No Jumper - The Foolio Interview: Getting Shot at 15, "Who I Smoke" Controversy, Adin Ross Drama & More

Episode Date: May 11, 2021

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No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And we got the talk of the fucking Tamfulio in the building today. How you living? Six brits, I'm living good, man. I got to put these on. Give it a shot if you want, but you don't have to. I'm just, shit. How are you living?

I'm doing good, though. Everything been going up. Yeah. Everything's going good. Yeah, yeah. For sure. I don't want this to be like an annoying interview, because I feel like you've been doing a bunch of annoying interviews lately, true or false?

I don't know. I just be gone. with the flow, bro. I ain't gonna count to you. I just like, I know how it is to be somebody like you and you've been grinding on your career for so goddamn long. Uh-huh. And then you just get wrapped up in some bullshit. And all of a sudden, it's anybody, it's all anybody wants to talk about.

And it's like, they don't even know that you've been putting out records for years and years. Who you're telling? That's how I be. I ain't gonna kill. You just said some shit. That is how it be, though. Yeah, that's how I'd be. But I just go up the flow, though.

I don't really, you know what I'm saying? This will come with it. Like, fate shit, that would come with it, though. But you probably never expected to have so many people find out. How much your Instagram go up over the past couple months? I ain't going to lie to you. I was just talking about this yesterday, bro. This was exactly two weeks ago, bro.

I had like 400 and like 60K. Now I'm at 600 and motherfucking like 35, some shit like that. Like it been going up crazy though. Because you know what's going on in the situation and the songs and everything going up right now. People are just fascinated. Fascinated. And they just not hear about me like me getting my foot in the door with the song and shit like that. So now everybody know who I am.

It reminds me of the fact that I can always like see like, okay, number one, creepy things that exist in our culture. When somebody dies, they get mad Instagram followers. Yeah, that's crazy. I said that too. You compare it to that though, it's pretty good because you didn't have to die or anything. You just basically were involved in a beef and you get all this attention and shit, you know? That's a good way to look at it. But it also just stands out that.

It's like, damn, there's a big chunk of the rap audience that realistically is not really paying attention until there's some beef, some people dying, some shit like that that they can pay attention to. You know, that's a strange world we live in. It'd be, like, I said, it'd be fake. Like, fake, fake friends, fake followers. They just tune into the negativity. They don't really look at like the positive side or he was just in this hood, like, giving out dollars paying for shit, like with the community and shit. They don't look at shit like that. They just look at, like, the disc songs and shit like that.

Mm, definitely. Yeah, it's shit fucked up. So, okay, let's go back in time so we can just, like, paint the whole picture. Are you from Jacksonville originally? Yeah, I'm from Jacksonville, north side of Jacksonville. Okay. Yeah, yeah. And how would you describe what your childhood was like?

Man, I ain't gonna lie. We had hard, like, I grew up on the north side, like, 40sfield, 16, 46. Like, this is, like, the worst hood, the worst apartments in Jacksonville. Anybody will tell you that, like, but we didn't really have. everything like but when I went to like growing up and shit my mama wanted to like moving like the other hood so I moved to the west side of the Jacksonville and shit

and I saw new things like you know so I just had it harder it was different like it was still fucked up or it was like it was fucked up but it was like it got more kind of like easy you can say like you know what I'm saying? So that's interesting because I feel like a lot of times when I talk to rappers they end up

having seen a bit like if you were just on the same corner your whole life it's like it's kind of hard to see what's out there but if you've kind of like lived in the shitty area and lived in a place where you get to go to a nicer school or whatever that can kind of help open somebody's eyes to what's possible yeah it was straight a little bit when i moved to the it was still fucked up and i don't get me wrong but it was just like more like okay i ain't in the apartment's no mom in the house now you know what i'm saying yeah because i'm used to like a two-bear-home apartment so we moved to our first house i don't know what i like that

that's what's interesting about you having this moment and whatnot is that Jacksonville never really was the part of Florida that was getting attention. Yeah, it's Miami. And that, the real is Miami. Because, like, down south, that's, like, where you go vacate. Clubs, parties, basically the total opposite of what you have been, basically become known for, right? Yeah.

Like, the up, I say, like, where I'm from, like, from Tallahassee to the Jazzville, we, like, a whole different part. We know, like, we know where, like, Miami, none of that. Like, it's completely different. But that's what people think, though. And it's like we've seen, you know, Miami and rap has always been big. We've seen Broward blow the fuck up. We've seen, you know, a lot of the shit down south has kind of had their moment and everything.

But Florida is, like, how long it take you from Jacksonville to drive Miami? It's like five hours, six hours, yeah. Long as hell. For us, it's like L.A. and San Francisco are worlds apart, but it's basically like the same distance. Mm-hmm. That shit. So, okay, you moved to like sort of a better area at what time? Or what age?

pilot when I was 12, 13. But it was like going to my 6th grade year, fifth, sixth grade, fifth going to 6th, yeah. Okay. I'm more like the west side. It's called the neighborhood called West Jax.

Yeah, that's why I was just thugging it. Okay. You would still describe it as thugging? Like, you have your little crew out there? Or what was life like? Yeah, yeah, that shit. Like, it goes down, everywhere of shit.

That's why I really like, I ain't gonna care. I got my first piece of pussy, like six grade like that's why I like really like hot out the porch got my first gun like in west jats like hell yeah that shit was lit was it super normal to have a gun at that age in Florida yeah yeah everybody had guns but that was just like the thing like you had to have a gun because we was always beefing with like older people and they always had the guns and car they had a advantage like you feel me and we always used to walk everywhere so one day we thought we're like hell no we got to get

guns we got to get cars can't keep going out like that you feel what I'm saying wow really yeah yeah That's crazy. So you had just been exposed to that from an early age. That was just like how you understood that life worked out there. Yeah. You just adopt. You adopt what's going on around you. I ain't going to keep getting shot at 50 million times like not get a gun.

