No Jumper - The Bobby Shmurda Interview: Dancing Controversy, Prison, Girls, Fronto & More
Episode Date: February 1, 2022Bobby sits down with Adam for a casual and candid conversation. Bobby reflects on his upbringing, the ups and downs, making better choices, spreading positivity with his dance moves and looking forwar...d to everything he has in the works! New documentary coming soon! https://www.instagram.com/itsbobbyshm... ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We ain't here.
I never thought I was going to get this interview.
Why not?
Because when you got locked up, I wasn't even interviewing rappers yet.
Yeah, but we two birds of a cow, they said birds of a feather flock together, right?
Yeah.
Just because we got a good taste in vagina.
Wait, so this is what y'all do.
You just hit it.
times in a lot. Yeah, I don't know.
Got past that in you.
It was too much. I ain't been in New York in
a while, so I'm kind of slow with
a lot of the communication and shit. But I
never really had homies with like a cool handshake in the
first place. Never? Nah.
White people just aren't that advanced. We don't just don't
think like that, I guess. Some people
though, I don't give handshakes, so I just
punched them with some shit. Yeah. I might punch them.
I might punch him. I might punch him.
You got a stupid-ass motherfucker. You're the definition of that, like,
Brooklyn energy
of just fucking hit you in the face.
He's like, well, actually, I mean, like,
obviously 90% of dudes in Brooklyn ain't like that.
But, like, you just got that crazy.
I know, I'm known dudes in New York like you.
Hold on, what you just said?
What?
90% of people in Brooklyn ain't like that?
With the energy.
Most of them are pretty, like, laid back, quiet.
But there's one of you.
Brooklyn nigs is hooligans.
The thing is, Brooklyn motherfuckers is hooligans.
They just, like, low about it.
They like to act smooth about it.
That's the thing about New Yorkers.
We like to, like, call it down a little,
but we wild this shit.
We were like people don't know we wild.
New Yorkers, you got to be, like,
really, really good at crime.
You can't, you can't, like,
get yourself out that much
because it's so, like, there's so much protection.
When you come in New York,
when you make it in New York, you make it anywhere
because it's so, like, you'd be so smooth with shit.
Like, you'd be sitting next to a murder every day,
you wouldn't even know.
All my time in New York,
I would just always think that when I was seeing,
you know, young people moving around and shit
and just be like,
they grow up so fucking fast
because it's so dangerous.
Yeah.
You meet a girl in New York,
she already, like, knows how to act
when a dude hollers at it because,
I know a million girls in my life
who will come.
come from Connecticut or whatever.
Everybody screaming at him on the street that traumatized from having do is holler at them,
24-7.
What should you go learn to hollered at him?
I've been in a relationship for five years.
We're currently engaged.
I ask them if they want to make some bread on, Onlyfans.
Where?
Actually, you do?
Well, I mean, it works for me.
It's hard to find a better, like, you tempt them with money.
That's so much better than, like, what?
Like, what is the average guy trying to sell a girl on?
Just a good time?
Some jokes.
You guys are some jokes.
I told people with jokes.
Jokes always got me to pussy.
Yeah, jokes and smile.
Jokes and so smile.
Just being around the gang.
Just being around the gang.
That's the selling point.
You just get around the gang.
You just get to kick it.
You know?
Papa Molly with the gang.
Papa Molly with the gang.
God damn.
What are you doing on LA right now?
On video shoots.
We're doing some video shoots.
I'm doing a script right now.
Okay.
With some writers.
Actually, we got a movie.
We're writing a movie right now.
You're smirder movie?
The movie and the documentary.
Okay.
Actually, I just signed a deal with our Master Pills, so I'm doing this documentary with them, too.
Really?
So you're going to do the documentary about your life, and then what's the movie about?
The movie's about the life, because once I started telling them, I told them like four parts of my life.
They're like, what the fuck?
You can't fit all this in the movie.
It's like, what the fuck?
Right.
They're like, yo, how are you going to do?
Like, you need this part.
I'm like, then take that out.
Oh, no, people need to know this.
And I'm like, what about this thing?
They're like, oh, no, people need to know this.
Right.
I'm like, goddamn.
So it's like they doing the documentary, anything,
because there's so much shit that motherfuckers
just don't know about me.
You know what I'm saying?
And like the smile, I'm a motherfucker like the smile.
Once you see the smile, you ain't going to no nothing.
Right.
I'm saying, I know how that power since I was young.
Like, the smile gives, just disguise everything.
So you think your powers are meant to be distributed
in many ways besides just rapping?
Just a smile.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Was that always the plan?
Yeah.
I'm gonna spread joy, you heard?
And I come from the nassies, nasty is a place.
Like, you see shit in the whole ways.
And I ain't like motherfuckers that I have fucking life in prison and shit.
And I had them crying laughing.
Like they'll I'm gonna make you laugh or make you feel sometimes like, you know what I'm saying?
Cause we come from the gutter.
So I like to get the people that moment where you just feel free.
You know when you just feel free?
That's what I'm about.
You don't get depressed?
No.
When people, I see people smile and make me smile.
So when I see people sad, I don't like shit like that.
I'm like, so I was young.
I'm like, yo, what I'm going to get up.
Nige, come on, go.
Let's go do something, man.
Right.
But you never lost that even through doing all that time and shit.
you gotta imagine that it's gotta really take its toll on you man yo i don't like to tell people
really about the jett because you know the documentary and everything but when i was in jay i was wild
bro i was like you're having a little too much fun i heard about that
oh it's fishing on me
yeah what you heard about when i was doing jay i mean we don't got to get into too many details
but you know i heard there was some shit going on it was wild it was like it was like a high school
you know right and i mean you're in there with all this fame
all of a sudden, too.
So you're like the superstar of the jail, right?
It was sad because it was like I was known in jail.
Like, there's famous people in jail already.
Like, jail have famous people.
Okay.
Every state, you can ask anybody, jails have famous people already.
Who was the famous people in your shit?
No, you got like gangsters.
I'm talking about.
Not famous people that's like just people that,
and I was a nigger, unfortunately, that was known in the system before I was Bobby Shmurter.
So when I was Bobby Shmurdy, like, what the fuck?
Right.
Everybody I knew from juvenile.
Everybody did.
So they, what the fuck you doing it, nigga?
Like, type of shit.
But was it a good thing for the most part, or was it bad?
Like, you were in there.
It was embarrassing.
It was kind of embarrassing, right?
Yeah, but respect is when it's kind of embarrassing.
Like, we know you about that.
What the fuck you're doing here, though?
Right.
Hey, what's you doing?
The craziness of me was because I lived in Brooklyn for like seven years.
And I left in like 2010.
And then when I leave, I really start, you know,
seeing like Chief Keefe pop up and like all this shit,
like all this different street shit.
When Chief Nell came out, Louis,
Chief of them changed a lot of shit.
When Chief of came out, I was locked up.
I was locked up.
a gun charge when Chief and all of them came out.
I don't like, you know, I came home like,
Dirk and on those on Wilden.
I came on like 2012, like the middle of 2012.
Because when I first seen you, that's what I thought is,
oh shit, this is the Brooklyn version of what's going on in Chicago.
Like the kids are really having their say, like the young ass, gangster-ass kids
that I knew in Brooklyn, because you just reminded me so much of all the dudes I used to ride bikes with in New York and shit.
You know any BMX dudes?
BMX?
BMX.
Oh, no.
You never got into that.
My mother's always be in the hood, though.
Yeah.
They always be like round through on highway.
I'm on Kings Highway.
Yeah.
There's some legends out there.
I'll give you some education.
I'm scared bikes, bro.
Why, because you're not coordinator, right?
No, yeah, bro.
Like, me, my whole body's unorthodox, so I don't know what's going to happen.
Like, when I wake up, I don't know what's going to happen.
You always been like that, though?
You always been trashed sports or anything?
Yo, bro, bro.
I've been, like, a bunch of energy that I couldn't contain.
Blah.
They tried to put me on medication that I was young.
Really?
So like a bunch of energy, but I can't, like, I don't know why I just can't go.
It don't go.
It don't go.
