No Jumper - The Billionaire Black Interview: FBG Duck's Death, Being Blackballed, Leaving Chicago & More

Episode Date: February 24, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today I'll get the one and only billionaire black on the podcast. How you feeling, man? What's going on, my boy? I'm feeling great. How about you? Excellent, man. It's nice to have you on here. I was actually just telling you off camera that it's pretty crazy, like how many views you've been doing and how well your shit has been doing. And when I actually went and listened to a bunch of your shit and getting ready for the interview, I was very much like, damn, he's actually really been focused on his craft and getting better and working all these years. because, you know, you've been out for quite a while,
Starting point is 00:00:30 but it's dope seeing the fans, like, actually really going and appreciate what you're putting out there. Yeah, I appreciate it. You know, I'm just trying to get back and switch it up a little bit. You feel like, take a little drill shit and put it with the party shit because everybody wants to kill everybody, so I'm putting a little bop to it, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:00:46 I'll still say I might shoot your house up or something, you feel me, but we're going to dance while we shoot your house up. You feel me? You're going to make it fun, you feel me? That's interesting, yeah, because I mean, you've seen the whole fucking, the whole drill thing, like go from being something that was very much as local movement
Starting point is 00:01:02 to now it's like, damn near every city in the world got a drill rapper, got a little thing going on. We were just on the phone last night with some dudes from London, like, and these, they're doing like millions of views over there, bro, and they got drill beats and doing New York dancing, all that shit, you feel me, like, just taking the drill,
Starting point is 00:01:21 sign and run with it, like, I love it, you feel? Because I'm one of the creators of that shit, you feel me, like. Me, Chief, Keith, like, King, Louis, all that start rapping around the same time, you feel me, like, and Lil Durk, all of everybody, like, even though that's the opposite, like, I don't head on no nigger, like,
Starting point is 00:01:38 all of us start rapping at the same time, bro, you feel me? Right. So when I see somebody in another country doing that shit, it's, like, warm my heart, you feel of me, like, bro, yeah, that shit, what's up, like, we made a trend, you feel me? Yeah, because I feel like it actually kind of went to England from Chicago,
Starting point is 00:01:55 and then, from... from there sort of went other places in terms of like now when you think about drill, you kind of think about New York being the center of where is going on for the most part outside of Chicago in America. But like London, like a lot of the New York rappers kind of heard the London shit and then took that and like did their own style of it, you know? Yeah, but and it's crazy because they got a New York drill. Like, remember back then you can hear a beat like this is Chicago drill beat.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Now you can hear a beat like this is a New York drill beat. Like they had their own sound too. Right. That's your role, though. I fuck with it. No, definitely. But I want to go back to, like, the early days of when you started rapping because it is crazy going back and watching your shit, you and Doug and shit, like 9, 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Okay, the video for Is You Serious? Yeah. How early was that? Was that one of the first ones? That's like Duck's second video. Oh, second, okay. Yeah, like, his first video was wild out. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:50 And the second video was, is you serious, you feel like? And when we dropped that video, we, we, You just young, you feel me, game banging. It's this guy distressed us from 6'7 or whatever. He distanced us first. And Doug came to my house, yeah. Right. He did it.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Duck came to my house, like early in the morning and beating on my door, bro. Really? Fired up about it. And I'm asleep, and he's beating on the door. And I'm like, bitch, what you want? And he's like, bro, this bitch just distust, bro. Right. And I'm who the fuck we're talking about?
Starting point is 00:03:18 I didn't know what buddy was because I'm originally from the low end. Me and Duck, we both come from the low end. But we moved to 63rd and grew up and over there, you feel? But long story short, that's a whole other story. Long story short, he's not going to, though. He's like, some niggas just dissed us. I made a song, this is some other guys. And I said, like, 05 what?
Starting point is 00:03:37 And 600 is 0,59, you feel me? Okay. So he took it as I was dissing him and nil and made a song. Duck was dissing him and his song. You feel like me? Ducks had a song. His first video ever, he was dissing buddy. He came out there, came through the door swing.
Starting point is 00:03:51 You feel you like. Okay. So he was already mad at Duck. Then he'd see me with Doug. So the buddy made a song. about us dist us we came and did the same beat try to our video the same way right dropped it the next day did a million views on his ad like that right at them and them and them bro like right and sure he just went up from now for no so with you even like getting into rap and how
Starting point is 00:04:16 much of it was i want to be a rapper and i want to make money and i want to have a career for myself and how much of it was i got people talking shit about me on the other side of town and we got I gotta address this shit. It's that. At first, when we first started this shit, we wanna get no money. Like, all the camerameners just to finesse us take everything,
Starting point is 00:04:33 like we ain't gonna know about YouTube. Put it on their channels and shit, yeah, we wonder why the cameraman come with a new camera, oh yeah, I'm gonna shoot a video for you today, they're thirsty, you feel me? Like, they're pulling up in new cars, you feel me, like, we just happy,
Starting point is 00:04:44 we're young, we're 16, 17, 17, we're happy, we got the bitches, we get to go out of everybody noise, you feel, we were just like in the light, the light at the time, you feel me? Yeah. But once we heard all on this, biggest disallow people, yeah, we're gonna speak up.
Starting point is 00:04:58 So it went from there, and buddy Nume basically helped us too, you feel me? Because a lot of people wouldn't know us. Right. If they wouldn't have been saying our name. Right. You feel me? And that's where a lot of people go wrong. A lot of artists go wrong.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I'm seeing the same shit going on with Poo Shikstey. Right. Poo Shishti got some ops. You feel with me? He's saying their names. Now broke going up. You feel me? Saying their names during the moment in his career where Poo Shishty is
Starting point is 00:05:24 fucking as big as he's probably ever going to be as the epic moment in his career and he's kind of sharing a little bit of the light with the people that he's beefing with. I mean, I've thought that many times. Like, you know, is one thing to talk about your ops is another thing to make that famous. Because there was not a lot of people talking about 63rd until the last year or two, right? You hear me? You know? Nobody knew nothing.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Everybody just knew it was Tuka, Tuka, Tuka, this, too, that, you feel me? Right. Everybody was saying that, you feel me, but it was never fuck 63rd until, but it's a, but, you know, to bro made the shit a little meme. You feel me? Like, Shorty made the song and everybody going from that shit, you feel me like? And it's people around the world screaming that shit.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Now, say for instance, your brand, you're no jumper, you're Adam 22. You feel me? You putting your life on the line for this shit. This is your life, this is what you do. You feel me? You love this. That's how a block, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:06:17 People die behind this shit. My brother, Duck, died behind that block, you feel? How would you feel if someone posted picture with a no jumper sign on exed out. You feel me? Like, I'm not from no jumper. Fuck no jump. I'm not fucking with him.
Starting point is 00:06:33 You feel, me? This and that. Especially if it was somebody way bigger than me doing that. Then that just lends so much light to my shit. That's number one. And number two, we got people that's across the world that we don't even know. We don't know half of these guys that saying this shit.
Starting point is 00:06:48 That's rappers, bro. That's big. That got names too. You feel? We don't know y'all at all. Y'all ain't never been to succumbed. Kyle going did none to none of our people at all. So I understand this is a song.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Everybody can sing songs. I don't have no problem with you singing the song. It's a song. Right. But when you go and get the rapping shit and standing on shit like that, bro, then people like us on the other end going to speak up, you feel me? And when I do it, it was an incident with Fredo Baines just had the shirt on. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:19 He posted it. I just reposted and said I wouldn't want to be from over there. You feel me, bro? a lot of their ass dead too like it ain't just one side losing it's two sides to each story right you hear me and a lot of people don't know this
Starting point is 00:07:34 so by you posting that shit and going back and forth with me on the internet instead of keeping their business like a businessman posts to do right you letting it be known you in this street shit you feel me right so when you run into street niggers you gotta deal with it not me I ain't got nothing to do with nothing at all you feel
Starting point is 00:07:52 me right I'm a rapper I get paid to make music, you hear me? But it's people that's around. It's Tuka family. It's people that really love these people that people diss and that's really family that's people that's people that's really died on 63rd. Family died on 6030. They're going to let that shit slide, bro?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Right. It's no way around that. Because this is my thing is that, and I fuck with Fredel Bank, for the record. Yeah, you feel me? It was never no problem. Right. I never had a problem with buddy. I didn't know him.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I don't know him. But the thing is, is that if you're from Chicago, if you're from these neighborhoods, If you've been a part of these groups or whatever and you just kind of have to have beef with people, then I understand that. I understand that shit's not going to just change overnight. But if you're not from there and you're not associated with it,
Starting point is 00:08:36 we all, from the outside looking in, we're like, look at all these talented-ass young people who have fucking shot and killed each other. And it's a tragedy. Like, it's not something that we should be eager to take sides on. It's not a sporting event. It's not something that we should just be looking at like, oh, yeah, go this side because I like these rappers or whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:53 No, like regardless of what rappers you like the most, you should be able to look at this shit in Chicago and say, this shit is poison. And I understand how some people have to take these, their enemies and who they have problems, but they have to take that shit to the grave because there's just no getting over it at a certain point when enough people have been killed.