You know what I'm saying? So basically, I mean, you're painting the picture of it. Like with us like, okay, a lot of times when we talk about Florida, right, we don't talk about gangs. Yeah. Like that's a big part of what makes all this shit interesting to people is that it's like a lot of people didn't even know there was gangs and this type of. activities in Florida.

Maybe, maybe, forgive me if I'm wrong, but I mean, that was like a constant presence. But people weren't saying bloods and crips or anything. Or what was like people identifying at that time as? Neighborhoods, like, right? And Jacksonville, Pacificly, bro, it's a million different neighborhoods. And in those neighborhoods, you probably have like five to ten clicks with their own name was branched off. Like, you know what I'm saying?

But it's bloods and crips and so it's a game called Cut. But that's in prison. Like you got to go to prison to get down with that shit and come back. Like you can't do that shit on the streets. But that's what people do though. But if you want to run on the right way, you got to go to prison and shit like that.

Interesting. Yeah, yeah. Do you ever get locked up at Young Edge? Yeah, I've been locked up. Plenty of times seeing my city, they got me labeled as like a gang leader or some shit like that. So I get harassed so much to the point

I can't even really like to sit in my city like that because they harassed me bad. But yeah, I've been locked up plenty times. Damn, really. So what was your... It was a jail or you actually make it to prison? Yeah, no. You didn't actually get the real treatment?

Okay. Yeah, no, I went to on a county jail like last year for like a month, bro. And this is how bad it do me, bro. They revoked my bond for driving with no license, bro. They could have just gave me a ticket anything where they say, because I'm foolio, I'm red, flat and the silt. I got to go to jail. Like, I got to get booked.

Like, you know what I'm right? Yeah, yeah. Because there's only so many lit people in your area that is like, if you lived in L.A., you would be one of thousands of rappers that they could harass. But you're there. There's only a handful of rappers they can fuck with, right? Yeah.

That's exactly how it is. They don't like that. The cops, from my experience in Florida, are some of the worst cops I already to deal with. Yeah, bro. Like, if it's a little roach, it could be a little... I'm going to jail, bro. Possession, all right?

They're going to take me straight to jail, right? Yeah. Definitely. So, okay, in those little, like, brief times that you had locked up, though, that I kind of like turn you out to certain things that get you like sort of ready for more advanced shenanigans

when you were back free? Hell no, when I got locked. I was like, man, fuck this shit. Man, I cannot be in jail, bro. I got too much going on. I had a label coming to my court date. Like, damn. I'm like, damn.

And while all this is going on in my head, I'm like, damn, bro. I could be out there record and I could just be with a bitch or something shit. I could just... And then I'm in a dorm. You got to think about it. I'm in a dorm.

for license charges. I'm surrounded by straight. People with murder charges shooting. I'm like, why the fuck they got me in this shit, bro? You know what I'm saying? A bunch of them know who you were and shit? Everybody knew how I was. That'd be the fuck-up part of everybody.

Everybody knows. So you're going to have to rap with some shit. Like, they want to hear that shit. And they made you rap? They want to hear that shit. Oh, my God. You hard as hell, rap that shit. Spit some shit, boy.

That's hilarious. Just sing like a song that you put out a couple years ago. You just like, just do this one real quick. Who are you telling him? Oh, my God. All right. So when did you actually start rapping, though? I mean rapping all my life, but I started taking this shit serious.

Probably like two and a half years ago. I had moved to Atlanta, and I met Zatof. And then we put out of a collared mix tape together. So you were just doing your thing, rap him, and then how'd you end up meeting Zatov? Some people I knew linked me up with him in the studio. And he was like, you hard. We need to drop a mixtape.

And then we did that. And that's how I got my little. I would probably have like 15,000 followers then, though. Then I got a little buzz, and that's how that went. Damn, that's crazy. Zatovan does not get the credit he deserves because he's had such a huge impact on so many people's careers. Man, a goat for, for him. That's a tag.

And he took me on tour with him not. Like, he did so much for me, bro. That's why I said, I respect Zatvin, bro. He didn't have to do that for him. I wouldn't even know big artists then. He just saw, like, the potential of where I were going to be in the future. But he didn't try to sign you or anything? He just was happy to, oh, he tried to sign you?

Yeah, I thought, Jose. But I just ain't signed a shit because, you know what I'm I was more than like, we brothers, like, I wouldn't think about the business side of this shit. Nah, I ain't signed to him. So, okay, but you were just doing your thing, rapping and stuff. He's who got you off your feet.

Why did you actually move to Atlanta at that point? Shit. It was just another step I had to take, you know what I'm saying? Because I had, like, a lot of labels calling me, like, from Alamo to 300 to, like, any label you could think of, so around this time, I'm like, damn. I can't move how I want to move in Jacksonville. I'm getting her eyes.

Let me get an apartment in Atlanta so I could go to, like, different studios and meet different artists and that shit work for real. Because you're talking about one place that has, like, no music industry, and you're basically just on your own. You put your shit on YouTube and promoted on social media, but that's about it. And then Atlanta is a whole giant network of different people fucking with music. I met so many people and had so many opportunities down there. So it was like a good.

It was a plus for me. Definitely. Yeah, it was a plus. When you first started making music, who were you inspired by? What was the shit that made you want to make music in the first place? When I was making music, bro, it was just for fun. Then real-life shit went to happening. Then I, you know what I'm saying?

When the rapping back, what's really going on in my life? Did I look up to anybody? Probably, like, I fought with a little Wayne and Eminem. Soldier Slim, shit like that. Kodak, don't come to mind of inspiration? I feel like you kind of inspired everybody. I fought with Kodak. I fought with Kodak because he's one of the ones that paid the way for Florida.

