No Jumper - The Flakko & Bobbalam Podcast Ep 1 w/ Adam22

Episode Date: December 6, 2022

Debating all of the latest topics in hip hop Text "LFG" to (833) 257-0551 for Early Access to New Merch https://www.instagram.com/poetikflakko https://www.instagram.com/bobbalam/ ------ SEND YOUR ...BRANDS MERCH TO BE REVIEWED NO JUMPER PO Box 11659 Burbank, CA 91510 ----- 00:00 Intro 1:48 - Flakko speaks on his abrupt leaving from the Monday Show, everyoe capitalizing off The Monday show drama 4:55 - Adam says Flakko was ducking Sharp’s fade 5:28 - Adam confronts Flakko’s delusional habit of flexing things he should be embarrassed about, says Flakko doesn’t have b*tches, Flakko disagrees says he has h*es 10:52 - Flakko responds to people saying he is the epitome of what people hate on Akademiks for 13:11 - Who is Bobbalam? Bobbalam on his niche being figuring out who’s going to blow up, why and how 15:33 - Adam speaks on difference between SoundCloud rappers today vs The SoundCloud legends of before + Yeats Channel 5 interview, Bobbalam speaks on rappers not wanting to do interviews as much anymore 18:02 - Tory Lanez trial coming soon, Flakko suggest someone from No Jumper sit in court hearings + Guys tell what they think the verdict will be, Flakko thinks there’s a 10% chance that Meg is telling the truth 24:17 - Adam says he likes that Bobbalam looks like he lifts weights, Bobbalam says he’s thinking of trying Liver King diet 28:30 - Quando Rondo & Youngboy do 14.3k first week, Discussing how much content Youngboy puts out 36:43 - NLE Choppa got a pass for pushing BBL powder, Flakko says there’s a Tik tok weight gaining serum 43:39 - Botting comments, Adam speaks on putting record out with Atlantic Records + Labels setting up releases to look hot by buying views, comments and streams 52:58 - Moneyman accused for fake numbers, Bobbalam suggest Atlantic has their own botting farms 56:38 - Travis Scott Artist Sofaygo flopping, blames fans, Bobbalam says he warned him that he waited too long to drop new project 1:02:04 - Ally Lotti claiming Juicewrld didn’t die from overdose, claims there was a conspiracy, Adam tries to make sense of what she said 1:13:20 - EST Gee’s sister comes at him publicly for not giving her enough money, Adam says his management contacted NJ pissed about post 1:22:00 - T.I footage comes out of him admitting to snitching on his d*ad cousin, putting g*ns on his cousin to get out of case 1:26:51 - Flakko says there’s no difference between T.I and 6ix9ine, they both snitched + Rob and Flakko call TI out for being a hypocrite, calling out Charleston White for snitch behavior 1:31:13 - Crypto billionaires being targeted and taken out 1:40:52 - Gabrielle Union thinks Boosie is projecting, Boosie goes off ----- No Jumper Patreon https://www.patreon.com/nojumper  No Jumper News Discord: https://discord.gg/6xaQP9RS3A FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-19... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat #NoJumper #Live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Go. Yo, we're alive, bro. Damn. Yo, Adam, first off, thank you for being here. I'm happy to be here. I'm Monday nighting it up. You Monday nighting it up? Yo, like what, like for five hours now?
Starting point is 00:00:14 No, I just did like hour and a half, hour 45 with suspect sharp and Gina. And now I'm in here to regulate and try to see what the fuck you, or. Yeah. To see what you guys talking on camera is going to be like. To make sure that he doesn't support. Nazis. Well, that's definitely part of it. And that might even fall into the profanity category as well if you really think about it. But yeah, you know, just basically to, I feel like maybe I want to be up here up close and personal to see what this dynamic is like. So, yeah, definitely
Starting point is 00:00:47 man. And. Talk about Mike, is this on? Yeah. Say something? Hola. Yes. Is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not hearing that I get in mind for some. And then I just did that thing where I, again, like, it's every interview, right, where, like, I forget to introduce who I'm sitting down with. So, we're here today with who? Babelam was good. Yo, Boblam, how did this happen, man? You hit me up.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Yeah, man. You're acting like, you don't even know. Don't you live in Miami? I live in Miami. So you're going to come? But maybe we'll have, like, a, you know, a second home here. For every week? Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Airbnb. That's a big opportunity. I like it. I want to see how you guys get it. you guys get along because this is the whole thing that is going to decide. I don't know if you saw me talking with suspect about this. No, I didn't. Are you going to be able
Starting point is 00:01:34 to challenge Flaco without dehumanizing Flocko? I think it's... Dehumanizing? He felt like he was just becoming a punching bag on the last show. Didn't you start to feel like it was just kind of like too much personal shit or is that not accurate? Let's speak on that. Yeah, man, because like,
Starting point is 00:01:50 yo, I've seen a lot of, bruh. I've seen people doing live streams, two, three, four, four, five, six, seven, line stream, talking about everywhere. And, like, I kind of just, like, kept, like, just, like, kept, like, just, like, kept, like,
Starting point is 00:02:02 just, like, say nothing because, you know, I've taken, like, the approach of, yo, man, like, for the last six months, it's just been consistent storylines. And now I'm trying to, like, transition, man, like, to where, yo, like, it's just my content, right? Like, I don't want to, like,
Starting point is 00:02:17 get into a cycle where people is only paying attention if it's drama, right? So, like, you know, so, you know, right? So, like, I kind of avoided the, you know the like talking about you know like why the money show ended right but yeah but people were doing their press tours right saying fucks lacro clodhorn or type of nonsense yeah that's a good thing though because people are now coming for you not for like the topics and shit yes right
Starting point is 00:02:40 i heard sharp describe the conversation sharp was having with you out there no so pretty much i was hilarious i should have asked him it was hilarious right i was hearing it from in my office and i'm slowly starting to realize like oh i should stop paying attention to what I'm doing on my phone. Yeah. I should be listening to this conversation because this is kind of crazy. He was talking shit but like also at the same time. You were getting preached to.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Before that though, no, no, no, no. He was trying to motivate you. That's what it was to me. I think disappointed was a word that was used repeatedly. Oh God. Nah. I didn't take it that way. Nah, no.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Nah, he's talking about though at like 3 p.m. right? Like when he was here in his office, he's dropping. So essentially like what took place was bro like so I was out of the word like so I was out of the I'm on my live stream, right, streaming, you know, like talking about all type of it. You know, like the YWMELY, you know. And you snitch on yourself. No. So, like, I start getting bombarded by like, like, I'm talking about like, like, 200 messages and
Starting point is 00:03:40 yo, yo, yo, call sharp, call sharp, car sharp, right? I'm like, yo, what's going on? Yo, sharp on large. I'm like, blah, right? So I'm like, bro, like, I'm already like doing my, like, live stream right now. I'm not going to end my live stream to go on like another live stream. at the time I thought it was on IG Live, right? So it was always, oh, my God, you're ducking sharp, you're ducking sharp.
Starting point is 00:03:59 But he wanted you to do the new thing on YouTube where you can add a streamer because that's pretty epic. That, I didn't know about that, though. That's new. You can do that on Discord though already. And IG Live too, but look at, when you go to, like, create a live on YouTube now, one of the options is go live together. Yeah, YouTube is about a takeover Twitch for sure.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I don't know if you have to go live with somebody or if you can, like, be live, go live, Go live with it and end it like on Instagram but that's a sick feature. Yeah. Yeah. So that I know about, right? So they pretty much say, yo, like call Sharp, car, short, car, sharp. I said, bro, I'm not ending my livestream to call Sharp, right? That's not happening.
Starting point is 00:04:37 So then. Like how can you call him on the live? Because here, right? So I thought that Sharp was on IG, right? Because like Sharp usually don't do YouTube license. Just hold the IG live up to the phone. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Maybe. Because that's what, like, you see these streamers talking to rappers. they just hold the phone up to the mic. That's true. But like at that time, bro, like, I already... You were ducking sharp's fate. I was not dark as... I was not ducking and sharp fade, right?
Starting point is 00:05:03 Who do you think would win in a fight between you, too? Sharp. Next question. He just has way more energy. In a fight? He's been smacking bitches around, keeping them in line for all these years. You don't think he can take care of you? Yo. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I don't know anything, officer. Nah. O.G. suicide told me that. that I can beat anybody. Just move along. I can be or beats anymore. Okay. Let me just tell you guys something
Starting point is 00:05:29 that comes from the Adam 22 school of podcasting. Yeah. I think pretty much the most important thing that you can do to make a podcast better is to either rewatch it or take little mental notes or take actual notes of little things that you just feel aren't working.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Like every moment in the episode where you think this wasn't good. This right here wasn't good. And just try to like hone in on those because what's unfortunate sometimes on the No Jumber show and stuff is that we just kind of like do it on camera while it's happening. It's not late enough pre-production because if I were to just say off camera like, yo, AD, I think when you keep doing this meme or like this joke or whatever, like it's getting a little redundant. Off camera, that's fine, I feel like because it's not going to be taken as like an attack or aggressive or whatever. And so I say all that to say my thing. that I would be asking him to do, to not do,
Starting point is 00:06:25 is this weird fake confidence thing that he does where he acts like he's the greatest athlete in the world or he's the best. He's the best at getting bitches in the world. Let me say, because you said that on stage at the fucking no jumper show. You're like, everybody knows I could get the most bitches. Everybody knows that if I was really on my shit,
Starting point is 00:06:43 I get the most bitches. Listen, that's like me saying, everybody knows I could have been in the NBA. Yeah, maybe if I worked my whole life to be in the NBA, could have been in the NBA. But right now, you got no bitches. So don't be out here saying you get all these bitches, but you don't.
Starting point is 00:06:57 That's why I have a hoax. Why the fuck you're going to say you have bitches when you got no bitches? I do got bitches. Zero. I do got bitches. Yeah, that you spend money on and don't fuck. You can't brag about that. I do have hose, though.
Starting point is 00:07:06 You can't brag about it when you have a girl that you spend money on and don't fuck. You got to just keep that shit close to your chest. That's not anything to brag about. It is a brag about, though. No, it's embarrassing. I have a healthy, non-toxic relationship. That's not, listen, that's decent, right? Do you have a hose.
Starting point is 00:07:21 You have not. How does that mean? Sex with her. Yeah, right? You shouldn't be calling attention to it. You shouldn't be saying, oh, look, I'm so good with girls. When every real dude on earth, when they look at your relationship, is like, he's getting fleeced. No offense, but that is what every real person, like, if you go to the QC office and they tell them about your situation, they're going to be like, damn, homie down bad.
Starting point is 00:07:44 So he's fresh. So don't flex it. Don't flex something that you should be. Yes, you did. You sat on stage of the show and you said, I got the most bitches. Bro, you can't do this fake confidence thing. It doesn't work. And it's the same thing with you saying you're an Olympic athlete.
Starting point is 00:07:59 It's like if it's clearly a joke, whatever. But when you say it and act like you are serious, it's cringe worthy. The audience gets it. They're like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Why are you saying this? Isn't that part of like the whole persona though? But I'm saying it feels like a real thing. Like he really thinks this.
Starting point is 00:08:17 But like it's like Kanye right now with being delusional about whatever it is. Isn't that like why people fuck with him? But Kanye did it. He became a billionaire. He became like granted now he's fucking it up. But like Kanye, if Kanye wants to say look at all the bitches out fucked, okay, we get it. We know. You don't get to say that.
Starting point is 00:08:37 No, no, no, no. Right. But wait, but like we've seen a very impactful documentary where Kanye was in death jam office telling people, yo. He's going to change in the subject. No, no, no, no, no, no. He's kind of hit it. Oh, okay. You're saying where he believed himself earlier on.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Right? So, so Kanye was talking about it. people, yo, I'm the greatest artist ever when he was only making beats, right? So I feel like people like look at me and say, yo, bro, like, why do you have so much confidence in what you do? Bro, like, I truly believe, because again, bro, like it was only, again, like, I truly believe, bro, that I, if I put my mind to it, I can be, you know, like one of the, you know, like a top athlete, right?
Starting point is 00:09:10 But that is different than actually doing it. The whole thing, a lot of people have the capacity to be a top athlete. He could probably be, you know, he could be a professional bodybuilder if you wanted to. He could probably, I don't know, like, I could be a fucking professional sprinter. I don't know. I could fucking, I could run marathons. I believe I could run a marathon. I have not ran a marathon, so I don't get to say I could run a marathon or get to
Starting point is 00:09:34 take any of the credit for running a marathon because I haven't done it. You have no bitches. Don't be flexing acting like you got bitches. That's all I'm saying. This is just friendly advice for how to get better at podcasting is don't flex something that you should be embarrassed of. Can you explain what you mean by you have bitches though? If you have a girlfriend, why are you?
