No Jumper - The CML Lavish D Interview: Beef, Issues with Adam22, Drakeo The Ruler Link Up & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 No, John Burke, coolest podcast on the world. Today we got the one and only CLM, lavish D, in the building. How you doing, man? I'm all good. I'm all good. I'm very interested in this interview all of a sudden because you came in, and I felt a little bit of animosity there. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:00:17 Nah, I ain't no animosity. I just, you know. It's been a long time. Let's talk about it. Started up. Started up. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like you put me in the bus.

Starting point is 00:00:30 of people that you think have essentially blacklisted you from the game. That's what I'm going to read into the vibe there as. Hey, man. No, it's that, but it ain't that, you know what I mean? But, I mean, it's that, though. Okay. You know, like, you know, like, I feel like you just, you just do interviews with people that I ain't cool with, and then you ask them about me,

Starting point is 00:00:55 and then you don't never, you know what I'm saying? They get to tell their side of the story, then you never reach out to me. And it been like that, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying every since me and Filty before me and Filty got cool, you know what I mean? Was Philly talking about you too? I didn't think about that one. Yeah, you know, a while back, we was back and forth, you know what I mean? But, you know, it's like you asked him about me.

Starting point is 00:01:13 Then you asked other people about me. I just be like, damn, when he's going to ask the boss about, you know what's going on? That's fair. Yeah, it's weird interviewing all these NorCal rappers because there's just such a complicated history of who they got issues with and they all got issues with you apparently. and it can be like for me I have to do like a study session to like remember oh right these this is this conflict and this isn't all this stuff so you know yeah I didn't even think about it like that that I guess we could put Mazi Ozzie Marcus and Filthy Rich all in the bucket of people who

Starting point is 00:01:47 have talked about Lavish D on the podcast and you haven't been up here yourself yet right right right that's fucked up huh? Filthy didn't really talk about me though he was just like I just feel like you asked him no no no honestly I never watched filthy like his interview with y'all before like until him and him and mazie fell out and then you asked him about me

Starting point is 00:02:11 but it wasn't what was cool then so let me take that back it was cool then the interview I'm talking about so if y'all did an interview before that I didn't see that I think we did one old ass one but I can't remember if we talked about too much drama

Starting point is 00:02:24 yeah I don't know but you're off the leash now huh you're allowed to say whatever you want Yeah, man, loud, man. So you've been out for like three years, but you weren't allowed to talk that whole time? Or how long were you up? Yeah, I was just couldn't talk, couldn't talk, couldn't travel, you know what I mean? Conditions, I was on ankle monitor.

Starting point is 00:02:42 Yep, ankle monitor and shit, you know, parole conditions, special conditions and shit like that, you know? Definitely. It seems like things are going good now, though. Things been going good, I just couldn't show the world, you know what I mean? Like, it been going good, I just couldn't, you know, like, I just was stuck in the box. Definitely. Yeah. I mean, it is kind of interesting because, like, recently I interviewed a couple of different, like, GD artists from Chicago,

Starting point is 00:03:08 and I'm just reading the comments, and everybody takes me doing an interview with these guys as, like, me trying to start some shit with Lil Dark and Chief Keefe and shit. And I'm like, y'all really got to, like, stop viewing interviews that way. Like, I'm not doing an interview, like, as a click-up way to get at the ops, whatever. I'm not like sitting in an interview saying like, oh man, this lavish D guy sounds like a real asshole. What's up with him? You know, that would be different. That's like you're taking sides. I'm not really in the business of doing that.

Starting point is 00:03:40 Nah, it ain't that. I don't look at it like that. You know, I just look at it like it's all business. That's all business, you know. So like it's always like that like whoever, whoever get an interview first, they're going to be like, oh, go do this, go do that, go that. I just feel like when you do. I just feel like when you ask about somebody, you should go ask the person you ask about it too,

Starting point is 00:04:02 you know what I mean? Then I just keep everything, you know what I mean? Because if we would have met on the, say if we'd have met outside of here, it probably would have been something else. You would have been upset. You get what I'm saying? Or my boys probably would have been upset.

Starting point is 00:04:13 You know what I mean? Then it would have been like, what's up? Then what we could have said? We don't have an interview, you know what I mean? You have been asking about me, so obviously you know who I am. And then that's just a, that's just an issue that could have been indebted by, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:04:25 You're reaching out to me. Just tap it in like, look, man, we want to hear your side of the story and blah, bam, bam, you know what I mean? But did you ever reach out to me? Because I kind of remember fans tweeting at me about it and maybe somebody sent me a screenshot where you had tagged me on Instagram saying that we're supposed to do the interview or something. But I don't remember you ever hit me up to this. I just just talk shit, you know what I mean? Like, and I'm going to say, like, at that time, I was on an ankle monitor, so I couldn't really move to though. So it was just like kind of like frustrating.

Starting point is 00:04:57 mean like so I should just get on just going rent sometimes like fuck everybody you know what I mean wouldn't no nothing personal though like I said it's all business wasn't nothing personal definitely so how's life right right now like like you're in a different state of mind or how are things going yeah I'm just working man trying to uh really like I'm just really just just working trying to put my team in position and uh honestly like shit easy you know what I'm I mean, like I got to do is just stay out. It's easy. Like, ain't nobody fucking with me. They can't fuck with me. I'm a giant. Right. Yeah, I'm saying. So it's like, it's easy. So all I got to do, like, well, what it takes them three years to do, I can do that in six months.

Starting point is 00:05:38 You know what I mean? So it's like, I just got to stay free basically and just stay doing my, stay doing me because I'm a little bit more advanced than a lot of people, though. And I just start taking it serious. So the more I take it serious, the more I get done, the more I get accomplished. Do you feel like your career was, kind of like sabotage to an extent because you ended up just having to do all this jail time in between and it's tough to like get hot then go away for three years and get hot again like back and forth like that it's really hard to sustain that yeah yeah it did but at the end of the day like

Starting point is 00:06:11 you know like me like I got my city though you know what I mean like I'm platinum in my city without the internet without the YouTube without the Instagram like I was somebody in the streets before any of that like I was having big houses a big car and had the streets on lock before it was in the internet shit, you know what I could show y'all what I was doing before Instagram, before anybody knew about YouTube, then y'all have been like, goddamn, you feel what I'm saying? Like, this boy was serious.

Starting point is 00:06:35 Like, so, like, it was easy, you know what I mean? It's easy. Like, all I had to do is really just get focused, you know what I mean? Like, switch up to people around me, you know what I'm saying? Like let them know, hey, look, this is what we're doing, this, what we ain't doing, it ain't doing, it ain't about friends no more. You dig it, I'm saying? It's either, hey, we family, feel me, this is business.

Starting point is 00:06:53 This is what we're doing. This is what we own. that's how we're going to get to it. And that's, that, that kind of like, it kind of like helps you out, like, when you separate the people around you, you know what I mean? Like, because I could be on some gangster shit, but if the people around me, if I got you around me,

Starting point is 00:07:08 like, hey, man, you feel, we doing this, we're on some positive shit, we got the podcast, then I got him around me. Like, oh, man, let's go load this gun. Now I can pick two. Like, look, I already loaded the gun before, man. I'm going to get on this podcast shit and, you know what I mean? So it's like, you just got to know how to really, like,

Starting point is 00:07:23 separate yourself and know what you want to do, you know? Like, you feel me, it is what it is. So once I got focused and it ain't no stopping me, bro. It's like now my career's in my hands. It's what I want to do. If I may, I know, like, if I can fuck up, I could do good. Just like, if I know if I can do good, I can fuck up. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:07:40 So it's like, it's all about what I want to do. But you spend most of your time in Texas at this point? Or what's the arrangement? I live in Texas, you feel, in Houston. But I'd be out there just like, like, when I'm hibernating. You know what I mean? Like just chilling. You feel me? Just out the way. Like when I want to get shit done and like, like, like because I got everything like far as the Northern California and shit though, you know what I mean? Like videos and spots to do videos, my hood and all of that shit though. You know what I mean? Like so I just be moving around. But that's where like where I live at, where I sleep at. Like I don't do nothing around there. But is that a tough decision? Because if I was in your perspective, I would totally, yeah, if I'm like from this fucking lit-ass city where I have all kinds of crazy shit, there's going to go down. I would love to be able to just go and have a place where I stay at that is way

Starting point is 00:08:27 less tension and drama and shit. But then, like, I mean, you kind of built a huge part of your identity of tension and drama. And I know how the people from where you're from are going to look at that. And it's like all of a sudden, like you just dipping out and living somewhere else is viewed very differently in your community, I'm guessing. But at the end of the day, like, I'm a different type of individual I just say no uh like I'm a big dog you know what I mean like I just say no nigga that just got put on the hood yesterday like everybody know like I've been going to jail and catching gun cases and doing dirt and all of those stupid shit you know what I'm grown now you know what I mean like so if you don't understand that

Starting point is 00:09:09 mean you young mind you got to do some growing within yourself you know what I'm saying because if I can do all this time in jail in prison and lose everything come home and get it all again on the ankle monitor there And obviously I'm doing something right. You need to follow me. But compare your state of mind when you're in SAC versus when you're in Texas. Like what makes you want to live in a different area? Or is it like, do you feel like more at peace when you're kind of in a more,

Starting point is 00:09:36 an area where not everybody is knowing who you are all the time? Honestly, bro. Like, I don't know if it's just like where I be at, but it's like everywhere I be at somebody knows who I am. You know what I mean? So it's like. If they don't know, they're going to figure it out, because it's going to be like, who the fuck is this dude with all the chains and tattoos? Exactly. And it's like, that shit be kind of like scary, though, because, like, I'm always paranoid.

Starting point is 00:10:02 Just, just me. It wasn't no drama. If it wasn't no beef, it wasn't no obs, just, just how my jewelry, my car, you know what I'm saying? Just, just me, period. I got money. And it's like, that just draws a certain kind of attention anyway. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I'm always, I'm not going to be the problem. rapper niggas on YouTube with my shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about giving them $20,000 for my chain back. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:10:27 Like, so that alone right there and keep my eyes open. It keep my eyes open. But for Sacramento, it's just like, I'm more comfortable in Sacramento, honestly. Really? You get what I'm saying? Because it's like, it's like when you're in the jungle,

Starting point is 00:10:40 you know what I mean? Like, you're in the jungle. You know the jungle. You know the jungle. But then when you go somewhere else and you're in the K, just like, damn, like what the fuck is this? You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:10:48 I'm used to the wild. You got what I'm saying? So if I'm in the jungle, I know how to move around. But if I'm in this cage, it's kind of like, it's like new to me. You kind of go, what I'm saying? But being in the jungle when you're a regular guy is one thing. Like, I loved living in the hood when I was a fucking random-ass person. And then now I couldn't even imagine it.

