No Jumper - The Doggystyleeee Interview: Growing Up Crippin' in San Bernardino, Getting Shot & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today we got the one and only doggy style on the podcast. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. How are you feeling, man? I'm living, bro. Yeah? Yeah, that's all that matters to me right now.

Starting point is 00:00:10 That's what you said when you first walked in, too. So you're not taking it for granted that you're alive. No, I ain't that type of God, bro. Can't do it. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So what is that, though, that keeps you so in touch with that?

Starting point is 00:00:22 I feel like I'll be watching a lot of prison shows to, like, to feel like I'm not taking my freedom for granted. Man, I'm from witnessing things, you feel me? Seeing other people go through things, that's like, to me, that's something that I look at. Like, damn, that can't be me. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, sometimes you got to go through things in order to be the person you've been looking for, you feel me? So I've been through this shit.

Starting point is 00:00:45 I get that idea. You've been through a lot. Definitely. Yeah, facts. Facts. Talk to me about just where you grew up and everything. The Dino, San Bernardino is like a legendary place. They haven't really had that many.

Starting point is 00:00:58 Has there been a rapper that popped off out of there, really? There was a rapper probably like in 2001. I forgot his name, but he popped out. He had to pop in, but nobody really knew about San Bernardino still to this day. You know what I'm saying? And it's rough out there. You know what I'm saying? Ain't nobody trying to see you make it.

Starting point is 00:01:18 If they ain't making it, they ain't trying to see you make it. Right. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it's really the trenches out there. You know what I'm saying? We like, I guess you could call us another Chicago. You know what I'm saying? You feel like it's that bad?

Starting point is 00:01:30 It's bad, bro. I lived it. So I know it's bad. It's bad. Because I remember one time we were driving up from L.A. going to San Francisco or some shit. And one of the homies had to stop and go to weed clinic or whatever. And all of a sudden we're driving by like the oldest fucking McDonald's in the world or whatever, you know.

Starting point is 00:01:47 Yeah, you know, East Street. Right. And so we're driving by there and shit. And we went and drove through it and I posted a photo on Snapchat and shit. And my fucking DMs are blowing up by kids who are just like, what the fuck the, fuck are you doing in the Dino? It was bad. It is bad. And it's crazy because, I mean, we get overlooked

Starting point is 00:02:04 by everybody, you feel me? I mean, the first place when people come out here, Atlanta, is L.A. So, nobody knows too much about San Marino, but trust me, it's lit out there. I had to get up out of that motherfucker. You did. So you moved?

Starting point is 00:02:19 What? Come on. Now, I can't be popping and living in. That's how I got popped. I can't do it. You know what I'm saying? So it was either stay there, and get, you know what I'm saying, or get into bullshit, right, or leave and succeed, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:02:35 So it's like, you can't be, I mean, like I said, I learned off of everybody else's mistakes and what they've been through, like just seeing, like, you know, all these rappers, bro, you see what's going on, everybody's dying,

Starting point is 00:02:46 and you die in your own city, you know what I'm saying? Because your own city ain't through, they ain't trying to see you make it. Right. So that was my thing. So I was like,

Starting point is 00:02:54 and I was a hardhead. People was telling me to get up out of there. And I was like, I ain't leaving, because this is me. There ain't nobody going to run me out. Right. But just my daughter and everything, you know what I'm saying? It's like either the streets or you could pick and it's like she has nothing to do with this.

Starting point is 00:03:09 Exactly. So to me it's in my power to get her up out of here. How old's your daughter? She's four. She just turned four in May. Right. My daughter's six months, but I feel that 100% where I'll be hearing, you know, there was a terrible story that came out of Chicago about a guy who went to a McDonald's with his daughter

Starting point is 00:03:26 and they shot at him and I guess he had been posting videos pissing on his ops grave the day before they spray him up but they actually hit the girl seven times kill her. See you see that? And I was like, bro, this is beyond irresponsible for you to be going around

Starting point is 00:03:40 and putting your kid in the line of fire when you're running around basically like asking people to shoot at you, you know? Fact, facts. See, I don't see me, stuff like that to me, you are asking for it. And if like even with my situation, bro, like it took me like when all this shit started touching the air and everything shit started happening I had to stay away from my baby and it was sad it was it was

Starting point is 00:04:03 fucking me up you know what I'm saying but I didn't want her to be at the wrong place at the wrong time you feel me just because of my bullshit so it's like it was time where me and my baby mom used to get into it because I didn't want to pick her up and it's only because I was trying to save her you feel me and it was just like like I mean from where I'm from we like the we the most hated you know what I'm saying nobody fuck with us nobody like us you know what I'm saying so I know that it was too dangerous for her you know what I'm saying so it was like nigga I had to have to tell her right I don't I can't I don't want her around it not until I get up out of here you feel me so it was just bad you know definitely so okay

Starting point is 00:04:42 talk about your very young upbringing like what your environment was like growing up were both of your parents around well it was we were poor right you know what I'm saying we were struggling my mom and we were living from place to place. Are there a lot of people in San Bernardino that have a lot of money, though, because my impression was that it looked like it was kind of overall. Is there a rich part of town?

Starting point is 00:05:03 Well, I mean, there's a good, that's a good in every area. Right. You know what I'm saying? It's a good, but it's not actually San Bernardino. I mean, the North Fend is probably the best you're going to get out of that shit. And that shit bad over there, too,

Starting point is 00:05:15 because you got the people, the people run to the North Fend, too. So it's like when the stuff start happening, when they run up there, that's when stuff start happening, up there. But as far as you, if you say, like, Highland, that's like, it's not San Maradino, but it's

Starting point is 00:05:28 close to San Maradino. I guess you could say that's the best part of it. But other than that, man, it's poverty. Our downtown ain't, it's not, I mean, it's no good in it. It's no good. It's like, it's either police stations or just ran down. No, just nobody

Starting point is 00:05:44 lived there, vacant, all type of shit. It's bad, bro. We don't have nothing. That's the part of Samaritan. That's, that's, like, what's so bad about San Bernardino? because people feel like we don't have nothing to like live for because like you like like we lobsters in the box like you know what I'm saying we just stuck in there and I had to what made me realize that was the fact that when I started traveling you know what I'm saying I started looking at the life different like bro it's other shit up out here than just Sam Redino like I ain't never been nowhere outside San Bernardino so I had that San Bernardino mind state so I feel like every real gangster rapper that I interviewed has that story about how there was like a moment where it was like, oh shit, there's a lot more to life than just being on my block.

Starting point is 00:06:28 Yeah, facts, the fact is like the eye-opening experience. Some people choose to learn from that and some people just ignore it. Some people ignore, but I'm not going to do that. I want to win, bro, and I want my homeies. My true homies, I want them to win with me. I got to take them with me, you know what I'm saying? But like I always tell them, like,

Starting point is 00:06:44 other things in life I had to experience just from going to New York, like, I took advantage of like, my labels. Not my label, but label record labels that was trying to sign me, I could have been like, nah, but I'm the type of dude that's going to be like, me, I'm going to use this to my advantage. I'm about to go out there. I'll take the fucking hotel room. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:07:03 Oh, my mom, I'm going to go take this. And I experienced that and I start seeing different environment, different people, different everything. I'm like, oh, this is, damn, this is crazy. Like, San Bernardino ain't, we don't have that. I mean, you'll have to live there, you have to go there to understand. I could tell you where I want to, I could tell you everything, but to live it is different. I mean, even driving around for a little while, I know there's a shitload of cities in America that I like this, where maybe they were thriving and they had a lot of business going on 50 years ago or 30 or 40 years ago. And then at some point, that kind of runs out.

Starting point is 00:07:35 All these businesses run overseas or I don't know exactly what San Bernardito's economic collision was there. But then you end up with all these people that live there and all these kids and they got nothing, no opportunities. That's the one thing you say about New York. You're a kid who grows up in New York. you see everywhere that there's an opportunity and that it's so goddamn expensive that you can't even fucking think about living there unless you really start hustling, you know?

Starting point is 00:07:58 Exactly, you've got to go out there and get in in New York in San Bernardine. We got homeless people out there. Man, bro, I can't even explain. Like, I'm the type of dude, like, once you start experiencing things and you come back into the bullshit, like it makes you depressed.

Starting point is 00:08:13 Like, I was depressed in that motherfucker, but I can't leave it. I keep coming back to it. You feel me? I just, like, I got my people out there, got my homies out there. I try to stay away from me as much as I can, but it's like when you're so used to that,

Starting point is 00:08:27 you go back to it. But I won't, no, I can't lay there. I can't live there. You know what I'm saying? It's too much stuff there, you feel me? Right. So, I like, no. I feel it.

Starting point is 00:08:38 So when you were walking around in New York and shit, though, did you feel kind of like a freedom that you are not used to because you're always used to have to watch your ass? And you're always like, you know, like in New York, It's like you're just kind of anonymous.

Starting point is 00:08:50 People aren't really worried about you and shit like that. Yeah, it's different out there. Like, nobody knew me. I was happy. I'm not lying to you, bro. Like, because you know, grown up in the gangs and stuff like that, when people, they might be fans, but when they come up to you automatically on defense, like, who is you?

