No Jumper - The Hoovers Are at War?! 4xtra Shoots at No Jumper, Smac Craves Trans Women & More!

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

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I'm good on the corn. I'm good on the corn. Thank you. You ever have one of these? This shit's incredible. I think I might have taken a buyer or two before you. We survived off this shit. Ugh.

This is just fucking blasting out of your mouth. This is making me think about what you would look like doing something else. See, if I whooped your motherfucking ass right. now. Yeah. No, because I was in an orgy the other day and a guy was doing a move called the the corn on the cob or something. I don't, actually, I don't even know what he was like, Hey, bro, you're really gay as fuck. No, no, no, no. You are, bro. It was men and women having sex. No, it was no gay stuff. Huh? There was no gay stuff on. What you're talking about a man? I'm talking about some crazy shit. He had a move called like the corn cob or something.

But I didn't actually, I don't think I saw it. Because I was thinking it was going to be a girl with a dick like this. I was a move called the upside down pineapple. Yeah? No, I was banging a chick with another dude And the other guy grabs this little Asian girl And has her like this And he's eating her pussy while banging Crazy shit I ever seen He's got her up here

So he's gotta be on a promo clip Pussy's right here No, she's sideways She's like right here like But to the side He's holding onto her waist like this Her legs are right here And he's that it was very performing

but I don't know that I could necessarily do that. Oh, this is this is Uncle Lasers Prime. Uncle who? Uncle Laser. Oh, no. Okay. So, I'm going to be honest with you. I ate some of this everything 420 edibles last night.

The Blue Raz Lemonade, and I'm still kind of fried from it, honestly. Like, I'm not all the way here right now. I'm not 100%, but I'm trying to hold it together. This coffee's almost out, so that's done. Boy, they must again, a bag. You stay pumping they shit.

No. I just ate one yesterday. It's 250 milligrams. You been talking about everything, 420. You can't go seven minutes on the No Jumper news. I said they didn't gave bro a bag. We don't even talk about it on the news. We promoted

on the No Jumbers show on Tuesdays. No, no, bullshit. I saw you on the news. We talked about on the news, too. Oh, look at your cool, incredible diapers hat. Oh? Your incredible diaper hat. My boy's around the corner made it. The Fire Festival of Diper Brands. we're both here recording early

yeah because I'm going on vacation for Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday so I had to get this out the way It's the second time he made that same trips I'm going on up there It's the summer And we're going to well we're going somewhere north Not somewhere

Down south Who's niecey? Your daughter How is that my niece? Oh, you're going with you? Yeah No, we're going to leave her home with the dogs Are you taking a like a babysitter with you?

No. So no babysitter going with you? Okay, you might be on good behavior. No, yeah, yeah. That's like you, because you and your girl have made that clear that if you have a kid that you don't really consider it all that important that you spend time with the kid, that you're just going to kind of get a babysitter, wait until the kids six or seven, and then you start to talk to it. No, we said that we would have, no, for one, the conversation started that we would have a surrogate. Mm-hmm. And the surrogate...

That's before the kid's born. No, but after the kid's born... You get a surrogate parent. We would keep the individual with us for at least a couple years while we're moving around. There'd be with us. Why the surrogate? Like, why can it just be a babysitter or a friend and assistant? Why does it have to be the person that carried the baby?

I look at it like this, right? And this is the way I see it. If something was to happen to us, right? Uh-huh. And let's say the same. Serrigan felt like they wanted custody of the other child, I would be okay with that. They have no legal ability to request that at all. But I would be okay with that if like we went down on a plane or some shit.

Okay. You know what I'm saying? Isn't there like a family member that would make more sense? No, not necessarily. Surga really is just a random person. No, we ain't, man, we're going to really map this thing out. So we've been, I can't allow, I can't allow her to carry the child. That's out.

You haven't got to the point of surrogate shopping. have you? No, no, no, no. Oh, it's wild. Because you get to read bios, you get to see photos of the different surrogate options, and then you get to, the bio includes information like, are they on government assistance? Are they overweight? What is their diet like? Do they drink? Do they, you know, and that's what's kind of crazy about it, is that as of yet, Lennon has not really been able to find a surrogate that she's really that hyped on because, you know, she doesn't want a big fat surrogate, right? Because she's going to

assume that they're going to be making unhealthy life choices. But then at the same time, like, if you were a 10, if you had, you know, a great husband, if everything was going great in your life, if you didn't need the money, you probably wouldn't be doing the surrogate thing. That's real. So it's kind of tricky to figure out who's going to do this service for. Is it a certain race? I don't think she's concerned with that. It's like Scott Storch, his surrogate for, what's the crazy lady? Flow. Flow, Rada.

Their surrogate was Scott Storch's black baby mother. So he had a baby with a black woman. And then on his next wife, he said, let's use the black woman to carry the baby. That's a fact. I mean, being demoted from, like,

baby mama, like actual partner to surrogate is kind of rough. What you mean? I mean, most women would rather be, the wife or the woman who is like intentionally being impregnated than the woman who is just like being used to carry the child. It's like the other child that he has by her. I think maybe the kid like really like that's really my brother.

Okay. You get what I'm saying? Well, see, that's the thing about it is when you pay for the surrogate, it's like it might be 70 grand. 70 grand. So the surrogate, but then 40 grand to the agency. basically provides this whole service. So if you know someone in your life that is down to be the surrogate, you can save that 30 grand, 40 grand by just using someone that you know.

And it's a 70 plus the 40. Yeah, basically it'll cost you like 100 racks on average. So Leonard, she doesn't want to carry the next child. We're taking a break possibly for this next child. Then maybe we'll go back to her doing it afterwards. Didn't Jay-Z do that? did Beyonce, how many did she carry one or two? I'm not sure.

We know for sure she carried Blue Ivy. I don't know. I'm not really tapping. And I know somebody else because I remember them blocking down the whole hospital for one of the children. Really? Yeah, I kind of don't pay attention to Jay-Z lore outside of his music. Wow, you don't like Jay-Z? No, I like him, but I just don't really give a fuck about his, like, you know, family life or anything.

I mean, it'd be on the blogs. shit. They ain't like we investigated. It just be there. I'm just like I don't know what his kids look like. Oh, okay. Well, you know what? I didn't know what they look like until Kanye gets some crazy shit. I had never had a conversation about his kids

until Kanye said that shit. And then the fucked up thing is that I kept having people tell me like, nah, that's real. What's real? What was saying? What did Kanye say? I'm not repeating it. But I had a lot of people tell me like, you You do the people, right.

Kanye's, like, kind of saying the truth. But the rest of you entertainers, what I just did to him is what he does to you guys. But you dummies fall forward. I don't like to talk about people's kids. No, we ain't talking about that. T. Rose kid is going on borrow. His son is a twerker. Huh?

Let me get the fuck out of here. It is on Hollywood unlocked. Huh? You want to watch it? Come on, bro. What are you talking about? He might have been dancing, bro. Yeah, he was dancing.

He was twerking. What are you talking about twerking, bro? Like, what do you mean by that? I mean, you've seen twirking, right? Hey, bro, you're going to fuck around and you, T. Real, gonna pull up on you, bro. What's he gonna do? Tickle me?

Take a shot. He's gonna pull up on me parched. Trial, you brought that on yourself, bro. Yeah, he's talking about Mike. You're gonna do shit, right? But I'm a bigger man than him. Because I'm not gonna make content

about his son being in a twerk contest. How old is his son? I don't know, like seven or some sure. Oh, nah, come on, bro. He ain't, come on. You're busting it open. I mean, I mean, that's the thing is like when you don't have a strong male role model,

we ain't doing that. You might just be a twerker. I thought his son was maybe like teenagers. We ain't doing that. No, no, no. And then whatever you got. Imagine the way he's going to be throwing it when he's a teenager. What you mean, bro?

He's going to be throwing it back. Bro, you do know that's a black man's son, right? Right. When the motherfucker would crash out about this, Adam, you're going to find out. What's he going to do? Huh? He's going to take a shot. He's going to pull up to my section.

Glug, glug, glug, glug, glug. you know their whole thing is it was fake and we know who he's saying he never had an issue

with AC no he said he pulled up he bullied the whole scene I pull up yeah I just called in there another day

don't let me call AC I just called in there another day I started to listen to it and it was just TRO going shut your bald ass up shut your ball ass up

I couldn't watch it no 80 but prior to that AD was telling me, whack, T-Rail never had an issue with it, would act. I'm like, come on, bro, that's cap. This is the world that we live in,

in which you're able to publicly do an entire stream about someone beefing with them, and then after the fact, say, oh, that was all fake. Like, what made it fake? What wasn't fake? In order for something to be fake, we'd need, like, some kind of demonstration, evident. How's it fake?

That wasn't fake. How's it fake? He was really awesome. Act can't come out here. And he bullied the whole. Oh, this old shit. I know he didn't say that, right? And I realize this is a tired subject.

But the funny thing about it, the funny thing about the whole thing is that the reason why academics of T.R. I have beef in the first place is because when they were talking about Dave Free pulling up on academics to talk to him at the concert, T. T.rell said that Dave Free punked him. That Dave Free was in his face, bitched him out, et cetera. And then the irony of that is that now, now that it's all said it done, Terell has admitted that he actually did not talk to Dave Free at all.

What did I say? He had no clue what the conversation was actually like. What did I say? So he burned his whole relationship with AC just to say something that wasn't true. And you can kind of imagine that Dave Free wouldn't be hyped on that either. Remember I said, I said, bro, I know Dave Free. Right. Dave Free don't want nobody looking at him like he's pulling up on anybody on any negative.

Rara. That is not him. And if he's going to pull up on somebody and be on some tough shit or whatever, he's not. He probably wants to do it on his own terms. He probably doesn't want somebody who's basically viewed by the public as kind of being associated with TD spreading a fake narrative. Dave Free is Josh, bro. Don't do that. I don't know.

I don't even know what he looks like. I'm not doing that to him. Listen to me. There's nothing wrong with that. Jay Free. Look. You can't imagine Dave, Josh, pulling up on academics. This is what I'm telling you.

That's kind of hard to imagine. If Joss say I'm about to go talk to act, he means he's about to go talk to act. Day Free is not saying, yo, let's take some dudes over here and ride down on nothing. He's not participating. This ain't no disrespectful shit. Day Free is a businessman.

He's an ordinary dude who's very creative. You know what I'm saying? He used to be the mastermind. He had a lot of Kendrick, like videos and stuff like that. but he's he's not a dude to wear like problematic he ain't doing that if I told day free let's go off here ride down on this fool he's gonna be like

nah we're not doing that that's not mean would you I thought you and AD had the thing going on where he had challenged you to a fade didn't AD say that like you and AC needed a fade when that whole thing was popping out? He scared to act AD yeah because he knew of ACT but he challenged him to a But see, I said AD, how do you feel that these dudes pressured you into burning a bridge and saying fuck act, right?

