No Jumper - The Curren$y Interview

Episode Date: June 5, 2021

Curren$y made his way to the podcast to have an hilarious conversation with Adam about life, fatherhood, dinosaurs, gimmicks in the music industry, spending time in New York in his early days, being obsessed with The Office and more! https://www.instagram.com/spitta_andretti/ https://twitter.com/CurrenSy_Spitta https://www.facebook.com/CurrenSy https://www.youtube.com/user/Stcustoms/videos ----- CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5tesvmDS8h50LkjnSAWMOs?si=j6sJD6DkR4mk5NZZWnlK7g FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFICIAL http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. And it's finally happening. We finally got currency on the podcast. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. And you said you wanted some of these 2020 edibles. Actually, should we give them some other ones?

Grab me my back because I feel like those ones are the old ones and they're not as good. Yeah, I don't want the old ones. I fuck with the ones that I have in my bag a little bit more. Anyway, it's amazing to have you here just because I feel like this is probably one of the most requested podcasts of the entire time that I've been doing the podcast. people always wanted to see you on here. I appreciate it. I feel like I've been here before because a lot of people that I fuck with

have been here. For real. And they, they represent me well and I've been spoken on, you know what I'm saying, in here. Oh yeah.

Always held in the highlight, you know what I'm saying? These ones are the ones. These sour ring ones, dude, I fucking eat these literally like when I'm getting done, when I get done interviews every day, I just fucking start munching those things.

It is. All right. I'm going to start off with two for now. You fuck with edibles often? Nope. They don't really do anything to me, man. I'm hoping that I say that and then these do something. I got to call you and be like, yeah, I had to cancel the session, bro.

Like that, that'd be cool, but I don't predict it to happen, man. Part of my plan was like I'm going to just eat mad edibles all day and be so fucking high by the time I interview currency that everybody knows and everybody, like, can tell that I just, like, overdid it. Man, these taste so good. Right? That's the one thing about it. The one time that it ever did me anything, I ate white chocolate pretzels. And that my phone was so good. That you just like on crazy.

And then when it was time to go, I wanted to go and I went to stand up, it's like the sofa, the whole sofa tried to go up with me. And then I knew I should just sit back down and cancel the move. And I just hung out. I was like couch locked. For real, how they say that. It's the only time I ever felt. couch locked for sure. I feel like back in the day I used to get insanely strong edibles

way more frequently whereas now it's a lot more manageable. I think uh because there was a competition back then. Right. Everybody's one the strongest one. Right now everybody's trying to stretch the weed that they didn't sell and nug and flour farm and cook it into the edibles as sparingly as possible and make their paper. Because like if it hits you off it, if it Don't hit you. You already bought it. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Whereas if you buy some weed from me, you don't like it. You can call me. Look, I still got 27 grams of the ounce, so go get this back. I'm going to pull up on you. But if you buy a fucking chocolate bar and bite that bitch or you half is not working, that's on you. Yeah. Ever since I got these is like... But these bitch is good.

This is like the new era of my life of just eating edibles every day and just slowly building up this fucking edible tolerance that I never had before. That's... Stand this one up. That's what I'm saying A watermelon when it's it It's like I'm living like a double life Because my girl really thinks that I'm just tired as fuck at 10 p.m.

And it's like, nah, I've been eating fucking edible since noon They taste, oh, that's criminal That's criminal how good they taste That's it, 2020 2020, yeah All right, we needed to drop. Y'all got it today, Jack Two motherfucking rings in I don't even know what they do yet

But it's cool We got one to stand up That's cool I'll just looking out for them Um, you know what's the craziest thing? We had mushroom sponsors on here multiple times, which I don't really get because it seems like it should be illegal, but I don't think they're coming from me. I'm seeing people, uh, like promoting retail mushroom.

Right. I've seen microdose stuff like microdose jelly beans or something in a little, with a cool little logo on it. I'm just glad to be around and see all of this happening. Yeah. I like mushrooms a little bit. You know what I'm saying? There's never something that I just wanted to do every day.

Yeah. Or even every weekend for that matter. Whenever I've done it, I feel a little too freaky, bro. It's just I'm a little tingly. I'm a little like just a feel, feels a little too euphoric for me. For sure. I have to dig my fucking nail into my hands. Yeah.

So something hurts me, so I can kind of like, all right, cool, you know. My skin is not changing colors. Like, I legit feel like tie-dye. A lot of things feel overwhelming. Yeah. Things are just sort of like... Last time I did it, I really felt like maybe I was Jim Morrison. Because I like the doors so much.

Right. I was like, I think some kind of way spiritually I have tapped into this dude. And I was like, you big tripping. Who puts you on to him? You know what I'm saying? In the middle of me tripping. I was like, you big, big tripping. When did you get on to the doors and shit?

Like my skater buddies out here. This back like in like 2000. four and shit. Back when I was with Young Money and shit, I had a lot of buddies who was sponsored by D.C. shoes. My motherfuckers who was snowboarding and shit. Like fucking trouble. Andrew was super tight.

We still tight, but that's when I first started hanging. Gucci ghosts. Like that. And just couch surfing in different areas and just kicking it. And just motherfuckers was jamming that shit. Like, motherfucker's to get high. and put on with daylight. And that's what I would do too.

And we would just, I was just picking up on shit. Dude, that's something that's underrated about skater dudes is that they end up with, and I'll say the same about BMX dudes, that you end up with very eclectic music taste because the videos will have tons of different rappers throughout all of rap history, tons of rock bands, weird, like, world music. Because you're finding out what each one of those dudes are into when they, like, into their zone. So their piece will have something else. So that's what made skate, tapes, DVDs so important.

Right. Because I mean, I was only a fan of the game. I wasn't really, I was not that tight. Right. But I always was into it. I would watch like fucking Red Dragon fucking tapes and shit like that too. And my homeboy, Renee Renee, he had music on some of those two. We ended up actually doing music together later on.

Right. You know, that's one of the funniest stuff. As long as we're talking skating, I got to do it, bro. One of my favorite things to do, one of my interview, Robert, gone World Star, search the name, and then look at oldest to newest. You and Terry Kennedy's little beep, what a fucking hilarious thing. Can I believe that happen? Yeah, I didn't even participate in it.

You didn't even do it. I, like, that's the best thing. I, like, chilled until the homie was like, what's up, Spiller? And I was like, bro, like, you remember? You know what I'm saying? Like, it's all good. I'm chilling regardless. Right.

So if you're chilling now, then I'm still chilling, but like, at least, at least just know that you did do all of that shit, but it's all good. The craziest shit is just seeing, I'm watching an old-ass video that rolling around in Watts talking about currency, can't pull up to Watts. Immediately. I got, they got to get me. He can't go anywhere. And then at the same time, I'm, like, loving, low riding and, like, around here. Right. And I've seen a dude that I know who is just in that video, and I'm like, I sent it to him. He's a, bro, where did you find that? It's like. Must seem like another world. Yeah, see, stuff doesn't go away. That's the thing about doing shit.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, it doesn't go away. You got to stay like who you are, man. Okay, but for the people who don't know, what exactly was the issue at that time. Honestly, I don't know. I know, oh, I think, I think it's because of the double XL cover.

Oh, really? Yeah. Like, see, it's always, it's some other shit. Like it was the double XL cover And motherfuckers felt like I should have I should like I guess represented them a bit more In my in my blurb in the interview Uh huh

For double XL shit Oh okay But they was talking like I don't know I didn't I'm not even the one who makes the write up about you You know what I'm saying But I didn't have time to explain that The thing that I saw was that Basically like you were supposed to be in a rap group at some point

with TK. and them? Yeah. And then it just didn't really happen. Or, like, his homies allegedly hit you up about doing music together. And you, this is what, TK's words, he said that currency said, no, I don't really fuck with y'all like that. Which is super funny to imagine you. Yeah, so look, take it out.

You've been around me for all of, like, 15 minutes. Right. Do I come across as the person who responds to, you know, an invitation to do music apparently with people that I know? and then I come back, no, I don't know. Like that, like, that's cold. But you do, at some point in your career as a rapper, probably many times somebody has tried to do a feature with you

and you had to say no in some way. Yeah, yeah, but I'm pretty, I never, I'd never lace it up like, no, I don't fuck with you like that. It's probably like, yo, this is not the cut or, you know, let's get another one, you know what I'm saying? Or fuck, whatever. Right. Yeah, or probably, or probably I was not asked because motherfuckers know

I don't really fuck with her. about it. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, I'm so, like, straight up and down, it wouldn't even, it wouldn't even kind of, yeah. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. That's why I couldn't participate, you know what I'm saying? Is that the only side that anybody came out you with, like, crazy gangster energy in your career? No, because sometimes I check my DM. And outside of, outside of pictures of boobs and, like, shit like that, there's always, like, the occasional, you know, like, yo, you got the fucked up son. Like, well, I'll find you. Like, damn, but I don't even, I don't I know I don't know you. Just about

some random shit that you don't even know you said. Yeah, for sure. But it's not, I mean, I know it was never even anything I said. It's just that that's people's springboard into the game. It's like, all right, this dude's already, like people paying attention to him. So if I get him to see

something back to me, then there's more clicks on whatever I have. And if my music is good enough, then nobody even cared that I got in by kicking some bullshit up, my talent will win over. And that's not yet. That's never it.

Like, we all love to see a rapper going from not being known to being known. We all love to witness the transformation. But let's be real, during the period of them not being known, a lot of thirsty-ass shit happens. Yeah, that's where it happens. That's where it happens because it's like, what's the shortcut? Right. They, like, I already, I put all the tune on my voice.

That didn't do it. I got to be. like this, that didn't do it. You know what I'm saying? I'm taking pictures in front of cars that off of me. I'm standing on them motherfuckers. That didn't do it. I got small pants.

That didn't do it. What the fuck to do? I'm addicted to X. Yeah, I'm on all the drugs. I'm pouring it. I'm rolling it. I'm popping it. Nothing's happening.

I'm going to fucking punch this dude when he's coming out of sacks spending his successful rap money. And even if I get my ass kicked after I do that, who gives the shit? Because they're going to be like, yo fucking bingo bango did this and now bingo bango bingo's everywhere now about you heard the new bingo bingo bingo bongo punch

this fucking whoopty whoop coming out of there now whoop's not hot anymore because he got punched and he didn't even see it coming and now it's fucking bingo bingo bango's entire like bingo bingo bingo could literally be a household name just as oh yeah that's the fool who because we all know that rest in peace but the dude who ran up on the baby in the louis vat store nobody knew he was and then he gets beat up and all of a sudden we know who he is There you go. Like, buy my album. They kicked my ass. You know what I'm saying?

Buy my album. Go fund me. Whatever. You got on, but it's interesting to think, like, you got on in a much more traditional way, but still the early days of the internet

of just having to really, like, do your thing. Nowadays, it's very different. Yeah, it's, you still at the network. You still had a song with Pitbull. Yeah, yo.

That's your first World Star Post. Motherfuck. pit bull and Mims Mims is one of them Mims. Hot! Do you remember Mimbs?

This is why I'm hot? Yep. Yeah, Mims is on that song. Red Cafe too. Red Cafe. Red Cafe. That's it? That's all?

I think so. DJ. It was a DJ, yes. I can't remember. I almost wrote it in my notes. I see him right now standing next to DJ Calid right now too. Damn, bro.

That dude gave me a look too. He like got me on that record. And right now. Now, here I am. I'm so superstar jaded that I don't remember the fucking DJ that gave me the look, man. It'll be in the comments. Yeah, I know. I know.

Hopefully it's not from him, you know what I'm saying? Take me back to where you were at in your life that that somehow became a son that you were on? I was checking my messages on MySpace at that time. And the motherfucker was like, yo, we're trying to get you on this record, you know. and well no no no no no no bro no no i had done where the cash at and this DJ brad the dude won the award and everything man can we just go to YouTube and search search currency pit bull that should be enough this is a this dude's a staple is he nasty is that it oh

Yeah, it is DJ Nasty. Yes. Yes, DJ Nasty. DJ Nasty was some kind of way involved in me getting the beat from street runners or from the runners for where the cash at. And then after that, I was kind of joining that circle of power in Florida. Me and Wayne had rapped over the young jocke is going down instrumental. And the radio station out there was playing it every five minutes. fucking Rick Ross

saw me at something and brought me on a boat it's like going down like that so DJ nasty is like oh yeah well let's put currency on this you know what I'm saying and people you know that was just the time of people trying to throw me alley oops because I was fucking

with Wayne and I made the loose so it's like well clearly this is the next dude so let's get into the process of doing that like that happened DJ Cal had me in the fucking we taking over video and like that was all that shit was like

getting crazy that's like kind of what built up into me saying I'm gonna step back and do the own thing because I was like oh it's funny because like I feel like if you came out today and you somehow become buddies with Wayne and they think about signing your shit there would be so much less

pressure for you to change now because everybody knows that like the rappers who blow up are kind of like unapologetically them for the most part. Yeah, absolutely. And when I came through, it was like, you know, regimes were already said, we make

our stuff sound like this. We do this, we do that. And then there was me like trying to express to and that was the same at no limit. Express to both those situations that there's a whole other group of people that I'm gonna,

that I'm trying to put this music out for it. But you can't do that. Because that's like bucking the system. We did what we did. This is our formula. We made millions of dollars like this. If you're going come over here play ball like that and I respect it. So that that's why I was like from in both situations I'm like I better just step back and do my own thing. Right. As opposed to like being counterproductive to what you're doing like I'm fucking it up. I'm slowing the process. But it's pretty amazing that you knew that much about yourself that early in your career. Well that that's just from coming up in the game and watching their like I'm

I watched greats, put their whole move together. So I got to see what worked, what didn't work, when they was happy with shit. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, so it's not necessarily about the money. Oh, it's not necessarily about getting this award. It's not necessarily about that because I didn't see him off of the still not be like pumped about a situation and shit.

And that's like, oh, I only want to do what I want to do ever forever. I understand. That's probably a pay cut because of the shit that I'll tell. moose to wave off that I don't want to do, which would probably put us in another spot. But I'm just like, you know, fuck it. Right. I mean, it's more important to be happy than to be just profit maximizing. It's worth the most money.

It's a battle because, like, I model my shit after, like, Snoop and Rick Ross at the same time. Okay. And Ross is happy. He's happy. and he's also like physically touching everything in the world because he's doing so much. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, damn, I probably don't want to do that much.

