No Jumper - The Capolow Interview: Carrying Guns at 13, Wants to Fight YK Osiris, Crazy Drug Stories & More

Episode Date: May 7, 2021

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No Jumper coolest podcast in the world. And today we have a long way to sit down with the one-only. Copolo, how are you doing, man? How you doing, man? I'm cool, man. I'm chilling, man. I'm having a good old Monday. I did eight interviews last week.

We only got three this week, so I feel like I can kind of relax. A little bit more of a laid-back state. How have you been? I've been chilling, man, working, you know, trying to stay consistent, tapes dropping, visuals coming, all type of shit. Definitely. I've seen you've been running around for the past few weeks, huh? Hell yeah, hell yeah, really, really just trying to, you know, get my name out there in different states and shit like that.

You know, I introduce myself. That's interesting because, like, I feel like you're so well known up in NorCal. For sure. Did you feel like your fan base is consistent down here? It's way more consistent down here. Like I say Seattle, L.A., you know, Oakland, of course, you know, shit like that in that order. Arizona, too, you know, Midwest, just west side. But I'm trying to get down in the South, East Coast, you know, just benched off.

Definitely. I feel you. Before we even get into more of like your whole story, do you prefer to be like on the road or do you prefer staying at home? Because it's very different mental states that you get into, I think. No cap. At first, I ain't going to lie. I wanted to be at home type of shit. Like I was complacent type of shit. Like I didn't really want to go nowhere. I was like, I was good here. But over the years, like seeing me traveling, I feel like I've been progressing more. So I feel like being on the road and really getting out there, you know, making a brand name. for yourself and shit like that like that's better for me definitely I'd rather be on the road yeah because I feel like I've said this mad times over the course of the past few weeks but it feels like there's you know there's that effect in NorCal type shit where you can you know be really

big up there and you never really have to leave that environment oh mom is I ain't gonna lots of ceiling in the bay real like you really can't get further than the bay type shit you stay there because I don't know you accessible to everybody type shit like you know everybody can can grab you can reach you like oh y'all know where he had he around the corner of that shit because oakland's small you feel me so for me to really venture off and get out of there it's like you feel me less accessible to motherfuckers but do you feel like it's the sound that sort of holds people back in that way or do you think it's more like a cultural thing or i feel like it's more of a cultural thing because motherfuckers don't get the culture because the sound there like you feel me motherfuckers even take the

sound and steal the sound and make it they own type shit you feel like if they still got the bay bounce but we know where you got it from you still got the bay dances we know you got it from It's just the culture and how they don't understand on how it came about and where it originated from and how it originated and the shit, you feel. That's interesting you say that because I feel like for a long time, maybe the sound was a little too weird for people to necessarily understand it in different locations. But then I feel like nowadays it's so common for rappers to just basically like borrow a sound from a certain city and be like, going to make a song like that, all right. Oh, God. That's natural. That's damn near.

I feel like the niggas started doing that and made it like okay to do it. Probably like I say 2014 type shit and they just start carrying away. Right. I feel you. No, yeah, but that's kind of like the question is like, is it okay for a white guy

to start a fucking burrito truck? You know? Is it okay for a Korean lady to have a soul food truck? You know, it's like... Nah, no, no, no, no. That's going overboard right there. Hey, go long.

Ain't no, no, is making no soul food on mom you might get away with the burritos i don't know if they've tried honestly no they ain't tried if they did they're gonna call a korean soul food on me something like that yeah no but you hear about those stories where it's like like i don't know like for me personally i don't know if i found out like there's one taco truck in lada i have like a close feelings towards i go there whenever i'm downtown and it's like you know mexican family appears to be running it if i found out that there was like you know some white guy pulling the strings behind the scenes Actually, I don't think I care.

Now that I think about I hardly care. Hey, I ain't gonna lie. Like, in the Bay, though, like, we coach are like a motherfucker out there, but our food ain't coached like at all. You don't feel like that? Yeah, our food ain't gonna lie. I walk into a nigga a soul food restaurant, and I ain't seen not a black worker or not, none of that in the kitchen,

none of that, you feel me, everybody, you feel me? Different race, but black. You know what I'm talking about? But they fool good as fuck, though, you feel me? But I ain't a lie. Like, in the Bay, we could be more culture. with the food. I ain't gonna lie. Like, we ain't got that. We just got straight Mexican food, straight taco trucks and shit. Right. I've been in that situation where you, uh, you're sort of

like, uh, like, you go to like a super hipster-ass, like sole food type place or some shit or like, or any kind of food and you know this is like a straight hipster-ass version of that food, but then it's still pretty good. And you're like, well, fuck it, I guess. Oh, mama's real shit. That's fact. Um, okay, so talk to me about you coming up. Or just like you being young in Oakland and everything. What was the lifestyle like out there? I ain't going to lie. It was cool because, you know, I had both my parents, you feel me?

But I ain't going to lie. Like as soon as, like, high school here, middle school too, it was, it was rough, but it wasn't as rough as high school. Because high school, I'm really damn near on my own type of shit. My big brother didn't left out the house. My sister left out of the house, you know, just me in the house. And that's like, you know, fend for my own type of shit. So high school, that's when I started losing, like,

close partners and shit to me, you feel me? Like mostly violence yeah violence a moment so you start a little close pottiness so me losing my pottiness really like like turn me to the streets type shit like because just me know I got a small man complex type shit so you feel me I ain't going for no sucker shit none of that you feel me so I lose a nigga or you feel me or we get into with somebody like I'm always going rhyme for my niggas type shit that's how I was like I was a high head saying small man complex so that's that's interesting because like I mean well you just as a young person you sort of knew like I'm a smaller dudes so I gotta learn to fight I gotta really be able to defend my shit real shit

like like I'm small you feel me like you feel me and motherflers gonna try to test me type shit so and nigger half small man complex you always hot head and always rate on go you feel me always trying to go type shit so that's how I was you feel me so it was like you feel me me me feel me me me my parents couldn't tell me couldn't tell me no from wrong they didn't know what the fuck was really going on they're older like from the old generation so they don't know how I'm how I'm really feeling going to school I'm wearing bummy clothes but my parents ain't got enough money to give me some clothes that I could really wear and sport, you feel me? So I really have to do everything on my own type shit. Like, that's when I turn to the

streets. Did you ever have a bad Debo experience that sort of made you like, I'm really, I'm really moving different after this? GOD on my miss. I was 12 years old and shit, nigga, I guess I'm at the recreation center on 9-8 and they had a little gang over there called Alphabet Boys, you feel me? Because that's where like A, B, C, D Street. Okay. So, dude, I'm walking from the Recreation Center on 9-8, nigga going to my pineapple house. I'm passing the train tracks. And you pass the train tracks, you gotta pass this liquor stuff. I guess that's where they hang out at, you feel me?