I fought, bro. Okay. Yeah. For sure, but, okay, that's interesting though right there because how much of a decision was it for you to start putting your real life in the music and the shit that was really going on? It really wasn't no decision. It was just like, shit, I'm in the studio. This how I'm feeling right now. Like, beat come on, this how I'm feeling.

I don't really write rapes like that. I just go out the head, like, so some shit could just have happening. I'm going straight to the studio like, damn, you know what I'm. They went off in the rap about. Definitely. Did you ever, was it a concern, though, of like, damn, maybe I'm saying too much. People are going to know too much. The cops are going to maybe know too much about the shit that I'm talking about.

I'm just a bitch that I entertainer rapper, bro. I ain't doing shit out here, man. That way I want to have anybody to know, too. I ain't trying to hurt nobody. You know what I'm saying? I'm just a rapper, bro. Right. But, I mean, they could use your lyrics against you in court, too, right?

I heard that. But, you know what I'm saying? It's been a lot of situations in my city, bro. I, like, been through that before Konda. and that shit ain't really stick so you know they needed more but nah hell no I mean what's crazy is like

you could if you say something and that thing is just like a vague description of events then it's like what are they gonna do but sometimes like the ARA's a rapper from Philly is a little older and he apparently was like a huge drug kingpin

but he basically like was accused of like orchestrating murders and then they find they find the lyrics in his phone that's basically him rapping about it like right after it happens. And they, like all this shit where they're basically,

when there are these events that they already have something to tie you to, once they're able to say, well, look at this lyric and look at this lyric, and these fit perfectly with these events, then it becomes like, you wouldn't get charged because of the lyrics, but the lyrics just are the fucking thing that makes it stick. I feel like. Yeah, that could be a way too, but I'm just an entertainer. I don't know.

They got to kick, you know what I'm saying? I was just entertainer, man. Right, for sure. But early on when you were talking about shit, was it stuff involved in other rappers or was it just in general? Like, okay, I'm just talking about someone so that got into it on the block, even though nobody knows who that is. Like, shit, like, I got shot when I was 15 and shit like that. Like, it was just real life shit happening to me when I was young as hell, like, getting my beat by the police. My little brother, Kendra Alston, this is a wristband right here.

15, 16, got killed by the police. Like, it's just a lot of real shit was going on. And I'm like, young as hell, like, damn, this shit really happening. Like, what the fuck? Go to the studio, vent, you know what I, vent. I went on the event. Definitely. But, okay, so how did you get shot?

You're just out? You're just standing in the corner? Were you, like, doing something specific? I got shot. I got a shot. Getting out of my school bus. That's what killed school for me. I was like, fuck school when I ain't going back.

I was like in like the ninth, eighth grade, some shit like that. And you're getting off the school bus and somebody was waiting for you? Yeah, and they shot me. Where'd you get hit? I got hit on my hip. It broke my hip. Hell yeah.

That shit was just crazy how that shit happening, bro. Because that whole day when I was in school, I got an argument with a couple people like a couple boys off in the fighting shit, hotting on their bus. I was just on some arrogant shit, bro. I wasn't really thinking because I'm 15 years old. I ain't thinking about shit.

I'm thinking, you know what I'm saying? I wasn't really thinking, bro. So when I just got out the bus, bro, it's like a little cut. And I'm like one of my little hoods were used to be in. So we're sitting in the cutting shit. I say by like two minutes A nigga came around the corner

Shooting As soon as I took like five steps I was hit And then when I got hit It's like my leg I was just crawling Bro I couldn't use my leg It was like I was just crawling bro

So as I'm crawling I'm looking back at him shooting Like he's still shooting Like he could have stood over me You get what I'm saying Right I'm like damn I'm 15 I'm from the dive bro

Like fuck I crawled in this lady Yard her house was like two house down I'm telling her I'm shot She'd get the fuck out my yard I don't give a fuck. Oh, man. I'm like, what the fuck?

That was crazy, bro. I'm 15 years old, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that shit fucked my head up, though. And that just killed school for you right there. Because, like, how can you protect yourself? You either go on a school with your gun, and, you know, even then you're not going to feel safe. Yeah, that shit was over with it. Because it's like, with you going to school, they know where you at.

Right. They know where to come get your ass at. Like, you were there. There's nowhere else you could be. You at school, you know what I'm saying? So that's how it was. Okay, when you got shot that time, you surprised or were you so in the streets that it was just kind of not that

surprised but i'm gonna put it like this a person had died that morning they thought i had something to do with it but they got clear i ain't had shit to do with it but i ain't like the person like you know what i'm saying he can guess how he died though he died get on the school bus oh my my god but they got cleared up and shit i ain't had nothing to do with it so boom when i was in school that day everybody kept coming to me like bro they said say you had something to do with such and such. I'm like, what the fuck? I was on the way to school.

Like, you feel me? The police interrogated me about the shit in the hospital and all. Like, I was at school, bro. Like, a real deal, I was at school. So, boom, I got out the bus and that's how that shit happened. Wow. That shit was crazy. That's terrifying.

Yeah, that shit was crazy. And it's, it's like, kind of what I'm getting out of this is that a lot of the shit that is all of a sudden viral is the exact shit that you've been used to dealing with your whole life. Yeah, this shit regular. Right. Shit regular to me, no. You ever, like, sit back and just worry about or just think about the fact that you've just become so numb to some of the craziest shit throughout your life?

And I ain't, I ain't gonna kill out that shit fault with me some time. I sit back and ask once in like, why do I go through this shit? You know what I'm saying? Like, why do certain shit happen? Then I think again, like, damn, maybe it's just a lesson or some shit. Then some more shit happened, like, damn. How many less is, though, I got to take, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm just numb to that shit, though.

I mean, when you think about like normal people, you know, you'll hear about like a, you know, a kid in high school, like a normal high school and some girl will kill herself in the school. Yeah. And it's like the whole school is traumatized. They got calling grief counselors to talk to the kids just because they're so traumatized. They didn't see or die. They weren't there. They barely probably fucking know the girl. But it's treated like it's that big a deal.

