No Jumper - The Daboii Interview: SOB X RBE Break Up, Responds to Swamp Storiez, Cryptocurrency & More

Episode Date: November 12, 2021

Daboii finally made his way to No Jumper! He talks about everything from his come up in the Bay, group break up, always staying positive, work process, fatherhood, Drakeo, Durk, Remble and much more! ...https://www.instagram.com/_daboii_/ https://twitter.com/daboii___ ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today we got an icon in the business. The boy is in the building. Yes, sir. How you feeling, man? Good. What about yourself, gangster? Feeling pretty good, you know, got a blonde hair, just living life.
Starting point is 00:00:15 Going crazy, got your little dirt on. Exactly, man. I feel like this is an interview that we should have made it happen a long time ago, but I'm glad that we're getting it in at some point regardless. Hey, when your IG was deleted. I know. We started talking on a hair. I was talking to you.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was me. It might be fake Adam. This ain't the real Adam. I got my Instagram to leave. I made a backup page. Immediately, all of a sudden, we're having a conversation. And then I think I followed you yesterday, and I'm not sure if you followed me back, but I'm waiting to see if my clout can go up.
Starting point is 00:00:45 I'm going to fuck with you. It's all right. Take your time, feel me out. Decide if you think I'm worth a follower. If I'm a little too culture of vultory, you know. Hell, no, you know I fucks with you. I've been trying to get this in for years, my nigger. For real?
Starting point is 00:00:58 Yeah. Yeah. It's funny because, like, I feel like you do so many interviews where they, like, it's about the politics and the group breakup and all that. But, I mean, we really fuck with your music. Like, a lot of my guys, like Trev and shit, they just be bumping your shit. I fucking Treve heavy. I always be tapping in my nigga Trev.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Yeah, he's always playing your shit in here. So I got all kinds of Bay Area shit that I'm exposed to that I might not be otherwise. Okay, okay. You been getting a lot of Bay Area interviews in, too. That's a good look for the Bay. Offset gym, man. He's going crazy. That's a hard one, right?
Starting point is 00:01:27 He's going crazy. He's up there. I ain't gonna lie. Appreciate that. That's good. You want him to ones. See? I like a rapper who can be honest. A lot of rappers don't want to, like, big up other people because they feel like they're competing with them, you know? I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Like, if my ops going crazy, I say them niggas going crazy, for real. I ain't gonna lie. I get niggas, like, you feel, me. That's one thing you can't do. You can't not give a nigga as flowers. Like, you feel me? That's the more hate me. I don't hate, like, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:01:51 We'd be apps, the whole thing. You're going crazy. I salute you, but you feel me, it's still that. You feel me? but you're going crazy though. Right. Did you feel like at a certain point people counted you out and felt like you weren't
Starting point is 00:02:01 going to be a factor anymore and that kind of made you want to go harder and really make the music better? Or were you not even tuned in to that sort of criticism at a certain point? Shit, like I wasn't really tripping for real. Like, to be honest, I wouldn't really paying attention about that shit for real.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I was doing me for real. Like, I knew like I was making music for like the first three years. Like when niggas first start making shit, that shit just start taking off. Like, niggas ain't get a chance to grind it out so niggas ain't know what was going right and what was going wrong. So I'm trying hell of different shit and the different shit I'm doing that you feel me, that shit going wrong.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Like you feel me, that shit wasn't up there as the shit the nigger was putting out before, you feel me? So a nigger had to, I don't blame him. Like you feel me, my music like like 17 to 19 like my solo shit. Like even my verses on the. groups that on. Some of that shit was cool, but I felt like a lot of that shit wasn't him for like, nigga had to find itself anyway. Like, niggas then fell back to the bottom. We was already at the top. When you're at the top, you can't do shit, but go to the bottom. We
Starting point is 00:03:10 weren't at the bottom. We never started off from the bottom with this rap shit. Because from super early on, there was like so many people that were enthusiastic and they wanted you guys to be the face of Northern California's street music, right? Put us at the top. We like, damn, we're way We're looking down at the bottom. We don't even know we're doing up here. You feel, we're young niggas. We're going through hell of life situations. We don't know how to block that shit out with the music
Starting point is 00:03:34 and just keep shit business like it's hell of shit. Like, niggas had a lot of growing up to do. Right. For real, like, with this music shit now, like, I love this shit way more than I did before. Like, before, I ain't gonna lie. That shit was really feeling like a job, like 9 to 5. Like, you just think about quitting hellish shit.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Like, really. I like, I love that shit now, though. Because you didn't really have a perspective of it, Because like you hadn't really seen what it was like to just have like a normal ass life. It was more like, oh, you're kind of taking it for granted? I'm still growing up. I'm 18. Motherfuckers treat me like, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:04:06 You feel me? Like, I'm still growing up. I ain't get a chance to grow up yet, you feel? I always feel like it's like that with rappers who, you know, if you even get on at like 22, 23 and you had a shitty job or you were like running a shitty little drug selling business for a while and you see how hard being in the, you know. an adult is, if you're not rich and famous, basically. But a lot of rappers, they get all that shit so early on that they don't get to see
Starting point is 00:04:32 what life is really like. So then they start really getting money and they kind of take it for granted, you know? Hell yeah. And like, I'm young and motherfuckers looking at me at a certain way expecting certain shit from me. I'm hell of young. Like, you feel me? That shit fucked the nigga up mentally. Like, it took me a minute to know who was really for me.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Like, you feel me? Like, I started making a lot of friends after the music shit. Like, you feel me? I had to sit down, you feel me, think a little bit, like, uh, pick, you feel me, who really, you feel me, like, stick to you, I had to stick to, I had to stick to my soul for real, like, right. Nika had to do a little meditating. What to me going to say, ain't nothing but a little bit of straightening.