So when I pass the liquor stuff, you feel me, some niggas come behind, went on a bike, two niggas walking. I'm like, I'm looking back, like, oh, you hit some shit from gonna go down. Like, you feel me? I never got stripped before, a ride before, and none of that, you know, I never had a gun, another that, I'm 12, you know.

So they came around, talking about, where you niggas from? I'm like, man, I'm from the east. You're talking about a nigga, where a part? I'm like, man. I'm from the East, nigga. He's talking about, I don't go fuck about none of that. You ain't from over here, nigga, I ain't stripping none of them.

Fibing me? Nix has to really go in my pocket and take my shit. That was like the first time, like, a nigga really felt like out of pocket. Like, damn, I had niggas take my shit, like, right after that, a year later, 13 years old, I copped a 357, hell of shit, and I ain't, none of that. I ain't going from none of that no more. Right.

Oh, mama. Wait, you were 13? 13. Rolling around with a gun. With a 357? In your backpack going to school or what? My backpack going to school. Wow.

That's crazy. And did that, did it totally change how you felt? Or like, when you start carrying around and you still feeling like, damn, like, I don't know if I'm really ready to use this. Yeah, I was ready. I ain't gonna lie, because there ain't no other nigga from the ride me no more.

You've been in me, like, I was out of pocket. Like, I felt a hold. You feel me, like, ain't no nigga from the hug me no more. But in that moment, did you feel like, like, did you bother to even really fight? Or you were kind of like, I'm out of. I was fighting, too. I ain't gonna lie.

I fought all my life. Like, even in elementary school, like, I fought my best friend type shit. Like I've been growing up fighting like I got small man complex so I've been getting picked on my my real actual government name you feel me that was picking on me for that type of shit So you feel me I always had to you feel me fight type of shit but getting stripped with her you feel me gun to your face and all type of shit like that just changed like niggas ain't fighting no more like if a nigger Come to me on some bullshit like that then I'm nigga I'm getting on type of shit but other than that if a nigga talking about a nigga pull up his pants on the square up What's up? Pull my pants square up. It's good You're bringing me back, man.

You just reminded me of like a time that I got robbed in eighth grade that I like pretty much forgot about. That shit was fucked up though too because it was just this bum-ass white trash kid and we were at the skate park and he pulled up with his dog and his dog decided fuck you and started attacking him. He loses his cell phone in the middle of it. And then basically like the next day they fucking see me at the skate park or whatever and him and his brother start tripping on me super crazy acting like I stole the cell phone. And I didn't have the cell phone I don't even think they really thought I had the cell phone They just needed somebody to blame, right? And they like ended up taking some of my shit

or whatever. But they didn't really like, like, I had some friends who like I ended up seeing later on and like they kind of like fix it up a little bit. This is not about me though. But anyway, he got attacked by his own dog and then I got in trouble for it.

Oh, hell no. But okay, so then you never got caught bringing a pistol to school and shit? No, not in school. I ain't get caught with a gun until I turned 18. Okay. I'm not something I caught a feeling in hell of shit. And so, like, you think that it's just rolling around with that shit sort of changed

your overall attitude on life and everything? It's got to be a little different once you start moving like that, right? I mean, yeah, it was. It is different, but it really ain't too much change. It's like more of a damn I got to look over my shoulder type shit now type shit, you feel me? Like, now I got this motherfucker. I know I know what come with this motherfucker, you feel me? But, I mean, shit, even if I didn't have this motherfucker, I'll still be having to look over my shoulder.

you feel me so it's like and they i'd rather get caught with than without the type of shit right so when you were at that age in in oakland is it like it's not like a gang thing like oh you y'all got to do this specific gang it's just neighborhood shit it's gangs out there like not no bloods and crimson and like that like it's like cliques and shit but i wouldn't in none of that shit um it was just like necessarily like you know associations type shit like who i fuck with type shit you feel me and these my partners and type share where black i'm on type shit you feel me or what school i go to like It was always something different. You feel I mean?

Each every year was something different. Right. Or why niggas wanted to hate a wild nigs wanted to do some other shit. Would you say you were like hustling per se while you were in high school and shit? I ain't gonna lie. In middle school, when I first started hustling, my first hustle was selling nil letters, bro. Really? Oh, my miss.

I was getting 25 sent out letters, nigger from the stuff. You hear that here and there. That's a good injury point. Yeah, I'm GLD, bro. I was getting 25 cent nought letters. I get like probably $10 worth, you feel, me? And just stack up. Nick, at middle school, we bait at the top of the hill, you feel me.

Can't even go down and go to the store or nothing. So the, the only resort was me. The snack man, you feel me? So, nils to pay a dollar for that 25 cent. You feel me, now later type shit, and I come home like $40 on me. Like, you know, going crazy. Mom's like, oh, y'all fuck with your hustle. You're going to go and then after that.

I ain't gonna lie like, can't even doing it no more. I started selling weed. Start selling whatever I could get my hands on type of shit. Understandable. Was that more of like what? Because like, in terms of like the streets, I feel like it plays out differently in a lot of different places. Was it like more like everybody was respecting the kids

who were actually making some money? Or was it more of like a culture of like where the most violent person was getting the respect? I ain't a lot for me, bray. It was like, I wouldn't get no niggins lunch money like that at school. Like everybody would be coming to school flexing like, niggins, New Jordans every week, nigga Nike shoes.

I come with air walks and shit, you feel me? Or some boozy-ass, niggie fans or whatever the fuck. You feel like that? That wasn't popular back in the day, you feel like shit. So it was me just really trying to hustle. Like, I had all hustling my body, like, I'm trying to get a dollar in to see, see this, you know, private come in, and my eyes was fucking went.

Like, she always been telling me even to this day, like, I remember you used to sell candy back in the day, sell shoes and sell all this other shit. Like, you really are hustling ass nigga, like, yeah, for sure. Definitely. What kind of music were you interested in back in that day? Shit, I was always interested in a rap, really R&B a lot. R&B a lot for show.

Really like old school music, like Temptations and shit. shit like that and if it was rap it would be little boosy and shit you feel so you weren't necessarily i was turned on to like the local music and not not really i don't even gonna lie except for mac dray and e40 but other than that not really bro my my big brother was he was like a fan of jacka you i'm saying um he was a fan of mac dray too he was a fan of e 40 he's been a whole lot a whole lot of niggas other niggas i weren't really a fan of yeah but were you were you just not really that interested in Like for me, one of the craziest shit about NorCal versus, like, SoCal is just like how much beef shit there is playing out through videos

and all this crazy shit. That's always just kind of mind-blowing to me because we don't really have that. I saw somebody drop a video about a rapper that I'm super close with the other day, dissing his dead homies, all this shit. I was like, I can't believe this. This is like, I have just not really seen this in L.A. Like it just doesn't normally happen. This is Chicago shit, North Cal shit, you know?