Starting point is 00:09:13 But as people on the outside of that, I think it's kind of a responsibility to not hype that shit up. And I mean, wearing the merch is wearing the merch because it is like you're just wearing the hoodie of your friend or some of your friend or somebody you were cool with or whatever. So I get that.
Starting point is 00:09:25 But even just saying 63rd, whatever, after like so many lives have been lost over this, is to me as an outsider, it's like you just shouldn't be hyping that shit up. It's to just be cordial, bro. Like, for instance, bro, 21 Savage. 21 Savage got on the slide remix with Duck. We went to Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I was dealt when he recorded the song with 21, all that. You feel me? Right. 21 Savage is a street, nigga. You see 21 Savage. What he's just do? He just bought buddy's sister, a cop
Starting point is 00:09:55 or some shit like that. I just seen it. Some shit like that. True, true. You feel me? That's a real street, nigga, bro. He didn't pick size. When we were in the studio with that man,
Starting point is 00:10:03 he didn't speak down on now one of them boys at all. He didn't talk about them boys at all, nothing at all. You feel me? Like, so I think when he around him, I expect him to do the same thing, which I think is true
Starting point is 00:10:13 because he ain't damn wrong, you feel me? Right. Cardi B. I got a song with Cardi B. You feel me? Because you guys were homies back in the day. That's my dog. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:10:22 Okay. Cardi B. She know what's going on. She know exactly what's going on. It's my dog, you feel me? Like, she's been, she's been with us since 2012 down there. You feel me, bro? Like, she knows exactly what's going on.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Is she going to put herself in this shit? No, she's a business woman. Right. If she has a song and she needs Liddark on a song with her, she's going to make that happen and it's going to get done. And we ain't going to do nothing but respect that and help her push her song because that's my sister. And that's what she do.
Starting point is 00:10:51 You feel me? She showed me love. I show her love. She don't pick no sides. She don't do none. 21 Sivvich didn't pick no sides. He didn't do none. He kept it cordial.
Starting point is 00:10:58 He fucked with Vonn. He fucked with Duck. Real street niggas, no real street niggas. And it's just mutual love. You feel me? Do you assume or think that behind the scenes that 21 got shit from people for working with Duck?
Starting point is 00:11:10 Like, that that animosity was so strong that I'm sure somebody might have said something to him. Of course, because I didn't work with a lot of artists. I got songs with A Buggy, Soldier Boy. I got songs with a lot of people, bro. Cardi B. A lot of motherfuckers, bro. like and a lot of
Starting point is 00:11:25 motherfuckers would be saying like little shit like oh stay away from them guys they'll rob you stay away from them guys they're the ops stay away from them guys because even if it's not the artist it's going to be the fans saying that shit in the DMs right in the comments and that's come back to
Starting point is 00:11:38 I'm going to say that too when we talk about the Fredo Wayne incident when I posted that shit about like I posted that and said something about it I got attacked by all the fans like I was wrong for posting some defending my dad, brother, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:11:54 Right. So the fans need to, like, come and realize, like, y'all don't know what the fuck is going on, bro. So why is y'all on my, y'all? And then it's all this nigga fans because he was talking this shit too, you feel me, he was talking this shit, poppin this shit. So it's all his fans on my page talking shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Now, I run into one of y'all, and something happened to anybody, something to happen to me, some happened to me, like, what's all this for over someone you don't know, you don't know me, you don't know that man at all. fans will, the internet will really fuck up a lot of shit, bro. We get a lot of people hurt, bro, like innocent people and a lot of people that got a lot
Starting point is 00:12:31 going on. You feel me, bro? Like, I don't know, bro. That shit just be crazy. I don't even know, bro. Right. I mean, like, okay, this is a question. So you kind of, like, got into making music in part because you felt like there were people
Starting point is 00:12:43 dissing you and your side and all that. How much of that was like the, did that, like the whole conflict when people talk about just O'Block and 63. which is obviously like a simplification of all these different people who have problems with each other and stuff. Has that become like infinitely more solidified as the main rivalry through the music? Or was that already kind of the case prior? No, it came. That came with it. That's how it started. So that's how we came out through the door.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Like I said, Duck first song, he was dissing someone from Sixth Senate. But was it something that might not have been such a big deal for such a long time? Or was it already going to stay? No, it was already that. Before the music, that's what the real don't know. The world don't know this. People think that this shit just happened because we were dissing each other through music. No, we got homies that's in jail and that's dead way before the music from each side.
Starting point is 00:13:31 The music is just how people started watching and becoming basically fans of watching this unfold. That's it, bro. And DJ academics put that light on us and made us a fucking episode, bro. Like, YBN, Almighty Jay, shout out my boy, you feel me? I talk to his people. He said something on game, you feel me? about, um, Tuka, he was playing a game and shit, you feel me, woo-woo, but when I talked to him on the phone, bro,
Starting point is 00:13:57 I say, I think he posted this shit, too, like, I think he posted the two, like, I think he posted the two below the phone, right? He basically said it in. Yeah, but when he said, he was saying, they was playing a game, and on the game, they're playing O Block versus St. Lawrence. So in GTA, that's the teams that they have in the game? Exactly what I'm saying, Adam.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Wow. So all I like, this is my life, my everyday life, that I live. I wake up to it. I got to worry about getting killed. I got to worry about protecting my family. I got to worry about somebody. I got to worry about the police.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I got to worry about all this shit. My life, our life, it's a game. Right. People treating it like it's fucking Game of Thrones or wrestling or some shit. It's a game, bro. I put up a little post and said something about Almighty J.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Bro, like, yeah, when I see you, I'm going to do something. You feel me? I talk to his people. His people, they're the big games that you feel in the time. You feel in me down. and text you feel
Starting point is 00:14:52 my boy didn't rap a lot right we took care of that you feel me I was just mad at the moment so I said what I said and like he said he was in the game so he just said what he said the moment too you feel me but all that shit
Starting point is 00:15:04 all that shit squashed is good you feel me there ain't none but that just makes everyone thinks like this shit is a game so they don't know that it come before the music the music just
Starting point is 00:15:18 the music helped us it saved us bro The music saved I ain't gonna lie If I want to rap I definitely would be dead Or in jail Right right now bro
Starting point is 00:15:26 Right You feel me like That's 100% If I wasn't rapping I would be dead or in jail Right now Because that's the only thing That was guiding you
Starting point is 00:15:33 Away from the fuck shit Kept me in the studio Oh I want to shoot a video Oh fuck let's hit the road Duck Don't want to leave This was Duck They never want to leave
Starting point is 00:15:42 Chicago bro I used to have to make Duck leave though like Duck first time Going to New York Was on my birthday I think 2014. I told him we finished
Starting point is 00:15:52 shoot a video live song. Like, just come on. Pick them up, took him to the airport. He, what the fuck is we going? His first time on the plane went to New York. You feel me? I used to hit the role. That's just me. I like to see shit. You feel me? Like, I'm doing music, so now I got an opportunity to see the world now. People know who I am. Everywhere I go, I might not be 21 Savage. I might not be Cardi B. I might not be now and what I know. But everywhere I go,
Starting point is 00:16:18 every city, every state, someone going to know who billion that black is. That's a fact because I know this because I've been damn there everywhere. You feel me? Right. So with that being said, people need to stop playing like this shit a game, bro, because this is real life. I don't know, bro. Yeah, it's crazy because, I mean, even in, like, the heat of the Warren Shirek sort of period
Starting point is 00:16:44 where everybody sort of had the conversation of like, okay, and I think academics, to his credit, he sort of changed his content a lot. I think he realized that maybe he was being a little bit too flippant with how he was talking about the beefs out there and everything. And he sort of like moved away from that with his content. I think in reality, he just got too big to be talking about stuff that was just sort of smaller street shit,
Starting point is 00:17:06 you know? But it feels like in a way a lot of that stuff has almost even gotten worse recently just in terms of like people talking about dead people and all this stuff. Like where do you see it going from here though? Like, do you see it getting better? And what has to happen for it to get better? It'll never get better. You hear me?