Starting point is 00:05:09 A little straightening. A little straightening, that's all. Yeah, for sure. But was it also a factor that, like, a lot of your fans basically wanted you to be more street, wanted you guys to politet, to disc rappers, et cetera? Like was that kind of like an influence or a factor? Yeah, nah, we was just being us for real. Like that's our style.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Like we just get in, we just talk shit. Like you feel me, niggas ain't really had no substance with this shit for real, like I ain't called, yeah, niggas ain't really had no substance with our music, like we just got on the mic and just start talking shit, like, you feel me? But it's four niggas, we all putting that shit together that you feel like that shit sound like a masterpiece
Starting point is 00:05:48 when there's hell of niggas on that bitch and we all, you feel me coming with different styles and shit. Right. I ain't gonna lie. That's just how niggas was. To this day, I don't be, I don't really be, I have, I had a little bit more substance nowadays, you feel me, a nigga older. But I still get in, just, you feel me, I just be talking shit, like I'd be everywhere. Right. I ain't gonna lie. Like, I feel like it's kind of crazy because around, like, I probably got exposed to you guys at first through you guys doing music with Shoreline, which might be kind of weird because you were out doing shit for a while before that. But it's pretty crazy because I kind of felt like that was the same time period. And for ever. LA, you had Shoreline blowing up and being like a real crew of young rappers from the city. And then you guys were like the Northern California version of that at the same time. And they were so careful.
Starting point is 00:06:34 And then you fast forward a couple years and both groups sort of broke up and didn't really get to, you know, really realize the thing that they were working on. Yeah, everybody, you feel me? It's beautiful, though, because everybody, they own men now. Like, everybody got their own motion. Like them two niggas, they got their own motion. Like, you feel me? Our niggins, you feel like me, our sot that we all fuck with no more. Like, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:06:58 They still got their little motion. Like, you feel me? It's enough money for everybody out here to eat, you, feel me? Like, niggas just got grind that shit out. Right. That we all could be at the top of this shit, like, options or not, for real. Like, still be at the top of this shit. You got a good attitude about it.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Yeah, my mistake. But you're able to have a good attitude because you're kind of doing well right now. You feel like you're optimistic about. about your solo career. I had that same attitude if I was doing bad. You gotta put good energy in the world to get it back, you feel me? Niggas part is negativity out there when they down.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Like, that's gonna bring him up. Like, you feel me? That's she ain't gonna do nothing. That's gonna keep your ass down. They ain't gonna make nobody gonna fuck with you. That's true. Nobody likes a salty person. Hell not.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Mm, facts. So you wanna tell us a little bit about your, like, early days and the come up, like just for people who aren't totally familiar, where you were raised and all that? Hey, nigger from Valia. Bitch, I'm from Valia. I mean, shit, like, what you mean?
Starting point is 00:07:58 Like, on the come up, like, on some music, see? Nah, before all that, like, tell me a little bit about your upbringing and everything, because so many people are caught up in, like, all the shit about you guys. Let's go back and do a little bit of the early days. Yeah, okay. So, see, me, my family really from Oakland,
Starting point is 00:08:14 like, my mom and my pop stay from Oakland. Okay. So when I'm born, like, I probably lived in Oakland until I was like probably like two, three. But I don't, I don't even remember standing out there for real. Like, this is my mind to him. I grew up in Valia.
Starting point is 00:08:30 That's what, because that's where they moved me. Like, they grew up, they grew up in Oakland. They, you feel me, they got whatever they got going on. Like, you feel me, they seen whatever they seen. They don't something, you feel me, trying to get their baby boy away from Oakland. Right. I don't think, I think when I moved to the V,
Starting point is 00:08:44 I don't think the V was that bad at the time. So a lot of motherfuckers think, a lot of motherfuckers think, a lot of motherfuckers from Oakland thing going to the v like that's tucked off like you feel me that good now like but it's still a lot of shady shit going on yeah they still motherfuckers still be like that to this day like motherfuckers from rich me be coming out there like it'd be hell this shit going on for real right what's i gonna say so i'm out there i'm really like the only motherfucker from my family from valille like my whole family like most of my family from oakland and the other side my family from texas and i got a lot of family from
Starting point is 00:09:17 indiana and shit let's say you're 40 years old and you want to raised your kid. Are you picking Oakland or you picking Vallejo? Neither. I got to pick one, though. Palo Alto? I got to pick one. Yeah. Even though, gang. Raise my son. Right. I don't know. If you wanted to keep him out of the bullshit. I don't know, gang. I mean, shit, it's Oakland bigger. Like, you could probably be a little tucked off more in Oakland. Like, Laleo too small. Like, it's like, well, like, five freeway exits in Valaya,
Starting point is 00:09:55 You're done. Like, you're already in the next city for her. Right. In Oakland, I'll probably go somewhere tucked off to where a motherfucker can't even get to me at. Like, they got some nice shit out there, but it still ain't sweet, though. You still got a grocery shot, you feel me, son, got to go to school. Hell of shit. But, like, I could probably get them into, like, a good school out there.
Starting point is 00:10:13 But it ain't going to be too good because, like, everybody be on the same shit. Like, I'm going to still be out here, but I'm just make bread go to the tug. You feel me, a good school. Like, it's going to be thugs at the good schools, too, for real. Yeah. I probably pick Okina over Valo, because that nigga, he, like, there's a lot of shit going on to be, like, especially being my son. Hell now, like, he'll be dealing with a lot of more shit.
