No Jumper - The Hotboii Interview: Orlando, Working with Kodak Black, Being Locked Up & More

Episode Date: September 23, 2021

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No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today we got one of the hottest up-and-coming artists out of Florida right now. My guy, hot boy, how you feeling? What's up? Feeling good, feeling good, feeling great. You just rolled up. Probably one of the biggest doinks I ever seen get rolled on this podcast. Yeah, I was trying to see. Not that you've seen in your life, though.

No, no, I've seen bigger ones. But they were all, like, ones that people rolled, like, to make a big blunt, like to make a scene. Like, oh, so we could take some photos. this huge blunt. Yeah. Now, I do this a lot, though, actually. But that's the backward? That's two backwards put together, or that's just one wood?

No, this is a grab a leaf. Oh, okay. What do you need the woods for then? I didn't need them. Oh, I gave him. You took at least one. Yeah, I did. What's the car?

Oh, you patched it up? Yeah, it was one little. Oh, shit. Okay. Respect. Yes. I respect the man who's serious about his blunts. Yeah, you got to make sure that I bit smoking.

That's one thing I noticed about you, like spending time on your social media and everything. I'm like, this man is always A, smoking a blunt, and B, hitting the liquor out the bottle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't even, no cup, me, no cup, me. Does that, like, become kind of a signature, or am I the first person who pointed that out that you always chugging liquor out the bottle? Nah, that's a signature thing. Okay. Like, even Money Bad Yo, when I did a video with me, like, he like, I heard you.

I heard Henny like water to you. I'm like, dang, how do you know that? Like, the way I'd be saying. Is Henny your preferred beverage? It used to be, though. But, like, lately I just realized, like, Hennessy is just like, it made my stomach hurt or something. Really? Yeah.

So I'd be like, I don't be. I switch to, like, what, Casamigos or from. That's the hot shit now, huh? People would be drinking tequila to get over their Hennessy addiction. Yeah. Nah, not really, because sometimes I still drink Hennessy. Like, I just like the taste, but I don't like the feeling like you when you wake up in the morning. Mm-hmm.

Do you think it tastes like a purple popsicle? Nah. It tastes like water. I know a rapper who said that, and I've been thinking about it ever since. Hennessee tastes like that? Like a purple popsicle. Shut out RXK nephew. He put me on to that.

What? And he tastes like a purple popsicle. I don't taste like that. What would you? You say it tastes like. It tastes like some vanilla type flavor to me. That's why it's so good. It tastes like vanilla or something.

Right. Do you remember your first time drinking as a kid? Yeah. I was like, I was like a shit. I didn't drink alcohol, though. It was like, you know, them little wine coolers or something like that. Oh, really? Yeah.

How old are you? I was like young. I ain't had nobody doing that shit. Yeah. I was young. Like, probably like, probably, I see like five or seven or something. Damn. Not the whole thing, just like a little bit.

Like my mom, she'll drink him. She'd, like, leave something. Like, leave it. Your mama, you hear it? Nah, she ain't know. Oh, she didn't notice. Nah, she didn't know. I got that memory of, like, my dad, like, let me taste a beer when I was a kid

and just being like, what the fuck are you thinking? This is nasty as hell. Nah, beer is nasty, though. You don't fuck with beer at all? Nah. Beer's got to be, like, the least popular liquid in rap music. Now, people, I really don't know nobody that drink that. People drinking a bit.

White people, for sure. Yeah. But I don't know. Like, you ever see rappers talk about drinking a beer? I don't see it. Nah. Beer nasty. Like, you know what really stood out to me when I was watching fucking the last dance

about Michael Jordan and shit? And they showed Michael Jordan, Scotty Pippen, all them just drinking beer backstage. I had a game. I thought that was like some sports shit. Like, after you win a championship or something? Yeah. No, I think they were just doing it. Like, they didn't want a championship.

shit or anything. They were just chilling, drinking beers, wearing suits, just wanting to enjoy a beer, which makes no sense to me. That's crazy. Nah, some people drink that, though. Yeah. But do you feel like you kind of, like, elevated and got money in your life, so now you got to drink expensive alcohol? Nah, Casamigo is cheap. Is it? Yeah. I figured it was expensive because I would see, like, people drinking it and showing it off. I think everybody drink that. Yeah, but I mean, really Hennessy is not that cheap, too. Nah, it's like 35 a bottle, like 32 or something.