And as I get older and older, I kind of realize like, damn, I've seen a lot of shit. I've seen a lot of fucked up shit happen. And the people that I interview, a lot of times I've seen even. way more fucked-up shit happened. And it's not, it's not normal. It's not as normal as we try to act. I don't supposed to be no 15-year-old getting shot and going to funeral's back-to-back and shit.

Yeah, that shit could fuck your head up. Like, MDD, made it in the present order. That shit real. Like, you'll be fucked up. And then people would be like, why are you doing them drugs and shit? I'm trying to cope, bro. You know what I'm saying? How that shit be?

Damn. Yeah, yeah. Do you remember the first time that you got fucked up where it felt like you were doing it because there was something that you were. you wanted to forget or some bullshit that was going on in your life that you were really trying to escape. It's been a lot of times. Like, a lot of countless, numerous a time.

I'm like, damn, bro. Why are we going to make it out of this shit? Like, when this shit going to start, bro? And then that went to fall back to this rapping shit. Like, why I'm at now, like, I thank God every day, bro. Right. Every day I wake up. I could be dead for real.

Like, every day. Like, the fans don't know that. When they be trolling this shit, that shit be on our mind. Like, me and the other side. Like, I know people think I'm like, damn, I could die today, bro. Like the way we live in, bro, like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it's pretty crazy.

I mean, like, just for an example, I didn't think the Aiden Ross thing was going to be that big a deal. Yeah. Because I feel like you're probably so numb to it already because you already heard people singing disrespectful shit about your friends over and over and over. But at the same time, I mean, that shit probably always kind of is going to bother you a little bit, right? You know, it's crazy?

I didn't even know who he was or nothing, but I promised, bro. The fans, I ain't even know he was a famous. is Twitter stream with the fans, bro. If it wasn't for the fans, you would have never known. I went to no shit, bro. They spam, they shit out my deal. My followers was going crazy. I wasn't on Twitter before then.

Bro, I had a Twitter, but I was not on it. But I got on my Twitter. It was going crazy, bro. I probably had like 3,000 followers. But I went up to 22K, bro. I'm like, damn, who the fuck is Aiden Ross? And they sent me this home, bro. I'm like, who the fuck is Aiden Ross?

And they sent me this stuff. I'm like, damn, what the fuck? Then he had them. And he's like, bro, let's hop on the phone, bro. We talk. He was like, yeah, now let's hop on live and clear it up, bro. Then he did it again. Then he did it again.

But he didn't know that they were filming him on on IG Live when he was singing. Yeah, I don't know what. I told him, man, he needed to get some new set of friends. I know. They're throwing your ass in that fire. Well, that's the best part is that he's the only white one and they're all black and they're all getting him in trouble with you.

I know. See, they know what's going on. They know exactly what's going on. Bro. He lost. For sure. Yeah, he's just slowly learning what's going on. Yeah.

I don't think I ever, like, sung any. thing in a son that I shouldn't have sung. Yeah, and it don't even be that. It's like, I see it as, this don't even go to A-N-R-Rouse. Like, if you're a fan, like, be a fan, bro. Like, you can fuck with all live music, bro. Like, fans be thinking, like, they die hard.

Like, that's your art, that's my art type shit. But in real life, that's not what it is. Like, you don't want to get yourself in that line to fire, like, you know what I'm saying? You're innocent, like, be a fan to everybody. Right. Yeah, yeah. And they also, I mean, there's what the,

the internet knows and there's what you know. And I would assume that what you know is probably so different than what the internet knows. Of course. Yeah, yeah. My mind being on some whole other shit. They think about the internet. This is the fans' job. Get up.

Let's go to Fulio, Instagram, and troll him all day. When I wake up, my job is to stay alive. Right. You know what I'm saying? I got to go through different shit every day. Yeah, so my life is completely different from what they got going on. They don't see it as that. You know what I'm saying? That's all they see. It's the internet. Why did you leave Atlanta though and go back to Jacksonville and do you plan on never leaving?

No, I stand on Atlanta. Oh, you do now? Okay. Yeah, I stand in Atlanta. I bought my mom a house down there and all. I stand there like for sure not. But I just be in Jacksonville so much. This might sound crazy.

I just love my city, bro. Even though they hate me, I just love my city, bro. You really feel like they hate you or you just feel like there's certain pockets of people that hate you? You could say that certain pockets of people. But in my city, from the police to the people they hate me, bro. My music don't get played in club Matter of fact I can show you this

Damn it's political out there With the clubs and shit Man ain't even playing my music I don't man That shit crazy They just put a poster last night In some of the clubs In the small

Strip club Called Wackos Talking about something You cannot play Fulio In this club Hell yeah They got this shit Man this shit

Crazy I'm like I don't even I don't even go to this club I don't know shit about this club So what's y'all You know what I'm saying Right But I guess if you own the club

You'd probably be like No don't play the ops music here No look they got the paper pinning out of the what the fuck oh okay they didn't just ban you they banned the other side too oh okay they ban everybody

oh wow they got every oh they got every list no but they got a big list they got a big list they got a wapa with the chopper they got everybody on that bit and at the bottom it's say the two songs they say what songs can't be played oh hell no that's so crazy

who I can't who I own when I see you I'm like damn honestly like my hat is off to them though because realistically they're playing that kind of shit you're just asking for problems, bro. Like your insurance policy does not cover murder anthems being played in your establishment, right? Oh, well. I mean, they're just asking for that.

Same thing, you try to go to a club out here. I mean, certain clubs, you try to get in with certain sports teams, certain colors, whatever. They're just, they're trying to stop that problem before it starts. Who are you telling? Who you telling?