Starting point is 00:11:07 I got too many fucking eyeballs on me. I'm going to stand out like a sore thumb. I'm going to have so many more issues than a normal person would have. Yeah, that's right. But, like, I always being famous. Like, before the Internet, that's why. what I'm trying to say. Like, I always had the money. I always had cars, always had bitches. I always had shit. You know what I mean? So it's like, now to just more people

Starting point is 00:11:29 know who I am. Like, I always was popping. Like, I always was popping. You asked about Sacramento, you ask them, they're going to tell you about me. You dig it? I'm saying? I didn't find about , find out about nobody else to the internet. You know what I'm saying? So I always been famous, so it's like, but I know how to move also. Like, it ain't like, you go through the hood. You're going to see me watching the car in the driveway with other diamonds on him. Right. Right. Right. You know what I'm saying? We ain't fucking with it like that. Right.

Starting point is 00:11:53 Yeah, definitely. But are the cops a big part of why you wouldn't necessarily want to spend all your time there too? Because I could just imagine the cops probably got real hard on for you. Yeah, see, that's really the main thing. Like, that's the main thing. Like, I ain't worried about no niggas. You get what I'm saying? We got niggas for niggas, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:12:08 Like, I ain't worried about no niggas. I'd be worried about mainly the police because, like, when I go to jail is usually for something somebody else did. You get what I'm saying? Then by the time they come through looking for them or something. some, find something else. And it's like, damn, you get what I'm saying? I might just be there. So, and, you know, that's just how it be. You know, Rollers out there,

Starting point is 00:12:28 how this fuck, you know what I mean? I got a name. They think that I'm this motherfucking drug lord, kingpin, whatever the fuck they think. Just because I'm doing the music, though, you know what I mean? And they don't think, usually the nigga doing the music is the nigga that got to get a, you know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean? Like I say you interview with somebody and I think it was like Big U

Starting point is 00:12:50 or Nipsey or whatever, that little situation and it was more so like Big U was a nigga with the street cred. Not saying Nipsey didn't have a street cred though but I was like his big nigga it seemed like, you know what I'm saying? But like out there, it's like they're trying to live with me as the big nigga.

Starting point is 00:13:06 I'm like the big you rapping. You get what I'm saying? Like so that's a little different from a nigga that's just rapping than you got a nigga that's over you that's just somebody's like like I'm the nigger and I'm rapping so it's like that that's that much

Starting point is 00:13:18 harder now if I was just like a little homie from the hood then you got the older homies that's putting up the money for you and then it'd be a little different but due to the fact that I'm the niggins like then he the nigger and he ain't he rapping like oh no this we can't we can't let this happen like this but big year is 55 but this is what I'm saying though I'm just talking about far as like street credit though street credit and like known and shit like that versus nipsy like coming up in the game and trying to get on and you like okay we're gonna do it like this or whatever they situation I don't really know their situation

Starting point is 00:13:48 but I just know the streets and politics. You got what I'm saying? So, like, if I was just a nigga just rapping, say, instance, I'm the big homie. And I got two young niggas. I've been in the streets all my life. I know everything. Y'all from the hood, but y'all go to school,

Starting point is 00:14:01 y'all play sports or shit, but y'all got y'all can rap. I'm going to put this money up for y'all. Versus me just, I've been the nigger in jail, catching gun cases, shootouts, and now I'm trying to rap. And then I blew up off the rap. And it's like, hold on, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:14:15 It'd be kind of like a different feeling versus these. you're gonna get it's coming up and you're just putting the money behind them. You kind of get what I'm saying? I get what I'm saying for sure. But I mean, you're kind of hitting on like a funny thing about rap these days, which is that like at some point over the last few years, it's like the fans figured out that they really don't want to listen to non-gangsters

Starting point is 00:14:36 talk about street shit and that they really prefer to listen to people who are coming from a more authentic place. Like now at this point, and I'm sure there's tons of exceptions, but it's like now it feels like people are all. lot more eager to hear street shit from people who really actually you can kind of look it up and figure out they're for real right right right you're right but that that's what the shit get tricky at you know what I mean like everybody want to talk about the street shit and they on the niggins headbussy they look at you like they like like like you wrong you get what I'm saying

Starting point is 00:15:08 so it's like that shit get tricky bro like it's tricky so like I think that's why I stay relevant honestly because I'm a street nigga they know I'm certified street nigga a real certified real nigga though so it's like when you ask about me you're gonna hear about okay oh that's good when you hear about me it's like that's a real nigga you know what saying you hear about my ops and you just be like oh bro just be rapping you know what I'm talking about in the streets we ain't talking about the industry niggins that don't know them that met them off Instagram that they cousins now we're talking about when you come to the city or you meet some Sacramento niggas in New York and they'd be like what's

Starting point is 00:15:45 going on the sack oh you heard oh yeah lave it's dee you're real nigger what about the mother-in'all they just be rapping you know what I'm saying that's just like for mutual people you know I'm saying not just niggas from my side and shit like that so like I keep this gangster shit you feel me but just because I'm rapping this gangster shit don't mean I'm just out here with an AR-15 in my lap right now you know what I'm saying no shit like that it's just I've been through this shit I could talk about it out of been shot I'd have been to prison you know what I'm didn't do a lot of shit you dig it I'm saying so I can really talk about that shit but just because I'm talking about this shit don't mean I'm out here doing it right now

Starting point is 00:16:18 But doesn't it feel weird that, like, you, yes, have been in the field, done all this shit. So obviously people want to hear what you got to say on songs and shit. But like the dream is to be like the dude who's been in the streets. And then you get some young talent and you like manage them and help them with their career. And maybe they don't have to go through all the shit that you've gone through. But then you kind of know with the audience now that if you just find some kids who like have a relatively clean record that it's like people aren't going to really want to hear what they got to talk about. Yeah, absolutely right. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:16:47 And that's why I got them niggas over there, man. All them niggins from my hood, man. They all look like they've done some fucked up shit. So, yeah, I'm not questioning them. Yeah, I see. And they all got, and they all can rap, you know what I mean? They all be getting their little hundred thousand, a couple hundred thousand views and shit, you know, but like, it's just like, it's just like, you know what? It's just like, you got to want it more, though.

Starting point is 00:17:03 It's all about who wanted more. You know what I mean? I'm putting you in a position, you know what I'm saying? Like, I tell niggas all the time, man, come fuck with me. You ain't got to pay for nothing. Don't worry about it. Everything goes to me I'm going to pay for everything

Starting point is 00:17:12 We're going to be good You know what I mean But it's all about Who wanted more You get what I'm saying Because the nigga who wanted The most might be The nigga that ain't

Starting point is 00:17:19 You ain't nobody in the hood But you want it more than everybody But the nigga that got it That can Don't want it bad as you So it's like It kind of put me in a hard place

Starting point is 00:17:30 You dig it what I'm saying And that's why I don't know nobody hungry to me And I don't know nobody With longer And better street credit to me So I kind of like

Starting point is 00:17:38 Pushed myself Because I know my street credit, you know, hey, when I know I'm solid, I know what I'm going to do. You know, I ain't going to freeze up. So I push myself, then my little hummus, y'all niggas want to rap. All right, boom, this is what we want to do. And the whole reason I'm putting these niggas on because I know they struggle. I know what they've been through. I know what they up against every day. You got what I'm saying. But they got to want this shit, much as I want you to have it, you know what I'm saying? Like, shit, I can take you

Starting point is 00:18:04 shop and I can buy you chains. I can put you in cars and all of that. But, nigga, you got to want this shit. This shit ain't just no walking the parking. I had nobody doing that for me. I did the shit myself. For sure. But, okay, is there a degree of guilt? Like, if you make a diss song, or you're talking about some street shit in a song,

Starting point is 00:18:22 and then somebody comes and, you know, shoot somebody from your neighborhood or whatever, is there, like, what is that like emotionally for you when you're thinking, like, my song just made this situation hot for somebody who, you know, didn't necessarily want to be involved in that specifically. Like, how do you think about it?

Starting point is 00:18:40 That niggas shouldn't have been around, man. He shouldn't have been around, and my son ain't cause nothing, you know what I'm saying? You know, I'm saying? So before the disc song drop is going up and after the disc song drop is going up. You get what I'm saying? So like, that's why niggit and nigger don't come around if you ain't with it. You dig it, I'm saying that's just simple. That's just simple as that.

Starting point is 00:19:01 Like I'm not gonna have niggas around because I feel sorry for people. Like I know you ain't tough. You get them, I tell niggas all the time, let's take this up. Man, this life ain't for you, bro. You ain't even hard. You ain't built like that. My nigga, as soon as somebody comes through and knock your drawers off, your mama know, gonna be looking at us, really looking at me, because I'm the rapper.

Starting point is 00:19:17 You get what I'm saying? Now I gotta pay for your funeral, you know what I'm saying? You go to jail, now I gotta send your baby, mom, and the money and shit, you dig it, I'm saying? So it's like, I only want niggums around me that understand the dynamics of the street shit. You get what I'm saying? Like, look, it can go up at any given moment. It could go up by you just being in the car with niggas, you dig what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:19:35 So it's just certain protocol and certain shit that we don't do them. You don't, we don't go live. You know what I'm saying? Like, we ain't going to go live here. We ain't going to go live outside. We don't go live in Airbnbs because somebody else was in his Airbnb before us. You get what I'm saying? It's just, you don't post your cars.

Starting point is 00:19:49 I do. You know what I'm saying? I got nice cars doing. I don't get a fuck. But it just turns out to teach my young niggins. So when shit, before shit go up, you already know what can go up. It ain't got to be about no video. You dig it.

Starting point is 00:20:00 That shit, that might intensify and enhance shit to go up. And like, oh, a nigga just said, fuck. What's his name that just died? All right, we said that. We did that. We did that. You all know what time it is. You know, that's just like that, though.

Starting point is 00:20:13 But, like, for every action as a reaction, I'd just be reacting to niggas, man. I don't just wake up and just say, fuck your dead homies. I don't like talking about dead people. Nick, I got dead homies too. At the end of the day, you're trying to hurt me. Nick, I want to hurt you too. I know what to say to hurt you.

Starting point is 00:20:26 You know what I'm saying? But say, y'all lying. I'm telling the truth. That's crazy how that shit has become so popular now, shitting on people's dead homies. Y'all been doing that for a long-ass time. Man, you know, this shit's serious, man. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:20:39 kind of like us in Chicago and shit like that. I feel like Chicago probably kicked it off and I feel like we was the fastest one after that, you know what I mean? Because there'd be a lot of niggas. And the many people that get killed, honestly. The niggins who make these dead songs about these dead niggas and everybody know your mama live at.

