No Jumper - The Inas X Interview

Episode Date: December 23, 2019

Previously signed to Fetty Wap's label, Inas X is now elevating her independent status! She holds no punches when it comes to breaking down how some men and executives treated her when she was young a...nd naive. She now knows what she wants and make sure to voice her opinion loud and clear! ----- FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm follow Adam22 as well: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and follow adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumber. Coolest podcast in the world. How do I say it? Inaz X? Inaz. Inaz X. Okay. It sounds interesting in here.
Starting point is 00:00:07 What's going on? I got a bunch of reverb and shit. Reverb. Do you fuck with it? Do we? Sounds good. It sounds good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Hell yeah. Well, that's good to know. Sounds good. Is it crazy? Do I look funny with this? No, you look fine. Although, yeah, a lot of times girls are worried about their hair or whatever. Yeah, all the headphones on.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Yeah. Or even dudes come in with just weird-ass hair coats and they're just all about preserving it, you know? Facts. I mean in the studio I don't give a fuck I'm just like whatever but now that it's like Well okay see that there's an interesting question because a lot of dudes rappers that I know They go in the studio where nobody can see them and then they put on like thousand dollar shoes And they got three thousand dollar pants and wear this crazy designer yeah and maybe see it a little bit on the gram but you don't see too much of it No I mean it is it is all about the fucking gram because if not even for me like I just want to look like shit in the studio
Starting point is 00:00:55 I don't want to care you know you're not in full glam in the studio Most of the time, no, because I just want to like, zone out. You know what I mean? But then it's like if I'm getting photos at there, if I know I'm getting video, I got to look good and shit. Like even today, I was like, can I just wear sweatpants? You know what I mean? It's like, damn, we're recording it. But that's real, though.
Starting point is 00:01:13 People have different, like, sometimes girls will come in with no makeup on and like sweatpants and shit. And then they realize like, oh, it's a video podcast, not audio. And they're like, oh, I've had girls like basically cancel it the day of like porn star chicks who just for some reason didn't realize. that they were going to be on camera. Yeah. See, if I didn't know, like, I'm a fan. I watch the shit. But if I didn't, then I'd be like, I wouldn't have known.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I'd be like, oh, yeah, it's a radio interview. We're fine. So I mean, this is back when I get here. But these days, everything's pretty much video. Or at least you're taking photos to go with the audio. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:46 But I think that's interesting, though, because it's like a lot of these rappers, though, I feel like they don't feel like they can really get into the mind state of making the drippiest saucy music. Why? Unless they're in their full outfit. Because they're capping. Oh, okay. Most of the time it's full cap.
Starting point is 00:02:03 So it's just like, oh yeah, let me just cap to wear all my designer shit. But it's like I'm going to return it tomorrow. Please, everyone needs to stop cap. Wear every single chain even when you're in the house. Yeah, literally. But in the reality of it is it's just like, you know, if they're really going to just fucking create, you don't need to do all that shit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:19 Like you really don't. Like, you know. But if you want to like flex on the ground, which most of the time they do. But I bet you anything, if you catch them like 5 a.m. or 6 a.m., they look fucking crazy, you know. Yeah, but I mean, that's kind of the thing is to buy the crazy, expensive drip and then just wear it and get it dirty, get Cheeto stains on the Gucci, just fucking rock it and throw it away.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Right, right. It's just so stupid, but that's kind of like the ideal that they're going towards because rappers always talk about only wearing shoes once in their songs now. Yeah. That's such a weird thing to brag about. That's a girly thing to do. You know? Yeah, and dude, that's why when old school rappers are like,
Starting point is 00:02:54 all these new rappers act like bitches, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, it's like, I get it. I get what you're saying, for sure. I get it for sure. I mean, like, there's some girls that are wearing, like, baggy or shit than guys nowadays. You know, it's like, it's almost like the fucking rolls of reverse almost sometimes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:09 Like, I see, like, a girl, mad swag, baggy shit. Then a guy was, like, tight ass. You know, and I'm like, all right. I tell my girlfriend that, too, because she thinks that she needs to wear some crazy-ass raver thought outfit when we go to fucking festivals and shit. And I, like, one time she was, like, really upset because she didn't have time to get her makeup, professionally dumb before going to her. going to fucking rolling loud or something.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Is she Middle Eastern? She's Armenian. Okay. Yeah, I'm Middle Eastern. We're always doing the most. It's just like, it's like the thing. It's always just doing, we just always feel like, oh, I got a full glam. You got to go hard.
Starting point is 00:03:40 But nowadays it's so true, like it's fine. You can wear anything, like literally and swagged out. I'm like, wear leggings and some fucking boots and like a sweater and you could like fucking wear a hat or you can just like put your hair up. You're going to look fine. Everybody there is not. like not gonna judge you as if you're not doing enough. Exactly. Or you know what I peeped lately?
Starting point is 00:04:00 It's like if I wear like fly ass sneakers, like I get so many more compliments than if I wear heels. Like it's crazy. Like I literally just got like these like ones and they're like really cool colors and shit. And everyone's like whoa, like those are sick. Everyone. Right. And like when I wear heels it doesn't matter like fucking whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:16 They don't care. Like oh cool. You could wear a super basic outfit but if your sneakers are really really dope. Are fly? It's facts. Even as a girl. It's like, oh, okay. But how miserable are high heels on Honestly, it's just like right now, I personally, I'm short. So I've always like been like, you know, I'm fun size actually, but five two. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:36 My girlfriend also five two. Yeah, that's a thing. You know, fun size. So it's like we always want to wear heels because we always, because being short, like I hate. I'm always looking up, you know. And there's a sort of fucking little like, what's the word? Like you kind of feel a little lesser than sometimes. Next to some chick who's five nine and it's just towering over.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Yeah, it's annoying. So I always wear heels. But lately I've just been on this, like, I don't give a fuck anymore. Like, I don't want my feet to look ugly anymore. Like, I want, you know what I mean? We wear heels. It fucks up your feet. Like, you get all these weird bunnies.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You know what I mean? Like, all these, I got to get pedicures and, like, tell them, like, shave these bunions down. These fucking heels are killing me, you know? A lot of times when you're going out, you're basically committing to standing up for, like, three, four, five hours. Let me tell you right now. In those things? When I fucking go out, like, I'm out for an hour, two hours. And then I'm like, give my money, I'm out.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Really? That's the attitude? Yeah, because it's just like, it hurts. It's painful. It really is. It really is. Like, you're standing in the heels. You know, like you can't do shit about it.
Starting point is 00:05:36 You know, you're not going to take your heels of them look crazy. So it's like, oh, man, I feel for it. You got like the crazy-ass long nails, though. So don't try to act like a low maintenance. I know. Definitely not. Proudly high maintenance. And crusted in those too and everything.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Like every nail has a different pattern on it. Period. Holy shit. Shout out my nail girl. She's the best. How much of that cost. honestly honestly she hooks me the fuck up like these are not expensive but but they look expensive they do but she's my girl she's Armenian as well she's my girl and she has my birthday so she's a shit christina shout out Christina she's shit so where'd you grow up in Brooklyn? I grew up in Sunset Park
Starting point is 00:06:10 okay yeah and it was lit but then I moved to Connecticut as a teenager and it was like the worst what your family started getting money so you moved to Connecticut yeah wow what were your parents doing I mean my mom started her own business like I come from like a super strong independent woman. My stepdad was always fucking shit up, you know. Was it criminal? No, he was just like, you know, it's like Middle Eastern men are super like, you know, and it's like this, he was just not a good guy, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:41 And finally, thank gosh, not with him anymore, thank God. But he found a good woman to sort of mooch off of. Yeah, pretty much. And then like now that they're not together, finally, he doesn't know how to survive. Like, you know, yeah, like it's that because it's like the women are supposed to like do everything and shit, you know. And normally the men of the breadwinner, but in my mom's situation, she was just, she was the boss.
