No Jumper - The Don't Call Me White Girl Interview: Fed Case, Gillie & Wallo, Prison & More

Episode Date: February 7, 2022

For her first time in LA, Mona aka Don't Call Me a White Girl, stops by No Jumper to talk about her life before going viral, her come up, why she chose that name and more! https://www.instagram.com/do...ntcallmee... ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world, and today I'm in here with the one and only. Mona Love. A.k.a. Don't Call me White Girl. A.K. Don't Call me White Girl. Yeah. That's me. How are you doing? Philadelphia's his own. I'm doing great. I'm excited. I mean, I'm at no jumper. Are you? Yeah. I'm in L.A. It's my first time in L.A.
Starting point is 00:00:20 And you love it? I love it a lot. And you're wondering why you chose to live in Philadelphia your entire life? Yeah. I just added an extra day. That's how much I like it. A single day, though. Maybe I'll just stay forever. I mean, why not? You got space?
Starting point is 00:00:33 In my home? In this office? Yeah, somewhere. I'm going to be honest. I don't know how my girl or the baby would feel about the, but. I cook, though. You cook? I far a really good chicken.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Really? Like, I fry it well, like hard. You're going to have to bake it for us. We don't. What? We're on diets. Maybe air fryer. We do have that.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Yeah, I can do that. That's as healthy as I go. You have the air fire now. No, I don't have one. You don't have one. You don't have an operating. heard about it yeah everybody's heard about it yeah i like my shit in greece in greece okay saturated nice so okay philadelphia born and raised yeah yeah what was your uproar for some years
Starting point is 00:01:10 delaware yeah yeah delaware in philly's close like if you're in philadelphia and you want a notch above you go to delaware but what might you do in delaware nothing nothing you work you eat you poop and that's it yeah that's suburban you know suburban like life right yeah so you would escape philly from time to time head on over to Delaware. Something like that. My mom bought me as a teenager, so that's what introduced me. Small estate, right? Right, and no taxes. So I bought my first house in Delaware. Really? Yeah, because that's what you do. You go to Delaware, Adam. Okay. We'll get to the house buying. But what was your youth like, your childhood? I'm shitty. I had a really shitty childhood. I was the only child. Shout to the only children.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Where's my camera here? Um, shout to the only kids. Weirdo, you. You were a only child? Yeah, my only child. So I was raised by myself. My mother worked all the time I was by myself constantly. Right. I think maybe that's where the creativity comes from. Really? So you were by yourself throughout, like, your whole childhood? I'll put it like this. My favorite pastime, I would do like imaginary play, and I would have like a class of 30
Starting point is 00:02:13 kids because I was from North Philly and that kids would be 30 kids in class. And then I would have a principal and a teacher assistant, but I'm the only person there. Because I had to cuss the teacher assistant outside, so I had somebody to scream at. Okay. Because the principal would scream at me. Right. So you think that you were. were extra creative
Starting point is 00:02:31 because you wanted people to sort of grasp what you were doing? You spend so much time alone, all you are in is your head when you grow up like that. I got to have cousins and shit, but you know my day-to-day, I was by myself. My mother was at work. Right. Yeah. You grew up in a nice area or like... No, I'm from North Philly. North Philly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I would get on like public transportation by myself, 8-9, catch the bus, get to camp, I went to camp in the suburbs. My mother was a nurse, so my mother knew a little better. So we lived a bit better. Okay. My mother owned her house. You know, I had a radio, the three-piece. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:03:02 I don't know how old you are. Three-piece? It used to be, Adam. How old are you? No. I should have looked at it. Come on. I should have looked at it.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I'm over 30, under 40. Same. In the middle of that. I'm towards the latter end of that. Are you? 38. You look good. I'm younger to you.
Starting point is 00:03:19 It's the salads. It's the lack of fried chicken. Yeah. I'm proud of being an 80s baby, though. Because the other ones are weird. They're a bit weird. The 90s kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:29 call that. They're strange. They're complainers. They soft. They pussy. Is that the one, the 2000 kids? Yeah, the sensitive-ass kids. Yeah. We lived through the 90s. Right, where everything was offensive. The start of reality television. Real world. Jerry Springer. Heather B.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Monie Love. Heather B. You don't remember Heather B from the real world? Sure, she's on the radio now, yeah. I just remember when the cowboy dude thought that she was a drug dealer because she had a pager. And when I went to do Sway's show, I was so geek because I thought I was going to meet her, and then it was like a different show.
Starting point is 00:03:59 She wasn't there. Yeah. And you know, they just did a reboot. With all the original cast? Kind of, the Tammy cast. Remember Tammy Roman? You remember her cast? The L.A. cast.
Starting point is 00:04:08 If I saw them, I probably... Because I watched, like, the first, like, eight or nine seasons before I stopped. So I know you saw it. Remember when the black guy dragged the girl through the house? That's Tammy. And Tammy did reality television after that, basketball-wise, and she doing stuff in BET. Tammy, I feel like I watched her grow on television. You think that made that seem worse than it was?
Starting point is 00:04:26 Like, the dude was dragging the girl around by the blanket, but... The way it appears, Tammy made it worse. But technically, I'm a woman. I'm not supposed to say that. Right, but she kind of, like, hyped it up and, like, made it seem to see me. I'm not supposed to say she hyped it. She loved it. She enjoyed the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:04:38 So you're allowed to doubt anybody's narrative. She enjoyed the whole fucking thing. The whole thing was like, ah, then when she went to the bathroom and thought about that thing, she was like, I think my pussy was out. Did I shave?
Starting point is 00:04:49 You know what I mean? Because as a woman, you get ready for stuff like that, get the cat ready for different situations. So she might have just had it lay around the house cat. Now this motherfucker exposes it. Right. And everybody seen how Harry the cat. cat get. Been a bunch of times in my life
Starting point is 00:05:01 where you're hanging out with a girl, you're trying to get her alone, you're trying to come back to the crib, and you very much get the feeling that she's saying no, but she doesn't really want to say no, she just knows that her vagina is not in a fuckable state at that moment. That is the smartest thing I think I heard of me and say, because
Starting point is 00:05:17 a guy would get so upset and it's like, no, I didn't shower. But like, if a girl's on her period, you'll be able to tell it because she'll just be like, no. It's not happening. But when you know the pussy's a little yucky, then they'll be like, ah, I can't. Phelps says debris. Phelps says debris.
Starting point is 00:05:31 That's his thing. When the ass gets debris in it. Oh, there's debris in there, yeah. DNA, all that shit. The best sex is like the funky sex a little bit. Do you think? Yeah, for sure. Like when you're not supposed to be doing it?
Starting point is 00:05:41 How funky? Not, come on. Like I haven't shower for three days. No, not homeless. Y'all live together? I hit my girl with that sometimes. If y'all live together, you don't know shower for three days. It's a ghost still.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah. Depending on the debris. But I do feel like it's disrespectful. To who? Her? Oh, because of you? I'm subjecting you to this filthy dick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:59 So she's freshly showering here three days in? Yeah, that's disrespectful. That's what I thought. Yeah, that's what I'll leave. Get the fuck out of. Find somewhere to go. For sure. Okay, so what do you like through high school?
Starting point is 00:06:11 What personality type do you take on? I went to like, I was funny and shit always. And I went to, I was just, I get suspended. And I went to jail, ninth grade. I started early getting in trouble. Ninth grade, you're going to jail. Yeah, I went to jail. I went to jail.
Starting point is 00:06:25 But you know that they locked the kids for prison pipeline. They do that for money. Now when I look back on it, I needed therapy, and I'm not jail. You know what I mean? What did you do? You stab somebody? Hit a teacher. With a knife?
Starting point is 00:06:37 My hands. Okay. We were handed and handed it. You just swung on or what should do? Shout out to Miss St. Julian, bitch. That's pretty cool you can remember even one teacher's name because I got none. I don't have any, but the ones I got into little scuffles with, I remember. She was telling me to lead a room, right?
Starting point is 00:06:53 And it was a packed house, a packed class, because it always was like stand-up. I'm telling jokes. You know, I'm living my life. life. And she told me to leave and I'm like, okay, I'll leave, but of course I have to do my exit. So I'm like, boo-bee, I'm going to call you. I meet you at lunch, right? Shoutouts on the way out the door. See you at the locker room. And she's like, let's go. And I'm like, get me, Chiquita called me and then she gives me a shove or two. And I gave her a few back. Okay. You know what I mean? That was it. But I went to jail for that. I got in trouble and
Starting point is 00:07:26 I got kicked out of school. The best part of that whole story is being a happened in the ninth grade, my rep was crazy, because by the time the shit got around the school, they were saying I threw the bitch down the steps. So niggas treat me like a gangster the whole time, like, you know her, that's the one that beat the teacher up. Wow. That's the one that's through the teacher out the window, you know what I mean? That's really cool. And I never, like, debated, like, notice what happened. I always was like, yeah, that's me. That was the beginning of you building your influence. My rep. You know what I'm saying? Before it was followers, it was your rep. Yeah, exactly. No, I hated school, though. I really did. It was a terrible place, public
Starting point is 00:07:56 school. How long did they keep you locked up? Um, no, I didn't. I didn't do like time. I just went, you know, stay, bailed out, and then I went to, like, the little kiddie jail, school jail type of vibe. You know what I mean? Okay. Yeah. So they were sorting you out like that? They put you in a different school. Let me put this out there. First of all, my mother paid for an attorney. Like, I remember that clearly. She was like, no way. They're not going to throw you in jail. You know what I mean? So without the attorney, who knows? With the attorney, I got that kind of deal where if I went to this place and I, my behavior was better, blah, blah, blah. I could get back to regular schools to have a regular graduation.
Starting point is 00:08:29 remember in school there was always like the kid whose parents would take the kid's side against the school and I was always jealous because anytime I got in trouble my parents were like on the school side they were on the cop side they were like you got arrested for shoplifting like there's no chance that you didn't do it like they knew I was guilty they were on the side of the cops my mother was on the side of school not the police okay not the police like at all I remember them being like you need to come back to the school because I wasn't supposed to leave school after that I was supposed to stay go to jail whatever my mother took me was that Like, they want you to come get you.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And I'm like, Mom, no, they said, come on. If they want you, they come get you. And then we stayed and they call and called. Then eventually I turned myself. And first she kept saying, those motherfuckers going to need a bulldozer to get this girl out this house. But after like a week, it subsided. And we went, but we had an attorney. My mom didn't fuck around.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Niggas don't trust the government. You know what I mean? I did not go in until I had a fucking attorney. And I was like 14. That's smart. For sure. It sounds crazy when I say the story like that. What a, do you?
Starting point is 00:09:29 keep getting in trouble throughout high school? Yeah, but like suspended, not like jail. Nothing crazy, okay. Just like, you know. And were you in the streets, as they say? I wasn't in the streets per se, but I knew like that people like drugs. So like my remember I dated a guy who had ADD, he had Adderall, so I sold Adderall. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:47 I always said at the streets. I also worked. Feels like a victimless crime. It is a victim. Selling drugs, period, is victimless to me. No. I was thinking about it the other day. You should.