it's like 35 a bottle like 32 or something right but compared to like plastic bottle vodka from the liquor store that shit is like kind of expensive yeah you get what you paid for though yeah i've drank like the worst vodka on the shelf it's fucking disgusting what's the worst vodka i don't know it's like got a name that you would never even remember because it's not meant to be remembered but that shit is fucking nasty my guy oh i stick my couple liquors i drink i don't know i feel like casamigos is a girl drink though like so females that's kind of good though right and patron too there's really no reason to drink besides to impress girls right nah I don't would think about females when I drink see me I'm like I ain't no alcoholic but like I drink alcohol like and then have me feeling like good sometimes right every time maybe just like I'd be like I don't know like I get like probably like maybe like more alert and stuff even though I do be alert but it's just like sometimes you make me feel good

Yeah, you feel me, just be wild. So you're not alcoholic, but would you say that you're addicted to weed? No, I ain't addicted to nothing. Really? When's the last time you went, like, more than a day, or even a day without smoking weed, though? I always do that. You do? You take time off? Yeah, especially from drinking, too.

I slow down. Really? Really from drinking. But wheat, as long as I went, probably like a whole week. I ain't buy no weed. Stayed in the house all day. I mean, that whole week stayed in the house just so I wouldn't, like, I didn't have to leave for nothing.

Like, I made, my mom was cooking and stuff. I eat some noodles, pack noodles, something like that, stay in the house all day, and vibe it, writing, stuff like that. I had a studio at the house. See, anytime I'm stuck in the crib, that's the number one thing I want to do is smoke weed. As long as your surroundings are going to be familiar, you've got to make sure that your brain has some titillation, you know? but when I had COVID, I didn't smoke for a whole week.

What? Because I was just fucked up. I was just like laying around in bed. Just not really like, I had no motivation to do anything. The last thing I wanted to do was like do something that, like, I felt like my throat was in danger. Like if I smoked, like something bad was going to happen. Nah. I think, I think I had coronavirus.

You did? I don't know. I look at people who got it and didn't have bad symptoms. And I'm kind of like in awe of them because I had it. I was already vaccinated. and I got it and it wasn't that bad, but it still was pretty fucking bad. So you was already vaccinated?

Yeah. So that won't work. It works. It just made the symptoms a lot less. Because like my girl got it right when I got it too, but her symptoms were like infinitely worse. Yeah. She was fucking,

she lost a sense of taste for hell along and all right. Yeah, that's what happened to me. Like I lost my taste, my smell. And like every weed, every weed tasted the same. Every weed smelled the same. Really?

Yeah, it got to the point. I'm like, dang, bro. Everybody got the same. That's a nightmare. Doing it wall. It's like, damn. Yeah, switch it up. Yeah, that's all crazy.

Tell me about your young days of growing up in Orlando. You know, I grew up in New Hampshire, and so we would always drive down to Orlando to go on vacation and stuff. Meanwhile, hot boys out here growing up in Orlando. Just doing shit. Wow, what time I was. I was probably, I know. Yeah. Realistically, when I was going there, you were probably, like, still inside your parents' bodies.

I thought you was talking about recently. But not growing up, growing up in the other, what's the question? Just tell me a little bit about growing up in Orlando, man. You've seen a version of it that I definitely ain't seen. Yeah. Like, it's like typical air, like, you know, like other places. Like, my mom, single parent and stuff like that. Like, the basics.

Same thing. Stayed in the hood. I ain't have it. that like stuff like that but people think that Orlando's like this super nice place right because it Disney and all that shit yeah but now that just show that they ain't been really been nowhere and they ain't really go nowhere right they probably just went to the little tourist side because you know we got every like every every every city got like a little tourist side so it's like a little tourist side this is a little bit more well-known yeah because people go over there for for to half one yeah anytime

anybody gonna come to though they're not going to come to just buy They come to Halfland and all the fun stuff over there. Right. Like all the stuff to do, the water parks and all that. It's like a party city too, right? There's like hell of clubs and bars and shit. Yeah. You ever really get to interact with most of that?

Or is that not really a good thing? Nah, I ain't really my thing. I don't be clevering like that. Really? Even before I was a rapper. Not even now? I feel like you'd be able to A, get paid to pull up, and B, get treated like a fucking king.

