No Jumper - The Cece Reacts Interview: Chicago Upbringing, Scamming, Prison, Blowing Up on Youtube & More

Episode Date: April 28, 2022

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No Jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. And today I have a very, very exciting up-and-coming YouTube sensation on the podcast. CC React is in the building. How are you doing? I am good. How are you? Very excited to have you here. You've been blown up. And I'm very impressed. You occupy a very different lane. I guess it would be fair to say than pretty much any woman I've seen out there on YouTube. Everybody keeps telling me that. Yeah, really? My YouTube is, you got it.

My YouTube, I started January 4th. I didn't post my first video until like January 30th. Oh, it's that new. So you're only like four months in? Yeah. Wow. Not even a whole four months. Wow.

And then I went viral like my second week. So. And it's like, damn. Okay. We could just dig in right there. But I think that there's a lot of ground that we have to cover before that for sure. Okay. So you're from Chicago?

I'm from Chicago. Southside Inglewood, grew up on 71st in Yale. Okay. And was it crazy back then? I don't know what y'all think crazy is, because I think the shit that goes on out here is crazy. To me, it's normal, you know what I'm saying? Right.

It's like I know who is where, and, man, I'm on, I have a love, a love affair with Chicago. Right. It's like Chicago is who I am. Right. It made me the way I am. I mean, when we say crazy, it's just basically because there's obviously a lot of high-profile rappers and not necessarily them but like friends of friends or whoever like who really have drawn a lot of like to the whole gang war out there and everything but they they always say that it's like way bigger now than it used to be that it wasn't it's tremendous now now it's like god damn you know you got so many different uh cliques i don't even want to say games you got so many different clicks and it's just like everybody being toy when i was growing up i grew up in the i grew up in the 80s and 90s you know so it's like

I grew up in the era when the guys got intoled or they had beef or whatever. They said get the women and the children in the house. You know what I'm saying? Don't bring that shit around here if the women and kids out here. Now shit, they're going to blow you down with your kid. They're going to shoot the grandma and the shorties. What was it like when you were going outside when you were a kid? I was the dirtiest little girl.

You were poor like that? No, shit. That's how you know you had fun. Well, you're dirty? Okay. When you're a little kid and you go home, you're going to house and you're Dirty, that's how you know you enjoy yourself. You know what I lived there.

It wasn't no grass. It was dirt. You know, I grew up on 71 years. We had no grass in the yard, so we're out there kicking in the dirt, running, playing softball and a little baking lots. I mean, shit, we chilled. I had a ball. Going to Hamilton Park, going to the swimming pool, meeting up with the different people

from different blocks, you know. So your childhood was pretty fun overall, even though you're growing up over there? Yeah. That was normal to us. Right. I mean, when you, when you're in a certain environment, you become that. So, you know, it's not, oh, the Cosby Show did this and I did this. I didn't look up to them people.

Right. You know what I'm saying? I looked up to whoever was in my neighborhood. Okay. Those was the heroes to me. For sure. So then you started to get older. What was high school like?

I didn't go. You didn't go? You were done by that point? I was something, yeah, I was something drugs. I was in the street. At what age did that start to kick off? 14. 14.

Well, 12 and a half. How do you get introduced to that? shit, I grew up around drugs. I mean, you grow up seeing drug dealers all your life. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, those are the people. I didn't grow up around doctors and lawyers.

I mean, we had teachers, but the teachers were the teachers in our head. Shit, you're supposed to be there, you know? Right. But the people who was doing something in the neighborhood was not those people you've seen on TV. It was the drug dealers. So I always, I watched them from an early age, how they used to maneuver the drugs, this and the third. And I always knew, like, I always had like a hustling.

mentality to me. It just is what it is. When I was, I used to sell like, when I was young, I used to sell like poems and, you know, drawings, my little brother used to do shit like that to get money. So then when my father passed away, my mom was addicted, she was addicted to crack. Really? So my father passed away and I knew, like, you can't run over me. You know what I'm saying? So I knew I could run, I could run a block. How'd your dad pass away? Cancer. Oh, really. At relatively young age? No, my dad was old as shit Hey dad Oh He was the oldest shit Okay But was that always a presence

In your mom's life Or did you notice Superior where she got into drugs When my dad got sick When my dad got sick Like my dad was the only dude My mom had ever been with So

When my dad got sick You know it was hurting my mom It was hurting my mom And one of my aunties introduced my mom to crack Wow It was just to numb her pain even though my auntie was doing that shit

she was functioning, she was able to function with it, it just took my mom down. Really? You know what I'm saying? So I had to fend for myself, my brother, and my cousin. We had a cousin with us at the time and it's like shit, it was just every man for herself. My mom was out there doing whatever

she was doing and I was holding down the fort with me myself, myself, my brother and my cousin. Right. So it was just on some straight survival shit when you started selling drugs? You literally had to put money on the table to eat? No, I lived, I It was both. Shit.

Both. And then it just, it became to a point. I became a savage with it. Like, I don't like nobody doing nothing to me. You know what I'm saying? So, okay, my brother didn't gang bang. I did enough game banging and everything. So my brother didn't have to.

But you formally join a gang early in your life? Or how did that go? What I used to do, I used to be a bone crusher for the GDs. Okay. You know what I'm saying? But I was not GD. Describe a bone crusher. When I'm going to woodbitch.

What's so if a bitch needed her ass beat, you were just going to hold it down? If a bitch needed her ass beat or some shit popped off and was out of hand, I was already violent. You know what I'm saying? I was already violent. So, hey, pooh, my nickname is pool. A, pooh, they hollering up at the porch. You know what I'm saying? Hey, check it out. And me and my little crew were gone.

But how were you able to be in that environment and not actually have to officially squad up with a gang or anything? Don't they usually like they want everybody to kind of pick a loyalty at some point, right? Well, no. No. I'm saying whatever neighborhood you're in, if you grew up in it, you know, it's your friends and shit. So I grew up in it, but I was not GD. Okay. And I love them with all my heart, but I'm not GD.

Right. So what kind of drugs are you on? Crack, heroin. Really? Mm-hmm. And did it occur to you at that age that this was having a very significantly nimbly. negative impact on the community and the people around you? Because, I mean, you're seeing that happen to your mom, right?

I didn't give a damn. Really? I didn't care. You know what I'm saying? I knew my mom was getting high, but I wasn't getting high. My mom was getting high and she wasn't providing for myself, my brother or my cousin, which his mom was getting high too. I have to do what I have to do.

I'm a kid. I can't go and say, let me get this job over here, this, that, and third. I was doing hair in the neighborhood, but I had to do what I had to do to take care of us three. Right. You know what I'm saying? Did I care of? about the effect that it had on the community? No.

No. You weren't afforded the privilege of even being able to care about that because it was so life and death for you at that point. No, I got to be honest with you. I don't care now. You know what I'm saying? Everybody has to take responsibility for their own actions. Right.

If you choose to get high, I choose to sell you the drugs. Right. It just is what it is. I mean, the CEO of McDonald's probably doesn't really have a hard time sleeping at night, right? Who are you telling? More grease, please. The McDonald's is killing you a lot slower than the crack.

But you could eat a reasonable amount of McDonald's, and you could do a reasonable amount of crack. And end up in the same place, right? Right. I mean, we all drink a little alcohol, right? I'm not an alcoholic. I don't drink. But I know people who have, yeah, I don't really drink either,

but I can have a few drinks. There's been time periods in my life where I drank a lot, and I mean, I know people whose lives have been ruined. and I have good friends whose lives have been completely ruined by alcohol. I mean, it's all about how you can handle your shit, I guess, right? I guess. I guess.

I don't, I don't, listen, everybody got their own poison. You know what I'm saying? So whatever people choose to get into, that's on them. And it's your right to kill yourself, right? Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Like when you think about, like, extreme sports,

people die all the time, skiing or snowboarding or motocross. they die doing what they love If you die doing what you want to do That's your fucking business right? Yep I mean cracks in extreme sport I guess Uh huh I just know like

I'd be telling people like I don't I don't trust crackheads like that You know what I'm saying I'm sure you've seen a lot of reasons To not trust a cracker And people like well you gotta have compassion I don't got to have shit That's not my that's not what I'm not Jesus

I'm not no If I don't trust you I don't trust you I'm not gonna give a crackhead a hundred dollar bill and think they're going to bring my fucking change back right you know what I'm saying you can do it and then you let me know the results and if he runs off on you I mean whose fault is it this fucking drug riddled crazy guy or is it your fault for making a bad decision you know yeah and people like well what happened to you in your life that you don't try crack heads life shit right life if you do trust the average crack head then clearly you just need some more life

experience listen I trust them wash a car right I trust them to be who they are but shit. Right. I mean, every every crackhead has somebody that loves them. You know what I'm saying? I fuck with you, but I don't trust you. And it's just that simple. So, do you think that you

are always going to have this sort of like alpha male boss bitch personality? Or do you think that you developed that because you were thrust into this position where you have to take care of all these people? No, it's just me. I don't even think listen, I don't even think I'm an alpha male boss bitch

none of that. That's what the world put off on me. I just think I'm C-C. I'm just playing C-C. I don't let other people's opinion affect my life. But you have to realize at a certain point that you clearly have a personality

type that the average woman doesn't really embody. Because a lot of these bitches are fake. A lot of these bitches are fake. Listen, I get a lot of flak. Sometimes I I put on makeup to do my pictures and shit like that. But when I'm doing my videos,

I don't got on no fucking makeup. I got to do. I don't wake up with no damn makeup. What type of female is not comfortable looking in a fucking mirror? I can't go out the house because I don't have on makeup. I can't go out the house

if I ain't got all this weed. Now, to each its own, if that's what you want to do, that's what you want to do. But don't push that off on me because that's not what's going to happen. You know what I'm saying? And you can't tell me where I think you should do this.

Man, fuck you don't think you can't think shit about over here. I was just having this conversation with someone where as a guy by the time you reach the point where you realize how much work it is to put on makeup and get your hair done and all that stuff at that point you start to realize

that any girl who always has their hair and makeup done is a fucking nut job because that is just so much work and it's just like how to me it's like a sign of insecurity listen once again to each is own you know some people have to live

their life like that I'm comfortable When I was in prison, you don't have all this makeup and shit. You know what I'm saying? You don't have all this weaving shit. I got comfortable with being myself, looking in the mirror and saying that's who I am. Do you know how fucked up I felt coming home trying to put long-ass weave in my hell and trying to put makeup and shit on? And I can't, I don't feel comfortable unless I go out and look like this. I can't sleep in the bed with a dude all fucking night because I don't want him to see me with a bonnet on or some shit.