Starting point is 00:17:23 No. It'll never. And it's depressing. Have I been to Chicago? Yeah. When you get off Chicago, it's gloomy as fuck, bro. When you get off the plane in Chicago, it's gloomy. When I got off to plane in Chicago, my mother, my mother meet me at the airport with my gun, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Wow. You feel me? Like, my mother pulls up with a gun just so we safe. Like, you feel me? So it's like In terms of It getting better But like
Starting point is 00:17:59 I mean you left You decided Yeah I left I live in Arizona Right So what was that decision like And when did you move there? I moved there like five years ago
Starting point is 00:18:08 Okay That's because I was just Ready to get the fuck out Chicago You feel me? Right Like me and yellow King Yellow From my boy Ken Yeller
Starting point is 00:18:14 Ken Yeller Can Yeller move to Vegas And I moved to Arizona You feel Right You feel me And I called a case in Arizona I got locked up
Starting point is 00:18:21 Okay I'm on probation out there So how many years did you do? I only did a year. Oh, okay. But I was still, like, low-key before that because I was still fighting the case for, like, two years, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:18:30 Right. So I was just low standing out of the way, you feel me? But what prompt do you actually move out of Chicago, though? Was it, like... It was just... And what makes you different than Duck who never wanted to leave? Duck is always... I ain't the goofy-ass nigger.
Starting point is 00:18:42 It's a prior thing with Duck. I can put my pride to the side. You feel me, sometimes. You feel me? Like, I can think, I can sit down to really think and analyze shit. Duck has a pride issue So duck, like, I'm not the goofy-ass niggas
Starting point is 00:18:56 Niggas, I'm not going to get signed and leave, I'm doing this And then he got a lot of responsibilities at home He took care of everybody, you feel me? He took care of me, his family, you feel me? Everybody, you feel me? Like, this was a person to put food on the table for everyone, you feel me? So he can't take everybody with him to go, so he's going to stay here
Starting point is 00:19:15 And he's going to make sure everybody's great But I stretched it a million times Like, sometimes you got to go You can't do it And everybody say that You gotta leave some people sometime And get to the top, bro. Like, you can always come back, bro,
Starting point is 00:19:29 but everybody can't go at that moment. But it was always a prior thing with Doug And like I said, it's a meme going around on Instagram I know if you've seen it. It was like when Doug died, it was like he was the only guy to move through the city without
Starting point is 00:19:45 no security, none of that and be safe. Like, everybody else needs security, this and that they wouldn't do it this and that it was like come back to the pride thing the internet
Starting point is 00:19:59 make you feel like you just untouchable but in reality everybody is touchable you pose to have security right you pose to whether it's your brother with his gun or whether it's a license security
Starting point is 00:20:13 you feel me you pose to have security right Doug didn't want to do none of that he fucked that I'm staying here bro I go out when I want to go out This and that if anything I'm about a block and build some on a block type
Starting point is 00:20:26 shit that's that's what Doug was right He was one of them yeah he was a provider Bro Did you ever try to convince him to move to Arizona like A million fucking time has him I didn't even I'll say about that later but yeah A million fucking times yeah right What were you going to say where you're in?
Starting point is 00:20:40 No that's about to see that it's a person's something I'm saying okay but he Like I mean What do you lose in terms of when you make the move to somebody like Arizona or somewhere like Arizona, do you feel like that affects how the fans are willing to engage with your shit? Because there are a certain percentage of fans that really want to see you posted up on the block.
Starting point is 00:20:59 They really actually, like a lot of what they probably were attracted to about you and Doug and shit is the idea that these guys are really out here on the corner doing a video in an area where you know that there's people that want to take your life, right? Yeah, we're chilling where they ain't safe. And I get ate up about that every day on Instagram. Oh, your homie died and you moved to Arizona, which I told you I've been living in Arizona for five years, but the internet knows everything, you feel
Starting point is 00:21:23 me, so I get at about the day day, oh, you in Arizona, you ain't doing nothing for your amaz, you ain't go slide for your amaz, you didn't do nothing for Duck, oh, why you wasn't with Duck when he was there, why you, do you want me to go get my gun, go live, and say, hey,
Starting point is 00:21:38 y'all, get a million people on here, I'm going to kill somebody. What the fuck? That's really what they want you to do, though. That's exactly what they want me to do, bro, like. Yeah. So, I don't be fucking with that shit, bro. Like, I can't, I ain't no block, nigga. I have my days on the block. On the, what we was doing on the block, we wasn't getting no money. We was gang bang. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:57 In Chicago, it's two different sides. Southside and the west side, west side get money, south side game, man. Right. We out there out there, eight hours on the block trying to kill somebody. I ain't making a dollar. Right. You feel me? Like, this what we do as kids, bro. This was our, this was fun for kids in Chicago, bro. Right. At the age of 16 and 17, this was our fun. That was always just sort of how you grew up.
Starting point is 00:22:18 up that you just knew that as being normal. Like you didn't try to go be good at sports. You didn't go to the skate park. I had no hoot dreams. Right. I couldn't play ball. I can't draw. I couldn't do shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Like, all I know how to do was game, bang, shoot dice. And then somebody dissed me and I got on a microphone and figure out how to talk some shit. Like, oh, I can get paid to talk shit. I don't even call myself a rapper. Right. That's what we, Doug didn't even say. Like, we just said like, bro, we just get paid to talk shit. We're not rappers, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:47 We get paid to talk shit. The reason we do this is because they disrespect us, so we got to let the world, let the world know the truth. Like, those niggas ain't like that. And I ain't come on here to diss nobody or none of that, you hear me? But your favorite rapper is not like that in real life. Like, we know these niggas personally. Like, they not like that. And I'm not saying I'm the toughest nigger around.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Like, oh, yeah, I'd have killed a million people. Whoa, I can't get touched. I'm not saying none of that at all. You hear me, Adam? At all. It's just these guys. that's in this industry, bro. It's not like that.
Starting point is 00:23:21 And they portray to be someone they ain't. And we just got to let the world know. Well, is it a situation where it's like, you know, the famous rappers essentially end up being sort of like the figureheads for what is actually happening from, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:35 teenagers a lot of times with nothing to lose. And then to the fans, it's kind of like they end up hyping this shit up when in reality it's like they expect you to go kill somebody when in reality, if anything is going to happen to someone, it's not going to be you. It's going to be some...
Starting point is 00:23:50 That's it. It's going to be a random. If something was to happen, if one of them was to get hurt right now while we're doing this interview, I have nothing to do with that. Everybody's going to come on our page and say, oh, y'all just got such and such.
Starting point is 00:24:06 The fans, the internet is toxic. That's it ain't right. That's right, bro. Do you think a lot of these killings and shit have basically been hyped up by the fans? You think the fans really have a lot of blaming it? Because a lot of times it's shit, that you could let go, but then you got the fans and the fan pages and everything,
Starting point is 00:24:22 hyping it up, so it's like you can't turn the other cheek. Right, like I said, all the time. My comments says it's crazy. You just follow my Instagram where you go take my comments. It's crazy the way they talk, so disrespectful, you feel me? Right. But the fans will get someone killed. It's a video on a Instagram, on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Me and King Yeller ran to 600 Breezy in the mall. Very familiar with us. how do we know he was in Vegas I post my location at the Velazio somewhere he post his location every fan that was on that follow me and him
Starting point is 00:25:00 inbox me and said Breezy is on the next hotel from you over Brick was with me R.P. Brick, that's Doug Brother he was with me too this is a real savage This is a...
Starting point is 00:25:13 So it was just you brick and yellow Me brick and yellow and Breezy was basically alone? Brie was alone at his alone. Okay. You feel me? We made Brick stay at the hotel.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Luckily, luckily we made Brick stay at the hotel. Really? Luckily, because the cops showed up and he's... No, because he just, it wouldn't have been none of that. It would have been, I'd be in jail,
Starting point is 00:25:34 we all would have been in jail. Like, it would have been way ugly. You feel like? Right. And Breezy know what's going on. I ain't get on here to dissim. He know what was going on at that moment, why he didn't get touched at that moment.
Starting point is 00:25:46 He knew everything would happen right there. But long story short, the fans, All that shit up, bro. Damn. I never thought of that one like that. On my dead brother, I can die right now.
Starting point is 00:25:56 The fans lined all that shit up. And we were just going to bat some shoes. And I said, what if we run to goofy-ass-briezee? This goof-faz-n-law walk past with an H-N-M bag. I'll say, Breezo. He turned around. He turned around. Oh, what the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:26:12 Check it out, Gute. He thought we was fans, so he got close. Uh-huh. Could it turned his ass to a ghost. You hear me? Uh-huh. But we in Las Vegas. It's not Chicago.
Starting point is 00:26:24 That was a crazy moment for anyone who observes this shit because it was kind of like, oh, shit, this is what happens when the two sides of Chicago run into each other and neither of them have guns. Or at least they're not acting like that. Right. If you know, you know. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:40 But you guys were like almost kind of like reconciling a little bit in that video because you are snagging hands and sort of like showing each other left. You feel? You feel like that? That's what I try to. I try to, like, bro, like, you're going to know if you don't get to know me, bro. I got a good heart.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Everybody who know me, they know that I got a good heart, bro. Like, I'm not a bad person. I don't fuck with people that they fuck with me or mine. You feel me? Like, I don't harm nobody that you come from me. I don't come for you. Let's you come from mine. That's it.
