No Jumper - The Boo Bonic Interview: Introducing Beanie Sigel to Jay-Z, Kidnapped by Jungle & More

Episode Date: April 4, 2022

Boo Bonic (from rap group Philly's Most Wanted) tells legendary music industry stories, like opening up for Biggie, almost got robbed by promoters because of a fake G-Dep, talks about his crazy come up, what he has in the works with NFTs, crypto and more!! https://www.instagram.com/theartofalb... https://www.instagram.com/_kingtrell/ ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up y'all? I'm back, man. T-Rail, man. I got a special guest with me here, man. Hip-hop legend. My boy, man, and I'm just so glad for him to be here. My boy, Bonick, man. Just a Philly legend, too, East Coast legend. You know, I'm over here on the West Coast, man. So I really had to really dig dive and, you know, get in there and, you know, learn my shit about my boy. But, yeah, my boy, Bubonic, man. He's here, you feel me? What a dude. Yeah. I like that. Philly's most wanted. I really have to come up, though.

You know, whatever you got going on, I'm going to fuck with it. Yeah. Attitude like. Cancun, I'm a trip. Oh. Brum, you know what I'm saying? I like that, man. I like that.

I like that. Man, it's a lot of crazy talent always come out of Philly. Y'all be doing your thing. And I feel like right now, probably like, I'll say probably like the last 10 years, man. Y'all probably like the craziest spitters solidified in the game. And a lot of people don't be giving you y'all, you know what I'm saying, y'all credit, man. And you one of them. Thank you, brother.

Thank you, brother. You know what I'm saying? Thank you. Straight legend. I feel like Philly is like, Philly known for boxing. Yeah. And rapping. Two things that niggas don't try to give us credit for, but Rocky was even for the

rocky shit. Yeah, but that's the real thing in Philly though. Like, for real. Yeah. That's why I even did it there. Like, from smoking Joe Frazier on down, like, that was like, that's what we do. doing Philly Box. You ran up them stairs?

Yeah, but I used to box for real. You used to box? As a young man, yeah. Everybody from Philly Box. That's what I'm trying to say, like, that's a Philly thing. Oh, so that's why y'all niggas so aggressive. Yeah, niggas be fighting, man. Niggas be rumbling.

Yeah, man. I mean, so much shit, man. You being a legend, like, before I even get into, like, little bonny, like, damn, like, how would you? How did it make you feel, nigger, just to see Will Smith, like, when the first rap Grammy, just being from Philly, like, man, I'm that nigga. I mean, I thought that shit was dope,

and the coolest part about it is it wasn't, like, really far removed from my real life, like, because Charlie Mack, he's like, an OG, he's responsible for a lot of people come out of Philly, period. Like, if somebody came through from me to us on down, they had

interaction with Charlie Mac on some level. And Charlie Mac was Will Smith, security, but really his friend, but he wound up being a security guard back in the day. So like my sister and Charlie, my sister boyfriend, Mark and Charlie Mac, they was right there. So I used to be around, I used to see Will and pull up in the awkward green bins with the rims and all. You know, so like the scene when they grabbed me too, I thought it was obtainable because I'm like, he'd been over the house before, you know what I'm saying? I'm listening to brand new funk as a demo and all this kind of stuff because they got the

tape. So Will was at the house. definitely before yeah I was just talking to j meals and he said bray you see uh big L down the street i'm like never no will definitely pulled up in that bins it was like either aqua blue or aqua green never seen that like it with some wrims on it with his one of his chicks like he was he was killing it i was about to say his baby mom but i don't think it was his baby mom man and you know i i'm i was looking at a whole bunch of shit on the internet man trying to see trying to get a feel for what you be doing you know as far as interviewing and all the little shit trying to you know

I don't do my journey and shit. I don't really get into too many interviews. Yeah, but yeah, you ain't really never, you know. I don't really get into that. I think I'm like your first little, you know, like crazy, though. Because I've seen you with your boy on the couch. But I'm like, you ain't really never dug in that shit, like, really had, like a solid. All my shit been art.

Yeah. Like, it ain't been no real hip-hop industry type of, nah, interviews, no, not really. Because it was kind of like, I feel like. cutting a lot of y'all shit off the internet almost kind of like taking y'all down off the internet because it was kind of like fuzzy yeah almost it was like different other different sites posting your shit and i was like what is this shit and i'm just putting two and two together i'm like hold on they taking my boy down off the internet definitely yeah i feel like niggas try to rewrite history how they wanted to be and that's cool you know i mean i always been real confident in myself my abilities

And so like all that kind of all those tactics, you know, they work for somebody, but like Anybody who ever encountered me, they know what it is with me. Like you know what I mean? They can't dim that light. You feel me like I'm on site more than anything. Like so it's like, yeah, they can take your shit down, but they still got to see you boy. Yeah, and they're going to get to see you right now. We're going to talk about it, man. For my younger viewers and my viewers that kind of like ain't that much in tune with the hip hop culture and what you've been doing and what you, you know, what you seem. So. I want to start with, you know, younger boobotic, you know what I'm saying, how you came up.

Well, I mean, basically, the come up for me was like Big Daddy Kane. That's the nigga that made me want to write. You feel what I'm saying? And then it was like this girl, funniest shit. She had a big-ass butt, but she like was a, like a, I thought she was a, like, the world so since you're right now. You can't even say that shit. She was like a tomboy.

You feel me? Yeah. But she always had the friends. shit on and you know I mean and she used to hear his rap and she's like yo my brother like he like he like exact yeah I'm gonna let him hear y'all and we'd be like man fuck out of head we ain't even know she had a brother and um because he was in New York we know this now so we like we never even see it was just her and her mom and she always had to fly shit on scooters and all that shit so long

story short her brother was Kurt Barrow's that we didn't know but Kerr Barrows started bad boy with puff so this is like early So we go around the crib one day here, around there, and we rap. Like, and he got the little mini Jerry Curl Joan with the, like, the jeans on and some shoes and like a button. We like, who is this nigga, man? Like, you know, like, we ain't in charge. We think it's still some food shit. Yeah.

So we rap for him. He's like, man, you know, we can't really. It was three of us in the group. It's like, we can't really fuck with y'all right now because we got this group called the locks that we just signed. But they're three people, too. but what I can do is I can like shop you around on some other labels some of my friends how old were y'all at the time 19 oh y'all are 19 yeah so what age did you start rapping I started rapping at eight at eight years old yeah yeah godly I used to do art first my dad did it

I was an artist but like I ain't never think you could be an artist you know what I'm saying so I'm listening to big daddy can in them I'm like I'm trying to be on that type of shit so I start rapping so and then y'all grew like so were y'all going to school with each other your group members or just in the neighborhood we lived on the same block couple houses down grew up together so it was all from the from the block literally from the block yeah damn and so 19 your boy said i got the locks already and i'm doing that and he was already from bad boy i mean because in those times bro you really had to really grind ain't no internet ain't none of that shit like so my hard was it for you to be seen in those

days. I mean, just think about who he was telling us he was and how we was handling it. Yeah. That's how hard it was. It was like, we ain't had nowhere we could look to fact check who this nigga is and none of that. So to us, it was like, I don't know who this nigga is. And for us, you had to really grind because it had to be word of mouth. So we was jumping out on every corner in Philly who y'all got, who rapping and just battle them. Like, that's how we got our claim to fame. Like, we was known for just like going. You know what I'm saying? So anybody pull up, well, we pull up on people, and we just let them have it. That's just the truth.

