No Jumper - The Geechi Gotti Interview: Compton, Popularizing Cripping in Battle Rap, Retiring Daylyt & More

Episode Date: November 3, 2021

Off the heels of his recent battle at Drake's #TilDeath battle this past weekend, Geechi gives his feedback, shares his experience and what he's got in the works! https://www.instagram.com/geechi_gotti/ ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kichigotti is in the building. How you feeling, man? I'm here, man. Feeling good, man. Feel real good. Yeah, I mean. Anyone who wasn't impressed Saturday, I don't think they know what they're talking about because I saw you go head to head.

Loaded Lux. Now, granted, it was kind of a biased room. You think so? I would say maybe like 80% of the building was Crips. In particular, the people who were standing on stage behind you. Yeah, they was Crips. But, you know, but they was unbiased crips, though. You know what I'm saying?

Like, if he was nice, nice like that, like, because he is nice, but I think he's been better, too, though. Like, so I ain't going to say that. That was the best luck stack, because luck's done been better than that, too, though. So I think that kind of was the reason why he lost the battle. Right. I asked you about what your thoughts were going into this before you actually did the battle. You were, like, you were sort of vague with it. Like, be a little bit more specific.

now. How do you feel going into that battle? Like, what was your actual strategy that you felt you needed to bring to the table to vanquish him? Man, like, I just knew I had to really come 100%. Like, you can't, I mean, I'll do that every battle, though. Like, throughout my whole career, that's where I got to the level I'm at. I'm looked at as, like, one of the most consistent. Like, you're going to get the same level every time. It all matter of the big, small, you know what stage, you're going to get that same level out of me. So my mindset on this one was to just do what I do. I think usually when you battle dudes like Lux or like people try to change their style. You know what I'm saying?

Because Lux is considered like a pen and more lyrical. So usually when you battle him, you try to showcase that you can write so intricate and do all this shit too. But I'm like, that ain't what they want from Gichi. You know what I'm saying? Like they won't got it to be me. Like, you know what I'm saying? Go up there calling him a hundred bitches. Marks talk gang shit, talk crazy.

You know what I'm saying? Be in his face disrespect his mama's kid. Like that's my style. So I'm like, I'm going to do that times 10 though. You know what I'm saying? Because that's what they want to see. So my mindset was before the battle, just not even let him feed off my energy, though. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, not do no face off, not no ride, I don't do that anyway, but not even like for the, just because I could have did that to hype it up because it's such a big battle. Drake, all the part of it, like, let's sell the fight, let's make it bigger. You know what I'm saying? But nah, fuck all that. I don't even want none of that type of energy. I want him to not even know what to expect when he's getting there with me. You know what I'm saying?

I think I executed that. Wow. So, okay, on a scale of 1 to 10, how important is it for you to win every battle that you go with too. Like, like, how important, and deep down in your soul, is that, like, the only thing that matters to you in that moment? In that moment, nah, it ain't, like, to have the best performance, like, because it's opinionated in battle, right? Unless it's a judge battle. Right. You know what I'm saying? So if it ain't judge, it's always going to be somebody trying to say another person won no matter what, you know what? So the win is kind of subjective. It's more so

like, you want to go out there and leave, no doubt that you did your thing. You know what I'm Like you say, with so many people in the building, whether they felt you win or lost, you want them to leave. Like, no, who was him, though? Like, you know what he was saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, I remember, I don't really remember who won and lost, but I remember he said something. So it's to make sure you create them moments that stick out.

Within the first hour of me being there, I probably actually had 20 random people that I don't know walk up to me and say, you got to interview Gucci soon. That's dope as a motherfucker, man. Like the level to which that building was behind you was crazy. You would have thought you were the biggest rapper in the fucking world in that environment and it really made me feel awesome about the future of your career

and great about the future of LA as well because man like for me going to my first battle rap event you really get like a family community vibe that I don't think I've ever actually felt a rap show to be honest nah damn that's dope no it's like that for real because you know what I'm saying

battle rap for one just to you know you don't have battle rappers up here but I'm just to break it down more so a lot of these dudes battle, it's like a lot. So we see each other. So it's like a community for real. You know what I'm saying? The matchups might just switch.

Like everybody that was on that card, I already done battle them damn near. You know what I'm saying? And vice versa. So you're seeing each other. So you're starting to meet their at-irah. They know your at-irah. They know your aunt-rah.

So everybody damn near kind of know each other and know each other people for the most part. So it's like that vibe. So yeah. And there's something about like if you, for a profession, say the worst things possible to each other. It's like all that stuff is kind of off the tables.

So it's like, I guess we can just get along. We can be cool now. We shit on each other's hoods. We said shit about each other's girls. We said everything horrible that we could think of. So I guess we might as well just get along. Exactly. So you ain't got to worry about all the extra shit.

It's like we're already doing all the crazy shit. Now y'all can go have drinks together and all that. Like it's like a, it's like a boxing or something. You know what I'm saying? Like a sport like to where it's like you're going to fight. But at the end of it, they're going back to the club together and shit. You know what I'm saying? For real.

100%. So, okay, tell me a little bit about you coming up in Compton and everything. I want to hear about the early days. Okay. You know, just typical stuff, you know what I'm saying? Like any interview I ever had with this question is, it's the same, you know, the same route for anybody that came up in Compton that was outside in that type of area. Like, of course, you know, you know, the gang background. I'm pretty sure everybody watching they've seen it. I got numerous interviews. The street gangs videos are pretty legendary now, you know what I'm saying, you feel me? So I came up in that. And that's what it was. As a youngster,

you know we was around that, but at the same time, I always knew I wanted some more for myself, though. You know what I'm saying? I always could rap. I wasn't that dude, though, that would be, like, rapping at the lunch tables and doing all that, though. Like, I'd just be like, like, my niggas who know me, like, they'd know I can rap.

Like, man, Beelo can rap. Like, you know what I'm saying? God he can rap or whatnot, you feel me? So we had do songs, shout of my boy, Iti. By the time I got in high school, he was making beats, like fruity loops and all that. So he'll send me beats, and then we'd go out, I'll record it in his garage.

He stayed in the hood. I mean, in his closet, he's taking up, we're going, we'll make songs like so. As in a weird build momentum in our neighborhood of people just knowing we could rap, that's what kept pushing me towards the rap. Battling, so to speak, came later. Who told you about battling?

How did you get put onto it? Because for people who maybe don't necessarily understand, which in that case, I don't know why you're watching this interview, but you know, you like kind of are like a whole new face of battle, a whole new style because we really haven't seen somebody, or I'm probably leaving plenty of people out, but we haven't seen somebody reach such heights that you have, that it's from such a background.

And I feel like that's such an amazing thing because it makes me feel like these worlds are bound to just overlap more and more. Because, yeah, it opened the door. Like, for me, I found thought about battle rap, and I used to watch it too. I watched all the loaded luxes, the reed dollars, the mooks and them. Because I can tell you're a huge student

of the game from shit you say. Yeah, you feel me? So I watched it like, I'm like a mug. But when I finally got into it and I started doing it, I realized like, you got a, it's about being authentic. Like I've been coming to battles like that though. Like from my first battle when we ain't getting paid,

I'm coming like all my homeboy support and we're 100 deep going to these battles. You know what I'm saying? So that's really what called a lot of people attention on me early when I did the battle for my league, the riot. This before I became a partner with my guy, Kevin Parks, when he was booking me. King Rico.

Yeah, I'll battle King Rico. Everybody that was at that battle was with me. You know what I'm saying? That was a tough first round for him. You feel me? You know what I'm saying? And even in the background of that, it was like we were still learning.

I was still trying to do punch lines a little bit, trying to figure it out, because that was my first battle on cam. The people with me don't know, like, what to do, because I had like a heckler, like how I just had at that last one at that one. And in my mind, I'm like, all right, I don't really want to say nothing, because I don't know if I say something's gonna make it,

they're gonna think we tripping. I see people on the comments on that, because I immediately went to the comments and I saw a lot of people were like, I'm surprised Gitchie didn't beat the shit out of that dude for doing that to him. I'm real. It did, like, sideboard, like, we did beat the shit out there

that dude that thing better. But see, now we can't do shit like that, but back then, like, it was like, all right, after the battle, let's fuck this dude that. He's getting on our nerve. You know what I'm saying? For real, for real. Like, I think if you go down in them comments long enough as a dude who even explained it, like, man, that dude was knocked out, man.

We came and showed up. There was some dudes sleep after the crazy shit. But yeah, I mean, that was the first battle. But then after that, like, we ain't never been, had no, we never had to do nothing like that. I ain't never had no physical altercations. Any big league, you are real, I never, like, as much as I go through and battle, I'm one of the most humble dudes, you know what I'm saying?

I don't push them type of buttons or try to use that card of, like, violence. Like, you know what I'm saying? I really look at it like a job. You could talk about it, but to me, that would be like an L automatically in a lot of ways. The fans might see it as kind of a W, but it's really like subverting the whole nature of what's beautiful about this art form, you know? Because you're supposed to be able to deter from Nevada's. Like say what you need to say and do. Like if you want to fight, Josh should have just did it before you walked on stage.