Starting point is 00:09:51 He has a girlfriend. and then he spends a lot of money on that he's not fucking. We've already talked about it. And a million times it doesn't need to be talked about it anymore. But it's not something you should be drawing attention to. Of course, right? So he's talking about, no, listen, no, listen. I got a laugh from Riley on that one.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Now listen, here, right? So, like, he's talking about the live show. And I believe a comment was made about like, oh. I thought we weren't supposed to shit on it. No, no, not, not, not. Right? So, like, he's talking about the live show. You just got to be moderate with it, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:15 Okay, okay. Right? And I think a comment was made from a hater about how, like, you get no holes. And I said, bro, listen, like, if I truly wanted to get bitches, I could get, like, more hoax than all of y'all. And I believe that was a statement. Why, though? Like, what attributes do you have that you think that would get you? Charming.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Are you a high value man? Yeah, look, look, look, I'm charming, I'm funny, I'm attractive, right? But where's the money? Again, again. Let's go band for band right now. No, no, good on YouTube. Right? Again, like.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Every time a rapper does. Yo, listen. Yo, bro. Like, demonetized. Yo, speak on that, right? Because now people are saying that, like, I'm the epitome of what they are, I guess, like, accusing other bigger guys up. You are the thing that people hate on academics for.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I don't think so, man. You feel me? For real. Like, all the shit that they say about, academics feeds into the beef and academic. Like, you actually are. And you don't even deny it. Because when you left the live stream on Friday,
Starting point is 00:11:17 you said, ooh, time to go make 10 more videos about how little. about how Takeoff's killer got arrested Well, it was about like Low Can Fit because I'm dedicated to You know, like I just like the kid Right, so right? I mean, I'm not hitting on you
Starting point is 00:11:30 Because if there's an audience Then fucking do it But I'm just saying it is pretty Transparent. We all know that Flacco is literally Like the ambulance chaser of the crew Ambulance Chaser of the crew? Ambulance!
Starting point is 00:11:42 Here, right? Okay, right, look. So like, better question is this right? You just move to Chicago and just show up on scene Bro. After the body's drop. Bro, if I go to go to Chicago, yo, they will legit kill me.
Starting point is 00:11:50 me on spot. No, no, no. I'm gonna make sure Shubbox baby takes good care of you. Shoob's baby? Yeah, he's gonna protect you. Nah, but like, I dead ass wanted to go
Starting point is 00:11:58 like to the whole thing that Van Lathan had going on where like they got like a pastor that's on like the roof and shit. And like, what they do? They had a pastor on the roof? So there's a roof on O Block
Starting point is 00:12:07 where like you can like just like just go there and shit and just like sleep overnight and in a tent and on a roof, right? Do you have to pay to do this? No, free. So like, and he does that to bring awareness
Starting point is 00:12:17 to like the violence and shit like that. Why would I want to sleep on a, in a tent on the roof of Oblock. Someone's gonna push you off the edge. And even like, it's not like you're really like interacting with the community in any way on the roof. Yeah, yeah. While sleeping.
Starting point is 00:12:31 You at least gotta like sell drugs or some shit there. Or just be down there. It's like, lurk around. Nah, but look, but like Van Lathen sold the fuck out that shit though. He did? Wow. I don't know. Nah, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:41 It was the first time I heard of that. Nah, like he made that shit sounds good, right? But back to this conference thing though. All right. No. Yo, bro, he's been hitting me with that all day. Nothing even comes out of this shit Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:12:52 It's like empty but still Yeah That's a microaggression Yes But I'm trying to tone down his confidence With the salt With the bug of salt You're like a little dog
Starting point is 00:13:02 They just sent us more of those The new one is OD Anyway I feel like we got to talk more about Babelam Yeah Instead of you just digging yourself deeper on this confidence thing
Starting point is 00:13:10 Who's Babelam? Who is Babelam And is Babelam and is Babelam And is Babelam or Babelam? Babelam I don't know why People call me Baba Blam People call me Babelang.
Starting point is 00:13:20 You were calling me the wrong shit and you were the first person to talk to me about this show. I was like, damn. He don't even know my name. Realistically, how many videos have you seen in mine? I'll be real.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I knew this. 50. No, look. No. Something small. Nah, look. A lot. A lot.
Starting point is 00:13:39 A good amount. Nah, so once me and Remo start talking more because I kind of like knew about you, you know, like through like Housewood, I think, right? And then once me and Remo start talking about. Yeah, right. I just started like diving deeper into like your entire catalog, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:54 But what do you consider your niche as a YouTuber now? Because that's like when you're a small YouTuber like you guys, you kind of need, well, that sounds like a disc. Okay, his cog is hanging down right now. But you're really putting it out. When you're like coming up and you're making like hip hop content, you know, you got to figure out what your niche is, you know. Like are you going to be Lail Hanson and do some gym workout videos dressed as XXXX and Tosio? I like to think.
Starting point is 00:14:19 I'm the opposite of what you were discussing with the ambulance shit. I like to stay away from that because obviously I'm not a gangbanger. I like to talk about like I like to call or not even call because my stream chat tells me. But like who is going to blow up? And I like to just watch that whole thing. Why are they blowing up? Like Yead and Sofago and whatever. All those people.
Starting point is 00:14:42 But you should make videos where you literally like bet money on certain rappers. Like I've thought about a game. gambling site where you do like first week sales or shit like that but just treat it like you're like a crypto investor where you're trying to like call and and if you think that like well everybody's all into so fago and i don't i think the so fago balloon is about to pop it's not going to happen like that's a video yeah right and i've seen i've seen videos where people like there's a it's ticoters they'll say if rappers were a stock i'd invest in blah blah blah that's but like personally i don't think that it's captivating for like an eight minute video.
Starting point is 00:15:23 You can do a TikTok video and it's like yeah, cool. So Fago, he has cool songs, this and this. But like what else do you say? Like he's signed to Travis Scott and like that doesn't go on for eight minutes. Yeah, that's the problem with all the SoundCloud rappers is that sometimes their music is okay but there's just nothing else to talk about. And a lot of them suck during interviews and shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Which is not like Trippy Red and 6-9 and Juice World and X. all the They were also talented. All the dudes before, I mean, Lill Pump might not have been a great interview at that time, but the vlogs were hilarious.
Starting point is 00:15:55 You know, like all those dudes were super entertaining. The brand was unique still. Now it's regurgitated. Yeats, Channel 5 interview, might have been an all-time low for the Channel 5 channel.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I didn't watch the whole thing. I only watched the little part in the full episode. Like, like, like, 34 bowls or whatever it was. I was like, no, he,
Starting point is 00:16:15 I feel like Yit doesn't sound like he plans shit, but he, does. Like he says outlandish things that he knows are going to go viral. Yeah. No, like I've seen Yeat like talk like like like probably once, right, where he was talking about kind of like the like how like how like the old heads and shit but don't be saying shit. Right. So he's actually like a, I guess like a deep thinker or a deep diver man, but he purposely, I guess, you know, like don't say shit for a reason.
Starting point is 00:16:42 So you talked about this with Abun Preach. One of them came on your interview. where the rappers it's almost bad to talk too much because it just gives fans more ammo or haters more ammo to hate you or like create a story that's why rappers don't do interviews anymore well it's not really that advantageous to them right
Starting point is 00:17:04 like if you're Kendrick Lamar you put out an album and nobody has heard from you in a long time it's going to do whatever it's going to do I don't think doing an interview makes it sell more and I don't think and I think maybe doing an interview before it makes it sell less like a lot of times Sometimes people basically are listening to your album because they just want to know what the fuck is going on from you and they haven't heard from you.
Starting point is 00:17:24 In Kendr's case, they barely heard from you in four or five years. So it's like when he drops that project, it's like it doesn't need an interview. That is the interview. Yeah. Like the lyrics, like his life for the past three years. Jay-Z was always the king of that. His fucking interviews would always just have bombshells in it. And then his like he would drop shit in the interviews that wouldn't work in the music.
Starting point is 00:17:42 But then when you drop an album, it's like the interview. He's talking shit about people. He's letting you in on drama, gossip, whatever. it's like hold that shit in and let it out when it's monetized. Tori Lane showed us that when he put out that fucking letter to Megan album. And now he's out, right? He's out of a house arrest. So I think he's going to get off free.
Starting point is 00:18:01 He's chilling. We're waiting for the trial. How long is it told the trial? I'm going to be watching. I'll ambulance chase for that. I'll go wait outside the courtroom. No, but I think we can send somebody inside the courtroom, though, right? Like to watch trial?
Starting point is 00:18:12 Like, it should be public. Who we sending Gina? I mean, her, me, you know, you right? If you're glad that would be lit. Come on, Let's go. Come on, let's do it, man. He's in Miami.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Yeah. Oh, it's going to be there. It's not going to be, wait. No, no, no. No, no. Here, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, here. You feel?
Starting point is 00:18:28 No, but, like, you're saying, yeah. Yeah, court hearing. Yeah, yeah, but, like, you say he's going to get off Scotts Street. I'll be real. I probably thought the same thing until I learned that the best friend testify, right? She's the key witness now. Kelsey's going to talk. But, like, I thought Kelsey was fuck Megan Stein.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Like, like, I thought she was pro. yo that bitch is lying but now she's not pro it no more but you remember did you see that I interviewed Jonathan Wright who was basically the the hairstylist dude who was there when it happened and when I asked him about it he just goes Adam you know that I wasn't there
Starting point is 00:18:58 and I and for some reason I lost my confidence that that was it because I had just known that he was there for a long time and but in my head when he said that I'm like oh fuck am I tripping was it another dude am I fucking bugging so I just let him get away with it then afterwards I go and I Google it
Starting point is 00:19:14 And I'm like, this motherfucker just gaslit me on the podcast. He's probably going to get called to witness too. Who knows? Nah. But my whole thing is where I'm kind of like terrified for Tori because, you know, like all the other evidence. How much is he facing 50 years? 30 years? 30 years.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Oh my God. Yo. If Tori Lane gets off though, like realistically, though, like if he gets off, does that do anything for him? I feel like he'd be dropping more of music if he was, if he actually felt like he was about to go to jail. Of course it does things for him. He's going to be able to travel freely. He's going to be exonerated to a large percentage of the people out there. There's still going to be some people.
Starting point is 00:19:53 But it doesn't even matter because this is the whole thing. Whatever comes out in court is going to fundamentally change the way that we think about this situation so much. There has to be tons of evidence that we don't know about yet. So if he is exonerated, we're going to be way more convinced that he's exonerated. And if he gets fucking 20 years, we're going to be way more convinced. that he deserves 20 years and that he actually shot her, I think that the situation is pretty unlikely
Starting point is 00:20:20 that it's an OJ type trial where we watch it, we think, oh, for sure he is guilty as fuck, and then he is found to be not guilty. That is pretty unlikely. I would say that probably whatever we see in court is going to, we're going to be just like the jurors. We're going to know all this information,
Starting point is 00:20:37 and I, for one, I'm very much looking forward to it. I think that Megan is the one who has the highest, chance of her career changing. Because if he's let off free, then everyone's going to be like, oh, she was lying the whole time. Whereas now you can't really tell.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Okay, but if Megan, worst case scenario for Megan is that she looks like a liar. Worst case for, worst case scenario for Tori is going to jail for like multiple decades. And then his career actually is over, over. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Yeah. That's true. I feel like if Megan looks like a liar, the media is still going to be able to spin it like she's the victim in all this. Also, I would like to draw attention to the fact that this is kind of a bad podcast and thing we're doing. We're talking about Meg and Tori without having any kind of update on Meg and Tori.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Oh, we just did though, right? Get into Kanye then. What's the update? It's now trial and then. Oh, just the date of it? Yeah. Oh, that she's, okay, you're right. Because of being called now, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:21:35 As a prime witness, right? But here's the thing, though, Gretaudence and whole Tori thing, man, I truly believe, though, like right now, like people who are on Team Tori, they've already, like, I say, yo, listen, like, like, dude's innocent and shit can convince them he's guilty. Folks who believe Meg is, like, always going to say, oh, you know, like Kelsey came to trial and made sure Mac, right? Like, there's always going to be a reason as to why, yo, I believe Tori or I believe Mac. So even if Tori, like, does beat, you know, like, does beat it, bro, like, just going
Starting point is 00:22:05 be, you know, people still calling him a woman beater, you know. All right. Here's the thing. I don't think anybody should be claiming to be 100% certain that either option is going to happen. So my question to each of you is, what do you think the most likely verdict is and what is your percentage confidence? Because I'm going to say that I think that there is an 80% chance that he shot her. I'm just like I still, I'm still open to the idea that it didn't happen. But if I had to guess, I'm going to say like an 80% chance that he's found guilty.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I think he discharged a firearm. But I don't know about at her. Like he could have shot the ground like that. one theory and then she thinks that that's at her. That does make it a lot more complicated because those are all possibilities. Yeah, I think it's 80% or maybe 90 that he shot something. Shit, listen, man. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:22:57 I'm on the opposite side of that spectrum though, right? Oh my God. I'm somebody who, listen, man. You like men and you hate women. Sometimes. He gets hosed, but the hos are men. You feel me? He hypothetically could get hosed.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Come on. You can pick up Tori. He's like after side, though. He's already down there. Speak on my hypothetical hose. Nah, right now. But Tori, right, again. So here's why I truly believe that Tori Lins didn't shoot her.
