No Jumper - The Flyysoulja & Kodiyakredd Interview: Kidnapping, Kodak Black Co-sign & More

Episode Date: October 7, 2021

The twins talk about their come up, juvie, fatherhood, Kodak Black, antics on IG live, fake love, real haters and more! https://www.instagram.com/kodiyakredd/ https://www.instagram.com/flyysoulja/ ---...-- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5tesvmDS8h50LkjnSAWMOs?si=j6sJD6DkR4mk5NZZWnlK7g FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B4klzmoDyLz6v6YM iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFICIAL http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today we got two of the craziest people on the internet at this current moment in time, Fly Soldier and Red 4X. Is it Red 4X or Red 4x or Red 4 times? I don't know exactly how to say this. So I link up with Kodat Black and what's it called? He said he initiated me in Sniper Gang. So he had changed my whole thing to Cody at Red.
Starting point is 00:00:26 So I'm not even Red 4X anymore. So because I saw the new music video, it says Kodiak Red, which where does that come from? Is that like a version of Kodak? Yeah, he said I'm like the other version of Kodak. Just two, you know, two different skin colors. And he's like, called me twin and stuff like that and this and that. He just, he asked to link up with me and I'm a brother, which I find weird because, you know, kind of come in a package with twins. Because they got the same tattoo in the middle of the forehead.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Yeah. Right. He, he, he, he, he, he'd been knew who red was. He'd been watching him. Yeah, he said he's been watching me since I had curly hair. So it's been a long time. He said he fought with him. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Wow. So when he reached out, he just reached out to you. And how did he go about reaching out? He knows who my brother is, but he was, it was like, what, like last week. He was watching my story. And then I saw him. He liked, like, a thriller, like a video of me posting my music like three months ago. And then what's it called?
Starting point is 00:01:18 And then he put in the comments, little bro. And then what's it called? Then last week, he had hit me up in the DM saying, hey, what's up? And I said, what's up back to him. And then he said, give me your number. call me like three hours later and then he I'm like who's this and then he put me on he then he tried to FaceTime me and then when he goes I'm trying to link he goes he goes like where I got to fly you out or something like that no but code is funny though he's he's he's um like when he was on face time
Starting point is 00:01:43 when he was trying to like be like you're gonna be my other twin yeah to him yeah I'm like he got he got a twin already so yeah so like so he said he said I got to fly you out something like that I said I'm in Palm Beach right now he goes like oh you could drive and goes like do I get your Uber and then I'm like now I'll come so I pulled up I pulled up to his hood and pumping him and then what's it called and then um they went from there and then what's it called then he had changed my name and stuff like that talking about he initiated but we haven't talked we talked like a couple of times in the messages but I don't know what's going on you're down to sign to him um if the paperwork is right he said he wanted to sign me like 10
Starting point is 00:02:20 times like I'm a John I'm a John Hancock this I put a signature on it see I don't get my lawyer in this I want to talk about people business like that but He want him to, um, he want him to, like, do weird things, like, not weird things, but cut his hair. Yeah. Like, transform. I think he got mad at me, because he had texted me, uh, we, we was up all night. We was hanging out for, like, nine hours. He got mad at me or something like that or something, because he's, he stopped, like, having the same
Starting point is 00:02:44 type of energy right when he told me, um, I want you to cut your wicks off because I'm going to cut my wicks off and, um, and, uh, what's it called? And we're going to, because he, he's like, I want you to wear suits with me. I want you to wear like, he wears a turtle necks now. He does a lot of these videos and stuff where he's got the rappers that are signed to him or whatever, rest in peace to whiz or I've seen him with Psycho Bob, etc. And they're all rocking suits together. Yeah, he goes like, you got the tattoos, you got the golds and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:03:11 So why don't you just present yourself as, you know, a certain type of way? He goes like, you know. He's like, you don't got to be, you don't got to be a thug no more. Yeah, so he wants to change the image up a little bit. You know, he's trying to catch, you know, a lot of people's attention. Not just, not just, you know, like, like, hood fame. I told him, I'm not cutting my hair. Because when he came out of jail, he didn't like when he cut his hair and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Because maybe it's a test. What if Kodak's telling you to cut your hair, but then if you cut your hair, he's going to be like, oh, you're a bitch. You did what I said. I mean, when I look. That's the thing with Kodak, you never know what's up with him. That's why I said when I was on FaceTime, he don't get to the point, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, what do you really want from him?
Starting point is 00:03:51 When he told you to go to his crib, did you think there was a chance that he was going to kill you? I didn't, I mean, okay, I thought about this way. I was like, that was a good question. No, no, you don't even kill you, but like just something weird might happen. Like, who knows what could happen? Yeah, set me up because he wanted to link up right away. Right. And that was it called?
Starting point is 00:04:07 And I'm like, why is he hitting me up? You know what I mean? And then what's it called? I've done business with his homeboy. Like, Wizzy? That's a piece of whiz. That's why I'm not going to talk about no, no, what business we did we did together. But I kind of did some, you know, some green stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:22 But I told Koda about it. He goes like, I ain't even chirping. They know who. My brother was locked up with Wayne. We asked someone if they know code that person, like, now. You feel me? And they say, yeah, he'd be with his lawyer about, like, 80% of the time. If he's not, he's chilling.
Starting point is 00:04:36 He just came out of jail. He's paranoid. He don't really, he don't want to go to jail. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he got pardoned by Trump. He's chilling. You know what I mean? So he's got blessed.
Starting point is 00:04:44 He's trying to change, you know, for the better. You're not trying to be a thug in the streets and stuff like that. Even though. He's got the image, but, you know, he's just, you feel me? you know, he's trying to go up. That's interesting. He sees the potential, though. He sees the potential in you.
Starting point is 00:05:01 That's really interesting. He knows we're going to be big. See, Cody is big already, but it's not, like, I talked to my phone. He said, I fought with you. He's like, why you got a 17 in the middle of your four? I said, I don't know. And he was like, you know, I said, that's a spiritual number. He's like, you know, you know what I believe in?
Starting point is 00:05:16 He's like, I'm like, no. He's like, I believe in spirituality too. He's like, look, look, he flits the camera, and he shows, he's like, is a 17 right there, too. That's when I was with him, man. You know me? I was FaceTime. So I'm like, this is weird. And I told my homeboys, I'm like, man, he's cracked out.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I'm like, I don't think he's cracked out. I think he's chosen. You know what I'm saying? Like, definitely, he's smart. Like, you know what I'm saying? Why do you have that 17 there? Oh, spiritual reasons. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:40 It means I'm on a good path. A lot of people say I copied X. I didn't even know X had it until I, until I got it. And everyone was like, yo, you copied X. I didn't know X had 17. I would have never got it if I knew X got it. But respect to X though. I like X, but not his music.
Starting point is 00:05:54 music and nothing like that. He's not my style. You didn't get into the music? No, he's a cool guy though. We was locked up around that time. Like we went to like juvenile like you know like programs like prisons for juvenile. I feel like so we wasn't around for like the little P. X. You were locked up that whole time for a couple years there. Two years. We went to a juvenile ground. That's what we call. It's like 2015, 2016, 2017, around that time. That's when they were coming up. We wasn't around. Okay. So when X died, I was locked up. I heard he died. I'm like, damn. He died in Broward. You know, we're in Palm Beach. We're right on top. Yeah, I think it's sad that people killed him
Starting point is 00:06:26 because they were jealous and stuff like that. Like being a rapper, you gotta watch out because people will try to, you know, hurt you. Yeah, definitely. Especially where we're from. He was moving around too freely, you know, with all that cash on him. You got crazy-ass savages out there with no money.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And he was in his city. And his city and with no security and stuff like that. You got to watch out and Broward. Yeah. Yeah. And he was out. So, okay, let's talk about you guys's early days, though. So you guys are identical twins?
Starting point is 00:06:54 Fraternal. Fraternal, okay. Yeah. What was it like growing up? Talk about your early days or what your parents were like. I'm sure everybody's up there's fascinated like me. Well, my dad died at like an early age from a heart attack. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:10 So we didn't have a dad growing up. Like he died around five, six. So my mom was a single mom. You know, she just normal single mom still. She struggled a lot, but she tried to make us have like a good. life like she loved us and stuff like that mom you know mom's a Cuban lady if you don't know how Spanish uh Spanish uh Spanish uh moms are they're very loving they're tough but the love is real so what's it called like you know um just just coming up with no guidance like no dad and stuff
Starting point is 00:07:40 like that it's kind of like you know you kind of need a dad growing up because you know rules and stuff like that we didn't follow no rules we wasn't we wasn't listening to nobody we didn't we didn't have a father figure growing up so we was out here wild and stuff like that once we jump Like we jumped on our own type thing Like yeah our mom She made sure that we had a roof Everything like what's required But you feel me like
Starting point is 00:08:01 Even the police know Like police back in our city They knew that our mom could have control us Like nobody could be out of control She did everything she could But we was out of control We just we thought we could do whatever we want And we got away with it
Starting point is 00:08:14 Because when you're a little kid You know it's like It's like slapping the risk When you get in the system You know Right And we kept doing it and doing it and doing it What kind of stuff are you getting in trouble for
Starting point is 00:08:23 burglaries, robberies. Same thing with him. Stolen cars. Stolen cars. Just having fun. Yeah, not no... I never caught drug charges. Weird.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Really? I caught a couple. For what, like pills and shit? Yeah. Oh, that's what I did? I didn't know beating it, though. Yeah, but they, I didn't actually have pills. They set up the pills in my room.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Really? Yeah. They planted them, yeah. Wow. I never had no blues, no bluesans in my room. Blue Zanz? Trust me, that time I would have took him. I've seen greens, yellows, but I never seen the blue, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I guess the little footballs. They do have blue footballs, but they have blue bars. They got those. You guys got into drugs heavy early on, or? Oh, yeah. I mean, I would say, yeah. Yeah, I would say so. Sorry, that the adlet that was too good.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah, not hard drugs, not no crack, not no men, not shooting up. But, yeah, pills. I was our big thing. I was on perks a lot. Yeah. From what age? 17. He's just like looking out like blinking and shit like it just came back to you.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Like no I did a lot of perks when I was 17 I was addicted with him. I was trying to be a rapper a lot of people doubted me so right I deal with a lot of hate and how I you know would recover from that is I would take pills um with with with with my girl and him are in the same crib in a very in a poverty environment you know what I'm saying but uh you know Yeah, I'm not a lie. I used to take like six a day. Wow. I ended up withdraw. Yeah, the tolerance was getting like overboard.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I ended up withdrawling. I had to go to hospital like three times. They're not worth it at all. Wow. Was this before you guys went into prison? This was after. After. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:10:08 See, life's a little, life's harder than when you're in, because when you're in, at least you're healthy, you know? Right. Were you guys trying to be rappers before you got locked up? See, this is the thing. I didn't really know what I was going to be. I'm so young. I was going to be.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I just wanted to be lit. You know what I would party hosts. It's like the girls and stuff like that. I was lit off Snapchat and stuff like that. And then I got locked up. And then after third month mark, fourth month, Mark, nobody gave a fuck about me. You want me to be real.