You know what I'm saying? You're supposed to be able to accept whatever gets said right now. You know what I'm saying? Even though some things might cross a line every now and then you've got to. kind of like understand with battle rebel people don't know you gotta have that rapport with your opponent too like this off limits you know what I'm saying like my kid just died man don't speak on this and a dude can respect that like man trust me I ain't gonna say that but if you don't got that rapport you never know what's gonna happen but you but you but you oh my god last night I'm like

I got to watch one one more gichi battle before I go to bed the one against arsenal damn yeah who reps grape that part and you said I'm gonna leave you a seedless grape yeah like actually a whole like three four minutes that was basically about murdering his turn child. I was taking the back. I was like, wow, they really just went there. And Arsenal, one of my closest partners in battle rap, though. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, chop it up with him all the time, fuck with him heavy, like, but Arsenal is one of the most disrespectful battle rappers of all times. He gave it right back. He got, you feel what I'm saying? So it's like going into a battle with him, I already know. Like, I got a disrespect.

I'm like, if I don't, then I'm not being true to me. He ain't going to be true to him. So as cool as we went to the club the night before all the shit. He said that in the battle last night in the club talking about anything possible you don't even drink i really don't drink like that you know what i'm saying like so he's saying shit that's really going on that's funny you know what i'm saying like in the battle like we that cool you know so i think that's the beautiful thing like you say about the sport is people who really take it as the profession at this level you know what i mean they understand how to separate the business from you know what i mean from from reality you know what i'm saying yeah that was something i kind of realized Saturday too was like oh from me sitting at home watching this

on youtube i kind of had gotten the idea that it was a little bit more serious than an actually feels in real life because that's another thing about BattleRab is that like, you know, you're headlining the show and you're just out there with the people, like, kicking it, like, not on some rock star shit at all, just like talking to whoever want to talk to you and, like, knowing that you're going to, you're about to go out there and have to do battle and say, like, 15 minutes or more worth of shit that you have to memorize and you were out there, like, it was nothing. Yeah, man, we're the most accessible, like, entertainers in the world, you know what I'm

saying? Like, you know, I move with a team, but at the same time, we, like you say, we still in the midst of the crowd we still like a part of all of that like you can easily just walk away can I get a pick can I get an order whatever you know what I'm saying like a lot of it ain't no VIP sections all the time I mean it is but most people ain't doing that you know what I'm saying

like the ballers is right there in the trenches of that you know what I'm saying so like yeah and it's hard too though to do that and get on stage like you just said that's what motherfuckers don't know how hard it be to do all of that and then still have to get up there and perform because you see dudes we out there drinking they're chilling they might get lacked

they get tired eight hours of standing and sitting and doing all that bullshit, then you gotta get up there and go flawless, and ain't like you can perform no song, and dude can just finish your words for you, like the moment you slip up on a word, boo, you know what I'm saying, when I hear that shit, you feel?

Like I went in back maybe an hour or two before T-Rex battled, and I saw him, and he was in a full zone, like just walking back and forth, rapping his verses over and over and over to himself. Were you ever like that? Or does that help you if you are kind of isolated like that? Yeah, I gotta isolate myself,

but like I can't be the, Like I never, not knocked, I'm not the T-Rex, my God, but I can't be like the dude that you catch walking around rapping it because it fucked me up. Like, I gotta just know it or I know it, you know what I'm saying?

So I go to myself somewhere, isolate myself, relax just to get a peace of mind and then, like, I just know it because for me, overly repetitive, you know what I mean, being repetitive with that stuff and it would make you fuck up, like you over thinking, you know what I'm saying?

Like, I'm more like, I just know I got it once I get up there, it's like, even if I don't got it, once I get on that stage, it's like something click, like, you feel me? Like, you know what I mean? It's showtime. Like, it's now or never.

You know what I'm saying? It's on some warrior shit. You feel I'm saying? So, like, for me, I really probably don't do, like, to that extreme, but I do for sure go to myself right before the battle. Like, even before it is, a lot of people probably didn't notice it, but I, I zoned off four seconds by myself in the cut got right. Then I came out, you know what I'm saying?

It must have just felt like such an amazing W because, you know, you're super close to, like, where you were born, where you were brought up. You got tons of people, like, who are basically, like, the backbone of L.A. Rap music, you know, all the way. from a big you to a crooked eye to Drake, obviously, you know, all these people. In the building. I mean, there's so many questions I could ask,

but I guess one is just like, how the fuck did you get to the point of headlining this so quickly? Like, it feels like in a lot of ways, you know, obviously it's years of grinding, but it happened pretty quick. Like, how do you describe it? Yeah, so for like, okay, like you say, yeah, it has been years of grinding,

but I, uh, within these last recent years in battle rap, I've been on the forefront. of it. You know what I'm saying? I don't want they have an award that they give away at the end of the year that they started about four years ago called champion of the year which is like, I don't won it twice, back to back. And then every year I've been in the top three

that winning it, so even the year I didn't win it, I could have won it. They just probably gave it to somebody else because they tired of seeing me win it type of shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm consistently on the top of that. You know what I mean? Like you said, the following that I bring, the support system I brain, you know what I'm saying? Like, they look at all of that as well, you know what I'm saying?

Like a lot of people don't even, like, I'm talking about, That's not even just in LA. Every state I go to, we like that. You know what I'm saying? That same is going to be 80% crypts if I'm on the card. You know what I'm saying? It's going to be 80% of Compton in the building. If I'm on the car, they're going to come and support like that.

So that also shows, like, you know, as far as in that company, like the type of, you know what I'm saying? Support. I got that other battlers might not got so. I'm headlining. I'm a main event, but I'm not fucking up. You know what I'm saying? Because you can lose that spot fast. Battle rap is a, they love you now.

They hate you. They hate you even faster. You know what I mean? Sport. Like as soon as you choke, mess up one battle, two battles, all, man, he trash now. You know what I'm saying? You could have had 10 great performances.

You mess up twice, they don't want to see you. You're a big, like a presence in the room, even if you're not in the room at that battle because there's like so many of the other rappers felt the need to like reference you in their bars. Like, you know, like, I mean, that was kind of surprising. I heard my name a lot. I get that every battle now, though, but that's how it is.

You know what I'm saying? Like you say, it's just a presence that actually. come with it, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? I take it all in humbly, though. You know what I'm saying? Because to get to this point, it was a long road. You know what I'm saying?

Like, it was a long road. It was times where, like, I was at the bottom of them cards. You know what I'm saying? Where I would have to exceed expectations because people looking like, all right, this dude from Compton, who is he, Gichi, got he got he got. We got loaded Lux on the car. We got Murder Moog on the car. We got Sousuf on the car.

We got, you know what I mean? All these different names. They're like, I'm having the overshow out in order to keep up. You know what I'm saying? with the star power those dudes at that time you know what I'm saying so it's been a long road to afford to switch around and now the tawy's turn what was the appeal to you in the first place because I imagine you probably weren't getting paid that much to start like when you were doing that battle in the alley we were just talking about what was driving you to actually pursue that though

man just just just the motivation of just like trying to find a way to do something else like besides the streets you know what I'm saying you feel me because at the end of the day you know it's the same story you know I'm saying like it's gonna be jail or death like you know I'm saying, if you really out here like that, you know what I'm saying? So if I'm pushing myself this way, like my homeboy, KP, who was, who was booking them alleyway battles at that time, he probably gave you $100 or something. $200 and got it like that, but it's like, all right, fuck it. And all my people's get in.

So we go somewhere, he booked out a club in Orange County. We in there, we turn the battle into a party afterwards, like fuck it. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's giving us something to do. So me, I'm like, all right, if I can turn it into something. So I think about 2017, when I really had, like, my first big battle on URL, I battle Ave. I just went to jail and I got bailed out. So once I bailed out, they

booked me versus AF. So I'm battling him the whole time. I'm on bill. And the company URL, even King of the Dodd at the time was helping me out with the bail and stuff. And they just, you know, just letting me know, like, man, like, this is serious, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can make money in this, but, you know, you got to stay out of trouble. You know what I'm saying? You can't be getting locked up.

And we're trying to, you know what I'm saying? It was traffic. It was the first big event in LA, disaster battle TARAT. You know what I'm saying? I was one of the, like, earlier battles on that card. You know what I'm saying so I'm going through that then I show out versus Av and everybody like talking about it like oh man get you got it but it's like the whole time the back of my head

like man I'm probably fin out to go to jail or some bullshit you know what I'm saying so this don't even matter so as after I went and did the stint got out real you know what I mean through the blessings of God I'm like man you know what man I need to take this shit serious though you know what I'm saying so I spoke with like the company shut out Beasley Chico smacking all them

organic in them over there all the leagues that I got good relationships with like hey I'm gonna come work You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna be ready to work, but it's got to make sense. You know what I'm saying? And since then, you know, it's been making sense. Like every battle, you know what I'm saying?

My price go up every battle. You know what I'm saying? They kept me active too, though. Like, I'm letting them know. Like, bro, I got to be getting booked like because if I got idle time, I'm gonna be in the hood. I got nothing else to do, you know what I'm saying? Like, you feel me?