I probably don't want to launch a fucking hair cow line and this and this and this and this, this, this, this, this, this, this. You know what I'm saying? I want to have fun with the shit that I'm getting. And then, like, dog half his compound out here, and he's collecting all these calls and chilling, you know what I'm saying? Working a bit off of his legacy and what he's already done to the point where he might not have to hit the lab that much.

You know what I'm saying? But he could still do this ad for the beer for Corona and do all this shit like that and still pick it up. I mean, that's like the puzzle of life is where do you want to end up? Because then all you have to do is just do the things until you get there. Yeah, yeah, that's true. And just and not get caught up in the bread. And that's how you end up killing your legacy. I think motherfuckers get in the game.

And as long as they can still make. money they stop noticing it's not the same bag and then they they don't notice that they're just being tolerated in the game because the motherfucker respect their name or what they did back when people fuck with them but they stay around so alone until it's like people tired of that shit so that's that's really the whole balance man like compare being a pro skater to being a rapper if you're a pro skater like there's this crazy-ass time period where you'll see like an 18-year-old pro skater coming out and he's doing dead man shit taking risks every day crazy shit and it's like

I always look at that and just think fuck like how long is your body going to let you do that but then like the skate world like they kind of understand the dudes will mellow out over time and still just do their thing but what's kind of weird about rap is that that just isn't treated the same way it's like you always need to be reaching these accolades and being better and they're going to compare you to push shi because he's the hottest rapper right now. Now you've got to be hotter than him to be relevant. It's true. It's true if you live in that realm.

That's why I'm saying dog and Rick Ross. Ross is still active. So he's enjoying his work and sitting at that fucking coming to America 2 mansion. But he's still like, all right, we got to put so on this record and drop some relevant shit and go. He's still gone. Like, dog might make a record with Charlie Wilson for Christmas. You know what I'm saying? Because it's not because he needs to be on the charter.

He's trying to do, like to make a billboard record or some shit. Right. That is how it exists. I feel like it because I think that I'm blessed to be in that vein. Like, I'm like somebody who put down hammers and was on every fucking magazine. Right. You could be in the skate world and be sponsored by every brand that really counts. Signature everything that counts.

And then it's like, yo, he did all that shit. So you don't have to prove it. You know, it's like I show up somewhere. Motherfucker's not about to fucking, like, you wasn't about to, I don't know if you were about that. Like, you wasn't about to, like, throw an instrumental on. Like, all right, so you know where you're at, man. We got to get some boss. And you're like, you know I could get out.

I don't have to come in this motherfucker and show you that. That's really how I do. You know what I'm saying? Because I did that. So I feel like they give us that. It's just harder to get that. You got to really jump down a few flights of stairs. You got to put down real hammers for real, for real.

And if you look at my skate tapes, all my lines is beautiful. And all I dropped was hammers forever and ever and ever. And everybody who knew, they knew it. Even if I wasn't like on fucking skate world mag, motherfuckers knew what was up when they came to. to whatever park or anywhere I was the ones. Right. You know, yeah.

Yeah, I guess... And all the brands knew they had to fuck with me anyway. It is kind of similar to that. Yeah. But the question is... You just have to find the lane that will last is really the whole question because it is true that like if you are the flavor of the month dude

and you do features with everybody, you just burn out your value really quickly, you know? But you have to be yourself because long as they fucking with you for what you doing is not going to go out of style. Right. If you fucking trying to maintain your relevance or you change in your style, you're getting on different kind of shit all the time just to make sure motherfuckers still stand your name. That's how you're going to burn out. The motherfucker know what you're going to do.

Your shit is always, it's like, is bread can't go out of style because you need it for the sandwich. You know what I'm saying? It don't matter. That shit can't go out of style. You're going to come out with ways to make a different sandwich. Y'all going to stuff it with different shit, put shit on the bread, but the bread dealt, you know what I'm saying? So if you carve your lane out like that and become a staple,

motherfuckers are going to have to fuck with you. For years and years, as music change and the guard changes when motherfuckers throwing a certain type of beat and they think that they're about to rap about riding around and smoking or some shit, even if they don't know me. They A&R or somebody is like,

this sounds like a spiller record. Like, you should probably. And that's how I maintain to be like, to deal with every time the sets of artists change, I'm still going to fuck with it because my father's like, I ain't no way around it. Like, you gotta do that, you know? Definitely.

Yeah. What's the craziest ones that come to mind of like this person hitting you up to get on a song that you weren't expecting? Man. Well, I don't know because we is universal. And that, that, that, and me having my own strain and being in the brotherhood,

like kind of with everybody who make the best shit. I didn't been in the never room. Like, like, you know, wherever, you know what I'm saying? So, so when the motherfucker reach out to me for a record, you know, beat about nothing because we already jammed up off smoking. You get inspired by viewing the grow-up? Sometimes I feel like I never need to go see another grow-up

because I've seen so many. Nah, because it's a rum of weed. And it's like, it's a rum of weed. You can't even smoke right now. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not tripping. Like, I went to the Nike factory once,

And it's like, yeah, okay, these are the souls to the shoes. Right. These are the checks over here. I can't, I'm not about to do it, so it don't, it don't matter. Right. I might as well go to football. I just feel like I was in the room of money. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's different. Right. Yeah, you've never seen, that's why I don't, I don't have the grow room rap video. Oh, yeah. Just walking around rapping in the, in the fucking room for the uncured weed in a place that looks like Home Depot. Right. That's kind of one of many rap, Cliqueshers. You avoided that one?

Yeah, that's like the fucking back in the 90s. All right, we're going to do the everybody running scene in the video. And everybody's running down the alley from unseen enemy. You know what my favorite one is? My favorite one is that there's like white homeowners. And for some reason, the rappers have taken over the home and are rapping in the home. Yeah, okay. I like the neighborhood, the neighbors are like confused.

They're bad, yeah. Like, now there's Chevy's parked on the movies. grass who's this and there's always to do water in the grass and the flowers wilt because y'all just moved in and shit like that those are good those are good I like

damn I made it a long time without doing none of that kind of shit I'm glad I was always able to make fun of it I loved the roots never do what they do video and and I think that stuck with me for a long time which ones that the whole video is just complete rap cliches

Everybody's doing the junior mafia With the champagne glasses Doing like this They got the fucking running scene They got the fucking Let's make these dogs look tough Like a dog behind the fence Barking for no reason

They got that shit That was like a And they're captioning it As they do it There was a bunch of self-awareness there That we hadn't really necessarily seen yet For sure And you know what

I was saying the other day Straight jacket video It's not like that Put on a straight jacket They'll think you're crazy Well you know Not at this point. I know, but that's like the weirdest one

is like trying to convince the world you're a mental patient. They do that shit right now. They can do it right now with a fucking Louis Louis Vuitton straight jacket. And then it's on. You're the man.

You know what I'm saying? But, okay. Was like when you think back of those memories of, you know, sort of having to do things that you wouldn't do these days because you were so early in your rap career and you just wanted to get in the game

any way possible, like when you think, think when you put yourself back in that position, what do you think that that version would think of what you've accomplished up to this point? I would be amazed. Like, like, I would be amazed, and then I would probably try to pattern myself

after it if I saw that it could happen sooner. Because I didn't know that it could happen. I, um, every time I met somebody in the game, there wasn't how I thought it was. And I was like, fuck. Like nobody just chilling

It's not going It's not gonna work out You know what I'm saying Like this Because I'm not like that Right I'm not like this So clearly it's not going to work

You know what I'm saying But fuck it You don't have to say who But What kind of things stood out to you the most Just how people weren't real Like they weren't like

The regular people used to You know You just don't You just don't They never turn it off Like I don't I don't have a rap voice But motherfuckers have a rap voice

That's just one thing right there like how come how come something has to happen in your mind and in your throat voice box like to where you sound different to make the music I just your voice is your voice like do that and motherfuckers like talk in their rap voice because they have begun to believe they they'd rather just be that than whoever they was a lot of rappers even the ones we love admittedly are playing playing a character. Like, they're basically a wrestler at least at times, you know? Yeah, and that's cool that they admit it, but I don't fuck with that because, like,

that's when I stopped watching wrestling. Like, some of my sister, like, made me see it was fake, like, showing me that they're stomping on the mat and not actually hit out where I turned it off. Like, that was it. I never cared again, you know what I'm saying? Elvis, it was like when she told me that was no Santa Claus. My sister ruined everything that I believed in as a kid. So when she let me know that wrestling was fake,

I was like, that's it. So, like, that's the same thing with music for me, bro. Like, if I believe you, then I can listen to your shit even more. I respect talent. Like, some music is good, but I also know, like, ah, but that's not what it is. I really value it if I feel like it's the truth. That's why I think that's why people who,

who just like lifestyle rap is a genre I feel like I created because it's just about what the fuck I'm doing and I think that people who rap like that

you'll stick around longer once you get your stride because you're only talking about what you're doing so you're creating your ammunition for for your music every day you wake up

you know what I'm saying? But okay what about like kiss you know they like they put on makeup they're playing characters on stage. They got some good songs. Uh-huh. I mean, that's kind of what some rappers are like.

It is. Not many of them wear face pain. It is. The ICP does. Shut up, I-C-P. It is. But you know what, though? You also see Gene Simmons or whatever, like, not like that.

And hear him talk, and he's not like, he's fucking talking. But I feel like back in the day, you didn't see him without makeup. Maybe. I don't know. But you do now.

That's all I could put it on. Like, them dudes was just better at fucking hiding, you know what I'm saying, or go and do whatever they want to do on the load. But if you encountered them, they were people. Right. You know what I'm saying? But now, you know, you're incoherent on the record.

You're incoherent in person. I don't know how anybody makes it anywhere. All my examples I could think of of people who I respect, who are clearly, like, kind of playing characters at one point, is almost all back in the day. Whereas, like, now, I feel like the shit demands a more real, like, level of realism. Whereas a lot...

It's dangerous. But also... Kids didn't get anybody killed. Like, kids wanting to fucking dress up and look like wrestlers and shit, like them and scream and shit, that's not... That's all right. But when you fucking want to get the Draco and hang out the sunroof because that's what they're doing in the video and you get your ass shot for real, like, that's different.

I saw a rapper recently have a big. A big hit, like basically a fucking TikTok hit, and he's kind of sort of acting street in the video. And then shit cools off. His next couple of videos weren't really doing that good? And all of a sudden, he out here dissing, like, actual gangs. Like, he really picked a gang and is dissing gangs that there are people in other cities who are going to shoot at you over that. Because that's going to get people talking. And he's right.

It will get people. They got me talking. They saw what happened, what, six, nine was like, oh, fuck you, fuck this, wah-w-w-wop. And some people would respond and be like, yo, even if they were like, yo, so-and-so was tripping yesterday, they were still talking about it. So it always keeps shit gone. People see that. And they're not looking at how we feel about it. Or if we say, oh, that wasn't real.

They're looking at the money and how popular the person is or who's trending or whatever, for whatever reason that they're trending. and they just need to get there because then they'll put their spend on it and get the money and do whatever they're going to do. That's what they think. But once you get into that mix of being like a troll and just being like just a ball of mess like that,

that's what happens. That's normal now. Yeah, for sure. It's just about being the biggest ball of mess. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, you know, I remember back in the day,

like when Riffraff came out and there were all these videos of him just acting so crazy and we really like didn't understand that he was kind of trolling but that also he kind of really was this person who was acting like yeah yeah I fuck I fuck with riffraff I got riffraff on I don't know what album that was but I put him on something he snapped right he snapped I don't know if you know Ralph Samson Ralph Samson played for the Rockets

I had this basketball card but I only know I'm from basketball cards he played in the 80s fucking he said he's bawling like Ralph Samson and that was in the rap and all my homie was like uh and I'm like no bro like type it in your phone bro look at fucking Ralph Samson though and Ralph Samson is from Texas and dude is like Texas you know what I'm saying that shit was being like yeah riffraff is his rough rap knows like every basketball player and I'm pretty sure he has said I'm ball and like and then said that he used always say I could have played for the and he said every team yeah I kind of feel like maybe he's got a jumper he said I could played I could have played for the Bruins but I drank codeine fluid.

He said, I just took a pill. I could have played for Vanderbilt. He said that too, yeah. Oh, yeah. He said he, uh, fuck, he did something with Larry Bird in Barcelona. Yeah, I've done shot dice with Larry Bird and Barcelona. Yeah, he shot dice with Larry Bird and Barcelona. and Larry Bird played for the fucking dream team that played in Barcelona

and I'm thinking that deep and I'm like you know what bro? Quite possibly You know what I'm saying? A young riff-ref is like hanging out with the dream team and Larry Bird's like yo let's shoot nice.

Pain to the picture. You know what I'm saying? I remember one time there was a song that was like a fucking song that had become like to us BMX riders it was like we just listened do it so many fucking times.

We put it in a video. I can't even remember what the fucking song name. I remember he said, trapping in Iran. I was dodging trash cans. And that was like part of the hook. And I showed him it and asked him about it. Like in an interview,

just asked if he had any memories of it. And he did not, it was like he was hearing it for the first time. I could believe that too. You got a lot of music like that? I could believe that too. Yeah, because I don't listen to myself. You don't?

Yeah. I'm not. Like, that's one thing too. Like, I always, like, I peep too. like in the game you're saying like you see people be different when you get around

and that was something I picked up from people too like I was like successful people out like damn you listen to yourself like

all right it's other music out like albums dropped tonight like just now man let's listen to this you know but the motherfuckers

beyond these shit yeah yeah so I don't know I don't know my you revisit it at all you got to listen to it a little bit before you put it out how do you even pick

what songs are on a project Yeah. If I love it in the studio, then cool. And we'll hear it again when we make the track listening. But I'm not, you're not going to get in the call with me. And we're just listening to, you know, one of our projects. When you do a project, like, how many songs are you recording for, like, do you just record the number that you need? Or do you record a bunch and pick the ones you like?

