No Jumper - The Ceraadi Interview

Episode Date: August 6, 2019

Ceraadi is a sister duo signed to Roc Nation. Originally from Cedar Rapids, the sisters made their way to Long Beach then South Central. They have been growing their social media following including their YouTube posting videos on fashion, beauty, music, and relationship advice videos. Their YouTube has amassed over 1.2 million subscribers. The sisters Saiyr and Emaza came through the No Jumper studios for their first interview with Adam22 to talk about how they got their start, YouTube, and much more! Get to know them. --- FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://spoti.fi/2vi9lsD CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper and iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 and follow us on Social Media: http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm follow Adam22 as well: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and follow adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And we're talking about our astrological signs. I'm a Sagittarius. I'll look at there. Okay. Y'all are cool. Does that mean anything to you in terms of how those interviews are going to go?

Very talkative. That's how you could do this podcast thing. No, definitely. I was just thinking about how I think Roland Weed on the podcast helps me because then when people start talking, I don't have to be 100% thinking about what they're saying to me. And it kind of like makes me focus on something else so that I'm not like a hundred percent thinking about what is happening in the interview at that moment. I'm not going to do that to you guys.

Okay, I was about to say that must have been a good interview. I feel like most people, like, smoking weed is very bad for the interview on average. I mean, I feel like you're kind of distracted. I feel like when people want to smoke, they want to be focused. Yeah, I think that energy drinks or coffee or alcohol all have good effects. Like, if somebody, like, drinks alcohol, they get a little bit more open. If somebody fucking drinks energy drink, they're more excited. whatever.

Weed just makes people kind of like get into their own head. Unless they're like a mega extreme weed smoker who isn't affected by it that much, which a lot of people these days are. You guys smoke weed, no? No. I don't even know where this can't. No, it's just funny because we just, you know, we know people are just seeing, you know, on interviews and stuff.

What type of smoker are you like, do you get in your head or? No, I just get like really laid back and chill. Like my girlfriend doesn't smoke weed, but she loves when I smoke weed because she said I just gets so much nicer and more laid back. Because she will forever think that I'm in a bad mood or that I'm like angry. But in reality, I'm just like being my normal, like serious self that is around when I'm not smoking. Oh, wow. Yes, Sagittarius can be really intense.

But you guys don't do it at all? Nah. That's good. Getting on for the vocals. That's smart. You do get a little raspy, I guess. I've probably used my voice a lot over the years. My girlfriend actually doesn't want to put me on to you guys.

Really? But she didn't even know about the music side of things. She was just like, oh, yeah, they're sick dancers, and I've watched their channel. Hey, shout out to your girl. What's her name? If you don't mind. Wow. Fire mommy.

Look, goals. I want somebody to rent me on a T-shirt. Right. I think she always has a good day when I wear the shirt. I think that, well, because we're moving, right? Or actually, she gave me this shirt like months ago because it's available on her website, learnouther the plug.com or whatever the hell it is. I don't know what it is.

But she gave it to me, and then I love it. lost it. Like, it was just like under a bunch of other shirts and I didn't see it. And now we're moving and I just re-found it. So now it's like, I have to have to wear it. It was kind of hurtful when it was missing the first time around, I think. That's cute. You guys got any merch I should be wearing? No, not yet. But when we do, we'll send them out. Of course. See, there you go. Did you bring stickers? I think I have stickers. I think I have stickers. I can definitely do a sticker. Okay. I'll give it to you. I mean, I have, I have Gwop Dad's a stupid bird with a with a du rag on the back of my phone right now. Oh, you know what our Sorati sticker would go

nice like on the instead of this well actually you could collage you can start a whole I'm super into that this the sticker collage is like a really underrated technique I feel like yeah it's fire my whole laptop is just nothing but stickers see there you go you guys ever did a skater boy yeah

I feel like that's such a skater boy thing I'm a really tight laptop sticker job I know I'm so sad because my laptop it was so covered but then I spilled a gallon of water on it and I had to get a new laptop. Or you break up with a skater and then you have to remove all of his sponsors.

Yeah, at that point, I'd be too lazy. I'm like, just just on it. Like a new computer? Yeah. That's tight. Okay, where are you? How do you guys meet? Like, where are you from exactly and how do you guys form? Well, we're sisters. Yeah. Oh, shit, I didn't even know that. That's crazy. Yeah, our mom's going. Yeah, she's pulling up any minute now. Your mom's coming? Yeah. She's our manager. Can we get her in here?

Yeah. She's down to be on camera? Yeah. She's down to be on camera? She's up to her. She's pretty open. Is she kind of, is she like, like in terms of her adaptation to social media, is it sometimes cringy or is she with it? No, she's with it. Yeah. Okay. She's with us things.