For sure. I wouldn't really like that with local music back in the day. I mean, it was, but niggas weren't really. they ain't dropping like that they would just be like banging their clicks hard like d bit general would be doing that shit and delo would be doing that shit you know it's just really be like you know what i bang it's like where a block i'm from me you know we go harder than you type shit that's that's that's that's d'n't or r b for ab was type of shit but now like you said chicago to change that shit niggins name dropping niggas all type of shit talking about pissing on niggas grays

they're disrespectful now spray painting grays oh mama's it niggins disrespectful now i ain't gonna lie that's just mind-blown god Okay, so how did you start to get your head into like making music? Um, shit, really, it was my big brother, you feel me? My big brother was rapping. He had his own little, um, group of niggas he was rapping with and shit. This was like, probably like 2004, you feel me? But, um, I always wanted to rap because of him, but then I also, um, had my favorite cartoon, um, that was Bebe Kids, and they was rapping on there, too.

Like, I felt like I was a little badass kid like then, like, you know? I'm a Bebe Kid, too, you feel me? And they had their own little song, you You know, with the emcees name is Khalil, and you feel me, LaShaan and Pee Wee, you feel me? All the niggins, they all had their little songs and shit. So I was like, man, I need a song with my name in it too, you feel me? So, you feel me, so, if I'm gonna go crazy like them.

So, probably like age. A, I started, like, writing my own shit and started fucking around, you feel, me making videos of it and shit, but not really in the studio. But my brother invited me at his little studio session at like age 13, 12, 13, you feel me? And he got on a song with me and hell of shit,

like, show me some love, all type of shit. My first song, went back to school. Niggas was like, I heard your shit on YouTube. You put it on YouTube right way? I bet a YouTube account hell of shit. They talk about, I ain't never seen nobody with a song on YouTube. I was like, yeah, we're going crazy for show. How did you feel actually listening to that final product once you first had that song?

That must have felt pretty incredible, right? It felt great. I ain't going to high even though, like, listen to it now. That's a song, weak as fuck. But just being able to say, like, I made something, I got it right here. And it did it mean a lot to you that it was with your brother? Me, but it meant a lot. Like me, I got.

the brother, you might be feeling like he was a celebrity type shit. You don't take you super serious like that, right? Obama, I felt like he was a celebrity in my eyes. Like, damn, I got like a huge artist on my song type shit. Like, he's been making all these hits I really slap type shit on CD players type shit. And now I can slap my own song with my brother on a CD player. Like that shit was dope. Right.

I'm a real rapper. I can listen to myself. Obama. My back-to-back, we listen to these actual, you listen to 50 cents. Then me next. That's crazy. Baby thrown on the MP3 player or so. Definitely.

Okay, so you just stuck with it or did you like kind of go back and forth with it over the years? I was just, I was just, it was a hobby for real. I really didn't take it serious. Like I just, whatever beat I wanted to hear on YouTube and I just wrote to it, I'm like, I'm just gonna make a song. Like, it wasn't really like, oh yeah, I'm gonna drop a table or I'm about to shoot a video. Like it was like, I'm just fucking around. But it started getting serious when I started going to jail and I started saying like, my,

like, my God, nigga, I'm separated from my group because I was in a group called Trill Young as you feel me. Okay. I'm like, God, I'm separated from my group. You feel me? Like, they're making music without me. They're going crazy. Like, I gotta do some. Like, my name watering down right now. So when I got out, I really started taking that shit serious

and I started doing like my own little solo shit. I was still with the group or whatnot, but my ankle line, like the cellar shit, motherfos was just fucking with. Like, you feel me? I had like a new sound type of shit. How'd you end up in that group? Shit, we was all fucking with an ankle line.

We was all black boys, you can we all, same block, you know, I'm talking about. But we also all went to like different schools in Oakland. But after school, we'll all click up and go to the boys and girls club, you feel me? And they had a studio in the back of boys and girls club. So that's how we just started. He's just fucking around. Like, nobody used that studio.

So it was damn to our shit. But it was all good for you to use it? Like, you don't care? Hell yeah. Were they keeping an eye on your, like, make sure you weren't swearing and shit? No. We was already in high school, so it was like, man, we're in Oakland. I'm trying to tell you, like, the whole Oakland is gutter. Like, it's a whole hood. You feel me? So it's like, then they're being raised in Chicago

or something. Like, you feel me? Like, the grown Don't give a fuck you in high school oh go ahead you a grown ass man right like you feel me as long like at the edge of Nigger 13 you already grown in Oakland real cap like niggas like I said I was walking around with a gun at 13 right like and motherfuckers really gang banged at 13 like doing all type of shit shooting houses up all type of shit like nigga making money for themselves homeless on the street like you feel me motherfuckers really grown but you stayed in high school you finished yeah for sure i finished um I had i had 60 credits in 11 grade That's not enough? That's not enough at all.

That's nowhere close, bro. So I was dropping out of high school like damn near like 10th grade, 11th grade, and I had to damn near get about, get up out of Oakland Tech, like the half, like the second semester of my 11 grade year type shit just so I can get my credits back up. So I had to go to like an independent studies program and shit, like a school that's not even like a public district, you feel, I had to go to another school like just to get whatever however many credits. I think I need 90 or something like that.

that or like you fin me a hundred right but she i ain't i ain't how to know why are you so determined to get it done your parents like it was important to you yeah well i just started saying all my partners like getting ready to walk that stage and i'm like god boy i really been slagging like i've been getting tattoos and shit like going to school stealing cars like all type of shit like i my boy is stealing cars getting tattoos you i'm saying all type of shit like i wasn't really just going to school getting my education like i was doing other shit plus i had off-campus lunch so that ain't him definitely You're making me think about how different my life would have been.

Because I had to go to summer school the summer, like, my last semester. So I was like, I was able to graduate normally, but it was like, if I hadn't done that, then I wouldn't have been able to graduate. And that's like, that would have probably fucking changed my whole life if I had to be, like, 19 and a half in fucking high school. Real shit. Real shit. I'd be blow.

I damn near, I didn't graduate until I turn, like, 18, like, a couple months after how much after I turned 18 type of shit. So I had to stay, like, an extra couple of months. just to walk that stage. Definitely. Okay, so how did you start getting locked up? Got shit, gun charge for show. That's for one.

How'd they catch you with it? Crazy story. Crazy story, all right? His manager is like, yeah, tell this one. It's a crazy-ass story, but look. All right, so look. So I'm at work, right? You feel me?