Man, fuck you. I want to be me and I'm comfortable being me. sleeps with their makeup on. That's some weird ass shit right there. Like, you know. Bitch that's off of makeup. You don't even know who she is.

How dumb do you think this dude is? I'm looking at you like, what the fuck are you thinking? Now when I choose to pop out, you know what I'm saying? When I choose to pop out, cool, I'm gonna get my shit. I do my shit.

But far as me, just getting up and stepping out every day and, I can't let nobody see me. You know, I don't get my makeup on. What? You mom born with that shit? And I think a lot of,

a lot of females need to start talking to their fucking daughter and letting their daughters know it's okay and it's okay to be comfortable in your own skin. You don't need a disguise. What's an appropriate age for a young girl to wear makeup? Shit, I don't know. My kids, oh, really?

My kids are one and a half, so I haven't had to think about it that much yet. I don't know to say 16 maybe. I heard somebody mentioned it the other day and I'm like, fuck, I'm going to have to think about that shit one day. What the fuck? I think a lot of times, us as adults, we put the pressure of the world

that has gotten on the way. on us, we put that shit off on our kids. You know, and we put our insecurities off on our children too. Right. So if I'm walking around with we even shit in my head every day and makeup on my, on myself every day, I have daughters, you know what are they going to do? What are you telling them? Yeah, what am I telling them?

It's, you're not, you're not beautiful enough. Right. You know what I'm saying? You're not, you're not pretty enough. You need this. You need this. You don't need shit. But then at the same time, it's like you kind of want to give them the freedom to

experiment and to mess around and to look the way they want to look. And it's like, it's kind of a product of us being older and jaded that we see makeup and we think, oh, you're doing that to cover up your insecurities. Because from a kid's viewpoint, it could just be, I want to put makeup on because I think it's fun to make myself look pretty or whatever. They might have such a different viewpoint on it. I don't know. Well, Adam, if your child is 12, 13 years old, they want to put on makeup to look pretty.

Why do they feel they need makeup to look pretty? That's the question you got to ask. Why do my 12 or 13-year-old feel like they need makeup on to look pretty? What about them isn't pretty enough? But all the influences they're taking in. They're watching music videos. They're looking at TikToks. They're not going to be stupid for only so long.

They're going to start to think at some point, oh, Nikki Minaj has makeup on. Okay. I want to be like her. Listen, Nikki Minaj is doped as shit and she rich as fuck. But Nikki Minaj lives her own life. You know what I'm saying? Your child living your fucking crib up on your face. roof, but up under your roof.

Yeah. So why is your child more in tune with Nikki Minaj than you? But even if the kid's in tune with you, I mean, you're putting on makeup sometimes, right? She sees you leaving the house with makeup on to go to work or do whatever, and she's thinking, oh, shit, that's how the world works. Why do Nikki have more power over your child than you? But it doesn't have to be Nikki. It's like any woman typically.

Why do they have more power over your child than you? I mean, that's a real question. Why do people look outside of their fucking house or outside of themselves? How is it possible? Listen, my children with my flaws, I'm a fucked up individual. It just is what it is, but I'm talented as fuck. And I'm real. My kids think I'm the queen of the world.

What are the ages on your kids? 24, 22. Listen, I'm sorry. 24, 22, 19, 18, 17, and two grandchildren. Okay. So these are all basically adults. So they know what's going on. Yeah.

And even when they were children, they knew what was going on. A lot of parents are fake as fuck with their kids. You know what I mean? I need to shield them from the world, but you are the world. Right. There's no world outside of me right now. Right. You know what I'm saying?

I'm not going to shield you from me. But, okay, did you have the thing where your first kid, you're really trying to protect them from the world? And then as you have more kids, you start to just realize like, oh, shit, they're going to see everything. They're going to hear all the swear words. they're going to do everything so at a certain point. Like, I feel like parents get less protective as they have more kids.

No, I've always been the same with all of them. Like, I'll go to bed about my kids, but I'm real realistic with my children. You know what I'm saying? I was a young mother. I was a teen mom. I had my first baby when I was 15 years old. So I grew up with my children. And I didn't hide.

I went through a whole bunch of trials and tribulations. Like, I'd have been a stripper. I'd have been a rob. I'd have been a drug deal. I haven't been a bank rob. I've been all of these things. Outside that I went to college. I've had my children.

children sitting in lectures with me. You know what I'm saying? I went to got my GED and they were sitting in school with me. Everything I've been through in life, I mean, from the biggest to the smallest, my children have been there. Rather, it's been fucked up, a domestic situation. It's that and the third,

my children are prepared. You know what I'm saying? And I know a lot of people say, well, why would you raise your kids like this? I bet my kids can survive without anything and yours can. No motherfuckers are great. You know what I'm saying? I put a lot of me and them. And people say, well, you might be a fucked up person. So are you. You know what I'm

saying? Maybe you are too. But I guarantee you my kids have street sense and they have books sense. Right. So I never felt the need to protect them from life. No, you need to see this shit. Because if you go out here and you don't know what the fuck is going on, you're going to be lost in the sauce. I have all girls. I never wanted my daughters to be used and abused by no dude. And are you pretty? You know what I'm saying? Now, you don't know, you don't know, you don't know what's coming along with this nigger or the type of dude you're falling for. You know what I'm saying? And I'm set up here.

I know. I know what's too, but I ain't said nothing because I want to protect you. And now you're rebellious. Now you want to run away and you want to do all this action. No, let me tell you. The real. Let me tell you the real. Like I said, I had my first baby when I was, what, 14, 15 years old.

You know what I'm saying? You've seen me go through shit. I went through it so you ain't have to. And a lot of people asked me, well, you know, we didn't got to that part yet. but I'm just going to skip ahead. You know, when I went to jail, when I went to jail or whatever, like, well, how did it affect your kid? She had made them stud up.

And they were prepared for that. That's a lot to put on a kid, though. What ages are we talking? My oldest girl was 16. Oh. My oldest girl was 16 when I went to prison. Okay. And listen, children can thrive out here if we get out their fucking way.

Right. It's the parents who be blocking these kids. It don't be the kids blocking the kids. Okay. What is it? 16-year-old girl do when her mom goes to prison? She took care of her sisters. Who are what ages?

She was 16, 15, 13, 13, and 12. Right. And was there any support network of like sister? The grandmother and grandfather. And then what happened was she worked two jobs. I had a little money left over, so she had that. So she's out of school at this point working two jobs? No, she was in school.

And working two jobs. Wow. Okay. Yep. And working two jobs. She took care of her sisters. Yep. She worked two jobs and went to school.

Wow. And right now she's getting ready to complete nursing school. People be like, are your children fucked up? No, my kid's doing better than you. Right. My kid, one of them is moving into her career right now as we speak, right now. Right. Well, hey, that's the proofs in the pudding.

Everybody has all their stuff and they can say, once again, I'll be criticized a lot. I don't give a damn. Do I be quiet about it? like am I going to hide anything about me? No! No! This is my life. You know what I'm saying?

Your opinion don't matter. But what I am going to do is keep speaking my truth. You know what I'm saying? The truth is a hard-ass thing to look at. Right. The truth is a hard thing to look at. And people don't like the truth. They want you to live up under their false sense of truth.

That's not me. Definitely. So, okay. Between, like, you just listed out the craziest rap sheet of all these different things you were into, you're a bank robber, a scam? Like, I know you didn't get locked up until you were like 40, right? No, I was 30, 31, 32. Oh, okay.

But still, like, pretty crazy that you made it through such a long period of time before you got caught up. Like, how, can you explain, like, all these things you got into and, like, how they sort of linked to each other? Like, what was going on? I'm going to tell you something. How did I get into stripping? So that was where it kind of started? No, I've always dibb in the street. So you were selling drugs, but then you kind of transitioned into stripping?

Well, I was selling drugs. I stopped selling drugs and I transitioned into taking drugs into the county jail. Oh. Were you working there? Or you were just visiting? No, I was a kid. Oh, okay.

I was taking drugs in there for some of the COs. Who put you on that? C.O. Okay. And they just told you this is this little scam we got going. They knew some people on the inside. I knew him. Hey, check this out.

I need somebody to bring this up in there. You're going to be able to get through. Right. Boom. Where are you putting it? I mean, you can confirm or deny what I'm suspect. No, I'm just saying, no, it wasn't stuff. What you would do is say, say if it's marijuana, if it's weed, you know what I'm saying? You take the weed, you grind it down, you put it in the envelope, shake it all the way down to the bottom. Okay. Cut the envelope, and then you have somebody run over the envelope to flatten it out.

Oh. Then you tape, well, you tape it before you flatten it out. You know what I'm saying? You tape, but it has to be flat. And you line your belt line with it, your waistline with it. That's smart, okay. Lying it all the way around. Now, you're going to go on the CO shift. So if they got the drug dogs out there, you ain't got to worry about it. I ain't going to tell you what the fish,

but motherfuckers know what I'm talking about. Right. So if they got the drug dogs out there, you ain't got to worry about it. You know what I'm saying? You go up to your visit, whoever you're going to visit, and you go to a certain window.

You know what I'm saying? This was the envelopes. When you go to that window, they have this, like, this foam shit, this rubber foam shit, that they used to dig out. They used to dig out on both sides and you put it through there

and they have like these little tweezers things they could pull it. Now when you're taking joints up in there now these joints can be marijuana joints or you can be taking heroin up in there. Pre-rolled joints? You pre-roll it. You got to pre-roll this shit. Pre-roll it. You know what I'm saying?

Pre-roll it and you take it to a certain window, same scenario. You know what I'm saying? You take it to a certain window that guard is on shift. Mynuffics ain't even going to pay attention. When you speak up in the county, they had these little circle of things, little, you know, speakers. They used to take the screw out.

You could take the screw out. You stick them bitches through there. You got five minutes. So how much weed would you actually be able to get in there on one trip to the prison? Well, I did two trips a day on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Oh, wow. But how much actual weed, you're getting like, because it's kind of hard to imagine it being that much.

Maybe a couple ounces of trip. On one trip? Wow, okay. That's pretty good. How much money? money were you making? I was making $2,500 a trip. Wow. So you're making serious money right away even though you were young, huh? Yeah. I feel like this. If you're going to go to jail, you might as well go to jail for something. But I mean, also if you're going to take a risk,

you might as well take a risk where you're in cahoots with the cops. Yeah. Well, he won't the cops. This fucking COs. Those starts talking about. Okay, okay, okay. I'm going to put that evil on you. All right. I don't know. Put that on you. All right. And so, okay, that you're doing that for how long? And you, you, you're doing that for how long? You didn't get caught? No. No, I didn't get cold for this shit. I didn't get called what I went to prison for.