Why wouldn't you want to be, in that situation. I feel like it's better stuff to do than going to the club. It's great to go to the club sometimes, though. But not like, like you say, it's a party sitting. And I don't be trying to just party 24 times. Right. Makes sense.

So what kind of kid were you growing up? I was always outside. Yeah? I always wanted to go do stuff with my friends and stuff. Just always outside, come home late. My mom used to be snapping him. I was an outside kid. Adventious too.

I was trying to see new stuff, like, I was just outside kid. Did you think, like, I feel like to be a rapper, you have to really kind of, like, believe that you're special and that you have something to offer to the world that they're not already getting? Did you have any of that confidence when you were a young man, like you felt like you were special, or did it take you a long time to figure that out?

I ain't know like, like, like, okay. Like, okay, that's kind of like, oh, I question. That's because I ain't start rapping when I first, well, I ain't start, I wasn't putting out music when I first started rapping. So it's like, I've been writing stuff or like playing around with it, but it's like, I knew,

because people would tell me, but it was like, I ain't start rapping yet until like years later. So it's like, I know I don't do this, but I want to be sure, like I want to be, I'm gonna perfect my craft in it first. Because people tell me the whole time, like, oh, why you ain't dropping this?

Why ain't you doing it? But it's that I'm perfecting my craft until I feel like, okay, boom. Now I got something to offer different. At first it was just like, okay, I want to just stand out. Like I want to be working towards that. Working towards. Yeah. I mean, you seem like the kind of person

that might have had like the personality where people thought that you had like the the personality to be a rapper even before the music was like fully formed is that true mm-hmm i knew that too though i knew that too is it like i don't know probably like a personality didn't thing right but so you were when would you say that you actually started like working on rapping if you didn't want to like come out right away which i agree is like a mistake that a lot of people make is that a lot of people make is that a lot of people realistically they should probably make music for like five years and then put a song out and instead they make one song put it out immediately and the shit is garbage and yes you know with me though it was like i was so young though i started like probably playing around playing around with this rap stuff like the age of seven so it's like of course i wasn't

consistent at age of seven but i started getting consistent with it like around i see like 12 and stuff. It was like around the time like we was like homeless type shit. So it's like I used to just be writing all day like or like this is how I used to do an I was a jay. I like okay boom let's say I got this song that I like right it ain't gonna be no big artist though it's gonna be like somebody front of so boom I go find they beat boom they did it on then I like use day flow kinda but like switch it up like learn how to like play with it like type shit play with it is like music wise, not what they flow, but learn how to play just like with music

and beats and different shit like that. That's how he's doing. Well, I think that makes a lot of sense because, like, in reality, when you're first starting, it's not, like, important that you be, like, super creative yet. It's just important that you be able to, you know, rap on beat, do various flows, be able to hold it down, you know? And so it's like, if you can, like, perform somebody else's a song

and then start taking it and twisting the flow a little bit and changing little things and stuff, then that could actually give you like a good blueprint to start from. I think you're right. Yeah, that's how I did it, though. I wasn't ready to release music anyway. Were you whaling as a young kid, you know?

We definitely read about hot boy being out there as an adult. Were you whiling out as a young kid? Nah. I was just always me, you know. Vibed Gass But now

I was just Vobbing as a jit You know Everybody get into a little trouble That's a shit Like what Because you got locked up Pretty young too, right?

No, I was like Still pretty young Yeah But you got locked up for how long I was in that for two years I was in the program And what was that arrest for? My arrest?

Yeah VOP Huh? A VOP What's that? Violation and probation. Okay, what were you on probation for in the first place? Oh, I don't even know.

I can't remember. You smoked too much weed. Nah, I wouldn't even talk like that though. That's too crazy? No, it's because I got, you know, I got less stuff going on. So I won't even get him like nothing. Are you stressed right now? No.

Don't really. Because I mean, you read about shit with you in the news and shit or like watching YouTube videos and sometimes it makes it sound like, oh, hot boys is in some crazy-ass situation, but are you walking around feeling like you got all the stress? like you got all the stress on your shoulders. Nah, you ain't supposed to feel like that anyway, though. Yeah.

