No Jumper - The Exavier TV Interview: LA Hat Politics, Going Viral off Gang Related Comedy & More

Episode Date: September 24, 2021

Exaviertv talks about his come up, not doing collabs to make it on his own, being super focused, not partying much and more! https://www.instagram.com/exaviertv/ https://twitter.com/exaviertv Stamps b...y Eli Mcfly https://www.instagram.com/eli518mcfly/ ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today we have a much anticipated and asked for interview. Yes, sir, yes, sir. With one of the top funny guys in the world out there right now. Man, appreciate it, Adam. Kevin Hart, step aside. Chris Rock, I ain't trying to hear it. We got Xavier TV in the building.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Man, what's happening in the show? How you feeling, man? I'm all right, man, humble. It's nice to have you out here. Appreciate it, man. Yeah, I mean, you are pretty much the hat king of L.A. As far as I'm going to show. This guy's trying to take the title.
Starting point is 00:00:31 I'm the hat king. Nick, please don't disrespect me like this. Don't start this off. I'll walk off right now. How do you feel about- I was watching some of his recent uploads. And I'm seeing him.
Starting point is 00:00:41 He's with his girl. And she's sort of like handing them some hats one by one in that plain hats. And I'm just thinking like AD would never let this happen. AD's all about the ornamented hats. I was going to say that man. I like your, come on. He'd be dressing that shit up, though.
Starting point is 00:00:53 He do. I ain't going to lie. I'm going to lie. As customs, the hat king of L.A. as the one who sends the issues down who says these are the hats that are popping him he's the hat king you're gonna have to just accept this for the time of you might be the fancy hat king but he's the one who's like sort of sending down the orders of these hats are cool these ones aren't cool i feel like
Starting point is 00:01:15 it's just l.a period like i'm just the one you know voicing it in a different way i feel like you know i'm just you know making it funny you know taking something that's real making it in a funny matter where people can receive it funny and learn from it The hat king, I don't know. That's real education right there. Do you rock the ornamented hats with the special design, the nine out of 11, etc? I'm at to see how to get that on. But I've been working on patches, playing jang hats.
Starting point is 00:01:40 I'm going to get you the customs. You wake your game up because, like, the hats I wear now, like nobody got. Yeah, that's why. When I go outside, you feel me, it is what it is. Yeah, that's hard. Even if it's a regular hat, I got like some special pens and they can put on me and shit like that. So it makes my shit stand out. The hat game is going to be like shoes in the minute.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Niggis already like that. I'm telling you. Hats went from $40, now they're 71. These like, like, some of the hats I wear, they're like $2.50 apiece, 120, 170 and shit. I got up there, you guys. You used to be able to pull up with a white tee on. Now you need a $600 Versace polo shirt.
Starting point is 00:02:15 You used to be able to stop by lids. Now you got to pull up with the mad Lisa Frank designs on your hat and shit. Nika, he don't know who Lisa Frank is. I didn't know until last week. That's old school. Yeah, that's real. That's some dinosaur shit. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Okay, tell us a little bit about your coming of age. Like when you were a kid, where you live. You said you lived all over L.A., right? Yeah, it's all over. I always was with my mom, you know what I'm saying? Staying with my mom. We was just moving everywhere. You know how I'd go.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Single mom, moving different houses. You don't know, bro. You know how I've heard things. You know how I go. I have two easy CDs in my day. I heard, you know, these streets is hard. But yeah, you know, staying with a single mom, you know, watch.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I'll stay south central. I'm saying. That's pretty much it. Those two spots. Downtown. sometimes. But yeah, moving a lot. Moving a lot. A whole lot. Yeah. So that's why people are, oh, yeah, you're from.
Starting point is 00:03:04 No, I'm from everywhere. Like, south central. But people, when you say that, I'm from everywhere. Like, I even noticed, like, you're doing the Pressure Pass episode with your friends. You say, I'm from everywhere. And they all kind of got to, like, chuckle a little bit. Because in L.A., it's like, it's all about, like, they want you to be from one place. And you came up there.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And if you're from multiple places, that's kind of weird. Like, did you feel sort of weird about that as a kid? Or is that something you got used to real young? I never felt, you know, weird about it, you know, just what it was, you know. And then I went to, like, certain schools I went to, only went to that one school. So it was like, I didn't go to different others, you know, I went to school here, then I went to school there, and I went to school there, and I went to school there, and I went to school there, and I went to school there, graduated from.
Starting point is 00:03:41 So it was like, I ain't really felt. So it's crazy because elementary school, I went to 74th Street. That's bad. You know what I'm saying? And then, uh, I got to middle school and went to school in 51st in Vermont. Oh, okay. Another bad place. Then in high school, I was on a corner of Crenshaw in that view park.
Starting point is 00:03:57 So I was my daughter go there now. That's a good school. Yeah, she go there now. Good school. What was your mom like? Was she trying to really shield you from all the crazy shit in LA or? All that. She was like super women, man.
Starting point is 00:04:08 She, you know, she, but she comes from that. She don't gang bang and then, but my family do. So she see how I was. She's seen, you know, the ups and downs of it. You know, it's some ups, you know, some ups people want to, you know, I want to gang bang, it's the cars, the women, but they don't see what go into that, you know. So she showed me the ups and downs like, like, nah, you know.
Starting point is 00:04:27 It looked good, but it's only two ways it's going to happen. You know what I'm saying? Jail or, you know, everybody knows the other one. Deaf. But you resisted the temptations of, like, getting rid of the streets? I mean, I always wanted to hoop. So it was like, I wasn't really thinking about, you know, gangbagging like that. But me hooping, I'm going to the parks of hoop, and it's just gang banking is just there.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Like, it's nothing you're going to run away from. You feel me? It's either you going to find a way to get out of it or just make it through without, you know, getting into it with them. You know, just figuring out a way to get out, really. But would you somebody who was always, like, really. But were you somebody who was always like really fascinated by it, even though you didn't necessarily want to get involved with all the bullshit? It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:03 It wasn't that I was fascinated by it. It's just something that was always, like I said, it's just, I should just be there. And then I'm like, damn, that's something. You know, let me, let me, I want a gang bang. That shit cool. Because I knew it wasn't cool, but it's just like, it's just there. I got to figure out a way that, you know, that's why when it comes to, like, my videos,
Starting point is 00:05:21 I'm like, you know, I feel like people need it. Like, you know, laugh about it. it, you know, but also educate because people don't know. You know, a lot of people really don't know. So it's like, let me go ahead and make a way of what I know and put it into a form where people can receive it and learn from it. So, you know, but that's pretty much how I go about it, for real. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Okay, but so throughout your time in high school, you were, like, not thinking about this. You were focused on basketball and stuff? Yeah, I was focused on basketball, like trying to hoop. Right. Strictly, just trying to hoop. You try to play basketball in college and shit, too? This is exactly how I happened. So from elementary school to high school,
Starting point is 00:05:57 I was a hoper for a long. Like I'm trying to go to the league. I'm trying to go D1. I wanna, you know, every kid, I'm trying to go D1. Got to high school and then work out, coach was on some, you know, weird shit. But-
Starting point is 00:06:09 You blame it on the coach or was it related to your own discipline? You went over 30? Hey, man, I went off from that. That's exactly how I go, man. And my teammates and everybody know, man, hey, I shoot the ball, I'll make the shot one for one. Here, take me up.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Really? out the game. Why? You're shooting from half court, like beginning of the game, doing some crazy. Wide open in the corner. Wide open in the corner for the corner spot. Wide open. Money. Do the basketball coaches in high school just get like crazy ego complexes where they want to control all these kids? I want to make them do exactly as I say. I feel like it is. But it's like, dang, you can mess up a lot of people dreams, you know? Because it was a point, man, that was one of the depressive times in my life. Right. It's like, man, I want a hoop. And it's like, I'm not going league. I'm not going D. One way else I'm going to
Starting point is 00:06:54 Right. That's where I find what I do now. So it was like, damn. Bless on the skies, though. Yeah, it is, because I feel like if I wanted to go to the league, even if I went to college. It is what it is. Some people got it, some people don't. That's the crazy thing about, like, kids who grow up wanting to be a basketball player,
Starting point is 00:07:08 a football player, et cetera, is that you have, you know, tens, hundreds of thousands of young Americans who want to do that, and then slowly over time, their dreams just sort of get squashed and destroyed. And then even if you make it to the NBA, you might play for a year or two, you know, etc. And then it's tiny percentage to get to, you know, you know, it's a tiny percentage get to have a 10-year career and make a shitload of money. That's true. But I always told myself, you know, I was always being the realest since he, like, after high
Starting point is 00:07:31 school, I'm like, man, look, I don't want to be another nigga in the gym who was cold and broke. You know, I can't be a nigga who can't his asshole. He could have been. He could have went here, but he in the gym with no money. So it's like, man, you know, I got to figure it out early. Like, I'm in high school, like, every day, like, what I'm a do? Because I know I can't do no 9 to 5.
