No Jumper - The Jack Thriller Interview: Why ThisIs50 Didn't Work, Falling Out With Lil Duval & Brian Pumper

Episode Date: September 28, 2020

Jack Thriller talks about his career, starting with Lil Duval, working with Brian Pumper, Thisis50 and more! https://www.instagram.com/jackthriller/ ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, the coolest podcast in the world. And today I am in here with hip hop royalty, legend in the game. Overall, dirtbag. True. It's all true. All true? It's all true. Jack Thriller is in the building.

Let's get it, baby. Let's get it. No jumper, man. How are you feeling? Yo, I'm happy. I'm overjoyed like Stevie Wonder. You know, I'm on your show. This is that new hot shit with thoughts.

you know what I'm saying the brand new rappers people that we don't even know exists but you do you're on the post of the coach you and I'm trying to get on that side of the fence bro right I mean I'm I'm overjoyed

we gotta get you a little only fans girl not too low if you don't mind if you don't mind I love me a good only fans girl this is one that I like right now honey I think it's another name is like Periphani or some shit like that See there's 10 billion of them so I have no idea

who you're talking about yeah there's a lot of she's so busty Really? Oh yeah, she's high. You're a titty guy? I'm more of an ass dude, but she got some big ass juicy tities. I'm talking about the ones that make you want to beg for buttermil. Come on.

It'd be like that sometimes. But see, this is the thing about you that I find very interesting. You, you as a horny guy. Very horny. Oh, me so horny. Oh, me so horny. You met. Me fuck you a short time.

When I met you in New York, I was with some of my other employees and you guys became friends on Instagram or got each other's numbers or whatever. And one of them is just in the back of the cab and he just goes, bro why is Jack Thriller sending me mad pictures of bitches? Oh, that was an accident, man. You met the homie and you just started sending them pictures of hot

girls right away. Hey man, I was trying to, you know what I'm saying? He was new in town and I was trying to see if he was trying to get some self-service over here. Well, we were looking at it's like it doesn't even seem like Jack knows who these girls are or anything. It looks like these are just pictures that he found out of a straight stunt magazine or some shit. It's something of

be like that and I know a couple of them too I know a couple of them too man we're friends yeah because I got girls you're a horny guy man that's all I'm saying I've been doing I'm working on my Brian pumper documentary I swear you and him cut from the same cloth hold on time about you so

you really gonna do a brown pumper documentary it's really just a 35 minute YouTube video but it goes pretty in depth okay okay yeah talking about as much as honestly if I reached out to people who knew him in their private life yeah I would be able to make it a lot more comprehensive because like just the other day I met a

porno dude who told me that his friend slapped the shit out of Brian Pumper and I was just like oh damn that's a whole story but I don't want to get into like unreleased news for this video I'm gonna stick to shit that's like already been on World Star. Bro let me hold on I think you should make him a little lifetime movie though

he has so many different layers so many different stories and that him getting the hell slapped out of him I'm pretty sure that that's not the coup de grace of Brian Pumper's No. Yeah, yeah.

But you used to be a shooter. That's how you came in the game, right? Yeah, yeah. I used to be a shooter for Brian Pumper and whatnot. You know what I'm saying? I used to be body guard. I was also, you know, just part of the entourage and whatnot. It's been plenty of times where people tried to fight him.

And I let him. But how did you meet him? Because, I mean, there's so much to the story. But we were getting into how Jack Della came in the game in the first place. But how did you meet him and how did you end up working with him and shooting people for him? Which is just a job. joke, by the way, in case anyone... No, I shot a couple of people for him.

I definitely shot it. Yeah, definitely because they was going to kill me for being with him. So I had to end up, he ended up got like default killings and the vengeance. Right. Yeah, yeah. Because my life was in danger. Well, you know what's crazy, though, is that the other day I'm talking to like an older gangster type guy out here, the street dude.

And I was like... Y'all got a lot of him. Infinite. And I mentioned Brian Pumper, and he was like, I'm going to tell you something. Brian Pumper back in the day, he had all the bad. bitches. That is not what it looks like on his Instagram now. No. But at a certain point, he was running shit.

Yeah, yeah. He don't like to work hard when it comes to you know catching hanging through, low hanging fruit and whatnot. He doesn't like to work hard. And I'm on that type of time too, but I got

a little bit more standards than him because he pepiping hose. Right. That's not what I do. I'm fucking people with pusses. Right. You know what I'm saying? So in the process of doing that, you know, I like who like me, but it's got to be somebody that make my dangling happy.

But that's so true that, like, as men, there's a lot of different ways you could go about it. Yeah. You could just be. I know some guys who they got no interest in low-hanging fruit. Yeah. They only go to the top of the tree, the top of the pyramid. They only want the Nikki Minaj, the Beyonce, you know? I was never that.