Even if you're supposed to show it anyways. Well, there's so many rappers that I know who have that unlock where they'll have a crazy-ass case or such and such hanging over their head, and they are just out here having a good time and not really acting like they're worried about it. I'm the opposite of that. If I knew I had to go to court for some shit, I'm going to be fucking pins and needles. I'm going to be nervous as fuck thinking about it. I don't be nervous, though.

You can't live like that? Like what? Just being on edge, worried about the future? Nah, because I feel like it'll start the rub off. People that I'm around. Start the rub off, like, it just be like a vibe, energy thing type of shit. Yeah. You know how they say, stay around people with bad energy.

Like, it'll rub off them. So they'd be like, then it's too much stuff going on to where, like, people need me so I can't be like, if I be worried out there, it's going to be like, okay, then I'm going to end up being sure. grass, then I'm gonna be aggravated. They said somebody calling me by son and daughter. I'm just be aggravated. They need something, daughter.

Yeah, it's just be like, we just. Yeah, because you're in an interesting position where you have, like, a lot of people dependent on you at this point. Is that how you feel? Yeah. Not even just your family. You got all these people here right now

who are clearly, like, very invested in making sure that your career goes in the right direction? Yeah, I just, you know, you know how life goes. You're not in music. You know, it comes with it and stuff. Right.

how's that feel though does that make you make decisions differently like thinking about the fact that if you do some high head shit of course that it's not just going to bother you it's not just going to be you it's like oh there might be like

you know all these other people whose jobs fucked up all these other people they ain't getting money or ain't able to do their thing because you might have made a crazy decision at some point is that like a lot of pressure

yeah it ain't even about that though it's like okay it's just in this position that that I mean this not like no position I just you wake up and you feel me right it's like there's like this don't happen all the time so it's like you got you got you just got and you just can't get tricked out of what you got definitely okay so back to when you were younger you were you were fucking with rap you clearly had some potential then how do you actually

start taking it more serious or how do you take the next step like from when you were like real young like when did you first start to go viral or get any kind of popularity i never used to go viral until i started right now i never used to go viral and i was in arlando so it's like viral is not like viral no viral is like i feel like viral it got to be more than one city like involved just your city that's not viral that's local But now we're like looking at Florida, like, you know, there's all these new rappers coming up out of Florida. So we're used to looking at Florida now, like, oh,

this guy's popping out of Orlando, then he might be one of the next best, biggest rappers. Yeah, see, with Florida, you say, now you can't really get used to Florida because it's always gonna be like some different stuff coming in or like a different type of flow or different type of rap or a different type of look or something coming out of Florida. Right.

So it's like a mystery type shit, right? And we talk about it like as a little city, when a reality, it's one of the biggest states. There's a million different little cities full of different hoods and different people and different. Everything. You love it? Like when you think about Florida,

like, is there a part of you that feels like you can never leave? Leave is like, that's the wrong word to you. Like, leave me, like, slop. Like, leave you, like, now I'm gonna leave y'all. That's like shift or like live somewhere else. Yeah, yeah. Like, could you ever imagine? Because that was one thing that I was really surprised to realize when I was interviewing Ace and Fulio is like, oh, y'all both don't live there. Yeah.

You guys both got the fuck out of there. That makes a lot of sense, but, you know, I was kind of surprised to realize that. Nah, Florida, like, you can stay anywhere in Florida. It's like, I don't know. So if you left Orlando, you wouldn't go fully out of state? You just love it too much? It's not like no thing like I'm just stuck like I don't know I'm just I'm like I love it there like it ain't it ain't no bad thing I like it's like I like it I guess you haven't really

been famous for that long you feel like if you you keep blowing up and your career keeps going that at some point you might be like no no it don't matter how how famous you get oh yeah just got to know how to move though now for it you got to know to move you got to know where to be yeah but some places you don't have to worry about how you move I've seen rappers move out of Florida where they were watching their back all the time and then living in LA and they're walking around like everything's all good because none of the politics out there matters out here and not just Florida but every fucking state no what I'm saying though if you know how to move though you wouldn't have to do all that or you know what to be yeah but that's a lot of pressure to really know

how to move all the time right nah see you said Florida or Orlando see yeah that's different but Florida see now I can't tell if you're not close enough. But now, see, you, you're talking about, you're talking about Florida. That's, that's too big. Like, you don't got it. I don't know. I don't. You got no how to move. That's it. I feel you. Do you think Florida should be its own country? Then you wouldn't have to listen to all the rest of America's laws. I feel like Florida's already kind of making moves in that direction. What? Being I don't know. Yeah. I feel like we, we definitely. our own world though.