Starting point is 00:07:49 I know how the street's going to go. I'm like, dang, I got to figure out some because I want to retire mom. So it's like, I gotta figure it out, man. So that's when I started doing this funny video. Did you ever have nine to fives before that, like throughout high school and shit? I used to sweep hair at my dad barbershop, but that was like on the weekends when I was in like elementary school or middle school a little bit. It was like every now and again, but like I only had one job. It was part-time at UPS and I quit.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Yeah, I quit like the first month. Why? Wanted to do YouTube and Instagram. Literally. And I only had like 1,000 followers, bro. Like I just seen it early. I'm like, man, I was going to work every day. was driver helper a lot of my homies like man that's easy like in the car but it's like I was working
Starting point is 00:08:29 on Wilshire and Beverly Hills or like near O'Dale okay so I'm seeing my favorite car every day I'm like man I'm seeing these beautiful cars like I can't be in a man I got to do something yeah I got to do some of myself like I'm seeing this every day new whips new people just what I'm like yeah I got to handle it a lot people never really even get exposed to that shit even though it is like 10 20 miles away from where you might have grown up that's true that's true you'll be you'll be fascinated by how many people, never been to Rodale, nothing. You know, it's just crazy, but just seeing that every day, I'm like, man, now I got to quit. I got to go and chase this dream because I'm young.
Starting point is 00:09:03 You can quit 17, 18, and go ahead and go at it. You won't look as bad. It's still embarrassing, but you got to go at it. Like, that's one thing, too. You know, it's, you know, Mazzie once said this before. I'll never forget it. He said some cold. He said, you got to deal with the embarrassment of trying to beat a shit, you know, while, like, of being nothing while trying to become.
Starting point is 00:09:23 something like that shit embarrassing yeah and a lot of people if they see you trying to be better than you are right now that almost makes them feel like oh he he's bougie like he got his head up his ass people like you in a lot of ways like you know people like you when you're just trying to stay where you're at and when you try to better yourself i remember when i used to like be with the homies and long meets and stuff and i would say no i don't want to i'm not going out tonight i'm going to stay in the crib and just work and do some research and shit oh man the people that are not planning on elevating to another level, they'll be looking at you like, oh, you're not going to come out and get drunk with us, et cetera. That's one of the biggest things you have to get
Starting point is 00:09:59 past in life to be a success. Bro, shout out to Top Dog, too, because I remember, bro, yeah, Top Dog, gave me some of the best advice ever, young, you know what I mean? I had a job. I had a baby. I think I was 19. I had my daughter. I was working a regular job, and, you know, I was around him earlier and all the Top Dog guys and stuff. And he was like, oh, yeah, you got talent and shit like that and I was telling him I was like man listen I quit my job right now I'm willing to do it and this is early before they became who they became I'm like man listen I quit my job I do all type of stuff like that and then he at the time I didn't understand it and later I did he was like listen don't quit no steady money that you got right now you know what I'm saying and I'm
Starting point is 00:10:39 like in my head I'm like how am I supposed to stick with this schedule doing this shit it but that later on help me and shit like that and made me stay on the grind and you know Don't make impulsive decisions based off of, you know what I'm saying, right now and stuff too. That's one leap of faith I took though because, man, I wouldn't, well, I was broke as hell, man. I wouldn't make it no money, bro. Like for that whole, it was top of 2019, I quit my job. I ain't had nothing. I had no money.
Starting point is 00:11:05 That's recent, too. So it was like, it's recent because I just started getting like hot recently, you know what I'm saying? Like, top of 2019, my mom was like, look, you got one year to do something. One year, I'm gonna give you one year to go ahead and go at it every day. Like, do what you gotta do. But at the end of that year, if you don't do what you gotta do, it's, you gotta go, go get a job, go, I was gonna be a bar, I'm like shit, they can at least choose their schedule or something.
Starting point is 00:11:27 You ain't gotta really like, you could, you know, any kind of way to be an entrepreneur, like the closest to that I was trying to be, you know what I'm saying, where I could, you know, when I tell you man, what, what day, it was December 2019, that video went viral. So that whole year I was putting out content every day, three a day. That was my, like, you know, you know my little formula. If I put three a day, they gonna see me three times a day. You were focused on Instagram at the time?
Starting point is 00:11:50 YouTube and Instagram, okay. You know, on Instagram, I'm like, look, my whole plan is this and still is this. You know, look, let me go ahead and build some type of, you know, resume somewhere. Let me go crazy somewhere to build my YouTube content up, you know what I'm saying? Because I always want to be a YouTuber. So I'm like, all right, let me go ahead and make these funny skits on Instagram. You know, I'll see people that's catching some heat. So I was doing that every day, just trying to go crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Like, boom, let me get one. Let me get one to go viral. Man, it was the last one for 2019. I went viral. Right. That last month I went viral. Everything else didn't do nothing. That one video I did went crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Because I seen the struggle as I was going through your videos and as I kept going back further and further and further, I'm like, oh, okay, 400 views. Like, this is the period before the shit started cracking up. I be telling people, like, it comes with consistency. Like, you got to be on it. Like, you got to really want it because you ain't going to see no type of, you ain't going to read no fruits of your labor in two weeks.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Like, or in a month. It's very rare. And I'd rather my growth be organic. Even a year, bro. Even a year. Couple years. Yeah, you know, you'd rather your growth be organic. Like, look at Blass for us.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Shout out to Blass. Blass is dope. You got to think about it. He's been doing music. You know, producing. I tell the niggas that all the time. The nigga been doing music, bro, since the early 2010.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Beano too. Been doing music for a minute. And you see their growth is organic now. They don't got to, like, if they stop for a little bit, people are still going to be waiting. A lot of artists can't just wait two months. And then people like, where the next track out? Where the next, you know, album, whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:16 That shit inspires the fuck I mean. the time that I'll be interviewing somebody and I'll realize like, oh shit, like I've only known about you for a couple of months, but you've been grinding for like eight years before you and you are only here right now because you didn't give up. And like 99% of the people you probably started rapping with right now are not thinking about rapping at all. That's kind of amazing, that's true. That's how I go with even with what I do. Like I was vlogging in 2017 and my junior senior senior year. I was still picking it up, you know, picking up the camera now and then people's laughing at me high school. Like, look crazy, bro. Like, like, you're
Starting point is 00:13:47 What is you doing? Like, you know, what are you doing? You know, and I'm like, I don't care. I'm a dude. Like, I remember the teacher told me, he was like, I'm like, yeah, I want to be a millionaire one day. This nigga told me, oh, I'm a teacher. I'm barely halfway there.
Starting point is 00:13:59 That's crazy. As a teacher, he don't want you to be better than him. I said, well, I'm like, wait, what? I said, that's because you're, you know, not, you know, not to know teachers. I don't like, you know, making people feel, you know. Fuck that nigga. But, like, you know, I'm talking about, nah, forget, bro. I'm talking about, like, teachers, period.
Starting point is 00:14:13 You know, teachers say, you know, appreciate the good teachers, but teachers like that, I hate it. I'm against people who knocking somebody down with whatever they're trying to do. They put their own insecurity. Yeah, like, how are you going to tell me because, oh, I'm a teacher. I'm not even halfway there that I can't make a million dollars. If you're a teacher, it's not your job to, like, moderate a kid's dreams, you know? Let them dream big, even if they ain't going to necessarily make it where they want to go.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Like, the last thing you should be doing is telling them not, you're not going to be that. Yeah, where you know, we need to tell somebody what they're not going to do. You never know what somebody gonna be. That's why I don't knock nobody in what they do. Like, if you're trying to do something, do it. Do it, man, don't ever stop. Because trust me, the same way I could be like, man, you suck, man. Millions of other people would think it's brilliant.
