No Jumper - The Gina Views Interview: Growing up in the 100s, Mad LAtely, Misogyny & More

Episode Date: June 6, 2022

Adam decided to crack the Gina case open! She shares about her upbringing, family members involved in cr*mes and street activities, focusing on her goals to stay out the way, her top 5 LA rappers, wor...king with Sway, giving Adam his flowers, and more! ----- 00:00 Intro 1:41 Gina went to middle school and high school with Drakeo 3:25 Gina has crackheads, dealers, and more within her family 6:20 Got into music seriously after listening "P*ssy, Money, Weed" by Lil Wayne 10:03 Gina lost her sister to DV she was k*lled by her boyfriend 15:04 Adam's feedback on the flirtatious Boogie and Gina interview 16:48 Gina's LA top 5: Boogie, Reason, Rideaux, RJ, Blxst 31:41 Gina met AD in Carson, they hit it off, knew the same people 39:05 Gina started Hoefessions after a trash job interview, and inspired by "Surviving R Kelly" 43:05 Gina clears up who brought her to No Jumper first, it was AD 44:30 Gina was always inspired by Adam even before meeting him 47:37 AD was trying to get Gina for a show and then Mad Lately happened, Gina thought she could do both, she was sadly mistaken 50:46 Adam imitates Gina's laugh 51:13 Gina gives feedback on why Mad Lately didn't work out 58:04 Gina on misogyny and ra**sm in the industry 1:00:02 Rappers using ciphers to date Gina? 1:02:19 Gina is now working with Sway, doing ciphers on a bigger scale 1:07:31 Gina wants to be remembered as the Angie Martinez of her generation 1:08:31 Gina acknowledges Adam showing love and embraces his team when he doesn't have to ----- Shout to our Partners at Gamer Supps! ORDER YOUR FREE SAMPLE TODAY with our Promo Code NoJumper https://youtu.be/UUwcj1YC-NE Gamer Supps offers esports athletes, gamers, and podcasters the most effective and healthy energy choice to help them perform at the highest potential especially during their most crucial moments. Try it today 100% Free with our Promo Code NoJumper https://gamersupps.gg/----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumperJOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today, long awaited, Gena views. On the show, we're going to learn all about her. OMG. For the record, before we started, you saw yourself in the camera thing. They put up the OBS on the screen so that you could see what you look like. And you said, oh, my God, I look like one of them girls you'd be interviewing. I look like a rapper.
Starting point is 00:00:27 A rapper's baby mama, maybe. A rapper's BM. Does not sound too bad. Some people would say that that would be not you taking full account for your capabilities. I don't want to see you just as a rapper's baby mama. I want to see Gina Vuees out here, tightened up media. Don't sell yourself short. And then somebody's baby mama.
Starting point is 00:00:49 And then also somebody's baby mama. Or wife. That's the long-term plan. Yeah. Or wife. In about 10 years maybe, I might. I'm ready. Okay, where are you from exactly?
Starting point is 00:01:02 Let's go cross streets. This is so weird that I'm not sitting over there. You picking up what I'm putting now? I'm picking it up. I'm very nervous right now. Pick it up, pick it up. Why? Because like even though we already have like our own relationship,
Starting point is 00:01:16 this is like weird sitting on this side, with you on that side with the lights and like, I mean, I've sat at this table. Right. Hundreds of hundreds of times, right? Hundreds. Madelaide made it to hundreds? It was maybe 40s of times.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Maybe tens of times. Tens of, dozens of times. Definitely dozens. Maybe. Maybe low dozens. But it's just, I don't know, it's just like weird. But I'm from L.A. I went to Washington High School that's in the hundreds hood.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Okay. So that's how you've been known Drakeo for a long time? Yes. Really? We went to middle school and high school together. Really? Mm-hmm. And what was he like in middle school?
Starting point is 00:01:56 Draco was a jerker. Ah, yes. Yeah, Draco was a jerker, jerking, transition to a flocker. Ah. The foreign whip crasher. Yep. And, yeah, that was Draco.
Starting point is 00:02:09 He was always cool, quiet, you know, minus business. But this isn't about Drago. This is about you. Yeah. What were you like? Rest and peace, Draco. Rest and peace, Drago. What were you like in, like, elementary school?
Starting point is 00:02:18 What was it, like, growing up in this environment? I don't really remember elementary, middle school, high school. I've, like, kind of been, like, popular my whole life. Okay. Social butterfly? Yeah. Gossip?
Starting point is 00:02:33 No. No. No. I was a yearbook editor in high school. Oh. I was in senior class council, leadership, newspaper. I cheered before. I didn't cheer in high school.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I cheer Papa Warner for Snoop Dog's League. Yeah, that was cheating in high school. So you had your head screwed on straight. Yes. A lot of these girls don't. Why? Why didn't you have a choice? Because my dad was strict.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Your dad was very strict. What was your mom like? I didn't grow up with my mom Really? Yeah, so I did not grow up with my mom The majority of my life My dad raised me My big sister
Starting point is 00:03:06 My grandmother My mom has not been in my life My entire life What was she been up to? She's doing what she do? She's whiling? Really? Uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Yeah. Do you try to stay out of it? I Um So I have a very, very dysfunctional family Okay. I have everything in my family from crackheads, crack dealers, rapists, a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:39 It's a lot. So my family, I would say, adds on to 90% of the stress in my life. Really? So the way that I keep my head on straight and just stay focused on what I'm doing is just disconnect from everybody. Uh-huh. Did you always, what kind of upbringing did you have of your dad? He pushed you to, he thought you could be something? Or at least wanted you to fall in line and stay out of trouble.
Starting point is 00:04:08 My daddy didn't even know what I did up until last month. Okay. As far as like what I'm doing in LA. His idea for Gina's success was to go to school, go to college, get a nursing degree, become an RN, or do something like dental or medical because all the women. on his side of the family or other nurses or doctors, therapists, things like that. Okay. So when I would tell him like, no, like, Daddy, 106 and Park is my favorite show.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I want to host 106 and Park. I want to be on a BET Awards. I want to do this and that with music. It was like, ah, Gina, no, go and do something that's going to stick. Uh-huh. When did that start to creep in your head? Like, oh, maybe I could do something in entertainment. I just felt like my whole life, that's what I was supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It didn't feel like anything else. Now, when I first enrolled in college, I did go for the nursing program just because that's what the fuck my daddy said to do. But like just as I was there, it just didn't, it just didn't fucking make sense. What is the, what's the class? Is it anatomy? Anatomy. Is that a class?
Starting point is 00:05:13 Anatomy is a class, right? Yeah, they point in a body and they say this is this organ. I have to learn about every single bone. Okay. That sounds like anatomy. Yeah. I had to learn about every single bone. I had to
Starting point is 00:05:26 there was like courses where they said I was going to be like drawing blood I'm super scared to just seeing like a lot of blood at once and it was just shit
Starting point is 00:05:33 to where it's like this not for me like I would run into old teachers and things like that from high school and oh what are you doing with yourself
Starting point is 00:05:39 right now oh I'm going to school for nursing and it would be like no that's not for you they thought that you were meant to do something creative
Starting point is 00:05:47 yes really I've been told my whole life I have a radio voice oh okay I don't know if I ever told you that but maybe I'm going to start
Starting point is 00:05:55 saying that. No, that's an insult. You have a face for radio? No, anybody ever tell you that? No. Do not say thank you. That's a fucking insult. I just thought you insult to me low key, but I'm like, oh, no, he's getting somewhere with this. I was picking up what you was putting down. Oh, okay, you picked it up. But wait, when you were like in junior high and stuff, are you really in tune with the local music scene and what's going on in hip-hop and stuff? I didn't even really get into music like that until I heard well I've always been into music as far as like on some like just west coast my dad listening to Pug
Starting point is 00:06:31 West High Connection and stuff like that but where I got like heavily into lyrics which influenced me to do ciphers and stuff like that was when I heard Pussy Money Week by Lil Wayne basically one of my friends was like breaking down the bars to me and it just fucking blew my mind as somebody's minds can their pen could be so crazy that they can write something actually mean something else and then that could kind of and something else, and it can be flipped six, seven ways the way little Wayne does it.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And after that, I forget what song Lil Wayne and Fabulous had, but that made me get into Fabulous. I already known for like the love song, so into you to me and songs with Lil'amo and shit like that. So these are the early days of you not fucking with L.A. rappers. You got into it because of rappers from everywhere besides L.A. I wasn't there. You motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:07:22 So you just started showing love to the West Coast because they just happened to be around But you really love Fabulous No, no, no Well, yeah, that's my favorite rapper for sure Really? Yeah, Fabulous is my favorite rapper Shout out the fact
Starting point is 00:07:32 He just posted me He posted me breaking down his bars But it's not about fabulous Maybe he'll post you breaking down Him breaking down your bars That would be fire, huh? Can you get him up here for an interview? Can Laura?