Starting point is 00:10:33 We always been popular. Yeah, we always been, kind of popular. But we, of course, we weren't, like, famous and we weren't having, like, money. Local level, yeah. Like, where we make money from just being us now, you know what I'm saying? But, like, okay, for example, when I went, when I was locked up, I had a lot of,
Starting point is 00:10:51 a lot of people were trying to be rappers. So I'm like, fuck it. I'm gonna dive into the game. And a lot of people are like, bro, you look famous already. Right. So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna give it a go. You gotta say, I was locked up with Hot Boyin on. There was like.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I saw that live. There was, there was, everybody there. They liked them because he was a rapper, not because anything else because he was a rapper. So you feel me, that made me want him to be a rapper. But were you with all the face tattoos and everything at that point when you got locked up? Like you've been having that since you were young?
Starting point is 00:11:18 No, we had a couple tattoos. I didn't have, no, I didn't, when I went, when I was locked up. I had more than him. When I was locked up, I didn't have no tattoos on my face. Okay. No, but people kept saying, bro, if you were famous, I believe it. I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:30 So I was always popping, so I'm like, if I add tattoos, can you imagine how more popping I'd be? Do you reminded them a little pump and, like, some of these people that came out of South Florida? I mean, little pump ain't got nothing to do with my style. I mean, I mean, I mean, like, I guess some people might come off like that. I get a whole bunch of different type of comparisons. But I'm me. The way how little pump grew is a lot of young people like were like, I don't know, he just came off as dumb and ignorant or whatever the case might be.
Starting point is 00:12:03 So yeah, he's got a wave, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, when they see light-skinned tattoo people with dreds. Cuban. Cuban. They're not supposed to have that. They're not supposed to have that. They're going to be like, yo, little pump, six-nine. We get six-nine.
Starting point is 00:12:17 You know what I'm saying? More six-nine. I haven't really got a little pump in a long time. but yeah um low pump but little pump but little pump i'm not even trying to go for that style you feel me like you guys kind of like light skin codex too sort of like that that's what that's what he was saying that's what coda was saying the whole time you're my twin you're my twin you're my twin you're my head he has that fucking that forehead tattoo and his home boy cycle about those too shout out cycle bob why did you get that was that inspired by codec or no i just got it because
Starting point is 00:12:46 i'm like i'm not going to put a cross on there because this is already covered up I want to to cross but I can't put this big ass cross, I can't put this big ass cross right here you know what I mean and it's just not gonna look right if I'm gonna put a face that too I'm gonna make sure it's symmetrical and everything's my face so I'm like a bird is gonna look symmetrical like it's just bold and it just sticks out and everyone's gonna
Starting point is 00:13:08 see it for sure yeah so I got it so you guys are locked up and you decided to become rappers while you're in there and what was that environment like you're talking about hot boy being there you just got or just getting put on to mad shit learning about all this stuff. So basically when I was locked up, I was probably one of the only people in a dorm
Starting point is 00:13:25 that did not want to be a rapper that knew how to rap, they knew how to freestyle, but didn't care. You see everybody, by the way, I don't write my music, I freestyle. When I'm in studio, straight freestyle,
Starting point is 00:13:35 straight what I'm vobbing off of, whatever I feel like on the mic, right? So you see everybody riding down on their pads, like on their paper, like trying to make a whole bunch of songs. They made like 20 songs after they get out, whatever. And they say they want to be a rapper,
Starting point is 00:13:48 but I never really care. be a rapper and then I come out and I'm like the only I get all tatted up and I'm like man the only thing that's that's good for me is either robbing or or which is not good and then was it called or rapping and then I took the positive route right and it worked out how are you guys doing in that environment though is you got to be around all kinds of gangsters and crazy ass street dudes in in jail right oh in jail I mean jail is not jail is not it's not look it's dangerous as what people make it seem look of course yeah your heart is and be beating when you first get in there, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:14:22 But once you're comfortable, you adjust, everyone adjust, you feel me? But it all depends on you. I think it's more dangerous out here in the streets. Yeah. Because there's guns. I mean, I'm not, it's real life. Yeah, you're going to have to fight. Yeah, I had to fight, what, like the second day I got there?
Starting point is 00:14:36 Really? But, but... What was that like? What did you have to fight over? Dumb stuff. It was really dumb. He was, I was sitting at table, he was acting friendly. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:14:45 And then, what's it called? He looked like someone I would hang out with... They'll try to try. And, like, Peter, you get locked up. They'll come, especially when you first come in. They'll try to try you. Yeah, they try to try you. Like, my first fight, I had to get into a fight because they made me fight.
Starting point is 00:14:57 You know what I'm saying? They're like, oh, I like you over him. It's called T-O-8. You got to test your heart. Yeah. People instigating like crazy. They're like, if you don't fight him, they're going to bully you your whole entire state. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Yeah, you got a fight because if you don't fight, then what's it called? They're going to bitch you up the whole time and take your food. They're going to say, hey, look, I like him over you. And you're going to get mad. And your ego is going to be like. Man, man, you feel me? You're like, no, at first you're like, I don't got to fight them because I don't got to prove none to nobody.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Right. But they're going to get on you for days. Because you can walk away in the streets. You can walk away. In prison, you really can't, right? Because, I mean, then you're just going to be abused the rest of the time. I mean, it depends who you are. They're going to take your food.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah. It depends who you are. Because in the streets, if you walk away, they're going to, you feel me, like someone like us, they're going to record it. They're going to record us and stuff like that. Like, huh, you got a bit stuff. There's a lot of phones in there even when you were locked up? No, we, we wasn't a gram.
Starting point is 00:15:48 We didn't, the only time you would get a phone if, uh, if the floor staff, the, the CEOs give you a phone. Right. You got to have your face, your face card. Once your face card is good, you could, you could fuck a staff member, you could get, uh, alcohol. You ever do that? Do you fuck any staff members? Bro, I wasn't, I wasn't tatted up or look grown enough to, to fuck a staff member, so. Maybe you should go back.
Starting point is 00:16:08 No, I don't want to go back. Get some pussy. No, I'm good. I'm good. But I know, I know, I know a couple of them. They're all, it was always the tatted up. ones that are already 18 years old and stuff like that because it was the grandma was in it was like 13 years old to 21 so it was that type of camp so the 18 years were getting in did you guys learn a lot about the streets and how shit functions while you were in there I feel like it's got to be a fast growing up process uh I I realize how kind of like how people work like especially like men like you know what I mean like we're all locked up like 40 people in one mod one dorm so like you know you got haters you got people that fuck with you you got this night it's kind of like a life thing you got to deal with
Starting point is 00:16:49 right and you just you know you got you got to do uh men being mad all the time like the testosterone and stuff like that yeah we're all so it's like a like an ego thing like no i'm better than you i'm stronger than you so it's like oh wow you can't win unless you could beat all beat them you feel me and then and florida's not really a it some people are gang bang right right but it's not as big as the west coast right is it more racial it's uh it's it's it yeah it's more racial but it's more county, like, you know, L.A. County, and then you got, like, other counties in California. It's really big on county. Like, how he hears big on gangs. What's it called? In Florida, they're big on counties. Like, oh, I'm from Palm Beach. Well, I'm from Broward. So what's up?
Starting point is 00:17:29 Because some counties are beefing with each other. In jail, not in the hours, but in jail, they're beefing with each other. Because say if I go into Broward County and the detention center, they, that's a juvenile. They'll send me there as a punishment so I can get beat up and jump. If I'm acting really bad in Palm Beach, they're like, we're going to ship you off to Broward County. And I was sitting in confinement, they transport me to Broward and then they'll beat me up. When the Brower kids used to come in, we used to beat them up. Straight rides. You have to. But it's not like that no more. Last time I went in there when I was 17 about turn 18. They got calmer. Yeah, when I was 17 about turn 18, I got popped off on by some Brower jig because I made fun of him
Starting point is 00:18:05 or whatever case. I didn't even know it was going to happen. I was watching TV and he just come right behind me and punches on me to side of the face. I'm like, I couldn't even get my hits in me. And then that same, that same kid that you talk. He knocked his tooth out because he came in right after. He came to my face. When in a dining hall, I violated probation. Like what?
Starting point is 00:18:20 Like a week after you? Just still sitting in there to wait to go to his gram, right? And then I'm like, I've been done this. This post-commitment, post-probation after I get out of my gram, I'm on probation. So I violate, I'm like, I've been done this. They did two years and everything. So I'm like, you know, I came out big. Now I'm skinny because, you know, all the weed us.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Were you guys locked up all the same time? Like, you got. Went into the same? All right. Was there much time where one of you was on the streets alone? And was that your only time, like, not being around each other? Have you guys been around each other your whole life? So we've been around each other our whole life, but he went through the same thing.
Starting point is 00:18:53 But we went through the same thing. Like, yeah, now it's kind of different, you feel me, because now I got a kid, you feel me? So it's like different. And plus we got our life together a little bit, so we don't be. Yeah, we kind of got our separate lives a little bit. But when it comes to work, yeah, we work together. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah, I'd be seeing your kid, too. And my girl, she likes y'all family. and stuff like that says you got a cute daughter that's tight i forgot i forgot her name parker parker parker mac there we go yeah yeah so okay you guys get out of prison or jail and then you decided to start going hard with the rap shit or had you already put out rap videos before that so i was i came out of jail down bad like nobody wanted to help me like i didn't come from like a rich family you know what i mean i didn't get my gd uh in the uh graham so since i didn't get my gd because i was just too busy like fucking off and stuff like that and i was working the kitchen
Starting point is 00:19:42 and I wanted to just eat, eat, eat, right? So what's it called? Like, when I come out, I'm like, I'm going to go to high school and, you know, fuck all these bidsies and have fun, like, live the high school life, and then it was not what it is. I have a whole bunch of haters when I come out because I get tatted up, right? Second day I come out, right? So what's it called?