Who made up the name, Philly Most Wanted? We all kind of did, like, but, you know, the funny shit is when we first started going up the label, because that's how we felt. Everybody wanted us out there, like in Philly. We started going up the label, and these was like, y'all should just be called Most Winning, and we could put y'all, like, with some New York people, and y'all could kind of swing it like y'all from New York. We're like, swing it like we from New York. Like, nigg, we're from Philly.

Why would we do that? Philly wasn't popping at the time You know what I mean? So like it wasn't cool to be from Philly At that particular moment Because it was like years and years Since somebody actually came about the city With a record deal Like literally

I don't want to say Will Smith was the last person But that was the last big person Yeah Before us, you know Because we had a deal before Beans before any of them So it was literally like the door breaker Honestly and then Beans just like You know he just

Who did y'all end up getting signed? too. Atlantic. Oh, Atlantic. But we had Jay-Z was like the real person and we took beans up with us to our meeting with Jay-Z. I wasn't there, but it was our meeting. Hold on before we get into that, hold on. He like, hold on, nigga, I got some shit to tell. So before, when y'all got signed, before we go get to that, but when y'all got signed, like soon as y'all got signed, did y'all go right in with the Neptunes or y'all had other producers? It was three of us in the group. The nigger, the third member, our manager, we weren't really fucking with him because

once we brought beans around, this nigger started acting like nobody else could rap no more, but beans. Like, he was the only person that knew how to rap all of a sudden, you know what I mean? Like, which was just immature on his behalf because he was a manager, so he really had all of us. Yeah. So he fumbled the rock. Like, he really did.

And they ain't had beans even. You know what I mean? But like, you know, it was. like the third member went with him. He gassed him up, made him think he was the best. So the niggas said he wanted to get off the label. I mean, he wanted to get up, he thought they was going to kick us off the label and keep him. Because this nigga to convince him he was the nicest. So in turn, he thought he really was. He went to the label like, yo, like, I don't want to write with them no more. I want to write by myself. And the label was

like, cool. Like, just get your money back and, you know, you can do whatever you want to do. He's like, no, I'm saying like, I want to stay side, but like, I just don't, they like, nah, like we don't. Oh, you got to stay in the group. No, they wasn't, they didn't even like him. They thought he was the weak one. Like, no, seriously. He didn't know. He didn't know.

But his man had him thinking he was the best. Yeah. So, like, they hit us. Like, man, we was kind of like, no problem. Like, we ain't really, you know, honestly, like, we had taken because it was a group deal, but we wasn't, you know. So as soon as y'all hop there in there with a group deal, but we wasn't, you know. So as soon as y'all hopped in there with. Neptunes it was just like no we went in that I said that for a reason because the day he

came up with his money yeah they was like we got some producers in a room that we want y'all meet yeah so we getting the money back from his part of the deal and we go in the other room when they put him in that room and feralding them in there so so like that's when we met him and we was just spitting and the nigg was on the phone and we was a spitting spitting spitting spitting and the niggas like on this phone like let me call you back like I got to call you back The nigga was on his phone while your niggas was rapping. No, because like he was, like, he, that kind of niggott. Like, he was listening for sure.

Like, he was more on the phone with his eyes big. Yeah. Like, I don't know if he was listening to the person on the phone. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he was like just looking like, like, what the fuck? Like, then he finally was like, yo, I got to call you back and hung up and was like, told us about this group he had called The Clips and that he wanted us all to meet and work together and fuck with each other and just, you know, it was on. right away yeah right from there first meeting damn because I mean because a lot of those

records man y'all have with that nigga he kind of like changed the trajectory nigga of your life right oh Farrell's single-handedly the biggest influencer of my life for sure because like he he changed it he changed the whole shit and at the time you got to keep in mind like Farrell's who he is now for sure and he was definitely special then but like it was still experimentation going on musically. So he had us, he had the freedom to like experiment as far as melodically, you know?

Yeah. And that's what he did. And we was all for it. You know, we was like coming out the hood. We were like, oh yeah, let's do it. First song the nigga gave it sound like an R&B song. And we come down to Virginia

and the nigga played this song. We like, what the fuck is this? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, honestly, like, what is this? And he's like, yo, just trust me. He was a trust game with Farrell And that's what we learned very early It was like, I'm not fucking with this song

He's like, trust me. Just do it. Bro, I was in the studio with that nigga one time You know, with some mutual people Whatever the case might be. Just being a fly on a wall And that was one of the craziest experiences I've ever had Like seeing a producer

Make beats with his mouth and all times You know, pause But you know, beat boxing and you know Loads your shit up And doing some shit. And it was a beat. And I'm looking at the homie. Like, you see that shit?

But the bee box to me, it's funny you say that because the bee box to me, I used to tell him this shit, it never sound like the beat. Like, he used to break out that beat box. Like, yo, the beat going to be like, and I'll be like, okay, that shit sounds fine. But then the beat be way crazy. I'm like, dog, this only sound like that shit. You just didn't. But, yeah, he used to do that a lot.

What's the craziest moments you ever had in studio with that nigga, bro? A P? Yeah. Bro, probably when they did the Shot A remix. That shit was crazy. And Shot A wasn't even there, but it was just like, yeah, I think that was probably the craziest because he was doing that joint and then Puff came over to the studio.

So, you know, we fresh off, like, he's talking about he trying to get him to work with Sean. And, you know, he plays the song he did with Puffs. And we like, you know, it's just like just like just watching him elevate. That shit was crazy. It's a lot of moments, dog. I can't lie. With Ferrell. Super legendary.

Yeah, like, some of them shit to sound fake, it's too many. You know what I mean? Yeah, but, I mean, you know, and circling around back to that Beanie shit, like, y'all was, like, really doing your thing in Philly, and y'all was really moving around. And it seemed like the music game was kind of open back then to where you can do your thing. And you said, you walked them, you know, walk beans right into, you know, Jay Studio. but to even be able to do that, it's just like, you know, that shit is sick as fuck. Like, tell me some of those conversations that you even had with Jay to have that kind of relationship to do that.

The thing about me and Jay was like, I could tell he looked at me from an artist standpoint. I was like this, this little nigger like a little me. Like, you know what I mean? Because our boys very similar, you know, so on record. You know, so like, but he knew, which. which I always respected and appreciated. He knew I wasn't trying to sound like him. He never accused me of trying to sound like him.

You know what I mean? Like, just people like, you sound like Jay, dog. Was that a thing, though? Yeah, for me, that was the thing. Always. Like, oh, that nicks sound like Jay. Like, you know what I mean? But, like, this is how I speak.

I rap how I speak. You know what I'm saying? Like, my cadence don't really change. So, like, for me, this is all I knew. So he knew that. So, like, he would just, he was just, dog. I'd say a bar. nigger i think the nigger wasn't even really computing it that niggit be like 30 minutes later like

yo you said baby weight six pounds and nine ounces hey like that shit you think he tried to take some of that shit or what like you know what i'm gonna take that shit i don't know what he was trying to do dog i just know that like uh it was just to be a young boy and like biggie and j being my two favorite rappers and then like opening up for Biggie, you know what I'm saying? Like being in his presence before and then like being in the studio

with Jay and them, I just felt like you can tell me I ain't fucking making I'm like, oh my God, first of all, let me lean back. You got to, you opened up for Biggie. Yeah, definitely. Please elaborate. That's crazy, bro. This was early.