It's on whoever I'm working with. I usually work with one producer. So whenever they feel like, you know, they represented themselves because I'm, I get a lot. the chance to do my shit through words verbally so it's easy for me to express myself they got to express their self through drums and pianos and shit so i'm like once you get off all your emotions you think you did enough then then we cool you know what i'm saying right yeah because i'm just going to match their energy whatever they make so so i take the whole trip with them too you know what do you like in your mind how are you still challenging yourself and becoming better like what are the things that

you feel like you're actually still improving on, because I'm sure you don't want your best music to be behind you. In what way do you feel like you're still improving? Beat selection, I always heard. I picked good beats, but I think that I'm expanding my palette more, like always every year. But still with some class though,

no matter what genre of beat I pick up, It won't be, you know, some run-of-the-mill one. It's going to be the finest one around. And I think also on the entrepreneurial side, just building more partnerships and making moves. I think I've done, I'm doing more than I usually do. Like I said before, I turn a lot of shit down. But as I'm kind of preparing to not so much step back,

but make room for the rest of our labeling shit. I'm looking at other shit I could do with my time, you know what I'm saying? Right. And shit that I know that that will keep working even when I step all the way off. Right. Yeah. How much do you care about being a businessman? And how much has that changed?

It changed once I had a son. I really don't give a shit. Like my manager is pretty much my brother. Because you probably had enough money. You probably had enough money to be comfortable for a long-ass time. Yeah. And at a certain point, it's kind of like, well, I don't really, how much more do I need? But once you have a kid.

Yeah, it's not for me. Yeah, none of it. The shit I already have ain't enough for him now. Because, you know what I'm saying? He has to have more than that. So that was the point where I was like, it's more so about starting businesses, starting partnerships that result in me, getting some checks, but putting them all to the side for him.

Like a lot of shit that I'm, doing now as we're structuring the deals it's all payable to him I'm not even you know I'm just going to do the work but the money's going to that kid like for sure like there's not even minds to put it in his account it's directly give it to this two year old do you feel like your time is best spent making music at this point or is it kind of your time's better spent basically monetizing the identity that you've created as a rapper making the music because I have, my team is small. So they're all very efficient at what they're doing.

So they're not going to drop the ball on that. So all I have to do is pump the music out to stay relevant enough for them to keep netting to all these other deals and opportunities because I'm staying relevant and staying like a conversation in music. You know what I'm saying? As long as I keep my constant, core audience and they're willing to support whatever efforts I do. There'll always be brands that want to collaborate with me or use me to shoot whatever

for an ad or whatever because they know I got a built-in set of consumers that are going to come with me just for the music. We'll buy this jacket because I had it on. We'll fucking smoke with these papers because they know that's what I'm doing. So, you know, I just have to keep on doing my shit. saying true to myself. And as long as I do that, they'll support everything else, you know. Makes sense.

Yeah, when I was talking to Josh from Raw about his whole brand and everything, his whole come up, which actually ended up being one of our biggest interviews ever, yeah, that's one thing he said is that, like, all of a sudden, like, he just finds out that Wiz Khalifa and currency are using his shit. And that just, like, opened his eyes to, like, that was the first time he realized how big rap could be for the brand and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. that food was, he was like blown away.

So you pushed the button on this and he was like, why? And I'm like, well, I mean, I smoked zigzags and shit at first, but these, I didn't taste, I could taste the paper in the other joints, in the other ones, you know, that'd been around forever.

And he had worked out of the way to where I didn't really taste that shit. The way he talks about rolling papers, bro. Yeah, it's a, it's a whole science to him. He's got the vegan Ferrari and all of that shit. So I know that's what's important to them and like the pattern of the paper and that's what makes it burn a certain way. So much about like the little tiny holes in the paper.

There's so many different kinds of paper. Yeah. No, he said it does all of that the whole time because why he's saying that I'm like rolling the joint or stuff in the color, I'm like, yeah, Josh, you know, I got you, brother. That's incredible. It's incredible. Well, yeah, fucking, we didn't even know that that that is what we were doing at that time. was smoking swishers when we first lined up and I was like yo bro blunt like stank bro like let's you should roll this let's do this smoke these

and then once we found the rods and shit because it was elements too elements we found those first elements Randy's elements DLX we were smoking all those they were smooth and then I then my homeboy in New York had gave me a pack of raws and I like now that's it I had the joint I had the papers before the combs. Okay. Yeah, the cones didn't come into the game until, I don't know, like 2010 or something. Ever, maybe.

How many blunts you smoked in your life? Were you on that at one point? Blunts? Tobacco products, yes? Yes. Yeah, fucking I was with cash money records, man. They're hanging out with a little Wayne on the bus, man. We smoked a zillion swishers.

I don't even know. Right. I don't even fucking know. That shit was so crazy. that you will see a pack of swishers and it's not the swishers, they've already been you know transformed

into blunts. We're just running through boxes and that shit. It's already going to know shit. Right. But then I got strep throat and I went to the doctor and the doctor was like, you got to find another way to do that. And then I started smoking joints and everything

was cool. So I started like pretty much preaching to everybody because I'm like, nah man, the doctor said eventually you're going to be fucked off so that's really why I was pushing that shit. That's why there's always that video of me telling Nip about

the shit because I'm like, because he was saying when he got off papers, when he got off probation he was going to smoke a blunt and I'm like, yeah, don't survive probation to then go and smoke a fucking blunt dog, like get with the joint. As I see, you got you. I see it's open edge.

air drying. You don't like the way it smells? You do what you do, man. I just don't like what it's doing to you, friend. You know what I'm saying? It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not water. It's not, it's not a fucking alkaline water, though. Dude, I took a week off recently and only ate a couple of the edible candies every night, not smoking anything. I'm my first time doing that and so goddamn long. That was weird. See, but this is what I see. See, there's a warning on this. I don't know if there's a sponsor. I want to lose your check. But with all of the All tobacco stuff. There's this warning, bro.

It is. Let's read it. Surgeon General warning. Tobacco use increases the risk of infertility, stillbirth, and low birth weight. All right. So, boom. And then you're going to get a pack of zigzags, and the only thing it says is 32 sheets. You see what I'm saying?

The government is pretty sure that there's nothing. Yeah, nothing's going to happen with that. Right. So I'd rather fuck with that. But think about it. NWA was bigger than public enemy. Yeah, because they were dangerous. It was more dangerous.

Yeah, for sure. Oh, no, I get it. I get it. Walk on the wild side, man. But at the same time, I'm like, you're cool. I hope that we're both hanging around on Earth for a long time. And the only thing I see you doing that might fuck you up is that. You're right, because I stopped all the other drugs.

Oh, well, yeah. Stop all the other drugs, you know, first and then get with that. Did you have to make a break from any other drugs? at one point, like, you were never crazy with it, right? No, man, I wasn't like, weed is good. Weed is good. I just like chilling. I don't know.

Nothing else ever appealed to me. It all hurts. I saw what? They do cocaine and then their nose is bleed. Right. That's going to suck. I don't want that. You never even tried it?

No. Oh, okay. No. One time the home girl, like, came towards me in the kitchen at a house. With a key bump ready for you? No, and I thought she was about to grab my dick, because she's like, like, making something funny face. I was sitting on the oven like on the stove top and

she's like doing that that way but then she went up to my face and tried to fucking put a finger in my mouth and then it did that and I'm like yo what the fuck and she was like oh it was just a little dose like you know and I was like oh no okay I got to get out of here

right I never went over there she had the fat ass too I wanted to hang out but she fucked that up that was too now nothing happened I was mind fucking myself Like I was in the elevator leaving her spot And I was thinking that you know

I'm like oh yeah I'm hungry I'm nervous All kind of shit's happening But nothing was fucking happening Man I was fine It didn't happen too Thing about Coke is it feels so good That anybody with a brain

Should be able to tell That it's really really bad for you Because like 15 minutes after you do it You feel like shit Oh It really like you have to keep it going Like that's how that happens Oh why because then you're gonna feel like

You'll regret it Right. Oh. Like you see pot heads. That's how you become scarface. Yeah, exactly. Podheads become. That's how the fucking mountain.

You know, you'd be like annoyed as fuck if you didn't have any weed for a while, but you're not going to be like breaking into a fucking auto body shop. I've seen what they do. I saw fucking boogie nights. Right. Those dudes almost died over that shit. Right. That dude was like jerking dudes off in the parking lot or something.

I've never seen that. I'll be honest. Yo, he hit some lows, man. Right. He was doing pretty good. He's banging all the chicks in the porn industry. He's got a corvette and shit. And then after that, his addiction took over.

And he is like... Damn, I got to watch that one. Yeah. Yeah, just watch the beginning. Once the drugs take over... What's the movie where they're like, is Bob Saggett? And he's like, you know, I suck dick for Coke. Oh, that's...

You ever suck dick for wheat? I have a big. I mean, that kind of says it all. But, you know, this is definitely girls sucking dick for weed. Let's be real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, it's sad. That's true. That's true. But just because, like, they probably don't think sucking the dick is that big a deal. They don't really think they finessed the dude out of the weed. But also, weed is worth a lot of money. They for sure, like, get back in the car. Like, all right, girl, let's go.

We bought to smoke this shit. And it's like, all right. There's definitely, bro. There's definitely girls out there who are like, I'll suck dick for 500 or 650 worth of weed. You know? $500 or $650 worth of weed You know like they probably have like a scale You know

Like if you go to other countries If you're going to pay in the U.S. dollar They'll charge you more To make up for the fact that they got to convert it after Same thing with them Because they got to turn it into money somehow The weed has a resale value Exactly

They can get on Google and buy like fake bags And then short it all And then sell the bags And then it's on I went in this dude I was out riding my bike with my friends And I see this dude And he comes up to me

giving me weed and he's like yo this is my shop over here check my shop out i go in he got mad bags of like not actually the weed that is pretending to be and i'm like damn he's like he's like yeah i just sell these to people and shit i'm like bro like what are the companies thing he's like oh they want to kill me i'm like that's fucking crazy man i'm like what a hustle yeah it's just like the bootleg table it's just like fake jerseys bootleg tapes and shit you know okay just hustling right now You know, a lot of people doing that shit. Oh, yeah, you hear about all the time. Fake runts bags?

They open that backpack and they got all the fucking bags that you know are supposed to be in the display case somewhere. Yeah. I'll always see. They bootleg, they got fucking fake Andretti bags. That's when I knew we had to be making some paper. I'm like, oh, they bootlegged the bag. Right. I didn't think we made it until it happened.

I always see like viral shit on Twitter of like a runts bag, but it's filled with some mid-as-wee with big ass stems and shit. Like, who the fuck is falling for this? I could dig it. Well, shit. They got the spray. So the motherfucker's not even looking in it in the club. They're selling that shit in the night in the club. That's in a strip club.

They just pop it open and they smell like it. You know what I'm saying? Close it back up. They're going to smoke it when they get back to the spot. They see what they did. You ever feel like you're around enough people who want weed? They're like maybe you should just be a weed dealer. You don't have to admit it if you actually have to.

Well, I mean, I am legally, you know? We got three streets. strains over there that had a dreaded can or co. But being like the guy in the studio where when people need weed, like, no, currency got you. Oh, no, I never, I never thought that. I never thought that.

I've always thought that whoever the weed do this is making a cool little bit of paper and that's good for him. Right. You know what I'm saying? I've always took pride in finding the guy who comes over to take advantage of that. Once I hear like, oh, there's like

nine different studio rooms in here all these people don't have weed. So then I hit the home like, yo, come make you a cool little bag, you know what I'm saying? And then that's cool. And then, you know, what I get, I end up getting like an ounce on the way out because he's like, man, fucking so-so just fucking bought everything, bro. Here you go. Right. Like, all right.

And then I just grow stronger. Right. One time I was in the studio with Glow Gang and any desire to be that guy's song, we immediately went away when I saw what this guy's experience was like. Because every single one of them wants to crack open every single bag and smell it and say it's not big. You know, like, they were just going for any possible angle. No, they wanted it like really bad. But they also were just like they're like the most discerning customers to this guy. I'm not saying they're always like that.

Maybe it was just this day. But I was just immediately like I felt like I saw exactly how bad that job might be. I watched this show High Maintenance. You watched that? No. Oh, man. You're so busy. like trapping it.

You couldn't even remember that half-baked was that movie. It's been a long time. Yeah, you got to spend enough time in front of the TV. We got to take some time. You're that dude who like rewatches old movies all the time. For sure. I can't do that, bro. Dude, no, I can, I know

every episode of the office on mute. For some reason, I know that. You can mute it and play it, and I got it. That's definitely my most watched TV show of my adulthood. It's well written. It's American Dad with real people. You know what I'm saying? It's like all your best cartoon scenarios

acted out by real people. Who do you relate to on the show the most? If you were one of those characters, who do you feel like closely matches your personality? Robert California. Doesn't show up until the very end. Yeah, there it is. Robert California, man.

He was the best, bro. There wasn't like a stoner on the show. Mm-mm. Right? Ryan was a heroin addict That was pretty close That was heavy That was heavy

They found a half smoke joint In the parking lot Right remember that And there was that whole investigation Behind it Yeah And I think it was It ended up that it was for

Was it for Michael? He smoked at a concert Oh Well he ended up admitting that But I don't think that meant So that wasn't his So whose was it? Did they ever actually figure it out?

The warehouse guy, okay Oh okay Probably the dudes Who he went to buy weed from to frame Toby. Oh, no, but that was a separate. So it might have been those dudes. The warehouse guys sold him the fucking paprika salad.

It was those dudes who had that weed. I'm sure it was them. That's why he went to them later on, seasons later to buy weed. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You know what that seems kind of fucked up is the separation between the office workers and the other workers?

The warehouse. That was all fucked up. It's tough. Those dudes, it's like they worked in a completely other building. They were like second class citizens. For real. It's crazy. They get paid less.

But like Roy was tapping Pam for a while. He fucked that up. You know what I'm saying? Early on too. And lost her to someone who was in her same class. You know what I'm saying? To a beta male. Yeah, he wasn't as big and strong.

He wasn't. He wasn't. But class-wise, in the caste system like we learned about in school, he existed at the level that she did socially, so it made sense. That must have been rough for Roy to lose his. girl to a little shrimpy guy with messy hair. He lost his gig, too. He came down to kick, Roy.

I remember that, yeah. He got maced. He got maced. Roy ended up singing at a wedding to that other chick he married. He did, Roy? And he made some money, too. Really? Remember the mug shot after you got his drunk driving arrest?