Me neither. Anybody at the bar, basically any person in there who's a woman that's going down. Yeah. There's some good old heterosexual sex.

Yeah. You know, me and my man Gabriel Hart, we was talking about that yesterday and everything, just the low-hanging fruit. If it's easy,

you're going to have some problems. Yeah. You know, in the long run, you're going to have some problems, a lot of broke-ass problems and stuff that come along

with the low-hanging fruit. And if you really don't like them like that, I really wouldn't trade. my time off to be like having to hang out with a bitch that you don't like for a weekend a week it's hell bro yeah it's hell have you ever flew a bitch in and shit like for the weekend and shit and then you didn't like a after about a good two hours oh yeah back in the day but the thing that has changed for me is that my temperament for what I can deal with as a person is so much smaller

now that if like if there was a girl in my house that was annoying me it would just it would be I'd be like, you gotta go. Like, I can't do this. Like, you're annoying. Like, I gotta go. Yes. But back in the day, I would deal with all kinds of crazy shit. All kind of, what's the most craziest shit you dealt with?

What you wouldn't normally do? Um, you wouldn't do that shit now. The year was 2005. I had an all white brand new diplomat shirt. 40 bucks maybe on Canal Street or some shit like that. Brand new diplomat shirt. I know you knew, but I had the, I had the diplomat shirt. Yeah.

Kicking it with this girl. Bitch just, we're at the, at the, the, the corner store. she's getting a hot dog and I like said something that pissed her off she just sprays me with the ketchup all over my brand new shirt and what did you do I was in disbelief I just couldn't I tried to leave her and go back to my house and she ends up following me back to the house she's like begging me for my forgiveness and shit then we get back up into the crib right we start hooking up she at this point I'm like in my head I'm like I can't believe I'm even hooking up with this girl after she just did this to my brand new diplomat shirt I can't

leave it. I start, she fucking grabs my head, pushes it down to her pussy. I'm not one to say no, I start eating the pussy. Oh, you enjoy that. She comes. That's your pleasure. She's over it. It's over. I make her nut and she just immediately is like, oh, okay, yeah, like, I'm done.

I'm like, I'm not getting some top after this, even with the ketchup situation? Get the fuck. Oh, she used you for head. Crazy. And then, like, I'm out. And ruin my shirt, yeah. Get the fuck out of here. When I think about that now, I would have probably called somebody like,

yo, this girl, she got to die. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, you wouldn't have been wrong for it. Hey, listen, you know, it's pandemic going on right now. It's a lot of out-of-work hitman and everything. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of out-of-work hit-man. Yeah, yeah. The money's wrong, so they're suffering too.

Hit me and Jack up because we got a lot of work that we could offer you all. Most definitely. Your wisdom, most. What do you take for murders? for assassination, good old fashion head, how much would it take for you to do that? I pay about $2,500 for that.

That's a match. That's kind of like a going rate, though. I hear about people getting killed for $2,500 all the time. Yeah, yeah. Not like specifically, but I've heard, you know. But see, the problem is where you pay $2,500. You don't want a $2,500 on a body?

The $2,500 murder might come with somebody else getting shot, or the motherfucker's staying in town and whatnot. Turn around, go right to the cops, just tell them. Yeah. Yeah, like, you really need to know what I'm saying,

help your game when it comes to them professional hits and stuff. You know, unless you're killing homeless people. Oh, no. If you're killing homeless people, the investigation probably isn't going to be that crazy. But you know what? It's crazy. Like, real talk, like, I've known rappers that then I, like, went and, like, read about their court shit and stuff,

and that was, like, the smut on their name was that they had ordered murders and spent, like, $2,500 bucks on that shit. And, like, that just, chis me out where it's like, like, I could be living like that. Like, so somebody could just diss me on Twitter and I could, like, that, that's how they're living. Like, that's crazy. Yeah.

That is fucking nuts, man. Kind of crazy. Yeah, yeah. And then, man, I was just talking about this the other day. I'm kind of not, like, having a problem with getting that chip in me. Like, you know, when we get that vaccine and whatnot, I might take it for the chip. because what if I'm one of those people that's supposed to get murdered? But then they take my body off and whatnot

and then they want to chop it up or some shit like that. I want people to find my body. I don't want to be a missing body. So that's more my rationale behind taking the vaccine. No, I respect that. Yeah. Imagine that if they could figure out who killed who just because the microchips inside your body. Like you basically like record audio.

Your microchip was near his microchip during this time period. So it clearly was him. Yes. And that's how they figure it out. It's like like imagine when it gets to the point where all the government has all the information and they don't have to like, you know, try to piece shit together from a camera and all this stuff. No, it's like we're in the video game and they know exactly what happened in the video game. They can see it through your eyes. Truman Show shit. Exactly. Exactly. I think that's what we're going. I think that like in a hot 20 years, the world could be on some shit like that. Definitely. Definitely. I'm not I'm not afraid of the future. I'm open to it. Yeah, yeah. How do you feel right now? Like, you're in a really good position.