Starting point is 00:23:24 So, Megan... Where'd the glass come from? Give us the quote real... Give us your number and your percentage real quick so we can move on the next topic because this shit is boring. Yeah. Yeah, I don't really like the Tori Megan case.
Starting point is 00:23:36 It's just... Unless we have a big update, it's all. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, so for me it's probably like 10%, you know... That she's telling the truth? And that's if that bitch kind of lie, you feel me, right? You know, yeah, right, but you feel I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:48 You know, but just from... 10% is amazing. Right. Bro, listen, like, we know that, like, she had an intense fight with the girl Kelsey before shots was fired. You feel what I mean? And Kelsey had gun of residue on her, right? So, like, if we just, you know, just assume,
Starting point is 00:24:03 just based on those stories, bro, like, you know, it's pretty reasonable to figure out, okay. So you think Kelsey shot? Maybe Kelsey shot her and Torrey Lane's, try to get it right. Or maybe, yo, they shot and no bullets hitter, you feel me? So, you know, I guess, you know. I want to throw something out there.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Yeah. I like that Bob-O-Lam looks like he lifts weights. Because he walked in here. He wasn't wearing his hoodie like he's wearing right now. And I saw that he had a little bit of definition in the bicep. He was pretty lean. He's clearly, you know, going out of his way to keep a slim figure. I like that.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So props to you for trying to stay in shape and looking pretty solid, my guy. Yo, he's always in the gym, though. And looking natural, too. So, you know, like, I'm not Liver King out here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like, I like that. We got a couple of natural bodybuilders in the office. I'm still kind of waiting to fully, like, reveal this new physique I'm working on.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I've thought about trying the Liver King diet. Have you? Steroids? Well, yeah. But, no, the actual just, I tried eating only organs and animal and fruit. And, bro, I was, like, I couldn't even stay awake. It was ridiculous. The moment, the things I ate with him were some of the grossest tasting things.
Starting point is 00:25:14 You ate a nut, right? I ate testicles, bone marrow, and then liver. Bone marrow is good when you cook it. Yeah, in a restaurant, it's amazing. But when you eat it just plain, it is some of the most disgusting shit. Flacco, you want steroids? Nah, man. Would you ever take steroids?
Starting point is 00:25:31 I'll be real. Like, you'll probably have to, like, guarantee me, like, results, right? If I take steroids, I thought you were the world's greatest. You'll get results. Right? Oh, you'll get results. You're not going to like everything else surrounding it, but you'll get some results.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah, your balls might, like, go inside your body. You're going to get back in me. Yeah. I heard that crisp and watch it, though, right? Like, where you take it, like, your dick shrink up and you just get, like, I think your dick actually gets bigger. But your dog gets bigger and your balls get smaller. And for me, personally, the time I did steroids, it made me want to fuck like an animal.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Why would you do it? The most hardcore sex drive I've ever had in my life. I was jerking off five times a day. Yeah. It was insane. Wow. were you at a point in life where you were taking steroids? Real quick.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Yeah. I was 22 and I had, I got fat as fuck because I had a broken leg. Oh, shit. But then I started lifting weights and I got like really strong. And I got up to like 285. I'm young. I'm benching like 225. I'm like starting to get pretty fucking strong, but I'm fat.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And I had a homie who was like put on to like gym culture and he was basically like, dude, I'm going to get you these steroids. You're going to take trend and test. at the same time and then you're also as your first cycle I had been working out for like six months and when I look back on this now it's insane I was on 10 and Trests or trend
Starting point is 00:26:49 and test that I ordered from China and then also I was taking clenbuterol and T3 which is like a thyroid hormone so basically I was building muscle and burning fat at like the craziest fucking level ever I did this for three months and I lost like 50 pounds
Starting point is 00:27:05 and like totally kept all my strength and muscle then I got off the steroids and They went away, right? It went away gradually. But I also just kind of stopped going to the gym. You already hit peak. Yeah, but like, what else do you do? I like realize like how fleeting the gains from the steroids were.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And then I just kind of like stopped working out, which obviously is like the worst thing you can do. It is a drug. You're not going to hold on to any of it. Yeah, dude. But it was crazy. I was, I was mad. I was fucking like an animal. It was, it was weird.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah. I wouldn't do it again. But can't you fuck up how you are like having kids later on? Like your fertility. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I wouldn't do it. And that's even one thing when they talk about the liver king. They're like, oh, well, he's had kids.
Starting point is 00:27:45 So, like. He didn't take steroids. It's like, those kids are like seven. They're like grown as fuck. Like, what are you talking about? Like, the list of shit he was taking was ridiculous. Like more than you just said. Yeah, way worse.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Like every month. It was like 15 different steroids. Oh, yeah. Ridiculous. Insane. Yeah. I don't know how the hell he sat on that couch and lied to me. But all right, hit us with a topic, fucker.
Starting point is 00:28:06 What do you want to actually do on this fucking show? Go ahead. Talk about your. your Nazi addiction. And skip these Kanye. There's too much Kanye talk.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Let's talk about fucking Cuondo Rondo and NBA young boy. All right. Well, well,
Starting point is 00:28:19 what do you sell? Ah. What do they sell? They're selling chocolate. Nah, so I think Adam was supposed to
Starting point is 00:28:25 be the a mod today, right? So, like, so yeah, there's my fucking topic.
Starting point is 00:28:30 You're the head mod in the discourse, sir. Do you think 14.3 in the first week is a good
Starting point is 00:28:35 number for Cuondo and NBA Young Boy, full disclosure, and I feel a piece of shit. I should have listened to the album because I heard that they were dissing O Block on it over and over,
Starting point is 00:28:43 and I want to see what's going on. So 14.3K for Quana Rondo is fantastic. 14.3K for a collab album for a young boy, here's my thing. So we've seen Young Boy other numbers when it comes to collab albums, right? He did about like 29, 30 with the baby, right? So, you know, like he don't have a history, you know, of doing, I guess, like, huge numbers with the collab albums. And then once you drop like five or six albums so far this year, the seventh one with Quano Rondo, I don't think most people will be checking for it, right? That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:29:17 He's really floated the market and not put any marketing or promotion into any of these, you know? Yo, it's insane, man. It's regurgitated. The same thing, throwing it up on a mic. And that's always been my thing with the young boy is I like him. And when I listen to a project, I'll get real into, like, the first few songs normally. Or there'll be like some deep cuts that I end up figuring out a popular or whatever. But for me, he's an artist where if it's 20 songs on a project, that's a lot.
Starting point is 00:29:41 By the 20th song, it gets a little redundant for me. So it's like I love certain young boy projects. And then I just kind of don't even listen to the next one because sometimes it drops like three weeks later. He's like a YouTuber, but in the music industry. It's like a daily upload vlog. And that's not always a good thing because I've watched some of his music videos where he's just blatantly. Well, he's, you know, on probation shit, but he's just like standing by his car, standing by the laundry machine. And I'm just like, this is just boring, dude.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I don't know. He's like Jake Paul back in the day. Yo, that's the only it is. Nah, bro. Like, they ran that shit up, though, you feel me? Right? Nah, but currently, again, but like, here's why I think that 14.3K, yes, technically is a flop since young boy was involved. But, you know, like, it's not an egregious flop, right?
Starting point is 00:30:25 Like, for example, when duty low, it comes on Twitter and says, man, bro, I can out sell these folks. Come on, bro. Like, you are low dirt's flunky. Shout out duty low. That's the homie, but, no, you ain't sold. 14k, sorry. Did Young Boy post it? Because I feel like that's really important when you talk about a flop.
Starting point is 00:30:41 No, he was angry as fuck about it even being released. Yeah. Okay, so I don't think it's a flop thing because it's basically just a Cuando Rondo project that has Young Boy features that he didn't even promote. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, like, that's pretty good. Whereas Young Boy, if he promoted it, he probably would have gotten the 30K,
Starting point is 00:30:56 which he did with Rich the Kid and then DaBaby. Actually, really, probably the best promotion for this project was how angry Young Boy was about it coming out because I didn't even know about it until Youngboy His fans are dick eaters, though, so they will literally not listen to the project just so that they can potentially meet him one day or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, right, but again, man.
Starting point is 00:31:18 They're not going to support something that he's getting angry about. Yeah, but I feel like there's such... Listen to it if they're a diehard fan, right? Yeah, no, I see that point, but... Yeah, but I feel like there's such dick riders, though, like, they would just listen to it, right? Because they're just so freaking obsessed with him, right? But also, too, bro, like, once your name is attached to something,
Starting point is 00:31:34 Like, for example, Drake, if Drake was anti-in album dropping and Quana Ronald drops an album with Drake, I don't think that album doing, let's say, 100K, I don't think Drake can say, yo, listen, man, I wasn't for it, you know, so, like, if that shit does a hundred K, K is not a flop. It's definitely a flop, right? If your name is attached to, you got songs on it, and that shit still sells 14K, that shit, you know, it kind of tells me, man, like, maybe, like, the young boy, I guess, aura is a flop. real, right? Like, where people would say, yo, this dude here, he's like a top three rapper right now. No, right? Because, like, we've seen young boy numbers, bro. Like, he's doing 20K, 30K.
Starting point is 00:32:13 His highest, I believe, was like, what, $109,000, right? So, this right here is just a trend of, yo, like, his numbers aren't really, I guess, like, up to part when it comes to who we consider top three, top five. But he just spams shit
Starting point is 00:32:28 to where we just think, okay, he's doing two billion streams. Yeah, no, duh. He dropped like seven albums, right? So, you know, so, you know, So, you know, so, like, just based off of 14.3,000 and his name being attached to it, it, you know, had to be a flop, man. I never thought he was good. Why? Quando?
Starting point is 00:32:45 NBA Young Boy. He's not good? You're talking about, like, the cosign. Is it, like, is it worth anything anymore? I feel like, again, you said it. He just dropped so many songs that, of course, you're going to get hell of streams. He's on, like, the top stream list for the past year. Isn't this the whole thing with NBA Young Boy is that when we look at it?
Starting point is 00:33:04 no cap's statements about him that no cap basically said i was signing you for all these fucking years you damn there never posted me you did no fucking music with me you fucking everything about it just didn't really i mean young boy didn't really do a lot for no cap that made him look like he was really trying to see him win like that to me is kind of i mean he's put quondro out there a lot more for sure especially like years ago but it feels like now i don't know like why would young boy be so upset about this album coming out it just seems like it seems like anytime anything happens for one of his artists or like he's not really like reciprocating that like he doesn't he doesn't he's got like uh like he wants to be the top dog doesn't it kind of feel like that
Starting point is 00:33:44 like he kind of yeah whenever whenever that doesn't appear to be the dynamic that he sort of like gets uncomfortable yeah no i agree he's a Mormon now though right so he's a woman uh and yeah right because like in like he's i'm googling right like in i think fact check no right no so yeah right because he had like the Mormons so I heard he's a flat earther too yeah bro he's a real interesting dude right now but I heard he's a Mormon now so like he had like the Mormons in his crib preaching and like he stated yo like one of the main reasons why I didn't want that album to come out is because yo I got the Mormons that in my house you know like we're preaching we're studying you know like we're going through the like
Starting point is 00:34:26 entire motion that and you know like he's essentially saying bro I've gone to a point where, man, like, I'm just trying to change my life, right? So where, yo, like, I'm sitting down and talking to these folks every day, looking them in the eyes and telling them I'm changing. Here's the quote. You had to tell, Kwondo, don't nobody care as long as they make a dollar off you. I've begged for that tape to not be released. And Kondo respected my wishes.
Starting point is 00:34:50 My wishes. I talk to missionaries every day inside my home who probably going to ask me about that tape. That shit not sitting on top of my heart right. But just pay attention to what those people promote. They are evil and don't give a fuck about us. I see why they didn't post my stop the violence message. And then because this is, I'm seeing a thing on Reddit where basically something, the Reddit post is title, why be mentioned missionaries on that new song and had a verse from his book of Mormon in high haters?
Starting point is 00:35:16 He's really becoming a Mormon in Utah. Bro has these dudes in his house. And then it has like this verse from the book of Mormon that was also in the song. And then, yeah, because like Utah is like insanely high percentage. So yeah, him saying the missionary has been inside his house. But you think that the thing that he doesn't want the missionary. to see, like, now that he has this, like, watchful eye on him is just him, like, dissing Dirk and Vaughn?