And then turns around and runs into him and takes a shot. He took a shot. He was perched. I don't even know if I should show you this shit, no, bro. No, no, no, no. Because look, act told me, said, yo, whack, the dude is fucking asking me. Could he come hang out with me and shit, right? Wait, Tiro was asking,

if you could hang out in Turks? Hey, bro, let's stop it. You're about to make my week. Hey, bro. Hell no. There's no way. That would be, nah,

no, no, no. You see this smile on my face? This ain't no. This ain't no. This ain't no, acting smile. This is a real smile.

No, no, no. You're not going to show me that. Yo, listen, bro. Listen, he told me. I might need to eat some more of these other bowls. melt them down.

Go put this in the microwave. I need to melt them down and shrink 3,000 calories of cannabis. It's crazy. You don't have this. Yes, I do. It's taking too long. It's being knocked down. I was hyped as I was like 45 seconds ago.

Look. We can cut out a little bit of this war. I see she really church. So what are here? I'm not just Look out Look bro I had to tell him to look out for him

That's a day before the yacht That's why he let him go on the fucking yacht That text is why he If you call act right now Straight up blind right now And say why did you let T-Rill on the yacht Watch what he tell you I told him to look out for him

He said yo this dude is asking me Wow I'm telling you That's crazy You see Tiro was asking to come on the boat after the fact.

He's probably sick of being like, you know, I feel like Paul Pierce was probably treating him like the pool boy. He probably like wasn't answering the phone and shit.

He probably tell him like, hey, can you go do a load of laundry take care of these towels? He probably was like not answering the phone. You know what I'm saying? And like,

hey, what we're doing? And so, you know, Tira wanted to feel like he had his own thing, but he didn't have nothing going on. Like, anytime I'm going

somewhere with somebody and we got an agenda cool, if the agenda's not sit to me before we leave, I create shit that we're doing anyway. Okay.

Because I'm not going to be sitting around with my chick, like, well, I'm waiting for him to answer the phone. Which way did we go? Which way? That's his crazy. I've never really been the guy who had, like, a rich friend and I was sort of like just mooching off him. The closest, honestly, was like back in the day when it would be like, you know, little

pump going to a big ass Coachella performance. And like, you're like, it's a bunch of y'all. You're like a few of the homies hanging out, but you're kind of like just waiting until whenever he's ready or whatever. And it was kind of like that with Juice World sometimes too. Why did you do a little punk? Y'all was good, right? No, we're good still.

So y'all good right now today. Yeah. We've been talking. So y'all. I'm going to go to Florida and film him. I want to do like a whole video about like what became of the SoundCloud rappers about him and smoke perp and shit. Got you.

Tell people. I always wonder why did y'all fall out? Actually, like I didn't know for a long time, but then he ended up. telling me that he basically was just pissed off because the no jumper page was posting like negative narratives about him and he felt you was in control of that yeah which is i mean honestly i have almost no involvement with what the fuck is going on with the no jumper instagram but i mean i understand how that was not attentive to his feelings so i get it got you what um did you see the receipts that i posted from drake speaking about loose cannon bro this dude lied about his

whole life, bro. Like, one thing we can say, Big Gigi, his wife, she ain't, bro, because this dude to me and you, he made it seem like there was a relationship there. Yeah. I didn't, you know, I was like, remember the Drake feature? Remember? I'm like, I don't know where that came from, but Drake pretty much told you. I mean, he sent me the screenshot that proves basically that he has never spoken to loose canon that he doesn't know anything about him and the messages that was sending to drake were not the kind of messages that indicated that they had ever had anything to do with each other off camera really it was like loose canon just begging for him to repost his content over and over and i actually saw a clip in the reddit or some maybe on one of the fucking

fan accounts that was basically loose cannon speaking from prison or from the jail about the fact that I talked about him last night. And instead of debunking me in any way or saying that I was full of shit or that Drake was confused or any of the excuses that he might have used that would actually make this make sense. Instead, his whole argument was, you've seen it. They got to talk about me. They got to talk about me every week because they ain't got nothing else to talk about. God is good.

They're talking about me. Let me ask you a. When's the last time we talked about you? B, please stop lying. You are not the topic of conversation. If anything, me bringing you up right now. You're a part of the joke. It is useless because nobody gives a fuck about the loose campaign.

Let me ask you a question. If I had brought this information to the table three months ago, now we're talking. But as of right now, nobody is a fuck. So I'm sorry, Luce, but that excuse really does not hold water. Let me ask you a question. Sure. Because you're a guy to keep up with all kind of shit. Every time I'm coming here, you at this computer and you're researching.

I think I think I kind of had to fight you a little bit to even get him into the table because you was like, who the fuck is he? Yeah. And I keep telling people, I got to take the hit

because I introduced him to the world. I don't remember you even asking. I think you just showed up one day with him and you were like, hey, this guy is going to come on. No, no, no, no, because the first episode when he was with his girl, his girl, I was open to that because I thought they were kind of an interesting little duo.

Yeah, she was half-necked and running around here. I'm telling myself, God damn, but why, you know, as men around here, put some clothes on. But I think she was trying to get your attention. She got it. Yeah, because she was naked. She got a whopper sticking off her backside. Yeah, whatever that.

I mean, you know what me is like when it gets to a certain point, it's just fat. You know, it's a cutoff line with me. It almost sounds like a body, then. Like a horse vibe in the back. I'm not saying that a negative way, but her ass kind of looks like the ass on a horse. Yeah, but do you think that she's sticking around for? for all the shit. You think, because, oh, yeah,

they were telling me last night that when you watch the YouTube content of Lewis Cannon that he's not talking to her anymore, he's talking to a random fan. No, he's talking to two, three other dudes. She's smart, man, listen, for him to even put her in a line of fire

to do that shit, he didn't give a, he didn't care about her. Because you know what comes with it. So, you know, and like a lot of things. So you think they might be done? No, I think she's going to hang around. until she sees it's dark.

He's still trying to convince her that he's going to get out with time. He's telling her he's going to cooperate. He's telling her he got a way out of there. I will tell you this. Big U says word. He sent word. That look, tell Wack and 600 in them.

I need them to have somebody in court because Luce's been going to court without everybody else. And so, There's nobody to transcribe what's happening? He sent word through his home boy, Kenny Kingpin, right? You know, everybody's still connected and they own no way. Okay. So we got to do it on our team that talks to Kenny every day.

Right? And Kenny will call him if he needs to, but, you know, he's like, yo, something going on with dude. Big, you are no first, right? But he's like, dude ain't right. He's already cooperating. He's doing something. So then when she puts out this clip, Yes, my husband is getting himself separated from the Rico.

Here's the thing. And you can ask Anne Hefe about this when you're all back on. You ain't going to just get separated from a Rico without going to court. You got to file things and things that. And for them to separate you kind of kills off the big you empire. Right. Because you're one of the robbers, right? So we already seen what he was attempting to do on the money might murder.

I mean, what incentive would they possibly have to remove you from the RICO when they charged you in the first place unless you were... There it goes. Participating and cooperating. But again, like I told you, like, dude, them be getting like 800 views and six hours and shit, like some... Yeah, so he's dead and water. They could do what they want to do. Sharisa ain't crazy. That's really her page.

She had that page prior to him. And the little dudes he got going on there, they ain't nobody. They'd be like, bro, what does it pay you a 10-minute phone call, a thousand views? Like, what are you? Honestly, you might make like 10 bucks. You know, well, he's all right. Yeah, that makes sense, right? He's all right.

Listen, man, they dropped Shannon Sharp. Who did? They just fired him. I didn't even know that, really? Yeah, they fired him, bro. He settled with the chick for the 50 million, I guess. And then who dropped him? What was that? ESPN.

ESPN, custodized with Shannon Shriver or settlement out of sexual assault lawsuit. I would have thought that the settlement would have made it so that they could continue to do it. That's what I thought. Because remember you had a $100 million play on the table. Yeah. I thought she was dumb. She should have let him sign that, then filed it. But I thought him settling with her.

Some of the proceeds was that. Yeah. But, I mean, we're in a world now where it's like, you know, much does ESPN really provide Shannon Sharp with? He could just do his podcast. I don't really feel like he's that dependent on their co-sign, right? Club, Shea, She, is that? That's him. That's him. Yeah.

I don't even, what was he doing for ESPN? Was he just like doing like color commentary type shit? Whatever he was doing, they was paying him. Okay. I guess he's just like one of the commentators on the show, basically. And when somebody like ESPN drops you across the board it's going to be a flush oh yeah that makes everybody else scared yeah you're not you're not fin it so yeah he hasn't been on the network since april but yeah they got rid of him which is too bad but i mean really at the end of the day like i don't feel

like he's all that dependent on that the the right wing sort of like you know political world is so full of people who are not advertiser friendly in any way could never be on camera on behalf of an ESPN or a Fox and they're still doing quite well for themselves. As long as he has fans, he'll probably go in more of a crowdsourcing type direction where maybe he's getting, you know, his fans are giving him five bucks a month or some shit like that. Or maybe he just leans more into the ads and everything because in reality, I feel like his shit is like very strong on an independent level.

Yeah, definitely. His views is crazy. How you feel about Trump saying black people built this country? Did he say that? Yeah. What? Recently? Yeah.

I mean, there's no denial that some percentage of the manual labor in particular was done by black people in early America. But it almost feels untrump-like to even acknowledge that. He's always trying to draw attention to white grievances as opposed to, you know, acknowledging the plight of the black American. Well, I think his balance is good. You know, Trump tends to like, he had come in, he'd do something crazy for white America to make the brink. Blacks say, hey, man, what's going on? And then he'll come in, pardon Larry Hoover. The blacks built his country and then says, I'm going to pardon Diddy.

Right. But everything that he does now needs to be viewed through the lens of like, oh, are you doing this to take attention off of other things that you don't want to talk about? Because it feels like the Epstein thing is like the one thing that his fan base is actually moved by. You know, Joe Rogan, Andrew Schultz, a lot of these. top commentators that have had his back for however many years are kind of looking at Trump now like so you're not going to tell us anything about the Epstein shit you're not going to release

information we have tons of information to suggest that you're all wrapped up in these files and then meanwhile you want us to care about random bullshit you want to start talking about how Obama needs to be prosecuted you want to talk about how the the Redskins need to change their name back all this shit. And even his fan base is looking at this like, we don't care. We want you to get to the bottom of this Epstein thing. And until you do so, why? Because he promised for years and years and years that this was explosive information that the Democrats had been hiding it. He claimed over and over and over that he barely had a relationship with Epstein. We're now kind of learning that Epstein might have been the closest friend that Trump has ever had throughout his entire life. So now I feel like

Trump's fan base is finally really looking at him. skeptically and I don't know if it's enough to really like ruin his base, but it feels like, you know, if the election were held today, this is the kind of thing that would actually really impact. It's too late. He already in there. Yeah, yeah. And I'm going to be real.