Okay. I got told on. Right. But okay, so how long were you doing that for? And then you're also, that doesn't sound like a full-time gig. You're doing other shit as well? No, I was just doing that. Oh, okay.

Oh, no. I had a job in McDonald's. Just to keep appearances up or what? No, I just had a job at McDonald's because I should have a job. That's what society teaches you should have a job. You know what I'm saying? You shouldn't have a business. You should have a job.

Okay. So I had a job at McDonald's, but I was hustling after McDonald's. I was selling the food like in one shit on me. So what? You're selling me in your establishment? You're selling weed and shit after McDonald's? No, I'm selling their food. The little Harper High School kids used to come up there.

And the Harper High School kids used to come up there. I used to be selling that shit, dirt cheap, pocketing the money. Right. You're like, you're in full-blown, like, oh, memories. Like, oh, the good old days to steal the food for McDonald's. It's not even the food. It's the money.

It's about the money. You don't have to pay these people. I worked hard. In my head, I worked hard to make these fucking sandwiches. You know what I'm saying? So you're going to pay me. Right. But now, would you call yourself a business owner at this point?

I am a business owner at this point. You have employees? Yeah. So do you look at that and you're like, damn, I hope my employees don't steal from me. They can't steal from me. Hope they don't treat me like the McDonald's. Fuck McDonald's.

Right. When did McDonald's, listen, McDonald's, like, came to visit me, McDonald's had made my ass fat. Right, well. McDonald's not for to let me in. I'm not going to be one of their own as, none of that. But you don't want your employees to treat you like McDonald's, right? And maybe one day you have thousands of employees and you start to seem like,

man, fuck CCC. C C C C C ain't ever did shit for me. Shit, they say that shit now. Do you know, even if you do something for a motherfucker, they still will say that? Yeah. That's the first thing a person say when, when, win some shit man motherfucker ain't never did nothing for me it's like I bought everything you got on i heard you was talking about robbing the pizza parlor this seems like a theme no don't put me in your

establishment that's why it's not i'm telling you i could not have a job do not hire me no i don't want to work i don't want to work for these people that's why i have my own shit okay um all right so you're you're doing this prison thing for a while yeah i stopped that why did you stop i was just working at McDonald's. I just started working at McDonald's, making a $5.15 an hour. It sounds like you were making more money smuggling weed. I was making more money smuggling weed. Right.

I was. It's just one of them things. I started working. No, I was making $5.25 at McDonald's. $5.25 to deal with the motherfucker cussing you out. Bitch y'all coming in and beat your ass, you in the drive-thew and they're talking about coming down, whipping your ass.

And you're like, bitch, you come in here, I'm breaking your jaw. You know? And then for, or a manager, you didn't get there at 5, 6 o'clock in the morning, a manager to tell you, well, they're always right when you know they wrong. Right. You know what I'm saying? Or if a motherfucker's saying, well, I got you a $20 bill

when you know they didn't. You know what I'm saying? And the manager still give them that money back in your drawer short? No. You pay me $5.25 to treat me like shit. I just remember that even though I'm trying to give you shit about disrespecting McDonald's.

No, but every job I ever had in my house. entire life, which I was done working by the time I was like 19, I was robbing them blind and I fucking hated it. Oh. Oh. Yeah. No. This, listen, they sent us to school and every fucking thing to tell us to go out into the world

and, you know, get that American dream. That American dream is going to make somebody else rich. Yeah. Fuck your dream. They ain't even thought about yours. You got me standing there bag in groceries for eight hours. All you're doing is giving me an opportunity to think about how to take something for eight hours.

That's all you're doing That's all you're doing And just think about this I'll be looking at some of the comments On some of my shows And people like Well you should work an honest job I should go out here

Like when I was working at Subway You know what I'm saying I got the dirtiest bitch Coming up in there I'm talking about bitch dirty You just came from up Under somebody fucking bridge You know what I'm saying

But you're coming up now You're gonna make You know what I'm saying Motherfuckers want you to go work some shit like that so they could come up in there and try to talk to you and look down on you. I hate that. Man, I will beat your ass.

I will take Mr. Subway shirt off with my tank top on and beat your ass. Get the fuck out of here. My mom who starts telling me that she judges people based on how they treat the waiter at the restaurant. Listen, these people can't run their fucking life. They can't run their household.

They barely can't tie their fucking shoes. They go to somebody little cubicle or go shake them fries and shit over there and come and talk shit to you. I can just imagine what your comments look like, because I know what man look like. I can just imagine what your comments look like.

People try to tell you how to run your shit. It's like, shut the fuck up. I think that's why they don't bother me that much, just because they know I don't give a fuck. They can criticize. It's all good. Listen, and your ass doing your shit while they criticize it. They're still in somebody Wi-Fi trying to criticize you.

I remember I was talking to somebody at one point early on, and they're like, man, I see you always in the comments. arguing with motherfuckers. I'm like, God damn it. Like, I'm known for this. That's when I was like, I basically stubbed. Yeah, black won't let me argue with nobody. I'll be, I'm like, oh, let me get this bitch. Yeah.

Motherfuck's like, man, you fat. That's all right. Because I eat good, bitch. You're anorexie. Get off some noodles. You fuck as you talking about, huh? I like it. All right. So you, how do you get from McDonald's to stripping? Is that how this goes? Oh, no, no, no. Oh.

So leave McDonald's in law. And I end up going to Burlington Co factory. Not Burlington. Oh, sorry Burlington. I just lied on you. I would never work for y'all motherfucking establish me. I end up going to Value City Furniture and working for Value City Furniture. So when I started working for Value City Furniture, I was in the Eckert Department, which was like a seasonal job.

They had seasonal items. Shit like, this is another $5.25 job. $5.25. and you got they don't want to hire enough staff there and so they put you in multiple departments so you could be in Eckert, you could be in home goods, you could be in shoes, you could be in toys, you could be in all these fucking departments at once

and they won't have nobody else come in and they expect all this working shit to be done. You know what I'm saying? And one day I was just standing there, I was like, I'm not doing this shit. You want me to do 14 in caps? You know what I'm saying? and you up in the office smoking cigarettes.

Ain't helping them. They rolled up your sleeve because you don't want to get your white, nice white shirt dirt. Man, fuck y'all. So he fired me because I told him I wasn't going to do it. His name, Jay. That was his motherfucking name.

And guess what he's working at right now? Bear. No, the men's wear out. I went up in there last year. I was Jay! It's not you? You know what I'm saying? It's not you?

Yeah. What's your message to him? And now that you're on no jumper and your career seemingly taken off? Shit, back my career was taking off when I say. Oh, okay. But listen, Jay, I'm on no jumper, motherfucker. I'm on the place. I'm right here.

Right. I'm right here. We're here. Listen, I'm right here. Yeah, airing it up. Okay, so then how do you get from there to the strip club? Where am I skipping steps again? So, okay, now check this out.

I left there and went to this beauty supply. I was at this beauty supply. this was $5.55 an hour. Okay. And then what they do is they take out, they take out all this other shit. So I'm making probably $120 every two weeks. Oh.

So they save all this, imagine this is cash. And I stayed at that abuse supply and I was just thinking to myself, man, fuck this. So one day, this chick came up in there and she was looking for some weave. And I helped her with her weave. And I was like, well, what do?

She was like, I'm a stripper, girl. I got a lockdown tonight. You know what I'm saying? I got a lockdown tonight. So she was like, you should come dance. And at this point in time, I'm real skinny. I'm like 120 pounds. Long ass, red hair, weaving my hair.

Like before they was winning, I was wearing that shit back then. Give me an 18 inch. I'm a, and so she was like, you'll make a lot of money. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to come out with you. I went out with her night and I made so much fucking money. How much? I made $2,500.

And you were making $120 every two weeks at your job? All right, yep. We're stripping. Yep. And so that first night, it was a lockdown. It was a lockdown. Yeah, what does that mean? Lockdown meaning everybody come in and they close the doors and you're

standing in to, they open the bitches. Right. It was a private one though, because it was. was for a bachelor party. So I already had a pot. A pot is when they already put money in just for you to star dancing. So you already made a certain amount of money before you even start doing anything. Right.

And I can't dance. You can't. No, I can't dance. How did you get by? I just sell weed in the strip clubs. So I'll go up in there before, I'll still realize shit. I'll go up in there before everybody got there. All the females got there and I get familiar with the dudes.

So by the time I got familiar with them shit, my own fucking. I want me dancing with them. I never was prepared to dance. I'm not for the strip. Really? But it was just like a good place for you to sort of advance your hustle in general? Yep. I could sell weed to them niggas and I could sell weeds to them bitches because I don't

have no habits. Right. So it's like. You weren't smoking weed even at that time. Mm-mm. You never were into drinking or any kind of drugs at all? I've drank before. Right.

But it's just like, I don't like the way to make you feel. I need to think. You know, I got a smart-ass mouth and I need to be functional all the time because I don't want to say. the wrong thing. The motherfuckers try to slap me up because I'm drunk. No, I want to be sober so I can fuck you up just in case you try me. Yeah, definitely.

So. Respect for that, though, because a lot of people, it takes them a long fucking time to figure out that life lesson that it's probably better to be sober, mostly sober at least. Well, another thing, my mother was an alcoholic as well. You know what I'm saying? So alcoholism runs in my bloodline. Okay. So I don't, I don't, I know if that's in my blood, it's easy for me to get turned on

to those things. Right. You know what I'm saying? So that's just not something for me. Definitely. I'm not knocking it. If that's what you do, that's what you do. Me is not for me.

I don't even look right with no shit in my hands. I just don't. Give me the, I don't look right with it. Right. Caffeine. I drink mainly water and juice. Respect. Okay, so how long were you doing the strip thing?

Are you seeing crazy shit in there? Like, is it introducing you to a whole wild side of this life? I got to tell you this. So check this out. I've seen a lot of crazy shit up in the strip club. I've been part of a lot of crazy shit. My first bisexual experience was up in the strip club. Wow.

You know what I'm saying? That was my first time ever being with a girl. That's one. Two, I used to dance with this chick. And this bitch, she was the type of bitch just because she thought she was a strip of everybody wanting her. It's like, you mediocre looking ass bitch. You know what I'm saying?

Your ass ain't even real big. It's just big and flabby. Come on, you built like a fucking penguin. But how big it go? This one night we go to this lockdown. We went to this chick we knew we went to her party. And so, this shit funny.

We went to her party. And I got sick. It used to be this dude in Chicago. He was a comedian. His name was Tornado, a.k. Big Daddy Wu, may be rest of peace. So I'm over there. I crawl up on Tornado.