And R.P. The broker is. reason why it happened you feel me I'm at work you see me this nigga talking about he got some syrup or whatever we was gonna sip some syrup I'm like yeah it's good we can just get high for me I sip syrup he been you feel me we sit serap before at the job I work at work at work we said before it's no it's normal fuck it right fuck it we at work I work at run a car place too so you feel me so we were sipping at work you

feel like me I drunk a full cup this nigga drunk a full cut you feel but when you really think about how fucked up people look when they're drinking lean yeah like you might be able to get away with it if you drinking a little bit, but if you're drinking a lot, it's gonna be tough to pour it off. No, for sure. Oh, mamas. Oh, mamas.

I drunk a full cup, bro. I was through. And I said, I was gone, nigga, I was gone. So he asked, I want another cup. He drunk a full cup, too. He started pouring himself another one. I'm like, he said, he wants some more.

I'm like, bro, I'm cool. Like, I'm gone. I didn't even, you feel me? My body no more. He's talking about, yeah, bro, I put nine zins in there, too. No. Bro, my, my, my fist can't even reach to swing that,

you, feel me? What the fuck? My fist came in a recent swing, how through I was, you feel me? I'm like, nine Zanz, bro. He's talking about, he's talking about, hell yeah, I'm talking about, bro, I ain't, you know, I don't even remember what the fuck happened after that. All I remember was he said, nine Zanz where I blacked out. Bray, he's talking about, bro, I was in the backseat with a bitch, you know, I'm fingering there all type of shit,

you know, probably fucked her in hell of the shit. I don't know what happened. He's talking about we just riding around in a rental car, you know what I'm saying, just going crazy all night. Then he said he dropped me off, he talked about, I told him I wanted to get a, get a, get a, clean car and take it up and have him pick me up. up upstairs where dirty cars at. Man, I must have got out of that car, bro.

Went in that car, bro. I went to sleep in that car, bro. I probably went to sleep in there for like an hour or two. You feel me? I guess one of the managers came out the break room and had my backpack in his hand, you feel me? So I'm like, oh, he knocked on the window. Boop, boop, bo, bo, bo.

I look, see a backpack in his hand. Oh, I know what time it is. I got up out of there in the run a car. I know it's in that backpack. He didn't hand me that for no reason. So I got up out of, he chasing me in the runner car. I guess I'm, they're saying, I don't. I don't remember what happened.

I'm just hearing stories, but they telling me. They're talking about I'm babping in the park cars, like, bah. That's why I got the scar on my head right here. What? Yeah, it's talking about I'm babbing in the park car. Like, bah, bap, er, bap. And I, niggot, hopped out the car, nigger, hopped out the car, nigger. Bap into a cement pole, bap, nigga, back up, nigga, go all the way to the rooftop, nigga.

And I must have passed out. I guess after I passed out, he lost me or whatever. So he found me again when I woke up on the roof, and I'm running to another car, and I hop into another car, I pass out again. He put my backpack inside the car I'm in, you feel me? I best of woke up, drove down to the exit where I'm supposed to go at, where I'm supposed to exit out at, because I'm trying to get away, you feel me?

Police coming in. As soon as I see the police come in, they opened the gate for me, hell this shit, like I had all free wheel to go, you feel me? Nah, I just said, pass out again. Oh, my God. Oh, my mama, brother. All I'm hearing is, where's he at? Where's he at?

the nigga that was chasing me pointed at him he's right there in the car they came to the knocked on the knocked on the window get out the car where's the gun? I'm incoherent I'm looking at them those off again looking at them doze they just opened the door yank me out the car you feel me

my pants all the way to my ankles and you're like you feel me I'm feeling me? You feel me? It's over you feel me they're talking about Coppola what's your mom number Coppola? I'm just looking at it like this blood leaking from my head all the type of shit by the time I wake up for real

like no drugs nothing of that I'm sober I got stitches on my head and hell of shit woke up, no shoelaces in my shoe, nigger, and I'm inside the bullpen, you feel me? I'm looking like, bro, where the fuck am I at? Hellen nigger surrounding me. They're talking about, oh, you're in San Mateo jail, San Mateo County Jail. I said, jail, bro, what the fuck happened? You feel me?

They can't even tell me. So I had to wait, nigga, to get out, get bailed out, to go ask the nigga that did something that then drug me, you feel me, what happened type shit. Mind you, the nigga died, you feel like me. He died two years ago, RIP, but he died off. sipping syrup and popping pills. The dude who basically drugged you.

Oh, my mama, bro. Yeah, he didn't that drug me, bro. I mean, listen, rest in peace. But if you're the type of person who's... No, my mom, I was all avengers for show. Like, you feel me? But I was like, you feel me? I'm cool. I'm cool.

I'm just saying, like, rest in peace. But if you're mixing that many pills into lean, then I mean, you're living in a way that is, like, very likely to result in that outcome, dude. That's crazy. But I was blow, bro. I was, you know, I wanted to go hunting down with a chop after that. I ain't gonna lie, bro. Oh, God, bro.

Wow. Yeah, he fucked me up. That's a while last short. I gave me a record, all type of shit. But I ain't gonna lie. Even after that, bro, I just kept going to job of dumb shit. I was like, fuck it. I already got a dumb stamp.

Felony. Let me keep doing dumb shit. I got another job, nigga, after a runner car service. Nita, work another runner car place. Nigger, different company. Nigger, I guess I wouldn't come to work or whatever, you feel me? So they fired me or whatever. Nia, I said, fire.

I must have went up there, nigga. Act like I was a new hire. Uh-huh. Nick, I said, where are you taking the cars? Oh, to the QTA? I took, like, 40-headed bitches, and he was selling the bitches on the street. You were selling the cars from the fucking... Yeah, nigga, nigga, I was selling them hose on the street, nigga.

If I had 40 rental cars, I only got caught with 11, 11 counts of it, nigga, Grand Theft, me. How much were you selling them for? Yeah, I was, like, $600 a week, $1,000 a week? How long did you bring them back? Niggas is bringing me cars back with a bull of hose, and a nigga, all the type of shit. I was getting cars back reckless. So you weren't like, just like, oh, here, you can have this car, and you can You're doing your own rental service.

Yeah, man. My old rental car service, me. That's amazing. Y'all went to jail for that shit, though, bro. What was the charge? 11 counts of grand theft on mommas and my bill was like $200,000. Wow. Yeah.

I feel like they would have a hard time even, like, figuring out what to charge you with in that situation. They didn't find all the cars. They only could cart me what they found. Right. You know, mama. Oh, my God. And you got hit up everybody. Like, yo, that car I let you rent?