The black folks, we don't give a damn about what's going on with Epstein. We care about it is what things you can put in position for our communities to benefit from. Epstein's a white dude, right? Look like you a little bit. I've never heard that before. Y'all favor a little bit. No, I've never heard that before, but... He got a beard?

I don't think so. Yeah, I think he does. No. Right? We don't give a damn about it. I mean, look, if he did something to the children, I hope the children are all right, but end of the day, that's something that was happening in Caucasian land.

That really ain't our thing. I don't know if he was taking part in young black girls, but he certainly was having such with a lot of very, very young white girls. I've seen Epstein Island. I've been out here. If you saw a video of Trump fucking a 16 year old,

would that be enough for you to turn your back on him? Depending on what state he was in. So you're more concerned about the legality of it. Well, here's the thing, right? And I tell people this. If his ass in California, I'm going to look at him weird. If you're, when I was grades, I was grown, I was raised and grew up in California.

So in my head, 18, 18, 18, people in Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, right? 16, 16, 16, Georgia. New York is 17. There's more 16. What if she was an age that was not legal in any state? What if she was 13? Oh, yeah, then he's a pedal.

Right. But without get you to actually turn your back and speak out against him, because that's what we haven't really seen the supporters do. Yeah, at that point, I believe they could be moving from office. I don't know. Yeah, bro. If you, I mean, I guess they had Trump having sex with a minor. Hmm.

That footage came up. Yeah, he's out of there. The thing is, is that, like, even if there was footage, they're probably, it's probably not going to be conclusive enough. He's going to say it's not really him. He's going to say the girl was of age. He's going to say all these different things. And I feel like at a certain point, it's just going to, like, they're not going to be

able to prove it conclusively enough. Even if they have, like, a modern interview with the girl where she says that he did it, I feel like still going to be able to somehow warm. his way out of it. Like he's warmed his way out of everything else. I mean, the thing about it, they don't have this. Well, they're saying because he's just guy's friend. Just because he's his friend, maybe they did some businesses. Dude, what's a billionaire, right? So just because he's his friend and they did business, doesn't mean Trump was involved in his pedophilia. I agree with that, but there's a lot of, like, little things. You know, there was a note from Trump that he wrote to

Epstein where he said, may every day be another special secret or some shit like that, which a lot of people are looking at that. Like, that's weird. And there's even like, you know, writings that Trump did where he mused about the fact that one of their main things that they had in common was a love of women together, although Epstein tended to like them a little younger. Like, this is actual shit that Trump said. And given the context of him.

He said women, not little girls. Yeah, but he said that he liked them on the younger side, which, you know, honestly, I mean, Given that we know that Epstein was this prolific pedophile, it is kind of weird that you have multiple instances of Trump basically talking about secrets and young girls and shit. That's kind of odd, right? You and CEMAC got secrets. Crip Mac? Yo, you and Brick Baby got secrets. What are my secrets for Cripmack?

I don't know. I'm pretty sure it's things that only you guys talked about. You're implying to me and Critmac have done gay things together. No, that's not what I would never say that. I don't think Crimax's gay. And what I'm saying is everybody got some information. they only share it with one with an individual. That's a secret, right?

But if me and you were no longer cool, neither of us would be able to credibly accuse the other or pedophilia. No, no, I mean, what do you mean? Like, I don't know what the hell you need. I hope you ain't doing nothing like that. I mean, I can say whatever I want about you, but I don't, yeah, but what I'm saying is, you think when they're doing business, some of the shit they do, the underhanded shit they do to get their way to get these contracts, you think him and Elon Musk don't have any

secrets. Elon came in there, secured a bunch of crazy contracts, and then made it look like it was an issue, so he got out of there. Well, it's funny that you're all smoking mirrors. Say that because Elon basically accused Trump of being a pedophile. He said those words? Not those words, but he said Trump is in the Epstein files. Okay. A lot of people's in the Epstein files. Remember that whole list came out? But the thing is, everybody that been to the island didn't participate in the activity with the Keep in mind, Elon said this at the peak of them beefing. And the thing is, is that we already know that Trump spent tons of time hanging out with Epstein.

That's not news. So that's not the slam dunk that Elon was suggesting. But he did say that he was in the Epstein files. And this is the other thing is that the Epstein files are the thing that Trump refuses to release. And people like Dan Bongino and Cash Patel, et cetera. These were all people who are very, very vocal about Epstein's list being released once Trump came into office. and now Trump's base feels very betrayed because he's not willing to provide this information.

And Trump is actually lashing out at his fans for wanting this information that he previously told them that they deserved and that he would introduce to them. I'm not somebody who was terribly invested in all of this beforehand. It's only now seeing how guilty Trump and all of his subordinates are acting that I'm like, oh, okay, well,

it seems like something fucked up is going on because you guys all are clearly trying to draw attention away from this and are not handing over the information that you claimed, like, a few months ago that you had. See, I knew it was a cover-up when they came with DeMuette King files. Yeah, exactly. There was another thing that nobody gives a fuck. Yeah, when they came with those files, I said, okay, they're trying to keep some attention on something else. Yeah.

Now, my thing about it is this. Now, walk with me. Walk with me. Do you think if Trump was in those Epstein files in a foul manner that they wouldn't have brought that up during the election? No, for sure, because I mean, keep in mind that Biden's in office. Joe Biden was in office until very, very recently. Do I think his name is mentioned in there? Do I think he did Vince with Epstein?

I'm just looking. I'm not one of them people you could throw something out. And I'm like, oh, whoa, oh, bro, Biden was in office. He despises Trump, right? He would have definitely exposed that. So them saying Trump's and Epstein filed, okay, they came out with a list of celebrities that have been in Epstein Island. That don't mean those celebrities went there to do something crazy.

You get what I'm saying? And previously, I would have had your back on that. But the way that he's acting as if there's something so damning that they don't want released in these files, that really makes me feel like, oh, shit, he's hiding something. Do I think it's something in there that he may be after him? the answer to? Definitely. Do I think it's sexually related to children?

No. Do I think it's business related to somehow, some way doing what he does best? Yes. I think if it's any foul play, it's on the business side. I don't, bro, ain't no way Biden want to let that go.

Think about it. Like, bro, his VP is running against him. I agree. This is who he wants at office. right? He knows his family's protected. His son and be protected with her in office. So do I think it's some foul playing there when it comes to Trump? Yeah. Sexually with the children, no. If it was that, it would have been exposed. Well, but it's something there because... He's the only person who can release this information. What you mean? I mean, nobody else is going to be able to officiate it being released than him. Our government, like so... If there's nothing to hide, then he could easily...

soothe our concerns right now. And he's not. No, you're right. Instead, he's scrambling around like a chicken with his head cut off, talking about all this other random shit. So you're saying he's going to delay it until he's out of office. Well, that's what has been his strategy with a lot of things. Like, that's basically what he's always been doing with his tax returns. Tax returns

typically get released when you're running for president. He said, no, I can't because I'm being audited. People said that doesn't make any sense. Here we are. Over eight years later, we still don't have the tax returns. So I feel like Trump Trump is a master. It's sort of running out the clock and creating attention around other things to distract people from the thing that he doesn't

want people to talk about. This might be the one thing that he's not able to run that game on because his fan base is very invested in this. He don't give a damn about no fan base. He does. He follows the word of his fan base. When he's at his rallies, he says something and he sees what gets response and he tends to go in the direction of his fan base.

And that's why a lot of things that you could reasonably assume that he doesn't actually believe like for instance Obama being from Kenya or whatever like I don't think that Trump is actually stupid enough to believe that but it gets a response from his fan base so it's something that he's used over the years because his fan base went with it and the Epstein shit is the same thing where it's like maybe Trump doesn't have anything to hide maybe Trump was just using the Epstein shit as a as a way to rally his fans but now he's in the position of looking like a massive hypocrite unless he finds a way to placate them. Bro, one thing we know about Trump, all his life, he's found a way.

Yeah. But even that's going to run out as important. I thought you were a Trump supporter. No. We've talked about this enough for you to know that that was not true. No? I mean, there's things that he's done that I'm in favor of. Oh, okay.

I think we should have built the wall. I love my Rasa, but I think a wall would have been nice. I think that the way everybody acted like the wall was so offensive is kind of crazy. You're anti-Mexico. No, I'm anti-illegal immigration, though. Oh. I think we need a tight border. So you think so?

You're with to ICE people. No. You're pro-ice. I think a lot of what they're doing is kind of gross. But I think in general, we need to be very strict about our border. And I think the wall would have easily accomplished that or, you know, something that's effectively like a wall. Instead, the Democrats rallied behind the idea that the wall was racist. And then Trump basically won this election.

And because he was stronger on immigration, the left didn't really have a way for them to say, like, yeah, we care about immigration once they had called the wall racist for all those years. And he barely talked about the wall, this election cycle. Yo, four extras looked at my story. Couldn't believe. Oh, shit. I left him a message. What did you say? Stay focused.

What is he focused on right now? No, whatever it is, I told him stay, I might have told him get focused. Uh-huh. But he left me, I'm like, oh, shit. I haven't heard from him. You know what I'm saying? I haven't heard from him either. And apparently he doesn't seem like all that concerned about doing an interview

or doing any kind of content. He knows you're a snake. He knows that shit. I'm a snake. I'm the one who was paying him for all those months. He's the one who decided that he had greener pastures out there that he was going to go get cashed out for doing another piece of conscience somewhere else. I mean, he would have got the money.

He would have kept getting paid by me all these months. You should have been on the news. I'm on. Hey, I'm cool with it. whole time you you block and shit what did I block two three of his opportunities getting paid how the only person I talked to was Vlad and Vlad told me that he had already rejected the amount that four extra was asking for why you didn't offer him something because I had already been paying him and then he did not contact me or offer me this content in any way which made me feel like

why didn't you just send an offer who am I going to send it to he didn't respond to me changed his number actually after he blew his hand off. You could have sent it to Lupe. This is my thing. I don't chase pussy. I'm not saying no. You know,

but I'm saying, there can be the baddest bitch in the world and if I got to fight for it, I don't want it. You know, let me tell you. It's a metaphor. I got a call for my homeboy, right?

I grew up with him named Charmaine Barsman. And we, I lost communication and somehow he, he ended up moving LA and being from rolling 60s. I had no idea it's about a month ago, right? He did about 20-something.

He calls me this morning and said, hey, you know, I know you. We grew up together. See what? He said, Adam has no filter. He's a white dude who will never comprehend loyalty like that. So, and you just made me realize. The only loyalty that I'm being asked to a bye-bye-bye. like the most insane

manipulative bullshit. You just referred to four extras as a bitch. No, I did not. You see, I speak as if I'm talking to adults and you're going to interpret what I said as if you were a child.