Really? Yeah. Like what? No, like, it's crazy. The way we started is that she was filming us on YouTube because originally from Iowa. And so it was, um, I was talking, I was talking somebody else from Iowa the other day, damn it. There's actually a lot of people from Iowa. Yeah.

We come in out. Like actors and, like musicians and stuff. Well, if you grow up in Iowa, you just want to get out so bad that you just have that passion from day one, right? I'm from New Hampshire, so I feel you. Okay, so we're on the other side of the country. Right, but, like, everybody, you know, wants to get out. That might be her right now. This might really be mom.

Mom reveal. Uh-oh. It's our mom. I see her shoes. Hey. Mom! How are you doing? You want to hop on, mom?

She said I'm good. Well, now I'm really interested to know what you guys' dad looks like. Oh, he's not in the picture. No. But yeah. But is your mother white? Yes. Filipino white.

See, there. go. Her dad's black. She was trying to pick out the mix. But it all started on YouTube. Our mom was filming us. We had a third sister that was in the group, but she didn't want to do any more different vision.

But when it was three of us, she would film us and just throw the videos on YouTube. So it was like a family kind of flip book or whatever. Starting at what age? We were like 6, 7, 11. And she was just kind of pushing you guys to like do creative stuff in general, the dance stuff, music stuff? What was it exactly? Whatever we were feeling.

It was just like, oh, we had a really. routine that's film I put on YouTube and really just catching you know a lot of people great audience and they really stick in like these people from the beginning are like you guys don't know sororati we watched them when they were young and they grew up they now have kids and it's crazy so there's some people that have like the mega long history of no one you guys are up to who just happen to be weirdos who are watching like 10 year olds on YouTube I mean I'm supposed to be speaking for like at least the females yeah yeah no we have a really big fan base but she was hip to just putting

this on YouTube having us post all the time and that's how we kind of just just got everyone, every time we go to an event. They're like, man, we keep on seeing y'all ever else because I'm out. I was like, y'all just post, post, post, post, plus. But even down to music and fashion and stuff like that, too. Right. So did you guys know, did you realize, like, what you were doing in that moment when you were young making that kind of stuff?

Because the other day, my friend showed me in this video, his four-year-old daughter, and she just straight up, like, set his phone up, press record, and was just like, hi, YouTubers, how you do it. Like, it was just so trippy for me to see that she fully, like, has watched enough of YouTube videos that she understands what it is to be a YouTuber and that was her first instinct as soon as she had a moment with his phone free. For us? We grew up around music, like family reunions, dancing and stuff like that.

So it's just like a natural calling. Right. It was like fun. It wasn't like, oh, we have to do this video so we can get views. I mean, now that's kind of like the thing. Right. People, like even her baby sister, like she's into watching YouTube videos and she'll set it up and her iPad and everything.

So it's a whole different ballgame for social media. Definitely. So you guys were just sort of doing the dance thing primarily on YouTube. That was how it all started, though? It was like dances and then we were doing YouTube covers and songs. And then when we moved out here in 2008, we were doing like school tours around L.A. And yeah, those, them schools was, it was hard to crack. But they was all messing with us. Yeah, no, we was, we was in there deep. But we were, people just were really messing with us. But you're leaving Iowa and you're going to some of the most gully schools in America just showing up and just being like, like, hey, let us entertain you. Or like, like, how'd that go over?

When you're coming from, like, the Midwest, you're kind of like open-minded. You don't know what to expect. You're just like, oh, yeah, I'm about to go perform not knowing what's really going to happen. Right. When we first moved out here, we got robbed by our neighbors. Like your house or really? Were you not locking your door because you're from Iowa? No, we locked it.

It's just like they knew the end. A little bit. They knew the ends and the house. Like, these were like, we were friends with their kids and like we went to, you know, Halloween trick-treating and, you know, They didn't really have much. We made, like, costumes for them. Like, really, we was playing on the Wii and, like, laptops.

So you really knew them and they were out there. Yeah. Yeah. And, like, people around the neighborhood were, like, yeah, snitches get stitches, but they did it. Really? Yeah. So you feel like you guys just were, like, we're not ready for the lifestyle out here? Or, like, how grimy people can be?

Yeah, we weren't. No, it was a makeup call. Yeah, L.A. is way different from Iowa. Where did you guys stay at when your first came out here? It was Long Beach. Yeah. It goes down in Long Beach, for sure. Yeah.

They cleaned it up now. Yeah. My friend was just got his car stolen in Long Beach, but then like I saw him. I'm like, man, how the hell they take your car? He's like, I'm going to be honest, too, I left the keys in the car. No, that's crazy because I got my car stolen recently. That's the thing in Long Beach. Is it?