Starting point is 00:27:05 You feel me? Like, so I try to do shit like that. And when the video got out and all that shit, I went to jail and a nigger get on on Instagram talking crazy. Like, oh, they wanted to be my friend and take pictures. Like, bro, the video. right that who says something about a picture anything, bro, like, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:27:24 Like, you feel me? Like, but that's just some whole other shit, bro. That ain't even, uh, I ain't even get on here to get his goof out, nigga, no cloud on phone, no grave, but. But you haven't seen the sense or anything? Or, are you, does that, is there any, any possibility that that situation could ever be cooled off, like, between you and him, or is it always going to be issues whenever you guys see each other for the rest of your life?
Starting point is 00:27:44 I mean, yeah, it's over with, yeah, I know. Next time, it's a goal, like, that was just a legal pattern. You feel me? You in the mall, we in Los Vegas. That was Chicago, someone would have been hurt. Right. A hundred percent. If that was Chicago, someone would have been hurt.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Whether if it was us or him, someone would have got hurt. What was the case that you said that you caught in Arizona that got you locked up out there? Because it's like, that's interesting that you still ended up running into trouble out there. Um, uh, kidnapping the armed robbery. Really? Can we talk about it? You already got locked up for it, right? Yeah, we get like that.
Starting point is 00:28:19 What happened? Allegedly. I'm cool. I'm on probation for it. I got that shit cool. I was over with. I got some for that. They can't do shit to me.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Right. All right. If they can't do shit, then let's talk about. They just get like that. That's it. That's just told me. We just get like that. I'm saying, your favorite rapper
Starting point is 00:28:38 ain't really like that, bro. It's hard to leave your bad habits behind even when you move to the other side of the country. Yeah, because then you get over here and see palm trees and niggas walk around with 50 pounds all over. You're like, eat you feel me but that was just
Starting point is 00:28:53 that was five years ago bro I'm cool bro you feel right I caught that case and then they caught up with me and I just got locked up and got out my fucking boy triples in here
Starting point is 00:29:05 oh my fucking God what uh what's your life like in Arizona though and like I love Arizona life right because it's just so much more laid back and just less bullshit to deal with and yeah it's all love you feel me a lot of people
Starting point is 00:29:18 a lot of people um tapped in with me you feel me Arizona nice spot You feel me It's tucked off It's like And then it's in the middle
Starting point is 00:29:26 Between Cali and Vegas You feel me So I can go there You feel like Back and forth From that one already You feel me Like
Starting point is 00:29:32 And it's low On my house You feel me Niggas don't Niggas be out here Oh show me Your Drewby Show me your house
Starting point is 00:29:39 Right You hear me I hear you For real What What happened What? Yellow
Starting point is 00:29:44 Yeah Yeah Got a fucking Fed case Like It was Free fucking Free Cloud King
Starting point is 00:29:49 Yeah He's been in for how many And how much more does he look like yet? Yellow been there for like two years now. Okay. Two years? I think he got like a year left. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I'm calling him. But yellow caught a fair case, you know, damn, Adam, you can't really talk about this shit. It's cool, man. No, I got shit down with Cardi, bro. Yeller, you remember that shit? Like, Yellow had some with Cardi. I remember, Cardi, my sister, love, like,
Starting point is 00:30:13 Wayne, don't know this about her. This ain't this on her. Nah. He had something going on. And he said that they said that they posed had a show in Vegas, not her. The Migo's post had the show in Vegas. And Yellow was on Instagram
Starting point is 00:30:28 doing a whole bunch of cap, you feel me, with his guns, and the police pulled him all with his guns and shit. Like, oh, you was on Instagram, I'm saying, you're going to go do this to the gentleman and that. You know, they got the hip-hop police in Vegas and shit. Really? In Vegas, too. Yeah, for real, for real. Like, I ain't never seen that
Starting point is 00:30:44 shit until I went to Vegas. Wow. Like, I'm like, whoa, that shit is crazy. Damn, so he actually got caught up for that, because I remember that was the last time really saw a lot of yellow was when he was like yelling into his phone getting pissed off at offset and all that. Yeah, on the Jeep. It's a video on YouTube. The police pull him over. It's their
Starting point is 00:31:00 body cam footage. Right. He had the gun stuck in his dick. Like, they searched him, they feel and let him go. Then another cop pull up and they're like, hold on me search him again. And double back and found a gun in this dick and shit. Wow. He's like, motherfucker, and he's like, and he got out on house arrest and then there's some
Starting point is 00:31:18 other shit and got locked up. As somebody who knew Card even back in the day, though, Did you feel like that whole situation? Did it get too disrespectful of Cardi and offset? No, it ain't got, no, they ain't, it was yellow. They ain't, they ain't do shit. They weren't really saying, love. Offset, I was telling offside call a yellow phone.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Like, Offset calls him on some players shit. Yellow just get reckless. That's just yellow, you feel me? Right. It ain't, they ain't, they was cool. I talked to her soon that shit happened. Like, soon as they got him doing that goofy shit, I instantly hit up. Like, look, I'm gonna holl that on woo she.
Starting point is 00:31:50 His ass tweaking, bro. Like, I ain't tripping on him, but his ass just tweaking. Right. Yeah, you feel me. Is that crazy? Like, I've seen a lot of people that I knew become, you know, really famous, but, I mean, she reached, like, mega celebrity status and you knew her when she was more or less a regular chick, right? Oh, like, I sang, she surely do it.
Starting point is 00:32:09 She did it. Did you think that she had that kind of potential back then? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. She always, because it's her energy, bro. It's like Dex. You know, Dex's from My Hood. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:20 You know, I'm the first song Dex ever was. got is with me. Really? I didn't know it. Yeah. That's crazy. Thanks. Let's go to watch some old interviews with Dex. Yeah, a billionaire, yeah, I just sleep on a billionaire couch. Thanks, I didn't disrespect. We just be saying, like, that's my man. I just sleep on a billion that couch. He's the one I saw me rapping. You feel me? Like, everything Dex knows come from me. He called me pops. We talked to Dex ask me. Right. Every time. I'm from him. That's crazy. Every other day. How do you, okay, so explain to us how you guys came to know Cardian shit?
Starting point is 00:32:49 Because there's a lot of fans who want to paint it as being some weird shit where she was just like a fan or whatever. Like what was the context of how you guys all became cool? Tommy G's. Tommy G's is Cardi X. Man, remember the dude that's just being in love and hip-outes in jail? Right. Okay. That's our homie.
Starting point is 00:33:07 And Papa Rossi Poe. Papa Rossi Poe is Tommy G's man. Like, they're best friends. I, they pay Yellow for a feature. Yellow went out there. Okay. Yellow did a song in a video with Papa Rossi Paul and Tommy G's. They lost the video.
Starting point is 00:33:23 The video never got dropped. On the G. Carter was just a scribble back then, I think. You feel it me? She was just on the block. But she was still paked up, freshest hill, like, New Pellion. Like, she still looked like, like, she has now. You feel me? She was doing what she was doing.
Starting point is 00:33:38 But we met up with them through that. And then she came to Chicago, she had a show. And she used to post... I had a song called Costa Rica. I don't know if you ever heard. Like, I'm fresh from Costa Rica. Right. I'm in my connection, Costa Rica.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I got something like that. She used to always post that on her story all the time. Right. So when she said she had a show in Chicago, she's like, she, by herself, is just her and pole. She's like, I need somebody to go with him to the show, you feel me? So she hit us up. She sent pole to the block, drop off on the block.
Starting point is 00:34:05 He can whatever with all this chains on this shit. You feel me? Like, little folks are ready to eat on his ass. I'm like, no, boy, y'all are tributt, bro. This is how people. We got to be cool. Like, you feel it? Like, I get post some.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Pol got this thing. It's going to be good. Long story, show we go to the club. Get it busing, you feel me? She clicked with me, you feel me? It's just like, she felt the bro vibe. I felt the sub-vive. That's all that was. As soon as I hit New York,
Starting point is 00:34:27 every time I was in New York, she called me, where you at, pull up to the studio, this and that. We get it in, just like that. That's what I'm. That's real love. You feel me? Like, I ain't got to reach out a million times when I did the song when I did the song in the video. I ain't had to go run around and look for
Starting point is 00:34:43 a nod. I hit her one time. She sent me location, just like that. Right. You feel me like, they'll get video the next day. How do you feel about Dex and his whole, everything that we've seen happen with him, whether you've been going to rehab lately,
Starting point is 00:34:57 and we've seen him kind of, you know, it feels like he kind of had like a lot of, like he was like an energy rapper. He used to say that he was making energy music when he first came out. And then it kind of sucks. It's like the shitty thing about seeing somebody get too deep into the drugs is that
Starting point is 00:35:11 like the energy kind of goes away at a certain point, right? Yeah, you know, Dex, decks always had that energy. He's going to get over of it. Everybody had their downs, you know, a lot of people got to stick going on in their life that they don't speak on. You feel me? Right. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:35:25 He just probably keep a lot of shit to himself right now. Yeah. And everybody would be saying, like, go talk to him. Maybe he don't want to talk to people. Sometimes I just had life go. I'll be feeling that way myself. You feel me? Like, sometimes you get lost in them drugs, for real, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:38 But he'll get over. I know, Dex, he's strong. You feel like, that's a good kid. It is crazy because it's like we've seen so many people losing. their lives to just violence and then the other side of it is the drugs that we just seem way too many talented people like just end up basically sacrificing themselves at a certain point by just getting too deep into that shit that should be crazy that's why i'd be just staying on a drink here and now you feel me i always smoke a little weed i don't do no extra i do pop a little yurks saying
Starting point is 00:36:08 but i'd be cool you feel like that probably i've never heard a yurk before that's a There's a E-pill or something? No, no, that's a per cent. Oh, okay. Yerks, you feel me? All right. Yeah, I feel you. All right, so I wanted to ask this, though.