Yeah. just keep it. I know a couple people didn't snitch on me, because I got caught at probation type shit. Really? Like probation was like,

well, a couple people got your names in there in the picture right here I said, oh, no, lawyer. It's talking about lawyer. You're on probation. I said, it's over,

for sure. Wow. Santa Rita Jill, man. That's crazy. So how much did that change your life just having those charges to test your name?

Like, did that kind of make this different? Yeah, it was a big impact, bro, for sure. I had to invest in my service instead of trying to find other ways to get money for me because of other ways when I'm working for me. So I have to just, you know, take the safer way out and, you know, pray to God that this investment in myself

is going to give me to where I want to be at type of shit. Right. So because you probably didn't really have a plan in life at that point. Hell no, hell no, I really didn't. I really was just like, yeah, whatever's going to give me a bag is going to give me a bag and I just flip that. But then all of a sudden you're sort of like sitting in prison or jail. Are you just thinking like, I got to figure something?

something out and then was it obvious like the rap thing was the only thing that you saw that could help yeah yeah i feel like that's like the only thing i really wanted to do like it was either rap or the military and i already had tattoos so i couldn't do the military so you know i had a felony too so i really couldn't do the military if you have tattoos or the throat and shit right the throat and shit whatever the fuck but i guess if you already in the military you can't get it but if you went in the military you can't have that shit yeah man i was going to even do the navy route you know i'm saying the rapping and then me i caught a felony and so So I stuck with the rapping.

Damn. Okay, so, yeah, was there like a moment where you, like, started to realize, like, the music actually could work or, or when you were catching those cases, were you, like, still kind of very low level? I was still low level. I ain't gonna lie, like, after that charge, where I was just telling you about with the me stealing run of cars, that had, damn, like, woke me up type shit to, you feel me, get out and do something better.

Like, you feel me? I came out with highway robbery after that, you feel me? And I came out with vomit and drip and out of sight, you feel me, and everybody was like, oh, you're going crazy. You got your own sound. You're being consistent. Like, keep doing what you doing. And I was like, there's motivation to me.

I'm saying. I'm seeing the outcome. I'm sending a million views on YouTube. I'm saying, more followers coming on Instagram. I'm like, man, I'm going to just keep at this shit, man. Something's going to happen. And what year was that? 2018.

That the music started cracking up? Yeah, no problem. That sounds about right that you were, like, crazy into the Xanax thing in, like, 2016. You know, yeah, real shit. Exactly, all God. Because it feels like these days, if you are like, like a street dude or whatever and you were like talking about yeah I take how like all these Xanax and stuff I feel like a lot of people would look at you like you like you're tripping

it's not really cool like it used to be like that you know I caught that case 2015 so yeah it was like like 2015 when that shit happened yeah it just feels like it was kind of like there was a weird time period where everybody just acted like they didn't really know that popping a ton of pills was going to be like a really really bad idea yeah oh mammas oh mammas nah they had to they had to learn from the hardware on anything that's a fact they had to They had to see other motherfuckers, you know, damage their lives, but didn't realize even the other one in it. Even motherfuckers still sipping serve.

I know a lot of niggas and died off that shit, like a lot. And the niggas still putting that shit in their body and teaches on. I'm friends with Key Glock and I just saw that he has a tweet that he just said, like, I've been sipping served since before it was cool. And I'm just like, Key Glock. Come on, man. Number one, shit been cool for a long-ass time. Come on, Kee.

Let's be real. Come on, Glocky. Can't do that. Because Key Glock, when Pipsy was. drinking heroic amounts of lean i don't think i think keeglock might have been in like fourth grade or like second grade or something like that no offense it's just realistically no my time line wise yeah okay but was there a point where you were like you know what i got to leave getting fucked up like that behind um fucked up like that yeah like not zanz but other shit

like i'll still be fucking around i still be i still be getting turned up right yeah i ain't gonna put my business out there but i'd be turnt for show but i mean there's like a difference between you know getting a little turk and you know drinking the mysterious lean nine xanx potion nah i ain't i ain't drinking i mean i i i had my times too but i got stories for you for days god all right let me tell you about my bad trip i was sipping syrup bro oh boy oh yeah bro so i was sipping syrup you feel me i probably sip too much i probably put like an eight in like a person or something Yeah, I was tripping, hey. I had to go to my little weed, weed event too.

I had just dropped the weed strand called 304. You know what I'm saying? So we had a little smokeout event, you know, just introducing a string. You know what I'm saying? So I'm getting high as shit, and I'm drinking this personal to the neck. Nigger, by the time I left, bro, I'm feeling claustrophobic. Like, I gotta get out of my car types. I'm driving.

I feel like I got to get out of the car. Like, you feel me? So I had to park, nigga. I had to put my feet out the car and hell of the shit, put all the windows down. I'm like, bro, why the fuck am I feeling like this? You feel me? Like, then I said, man, fuck it, bro. I'm not to just make it home real quick.

Bro, on the whole way home, bro, I'm shaking my head like this, bro, like uncontrollably. I'm like, bro, I'm like, bro. Like, it's a monkey on my back or something. Like, I'm just shaking my head, bro. I'm like, bro, it's ain't cool. It happened like that for like at least two hours a whole night, bro. And I said, bro, I'm kicking the cup.

Really? Because that was some bad lean right there on my mom. What do you think was that was ever? I never heard of that. I never heard no shit like that either. but I had my body tripping, boy. And I ain't fucking with that shit ever again. So you left it behind?

I let that shit behind, and I threw that shit, chucked it. The harsh reality is that everybody ends up having to ditch it at a certain point. I don't really meet a lot of, like, 50-year-old dudes who are like, yeah, yeah, I still pour up every day. Nah, nah, that shit, that's not really work out, that shit out. That shit ain't good. Facts. Hey, bro. I have to ask you, bro, remember that message I sent you on a DM?

What did you say? Did I check it out? I don't know. It says you read it, but you probably ain't read it. it, but I got the screenshot said you've seen it. This one right here. Oh, you said that to me, for real? Yeah.

You were sleeping on me, bro. For a second, I thought that somebody sent this from my account, and I'm like, I don't think I wrote this since there was an N-word in here. Oh, my God, look at this. So you're a boxer guy, huh? I ain't a boxer, but I'm about to sleep you if you keep sleeping on me. Oh, man. I ain't no boxers.

We could box a day. Damn, I've been sleeping like that. They can be sleeping. Sponsored by Everlast. Imposter by Everlash, you know saying? And no jumper, it's going to be everlasting. When did you send that message? Oh, that was today?

No, that went today. Oh, it's just a screenshot. I said that a minute ago. God damn. I said that a minute ago. I didn't know it was like that. Damn, all these North Carolina robbers mad aggressive, too, because Lavish came in here like, man, you haven't mad people talk about me.