So every, that's why I was battling so consistently. Like, I'm battling like every month. You know what I'm in New York this month? I'm in North Carolina this month. I'm in Houston, Texas, this month. Like, they kept me going, you know what I'm saying? Just to keep me out of trouble, so to speak, and then I just uphill my end of the bargain by being consistent.

What's the difference between getting ready for loaded looks and getting ready for one of these smaller battles that you were doing at that time? Like, how much more time are you putting into it? How much more difficult is it for you to figure that out in your head? It's difficult. This battle, though, real crazy thing about it is I didn't really even have that much time for luck because I just battled Calico in Houston September 25th. So I had like 30 days for Lux for real, you know what I'm saying?

But I took that 30 more serious than if I just had 30 days for some random dude. Like I got to give him the full 30. Like I got to go in the room, close a door, you know what I mean, and just write and pay attention and really get on my shit. I can't play around. Somebody else I know I could probably beat them at like 50%. You know what I'm saying? I can get in there half half my shit, freestyle a little bit and my star power over, you know what I'm saying?

Over XZ because it's that type of sport. You know what I'm saying? To where they're going to cheer for who they coming to see. So if I'm going against like, you know what I mean, future strips, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to our sponsor. If you want to eat some weed products. On the real. I got this for you.

He got that. You feel me? So if I'm battling this person, somebody that they probably didn't know as a battle rapper, and he come out and he's just okay. And I've come on. I'm a little bit okay. I got more of a name, more of a buzz. I'm going to be at a win, you know what I'm saying?

But Loaded Lux, his power matches mine. He's like that. So I got to come 100%. Bar has got to be on point. Stage, presence, delivery, everything got to be on 10. So like it's a totally different preparation when it comes to balance somebody like him way different. Is it a, do you love that process

of like having to, you know, took yourself away for a few hours per day for a while? I hate that shit. What does it look like? Is it you in your room? Do you go to fucking Starbucks? Where are you going? I don't, I do so much different shit, man.

Like me, I can't, I can't even afford to do that because we got so much shit going on, man. You know what I'm saying? Business while we got no studios, y'all see the clothing. You feel? So we got clothing. We're doing all day. I got a great thing.

team, as you can see. So they help getting all the stuff all. We got, I'm doing podcasts two times a week with no studio on network. I'm running around doing other shit, music studio. So I really don't be having a time for it. But at the same time, when I do make time, that's what I got to do. Like, I got a, I got kids at home, you know what I'm saying? I got a wife. So they understand my whole family, everybody understands. Everybody understands. It'd be days where I can't even answer the phone. I got to be like, all right, man, door locked. Yeah, I can't come out for about four, five hours and try to like get to this shit, you know what I'm saying? But I'm probably, the thing that most people probably won't

know it's I'm a procrastinator like a motherfucker though so even as much as all that I'm saying I still don't do all that to like probably the last 14 days like so even though I got 30 days of doing that the last 14 but that's when I'm really lock in but since I've been doing it so long it's mental condition it's like sports you know what I'm saying like if you're a boxer and you get you know how to train you know how to like get back in shape when it's time to get in boxing weights you feel me yeah when it's time for a battle I know like how much time I need you know what I'm saying so the average dude probably can't do what I do you know what I'm saying but me like I'm trained mentally to do this shit.

Like, I've been doing it so long, like going on four years of battling every 30 days, like, you know what I'm saying? Do you feel like, was there a little bit of a hesitation for you early on because you probably didn't really, like, understand the battle route thing. You might have, like, from a gangbanger

perspective, the shit got to seem like kind of corny, right? And don't you feel like probably a ton of people that you're associated with think that it's dope now? Who might have thought it was some weird shit before? I get a gang of out of people that's like, man, I watch this shit because of you. Like, now I can relate to it.

It's some real, you know what I mean? Some street shit involved. in it, like, definitely was early on looking like being a gangbanger as far as in that sense of, like, I still, we got code of conduct, so I still conduct myself a certain way. I'm not fend to get up there and do nothing on stage that I wouldn't do, you know what I'm saying, in the streets, so I'm not going, if I'm battling a blood, I'm not going to diss bloods or something like that, but in battle rap, it was people that do that, you know what I'm saying? So that's a learning curve that I have to go through of, like, you know, understanding,

like you might hear somebody try to say crab because I'm a crippling, that's the way of trying to make the bar hit, you know what I'm saying? Or something like that. If they're outside of it, they might not know that that can make a lot of people. That can make a lot of people. Exactly. So that's the learning curve. They have to learn.

You know what I'm saying? Where it's like you can do this right here, but you can't just do this everywhere. Certain things are over the line. So if you see, I'm not doing it. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying? It's serious you could think of something else to do because it's bigger than just these bars.

Like you could do that and that footage forever. So somebody could see you somewhere else and want to ask you about that. They ain't got nothing to do with me. I understand. I'm getting paid. you know what I'm saying but somebody outside might not be so yeah that that type of learning curves of it but you know what I mean for the most part yeah now I don't think it's corny no more I don't think it's looked at like that like that no more since I've been in it like you said you know what I'm saying you got to like you got fucking like you're like fucking like you said Drake and all these people Remy Maher people in the building that's like street you know I mean rappers and street you know I mean you know I mean influencers that that's coming in paying attention to it you feel me so I don't think it's even looked at like that at all no more you know what I'm sorry definitely um I'm kind of jumping over the place here but it's all good when we go back to those street gang videos, it just seems like a very different

person who's walking around describing his existence. Like, what was your best case scenario at that time? What was your hope and could you have ever imagined yourself being as productive and as successful as you managed to become? Yeah, I mean, like, even if you

watched that, I always had like a sense of self and, like, self-awareness, you know what I'm saying, and understanding like the environment. You know what I'm saying? I didn't let this shake me. Like I'm within it, I'm still saying, if you're watching this, if you're a youth watching this, don't gang man. And ain't going to get you nothing but dead or in jail. You know what I'm saying?

Like, the average person probably ain't going to tell somebody that. You know what I'm saying? It's like, oh, man, look, they're crippling their blood and they're getting money. They're hanging out. They look like a fun thing to do, man. Like, man, all our friends is dead. You know what I'm saying? Or dogging we kids.

You know what I'm saying? We start at 12. Like, I'm not no dude who start banging at 21 and all that shit. Like, I don't understand them. I'm talking about, like, we're 12. So we like, imagine you got a 12-year-old son. You dig what I'm saying? And he's banging though.

Like, really banging though. Like, outside with guns and drugs and grown-ass men. Like, who could tell him, like, shut the fuck up, fire him up. He can't go in the house and tell his mama. He just got fired on by a 25-year-old dude because he ain't do what he was supposed to do. And within the laws of the gang, you dig what I'm saying? You feel me? Like, that's the side they don't understand.

Like, you feel me? Like, so that right there was what I was doing on that interview telling him, like, this ain't what you, this ain't the life to be portraying. Now, this is what it is because it is. You know what I mean? Like the protection of the neighborhood, the family, all of that, that's the good parts of it. But it's still a flip side. You know what I'm saying?

That it's wars going on. People die young. People go to jail for protecting their self or protecting their loved ones. And you might not never see them again. And then when you don't see them again, you might only got one or two of them that still contact them and still look out for them when they're in that place. They might not never get to talk to their childhood friends again. You did what I'm saying? Because niggas done moved on.

Niggas done. Niggas ain't got, you know what I mean? Got time to talk to you or whatever. You feel me? So that was my whole thing. At that mindset at that time was just like I know I can't be doing this all day. You know what I'm saying? As much as I love it, I can't, I can't be the dude 50, 60 still on the block trying to tell

niggas to go put it at work. Like that's not my move. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm cool on that. You know what I'm saying? I need something else going on. You feel me? So I was pushing.

I kept pushing and, you know what I'm saying? I believe and I pray. You know what I'm saying? So it's like my faith always was on some like if I keep doing the right thing, eventually it's going to turn over. You know what I'm saying? So the battling just was the first thing to turn it over. Like I was doing music.

I'm doing other shit too, but the battling was, I never would have thought that battling would have introduced me to cash like Drake and all these different, you know what I'm saying? Never in a million years, but you know, it's just staying consistent that. You know what I mean? And they ended up turning off like that. You know what I mean? It took me from that to this right here, you know what I'm saying?

What would you say to people, I see a few little comments here and there. What would you say to people who feel like people like Drake putting a battle rap event or probably even someone like me, interviewing you is kind of like a bad thing that like the culture needs to remain hardcore, et cetera. You shouldn't be friendly to tourists. How do you feel when you hear that kind of thing? No, no, no, you need that for it to grow, you know what I'm saying?

Like anybody saying something with don't involve Drake or somebody or any type of millionaire celebrity don't be involved don't even make sense. Like you feel me like, why not like keep it like, nah. They're trying to get money. They're trying to advance it. You know what I'm saying? Bringing more eyes to it. Bringing more awareness to it.