Starting point is 00:07:44 Laura? Laura? I'm sure Laura's son of those days He doesn't do many interviews Yeah F-A-B-O L-A Okay. I like that you know
Starting point is 00:07:53 that you know picking out. I live in New York when he was coming out. Okay. I was tapped in. Okay. You fuck with FAPA. I'm going to fap. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Yeah, so the way that I even began to, well, I've always fucked with West Coast artists because all of people that I grew up with and stuff were doing music. So the easiest thing and the most convenient thing to shed light on the West Coast was to do a cipher and get all these people that I fuck with and grew up with and who rap and stuff. stuff. But that was the first thing you thought to do was like, let's do a cipher, not like
Starting point is 00:08:26 maybe I could help make a song or maybe you were like, no, I'm going to get everybody together and we're going to do a cipher. That was my way of putting everybody on one track to do a song that I fucked with and I thought were like really, really like talented. Like these niggas could go crazy and I feel like the world needs to hear them. So how'd you even go about starting the process of doing that? Well, so Rucci was one of the first people who was in a cipher. for Leswood, Panda, Dean Riscoe, Tommy Sketch, Spitfire, Steviana. I did one interview with Steveniana, and I dropped it on my birthday,
Starting point is 00:09:05 and she freest out on the interview, and from there, a lot of, like, up-and-coming artists was like, how do I get on here? How do I get on here? Just because it wasn't nothing else like that going on in LA for up-and-coming artists at the time. And what year were we talking? 2014. Okay. And shit, from there it just became like Gina's the cipher girl.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And yeah. That's dope. Yeah, thank you. What problems did you run into, though, trying to put that together, especially being a woman in this masculine, dominated scene? The problems that I've just ran into just doing those ciphers over, of course of, what, four or five years during that time was a lot of people were flaking on me. especially when you have to get all these people together right yes yeah one person
Starting point is 00:09:51 flakes it kind of fucks the whole thing up and it's like dang this is somebody who i'm banking on like my life depends on this verse like that's how i used to feel and yeah people will flake people aflake i was also grieving my sister during the time too so she passed in 2014 the day that i shot the first episode of my show what happened her boyfriend beat her to death wow yeah he goes up for parole next year so i'm kind of waiting for him to But yeah. Holy shit, that must have been hard to take. Yeah, it was hard.
Starting point is 00:10:23 It was hard. That's your only sister? No, she's my oldest sister. Okay. How many sisters you got? 10 years apart, wow. Three sisters. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Yeah, three sisters. Now, was there ever a chance of Gina getting in trouble? Or were you always, like, kind of on the straight and arrow, like always wanting to do something good with your life? Um, no. never I wasn't a bad kid. Okay. I mean, I had fights and stuff like any other kid, but like I wasn't a bad kid.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I listened to my parents. Whatever the hell my daddy tell me to do. I did it. If I couldn't go out, it was, I didn't sneak out. Like, I just, I fucking listen for the most part. But, um, I mean, I snuck around and done some things before. I'm not an angel. I mean, yeah, that's kind of my impression to you is that if you are getting into any
Starting point is 00:11:14 fuck shit, you do an immaculate job of not letting me. me or AD or anybody really seem to know. You're kind of a mystery. Like I threw your name in the group chat earlier. I'm like, anybody know anything I should ask Gina about people she dated back in the day? Any bullshit she ever been involved in? Nobody really had anything. I try to move like I've already fucked up or there's already an issue and I'm cleaning it up already.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And I don't want to like, I'm so terrified of something happening like me doing some dumb shit and it lives on my record for the rest of my life. You know? Like, so even like with the guys that I date, I'm like super cautious with like even telling friends about them or anything just because I just don't want to be attached to nothing. Nothing bad and nobody bad. Really? Yeah. See, because a lot of
Starting point is 00:12:01 people kind of look at it like it's not such a bad thing if I get into some beef or I get in a skirmish or I get into some weird altercation or whatever because hey, if everybody has to talk about me at some moment, you know, it might be kind of negative in the meantime, but ultimately
Starting point is 00:12:17 I'll be able to make something out of that energy. No, I'm super scared of different type of spotlights. Like, I love positive spotlights, and I'm scared to be the person who is dealing with a lot of, like, because right now, like, since Matt Laley or whatever,
Starting point is 00:12:33 like now I'm getting used to it, but I get helotrode. And it's so much pressure and just reading like a bunch of freaking people contacting you and saying, I'm sure you go through it all the time, you know? But like, I just don't, I want to stay away from all of that type of shit as much as possible.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Right. Yeah. But you were always pretty conscious of that. Like, have you always known that in order to be respected as a woman in the rap world that you were going to have to move very deliberately and not get known for certain shit? The thing about it, like, with the whole, with that is that I have never been the girl that the guys are, like, kind of on and looking at. Like, I kind of just got cute.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Like, I've been a little brother my whole life. But I feel the energy from a lot of the rappers who come in here where they're either flirting with you or I could tell that you had a little flirtation before. Like, there definitely is some energy towards Gina from some of the guys you come in here. And I see you like, you're fucking with them. You're like messing with them a little bit, but you're not fully like allowing them to just straight Mac to you. Well, the thing too is like when I'm here, it's a thin line between me being Gina views and me being. Regina. It's like when I'm sitting right there I'm the social media, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Nobody has ever called you Regina in this office. You don't do that. It's always June. Please don't. I had never even thought about putting an RE on your name before. It's a little weird, right? But like, I don't. Okay, Regina. I try not to like, I just want to be professional, you know, when I can, but then sometimes I forget like, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Like, I'm not only an employee, I'm a personality to them. So I need to kind of smile a little bit. Like when, was it Troy after that came here? And he was like, hi? Oh shit, hi He wanted to you to smile at him Yeah, I was just sitting there with a straight face Hey, it was it
Starting point is 00:14:20 And I realized I'm like, oh my fucking Bobby Shmurter came in too I walked out the bathroom Trying to walk past him To dip behind the camera Why you're trying to dip behind him You ain't trying to figure out What's going on with Shmurda?
Starting point is 00:14:30 The thing is like I'm at work You know, like I don't know But it's still, it comes off It's very fucking rude Like for me to just walk past a rapper And just not even like Acknowledge
Starting point is 00:14:40 Especially when I'm somebody I might want to interview them one day you know but yeah so in your mind because we still haven't dropped it so we still don't 100% know what the reaction is going to be to the very very interesting podcast that happened the other day with you and boogie yes in your mind is that a little bit of a you know a little bit of a risk like even just the fact that because to me the fact that you guys were sitting there and acknowledging that you had flirted or like kind of talked in this way was like oh shit Like, I have not seen this side of Gina.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I haven't seen what Gina in a relationship or something sort of kind of like, even close to a relationship is like. I was like, you could see you in the interview that I'm just sitting there with my jaw kind of drop. Like, oh, damn. Where's this going? There's some actual tension here. This is crazy. No, Bogie does that type of stuff all the time. So other people or just you?
Starting point is 00:15:32 No, with me. Like, it's a joke to both of us. Well, it's a joke to me. I think it's a joke to him too. He'll post me on his story and say, oh, happy birthday. I love you or congratulations, love you. or he'll tweet like, oh, I love Gina or, you know, but I think it's just super friendly or whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:48 At the end of that, he looked like my daddy. But don't you feel like you did, you showed me the photo, he does look like your dad. But don't you feel like he's kind of like gauging you? Like he's testing you. He's checking that temperature for sure. Yeah, because if the temperature from you, oh man, I used to be the king of that.
Starting point is 00:16:03 If I fucking felt like a girl might like me, I would just like, you know, try to figure out the things I could say to where to gauge if she actually was fucking. with me. Like, is it actually worth me taking her out the dinner? Yeah, no. He, he, he, biggie is like, uh, um, what is it called when people like, like, like the fire? What, what's that term? An arsonist.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Not that one. He's an arsonist. LAPD. Investigate him. He's like, okay, I really can't think of the term, but it's the way they're like, oh, you like poking a bear or like, whatever. Like, he's just really trying to see if it's clear or not. I don't fucking know.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Boogie is just, that's my, that's my friend. That's also one of my, he's in my top five. Really? Yeah. So you meant that? You weren't just saying that? No, no, no. Buggy's really in like my top five.