Like, this had to been, what, 92, 91. Yeah. So you were around. around yeah I'm talking about ether around so yeah so our our old heads right they was get money old heads so what they would do is they would book the people that they wanted us to be around they would like have like pay for them to do shows in the city you know they was getting money yeah so like we'd get a hotel room on the same

floor as the niggas and and they don't know what's going on but it's like a lot of it just set up to like so we got a chance to rap for these people so so so so the Homies in the hood who had money, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know, selling drugs or whatever. It was our old heads directly, though. Just not like random getting money, niggas. It was like our old heads.

That's love, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give money and then book them so y'all can be around and build a relationship. Definitely to make money, too, for sure. But they knew the play was like, oh, we're going to get the young boys on. You know what I mean? The young boys were going to get on. And they booked Nodz in the one time.

That's when Nause made up that bullshit-ass story. Talking about his little brother kidnapped. This is some old sucker ass. I was hearing about that, bro. Hold on. Yeah, right. So you got kidnapped, good? Yeah, please.

They said they threw boobanick in the van, pop, close the door, all the whole little shit. So why didn't come up with that story, though, what y'all niggas owe some money or what? Nah, I think it was over a girl. Oh, my God. What girl, though? I'm a lead at a long.

I just think it was over a chick, you know? I mean, because you, damn, you had a lease in your video. Yeah, she was in the video. That's people's. I mean, how that relationship come about, though? From the Neptunes. You know, she was signed to the Neptunes too, so we, you know, we used to kick and be around. That was cold, man.

Where was you around when that ether shit dropped? Ether who, Jay Z and Knob? Yeah. I was in Atlanta. Did you still have a relationship with Jay at that time? At that time, we had, I mean, a relationship like a, like, if I saw him, it was love, you know, it was love. But, like, nah, we wasn't like that. But it was a point where

hit, you know, hip hop shout out hip hop. He can attest to this where hip hop, somebody just went to Skyway, two-way, page joints hit us like, yo,

Jay said, come up to Manhattan to the studio. Like, we'd come up there. He'd just play us this shit and we'd play him our shit like just straight like that.

She was crazy. When we was already signed the Atlantic, the nigger tried to get us off. Yeah, you tried. But they, Why you never go? Why you never went over there?

We couldn't though because once he went up there and he said it, he was like once I went, then it was like, you know, he tried to, you know, he tried to like, if you don't know what to do with him, like I'll take him. It's like, nope, no, we know what to do with them because we sat for like a year. Like, that's how people came out before us. So it looked like we didn't come out first. We sat for a year and a half really, like before we even put our music out. But you got so many like super crazy stories in that time.

You've been in every like little time frame even with like AI was going crazy. Yeah. You ever even have run-ins with my boy? Of course. Bubba Chuck, that's my dog. The funny thing about AI used to be like it depends on who you get, how you meet people. And I met them through a girl. So like it was love the first time I saw, you know, she's like, they rap, you know, this not a,

But like every time after that I had to reintroduce myself to this nigga for like a year That man That he was tearing his city He was but like I got introduced to him the wrong way Like niggas used to feel some type of way

With me when it came to the chicks I don't know It's always that way They was just sensitive So like I kept introducing myself I'm like you know what I ain't speaking to this nigga no more Like fucking

Yeah Like I ain't gonna keep introducing myself I know Like we got the shit on lock at the time running the radio all day long. There's no way he don't know. And he always like, oh, yeah, you know, after I reintroduce myself.

Then the last time I was at a bar and I ain't say shit to him. He was like four stools down, like right there. And he came over to me. He's like, I know you think I don't fuck with y'all, don't you? And like, but I mean, super cool from that point forward. Like super cool. Yeah, like, nigga, why would you get at me like that? I'm like, yeah, I do.

He's like, some people, you fuck with their music. Some people We fuck with them And they music He's like, I fuck with you I do I really fuck with you And then we was just cool

From there Yeah Yeah y'all niggas too man I wanted to see I wanted to know Where the hell Was y'all at

In those rooms Like when Cassidy Was going Cooking shit You know what I'm saying Especially when he cooked freeway Like where was you at Man

I don't know where we was at That day But that was the time Spitting But what I will say About Cassidy And you know Everybody

The thing I hate About this industry shit is everybody grow into who they are and they act like they don't want to remember shit that happened like that make you less of. I don't like that. But Cassie, he was on the couch. He wasn't rapping when we was rapping. He was like our young boy, you know, that used to be on the couch. We used to go pick him up from school. You know what I'm saying? Like shit like that. Like he was the young boy. Like we was running a factory in Philly, bro. 56 and in Woodland, Black Dana House. That was like everybody who you know

from Philly and who you don't know from Philly wrapped in that house before, bro. And that's where we lived at. Yeah. So, I mean, he don't like, you know, he don't be like, oh,

Bubonic and this and that and the other. Like, he don't really kind of put the stamp on it. You know what? Yeah. He well, you asked him.

Yeah. What? Oh, yeah. And I wanted to ask you when that boy, Gilly, when he was going crazy on Wayne back then. Like, that's all I fucking remember from that thing.

No, no, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. like, Gilly, don't, don't, don't get it. But I don't remember no songs, I just remember you going to clam on Wayne, like, and

he was just relentless with that shit. I mean, but Gilly, another one, like, it was like, I ain't going to go down the list because, you know, Philly niggas takes shit personal. But it was, it was some straight killers on the spit and tip and gillie was one of them, bro. Like, you know what I mean? Like, so like, like, out of all the folks, it's a lot of us. But like, he was definitely one of them, bro. But like easy.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, easy. I had a ball head back in the day, too. So, like, when I was rapping, so, like, people always just, like, save me and Gilly look alike and all this kind of other nuts shit. Why the fuck you had a ballhead that young, Joe? Because, because, but if you look at the album coming, everything, I had to straight ball. But I had alopecia.

Oh. I was like, you know, I seen a lot of niggas die in front of me, a lot of my homies. Yeah. So, like, back in the day. Hey, I was stressed. I ain't know what to do with that stress. You know, I'm a young boy. I'm just going through the motions.

And I got alopecia in the back of my head like four spots. So that shit, if you know about that, that shit, like get bald, like, beyond bald. Like, it changed the color of his skin. So you're thinning out, baby. Yeah. Just cut it. So I cut it. I just cut that thing off.

It was like, you know, I was on my pox shit. Fuck it. Man, I'm going to give you a story, man. I was in Philly, man. I'm like, that's when I knew him. Like, these Philly motherfuckers is crazy. I'm in Philly. We had to do like a little club or whatever the case may be.

And, you know, the promoter, I don't think the promoter promoted right or whatever. You know, we went to the club, boom. We go to the club and there wasn't nobody in that motherfucker. We pull up tour bus booming. We go in that muffled. They cook for us. Ain't nobody in there. But they was like, you know what?

Ain't nobody in here. But we just want to kick it with y'all on a personal level. We want to chill. This is dudes and girls. This is a gay girl and some dudes. They like, we just gonna chill. We like, all right. But look, the homie, like, we're out of here, right?