Starting point is 00:19:58 I'm in high school. I'm in high school. You know, not in high school comes to with neck tattoos and one face tat. But that didn't make you lit? That made you have beef with people? I mean, people hate on me for no reason. I mean, someone called them a, you feel me, a fuckniggin' then what's it called he got suspended because he was trying to fight him and
Starting point is 00:20:15 the teacher locked the door and he was in the door turning up like knocking on the door and stuff like that and they suspended him so the next day I had to fight for him again again because remember I popped off on a Broward kid because for him but what's it called like and then and then he come up to me in the dining hall and then what's it called I'm tagging I'm tagging the kid in the cafeteria in high school and what's it called and I'm on probation post-commission probation and I'm tagging them and stuff like that and then says I'm beating him His older brother comes in and starts jumping me and the sister start yanking my hair and starts trying to pull my hair They're on top of the table trying to fucking kick no I'm not gonna lie it's a funny video
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah you got that video well I don't got the video but people posted it's hidden Yeah because people don't want to people don't want to show me tagging he was beating the one kid up I'm not like he was beating him all he got saying he just came out of jail so he could fight and we're talking about kids Unhealthy and stuff like that he's in high school beating him up but they're too fat Motherfuckers yeah they're big so they're in the football team Another one comes in and starts tagging him the same way too. So he's probably two people at the same time. And then one, the girls started coming, and that's when shit got cut.
Starting point is 00:21:19 No, it was funny. It was funny, though. I was, I was pressed. I was mad. The cop is grabbing me. I had my shirt off. I'm going down the courtyard. I'm pissed off.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I'm like, I'm about to violate probation. I kept it a secret. I didn't tell my probation officer. I'm suspended and stuff like that. But the principal told, the principal and my mom told me, because they sat right in front of me when I'm getting suspended for the fight. They're like, they're like, I don't think. high school is for you what's it called you already been through enough you already been done this you
Starting point is 00:21:46 you know what i mean you you look different you feel me yeah it's just not for you so i i suggest you to go to alternative school or something like that i said i'm like no i'm not going to attorney school because then i'm going to really violate because the turn to school is worse kids yeah they'll definitely try to fight too yeah so so so that so that being said there's a lot of haters in our in our county yeah you know what I mean. I've been hated even before a clout. So yeah. So now my city, I love my city. Like it's a beautiful place. I wish I could like go around it and enjoy it, go to the beach because I live in Palm Beach, you feel me? You got to keep a gun. You got to keep a gun anywhere you go. A lot of people, a lot of people be hating on me like, so. It's real. Like they try to blackball me from my own
Starting point is 00:22:24 city. Like they try to say, oh, he's not a rapper or he's trying to lower my image, how to betray and so like that like something I'm not. Who's trying to blackball you? Who has the power? Oh, everyone. I mean, so, okay, the attention that I got right now compared to every rapper, because there's a rapper called Jail Samma. I don't know if you knew who he was. He ended up getting killed or whatever the case might be.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And he had a baby coming. And he had a baby coming. And they still killed him. They hated on him and they killed him. But in our city. He had a lot of people knowing who he was. He was probably going to make it. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:22:56 Me, I kind of like, I got a lot of, like, I don't like to say like I got a lot of clower, a lot of fame. I don't really care about that. But a lot of people know who I am, you know what I'm saying? So like, and then people just try to, you know, brush, oh, oh, oh, he's not even. We don't claim him. We don't claim him. He's not from Palm Beach.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Oh, those twins, pussy. Like, they make up stories. It's not even true. But we're the ones that put, we're the ones that put on for Palm Beach the most. Instead of like, because, instead of like coming behind me and patting me in the back, hey, bro, keep doing you, bro, I know you got a lot of haters, you feel me? Like, bro, we need someone like you to make it in this city, you feel me? Instead of doing that, you feel me, power me up.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Like they do like and it's really has to come from because I'm all tatted up. I'm, you know, I'm not, I'm not black. You feel me? I got face tattoos. They think I'm ignorant. You feel me? And you talk to shit. They think that I'm, you know, whatever they want to think, culture, whatever the case might be or whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:45 But man, I'm Cuban. I've been through it. I was in the water. I was in the mud. You didn't what I'm saying? Right. So like, you feel me? But they just say, they just, they, anything, it'll be anything.
Starting point is 00:23:54 They just try to make me seem like something I'm not. Is it part because you guys, I guess. guess in the past of like claim to be gang members and stuff? It's got something to do like, um, uh, even before that. Yeah, but it's got something to do with like, yeah, we did some dirt in our city and stuff like that, but like it's like, it's like, it's not to everyone, but like get over. Like everyone knows each other and stuff like that. But yeah, we did some dirt and stuff like that, but.
Starting point is 00:24:16 But were you going around saying you were gang members before you were formally, like, actually accepted by the gang? Are there people who feel like you were false claiming what they're a part of? Um, what's it called? Uh, a lot of, a lot of people think that, what's it called that we, We false claim, but a lot of bloods always fucked with us and stuff like that. I never really cared about like, about game banging and stuff like that. You understand?
Starting point is 00:24:35 I never care about game banging. Yeah, except for when I started getting, when I started becoming a rapper, I had a lot of bloods hit me up. Yeah. And said, hey, look, you're, hey, look, we want to initiate, we want to, like, put you a part of us. Put you a part of us. So I'm a teach you the knowledge. Right. But, uh, but you're like, how do I explain?
Starting point is 00:24:52 We're not, we're not beating you up. Even, but I'm, I'm going to let you know everything to know, like, if you were a blood. You feel me? So I'm like, okay, so what did I make me? He's like, oh, you blood, you this, you that, you tell him you this, that's your tag, you feel me? I'm like, I'm like, okay. And then I was like, all right, whatever, you feel me? Because I already, you know, I got blood tattoos, so I'm like thinking, like, what, I got to be a blood?
Starting point is 00:25:12 You feel me? Because if I make it, I don't want people to be like, yo, why you got all this stuff? And you feel me? By the way, blood tattoos is just having a five-point crown is, like, if you had a three-point crowns of, this is blood-related. This is blood-related. But really, they could just mean as a star. are like I you feel me but if someone if they if a gang member thinks you look like a dog you feel me like you're someone like a dog they're gonna be like so what is that you tell them you're
Starting point is 00:25:37 like nah that's not what it is you are you really a blood you feel me so yeah you kind of have to watch out what you tattoo it sounds like you're kind of like halfway in where like you acknowledge it's a gang tattoo but then you also don't really want to have to answer for it no but he didn't get he didn't get a tattoo uh because it's supposed to be a blood tattoo because i wanted to be a blood you got he got he got stars on his he got stars on his face Because stars is like a big five point, you know what I mean? Look, because he likes stars. Look, I got a star on my nose.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I got stars everywhere. Just, I got a star on my nose because I know I'm a star. You feel me? It's just like little things like that, why I got tattoos and stuff like that. But if there were any bloods watching who wanted to put you on, you would be down. We don't really, we don't, we know, that's the thing. We know, we know, we know bloods that always try to put us down in this and that. We don't, we're not really caring to.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I don't really care to be a blood. Yeah, we're not really caring about about, about a crib. I don't want to be known. That would be crazy story But I don't got no problems with no Crips and everything like that For sure It's probably easier to just stay out of it
Starting point is 00:26:35 I feel like You don't need to I don't got to be in a gang life We're from Florida You don't need a game bang to be You can make your own thing You can you know what I'm on my type of time I know look I know my value
Starting point is 00:26:48 I know who I am I don't have to be a gamer Like I know I make money Without being in a gang You feel me We registered as a game member Like sheriffs they pull us over and they put our name,
Starting point is 00:26:58 we're registered as a game member. They have codes and all that once they run our name and stuff like that. But we're not really into, we're not really into that. If we step on, we stand on what we stand on, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:07 Right. Which is like, you know, like, I really just want to be a rapper. I want to make it, that's all. Which is our names, disrespecting my brother, disrespecting me. The other shit,
Starting point is 00:27:16 I'm not really caring too much, but I'm gonna keep real. You tell me, oh, you're, oh, you're a fake blood, this, that I don't really, I don't really, I don't really, I don't really,
Starting point is 00:27:23 Like, that's shit on bad. For sure. So you guys get out, you go back to high school, then how does that turn into you actually rapping and making music videos? I only did two weeks in high school, got kicked out, right? And that was called, I didn't violate. But I told my, I told, because I had a kind of like cool PO, you know what I mean? So what's it called?
Starting point is 00:27:44 I told him pretty soft. So, okay, I'm going to get my GD so I can finesse it a little bit. What's it called? Couldn't do that. I get, I'm trying to like act like I get my GD. By the way, I've never been smart in school because I never wanted to focus in school. You understand what I'm saying? I never cared to even focus in school or do my homework or anything like that because I wanted to get money.
Starting point is 00:28:04 You know what I'm saying? So what's it called? So I'm finessing the whole time while I'm on probation. I pay my institution. And then what's it called? I get off probation like for some reason. I don't know how. I would like $5,000 left get out probation.
Starting point is 00:28:17 And then what's it called? I turned 18. My mom kicks both of us out of the crib. What were you doing this shit to kick you out? It's one of those things, man. We put it through hell. It was one of those things, like, we would still have cops knocking on the door every morning detectives talking about, oh, we're investigating your son for a robbery case.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Right. Or do you know who this is, which is so called my friend, but I'm like, I'm not going to say nothing because they're like, you know who he is. I know you know who is. I'm like, nah, what's it called? But when you keep doing things that, when you keep doing things that is completely opposite from what you're supposed to be doing, you know, the person is. and you keep going on with it.
Starting point is 00:28:53 She got tired of her. You act like a man, you're going to be treated like one. You guys call with your mom now? Oh, yeah. Of course. I helped her out. Nice. I had to be homeless a couple times.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I had to live with my baby mama. She, thank God I was blessed to have a girl to take care of me. She believed in me. I knew I was going to be somebody. That's what's up. She had it down front. But we were just talking about it right before, right before when we walked in this building,
Starting point is 00:29:20 We hit rock bottom so many times, but it's like we laugh about it now because like, you know what I mean? Like you learn from it and stuff like that. And we was young. Right. So, you know what I mean? We didn't have a, we didn't have like a big selection, you know what I mean? Because we were on probation getting told you got to get a job or you'll violate. I walk in a place, try to get a job.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I couldn't get a job because I had face tattoos, you feel me? I had the type of energy and young, wild and stuff like that. They're like, we're not going to make them work, especially in Florida. I don't want to work a job. That's like normal people's stuff, you know? Like, listen, I respect the job thing in everything. thing because I rather you make money than be broke you feel me I've had a job before but out the way not in my city you can catch me no job yeah because that's like number one way that somebody could catch you
Starting point is 00:30:01 right exactly problems with people but and even with that job I was still hitting because while I was doing it I was going I was coming up doing a live thing you know and I would go to the back and I would just you feel me just um grind was Instagram live a big part of you guys coming up that you just ended up going on there blowing up and beefing with people all crazy yeah famous people could join famous people could join you like it's just when you got it all you could take advantage of the live like it's simple
Starting point is 00:30:28 like I looked at it like it was a platform even though I never wanted to come in as a person to beef with you want to come in as a rapper you're a respectful one but then you would just end up adding like random gang members who would start screaming at you right that's the thing that's the thing when I would go on live you feel me knowing our personality back then not really now
Starting point is 00:30:44 you feel me I'd be hotheaded and I just yell back and it would get views you feel me and it'll go viral so I'm like And for some people, it got us a lot of haters. It got people pressed, which is cool because it kind of made us. You know what I mean? It's just the internet thing, right? But they don't understand that we just, we just, like, young.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Like, we just, you know, I know I'm talented. They could say I'm not talented. I'm very talented. And I'm just trying to make music. You know, just trying to come up and just trying to make a standpoint and stuff like that. But yeah, I have like a personality too, not just music. So when on the live, your personality shows, because you're not putting out music. You're talking with your, you know, with conversation.