Like, how come you ain't here to me yet? The whole baby. The Bayfields the type of way, nigga. Y'all am I'm saying? Oakland for the type of waiting. I'm standing up for y'all. I'm standing up for y'all. Come up.

Yeah. We're going to end this today. Every rapper from every hood gets an interview. Just so you know, we're going to do like 400 NorCal interviews over the next month. Yeah, yeah, man. Say that. I like that. Let me put these up, man.

Oh, my God. That's so funny. What the fuck? You got to be fucked up. Got him. Yo, but this dude. Wait, but so you're the box? About boxing or was that like a joke?

I ain't gonna lie to hood really be boxing for real. Like, you feel me, that's our sport. Like, I've been boxing the hood since, like, high school. Like, we had a game called Snozy Fox where we just, like, you feel me, just played knockout missions type shit, like, after school. But then we was like, man, it's out of pocket. We just can't keep knocking random niggas out. That's what you were doing, like, that shit on the news about the knockout game?

But not the Asians and shit, though. Like, we were just, like, knocking out real niggas. Like, for me, like, any nigga walking on the street? Like, knock him out. You feel me? Type shit. And you feel me? See what he gonna do?

If you don't do nothing, you can't start laughing. Because that used to be some shit that was on the news, like, every day about like, you gotta be scared of the knockout game. They're gonna come up and just knock you out on the street. I didn't know that, bro, nah. We weren't doing shit like that though. Like, you feel me, it was motherfuckers our age. And motherfuckers way older than us, we'd just be, you feel me?

After that, it was like, man, that's out of pocket. We just fun to take this shit to the hood and take it from after school. It just put on the box and gloves and box each other type shit, you feel me? Oh, okay. But you're not trying to go viral for fighting motherfuckers? Because, like, I feel like... No, I ain't gonna lie. I'll bring that.

I'll for sure go viral with that. Would you box YK. O-C-Syrus? Hell yeah. He's looking for an opponent, right? Y-K.O. Cyrus? I beat his ass. I'll beat your ass, little boy.

What you talk about? Oh, wow. Here we go. All right. Because, yo, that's a big bag waiting to happen. I really fuck with these motherfuckers. Like, I play with these motherfuckers. Like, I play with a nigga chin for real.

That's a big bag right there. For sure. Nice. You get M's. For a good boxing match. Man, line that up. Man, line that up for sure. Like, you feel me?

We can line that up. Like, I'll put whatever on it. Like, I'll really knock your ass out on my mess. So, okay, where you're from, is it still normal to have a fistfight? Yeah, I feel like, a lot of places, like, you don't really hear about it too often. It's normal as fuck. I think of a lot as normal as fucking for a motherfucker still fistfight. It's just like the time of place of where you see him, man, like, say you see somebody at a mall or something.

Okay, we fighting or say you see somebody. You feel me? At a park or around, how the kids, you're fighting. But you, you feel me, you feel me? Like, niggas still hood and shit, niggas still, like, you feel me? Niggas still lost blood and shit in the streets, you feel me?

So, niggas ain't really just fighting like that, but we see you around hell of family members with your mom or your kids or whatever the fuck. Like, yeah, we're fighting. You got fighting for your whole family? Hell, yeah. That'd be so embarrassing. Your mom is like, look, like,

Femi, lucky I ain't pulled out this strap. Like, nigger, come on. Tell his mom that. Oh, Bob is, hey, they'd be out of pocket, but it'd be real-life shit. Like, you don't know what your son did, Miss Lady? Yeah. Damn, that would be intense.

sense. Oh, mama. Okay, so you start, like, getting more success in terms of the music game and everything. And, like, how do you sort of start taking it more serious? Like, how do you kind of build out your team or what steps do you take at that point? Shit, really just being consistent with visuals and shit. Because, like, back then, I wouldn't really be driving visuals. I'd be dropping singles.

I'd be dropping singles and shit. I really wouldn't do nothing. So I'd be like, man, let me actually perform in front of people and show them, like, who I am and show them what I got, like, these cars, there's money, this chain, this, whatever. the fuck you feel me and you feel me and I just start driving nigger one visual per month type shit you feel me and that's what really got my name out there and then like after that third visual I did motherfuckers start hitting me for shows and shit and I'd be starting charging shows for the low like nigger I do like 500 dollars a show type shit like whoever like even I don't

care where you at I'll do 500 dollars a show and I was like way when I first started you feel me so niggas was eating that up like yo you hot you got a million views like yeah 500 500 dollars 500 dollars so muff is like yeah he consistent so I was like yeah he consistent so I I'd start being in the public's eye. The motherfucker's start to start respecting me. Start respecting my grind and my hustle and my legwork. You feel me? Definitely.

Yeah. So did that like fundamentally change your life? Like all of a sudden having those those opportunities. I'm assuming you have to kind of start moving different. Hell yeah, definitely. Definitely. If it showed it like every gas station I'll pull up to, they'd be like Coppolo or you feel me.

Every store I go to. Cause we take a picture. Like it'll start getting hectic like to the fact where a nigga really can't go nowhere. But I still show everybody love and shit like that. Like I'm the same nigga. ain't from the change for nobody, you know what I'm saying? So like, the nigga do see me like, yeah, it's good luck, handshake, all the type of shit, that whatever you want to do, like, you feel?

So that's why motherfuckers really fuck with me, just how genuine the nigga is, you feel me? Definitely. Um, so have you ran into like, you still live in like roughly the same area or you have a certain point in time? Like 10 minutes away from where I used to, from Oakland. Yeah, I'm saying. So, yeah, for sure.

Okay. I'm everywhere, though. I got a spot out here in LA, too. I'm really everywhere. Okay. Where I'm trying to get to it. Atlanta. I'm trying to get out there A-Sat. You want to stay out there? I saw you

were just out there. It's a vibe out there. I ain't gonna lie. It's really black Hollywood out there. It is pretty fire, right? It's dope. What do you like about it so much, though? For me, I just had a couple of nights out there where we're just cruising between mad, different studios and, like, just being around all these people making music, and I was just like, this is pretty

like... That was the vibe right there. Yeah, it was pretty incredible. Like, I just feel like I'm around so many good personalities. Exactly, exactly. And you feel me, the music just come out so pure. Like, you feel me, like a nigga could really freestyle in the booth if you wanted to because it's just a vibe the whole city like you you're inspired by the whole city you feel me so like LA's cool but you're around all these you're around Hollywood the record labels everything is this sort of different studio I met DJ

drama last time I was in that living I'm saying I never met him before I'm like I was a vibe right there like I'm not even know I was gonna run into you right that was cool is there like like with you popping off out of where you're from is there like a lot of pressure for you to sort of like align yourself on more of a street level or is that not really like a thing people care about as much? Not so much. I ain't gonna lie like motherfuckers now in the bay they're not even worry about a street level for real bro. We worried out trying to get out the street level type of shit like we already got our stripes type of shit like we ain't got nothing to prove we don't we don't prove shit on social media like we really handle our business in the hood type

shit you feel me so right motherfuckers know who's certified and who's legit from that from our city type shit and motherfuckers know who's a nerd and who's a poop butt you know I'm saying so we ain't trying to prove nothing else we really trying to get out the streets and for me, beyond a professional, more entrepreneurship, business route type shit, you, feel you, for sure. Somebody told me that