I'm like, well, fuck it, we go. Like, but I knew it kind of wasn't the right thing because they spent all their money. They booked a little haul, and I know they out of bread. So they, like, they chunked it up. They just wanted to kick it with us and we didn't. We shook, boom, but we're shaking. We go to another club that's popping, like up the street

or whatever the case may be. We're popping away. I'm, I'm thinking I'm a tour manager or whatever the case. Like, you know, I got to go get the car because my artist's coming back out the club. So I go, you know, and for real, I just gave me this gold backpack. It looked like that Louis backpack. It was gold. Yeah, he just gave us that backpack, right?

And the boy gave it to me. So I'm holding on my motherfuck with my dear life. Yeah, so I got all the shit. And I'm in the club with that motherfucker. Right. So I come out, boom, I come out. And I see them niggas from the other club. you wearing that book back.

I remember that. I come out. I'm like, oh, what's the deal? Y'all for the coming to club, too? And they looked at me like with this look. And I looked at them and I said, they coming back for that. Yeah, they got ran.

They needed something back on me. I ran. They grabbed that backpack. They was fucking me up, man. I mean, in Philly. What? Not on my head. I'm blue.

I'm leading right. I run. They take the backpack. I'm knocking on the back door, the club door. Like, bro, I'm hurt out here, bro. Like, no, I don't fuck with that. Man, I'm like, niggas is crazy in Philly, bro. As soon as you said, though, the funny shit, my mind.

As soon as you said they came on the bus and was like, you know what I mean, like they try and chill. No, that's what they're not. That's what they not. They need their money back. We got out. We're getting it back right here. They tried to do us like that in Baltimore. Yeah.

Niggas got here with the fake black rob. What? Yeah, the fake black rob, rest of peace. I mean, no, the fake G-Dep, sorry. It was the fake G-Dep. And they introduced the promoters like, yeah, this G-Dept. We look, we like, oh, what's up? Like, you know, I ain't know what was going on, but we knew it wasn't G-D-D-F.

We was like, oh, what's up? You're like, yeah. Niggins went out to perform. All you hear, do do do, do, roo, boo, bo do, do. Security, like, stay in. We got paid already. Longstreet show, we go to a hotel. You know, they got jammed by the fake G-Dep.

Yeah. Jammed the whole shit. Niggas try to take us back to the train station in the morning. But it was a girl staying in the room that I was fleeing all night. She stayed in another person room that was with us. Yeah. And then took us, she drove us to the train station in the morning. And I was like, why she's sticking around?

Like, you know, she was just thirsty. She hit me later. she was like, yo, they was going to come back and rob y'all. That's why. And I was treating their like shit the whole time. And she saved us from a bad situation. And she saved your ass. Yeah, yeah, she did.

That she was going on a lot back then in the hip-hop, man. Yeah, that was the movie. Taking shit, doing that shit. Did you spend a lot of your money on jury? Yeah, because I was fucking with Jacob. You know what I mean? Oh, you had to. You had to.

Yeah, that was the game at the moment. You know, like, yeah, I was. I lived and I learned now I'm in business with jewelers you know what I'm saying now you know everything I've fucked money off on I made sure to incorporate it in this new life my second go you feel me

ever since that day in Philly I'm like nah that's they got me fucked up but I'm like that Philly cheese steak is crazy yeah it's crazy damn I'm damn they got you dog they got me dog you're saying Be more careful man meke even called in he calling your boy like hey you good

I'm like, man, hell no, it ain't good. I ain't coming back to this motherfucking. I bet you that's how niggas feel like that in L.A., man, because shit, L.A. crazy is a motherfucker. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've been here as shit. I know it's crazy, but I've been like 15 years now. And it's wild. I've seen it all.

I've seen a lot. Yeah, like, it's crazy. It ain't no joke. What's your top five Philly cheese play spots? Top five? Top five. Jims, gems, gems, gems, and gems. I hear everybody say that.

That's crazy. That's what I fuck with. Hop out, get it and get out of there. Yeah, just get it. I mean, South Street ain't that bad. You know, y'all might have been on South Street. Nah, I've been on South Street. South Street ain't that bad.

Ishgibibbles used to be good. I went back recently and the new management of something. They still got the name, but the shit. Oh, it ain't hitting the same. So it ain't gems then. No, gems is the same. I said Ishgibibibbles. That's like across the street.

That's another spot. They got the Gremlin, like the lemonade with the grape. That shit, five. But they under new management. But it was between those two spots. But Jim's the same. Authentic. I mean, in Philly, they do.

Everybody be having the beers, and it's a lot of Muslims going crack. You ever give me? I'm Muslim, though. You Muslim? Yeah, I'm born Muslim. What? My birth name is Al-Basir, Hakeem Salahuddin. Holly.

That's my name. Wow. So that's how you and Shakir like this. Yo, you might remember me and Shakira was, oh, you're like, now, then when we was arguing on the bus about the rumble on the tour. I don't know, but I heard about that. That shit was funny. My man was hot with me, though.

He ain't speak to me for like a week on tour. You know, that's a long guy's time. That's a long time. My boy didn't do that shit, too. He stoned me for like a week. Man, that's crazy. Shout out of Shakir. But shit, how is your relationship now with Beans, man, after, you know, all the shit?

Beans went over the crib, like. A few times up like this year. In L.A.? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn, that's cold. Like, you know, he went on a podcast, Oskino, and he had told the story kind of, like, it wasn't all the way correct the way he told it.

But he went on Breakfast Club, though. I don't know if I should be mentioning I was a joint on here. No, you can mention whatever, because I need to hear that story anyway. He went on Breakfast Club and kind of like just, you know, he didn't realize I wasn't on that trip because I wasn't on that trip.

You know what I mean in that particular time? So what did he initially say, though? He said that, you know, I asked him to go up there, which I did. And the only reason it was wrong for him to actually go up there is because I didn't. Because I had like had something else planned that I had to do that day. I know that sound crazy. It's like, go meet Jay-Z or like go with your girl to the spirit of Philadelphia for our graduation. Like, so it was like I chose that like an idiot.

But I chose that. So beans, it was wrong. He went. I didn't go. So, you know, they rap. I heard it was some niggas from New York up there and they was rapping. I ain't here nobody got dusted. But, you know, the way the story sounded was like they got, the Phillies most wanted got dusted and got sent back home. And I'm like, I don't like, none of that. None of that don't sound right. Why would they put y'all in that? Why were they just trying to like get at y'all like that? No, I think the niggas might have been like, you know, I think it might have been some, some like spitting going on. But one thing I will say no matter what, I know my dogs can rap.

You know, that I wasn't the only one that could rap in the group. Like, they could rap. So, like, the dusty part, I don't know about that. But, like, it might have been indifferent. You know, niggas might have just been like, you know, I don't know who did what. But beans start rapping. That's what really shifted everything because Jay never heard beans. That was the first time he heard him.

So he started rapping. And beans don't really have no manager and nobody. He really a free agent up there. He just out there. He just out there. But, you know, my manager saw the play, saw how interested Jay was and everybody and was like, no, like this one, you can get him. Like, you know, so that's how that went. I don't know why I went like that, but the time I went, I went after that.

