No Jumper - The Bobby Shmurda Interview: Dancing Controversy, Prison, Girls, Fronto & More

Episode Date: February 1, 2022

Bobby sits down with Adam for a casual and candid conversation. Bobby reflects on his upbringing, the ups and downs, making better choices, spreading positivity with his dance moves and looking forwar...d to everything he has in the works! New documentary coming soon! https://www.instagram.com/itsbobbyshm... ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today we are blessed to have an absolute legend in the building. Gang, gang, gang, the litters podcast in the world. My God. The litest. The littest. The littest podcast in the world. We ain't here.
Starting point is 00:00:13 I never thought I was going to get this interview. Why not? Because when you got locked up, I wasn't even interviewing rappers yet. Yeah, but we two birds of a cow, they said birds of a feather flock together, right? Yeah. Just because we got a good taste in vagina. Wait, so this is what y'all do. You just hit it.
Starting point is 00:00:30 times in a lot. Yeah, I don't know. Got past that in you. It was too much. I ain't been in New York in a while, so I'm kind of slow with a lot of the communication and shit. But I never really had homies with like a cool handshake in the first place. Never? Nah. White people just aren't that advanced. We don't just don't
Starting point is 00:00:45 think like that, I guess. Some people though, I don't give handshakes, so I just punched them with some shit. Yeah. I might punch them. I might punch him. I might punch him. You got a stupid-ass motherfucker. You're the definition of that, like, Brooklyn energy of just fucking hit you in the face. He's like, well, actually, I mean, like,
Starting point is 00:01:01 obviously 90% of dudes in Brooklyn ain't like that. But, like, you just got that crazy. I know, I'm known dudes in New York like you. Hold on, what you just said? What? 90% of people in Brooklyn ain't like that? With the energy. Most of them are pretty, like, laid back, quiet.
Starting point is 00:01:16 But there's one of you. Brooklyn nigs is hooligans. The thing is, Brooklyn motherfuckers is hooligans. They just, like, low about it. They like to act smooth about it. That's the thing about New Yorkers. We like to, like, call it down a little, but we wild this shit.
Starting point is 00:01:25 We were like people don't know we wild. New Yorkers, you got to be, like, really, really good at crime. You can't, you can't, like, get yourself out that much because it's so, like, there's so much protection. When you come in New York, when you make it in New York, you make it anywhere
Starting point is 00:01:37 because it's so, like, you'd be so smooth with shit. Like, you'd be sitting next to a murder every day, you wouldn't even know. All my time in New York, I would just always think that when I was seeing, you know, young people moving around and shit and just be like, they grow up so fucking fast
Starting point is 00:01:50 because it's so dangerous. Yeah. You meet a girl in New York, she already, like, knows how to act when a dude hollers at it because, I know a million girls in my life who will come. come from Connecticut or whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Everybody screaming at him on the street that traumatized from having do is holler at them, 24-7. What should you go learn to hollered at him? I've been in a relationship for five years. We're currently engaged. I ask them if they want to make some bread on, Onlyfans. Where? Actually, you do?
Starting point is 00:02:18 Well, I mean, it works for me. It's hard to find a better, like, you tempt them with money. That's so much better than, like, what? Like, what is the average guy trying to sell a girl on? Just a good time? Some jokes. You guys are some jokes. I told people with jokes.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Jokes always got me to pussy. Yeah, jokes and smile. Jokes and so smile. Just being around the gang. Just being around the gang. That's the selling point. You just get around the gang. You just get to kick it.
Starting point is 00:02:45 You know? Papa Molly with the gang. Papa Molly with the gang. God damn. What are you doing on LA right now? On video shoots. We're doing some video shoots. I'm doing a script right now.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Okay. With some writers. Actually, we got a movie. We're writing a movie right now. You're smirder movie? The movie and the documentary. Okay. Actually, I just signed a deal with our Master Pills, so I'm doing this documentary with them, too.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Really? So you're going to do the documentary about your life, and then what's the movie about? The movie's about the life, because once I started telling them, I told them like four parts of my life. They're like, what the fuck? You can't fit all this in the movie. It's like, what the fuck? Right. They're like, yo, how are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:03:19 Like, you need this part. I'm like, then take that out. Oh, no, people need to know this. And I'm like, what about this thing? They're like, oh, no, people need to know this. Right. I'm like, goddamn. So it's like they doing the documentary, anything,
Starting point is 00:03:29 because there's so much shit that motherfuckers just don't know about me. You know what I'm saying? And like the smile, I'm a motherfucker like the smile. Once you see the smile, you ain't going to no nothing. Right. I'm saying, I know how that power since I was young. Like, the smile gives, just disguise everything.
Starting point is 00:03:41 So you think your powers are meant to be distributed in many ways besides just rapping? Just a smile. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was that always the plan? Yeah. I'm gonna spread joy, you heard? And I come from the nassies, nasty is a place.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Like, you see shit in the whole ways. And I ain't like motherfuckers that I have fucking life in prison and shit. And I had them crying laughing. Like they'll I'm gonna make you laugh or make you feel sometimes like, you know what I'm saying? Cause we come from the gutter. So I like to get the people that moment where you just feel free. You know when you just feel free? That's what I'm about.
Starting point is 00:04:13 You don't get depressed? No. When people, I see people smile and make me smile. So when I see people sad, I don't like shit like that. I'm like, so I was young. I'm like, yo, what I'm going to get up. Nige, come on, go. Let's go do something, man.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Right. But you never lost that even through doing all that time and shit. you gotta imagine that it's gotta really take its toll on you man yo i don't like to tell people really about the jett because you know the documentary and everything but when i was in jay i was wild bro i was like you're having a little too much fun i heard about that oh it's fishing on me yeah what you heard about when i was doing jay i mean we don't got to get into too many details but you know i heard there was some shit going on it was wild it was like it was like a high school
Starting point is 00:04:53 you know right and i mean you're in there with all this fame all of a sudden, too. So you're like the superstar of the jail, right? It was sad because it was like I was known in jail. Like, there's famous people in jail already. Like, jail have famous people. Okay. Every state, you can ask anybody, jails have famous people already.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Who was the famous people in your shit? No, you got like gangsters. I'm talking about. Not famous people that's like just people that, and I was a nigger, unfortunately, that was known in the system before I was Bobby Shmurter. So when I was Bobby Shmurdy, like, what the fuck? Right. Everybody I knew from juvenile.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Everybody did. So they, what the fuck you doing it, nigga? Like, type of shit. But was it a good thing for the most part, or was it bad? Like, you were in there. It was embarrassing. It was kind of embarrassing, right? Yeah, but respect is when it's kind of embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Like, we know you about that. What the fuck you're doing here, though? Right. Hey, what's you doing? The craziness of me was because I lived in Brooklyn for like seven years. And I left in like 2010. And then when I leave, I really start, you know, seeing like Chief Keefe pop up and like all this shit,
Starting point is 00:05:50 like all this different street shit. When Chief Nell came out, Louis, Chief of them changed a lot of shit. When Chief of came out, I was locked up. I was locked up. a gun charge when Chief and all of them came out. I don't like, you know, I came home like, Dirk and on those on Wilden.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I came on like 2012, like the middle of 2012. Because when I first seen you, that's what I thought is, oh shit, this is the Brooklyn version of what's going on in Chicago. Like the kids are really having their say, like the young ass, gangster-ass kids that I knew in Brooklyn, because you just reminded me so much of all the dudes I used to ride bikes with in New York and shit. You know any BMX dudes? BMX? BMX.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Oh, no. You never got into that. My mother's always be in the hood, though. Yeah. They always be like round through on highway. I'm on Kings Highway. Yeah. There's some legends out there.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I'll give you some education. I'm scared bikes, bro. Why, because you're not coordinator, right? No, yeah, bro. Like, me, my whole body's unorthodox, so I don't know what's going to happen. Like, when I wake up, I don't know what's going to happen. You always been like that, though? You always been trashed sports or anything?