Starting point is 00:10:40 But so your parents move you there, and they think that it's going to be a safer upbringing than Oakland, and at what point does it start to become clear that this is a wild place as well? shit uh it I start seeing it that bitch started getting wild
Starting point is 00:11:00 when I was like when I was like six for but when I start getting wild though my mind she started probably seeing me changing at like like 12, 13
Starting point is 00:11:14 like 1213 for a like I was disrespecting it like doing a little shit like she ain't had no control of me for her. That's when she started seeing that shit. She's been threatening to move me out that motherfucker for years. She finally moved the nigga out like right when I turned 16 for her. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:32 But yeah, though, nigga, she starts seeing that shit and I was like 12, 13. Like, I was doing a little wild shit. Getting calls from school. This nigga not here. She's dropping. She's making show she dropped me off early. What were you doing? Were you clicked up with actual people or were you just doing like young boys wild?
Starting point is 00:11:49 I was just doing whatever. Like, just on some, I was really on some young niggins shit. Like, I go to a PE class, go hoop or something, you feel me. Or go fuck with my niggins see what them niggies on their class, you feel me. At the high and at that, at that, when I went to Valle Middle, like, I don't know, like, I used to have it good with so many teachers. Like, I could just go in and chill in their class.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Like, you feel me, do whatever, like, you feel me? Right. Like, when I moved, though, it wasn't none of that going on. Like, that shit was. Where'd they move you too when you were 17 or 16? I moved up Benicia. Okay. That shit had me on point.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Like when I first moved there, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't doing no work for a whole year. They put my dumb ass in summer school. I ain't never had summer school. Really? Hell yeah. That's a nicer area, I'm guessing? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Okay. That shit like, probably like five, ten minutes from the V, but it ain't the V though. Had you been arrested and shit at that point? Like, did your parents have a lot to worry about? Hell no. I was always smooth with the police until I started, you feel, me, driving my own whips and shit. You're getting a little reckless, having too much freedom in leeway, you feel me. That's when I start moving sloppy a little bit.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I ain't going to lie. But yeah, what was I going to say? Nigger graduated and shit from over there. Right. Did this thing. You rapping in high school and shit or does it come after? I was playing in high school. Like, what was I done?
Starting point is 00:13:08 Like, we used to do little cat shit, like play beats. You know, like regular little cat shit play little instrumentals with your potter's rap on you, you feel me? But nigs used to tell me, like, bro, you should really fuck around and rap for it. I just be playing like you feel me but I was saying shit off the dome like right just playing though just loaded though and whatever came to my head I just say that shit always talking shit though no substance yeah your lyrics are clever enough that like that's one of the main things I like is that I could just be listening to it and you just say some funny shit some surprising shit some like off the wall shit but like the flow is really good but I actually totally agree with what you were saying before when you were saying that the like the flow was kind of like not as smooth and shit and you just got way better with it over the years. Hell no, it wasn't small. That bitch wasn't small, though, because I was writing.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And, like, when I wrote, like, I tried to keep, like, my same tempo, my same whoo-through-woo with my voice. I ain't like to punch in. So I say one way, and then I try to punch in again, it sound different. So I try to say, like, the whole 16 at the same time. And, like, a couple bars would be sloppy, but if you, you feel, me, the tone right enough for me, I'll be like, fuck, that's a go. you feel right but now niggas just i just punch in for a niggas just freestyling whatever kind of my head i say that bitch and it's easier because when you're just saying one bar you can ride that one part of the beat perfectly yeah you punch in you're gonna do the next part of the beat perfectly like you
Starting point is 00:14:35 feel because i've i've had producers like kind of show me like there's a rapper producer showed me that he always wraps like his whole verse straight through and that he asked him to record like punched in and he actually sounded way different and in my opinion way better because he had like he had his voice more you know like his voice was fully available to him on each bar and he's able to sort of like you know really fit it in and make it perfect whereas if you just rap into the beat it's always going to be a little bit less perfect yeah yeah niggas be high hellish shit like me you ain't fin a ride that exact part like perfect every time let you it's some niggis that really got that shit though that can but me personally nah i'd rather just punch in for
Starting point is 00:15:17 Right. Found my pocket sticking to it. How long as it take you to make a song on average? Oh shit, it really depends on the beat. Like, if it's one of the ones, I could just, you feel me. If I think of a quick-ass hook, I could go, I could take anywhere from like, like, 15 minutes to like an hour for, really depend on the beat, though, for some time beat, be giving a nigga a little exercise, you feel me, and I ain't even approaching it with my main style, so I'm fucking. fucking around with it, you feel,
Starting point is 00:15:49 trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together. Right. On some quick shit, though. Like, if I'm really fucking with that bitch, I'm in like 20 minutes for a- Right. Do you, what's the environment, like, in the studio at this point? I assume you guys used to be on some crazy deep gang shit
Starting point is 00:16:04 when you were in the studio, but are you still on that? We used to be in there, we used to not be, because we used to really be on some, like, hell no, we on some business shit, like we working for it. Okay. Now though, I don't give a fuck. Like we be gang, we be in that bitch deep. Like, it'd be a party, like, you feel him?