And it was just me and Beans. Yeah. The spit for Jay. And I was rapping nonstop. I was the last one rapping. And that's just a fact. You got to be super blessed for that. You brought Beanie Siegel to Jay-Z.

That is crazy, bro. Like, people really need to hear. them stories like bruh like that's my dog though like even since he's been over the crib like we was just kind of reflecting you can relate to this like sometimes you can be like comrades with motherfuckers in the industry and not really chop it up we spend a spend a lot of time have some real history with the people but not really chop it up about life and the type niggas at least at that time it was like that it was very surface and very much about music and you know who you pop in and you know this that that kind of talk

And then like we getting to know each other for real, for real later in life, you know. So like it's a real, it's a better respect there. Because you've been through shit, you know, so we're going through stuff. And it's just like life will hit you different ways. Got kids now. Everything different. Yeah, you know, we're looking at it, you know, at the biggest perspective of things. Like it's like, it's really crazy.

Like I really do be having those sit downs with my homies like, you know, and then be chopping it down. Like, we should. And a lot of those moments, I should have been taking it all in. You know, and a lot of these moments in the industry, I wasn't taking it. You don't get to take them in, though. Man. It sounds good. It was moving too fast.

I was about to say it sounds good. Like, you should take it in. The only time you get to take it in is if you get a second act. Yeah. If you get a second act, then you get to taking in. But, like, most people, when you're in that moment, it's fast, bro. And, like, you ain't none of this. Everything is new.

Like, you ain't never been in this situation. I ain't, it's the first time I ever been in the studio with, Naomi Campbell and Tyra Banks. Like, I don't know what I'm supposed to be acting. Like, I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, but they're in there, chilling. Like, you know what the fuck Naomi Campbell doing in the session, bro?

We was in a Fuji session because I'm like, funny as shit. I'm on a prize album. The whole group is on three songs, Ghetto Superstar. This before we even had a record deal, the nigga paid for us to like come up New York and get on this shit because he thought we was nice. And Naomi Camel was in there with Cleth. straight up. I was just like and they was talking about the cannabis beef

and she was like, I know shit about him. He better shut his mouth. I'm talking about Elle. It was like, yeah, it was some crazy stories. And then Farrell was helping Tyra Banks with a, these like some highlights. She was helping he was helping her with some music at one

point and she had a Victoria Secret photo shoot in Sony studio up New York and a recording session. And Benny Beny Boone was in there. facts. If I'm lying, I'm flying. He was in the room going there.

All she got on, all she got on in Victoria's Secret Laundrae. And it's like, I ain't even know what to do because it wasn't a lot of people in there. I felt like if I even breathed, they was going to kick you the fuck out. Yeah. I'm just sitting there like,

like, I ain't move. I stayed still. I was just sitting there, dog. That shit was crazy. I was like, wait. Man, we go back to the hood after this. We back in Philly. You know, on the freeway,

We like, thought, we just in Victoria photo shoot. Damn, bro. The Detroit Secret photo shoot with Tyra Banks, though. Niggas's like, no, no way. But we always took niggas with us. So, you know, we had verification. Like, am I lying? Yeah, I was there.

We was there too? Yeah. But, you know, having all these memories and going through all of this stuff, like, what ultimately, you know, what was the change in the group to where y'all was like, you know what? We got to break this shit up. Well, it was really bad man. We had bad management, bad business. It wasn't really the music, bro.

Our music, we was number three in the country. Like, you know what I mean? Our shit was doing it. The music wasn't it. It had nothing to do. It's the classic case of like business. Yeah. Going wrong.

Like our career is strictly a cautionary self of bad business. You know? Other than that, I think they did a thing on, I want to say, Vice or something like that. Did you see that one, that article? article. No, I didn't see that one, but, you know, just looking at it, I'm like... But they broke it down really crystal clear, like, what the issue really was. And, yeah, bro, it was just business. And then at a certain point, you get jaded. You know, like,

the business jaded me. You know, it's like so much fuck shit happening. I'm just like, you know what I fuck this shit. So much. Did that shit take a toll on you? It didn't take a toll on me only for the set reason that, like, I watch niggas create who they better self within the... music industry structure, right? So if something with the music don't go right, everything that's dope about them is relying

on that. So they're going to suffer bad. I didn't feel that because honestly, like, I got all the chicks I wanted before this rap shit. I was me before this shit. Far as, like, I was just the same confident fly niggas that I felt that I feel like

I am still to this very second. You know what I mean? So, like, it never was like, oh, this shit ain't working. I'm, you know I could go back to the hood and be normal and still be killing it on that level. Yeah. Like, why no shame really, you know, so like it didn't take that. Because I think the embarrassment would have been with would have took the toll on me. It's like what me going through right now, and as far as like his struggles with his record deal and his record label and all the whole little shit for that shit to still be happening is just beyond me.

That shit is just so disrespectful. And you still come from that era too. And it's just like, bro, we still on this same shit. Still on it. That shit is crazy. But when Farrell start fucking with the clips. He fucked with them first for the record. Oh, he fucked with them first because I was going to say, like, did he use the same

formula he used on y'all? Listen, I'm glad you said that because I've been wanting to say this on the platform where it can be seen and mattered. That whole idea that Ferrell did anything strange with us and, shitting on us for the clip. The reality of the cases, when he met us, they was already signed. They had just got dropped from their label. And he started working our project.

So look at it from their point of view. They might be looking at it like, dog, we just got off our label and you fucking with these two dudes just like us and trying to make them hit, giving them hit records, like big songs that's going to be on the radio and all that shit. You know what I'm saying? So we, he gave us our. shot, we fumbled it. You know what I mean? With bad management and shit like that. And that's just what it is. Like, ain't nobody at fault but us. You know what I'm saying? Although we was young,

I'm still manning up now to take the credit for the, like, you can't even blame it on the management, really, because we, we picked those motherfuckers. We could have been like, you know. How many people wasn't there managing y'all? Bro, so the chick angel that I told you, the tomboy, it was her. and another dude from Philly who used to manage a Stevie G. So hold on, the tomboy girl from Philly that introduced y'all to my boyfriend,

bad boy, end up managing y'all. Yeah, I mean, what did you think the price of that is? Like, yeah, she got us,

yeah, she got us in the label. She's like, I need to be in the door, too. So our manager at the time, which was his name was Stevie G, like, he never managed nobody before.

We was the first group he ever managed, ever put in the studio, any of that stuff. So like they linked up. They, you know, but nobody knew what they was doing. So I can't blame them all the way. Then I can't blame. We had two other managers and all kind of fuckery just ensued, you know.

So like, I'm old enough and wise enough at this point now. It's like that shit was on us. We, you know, we should have, we should have been more stern about it. And even with the rap shit, like my partner, he wound up not even doing the rap shit no more. Really, these niggas, Jay-Z, if I'm, this is a fact. Jay Z, Dr. Dre, all these motherfuckers used to try to get me to go solo. Yeah. All the time.

Like, for real. Ferrell would tell me Jay was like, oh, tell the young boy if he'd go solo, I make him a star right now. Like, this one we wait signed. This one we got music out already. You know what I mean? And my loyalties is just never even crossed my mind. You know what I mean? It's like, nah.