Starting point is 00:16:49 What's your top five out of L.A. look like? Buggy, Reason, Bino, R.J. And Blass. So you don't put the big names in this top five? No. Kendrick don't make your top five. Wow. Oh, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Cut that part out, Lord. No. Leave it in. This is important information. So you're just so tapped in with the underground, though, that you don't even want to give the king his flowers? No, I mean, Kendrick is dope, but me as a representation of, hold on, I got to post with a thumbnail. He's going to wait until your talk until your mouth is like eight inches wild. And that's a thumbnail.
Starting point is 00:17:34 No, Kendrick is definitely the king of Los Angeles. But my top five, I want to be realistic. and say people who I listen to, people who I'm really getting in the car and playing. I listen to Kendrick when he drop, love what the fuck he puts out. But people that I'm like constantly listening to are the people that I'm named. Okay. Fair enough. Roddy don't make the top five?
Starting point is 00:17:56 I think L.A. has a weird relationship with him. He's really popular, but then people don't talk about him like he's from L.A. that much, usually. My top five and L.A. is Mount Rushmore. It's two different things. This is fair. You like that? Yeah. It sounds like our media train.
Starting point is 00:18:12 No, but because like, if you were to ask me the top five rappers that I've listened to right now, it would be totally different than who are the best rappers. Like, who are the most elite rappers, you know? And sometimes there's overlap. Brody is definitely going down in L.A. as a legend. Right. But, I mean, I listen to Draco way, way more than I ever listened to Kendrick. Yeah? Well, early on Kendrick might have.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I listened a lot of Kendrick early on. but like you know the last couple years last album I was a way more Jericho than Kendrick but if I were to make a top five of L.A.'s top rappers while Drago was still alive I would still have to put Kendrick above him just because of
Starting point is 00:18:53 you know the influence and the size of what he was doing. But on a personal list I would have put Draco on top. Right. When you do the top five of like LA so many things you have to consider but then when your personal top five it's easier yeah less considerations
Starting point is 00:19:09 So, okay, you're getting into the rap world. How much of like street shit plays into this? And is that something that you were like around a lot early on? Yeah. So like I said, I grew up in a hundreds. Right. I've been in some shit. Really?
Starting point is 00:19:34 I've been shot at. At what age? What age? I mean. So you just stay getting shot at? Not like me just literally getting shot at like somebody, you know, but if I'm like in the midst of whatever the fuck is going on or just happen to be like a bystander or I'm with the people who are, you know, it's happening to.
Starting point is 00:19:57 And like, it's happening before. No, I'm not an op. No. Somebody's up. I'm well-connected and well respect. You're around ops. Somebody, everybody got a knock. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:08 But you get what I'm saying? Was that something that you had to consciously be like, I don't want anything to do with that early on in your life? Like, did you ever have to make that clear to anybody? What's so crazy is, and this is so fucked up, and I think that this literally comes with the whole just grown up in L.A. And just being literally, like, traumatized. You grow up thinking that shit is normal.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Really? As far as, like, it was a shootout out of my graduation in high school. Really? The first day of me checking into high school in ninth grade, it was a freaking rumble in every single like corner of the of the yard right and the school was on lockdown somebody was stabbed there like it was like so much stuff that like just growing up it's like oh this is fucking normal this is regular and it really felt normal like you you just said okay that shit that just happens and i'm going to try to navigate around it and avoid it i'm always like
Starting point is 00:21:02 I'm very, I avoid confrontation as much as possible if I can. So if I sense like some shit it's like about to go on then I can like easily
Starting point is 00:21:12 just kind of like slide my way up out of there. But for the most part I don't I've been around some things and it's not even just like in school. Like I said, I have a very,
Starting point is 00:21:23 very dysfunctional family. My family was on the news because my auntie's house got rated and I'm laying in my cousin bed we all watching TV watching mad lately like everybody everybody tuned in
Starting point is 00:21:38 under the covers watching mad TV and the police ran in well first before the police ran in the person they were chasing ran in with his hands cuffed and hid in the closet he just went like that and then shit
Starting point is 00:21:52 the police ran in right afterwards and it was like and you're how old? I was six years old and you're just keeping your mouth shut like I was so long Also, what the fuck he was doing? Right. That it was like, what's going on right now?
Starting point is 00:22:07 Right. I'm six years old. You know, it's like, what's going on? The police run in right afterwards. They grab them, they leave, whatever. We go outside. They found him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:13 He was just right there. It was the worst height in the house. If the cops are going to run in the house, they're probably going to check the closet. They've done this before. It was literally like they just came in and, oh, there you go. Right. It ran straight to her. But, yeah, like, it's hell of it.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I remember when my cousin got shot. I was probably like seven years old then and we was just running down the street. He's a blood that was in the blood neighborhood. We're walking down the street just regular just kids, you know, just outside playing and shit. And then we like see a car, hit the corner right in front of us and just start shooting like right. I fell right there. I still had a scrape on my leg to this day.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Holy shit. So even getting in high school and middle school and seeing stuff, it was kind of like I was already conditioned that like this shit happens. You feel like you're traumatized because it's. some of the shit you've seen? I don't think I'm traumatized. I think I'm numb to it. And I think that that's a problem.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Yeah. That when people die, like, if I see some shit on the timeline, I'll probably be hurt by how it happened more than somebody actually, like, passing away. The brutality of it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that would be, was like, what the fuck versus it actually, the person dying.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I don't realize how fucking. up it is until I see somebody else close to me and one of their friends dies and I realize how much longer it affects them and how much more mental energy they put into it and then I think about people I've been really close with who died in recent memory and how very little of my thought process like was used on it like I mourn them and I'm just I close the door really fast on it because shit just keeps happening and we're just so in tune with the news and people are getting into situations all the time. And then that makes me feel like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Like, am I just, like, too numb to this at this point? Yeah, yeah. I knew when, like I said, my sister passed in 2014. When she died, like, I knew that. She passed the day that we were doing the first episode of my show. Okay. I woke up the next morning, got the information. And I remember within that time, the editor was like still texting me,
Starting point is 00:24:30 hey, what's going on? I need this, I need that, you know, whatever, A, B, and C, because life still goes on. And when I realize that life still goes on when somebody passes, like, I'm breaking up with my boyfriend, why I plan on a funeral. Wow. Like, my family is getting into it. It's just, like, just hell of stuff is going on around me that it's like, life does not stop when someone fucking dies.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Like, and I probably didn't even, I'm still mourning her to this day. But it's like, you just, when you realize, that when you fucking die life is still going to happen. It's like live your fucking life and do whatever it is that make you happy and that you want to do and because life is going to still fuck the world is still going to fucking spin
Starting point is 00:25:14 around. Like, you know? Definitely. Yeah. So did you early on have to like start acknowledging the politics when you're doing these ciphers and shit? Because obviously there's a lot of rappers you can't really be around each other. So do you end up doing like the blood cipher, the Hoover cipher, the Cipher, the Crips Cipher,
Starting point is 00:25:32 Yeah, I've always been like mindful of who I have around, especially too because a lot of people knew what school I went to. So they knew, oh, Gina's the, the Crip girl. She'd be with the Crips. When people see me out, oh, I see your boy Bino and it's like, what the fuck do that I got to do with me? Right. But so you were with the Crips from early on? I mean, I went to school with her.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Okay. But you never wanted to be partnered up with nobody? No, I went in Game Bang. Look at me. But you come in wearing a fucking Yankees hat half the time. I like the Yankees. You do. Why?
Starting point is 00:26:05 It's cool baseball team. You're a baseball fan? Yeah. You know. Interesting. The Yankee hat looked like the LA hat to me. No. It's kind of like the same thing.
Starting point is 00:26:19 It looked like twins. LA is the closest thing to a neutral hat. It's like the Spider-Man's looking at each other to me. You're picking up what I put it down? No. No. No, not at all. I'm not picking it up.