Starting point is 00:31:22 So, yeah, we got hot-headed a couple of times, like, no-chill type vibes. But that's really me. I'm not acting on-law. I'm not acting on-law. Like, when I get mad at someone, like, we get mad for real, yeah. That's because you're talking shit, so I'm like, you know, I just talk bad. But we never came on the live. We're like, oh, we just want to beef automatically.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Like, we have people that just, like, come at us for no reason. But really now it's starting to become, like, you know, when you start doing things for too long, you get, it gets tiring, you feel. You get too old. Right. So did you guys get your Instagrams deleted because of the lives? My Instagram again. He never got deleted. Oh, you never did. I don't know why my Instagrams. I was being paranoid and cautious by my Instagram. But when I see the Instagram lives, you guys screaming at people, just basically two people screaming at each other being like, I'm going to shoot you. And then I'm like, yeah, that'll definitely get your Instagram live.
Starting point is 00:32:09 But every time I got banned. No, really? You're chirping. That's not. That doesn't get deleted. That's not how my lives go. Really? I don't talk like I'm going to do. You feel me? It's like other people telling you that they're going to kill you. No, when I go on live, I like to outsmart people. I like to strategize it. So I'm not going to talk to you crazy. I'm like, really?
Starting point is 00:32:26 You're not going to make it? I'm like, really? So what make you think that? Yeah, we don't go on live and talk about we're going to shoot people. You don't do that. I like to get under people's skin. But people do do that. But I'm not going to threaten you.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I'm not going to talk. Yeah, you can get deleted. I know. I know you get deleted. I couldn't believe you told a hot boy that he wasn't running shit in the jail. Oh, no. Well, I'm telling the truth, though. I'm not, but you see, I'm not lying.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Right. He was running, he was running his dorm, but he wasn't running the whole, the whole facility. Like, I, I personally never, like, he never came up to me and ran me. That's like, that's like, and the only reason why I joined sides, because the day before on a story, he put on a journal saying that, oh, I was running shit in my gram and still like that. Right. You feel me? Which, my homework came up to him and tried to fight him one time.
Starting point is 00:33:08 He didn't really want to fight. He had his, he had his crash dummy, which is that's someone that he makes fight. You feel me? beat him pop off on him you feel me which his crash dummy was fighting a lot for him
Starting point is 00:33:22 I felt bad when I brought that up on his interview and he didn't want to talk about it His response was kind of but he was kind of on it for like two hours on the line He was making me sleep a little bit
Starting point is 00:33:32 He posted a story about it Look he's like Who's that? I don't know what his response was It's kind of like Okay even if you don't want to like talk about me Or you want to make it seem like I'm a nobody At least come with a response
Starting point is 00:33:43 You know what I'm saying? Like at least like not like the fat I don't know some I know what you're talking Look I'm not gonna lie look when a hot boy look when you got golds in your mouth and stuff like that and you young like 16 It's not no beef I don't really I don't got no problem he's actually cool you feel me He was actually like like out of a lot of rappers at a lot of rappers that we that we probably got into it He was actually one of the at least he didn't say man I could beat you up yeah you if you keep it's cool if you watch it's live yeah He was just laughing he was laughing he played it cool I'll give it to him you know what I'm saying But that's why I'm like, okay, you know what?
Starting point is 00:34:16 I'm going to leave him alone. Because a lot of rappers really care about their image really, really bad. Pop boy was so cool and chill when he was in here. But, I mean, I've watched these YouTube videos about his legal situation and stuff. And I'm like, whoa. He's going through a lot. He'd be doing a lot of, the city he's from, the city he's from, he's from Orlando. And he was associated with Glott Nine that they were known as really, really stepping on.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Crazy shit between them. No, Orlando will be getting down for sure. It's like, and the Graham, if you were from Orlando, like, well, my gram, if you were from Orlando, they're fading. They'll fight. Yeah, they're on that. Yeah. Most of the Orlando kids that were locked up in our ground, they were on. You got to watch out with them.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Are you guys taking sides in the Jacksonville gang war? Like, in Dubai or ATK or KTA? Yeah. I met some like fucking 30-year-old women from Jacksonville the other day, and I was like, oh, you KTA or AT? They looked at me like, what? They had no idea what I was talking about. They were like normal. I mean, that has nothing to do with us.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Who side you got? Uh-oh. No, really, no, really. Making a pick? What's it called? I think, I think it's real lame to beef with someone that he doesn't even know in real life. Look, I don't know. So young and Aces is like, probably like, what are you beefing with me for?
Starting point is 00:35:32 Look, the thing with Folio is I've been watching his come up. You did what I'm saying? I already knew a whole thing. And it's not really damn much different to mine other than he's a black kid. You get what I'm saying? He's a black kid, and he's from Jacksonville. And I don't know, a couple other things that is, he's in the culture. But you beef with Fulio on Live before, right?
Starting point is 00:35:52 But I wasn't trying to beef with him. He was beefing with me. He made up a lie and said I snitched on paperwork that never showed it to belittle my image. So when I joined a live, his energy was kind of off. I joined his live, he was going viral. I was like, hey, bro. It's weird because I had joined his live a long time ago, like in the beginning of me, coming up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:36:13 And we was broke down bad. Yeah, I had, I had like the curly hair. I had less face tattoos. I probably had like three face tattoos max. He was cool. I was on acid. I was chipping off assy. Be it from a folio.
Starting point is 00:36:23 No, no, no, no. No, this was before. And we was on loud. He goes like, hey, bro, he goes like, you look lit. He goes like, you look lit and stuff like that. But then I got in his live like now with the wicks and the, and the, and the, and the tattoo in the middle of my forehead, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:36:38 And what's it called? And he goes like, man, you call that, you call that this, that dicks are. Like this and I'm like, damn, he's talking to shit. He wasn't feeling that. He posted me on a story one time, like me with a gun like this with all the other photo rappers. And then I thought he was great. And then you feel me?
Starting point is 00:36:51 Now I'm all wicked up. No curls. Yeah. Not a pretty boy. He tried to call me a light skin and tatted ass pretty boy. And I'm like, how come he didn't tell Ennellie chopper that? I mean, I don't know. Why didn't he tell Enali chopper that?
Starting point is 00:37:05 Is it because he's in your circle? But you really don't like light skin and tatted people. You feel me? Right. Well, you're a different. how light skin than choppa no i understand yeah yeah but but hey if you want to get technical an elite chopper is a tatted light skin pretty boy yeah but he's clean though you understand what i'm he's like no homo bus you feel me you feel me he got like seamos and all this shit too though
Starting point is 00:37:26 no no he's doing too he's spiritual his skin is clear yeah he's got he's got all these tattoos now he looks different he's like a you know like yeah girls will like him you do what i'm saying he got the glow um he got the glow you do what I think you guys are stars I think you guys are stars too. It's just like, I appreciate that. It depends. It's interesting when I realize that like Kodak sees it. I don't let me tell you something. I'm not like the way he was talking to me when I first met him, it motivated me and it just made me look at myself like, look at how is supposed to me. I had a dream of Ennly Chavez. No, no, not I don't know. Not like that. No, I don't know. No. Like, bro, I'm telling you, when I manifest, things come for real.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Right. I manifested Kodak to be my homeboy, but he met up with him. But I don't really know. I I told Kodat too about a dream and he acted weird about it. Really? I swear to God. Him and Psycho were in my dream. Whoa. Like, and my girl, she woke up on time. She's like, yo, Kodaz was in my dream being your homewood, but y'all weren't talking.
Starting point is 00:38:23 You were just flexing like, you know, doing you on live. You feel me? Or whatever the case might be. But yeah, he ended up meeting with him and stuff like that. You pissed off that you weren't invited to this meet and greet. I could. I could have wet with me. I could have, but I decided not to go.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I have family. But that's not, I'm not worried about that. I know my vet. I know I'm going to be big. You know, I'm not going to be famous. But, yeah. Yeah, but it was one of those things. There's nothing wrong with dreaming about other people and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Yeah, I was just fucking around. Oh, yeah, see, I'll be time people. I don't really care. I don't really care. You got to understand just how people dream of. I take the rap game series. Yeah, you got to understand. Just how people dreamed of being, you know, what they want to be.
Starting point is 00:39:04 We always dreamed of being, you know, a successful rapper. But I was going to say about Emily Choppers, what he's doing now. He's younger to me. Even though he looked big, but he's huge. He's huge. He's huge. Yeah, yeah. Who?
Starting point is 00:39:14 He's like a basketball player. He's younger to me, but I'm going to say, but I'm going to say one thing, though. That spiritual thing he's doing, I've been doing that off camera. Yeah, we've been spiritual. So I can relate to him a little bit. And people like say, oh, you, on TikTok, you look like Enelie Chavez or would you beat Enelie Chavez's ass where the case might be. Really don't have no problem with Eni Tchap at all, you feel me? Like I can relate to him.
Starting point is 00:39:33 That spiritual thing he's going through? I've been sun gazing. I've been open up and I'm woke. That sun gazing. that sun gazing where you let the sun touch you and stuff like that you feel me it's real though because the sun gives you messages about yourself you close your eyes and you you you take part like 30 minutes of sun gazing
Starting point is 00:39:51 and stuff like that look at yourself in the mirror and then you know you take your shower work out do whatever you're gonna uplift yourself as a person your mental health yeah it's it works yeah yeah for sure it's good for you do you feel like you guys so how do you approach rapping like like what's your mentality on it Like what style do you feel like you have? I grew up. I'm inspired by Lil Wayne, a young boy. Yeah, a lot of people say I sound like I sound like young boy in some songs and then what's it called?