Yeah. I always wonder if he poked itself in the eye for that picture, if that's like a contact, do the makeup people know how to do that? Like, how do they give you a fake bloodshot? for TV purposes. When you're watching at home and you're thinking of yourself as Jim, and you've got to make this choice between Pam and Karen, which way were you rooting?

It's Karen every time. Really? Yeah, it's Karen in every show that she's in, and I call her Karen in everything. She's ever... She's... She's... So beautiful.

So I should definitely, like, say her name. She might holler. She's Karen in everything. You know what I'm saying? In light of... of the negative connotation that comes with the name. Nowadays, she would not be Karen. She is.

Karen's ruined. She's different. Nobody will ever name their kid Karen again unless they like actually want them to be like a racist birdwatcher or whatever. She was the hardest. She was it. She was it. But I think that says a lot because Pam was sweet, but Pam was kind of like a local fucking loser. Yeah, was like, you know, just trying to.

She said, she told that girl. She's like, your heart doesn't know what they want. until it wants it. So she's like, I'm just sleeping around the office until I realize which one of these dudes is the best. Pam is not the kind of, like, I mean,

I respect building a life with a random, regular-ass girl, but, dude, she wants to be a fucking designer, and she doesn't even know Photoshop. She didn't finish art school. Karen goes off and becomes a CEO and shit after. Karen was it, bro. I think that they wrote that in

so that people, and I think, and I think it works on both sides of the board. Ladies and men, like, do what's best for you. Like, if the signs are pointing towards, like, this is it, this is the fit, and you sleep on it, then you're going to end up with what you thought you wanted, and it's going to be like that, man. She didn't even want Jim to start athlete. And they were going to make tons of money. And she was, like, about the shit on that.

She was hating on that. And he was going to make the money for them, you know? That's tough to watch. Yeah. because most people end up with a PAM. Yeah, that's why they wrote it. That's why they wrote that into it. So that people would identify with them and be like, oh, man, don't do it.

Because you're watching it and you relate to them so much, but then you watch the shit crash out. So it's like, yes, that will happen to you. That will happen to you. Get off of the couch and tell this motherfucker no or tell this one yes or whatever because you'll end up like that. But at some point, when you are choosing your woman, you do have to just make a choice and accept that I'm not going to be Mr. Ambitious that's going to run after the next bad bitch I meet, right? Yeah, yeah, because they don't stop making them. But you have to guarantee that yours is indeed one. Might not be one.

You know what I'm saying? It might be like the batter of the bunch that you saw. You know what I'm saying? And when you delve into it, you know, might not be it. So you really got to see, man. Take your time. Take your time. You're spoken for in that regard?

Hey, man. I'm just living my life. Okay. I'm living my life, man. I'm living my life. Right. What's close to the office in your mind in terms of, like, shows that really captured your attention? Portlandia.

Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, Portlandia is good. You love laughing at white people, huh? I mean. Like, honestly, bro, like, like, the homies are, like, too busy being cool to, like, to be that funny. It's just sometimes, like, sometimes they push it.

They take it too far. You know what I'm saying? Like, um, like, they have no problem. Like, like, like, white dudes, like, on, like, fucking show their butts and shit, like, jackass and shit to take it too far. You'll be laughing. Right. And they'll do some shit that'll wear me out, you know what I'm saying?

Take a little too far for you? Yeah, but fuck, outside of that. That's probably the biggest cultural gap between white boys and black kids is that white boys are gay joke city. And black dudes nine times out of ten

are like, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah. And I don't know, man, like where the divide is, bro, because I hear the shit and it's funny. You know what I'm saying? But you can't bring yourself to laugh. I even know situations where perfect, there's this.

It's just perfect for one, but it's like, I can't do it. You know, I know I can't do it. Just like, they know they can't be like, oh, my niggas. Like, they know they can't do that, and I know I can't do that shit, you know? That's the continental divide right there. Right. Yeah. You remember when Tyler was doing the freestyle to Funk Flex?

Yeah. Check it out, though. See? And I was going to tell you this. Every now and then, they'll come one or two that can do it. Then he's one. You know what I'm saying? I was also thinking about he passed away, man.

Like Harold Hunter was wild but funny to the point where like he didn't give a fuck. Like that might happen. Like he might fucking. Being a skater, you're going to get that like sort of white kid's sense of humor too, especially how he came up. That's why I could relate to it so much because I hung out. That's who I was hanging with. That's the motherfuckers I was around.

So it's like I was hearing the shit. That's how I knew how to do those jokes But it's like I can't do this shit When I go back around the way Like I have to code switch And then go home and not do that shit Because But when I go back around there

I also don't do it Because it's like They know for sure I'm not about to do that And they're even Maybe monitoring how much of it they do Because it's like Yo we're wearing the homey out Do you even bother the code switch

At this point in your life? No Because I remember I remember like I did it like to survive shit you know what I'm saying and at this point now it's like what danger

in my end you know what I'm saying like if I fuck this up if I fuck this up in here you know what I'm saying this not gonna fuck up what I'm doing right you know what I'm saying so when when shit was different you had to watch how you were

at a certain spot because like these motherfuckers are pull the chain on you and none of which you on doing in your career or for your mom or anything will happen. You know what I'm saying? I was thinking even in the sense of like if you're in a business meeting, do you even really bother to put on a different face? No, because they already know what they're fucking with.

That's what I'm telling you. Beforehand, you had to do it to survive because it's like, all right, they're about to let you in the room. This might result in a 10 grand pickup. When 10 grand was like so fucking you had to go in that bitch and not so much. much fucking doing fucking soft shoe dance but

like make sure you know what I'm saying you try to like you damn near like get into the mold a little bit of what might nail it for them you know what I'm saying you kind of thinking what they might want it to be and kind of do that you know what I'm saying but that shit feels stupid there's my one friend

AD that I do the show with and he is gangster I guess you could say and he he acts at least a little bit gangster most of the time You know, at least like the way he talks and shit, but then I heard him like pick up the phone with his bank the other day. Yeah, see, I called it the pizza voice. And he completely turned it off. I call it the pizza voice because that's what I've been calling that since we were young because that's when you first started doing it.

That's when you first start doing that shit. When you call the order a pizza and you don't want to sound like you're in the hood because they're not coming. They'll tell you they're not. You're not even going to get that motherfucker. So you got to be like, um, yes. I'm calling. Uh, could I, do you guys still have the Sicilian? you got to do some shit like that

so you could get that motherfucker because if you call the other way it's like oh we don't have no cars or we don't have drive on some shit like that because then I'm gonna bring that bitch to you so yeah it's always been to survive and what's more survival than getting the fucking pizza to the house

right you know so yeah the biggest code switch is when I come home to the kid oh that's everybody's car switch you kidding me yeah yeah I don't even speak I'm like I'm a cartoon for my son

I don't even know I've said before, like, I don't know how much he reveres me as his father or if he thinks I'm just like... Like a jokeer. Like something he has, like just some kind of fun, just a fucking, he's two.

Okay. So like... My girl's six months, so. Oh, did. Yeah, like, listen, this dude like, he's at the point where he's like, he's like, mommy, like, telling me, like he hears, his mom, because he's like, we could both possibly be about to be in trouble, bro. Like, he doesn't know, like,

I'm like, I'm not fucking in trouble, you know what I'm saying? Your mommy, niggins. Tell me, but it's like that, though. But that's just because we're super tight. I remember when my kid was maybe like a month old or some shit, I was coming home and I had been watching the Gucci and GZ versus battle on my phone in the car. Okay. And so I come in, it's blasting.

My girl's sitting there breastfeeding and with my mom is there. And I'm laughing my ass off. I'm hooting and hot. I couldn't, you know, whatever. And then like it just like hits me like oh fuck like I got to come in gentle yeah every time you have to mute that yeah you got to turn off that into a dude talking about smoking the redacted yeah a blunt filled with the ashes of another person yeah so with that comes a bit of explaining yeah so yeah although you had the whole generation it's it's my

It's grandma, mom, baby. Yeah. Yeah, it's your girl's mom, is there? No, it's my mom and then my girl. Yeah, all right. Yeah, still, yeah, that's boom. But already, like, my kid is six months, and it already doesn't feel like I need to be, like,

as quiet and peaceful as shit. Because at that super young age, it's, like, anything loud and crazy and shit that could sort of upset them, you know? Yeah, yeah. Did you play music when she was born? All the time. Like, when she was born.

Pretty much. I don't know, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say it was like something gangsters fuck. It's probably pooh-cheasty or something. Like it's like I, just early on, she just, I've never like played kid music around it. My girl does sometimes, but she's like hanging with me. I play whatever and she never has ever acted like weird about it. I play a superfly soundtrack.

As soon as he popped out when they, we were like leaving from the, that where you have the baby room to the, like where you're going to kick it at room. yeah like that's i put that off that's tight and he's he's like a smooth little dude for it i have a playlist of like sort of gentle folk and and classic rock songs that i've been building up for her so that's been nice set the mood yeah have a chill baby man right yeah i feel like my son is super mellow like because of the music right he he he asked to watch the mac he knows that he know when he hit the music to the mac he know when he hit the music to the mac he know He knows the difference between Super Fly and the Mac. Oh, wow.

He's two. See, that's the kind of decision is, do you want to feed him Cocoa Mellon and all this crazy-ass animation shit? Yeah, I don't. It's not real. Or do you want to sort of give them, like, I play Burton Ernie in my kid sometimes, like the old shit from when I was a kid. Yeah, me too.

I don't want to turn them out on. It's like, the cocoa melon is like fucking fentanyl, bro. It's shit is too powerful. I don't understand really what it is. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. But it's 100 times more powerful than heroin. It's only appealing to their eyes and their ears in a sense, but it's not giving them nothing.

It's like making little noises and moving around. I don't know. I don't fuck with it, bro. The cocoa melon, like, the thing that's different about Cocoa Melon to me is that the songs are so bad. And they always use the same melody. Yeah, and they fucking fit words in that don't, like, they go completely off beat. From a rap perspective, it's a fuck. It's terrible.

It's not music. Absolutely. That shit is hard. And, man, she'll put that on for him and, like, leave it. And I'll have my eyes closed, and I'm trying to, like, kind of use it as a book on tape while he's watching it. And I'm just dying because I'm like, yo, this is, they're butchering this. This is not good. But there are, like, rap songs, too, that I love that I listen to.

And I'm like, I'm not looking forward to the day that my kid asked me what that line means. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, shit, all of it. That's coming. You know what I'm saying? But what we're going to do? I got to deal with the day that this dude asked me, you know, to fucking smoke an ounce with him. I'm like, oh, yeah, dad, I don't hear that about don't smoke, bro.

Look what I found. Look what that showed me at school. Look what someone so pulled up on internet. You never showed me this. You know what I'm saying? Turns out you're incredibly famous for this. Yeah, so, fuck. Dad, you won an award?

Yeah, so, you know, what are we going to do? It's just about being We're all going to be cool parents How about this though Alright your kid's 11 He comes home He's like so-and-so beat me up at school Yeah I've been thinking about that one too

Like what the fuck do you say I've been Been trying to prepare myself To not want to do anything To the child Or anybody else You know That's my whole thing

Because right now I'm not good with Watching him play with monster trucks And shit with other kids because motherfuckers would be like mine. And I'm like, well, actually, no. That's his, bro. You know what I'm saying?

You're that, dad. Or, like, peeling little fingers off of his shit and giving it back to him and shit like that. So if he ever, like, you know what I'm saying, a motherfucker's like scratch my face, bro. I was like, oh, yeah, like, well, we both getting in the car. Let's go. You know what I'm saying?

So I can't. I can't be like that. So that's tough. You ask the real thing. I mean, I've been trying to prepare myself for that right now. And it's just like looking at him do his thing. He's just super innocent.

And I'm like, yo, like, the world is not how you think it is. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody is not going to think like you're cute and smart and shit like that. Like, there's going to be motherfuckers who can't stand you. I can't, I can't

fathom it. I don't know how but it's going to be like that. It's motherfuckers who can't stand me. I can't get it. You know what I'm saying? So like that's going to happen for you. I know how I dealt with it. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, I don't want you to have to deal with none of that shit. But it's coming just for you being

alive. That shit crazy to the point where I'd be wondering because I used to think it about myself like if my parents like thanks, you know what I'm saying? I'm stoked, you know, to have a chance to like make money and ball out and shit. But

I also got to deal with hell of shit that I wouldn't have had to do. if I never was here and I didn't know about it, you know what I'm saying? So that shit is wild to me not having a kid because I used to think about that a lot. I'm glad like I'm here. It's like I also have to like not be here, you know. So it wouldn't matter if I didn't, if I never was in the first fucking place. Having a kid like that, that made me think about shit like that.

Sorry if I got like super fucking, but that's, that's super real. I gotta take a piss. I'll be right back. Yeah, yeah, that's real. See, I don't never get them edible as a chance to work because I'll be smoking at the same time. How many, how many do you have to eat? Are you smoking at the same time? All right, so how many you had to eat before you know you ate them?

I was one away. I was one shot. That's why I don't feel him. He said you got to eat three to feel them. I ate two, yeah. You ain't feeling it yet? No, I'm one shot. I was one shot.

eating more. Okay. I mean, maybe that's why I told you so much about, you know, about how I feel about my kid in his existence. Maybe that was the fucking sourings. Do you, do you have a temper? Well,

she'll say yeah, but I don't think so. Mm. I don't think so. I think I'm cool. Like, it takes, it takes so much, so much that it probably doesn't happen. You know what I'm saying?

I can't remember the last time. I ain't that much. You know what I'm saying? It take a lot. I don't really extend myself nowhere in a situation I kind of can't control. So ain't shit going to happen to piss me up. I'm in my studio. I'm like in my car cruising.

Right. With my car club where we park at. I'm at the Jet Life office or so shit. So nobody going to crash my party, you know, a harsh, nothing. I bring no vibes. I don't fuck me. Right. Yeah, like, I feel like I'm lucky to be in a relationship with a girl who is so sensitive

and not aggressive that that part of me, like, in the past when I think about arguments I had in other relationships and shit, where it got, like, aggressive as fuck because you each keep up in the tempo. But with my girl, she never really gets past like a two or a three. Yeah, so you can't do it. So our worst fights, our worst fights. You crazy if you still are tripping. still don't even really have, like, yelling.