Yourself doing the same thing. you know what I'm saying, using your own platform, it's cross-brand and cross-promoting. So, nah, I would say for whoever that is, they're foolish, you know what I'm saying, because you wanted to grow in order for it to get past that level of just being just some street, you know what I mean, back and forth, boys, like you wanted to be able to make money enough to where the youth can see that they can do this. Like, okay, if I can, this could be a career path now for somebody,

and it might change over the years to where it's not as, I know some people probably wanted to always remain as, as grimy as it is, but at the same time, it could be something where it might not be as, you know what I mean, grimy, so then it can fit everywhere all over the world, you know what I'm saying? There used to be a lot more grimy, per se, than it is now. People like you're making serious money off of it and shit.

I mean, that wasn't necessarily the case. It wasn't the case back then. I was saying that in the battle. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, the shit we get now, y'all, you feel me? Like, caffeine, the company that is streaming on, it's like a multimillion-dollar deal with the URL, you know what I'm saying? Like, you feel me?

Like, so, and this stuff, the art battles get, promotion on Fox and billboards all across LA in different states, you know what I'm saying? So this shit is like way to another level than people probably even imagine, for real, for real. Right. Yeah, is it does it feel strange to you in some

ways that you could be like the biggest fucking thing in battle rap? But then meanwhile, to a certain extent, amongst like a more mainstream audience or whatever, you're still kind of like fighting in a sense to be recognized on the level that you know that you should be. Yeah, no, it is strange on the real. You know what I'm saying?

It's like, it's different, you know what I'm saying? But in a way, it plays both sides because it's some people that know me that don't even know certain other people because aren't, you know what I mean? There be people that hit you up from Africa. Like, you know what I mean? Like, Gichi, you're the greatest, you know what I'm saying? You feel me? They probably don't even know some, because there's a lot of rappers that got millions of fans. I don't even know.

You know what I'm saying? So it just depends on what you're into. But I definitely know, like, battle rap has its own world, though. Like, if you ain't, if you into it, like the millions of people that's into it, you. you probably bigger than Drake to some of them. You know what I'm saying? Like, because they watch you consistently, but it's a world outside of that

that I think that once you can match the two worlds, which I think that's what they're trying to do, then it would help, you know what I mean, bring more awareness to these dudes and, you know what I mean, make them bigger stars than they already is. Was that, like, a learning curve for you, having to get used to the fact that you are making content

for people who are coming from a totally different perspective than the people that you grew up around? Hell yeah, you know what I'm saying? Because you get people that, that hits you up, up and you know like I had a bar where I said you know I'm saying a Pondad years ago you know what I'm saying his mama still paying his phone bill just so she could call and hear I'm talking the voicemail people from the streets can relate to that you know what I'm saying like you know what I mean but the ironic thing is people that used to hit me up I don't have old

white ladies like I still paid my son phone bill because he died from cancer and he used to talk and I wanted to hear that you know so you never know who be watching this and what type of people be to that and what you said that affected them. Them being people that just, like, man, I felt this because I was going through this and you said this bar and it made me feel away. And it'd been the hardest street dudes tass all in their face would be like, man, because when you said that,

that was what I was going through. That's one of the reason why I only listen to you. So it's all walks to life really watch this shit. That's a hard bar by any standard. That just kind of hit me. I was like, damn, that's some real that shit. But is there ever a part of you that's like this shit is too hard for a battle?

It should save it for a song or vice versa? Like, this is too hard for a song, I should say that for the battle. It's been times where I said shit in battles where I was like, damn, man, if I just would have a dope-ass beat behind this round right here, they could have a million by now, but it's like, you know, it's just be timing, too, you know what I'm saying? Because I said shit in songs that I'd be like, damn, I should have used in the battle. Sometimes I might take something out of battle and still put it in a song,

depending on how I'm feeling. But for the most part, yeah, you know what I'm saying? It is times where it's like, because even in battles, it'd be like, if I'm going against a certain opponent, I'm like, no, I can't say that to him. it's too much for him. He ain't even, he don't need all that. You know what I'm saying? Let me scrap that and say this for somebody that day.

You know what I mean? That's more dope. You're writing your phone or you got like notebooks at home? I write in my phone. Okay. For real, for real. Like I used to do the notebook shit. I really don't even do the, sometimes I don't do the phone shit.

Like I'm trying to learn how to get it more in my, you know what I mean in my head and like come up with it because I freestyle a lot. You know what I'm saying? So I try to like learn as much as I can because I had battles where my whole phone done crashed right before the battle. and then I'd be fucked like oh damn what the fuck I'm gonna do now so I'm trying to learn how to get it more so to where I'm just you know I'm I'm I got a like a photogenic memory so if I see it a few times I can just say it to myself that's interesting because that's what I was thinking I think that every time I watch a battle it's like this is fucking amazing just the fact that they can remember like a half hour worth of raps is pretty fucking wild really for real for real yeah I got photographic memory like I see the words on the paper while I'm rapping you know what I'm saying like as I'm saying it to him like that shit just popping up and my head like it's on my phone. Right.

That shit crazy. I was really impressed by Rum Nitty. That's my God. At the battle as well. How did you guys become close? Was he battling before you? Did he get into it through you? No, he's been battling before me.

He's from Phoenix, Arizona. I ain't know any person when we was younger, nothing like that. But once we know, of course, the affiliation, he equipped, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, we used to go take them trips out of town because it wasn't big on the West. You know what I'm saying?

Battle Rap, as you see now, it's getting there. And now it's like they say in the West run, battle rap and this is where the culture is, but years ago it wasn't like that. It was strictly East Coast, you know what I'm saying, and shit like that. So when we were battle over there, that's what would be like made our camaraderie closer

because it's like we both coming from the West, everybody over here don't wanna cheer for us. So now we gotta stand behind each other in battles and I gotta be like, man, gout, nigga, he's saying some hard ass shit, fuck y'all hating folk, you know what I'm saying? So that made us be closer as we going to war against other people's favorites in their town

and just having to be close. So we would, we gained that bond throughout the years of just going, going on the roads, you know what I'm saying? We would make sure we'd be on the same car. If they hit me, for sure, for show. You'll hit Nitty, put Nitty on me, I'm saying. If they hit him, hey, make so Goddy battling somebody too.

You know what I'm saying? And they would always do that. So we would probably have about four, five, six events back to back to back, just traveling together, catching these planes, catching these flights, being in these hotels and just spawning and making sure we was on top of our game and we just became like brothers in this shit, you know what I'm saying?

Right. Do you see a lot of people, like, from where you grew up in shit, trying to, who want to emulate you, or who even come to you and say, like, how do I fucking dip my toe into this? Yeah, hell yeah, man. On this coast now, it's a lot of up-and-coming battleers that's dope doing their thing, you know what I'm saying? Like, and a lot of them tell me now, like, bro, I'm doing this because of you.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like now I can do it, like, dudes from different hoods. Like, now I see a lane that I can use. I don't have to just be some punchline dude. I can tell my story, you know what I'm saying? And I think that's what the lane I opened up is a lane that just telling your story. You know what I'm saying? People want to hear that.

Where are you from? You know what I'm saying? Like, speak that into a battle. You know what I'm saying? Because it's a thousand people in the crowds, you know what I'm saying? Like, 500 of these motherfuckers might have been from the same shit you from. So just talk your shit, you know what I'm saying? So I think, yeah, it's a gang of them right now that just be like, yo,

Geach, I'm doing this shit. Like, you're my favorite battler. Are you the influence or why my style is like this? And that's shit crazy. Fire. One thing I forgot to say that I wanted to say at the beginning was shout out to your stepfather, Big Rob. Oh, yeah, man. Shout out Big Rob.

One of the people who came up to me and told me that I needed to interview you, but he had a very certain, like, older gentlemen swagger to him, but I appreciate it. Yeah, man, shout out a big ride, man. For sure. Do you feel like your performance the other day actually retired daylight? Is that how that works?

Like, he saw your performance, and then he was like, all, I'm done. I don't know what's up with day, man. Shout out daylight, but, you know, I seen he said, I think him and Lux was supposed to battle. So the backstory behind me at Lux battle was, initially it was Daylight first Lux. Okay.

For whatever reason, daylight ain't to take the battle. You know what I said. I was supposed to battle, I think, T-Rex or something. You know what I'm saying? Right. And Nitty was supposed to battle somebody. It was just, the car was a totally different card. You know what I'm saying?

So when they took, when, when they took, when, Gitchie, you went luck, make sense, blah, blah, blah. I don't go, fuck how much, let's get it. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? So we straighten that out. So I think maybe since I cleaned them up, daylight, probably like, that battle ain't as big as it probably would have been.

Even though I still think it'd be dope, you know what I'm saying? To see, they both like lyrics is my style and days way different. But as a battler, sometime when an opponent felt like a, you know what I mean, you took a loss. It's like, I don't even want that battle right now. Like, you know what I'm saying? You got to go catch a win and then come back. So, yeah, I might have retired day like that. It might be my fault.