Starting point is 00:09:08 Like, I know so many times that I was like that on fans and they didn't mean no harm, but for me being in my environment and knowing what people want to do to me and this and that, it made my mind say, like, I can't trust nobody. I'm still like that. I don't trust none, bro.

Starting point is 00:09:23 I can't do it. You know what I'm saying? But being in New York, it was cool, you know what I'm saying? But it's cold as hell. Like, it's hell of cold, dude. It's a different type of weather out there. It was so cold. I had to go inside the stores because the stores were worn.

Starting point is 00:09:35 I just sit there and watch outside. You know what I'm saying? I stay out here, but it's different. You know, it's a good. I ain't, everything that I seen on TV about New York was true. There's the swamp. I mean, you know, the sewers, how the small. all that is true like I'm you I'm that stuff right there stuff like that amazed me because I

Starting point is 00:09:54 ain't never seen that you know just being surrounded by all these massive fucking buildings you can't see shit no matter which way you look you can only look straight up yeah like L.A. was the only close thing to New York I could say that I'm probably being as far as like big buildings we have buildings out there in San Bernardino but they're ran down like it's so dead out there if you ain't killing nobody you're in jail like or you just ain't doing nothing it's so hard to make it can nobody pay attention to us so it was hard for me to make it to where i'm at it's not i'm not where i want to be but i'm progress and you feel i'm saying so it's a good thing and you know do you feel like you had much of a childhood or at what point did it kind of transition from childhood to

Starting point is 00:10:34 adulthood i feel like that when my mama was going through her things like you had like we had no choice but to go out there and get things you know i'm saying make it for her and like i don't know like We had a childhood, and, of course, me and my older brother really had a childhood. My younger brother and my sister, I can't really say that they did because by time they were a certain age, my mom wasn't who she used to be. You feel me? She was already down there dying type of shit. From drugs, I'm assuming?

Starting point is 00:11:06 Nah, hell no. My mom didn't do no damn drugs. Okay. Apologies. No, you're good, bro. But nah, damn, you got, that's the first thing you think of it. I mean, there's probably a lot of people strung out on drugs out there, I'm assuming. No, no, no, my mom in hell, no, good.

Starting point is 00:11:20 But she, no, she had, what happened was back in the day, like, in the 90s, because my mom was one of those, you know, but she, she just felt like things were going on with her life, so she tried to commit suicide. Oh, wow. Yeah, she shot herself with a 22. What happened was the bullet ricocheted and hit down there every organ in her body, but she survived, you know what I'm saying? And she ended up catching kidney disease for 20-some years. She had you couldn't tell because she was so beautiful. She was healthy until, like, the last year, the last four years of her life, you know what I'm saying? That's when she started, other complications start coming.

Starting point is 00:11:58 She started catching, like, flesh-eating disease. But I blame it on St. Burdine. Because, like, you know what I'm saying? Because they don't, St. Bernardine's don't get a fuck about it. I'm telling you, like, San Bernardino was fucked up. Like, they don't care about none of their people out there. So every time I want to go to that hospital, she'll, come out crying or whatever the case may be

Starting point is 00:12:16 and saying that they were doing this to her, woo-woo, like shit like that. But she never wanted to sue them. She never want to do this. Never want to, you know, but she end up dying from, like, she ended up dying from like, what was it called? N pneumonia. Nomeonea caught on to her.

Starting point is 00:12:37 That was one of the causes of death pneumonia and kidney disease. When she had kidney disease, my cousin gave her a kid. but the doctor won't give her no more medicine for the kidney and it failed and after it failed that's when she started when she's always on dialysis from like she's on dialysis probably like 10 eight years but she was doing good with it it was keeping her alive but I ended up failing because the doctor wouldn't give her damn pills and she ended up dying right yeah at the end of the like at the end she ended up dying I knew that she caught pneumonia because I told her because she was coughing inside the damn room and I told her like mom like you got to

Starting point is 00:13:13 go to the hospital. That sounds, that don't sound like no regular damn cause. It sounds like pneumonia. She didn't want to go because of the shit she was dealing with in the hospital. But I'm telling her like, man, I don't have the equipment. We don't have the equipment here. You know what I'm saying? So if anything, you could go to a different hospital and she did. She went to a different hospital. It was the hospital that her grandma died that, that she used to call mama. And when she went there, they died in osteosuric pneumonia. And she died probably like a few weeks later. Damn. Yeah. It's, you know, it's life, bro. And that's a lot. And that's one thing about me, bro, is that

Starting point is 00:13:45 I learned that life goes on, bro. That was my biggest fear, but after that, I had to realize that life goes on. Losing your mom is your biggest fear? Yeah, that was my biggest fear. That was my biggest fear. So how did you begin to sort of work through that and get used to dealing with that?

Starting point is 00:14:04 I guess time, bro. Like, I wrote in my music. I didn't even cope with it deep. Like, I didn't cope with it like I wanted to. You feel me? Because me and my pops was getting into it you know what I'm saying because you know when emotions is in the air

Starting point is 00:14:19 head started colliding me and my father's getting into it I ended up getting kicked out moved in my bay mom we didn't have getting into it whatever the case that may be and for months I was man I was broke bro like I'm on my mom because I was broke I bought me a new car after my mom had

Starting point is 00:14:35 I bought me another car I didn't have nowhere to live so all my shit was in there from studio stuff clothes drawers every pair of shoe I ever had was there. I had the car for probably like three weeks and niggas stole it. With all my shit in there

Starting point is 00:14:49 and I was walking around barefooted. My auntie came and I had a little help here and there. They came and by me a little thing. We went to D-D's. That's how bad it was, bro. Like, I didn't have shit. And my mind was so gone. Like, I didn't even give a fuck. Like, nigga, like, it was either, you know, I didn't care, bro.

Starting point is 00:15:05 You know what I'm saying? That's why I believe that that's part of me of, that's part of a reason why I was a crash dummy too. You feel me? But it was, it was lot of things going on in my life, just period, you know what I'm saying? You feel like around that time? How old were you when you lost your mom, though? I was, my mom died.

Starting point is 00:15:22 I was like eight years ago, I think I was like 19, 20. Okay. Yeah, like 19, 20. So you're going through the pain of losing your mother, but then at the same time, you're having to survive and getting your car took? Like, you're painting the picture of just how fucking difficult it was for you to even be able to keep it going at that point. I had to. I had to.

Starting point is 00:15:41 You know what I'm saying? I had no choice. I always had a strong mind. You feel me? I can't let. And like I said, that's what made me realize that, you gotta live, dude.

Starting point is 00:15:51 You know what I'm saying? Because if you, number one, I didn't have the, I don't have the heart for no suicide shit. I don't have the heart. I had a heart to live, though. You feel me? But I ain't got the heart to just die like that.

Starting point is 00:16:03 So, you know, it was like, for me, I just had to stay strong-minded. When my mom passed, bro, no lie. I was recording a song. I forgot what song was. I think it was called Fakes. I think that was one of them.

Starting point is 00:16:16 I was recording that. My mom died. And everybody outside kicking it. You know, everybody grieved different. And I couldn't believe it. I'm in there trying to recourse you. And I'm crying every time. Every time I touch the mic, I'm crying, just crying, crying, crying.

Starting point is 00:16:30 My pops came in there and told me like, nigger, you got to do it, bro. You have to. He's like, nigga, you either, you got to just let her live through you. And I took that shit deeply. And that's why everything I would do to keep me out of trouble, to keep me out of jail, to keep me from being killed. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:16:47 I try to move different. I be smart. I use the intelligence from the streets of life. My dad taught me in intelligence of everything else. My mom taught me. And I just combine that. You feel me? I combine it, and it makes me an intelligent dude.

Starting point is 00:17:00 You feel me? To have both best of both worlds. So that's why I do, man. Like, I'm trying to move. I'm trying to move smarter than the next. You feel me? I'm trying to be 10 toes, 20 feet. You're all that ahead of the next, dude.

Starting point is 00:17:12 You feel me? Definitely. Because I mean, when you think about what your mom would have wanted for you, when you say you were at crash test dummy at one point, I mean, that's probably the worst case scenario. From her perspective, it's for you to throw your life away from nothing. Yeah, that's why it's, man. It's crazy, bro, but his life, bro, ain't nothing we could do about it. But live, dude, time can heal, but you can't heal all the way, but you know how to function normally.

Starting point is 00:17:35 I know what I'm saying? As time goes, so it don't, you know what I'm saying? Like my baby was born on Mother's Day too a year after her. So it was like, I'm happy. I got my baby, you know what I'm saying? So that's my, that's my escape. You know what I'm saying? That's my inspiration.

Starting point is 00:17:54 Besides my mistakes, that's my inspiration. I feel that because, I mean, yeah, like there's a certain way that you can live where you, you know, are taking too many risks and you're taking too many chances and you're just sort of living like you don't give a fuck about yourself. And then once you have a kid, they're really, forces like even the most gangster crazy-ass motherfucker to really look at their life and say even if I'm willing to take this risk do I want to take that risk of my kid not having me around and that's just fundamentally I think that changes a lot of people it does but some niggas

Starting point is 00:18:26 don't change for me that's true I see a lot of people not change it at all it's some niggins that don't change for it but think about me is that I care about minds some dudes don't care about their kids like I do I'm willing to change for minds or are you willing to change for yours That's your own preference, not me, because I'm a change for minds, you know what I'm saying? Because, number one, I can't just go on life looking at my baby knowing I'm doing wrong, and I can't, you know what I'm saying, or just knowing I'm putting her in bullshit, and she's so innocent and don't know what's going on, you feel me? So it was like, I'm not going to ever do that.