They're like a little yelling, but not like, you never, like, you know? That's perfect. That's it. Because then you still could do what you got to do. You got a peace of mind. You can make your money. That other shit, like anger, fuck all the money up in any situation, in a relationship,

in anything, in business. Once motherfuckers get mad and shit, they start thinking different. The business is crash. You're not going to make no money being pissed. It ain't going to work. You can't even win a boxing match, pissed. That's why a motherfucker try to draw that out you and make you mad. So you start trying so hard to knock them out,

they miss one fucking thing and knock you on your fucking feet because you're putting everything behind this punch trying to hit them so fucking hard. It's better to just stay cool. Like relationships are one thing that a lot of people feel comfortable, just being their most animalistic, emotional self in. and at a certain point in my life I started to kind of realize you don't need to just say

whatever the fuck comes to mind you need to be at least a little methodical about doing what you need to do to get what you want to make her happy to make it so you can go about your life and enjoy your day without having to you know like just because something comes into your head

you know in business you don't think just because I'm thinking something I'm going to say it why reserve that for your girl just pick your battles you just pick your battles you just pick your battles, man. You know what I'm saying. That's what my mom always telling me about shit like that. Just pick your balance because you're going to

have some, but don't do it all the time. You're making yourself miserable. If everything that raise the eyebrow creates a comment and pulls this out of you, then you're going to weigh yourself out. So you just protect yourself because you know

how you're going to get trying to express this point. So if you don't even trip do something else, you save yourself because motherfucker not even going to get it. anyway. That's going to drive you even crazier. If they don't get it, then you loud and just fucking spinning out of control when you could

have just smoked the joint and took the car out. You know what I'm saying? And by the time you get back, that shit did. The motherfucker don't even know they did it. They're oblivious to it, so they've done so much other better shit, you know what I'm saying? It ain't even no thing. You probably got something

to eat and just kicking it. So you got to just go more into that. You, like in terms the brand that you built for yourself and of yourself and shit is very much, you know, like to just be a very like cool, calm, laid back person.

But a lot of times the shit that we see rewarded and rap, especially now, is the most aggressive, disrespectful shit. But I also think it creates a balance and it gives us room. Because so much of that

make my shit stand out. Because I'm not doing that. That's how I always, like, I always got girls off debt. Because this motherfucker's like, oh, because girls are around. And then it's like, I'm like looking at Little Rider magazine or something. It's like, all right, what's up? I mean, the thing to me is like just how do we make that? Like, I would be like a lot happier to see a nation, a young kids who would rather be a currency than a redacted.

I'm not going to even throw a name out there. The way that happens is if we uplift those people that are doing that instead of, like, not so much throwing dirt on us, but not putting that same light on us, you know? It worked out super cool, super cool for Jay Cole just now. This is true. And, like, I feel like that, and I already felt like just what the shit Griselda was doing, the shit I'm doing, Freddie, I was like, it's a shift. It's not so much a shift, but it's people wanting. something else because they're getting so much of this other one.

Anything they put on that's in control, like of the media, anything, that's all they're going to get. It's like, all right, I'm going to fuck with this too. You know what I'm saying? And that's the crazy thing is that hip-hop is so big that even me right there trying to put that narrative of like, oh, all the biggest shit is super violent and disrespectful.

Well, I mean, you can definitely point to a lot of fucking rappers and say, yeah, that shit is huge. But you would be remiss to not also say, like, Kendrick and Jay Cole are pretty much like the biggest rappers or even a Drake who is not out here with bad energy like that. Because motherfuckers are being you can't avoid

the other shit. So there's other, the alternative is the one that people are going to gravitate to because it's not hard for me to hear about I'm going to rob everybody. I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this. It's on the radio it's on TV. It's on

fucking, it's sponsored ads. It's everywhere. So I'm going to go and look for something else. That's the same thing. We do that with clothes. We do that with anything. If they were giving us clothes, like a free uniform,

then we would be, like, breaking out, like, we would be radicals. Motherfugners, like, the people on the Matrix. I want to wear my own clothes. I want to do this. You know what I'm saying? That's what people do with music. And we all gravitate to something that's different.

You know what I'm saying? Because that other one is too easy to get. We fuck with it because we, like, smothered in it. So it's culture. Okay. but I'm going to go and grab this too so it works out. That's why I feel like it's always room for us. We always can win.

You know what I'm saying? Because we're the alternative. You got to ride to the club and from the club. You're going to hear that other shit in the club. You got to get in your car and smoke on the way back. You don't want to hear all that shit yet. And when I really think about it, like, when I had the shop on Melrose and shit, it's like, I definitely met a lot more currencies

than gun-toating maniac style. You know? I mean, I'm not super trapped out dudes, but... I always used to say that. I was like, I think it's more of us, you know what I'm saying? It's because it's easier and it's safer. This shit is just more legit. That, like, you...

I know them fools, too. But you got to be a certain motherfucker because if you really living like that, shit is coming back to haunt you. You're not really getting sleep. Like, that's not for me. And motherfuckers who real with themselves, they know if it's for them or not.

You know what I'm saying? So it's more real people than crash dummies, you know, and then as real people, we make a decision. Either we're going to be about our neighborhoods or whatever and give our life to that shit and they do that. Or it's the motherfuckers who are like, I'm going to get my life to trying to find an alternative way. And if we bust some move and motherfuckers see we did it, it's motherfuckers who want to do that too. And, you know, that's how you begin to normalize it. I always hear people say, like, you open the door for motherfuckers to kind of be their self in music. and just kind of rap by what they want to rap about, you know what I'm saying?

So it just get bigger and bigger. So right now, we just, at the beginning of it, in a while, it'll be different. It won't always be like that. It wasn't like that before. Right. Yeah, it's just kind of a question of how we sort of lower the temperature on the whole. Yeah, well, you can't because it's making money. It's a money thing.

The other shit don't make no money because we're promoting, like, chilling and shit where's the money in that the other shit is about products everybody's rapping about products so that shit we got they got to push that because everybody eating off that shit whereas a motherfucker rapping about you know doing good for self and getting in shape or eating better or some shit that shit ain't going to make no money i think uh consumerism is like one of the underrated vices for people like poor people and shit because i mean you know convincing somebody to become a drug addict is, yeah, that's horrible. But if you convince somebody that they need to live outside their means

and spend money on stupid shit and clubs and fancy cars before they put their money into buying a home or whatever, like that shit is just as deadly, like selling people on that notion. That's it. That's it. But it makes more money because you're telling people to fuck their lives, spend everything they have. So with that said, we got to put the light on you,

because you're getting everybody paid. That's the way that shit worked. You know what I'm saying? Why I say it's a pay cut to be the way we are because there's so much other shit we can't, you know what I'm going to reach out to us for it because they know, you know, that's not what we're going to push, you know. We were having the conversation the other day

about how, you know, early 2000, or, you know, 2002, 2003, where everybody was rocking a white tea. And I was like, bro, I can never see that coming back because everything always trends more expensive. But at some point there does need to be a correction, but also it's kind of hard for me to imagine something that's very inexpensive becoming the cool shit. Yeah, well, I think that they would just,

they would just luxury it. Right. You know what I'm saying? To the max. Like, not, I'm not like a polo shirt or something like that right now. I mean, they would just do something else, but I don't know, like, A leather band or something. There would be something extreme, something that's not even cool.

You know what I'm saying? Or maybe like maybe they'll just be like those tall teas, like super long or some shit like that. I don't know. We got to set the trend of like, you know a lot of the tech CEOs like Mark Zuckerberg, like literally wears the same t-shirt every day, same pair of pants? I could dig it. I was like, I mean, that's pretty cool. That's why I mean, I only wear sweatpants than Dickies.

Right. And the thing about Dickies is like I could just. wear like that green pair like twice this week you know what I'm saying because it's like uniform pants you know what I'm saying we was at school and my school wore the green pants I might have wore that pair like three or four days or nobody would know that's how I feel about that shit keep and it's always straight it's clean okay definitely you know like they always say like you know I'm sure songs of yours like just capture certain moments in your life but the summer before I moved to Long Beach when I was still living in Brooklyn, there was a day where I just went out

with my homie Craig and we just rode all day and I just got like shitloads of footage of him. It ended up being like a two, three minute video and I edited to the fucking, what was it called? So high with French Montana. So that song to me just marks a specific day over my last summer in New York City, riding bikes with the homeless. That was a summer. I was in New York City.

and fucking being in New York was real cool for me because people had access to me like Frenchie saw me a few times in the studio and you were like yo yo yo get on this record you know what I'm saying

and I just knew like he was cool with Max B right so I was like you know nobody knew what was gonna happen for him pretty early days of his career yeah but see what he felt like

he felt like people weren't really fucking with him who could make good music and he was honored that I I did that verse for him on so high where I felt like he was looking out for me, like putting me more in the street, you know what I'm saying?

Because I do, like, underground, like, the music I was making wasn't really for his audience. So when he reached out to me to get on the record, I felt like he was helping, like me, you know what I'm saying? And shot a video. I wasn't really being visible. I wasn't shooting videos and shit. He shot video.

They had 150 strippers and the Hamptons. So I'm like Frenchie. Like, fucking thanks, bro. But what happened was when he, fucking blew up every year that he came to New Orleans. Every year he come to Orleans, he fucking reach out, bring me to whatever is going on,

stops whatever event he's doing in the middle of him. Like, yo, this motherfucker was like, like, fucking with me when motherfuckers want to fucking with me. Like, oh, you're so boom, boom, like, damn. He'll just tap in every time and bring you out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or just, you know, hit me about the shit. Like, if I'm out here and shit, I'm out here,

try to tell me to come around and shit. But I'm always doing that shit. You know, I appreciate the invite. But do that much. It must be fun to be that guy where it's another artist show, it's a popin' ass show, and then they say, boom, and everybody in the audience is not expecting to see the person that they did that one collab with one time, and you get to be that guy that just experiences that, boom, rush of excitement.

Now, French always, he always do that shit. He's a hundred, man. That's tight. He's silvers. There's a couple motherfuckers like that I'll always speak on. It's a gang of people that kind of, I didn't really fuck with it. how it was and I didn't really extend no relationship

but motherfucker like him stood out two chains like he always was a hundred I knew him before he was two chains right and he stayed the same like if we fucking hit him for a verse like we'll get that motherfucker back tonight you know what I'm saying he stayed like that

Ross the same way I was actually probably gonna get him on this Alchemist project too he's like such a big artist but he does seem very approachable to that in that like he's on a lot of people's projects. Yeah, no, he stayed live, you know what I'm saying?

Because I think he know what's what? He knows what? He recognized who like, who picked good beats and who's real, you know, who's kind of, anybody who could hold their own and got their own base of people, he acknowledged that because he's a businessman. So he knows fucking with you, you come with one, 200,000 people, wallets that's probably gonna do something.

You know what I'm saying? So he got to fuck with you. You know? That's what that is. That's all in just being true to yourself, you know what I'm saying? Right. You were talking about that summer that you spent in New York. When you look back on that, like, could you ever imagine yourself really living there?

And what's it like being, like, a famous person in that environment for you? It was cool because things were just bubbling from me. So, like, I was just on MTV. Jams. I was fucking, like, like, what you say? Were you hungrier back then? No, no, no, because I like money every year of my life. I mean, like, just hungry for opportunities.

Like, you were chasing money more than that? No. No, I was not hungrier back then. I'm trying to narrative this. I still want, I still want it. I want, no way. If I was hungrier back then, I wouldn't have done everything I had to do today and then make it over here.

Rousa would have gave somebody an excuse, like, oh, I would have missed one thing. You know what I'm saying? Like, I still want everything. you know, fuck that. Because it's going to work. Like, Jim Jones is the same way. Right.

That's somebody else who I admire, like, the way he do shit. Never say, die. Like, dude, just mashing forever. And why not? If it's still working for you and it's going to make money for you, then you got to do it, you know? Right, for sure. That's why, yeah, I think rap needs to treat their veterans more like skateboarding does. As in, I'm still happy to see this dude who's 39 years old do a kickflip.

You see Tony Hart do a 540 or whatever. Like, you're, that's amazing. That's beautiful. And some rappers do get credit for that. And I feel like you're one of them. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It works out if you do it the right way, bro. Like, if you just, like, if you got in doing clown shit, you can't do that forever.

Nobody going to want to see you doing that shit once you get to my age and shit. Like, you stand true. You know, honey, they know what you're bringing. You know what I'm saying? They want to watch you reach, right, reach more levels and get old than just like, damn, I can't wait to see how he moving as an OG because he came in the game as like, like OG, you know what I'm saying? It wasn't doing no fuck shit.

Jada kiss still selling a lot of verses. Yeah, because look, that's what I mean. Yeah. He was staying this when he came in. You know what I'm saying? He never did no crazy shit and his pen was nuts, you know? 100%. Were you bummed when Screech died?

Yo, it fucked me up just because, I didn't know like what I don't know what happened I didn't even look into it because I don't like that death fucks me up I don't really like to look into what happened or how they found you or whatever whatever happened

you know what I'm saying it just stopped because I was kind of struck by how he's like a person who I just didn't think would would die right like that's like that's a big thing as a kid you know that's like not even a human being to me like we just say screech we didn't say Dustin

Diamond. That's his name. You know, that's who died. Screech powers. Like, we're saying screech. You know what I'm saying? So, like, that's why I didn't even feel like he was a person. Like, like, that could happen. Just lusting after Lisa Turtle? Yeah, you know, forever, never, never.

Not being dust and diamond, like, in dying. What happened? Oh, no. Someone will look it up. I feel like Lisa was like my first African-American crush. There's computers, there's wires. Yeah, yeah, we get that. There's a desk and it says news. Right. Can somebody get...

Laura... You can't sit at the news desk if you have no details. No, I'm telling them. No, no, no. I don't want them to pan and find it. Oh, cancer. Oh, shit. Damn.

He did not suffer. He did not have to lie submerged in pain. That's very... That's an intense way to put it, but okay. Yeah, fuck. At least we got the rest of the cast. He was only 44. Isn't that crazy?

Shit happens, though, bro. Yeah. And then when the shit like that, They didn't say what type of cancer. Like, is that even preventative? Right. Like, shit can just happen, bro. It's like a family member who you knew when you were young,

and then you didn't even check in on him for, like, 20 years, and then, boom, he's gone one day, and you're just like, fuck. For sure, for sure. Yeah, but I couldn't call Screech. So it's all right. You probably could have. No. No, you so could have.