Starting point is 00:07:01 She just started her own business in the medical field and just went crazy. Do you see that strain in yourself as well that you might be like a boss bitch who's just got like a fucking safari dragging you down? I mean, I literally. No offense to safari. I'm sure. No, like literally I fucking have been in so, like every situation I've been in has been that.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And I feel like finally it's like breaking that, you know what I mean? like breaking that whole cycle. Right. You know, because I'm very like dominant and very like, aggressive woman. But then it's like, I want to be taken care of by my man.
Starting point is 00:07:35 You know what I mean? And I want him to be equal to me or even, you know what I mean? Like I look up to you, you know, rather than fucking me taking care of my, you know, that's pathetic.
Starting point is 00:07:45 You date rappers and ballplayers and shit? I mean, in the beginning of my career, I've definitely made like a lot of stupid fucking decisions. You know what I mean? And like now I'm just, like not. Really?
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yeah. I mean, like, in the beginning of my career, like, I was signed the same with what was Fuddy Webb. So, like, like, you know, I, I was dating someone. I was in a relationship and everything, you know, during that time. Within the 1738 crew? Kind of, not really, kind of. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:12 And then it was kind of a situation where when I was on tour. 6-9? No, but when I was on tour, listen to the story. So when I was on tour, hold on, let me fix my fucking headphones because I'm falling out. You don't have to run it, by the way. I know. Am I, can I not? I kind of like listening to us though.
Starting point is 00:08:26 That's cool, right? I really do. It's like a vibrating of your own voice and the other person's voice in your ear. In your ear? Yeah, it adds to it, you know? And you're making it so you can't hear anybody else. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I fucking like it. So anyway, so yeah, when I was in a relationship, but then I found out like I was on tour with Fettian Post, you know? And it was like huge at the time. And I was with this fucking guy who was not it at all. And he's back home, stressing you out? He was just stressing you the fucking. out, right? And he wasn't, he was not that dude and I have like Fetty who's like on my dick,
Starting point is 00:09:00 but like I was just, you know, like I was in a relationship. Staying loyal. You were the loyal type? You really didn't cheat on this guy? I really did it. Okay. Listen to this shit. So then I find a fucking video on his phone and him fucking another girl. Oh my God. Yeah. Okay. I was young. I was really young and I was really naive, but I was like really loyal to him and I didn't want to do anything. So at the time, I like didn't have, like, I never told anyone the story. I'm going to tell you this story. I feel special. I know. I feel like people come on here and tell shit that they never saw anyone. So it's like a thing. So I was like, this is it. This is the place to tell the story if you're going to sound. Sounds good. So then, you know, we were in, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:37 whatever. And I found that video. And then Fetty was kind of like, you know, I'm me, but you know, he always had his hose and shit. And I was just like, I don't want to be one of those. My guy, like, I know, like he had cancer. He had chemo. He couldn't have kids. So I wasn't on birth control because I just like I was used to that with my guy. You know, that was like I didn't have to worry about that. A bonus. Yeah, it was a bonus. I didn't have to worry about shit.
Starting point is 00:09:59 You almost died, but we don't have to wear a condom. Yeah, exactly. You know, period. But so, you know, on tour, you know, me and Betty, like, I finally was just like, fuck it. I'm just going to do it. I don't care, you know? Right.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Because after I found that video on my guy's phone, I was like, fuck you. Uh-huh. So me and Fetty had a little fling for like a while, you know, on tour. And then after tour, I was pregnant. With this guy. with Fetty's baby Whoa Yeah
Starting point is 00:10:22 And I had to You know I took care of it But you know And that's why like I was so like You know I do want to talk about this Because I was like think about it
Starting point is 00:10:30 And I was like to talk about it But it's like The whole like abortion conversation Is like a thing now And it's just like hold on We can't fucking take away Women's rights like this Like I was not ready to have baby
Starting point is 00:10:39 You know And I don't give a fuck How many baby mamas Did it And they did it Power to them Right I don't see them doing shit
Starting point is 00:10:47 Now no offense I don't care I'll say it I don't give a No, I mean, we got to keep women's rights to have an abortion for sure because we definitely don't need some one-eyed baby with mad chains on, just running around America and shit, fake dreads, all that. And my thing is, especially when I would be one of nine, my baby mamas, like, that's so embarrassing. And for my, at that, I don't know, probably. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Something like that, right? And it's like at the beginning of my fucking career, that would have ruined me. Did you have people like your friends and shit who are telling you, like, you don't want to do this? because that's going to sort of taint your image because, you know, women are judged super harsh. You know, everybody was telling me that you cannot fucking do this. Like you will be like you look like an idiot. Like I was the artist like, you know, we were on the same label. Like it was like, you know, as an artist, all you want people is to always take you seriously
Starting point is 00:11:37 with your music and shit. You know what I mean? So for me to be like baby mama number nine or whatever the fuck I would have been. Right. That looks pathetic, you know. So everybody was like telling me no, but I already knew like no. So did the boyfriend? friend get broken up with before you had this abortion and stuff?
Starting point is 00:11:52 Or how did that happen? We were like still, you know, toxic relationship shit. Going back and forth. Yeah. And like, you know, he knew that it wasn't his and that's when our relationship went haywire. I could imagine. Yeah, it was really bad. It was really bad.
Starting point is 00:12:05 So that was like after that experience, I was like really scarred. Was Fetty distressed about the baby or at this point is that just like whatever for him? It's just whatever for him. He's just happy to have another hot girl with a baby runner. He doesn't give a fuck. Holy shit. Like, I don't know because his parents, like, I don't know. He's a good mama.
Starting point is 00:12:24 You know, like, I love his mama. And I was like, damn, like, what's the wrong with you? Like, you know, your mom is so respectful. But who knows? You don't know what people go to. So he has a kid and then it's just like, he'll hang out with it a little bit, but he's not really pressed to spend that much time with it. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:12:36 I don't think that. Like, listen, I don't know how he is his father. He looks like a good father, but I wouldn't want to have a baby with someone who has fucking nine baby mamas. Like, that's so embarrassing. That's so, like, that's not what I, want. I don't even have nine friends. Like you feel me in my circle's that small, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:52 So it's like, oh, hell no, this is not it. So for me, it was like the best decision that I made in my life. And then now it's like this whole conversation like stopping abortions. Like what the fuck are we talking about? Are we being serious? No, for real. Like if you are allowing people to, or you're forcing people that have kids that they don't want to have, those kids are going to grow up a shitty fucking upbringing.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Period. They're going to get into crime and they're going to be hanging out at the bus stop and shit. You don't want that. You want people to only be having kids. kids if they really want to be having kids. Period. But was, and I apologize if this is too intrusive,
Starting point is 00:13:22 but was the abortion like traumatic for you or is there a relatively smooth process? It was so traumatic. I mean, because, okay, there's a couple reasons why I was traumatic. So I had the abortion in April. I was on tour from January,
Starting point is 00:13:35 February, March. I had the abortion in April. Like, it was like that. And then in July, I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. And like they say, it was insane.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And they say that when a woman gets pregnant, like with MS, like that's what brings out, you know, like different attacks and because your hormones go so up and then they go so down. Wow, really. So, yeah. So it was like the most traumatic, like, couple months of my life. And this was like my first national tour with fucking the biggest artist at the time and Post Malone right before Post blew the fuck up too, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:08 And like this is like, I'm on Billboard, I'm on this and that. And then all this shit happened, you know? Holy fuck. So it was just like, yeah, it was a lot. That is insane. It was so traumatic that I was just. Just like, yeah. So did you have a hunch that you were sick for a while leading up to this diagnosis?
Starting point is 00:14:24 Or were you okay? And then you just found out? I mean, it was like literally insane. When I tell you insane, like I started like around in June, I started like my vision and my left eye started going. And it was crazy that it was my left eye. And then I started like seeing double vision. I had an optic nerve attack.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And then who was stomping? Sorry about that. People upstairs. It's such a dark topic. We didn't, we're not really supposed to have a studio in here. So people just walk around upstairs. Yeah, this is sort of like a spur of the moment. Fuck, every fucking building in Hollywood was how it was built like this.