Starting point is 00:16:22 You don't got a home studio? You got, like, a separate studio you go to and you just trap it out? I go. I go anywhere. Anywhere I could get in. I don't got my own studio, though. That's the go, though. I'm getting my own studio.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Just in the crib? Yeah, I don't know where I want that bitch at, though. I don't know if I want that bitch like back at home. She, I don't know if I want to move. Like, you feel me? I got to figure out where I want to live at first and then whatever makes sense. But I'm going to have my own studio about 20-22 for a show. But right now,
Starting point is 00:16:47 I'm anywhere I could get in. What are you torn between, like, just enjoying being around the environment you grew up in and the idea of just being sort of away from everything and just being able to be totally at peace? Man, I ain't gonna lie. I'm around the environment I grew up in, but it's like my son getting, oh, I don't want that nigga to grow up in. I'm only out there because, like, I'm from out there.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I'm connected to everything. You feel me? Everything, one phone call away. Right. If I go anywhere else, you feel you, family? It's like I'm starting from me. ground up for real like you feel me I gotta figure out where everything at where
Starting point is 00:17:21 everybody do who I call for this like you feel you think you'd go crazy if you were just in Calabasas in a fucking house mansion type thing with you know you walk outside you got white neighbors or like you just don't even see them they stay in the crib it's just boring in comparison
Starting point is 00:17:36 I ain't never I don't know I might because I lived I lived in Glendale before Ooh okay I lived in Glendale before and I was not out here going crazy. I ain't gonna lie. All that shit made me want to do is go back home and I took my ass right back home. Really? But like I ain't never felt with the rap shit how I feel about this shit now. So I probably be out here
Starting point is 00:18:00 focus going crazy as I thought I was when I was a little younger. You feel me? I probably did it too fast. Like I'm probably ready for that shit now. Yeah, you got the house. You got a few of your homies staying with you. You have girls come over. You smoke weed. You make music in the house. You never need to leave. You order post-made. You order post-made. It's a movie. Movie. That's the fucking American rapper dream now. Yeah, I can't live all like that, though.
Starting point is 00:18:24 That's a movie, you feel me. That's a... I be seeing niggas living like that. Hey, old niggas too. I ain't gonna say I'm on matured, but like, man, I'm me. That's what I'm gonna say, like. And I got my little female, you feel me, I got my son. You feel like me?
Starting point is 00:18:41 I like living like that. Fair. Like that shit, like I can't live like that every day. I was already doing that when we was. young. Like, we was going to each other houses. And niggas was having a house to the next. We was throwing our own little wuthy wolves. Like, you feel? We was already doing that. So, I
Starting point is 00:18:55 just got tired of that when I was, like, 21. So you feel me? I still feel like, you feel like? I didn't I'm still doing it, but I ain't been on that shit for, like, I ain't been on that shit for probably like two years. Now that I really got the girl and the kid in the house, it's like, and especially, bro, what really fucked it up
Starting point is 00:19:11 was the pandemic, because then you had like many months where there was basically nothing going on. And then people start going out but then my girl's like super pregnant so i had like a good year and a half where i barely went out there wasn't even that much temptation to go out you know so it was so easy to just get into this like old man lifestyle and and just now i'm like really starting to actually go out and do more shit more consistently you know everything open but they they're tripping now you either got to have like a test from like a couple days ago to eat some places or go anywhere or you got to be vaccinated
Starting point is 00:19:45 I bet you seem like the kind of guy would be selling fake vaccine cards. Hell nah. Shit, I need one. No shit. They ain't trying to let a nigga in nowhere in this bitch. Hey, man, I'm big vaccinated out here. I encourage everybody out there. Get the jab.
Starting point is 00:19:58 We got Crip Mac. He got it. He's still living. He ain't turned into a Martian yet. Yeah, I just keep wearing a mask. They figure out some shit. Fuck it. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Okay. So, yeah, okay. Has fatherhood changed you at this point? Like, is that changing everything for you? Is that making you more focused? Yeah, yeah. I was still outside before I was a father for real. Like, right.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Niggas still be outside, but like, you feel me, I show up and then I show out, like, you feel me, I get up out of there, like, I ain't out there like how I was. Like, I was out there, like, I was just out there just to be out there, thugging, like, right. Our niggas was going to go, everything. Like, niggas, that's just where I was most comfortable at first. Your time just seems a lot less precious.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Like you could just kick it all day and it's all good. And once you have a kid, you really start thinking about. We was going on like month and two tours. Like, you feel me? So as soon as we come off that, niggas want to go straight home to you, feel, me, where to love it. That's all that shit was. Like, we was young.
Starting point is 00:20:58 We was saying hell of fake shit. Like, you feel me, niggas fuck on niggas rap. Like, hell a little fake shit. All that shit made niggas want to do is just be home. Really? So you got sick of that industry shit? Yeah, yeah. But it opened a lot of doors for you, right?
Starting point is 00:21:11 You opened a lot of doors, but nigg not sick. I was sick if I was young I understand it but now I understand it I understand it and I know how to control this shit
Starting point is 00:21:21 for real like I'm interesting I ain't gonna say control the industry like control my you feel
Starting point is 00:21:27 me like my emotions with this shit for real like like if a nigga wanna fuck with me just cause this wooed
Starting point is 00:21:34 woooooooo like that's good like you feel me this nigga my hat you feel me something I can fuck with
Starting point is 00:21:39 future you feel me yeah because I have that I have that situation
Starting point is 00:21:45 unfolding in front of my eyes all the time where you sort of realize that there's like people I know who are like trying to go to the club with some rich dude or like they got like some dude that is like a total fucking geek but they're cool to him because he's rich and he'd be like renting mansions and doing all this cool shit and like I've never been like that kind of person like I could never handle being around somebody for fucking five minutes if I was like using them because it just doesn't like it doesn't seem worth it for me to be miserable having to listen to the stupid shit coming out of your mouth for me to, like, get something out of you. But then you start realizing that's kind of like, that's like a business for a lot of people
Starting point is 00:22:22 is that they're just nice to everybody, even if they're the worst. Hell yeah, because that's how they make money. Look, though, when I was a young nigga, I ain't going to lie. Like, I cut off, like, all my nerd partners, like, that wasn't on no street shit. I felt like I needed everybody around me that was on the same type of time as me. When I did that, and I had everybody that was on the same type of time as me, and my life was hell, like, you feel me, it wasn't no positivity. Like, you know, that shit made.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Once I got older, I started, I start realizing, like, I ain't, I'll start kicking him with my family or something. A little more woo through a woo. My son made me realize. Hell of shit. Like, you'd be fucking with all my little old partners that ain't that don't be on that street. You feel, me. I'll go kick it with them.