Starting point is 00:20:59 Everybody know your baby mama with her red. They know they just go sit at her house. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, my niggas ain't dropping those songs getting stung right after. You get what I'm saying? song get smoked right after that. Nigger, you was in the way.

Starting point is 00:21:11 You was in the way for real. You get what I'm saying? I've been dropping dead songs and talking crazy the niggas my whole life. It's just, I know how to move. You know what I'm saying? And that's why I try to teach my homies how to move.

Starting point is 00:21:21 Like, look, bro, move like this, bro, because I hate, you feel me, you got yourself hurt over some other shit, but this song just came out so if somebody's going to knock your mustache off, they're going to say that it was over this song, but they don't know you out here robbing everybody. You, you know, and it ain't my place to go on there and tell everybody you was robbing people.

Starting point is 00:21:40 It just happened at the same time. You robbed somebody. He came back and killed you, but the song just dropped today. They're like, oh, man, niggas dropped the song. They don't. Boo-boo came over there and got killed. And it's just like, it's fucked up. But that didn't have nothing to do with the song.

Starting point is 00:21:54 Because the niggas that's with that shit ain't fin to get got on right when the song dropped. Right. Because they ain't in the way. It must be crazy for you just as somebody who's really been in the street since way before Instagram. and even if before Instagram, like early days of Instagram was nothing like the way it is now

Starting point is 00:22:10 where you can really figure out everything you need to know about somebody off Instagram. Like, if you have like a young kid who's like trying to be in the streets or whatever, these days, like you must have to put them through the craziest course of like this. You can't be doing this. You can't be doing that. Because all the shit that all the kids do now

Starting point is 00:22:26 is shit that is like 100% designed to get you fucking locked up, shot, etc. Exactly. And that's why I don't put niggas on my hood. I ain't put a nigga on the hood like in years. Like, like, I'm putting niggas under the hood. I put niggas on the record label, man, banked up.

Starting point is 00:22:42 Look, I like you, my nigger. You be with the homies. Hey, you kinda type, boop. Hey, I see something in you. Oh, yeah, I heard that song. Come on, man, y'all gonna fuck with me. That's my gang, nigga. If you wanna talk about a nigga,

Starting point is 00:22:51 I'm putting a nigga on, I'm banked up, man. We, nigga, we're rapping, bro. We're doing music. We're trying to get out the hill. We're trying to get out the jets, you know what I mean? Like, and y'all got talent. All y'all got to do is just follow my lead. Watch what I'm doing.

Starting point is 00:23:03 You get what I'm saying? That's why I brought my homies alone. They billed me for the last two, three days so they can really see. Like, nigga, this shit is serious. Nick, every day, I'm waking up. Nick, doing two, three videos, my nigga. Hold on.

Starting point is 00:23:13 Over here, over there, we got to be here at 8 o'clock. It's a schedule. Nigger, this ain't just no doing no video. Now we back in the house smoking weed and doing dope. No, nigga, this ain't that. Nigger, we're working. We're working.

Starting point is 00:23:25 But it must be hard for you to trust like the people around you at a certain point when you've seen so many people like snitch, turn weird, do stupid-ass shit that gets them caught up, that then also has negative repercussions for you, et cetera. Like, is it hard for you to trust? Like, you got like 10 dudes with you. I don't know how long you've known all of them

Starting point is 00:23:45 or how you feel like you necessarily have that relationship with him? Everybody right here, I knew them all for a long time. You know what I mean? I know them all for a long time. And if I didn't know him for a long time, my little homies over there, they vouch for them. You get what I'm saying? So I trust my little homie's judgment.

Starting point is 00:24:03 You get what I'm saying? So I trust these niggas with my life. I trust these niggas with everything in me. You get what I'm saying? When I was going to jail, you know what I was saying? Back in the day, I laid these niggas at my three-story condos, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:24:12 Like arcade rooms and let these niggas and my bensers and range robbers and shit like that. Let these niggas wear my jury, you know what I'm saying? For six, seven months at a time. You feel me? So I trust these nicks with everything. Ain't none of these niggas, ain't none of these niggas hos.

Starting point is 00:24:24 And they all going to get down when it's time. nothing either. You know what I'm saying? When you go do something, you wouldn't did that on your own. I didn't say take this AR-15 or this Glock and go kill somebody. I didn't say that. Nigger, y'all see what they doing over there? That's your business. You get what I'm saying? But that's why I probably ain't got caught up in no stupid shit or nobody ain't said that I sent them because I didn't send them.

Starting point is 00:24:46 Right. Nigger went on his own. You know what I'm saying? Straight up. So with that being said, like I just get my niggas the positive gang. Like, look, this one need to be done. This is what don't need to be done. And everything else, man. I ain't. send of them niggas on no missions because I know a lot of niggas you know what I'm saying you might think you can trust a nigga you feel I'm saying but hey when that pressure on and them folks talking about a hundred years and hey we don't even want you man we want to see him

Starting point is 00:25:09 him hell man we know he's the money man he the nigga with the money we want the money off the street we want that nigga take this all you i do it just tell man we're going to change your identity we're going to make your mama up out of here soft and ho-ass nigger gonna tell on that have you heard like your homies tell you that the cops were sitting there saying that shit to him. Man, I didn't hit, man. All type of shit, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, motherfuckers be trying to, you know, but I ain't doing nothing, you know? So like, niggins ain't telling on nothing. Nick's solid. You get what I'm saying? Like, we called our case, right? That shit in the mall back then, you know what I'm saying, on the nigger,

Starting point is 00:25:42 and a manager and shit or whatever happened. When all that shit was going on, like, it was like, then there 10 of us, you feel I'm saying? And my lawyer was like, bro, y'all you got the, you got the solidest boys. Like, nigg, it's 10 of y'all. I mean nobody told. Ain't nobody said nothing. Ain't nobody. They want your boys to say that you told them to do this.

Starting point is 00:25:59 None of your boys that make no statement. Nigger, you got the solidest team. He was like, ain't nobody catching no case out here with three or plus people when they ain't telling him. He's like, you got 10 people

Starting point is 00:26:08 on this motherfucking case, bro. Ain't nobody told, bro. He was like, keep them and your friends. That's why when I went to prison, you know what I'm saying? I took my time just so they wouldn't get my little homie life,

Starting point is 00:26:18 you feel, I'm saying? So, because he had three strikes. So I took my time because of that. But my lawyer told me out his own mouth, like, nigger, them your friends. So when I went to prison, I could have came home like, oh, I ain't fucking with these niggas. They didn't write me.

Starting point is 00:26:29 They didn't do this. No, they did something more special, you know what I'm saying? More treacherous, nigga, they didn't tell, you know what I'm saying? Because if they would have said that I sent them, then that's sending a hit. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's sending them to harm somebody. Right. That's serious.

Starting point is 00:26:43 You feel me? Okay, but you bring up an interesting question. Like, Kastanova just recently got locked up, and he had a couple of statements where he basically was pissed off because the jail that he's in. It's only like an hour from New York City, and he hasn't really had anybody come in and, like, they'll say free him on the story or whatever, but he ain't really had anybody visit him. And that, when I brought that up to a few of my homies, they were like, yeah, but when you get locked up, you shouldn't really be expecting people that visit you that much because, like, if you really know what's going on, that shit is so depressing, and obviously people have lives, like, coming to the prison and stuff. So how much do you expect from your team or anyone that is in your life in terms of, like, when you're locked up for a few years? Like, does them not visiting you bother you?

Starting point is 00:27:25 How do you feel about that? Man, look, man. Real-life shit, you know, I know what I signed up for you, you know what I'm saying? Like, the only person I feel like shit hold me down is my bitch. You feel like real nigga shit, you dig it what I'm saying? Like, I feel like my bitch should hold me down. I don't feel like no nigga owe me nothing. I don't call my niggas for nothing because I know my niggas in the streets.

Starting point is 00:27:43 You feel what I'm saying? That's why I can still come home and let these niggas the same way. Because I didn't go to jail with a chip on my shoulder. Like, oh, man, tell that nigga to do this. Man, look, my nigg's in the streets, man. You know what the fuck I want these niggas to come to jail for when they're doing the investigation for you. You get what I'm saying? That's just tying us together. These niggas know what's up.

Starting point is 00:27:59 You get what I'm saying? Same thing with me right now. Like I don't answer nobody calls from jail. And everybody know that. I don't talk on jail cars. I don't know when the last time I'm talking to jail car. I don't want to talk. There's nothing to talk about.

Starting point is 00:28:09 Is that because you think it's going to be recorded? I know it's recorded. But niggas don't know how to talk. These young niggas don't know how to talk. And mainly young niggas call. And you got a little bit. You got a little bit of a nigga need $1,000 for something. boop-n-nigger. Oh, somebody boop here.

Starting point is 00:28:22 I do that all through the month. You get what I'm saying? But I don't want to talk on the phone to know niggas that don't know how to talk because young niggas don't know how to talk first and foremost. And I'll be not checking niggas all day but telling niggas about their self all day.

Starting point is 00:28:38 Because I see them doing shit that I would have never did when I was young. You know what I'm saying? But the game changed. Like what? Like far as just talking. Talking amongst people. I always hear about young gangbangers like getting caught and then immediately snitching themselves to like an informant

Starting point is 00:28:52 while they're in custody. Like the cops plant these jailhouse snitches and they just like these dudes just fuck themselves over immediately. Because they're talking too much. I know why would you get locked up and just start telling everybody what happened? I tell, I just just telling my homies like, you feel me like

Starting point is 00:29:08 quit talking so much, bro. What's done is done. You ain't got to tell nobody when you slid and did this and whoever didn't make it or whatever the fuck going on. You feel what I'm saying? Like you won't have to talk about that. Like, nigga, that's done. Why is you in what you're trying to fit in. That's called trying to fit in and be accepted, bro. We don't do that.

Starting point is 00:29:24 And you're telling detail. Like, nigga, how, nigga, okay, if the motherfucker was to tell on you because he's your celly, like, how do he know detail? So you mean to tell me, you broke it down, who was all up in the car, what kind of car y'all was in, what's the lights are playing number, what street y'all turn right on, what street y'all turn left, and how y'all got on the freeway and where y'all put the guns? Nigger, you're crazy. Right.

Starting point is 00:29:44 We don't do that shit, you feel what I'm saying? That's talking too much. That's called self-control. You gotta have self-control about itself, bro. You feel what I'm saying? It's like, I bring my boys in here right now, right? Okay, just say this mic wasn't on and we're just in here chilling.

Starting point is 00:29:59 If you sit back and pay attention, you probably hear one of them to them just talking loud. I don't know why they're talking loud, but you hear them talking loud. Then until you got to talk to him, like, check this out, my nigga, you're talking too much. Talking too much, bro. Check this out, my nigga.