Starting point is 00:15:00 So whatever. But yeah, it's just, it was insane. And then I got the diagnosis and I started treatment. And it was like, oh, how am I going to deal with all this? You know? It was really, it was just a lot. So in terms of what that's going to be like for you is this is the kind of thing that's just going to sort of steadily get worse and worse for. you or like what's it like what's it like for you diagnosis-wise i mean thank god like i'm doing
Starting point is 00:15:23 amazing like i'm on treatment and i'm doing like the treatment's working amazing for me so like it's almost like we reversed it and i feel like i feel cured like i feel amazing you know i really do and i just it was a very traumatic time for me and i was also in like a bad deal like record deal too at the same time so what was the rfg productions is the name of the label yeah that's too pretty much yeah That's who Fetty is signed to. People thought I was signed to Fetty, but no, we're signed to the same label. Okay. You know, and it was just, it was bad.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I feel, you know, I feel bad for him and every artist that was signed because... How did they discover you? I met Watt at an event in New York. He's from Jersey. I'm from New York, you know. And I moved back to New York eventually and whatever. And I met him at an event and I had just worked with, like, the Timbalin camp and all this shit and, like, new artist shit, but, like, they wanted to sign me.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And then I was just like, I didn't know. You know, I was so. young and I didn't fucking know. I didn't know anything, you know. Right. So like, did you have any kind of social media following already? Or are you sort of just a little bit, not really. Yeah. Like, it was just like, I had like 30,000 when I met Fetty and it was just like da-da-da-da, you know, and I just, I was like 19, 20. And being 19 as a, as a woman especially and just having to figure out what label the sign of this shit is just such a, it was a lot. You're so not prepared and there's almost nobody that you can really turn to. Unless you're lucky and you end up with a really
Starting point is 00:16:46 good music lawyer, but I mean, it's tough to come by it. I just feel like so like, you know, like people who just get lucky off their first try are like so fucking blessed, you know? Like, it's like, fuck. That's why it's crazy seeing Taylor Swift come out and be like, oh, I don't know my masters or whatever because every other musician in the industry is like nobody owns their fucking early catalog, which is terrible, but it's so true. What's happening to her right now is fucked up.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I feel bad for her. She is just like, oh, man. The weird thing about it, though, is that she's like weaponizing her fan. to go after these dudes who are basically doing the exact same thing that everybody else in the music industry is doing. Like I heard Joe Bunnan talking about it the other day and he's like laughing about it because that's his career is that his early albums are owned by somebody else because they're signed to a label. Exactly. Exactly. And that's a great thing about what happened to me and the deal ending and me getting out and stuff is like they would have owned me for the rest of my life.
Starting point is 00:17:37 How did you get out of the deal? It just wasn't that kind of long term deal. It wasn't that long term. And it was like a production deal and they had to get me a label deal. WAP is fucked, you know, because WAP got, they got him a deal with 300, you know, and that was the goal. They had to get me a bigger deal, you know? Right. But it was just, they were just, oh, it was a fucking disaster, you know?
Starting point is 00:17:56 Because they just couldn't do anything for you or what was the deal? Yeah, it was called. It was like, our tour was like, welcome to the zoo. And it was like, welcome to the motherfucking zoo. It was a zoo. It was insane. Really? Yeah, it was fucked.
Starting point is 00:18:09 A lot of bad shit going on every day. A lot of bad shit. A lot of shady shit. A lot of people stealing shit. lot of people doing fuck shit like shady shit wow and you're just brand new in the industry just taking this all in like what the fuck is yeah what the fuck is this yeah and i'm like so naive you know what i mean like if i it's a whole fucking saying if i knew then what i know now type shit you know what i mean like i wouldn't have tolerated any of it but like at the time it was like
Starting point is 00:18:33 were you like a young girl dreaming about being a recording artist or is this something that just sort of popped up as like a girl who was just coming up and it just was an opportunity My dream was always to do music, be on tour. You know what I mean? Like that was always my dream. So finally my dreams are coming true. You know, like I'm on tour. I'm on radio.
Starting point is 00:18:51 I'm on Billboard. All this shit. But like I'm in a fucked up deal. I'm going to fucked up relationship and fucked up situations. I mean like just all these fucked up things. And it was a lot of it was my decisions. You know, you can't like blame everybody forever, you know? Like it was my decisions.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I made these decisions. Like I decided to sign the deal. You know what I mean? Because I was fucking opening up for him and. performing in front of 10,000, 3,000, 10,000 people. That feels like the biggest thing in the world at that time. Yeah. And I'm like a real performer.
Starting point is 00:19:18 That's my thing. You know what I mean? So yeah, that's my shit. That's my thing. So when I get on that stage, I just lose myself, you know, and that's what I love more than anything. So for me, it was like, I'm able to do what I love more than anything. It's such a big fucking scale.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And I've only been doing music for like two years. You know what I mean? Like at the time. So it was all like, or even less. So it was all like amazing at the time. You know what I mean? Right. Like I started as an intern at Def Jam.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Really? When you were what, like 18, 19? Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah. And what was that like? Was that as an introduction to the music industry, how was that? Being real, like, honestly, like I saw so young how fucked up the industry was.
Starting point is 00:19:55 You know what I mean? Yeah, like how fucked up it is to like women. You know what I mean? Like most of the, and it's like a, it's a sucky thing and I feel like it's changing maybe. I'm going to see what you think. Okay. Because I feel like, obviously most of the guys just want to fuck. Obviously most of these execs, you know, that's how the.
Starting point is 00:20:11 fuck they are. You know, they just want to smash or they're just trying to finesse or whatever the fuck they're doing. You know, homie on homie on homie. So you just felt that because I mean most people in the music industry for the most part like on a professional end, it is mostly dudes. Mostly dudes. It just doesn't end up with that many. And it doesn't matter if you look like a girl. As long as you got a pussy, they want to fuck. It's like dead ass. Like it doesn't matter. Because I know girls that look like straight up boys and they still get mad dudes that want to fuck them. And I'm like, you look like a boy. I don't understand. I feel like I'm so oblivious to this because like to me, I would not.