Starting point is 00:18:58 If I could move my baby, it's not about me no more. I had to learn that by myself. Like, it's not about me. It's all about her. So the way I move is going to reflect on her, too. So it's like, I can't do it. You feel me? So I don't know.

Starting point is 00:19:10 Everybody's different. That's why I got to be different, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm different. I don't move like the next. But to be honest, I mean, dudes making babies and then not taking care of them, not sticking around, not trying to be involved in their lives. It's like one of the biggest plagues upon society right now is how normal that shit is to people, you know? You're a buster if you do that.

Starting point is 00:19:28 I can't respect you as a gangster. You're acting like you're like very out of the ordinary because that's important to you. That should be the default for everybody, you know? That's supposed to be. If you ain't got nothing else to change for her. like I said it's not it's changed for your kids bro I love mine some dudes don't care I can't even see how you can have a baby

Starting point is 00:19:48 and not be there for it I can't look at me every day I come home or whatever the case when I see my daughter even when I'm away from I think about her so how can you not think about your own you feel me so it's like I think it's unfair for anybody to just abandon their kids you know what I'm saying when they didn't ask to be here

Starting point is 00:20:04 you know what I'm saying I only can imagine what it's like to not have your parents. You feel me? I experienced minds. I experienced a mom and daddy. You feel me? Some people ain't even had that. So I'm not going and I ain't going to say I took mine

Starting point is 00:20:21 for granted. You know, we're just being kids. You always fuck up, you feel me? But you don't realize what you got until it's gone. You probably think you realize it, but you don't realize it as much as you think you do. You feel me? Until it's gone. You'd be like, damn, like, it hurts. You feel

Starting point is 00:20:37 me? So I know if, God forbid, you know what I'm saying? It almost happened, but if something happened to me, it's going to hurt my baby because I'm all her know. I'm all she knows besides her mama and her other side of the family, you feel me, so I can't let that happen. I'm going to move smart. I don't care what anybody say about me, you feel me.

Starting point is 00:20:58 And I don't keep that away from me, though. You feel me? Yeah. So, okay, when you were growing up, though, when did, would you say you got introduced to, like, the streets, and what was, like, you know, But there's a lot of different types of ways that people sort of get introduced to gangs. Like, what was it that drew you to it?

Starting point is 00:21:14 Well, I was raised around it. I was raised around it. You know, I was raised around it. You know what I'm saying? So I already was introduced to it. You feel me? From a kid, being in the hood, my dad, I'm always over there with him under him and shit like that. So it's like you can't even even like kids, like even with parents of kids that don't even know anything about gang banging.

Starting point is 00:21:37 But you got a thing. You could keep your kids away from shit as much as you can, but you got a thing that they go to school. So when they go to school, that shit is still there from other people. Right. You feel me? So it's like it's going to be there. It's like you just got to have a strong state of mind.

Starting point is 00:21:52 You could be a gangbanger, but move smart. You see what I mean? There's a difference from a gang bang and a game member, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, but just move smart. Don't move like a next. But was your dad trying to keep you away from the more dangerous aspects of it? I don't know he was young too

Starting point is 00:22:09 you feel me he tried to keep us away but how can you keep us away he didn't keep us away too much because I'm always over there you know what I'm saying but my mom was always the one to keep him us away

Starting point is 00:22:20 sometimes I still go over there my dad did try to keep us away but we already seen it's too late you know what I'm saying we want to be like daddy you feel me so it's like there's only so much you can do you feel me but like my younger brother

Starting point is 00:22:33 he ain't never really you know, experience with me and my older brother did. You feel me? As far as living around that time when my dad was really active. So it was like, he was a good person, though.

Starting point is 00:22:46 He still is. So your little brother kind of missed out on all that? Because your dad was sort of out of that lifestyle. Yeah, after that, he got out of it. You know what I'm saying? You got out of it. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:22:54 And he did it for us. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, and, you know, and plus, you know, facts is, like, the hood don't love you as much as your family do, bro.

Starting point is 00:23:06 At the end of the day, and that's facts, bro. There's only some, like, you have your certain homies that really do love you, but most of them, a lot of time, the hood don't love you. The streets don't love you. I had to realize that the streets don't love you. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:23:21 And it's all good, though. You know what I'm saying? Because you get a taste of it. When you get a tasted, hopefully it's not too late for you to learn from it, you feel me? But a lot of people don't even have the family. So then once they get a little bit of that gang experience, To them, that's everything, because that's what they've been looking for the whole life.

Starting point is 00:23:38 That's their family. I mean, you ought to be strong-minded. If you ain't strong-minded, you're weak-minded. So it's like, I don't know. Everybody's different, bro. Like, I don't know, you know, so. So, okay. But I imagine there's one thing, which is, like, wanted to be part of the game,

Starting point is 00:23:54 but then there's a whole other thing once it becomes there's opposition, there's people that you're basically in the gang because it's going to protect you against these other people and stuff. When does that start to take formation? shit in your mind? And was that always like a constant issue with you in San Bernardino? I feel like a lot of people don't have shit to do but beef.

Starting point is 00:24:12 That's my assumption. I'm not really that. If it comes to me, it comes to me. You know what I'm saying? I don't never ask for help, but the homies got me. You feel me? So it's like, I don't know. Like, some people do it for the fame. Some people do it just because

Starting point is 00:24:28 they don't know nothing about it. You know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, it don't protect you. It don't protect you as much as you think you do. It fucks your life up. You feel me? You make you, and now it makes you a target, it make you all type of things where you basically limit your life.

Starting point is 00:24:45 You know what I'm saying? Game banking limits your life, I mean. It really does. So it's like you either, if you ain't a gang bang it on it do it. Honest truth, don't do it. Like that's, like, I'm not my destiny. I'm not going to make it my destiny. You look at like grown-ass men who become rappers

Starting point is 00:25:01 and then they start talking all this crazy shit as like the weirdest thing ever because you were sort of born into it? Yeah, yeah, I was raised into it, bro. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to ever tell nobody the wrong thing to do, you know what I'm saying? Because I wouldn't want nobody to tell me

Starting point is 00:25:17 the wrong thing to do. That's why I got some big homies that be in my ears about stuff, you know what I'm saying? Like when it comes to, like, rapping and me being successful, they stay in my ear, you know what I'm saying? Especially because it's good for the hood too and it's good for me.

Starting point is 00:25:30 They want me to win, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, You got to, ain't nobody, we, at nobody like us, you feel me at the end of the day. So I don't, I'll just stay up out of this shit. I feel it. So were you getting in trouble a lot, like all through high school and after that and everything? I was getting suspended and shit, but I wasn't like, I had to, like, I was getting, I was fucking up badly. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:25:55 Like, I was almost not graduating at all, bro, like at all. Like, I was fucking up, ditching. You know what I'm saying? Getting into fights until one day. I ain't gonna lie My dad did whooped my ass Yeah My mom he whipped my ass

Starting point is 00:26:09 Because he told me He told me straight up He had to talk with me Like nigga you made it this for And you fucking up You know what I'm saying And that shit made me Grap on shit too

Starting point is 00:26:17 Like damn I made it this four That's why I think The way I think now Even being in dumb fucking positions And I made it this far I can't turn back I'm already at the finish line

Starting point is 00:26:28 You feel me I'm damn near there So I can't turn back And throw all my shit away from a buster, you feel me? So it's like, I don't know, I just move wise, bro. I have to. I have to.

Starting point is 00:26:40 I got to be smarter than the next man. But when did that start to make sense to you? Like, oh, like, I actually have something to lose. Like, I can't just, you know, because you're talking about your dad beating your ass even just about you not finishing high school, right? Or, like, not doing well in school? I mean, when I really felt like I had no I to lose

Starting point is 00:26:58 is when I started making it into rap, you know what I'm saying? And I started finding getting a recognition. And then it was just, like, that's a lot to lose, bro. Just having that type of platform, me, look where I'm sitting. You feel me? I'm sitting with Adam. So it's like, that right there really made it seem like, okay, you got a lot to lose for show for show. That's the one thing that everybody in every neighborhood is trying to,

Starting point is 00:27:24 not everybody, but there's always some people trying to become rappers, and we all know it's like a 99.8 failure rate. Oh, hell is. It's hard. But it's only hard if you make it hard. If you give up, I mean, like I tell people, don't nobody believe in you, like you believe in you. You feel me?

Starting point is 00:27:40 You got to make your dream a reality. A dream is only a dream if you keep it a dream. You feel me? I'm making mine happen. I have to. I might not be where I'm at, but everybody know who I am. That's facts.

Starting point is 00:27:52 Were you influenced by anybody that you had seen or who made you feel like you could actually get started rapping? Well, I started rapping in 12th grade. My auntie put me on, But what happened was we had to make a song about smoking in junior high school. I was in sixth grade. And I was like, well, shit, I'm going to try to do it.