Starting point is 00:36:26 It's like, if you're talking to a kid from, like, your area where you grew up and shit, like, I feel like I always end up asking rappers with this question these days. But, like, how do you talk to them? And what kind of advice do you give them in terms of how to keep themselves, you know, safe and everything in terms of how to keep their respect, but then also how to stay away from all this bullshit that is basically just, like, set up to sabotage. any, like, young people in Chicago. I mean, Chicago,
Starting point is 00:36:50 Chicago kids is like, you can't really tell Chicago kids none. I was one of them, you feel me? I got four little brothers. I just lost one of my little brothers, you feel of me? Like, a month right before duck, I mean, right at the duck, you feel me? Like, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:37:04 So you can't tell them nothing. I can, I try to talk to the kids and tell them, like, bro, if you're going to do what you do, do it smart, you feel me? Like, this game shit ain't, ain't what it is. You feel me? I felt it out the hard way, you feel
Starting point is 00:37:18 me? Like, I never knew until I went to jail. I think this little Jay calling right here. I'm like, gee. I think I went to jail and fucking, count all that shit out, bro. But that gang, shit,
Starting point is 00:37:30 something, that shit ain't about nothing, you feel me? Because ain't nobody gonna do nothing for you, bro, when you're in there? You feel me? I don't have your family. You go kill somebody for a block. That block ain't gonna look out for you.
Starting point is 00:37:40 My mama told me the same thing. My dad told me the same thing. I found out the hard way. You feel me? And I ain't, and I grew up in a nice house. Like my mom and my father still together You feel me? I'm one of them kids out here just reckless like
Starting point is 00:37:53 They used to sit me down and talk to me but that shit was going at one year out the other you feel me like my daddy was a gangster for so you feel like he did what he did Right, but that shit still going one out the other than I got big cuz and then Us right now rather we big homies or not to the to the world we look like big homie just because we rappers bro Right you feel me on that block like like like St. Lawrence, they feel of St. Lawrence. That's because Duck from St. Lawrence to the world, he's debauched from St. Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Because he's the biggest rapper from over there. You feel me? Like, whether that's true or not, you feel me? Like, that's a weird thing about street shit nowadays is that just by, like, you know, wherever you were at prior to this, like, just by becoming a popular rapper, all of a sudden you get treated like you're a fucking mob boss,
Starting point is 00:38:42 right? Yeah, and then to the world you're portrayed as as this fucking leader, as this mob leader, like, that's the shit with Rallo. Me and my men, I'm just talking about this shit with Rallo. I think what they said, they have a sip of weed on Ralo, but they got him saying because he's a leader, that Rico act shit. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:38:57 Like, that shit crazy, bro. That's another reason for you, yeah, Chicago, too, is that it's just, you just being there and them knowing that you're associated with certain groups, it's only a matter of time so they can really put it all together and be like, hey, even if you weren't there when so-and-so got killed, you're in a music video saying that you're with this. Yeah. So, therefore, you're a part of it.
Starting point is 00:39:17 That shit crazy. I got the fuck about Chicago. Took my family with me. We got going, you feel me? And I was trying to get Doug. I'm doing the same thing. You feel me? They supposed to have been going to Atlanta, but they still stayed in Iraq for a second.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Right. I've seen people making videos about you basically saying that FBG is kind of falling apart ever since Doug died and that you're not allowed in certain neighborhoods and that you fell out with mad people. How do you feel about people saying that shit?
Starting point is 00:39:44 That's the internet, bro. That's what I'm saying. It's the internet. Like, I don't know, but from the outside looking at it, they would say that, you feel me, because they don't see everybody together right now. And then there was just a lot of walkie shit
Starting point is 00:39:56 going on with DuckDai. Like, people were saying, like, somebody said folks up, like, from our circle type shit. Right. But you feel me? That's just entering that shit. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:40:06 Like, I try to stay away from all the blogs and shit, because that's what gets me on them bitches, because once I see it, I'm going to respond. Once I know it's some boy shit or some false shit, I gotta speak on it like when buddy posts with the hoodie I speak on it when young and age post something about duck I speak on it because I feel like once I
Starting point is 00:40:27 see it I gotta say something so sometimes I gotta put my phone down like bro let me just stay the fuck off the internet for like a day or something but like right because every time I post something they gonna take it and they gonna put that shit up every time they ain't gonna talk about the good part they just gonna take the bad part of the video I just bought my whole mixtape or I just did a million views in two weeks, this and that. I just talked to all that. But at the end of the live, I said, oh, yeah. And buddy, you said something about my men. I'm going to fuck you up.
Starting point is 00:40:52 They ain't cut. Put none of the good part, though, though. It just cut that part and put the bad part what I'm talking about type of shit. You feel like that's why they get paid. They get mad. No, I see it. For sure. Do you, like, how do you feel about the media in general and the way that they treat all this?
Starting point is 00:41:11 Do you feel like with the way that, like, Instagram is sort of like propped up to, like, it's like these viral little chunks of like whether it's a tweet or an Instagram live or whatever it's like it's not just World Star or academics or no jumper at this point there's like hundreds of thousands of accounts who want to fucking find these little nuggets of content and man it should get some cloud by being able to like call it a thing like make a story out of it right like and I mean you guys get it worse than anybody like it's it kind of crazy living under that that that microscope because that shit it'd be fake a lot of this shit like they be making up And then when you watch the videos, like I got my role manager over that he said he watched the video earlier
Starting point is 00:41:51 He said that somebody was like, oh yeah, I'd be knowing people that's close to people in FBG. That's how I got my resource. Who the fuck you know? Tell me who the fuck you know. Who you get your resource from? Nobody know you fucking goofy. You're looking at these videos. Looked at the old ass niggas like, who you know?
Starting point is 00:42:08 You just making shit up, bro. Like y'all ass ain't probably never been through the hood, never on the block. I never seen you. What are you talking about? all the bloggers be thinking they're knowing something like and they'd be upcoming bloggers
Starting point is 00:42:22 you feel I mean that's why I can't really be mad because when I say something to them then I'm helping them you feel me like I'm help clouting their shit up right but when I be seeing this shit I'm like bro all this shit is just false
Starting point is 00:42:32 like you probably got that little part right but the rest of the shit you'd be saying it's false like they'd be saying that people killed this person have you seen this shit bro like they'd be really saying like this name like this person killed
Starting point is 00:42:45 this many years people from this side. How do you know this? I don't even know this. And I'm right there over there. Like, how do you know this? Right. And they, it's crazy man, like, because sometimes you can really find a video saying like, this person, this rapper killed this
Starting point is 00:43:00 many people and here's who they are. And a lot of it seems like it's kind of just based on the YouTube comments. I'm like the YouTube commenters think that so-and-so kill this guy. So I think it probably is safe to say he killed us. I remember that shit. What's buddy name from Florida?
Starting point is 00:43:16 One of the ex-X-X guy killed. They tried to say he killed him. Right. Soldier kid. Yeah, they tried to say he did. And don't focus off some comments. Fuck that man whole career up. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:43:25 Now people don't even want to fuck with him. You feel me? Like, and he was hard. Yeah. You feel me? Like, now niggas don't want to fuck with him because that bullshit, like, niggas saying that he killed X, you feel me? R-R-I-P-X, too, by the way.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Right. No, that's in peace for sure. But, yeah, I mean, no, that is crazy to see the way that it fucking happens like that. Let me ask you, though, do you feel like in particular, particular like the last couple years where the whole 63rd thing became a meme and shit do you feel like that motivated you like oh I can't give up on this rapping shit I gotta fucking go hard because you all of a sudden are like one of the main people representing that side of things right yeah that shit was funny when we at first yeah like
Starting point is 00:44:03 when at first we just laughing at this shit dunked up that shit was hilarious but like like oh you're from the o'ahoe will give me brain like a nerd bitch she got super mad when I said I'm from 63rd bitch. Like he made it the soul. Like he played with it too. You feel me? Like, all right. You gonna play with it?