Starting point is 00:26:31 The NYU hat is very controversial out here but nobody ever tripped on you for your hat uh no you watched enough tv videos you're like no i know what's going on i've been in enough of lids he is not the he's not the official spokesperson for this he's not the spokesperson but flaco's always asking us like about the hats and stuff and i'm like why are you need to wear a hat i actually faco should just stick to like a plain dad hat i think that would be really you know because that allows you to be put in a certain box if you want to be a peaceful, neutral guy out here. You rock your little dad hat, maybe get yourself some vans.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I'm not even... So as soon as you start wearing Jordans. I'm not even sure, though, at our age, if the hats are even like a thing, because it's like, what hoods are you going into where... Yeah, that's what I told him? You know, you're disrespecting somebody. He asked me when he first came here, like, what hats do I need to worry about? I'm like, in Burbank?
Starting point is 00:27:22 None. And also, Flaco, everybody here, including me, looks at you and does not think you seem like a LA gangbanger. He got to stay off Xavier TV. You can, if you're not in nobodyhood, like, I don't, you know, you know, right. Yeah, for sure. Okay. So, yeah, take us into, you start doing these ciphers, but you were doing interviews even
Starting point is 00:27:47 back then, right? Because I think you might have, like, the oldest Draco interview, right? Yes, I do. Really? I think there's Cyprus might, his interview might be either right before. our minds are right after minds, but we definitely interviewed Draco within like the same time span. Right. But that interview was from 2015, I think.
Starting point is 00:28:08 So yeah, I was doing interviews in 2014. The audio is super trash, quality is horrible. They are archived right now. You would not find them on YouTube except for Draco's. But yeah, I was doing interviews and pretty much I was just putting out the content that I wanted to see. That's it. I felt like there weren't any platforms at that time. you have to either be viral enough or at the cusp and right about to get signed or just got signed for like a lot of like the radio stations or you know stuff to interview these people and people wasn't really respecting the west coast at that at that point um so like this is a weird like dark period yes throughout the early 2010s after after yg we didn't really like see like that many big waves coming out of la i mean you could look like a lot of odd
Starting point is 00:28:57 future. Yeah. Not everybody's going to put them in the same box. Yeah. But yeah, there's definitely like not that much media going on at the time, which is hard to even remember that because now it feels like holy fuck. There's a million like random dudes in LA that have iPhones or D.SLR. Trying to figure out some shit to make content about, never mind, some drama to talk
Starting point is 00:29:20 about. Yeah. At that time, too, 106 and Park was ending. Well, they didn't end yet. but they were, they went into like this weird transition where they didn't have like a permanent host and they were like doing,
Starting point is 00:29:34 people were getting their interviews and like doing their trials on the show. Like it was live. Like you can tell these people where they're getting tested out like right here and there. And I remember they had the auditions and I wanted to apply.
Starting point is 00:29:48 And I was like, well, what the fuck I'm all going to give them? Like I don't have nothing to give them to say, oh, you know, I do interviews. I wasn't doing interviews yet. So that was a reason why to us out. I need to create my own thing so I can have something to show people.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I can't just tell people that I'm interested in doing interviews or, you know, and I don't have nothing. I don't have my resume as blank. Right. But you, like, realize that there was some values to being a content creator early on? For me, then it wasn't even about being a content creator. It was about having something, having a blueprint to show a network
Starting point is 00:30:19 so that I can get a job as a host. Right. I didn't even realize in the moments of doing it that I'm a content creator, that I have a camera. camera. I have a show. I'm putting this stuff out. To me, it was just like, I need something to give these people so that they can fuck with me. Right. Versus me creating something for myself to, you know, creating a show or a platform. And you never wanted to be a rapper.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Who you talked to? Nobody told me that. I just, looking at you. I'm realizing you had all this creativity. You had all this energy. You put it into documenting rappers, but it would make sense if you were like, oh, maybe I could be the rapper. I thought about doing music. Right. I might have a song somewhere. A song or a video? It's just a song.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Oh, okay. Just a song. But it wasn't for you? It's me rapping on the... You were singing a rapist? I'm in the studio rapper. On some gangster shit or... Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:31:15 I don't want to talk about it. Oh, Lord. Coming soon to an episode of the No Jumper show. We might have to crack that open and research it. You will never find it. Break down every bar. If you've got the Gina archives, feel free to get in touch with us. Laura, cut this part up.
Starting point is 00:31:36 When did you first meet AD? What are your early memories of him? My early memories of AD were, was it Juice video shoot? You went to his video shoot? I went to the, yeah, juice was like, boom it. And this is the video shoot that got shot up. No, no, this one didn't get shot up. It was like booming.
Starting point is 00:31:57 It was like the biggest thing in the city. Like AD was just going freaking crazy. And no, I did not meet him by his video shoot. I met him at a fashion trend in Carson. And it was around the time of my birthday. And at some point, all of my friends had reached out to, like, all the rappers in the city and asked him to make me a happy birthday video. And I was driving into the fashion trend.
Starting point is 00:32:25 with one of my friends who already knew him. And he stopped us. He said, hi to me. And I'm like, he knows me. Like, what the fuck? Like, but he was actually spoiling the surprise. He probably doesn't even know us. I don't think we ever talked about it.
Starting point is 00:32:39 He was spoiling the surprise because when we pulled off, I was like, how do he know me? And then she was like, girl, everybody, you know, no, everybody didn't know me at that point. That's such an AD type thing to do. That doesn't surprise me at all. He spoiled the surprise. So later on I have found out that, because I had asked him like, like, what was the whole? thing with all these videos and stuff because something happens where the videos didn't come out. They didn't show it at the party, but I ended up seeing it later on.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And I'm like, how the hell did y'all get this? Like what? You know, and she was like, that's why me and AD was looking at each other like that because he was about to say something and I was trying to like change the subject, whatever, you know. I didn't, I was so didn't know what the fuck was going on while it was happening that I just didn't even get into it, you know, but later on she told me like. But you never interviewed ADE early on?
Starting point is 00:33:22 I have an AD interview. Oh. I have an AD interview. I don't think I ever put it out, though. Oh. Yeah, I have an AD interview. AD is actually on the commercial of, I mean, not the commercial, like my little sizzle real. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 00:33:34 Mm-hmm. He wasn't worthy of coming out on your platform at that time? AD flaked on me on two ciphers. Yes. Wow. Mm-hmm. You blame it on the alcohol? A-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-ha.
Starting point is 00:33:51 He can't do that no more. A-a-a-a-ac-ac-al. As soon as that sentence came out of my mouth, I was like, wasn't that a song? I don't know what it was. He didn't show up, but there's no hard feelings. He made up for it. Right. Is that kind of blow your mind to see him being like a full-blown content creator
Starting point is 00:34:09 doing a weekly podcast, Twitch stream and all this shit now? No, because AD's always been like a star to me. Okay. Like he's just always just been like, had like star power, just the way he talks, the way he projects himself. And I'm surprised that he's doing it like on a platform. But to me it was like every time I just saw like AD is just a, remember how i said when we have seen drake he had a halo
Starting point is 00:34:31 Drake had a halo when we was at the battle he did have a glow about him that it was just like whoa yeah like AD just looks like a star to me like that's it the teeth probably got to do it with the fake beard he's weird and not fake well I don't know I don't know just for men but uh yeah I don't know it's kind of crazy because like when I look at AD now he fully has the fucking content creator mind
Starting point is 00:35:04 disease that like he can't he knows now he's like yeah I'm gonna get on Twitch and I'm gonna talk about this shit and it's like it would be very hard for him to not think about the world like that now that he knows that he can get a dope as check from his YouTube channel or whatever just from talking about shit that's basically like
Starting point is 00:35:20 his life or like shit that's going on in the culture you know once you kind of see that it can a lot of that can have to do it to like the influence app I'm 22. Like, you didn't tell me a lot. Like, I know, like, when we had did the first interview for the social media, I'm like, oh, y'all know to you social media.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I've done it before or whatever, but I have not done it to this capacity. So even how you had told us, like, when there's a story, pick the most interesting thing or the biggest part of it and create a headline from it. Or how you'll be like, this won't do good, but this will do good. And it's like, I kind of take that with me because at first I was just coming in thinking, like, oh, everything that a rapper does, we're going to post it. And it's like it's not that. What did you say that day?
Starting point is 00:36:00 You said the story is the story bigger than a person. You know what I'm talking about? Big story, small person or big person's small story? Yes. So if Playboy Cardi, if we have a video of him fucking banging his ankle against the wall and it gets a sprained ankle, it's Playboy Cardi, so it's news. Right, right. If fucking Laura does that, I'm sorry Laura, but it's not news.