I said, Tornado. I say, I don't feel good. He said, he don't feel good. He said, you want me to take you home? I was like, yeah. I had just got there. Now, how I got there, I wrote with her and these two dudes. She said this dude was her boyfriend.

I wouldn't know. You know what I'm saying? So he dropped me off at the crib. Now, the next day was like the Bud Billigan parade. So I take my kids to the Bud Billiken parade, and we at the Bud, and I see one of the dancers. So she was like, hey, you coming out tonight? I was like, yeah, I think. Why, what's up?

She was like, I don't think you should come out tonight. Why? Like, man, you know, it is what it is. I'm coming out. What I didn't know was that lockdown I was at had got robbed. And a couple of people got shot. So they thought you lined it up. Oh, let me tell you why.

Because you left early. No. Not even that. The two niggers who we was in the car with. Oh, right. Those are the guys? Yes. Shut that fucking boy like that.

It took me have it go. I go to the fucking lockdown next day. Me and the girl, we up in there. And this other shit come up in there. She got some dances. So she on the phone, she was like, yeah, you know, any word about, you know, the robbery last night. And she's talking on the phone and all this other shit.

Long story short, she say they're here. You want me to handle that. The same dudes? The same dudes were there? No, it's a bitch. It's this bitch who used to bring her girls up in there to dance. You know what I'm saying? She used to bring her girls up in there to dance.

She used to bring her girls up in at a dance, and this bitch was, she was about that shit. Now, I'm listening to her talking everything. All the time they're saying that we set the shit up for that party to get robbed. All the time, it was the two dudes who stuck around, you know, after I left from shit, peeped scene and robbed that fucking place. Right. It took a long, I had to hit old girl ass and take her fucking joy from her to get up out of that bitch was going to shoot us up in there.

It's like... You stole their gun? Man, I hit that bitch so hard. Knocked her up off her fucking feet. And took her gun from her. So that was the end of you stripping there or what? That was the end of me stripping, period. Really?

How many years were you actually in there? Like two years? Two years. It wasn't for you. Your heart wasn't in it? No. My heart don't be in shit, but what I want to do is salt. But all those girls are getting drunk as fuck every night too, right?

No. Everybody don't drink up in there. I feel like most strippers I talk to are usually like, yeah, I was an alcoholic for a few years because I was stripping and then I'm saying, here's the thing, I don't know, I can't judge nobody on their shit. Everybody got, like I said,

everybody got their own addiction and shit like that. But a lot of girls, they get drunken shit up in there so they can actually do that shit. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's something else to have a nigga you don't know pulling on your nipple. If I had to do that, yeah, getting drunk is the least

of it. I might need a Santa, to the face every night. I think that's one of the things that made me want to quit dancing, too, was like a dude really pulled on my nipple. I'm walking past him. They don't bite his fucking lip. The fuck you bite your lip my neck.

And it was my time. Wow. It was my cycle time, too. My shit was sensitive. I don't do no shit like that. Oh, my God. So it was time to be out of that. Yeah.

You don't pull my fucking nipple off. Okay. So then what do you start doing after that? When I started doing after that, I started working at this liquor store. Oh, okay. And I'm going to leave that shit there. They allegedly, allegedly, a lot of money was stole for these people, allegedly.

Allegedly, I did. She's so amused with herself. This is amazing. You're so proud. of your heist. I said, I said, listen, they said I did it.

I said I didn't. Right. They couldn't prove it. Damn it. Prove it. You had no proof. Yeah, you got no proof. I mean, it's been a long time, right?

Listen, the shit was like $80,000. From a liquor store? Oh, it was a warehouse. Oh. Shit happens. Hey, it wasn't me. She'll take son. She'll take son.

I ain't hiring you for nothing. You should. I got my own shit. You're going to need your own security guard who works for me to keep an eye on you. Anyway, okay, so you robbed the liquor store for $80,000. I don't really. See, you just like this. Who can rob a liquor store for $80,000?

Motherfucking rob a liquor store for like $200. You don't, oh, I'm not stealing shit for $200. You found the motherfucker who's stealing $200. You found the motherfucker's their fucking head. Okay. But that's what dude's doing. I run a liquor store. It's like, yeah, yeah.

That's crackhead shit. Right. You know what I'm saying? No. No. That's how, when I was hustling, Like when I was scamming From whatever fuck you want to call it

If a bitch said I only need to do this for a couple of dollars Now bitch you're the wrong car Right You know what I'm saying We're going to get some money I'm going to get some money I'm not going to go up me and playing with you That man you don't care about life

So you're about to risk your life Your freedom It just says what it is for $200 Right That's the dumb shit to me That is dumb That's the dumb shit to me People are like she's just so proud of something

You're damn Skippy What the fuck? I'm gonna be Mad of myself, I'm beat myself up. No, I'm cool with who I am. I mean, you got away with it. What? You got away with what? Well, most of these crimes.

What are you talking about? What crimes did I commit? Well, okay. Whoever took this 80K? Yeah, it wasn't me. They looked on the camera. It wasn't me. I had nothing to do with that.

Good enough from me. Where do you go from there? I'm trying to figure out how you get to the point of scamming and then getting caught. I didn't get cold. Well, got told on. Yeah. All right, so look, we're just going to fast forward because this has been a whole bunch of shit up there.

I mean, all these different business establishes with Burlington Coe Factory was a fake out. It wasn't Burlington. It was a fake out. It was a bad city furniture. You know what I'm saying? Have it go. I got cast before a reality show and I left Chicago and I moved to Philly. Oh, and what was a reality show?

Because didn't you say you're filming one now too? Yeah, it breaks up an empire. It took a, yeah, I paused it. Oh, but so you had one a while back? Yeah, it was. This was a big reality show. What year are we talking? This is in 2014, 2013, 2014.

Okay. And so, film, we getting ready, I got casted for a reality show, boom, had to make the move from Chicago. This is 2013, 2012, 2013? This was like 2011, 2011, 2012, up and there. And so I had to make the move from Chicago, and I had to go to Philly.

Now when I went to Philly, I hooked up on one of my label mates. Now, what I didn't tell you was, I ended up getting a publishing deal, a major publishing deal in 2007. Right. Because I went and got my GED. You know, and so one of my assignments was to write a short little book or whatever, but the shit was fire, and I ended up getting signed.

And what was your first book? Memoirs of a bitch. And you got a book deal. Yeah. And I did multiple books off of that, too. How many copies were these books selling? Were they doing well? They did decent.

Yeah, they did fairly decent. Wow. Yeah, I remember my first book signing. Me coming to D.C., like, I have a ride. Where was it? Like a bookstore or something? It was a bookstore called Sun something. It was in D.C.

I did the D.C. book fair. Memoirs of a bitch. Yep. What was the gist of what you were writing about at that point in your life? Well, I was, listen, I've just people telling you you can't do shit and you know you can and people trying to get over on you. I was in a relationship. ship at that point of time. And motherfuckers used to really, really think I was

stupid. You could think whatever you want to think. But I guarantee you, I'll smart you. So my book was my homework assignment, like I said. I end up getting signed. You know what I'm saying? But what it was based was how I was feeling at that point of time. I was salty as shit because the motherfucker

told me I couldn't do it. So it took me seven days to write that book. Really? You just went crazy? I went crazy. I did my shit too. You wrote on a computer or writing No, I wrote it in my hand. Really? I'm bringing by hand, not in my hand.

I wrote it by hand on no book paper. And then I went to Kennedy King College, and I typed it on the computer. Wow. And then we was printed out. We was printed out so we could get ready and send this shit off to the different publishers. Just so happened, my teacher told me, like, Facebook had something called notes. And so my teacher, the professor I had at the time, said, hey, won't you upload a couple chapters? chapels. Chapters on notes.

Right. You know what I'm saying? I did it. And the next day I had publishing company after publishing company. Really? They were just reaching out because it was going a little viral in their world? I don't even know what viral meant back then, but yeah, they was reaching out. So I ended up signing with LaFam FaceHell. Did you even know anybody who

was kind of up on the book, hustle? Or were you like, really? No. I didn't know anything outside of my household in that block I was on. Wow. I had never been out of state. So you must have really felt like you would kind of crack the code right there because all of a sudden you've just managed to make all this money off your own creativity, right?

You must have been pretty fucking happy. No, no, no, no. Because we're not going to talk about like I made a whole bunch of money because that don't even happen like that. Yeah, okay. People get these deals and they get these contracts and you be so fucking happy that you got a deal and you got a contract that you're saying that you're saying that you're saying that you're saying your sold over to the devil. That's what the fuck you didn't do. I didn't make a whole bunch of money off neither one of my books.

Oh, really? I didn't start making money off my books and so this last book I just did. Okay. And even though I was selling a hell of books when I was locked up, I didn't see none of the money. You know what I'm saying?

My motherfuckers was banned a book because I was locked up and they was like, this bitch really bought a book. She really got a book. That's like, okay. Damn. So that kind of make you feel sad and not motivated to write anymore?

No. Do you have this bad deal going? No. I didn't realize how bad the deal was. You got to understand something. I couldn't even pay attention to the deal because how my home environment was. I was in a really, really fucked up situation.

With your guy? Yeah, I don't even want to talk about that shit. That's just how much or how bad it was. It wasn't a good, it wasn't anything healthy. It wasn't nothing healthy. I'm talking about the worst time of my life, like the worst. People talk about prison and jail, no. That time right there, that was the lowest point of my life.

It was an abusive situation? Yeah, the shit was horrible. My fuckers know? You seem like so smart and motivated and cunning that it's kind of surprising to me that you would even be able to end up in a relationship where a guy was sort of taking advantage of you. That was my first boyfriend. You got to understand something. This is the shit I seen when I grew up. I grew up seeing this.

So when you grow up seeing certain things, it's in you and you have to, you have to flip that switch. Like, all right, this is not what I'm going to do. how I got myself up out of that situation was like I said, I didn't know anything outside of that house or the neighborhood. So when I went and got my GED, when I went to got my GED, I graduated and I went to get my associate's degree

and media communication. Right. And I got around people who was motivated to do something. I had no motivation to do anything but fucking make babies. Make babies and learn how to cook. You know, and argue and fight. Because you had only grown up seeing so much.

So you thought it was normal for a guy to be beating the shit of his girl, and you didn't really have this vision of what you could be, huh? No. So, like, when I got my book deal, when I got my book deal, that wasn't no, yeah, I got a book deal, I got a book deal Monday, I got to fight Tuesday. You know what I'm saying? It was not a good situation at all. It was not a good situation at all.

Lord Jesus, it wasn't a good situation at all. So how did you get out of it? Preset, Michelle, Jesus, and my children. my children. Like I said, when I went off to college, I got around people who was motivated. Can I get some water? Of course, yeah.