You live a comfortable life. How is the pandemic like, you know, fucking up a Adam 22? It hasn't really fucked me up. It was actually weird because I already was very much in the mind state of stay home, go to work, do your job, go home, kick it with the girl, because I have a baby on the way and everything. So, like, for me, you know, I've been very much like living the life of a man who's kind of staying around the crib, locked down.

I haven't been going at the parties. I haven't been going to bars. I haven't been going to clubs. I haven't been doing all that shit for like a couple years now. So it pretty much was like, oh, shit. Like now I get to stay in the crib and like kind of do the things that are more antisocial. I have plenty of antisocial hobbies. Go ride bikes with the homies because like a little social.

But, you know, you're only around a couple of your friends. You know, I play online poker, mega antisocial. So, like, you know, I have all these things that I could be doing in the crib that realistically are very fun. but then, you know, it's not me going backstage at Rolling Loud. Right. Which when I do that, really good for content for the vlogs. Good to meet people. Good to, like, you know, met a lot of cool people in situations like that,

but also a lot of stress associated with it because you don't know who the fuck you're going to run into. You don't know who got an issue with you. So it's like now I, I, and just the other day, like a week or two ago, I went to a skate park, probably took pitches with like 10 kids. And I just realized in my head, like, I haven't done this thing in a while. pulling up and taking a bunch of pictures and being like Mr. Cool guy. I haven't done it in six months

because of the pandemic. So is it like, did it feel like a new high when the kid, like the first time you had people to come up? Oh shit, Adam 22. Adam 22. Did it feel like that again? Did you get like, oh, they really love me?

They're really watching. They really fuck with me. It's nice, I guess. I'm kind of like just used to it at a certain point. Actually, more of my emotions are like up. We're not going to be able to be here too. long because you already you see them hopping on their phones and facetiming their homies and being like you better get down here right now these dudes are all here at the

skate park you're gonna pull up bring your album yeah bring yeah bring that little thing the little chip shit bring all of your shit right now at them 22 is it how hey let me ask you this question I love how this interview has been turned around on me pretty quickly you do you like that when people come up to you bringing their um they CDs and everything because oh no you you you people know you for breaking motherfuckers so I know you got it way worse than me. That would never work for me. Nobody's ever going to walk up to me and like hand me a CD or a USB drive just for the

record. Nobody would. Why not? No, they can. They can. They can try. It's not going to happen. Oh, you don't accept it and none of that.

I mean, I might take it throwing the trash 10 minutes later. No offense. It's just not. It's just way too much coming in for me to even think about like, oh, a CD. I'm going to listen to this. I'm like, are you fucking serious? I don't even a CD player. Where am I going to put that?

Yeah. Yeah. This is not happening. Yeah, that shit is weird as fuck when motherfuckers bringing them CDs, man. That's not. Like, did you get just got a DeLorean or something? Yeah, I feel you. You know, I know where you're going through.

But this is not. It's not going to go down like this. Right, right. All right. Let me interview you, motherfucker. You keep asking me questions. No, it's okay. I don't know what, there's a habit like a motherfucker, man.

I like it. No. All right. So where the fuck is Jack Thrill coming from? Man, I'm coming from Miami. That's where you started out. No. Oh, no.

I don't know. I'm from Decatur. Oh, okay. Born in Albany, Georgia, raised in Decatur, Georgia, in Dakota, Georgia in Atlanta. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Because I was saying, I'm like, oh, yeah, you ain't a New Yorker. No.

You're on Miami? I didn't think it was in Miami. No, I thought you were asking where I was yesterday. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you came from Miami to kick it with us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we're going to eat medicated pizza here on.

And it's medicated pizza right here. Let me just serve myself up a slap. If you don't mind. I got to throw one on here, bro. I made it myself. Did you really? Yes, I did. We're going to get more into this later, but what?

Tell me a little bit about this. This is Stone Pizza, man. It was created by my homeboy Chris Barrett. Three years ago, he used to do them high-profile dinners with lobster steak and all that and whatnot. But it's really expensive. So afterwards, you know, people would still be hungry, like two in the morning or some shit and whatnot. So that he would make some pizza. And it caught on.

It was cheaper. You know, it takes like $6 to make a pie. We medicate it and then we sell it for $60. So what is this equivalent to? Like, is this going to get me fucked up? Hey, it is 40 milligrams of marijuana inside each slice

and it is 320 in a whole pot. Significant but not like, I'm pretty sure I ate like a thousand milligram chocolate bar back in the day and almost died. So I think I'll be right. You're going to definitely be all right because you're a heavy weight. Big dope.