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yo, bro, bro. I've been, like, a bunch of energy that I couldn't contain. Blah. They tried to put me on medication that I was young. Really? So like a bunch of energy, but I can't, like, I don't know why I just can't go. It don't go. It don't go.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I'll shoot it and go all the way up the fuck. I don't know. You want to shoot a basketball, you have to do a very controlled motion. Yeah, I don't have to see, that's the thing. Me and control is very, a lot of control. Ah, control is like left or I'm like right, you know what I'm going to ask with it to basketball. It never makes sense to me.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I don't know. That fucking hole is so far away. Golf? You can hit that, that ball, like a whole block, like a couple blocks? I never played golf I was always like watching my dad doing this shit and I'm like you fucking serious you think I'm gonna go out to this fucking field
Starting point is 00:07:28 and just whack a ball and just like why would I do that? Like it's way too far away your dad's rich as shit huh? Nah Nah Oh no I don't think golf's a rich people's sport
Starting point is 00:07:40 YouTube's a rich sport And raping You got more money than your parents Huh? You got more money than your parents I mean yeah right Well, I take care of them, so it's the same thing, I guess. They got as much money as me.
Starting point is 00:07:54 My parents ain't letting me take care of it. I say that, right? They got as much money as me. There you go. It's a beautiful thing. Okay. What do you think your fans want to see us talk about it? That's one thing I was wondering.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Because you are out here on a media tour talking to everybody. They want to talk about the album. They want to talk about the features on the album. We want to talk about what's going on with the music. They want to talk about the music. They want to talk about the dances. They want to talk about the press. They want to talk about anything.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I feel like they want to hear about anything. Which I want to talk about it. Which I won't hear about. I'm going to focus on one of those things. The dancing. Out here on the West Coast, the clubhouse rooms is going up. Everybody got an opinion about what you know and Bobby Smirder doing. They girl probably watching so they're mad.
Starting point is 00:08:34 The girl probably over there watching. Fuck this motherfucker don't you know. Yeah. How do you feel about that? What, guys talking? I mean, how do you feel about the suggestion that you're like less gangster because of the dancing or that you're losing touch with the streets, I believe, might be the quote as a result of some of the dance moves.
Starting point is 00:08:51 I'm saying people see me all the time, so... Same ice stuff for the time. Right. Try it. Try it. Try it. Diggick. Try it.
Starting point is 00:09:00 That's dirty right there. Try it. Try it. Try it to tip in there. Please. Try it. Shit like that, you know what I'm saying? Try it.
Starting point is 00:09:10 With a smile, baby. I'm saying? With a smile on. Right. I'm saying? They got to pretend to do all that. That's why they got to do it. I does it with a smile.
Starting point is 00:09:18 You came in the game dancing. I was saying, yeah, I kept in the dance. I was like four years old. I've been busting a nigga shit open since I was five, six. I mean? Nobody was really thinking about it back in the day. They were like Bobby's gangster as fuck, but they weren't really worried about the dances back then.
Starting point is 00:09:31 You know, everybody's going to say this and that. It's like I got more money now, so I'm not, I don't see certain people. And when they do see me, it's not as that is love. I'm saying? So it's like, it's for the internet. You're not an internet shit. I'm not about to be arguing on the internet.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I'm grown ass, man. The day I argue on the internet, I'm a bitch. bitch-ass nigga. The day a nigga get me to go up, grab my phone up. Fuck, y'all nicks talk about. Get the password open. Get the password open. Why don't go get the address and go holl at the nigga? Right.
Starting point is 00:10:00 They ain't brain science. That's what they'd be doing these days. You see all the all the dudes, that's one difference from when you went in, when you got locked up to when you got out, is that all of a sudden it became super normal to be staring into your phone screaming saying I smock your fucking cousin. I'm going to tell you said, like,
Starting point is 00:10:18 Niggas I grew around, they know that already from the hood. I was one there for us. I don't play that dumb shit. I'm not going to do something. We're going to do something. We're not in time for this, back and forth and all this. I got too much games and all this shit going on. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:30 It's just one, too. You know what I mean? It's not all this is doing all this extra shit for. Who are you grabbing phone for? If I was in the hood, they didn't grab the phone down, I'll slap the shit out. You bha fucking grabbing the phone for, nigger.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Let people know what the fuck wrong with you, yeah? But you're already on. Oh, yeah, yeah. What about the nude kids who, They're not famous yet. They need to get famous by screaming into their iPhone and throwing up sets. Let your name talk for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I used to meet people. This is real shit, right? I used to meet people and they used to tell me shit about me that they didn't even know they were talking to me. Let just let your name talk. Your name was so big that they didn't even realize. This was the face. They said, chew, yeah. I'm like, word that black motherfucker did?
Starting point is 00:11:10 And I mean, the brothers would be live. I mean, the brother should be live. I look at this motherfucker right. I look at a shit. She said, yeah. Yeah, they say he shot up in a. I just looking at him up. Why?
Starting point is 00:11:19 He's dead white. I'm like, what that nigga did? That crazy black, the guy. I heard he be over there. I got here. I'm from Brooklyn. What you want to be? Right.
Starting point is 00:11:28 You will me? This is the thing, though, is it must feel kind of weird to like, well, is there dancing in prison? Yeah, nicks are dancing. They call me happy for you in prison. They used to be crying, laughing. Okay. How much, I first got in there. I first got in there.
Starting point is 00:11:44 You know who used to get mad with it? It's always old niggas. I try to sleep this six o'clock in the morning this thing I'm dancing. Chow ass up, nigga. It's look like the hotel. Niggins full of like, bhr-fucking tell me about. So we lock out of sleep. He's fucking sicken talking about.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Dang it. I got nothing else. Dude, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying. I assume for like 99% of people doing prison time that there's no dancing. No, I make people, everybody dance. But you had your cell walk turn time. I make the COs, everybody dancing, everybody from the, for the niggas who wardens, everybody.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Everybody, I make everybody to that shit. Right. And that was before I was Bobby Shmerdering, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But dancing, while you were locked up, also, it became so much more normal because like Tic Tag and shit like that. Now it's like, you see all these gangsters dancing. Yeah, that's what games do.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Gags are going to do what the fuck I want to do. I'm not thinking about what somebody telling me, oh, you can't dance Bobby. Let somebody tell me I can't dance. Right. Let's somebody, what they're going to do? But like, in the case of Wack 100, I don't think he was like saying you can't dance. He was just saying that he thinks it's having a bad effect on how you. perceived by gangsters, I guess.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Ain't right. Who you're talking about the love and hip-hop, niggas? I don't think Wack 100 was on loving hip-hop. What was he do? That would be tight if he was. What was he do? Podcasts?
Starting point is 00:12:59 He managed some artists, blueface in the game. Oh. That's still going to fuck by that. I'm not going to fuck with the game. You know what I'm saying? But he's nothing to talk about. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Well, we don't have to name. I made a million dollars this week. This week? Why would I want to talk about Wack Weddy? Uh. Just I don't fucking talk about wacky Honey
Starting point is 00:13:21 I don't see my lawyer This guy I'm fucking fucking about whack What I mean Okay but here's a question I'm sure that the clubhouse rooms Will be interested in Is there any dance moves
Starting point is 00:13:34 That are Over the line That are off limits The macarena What's that? Like Dda Duda
Starting point is 00:13:41 Duda Duda Now my Spanish Bhabi Yo every time they're drunk Smile with Spanish girls They do that all the time They get drunk
Starting point is 00:13:48 And they be like D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D. Dee, thee, they made me do that shit with time. You pick up dance moves from the Spanish girls you'd be fucking with? I pick up dance moves from everywhere, bro. I was a group-ponged, I was not a person. I had to get kicked out of everywhere. They had no behavior when I was young.
Starting point is 00:14:02 But I was a funny motherfucker. So people were like, it was like a pro in the con. I was really bad, but I was funny. Right. I don't know people liked me. You always been open to suggestion you see something fly, making your own. I was, yeah, that's your own. I'm not a person that got that prison mind, though.