Starting point is 00:14:58 So, man, Keith, that's why I'm like, I teach you this some weird. I've seen that shit happen a million times too. Yeah, like crazy. Were you inspired by like more traditional comedians or TV show type people doing skits and doing TV stuff? Or were you actually inspired by people you saw on Instagram and YouTube? What's crazy about it is like my favorite like comedian is like Martin Lawrence. I love Martin Lawrence. Like Martin Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:15:21 You're a young guy to be appreciating him. Martin Lawrence, Bernie Mac. Bernie Mac was so. They're funny. Like they got that natural organic, you know, they ain't even got to do too much. They just say something. They make you laugh. And this is one creator of Kevin Edwards Jr.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I don't know if y'all know who he is back in the day. He was a Bakersfield creator. He was dope. He was doing skits. He'd do YouTube videos. I was watching him when I was in like high school. I'm just like, dang bro's dope. Like, he's hard.
Starting point is 00:15:45 He's, he's going crazy, you know. So it's a lot of people I look at, I be like, man, they're hard. But it's like, I always want to be a YouTuber. So it was like that, like the skits and stuff just fell on it. Like, just fell on me because I was doing it to build up YouTube or, you know, whatever I want to do. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, that's pretty much how I go.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Like, I look up until I watch Martin, you know, Bernie Mac, those type of guys. And, you know, but YouTube and, like, that's really where I be at. It is crazy. All the time. You're talking about even a couple years ago when you were in school and shit. And at that time, did you feel like you were looking at YouTubers and looking at the people who were doing all this kind of content? But there wasn't necessarily that many people who were doing that shit that people your age
Starting point is 00:16:26 in high school in LA that they related to. Like they saw it as some other shit that they didn't really get. Like it was kids in my, you know, in my school, my age, just was watching YouTube, but it was really like kind of like corny to them. It was like, it's cool. Like, yeah, you know, the YouTube content is dope. But it's like some of the stuff that they do it don't kind of like, it's like, damn, you doing that for some views or, you know, it's like, it'll coincide with the, yeah. It's like, yeah, it's like, what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And most of the people they could probably look at are like white, rich, not coming from a struggle, not, you know, it's just they're in a different world, you know. You got some of these YouTubers who come to LA and they're like, oh, LA, that's not LA, bro. And that's my thing I want to say on the show, too, like, living in Hollywood or like somewhere out Hamburg, no, knock to no places. but it's like, oh, L.A. fake, they boozy. L.A. ain't boozy. That's a very specific part of L.A. Everybody sucks that.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Don't hit, don't go past the 110 freeway. That's what I'm saying. Niggas always say that shit. And it'd be like, damn, like, you know, I want to take that towards, like, as far as YouTube, like, man, you know what? Let me set a standard. Like, L.A., as far as whatever,
Starting point is 00:17:30 is never corny. You know what I'm saying? Like, never corny, never fake boozy, most realest people you can know. And it's like, they only say that because they see it. people that's not really from the city come out here and move here for a certain time.
Starting point is 00:17:43 And they're putting a bad image on the L.A. You know what I'm saying? But the L.A. they're talking about is not South Central. Bro, that's just stupidest. I tell people that all the time. Everybody goes to Hollywood and they meet motherfuckers that are not from here. And they say, well, L.A. is weird.
Starting point is 00:17:58 LA people. I'm like, my name. Everybody's fake. Come past the 110 freeway and see how fake and real shit. I mean, how fake shit is and we'll show you. Hollywood is a place where people move to make it. To be in show business. You know, it's like that's very different than the trenches where people actually grew up here.
Starting point is 00:18:13 If you go there, you're going to meet some of the realest people that you ever met. Come to Central Laundra, nigga. Man, some of the realest people, for real. Like, you're going to meet some of the genuine. We're genuine. Like, for real. Like, it's nothing fake about it. Nothing fake about it.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And it's just be like, man, I just wish, you know, well, one day I am going to get to a point where it's like, okay, they can really see the real. You know what I'm like, now, they're some real genuine people, you know. But it's like. At what point did you really? realize like, oh, the shit that people are really going to gravitate towards is me talking about what the streets of LA are really all about. Like, when did that start to click? That first video.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I'm like, man, I've been putting out so much content for so long, like, just trying to figure myself out with them whatever I'm doing. And it's just like, them learning about LA is just so, like, they love it. People love it. Because it's like, LA is just, they're just so infatuated by the city. Like, they just love the city so much. And it's like, man, when you talk about it and then you give it, you, you, you giving it to them where they can, you know, learn and laugh and enjoy it and enjoy it,
Starting point is 00:19:14 it's just like it's a good combination. I feel like that's why it goes a long way. I'm like, when I figured that out, I'm like, all right, yeah, okay, let me go ahead and figure out different ways I could, you know, present this in, you know, different ways. That's why I do the hats, do the little characters or whatever, you know, just different stuff to kind of spice it up a little bit while also keeping in L.A. You know, you don't want to water it down too much, you know, where people from L.A., like, nah, that ain't us, bro.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Like, I don't know what he's talking about. So that is not connect. Is that ever a concern though that you're going to basically kind of like stereotype a certain area and say, don't wear this hat because these dudes are fucking crazy and then certain people would be like, yo, bro, we don't appreciate. Like, are you conscious of that, a thing like that? I just, I mean, I know what line I'm to cross. Because, you know, I don't, that's not my life.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Like, I don't gang bang, you know what I'm saying. So the only thing I could do is tell you what I know. And, you know, tell you what I, you know, I got cousins from everywhere. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, just don't cross a certain line. You know, everybody know that line across. You don't cross, even as a creator. You know, you don't get into politics that you ain't supposed to be in.
Starting point is 00:20:14 You know what I'm saying? So it's like the videos that I make and, like, I just keep it, you know, straight hats and keep it the how it's supposed to be. And I feel like everybody, you know, I haven't had no problems from it. Like, I haven't received no problem. I know you got mad love because I'm watching your random blogs and there's like 40-year-old ladies being like, oh, that's the dude with the hats. Yeah, literally, literally. Nah, I got a story. I swear I was in the Fox Hills Mall, man.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I was in the Fox Hills, I was, I think it was just me, and my girl or my mom. It was one, it was, I had either my mom or my girl with me. Man, I'm walking. I'm walking up the, everybody, you walk in the Fox Hills, Macy's, you turn the right, make that left up the escalator near the Western name. You got the Seas Candy that was right there. I'm walking over there towards like, what's that shoe, that's a shoe spot near there. Anyway, I'm walking over there.
Starting point is 00:20:59 My nigga, it's like, it's like 12, 9 to 12 grown niggas. Like, I'm talking about it. look like they was about it, for real. Like, ratio high, for sure. I'm watching them like, okay, yeah, they press rage. They're looking like they own something. They're looking to press something. So I'm like, God damn, what I'm going to do?
Starting point is 00:21:15 I'm like, all right, hold on. I'm going to just keep walking. If I walk off, they're going to look suspicious. It's like, this nigga is like, you know, you're walking toward somebody. You see a group of them and you're trying to get on. They own you already now. Who is this nigga? Like, why are you running?
Starting point is 00:21:27 Saying, you know, so I'm like, man, hell, no, let me just walk. Man, they like, ain't that funny car? That's funny cut. I'm like, oh, cool. I'm like, I'm straight in. They like, ain't that? Because I'm walking and I can see them looking like. I'm like, damn, we put my hat back.