You smoke a lot of weed? No, I don't smoke at all. Really? But you fuck with the pizza? I'd be having insomnia. So medicated foods and edibles, they help me to go to sleep. Really? So this is a business that you just got associated with?

Yeah, associated with, man. Actually, this earlier this year and whatnot, and it's just taking off and, you know, I got a house now. I got with a jacuzzi, crazy backyard. No, Harlem. Oh, in Harlem? I'm in Harlem, man. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm in Sugar Hill, baby. Now hard to find. We throw parties there and everything. You know, pizza parties, I let the fans come over. eat pizza with me. To your house? To my house. You let your fans in your house. Yes, in the house. I let my influences. Like,

tomorrow I got a party with Vado. Vado, he's throwing a pizza party at my house. I'd eat some pizza with Vada. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a really cool dude. Yeah. Really, really, really cool dude. So, yeah, we, I throw like three or four parties a week at the crib. I've got the jacuzzi there.

The ladies, you know, busing out, you know what I'm saying? So you get money like that? You got a house? in Harlem with a jacuzzi and going parties, you sound rich as fuck. Yes, man. Nobody has a house in Harlem. Yes, Brownstone, baby. Yeah, Brownstone. Two-level, you know, watch and drive,

three bathrooms. You feel like you made it? Yeah, I feel like I made it. I got a hundred, it's screen TV and living room. What's the scummiest spot you've ever lived in in New York? Oh, shit. You was a Brownsville guy at one point or not? No, it was

always, um, I stay in a room. A room. Literally a room. Be like that. Yeah, yeah. And this shit didn't this

apartment that I lived in it was like seven flights of stairs and it was no elevator and I stayed on the seventh floor. It was equivalent to that scene where Eddie Murphy first get to New York and shit

and he said we're looking for very meagre accommodations. That's what my last apartment was looking like. Yeah, my man, Chris, yo, he, uh, he brought me part of this business, got me this house, man, changed my life, put all the money in my pocket.

That's a beautiful thing. Yeah, yeah. And yo, man, listen, I'm, I'm, I'm, getting my dick suck for pizza. Damn. For pizza, man. Sounds like a fair deal. Yeah, it's a fair deal. Because think about it, what do the women want to do? They want to get high and they want to eat. I didn't hit both in one stroke.

And then we got 12 products. We got canolies, brownies, cookies. garlic knots, sticky icky wings, gelados, yeah, sodas, yeah. It's good business to me

and you can just sell any product and you medicated. It's medicated. And I'm trying to bring out here to the West Coast. Right. You know what I'm saying?

I'm saying, I'm over in talks with Nick Cannon right now. Why do you go to Nick Cannon before you go to me? Like, you know? Listen. What is that? Listen,

I, I, we're talking. Hey, bro, I want to go with you too. What's up? Let's go. Well, I'll open the Melrose one. Nick Cannon can open one and I don't know Burbank where the hell he's at Yeah where I mean let's do it

That sound like a plan to me Like you got that weed hospital right Hey tell me about this Yeah Where fuck all right Give me your entry entry We'll talk more about that too in a moment But give me the entry point into the game

For Jack Thorough Like how do we know you as the this is a 50 guy How'd you get into that position? Oh okay well I've been doing And working towards getting in the industry since I'm 12 years old. I was in a gospel play

with rerun from what's happening. Really? Yeah, it was called A Wheel to Survive. And then later on, I hooked up with my man Gabriel Hart over there.

He's stand-up comic himself. He's also one of the biggest video directors in the world. He did Versace, Versace and Versace. My president is black. He's not the guy that you did the pizza thing with.

No. Oh, I thought that he was the guy you were going to bring out later and talk about the pizza because you told me that. Oh, okay. He's not here. He couldn't make it.

Whoops. Okay. Yeah, he was back. opening up a store in downtown Soho. Oh, okay, cool. Yeah, yeah, so he had to go back. So I'm alone today. And I ended up, I had to cook the food.

I want to sell medicated pizza. That's all I know. Yeah, that's what's up. Okay, but so you, did you already have the vision as a 12-year-old that you wanted to get in the game? When I was five, when I seen Michael Jackson, I didn't know exactly what I wanted to be, but I knew I wanted to be an entertainer. And I just want to be great. I want grown-ass men to fame. Jack!

Jack! Michael! Michael! You know, that's... I wanted that. I didn't know how to do it. What I was going to do, but my teacher used to say all the time that I'm funny. I'm a comedian.

I'm a comedian. I'm a comedian. And so, you know, when I end up dropping out of school in the ninth grade and whatnot, had to go get real jobs, I went to go to Phillips Arena to sing the Kings of Comedy. Right? At 12? No, no, this is at 17. I'm out of school.