You always refer to your chat. It's a metaphor. No, yeah, but see, see, I'm starting to understand. Hey, in Philadelphia, though, anybody can take it however they want to take it. I don't give a fuck. See, that kind of shit.

See, that's, but again, I'm talking to grown- I'm not stooping down and communicating like a child. No, but I'm just saying... So we should never use... It's a metaphor. I'm not saying he's a bitch. I'm just saying no matter how hot a girl is, I'm not chasing it.

But what I'm saying is when we're obviously talking about an individual, your mind doesn't register. Don't say this now. It's a metaphor. Yeah, but all metaphors ain't designed to be said about certain shit. Like, but I'm getting it. See, you're really in front of me, and I can see that you're really like, what the fuck are you talking about? You really not comprehend.

And it ain't your fault. It's just that coming from what we come from. And to you, you like, hey, bro, I'm using this out of an example. I know what we're talking about. But what I'm telling you is, because you used it while we were talking about what we're talking about, we're going to take it like you're calling him a bitch. No. No, I'm telling you.

No, I hear what you're saying. I'm using a woman as a metaphor. So you don't understand that. I'm saying. No, I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. I'm just saying that that's how like a fifth grader would interpret it. See, now you just took another shot.

No, but I'm saying by the time you were like, by the time you were able to graduate high school, I think that you should be able to understand the idea that if I'm doing a metaphor, I'm saying, whack, a podcast is like a sandwich. You've got your bread, you've got your vegetables, you've got your meat, you've got your sauce. That's different. I get that. And I think that you would be able to understand and not say, well, Adam, a podcast is not a sandwich.

You can't eat a podcast. That's not where I'm going with this. What I'm going with this is. No, this is exactly. No, I'm not. Because that, I get that, right? Nobody would take any kind of way. When we're talking about an individual man, then we're talking about an individual that we

knows sees shit one way. Let's come down, right? we both understand four extras, I think, right? Yeah. All right. So, so for us to be talking about this man and for you to reference anything that has to do with a bitch or a woman, I think you could have found something else that fit and was a little more appropriate. I get what your sandwich.

I would, yeah, you get it. I get it. Because you're going to say, this is like the bread and this is like the meat. And I get it, right? The reason why that is the metaphor that jumps into my mind. immediately is because you're an asshole it often occurs to me I just say it no all of my

podcast co-hosts are kind of like little different mini romances you just did it what do you mean by that what is a mini romance in the sense of like you know it's not like I'm actually having sex with most of my co-host obviously there are exceptions like brig baby but like we what I do

is it's kind of like you meet someone you form a bond a connection of sorts and then, hey, maybe that person decides at one point that they want to go find out if there are better opportunities out there. Maybe they don't want to be in a relationship with me. Maybe they want to go and try to see if they could form a relationship with somebody else. That's okay. That's fine.

They can do that. So you haven't. I'm not going to chase him. You haven't really set back and thought about anything that may have rubbed him the wrong way? If you could do anything different, let me ask you. Would you have done anything differently? Yeah, I would have teleported to Vernon Avenue and I would have yanked the M-80 out of his hand and I would have thrown it all the way to the opposite side. No, I mean, what am I going to do differently?

I would, no, I'm just asking you. The only thing that I'm aware of. If you said you would have handled it all the same way, didn't it? The only thing that I'm aware of that he's mad about is something that I would not apologize for and I would never compromise on, which is I do podcasts and we talk about what's going on. and sometimes I might be doing a podcast with someone who doesn't get along with somebody else, and I'm still going to have a conversation with them about the thing that we're talking about. Everybody you sat down with, right? I'm not even talking about you sitting down with him, right?

But I think I would have controlled the Gumby's slander at him. How am I got to control Gumby? Listen. Gumby's his own man. I'm not saying you sitting down with him. Whatever. Gumby is a funny dude. You know, he's.

cared to do, right? But I think when it came to him attacking four extras, I think that, the King Peele shit, he had been coming in. That was way after 4XA had already cut ties with no jumper and stopped speaking to me because the original thing, like, was King Pill and Munchy conversation,

all that, that's like a month before the Gumbi episode. That's a given. The King Pill, Munchy, be shit is a given. Right. That's what, that's been going on.

But then, like, Gumby is someone that I had been trying to get on the podcast for a couple months at that point. We finally made it happen.

The idea that I would, what, like, censor him talking about Forrestra's hand. I mean, why would I do that? What the fuck?

Like, he could talk about it. It's in the news. It's not like it's a secret. Let me tell you what's happening, Adam, and I think you don't understand this. I really ain't told,

you know, because, bro, if you in the street, and you call yourself a gangbanger, when you bring your ass up here and sit at this table, all them politics and all how it's supposed to go and what it is in the county jail and prison in the hood,

that shit doesn't exist in here. Period. And I think what's happening is, and it ain't on you, a lot of the characters that we see on social media happen to be gangbangers, right? but some of them like Hawk I believe Hawk

gets it to a point to where he knows it got to be a little giving it because you said some crazy shit to Hawk I just emailed you something that you pull up you said some crazy shit to Hawk that I was like okay maybe he he's in the right state of mind

like what somebody was talking about his day birthday and whenever somebody was up there with you and he was like oh I can't go maybe it was lush or something. I don't know. I can't go.

My kid is doing with something shit like that. And you said, fuck your kid. I was like, fuck the kid. You go to podcast. Right then.

The Hoover Hulk that we know would have flipped out on your ass. See, but you... That's such a retarded thing to flip out about it. I don't believe that. See, the fact that you're saying that, yeah.

I think I'm the only one that can really isolate the crazy shit you say. I love that. I do a podcast where it's so obvious that we are joking around and we're having fun that offensive jokes are part of it. And then we have a whole mob of fans out there that are so committed to finding offense in everything.

They want to sow division between the host so bad. And then the host don't give a fuck. And they're just like with the pitch force just rallying. No, you have to be offended by this. Let me know when you're done. And we shouldn't even be giving air time to these kind of pathetic opinions. Okay. You done?

Sure. Okay. Now. Hulk mentions he has a kid on the way I can't pretend you tell Hawk and you're saying it was out of fun fuck your kid I would love to see it so that we could actually show how obviously sarcastic I was being in the moment because hawk's opinion or what he said is he didn't hear you I'm not gonna no I seen like a comment where he was responding to somebody talking about this where he said like I'm not going to get out of pocket over something that was obviously a joke what the fuck is wrong with you no he didn't hear you at the time

but he responded to it on instagram what he was they were they able to do because people were kept telling him about it was go back and look at it and then see afterward you said obviously you didn't hear me I made a joke about whatever oh I did clarify right right right so he was able to see the whole thing I'm talking about the hawk and the people know any man right and I got you in the trick bag on this one when somebody mentions their kid and a man says fuck your kid right it's a immediate response. Now, why did I tell you, I don't give a fuck what you say about T-Rill?

He got that coming because of what? Because his son's throwing it back in a circle? Yeah. Because he said, well, you know what? And I really can't say nothing because he says something about your child. And no, the reason why I was so obviously a joke is because I have never disrespected anybody's kids on this podcast aside from one person, T-Rill. So, so let me ask you something.

Do you think disrespecting somebody's kid should be in the joke category? I think it's certainly something you can make jokes well, yeah. You believe that shit. That you can make jokes about having children? Yeah, of course. No, about somebody's kid. Like, say, you believe the words, fuck your kid should be in the joke category. I mean, how many times have you watched a stand-up set and seen the comedian make jokes about their kids and other people's kids?

Their kids, yeah. but I'm just telling you, you're on a whole other planet because you're really, you ain't bullshit right now. You're looking at me like, hey, what the fuck? It was a joke. No, because you're trying to like stir up some kind of imaginary controversy and imaginary offense where in context, when it was a bunch of people who were actually cool on a podcast together, there wasn't any offense.

But this is what they do is that now people decide to get the pitchforks out and be like, you weren't offended, but you're a bitch because you weren't offended. Let me tell you why I'm not trying to stir it up. The picture I'm trying to paint is that where you're at mentally and how you see shit in your world. 4D. Chess, yep. Is totally different to how we take what you say. And the people... No, but actually, the fact that I made a joke and that nobody got offended by it besides the people who were in the comment...

You didn't hear you. But that proves that actually there was no offense because I even explained, I doubled back and said, hey, it's awkward because I made this joke and you didn't hear me. and so nobody laughed. I explained it to him. And he still didn't give a fuck because it was obviously a joke. Listen.

And friends can joke around with each other. He's not your fucking friend. Y'all just made each other. We might not be a full friend status yet. I believe that if he would have heard you initially, he would have reacted another way. I don't think so. I think it would have got that it was a joke.

No. You want to call him? I don't care. This would call him guy. Now, do I think you was playing in your own twisted-ass way? Yeah. You burnt out like that. This is why I don't pay you no attention when you saying gay shit.

I think everybody should be able to make jokes about everything, including their children, including HIV, STDs, illegal immigration, cancer. You can't make jokes about that. So somebody says, my sister died of breast cancer. You're going to make a joke about the breast? If the joke was good enough, then I think it would be accepted. See, you're fucked up in the head, bro. Why? Some of these things, it's just you can't joke about it.

I have a bunch of family members who died from cancer. Yeah, okay. I don't think cancer is off limits as far as something you can make a joke about. So if your aunt died of cancer, you would joke with your uncle about his wife dying to cancer? No, I'm talking about just joking about cancer in general. Like, if there was some joke that was about cancer and it was funny. And then someone's aunt died of cancer, that joke, that joke,

could still be funny outside of the fact that you personally dealt with the trauma of somebody dying from you. So hypothetically speaking, some of your aunt dies of breast cancer, right? Would you tell your uncle, well, how long did you expect her to live with a rotten breast? With a rotten tit? I mean, it's not funny, but if it was funny,

I can imagine it being funny. And you would say it. Some shit is just off limits. Is anything, is anything off limits to you? Not if it's funny. I think as long as it's actually funny, then you should be able to joke about anything. Okay, so you do know, right, on some real shit.

Now, here we want to say this. I got to respect what you're saying about you because it's you. You're saying as long as it's funny, it's not off limits, although somebody may be offended by it. Okay, so that says that if it's funny that somebody beating the shit out of you and slugging you with a hammer, that's not off limits either. That's funny, right? Because some people may take that as being funny.

Let's do the actual example of this. let's say that tomorrow I'm leaving here and I get jumped and they beat the shit out of me with hammers. Yeah. Some people may think it's funny. Are we no longer able to make jokes about someone getting beat up and attacked with hammers? No. That's still something you could potentially joke about. Now, would it be funny if immediately after I was beating with hammers and I'm in the hospital,

if Donnie hopped on Instagram and said, L.O.L. Adam got beat with hammers. No, that probably wouldn't be funny. That's what you let happen for extras. You just see what? That's what you let happen to four extras. How? You let Gumbie sit here and say what he said about, they called him like, they said some crazy shit.

