No Jumper - The Big Body Bes Interview (RARE)

Episode Date: August 14, 2020

Big Body Bes is a rare breed! Find out why in this exclusive interview with Adam22, where he talks about his new projects, upcoming documentary, F** That's Delicious, Bronson, Papoose, Taxston, Griselda, Sheek Louch, Sean Price, Marty Jannetty and more! ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Officially the coolest podcast on the world because today we're sitting down with the one and only. Body! What's going on with shaking. How you feeling? Feeling wonderful. Sometimes I just don't know. But right now I'm just, you know, a lot of things on the way.

Album is ready. Just finished up a new season. A lot of thoughts on the mind, man. Let's speak, though. Let's speak. Good to be here, though. You talk like a fucking mob deep inner. like same pacing and like energy right there I like that you know what it is with me like

I don't just speak to just say words right I feel like every time I speak it has to mean something either it has to be some sort of information some sort of detail or some sort of you know key to something like I don't want to just hear it to say things that don't mean nothing I got to be passionate about everything I do right you know like whether it's perfecting something or making music or just trying to give wisdom to somebody because you don't want to want to just sound good a sound good, you know, it's got to be something, you know. It's got to be something behind it. The foundation got to be strong.

And these days, it's like so much pressure for people to just come constantly with just nothing. But you're the one to sit back and observe and build. Everybody wants to sit and sound like they got some prolific shit to say now because, yo, man, you know, I'm famous. So I just feel like I know the life. No, you don't know life. You know what I'm saying?

You just speak in life from your point of view. I speak it from so many because, you know what I mean? like there's so many ways of my mind you know what I mean like when I speak for somebody I speak for like 86 different people at one time uh-huh because that's just how I'm like you know like to break it down in one way like my mind is not just one way you can't just be like your body man give me a description of body it's not just one way to describe me you know what I'm saying it might take you know 13 loose leaves you know that's just how it goes man prison loose loose.

Sometimes. Institutions, group holes. We love a good residential drug program. Right. You've been locked up since the last time we spoke for you? Any altercations with the law?

No, you're totally clean. Now my brother clean. Wow. Clean, but not just clean, but also moving positive. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just want to, I always wanted to state that

some people get the wrong idea about me. They feel like, you know, they see parts of me on the show or they see peace of me. you know, sometimes it's like, you don't see all of me. Right. Because they're not always going to show you me saying some real positive things, you know? Right.

Sometimes they will. But sometimes they feel like, you know, it's better to see me saying some negative shit or what's perceived as negative. Because me, I don't feel like, you know, like certain things is like way of life. You know, man created law. You feel me? So it's like when somebody says, yo, you just broke the law. Well, what the world did he break?

And it's like, yo, he did some, you know, whatever, some inside trading. he did some crazy that she doesn't say that in the Bible the Quran he's a man-made things you feel me right so it's like yo I believe in the laws of the land also you know I'm saying like way of life you know it's like you know things are from my what's that shit cool and what's that thing cool we need laws though don't you know what I'm saying you do we got it right but my thing is like we also need understanding we need compassion right we can't just be like yo listen man we're gonna label this person one way like let's just say one person like you know got called for a burglary. Is he forever

a burglar? No. You know what I'm saying? Is that his label forever? Is that you know what I'm saying? Somebody might have made three in the morning hand exchanges, you know? With an eye patch with a good jacket on. Does that mean he's labeled that man forever? You feel like the people only want one thing from you because they've only gotten one thing from you? Or do you feel like

your audience out there is open-minded about what you're bringing to the table? You said that you're rapping now, too. Things are changing. Yeah, but you She's like, my thing is this, I've been doing music. But it's like, when I came on, my approach and my style, people didn't know what to call it. At first, they were like, oh, he's talking shit on the record. Or he's just talking. Or, yo, some people clicked with it.

Like, this is a flow. Right. But I didn't want to come basic. Like, I didn't want to just come out, you know, and jump on my man's tracks and just come out, like, regular and just be, you know, get overlooked. I wanted to come out, like, unique, you know, my way. And I know how I got a powerful voice. Like, I know when I speak, people listen. You know what I'm saying?

Like, my thing with me is, like, I don't always, like, lay out all the details. Like, I'm not going to give you the whole blueprint. Like, yo, I do this. I do this. Oh, I came up with this and this is my, you know. I just do what I do. If you know, you know, you know. You know what I'm saying?

There's a reason why I'm around a lot of things, you know what I'm saying? I didn't just wake up into this shit. You feel me? Like, I'm not connected with no music industry. I don't got nobody. You know what I'm saying? Like, wasn't like people got, you know, people in the game and it's like, yo, this is the alley-oop, you know?

What was the conversation the first time Bronson told you to get on a record with him? First time was on a doctor-lector. We was just there. Fabulous project. God, I gotta go back to that. That was when I first got into him. I saw the video of him throwing the girl in the trunk and I'm like, oh, shit. I got crazy.

Who is this guy? Right. He did it with like really good, like, he did it with good posture, good technique. A lot of guys couldn't get away with throwing a girl in the trunk in a music video. Because again, he did it with. compassion and he did it with charisma even if it comes off to some as rough it's with love you know what saying right some people just love rough a rough neck you feel like a rough neck is how you describe yourself a rough neck his gender he's feeling out of his driver's license for me check gender

rough neck other rough neck shoulders yeah uh body man body just ad lib in your interview Yeah, that's fire Doing adlibs in an interview Oh yeah I should actually go through And that's what I'm saying Go back But I gotta do it like a drill rapper

And have the adlaves be as loud As the lyrics Yeah, I want to talk about you for a second Oh God, here we go Nah, for real I really go Because you know I always like Like not research

But like I see you know I watch You know before I come on Like I seen you up on shit early I see you put a lot of people On and show love to the youngest man I respect that

It's kind of my whole thing No Entry point into the game Yeah but you don't just I've seen people on your show before they're really popping, you know? Like when you just know they got it up, you know, like they're like, all right, come on,

you know what I'm saying? Like, you don't got a lot of people that just, you know, it's like a bandwagon shit. But think about it, you got like, okay, top hip hop commentators. People like Joe Budin and, you know, these radio guys, they all have like a pretty conventional path. I mean, not that being a rapper

and then becoming a podcaster is conventional, but, you know, it makes sense. For me, it's like, how the fuck do you go from being like a BMX guy? to fucking interview all these rappers. It was really just, you know, I did two hours with MC8 the other day. But it all started from interviewing, like,

people that were just real, real underground. But you've done some ill interviews, though. I appreciate that. You do them like the way you want to do them. I don't like people who just, like, do the interviews, ask the questions that they know it's not going to get nobody upset. Right.

I mean, my whole thing is like this. It's like, any interview you do, you should know what's going on. Right. You should know where you're at, honestly. And especially if you talk about, talking that street shit you should really like if you've been through anything

interrogation or spoken anywhere where you know you should really watch your words you know and think before you speak it's not like we're here and you're like forcing me to answer in a second you know right i can hear you a question you know resate in my mind and then answer the way i want to answer it i don't have to be like you know think with emotion and just answer and then hit you back in eight hours like yo yo please don't put that out right you know what I'm saying like no. At the end of the day it's all about respect and people are not really going to respect you if you are asking questions that are just blatantly like trying to get them caught up. You know you got to be real like we don't people got to remember man like when you speak especially

when you speak in these podcasts or interviews or anything anywhere anybody could watch it. Anybody could listen it's like when you show you know on Instagram your money or guns and craziness and bazookas and, you know. Shut of Rondo. Yeah. That was fake though. That was a practice

bazooka missile launcher thing. But they had signs around the neighborhood trying to find him. Rondo's bazooka may have not been real, but he's doing real time. Right.

Like, you know what I mean? It's like I say, man, it's like, it's just crazy. Because all that shit right there is like is the pain. Like we don't really broadcast the pain part of it. It looks dope.

It's like when the Hennessy is hitting and those, you know, those perks is hitting. Or the Buffalo Trace. Yeah, the Buffalo Trace is hitting. Oh, that good, you know what? That good for a loco. O'n. Oh, when that K2 is hitting. Oh.

That good Myrtle and Broadway, 336 in the morning. You ever smoke Sharm? Nah. Oh, dust? Yeah. Yeah. I smoked dust three times in my life. What was the situation's like?

Oh, man. I smoked dust on like. You're like an original member of Wu-Tang. You ever did dust with Rizzo? Yeah, I was with Rizzo smoking dust on Newla. I don't even want to kick it with Rizza unless we could do some dust. Yeah, that's a fact. Shirm blunts.

If we can't smoke dust with Riza and buy gold on Canal Street, like I don't really want to do that. That's a real Rizzo. I don't want to talk about life and shit like, no, I do, but under the influence of Shurn. I want to talk about life, but I also don't want to wear like karate silk three in the morning. I want to do what I want.

Nah, I mean, he loves a good silk. Right. No, I'm wrong with that. What would you say if you met Trump? If I met Trump? If you met Trump, you'd walk out with Trump, you got a couple minutes with him at the bodega. what kind of conversation you're going to engage him in?

Nah, the first thing, I would just spit on the floor and then just look at them up and down and then I would tell them straight up like, you know, what you're claiming? Where you from? You know what I mean? It's like I'm from here. Yo, who brought you home?

It's just weird. To a lot of people, that's a New Yorker. That's a New Yorker. That's a New Yorker. And I would just be like, you know, basic shit. Like, yo, what you get your weed from? You know, when you get your shapeups, and why you mad pussy.

And then, like, I really don't have much to say, you know what I mean? We're joking around right now. Leave TikTok alone. Yeah, leave TikTok alone, man. Leave people alone, man. Just leave the whole life alone. But you should just leave life alone, man. That's a New Yorker right there.

Some people ain't good at life. You and him are not, like, I'm not saying you're like him, but the energy that you guys have, like, I feel like you'll still be going out of Trump-like rate when you're 70, because that's one thing that amazes me about him. He's seven to me, and he's going. You know what I mean? It's not even that he is who he is and saying what he's saying because we all We've been known how people like him think you know what I'm saying certain types of people, you know

So it's like when you hearing this is like it's crazy but the shit that makes me crazy and like fucked up It's like yo how is this shit being okay is being let let go Like nobody's just saying no right like yo, nah this this can't happen you know that's scary It ain't like him Because you're gonna tell me all the past presidents didn't share some thoughts that he shares. Come on, they just didn't, you know, they didn't project that.

You know what time it is, man. He states his mind. That's one thing about him. But the end of the day, it's shit is dangerous, man. It's poisonous, you know? There's a tweet I'm looking for right now. Something that he said, no, of his that,

I'm not sure if I'm able to find it right away. It was like the craziest thing I ever seen him say, basically saying, like, America, you won't have to worry about low-income, people moving into your areas or whatever. Like it was the craziest most racist thing that I think I had ever seen him stay say publicly.

Basically just like assuring more well-off people that they won't have to worry about low-income people moving into their areas. And it was just somebody should look it up and actually read this tweet, but it was sad. I could not believe my eyes when I read it. Yeah, because you're seeing that and you're like,

yo, how come this shit ain't getting people? like, you know, like pro. How come people ain't flipping out? Because you got to also remember when you labeling people low income, if you go into a neighborhood that's considered low income because I don't even know

that's bullshit. When you say like, this is a low income neighbor, you move in rich high income people, you're making it low income. You understand? Some people have been there was ready middle class.

But if you raise the rent, double, triple, and then you raise the residents that come in there with a higher salary, of course you just made them lower income. You know what I'm saying? You create incomes. You create levels.

How has gentification changed like, you know, the area you grew up in. It has great. You witnessed it. Well, I tell you like this. In the Bronx, not as much, though. Right. Where I grew up in the Bronx, no. Like, on Davidson Avenue, like, it's still wild.

You know, people still throwing shit off the roof. It's three in the morning situations. That's just what that is, you know. I think, like, the Bronx is, like, ungenitrifiable, you know? They're out there pockets, you know, like three, people but they'll run off the train right into the building at night like they'll go upstairs and stiff their coke with their eyes closed by themselves you know what I mean like they're not gonna be hanging out in the corner right so there's just like I no doubt you know like they

might seem at the store but like in Brooklyn yeah they out there now like in East New York they're moving you just see like three in the morning like 13 German people walking it's like oh shit German people yeah just just random speaking German just moved into the neighborhood. Yeah, but they're doing anything. They ain't even fucking with nobody. Right. My thing is this. It's not really about, like, who's moving in and who lives there. It's about who's

blending in and who's not making the issue. If you come in, who's to say, yo, where you're from? You know, like, what's your culture, which nationality, what race? You know, like, nobody's doing that at the border, you know what I'm saying? Right. But we just try to say, like, don't come in somewhere and try to change what's already good. Right. You know, you know what I'm trying to say?

That's the stuff that really boils my blood when you hear about the people moving to certain areas in Brooklyn. They call the cops and neighbors. They do everything. They complain about the fucking noise from people who've been playing music. But they'll say what's up to you and then call the cops on you. I know what time it is.

They make sure you're home. So they're like, oh, they just say, now they call the cops. Then they're going to say, I'm not sure, but I might have seen a gun. I've seen some, come on. Right. That's how it goes.

Right. But my thing is this, man, you just got to be aware. Once you got the knowledge and you know what's going on around you, you don't have to accept it, but at least you know you're aware. You're not surprised, you know?

you're not going to get caught up you can't slip if you always got your Tims on you know what I'm saying some real New York advice right there It's true It's like even Like you know It doesn't really matter where I'm at

Or what part of life I'm in right now You know what I'm saying It's always going to be The same morals The same foundation Still getting some pussy with your Tims on Always Always because

Yo it's crazy It's just like You know I could be in France I could be in Belgium, Morocco, Pelham Parkway. I'm always going to be somewhere, you know, like the same body. I have to, man. I got to move the same.