That's a good introduction to the game, though, right there. Yes. That's what you on, Hart? Yes. I watch this. Because, you know, you see, Steve. Steve Harvey on the Steve Harvey show and whatnot. And to see him on stage, it was two different things from Mr. Hightower versus

dirty on stage. He was dirty. Then it was Ryan Cameron. He opened up for him. Ryan Cameron is one of the biggest DJs in Atlanta and whatnot. And I listened to him every day on the radio. And he was opening up for the Kings of Comedy. And Bernie Mac, Steve Harvey, D.L. Hughley, Cedric the entertainer.

And, you know, my man, Ryan Cameron was the... the opening act. I was like, oh, that's what I am. That's what I want to do. So I heard Chris Tucker had a comedy club, went to the Chris Tucker comedy club, went up there and did fairly well. Next time I bombed,

but I was like, this is the way I want to live my life. This is what I'm fixing to start doing. So I hooked up with my man, Gabriel, another cat named Food Stamp, and we was this comedy click, and we would go around telling jokes, man, until everybody knew our names. Right.

So you just started going hard on the comedy grind? Yes. Right. And then we started, we was the only skit game in comedy. What year was this? This is probably like, Gabe, like 2000? Gabriel. 2000, we got together and started doing skits?

Yeah, something like that. 2000. Yeah. So where were you putting them? Myspace? No, we was on DVD. You didn't have that yet. Yeah, I think MySpace had just came.

No, it was Black Planet. MySpace was about 2003, four. No. No, it wasn't none of that shit. 2004, yeah. It was just Napster, yeah, yeah. You were throwing it on Napster. No, no, no.

That was the era. Right. We would download shit off there and whatnot, and we was the only comedians in town that actually was doing sketches and selling them in the comedy clubs. Then this guy named Roland Powell, he got hip to it and whatnot. And he was like, yo, how y'all do this shit? And he hired my man Gabriel to do the DVD.

We wrote the skits for it, put it out, It's called That Boy Funny. Now this guy goes by his name. You probably heard of him, Little Duval. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, so he helped enter you in the game as well, right? Yes, yes, and he was doing his thing at the time, open up for Cedric to entertain and all kind of shit.

So, you know, me and him got cool and whatnot. He took me on the road, took me out of his wings, showed me how to be Jack Thriller. But at the time, my name was Honeybuns. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that name for you. Yeah, it's with a Z, though, because the Z make it masculine. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so you see what are masculine when you, HoneyBuns. Very hip-hop. to replace Ness with a Z. Yeah, exactly. You ever write the, the change to the E-tone A? That's lit too. I never tried that, but yeah, I should have fucked with that. I remember being a little kid, though,

looking at the back of the album covers and just being like, wow, like, there's a whole world of different spelling out there. Yeah. You know, that's how I found out about that. Yeah, and you know a lot of words. You definitely know a lot of words. I know a word or two.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got some words. So, you know, I started living with my comedy friends, gave and food stamp and whatnot and their mother boy Caesar and then you know sometimes I was being spending the night over at a little Duval house in and out for about 10 years so I was an opening act

um bodyguard yeah yeah just personal assistant pay my dues you were holding it down at that time you still feel like you could be a bodyguard or you feel like it made more sense for you at that time were you looking to like intimidating I mean you're a big guy yeah I'm I'm a big guy now but I'm

I look too friendly back in the day I look fucking I was jacked up And I was like a lot more crazy It's about the demeanor too Because it's like now you give off a very fun Positive body If you want to be a bodyguard You got to be very much more

Stoic No I press charges now That's it Yeah I don't give I would 9-111 the fuck out your ass I don't have time for it I'm 38 years old I don't fight I don't want a beef

None of that bullshit I don't got none of that left Yeah I got a big knife Yeah you know So it's like I'm I'm looking to catch a stabbing In 2020 If it goes down like that You know, like, that would be kind of lit.

Like, a shooting is a little too much for me. I can catch a stabbing. Most definitely. It's like, it's intimate. It's very intimate, but I got to pay somebody to do it for me. For real? Yeah, I'm that type of guy. I'm trying to do my own stabbing in 2020.

You know what everybody would be saying. They're like, you're a pussy if you, you like get somebody else to handle your dirty word. But fuck that. If you can get somebody to kill somebody or beat somebody ass for you, you doing your thing. You know what I'm saying? You got to protect the president. Somebody got to protect the motherfucking president, baby.

So who have you? caught fades for in the game. Man, I caught fades for a Ladovo. Yeah? Yeah. Never 50? No. People that kind of ain't taking me seriously in certain places.

And if I ever was about to get my ass whoop, I left before everybody got too mad. That's fair. Yeah, yeah. But I've always been in situations where I had the upper hand. And then people didn't try me like that either because they respected me. me as a real nigga. Right. You know what I'm saying?