I don't know what they said, nuby and some shit. Let me explain to you in a way that I think you can understand. No, bro. See, do you understand the concept of a platform? No, I get all that. Like when you get on what social media are you primarily on Instagram, when you get on Instagram and you say something crazy and you get out of pocket. Nobody looks at Mark Zuckerberg and says, how dare you let this person be on your platform

saying these terrible things? Well, some people might report it, but I don't think anybody actually thinks that Mark Zuckerberg is worse. Nobody's ever going to Mark Zuckerberg and said, why do you continue to allow Wack 100 to say things that he does on social media? Now, when I say that, I'm saying, Gumby on here making jokes about Foresha, I view it's the same way. It may be a platform that I own, but I, except for extreme cases, don't.

feel like it's my job to litigate speech. You get beat with a hammer, okay? You get beat with a hammer. You get beat with a hammer. You're in the hospital, and they go fucking put up a post of somebody hammering a nail and tag your wife

and say, how's your day? That sounds like the kind of joke that absolutely people would make. And do you think that would be appropriate? I don't think that I have any room to tell random people on the internet what they can and can. I said, do you think it was my close friend?

Okay, yeah, I think that's inappropriate. That's not really what a friend would do. Do you think you and 4-Xs were close friends? I would say that he had basically told me that we were very close friends. No, no, fuck what he told you. See, there ain't going to problem, y'all. I think we were friends. I'm asking you.

Very close friends. Now you're kind of getting into the territory. I might not be comfortable with friends. That's you and brick baby because y'all did gay shit sometimes. Yeah, sure. Okay, so you think he took it a little more serious than you did? if he thought that we have the kind of friendship that meant that I wasn't going to have a conversation with him blowing one of his appendages off on the podcast, if he thought that that was the extent of our friendship,

he was confused because I don't really have that kind of friendship with almost anybody. We talk about the news on here. I think it's only a couple of people up here. Huh? Josh or Remo maybe. What about them? Them probably, Mikey. It's only, I think you're close friends.

are the people that's really a part of the internal workers of your business. Yeah, probably. Everybody else is expandable. I prefer for my close friends to really, like, not have anything to do with no jumper, ideally. That would be great. Like, I used to have all my, like, when I first started, it was like, oh, I'm going to hire all these people that I'm friends with. And as time goes by, you find that it's actually a lot better to employ people that are not,

that don't feel like they have that sort of relationship. Now, do I feel like I have friendships with a lot of people who work here? Yeah. But also I don't want it to become so close that they feel like they can manipulate and take advantage of me. Now, if it's what was good for the go was good for you, it was good for them too, right? So if you say slick shit about them that you think nothing wrong with it, they can say slick shit back? Can they say slick shit back to you in the same lane that you did to them and not have to worry about any repercussions behind it? You're talking about the hosts on no jumber?

anybody else like if you pop it and have faith and you say some slick shit about that he took offended right and you know he didn't say none of ain't fuck it can he pop some slick shit back at you and you say and he says hey i thought it was funny and you like hey bro i don't appreciate it without without you and i actually feel like a huge percentage of what we do on camera here is basically like talking about jokes conversations etc and deciding if they were for whatever reason appropriate or not appropriate. Like that's just, that's a huge percentage of the oxygen that has expanded on this podcast. So for sure, yeah. I mean, if I offend Anne Hefe and he wants to joke back at me and then I could assume we're going to end up having a whole prolonged, drawn out conversation about was Adam's joke funny? Was Anne Hefe's joke funny?

I mean, sure. So long as it leads to content, you good with it. Well, that is kind of what we're doing here. No, I'm just, I'm asking you. So. I mean, I have people. on the podcast, you don't even have to say somebody I'm cool with like, An Fae, like the Gumbi thing

was kind of like, I had him on the podcast because he had kind of put himself out there as an adversary to me. So that's me inviting somebody on the podcast who I knew was going to be talking shit to me. And that's why I invited him because I knew it was going to be good content.

Got you. No, he's definitely funny to do. I'm curious about what I would say. You and Gumbie together. Just text me. Not homies. Will you and Gumbie do an episode together? Yeah.

He just texted me right now. That's what I'm talking about. I like that idea. We've been communicating. But okay, here's the question about Hawk. What, we've been communicating. There it is, Gumbie. Why are you talking to a shooter?

What's going on with him? Did he beat that shit? Yeah, he was on here with G-Face. I helped him a little bit. I helped him. You know, them charges he had ain't the serious. What? It was Robin T. Grizzly's crib?

That ain't one of his charges. Charity, remember he had to shoot. He shot somebody, yeah. Is he going to beat him? He's going to be all right. For real? You're going to be all right. I knew both parties.

He's actually getting out. He's going to be all right. Shooter ain't going to get that time. I think somebody, like, message me at some point. Somebody from his team messaged me at some point, and I forgot to respond. I'm pretty sure. I'll be forgetting, you know. Now, you know, the crazy part, people will be wondering, right, Adam?

Shooter from Avalon. Adam, let me ask you something. Maybe you can answer this for the people. Yeah. People always say, how does whack know all this information about so many individual people? How do I know, Adam? Because you sit on the phone all day?

No, how do I know? How do I get the information? People just... They bring... Bro, they fucking give it to... Shooters right now, I guarantee you. If I open that up, he's sending me some information. Really?

Watch. You see, I haven't opened it up. I'm opening it up. I guarantee you his little ass is sending me some... Shooter. Look. What are he saying? He said it's the same paperwork from 2019.

Bro! Case close. Look, you've seen it was a blue dot And people be wondering How does whack people I had a dude called me this morning I recorded this punk ass I want you to hear it

Trying to give me some information On the motherfucker I ain't never heard of in my life I'll say it was But yeah, did you see this? What's that? So, okay, I don't know How do I make it? Oh, okay, there we go

So basically I'm looking at For Extra's Instagram story yesterday And I see this And it's a repost of what somebody else posted, but it's basically a clip of 4 Extra talking about the fact that he doesn't drink and smoke. And the person who reposted this clip, Gucci Blue 40, said, why no Jumber never showed this side of 4XRAs only the parts that make him look like an animal?

And so 4 extra reposted this. He's always said he never drinking smoke. And what I was what I'm saying. I mean, I feel like I personally had that conversation with him like three, four times on here. Now I got to defend you. That's crazy. Now I've got to defend you. Look, four extras, ain't no script.

We get a few bullet points if we want to talk about that shit. A lot of times we start talking and we, out of 20 of them, we might hit three or four. Four extras set here and dictated who he was and how he wanted to be seen on camera. Right. Nobody met with bro and was like, hey, we need you to go in there and go crazy. Because I don't even think you knew he was going to go as crazy as he went. For sure. I mean, I told him plenty of.

times like i you know i tried to get him to talk about all kinds of beef drama and he wouldn't talk about it now not smoking and not drinking he talked about that all the time if anything to me it was kind of like okay do we seriously need to keep talking about this because this is kind of boring we already get it you don't drink you don't smoke you know it's like at a certain point we were we were trying to offer money like would you take this amount of money to get fucked up not that we actually wanted them to i very much think it's a great thing that he's sober but when I saw him reposting this that really made me feel like oh okay so when we do hear from four extra again what was this this was I think yesterday it was like yesterday morning but either way it made me

realize Cam Capone gave me maybe no the actual interview there's an old interview that first you did but my my thing is like now when we hear from four extra is he going to be doing the gimmick act of acting like oh no jumper made me talk about feeds he can't do that I didn't want to talk about fades he would never do care about fighting fighting is bad no jumper made me talk about all I wanted to talk about about smoking and drinking for him to do that me talk about fades for him to do that mean he was a gimmick and I don't think he's a gimmick but by him reposting this instagram post no jumper was trying to make you look like an animal man not not not

this interview this part no no no if if if four extra had had his way we would have been talking about not drinking and smoking we would not have been talking about fades this is what this is saying to me you didn't know about his phase to even lead the conversation you would have to he would have to he made his name off fades let's be real i mean much like Aaron the plumber who is now homeless i mean probably you know he's like not doing that good for himself it would appear Aaron the plumber down bad man by his name is john vanished nobody knows what he's doing he is off the map nobody cares at all you look at his youtube his views are in the absolute shit can well i think he's like uh focused on boxing

i don't think so i think he's focused on just being a jack no because it well i don't know if he's tied i can call and check because i know the owners the company the company was tying itself to uh-huh of like misfits d a zm whatever is right i know the owners over there um but then they do want your popularity to be up because that's what drives their ticket sales or they pay for review. His popularity is about as low as it could possibly get. Aaron the plumber and, you know,

King pill, same deal, bro. Gimmicks, hold on. King pill. Wait, hold on. You told me I was full of shit. It's over. I told you, and I get what you do, if the gimmick, it got a spark for 70 days,

throw some gas on it. You would take 55 of them. You don't give a damn if they phase out. But me and you both know, the gimmick shit at the table doesn't last long because you got to keep coming up with the gimmick. One thing about Brick's laugh

was his laugh. You're right? That was him. He didn't even think of it. He didn't have to think about doing that, but that was part of his character and personality that made people want to watch. Brick was a good consistent source of content

and presumably he will be back at some point. But is because, he actually has an interesting, whimsical, funny, intelligent perspective on street shit. So somebody gets shot, there's some kind of drama, there's some story to talk about. A lot of people just have the most basic bare bones opinions and they'll just say, you know, you know, just like uninteresting things. Brick to me was always the one person who would say something that was more like what the most gangster dude you know would say off camera that would never say it on camera.

And Brick would say there and say the thing that is like, it sounds horrible. It sounds fucked up. But it's actually true. It's actually how things go in that world. Aaron the plumber, on the other hand, is just a yoked fucking dumb dumb,

who has nothing to offer. He's just got muscles. He's talking about fades. Besides that, as soon as that wears off, okay, we don't care. At least four extra kind of like got the heart of gold. I thought people fuck with four extra more as a person.

You know, you know the dude that was on his case, keeps texting me. He has his ID, the die on the case. He said, remember I told you I had to go get his, he had to get his ID to fly. He didn't want to come out. But I said, let's get him out there, man. We got a fucking finish him on the plumber off.

He's in Oklahoma, that case. Let's do it. Well, you heard it, bro. What's your beef with Anne Hefe? I asked Anne Hefe about it yesterday on the show. He wouldn't talk about it, but I heard he made a video about it. You guys were getting into it. Somebody told me it was a, I ain't seen it.

Yeah, I didn't see it either. I heard you were mad at him. were getting into it. No, I don't know. I didn't, you know, listen, Adam, me and you text back and forth, right? That don't necessarily mean I'm going to YouTube.

You ever seen me go to YouTube? Uh-huh. So I don't know. Did he go to YouTube and say something? I don't know. It would be news to me. We didn't touch back and forth several times on different things. I may not agree with it.