I mean, daylight retiring is overall a bad thing for, like, West Coast battle rap as a community, wouldn't you say? Because I feel like he's such a big personality. Yeah. He has a big-ass fan base that goes outside of battle rap. I feel like him retiring is kind of a shame. Like, do you want to sink your teeth? than him? Yeah, I mean, y'all never want to see him retired, definitely. But battle, I don't even think you really retire from battle rap, though. Like, you, nobody, ret-all, every battle rapper

don't said they retired. They, like, probably not said it 10 times. Every rapper says it, but then every battle rapper really says it, because it's more intense. Yeah, after every battle, it's like, man, I'm done with this. I'm retiring. Like, retiring doing what, man, baking cookies, man, get back in the ring, you feel me? You know what I'm saying? So, Dea Be back. I think he's saying some shit just to try to, you know, because he can't really, I don't know, I can't take him serious because he'd be trolling a lot anyway, you know what I'm saying? So, you feel me? He wasn't them dudes who would just say anything, you know what I mean?

So, but like, if he is retired, you know, that is a tough hit for the West as far as because, like you say, he went to our bigger stars. Do you think that the people want to see you and him battle? Yeah. I told him that too, though. I said, man, I think people want to probably see us battle, you know what I'm saying? A lot of motherfuckers don't be wanting to battle me, though. I ain't saying him, but it's like, you know, it's like with me.

I know, it's like, people would be like, fuck, I don't know what this nigga I don't say to it, you know what I'm saying? So you niggas be one to prepare and take time and all that. Like, you know what I'm saying? So that's why I take, you know, a lot of these battles, I just take whoever they got because, you know, it'd be hard for them to get people to sign that and that shit to battle me. Right.

It must be strange preparing for a daylight battle because you don't know what condition he's going to show up in. I mean, he's just done so many strange things that could throw you for a loop. We was booked to battle in April 2020, but COVID hit on everything. I didn't know that. We was booked the battle on King of the Dot. He was supposed to do three battles or something, battle on RBE, you are only in King of the Dodd. I was his King of the Dot battle.

And then COVID hit, and then they didn't do that event. And then shit, that would happen. The consensus seems to be that you've at least, like, caused a lot of battle rappers to now, like, openly talk about their street affiliations more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think that it's just that they feel more comfortable saying it? or do you feel like people are actually, like, joining gangs because of you? Or how do you feel like this works?

I don't know. I don't know. I mean, if you was battling for years and they didn't know you banged that, that's like, to me, like, I don't know what, what you would, like, you know what I'm saying? Because most bangers is, like, open with their shit, you know what I'm saying? It's not supposed to be an option. Yeah. It's supposed to be like everybody just kind of knows.

You can already know, like, you ain't got a guess like, do this nigga bang or not. Like, you feel me? Like, they don't make sense. So I think what it is is they seem to lane open up. like damn man like gang banging it's like maybe maybe they looked at it like maybe that's why I send it where I sent it to like maybe they only

fucking with him because he gang banging so let me oh y'all didn't forgot I was a crib too y'all forgot I was a blood too so it kind of got like that but I just think the fans they know they it's still gonna be you gotta be authentic with it it's gonna be seen you know what I'm saying because you can buy his million bandanas and put them on your head and all that shit but that

that's not gonna make it authentic and then at the same time I don't even get up there and promote like no gang shit like I'm just I'm just a gang bang of that battle rap you know what I'm saying like to the battle community but I don't be up there the whole time on no banging shit you know what I'm saying like it's just natural the way I'm gonna come across my aggression the way I talk my lingo like it's normal there's not no made up act you know what I'm saying it's how we my lingo is gonna come off like that you know what I'm saying so it's not forced so those dudes who started coming on

later and doing it I think it started looking forced and so that's why it's like ah Ditchie got them doing that because it's like y'all wasn't already doing this you know what I'm saying they heard you rapping about, you know what I mean, punches and shit the whole time. Now you're throwing up your hood every other round. Like you wasn't doing that. I came in the game. You can go to my earliest battles.

I'm already doing this. I'm having rags on. I'm doing this shit. You know what I'm saying? Right. Definitely. Man. Okay.

So I also, that's pretty crazy. Like, just that it could have that big of an effect. But at the same time, the thing that I was just thinking about is how rap music in general is kind of like on that too. Where it's like there's way more discussion of that. I feel like the average rap listener. gets different gangs

way more right now than they did like five years ago for sure. But like gang banging as a culture done just transcended from where it started at and it's just worldwide like you got people in Switzerland

that's banging, you know what I'm saying? People in China. You know what I mean? Like it's like it's like it's like it spread like the plague, you know what I'm saying? Like you feel like that shit everywhere

so you can't really you know what I mean you can't really speak on it as far as in a negative light because it just it just went where it went you know what I'm saying? There's people that's watching

that shit on TV and they found something about it that they liked and they drew themselves to it, you know what I'm saying? Like, but this is where it's real that. So a lot of times that's the misconception where people think that people from out here like shit on other states or cities and things of that nature, but it's not that.

It's just that this is the epicenter. This is where it began. You know what I mean? This is the heart of it. And the shit that people out here deal with with is different than where you might go through because you could be another battle rapper from another state somewhere

and you could wear those rags and probably walk up and down the street all day and you know what I mean and the motherfucker's looking at you like a rap story like you put that blue band down on your head and walk around constantly somebody gonna pull up on you you know what I'm saying like that's not no cool thing to do like unless you bought what you got to be prepared for what's going to happen your whole day going to change put a blue rag on your head right now walk up and down my hood right now you know what I'm saying your whole day going to change you might get shot you might go to jail you might kill somebody yeah might get your ass with

might to whip somebody at like that's it within 10 minutes you know what I'm saying walk up and down like this for 10 minutes, but they could probably walk up and down Hollywood and, you know what I'm saying, and do it, but like in the hood, you can't do that. You might be in another state that really can do that, though. Where it's like, oh, nigga, they just reping, they just banging. Like, they don't understand that repercussions. So that's why I think the fans, when it came to a meet, they know, like, if y'all wasn't doing that because when y'all, when y'all came out here and y'all battled out here, they didn't, y'all wasn't doing that. You know what I'm saying? So if you wasn't banging like that when you was coming out here years ago, when it was

like that, it looked like, it looked funny. It looked like it wasn't real. Definitely. Yeah. Does this stuff ever turn into real shit? Have you ever had that happen? You said that you got in that one situation. How often does this shit actually turn into shit? Because really, like, a lot of times you have basically, like, gang members saying things to each other. They in every other context would cause somebody to fight, shoot, et cetera.

It's kind of amazing that it doesn't seem like it turns into that very often. Yeah, it don't really. I ain't even going to put no. extras on it, it really don't for the most part. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's one thing I will say about the culture. Like, it really don't. You know what I mean?

It's to be times where it might, they might talk crazy online to each other, but a lot of them people, they see each other and nothing happen. You know what I'm saying? Like, sometimes it might go, somebody might catch a fight or somewhere, but, like, you know what I mean? That's probably the most you will see. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you feel me? Like, it haven't been no uproar or crazy violence. Like, oh, man, these battle rappers is beefing, and they're shooting at each other when they see each other. Or, you know what I'm saying? these dudes are shutting down events and not having went to that like for the most part like it's kind of like understood you know what's the most played out shit that people say to you in battles man i get the most shit i get on i always hear the i'm always here the gangster angle you know

i'm saying like oh man you you you you're banging but you promoting it and da da da da da da for this i get try to shame it uh i don't know if you familiar if not but i'm pretty sure like my fan base is familiar. I'm connected with a guy that's named avocado who directs battles and he had a situation where they thought he did something racist and I'm like man, he ain't no racist so I hear that's why Luck said

that, oh, you're talking for avocado, so I hear that all the time like, oh, Gigi, he's looking out for white people like he's a racist lover or some shit, you feel me like? You feel me? So I get that. You know what I mean? Like a gang of like stupid dumbass angles. All that shit be getting played out for real, for real. Every kind of crypt joke, every kind of like

nutty pun. Every nutty punch. Anybody ever say anything about the Nutty Professor? I heard Nutty Professor. That would be pretty good, yeah. I heard Nutty Bar, any, like, all that shit, man. I thought of one when I was working out this morning. Oh, yeah? Yeah.

Well? If I was battling you, I would say something about, like, when this chopper hit you, it's going to be a no-nut November. Oh, because that's what... You would literally have to battle me in November, though, but at the work. You said any other money that ain't going to hit. But, you could say some other shit that rhymes with, like, December and stuff. Yeah, you could.

You could. I thought of this literally while. And, you know, earlier too, too. That was a boy on the low down. My girl was looking at my toothbrush, and I got the electronic toothbrush where you can replace. She goes, she goes, why do you never change your head up? I go, right back at you. My girl actually has fire, pause, but like, I felt like, yo, I'm tuned into the battle rap shit.

Like, my brain is starting to work in punch lines a little more. It's time to get you on the stand. And that was a boy to hit her with right there. She ain't, like, slap you with nothing crazy, you know? It took her a second, then she giggle. Yeah, on the real. Now, that was a cold punch right there. Like, why ain't switched yours up?