I'll shoot it and go all the way up the fuck.
I don't know.
You want to shoot a basketball, you have to do a very controlled motion.
Yeah, I don't have to see, that's the thing.
Me and control is very, a lot of control.
Ah, control is like left or I'm like right, you know what I'm going to ask with it to
basketball.
It never makes sense to me.
I don't know.
That fucking hole is so far away.
Golf?
You can hit that, that ball, like a whole block, like a couple blocks?
I never played golf
I was always like watching my dad
doing this shit and I'm like you fucking serious
you think I'm gonna go out to this fucking field
and just whack a ball and just
like why would I do that?
Like it's way too far away
your dad's rich as shit huh?
Nah
Nah
Oh no
I don't think golf's a rich people's sport
YouTube's a rich sport
And raping
You got more money than your parents
Huh?
You got more money than your parents
I mean yeah right
Well, I take care of them, so it's the same thing, I guess.
They got as much money as me.
My parents ain't letting me take care of it.
I say that, right?
They got as much money as me.
There you go.
It's a beautiful thing.
Okay.
What do you think your fans want to see us talk about it?
That's one thing I was wondering.
Because you are out here on a media tour talking to everybody.
They want to talk about the album.
They want to talk about the features on the album.
We want to talk about what's going on with the music.
They want to talk about the music.
They want to talk about the dances.
They want to talk about the press.
They want to talk about anything.
I feel like they want to hear about anything.
Which I want to talk about it.
Which I won't hear about.
I'm going to focus on one of those things.
The dancing.
Out here on the West Coast, the clubhouse rooms is going up.
Everybody got an opinion about what you know and Bobby Smirder doing.
They girl probably watching so they're mad.
The girl probably over there watching.
Fuck this motherfucker don't you know.
Yeah.
How do you feel about that?
What, guys talking?
I mean, how do you feel about the suggestion that you're like less gangster because of the dancing
or that you're losing touch with the streets, I believe, might be the quote
as a result of some of the dance moves.
I'm saying people see me all the time, so...
Same ice stuff for the time.
Right.
Try it.
Try it.
Try it.
Diggick.
Try it.
That's dirty right there.
Try it.
Try it.
Try it to tip in there.
Please.
Try it.
Shit like that, you know what I'm saying?
Try it.
With a smile, baby.
I'm saying?
With a smile on.
Right.
I'm saying?
They got to pretend to do all that.
That's why they got to do it.
I does it with a smile.
You came in the game dancing.
I was saying, yeah, I kept in the dance.
I was like four years old.
I've been busting a nigga shit open since I was five, six.
I mean?
Nobody was really thinking about it back in the day.
They were like Bobby's gangster as fuck,
but they weren't really worried about the dances back then.
You know, everybody's going to say this and that.
It's like I got more money now, so I'm not,
I don't see certain people.
And when they do see me, it's not as that is love.
I'm saying?
So it's like, it's for the internet.
You're not an internet shit.
I'm not about to be arguing on the internet.
I'm grown ass, man.
The day I argue on the internet,
I'm a bitch.
bitch-ass nigga. The day a
nigga get me to go up, grab my phone up.
Fuck, y'all nicks talk about. Get the password open.
Get the password open. Why don't go get the address and go holl at the nigga?
Right.
They ain't brain science.
That's what they'd be doing these days. You see all the
all the dudes, that's one difference from when you went in,
when you got locked up to when you got out,
is that all of a sudden it became super normal
to be staring into your phone screaming
saying I smock your fucking cousin.
I'm going to tell you said, like,
Niggas I grew around, they know that already from the hood.
I was one there for us.
I don't play that dumb shit.
I'm not going to do something.
We're going to do something.
We're not in time for this, back and forth and all this.
I got too much games and all this shit going on.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just one, too.
You know what I mean?
It's not all this is doing all this extra shit for.
Who are you grabbing phone for?
If I was in the hood, they didn't grab the phone down,
I'll slap the shit out.
You bha fucking grabbing the phone for,
nigger.
Let people know what the fuck wrong with you, yeah?
But you're already on.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
What about the nude kids who,
They're not famous yet.
They need to get famous by screaming into their iPhone and throwing up sets.
Let your name talk for you.
Yeah.
I used to meet people.
This is real shit, right?
I used to meet people and they used to tell me shit about me that they didn't even know they were talking to me.
Let just let your name talk.
Your name was so big that they didn't even realize.
This was the face.
They said, chew, yeah.
I'm like, word that black motherfucker did?
And I mean, the brothers would be live.
I mean, the brother should be live.
I look at this motherfucker right.
I look at a shit.
She said, yeah.
Yeah, they say he shot up in a.
I just looking at him up.
Why?
He's dead white.
I'm like, what that nigga did?
That crazy black, the guy.
I heard he be over there.
I got here.
I'm from Brooklyn.
What you want to be?
Right.
You will me?
This is the thing, though, is it must feel kind of weird to like, well, is there dancing in prison?
Yeah, nicks are dancing.
They call me happy for you in prison.
They used to be crying, laughing.
Okay.
How much, I first got in there.
I first got in there.
You know who used to get mad with it?
It's always old niggas.
I try to sleep this six o'clock in the morning this thing I'm dancing.
Chow ass up, nigga.
It's look like the hotel.
Niggins full of like, bhr-fucking tell me about.
So we lock out of sleep.
He's fucking sicken talking about.
Dang it.
I got nothing else.
Dude, you know what I'm saying?
I'm saying.
I assume for like 99% of people doing prison time that there's no dancing.
No, I make people, everybody dance.
But you had your cell walk turn time.
I make the COs, everybody dancing, everybody from the, for the niggas who wardens, everybody.
Everybody, I make everybody to that shit.
Right.
And that was before I was Bobby Shmerdering, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
But dancing, while you were locked up, also, it became so much more normal because
like Tic Tag and shit like that.
Now it's like, you see all these gangsters dancing.
Yeah, that's what games do.
Gags are going to do what the fuck I want to do.
I'm not thinking about what somebody telling me, oh, you can't dance Bobby.
Let somebody tell me I can't dance.
Right.
Let's somebody, what they're going to do?
But like, in the case of Wack 100, I don't think he was like saying you can't dance.
He was just saying that he thinks it's having a bad effect on how you.
perceived by gangsters, I guess.
Ain't right.
Who you're talking about the love and hip-hop,
niggas?
I don't think Wack 100 was on loving hip-hop.
What was he do?
That would be tight if he was.
What was he do?
Podcasts?
He managed some artists,
blueface in the game.
Oh.
That's still going to fuck by that.
I'm not going to fuck with the game.
You know what I'm saying?
But he's nothing to talk about.
Okay.
Well, we don't have to name.
I made a million dollars this week.
This week?
Why would I want to talk about Wack Weddy?
Uh.
Just
I don't fucking talk about wacky
Honey
I don't see my lawyer
This guy
I'm fucking fucking about whack
What I mean
Okay but here's a question
I'm sure that the clubhouse rooms
Will be interested in
Is there any dance moves
That are
Over the line
That are off limits
The macarena
What's that?
Like
Dda
Duda
Duda
Duda
Now my Spanish
Bhabi
Yo every time they're drunk
Smile with Spanish girls
They do that all the time
They get drunk
And they be like
D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D.
Dee, thee, they made me do that shit with time.
You pick up dance moves from the Spanish girls you'd be fucking with?
I pick up dance moves from everywhere, bro.
I was a group-ponged, I was not a person.
I had to get kicked out of everywhere.
They had no behavior when I was young.
But I was a funny motherfucker.
So people were like, it was like a pro in the con.
I was really bad, but I was funny.
Right.
I don't know people liked me.
You always been open to suggestion you see something fly, making your own.
I was, yeah, that's your own.
I'm not a person that got that prison mind, though.
When I say prison, people that never been in prison
got a prison in mind where you feel like you can't think
because somebody's going to tell you it's not cool
or some shit or whatever.
I don't know.
You're an individual, that's for sure.
You're not just following along with what everybody else is doing.
Mine is our bad man.
Tell them bring the army, bring the army,
and I'm going to shot for everybody.