Starting point is 00:14:18 When I say prison, people that never been in prison got a prison in mind where you feel like you can't think because somebody's going to tell you it's not cool or some shit or whatever. I don't know. You're an individual, that's for sure. You're not just following along with what everybody else is doing. Mine is our bad man.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Tell them bring the army, bring the army, and I'm going to shot for everybody. You lost me at bad mon. You lost me at bad man. That's good. That's good. You're a bad man. I'm going to be honest with you,
Starting point is 00:14:45 my whole life I've been listening to people talk like that and not knowing what the fuck they were talking about. Do you know that white people can't tell what the fuck you're saying? That means like some people probably could. That means like renegade. Bad man? Yeah, rebel.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Renegade don't follow no rules. Oh, okay. What's a bateman? I don't know and I don't want no trouble. I don't want no trouble. It's a USA one, nigga. I just always hear that. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And you're like, yeah, nigga, ah, ah! Listen, I got, I go on tops of fears. I love all my fans, okay? Like when I saw cry, I love to all my fucking cats. Wow. Wow. Wow. The energy, I just like, you know, I'm 40, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I'm 38. That don't mean that. I'm rounding up to 40. That don't mean. I'm just saying, though, there's like there's a lot to compete with on this side of the table. Yo, I know, I know, I know a 50, a 62-year-old man that get up and do like 300 pull-ups and 300 push-ups every day. Wow. And dips and burpees a run.
Starting point is 00:15:43 He's busy as fuck. This nicks are monster. You got on the workout program while you're locked up? I tried, I popped in once, but after that I can fuck with him. I got one day, I got it out, ah, I spent them. Let me catch your breath. But you got all that energy. It feels like you maybe need to take it out somehow.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Yeah, but I always get in trouble all the time. I used to fight 20 motherfuckers outside. I'd be doing a whole bunch of crazy shit, slino car, a lot of extra energy, a lot of extra energy. So I was like what I put my energy in. That's you trying to calm yourself down? Yeah, I smoke a lot of weed. I smoke a lot of weed.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Just the weed, though? Yeah. You never try to slug. yourself down with the good shit. Like what? Zanax, Lean, purpose says. I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I don't like Danes. I smoke weed. Yeah. I smoke the weed. Everybody I know who does those things also smokes weed. Nah, I can't do Zames.
Starting point is 00:16:28 You can't do it. I like it. I like Licking like that, bro. I don't like liquor like that. I don't like liquor like that. I've known a lot of rappers who had a lot of fucking energy and then they just end up drinking Hellaline and popping hell of pills
Starting point is 00:16:38 and all of a sudden you see them like two years later. I drunk lean like one time. I drunk lean like one time for my birthday when I was like 17. We was a juvenile. And my son had it. My son got it for me. Actually, my role manager,
Starting point is 00:16:50 he was like in juvie one time. He's back in the day, like 10 years ago. We was in juvie. And my birthday came, and he got me some things, some shit. I'm like, I don't want that shit, man.
Starting point is 00:16:59 That shit had me smack, dude. He's in jazz, so, you know, you get me, you know what I'm saying. And it takes a certain kind of dude. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:17:05 It takes a certain kind of dude to want to just basically drink this expensive that shit that's going to make you fall asleep. I ain't go a lot. My body is, once it on jack, I don't go fuck.
Starting point is 00:17:13 What prices on it? What day? What's it like? I'm about my eye. I don't like it. Right. Like that shit out of here. What time you go to bed?
Starting point is 00:17:21 People have been, since I was young people have been cursing me out by going to bed. I don't go to sleep. I don't know why I'm. Really? And when I do sleep, I sleep at the way this hour. I just pass out. Really?
Starting point is 00:17:30 I don't be like, yo, I'm about to go to sleep. I can't just like, yo, Bing, we're going to sleep. You don't put the little nightcap on. I can't. I just be jumping around. I can't. Get you get out. Put your stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Take your shoes off. You're like a cat? You're like just take a little map and then just pop back up a couple hours later. This, yo, sometimes is you right? Really? That's such a rapper thing. So like, there's no such thing as night or day.
Starting point is 00:17:53 You're just like ready to go anytime. I used to sell drugs. Yeah. So my life always been like before the rapper. So it was like before I was rap, I used to sell drugs all day. Three and four new one. Like my hood, you, I was like, you were liable any given day, every single day, four or five in the morning.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I'm outside. I'm brushing my teeth on the corner. Bunch of guns on me. We got the black lit. I mean, shoot, dice, this, this, this, I'm like 14, 13, hold it. I go to school, like, that shit. I always always out of it. Wow, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:18:20 That's crazy. I don't think he should have been out there like that. I used to get in trouble in school a lot, so I stopped going to school. They tried to control me a lot. Like, I was bad. But, like, what you're describing is something that, like, most people think kind of, like, ended in, like, the 80s or the 90s, like, a kid, young-ass kid being out there selling fucking drugs on the corner in Brooklyn with hell of guns on him.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Because, like, the Brooklyn that most of us know being in the... It's just not a good idea. My mom's kicked me out. She kicked me. Fuck out. She kicked me. Fuck out. She didn't play that shit.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Yeah, you're outside in the corner of all of the shit. Get the shit out! What the fuck? How do you feel about the fact that Brooklyn had got, like, so much worse with the gang shit and people shooting each other. They said it since you went in. It's not like all these kids just like learned a lesson. I feel like, see, the thing is they don't know, like, I'll be telling you your motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Like, they don't understand the rap shit is the way, like the rap shit. Even if they don't want the rap is the way out for. motherfuckers like instead of them thinking about doing like because they need something to do right I'm saying a lot of motherfuckers on the streets they need something to do the studio keep you busy studio you're shooting music videos you're doing your shows you're doing that they're not thinking about so much this and that they're expressing their pain and they anger in a different way so I be trying to tell them your motherfuckers that me I wish I like I ain't a lot I had when I was that age though niggies used to tell me go to the studio all the time and niggas had to bribe me to go sometimes or like drag me with them
Starting point is 00:19:39 or sometimes I'll go like I come on fuck with that you didn't have the rapper dream you just you start street dreams at that point you thought that that was a good route I was just not street dreams I was a little crazy motherfucker bro like you yeah wow 70 asked me what's my fucking goals I'm gonna tell you I'm trying to serve drugs to get it like buy liquor stored and buy liquor store about real stage and by this and that this and that when I was sent to you right yeah if you even if you had known how much money you can make as a rapper though do you think that that would assuade you or you think you were kind of stuck in your ways already I felt you know what I was I was stuck in my ways where I felt like I was scared to be a rapper
Starting point is 00:20:10 I was like, oh shit, uh-uh, I'll be shooting nicks for $20. These niggins is tripping. 20? Yeah, I was in the hood. Why, ha, la, la, la, wow. I said, uh-uh, these niggas is in the rap game be tripping. I'm like, uh-uh, these niggas made me go tear the whole fucking place. And they're gonna give me money.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Right. I was scared when I was 18, 19, especially with the bros. Right. But do you think that, like, your, do you think that you would have been in a different situation? I know how the young nicks be. Like, they'd be like, damn, they gave me all this money. Right. I got ops.
Starting point is 00:20:40 But now it's like required. Like these young kids, they think that they shouldn't even bother rapping unless they got ops. They're talking about who they're going to go shoot at, etc. It's like there's no reason to rap unless they're going to be talking about that kind of shit. And I blame you honestly. I feel like you kind of started that way.
Starting point is 00:20:57 They're all trying to be. All those kids in New York are trying to be like you, even if they don't remember that that's why. You know why I say that you can't blame me, A? Because if you listen to my music, I don't only talk about just guns old eight. I know. But the same way the Chief Keith set that template for Chicago, y'all really like
Starting point is 00:21:12 kind of show this whole generation kids is like, oh, you can come from nothing and shit as long as you're talking about some super real shit, you're clearly really out there, they all fell in line and started kind of taking that mold. You see the thing, I ain't, I ain't know shit no guns in none of my videos. I don't promote shit like that. That's smart.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I don't promote, I don't promote motherfuckers that have guns. Like, anybody's around with the blicky on the train, no? I don't promote motherfuckers that have guns. They tell you from the hood when I was in the hood. Like, I was young, I didn't tell him. I didn't tell some nicks to go inside. Like, what you're doing outside? But what's you doing this and that for?