Starting point is 00:40:21 I got my own style. But you just went viral pretending to be young boy on TikTok, right? Yeah, I weren't viral for that. That was fucking hilarious, bro. Young boy's hard though. Yeah. But you were just doing your young boy impersonation and it was just fucking hilarious. I wasn't impersonating at all.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I did my raw voice. That's me for real. But no, Young Boy is definitely hard. He's got, he's a star. He's definitely a star. He's talented. He's number one. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:40:47 Biggest young rapper for sure. Yeah, he's a legend. The only rapper's bigger than him. A living legend. Drake. No, listen, I know about the rap game. I did a lot of research. Yeah, no one's got, young boys type of, uh, he's got the best image.
Starting point is 00:41:00 He's got the best melodic sound. Everyone's trying to be like him. They don't like him. They're hating. He's got like the craziest fans. When it came to rap and you decided you wanted to do. going more of a melodic style rather than... That's what I'm comfortable at.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I'm not a... He basically trying to say, we're not... A bubub-bub-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b. I'm versatile. Say if I get signed, say if I get signed and they tell me I got to do some type of like drill rap or something like that. Right, drill's big now.
Starting point is 00:41:27 But then there's also the melodic stuff that's big. Yeah, but I like doing what I like to do. I got a voice. So why would I do drill and I got a voice? So I could do all that in those basic beats, because to me that's basic beats. And I'll have my voice on there. But why can I show off my voice, you know, and have the melodic sound?
Starting point is 00:41:41 I'm into the melodic sound because it's soothing, you feel me? You guys go hard with the auto tune as well. Autotune could go hard. I love Autotune because, listen, Autotune is not that easy. I've heard people rapping tootune. They still can't write. Oh, yeah. Just because Autotune is auto tune.
Starting point is 00:41:55 You got to learn how to be melodic with the auto tune. But it feels like you guys use so much auto tune that sometimes I can't even tell what words you're trying to say. Wait, hold up. I don't use too much auto tune. I sound like I have automatic auto tune. It's called harmonizing. Look, I can do it. I say, Jill without my nine, they like money when you shine.
Starting point is 00:42:12 You'd play that out of line. I'm a fuck it from a span. You didn't seen it okay while then you play it with his fad. Yeah, so I already sound like I have auto tune. I kind of feel like it sounds better without autotune. People tell me that out of time. But that's your style. See everyone's different style.
Starting point is 00:42:25 But I guess I got to give the fans what they want. I just think I sound harder in the studio when I put some type of mix into it. I don't know. Interesting. Yeah, I don't really care for the raw thing. I feel like, soldier, you in particular, you seem like you don't even really want to rhyme. Like you kind of avoid, you avoid rhyming. You've been listening.
Starting point is 00:42:41 No, I'm into my voice more than rhyming. I feel like as his brother, I feel like I should, I should, I should, I should, I should be the one to tell him that he should rhyme. Okay. Yeah. Tell him. Or do you, do you think that? I think he should rhyme. Oh.
Starting point is 00:42:58 But is that just something you don't even give a fuck about? I really don't give a fuck. That's kind of old school, right, rhyming? He still gets, he still gets, he's not. It's because I know, I know, I know how much potential I got. Yeah. Yeah, he's got the vocals, he's got the voice, got the image and everything like that. He gets the numbers.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I think he should try more on the bars. That's my opinion. Okay. As a song I don't think about it, when I go in, when I rap, it's because I like the way how I sound. You feel me? Okay, I sound good. I sound good rhyming. I saw some people saying that you're the looks and you're the rapping talent.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Do you agree with that or do you think that's wrong? I see that like, because to me you look kind of almost the same. Not a lot, but he's funny. I mean, not like, you don't like that. different is pretty close. I don't know if that's true though, but yeah. You're trying to say I'm not the looks? I'm just saying I heard somebody say that and I was like, oh, that's how they view
Starting point is 00:43:48 these guys, that's what they think it is? Like one guy's the looks, one guy's the rapper? I've never seen anyone say the looks or a rapper, but I have seen people say that I rap better. Okay. Yeah, but I don't know. Are you guys competitive musically? Do you feel like you're competing?
Starting point is 00:44:03 No. Musically, no. Okay. No. Are you competitive on other things? Girls? Money. Money, money, money.
Starting point is 00:44:10 We took it. We took it. We took it. We took, we're taking my girls, but it used to be girls. But I feel like I just got trying. No, no. Now it's, yeah, it's money and it's, uh, who gets, who gets the most attention? Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Yeah, I'm not really competitive about attention. We both get attention. Mm. Yeah. Everywhere you go. It's like impossible not to get attention, I'm assuming. Okay, but people make it like that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:33 For example, we was on a, okay, so we came here. We came here by driving, right? And we came with our homeboy. You said you drove? Yeah, we drove. Yeah. You didn't want to hop on a plane? No, because I lost, last time I came to L.A., I lost my ID, and then what's it called?
Starting point is 00:44:48 And then I flew out so many times that was it called that they denied access every time I say I don't have my ID. I have not had the time to get my ID. Right. So we had to drive. Okay. Because they were not allowed. Yeah, but so, for example, when we're in public, we're two different people. Like, I know I'm tatted.
Starting point is 00:45:04 I know I look, I look a certain. way. So when I walk in a gas station, I'm going to try to look as proper as I could. You feel me? I'm going to put my shorts up and, you know, I'm going to act something opposite than what I am so the person don't give me a hard time because it weren't 20, 21, they're still doing that. You feel me? So we still got people discriminating and so like that. Yeah, I was, we was in 10. And I admit it, I do look crazy. And if I look, if I, if I admit that I look crazy, then people, regular people know I just. We stopped at a couple places in Texas and I'm like, man, look, listen, please don't go there with me.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Yeah, you can tell the races. So, like, yeah, he was, he's a hot head. Right. So when every time he would go to the gas station, they knew, like, like, they were telling him, pick your pants. Like, he don't care. He would walk in, whatever. But like, me on the other, I don't want no problems. I don't want you to talk to me.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I'm going to zoom right through you, you, feel me? I'll be money my own business. And I'm anti-socials. I guess. But my homeboy kept dick riding him so much because he's like, bro, you get a lot of attention. like bro like bro i mean well you're kind of bringing it to yourself you feel me but like yeah i don't know there are a lot of people who you feel like are kind of like dick riders they want to like be around you for social media yeah we stay away from those people okay yeah yeah it's fake love you just reminded
Starting point is 00:46:18 me that one time i got uh told that i had to pull my pants up at a at a cecy's pizza i didn't i don't know you sag yeah no i was like we're on a long road trip and i just had gym shorts on and the fucking owner the cec's pizza comes up to me he's like we got a complaint from a customer about your butt showing and i'm like I'm like, I'm in here eating my $4 pizza like everybody else. The fuck. So, did you get mad? I wasn't mad.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I pulled my pants up. Oh, you did? Yeah. I guess because I get told so many times to pick up my pants. Yeah. I mean, this is like probably the only time that's really happened to me as an adult. Sometimes my friends give me a hard time. Yeah, I use the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Right now? Yeah. Okay. Pause. I drink a lot of water. Go for it. We'll resume once you get back. Okay, here's something I wanted to ask about.
Starting point is 00:47:00 There was a whole viral thing because you had this guy, Chico, who seemed to it be, like kidnapping one of you guys or both of you guys in a video what was going on with that he didn't kidnap me he he he like tricked me and then he tried to he well he did set me up he's like he set me up um into like going to a barbershop full of uh full of bloods trying to get me uh jump because he said the bloods were um they were they were they were they were threatening them i don't know they were just a bunch of grown men like like 12 deep in the barbershop were you sign were basically like having him manage you at some point? I mean, what's it called?
Starting point is 00:47:35 It was not like no mansit. Look, we was going to be homeless if we didn't be with him. Look, he was getting money from the government. That's how we were paying the rent. You feel me, with my baby mama at the time. My big mom said, I can't do this anymore. I'm pregnant with your baby, so I'm going to fix my life. Just fix your life, and we could come back.
Starting point is 00:47:54 So we moved over to North Carolina. He hit us up way before while we was doing the Internet live and the 10,000 followers. He said, he'd been saying like, hey, listen, I fought with y'all. boys, I got y'all, like, you feel me, whatever type of thing, you feel me? So we kind of, we're like, hey, yo, we need somewhere to stay, you feel me? He's like, okay, come over here, that's when he said, I can get you a job
Starting point is 00:48:17 because at the time we weren't making money on rap, you feel me? So I could get you a job, and we're like, all right, Ben, that sounds like a plan, so we went up there with nothing really, and he helped us out. I had like $1,200 in my bank. Yeah. He helped us, he helped us get a job. He made a stay in a trailer that. Yeah, he got your job at the weed shop, right?
Starting point is 00:48:37 But then you got fired? No, no, at a vape shop. No, we quit because we got lit. No, we should, yeah, no, I couldn't do it anymore. I was only making $300 a wheat. Right. Yeah, the boss tried him, but he wasn't doing much just sitting in a chair.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Yeah, no. But he was going up, going on live. Nobody knew it. Yeah, my job, nobody would come. It was dead. You know what I was? And at me, I worked at, like, a hood corner store. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Like a bodega and stuff like that. Yeah. And I had a whole bunch of people come in and stuff, but I was still trying to go up and stuff. but I was only making $500 a week. I was making $300. Shit suck. Because I would just sit there and then.
Starting point is 00:49:07 And then I started being on my phone a lot, making a lot of business place and my boss, he was kind of like that. Hey, he, and my boss came in and he goes like, why are you always on your phone? My boss would always tell me. I made a comment, I'm like, because I make more money on my phone. And he goes, I need you to be off the phone. At the time, I was just be on live and something like that.
Starting point is 00:49:23 He's like, yeah, he's like, you know, my son watched. He's like, you're going to be big one day. You feel me? I'm like, yeah. So I was just crying on live. the whole entire time and so like that. And he didn't have no problem with it, you feel me? But he couldn't take it no more.
Starting point is 00:49:37 So it was like, he was going out of business in that shop and so like that. So then why did you dip out on the Chico? Did you just went back to Florida? So basically what happened was he had his baby, had birth already, and then what's it called? He got like a place for him and his girl
Starting point is 00:49:52 because, you know, right in the same city. Yeah, right? Look, okay. He started, he started, you know, with a new girl. You feel me? Like, and he started, He started fucking with her. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Yeah, I was with her for five months. And she lived in Virginia, so we were in North Carolina at the time. So I was alone at a trailer where they were like a bunch of like Mexicans and they would do crystal. Yeah, we lived in the trap. They would do Crystal Mad and stuff like that. So I had to, you feel me? You guys ever do that? No.