Starting point is 00:09:57 You think? I heard great things. I have ADD. though, that's the thing. I heard that all these fucking journalists in New York and shit that they're all on Adderall. No, it's not just journalists,
Starting point is 00:10:05 it's everybody's on Adderall. Let me tell you something, follow me here. Gunner's on Adderall. In a couple years, I love Gunner. Me too, but he just seems like he's probably on Adderall. He has a song called Adderall. I know, but then there was a clip that came out of him
Starting point is 00:10:17 talking about the pushing P thing, and he's just like, you're pushing peevee. He was just talking about it, and it's like, oh my God, like I can see the Adderall oozing out of his body. Pause. that the whole gunner thing threw me off
Starting point is 00:10:30 Gunna I know I say Gunner And I know gunners though I know people named Gunner I can't really separate the two Right Yeah Gunna is amazing
Starting point is 00:10:40 I love him Okay And I love the album So you're still in the early stages Of your podcasting career Where you're sort of shooting shots At all these rappers I've been shooting shots
Starting point is 00:10:48 at all these rappers Since I had like 3K Or anything Respect Straight up I just asked Big 30 But his cash at was Big 30
Starting point is 00:10:55 Why do you want his cash shop? I don't know I just like him. You want to just help him live his day? It was his birthday. He's going to buy lean with it. That's his decision. I don't judge you for drugs, Adam.
Starting point is 00:11:05 That's his decision. No, I have to tell you something that's very important. You see how this big... Shout out Big 30 though. I like him. Yeah, I like Big Day. And I think he should get with you. When he's in town.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Okay. You know how they had this big thing with the, like, oxy-contin and perkinsed at the opiate big thing, right? That's going to be Adderall in like two years. Because the way those. problems start is the doctors over-prescribing them to make money. Because pharmaceutical companies should not be money-making companies because they help people live.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I don't think Adderall kill you the same way that Oxy's will. I mean, it just causes other issues like with your heart and shit like that, especially when you overusing it. It's more long-term. It took them a while to figure. But Adderall's been around longer than Oxy's and shit, right? I don't know because I just know both of them were pushed in the 90s and they're this big now. Adderals, everybody's on Adderon.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Everybody. And it's a, like it's that type of thing. It doesn't have. It's not taboo. So people are open with it because they feel like you get more done. Most people do it with that in mind. I'm going to get this done. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:03 I'm very conscious of my like long-term health and like how I feel in the long run. And I feel like when I take Adderall, I feel and kind of look like a fucking tweaker. Like my mouth is moving around and shit. It has like that upper thing. I have a lot of energy normally. The Starbucks makes it a little bit more extreme. The Adderall would send me off the fucking rails. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I mean, I have ADD. So I feel like if I took it, which is probably like organize my shit. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because like when I have done Adderall, it is cool because it makes you laser focused on one thing. For sure.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Which is nice. Yeah. For me, there's five million things that I'm like trying to work on in any given day. Shout out to the adults with ADD. I just saw a commercial. It really made me feel for us. It was like it touched me here.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yeah. Shout out to all you fucking meth heads out there. It's hard to focus. So, okay. What do you do when you finish high school? I was supposed to go to college, like HBCU because HBCUs take niggas regardless. Like my grades were
Starting point is 00:12:59 terrible. Historical black college. Yes. University? You can't be college university, right? Yeah, that's right. Collegiate university? Yeah, that's something. Whatever. Either way, I was supposed to go to North Carolina one of them, A&T, one of them or something. Instead...
Starting point is 00:13:15 You're saying that they'll just take anybody? Yes, they will. They really work with you to get you in. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, they'll find some place to place you. Interesting. To get more. more niggas in college, Adam. Yeah, you got to respect it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:28 How was it? Or where did you end up going? I end up going to fucking community somewhere. Because this is what happened. That summer, I met a drug dealer. It was my first drug dealer boyfriend. I was like, I'll do this. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:42 And to what is... I'll go with him. I didn't go to school. How extreme was his drug dealing? I used to count like 50,000 cash from $75,000. He was a drug dealer. Selling what? Coke?
Starting point is 00:13:52 Yeah. Sell powder. You were doing it too? Like, wait. Doing coke? Yeah. No, I don't do cold. You never did it? No. Wow. Better man than man. I tried cocaine in Puerto Rico with a drag queen. Went in Rome. Yeah. But I didn't feel it. That's why I was like, did I try it? Because why didn't do this? Like, nothing happened. I still do a dummy pack. I plan on, like, being on coke once I'm rich, because that's in my future. And I feel like that's the drug of the rich. Honestly, if you're going to
Starting point is 00:14:18 do coke, get it out of your system young. The problem with coke is, though, the way you have to do is it's weird. You'll fuck your nose up in the long run too. Yeah, just, I don't know. But I did try it. Say what? You could put in your booty hole. It's always an option.
Starting point is 00:14:33 We'll talk about it later. I mean, I'm not saying I've done it. I just know that there are people doing that. What the way you said? It was like you'd experience it, but it's no judgment either way. I think people are putting every drug in their ass. I didn't know anything about that.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Yeah. So it makes me like, how do you know? No, I just, I'm a white person and I know about all kinds of weird-ass white people shit. You are white. That is true. What's your sign? Sagittarius. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:56 You're a white Sagittarius. Like a double whammy. Wait, so, okay. No, white people are cool. But no, I didn't go to school, and I ended up getting in trouble and shit. You know what I mean? Really?
Starting point is 00:15:07 Because I want the kids at home to know if I went to school, I would have been on a different track. Right, but instead you're driving around with Beanie Siegel all around town. Something like it. Really? It was someone else from The Rock?
Starting point is 00:15:17 No, it wasn't. No. Of course not. Come on. Okay. You're not going to air them out. Being a single is my favorite rapper. I want you to know that.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I love rap. I'm not really R&B girl. Yeah. I want you to know that too. Woman after my own heart because I hate R&B. Do you? Don't understand it at all.
Starting point is 00:15:30 If you had to listen to R&B would it be like 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s. Oh yeah, I forgot that old shit, Motown and stuff like that. But when people would be trying to get me to listen to fucking Alicia Keys and shit, I'm like, I don't know. Really?
Starting point is 00:15:40 Yeah, I liked Akees' first album. Yeah. I just picked a random woman's name. I don't know. But high school, I listened to R&B because I thought I was supposed to. So I know all that stuff that came over in that time But I like rap
Starting point is 00:15:50 R&B makes you sad It's like you like oh he loved He cheetahs just no I like more fuck them niggas kill everybody That's what I'm saying Yeah when my guy AD He made me a playlist Of all the R&B stuff that he loves
Starting point is 00:16:03 And my basic statement After I listen to it was It's just a bunch of dudes Talking about how good they are at fucking Exactly I don't want to hear it And then most of them were gay So it's like you're really singing about a butthole
Starting point is 00:16:14 That fucks the thing up Like Luther Randross Perfect he's in Love Luther. Everybody loves him. He was talking about bows. Right. There's no judgment, but it's just like, man. I just don't find the lyrical content interesting. I mean, I find a lot of lyrical content rap-wise really fucking boring too, but... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:30 At least it seems somewhat useful as opposed to just like, oh, I'm feeling on your body. I'm like, what? I definitely like something. I like Jasmine Sellevin. She makes me cry sometimes. You see what I'm saying? I don't want to listen to shit and cry. Right. I want to listen to shit and, like, work out. But when R&B changed to the point where people were like also talking about,
Starting point is 00:16:47 talking about, like, their car and their jewelry and the same breath that they're talking about rubbing on your booty. Yeah. I like the R&B that's, like, nasty or kind of, like, sit on it. That's Jasmine Selleons. I like that. She's talking about sitting on the dick. So it's not so like, oh, one is like, I want to fuck you. Right. Because women, I feel like
Starting point is 00:17:05 women are just as sexual as men, but the R&B for some reason, people didn't used to do that. You know what I mean? Like, not as much as they do now. But someone gave me the Erica Badoo album, Badoism. And I had it in my car and I realized that I had a CD player so I put it in there and I listened to that
Starting point is 00:17:21 shit a bunch of times and I was fucking with it because it didn't it felt lofty it felt like spiritual like she was talking about important things to her it wasn't just like oh I'm trying to fuck you oh it feels so good fucking you I want to fuck you again
Starting point is 00:17:36 maybe I don't want to fuck you anymore I feel like that's what like most R&B is it's pretty much just those themes repeated yeah me too it's not my thing okay so tell us about the day that you got busted with that work? I end up going to the feds at like
Starting point is 00:17:52 21 or 22 because what happened was this is really what happened. When I graduated high school I had lived a suburban lifestyle for like six, seven years. But everything in me was like you got to move back to North Philly. You need to be in North Philly. So I moved to North Philly. I'm 18. I have a nice
Starting point is 00:18:09 little car and everything. I'm super suburban. I moved to the projects. I moved to 23rd and Edgeley. Shout to North Philly, down the street projects. But it totally like fucked my head up a little bit like it kind of changed what my plans were you know what I mean my peers changed everything changed now this is me looking back well you start seeing this like fast money you get the 50 grand on the ground you're like I'm working my ass off trying to get a job I'm gonna make 30 grand a year going to school to get all this debt like no I thought like that then
Starting point is 00:18:34 but by the time I was like 20 I was already on survival mode with no plan because it's like shit don't work that's not your boyfriend no more you know so I end up moving like out the county up the Poconos and I start selling drugs up there. It's crazy. I went up there and tried to go to community school, community college. They wouldn't let me in because of my ID. Some of bullshit I had to wait. And I met somebody. I met a cop, matter of fact,
Starting point is 00:18:56 who, I don't even know if he worked at the time, but he definitely was a police officer. He was just telling me how much more they pay for drugs there versus in Philly or other places. So when I went to Philly to, like, visit, I looked around and I bought a ballgame. And I took the ball game back up.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And I made, like, triple. Is a ball game? A eight ball? Yeah. So I spent $80 on eight ball, took it up, the polka nose made 300, 350, something like that. Right. Yeah, because you make 100 a gram. Just rinse a repeat.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Exactly. You just kept going with it? Yeah. But I got indicted probably like a year or two later up there. How come? Or a year later. Somebody snitched on you?
Starting point is 00:19:32 No, yeah, yeah. But it's really... Because I feel like selling drugs in my mind, it should be hard to get caught because it's like, you know, I feel like I've been searched so few times in my life and like having a fucking eight ball in your pocket is just so small.