Starting point is 00:28:12 And I asked you, my auntie helped me because she was a rapper. She's one of those tongue-twisting. So she, yeah, so she started writing and helping me out. And then I started going from there. You feel me? I'm influenced by a lot of rapper. I'm influenced, you know, I'm inspired by fucking Snoop. Pac, Pac, one of my favorite rappers.

Starting point is 00:28:30 He's my favorite rapper. You know what I'm saying? That's really Ice Cube, all the West Coast really you know what I'm saying? But I mean, it's all love. You think you're always drawn to that side of shit. Like you, because you, that's one thing that stands out about you in particular

Starting point is 00:28:44 is that you clearly have this great reverence for the old school sounds and style of the music. Like that's what I grew up on. Like literally, Doggy Style was my first rap album that I gave a fuck about and I was like nine years old. And that, to me, that like, G-Funk sound was what the fuck? is this. This is the greatest thing I ever heard in my life. And I was so little that I'm sure

Starting point is 00:29:06 had that effect on you and a lot of other people too. Yeah, man. Well, I'm raised around that. You know what I'm saying? And me being raised and listening to like Snoop, uh, pot, my pop's, you know, listen to all the old school stuff. I listen to all, even when females sing, I listen to all type of, you know what I'm saying, old school stuff. And I just got it in my heart, you know what I'm saying? And me being dressed how I am, my pop star always dressed me like this and I just took it and kept it. I stuck to the roots and I still stand to the roots. It might be like a little

Starting point is 00:29:37 2000 but I'm still in the roots, you feel me, ain't nobody doing it like me and that's facts. I like it because it's like, you know there's a lot of people who just reject what their parents put them on to and it's like it's dope to see you very much like appreciating the tradition and the style at that time.

Starting point is 00:29:54 I can't get away from me. I'll be trying to get away from this shit. I can't get away from me. Bro. Even with like all this fashion design and shit, I can go get all that but it's not me i'll be lying to myself trying to fit in with the next i ain't it's not me i don't that's not me right you know what i can't do it you know but i stuck to the roots you know i respect it so okay your your your your aunt put you on to making music and then how did you start proceeding with it like was it who was influencing you at that point

Starting point is 00:30:23 she just me yeah my emotions what i was going through right and shit i just took to it you know what i'm saying I can't, like, I just stuck to it. It was, to me, it's an escape from everything, bro. When you're able to, it's like a diary, bro. If you were able to write down your, and it keeps your sanity, you know what I'm saying? When you're able to write down, jot down everything, if you listen to my music, a lot of that stuff is, like, facts,

Starting point is 00:30:47 like, it's shit that I'm going through. Right. You know what I'm saying? If I don't write it down, I might end up in jail. If I don't have nobody talking to me and putting shit in my ear and give me the right, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to end up dead or in jail, bro. So to me, that's the, um,

Starting point is 00:31:00 only way they do it, you feel me? Yeah, I respect it. How'd you end up getting beats or even getting in a real studio and making music for real? Because there's one thing to just be rapping with the homies or have a little studio in the crib or whatever, but how'd you actually start taking it serious? Well, I started with my homie

Starting point is 00:31:16 I State Live. That's his my producer, I was in high school. My close homie first. We started making stuff together in the garage and stuff. We end up growing up and stuff. After that, I started, started taking shit from like YouTube.

Starting point is 00:31:33 You feel me? Taking beats and shit like that. And then I end up taking one of Aces beats. And A's started really fucking with me. And then I think he, I don't know if he tapped in with me or I tapped in with him. One of them, it was so long ago. And he told me to come to the studio. And every day I go, not every day.

Starting point is 00:31:50 But when I can, I go there. If I can't go there, I go to the homie Saff. The Saff did the studio. So that's how I've been, you know, to me, it don't matter if you were at home making music. It's not what you do it. You feel me? It's not what you do. It's how you do it.

Starting point is 00:32:03 You know, so they ain't not real studio their home studios. But I think that's a big part of why people were so into what they were seeing from you is that the videos looked really good. The music sounded really good. It's from a place that we're not really, like, used to seeing like a real dope depiction

Starting point is 00:32:20 of what's going on there. You know, like in L.A., we've seen a fucking million videos from Compton. We're used to seeing it. And San Bernardino, I had never seen it. Because I've been there, driven through there and stuff, but when I first saw your videos,

Starting point is 00:32:30 I'm like, oh, wow, like, this is actually what the fuck is going down there, all right. Yeah, well, it's a beautiful thing, though. Right. But how did you start finding, like, a video guy? How'd you started, like, putting shit on YouTube and, like, doing crazy numbers and shit? Well, honestly, all right, it started, I'm going to go.

Starting point is 00:32:45 Me and my little brother and my cousins, we had started our own little thing, but it didn't work, but we kept it going. We still, we tore it off an iPhone, bro. It started with me. We caught off an iPhone, because I always wanted to be my own entrepreneur. where I wanted to mix my stuff, do my own videos.

Starting point is 00:33:01 So we did a song called Into Something a long time ago. We did a few songs, videos off an iPhone, and we put it on Final Cut Pro, and I started editing it's bull crap, but, you know, I was at the first stage of my life of doing my own videos. Then one day, my little cousin, this was probably like two years ago when I first started booming, my little cousin had shot with voice, voice too hard, and their little hood, you know what I'm saying? And I hit him, I was like, Cahoo yo video, man,

Starting point is 00:33:29 because he horrid his hell. Like, what the hell? He's like, man, it's the homie voice. Tap in with him. I tapped in with voice. We've been in history ever since. Every time we throw shit out, it's, we make sure it's movies.

Starting point is 00:33:40 Not no just regular-ass clip, you feel I mean. It got to make sense, and it got to look popping. Voice won't let me fuck up. If I tell him some bullshit, he's going to be, you know what I'm saying, he's going to be in my ass. Like, nah, bro, we ain't about to do.

Starting point is 00:33:51 They're trying to hit a million. Right. You know, but I mean, some don't, something don't something do but what's your mentality about though because like you know you could just do videos these days super easy just post up outside the house film it it could even look really good but like also i feel like a lot of your shit is like you'll have the whole neighborhood out you'll have a whole shillot of people coming out on the block which is just for the people watching the video that's like really makes them feel like they're there to see how people are

Starting point is 00:34:13 really living out there bang mine for sure that was the one bang mine i put all my homies on because like i said i want to see my niggas win you know what i'm saying so that one right there everybody gravitated too but before that one we different was the one that popped that was that pop I didn't think it was gonna pop to be honest I didn't think Voice the one was already saying like

Starting point is 00:34:35 this gonna hit a two million you know what I'm saying it hit like two million what like a week I think it was two million or three million a week and it's been going from there I didn't think it was going to pop you know but I think it's more of me giving them like you said like me giving them that feeling that they're

Starting point is 00:34:51 there living back in the past some people People ain't never had that experience. But I think that's what it is too. But Bangmines was for show, I think, one of the best hood songs out in videos. Because I put, what, like six dudes on there? Six, eight, and it's like eight minutes, and everybody on there got bars, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:35:08 So that popped, you know? And so were those all like your close friends? Yeah, those were close homies, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So, I'm gonna leave it at that. Okay. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:35:19 That's what's up. So, okay, as your career is catching fire though and like things are really starting to look up and up do you start getting negative attention like obviously there was the situation where you got jumped at one point but did you start feeling like the hate and the sort of envy like right away hell yeah what you could feel it you can't see but you could feel it or you might mistake it but I'm so much of a I don't trust you type of nigga like I'm going automatically feel it but I got hate shit you know what I'm saying but who don't popping that's what happened

Starting point is 00:35:53 You know, a hater only expands you. That's how I feel. That's how I take it. You know what I'm saying? Like I tell people a hater believe in you more than you believe in yourself. You know what I'm saying? Because they feel that you're going to make it. They know it before you.

Starting point is 00:36:06 Was there a moment for you where you realize like, oh shit, like me going to get a fucking burger at night is not like it used to be six months ago? What? Hell yeah. I don't mean. Look, I wasn't even going places, certain places because I knew I'm not hard to miss. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:36:23 Even when I be having my mask on, I cover up my neck. It's still you. I got fans coming up to me. Hey, you doggy style who. Like, shit. Like, damn, nah, that ain't me. That's the little homie. I'll point out my little homie.

Starting point is 00:36:34 Like, that's good. You know what I'm saying? But, nah, it's been a few times, even with me going into situations and an enemy or whatever, you spot me. Now he's like, now it's some bullshit. You feel me? So it's like, it's not safe because, like, me being a popping artist and then being from San Bernardino was hell of poverty and bad and violence,

Starting point is 00:36:56 it made me super target. Like, I got a big G on my back right now, you know what I'm saying? And I'm cool with it. I'm tearing toes in with it. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, it's a dangerous thing to be a rapping in a game. You know what I'm saying? And still living in the ghetto, that doesn't mix.