Starting point is 00:44:22 I'm playing with it too. I'm gonna phone in him. You feel me? Like, so we just laughed at it, but Buddy gone, duck gone. So it's like
Starting point is 00:44:32 why y'all's steady speaking on the dead. I did what I said what I said about buddy when he passed away. You feel me? He always talked about all our dad, homies.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Right. You feel me? Like, he was just talking about my brother when he died. You feel me? Like, so, of course, Everybody said what they said, but it's over with leave it alone.
Starting point is 00:44:49 But to this day, niggas is still, I'm getting haz-what. I'm getting high as duck. He was just nice as hell, buddy. Right. Well, it seems like recently there's been more and more of a conversation about that where Sosa said that he wasn't going to be doing that anymore. And it ain't even Sosa. Sosa, that shocked us when we seen that.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Because Sosa's an OG by this point, you know. Yeah, you know. Yeah, he's feeling like. He's seen enough of it that I'm sure that he's not as. That shocked us. That's what we're saying. We were like, whoa, bro. We were like, it could be, you know, niggas be funny, too, you feel like,
Starting point is 00:45:20 niggas be funny, but it's still like, okay, we, okay, so do we hear you? We see it, we hear you, feel me like. But with Dirk and them, it felt like they kind of were going extra hard with it in recent times, even after Vondat. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:33 And I don't know what's to that. Yeah. Niggas just grew balls over night. I don't know what happened with that shit. I'm full of them. Niggas, I don't know. Niggas just sing it, nice and said. How do you feel about those?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Is it piss you off or is it just kind of, are you just so used to it at this point that it's just more of the same? It's, I'm used to it. It's still surreal to me that dugone, you feel me? So when I hear shit like that, it still don't really hit me hard because to me folks still hear like,
Starting point is 00:45:55 what, like what the fuck? Like, this is like another disc song. He got niggas dissing him already before he died, you feel me? Like, so to me it's just like another disc song somebody just dissed us. Like I got a fucking million disc song, nigga diss me, you feel like.
Starting point is 00:46:07 So to me it's just like another diss song, but when I really be in my, feelings, no day I get in my feelings, yeah, that shit gets people, you feel me, like, oh, we hear you playing that shit, yeah, we'll fuck you up, but don't play that shit around me, like, go play that shit in your headphone somewhere over that. Like, don't stand that shit about me, bro. And it's fucked up because people will get hurt from that shit, because music is, and it's just music, and it ain't even meant for people to get hurt because it's just music.
Starting point is 00:46:33 They like people's music. If you like good music, you like good music. They probably really like the song, you feel like me? Like, they have no intention to be in this. to me or a duck at all. They just like the song and they're rapping the lyrics. But if you're around one of us and you rap them on lyrics and you don't know if something happened to you,
Starting point is 00:46:51 it's like, that's fucked up. But is it like, I'm sure you've been in the situation when you're in the club and they're playing a song that this is your dead homies and you, everybody having a great time and ain't nobody thinking about. We flip, they don't play with me no more. I swear to God, they don't play with us no more. Even in Arizona they had to learn?
Starting point is 00:47:08 In Arizona, they don't play with me. They don't play with me. And I didn't respect to Arizona. like Arizona. They don't play with me. I had some Roger Rich in Arizona out there at the press room or some shit like that. Them boys ain't playing out one of them songs. Like, y'all, they can play
Starting point is 00:47:22 you can play for Nito, play all that shit. I have no problem. Like, with good music. As long as you don't play no songs saying, I'm smoking Tuka or I'm smoking this person. Like, I don't want to hear that shit, bro. That is respectful to me. Like, so that shit happened in the club. Anywhere, we're tearing a whole
Starting point is 00:47:39 DJ Bufat. Y'all want to fight. Y'all want to fight, we can fight, whatever. Don't disrespect us. Y'all know what's going on. That's why I have posted on Instagram. Like, with this duck shit, we ain't letting everybody get away with that shit. We let y'all get away with the Tuka shit because y'all thought it was a strand of weed. Everybody kept getting away with it.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Oh, I apologize. I thought it was a strand of weed. Oh, I thought it was this. Which I think it is a strand of weed. Not to be for real. I've really seen somebody selling some shit in the dispensary, like, and it had Tuka owner's shit. Like, so I don't really know, bro. So I'm like, okay, y'all don't get away with that.
Starting point is 00:48:12 But we're not gonna play with duck shit because y'all know who duck is. Right. When rappers get to posting that shit on their stories and all that, we're gonna take that to the heart because you know what you're doing, bro. Like out of the whole song,
Starting point is 00:48:25 you're gonna wait to post this part, I get highest duck. Why that part out of the whole song? You feel you me? That's that show like you have no good intentions at all. Right. And if it's that, just let us know, because niggas is niggas don't be,
Starting point is 00:48:38 in the industry, it's Yeah, and I, because I don't bite my tongue, you feel me? Right. I've been, I've been talking to a couple record labels right now, and they tell me I've got to clean my image up, you feel me? Like, I got too many guns in the videos. I don't have no guns in the videos at all. I'm a probation.
Starting point is 00:48:52 The label wants you to clean your image up and take the guns out of the video? Why are they holding you to this standard? I never heard of the label saying anything like that. If anything, they want you to drink more lean and have more guns in the video. They said, we look too dangerous, bro. Right. Clean the image up. Too many guns in the videos.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Stop saying names. You go listen. You don't listen to some disc songs. You don't listen to some of my diss song. You'm like, oh, yeah, this man, it's crazy. Because you have a Fredo-Bang diss song in the works, right? Hell no, I'm going to smack the shit out of Fredo-Ban when I see him. I ain't dissing him.
Starting point is 00:49:26 There's a lot of people, like, promoting, like, snippets of you in the studio and saying it's a Fredo-O-Bank diss song, no? No, no. Okay. That's just them making a narrative. Just trying to get a back end off of YouTube, you feel? You're trying to get a little quick back in it. You know, the clickbait is one thing, and the fake clickbait is a whole other thing.
Starting point is 00:49:45 I'm not saying I believe you necessarily, because I'm sure you do have songs where you're going to be sort of alluding to Fredo Bang, but... No, I ain't going to say that about Fredo Bang, because there ain't no op, you feel like. That's why I be saying, nigs, and they say, you want to diss him for some clout. If I ain't got this in fun, we got clout already,
Starting point is 00:50:00 I ain't read about that shit. But if I want to diss somebody for some clod, just go diss my ops. People that really did stuff to us, then that we did stuff too. You feel me? Like, why would I go diss something like I don't know? That's chasing it, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:50:12 But you don't feel like somebody like Fredo or like Poo Shisty? I mean, they're all kind of clicking up. There's like a whole little world of your ops clicking up with all these other popper rappers, right? I talk, because there's a lot going on too. On my end, too, you feel me? Like, I don't know if, you know, Black Sheep Herman is young boy people. That's my boy. I talk to Herm all the time.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Okay. You feel me? Like, on Poo Shisitin' them ops, but EBG, I talk to them all the time. So you see, I did. shit working it you got this shit working I do yeah this shit is going like niggas is gal gonna play this click up game mm-hmm we ain't on no clicking up shit we're just gonna tap in make sure everything everything everything like right and we're gonna be running around saying all 4k trade FBG no we're gonna be
Starting point is 00:50:56 saying none of that you feel me like right no we just gonna we locked in you feel me like you know what I know we good I right that's it yeah if you put out a video with Cuando Rondo it's gonna be kind of weird to me honest with you I don't know, Conorando, I'm crazy. That's, confused. You think he's crazy? Why you say that? Because he was just saying, fuck us.
Starting point is 00:51:13 We're dirty, some shit. He's talking about you guys, too? He's on the video with Vaughn. Oh, okay. Before that shit happened with Vaughn. But he's cool. And it's cool. There ain't no smoke.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I talked to Herman. I'm from the man on smoke. You know what I was saying? He was going to video with Von getting that fuck 63. Before they had issues. Yeah. Okay, right. And then he just did a song, Nass and 63 shots up in my duck,
Starting point is 00:51:35 like I knew Duck. Oh, wow. Like, you feel me? So shout out him for that, you feel him? So could you be cool with him at a certain point? You think you could smooth shit over? That was just back him and buddy here around buddying them. A lot of niggas do this.
Starting point is 00:51:48 A lot of niggas go around buddy and see that they ain't like that. And fall out with them niggas. This ain't the first time this shit happened. Right. A lot of niggas, the nigger, Popp Rossi Pohar. I know Cardi B. He used to be around them niggas and think they weren't like that. And came around us and seen what was going on.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Like, oh, this is what's really going on? like, oh, okay. You feel like, so. Do you feel still like blacklisted or blackballed by like people in the industry and shit, though? You still feel like that 100%? Yeah, so. Right. But at this point, it don't really matter no more because the way the internet set up,
Starting point is 00:52:24 if you flood them, they can't beat you. Right. They can't beat you. If you got a strong team, they can't beat you. You don't need no labor. You can do it independently. You feel me? Like, all that shit, you can.