Starting point is 00:19:47 But you're also white. This is true. I realize that. But like I could just imagine myself having an eight ball on me for my entire life and never getting caught. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:56 But, granted you, eight ball's not going to last you that long. Would you boof it if you had to? I would boof anything if I had to. And that's my thing. I hate that about men. Like I'll say would you boof it? They're like, no,
Starting point is 00:20:05 when boof it was like, so you'll get a five year little stunt instead of putting it up your ass, God gave you a pocketbook? I mean, you go to prison. You're going to be boofing a fucking iPod Nana or something. You see, that consequence.
Starting point is 00:20:16 You understand what I'm saying? Exactly. Do it now, do it later, nigga. I'd be throwing a nano in there if I have to. Please. I know bitches that booth the whole car. I got it. Give it.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I got it. Here. Anyway, but no, basically, I knew not to deal with this one person. And I feel like he watches my stuff, but I knew not to deal with him because he was like hot up there. Okay. And I dealt with him. So eventually I end up getting indicted through him.
Starting point is 00:20:40 So somebody connected to him told on him and we went. What kind of evidence do they have on you? Fucking, a plate with, like, crack on it. They had actual pistols. They had heroin. Oh, that they found in your crib? No, they found it outside the crib, but it's the feds. They do what they want.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Okay. Yeah, they found it outside the house. Not even on the grounds, really, it was at the neighbor's crib. Why was it a federal case? Because when you and them, first of all, it's the combination of different shit, right? Like, you got guns and the drugs together. The guns protecting the drugs are you out there. And then on top of it, I feel like those little suburban areas, they'll hit you harder when you
Starting point is 00:21:13 from out of time. town and that's why they try to call the feds to indict you they try to like stop niggas from coming up there when those small towns that's all they want those towns are drug towns like that's like that's how niggas live you go out of town because they just sitting there waiting for it and it's judges lawyers everybody everybody get high it's just what you want pick you know what's going on they know people come from out of town to sell drugs here yeah it's a fucking what for it though supplying them niggas what they're going to do drive to philadelphia they're not doing that they don't even know where to go so it's like if don't nobody bring it up there then what
Starting point is 00:21:41 yeah the world will fall apart you are making it seem pretty easy or just an obvious business opportunity. I mean, why wouldn't you? As soon as I heard about, I'd jump right in. Something similar to our niggas did Bitcoin. You know what I mean? But it was like paper money for me. Like, I thought I was so rich.
Starting point is 00:21:56 It was crazy. Because you had what? How much you had? 50 grand? No, no. He stayed like 15, 20. I was always scared to get a lot. So I was always like a smaller.
Starting point is 00:22:04 And I thought that that would keep me from going to jail wrong. If I could look back on it, I would say, fuck it. Right. You know what I mean? So you play guilty or? Motherfucking right. Okay. motherfucker right. I had a cold defendant too.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Okay. I had a cold defendant and we like, we were able to talk like through the toilet through the window so we like coincided each other so we did well together. You know what I mean? Really? Yeah, because they try to separate you. Yeah. And for him, I'm chilly. You see me shivering? Are you? They could turn the heat over.
Starting point is 00:22:32 No, I'm good, but I'm just, I'm always cold. I'm a real black girl. I'm cold all the time. I eat ice. Hose don't get cold. Cardi B. told us that. I don't know hell then. I know, but she said that like about like girls that wear like crazy-ass outfits out at night. That's a different dedication. Hose never get cold.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Yeah, that's a different thing, though. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but, um. My girl, I just always remind her that whenever she bitching about, like, oh, I'm too cold. That's what you say to your woman. Yeah. Like, you want to look good or you want to be comfortable? Fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Poor girl. This is a brandy. We leave in the house. You got to try to look good. Yeah, I guess. Especially out here. Everybody looks good out here. Do they?
Starting point is 00:23:07 They like filters, walking filters. Some girls are like, I wanted to, like, to see if she was real. Really? Where are you hanging out? I went to station That was cool Bro You're gonna name a bunch of clubs
Starting point is 00:23:17 I never heard of Listen I went to the station 1650 1840 Right My nigga I'm sitting in a section Right
Starting point is 00:23:25 You know who's in the other section I hate to do this on camera But you know who's in the other section Tiffany fucking Haddish Making good Was this the night She got the DUI
Starting point is 00:23:35 From Philly Huh Tiffany Haddish She got a DUI the other day Right I don't know Did she I hope not
Starting point is 00:23:41 Unless the news is lying I hope not That sucks She did. Did you send her a shock? Because if so, you're complicit in this crime. No, I didn't send her anything. I'm from Philadelphia, so I didn't even look her direction.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Like, the feeling in me, I can't even like smile back. You know what I mean? That's Joe. So I didn't look at her at all. I was screaming from inside of all. That's cool that you've been in LA such a short period of time that you're impressed by seeing her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:02 No, that's not it. I've seen her backstage at a show and I don't even think twice about it. Adam, you're Adam fucking jump right. What I'm saying to you is the next spot. We go to fucking shout to Jossi, happy birthday Jossi. We go to Jossi's birthday birthday birthday. party. Guess who walk in in slippers? Who? Puff fucking daddy. M. Now that that I, top that I, my heart would start beating right there.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Stop daddy was in there. Puffy done some shit. Not that she hasn't, but puppy. He looks amazing. Really? Yes, I'm a big fan of Pupp day. I'm a 90s kid. Bad boy. I wanted to do a little jig for that nigga, but I fell back. You know what I mean? Again, really didn't look at him, didn't look at him. Purfiel, purfiel, you know what I'm saying? Because you're from the East Coast, you got to play cool. You can't fan out, right? I don't speak to my family. I don't speak to my family if they're too far apart because I got to yell the name. Okay. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Aren't you in prison in the story still? All of a sudden you start detouring into Puff Daddy. That's the ADD thing. You got to bring me back on track. You're the host. That's cool. You're a podcaster. Yeah, so, but I ramble on them on mine.
Starting point is 00:24:59 They love it. You need somebody like me to like tether you to reality and kind of be like, hey, hey, hey, hey. That's supposed to be Tom. That's Tom or Phelps. One of them does that. Okay. Sometimes. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:09 The people like it. Definitely. No, but I've seen this dynamic where you have, a girl who's full of energy and she talks a lot. She's, but she's sort of flighty. Like she tends to not stay on topics. You need somebody to sort of rein it in. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:21 So it's like an organized chaos. Yes. Because what happens is, is that I'll be talking about eating ass and then I'll cut it off and then it'll end and then people will be in my DM or they'll message me like, you never finished about how you eat the ass. You know what I mean? I wouldn't have expected that from you.
Starting point is 00:25:36 What? Eating ass? Yeah. I don't eat ass yet. I will, though. You will. You look for the right guy? Puffy?
Starting point is 00:25:42 Husband? No. My husband, I'll eat his ass. If he wants it. If my husband wants his ass, I'll eat this. And I'm saying that finally here, because I think I've been edging towards that for a long time. But if my husband wants his ass, I'm eating that shit. Right. Just to put it in perspective for you, I had a video go viral on Twitter at one point. Actually, I didn't tweet. My girl put it up. But it's her sucking my dick. This other girl eat my ass. And then I do a flip. I do a 180. And all of a sudden, my girl's eating my ass and the other girls suck my dick. So for real, real life? You? You? Who? Wow. I didn't even retweet it because I try not to retweet porn or anything. I wouldn't, I totally feel like I know you get your ass at. You give me that, but I wouldn't give you that you were doing on camera and it would be on the internet. I don't know you like that. I was a team player that day.
Starting point is 00:26:27 That's fucking, that's amazing. I'm impressed by the flip. That's what the fuck I'm talking about. Thank you. I try not to bring it up too much because I don't like to brag. I hate how men are like, I hate the men are like, oh, don't eat my ass. It's so annoying. Listen, why would Jesus put a glen in your ass to me?
Starting point is 00:26:42 makes you feel good if he didn't want you to fuck with it. From my experience, it doesn't feel that good. Because I had a doctor jam his finger in my ass a couple months ago for the first time because they were like a, I had like a weird like infection in my prostate or something. I had to take an antibiotic for a couple of weeks to make you go away. Yeah, I'm fine now, but he fucking was trying to figure it out. Like, so he had me pee in a cup. And then he fucking jams his finger with a rubber glove on in my ass to try to make come come out of my dick.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And it only was like the tiniest little dribble. Wait, can we slow down a little bit? Terrible. Wait a minute, Adam. I'm like, dudes do this. Adam, I really am interested in this. Can we slow it down a bit? Okay, so the point of the thing, first of all, how much finger?
Starting point is 00:27:21 I don't know. I was like, I was like, ah, if you could gauge it, would you? He had a rubber glove on covering in lube. I wouldn't be surprised if you got in full second knuckle. I don't think he hit the third knuckle, though. Okay, okay. So now the second thing is the point of that was for you to come. Yeah, a little bit.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Because they're trying to figure out if you have this certain thing that they can run a test on inside of your cum and that will prove to them that you like. But why not like a hand job or something? Bro, I mean, if this dude started jerking me off, I'm not, I'm not feeling that. I mean, you could have did it yourself. You could have did it yourself. I don't know. But it's something with your prostate. I think they have to stimulate your prostate to make this happen.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I didn't know that a doctor would even, but that even proves my point more. But that was the first time, actually, no, the other time I had a colonoscomy where they fucking, you don't have to, you don't eat. for like a whole day and then they end up putting their finger in your ass to like see if there's any like cancer or anything growing in there. Are you good back there? Everything good? Seems fine. God bless you.
Starting point is 00:28:18 But I'm also, I, my girl. How would you get an infection of your ass, Adam? That's the last one. I don't know. But either way, my girl's tried to finger my ass before and I'm not having it. So you don't like it. Absolutely not. But you tried it.
Starting point is 00:28:31 She poked it one time. She's licked it. But I'm like, do not attempt to cross the seal. Why? I just don't. I just don't. want to find out what that's all about. I don't know. I think that people enjoy it,
Starting point is 00:28:44 and I don't think people, men, make other men feel bad about it. No, yeah, it's great if you're into it. I don't think I'm into it. Yeah, and I don't think that it means that you're homosexual at all. You're homosexuals if you sneak and suck your friend's dick sometime. Because that's what going on more than not. More than not, it's not guys getting a little finger of the ass by their girls that are gay. It's more the real tough guys that hang out all the time and they fuck each other and ass sometimes when nobody's paying attention.
Starting point is 00:29:07 The only thing that can make you gay is if you are, doing sexual activities with another man. I read on Twitter that you gave you eat bonus wings. I would say uncultured. Because that's weird to me. It is. Like, why the fuck are you ordering bone swings, bro? You didn't have enough chicken nuggets in your life as a kid.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Somebody in his room had bone swings last night, but I don't want to bring it up. Oh, probably from fucking dominoes or something? No, I'd really know the person. Oh, on your team. Yeah, my team. Or maybe. Maybe he'll be on the team. I don't know how long it'll stay with no bones.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Yeah, I can't do that. It's weird. We have a fucking a wing place that comes every Wednesday after the podcast and they bring all like eight different flavors of wings and we all be going crazy. What the fuck is today? Today's the wing and shit. No wings today.