You lost me at bad mon.
You lost me at bad man.
That's good.
That's good.
You're a bad man.
I'm going to be honest with you,
my whole life I've been listening to people
talk like that and not knowing what the fuck
they were talking about.
Do you know that white people can't tell what the fuck you're saying?
That means like some people probably could.
That means like renegade.
Bad man?
Yeah, rebel.
Renegade don't follow no rules.
Oh, okay.
What's a bateman?
I don't know and I don't want no trouble.
I don't want no trouble.
It's a USA one, nigga.
I just always hear that.
I don't know what it is.
And you're like, yeah, nigga, ah, ah!
Listen, I got, I go on tops of fears.
I love all my fans, okay?
Like when I saw cry, I love to all my fucking cats.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
The energy, I just like, you know, I'm 40, bro.
I'm 38.
That don't mean that.
I'm rounding up to 40.
That don't mean.
I'm just saying, though, there's like there's a lot to compete with on this side of the table.
Yo, I know, I know, I know a 50, a 62-year-old man that get up and do like 300 pull-ups and 300 push-ups every day.
Wow.
And dips and burpees a run.
He's busy as fuck.
This nicks are monster.
You got on the workout program while you're locked up?
I tried, I popped in once, but after that I can fuck with him.
I got one day, I got it out, ah, I spent them.
Let me catch your breath.
But you got all that energy.
It feels like you maybe need to take it out somehow.
Yeah, but I always get in trouble all the time.
I used to fight 20 motherfuckers outside.
I'd be doing a whole bunch of crazy shit, slino car,
a lot of extra energy, a lot of extra energy.
So I was like what I put my energy in.
That's you trying to calm yourself down?
Yeah, I smoke a lot of weed.
I smoke a lot of weed.
Just the weed, though?
Yeah.
You never try to slug.
yourself down with the good shit.
Like what?
Zanax, Lean,
purpose says.
I can't do that.
I don't like Danes.
I smoke weed.
Yeah.
I smoke the weed.
Everybody I know who does those things
also smokes weed.
Nah,
I can't do Zames.
You can't do it.
I like it.
I like Licking like that, bro.
I don't like liquor like that.
I don't like liquor like that.
I've known a lot of rappers who had a lot of fucking energy
and then they just end up drinking Hellaline
and popping hell of pills
and all of a sudden you see them like two years later.
I drunk lean like one time.
I drunk lean like one time for my birthday
when I was like 17.
We was a juvenile.
And my son had it.
My son got it for me.
Actually, my role manager,
he was like in juvie one time.
He's back in the day, like 10 years ago.
We was in juvie.
And my birthday came,
and he got me some things,
some shit.
I'm like,
I don't want that shit, man.
That shit had me smack,
dude.
He's in jazz,
so, you know,
you get me,
you know what I'm saying.
And it takes a certain kind of dude.
Uh-huh.
It takes a certain kind of dude
to want to just basically
drink this expensive that shit
that's going to make you fall asleep.
I ain't go a lot.
My body is,
once it on jack,
I don't go fuck.
What prices on it?
What day?
What's it like?
I'm about my eye.
I don't like it.
Right.
Like that shit out of here.
What time you go to bed?
People have been,
since I was young people have been cursing me out by going to bed.
I don't go to sleep.
I don't know why I'm.
Really?
And when I do sleep, I sleep at the way this hour.
I just pass out.
Really?
I don't be like, yo, I'm about to go to sleep.
I can't just like, yo, Bing, we're going to sleep.
You don't put the little nightcap on.
I can't.
I just be jumping around.
I can't.
Get you get out.
Put your stuff.
Take your shoes off.
You're like a cat?
You're like just take a little map
and then just pop back up a couple hours later.
This, yo, sometimes is you right?
Really?
That's such a rapper thing.
So like, there's no such thing as night or day.
You're just like ready to go anytime.
I used to sell drugs.
Yeah.
So my life always been like before the rapper.
So it was like before I was rap, I used to sell drugs all day.
Three and four new one.
Like my hood, you, I was like, you were liable any given day,
every single day, four or five in the morning.
I'm outside.
I'm brushing my teeth on the corner.
Bunch of guns on me.
We got the black lit.
I mean, shoot, dice, this, this, this, I'm like 14, 13, hold it.
I go to school, like, that shit.
I always always out of it.
Wow, motherfucker.
That's crazy.
I don't think he should have been out there like that.
I used to get in trouble in school a lot, so I stopped going to school.
They tried to control me a lot.
Like, I was bad.
But, like, what you're describing is something that, like, most people think kind of, like,
ended in, like, the 80s or the 90s, like, a kid, young-ass kid being out there
selling fucking drugs on the corner in Brooklyn with hell of guns on him.
Because, like, the Brooklyn that most of us know being in the...
It's just not a good idea.
My mom's kicked me out.
She kicked me.
Fuck out.
She kicked me.
Fuck out.
She didn't play that shit.
Yeah, you're outside in the corner of all of the shit.
Get the shit out!
What the fuck?
How do you feel about the fact that Brooklyn had got, like, so much worse with the gang shit
and people shooting each other.
They said it since you went in.
It's not like all these kids just like learned a lesson.
I feel like, see, the thing is they don't know, like, I'll be telling you your motherfuckers.
Like, they don't understand the rap shit is the way, like the rap shit.
Even if they don't want the rap is the way out for.
motherfuckers like instead of them thinking about doing like because they need something to do right
I'm saying a lot of motherfuckers on the streets they need something to do the studio keep you busy studio you're
shooting music videos you're doing your shows you're doing that they're not thinking about so much this and that
they're expressing their pain and they anger in a different way so I be trying to tell them your
motherfuckers that me I wish I like I ain't a lot I had when I was that age though niggies used to
tell me go to the studio all the time and niggas had to bribe me to go sometimes or like drag me with them
or sometimes I'll go like I come on fuck with that you didn't have the rapper
dream you just you start street dreams at that point you thought that that was a good route I was just
not street dreams I was a little crazy motherfucker bro like you yeah wow 70 asked me what's my
fucking goals I'm gonna tell you I'm trying to serve drugs to get it like buy liquor stored and buy
liquor store about real stage and by this and that this and that when I was sent to you right
yeah if you even if you had known how much money you can make as a rapper though do you think
that that would assuade you or you think you were kind of stuck in your ways already I felt
you know what I was I was stuck in my ways where I felt like I was scared to be a rapper
I was like, oh shit, uh-uh, I'll be shooting nicks for $20.
These niggins is tripping.
20?
Yeah, I was in the hood.
Why, ha, la, la, la, wow.
I said, uh-uh, these niggas is in the rap game be tripping.
I'm like, uh-uh, these niggas made me go tear the whole fucking place.
And they're gonna give me money.
Right.
I was scared when I was 18, 19, especially with the bros.
Right.
But do you think that, like, your, do you think that you would have been in a different situation?
I know how the young nicks be.
Like, they'd be like, damn, they gave me all this money.
Right.
I got ops.
But now it's like required.
Like these young kids, they think that they shouldn't even bother rapping unless they got
ops.
They're talking about who they're going to go shoot at, etc.
It's like there's no reason to rap unless they're going to be talking about that kind of
shit.
And I blame you honestly.
I feel like you kind of started that way.
They're all trying to be.
All those kids in New York are trying to be like you, even if they don't remember that that's
why.
You know why I say that you can't blame me, A?
Because if you listen to my music, I don't only talk about just guns old eight.
I know.
But the same way the Chief Keith set that template for Chicago,
y'all really like
kind of show this whole generation
kids is like, oh, you can come from nothing and shit
as long as you're talking about some super real shit, you're clearly
really out there, they all fell in line
and started kind of taking that mold.
You see the thing, I ain't, I ain't know shit no guns in none of my videos.
I don't promote shit like that.
That's smart.
I don't promote, I don't promote motherfuckers that have guns.
Like, anybody's around with the blicky on the train, no?
I don't promote motherfuckers that have guns.
They tell you from the hood when I was in the hood.
Like, I was young, I didn't tell him.
I didn't tell some nicks to go inside.
Like, what you're doing outside?