He made out of agree with, but shit, I, he mad? He didn't seem mad when we were on the podcast together. I don't know. Maybe he used me as some clickbait. I should have watched it so I could fill you in on all this. If you got some used shit, I don't know. You know, I expressed, you know, my thing like this, if I see something, if I don't fuck with you, right, I won't say nothing.

And me not saying that and triggers the plot, right? But if I fuck with you, I'm going to tell you. And then we have our conversation about it and then I'm done with it. Okay. That's it. So I don't know. I don't know. I ain't, I'm not going, I haven't read no content on that half.

Hey. No, okay. I've got to look into it a little bit more. How do you feel, do you see the video of Keesot's father snitching on him? Yeah, but he's been cooperating. He's telling you why he's telling. I'm taking it at, I think when Keesaw was on the street, maybe he didn't look out for him or something. He said he's sick.

He got two, three kids out there, and the DA or the defense attorney brought it up, that he's been cooperating. Well, because the whole thing about it is that the excuse that he used to snitch on his son was what kind of son is going to let his dad rot away in jail and not tell them that the father had nothing to do with it. The thing is that you can't say the father had nothing to do with it when your whole argument is that you did not do it and that there's nothing that there was no getaway driver because I didn't do it. so his dad is like really like just straight up snitching on his son but trying to use this bullshit excuse of you should have told them that I didn't have anything to do it even though anybody who thinks about it for five seconds is like well he can't clear you if he wasn't there so what his dad like basically maybe could have beat this charge if he had been willing to what like

sit in jail for a couple years waiting for trial but it wouldn't have mattered anyway because the fucking getaway driver is also testes. Well, at the end of the day, bro, I had this conversation this morning. I was talking to creep about this. He was telling me that, uh, one of the dudes you do business with. What's the dude got to merch with all the drug dealers and shit on it? Oh, a solid, you know, yeah, I guess they was pressing him. Really?

Oh, here, right? Pressing Milo. Certain neighborhood that we all familiar with was pressing. So I guess he's in New York now, and I think your other guy is down in Houston. dub right yeah so well they both have separate stories but they're still out here as well yeah but they're like cross-promoting each other shit i guess the schools like they did um your man and said they did on letting the mirt the attire in the schools but i'm telling people right now bro this is real shit the civilians the non-street gang members bro they're not telling y'all but they are

turning y'all in. There's no repercussions no more about when somebody's snitching, right? Even if they're on the paperwork, nobody cares. It's just content. So everybody better start adjusting to being a normal regular citizen

because when these people start this movement, we got our own big homies, the feds, and the LAP and whatever the police departments are, all y'all in trouble. I mean, you got to give it to Keso because he really

lived being the definition of a real deal, drill rapper, killer. Like, whatever King Vaughn's talking about all these songs,

whatever blowdown little Jeff talking about these songs, Koso was living that life. He was really going and mowing down his ops in public, people who were making songs about it, and then he made songs about, these killings made an album cover that had pictures of all these people that him and his gang had killed. And then he got arrested for it and he's probably going to do life for it.

And what do you have to say about that? I mean, hey, he's the real deal. He was living up to it. That's what I got to say about. I don't know it. You dumb as a motherfucker. Well, okay, that is included. That's included in what I said.

Nobody knows. You was going to pump it like, hey, this is the way to go. I'm not pumping it up. I'm just laughing at him. Another one of you ninjas need to go do the same shit. I'm laughing at him is ignorance and stupid. right they ain't nothing to laugh about

I don't encourage anyone to go kill their ops in broad daylight I encourage a much more sneaky approach you're telling me he did all these things and then put this shit on an album cover and talked about it in the songs almost no attempt to hide it in any way that's why

I have to laugh at him and I can't look at it like the way that even someone like King Vaughn was doing a reasonable job of obscuring the murders that he had committed you know I got a respect that at least a little bit. But if you're going to go out and kill people and then just like put on a show for the cops in this little ass area and just brag about it, I can't do anything but laugh when

you end up getting convicted. I'm not mad about you laughing. Okay. Because it's dummy shit. I do not encourage this. Yeah, there we go. Let's let's, let's, because see, my whole mission, I don't know if you've been keeping up. I've been exposing a lot of like OG street dudes.

Yeah, who's this old, uh, crypt dude that you expose? He's a rat. We got his work. I heard that was a big one, though. He was, like, pretty respected before us. Yeah, but it don't matter. What's the same? He's from Compton, right?

But here goes the thing, right? A lot of our youngsters, and you've seen this, when you was in the BMX world, I'm pretty sure it was riders before you that they talked about. People idolize you like, yo, I want to be like him or better than him. I want a better bike than him. I want to do better tricks.

I want to do more extreme tricks, right? That's my thing. I'm not exposing people because I got. be with you. I'm exposing you because you're out here in front of these kids like who you are, what you stand for, your persona and what you represent, right, is the way to go.

And the whole time, 20 plus years ago, on paper, from what we know, what we read, you went bad. Use a motherfucking rat. So here it is. These kids are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're telling people what they can and can't do, but you already did it.

And what we did is we dug deep into his stuff to a point to where I set him up. We let a little bit go. And I knew he thought the little bit, we let go was all we had. And then he was like he started saying what it was and what it wasn't. And then 600 and another one of our exposers went down to the federal building,

filmed itself, going on his, his name, his number, printing the paperwork. What a lot of people didn't know is the day before the arrest of him and the other people, he was already arrested and wrote a declaration agreeing to cooperate and said why he would cooperate because of his child. Or let me tell you what's even more spookier. September 5th is the day he agreed to cooperate when he got arrested. He got kids, Adam, because of his child. September 6th, and I didn't got calls from a couple of his crimeies, they had no idea they had already apprehended him September 5th. And he agreed to cooperate.

The declaration was the missing piece of the puzzle. Let me tell you what's crazy. 22 years later, on the same day, I don't know what this is, was the demise of his child. Oh, shit. Wait, so you're saying he... September 5th, 2001, he got arrested with his child in the car. His child was the reason he agreed to cooperate, per the declaration, signed by,

I am, September 20, September 5th, 2023. Now, I don't know, because there's a lot of people on that RICO or on that indictment that don't look like us and don't speak English. They tend to send messages. It's just ironic, 22 years later, on the same date, September 5th, something happened to his child. That is crazy. But you're out here. You want to spread the word? Oh, no, anybody.

Any of y'all look, bro, any of y'all, you heard Freeway Rick, I did it to Rick. Like, bro, look, I don't respect nothing that you did. But so, are you, does Freeway Ricky have the image of a snitch now from the? He's a rat. Yeah, we exposed him. He told me to go get it. I went and got him. What would he say?

In response to that. I got the paperwork. I don't give a damn what he said. We got to work. But I feel like he's not out here. Like, if you were to interview him and say, like, so you told. He's not going to go along with that. It don't matter.

The paperwork says you ain't got to go along with nothing. The paperwork is going to say you told. And that's it. Now, what we do have is we got a lot of the older dudes who, like, they see it. And we're realizing that a lot of the older dudes in this situation with this one last dude is making us go pull up paperwork on a few more. Because the ones that act like they don't see what we're reading, usually it's because they told to. but I mean that's our thing bro like you know like just lay low

but if we see you out here perpetrating and influencing these kids and we dig and look into you and see you went bad your ass gonna get it and people seem to be interested in that clip that shit did like over 50,000 crazy there's me in the living room chilling

I don't know who the dude is I gotta get familiar should I interview him I didn't do what you want and he want to put some more light on him. He, boy, because we got some more over here. You know, we got to, any time you file paperwork to seal your file, nobody from the streets is supposed to be filing paperwork to seal their file on the situation. You're not supposed to do that.

Let me speak to the audience out there just because I know there's some people that might watch the Adam and Wax show that don't watch the Tuesday show that don't watch the news. We have something going on on. August 9th where we are finding the next great no jumper host. If you want the information, go to my Instagram, Adam 22. Scroll down a little bit. You'll see the flyer for it. But on the 9th, we are going to be having 30, 40, 50, I'm not sure exactly,

different aspiring no jumper hosts in this building. And throughout the day, an all-day live stream. I thought you were doing it somewhere else. No, we are doing it here. And throughout the course of the day, we will be. systematically eliminating the different contestants until we find the next great no jumper host and then we will be giving them a contract

so that they can continue to do content on the jumper for six months. So you're doing a, man, you should have like created a goddamn Twitch account. No jumper Twitch. You should have did that shit on Twitch, but it's going to go up.

I mean, we're live streaming it on YouTube and potentially kick as well. So fuck Twitch. Twitch. You definitely, yeah, yeah, yeah. It definitely going to go up. You doing it for like 12 hours? That's the idea. I was thinking about making it a multi-day stream where we're going to have a whole sleep stream and everything.

I think you should do it like 8-8-to-8, bro. 8-8. I think we'll start at 10 and we're going to go however long we need. I'm going to try to get it done by midnight. I'm going to tell you why. You can't, bro. Bin-night, bro. Listen.

Bin Laden. No, listen, bro. Eight to eight, I'm going to tell you why. Those people that are serious going to get their ass up. You want to see that. You want to see that. who see who see why not do 10 instead of 8 10 people are online more people don't really

want to wake up at 8 to watch a live because it would no they'll wake up for that because some would but because where we at bro yeah no bro listen your ass going to be live um you got a few obstacles and I'm I'm curious to see how it's going to go but this shit gets dark

this shit get dark over here bro we have 10 o'clock 12 o'clock man listen what's going to be dark this whole area gets spooky over here bro the sun is out by 10 o'clock and that night mom i'm fucked them 10 a m i'm cool with that that's why i'm saying 8 to 8 because 8 is just you think just being out here in the valley you better have a bunch of randoms bro like really the people would be systematically eliminated throughout the day and our security team is going to be ushering them to their vehicles and whatnot do you think people just going to leave

you don't think you're going to develop a crowd we're going to block off the whole parking lot so that there can't be any parking lot pimping, if you will, and that we don't have just like a parking lot full of goons frattingizing with each other. And one of the rules is that you can't bring anybody with you. Everybody's going to be searched. So no guns will be driving here. If you do that, if you do that, actually, I'm going to be real. I would Uber restrict them. You can't even drive. We thought about that. But the thing is- But the parking is chill on the weekends. There's like barely any cars out here. Now that them coming by their cell might work.

But if you don't, you're going to look up, bro. Listen, you're talking about you'll get a thousand people coming through here. Well, it's not like we're giving out the address. It's so you have to get approved in order to be allowed to come. Yeah, but once you give them the address, it's gone. Everybody out there, please. Do not think that anything is going to happen. You are not going to be in danger physically.

We are going to take care of you. Please don't listen to him. He's scary. I don't give a fuck. I'm just telling you about them because these people do not follow simple instructions. Oh, they will when Big 22 is the one doling them out. And we've got our whole security team running the block. Who's your security team?