Starting point is 00:23:03 We ain't doing shit. He's just cracking up and shit the whole time. That shit be feeling good for real. Especially after you start getting famous, then you start to take your actual friends from back of the day. It seems a lot more important. because you feel like you can't trust the new people you mean. I go kicking with these niggas.
Starting point is 00:23:16 We don't even talk about rap. Like that shit be regularly. They treat me regularly. Like you feel me, same as back in the day. It should be all love. Like anybody from where you're from, if you meet them,
Starting point is 00:23:25 you never get to be just a regular guy ever again. You always are going to be somebody that they're looking at. Like, you have value. Like, oh, if I get a song with him, I want to be hot. If he co-signs me, if he puts me on his Instagram, that's going to be good for me. And they don't be on none of that shit.
Starting point is 00:23:39 They don't be on no. Hey, tag me on. You feel me? Give me a shout out. No, none of that. You feel him? You just kicking it. 100%.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Well, but look, this is another thing I was gonna say. Oh, right. I got a nigga. I got a nigga that look like a nerd. Like, you feel, me? You wouldn't know average thud. Like, you feel me, you're bothered to fuck with this nigga, like talk to this nigga and none.
Starting point is 00:23:59 This nigga, look. I ain't gonna put 20 on 10. He, like, you nerd, though. And that nigga showed me, he up like almost a million off stocks, and he dressed like, Like, like, he ain't, he's dressed. Like, he don't give him a fuck.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Like, you feel him? Like, you wouldn't even thank this nigga up like that. Like, that's typing a lot like having around. Like, niggas that can teach me, son, you feel me? Right. I noticed that you got an entrepreneurial side to you because you got, you were talking about Shiba coin on your Instagram story. I'm like, okay, he's in the crypto world.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Interesting. Yeah, I'd be trying to be, you feel, me getting my little free game to where I could get it, put my little two cents together, you, you feel? Okay. Word. They're saying word on the shit. street that bitch supposed to end like
Starting point is 00:24:42 like two, three months. Right. But my stock man's though, he's telling me like, yeah, he's like, it might hit like two, three months for sure but when it do, like, take that shit out. Like he said, he was saying like, that ain't
Starting point is 00:24:56 like no long term stock. That nigga, he'd be having me invest in like long term shit. Like shit I could just invest in. I don't got to look at my phone for like a year or two. You got a Bitcoin and Ethereum and shit as well? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:07 And you heard of chain link? No. Got to fuck with that. Okay. He told me that bitch fin of reach his all-time high. Really? Interesting. There's a lot of them out there these days. I got this one YouTube channel that I've been trying to watch more and more. It's basically like academics for crypto, or it's just like hella, like news and like updates about all the different shit.
Starting point is 00:25:25 I feel like I've been learning so much from that shit. Yeah, I probably got to fuck with that shit. My little dumb ass, like, I ain't going to look at them videos and try to learn myself. Like, I'd rather have a nigga in my ear and tell me so I could dumb it down from me. Like in the videos, I'd be having a. rewind them bitches niggas be using big ass words and shit you feel me my stock man's he ain't talking to me like that that's why it's exhausting to watch that shit because i will like if i'm gonna watch shit about crypto i won't let myself just coast by the things i don't know about
Starting point is 00:25:53 it's like if he uses a word that i don't know or starts talking about something i don't know i have to pause the video and google it which is a fucking nightmare because then i'm 10 minutes straight of me just reading some long-ass article trying to figure out what the fuck they're talking about but you know it's very it's very good and it's like the rappers like like like You have part of the equation. Like you have the promotional ability and the fact that people want to fuck with rappers. And then, you know, a lot of these crypto companies and people doing stuff online, they need eyeballs on their shit, period. So if they have somebody like you able to offer like visibility to them, then that could be really good for both of you.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Yeah. Yeah. I'm fucking with crypto. I don't know why. That sounded really cool. Fucking with crypto. One big change since you guys came out is that the, whole world of like people making videos explaining street shit and explaining rapper shit has
Starting point is 00:26:46 blown the fuck up and you guys are like one of the biggest targets of that where people just love to tell the story of SOBRB. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie like some of that shit be false but a lot of that shit do be true for real. Like right a lot of that shit be false though like and like the only shit the only reason like they just they just put two and two together like all that shit be on the internet for real like that's what that shit be like they gonna put what they know on the internet right but the really good shit probably isn't online right i ain't gonna lie the streets is cracking every day like you feel me like y'all know what motherfuckers gonna put out on the internet motherfuckers putting out a little bit of nothing like you feel me that type of shit we're gonna
Starting point is 00:27:30 look and we're gonna laugh at like that shit it'd be all that shit a lot of shit don't be true they say nigger did this they say this is who this like it'd be hell a little false info like Right. I don't give a fuck about that shit. He's just gonna keep winning, like, you feel him? You never get pissed off when there's, like, a false narrative out there about you, and you look at it and it's got, like, hundreds of thousands of views. I mean, shit, if you really want to know about me, like, you could put two,
Starting point is 00:27:53 you could watch my interviews and you could put two and two together. Like, I talk about my life. Like, you could take this info from some dork from Idaho. Like, you feel me? Like, I ain't gonna say, I probably got love in Idaho. Shout out to Idaho, you feel, me. But whatever the nigger front, like, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't. get no info in the streets from a nigga that ain't never been in the streets you
Starting point is 00:28:13 feel you feel like he might pull us some shit you see on the internet or who's to who that's for anybody to pull up he's just putting two the two together tight shit like that's but it's kind of a cheat code because like i was about to click one of your interviews before that it's just to be like oh let me get a little refresher remind uh myself what this dude's all about and everything and then i realized i could just watch a two-part swamp stories video series where they explained it all and all of a sudden i got like all the background just sort of summed up in a nice little 15 minute package yeah that shit sound good like they say it sounds good yeah like all that shit like the way he cut entertaining like for real like you
Starting point is 00:28:54 feel me so whatever he's saying like he was really fucking with your music though too i ain't gonna lie like like i i'm watching other niggas swam stories for real like whoo-do-woo like i'm i'm knowing that shit. I'm knowing some of that shit true and some of that shit ain't like I got niggas that's in a swine story calling me about that shit like you seen that shit yeah nigga wild like emmese don't know nothing like eh just you fam right can't defeat the internet let the internet be the internet and I got niggas that's any other swan stories they calling me like yeah like who the fuck is this guy yeah like you feel me like I mean shit internet gonna be the internet like right shit shit entertainment for but he he said that he would maybe do a face reveal on no jumper do you think that he should
Starting point is 00:29:36 keep his identity secret, like you think he might be in danger? I'm gonna let that nigga figure it out. But you're not personally mad at him or anything. Nah, I ain't mad at that nigga. Yeah. That little nigger. But I actually, I was watching his shit, and he was... He was basically saying that other people that were in, SOBRB's music is fucking garbage now.