But what's you doing this and that for?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you say, everybody's like outside, what you're doing outside?
I was like, when I was John, what you're doing outside?
What's your stuff flying?
You're like, what's this and that stuff?
What's this and that stuff?
What's just going to be?
That ain't anybody outside no more.
When we blazing, you know what?
You know what I'm saying?
So that's what when I went up, when I was looking at them,
I was like, y' outside doing the wrong thing, but outside having fun.
Because one way, I want people to get to mess with this,
yeah, they look at me as the shoe, they look at me, this and that,
but I tell motherfuckers, I always had a good personality.
I ain't never do nothing to know.
Nothing to nobody on this world unless some one nigga did something.
Right.
That's why I wrote where I'm a smile on my face.
Do you think that if you had a good mentor at that time who had told you how to finesse the rap game and how to, like if you had really had something, what would you have even listened?
Not finesse.
He told me, I didn't have to tell me finesse.
Once I started making money in rap, I said shit.
I'm on the block making $2,000, $400 on a bad day, $500 on a bad day, sent out of our day.
Telling crack with guns on me, running from police, shooting it,
people shooting nays this that all day
that shit has a
time limit on it
big time
niggas don't understand that
when I was that in the streets I knew it had the time limit on it
I didn't give a fuck
I didn't give a fuck
I'm saying what I'm saying?
Like some people get deep
day where you don't I can give a fuck
but once I found a light that showed me
like oh shit I got a way out
like what the fuck rapper me
rapper that's why I blew up like that like me
Chewy
rapper
Bobby Shmurda.
You did take off and you left it behind, but then
the cops didn't forget about their
prior investigations. They can't forget about me.
Hey, they still talking about me right now. I'll cause
havoc. Like, I'm not your average rapper.
A rapper was like, all right, certain people you're going to hood
when niggas say they rap or they made it.
Like, all right, cool, I can see him rapping and making it.
The motherfucker like me, everybody thought I was going to be
in jail my whole life. That's all he's
talking to me like, hey, he's going to jail.
That motherfucker's impulsive. He's going to
do. Did you like take that in
and not really expect more for yourself?
because you knew that people's expectations were love.
I never listened to people.
That from young, because I was always getting trouble
when I was young, that always cut me from I was young.
I never listened to people.
I always had that, man, it's the fuck up,
because they always telling me, son.
They always going to tell me, son.
So I just smiled.
I'll be smiled looking at the motherfucker like,
you think I'm listening to you, stupid, you just talk.
You know what I'm saying?
So it would be like that, like.
But when you see all these like Brooklyn drill,
rappers, et cetera,
do you see like your influence on that?
Do you realize this is shit
that probably wouldn't be happening
and it wouldn't look exactly like this
if it wasn't for you?
See, the thing,
the only influence I see more
is them having fun.
Yeah.
Doing videos,
dancing.
The guns in the videos,
that ain't no influence on me.
Yeah, they're way worse with you.
Yeah, because me, I influence dancing,
smiling, coming from the street life
and being able to smile.
That's why I smile and dance
and talk about what the shit
that I talked about coming through
and be able to come from
where I came from the psych warts
and the jails and the juveniles
I was 12.
And who y'all I'm saying?
The psych waltzes I was 6.
I was 16.
and the fucking prisons and everybody know my name
and my brothers and my father and like the real ghetto ghetto shit
that people don't know like I didn't did it all
you know I'm saying all from a kid like you I'm saying
I was a big dog when I was 14 I'm saying I can go to school
I can go to junior ice going to I ain't doing that
so I got different type of story from every rapper
even a gangster rapper because what gangster rapper you know
smile like you smile and like this in front of your face
that's a good point I know a lot of people talk to
I'm from the hood I know niggas
that's why they drink all that lean so they can just sort of
get that killer demeanor like because they're fucking barely awake yeah i do it naturally i'm naturally
like that i'm naturally like that some people like getting drugs and shit all that and make their minds
and watch tv and do a bunch of d or shit i don't know you don't watch tv either i don't watch tv like that
i'm gonna go i got edd like i like i could watch tv and i watch it for like 10 minutes i'm gonna
i'm gonna those motherfuck yeah yeah i feel that so you're in the club every night now no studio studio
documentary in the script working on shit I just told you I just did the documentary
I know but I just wouldn't picture that you would be like working on it every
night oh yeah we're working all the time really and the deeply coming out we got
strains coming out you soon about to have the smurder's drain coming out yeah it'd be
it's grown right now as we talk you got a lot to compete with it's you trying to smoke
better than this big chief I need some of that man I got you come on roll some of that thing
got you got to get you on the wago truffle and the mac and cheese man mac and cheese man
What slapping the most?
This one.
Oh, no, the triple scoop.
That's the hardest one.
I need some rapper weed, though.
This is this shit gonna put me to sleep.
This is the shit going to hide me like, ah.
Rapper weed is supposed to put you to sleep, right?
No, the rapids is supposed to make you dance.
I like the shit that make me dance.
The shit that makes me sleep, make me feel like I'm on some drugs.
Like I'm doing the shit that I was selling.
I'm like, hold on, dude.
What kind of weed you normally smoke?
I'm in the trap again, dick.
I used to be the ones.
I'm not the one like, what the fun?
You know what I need that?
I need that year.
You know, smoking good?
since you got home?
I haven't smoked since I was in jail.
Even the...
The whole time you were in there.
You never took a, like...
You used to kick me out of jazz for that.
You can't smoke for a couple weeks
because the pipeline is fucked up.
That's because they come and they come young like,
ah, this black ass motherfucker!
Polar, you got this shit smell like Jamaica!
I'm coming up.
It ain't me.
It ain't mean, is it.
They search just by searching up.
Hey, hey, it be lit.
Like, you're motherfuck.
Wow.
It was ghetto. I tell you it was ratchet.
The guards hated you?
Or they were all right?
They said I was a movie.
They said it was something to do every time I came.
They went like, and I'm there.
Everybody want me in their house.
Everybody wanted me.
I'd be like, yo, y'all leave me along for everybody.
Really?
I don't know.
And so you're fucking the guards?
I mean, allegedly.
No.
That didn't happen.
No, I did not fucking no guards.
Guards do not give people pussy in jail, okay?
Any of them, like, fuckable?
I got head on the dance floor, okay, in the visit.
I got head on the visit.
For real?
Yeah.
Guard?
God.
God's are not doing it.
They're not bringing drugs.
They're not fucking nobody.
They're doing their jobs.
But were there any bad CEOs?
That doesn't strike me as a job
that a pretty young girl is going to want to go into.
Yeah, I see one.
When I'm a mom, I was like 23, she's like 22.
She's like a lot of time.
So she woke me up one day, right?
She's like, yo, get up, Bobby.
Ah, ah, ah.
So I'm like, let me stop.
Hey, wait to the documentary.
He'll give me your trouble.
Yeah.
Whoa.
He's like, ah.
They're like, ah.
They're going to give me in trouble.
You know, my favorite thing I seen that was right when you got out that I seen on Twitter
that there was mad, people mad as fuck, because you had some white girls around you.
I like, yo, bro, I like him from the nabby hair to the blondes, baby.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Ass is, ass, ass, ass, ass, his ass, poon, it's, pump, fun, from once it's nice in this shape.
I'm Jamaican, I like the girls.
I like gellis, you know what I'm like, gellis, you know what I'm like, gellis.
Yeah.
Like, yes, I'm like all type of gals.
I'm like variety of girls.
I like light skin ones.
I like brown skin ones.
I like chalk.
You can't just have one.
The white one.
One flavor.
You gotta go all flavors.
Right now, I'm trying to find out which one I want forever.
So you don't know, you know what I'm saying.
I'm not gonna just lie to a girl in Rushington saying.
And be like, yo, I want you.
I want to, I got to let them know.
Like, I gotta explore.
I gotta see what's, what's hitting for me.
So you don't have a real, like, perspective,
a real opinion about what race has the best vagina
at this point in your life?
I don't believe in shit like that.
I'm biased to like when it comes to picking thing.
I can't pick.
Like, I feel like this one today.
Like this one tomorrow.