Now, my thing is this. Some people are just like, you know, they get a little bit of fame or some, you know, success, and they just, they changes them. It's like we call that like lawsuit money in the hood. Like, yeah, you got bread, but we don't really respect it. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, he got some lawsuit or got, you know, some left over some money from his moms or something. You know, we don't disrespect it and hate on it, but we don't really respect the shit.

Like, you know, it's not the same is when you earned it. You sweat it for it. You risked yourself for it. So it's like, you know, it's a little bit of both sides, you see. It's like people want to be one foot in, one foot out. Me, my mind is gone. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've been too long.

I'm still out there. I'm still just, and when I say out there, I just mean like my service. I'm in the same neighborhood. I've been had bread. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've been successful. Like, music didn't make me successful. You know what I'm saying?

It's like, I always been known for going to get minds. Like, you know, like everything you hear me say, it comes from stories, it comes from truth, you know? And that's just what it is. Like, you see me, I've been out for a mad long. I've been all over.

I've talked crazy. I am the way I am, you know? I've been all over. Ain't nobody going to call me out. I always give you details where I'm from. I don't talk like these rappers that come up here. and give you these fucking, oh, I'm from all over.

But where are you from? I'm the whole city. I represent New York as a whole. Oh, I'm from here. No, I can't give you detail. You want to know why I'm from? Right now I got a documentary coming out. I'm also doing some shit with complex, like a day in the life.

But I'm doing like a week in the life. I'm going to show you, for real, you know? Because I love giving people the details. I don't like people who speak indirect. You know what I'm saying? Right. I want to show you. Like what made me.

Yeah, the corners, like the actual places that define me. Big Body Best. Because that's not like a name I created for the industry. That's who I was before this. You know, I came in his body. That's just who I am. There's a reason why, like, everything, because if anybody could just come on the track and talk some shit.

Yeah. But is it really verifiable? There's something about that New York experience that keeps you... It just is, man. I'm telling me. It's my heart. Like, I speak with pain in my heart. Even when I'm speaking with comedy, like, it's pain in there.

You know what I mean? Like, but there's just... There's also righteousness. Like, I speak like a warrior. You know what I'm saying? even this like my whole thing is like I don't mind speaking on my losses because my losses are what made me a fucking winner you know what I mean That's the truth like these aren't just things I say to sound ill or speaking like that's how I think Like I think in statements, you know what I'm saying like my mind is like that

That's just how I always been like it's like a thing like I don't know it's like a lot of like Albanians speak like that You know I mean they always speak like with wisdom It comes from like the old times you know I mean like the mountains like everybody would have to like because you know you live enough off the land, you know what I'm saying? Some people are just more like untouched by society, you know? So you got to have the wisdom, especially when you come from like a warrior land. You know, you've got to always watch your back, you know from being invaded, you know what I mean? So it's like history repeats itself. It's like, you know how you might be from a land of war, you know what I'm saying? You used to people invading your land, the enemy coming. It's the same

thing in the hood. You're watching out for the Ds jumping out. That's the enemy. And then you run in, you know, they got their gun. You might have something sharp on you. and you go into war. Toothbrush. Yeah. Trust me, I go to war with anything. And I say go to war, I just mean defend myself and defend my jewelry. I'm not saying, like, to start primes.

See, people getting confused. It's like, if you see me in the heights somewhere uptown and I'm in a, you know, like in a lobby 86 deep and nobody's speaking English, that's not because, like, you know, something negative is going on. That's because I fell in love with leather and gold. You understand what I'm trying to say?

it's because AMG rims aren't cheap. This is why I try to tell you, like it's not about material things, but it's about the things that bring you joy. You understand? Like, Leathers on Fordham Road bring me joy. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just what it is.

Like, you know, like going to the club and, you know, like discussing matters, you know what I mean? And just, you know, being around people or if I'm just on the block somewhere in a beach chair, you know, and we're just conversating, like, it doesn't have to be, extravagant shit. It's just about who I'm with, you know, the time

we haven't. But sometimes it is fly shit, but sometimes it could just be in the neighborhood making a barbecue with somebody, you know? Right. Or even getting into a brawl, you know, with some people, you know, it lets you know you still here. You know, because I like people to know that I'm still touchable.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't got, what you think? I'm in the bodyguards or some shit. You see I came Dolo? Why the fuck would I need a bodyguard? When I looked just like the motherfucking bodyguard. And that's real shit. If you're scared to move alone, then brother, you're just scared to live. Like, I told people in the beginning, man, I'm down to die, but you're just scared to live. This is the problem.

Like, you're fearing something that's going to happen regardless, boy. Like, I know, it's like, it's like this, man. Like, you know, I've been, I've been like, you know, I always like, like jewelry and like flashy things since I was young. You know what I'm saying? but I see some people like they go on by these expensive watches and jewelry just to wear it like in Alpine New Jersey

in their mansion. Right. Or to lock themselves and go wear it in the woods. Like you're standing in the middle of the forest with a chain in the automa, you know? It's not really fun. Right. You know where you want to wear it at. There's no point to having it unless you're...

Because this is the truth. We want to be on the strip. You want to have expensive things in poor neighborhoods. Right. And we don't, see, I'm just saying it in a way, but it's the truth. Right. Because that's how you stick out.

It's like when I go and where, like, if I go throw on a crazy chain and my watches and brings, and I go to Park Avenue, I go, like, somewhere like, they're laughing at you. Like, the fuck is what this guy. Like, but when I go up town, it's love, yo, it's fucking, oh shit. You feel me? Right. It's a sense of, like, belonging. It's a sense of outdoing somebody.

That's the problem, you know? Sometimes we get caught up in that. Right. Like we're trying to outdo our brothers and sisters like, yo, bro, you know, like you're fucked up, but I'm not. It's like, you know? How do you draw that line between just stunting, reasonably? But that's it, because there's a way to stunting enjoy things. Like, I can have something on, but I don't have to speak about it.

Do I have to literally make a whole rant about what I have on? Or can I just have it? Like, if my girl is bad and she's beautiful, do I got to keep telling people? Or can she just be beautiful and let her look speak? or let her soul speak you feel me sometimes like people just got to like let things be appreciated it's like me you don't see me jumping up around you don't see me like trying to put yo hit me up I'm doing verses for $86 or $542 a hook right like I'm not hating it that's what you got to do listen I know there's no shows right now the merch ain't moving I know I understand

the whole tough guy shit didn't work out so now you're trying to become an activist. I understand. There's a lot. I know. I see the routines. I'm not mad. You know, cool. Sell your t-shirt, sell your hoodie and then use that money to get high. Use that money to not take care of your kids. Listen, I mean, this is like hip-hop is a huge fucking moneymaker. We got to stop bullshit. But me, I mean, I just have like some self-respect. I'll sell it when I want to sell. I'll put out what I want. I don't sell versus. Never. I turn down more money than almost anybody in this game that's up and coming.

Guarantee. I don't care. I turned down three shows at Vice. I turned down shows at Complex. I fuck with them. I don't got no bad blow with them because I was out of my mind for about 30 minutes. You know what I mean? When I was on the phone and I was like doing business with people, it was like my mind was still

the same way like I'm on the corner. See, my whole thing was I'm trying to apply 100% street mentality to an industry. Whereas I'm supposed to just be applying a small percentage of it. The morals and the foundation of the street should always be applied to the game.

But me, I'm just trying to move 100% fast. I want it this way. I want my money now. I want this much. You know what I mean? It's like, damn. Ain't as much to mention with me. It's like they, you know,

the way like the industry embrace me with like the companies was kind of like iffy, you know? They was trying to say for a while that I was difficult to work with. That's that word. do, you know? That's the phrase, difficult. When you want your money and you don't want to do things for free and you

want to actually own your own shit, now I'm difficult. It's like the man with too much wisdom. He's crazy. You know, that's the easy label. Yo, he's just crazy. Because crazy cancels out everything. Everything's saying you're saying is canceled out when you label crazy. Because crazy's like, yo, son, everything he's doing is not right.

Yo, it's out of it because he knows he's not right. But the thing is, is that everybody's a content creator now, but it's viewed as this, like, prestigious thing to go and work for a company. Whereas, like, creating your own content. Some people might look down at that as, like, a basic thing. But in reality, I mean, to really, like, invest and create something as a content creator and then to have a fucking monolithic corporation own it.

You read about that. That's a depressing thought. See, one thing you're saying is genius because created contact. Right. I kept waiting for people to come with the opportunity for me and come with their money their budgets. Whereas I'm like, yo, I'm the motherfucking product. You know, let me just apply the things I know from the street trade or, you know, after our situations. Let me apply that to what I want to do here. I'm the product. Let me market myself, you know, like, I'm just like,

I'm the product. I'm just going to repitch myself. So instead of looking for somebody to put the bread up, I'm just going to come along and I'm just going to come out my own pocket, film things. Like now I got my own YouTube channel The big, um, big body best show You just look up big body best show on YouTube That's it right there I got my own camera guys I got videos coming

I got the album done You know now I'm getting the offers Now everything is rolling But my whole thing was like I was hard to get in contact with I would just like I had my foot in the water You know Like I didn't want to jump in But now I'm in there like fuck it

I'm swimming in this shit now Because my thing is like I don't want to do anything half-ass you feel me like be like one of the motives like damn man you could have had this you know then I got people like um like alchemist like Harry fraud you know what I'm saying like the best these is the best in the game right here you know what I'm saying like they reaching out to me non-stop putting the pressure on you know they're pressuring you to go in with the music all the time all the time and you know like I got to keep it real like like one thing about them is like

they connecters like those brothers right there like Harry fraud the alchemist like they're not just trying to, you know, get something out of you. They really, they're connectors. Like, fraud them brought me everywhere. You know what I mean? Like, you know, fraud connected me with French. You know what I mean? Like, we got tracks.

Like, we got fire. You know what I mean? Like, he connected me with a lot of people. He don't give me them little throwaway beats, you feel me? He gives me them joints. He gives me the movie time beats, you know? That showtime shit, you know what I'm saying? So you know what time it is.

Like, when you hear that La Musiqqa, you know what time it is. And then Al gives me them joints. You know, he gives me that 98. ALC shit you know like he gives me what I want and it's like that it's because I don't just like work with these brothers like I got relationships with them you know like I mean for we'll go on a vacate somewhere like you know we jumping out the jet we whaling you know like we might be somewhere shopping for used infinity rims together yeah it's like that's like that's like that's how shit

real shit you know what I'm saying like he might buy a salvage car off my man flaco or something that type of shit we do but either way it's my I don't just say that shit to you know it lost meaning when people lost meeting to the word brother you know Because who are they you know these are dudes that check in on me make sure They make sure you know what I mean like yo body you good now some we gonna do this now I'm gonna organize your shit Yo I'm mixing it you be procrastinating that's my thing I always had mad opportunities mad things That's one thing tax always told me man. You know free my brother tax stone Free tax stone he be home soon and like it or not

he's coming home and that's just it you know that's a huge hole in the hip hop landscape but i think it was like a real effort to sort of write him out of the history oh yeah 100% independent content creators and shit like he's he's an incredibly important moment in hip hop history when he made the streets fuck with podcasts to a level that they had not previously he's one of the most important people the last 20 years in the hip hop industry i stand by that and this isn't like yo because that's my brother and I'm here to sound good or I want to just big him up. No, this is the truth.

You never seen anybody like him. Never. Get that far in the game. Never. And I knew he got it. He's from East New York, man. East New York don't raise no cowards, bro. Trust me.

So I'm like, yo, listen, my man is built for this. And not to mention all the youth that he put on. All the people, all the shit that he'd been predicted. You know, I'm like, I'll tell you a story, man. Like, I did some shit. We did an episode, you know what I mean? Like, for the, for the, for the vice show, a block party.

You know, I came around the block. We did a big block party, so I brought Vice through. But when we did it, we used some songs in there. We used the computer song. They used it whatever, you know. Vice couldn't clear it because, you know, when like a 46-year-old hipster, you know, that's coked out of his face, calls for, you know, Bobby Schmerding, these dudes to clear son, they tell me to go fuck themselves, you know.

But when I, and it was like, oh, we can't clear it. We can't use the scene. and the scene was too fire. So I said, no, no, no. Boom, tax. In six minutes, they sent over the email to Vice, cleared it. They didn't want a dollar.

Not a dollar, you know? Use everything full, you know? Come on, man. That's a beautiful thing. Nah, just the point, though. My man used to pull up on me two in the morning. He used to pull up on the block, come to Fulton and jump out on me

and be like, yo, what you're doing, bro? You wild. Yo, man, you got to do this. Yo, man, we got to do this, man. got too much talent, yo, this and that. Yo, we was going to do a morning show me and my role. Yeah, we had a morning show set up. A radio station

type thing? Yeah. It was going to be me, him and a young lady. It was going to be some wild things going on. Wow. That's why I say like, you know, like, he was reaching out to me, but he didn't need me. Like, he's successful already. His podcast was popping. He already had 18 situations

going on in the industry, you know what I'm saying? You know who we was rubbing shoulders with? You know what I'm saying? It's not a joke. It's not like a conspiracy. My man built his shit. So it's just like for him to reach out to me during all his shit, even during his drama to still be like, yo, body, what's body

doing? Yo, nah, I'm going to make sure he gets on. I'm going to make sure I'll help him. He don't need to do that shit. So things like that just make me like, you know what I mean? Like, these are people you got to keep with you forever. You know what I mean? Like, I don't care if the whole world thinks you wrong. You always write to me.