Copolo used to make money primarily working with young women. And he said, he's like, he goes, re-listen to all his music. He's like, you don't really hear dope dealing bars and shit, but there's a lot

of, a lot of smooth talking. Yeah, smooth talking. Which I know that you haven't really alluded to at all throughout this interview. Yeah, man. The shit's kind of hot now, right? Yeah, you know, that shit, that shit, that's a baddie right there.

Nothing about the, you know what I'm saying? Smooth talk, smooth criminals, and none of that. Right. But, um... Young women die. I'm fucking cougars. I didn't mean young women, like young. I just meant women.

Yeah, you know. Video evictions and shit, that's what you mean? Right. Or, you know, any woman is, like, looking to make a few dollars. What's your perspective on that? Was that like a thing you kind of knew about all when you were growing up? I ain't going to lie. Like, that's just Bay Area.

I ain't going to lie. Like, that's our culture right there. Like, you feel me? Get some money out the bitch. You feel me? Like, that's what we do. Like, other cities and other states really be like, damn, like, bitch is pay y'all. Like, yeah.

Like, you feel me? It's a kingdom, not a queendom. Like, you feel me? Like, yeah, they go pay me, duh. Like, you feel me? I'm the one that's, you feel me? I'm the breadwinner of this shit. Like, you feel me?

I'm made a gold. you know what I'm saying I'm highly godly and kingly I'm so about so they be they be like damn this nigga talking like that like he just hella cocky like I'm saying but it's really like psychology I'm saying you feel me like you cocky you feel me you ain't you know a bitch ain't worth your time type shit you ain't gonna give a bitch none of your time not no no hey hi no look direction none of that you feel me not even no handshake type of shit so bitch is like that shit like you feel me like they won't they want a piece of that they want to see what what you got what you got to offer type shit because you like mysterious like

you feel me you you you're hard to read type shit you feel me okay so like family and if me especially if you really about your money like they want like they're trying to get a part of that type shit but if you know your work and you know yourself and you're really about a bag and you really about a profit you ain't going to say oh yeah it's good I'm to get you famous and get you all this for the free like nah you're funny kick in something before any of this happened right I need a fee we're gonna get that interview in first yeah is it crazy because like I feel like nowadays if you were to have you know, a young woman that wanted you to basically help them make money.

Yeah. I mean, you could, like, help them start up a fucking OnlyFans page. The same thing. There's a lot of different opportunities aside from, you know, sex acts. Shit, shit, upgraded. Yeah, upgraded now. Like, it's so many ways you can really, like I said, like, you said, OnlyFans, like video vix and stripping, all the type of shit, all that shit leads and all that

shit is like, it's all sex work, you feel? Yeah, definitely. Do you feel like Oakland is kind of unique in that way that there's, like, a lot, that that's a much bigger part of the culture than like almost everywhere else. Definitely. Like if you hear Mac Drey talking about it, like you hear an E40 even got isom in his, right?

He probably didn't talking about a whole lot of pimping, but his language, it's got a whole lot of ism in it, you feel me? So he pimp talking, I'm saying, but he ain't necessarily a pimp, I'm saying. And too short, I'm saying, he, he bout about it too. Like, you feel me? Like, it's a whole, all black, I'm saying,

like, it's a whole lot of niggas really with the culture type shit. But all black kind of got burnt from what I understand. I didn't bring this up at all when I interviewed him the other day, I remember when I interviewed him last time that his team was kind of telling me that there was an article written about him at one point and they asked him about all kinds of street shit but then when it shows up in the article they're basically making it out like he was on some crazy shit right right which I feel like is what the government wants to do to anyone who's

taking part in that's exactly what they want to do and now the media's on board too they're like we're going to smear anybody who's got anything to do with that as being a total monster right yeah so that's definitely all black doing he's trying to change his route like I said how motherfuckers trying to get out the street type shit like that's you feel me that's a next profession type shit so he trying to get out that you feel me and trying to brighten his horizon type shit like don't look at me for this look at me for all this other shit I can do I've been putting niggas on I've been feeding the homeless I've been you feel me all black been doing hell other shit besides the music he made right like to me it's weird because it feels like such a like

everybody involved ideally this is totally consensual like a girl wants to make money Exactly. She needs another guy to like basically watch out for, hold it down, keep things moving smoothly. And then there's guys who want to pay for the services of the woman. Everybody involved in this is consensual ideally. Now there's a lot of bad versions of that. Nowadays, nowdys, bitches don't even need nobody like no bodyguard or nobody to watch

over them and nobody to babysitting them. Like it's a lot of renegades now, like especially with only fans. You think, you think bitches need niggas or only fans? Like, nah, they can just sign up themselves. Oh, let me sign up and do this. Let me type my information here. here, boom, signed in, OnlyFans. Do you know a ton of girls who carry guns now?

Oh, yeah, for sure. I keep hearing that that's, like, super normal. I ain't gonna lie. I feel like Detroit that made that, Chicago and Detroit, they made that popular. When I was interviewing Rio the Young O.G. And I'm C., Mike, they were basically saying that, like, we know girls who will, like, stab you in your sleep,

got their own poles, etc. I don't know. Nothing about that in Oakland at all. Like, family, that ain't our culture at all. And I heard, I mean, when I seen that in their little movies in Detroit that they do that shit with guns, I'm like y'all really make it believable because I can really see you bitches with guns

Ruey on mama. For sure. So wait, do you have an only fan's page at one time? I'm sure. I still out there. I'm just waiting for the right time for me to really make that motherfucker active.

You know what I'm probably going to have like a room 304 or something going on. What was on there at one point though? I had shit on there first. I ain't had nothing on there. I was going to put yeah, me and me and Davichaya a little shit on there.

You know what I'm saying? But I ain't I ain't doing that. I ain't trying to. Not right now. there, maybe later. Okay. Hey man, you can't just let fucking Safari and Tiger be the only ones getting back down there, right?

Obamas. I don't know. Oh, mamas. For sure. Okay, so, yeah, wait, when you said, just said, Dabakaya? Yeah, Dabakaya. Who's that? Dabaya, ah, it's a lot, some little witty woof in Florida, you I'm saying. Oh, okay.