Battle my girl, yeah. I'm me, yeah, I'm telling you, you tripping, man. So the no-not-November thing, you're not feeling that? I know, I'm not going to say, I ain't going to say, I ain't feeling it, you know what I'm saying? Like, but I know you could go, you know what I'm saying? You can take it to another level, man. But that still was kind of dope, though. And then it occurs me when I was thinking about that, that that must be the weird thing about being a battle rapper is you have a little seed of an idea.

is you have like a little seed of an idea. Yeah. And then you just start elaborating on it and making the bars before it work with it and the bars afterwards. That's exactly what it is. And do you ever just like work yourself up to the point where you're like, this is way too much? Way too much.

I got to simplify that shit. That's me. That's me. But that's what I do. I think my whole thing is I try to make it to where it's digestible for everybody. You know what I'm saying? So if you like lyrics, I'm going to make it to where it's lyrical enough to where you like, oh, that still was a dope boy.

But I wanted to still be the person that just want to catch something just regular as just. I'm just watching this shit and still catch it. I think that's the balance of this shit to get to them certain levels. You don't want to just be all over the head with everything to where you just in there, like what the fuck is these people talking about? Like, it sounds good, but I don't understand it. Like you got a text the person next to you. Like, what do you mean?

What do you mean? You know what I'm saying? Like it's easy to know what I'm saying? Rhyme to him with the switch. You know what I'm saying? That nigga told he a snitch. You know what I'm saying? Real quick, real fast.

it's over with, you know what I'm saying? So I just come with, like I try to make it, everything makes sense to my opponent. I try not to have no filler or, like, filler is usually where it's just bars that don't mean nothing. Like, you know what I'm saying? So if I'm battling you, your name Adam, I'm gonna come as many Adam flips as I can come with

and I'm gonna talk about what I know about you. You know what I'm saying? Like, okay, you talk about your girl head week, I'm gonna get on that. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? Throw the bar right back at you. You feel me?

That's what I'm on. You feel me? So I think, yeah, like, for me, I try to simplify it as much as possible, man, because like you say, it's a whole lot of different eyes on it now. You know, everybody don't be wanting to just be thinking too hard, man. My fuckers want to catch that shit. Yeah, that's kind of like in the long run,

probably something that is tempting for battle rappers, but it's maybe not great for it, is for the best bars to always be something so intricate that points back to some random-ass drama that, you know, then it becomes, like, less approachable to the fans. Because if you don't know about it, you got to be like, Who are they talking about? Who are these people, these specific people that I've never heard of?

This might be big in battle rap, or this might be big on this level, but nobody else know what they're talking about. And now that I'm subscribed to a couple of battle rap channels where I see them posting videos, like, constantly about the tiniest little, like, encounters or dizzes within the culture. They do that. And I'm just like, wow, like, they're really like just trying to, like, it's like a paparazzi type thing to a certain extent because they want to, which I respect it because

there's an audience for it. but at the same time, it's like, wow, this is kind of bizarre. Yeah, no, it is like the battle rap media is like that. It's like because they strictly be on battle rap. So I think it's like once you get into the culture, like you say now you're paying attention you see. Like it's a whole like lane for people that just like, you know what I mean, keep up with everything that's going on, all the good, the bad, the uglier battle rap.

You know what I'm saying? So when did you realize that you wanted to like kind of create your own media company platform alongside what you're doing in battle rap? Tell me a little bit about that decision. Man, you know what I mean? shout out my partner over there in the cut kent you know what i'm saying he just always just tell me like man you got to do so much a brand like you bigger than you think then i mean that you probably know you know what i'm saying like he looking at it like yeah you know i mean as as a brother like i see

you making your money from battles and you doing this you doing that but at the same time you kind of that's it you know what i'm saying like you feel me at the end of the time long run like you ain't gonna battle wrap forever i know you ain't just fin to be up there to you lucks and new age you know I'm saying still trying to do that shit you know what I'm saying like salute luck so I have to take one more I'm not like, you know, you ain't gonna be trying to do this shit all day, you know what I'm saying? Like, use your brand while it's hot to do something else, you know what I'm saying? So he was the first one to be like, man, let's try to get a podcast. Let's try to turn it to a media network and just, you know, funnel everything, man, like funnel all your businesses to this shit right here.

You know what I'm saying? I want to help you with that. You know what I'm saying? Like he already got businesses and things of that nature, that mindset. He didn't know that I'm with, whatever he with, though, like, because he was with me on another level in the trenches. You know what I'm saying? like before he got to where he had now, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, man, if I could trust you to go on a mission with me before,

I can definitely trust you with some business, you did what I'm saying? So, you know what I mean? So that's where that mind was at. One of my brothers telling me something like, bro, you need to do this. Like, fuck all this other shit, man. Put this together. Let's do this. So we started the business, man.

We started doing the podcast. We had a shop where people could come up and get the clothing and things of that nature. Is the shop not around anymore? No, not right now. You know what I'm saying? Pandemic shut it down? Yeah. That's basically we're having of mine too.

we shut the shop down as soon as the pandemic started going. The pandemic fucked shit up, right? So he had that where people could pull up physical. So it was just helping enhance the brand, though. You know what I'm saying? All of that made it bigger to where, you know what I'm saying? Like they could physically be able to pull up and see me, you know what I'm saying? Seeing me more outside of battles with the podcast and, you know what I mean?

Bringing people like Gina on and bringing other people on to like, you know, cross brand and things of that nature. So like that was all really, that was already, bro, like, you know what I mean? Putting that bug in my ear to help, you know what I mean, change. Yeah, because like, you know, you're building up all these. other platforms. Like when you go and you rap on caffeine or whatever, it's like, you know, it's good money. You're building a position for yourself, really, but at the same time, you don't own it. I own it. So I think it's dope that you're also like at the same time

trying to create that because I feel like the battle rap shit blowing up in L.A. seems like almost inevitable so that it could get a lot bigger. And then you could be right there at the forefront to be the one sort of guiding those conversations. And that's what we're trying to do, man. I'm I'm throwing the event June, not June, November to 28th. I got a league, the riot. I'm throwing an event 28th out here in LA. You know what I'm saying?

November to 28th, I'm going to battle on that card again. You know what I'm saying? They're probably announcing it right now while we're talking, but I'm going to battle again, you know what I'm saying? So like you say, every 30 days, you know what I'm back at it, you know what I'm saying? Does it ever worrisome that you're going to run out of opponents? No.

Because they create battle robbers every day. So it's somebody like getting made in the labs. So we're doing, dude, put him out there. You know what I'm saying? but, yeah, so I think that's my goal. I want to see it get that big, though, you know what I'm saying? Like, I want to see it get that big. I'm actually battling this guy.

He's a Christian battle rapper by the name of A. Ward, you know, so, and he battled me before. A lot of people felt like I lost that battle, so it's going to be like a big rematch to the fans. The battle rap is going to be big. So I think that's big to bring battles like that to L.A. And for me to also battle and do it, too, you know what I'm saying, for they can see me more, you know what I'm saying? So I'm trying to bring a big car with a lot of names out on that. You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah, that's going to be soon, man. And hopefully this can be one of many events that can kind of like shift the culture to kind of being more so like seen in LA a lot. Because caffeine is based in LA too. But, you know, a lot of people sometimes don't go to all the URL events because they don't hear about them. So like, I want if I can push to where you know that this is what's going on through my channel, my platform, then that's what I'm going to try to do. I saw Freeway and Cassidy that they came out and announced that they're battling. That seems pretty cool for somebody of my generation where I would remember them battle on the radio back in the day. but that also makes me think

there's probably room for more rappers to get in that shit to get in there like do you see that happening does there is do you see that happening for anybody in L.A. in particular

because I feel like that would be the craziest shit to blow you up is if you battled somebody who has like a real big like mainstream name I'm sure you thought about that yeah yeah hell yeah

I mean I think that would take it to the next level out here if somebody who's like considered a rapper or MC out here that's probably having done battling but they got their own platform and buzz decided to want to get in the ring. But I think the thing with battling is some people are afraid to kind of just step out there and do it.

You know what I'm saying? I think, you know, and there's no knock to any rappers, you know what I'm saying? But it's just a different thing, you know what I'm saying? So some people can't do it, you know what I mean? Just like some battle rappers can't make music, you know what I'm saying? But I think now in this day and age that's changing, a lot of the battlers that's at this level now, they make dope music too, you know what I'm saying? They're doing songs with top artists and all kind of shit, you know what I'm saying?

but I think if those artists wanted to get in the battle rap, I mean, I'll do it. Like, if I would have, like, if I could, I would. If I was in their shoes and I could get a bag battling too, like, to me it's like, it's a no-brainer. Like, what? They're giving out hundreds of thousands just like some of these niggas ain't even getting that for shows. You know what I'm saying? We're doing that one show, boom, 50, 60, you know what I'm saying? Clean up.