Starting point is 00:50:19 That's the good stuff. No. Okay. You're not for real, right? Yeah, I'm just fine. No. No, no. But what's called?
Starting point is 00:50:27 No. Yeah. But I was definitely in that type of environment. But I was grinding though, you feel me? So I started making money off rap. We had like 20 bands and had a little trailer. I started making money while I was rapping and so like that. Well, he had 20 bands.
Starting point is 00:50:40 And he started peeping that. You feel me? So he started becoming a hater. Yeah, so he got jealous. So one day I woke up, one day I woke up, he didn't, he didn't, I don't know why people say kidnap. He didn't kidnap me. He said, get in the car.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Yeah, he said getting, he said getting the truck. What's the call? We're going to go do something. I said, okay, yeah, we're going to go do something. Because I know when people are crazy, you feel me, I don't want my girl into it. So I know when people are crazy, I don't want him to go inside the house or anything like that. So I got in the truck with him. And when I got in the truck with him, he put like, I guess, because he had a two-door truck, like one of them, silver autos,
Starting point is 00:51:15 he had put like a lock to it or whatever. And then I'm like trying to get out to it, but it's whatever. So he took me to a barbershop. They were like 12 deep full of men. And what's it called? And what's it called talking about talking about that they, that they, that, that, they're threatening his family, that they know where he lives at, and that I need to give my address out.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Oh, wow. So he said, if I don't get my address out, he's going to have me jump by all of them. So that's why he's recording me. He's making me record and stuff like that because he's telling me that I'm going to get, I'm going to get jumped by a whole bunch of guys in the back of the tattoo and barbershop and stuff like that. So the whole time, I'm like, I'm going to run.
Starting point is 00:51:52 You feel me? Because you feel me? Like, what's going on? Right. But they kept closing in on me and stuff like that. So like, so like it was one of those things that you know, like, yeah, he started becoming weird. He became weird because he, he said he loved us and fought through us and all that, but he tried it. He's like, like, dirty in my life.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Right, because in that one clip, he's like basically just saying, you need to give me money. Yeah, and that's another, you know what? You know what? You know what? He never gave us no money. I never signed no contract to him. I'm my mother. Listen, every music video we pay for, directed.
Starting point is 00:52:22 We spent nights, uh, cold nights too, because North Carolina's cold. We're from Florida. We spent cold nights and everything like that. Studio nights. He was not there. He was with his family in the house. I already knew he was a fucked-up individual when he would come to my crib when I, like, I bought a crib there at the time. And he came all peeled out and so like that.
Starting point is 00:52:40 In front of his baby. In front of my baby. And I was pissed off about it. He tried to throw a, he tried to throw a can at me behind my baby's. A can of what? A white claw. I think he's a can of Robbieoli or something. Yeah, he's one of those guys that, like, that used to, like, that used to be like the best fighter.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Like he knows how to, I bet that's what he was, like a really, like, good fighter when he, in our age and his prime and stuff like that. And now we can't handle himself because he's old fat and, yeah. So how did you end up escaping? You had to jump out of a moving car? Yeah, I did. And just sprinted through a neighborhood. I sprinted through, I ran through the woods. I left my slides and everything.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I ran through the woods and everything like that. And then what's it called? I had my girl call Uber and everything like that. Wow. And you haven't seen the dude since? Are you worried you're going to have to deal with that still? I mean, I'm not worried about him, you understand. I'm saying. He's a 40-year-old old man, but you feel me, like to threaten my life and have
Starting point is 00:53:30 so-called sex, money, murder, uh, uh, Bloods, that's what they were claiming to be. Right, because he said that you were false claiming sex money murder Bloods. I wasn't false claiming. He just got mad because I, he just got mad because there was, there was, there was, there was big homies that, that, that wanted to fuck with us the way how he fuck with us and he didn't like it. He goes, you were not gang bang. You do not be, you know what bloods? That's not, that's, you know what I mean? You're with me. I'm your big homie. Right. You feel me? He wanted to be that, but he wanted to be that, but he got to be that, but he I just got mad because I vanished five months.
Starting point is 00:53:58 I'm with my girl. I'm getting money. What's the call? I'm doing my thing. Still rapping. And he's still doing construction. And he's mad. He can't keep in touch.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Because we used to just go to work every day. Because you got to say, I came from nothing. So when I started making money, he got jealous. I started becoming more cocky out, putting his face. I'm like, bro, I can take care of your whole family. Like trying to try. Not trying to say, I got money like now. So don't trauma me.
Starting point is 00:54:19 You feel me? And he started getting weird. He's like, you think, you think that's cool that you make money and you can't be humble about it. I'm like damn bro, just chill. I'm young, man. I'm making money. He's like, no. But but but but but then again, then again, we didn't try to like try him like I wasn't trying to like yeah, we didn't try to try me so many times when it came down to like he to when I was working to get to get a car to like go around and stuff like that which was his car at the time. He would tax me like like fucking Mercedes prices a month for an old
Starting point is 00:54:51 ass cat-a- He works he works a job. I pay $600 and his truck car. insurance. He works his job, but I just don't know how he's so broke. Yeah. He had me put some money in for his son's PS5. I said, okay, I got you. Because he couldn't afford fucking $900 for a PS5. Yeah, but it sounds like he took you in when you guys were in, you said you were going to be homeless if it wasn't for him at one point, right? Yeah. So, I mean, it does sound like, you know, you rubbing it in his face that you were making all this money. But you got to understand, you got to understand. The way how you would, the way, I paid him back, I paid him back even more. You know what I mean? For anything he
Starting point is 00:55:25 paid for I paid more at him. The way how he would act the whole entire time while we was trying to come up that's not how you act. Yeah he was you want to be respected because you're older man like you feel me like you're not supposed to be trying to like no he definitely seemed like a total psycho yeah yeah he's one of the most he's one of the most psycho guys I ever had to deal with he's not in the right mindset I feel bad for his kids I feel bad for his baby mama I feel bad for anybody that lives in the house with him I feel bad that's anybody that's associated with him I feel bad that anybody that has to call him a friend because the man is totally
Starting point is 00:55:59 crazy he's not he's not he's not in the right mindset but if look one thing about me is listen I understand what he did for me I don't I don't like that's why I said he still calls me talking about he loves me and then wants to argue that's why I'm like okay
Starting point is 00:56:12 but if if you wanted to be my homeboy like that's why I don't get some people like why do you want to like try me and think you could be my homeboy right after you could have been cool the whole entire time and then when I'm enjoying life we could be homeboys Yeah, the man literally, the man literally, you couldn't, you couldn't hold, hold your anger. You had to let it out.
Starting point is 00:56:31 The man literally set me up. You know what I mean? You're not my, you're not my people if you're setting me up and you, and you're making me give my address out to 12, 12 so-called bloods in a barbershop. And it's a small town. It's in North Carolina. They can come to my house, whatever. And I'm a rapper. I'm on live all the time.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I'm flexing this and this. That's not cool. He's, I'm put, just, he's scared because his life is in danger. And he doesn't care if my life is in danger. Look, look. Look. Look, and that's the thing now, Adam, we have a lot of people living curiously through us now. Like, no cat.
Starting point is 00:57:00 We inspire people, man. This is the same way how we... Yeah, if he goes back at N-N-N-N-Ais, we're going to talk about this. Look, the same way how we inspired him to get a neck tattoo and stuff like that. Why did you get a neck tattoe? I was like 20 years ago, I don't remember. Yeah, we inspired this. All my homeboys now got neck tattoos.
Starting point is 00:57:16 They're not really bad. Before I had a neck tattoo, I wanted a neck tattoo so bad. I thought it was so tight. Yeah, they are tight. I've kind of, like, forgot about what it was like to really want one. but I knew I wanted one so bad that I had to get it when I was like 20. Yeah, I know, yeah, I definitely had to get out tired of. I'm not gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:57:31 What made you get your face tatted? I was just like, you know what? Fuck it, I'm getting money. I don't need a job. I'm getting my face tattoo. Yeah, yeah, committee, that's it. Yeah, basically. I was like, I'm either going to jail or I'm gonna keep doing this shit on my own, so fuck it.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I'm gonna get my face tattoo. I was watching you come up. I remember when you used to vlog around LA and stuff like that. I watched your eyes and the studio was not like this. Used to go out and do cocaine and fucking. I know, you was, you were a BMX or Right? Yeah. Yeah. You had a skateboard? You guys ever ride bikes or skateboard? No. But I mean, we was riding bikes as a kid, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:01 But what made you come out? Like, who did you interview that made you, uh, I mean, X was the big one. X? Yeah. What about Lopomp? I did a lot of crazy iPhone vlogs with him, but we never really, uh, we never really did. The Lopon vlogs were lit. When you go out of spin-o fan in the club stuff? Yeah, it was fun. A little bit? I mean, it was out of fucking control. How you feel? I don't, I'm going to interview you now. How you feel about pump. That's the homie. I've seen him in a long time, but yeah, that's the homie. He's cool? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:31 He's up, right? He's good, huh? I mean, I don't know exactly what's going on career-wise now, but, I mean, it seems like he has a good amount of money. He's always got some of chrome hearts on. Why happened with you and young boy? He did, I think, like, threatened to kill me basically one time. Why? Why you? Because I asked that girl, Sarah Molina, 6-9's baby mama, I asked her about young boy i think and i think she said that he was a psycho and he like did all this crazy shit and i don't know why she was calling him a little boy and stuff like that's a girl man he has like four kids it was just weird how she talked about him there was like a couple different girls who talked about him in a row and he wasn't hyped on it why would you take sarah's side uh uh
Starting point is 00:59:09 instead of young boy's side i just asked her like somehow it came up i believe that she was like yeah hung out with young boy one time or he hit me up and he said this this and that it wasn't like i was like trying to like take her side i was just did you ever interview six nine i think you did Yeah, his first interview. Oh, okay, okay, yeah. That's lit. Yeah, good times. And now you guys are sitting here, so you guys are next in the lineage.
Starting point is 00:59:29 No, I... It was a little pump, it was 6-9, now it's Fly Soldier and Codiac Red. What does J-Z mean? Gen Z? Yeah, you heard about that? It's people of a certain age, but I'm pretty sure it's like... If you're like 30 or something, right, that's like an old asshole. Do you guys know what that is?
Starting point is 00:59:45 What? I mean, no, no, they're not Gen Z. They're way too young to be Gen Z. Where that fuck is my phone out here? It's under my thigh. I've seen it. I never, I know. Gen Z is like.