That's just how I got to be, man. Where's your loyalty? Where's your morals, man. Like, really, wait, like, just show me, like, show me who knows you, like, you know, who can vouch what you're talking about, man? You see me when I come out and I talk crazy and I say wild things. Like, there's nobody that's saying, yo, he's wild and he's lying.

You know where I'm from. There's no lying. There's no faking out there, bro. I'm not here to say, you know, like, yeah, I wild out on some IG shit and we talk around a lot. You see me on the show smoking and saying my little jokes here and there, but you know what time it is. If you read between the lines, you really know what time it is. It's not a game at all. On any level, it's not a game.

You see what's going on. There's people in prison. There's people dead in the streets. There's a lot going on. We just see bits and pieces like what we want to see and what people put out there. You know, you just see what the blogs put or what double Excel reports.

You don't really know what goes on. You don't know between the scenes what goes on and who's putting in work and who's dying behind this shit. You see the rap is doing their thing, but you don't know who died. behind that rapist chain and who's putting in work and you don't know see like and also i'm gonna say this too man you should really think about who you interview man in general anybody not you think about who you interview and think about the interviews you're doing man who you speaking about man

because a lot of people man they might not be doing a lot of interviews no more man the facial features ain't looking right bro be careful man it's a small city man some people that act tough on camera and their videos, they're really tough, man. I swear to you, bro. They're not just joking. They're really with the shits, man. They don't know no better.

They just came on rapping, but they're not rappers, man. I'm just saying that. This is a hustle to some people. This is one more ladder to climb. Don't start labeling people, rappers and industry people. Be easy, man.

This is like, it's like I always say, man, like we love to, like, you know, people as well I say, weed is like as a market as a fan you know you love this real shit you love that gangster shit you know when that certain beat comes on and the weed is lit the henny's flowing the adrenaline that shit sounds ill you know you want to make them gun signs with your fingers i know and you might even want to throw a little gang sign up but nobody's looking i know you you you hype

it feels good you want to be part of that shit i know but then it's like then comes reality man when you get your face sliced open i mean And then your girls getting beat up on Fulton Mall. I mean, like, this is not life. You know, your sneakers are taken. You know, somebody's trying your chain on. It doesn't speak English. I mean, it looks like a scene from City of God.

Like, you know, like, this is not the life you want. Right. I don't want that. Do you want that? No. No. So what I'm saying is why don't we just focus on us? You got something to sell?

Talk about it. You know what I'm saying? Like, project yourself why do a whole interview about somebody else you know and like we also do this thing where it's like these street dudes who get into the industry

say he's like you know I'm in the industry now bro you know I'm just trying to be a reporter I'm just trying to be a rapper I'm just trying to be a break dancer it's like you could do that you know what I'm saying but where's the morals man

be easy brother remember man that shit doesn't protect you there's no fucking industry bulletproof vest like there's no like bubble you know what I'm saying we're gonna be at these parties man everybody this quarantine ain't forever

and I know you know what it is you can see a lot of people a lot of these imitation street rappers and fake dudes that they're bugging out on quarantine they're going on IG Live and going through crazy outburst because I know you never did time before see I can tell you've never been

confined to a room you know I know I can tell because your brain's going crazy after a month so I see it I see a character coming out like I see it in bits and pieces all I got to do is going like look like like my IG like what they call I'm like an IG creep but I don't got no I don't got no fake page it's me you see me on mad people's pages looking at they shit

because I'm seeing what's up I'm seeing my surroundings I'm studying my surroundings you see me like yo body viewed my video or something But he don't say, nah, I don't like you. I'm just watching what you're doing. Right. I'm making sure. You know what I mean? How you're moving?

I'm just seeing you already. I'm disgusted with you. You're thinking with emotion. Dude just like 39 years old doing teenage drugs. Like ecstasy, son? Who's on the ecstasy? A lot of emotional rappers. There's more than one.

See, I don't want to see, when I speak like this, I'm not speaking indirects. I don't want you to feel like, yo, he's not saying names. For me to say a name is to put somebody's name attached to me and I'm not doing that. Nobody's going to ride my wave. You're never going to, all my interviews

is better than all your albums. My interviews are classics. You can't come on these interviews, you know? You can't be attached to me ever. If I, like this is right now, like there's certain rappers I don't fuck with. There might be a time where we see each other and, you know, you know, yeah. Like that.

No, I'm just being one of these. You see anybody you don't like it rolling loud? And what's that like? Like, I really see nobody I didn't like. You know what I mean? Because if I would have seen somebody in light, then we would have seen each other. We would have did things we didn't like. It's like, my thing is like, yo, everything has a time in place, man.

You saw how many cops was that rolling loud? Yeah. How crazy was it? Gang unit everywhere. Hip hop cops, gang unit, task force was everywhere. So it's like, yo, what you're going to do? You saw they didn't even let certain dudes go on. That's true.

What happened, right? Yeah. Don Q, all them dudes, they didn't let them go on. Castanova, they didn't have to go on. Pop smoke. Pop smoke. Hot is in the summer. Come on.

Brooklyn got it right now. You heard it a hundred time. all day, but he wasn't there. Yeah, but you knew that, though. You know how the game goes. How's it feel seeing New York lose clearly, you know, the biggest up-and-coming rapper in quite some time and seeing him taking like that? He was the sound of the city for a couple of years there.

You talk about six-nine? No, I'm talking about Pop Smoke. I don't know what I thought about it. I didn't mean what you was saying. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think said let down. No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about, yeah, we can't cut that.

Yeah, cut that. That shit, you got any weird. Go ever bring that man. No, I'm talking about losing pop smoke. Oh, God bless the day, man. Huge blow for the city. I mean, there was a good... Huge blow for the city.

Huge blow for rap. Huge blow for rap. Huge blow for life. That was a huge blow to life. You ever get to tap in with him? Huh? You ever met? Nah, nah.

Knew some mutual people, and you know what I mean? New people from his area. You know, a lot of people from Karnasi. You know, East New York, Karnasi, same area. Borderline, you know? Flatlands, all of that. But the situation where him was like... Like again, like he just came through and swept.

And it was like, you know, on fire, you know? And it was just like, damn. Like, you've seen the growth and you've seen the whole movement. And he was so out there with it, you know? But it was just fire because it was young. Like, people forget they see him. They're like, yo, you know, he was 19 popping. Like, that's fucking young, son.

The sound of the fucking city. Everywhere you went, there's all you can hear. You see how he spoke? Everything you could tell he said, he thought before he spoke. Like, he just had too much wisdom. Too much wisdom and everything he said meant something. It wasn't just to be heard. Yo, I just want to get some air time.

Nah, he made sure. See, people like this, these are like, some people call them trend centers. I call them like, these are like life lessons. These are like the teachers of life. You know what I mean? Like, we label people rappers and like industry people and you feel like you can't learn something.

Like, it could be anybody. You could learn something from the maintenance man. You know what I'm saying? We just keep putting labels on somebody. It's like when somebody got a job, and we'd be like, oh, he's a working man, you know what I'm saying? Like, you don't know what that man do. That's just something he got on paper.

I don't label nobody. Like, you don't know what you're going to miss out on. Labeling somebody is like being on something like prejudice shit or racist. You just don't label that man that whole way of stereotype, you know what I'm saying? You don't know what he's about. You don't know nothing, man. I just, I take life one day at a time. You know what I'm saying?

Like, my whole thing is like, like, sometimes my mind races because I got like so many thoughts, you know what I'm saying? Instead of me just speaking everything and not making sense, I'd rather just fall back and think what I want to say. But like when I go into the booth or I do like a song or a verse, like it's just off. I just go off the top. Because I feel like when you pre-write something, for me at least, it doesn't have the same emotion effect.

When I go in there and I'm feeling a certain way and I got that beat, I'm just in there. I'm in my zone. It's just like it comes out the way it comes out. And there is no like, you know, retakes or no, you know, that's it, one take. So it just works out. Like even if I got to chop some stuff out at the end of sun, but nah, that's it, man.

I just like being me, man. So far it's work well. Right. You see the numbers. You see what I'm doing. I know that's just about that. But it's good to know that things are not just going off, you know? They're not just going over people's heads.

Like, people see it like, you know. I've built myself as a brand. Now it's time to really just, you know, go all the way out. The album is ready. I got three videos down. Documentary is halfway done. And so are you rapping more than you have in the past? Yeah, I actually got like song formats.

I got hooks, you know, like flows and all that bars and everything. But then I have my own style. Like I'll have a hook that I'll have what might come off like a spoken word, but it's in a bar form. You understand? Right. It's still gonna flow on beat. Like even when I speak, I speak on beat. You understand?

So it's like, I can't describe it. Everything I do is to a beat. Right. Walk to a beat. You know, like everything to the beat. So it's like, you know, even when you fight, you fight to a beat. So it's like everything is, you know? You know what I'm saying?

Life, you know, like, you know, everything. Just life is like, you know, the beat of life, man. That's it. That's real. So what you smoke is on right there? There's some fire, fire, Skywalker, OG. Where's that fucking macaroni and cheese ass wax that you hadn't here before? Oh, that's that, yeah, yeah.

I really thought it was macaroni and cheese. There was so much of it. like some fucking soft cookup. We're waiting for like 30 grams to dry. When's the last time you cook crack? Yo. I crack? Man, you just got to reword things, man.

I figured it was probably a while ago, right? I'd be over the jurisdiction things, you know what I'm saying? I want to hear about the young year best. You want to hear about the Knights in Allentown? PA, you want to hear about Knights in Bethlehem? I want to see how much. You want to hear about Choochoo. Damn, you was in Bethlehem.

Three for 50, man. I want to see how much. Much of this goes into a blunt too. This shit is huge. This shit is heavy. That's that jet fuel, indoor cake batter. That's that good though. You lace that on the Dutch.

That's like the fuel, you know? It's like hash, you know? You lace little hash in your weed. Yeah, yeah. Because people see that and they'll be like, yo, I'm like, son, that's just THC. Right. But they see it like that.

It's like, nah, it's filtered, you know what I'm saying? I mean, you come to Caldy, you learn shit. You guys kind of got known for that. Being the dab guys, the wax guys, the fucking, you, you out let's talk about when you were living in Brooklyn oh let me some stories dirty as fuck every day

see you was living in Brooklyn when it was Brooklyn you wasn't running the fat you wasn't in there just following people you was doing your thing 2005 2006 when I moved there you had a reason to be there when I look at it like I was out riding bikes every fucking day dirty as hell not knowing where to go I'll go to the local bar

hook up with some girl that I met off fucking my space or whatever for the most part bro I was really riding bikes with grimy ass kids Like everybody I was hanging out with was, you know, either like in high school, in college. Like I was just riding bikes every fucking day. Dirty as fuck. Filming sitting around drinking four locos.

Smoking other people's weed at the fucking Brooklyn banks. Living your life. Riding. Going to crazy raves and Bushwick. Riding seven miles to go ride a ledge in Uptown. Doing fake Molly. Get kicked out right away. Oh man, definitely.

Definitely. No, I remember like the first time I ever did Coke. Oh, my. Brooklyn. That was a bad. That was a bad phase, but... It was a bad phase. It was a rough...

A lot of appliances got sold on Ocean Avenue 3 in the morning. Nah, no, no, no. I got bad tickets. I had it right there on Bedford and Atlantic in front of the shelter with a microwave?

I still got Warranted, New York for riding bikes on the sidewalk. I don't know. I got eye cards, bad places. Yeah? When's the last time you hopped the turnstow? The house time I hopped the turnstile was probably like 2003.

For damn, really? definitely hopped it with like a scale in like a like a two three ounces of haze in my pocket wow because i used to always do hot boy shit just hop to train for no reason like you got plenty of money i just don't want to do it i was like you know it's like a come-up thing it's like it's like going to a store and like knowing you could steal some shit and you got more than enough money to buy it right but you still took it because you can't deny a come-up you still take a opportunity yeah yeah i mean if i had to i got too much respect for the bodega owner no i won't tibre you don't see

I'll take a snickers, but I won't take it from the bodega. I go to Pathmark. I got somewhere stop one. You did pull up with that good CVS bag. Yeah, I always got a good pharmacy bag, man. Keep a real. You got to always have at least two prescriptions on you for something. I used to be scamming at the Dwayne Reed.

It was easy as fuck out there. We'd be in cartons of cigarettes and selling them and shit. He liked that, man. I was scamming in 2003. I just want to throw that out there. 2003? Yeah. So it's kind of crazy to see.

I came up with a boosting. My first, my first real, like, crazy money shit was boosting. But, like, we took it to a different level. When I say boosting, I mean racking, getting money, catching racks. Like, this was, like, for heavy shit. But what? Like, department stores? Yeah, we were doing department stores with Lizzie bags.

You know, that's with the tin foil and the electric tape. Right, right, right. You make those, you know, you tuck it all around, the property bag. You stole the stuff in there, you know, it doesn't go off and the detector. I used to hear about that a lot. Then I get the magnets. Like, we had all that. the little magnets to go back in the days

like destroying like video stores like out of state. We're doing crazy things, you know what I'm saying? I remember going out of state like for like six, seven days in a rental, going across the fucking country and coming back, loaded up with shit. That's just how it is, man. Like everything we do, man,

we do it big. Like I never had patience. Like I just never had patience to like slow investments, you know what I'm saying? Like I like everything fast, you know what I mean? But you look back at that time now and you feel like holy shit, why was I taking those kind of risk? I didn't need to do that. I did take a race, but then I needed it.

Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, he's like, in my mind, I needed it. Because it's not like, yo, I was like, yo, I'm feeding my family, you know, like, yo, I need this for steak money, you know what I'm saying? Like, nah, this is like, this is like out of necessity in your mind. Like, yo, I need this. We don't need that. We don't need 10 pairs of sneakers or flashy chains.

But in our mind, we do. You know what I'm saying? Right. So in my life is like extra things is like necessity to me. To me, a nice car is necessity. Or having a fat bankroll on your pocket. pocket or something nice. But to an average person, it's about having real estate or having, you know, like, investments. But it's like, it's just crazy. Because think about it, you know what

I'm saying? Like, even like, even in the Bronx, like, in Fordham, like, growing up, it's like, there's mad poverty out there. You know what I mean? It's mad. It's everything is like, you know, low income. There's a lot of crime, there's drugs. But then you go on the Fordham Road, there's fucking million dollar jewelry stores, you know, selling a $100,000 chain. You know what I'm saying? So it's like what's going on, you know? Selling designer clothing, you know? Because think about it.

All the fire stores that sell the fly gear you love is in the hood. Harlem, 125, Fordham Road, Nickabaca, you know, Graham, you know, like all the hoods, you know, the strips. Jamaica Avenue. I used to live right next to Nickerbocker there. There ain't shit over there. No, no, you know what I'm saying, though. There's a little shit there now? Oh, you definitely bought things on Troutman in Nickabaca.

No. Yeah, I did not. But I'm aware of exactly what you're talking about about some fittets. I'm about some Boston. Finns in New York back then, man. I never rocked. I'm a Yankees' Fittittitton. Just to my Bushwick thugs, man. Listen, yo, don't sleep, man.

They try to give Bushwick a bad name that is all gentrified. Bushwick is still live. I used to live right now by Maria Hernandez Park where there's mad heroin addicts around there and shit. They let them know. Bushwick is live, man. I don't know. Bushwick get money official. Mad shodies out there. It's just different now. I've been over there.

There's parts of it. Yeah, parts of it. It's a little different now, but. It's still parts of it alive. Like Bushwick Projects is live. All the projects is always going to be live. You can never leave New York. I'm gonna always have a residence there. Like, even if I go somewhere, I come to Cali every month. I'm out here 10 days a month, a week a month.

But I'm always in New York. Like, I'm always gonna be uptown. I gotta ride through the heights. I gotta go see my family in the Bronx. Like, I gotta be there with the family. I gotta, like, you know, that's where I shop. That's where I want to get my hair cut. That's where I want to, like,

that's where I want to conversate, get my hair braided. Fuck is you laughing. I mean. You know what I mean? That's where I do all my Telemundo interviews. You know, things like that. You know me from Spanish Myspace, man. Wow.

We does this, man. Once you get the YouTube channel, you got to get the Spanish translated version, too. I think they would appreciate that. Yo, I'm doing, listen, old jokes aside, though, I got a lot of Spanish music coming out.

Really? Yeah, I got me working with some big artists. I got some dudes from the heights and some big things. I'm doing some regiton records. I'm doing big things, man. Listen to me. I promise you.

I promise you I'm not gonna waste this opportunity. I'm giving you the best. I know everybody says these shit is, but you know what I do. You know I make movie music. You know that. You know it. You just feel it.

Like, I've never sold you nothing. I've never asked you to buy a shirt. I've never said, yo, buy this for me this CD. Everything I've given to you, I've given to you from my heart. You know what I'm saying? I'm not thirsty for your bread.

I'm giving you this album for free too. I'm not charging you. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I'm just letting you know, like everything I've built, you know, the fan base, the family. Because my fan base is my family. Like, they fuck with me for me. You know, it's genuine.

Because if you meet somebody and they're a body fan, you know it's real. Like, there's not like, oh, I'm just like them because, no, there's no reason that just, you know what I'm saying? I don't got no top 10 song. I don't got no dances out. You know what I'm saying? If you're a big body best fan and you quote me, you know it's real. It's for the culture. It really is.

It really is for the culture and for the well-aware. You know what I mean? But even if you're not well aware and you don't fuck with me, I'm going to show you a reason to fuck with me. I'm going to win you over. Because wisdom is addictive. Knowledge is addictive, you know what I'm saying?

It's true. And shout to my brother, knowledge too, man, produce. One of the best producers out there, man. He's out there wild and out right now, man. He's somewhere covered in gasoline walking around. I'm not in his business. How do you feel about you, Guelda fan? Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Definitely. I see that whole come up, yeah. That shit's crazy. They fire, man. It's been wild watching this all take place. You know what's fire about them too? Give it up to those brothers. As he breaks down a Dutch into a plastic bag from the CBS, the bodega.

Yeah, a little bit. I had a British, this is a real New York. You brought that from a New York Bordegger. Yeah, this is a Fulton and Van Sikland bodega bag. So I'm like, yo, listen, with them, they think is, you know, they did a dayway, you know, independent, doing it day way. Well, people try to label underground, but they still get in above ground money. Right.

Above ground situations. above ground attention. That's the way it's got to be, man. Now you see people want to ride that wave. It's always been Dutchess? Yeah, it's always not. Back in the days, it was Phillies, white owls. But I ain't go lie.

Everybody's smoking backwards now. I remember backwards was around in 97, 98. In Brooklyn, they were smoking backwards in 97. Right. But now it just, you know, you know how hip hop, read does shit. To where it's cycle. Always always coming.

I always remember, I used to buy my weed in the corner store. I like buying my weed in the building, corner store, a fake video store, record store. Like I used to buy my week. It's back in the day, so these corners ain't the same no more. But it used to be on picking and pine in East New York. Used to be a fake record store. You walk in there, there was no records.

There was a Jamaican guy standing there with a crazy hat on with mad posters and a hole in the ceiling. And you could either get your nicks or your doms. And it was that fat knick of that skunk, that iree, you know, that Arizona. Well, he was calling it skunk. It was just green. He was like, yo, yo, Dred. This shit got roach spraying it.

Yo, this shit got mad glass in it. He'd be like, yo, then that's a bonus. Wow. Be like that, man. What happened to all those spots? Shots to LP, Lyndon and Powell. The cops shut those spots down, like all the fucking shitty. Broadway and Van Buren.

We should smoke the Tyson. Remember that Tyson weed? No. It came in a cube. I remember the chocolate. Yeah, chocolate. It was like chocolate, but they used to compress it into a cube. Right.

And put some type of shit on it. And it was like a fake compressed weed. And they used to call it Tyson. That shit knocked you out like Tyson. I bought Knicks at the skate park. Oh yeah, Knicks. A $5 a bag of drug will always hold you down. It may not be impressive, but it's going to do something.

Yeah. You might wake up in the bookings with blood on your shirt. Let's talk about doing Shirm again. Shirm. Oh, yeah. Go back to the dust. Yeah, good. Let's go back to that time we was swimming.

Yeah, good. That time we was swimming down Lennox F. About to get a gallon of water. Oh, man. Shouts to 116 and Lex. I said that to Jadicus. If you know about that good water. I said to Jadikis, my dreads with that old school dust juice.

And Jadikis kind of like, he like told me like I was talking about dust juice. And I kind of like I knew that. But like obviously when I say it, I'm usually referring to actual gallon of water. Yeah. And that was kind of lost in translation. Yeah. That water is that dust. No, I know.

Oh, you know. But I want to break it down for some of the people. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Like dust, angel dust, shirm, embalming fluid. That's craziness. That's crazy man drug

I know people that lost their lives You know doing long stretches in the mountains for that shit You don't want to be in that shit I smoked that shit one time Because I didn't know better You know what I'm saying And I was with Dominican individuals You know?

So of course I made bad decisions So we out there whaling You know what I mean? I was on 8th Street You know 8th and 6th Ave Grace Papaya back in the days If you know about 8th Street You know Sunday afternoon

Back in the days on 8th and 6th All the big dogs used to park their big boy whips right there Sunday around 2 o'clock in the spring you just park your big boy whip stunt all your jewelry on it's like 03-02 era I could go for a fucking papaya spot burger right now

the burgers I don't even care about the juice bro who's have some shitty ass burgers I'd be fucking with you didn't time to order the fish at the steakhouse oh yeah all day all day why not let's live what else I was saying what was you talking about just doing dust you know yeah doing dust

that shit will have you crazy, man. I was in the city smoking dust. It took me six hours to move one block. Wow. I had to hold on to the wall. Then you come with the rage. Start thinking about things from the past. I don't know what's driving me to get drunk right now, but...

You're the type to smoke dust and want to start saving hip hop. I'm with that. That works for me. We got to save hip-hop, man. That's what we're doing out here. That's what we're doing. We got to save hip-hop. You got to save hip-hop. Hip-hop, don't you?

saving. That's the one weird thing about it. I'm in a lot of communities that there's a there's a tone of you got to support. You got to support. Hip hop never really felt like that. It's like this shit is lit enough that it's good on its own. You know what back in the day? Like all the 80s rappers were like, yo, we got to save hip hop when it was going into what they was calling gangster music. Right. But they just labeled it that because all the old school guys were talking street gangster stuff. They were just saying it in a different way. They were rapping like he-hah, he-ha, you know what I'm saying? But the flow's changed, but the shit is still

like street-related matters, you know what I'm saying? It's still shit that involves a community. I feel like a lot of people are out of touch with the neighborhood. Or some people, it's like, it's like, I'm trying to think who said it. Like, just because, you know, not everybody from the hood is from the street. You understand what I'm trying to tell you?

Some people just lived in the area where things were going on, but they were working guys. school kids hanging out in the house doing karate splits crying you know not coming outside right you know what I mean so they're still from there but they're not from it you understand so it's a difference you know I mean this is why I tell people like a lot of people are just in the game based off association or a lot of people are just street related based of who they know you understand what I'm trying to tell you oh yeah it's like when I could pull up right now I could have pulled up with 30 guys in a

second. Pulled up with 30 guys, ice grilling, telling you, yo, yo, we sure we good to you, yo, because my man got it on them and told me

had to show you it. You know, oh, I've been through that. People, oh, and yo, listen, I'm telling,

yo, listen, hold on, which camera. I'm trying to speak to hip hop right now. Go for this one. Yeah, hello. I'm speaking to hip hop

directly, the whole hip hop. Stop trying to impress me when I meet you. I don't want to talk about nothing negative. Don't show me nothing. Don't tell me fake war stories or

FaceTime. I'm your big homie and tell me that he's the one that you used to play duck duck goose with. I don't want to do none of that with you. I just don't. I really don't. Like, I'm good, man. I got enough pain in my fucking mind and my heart. You understand?

Like, I don't want to hear your fake negativity. I don't. Like, I don't want to hear your fake war stories. I don't want you asking me about things. Like, trust me. Trust me. Because a lot of these rappers, they come around and they think they could pull up all me and they want to come, they want to come chill and see.

And then, you know, they find out that a lot of dudes just don't. respect them and they get treated a certain way and then it's weird you know and then they don't hit me up and then I don't get invited to Coachella you know what I'm saying it's like if I got lost on the mail yeah but I had a good day I had a good time at games day right RIP games that was a beautiful moment in there you know shots to Rocky making me a part of that that was fire he made sure that you were there 100% he wanted me in there doing my thing coming out bringing people you know co-hosting you know it's a good brother right there I see them in the street one time one of the morning. I was on like Avenue A and Sunblock, we're not gonna say. And I was in a very

expensive vehicle with a very good piece of garment on with a Latin woman. And we just bumped in each other random, chopped it up. I respect him for that. The man was walking around Lower East Side Dolo, you know, doing his own thing, wow. You know, respect. Chapped it up. You know, it's a good dude. Got a little history. You know what I mean? Like I fuck with everybody, man. who fucks with me. Like, just because you don't see me posting picks with people and, like, you know, fake showing love online, don't think people don't embrace me and fuck with me and I don't fuck with people.

Right. Because people get that confused. Like, yo, you didn't promote my album or tweeted or something. Don't think I don't fuck with it. I'm just focused on me. Right. Like, I'm not a walking billboard. Like, you know, you got to get an agent or a publicist for that.

If I fuck with you and I just remember to, I see you, I'm a show love. But I'm not doing it out of spite. Like, I got, my life doesn't revolve. around social media man. Like I have real things going on. Like my man just came home from doing six. And before that six, he was only home for two months when he just did five.

So you understand? Like 11 years gone, you know what I mean? And he's home now. And he's doing better than some of your fucking middle-aged favorite rappers, you know what I'm saying? It's like, things like this bring me joy. Not a fucking retweet or how many likes I got. You know what I'm saying?

I'm not worried about that. I'm going to get it regardless. A lot of people don't have shit going on on social media, but they live their whole life just trying to be these famous people. They do all the things that famous people do. They're fucking on live all the time.

They're three people. Renting of Airbnb. Take pics. Yeah, 10-carat gold. You know, you have disrespectful jewelry on. Right. It's not even about the money. It's just about the image that you want to be a part

of. You want to portray this thing. If you can't do it right, then don't do it. How about that? I don't do anything that I don't think is going to come out correct. How about that? Right. How about stop trying to do something that you're not ready for? You know? How about that, man? That's why I fuck with people, man, who like themselves, man. Like, you might see somebody with me and you might be like, yo, you know, yeah, yeah, I like two different type of people. Like, I wouldn't see you with him or, but you don't know, like, what that person is. You know, you don't know what things we got in common. You just talking about you don't dress alike or, yeah, I don't have the same.

exact past or from the same area. You don't know what me got, you know? Our bond could be deeper than that. People gotta stop assuming, man. If you don't know something, ask me, you know what I'm saying? Instead of assuming some shit. You see how I am.