Starting point is 00:21:40 You know what I'm saying? Like, you say, everybody's like outside, what you're doing outside? I was like, when I was John, what you're doing outside? What's your stuff flying? You're like, what's this and that stuff? What's this and that stuff? What's just going to be? That ain't anybody outside no more.
Starting point is 00:21:52 When we blazing, you know what? You know what I'm saying? So that's what when I went up, when I was looking at them, I was like, y' outside doing the wrong thing, but outside having fun. Because one way, I want people to get to mess with this, yeah, they look at me as the shoe, they look at me, this and that, but I tell motherfuckers, I always had a good personality. I ain't never do nothing to know.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Nothing to nobody on this world unless some one nigga did something. Right. That's why I wrote where I'm a smile on my face. Do you think that if you had a good mentor at that time who had told you how to finesse the rap game and how to, like if you had really had something, what would you have even listened? Not finesse. He told me, I didn't have to tell me finesse. Once I started making money in rap, I said shit. I'm on the block making $2,000, $400 on a bad day, $500 on a bad day, sent out of our day.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Telling crack with guns on me, running from police, shooting it, people shooting nays this that all day that shit has a time limit on it big time niggas don't understand that when I was that in the streets I knew it had the time limit on it I didn't give a fuck
Starting point is 00:22:51 I didn't give a fuck I'm saying what I'm saying? Like some people get deep day where you don't I can give a fuck but once I found a light that showed me like oh shit I got a way out like what the fuck rapper me rapper that's why I blew up like that like me
Starting point is 00:23:06 Chewy rapper Bobby Shmurda. You did take off and you left it behind, but then the cops didn't forget about their prior investigations. They can't forget about me. Hey, they still talking about me right now. I'll cause havoc. Like, I'm not your average rapper.
Starting point is 00:23:20 A rapper was like, all right, certain people you're going to hood when niggas say they rap or they made it. Like, all right, cool, I can see him rapping and making it. The motherfucker like me, everybody thought I was going to be in jail my whole life. That's all he's talking to me like, hey, he's going to jail. That motherfucker's impulsive. He's going to do. Did you like take that in
Starting point is 00:23:37 and not really expect more for yourself? because you knew that people's expectations were love. I never listened to people. That from young, because I was always getting trouble when I was young, that always cut me from I was young. I never listened to people. I always had that, man, it's the fuck up, because they always telling me, son.
Starting point is 00:23:49 They always going to tell me, son. So I just smiled. I'll be smiled looking at the motherfucker like, you think I'm listening to you, stupid, you just talk. You know what I'm saying? So it would be like that, like. But when you see all these like Brooklyn drill, rappers, et cetera,
Starting point is 00:24:02 do you see like your influence on that? Do you realize this is shit that probably wouldn't be happening and it wouldn't look exactly like this if it wasn't for you? See, the thing, the only influence I see more is them having fun.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Yeah. Doing videos, dancing. The guns in the videos, that ain't no influence on me. Yeah, they're way worse with you. Yeah, because me, I influence dancing, smiling, coming from the street life
Starting point is 00:24:23 and being able to smile. That's why I smile and dance and talk about what the shit that I talked about coming through and be able to come from where I came from the psych warts and the jails and the juveniles I was 12.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And who y'all I'm saying? The psych waltzes I was 6. I was 16. and the fucking prisons and everybody know my name and my brothers and my father and like the real ghetto ghetto shit that people don't know like I didn't did it all you know I'm saying all from a kid like you I'm saying I was a big dog when I was 14 I'm saying I can go to school
Starting point is 00:24:51 I can go to junior ice going to I ain't doing that so I got different type of story from every rapper even a gangster rapper because what gangster rapper you know smile like you smile and like this in front of your face that's a good point I know a lot of people talk to I'm from the hood I know niggas that's why they drink all that lean so they can just sort of get that killer demeanor like because they're fucking barely awake yeah i do it naturally i'm naturally
Starting point is 00:25:12 like that i'm naturally like that some people like getting drugs and shit all that and make their minds and watch tv and do a bunch of d or shit i don't know you don't watch tv either i don't watch tv like that i'm gonna go i got edd like i like i could watch tv and i watch it for like 10 minutes i'm gonna i'm gonna those motherfuck yeah yeah i feel that so you're in the club every night now no studio studio documentary in the script working on shit I just told you I just did the documentary I know but I just wouldn't picture that you would be like working on it every night oh yeah we're working all the time really and the deeply coming out we got strains coming out you soon about to have the smurder's drain coming out yeah it'd be
Starting point is 00:25:55 it's grown right now as we talk you got a lot to compete with it's you trying to smoke better than this big chief I need some of that man I got you come on roll some of that thing got you got to get you on the wago truffle and the mac and cheese man mac and cheese man What slapping the most? This one. Oh, no, the triple scoop. That's the hardest one. I need some rapper weed, though.
Starting point is 00:26:14 This is this shit gonna put me to sleep. This is the shit going to hide me like, ah. Rapper weed is supposed to put you to sleep, right? No, the rapids is supposed to make you dance. I like the shit that make me dance. The shit that makes me sleep, make me feel like I'm on some drugs. Like I'm doing the shit that I was selling. I'm like, hold on, dude.
Starting point is 00:26:26 What kind of weed you normally smoke? I'm in the trap again, dick. I used to be the ones. I'm not the one like, what the fun? You know what I need that? I need that year. You know, smoking good? since you got home?
Starting point is 00:26:38 I haven't smoked since I was in jail. Even the... The whole time you were in there. You never took a, like... You used to kick me out of jazz for that. You can't smoke for a couple weeks because the pipeline is fucked up. That's because they come and they come young like,
Starting point is 00:26:52 ah, this black ass motherfucker! Polar, you got this shit smell like Jamaica! I'm coming up. It ain't me. It ain't mean, is it. They search just by searching up. Hey, hey, it be lit. Like, you're motherfuck.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Wow. It was ghetto. I tell you it was ratchet. The guards hated you? Or they were all right? They said I was a movie. They said it was something to do every time I came. They went like, and I'm there. Everybody want me in their house.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Everybody wanted me. I'd be like, yo, y'all leave me along for everybody. Really? I don't know. And so you're fucking the guards? I mean, allegedly. No. That didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:27:29 No, I did not fucking no guards. Guards do not give people pussy in jail, okay? Any of them, like, fuckable? I got head on the dance floor, okay, in the visit. I got head on the visit. For real? Yeah. Guard?
Starting point is 00:27:39 God. God's are not doing it. They're not bringing drugs. They're not fucking nobody. They're doing their jobs. But were there any bad CEOs? That doesn't strike me as a job that a pretty young girl is going to want to go into.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah, I see one. When I'm a mom, I was like 23, she's like 22. She's like a lot of time. So she woke me up one day, right? She's like, yo, get up, Bobby. Ah, ah, ah. So I'm like, let me stop. Hey, wait to the documentary.
Starting point is 00:28:03 He'll give me your trouble. Yeah. Whoa. He's like, ah. They're like, ah. They're going to give me in trouble. You know, my favorite thing I seen that was right when you got out that I seen on Twitter that there was mad, people mad as fuck, because you had some white girls around you.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I like, yo, bro, I like him from the nabby hair to the blondes, baby. Right. You know what I'm saying? Ass is, ass, ass, ass, ass, his ass, poon, it's, pump, fun, from once it's nice in this shape. I'm Jamaican, I like the girls. I like gellis, you know what I'm like, gellis, you know what I'm like, gellis. Yeah. Like, yes, I'm like all type of gals.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I'm like variety of girls. I like light skin ones. I like brown skin ones. I like chalk. You can't just have one. The white one. One flavor. You gotta go all flavors.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Right now, I'm trying to find out which one I want forever. So you don't know, you know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna just lie to a girl in Rushington saying. And be like, yo, I want you. I want to, I got to let them know. Like, I gotta explore. I gotta see what's, what's hitting for me. So you don't have a real, like, perspective,
Starting point is 00:28:53 a real opinion about what race has the best vagina at this point in your life? I don't believe in shit like that. I'm biased to like when it comes to picking thing. I can't pick. Like, I feel like this one today. Like this one tomorrow. I like this one for this.