Starting point is 00:36:23 It's okay. But then if Laura shoots five times. people, she might not be the most famous person, but she did something that everybody would be interested in because it's so crazy that it's like, you know, you always kind of have to be doing the arithmetic to figure out what's the interesting thing about this. Yes. And I didn't think like that before November. So I think that's really, I think you, we got to give you a family. You took me out of corporate. That made me feel very good when we hired you and you posted about it and you said that. And I was like, damn, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:36:55 You need your flowers. You took me out of corporate. What were you doing? You working at a call center or scamming people? I was not scamming people. You saw insurance or something? I was selling insurance as well. I was an account executive for a telecommunications company. So I was kind of like the fed, fed employee cell phone devices. So like if you gave everybody in here no jumper phone, then I would have to report to you or Josh every month and say, well, Riley is on Instagram for 10 hours a day.
Starting point is 00:37:27 That was your job? Yes. Just random people who worked in some office that you didn't even know anything about? I had to tell on them. Wow. And then let them know, all right, you guys are spending this much on your bill. If you cut A, B, and C down, then, you know, your bill would be this much. Or you have all these devices that you purchase for the, what, HR department.
Starting point is 00:37:49 None of their devices have been used in three months. They're probably using their personal phones. We should cancel these lines. We'll save you guys $10,000 a month. Can I do that for you guys? No. Because I assume AD's sitting in the corner watching X videos or something. I would love to, I would love to have those kind of analytics.
Starting point is 00:38:04 That would be great. No. No. If I buy him a phone. Oh, that's a good point. But then he's just going to look at, he's going to watch porn on his other phone. Mm-hmm. It's personal.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Oh, yeah, that's what I was doing. And, like, it paid good. It was cool. It was regular 9 to 5 weekends off. But I always felt like I was, I learned a lot working in corporate, of course. but I just always felt like I'm doing this shit and it's not even in the field that I want to be in. Like, I need a check in the field that I want to be in
Starting point is 00:38:33 so it makes sense. Now I can sit over there next to Laura and running the rappers, even though I'm not talking to them. You ignoring them to sneaky past them, yeah. But yeah, like, you fucking took me out of corporate America and, like, I'm too big for corporate America. I agree. I think you're meant for more.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Thank you, Adam. And I'm not bigger than nobody program, but I'm bigger than that program. Right. I cannot. I just used to stress me to fuck out. You know. Being 6'9 for all these fucking poor office people.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yeah, I was a little snitch. Damn. I was a little snitch, bitch. Okay, but then when does the, okay, when did Hope Fessions come into the picture? Oh, okay. You're like, I want to use, I want to have a platform where I could tell my sleazy little stories. Not my stories, Adam. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Their stories. Did you feel like I want to bring sex positivity to the hood? I got like, this will happen. I went into a meeting with this company who told me that they were going to put me on every red carpet So I showed them what I already do With the rappers and stuff And they were like, oh, this is interesting
Starting point is 00:39:35 But when I look at your Instagram None of your followers give a fuck about these little black people This is what they said These little black rappers They don't give a fuck about them They think you're cute They want you to talk more They want you to engage with them more
Starting point is 00:39:47 When I look down your page That's what people are commenting on And that's what has the highest engagement Nobody gives a fuck about these little L.A. Rappers. and you need to get away from that. Okay. That was what they said.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Guy tried to take me out on a date same night, but whatever, that's me to hear a North East here. I use every single moment in my life as like a learning opportunity. So in that moment, I learned that, oh, I need to probably create some type of content that I'm engaging with people. More about you. Yeah, more about me. So during this same time, this is going to sound so bad, but so fucking what.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Surviving R. Kelly came out. on Lifetime, and the women, of course, you saw they were sitting in front of the camera, telling their stories, telling their truth. And I was like, dang, like, what if I did that? Like, what if I just had somebody pull up on me and just tell their stories or about, like, rappers and shit like that? And I was like, who the fuck is really going to sit in front of a camera and tell what they do or what they know about, you know, sexual encounters?
Starting point is 00:40:47 So I said, what is the way that I can do that to where I'm not incriminating myself, they're not incriminating themselves, and the rappers. business is not out there. So there's a one man on the Steve Harvey morning show. Her name is Cheryl Strawberry. She reads a strawberry letter every single morning.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And I used to listen to that with my granny going to school in the morning when I was in like elementary and I was like, oh, I can fucking do that. So I'm the friend who like my homegirls calling me like, girl, I just did da-da-da-da-da-da. You know, like, I'm the friend that people like vent to.
Starting point is 00:41:19 So I have two friends who had told me some crazy-ass stories that they did and I said, can y'all just write down exactly the shit you told me that you did in Vegas when you did, blah, blah, blah, can you write it down? Can you send it to me? And then I'm going to read it. And then I dropped the first episode and people liked it. Right. But so you never tell your own host stories? I have two of my own stories on there. Okay. It's 70 something episodes. Y'all got to go watch all of them and figure out which is me. You seem like you go out of your way to not put yourself out there
Starting point is 00:41:54 in this super sexualized way, right? Mm-hmm. But then also on hofessions, you're wearing your underwear sitting there. Is that just like a gimmick to get people in? Yes. All right. It's me being comfortable as the home girl at home,
Starting point is 00:42:11 talking to the other home girls at home, and we just all won. So I prefer, like, when girls watch the show, I don't know what dudes have on with they wearing it, but I don't know what dudes is wearing when they watch it. show but I prefer that like when girls wear it like they in their whole-fashioned onesie or like you know in bed with a bonnet on and hair wrapped or you know whatever we all just comfortable for the girls yeah and then like Gina views on whole fashions is a character it's just the whole fessa right you're
Starting point is 00:42:38 picking up what I'm gonna do I'm picking up okay trying to come up with your little you're gonna make merch with that saying on it or something no that's some old niggins shit you go on a podcast you say one thing 15 times and then you make merch that says it right after. I just got to make sure that you like, you know. I'm picking it up. You hear me knocking. Pick it up. Pick it up.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Pick it up. Okay. But at some point in the gene of you's come up, you get introduced to the no jumper world. Explain your introduction to Planet No Jumper. Who brought you in just so that we can clear this up because A.D. always wants to be like, I brought her around first. She was supposed to be on my show. AD did bring me around.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Okay. But I want to say in like maybe 2018 or 2017, there was like a tweet you have put out that you had wanted some personalities at the show. You wanted some like new L.A. people or whatever. So I retweeted and then told people to tag me and a bunch of people tag me and you DM me. Of course you don't remember. You DM me and you said, it's okay. You know better now. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:44 You DM me and he was like, oh, pull up to the office or whatever, whatever. I think y'all was still on at the store at that time. Yeah. And then we talked about me coming like potential dates. And then you was like, wait a minute, we're moving. It was like something like that. See, the problem back then was I always used to like try to find talent. But then we also didn't have like employees that were really like a good system for us like filter.
Starting point is 00:44:12 You know, I would get 500 DMs. And I would like be like, fuck and I was just fucking give it up or forget about it. It was super overwhelming. Now we actually have it down to a science better. So I feel like I'm like more ready to take on more personalities. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:24 But yeah, that happened. I already knew, you know, who you were and what no jumper was. And I remember being super like, damn, like he's doing exactly what I want to do but on a higher level. Because you had, like, I had like local people, but you had the people who were like on the cusp of the world, almost, you know. They were about to, they all. they blew or they were about to blow.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Right. And I just thought that was just so fucking cool that you did. I was like, I just want to get in his world and just learn from, you know. Okay. Fast forward. A couple years. A.D. calls me and says, I want you to come.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And I think y'all had just did like, I don't think he was even on the show yet. I don't know. He was doing the news and we were like trying to figure out who could do his podcast with him or something, I think. He had called me and he said, Adam is looking for personalities. come up there on Friday and do the live stream with us. And then that's when I came or whatever and shit COVID happened, right? Yeah. And I remember having to tell AD while we were doing that live stream because we were like
Starting point is 00:45:25 watching music. Yeah. And the comments, of course, are talking all kinds of shit and there's like misogynistic stuff. And AD is like high, unfortunately, because he used to get like way too high. He would hit the blunt a few times and he would just be done. and he's just reading some of the mean-ass comments towards you. And he's laughing so hard.
Starting point is 00:45:48 And I had to tell him after it was like, AD, you know, it's our first time we should probably like not read all the comments because, you know, we want to take it easy on here. Yeah, yeah. Not that, you know, he just didn't really like know that you didn't have to read every comment. Right, right, right. No, it was cool though, but.