He got a good ass ad liblet right there, huh? And listen, but ain't none of us been in that club, though? Right. In life. Like, why do you? y'all doing that. We don't want to kind of that poor ass club. But that's what's crazy is, if that's like a white-ass strip club that don't normally

have these problems? This man just said that, bro. That's what I'm thinking is like, you guys ain't been there. I'm assuming you've been to a strip club or two. Yeah, but we never, I ain't even know what club this was, bro. He just said, he said, bro, that's a club, bro. They do not like that type of stuff. They don't want that type of stuff going on. Right.

I mean, that is really... I respect it, though. That's the crazy thing that's happened over the past couple months is that now, like, the normal-ass white people and shit, just know about all this shit to an extent that they did not know about it before and they fucking love it it love it love it and that's why you have all these fucking trolls and all these people who just try to try to get at you trying to piss you off etc yeah yeah oh my bad what's a hey pouty and i'm doing an a light pole baby pooty and i'm doing no jumble interview right

now, bro, my back. I'm going to call it right back, so I'm done. Yeah, love you too, brother. You are a popular guy. Your phone's been blown up this whole time. Yeah, I'm bro. I'm trying to tell that. I'm doing business. Right. Definitely. Okay, so was there, I mean, I guess we might as well, like, at least try to pry into a few thoughts on this. Like, was you an Ace ever cool, or was there ever a time period

where you guys were able to be around each other? Um, we probably was like mutual, but we wouldn't, we never hanged on each other, but it wasn't always like, fuck you, like, you, that, you know what I'm saying? I was cool, like, some certain people he'd be around, like, they used to be in my hood, in my videos, taking pictures, having fun in my hood. I was never in their shit, you know what I'm saying? I was, like, one of the first kids that was owned in my city, like, famous, like, from rapping and shit. When I had 5,000 following shit, they used to ask me for features and shit. So everybody want to hand with Hilltop. It's a famous hood.

Everybody wants to come hang out there with us and shit. Ooh, just like setting trends and shit. Yeah, yeah. Just side question. Is your real name Julio? Yeah, no. And you know it's so great. That ain't even my rap name, bro.

That's just my Instagram name. Oh, okay. The internet made that my name, bro. Because I forgot that was your Instagram name. And when I was listened to that Aidan Ross thing, I'm like, why the fuck they keep on him, Julio, Fulio. I never call him anything besides Fulio. My name, Fulio, bro.

And they were thinking it was folio. Yes, they be Julio, Julio, they were saying out type of shit. I don't know what the fuck. Right. That's crazy. Okay, but so you guys had, I mean, it's interesting though because I'm sure you see, all right, how about this question? Yeah.

You see these videos that these YouTubers put together now where they're basically trying to tell the story of basically your life in streets at least. When you watch those videos, how much do you feel like they get, And how much do you feel like this shit is all wrong? That shit be all wrong. I just be like, y'all might as well as to do a documentary. Get your ass in this shit you want to know about, you get what I'm saying? That shit be so false, but I just, that's their job though.

So, you know what I'm saying? I don't even, you know what I'm But the crazy thing is that a lot of those videos, they don't try to even really make it clear that they're kind of guessing. They're just sort of like, here's what happened. This person got killed and then this person got killed. And I'm thinking like, I don't know if I believe it happened. that simply. And then they're a house

about the name. That's not even that person named. Oh, man. Like, everything be fucked up about the video. I look at them bitches down there every other day because they tag me and told many of them bitches. They tagged me and took many of them bitches. And, I mean, I'm not accusing anybody of capping or anything, but

oftentimes, too, it feels like, okay, just because somebody died and then somebody made a song talking about smoking that person does not mean that they killed that person. Or even that somebody from their side killed that person because I see it in LA all the time. People taking credit for bodies that they had nothing to do with.

Damn, yeah, that's it be real, though. That's what people do. Right. That's what people do, though. Yeah. Capping. Well, you call the cow, whatever they call it. That what they do, though.

Okay, so let's talk specifically about Bibby. Like, you had songs about him before he even became a topic of conversation and all this. What was your friendship with him and your relationship to him? That was like, my little bro, like, like, bro, like, bro, did. was like real deal crazy by me like real deal like infatuated with fool deal like I love you big bro like I'm gonna make you good like you don't got to worry about nothing like that was my brother for real how'd you know him just from being around yeah he's from the hood he from my hood but I watched him grow up the way he was like when he wasn't doing shit till when he you know what I'm saying

jumped out the port like I watched him like that was my la brodo real deal right and so when that happened to him how'd you find out or what would you it was right he was just with me like Like, okay, boom. He got out of school. He got out of the bus. Well, my god, mom used to stay. She used to stay on the corner house in the hood. And I used to stay with her for three years.

He got out of the bus, walked in the house. What's up, big, bro, hug and shit, dat each other up, talking and shit. He was like, man, I'm feeling to go to hilltop, man. I'm feeling offing to go to the hood real quick. And that shit only like a 10-minute walk. It's like a 10-minute walk. He was walking.

got out of school from all the school bus so boom i say bye soon as he walked out of the house i i told him pacifically i said le bro don't walk bro shit hot i'm talking about the police though i'm like gang tass ah bro like they hopping out on shit searching shit i ain't even think about no niggas like so boom he like man big bro i'm good he told us i ain't wearing about the police other niggas he showed it you know what i said about 20 25 minutes later i got that call i was like damn Like you would have listened to me staying the house bro like you know what I'm saying and that would be fucking me or too like I talked to so many people right before he walked out the door and died I'd be like damn what the fuck like if you would have listened to me you would have been here today like you know what I'm saying should be crazy and I mean it feels kind of cruel to have to even tell a 16 year old kid like don't walk down the street yeah you know like that's how fucked up shit is is that you know even just walking over to somebody's house could be that

fucked up. That quit. That's how fast shit happened. When you were growing up, was there even like, like I grew up fighting all the time. Like, fighting was normal. Yeah. Did that just go out the window about the time you were like 12, 13 or what? Out of the window completely.