How many years ago I met you though? Didn't we just mean wrong and loud? No. Way before that shit, man. Where? Fool's gold, man. Stop back than brand new, man. I never been a Fool's gold.

Yeah, you was in fools gold. You were talking about some other white boy. I would never been a fool's gold. You was at fools gold, smoking dust, covered in piss. covered in piss. You met some other guy from a metal band with a throat tattoo and you thought it was me. You had a push a tee t-shirt on.

I remember I met push-a-tie back in the day in New York because I went to a clip show and I remember him calling out the audience because the audience was all white kids and calling him out for saying the N-word, but he was laughing about it to the audience. And I always think about that. I wonder if he just does that every night, like, every night on tour, you know. That's funny. Pusha T's saying that. I wasn't offended.

I was just interesting because I'm like, has this just been like the last 10, 15 years of his life or just like making the same joke every time he performs? I don't know. Yeah, sick person. I love Pusha Tee. We posted him doing some charity work.

And he was like, hey, no jumper. You got to come out and do this with it. I'm like, am I really going to do this? He's a legendary man too. I'm going to book a flight to Virginia and get a room at the Marriott so I can hand out turkeys with push a tea in the hood. That's fine.

And Malice is going to come? You see? Let's go. Laura? You're coming. There we go. Laura's good, man Let me just say

Laura's one of the best We was bonding outside Over some old Jadicus music She's good money, man She knows her rough ride of compilations well She was in the studio No, that was actually her banging on the drums Nah, that's a fact

The champ is here That was her She got a good heart You can tell she drives One hand on her hip Oh yeah Holy shit That's a mental image right there

I wish y'all don't even know about Laura Laura's one of the greatest mysteries of this podcast We're talking about her all the time, but they never really get the glimpse. She's kind of like a big body best in that way. That's what I mean. She's mysterious.

Yeah. But you know she probably makes a fire casserole or some type of baked ziti. We don't even know, yeah. Keep it real. Don't joke around. You sell mac and cheese on Facebook? On Facebook. Bro, she's so rare.

The only time I ever seen her looking at a guy with lustful eyes, he looked like Garth Brooks. A young Garth Brooks. Oh, man. move away from the oppressor's lore Yeah, I know Laura, you gotta stop fucking with these white boys I'm gonna treat you right now I want to see you with a good Mongolian man

She wants a skater in her life She wants a good Chad muskare or something Like a Cambodian guy who could change you She wants anyone Oh she's an M&M head Eminem out the That's all she cares about She's like a huge huge chic luch fan

Oh my God You're like the Albanian chic luce You should have just came with that tagline From the beginning That's a day all Don't ever disrespect. No, what? He's the illest.

He's the illest. But I can't be nobody. But I didn't understand him when I was a kid. I wasn't a huge fan of the kid. I had to grow into it. He's one of the illest. Sheik is like underrated dope. You know what I mean?

And he's also like the allure. Like he ain't put too much out. But every time he did, it was fire. He's rare. But me, I just, you got to keep it funky. I came in the industry. I came in the game. I didn't sound like nobody.

No, no. I definitely was distinct. And I never talked about myself. You know what I'm saying? but I'm going to take this time to do that. How tall is Sheik Luch? Here's what I found. What the fuck?

I'm going to really click on this dude's Wikipedia article. But to me in my head, he's like 6'9. No? Damn, that's fucked up that the internet knows so much shit, age 43. And we don't know how tall he is. I want to know how tall he is. Because when I meet Sheik Luch, I want to know what I'm getting into. You know?

When you meet him. One of these days. I'm gonna pull up to his crib. Yeah, yeah. When you had your time sharing Tampa. Sort of wait outside. Tampa. I ain't been to Tampa in a minute. Tampa was not. If I went to Tampa right now. Last time I was in Tampa, I bought like five, six hundred fucking packs of fucking Lady G triple stacks.

What the fuck? You were an ecstasy salesman. I could see that. I never said that. You stay in the rave. You've been to a rave, huh? Oh, man. I sold fake shit at raves. I used to bump fake ones at rapes. Yeah. All that shit. When Lime Light was Avalon. Right. All of them city, I destroyed downtown Manhattan with, you know, with the good ya-ya, but when things, you know, it's out and things run out, and I'm there, it's three in the morning, you still coming up to me with your jaw. Like, you want,

we on 12th Street and your jaw is on 16th Street. And I'm like, Chad, calm down. Right. Go to the ATM, get that, and come back. Right. You know what I mean? Now, depending on how I feel he might just get hit with an alka-seltzer you know what I mean you know when you crush up the Alka-Seltzer I got that fish scale to it that's a little move I'm gonna teach you when you break an Alka-Seltar it's got the fish scale glitter to it so if you break an Alka-Seltter it comes in pieces it looks like a little raw pressed you know right it looks like some raw then you burn the tips you know what I'm saying after you already made you know you know your word is already good in the club they're like now he got the fire you know what I'm

saying now I already built that trust with you. Time to betray it. There we go, because I never cared about you from the beginning. You know, that ski trip I sold you, you know what I mean? It's hard to respect your clientele at that moment, right? Yeah, because the end of the day, you got to remember, man. You didn't even throw any mac and cheese in that thing, huh? No, once in a while?

No, I did, but I forgot to, man. My mind was boggled. No, that's cool. I just thought it was kind of interested to see how much you put in there, but I forgot about it. Put it on the top, too, man. Lace it. Oh, you put it on the outside. Six feet.

Six feet. In my mind, he's seven feet. I'm six three. That's crazy. I'm six three, too. Twins. But they always shoot him with an HD camera, that's why. From the ground up with the fish eye. In my mind.

Yo, you're a creep. You ever look up, she, mooched. I'm fucking too heavy, man. I'm fucking too heavy, man. You are. You good, man. We should have been to this shit, man. How many Pat Poo's mixtapes you caught back in the day on Canal Street?

Oh, man. How many Gino green shirts you had? I was really How many Kay Slay leather pants you got No no no no I could never touch that Shots to the Drama King man My first Yeah yeah what was my man Fats

Van Sikland and Fulton What was his magazine? Shots to my man Rhino He out here whaling What was it? Shots to my man Mold 172 Auto Barn all stars My mind is too boggle

What was Kay Slay's magazine You definitely have a subscription Straight Stuntin You modeled for straight stunting You had on Paris Succo jeans No you're a Buffy of the Bodies fucking assistant you showed up you helped her with her nails and her heels and you were a choreographer you definitely got snuffed at a B2K concert hell no I'm not

donated a couple grams of semen to buff you the body back in the day though I'm gonna be honest with you she might have got a couple a couple Kleenex filled up that's nice you just lost 80,000 followers in my Gino green shirt and your Gino green shirt crying you smelling your fingers giggling do you think that when Remy Ma and him are together that she kind of like thinks about his Gino Green shirt era sometimes she just thinks about because like to me he was if I met Rememima I would want to tell her about what I thought about her man back in the day because I like he's the illest to me Papoose is a legendary human being insane like he's just like there's he's not like anybody he's like I don't like talking

we're going to take it to the guns come on his his leather fitted game oh my god black love you see him on love and hip-hop still he got come on a brand black love him and You know him and Remi have mad like Brooklyn Bronx arguments. You know what I mean? I wouldn't be surprised that they stabbed each other while hooking up one time. Yeah, but that's how you make love in the Bronx. You have to bleed. You have to bleed.

You have to destroy one pair of Air Force ones or you do not make love. Oh, excuse me. Is that your fucking Mitsubishi Diamante? Oh, we'll be all right. The scars will heal. But the pain lasts forever. That leather fitted will last forever I promise you that

Oh God It's something about Look I always talk about leather But when you put on a nice fresh leather And it hits your skin That's a priceless feeling Especially when it's like a cool leather It was cold outside a little bit

And that butter hits you Come on man RIP Sammy's on Fordham and Jerome A lot of listen I'm gonna say one more thing There's a lot of people That come on the internet And social media

And they're shouting out These fucking legendary corners And these neighborhoods You just Googled shit You weren't there for it You didn't live it When I say Shouts to Sammies on Fordham and Jerome.

That was a legendary spot. I spent mortgage money in that store. That's where I got my cool jies. That's where I got my pellies, jewelry. Because if you know Sammies had jewelry when you first walk in and make that right, but you didn't know act like that. You wasn't heavy with the Lebanese thugs in there.

You didn't know him, you know? He was overcharging you for leather. I knew what time it was, you know what I'm saying? My whole thing is this. Like, we live these things. Like, when I speak, I always speak in detail because I love to paint the picture specific, you know? I want you to truly know,

what I'm saying and truly be able to trace my steps, all my steps, you know? Like this is exactly what Big Body was when he thought of this. This part, this corner right here inspired this song. This is where this comment came from, this statement, you know what I mean? I want you to know because we got to speak in detail. That's what hip hop is about. And I keep saying the word hip hop because it got played with that, you know, how people play the word.

But it's true though, man, that's what it really was about. It's about description, detail, you know, what's going on, your surroundings. Now it just got cool to be weird And all this X shit But that's it Like this new drill The Brooklyn drill And the whole Brooklyn movement

That's fire That's reality Right We ain't nobody's trying to say That they invented drill Or invented the beat Or see that's one thing About New York I always say

We never saying That we invented everything We just take it And make it better Or add to it You know Not trying to compete With us already there

But we want to add something that betters it. You feel me? Is that wrong? No. It's like when the South is taking the rap game for Mad Long, nobody was like, yo, it's right, nah, because they had to come hard, and they came with fire. Right. And they still fire.

But you can't tell me New York ain't been ringing for the last 10 years. It has. Yeah. But all the people that come from New York are legendary people. New York just had a head start because it was like the first place, but, you know, other cities have had their rain and shit, but you can't act like New York ain't important in terms of what's going on in rap music at this time.

I mean, New York is going to always be, it's not just because we invented it. And it's just also because we invented it, but we keep coming back and reinventing it. The lingo, the style, the way we wear sneakers, you know what I'm saying? It's like even the way we rock gear, like we're not saying we invented it. Like, look at the Cardi's. Like, we wear Cardi's out here in New York. Like, we're not saying we invented it, but dude's been rocking Cardiardier glasses way back. if you remember what that you know the law library look looking like you just going to the law library

you got your coofy on you're trying to get your appeal so you over there trying to get your studies on that was that look that was a papoose series the law library right remember like nature yeah he had that look you know the cover like you know the you know the whole educated thug look right that's how it you know that's the way that came from that was a good era yeah all them do was like the whole firm remember a z the firm got hey at it they didn't deserve that show's to a z though man This is there are more of a shot. Shouts to the Bammers. I've got to go dip my toe back.

Nah, man, you do, man. Get back on Spotify. What's the AZ Spotify looking like? Not sure. Not sure. I can't really tell you right there. How tall is AZ? Yeah, you lost me with that one.

Arizona is 4,1001 feet of the FAC level. I'm going to just leave it at that. Tell me about your scandals. Scandals. You know. So about that car insurance scam you had going on in Brighton Beach The what? Car insurance scam you had

Carhart shirt Nah, the car insurance scam Car insurance I forget you killed it man I'm out of it. Erase the whole show Start over Yo rewind the tables

Do it over Hey take me back to How do you get access to that chicken spot That you ended up doing the fucking Taxiard I should did Charlemains first man Yeah Take me back I'm such a fan

I listened to it the other day That's one of the only podcast I ever listened to twice Take me back. Take you back. Take you back. We talked. Yo, I'm really killing this whole bottle myself, huh? Where's it at?

Salute. Salute. Tell us my brother. Yeah, a little more. Off the Buffalo Trace. The Buffalo Trace is fired. Who told us about this? Where did this come from?

I really wish this was sponsored. Josh, where you find it at? Oh, this is what you drink. Oh, I thought they might have just sent us a box and we just ended up with it. Okay. Yeah, that's hard. The interview went. We've been talked about doing an interview.

you know we know a lot of mutual people a long time we've been talked about doing shit and I told him that my first interview was going to be his with tax and you know we was going to come do it in the studio you know where everybody does their recordings at but I was like nah it's got to be special I was like we got to do it on the block you know

so I was like let me do it in the chicken spot because in that era that time of my life that's where I was like mostly at that's why I was working out of you know that chicken spot you know what I'm saying I provided services in that chicken spot

so that shit meant a lot to me you know I've been there for so long that place has fed me done a lot for me so I was like you know let me be somewhere where I'm comfortable so with a good Italian cheeseburger oh come on you know what with the fries in it only you wouldn't understand yeah I'll fuck with you for that

yeah but I just fuck with you because like that's a detail you see how you painted that because you got to see the Italian cheeseburg because it comes on a hero they chopped the burger in half Many nights at 4 a. Come on with the fries and ketchup in it? Oh yeah, yeah. Yo, for some reason, mayo ketchup.

I was stayed by that Kennedy fried, bro. I had a horrible experience. I stayed in Bushwick again, and we happened to be at a little, like, pop-up shop near my old Kennedy fried. I tried to pull up to the Kennedy fried. The shit was not there anymore. Damn. A Kennedy fried out of business?