Starting point is 00:29:55 So you're in prison. Yeah. For how long? First I go because they come, they get you out the house and all that. Okay. They refused bail. This was so sucky. It was like the most suckiest part because I'm standing there and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:30:09 I got money in my attic, nigga. How much? You know what I mean? What's up? Right. And then the judge was like making this speech or dangerous to the community and my grandkids can't play. And I'm like, what the fuck do the fuck. Were you involved in any shootings or anything?
Starting point is 00:30:20 Fuck no. I was just in my house, you know, allegedly selling crack and stuff. You know what I mean? Not even. You were cooking it? Yeah. So you could fact check like the songs about cooking crack? You can be like, no, that's not how that goes.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Kind of for sure, yeah. It's crazy because people really do shit like that. Like people say to me, yeah, I used to sell drugs and they say some cockamamie shit that don't make no sense. But just like, am I supposed to be like, no, real weight? Now I look like a ghetto-ass bitch, so I just leave it there. It was like, no, nigga, you didn't sell drugs. You're lying. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Why would you lie about a crime that you didn't commit? This thing is so strange. Why, yeah. Why does everybody want to be a drug deal? I feel like the past 40 years of rap. I don't know. I guess so. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Me personally, looking back, like, shit, I would have liked to avoid that shit. Jail's not a place for humans. The first time I went, and literally the only one, black people were inmates. So every guard's white, right? And I went and they helped me with our bail for 90 days, something like that, no bill. When let me out? And I had to do this and do that. Like, they got so petty, traffic tickets I couldn't get out. I had to, like, fix the traffic ticket in Delaware, fix the drive-line license in Philadelphia. Like, I had to do all that they had to get out. From jail paying people on the street, you know what I mean? That's crazy. Yeah, but I got, like,
Starting point is 00:31:35 thorough. My best friend's been my best friend for a thousand years. She's like a lawyer. How many years in prison did you end up done? I go year. Oh, just a year? Yeah, but I just, I went back the time or two. But it was pretty traumatic. Yeah, it was terrible.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Like, in jail always feels like you don't know if you're going to die. Like, they're going to kill y'all or they're going to rape you. That's how it feels. Like, you never know when he's going to come in like, yeah, bitch, you know what time it is. There was like alpha male girls who were like fucking raping people and shit. All the CEOs were raping people?
Starting point is 00:32:04 I've never felt more uneasy by an inmate versus a CO. You feel? Yeah, these regular niggas, I will fight you, bitch. Like, that ain't, you know what I mean? I wasn't somewhere where, like, knobs were big, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:16 So it was like, this is hand-in-hand combat, bitch. I'm about $2.50 at the time. A big bitch, we could go. That's not a problem. Yeah, that's a big girl. I lost some weight. Nice. The biggest I was was $2.85.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Damn. My ass was so fat, though. You see? I'll show you later. Okay. Were you attracting a different type of guy at that point? For sure. Like, once I lost weight, I lost like 100 pounds.
Starting point is 00:32:37 all the young dudes came. How'd you lose it? Adderall? Coke. Low carb diet. I mean, whatever you got to do. Yeah, it was cool down. Health is wealth.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Yeah. Okay, so how do you, like, how do you proceed to your life after you get out of that? Honestly, the honest truth is it really fucked with my confidence, bro. Like, I felt like I walked because I remember, because I first got out
Starting point is 00:33:01 and then I had to still fight from the street and then go back in for, you know, sentence and all that. But like, I lost my car, I lost my house. You know what I'm saying? I just felt like a loser. Why do you lose your house in your car?
Starting point is 00:33:11 Because they take that shit. They just take it because they feel like it's been purchased with the proceeds from your criminal enterprise. There's so many different ways that they take it. But they figure out a way for you to lose your shit. They don't, they ripped my shit out. I was like renting at the time.
Starting point is 00:33:24 You know what I mean? They ripped every piece of her house apart and you know what I'm saying? Damn. Ripped a vent towel. Just did dump shit. Let the doors wide open. Wow. When I sent my dad up there days later,
Starting point is 00:33:33 niggas was walking in the street with my computer because they figured it out like she didn't you know, I'm just take that shit. Wow. Yeah. A lot of wild shit going on out there. It sucks. Okay, but then. But no, it fucked with my confidence at him.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Like that whole, and then even later, when I'm done it, I'm sentenced, and it's now it's time to, like, get a new light. You're a felon now, and you have to discuss that. Like, you know, I know now they're changing that and all that. But back then, it's like, what's your felony for? Right. Oh, all right. So cocaine, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:01 Like, that shit, like, bro, you're not getting an old job. I don't care what they say. And I think that's why I've recidivism. And that's how it is because it's like you're already, to be real, you already used to a certain income, take care of yourself independently, whatever, right? And you go to jail. And right now, county prisons charge for you to be there.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Like, when I got niggas in jail and I send the first 200, the county keep that. Then you got to wait for the next piece of money. It's a jail fee to be in jail now. You pay. Wow. Yeah. So it's like you already fucked up, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:28 even if you got support, you come home, you go get this job. The only jobs you can get are the lowest paying jobs. And it's not just that. Because I feel like a lot of people that have ever experienced it. Like, you should work at McDonald's, work your way from the bottom. But it's like the lowest-paid job also comes with the most disrespect. So it's like to be realistic, what person that was their own accountant, you know what I mean, security, advertising, marketing, this type of person, a drug dealer, what person's about to let this bitch in college talk to her crazy because you want me to dump the fries?
Starting point is 00:34:55 Like, bitch, watch your mouth. I'm leaving. You know what I mean? They talk to you like shit. You know, people pick those positions of power to treat you like shit. But if you're not willing to do that, then you're basically admitting that you kind of. are going to have to stay in prison, right? Because if you can't just sort of do the shitty job, then...
Starting point is 00:35:10 You have to figure out in the middle. You know what I mean? You have to find a middle ground. But I just feel like for us to have more people in jail than anywhere else, there's no game playing when these niggas get out. I just don't understand what is the goal of it. I don't think that people are ever going to look at jail, like nothing but a hustle, right?
Starting point is 00:35:26 Until it's a thing, like a real rehabilitative situation. If not, everybody just getting paid off niggas going in and out of jail. and people are sitting in jail for selling weed. That's fucking crazy. That makes no sense. The same hustle that niggas get money on and go to jail forever now like all these billionaires
Starting point is 00:35:45 about to get rich off of it. Like how does that make sense? Like why wouldn't the people get out of jail that's selling it, that sold it 10 years ago? It's ridiculous. None of that shit makes sense. That's why nobody trusts that shit
Starting point is 00:35:54 or respect it. Like me, I've never had a respect for the law or anything like that. Like I just don't. I don't trust them. There's nothing trusting about them. Right. The first conflict was my kids
Starting point is 00:36:04 because it's like I want to be honest with my kids but I don't want to say, yo, you can't trust them. They get lost in the park and they don't run up to the cop to say I need help. But that's how strong my views are about them niggas.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Me, my mother, I come from that. We all feel the same. You tell your kid not to go talk to the cops. No, no, no, I don't. But I'm saying that's the first time I ever even thought like what would be the other because they are here to help. And you talk about a child,
Starting point is 00:36:25 that's what a child would have to do. Have you had that many bad experiences with cops and not outside of your criminal activity because obviously that's the cops' jobs just to bust you. Every incident I've ever had when the police officers has been bad, even when I watch them. My aunt was like 50. I've seen it got ripped her out the house, beat her up, because she's talking shit out the door.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I've never seen like a good cop. I never, I don't have those experiences. The niggas nasty, they rude, they underpaid, they stupid, they slow, dumb and shit. Real easy to trick. You know what I mean? But I got pulled over once, right? I'm sitting next to my mother. I hand my mother's information to the cop.
Starting point is 00:36:59 He takes it. He believes that I'm 50-something. My 50-year-old mother sitting next to me. That's the police. Wow. That's an investigative police officer. So you're just proven that we need, like, better trained cops to be able to apprehend criminals like yourself?
Starting point is 00:37:11 We need better trained cops to be able to not shoot Americans every motherfucking day for no reason. That's why we need better trained cops because the niggas look bad out here. They got a lot of bad press, you feel, I mean they got a shitty job and they don't get paid enough. Cops and teachers should get paid the most. So you don't think that we should defund the police? You think we should pay them more? When I hear the defund the police movement, I totally understand it, but just me how I grew up I can't see it
Starting point is 00:37:35 you understand what I'm saying? Seems ridiculous From my perspective it's mostly the people who are saying that are white people who don't ever have to deal with serious crime Don't need them niggas like that It's a luxury belief Yeah I want my 6 year old I live in a project It's a belief you could only really have if you
Starting point is 00:37:50 Don't need the cops to help you with something At some point in your life right? I don't feel like I need them niggas but at the same time My 60 year aunt lives in the projects I want her to be able to call the police and I want them to help her because she's worked the whole fucking life and she pays her fucking taxes
Starting point is 00:38:05 so most likely they'll call her a bitch and talk shit to her because that's how they are and fool up for you're nasty all of them they're nasty
Starting point is 00:38:11 I'm trying to figure out how you get from getting out of prison to like getting into entertainment let's speed this thing up so I get out of jail whatever you know
Starting point is 00:38:21 blah blah I end up having kids tried the family thing a couple times I was engaged with another drug dealer or you find a straight-laced guy I don't date drug dealers
Starting point is 00:38:29 okay yeah it was a one-time thing I mean I have but like As I got older, it's like, they died. That's sad. I was dating a guy that died.
Starting point is 00:38:36 It was so sad. You got killed while you were with him. Not why we together, but we were fucking and he got killed. Really? Yeah. And it was like I wasn't really official, so I was scared about going to the funeral. So I had to like mourning silence because I didn't want to draw. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:50 You know how bitch is getting in there like, oh my God, you just text me and he got a wife. Like, I didn't want to do that because I ain't know what was up with the nigger situation. So I had to sit in the back with the big Mary Jay sunglasses on. I was so sad. Well, that was mature of you. Like, I couldn't even go to. the front and like, well on that nigga like I wanted to. I wanted to be like...
Starting point is 00:39:06 Did you don't want to piss his baby mama's off? I didn't know, yeah, you know what I mean? I bought my cousins too. We sat in the bag. Because I was going, but I'm gonna be quiet. Wow, so you were ready for the smoke at the funeral. Just in case. But I still wasn't being disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Like, I didn't even walk up there throwing no shit. Like I, you know, danced. It is weird when a dude dies that you knew like 30 girls. He was fucking and they're all just solemn on their story. They're literally fighting for attention. And they all kind of want to claim them at the same time. That's fucked up because most of them dudes are married. They got relationships.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Them bitches know their roles. Like, why would you do that? Like, why would you do that to your friend? This person you got this bond enough with that you give him your pussy. Why wouldn't you hold him down and keep your fucking mouth closed? You kept your mouth closed when he was alive. That's the worst. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And we laugh at y'all. Like, we'd be looking laughing. Like, look at this bitch. You know what I mean? Because they always have like the sleeping pick with the ear in it or the thigh. Like, they never had no real deal. You know what I mean? Like it'll be a text thread.