Starting point is 00:52:36 they can't beat you, bro. Yeah, I mean, you can kind of like make yourself hot in a way now that wasn't really possible at certain points. Yeah, like back then they said to go to the labels with demos, all that weird shit. You can be a nobody record yourself in your bedroom and drop a song to be a million at the next morning. How that shit worked out of nothing. Yeah, no, I mean, it's kind of, it's kind of dope to see, like, that you're just able to,
Starting point is 00:53:00 like, just seeing so many of your videos doing so well lately and realizing that it's just you, like, just making better music or just Getting your own shit hot. I mean, that's kind of remarkable. I appreciate it, my boy. I'm following them. I'm trying to switch it up and feed them. I'm trying to stay consistent.
Starting point is 00:53:14 I got my own label coming right now, a couple of artists and shit. You feel me? A distortion gang, you feel me? And we just work. We're from a drop a tape. I'm feeling of... Poor, I'm trying to drop every week.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Just keep going. And then I got to keep Duckpage alive, too. You feel me, for his mama, too. So I'll drop a video here and there on his YouTube page. So some revenue coming on that still. keep it going. Right. Do you think it's important that somebody like Duck's mom is kind of becoming more of a public figure
Starting point is 00:53:41 and doing podcasts, doing like having the conversation, really like putting a face behind the pain that she's going through right now. How do you feel about that? It's like kind of a new development. Yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good. I love she doing that. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:53:55 She got a voice that need to be heard, you feel me? Then she needs to speak. You feel, you need to bring her on here once if you want to do, you feel like, because that there's a lot going on on. She's going to speak our mind, bro. Like, and she's going to bring everybody else. Mama, true Tuka, Mama, everybody. Y'all, you could just probably speak,
Starting point is 00:54:09 do the whole podcast with all of them like she'd be having with them. You feel me? Yeah. I think I'm going to go to Chicago. We were talking about it, yeah. Yeah, yeah, get that's the guy. That'd be nice. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:54:19 No, I mean, seeing Tuka's mom becoming, like, a public figure in a way, too, and just seeing her pain from having to hear all this shit about her kid, all these years later. I mean, that's kind of crazy, too. But I think it's powerful, honestly. I think it's probably a good thing for people to be more familiar with these types of things. Yeah, it's just that. We never had this platform, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:54:38 Like you said, I embossed through 2018. You didn't see it. I hate that. I'm on your ass. I don't know. It hurts. But no. 2018, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:54:48 Like, we never had a platform to really protect our voice, you feel me? So now we have the platform, the name, to speak on shit, bro. The world can really see shit for what it is. I'm like, okay, these guys ain't just... This is a bad person that is. The mayor of Chicago said basically made it seem like duck with this bad guy
Starting point is 00:55:10 and look dirt in with the good guys. Right. Lori Lightfoot. She's a hop now? Hell, no. Why do I know her name? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:20 She was just in the news so much during the fucking process and everything that I just got familiar. I will most. They got so many memes of ass. That's hilarious. Yeah, you know. She's a wild one, man.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Yeah. Okay, let's change this up a little bit. Shout out my boy Rizzo Rizzo. What the hell happened with this whole situation, man? Let's talk about this. Come on. It's Thornton game ain't gonna build. Shout out my boy,
Starting point is 00:55:44 mellow. Shout out Tug, shout out Billy. So how's the story start? You were supposed to do a feature together? Man, look, mine. I'm gonna talk like how they talk for a shit show, mine. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Hold on. Y'all be cool. No, look. Buddy came in a desert flex with all this jewelry. You feel me? And I hit him up, I ain't gonna lie, I hit him up on some, yo, what's you on, gang, he responds, what's you on, skitter, skirler, um, shit, cool, and let's knock something out.
Starting point is 00:56:18 The nigger say, yeah, give me $2,000 for a verse, $2,000. That ain't no money at all that I don't want. 2,000. You know what you're talking to, folks? I got someone with Cardi Biali people that I just ain't, I ain't pay for none of this. Right. None of this, you know, you're doing? You know you're talking to you, bro?
Starting point is 00:56:33 Yeah, well, I'm gonna call you, he called me, he got my, my little bitch with him from Atlanta. Yeah, I got one of your little holes with me. She got a shirt. I only know who he's time about him. Oh, yeah. I'm going to meet you at the studio. Met him at the studio, and that was it.
Starting point is 00:56:46 His ass was on ice. Full of them great. So you were offended by him asking for money for the birds, but you were like, let's link up. No, no, no. No, no. The reason behind it is because they know what's going on. Shout out sauce off.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Right. Ooh, we, they're doing my shit. But he had some shit to say about you after all. all this, right? No, he was on that bitch playing my song, rapping word for work. Woke up, sleep, walking all this blue rocks, you know?
Starting point is 00:57:12 Right. You hear me? Word for word. I talked to Saltzwagon, though. I told him in one of disrespect, you feel him. It was just, they go back to that street shit.
Starting point is 00:57:22 They signed, they signed somebody that'd be saying fuck my homies. I ain't going to say buddy name, whatever. They signed somebody who be saying, fuck my homies.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Somebody that hasn't been named in this conversation yet? Yeah, I ain't going to say his name. Okay. They're going to say it in the comments. Y'all dropped in the comments. This will be the comments for you. Dropping in the comments.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Y'all know buddy named. We took his shit because he signed him and buddy be dissing my homie now. Now, it comes down to why y'all ain't just take buddy chain then, you feel me? Because if we would have took his chain, it still would have been a TSF chain, too. So either way it go, we still would have to talk to you either way to go, bro. Right. It would have been a problem either way to go. If we would have took this chain off buddy neck, it would have been a TSF chain too.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Right. So either way it go, it still would have been a problem with you child. So why not just kill two birds with one stone, just take it his shit down and then catch somebody to take this shit too? I wish that we had the comments so I could see. Who was it? Was it peso Pesa Pesa? No. No? No.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Sauce Brazy? I'm trying to think of who else was signed to TSF. Did I guess it? He's from Detroit, bro. He is? Okay. He's from Detroit, bro. Oh, is it from Detroit, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Oh, he's from Detroit, bro. But so then, all right, what happens after this? And how did Rizzo leave? And how did this hit the neck? He left like, ah! I was such a little bitcher of some point in your shit. Oh, shit. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Hey, Adam, you bogus for this question. I got to ask this question. It's all over the internet, man. He's going to be mad at him. How did he hit the kid? Say teen, the whole child cop interview with him, right? Right. And this nigga on his interview line, Tom Bossum,
Starting point is 00:59:28 he had on some other, some other bracelet and some other. I mean, oh, I had this on and they ain't take it. Sauce Walker must know his ass with cap, but saucewalking right in the video, got the talking. Ooh, yeah, yeah, we got all the trip. This is that.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Ooh, woo. Say your men, because it's ass line. You know it doesn't have nothing to that jewelry on a photo grade because we would have took all that shit on photo grade. But back to, like I said, shout out saucewalka. Bitch, you know I love you. You know our history.
Starting point is 00:59:56 You know you from the rack. You know you from your other blog. You know how we're walking with y'all, bro. you just did what you did was wrong. We had the conversation. He said he ain't know. Saul Walker said he ain't nobody he was this and us, this and that.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Well, you should have knew because everybody else knows. So that's it. And I told him, bro, I look up to Salt Walker. Right. I'm trying to start my label. I feel me. He put all those niggas on, put chain.
Starting point is 01:00:25 He broke dirty-ass boy a car. On phone number, he broke as a car. He's doing his thing. That boy, that boy alleged, you feel me? No label, he'd a label. How did the internet end up finding out about this Rizzo situation, though? Because they ain't want to pay for a back. You went right to that?
Starting point is 01:00:45 Hell no. Like, oh, if you want a bag, you could pay. Oh, no, look, Sauce Walker hit me up and said, bro, you know he's better than this. I talked to Sauce for a couple hours. I'm bro, yeah, you're right. You feel him? Because I know Sauce, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:00:58 He's from King Yellow Block, you feel like, they all grew up together with that, you feel me? So I know sauce. So I'm like, you're right, bro, you're right, bro. And I told him, like I'm telling you, there ain't no disrespect to your brand, none of that, you feel me? There's like no bitch shit. This is me being a man, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:01:12 So, your man's can buy back. Just give us a dub for that bitch. He said, man, my older brother, got $2,000 on here, bro. Oh, damn, that's fucked up. I said, I get y'all two weeks, bro. Two weeks went by and ain't said no cheese. My awful is just post them, bitches. I got artists.
Starting point is 01:01:33 You know, come on, you know how this shit go, Adam. I got artists that I'm working with right now I'm building. Right. Two guns, Dizzy with the Gleazy. Millie, you feel it? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I got artists on building right now. What's the cheat coding this shit? Robbing somebody, I guess. Take a little chain that you're going by right or wrong. I mean, I've seen it happen. You, right or wrong. So look, I'm just taking it on some personal shit.