I like this one for this.
like this one for that. That's what I feel too.
When people are like, I don't like white girls, I don't like black girls.
I like girls. They're all so incredible.
Oh, soundy. See? Sounded. That's how wet this table.
That's how wet this table. That's how wet she was.
But I like girls, bro. I like girls, girls. Y'all do the music shit too.
Y'all going to put that on. I like girls, girls, girls in the background, girls.
We're going to prison if we do that.
I'll lock us up for copyright infringement.
That's your boss.
You could ask Jay, like, hey, is it cool if we...
Ooh, you got some grab in this?
Who rolled that?
Who rolled this shit?
Who's your grobber roller here?
PJ?
Oh, my God.
He's horrible, bro.
Every time he rolls some shit, I'm like,
should be just flying home.
You don't trust his.
He used to be rolling and get high.
I'm like, you got to take your time with this.
So this is a serious shit.
That's harsh, man.
This is a serious shit right here.
This man went in and did seven years.
He comes out.
He can't even smoke.
right. That ain't right.
How many
those you go through in a day?
How much y'all think?
Five? Hell, no. He did two in an interview.
This guy.
I did like 40, 40, 40. 40. 40.
Holy 30. Holy 30.
Right.
Oh, 30. It depends on what I'm doing
for the day. You know why? Because
it's like, I tell people, like, I smoke and do shit. So I'm like,
I'm like a, you know what I'm saying? Right.
But always with the franto in the fucking paper.
Never a backward.
I've been smoking the shit so I was 11 since I was 10.
But always like that inside the paper?
I smoked the Dutch's first.
I smoked chocolate duchess first when I was like 10.
Then I started smoking.
Old school.
Yeah, thing when I was like 11.
Good old days.
2004 and 5, remember the days?
Right.
But are you staying the fuck out in New York now for the most part or are you just really careful?
No, I'm in New York and in LA a lot because
Rock Nations, New York based in New York and Epic is based in LA right now.
So I'm back and forth.
I got the companies back and forth on Mass Appeal
and other ones I'm showing the script with.
But you're standing your toes at this point
because, like, the New York cops,
they probably got a little glitch against you, right?
No?
They cool with me.
I mean, you did your time.
They cool with me.
You know, I'm saying, you know, I'm getting money.
Now I ain't got time for that shit.
You know, I'm saying.
Yo, bro, that was some dirty shit like they did.
I told you, once I got into the rap,
I left the streets.
I'm saying?
But it's still, they like, uh-uh.
They was mad.
Like, you, how you, jizzy, nigga?
No, not you.
Right.
You could go.
This motherfucker right here!
I'm like, yeah, I'm just like, you know, me what you're talking about?
I'm trying to, you know.
Right.
Come on.
You're like, no, you, motherfucking.
Well, they got all these dudes who are like eight, nine years younger than you
that are doing way worse shit right now
that they can focus their attention on, right?
But I don't know why I would.
I just felt like it was person.
Like, boom, boom.
The cops that indicted me, they're locking me up until like 12.
Like, they're going in my ass.
Shit, like putting me on walls going to my ass when I was like 12 years old.
Wait, in your ass?
You have credit card swipe.
Like that?
Yeah.
I'm like,
get the fuck off me!
Yeah,
I can't throw that.
Shut up.
Shut up.
I remember when I was interviewing
and Shaw Money itself.
The Chinese lady was yelling
in the back.
Shot Money was traumatized
by that fucking shit
when they ran in there.
That was crazy.
He told me that story
before you.
That was regular shit.
That's regular shit
for us.
But you know what it is?
You know, I know the industry.
I tell niggas,
you got to leave that shit.
Don't bring that.
You scared these industry
people.
Don't do that shit.
You better leave that shit out there,
you know what?
You got cap, blah, they don't know what the fuck going on all.
You got these motherfuckers about to catch a heart attack probably.
Your motherfucking ass over here looking.
You can't, you got to be easy, bro.
Right.
Get the breach.
You know what I'm saying?
Get the money.
He came for take care of your daughters, your cousins, your bros that's locked up.
They daughters, they cousins.
I mean, families, this and that, your businesses.
If you could tell me that you really like went through that whole process,
I haven't to go, you know, being arrested, being in there,
realizing you're going to go this time.
And you never had, like, this sad, depressed state about you?
You went through some dark times?
My family, when I see my family's, that's it.
See, the thing, I'm a motherfucker, everybody knows me.
I don't, nigger, I sacrificed myself back and forth.
Like me, I don't, I don't hurt, you know what I'm saying?
I'm saying?
I hurt through people.
So that's what it is, I'm saying.
It'd be them hurting and shit like that.
I feel like that's almost like a pathological level of positivity.
If you just like can't even feel bad about that shit or feel shitty about it,
I'm the kind of person where I was like, you know, if I had a fucking court date hanging
over my head, I only think of you.
about it every fucking 20 minutes.
Since I was young, I was like, I'm more,
I don't give a fuck until I see my mom's cry.
I see certain shit, and I'm like, ah, shit,
I got that tighten up.
I see the family.
I see the kids now.
Now I got nieces and nephews.
Four hours, 17, 18, I have mom, dukes and granny,
you know what I'm saying?
So now when I got nieces and nephews,
it's like, damn, I gotta raise these little
motherfuckers, they call them you all the time,
they this and that.
Fuck, they look like their uncle on,
up, you know what I'm saying?
You're on news for, shooting somebody
or some dumb shit.
They ain't got time for that shit.
Right.
Niggas, niggas who at a certain age that's talking about that, that means you ain't
do what you had to do back in the days on me, so you're still on that type of shit, you
know what I'm saying?
You're still talking about that type of shit for me, you know what I'm saying?
One thing that struck me in this whole dance conversation is that it's like, you did like
the most gangster shit, the most hardcore shit you'd ever have to do through going and sitting
down for all that time.
And does it kind of feel like people are just like sort of trying to drag you back?
Like they want you to be judged on a standard.
You mean crabs in a barrel?
You already been through all that shit?
Yeah.
Crabbs in a barrel.
That's what you mean.
Call them like you see.
Crabbs in the barrel.
You mean like motherfuckers,
we try to drag you back down here.
Huh?
We don't say crabs out here.
What?
Crabbs in a barrel?
That's complicated.
I don't mean it like that.
Come on,
nigga, I'm big.
You know what I'm big,
you know, I'm big hurt, nigga.
Nigger, no, I'm big hurt,
niggis.
But they don't say that as a diss out there?
Um, yeah, but you see, I'm bottom on.
So I say what the fuck I want
I can wait a little day
and I'm, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know, I'm the, I'm the, I was a shooter.
I'm saying, no, no mask, no nothing.
You're like running around saying that
because you can't say it, huh?
I'm saying, all the kids in junior high school,
everybody's gonna tell you the opposite.
Everybody's gonna tell you the kids from junior high school.
They were like five years old
when I was in the streets, wilding and shit.
Right.
They're in high school now and shit like that.
But then how do you tell those same kids
not to do the shit that you did?
Because I tell me, my shit was for reasons.
You know what it was?
A lot of my stories, that's why the documentary got to come out
because people think, oh, they hear you did this and that.
But for what reason?
Because it was a crab in the barric.
I always had his energy in the hood.
But a lot of people that when you go up through the hood and certain people, like, when I was
growing up, a lot of people didn't recognize, thinking they were here by me, but they would
hear me.
They'd be like, this is him?
Why the fuck he acting like that?
And then when shit go down, they'd be like, oh, shit.
That's okay, that's him.
Oh, okay, that's him.
But how do you stop these young kids from wanting to have that same?
kind of reputation.
But the thing is why I try to tell them because the, you know, because I don't,
when people don't talk enough, when I don't talk enough, stories get this and that
and pictures get painted.
And people think that we wanted to do that shit.
Like we still, you know what I'm saying?
Mynforkers ain't knowing that shit, but it's shit that we have to deal with.
And we motherfuckers, when we learned that once you these type of people that you're
going to deal with situation, no matter what, you got to remove yourself from the situation.
But you didn't have to.