Starting point is 00:21:43 So, you know, let me, you know. They're like, hey, that's funny cut. I'm like, cool. I got saved by the bill. Shaking their hand, boom, boom, boom. Taking pictures. It was cool. Like, you know, it was real love, genuine love.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And even with the bloods, it would happen like that in Vegas. My cousin was there with me. I was in the car. We sitting in the car. He's staring into the car. I'm like, who is bro? Like, that's one thing too. You never know who know you or whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:08 So it's like you, you know, he looked in the car. He's like, oh, this is funny. He's shaking my hand and stuff. I'm like, oh man, but you know, yeah, like to answer that, it's like, you know, it's just nothing but love. I really ain't received nothing crazy. It's all about the energy you put out there because I remember even like outcast when they were blowing up
Starting point is 00:22:24 back in the day like 98, 99 that they were talking about like, yeah, all these other rappers need security and guns and all this shit. And like we don't really have to deal with that so much because we are like putting out positivity and nobody's really, you know, we're not talking about street shit, etc. So we don't have to deal with a lot of that. I feel like, you know, with you, it's like, you're not out to offend anybody. So why would they? I'm not out to be nothing I'm not trying to be. Yeah. I don't, I don't, I respect every gang member in every hood because they really do that. You know what I'm saying? Like you don't ever make it like you just some nigga who you're
Starting point is 00:22:54 not. Like, I'm not no street nigga. I'm not a punk though. You know, that's one thing. I'm not, I don't portray myself to be no thug. Like, I'm about it. Like if I see what's up, like, that's not me. That's a character I play. But I feel like real niggas understanding they know that. All right, this little niggas, he's trying to come up. Like, you know, he's fighting his way. That's all I want to be received as, you know, a real solid individual. I'm not no tough guy.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I'm not no thug. None of that. Not no punk either. But I'm just, you know, I'm a solid individual. And I'm not trying to be no troll either, you know. Play like, you know, everybody know the trolls, you know, but I don't want to be playing with that. I don't want no parts in that, man.
Starting point is 00:23:25 That's like talking to your brother about raising his kid and shit. And, like, you know, that's like the conversation we had is like, how do you convince, like, a young. young dude coming up living in Compton, et cetera. How do you convince them that it's a lot better to just be a cool dude who can fuck with everybody and respects everybody, et cetera, and doesn't feel the need to try to justify his manhood through violence? How do you get the ball rolling of having somebody have that attitude early on?
Starting point is 00:23:53 Because I see that with you where like you've managed to like grow up in the middle of the shit and then still get love without having to necessarily like define yourself that way, you know? You gotta find something you like to do. He found something that he wanted to stick to. And, you know, even like bringing my nephew over here, he wants to get into YouTube, he wants to get into gaming. So to be a young kid to come see this,
Starting point is 00:24:14 it's like, wow, this is possible. Like, my dad or my uncle is doing this. You know what I mean? And the thing about it, like, that's why I tell you, like the city real, like real niggas gonna understand that and they're going back you. A lot of them going back you. Like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:24:26 Go ahead and do that. You know, they'll rather you not. They'd rather you be yourself than being something that you're not. You know what I'm saying? Like, I thought about that earlier. I already knew. Like, yeah, I got to find some. You know, like, they love the hood niggas love hoopers.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Streets love hoopers. Niggers who make music. If you're good at football, like, you know, people paint this picture. Like, a lot of people is, the gang members, they don't want you to succeed that shit. They just, niggas on the block who hate everything. It's not like that. Because, I mean, you grew up watching, like, commercials where it's like, oh, you know, you can't walk home from school without somebody making you join the Crips, you know? It's like that for most people, right?
Starting point is 00:25:05 Yeah, for my, I feel like, but some people, no, some people, it's different. Like, some people is just, they was born into it. Like, some people had to, you know, it's just everybody's situation is different, I could say. You know what I'm saying, but from what I know is if you want to be somebody, it's like, they're not fin of, oh, no, he's a weirdo because you want to be somebody. Especially these days, because, like, honestly, even when we were growing up, the people that we were looking up to in rappers and stuff, it's like they all kind of had
Starting point is 00:25:31 to put themselves out there as tough. And I feel like now it's like the number one career when you ask young kids what they want to be when they grow up, they want to be a YouTuber, an influencer, a TikToker. And like you, that's why what you're doing is so dope is because you and other people like watch Homie Kwan, et cetera, have really kind of like opened that up and said like, you don't have to be putting yourself out there like Mr. Tough Guy all the time. You can be an entertainer. You can be somebody who is just having fun on the internet and making people laugh.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And that's by far a totally acceptable option. I feel like that's the thing, too. Like, it's the options. Like, a lot of people don't know you can pick up a camera and make 30, 40,000 a month. You know, they don't know you can make rapper money if you get up there like that. You know, you don't really got to, you know, just hoop or play football, you know, or rap even. You know what I'm saying? You could pick up a camera and be yourself.
Starting point is 00:26:18 And people will love you the same way they love, you know, these celebrity football players, basketball players and, you know, music artists. You know? But yeah. You ever had anybody actually get pissed at you, though? Like, have you ever crossed the line and had somebody get upset? No situation like that. Nah, that's a good sign. I've never had nobody like, oh, bro, you're acting like you, you know, you're too hard or you think you know some.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I've never had, I've never ran into no group of people, none of that. Every group of gang, people who really live this, it's always been, nah, man, I like what you're doing. You know, I love it. You know, keep doing your thing. You know, keep pushing, keep striving. You know, it's just all love. I've never ran it to nobody who was just like, nah, I don't like what you're doing. I think that's because you do the representative part of it.
Starting point is 00:26:59 You don't do like the dissing and, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's like, you, you, it's, it's, but like, your page and your skits that you make is like so real and it's like, I ain't never seen nobody like, like, damn, like, when you really from LA and you see that shit, you're like, damn, this nigga is spot on. Appreciate it, bro. I wish you would have bought the PS5 controller, you feel me? I was thinking about that shit. I was thinking about it, man.
Starting point is 00:27:21 But yeah, that's all I, that's all I really try to do, like, you know, because when I made the first video, like, my whole intention was, I didn't know it was going to go viral. I feel like anybody even, you know, like doing what we do, like even YouTube or whatever, you never can anticipate a viral video. It can make it do good. You're like, oh, it's going to do good. But like viral, like where it's just crazy, I didn't know it was going to go viral. I literally just posted a video like I post other ones.
Starting point is 00:27:46 That was a video. With the three videos a night, I did one in the morning. I'm like, okay, this one going to be good. The second one, I'm like, it's going to be dope. The third one that one that blew up, I'm like, this one. You know, this is something to put out. You know, next morning my phone was hot. I had to turn it off.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Like it just went crazy. So it was just like, that's the video. After I've seen it, I'm like, okay, they love, they love the city, like they love LA. Like they just love it. I'm like, you know, and of course it's gonna go far. I'm from LA, you know. Everybody that followed me was from LA,
Starting point is 00:28:13 so I'm like, I gotta get in what they love to see. It was real. Doing three videos a day is kind of like, it's easy in a way when you need every last dollar and when you're really like fighting to make a name for yourself. Once you started to get successful, did it become a little bit more challenging?
Starting point is 00:28:29 Because number one, people have preconceived notions about you. They want you to make the shit you already made. And, you know, like, you might get sort of burnt out. Even if you're broke and you're fighting, and then all of a sudden you have $10,000 in the bank, you might be kind of feeling like, well, I don't got to wake up every day and do this. So maybe you lose focus. Have you dealt with that?
Starting point is 00:28:46 Like me, it's more so, like, you know, making something dope. You know, like, I could put out three videos every day if I wanted to. I could pick up the camera and just, but I want to give out, you know, put out some dope people going to enjoy to watch. Because I know I am as a consumer. of content. I just like dope content. Like, if it's dope, I want to watch it. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, but I always want to just keep it, you know, keep it fresh and don't be so stagnant in one lane, you know. That's why I'm trying to do everything.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Like anything you can think of I'm trying to do. You know what I like about you is that you'll tell a story that's like basically like you'll get through the whole 15 minute video and you'll sometimes realize like not that much happened, but you'll explain every part of the story. You'll be like, so I'm in the parking lot of the Ralph's and the cart guy. He's pushing the Clark. And you're, like, pointing out all these little things about so that somebody can really, like, understand that environment. I'm going into detail. But I got that storytelling stuff from Kendrick. Like, I'm a big fan of Kendrick Lamar. That's funny because I was about to compare you to him as a comedian version of him in a way. He goes into detail about everything to where you're going to think of body like, man. And if you're from LA and I tell you, I was at the, you know, I was at the Fox Hills Mall, walking to like I there earlier. You're going to picture it because you're from there.