Starting point is 00:37:16 It's not a good combo. It don't make, you, you, now I feel like everybody is my enemy. Right. I can't trust nobody. I can't trust you. You might be a fan, but how do I know that? And I think of somebody like Kodak Black, who he still lives, like, basically in the, you know, like relatively close to the hood that he grew up in and shit, but he's so fucking rich

Starting point is 00:37:34 that you can just have, like, a big mob of security outside your crib and shit. And that's, like, it's totally different when you're somebody like you who's just starting to really taste fame and money off YouTube and all this shit, you know? It's dangerous, though. When you do that, I had that. I had my homies. That's all that I need. I need no security.

Starting point is 00:37:50 Do my niggas. You know what I'm saying? But at that, too, like, that's another dangerous thing because I wasn't thinking, because, like, when you bring the homies and it's not, it's not, it's not like nothing towards them, it's just that, because they're used to it, when niggas come to your house,

Starting point is 00:38:08 they make that a kicking spot. And when they make it a kicking spot, now niggas know where you at. And like niggas didn't know where I was already from my videos. Like I said, a crash dump. So from the beginning, that you consider that crash-diving behavior

Starting point is 00:38:22 filming videos in front of my shit because i didn't give a fuck like nigger come over here all right we we've already prepared for it type shit you feel me but you always slip everybody slept if you ain't if niggas didn't slip the hardest niggas would be alive right now you feel me your homie would be alive right now but it was just like shit became a hot spot and it wasn't they fault it was they just doing what they love to do make sure the homies is good kick it with the homies you know what i'm saying but it became something dangerous. You feel me? I don't feel like I ever seen anybody ask you about Nipsey in an interview. Was he somebody inspired you a lot?

Starting point is 00:38:59 Yes, he really did. Yeah. Nip really did inspired me. He's a big inspiration too, you know what I'm saying? The way he moved. You know what I'm saying? Sad that he had to go this way. Yeah. You feel me?

Starting point is 00:39:09 But that's what happened when you can't, people need to stop thinking or trying to like prove a point to niggas. That's the part. That's why I don't can't stand about these new niggas. These new rappers. It's like, oh, I ain't got to go nowhere with no security. All right, cut, put your life to test all you want. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:39:26 You can't move like that. Stop trying to prove niggas wrong because that's where you fuck up at. You know what I'm saying? But it's like me, if I can afford the security, I'm getting it. The fuck, I don't care what niggins feel about me. I'm protecting my life because, number one, I can't defend myself behind a million motherfuckers that want to kill me. You feel me?

Starting point is 00:39:46 So either you be smart about it or you go out the dumb way. I'm not going out no dummy because I almost did you know what I'm saying And there's two ways to get caught too Because it's like you either gonna get caught Lacking like if you stay sort of too close To your environment or

Starting point is 00:40:02 The cops are gonna run up in your spot And there's gonna be 50 guns And then you're gonna get kind of like that You wanna move wise man Like I tell a thing you could have a AK on you Your back is always turns towards somebody It don't matter how big your gun is

Starting point is 00:40:17 Bro is how big your fucking mind is Bro if your mind ain't big you're going to always lose. You're going to, you're going to have, you're going to lose. You feel me? So I'll be telling that you got moved smarter than the next. You feel me? So.

Starting point is 00:40:28 For sure. When you were young growing up in San Bernardino, do you come to L.A. much? Was that like, hell no. No? No, hell no. Really? Never. I didn't start coming to L.A. until I started driving.

Starting point is 00:40:38 Really? Yes. And that's probably with, I started coming to L.A. really probably like a year ago. I wasn't like, I don't, I don't come to L.A. I don't know L.A. I'll be feeling like I'm out of bad. I am out of bounds.

Starting point is 00:40:52 I don't know their politics. I don't know who they be for. I can be at the wrong place at the wrong time. I mean, I've been to my, me being with like a female

Starting point is 00:40:59 if they bring me to some bullshit, I'm like, hell no, I ain't getting out. They used to have me try to tell me to pump gas. Nigger what? You pump the gas. I ain't about to go pump the gas.

Starting point is 00:41:08 I don't even know where I'm at. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, y'all are you telling me I'm in the Hoover is what the hell? I'm not pumped the gas. I'm from San Bernardino. I don't know your politics.

Starting point is 00:41:17 You feel me? So it's like. On my mama, I'm still from San Bernardino, though. Right. Yeah, I mean, L.A. is like the ultimate place where, you know, when people ask you where you're from, if your answer ain't really, really simple and satisfactory to that person is a big fucking issue. And I just, I can't even imagine when it's saying from San Bernardino, that's got to be like, oh, man, we've got so many questions to ask you now.

Starting point is 00:41:40 Yeah, it's all love, though. You know, I got love for L.A. ain't nothing towards them. Because they support a nigga. L.A. really support me, and that's why I fuck with L.A. Because I've seen you in Long Beach with D.W. Flame. That's my nigga, because I really fuck with DW. He's a solid nigga. I'd be feeling like when you hate on a nigga that's genuine

Starting point is 00:41:56 because it's something wrong with you. You feel me? Because I don't know what that, you know what I'm saying, what his shit is, but he's a genuine nigga. I fuck with DW, you feel me. How'd you get in touch with him? Well, DW reached out to me. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:42:09 I don't know if I was following cud first, or he was following me. I don't know what happened, but, you know, niggins just hit each other up here and there. And then he's like me, he's like, girl let's do a song together and we did a song together you know what I'm saying and everybody fucking with it you feel that's my nigga though you know what I'm saying no yeah he's dope because I did the interview with him because I had tradee hitting me up

Starting point is 00:42:30 telling me about him and I wasn't fully tapped in I had seen a little bit of it but I didn't realize that that interview did super good people loved it like people really he's just like really he's a good soul he's great on camera people really like him a lot good dude you know what I'm saying I mean I don't got nothing bad to say about him I mean the person I don't believe what another nigga tell me anyways. You can't tell me some shit that's going to make me believe you, bro. Only let me see it from myself, you feel me? What about being in Long Beach like that, though, like just being in a completely

Starting point is 00:43:00 different environment, different neighborhood, and, like, you just surround all these people. I'm sure it was all love, but it was a little weird for you. It was love. It was love. It was love. You know what I'm saying? He had his homies. I had my homies, and it wasn't no, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:43:13 It was one nigga for me that I really fuck with. You know what I'm saying? Because it was a solid nigga. He made sure we left there safe. Right. He went, like, because we're in the six-fold on the thing. We're on the sixth-fold. And if the four had a-on had broke, so we were stuck there.

Starting point is 00:43:29 You know what I'm saying? That niggis stayed there until like 11 o'clock. He told us straight up, we're going to make sure you get out of this motherfucker safe. You know what I'm saying? All my niggins are sitting there. I mean, we wasn't sleeping, but still, it's the fact that niggas were showing love to us being from San Redino. Because, you know, some niggis from L.A.

Starting point is 00:43:47 feels sometimes worried about San Bernardino. But, you know, it is what it is. But we got love for LA, so. But they made, I far fuck with D-D up, you know what I'm saying? His homies are solid. Oh, yeah. That's dope. Yeah, in terms of just what you feel like you're trying to accomplish, is there anybody else who stands out for you that you would, like, want to work with at this point?

Starting point is 00:44:09 I know you've been trying to tap in with my boy AD, who was apparently so drunk last night that he couldn't make it today. Oh, yeah, but are you talking about as far as, like, artists? Yeah, just like anybody that you're a big fan of that you see doing it. I want to fuck with, though, really, besides Snoop, I really think that, first, I want to fuck with Snoop because, number one, everybody already compared me with them. And I think that would be something big, bro. If me and Snoop did some shit, like, come on.

Starting point is 00:44:32 Niggas already say I look like, they already think I look like. But that would be hard. Y, G, you know what I'm saying? That would be some hard shit. There's a few niggins that I want to tap in with, you know, but me being, I'm prideful, bro. But in this rap game, you can. can't be like that. You can't be like you got

Starting point is 00:44:50 know how to network. And that was my problem. Like if you pay attention to how I move, bro, I don't have no features. I barely, I don't, it's all me because I feel like, I'd rather get it out the mud, because I want like I tell, like, I tell my homies, I tell everybody like, when you're in a rap game,

Starting point is 00:45:07 I feel like it's important for you to build your own resume and build love within your fans. Because when people do features, there's people that do thousands of features, bro, and they shit is trash. It's super obvious. That's not real. Yeah, like, come on, bro. Like, you don't feel like you can make it on your own without features.

Starting point is 00:45:24 So I want to build my own. I wanted to build my own fan base, which I did. I was 100,000 by myself, no manager, no co-sign, no nothing, just me. You know what I'm saying? And I built love within my fans, bro. So if you pay attention to a lot of people, like, back in the day, like, most niggas fell off without that main dude. You know what I'm saying? Like, look at Snoop.

Starting point is 00:45:48 Snoop's still cracking. The nigger is a, he's an entrepreneur, bro. He's, you can't, look at Ice Cube. Like, all everybody, you know what I'm saying? Because they built love within their fans and within their own music by themselves first. And crazy thing about Snoop is that none of these kids now even remember that he was a gangster rapper.