Starting point is 00:20:41 never try anything with a girl in the industry because it seems so problematic. And you have a girl that you fuck with. Right. Most of these dudes don't have that. You know what I mean? They have girls that they don't fuck with or whatever, you know? I'll holler at like a fucking stripper or a porn stuff, but girls in the music industry, I'm just so like aware of what their position is and how.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Yeah. You know, it's a power thing. Yeah, exactly. They try to fucking take power from like, and these little young artists or whatever. And it's like they're easy prey or easy prey or whatever the fuck. You know what I mean? Like when I was young and naive, I was. was an easy.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Yeah, because you're in the ultimate shitty situation because you're super young, you're super cute, and you got all these fucking weird ass dudes who realistically are not around that much female talent probably. Period. And it's like, oh, you're talented. Easy prey. You know, they're like piranhas. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:26 And then the women, I was expecting the women to be like supportive. Sorry, I had this call. I had this woman who's still in my life and she's like my mentor. And she was like always giving me game. She was always like, if I would have just listened to her, it would be fine. But then I had these other women that were like Hating on me you know being fucking like oh she's trying to take my position so fuck her You're like no I'm not trying to take your position bitch. I don't care. I don't want this position
Starting point is 00:21:52 You're talking about like successful female recording artists? No like these exes Female execs that you expect to be supportive and they're not You know what I mean? Some are some are really about the women empowerment shit that they talk about They really are they're like you're a woman I've got I got your back you know what I mean and I've had those experiences thank God but that I've also had these experiences like these girls like they're so like bitchy and catty and like oh no she wants my position
Starting point is 00:22:18 fuck her get her out and that's how it was for me so I lost my internship after a month because I couldn't get credit from my school I was too young and then like because you're supposed to be like a fucking junior and I was only like a freshman so it was just like they didn't let me and then like you know I couldn't continue the girls I was interning for
Starting point is 00:22:35 in the publicity department we're like no we can't I can't and so Fetty was the first person that I should recognize you just having talent? Yeah, like he was the first one, like, legit, but after Timberlin in them. Oh, okay. But, like, the Timberlin thing was just more so, like, you know, like he was my favorite producer and like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:51 I was like, I would have worked a timeline. I was in the gym the other day in Timberlin walked in. You know, he, like, lost a lot of weight. It was great, yeah. It was huge triceps. His arms are gigantic. Like, it was just like, but at the time, it was weird because he was, he would, like, hit on me too.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And I was like, fucking 19. Bro, fucking relax. You know and like it was just sad and then like Fetty was the first one yeah that like believed in me and was like I love your music and was like you know what I mean like and for me at that time I was like oh my god you know but is it weird that like when someone really seems like they really believe in you in the music industry that usually they're also trying to fuck yeah but you know what with Fetty it was almost like like like he brought it to the team and then the team was like oh we got to sign her like it was like more professional yeah it was more and it wasn't like oh she's
Starting point is 00:23:40 fucking dope. You know what I mean? It wasn't like, oh, this whole, like, it wasn't that. It was like, she's dope and we need to work with her. And then it became, like, we were on tour and we were like, look, mm-hmm. And like, I remember, like, the time that I knew, I went to go get like a, they had these chocolate cup of strawberries and he had the whole box and he just like, here, take the whole box. And I was like, okay. Like, you know. Like, you know. At the time, you know, when you're fucking young, you don't fucking know. Like, you're just like, oh my God, he gave me a whole box of strawberries. That's so cute. And, you know, it was sweet. You know, it was sweet. Like shit like that, you know, but it was it was more so yeah, like the team and everybody was just like she's the fucking dope it. So at the time it just made me feel like really good because they were so like hot. But then it was like and then they were not. So when did you end up getting out of this deal and how that worked? I got out of it about a year ago. I just had to wait for it to end because they didn't want to let me out. So it was like really bad.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Like they didn't want to let me out. And then it was like, oh, you can go to court and all that bullshit. And I was like, yeah, we're not doing that because it's going to take more time than waiting for it to end. you know. So you feel like reborn now because you're hell yeah! Oh fuck yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I had a couple like, you know, transformations in that time. You know what I mean? And it was like, oh yeah. What changed? Musically or personality was? I mean like everything really because I went through the whole diagnosis. I went through that. I went like everything. You know what I mean? So I just like went through a couple
Starting point is 00:25:03 transformations, you know? And then like also with the music, I was making like super pop music. And then I was like, you know what? like I need to tap into my New York side, you know, and my fucking rail side real quick. And I did that, you know what I mean? But like, you know, because I sing and I rep. And that's always been the thing. But it was just like when I was signed to them, I was like the pop girl. And that's what they kept me as, the pop girl. And I was just like, I'm not just some bubble gun poppy bitch.
Starting point is 00:25:29 You know what I mean? They wanted you in that category, but you're out here like, nah, I'm a real Brooklyn bitch. Yeah, period. You know what I mean? But it's like sides to a bitch. You know what I mean? Like I got my sides. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:39 Like I got my vulnerable sides. I got my size where I want to go poppy, and then I got my sides where I like going hard. You know what I mean? So you work with writers at all? You do all your own shit. I mean, I read a lot, but I do like working. I do like the collaboration process.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I do. I think, like, as artists, we all need it. I just, yeah, I just did a feature with Little Zan, and I made him, like, I made him rewrite his verse. Really? Yeah. Wow. And I was, I even offered him a writer and everything.
Starting point is 00:26:05 And he was like, no, I'm just trying to write my own shit right now. You didn't like his verse? No, I didn't. I'm gonna be real. So you were doing a feature on his song or he was getting on your shit? He was getting on my ship. How did you guys even end up working together? Through a mutual person that we know.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Okay. Yeah, like a video person and shit. And then they were like, oh, we want to shoot your shit. They shot the Danny Lay, Chris Brown shit. And they shot like a bunch of shit. And I just put out a new video. So they reached out to me and they were like, we want to do your shit. And I had a song with him already.
Starting point is 00:26:33 But like they were like, oh, you should do a song. But I wasn't really on it that much. I was just on it like a little bit, like a little couple bars. Right. And they were like, no, you should. we should do like a real song and have him hop on it and like do-da-da-da. So like I throw him a song that I already had and then he hopped on it and then literally this just happening like now.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And then he was just like, yeah, I was like, yeah, I don't like the first. So you need to be write it. Or I'll give you a writer. And he agreed to it? Yeah. I feel like he pretty much of a pretty girl tells him to do something. He's just going to do it. No, he agreed to it.
Starting point is 00:27:01 That's my impression of L'Azance. It was hard. It was hard because I was scared that he was going to be offended, you know? He's so soft and I feel like, like I literally feel like of a person. girl tells him to do something he's just going to do it so I kind of like feel like I know exactly how that situation is like I literally saw those Dan lock eyes with Selena Powell and he like immediately forgot he had a girlfriend oh my god yeah that was that was when I knew he had a problem oh my god you like girls too much my friend you a fan of Selena Powell I saw her shit with you that shit was
Starting point is 00:27:30 fucking hilarious I went to rolling loud this bitch is crazy I went to rolling loud and so many people brought that up to me that it was like it was the only thing I had ever done was that that because so many people were like, oh my God, I just watched that thing with Selena. I'm like, holy fuck, that shit like took over the world. It really did. I don't know. I feel like people really want to hear like the fuck shit, like more than anything. You probably know a lot of girls who could tell us all the fuck shit.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Is it hard to stay out of the fuck shit or are you in the fuck shit? I mean, for me, I was, you know what I mean? When I was like younger, you know, I would get myself in these fucking situations, you know, like being Chris Brownhouse and shit. And to be like, why am I here? Chris Brown's house, how is that?
Starting point is 00:28:16 Remember the NDA? No, fuck no. You didn't sign it. Hell no. Did you see it? I walked the fuck out. Really? On God.
Starting point is 00:28:23 And I like him as an artist and I still respect him as an artist always. He's an amazing artist. But like personally, I don't fuck with none of that shit. None of what, the NDA shit? Just like fucking naked bitches running around, drugs everywhere and shit. And like, I just... That's what it was like? Yeah, like pounds of coke and shit on the table.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I don't get what fuck. This is the real. I'm gonna be real. Niggas need to stop fucking cap and stop. fucking front in because that's the fucking real. And like that shit is whack. Wow. So you weren't into the vibe.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Hell no. And then it was just like, well, you're going to join? Fuck no, nigga, I'm out. You got me fucked up. All the other girls that you were with or whatever, they were down. How'd you even end up going there? Oh, okay. So this is what happened.
Starting point is 00:28:58 So the first, I got this random fucking phone call one day. Uh-huh. Okay? I sort of got on my life right hand to the Bible. Oh, God. I got a random phone call one day and it was him. Uh-huh. I don't know how the fuck he got my number.
Starting point is 00:29:10 He's like, C.B. I'm like, what? Some of these rapids and shit, man I swear they got like fucking phone banks of girls and shit, bro. How the fuck you got my number? Like what the fuck? This is when I first kind of moved to LA.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Right. And like, you know, I don't know this shit. I'm like, oh my God, Chris Brown's calling me. Like, so I'm with my girl. And I'm like, Chris Brown just called me, my girl Jimaia. And she's like, shit, what does he want? I'm like, I don't know. He just sent him his address.
Starting point is 00:29:34 He's like, pull up. We're in the studio. We vibe in. So of course, that's how they lure you in. The studio, we vibe. That's how they lure you in. Mental note. I'm going to say that one day.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah, no, it's how they lure you in. It's like, oh, yeah, they try to lure me in because they know I do music. So they're like, oh, come do music. And then I'm like, okay, let's do it. You know, I'm excited. I'm about to get this feature. We're about to get off, you know? No, it's not that.