Don't worry about it. Which, by the way, can we talk about what happened to your security over the weekend? What? Nothing happened to my people? No, the pit bull, dude. Oh, just the other day. What happened? You met Pit bull.

Yeah, you got a photo with me. I met him at the Blueface show. And here as well, yeah, yeah. Remember when Captain Tazari I was here, he came. What happened? Motorcycle accident, man. See, that's what I sound. I was looking at his story after it happened.

I want to beat his ass right now. Really? I really want to fucking wake him up and warp his ass because usually listens to me. And one of the reasons I kind of eased up of, like, nagging him about it. Because the motorcycle club he joined, I know the. president real good. Well, you know of him. Greg DeBarber. The one knocked sugar out. Okay. Greg DeBarber. And we're

real close. And I told him like, bro, like, because I understand the motorcycle set. I used to be on it. And it's like, I'm like, bro, he got a temper and his ass to go and he's very protective of his people. So kind of stay in the middle of that. That's kind of what I was worried about because Pitbull never believed in carrying firearms. He's so good with his hands. If he get up on you, you're going to think your ass.

That's what shot. And, you know, I feel like if you're in your 30s and you really didn't have experience riding bikes, I'm not going to go try to do the shit you know how to do on them BMXs. Right. Right. You shouldn't be on them. But I understood it. Like, you know, gave him something to do.

You know, pit bulls, N-O-I, FOI. You know, it was another group of brothers. And he was part of a good squad, a good team. but I just, I didn't, I wasn't comfortable with him. And it's not even about him as to drunk drivers. It's to other people doing shit. And all that comes with experience. It comes with experience of knowing what to do.

It's only two type of riders. Those have been down, those are going down. I didn't bend down. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't get all the dumb shit ride my hog doing 160, 170 miles per hour. And, you know, and I ain't got no fair than nothing. I got a motherfucking, I ain't got nothing. just me, right? I got a huge, a big-ass motor on my bike, but they said a female did a U-turn

and ran into him, which leads me to believe either he was flying or he just wasn't paying attention. Yo, when I was 16, I had two of my favorite BMX riders die back-to-back, Joe Ticcio, rest of peace, he died right before 9-11, and then this dude Adam Armstrong died probably by the time I was 18. He was another dude from New York. And I was a massive fan of them. And I remember at this young age saying, even at like 16 or 17, I said, I'm never riding a motorcycle because that shit is just so dangerous. I already knew mad people who had died from it.

And every year that goes by, I get more and more confident in that decision because I've just known so many great people who died on motorcycles over the years. And I understand how much people love it. I'm sure it's fucking insanely fun. I look at people who do it. And I, you know, sometimes kind of want to have that feeling with the wind in your fucking hair. But, man, I'm just, yeah. I don't think you understand.

You know, Pet Bull is just on the show. Yeah. We just called him. Oh, what was the call? About Young Magnificent. And he's the one brought him, not Gumby. Right. That was Pit Bull.

We used to talk about him all the time. But that's my daughter's personal security. Yeah, right, right. Now, here's the thing about that. Pit Bull originally from Harlem 30s Crip. Okay.

You know, he crossed over to N.O.I. F.O.I. Nation Islam, food Islam. You know, he had rank. Food of Islam is the security side of N.O.I. They do security. Pitbull's work with,

just was with Kanye, Rihanna, detail. He lived with detail pretty much. Ray J. Brandi. He didn't did security work. So for me to trust him with my daughter.

And he's with her. What I'm not with her. her. I'm talking about this. She's been like 14, right? That tells you something about his character, because everything about him says, whack, he comes from cripping. You ain't supposed to and all that. But it just who pit bull was as a man as an individual, he defined himself as trustworthy, extremely loyal, cool as hell, humble giant, unless you were a threat to him or his people. And it's just like, it hit me but it hasn't hit me

because I don't want to believe it nephew was 36 37 years old you know what I'm saying and I see he was trying to make his way he got his top rocker you know you got a ride get your top rocker bottom rocker in your actual patch

only thing I can tell myself is shit maybe it's an honor to go early maybe we're the ones in hell you know what I lost in the physical I gained in the spirit Um, brother Greg,

Greg reacts as the nation of Islam, fruit of Islam knows him. You know, pit bull and, Pit bull was one of the ones that started to hunt inside with me. Mm. You know what I'm saying? He got an original room over there, Good Burger, you know, so, you know, we got hundreds and hundreds of hours

of clips of his voice and him getting into it with people. That's one of my, that's my birthday party, I believe, right there. Yeah, right. Yeah, you know, he's always, very close to me, the family, and to everybody. You know what I'm saying? So, but yeah, man, but I got that call like one in the more. I thought it was a prank call.

I hung up on them. The number kept calling and they text me and it was his baby's mother, Jasmine. And, yeah, man, it was like, man. Nah, super sad, man. Yeah, I didn't get to hang out of them that much, but just being around him. He was cool as fun. Hell, yeah, it was super solid. Yeah, cool, man.

So rest of peace, brother Greg reacts to the nation, uh, baby crazy old to the Harlem's. Uh-huh. You know what I mean? And shit, you know, gone but not for God, man. So, wait, is this real? And yeah, rest of peace, but YBN, Namir response to Los Angeles boxer, Christopher Lovejoy seemingly snatching his chain?

No, what happened was some other people did what they did. They took, not mere shit. Yeah, yeah. Or what, one of his guys possibly? Because there's a lot of YBN chain. I think they took, they might have got him. They crawled 600. I think it 600 could get in the middle of getting the chain back to him.

Okay. And so 600 went and posted it. Hey, they got your chain over here. Boom, boom, boom. This was like maybe a couple years ago, 18 months, two years ago. Oh, okay. And I guess they, he ain't snatched it. Sixth hundred ain't snashing nobody chain.

He was just trying to get it back to him. But I think they thought he was trying to sell it back to him. And I think when he went over there, he's like, yo, I think it's a better thing for y'all just to give it back to him, especially if y'all trying to get in this music game, maybe y'all can kind of come together because the dudes 600 met wasn't the ones that actually did to snatch him. You know, that shit gets going down the line. And they're like, well, who do we got that kid middleman this? And 600 took his ass over there.

I told him don't do it no more because they can, you know, they could hit you with some of that shit like two years ago. 600 insnacht. We got to help bring Nautamir back to his prior level of celebrity. So like people, people have counted them out. We need, we need them back. I feel like his music pretty good.

These dudes get two summers. You know what I'm saying? They get two summers. Just rappers in general get two summers. Nowadays, they get two summers if they're lucky and you out of there. If you don't, if you don't reinvent yourself to be doing something different,

whether it's television, whether it's your touring, brother it's your merch, you know what I'm saying? You get two summers and your ass is out of there. Yeah, more often than not. You get what I'm saying? If you,

once you hit three summers, then you definitely are starting to look like a OG in this shit. Like, even people who, like, realistically, like, are not giving old head at all. Still, once they made it two,

three years, you're trying to look at them like, damn, you beat the odds. Apparently you got some, because everybody else is just a meme, where it's like, we like him, we're interested in them.

I see it so hard. where I'll interview somebody or they put out their first couple of music videos. They get tons of views. The interview does super good. And then like the lefty gunplay thing. We interview him. We get a million views. His views are doing good on his YouTube and everything.

And then it doesn't take long before it kind of wears off. Unless there's something that's holding people on for a longer. Somebody put up a goddamn freestyle of him rhyming over a Gizi, a young GZ beat. And people in the chat, I don't know, maybe they talk about fire. This dude is hot garbage. But I think his run is going to be his character and personality. The rapper shit, I don't think that's going to do it. That has got him to where he's at.

I think he needs a crossover and the television. Bro, I think he'll be funny as hell sitting in a podcast seat interviewing. somebody. Lefty interviewing somebody his way, his antics how he talks, people will watch that crazy shit. Okay, you're describing the career switchup that we've seen many times over, but it's usually like a rapper who has a long sustained career like a fat Joe and a Jada kiss where they're able to actually leverage their fame and the fact that people love them with lefty. I mean, that's a lot less of a sure thing. Also, like, you're talking about with Fat Joe and Jada because you're like, We can't do it.

Two people with clear minds, adults, grown up. I don't think lefty's in that position. Joe and Jay the kids would lefty. That's a disrespect. Both of them, my friends, don't do that. Plus, I got to go to Miami tonight. Don't do that, bro. Okay.

Joe, my apology. Jay, my apology. I'm saying that he's not on their level in terms of being beloved. No, I think he could grow. He will be a bigger personality. off the rapping microphone. If you can get this dude just to read 10 things, hey, yo man, so fucking hog,

yo, what the fuck's up with you and comfy? No, people go watch this crazy shit. Okay, would you rather watch him do that than listen to them horrible-ass rhymes? Oh, for sure, yeah. But, I mean, that's what I'm saying, bro. That much is evident by the fact that his interviews do better than his music. Okay, that's all of them.

I'm saying that. Even though the interviews don't do that. At some point in time, Adam, you know, you got to know when to hold him, no one to fold them. I watch you clear the building one time. Uh-huh. You just cleared the building. I said, bro, what the fuck? He said, hey, I looked at it.

financially, it didn't make sense. You got to know one to hold them and knowing the phone. When you cleared the building and you reset, it's more different people than the building, right? So what I'm saying with him, at some point, he has to understand. Like, bro, what did the last album do? The one week track did, like, 500. He did better than Jim Jones, though. He did like 800 on the second one.

He did better than Jim Joe. At some point, he has to say, okay, what's working for me? Like, bro, I don't give a damn. I can see cooking with lefty. People will watch this crazy shit. Just let him be him. He's trying too hard trying to rap because he really can't rap, like respectfully. Yeah, I'm not bullish about his rapping.

Yeah, bro, I've seen this shit I'm like people putting fire I'm like, what the fuck do y'all mean? Fire. Lefty don't play. Lefty, lefty, yeah, lefty gun play. Lefty, I'm not on the right. Then lefty, when I fight, I hit you with the lefty.

Like, what the fuck? No, watch me whip. Watch me nay, nay. He does like a weird thing with his hands when he does it. And then he, but then his facial expressions, I'm like, yo, dude's a funny dude. But he just need to get in that length. bro, if that dude went and did a zoo segment, the lefty show, that shit's going to go.

It's possible. Yeah, but, okay, I want to ask you about this as possibly our last hobby. So, Hawk, he appeared on the pod with you. He's been on the news twice since then. I'm glad that happened because I told him if he behaved itself and were respectful. And I told him, I said, look, you come on there with some loose can and shit. Adam ain't going to fuck with you. You come on there and I said, it's a good chance.

Adam will let you come on to the... It's interesting because we're trying him out. Now, obviously, he's already got this animosity with Gumby, but apparently they've had some kind of behind-the-scenes conversation where they're not going to talk about each other anymore. But that started here, but that's out because I don't know what happened. I woke up this morning with text from Gumby. I'm like, what you're talking about?