You never had a phase in your life where you were rolling around with the thing on you? Yes, when I first got to New York man doing comedy and whatnot. New York, that's a worst place to have a gun.

Yeah, yeah. It's one of the worst place. I mean, I had to shoot somebody. I definitely had to shoot somebody. About 10 years ago, leaving the comedy clubs, motherfuckers tried to rob me and whatnot. And I know I bust one of them.

I know I bust one of them. And you never found out? You didn't know who the hell they were or nothing? No, no. You have jewelry on or anything? Was there a reason for them to go after? Yeah, I had a couple chains on or some shit like that.

Some light. Right. And then I wore a polo boots and shit. And, you know, just came up there with my Atlanta swag, you know? Yeah. So when you look like you from out of town, motherfuckers, be thinking you're green. And so I don't have no problem with teaching somebody the true meaning of Christmas if I'm, if I'm threatened. Where do you think you put it in, like in the thigh, the calf, spine?

No, yeah, definitely my spine. The dome? Yeah, where did you put the bullet? Oh, no. Oh, man. I had to shoot him probably in the chest. I know I hit him in the chest because I saw him haul him shake like this. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? I saw him do that shit and I was so proud of myself. You didn't want to do it again after that? You're like, I got to do this more. No, yeah, yeah, I definitely wanted to do it. I definitely wanted to do it again because, you know, just being home, it makes you angry when you think, oh, man, somebody just tried me. Somebody really just tried me, man.

Somebody wanted to kill me. That shit pissed me off. And I, I'm sorry, just, I like it. I was thinking of it again. It was, ah, it's so much I haven't dealt with. Right. Yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, okay, so you're moving around with Little Duval doing the comedy thing at that point.

Are you thinking about getting into hip hop? What is your interest in hip hop at that time? Oh, me and Little Duvall was doing skits and shit on YouTube and whatnot. So, you know, after that, I go do this video with Soldier Boy, the Soldier Boy video I was Superman, in that video. And, you know, I just did everything that I could in Atlanta, and I decided that it was time for me to move.

So I saw what LaDouvae was doing grand hustle and whatnot. And I went up north and everything. And I was like, I'm gonna find 50. So I started doing these skits and shit. And he posted up the first skit that I ever did is Michael Vick skit. And This Is 50

had posted that shit up on This is 50. I'm like, oh, that's how I'm gonna find 50. So like four months later 50 hit me World Star hit me and Vlad hit me All wanted me to be personalities on their website Yeah this is in 2010 The top of 2010

So I went with 50 because that's what I came to do Right You know and so he made me G unit comedian threw me on the radio G unit radio and shit And I started doing the interviews like that And became this hip hop comedian And was this 50 brand new at this point?

No they had been around for like three years What year were we talking again? I want this is we're talking about 2010. I think this is 50 came about in 2009 or eight, 2008 or nine. Because that like realistically, that's pretty fucking early. Like that that this is 50 was around, you know, out of time where there was World Star, there was Vlad, there was the actual like blogs. But it was not like now where there's a million motherfuckers making content about rap. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was a very game changing platform, man. And it took my comedy career from zero to 100 real quick. And I finally started making the money that Little Duval were making back when I was living there. And so I was catching up, baby, you know. And Kevin Hart was a really good friend of mine. He would post up all the videos that I would put up on his page. Oh, really?

Yeah, Kevin Hart helped me out a hell of a lot. Yeah, yeah, man. Shout out to Kevin Hart. Shout out to Little Duval, too, man. And then what ends up happening in 2012, I heard Nick Campbell. was going to be at Gotham Comedy Club. So I go over there, I stalk him at his comedy show. His opening act, Chico Bean, he was trying to stop me

because he recognized me and shit. He was like, hey, man, you got to get the fuck out my face. I'm trying to highlight Nick real quick. I need to be on Nick's Wilden out because I heard Wilden out was coming back and whatnot. So I followed Nick into his dressing room and his body going to stop. Man, me, where the fuck you're going?

And I said, I'm going out. I'm Jack Thrill. I'm supposed to be interviewing Nick Cannon. and he was like, oh, Nick ran out the door. He was like, yo, Jack Dula, what's up, man. Hey, about to bring Dew Wild or not and whatnot. You ain't even got to audition. And he exchanged numbers with me.

Walk all, the rest is history. Wow. I came up to New York handling my business, bro. Yeah, I mean, you make it sound incredibly easy. Like, there's probably a lot of people that have gone to New York trying to link up with 50 Cent and then it just didn't really work. But you figured it out. I came with a buzz, though.