Starting point is 00:35:38 Well, that, and, like, he's truly trying to change. Listen, like, and he put out a freaking, like, an ad and shit talking about, yo, I need a second woman, right? So, like, he's legit. Oh, because they can't. Yeah. Yeah, bro. Bro, he's, no, he's in, basically.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I'm telling you, man. Yeah, polygamous. I think, um, I don't want to see young boy turn into an elite chapa. No, I think he's trying to Kanye 2.0. Like, with a religious. He's going to do like Mormon is king or some shit. But let's be real. Like young boy is very, very removed from the gangster shit that he grew up doing.
Starting point is 00:36:11 So it's like at a certain point, do you kind of grow up and decide you want to stop rapping about gangster shit? Because, I mean, I'm bored of it. You know, like there's a reason why I'm not super excited to click on the project. Now, does that mean that he's going to go into, you know, NLEC choppa vaccine misinformation territory? I don't know. Right. If I see young boy like hugging. freezing shit in his boxes with a dick print now talking about how like
Starting point is 00:36:36 with a dick print the the the bbl powder or whatever you should take that yo it's kind of weird too like how we just all kind of just like forgot about the bbl powder he had glossed over that it kind of like forgiving him for that right because it's like bro like that's like a clear blatant scat scan like nobody's gonna make fun of him because he obviously didn't make too much money from it if it was like a blatant nfts scam then yeah yeah but him selling bbL powder really is like him selling an NFT scam. Because it's just literally like a product that probably does nothing.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Yeah. And you're giving them money. And that's pretty much the same result. It probably increases like blood flow. And then you can technically say that that goes to your ass and that increases the size or something. I mean, there's literally nothing you can do. There's nothing you can take to redistribute fat in your own body.
Starting point is 00:37:24 They've even done, they've done studies where they'll have a set of people who do like leg press on both legs. And then a set of people who only do like leg press on both legs. Yeah. And then a set of people who only do. leg press with one leg and then everything else is equal in terms of calories and everything. And there's like a tiny percentage that you will lose fat in the one leg that you're doing the leg press with.
Starting point is 00:37:44 But for the most part, it's like 99%. Doesn't matter like what you're doing. Your fat is lost throughout your body evenly. I knew that. I knew that. Yeah. But they obviously gain muscle in one leg more, correct? Muscle for sure.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yeah, yeah. Okay. Nah, but like this is one thing called a petamie. You heard of it? A pedophile? No, epitome. Epitome? Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:38:05 So, like, it's like a TikTok like serum, right? That they sell at, like, like, like, like, they actually like sell it on like Amazon and it's like a Typod. Yeah, so like it just makes you gain weight and like real sleepy as fuck, right? So I guess like that's like that right there is the closest shit to a quote-a-b-l pill. That's the opposite of what I want. Yeah. I don't want to fucking sleep. I need to sleep on my own.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Sleepin's easy. So it's a pet, but like does it make you? gain muscle weight or like uh it's like is you get quote unquote thick the cool thing to do though would be to actually take the nLA chop a bBL powder and just like actually have a real chemist like breakdown what is in it more plates more dates i feel like it's going to be like what is in the gas station sex pills oh i'm taking those those are those are whack yeah what you taking it? Me and my boy used to go out and we'll
Starting point is 00:39:04 take those. Not together. Are they lit? You felt the effect? Like my jugular vein just started pumping and I got all like just jittery, don't do it. Huge headache, especially if you drink. It's just like it just makes your blood flow
Starting point is 00:39:20 really fast. I took a gas station one time, but it was like 5 p.m. and I was like out riding with the guys and like I don't even know if I hung out with a girl that night. I just took it to see see what happened and then I forgot about it. So I don't think that was a very good sample. So we didn't do anything?
Starting point is 00:39:34 Not that I noticed. But realistically, like, why would I get a boner when I'm out riding my bike with the homies? Probably wouldn't get a boner anyway, right? Right, right. Even if it was really good at giving you a boner, it probably wouldn't in that environment. I've taken, like, liquid Viagra, and that shit is crazy. I assume you do it.
Starting point is 00:39:50 No, I never did it. You never know Viagra? No. I'm scared. Wait, wait, pause. Like, what's liquid like Viagra? It's just like some drops? Probably Viagra.
Starting point is 00:39:59 liquid form. You drink it or put it in on your penis like shit. Rub it in. No, you drink it. You drink it. You drink it. You lotion. Imagine how powerful it would have to be to go through your dick.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Like a cream. You actually get a needle and then you just put it in your hole. I shouldn't even mention this, but that's one thing I'm curious about because I've heard about it on enough podcast is the Roman wipes that make you last longer. You like wipe your dick with it. Yeah, impulsive is. Bro, I'm not going to lie. I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Like, what does that shit like? I think it just numbs your dick. Somebody send me something. I want to try it. You should do it, but don't. It sounds like a cool idea. I think you have to do it like a certain amount of time before or else it'll like get inside. I want to do it and then just beat off in my back house.
Starting point is 00:40:46 You won't even feel anything. But I just want to see how different it feels. Because there's two options that that shit actually works or it doesn't work. And I can see both being real options. I think it for sure works. Numbing it. Yeah, because there's got to be all kinds of. legal over-the-counter shit that just numbs shit.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could probably get some shit from CVS right now. You could do like Bert's Bees or some shit. Like that. The fuck is that? Burst Bees is the chapstick that has like the, um... You know how high school people would bees? They put on their eyelids and you're like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I want to know how girls feel having Roman wipe sauce all over your dick going in and out of a girl. Isn't that kind of like invasive? Like, how do we know this shit is safe for her vagina? Oh. Every time you finger a girl, you have, of bacteria on your fingers. Yo.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I'm sure they're used to like those precautions. One thing I regret in my life is not washing my hands more and in particular after sexual acts. Yeah. Because that's fucking gross. I've cut like jalapinos and went at it and then and then she was like, yo, did you cut some peppers or something? And then we had to stop because it was just, she was painful.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I remember I was like 31 and I hung out with this porn star, right? This like hot ass like a little 21 year old chick. And I'm like hanging out of there. She's just laying on my bed. reading her phone and I just go start eating her ass and then she and then I go to start fingering her and I had just been rolling a blunt and she goes can you go wash your hands you're just rolling a blunt I'm like oh okay and while I'm washing my hands I'm just thinking myself like I'm 31 I'm smoking weed for most of my life and that's the first time a chick ever told me why she's got a great point you're
Starting point is 00:42:23 fucking breaking it up with your fingers you're getting this green gross crap like anyone who fucking rolls blunts knows what I'm talking about your fingers get disgusting it's like really hard to get that shit off your fingers I guess I get the resin her not wanting that on her vagina is more than reasonable but she was a porn star so she she like knows about her vaginal health oh yeah I like making sure her chemistry was right yeah or maybe she got burnt before but they get like yeast infection don't don't let a trimmer finger you yeah a trimmer you guys don't know but that's a guy trims the weed it gets really good oh I thought you're talking about like a nose
Starting point is 00:42:55 trimmer but you put it in her vagina see that's why I can't be on this body because you guys have the life experience. I say a trimmer and you think I'm talking about a nose trimmer. No, I use a trimmer. A weed trimber. It's just, you know. You guys should go, like, work on a farm for a month, get some life experience. You got, like, how old are you?
Starting point is 00:43:15 39. You're 39. Now? Yeah. What do you expect? How old are you? Yes. I'm 22, foo.
Starting point is 00:43:22 I don't know. 24. You're 24 years old. Yeah. And you're... So is Mr. Beast. Yo, bro, Mr. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Is he botting his videos, though? Is he signed Atlantic Records? Bro, listen, Mr. Bees is bodying me in all fashion. Not bodying, boughting. Oh, body, bro. Let's be going on freaking. Okay. Yeah, explain this to the people.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Yeah, so, bring it down, man. All right, so this guy named Bryce on Twitter, soon after Don Tolliver dropped a music video, found, went through the, sorted the comments on the music video on YouTube, and it was all emojis, and that's a common act by people who buy comments and likes and views, because an emoji can kind of apply to anything, whereas if you buy comments and they're all like random, like, hey, you're, I don't know, this image is crazy. It's pretty easy to tell the difference between real comments and fake comments, you know, if you actually know what you're looking at.
Starting point is 00:44:21 So then soon after you exposed it, and by the way, this music video got substantial amount more of views than. in like his previous videos in the first day or so. His account got terminated for like some random reason. Whose? The original guy Bryce who exposed the whole thing
Starting point is 00:44:40 on Twitter. And so then that just blew up the whole story even more. And then everybody was talking about it. Then they exposed like Uzi. And it's not just like Uzi or Don Tolliver. It's the label Atlantic. Actually every label does it.
Starting point is 00:44:54 They say like 30% of all streams are fake. Right. But we're talking about YouTube, right? Is them seeing like comments Because there's no comments on Spotify and shit So people at first are looking at the number of comments and everything Because okay, I'll say this,
Starting point is 00:45:09 We put out a no jumper record with Atlantic Records at one point And I'm a YouTuber and I've fucking put out You know, even back then, this is like 2017 or whatever Even back then I had been putting out YouTube videos for like five years at that point. So I'm extremely used to seeing what the views you count coming in looks like and I'm extremely used to seeing what's normal I'm extremely used to see in the comments
Starting point is 00:45:33 and when we put that fucking record out on the Jumper channel I just remember seeing the spike in views and the comments and just being like no there's no one was this like TayK one yeah it was just like and listen take A blog boy is super popular at the time but the speed at which those views came in
Starting point is 00:45:49 and the comments came in I just remember looking at it and just thinking like no this is this is fake this is like the fucking the label has some kind of superpower where they make sure that this shit is going to look extremely impressive and that it's going to get picked up in the algorithm.
Starting point is 00:46:06 So I think it's crazy that just now, because that was me looking at my own channel and being able to see this, and I knew, now you've got people who are actually paying attention to artists and they're seeing it and the labels are just having to deal with the fact of like, oh shit, we're like getting caught over and over and over
Starting point is 00:46:21 for doing this shit that they'd been doing. Right. Okay, so you mentioned that it boosts, the algorithm because it gets a lot of views in watchtime and ultimately like engagement and watch time is what boosts it right but when you bought views and we were going to expose
Starting point is 00:46:37 we'll get that later but doesn't that hurt the algorithm because it recommends to other bots or people who have similar interest to the bots because they have weird activity listen the label knows what the fuck they're doing and they wouldn't be doing it if it
Starting point is 00:46:53 didn't benefit the bottom line you know and in particular what I think the labels do is that they do this on your first project or they do this to get it to a certain level and then at a certain point they just stop contributing in that way because it's just it's not really like cost effective
Starting point is 00:47:09 you know it's just they wane off it just helps you get the look like I've sat there in label meetings with fucking label dudes and had them tell me hey you know this artist who has this pop and song like a legendary song that you guys are like oh that's one of the most hot street organic hits in recent memory in the last five years
Starting point is 00:47:26 dude in a label tell me I bought plays for that song in the beginning to make it look hot to convince people that it was hot so that we could get it on playlist and so that we could convince the fans that it was hot before it was hot. But they 100% do this.
Starting point is 00:47:42 So what the fans are calling out here it's just them having access to more information and just sort of like figuring out the game. Right. And I think they do that for like first week sales has become a huge marketing campaign for every artist. so now why not bought Hella streams
Starting point is 00:47:59 and then just say oh we sold you know 100k and then it makes you look like oh shit he's really a top dog rap that's why I feel like a lot of times when we're sitting here having these conversations about first week sales and stuff I just feel like I'm like a pawn to the fucking labels because I feel like I'm just reiterating bullshit like when we're sitting there talking about Magnus Stan in his first week sales
Starting point is 00:48:19 in my head it's like I'm 50-50 on like if this is a real number or if this is a massively inflated number by the label because they know that it needs to look a certain way in order for her career to stay where it's at. But the way I see it is every label's doing it. So we're already adjusted to the norm. It's like inflation. Is every label doing it though?
Starting point is 00:48:42 What? I think so. Is every label doing it? Probably most. 100%. Most for sure. I might even think young boy might be doing it. Nah, man.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I think so. To consistently hit the numbers that he does, Every single drop. I know you said that like 30K isn't that a lot. But if you multiply, if you multiply 500 streams by the 30,000, that's millions in the first week. Yeah. Nah, bro. Nah, man.
Starting point is 00:49:09 I feel a young boy is definitely hot enough to where like we can probably say he can do 30K routinely, right? When I see his album is doing like, you know, or his music video is doing like three to five million on average after like the first couple weeks. if that's why I remember seeing them. Those are bought it. Potentially. I don't think so because I think that if you look at top rappers, that is within the ballpark of what their songs that are not big hits are going to do in the first couple weeks or months or whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:40 And it's like then I feel like there's another level, which is like 10 million. Once you get 10 million on YouTube, that's when you're really starting to like get into the territory of like, oh, everybody kind of heard that song or at least like a lot. That's like viral. And then once you get to 100 million, That's probably a song that like everybody knows.