Starting point is 00:40:00 And it'll be like, open the door, come to the door. come on, heart emoji. You know what I mean? Embarrassing yourselves. That is embarrassing. Okay, how do you get entertainment at some point? No, I was funny all the time and people always say you're so funny, blah, blah, blah. And I prayed, this sounds corny and not true, but it's true.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I pray because I had bought this house. That was my goal. Felling me working these bullshit-ass jobs. My thing is I just want to be a homeowner, white picket fence. And I had that at the time, and I felt very empty about it. Like, I didn't feel like, you know. And I'm from a black family. not a lot of homeowners.
Starting point is 00:40:32 We're from a black poorer family. So people of my family were very excited about it and, like, congratulate me, but I didn't feel that. You know what I mean? But I prayed. I was like, God, if I'm supposed to, because I was already doing videos and stuff when I would have, like, a small group of people
Starting point is 00:40:45 that no matter where I had a page that, they would follow it. And if I didn't have a page, they would, like, ask around locally with WhatsApp page, whatever, whatever. I'm like, God, if I'm supposed to do something, can you just give me a sign? So I woke up and post two funny videos like I always do, talk a shit about whatever's going on. But I had never did it on Facebook,
Starting point is 00:41:00 so I put that on Facebook. And that first video got 3 million views, 3.5 million views, my first try on Facebook. Wow, with all the yoke holes on Facebook. Yeah, that's the hill have, the hills have eyes and wear it over that motherfucker. Because even now, nobody, even my fans, they don't know what that video is.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Like, it's just in the deep, dark world of Facebook. Just a random clip. What were you talking about? Ugly babies. Wow. Yeah, about, like, my baby was ugly for a little bit, and I prayed on him. Really?
Starting point is 00:41:25 I used to use, like, filters and shit on them, and I recommended people to use filters on their ugly-ass kids. All your kids now. 11 and 6. 7. Got it. Does either of them know that you were calling them ugly on the internet? He's 7, so I'm working to slow in it in there or whatever. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Yeah, I got to drop it on, you know, before it gets too late. Me and my girl, like, she posted a picture like, I don't know, a week or it's like two weeks after we had our kid. Y'all did that? Yeah, but there was a bunch of people calling our kid ugly. And that was deeply upsetting to me, but then at the time, now I can look back on it and be like, damn, we posted some whack-ass photos. Yeah, you don't do that.
Starting point is 00:41:59 That was a bad photo. Yeah. The kid wouldn't clear that. It's like unfair to the kid to post these shitty-ass photos and I'm when they're fresh up at the womb, their skin's still wrinkly and shit. But Adam, nobody does. People don't do that.
Starting point is 00:42:10 People post the foot and they wait. Do that? Yes, nigga, where you been? Nobody does that. People post like, they literally do the whole pregnancy, then boom, motherfucker-dispheres. They don't post that baby for a while. I think in retrospect, I do agree with that.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Of course. Adam, they have to grow into their little face. They're like little aliens at first. You know what I mean? That sucks, though, that we don't want to post our kids until they look good. Welcome to 2020. Because in a perfect world, like, of course,
Starting point is 00:42:34 it's fucking fresh up out the womb. She ain't supposed to look good yet. Right, because the canal fucks with your face and makes it swollen sometimes when you push your baby out. Come out covering of blood and goop. Now, that pick is, I'm glad that pick is dead now because that shit was, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Remember that? People used to have picks of that. Oh, with the blood? Yeah, it's like, that's a bit mudge, bitch. Yeah, I don't want to see that. Slow down. We gave birth with mass on, though. Did y'all?
Starting point is 00:42:57 Coronavirus shit. That sucks. I know. Did y'all do, like, hospitals? those stuff they did you do like in the water we she wanted to do that yeah but there was like last minute she had to get C-section so oh I know she was disappointed that's when we wanted to have a natural birth that's upsetting it happened to me before I probably I thought the natural birth thing sounded like a scam some bullshit why you think it's not can't happen I just would rather
Starting point is 00:43:17 have a doctor around okay or like a team of doctors in a hospital but what about a doula dole does do that all the time Erica by do is a doula is she yeah I definitely want some doctors definitely don't want Erica bad do at my birthday I kind of heard in Massachusetts and the doctors, the doctors. Wait, what about them? Do you all have accents where you're from? Oh, yeah, New Hampshire? Yeah, I kind of heard it.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I don't even know if I could do it anymore, but yeah, we talk a bunch of fucking yokeals. Now you're from here. Now I'm from here. I have a combination, though, because I live in Brooklyn and Queens for like seven, eight years. How's that? That's fun. What part of Brooklyn? Bush Wake, most of it.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I had a good time in Flatbush once. Once? Yeah, I went to Juvei. I never fucking heard of Juvei. What the fuck is that? It's a club? No. Bay is the, it's the festival.
Starting point is 00:44:04 If I say this world, they're going to be so upset. It's the Caribbean Festival, where they dress up with all the stuff and they look all good. That doesn't sound like something I'd be invited to, yeah. No, there's plenty of whites there. Plenty of white. First of all, the whole Brooklyn's white. The whole Brooklyn is pretty white. I've heard that.
Starting point is 00:44:21 That's a thing now, yeah. It's kind of white. I've just never been to any other, like, Caribbean dance events, so I probably wouldn't have gone to that one either, especially since it's on the other side of the country. I mean, if you lived in Brooklyn for seven years and you've never been in juvei and yeah, that's not your thing. I was a BMX biker, so I wasn't really trying to get cultured beyond that. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Yeah. Entertainment. You've made the video, I got 3 million views. Go viral. How do you proceed from there? I literally do stand-up in like a month, sell it out, like cleared the whole shit. These guys made a mistake and let me reopen her. So when I got off the stage, whole crowd leave, like everything happened was like magical.
Starting point is 00:44:56 It was crazy. And then I did more stand-up. did a podcast. I did a podcast out of Philadelphia. And I just liked it. Like, I was like, oh, this is it. Like, how you sit around, you know, and just talk shit or whatever. And then from that podcast, I was on, like, a huge podcast.
Starting point is 00:45:12 I ended up doing millions off a game. Yeah, well, how do you transfer from this smaller one to that? I don't know. Niggas just had shit start rolling. They put a call out. They were trying to find. Yeah, they had a issue with the first host or some old shit. You know what I mean about that?
Starting point is 00:45:25 And then it was like a thing where if you made a video talking about you wanting to be on there, blah, blah, blah. And what I remember about that is When they put that video on there Like, man, I was going to have a game page It got more views than any of the other post So it'd have been like, you had to give a bitch a shot And then when I went up there, you know how I go
Starting point is 00:45:40 We ended up doing a bunch of them the same day So it was like boom up higher And you were just fucking with them right away It was a great rapport? Yeah, it was cool. I mean, I'm the type of bitch Like, I could hate you, right? Like, you could stank.
Starting point is 00:45:52 These niggas ain't going to know. Feel me? I'm Aquarius. Really? You're good at hiding or true self? You wouldn't even know. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:59 You might hate me? I don't know. You're going to talk shit about me in the sprinter after? No, no, no. You can't. It's okay. We ain't in sprinters, yeah. We're in vans.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Okay. I wouldn't hold it against you. Yeah. No, but seriously, I think that we mesh well. We all from Philly, you know what I mean? We're from North Philly at that. We're from the same side of Philly. So I think it was a good mession that people really enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:46:17 I think a lot of people got twisted, though, because I wasn't a co-host, you feel me? I was just a guest that kind of stays. So, because a lot of people were like, what happened? Why did you leave? that was like, nigga, that wasn't,
Starting point is 00:46:27 like they literally went from me to like big celebs. So I feel like it looked right on my end. Because I've watched a bunch of episodes of their shit, but I always watched the interviews with rappers, like big name rappers and stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:37 So I never really noticed that they had co-host, but I guess they kind of like stopped doing that at a certain point. You totally, if you, of all a million dollars over game fans, if you,
Starting point is 00:46:46 if they, that you didn't really see. You know what I mean? Because that's the, the, for me, that was like the entertaining part. Them too, just, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:54 going back and forth from each other or having different people up there. Just them two alone is lit. Did they want it to be like the Joe Budden podcast where it was just the same cast every week? And then they sort of realized like, oh, we should pivot into interview and rappers. I would say probably fuck no,
Starting point is 00:47:07 because Gilly, I don't think, no. I just think that they decided to go that direction with bigger, with stars. You know what I mean? Exactly. So, but for you to watch it and enjoy that, like you got to go back and look at them joins because that's new kind of.
Starting point is 00:47:22 That's like the last year or 10 months or something like that. You know what I mean? Probably here over here. It seems like that's when they really start blowing up though. I don't know. I'm from Philly, so they were big. They were huge. Like, when I got on there, it was like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:47:33 Like, niggas straight. Like, damn. And it wasn't even like a following, but just in the street people. I definitely felt like I got way more male fans then because I have more of a female base. You feel me? But I'm funny. So wherever I'm at niggas fuck with it. Like people like raw shit, it's not a lot of raw comedy out there.
Starting point is 00:47:48 You felt like their fan base fucks with you? It took a second. Because they have also like the barstrel fans too, right? The white boys. Yeah. I'd definitely start getting like the fuck you nigger bitch type dms. You got those kind of DMs? Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Especially when like anything negative happened, like they had jump on it a little bit. But what I'll say is that the core man I was with for game fans, it wasn't just an automatic like, oh, we fuck with this bitch. It was like she loud, she annoying, she ghetto. But by episode like two or three, I was getting shit like, it's weird. She grew on me like fungus a little bit, stuff like that. Like it was still like fuck that bitch, but I like that bitch, leave her, keep her. I definitely got a lot of bring her back. Like that was the thing.
Starting point is 00:48:25 So that's lit. You know what I mean? But I've done a lot of big podcast, 85 social. Maybe not a lot. That's it. When did you end up leaving? Oh, Angelouye Yee and lip service. You were a co-host or you just been on it a couple?
Starting point is 00:48:36 Both. Okay. Yeah. Angelie is cool. A little feisty thing. Gilly canned you because you were four hours late to every show? No, no. Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:45 See? You see how that is. Well, I saw a clip on YouTube. I know. That's crazy. It's crazy because, like, every time I'm asking about me. I was over game, like I'll keep it real, like, you know, it's a great opportunity, you know what I mean? And I just made a decision to do that, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:00 But when it comes to, like, somebody saying something that's not true, like, I'm not eating that either. I didn't get fired at all. Like, the last conversations we had was like, I'm going to see you in a second. You know what I mean? Like, listen, we're going to do this a couple times. I promise you, it was like that. Like, I didn't get fired. So you didn't get fired?