Starting point is 00:29:57 So you're going to see everything I'm talking about. When you were saying this shit, I swear to God, I was picturing, you going upstairs and seeing these are big musseling me in my mind. Nine brawling niggas, you feel me? Exactly. That's right, though. So, you know, really being, you know, paying attention to detail, you know what I'm saying, is what I love to do, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:16 So that's what I can make, I can make, all we talked about now story time when I get home and it'll be 30, 40 minutes. Because I just go into detail, very good, very good at going into detail. Paying attention to detail. That's what I like. That's why I even went to the gestures I do, I pay attention to everything. It's funny too because I remember
Starting point is 00:30:33 when I first started making YouTube videos, sometimes I would just, I'm like, oh shit, I got a story from five years ago, 10 years ago where I ended up having to beat somebody up or I ended up getting into a fight outside of bar or whatever. Like at first I was kind of using all those stories to be like, you know, crazy-ass title.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Like I got jumped by 10 dudes. I didn't actually do that by like, you know, crazy shit like that. But at a certain point, Do you feel like you have kind of exhausted a lot of your best stories in terms of really telling the craziest shit that happened to? Because now you're older, you're probably moving a little smarter. You might not be impressed because you're moving around the right way. That's one thing that I'm going through with my channel as we speak.
Starting point is 00:31:10 They love my story times. But I don't want to be, I always tell my boys or, you know, anybody that asks me, I don't want to put out no fake, you know, stories. It's so easy to lie, right? It's easy. I could easily sell a good L.A. story. You know what I'm saying? I could lie and make up every, you know, I could lie about everything. I'm saying, but it's like, I'd rather it be genuine and real, you know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I practice, you know, real, you know, genuine, you know, moves. I don't want to be one of them content curious. He'd be like, ah, that nigger lying. He's faking. Once you, you know, once you get that on your back, it's like, that's a cold thing to have on your back, like, fraudulent. It's like, damn, that's why I'm like, no, I can't do it. But that is funny because in the real comedy world, you can just lie.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Like, like, when you, when they tell stories and shit, it'll be like a tiny little seed of a real story and then they'll just start exaggerating that. But then you talk to him in, like, an interview format, and they'll be like, that didn't really happen like that. You know, like, that's acceptable in a way. It was crazy is with the, like, everybody's like, man, you should do stand-up. Or like, man, that's not me.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Like, literally, it's not me. I'm not be telling people all the time, like, it's not me. Like, I don't, I've never just, I can't watch stand-up comedy sequence. I never could watch it. Like, my boy, I tell you, Bram-Brand right here, tell you, like, and you don't like watch it. It's just, I just, I don't know. It's just not me.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Like, I can't do that. It's like stand up and try to make a million people live. Like, I respect the fuck out, especially because I listened to so many comedians do podcasts over the year. So I feel like I know what goes into it and how much hard work it is. And I respect stand-up comedians. People don't understand. Like, I actually looked into it.
Starting point is 00:32:33 People like, oh, yeah, I'm like, now that ain't me. But of course you're going to go look and see, you know, you're going to kind of doing stand-up is tough. Anybody doing stand-up comedy, I take my hat off to you, bro, because that's tough. Like, you're working on a project for months, you know, your lines. You may go in front of all the people and they don't laugh. So it's like, that's a tough thing to do. You know, so I'm like, yeah, like, you know, stand up. If you put out a YouTube video and people don't like it that much, it's like, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Like, just not that many people click on it. It's not that devastating. You're kind of like, oh, back to the drawing board. It's like, I'm back to the drawing board. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm back to it. You know, let's go. I'm going to do this.
Starting point is 00:33:07 They don't fuck with it. Back to the drawing board. Like, we're going to keep going back. Right. Like, even with, like, I do music, too. I was noticing on. You go, I do music. I'd be having fun with it, too, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:18 But that's something like, I'm like, uh, shout out to my big bro, that nigga, Beano. I would say him something. And that nigga be like, nah, this is this nice, bro. Like, you know, you know, you're going to wake him up soon. And I'm just like, you know, I'm going to find myself in that, you know, because I'm not going to put that on nobody. You know, everybody ain't going to like it, you know, so I'm not the type, man, y'all weird for not. But I'm going to, you know, something going to be there.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Whoever gravitate to it, gravitate to it. You know, that's something I'm going to be doing, though, just in case you want to, you know. But, yeah, I'm not going to force that on nobody because it's thousands of rappers out here. But, you know, I'm gonna figure it out with that, you know, but that's something I'm getting into too. Right. Hell yeah, YouTube, that building this, my Instagram page to boost my YouTube.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Once I get that YouTube going, do some music, start my own label. I got a lot of, I got a lot of stuff playing. You know, it's just all, you know, just, you know, connecting the dots with everything, so everything could go. Because I was gonna say, yeah, what do you see as like the future
Starting point is 00:34:08 that you're sort of trying to draw out here? Like, I mean, you have like a nice seed of something going here, a nice bass. Yeah. But I know you probably also have all kinds of stuff popping up in your brain of how you could do things on a bigger level. Like would you want to do TV? Would you want to...
Starting point is 00:34:22 I mean, obviously the music thing is great. It's a great creative outlet. Yeah, I mean, with me, it's like I do anything that can, you know, take my brand to another level. You know, Xavier, you know, anything that can help Xavier, you know what I'm saying? But I'm also do stuff I know, like I love to do. Because I feel like if you're doing something you don't love to do, you ain't going to really do it. You know, like maybe movies ain't, you know, for everybody or maybe, you know, being a comedian stand-up. comedian ain't for everybody. If you don't love it, you're not going to really put your all into it.
Starting point is 00:34:48 But really, like, my, to answer your question is to build a good foundation of people who rock with me. So whatever I put out they love, because they love Xavier, you know, just put out a good, you know, just build a good fan basis. That's what you need is numbers. You got the people and they love you, they don't want to see you in whatever you do. And if you want to, like, get a TV show these days, your Instagram, if you have like, you know, content on there or your YouTube, that's basically just like a presentation towards the people who might give you a TV. show. You know, that's just the way that you sort of show them what skills you have, you know? Yeah, literally. Like, literally. Everything you put on your Instagram and your YouTube is,
Starting point is 00:35:22 really like an audition take if you want to be an actor, really. Because a lot of actors, you know, if you start off on Instagram and you, you're showing you can act, they may hit you. I had a lot of roles throwing it, like, you know, little, certain little, you know, little mini roles that was thrown at me just from doing Instagram skits. And it's like, that's not even something I was looking to, you know, you know, do, but it just fall into your hands, you know. So, you know, You want to act. Get on Instagram. It's crazy too, though, because when we have different people who do sort of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:51 street comedy type shit on the podcast, a lot of those are like huge numbers. Like the Long Beach Griffey one that we just did, which his is some of my favorite skits, you know? He is fucking hilarious. His interview went crazy. Lou Ratchet from Pittsburgh, but he talks about a lot of street shit and everything. His shit went crazy. People fucking love that one.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Same thing with seeing you blow up. I feel like it's really actually kind of like the early days. of that kind of content. Like, people want that shit, you know? Yeah, man. Yeah, that's why they always tell me, man, we want to see you in some movies. I'm like, you know, if this and God's planning to happen, you know.
Starting point is 00:36:24 But, you know, I like to, you know, just focus on what I, you know, this Instagram, YouTube and, you know, getting them things, you know, because in the future, them two platforms and TikTok as well, it's going to take over. You've been going hard on TikTok as well? Heck yeah. I blew up even more on TikTok. How many followers you got on there? 400,000.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Almost half a million. Nice. Almost half a million. Like I literally in one year, I got more followers on TikTok than YouTube and Instagram combined. Wow. So it's like TikTok is a new wave too. Like get on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Whatever you do, man, there's a lot of artists blowing up on TikTok. They put a song on TikTok and it take them to a whole other level. How are the comments different on TikTok versus like YouTube and Twitter? Because it is a different audience, right? Oh, you think it's the same. No, not just different platforms. You write different audiences, but the comments is damn they're the same. Like, you know, it's just like, you know, they're laughing or they, they commenting of,
Starting point is 00:37:17 you got people from L.A. like, oh, yeah, this is true. Or people that's from, you know, because some rules that apply to L.A. is everywhere. You know, some of the cases, you know, gang banking is gang banking. You know what I'm saying? So somebody from New York will be like, oh, he's funny. You know, someone's Chicago. Oh, he's funny. I got a lot of people from everywhere.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Like, no, it's from, it's L.A., but it's still like the same, you know, like, you know, it's the same vibe. And every other city that has gangs looks at L.A. and is curious about what's going on in LA because they know it's where it came from and they're just curious because it's like if it works one way here, how's it worked in other places? Like that's one of the craziest things that I noticed is
Starting point is 00:37:53 like I've interviewed dudes who are like straight street dudes and gotten so many fucking views from people who basically were like not famous at all but they clearly like had like a real life in the streets and people want to know so fucking bad. I mean Crip Mac, his view count
Starting point is 00:38:09 is insane. Like that's one that just blew my mind. I'm like, wow, like the audience really wants to hear about what's going on from real people who are out there. Man, exactly. Like, if you can tell them a good L.A. story or just, they'll love it. They love it. People just love L.A. so much. You want to do some skits with Krip Mac?