I got around people who was motivated, and they were motivating me. I was meeting all these people, people in the radio program. I'm sorry, hold on. I was meeting all these people, and they were cheering me on. You know, I was worked so much more,

and I had no clue. Right. I'm worked a lot. I had no clue. I had no clue. I remember the first day in class, me getting up there, and everybody, like, everybody before me get up there, you have to tell what your name is

and tell what you want to do in life, you know, and something that you've accomplished. So the most things that a lot of those people have accomplished was just making it to college, sad enough for school. Well, I don't want to say most, I'm going to say all up. Right. So when I got up there and I stayed my name and my accomplishment was I have a book.

you know what I'm saying that's doing numbers right now so my fuckers like for real go find it right and they're like yo she really got a book you know what I'm saying so it that portion of that took me somewhere else you know so with that people wanted to collab with me I even did a few movies right you know I did a few little low budget movies or whatever that went to the theater and I made a lot of money off of them wow but it's like that's amazing though that you hadn't really had that kind of positive reinforcement. Because even when I bring up the book thing, it doesn't feel like you have the expected amount of pride

in having done that that I was expecting just because that is a really fucking big deal to do that, especially early in your life and coming from your circumstances. But then you're in this new scenario and you're seeing people who are actually giving you the recognition that you deserve for that. Yeah, I've had so many, I know who I am.

You know what I'm saying? I think I'm a really, really dope. I think I'm a very dope person. I think I'm very talented. But I've had so many false stars. I have so many people that like to use me and use my talent. You know what I'm saying? It gets to the point.

It's like, yeah, okay, whatever. I'm viral. I'm constantly going viral and I'm putting out work and I'm making money. But I'm still like, I want more. But I still can't believe I'm sitting right here with you. Yeah. If that makes sense, you know, and then. I look forward to becoming normal to you because I think you're like a really, really good orator.

You could do a lot on camera. Like, I think that you'll probably go very, very far in this whole thing. That's, can I say you something? I really like, this is the stuff that I love. This is what I love. I love this. I like, I like telling stories. I like the whole movie thing.

But it's like, there are so many other people like me that has made it. But like when you reaching out to people like that and they be talking crazy and shit, so you're like, oh, hold on, bitch. Hold on. You should just, you shouldn't have too much self-doubt because I would say you're like top 5% of human communicators that I've ran into and I've done a lot of these. Yeah, I don't have no self-soubt. It's just like, am I, there has been, I don't want, listen, I've had some bad shit happened to me in life, but I've had some magnificent shit. The only person getting my way is me. You know what I'm saying?

Now, I've always been around people. God has allowed me to be around people always that has been bigger than me, that has a bigger vision for me. You know what I'm saying? This is the first time I'm just falling back and trusting God. Because I got a majority of my life, I'm like, I got it. I'm gone. But now this is the comments I've ever been. This is I'm not on no bullshit in life, no nothing.

And when I came home from prison, I end up managing freeway Rick Ross. You know what I'm saying? I end up getting D. Brooks exclusive. I don't know if you know who that is, but like the NBA young boy, Queen Niger, he's a big producer. He's a big producer.

I end up getting him. I end up getting corporate. You know, I got all these big people around me. It's like I got to keep going. I got to keep going. Then I got black. I'm on a boxing show daily. that prepares me. I'm in front of

thousands of people every day. Okay, but how do we connect the dots between you having this book and you're starting to work on movies and stuff and then you go to prison? Oh, we was talking about that. I forget. Now, so I ended up moving from Chicago. I moved to Philly. I end up

moving with one of my label mates. She was on the same publishing company. She ended up introducing me to this dude. They was taking all day with the damn reality show. You know what I'm saying? We selling books and everything, but we ain't making the money we supposed to be making off these fucking books. Okay.

How ever it goes. She was like, well, she, you need to make some quick money. She was like, my folks, you can go shopping and, you know, he could cash you out. I'm like, what kind of shopping? Hmm. You know what I'm saying? So she was like, nah, you just go up and that little car, little lid. Lid, lid is the ID.

And go up and that go shopping and all this other shit. So when, when do see me, you know what I'm saying? I was a little tiny little thing, whatever, whatever, whatever. He seen me. He was like, no. He didn't tell me this. He told some other people that he was like, no, I don't want her shop. I got something more for her.

You know what I'm saying? And it was banks, one of banks doing cash advances. So my first day out, I made $42,000. That was your cut? No, I split it. But I was making $42,000 between $38,000 and $42,000 a day. Wow. Just withdrawing what?

Cash man. $10,000? $5,000. No, you ain't going to draw no $10,000. What you're not going to do. $5,000 at a time. No, you don't do it at a time now. Don't you start making sure.

shit up. I'm just guessing. I don't know. Anything over $2,500 off one car has to have a supervisor, signature. So if I don't want that bitch to come from out her office, what I want to do, give me $25 on here and give me $25 on him. You know what I'm saying? So I just made $5,000

in five minutes. Now, $5,000 and $5 minutes off cash vances. Now a lot of people say, well, you're taking money out of people account. Bitch, you don't make enough to have $25,000, mean $2,500 off of cash vans. Right. You don't make that much.

You know what I'm saying? You go to work every motherfucking day. You got your, anytime you use your debit card or something, which I'm not using a debit card, that's another thing. I just got to throw that out there. You get a notification to your phone. You don't make enough for me. I said I want 30, between $38,000 and $42,000 a day.

That ain't coming out your fucking account. You know what I'm saying? Understand the difference. I'm not cracking cards. I don't give a fuck about your debit, your bank account. What I want, I want some corporate shit. You know what I'm saying? I want to fuck with the banks directly.

Respect. How long are you doing that for? A couple of years. Really? And making a lot of money. It sounds like you're making a ton of money at some points in this story. But when you make a lot of money, you spend a lot of money. And when motherfuckers know you got money, everybody got their hand out.

You know, people ain't going to go out and figure out what they can do to get what they need. They're going to call you first. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm taking care of people. I'm taking care of animals. I'm taking care of kids. I'm taking care of extended family.

I'm taking care of friends. It's like, God damn. Right. You know? And so, however it go, I had, I was up. I had, I made enough money so I thought, outside of the shit that I'm in blue. I'm like, okay, I did a nice little run.

A run is when you go off on a road for some days. Right. And you, you cash out. You're just hitting everything. You know what I'm saying? So I was talking to, I was talking to my folks. And he was like, how much money do you think we have made? I was like, shit, I don't know.

A lot. He was like, you think we have made millions? We have made millions. You know what I'm saying? So he's like, well, what do you have to show for it? So I was like, shit. He was like besides cars and, you know, clothes and shit. I was like nothing.

He was like, well, I just bought a, I think he bought an 80. unit building with like a boost mobile attached to it in a restaurant and shit you know he's like i just bought that he was like what you're going to buy and i'm like damn you're right you know what i'm saying so i get on the phone with one of my folks from chicago and he on the harrow's chicken and i tell him i say um i want to i want to i want to i want to i think i want to buy harold's chicken and i'm saying and see if i can franchise it out this and the third he's telling me cool he told me how much it was but do you have any reportable income at this point that's the main thing I'm thinking about right no nope

only thing I was doing was that right so I was wait wait right another thing I was doing I was managing artists oh at this time already at this point of time I was managing artists I've been around the music scene because there's so much it you I mean it's more so that my story on my channel on the CC reacts is telling these stories right so you're just hopping on all these different hustles you're just you're doing crime you're managing artists you're doing books like just whatever you just just have a shit lot of energy, huh? People thought that my money, my main source of money was coming from the books.

Right. Because my books was out. You know what I'm saying? So people thought my money was coming from the books. You're making like 10 cents a book, probably 50 cents a book, something like that? Like a dollar and $30 a book. Okay. And when I was saying that I won't make no money from the books, I said, fuck them books.

Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm a motherfucker's going to stay right where they hit. I'm real. I'm being real. Right. So then I'm managing the artists and all this stuff. supposed to be going on with the artists on footnet costs got junky-ass business partners and everything

so i hollet in chicago tell him i want to you know i'm gonna purchase a harrow's chicken so he's telling me okay shit by the time i took him $15,000 you know what I'm saying i'm look i took him $15,000 telling him i'll break him the other $15,000 back you know what I'm saying that was the money i had in my my pocket and shit about the time i got ready to go back i was on the news being indicted now how did i get indicted yeah that's what you want to I got it, ooh, 79 counts came down. Right. They charged me with 79 counts.

I got corrupt organization, conspirators. I can't name all these fucking counts. I think they made up shit to get put on me. You know what I'm saying? I don't even know half of the words that I got charged with. But I went to prison on 38 of those counts. And so who told? A bitch!

Hold on! Hold on! So my folks, right, we go to the fight. We go to the Mayweather fight. Whatever. We go to the fight and, uh, You know, a lot of pimps. The shit was in Vegas.

A lot of pimps got their holes and shit out there. And he'd meet a bitch. He'd meet a bitch. And my folks, he from Oakland. I don't know what it is about these damn Oakland dudes. They swept and down their pimps. The whole culture. Everybody want to be a pimps.

Everybody want to be a pimper. That's not even him. It's just how his ass is. Hey, baby girl, you don't got to sell a pussy no more. Come on. I got some fuck. You know what I'm saying? I got something better you can do.

And he didn't, he'd have met this bitch. and he'd have bought this fucking wreck into the motherfucking camp. You know what I'm saying? Have it go. I was getting ready to stop doing all a little hustling shit. So I get a phone call from him.

He's asking me, you know, like, hey, I need you to, you know, take this bitch and show her what you do. I tell his ass, no. You know what I'm saying? You take the bitch. You're above being the teacher. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? But this is my folks. Now, this is my folks. And he's still my folks. This is my folks to his day. I'm saying. I love the shit out of that boy. But I'm no.

You know what I'm saying? No. So he, yeah, you take her. You know what I'm saying? Take her. No, no. So I'm arguing with him on the phone. Like, no, no, I'm not taking this bitch.

I'm not taking her. You know what I do? I ain't never did this shit. No. So he called one of my people, one of our mutual people. You know what I'm saying? Somebody who showed me how to do some shit. And he called me and he said, hey, he's like, man,

have I ever told you anything wrong? he never told me shit wrong you know what I'm saying you're getting ready to stop you gotta pass the torch teach somebody else what you know how to do I knew how to do everything you know what I'm saying I know how to do everything he just is what it is and that shit would never go away and so him telling me that

Maddie I argue when I don't like doing shit him telling me that I say okay cool man when I say the trip was so bad from the time this ugly bitch got into the car but she just didn't have any street smarts it's not even there the bitch was a rat anyway. She was already a fucking confidential informant.