Starting point is 00:49:17 And I've never been four hours ago. They ghosted you? They definitely ghosted me. Definitely got ghosted. Like, I used to be in a group message. And then, like, good morning, Nick. And then that was like, you know what I mean? Good night, nigga.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Ghosting is just so much more normal than like having a conversation about something at this point. Like I've had actual like big business that I was doing with somebody and they did something I didn't like and I just never talk to them again. You can take that, carry that if you want to. I'm from Philadelphia. If a man look me in my eye and tell me something and then it's something else you have you, yes it. You're that now because if any, are you scared of me? But I'm not going to lie to him. I'll just, once I decide that I'm done with it, I'll just kind of let it go.
Starting point is 00:49:56 But also. To ghost completely is pussy in a way. But I've seen that, I've seen how bad that could be because people really get offended by it and it makes the situation less amicable. I didn't get offended by the ghosted at all because I'm a gooster. I'm in Aquarius. But I was more offended by the, we're doing this, we're doing that. Because it's like, I knew that wasn't true then.
Starting point is 00:50:17 You know what I mean? So it was just like, it's unnecessary. But yeah, I didn't get fired. unless I got fired behind the scenes for being four hours late that I never was unless I got fired around the scenes and it was that type of situation
Starting point is 00:50:29 Were you tardy in general though? Yeah, of course I was late. Everybody was late. The thing about it is like, and I just had this conversation, it's like, we wasn't on no punch clock shit niggas got there when they got there but I have never been the one they waiting
Starting point is 00:50:41 on to do some shit like it never was that vibe. It's just flat out not true but I feel like for me, I did that years ago like who the fuck would even care to because I believe that the question was like have you seen a podcast she doing well? It's like why the fucker we would be discussing
Starting point is 00:50:59 anything other than yeah that's what's up she doing that you feel me? It screams more about you than it does about me. So you ain't talked to them since then? No we don't talk at all never did never I ain't reach out but From your perspective was Gilly like a good person to work with because sometimes
Starting point is 00:51:15 I'm amazed by like just for example and this I like what he does but I watched the episode with Cash doll and I felt like I was watching like an older brother fucking with his younger sister. Like he was just like fucking with her. I almost like couldn't believe it because I just hadn't really seen a podcast where this was the dynamic and it just makes me wonder what his communication style is like off camera. I'm gonna say this.
Starting point is 00:51:40 He is very respectable off camera. He's very polite, sweet. I'm the little sis. Oh, okay. Yeah, off camera in my face. Right. Yep. Like that.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Well, that's good. Why the white girl thing? Do people really think you were white? Yeah, people call me white. When you're from the hood or you, black people, period. When you're lighter, you're the white girl. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:04 Is that tough for you? Because you obviously don't want to be white. I mean, I'm pale. Like, I'm not just liking. White people are not looking good in the press. And I feel like, just period, I really like being a black woman. You know what I mean? And I'm not mixed.
Starting point is 00:52:16 It's like most people assume that I'm mixed. People say stuff to me like, just because you got black kids don't mean you black bitch you know what I mean people really think that like I'm a white girl so you're full African or what? I'm full black American like everybody else
Starting point is 00:52:30 a descendant of a slave somewhere I can explain where there's white and my family but I'm not mixed my mother and my father are black their parents are black you know what I'm saying okay yeah you just were like one a million you came out a little lighter my father is dark skin
Starting point is 00:52:46 his mother's my color okay my mother is my color but she has green I mean, slavery at him. Slavery. No, I feel you. Have you ever, like, tried to pass as way, like some Rachel Dolez-Shoot? I've tried to get whitey, like, doing police stuff. It never works.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Really? Yeah, I tried to, like, sound like, hey, how are you guys? It doesn't really work, though. I've never got any, like, privilege in that way. You know what I mean? That's why it's a little frustrating. It's like, when I'm the lightest person in the room? Don't call me a white girl.
Starting point is 00:53:16 It's more wrapped up in me loving being a black woman versus me. liking white people. Right. I'll say that. So when did you decide to make that your brand? From the beginning. Oh, so that was always something. I'm called white girl.
Starting point is 00:53:29 So it was just fit. Don't call me white girl. Don't call me no white girl. I'm not white. But you were a white girl for a while? Like, were you allowing it for a while? Literally, everybody calls me white girl. It's a confusing thing.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Everybody calls me white girl now. That's the shortening of it. Okay. So it still goes. More people call me white girl than Mona. Yeah. Like when I titled this, should it say the don't call me white girl interview? Or should it say the Mona love it?
Starting point is 00:53:50 interview. Don't call me white girl for sure and put two ease into me because they keep deleting my fucking Instagram. How many times you had to delete? Three times last year. Why? What are you posting? Nothing. You know why they did on my page? Because I'm black. Damn. That's what I came up with. Yeah, shit's insane right now. They do it to black creators more than anybody. They do it to sex workers, like, the
Starting point is 00:54:09 craziest amount ever, but yes, I noticed that there's a shitload of rappers getting it and just... For what? I don't know. Like, witnesses, they always, they'll say harassment and bullying. What time I got inciting a riot? Right. Like just weird shit. I mean, it's pretty crazy when you think about how many important black people have had to deal with this
Starting point is 00:54:26 and somehow there's still like no attention on it in the press. When you have boozy and blue face and I've seen Benzino doing an interview the other day. Finally, somebody was some motherfucking sense. It's huge and it's like I was shocked when I heard you talking about it because I'm like nobody ever talks about this. And that's why I talk about it so much and I know I probably annoy people
Starting point is 00:54:41 but I don't think people understand is that motherfucker's building careers on this bitch. So people are literally living a life and I'm not making any, you know, I'm sure you should have more than one streaming incoming blah blah blah you should be professional do good but if you used to make it 10,000 a month on your fucking Instagram and you're losing Instagram for no other reason that you could think of other than being a fucking Negro why when everybody say the same thing don't Adam fucking care Adam or Zauri isn't that his thing yeah but nobody like he won't
Starting point is 00:55:08 answer to that in the press like he does breakfast club and charlemagne and them they don't even know that they're supposed to be calling them out for that what let that they didn't say shit about it let them come on mine i was i tweeted at the motherfucker a million times we because my Instagram got deleted like four days in a row. It just got deleted. 24 hours later I was able to get it back. Boom, gone again. That's what happened to me too.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Yeah. Yeah. My girl lost her. She had four million followers. Four million? I lose four million followers. Yeah. My girl.
Starting point is 00:55:37 I'm going up there. My girl. Easily has lost over a million dollars in the last year. Blue check too? Yeah. Because that's what people tell me. Once you get the blue check, it won't happen. Yes, it will, bitch.
Starting point is 00:55:48 The only way my Instagram won't get deleted. is if I don't run that motherfucker. The most famous porn stars in the world get their shit deleted no matter what they post. All the time. That's crazy to me. I don't know. Something needs to happen.
Starting point is 00:55:59 You know what I think we should do? We should fucking stop using that bitch all together at the same time. Right. Boycott that motherfucker. That'd be nice. You too. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Oh, no, fuck that. I still got my account. I don't know. Listen, I'll kid you not. I lost the page. I was so upset. I cried over it, right? Then I said, I'll make myself feel better.
Starting point is 00:56:21 I prop my phone up, I go live. Boom, that's the biggest video I ever did. Why are you being weird to me? That's huge. It's in songs, this, this, is and that. People clearing it for the albums, all kind of shit, right? But that came from that. I had 500 followers.
Starting point is 00:56:32 That shit went dumb viral. I ended up like 200K. In two weeks, they delete that bitch right at that pace for four weeks. Like, how is that fair? And even this one I had it's in September, but it's like... But it's weird because you're so used to seeing people in the media want to cover black people and women being discriminated against in our culture.
Starting point is 00:56:51 You see this every fucking day. But somehow the biggest tech company deleting a lot of, as you say, black people and women, it doesn't get any attention. Nobody gives a fuck. It makes no sense to me. If the New York Times did like a big fucking expose
Starting point is 00:57:04 about how fucked up shit really is, because the truth is that there are people on Instagram that you could pay like a couple hundred dollars to get anybody's Instagram deleted. Can you give me the name? Please. I don't have a problem paying at him. I don't know the right niggas. No, but not to get it back, but like to get delete it. You can pay to get somebody's shit going? Yeah, like I know people
Starting point is 00:57:22 told me that if I pay like 200 bucks, I get anybody's Instagram. Are you fucking serious? Isn't that insane? Niggas, some people don't like me. And they must, they must know that it's happening. This is the thing else I don't like, that they won't answer to ShadowBin. ShadowBin is for real. They won't even acknowledge that exists. ShadowBin is for real. Right now, I am ShadowBin and the page is so new. I've seen it happen this time. Where my views automatically go down and people doing shit like posting this. If you see this. comment and all that. Fuck all that.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Your shadow man. Your shadow man. I don't think it ever goes away. And the proof is when you have to type that name in. That's how you know. But why won't y'all say anything about it? I don't want to understand it. They won't even admit that it exists. Even though, I mean, it happened to no jumper for a while this year. I've seen it happen to academics. I went to look for his page the other day. I couldn't get it unless I typed in the whole name.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Yeah. It's fucking nuts. It's ridiculous. It's so stupid. I don't know. But you're the first person that actually gives a fuck. When I had these conversations, people look, you know, like, no, we're supposed to do something about that. You can't do shit in Damn, we're going to just let that slide on, get that. My girl was pregnant for like nine months, so she was barely posting on her account with $4 million,
Starting point is 00:58:24 and she gets the shit deleted basically right before she has the baby, which is that's why it's extra fucked up, is because she didn't post anything. So it was like almost nothing to get her account taken down, and then she has the baby. She starts another account. She gets it up to like $800K, and then one day, boom, it's gone for nothing. For nothing. And it's not like she's linking to her only fans or anything. She's terrified.
Starting point is 00:58:44 She's way too scared to link to her only fans. That's crazy. Why can't you? This doesn't make any sense. But then meanwhile, YouTube and Twitter are pretty reasonable with their system of people getting deleted and everything, which is nice that... Twitter don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Twitter pretty much lets people rock, and then YouTube is very, very hard to get taken down. I've seen some shady shit, but for the most part, it's hard to get deleted on YouTube. Yeah, my YouTube, I'm dry, I'm actually on YouTube. Really? I'm really an Instagram girl, so it bothers me how it is. Because I'm just close to leaving.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Because, you know, apps to pay you. Biko pays you to go live. That's why all of niggas on there that used to be on, like, love and hip-hop. Because they're getting paid, you know what I mean? get paid to go live on Bego for fucking facts. Oh, Beigo? It's the Asian company.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Interesting. Like a social media company, but everybody's on it. TikTok's all fucked up, too. TikTok is, they did that 20 best creators, not one Negro on the list. How, Adam? How? How is that possible? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Something like that happened. We're going to have to ask the Chinese government. Yeah, I guess. They're running that shit. Yeah. TikTok's weird. But they delete people left and right. For nothing.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Every TikTok video I have is muted. Really? There's not really one where I'm talking. They take my words off, I guess, because it's graphic or whatever. Like, I can't even use my shit over there. Yeah, you really can't swear on there. That's a huge thing. But my voice is viral there.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Millions and millions and millions of people do my shit, but they know where to time it. Like, they know where to start it and in it, where it's just as acceptable as it going to be. You know what I mean? And then they'll use that one. But me, if I just open my mouth, I think it's my voice too deep for TikTok.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Like my shit, Husky. How you doing, Adam? You smoke? Yeah, I see you a black amount. It's my black amount. Oh, so that's a black amount. Oh, so that's an everyday thing for you. Watch your business out.