Like we got, we always got our own that stuff going on. Like, if we go somewhere, like anywhere, like, it's gonna be like,

y'all from Florida. Oh, yeah. They don't say nothing else. Y'all from Florida, you know. You ooze Florida. You got all Florida energy.

That's, that's, in my, my look. It really be my accent to what they be saying. Right. I really,

it'd be my look. Well, I'll tell you this is that I never heard a president talk about a governor the way that I heard Biden talk about the governor of Florida

because of his like COVID restrictions and he said that you know you're not allowed to make people wear a mask and all this shit I mean man I heard Biden talk about him like he was talking about like you know the leader of some country that he don't fuck with

which normally you don't see the president really beefing with his governors too much I don't even ain't allowed to anything about none of that but why they was um what happened? There's this whole coronavirus you know

basically the governor of florida's kind of a dickhead or you know in some people's opinions he probably did the right thing but Biden wasn't a fan of it I don't know I need to get into that stuff you probably don't you think you need to be more into politics I don't know could be a good thing though it could be good yeah you should be like the mayor of Orlando one one day be the mayor right now yeah I mean you'd be pretty young That's the title right there. My next project. It makes me out of the oak.

Makes sense to me. Okay, so, yeah, when does your music start trying to pop up? I'm trying to figure out when you actually start getting a good degree of success and people are really fucking your music and shit. Like around the age of like, I want to say 14. Okay. I ain't really put no music out until I was like, like, 14. music got until I was like 14 15 and my first song was like as soon as I dropped it

like it went crazy throughout the whole oh so it's like and I was like oh yeah I just stay consistent with it then that's when I had I locked up when I locked up my buzz kind of went up some other and I still have music so I still was dropping so and then I went on a home pass like where you could visit you could visit for like two days and go back then I mean you got like two months left So you'd be shooting videos and stuff? Why you were supposed to be locked up or? To my, when I went on the home visit.

Yeah, like on the home visit, you were able to do like actual shit for your career and everything? Yeah, I was recording, shot videos, did all that, came back. And then they just went from me. Then when I came here, I just, same, same, everything, stayed with it, stay consistent,

stayed dropping, everything. Right. So I kind of already knew like, I was gonna be something already. Everybody already told me anyways. Right. How do you feel like you started to take the step to being less just an Orlando artist and become more of like a national artist?

Like how do you kind of break out of that? There's like a lot of rappers who are just popping in Florida, right, that never really go outside of that? I don't know, you just gotta, you can't think only. Like how I did it, it was like, okay, I've seen other artists out of the old. artists out of the old and like I seen the steps they took or whatever they did and I seen and learn from a day mistake so I want to make those so it's like okay boom you can't have your mind only stuck on Orlando like it's never going how you gonna get outside

island how you got your mind only I thought of Florida first okay boom thank you I want the whole Florida I want the whole island that's too small so I want the whole Florida right quick so boom okay get them now I want the whole U.S. now I want the world. It's like go like that. You can't just, you, and there's nothing. You can't focus on like a lot of stuff that's going on and like where you at. You can't try to compete with this person, do this, do this, do this, do this. Keep your mind up. You're going to shoot past everything, all that was, you see what I'm saying? I don't know. No, I mean, you see that all the time where it's like you'll see, like if an artist starts to really get big and then they still seem like

they're kind of like involved in the politics or where they came from and they're responding to some random as rapper that they really should not be responding to and shit. I see that happen all the time and I always will be like wondering like, why the fuck is he wasting his time on this? Yeah. And it'd be like

some situations, be like you gotta know your value and you got to know it's like okay not to do this. Like not to be around these people right here. Yeah. Like certain type of people like

We had to know all that, separate yourself. Right. Have you had that problem? You had, like, people that used to be around all the time, and you kind of had to stop being around them at a certain point to protect your career? Yeah, it was like, because it's like, all right. So it's like, okay, let's say I'm, I'm, my mind on elevation.