Starting point is 00:30:11 And how do we alleviate that? Look, check this out, bro. You ain't coming back around me, bro. You don't got no self-control, my nigga. Straight up, you're too comfortable. A nigga that smokes a weed with you, you're a nigga now you're all partners and now you're telling your motherfucking

Starting point is 00:30:21 life story to this nigga, bro. You don't know this, nigga, he just gave you this weed to soften your ass up and you feel for it. We don't do that. Nigger, be generous to you, that nigga, you watch. You know what I'm saying? So that's just what it is, you know?

Starting point is 00:30:35 I hear it for sure. So, okay, did you feel like when you put the Where's Waldo track out of the new one? Like, you were just waiting years to get that shit off your chest? I mean, because I don't want to, like, rehash the whole beef but I am interested at exactly what you would think when that

Starting point is 00:30:51 shit dropped. Honestly, my boy, nah, I just tired of being disrespectful bro, like I just sit back, like I'm not a nigga that, like I'm not going to go back and forth and tongue wrestle with a nigga because I know niggas ain't really like, Bill like that, Nickers ain't really like that,

Starting point is 00:31:09 bro. And it's like I just keep hearing niggas disrespect me, disrespect my homies, you feel. I'm saying, and just like, okay, my niggins got a voice, but they voice ain't big as mine. So these niggas just keep talking crazy, keep talking crazy, keep talking crazy. And it's like, I was stuck. I couldn't say shit.

Starting point is 00:31:28 So now it's like, you know what, bro? I got something for you. You know what I'm saying? Damn, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know, rest of peace, bris die, you know what I'm saying? You know, that shit was all over the internet. That shit was fucked up.

Starting point is 00:31:38 But niggas know, you know, I'm saying? He was probably next to go. You feel me? You feel me? And I didn't fuck with Brits every day. But I talk with him. But I talked to him on the phone. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:31:48 I knew him before he was rapping. And I was real familiar with him. When he died, you know what I'm saying? Them niggas was happy. You feel me? It was more like, it was more like, like, NB, hey. You get what I'm saying? It was like a race to see who could diss him the fastest.

Starting point is 00:32:02 Yeah, that was whole shit, though. You feel what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? But I mean, it is what it is. It got done. You know what I'm saying? It's about who did. It's about, it got done.

Starting point is 00:32:10 And I was telling that nigga, like, look, bro. You feel me? Like, when he got out of jail, I was told him. I don't know if you know how big you is, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, nigga, you gotta watch how you're moving, bro. Like, every time I see you, you always go live, bro. You're going live anywhere you at.

Starting point is 00:32:27 You're going live, show on where you're on, show him what car you in. Niggering, you're on ankle money like me. You ain't got no gun on you. You digger, I'm saying, or whatever. Like, you got to go on live, bro. You bigger than what you think. You bigger than what you know, my nigga.

Starting point is 00:32:42 Oh, man, these niggins ain't on shit, man. Fuck these nigg. I said, yeah, all right. Yeah, everybody ain't playing. You know what I'm saying? Nine times out of ten, the nigga that come get you is going to be a nigga that ain't, you know what I said? Got no bodies.

Starting point is 00:32:53 It's going to be a nigga that wanted to take a picture with you. Hey, let me get the picture with you, bro. Oh, man, hey, baby, hold this. And get on your ass, you know what I'm saying? Like, there ain't going to be no nigga that you with tattoos all over him because they know you're watching him. It's going to be the white boy over there, you know what I'm saying? With the hat, you know what I just got put on the hood yesterday.

Starting point is 00:33:09 Oh, they're putting white boys on? No, I'm just saying, though, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? It's going to be that nigga though that you don't watch. You feel me? Like, so, like, I'd be more cautious of other races. When niggas want to walk up, like, you know, no disrespect to nobody, but like Mexicans and, like, you walk up on me, six, seven deep.

Starting point is 00:33:27 Like, oh, let me get a picture. And I'm just with my bitch. Like, hold on, folks, I ain't taking no picture. I get aggressive. Nah. But isn't that, like, almost worse to get aggressive in that environment? Right, right. I'm not.

Starting point is 00:33:35 I get aggressive, like, press up on you. Like, just get aggressive. Like, hold on, no, no, we ain't doing that. Spinoff pushing. We're gone. Right. Only way, I'm gonna take a picture with five or six niggas. I got five or six niggas for me.

Starting point is 00:33:46 You get what I'm saying? I'm gonna, hey, baby, hold this. You hold that. All, come on. Oh, I'm gonna make sure my hands ain't empty and shit like that. You know what I mean? Because that's how it happened. Nigger want to get up on you and try to snatch your chains and just do anything.

Starting point is 00:33:57 You know, on the internet, niggas do anything to go to internet. I mean, go viral. Nigger'll kill you or a nigga, I'll catch a case just to say he did something to see a mail on camera. You get what I'm saying? Like, I can't let that happen. 100%. Yeah, they're dying to do that. Yeah, I can't let that happen, though.

Starting point is 00:34:11 Definitely. And I ain't going to let it happen. But it's like, I just feel, I feel for anybody in your position where it's like if you just, you probably feel comfortable if you're rolling around with a gun on you, but the stipulations of your prison shit or whatever, I'm pretty sure that's not really a great idea for you. But then at the same time, it's like, you know, the kind of guy that's going to roll around with a bunch of crazy ass six-nine security either. And it basically, it just kind of fucks you because it's like you're a walking lick if you don't have you or someone with you. prepared for the situation, then at the same time, you all get pulled over

Starting point is 00:34:43 is going to happen a certain kind of way. I mean, it's basically like you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, huh? Yeah, but it's just like you ain't got to always... I tell niggas all the time, bro.

Starting point is 00:34:58 I was on an ankle rider, no lot, bro. Three years. On GPS, I'm talking about the hottest nigga. I'm probably number one game member in Sacramento, you feel I'm saying? For sure. Facts.

Starting point is 00:35:09 Number one, you feel me, nobody bigger and the nigga famous so it's like I'm talking about active though like you feel me like and I ain't just saying active like I'm out here doing shit

Starting point is 00:35:20 but the police consider me active because I'm still around this motherfucker but it's like you don't have to have a gun on you bro I was on GPS ankle monitor police parole

Starting point is 00:35:32 anybody could have pull up on me any second you just got to know how to move you know you active you know you hot You know your face is known Why are you riding around here in the fishbow? Right

Starting point is 00:35:43 You know motherfucking well Knicks know your granny cup Man, it's your granny cup man You dig You get in the back seat Behind these tents You feel what I'm saying Maybe you drive

Starting point is 00:35:53 I'm sitting back I'm not trying to be seen Got my jury tucked in I'm just chilling You know what I'm saying It's a time in a place to be seen You know what I'm saying Now only time I need a gun on me

Starting point is 00:36:01 Or if you're back in the day If I'm doing something I ain't supposed to be doing I don't need no gun on me You feel I'm saying Because I'm with the I'm with the niggins with you on a fight, I'm with all that. I'm with that and it's what it is, but like I'm not putting myself in position

Starting point is 00:36:16 to need to use this gun. I'm not like, you get what I'm saying? Like, I don't need to be like, I know how to move, man, I know how to move. You feel whether I'm out of state, in state, in the hood, out of the hood, out of the hood, Hawaii, Miami, wherever, I know how to move, bro. And that's what I try to teach my niggas, how to move.

Starting point is 00:36:35 When niggas go to jail for guns, it's usually just joyriding with nowhere to go. and you just got a gun on you. You ain't got nowhere to go. You're riding around with a gun. You ain't got no stash part. You're asking for that. So often I hear a story of a rapper

Starting point is 00:36:48 talking about how he caught a case, and it's like, oh, they pulled me over and they saw the gun in the back seat. And I'm just like, you fucking retarded? Like, how could you possibly be just driving around like that? Like, that's crazy. That's because the nigga ain't been to do nothing, bro. He ain't, lo, look.

Starting point is 00:37:03 He ain't been in that situation before. He ain't been in that situation. So, of course, he got caught with the gun in the backseat because he tried to put the gun in the seat and it fell in the backseat on the floor.

Starting point is 00:37:13 Because I did that before with an ID and went to jail. I did that shit with an ID, man, on God, brous. I went to jail when I called my case. I had a fake ID and I had a real ID,

Starting point is 00:37:23 bro. The niggles from letting me in Alabama. And I went to tuck the ID, you see me, in the seat. And I'm not knowing that the seat just went

Starting point is 00:37:31 straight to the back seat, right? Straight on the floor. He's like, so can I search the car for guns? I'm like, there ain't no guns over here, sir? I get out.

Starting point is 00:37:37 I'm happy Nicket, nigga says, so who are you? I'm looking like, bro, I'm like, man, I don't know. You know what I said? And, you know, the nigga just went down, you feel me, just moving too quick. Yeah, no, I remember that story. That's a crazy one.

Starting point is 00:37:52 Moving too quick, bro. Maybe not to cut you off, though, can get like a napkin or something? Oh, yeah, you need a napkin? Josh, can we get a napkin? Michelle. How'd you become cool with Draco, where'd that come from?

Starting point is 00:38:07 Drake was my boy, man. you know, honestly, me and Draco, we was going to do some shit back then before he went to jail. We used to always tap in the shit back then, you feel me, because we used to always say we were the most hated out here on the West. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:38:22 We used to always say that, like, we're the most hated on the West Coast, you know what I mean? Like, always say that, like, we're the most hated, you feel me? Like, whatever situation is out here with all the rappers and whatever, and that's like my situation up there, you feel what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:38:35 It's like, niggots be, you know what I'm saying? You feel what I'm saying? And I'm only speaking for myself, though. Like, niggas be grouped up against me, and I guess he'd go through the same thing out here. But I was going to put him on the remix of one of my biggest songs at the time. It was that what else, you feel me? And I was like, I'm going to put him on this.

Starting point is 00:38:51 And we was talking to shit. And the niggas just went down and shit. And I'm just like, damn, you feel me? I want to say he had got out and then went back or some shit. You feel me? Or something that happened. And then they put him on trial for this murder that they weren't even saying that he did, but they were saying that he was, like, the driver,

Starting point is 00:39:05 and that he was the reason for it and shit. And he beats that. and they put him on trial again immediately after, which also his situation wouldn't even be anything if it wasn't for somebody basically talking to a jailout snitch too. Exactly, exactly. And that's exactly, that's crazy. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:39:21 It's crazy, yeah, but you know. And he didn't even really, the dude said, we were looking for somebody from this place. And the cops were able to use that to say, oh, Draco went to this party with the intention to murder this guy, this other L.A. rapper, even though that rapper was not at that party and wasn't supposed to be at the party,

Starting point is 00:39:38 but they had a jail recording of the one of the dudes who was in the car with them saying we were looking for this guy from this place that's it that's all they needed to be able to keep them locked up like three years that's crazy man that's that's crazy that's why you got to be cool that's why you got to be cool and that's why I think I'd be cool like like I do music I fuck with you but like I'm banked up you know what I'm saying my whole hood rap my whole hood rap and niggas tight you dig it I'm saying and if I need talent I know to find talent I could just go post up on Instagram, man. I'm looking to sign a new artist.