Starting point is 00:46:07 It's like he's a grown-ass pimp or whatever, superstar, whatever his identity is now, you know. Yeah, you know, I mean, you want to teach your kids a different side of you. You know, you don't want to show him. that side. Definitely. So when you picked your rap name, what was your mentality? Was the number one concern not like,

Starting point is 00:46:26 damn, people are going to think, compare me to Snoop too much? Look, to be honest on everything I love, geez, that my name wasn't, it didn't come from Snoop album. I didn't even know Snoop had an album named Doggy Stap until people put that in my head. And I'm a fan of Cubs, but I never looked at his albums. I was always, you know, listen to his music.

Starting point is 00:46:46 and my name wasn't dogish that wasn't supposed to be my rap name that was an Instagram name but since people was calling me that I ran with a rap name so that's how that came built on it because I feel like I was a dog bro like and that doesn't mean by just

Starting point is 00:47:01 female type shit it can mean whatever you wanted to mean but it was like the anger I had in me bro like when you're a dog you don't think most dogs don't think when they act when they react to things like I brought

Starting point is 00:47:16 up a few times in the interview that if you pay attention like there's a picture of a dog and he's jumping off a cliff to get a bird but he ain't thinking he ain't seeing what's going up under him you know I'm saying but his anger is so built on trying to get that bird that he might you know go to his own death because of that you feel me so it's that's how I feel like I was moving bro like a fucking crash dummy but you know but when people compare me it's new by taking I just soak it in thank you I appreciate it. You know what I'm saying? To me, that's a compliment.

Starting point is 00:47:50 Because he's a legend. You know what I'm saying? He doing this thing. He still is relevant. Like a motherfucker. Very. You know? And he's really got like the life that I think kind of all of us want to build for ourselves

Starting point is 00:48:02 where, you know, he's really able to just be posted up in this fucking compound doing whatever the fuck he wants. Every day it's kind of like the ultimate dream for anybody. And just the fact that he's been able to stay cool and relevant for all these years. I was watching TV the other day. I never watched TV and he's fucking, I'm seeing him in all these commercials and shit. Where he's just doing different roles. I'm like, bro, this dude is making so much money.

Starting point is 00:48:24 He's doing his thing, man. Man, he's a made nigga. You're made, nigga built, love within everybody. So everybody knows Snoop. When I was listening to your most recent EP today, that's one thing that stood out to me, though, is that for somebody who, you know, most of your big songs on YouTube and shit are like real gangster type songs, you definitely got a lot to say to the women out there. Oh, yeah, I do.

Starting point is 00:48:45 Yeah. You got a soft side a little bit, right? What? Come on, bro. I do this. You know what I say? I love it with it. Or my mama I do, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:48:56 But yeah, I be saying good things and bad things. I'm going off of experience. Like I said, some of this shit, a lot of that my music is real shit. You know what I'm saying? Off of experience or just seeing other people go through things. And, you know, I mean. Are those two very different mentalities for you, though, when you're making a song about the streets versus a song about girl?

Starting point is 00:49:16 I don't know. Most likely, sometimes, no. I don't know, you know what I'm saying? Because, I mean, you got to, I mean, it has to be, don't it? Like, you got to think definitely when you're writing something about a female. But when you pop up in the studios, it's just all based on mood. How are you feeling at that moment? It depends on the beat.

Starting point is 00:49:32 I know the mood of the beat. So if my homie age played a beat, I know how I'm going to come on there. Okay, I'm going to do this for the women. I know I'm going to talk my shit in this one about the niggas. Woo-woo. I know how to approach your beat. Like, if you put a beat on all, I know how to go about it. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:49:48 So that's how I do it. Are there any girls left in San Bernardino that are bad enough for you that you're a successful rapper? Man, you don't want to alienate your whole city, but they're telling me that's a bad question. Man, I don't fuck with none. I mean, oh, my mama, geez, no. Hell no.

Starting point is 00:50:07 They, not all females. I mean, you got bad in every city, but San Antonio, those bitches is woke, girl, jeez. Hell no. But not all of them Some of them are good female I will never make one female The reason why I'm saying

Starting point is 00:50:21 No, I can't do that But everybody being with everybody I'm put it like that It's like it's a small city We got the biggest We're the biggest county In the world We got like 52 cities

Starting point is 00:50:33 But as far as San Medino city It's small You know what I'm saying Everybody know everybody Everybody been with everybody I don't fuck with them bitches And not only that You don't know

Starting point is 00:50:42 Who they know Right They can set you what? So I don't really fuck with San Bernardino females, you know what I'm saying? I was listening to the new Icewear Vezo album and Rio the Young O.G. had a verse on it and he's from Flint,

Starting point is 00:50:54 Michigan. And he said on part of the verse, he said, if you got $40, you can fuck every bitch in Flint. And I was like, wow, I had never heard somebody say that about this city. Yeah, hey, Kucci Wook, hell, there's probably a lot of cities where there's pretty

Starting point is 00:51:10 close to true, right? Yeah, what? San San Bernardino's one of them. $40. They're nasty. hell, dude, they nasty. They'll fuck everybody. Your homie, all type of shit, they don't give a fuck. Nasty. $40. Come on, I'm not about to, you think I'm about to cuff on it y'all.

Starting point is 00:51:23 Nicking, no. I'll treat you like the way you act, get treated accordingly. Right. You know, so. Yeah. So if, you ever see those memes where they point out, like, a rapper's baby mama versus like the girl he's with now? If they did that to you, how would you feel? My baby mama's bad.

Starting point is 00:51:39 We don't get along like that. I don't, you know what I'm saying now we're trying to get along but my baby mama fine is hell okay you know what I'm saying but I don't fuck we like that right you know but we cool a little too saying redidina for you no no no I don't jeez no I won't I won't never put our in our business out there but she's a she a good mom she's a great mom she's a good person you know but we we just all we just things gone away you know what I'm saying so I just left it at that and just try to work on just us being you know, hopefully she do change in the future.

Starting point is 00:52:15 But we right now, we just cool. Like, I'm cooling. I'm chilling. I'm not about to, no, I'm cool off of that. That's what. You're not looking for another baby mama anytime. Fuck, no. Hell no, what?

Starting point is 00:52:26 I'm cool, dude. I'm chilling. I mean, I want another kid, but you're a girl going to have to work for that. You're like, I'm not going to happen. Especially with me having a name, you're tripping. Right. You tripping. Plan B is a motherfucker.

Starting point is 00:52:41 You know what I'm saying? That's real. And condoms is too. So, you're saying. I keep a, what's it called? The Nuva ring? I just keep one of them in the fucking, in the glove compartment.

Starting point is 00:52:55 The ring they put in and that stops off the shit. No, because I said, the reason why I couldn't get that out is because I said to my home the other day, I'm like, you got to wear a condom because you be fucking bitches that live in their cars. And he said, that's why I keep a newver ring in the center console.

Starting point is 00:53:08 What the fuck hell, dog. Crazy. I don't do that, because I have to, I hate Connell, but you need them. You don't know what these bitches is walk around with, you know what I'm saying? So, you, if they fucking, you, they fucking the next nigga, too. So I'm cool. Conno's is a motherfucker. You feel me?

Starting point is 00:53:27 So. I can't, I ain't have one on in years, but I heard they're important. That's crazy. I've been in a relationship. I thought you was just fucking wrong dog. But we fuck girls, but we make them get tested first. Oh, yeah? And then who knows what the fuck they're doing in between getting tested?

Starting point is 00:53:39 I mean, that's the best thing to do, but you got made sure they could bring paperwork too. But they're like porn girls mostly, so they're used to... You nasty they, they're doing. Yeah, yeah, we are. I heard them bitches be woke, too. The porn girls? Yeah, they're professionals, bro.

Starting point is 00:53:54 Yeah, nasty shit, I'm not, hell no. We got Tiana Trump coming in next week. You want to meet her? Fuck no. No? Hell no, because that shit don't flatter me. You're a boozy already, man. I've been there, done that, I ain't trying to.

Starting point is 00:54:05 You're just getting started as a rapper, and you're already too bougie for Tiana Trump. I respect it. I don't know who she is, Kelm G. She's a legend, bro. You probably know. Me, her, all right, because I guess I'm a mid because the homie said, is she good? Okay, I don't know who she is, bro. I heard of her.

Starting point is 00:54:23 She's a very influential top giver. Yeah, okay. Cool. Yeah. Cool. Cool. She sounds cool. That's what's up.

Starting point is 00:54:31 The show. All right, so when you think about your career and where you're at right now and everything, what do you feel like you've got to do to take it to the next level? Are you looking to sign? Are you feeling like? Are you feeling like you could just keep blowing your shit up on your own? How do you feel about it? I mean, if they come at me correctly, I'll sign to somebody.

Starting point is 00:54:48 But right now, I'm doing me, but this shit is hard. Oh, my mama is hard, dude, because, you know, I got to live my life at the same time. I got to take care of my real life besides just rapping and shit like that because, you know, this is still real. I got bills. I still got shit like that. So I invest all my shit into myself, of course. but it's hard because especially I ain't got a manager

Starting point is 00:55:11 I ain't got nobody bro I'm doing this shit like literally on my own but it's good I mean can nobody tell me I'm the reason why I'm where I'm at you feel me I made this my own reason why I'm at you know what I'm saying so I built my own thing I built everything by myself you know what I'm saying a lot of these dudes and it was so crazy though me coming out of San Redino that's why I feel like I really am one of those a nigga I really feel because it's hard to make it out of San Bernardino

Starting point is 00:55:38 bro, like besides the vines, I'm just saying, like, in general, like nobody don't know who, don't know who the fuck we is. Like, they don't know who we are. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, when people come out here, they think of L.A. Automatically off-tops. That's time where I've been in Florida, and they already know them from California by the way I dress.