You could have gone and worked at a radio shack, right?
nah my brain the way my body my brain is i ain't listen to my mama right i'm gonna listen
somebody else out this lady i love the deaf lady i listen to love everybody that i ain't
listen to the old homies big homie i just get my ass whipped i'm shooting that nays i'm doing this
all day i didn't listen no not a damn thing grab you gun i'm grab my gun we could do what the
fuck you're gonna do right you're talking about nigg but you've made those decisions even with
like every part of society basically all through school telling you not to do that aside from
bros the rap you're listening to everybody i don't listen to you know
nobody because at the end of the day I do it's in my heart I got a good heart so I do
it some of my heart type shit you know I mean and I'm gonna listen to you if it makes sense
I'm not gonna you're not gonna just tell me this being that because you say that you older
than you know you're saying this and I gotta make sense I gotta make sense what you're
telling me you gotta you gotta tell me two plus two is four you know what I'm saying not
five plus five is four you can't tell me that expect me to listen to you because you
bigger than me or you this and that you gotta make sense the worst criminals
probably had a parent that was like telling them don't do that oh yeah my
I was a motherfucker, everybody in the hood, knew me.
I didn't get my ass with, like, 10, eight times a day
for the nigs outside, inside, school, anyway.
And I'd be laughing all day.
I don't go for it.
So assholes ain't never been in anything.
Like, trouble ain't, nothing to me.
I'm not out of deal with that with, like, no problem.
Right.
Well, you were saying, like, when you don't talk enough,
it allows people to be able to create their own narrative.
And there people from the youngest think that I'm out here doing this,
when I'm just trying to live and I'm fighting the motherfuckers' ass
trying to keep me from smile.
I don't feel like I'm weird because I'm,
smile or feel like I make them uncomfortable because I'll move or this and that and that's what it be you're I'm saying it's kind of like they want you to be something that you're not like they want you to be the sort of stone cold killer motherfucker no listen that's the thing see this the streets don't know the stone cold killer is the ones that's quiet the ones that you're never gonna know that's the facade no one nobody wants to see that dude rap yeah the next you put that thing is like why you don't got that same face on when they put a gun in your face you bad that same face on that same step all that this and that isn't that
When niggas run down on you with your man,
with your family, you gotta have that same shit.
I'm saying?
So that's what I say.
It don't be that real, bro.
It don't be that.
Yeah, they got to relax.
And then my whole thing is what you feed in the streets
and you feed in these kids.
You know what I'm saying?
Don't feed the streets.
You don't feed the kids that you know you ain't do that.
You ain't put that blood on the streets.
Why is you feeding the kids that?
Why was you feeding the streets that?
And then the niggas, you,
you talk about your brothers all the time.
You're talking about your cousins or this and that.
What you like, I mean?
And then you don't even know what they did it for?
or with this and that, you know what I'm saying?
So that'd be the bad shit
I do hate about the game.
Because young people do, some young people do listen to that.
The rap game, previous to, like, the modern age
where you could have all these young-ass kids
was, like, screaming into the camera
and making their own rap videos.
The rap game is a bunch of millionaires
who don't have to break the law
talking about all this criminal shit,
talking about popping pills,
talking about spraying up blocks,
all this bullshit that they,
if they ever did it,
it was a long-ass time ago.
But they talk about it as in present tense,
like as if it just happened yesterday
and all these kids listen to it
and they want to do that shit
and then now you have the young up-and-coming rappers
from a place like Brooklyn
who basically are doing that
and then are also rapping about it.
You know what?
I could say against that
because I understand why some of the artists do that
even if you say it's a long time
because it's traumatization.
So you could lose your friend from 10 years ago
and I lost my friend from 14 years ago
since I was like 13
and when I see his mom's here I still cry.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Why, like, I see his moms, I still.
But that's some real shit.
There's a lot of people just doing some dumb shit saying, like,
I sell bricks, I do this, all that.
It's like, okay, whatever.
Just, like, put negativity out there because they got nothing else to say.
There's a lot of that going on, too.
I feel like it's entertainment.
And also in entertainment, as I say, some rappers do it to speak other people's lives.
But my whole thing is that you got to also tell these kids what it is,
what it's here for at the real.
You know what I'm saying?
Definitely.
I saw an old interview where you were saying that your waves would be in by 2022.
I forgot about duress.
The Merey hat goes back on.
I forgot about duress.
Right.
But the cut, you know what I'm saying?
It's a work of progress?
It's a work of process.
Would you ever get your hair line done if it ever starts to drift upwards?
Hell yeah.
Yeah?
Bitches getting their eyes done.
I can get my head on.
Listen, they weren't doing that much when you went in.
I was born with this hair line.
I was born with this hair line.
You came out and 40% of girls got a BBL.
Took someone shit from me, you know what I said?
My head line a little from me, but what I would say, the girls,
they get their ass dumb, I can't get my hair line done.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
But it wasn't really like that.
You had some freak show-ass bodies, like stripper bitches and shit,
right, like butt implants in, like 2012 and shit.
Now they all got it, and it looked pretty good because it came right from the stomach.
I don't mind.
No, I don't mind.
I don't mind slapping.
Let me in.
Let me in.
It slap nice, bro.
I ask me.
You give it six months.
Six months, let it work itself in.
It feels real.
When you start.
fucking when they got it like two weeks ago it can be kind of weird you touch it and it's like a
fucking basketball one time i tell you the first time i've ever seen fake titty's the story
i would say this shit is wow funny bro i was about yo some shit was about to go to out like 18
and it's why i went there at miami and you know i start fucking around with these these nicks get money
so this girl she had fake tities right but this shit was hard so my head thought it was
something else i'm like fuck off you thought you were being fooled
They said, no, no.
What did you think that the tities were?
I said, I said, I was a, dude, I down the push.
I'm sitting here?
What the fucking die?
What the fucking stuff?
Yo, yo, hey, I said, yo, hey, I said, hold on.
I said, hold on.
I ran downstairs.
I said, don't come upstairs real quick.
I said, why have he said, I said, I said, some woman, this is hard, bro.
They're like, what?
What you mean?
So they come, so we talk and we just like, look.
You have to do an inspection?
Yeah.
Make sure everything's on the up and up and up.
They're like, yo, my bro, you tripping, bro.
I know what you mean you tripping?
They're like, yo, my brook downstairs, he used to get money.
He used to this shit.
We're from the trenches, you know what I'm saying?
He's getting money.
He went to the hood.
He left the hood already.
When we go out of the hood, we call him when we out of town.
Like, yo, bro, I'm saying.
So we out with him, he gets money.
He's like, yo, bro, that's, ah, that's fake titty.
That's how they all.
I'm like, what?
I say, you got to be telling mehers down home.
You don't just be doing shit.
I could have been on some drugs or some shit, dick.
Diggas.
Ah!
The fuck on it!
You're gonna chew me.
What happened upstairs?
Ah!
Dich, don't get me!
So you don't, hey.
You don't just, you feel what I?
Like I ain't weird.
You got a blunt roller or anything?
He got a little-ass roach.
You want me hit the fronto?
You want to hit it?
Let's go.
He hit that shit.
He's all both crazy.
Come on.
Let me roll this.
My boy, Black Dave rolls these things all fucking
Shout on my boy Black Dave.
He's the reason why I really fuck with the frontos and whatnot.
I'm about to show you how to roll a gravel leaf.
You know how to roll a gravel leaf.
I'm the best roller out of Brooklyn.
It seems like such a crazy idea to me
to put the fucking leaf inside the paper.
But I mean, you're making the rules.
This is Bobby's world.
No, it do two different smokes,
so we get two different, like, tastes off.
I know, it's just so trippy.
It's like, yeah, it's fire.
What the fuck is happening?
You don't like the paper?
I mean, that's cool, man.
You like the fronto better?
This shit happened.
my ass give you a crazy head rush you fuck with Bobby Hill from King of the Hill no
Bobby Brown any other I like Bobby Brown your favorite Bobby Brown got there
Mike Brown has one of my favorite songs actually which one um don't be cool I love that
shit don't big uh ah ah ah you know and my mama listen my mom used to clean this song I'm the
house to that shit all the time and I should been in my head so I was like five
if you were born 20 years before you would have been in an ill
or and B group like that.