Yeah. Car theft. Yeah. But I mean, it was just funny because like if you were to look at his Instagram story, you would think that he had like fully just gotten his car taken, that he wasn't at fall at all. And then as soon as I brought it up to him, he's like, yeah, I did leave the keys in there. Oh, that was pretty funny. That's crazy.

He would not admit that on his story. You guys still stay in Long Beach? Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Did you, like, upgrade the spot where you're staying out a little bit? Because there's definitely levels to Long Beach. I mean, yeah, we were in Long Beach for a little bit, and then we went to South Central, and that was way different.

So you guys are really just trying out all the hoods. Yeah. You're just trying to find a gang to let you in or something. We guys not out here searching for a game. Trying to find a home. I'm dead. All the lost girls of Long Beach. Oh, that has a nice ring to it.

I like that, though. That sounds good. Sarati is gone. No, the album is just called The Lost Girls of Blum and Iowa. Yeah, we'll figure out to make that work.

Right. Okay, so, but overall, that was the move. You guys came out here and just started to try to, like, figure it out in general and, like, the school tours was just part of it.

Yeah, like our mom, she's like, we didn't have her, we don't know where we would be. She, like, really just saw the vision and wanted something great for her children, so, you know.

She found the connects and plugs. Yeah. We got a story we needed to do. Like, whatever event, like, whether it was like taste of soul or just like a bunch of events, just throw us out there and perform. And it's not like, oh, she made it.

It's like this is something we wanted to do for a long time. Like, you know, college could have been an option, but, you know, performing is what we like to do. Whip us in the shape. But part of performing L.A., we also hopped on YouTube because, you know, go through music industry, bad deals and stuff like that. We were in a bad one.

Oh, you were in a bad deal? Yeah, so it was like a production deal. But we ended up waiting that out and actually just going to YouTube and actually getting a fan base. So we just, oops, sorry, hit a million on YouTube, hit a million on Instagram, like, last summer. And so that's kind of like part where your girl came up.

She's seen us, like, just everywhere. Right. Yeah, we had to escape to social media. That's crazy to think that you guys were grinding for that long. Yeah. You've been grinding for, like, 10 plus years, and it's just kind of finally starting to, like, really get where you feel like, you know, and it's obviously like you're still so much further to go.

But just to think that, like, even. and, you know, getting that million on YouTube or whatever, that's a big milestone. We just got our plaque, too. Really? It takes them like six months to send you the plaque, right? Right. How long it takes us, well?

Like a year. Yeah, it's crazy. The baby got his right away. Thanks, Susan. Susan, the CEO of YouTube, is evil, dude. She fucking has so much favorites. I was doing this for a long time. We actually, like, at 1.2 now,

so it was like 200,000 subscribers later. But, you know, we're happy that we got it, period. Yeah, it's an important milestone in every young girl's life. For real. If they make it to that level of society. It's a big goal. No, yeah, but by the time I got my million plaque, it was like they already had like a new million plaque.

Yeah. Right after like a way fresher one. And I'm like, what the fuck? Send this back. Give me the other way. Yeah, exactly. I'll send you guys like 30 bucks shipping. Just send me the new one.

Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Okay, so in terms of like, was there ever a moment where doing the sort of dance content on YouTube really started to hit off for like where it really went viral. Yeah, it was our lit playlist. Because we make a bunch of playlists that have different themes. Like get over your ex or twerking.

It doesn't matter. Playlists are big on YouTube in general. Like all those channels that just have the live stream of like the chill music to study to or whatever. You would see that? Yeah. But ours was like an actual visual. So on top of us. Yeah.

That's smart. And singing and rapping all that stuff. Like you're not going to make any money off ads, but you can just entertain people and go fan base through it. Exactly. That's tight. So with that, and then even on Instagram we were doing dance challenges, whether it was like

Sturr Five Migos, we did that at the top of the year, Booty, Black Youngstah, a lot of just L.A. Ratchet mixes and stuff like that. I was watching like some of you guys's compilations and different dance videos, and it feels like you guys got a lot of mileage out at the Blockboy dance. Oh, wait, the, oh, yeah.

It was hot. Like, especially with being on social media, you got to keep it, was new. So even like the wool. Yeah, the wall. The floss thing. I felt like you guys like that's kind of like the business that you're in is to be like ahead of the curve in terms of all that shit, right? Yeah.

You got to make it you though, too. Yeah. Yeah, that was tripping me out. You guys were like combining so many different things. I'm like, I'm just used to seeing like blah because I was always watching Blab Boy do that dance before it blew up and always was just thinking what the fuck is he doing? Like what is that? Did you ever do it one time? I'm going to be honest to you, no.