We started fighting. Like, we used to fight at clubs and shit, but that shit went out of the window. I got shot when I was 15, so that shit went out of the window before then. Like, it was just, that just always had been, though, because like I said,

the people we were in tour with was always older than us. So I, they already knew. about the streets like you're supposed to have this to protect yourself you're supposed to drive cars and to get here we went thinking about that we was walking a hundred deep the clubs and shit across the time we walked from the west side to the north side like just to go to a party like not even knowing these niggas can pull up on us and do all this we're thinking nothing like that you know what's yeah yeah damn that's a tough lesson I learned um like how would you describe the source of like you

just being a group of young kids and have a beat with these older dudes like how would you describe as generally like the sort of thing that would even that even cause that to be the situation like what even made you catch the eye of like older people in the area and shit shit you're talking about like how we like beef with them yeah like why would you start beving with these people I don't know if it was necessarily like rappers that we're talking about at this point or if we're just mostly talking about street shit it's just some street shit like they were just like you know what I'm saying they just ain't like we were just young young bad ass kids running the city like beating up anybody like we're a hundred deep who from the stop us

And then they were just like, man, y'all got to chill. Like, this ain't what they're going to be. You know what I'm saying? Some old hair shit. But we got that shit settled. Right. Yeah. Okay.

It's interesting because, like, I saw you say that you didn't start this shit. But you did have, like, disc songs that were out before the Who I Smoke thing, right? Like, how much was there leading up to the Who I Smoke thing in terms of, like, songs and stuff? Like, how serious was this in the lead up to this? And how long had that been going on in terms of the tension? I ain't gonna count I've been making I'm always making

you know what I'm saying because that's how I be feeling sometimes but people don't care the subliminals that they do and shit they'll just see fool little, foolio, foolio, they ain't looking at that shit I catch all subliminals

like when the niggas say something about a six or anything in their songs bro I'm catching that shit and I'm not the type of sneak this you bro I don't want to respect that shit I'm feeling to say your name like ain't no other way around it I'm fin to say your name

and let you know this about you. You know what I'm saying? But it was probably like, I really can't recall, but I know that who I smoked shit, that snippet been up. So I knew it was going to drop soon. I just went thinking about the shit, you know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah. It kind of hit in a whole different way too, because they, you know, there's something like, like, there's so many disc songs, like when I was listening to a lot of the disc songs leading up to this shit, it was like, y'all were making traditional type of diss songs. And this shit was like, oh, let's make pop songs

hating on each other. And to be fair, Your response was crazy. That shit had been stuck in my head for the past week. Yeah. But listen to know, that, you heard the beatbox. You probably didn't hear that. Oh, yeah. When we was in their hood and shit.

So, boom, that was not no response. That was just me and my cousin, Cojack, we were doing some, let's just shoot this video real quick, on these niggas block real quick. You just showed them like, y'all faking. This is what it is. So after we shot that, I went to Miami. And then I was going through my DMs and my comments. Everybody was spamming my shit.

Do Fantasota when I see you, told the internet download the beat, and it was history after that. Like, that shit went all crazy. Yeah, yeah. Did you have anyone... Like, that song sounds is so different than your...

A lot of your other songs. I feel like I've seen comments with people suggesting that maybe you had some help writing that or putting that together. Is that a possibility? Yeah, I know. I freestyle everything. When I'm in the studio, bro,

like, I freestyle everything. Punching, punch in, punch in, is all I do. Right. Punch in. I mean, at the very least, you can say that, is that throughout all this bullshit, there has been some pretty good music come out of it. Hell, yeah.

And it's sad. That's how jazz bill got to be looked at right now, too. I'd be thinking about all that shit, bro. Like, I'm really blowing up off this song, like, real deal, my life's changing. Like, that shit crazy. Right, like, that's always the thing in the rap game is that if something really bad happens to you,

there's positive shit, like, that comes with it. Like, you know, a lot of people would think that having a really popular diss song about you would be bad, but you're getting all these followers. Labels. Yeah. Money going up. Shows.

follow everything, but I'm like, damn, this is how this shit happened. Thank you. Thank you. Is that a little bit of that? Damn, y'all should have been to why I was hard. You know what I'm saying? But fuck it is. Definitely.

All right, so when you first heard that song, though, I saw the video, describe how you felt in terms of, like, your actual emotional state. Like, were you angry? Are you so jaded to people dissing your dead friends? No, because I said, like, I've been heard the song for, like, the snippet and all that. So I knew it was going to drop. I just ain't no win. You know what I said?

And then they dropped it. So I was like, damn. It is what it is because I do the same thing. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I really, I really weren't mad. Do you think, or was there anything about, like, just them being on a golf course that kind of piss you off? Like, why are you having so much fun with this?

Nah, hell not. Because I don't do, like, way more, you know what I'm saying? This is true. Yeah. I don't do. I don't do other shit, you know what? Right. Yeah.

Do you ever have any close calls when you're, like, pulling up to op neighborhoods to film videos and shit like that? Is there ever anything where it came close Like the wrong person popping out? Hell no We were hanging out Showing our ass Saw that shit doing the beat box All the type of shit

We were hanging out, man You got spot and got him All wrapped up and all this shit That's my little brother Like dirt where I'm dead home watch I don't think he's from This is what he's from Yeah

Yeah that's my little bro Was that trippy though to see his whole career Just take this huge leapfrog Off of a TikTok? Bro, I watched him record that song Bro. I watched the bro do that shit And it's crazy because that song had like 10 million views Four Pushed out on that bit

Yeah yeah but that bit blew up though I was looking at a little bro like and he's so funny and screting He don't give a fuck about none of this shit I promise bro I'd be like bro He didn't even do the dance for real Yeah he didn't do the challenge yet He still hasn't really huh Yeah he didn't do that shit

Yeah he don't give a fuck about this shit He's just getting his money by I'm like yeah That must be pretty surreal to be like a young ass jit from Florida And all of a sudden you got so weedy dancing to your shit What are you telling And then one day you can blow Just like that one thing second right you give a fuck about TikTok yeah that shit cool it's cool I don't know how to make the videos

me neither I got somebody who does it for me but yeah that shit cool though it can blow you up I guess saw just that new generation of promotion any which way you got to get it you know I heard I heard it could blow you up while I seen you know what I'm saying yeah yeah definitely um so you said you weren't like pissed off when you first seen the video or whatever did it piss you out did it upset you seeing the reaction and seeing it go so big and just having everybody talk about it. When I saw like certain people I thought that fought with me saying anything about the whole song, it's about that certain part when they're saying my dad brother's name. Like I'm pretty sure majority everybody knows going on for real.