Nah, you know why?
I'm too, I'm too much of a troublemaker.
So it's like, they're like, all right.
Well, I was too much of a trouble maker.
You were.
I was.
You still got to check in on that, right?
That's what I like to say.
Past tense.
I like that, yeah, I can see I got like,
I like, that's why I'd be smiling so much.
I was.
Right.
I was.
You could be like an old school rapper and just rap,
say like, back in the day before every bar.
No, like I'll shoot you.
It's like, back in the day, I would shoot you.
No, but I can't say back in day, I will,
because I still, if I have to,
But, you know, I keep myself away from the situations.
And that's the thing you got to keep it real with them.
So the people who, you know, because there's kids that's going through them
shits in the streets that they're going to do it regardless.
So my whole thing is you got to think smart.
This thing's amazing, by the way.
Do you like it?
You know, you'd be my blunt roller.
What?
You can just, like, come on tour with us and, like, you know, you could do the show
and then you also roll me some splits.
Let me hit it.
I'm just an idea.
Let me hit it.
You have a roller?
No, you do all your own rolling?
Yeah, because muffing don't know.
No, no, you got nine guys with you.
Who stripped 18?
Huh?
They don't out of roll, bro.
Roddy Rebel can't roll one properly?
Roddy Rebel, this nigga be having wild doodle
coming out the back of the fifth, bro.
That shit, I'll be happy, I'd be tight, bro.
Hit that shit on my lip.
How are you going to do your man's like that?
Daddy's a savage.
You don't get to tell you.
You don't look too happy about this conversation.
Right, you got a savage?
Oh, so doodle.
When we say doodle, that's like the back of this fifth.
the grab will start coming out
when it gets moist
You get that in your mouth, though
Yeah
Who do you fuck with
Musically
Coming on New York right now
Everybody really
Jake Pridge fucking
Who's the other young boys
Coming up
Everybody bro
All the underground rap was
The top rap was like
They're out there
You know besides me
And Routy in the gang
It's like
Everybody's sleepy
I'll fuck with all them
I'm saying
Okay
You were locked up
Throughout the
entirety of the pop smoke saga, which was like the craziest thing since you that happened in New York.
Yeah. I used to talk to him on the phone a lot, so I was just, I was mad, nice to tell him,
you know what I'm saying, he's telling a lot of shit, but you know, you tell him a lot of shit,
we had a deep conversation. I was just mad I can get to get out side with him, you know what I'm saying?
That would have been a beautiful moment. Damn. What's it like for you watching the K-Flock thing
happened? That's crazy. Next big artist come out in New York. I love flocks, sir. I like that little
Nick's sad.
I let him fuck with that.
That's my guy.
Okay.
But, you know, I'm just,
I'm wishing the best right now,
you know what I'm saying?
And, you know,
for the alleged charges,
they're pushing on them,
you know what I'm saying?
I'm wishing the family the best.
I'm wishing the whole team the best
and everything,
you know what I'm saying?
And I hope he beat them alleged charges,
you know what I'm saying?
Because he got a lot of,
a lot of shit to,
a lot of future brightness.
He got it.
I hope, you know what I'm saying?
Everything just wake all the young kids up
and let niggas know,
like how fast that shit could just.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
That would be a sad story if that's the end of that chapter.
We ain't going to think like that.
You got to stay positive.
For sure.
For show.
Bobby Schmurter, in the building.
Let me take a look at these questions that we have written down here.
Oh, yeah.
That was the GQ interview where you said that your waves would be in by 2022.
That was just like recently.
So I guess I got to give you a couple in there.
Look, like two or three in there.
Like two or three in there.
Yeah, they're coming in.
I don't know who says she'd be, they'd be grabbed my head.
I'd like stop grab my head.
Why you'd be grabbing my head?
I'm like, stop grabbing my head.
They grabbed my ears.
Those are the kind of clubs.
You remember that just rubbing your head and shit?
No, every time they be chilling, they grab the back of my head.
They do this shit.
I'm just fucking my hair up and shit.
Do you get out of prison and they just give you a box of Amirai hats?
That's how it goes these days?
Do the bros.
If you're a rapper, they just, here, a miry hat.
Not my bros.
Okay.
They hooked it up?
Yeah, they get it from.
Did it take you a minute to get accustomed to the new drip?
You fell right back into it?
You come out with a stylus?
They did you wear clothes in prison.
Do they?
I did.
I read an article about a guy getting to Rikers Island for the first time and the boss, like the gang boss of the fucking section, had like Prada shoes and shit like that.
Yeah, people walking around with Pradas, Valenciagas in prison, all types of shit in prison.
That's an extra shit.
That's the last thing you should be worried about.
No, they don't do it.
The family should be getting it for you.
Just they, you got, that's the shit.
The family just bring it for you.
I like, the fuck I bring it to you.
You were dripping in there or not?
I was driven since I came out to pussy.
What's the best ways to kill time in there, though?
I used to write and dance.
Listen, music, write, and dance.
Stay active.
Have wild parties all day.
Parties?
Wild parties in the cell.
You were finding creative ways to have fun?
I got a creative mind state.
I just say that.
I believe it.
So where are you at in terms of releasing music right now?
What do you say to the fans who say that?
all this time has gone by
that you should have dropped out of the way.
It's just in mixing mode right now
and you know we just got Southside
on the project yesterday so it's even fast
it's going to be working even fast.
You were in the studio with him?
Yeah.
What was that vibe like?
On Southside, he's, he's,
I got a link with Southside
through one of my dogs from the streets.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
That's one of my dogs.
That's one of his dogs type shit.
So it's more than just
I think he's like, yo, I got you.
I'm gonna take care of if he,
I'm, I'm sorry with you and him.
I need to,
I'm gonna let you hear it right after
so we got with him
You have a filmer in there
I'd like to see what the conversation's like with YouTube
No you're gonna listen to her
And you're gonna hear as soon as we get off to this thing
Let's do that
Because at first like
Okay they were comparing it to the Boosey situation
In the sense that
Everybody was saying free Boosey
Free Boosey and then Boosey gets out
And Boosey obviously is a legend
And he still has a fucking great career
And everything
But then it felt like
Once Boosie out
The people weren't necessarily
Showing him as much love to his music
As they should have been
Do you feel like that at all?
Like a little bit like
Damn New York should be behind me more right now?
Since I've been out, I feel like I gotta just put more into my marketing.
That's what it is.
I didn't like, see, the difference was when I was going before, the game is ran different.
And that's what I had to learn, how you put music out.
You can't just put music out.
You have to have marketing.
Everybody who puts music out, I want these young artists to know that.
And that's the thing I hate about through the game.
When they talk about the rappers, like you talked about the rappers earlier,
the game don't tell you that.
They ain't going to tell you the young artists about the marketing.
They ain't going to tell you about how to put the music.
to get these and you know i'm saying to put this here to make sure it's seen here and this and
they don't tell you about nothing that shit right i'm saying but they want to tell you about
this and that or they want to tell a rapper oh you're rapping about this and that but you're
gonna tell the kids you're saying why you're gonna tell you got to these young motherfuck about business
and that's gonna spark their head more don't don't have me around it to try to make me
business i mean don't have me around me to make me make you money i'm saying you like let me
learn something too now i know all these under the knowledge i know all these independent artists now
who are bringing in like a couple hundred thousand a month,
like they don't even got,
they don't even need a label,
and they're doing great for themselves.
Do you ever look at that and think that could be you
or you think that you want the label?
You want that manpower?
No, I got the label.
I don't know, I got the label.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Got the label.
When you came out,
I want to like that word.
People in the game, though,
like I got the label,
but I got to keep professional.
Right.
You feel me?
100%.
What are you really trying to accomplish this year?
Drop the album,
make the album go crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
Get a label.
I'm saying. Get this shit out. Get this shit pushing down. Once this album, I just want to get this documentary and this movie out.
100%. You know who else they freed recently?
Who? Britney Spears.
She was locked up? Not like locked up, but her dad had a conservatorship where he got to control everything she did. She couldn't control her own business or anything like that.