I've gone like this, but I see what they're doing with their things. feet and I think I could definitely put the two together, but it's just a certain point. I was a 35-year-old white guy that you're just like, maybe I want to just leave that alone, and let the kids have that. I feel like it's those moves, you know, where you rub your stomach

and tap the head at the same time. Yeah, where it just kind of looks crazy because you're doing two different motions. Yeah. That's crazy. That's actually really interesting. And I feel like NLE Chaba kind of took the crown for being like the craziest, like, young dancer

in terms of the rapper world, at least. Because he's really, like, athletic with it. Like, he extends his foot backwards so far sometimes. Yeah. It's crazy. Is that the key to the dance thing? Like, what is the key to, like, making those, the fans of that type of stuff love you? Yeah, that's the energy.

It's the energy and the swag behind it, making it, like, look cool. Like, you can have any dance move, but if you make it look fire. And make it look easy, too. Yeah. Like, everyone would be like, oh, they did it, I can do it. Are people looking for a lot of tutorials on that kind of stuff, or is it more about just people wanted to see you just be great. I think it's both. It's crazy because we just did our loyal music video out.

Now, make sure you all go watch it. We did more of like a choreography, choreographed dance, and they're like, we want to see you guys teach us how to do it, do a dance tutorial. So I don't know, maybe we just look really good doing it. Yeah. So people just want to learn it to do it. Were you always picturing that you would eventually start doing music videos? That can't be your first music video, right?

Oh, no, no, no, no. We've done other music videos, but, like, being signed to Rock Nation, that was our first debut. On the actual lot? Yeah, it was like a whole movie. That's super crazy. We had, like, the big gimbal rig camera and everything, so. Did you feel like a star? You feel like Beyonce for a minute?

Yeah. You know, you know, the music video, Bruno Mars and was it uptown funk? That's what it felt like. Or like Chris Brownie at three times because it was kind of like that vibe. I got you. Big production. We had extras and all that stuff. How did that conversation with Rock Nation start?

So we have the performances, and there was ANR, Earl Johnson, that was coming to those shows. And we always had to kept a relationship with him, but he was at Rostin Records. But when he moved over to Rock Nation, he was like, we'll have this opportunity. You guys want to go there and we're like, yeah. And so we had a showcase in the former president, Benny Pugh. We showcased for him, Omar Grant, and he just loved this. But we had recorded a couple of songs before, and Loyal was one of them. And so they instantly was rocking with that song.

So it was just, you know, being consistent in having something to offer. Like we had like a million followers then and like just had a fan base. So now it's just getting music. We write our own music. So it was like pretty much of a layup. But they just saw the vision was like, yeah, let's just sign up. You guys have always written your own music. You never had help in that regard?

We don't turn down writers, but for the most part, yeah. Like our whole EP that's coming out on the night. Make sure I go check it out. I think it's too because our content is different. Like we don't smoke or not smoke, write about that type of stuff. like partying and everything else like that or sex. Oh, so you guys are trying to be a little bit family-friendly in that sense? Yeah, because even with our YouTube, like, it's like ages from like seven to, you know,

grandmas be watching us and stuff like that. So we just want to keep our music for everybody. Not corny. You know, people are like, oh, you don't cash, you don't. That's kids, Bob, no, you could just make music for everybody. It's great for movie sinks. It's great for commercials, radio. It's a lot you can do with it than just be, you know.

Do you ever feel like that could hold you back? because when you look at a lot of the female rappers who have blown up over the past year or two, it's like, you got Cardi B, and Megan Stein. They're very explicit. I remember when Nikki Minaj used to rap, like, in her early days. She used to be rapping about getting her booty eating and shit. And then she actually stopped because she started to get, like,

the young girl fan base. And then she pulled back on that. And then it's kind of crazy to think that now, like, Megan Stein is huge. And she'll say that on any songs. She'll be like, motherfucker, eat my booty. And it's just weird to think that, like, rap has changed that much

in that short period of time. I feel like everybody has their own lane. And if we wanted to do that, we can always grow into that later on. Yeah. So we feel like the way we're going is just like we're creating longevity. So we start here. And if you want to, why as we mature, we'll get into not necessarily eat my booty, but like. That's a different level.

That's like the upper echelon, right? But you know, there's like, there's different music for every. There's different audience. There's like a billion people that are. Yeah. So some people want the content that we make. Yeah. A lot of people tell us it's like really refreshing here on music.

So that's really great to hear. Yeah. That's dope. Is it ever like a thing where you feel like it's weird having that separation between the image of yourself that you put out there through the music or through YouTube and then like your actual personal life, which I'm sure is messier and less clean cut than the image that you put out there sometimes? What you see is what you get with this.