Starting point is 00:29:06 like this one for that. That's what I feel too. When people are like, I don't like white girls, I don't like black girls. I like girls. They're all so incredible. Oh, soundy. See? Sounded. That's how wet this table. That's how wet this table. That's how wet she was. But I like girls, bro. I like girls, girls. Y'all do the music shit too. Y'all going to put that on. I like girls, girls, girls in the background, girls. We're going to prison if we do that.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I'll lock us up for copyright infringement. That's your boss. You could ask Jay, like, hey, is it cool if we... Ooh, you got some grab in this? Who rolled that? Who rolled this shit? Who's your grobber roller here? PJ?
Starting point is 00:29:48 Oh, my God. He's horrible, bro. Every time he rolls some shit, I'm like, should be just flying home. You don't trust his. He used to be rolling and get high. I'm like, you got to take your time with this. So this is a serious shit.
Starting point is 00:30:02 That's harsh, man. This is a serious shit right here. This man went in and did seven years. He comes out. He can't even smoke. right. That ain't right. How many those you go through in a day?
Starting point is 00:30:18 How much y'all think? Five? Hell, no. He did two in an interview. This guy. I did like 40, 40, 40. 40. 40. Holy 30. Holy 30. Right. Oh, 30. It depends on what I'm doing for the day. You know why? Because
Starting point is 00:30:42 it's like, I tell people, like, I smoke and do shit. So I'm like, I'm like a, you know what I'm saying? Right. But always with the franto in the fucking paper. Never a backward. I've been smoking the shit so I was 11 since I was 10. But always like that inside the paper? I smoked the Dutch's first. I smoked chocolate duchess first when I was like 10.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Then I started smoking. Old school. Yeah, thing when I was like 11. Good old days. 2004 and 5, remember the days? Right. But are you staying the fuck out in New York now for the most part or are you just really careful? No, I'm in New York and in LA a lot because
Starting point is 00:31:12 Rock Nations, New York based in New York and Epic is based in LA right now. So I'm back and forth. I got the companies back and forth on Mass Appeal and other ones I'm showing the script with. But you're standing your toes at this point because, like, the New York cops, they probably got a little glitch against you, right? No?
Starting point is 00:31:29 They cool with me. I mean, you did your time. They cool with me. You know, I'm saying, you know, I'm getting money. Now I ain't got time for that shit. You know, I'm saying. Yo, bro, that was some dirty shit like they did. I told you, once I got into the rap,
Starting point is 00:31:39 I left the streets. I'm saying? But it's still, they like, uh-uh. They was mad. Like, you, how you, jizzy, nigga? No, not you. Right. You could go.
Starting point is 00:31:48 This motherfucker right here! I'm like, yeah, I'm just like, you know, me what you're talking about? I'm trying to, you know. Right. Come on. You're like, no, you, motherfucking. Well, they got all these dudes who are like eight, nine years younger than you that are doing way worse shit right now
Starting point is 00:32:00 that they can focus their attention on, right? But I don't know why I would. I just felt like it was person. Like, boom, boom. The cops that indicted me, they're locking me up until like 12. Like, they're going in my ass. Shit, like putting me on walls going to my ass when I was like 12 years old. Wait, in your ass?
Starting point is 00:32:16 You have credit card swipe. Like that? Yeah. I'm like, get the fuck off me! Yeah, I can't throw that. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Shut up. I remember when I was interviewing and Shaw Money itself. The Chinese lady was yelling in the back. Shot Money was traumatized by that fucking shit when they ran in there.
Starting point is 00:32:33 That was crazy. He told me that story before you. That was regular shit. That's regular shit for us. But you know what it is? You know, I know the industry.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I tell niggas, you got to leave that shit. Don't bring that. You scared these industry people. Don't do that shit. You better leave that shit out there, you know what?
Starting point is 00:32:46 You got cap, blah, they don't know what the fuck going on all. You got these motherfuckers about to catch a heart attack probably. Your motherfucking ass over here looking. You can't, you got to be easy, bro. Right. Get the breach. You know what I'm saying? Get the money.
Starting point is 00:32:57 He came for take care of your daughters, your cousins, your bros that's locked up. They daughters, they cousins. I mean, families, this and that, your businesses. If you could tell me that you really like went through that whole process, I haven't to go, you know, being arrested, being in there, realizing you're going to go this time. And you never had, like, this sad, depressed state about you? You went through some dark times?
Starting point is 00:33:17 My family, when I see my family's, that's it. See, the thing, I'm a motherfucker, everybody knows me. I don't, nigger, I sacrificed myself back and forth. Like me, I don't, I don't hurt, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying? I hurt through people. So that's what it is, I'm saying. It'd be them hurting and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I feel like that's almost like a pathological level of positivity. If you just like can't even feel bad about that shit or feel shitty about it, I'm the kind of person where I was like, you know, if I had a fucking court date hanging over my head, I only think of you. about it every fucking 20 minutes. Since I was young, I was like, I'm more, I don't give a fuck until I see my mom's cry. I see certain shit, and I'm like, ah, shit,
Starting point is 00:33:55 I got that tighten up. I see the family. I see the kids now. Now I got nieces and nephews. Four hours, 17, 18, I have mom, dukes and granny, you know what I'm saying? So now when I got nieces and nephews, it's like, damn, I gotta raise these little
Starting point is 00:34:07 motherfuckers, they call them you all the time, they this and that. Fuck, they look like their uncle on, up, you know what I'm saying? You're on news for, shooting somebody or some dumb shit. They ain't got time for that shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Niggas, niggas who at a certain age that's talking about that, that means you ain't do what you had to do back in the days on me, so you're still on that type of shit, you know what I'm saying? You're still talking about that type of shit for me, you know what I'm saying? One thing that struck me in this whole dance conversation is that it's like, you did like the most gangster shit, the most hardcore shit you'd ever have to do through going and sitting down for all that time. And does it kind of feel like people are just like sort of trying to drag you back?
Starting point is 00:34:45 Like they want you to be judged on a standard. You mean crabs in a barrel? You already been through all that shit? Yeah. Crabbs in a barrel. That's what you mean. Call them like you see. Crabbs in the barrel.
Starting point is 00:34:53 You mean like motherfuckers, we try to drag you back down here. Huh? We don't say crabs out here. What? Crabbs in a barrel? That's complicated. I don't mean it like that.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Come on, nigga, I'm big. You know what I'm big, you know, I'm big hurt, nigga. Nigger, no, I'm big hurt, niggis. But they don't say that as a diss out there? Um, yeah, but you see, I'm bottom on.
Starting point is 00:35:13 So I say what the fuck I want I can wait a little day and I'm, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm the, I'm the, I was a shooter. I'm saying, no, no mask, no nothing.
Starting point is 00:35:27 You're like running around saying that because you can't say it, huh? I'm saying, all the kids in junior high school, everybody's gonna tell you the opposite. Everybody's gonna tell you the kids from junior high school. They were like five years old when I was in the streets, wilding and shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:37 They're in high school now and shit like that. But then how do you tell those same kids not to do the shit that you did? Because I tell me, my shit was for reasons. You know what it was? A lot of my stories, that's why the documentary got to come out because people think, oh, they hear you did this and that. But for what reason?