Starting point is 00:29:55 You know what I mean? You pull up and it's really not that vibe at all. No, as a woman, you need like fucking five barriers between you and these motherfuckers sometimes. You know what I mean? Because you need the plug to just take care of it and talk to my people. Because at that point, sometimes if not, it becomes too, you know, mixing. So I, I do. get there and it was fucking dope. This first
Starting point is 00:30:13 experience was like dope. It was like Tiana Taylor was in the room and E.J. and all these people and it was just a vibe. Like everyone was just viving. Okay. So I'm expecting. So the next a couple days later he's like, pull up. Like, you know, we're whatever. So it's like one p.m.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Do we have tea? This is tea. It's not hot enough. She's spilling tea for the record. Yeah. The tea. See, I know. I know, right? I'm a fucking disco girl. I know what to say, bro.
Starting point is 00:30:46 What? We only got coffee, I think. We got sugar-free Red Bull. I know, I have that too. So then, you know, I pull up like a couple days later and shit, and like, it was not the same experience. Right. So it was just like, what the fuck is going on? I'm with my same girl, and she's just like, and by the way, I decided to go, like, covered from head to toe.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Because I'm just like, I swear to God, because I was like, I don't want him getting the wrong. Full veil or what? Yeah, like, I was worried about to wear the hijab. You did? But I did it and I just like, you know, full covered, covered. Like long sleeves, pants and shit, shit that I'm always like showing some skin, but I was just like, no. I mean, I think that's smart, honestly.
Starting point is 00:31:26 If you're pulling up and you're trying to make it really clear. Yeah, like I really was. I was very adamant about that. This time when we pull up, there's a few of the dudes, you know, his homies and shit, who I didn't like their energy at all. And I'm on energy person, you know? So I'm just like, what is this energy? like you're negative all these negative guys around him and like they're like oh we need your phones and
Starting point is 00:31:46 I'm like why we were just here like a couple days ago and I had my phone in my fucking hand the whole time I didn't do shit I don't give a fuck what the fuck I'm not doing that like I'm not giving you my phone that's not happening I refuse to give my phone up like all the time you ask me to get my phone up I'm out I don't get a fuck I'm not doing this because if anything going to pop off go down like I need my phone with me I need to call my shoot right away it is so fucking weird how that shit has become so normal. Like sometimes I'll have my girl with me and we'll be like going to hang out with some rappers and shit and like she'll at some point realize she's the only one who still got her phone. Yeah. Because it's like she's with me so she's allowed to have her phone but all the other
Starting point is 00:32:18 girls are not allowed to have their phone. That's such a weird double standard. And that's the thing. That's the fucking thing. And that's what like even like recently my girl was like talking to one of trippy's people or whatever. So she's like pull up to the studio and I literally they were like, oh give it your phone. And I was like no, I'm out. And once I did that like I don't know. I don't know. Like I was like, no, I'm out. And they let me keep my phone. Because I was like, I'm leaving. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:32:40 I don't need to be here. I don't give a fuck. Like once you, that vibe, they're like, oh, okay, you're cool. But like, once you, if you give that vibe of like, oh, no, like, okay, here you go. Like, they don't respect you. And you're going to fucking respect me or else I'm out. I don't give a fuck. It is crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:53 I'm a fighter. So I'll fight. Because the shit that you're describing of like mansion parties and shit would just Coke everywhere and naked bitches and shit. It's like if everybody had their phones, bro, that shit would be leaking all over the place. That should be leaking everywhere. Yeah. And you know, I mean, thank you, baby.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Thanks, Laura. But yeah, I mean, I just feel like, wait, what? Is it good? Wait, what's wrong? Is it okay? No, I know, but it's cold. It's cold. I need so hot.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Wow. Yeah, so it's just, yeah, it's a lot. And, you know, for me, like, I'm not, like, I smell weed and shit, but I'm not, like, into, you know, like I don't really like all that shit, you know what I mean? I've dabbled, but I don't like it. The Coke thing is, yeah, you don't want to make that a lifestyle. I think it's very overrated, bro. I really do.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I'm sorry, but, like, maybe the MS thing was like a blessing in disguise for me because of that and my treatment and shit, they check my blood every couple of few months. So it's super important that you stay healthy now because of this? Yeah, super important, and I'm so healthy. So because of that, it's like, you know, of course, it's L.A. Like, I've literally been, you know, you'll be with someone and then all of a sudden you find like they're like hiding the fact that they're doing on this coke for me like it's so sad and i and i feel like when you do coke you find out everyone who's doing coke because they end up offering it to you
Starting point is 00:34:11 and if you don't do it then motherfuckers keep it super secret and now i'm back in the position where i haven't done coke in so many years that it's like now i don't fucking know laura are you doing coke i don't know laura no she said no okay um but you know just in general it's like i but to me i just don't understand that mentality because yes it feels good yes it's crazy it's fun it's just not worth what comes afterwards it's like i would way rather be steady and and feel good all the time than like have these crazy spikes in my enjoyment level that are followed by these massive fall period and in l.A it's kind of like scary because it's like you'll think you'll know someone completely know them like i literally like you friends or people whatever whatever you know
Starting point is 00:34:56 and then it's like you find out that they do heavy amounts of coke And you're like, how did I not know this? Like, how did I not pick up on this shit? But yeah, you've been staying up so 6 a.m. every day. And yeah, you've been doing this. Okay, yeah, it makes sense. Like, you know, because how the fuck can you do that? You know, every day?
Starting point is 00:35:12 I just did the interview with Maud's son. And he basically just stopped doing Coke after doing it every day for like six, seven years, whatever. And that was kind of what I said is like, bro, I always thought that you just had mad energy and were always down to be at the club at four in the morning or whatever. And I thought I'm just an old man. I was just like, I just don't want a party of that hard. Oh, you're on.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Oh, yeah, co-cats. I should have known. But I'm like a grown-house man and it still doesn't always just, you know, because if you don't see somebody doing it, you don't see the evidence right in front of your face. Like he was hiding it from his girlfriend. Yeah. No, fact. His friends, you know. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Yeah. A lot of people will just literally, like, completely hide it and just put on this whole persona. And it's like, fuck. Like, I did not know. But now I'm trying to get really, I'm trying to get like, like, you know how people have their gator or whatever the fuck they say. I'm just trying to have that radar with Coke heads. Because, yeah, you know, because it's just like, even when you're Coke Dar, you think, it's like even when you're fucking friends with someone and then you find out, damn, you're doing all this Coke.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Like, fuck. Like, this is not good, you know? Because then they become wishy-washy and indecisive and all over the place. It's funny that you're more like that with like Coke, though, because I feel like I am more likely to have friends who just get really into perks or lean or Zanz. And then they start getting all weird. I've had so many friends over the years that just one. day all of a sudden they're just perk the fuck out and they're just a different person yeah and i could see i could see that more than i see the coke thing i don't get i think coke is overrated but i could
Starting point is 00:36:39 see where like you know like painkillers and shit like i can't get you know i like that shit yeah like yeah like you know what i mean like even zan's like it just chills you the fuck out like and when like i'm a high strong high fucking energy type person so that's why i've had a problem with that shit in the past because when you have a lot of fucking energy and shit and you sort of get into that pattern of using that shit to chill you out that's what I got fucking into a little bit. I mean for me if it wasn't again for the MSing my treatment and shit like with Zanz like I slowly was just like okay I like this and then that's when it was like uh stop right now like you know I was like I'm gonna go get a prescription for it because I can but then it was
Starting point is 00:37:17 just like no you're not like you know. Every girl can get a prescription for it was a scary part like so many chicks in LA Everyone can get prescriptions like that, which is sad. But it's like you don't even know what you're going to be doing. And then I've seen what happens to people. So then I have to keep them in mind. You know, like close friends that, yeah, like go on this slippery slope of like, you know, even one of my good friends, like my best, one of my best friends, like he takes Adderall like every day.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Right. But he has prescriptions. But it's just still like I'm like, you know this is not okay, you know. And that's where I remember a few years ago I had a girlfriend and like she goes to the doctor because she was like depressed because she hated her job and she felt like her life was pointless. She goes to the doctor and the doctor ends up giving her Xanax, but she's like a fucking regular ass chick so she didn't know about what Zanz were like. And I'm like, yo.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And then you find out like you're up. Yeah. I'm like, listen, I'm like, I know mad people that are super fucked up off this shit. So I'm literally in a position where I'm giving her better advice than the doctor was. I mean, the doctor will just be like even for me. Who the fuck am I? Even for me like being with the MS shit and everything, like the doctor will be like, Oh, well, do you want this?