You know what I mean? You probably can get more than that because your buzz is bigger. You come back and bring, you know what I'm saying? You feel me? So, like, I mean, to me it's just, you got to, like, kind of just want the money. like you gotta kind of be on your business you know what I'm saying I'm not saying I ain't getting that because I don't know what niggas getting but I'm just saying like it's another one like you know what I'm saying like you feel me you can add that to you know what I mean

like it's free money it's out there you're rapping this man that's easy for sure definitely how comfortable do you feel at this point financially or whatnot like clearly your financial situation has changed a lot how you're feeling now I'm more financially comfortable than I've been in my life you know what I'm saying I'm definitely you know what I'm saying I definitely uh can can say that, you know what I mean, where I'm not, and like I say, with the help of my team and them keeping me focused on not just blowing money, like, just doing crazy shit, you know, sometimes I probably do some stupid shit. I used to have a gambling problem back in the day. Oh, really? Where did you play? Everywhere. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I hated Vegas

for like years because I used to go out there. But why did you play roulette? I'm playing blackjack and shooting dice. I'm losing. Backerrat, I play that too, though. Baccarat, how far, you said. What's the most you ever blew at the casino? Damn. One sitting, like, the whole reason I went to jail that time, when I said before I went to, uh, before I battle a half, man, I went to the casino, man, and lost like 40,000. I told my boy, man, we got to go get that back.

Yeah, we went to try to get it back. I thought me losing $10,000 in a day was pretty bad, but $40,000 is pretty serious, yeah. Everything. On some fucking, how the fuck you lose that? I'm saying, like, and so that's when I knew it was some problem, because after I did, I still went back after that.

After we got out of jail, I still tried to gamble again. I know that, too. The gambling addiction is such a weird one because so many people don't even understand that it exists. But once you have it and you have that desire and you could be sitting there with your kid or with your girl or working or doing something that. And still, there's a little thing in the back of your head that is just like, I want to just fucking wager.

I want to just gamble real quick. I just want to throw all this shit on the table. It's just like, let's get it. And once you got it, just a little bit of, you know, you're always just going to have it in the back of your head. Because it's times when you win your 10s and your 15s and your thousands and all that where you're like, oh, okay, it's good. But then you lose more than you win in the long run.

So now I don't even, I don't really gamble. I don't do none of that shit no more, you know what I'm saying? For real, for real. It's a motherfucker. Yeah. As far as your music, did you kind of like let it take a backseat at a certain point? Or are you still focused on making your own music at this point? Yeah, yeah, I'm doing music right now.

You know what I'm saying? I'm working on an album called Alumagadi. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? It's being like executive produced by a J. Nari. You know what I'm saying? At this point in the time, you know what I'm saying?

And we've been working. Like I got dope music. We've been just, I've been quietly doing. I think everything is about time and too, you know? Like continuously taking the battles and then, you know, the buzz growing. And you know what I'm saying? So that's going to help push the music as well. So I just been staying focused on that.

But yeah, I'm definitely, I've been making music throughout my battle career, though, dropping videos. I think one of the videos that did the most for me was the tribute I did to Nipsey, the condoluses. you know what I'm saying when he passed away rest and peace to him what was your relationship

with him and what he mean to you? I didn't really have a personal relationship to him, I mean, with him or not but I respected what he did like business-wise, you know, his character the way he, you know what I mean, showed himself to the public I always respected it and watched it,

you know what I'm saying, and fucked with it. I didn't been to his shop, you know what I mean? Purchased and supported a means of time I had a close relationship with his security of Jay Rock. I knew him when I was young

and since we was kids, we've been close and tight, so like it was opportunities to probably meet and be like that but never having. So I just really had the relationship with just watching him and seeing his grind, his hustle, and respected that. You know what I'm saying?

So that was really my whole purpose, even doing the record, just paying homage to like a legend line from on my side. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's from the West, he's a cribby, a legend. Like, no, let's just pay some homage. You know what I'm saying, to a nigga that meant something to this coach, you know what I'm saying? For real, for real.

Yeah, 100%. Do you feel like it's, is being so on your shit battle-wise? Do you feel like that, in a lot of ways, makes it so it's harder for you to pop off as a, as a regular rapper. Have you ever thought about, like, maybe having to leave one behind to focus on the other,

or is that even a thought? I mean, I think it's hard to hear. I think you would have to eventually, you can't, like, you would have to eventually, like, take a break, probably from battling for, like, at least to miss some events, like some months or something,

to kind of, like, to really give your music that full, push that it needs, all the, you know what I mean, the promotion behind and everything that you need, definitely because battle rapping takes so much time. Like I said, you'd be having to go zero dark 30 inches, you know what I'm saying?

So you probably ain't even, thinking about doing radio interviews, talk about your music, or doing, you know what I mean, freestyle and shit like that to let people know the album coming. So, yeah, you definitely going to have to, when you want to push it, like, all the way,

I think you definitely got to let something, like, take a backseat for a second. You know what I mean? Most definitely, I believe that hell yeah. Definitely. Okay, so I guess the question is, you know, okay, just Drake is an example. We look at him, we think he's been on top of this shit

for 10 fucking years. He's been killing it. It's, like, hard for, it's hard to imagine. like exactly what makes him still want to go so hard yeah because he's already kind of like accomplished everything you accomplished I'm sure you got a little bit of that going on because you've kind of won all these awards and you just you know crushed all these battles you have like non-stop opportunities what's like the reason for your your purpose you know what's the reason

that is floating around in the back of your head that keeps you grinding like just for me it's It's the love of the sport for me that keep me going because now I've grown to love it. You know what I'm saying? Like I do, I have grown to love just the competition factor a bit about it. You know what I'm saying? Like I say, I'm a student of the game. So that's some time where I get caught up in where it'd be like, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm like a ball player that just still get that itch to go out there and hoops.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, I hear it all the time. Like, man, say no to that battle. You know what I'm saying? Fuck that real quick. Then you focus on this. And I get hit up and he'd be like, nah, man. Don't let me smoke this dude.

You know what I'm saying? shit ain't nothing. So it'd be the love of that sometime, that competition factor that just keep me going with it, you know what I'm saying? You feel me? Definitely, you know what I mean? Then, you know, like I say earlier, the financial stability of it, too, you know what I'm saying? It's like, it's coming as, it'd be becoming so frequent sometimes where it's like, I don't know, probably already signed the contract for a month down the line sometimes for something, you feel me, different times. So sometimes it'd be obligations too. That'd be already needing to be fulfilled too, you know what I mean? So, but right now, like I'm free, like I say,

besides my event that I'm putting on, I really got nothing that's going on. I'm probably going to, like, just focus on the album, focus on the music, really try to push this music and, like, you know, get through the door with that. Hell yeah. Definitely. Is there anyone that you see yourself wanting to battle,

like, down the road? Is there anybody that kind of stands out to you as, like, the really good one that hasn't happened yet? The one I get the most from, like, the fans, is like hit man holler. Like, everybody kind of want to see us battle. I say besides, it's either hit men holl and murder mook

is like the two that I hear all the time. A fan wrote me a DM that seemed like it had some pretty good questions, and that was one of them is will he battle, hollow, Hulu, and Daylight. We're covered daylight. That's the ones I get all the time. Like, man, you got to battle hitman Hala, got to battle murder Mook. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, for obvious reasons,

Mook being like a legend in this shit the way Lux was, and I think hitman Holla just being like one of the dudes who came from battle rap that kind of surpassed it and, you know, onto TV and different things. So they kind of probably felt like that would be like the biggest. he probably would be considered more than the one who took battle rap and went to the most farthest mainstream wise you know what I'm definitely ready to see you versus

Mook that would be fucking crazy yeah yeah I'll smoke a good time a lot of personality up there on see yeah yeah you know what I'm saying that's my guy Mook is wild as a motherfucker so that's gonna be one of the ones he talked like a motherfucker too

so that face off probably be crazy definitely someone said who's the most difficult opponent he's ever faced the most difficult I ain't even going to A lot like, damn, that's a tough one

because I don't battle down to everybody, man. So a lot of those are difficult. Nitty for sure. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Not even just because we close, but just like his writing process and everything.

Like, you know you fin to hear some shit that ain't nobody else ever said to you. You know what I'm saying? So it's tough to prepare for Nitty because you know he fin to probably say some shit that everybody from him like, damn, I ain't thinking niggas going to say that to him.

So I'll say Nitty, the Arsenal one. You know what I'm saying? I think that was like one of the tough battles as far as like just our disrespect, just knowing coming in. Like, I'm going to let this nigga say some crazy shit because this, you know what? I know he went that, like, that's his way his style of rapping, you know what I'm saying? So I say for sure, like off the top of my head, runny orson always, like, some of my tough

opponents. Definitely. Is there any battler that he would turn down? Turn down. I mean, at the moment, I probably, it'll be a lot of, like, I probably just can't think of their name, but everybody just be a lot of dudes, I'd be like, nah, I just saying, yeah. Well, anybody like high up. Obviously, you would turn down some scripts.

Nah, high up, if they're up the level, no, I probably wouldn't turn them down. You know what I'm saying? Like, if it makes sense and everything or the business makes sense, then I take the battle. The only thing that would get me to turn it down would be, like, timing, like, if it would be, like, conflicted with something else I had gone. Definitely. Can you see yourself doing this for 10 more years? Nah. Really?