Starting point is 00:35:50 Because it was a crab in the barric. I always had his energy in the hood. But a lot of people that when you go up through the hood and certain people, like, when I was growing up, a lot of people didn't recognize, thinking they were here by me, but they would hear me. They'd be like, this is him? Why the fuck he acting like that? And then when shit go down, they'd be like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:36:08 That's okay, that's him. Oh, okay, that's him. But how do you stop these young kids from wanting to have that same? kind of reputation. But the thing is why I try to tell them because the, you know, because I don't, when people don't talk enough, when I don't talk enough, stories get this and that and pictures get painted. And people think that we wanted to do that shit.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Like we still, you know what I'm saying? Mynforkers ain't knowing that shit, but it's shit that we have to deal with. And we motherfuckers, when we learned that once you these type of people that you're going to deal with situation, no matter what, you got to remove yourself from the situation. But you didn't have to. You could have gone and worked at a radio shack, right? nah my brain the way my body my brain is i ain't listen to my mama right i'm gonna listen somebody else out this lady i love the deaf lady i listen to love everybody that i ain't
Starting point is 00:36:52 listen to the old homies big homie i just get my ass whipped i'm shooting that nays i'm doing this all day i didn't listen no not a damn thing grab you gun i'm grab my gun we could do what the fuck you're gonna do right you're talking about nigg but you've made those decisions even with like every part of society basically all through school telling you not to do that aside from bros the rap you're listening to everybody i don't listen to you know nobody because at the end of the day I do it's in my heart I got a good heart so I do it some of my heart type shit you know I mean and I'm gonna listen to you if it makes sense I'm not gonna you're not gonna just tell me this being that because you say that you older
Starting point is 00:37:24 than you know you're saying this and I gotta make sense I gotta make sense what you're telling me you gotta you gotta tell me two plus two is four you know what I'm saying not five plus five is four you can't tell me that expect me to listen to you because you bigger than me or you this and that you gotta make sense the worst criminals probably had a parent that was like telling them don't do that oh yeah my I was a motherfucker, everybody in the hood, knew me. I didn't get my ass with, like, 10, eight times a day for the nigs outside, inside, school, anyway.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And I'd be laughing all day. I don't go for it. So assholes ain't never been in anything. Like, trouble ain't, nothing to me. I'm not out of deal with that with, like, no problem. Right. Well, you were saying, like, when you don't talk enough, it allows people to be able to create their own narrative.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And there people from the youngest think that I'm out here doing this, when I'm just trying to live and I'm fighting the motherfuckers' ass trying to keep me from smile. I don't feel like I'm weird because I'm, smile or feel like I make them uncomfortable because I'll move or this and that and that's what it be you're I'm saying it's kind of like they want you to be something that you're not like they want you to be the sort of stone cold killer motherfucker no listen that's the thing see this the streets don't know the stone cold killer is the ones that's quiet the ones that you're never gonna know that's the facade no one nobody wants to see that dude rap yeah the next you put that thing is like why you don't got that same face on when they put a gun in your face you bad that same face on that same step all that this and that isn't that When niggas run down on you with your man, with your family, you gotta have that same shit. I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:38:47 So that's what I say. It don't be that real, bro. It don't be that. Yeah, they got to relax. And then my whole thing is what you feed in the streets and you feed in these kids. You know what I'm saying? Don't feed the streets.
Starting point is 00:38:58 You don't feed the kids that you know you ain't do that. You ain't put that blood on the streets. Why is you feeding the kids that? Why was you feeding the streets that? And then the niggas, you, you talk about your brothers all the time. You're talking about your cousins or this and that. What you like, I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:10 And then you don't even know what they did it for? or with this and that, you know what I'm saying? So that'd be the bad shit I do hate about the game. Because young people do, some young people do listen to that. The rap game, previous to, like, the modern age where you could have all these young-ass kids was, like, screaming into the camera
Starting point is 00:39:25 and making their own rap videos. The rap game is a bunch of millionaires who don't have to break the law talking about all this criminal shit, talking about popping pills, talking about spraying up blocks, all this bullshit that they, if they ever did it,
Starting point is 00:39:37 it was a long-ass time ago. But they talk about it as in present tense, like as if it just happened yesterday and all these kids listen to it and they want to do that shit and then now you have the young up-and-coming rappers from a place like Brooklyn who basically are doing that
Starting point is 00:39:51 and then are also rapping about it. You know what? I could say against that because I understand why some of the artists do that even if you say it's a long time because it's traumatization. So you could lose your friend from 10 years ago and I lost my friend from 14 years ago
Starting point is 00:40:06 since I was like 13 and when I see his mom's here I still cry. Right. You know what I'm saying? Why, like, I see his moms, I still. But that's some real shit. There's a lot of people just doing some dumb shit saying, like, I sell bricks, I do this, all that.
Starting point is 00:40:18 It's like, okay, whatever. Just, like, put negativity out there because they got nothing else to say. There's a lot of that going on, too. I feel like it's entertainment. And also in entertainment, as I say, some rappers do it to speak other people's lives. But my whole thing is that you got to also tell these kids what it is, what it's here for at the real. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:42 Definitely. I saw an old interview where you were saying that your waves would be in by 2022. I forgot about duress. The Merey hat goes back on. I forgot about duress. Right. But the cut, you know what I'm saying? It's a work of progress?
Starting point is 00:40:59 It's a work of process. Would you ever get your hair line done if it ever starts to drift upwards? Hell yeah. Yeah? Bitches getting their eyes done. I can get my head on. Listen, they weren't doing that much when you went in. I was born with this hair line.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I was born with this hair line. You came out and 40% of girls got a BBL. Took someone shit from me, you know what I said? My head line a little from me, but what I would say, the girls, they get their ass dumb, I can't get my hair line done. Right. You know what I'm saying? But it wasn't really like that.
Starting point is 00:41:24 You had some freak show-ass bodies, like stripper bitches and shit, right, like butt implants in, like 2012 and shit. Now they all got it, and it looked pretty good because it came right from the stomach. I don't mind. No, I don't mind. I don't mind slapping. Let me in. Let me in.
Starting point is 00:41:38 It slap nice, bro. I ask me. You give it six months. Six months, let it work itself in. It feels real. When you start. fucking when they got it like two weeks ago it can be kind of weird you touch it and it's like a fucking basketball one time i tell you the first time i've ever seen fake titty's the story
Starting point is 00:41:51 i would say this shit is wow funny bro i was about yo some shit was about to go to out like 18 and it's why i went there at miami and you know i start fucking around with these these nicks get money so this girl she had fake tities right but this shit was hard so my head thought it was something else i'm like fuck off you thought you were being fooled They said, no, no. What did you think that the tities were? I said, I said, I was a, dude, I down the push. I'm sitting here?
Starting point is 00:42:28 What the fucking die? What the fucking stuff? Yo, yo, hey, I said, yo, hey, I said, hold on. I said, hold on. I ran downstairs. I said, don't come upstairs real quick. I said, why have he said, I said, I said, some woman, this is hard, bro. They're like, what?
Starting point is 00:42:52 What you mean? So they come, so we talk and we just like, look. You have to do an inspection? Yeah. Make sure everything's on the up and up and up. They're like, yo, my bro, you tripping, bro. I know what you mean you tripping? They're like, yo, my brook downstairs, he used to get money.
Starting point is 00:43:07 He used to this shit. We're from the trenches, you know what I'm saying? He's getting money. He went to the hood. He left the hood already. When we go out of the hood, we call him when we out of town. Like, yo, bro, I'm saying. So we out with him, he gets money.
Starting point is 00:43:17 He's like, yo, bro, that's, ah, that's fake titty. That's how they all. I'm like, what? I say, you got to be telling mehers down home. You don't just be doing shit. I could have been on some drugs or some shit, dick. Diggas. Ah!
Starting point is 00:43:30 The fuck on it! You're gonna chew me. What happened upstairs? Ah! Dich, don't get me! So you don't, hey. You don't just, you feel what I? Like I ain't weird.
Starting point is 00:43:47 You got a blunt roller or anything? He got a little-ass roach. You want me hit the fronto? You want to hit it? Let's go. He hit that shit. He's all both crazy. Come on.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Let me roll this. My boy, Black Dave rolls these things all fucking Shout on my boy Black Dave. He's the reason why I really fuck with the frontos and whatnot. I'm about to show you how to roll a gravel leaf. You know how to roll a gravel leaf. I'm the best roller out of Brooklyn. It seems like such a crazy idea to me
Starting point is 00:44:12 to put the fucking leaf inside the paper. But I mean, you're making the rules. This is Bobby's world. No, it do two different smokes, so we get two different, like, tastes off. I know, it's just so trippy. It's like, yeah, it's fire. What the fuck is happening?