So you're hearing this through the grapevine and they just whispered. Straight up. Straight up. Hey, go solo. Not in front of it. Him. Oh, yeah. But, like, yeah, like, private conversation, like, yo, this nigga said if you go solo

right now, this nigga said if you go solo right, you know. But to me, just the pedigree, the cut, it never, it really never crossed my mind, so I didn't feel no kind of way about it. But now, looking at it in retrospect. Bitch, that shit is a way to win solo on your motherfucking ass. And it's still the same. And not. It's a different rub.

You wish you were to win solo? I do, man. Damn. The only reason I say that is because he wound up tapping out. Yeah. He didn't really love it as much as you did. No, he didn't. And that's just true.

Like, you know, that's my best friend. We grew up together. We brothers. If it wasn't for me pushing that shit on him, he wouldn't. He wanted to be in the streets. You know what I'm saying? Like, he wouldn't have gave a fuck about that music shit. But, like, my point in view was always, like, everybody talked that street shit.

Like, it's easy to sell this coke. It's easy to do all this shit, sell itself. Like, but, like, to really put yourself out there. that kind of way and really dedicate yourself, that's, that's not that easy. So, like, it wasn't a matter, like, tough or not tough. It's like, nigga, let's get some real bread, bro. Like, fuck this nickel and diamond looking over our back bullshit. Like, let's really get it popping. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's get some millions. Yeah, when was, when was your, like, time, you know, the day you was like, you know where fuck that I'm going? I am really

fin to go solo at this point. It wasn't no day. The nigga quit. So he quit and you just had no choice. Oh, I thought you actually really left. Nah, bro. We never, it wasn't that kind of like we was brothers first. You feel me? Yeah. We got fucked up in Atlanta. You know, shit was tight. She was beyond tight. We was like done, broke. You know what I mean? T tricked it all off in Magic City. And I don't regret none of it. But, you know what I mean? It was a rat. So, so, you know, he went back to Philly. Unexpectedly. You know what I'm saying? Like, I know he was going back to Philly. Like, you know, that's cool for him. Everything worked out how I was supposed to.

Did you reach you back out? Like, hey, look, I'm trying to go solo. No, but the deal wasn't on the table? Oh, no, I definitely didn't try to double back. At this point, it was like, we kind of like, we kind of, not damaged, but just, you know, played the two cool. Niggas like, man, I ain't sweating these niggas. Like, you know what I'm saying? So it wasn't no action at that point. Niggas rather watch you drown at that point. Damn. You know what I mean? Like, oh, you remember all like, oh, yeah. Okay. Good luck out there. Like more like that.

This industry is cutthroat. Yeah, but cool. Listen, man, I'm at a phase in life with like, all right, I love it. I love all of it. Okay. Be like that. Let's see how it ended up. Was being a solo artist like harder for you than being in a group?

In my mind, I was always a solo artist. That's how I wrote my raps and isolated. You know what I'm saying? Like I never, it never was hard. I love collaboration. but it never was hard to be a solo artist, you know what I mean? It just wasn't. Because I've seen you performing with Dom, songs with Dom, different songs with other artists,

big artists at the time, like, damn, this nigga really going solo. And then that one thing I came across of when you came out with Beans, like, how was that performance when you came out with State Property? That was hard. And that was like maybe two years ago. And it was hard. It was dope because it was like right. before Corona.

Like Corona was in the building, but we ain't know yet that show. Yeah. That was that Christmas. But he was supposed to be there too. But like, understandably, somebody that we both knew

had got killed a couple days before that. So, you know, maybe he didn't feel like coming out. But, like, I felt like we all knew the nigga that. So he was in the building and didn't come out with you. No, he definitely wasn't in the building. Oh, okay. But I'm just saying he knew up that show, too.

And it was basically all. the Philly artists is coming out on state props set and doing like a little something real quick. That shit felt good because, you know, I had to do a stick the mic out there. And they were singing it. Yeah. And that's like a hundred years ago. And they still run that on the radio? Yes, sir. To this day. Yes, sir.

Yeah. They still run that. They got to though because it was it was the one at one, the three at three, the five at five, the ten at ten. Every countdown for the entire year. That shit was at the top, bro. Every day. every day, every slot, it was just there you know. Wendy Williams I remember one time her, her own radio, like that she used to be on talk radio in Philly

she was like, man, I'm tired of this shit. I don't even I'm not even introducing it as number one. I'm just let it play. It was like that, bro. It was like that. Danielle, you know, all of that shit and your life started kind of like taking the turn and you kind of

like, you know, going another way. Yeah, you definitely pivoted another way. I want to know, like, how did that Rich Hill relationship come about? Oh, okay. So I was in Atlanta, and a dude that I knew from Philly was in the mall. And as soon as I was walking in, they was, like, walking in, too. But I was like a little ahead, a little behind. And I looked and I saw him.

I'm like, yo, like, oh, shit. You're like, yo, I'm working with Younging. Like, I'm like, I ain't know who Youngen was, though, because I tell him he looks. He looked like, he was like in the Terror Squad or something. Like he looked like a little Spanish kid, like low black cut, big-ass chain on. You know what I mean? He looked like terror squad or something. Like, I ain't know who he was.

And I was like, all right, like, you know, this music, you want to help with some music shit? Yeah, let's get it, you know. And then that's how we met. And then he was a fan that, you know, he kind of put him on all the Philly artists and he got good taste, rich. So he knew he loved beans and he loved us. You know what I'm saying? Before he ain't know none of that connection, nothing. It's just like how he feel.

And we just got tight. You know what I'm saying? I knew he really wanted it like music. And I knew he felt like people was going to always try to discredit him because of the situation. And that's where we connected at on a friendship level because although people look at him like, hi, y'all are two friends. But we both dealt with people trying to make it seem like we're not able to do something for a reason that don't make a lot of sense. But you're rich as a motherfucker and people like, nah. Yeah, they like, I ain't buying it.

You know what I'm saying? And for us, it was just like, they just wanted to write us all just because they just wanted to, like, because we wasn't like them. You know what I'm saying? Like, they was just like, y'all ain't like us, but like, I'm not like, y'all. Y'all y'all niggas is nuts.

Because I'm saying. And from a point, like, how do fuck Bynne get over there with Richie and Richie over here rapping? That's the hell no. Yeah, but no, but I believe in it to this day. Like, I believed in it then. You know what I'm saying? because I know Bull.

Like, I really know him at the core. You know what I mean? He really solid and he really got talent. You know what I'm saying? How did Tommy Hill figure, they'd take that all in at the time? Well, you got to think, like, that's his son. You know what I'm saying? And when you got kids, you got a son.

Like, you know what I mean? It's like, at a certain point, you just want your kids to be happy. You know what I'm saying? And then you never know what the person's aspirations used to be, back in the day, like, before they become who they become. Like, he used to want to make music. He used to want to be in a rock group. You know what I mean?

Yeah. So on that level, he understood, and Rich is a crooner. You know, he ain't necessarily a rapper. Like, he's just a croon. He's like Bob Dylan. That's who Rich is to me. Do he still make music? Yeah, he still make music.

And something I can attest to when it come to him, something I've seen with my own two eyes. Little Pete, we already know that because he got records with Pete and all that. But, like, Pete, X-X, all those dudes, bro. All of them, be hitting them up all the time, telling them how much they, uh, uh, juice world, all them, how much he influenced they sound. What?