Nah, not 10 more years. 10 more would be a little rough? Yeah, 10 is a lot. Something, that's just sound like a lot, maybe two. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, two more. you know, we do something different with it,

you know what I'm saying, come back. Like, you know what I mean? Ten years down the line or something like me, man, I'm still got it. You've been doing it for a few years. It would start to feel kind of redundant at a certain point, you think? Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

You know what I mean? Especially, you think, some of these cats have been doing it that long, though, so I think even like Lux and them, I think they've been around for probably 20. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I can understand, like, the way that they probably ran out of dudes to battle,

you know what I'm saying? And I'm already at that point because I didn't battle the top names. So for me, like, I even looking down, I can't even see 10 years down the line as far as in battle rap. Hell nah. Yeah, no.

I feel it. Yeah, man. Very, very impressed. There's still a bunch of battles that I still have to go back and watch. Yeah, you got to go back and catch a gang of them, man. You got to catch the music, too.

You got to catch a gang a little shit, man. I'm glad you caught the interviews doing things in that nature. That way you can kind of see the growth too, though. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to the street gangs and all those interviews and all that, most definitely. but yeah I got some cold battles out there that's wild though like just like I remember seeing

street gangs back on the day and the the older that content gets the more incredible it seems yeah it's really just like snapshots of people because a lot of people who are in those videos they go on to do other things with their lives and you get to see this like snapshot of their life when they're just really in the trenches just I mean I should like the older I get the more I believe in content yeah a lot of times you could just get something early on and then it just takes on a whole new life down the road. And I saw that even during your battle with Arsenal where he's kind of like implying that you were like snitching

by saying like, oh, so-and-so killed 10 people right here, whatever, which was pretty funny. But it was funny that the whole audience knew exactly what videos he's talking about. The whole battle rap community is so in tune that, of course, they saw those videos. They know everything, yeah. Like battle rap is like they watch everything you ever did. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like your school picture, they're going to like,

I mean, that school picture you took with the bowtile. Oh, yeah. that picture. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, definitely. Like I agree with that too, though, as far as that content be living forever. Like, you know what I'm saying? And you get to, you know what I mean, look back at certain shit. So I still appreciate all those old interviews too. Yeah. Because it helped me, that even helped me as far as when I came in the battle right where I kind of already had a buzz of like, like, where people win my first battles, they'd be like, oh, I seen him on, uh, on this. Because that shit had like over a million

something views on the one I did. You know what I'm saying? I think I did like two or three of them, too. So that shit was wild. Definitely, man. Well, yeah, I'm a huge fan at this point. And, you know, best of luck with everything. I'm coming on your podcast, right? Yeah, man, that's what we need. We need no jumper on, no studio on, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? That's when it's going to be lits. You know what I'm saying? It's going to be crazy. Our shit kind of like this, we just be, we talk about all the type of crazy shit too. Like, man, we just ask some random wild shit, you know what I'm saying? Get your take on shit. You know what I mean? We just chop it up. So yeah, man, we definitely want to set that up. wayside man how you come over there talk crazy when's your next battle my next battle is november the 28th on the ride it's gonna be in la you know i'm saying we're gonna have a myself

a war fons versus a real name brandon i can run out all the names that sarone versus oops elida merr versus drake dennis chef trance versus fate next versus uh riggs and we got diada the hittie mrs snake eyes you know what i'm saying right yeah we also adding the battle a true foe versus royalty so a lot of these dudes is california dudes that i got that's about battling against cats from other regions, you know what I'm saying? Like Fonz is from Cleveland, real name is from Pasadena, it's true folk from Chicago, royalty from L.A., L.R.A., from Conn, from Dre, Dennis, from Jersey. So that's the premise of this car, kind of for the most part,

is putting the light on a lot of the dudes. That's, like you said earlier. That's from out here. That's from them type of environments and giving them looks against dudes who got a little more status in the game of battle rapping, you know what I mean, putting them to the test, seeing what they can do, you know what I'm saying? Definitely. I love it, yeah. Maybe we could do your podcast after that so we could,

sort of summarize what went on. I got to make sure I make sure y'all in the building, man, get y'all pass to come pull up. I got up, yeah, for sure. And most definitely, I got you on that. Let's do it. Okay. And my other, my last question I probably should have asked in the beginning was,

why did you go from Beilok to Gichigadi? Where did that come from? You were like, I need a more rap name? Because Beilok is literally like my gang name at the time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I mean, like, I'm like trying to separate from that. Like I don't want to, you know what I'm saying? Like as far as, you know, at that time, I, even on that interview, I think

I told him afterwards, like, hey, bro, you put up, I don't know why I said, I don't know what do I make, when I take that down, like, put Geechie or something up there. I could kind of almost tell that you went and made him change the title because I'm like, why would it say that all the way back then? Yeah, you feel like, yeah, I'd say Geach, man, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, that was just being young and kind of, you know what I'm saying, you know, like not, not thinking at the time when I did the interview, of course, you know, we didn't, like, I don't know the battleer said, but if you watched the interview,

we ain't do no showing no guns, exposing, talking about no murders, no killings, at all. You know what I'm saying? I was thinking, I'm like, did I miss the part where he said that someone so killed some people here? Like, I was like, I always never been no type of dude. Like, I'm not one of them type of niggins at all. You ain't fit to get me to talk about no murders, killings, nothing. Like, I don't know nothing about that you did.

So that was just more so me doing that interview. But as battle, I'm like, I got to just have my own identity as far as a rap name, making some person. I don't want motherfuckers to be, you know, just when they tap in on that and be like, you know, it's making you want to stay away from it. Kind of like, I'm saying, Beela, all right, this is a, that sounds like, you know, like it's some gangsta. Like, you know, I mean, I don't really want to, you know, businesses probably not want to touch it, you know what I'm saying?

So, and I came, you know, I rocked with the, the Gitchie. The Gitchie name even came from just, I know a lot of people attach it to, you know, down south to South Carolina, the Gitchie people, the Gullet. That's why he even used that bar. But, you know, it's a whole culture, you know what I'm saying? But that's not where I got it from, man. Yeah, probably going to laugh when I tell you, but my boy, free him. He was in that interview, my nigga Bezels. That was in the interview with me with the Dred.

We used to listen to a song by Waile, like, got Gucci on them. You know what I'm saying? So to us, we was like, man, when you get to fly, like you fresh, like so he and so, like, I forgot whatever I had on one day. Like, man, you Gucci on the day. Like, man, fuck all that, like,

because I was going by like, loco Goddy or something else it was Gotti though, but it still had the loco or something. He's like, man, that's still too, like good. And like, man, you gotta just be on some fly shit, man. You got to get me, I'm like, man, look how dope. Like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm Gucci, like, you know,

I'm gonna say like you feel me, Geech, you got it. Like, that's how that came about. So shout out bezels, man, free bezels, man. D.C. got some weird. That's saying that we don't understand. Yeah, man. Like, Young Glees used to always be calling everybody Mo. On the real.

What a real? What a Mo? Yeah, yeah. That took me a while to figure that out. And I still don't understand it at all. I don't been to them other states and they all got their own lingo. That shit be crazy.

All motherfuckers talk so different and all this. You know what I'm saying? Like studioing, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's some common shit. No studioing? Like studio in. Like, if you studioing, that means you're faking. Like you studio gangster.

Like a studio gangster. You know, like BG.G. Knockout. Those gangsters, studio gangster. When they said that. Like, so that's, R. Hood took that on. Because, you know, they from my neighborhood.

So, Arhood took that. That link go off a long time ago. Like, we don't do no studio. I was thinking that when I first thought, I'm like, who is Studio N? Yeah. Why is he saying no to them? Yeah. We don't do none of that.

Don't fake. Don't front around us, man. Keep it real. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah. That's what that is, man. Well, very, very happy to get you in here, and I'm sure a lot of people probably really appreciated this.

Yeah. Ghi Ghi Ghii. Man, I'm glad you had me, man. Much love, dog. And I really look forward to doing more shit together in the future for the show. L.A. Atlanta, on the real before I get up out of here, I'm so glad she said that, man.

Atlanta, next weekend, not next weekend, but November the 11th, we got to respect to MCs, too, that I'm doing with Gene of Views. You did what I'm saying? Yeah, we're doing that. It's going to be, it's basically, I did it before, but we bringing it to life and doing it even bigger with her, where I'm putting on an event for battle rappers to kind of, you know, just show their skill.

You know what I'm saying? Some local dudes. So we got one of these battles from Atlanta. We got somebody from L.A. that's going to battle them, and we're going to put on at the Revolt Global Music Summit and all that going to be also going on. So it's a big event going on in Atlanta

on November 11th, that area for. Let's go. Be big. Y'all make sure y'all tune in and all that, man. She's going to be live. Follow him. Follow Gina views on Instagram and Twitter. If you want to stay up to date on that.

that, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, follow us up, man, Gichi Giaci Gadi on Instagram. Gici underscore Goddy on Instagram. Let's go. And also, I think I used an unnecessary E in your first name in the tweet. Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you said that, man. Yeah, take the E out, man. Don't do that, man. I got to go to people acknowledge that. God damn it. And then follow us on YouTube, man, official no studio and network. That way you can keep up with everything. And then when, you know, when he come on the show, that's how y'all going to see him again. We go live every Tuesday and Thursday on caffeine at from 7 to 9. So pop in with us. You already know what time it is man

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