Starting point is 00:40:11 A white boy with tattooed, look like Adam 22. And they're going to tag niggins. Is that the dream? You're looking for a white boy? Nah, man. I just said, man. You drop an album right now. You're going to platinum, man.

Starting point is 00:40:22 You got to look. I don't know. I'm almost 40. I'm going to be kind of rough. You know what, Rick Ross, what, 58? How old is Rick Ross? Is he 58? Oh, good.

Starting point is 00:40:30 Oh, good. Oh, fuck. That's what I'm just playing Rick, bro. You know what I'm saying? Don't give me my boy. But to be fair, Draco, like he went and did that time and then came back. And now it's interesting because it feels like a lot of the people that really didn't want to acknowledge him before are actually being cool with him and actually like sort of like allowing him to be more of a regular rapper. Not like this mega hated rapper who sort of has issues with everybody and everybody's scared to have anything to do with them and shit.

Starting point is 00:40:59 Like, do you sort of want that for yourself over time to sort of be able to get past all the bullshit that's associated with your name? And I'm like, do you find it annoying that you don't really get to have conversations with people on interviews and shit without them like trying to ask you about all your beef and specific artists and shit? Hey, man, that's what I signed up for, I guess. You feel me? Like, it is what it is. I don't, hey, we having a conversation right now without having more talk about beef a little earlier. So, like, shit, come with it, nigga, you feel what I'm saying? It's like having a conversation with a porn star, feel without asking you, you feel me, about how she's doing porn.

Starting point is 00:41:34 Do you like it? You know what I'm saying? Like, shit. I guess that's fair. You know what I'm saying? If a porn star coming from here right now and she's talking about

Starting point is 00:41:42 she changed her life and go to church, Adam 22 still going to ask her to, so what was it like, though? Yeah. Before you change your life and she's going to look at you like, man,

Starting point is 00:41:49 I just said I'm a Christian now, you feel what I'm saying? It is what it is, though. Like, you feel me? Like, I know I signed up for this shit. You feel me? Like, I just do what I do, though. Like, one time I was interview

Starting point is 00:42:00 a porn star girl and she told me that she got a stomachache one time because she had to suck off eight dudes. in a porno and swallow all of it. Yeah. It's kind of hard for me to talk to her about like what's the last book you read

Starting point is 00:42:14 or like what's your favorite TV show when I know she got some shit like that. Yeah. Nice. That might be the extreme version of it, but you know. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm going to start some porn shit now, man.

Starting point is 00:42:28 Oh, man. You aren't only fans? It's all over. You need a manager. I'm in there, bro. Tap me in. Let me ask you this. What?

Starting point is 00:42:36 went through your head I know what went through my head this was crazy when I when you saw the video of homie with the two dead girls in his bed who at that oh oh Zie Marcus's brother I forget his name that was hot man I don't even know that dude you feel me like I didn't know him you feel me somebody somebody showed me that shit like honestly I thought there was them little them little dolls I thought there was them dogs that niggas be fucking the freaking niggas man what that dog the sex dolls yeah that's what I thought it was I swear it got I'm like, this a nigga on here, man.

Starting point is 00:43:07 This nigga ain't killed nobody, man. And then I just started seeing the shit anywhere. I'm like, that this nigga really killed somebody and shit? He was high, though. You feel what I'm saying? You could tell he was hard. He was high as a hell, yeah. But honestly, when I first seen this shit, I didn't believe it.

Starting point is 00:43:18 Like, I just, like, oh, this is a nigga lying. You feel anything? Like, my line. A nigga ain't did that. I know a nigga, you're active. You're a game. Remember? You know you get life, right?

Starting point is 00:43:27 Yeah, I said, you ain't did that for the show. But he did that, I guess. He did that and had a little 10-hour standoff with the cops afterwards, I guess. And there was kids, wasn't it? One of the girls was, like, 15, yeah. Yeah, well, I just, what made them even be over there with him? There's so many questions that we would, like, answered about that, yeah. Then he was said, his little, the other niggas said him up, his boy, his brother, right?

Starting point is 00:43:53 That was the thing that made it crazy is he kind of made his brother way more well-known just by blaming it on Ozzie the whole time in that video, just made it, like. He gets off that crystal. We wouldn't necessarily thought that, yeah, it had to be crystal, right? That was my read on it as well, right? Like, what drug makes you act like this? Yeah, he's off that crystal, man. That's that crystal for sure.

Starting point is 00:44:13 You've seen a lot of people go out like that over the years? I don't mean to fucking nobody off crystal, though. Like, I don't know, man. Look for the hood to do crystal. I said, I don't know nobody who do no crystal, bro. We ain't got no nigga to fucking no Chris. Like, it's different shit on our side. You know what I said.

Starting point is 00:44:28 Niggas sipped syrup, niggas pop perks, eat pills and shit like that. other side they smoke a crack crystal and fuck with you know what I'm sure other shit man we ain't fuck with no shit like that the drugs we do with the cool drugs yeah see y'all niggins over here 10 niggas in a band don't smoke and crank

Starting point is 00:44:44 right hold on man what the fuck going on man hey that's right here you don't got no junkies in your in your area like like what you mean though like like real full-blown dopeies yeah you don't got like crazy smokers on the street these niggins do the most drugs right here man that nigga with the white hat on man

Starting point is 00:44:59 that's my nigga right there man Yeah, nigga, he looked like a dopey? No, he's way too clean. Yeah, I'm saying? Yeah, man. He ain't been a dope being long enough if he is wrong. Yeah, I said, nah. If your shirt's still clean, you got, you ain't ready.

Starting point is 00:45:12 He's smoking weed, man, and you have said shit like that, though. But you feel, it don't get no stronger than that. We ain't fucking with it like that. You know what I'm saying? If a nigga is, he ain't in the circle, man. You feel, a nigga ain't fuck with that. Right, definitely. Okay, but so that happened.

Starting point is 00:45:26 And obviously, Uzi Marcus then did the no jump interview right after, had some shit to say about you. Yeah, I didn't watch that, but you know. It is what it is. One thing I know, bro, that my mom's going to say anything about me, man, because ain't none of these niggas fucking with me, bro. Like, like, none of these niggas ain't fucking with me, bro. Like, they know that.

Starting point is 00:45:45 You all that said? Like, they know that. I just did every thing I did, bro. I've been on ankle money. I was on ankle money for three years, bro. You feel what I'm saying? Like everything I got right now, nigga, I just now started being able to travel in August.

Starting point is 00:45:59 August, bro. Like, come on, I got a Rose Royce, I got a, nigga, two-door 550, I got a porch, nigga, you feel what I'm saying? I got hella diamonds, now I got houses, nigga, you feel what I'm saying? I got 11,000 in my pocket right now, all hundreds. Like, nigga, what you're talking about? You ain't talking about nothing.

Starting point is 00:46:16 You feel what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, real nigga shit. Like, I ain't worried about that shit, bro. Like, I know that niggas is going to say anything when they come to my name. Like, I don't get mad. Like, I don't read comments.

Starting point is 00:46:32 I don't argue on my bitch over reading comments. I don't do that shit. If you're reading comments, niggas, you're not ready to be successful, bro. If you're worried about what people talk about and say about you, you're not ready to be successful. Especially, like, I grew up with niggas hating on me, bro. I grew up fucking the baddest bitches in high school, the cheerleaders and shit like that. So it's like, I've been getting handed on since back then. Like, I ain't tripping, you feel me?

Starting point is 00:46:56 I know what comes with this shit. Niggas is going to hate And they're going to say anything To get motherfuckers to believe What they're saying They're going to put it on their mama They're going to put it on their dead Hommies even this shit didn't happen man

Starting point is 00:47:08 A woman lied about being married to me I swear to God, bro Married Married to me I knew a nigga from out of state And I just met him right Not right now but like a couple months back And I'm fucking with this nigga

Starting point is 00:47:18 He paid me for a first And he's like bro Yeah he's like man you know man I know your wife I said my wife I'm like my married like real wife He's like yeah I said man hell

Starting point is 00:47:28 No, he showed me bad ass bitch. This bitch was like Dominican. I'm like, damn, she's bad as fuck. He's like, yeah, she just said y'all married and shit. You feel me? I fuck with her home girl, you feel me. She's talking about you out of town on business. I said, you don't want me, CML.

Starting point is 00:47:41 Leverage D. He's like, yeah, watch this. He called her. He called her motherfucker phone. No, called her friend phone. She was with her. And she was like, what's up with, what you, what, we asked her, how much? You feel me, can I get a song with laugh?

Starting point is 00:47:53 But I'm right here. I'm right. I'm right, she was like, when he get back in town, when you get right to the house and the kids and just lied on me, bro. Like, I've never seen nothing like that in my life, bro. Like, really saying that she's married to me.

Starting point is 00:48:06 I swear to God, and she looked it good. Wow. You're like, I'll get in there. Like, tap me in. Like, you're going to lie about it. Right. I swear to God, bro, really says she was married to me. And she's going to hook him up with a verse

Starting point is 00:48:19 when I get back in town and with the kids. And I'm like, we got kids and all the type of shit. I said, that's crazy, bro. I don't really know this girl. That's bananas. I wonder what her motivation was. I wonder if she just liked the idea of being like a rapper's chick and she just wasn't there. So she decided she just wanted to sort of paint this picture.

Starting point is 00:48:37 Maybe she was involved in like an elaborate scam lie thing and that was just part of it. Man, I don't know what that bitch was. That's crazy though. Like when I seen that, like I've really seen that. So you talk about the rapper lavish tea. This is a song right here. Have you ever? Yeah, that's him.

Starting point is 00:48:55 Yeah. Like, that's crazy, bro. Like, niggins, like, once I seen that, I say anybody to say anything. And she's bad as fuck. Fake titties, fake ass, big house, all this shit. Like, he'd show me her Instagram and everything. Like, and I swear to God, and I'm like, bro, like,

Starting point is 00:49:12 that's crazy, bro. That's fucking great. I still call this nigga an interview on live, man. Y'all niggins think I'm live. I think I'm alive, bro. For real. Oh, my mama, bro. Niggas she was saying she's married to me, bro.