From the dead people who are dead all that. So I don't go fuck by you saying that part. But my dad home brother, like I think that shit's serious. Like you know what I'm saying? Yeah, like if you want to sing along to the Who I Smoke part and then put somebody else's name it, we all done that. It's all funny. We all making fun of our friends or whatever.

but it really is kind of a sick thing if you're just like a random-ass person who lives in a nice house and you out here singing shit joking around about shit like that. That just shows how far away from that you are. You tagging me in it, trying to antagonize me,

trying to get a reaction. Hell yeah, that I'm looking at shit like, why are you playing like that? You know what I'm saying? For real. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we had that conversation a lot

about like what needs to happen for a lot of this tension and all these different states. Like, you know, it's not just Florida. It's not just Jacksonville. It's just there's so much this shit. And there's always, not always, but there's a lot of times really popular music attached to it, which just makes everything way worse. It's kind of like, I don't know, a lot of people, we just

kind of are wondering, like, how do we get to the point of this not being the way things are done? Or how do, is there any possible way when we look at a situation like this? Like Jacksonville right now is like the way we look at Chicago. Like, it's just never going to, it's never going to, it's never going to be better. I ain't on cap. It's so many, like I said, there's so many neighborhoods and shit going on. I don't, I don't see. I don't see. you know, stop nothing what's going on in the jazs where the police don't solve shit. They don't do shit. Like, you know what I'm saying?

They don't solve no murder, bro. They don't do, you know what I'm saying? They don't give a fuck about us in real life. They want us to keep doing this shit, you know what I'm saying? Why the shit's so fucked up? I don't know. Kind of makes their job easier. Easy.

You ain't got to do shit, sit on your ass. Yeah. I mean, you think that, like, the murder rate being so high would be a bad thing for the police force, but I don't know if there's anybody really holding them to account for that. I'm not. I mean, not, though. Yeah. Um, in your mind is like, is there anything that could happen, though, that would make at least this shit stop playing out in music?

Or do you think that it's kind of just destined that the shit that's really happening is going to be expressed to the music as well? Uh, well, it was already been sad and done. It's been sad and done. So I don't know, girl. I ain't going to be honest. I don't know. I really don't know. If you never heard somebody else talk about you or your dead friends ever again, do you think it would necessarily occur to you to be? talking about that like like we if for some reason your obj just stop rapping about you would you feel like I'm just gonna stop rapping about them it's not even a reason to do it anymore yeah I do that but they just gotta be like on some real deal real nigger shit like you can't be fake with this shit you know what I'm saying I ain't no pressed up out of a nigga because I know it's going on in the streets for real you know

yeah interesting do you feel like by leaving Jacksonville that in any way that looks crazy to people or are you worried at all about what their receptions that is? I don't know. I'm grown-ass man. They got to respect that. What you want me to have been in the hood? All my life fucked up, getting hot out of all. I'm going to have to pay my own bond, pay my own lawyer fees.

I die I'm going to have to pay for the funeral. There's a lot of fuck shit, though. It comes with it, like, you know what I'm saying? So people really was proud of me. It sometimes feels like the fans really do want that, though. They really think you should just be on the block for the rest of your life, even if you got a million dollars. Because they hear that gangster music and all that.

You know what I'm saying? So that's what they expect in 24-7. Can we also kind of blame you for, like, the Red 4-X and the Fly Soldiers of the world? What is that? You don't know about them? Oh, I'm tripping. Oh, bro. They were just on my lie, bro.

Right. Oh, bro. I don't know what to them. I don't even know, bro. Hey, man, Florida. There's a lot going on. There's something in the water. They weird.

Hell. I don't know. It's either in the water, in the dreds, and the gold. I don't know what the hell it is. Something going on. Man. And I listened to one of their videos like three times already just showing people, and I still don't know one single word that they were saying in that shit.

It's like, la la la la la. I don't know it, bro. I ain't even listen to one of these songs. I just saw them on my Instagram live, and they kept saying, add them. So I added, bro. Yeah. If you were to be asked to do a feature. with them you think you could do it or?

Hell no. They gotta pay me. Yeah, they're gonna pay, of course, but like, would you do a feature with somebody that you maybe didn't respect just because, you know, the bag was looking right? Uh, I ain't gonna count. It really depends, because I'm gonna have to meet you

in person to feel your vibe. Like, I'm a vibe type person, like, I want to feel your vibe, like, you know what I'm saying? Right. It depends, though. Definitely. Yeah, yeah. What was up with this video, you and young boy, back in the day?

It was like, you were sort of like, coming at young boy right what was that video and can you explain that now um he had a show in jazoville bro and i went pulling up on some old checking the internet made that checking and shit bro i because i kept having him like in his songs he'd be like what you're on foolio foolio fullio my name foolio the fans done sent me there 20 many times young boy talking about you bro right like if you go on youtube right now and say NBA young boy foolio did this before everything and those bids just got views for us. I'm like,

what the fuck? So boom. So when I pulled up on him, I'm pulling up on him to see like, what do filial mean? Like, that's what we're trying to ask him, but you know how he'd get pulled up on so much. He's like, who are these niggas? Like, you know what I'm saying? So when we pulled up, it was a whole totally different story.