I mean, we still listen to like make the stallion and stuff like that, but we're just like the... You cover your ears at the dirty parts? No. We like, you know, it's a real world. A lot of people experience a lot of things. even at a young age, whatever. But like for us, we live what we talk about. Like, we can't be not true to what we say because that's just either you can't

make it harder. Yeah. Plus we have, like, younger siblings. We want them to enjoy our stuff too. And then we just notice, too, like, you know how most people like, oh, I want to be perfect a role model. Like, we get it. Like, no one's perfect, but we are a role model to our fans.

So if we can lead them in a positive way or, like, give them confidence, strength, like, even with our fans, you know, there's girls. girls that had tumors or wouldn't commit suicide or like we're getting bad grades and we're able to like make them want to do better. Like recently we had a fan that passed away and she had a syndrome disease and you know she was going through treatment and now she's about to have her funeral but like she was coming to our events and and dancing to our music and doing the dance moves that we were doing and like giving her a reason to like want to live. Like most people that you know going through things they're just like effing I'm going just sit down but like for us to

give them something content-wise, like that makes us happy. Yeah. Mom's chiming in the back. Oh, yeah. Hi, Mom. No, but yeah, I think that that honestly is like kind of the value of YouTube

in a lot of ways is that when I think about it, like I was growing up watching, you know, saved by the bell, full house and all this shit. And it's like that's kind of what you're taking your life lessons from. But if you're like some young girl and you could look at you guys, I feel like that young girl could potentially be getting

a lot more, information about what their life is actually going to be like and what the actual concerns are. And, like, I think that's a big part of why people are so drawn to the YouTube thing. Yeah, it's realistic and relatable. Yeah. And it's just, you know, people can actually kind of learn from it and, like, live experiences to a certain extent before they have to actually go through those things themselves. When I think about all the things I got caught doing when I was a kid that I could have been

watching, like, crime tutorials on YouTube, like, not getting bust. did shoplifting because I would have watched a video and been like those black balls in the ceiling, those are cameras. They will catch you. Did you guys manage to like stay out of trouble throughout your earlier life when maybe all this stuff wasn't going so good? Or was there ever like rebellious phases where all of a sudden one of you was just like off doing some crazy shit?

Everybody has a time in their life where they rebel. That's a teenager thing. Exactly. That's actually why it seems crazy or like interested in me that you guys seem like you are still super tired of your mom, that you guys are still on the same mission that you've been with on for all these years because so many people would kind of like fall by the way side.

Oh yeah, of course. Like there's times you want to give up or you feel like, oh, I need to, I'm sacrificing my time. I want to be social and be, or be in a relationship, but our mom kind of like kept us, you know, in a, you know, zone. But even just for me, like, this is something I wanted to do for her. This is something that she wanted to do.

So we realized, oh, instead of going to these parties, I need to be in a studio, or I need to be rehearsing or, you know, But everyone has slip-ups and stuff like that. So I'm not going to say. But nothing too overwhelming. No, nothing crazy. You guys never been arrested?

No. But you know what's crazy? Then you're planning on it. No, no, no, no. Okay, it was 4th of July. And, you know, we were living in La Meech, but I had a friend that was from L.A. And my mom's like, you better take care of my girl or whatever because I'm freshman. This is L.A.

Come on now. So we go there and she's like, there's like later on in night. She's like, yeah, I don't know if I can take you home. And I'm like, you told my mom you could take me home. And like there's police because, you know, this is like Gardena area. And they're like, yeah, you guys have to clear out. And I'm like, I don't have a ride home. And so I didn't want my mom to drive up there.

And like, I had a pocket knife with me too. So like, I don't know if, you know, it was crazy. And so like, I don't want them to check me like, oh, she got something on her. So I gave it to my friend. And then they took me in the back of their cop car. I was like, oh, we're going to just take you to the station so your mom can come. But they put me in like a hold and cell. It was like weird.

And I'm just like, I was like, what, 15? And so I didn't get arrested, but I was waiting for my mom inside the jail. So I don't know if that counts. Sure, I saw a song about that. Yeah, I was in the penitentiary for like 15 minutes. That is traumatizing. I went to the jail overnight one night for like 24 hours. I was in the fucking holding cell in Manhattan because I was at a party and these girls that we were hanging out with were throwing bottles up the window and hitting cars on like the 15th story of an apartment in Manhattan.

And they ran up in there and I told all my friends like, And not, don't rat on them because if you rat on them, then, then, you know, your snitch, whatever. But they arrested every single one of us. They arrested like 12 people who are at this house. But yeah, I was thinking of that 24 hours, like probably the worst 24 hours in my life. Oh, you're a jee. A whole dick. He's like, free Adam 22.