She got, I don't know, how many flowers the bitch got, like, $500 or something like that. They're all fucking whoopty-woo's in Florida. Yeah, oh, witty-wos or whatever. Yeah, man, bitch ain't shit. The other question I wanted to ask was just like how you ended up teaming up with Kamaya. Also, Josh, the car, why you guys coming in? Shit, I ain't can lie.

Kamaya's from the hood for real, like, she's from the East. I'm saying from the 50s. I'm talking about the high street, you know? But we've been locked in type shit since I was like true young and day. She was hearing the nigga music like, oh yeah, y'all go crazy. Like, you feel me? There ain't nobody out here making music like y'all type shit. So we've been locked in.

but we ain't never really got the drop shit because she was in the deal with DJ Mussel, you feel, me? So now she got out that deal, you feel me? I'll be making music by myself and shit like that. She was like, man, fuck it. Like, let's make a joint tape. It wouldn't even like that at first.

We wanted to just make a song type shit. We made digits, you feel me? And as soon as we made digits, she was like, man, this shit knocking, like, this shit's slat. Like, we gotta do make more music than this. Like, we might as gonna make a whole joint tape, like for Oakland. I'm like, man, I'm glad you said that.

That's love. Like, shit, like, man, we need that. Like, you feel me? I'd be cultural right there, like legendary right there. Right. So we put that in order, you know what I'm saying? Like one song after another, after another, after another. And yeah, she made, she called that shit Oakland Knights.

Definitely. And it took off. Yeah. That was good chemistry, though, like, in terms of you guys together. Hell yeah. She was in the studio, niggas. As soon as she got out the booth, nigga, I'll go in the booth. And, you feel?

So I got up the booth, nick, she'll go in the booth. Like, it'll be back to back songs, just like that. She was such a cool person, like when I was interviewing and stuff. I'm like, damn. Yeah, she dope. She down to earth like a motherfucker. Yeah. Super, super down to earth.

Okay, so tell me about this new project that you're working on. Code name 16, man. That's a tape dropping April 30th on Mamas. Okay. Reason why I called it code name 16 because it's the 16th letter to alphabet. Oh, wow.

Yeah. You know what that is? I could probably, like, write it down on a piece of paper and figure it out, and it might take me a few minutes. It's P, man. The 16th letter to alphabet is P. Fuck. Because I was just starting to remember

that I know Q is the 17th letter, and then I was like, what comes before? Okay, the P. It's the P, man, the P. What is the P? P stands for, you, I'm saying, player, you know what I'm saying? PGO, pimping going on, you know what?

You know what I'm saying? Anything in that manner, in that order? I'm saying that's what it is. Definitely. Do you look at too short as, like, a real guiding light in terms of the kind of shit you're doing? No. No?

I mean, I fuck it's too short, but no. Is a different style? Because I feel like he's like the ultimate guy who's been talking about all that type of shit for a long-ass time. But not, I ain't gonna why I'm at Joe. Bray, bray. See, look, it's the thing too, because everybody would be like, R.P. McJ., you feel me, MacDrey, shout out the bay.

Like, but they can't name three songs by that man, like shit, you feel me? Like, do y'all actually listen to his music? Because every song he made was strictly pimping. Like, no square shit involved, none of that, you know what I'm saying? Like, bitch is not my job, all type of shit. Like, everything was strictly pimping PGO, like, no square shit. And, like, too short, I fuck her too short, but his music was just, It was like more party, like party-wise type of shit.

But Mac Dre is like, I can hit the blade to this shit and really feel what he's talking about and give me motivation to really go get some more money out this bitch. Yeah, and I guess like Too Short really kind of like never wanted you to think that he like spent a ton of his life pimping. Pimping, right. He was just like, I'm around this, I'm associated with it.

He branded it like a motherfucker. Right, like. But then when it really comes down to it, like, you know, Too Short was always kind of like, I'm, I was not that guy in the trenches really doing that. Mac Dre was kind of like, no, I was really, I was that. I'm him. I was the main character in that movie. And he made it stylish.

He made it popular, like, you feel me? Because his shit wasn't like hardcore guerrilla pimping. Like, he made it like, it's a fashion. Like, you feel me? You see these glasses I got on. You see this grill. You see, you see the cars I got, and I'm dancing like this. Right.

Like, I made it a fashion to be pimping. Like, you feel me? Like, it's actually crazy just how influential he became and how clueless the fucking mainstream really is to it in so many ways, you know? That's what I'm trying to bring it back out. Like, not his style, like a rapping, but I'm trying to bring, like, you feel me, like the ism into it, like, get what I'm saying.

Like, like, your partner said, like, do you listen to his music? Like, listen to the words, like, that's how I'm trying to get motherfuckers and feel like, my music is going to feel like, oh, it's partying, bouncing, all the type of shit. Like, it's going crazy, but if you listen to the words,

like, damn, this nigga pimping. It's so bumbers. Definitely. Anybody you want to shout out or anything that we need to know? Yeah, man. Shout out you for having me on the show. Thank you. Oh, my pleasure.

Now that I know that I avoided that fade, I'm like, oh, shit. Thank God we did this. You know what I'm saying? Shout out, True Youngers, you I'm saying. Shout out the whole TY-96 Boston. You know what I'm talking about Oakland, California. You know what I'm saying? The whole bay.

I'm saying, we have no jumper, you know what I'm saying? We're in this motherfucker. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey. How often you have people trying to say that you took that from Fetty Watt? Oh, man. They didn't say I took A Fretty Wobb, but they say I took like the voice, like my cadence and shit.

and shit, like from Feddywop, like. But you've been around since before he came out, right? Yeah, for sure. Oh, Mama's. My mom's like, me and Feddywab, then, like, came out the same year type of shit, you feel me? So it was like, I wasn't doing the

my way. I wasn't doing nothing of that. But I was like, you feel me? I had probably like almost the same cadence, but my voice deep like a motherfucker, so you, feel me? I don't know why they would think I want to sound like that and you.

Like, that's my singing boy. For real. Right. Shout out Fettie Wap. Oh, mama. Shout out Fettie. Shout out to you. Shout out to everybody.

We'll watch this. This is a good one, man. Yeah, and shout out my twin, Whiskalifa, because you feel me, they say we look alike. Oh, my God. That is, I guess. If you were going to say that you look like anyway, okay, that's a good one. I try to, like, avoid it because people would be like,

I think I'd be telling everybody they look like somebody too much. She said Y and J. Oh, okay. I'm the Cucci, man. Amazing. Bro, thank you so much. It was amazing interview. I really appreciate it.

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