Right. But, okay. But we was just, we used to be da-da-da-da-da-da-da. You feel me, just like stupid stuff. okay but okay we older now niggins got kids we got a kid so my mind on elevation but your mind still on crazy stuff so it's like I and every time I come around you I'm jeopardizing what I'm trying what I'm trying what I'm trying to get to every time I come around you I'm jeopardizing it so like now I got to shake you because you like you

wouldn't care of obviously you don't care if you if you if this fuck you up but you now you don't care of it fuck me up too so I got to shake you it like can you do that Yeah, because just for example, you'll have that one homie who is your friend from growing up. He's always down to ride, down for whatever. But then all of a sudden your career starts going good. And he's the dude who's backstage

with you at the show and the security guard bumped into him. So now he wants to fight the security guard and he's tripping and the whole thing gets fucked up because you got one friend that you fuck with and you love him, but he don't know how to act. He's acting like he's in some shitty little club or something and you don't realize like, no, I'm here to perform.

like this is a business like you need to fall in line like if you had situations that are kind of comparable to that yeah a lot of situations you just got to I don't know and like certain people just probably will never change mm I mean it's weird because you want everybody to grow with you but in reality the more shit that you go through the more that you change and the more everybody else kind of stays the same yeah now you got some that's going to elevate with you though you guys something that's definitely going to elevate with you what it's like you got them ones that's just like I don't know and I don't even think it'd be on purpose though but they just don't they just never see it I don't I be thinking about that shit a lot yeah I mean it's like if you really want to be great you have to be willing to leave a lot of shit behind at a certain point not necessarily like your relationships and shit you got to know how to yeah just like I don't know Adopt to what you got going on that.

Or adapt to what's best or what's better than that. Definitely. It'd be the adapting part, I think, for people. Right. No, yeah. 100%. So, okay, your shit starts going up. Like, do you feel like you're like somebody that the whole neighborhood or like the people that you came up around,

that they're looking at you now, like you got to, like you got to become the man because you sort of are like a representative for your whole area and your whole area hasn't necessarily had like a possibility like that you represent to the to the neighborhood and shit like do you feel like you have that pressure on you now like what you mean about be the man like what i mean like okay there's a lot of there's a lot of different places all over the country florida etc where it's like there's one famous rapper from there and that is that that that legitimizes that whole area like i know hoods in la that were nothing totally irrelevant nobody ever talked about them they get one rapper

who pops off all of a sudden they're in the conversation like people give a fuck about them and it's oh he's from there you know do you feel like there was a bit of that with you where it's like all of a sudden there's like an extra degree of pressure on you because people want you to be that guy no no i don't feel that out the pressure's all pressure that you're putting on yourself? Nah, I ain't going to put pressure on myself, though. I ain't going to do that. You don't feel pressure.

I would feel pressure if I was you, you know? Like, this is like this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Yeah. Of course I ain't going to jeopardize what I got going on. But look, but I believe in like, just God going, you feel? If it's meant to be, it's going to happen. Really? You really believe that?

So that gives you a lot of, like, confidence so you don't have to worry about your career you just believe that however it happens is how it's supposed to happen no i ain't gonna say i don't care i ain't never say that i'm just saying god you do what you do you do to the best to your ability and god just going to happen god it's gonna happen i need god in my life man you got to help me out take me to church or something you know i don't even been going to i only be going to church though really what's your relationship with god like what's you mean I don't know. How do you talk to him? I'm trying to figure out how to pray, man. You got to put me on. You just pray. You just do it? Yeah. Okay.

Close your eyes. Pray. Pray before you go to sleep. Pray when you wake up. Pray before you eat. Just pray. I don't know, you could really just talk to God, right? Just like a regular conversation. Let me ask you this. So when you were locked up, does your relationship with God become more intense? Or does it seem more important when you're in, like, the worst place? are not able to do any of the things that you want to do? Yeah, most definitely. But it's like, can't think like that, though.

You got to be like on some, you got to be like, okay, even when you get out of this situation, you still got to keep it up. But it do get more intense in that, though. I can tell you that. Do you learn a lot in there, or how did that change you as a person? It made me like, I don't know, I just learned body language. Really?

People. Like, I don't know. I learned not. And for me being in there, I was so young, but it's like, I didn't hear from a lot of people. So that's like, that just made me like, I am. You said you didn't hear from a lot of people? Yeah. So that meant you realize how fake a lot of the love that you thought you had was?