Starting point is 00:49:24 I've never ever been married. ever. I don't even think I've been in relationship over six days, bro. Really? No, I'm fucking what you know. That's the heartless guy right there. Okay, but there was another clip of said op of yours

Starting point is 00:49:40 that we just talked about where he said basically that Amazi was just not going to respond to you, etc. And I guess that's kind of been his position recently is that he hasn't been there. Yeah, a nigger is scared to reply to me, bro. That's what it is. Ain't nothing else, my nigga. Ain't nothing else, bro. You scared of me, bro.

Starting point is 00:49:56 He's scared of me. You think he just doesn't want to start it up again? He scared of me. You know that nigger's sample shit for their songs? Right. He's scared of me. Nah. That nigger, man.

Starting point is 00:50:08 Look, man. I ain't worried about, bro. I ain't tripping off, bro. You feel what I'm saying? But look, it's like this, bro. Use my name to get big, bro. Use my name to get big, bro. Google, it's all on Google up.

Starting point is 00:50:21 You got big by this and what to move, lavish DECM, or whatever the fuck, bro. So I don't want to hear all this. Oh, I don't want to diss him to blow him up way bigger than what he's getting and all this. I'll check this out, my nigga. If they know about you, they know about me. That's how I feel about it.

Starting point is 00:50:35 I'm just getting started, though. So your career is standstill right now. See, you need to do gimmick shit to stay relevant right now. Like, give YG chains and, you know what I'm trying to go viral and shit like that. I'm a street, nigga. You feel I'm saying? You got to do dick riding that shit to stay irrelevant, nigga. You got to be everybody friend, everybody's cousin,

Starting point is 00:50:54 and everybody's brother to stay liked and relevant. I ain't never met a nigga that cool, bro. You cool with everybody. Just everybody's your partner. Everybody's your friend. Everybody, like, you ain't got no issues with no one. I'm just, you know, that's the goal, right? No, no, no, no, no, it is.

Starting point is 00:51:10 But we street niggas. It's different for us. It's different for us, man. You're saying, you're a street nigger, bro, and you have no problems with anybody? I just don't understand it. But you caught a body in your last, six songs, you got 28 homicides.

Starting point is 00:51:27 You got a say, you shout up what's the name, Grandma, how I was on the last song. You did this. Like, niggis, man, look, I ain't even worried about that dude, man. I'm just rapping, I'm doing me, I'm focused, I ain't dissing him. I said what I had to say that where is Wado. You know what I said?

Starting point is 00:51:43 I hear my music everywhere, man. I don't hear niggas no more. When I first came home, I was hearing niggas music. I don't hear him no more. Isn't it kind of the goal of any like Norkel rapper right now or really any like street rapper in general to basically like you come out you're talking crazy ass shit about your neighborhood

Starting point is 00:52:00 and your ops or whatever and then at some point you're able to kind of transition out of that and have your music be more general and you don't have to necessarily be like involving all the street shit to just to get people to pay attention and from his perspective he's probably thinking like I don't want to necessarily

Starting point is 00:52:16 take shit to that extent right now listen man niggas no type of time I'm on check it out When Filty, when you niggas, when you fell out with Filty, nigga, or whatever situation, nigga, you dig it up saying, that Filty said something, you feel what I'm saying? Filty didn't even really say nothing. He was saying a little shit, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:52:36 You know, but towards him. But he didn't really say nothing. You wouldn't make a whole diss song about this, nigga, Filty. A whole disc song. You tagging him on Instagram, you're talking crazy. You do the challenge and all of this and all of that. You do all of this when you're diss a filthy rich. When they come to CML,

Starting point is 00:52:53 nigga, you don't say nothing because you know, nigga, I'm, nigga, you know. Like, I go back and back with you. You feel what I'm saying? I don't even, nigga, right. You feel what I'm saying? I think I probably wrote that, though,

Starting point is 00:53:04 but I don't write, nigga, like, I go in the studio and just make songs. Like, niggas be like, he's better than you, better than you. Check this out, nigga. I got more money than you, though. You feel what I'm saying,

Starting point is 00:53:11 and I'm freestyling this shit. You made a whole two disc songs to filthy. But when I come with this real shit, nigga and you don't want to reply oh no i don't man check it out man cut it out bro you got to just keep it real man the proof is in the pudding man the proof is in the pudding you just made two songs about this nigga we all on the same we all right here northern cali do do do you just diss him but when i say something to you nigga

Starting point is 00:53:43 come on man but do you think that's damaging him at a certain point if people start to view it as like damn you don't want to respond to lavish like that i i feel feel like now I'm thinking about it from your perspective. I'm like, damn, he kind of does have to at some point, huh? Yeah, listen, bro, you got to, bro. You just did, listen, that's how it started off. You understand? When I was

Starting point is 00:54:03 first into it, feel, me? That's my boy now. I fuck with him, you know? I fuck with, bro. When I first in tour with filthy, y'all made a line, so whatever the fuck y'all did, you know what I did? You know what I'm saying? Y'all did what y'all did. I ain't mad. But, nigga, that was all

Starting point is 00:54:20 connected. So, When y'all fall out, you diss him. Y'all, you been dissing me? Now, why would I come with this real shit? Because you got an answer to a lot. If you go listen to Where's Wardo, niggas, you got to answer to, I said a lot of shit, buddy. I said a lot of shit.

Starting point is 00:54:38 And people want answers. You ain't got no answers for them. So we're going to just act like, we don't even hear this. Now you got the other niggas, you feel me, you got the other niggas out here that ain't got nothing to do with the Sacramento shit in your ear. Like, they're your boss. big dogs and they're your big homies. Look, check this

Starting point is 00:54:54 out. You niggas ain't even from Sacramento, bro, so I don't go, fuck about your gang, fuck about your politics, fuck about what you stand on, blood or crib or nothing, nigga. You know what I'm saying? It is what it is. But at the end of the day, these niggas be having their nose in our business, though, bro, and that shit be

Starting point is 00:55:10 bunk, bro, like these niggas be having their nose in our business, and that shit just be weak as fuck. It's like, nigga, we don't run and go get no backup, bro. Nigel, we don't call the secondary, you know what I'm saying? Off the sideline, bro. These niggas be having friends and alliances and a hate campaign against a nigga, bro.

Starting point is 00:55:26 You feel what I'm saying? Like, I meet niggas all the time and they be like, oh, bro, you know, I wanted to work with you, but Wu said if I work with you that, he wasn't going to work with me, you know what I mean? I didn't know you at the time, so I just, you know, like, yeah, it's all good, bro, I know, that's what ho's do. That's what whole niggas do, though, you feel what I'm saying? That's what whole niggas do,

Starting point is 00:55:42 though, I ain't tripping off that shit, though. But, nigga, for sure, the songs I make be anthems, be anthems, and they be hits, and, you feel, I'm saying, like, I just dropped only one, song on video on World Star, you feel what I'm saying? Like two weeks ago or something like that. Before that, you'd never been on World Star. Never ever.

Starting point is 00:55:59 I told myself I ain't dropping on World Star until I get a deal, you feel what I'm saying? But I just got tired and I just dropped on World Star. You know what I'm saying? Like, shit like that. But yeah, I just, you know, I use my own platform, bro. I use my own platform. Like, I ain't got no celebrity friends posted me.

Starting point is 00:56:14 She ain't going to listen to it shit, nothing, my nigga. I did this shit my own. For sure. My own. Where's most of your money come from? Like, is it mostly streaming revenue? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:56:25 Yeah. Futures and shit. Like, features and shit. Like, features, man. The features do good. Yeah. No, for sure. What?

Starting point is 00:56:34 I can charge a nigga from anywhere from $1,000 to $25,000, bro. You feel what I'm saying? Who gets $25K and who gets $1,000? What you mean? How do we make this decision about who got to pay what? If a nigger got a deal, you feel me, in the label paying for this shit? Yeah, I'm going to, hey, man, you feel me? Look, check this out.

Starting point is 00:56:50 This is what I need. This is what I need. But if you're just a street nigga trying to come up, bro, you feel what I'm saying? You're trying to get them out. Pee, you, I see you send me some shit. Look at this out, bro. Give me $2,500. Give me $5,000.

Starting point is 00:57:01 And then on a good day, you feel what I'm saying? If I'd have spent $100,000 in a week, I go, I'd be going on this shit like I do $1,000 versus. I mean, like, look, I'm doing $1,000 versus for the next five days. And I rack up probably about $200,000. That's 200 versus. There you go. 200 verses, Jesus Christ.

Starting point is 00:57:21 That's a lot of work. You know what I'm saying? Like that's just how I grind. That's how I shine. You feel what I'm saying? I nigger won't hear from me for a week. I just did 200 verses. The fact that there's that many fucking people who want to be rappers that would cop, like that you could just sell 200 verses real quick in a in a week is like pretty incredible. Yeah, you feel I'm saying? It's incredible and it's crazy because not just it's 200 people that want to rap. That's 200 people that want to rap with me. They see the value in using your clout to basically, like, promote what they got going on. Man, I read this fucking amazing, old-ass nipsy tweet the other day.

Starting point is 00:58:03 If you're trying to rap but don't know what to rap about, that means your life ain't rapper worthy. Don't resort to lying. Just be a regular N-word. Yeah, it's real shit, man. That's pretty fucking spot on. There's about a billion people out there that could use that advice. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I need to wipe my nose, but I can uh, I can I uh, I can get up right?

Starting point is 00:58:25 Yeah, we'll edit it out or you can just do it over there if you want, yeah. But I need, huh? Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. You don't want to blow your nose on camera because it's a gang thing? Is this a thing? Oh, damn it. Hey, I can smoke a cigarette here? Yeah, what kind you get?

Starting point is 00:58:40 Yeah, man. Me and my boy, man. You see how we squashing shit off, man? I had different plans, man. Heck, I would go come here like sure. man. Let's hear it, man. That would have been tight.

Starting point is 00:58:59 That would have been really good content right there. Nah, you're going to sue a nigga, bro. No, no, no, no. We're going to do that. Yeah, you're active, though. I'm not going to say I'm active, but I'm saying that I'm around some people that if I were to sue a rapper, it would definitely probably change how they view me. Yeah, say, no, no.

Starting point is 00:59:13 We ain't fuck what you doing? He on security right there. No, he's chilling. But, no, definitely, like, there's people in my life that if I were to sue a rapper, they would probably, you know, you don't want to put you. yourself 100% in the white boy category right there and be like I'm gonna deal with my problems through the legal system I don't know that's kind of weird right?