Starting point is 00:59:53 No, someone tried to say that I'm Gen C. Gen Z. What ages are Gen Z? Oh, look, yeah. It's a mid to late 90s as starting birth years. So like, you know, you guys are later than that because you were born in 2005 or so. 2001, we're not 2001. 2005, I see you're my dad die.
Starting point is 01:00:17 What are you watching? He's just watching a YouTube video. No, look, no. Oh, okay. This is you doing the young boy in personation and this guy's not feeling it, I guess. How did you feel about this guy? He doesn't know what's going on. He doesn't understand the flow.
Starting point is 01:00:50 He wasn't hating though. Just listen to what he says though. He was rolling his eyes and looking at the beginning. He liked it. This guy's confused about what Gen Z is, I'm pretty sure. No, listen to it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what it is. No offense to him.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Listen to what he said. Yeah. Okay, let me, let me see a lot of people on a four-you page on TikTok using that same, that same thing. Do you guys feel super successful yet? Like you have videos that have like millions of views, but then, you know, some of the newer stuff isn't necessarily doing as good. Where do you feel like your career is at right now? It's going up, but it's not super successful. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a millionaire. Do you think that that's part of what people kind of hold against you as a grudge is that like your image is crazy and your, you're, you're, They're sort of famous, but maybe the music isn't necessarily the reason why you guys are so known. Right. What are you asking, like, if we're hated because... I'm just trying to figure out where the animosity towards you guys comes from. You know, it seems like some people kind of think you guys are more like substance or style over substance. But that's what it is now.
Starting point is 01:02:15 That's the thing. That answers your question right there. Coming up as a rapper nowadays, it's like, what? Straight rapping? Yeah, I'm not gonna be We had to figure out the cracks and crevices How are we gonna make it Right
Starting point is 01:02:29 You know what I'm saying So you gotta keep You gotta keep going You gotta keep pushing You gotta keep popping up You gotta put in their face Right You feel me
Starting point is 01:02:35 This is one of them Adam interview boom right there I go viral all the time Code that cosine Co-dine boom right there You gotta keep putting in the face Why should I fuck with them You feel me
Starting point is 01:02:45 Or they're gonna be like Why? Okay at first you know how people are They're not gonna believe in you And they can forget about you You know how people worry They don't care They have life
Starting point is 01:02:53 You feel me I mean, I think, I think, I think, but when they start seeing you, when they start seeing you, when they start seeing you, like, you keep popping in their face, I'm like, man, these are, they're done. They're doing that thing. I think me as a rapper, my music is underestimated, though. Yeah, for sure. But I have enough time in my life as a 20-year-old, I have enough time to step on next and to show anybody that says anything that I'm good, I'm a good rapper and I'm talented. I'm a good artist. I can sing, rap, whatever, versatile.
Starting point is 01:03:22 I can make rock music, whatever. Right. I mean, people are definitely like gravitated towards you guys personality-wise. So even if the music isn't there yet, I feel like- It's always been like this time. You know, like you guys, as long as if you land on the right hit right now, you already have enough of an audience. Yeah, even Koddard told me, he goes like, you young, you're 20, you got you could you could do image this, image that, you re-evaluate that. I saw Skinny from the nine saying that you guys took his whole style. Nobody took no- What style does he have? Come on.
Starting point is 01:03:48 What he was saying? What's, you met him? What style does he have? He's got braids? Cringy. You don't even have the face tats. He doesn't even have neck tattoos. He's got probably one right here.
Starting point is 01:03:57 He's not, bro. I couldn't believe when he was trying to call us out to fight. I'm like, first of all, I know who your sister is. She always hit me and my brother up to hang out with her in Miami. Oh, boy. And what's it called? And he's just soft. He's just talking.
Starting point is 01:04:10 On live when he said I saw a style or whatever in the conversation. He just, that's talking. Bro, you know, have you seen him punch or punching back? I didn't steal. No. I saw his boxing match. I announced his boxing match on Friday. Wait, what do you think about it?
Starting point is 01:04:23 I didn't, I didn't see him fight. Yeah, you got the shit beat out and he lost. He can't fight. I mean, I don't know if you can fight in the real world, but in that fight, he got his ass beat by a TikToker. And he was really mad about it. No offense to skinny. I have seen him fight. Did you see him get beat up by Almighty Jay?
Starting point is 01:04:38 I did see that. And I saw him fight at the Habachi spot one time. Yeah, yeah. Is he getting beat up all the time? Well, the most recent one on Friday was the first time that it was legally sanctioned in a ring. He just not that guy. How was John? John Gabana beat Supreme Paddy's out.
Starting point is 01:04:52 That was pretty good. Yeah. That was impressive. I knew that's gonna happen. I talked to John too on live sometimes. He left the live, he cleared it from the live when I said, uh, a boo-dien. How do you feel that he transformed? I mean, I'm proud of him, you know?
Starting point is 01:05:02 You're proud of him? Yeah, I mean, well, think about when I interviewed him the most recent time, he fucking passed out and blasted his forehead into the wall. So you see him sober and actually doing good in the boxing match, that was pretty cool, you know? Do you think that his image is better back then? Then not, like, be real. Like, I mean, it was hilarious at the time, but it was like, it wasn't gonna last. Last, he's stealing shit, he's doing tons of drugs. That wasn't going to last.
Starting point is 01:05:25 It was entertaining, but was it good for him? No, was it going to last a long time? No, so I'm glad that he's fixed it up. We was getting called Palm Beach, Boogang, because we were stealing at the time it was tatted up in our face and stuff. But Boogang definitely has a good image, whether he's positive or being negative, running off on people's stuff. Like, he, I think he has an impact when it comes to tattoos and Diamond Girls.
Starting point is 01:05:45 I don't know why he's not, I don't know why he's not a, I don't know. What was funny is that Skine from Nine after he lost that boxing, match he was so pissed off that him and his girl ended up fighting the dude that he fought in the boxing match and his girl backstage and i guess this video but supreme patty's trying to get it removed from the internet but uh bro what is he going through in his life that he has to like do this i don't know he signed a soldier boy man yeah would you guys sign a soldier boy um yeah you signed a codac you sign a soldier boy boom undefeated fucking impossible to defeat at that point i was fucking with soldier boy up until he signed skinny for the night what the hell
Starting point is 01:06:21 Is that what a fuck? Skinny for the 9 is not, he's got my, when I went live with Skinny from the 9, my girl, the first thing she asked me is, what, did he buy all his Instagram followers? He's got no cloud. Yeah, he didn't bring no views. He bring no views. I'm talking shit to you. When I went live with Fulio, we had almost 20K.
Starting point is 01:06:37 If he didn't stop it, it probably would have been at $100K. I don't know why it was popular. The lie with Fulio, it went dumb. It kept growing up. Even he was like, you feel me? He wanted to act like it wasn't like that wasn't a lot of numbers, but you feel me? That was a lot of numbers. I ain't a cat.
Starting point is 01:06:50 It's kind of like we should work with each other instead of like it's beefing because we pull we pull numbers. See, all these Florida rappers really know who we are. They know that we're going to get big like bro, Kodat would not meet up with him if he knew that he wasn't going to be big. That's a fact. If I'm big and I'm famous, I'm not going to meet up with a random person for no reason. Yeah, to hit me up and talk to me the way he talked to me and pulled me to the side and have a conversation. Because people were like, why does he want to talk to you in person? Because he's like, I want to meet you in person.
Starting point is 01:07:12 He wanted to chill with him like in person. And I was right. And I was right. He wants to pull me to the side and talk to me. And we hung out. you feel me went to the clubs and everything like that man real real real club with codec too yeah nice i was kind of i was jealous i'm like bro he's fucking with you dog and face i was like man i want to that's a vibe was to toad ho truck everything sliding like think about it we're from
Starting point is 01:07:32 florida was never game he's with the most uh talked about litest most relevant in florida rapper he's a face when you think of florida you think of kodak yeah you don't think about nobody else influential florida rapper like the last 10 years for sure one of the most You think of code. I mean, come on. The Browry, he's, the biggest Z. Goals, you feel me, G, and what's up, Gitt?
Starting point is 01:07:52 You feel me? Like, yeah, so. Yeah, he definitely, he definitely influenced a lot of Florida stuff. The Wicks, like, you feel me? So, like, that's how you know, like, yeah, it's lit, no cap. Yeah, so I was, so I'm, so it was kind of cool meeting him, and you feel me, talk to him and got his, you know, you know, yeah, real cool. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:08:09 So, okay, where do you guys see your career being at right now, and what do you have planned, and how are you going to take shit to the next level? Well, as you get to, see we just came out with a music video we're gonna make that we're gonna make that video go up for sure we're gonna make go up because money went up and the uh murder went all smoke and rain all went up and stuff like that this video with we got more we got more money now so we got we could put into more like uh music like camera camera guys that are good you know what I mean so we go we don't we don't we don't make movies definitely yeah so like video wise we're going
Starting point is 01:08:39 make movies and people don't how do I say this people with the audios they do numbers but when it does music videos like because our image and stuff like that people love watching it whether they make fun of it put a dislike and hate in the comments we get views then again it's an image thing yeah 2021 so we're like some people are like album some rappers are album rappers that's why people try to tell me bro bro we video we video rappers but you should vlog we video we video people will be telling me you should vlog bro like you feel me you got it all but i'm like vlog i don't i don't look at myself like a vlogger like i just don't i don't look at myself like picking up the camera you've done before you know how it is yeah if you're a rapper you got to be kind of secretive about how much
Starting point is 01:09:16 yourself in your life you really want to show the public you definitely can't i wish i gotta pick up a camera and get money off of it but i can't i get i live a secret of private introverted life not not like a lot of you don't you don't live it as much as a lot of rappers more rappers more secretive than us yeah more rappers and more secret but i know they don't be on i know i know the route i'm taking uh i definitely got to be secretive my whole life if i'm if i'm gonna be famous yeah you got to move smart because you guys are hell of famous but not necessarily i'm very known like if you're like i definitely can't walk the streets you feel Yeah, like lacking or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:09:46 You guys aren't going to Melrose while you're out here or anything? That's like the main shopping area out here. Oh, we went there. I shot a music video, right? Right, walk in there and stuff like that. But no, I... You got to be careful, man. People get robbed the left and right over there.
Starting point is 01:09:59 No, it's not... No, the thing with... Listen, I like Cali and stuff like that, but like... It's a different vibe. Oh, yeah. Then Florida, yeah. Like, I don't... I don't come and Cali to come catch a vibe.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Like, I don't know. Am I tripping? I don't know. I just don't want to see y'all get kidnapped by some bloods out here. Oh, no, no, no, I like Cali. I say I like Cali. I'm from Florida. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:23 You got to understand like, different politics. Yeah, Florida, to me, it's like, it's like, it's like Cali, but it's like, it's like Cali, but you know me. More spread out. No, so more spread out. It's less intense. Okay, okay, okay, so that's where he's not understanding. He likes Callie, but. No, me and him have, have, have a different opinion about, about Florida and, and Florida's way more wild.