Starting point is 00:38:21 And do you want this? Like, oh, I'm having mood swings. Oh, well, let's put you on a mood stabilizer. Oh, I'm having this. Oh, well, let's put you on it. Like, no, what the fuck? I'm already out of having medication. You're fucking me up here, you know.
Starting point is 00:38:30 That's crazy. Because they just, you know, you know how it goes. How did you end up working with P&B rock? That was more recent after the whole Fettywap saga? Yeah, PMB is like one of my favorite people. Like, I love him. He's amazing. Great guy.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I saw him in the airport the other day. He's amazing. He really is an amazing artist and an amazing person. Like we just did a show Together in like Philly And you know his date And like Then afterwards I was like
Starting point is 00:38:55 Yo Like I need to get you on a record right now Let's go to studio So we went to the studio that night And he cut it that night And it was just like he didn't ask for nothing Like he literally He showed up to the video shoot
Starting point is 00:39:06 Didn't ask for anything He didn't pay him anything Like he just did it off the strength And it was like wow That's dope Yeah like he was like now Like it was like right before he started blowing up too Oh really?
Starting point is 00:39:16 Yeah like we had both of us had way less of a following and stuff when we did it. Oh, so it was like three, four years ago before he started going crazy? Probably like two, one and a half, you know? Because I feel like in the last year, he's really started going crazy, in my opinion, I think. Maybe like a year and a half, I think. I don't know. I would be interested to see.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I feel like he's had like a pretty strong three, four years. Yeah. I feel like I interviewed him like almost four years ago. Yeah, he was already hot. Like we were both already hot, but he was like really blown up to me, I think. I think. No, that's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:45 So, um, and then, um, yeah, like, we just always like, we always had a great vibe. Like, you know, and then the other day even he hit me up, he's like, we got to make another hit, you know, and I'm like, yeah, let's do it. I'm ready. Let's start it. Yeah, yeah, he's, he's the best. Like, I think, and talent wise, like, he's super talented, you know, because it sucks when you're like, oh, this guy got to redo his verse.
Starting point is 00:40:06 But with him, it's like, yo, he got in there. He wrote his whole shit. Right. You know, he wrote that whole shit. I saw him with my own two eyes. The fact that you made fucking Lilzanne rewrite a verse, that's some legendary shit. We're going to be talking about that for years to come. I wonder if he's going to react.
Starting point is 00:40:20 You think he's going to be on the story, sad? I mean, that's like more worth it if that's what happens. Oh, shit. I mean, I had to. It was just like, oh, we can't put this out, you know. Yeah, I mean, he has a tendency sometimes when he raps to just sort of like trail off and get a little too mumbly. Yeah, and I just, initially, like, it was just like, you know, I just didn't like, I just feel like it was like mediocre and I just like don't like mediocre shit.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Like if we're going to do this, we're going to do it right or we're just not going to do it, you know. That's the attitude. How did you meet Tray Songs? What's your Tray Song story? Oh my God. I don't know what the fuck just happened. A couple weeks ago we were at the club. I was doing this hosting somewhere.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And like, um, all of a sudden like he was asking about me in the front and I'd never fucking met him. So I was like, what? That's a Tray Song's move. You asked the club staff about the girls that you think are cute in the club? He came to the club and literally was like, hey, where's I-Nez? And he knew I was hosting that night or whatever. So he came and was like asking the people in the front, bring me to her right now. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:20 And it was weird because I never met him. So I was like, why? She probably told me about that. He's doing work. He's like just straight up doing research, seeking out women that he hasn't had sex with since he's had sex with such a large percentage of them. Yeah. And it's like for me, I just feel like, okay, listen, homie.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Like I'm cool. Like come to the section. It's fine. But then the whole thing was so weird Because he came to my section Like literally was just like saw that I had a lot of people My section too many people didn't really like it So asked for his own section
Starting point is 00:41:51 And I was like okay whatever And then like when I left Because I went to leave and I had like a green hair at the time I don't know I was going crazy with a green hair Respect And then he like literally followed me out But did not like I feel like every time he tried to like talk to me
Starting point is 00:42:07 Or say hi to me or something there was always someone with me or there was always some you know what I mean and you know when like how dudes are when they see a guy with you like it was probably security guard or fucking manager or someone you know my video guy or something but he's thinking oh you know so I think he just was like a little weird and he just like didn't say hi to me he was like he was like a shy boy I was like what's going on like I'm so I was so confused and I was like I was asking everyone around me like am I going crazy or was like did he just follow me out and just come to the and just come to the section and just like why yeah and like I don't know
Starting point is 00:42:38 No, I still haven't figured it out. Holy shit. Yeah. It's just weird. That is weird. Just coming to the club asking for someone and then just like, you know, and then not coming and then not talking to them much or like, you know what I mean? I love the Trace songs meme that he's basically just like following Jordan Woods and Meg around
Starting point is 00:42:53 all their club performances. Do you believe that? He just does that. He just does it. It's a thing. I'm sure. I'm sure. The idea of it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:01 It's like just so often when I talk to a random girl on this podcast, they just have like a Tray song's story. And I'm like, damn, I feel bad for him because like him. want and pussy is becoming a meme. But my thing is, like, I feel like nowadays, it's so much more respectable to be with one woman. And you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:18 It's respectable. Like, for me, I don't like guys like that. Like, I don't care. Like, you fuck too many girls, and we all know about it. And it's like, I just, now that I'm like, you know, I'm not young and naive in the industry anymore. I know what the fuck is going on. So it would be like, no, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Like, the way guys look at girls, like, she's ran through. You know what I mean, that's how we look at a lot of guys nowadays too. Like, he's ran through. I mean, yeah, and not even like the idea that it's gross, but so much is that like if a guy seems like they're dedicating their entire life. To getting pussy instead of getting money. You know, I've known so many dudes like that in my life.
Starting point is 00:43:54 And when I really think about it, it's like I feel lucky that I've been in a relationship for three years because the whole part of my life where I was like pretty well known and getting money, I've been in a relationship. Right. So I've been kind of like shielded from that because a lot of these guys, they start getting money and then they just sort of like base their entire life around fucking as many new girls as possible. It's so fucking honestly, it's so respectable, especially when your bitch is bad and and you're letting her be do her thing.
Starting point is 00:44:19 That's so dope. Like that's what girls nowadays, that's what what the fuck we want. We don't want a guy that's been with everybody or that's every week in a new relationship or you know what I mean? Like we just don't want that. Yeah. Like I don't fucking want that. Like you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:32 Like I don't want that because I'm just like, no, like I'm not getting ran through right now. So why the fuck are you getting ran through? Like, that's not cool. It's kind of funny, though, because now everybody just assumes the worst of each other. Like, if I were single and I were going to the club and I met some random hot girl in the club, in my mind, she fucked 18 dudes this week. Like, I'm just assuming the worst because I know chicks that are like that. So it makes me feel like everybody's like that, you know?