Starting point is 00:44:25 You don't like the paper? I mean, that's cool, man. You like the fronto better? This shit happened. my ass give you a crazy head rush you fuck with Bobby Hill from King of the Hill no Bobby Brown any other I like Bobby Brown your favorite Bobby Brown got there Mike Brown has one of my favorite songs actually which one um don't be cool I love that shit don't big uh ah ah ah you know and my mama listen my mom used to clean this song I'm the
Starting point is 00:44:56 house to that shit all the time and I should been in my head so I was like five if you were born 20 years before you would have been in an ill or and B group like that. Nah, you know why? I'm too, I'm too much of a troublemaker. So it's like, they're like, all right. Well, I was too much of a trouble maker. You were.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I was. You still got to check in on that, right? That's what I like to say. Past tense. I like that, yeah, I can see I got like, I like, that's why I'd be smiling so much. I was. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I was. You could be like an old school rapper and just rap, say like, back in the day before every bar. No, like I'll shoot you. It's like, back in the day, I would shoot you. No, but I can't say back in day, I will, because I still, if I have to, But, you know, I keep myself away from the situations.
Starting point is 00:45:33 And that's the thing you got to keep it real with them. So the people who, you know, because there's kids that's going through them shits in the streets that they're going to do it regardless. So my whole thing is you got to think smart. This thing's amazing, by the way. Do you like it? You know, you'd be my blunt roller. What?
Starting point is 00:45:47 You can just, like, come on tour with us and, like, you know, you could do the show and then you also roll me some splits. Let me hit it. I'm just an idea. Let me hit it. You have a roller? No, you do all your own rolling? Yeah, because muffing don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:00 No, no, you got nine guys with you. Who stripped 18? Huh? They don't out of roll, bro. Roddy Rebel can't roll one properly? Roddy Rebel, this nigga be having wild doodle coming out the back of the fifth, bro. That shit, I'll be happy, I'd be tight, bro.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Hit that shit on my lip. How are you going to do your man's like that? Daddy's a savage. You don't get to tell you. You don't look too happy about this conversation. Right, you got a savage? Oh, so doodle. When we say doodle, that's like the back of this fifth.
Starting point is 00:46:31 the grab will start coming out when it gets moist You get that in your mouth, though Yeah Who do you fuck with Musically Coming on New York right now Everybody really
Starting point is 00:46:41 Jake Pridge fucking Who's the other young boys Coming up Everybody bro All the underground rap was The top rap was like They're out there You know besides me
Starting point is 00:46:53 And Routy in the gang It's like Everybody's sleepy I'll fuck with all them I'm saying Okay You were locked up Throughout the
Starting point is 00:47:01 entirety of the pop smoke saga, which was like the craziest thing since you that happened in New York. Yeah. I used to talk to him on the phone a lot, so I was just, I was mad, nice to tell him, you know what I'm saying, he's telling a lot of shit, but you know, you tell him a lot of shit, we had a deep conversation. I was just mad I can get to get out side with him, you know what I'm saying? That would have been a beautiful moment. Damn. What's it like for you watching the K-Flock thing happened? That's crazy. Next big artist come out in New York. I love flocks, sir. I like that little Nick's sad. I let him fuck with that.
Starting point is 00:47:30 That's my guy. Okay. But, you know, I'm just, I'm wishing the best right now, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, for the alleged charges, they're pushing on them,
Starting point is 00:47:38 you know what I'm saying? I'm wishing the family the best. I'm wishing the whole team the best and everything, you know what I'm saying? And I hope he beat them alleged charges, you know what I'm saying? Because he got a lot of,
Starting point is 00:47:46 a lot of shit to, a lot of future brightness. He got it. I hope, you know what I'm saying? Everything just wake all the young kids up and let niggas know, like how fast that shit could just. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:55 You know what I'm saying? That would be a sad story if that's the end of that chapter. We ain't going to think like that. You got to stay positive. For sure. For show. Bobby Schmurter, in the building. Let me take a look at these questions that we have written down here.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Oh, yeah. That was the GQ interview where you said that your waves would be in by 2022. That was just like recently. So I guess I got to give you a couple in there. Look, like two or three in there. Like two or three in there. Yeah, they're coming in. I don't know who says she'd be, they'd be grabbed my head.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I'd like stop grab my head. Why you'd be grabbing my head? I'm like, stop grabbing my head. They grabbed my ears. Those are the kind of clubs. You remember that just rubbing your head and shit? No, every time they be chilling, they grab the back of my head. They do this shit.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I'm just fucking my hair up and shit. Do you get out of prison and they just give you a box of Amirai hats? That's how it goes these days? Do the bros. If you're a rapper, they just, here, a miry hat. Not my bros. Okay. They hooked it up?
Starting point is 00:48:47 Yeah, they get it from. Did it take you a minute to get accustomed to the new drip? You fell right back into it? You come out with a stylus? They did you wear clothes in prison. Do they? I did. I read an article about a guy getting to Rikers Island for the first time and the boss, like the gang boss of the fucking section, had like Prada shoes and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Yeah, people walking around with Pradas, Valenciagas in prison, all types of shit in prison. That's an extra shit. That's the last thing you should be worried about. No, they don't do it. The family should be getting it for you. Just they, you got, that's the shit. The family just bring it for you. I like, the fuck I bring it to you.
Starting point is 00:49:22 You were dripping in there or not? I was driven since I came out to pussy. What's the best ways to kill time in there, though? I used to write and dance. Listen, music, write, and dance. Stay active. Have wild parties all day. Parties?
Starting point is 00:49:42 Wild parties in the cell. You were finding creative ways to have fun? I got a creative mind state. I just say that. I believe it. So where are you at in terms of releasing music right now? What do you say to the fans who say that? all this time has gone by
Starting point is 00:49:58 that you should have dropped out of the way. It's just in mixing mode right now and you know we just got Southside on the project yesterday so it's even fast it's going to be working even fast. You were in the studio with him? Yeah. What was that vibe like?
Starting point is 00:50:09 On Southside, he's, he's, I got a link with Southside through one of my dogs from the streets. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's one of my dogs. That's one of his dogs type shit. So it's more than just
Starting point is 00:50:19 I think he's like, yo, I got you. I'm gonna take care of if he, I'm, I'm sorry with you and him. I need to, I'm gonna let you hear it right after so we got with him You have a filmer in there I'd like to see what the conversation's like with YouTube
Starting point is 00:50:31 No you're gonna listen to her And you're gonna hear as soon as we get off to this thing Let's do that Because at first like Okay they were comparing it to the Boosey situation In the sense that Everybody was saying free Boosey Free Boosey and then Boosey gets out
Starting point is 00:50:42 And Boosey obviously is a legend And he still has a fucking great career And everything But then it felt like Once Boosie out The people weren't necessarily Showing him as much love to his music As they should have been
Starting point is 00:50:50 Do you feel like that at all? Like a little bit like Damn New York should be behind me more right now? Since I've been out, I feel like I gotta just put more into my marketing. That's what it is. I didn't like, see, the difference was when I was going before, the game is ran different. And that's what I had to learn, how you put music out. You can't just put music out.
Starting point is 00:51:10 You have to have marketing. Everybody who puts music out, I want these young artists to know that. And that's the thing I hate about through the game. When they talk about the rappers, like you talked about the rappers earlier, the game don't tell you that. They ain't going to tell you the young artists about the marketing. They ain't going to tell you about how to put the music. to get these and you know i'm saying to put this here to make sure it's seen here and this and
Starting point is 00:51:28 they don't tell you about nothing that shit right i'm saying but they want to tell you about this and that or they want to tell a rapper oh you're rapping about this and that but you're gonna tell the kids you're saying why you're gonna tell you got to these young motherfuck about business and that's gonna spark their head more don't don't have me around it to try to make me business i mean don't have me around me to make me make you money i'm saying you like let me learn something too now i know all these under the knowledge i know all these independent artists now who are bringing in like a couple hundred thousand a month, like they don't even got,
Starting point is 00:51:57 they don't even need a label, and they're doing great for themselves. Do you ever look at that and think that could be you or you think that you want the label? You want that manpower? No, I got the label. I don't know, I got the label. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:06 You know what I'm saying? Got the label. When you came out, I want to like that word. People in the game, though, like I got the label, but I got to keep professional. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:14 You feel me? 100%. What are you really trying to accomplish this year? Drop the album, make the album go crazy. You know what I'm saying? Get a label. I'm saying. Get this shit out. Get this shit pushing down. Once this album, I just want to get this documentary and this movie out.