And I just show you like, when you're going there, it's like, the people who who, who was with you, I was in there, them the ones who like, because, bro, okay. People be out here, they ain't thinking about what you're going. But it'd be hell. Like, sometimes it'd be hell. Like, it'd be like, but people don't be thinking about that. So the people who do think about, take their time about your day, take time of my day, they hit you up or do this, check up, all you, you feel,

and stuff that. You can't, you got to keep them, and you're like, you got to keep them. That's the best one. Yeah. I mean, it's, I've been in that position where it's like I got somebody I really fuck with with and they're locked up, and, you know, at first you're calling them and shit. And out of a certain point It's kind of like sometimes you just stop calling

Because you don't know what the fuck to say You know? Because it's like sometimes you talk to people in prison And like they got nothing to talk about It do be like that something to know And you feel bad because you're like damn Like I just did like 10 things this week That were fly as fuck that I'm happy about

That if I told you about I would sound like I was just bragging And then you mean while talking to them And it's like they ain't got nothing to talk about Every day is the same Yeah it do be like see My phone calls is like that I don't be caring sometimes. See like sometimes I wouldn't even call nobody sometimes. I don't even want to think about it. I don't want to, I was like the more you think about it I was like your time that's just that's gonna slow your time down.

Right. I was on something like okay I don't want to talk to nobody. I talked to my own was like most that was really like only person I was really trying to talk to him. Right. But then I'm just driving. I'm trying to talk to nobody. I ain't even talking to my mom every day. Really? I'm trying to think about the house. I don't know, I just feel like it speeds your time. Keep thinking about it. You're like, I'm supposed to be out there.

I want to be out of this. I'm trying to think about that. So mentally, like, what do you keep reminding yourself of in that situation to, like, stay focused? Like, what helps you get through the day when you're in that, when you were in those positions? I don't know, like, like, man and shit. Yeah. But other than that, I don't know. I don't know. I was, really, I was writing.

So you think you got a lot better at writing raps while you were in there? Because you just didn't have shit else to do? Yeah. But I don't know, because I really didn't have no beats and stuff. So it was like, everything was like, it was more stories to tell and stuff like that. Yeah, because I was thinking that when I was thinking about your shit last night is that like, most rappers like get in the studio, they hear a beat and they rap over the beat. beat and like being locked up and not even having heard a beat in weeks or months I mean that must be like really hard to get some like inspiration you know you

could write poetry but you can't write like a flow the way that you would when you just have a beat on right so you just go it the flowed and you see the first way you said it that's them rapping on the beat right that's them that's them that's them adjusting they words and they flow to the beat when you are to do this when you got to do it in there you got to adjust the beat you adjust the beat so it's like it's really like the same thing just got to find a hard beat but okay let me give your thoughts on this like when i interviewed dredko the ruler a little while ago he was talking about how he was right i don't think he wrote anything in prison but he was talking about how or maybe he did but he said that he

feels like you come home from prison and that you got to like not rap about prison because it's too depressing motherfuckers don't want to hear it they don't understand do you agree with that because like from my perspective it's like damn you kind of went through like one of the craziest things that you can go through

I'm interested to hear about it but then at the same time I feel what he's saying where probably people only want to hear about that so much see you said all at first but so much probably I don't know but I don't feel like that

because it's like you gotta make music for all type of people you can't just make music for these type there's people that have been through that though It's people that's like You by you making a song by that Probably like and then like With something like in a motivated way

Or like speaking like on like what you What you've been through and stuff That'll be like that'll make them even feel more close to Like damn I've been through that too That'll make them like yeah I fuck with bro You can't And then that's a story that got to be told Like

I feel like That's the story that got to be too Hey But you know what I heard on Instagram live the other day i heard you weren't really running shit like you might have been running your section but you weren't really running shit you know what i'm referring to when you were with the fly soldier kid on iG live and he started trying to press you and you were laughing so hard that shit was so funny bro you could not believe that he was trying to say that shit to you who you seemed very like

you didn't know what the fuck to say in that moment who okay fair enough Just in a more general sense, how would you feel if hypothetically somebody were to question how you were moving around in there after the fact? Like, it just seemed like you were just so offended slash, like, couldn't believe what you were hearing hypothetically. Who? All right. What do you want to talk about? I don't know. What's your next question, though?