Starting point is 00:59:35 I respect that but but you know but I don't really I don't really got issues like that um okay you had to blow your nose what you can't blow your nose on camera come on bro bro you disrespect to me there oh okay I don't know I'm I know it's a thing but I don't know that you like don't want to blow my nose I said I just want the white my shit, you feel what I'm saying? I don't like how that sound, right, right, right, right. But there's, there's always, like, different things that different people

Starting point is 01:00:02 from different gangs you just can't talk about. And I just always am getting reminded. Like, I got to be real careful with my crib friends when I'm talking about seafood. They just get offended all of a sudden out of the middle of nowhere. I'm serious. They'll be like, walking away from the table and shit when I'm ordering. I'm like, you guys are taking it too far when I can't order this. Or shit. Or shit. Or shit. Our gang

Starting point is 01:00:24 politics a little bit different man we ain't worried about our lab we're more like clicks you know what I'm saying like you know oh I know clicks and shit you know definitely but all right were you familiar with the kid block boy L.A. who was running around

Starting point is 01:00:37 he got killed out here yeah I'm crazy I heard about him when he died bro same and I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I went to watch the videos in him I thought he was playing he went to almost every like well a lot of the most craziest hoods in L.A. Talking crazy

Starting point is 01:00:50 and did the most disrespectful shit I could have imagined he went to a nigga grave you all right He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, there's an area where some kid got shot, ended up in a wheelchair. He's, like, pretending he's crippled in the middle of the intersection of shit. I was like, him getting killed is like the least surprising shit ever. But. I thought he was playing, honestly.

Starting point is 01:01:11 Oh, God. I thought he was like a blogger. I swear to God did. That shit blew my mind because in L.A., it always feels like the gang politics doesn't play out on the internet as much. Whereas in NorCal, it feels like it does, like, a lot. Yeah. This niggas be internet, that's what. Right.

Starting point is 01:01:27 Do you think, well, what I've said in the past, I want to know if you agree, is that I think it's because, you know, the gang-bang and shit in LA is a lot older. So there's a lot more OGs that might want to insert themselves and say, like, no, don't do this, don't do that. Whereas up north it's maybe a little bit younger. It's a little bit crazier. People are just used to doing this shit in music videos

Starting point is 01:01:44 and diss songs and whatnot. Yeah, right. But look at our side and look at the niggas we get into it with out there. You see less of our side on the internet. If you peep, you, if you peep, because they got me, you know what I'm saying, you know what I'm the homie? I'm the big homie, you digger up saying? Like, nigga, hold on, we ain't doing that, bro. Y'all said, them niggas wild over there, you feel what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:02:04 All the niggas can rap, all of them tight, too, you feel what I'm saying? Like, so when I be dissing niggas, I'll be dissing niggas. When nits dicks dicks, when I drop, when I drop that where's water, these niggas songs, little boo boo, tiny, tiny shit stain and drop one. Big shit hit just dropped one. You know what I'm saying? It's like, damn, man, my little homie's just chilling. You feel what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:02:24 Like, we ain't worried about that shit. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I just told me, it's chill out, man. I got this. Is there part of you that wants to respond to it every time somebody puts a narrative out there about you? Nah, I don't be really tripping, you feel what I'm saying? Like, like, niggins.

Starting point is 01:02:37 Because they be saying the most damaging shit to your reputation if people were to believe it. And you kind of, like, have to pick your spots about who you want to respond to, right? Nah, I just respond to what need to be responded to. You got what I'm saying? Like, if you know what I'm saying? Like, if you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:02:51 Like, if you know what I'm not. know like no that's not the case yeah I said that niggas certified out here boy certified step up right real nigga you feel I'm saying so it's just some shit just unbelievable like damn who will say this who will say something like this right I mean like nah I ain't tripping like that you know like half these niggins who be talking crazy really don't know me they kids mm they kids you know what I'm saying like niggas is talking bro you feel me like I said earlier that goes back to saying like niggas will say anything to get a response.

Starting point is 01:03:28 You feel me? You say anything to get a response from live. You feel? If you get CML to talk shit to you and all that, it's like nowadays it's like it used to be money that niggas wanted. Now there's attention. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:03:40 So it's like, just keep on talking. You feel what I'm saying? I ain't worried about it. When you run across me, all right, look, first of that, every time I go on live, it's a bunch of niggas up on there and fake pages dissing me. We're gonna take this, we're gonna do this, we do this.

Starting point is 01:03:53 Look, I always got this shit on, bro. I always got this shit on. This is a couple hundred right here, you feel me? I always got this shit on, you feel me. Always got money in my pocket. Why ain't nobody robbed me? Why ain't nobody did nothing to me? Why ain't nobody took nothing off me?

Starting point is 01:04:05 Why ain't my chains floating around here? Why ain't no banked up niggas getting robbed? Like, if we that much bitch made, if we that much bitch made, why ain't nothing getting took off of us? You feel me? Y'all got all these pages saying this. We're that much of a bitch. I was just an ankle monitor.

Starting point is 01:04:21 I was on ankle monitor for three years, they get in Sacramento. South Sacramento, North Sacramento, all through Sacramento, bro. I did a whole motherfucking tour, Northern Cali tour, shows in Oakland. I'm going to places that y'all are saying,

Starting point is 01:04:35 I can't go wherever the fuck I'm going, and I'm doing what I'm doing, and ain't nobody did nothing to me. And nobody took it off me. Ain't nobody, like, because the proof is in the pudding right there, man, these niggas talking. They're just talking.

Starting point is 01:04:47 Real niggas shit, they're talking, bro, you feel you what I'm saying? Like, I don't even see my ops, That's only where I see them as the internet. You feel right in their mouth, talking. You feel what I'm saying? Like, nigga, I ain't worried about that shit, bro. I'm just getting money.

Starting point is 01:04:59 Fucking with my bitch. Fucking with my little homie's trying to put my niggas on with this music shit. And we ain't even worried about nobody else. So are you paranoid about meeting up with random-ass girls off the internet ever since apparently a couple of them got you set up? I think the hos gotta be set up. Yeah, the bitch's got to be pop, babe. That shit has me tripping because that's like, I got a girl like, right,

Starting point is 01:05:21 as I started to get well known for like five years. And I just hear about all this crazy-ass shit that girls be doing the fucking dudes once they get something. And I'm just like, oh my God, I cannot believe. Like, I was really like fucking different girls every night when I was a random-ass broke dude. I can't even imagine.

Starting point is 01:05:38 I never had to deal with the pressure of like me having something to lose to them. Yeah, man. That shit is serious, bro. Like right now, I think, honestly, I think every bitch should be looking for a come up, bro. Because they're getting too smart. They listen to City Girls.

Starting point is 01:05:49 They start getting all these crazy. as ideas, bro. Exactly. They listen to them to them, but they ain't going to get them nowhere but fucked up, though, you feel what I'm saying? Like, you got to know who to play with. You feel what I'm saying? Like, you don't play with nigg that's going to bust your

Starting point is 01:06:01 motherfucking wig. You feel me, bitch. You don't try to come rob me. You don't, like, like, for example, like, I don't be around rappers like that. You feel me? Like, I don't really know no rappers. Like, all the rappers I know is street niggas, like, hoodniggas, you feel

Starting point is 01:06:16 me? But, like, we travel all this time. We're going to get nice Airbnbs. it just be us. If you got a girl, you bring her with you. We're not doing no, oh, we got the Airbnb out here come pull up, no, that's not what we're doing. You got what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:06:33 It's like, we do rappers that don't do that shit. We got bitches in real life, bro. We ain't, we ain't just start having bitches with the fame, you feel what I'm saying? That's how niggas be getting robbed. That's how niggas shit getting took. That's how the bitches leave and there's some niggas come invade you.

Starting point is 01:06:47 You feel? Because y'all just start having bitches. when y'all started getting a little over the fame and shit, you know? So, like, we don't, we're not the rappers that, now that we got some fame, we post it there where we go, and the bitch is pulling up on us and kicking it, and we're chilling, and we fucking on bitches.

Starting point is 01:07:04 No, you know what I'm saying? We got shit to lose, you feel me? Like, and we ain't no horny-ass niggas like that. You feel me? You feel like me? You know what I'm saying? Like, we go out of town, we work, you feel what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:07:13 I'd be working. Like, I don't have bitches in the studio with me. I have my bitch with me. You got what I'm saying? Like, video shoots, I have my bitches with me. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like some shit like that. Like, we ain't really like worried about too pressed about no bitches.

Starting point is 01:07:26 And because everybody fuck with everybody. Like I don't fuck with bitches that fuck with some of the biggest rappers in the industry. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm having the same thing as y'all having. You probably got more than me, but I got the same things. I got a rose rush too. I got diamonds too. I got diamonds in my mouth too.

Starting point is 01:07:42 I got money too. Yeah, I can buy you that bag too. Right. I can fly you up too. I got my own house too. I wear all designer shit too. So it's like, we all happen to say shit

Starting point is 01:07:52 you might have a little more than me though but a bitch don't care about that right bitch don't care about that that nigga got diamonds on too he got a rose rush too he got his own house too so it's like everybody dealing with the same bitches I don't want to deal with the bitches

Starting point is 01:08:05 that everybody dealing with I take a regular average bitch and I turn her up to a looking like a star yeah like if a girl is trying to get a you and she's fucked 20 very well-known rappers before does that make you a little less interested. I don't talk to bitches that try to get at me. You know what I'm saying? Like I gotta get at

Starting point is 01:08:24 chew. Like it'd be a gang of bitches in my DM, you know what I'm saying? Like, I gotta really like kind of like I gotta get at chew. I gotta see something I like with chew. I like foreign bitches, you know what I'm saying? I like foreign bitches and I got to get at chew. Like, you know, like the bitches I get at, it's like more than likely they ain't trying to set me up. Foreign? So like you like a girl who doesn't know anybody from your neighborhood or doesn't know anything that's going on in your private street life? Foreign and foreign. I wasn't sure she was your agent or love affair. That's my, that's my, it's my wardie right there, man.

Starting point is 01:08:59 Right. She ain't trying to set a nigga up. Right. You know what I'm saying? She ain't trying to set me up. You feel me? She ain't trying to make sure I got everything I need. You got trust issues, huh?

Starting point is 01:09:09 Of course. Yeah, I said, I didn't have been shot. I didn't have been stabbed in my face. You feel me? I don't lost homies I love and never get them back. I didn't see niggas get life. See the niggas die. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:09:19 How often you find yourself thinking about prison and how fucking miserable all that was? Because you did a bunch of solitary in there, too, right? Yeah, yeah. Every time I go to jail, I got to go to the hole. So they don't really lay you around everybody else like it's some regular shit? No, that's why I think I'm so strong. That's why I think my mind's so strong, like, because when I do go to jail, you feel me, I go straight to the hole.