Starting point is 00:44:58 Yeah. Yeah. But you know what, though? What I've learned, I'm not going to lie. Like, it's like that whole saying, if they walk like a duck, talk like a duck, it's a fucking duck. And that's my whole thing. Like, if you act like a hoe. and you're moving like a hoe, you're a ho.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I don't care. And it's power to you. Go be a hoe. Go be a hoe over there. But there's a lot of girls I know who are like that. They're private snaps checks, porn stars, whatever, and they're super open and honest about the fact that they're like that. But then I also like sometimes she'll be like talking to a girl and she seems super sweet and
Starting point is 00:45:25 nice or whatever. And then you end up in the club with her and you realize this bitch knows everybody. And it's scary when they know everyone because like, why do you know everyone? You know, and it's sort of like just makes you a little curious. Like, how much time are you really spending in this fucking person? No, you know what? It's a fact. And I'm not even going to lie to you.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I'd rather fucking meet. Like, you know, it's like nowadays, if you're meeting, like, even with him, like, we meet at the club, like, ugh. Like, you know, that's so like, I don't want that. Like, you know, like, come on. Because it's just like, if we're going for a bag, then yes. If we're going to get money, then yes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:58 But other than that, it's like. You ever been on a dating site? No. I've never tried it. Like, okay, so two years ago. after all this shit happened, right? Like I had like this woman in my life who was like super older than me and she was like, you have to start being smarter.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Like you need you can't do this like being stupid thing. Like you have to be smarter than this. So she was like trying to like get me to like go on seeking arrangements and shit. So I was like, okay, you make me a count and you do that. I'm not doing shit. I don't want to do shit. Right. But I just never followed through with anyone and I just couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Seeking arrangements like you were going to try to do the sugar daddy type thing? And I couldn't do it. Like she was like, oh, this guy, he's 30 something, 40 something. And I'm like, I can't. I just, I'm sorry. I just can't do it. Like, I just can't. So I would just blow them all off.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Everyone's getting mad. And I was like, just take down my account because I just am never going to do it. I, like, I want to be open-minded to that shit. But the truth is it just weirds me out so bad. It weirds me out so much. And you know, the thing about it is I know it's a thing in L.A. And it was a thing that I became used to in L.A. Because everyone does that.
Starting point is 00:47:03 And all these girls are like, most girls my age are, like, doing shit like that. you know but i'm like i have an actual like fucking name i'm building for myself so it's like that's not a good look i don't that's not my narrative you know what i mean that's not what the fuck i'm selling that's not my narrative like i'm not going to be like yeah like fuck the sugar daddy's for money no bitch yeah but that's the crazy shit too is that chicks now sorry but no chicks now talk about it like they're hyped on it they're proud of it which is like it's it's kind of cool to see them like empowered yeah and i and i it's it's all that's all nice and shit but here's the reality of the situation.
Starting point is 00:47:37 They are degrading women, period, and then just like paying them off and they treat women like shit most of the time. Like, and I saw the other day, like, young Miami, like, I love her. She's amazing. And I saw her say that with her boyfriend and shit. And it's like, oh, my sugar daddy. Like, no, he's your boyfriend. He's your, damn near your husband.
Starting point is 00:47:55 You just had a baby with him. But she called him her sugar daddy? Yeah. Oh, God. She posted that and was like, my sugar daddy. And I think that that's awesome for you to call him that. But that's what the girls are like, oh, yeah, she's like, go. you sugar daddy and that's what girls are going to start doing and I just feel like no I don't want that
Starting point is 00:48:11 like I don't want a sugar daddy like I want a man who's gonna we are equal we take care of each other and you do shit for me I do shit for you then you can actually build something where you're on my equal footing like I fucking love what Kim and Kanye are doing they're fucking dope like that is dope you know what I mean like that's her fucking husband and he's like that's my wife like that's hot you know what I Yeah, that's hot. That's hot. Not like, oh, my sugar daddy. No.
Starting point is 00:48:36 No, because most of the time, the reality of it is, most of the time in L.A., if a girl says she has the sugar daddy, he's 60, 70 years fucking old. And it's disgusting. And it's like, think about that. Like, you're losing your youth to this old man just for money that tomorrow he can take away from you. Like, no, I'm not into that shit. I think because I come from, like, a strong, independent woman, my mom has never been on that shit. And I think that, you know, it's the opposite.
Starting point is 00:49:00 I've had to do with different shit. like not being not taking care my whatever the fuck it is but at least i'm not like degrading myself you know what i mean for money like i don't that's not my shit that's not my narrative like selling your body and shit for money power to you if you're doing that i'm not taking away from the girls who do that i just don't like that shit yeah like honestly it doesn't weird me out girls who are like doing the private snapchat thing you know that doesn't wear me out yeah go get your money yeah but but fucking somebody or just a guy just no i just i can't i got a lot i got to like you. I got to be a synergy there
Starting point is 00:49:33 like something. You know, and it's like I kind of respect chicks to do it because if you can do that and it doesn't bother you. And you're getting your money. Listen, I know girls who are younger than me even who are getting a lot of money from doing this shit. A lot. And I'm like, listen, I power to you, but then I can't be friends with you. Because yeah, I've had a lot of girls in L.A. that I like I'll fuck with and I like fuck with the girl. Like she's dope as fuck.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Yeah. Yeah, but then it's like you find out she's doing that and it's like, I can't be friends with you because then people are going to think that I do that and I don't. You know, You know what I mean? So it's like, you know, there's a lot of weird shit out here that's going on. My advice, so these girls making money off fucking old man is put it in the fucking bank and don't spend it all on purses. Yeah, period. At least invest in some shit.
Starting point is 00:50:14 You know? Because like if you need to do that when you're young to run up a bag to maybe be able to do something else with your life, I respect that more than you thinking like, oh, I'm going to fucking bang dudes till I'm 49 years old or some shit. Yeah, I don't know. Because then also it's just like, you know, they just like the way to dispose of the woman get away. Like you lost your youth, you lost your beauty. And it's like, we're so much more than that. So I don't like that shit. I respect that a lot.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Yeah, I don't like that. What do you have in the works in terms of new shit coming out musically or projects? Or what are you working on? Yeah, I'm working on my project. I'm working on an EP right now. And, I mean, I think that we have, right now we have a little Zan on it, K-Camp, and potentially another song with P&B is in the works. Like, we've been talking about it, you know?
Starting point is 00:50:58 So, like, right now it's just like for me, like, I, now that I'm out of this deal, I'm just putting out music again and just like getting like, just my shit out there. Because I was like working on so much for so long and not able to drop. Right. So yeah, I just dropped my new single loka and that's like doing amazing. So I just like want to keep on just dropping. That's fine. Do you have like a diehard like young girl fan base for the most part?
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah. Like I have like, I love that. And I think like a lot of like definitely exotic girls and like girls that like look like me are always like, wow like you know you're doing it. Like, because, you know, being a Middle Eastern girl doing this is like not common. People are always so shocked when there's like Middle Eastern girls in like American spotlight. Yeah, exactly. I've seen that with my girl for sure. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:51:42 You know what I mean? And I think that that's, you know, nowadays it's like we're breaking barriers. You know what I mean? And it's important for us to be free and be able to do that. You know what I mean? Because I personally as a little girl, like, of course I love like Beyonce and Rihanna and all these. I love Lady Gaga, like all these huge stars. but at the same time it was like oh no one looks like me and that like sucks you know what I mean but it's like being middle eastern you know why because it's always like to try to like control you suppress you not let you do shit you know what I mean and for me I've always been like a very like oh like very empowered very like I'm going to do it I don't care you know I've always been that kind of girl so I think now it's like I've used it and I'm like I'm empowered and I feel powerful so I want to make other girls especially other people but especially girls feel that way because I mean that is how
Starting point is 00:52:30 happening now, but I also feel like over the next 10 years it's going to be fucking crazy to see how like women basically like rise up and like demand their rights and that's what's going on. And that's why it's important for, you know, I'm so adamant. And like I don't even like to even, you know, with the women who are doing that kind of stuff. I don't want it to be like, I don't like putting any woman down. So I don't want it to be like that. But my thing is, is like there's a lot of women right now that are going through a lot of suppression around the world and aren't allowed to even go outside of their house. And I think it's important to empower them and let them know that you are so very. valuable. You can do anything that you want. You don't need anyone. You don't need a man, a woman, nothing. You could do it. Anything you want to do, you can go out and you can do it, anything you want. So I think it's important to empower the woman as her own. Yeah. And that's what I really want to do. You know what I mean? Like as your own, on your own, you are fucking unstoppable, you know? So like, that's like so important to me. Because I think that, you know, I see, I know that there's, especially especially being like I'm Palestinian and there's so many girls, you know, in the Middle East that aren't allowed to do anything.