Starting point is 00:55:55 And they're like, you're from L.A.? I'm like, nigga, I'm from San Bernardino. But that's what's funny is that say you were to have a giant fucking smash radio hit tomorrow when it was, you know, the biggest song ever, motherfuckers are still just going to be like, yeah, he's from L. Yeah, automatically. Because it's close enough that it's like the way that like, if you're from Jersey, people kind of are like, yeah, he's New York, right there.

Starting point is 00:56:14 But it's cool. I mean, I just wanted people to know about San Medino. You feel me? I'm not from LA. You know what I'm saying? It's time for San Bernardino giving on the map too. Like, well, you know what I'm saying? But, and I'm going to make it happen.

Starting point is 00:56:28 I already been making it happen, bro. Like people have been paying attention to the IE period, you know, but it's like, it's just more difficult when you ain't really having it. a person boom before you in your time. Right. To put a spotlight on the eye or San Marino where people put the eye on it. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:56:46 Like, they know about San Bernardino. Like, L.A. is known. Everybody, it's so easy for a dude from L.A. to get on before a San Bernardino nigger do. You know what I'm saying? Because of the clout they have from the gangs, even from Hollywood and shit like that, they got a lot of clout out here.

Starting point is 00:57:03 We don't have that. But I don't blame people because you land in San Marino what the hell you're landing out here for it. Right. Ain't nothing out there. You just sparks my memory. I want to redo this. This is probably the most influential or legendary I-E. shade I ever read in my life.

Starting point is 00:57:16 Tyler the creator, 2019 tweeted, wanted to publicly thank my mom for not moving to the Moreno Valley or the I.E. in 2004, like a lot of people from Los Angeles did because, man, I would have sucked. Thank you. You would have sucked. I mean, you probably would have been. You definitely would have been a different kind of guy. Yeah, you, you, I mean, I mean, I,

Starting point is 00:57:39 I don't know what to say about that, bro, but shit, I mean, it's up to you. But Ceradito, yeah, I, he ain't, it's, it's, I love Samerudan, trust me, but it's not a place you can just easily make it out of, bro. Hell, no, he probably would have still been out here, bro. My mama, ain't nobody made it. Right. I'm going to make it. I'm going to make it.

Starting point is 00:58:00 Hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? Even if I die before, God forbid, but niggis going to know my music for show, you know. So. I respect it. And there ain't nobody, like you said, there's nobody that could say they put you on. There ain't like a big song

Starting point is 00:58:13 that people can point to him be like, oh, he's the dude who had the song with so-and-so. You know, just the way you've been building it up very organically, I think it's a beautiful thing. I appreciate it. For sure. I appreciate it.

Starting point is 00:58:24 But it's, I don't know, I just, I just always want to build love within myself and within my fans because they ain't going to never turn you. When you have loyal fans, they ain't going to never turn their back on you. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:58:37 Like I said, man, you just constantly getting featured. Ain't saying nothing wrong with it. But, nigga, you're not believing in your own craft to me. You feel me? Like, build your own, because once you could do a feature with the top artist or whatever and don't mean your shit going to pop. It does not mean that. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:58:54 I've seen people doing stuff with a lot of big artists and they ain't even crack like theirs because they got their own love. They don't nobody know who you are. If you make that a goal, let people know who you are about building your own love. making your own music, striving, and you know what I'm saying? Then everything's going to pop behind that. You know what I'm saying? I'm branding myself, you feel me?

Starting point is 00:59:14 So, and I'm going to keep branding myself, you know? I forgot to ask this earlier, but you got shot during COVID, huh? Yeah, I did. I got a shot. How are you feeling now? Are you, like, physically 100%? Hell yeah, I'm 10-toed, that shit tickled. And my mama.

Starting point is 00:59:31 How many times did you get hit? I got shot twice. Okay. My uncle got killed. You know what I'm saying? Wow. You know, rest in a piece, the big slink. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:59:41 Yeah, he got killed. And some other niggins, they know, I don't know. Somebody they know. He got shot, too. So it was bad, bro. Right. You know what I'm saying? It was bad.

Starting point is 00:59:53 And that's why I tell you, that far I was telling you about as far as me, wasn't going around my daughter. Because the way it happened was too dangerous. Because they, they, they niggas rode to my house. because they rode to my house. This is when you're still in San Bernardino. Yeah, I was in San Bernardina. I wouldn't listen to niggas.

Starting point is 01:00:11 Like, I told you, I've been a crash dummy. The homie's coming to me telling me, you got to get up out of here, you bigger than this. Telling me this. Everybody was telling me, and I didn't listen. It wasn't that, I really wasn't listening, but I'm like, I'm not, I'm not, like, I can't just up and go.

Starting point is 01:00:26 Until it happens, it doesn't feel like it's really necessary. Yes, like the way it happened was to, my daughter was there at first. I called my baby mama to come get her because if my time was over her as far as now, you know, and I was going to leave. My daughter left probably like 40 minutes

Starting point is 01:00:44 before them niggas came and shot my shit up. And they just shot the house up? No, they shot, I was standing outside. They was probably like, I'm not going to lie to you. When I'm sitting, they probably was like from right here to that black thing, that close. Wow. They just shot the shit up.

Starting point is 01:01:01 Shot it up, bro. And my daughter, Her little Tori shit was right there, niggins. And after I got pop, my uncle died and shit, he died right there. I watched him die. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:01:14 I'm trying to get him to stay alive. You know what I'm saying? I'm telling one of the niggas to keep slapping, because he's sitting there rubbing him and that nigger submitted to that shit. You feel me? My uncle passed away. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:01:27 Then when I got to hospital, my daughter not even knowing what's going on, she was asking her mom, like, daddy and, you know, daddy in the hospital. and I just cried to my daughter because I'm like, see, it could have been you feel me? That's why

Starting point is 01:01:39 niggas don't, niggas, you got to really, when it's game-banging bro, you got to really watch with you around, bro, because any nigga could get it. Wow. And that's and it sucks, but that's why I don't, I don't, if I go somewhere, I don't really

Starting point is 01:01:55 you know, I take my baby where I, now I move, now I'm out of that motherfucker. I'll be with my baby. You know what I'm saying? I left that shit. I left everything. But, like, I wasn't scared for me. I don't give a fuck. If my daughter wasn't here, bro, I'd be a whole different nigga. You feel me? But since I'm living for her and she didn't understand what was going on,

Starting point is 01:02:18 she was so happy to see me, I just cried like, man, you don't understand. I'm not going to tell you, though, but you don't understand that this shit could have really been you. Wow. Just because you love your daddy so much you want to be around your daddy. And your daddy wasn't even being smart enough to let you. you know or not even let you know just smart enough to even move before I

Starting point is 01:02:37 had to, I'm done, bro. Like they said, you take things for granted. You don't know until it happened. That is crazy. It took that for me to finally say, fuck, fuck, you know, fuck living out there. You feel me? But like I said, I care about mine. I'm glad that it took that. Not that way. Not like, oh, I wanted to get, no.

Starting point is 01:02:59 Like, I'm just glad it opened my eyes. I'm able to live and do it and say. some shit because you know niggas like the there's been a lot of bullshit behind that shit niggas like the spread line that rumors and you know

Starting point is 01:03:11 my family don't fuck with me because of this shit you know. Yes, there's a lot of shit going on but you know but it's you know certain people don't fuck with me because it's bullshit behind it but I just take it like a man

Starting point is 01:03:26 because like I know what happened you feel me I know what happened can no nigger tell you some shit that he wasn't there to tell you about You feel me? And if you believe a clown, you're a clown with them. What's kind of interesting about you is that a lot of people in their songs, there's dissent dead people, banging on people, et cetera, et cetera.

Starting point is 01:03:46 Like, you're not really banging on people so much, but when you had traumatic things happening, you're like getting jumped, getting shot, et cetera. You put all that in the music. Yeah, I don't care. Without necessarily. A lot of people put that in the music, but then it has to be pure revenge, retaliation music. You don't really put that part in it.

Starting point is 01:04:03 So you got to move smarter than the next dude. You tell you why? Because number one, you got to think niggas is watching and the peoples is watching you. You feel me? That's why I mean, I was saying some stupid shit before. But, man, I'm watching what I say because I don't move that way no more

Starting point is 01:04:20 because I'm never going to leave a track for me. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's stupid. Niggas, like, music is the easiest way to catch a nigga. You feel me? Especially from those boys. You know what I'm saying? easy way, but I don't say

Starting point is 01:04:35 a lot of my shit, it's real shit, and then, of course, you're gonna, everybody exaggerate certain things, you feel me, but most of my shit is real life, you know what I'm saying, but I'm just saying, because I don't, you gotta, I don't do all that, that,

Starting point is 01:04:51 I mean, if you did something to me, I'm gonna, I'm gonna talk my shit, bro, that's just me, you know what I'm saying, but. Every week I read about different rappers in jail for fucking 20 years. Or dying. And it's, it's like, fully he mapped out for the police in the lyrics. He put this song out where he said he'd like...