Like, you know what I'm saying? He was like hiding like in the door to the hotel room. He didn't come out. Like, it was just some whole other shit, bro, movie shit. Right. Yeah, yeah. So I'm assuming you didn't respect the way that your criticisms were dealt with there? You didn't appreciate the way he went about it?

It wasn't even that. He really went trying to like he went and trying to holl at me, bro. He was just on some old like tough, fake paranoid. I don't know what he was on, bro. He just went and trying to, I don't know how we approach the situation. We pulled

up to that bit deep as hell. I don't know, bro. If you're a rapper, that can be pretty intimidated when you've got like a hundred fucking young jits, as they say, coming at you. Yeah, I don't I kind of can't blame him for being a little worried about that situation. Yeah, but when I'm walking up, too, I'm telling him, bro, we ain't known that, bro. I just want to talk to you real quick, bro.

I just want to talk to you. He's saying some old boy, boy, boy, some whole other shit. I don't even know what he was fucking saying. Right. Yeah, that shit went shit, though. But nothing happened with that after or anything? Nah, he wasn't a little major shit, man. I got you.

All right. I wanted to ask about this video, too. Is there somebody recently tried to press you in the mall? Oh, yeah. That shit went a little viral at the time. What was that situation? Bad. I'm walking through the motherfucking.

This Super Bowl weekend in Tampa. We walking through the mall, some fucking fan. You know, I'm a rap, nigger. Like, and I got people with me. We pulled up. So he was walking up, talking about a fool little, some shit he said. Basically trying to get some clout, bro. Pulled out of his phone with me.

Why don't get my fool that chitful a lady? He's telling him, fool-lil. I forgot what the fuck he said. He said some shit. But I'm telling him, like, bro. Anything that happened right here in this mall, all that's going to go to jail, bro. All that got guns on us.

I don't know what you on, bro. You're ready to risk your life. We got shit going on for real. I don't know about you. You ready to throw your shit away. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, that shit went shit, though. Because you said I had an ankle monitor on.

You said you had an ankle monitor on? No, he had an ankle monitor on. Oh, really? Okay. The nigger who was caught had an ankle monitor on. So I'm like, what the fuck? It's like, police shit. Like, what the fuck?

When I was watching that video, I was like, this is the ultimate situation where Fulio is in a position where a dude is basically trying to punk him out, but then this guy has nothing to lose in the situation because he gets to do this and if you punch him in the face, boom, it's a lawsuit, it's a case, it's all this shit.

And then think about it like this, man. It's two of them, two, three of them. It's like six, seven of us, so we're going to beat y'all ass. You know what I'm saying? That's not no problem. And if y'all take it, we're going to take it there, but it's just the point, bro.

Like, you got on the anchor mom. It's a thousand police. We're in the full court. So it's a thousand police right here. You want to do the most. let's at least take it out of the side or some shit. But what you want to do, you want to go live, this, this, and that. So if anything happening, they come in the folio.

You know what I'm saying? It'd be shit like that. People know how to trip people out the streets for real. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that shit is crazy. Yeah, yeah. I mean, your platform's larger than ever. You got, like, more people paying attention than ever.

Yeah. From your perspective, way do you take it from here? Like, I mean, and it feels like even like your music, like, the new music, like, even outside of the disc part and everything, I feel like it's a lot of the best music I ever heard from you. And stylistically, it's kind of making you break out of the style that you fucked with before. And, like, I got some, like, songs I'm from to drop my mid-taic. It's just going to show them.

I'm not no disc rapper. That was just to get bad. Like, I'm real, like, talented as fuck. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I could do whatever melodic type songs sang again. Like, I'm versatile as hell. Like, you know what I'm saying? But I'm just showing them, like, I'm here to stay.

Like, I got my foot in a doughnut. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I'm here to stay. state of home show no yeah man Florida's on fire definitely we got a whole different scenery it's crazy there's so many like popping rappers from all over the fucking state and then unfortunately it's also like you know every every week you go to hear about a different rapper getting shot at or whatever but I mean who you tell it it's in the water who you tell it's in the water it's in the water

that's real um I don't know anything you're excited about that you got coming up anything we need to know about oh I got a big-ass video shoot tomorrow at this high school that shit gonna be lit as hell damn really yeah I'd be gonna be like some high school music or shit like real deal lit wow that's interesting they're gonna be lit on game and then I got like two missed taste from the drop is just you on the on that song or is it somebody else it's just me it's just me that'd be hard then that sounds more involved than a lot of your videos in the past like normally your videos are kind of running gun on the street and yeah like this like the rest the what you're often to see on now it's gonna be straight high quality high production

I ain't no, none of that. We're going like full-thought of. Because now that you have so many more people paying attention to you, it's kind of like a different expectation where if you just keep dropping like superfire videos and each song you put out is really, really good, then I feel like you could hold on to more and more of that audience rather than them just sort of trickling away and falling off as fans.

Who you're telling? And what I'm going to do? Like, I got a plan. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're feeling like, do it. Like, for real, it's going to go out, though. Just watch me in like the next two months. I went, yeah.

For sure. It's exciting. You've been fielding all these label meetings? Any of them seem interesting? Yeah, I fought with Craig Music, though. Like, them are people like, they've been showing me good love. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's what I'm going to fuck well.

But I don't have been to a thousand. It's just, like, it got to make sense to me. Like, we got to have a chemistry. I ain't trying to get put on no shelf. I am not on none of that. If I do that, I'd rather just sit back and own all my shit. Keep doing what I'm doing. Because you can make a pretty good living off of streaming,

shows merch. That what I'm doing right now. I'm straight for real. Like, I'm straight. Like, really, I'm good right now. So if a label come to me, they got to be talking like some numbers. Yeah. Respect.

All right. Fulio. Appreciate you, man. Fulio. You heard. Fulio. No Jumper. Coolest podcast on World takes on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes.

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