Starting point is 01:09:40 You got that in common with Draco, too, because they had them in that shit for a long-ass time, too. Yeah, you feel me, like fighting my whole case. And it's a tactic also for a negative. take some time. Because they'll make you go crazy, right? Like, do you feel like it has a real, like, do you still, like, see how it damaged you? I had nightmares at night, bro. Right. I have nightmares and shit, like, and obviously leave with my bitch or something, and I just be hugging there. She'd be like, why are you crying? I'm crying. I'm like, I'm crying. I'm like, that's blood in my eyes. You feel me? Like, I don't cry. You feel me? I bleed. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like,

Starting point is 01:10:15 like, like, for real. Like, I'll be having nightmares and shit, like, honestly. Not about jail, like getting raped in a weird shit. I said, it's like, it's like, I just, you know, a nigga than been through so much shit, every time I close my eyes and shit, you feel what I'm saying? Like if I've been up for a long time and then I go to sleep, I go to deep sleep. So I just be like, I just wake up to getting shook

Starting point is 01:10:39 or something like, baby, daddy, you're all right, you good? Like, I just, like, and sometimes I don't even wake up. I just, like, I can't wake up. I just feel myself like crying. I don't know if you understand. you understand what I feel it but you don't even get to get any of the the fun shit in jail right like just hanging out with a bunch of crazy ass dudes and shit like they have you in solitary like the whole time so you can't even really be kicking it with because i feel like normally yeah jail's

Starting point is 01:11:05 dangerous as fucking it's super stressful but it's probably a lot of people you know in there so at least it's like enjoyable from that way socially yeah like like my county jail is where i'm solitary confinement you feel like 23 hours 30 minutes a day like in my cell by my cell by my myself you feel me I was fighting my case for 19 months I think so just think about that just in a seal 23 hours 30 minutes a day for 19 months not knowing I almost time you for the good that's crazy right sober yeah sober as fuck you know what I'm saying that motherfucker hurt you feel me like going to court shackled up chained up looking at your homies and shit you know what I'm saying like you only get out come out for like 30

Starting point is 01:11:48 minutes a day, that's to use the phone, that's to get in the shower, you know what I'm saying? And sometimes, you feel me, you don't get that whole 30 minutes because you might come out. And anytime you come out, if they got to let somebody else come out, you got to go back and lock it down. And then they get to come out and do whatever they got to do, then you come back out. So it's like, you feel me? Like, shit be weak, man.

Starting point is 01:12:10 You know, I heard Draco actually say at one point when he was talking about, like, what he was going to be doing now that he was out of jail, he's like, you know, you know, music-wise, he's just like, I ain't going to be talking about that prison shit because motherfuckers do not want to hear that. And I was just immediately like, damn, like, he's smart because I guess that really is true. Like, the prison shit is like not, like, obviously it's one of the most consequential, like, devastating things that you've been through.

Starting point is 01:12:35 But then, like, people don't really know what that's like. Like, I don't know what it's like. So I can only really listen to so much prison talk and relate to it. And, like, a lot of people probably feel the same way. Like, is that how you feel bad? Like, do you feel like you get out of prison? you just got to forget about it and just sort of wipe the slate clean

Starting point is 01:12:50 because your homies don't really need to know about it your girl don't need to know about it honestly I rap about prison right but like when I rap about I mix everything up in my songs like so in this one song I might rap about money

Starting point is 01:13:04 fucking bitches jail riding my Rose Royce so I didn't went from jail to riding the Rose Royce you know what I mean so it don't sound as bad the whole song topic

Starting point is 01:13:14 it'll be about prison working out and making spreads and shit riots. It ain't gonna be about that. I just rap. I just put it all in one song, you know what I'm saying? Kind of like a mixture of everything so it's like you can play it anywhere. You can play it in the club. You can play it anywhere because it's a mixture of everything.

Starting point is 01:13:30 You know? So I don't just make no motherfucking prison song. Hell not. I can't make it no prison video and shit. Nah, man. Everybody got a rap video where they're in prison and everybody got a rap video when they're in a straight jacket. Yeah, I don't. I always go do one, but like,

Starting point is 01:13:47 Like, I'm clausophobic. I don't need to be, let me out this motherfucker, man. You know what I'm that? Piss me off too, yeah. For real. All right, so were you working on, what kind of new shit you got on the way?

Starting point is 01:13:59 What do we need to know about? Honestly, bro. I work on so much shit, bro. Like, I'm not even just working on anything in particular, bro. I just, I just record, bro. Just record, record, record. And then I just put a title to it, you know? But right now I got so many songs.

Starting point is 01:14:17 I could drop a few albums right now. I could drop a few mixtakes probably right now. I could drop at least five. You know what I mean? Like, so it ain't necessarily like, I'm just doing a lot of videos right now. Just a lot of videos. You feel, I got probably about 10

Starting point is 01:14:29 I release videos right now. And that's just all I'm on right now. You feel me? Just really just dropping videos and just really just building. And I'm trying to work on my artist. You feel what I'm saying? Just really trying to see

Starting point is 01:14:41 which one of these nigg is serious about it. You know what I'm saying? Really letting them see the steps I'm taking. It really, feel me? This is what it's gonna take, You feel what I'm saying? It ain't about just going to the studio. It ain't about just, nigger, this shit is about,

Starting point is 01:14:52 nigger, it's more than just a studio, you know what I'm saying? You got to be really serious, you got to really work, you gotta really want this shit, so I'm showing them. It's just what you want, you know what I'm saying? Because I want to be able to sit back and let my artist handle the business because I got a lot of artists, bro, I probably got the most artists on my label, you feel what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:15:09 You feel I'm saying? You feel I got a gang of niggas that rap, you feel what I'm saying? It's like, everybody might not get the attention they feel like they need. So what I'm saying? I'm going to do is I'm going to just sit back, put everybody in the same position, and we're going to see who's going to take off. I'm going to put you all y'all right there, and we're going to see who take off. You get what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:15:29 Versus me just like, oh, I think you could do it next. Nah, you know what I'm saying? Because I might be looking at you, but this the nigga right here that's going to blow. Because you could be thinking, you might be looking at one person thinking you got the look and maybe you got the right voice and shit, so I'm going to really focus on you. But the truth is, is that the motivation is usually like the, the, you know, the, the biggest deciding factor because that's the part that even if somebody has the look and they got the talent like vocally or whatever you're just not going to be able to force them to give

Starting point is 01:15:57 a fuck as hard as you have to go because to be someone who's going to make it as a rapper you basically have to just like be ready to grind every day for however long for years and years and years and years and that's a lot of people just aren't ready for that no they're not ready for that and that's why a motherfucker got to see you know what they up against you got to see what you up against you know I'm gonna say, because motherfuckers is not ready for this shit, this shit did not come overnight. This shit, you feel me? Like, I don't know nobody who works who works, nobody who works, who put in more work to me, work harder than me, and don't sleep like me.

Starting point is 01:16:31 Like, I really, like, I lay this shit, you know what I'm saying? Because I know, once you really start getting paid for this shit, then a lot of motherfuckers really look at shit different, like, ooh, I just got $40,000. Damn, I just got another $80,000 check. oh I got a $120,000 check and it's coming, come in, come and this is all I got to do? Now it becomes a job versus

Starting point is 01:16:53 oh man, I just want to go to the studio. This is a job, nigga, we're getting paid off this shit. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like, I just want these niggas to put in that work to where like they're getting that type of money and they're seeing it because it's going to make them work harder. It's going to make them work more.

Starting point is 01:17:09 You know what I'm saying? Because you got to replace that with tiredness. Working with tiredness. You replace all that now you dig it what I'm saying? Now you got to just keep working, keep working and keep working, and the money go come. And as the money come, you're going to want to keep working

Starting point is 01:17:25 because, you know, the more you're working, the more the money comes. So it ain't no, I'm doing bad. Oh, I can't buy this. When I go in the store, I'm the only nigga shopping. Nah, we're all shopping, bro. You know what I'm saying? Even if you got money in your pocket,

Starting point is 01:17:40 I don't want to spend it because if I spend it, I'm going to be doing bad, nah, nigga. You know what I'm saying? We're going to all go spend this shit. You feel what I'm saying? And we're going to all do bad together if that's the case because the money gonna keep coming.

Starting point is 01:17:50 Like all these dudes got talent. All of them got talent. I believe in all of them, bro. You feel me? I'm God I do. You feel me? I believe in all of them. I gave them my platform.

Starting point is 01:17:58 It's up to these niggas to work. You feel what I'm saying? It's up to these dudes. You see what I'm doing. If you ain't doing what I'm doing, you just don't want it, bro. There ain't no excuses, bro. And we've grown.

Starting point is 01:18:08 We've grown now. You dig it now. You dig it? So the shit I probably would have did for you five, 10 years ago. I'm not going to do it because I'm giving you something. No one gave me. I'm giving you a platform in the way out.

Starting point is 01:18:19 You think what I'm saying? If somebody would have gave me that, I'd probably be farther than what I am right now. But I'm giving it to y'all. So now you just got to take off with it. My nigga pick it up and run with this shit. You feel me? Here go to studio. You ain't got to buy nothing, bro.

Starting point is 01:18:33 Y'all niggins ain't got to buy nothing. Which is if you're on, if you're really on zero, that's the hardest part is even having enough money to be able to get in a studio or even be able to have fucking pro tools in a laptop and shit a lot of people aren't even on that level you know exactly exactly like you feel me like like these niggins ain't got to buy beats they got thousands of beats niggins send me so many beats all day and i make it clear if you send me a beat bro if i don't get on it one of my artists are going to get on it though so don't send me no beat that you just uh if i don't get on it you're going to do some weird ass shit and start to sue or some weird no you feel

Starting point is 01:19:08 I'm saying because more than likely I might not get on it because I like a certain style of beats. We all got different styles. We all about the same shit, but we all got different styles. So when I get these beats, I'm putting them on a table. If I'm not gonna rap to it, I put it on a table. Or even if I am gonna rap to it, I just haven't heard it yet. And my niggas need some beats here. Go through these beats right here.

Starting point is 01:19:26 He might pick out the beat, you feel me, that I would have wrapped to, but I let him pick it. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, I'm letting these niggas do they thing. You get what I'm saying? So they got it. They really got it made, bro. Now it's about who wanted to my.

Starting point is 01:19:38 most. Who want it? Who's gonna go get it? Because you gotta take what you want now, my niggins. So take what the fuck you want, bro. He'll go to studio, he'll go to beats, he'll go to cameraman. All you gotta do is get there. I'll pay for everything else. That's a good message for the people at home. Get off your ass and make something out of yourself. And Lavish D will pay your way. That part. Lavish D, no jumper. Banked up boys, man. Appreciate you, man. I am a good. coolest podcast on the world. Check us out on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes,

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