Yeah, I came with a buzz. I was with a little Duval. I had done these sketches. You know, I had been an assistant director's on. in music videos from a boy Gabriel Hart and whatnot. I was assistant director on my president is black. Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. He directed my president

is black. What the fuck? That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. And so I knew how to do a lot of different things from like setting up cameras to breaking and down, gaffing and all that shit. Yeah. So when I came up there, it was just easy for me to get around. And I was going to the clubs every night doing stand-up. So I wanted it. And I chased it. I wasn't waiting for nobody to put me on.

I put myself on it. So that's what 50 saw in me is that drive, that ambition, and he knew he didn't have to tell me what to do. I knew what to do. And he said, you know, use my name, but don't abuse my name. You know what I'm saying? So that was the tradeoff right there. But was it weird to be somebody who was like a publicly facing, like, did you consider yourself G unit? And is it weird at that point?

I considered myself G unit right off the real. Right. I was ready to die for that shit. I'm at a job right now. Come on, man. If you fucking with 50, you fuck it with me. Tony Yale, all the man, who wanted?

But I was a combie. But it's not really like that anymore, right? It's not like that brotherhood anymore. No, no, no, no, fuck, no. I know. Whoever wants to kick their ass, they got this shit. They really got nothing to do with you. They ain't got nothing to do with me.

Do your thing. When did that start falling apart from your mind? Because it's like, you know, 2002-50 really comes in the game, makes a huge splash, get rich to die trying. Yeah, yeah. And then even up to, like, 2007,

the unit seemed like fairly sharp. Obviously, like the game riffs and everything. But then, you know, at some point around maybe 2010 is when I felt like you really kind of like stopped seeing anybody really working together at a certain point, right? I think that was, you know, just a transition going on. And, you know, 50 was figuring it out. And then, you know, he was getting more into the television and entertainment part of it and wanting to act more. Just focusing on what he had to do. And what people didn't understand is that's seven years from when he came out.

So it's just a lot of evolution was going on and 50 walking in there. the destiny of being a mogul that he is now. The transition from being a king of New York to being that super iconic Eminem Dr. Dre Entity. Yeah, and that's what he

is now. And what now? He was having a rough patch. But when I came over there to that G-U and the situation on this is 50.com, I turned that motherfucker up. You know, the red carpets for some of the best interviews you ever see in your fucking life. Because

It wasn't interviews. There's more conversations and whatnot. I set the tone for a lot of these motherfuckers that's doing interviews on goddamn websites and shit. I'm your fucking daddy. Nobody was doing that before me. I did that. I did this to you.

All of you motherfuckers owe me some edible arrangements or some flowers. I'm going to send you a peal box. Send me my flowers. Send them an edible pizza for some edible arrangements. Most definitely. Man, I'm sorry. No, that's cool.

I'd be, because sometimes I'll give you a beer. bitter and you know like you know I don't acknowledge you boy I don't know no cool hurt me you were kind of like too early to necessarily get the recognition for that that you maybe deserve and and for your influence to be felt in the same way right that's that's exactly

right that's exactly right I was but just the head of the time and so I didn't make the money I didn't I didn't know I didn't do the business like the guys that's coming out right now you know I'm just starting to make money now and it wasn't even off hip hop is on pizza right and whatnot but

Then it still helps out what I used to do. So I'm pumping my own brand now, jackthriller.com. Jackthriller.com. Jackthruler.com. But you're still associated where this is 50? Man, I'm still associated with this is 50. They're cool as fuck and whatnot. They're always going to be loved there.

But I ain't, I'm a man now. But you're not doing content for them anymore? No, no. It's a new wave of people coming in now. And I'm letting them do their thing and passing a torch on them. They got that. You are somebody that put your ass on the line for This is 50, though. Do you feel like it wasn't fully supported on a corporate?

level that all of a sudden there wasn't like a budget for it at a certain way like what happened yeah they didn't know what it was they didn't know what it was they didn't know how to nurture a situation like that and I was still trying to figure it out myself so you know they didn't know what the fuck to do with me

they ain't know what to do with me I ain't know what to do well I know what to do with me but you got to you got to get everybody I didn't know how to sell them this is what we should be spending money on me for I didn't know how to make the business plan to get a it off like that. Isn't that interesting though?

Because now it seems obvious you could look at World Star, No Jumper, Academics, and you would say, oh, okay, like this is, if you're going to build a, like, this is the power of building a platform within hip-hop. World Star has a crazy amount of power because they have all those followers, because they have all those subscribers on YouTube. That's right. And then they get to like basically make money through exerting that power. And at a certain point, like with this is 50, in those early days, it was kind of like, you

just had to be making content just out of the love for it because it was like you drop a fire video you're not necessarily making a few thousand dollars off youtube like you would now exactly you know or you're not necessarily able to then go sell a sponsored post for x amount of dollars like it was it was at the time it didn't necessarily seem obvious why it would be important to have a really big website yeah i i i didn't get it following i didn't i didn't i did not get it at all yeah i just was having fun and i really uh really uh wanted to be uh take to prepare to coach it to another level and I was hoping somebody at this particular point would see