Starting point is 01:00:22 You've been doing that since you were a seed, or what? No, I've been smoking blacks for a while in a couple years. I used to smoke weed a lot, cut down on the weed, and I smoked Al Capone's a little. Then I went to black of my house. Never did cigarettes, though. Really? I'm a black girl. Not if you were you drunk?
Starting point is 01:00:34 Fuck, no, I smoke a black. I don't like really getting drunk or something, I think. If I was drunk and I smoke a black, I'm done. Put me in the Uber. I'm going to bed. They should hit like a fucking brick. Do you smoke cigarettes when you drunk? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:47 100s and shorts uh really whatever i hate newports i hate menthol cigarettes in general i like marlborough lights wow i would think you was a newport guy american spirits are too too crazy yeah do you smoke cigarettes when you're sober i smoke blunts okay and then if if if if i run into somebody with cigarettes a lot of times i'll end up smoking with them me and joe button we blew down a few few marlborough on here that's cool joe button's cool yeah you like him yeah i like joe button okay you're a metal no i haven't No. I only like him for the cigarettes. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Yeah, I don't know. Just kidding. The most I got at Joe Button, honestly, was loving hip hop. I watched all his seasons there. He proposed to the girl on Times Square, she told that nigga no. See, I watched, like, that part.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Like, that was a weird thing for me, like, being a Joe Button fan for so many years and just knowing that there's all this fruity-ass shit happening on loving hip-hop, and I don't know about it because I don't want to watch that, but I did see some of those clips. Yeah, he got on his knee. Tom Square, the bitch said no.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Right. Yeah, she did. Nope. And you felt her on that or what? No, I'm not able to say, yeah. I'm not sure you ever to say, I would say yeah, and then told them at home. The crazy thing for me when I watched Love and Hip Hop is like,
Starting point is 01:01:58 holy shit, this is a show that has been created just to make the dudes look stupid and to glorify the women. You think so? Yes, that's like every narrative in the show is like, look how smart she is and look at this dumb fuck begging for her attention. I actually honestly hate it. I think it lacks creativity. I'm a rap fan.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I love rap. I watched rap get bigger and bigger, you know. I'm born in the 80s where it was like, is that a real genre? You know what I mean? Those days. So, like, I feel like loving hip hop is fitting. Just another piece of, like, showing, you know, hip hop in a different way.
Starting point is 01:02:30 It's so many things they could have did with that, but they just tried to repeat the same stupid, corny-ass narrative over and over. Like, you get a Stevie-J and try to make another Stevie-J. You feel me? It kind of makes hip-hop look retarded. It really sucks. It lacks creativity.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Any writers over it. they need less writers pick some interesting motherfuckers let them tell their story you can spice it up a bit but you ain't got to like the people that I know personally I don't love and hip hop tell me
Starting point is 01:02:57 that they weren't really able to do their thing even promoting their shit it was like yo you're the whore you're the side whore you be that that's corny I'm watching it and it's like oh look it's Papoos and Joe Button in a pool hall just sort of talking about their problems and it's just that
Starting point is 01:03:10 I'm like I'm sure this would ever happen like I'm sure Papoos and Joe Button and just meet up for a beer Yeah, it's corny. It's corny. It's like, and then it's like, because I love Jimmy and Chrissy. Like, I was on deck. That first joint, I'm like, I'm watching this. I mean, they left so fast. The shit got corny so fast. And then it was just like, this sucks. But then came Jocelyn and Stevie. That was like, that was good TV. First two seasons, Jocelyn. When they four Scrappy, Scrappy and the baby mom, good TV, nigga. See, I'm glad I don't know about this. Like, I'm glad that my Jim Jones fandom can just exist outside of knowing about whatever weird reality. reality TV shit he did. Honestly, nothing he did was weird there. Like, I think as far as, like, niggas, like, men, he ain't go out bad.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Like, he literally, like, grabs cameraman by their fucking collar and toss them, niggas. Like, he owns some gangster shit. It looks, like, tough. I like Jim Jones. Yeah, I do, too. I love Chrissy. I love Chrissy. I don't even remember. It's kind of weird.
Starting point is 01:04:03 I know it's his girl. It's his woman. Yeah, I don't know. I love her a lot. It's a little weird. I try not to pay attention to rap or significant others. You know what I tell people all the time? We didn't, and that's what Chrissy.
Starting point is 01:04:13 I just love Chrissy for her. she is. Like besides, he just introduced me to her, but, you know what I mean? But, um, we didn't grow up with that. Like, even when you think about how they looked, you know what I mean? Like, they weren't like this bad bitch. Some niggas still was with the bitch for high school. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:04:29 So it was like, this new age of like, you follow that girl, that girl's a brand or whatever. That's kind of new. We didn't do that. Yeah, did you ever think about taking that path at one point? Like, oh, I'm going to just become PD cracks baby mama and I'm just rock with that. Well, like I said, we weren't back, when P.D.
Starting point is 01:04:45 was popping. Nobody cared about their wives. It just wasn't a thing. Without social media, how would anyone even know? Yeah, it's like, now is a different day and time, and to be honest, like, I don't know. Do you know, the kids like what they like, you feel me? But even when I think about, like, DMX's wife,
Starting point is 01:05:01 Elle, Koojah wife, like, bro, they weren't famous people. It just didn't go like that. So, no, I didn't aspire for that, anything. You're not thinking about it now? Get some baby mama clout. I mean, I have said a couple times I've stopped this whole thing to fuck with the right one. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:05:18 You think you got another kid in you, or are you happy with two? I would like more, like a lot. Like, I would like a whole lot. Like a whole little set. We married. We all got the same name on the mailbox. Right. But it's like you got to get the situation.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Because the guy is like, is after battle. You know what I mean? Right. If you found the right guy, though, now knock out a couple more kids with him? Find the right guy or not I'm having another baby. Cross your fingers.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Pray that this is the dude and he's not going to fuck it up. You know what I've been saying lately? If I meet a guy in the vibes good and he told me like he got top of off by dude, I would stick with them. That's how slimming the pickings are. It's just honest. Most of them gay anyway. We can talk about it later. But you're not supposed to care as a woman in this woke era. It's not even
Starting point is 01:05:55 that woke era. It's like I just think, like let's say you grow up with eight dudes, eight to ten guys, right? I feel like out to eight to ten, two of them fuck the guy. They just can't tell you. You think that 25% of men have done gay shit? I'm glad you did it like that. Hell no. Yeah, I do. It's less than ten.
Starting point is 01:06:12 On average. Say that like personal experience. I feel like I feel like I've read studies that suggested that it's less than 10, more like 5%. I mean, how many fucking gay dudes have you met your life? It's like a unicorn. I met a couple, but. I've met so many there are, it's a secret, and only I know. I feel like, you know, the media spent so much time talking about gay people and trans people, but like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Like, I'll be at the 7-Eleven. I don't really see that many. I feel like my community, the black community is not really welcoming the gay people as far as coming out. Because they form their own little neighborhoods and colonies away from all the boring heterosexual people. For sure. But I feel like until it's a time where like this is how I'll explain it. The little toddlers I remember that seemed like they could be gay or feminine or whatever you want to call it. They're all gay teenagers now, right?
Starting point is 01:07:01 Because I'm older. So I feel like if the it wasn't such a girl, there's Lisa with her gay-ass son versus, hey, hey, hey, Lee's, you know, I'm your big sister. I'm your big cousin. Have you ever thought if he's gay? How would you handle it or whatever? maybe the whole family can open up to it a little more because you ain't going to stop it just by not speaking to these motherfuckers or cutting them off or whatever happens at Biloxi.
Starting point is 01:07:21 You know what I mean? I know someone, a friend of mine who's kid is like eight years old and they're pretty sure he's gay and they have a very good attitude about it. And I'm like, that's nice. Exactly. Like for me, if my son was trans, I would fix his fucking lacefront. Do I want my son and be trans?
Starting point is 01:07:36 No, but I want him to be happy. I don't give a fuck about that. Like, I really would not be disappointed if this niggas start wearing dresses. The question is just how hardcore your son would have to be for you to just accept, like, okay, we're putting you on puberty blockers. We're going to put you on estrogen, whatever the fuck, hormones it is. No, that's a whole other subject. How old do they need to be before you start helping them transfer over to the dark side?
Starting point is 01:07:58 To me, like teenage, like at least towards grown type vibe. And I don't know if that's too late, but it's like, I don't have time to add that doctor to the list. Like, we already got the regular doctor, the dentist and shit. You know, you got to handle them and put me on your own. I wouldn't have trusted me about anything when I was 13. Right. So, I mean, I don't know. I felt like a boy for a long time.
Starting point is 01:08:16 You're very susceptible to, like, stuff that's around you as a young person, you know? If you've kind of heard the idea of like, hey, maybe you could be a guy. Like, I feel like a lot of girls would be like, shit, maybe I could be a guy. Yeah, I think I could have at some point for sure. Yeah. Everybody thought I was like lesbian and my family. They were so surprised when I had a daughter. I have my doubts as well.
Starting point is 01:08:36 I've never had any pussy. Really? Not yet. Never been tempted to eat one? That's the part I can't get with. Like, I want a bitch. I want to go with her. I want to, like, touch her titty.
Starting point is 01:08:45 But I don't want to eat no pussy. That's how I'm hot. Yeah, what the fuck? But I'm saying, like, it just seems like such a hard job. That's how do you breathe? Girls being gay is so different than dudes being gay because, you know, I don't know a motherfucker who would be like, yeah, I don't let them top me out of her. I do.
Starting point is 01:09:03 They got to be out there, but I don't know. I do. Right. Yeah. That's cool. Jesus. So how. how'd you end up getting your own new podcast that you've been doing for what like a year now
Starting point is 01:09:13 or something? Well, honestly, before May I was over a game, any of those other big ones, I did my own. Okay. I did my own for like two, three months and then nobody watched, right? It sucks so bad. And it was really long, you know what I'm saying? So I already knew that I wanted to do it again, you know, but I just kind of like student in the game type shit trying to learn on my way or whatever.