She told you that or you figured that out later? No, I found out later. You know what I'm saying? He broke some rules. Certain shit. We all broke rules when it came to this bitch. You know what I'm saying? For one, she wasn't supposed to be around me.

Then he had her in places she wasn't supposed to be. You know what I'm saying? Long, we come over the plan. We said we're going to go to Pittsburgh. Whiz Khalifa was coming in town. So we had a reason to be from out of town to be there. You know what I'm saying? We get lost in dirty-ass Pennsylvania.

We get lost. And I'm talking about the first hotel we pull up into. I'm talking about, first of all, we driving through some shit. It looked like the hill have eyes. You know what I'm saying? People look like they're cold, man. It's scared to come outside. Just gloomy.

It's just gloomy. You know, when none of my car is working, none of them. So I had an attitude because it's where my work don't hit. So we get to, we get to some place. place. It's a hotel like a holiday end or some shit. It's like creepy up in there. You know what I'm saying? That was the omen right there.

Bitch, turn around. You know what I'm saying? Turn around. That night she wanted to step on the phone. She on Vegas time. We in Pennsylvania. She want to step on the phone all night. You know, we try to get some sleep. Anyway, when we wake up in that morning, when we wake up the next morning, I knew why

it was like gloomy up in there. It's a fucking cemetery downstairs. You know? It's like, come on, man. when you're hustling, you're supposed to always listen to that first mind. When you're stealing, listen to the first fucking. God damn, when you're doing some shit you're not supposed to do, listen to that first mind. Right. You know, we go from there.

We finally get to, I want to say, it's Robertson Township. It's Robertson Township, I'm pretty sure. But it was, they got another mall out there. Anyway, she wanted, we found, no, we check into this hotel, a decent hotel. We go get something. We go like to Joe's Crab Shack, get some shit to eat. We go shopping in a little mall, grab a whole bunch of shit. It could have been a Ross Park Mall or some shit like that.

But we got like Giuseppe's all that something little shit. Anyway, that shit don't matter. Now the next fucking day, I'm telling you, everything is saying, yo, don't do nothing. I'm telling my people like, I don't feel right. I don't feel right. Have it go. My plan was to, I tell her, I say, look. I'm going to drop you off, you know, you go on your way, I'm going to go mine.

You know, okay, that's the plan. We're supposed to go get something to eat. We go get something to eat. When we come back from getting something to eat, she's talking about she wants to try a bank. The bank was TD. Okay, she's going at first bank. They say their cash advance machine was down. She wanted to try another bank.

Bitch, that's not the plan. You know what I'm saying? That's not the plan. She's going to the next bank, you know what I'm saying? All in all, when she's going to this next damn bank, She in there for like five minutes She in there for five minutes She'd come out

All the time she left her wallet So when she get her wallet Like I'm on the phone with my folks telling her Like telling him like I'm not feeling this shit He's like lead a bitch You know what I'm saying? I'm like I just can't leave her wallet When she's walking back into the bank

She's throwing receipts and shit away I will find this out later You know what I found this out in the paperwork She's throwing receipts and shit away She'd go up in the bank Now this bank isn't like this parking lot Like this Home Depot This grill restaurant

all this other shit. So I'm part. You know what I'm saying? Have it go. She's up in that motherfucker for a long time. I'm on the phone like 10 minutes. I'm like, damn, this bitch ain't came out yet. You know what I'm saying?

So he was like, man, he was like, check on or whatever. I hang up from him. I call on my other phone. She won't answer the phone. One of the things is, well, two of the things, when the bitch goes out of the bank, you're supposed to always be on the phone with them so you can know what's going on.

You know what I'm saying? You are the ears and the eyes on the outside. They are the ears and eyes on the inside. I broke that, you know? So she didn't answer the phone Next thing I know A fucking police officer A police car speed up in there

Block off the entrance I hop in the driver's side seat And move the fucking truck Move the van around You know what I'm saying With the car The truck around So I can see

So when he go up in there I say yo this bitch She she gone You know what I'm saying I call my folks This bitch is gone You know what I'm saying He said get up out of it

I was already gone I was already gone I ran back to the hotel. The hotel, you got to go down and this little overpass come back up. I ran up the motherfuck. I didn't run up no damn stairs. I wouldn't run up no stairs.

I wasn't running up no stairs. I went up from stairs. Got them bags. You know what I'm saying? Grab tub bag. Got everything up out of there. By the time I came back downstairs, the police was coming up in the parking lot.

The bitch started telling them inside the bank. Wow. It took six months for them to indict me. You thought you got away with it or you knew you were waiting for that? No. That's not what happened. So I had to get the bitch of lawyer. You know what I'm saying?

The first lawyer, $15,000. When I called a check and see what had happened, Maddo you, she didn't want to be bonded out of jail, which should indicate right then and there she's telling. So when I called the check on what happened at her court date, the lawyer tell me I can no longer talk to you, you're a code defendant. I ain't ever been to jail the day before my life. Right.

You know what I'm saying? So I call my folks the bitch telling, she's telling, she's telling. She's not telling. I told him what the lawyer said. He said, filed a dude. I found him paid another $15,000 to get another lawyer. you know what I'm saying I'm saying

it's too late he had been on the phone with the bitch she on the little jail calls and everything and they just having normal conversations but the conversations

is about the shit they didn't record it everything they didn't record it everything really and so they handed down on indictments six months later wow and so

how much time do you end up getting they initially gave me 10 years that shit was I don't know like how do you even begin to process that? I never processed it.

What happened, though, was the Attorney General was indicted on the same shit. The Attorney General was scamming banks? The Attorney General was scaming period. She was scamming the jurors. She was stacking time. She was

doing a whole bunch of shit. But they gave me the 10 years. So when I went up in the computer that, well, I ain't going shit. When I asked the CEO, when I seen the shit on the news, you know what I'm saying? I'm pitching a bitch. So I'm complaining to the CEO, and I'm telling the CO, yo, they just gave me all this fucking time. They talked about this bitch getting probation.

But she's fucking with the drawers, and she fucking with all this other stuff and all this other stuff. And so, the CO asks me, like, how much time you get? I told the CO how much time I get? And the CEO went up on the computer, and she was like, how much time you got? And I tell her again, she said, you got a two to four. They told you 10, but it was actually in there as a two to four. I never went back to court. I never got a chance.

This was two days after. Right. I never got a chance to appeal. nothing. So I don't know if motherfuckers was just like, nah, we're not going to do this. I don't know what it was. But I just, I praise the God. And I told him, I say, I get out. I said, you don't got to worry about me in this

situation again. I said, I'm going to do what I got to do. I say, you know my heart and you know what I want to do. Right. Let's make it happen. What were, given that you made it through, like, the majority of your 20s or whatever without even getting knocked up, what was it like for you to all of a sudden be thrown into this crazy environment?

That shit wasn't crazy That wasn't that crazy? No The girls are pretty tame Girls are different than guys You know guys got egos Everybody's tough and macho And everybody got an attitude

Shit don't even have to be that hard Right You know what I'm saying I can't tell you how it is To be in a male prison You know what I'm saying Because I was in that fucking And kicking in and

Fucking I said it Fuck You know Sorry, do you identify as bisexual? I'm a bisexual. Listen, I'm going to say this. I'm pretty sure everybody heard me say this.

I was fucking. I think, listen, I think women are the most beautiful creatures on this earth. I think I like looking at them. Like, I like smelling them. But I like dick. I like penis, wee, cock, whatever you want to call it. That's what I like. I feel like a lot of women deal with this contradiction.

They love women, but then they also realize. Getting fucked by a dick is a pretty good. No, don't just say a dick. Because you could go back a dick. No, it has to be attached to a male body. You're not fucking me with no deal, though. Right. That's what you're not going to do.

Okay. You know, I know. I can't see nobody rubbing no rubber dick across my mouth and telling me, you know, just suck on the tip. What the fuck is that going to do for you? What is that going to do for you? What pleasure do you get getting me to suck on the tip of your deal, though? You know what I'm saying?

I, oh, babe, how that feel? I don't know. What the fuck? You know what I'm saying? Right. No. Attach. And that's a lot of these chicks' problems.

They like fucking plastic things. Right. You know what I'm saying? So they get detached from a man. No, I want to touch a man. I want to fill on his chest. I want to dig my nails in his back. You know what I want that energy.

I don't get no fucking energy for no energizer battery. I can't, like, as a person who has a penis, I cannot watch a girl fuck another girl with a fake penis. It just doesn't It does not even Register my brain As something that is worth my attention That could be happening

In the corner of the room I'm not looking over there No then a bitch is saying A bitch who I'm back Pull out your backpack You know what I'm saying Or it's just I don't know

To my studs I love you guys You guys are cool But you can't fuck me With no deal though Right I don't I just don't

I don't Fuck myself with a deal though I just This shit don't I just can't. I can't. Was there a lot of gay sex going on in the women's prison? It was enough.

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Listen. What about the COs? They're getting down with all? You had CEOs getting down up and up and they got fired. Some of them got kids by the... Oh, boy. But like, the dopes thing is seeing two odd-ass people, like,

too odd-ass people get caught for fucking. Really? So you get an old lady in. a young, young lady, a young person. Oh, so they're like actually looking for this because they're trying to stop you from fucking. You're not supposed to be fucking in jail. Right.

I think, you know, a lot of guys get mad at me when I be talking about this, like, bitch talking about she had a ball up in there and she was up in there. Well, you tell me how you was fucking up in there. Right. You know what I'm saying? You're supposed to, you're a whole man. You're supposed to be listening to this.

This is supposed to be informative and information, well, informative and entertaining to you. You're trying to compare your jail stories with my jail stories. I guarantee you. you they want to say. Right. I guarantee you they want to say. I mean, how's the guy going to act like he knows what's going on in the women's prison?

And especially given that, I've heard stories from Florida prisons that are so unbelievably different than California or New York or whatever. Like, not to mention outside the United States, I mean, every prison is going to be different, right? Listen, I went to the hole. One of the reasons I got paroled is because I beat a bitch up. I beat out of shoes and shit. Why? Because she was talking crazy.

I don't like people. I don't, I have a funny. thing with noise. You know what I'm saying? I don't, like, you can't, I just feel like you can't say anything you want to me. You know what I'm saying? You just cannot say.

And this bitch, I don't know what type of cereal she had that morning or who told her this was the move, or this was the move. And that bitch came in their yard. And when I seen Mighty Mouse walking towards me, and I'm like, God, if this bitch come over here,

I'm knocking her Rockies. Rockies was the shoes we woke. Right. And I beat that bitch all her shit. She came talking to me about something that has nothing to do with her. That's one. When she said the first couple of sentences, I couldn't hear anymore. It was like warm, warm, I black out sometimes.