Starting point is 00:30:00 And that made me actually really want to go check it out and see if I agreed with him or not. See that. My nigga Slimmy going crazy. Okay. I don't know what other bro, to be honest. No. He drops a new music video. You're not really that interested?
Starting point is 00:30:16 Mm-mm. I don't even know dude like that. Really? You know a dude like that? No, I don't think so. No dude like that. Right. But you're not like beefing anymore.
Starting point is 00:30:25 You're trying to let it go. It's just, it's not cool. You're not polite to each other? Beefing. I don't got no beef. I eat chicken. I don't eat chicken. I don't like beef.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I fuck with both. I don't need like beef. Sometimes I'm in a beef mood. Nah, I'm a chicken. Mm. Fuck with the seafood. Fair enough. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:30:49 What's your favorite seafood? Long John Silvers? Hell, no, that's the worst. I never. But I like, I like, you fuck with hot and juicy? No, no, I never heard of it. That's in L.A. too.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Oh, really? Okay. Fire. You might want to get that to go, though. Like, it's cracking in there. Like, they're going to bum rush you, trying to get interviews or whatever. Like, you can probably doored ass that bitch or, like, order that bitch or order that bitch. Order that bitch and have somebody pull up and get it for you.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Do you ever have Dave's fried chicken out here? Dave's hot chicken, actually. Hell, no, that shit fire. You had Harold's. No. Oh, you sleep. Where's Harold's? In L.A.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I ain't in front of L.A. I know about all this shit. No. You know, you know, it's hell of good. I really fuck with, like, ghetto shit. Like, trans. They got the trends in Malaya go crazy. Trends?
Starting point is 00:31:45 Trans. It's better than JJ's. Everybody. You know, you know, JJ's fishing chickenies? No. For real. Damn, I'm out of it. Oh, you tweaking, gang.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I got to teach you out of shit, bro. I can put you on some shit, gang. I ain't going to lie. I need to go to all the famous fucking spots like that, bro. You know chef Grizzly is in L.A.? No. Damn, really? And he just got his own.
Starting point is 00:32:06 own little stove. How do you keep up on all this? I got niggas in LA that keep me up to date with everything. Really? They be taking me to these spots. Like I don't find out about them on my own. Like, they take me. If it's good, I remember that shit and I go again on my own. I'm going to explain this to you though. You have skinny privilege because you're like a small, like you probably eat all this terrible food. You still say skinny. I've realized as a 37-year-old man that if I eat some terrible food, it actually makes me fat now at this point. It's crazy. You know, why my niggas so skinny though it's because I'm always hot. Like, as soon as I eat, the first thing
Starting point is 00:32:39 I do is roll up. Like, you feel like I smoke that bitch off. I fuck around and be hungry like the next 30 minutes to an hour. I get to snacking already for real. Like, I'm smoking throughout the whole day. That's why I ain't gaining no weight for real. So the weed doesn't make you eat more. A lot of people would find that strange. It make you eat more. But like, if you're a chimney
Starting point is 00:32:57 nigga, you're going to smoke and had a munchies and you're going to get full and you ain't got no more weed. You ain't going to smoke again. Like, I'm smoking all day. Like, this shit on the flow like actually like that's she going right through me when I'm smoking I ain't gonna lie like I ain't gaining no weight you ever think that smoking that much might that there might be a downside to it that it might be a negative for your life or are you still in love with it uh I don't even try to think like that like you this is part of you yeah I don't try to think like that like and I'm just enjoy this shit where I can I'm young like I'm eventually stopped over so
Starting point is 00:33:33 I don't want to smoke forever like right I want to stop, though, for a show. Like, I might stop in, like, the next two years. Like, I do everything out of young age, for real. Like, I might stop it, like, the next two years. You're going to quit weed first or the juice? I don't sip juice, for real. You're done with it?