Starting point is 01:05:07 But it don't mean it's true, though. Right. A lot of these niggas, that shit be fiction. You know what I'm saying? But it's, I mean... But they end up doing 20 years is probably a pretty good chance that it was true. That or, you know, sometimes they just use that shit against you.

Starting point is 01:05:22 That's all it is. And a lot of that shit don't be real. But I mean, if it's real, I mean, only a dumb nigga would say some shit like that and leave evidence like that, bro. Most niggas ain't going to say a lot of that shit is just fucking made up. Like, like the niggas say, just respect a nigga for having talent. If his shit is made up, I mean, just respect them for being an entertainer.

Starting point is 01:05:40 You know what I'm saying? But we know what this nigga is and where you ain't. You feel me, that type of shit. But I don't know. It is different. For sure. What do you want for your daughter that you didn't have as a kid? I want my baby to experience shit I didn't.

Starting point is 01:05:56 Just automatically. I didn't experience traveling. You know what I'm saying? I didn't experience a lot of things, bro. And I just want her experience a best. her life automatically you know what I'm saying even like I put her in prep school I don't care she a girl for number one you know what I'm saying I don't want her being around Sam Redina I'm bitchy thing shit I'm being honest bro and it and it's facts not I'm not saying

Starting point is 01:06:15 every female from San Medina now that's not but the females I've seen and shit that I don't want her around that shit you know what I'm saying I want her to just be somebody so and if I got to move to do that I'm gonna do that I don't give a fuck what the next nigga feel as long as he don't step in my face with it you feel me but It's just like, everybody wants good for their kids. I hope. If you don't, then what the fuck you have one for? You feel me?

Starting point is 01:06:41 To make a fuck their life up like yours is. Like, come on, bro, you want to me, I feel like when you have a kid, you want another you, but a better you, you feel me? Or something that's going to continue on. A version of you that you can protect from a lot of the worst shit that happened to you, you know? Do you know how much of a blessing to have that?

Starting point is 01:07:00 Are you running around this motherfucker? Can you imagine that's why I can't respect the nigger that don't take care of his or a woman? 99% of the people you grow up around they don't get the privilege of being able to take their kid up out the neighborhood. And I ain't going to save the privilege. It's like if you want it, it can happen.

Starting point is 01:07:16 I mean, you work for it. I work for it. And that's another thing is niggas be hating. You know what I'm saying? How can you hate on the next nigga because he worked for it? When you can do it too, you got the same, you got the same 24.

Starting point is 01:07:28 It all depends on what you do with it. You got everything I got. You know what I'm saying? But do you have the drive for it? I do. You know what I'm saying? Do you want your kid to do better? Do you want yourself to do better?

Starting point is 01:07:40 Ask yourself that. I want that. And that's why it's happening. Niggas get mad at me or they won't. For what, nigga? You know what I'm saying? Y'all can do the same shit. You feel me?

Starting point is 01:07:49 And like, like, oh, nigga, I can't, this. Nigga, you could do what you want to do. You feel me? If you want to get out the hood, you could do it. One thing I tell niggas is though once you a game member is you're going to always be one. You can't, you can't, you can't, the only way that's, you go escape that is if you die.

Starting point is 01:08:09 Or you run away from me. You saying, you know what I'm saying? Because you can't say, even if you go to jail, you got to deal with that behind that. You got to deal with the niggins that banging nitty. They still know you front. You can't, the reason why you're going to always remain a game member or a gang banging because your enemy still exists.

Starting point is 01:08:27 So, nigga, rather you stop fucking gangbanging, they still know who you are. You feel me? So it's like, nigga, you could be like, oh, I'm a OG. I'm this and there. I don't do that. But niggins know who you is, though. That don't mean nothing to me. One of my relatives were just saying that to me.

Starting point is 01:08:42 They're like, why did these rappers like keep dying? I go, I'm like trying to avoid that conversation. I'm like, there's a lot of gang shit. And she's just like, she's like, why do they get rich and famous to just still be in a gang? I'm like, that's not how that I'm like, you don't get to just dip right away. You don't, but you, I mean, you can separate yourself, take a different role. Exactly, but you can't really run for me. And people still want to kill you.

Starting point is 01:09:06 Your best bet is still going to be around people you feel like you can trust, you know. Be around niggas you can trust. Move different. Move wiser than the next. Don't tell niggas where you live. I don't give a fuck of you your closest homies because you don't know when the hell y'all going to fall out. He might be on some jealous shit. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:09:24 Tell niggas where you live or even try to do some backdoor shit. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, man, you just got to. build your own destiny, I guess. You know what I'm saying? Your life is what you make it. You know what I'm saying? You live in that way and you want to stay that way.

Starting point is 01:09:40 You're going to stay that way. You feel me? You could always, like I tell my homies, my true homies, nigger, you could bring the hood with you. If that's what you won't, but ain't nothing better than money. Ain't nothing better than that. I can't never, how can you gang bang and still broke at the same damn time? You feel?

Starting point is 01:09:57 You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I want to do better for me. I'm not going to ever, like I told niggas, somebody got to be the smart nigger. You feel me? Everybody can't be a crash dummy because if we all crash dummy, we're all going to die behind this shit. Somebody got to be a smart nigga.

Starting point is 01:10:13 If I got to do that, I'm going to do it. You feel me? Somebody got to be smart out of, it can't be 10 stupid niggas. You feel me? Because all 10 are going to either die or either be in jail. So somebody got to be smart

Starting point is 01:10:25 and smarting up the rest. So it would be 10 smart niggas. And you could be an influence to, you know, know, dozens or hundreds of people from your area alone who might look at you. I interview people all the time with, like, the first person to pop off out of their city. And then there's always people right behind them who see that, and they realize that they could do something similar. That's good, though.

Starting point is 01:10:46 Like I tell, niggas, don't hate on me instead of hating on me being inspired. Nick, I don't do this to build hate. It's going to come with it, but I don't do it to build it. I want to build love, bro. I'd rather a nigger love me than hate me, because I'm talking about. tired of looking for enemies behind myself. You know what I'm saying? Niggas get tired of that shit.

Starting point is 01:11:06 You know what I'm saying? But it's just like, man, I'm glad some of the niggas that's in my circle is paying attention to what I'm doing. And they want better for themselves because you only could tell somebody so much before, you know, but I'm glad that my niggas that I hang with is paying attention to my path

Starting point is 01:11:24 and taking in trying to do something with it. You know what I'm saying? Because if not, you're going to be like the rest of these hating ass nass niggas or crash. dummy-ass niggas, you feel me, a nigga gonna always tell you some shit that he won't do that's facts. For sure. Don't ever tell me to do some shit if you ain't gonna go

Starting point is 01:11:39 do it. That's half a rap music. Yeah, that's, it's gang banging, that's rap music. That's everything, bro. You feel me? Don't tell me you to do some shit that you know. Damn world, you wouldn't do. Even if I told you or anything, you know what I'm saying? Don't tell me that, because I'm not a crash dummy. I was, but I'm not

Starting point is 01:11:55 no more. I'm too wise for it, and I'm starting to feel like, I'm trying to look for my purpose, bro, and I'm starting to see it a bit you feel me so and then that to see the uh the inspiration i have on a lot of people that shit is deep to me you feel me so it is what it is i want to inspire my homies and i want to inspire my family my fans supporters and everything you i'm inspired that's love i appreciate that let's go no i'm a big believer for sure i think you got the talent you got the star power i feel like there's only there's only big things to come for you yeah i hope so and i'm if not man it is what it is you know what i'm saying but yeah

Starting point is 01:12:28 it's good bro definitely uh Anybody want to thank and shoutouts? I want to thank my supporters for show. After God, I want to thank God. I'm not even going to lie to you. I stop believing in him. But now I'm a neutral believer, only because the shit I was going through,

Starting point is 01:12:46 you know what I'm saying? But I want to thank God. I want to thank my supporters because without my support, that's one thing as far as like being an artist and just being a person, period, you got to realize that your fans is the reason why. you're even a factor. You feel me?

Starting point is 01:13:04 A lot of famous people don't don't think they fans, bro, because without them, you won't be making that money. You know what I'm saying? You wouldn't have stages to go perform your shit at. Thank them. They made you.

Starting point is 01:13:15 You know what I'm saying? So I want to thank my fans. I want to thank my true homies that being on my side. I want to thank my baby girl. She's, of course, my number one priority because she gave me shit to live for and die for if I have to.

Starting point is 01:13:27 You know what I'm saying? I want to think my brother, you know what I'm saying, for believing the nigga of my pops. You know what I'm saying? And my family, because I just stood by my side and never folded on me, because, you know, a lot of niggas folded on me. You know what I'm saying? From families to homies, niggas folded on me.

Starting point is 01:13:43 But I just want to just, I'm just thankful, bro. You feel me? So that's all I got to say. Respect. Doggy style, No Jumber. Coolest podcast on the world. Check us on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes, like, comment, subscribe. Nojumber.com.

Starting point is 01:13:56 If you want to support. I appreciate you, man. For real. Appreciate you, family. Thank you.

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