Starting point is 00:52:31 100%. You know who else they freed recently? Who? Britney Spears. She was locked up? Not like locked up, but her dad had a conservatorship where he got to control everything she did. She couldn't control her own business or anything like that. See, but shit like that. And that's what I think we should preach into the kids. How they're young before they signed. Don't sign your career over to a random ass corporation you know nothing about. Yeah, but remember if you're coming from the streets and all you're doing is selling crack and you shoot the shit, you're having a music video. You're shooting the same day. You have a music video, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:05 You coming from the streets where it's lit like that. You know what I'm saying? And you don't know nothing about no contracts. You don't know nothing about none of that. They're telling you, I'm shooting for $20. They tell you didn't get your million dollars right here. Because they're looking to young motherfuckers when they know a young nigga don't know his shit not worth your shit. I saw over $8, $7 million for these motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I'm not knowing that at the time. I'm just shooting niggas. Same day I'm having a video shoot. Same video shoot, ah, lightenigs up in and then go dance after. So it's like shit like that. So motherfuckers are from the streets. They don't know none of that. That's a busy day.
Starting point is 00:53:36 They're not going to tell you. I'm just saying, man. That's a long day. But you feel me? They don't tell you how to manage your business. They ain't going to tell you how to run a business. They're going to tell you how to maintain a business. And that's the shit that niggins need to taste to your motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I'm gonna tell about teaching motherfuckers I'm gonna tell about teaching motherfuckers son Right How to run their business Manage their business And maintain their business Could you see yourself
Starting point is 00:53:57 Having your own Artist like I'm doing all that right now I'm learning that's the whole thing and process I'm learning everything right now See when I came home I had the whole reset Right Everything got reset
Starting point is 00:54:08 You feel like you're back to normal now Did it take you a little bit to get back to that speed Because it's kind of hard for me to imagine You moving at a slower speed With the career and the career point I was living life At the career point I was like doing music
Starting point is 00:54:19 but also having fights with my career to at certain points. Fights. Right, when you got home. You probably wish that you could have came home and right into the smooth situation you already wanted to be. I would sign the whole six years in jail. Right. So I was what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:35 You ever heard of a label keeping them up fucking six years in jail? Do they? I don't know. Normally they don't want to like that or somebody unless they got to, right? So that's what it is when I say, nix can read between the lines, but at the same time, I'm on contract. So I can't.
Starting point is 00:54:48 You know what I mean? Yeah. But motherfuckers know what I can't. Can't bust the moves you want to bus. Because at the end of the day, it's business. Mm. 100%. You're going right back to New York after this, or where you going?
Starting point is 00:55:00 I got to Utah. We're going to Utah. We're shooting, actually, a video. We're going to Utah. Yeah, we're supposed to be shooting a video with Uzi and Routy, and me and Routy shooting video. Why is Uzi in Utah? He'd think he could battle me and dance more like he's trying to tell his motherfucker I can't
Starting point is 00:55:11 fuck me. That's the idea? We got this crazy song. I'm let you listen to it. Really? You're going to go there and dance battle him. On a snow machine. That sounds incredible.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Dings can't fuck with me. I keep telling these motherfuckers home. You never break dance, though? No. We could throw some cardboard down right here. I can't do, like, dances, like other people dance. I could do my dances as far as crazy. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Like, I can't do other people. I can do other people dancing to a certain extent, but like certain shit I can't do. Right. I'm not, I'm not going to like, I can't do every dance. I just do my own shit. I do my own vibes. Okay. This is my question, though.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I'm listening to the clubhouse call and I hear Ether the Connect. Shout out to him getting on the call. Ether? Oh, yeah. And he's defending your dancing and saying basically, like, nah, that's just how he is, yada, yada. That's how he came up. There's some Jamaican shit, yada yada.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And then they're asking him, would you dance like that? And he's like, nah. And they're all laughing at him, but he's like, I'm a big fucking dude. And I feel the same way. I'm big-ass dude. I don't know if I can really. I chill around everybody. I know big niggas.
Starting point is 00:56:13 I'm talking about niggas that kill niggas that you come to jail. Your family crying because you ain't come out of jail. You know what I'm saying? And I'm making them dance. I make everybody dance. So that other shit is bullshit excuses. I'm saying? Anything else is excuses.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Anything else is just, it's just motherfuckold. You ain't got no rhythm. That's it. Just keep it like that. Don't say there ain't go gang to shit. No, nigga. You ain't got no rhythm.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Because we don't smoke anything moving, nigger. Fuck's you talking about. Bro, they like gum bouncing off nigger skin. We didn't do that anything. And we dance is still. Y' motherfucker just ain't got no rhythm, nigga.
Starting point is 00:56:43 That's it. So no excuses. No excuses. You ain't got no rhythm. Dance. That's it, Just dance. My shit bounce with niggins, all that, ah.
Starting point is 00:56:51 You know what, bro? They're like, ah. They're gonna do hot nike after, ah. Come see me, you're on the block all day. I'm gonna do it from your crib, my mama crib, yo, what's up? We're doing that. All right. These niggins want to go home, stop playing.
Starting point is 00:57:04 You also missed the fidget spinners while you were gone. Spinning that bitch. That's how he's spinning blocks. I'm playing. I'm playing. I can't make him that joke the other day. They're gonna think I took it from him. See, he get me activated.
Starting point is 00:57:18 He's trying to push the button. All I said was spin. I'm not going to make a push the button, y'all. Nobody said you had to do the spin the block joke. Hey, Bobby, yeah, you activated Bobby. I know. That my friends do that shit. Some of my friends, they'd be fucking with me on there.
Starting point is 00:57:29 We're active. See, look. You know? Not like that. We're doing podcasts. That's kind of active, right? You like one of my schmurders. I'm like one of the schmertes.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Yeah, it's named A-Rod. Maybe I could be a shmurter. Your personality? Your personality, yeah. You think? He ain't got no white boys. No, we got like assholes. We don't asses.
Starting point is 00:57:48 That's all it takes. Yeah, that's it. We do it all like 40 asses. You know I DM'd you right when you got out trying to get the interview? I figured all it was never going to happen. No, you know why? Because at the thing, I had people controlling the Instagram, this, that. You know, motherfuckers was getting me when I first came over with the,
Starting point is 00:58:04 yo, I got you, bro. You just, you just, you just home chill. Let me take it. This nigga, y'all took the girls in the DM, this motherfucker over here doing this. I'm what the fuck y'all doing it. But you let your homies get in. That's a rapper move. I realize is you let your homie run your Instagram.
Starting point is 00:58:17 so they can be talking to the girls. They don't think they're going to tell you like, y'all, I'm going to run all the business for you, do this, that, this, that, this, that. This nigga, doing this, that, and you whip somebody ass. They can just field all the girls that are trying to come through, no?
Starting point is 00:58:28 Line the party up, right? Girls are trouble. Now, all good. Girls are good, but girls are trouble. They get you some trouble. I heard you got hell of bitches out here. No, my gosh. No.
Starting point is 00:58:39 I don't got no hell of bitches. I think there was someone on your team who told me that. I ain't got no hell of bitch. Maybe I was confused. I'm looking for three girlfriends. This is just a mere three. Miami Diorke L. Oh.
Starting point is 00:58:52 He almost hit his head. You almost got a concussion right there. I'm fucking right. I'm fucking around. Brooklyn stitches only. Let's go. Bobby Shmurda. I appreciate you coming through, man.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Legend in the building. He already been interviewed many times since he got out. So I don't know. I've tried to just have fun with it, you know? Yeah. I'm glad we stayed away from the sex addict thing. Well, yeah, you are a sex addict.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Talk about that? You're a sex addict too. Nah, I'd just be having sex for money. Some sexatic shit. Onlyplugtalk.com. You know what? I got a podcast where we fucking interview the girls and then we fuck them. You're like, for real?
Starting point is 00:59:30 Oh, God. Me and my girl. Onlyplug talk.com. It's only $5 for your first month. See, I just slipped that in. I think that's when I get mad. You like that idea, though? You can come on and fuck some girls or something.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Bob, you better. You know Brian? Is? Who? Bobby Pumpwood. Yeah. Bobby Dunner. Bobby Bop.
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