Starting point is 00:33:49 I ain't done with it. Like, you could say I'm done with it because I don't sip it. Like, I don't eat that shit every day. Like, I could go three months without that shit. Really? Oh, that's amazing, yeah. That's good. I sip that shit on, like, special occasions.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Like, not even on a special occasion. if a nigga boy if i'm bored enough i sip that shit if i really need some sleep i sip that shit in the studio we turned up you feel me it's a gangster party i sit some of that shit but like i don't say i don't count me he's really sipping that shit because i don't be i don't really be having that shit in my liver right all like that like that you feel me that's just special occasion for me i bought a pint like six months ago and i ain't even cracked it like just because you know i always got to wake up early with the kid a pint of what uh some fucking walk or something and uh we're gonna talk later we're gonna talk later
Starting point is 00:34:42 he said no i definitely i have a lot of friends who bring it up and i like yo what what's going on with what's up with that what's up with that you want and i'm like uh no i'm holding on to it i'm treating it like an nft or like some bitcoin where i know it'll go up and value over time so hold on to it you know they make it walk now yeah they're making more of it yeah that shit that's it was discontinued for a minute that's shit back now though but you never know like they might stop making that bitch again so that's the volatility of the market when they start making that bitch though you buy bitcoin you don't know if it's gonna go up or go down same thing when you copping walk pints you might fuck around get 10 bands for that
Starting point is 00:35:14 pint one day what I'm saying imagine if I had stockpiled hundreds of bottles of act back when that was the shit and it was easy to get for $200 and you could sell it for 10k now 10k for so stop it the Migo is gonna be harassing me like let's hang out man I'm trying to get that you get whatever you want for the act right that's a down payment on the whip I used to know people who were still flexing the fact that they had some act, but I think I ain't heard about that in a long time. There's a lot of niggas out here with some fake act.
Starting point is 00:35:45 You gotta know your shit, but, like, it's some... It's some dinosaur fossils out here for show. I bring an expert with me. Yeah, you gotta have an expert with you. I'm not trying to get finessed. I don't really know what I'm looking at, and I know everybody gets finessed. I always keep an OG with me that been on that shit. Like, I'm a young nigga, like, you feel?
Starting point is 00:36:01 Yeah. We're just sipping whack. Like, I was sipping act back in the day, like, on some young shit. like not even knowing like we just on some young shit trying to get high like we away from my parents house it was whatever like i wouldn't own that shit like that for real so i wouldn't even know to tell you like niggas was really sipping whack for came in his bitch sipping whack that's how i feel about the OG four locos too i didn't know how lucky i was when i was drinking that shit back on the day yeah a little bit of that par shit too i had a little bit of that dumb
Starting point is 00:36:31 shit you don't fuck with the par yeah no that shit hell hell and nasty i found out about Park if somebody sold me something and I became briefly convinced that I got ripped off and then I had to send a video of the pour test to Desto Dub and he told me that's part he could tell just by watching it pour out hey that shit is hell of nasty yeah it was not ideal definitely it tastes that good even though I still I felt like I was getting fucked up but it felt dirty nah you was loaded for show you gonna get loaded off that bitch but it's hell and nasty you ever cop some fake drink and then just realized at some point that wasn't doing anything uh if I had some fake drink It was on some, like, it was on some, like, I take, I'm gonna take this to my man's to go, I'll let you know if there's him.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Like, you feel, that tight shit, take it to my man's, he'd let me know, like, that bitch ain't him. Like, you feel him? Throw that bitch away tight shit. Nice. Did they really ban you from L.A. radio? Mm-mm. What was that about? Man, my dumb ass, I seen that shit as soon as I woke up.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Like, you know, so I ain't, I ain't myself as I wake up as soon as I see that shit. I'm like, damn, for real. I often call stretch. I'm like, eh, they really banned the nigga from the radio. I had to smoke and shit and think about it. I'm like, oh, my shit called too hard for the radio. Like, that's just the promotion. Like, you feel, me, go to a woo.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I was like, damn, my dumb. They got my dumb ass with that shit, though. I know they got a couple motherfuckers with that shit, too. You're like, you can't ban me from L.A., man. What the fuck? No, I was fun of sight. That's fucked up. I love L.A.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Right. Definitely. Yeah, I seen you tapping in with Draco and shit. What was that like? I fuck with Drake. We got a couple of songs together for real. Right. I got like, I got one for him to come out with the, we already shot the video on Eric thing. That's going to be on my next take. Okay. And I got one for that nigga, too, the one I did for that nigga. We was going crazy. Really?
Starting point is 00:38:24 We're going to get some other shit in. So that's my nigga. You pouring up when you're in the studio with Draco? I pull up, but like. Not as much as him? Hell, no. I ain't gonna be able to work. I pull up, but like, damn, I might take an hour and a half on my verse. Like, I don't do that type of shit.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Like, I really just smoke for real. Right. I just, like, smuggling. I feel you. You seen these dudes, the Hoff twins out of Marin City? Oh, them white boys. I seen that shit on the Swan Stories. What do you think of them?
Starting point is 00:38:59 Shit, I just seen that shit. I ain't click on that shit. Oh, okay. What they say, them niggas was boys out there. Yeah, they're just like the only white guys in the hood out there, I guess, who are like accepted and they'd be whining and saying the N-word and everybody be arguing about if they should be allowed to say it or not. I've seen a little pick of them niggas. The niggas look like some gangsters. But so their whole thing is like, we're really from this environment.
Starting point is 00:39:21 So how the fuck can you tell us not to say that? But then obviously a lot of people don't agree with that. They look like a product of their environment for sure. Niggas got grills, hell of shit, tacks. They made it clear that they used to get beat up. in the hood and stuff and then they just... That's what making a nigga. They kept coming around.
Starting point is 00:39:37 That's what making a nigga. Everybody just loves them. That's what making a nigga. It's crazy. You see the video and it's like, all the women and shit in the neighborhood, they got nothing but love for them. You beat up a hundred times.