Starting point is 00:38:28 I don't mind it. Oh, that's a good idea. And that's the thing, too. Like, even when people be like, damn, like, this nigga don't collab with nobody. I'm just, I just be on my own. Like, it ain't no knock to nobody. You know what I'm saying? I just don't really be collabing.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Like, you know, it's just, that's just not my type of getting. I don't know, like, I just never been somebody that's like, man, let's do this, you know. Like, you know, let's work. I'll just be in my own lane. Right. Because a lot of people ask for a lot of collab, like, man, when you're gonna collab with so and so, so.
Starting point is 00:38:54 It's like, man, due time. Like, you know, and I figure myself out, you know, I gotta, you know, figure it out first before I, because I don't wanna be them type of thing. It's just like, it's a lot that goes in with me. Like, I see how I go, right? You'll do a video, you'll blow up. Let's say something happened.
Starting point is 00:39:09 reason why I, you're only reason why you there because you did. So I'm talking, I'm getting it on my own until I get where I want to be first. You know what I'm saying? That's the only reason I don't be collabing with a lot of people. You know what I'm saying? I just be sticking to, you know, let me build my brand when I get to a certain level. Once I get there, then I can help other people get up too. That's super smart, bro, because a lot people don't think like that. Yeah, that's why like a lot of the, a lot of the, a lot of the, a lot of the knick is oh, man, that ain't no hard feelings. It's just, you know, I see a way I want to do it, and I'm a stick to that until I get to where I want to be.
Starting point is 00:39:39 success and really built a name for yourself pretty young too. And I kind of respect that of like if you start to have real success when you're young, like you might want to be kind of precautionous because you might not want to dive all the way in on that. You might want to kind of like, you know, pull back a little bit to just be able to peep the scene and see exactly what moves make the most sense to make at that time, you know? Exactly. That's why, you know, I rather everything, you know, if I go up, it's all me or, you know, my team and my family, then, you know, somebody else.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Or even if I go, I'd rather be, even if I, you know, decrease, I'd rather be, you know, on my terms than be doing something and it don't work out. You know, I'd rather be, you know what? I'm going to handle Xavier TV, how I handle Xavier TV. You know what I'm saying? So that's all. I'll just be like, I just got to stick, stick through this, get to it. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Do you go out at night, like our friend here? Or do you stay in the house like me? I'm being in the crib. I'm being in the crib, still trying to figure it out. Right. I'm at the house working, like working. Like, if I'm not posting, I'm working. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Figuring some of them. Whether I'm recording music, I'm doing a YouTube video, I'm doing the Instagram video, something. You know, I'm figuring out new content to put out every day. So it's like, I don't got time to go out yet. You know what I'm saying? I ain't, you know, reached a certain status. If you leave the house, only bad things can happen. Bad things happen when you leave the house, man.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Yeah, right. You're always telling me about headbutting somebody or whatever. That's a fucking lie. Hey, Dever, get down. No, no. Back in the day. Before he stopped drinking. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:41:11 No, nigga. I used to make bad decisions when I was drinking, though. I ain't going to lie. It's kind of part of it. That's what alcohol is good for. Yeah. Do you smoke and you drink?
Starting point is 00:41:21 I don't smoke. I drink on occasion. Like, give me something I'm celebrating. Like, I haven't celebrated my plaque yet, so I'm going to celebrate that. Yeah, you two black? Congratulations. A hundred cake, got the silver up on the wall.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Man, man, that thing, man, man, that's my dream. YouTube is my dream, man. I want to be one of the greatest to do it. Or whatever, the best Xavier TV I could be on YouTube, that's what I want to be. So when that gold plaque coming, I don't know how I'm handling. Like a big stramaganza. What's the last thing you saw in terms of a TV show, a movie, a documentary, whatever, that really inspired the fuck out of you and made you like, I'm a film tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I'm gonna fucking crush shit tomorrow. Like, I, you know, like, sometimes you just see a piece of content that gets you really riled up, you know? Really everything, bro. Like, I would say a show, to answer you a question. and snowfall really I see it snow floor I'll be like God I gotta film something like damn that's it too real snowfall so hard like that's a that's a hard show but like content period when I see people on your page or see AD doing something see O T everybody from the city grinding like me seeing blast B no everybody just going crazy that make me like man I got a whole mind up you know I gotta
Starting point is 00:42:27 make sure I'm coming hard I can't be the one like you know it's just man like everything like it just make me want to, you know, go hard for sure. I told my girl, he's probably going to say something funny because what? I like your girl that. She's cool. No, no, no, because when I said, uh, when I said, uh, when I said, uh, when I said, uh, yeah, I've been watching your shit since high school, he said, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:42:46 But nah, I told my girl, I'm like, watch. No jumper going to be the first interview I do. Really? Bad ass. But I know that you're planning your career out in the long term, too, because I was trying to get you like a year ago. And I feel like you wanted to build more. I'm like, no, what I put, I think I'll put it in a couple weeks or something.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Okay. Yeah, I put in a couple weeks. I got it. He probably didn't like that. Yeah, no, no, no. I let people be on their own time line, you know? That they'll be like, who does he think he is? No, I said, no, somebody, no, somebody, they sent me A.
Starting point is 00:43:17 They sent me 80 clip where you were, oh, you shouted me out. Oh, yeah. I'm like, hey, that's what's up. I felt like we talked about you a few times. Yeah, yeah. And he was like, man, you shunning no jumper, are you putting down? I'm like, I had to tell somebody like, hell no. Like, I'm like, I'm like, dude.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I'm not bigger than no program. Like, you know, I'm a humble nigga. Like, I ain't the type of image I'm trying to put out there. I like that. Nobody's bigger than the program. I've been saying that a lot. No, you heard that from me, nigga. The fuck up. Bosco goes, I ain't never heard you say that.
Starting point is 00:43:44 When you been saying that? No, but that's going to be the new merch. Nobody bigger than the program. That's hard. But like literally, I told my girl, this was before I blew up, too. Like, right? I'm like, yeah, nah, I'm going to be on no jump in my first interview. Everything I call out of happened.
Starting point is 00:43:59 That's amazing. I'm big on that, too. with you a girl before you started popping up? No, I was talking to her. Like really, I've been, I knew her. Then you blew up and she was like, all right, I'll date you. No, I knew her since high school since ninth grade. She got in on early stage.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Early angel investor. Nah, I knew her. I knew her since ninth grade. She always been cool. I always liked her, for sure. But I just never really, like me, I was always a relationship with guys. So I had something back then. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:21 But she had to wait that out. Yeah. You know, that type of shit, oh, man. So, yeah, you know, but what, you know, I always told her, I'm like, I always tell people like, you know, you call. certain stuff, I'll just gonna happen. Like, I'm gonna say on the show and we're gonna look back. In a few years with this music,
Starting point is 00:44:36 do that. But does, uh, shake my head, I believe it. Does having a strong woman in your corner tell me about how that empowers you to really kill it with the content? You need that base, right? My mom, too. My mom was the strong woman in my corner and my aunties, all of them. You know, they, they, I grew up in a house full of women.
Starting point is 00:44:54 So it's like, you know. Me too? So it's like, I always had that strong support system, you know, behind me, my mom. You know, so it's like, that's what really had me doing all this. Seeing her struggle, you know, you don't want to see her mom struggling. It's like, you don't want to go to street walk, the street route because you know where that go. So I'm like, I got to figure out something that's clean and something I could get in where I'm like, all right, I could do this every day. But I have to worry about the, you know, the bad shit coming with it.