Screech intro on the project or something. I mean, that's not going to... Justin Diamond was getting higher than my shit. That probably was cool. He probably was. He was probably going to hire something else. Oh, no, they still got some chicken on this bomb. I was going to roll another one, but this shit still is great.

I respect it. So what are you listening to lately? Oh, these, you know, the stylistics. I just found this group, the Manhattan's. Okay. The Manhattan's, am I losing you? Shit, that's a fucking cut. War.

they still i fuck with a lot of shit they mean um i've been getting into uh like more james brown than i usually listen to i always listen to uh always listen to marvin gay and shit smoky robinson you kind of had like a santa type experience with me because i saw an interview where you were talking about Marvin gay and you were talking about how fucked up he was and i you know Marvin gay is like probably the number one like on drugs yeah he was he was there was a concert Let's get it. Let's stop. Marvin Gay wasn't fucked up.

Like a fucked up person. Right, right, right. Marvin Gay at the Montro in 1980 or 81. He comes out, does the whole little fucking spiel. They have to call his name three times. He comes out, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam to the crowd. The crowd is not there. He's in it.

There's cameras taping him. He's like, whoa, they're over here. He turns around, does the whole fucking thing again. All right, you know what I'm saying? Later on during... Yeah, this shit, this stuff just stuck with me. Later on during the concert, you should watch it. Later on during the concert, he stops it to call ladies from the crowd to dance with.

All right? He's got... And then they bring him two. He's got this guy, Mr. James. Mr. James brings one chick. She's cool. Then he brings another chick. He looks like fucking Bo Derek.

Marvin Gay fucking does a little one-two with the one chick. sends out the way with the Bauderick girl he's all fucking whatever he calls for his boy Mr. James to come grab her take her off to the fucking side Mr. Jane gives him a drink he comes out he's talking again Marvin Gay's like the people in the crowd like

what's in the cup oh don't worry about it I wouldn't be uphill loaded on no shit like that and he just went back into the thing so I'm like yeah Marvin Gay was fucking twisted at the show right yeah that's how you want to perform that's like my number one not fucked up right just you know what I'm saying just a light glaze

so you could slide across the stage. That was just like, as a kid, that was like the number one shit that my mom would play around me. Mom of gay? Yeah. Word. And so I never even would have thought of that.

But then you said that, and I'm like, oh, shit. Well, he was in the industry. That was his energy. You know what I'm saying? So he was high and he was doing this thing. He had his homie fucking take the girl that he wanted to the back.

Like, you look at this concert. Mr. James comes out. He takes this Bauder girl by the hand. Off the stage, the camera's still seeing. And he's like bringing her to the back. Like, you know, you know for sure. Because Marvin Gaye's like, you know what I'm saying? Like, bam, this is it.

We got one for the night. Fucking Mr. James takes her to the back probably. And he's like, yeah, just chill. Eat some fruits. Marvin's got this over here set up on the table. Just kick it to the end of the show. Bango, bango. It was the music industry, man.

Yeah. You know, yeah. Definitely. Fuck, I'm high on stage doing my thing. Marvin Gay was out on stage doing this thing. Right. And he said he wasn't. But he talked about it.

So I was like, ah. Right. Yeah. No, for sure. I mean, it's just weird how I know everything about, like, all the modern hot rappers. It's just kind of like part of my job at a certain point. There's no way too much about them.

But all the music that I like from back of the day, for the most part, I've, like, never really made an attempt to really, like, learn about them as people. So lately I've been doing a lot more of that. I do that. And that's pretty dope, honestly. I just do it because I relate it to myself. You know what I just try, like,

I try to see what they were seeing. I feel like I saw a lot. You know what I'm saying? Just moving from like being with Master P and shit and traveling and running around with cash money and shit. I saw like a lot of the best of everything. You know what I saw the best cause. I saw all that shit.

So I wonder what life was like when motherfuckers were seeing like car vets and shit back in the 70s. Like they had, they were touching that paper. So they were buying the same shit that we buy without money right now, but shit just looked different. Right. Like the best furniture. and neon and shit in the houses and all that shit.

I watch Miami Vice a lot because of that for the same reason, just to see, like, what that Maserati looked like and what Chains County, because people still want the jury and shit, shit, just was a different way, you know? Do you ever read, or you should definitely read, if you haven't, Dapper Dan's book? Nope. It just, like, paints this picture of what it was like at that time,

and there's all these dudes who are, like, newly rich off selling drugs, and they're just coming through and they're all trying to outshine each other and he's the fucking conduit. Dude, he was open 24 hours a day. He would catch little catnaps in the back. Yeah, yeah. It's some crazy shit.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to read it. All that shit, like the stories about all of that shit was out from, you know, it's big, bro. The cars they drove and everything. Everybody was just being there on a superhero with the money, making their sales and the superheroes. That's still what happens right now. You know, it's just social media

and being able to have access to where. with everybody doing in their life so fast, you know, it kind of takes the impact away. It was crazy when like, dude with Butler, with fucking Rich Porter, what got, whatever car he got, people didn't know until they saw him and shit. So it's like, bam, and then by word them out,

people talking about it, then stories get bigger. You're telling somebody else, you make it bigger and bigger and bigger, because it's not really right there, you know? Right now, we can look at the picture. Right now we can appraise it and look up how much that shit was. People do that to me all the time.

I post something that I like and the motherfucker be under the comments like, oh yeah, well, they had those on eBay for fucking 429, so that's not really that big of a deal. Like, yo, what the fuck? I'm happy with the purchase, I mean. Yeah. But that's the way it is.

Like for me on Christmas and shit as a kid, I didn't know like the stuff just appeared. I didn't necessarily know where it was from. His kid, or not him, but my boy, Josh, his kids, they know, that literally all they have to do is go on Amazon to get

anything in the world they want and they know how to talk to Alexa so they know how to find out how much it costs they'll tell mom oh it's only $999 yeah so get it I'm not asking for nothing too crazy and they know how easy it is for them to buy it yeah damn and so all

the mystery and intrig is gone it's gone bro it's gone yeah that's what it is right it's microwave you know that's like it's the gift from the curse bro the more advanced we get technology you know what I'm saying we also kind of overexposed ourselves and like take the mystery away from shit yeah I mean that's the biggest thing as a rapper in this age is how do you make your shit have some longevity and have that

built-in mystique to it and like I think one of the biggest things is just the scarcity of like if you can have a fan base that builds up appetite yeah that's like the most invaluable thing yeah Well, I think originality still is will have carved its way because right now I say a lot of music sounds the same, but what happens is someone will put an innovation on things sounding the same. Like, I'm not big on auto-tuning shit like that, but occasionally somebody will find a way to do it different to where to catch my end.

I'm like, all right, bam. And those people just so happen to be the people who blow, like they won't go away. Like Travis Scott, that sound That's that one go You know what I'm saying The way he does that That shit will last You know what I'm saying

Even if he stopped making music People would always go back to Like this was this was a thing You know what I'm saying That nobody else was doing And if anybody else did it It's sound like that But when you listen to so much

Auto tune there's a point where they all sound When you got to break out of it You know what I'm saying So there's motherfuckers who do it You know what trips me out is like when X died I felt like since he died I've seen so many people basically

like young artists like they try to come for his lane and it does not work and that makes me feel like when he died it was almost like a genre died and honestly I kind of feel the same way about like a little peep and juice world and shit like that

I kind of like I think it's super hard for somebody to come in and fill the shoes once the person who's kind of doing the best job at that style died And they didn't usher nobody else in. They died too young to even have, like, an artist who they're like, oh, this is my, this my guy. Like, this is what I'm fucking with.

So they didn't really bring nobody into where you could feel like, all right, this is who I'm going to fuck with. Like, like, like, I feel like, I'm glad that so many people lend it a hand of Jay Stone with the project that he was, the way he kept matching after Nip died, people were like, you know, all right, I'm going to fuck with it. You know what I'm saying? That was cool. and know these other dudes didn't get a chance to put none of their homes just in the mix you know what I'm saying so that that's it like that whole style died with them you know yeah like the fans aren't stupid like they can tell when they're being sold a subpar version do that you're trying to you're trying to

do that shit nobody want that nobody want that that's why i say it's always room for motherfugglers who making like who who who who writing their lyrics and doing that shit that way because people get tired of that you know always being fed this run, you know? It's always going to be run when you break out. Innovation is the key in any industry. Fucking like cars or anything. You're all going to use the same tools, but you've got to come up with a way, you know,

to make your shit different. Originality is what's going to keep, you know, keep you alive and make your shit last, you know. What is the good life to you? And how much, and what's the difference that you, between what you would say now what you would have said 10, 20 years ago? 20 years ago, I'd have said the good life was like a Lamborghini at the house, a swimming pool, stacks of money, some chains, you know what I'm saying?

Now I know like the good life is like passive income. honestly, there's nothing else because you want to get comfortable and still be making the money like you were working after you found out what real work was. You still want that money, so you got to figure out a way that you can get that money without busting your ass.

So when you figure that out, that's the good life. You know what I'm saying? So it's really about getting down, grinding right now, stacking money to then fund some business ventures, some shit not going to work some of them will work and then you got some fucking passive income coming in

you know and then you could just go through your twilight The thing you said about 20 years ago was like mostly materialistic shit and that just doesn't even come into your mind at all when you think about it now I didn't had shit and gave shit away

you know what I'm saying like I can't believe that I remember like paying for some of the shit that I've given away and like I can't believe it but it's like I don't know I don't know. I don't fucking use that.

Like, you feel like that about that? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, bro. But that's crazy because I probably wouldn't have gave you that dollar amount for whatever the fuck that was, you know what I'm saying? But it ain't shit. Whatever I bought, it really ain't shit. You know what I'm saying?

But here, you know? And I can't get that same money out of it. So you take it. You care so much about it. You know, that's not no real thing. But having some money that's going to constantly come through to take care of everybody. take care of the bills, all the shit that I got, all the material shit that I got

when I gave a fuck about that, being able to maintain it, take care of it, keeping my car collection straight, you know what I'm saying? Oh, that's real. How much has fatherhood, does fatherhood factor into that? Like, does that seem like that's kind of like

the meaning of life to you in a lot of ways now? Yeah, to the point where it's not even, it's not even the thing I would say because it goes without saying. Like, none of, like I say, before none of the shit I have is for me no more. It's all for him. That's why I said maintaining the car collection and shit

because it's kind of like how people take care of their coin collection and they know they're not going to sell it in their lifetime is for them to give it to their grandson or some shit like that. That's how I feel about everything I have. Like everything, every watch I have, everything. It's like I think

about like when he's like asking if he, yo, can I wear this to the dance? Like, can I well as watch, you know what I'm saying? It's like, bro, like, yeah. Do you wish you had had a kid earlier? Nah, because I ain't had that much paper.

You know what I'm saying? And I've seen a lot of my friends go through the struggle and so to the point where they still had to risk their lives on the street and shit and you risking your life when you got a motherfucker that you can't be fucking putting your life in the balance about. And you're putting your shit on the line because you love your child so much. And I didn't see your motherfuckers crash out and get smashed. out there and their kids just fending for their self you know and they've and I've

to the point where I've seen them grow older now I see like and I see how you know how that affected you know what I'm saying I definitely see that shit right yeah I've been there to help shit but there's only so much I could do you know I'm saying so I see the difference bro that shit is crazy right it's crazy but you know that your home boy did the shit he did because of that situation so I always was glad I didn't have a kid at that point like Like, I thought it was cool because I'm like, yo, the older you get, it's cool that you could crack jokes with this motherfucker and it's like that. But, you know, I know a lot of motherfuckers who didn't, it didn't work out like that.

I got maybe two homies who aged with their kid and right now they could crack jokes and motherfuckers moving each other, cars and shit and just doing shit like that. But I know a lot of homies who not here, you know what I'm saying? And their kids just, you know, it's like it's two motherfuckers. It's two people I know. Wow. Yeah, it's two people I know that did it, the right way, that survived, you know what I'm saying? And I know a gang of motherfuckers. Do you ever think you're too used to being rich and that you don't really think about what life could have been like and what life is like for normal people?

I'm used to not having it because I didn't have it the longest. Right. You feel like even until like, even through the time we've known you, you didn't really have it together? Yeah, like, there wasn't no real money. Like, like, it wasn't until like we got like jet life apparel and shit happening. Like now it's not so dependent on on the tour. Like we survived the whole pandemic. Nobody scratched their head once.

We bought cars and fucking kicked it because we had other shit going on. We didn't have to hit the panic button. So now it's like that. If the pandemic happened five, six years ago? It had been fucked up because it's like, yo, we fucking, we bought a Ferrari fucking yesterday and was pretty much banking on throwing. throwing all this money back, not five years ago, 10 years ago, fucking throwing this money back into it or paying for it like that.

We got this and fucking, we didn't pay. We was going to throw this money to them later on, you know, fuck that have been fucked up. So you were just fucking off money on cars way too early? Not fucking it off, but I was trusting the hustle. We're talking about the pandemic. Nobody saw this coming. Right, right. We, like, like, the tour bus was guaranteed money.

So it was no problem to tell Musa fucking, yeah. We want to get that because he's doing the math already. You fucking do shows like nothing, bro. Or you drop tapes like nothing. So fuck it. Go ahead. We'll get it because you have the money already and you're going to get X, Y, Z right back.

Nobody saw this coming. When this happened to people, it fucked them up because they were living like that. That way that I'm saying is not such a strange way of living because everybody was, the money was automatic. And then this shit happened and taught a lot of people a lesson. You know what I'm saying? Like we tightened our belt.

out of respect because it's like, yo, pay attention like this shit happened. We don't know how long this could be. Even though we're straight, it's just fucked up.

People are going to get weird. That's just, you know, just tighten our belts. How many people do you feel like you're responsible for with your career and basically that make your whole career happen?