Well, I was wondering about the rose in your hair. That's my heart right there. Really? That was the inspiration. or you just wanted to show that you had a heart? Yeah, I do got a heart right now. Can you get a little closer to that? So it's a symbol?

It's like a symbol? Like it symbolizes your heart? No. Or is it more of like a style thing where you just like the way it looks? No, I just put it in for right now. Okay. How long has it been there?

Earlier since earlier. Yeah, definitely. Probably wouldn't want to keep it there for more than a day. too? I can't sleep with it. It's gonna die. Hell yeah. Well, you put it in water at night? You ever think about trying any other kind of flowers? No, it's my heart. That's why that's like that. That's that color. That's my heart right. I just feel like, you know, like hair dye, like everybody did it. It's kind of normal at this point. Might be like this for a little minute. Well, not with the rose, right? No. But I'm saying like there's a lot of different like hairstyles and hair dye jobs that we've seen.

but there's like infinity flowers that motherfuckers are not putting in their hair you're the first person i seen with the rose but like i mean wait till tulip gang pulls up then we're gonna be really lit no i don't know i ain't do it i think about all that when i got big plans yeah i didn't think i didn't do all that i feel it um what did i want to ask about oh yeah yeah yeah i saw you on the kodak album yeah yeah yeah i saw you on the kodak album yeah That's kind of crazy. That's like a big fucking cosine. Yeah, four we had to. How'd that end up happening? I think he sent me that one.

He was in a year. He played this one. I want you on this one. You were in the studio with him. Yeah. For that one. Yeah. Not for that song. He played it for me.

Oh, okay. He's like, yeah, I want you on this one. And I did it like the next day, like a couple days. How'd you end up getting in the studio in the first place? Was that through track? No. How'd you guys meet? I mean, yeah, man.

How'd you meet him, like, and even getting the studio together in the first place? I was just vibing. It was just vowing. Right. Did you feel, like, an additional level of pressure, given that he's kind of, like, you know, as much as he's young, he's kind of, like, the biggest artist out of Florida, like, you know,

especially for the street wave. Yeah. What do you mean? You said pressure? Yeah, like, I mean, you hop on a song with him. Like, were you putting more thought into your raps than... Oh, yeah, most of that. Most of that.

You got it. Got it come crazy with that boy. That boy going to snap every time. Got to come great. Definitely. For sure. What about the song with Future? What was that vibe?

Like, that must have been kind of crazy. You were in Future and, like, 50 fucking girls? Yeah, that shit was. Yeah. I sure do that. Right. How was it, though, being around future, you're getting any kind of wisdom from him

or anything like that? Yeah. Like, you know, it's always room for, like, it's always room for adjusting or, like, learning something. Not adjusting, like, learning. I run for growth and shit, so you just peeps some shit.

But the future of goats, so, you know, you definitely learn something. Definitely. Who brought the girls? You were him. Oh, video girls for the video. See, I didn't know if you were going to admit that or not. No, no, video girls.

Right. You didn't know any of them before that or whatever. It's like, that's like when you see that many girls in a video, you just know that like a lot of legwork had to go in to get all them hot girls to show up at the same time. Fair enough. How was rolling love? That was your first time doing a show on that level? Yeah.

You go a little bit closer in there But what was the experience like? There's a lot of energy We're performing to that many people, huh? Yeah And in your home state It was 10 I died of a good experience for me

And I mean people thought that You know, we thought you weren't going to be showing up Because you had been in some Some issues legally Prior to that And then all of a sudden, boom, there you were Yeah

For sure Okay, what else you got going on? Anything else we need to know about? I'm gonna drop soon. You got another project dropping. Mm-hmm. Would you switch up for this one? What's the plan?

I'm gonna see. I'm just really perfecting my craft, and you every day. It's just like, I feel like I'm getting better as an artist. And I feel like I got some difference. stuff to show y'all like another type of high right fans and stuff I got to show them that's what's motivating you at this point you want them to see the growth and see how serious you're taking the shit it always be by growth though they always be by

good definitely um shit okay anything else that we uh need to cover anything else that you uh want to go out of your chest you want to bear your soul to the camera real quick anything else you want to say to the audience out there What's camera? Right there. Oh. No. Nothing more to promote.

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