The food was so bad that, like, that alone was the hardest. You know the stuff I had to eat? They give you ramen noodles? Not even. They're giving you, like, a sandwich. It's two pieces of white bread with, like, the tiniest little doth. dot of peanut butter in the middle and I'm just looking at it like I would never eat this that's torture right I mean I'm just not used to that shit I'm I'm living a relatively

comfortable life for a while now um okay so where do you guys sort of like like is it weird for you to to manage the the YouTuber thing as well as the musician thing has there been any kind of growing pains in terms of figuring out that because like some some people would say that you like can't do both at the same time yeah I mean we edit and film our stuff stuff. So like we went on a radio run. We were trying to, it was almost a month, but we were trying to like vlog and edit and throw it up at the same time while eating and making sure we have a bunch of energy and stuff. It's hard. It's not an easy job. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. No, definitely. Because like, I mean, if you, if you blow up, like, you can have, like, a team who fucking

does a lot of stuff for you and everything, but you guys are still kind of at that level where you kind of end up having to do a lot of shit yourself. Yeah. Because, like, I feel like when you have a team, Like if you're doing YouTube before you get your team, it's like you kind of know what works in your blueprint. So when you get a whole team, it's like, okay, are they going to, are you going to lose that it factor about you? So we like to be hands on, even with our music video, like we help edit and everything.

So we want to be dipped in and everything. But if when we get that team, it would be great, a great help. That's definitely the way to do it. Yeah. Because it's like, like, I've seen that before like rappers have called me and they've been editing their own video and I'm just like, holy fuck. Like, I know how to do that, but I never would have been a million years thought that you would know how to do it.

that but it's so important because then a lot of rappers just show up to the video shoot and they're not thinking about the actual final product but if you can envision it then you kind of understand what you're going for and you understand the shots that you're going for I feel like that could be really beneficial

what do you guys listen to aside from your own music? Everything. Yeah we were raised off a lot so whether it's like 80s rock or like 90s R&B to 2000s but like right now what's popping right now Oh my god

Sweetie megastelian Anything lit There's everything that's out right now Yeah But Yeah Yeah Drake just drop his his

Past hits compilation And I was like yo This is taking me back You put it on I didn't hear yet Oh it's amazing Oh really Yes I was confused because I thought it was all new songs And I posted on Twitter as if it was new songs

And I got a bunch of responses Like you fucking idiot It's so stupid We was listening to it on the way here, and I was like, man, this is great. Clossacks. Our stuff is on shuffle. Yeah. Definitely.

Is it hard for you guys to date, given the closeness and the unity and how hard you're working on the group? Yeah. It's hard. I mean, like, you know, everyone wants love and, you know, to be with another person. It's just finding somebody who doesn't want to, like, use you for clout or someone who can understand, like, hey, I'm busy too. Yeah.

It might not look real and official right now because I'm not in the line. like, but I'm working hard. It's gotta be so weird to be a girl with clout and have scumbag ass dudes trying to use you for it. That's so weird. It's bad enough that dudes are trying to use you for like sex and stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

No, that's horrible. That's horrible. What the fuck. Yeah, and I think about it too because like you guys are so tight that it's kind of like, if you were going to date someone, then the other one's got to fuck with them too. If they're going to be around them that much and then like for you to fuck with them, but then also not feel threatened by them. It's got to be like a whole thing.

No, we like bring, not the actual person, but like picture Instagram. Like, what do you think about this person? I got bad vibes from him. You know, it's funny too. Like, she'll be on the phone or I'll be on the phone and we'll press that person. Yeah, like, if you can handle my wrath and I can mess with you. Girls love doing that. They'll always like grab you, like the friend.

Like when the girl you're talking to isn't around, they'll grab you and be like, listen, I like you. But if you heard her, I will kill you. I've had that had to be so many times in my life. and I'm just listening to him like, listen, like, I probably ain't going to be talking to her in a week, so just chill. Like, this is not necessary energy right here. No, it's funny because we'll actually shoot on the person, and, like, that's where we really get them.

It's like, if you can handle me cracking jokes on you, whatever, and attack you a little bit, and then I rock with you. That makes sense to me. Yeah. Do you guys consider yourselves like the Claremont twins in any way? No. No, it's case. People think they were twins, though.

Right. And we actually met them, too. They're really sweet girls. Yeah, they love to party. I met them this summer. Free Shinnake. Right. Free of the scammer.

Number one. Because I've seen the other one at a party on Sunday and she's dating my friend. And all of a sudden I'm like, whoa, like I never have seen you doing anything besides being with your sister. So this is really fascinating to me. Oh, I can only imagine if one of us went to jail. Then the other one would have to find love right away, right? Or even like Citygirls like Young Miami really did that thing because y'all started together and then your homegirl left. Right when you have to like really take this stuff to another level apart.