Starting point is 00:49:57 I agree. Roughly speaking. I would say that that's kind of how it is on YouTube. Do we think the artist is asking the record label to boost up the numbers or is it just just automatic? I don't think they know anything. Sometimes I think the rappers are in on it. The SoundCloud era, I remember hearing some crazy shit, bro. But that's the gain leverage to get the deal though.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Sometimes, yeah. Yeah. Like you get, it's like, I walk in. I already have 100 mil on this song on SoundCloud. Then it makes the label want to buy you out. Okay, there's two things happening in the music industry at any given time. There's actually making hot shit that the label will or that the fans will spend money on or that the fans will stream that will make you money.
Starting point is 00:50:35 And then there's taking an artist and temporarily inflating their perceived value so that you can get a label to invest money into them. And then just kind of being like, all right, whatever, we got the bag. That's a flip. I could do that. I could take an artist. And just create the illusion that they're more popular than they actually are by, like, I don't know, creating drama with them or like having them do all kinds of viral shit or buying hello players on their videos and stuff. And then get the label to give us a million bucks where I get half for some shit.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And then just kind of be like, all right, like you're on your own. I still get you signed. And if you actually become popular, then I'm going to take the money. But I'm not going to do anything else now that we got this bag from the label, right? Now that's their problem. You say the label knows they're doing with the exploiting the algorithm. them so you don't think that they'd be able to tell if you're talking
Starting point is 00:51:27 at Atlantic Records I think they're the best in the business they're gonna like if there's a way to fake views they're gonna do it right but if you were trying to flip on them like they know they're like we're not buying this we're not giving you a dance because we know what you're doing because we do this shit already
Starting point is 00:51:42 yeah I would say that it turns yeah yeah yeah because buying fake views on YouTube and shit for sure the label is going to see through that right like you can do it on but unless you're goaded at it Like if you really got the goaded team that's going to have the, that's going to be able to pass the Atlantic Records analytic test. Yeah, you got to go and do the custom comments and like type in all these things. I feel all the time I see a video with 2 million views and it's got 300 comments and I'll read the comments that none of the fans seem to know who it is.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Or like if you see comments that are like, oh, I saw this as an ad on a video and it was actually pretty good. That's when you know. Because it's not, they don't have to just be straight bodded. They can also get tons of views by just buying it as like a pre-roll ad. Yeah, yeah. And that's like it kind of counts, I guess, but not really. Yeah. No, but I think like that's what six and I did, right?
Starting point is 00:52:33 Like, like, with the pre-roll ads, right? I think he did a lot of that. But I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. No, like, but like he, bro, like, in his numbers at those times, man, like, was wild
Starting point is 00:52:44 as fuck, right? But. Hit us with the topic. No, but, no, but like, back to like the fake streams type shit, right? So I feel like one of the, that really got like exposed quote unquote was money man now I'm somebody who because but they got him in a different way they're saying yeah on Spotify when you look at a Spotify profile and you look at the similar artists yeah that it's a bunch of bullshit and that that means that basically the
Starting point is 00:53:09 bots that they're using to like watch his shit are also looking at other random artists as opposed to similar artists because if you look at any young boys suggested artists I'm pretty sure it's going to be Lil Durk or Cuando Rondo or all these artists who are like similar to him musically so that's what they're basically saying about Money Man which I want to be honest that has always kind of been a thing with Money Man is that he seemed like he did
Starting point is 00:53:34 good numbers but then also like you know I didn't really like know that many people who were like big fans of him. I'm being respectful because I just I don't know he's a scam or nothing but I don't really know anyone to listen to him so I did when when they came out about him I was like oh I think just Atlantic has their own bot farm.
Starting point is 00:53:57 They're not going for China. They're letting everybody get it. It's in, well, on their label, yes. But that's why they can finesse so well because it doesn't do the money man like, uh, route. Yeah, it doesn't like show Chinese artists or whatever. But the question is like when you, like, okay, Kodak is a huge artist. Like Kodak can do a couple million views per music video even if the songs suck over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Yeah, of course. Yeah. Do they bother to like bought his shit as well? Because it just doesn't really seem like they have to. But at the same time, like, when we were looking at like 6-9's video when it came out and like every single comment is the same thing. Yeah. I think there's an exploit in it where it probably costs $1,000 to get a million views.
Starting point is 00:54:40 It costs something, yeah. And then you might make three to four dollars and basically have arbitrage. I mean, three to four thousand. But I will see artists all the time. But see, the thing is it probably costs Atlantic. so much less to buy views than it costs anybody else because who's going to have the greatest bot farm in the fucking world that they own that they have the best rates on like what if for atlantic somewhere but beneath the surface and i don't know how they do this because aren't they
Starting point is 00:55:07 publicly traded but couldn't they like have like own the bot farm yeah so like they're not only like selling plays to other people but they're also able to provide shit loads of place to their shit and it's so real that it's like impossible for fucking Apple to detect it or whatever would I put it past them no I think that would be the best investment because that probably costs less than even
Starting point is 00:55:31 marketing it to real people because the marketing will do itself once you have three to four million streams on it I am like anti-conspiracy theory generally speaking I don't like to like put shit out there that I don't have proof for but I for some reason
Starting point is 00:55:46 that just completely makes sense to it. I think it's true. I I have no evidence, but I completely believe it. On a bot farm? Or I think it's probably like through a shell coming here. They have like a very good secret. Like whoever the higher ups are like people at Llanic, they have to know the best bot farms.
Starting point is 00:56:02 They're clearly doing it. Also you can automate that whole process by like there are people who know coding, right? They can create proxies to create virtual machines and thousands of them at that. So then it can all just from one computer going into a virtual server. do millions and millions of streams. So it doesn't even have to be like a warehouse. No. Yo, no.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Here, right? So, like, there's like a huge, like a huge, like, bop form in Miami, right? To where, like, these dudes got like... Wait, what? Yeah, it's a huge bop form there, right? So pretty much, like, they use... It's all fresh and fit.
Starting point is 00:56:33 It's filled with bots every night. Really? No. No, he's troll of you, man. Travis Scott's artist, So Fago's new album, did not make the Billboard 200. He blames his fans for flopping.
Starting point is 00:56:44 It's funny that I used him as the example about his stock price earlier. I know. So basically, what do you think? Did you listen to this new album? I didn't hear it. So you guys are going to have to tell me what you think. I did.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Would you like me to go first or do you want to get into it? Because I could go off for days. Bro, listen, and he hates you. So, you know, so like, bring it out. So he doesn't hate you? He doesn't hate me. He doesn't hate me. Although I warned him literally two years ago.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Yeah. Don't wait. Play with me. You're waiting too long to release the album because he hadn't even like blown up to the fullest yet. And then what happens after two years And he finally releases an album It flops
Starting point is 00:57:21 And he signed a Travis Scott So like it just makes it look worse It makes Travis look worse Why do you think it flopped though? Like just bad music He just took too long or what? You listen to it? Yeah
Starting point is 00:57:33 Yeat took over And so all the fans in the underground That were for So Fago For the last two years Went over to Yeat And Destroy Lonely and Ken Carson And Summers And so he lost his whole
Starting point is 00:57:45 fan base, the narrative went against him and in rap, or when you're a hip hop artist, rapper, the biggest thing is narrative. If people think you're corny, then everybody starts piling in and you lost already. So he missed his little pump moment. He missed. Like Little Pump dropped the albums that did really well for like a year or two. Right. And then, you know, he capitalized on that moment, to be fair, you know?
Starting point is 00:58:09 Yeah. While Yeat literally dropped like three or four projects. And he got the Uzi features. and he got gun on there. So it's all about hitting the iron while it's hot, especially nowadays when rappers' careers are like three years.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Yeah. And I can't wait to hear this album now I'm hearing you say this because it just feel like I already know what it sounds like without having heard it. But, you know, what do you think? It's exactly your bag, is it?
Starting point is 00:58:36 Yeah. Here, right? So, one, I feel like his co-fan base has kind of like gone away, right? Because I feel like most of the people who and I've seen with like the meme pages the IG pages you know like the Twitter accounts
Starting point is 00:58:48 the Reddit accounts who was staying in him they've kind of like transition into Dick Rodden like to destroy lonely right so right so like once you lose your like your cult following and now like you're just like a what like a regular underground rap bro like
Starting point is 00:59:04 but neither you guys are talking about the music did you actually think the music was like very bad like worse than you expected? I thought it was decent it was just mainstream, but the underground didn't want that, and that was his famous. It wasn't bad, yeah. So. Because fans hated like the actual music, right?
Starting point is 00:59:20 Like, which, I don't know why. Music is so subjective. It doesn't even matter half the time what the music sounds like. It's what are people saying about it. That's literally all it is. Yeah. So if you're hot, you can drop garbage. You can shit in a mic and it will still do well.
Starting point is 00:59:36 He fucked up, though. Like, once he dropped like a pressure, he's talking about, oh, I wasn't trying to make the perfect album. I was just, like, like, bro, like, what does that fucking mean, bro? Like, I wasn't trying to make the perfect album. Like, like, I don't care if it's not perfect. I was just, just dropping what I thought was, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:54 like right or like what I felt like, nah, bro, like that just tells me, bro, like he went in and gave a fuck, you know, just made whatever, you feel me? I think he overthought it. Yeah. And that's why he waited. And then he started going, he's talking too much, too.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Like, we were discussing with the rappers. As soon as you start putting it on your fans. Yeah, yeah. That's not a good book. Bro, that's disgusting what he did, though, right? Like, say, yo, I mean, he's emotional. Like, he's fucking 21 years old. What do you expect?
Starting point is 01:00:21 He's old enough, bro. That's an old-ass nigga, though. He needs a manager to be like, yo, shut the hell up. Not. Yes. Yes, right. But at 21 years old, yo, like, you should know maybe I shouldn't ostracize the people who who still go off at 24 years old.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Yes, yes. But, like, I know better not to ostracize, like, people. people who support me, right? And first off, he's an ungrateful son of a bitch, right? Because that just comes off as ungrateful as fuck to wear bro. These are, again, like, these aren't like legit kids, right? Who are probably buying your merch, fucking with your music, right? The problem was they were hating.
Starting point is 01:01:00 That's who he was talking to. The ones fans, but that just shows how, like, these fans in the underground suck because they just, as soon as you start getting a little, little buzz and you go up to mainstream, they don't like you anymore because they want to be like little hipsters. That's why if you are that kind of artist, it is important that you capitalize at the time. But then that's what's weird too is that it's like realistically, he probably just like didn't have the music and he's just been working on the music since. So then like the music coming out now and people not being that enthusiastic, it's like extra brutal. It's like, oh,
Starting point is 01:01:35 you missed your peak and we're kind of like let down by the output. That's a thing with new artists. a lot of people say that their first album is always the best. It's because they had like five years to work on it, whereas the next one they have to follow up the next year. And it's like in a year's time, you're not going to get as good quality. Especially if you're super successful. It's like your first album is like your whole life.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And then the next album is like you being rich and famous for a couple of years. Right, right. Which is oftentimes a lot more boring. Anyway, my next question is, who's running opposition research for Ali Lottie? because she got a lot of negative press coming out in recent memory. Who?
Starting point is 01:02:15 Bucky. That's the YouTuber? Shut up. There's a YouTuber making videos about her? No, no. So the Juice World community, first of all, they have made like millions off the leaks
Starting point is 01:02:26 independently. But they have little Twitter accounts and Reddit accounts and Discord servers that look into every single fact about Juice World. They probably know his dick size. Nice and fuck.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Probably they leaked Ali Lottie's phone and they probably have, you know, I think they said there's a tape. We're not going to disrespect the legend. But, so Ali Lottie is now, like people are saying, she's ruining his legacy because she's starting an only fan,
Starting point is 01:02:55 which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but now she's claiming that he didn't die from Perk set or like the overdose. That's a new clip. That's a new clip. But she said it a while back too. Well, okay, the only way that I could make sense of that in my head,
Starting point is 01:03:10 is to say that he didn't he didn't overdose he basically had like a seizure or like a heart condition that was like induced by the fact that he was going through a very stressful situation which was you know exaggerated by the fact that he was on a bunch of perkinset and probably other drugs so what she's saying could be true although like people tend to simplify it down and say overdose and if you die when you're on a bunch of drugs people are going to say you overdosed She's claiming like the cop lied and like she's trying to say it's a conspiracy thing. Oh, brother. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:45 And like the like you didn't see the footage like the cops were lying, blah, blah, blah. So then people started thinking that he was associated with certain gangs because he had like 40 pounds of weed on the jet. And so they thought that he was funding a gang or like the gang was blackmailing him into funding it and that kind of stuff. There was no way this dude was being blackmailed. I believe, do I believe that the known gang members or known gang associates or whatever that he was assigned to? Do I believe that they were the type of people who might perhaps traffic a bunch of weed using their famous artists that they signed Jet? I mean, apparently, that seems to be what took place. That's every rapper though.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Well, I don't know. That's probably like the only time. I mean, I remember when didn't T.I get pulled over in Texas with like, pounds and pounds of heroin. Oh my God. Yeah, no, but it was like Or was it co-deem, but like they just said heroin. Oh, was that it?