See, but shit like that. And that's what I think we should preach into the kids. How they're young before they signed.
Don't sign your career over to a random ass corporation you know nothing about.
Yeah, but remember if you're coming from the streets and all you're doing is selling crack and you shoot the shit, you're having a music video.
You're shooting the same day.
You have a music video, you know what I'm saying?
You coming from the streets where it's lit like that.
You know what I'm saying?
And you don't know nothing about no contracts.
You don't know nothing about none of that.
They're telling you, I'm shooting for $20.
They tell you didn't get your million dollars right here.
Because they're looking to young motherfuckers when they know a young nigga don't know his shit not worth your shit.
I saw over $8, $7 million for these motherfuckers.
I'm not knowing that at the time.
I'm just shooting niggas.
Same day I'm having a video shoot.
Same video shoot, ah, lightenigs up in and then go dance after.
So it's like shit like that.
So motherfuckers are from the streets.
They don't know none of that.
That's a busy day.
They're not going to tell you.
I'm just saying, man.
That's a long day.
But you feel me?
They don't tell you how to manage your business.
They ain't going to tell you how to run a business.
They're going to tell you how to maintain a business.
And that's the shit that niggins need to taste to your motherfucker.
I'm gonna tell about teaching motherfuckers
I'm gonna tell about teaching motherfuckers
son
Right
How to run their business
Manage their business
And maintain their business
Could you see yourself
Having your own
Artist like I'm doing all that right now
I'm learning that's the whole thing
and process I'm learning everything right now
See when I came home
I had the whole reset
Right
Everything got reset
You feel like you're back to normal now
Did it take you a little bit to get back to that speed
Because it's kind of hard for me to imagine
You moving at a slower speed
With the career and the career point
I was living life
At the career point
I was like doing music
but also having fights with my career to at certain points.
Fights.
Right, when you got home.
You probably wish that you could have came home
and right into the smooth situation you already wanted to be.
I would sign the whole six years in jail.
Right.
So I was what I'm saying?
You ever heard of a label keeping them up fucking six years in jail?
Do they?
I don't know.
Normally they don't want to like that or somebody unless they got to, right?
So that's what it is when I say,
nix can read between the lines,
but at the same time, I'm on contract.
So I can't.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But motherfuckers know what I can't.
Can't bust the moves you want to bus.
Because at the end of the day, it's business.
Mm.
100%.
You're going right back to New York after this, or where you going?
I got to Utah.
We're going to Utah.
We're shooting, actually, a video.
We're going to Utah.
Yeah, we're supposed to be shooting a video with Uzi and Routy,
and me and Routy shooting video.
Why is Uzi in Utah?
He'd think he could battle me and dance more like he's trying to tell his motherfucker I can't
fuck me.
That's the idea?
We got this crazy song.
I'm let you listen to it.
Really?
You're going to go there and dance battle him.
On a snow machine.
That sounds incredible.
Dings can't fuck with me.
I keep telling these motherfuckers home.
You never break dance, though?
No.
We could throw some cardboard down right here.
I can't do, like, dances, like other people dance.
I could do my dances as far as crazy.
Right.
Like, I can't do other people.
I can do other people dancing to a certain extent, but like certain shit I can't do.
Right.
I'm not, I'm not going to like, I can't do every dance.
I just do my own shit.
I do my own vibes.
Okay.
This is my question, though.
I'm listening to the clubhouse call and I hear Ether the Connect.
Shout out to him getting on the call.
Ether?
Oh, yeah.
And he's defending your dancing and saying basically, like,
nah, that's just how he is, yada, yada.
That's how he came up.
There's some Jamaican shit, yada yada.
And then they're asking him, would you dance like that?
And he's like, nah.
And they're all laughing at him, but he's like, I'm a big fucking dude.
And I feel the same way.
I'm big-ass dude.
I don't know if I can really.
I chill around everybody.
I know big niggas.
I'm talking about niggas that kill niggas that you come to jail.
Your family crying because you ain't come out of jail.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm making them dance.
I make everybody dance.
So that other shit is bullshit excuses.
I'm saying?
Anything else is excuses.
Anything else is just,
it's just motherfuckold.
You ain't got no rhythm.
That's it.
Just keep it like that.
Don't say there ain't go gang to shit.
No, nigga.
You ain't got no rhythm.
Because we don't smoke anything moving,
nigger.
Fuck's you talking about.
Bro, they like gum bouncing off nigger skin.
We didn't do that anything.
And we dance is still.
Y' motherfucker just ain't got no rhythm,
nigga.
That's it.
So no excuses.
No excuses.
You ain't got no rhythm.
Dance.
That's it,
Just dance.
My shit bounce with niggins, all that, ah.
You know what, bro?
They're like, ah.
They're gonna do hot nike after, ah.
Come see me, you're on the block all day.
I'm gonna do it from your crib, my mama crib, yo, what's up?
We're doing that.
All right.
These niggins want to go home, stop playing.
You also missed the fidget spinners while you were gone.
Spinning that bitch.
That's how he's spinning blocks.
I'm playing.
I'm playing.
I can't make him that joke the other day.
They're gonna think I took it from him.
See, he get me activated.
He's trying to push the button.
All I said was spin.
I'm not going to make a push the button, y'all.
Nobody said you had to do the spin the block joke.
Hey, Bobby, yeah, you activated Bobby.
I know.
That my friends do that shit.
Some of my friends, they'd be fucking with me on there.
We're active.
See, look.
You know?
Not like that.
We're doing podcasts.
That's kind of active, right?
You like one of my schmurders.
I'm like one of the schmertes.
Yeah, it's named A-Rod.
Maybe I could be a shmurter.
Your personality?
Your personality, yeah.
You think?
He ain't got no white boys.
No, we got like assholes.
We don't asses.
That's all it takes.
Yeah, that's it.
We do it all like 40 asses.
You know I DM'd you right when you got out trying to get the interview?
I figured all it was never going to happen.
No, you know why?
Because at the thing, I had people controlling the Instagram, this, that.
You know, motherfuckers was getting me when I first came over with the,
yo, I got you, bro.
You just, you just, you just home chill.
Let me take it.
This nigga, y'all took the girls in the DM, this motherfucker over here doing this.
I'm what the fuck y'all doing it.
But you let your homies get in.
That's a rapper move.
I realize is you let your homie run your Instagram.
so they can be talking to the girls.
They don't think they're going to tell you like,
y'all, I'm going to run all the business for you,
do this, that, this, that, this, that.
This nigga, doing this, that,
and you whip somebody ass.
They can just field all the girls
that are trying to come through, no?
Line the party up, right?
Girls are trouble.
Now, all good.
Girls are good, but girls are trouble.
They get you some trouble.
I heard you got hell of bitches out here.
No, my gosh.
No.
I don't got no hell of bitches.
I think there was someone on your team who told me that.
I ain't got no hell of bitch.
Maybe I was confused.
I'm looking for three girlfriends.
This is just a mere three.
Miami Diorke L.
Oh.
He almost hit his head.
You almost got a concussion right there.
I'm fucking right.
I'm fucking around.
Brooklyn stitches only.
Let's go.
Bobby Shmurda.
I appreciate you coming through, man.
Legend in the building.
He already been interviewed many times
since he got out.
So I don't know.
I've tried to just have fun with it, you know?
Yeah.
I'm glad we stayed away from the sex addict thing.
Well, yeah, you are a sex addict.
Talk about that?
You're a sex addict too.
Nah, I'd just be having sex for money.
Some sexatic shit.
Onlyplugtalk.com.
You know what?
I got a podcast where we fucking interview the girls and then we fuck them.
You're like, for real?
Oh, God.
Me and my girl.
Onlyplug talk.com.
It's only $5 for your first month.
See, I just slipped that in.
I think that's when I get mad.
You like that idea, though?
You can come on and fuck some girls or something.
Bob, you better.
You know Brian?
Is?
Who?
Bobby Pumpwood.
Yeah.
Bobby Dunner.
Bobby Bop.
Bobby Bumpa.
Okay.
Bobby Shrota.
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