Starting point is 01:02:00 You feel? This isn't personal. This ain't in the internet at all. Right. My artist's, though, getting that. Fuck that bitch. We're going to post this bitch right now. We're going to go fire.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Why they my shit? You feel me? It's a move. At the end of the day, it's still a business move. Whether it's cloud chasing, whatever you want to call it, it's still a business move. You're going to get revenue. Whether they hate it or they like it,
Starting point is 01:02:19 you're going to get revenue behind it. You're going to get exposure from this. Everyone will know what's going on. Even if my face, if they would just took it their self, you would have been interviewing him right here by itself. Like, oh, yeah, what happened to the real? All right.
Starting point is 01:02:31 You feel? Because it would have been so big. So, no, I ain't go to the internet That's what everybody be thinking This is just, I'm my internet, nigga I'm not one of them internet, niggas, I respond When somebody comes from me, like I said, bro, they come from me That's when I say something. I don't go to the internet
Starting point is 01:02:46 I talked to Salt Walker They didn't send the money, two weeks went back Nobody, only person knew about it was us And who knew and they didn't. Right They had niggas calling me from Texas, everybody calling me from everywhere, trying to get it back, for free like boy y'all know ain't shit for free is there security camera footage from inside
Starting point is 01:03:08 the studio yes sir and that hasn't been put out no it because i saw one screenshot of it but i didn't see the full like they were teasing putting out the full clip i mean that would be pretty i mean again i'm cool with riso so i don't want to see any bad having to him but that would be pretty crazy if that footage came out that'd be crazy what it yeah and he got on an interview we're saying I said drop it. What happened that next hour? It was a pitch of the footage of that nigga. He was at home shitting on this stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Like, please don't drop this pit, bro. Please don't drop it. Jeez. But we ain't gonna drop no shit like that. That's police to sell. Yeah, that's I was thinking. I'm like, if you want to stay out of trouble, it's probably bad idea, right?
Starting point is 01:03:50 I didn't do not tell him. Right. They won't be, they don't even show me in the, in the fucking video. Right. It just showed him and somebody still on the couch. Yeah, it was weird how even that just seemed like, oh, no.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Like, they got video. video footage of it. They got one angle, they probably got the rest of it. Damn. You know your notes. Crazy. What else you got going on? Anything else we need to know about? Anybody else you got beef with that I'm not thinking about? I ain't got beef, nobody. Look, I'm the nicest guy. Yeah, you're a nice guy, yeah. You fuck with me. I fuck with you. I like my head to you. I don't come. I ain't coming over bullshit. I say, hey there,
Starting point is 01:04:23 everybody. I speak. I'm a cool guy. I'm a cool guy. I'm very interested to see who hits me up. I can't believe you interviewed that guy. You know they're coming. But nobody, Nobody actually hit me up about the Ruga one, but I saw so many comments from the fans acting like, oh, you're going to be in so much, I'm like, I think everybody understands that I do interviews. I'm not taking anybody's side.
Starting point is 01:04:45 When you say something bad about somebody, I'm just kind of like, okay, I'm going to let you say that. But you had to speak on it, right? Right. That's what I was saying. It's newsworthy. Come back to what I was saying. Once you see that shit, you got to go like,
Starting point is 01:04:56 bro, why are you talking about them picking sides? Like, that's shit goofy, but it's the fans that's engaging. that's an agent motherfuckers on doing this shit. Right. Yeah. But I ain't got beef with nobody. Everybody knows who I got beef with.
Starting point is 01:05:09 The ops. They know the ops is. We're the ops. We're from 63rd. So that's just say it all right there. Yeah. Everybody knows who we got beef with. All them other out of town niggas that's clicking up with them.
Starting point is 01:05:18 We don't know them. So why y'all, like, what's the problem? But if it's that, then I guess. Right. And that comes back to the blackball and shit. Because all the niggas is in the game all the way in there. You feel? Mm.
Starting point is 01:05:30 And they get around the record label that they speak down on niggas. I know that for a fact. Right. 100%. I hang around millionaires, all type of shit. My homie right here,
Starting point is 01:05:41 sitting over here, sacked up right now. Like, you feel me? And niggas be talking down on us, bro. Like, like I said, me, I don't speak down on anybody. Remember when I just said, I'm a creator?
Starting point is 01:05:54 I just said, Chief Keith name, everybody named. Those niggas, when another came on here and said that on our name. I feel you But I mean at the same time It's kind of like You have to talk about him
Starting point is 01:06:05 To basically talk about the history of street rap in Chicago But I really don't He's probably the biggest Chicago street rap He is He is but he's been gone Right His ass left before we was fighting When we was when Chief Keith got saying
Starting point is 01:06:18 We were still fighting Right I mean he had the same idea as you Yeah Get the fuck out of this city Just a few years earlier He got about it up yeah He got about that really It's kind of forced upon him too
Starting point is 01:06:28 because of legal shit. Yeah, a lot of shit going on with him, too. They wouldn't even let his hologram be in the city. Yeah, they'd be, police be on his eye. They might let your hologram rock. Yeah, no, boy, I'm going to fuck out of that. Me and my hologram are out of here. Let me get the fuck out of Iraq.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Shit going on in Iraq. The fuck going on out there. None at all. Gun smoke. What do you got specifically planned in terms of, like, you know, keeping Doug's name alive and shit? Like, where's your thought process at on in terms of, like, keeping his name alive, making sure people don't forget?
Starting point is 01:06:58 to stop showing them love and everything like that. Sure, you know, I just keep, keep pressure on it. Keep pressure on all these niggas neck. Saying niggas was speaking down on them, I'm gonna speak up to them, you feel me? Like, and just keep going for the team, try to make sure everybody's straight, feed everybody out he was,
Starting point is 01:07:14 try to just fill his shoes or some big shoes to feel, you feel me, but you gotta try to do it. Definitely. What, in terms of your career and everything, anything big that we gotta look forward to? Yeah, you know, I got the drill to the hills, EP coming soon. Produce been my boy triples, you feel
Starting point is 01:07:31 I got the stretching game EP with all my artists. Glissie, fucking dizzy, fucking Millie, a whole bunch of game. I was on that bitch, daddy, oh, everybody, you feel me? We're gonna be turned. Just drop. I'm probably dropped shit on World Star, I think, next week or some shit. But, you know, World Star, I ain't even what it is, or more, that shit be watered down.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I need the YouTube page. Like, you gotta get on a YouTube page, you know what I'm gonna. You gotta have your own YouTube these days, but it's a weird thing. decision because like World Star let you get your shit out to a lot of people real fast yeah but then it's not on your page no but I'm saying like I'd rather give the world star YouTube page you feel me instead of just the World Star website oh yeah the website ain't doing shit that shit ain't none that I feel me yeah that's all I mean I seen so many people
Starting point is 01:08:13 get fucking million views on there it's like no I don't believe it yeah but you know we just working you feel me everything out been gonna be about you out I know that's a truck really had an impression on you out here here me yeah I mean that's been done that five million views you're doing good you Those trucks, though, they don't got that shit in Chicago, huh? Or Arizona. They do. Yeah, it's called Easy Botchy.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Yeah, that shit is fire, right? You know what's crazy? People don't really know outside L.A. shit. I changed my number, bro, and the Easy Botty truck and Arizona got my old phone number, bro. That shit is mind-blowing, bro. What the fuck? One of the guys texts, like, can I get some Wright State text? Wait, is this Billy or the Easy Botchy truck, bro?
Starting point is 01:08:54 He's going to call me tomorrow, bro. Did you buy the Easy Bocci truck? I was the fuck. Because that was my idea. I'm like, man, you ought to start a fucking Habachi truck out of Chicago or something. Move back and just be posted up the truck all day. I fucking around and put one out here
Starting point is 01:09:08 because we're going to open some shit up out here soon. Yeah. No, that's Mark. We need a rapper-owned Habaji truck. That's the next step. That would be hard. We're going to pop that up soon. We feel it, you probably getting on.
Starting point is 01:09:19 We're a podcast or owned. Habachi truck. Ha-ha-ha. Yeah, man, it was good. It was good. see what people got to say about this. But I just, I respect where you've been taking the music and stuff. Like, when I went and listened to it, the past few days, I was just like really actually
Starting point is 01:09:36 impressed. Man, he's killing it, bro. Like, you know, the shit. It almost reminds me a duck where a duck, like, had like, his, like, street rap shit. And then all of a sudden at one point, his music just get better and better and his shit just blew the fuck up. I feel like you just kind of been doing the same thing. It's coming.
Starting point is 01:09:50 I appreciate your mom. Boy, I'm just trying to perfect my crap, you feel me? And just keep going, you feel me, keep everybody together. It's gonna go up. There it is. Appreciate you, man. You definitely, I'll definitely all love, you feel. For sure.
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