Like your manager, obviously. Oh, shit, man. It sounds like a bigger operation than I kind of assumed it was. It's bigger in the sense that, each one of the people that I have

entrusted my career too they have like their own outlet so it's the same way that when the fad's watching you and they do that picture and then it breaks off into these trees or underbosses and sub bosses. This motherfuckers I might never

meet. You know what I'm saying? But they're the motherfucker who facilitate this for you and all I did was ask you to do XYZ. I just know X, Y, Z. I just know X, I don't know. Because I always meet a motherfucker that's like trying to like blow the doors off yeah i did the um the certain stuff like for sure you know dude gave it to me though so i don't know what you know what you're talking about you'll get around when you're supposed to get around you know what i'm saying when you look at somebody like bronson

with his tv show that to me is just like you know a pretty genius move obviously he's gone through it with like leaving vice doing on his own i don't know exactly how he views it from a business standpoint but just the idea overall of him marketing himself that way from so early on in his career. Do you look at moves like that and is that the kind of thing that you can see for yourself? Yeah, hell, yeah. I mean, it's what I wish I was doing right now. It's, it's why I'm glad, like, I get opportunities like this for people to see, like, I can complete sentences and shit like that. I mean, yeah, you're, like, good on camera the way he is, you know? I don't know, man. Dude's, like, burnt out, you know what I don't know. He's like, hi. I don't know

if he's going to be punctual. I don't know this, blah, blah, blah. So when I do shit like this, you know, motherfucker know what level I'm coming on. That's just come from me being too cool for school, though. I turned so much shit down forever and ever and ever that people just came up with their own reasons to why I was doing that. They didn't know that I didn't think they were genuine. I didn't think that, you know what I'm saying,

that they really understood why they were calling me to come to the shows. Like, you're just coming because I went to do this. You don't actually know. That's why I never really wanted. to do shit. Like, I know that the music I make is for a certain group of people. So if I really check you out, I'm like, nah, you're not even cool. So how the fuck? You know me. Like, I'm not, I'm not coming to that shit. So I always, I fuck the lot of shit up. You know what I'm

saying? Because of that. I'm sure, like, that's just a real test to me and my manager's friendship. Why, I have to, I don't even say that as my manager, you know what I'm saying, until it's like some business that come around. People just think that's the homie. But then when the motherfucker gave me some paperwork and I'd be, all right, boom, you know what I'm saying? I do that. But that's why, you know? Could you ever imagine your career taking like a Joe Bowden twist

and all of a sudden like music becomes on the back burner compared to you doing something else with your personality? Yeah, if it was something that was natural and cool to do and the bag was bigger than shit, yeah. But the music is fun. to do. And as long as people want me to do it, I will you know. I told both

that, like I said, I kind of mival my shit after dog and what Ross do. But I told them both as I, like, as I was, you know, just reaching my OG status. I'm like, yeah, I'm probably going to get the fuck out of this shit. And they both was like, that's fucking crazy, you know what I'm saying? Like, as long as it's working,

you got to work and you got to do that shit. Right. Yeah, I mean, when you think about Snoop, it's pretty fucking crazy to think how effortlessly he has just glided through his career while just being the coolest motherfucker. Yeah. Well, that's just off being himself. All these kids don't even remember him being the coolest gangster motherfucker.

That's ancient history now, you know? But he was cool the whole time. Exactly. It's the whole reason, like, my mom didn't even know what I really was listening to because she's like, you know what I'm saying? She's like that, but it's like mine, like, they really talk about, they're really talking about they're gonna jack this dude for his dating's and now he's dwelling through the depths

of hell where the rest of his bust-ass home boys dwell but she didn't hear that part wow she just heard do do do do do do do she didn't know that shit even had so he did that shit right yeah he did it right you know so anybody who could do that shit like that man that's

that's the route you hear that song uh who i smoke no it's these kids from florida young and ace and his boys and it's like they use this Vanessa Carlton sample, but the whole song there's like a crazy gang war in Jacksonville. Oh, wait a minute. And it's like

the song sounds great. Wait. But it is evil. I heard it. I heard it on Instagram, but I only heard a few seconds of it and it was groovy as fuck. But I did tune in, I'm like, oh, these are murder rapes. It's murder culture. It's evil. It's crazy. And the other side

he did the same thing. It's murder culture. But we used a... There was music like that in the 90s and shit, too. It's murder culture. But that's what is kind of funny is that a lot of that drill shit just sounds like it's supposed to be evil. Yeah. But like, whenever you come, dudes come with something that sounds bright and cheery or at least like, you know, mainstream, but then they also are doing the evil shit on it, that shit

always blows up. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's the Nelly formula, bro. Do you remember Down Down Baby? Yeah. It's Down Down Baby the street in the range rovers, street sweeper, cocked, ready to let it go. That's one of the ultimate examples. That shit was a big record.

It's about a drive. drive-by shooting. Right. So there you have it, man. Very true. Yeah, that's it. Damn, that's crazy. Huh?

You have me not really thinking about that much. I definitely thought about it a little bit, but I kind of drive-by shooting in the range-roarer. But it's just because it sounded like fucking a nursery rhyme. You didn't even know. Yeah, they shot the whole house up out of a range rover. They didn't even do it in a hokey.

They call stunts. They pulled up clean. I hope we're not. giving them too much game. The street sweeper. They're going to figure out the whole game right there. Nah, dude, I think everybody knows. That's the formula, bro.

That's the formula. It's all right. It's cool, man. For sure. Dress it up. So you're linking with Alchemists tonight out here? Yeah, absolutely. That's my next stop.

Alchemist and Tramaton today. Okay. For sure. Yeah, me and Alchemists are like eight records in. We actually felt like we were finished. But I told them that I wanted to listen to them and then possibly do like three or four more. records and add them to it.

Okay. We got a couple verses back from the people I wanted to. I sent one to Larry June. I sent one in the Stiles P. Trying to get Larry June on here again. We had him back in the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Send one to Jim Jones.

Shit, I'm going to see if whiz out here and see if he pulled up. I probably get whiz on one. I just hit up Jim Jones to do the interview. He said he's down, but he said he don't want to do any drama questions. So I'm going to have to be trick. because I don't know. I'm going to have to figure out where's the line. Start with these.

I'll give them those. Start with these and then you probably can ask them pretty much anything. Yeah. Three was it too, bro. Soften them up. Three was it. Like, there it, there it is. I was going to tell y'all, like a while ago.

And it's almost instantly after I ate the third one. It showed up. Yeah, that's it. I'm into those. Definitely. That's cool. If I get Jim Jones on edibles, Joe Jim Jones

is a stoner. Yeah? Yeah, yeah. Jim Jones wasn't the fucking dooby-duby pot-head stoner wore that Thunder Mifflin.

No, for sure, for sure, for sure. I think Toby was probably on it on Costa Rica. Yeah, for sure. That's what he does. You think he was the Scrant Strangler? Oh, like,

Voldemort, uh-oh. It was Dwight first. You know what I'm saying? If anybody, it was Dwight because he knew he could get away with it. He knows all of that. So he definitely was the scrang strings

and then coming back to work. You ever think about hidden Angela? No, man. She was a dick. I didn't like Angela. But doesn't that kind of make you want to fucker, man? No.

No, because that is of my body. Bitch, you don't get nothing. I don't like you. Like, fuck no. You don't get to go tell nobody. Nothing you did. Nothing. Fuck no. You don't know what my house looked like Nothing.

You never fucked a girl in your life That you kind of were like annoyed by Yeah You kind of like enjoy it more Because you hated her a little bit If a motherfucker did me something If a motherfucker did me something And I say I wasn't gonna fuck on the morning

I did it again Then I'm like alright that's a grudge fuck I'll do that Because it's like All right now I'm not even gonna fuck with you know You know what I'm saying But I've never been like I can't stand you so much

That I'm pulling up Oh here's my head dress Fuck no because, no, no. Fuck, no. I can't even see you in a light. I can't see you like that. I don't see you like that.

And that, like, that shit kills relationships with me. Like, I don't be with fucking, like, an ugly motherfucker, but, like, you do some ugly shit to me, you become ugly. Right. I don't care no more. You can't apologize to me in fucking lingerie or nothing. It's like, because you are now a dude to me. You pissed me off.

You're the one dude I can't punch Like you did some shit I want to punch you you a girl So fuck it you like a dude to me Just fuck it bro We're done Fuck it bro You know it's over with

So no Underrated Underrated transformation Is how Kelly goes From being the most timid Fucking quiet Indian girl To the most bubbly Ridiculous person by the end of the show

Okay well it was sharing drugs with Ryan. You think that helps? Yeah, that's the unseen, the unseen, but definitely understood that she was doing it. I mean, she's doing naked photo shoots in the office for him.

And wearing, like, size twos for no reason. The fucking IT guy had to tell her, like, you're definitely not a size two. I've seen your emails. He saw the pictures that Ryan took of her. You know what I'm saying? And that's definitely from drugs. Like, they came back from their retreat.

and let everybody know they was married and then Ryan was crying a lot and all that shit she was just full of drugs talking I think they couldn't like show her as a heroin addict on TV because it would have been too controversial I think that yeah her family might have been pissed that was her actual family

at the what's it called DeWalee? That was her actual family I knew because I was like those don't look like actors and then I looked it up boom they're not actors that's a real family I like that you did that research

I like that you did that research. I do that too, man. I devote a lot of time into like useless. Like, just like, yeah, I'm going to find out all the footnotes and fun facts about this. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Hell yeah. I know that Creed was in the band and he really played the guitar. And his name is really creed. Like, was really doing that shit. And he's actually Creed. My girl is stressing me right now to go home because we just started watching

the Son of Sam show on Netflix. About the killer? Uh-huh. I never saw it. No, I haven't. It's pretty captivating. I'm pumped about Black Monday with Don Chil and everybody. Do you watch that?

No. It's about the stock market. The first two seasons are the 70s and the 80s. There's a billboard out here right now about season three, and it's in the 90s. What's it called in? I forgot. Black Monday.

Because speaking to him, dude, I just saw a Hotel Rwamong. for the first time. That is depressing as fuck. Yo, I didn't, I didn't see Hotel Rwanda. I walked in at the, at the fucking, at the height of the, the slaughter scenes and shit. And I was like, yeah, I'm cool. Yeah, I don't know what happened.

I just saw that there was no, like, selection about who was getting shot. Right. I was like, damn, like, I don't know what a fuck about nothing. Probably like the most. brutal. To think that it really went down, it's like... Yeah, see, that's the wild shit.

Yeah. That's the wild shit, too. Yeah. Don't fall down that rabbit hole doing that research. I did a bunch of research, and I found out that the fucking Rwandan people are very proud of how far they've come since then. And they've very much rebuilt. Yeah, well, resiliency is something to be... They're doing all right now. Because I was thinking, I'm like, how the fuck do you come back from that?

Well, you have to. How don't you? But like how do you start getting along after that happened? Yeah, for sure. For sure, yeah. But what's actually crazy is I just heard. But you can't do that for ever. Like, you can't do that for ever.

No, and I've seen that. I seen documentary footage of people talking about. You're going to kill themselves out. You're going to kill yourself out. That shit happens. So-and-so and so-and-so live next door and their best friends. And this one's husband killed the other one's husband. And they just get past it because they just live next door.

And it's just, at some point, they got to move on. They're just talking about it like it's whatever. Yeah. Yeah. And crazy. But you know what's really fucked up is I just heard that a million people had to leave their fucking city in the Congo because of active volcanoes. When was this now? Like, right?

Like, yesterday. Oh, that's fucking crazy. Like the volcanoes out there are no fucking joke, dude. Yeah, I look at volcano eruptions on YouTube. My son liked to look at that shit. He's in the volcanoes. Yeah. See, for me, when I was a little kid,

It was all about volcanoes But that is very That's a real destructive thing That's a fucking that's like monster A million people leaving their fucking village Where did they go? That's like Godzilla being real They're just sleeping on other people's couches or what?

That's legit like Godzilla being real That's the same thing bro That's why kids are so obsessed with it Yeah my son is so into that He's into Godzilla And King Adora I watched King of the Monsters because of him I'm pumped about Godzilla

versus King Kong because of him Yeah, I don't have him I don't have him right now But I'm like not watching it It's on Amazon And even though he doesn't know I'm not gonna cheat on him You know what I'm saying

I'm like it's not it's not my month And I'm not gonna watch it I wait till it's my month To have him and put it on you know Right Even though I could definitely rewatch it right In front of him and he wouldn't know Right

But fuck it, I'm keeping it a hundo Yeah Definitely You gotta just figure out What's your volcano What's your thing that's still gives you that child like wonder?

Probably volcanoes. He woke that up in me again. It's still volcanoes? Yeah. Yeah, because it's like Godzilla. Right. Because like dinosaurs, a long time ago,

Trina woke this up to me, the rapper, a long time ago. I don't know. What does she have to say about dinosaurs? Dig it. Dig it. Dig this.

Dig it. Check it out. I'm smoking. Hanging out. Everybody's hanging out. I'm like, man. you think dinosaurs were like as big as buildings you know because I'm like looking at buildings and shit and um she's like I don't even think that we're dinosaurs so I'm like so she's like uh yeah

how could something that big die like how did something wipe them out and they were that big and I was like oh all right and she was like nobody ever found like a complete skeleton it's always like this is over here this is in Wyoming this is such and such a place, and we think that this is where it went and how it fit. You know, she said that. I've seen complete skeletons, but I don't know if they were found complete. Right. You know, but I feel like dinosaurs were here, but I don't have the real, real evidence.

Volcanoes are here right now. There's no denying it. I will liken it to a volcano. Yeah, for sure. They're here right now. I think he's into dinosaurs. He's into volcanoes because of dinosaurs. Right.

All the footage of dinosaurs he sees volcanoes, but that shit is right now still. It's crazy how comfortable I am just allowing Trina to be a dinosaur skeptic. And you to an extent. I will just give you that. I was like, you know what I'm going to do? What I'm going to do? At that point, you know what I'm saying? Like, I got it.

You're right. You're right. Because I don't know. I don't know. The points that you raised, I do not know. I do not know that they found all the bones to one in one spot. I don't know that. So I had to ride with that.

Right now, I'm thinking. Thinking about this, though, how many dinosaurs do you think fell into those volcanoes that are still active right now? I don't know. Do you think any of them? Like, there's so many species of animal that we probably never knew about because they fell into that shit thinking it was just like a mountain. Right. And then it's that shit down in there and it melts their bones to juice. And we never even get to see the fossils.

Never. Yeah. Hell of dinosaurs. T-rexes. Pterodactals flying over the volcano mid eruption, bow, hit them in the sky. They fall into it. They're gone.