Starting point is 00:45:17 You know, I can just get the money, feed my family and just be there, you know, for him. Right. Yeah, that's pretty much how. I always think about how Watson and Kwan, like, fully put his, he just kept his foot on Nick Cannon's neck until he got the shot on Wilden's neck until he got the shot on Wilden out. He got that fan base and then use the fan base to be like, yo, give me a shot, and then while I'm not fucked with him. I mean, that to me is like the real power of social media right there. You build up the following, you build up people who love you,
Starting point is 00:45:42 and then you're able to sort of use the platform to get into the positions that you want to be in. That's fire. You know, to chase something you want and using your brand to get there, that's dope, for real. Like, anybody doing that, that's goat level stuff. Like when you could use your platform to make, to make. To make your dream happen, like, that's big. That's real big. That's why I'm like, hats off to him.
Starting point is 00:46:05 He's doing this thing. For sure. It was like, that's dope. That's a dope thing to do. Use anything you built and make a dream happen out of it. You do that. You want another level. Because nobody gave you nothing.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Definitely. You started it from zero followers. Like, zero. I know how that feels. Zero followers, you pushing out content every day to get where you want. That's one of the hardest ways of getting something. But everybody needs to be careful on Instagram these days because they'd be deleting you,
Starting point is 00:46:29 for fucking anything these days. When I went to look at your Instagram, I was almost like, wow, I'm surprised that he ain't get popped or something because it seems like they fuck with everybody these days. Man, man, I hope. I'm afraid. Fingers crossed, knock on wood.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Yeah, man, I hope they don't do that. I got like three violations of four. I'm like nothing. Yeah, I hope they don't do that to me, man. I've been seeing that. People, Instagram's getting taken away and they can't go live. They took this nigga shit for what?
Starting point is 00:46:52 A whole week. For like a weekend, yeah. God, thank God. I was just somebody trolling, trying to get me taken away. No, somebody. That's the thing I hate too that I feel like Instagram, TikTok, they got a fix. When somebody report your page or do some, they got to really look into that because that's not fair.
Starting point is 00:47:08 A lot of the times it could be, they just hating to see you win. You don't even do nothing. Yeah. And that's a lot of people's business, you know, it's like when I lost my Instagram too and I realized like there's 15 conversations I'm having right now about something I'm supposed to post, something I'm supposed to do, someone I'm supposed to interview, et cetera. Boom, it's all gone. And I can't even fucking remember who I was talking to. Never mind how to talk to those people. there was one guy who was coming to town
Starting point is 00:47:29 that I was supposed to link up with I didn't have his number or anything I was just talking on Instagram Where did they get? I mean I didn't meet up with him But My Instagram was gone I had a good excuse
Starting point is 00:47:42 Yeah see like stuff like that I'd be like man They got to look into that man Like that's something that's people That's they sometimes That's the only source of income Is Instagram At a point it was mine
Starting point is 00:47:52 So if my Instagram was taken away Like let's say four or five six months ago And I'll be hurt I'll be hurt because I ain't just start making money on YouTube until like the end of the last year. Right. Before it was a little something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:05 It started going crazy. It's fucked up too because it creates a bigger problem than it was there in the beginning because I see it all the time. We just interviewed East Side Egg Roll from Detroit and his, they delete his Instagram and then all of a sudden there's 10 fake pages pretending to be him and the names are super close to his original name. And the fake pages are eating. Oh yeah. The fake pages are eating. Yeah, they're eating because all you. you got to do is you got you got the followers the same damn near the the the main account got
Starting point is 00:48:32 you can sell promo our day just as well as they could because you got the the viewing and the numbers that's what i'd be telling numbers is everything it's people that made youtube channels with millions of them millions of subscribers ain't never showed they face right they just talking about a topic and getting views making money literally yeah i've been watching a channel of a dude who basically like he does like the war in shirac but for the bronx right now and i was i was talking to him and i'm like so you you You keep your fucking identity totally anonymous, huh? He's like, yep. Like, that's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Is he white? No. I don't think so. And he's making money. Probably making a hell of it killing off of YouTube. Shout out Swayze. Go search up Swayze's channel. Search him up.
Starting point is 00:49:11 But man, I'm telling you. Like, that's a whole other bag, man. YouTube's a whole other level, man. Well, I didn't even know how powerful was until I started doing this shit. Yeah. I saw, all these little white kids coming to me? I was like, this shit crazy. That's a whole other level.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Like, it's a whole other level. Like, I used to do crazy. crazy shit. Like the way I manifest is crazy. Like, n' guy, I go in the bathroom and practice to take pictures with people. The guy going to the bathroom and be posing like the ass-hous-hous going to be. I swear, nigga I wrote the, I drew
Starting point is 00:49:39 a fake plaque on my wall. I got a million subscriber plaque already on my wall. I already got it. It's not there. It's there, but it's, you know, it's in the works right now. Yeah. So that's just pending. Yeah, you know, it's just pending. They say it's pending until you get 900,000 more follows. Yeah, yeah, it's just pending right now.
Starting point is 00:49:55 So, you know, that's how I do it Everything I do. I just draw it out and I just work at it. You know, it's been working. Literally, everything I have wrote on my list, checked it off, checked it off, check it off. Everything. Yeah. So I'm like, what's a person who reposted one of your videos or comments on one of your videos
Starting point is 00:50:14 and you just, like, could not believe that they were looking at it? Like, somebody really popping her things. Oh, really? He commented on my impersonation of him. It wasn't the top of last year. Right. And it was a bunch of blogs like, can't. Cendrick Lamar posts, come out on the internet.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Kendrick farts, it's news. Like, he commented his people tagging me, like, Kendrick fan pages. Who are you? Like, why is he commenting under you? Wow. I'm like, I don't know. But I was hype. When he commented.
Starting point is 00:50:44 He just laughed. Yeah. He just laughed at it. I was hype when 03. 03 grito reposting me. He was the first person. Shout to O3 Grito. Free O3.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Free O'clock. Free O'clock. Free O'clock. Man, first rapper to ever repost my video. Really? This is when I was dancing to, um, uh, floating. Okay. That song loud.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. You always, no, what's rude songs? What's your song? What's the song with you?
Starting point is 00:51:12 Which one? Me and Grito? The blower. Oh, blower. Blower. Bro, me and Grito used to be in a group. Niggas don't know that shit. Damn, you in 03.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Yeah. That's dope. What was the group called? It was a call. about a 24-hour boys. The little rascals. The little rascals. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:51:33 But yeah, O-3, like, he's dope, man. That's one-do. O-3 is, man, hey, when he... Hey, hey. Praise up. We need that man to come home. That nigger always had that work as the two, though.
Starting point is 00:51:43 He's coming. He ain't doing the full 20. Hell no. We're going to get him. He's a couple years. O-3, he on the way. But O-3-3-Grito, hey, that's a... That nigger's cold.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Like, he's a genuine person, too. All the genuine people was winning in LA. Everybody that's genuine. O.T. Genesis showed me love reposting my video. He did. That's dope. O. T. Genesis. I was hype. I was happy. I'm like, shit. Like, that's lit. Like, they go, T. I'm like, ah, yeah. Like, all the genuine people is constantly winning. Like, everybody that's genuine. We literally fucking send your videos, bro, to like the DMs all the time, all the time. All the time. That's tough. That's lit. Like, that's lit. That's dope. And when I see, I'm like, man, like, everybody that's genuine is winning, bro. Like, everybody.
Starting point is 00:52:24 03 Gretto, O3 Gretto, genuine. Who you want to see win out of L.A. right now, like in terms of people that you're a fan of their music or their videos or whatever it is? Bram Brand, Jonathan, all the boys over there. I want to see them win because, you know, when my team to go up, of course I want to see everybody win. I don't mind everybody winning.
Starting point is 00:52:44 You know what I'm saying? But, you know, my boy. No, he said, I don't mind everybody. Yeah, everybody can win. Not them dudes, though. The other side, fuck all them. No. No, but, you know, I want to see, man.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I mean, I feel like they already winning, but, you know, like I said, Blasbino, AD, no, you know, Adel, you know, everybody. Fuck that, nigg. You got a nice little transplant guy going on in there. My nigger, my niggum. My niggino. Oh, my niggino. Oh, man. How does that feel to see?