Starting point is 01:09:33 And then Dave Mays comes along. So me and Dave Mays, we meet really like each other. we got to know each other for a long time. We did a lot of talking and FaceTime and this shit. And he was starting a media company. He was starting a media company. He wanted to start out with me. So first of all, I am a 90s rap lover kid, right?
Starting point is 01:09:50 So the fact that his Dave Maze was just like, oh, shit, you know what I mean? He's in Aquarius. Yeah. Yeah, so I felt like I understood him a little bit. He's cool. But I like the idea what they were doing. You know what I mean? Because they want to start an app themselves.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Like, that's in the future for breakbeat media. Having an app where you don't have to worry about getting deleted because you're black. Wow. You know, that's in the near future here. But you start the media company, creative freedom, all that. We just, we work together. It doesn't feel like a boss type of, you know, work together and shit. And it's coming to fruition.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Like, I like it. Honestly, the only thing that's shocking is I didn't know some people would like it so fast. I'm doing good. Really? Yes. That's dope. Yeah, it's cool. You know one suggestion I have for you?
Starting point is 01:10:28 What? You've got to make it so that all the episodes don't have the same thumbnail on YouTube. Okay. Because then it's, like, hard for the audience to differentiate. Okay. Thanks, Adam Jumper. Just a tip. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Have you watched, really, honestly? Yeah. You have? Yeah. Do you laugh? I laughed. Okay. I also watched you do that weird press conference
Starting point is 01:10:48 where you sat up there in front of all those people and just talked about it when you announced it. I was watching that and I started to feel like, you know what? Maybe I'm not supposed to be watching this. That was the pilot. Oh, that was a pilot. Yeah, and that was a live audience. I was like my special fans. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Yeah. That's tough. I feel like where we at now, it is way different or whatever. I feel like that podcast is like stand-up almost. It's funny. Yeah. Yeah. So you have always the same cast of people with you when you're on it?
Starting point is 01:11:18 Yeah. It's usually me and Phelps. And then one of my producers he'll sit there as well. But I definitely knew I didn't want to host. Like, I wanted to do it by myself. So if I have guests, I have guests on, but I want to hold it alone. I wanted to do it alone. I watched you interview fucking, what's her name?
Starting point is 01:11:33 Somebody's Baby Mama. Ari. I read it on. Who's baby mom? That's my friend. Yeah, that's my friend. Okay. Yes, she's a really sweet person.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Right. I was like, damn, I didn't know the school of that interviews. Yeah, that was the first one. That was our first one ever. Yeah, because she wanted to support a friend because she's a really great person. Wow. Yep. And she smells good, and her ass is really fat.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Really? And her thighs match. Damn. Yeah, she smelled really good, too. So you're a BBL admirer? Um, honestly, I used to be, but the ass is so, they're so slobsided lately. You know what I mean? I'm seeing a lot of bad shit.
Starting point is 01:12:05 shit. You know, it's making me not want to do it. I wanted to do it. I was going to lay on the table at him. Really? I did it on live for the discount. That might be good for your podcast and career, don't you think? I would do it on the podcast. God's love them. At the end of the day, we're in America. The best you look, the better you do flat out. So what's up.
Starting point is 01:12:24 That's what it is, yeah. Yeah, I'm with it. But it's just, I always say it as, so I just maybe just do shaping instead of adding. Because I do not like what I'm saying. Like up close? Yikes. That's why I said. Like, already look real good, like all the way around.
Starting point is 01:12:39 A lot of the set, when I'm seeing some of these girls, no shade that I, like, really looked at on Instagram. Like, damn, they look so good. They don't look like that, yo. That shit is like, yo, you got to pick the right nigga or you, your titty going to the left forever. You know what I mean? I've seen so many amazing BBLs over the years.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Have you? Oh, yeah. Yeah. But then I've seen a lot that I'm just like, oh, no. I'm scared a little bit. That one didn't work out. Yeah. It's like a one and three thousand chance.
Starting point is 01:13:05 you dying, I think. And then it's just a lot, the healing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I just, all the work that I did want, I probably won't get as much. But I'm getting some, though. I'm pro-plastic surgery. Right. You're getting paid like that? No, I said I'm pro-plastic surgery.
Starting point is 01:13:19 No, but you're getting paid enough that you're like, oh, let's just redo everything. First of all, I know bitches in the projects will work. You don't need money to get work done no more. You don't? You don't. You don't. You don't. I remember the first time I found out that there were girls putting tities on layaway.
Starting point is 01:13:33 I was just like, what? I'm pro titty's on landway, too. Go girl, get your care credit on. Yeah, whatever you want to do. I mean, it's an investment that'll pay for itself if you're smart, so. Sometimes these bitches ain't paying it back, but I don't want to say too much. Really? What?
Starting point is 01:13:47 You're going there with a fake ID? Listen, look, I can't because they know me, but. You know? Maybe I'll do that for the dick implant. Would you do that? No, but I would probably just pay for it, but I'm also not going to do that. If a dick is like five-ish, you should. invest in yourself. Five
Starting point is 01:14:05 inches. If it gets you an extra five inches, then yeah, dudes are gonna be lining up. Yeah. Because then you could go from like a mid, you could do a terrible dick to a big ass dick in five inches. I saw a nigga get his calves slithing because he had bitch-ass calves. He made his calves look more manly.
Starting point is 01:14:21 You're talking about from MTV back in the day? Remember that? Remember that? No, you got an implant in there. Okay, well, it'll look good. Yeah? They look good. But right now you could get yourself taller. You could get their legs extended a bit. That's the gay shit I ever heard. No, I'm talking about the calf implant. The, what they call it, the knee BL.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Okay. That's big, though. They'd be talking about that a lot. Yeah. I didn't know men felt so bad about their bitch-ass calves. I don't give a fuck about the cats. I'm talking about the height thing, dudes, if they could be two or three inches tall. Holy shit, they'll do anything for that.
Starting point is 01:14:49 I don't know. I like sure guys. I don't bother me. I don't bother. I'm not like a looks person. I dated two guys with one eye, too. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:58 The guy told you that died earlier. He had one eye. His name was house. North Philly. Yeah. I don't have a problem dropping names clearly I was laughing because we got a guy
Starting point is 01:15:08 who just podcast here house phone oh so it's not exactly the same but it's close he has both eyes for now the ski guy I like the ski guy better
Starting point is 01:15:15 you like ski I like that he's a real one yeah yeah big old one you want to Compton you're gonna take me to Compton
Starting point is 01:15:23 yeah I had to go to the Compton courthouse yep this dude was was trying to sue me claiming that I ripped him off for money
Starting point is 01:15:31 because somebody else was pretending to be me ripping him off for money. And so I had to go to the Compton Courthouse. I had to park at Big Ski's House and then he walked my ass over the Compton Courthouse. Compton has his own courthouse? Oh yeah. Damn, that's a little shit.
Starting point is 01:15:45 It's huge. Wow. It's like the main center of the city. I can't fucking wait. Take me over there. Oh yeah, you love it. I have a sick obsession with the ghetto. Like everywhere I want to go, I want to see it. You know the best part about the Compton Courthouse, you could throw a rock and hit the pop out across the street. That's racist, but whatever.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Well, I'm not. I'm not. I don't know. I I just like Bubba's. Yeah. I mean, you could throw a fucking rock and hit a Popeye's over there too. Mm-hmm. I don't know. I need to try some food over here though,
Starting point is 01:16:10 some like good LA food. You've been to Rosco's? No, I just think, I assumed I wouldn't like it. If you want to eat a waffle with fried chicken next to it, then you go to Rosco's. Trying to think of what else. You want some bougie asses. Go to Earth Cafe.
Starting point is 01:16:25 No. I'm not gonna like it. I want something that's like the essence of LA when I eat it. It should be at a truck or something. Mm. A truck? I mean there are so many trucks
Starting point is 01:16:34 but I'm not sure if any of them are really like the truck just give me somewhere to go Postmates everything You don't leave a house Because of COVID? You live in Philly you just eat cheese steaks every day? Yeah, kind of. For real? Yeah, they're good. Cheastakes, trombolies. I noticed on Postmates the other day that it's like
Starting point is 01:16:50 They had like a fucking cheese A taste of Philly or some shit. Yeah. Have you ever had a cheesecake in Philadelphia? Where'd you go? I don't say Ginoes. Probably Wawa. Oh, fuck. That sucks. No, because most people come over and they go to the tourist spots and that's not a good cheese
Starting point is 01:17:06 I know I had some authentic ass ones throughout the years, but I probably had more from Wawa. Yeah. Just because it's there, you know. That sucks, damn. I don't know. I live in New York for all those years. I spent a lot of time in Philly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:17 I remember one time I took the Chinatown bus from Manhattan to Philly to fuck this girl. I came in like probably like a minute and then just passed out on the couch, woke up. It was like nine in the morning. She's getting ready for work. Yeah. I was really like, what am I doing with my life? Chinatown bus smells like that blue water and turds. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:36 I can't do it. It smells like a public pool. That part of my journey I can't be. It's like, you know, you're supposed to grow up to New York to work. It's like, nah, nigga. You never been on the fun-wa? No, I have Ubered there a couple times on some shit. Rich shit right there, wow.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Yeah, we've Uber up there. Uber's had a phone. $10 fun war, bus. I don't know. All right, so where should they watch your podcast? What do we need to know about you since it's being told to me that you have to go? Well, don't call me white. girl's my name on Instagram. Two E's
Starting point is 01:18:04 into me because I'm ducking IG police. Fuck you at him. My podcast, you can listen to that anywhere you listen to a podcast. It's my fucking name. Don't call me white girl. I feel like none of your fans are my fans, so this is going to be really effective for my shit. I'm sure our 5% female audience will love you.
Starting point is 01:18:20 You have a 5% female audience? Something like that. You should have told me so I've got to cock this ass up a little bit while I said. But don't call me white girl. LinkTree in my fucking bio. We can find my YouTube, find behind the scenes shit. And you can listen to my podcast. Anywhere we drop on Tuesday's audio, our visual is on breakbeat media's YouTube page on Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:18:39 And you can call a number and get advice, or just tell me you think I'm a stupid bitch. That's in the podcast description. That way. Name of the podcast, don't call me white girl. That's me. That's Adam Jumper. Thanks for tuning in.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Whenever I start to Waka, he just calls me Jump. I'll stay with Adam. Like, he thinks that that's my name. I like that. I'm not going to correct them. Like, fuck it. You can call me whatever you want. You're going to stop by next time here and now?
Starting point is 01:19:02 Yeah, we'll come by. I feel like never want to see us do more contact together. Did you like it? Did you like her back and forth? I like it. Your phone case is very confusing. My bed is calling me. It's like a joke about you liking to sleep.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Juice gave me this year. It was a gift. That's cool. I appreciate you. I'll come back for sure. Thank you so much. All right. Don't call me, white girl.
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