I'm pretty sure people thought like she's not going to be able to. do it and she really did it so that is crazy free j t killed all her verses oh yeah putting out music it's like yeah oh that new record girl come on hey it's time to get it when they played i saw look at my jam i got to give my city girls research i ain't listening to that much besides that one song oh act up you can get snashed at yeah i'll listen to act up although i'll be honest with you i listen to it a totally different years after i learned yadi wrote it uh because it's kind of because he's talking about fucking with a scammer dude and i'm like that's so funny to me because Yadi was a scammer before he blew up as a rapper. Wow. Yeah, and like, so,

so him, like, writing that song for them where they're basically, like, talking about how much they loved the type of guy that Yadi was before he blew up as a rapper. It was just like hilarious. Because I'm just right about me. Exactly. Make sure you're a good writer when you experienced that. See? There you go. Came from the heart. You guys think you could write a song for a little Yadi, like, turn the tables? Heck yeah. I feel like we could write, we could write anything. Bar one. Yeah. You're just rapping about having read it. hair. Yeah.

Nah, yeah. I don't know. Eating corn dogs. I don't really know exactly like what, man. That would be hard. It would be hard to write a little yoddy verse. I'm not a lie. You just got to observe.

Yeah. Do your research. But I've been around him a whole shitload of times and all I ever really see is him eating pizza eating corn dogs. Just, that's all I ever notice. It's just like, man, you'd be eating some terrible food, bro. I don't know. If you hear me coughing and stuff, I'm a little under the weather.

Are you trying to hold your coffin? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like. Yeah, we're both for the sick. You line. You are a smoker coughing like that.

You guys have been partying? No. No. I think there's like a flu going around or something like that. In Long Beach? Yeah, probably in Long Beach. The Long Beach. I was going to bring some Lysol and some Palis Santos.

Honestly, this is not the cleanest room you've ever been in your life. So that's not the worst idea you ever heard. It's not bad, though. We've been in worse. It could be worse, but not that much worse. At least the old spot used to have roaches and shit. When I saw Houdrich Pablo Juan jump out of his chair because he saw a roach, that was when I knew. Not caught that on camera?

No, it was before the interview started. But also, I used to have my cat in the studio. Some rappers are scared of cats. That was one weird thing I realized. They're a little bit unpredictable. Yeah. Mine is the most predictable motherfucker on earth. But I feel that.

You guys don't have pets or anything? Yeah, we have two chinchillas and a French bulldog. Oh, there you go. Those aren't my pets. I have. So there is separation and ownership of the pets. Yes, but I will take care of, I'll clean up the poop for the dog. Only because I don't want to smell the poop.

And then, like, chinchillas, like, that's a whole other. A whole other world of poop. Just a whole other animal. It's a different. I don't know. I just can't really connect with it. It's a vibe. It's a vibe.

Yeah, for certain people. It's a dog shit vibe. You know, I felt so bad because I'm like, I'm touching their fur and I'm like, people were really killing chinchillas and wearing them on their backs. Wow. Does that make you feel different about wearing fur and leather and shit? Of course. No furs. Really? You're over there. That's cool.

Those are animals. Like, what if people were just taking people and taking their skin and wearing them on their backs? Yeah, but don't you think animals are really just there for us to use? No. No? We're supposed to live with them. Like, you're not going to get PETA after us. I'm honoring, when I eat an animal or I wear an animal, which I probably almost never do, because I'm wearing a lot of leather.

But if I were to, I feel like that's that animal's sacrifice to me. Like he's, you know, we're all part of this beautiful system of life. But in then reality, it's not like they caught this animal in a field or anything. It's like he was stuck in this terrible fucking torture chamber for his whole life. It's like, like, you guys said. I don't know if they even make, like, ethical leather, like, where the animal was killed in a certain way. Probably not. Your mind thinks.

Like, imagine you could go into the Gucci store and you could buy, like, one pair of shoes for 600 or you could buy the same pair of shoes for 900, but the animal was killed a little more ethical. way. It's like eggs caged free. Exactly. They have that in Gucci store. It would be so weird. Yeah, it would be weird. People probably be fed up. Like, this is too much thinking for me, Mitchie. I'm fed up, just thinking about it. So, have you guys ever actually met Rihanna? Are you still working on that? Oh, my God, working on that. We get closer and closer.