Starting point is 00:46:05 You weren't offended? No. You got thick skin from having to be around all these guys all these years? Yeah. Like, it's the thing too is like, on the, like, these are not, like, yeah, they're real people in reality, but, like, those comments are, like, not from, like, real people. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:20 But I also wasn't reading them. He was reading them. And so it's coming from him, we're laughing. Ha, ha, he. Now, if I probably would have sat there and skim through every single comment, then I might have my feelings heard a little bit or felt, you know, a little weird. But I remember AD, he hit me and was like, send me a reel of what the fuck ever you've done.
Starting point is 00:46:43 And he said, do not send hofessions. Okay. So I remember being like, oh my God, I need to go archive every single post or Adam's going to think
Starting point is 00:46:53 I'm a hole and he's not going to take me serious. Listen, I know real hoes. And then I come and find out, oh, he does porn. Yeah, and I don't fucking care. And yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:47:03 I know the biggest hoes on art. So, I mean, the last thing I would be offended by, I was like, oh, she sits in her. underwear and does the show. Yeah, that's very much. It doesn't even hit the radar of me thinking
Starting point is 00:47:18 like, oh, wow, she's out there. Yeah, no, they were like super scared, like, leave it out, don't include whole fashion. So when I came on like, oh, my God, he can never find out about how fastions? Like, I was so nervous. Right. And so then from your perspective, how did it go from you potentially being on AD's shit to Mad Lately coming out? Okay, so AD had hit me again after the whole debacle with, you know, with them, the two girls. And he was like... Oh, it was after he had the viral episode with Yassian OT? No.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Oh. Oh, okay. So I think you were getting dragged at this time. This was an intense time. People were very upset about thoughts and next door. And then I had tweeted, I tweet, I chimed in on it. And I tweeted, uh, Adam really got these bitches up there like I'm not sitting right here. Oh, Adam gave these bitches to show like I'm not sitting right here.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Wow. I tweeted that. and then you retweeted it or favored it or something, but it got a bunch of retweets after that. So Eddie had called me like, I'm glad you tweeted that. Like you good, you win, whatever. Like, we got a show. So he was like, think of a name.
Starting point is 00:48:24 In the midst of that, he was like going, I don't forget if he was in Mexico or where the hell he was at, but he had went out of town. So we was talking, we was coming up with names and like different concepts and stuff. And he had told me like, I don't want to do the rapper thing. Like, I don't want to do us interviewing rappers. Like, Adam already has that.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Let's come up with some other stuff. Because that's all I was coming up with. like shit that was like, you know, with rappers. And I want to say like two days later maybe, Vic hit me and said, hey, I got a show on no jumper. And I remember me like, how the fuck he gets a show on no jumper? And I'm just the co-host. But he was like, I got a show on no jumper.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Adam said I can get whoever I want. You the first person I thought of, let's do it. So I sent the screenshot to AD. Ad called me like, that's dope because we both want you. So I'm like, cool. Like, you know, I'm going to be an old AD show. and I'm going to be on a big show and that's how it's going to happen. And then me Gabe and Vic went and took pictures.
Starting point is 00:49:18 And when we went to take the pictures and then we came in, Adi had called me and said, why did you do that? And I'm like, what? He said, they think you want to do mad lately and not my show because you did pictures with them. So I was like, I'm just do both. And he said, no, I got yes. So you're saying it's on him.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I like it. No, that's not what I'm saying. As long as it's not on me. If it's not on me It's on A.D. We'll blame him. I don't even think I think that the situation
Starting point is 00:49:46 The way it played out it was meant to be Because I just can't imagine how I would feel If I was in her seat that day That would have been weird I feel like it would have been totally different You wouldn't have been calling them weird right? I wouldn't have been calling them weird Yeah
Starting point is 00:49:58 Probably would have been a different situation But I was just thinking like damn If that's like a best friend's day And I bring my friend and then his friend is there And we're all loaded like Where would that conversation have gone? Would you get loaded like that on camera? No. Well, those, the girls weren't drunk. Oh, just them too. I think just the guys were drunk.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Or if the girls were drinking at all, they were drinking very little in comparison. I'm a very, very, very lightweight. I would have guessed that. Yeah, I'm one shot. I'm one and done. That's it. And I'm a sleep drunk too. So I'll go to sleep. Yeah. You're not going to catch me. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Loud it. You don't think you would be good on camera drunk? No, not at all. I actually, though, that clip that I was making the noises and stuff, I am drunk on that where you're laughing your ass off no no no no it's on my Instagram it's something else but I was making
Starting point is 00:50:45 like mouth noises, dinosaurs, whatever you do have a distinctive laugh when you really laugh it's like ah like the fans know it they hear it in the background sometimes see that was a mini version of it with something is so
Starting point is 00:51:03 funny to me you know they say oh I'm dead I can't breathe I really can't fucking breathe. Sounds like that. But y'all funny. Y'all funny. So from your perspective, how was mad lately?
Starting point is 00:51:17 Were you guys talking in the group chat about like, damn, like, the fans don't seem like they like it or the numbers aren't really coming in that crazy? What was the vibe like? The thing about it is the numbers were good for us in comparison to our YouTube channels. They were bad in comparison to no jumper shows. And you guys are seeing some of the. hate and stuff probably right. Yeah, yeah. No, I used to see it all the time, but I would also get good comments in the middle of that. Like, people would be like, oh, hate the show, love you.
Starting point is 00:51:45 You need to talk to Adam and get moved to another show or, you know, you guys should do this or you should take over the show. And I just always felt like, it's not my show. Like, I'm the co-host. I would never step on anybody's toes or try to make myself be the star. Right. Right. If the cast is trash, the cast is trash. Like, it is. What do you think was the problem with it? I think we didn't have any chemistry amongst each other because we never hung out. So we didn't have any like real friendship or, you know, relationship. And I honestly don't think we, we thought we were all comfortable with each other, but I don't think we were like all comfortable with each other. But overall, I don't think Matt Laley was a show for no jumper.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I think Matt Lely would work for like a complex or, you know, something like that. Yeah. And it was weird because like the other day you were on at the end of the day and I felt like we all, like, read the comments afterwards and we're like, whoa, they love Gina. Like, they fucking really fucked with you in that environment. And that was AD, me, do know, and then you. So, like, in that environment with you as the co-host, they were really fucking with it. It just felt like, yeah, I don't know. On Mad Lately, like, Vic wasn't, it's not like AD.
Starting point is 00:52:54 It's not like this big, crazy leading front man, you know? It felt like you guys all kind of like we're co-hosting on Mad Lately. sometimes. We were all the co-hosts. And there was no real host sometimes. Not the sub is out. I mean, we got the subs in. I think too.
Starting point is 00:53:15 So our, well, what we got from Vic was that Adam wants us to come on here and talk about only LA shit. Just LA stuff. Shad light on LA was going on who's hot, who's not, and be the like put rap political type of show. I think where we probably messed up at is. I just think as a group we probably should have been like, hey, what's something that you, what do you guys really want? What's the vision?
Starting point is 00:53:41 Or, you know, like we should have had some type of like internal conversations instead of us just continuing every week to do the same thing that's getting the same results. Right. Rather not figure out a. I feel like the way we did with AD was way better where we just started with him. And then the co-hosts were kind of like up in the air. We didn't like marry ourselves to anybody like the Yassie thing. Only really lasts like 10 episodes or 15 maybe. And then the fucking T-Rell thing.
Starting point is 00:54:05 thing was just, that was cool though, because that was like, he was just a co-host, like, random person on the podcast, and then AD just decided that he worked good with him. And that was like, I think that's the way I would probably always do it going forward is like start with one person and then just try out people until you fund a good book. Even the way you're bringing flocow in now. And it's like you're putting them on different shows, you're putting them on the news and stuff and getting an audience familiar with them before just giving him a full show on his people like, because I remember the first day, I remember when you guys posted us on Instagram the first day. And people's in the comments said, who the fuck is this? Because when you put three new people, you know, like AD had been on the No Jumper show, so they're starting to fuck with him. Then he has his own show, so he's already got some fans from the other No Jumper thing.