The dude called me Big Bub or whatever to have. hell his name is. He called my phone, and it was crazy with him because he said, yo, whack, man, you got in Hoover business. I said, hey, bro, I helped squash the beef with him and Gumbie. And I cleared Gumbi's name. I didn't have to call that dude to clear Gumbi's name. I cleared Gumbi's name.

We kind of said I had hawk ass up in the scenarios and like, well, then you shouldn't be like that. That was why the whole episode was funny was because by the end of it, it kind of felt like you had pivoted from being totally on his side to kind of. being against you. Well, let me ask you something. Yeah. You think I would have got him at this table

if I had told him what I was going to do? No. You know me. If I'm on some bullshit, I'm going to stay on the side of bullshit. Okay. So I knew what I was trying to do. People could say what they want.

I put out a lot of fires. So I'm telling this dude, Bub, they bug. I cleared Gumby's name from the gay shit, and I got him and Hawk to agree to stop speaking on each other. And Hawk, you know, then I believe Hawk went on the,

uh, the, the, uh, the, the news. And he addressed it. again in a positive way, right? So Bob says, yeah, but as Hoover Benet's, I should have been the one to do that. I said, Bob, you couldn't do it. They don't respect you.

I said, Gumby texted me and said, you would do with a podcast with a washed up struggling podcast. Said, you got to understand. Hawk was able to come in here because in his head is something I can possibly do for him. He's rapping. He wants to podcast.

So guess what? I'm not from Hoover, but he would listen to me. So he listened and it worked I said you're not happy with the results He said I'm just not happy that it was you That didn't and it wasn't me I'm like what kind of crazy shit is that So it just had to be I don't give a fuck

Who made peace or who cleared something If you were able to get something done And I came amongst my people Salute so but I woke up this morning Gumby talking about your whack You made Hulk an exposure An exposure? I'm like what the fuck Are you talking about? No I didn't make it no

exposer? Like our exposure team He was false claimant exposers. No, he said that? No, but I'm just wondering. No, but then I looked up on Hawks page and he's exposing some shit.

Now, the things he's exposing, I've been had. But I shared him with Gumbi. I said, yo, Gumbi, y'all need to have a conversation about this. He got one of Gumbi's best friends in their interrogation room.

And they sent me like 30 clips and, you know, it don't look right to me. But Gumby seems to think it's something to it, but I'm like, bro, y'all need to have a conversation. If y'all both had a standstill about violating each other, Hawk feel a certain way about this,

have a conversation with him. And I think they told Hawk, don't laugh. They told Hawk, the interview you're looking at is AI. Wait, what? Yo, you want to see? What interview?

He was. watching an AI interview with who? Bro. They told Hawk that's AI, that ain't the homie. And I'm like, Gumbi, you can't tell him this shit,

bro. Bro, this is him. Bro, you can press that shit. Bro, I, there's 30 clips. That ain't no AI. You could put... So this is a clip

of somebody allegedly snitching? That's Gumbie's right hand, his best friend. Okay. And they're trying to say that this is... Not real. Yeah, but it's like 30 clips.

Did you hear what he said? No, it's hard to imagine somebody making an AI of this, but... Listen, did you hear what he said? No, I don't care what. Yeah, that dude said, what we talked about here is between me and you. You don't tell a detective. You know, street niggas get a hold of that shit, bro. Bro, this, bro, it's a gang of him.

So I'm like, so now, Hawk, guesting got mad, because I'm like, damn, what the hell? Why is Gumbie texting me? talk about I made Hawk an exposure because I'm telling Hawk like you know I'm a Hollet Gumbie and I sent all the clips to Gumpy like bro you know this is his issue

holl at him and I guess when when Cumbie told Hawk all that shit is AI that ain't real well okay so what I was going to say before you just went on a 10 minute ran was that now that Hawk is on the news a couple times and stuff it's like you got Trayway

coming out of the woodwork to say that Hawk is not official you got what's that fool's name trigger bird or whatever who was saying the same thing it just feels like we're seeing like an instantaneous reaction from a lot of hovers who are kind of having this opinion of them and I don't know it's it's just kind of like a weird decision to make

but we've seen it over and over that it's like if people become members of the no jumper team who are not well liked or appreciated in their community a lot of times even if we don't make But you see what Hawk released on Tradeway, right? Separated at some point. What? He released the footage of him in a man,

and the thing with a man cooking butt naked. Why do we think that that was with a man? But yeah, he was cooking naked. Well, I think right now what Hawk's about to do, and I don't know, I ain't talked to him, but I believe because I've seen him with damn homies. And they're talking about he's exposing the homosexual behavior that's going on with a lot of people in his neighborhood.

Well, because... I don't know. I just seen a clip. Yeah, Young Hawk says that the leader of the Hooters is a booty bandit. You know Gumbi don't like this kind of attention. Yeah, I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Young...

I didn't even hear it. So he was actually saying this to... I didn't hear it, bro. I got to hear this. Oh. Overline. And I ain't never seen no... I don't know the nigger.

You feel me? I don't know him. I just know they say he's like five, two. He's like 150 pounds. He's a little itty-bitty-dud. He caught life two weeks before going home. behind I mean,

skills my language to the LGBTQ community but he called life two weeks before coming home behind a homosexual so I mean, you know,

and that's what's funny about this politics and shit is that y'all can allow men to sit here and mess with a transsexual

in front of you you know and think that that's cool. This is way before the LGBT stuff came into effect. This is just the way

he was getting down in the way a lot of people was getting down. You feel me? A lot of people. You know, when people hear about it, like when certain shit get out, like, oh, he, just doing the booty band, this through the booty band and all. But what about these OG niggas that's outside, bro? That's still on that right now. You feel me?

That shit go on in there, and they out here doing that shit. You feel me? So it's just like, like these other niggas be knowing they be tying themselves in, too, not saying that that's going on everywhere, but I know you feel me in my section in prison the top dog man he deep with that homosexual stuff

that lady Wow I mean I have no idea who he's talking about but what a strange claim to just say Hey the leader of my gang is a homosexual I mean I don't know who it is You see I'm keeping the real I'm sitting at the gumpy I'm like

Look that's all this shit I'm like bro This is all this is coming from the movers. People be wondering how I get shit. You see what I'm saying? Right. Look. I'm sending it to him. As it's coming to me, I'm sending it to him like, bro, you need to get with your people because he's already that and other. But at the end of the day,

Trey Wade, what Hawke says, got some allegations. Now, I will tell people this. If it's just cooking with his pants off, who cares? What a man? What is he saying with a man? Maybe there was another man in the room? No, they're saying that somebody, another man was in the room. So they're not saying that he's gay or they did anything gay. They're just saying that he cooked food with another man while he was naked. They're saying that what he's saying, he was with another.

He spent the night with a man. He knows the man. Who knew that the Great Hoover Civil War would play out mostly with gay allegations? Well, I'm going to tell you. It doesn't have to be this way. No, no. See, and this is my whole thing is that people both from, within the Hoovers and outside of the

Hoover's basically told me early on when they found out that I was going to interview Gumby. They said, be careful. Because some of these people are not necessarily trying. And now I'm like, I don't want to be in the middle of the Hoover Civil War. I can't blame Hawk because, listen,

and I'm going to tell all y'all, it's a lot of neighborhoods out there, right? That day ain't in this circus. When you sit at one of these tables, you are now putting your neighborhood in the circus. Somebody from your set is going to be jealous or know something or don't like, and then here they come. Oh, he got that light.

I got this on him. I want the light. And here it comes. And I'm going to be real with you. Like, even without, even without my G homies, I got a handful that could holl at me, right? Saying something to me. I don't. you don't hear me

exposing or doing that type of shit with mine. I'm just not going to do it, right? If some of them I don't like, and I don't really care for, but when top is come up, I give credit where you know what credits do. My home boy, be crazy. I'm not going to say he ain't a G-homie from the set,

and he got some flaws that I can really talk about and exploit. But on the flip side, before those flaws, he wanted the dudes that kicked the doors open and put in a lot of work in them county jails and them penitentiaries for my neighborhood so I can walk through the door a little more comfortable, right? So, you know, I'll leave that where it's at, right? But this clout dang out of him, and I'm going to be real. I came front. You're the Goldie of podcasting right now.

There's a movie called to Mac. The main character is Goldie played by Max Jr. dudes is going to come through here and dance for a position. They're going to dance, bro. I mean, it ain't, it ain't nothing. You ask them to do. Can they throw it in a circle like T. Ross, son? On that note, we're going to check out, bro.

No, but you hear about smack having a thing going on with a trans person? I heard it, but I don't know what they're getting to. Like, I, I asked him. Basically, he was getting to the bussy. No, I asked, I asked, what you call it, what's what they're talking about? Because I, what's the dude, the fake shot in the leg, do exposed that, right? I think it was on his shoulder. We got fake shot on the lake.

Oh, Desjohn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dejohn exposed it, but I guess there's some legs to this, ironically. Well, what did Dejohn? What did he get it from? Dejohn is a friend of many members of the gay community, and he had somebody reach out to him and say, hey, who is this Smack guy?

He's been liking all of the Homegirl's photos, et cetera, coming up in her DM, he's trying to get some busy. Now, that's what Smack was saying. smack was telling T.Rill, he liked somebody's pictures, so does that make him? I don't think he denied liking him. Did Smack know that this dude was from the community? I think he knew and he was trying to get some anyway. So they got like DMs or something going on?

I think so. I haven't actually seen all the evidence, but I think this has been a great reveal. We're realizing the smack is a very freaky guy. Well, maybe he was trying to fix his voice. What? You think? What? Like, what do you mean?

Like with Ursula, she like steals your voice. Hey, bro, I just watched the new Jurassic Park. How is that? I want to watch the new have no more. It was great. They had to get one of the dinosaurs by water, by land and by air. They had to get this and it would cure people of certain things. The new Jurassic Park is great.

I would go see it the second time. And maybe he feels like something in him from them. That's a hymn. And he's like pacifying itself by something. saying this to her may fix him when it comes to an R's voice. That's interesting. I don't know, bro. But he did stand on it.

He said he liked the pictures, but he was telling T. Real, you like certain people's pictures. So, oh, Dejan. He said, you like Dejaun pictures and he's openly gay? Does that make you gay? Well, there's been a lot of rumors that T. Rell himself may have been involved in some bisexual activities over the years. Maybe he's trying to fix itself, too.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least. Do you think if they told T. he rail if he spent one night with a transgender he will have his arm back do you think he would do it yes for sure i don't even think he needs that kind of offer on the table no i don't think he real's openly gay i don't think he's opening guys shout out to my boy smack i'm very proud of you for coming out the closet and making love to a trans woman on plug talk coming next week shout out to whack 100 please drop a like and if they want to tune into the You filed that paper.

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