Starting point is 01:10:43 You understand what I'm saying? Okay, yeah. Okay, yes, it's more wild. But to live in, you rather, you rather live in Cali than Florida? I risk my life more being in my state in Florida than being in Cali. That's a fact. Like Boosie said, like Bozzy said, that's a fact. Yes, your own city will hate on you.
Starting point is 01:10:58 You're right. Anywhere in Florida. Florida get down. I'm telling you. Oh, yeah. It's a whole different vibe. You feel me? He's not understanding that, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:11:05 Like, we live in two different sections in back in Florida. Okay, let me ask you a question. If you're rich, like really, really rich, you become a multimillioner. You got a big, a big crib, a big crib with nice cars in the front, right? You're not really, and you live in the rich part, you're not really tripping about what the other people got going on. Okay. You feel me? I rather, I rather.
Starting point is 01:11:27 And you live private. No one knows what you're still. You can live in Florida. I'll move out to Cali if I, if I got the big back. Florida neighborhoods are nicer. Like, when you become rich, they're just nicer. That's not how it works. What's it called?
Starting point is 01:11:39 That's not how it works. Anybody, anybody could be, anybody could be, anybody could be in the suburbs. Too much traffic. Anybody could be in the suburbs and it gets down in the suburbs. It gets down all the time in the publics, in a suburbs public. In a Walmart. I'm red. You know,
Starting point is 01:11:53 I'm known. So like, I'm hated even. Obviously, you can't go to a Walmart. That's why you send someone to go to a Walmart. No. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:02 I go out of the state and Cali or something like that, it's a different vibe. I'm not as hated. So to you and me got two different things. For sure. Like, you could move out here and be like, you're not going to be dealing with as much problems, but then also the gang structure in L.A. is so much more that in time, it might become an issue.
Starting point is 01:12:20 I guess I can't really be mad that he's got a different opinion about it. But I hope he, I hope you say when, because I'll move out of, I'll get a big bag, I'll move out of Florida. I just, I visited the States. I just can't get used to one, that's all. Florida's small. Like, Florida's a big state, but it's really small because we have the Everglades and then we have cities, like the strip. You think suburbs is as big is really not. The suburbs right, oh, suburbs right next to the hood. You're right. It's always everywhere in Florida, if you're in the richest part, the hood is right across the bridge.
Starting point is 01:12:51 So you think that, you think, you think it's sweet in the suburbs and it's really not. I just think the houses in Florida are just nicer. Okay, that's cool. There's nice. Like, the neighborhoods, like, I like the suburb neighbors, like driving in there with a nice gate. He's wrong. There's Bel Air, there's Bel Air here. There's Calabasas here.
Starting point is 01:13:09 There's way more money out here. Yeah, but that's overrated. Too many people. Beler, like, oh. I should go to Compton and tell me what happens. Nobody, okay, but, okay, but you got to understand. I don't know how Compton works, but you got to understand, Florida is a whole different jungle. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:25 You understand what I'm saying? Like, when you go to Pompano, like, 1,800 blocks, the other corner, when you go to Dade, like, you go to Opelaco, you go to Miami Gardens. You feel me? Like, they get down. I feel like the hood, when I go to the hood, it fucks me. I feel like when I'm in the suburbs, it's more dangerous, because. You feel me? Like, it makes me look different.
Starting point is 01:13:46 You feel me? It makes me look like, oh, when I'm in suburbs, what's it called? I stand out a little bit more. But anyways, that's also saying... That's why you gotta watch out.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Because sometimes... I'm not gonna lie. Sometimes, like, there's certain hoods in Florida that fuck with me. I'm not every... Not certain ones, especially Spanish hoods.
Starting point is 01:14:02 But what's it called? But there's like... We have like G-block in Lakewood. They fuck with us. You feel I mean? Then you have... You have the Haitians. Haitians fuck with us.
Starting point is 01:14:10 But what's it called? But there's certain hoods that don't fuck with us. But it's whatever. But when I come out to Cali, there's a whole bunch of famous people out here. They're not really as worried about me. You know what I'm saying? Because people are kind of like, okay. People are killing people because you guys are a bigger fish in a smaller pond in Florida
Starting point is 01:14:25 versus you're a smaller fish in a big pond. I hope you don't think Florida is that sweet. Did I not just say, I'm talking about a, I'm talking about, I'm talking about a big crib. I'm not talking about, I'm not talking about, I'm not going to walk into Walmart like I'm a regular person. Definitely not. Any Walmart. I'll be in Walmart. No, you, no, yeah, I go to Walmart and Cali, nobody cares about you.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Right. You know what I'm saying? But you're in Florida, you're a rapper. I ain't going to the Walmart and California. If you're a Florida, look, if you're in Florida, it's like you got to keep a gun on you when you go to Walmart because, like, put it this way. The baby, you feel me? Charlotte don't get ass down in Florida. But North Carolina got something, you know, you got something going on, right?
Starting point is 01:15:03 Right. Okay, the baby, he had to, you, feel me, he had to get down in Walmart. So Walmart does get down in certain parts. But in Cali, they, in Cali is not, you know what I mean? In L.A., we got the Walmart Crips. You got the Walmart Crips? It's like a whole Crips set of just Walmart employees. Yeah, but I bet those, but they're employees there.
Starting point is 01:15:18 I was just kidding. You guys are ruining it. They start laughing at me. I'm fucking right. It's an inside joke. Not, not, no, but you feel me? Like, I mean, I mean, Florida suburbs, you feel me? It's just, it's right there.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Like, it's, you know what I mean? It's just right there. Well, y'all better be safe because this interview is going to put an even bigger spotlight on what's going on. and I just want to make sure you guys are good. You stand out right away. You feel me? You got blonde wigs. You got face tattoos.
Starting point is 01:15:48 You got gold in your mouth and stuff like that. You think you might see Florida different to me. I've been all around. I've been bored. I've been had a car when I was 14, 15 years old. Been all around. Like, I've been, you feel me? I know, I know every section in South Florida.
Starting point is 01:16:01 How do you deal with haters? And everything like that. Ignore. Ignore. You ignore them? Scam likely. Ignore. Oh, you ignore them?
Starting point is 01:16:08 I mean, sometimes you've got to fight back, but not really. Yeah. Mostly. You got to choose your battle sometimes and then, you know, sometimes you don't even waste your energy. Yeah, exactly. You got to pick your enemies wisely. Especially when you benefit out of it. Yeah. I mean, you guys are benefiting from the beef and whatnot right now because it puts more attention. We've been chilling. That's what I always been saying, but. Sometimes you just want to focus on the music.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Yeah, for sure. I've been focusing on the music. I'm getting real tired of dealing with people. Yeah, same. They're becoming just. If you're not a rapper, I don't really want to talk to you. I feel you for sure You gotta understand certain people don't have the same type of mindset as you
Starting point is 01:16:45 So when you got fans They come at you They're your fan Because they watch you Right But they might come at you In a weird way Like
Starting point is 01:16:50 And you might feel pressed You're like Why'd you ask me That stupid question But why'd you come at me like that Like do you ever think I might fight my fan Can you piss me off
Starting point is 01:16:58 I I'm gonna fight my fans I know I do ever think in your head That you're more lit Than a lot of people Because you I mean
Starting point is 01:17:07 You kind of made a name For yourself Yeah I mean But the thing is my fans treat me super fucking like i see fans all the time and it's just real quick like like yo can i get a selfie like they don't like i'm not even talking about that though i'm really talking about like when you when you walked when you walked in like you like you notice how
Starting point is 01:17:23 everyone like they know who you are you're at you're adam toronto too much well they all work for me they all are literally my employees yeah so they have to know who he is yeah yeah they got to show me at least some attention i wonder if it's fake though do you think do you think laura you just say how to me because let me ask you a question when you're by yourself Not trying to go fire. When you're by yourself, do you think Adams like known? Like in your head, you're like, yo, I know a known guy. She don't care about me.
Starting point is 01:17:48 She likes Eminem. Yeah, everyone kind of recognizes them. But you're nowhere like that. Like, you're not even, you don't want none of that, right? Like, you're not... It comes with it. It comes with it. Yeah, you're gonna come with it.
Starting point is 01:18:03 She's my security guard. She carries the blicky. She's a security guard? Bro, she got three guns on her right now. She got one strapped to her ankle. And hand sanitizer. See, the way how cold. Kodat moves in Florida and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Ain't nobody going to really touch him. Right. But he moves around like a millionaire. You know, you got security. Yeah, he got security. He's got a lawyer. He's got his homeboys that are legal, legal guns, legal license to drive in a tunnel. I don't guess why Kodai don't get out of the street.
Starting point is 01:18:29 It's crazy that Kodak is sitting back. But he still won't move out of Broward. I don't know why. He's sitting back wearing a turtleneck, smoking a black and mild, watching this interview, having a good time. I assume. Okay, then. Maybe he'll text me and say, what's up? Hello, Yak.
Starting point is 01:18:42 No, but Yeah, you never thought about interviewing him? I've been trying. You don't even respond. He liked my message the other day on Instagram, but he didn't respond. He just liked it. He'd be reading his DMs.
Starting point is 01:18:54 He'd be on the internet for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to have him pull up on him. I'm trying to go pull up on him. Pull up on him. I was supposed to go with track, you know, 100K track. We were going to go pull up on him,
Starting point is 01:19:02 but then the schedule. 100K track. Is that like 100K management? Yeah. Oh, okay. Is that the guy with the judge? Melly's old manager, yeah. The great judge?
Starting point is 01:19:09 The great judge? Yeah. Okay, yeah. He brought him up. Kodat brought him up to me. Yeah. Yeah. Good dude.
Starting point is 01:19:16 I was actually in Miami over the weekend. Oh, it was lit? Yeah, it was a good time. We were up in the club. Mr. Rogers. What did you go to? Some shit. We did the Fresh and Fit podcast.
Starting point is 01:19:25 You guys should go on there. I don't know what that is. Oh, I'm going to line it up for you. You got to meet these guys. Tell them where to go follow you and everything like that. At Cody at Red, K-O-D-Y-A-K, Red with 2-D-R-E-D. Stop playing. My name is Fly Soldier.
Starting point is 01:19:42 You feel me? Go watch my new music video because that bit hard. No cap. That bit hard. Big bag E&T is the YouTube channel. That's me and my brother. We own that YouTube channel. Stop playing.
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