They're juice, too. You know what's crazy is when I was a kid? Probably can come. I saw Jurassic Park right when it came out. I didn't realize what that was going to become. Because that shit is like a religion to kids. Yeah, me neither. I still watch part one.

I never saw none of the other ones. I didn't even see part one for like 20 years. There was a fucking promotion at McDonald's. They had cups in a triple cheeseburger. I was down with that. They had the dinosaur that spit on the fucking fat dude who was stealing the eggs on the cup. I thought that was the shit. Okay.

That's that. I remember I jumped once or twice. You know what I'm saying? When I watched that shit, the first Jurassic Park was tight. Your kid's going to become a Jurassic Park junkie. He is. He is already. I have to fast forward to all the dinosaur scenes.

He doesn't give a shit about my. man destroying earth with technology and trying to improve. He doesn't, trying to play God. He doesn't give a fuck about none of that shit. Were you kids like that? You just probably didn't even allow him to fast forward.

He's like sticking his finger in my ear and shit. Like, ah, just making the other. I have to fast forward to the fucking dinosaur parts. He doesn't give a shit about that. Even though this dude is crashing the world out trying to play guy and bring some shit back, you know. Just to prove

to Trina that they once existed. That's what nobody even knows. That was the whole thing. He was trying to show Trina that dinosaurs existed. Definitely. These fucking kids in their Trina worship. They're the worst. I always think like when I look at my kid, I always think there should be a baby

president. Like the first, like why don't the babies rise up and become their own party? man honestly because we we want to exist in the world run by babies because of that honesty but we aren't babies so it's not going to work out right we have to be babies too because we can't benefit from that honesty because we're not we're going to try to take it to our advantage we know how to do that and that's where it won't work we would have to be babies too man right it's really because being a baby is a transitory state.

It's not even like a race or a gender. No, but I know. Okay, check it out. Yeah, I went to the movies to see. I don't know what fuck. These little shits were doing everything. Karate, laboratory experiments, all of this shit as babies.

But it's because once you cross over and you can talk as a person, then you forget all of that good shit that you knew. You're a genius. until you can talk to people. Soon as soon as you say like fucking mama or something, you forget it. You were building rockets and shit right before that, though.

Wow. So that's what they say about the baby. Your baby is super smart right now, just putting it all together. And you're like, doobie, doob, and she's like, why are you doing that? You could definitely talk to me. It's fun to just like hypothesize about

what babies could be capable of. Even though in reality they do nothing. For sure. If it wasn't for you, they would die. For sure. But it's fun to just, like, create these. Process and all of this stuff. And honestly, I think they are.

I think they are to a certain extent, man. The baby geniuses theory, I feel like it might be true. Once the babies can talk, they forget that they knew all of that shit. I kind of got to get it again. Right. That's what happens. I'm at a very specific stage in my kid's development where she wants my phone all the time. but if I take my phone and hide it

or like put in my pocket she still looks for the phone but she doesn't understand that I just put it away right in front of her which is funny because like for a while she wanted the phone but then when the phone wasn't there she didn't want the phone anymore

and pretty soon she's going to realize that I'm just putting it somewhere but for right now it's the biggest mystery in the world right now you know magic that stuff doesn't last for long none of it This is not your first kid

No it's my first one yeah Oh yeah okay So it's mine It's mine too But let me just lay some shit on you None of that last You know magic Like for a week

With stuff like that You're unstoppable You're a warlock for a week So the whole thing is To always stay on top of it Always stay able to mesmerize When I felt like My son has seen all my tricks

I Face-timed him from the other room And I knew that I fucking blew his brains out Because we're watching TV And he's like, Earth I'm like, oh fuck I'm like, you know everything, man So I'm like, all right, I bet you don't know this shit I just fucking just sat the phone right there

stepped out and fucking called myself And he's like, ah! He fucking honed it, he comes out He's looking at me and I screenshot it As he's looking like, fuck her. Like, he's like,

oh man, like that was the crazy shit. But now I'm like trying to think of what else I could do. Right. Yeah, I probably should have saved that one a little bit more,

but. Right. Yeah. You always got to think about shit you could do, bro. That's it. You know,

you got to be able to do backflip. Keep them a captive audience. You got to be a wizard forever. Mm. Yeah. That's tight. That's it. Here I am being the fucking parental expert.

Two years in. I think a lot of people who appreciate it. Two years in, one month on, one month off. and I'm fucking tell them how to do it. I hope I'm not doing too much,

but how is that one month on one month off? It's tough, you know, because, like, when it's not my month, like, I wish it was. But it's also, like, a cool thing because I could throw myself into my work. Because when I got him, I don't want to do shit.

You know what I'm saying? Like, and it's cool because the motherfucker understand that balance. It's like, I get to shut down on work and everybody get it but then when it's on

the engineer don't trip if I want to do like I just did 18 songs they're like the motherfucker can't trip because it's like he didn't get to do it yeah he didn't here to do it

so it's on you know what I'm saying shit respect um anything in particular that they should look out for uh welcome to

Jet Life, Volume 2, Welcome to Jet Life Record is Volume 2. I'm going to try to take a bit of a backseat this time. I was on, a lot of the songs were solo, and a few of the songs featured the artists on Volume 1. And this time, I'm

on the gang of the records, but some of them I'm just doing hooks on. Some of them I have a verse on, you know what I'm saying? But I'm letting everybody else kind of definitely going to more the light, you know what I'm saying? And setting up their day separately solo projects and

it outside of that it's about with me and Alchemists about to finish up this evening and with me and Tramaton finish up later on tonight you know Oh yeah that's that He also produced the bulk of The volume 2

of the Jet Life Recording this project Okay He did, we're 20 records up right now So 14 of those are probably that project Okay I'm saying the bulk of it He did the whole fucking thing Let's go

He's not tripping I'm not troubling. And if I could get a pouch of these, or perhaps leave with this. You could keep it with that one for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm sure they'll send you. And we're probably going to make some pretty good music off these. I could imagine.

Because I don't have to do anything with my fingers, and it's a body high. But I could imagine how producers are going to feel like just, and their fingers are high. That's probably good. That's good beats they're going to make. Yeah, and I'm going to provide that for them. That's cool, man. Appreciate that.

Definitely. Those work. And they taste good. They taste good. It tastes good. 1,000 milligrams. I left them in the car and they melted. Oh, just 100 milligrams a piece, though.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, three of them. That's the secret. Yeah, got to eat three. That's 300 milligrams right now. Math. That should do it. Math.

Andrew Yang. Fucking right. But they melted into a goop in the bag in the car. What did you do? I ate the goop. Yeah, as a one piece. As a one piece? Yeah.

And then. Not the whole bag. It was like two or three. That's what I want to know about. No, no, no. I want this to fucking melt into one thing and you eat it like a bear claw, like a cinnamon roll, and then come in here and just set it up. Melt it down.

Cut the mics on. Put it in a syringe. Shoot that shit up. Cut the lights on and ask pertinent questions and just conduct yourself. We get a spoon. Put something on the spoon, heat it up. I don't really know how they do all that, but something like that. No, I get, no, just sit it on the dashboard.

You know what I'm saying? Let it melt into one. Go to work. Come out. Yeah, let this bitch melt into one and just do the shit, though. Summer Day. Alibus should not be mixed with any kind of controlled substance. Oh, man.

Stay off the pills, buddy. I'm going to, like, put so many controlled substances with this. You kidding me? Like what? I'm the controlled substance king. More weed? Like, I was going to have some champagne. And there's, there's a mug.

There's a, what's this? Root beer? What's in this? mug? Is this beer or root beer? Oh yeah, yeah. Don't miss a alcohol. No, no, no. I can probably go and get shit-faced drunk and they won't interact with this. They're saying, don't drink a mug of root beer.

This is the mug of root beer that Snoopy would always get. I feel like that's soda safe. Why was Snoopy drinking that root beer? It was like at bad times in his life on Charlie Brown. Do you remember? You remember seeing him at a bar with a mug of root beer? What would drive him there? How do you know it was root beer?

It could have been anything. Oh, okay. Yeah. It said Ruby on it But I wonder what drove him to that I'll check that out when I get out Charlie Brown is so underrated Yeah

And because you could only see it for specials It wasn't just on Because it was Saturday It's like Thanksgiving And he's gonna see the great But they did have a regular series as well too Right I never saw it

I liked it because it was sad I saw a 3D version of it It was sad It really made it feel like it was okay To be sad You know like It was real It was always

Overcast Sky and shit just not working out. And that was relatable. That's real, dog. You know? That's cool, bro. But Charlie Brown and fucking Garfield, those were the ones we could only see at for specials.

I didn't know Charlie Brown had a fucking syndicated TV show. I think maybe he had like a 3D version when we were too old to give a shit. But I don't think that that Charlie Brown peanuts crew, like playing the piano and peppermint paddy and shit, they were only around for holidays. Honestly, that shit was kind of designer and your local cable outlet might not have been able to afford it. Maybe they only had it because I was in a night neighborhood. Quite possibly.

Are you sure, man? I think so, man. What's up? I'm sorry. There's no way they wouldn't have made use of that IP. They didn't have that. They didn't have that. When in the 80s and 90s?

It was a local thing. They had a Charlie Brown series, right? Garfield for sure. In what time frame? I watched the Garfield TV series and his kids said it was the last. worst, most boring thing they had ever seen. They thought it was so whack. The movie series.

Look at number of seasons one. Number of episodes 37. I agree. That's not really that much. When? What year was this? Wait, this article is about the 2014 animated series. Yeah, that's bullshit.

2014. 2014. Those dudes back then, that shit was not coming on. It was for specials, man. It was the great pumpkin. The Charlie Brown and Snoopy show. show. When?

Season one title card. Season, they had two seasons in the 80s. Look at that. Why do they only keep it around for that long? That's insane. And it didn't do well? What the fuck? You know what?

Because Charlie Brown was so humdrum, people didn't want to see that every day. People didn't want their kids looking at those gray skies every day. He's mid as fuck. You just be bummed out for Thanksgiving. Charlie never shot shit up. bro that's crazy you never did nothing that was a cool shirt he had and he was like also struggling with his hair i always kind of looked i looked up to uh two pieces yeah i looked up to charlie brown

because he wore the same shirt every day i always thought that was kind of tight i thought pig pin was tight because he stank that fucking i didn't know it was a stink cloud it was just like a cloud like pig pins and shit dragging that blanket around you got that one homie it just stinks cool you know how the homie was stank yeah You, dude, bro. Over the years, I've had that friend. Super nice to this dude, bro. And everybody would tell me, like, he smelled like P.

Oh, my God. Pee. Yeah, it was crazy because I smelled it, too. And I was just like, man, it's like y'all's washing machine. Like, y'all got a wash clothes with the baby clothes. I don't know what goes on over here, you know what I'm saying? But that was it. It was bad.

Honestly, we used to ride BMX with this fucking kid that we called Tookie. And I think it was, he just, at some point, it just became a joke that he looked. looked like a crib and then somehow they started calling him Tookie and that dude's dang terrible I hope he got control of that at some point maybe it was just because he was out riding bikes at that time yeah well you know he might have been riding bikes without deodorant or it might have been the crib it might have been the crib bro I had the one hummy whose house was insane and I was like almost relieved when I went there and figured it out because like Every time he came to kick it, it's like, bro, what the fuck?

This house stank? Yeah, it was nuts. But then we went to his crib to kick it. It was like, oh, so they don't even know. They don't know because they're in here hanging out. You know what I'm saying? Nobody is in here tripping. We ain't that bitch like fucking trying to take short breaths and shit.

Nobody fucking knew though, you know. When I was in seventh grade, there was always this girl, this Indian girl, like, the only Indian girl at school. And I never understood why she smelled way. different and then I went to her crib and her mom was cooking food and then I understood yeah boom yeah house can hold it yeah house will hold it a house will hold it you know what I'm saying you either smell good or smell bad depending on the crib you know what I'm saying they can work out best case scenario is that your house is ventilated enough that you don't end up smelling like the food in your house like that or the best case scenario is that

motherfuckers are using fabuloso and fucking you know burning incense and shit like that in the house man And that works too. Right. Opening the patio door and shit, you know. I had this girl I used to kick it with. And one time she was about to come over and she's like, I have to go home and shower. I'm like, why do you have to go home and shower? She's like, I just ate Korean barbecue.

And I'm like, what the fuck? Like, what are you talking about? Like, just come over. Yeah. She came over? She smelled like Korean barbecue. Like a muzzle. She was not joking.

She was there. It got in her hair and her clothes. It's in her skin. They cook it right in front. So it infects everything about you. You should have to take that fucking shot, man. I should have, honestly. She was the one in the car talking to you.

She knew that she was having a tough time riding with herself, and she would go out to bring that shit to your house. I wasn't mad, though. Yeah, I can dig it. I dig it, but you definitely witnessed it. She tried to spare you. Shout out to all the girls smell like Korean barbecue. Because it happened.

It stuck with you. And she tried to spare you. She made a dent. That's her brand. Huh? That's her brand. She's... Pull up stanking like Korean barbecue.

I thought her brand was Korean, but I thought she opened the Korean barbecue place. I don't know if she's still doing this move, but it's a move. I thought she was a purveyor of Korea. It's like your brand. Like when you show up and you stank like weed, which admittedly, like, I didn't notice because our place already smells like weed. Yeah, but that's what I'm supposed to do. Yeah, come on. It's my products.

Bro, I had to go to court in Compton, and we pull up in the line, the long-ass COVID line to get in with me and my homie and everybody in line just talking to us about wheat. because we just pulled up stanking. Yeah. And that was like... That's what happens. That's nice. I like that. I appreciate the bringing that to the function.

All right, currency. I appreciate you, man. Good times. This was a good time, bro. For show, man. The good time. And thanks for the 2020. Of course.

These were fucking incredible. And I get the rollout with them. I hope we get you... You got so many packs of papers, but just roll a joint. Roll a joint. Soon. I'll stuff a few cones for you to just keep...

My fingers are too fat. Can't manipulate it. Shit is excuse, man. I was on spliffs for a while. Nah, I'm about to roll up. Alchemists do that shit, too. He put cigarettes in them. Yeah, no, I can't have those around.

That's what you were doing? No, I would have a bag of loose tobacco. I couldn't have the cigarettes because I would just start smoking them and I'll get addicted. Yeah. He's so boosy. No jumper. Coolest podcast for the world.

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