Starting point is 01:04:45 I don't know. Because heroin's in the same group as like codeine, oxycodone, like Perkinsed. I've been thinking it was heroin my whole life, but I remember some guy that took credit for it right away and it just kind of went away. Yeah, they could have been exaggerating. But I mean, I don't think juice, just probably was, probably didn't know about the fact that they were also
Starting point is 01:05:01 shipping all this weed. Or if he did know, and maybe he was getting money off it, he was getting cut in. Or he was just like, Like, yeah, do whatever you want guys. A lot of rappers do that. I love you guys. Like, you can do this.
Starting point is 01:05:11 I'm making all this money off music. Yeah, you can use the jet to traffic weed. Because the thing about people think, oh, that's so risky. But when you're actually doing, like, crimes, a lot of people just feel like, we're not going to get caught. We're fucking geniuses. We thought up this brilliant plan. Nobody's ever going to catch us. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I wouldn't be surprised at all if he was just like. And he was on drugs. So, like, he might have been kind of ignorant of what, like, the severity of the issue was. Yeah. She's wrong, though, right? Young. Right? Like, I truly feel.
Starting point is 01:05:37 like, bro, like she needs help though. Like she's tweaking out badly, bro. Like, she's tweaking, tweeding. But was there really a video of her leaking or of trashing his music? Well, this is an old video, right? And she claims it was like, oh, you know, like this is how me and him plays. You feel like me? Like small dick.
Starting point is 01:05:53 You know, she said that. But what is, where did she actually do those tweaking? Because I feel like the only fans, it's like, yes, people can say you're hypocritical because you say you wouldn't do it before. But let's be real. She probably needs money. She probably doesn't have a whole, she was promoting NFTs around the time that I fucking interviewed.
Starting point is 01:06:07 So she probably is like just trying to figure out She can get some money And hey, as far as I know It's not like she's fucking a whole bunch of people On the only fans, right? It's past that though, right? Because like she told, yo, listen, the only fans is only gonna be
Starting point is 01:06:20 for exclusive Jews World content This for the fans. So like once you draw in his fans on some manipulation shit And now you switch it up And now you're actually charging for it Now you're showing ass. Yeah, come on, bro.
Starting point is 01:06:33 That's some like real diabolical evil shit, right? But I truly feel like, bro, she's probably like meth out of her fucking mind right now probably well i feel like the thing that's weird is that her fucking new boyfriend i guess was like showing off juice's old watch or something yeah i don't know if that's 100% true but if that is true because we're talking about in the office the other day like yo if something ever happened to my girl and i got a new girl in the future yeah her fucking wardrobe is off limits like that is the that is weird as fuck like why would that ever even be an option and then if he did like let's say somehow she did
Starting point is 01:07:06 end up giving him a watch the juice used to have don't be showing it off to the camera that's fucking odd bruh. He's young too though. So it was her watch that I think Juice bought for her. Oh well that's not that weird. Yeah so it's a little bit like that but then also the new boyfriend's kind of
Starting point is 01:07:22 playing music, hit Juice World's music in stories while wearing the watch. So they're trying to egg it on to get attention. That's so funny. Also some added context to that old video so they hacked into her phone before they they were even dating
Starting point is 01:07:37 and she was shitting on Juice World I think it was all girls are the same or lucid dreams so this is while he was blowing up so she was almost it's proven that she was a cloud chaser because she was a smoke perp groupie before I saw those tweets
Starting point is 01:07:52 yeah I mean hey I mean every girl to an extent if we find old tweets of you tweeting that Riley Reid saying hey I want to fuck that's okay I would never I mean not that she's bad I'm just saying she was tweeting a smoke perp
Starting point is 01:08:04 trying to fuck I mean, nobody was saying she was a saint before Juice came along, you know? No, but, like, she's supposed to, like, take, like, the ex-girls rock, right? She's supposed to hold it down. Yeah, where, as soon as ex-dodd, man, listen, man, I ain't seen her ankle, bro, she's wearing, I'm talking about, like, Sunday dresses, you feel him, long pants covering up, like, she's not in no controversy, so why couldn't Allie just give Juice Road, that's intimate? Again, fuck what you want to fuck, man, but don't have an 18-year-old kid you're fucking showing up Google's watch. Right. There's a right and a wrong way to do it.
Starting point is 01:08:36 But I will give an example is ex's baby mama. Yes. She's doing her thing. She's popping on Instagram. She's hosting it rolling loud, whatever. But I haven't seen her do anything tasteless. I haven't seen her do anything weird. But it's about him.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Yeah. But she like is taking the opportunity that she has as his ex and using that opportunity to like do shit. But she's not being a fucking weirdo about it. Right. Some of this alley shit, I'm looking at it like, okay, this is descending into weirdo. This is a little weird.
Starting point is 01:09:07 This is a little weird. Ex-girl is rich though and Allie is thawing, right? Exactly. That is the difference. It's because she has the kids, she's probably getting money as a result. And I'm sure that she doesn't have to go start
Starting point is 01:09:17 her only fans or do whatever weird-ass shit. Whereas with Ali, she was not married to him. I'm pretty sure there was no financial shit that took place at all, right? I think they were trying to have a kid too. So, yeah, she missed out. A month too late. Right? I mean, apparently they were having a miscarriage.
Starting point is 01:09:34 carriages because they were on too many drugs like the fertility wasn't there who said that hurt uh I made a couple of videos back in the day there was some proof Jesus I feel like she said I'm deep in the YouTube gossip mill all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:09:46 all right now to listen nah like it's two bloggers right so like we go on you're in touch on that right but let really bloggers because you don't have blogs I have a blog well I have a blog you're YouTubers IG blog I was a blogger I had a blog yeah no you had a legit website for sure
Starting point is 01:10:04 blog is You're not bloggers or YouTubers Well, I do have a website I used to write like articles on But then I just thought But it's you know It's poetic flock with media The blog business model
Starting point is 01:10:14 Doesn't work as well anymore No And that's yeah So that's why it's not really I think blog is just morphed into Instagram Like Twitter
Starting point is 01:10:23 Like what you think about Certain things that happen Well it is kind of right To call you a blogger Only in the sense that You guys's channels Are very much like blogs They're just video versions of blogs
Starting point is 01:10:33 And I hate that So much. But that's what's weird about the internet is that it just follows the incentives. Like it's very easy to monetize a 10 minute video and it's very hard to monetize like 20 paragraphs about an artist. Right. Like if you're a kid and you have to make the decision between being a writer for a magazine or a website versus being a YouTuber, you're pretty much insane if you go with the fucking magazine route because like I see YouTubers popping up all the time who just do the video essay thing hundreds of thousands of views just off writing good quality video essays about time. explain. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:06 That shit took over at a certain point. People blow up like overnight. Do you think that'll change? No, because that's kind of like the most basic thing on earth. That's like an op-ed article that was in the New York Times
Starting point is 01:11:19 in 1985. Like a video essay is exactly the same thing. But with visuals. Or like a video essay is like writing a book. It's like writing a short book. And instead of like going through the whole process of putting it out,
Starting point is 01:11:30 you just make a YouTube video. And it's like, if you're a nobody, if you don't have anything to go, on and you're like you could just build a career like that yeah I think that's the way to go nowadays for sure yeah if you have like real I've even started to do something look at Trapler Ross man he's on an epic run of millions
Starting point is 01:11:45 of millions of views off all this shit just by really doing the due diligence yeah no you yes but then there's an opposite of like Trapler Ross where it's people who would just wait for Trapler Ross to drop videos and then react no like I take his video and remake it into like a five second piece that's like just like jam pack a bit Oh, TikTok. Like a 10 minute piece or a TikTok type thing.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Yeah, that's true. That's why it's got to be kind of frustrated and doing all that research sometimes. I hate research, man. Well, actually, the research is fine. It's like the writing the scripts. I hate writing scripts. Yo, no, listen, I got to start writing actual scripts
Starting point is 01:12:20 because for me is more so like, I just like chop my videos up in like 10 different pieces and just do like, you know, da-da-da-da-stop, right? But like, I feel like, I think Adam State of two is like when he started like during like the pandemic doing kind of like the long form content like you actually wrote out your scripts too
Starting point is 01:12:37 right uh if i'm gonna do long form content or if you're gonna do high quality like yeah long content like that like yeah i think you kind of have to write it like trap war ross's shit the only way he's able to do this like rapid fire content that is the reason why it should does so good is just because he writes it out like you guys you can get away with doing like shorter like that's one thing i like about ticot though is it like basically incentivizes you to do like less than a minute of content, which is like really makes a lot of sense because so much of the YouTube vlogs I put out back of the day, I was just really stretching it to hit 10 minutes, even if it was like pretty good. Anyway, I wanted to ask this before I dip out. I want to do ESTG.
Starting point is 01:13:19 I just talked about Boosy with all them. Uh, ESTG's sister says that she is homeless and he will not help her. I actually got hit up by ESTG's manager who was like pretty pissed off that the No Jumper Instagram posted this. And, but by the time I saw that he said something, everybody else had posted it too. So I, like, responded to him. And by that point, I think he realized that it was already everywhere. My points or the key points that we also have on this is that he already gave her over $100,000 apparently.
Starting point is 01:13:49 And she has three kids and she is apparently very bad at managing her money. I wouldn't be real with you, like, if my sister was in a situation where she was so fucked up that she couldn't take care of her kids it would be really really really hard for me because okay like take the kids out of the equation if your family member or if your sister or whatever is just a straight crackhead
Starting point is 01:14:12 living under a bridge or whatever because you've like you've tried to help her out and shit but she just is like she's gone fuck it I mean you just got to cut ties at a certain point like so what you're my sister I don't fucking care I'm gonna cut size with you but with the kids involved all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:14:26 it kind of pulls in my heartstrings but at the same time if you're the fucking mom and you just keep, if you get $100,000, I'm sorry, that's like winning the fucking lottery. I know. If you fuck that up, what are we talking about? We have no idea how toxic she is. It sounds like very. Well, like her comment on TikTok to shame her brother shows me how toxic she is, right?
Starting point is 01:14:49 Because why is that something that we know about? Why is he such a famous rapper that he has to take care of every single fucking sibling that he's had in his life? For me, it would be hard with my sister. She was in that position because we really were. or close like that. Whereas, like, we don't know how well he knows her. Like, he might have 10 siblings for all we fucking know. And I'm sorry, is ESTG making some money?
Starting point is 01:15:10 For sure. Is ESTG filthy rich? We don't know that. And we're probably wrong to assume that. Because, I mean, as a rapper, like, yeah, you are, like, making a much of money, but you also can be spending a fuckload of money real fucking fast. So the assumption that ESTG is so wealthy that he should be expected to give her more than $100,000, dollars?
Starting point is 01:15:30 Come the fuck on him. That's insane. Do you think he has $5 million in his account right now? No. Damn. No way.
Starting point is 01:15:38 No way? A fuckload of capital that'd be having, bro. That's insane. No way. Very few rounds. I think he means like net worth. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:15:46 His net worth includes like his catalog and shit. Of course he's worth over $5 million. But how much is the label owned? No. Bro, here. But I thought that he had $5 million in cash because I doubt it. God,
Starting point is 01:15:57 I would assume. I think that's like a lot more cash than you would have, than you're thinking. Five million is like, you would have already bought some houses, you already put some stock market. I will never have five million dollars cash ever in my entire life. Why? Because I would always invest it before it got to that point.
Starting point is 01:16:11 It loses value. That's way too, way too much money to be having in cash. Like, you should definitely, like, the first thing I would be thinking is like, oh, I need to build property, buy property and I need to start, like, creating things to, like, expenses to offset the tax burden that's going to be created by me having this much money.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Yeah. No, but I feel like when, comes to him and his sister, I can definitely relate, right? Because I'm somebody who kind of like, like people were kind of shocked and I got like dirty responses, right? When I told, you know, like, you know, say, yo, listen, like, me and my sister don't talk like that, you feel I mean? Because
Starting point is 01:16:40 we're not even beefing. It's just like her presence really, really like don't bring peace my life, right? So, you know, I just kind of like stop talking. I get along with my sister, but I have like a cousin that I've hated my whole life. Like, even when we were young. Like, we were, like, I just thought she was a shitty person. Like, I just didn't like her. I just didn't go along with her. I haven't seen her
Starting point is 01:16:56 probably since I was like 14. but if that was my sister and not my cousin like for sure if she became a crackhead right now I wouldn't care or would not even talk to her on the phone or do anything about it like that I don't give a fuck I don't know you like that I haven't talked to you since like in like 20 years like longer than that
Starting point is 01:17:13 like I'm not called you right now and said yo Adam man I got six kids hell no we're homeless under a bridge God hell no I don't know about money I don't know you like that I don't know about money but he should just like the least at least should...