And when I came back, she was saying some shit like, well, I'm that bitch. And something was like, I got ready to walk away. You know what I'm saying? But how am I going to feel tonight when I lay down on my bunk knowing this ugly, path-faced mushroom-haired-ass bitch was talking to me crazy. Right. And so when I stepped, I turned back around and knocked that bitch off her feet. And I gave her the ass weapon her mother should have.

And that's what got me paroled. Because nobody could stand her. And I didn't even know that. Wait, that got you paroled? It got me paroded. Why would they lay you out for beating a bitch up? Because they hate her. They wanted you out.

They're like, you're our hero. You can go now. Listen, she accumulated, so she accumulated like 20 extra years for assaults on COs. 20 years? I remember when, you know, they got to take me to the hole. I'm fighting in the yard, so that's a riot area. That's 90 days in the fucking hole. So they take me to the hole.

So when I got to go up on charges, because you got to go in front of the board. So they can review this shit. When I walk up in there, they're like, what kind of coffee you want? I'm like, I don't drink coffee. They're like, you want donuts? I don't want anything. You know what I'm saying? Everybody, when I say I met every person in the whole prison,

I met every person in the whole prison. Right. And they was salute to you. And when I got out, the motherfuckers put me in the biggest sale. Wow. I had two trade orders.

I'm talking about my whole and the rest of my state was, they just gave me my way. If you knew that beating her up was going to get you all these privileges, you probably would have beat her up in the first place, even before she offended you.

No, I'm not, I'm just not going around beating motherfuckers up. I'm not the baddest bitch in the world. I'm not really all that violent anything but if I'm going to get two times as much food and I'm imagining that you're like not getting enough food in prison? I'm no it's a hole it's the hole um they give you it's the hole like when you in the hole you only get three meals that's it there's no extra no commissary whatever

they gave me two trade orders when I was in a hole okay you know what I'm saying they cut my time down in a hole they cut that shit down when I came out they put me exactly where I wanted to be and I was immune from like searches or whatever I forget I I wanted to ask about this. So you were on the run for how long before you went in? Ooh, I went on the run three times. Three times before that did? Yeah. Wow.

I turned myself in. I got tired of motherfuckers calling the police on me and doing other goofy ass shit. Yeah, because I was listening to you on this other interview describing how bad it is being on the run and how everybody just treats you like shit and how it just basically is like a life not worth living kind of thing. No, I want to say life not worth living. Well, not literally. You know what I'm saying?

But it's not one of those type of. Being on a run is very expensive. That's one. Right. You know what I'm saying? Two, when you're on a run and people know that you're pretty much at their mercy. Right. You know what I'm saying?

So motherfuckers are talk to you and treat you a kind of way they'll never do when you have money. You know what I'm saying? But since you need them, they want to try to get out and on you. You know what I'm saying? But it's like they probably was this way when you was up. You know what I'm saying? And doing your shit. But you got so much money, your money is loud.

Right. Money was silent. is bullshit. So you don't, you don't pay attention to that shit. You don't pay attention to all this little extra hating that shit. You don't pay attention to none of that.

You know what I'm saying? You too busy living your life. You know? And so, um, you got dudes. Mad because I don't want to fuck with them, calling the police on me. You got my fuck. What?

Oh my God. Listen. Girl turns you down for some busy so you call the cops. Now, now when I'm moving around regular in the world without these charges on me. You know what I'm saying?

You don't got the time of day. But now you want to approach me on some weird old shit because I'm on the run. Well, I can't protect you. You can't protect your fucking soul. You know what I'm saying? You can't even fight. And does this fuck shit up with your kids

because you can't really see them? Man, I've made a way to see my kids. Family dollar, pepies. You would just meet up with them at public places? Yep. Meet up with them at public places. Did they understand? Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. It must have been kind of weird. for them to know their mom's on the run though, right? My kids thought it was the shit. Really? I got my children not like me. I mean, because when I think about it, like doing 10 years, I mean, shit, being on the run

might suck, but if I get to avoid doing 10 years, yeah, shit. I mean, that does sound pretty good. I'm not fooling myself into thinking I could actually go on the run at this point of my life, but. I'm not going on nobody's, so I'm not doing shit. Everything I do at this point is legal, 150% legal. Good. That's what I'm saying.

I don't do no. I don't have to. You know what I'm saying? I told you I had to talk with God and I told God what I wanted to do and he has been making a way. I promise you he has been making a way for me to remain being who I am

without doing anything else. Right. He sit me down. He sit me still. You know what I'm saying? And he do everything else. I'm sitting right here with you. I'm sitting right here with you.

Where are? Like, no, I'm going to say this again. I'm sitting right here with you. Do you know how many people wish they could be sitting right here with you? They're going to love you, though. It's not for me. It's for them. Hey y'all.

I'm having a good time, but, you know, really, there's like, there's only one minute. There's going to be hundreds of thousands of them and we're going to fuck with it. But, okay, so when you finally get out, what year is that? I get out in 2018. 2018. So what do you do with your life? Oh, my fucking God. What did you've been thinking about doing that whole time?

And are you convinced that you need to go legal now? So when I get out, I get out on parole. You know what I'm saying? I had two years of parole. And so when I get out, I go to a halfway house because they wouldn't allow me to go to Philly or they wouldn't allow me to go to Chicago. So they put me in Pittsburgh. That's where I call these charges at. Now, I go to a halfway house and I'm talking about society just scares the fuck out of me.

You know what I'm saying? I was more scared of being free than I was being locked up. I kind of felt some type of way even leaving a jail, leaving the prison. You know what I'm saying? Like, damn, my friends are here. The best, some of the, the best people I've ever met in my life are in jail. The most creative people I've ever met in my life are in jail. Like the smartest people I've ever met in my life are in jail. And I know that's going to sound crazy to a civilian because they can't understand that.

But if you, in the Pennsylvania, SCI, Muncie, you got one of the top geniuses. This bitch is in jail. She's a genius. That sounds crazy To people like The bitch can't be that smart You have no clue You know

But so what I did I started working at Because I had to They made me work a job You know what I'm saying The pizza parlor We want to make sure You ain't stealing nobody shit

So I'll tell you I end up working a job At subway Subway in Pennsylvania Well in Pittsburgh And Shadyside And what I did was I turned the subway

Into like a little club At night time How many people were in the subway? way at this club um shit they used to come in it used to be it could be like 70 80 people in there the time how were you able to get away with this because i was the only person working the fucking shit because they wouldn't have no fucking body so if you're not going to hire nobody to help me i'm going to run this shit the way i want to okay so you just have 80 people there they come in

they come in and i'm assuming nobody's buying subs and no people are bad shit because here's the thing we closed that three o'clock so when people are leaving the club and shit they're coming over there Some people, I was a cute girl. I'm still in my cute one. Yes, you are. You know, people come up in there, want to kick it. I talk shit. I got the music on.

I got a playlist. I did a twerk contest, everything. Right. And we kicked it in that bitch. We kicked it. How long were you able to pull this off for? I never got in trouble for it. I never got in trouble for it.

That's amazing. Once again, I was the only person running that shift. You know what I'm saying? So I did what I wanted to do. So I quit there. I quit there because I had a stalker. Oh, boy, really? Oh, God.

I had a stalker. We'll talk about him later. But I quit there and I'll start working for the chick who owned that cell where I started working for her brother. Okay. And something in me, I got tired of this. I got tired of working for these people. I come in here Sunday through Sunday. You know what I'm saying?

Sometimes I'm here all fucking day. I had absolutely no life. They close in the middle of the night. You want to talk crazy to me. These ugly-ass customers want to talk crazy to me. You want to add like, this was the straw that broke the camel back. This bitch gave me a three-cent tip. And that's how I say you could keep it.

You know what I'm saying? And the manager, she, you're tripping. That's three-scent. What bitch you take it? Three cents. And I knew I was coming close to my parole. Like I did everything I was supposed to do up in that restaurant. You got motherfuckers want to set me up.

Everybody want to fight for the bottom. I don't give a fuck about this piece of shop. You want to argue with me about motherfucking pepperoni slices. and sausages or how many chicken wings or how many shrimp to put on the salad fuck y'all this ain't my shit you know

and insults to injury the owners used to come up in there you know what I'm saying and like I was a fucking circus act I think you were meant to be self-employed I am

yeah so I quit I took a um I took a I met this dude who introduced me to this dude who introduced me to this do and I had to talk with God. Let me tell you about God, I had to talk with God, I said, God, look,

this is not what I want to do. I'm not made for this. I'm not made to work for nobody. I'm saying? I say, I'm going to get myself six months. If something don't happen in six months, maybe that's the saying that I just need to work for somebody. It was on that last day of that six month.

And I get a phone call, I ran the phone call from this guy named AJ, you know what I'm saying, one of the modes in Chicago. And that's my family right there. I don't know. Um, but. You talk with PGF Nuck? I don't know who that is.

He's from over there. He's from over well. Motown. Oh. New Chicago rapper. I haven't lived in Chicago. You just tap in though. I'm gonna tap in just cause you said this.

Now my children, I'm pretty sure they know who that is. It's very aggressive. Oh, that's right to buy out. You got the craziest gun collection I've ever seen in a rap video. No, we won't. Hey, no. Um, but AJ give me a random call. people who have been checking up on me since

I had been so quiet. So, AJ calling and asks, he said, you need anything. I say, no, and hang up. Man, you're in my feelings. Because I'm still at this fucking job, and God ain't made no move. So something was like,

just call him back and tell him what you need. Now, this is random as fuck. I call him back. I say, yeah, I do need something. I said, I need a cameraman. I want to film this reality show. Because everybody I had hit up one doing shit. You know what I'm saying? My fuckers weren't even fucking with me, because I'm

fuck up in their eyes. You know what I'm saying? They just want me to finish parole. That's what they want me to do. So he introduced me to this cameraman next couple of weeks, me and him out filming. Next thing I know, I got Freeway Rick Ross. Next thing I know I quit their job.

So what, you just saw the vision and making content in general like in terms of doing the reality show? Because now you're doing the YouTube thing as well. It's like there's a lot of different ways to get your story out there. Well, how the YouTube thing came about with this particular. I was trying to tell my guy's story.

And I'm always talking to him about some jail shit. I'm always talking to him. I'm always talking to myself with the phone or some stuff like that, not to say I'm crazy, but whatever. And he was just like recorded. So I recorded it. And it just went. Right.

It worked. And so that's how the YouTube channel came about was just the idea to sort of film yourself having the kind of natural conversations you were going to have? Yep, because he didn't want to hear me talk. And you sort of started out with like a lot of the prison stuff. Did you find that that's what people wanted to hear you talk about? No, that's, um...