Not just this particular location on Knickerbock was not there. That's like a precinct going out of business. Oh, yeah, yeah. Them sheds don't never go out. It just ain't right, right? It's supposed to be around forever. They don't see them. They always did.

It's like a public utility. Nobody knows who owns that, right? Crown fry? Yeah. Kennedy. I know who owns Kennedy, though. Older Afghani brothers, they own all the Kennedys. For real?

Yeah. Damn, all right. But they show mad love, though. They got the Bengali brothers working there, too. But I'll be, I'll tell you, listen, I didn't want to build it all up, but I got a big documentary coming out, you know, for Big Body Best documentary, the whole life shit. I'm going to go, I break down everything, the whole fucking crown fried legacy about, you know, how it got started.

Country fried. Yeah, because it started in a Kennedy fried, started in a small town in Afghanistan. What? And they don't, yeah, I'm going to put you on, man. It's a deep culture. It's a deep culture. Oh, wow.

Yeah, so I'm doing it. You know, I got a big thing coming out, man. Like, I got my own sandwich, my own burger at the fucking Kennedy fried. Right. Like, nobody's doing that. I don't see your name on the menu. I got actions name on the menu. You got the action lamb hero over there.

Like, nobody's doing that. Show me a rapper's name on crown fried menus. Like, this is what I say. Like, I'm truly at one with the street, with the corner, with the curb. Like, I love the street. I get dressed in the street. Like, I bathe in the street. I swim in the street.

That's what I'm about. And when I say street, I don't just mean negativity. I mean anything. You know what I'm saying? Life. Like, life is on the corner. Information is on the corner. Because all things hit the corner.

They meet. When the last time you cracked open a fire hydrant for the kids to play? Nah, but I was in a fire hydrant maybe eight and a half days ago. In? Yeah. Walking through it, minding my business. Not saying anything to anybody. Right.

I was walking through the water, not telling. And this morning, I had breakfast and I didn't tell. And then tomorrow I'm going to have dinner, and I'm not going to tell. And I'm not going to write a statement on somebody I call my brother. And I'm not going to get caught with something in my waist. And then tell the Ds on the way to the precinct, yo let me just make the deal now and get me out the back door so this shit don't got to make the paper we know about you when nobody's fooled like trust me nobody's fooled like you're not a magician

like gun charges don't disappear you know like rappers love making things seem like they're just not the way they are you feel me in general like a lot of rapes if you google the last 10 years who've been arrested for gun charges right And then Google the follow-up. Like, what happened with that? We'd never heard anything. What happened? Like, how?

Oh, welcome home to El Santana. That's real. Home yesterday. Got caught up, innocent man, did his time, came home. God bless, man. That's a legendary man right there, man. I love dipset.

Anybody from our generation. I hate this we don't admit it. I hate when people don't give them they fucking credit. That shit was inspiration, man. Oh, yeah. Like, we used to get money listening to dipset. Like, that that's what it was, man.

Like, that shit was inspirational. That was, like, church music, you know? That shit's crazy. That's gospel right there. He was... It was the truth. Like, Cameron just utilized his energy in a way that was... He was fired.

Jones was just in the league of his own. When Jones started really rapping and coming out, oof, that shit was fired. We used to get hype. We always loved Cam and Jewels. But when Jones... Jones started saying some crazy shit. We was like, what the fuck?

You got a little bit of freaky Ziki in you. Pause. Nah, I know what you mean? No, yeah. I know what you mean? Like the whole, the aura of the well, you know, the outspoken and the little wild the energy. Yeah, of course. You always got the feeling that Cameron really didn't know where Freaky Ziki was.

Like, he wish he knew, but he just, he couldn't control him. One thing he knew is that he was loyal. One thing is knew that he had love for him. So I respect you like that. he didn't need to make a top 10 song he still got a deal for him like here you go alley you know i respect people who feed their team or not even feed their team but just give the opportunity like you know what i'm saying like that's what's really about man some people don't take care of their own you know it's true bro you see it that's real yeah man i'm just keep it funky real funky but i don't

rely on no man what's the day in the life like of big body best on average yeah shit wake up three in the morning, right? Scream. Scream. Go back to sleep. You know? Hit the park. Do some pull-ups?

Yeah. I love working out at night in the seat. Yeah, that's great. You said that. You could have been on the bartons. I love, yeah. I love working out at night. Now, I've been getting my health together, man.

I lost 76 pounds, man. For real? Yeah. I'm on my shit, man. I'm on my shit with the weights again, man. I'm back on it. Okay. I got a workout thing coming out.

Some shit called thugged out workout. You know what I mean? It's going to be comedy, music, and health. I know, guys, start stealing my ideas more. Keep going. So it's like, you know, because I document everything now. You know, only the shit that could be suitable for television, you know? Right.

Because we're not here to put people in jeopardy. So my whole thing is like, not that I'm around negativity, because I live a positive life. You know what I'm saying? I eat clean proteins. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't do sugar. You know what I mean? No soda.

I work out. I also work out my mind, you know what I'm saying? I stop stressing things. you know what I'm saying? I stopped holding on to pain and anger, you know? Because I used to do that, man. I used to just like transform like pain into anger, you know what I mean? And that shit was dangerous for a lot of people, you know?

Dangerous for myself too, you know what I'm saying? But I just had to learn how to apply my mind, you know? Because I got all the talent in me. I got all this stark quality. You know, I speak like this about myself because there's a lot of people that don't speak about me. You know what I mean? You see I don't get all the press runs. You know what I mean?

And that's just what it is. You know, me, me too. I ain't going front. Like, you know, with my shit, like, I didn't really take a lot of shit seriously and I procrastinated a little bit. But a lot of people, too, man, try to leave me out the thing, man.

You know what I'm saying? They slowly try to push me out the picture, man, but you can't because I'm the artist, you know what I'm saying? I paint shit, boy, boy, you know what I mean? You could be immediate, darling. You could be on Ellen if you want us. Nah, I mean, she out of here, man.

Yeah, I might just take that show over, man. I might just take that over, yeah. You know, body in the morning, on the block with body. Building, I got to show a workout thing called Building with Body. You know what I mean? Come on, man. Right.

Big body building. Come on, man. You believe Ellen created a toxic workplace? Do I believe it? I don't know, because I don't believe accusations. I believe facts. But I'll say this. A toxic workplace.

You know how many toxic workplaces I've created? Right? You know how many places I've destroyed? You know how many vice employees can't sleep at night because of the things I've done and said? But at the end of the day, bro, I'm not here to live for them, children. I live for me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I still text all the Vice employees every Ramadan

and send them blessings. You know what I mean? I make sure I always show love, man. Like, I have no hard feelings towards nobody. I don't do interviews and badmouthed interviews, uh, networks, and that shit's corny. Because what are you doing? You're bad mouthing a brand. Uh-huh. Say who the person is. Like, yo, I didn't get alone with Vice. The whole fucking, nah, I got mad people to show me mad love. Vice gave me wild opportunities, man. Uh-huh. I'm for real. I'm on television, son. Right.

You understand that? You understand, like, where I really come from? Like, I used to tie people up in cell phone stores. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. Like, I used to take things. I'm a taker. You understand?

Like, that's what I'm about. You know, I'm about doing what I want when I wanted to do it. So for me to be on television, for me to be on tour, for me to be on songs, and for me to be at a Coachella, at a Rolling Live with you. Like, you know what type of a miracle that is? Right. They know such thing is luck. I don't believe in luck.

We don't do luck. You know, we do miracles and blessings. And that shit right there is a blessing. That's why I take it serious. I don't play with this. Like, you can't come in my circle and try to do something. I'm telling you, man, like, we just move with love and compassion, but it's aggression when it needs to be.

Picture me just a rap fan. And I got Action Bronson handing me a cooler full of his ice cream packed with dry ice. Remember that? So we've got to just bring that shit home. A rapper, though, right? A fire rapper. Right. Because he's one of the best.

Can't deny that man, his skill. He's one of the best. They know that. He just is. And it's not because that's my brother. He is, though. He's ill. My man is nasty.

He does what he does, and he does it well. He says, he went and put out some ice cream. He was handing it out to all the kids. Rappers won't, I rather rappers won't do that. They want to put out a liquor.

You know, I'm too tough. I can't be selling no ice cream. Why not? You feel me? He's doing things that people seem like, no, he's doing what he wants to do and still being a dope-ass rapper. You know, he's not just a rapper. He's an artist.

And he was early on that way of building an overall brand and not compromising yourself, acting like the only way that you could be a dope rapper is to, you know, have a huge hit or whatever. He never really compromised himself in that way. Look, he never compromised himself. and he still gets all the fucking love of the industry. He's like what you would call a underground, no. But there's a certain love you get when you don't go for that. Yeah, because he still gets his songs played.

He gets the love. He gets the big artist looks. You know what I'm saying? He goes all the big festivals. Look at this. You know, like, I'm an ignorant duel. Like, I was ignorant when it came to success. I thought if you ain't have a song on the radio, you wasn't popping.

But then I started seeing the power of the shows and internet. And I started seeing like how big it. really is, you know? It's just powerful, man. Hits don't really mean nothing. Hits just mean radio. Hits just mean single sales. Hits don't mean.

I've seen dudes with hits that can't sell out of festival. They can't sell out of the show. They don't get booked for Coachella. They don't get booked for Rolling Loud and all the dope-ass festivals. Because festivals are fire. If you really from the street and you love being outside in the corner, my brother, go to some festivals because those are popping. Everybody's chilling, right?

everybody's saucy, everybody's drinking, smoking, mad shorties out there, everybody's whaling. That's what life's about, man. These rappers be lying, man. They know they want to go. They know they want to be invited. They know they want to go to the parties, man. That shit's live, man. You're in the mosh pit?

Nah, the mosh pit is good, man. You just got to keep like a broken raspberry snapel bottle with you. You are right. Sometimes you can't always ask why. You got to ask how. You got to keep a snapple bottle on you. That was my choice of weapon for a lot. is man it just grips perfect something about it can't talk about too much too you ever feel like vice

didn't fully utilize bronzen i know the turmoil behind the scenes i know he ain't always been happy with that yeah they ain't utilized him they didn't utilize me they didn't they didn't see that they saw potential but they went about the wrong way they offered me a show but they wanted to own it they didn't want me to have ownership they didn't want me having a full say in my shit And how are you gonna have full say a big body? I came up with the idea. I came up with a show. And then they took my idea

and tried to repitch it to me and saying that they own it. See, we did an episode called Corner Store situations, right? Where I did, you know, like the internet, you answer questions people ask? Right. Like for Noisy. And we did one in the Corner Store

and that shit went viral. So they was like, oh, I came up. I said, let's do a store, let's do an episode. They wanted to do it in the studio. I said, no. Just like the corner, right? Just like the chicken spot. I said, let's do it in the bodega.

Let's do it at the Ock store. My store where I'm at, where I be at. Let's go. Boom. Ock is like, yeah, we could use the store. No problem. Smoking, wild and film it for free. No problem.

Shit goes viral, gets two, three million views. Oh, that's the show. Nadi said. Yo, corner store situations. My name, my idea. Yo, body. Every people, yo, we're going to do this. You want to do it?

We're going to give it to you. And I'm like, that's my idea, though. Like, of course I want to do. It's my idea. And now it's like, oh, we own it. No, because they changed. name a little bit. I'm like, see what I'm saying? Here goes to industry shit. He owns his show. Act owns fuck that stuff. That's his show. He owns it. So why can't I own mine? Why does

Big Biden not get to own it? Why doesn't the big Albanian Muslim guy get to own his show? Why? Why I get left out of interviews? Why? I'm on television, world tours. How come I don't do the press runs? How come? You think they think you're too volatile or they don't want to make you a star? I just want to know because I just really want to know it. I want somebody to truly tell me why because I get alone with everybody. I never, I don't got no scandals. I'm not no snitch.

I don't got no foul past. I want to know what's popping. It was shaking because what's good. Let's clear this up. But that's just like, you know, you don't want to be that like angry guy. Like, so you just be like, I'm going to just keep doing me. But if you got to be stupid or blind or ignorant, to not see funny shit going on.

You crazy? I'm a fucking star. And I say that not to be ignorant or cocky. I'm just saying the truth. They ain't nobody doing what I fucking do. Who? Who's going to imitate me? Nobody.

I come correct, but I don't play games. But there's been crazy people in the industry where they're labeled crazy or out of control and they still get the show to love. They get older, you know? How come I ain't got no manager? I mean. My man's, I got, shit, I got brothers.

who got the biggest managers and the biggest connects that can snap their fingers. I know people to this day I see in the studio. To this day, smoke blunts with big blunts. Give hugs. Ask me how my father's doing. Ask me crazy shit. We built all day. They got the power to change my life and a snap of a finger.

You think they do it? No, hell no. Because they keep me where they need me to keep me. You understand? I get the big hugs. I know dudes that could change my life in a phone call and get me up there. And not faking it. Just like, yo, he's ill.

Yo, he's ill. He's a star, son. Let me do this for him. Real connect this. And I'm a, nah. No, why? But it's cool. We don't, we don't make it awkward.

You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to mention names and make people feel weird. But I know, we all, I'm not dumb. It's like, yo, get body some more weed back in the day. Like, when it's time to sign paperwork, make sure he's, yo, there's some more weed. Here's some more honey.

I don't got no lawyer, though, bro. I don't got no manager. You sure? Just sign it? Who's my manager? You think you signed some bad deals in the past? Of course I have. Why?