Starting point is 01:17:28 A place, right? Get them a place. Yeah, like bring him in, but you don't know how many times he's already done that. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just not his fucking fault. I feel bad because of the kid part. But at the end of the day, you're the fucking one
Starting point is 01:17:41 who's fucking this up. She's acting like the victim. You're responsible for your own... Yeah. For taking care of your own life and taking care of your own kids. You shouldn't have had three kids in the first place, obviously. Yeah. And then I can almost guarantee you,
Starting point is 01:17:54 almost guarantee you, bro. Like the baby daddy is probably a drug dealer. who's probably serving like 20 years in prison right now. You are a racist. I'm back up. I was that to say. Listen, I'll also just say this, is that I think it's irresponsible
Starting point is 01:18:05 for people who are broke to have kids. Like, I don't even think you should be having kids in the first place if you're broke. Like, this is just, having kids should be considered like an accomplishment that you get to do once you've secured yourself financially. Ben Shapiro had the best line, and he got called all type of, like, insensitive.
Starting point is 01:18:21 And he said, listen, there's really one simple formula to escape poverty. Just one. graduate high school get a job don't have kids until you're married right you follow those three
Starting point is 01:18:32 formula then you probably won't live an abject bottom to barrel poverty those are very very good pieces of advice I wouldn't even say like till you're married but I would say until you're financially secure it's not causation it's just correlation
Starting point is 01:18:45 having a kid is like starting a business and having a kid without a proper security net financially is like starting a business with no money in the bank and yeah like having a kid is something that people do just because they feel so strongly about each other that they just want to so much.
Starting point is 01:19:01 And I have seen it with people in my life who I've told me that they wanted to have a kid and I said well do you really think you like got enough money right now to have a kid? That seems like a big undertaking. Yeah. And it was like I'm talking logic
Starting point is 01:19:17 to someone who's just like absolutely refusing to hear any kind of logic. It's like, no, but we're so in love and we're gonna, like you. And I'm just like, Okay. How much you think a kid costs per year? So fucking much.
Starting point is 01:19:29 What? I feel like you probably are a little boozy. You're probably a little boogey with it though. Exactly. But I'm saying that even if you're not bougie at all, I think I've read that it's like 15, 20K. Okay. I think. Because I mean, I could see that.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Dude, like food shelter, like just having a chunk of your house devoted to the kid. The fact that it's going to make it harder for you to work as a woman that you're going to have to take certain periods of off from working that you're going to have to get a nanny probably. Food. doctors, school, like, it's just like infinite expenses associated with that. Like, yeah, probably a ton of people
Starting point is 01:20:04 underestimate how expensive it's going to be. So how the fuck are these like like hoodniggas having so many kids, because it would cost $50,000,000, but... Listen, your guess is as good as much. Man, man, man. That doesn't mean that they're healthy. But is that how it works?
Starting point is 01:20:17 Like, if you have more kids, you get more money from the government? You get more... Back on taxes, right? Is that how it works? I have no idea. Yeah, because I think... You get more benefits.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Yeah, you get like 10,000 for like two kids. The old, like, thing that racist people used to say in the 90s was like, these black people just want to have kids, these welfare babies so that they can. I'm telling you, man. It's not 10-K. I just have no idea if that's actually how it works. Right. No, listen, like, I, again, I know some like single momas who get back like 10-and-K
Starting point is 01:20:43 and on their taxes with like two or like two or like two or like two three kids. Right. No way. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. They get 10,000 deducted, but they don't get 10,000 like, straight up a month. Tax returns back. Oh, 10,000 a year.
Starting point is 01:20:58 So what, 5,000 per kid or 10,000 per kid? Yeah, yeah, no, like 5K per kid. Yeah, you get a deduction. If you're having a kid for 5K a month, or for 5K a year, you are pathetic. Right, right, right, right. So fucking bumming. He's flossing that shit, though. 400 bucks a month.
Starting point is 01:21:10 No, but he said it costs 15 to 20K. I know. It's a net loss. Well, probably the way that they're raising their kid, they're finding a way to skimp a little bit here on that. Section 8. I don't know who we're talking about, but if you're having a kid so you can get 5K a month, for sure you're finding a kid.
Starting point is 01:21:24 whatever way you can to not spend 5K a month raising that kid right but dude 5K like even just food and diapers I mean bro when they're one you are fucking churning through these diapers that's nasty man
Starting point is 01:21:39 oh yeah it's rough just like throw them out in the yard just let them spew it and then come back yeah you wonder that when you're going through this money diapers you're like could there be like a version of this that you just wash afterwards maybe because this feels so wasteful to be just going through this many.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Nobody wants to hear me to talk about this. No, but T.I. But T.I. The scene in diapers. Yo, T.I. Now, we just heard, well, okay, not heard, but there's been kind of rumors, I guess, for like the last couple years, right, that T.I. was a snitch, right? And they said, said that he told a couple people. I even heard Wack 100 and on Clubb, I was even saying, yo, T.I.'s a snitch, right?
Starting point is 01:22:19 and things really kind of like heated up when TI got like the civilian of the year award from like the city of Atlanta and like people were like hold up now bro like that even sounds off right like a civilian of the year award screams working and then the Atlanta DA's like him out and said there's a prominent rapper who's snitching so so a TI just came out I think today on his expeditiously expeditiously podcast that's his back well yes right and he's that he caught a gun case with his cousin, right? And, and, like, the cousin passed away, like, afterwards. So that his lawyer told him, yo, I can make this disappear. Just put it on your kid. Sorry, put it on your dad home. Yeah, I'm dead cousin. So, he said, hell, yeah, I put it on on the dead, you know, the dead cousin.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Now, two questions. One, do you think that this would really affect his legacy? Like, like, now that he, I just outright admit it, yes, I did. I did tell in the past. Listen, you ever hear the phrase No harm, no foul? Yes. If what I do has no negative effect on anyone.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Yeah. And it helps me out in a massive sense of not having to go to fucking prison. Yeah. Didn't the cousin also say to do that? Well, he claims the cousin came to him in a dream and like told him. And it's not even like he snitched on a body.
Starting point is 01:23:46 He snitched on a gun. Like, what the fuck? is that? Like this guy probably fucking did have a gun half of the time like you know, like half the people I know carry guns Faco, if me and you were driving around and fucking we catch a gun if I catch a gun case and then
Starting point is 01:24:00 you die and then I put the gun case on you are you really gonna be mad at me? What the fuck cares? I think you would want him to do that. A body is different. Like when they have the conversation about gangsta, Terrence Williams or whatever that's a fair conversation because putting a body on somebody's pretty fucking serious. But a gun who cares? Nah.
Starting point is 01:24:16 But though like, again like T. T.I. fan base probably isn't the most like reasonable logical thinkers. Like TI fan base will probably fill with niggas who are, you know, like 35 and up, right? But why are they not reasonable? T.I.I. is a grown-ass man. His fan base, like, I remember when T.I. was the young gangster-ass crazy-ass rapper. I mean, he's not anymore, right? Like, I'm a grown-ass man now. I can look at this objectively. I would say that probably like a pretty small percentage of T.I's fan base would even give a fuck about this. It's not like he's this swash-buckling 25-year-old
Starting point is 01:24:47 anymore. Right, but though, and he does has a history of that, right, of being the Madison Street nigger, of having some real games to lyrics, right? And for him to come out now and say, yo, yes, I did snitch in the past, now that title is going to run with him forever. Like, he would
Starting point is 01:25:03 never escape the, yo, he's a snitch pass, right? I can't say how people are going to judge him for it. I just think personally that it's a pretty rational decision. To tell on that homie? Yeah. Yeah, man. Bro, listen, like I'm sure. Now, for a body is a different thing. Like that probably, I would assume.
Starting point is 01:25:19 It's the same thing though, right? I would assume in the streets that ratting on somebody for a body carries a different consequence or different weight. Yeah, I think the-just-a-gun. Is that really what we're talking about? The whole concept of snitching is too strict. Like, they call snitching just talking to the cops at this point. Just like, well, no, right? I feel like, okay.
Starting point is 01:25:41 But like, actually saying, listen, yes, I did snitch, right? I feel like he did admit to that. yes I did do this but like that can constitute of snitching but like we can say listen like even though that snitching nobody was affected so who gives a fuck I'm saying I don't think like
Starting point is 01:25:58 will he be judged by the streets definitely? Perhaps I don't know what the fuck the streets are going to think but I think there's probably a reason why he felt comfortable admitting this in the first place because he feels like he can rationalize it he feels like he can justify it so he fucking came out and said it just to
Starting point is 01:26:14 sort of say hey judge me that being said I'm gonna get out of here appreciate you guys do like a fucking other hour brad wait what time is it
Starting point is 01:26:24 732 Rob come here Rob as he was saying Why why does his legacy need to be continued after he made all of his money already you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:26:38 yes right but like are his streams really going down after that so I don't even think people are like talking about the current impact is going to have, right? It's just, yo, man, like, you're a T.I. Meaning, like, you've built, like, your foundation on being a solid street group, right?
Starting point is 01:26:53 You're supposed to have, like, the ethics of the street code. Yeah, right? I get it. And, and, yo, like, he was one of the prime dudes who came online, poke his chest out, and was vehemently against 6'9. We're saying, yo, listen, man, you're back for the coach, like that, right? So then you tell me, like, what's the clear difference? Again, this is a question to you guys.
Starting point is 01:27:12 When I hear T.I. say yes, I told in the past, yes, you know, I snitch with my dad-cousin. And then when I see him attack six-nine for telling, to me that screams apocity. So now my question is, what's the clear line between six-nine and T-I? I don't see it. There's no clear line. Snitching and snitching. If you're cooperating with the police, it is what it is.
Starting point is 01:27:32 And the thing is, too, they're the same people. The family of the victim, it depends. When you snitch on them after they die, their family deals with the after effects of you snitching on them. So that's why people say, oh, if you snitch on a dead, you're still causing some type of issue, especially if you're putting a body on them. But it's his family. It's his cousin. Okay. So maybe he told him like, yo, you know, he told me he'd take it for me.
Starting point is 01:28:00 He was dead. He was dead. Maybe his family and his auntie was like, yo, baby, go ahead and snitch on him. Maybe. And also, isn't it like a better look to go out with, like, some charges? Like, his cousin passed away. He died and, like, didn't get anything? Like, that ain't cool.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Man, bro, listen, like, that's just a prime example of, man, when that white man comes in that black suit, bro. I mean, listen, bro, T.I. said my lawyer stepped in that black suit, looking at my eyes and say, yo. Well, because... I'm going to disappear for you. It's a different, like...
Starting point is 01:28:32 It's a different code. Bro, listen, man. Like, I'll be real with y'all, man. Like, that T.I. story just convinced me what I've been telling you, brother, that these hund niggas got no... Bro, they got zero absolutely no cold to them, bro. You feel me? Oh, wait.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Oh, shit, will Ke Harris, Rob? No, no. Yeah, okay. Right? You're yelling, man. How can you know? No, right, because Adam, like, you know, took his, right? Nah, but, bro, like, that Ti-I story just told me, bro, that, like,
Starting point is 01:29:01 bro, like, these little niggas got no form of cold to him, bro, listen. If T.I, a dude who will poke out his chest, who's against all forms of rat and all forms of snitching who's been, I'm talking about on the front line of saying, yo, we need to ex out all rats in the right in my blood. If he did that in his past, but come on now. Like, how can we even like point to, yo, these dudes got morals? So there's the morals in the streets. So if they don't have morals, then why do you care?
Starting point is 01:29:28 Listen. They act like they do. Yes. That's the problem. Right? Tia is somebody that's like, yo, he was one of the prime people like, I ain't snitching. And not only that, he had an artist with him. I forgot what he was called.
Starting point is 01:29:39 He ended up snitching that he got back a long time ago. It was like an alpha, omega, alpha, that was one of his artists in Grand Hustle that got called for snitching. So it's already been snitch allegations. Come on. Eight years later, that's when you finally admitted after coming at Charleston White and all these other people for snitching. Oh, come. Bro, how are you going to call Charleston White a police? Bro, let's be real hair now, bro.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Because he's sniffing on alive bodies. Man, listen, man. It's the same. It's the same. It's not. It's not. I'm not saying it's completely okay. I'm just saying that people think it's so black and white.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Like, it's wrong or it's right. There's levels to how right or wrong it is. Right now, I'm more terrified to do a crime in front of TI than, then, then, then. When are you going to be in front of TI? Bro, almost never, right? But, but if I were to do a crime. When are you going to commit a crime? I couldn't see you committing a crime.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Never. But if I were to do a crime now. No, what I were to do a problem between Charleston White and TI? I'm gonna do that crime in front of Charleston White, man. Why? Unless he's gonna tell you he's gonna sing. Man, come on, man.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Listen, bro. Listen, I can bargain with Charleston White. He's a grimy motherfucker. Tia, at the line to my face for eight, well, damn near a decade. About, ah, nah, bro. I ain't never gonna snitch. It's not, Camo, yo.