You just want to get the earlier parts of your life out there, like the easy stuff? I want to get the like the portion that bought me here and then go back. You know, so the prison story is long. I did, I did almost three years. Right. So that's long. Like, and that's recent. So I tell these stories and then I have something now called C-Hive, which is the membership stuff.

and that that's exclusive content about like the stripping and me fucking with the pastors and all this other stuff and a lot of people think there's a lot going on here yeah wow a lot of people be like man this can't be real and I'd be thinking like shit

you just don't know right but people like they censoring themselves or they don't remember like I'm 40 years old I've lived life I can remember getting my pamper change do you know how much shit you do in 40 years?

Yeah. You can remember getting your diaper changed? Yes. I remember who was changing it too. Maybe that's what happens if you don't smoke weed. You can remember being a baby because I can't remember shit. It's weird. I can remember like walking with the dog outside the gate and my mama yelling for me.

I'm in my pimples, no shoes on. Really? What's your vision? Like where do you see all this going for you? You've kind of realized that you have this power as a media personality and that's growing. But then you also seem like you're very capable of running like probably a lot of different kind of businesses and stuff. Yeah, I have a media marketing company. I do management.

Like I say, I manage some pretty big people. Right. But what I want to do, I want to make movies. I want to do this. And I want to make movies. Or I want to make a show. I want to show like BMF. Like I have so much content wrote and so much content in my head.

And then I just like talking. Definitely. I believe. What's it been like the past few months of like really trying to get this wave of attention and having like an actual fan base on YouTube? It's been crazy. I get way more love than I get hate. I have people pretending to be me.

Oh, wow. I have people that's pretending to have nude to me. You ain't got to pretend, motherfucker. I release nude calendars air year. New one come out of May. Really? Yes. Wow.

And I do good on them. Damn. I do good. Respect. I have a big following. I have a loyal following. It's a wonderful feeling. I never thought I'd be at this place.

Right. I mean, it's got to be pretty thrilling. Well, I thought I wrote Christmas down. I guess I didn't write any down. I already knew what I want to talk to about. Okay. I was checking to see if I had written anything down, but I guess I already had it all off the top.

Okay, so the calendars? I have an audiobook. I have an audiobook coming out. Right. And I have this short series on YouTube, like I said, it's for the members for the C-Hive. The C-Hive. Yes, it's called Random But True Stories of a Delusional Chick in a Hood. So that's kind of, you've come a long way from like memoirs of a bitch.

You've got a lot more descriptive with your title, right? Well, the random but true stories from a delusional chick in the hood is I don't think females like to admit how naive we are. You know? but it's okay to admit that you don't get it all right I'm saying it's okay to be it's okay not to be okay

you know like when I I was talking about today when I was younger what I thought a bad bitch was some shoes from pay less a wig from the beauty supply synthetic because that's all the money you got and a dress from rainbow that was a bad bitch in my head

you know so it's like people hate to admit it's like the first time you ride first time a female rider a dude having sex bitch you're not sexy you don't know what the fuck you do you like you're scoop you know it's like you don't know

you just don't know you know it's just random shit a few months ago me and my girl had a threesome of the girl where it was her first threesome and oh my God

like her like movements it was so cute I'm like oh my god you ain't even done this like you're I can feel the nervousness in her body fucking trippy

the shit just be it's like it's okay mom my guy told me, well, he was talking to other people, but he said something. He said, most of these dudes don't even know how they bitch eat. And I get a salad shit. Give me some chicken. I'm going to fuck it up.

You know, I'm dicking my fingers and everything. I'm comfortable in my own skin. Right. You know? And that's, it's like, I'm cool with it. I love it. It's a great story. So you're at a very happy, content place in your life?

I'm not content. I'm happy, but I'm not content. I want more. I want more. I can see my stuff on television, you know, like this. I love this. Yeah, you're really, really good at this. Like, my name is right there.

It is. My name is right there. Like, yo. That's amazing. Don't cover my shit up neither. Absolutely not. Don't you dare. This is going to go on the wall.

We're going to memorialize these walls once we're moving to our new space. So it'll be up there forever. I appreciate that. What are you getting out of your current relationship that, wasn't right about a lot of the other relationships that you were in. Stability, support, emotional support, understanding, love, like real love, like not fake love, like real love. Right. Like a motherfucker who I can wake up, hey, ain't going to be mad at me because I'm waking them up in the middle of the night.

Baby, you're okay. You know what I'm saying? And the sex is the shit. I have never. How'd you meet them? Damn. Really? After you got out?

After I got out. How long you been together? Almost two years. He definitely seems like he has a good sense of humor about some of your crazy stories since he's rolling on the floor laughing his ass off over there. Even at the somewhat nasty stories, I noticed that he's still laughing his ass off. That's the thing. He has never tried.

One of the biggest problems I have in relationships is I have a big personality. I got a lot of energy. It's like I'm a big kid. I'm goofy. I'm me. He's comfortable with allowing me to be me. I'm very strong will. I have a strong man. I can't run over him.

I can run over a lot of dudes. You know, I can run over a lot of dudes, a lot of people. I get a lot of butch energy, you know, you're just a bitch. You know what I'm saying? You can't handle me. I'm not for you. And that's okay. You know what I'm saying?

But don't try to attack me because I have my dude get at you. No. A lot of dudes try to change. They like the stuff that comes with me. me, the perks. A lot of perks come with me. They like that, but when they give me, they try to change who I am. You know, or don't talk like

that, or, is you looking at that nigga in the face? Like, what the fuck, you're not a pimp? You know? And he, that's not him. I can tell, he's really my best friend. You know what I'm saying? I can tell him every fucking, I'll talk about the craziest shit I can say. And he understands it because

he understands me. And it's not to be like, and I ask him some crazy shit, because I want to know. You know? I don't have to go nowhere else outside of my relationship to get comfort You know, I don't have to go outside my relationship To fad friendship And he was my friend first

You know, and I can't, I'm not gonna try to take away his men I'm not gonna try to make, that's the man You know, I don't run shit You know, a lot of women want to run a man And then complain about these men not being men Because you're trying to run them He's cool being a toddler Right.

You know? Well, it's good to hear. So, I mean, yeah, I don't know. I'm just very optimistic. I know you're still new on YouTube and everything, but it feels like you're going in the right direction. I hope this interview helps push that along further because definitely you have a lot to offer.

I appreciate you so much. And it's like I was coming. I was like, I wonder what I'm going to say. I wonder what he's going to say. Right. But it's like, I feel like home. We're at home. No, I mean, I see it, like I've seen so many of these, like, really kind of charismatic, like, prison YouTube guys pop off.

And it's like, I kind of see how, like, you're kind of using that as, like, a cheat code to get them to sort of pay attention. But I feel like you as, like, an overall podcaster, personality, whatever, you have a lot to offer. So I'm very, very optimistic about your potential. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I've been on a few people platform. Shout out to Banky Pound. Oh, I had them on, too.

16 of life. I've been on his platform. I did another platform. I did Veracity TV. Nice. And it's like, look, right now I have the fastest growing channel on YouTube. Wow. I'm about to hit 50,000 subs in three months.

You know, I'm doing a thousand subs a day. Wow. That is really good, yeah. I have a video. I think I got my first video that's about to hit a million. It's a short. I got, I have plenty of content. and I have a story to tell, you know?

And sometimes I could be all over the way because I got, you know, all over the place because I got a lot of energy. But the shit dope. Definitely. Can't take it away. It's dope. For sure.

Um, do you actually react to anything? Listen. My first three videos were a reaction video. Okay. I'm about to tell you this. I can say this now. I can say it. Okay.

So I did three, three reaction videos. and they were gone. You know what I'm saying? I had numbers. For a new YouTuber, I had decent numbers. So I had the production company from the TV network

reach out to me. And they offer me a couple, they offer me to be on a few shows. Then they come back, I turn down it, you know. So they come back and say, well, I want to find some money because I think you need your own show.

And it's like, okay, and my fuck still's tapping in. But I know, I know, like, anything I touch turns into goal. I know people like, what the fuck you mean? Anything I touch turns to go. I mean, I think, yeah, you should definitely pursue stuff like TV or, you know, bigger, bigger plays. But I also think you should really double down on your YouTube and go hard, making your content, look as good as possible, best quality audio, figure out, I don't know if you want to have other people that you're going to talk to on your channel, et cetera like because the TV shit is good as like a growth opportunity but it's like you could

really build like a business like if you have like a consistent podcast or show or however you want to structure it on your channel like that gives you a lot of leverage having your own platform yeah right now I got um I have people offering me different sponsorship packets and stuff like that listen some stuff you just got to turn down though you know what I'm saying Like what? I ain't trying to shit on nobody. It's this rose company. You know what I'm saying?

They keep trying to get at me to, to, what? I'm telling prison stories. Bitch, you're going to have a bouquet behind my head. You know what I'm saying? Am I going to put a bouquet of roses? Right. You can go to the dollar tree and get this shit. You know what I'm saying?

You want me to put this right here? Because they fuck with me. You want me to sell my people this shit right here. It won't know roses in prison. Right. You know what I have to tell them. I say, listen, I appreciate the opportunity, but not right now. Nothing I'm talking about got anything to do with that.

Yeah. Because it's weird. Like, on one hand, your audience will respect you just trying to get a bag because they kind of like senior come up and everything. But then at the same time, your audience will kind of think less of your voice if you're willing to promote things that you clearly don't give a fuck about. So you always are kind of trying to balance those two things. I'm not trying to balance. I just can't. No, I'm not trying to balance that.

Yeah. Because you know damn well. You know damn well. They ain't got nothing to do what I'm going, got going on. You know, I'm not a thirsty person for that type of shit. I'm just not thirsty for it. You know, everybody's like, yeah, I'm going to take this. I'm going to take this.

I'm getting everything. I'm turning the shit down. I'm going to turn some shit down. That's not right. Right. You can't come on my. I curse all day long. It feels good to me.

You know what I'm saying? It feels good to the core of me. So you're not going to come on my, my channel selling. Bibles. You know, so it just is what it is. They do brand deals for Bibles? I don't know, but I'm just saying. I don't think you should.

I don't think you should. Not over here. I was listening to somebody and they were talking about shooting somebody. They're like, I pulled out my Bible. I'm like, well, I never heard it like that. That's not pretty cool. It's like, what? I'm an outsider.

I appreciate you coming on so much. Hey, I appreciate you having me. This is like, shit, this is better than Oprah. You get a perk. You get a perk. Let's go. Everybody go subscribe to her channel. Please do.

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