Because you know why? But you know how to get a manager. Of course I know. Yeah, but I know how to get a manager. But then again, it's like, people could have been like, yo, this is, you know, boom, bop, bop, make the call. Right. But my thing is like this, I don't know shit.

And I'm part of something that's part of something bigger. So am I going to not sign this deal and hold my man show up? Right. Am I going to do it to domino effect, brother? me spiting them is going to spite my brother so we don't do those like you know

it's like yo go with the flow you feel me and like they like vice would say like yo you know this isn't like this is just a platform use this for something else don't think of this as you know the main thing and it's not but I'm putting work in son

I'm on television son you feel me you put me at risk beloved if somebody sees me in the street you know people are ignorant yo he's on television you know he gets a million dollars episode I heard you don't you telling me people don't talk about people think like that yeah anything like that because no I'm on channel 137 on vice land brother that's not a network that's that's nothing it's a couple of stacks a couple of

stacks TV now we're going to pay you exactly what they got to pay what they do but my thing is this you get what you feel you deserve right or what you or would you negotiate what you're going to agree to there's no hard feelings right but my thing is this after a while you start seeing yourself putting in work and you start seeing the numbers go up and you start seeing everybody loving you and they're asking for you all the time and they want to put you in more things and they want to put you in like all the advertisements all the trailers all this all that and you're like oh shit i bring something to the table so where's mine bro how many more episodes how many more series can we keep saying no the next one we got you yo i promise you're getting a show after this

Do this one more season. We got you. It's body season. We got you. What's up now? Come on, man. Come on, man. I'm not saying black bald and weirdoship experience.

No, but come on, man. You know, I always wish that Bronson has had his own YouTube channel, and I wish that you had done that from the beginning because to own that platform is invaluable, you know? I ain't going to have fucked up. I should have like, there's nobody who's going to do shit for you. In my mind, in my mind, I was always like, yeah, son. Like my man's got his shit popping first like boom he's good now we all in there like everything is like yeah i'm gonna just go on some straight to the league shit but my whole thing was like trying to be one foot in one foot out you can't you really cannot live both lives i swear the guy it don't work it don't you're gonna put yourself in jeopardy man and this shit it just at my mind was going for with it like and then my mother had passed away like three and a half four years ago and that shit fucked me up where i was losing it So I was like, damn son.

You know, like priorities, you feel me? Family. That's why I'm like, yo man, I can't fuck with like this shit because this shit is like, it's about having patience and I'm not good with patience. I don't like being pushed to the side or being lied to because I'm going to find out where you live and I'm going to send you

pictures of your address. And I'm not saying that anything's going to happen. I'm just saying that it's a small city. Like, you think you're safe because you move to bedstiles. like you're going to wait for that A train at Nostravelo, every morning. And, yo, it's not, people bump into people.

People get pushed like, yo, be careful, man. Don't do it. Accidents. This is a careful city. There's lawyers everywhere. If I slip in falls, accidents, accidents happen. Be very careful how you approach people. Be very careful how you speak about certain people and try to blackball them.

Because I promise you, if you work in the industry, you're not really making hundreds of thousands. You don't got money for security. You're just a walking victim. Nobody has just victimized you yet. And I'm not speaking tough or wild. I'm speaking in general that we live in this world where we feel like this force field and this like, you know, like, yo, this internet and the industry, the industry. I'm in the industry. They're not in it.

You live in fucking New York City, my man. Be easy, bro. Be respectful, man. Don't try to destroy nobody, man. Be easy. You know what I'm saying? Build, man. Build and destroy.

But not always. destroy. Come on, man. I get passionate about it, though, bro. I don't like babbling, but... No, I like it. It's good. Yeah, because you know it's real, man. You know, I tried to put together a list of, like,

questions or at least topics earlier. First one just says, robbing the token booth. That's great. You said, yeah. Why does it say that? I don't even... Because I tried to rob the token booth.

I attempted. Right. And that was, I sorry about that because a woman lost her hearing because of that incident. And, you know, it was a nice lady, too, man. it was a situation got bad. I was like 12 years old.

Her hearing. Yeah, it was a bad thing, man, because, like, this was like in 1997, going towards 98. This was a big error in that time where there was robbing a lot of token booth clerks

you remember. There was robbing them and there was lighting shit on fire. Remember, like movie Money Train came out, and there was robbing all the token booth clerks. If you look back and you could Google it,

like, in New York, in the 90s, there was a big thing with robin token booth clerks where there was, lighting the fluid. They were like lighting, they were squirting like gasoline in and making them run out and then get all the money. So I had like a weird idea like that I was going to rob it but scare her to thinking we were shooting a son. So I was going to like my man had this knife.

Like I couldn't like I was going to go do it with this little my mom's two too too and go like just try to rob him when they come out. But I was like, yo we're going to go in there with my man and my brother was there and we was going to go in there. So I had these idea. I was like, yo, Why don't we just put some firecrackers, like some fireworks in there by the token booth slot thing? And she'll hear those and think it's gunshots and run out or something. Bad eyes. It was stupid. You know what I mean?

12 years old smoking weed, high. So, like, I thought she was going to come out the thing. The fire, you know, it was like the wolf packs, the firecrackers, the pops, you know? I thought she would hear that shit and think it's gunshots and then run out, maybe, you know? She did it. They went off. And, you know, when the token booth, the shit echoed all. So I heard went.

I got away whatever Didn't catch nothing. I got away But of course like a dummy like a month later Went to that same subway to hop the train And I got stopped by a transit cop undercover And then they were like yo talking to me And they were like yo you fit the description of somebody that did something here a month ago So then I was 12 years old you know and having the precinct terror gave me crazy family

Cop to it not a cop to it but I copped saying like because they were like yo They had me in the precinct for like seven, eight hours. And then like, yo, you're not going home. You're going to go to Spofford for like, for like, you know, like a couple months so you go to trial this. But if you just tell us you was,

you ain't got to tell us you did it. Just tell us you was at that train station that day. You just used the train. So I was like, yeah, by myself. I was like, yeah, I just, so and so by myself, I used it. I was at that train station that day. But I didn't do, then that was it.

I liked myself, you know what I mean? I went to court. I went to trial with that. You know, I blew trial at 13. Really? I went to trial for that. I blew trial, straight trial. The detectives came.

One of my cold deeds told all me, testified against me, 13 years old. Wow. I blew trial. I got 18 months up upstate. God damn. I shit fucked my mind up, don't wrong. It did.

You were all of a sudden all around all these. I'm around all my peoples forever in the street. I was young. I was 10 and 11 breaking night hanging out on the corner in the park, chilling. And now I'm in a jail cell. Like getting strip searched at 13 years old. Right. Having a shout with other.

Boy, you know, like that shit is traumatizing. Like being having to survive, having to fight for. for your snacks having to fight for everything. You know, like 13 having to fight two people getting like, you know, like seeing real, you know, gang situations. Like, because everybody, you know what it is about institutions is that there's nowhere to go. Your problems is going to be there every fucking day.

You in the hood, you could just go, dip. Don't have to be there. No, you're here. He's there every fucking morning. The same guy, 100 feet from you. That shit gets crazy, rule. That's why I just tell it in general, like, that shit just prepares you for,

But I got caught up in the 90s, though. That's when they were locking up all. If you remember Giuliani, Pataki, they was locking up all the juvies. They was like, everybody was going upstate. Crime was like they wasn't playing. That's what the first gentrification of the city. They was locking up all the juveniles.

That's when the, you know, try on upstate. We was in there. Like, that's when shit was wild. It really started going hard on crime, you know? It was, though. Yeah. That's when New York started changed, right? Like, you remember New York in the 80s and 90s?

I do. I remember the 90s, Pat. Like, you know, I was born in the 80s, but the 90s was wild. Yeah. I remember every spot was like a spot. Every bodega, every video store, music store, like barbershop. Shit was crazy, man. It was live, though.

Like, I remember when you was wearing your jewelry in Rikers Island. In the 2002, he was wearing your jewelry, your sneakers. Yeah, like you keep your jewelry. All your jewelry, all of it. If you had a rope chain, you had, if you wanted to wear, you could wear it. My man's got flicks in there with their jewelry on, wallabies on. If your name is your name, you could. Wow.

Is it? I like that. Shout to the Packwoods. They always give me these things. I never really end up smoking. They're not bad, you know. They're not bad, but I try to chill with like on the fucking, the backwards is rough, though. I used to be a daily backwards smoker, and now I'm a spliff guy.

Shout to Alchemist. I never, actually, that's one weird thing. If I meet Alchemist, but I want to go to the studio and see what his splits are like. I know. Then I feel like I know about a hundred splits a day. I know. But he mixes them with tobacco, though. No, that's the whole thing.

Yeah. That's why I'm I can't smoke weed without tobacco This is that shit. Emple leaf. Oh, is it? Yeah, because they sell these legally, so they got a... All you can't have tobacco if you sell them. Exactly, they put it with a hemp leaf,

but they got this dark-ass hemp leaf. I don't know what they do to it, but it makes it like it kind of feels like a tobacco leaf. Let me get my whole outfit over here real quick. Yeah. Come... Oh, structure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, now we got the nice mid-drift going.

You look like you got liposuction in the 90s. Yeah. You got liposuction. suction at Target. You got to go to the Rainbow Room. You got to go to the Rainbow Room. Alphimus put me into that spot. We saw a mad person there.

Yeah, that's, you know about that shit. Because there's, we used to always do shows next door, right? And there's always like, well, rap shows next door. So you go over there? What's the name of that spot next though? Because I've seen the shit. The Rainbow, oh, the Roxy. The Roxy.

No, but, bro, the Rainbow Room? It's fucking fire. I've seen on people's stories and then doing Coke off the table. drinking lean in there, rolling blunts in there. Ain't none. They don't give a fuck. We're two hours into the interview so we can just say that.

You pull up into the restaurant they give you a plate for your weed to break up. Oh yeah. And they got fire food though. Right. Like pizza, Italian food, wings, chicken parmesan, pasta.

I might go tonight. Yeah, we ain't there tonight. We're gonna do the part two. We don't know. We're gonna go to part two. We're gonna go in there doing, we got to do it. But you know, that's a good spot.

If you want to see Ron Jeremy, well, he's locked up right now. But if you want to see Ron Jeremy, you pull up to the rainbow room. You were wilding Ron Jeremy. If you was whaling, you're wilding. I don't know if motorheads on your radar, but Lenny was in there all the time too, bro. Motorhead.

Yes. He was off speed in there, I heard. He was a speed guy. He was off amphetamines in that bitch. Yo, he was a wild man. Young Adam, man, man, young 2-2. That's my man, Adam 2-2, man. How many kids you got?

None. None. I got a lot of sons in the game. A lot of sons in the street, but I ain't got no children. That's real. I'm having a daughter two months. God bless, man. Game of change.

God bless you for that, man. Congratulations for that, brother. For real. It's going to be all good, man. I'm just telling you because I'm bugging out. Nah, but you know what it is, though? Because that's a real thing. That's a life-changing thing.

Because you know all the drama in your life, the craziness, and now it's it for all, everything's for her. You were living for you. Right. Now you live for her. Right. It's a cycle. That's actually feels crazy to me that there was a point in my life where all I cared about

was getting fucked up in fucking bitches. I know. You know why? Because that's a part of being a human man. In a way, not every time, but you know, in this land that we live in, the culture we're around, it's accustomed to it. Yeah. If you were raising a different culture, that would be odd to you. You feel me?

Right. It's what we're used to. American culture portrays, you know, sex, wilding, drinking, smoking. That's what it is, though. Society did this. Yeah, society did it to you. That's a fat. That's sick.

All this weed? That's it, though. I can't help it. Like, the first song I ever liked was, like, the chronic, like, off the chronic. I ain't my fault How many times if you woke up Delusional Covered in some sort of like

Chemical in pink houses Yeah You ever just wake up I know you got a nipple tassel on You ever wake up with a nipple tassal on Nah man we don't live like that man You should be a shabing yourself Listen you don't got to pay rent like that no more

Adam When you get when you go to dung and donuts Well I go to dung a donut man I go and get like like the large tea with no sugar. What? Yeah, I'm on my thug shit, man. I'm on my sandwich. You get a big and punchy or whatever.

I still get an egg white sandwich, man. Oh, you get a egg and tasty? I get the egg white. Egg white. That's fine. That's fine. No, I'm not. The last two months, I changed it.

The fuck. I still going to go while. I go to BBQs, get the Henny Wings with a screwdriver. Wow. You just sit at the bar? You get the cheesecake factory, go to the bar. It's about a screwdriver, not a drink. The actual screwdriver.

Oh, you keep a screwdriver on you. Right, right, right. I respect both. You got to respect life. Jesus. You got to respect death to respect life. You got it. You got it close to you lately?

They got you reflecting? I lost somebody two years ago. Yeah? Yeah, RIP, my brother Bass, man. That was my bro right there. My co-decent's 11 years old, man. He passed, though. Situations, man.

Nobody's promised, man. Lose somebody else. I haven't seen a mad loan that got murdered two years ago. Yeah. Shit happens, though, bro. I'm gonna tell you like this, man. You gotta appreciate every day you got it, man.

Yeah. I wake up some times and I just tell myself, damn, man. It could have not been like this. Even when things are going horrible for me, I'm still gonna be like, yeah, man, I find some joy. I'm different, though. I find joy in pain.