Starting point is 00:54:49 That just kind of made sense. Yeah, like with Flacco, we're definitely kind of just like sneaking them in slowly and engaging how people like them, you know. But I do think we're ready for another show. But it's like, I don't know, you, Flacco, like I feel like we could develop another one now. It's just kind of, when do we want to really go? Like in a sense, you guys are kind of like reintroducing me to the audience. And I think it's like the reintroduction came is like, it's all right, this is a girl posting on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:55:17 So you see what's going on here. You see me interviewing you. You see you at the end of the day. We're kind of trying. Yeah. They hear my laugh. My laugh is now. People tweeting about my laugh in the background.
Starting point is 00:55:27 So I think like the reintroduction is probably why people like, oh, what's up? What's this girl? And then I'm the only black girl. So that that's, you know. If we had said, hey, we want you. to co-host with Crip Mac. Oh my goodness. Would you have been like, okay, I will do it?
Starting point is 00:55:43 Like I said, I'm not bigger than any program. And I use everything as learning opportunity. So if Adam thinks that this is something that could potentially work and we're just testing it out, I'm off. That's not too political for you? You know, I didn't even know what his tattoo said until yesterday. Really? Yes. I feel like with a lot of people, that's the first thing they notice about it.
Starting point is 00:56:02 I don't know what the, my, So I was with my home boys. You're so gang neutral that you just don't even see the anti-hood shit on his head. My homeboys was talking about it yesterday. And they was asked me like, what happened with CMA and T. And I was like, honestly, I don't fucking know. I wasn't there for neither situation. So I honestly don't know what happened, you know.
Starting point is 00:56:26 And then it was like, do T-Rail trip off of the tattoo? And I'm like, oh, that's what the big thing is. It's the fucking tap. Why didn't I know that? Like, Yeah. I thought. It's a pretty big deal.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I thought he was just big like Hoover, you know. Right. The K word. My dad's from Hoover too. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. Don't know why.
Starting point is 00:56:49 So that's not a conflict of interest with you representing the neighborhood card? I don't represent the neighborhood card. I represent the Yankee hats. Okay. I love baseball. You're a gang fan? Yeah. That's I.
Starting point is 00:57:01 I'm just a fan. That'll be so funny. I like how you did that. I see what you see. I'll be like I'll learn it from you too. Yeah. I'm over there taking notes from you all the time. But you think that that is a situation we should avoid.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Because now Cribmac has at least for the time being, doesn't seem like he's coming back on the platform. The T-Rell thing was awkward. It could definitely be tricky when you have two people that can't be around each other working out of the same building. I mean, in that instance, I wouldn't even have to worry about doing the podcast because he could never be here. But I'm not in my, I will never be out at a fucking pool party with CMA and somebody will come do anything to me or him, you know?
Starting point is 00:57:41 But if you co-hosted his podcast, that definitely could happen, right? Like somebody might want to fucking embarrass you to get at him, right? Not at all. I'm well connected and well respected. And I think that I've done enough within the city to where people are like, I just don't see it happen. Right. I can see it happen. Talk about being a black woman in this industry.
Starting point is 00:58:05 How much more difficult do you think it is trying to make it into this game? I'm interested in your perspective on sexism and misogyny, not to mention racism. As of lately, I've been dealing with a lot of, like, men being intimidated by me. Really? Yeah, as far as, like, so you, I expect every relationship to be, like, my relationship with DJ head. or with me and DJ head manager, Salas, or even with you, or AD or T-Rill, where you guys are just welcoming me in, and you guys just want to teach me rather than stepping on what I'm doing
Starting point is 00:58:43 or telling me, talking down on me or, you know, whatever the fuck. And it's not realistic in this industry. People discreded me or feel like my opinion doesn't, like, there are situations that I've been in where, like, my opinion is just not valued or it's just I don't matter in the room because I'm the girl and I'm black It's been times where I'm in a studio
Starting point is 00:59:07 and rather than speaking to every single person in the room like they're doing I will literally get skipped over And I mean I don't give a fuck But you think a lot of times that's because I'll admit sometimes I walk into a studio with like some rappers I know or whatever and there's fucking eight girls sitting over there
Starting point is 00:59:23 and to me it's like oh they're groupies or whatever like I don't really need to go talk to them But it is weird because you like, you might look like one of the groupies. Yes. But you're trying to differentiate yourself. I'm not the eighth girl. So I'll never be in a studio with 10 bitches. Like if I'm in a studio, they're asking me for feedback.
Starting point is 00:59:41 We working or, you know, I'm not even, I'm not the, oh, shut up or, you know, what's up? Or roll up, y'all. Like, you know, like, I'm literally in there on some, like, professional shit. And the majority of the people who have done that before are people who are familiar with me. me and who I am, but for whatever reason, it's like, I'm invisible. Do you run into it where, like, you're trying to work with somebody and you, they just automatically think that this is, like, an opportunity for them to get laid? You're DM and somebody about a cipher and all of a sudden you're just, they're talking about
Starting point is 01:00:14 just, just come over. No. I imagine that happens as a lady. It hasn't happened, but I'm sure it's going to happen. More than anything, people know that, like, they see me standing next to Adam, and it's like, oh shit, this is my time to get in with Adam. I had somebody I had to
Starting point is 01:00:33 completely just cut the relationship so I let them know in the beginning if we're going to be doing business together. I don't do any pay for play. I don't do, I'm not doing nothing that charges people for interviews. I'm not charging people to post them on my page. I'm not charging them to perform or, you know, anything.
Starting point is 01:00:50 And these motherfuckers, there was a performance going on and it was for a big platform and the caption said, this is like eight promoters posted it. The caption said, with a specific amount of money, you can perform for this major network, and it's a really big TV network. You can perform for this TV network, and you can get an interview from Gina Views from at no jumper and they tag no jumper. So I wake up, I see it my entire like notification in school because it's promoters posting
Starting point is 01:01:22 it. So I call to people like, what the fuck are y'all doing? Like I said I don't want, that's playing with my name. Right. It's playing with my name with the artist Because the artists be like Oh, this is all I got to do to pay To get an interview with Gina Is she taking his money? And then I'm like, if fucking No Jumper sees this shit
Starting point is 01:01:38 They're gonna be like, oh, you're using our name To, you know, get interviews and stuff So I had knew at that point That was something that I should have just saw from the beginning Because when we had our initial meeting They were like, oh, do you think no jumper Will be interested in doing da-da-da-da-da-da-da. You think no jumper will interview our eight artists
Starting point is 01:01:53 that we have and, you know, and I told them like Oh, no, I don't handle no. interviews I don't do none of that I got the guy y'all can contact right but it ain't me right so I notice that people like are kind of using I mean or kind of seeing like who I'm standing next to and who I'm fucking with and it's like oh this is my way to Adam or this is my way to a DJ head or right that's what I'm dealing with more than niggins trying to fuck. Hmm interesting so what's this thing I've seen you doing with sway okay so sway head up DJ Head
Starting point is 01:02:25 and asked head for some content creators on the West Coast and Head told him about me and Crystal the DJ. Shalsh, Crystal, the DJ. Me and Crystal have a show called West Coast Confidential where we do like the top 10 videos and stuff like that. Anyway, Sway interviewed us.
Starting point is 01:02:42 And while we were there, he was like, yo, Gina, you know, some spitters out here on the West Coast? I was like, yeah. Gave him a list of people, whatever. So then he was like, oh, yeah, we done a cipher you should pull up. So I was like,
Starting point is 01:02:56 you know I produce ciphers. So he was like, oh, shoot, you do? Like, you know, he didn't really, he didn't know, whatever. So he had me pull up. Like I said, I brought some people with me and then he had me come back again.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And then from that point, he had just kind of told her, like, whatever I can do to help Gina get to where she needs to be kind of like what you, you know. Oh, okay. This is what I talk about all these men who are just like,
Starting point is 01:03:18 Right. We're so good at empowering women. Yeah. Like it's our job. So he told her, like, whatever it is that I can do to help you guys put Gina in a place and where she needs to be or whatever, like, I'll do that. And he had a conversation with Head and my manager. And then I came up with the let's do a cipher series for Gina in that's Geniverse. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:41 And so when you met Sway, what was that like? Okay. So I'm standing there in the studio shaking. And like, I damn there, like, wanted to, like, it was like, kind of the same thing when I had met Fab. Well, I didn't meet him, but I had like... What, you breathe the same air as them? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:01 That's fab error. I used to work at Stable Center, and he was walking through one of the doors at the BET Awards. I saw him. My body literally jumped out of my skin, and then I, like, start hiding, and then he walked up, and then I was like, you're my favorite rapper, and he was like, thank you. And it was weird as fuck. But anyway, back to Sway.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Sway. Sway, it was just, it was just kind of like weird because I've grown. grown up watching him. Like, it's super cliche to say, right? Like, oh, I've been watching you on TV my whole life and now I'm here, but I grew up watching him and then it was like, I'm in the freaking room with him and he's interviewing me and now he wants to work with me.