Starting point is 00:53:33 And they don't really, I mean, that shit is really fucked up because not only do they not really have like the role model like you necessarily who's telling them it's okay to have the attitude, but they're just really like not even allowed to do shit, to drive and shit in a lot of countries. That's crazy, bro. And I mean,
Starting point is 00:53:47 for me, it's like, I've always like been super like, because I was raised Muslim, right? And I just feel like I always saw the woman being treated as secondary. And I just have always been like, no about that.
Starting point is 00:54:00 You never, like, grew to think that was normal and acceptable? No, never, never. And I just, like, because my mom is a Christian convert. My mom is, her family's Christian. And, like, my mom was born in Bethlehem, like, where Jesus was born, like, crazy. Yeah, so she came from, like, the strict Christians. She was in, like, a nunnery. Like, you know, like, her parents wanted her to be a fucking nun.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Like, that was what my mom's experience was. But then she married a Muslim man. My father was Muslim, so, and my stepfather was Muslim. So it's, like, that whole, like, religious, that, it's just crazy. crazy that all the, what the religion does, you know. And my religion, I say is love. I just like want to just, I love love and I feel like God is love and I'm a spiritual person. I'm really religious. I'm spiritual. And I feel like with the whole like religion thing, they just like force these people to do these things that they don't want to do. And then it leads a lot of people to not being happy.
Starting point is 00:54:48 And I think that's a problem right now. Like so many people are unhappy. And it's like why. It's like the institution of religion has been fucked up. You know what I mean? And I feel like the whole, I would go to the mosque every Friday and my stepfather was teaching the religion who's a big hypocrite so that was a lot and you know what I mean real shit so that was like what the fuck and then going to the mosque and seeing like women being treated like badly was or in some places was hard for me to watch right so I just feel like I would just be like no I don't like this and I think the religion is beautiful I think the way that a lot of people interpret it is what's fucked up you know yeah and how they what they decide to teach and you know like I have my like little baby cousin who was like 10 was like I can't wear no
Starting point is 00:55:28 it's a sin. I'm like, girl, like, I hate that they're teaching you this. Like, I hate that this is what they're teaching you. Instead of being how to be a good person and what to do to be happy and be successful, they're teaching you, oh, you can't wear a nope. Get the fuck out of here. No, we're not doing that. The crazy thing about it, though, is that, like, religions can and do change over time. Because when I think about the version of Christianity that, like, my grandparents had, it was so goddamn strict versus, like, the version of Christianity that most people I know have now. It's just basically like, hey, peace of love, be nice to everybody, right, rah, right. Whereas like, you know, I feel like, like, Islam is kind of like especially resistant
Starting point is 00:56:06 to that, though, that they don't want to just like turn it over and allow it to just become like everything else. Because like Christianity these days basically sort of like reaffirms our mainstream culture. Just like, be nice and like buy stuff and sit on your couch and watch TV. They sort of like washed away any sort of like negative. thing that might be associated with the religion in general. Like, oh, don't take that literally. Right, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And I have, like, a lot of friends, too, who are, like, born and raised Christian, and they're, like, super about Christianity and Jesus. And then I have other ones who are, like, anti-Christianity. Like, it just, I feel like depends on their experience. And for me, like, my experience was just, like, I loved the religions. I loved all of that. I just hated the way they were treating, especially women. And I was like, no, this is not it.
Starting point is 00:56:52 And I don't like this. And I don't like this. And I don't respect this. I don't want this, you know? You get a lot of blood. low back from having the boss to say that as a Muslim moment? I feel like now that I am like, I feel like a lot of people support it more than they go against it.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Like, you know, even though I was like raised Muslim, I don't identify with Islam. I just identify with like just being love, you know, and just being a spiritual person. And I feel like, you know, it's about spirituality connecting with your spirit, your soul. You know what I mean? And when I was practicing Islam, I didn't connect with myself. I didn't feel anything, you know? and I would like do the prayer five times a day and I just didn't feel shit.
Starting point is 00:57:28 And like it was a, I was going to Christian, like Catholic school and I didn't feel shit either there at mass and shit. I didn't feel anything. I did a lot of praying. Yeah. I never really felt anything. You didn't feel shit.
Starting point is 00:57:36 You didn't feel shit. You know what I mean? And then like when I started doing like, you know, practicing spirituality and just talking to God and just connecting with myself and, you know, like I'm a yogi.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I love yoga. I love boxing and shit too, but I love yoga. And like I just really love connecting. Like I love connecting myself, connecting with other people. Like I love it. I love connection.
Starting point is 00:57:54 And I just want to feel connected. And I feel like a lot of the time you might practice this religion, but not feel connected. You know what I mean? And I sat there and I will read the books just to read and learn what I want to learn, you know? Because I think like when you learn, you earn, you know what I mean? And that adds to your earnings, which is great. And I love learning. But it's like I don't like a lot of the way the people do their shit or interpret it or the way they teach it.
Starting point is 00:58:19 And especially the way like, you know, they treat people because of it. And like I'll sit there like I right now I'll go to like you know I've tried like mosaic and like you know one church and like all these churches out here. I love those. They're like just fun. They're just fun. You know, they're not really religious. They're not religious. They're fun.
Starting point is 00:58:36 They're nice. It's nice. It's like that thing. It's like what you said like positive affirmation. They're designed to make people want to go to church by like stripping away all the not fun shit. Exactly. When I think about my childhood Sundays for me, we're just dreading having to go sit on these fucking wooden benches and just how all these. Or get on your knees and shit
Starting point is 00:58:54 And you're like, I don't want to It's like Sunday I've been in school all week This is the last thing I want to do Yeah, period It felt so wrong to me as a kid Exactly, it does It feels like what's going on
Starting point is 00:59:03 And that's the thing It's that I like those places And my girl is Korean So I went to a Korean church You know what I mean? Like you know I'll go to like you know All kinds of churches
Starting point is 00:59:11 We're singing their asses off And I love the experiences You know Like I'm inside As long as I feel something I'm down you know But if I don't feel shit Nah I can't
Starting point is 00:59:20 Maybe I should probably just go to like a black church because I feel like I would like the vibes. It's so fun. They're saying their asses off. You know, like I feel like I would like the music. Yeah. And I would like the vibes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:30 But then it would be really funny because everybody would be like, look at Adam joining a black church. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But you know what? That's how I fell in the Korean church too. Because I was in a fucking Korean church. The only non-Korean.
Starting point is 00:59:41 And because now it's really cool to be Korean. K-pop taken over the world. You know, it's like, look how bad Adam wants to be hip-hop. Exactly. Look how bad he wants to be Korean. They'll never say shit like that. But it's like, what the fuck. But it's,
Starting point is 00:59:52 It's like, I just want to experience this. But if you drop a K-pop album. I went to a church in fucking Compton. I'm not going to lie to you. And it was fucking epic. See, that is what I feel like I would fuck. Yeah, it was so epic. Like, it's just like it's an experience.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Like, you know, and they have food after and like, you know, same thing with the, and a lot of cultural churches like that are like, super about food after and I love to eat. If there's any churches in Compton that want to have us out, we'd be happy to come through. Yeah. I don't know if we'd be accepted or not. Hell yeah, we would. They'd be like, well, we lit. I got to bring some of my guys with me for sure.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Yeah. Facts. Yeah. Just to make sure that everybody knows. Like, I'm crossing my face, but I come in peace, man.
Starting point is 01:00:31 I know. Right. Facts. All right. Hey, I appreciate you coming on so much. I appreciate you so much. I fucking love watching you.
Starting point is 01:00:37 I'm always watching. So I appreciate that. That's amazing. I'm going to tell my girlfriend to watch this one. Yeah. Yeah. I fuck with your girlfriend. She's the shit.
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