Starting point is 00:53:16 I feel like he's somebody who was probably influenced by your come up and he's out here doing great too. Man, no, a do know. It's dope, bro. I mean, I seen them for the first time in the mall. You were like, what's up, poppy? What's up? I'm like, what they can do no, man? My guy, hey?
Starting point is 00:53:30 We were shaking hands, boom, boom, you know, exchange numbers. That's somebody I want to work with, too, only because I just feel like, I don't know. Like, when I meet somebody and I feel like you got a good, you know, you got a good spirit, I'm all off the vibes, you know? And you got a good vibe. I want to mind collaborating with you, because I feel like you wouldn't do no weird shit. Like if I do, oh, you know, the only reason why. So if you got a good heart and a good spirit and I meet you, I want mine working with anybody. I want to see you.
Starting point is 00:53:51 You and Duno in a roast battle on AD's podcast sometime soon. You come on there. I'll pop on. I'll pop off. Hey man, Duno is like you in a way where he has a sense of humor that's sort of very specific to Mexican people in LA where they get a lot of his jokes and shit. And he's telling that story, you know? It's crazy because I was seeing and like he followed me. I forgot when he followed me, but I remember when he posted that one video, he was at like 20,000 followers.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Bro went from 20 to like 70 in two days. I'm like, ooh, I was happy. I'm lit. Like, hey, you're going crazy, bro. Like, to see people go crazy, it's like something that I love seeing. Like, I love seeing, like, the people that be hating on people, I'm the opposite of that. I want to see you go crazy. Like, you know.
Starting point is 00:54:35 That's why you're going to win. This show, get a chance, get a TV, you know. So you got the right attitude. We need every kid in L.A. to have that attitude of just wanting everybody in the process. That's why he's going to win, bro. Yeah, I want everybody, though, you know, to process. It feels better, you know. You know, you got one person in the room when I win, and it's not going to feel
Starting point is 00:54:50 You know, he ain't going, I want everybody to win. Y'all hear that? Keep that mentality, man. Yeah, everybody got to win. From rappers, medians, you cook, whatever you do. Man, I want to see you make it. You cook? Nah.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Me neither. Nah. I can't cook shit. My name cook over there. He's sitting down. You can tell he cooked. My girl got on my house before for not cooking. I'm like, I buy all this postmates and you're going to complain about that.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Bro, I'll be like, you want me to kill you? Cook the body? No, I'm just saying, you want me to, you want to get. food poisoning? Yeah, I don't know the fuck. Okay, like that. What you thought I was saying? I thought you wanted to kill you?
Starting point is 00:55:27 Like, well, we need something to eat. We're going to cook your leg or something? I'll put some, they probably don't talk about me about this. But, hey, it is what it is. I was young, shit. I put the cup of noodle in the microwave without putting water in it. I almost blew up the whole damn out. I put the whole cup of noodle in there.
Starting point is 00:55:44 No water. Just put it in there three minutes. It started smoking. The microwave started smoking. Yeah. My little brother did that with a cookie. He put it on for an hour. I almost burnt the house, man.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Yeah. I do certain shit now. I'll be having to catch myself. Like, I'll put a plate in there with foil. I'll be like, oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, no. That's when I have the, like, you, at a certain point in their life, everybody learns to be careful with the microwave.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I'd have some pop tarts, and they were in foil, and I'm in, like, I'm like 13. I put it in the microwave. All of a sudden. Yeah. Tear up the whole microwave. Learn my lesson right there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:19 You ever ate the top? Well, I know you probably had. ate the time ramen, like raw out the package. Hell, man, I made a video about that. Put the seasoning on there and shit. Nah, I used to eat the pasta, what's the name? They used to pop these shit like policies. So what I got, the little, the elbow, the macaroni elbows.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Okay. Pop these shit's like policy. That's nasty, nigga. They taste just like the damn top ramen. That's disgusting. They taste just like the top ramen. I've watched enough, like, Hood cooking videos or prison cooking videos to realize that there's a lot you can do with ramen.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Nick said, ugh, that's that. Nick, that's nice. No, God, I'm looking at the, in my head, I'm thinking about the craft max, the little dry-ass ones. And you just popping them all the fuckers like, shick-tacks. That's disgusting, bro. I can't fucking tag. Yeah, this shit's really hard, right? What the fuck you snacking on that fuck?
Starting point is 00:57:06 Like, goddamn buy some Doritos or something, nigga, fuck. But they think that when you season is some damn Tom ramen packages. That's your fire, though. That's what I'm saying. It's a seasoning, though. Yeah, I guess. I'm going to try that shit. today.
Starting point is 00:57:20 We're fucking around. Niggins. Just be like, boom. Tag me. I'm gonna tag me in the story. I got you. I'm gonna do that shit today. Let me know if I'm tripping.
Starting point is 00:57:28 You should do it too, man. Yeah, I'll wash it down with some flaming hot mountain dew. You ever have flaming hot mountain dew? That's the stupidest shit as well too. Flaming Hot Mountain Dew. It's here. They sent us one can of Flaming Hot Mountain Dew and we all were about to, we all took shots of it thinking that it was going to be gross.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Shit was fire. I want to get a whole case of it. It was fire like that. It was so good. But, you know, white people. taste buds is different. That's true. It's different.
Starting point is 00:57:53 I've been eating that since I was young, so. Your shit fried. I need to have different flavors in order to stimulate my taste buds. I've never had flaming hot. I don't do. That sounds crazy. Honestly, like, it was not that hot, which is why it was good. So what's the, what's the...
Starting point is 00:58:09 I know, what's the... It had that, like, spice of, like... You know the beers where they put all the season in around it? The Mexican guy? I love that shit. I hate that shit. Was it Lucas and shit? That's what I thought it was going.
Starting point is 00:58:20 gonna taste like but then it wasn't that extreme it was actually kind of chill watermelon yeah probably yeah all fruit yeah put some mustard on some watermelon fuck no that was the thing for what kind of shit is that they were talking about it on tic-tog it was like a trend that's disgusting i know people are trying mustard on water that's two foods i'm not really crazy about it though it don't sound too bad now mustard on the water now i'm gonna try that shit oh okay we can make that habit you're not you're not filming me doing that why not you think you're a puke cultural appropriation. I don't even like mustard like mustard like that. Mustard is I like Dijon mustard and honey mustard. Not necessarily, y'all is I could get out with some honey mustard, but just
Starting point is 00:58:58 mustard. I like mayonnaise more than mustard and I like apples more than watermel. So what about an apple covered in the mayo? You should do that for a video. I mean, I'll do it if I got to crack open a new can of helmonds. Let's go. Hey, when if it go viral? You never know. If it'll go viral. What challenge would you call that? The white Adam challenge. The whitest meal in the world. Manage and apples. Yuck.
Starting point is 00:59:26 That's tough. Anything you got coming out that you want to promote, anything that you want to leave as a message to the people out there? I got to go get my wiener tested. You got to make sure I'm clean for this weekend. That's a cold way to segue. You got to get my weiner tested. Tell me to say something.
Starting point is 00:59:45 And he's like, I'm like, wait. Nah, just my YouTube channel, my Instagram, just look out for more content, you know, music as well, of course. You know, anything I want to say is, man, keep grinding. You know, don't let nobody tell you know. 100%. This is a good role model right here. But sure, for sure. Man, I just try to be upright and solid, man.
Starting point is 01:00:07 You know, real, just genuine, solid individuals. That's all I want to be looked at, you know. You got a good head on your shoulders. I think Xavier TV going very far. Yeah, I appreciate it. You should do some No Jumper content with this nigger. Man, I'll come up here to do some. Him and Duno eating apples with mayonnaise on it on your podcast.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Bro, you can come. You do it next week. Win, what day? Wednesday. What time? We go live at 6. 6 p.m.? Yeah, that's not bad.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Oh, that's a movie. It's not bad. Easy. That's not bad. That's not bad. Xavier, I appreciate you, man. Of course, appreciate you for having me, man. On the real.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Yes, sir. No jumper. Shout out to AD2. Like, comment, subscribe. Check us out on YouTube, Patreon, OnlyFans, all that. Like, comment, subscribe, nojumper.com. And check my man's channel out and tap in. Hit the DMs, all that.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Appreciate y'all.

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