Starting point is 00:39:46 You come back, you're a soldier. Niggas, you're like, I ain't even gonna beat that nigga ass. He's gonna be here tomorrow. Like, you feel? I'm gonna still have to deal with this, nigga. And like, you can't keep beating on the nigga,
Starting point is 00:39:58 like, because a nigga, you feel me? A nigga, you feel me? A nigga built up. You never know a nigga built up. You never know a nigga do with that anger. Like, you feel me? I don't know what them niggas did in the streets, but you know.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Us white people, we tend to, like, shoot up schools and stuff. Not me, but, you know, other white people. I'm a nigga's crazy. You live in fear of that? Mm-mm. I don't bother nobody. Like, you feel me? I'm an A and B situation.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I do what I got to do and I get up out of there. Like, you feel me? A lot of motherfuckers be bothering people. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you feel me? I'm out of there. Like, you feel me? Right.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Motherfugger really got to bother me to get me out of character. Me, I don't bother nobody. Is that your patience that you've sort of developed as you got older and realized that you can't just put your energy into any random person? See, the thing about me, I'm really crazy. Like, I take it there. Like, a lot of motherfuckers be out here playing.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Like, I can't be out here taking everybody serious because I didn't flashed out on a lot of motherfuckers. And they'd be like, oh, I didn't, well, it'd be cool, bro. Like, you feel? Like, I had to notice, like, a lot of motherfuckers just be talking. Like, you feel me? Like, I learned to build my elephant skin. Like, I try to, like, I try to not let motherfuckers get up under that shit.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Because when I black out, it's over. Like, I'll be, I wake up in jail. Like, you feel me? I don't, I got shit to live for, so, you feel me? I just built that elephant skin. Like I said, a nigga really got to bother me. Get me out of character. Well, I'm not going to ask you what your, your kryptonite is, what people could say that really piss you off.
Starting point is 00:41:31 You can't give that away. It's a lot of shit though. You can say anything like, like, you feel like. But like, how I move, though, that's like, I don't give you nothing to, like, I'm not giving you nothing to make you even want to say that, like, you feel, me? I just do what I do, get up out of there.
Starting point is 00:41:51 What do you, when you see comments from your fan base and everything, like, what do you think they really want from you at this point in terms of your music and shit? And like, what do your thoughts on all that? Uh, sure. I don't know what they want, but I'm going to give me some shit, though. Shit. I felt like, shit, I got now way better than what the niggas on before.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I'm on some, what I was on before, 2.0 type shit, like, you feel, better and improved for way more mature, all that shit. Like how I wish I could sound back in the day, that's how I sound now. That's sure. When I asked Swamp Stories, if he had any questions, should ask you. His question, his messy question, was he said, ask him if he's cool with Copolo. I fuck with Copolo. I got songs with Coppolo. Okay. Yeah. Because he said, well, obviously, like, if you've watched his videos, you know that, like, a group that he was a part of, had a problem with you guys back in the day. So that's all water under the bridge. I seen Copolo
Starting point is 00:42:57 out in person, like, you feel me? And we talked about that shit as men. And he was telling me, like and niggas not even own that shit like you feel me we can make music like you feel me I respected and I like and that shit really just some internet shit I already know all that shit be niggas leading that shit on who like you feel like we could do whatever that's good that that's growth did that progression did that did that um yeah so like what do we have to look forward to from you in terms of uh what you're bringing to the table next new new projects new music videos any artists you're planning i'm working with oh man uh shit any artists i want work with i always say eric and my favorite artist little dirk i'm gonna get that one day okay
Starting point is 00:43:46 you feel me we gonna have some shit too it's gonna be one of the ones it ain't gonna be one of them little mediocre features from random nobody that do a little something it's gonna do a little something and he's gonna be like okay little niggie got a little motion like you tapped in with them yet or You just share a fan. I ain't never met that nigga. I'm just a big fan of that. I ain't fans of niggas like that. I'm a fan of that nigga, though.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Like, that's the only nigga. Like, soon as he dropped, like, I go listen to that bitch. Mm-hmm. But I got some shit coming out, though. House arrest, November 12th. That bitch's fin to go crazy. I got some features on that bitch. I got...
Starting point is 00:44:25 That's what, three or four tapes in one year? You flood in the market, huh? I don't think I dropped that many tasties. This is my third one this year, right? Yeah. Third, if you count the one with me and Slimmy. Okay. It's my third.
Starting point is 00:44:39 And then I got Rimbaud on that bitch. Ooh, nice. I had this female in that college, Sheney. Okay. She, uh, what was I got, uh, I got all black on that bitch. Oh, black hard. I got Cash Kit on that bits and I got OMBP and I got five solos. I got two solos.
Starting point is 00:45:01 That's out, so I really got three more exclusives. I got one. I got one of the ones. I feel like, I ain't going to say I got one of the ones because it's always up to the people if it's one of the ones. True. I got one of the ones. I'm happy about, you feel, me. That I look back.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I feel like that bitch got a little potential to go, you feel me? You feel me? You feel like, you feel like, you feel me? I ain't going downplayed myself. But I feel like that bitch will go crazy, though, for sure. My next tape, though, I feel like that bitch's already done. for real. I'm ready to, man, submit that bitch in. I feel like that one slap harder than the tape that, you feel
Starting point is 00:45:38 me? I'm feeling to put out. Like, you feel me? I'm just on go. I just be happy to be in a stool. Like, I love listening to myself. Like, I'm my biggest fan, too. Like, you feel me? I'm just ready. I'm going to go. I ain't got no name to the second tape yet, but shit. That shit going to be pressure, too. Like, a lot of niggasers, like, they drop some high shit, and, like, the second tape be weak. point out I count this one as my first take like this is my first one and I'm actually comfortable in the studio with all that other shit I'm finding myself I say this my first
Starting point is 00:46:11 one fire I'm ready yeah this shit gonna be hot I ain't gonna lie the boy yes sir no jumper I'm looking forward to it man everybody gonna turn his shit up because yeah mom is this shit's gonna be fire November 12th it's on the flow the boy no jumper coolest podcast in world Check us out on YouTube, all the podcast, streaming services, iTunes, all that crap. Like, comment, subscribe, nojumber.com, if you want to support. Appreciate you, G. Yes, sir. Appreciate you, Gene.

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