Starting point is 01:04:37 So, like, I kind of wanted to cry. I was excited. I was, like, kind of overwhelmed. And then he was just showing hella loves. And it was just like, dang, that's freaking crazy. But literally the entire time, I have a straight face on. Nobody can tell. Then one of, like, the producers came with me
Starting point is 01:04:53 And it was like, you look so mean, like smile a little bit. That was how I messed way, too. It's like all of a sudden, I've been watching this guy for all these years. And then I'm just in his studio and he's just interviewing me. And he's exactly the same as he ever seemed on camera. And you're just like, damn, like, I just graduated from being a watcher to being a participant. Like, it was nothing. He's cool as fuck, right?
Starting point is 01:05:13 Super cool, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to swag. He's everything that you would want to be as a person who's been in this game for fucking 50 years. You know, he's still just cool as fuck. as fuck still open a new shit still just like down for the content down for the culture yeah have is it did you expect him because like i've been like having kind of like weird experiences where i'm meeting people and they like not as nice as like i would expect them to be
Starting point is 01:05:40 like brison tiller threw a menu at me he probably doesn't even know he did it through a menu yeah he kind of like like tossed it but really let me put those back before i met some wow i didn't know that yeah but like i I would expect him to be somebody that's like super freaking nice. And I don't even think it had anything to do with me. He probably was having a bad night, you know? You got to be careful about just thinking that somebody is the way that you met them. Because sometimes you meet, somebody might run into me and I might be having a bad day and they might say like, yo, can I get a photo?
Starting point is 01:06:10 I'll be like, nah. And then they're going to go for the rest of their life. He was a dick. I saw him at Disneyland. He didn't want to take a photo with me. And it's like, there's a ton of other people who are like, they see me. Hey, can we go a photo? Yeah, Sherman.
Starting point is 01:06:21 How are you doing? Whatever. you know like it's so I don't know I mean I just I I do obviously like it's just a human thing to do that if you're around somebody for two minutes and they're a dick then you're just going to think they're a dick but also yeah I've been told that I'm unapproachable and that I look mean as fuck and it's like dang that's messed up because I feel like I'm like a bubbly sweet
Starting point is 01:06:41 nice person and shit but people have told me like my first impression is fucking horrible you just have your guard up a little bit I think Adam you don't know it's funny what thought you were an asshole at what point The first day I came. Really? Yeah. But you were like rolling up the whole time and I think he was playing poker. I could definitely be an asshole.
Starting point is 01:07:00 You're so cool, you know. I'm laid back. You're right about. I was probably worried about the pandemic. Yeah. You probably was like, I wonder if this bitch vaccinated. That was way before that. How old do you know?
Starting point is 01:07:17 20 sexy, seductive and sophisticated. You like that? Where do you see yourself? Like, what would you like your role in this game to be? If you could look at your career 10 years and be like, this is where you want to be at? I want to be the Angie Martinez of my generation. I want people to mention me when they mention like Big Boy,
Starting point is 01:07:37 Sway, even Roxy and Terrence, free and AJ. Like, that's Angie Martinez, DJ Head. Like, that's what, Adam. That's what I want to be like. I want to be on the LA Media Mount Rushmore one day. Right. But my biggest goal, I really, really, really would love to have, like, my own freestyle show or something like a 106 and Park if they ever, if Viacon ever decides to bring back 106 and Park
Starting point is 01:08:04 or Gina's world, like Cedar's World, or the basement or something like that, like, that's the type of show that I want. I also really want to produce Cyphers for the BT Hip Hop Awards and host them. I want to start off with hosting them, but when I'm like 40, 50, I want to produce them. All right. that's dope that's jeeter what uh
Starting point is 01:08:23 but so working in a no jumper has been good that made me feel very good when you were like you a D Troll you guys just want to see me be great you're just trying to encourage me when it even times like when you were interviewing the girls from see the thing is
Starting point is 01:08:37 uh huh and um when you guys were talking and you guys were talking like I forget what the fuck y'all talking I remember when you said my name okay but you were like
Starting point is 01:08:45 even Gina over there she has a show called Whole Fessions or like when you're interviewing people when you bring me up or even like when you fucking tweet or whatever the fuck I feel like you do a great job of like embracing me and you don't have to do that like you show me a lot of fucking love and it's like it's just welcome in arms like you know like I think we just want to be part of the come up and I think that's dope as fuck like Gina wins we look good yeah
Starting point is 01:09:11 you look like we did something good right so now I need you to get my man up here oh my god don't say the name I won't because they went crazy in my mentions And it is it about him that you just fucking love him so much. Is it the music? Is it his looks? It's the, I'm super into like, dudes with like that accent from over there. Where is it even from? New Jersey.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Oh, okay. Yeah. Like the, just like the East Coast accent is just so, I don't know, it just gets me good every time. You can wear your Yankees hat out there and nobody will say shit. Nobody will say anything. No, no, no, they game bang out there. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Yeah. But wearing his head is just a regular hat. It's probably, it's like probably wearing an LA hat out here. Yeah, 100%. But yeah, you've been welcoming me with open orders. You've been embracing me. You retweet me, post me here and there. Like, even when you was like, and this is like back to Matt Lately,
Starting point is 01:10:10 but when we had came in, I remember the, like, one of the first things you said was, I don't want you guys to stop nothing that you're doing, continue what you're doing. and, you know, everything will grow once you, you know, when you hear. Even when we did the social media, how you like, make sure you guys tag yourself under each post, I've gotten so many fucking followers from that. And you didn't have to do that because some people look at that as like, you guys are, you're looking for cloud or, you know, whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 01:10:36 But you're like, no, I need your followers. I like y'all that have followers. And I like y'all to put your name at the end of the post because it at least helps get the point across. I'm like, this is not just Adam posting about you getting arrested. There's other people on the team posting these things. But what's funny as shit is when you can see a post that Flacco did. And the No Jumper version is like, so-and-so was assaulted at the mall in Atlanta. And then you click Flacco's name and you get to see his version of it was like,
Starting point is 01:11:02 pussy ass got the beats at the mall in Atlanta. He can't never come back. Like Flacco has the way more controversial framing. Yes, he does. That flaco. You like him? Yeah, flanco's cool. Okay, that's good to know.
Starting point is 01:11:19 For sure. If you had one thing that you wanted to tell the people out there that will help advance the gene of views cause, that will help get you to Angie Martinez status by the time that you are menopausal. Menopausal is wild. Many years away. I don't know. What would I tell them? I'm Gina views.
Starting point is 01:11:42 I'm cute. And I know about rap. So follow me. Oh. That's what I would say about it. Is that your impression of me? My impression to you is when you go.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Run my hair through the transplant. Can I ask you a question? Is it about my hair? No. Okay. I know all about your hair. Sure. At one point where you was like, oh yeah, it's time.
Starting point is 01:12:04 It's time for the interview. For Gina? Yeah. What did we? It was before the boogie thing and everything. Or was it after at the end of the day? No, it was before that? Yeah, it was before that.
Starting point is 01:12:15 I don't know. I feel like at a certain point, once somebody has been on the channel long enough and stuff, it's good to just really do the deep dive. But you don't want to do it too soon when people don't necessarily know or whatever. You know, T. Rel, he put up a fucking fit because he realized that everybody had been interviewed besides him at one point. That's he real. That's a hero.
Starting point is 01:12:35 He'll do that. He's a funny guy. For sure. Okay. Anything else? Anybody you want to thank? I feel like I thanked everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Shout out to y'all. Shout out to everybody. Whatever. I make niggas rap. Rap. Rap, motherfucker. Is that another impression to me? Or that's just you saying what I said?
Starting point is 01:12:57 That's just anyone saying rap, motherfucker. Okay. All right, bye y'all. Appreciate you. Thank you for being part of the team. I'm very glad to help. Thank you for putting me on the team. Also, you know what part of it was was when we were at the live show
Starting point is 01:13:10 and I had like multiple girls stand up in the fucking crowd and be like, Adam, we need a girl on camera more often. Like, there's no female perspective. I was like, shit, that is a good point. So what's it? We'll figure it out. We'll figure Gina
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