So, really? I'm not normal for some things, you know? Yeah, I take painful things and I find joy somewhere in it. I'll search it. all right like pain like let's just say like if i was younger and i was hungry i didn't have no money to eat i would go steal something to eat yeah that might be painful to have to do it but then i found joy in succeeding at that theft i found joy in being full i felt joy in walking away and not

getting caught so i found joy in feeding myself and taking upon myself to be a man you know i find joy and struggle. I find pride and pain. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I do. This is why I speak the way I speak, because I love shit like that. Like, I love that I didn't have it. I love that nobody gave me nothing. You know what I'm saying?

I always had a plate to eat. I had a place to sleep at, but it wasn't the way I wanted to sleep. You know what I mean? I never had my own room when I was younger. You know, I always had to sleep in somebody's bed or, like, share a room and sleep on a little tiny-ass bed. like everything was always like mad family living with family or like wilding out you know so it's like when i have stable this that's why i'm like i'm like i praise it because my man i know what unstable's like

i know what wowin is like when i say wow and i don't just mean screaming acting crazy i mean wowing like every single night risking your life every single night not knowing what's going to happen like you know every time the bell rings or somebody knocks at the door you everybody shook scared that feeling like that's a bad feeling to this day like you know having dreams of like especially if you have jail dreams like jail dreams are the worst when they feel so real like you're in jail and your dream and you can feel it then you wake up and you like shit and those is crazy man because like albanians like when albanian men have dreams like there's a big thing like they believe in it like they this you know like they go with dreams you know like my father always seen things in the

dream you know what I mean they're big with that they're really in tune with all that you know like You know vibes and like you know energies and things you know and believe in things like that So that's why I say man like son praise man you got to think every day man no matter what you believe in or who you believe in man You just got to be thankful because it ain't promised man look how many people we almost lost there's quarantine's There's corona people dying man rip fred the guard son man i was just thinking that yeah r i p king shooter RIP everybody man you know shit is crazy they're never coming back ever right their daughters and son's gonna never have a father man She's wild Wow wild shit

Corona see And people think it's a joke man You see I got my shit right here man You believe in the mask It does huh Fire I don't play games on here Man listen I don't know what to say

I just want to see all my brothers come home I don't want to see nobody in prison suffering You know a lot of brothers in the system right now I don't have no power you know that they canceled all the trials There's no trials going on right now Oh really? Yeah a lot Tax the taxed been locked up for years waiting for trial.

Right. He's got almost four joints here. It's crazy as fuck the thing they can keep them locked up for all those years. Yeah, what about the people that was about to get the case dismissed? Right. And now it's like, no, you can't go to trial. That's it? There's no juries.

What jury? Right. Nobody's there. Crazy, right? Just sitting there. You're just sitting doing dead time. Just dead time sitting. Ah, man.

It's misery. That's what I'm saying, bro. Every time we have a couple. for ice or I have like a drink with ice in it. I thank God because them dudes ain't got no cold drink. They drink it out the sink. And some people that did bad things in the housing unit

they're drinking out the toilet. All right? I'm telling you you don't want that. Definitely not. No, they're drinking Puerto Rican lemonade. You want to know the recipe for that? Two Puerto Ricans in the toilet. This is why I say

and I see, I say, let's tell you one thing about me. I love to use, you know, what they, what the society calls humor. I use humor to cover up truth or to, you know, to like soften up the hard truth. You feel me? Everything I say is a fact. I might use a little humor with it, but these are facts. Like people are drinking Piss-Coladas on Rikers Island.

Like, that's what it is. Because they did bad things. They made bad choices. You understand? Life is about choices. and dealing with the consequences of those choices. Some of us have good times. Some of us has bad times.

Some of us have bad times in jail. It's a bad place. I always paint a little humor or I make it sound glamorous to some, but it's a very miserable place. It's hell. Jail, prison is no joke. But some of us go there and we take a bad situation and we make the best of it.

And we live to the best of our abilities, even better than our abilities in there. We have ice, cold drinks. I heard you was the chef up. Oh, I was definitely, I was definitely chef of myself, but I would definitely have, you know, an individual chef. Right. An individual who was definitely on narcotics in the street because he has no money.

So he'll cook and clean everything up after, and he gets fed. And he could chef it up. You've always kept a nice little fiend stable, huh? Always. You know why? Because I never judge nobody. And I've had people tell me, like, because sometimes I go on IG and I'll be on the block and I'll be like, and they'll be like, yo, like, damn, you always tape.

mad fiends or to i'm like how you know he's a fiend you seen him smoke something you just saying he a crack head why you label him that you know that's like filming me and saying yo why you film in this weed head that's all he does is smoke crack i don't know he smokes crack i just know it's a man and it's a human being and he's doing something he has a talent so i'm showing you that but you're judging him by his addiction right i'm saying he might have an addiction i don't know that I'm not watching him every day But if he does have an addiction That's not all he is

Feel me Somebody could be attentive to food Yo, what's up with that person? Describe him Nah, he's just always a hungry dude That's what he is He's just fat That's not about him

He's not loyal Yo, he's not a shooter He's not loyal He's not going to do nothing for you Not good but he's just fat Come on son Come on now you see You can't just reduce somebody

To their most bare bones Straight That's saying like yo man Like you know Come on Oh, man. Like, yo, this dude's a robber, man. He stole that rapist chain.

No, he's not. He's a borrower. He did a long-term loan. It's like if I take somebody's, like borrow somebody's chain, you can't tell me that I'm never going to bring that back. Do you know that? Right. Just for real.

You can't say, yo, body's never going to bring back that bracelet that night he took at the Barclay Center. It fell off somebody. Right. Once it hits the floor, it's everybody's bracelet. That's it. I just, you know, like, I love rice. I love beans. I love all types of foods, man.

Why just limit me to one type of food, man? I love to eat from all different situations, man. I love everything, man. I love getting money from every type of way, man. Why would I just want to focus on just rap when I'm so much more? There's so many levels to me, man. How long have we been here, man? Approaching two hours.

Seriously? Yeah. That's a fire interview, though. Hey, you hear about Marty Genetti saying he killed a gay man when he was 13? Marty Janetti? Yeah. I'm not even sure. The wrestler.

I don't know. I know action had a song. Right. Who is Khalifa, Marty Janetti. Right. Drop kick, you know. I'm pretty sure it was him. It would be kind of weird if it wasn't.

So basically, he just put out a statement and said that when he was 13, a guy tried to molest him. and he killed him. But now he's coming out saying he didn't kill him, he just beat his ass. But the way he put it out there at first was like he really, I'm about to read this. I heard the only way you found out about it,

you Googled that. Like, who's ever had a gay killing? What celebrity's been involved in gay murder? Yeah, here we go. I know. This is one of a con, bro. W.W.E. Legend, Marty Genetti's apparent murder confession sparks police probe. I never told one that

I never told. Oh, Ra! I never even I never told no one this even my brother Gino because Gino would have killed him and I didn't want my brother gone he'll only recently come home for Vietnam I was 13 working at a victory lanes bowling alley buying weed from a fag that worked there And he put his hands on me he dragged me around to the back of the building You already know what he was gonna try to do that was the very first time I made a man disappear They never found him They should have looked in the Chattacucci River, but Winnie, the girl in these picks, I likes you so damn much, probably my favorite, but I promised myself way back then, nobody would ever hurt me again. That includes you. I loved you, but you hurt me with your faggot Jamaican jealousy. You can go your own way. I don't need you.

The man said the word. Fagant Jamaican jealousy. It sounds like a crazy barber shop on Merrick. I can't even be getting around my head around this, man. Yeah, that's crazy. What the fuck? Jamaican jealousy sounds like a crazy nightclub on Lyndon Boulevard. I almost don't even want to follow up on this story. I want to just take it right there, believe it, and just never think about it again. I want to put out a mixtape called Jamaican jealousy.

That's real. You used to have a Jamaican me crazy shirt back in the day. You thought that was a really good joke. You definitely went to Jamaica, ClubMed 04, and got braids. the pool with little she cells in it with the beads yeah yeah yeah I know you're tight praise job yeah of course yeah yeah you had a Che Guevara shirt back in the 90s no you had a fucking Ed Hardy trucker hat oh man I wish I did no I was already I was already too grown for that by the time that came back you were good man he was good no I used no people who worked to the

Ed Hardy store and they were lit they were like like dudes like a dude who was really just working stock his shelves to Ed Hardy and he was getting pussy off that that was what the early 2000s were all about working at Ed Hardy. Maybe Abercrombie. I don't know. Those were the days of your life. Those were the days you found out you loved hip-hop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I found out I loved hip-hop from Abercrombie. I was at Abercrombie talking about RAT tunes with the homies. Oh, man. You were listening to Slum Village. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. No, no, no, no.

R.P. Sean Price. Bramsville. For some reason, whenever. I go to my iTunes, it wants to tell me that that was the first thing I ever pre-ordered. Sean P's a legendary human being, man. Oh, God. He really, he lived, he lived what he said, man. Don't you wish you lived to see him do a Vlad TV interview?

He never did? I don't know, I don't think so. But wouldn't you like to see him do one right now? I'd like to live to do one maybe. I don't know, I do interviews. You know what is with me? I don't hate no media people. You only go up there, you know what you're doing.

Like we just said before, anywhere you go. You chose to be up there. Right. Don't go ask somewhere with somebody ask questions. That's it. They're asking you things. That's it. Shut the fuck up.

I would love to see a big body best hit Vlad TV next like three, four years from now. Three, four years. Why I can't be tomorrow, man? You know, let this one cook. Let this one simmer for a while, you know? Let this shit get five billion hits. Exactly, man. I need a monopoly for at least 12 months after the interview, you know?

This and the White Clef interview are going to ring off. I really got Wyclef doing my theme music. Balling like an athlete but got no jumble. He's really doing that and strumming his guitar and shit. Remember he made that classic song with the rock? Did he? Yeah, he had a song with the rock. What?

I got to investigate that. You don't remember that? No. Why Clef and the rock? I heard you was a big fan of Fergie, her solo works. No? I heard you're a big fan of getting stabbed. No, no.

Never happened. He stabbed. He got with a beer bottle one time. Sick. In a bar. Sounds good. It was lit. Texas.

Texas, bro. What kind of drink you had? realistically probably like a bud light that I cracked in half and gave him a little with I think he was right though I never heard about it you had to express yourself you had to I feel like if he died I would have heard about it you know you might have had a little little ring around an abdomen I don't know I just figured out Marty Janetti myself real quick you know anything you want to confess to who was that fool from bad boy back in the day they're like confessed to a murder randomly all these years I'd never come

confess, but I'm going to come on no jumper and tell you everything. Let's go. That's what I'm saying. Over two hours in. She's ready. Doesn't Laura look like you just want to tell her about... She always got a hand on a hit. Your worst misdeeds?

That's not a baby right there, though. No, no. She's the hair flip emoji. Nah, you can't... Yeah. You just want to tell Laura all types of sweet everythings, but like you can't tell her things about crime things. No, no.

She's been a federal informant since the early 2000. She might wake up in a K-hole and just tell everything. She's Shugnight's daughter. Yeah. Shugnight's daughter. Yeah. sometimes things happen like that man you know she still visits them all the time

I really respect you can't you can't choose who you love through talking to you I really realize you can just say whatever you want I can say whatever I want but it always makes sense speech is an art form speech is an art form but so is being honest right honesty is an art form being sincere

you know there's a quote that I wrote down from something that you did previously which was just I spent six Six months in a staircase. I forgot what I looked like. You know what that's about. I don't know what that's about, but I just loved it. You're paying pictures out here. Because being in a staircase is what I'm trying to say is like being in the lobby in a staircase for so long and breaking night for days. I haven't seen myself or getting a shape up or cut and you get you're away so long you even get to appreciate it.

Or like you're just being away from society, man. Like I don't know, man. I've been in a lot of crazy. situations man I've been in places where I shouldn't have been or places that I should have been but I don't know man you know life is about places, experiences I just want to share mine

the reason why I can paint it so vivid is because I truly lived it and I live it I sit there's no thinking about it the way I do my music the way I live my life I just go I sit go sit you keep waiting

and overthinking shit should never come out It should never work. I like to make jokes too, and, you know, have a good time, but when it's time to go, it's time to go. That's it. Things like that. Things of that nature, man. We all going to die one day.

We are. So why be scared of it? Right. Why not just make the best before it? You don't cry about it. Think about death. It's coming regardless. Might as well just enjoy this time right here.

You got any local bookstores that we're going to be popping up at any time in the near future? Nah, man. They got lies in books. Don't read. Man, read your rights. Yeah, keep it up. It's a good time. It's been a good time.

I appreciate you. Appreciate you, man. Legendary interviews, man. No problem. Appreciate you. This is it. This is it. Huh?

Big Body best. Body language dropping this August. This is it. I telling you, man. Bally language, the album, the show. everything we got. Come on. Come on. Let's go. Free tax. Let's go. Free tax stone. He'd be home soon. Shouts to John Mena. That's my fucking brother right there. For real. Shouts to that man. He got ahead the size of a fucking parade float, but he got a good heart behind it.

That's a good guy right there. He's a good man. You know what I mean? Good brother right there. Shouts to everybody, man. Shouts to everybody pushing for me right now. Everybody behind the scenes doing what they're doing for me. I swear I got a I got a crazy team behind me. We're winning. I'm coming for everything. the trophies, the medals, all the fucking everything. All the awards, we're coming for everything. I swear, I know I've been saying this shit, but this is it. Everything is done, is mixed, it's done ready to go. I'm giving you that movie music.

This is that 3 in the morning money movie musical. You know what I bring. I bring you the best. The beats, fire. Shootout music. Machine gun money music. I promise you. This is what it is, man.

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