Because he did, bro. He was on that suicidal sad boy shit, like when nobody else was doing it, bro. Like, that emo shit. Yeah, he was on that. He just was. And from that perspective, pills, drugs, dark, he was on that. Yeah. So, like, he was ahead of.

there's time for that. But the real ones, no, because I've seen him acknowledge it. You know what I'm saying? How's he doing right now? He good, working on music. And he finally getting this lane where, you know, he can just run. That's my brother for life, dog. Like, for real, for real. That's my real brother. And a lot of people, though, know you have a relationship with schoolboy Q. And you've seen before it was really schoolboy Q that he is now. Like, how do you feel seeing it? How you feel seeing my boy like flourish like it's like like it's so funny it's so crazy right?

It's so funny because like you know Q like knowing Q just his position at one point was like very much like man fuck dog I don't know this shit I don't know what I'm do you know da da da da da da like that nigga used to be wanting like a motherfucker like dog stop poutin like you got just like you got like you got it like make it happy you know I'm saying like and so watch this nigger just like take off like that and I remember it he and he ain't had no jack he ain't had no phone he'd be FaceTime me off a computer in Seattle yeah like up there selling whatever he had to sell to just have a little something for the baby you know I'm saying like watching you do that and sending them

music to when he was in TD dark as wear studio that shit looked crazy at the time it was like in the carcin yeah yeah yeah yeah He'd be FaceTime him from that shit. And just to see and watch how that shit started unfolding until like meeting them in New York when he still was like, he was like back, he was like a hype man for, for Dot at the time. But like I go show up and you like,

yo, the shit about to go. My nigga sold 5000 this first week. We live. Talk about- I remember that. And I'm like, thinking to my son, I'm like, wait, what? So five.

I was like, I'm like, how's that? How's that good? You know, because like, our album sold 25, 30,000 the first week, and it was a horrible first week for us. Yeah. So I couldn't understand. But she was on a major, though. I know, but see, this is stuff I don't understand at the moment when he's saying it.

You know what I'm saying? And then watch him and then understand like, no, this is independent. And then watch the, like, I was like, oh, wow, this is, that shit was amazing. Happy, I smile every time I think about Q being up. Like, you know what I mean? Because it's just funny. And he wanted my best. biggest collectors of my art.

Yes, sir. Let's talk about it. A real one. I went in this damn house and I said. A real one, dog. I'm like, you feel me? Like, bro. I'm talking about paying cash, bro, too.

No, for real, like, he knows, like, what I respect about it is like, he know getting damn well that he don't have to do that. You feel me? I mean, but look what you have created. All right. touched on a rap shit. Yeah. You pivot.

This is what I'm going into the pivot. I had to bring up Q because he is one of the biggest artist collector of your shit. Yeah. I've seen ever. Yeah. But like you pivot from a rapper to what is a contemporary artist? You're a contemporary, like not like no bullshit. Like my boy is real life legend out here.

Like your art is in some real life galleries and people. homes. Nice collections. Yeah. Some nice collections. Like, I have a piece of art. Like, people don't even know that. It's crazy, too.

I love when I see it when it peeked through that time. It's always there. It's always going to be, it's always going to stay there. Yeah, like, I'm like, and it's worth bread. Let's get it after my boy is like, what, the five, six digit mark, right? Yeah, we get, we up there. Yeah, like. We're not playing.

No, we're not playing. Like, I mean, listen, man, like, you got to feed the beast. Man, how the fuck did you change your life into that? Like, you know what? Boom, I'm an artist. And then it's just like... All right. You want to hear the cool shit?

So this is the cool shit. The cool shit was... Rita. I met her through another friend of mine's name, Emily Rose, introduced us to Rita. So my boy Rich, naturally, you know, I'm like, yo, Rita. Orr, like, Rich is at this. this point he's just like beast mode like oh yeah like you know so they start kicking it so you know she going on this euro run like all these shows over europe spain all kind of places right so rich

like fuck it we should just go like once get to travel like fuck it let's just go like all right bet we go so emily worked at adidas so i had all these adidas she sent me all these um Stan smiths like bunch of them same color i'm like the fuck like you know what i'm gonna do these on So I took crink and I just took a crink ball and just like every city I knew he was going to, Berlin, whatever. I just started writing all kind of crazy shit on them. And, you know, I start wearing them overseas. Everybody was geek in the airports or wherever we is that. Rita was seeing it.

So, long story short, Rita got a burking bag, black one. She was like, listen, I need you to blast that motherfucking send it to me. Because we was in London. We was like posting in London for a minute, a couple months. She was like, I'm in, she was in somewhere else, maybe Berlin is the way she like, just send it to me. Like, I need that. So I'm at her crib, blast in the bag, you know, just for free on the humbug. I ain't really pivot to art.

Like, that was more therapeutic for me just to have something to do while I'm trying to figure out what I'm really going to do. You know what I'm, I was thinking about being a DJ at one point, my nigger, like, I ain't going to, I ain't going to hold you. Like, I was on some shit. Like, I got, like, I'm not a bump. I'm not going to be a bump. Like, we got to figure this shit. it out like you know what I'm saying like so so I'm like um you know I'm like painting this shit just because I know how since a kid so I'm painting paint her bag up she like with

your email she gave me her email I mean I gave her my email she posted on her page like yo if you want your bag painted like this is God like that this changed my life that changed my life I went back to my email she was like inquiry so she got the so she you painted her purse a burkin boom she gets spotted out of that and take the flicks in it everybody want to see where it's at everybody need that yeah they needed that by the way i saw no one's burking before that painted never never all them came after that so like that was my that's 2012 that's like my claim the same like that i never even claimed you know what i'm saying but like that's really what happened and she had anybody can attest to it

and like it's stamped because you can just look it up you know her bag and it come up so it's like I was like, damn, like, all these people asking how much for the back. I don't even know because I didn't really do that for money. Like, I was just like, fucking $3,000. Needed. Hala. But I thought people was going to be like, damn, fuck out of here.

Like, you know what I mean? But it's serious. It's just something about it. It's like. They was like, where I send them money. I know one day I told you, I can look at this shit. I was like, I feel like I can do this shit. Yeah.

And you said, no, you can't. Yeah. But the trick is. to make people feel like they can do it. Yeah, it just looks so... It should make people feel like they can do it. That shit is speaking to me, man. And all the art and Q House, like, that shit is like,

it speak to you. Like, every section is like, it's something. And I can feel it. It means something to me, too. It's crazy. It's still bars, though, on some real shit. Like, I took it to the canvas, but it's still a rap.

And they get, like, the title, the meaning, why it exists with what's behind it. It's still bars. You know what I'm saying? I'm just bar. with the art now, you know what I'm saying? But like, for real, like, it has an emotion, it has a feeling, and it's captured, and people see it and be like, like, I just had some people come over the day before I came

here, like, somebody won a commission in the original, and they just like, man, it's just talk to me, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I don't know these people, so I know it must be doing something because I don't know these folks. Yeah. And they come in with 50, 60, you know what I'm saying? At a time, like, I don't know these people. Like, so it must be to them because I ain't giving nobody 60.

something talking I mean but besides Q like who's the biggest person you know if that got art like in the hip hop are just period we can go hip hop too Michael Jordan got one

two for his twin daughters it's a Lola Button I killed it with the ball like who else got one George Perez a lot of people might not know him

but that's a billion That's a billionaire. He got the Perez Art Museum in Miami. He's a collector. A lot of billionaires, dog. I ain't going on a lot. Like, I don't know. Like, no, for real.