Really? The first time I actually seen her perform was at the Kendrick Lamar's toy drive. Yeah, I'm actually, she has a picture on her Instagram when she performed. There's someone on, I'm on her shoulders. your shoulders. Yeah, you're my shoulders. And I'm like up there. And I just circled where I am. So I was on Rihanna's Instagram. Wow. Yeah. But we're doing her Savage X-Fenty. So that's close. No, I've seen that. That's what's making me curious about it. We have photoshoot tomorrow. Really? That's crazy. That's going to be like, that's like a massive brand already. Like even though

it's brand new. It's still like gigantic. It is gigantic and that's not the only one. We have Forever 21 with K-Swiss on, it's going to be on Times Square like next week, I guess. That's like a brand type deal that you're doing? Yeah, we did like a whole campaign. That's sick. You haven't gone fashion nova yet? Oh, yeah. That's old school?

Yeah. It's not old school. Well, I'm just saying. But that was like our full, first when we did something with them first, but then we switched over fashion. Our major thing was like fashion nova. Yeah.

That's what's a. I'm on the fashion of the men's team. I totally, totally understand where you guys are coming from. Yeah. It is a gang. You know, I was just in London and that's like the home of pretty little thing. you see those fucking logos everywhere you go.

Really? Yeah, all the cabs have pretty little a thing. Like unicorns, right? What? There's unicorns? I didn't see any unicorns,

no. That's because we went to Coachella. Oh, okay. I thought that was like their thing, but I guess it's just the Coachella. They had a bunch of unicorns with their logo and stuff like that.

Oh, like that, okay, because for a second, I thought you were accusing them of really having unicorns and I was like, I don't think that's real.

Unicorns are real, though. Really? Yeah. You know, I went to a drag queen convention and there was a lot of unicorn and related merch and stuff. Like that's a whole thing for them,

which I don't understand at all. I'm not sure where that was coming from. They're mystical creatures. Majestic. That makes sense to me. And thank you guys for not asking me why I was at the drag queen convention. I thought about it,

but you know, we're just not going to get into it. Everybody likes what they like. Yeah, yeah, thank you. Thank you for being so reminded of my lifestyle. But no, in reality, I was just like, my friend was like, do you just want to go? It's like down the street.

And I was like, all right, fuck it, let's do it. I mean, every event should be open to everybody. One of my less popular vlogs, though, Seems like my fans didn't really want to see me go. What was the title? Something like I went to the drag queen convention. What was the thumbnail? Picture of me, big gay flag in the background or something like that, I forget.

Oh my God. It's actually my first day wearing fashion over for them. Really? And I was wearing all pink outfits. I was like, I kind of have to go just because I'm wearing the right fit right now. Yeah. Well, there you go. All right.

So what's you guys is plan going forward in terms of what you guys are going to drop? what the people should be excited for. Our EP's dropping August 9. Sorati's playlist, you feel me? Got to start at the origin where we came from. That's what you want to look for the name? Yes, Sarati's playlist. So it's a collection of five songs that have different moods,

you know, coming from our perspective or just our fans like females, whether it's uplifting, getting to the bag. Heartbroken. Yeah, just all types of stuff. Our favorite thing we like to say, you can twerk and cry at the same time. To our EP. You can. Yes.

There you go. That makes a lot of songs. I've definitely seen my girlfriend twerk and cry. See? It's a thing. Not the exact same time, but like within 10 minutes of each other. It could definitely go down. The emotional roller coaster is real.

People are like, is that a thing? Like our mom was even like, is that a thing? We're like, yeah. Like we went to Pandora and she was like, there was one of the reps there and she was like, yeah, I've Turk can cry before. Really? Yeah, it's a thing. That's crazy.

You're so hurt, but you're like, but you love the song. I remember the future used to have bars where you would be basically talking about like being in the club throwing money, holding back tears. Yeah, see. It's the same vibe, you know? You're at the height of your... Yeah. But you still got to let it out.

You still got to be a human. It's a whole bunch of emotions going together. So the EP got visuals falling after that. Merch. Yes, merch, which you will get. We'll send you a jumper. You need that. And hopefully like a college tour.

High school tour. Yeah. You guys still do the high schools, though. Oh, of course. You have to. That's where a lot of our fans are. Really? Middle school, college.

in high school. They're everywhere, but the most active, because you know, social media high school. Yeah. I remember when Blueface first came out and he was always having videos of him just going to college, going to high schools and just performing

on top of the car. And I was thinking, I'm like, man, that's smart because realistically it's like, that's where your diehard fan base is going to come from, you know? They're going to grow up with you too. Although I do remember a lot of musicians

coming to my schools when I was a kid and just not really making that much of an impression on me. But at least they have a chance. He did. Yeah. Well, hey, Serati, it was amazing having you guys on here. Thank you.

Very informative. It was a good conversation. And definitely go check their stuff out. Search them up on YouTube, Instagram, all that. Sarati. You guys can figure it out. Yeah. Serati, no jumper, coolest podcast in the world.

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