Starting point is 01:30:59 That man is worse than who. Charlton White's not. He's not hanging out with brokies. Let's be real. All the people around him, they're on the same shit. That's true. He got his kids and stuff.
Starting point is 01:31:10 So he probably don't care. But he's not, it is going to, like, Atlanta artists and stuff are going to look at him sideways. Like, a lot of artists are not like that was a big thing he dropped because some people might be cool with it, but overall, T.I was pretty much like the NBA young boy of his era when he was young. So it's like, that's like if NBA young boy eight years later, say, yo, just let you guys know I snitched on my dad. And then two is like, what's the possibility again?
Starting point is 01:31:36 I'm just doing it out there, right? Because the later DA did say it, whack 100, say. they were talking about 21 Savage, right? So when Atlanta Dia said, yo, there's a prominent Atlanta rapper who's currently working with us, right? Now, people assume that was about, you know, 21 Savage, which, you know, I haven't seen any proof of that, right? Now, what you guys think the possibilities are she's talking about Tiak? Because I think right now is 95%. Do you guys remember that video he had to?
Starting point is 01:32:03 The crime stop was video? Yeah, come on, bro. Yeah, after that. We talked about that earlier. Yeah, that's why I'm like, with that on top of it, he's deaf. Definitely, it's just too close. It's way too close to home. Bro, bro, listen, it's like way too close, right?
Starting point is 01:32:16 But past that, though. So let's talk about a story that I believe No Jumper made famous, right? It's the crypto, like, the crypto billionaires, right? So, yo, I'll be real. Like, since I randomly found, like, a random, like, article and thought it would be cool to post, I posted it, and that post probably got, like,
Starting point is 01:32:34 100 to 200,000 likes, right? And then ever since then, like, whenever a new crypto guy dies, They just go ahead and just like report it. Well, there's more story behind it. That's why. Because crypto crashed. So now they think it's, they're not committing suicide.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Like they're getting targeted. Wait, hold up. Whoa, wait. Like, so like you actually think they're being targeted. For sure. Okay. Like, for what though? Why?
Starting point is 01:33:00 Because crypto was essentially a Ponzi scheme. And don't get me wrong. Like, I made some money in crypto. You look like, I don't know, like you got a couple of money on crypto. I did. I got out of it last November at like roughly the top, but because everybody knew about it. So it's like, okay, if everybody's in crypto, that means that all the rich people and the smart people are selling because that's the top. But anyway, so this whole crypto thing, the way that the way that taxes work, it was a loophole where you could essentially launder all the money you were making in like a little token that wasn't US dollars and not lose it. to the government. And not get tax for it. And not get tax for it.
Starting point is 01:33:43 So now when these people, all the crypto exchanges are going down and maybe you lost a bunch of these billionaires net worse or it probably wasn't that big of a chunk. Or the government's looking after you and the crypto bill, the actual billionaires that laundered
Starting point is 01:33:59 through you, they don't want you to tell the government what you know. So they're killing them off. Whether it be the government or the billionaires, It's all the same shit. Let's be real. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:11 So are we seeing like a real life conspiracy happen? You've seen FTX, right? Okay. So they literally took customer funds, billions and billions of dollars, and just did whatever they wanted with it. And since crypto was so deregulated, they could. Whereas when you put it in the bank, you can't. Like they can't just give it away. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:37 So it's a Ponzi scheme. Yeah, right. So I guess my concerns would be exactly like what for, right? Because again, like if these dudes are billionaires, right, and they were willing to like fall in line and play the game with it, like, for example, like the last dude who just got killed, that shit was spooky, right? Because I think he died in October, but somehow like the just got and the news just came on. Yeah, right. But I think his tweet's here. Here, let me like. He's got his ex-girlfriend was a spy for the government and the rich pitos who were doing. doing shit at like Epstein's Island. It seems like a real life like conspiracy movie just happened. Yeah, yeah. Here, so the, here, like, like, he had one last tweet.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Yes, let me actually pull it up right now. Because that last tweet to me was like, my girlfriend's a spy. They planted stuff on my... Yeah, they were gonna plant like probably child, you know, what. I already found his computer. Bro, why didn't we like post a tweet? Like, we just posted the, like the headline here. Let me go ahead and try to find a tweet real quick.
Starting point is 01:35:39 Right, because, like, to me, like, that tweet shows, man, but he's probably on some bullshit, right? Like, he's probably on some other shit because, like, that could be another thing, because SBF, who's the guy under fire right now because he was head of FTX. Yeah. He, when he hired employees in Bahamas is where they were headquartered, he would essentially recommend different stimulants to take so that you can work well and have a good time and whatever. So all these crypto people are probably on shit. And they all in Puerto Rico. Like a lot of the big network network and being in Puerto Rico. Why's that?
Starting point is 01:36:18 Taxes. Taxes. Tax haven. Yeah. Puerto Rico is like one of the best places for taxes. Like, and they want people to move there so they can invest. So they put the tax rate very low out there. And it's a, what's it called?
Starting point is 01:36:31 It's a territory. So they don't get state tax and they get reduced federal tax. What? Wait. What? Yeah, so that's why I like Logan Paul moved there Wait, hold, Logan Paul moved to Puerto Rico Like two years ago
Starting point is 01:36:44 You didn't see Bad Bunny came at Bad Bunny actually came at Logan Paul And then from moving out there, they got beef No, so I seen, like, which I'm gonna call it? So, I seen that like the people of Puerto Rico Was really like upset at Logan Paul For moving there to like, I guess just to extort the taxes, right? And Bad Bunny dropped a music video
Starting point is 01:37:03 Where he actually put pitches of Logan Paul And of the corrupt, well, to say, him corrupt influencers in Puerto Rico. But then Logan Paul called him out for saying that he did the same shit. Then some people said, oh, but he's Puerto Rican and he lives there. So how could you even say he's doing the same shit when he's from Puerto Rico and you're not from him? So is he really doing the same thing or is he just born there?
Starting point is 01:37:24 But technically speaking, I mean, Jake, I mean, Logan Paul's bringing money to Puerto Rico. Oh, no, I agree with Logan Paul. We're just helping their economy. I completely agree with that. It's just that's the back and forth. that people are having. And they're saying that he isn't where he, him and Loganpaw are like invested into like the boxing, um, gyms and stuff giving all them old facilities so that they get
Starting point is 01:37:49 training and stuff. So I know it's to each. That's also a tax break. Donating money to. Wait, the thing is this though, right? So like, so, okay. So like, is it worse that he's, you know, that like he moved there specifically just, just to get the tax breaks, but like bad bunying them are still profiting off the exact
Starting point is 01:38:08 exact same tax break? Because they live, they're born there, though. So what, though? That's like if you were born in Liberia and they're giving in Liberian taxes and I'm coming at you.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Yeah. You're doing the same thing, but you're librarian. Is it really the same thing if you're like, like it's meant for you. And you probably grew up in like poverty or some shit.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Well, here, right? So you're not getting the actual benefits from it. Whereas these rich billionaires coming over and just building kingdoms on top of what you were living on in boxes, hypothetically.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Well, Well, half of them can't really like get the like tax breaks, right? Because they don't make like what. I'm sure like just like a cat to it, right? Say you know, like you have to make about like $2 million, right? Right, like per year, right? So I don't think, think that the majority of Puerto Rican citizens can really like benefit from the same tax breaks that Logan Falls.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Right, but they're not benefiting from the government. No, anyone that makes over 100K could benefit if they go to Puerto Rico. Like if you once you pass that tax bracket where you actually paying a lot of money. Oh, wow. That's love. Yeah. Yeah, because, like, I was even, like, in the point where it's like, I want to actually think about moving out there with the way taxes is going. You?
Starting point is 01:39:14 Yeah, the way California taxes, man, the more money you make is not the best in California. That's why I live in Florida. Yeah, no, down from Florida. But Florida, there, there, is either you get a gun, you can't, no, it's either, I don't know, my fault, that's marijuana. Because they, you guys get guns or you can't get marijuana. It's one or another. Marijuana is decriminalized, but they sell it, like, on the streets. But no, you don't got like cornices or dispensaries you could go to.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Right, right. But the reason why is because you guys could own guns, could, like, have guns out and shit. Oh. States that you can't have guns out, you could have marijuana. I think that's just a conservative versus liberal. Liberal states tend to legalize marijuana faster, whereas conservative states tend to keep guns legal.
Starting point is 01:40:01 Do you know any state that both are? I'm not sure. That's how I'm like, I don't think of a state. There's like a law where like you have to do one of the other. You could only, you could either own, I can either have my medical card or my gun license. I can't have both. I know that for sure. Where?
Starting point is 01:40:20 And like, Cal? And, yeah, I think definitely in California, even like Florida, too. I definitely think Florida too. Because if you have like medical reasons, you could get a medical card, but you can't have a medical card and a gun license in like states like Florida. Maybe it has to do with like the prescription. Like you're crazy. Like you need this weed so you're not allowed to have a gun. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:44 I'm sure people have both. No, but legal? No, but. Maybe not legally. Nah, but speaking of legal changes, let's actually speak on Boosey, man. So whose side are y'all on here? Are y'all on? So Gabriel Union took to her.
Starting point is 01:40:58 No, I feel like that's, I feel like that right there was an old clip, right? Of her and Jamel Hill. It seems like it. That was recent. And they leaked it. Yeah, right? So she essentially said, yo, Yabusi is making her think and consider he's gay since he has, I guess, you know, Lo Nazax and her daughter, Zaya Wade, on his mind 24-7.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Now. So you think he's projecting? Well. She thinks he's projected. Yeah, right? So now she got backlash from a lot of people for playing with that man's sexuality. So. I mean, a lot of times that is how it goes.
Starting point is 01:41:35 What? The guys that I've known that like trying to talk about like, oh, fuck, dude, whatever, people who are gay or I fuck so many women. Like, talking about all these stories, I'm like, dude, just tell me, like, you're gay, huh? Here, here, bro, so is it homophobia or, like, do you think that, you know, like, he just cares about, you know, like, what's being, I guess, like, for example, he was big on, yo, grinding on a devil. And then tongue kissing, you know, like a husky black dude on B.T. awards while my kids are watching. That's not cool. So can he still be concerned without
Starting point is 01:42:13 existing in homophobia? I think you can because I just think it don't matter if it was like a female or a guy. I think like it just the time's appeared now just everything is more sexualized. So you're seeing stuff that 10 years ago that we wouldn't be seeing on TV and stuff. And like with the Gabriel Union scenario, I feel like you can't be distant. To me, it's like how you're making it being gay insult. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, yeah, he's saying all this. You know why?
Starting point is 01:42:42 Because he must be, he must like Dix. I think he thinks about Dix 24-7. It's like you're making a call standing up for her daughter for her transition. And the thing is when Boosie first heard about the transition and he thought they were talking about, they were going to cut off her penis, I mean, her penis, his penis, whatever you want to call it. So he was like, yo, at 14 years old, you can't cut the dick, man. You can't be kind of, like, that's why he was spazzing it. It makes sense because, like, at 14 years old, I feel you, but you shouldn't be making no surgery.
Starting point is 01:43:16 And that's why he responded away. So he didn't have all the facts, but you could see why he was like, you're letting a 14-year-old cut their, like, they might not even know 10 years later. They might regret it and stuff. So for her taking that approach, I just feel like you can't play, you can't get in a dog pin with pigs and think they're not going to while out. That's why Boozy just set it off on her. Like, D-Wade is gay. Yo, here, let's actually read his response, yo, because I feel like... Yeah, we need context.
Starting point is 01:43:46 Yeah, like, he probably went a little bit overboard. So, again, this is in his response to her calling him gay. And he put L-O-L-exclamation point. The whole world know I love women in the world. Sorry, what the... Bro, these rap is got the worst grammar. The whole world know I love women. women and the world know your husband love dick.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Hope you don't think blacks look at y'all like a power couple. They don't. I have refused to talk about y'all in interviews and here you go. Go banging with that dildo and wait on a script, you little white girl. Now, one, I never heard her doing way being gay, man. Now, now, I've heard like Dway rocking the zesty, like, you know, like the zesty office. And some people are saying that maybe he's living vice. curiosity through Zaya, right? But yeah, bro, like, I feel like that response is a tabbit too much,
Starting point is 01:44:40 right? Because if she's attacking you, yo, I'm caught for her, right? Why bring up Dway sexuality? Not because there is rumors that Dway is gay and I think his ex-wife. He has like five kids though. Yeah, I mean, hey. I mean, that's called a bear or something. That's bisexual. Yeah. So, and the thing is like D-Wade, D-Ddy, like, there's a lot of people that have been like considered like they've been gay and stuff so that's why he um he said that because people are been saying that dway this guy him and dway Howard in the NBA so what never heard about i could not imagine Dwight Howard just

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