Like, they don't do much. Like, you know, they're not on Instagram. That's the thing. It's like two sides to this game. It's like an Instagram artist and then it's like a contemporary artist. And I'm on Instagram, but I definitely would never call myself an Instagram. You're definitely a really. real contemporary artists.

Yeah. Like people hit me on the, on the email, not on my DMs. You know what I mean? People be looking like, you know what? I mean, you, they mean, you talking about NFTs and shit. And I'm like, nah, nigger, I got this pain right here. This is my first piece of art right here. Like, this shit worth bread.

I don't know NFTs either. I ain't did none. Yeah. What do you feel about that shit, though? That shit we got. I feel like it's too much unknown. And yeah, you know what hustle remind me up? I don't know how y'all hear.

was, but it was niggins in my hood who would literally tell all the young boys, hustle up, young boy, I mean, don't spend all your money, stack that shit up, and hustle, hustle, and wait for him to stack it all the way up and then rob them. Damn. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was niggas on my block like that. You know what I mean? So to me, that's what this feel like.

I could be wrong, you know what I'm saying? But that's what it feel like. It feels like revenge of the nerds. Yeah. Like, they know what's up more than we do, but they need it. They don't need us, but they making us feel like they do. So now they're pulling all our intellectual property in and then they want you to build up your e-wallet and then they're going to take it Because they know how to do it. They know what to do you know what to do you know what I'm saying like I'm good

I don't trust that shit I could be wrong man you were speaking on jewelers You know what I'm saying and having a relationship and this is right here one of the biggest relationships I feel like it's just super crazy you got a relationship with What's his name Jason the jeweler you did a collab with him? You did a collab with him did the Rolex with him right I did the roly I did this I did this yeah and if you don't know who jason he's behind pieces for Michael Jackson the NBA NFL Super Bowl rings and my boy got collabs with him like he a real one jason's a real one that's my dog and jay like one of the first people once I transitioned to the art that like lined up to do some real business with me like for real for real

So like, I used to waste money on jewelry now. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's part of my business. So like, I think that's cool too. Like when you think about it, you're like, man, nigga really changes life. I used to be wasting money. Now I'm making money from the shit.

I was wasting money from. You know what I mean? Like, I'm proud of that shit. Like, because that, you know, you know how we go. Yeah. Niggas just blow that money. You know what I mean? I ain't blowing that money no more.

It might look like it, but trust me, I'm not. I got my boy in here. Used to be a rapper. pivot transition into a contemporary artist. Then I see you. I'm like, okay, my boy, you know, he's living life. He's in love. I'm on my, what's y'all's shit called?

Tether. I'm Trevor. Oh, you funny. Yeah, I learned from the best. Yeah. I know motherfuckers be hit me up, even like, you know, homies that's real gangster or whatever. Like, like, but they'd be like,

I love that little shit you got all going on. You make that shit look tight, bro. For real. But no, it's real shit. Like, you know, we both artists. So we met, like, at an art museum. It was real, it was organic. And, like, two people, her best friend and her best friend's boyfriend, who was a good friend of mine.

They passed away. Car accident together. And I didn't know her before that. And I didn't know her even after that immediately. But I met her at a art show. We was both showing that museum. in Cleveland. And she was like, your voice, you sound like somebody, like my homie that passed away.

I'm like, who? And it was Sue. And I was like, oh, shit. And we just, you know. Click. We clicked from there and start talking. We been rocking ever since, though, literally, since that trip. Man, I love to see it, man.

Yeah, it's just been like that. Yeah, before we get out of here, man, I need everybody to know, man. What's your top five all time? My shit gonna sound boring because it's just like the same You know Like top five

I want to hear No particular order Because I ain't gonna do that But Biggie Jay Z Andre 3,000 Um That's what this

We'd be having beef around this Andre 3000 shit No I fuck with Andre 3,000 I mean To be quite honest with you Nause is a rapper You know I might have my own

personal issues with his character, but as a rapper, he, he, he, he, he right there. What, what personal issue would you have? The nigga said his brother kidnappeders. Like, that's faith. The fuck you're talking about. That shit ain't real. Like, I don't, if a nigga can make some shit up like that, you got a character issue

with me, bro. So, some of your character is weird. So that niggins said in an interview that his brother kidnapped y'all one time. And I still got him in my top five, but it's bogus. Nick, I ain't never been kidnapped in my fucking life. And his brother, yeah, he saved his brother life. That's what really happened. All right.

All right. Save the time. Tell this story before we get out of here. All right. All right. So one more on my top five. And I just put a new person just to be fair. I don't know, dog.

I don't want to do the top five. I don't know who else. All the niggas is nice. All you niggas is nice, man. Those niggas, the ones I said. Those are the ones I really fucked with. You know what I mean? But this story, like,

like this was a show we opened up for once again. We opened up for Nas and Mace and Philly. Same play. Next to the hotel room, all the whole thing. And we ended up tinted out pathfinder. And you just start hearing all these gunshots. But we like in the parking lot trying to get out. So it's like wall to wall.

Ain't nobody moving. You just say, right? So we used to that shit. You know, so we roll down the window a little bit. So we look. So we see the niggas. Like, we know it's jungle.

Like, we know it's him. So the nigger running, we open the door. Nicka hopping, he's like, on my kids. And you know I'm not going to lie on them. On my kid's life. Nigel like, yo son, don't kill me. I stashed the burn in the icebox of the limo. Can you just take me to the train station?

I'm not as a little brother, man. Please just don't do nothing to me. And we like, yo, you good, bro. Like, we know who you are and we know where you at. Like, we literally staying on the same floor. right next door to you, right? Take and bringing me, he's like, oh, shit, thank God. Like, you know, da-da-da-da.

Get to the hotel, nods is in there. Like, oh, my God, like, thank you so much. Like, you know what I mean? Oh, I can't believe it. We stay up with the niggas all night, dog, rapping, talking. I had a relationship with the nigger. We were talking on the phone, all that shit. Like, so that's why I say that because it's, like, phony.

Then, like, you know, it's just, it's some things going on in the world right now. Like, to be fair to her, you know, she just had a loss in her real close loss and shit. Like, I don't want to really hit on that too much. But, like, it was over a girl. You know, it just changed. And it was like, it didn't make no sense to me. I'm like, why would you say that? Black thought played that shit for me.

And I was like, why would you say that? It's out of nowhere. Yeah, it's weird. It didn't make no sense. And so I had to really think about it. And I was like, oh, I know what it is. And I just leave it at that, you know. Yeah.

All right, y'all. But you and I know what's going on. That's a crazy story, man. But we out of here. It's cool having my boy Bonnick here, man. My dog for life, man. We go, man. Make sure y'all tune in.

You got anything you want them to tune into? Just check out, you know, Museum 3. Yeah. We're about to take over. Me and my girl, Christina, Martinez. We're about to kill that shit. Yeah, I mean, give them your Instagram link. Oh, my Instagram is the art of Al-Basir.

Yes, sir. All right, y'all. here.