me. I wasn't smart enough to go get an agent or I didn't have anybody that was interested in managing me that could actually take me to another level. People wanted to manage me but they couldn't do shit for me. And you got to like kind of be leery of that getting inside of the business

is a lot of people with managers that can't do their form. The managers ride and they wave to find other fucking acts to do. You know what I'm saying? So you got to get somebody that got connections and can take you to another level. I had a lot of things that was going against me because I had a glass eye, you know,

one of the cutest TV-friendly motherfucker off the rip. I looked aggressive. I was doing things online that was very reckless. So it was scareway sponsors and advertisers and stuff like that. You think that the eye has held you back in a way? Like people judge you based on that? The eye has blessed me. and it definitely put people in the way

they didn't understand the eye. They didn't understand it. And they were scared of it. And so, you know, people scared of what they don't understand. So, you know, now that I know I'm supposed to be doing shit independently and all on my own and whatnot. And, you know, like at places like this, I stayed there too long. I didn't know when to get up and go, goddamn, get back inside the race.

and finish what I had started. I was waiting on 50 to put me on at this particular point, some particular point. You feel me? And that was the wrong thing to do. Yeah. There's a lot of time wasted. I should have been taking classes and auditioning,

but you know what I'm saying? Just trying to be down. And I forgot to go do what the fuck I was supposed to do. I forgot. Because nowadays it's like anytime you have somebody who gets a job being on camera for a big corporation or for a corporate entity, they're immediately thinking, how am I going to take this momentum that I'm having built up for myself

by this big company? Like if you, if you, tomorrow, if a kid out there gets a job with a radio station. Well, I mean, it's like,

if you're a personality on the radio station, you should be using that to also try to figure out how to build up your YouTube and your Instagram and your platform so that you could basically like take another step up in the game at a certain point. Like, you should have split off and had the Jack Thriller YouTube channel and started to make your own content as opposed to focus on this is 50? That's exactly what I was supposed to do.

I remember what was my man, Pete Davidson when we was on Wilding out together. And, you know, I was asking him how he had got on this show. He said, my agent, like Jack Thriller, you don't have an agent. And I know what the fuck that was and what I needed an agent for. And I kept on seeing him, like, you know, advanced and going to other levels. Like, you know, what's that show, Saturday Night Live? Right. Justin Viva roasting things that I was qualified to do.

And I was just getting left because I didn't go find an agent. Right. Yeah, yeah. I don't have an agent either. I feel like you get an agent, but like most agents probably got more important people to be dealing with. So how am I really going to trust this person to go and do a bunch of shit on my behalf? Although, in my case, I'm definitely not doing any of that shit myself. So, I mean, it would be better than nothing, I suppose.

Yeah, exactly. So I said that, like, that's me having an agent is having somebody working for me, burning a candle from this end. And I'm still working and doing all that I can do to take my career to another level on this end. Right. So, you know, it just meets. And if I ever had an opportunity to be on a reality show or someone's television show because of that agent, I was going to go kill it.

I was going to go kill it. So that opportunity would work for me, work for me, and making that move, did my best move. Yeah, definitely. Okay, so at a certain point, you know, when I think about, like, a lot of the most viral shit that you ever had, it was you going crazy on the red carpet, just being there live in effect,

like actually at the event, sticking microphones to people's faces and shit. Did you ever start to maybe get the feeling like, I don't know if I want to be putting myself in harm's way all the time. Like there's something about being up in that situation where anything could happen. Like, is there a reason why you kind of maybe fell back on doing some of that kind of stuff at a certain point?

Yeah, that's exactly what happened. I lost the vigor. I wasn't, I wasn't the same Jack Thriller. You know what I'm saying? I had did things that was starting to civilize me. Like, um, getting in like real

relationship. And you know, living, yeah. So that, when you start caring about somebody else and whatnot, it makes you care about yourself more and I was just wanting to live for the people that I was fucking with and I knew I was by myself right you know what I'm saying so it started on donning on me that I needed to give a fuck before I get fucked up and let's not get it fucked up I could fight I could beat the fuck out of any I

can fight so that's not a problem but I don't want to right I don't want to fight. And, you know, I don't want somebody to feel like they want to fight me, you know, or that I'm coming for people and whatnot. And then I just start, stop getting to the point where I want to expose shit and get the tea on certain things.

And, you know, that shit started being whacked to me. And I was like, damn, I'm supposed to be doing stand-up. I'm supposed to be fun and cool. I ain't trying to be controversial. I wasn't thinking about, caring about going viral and all that old silly shit. I just wanted to be me to be the best

me and I just stopped caring about advancing the way the industry was starting to go and people were advancing. Yeah, because I mean, you can get into that mentality of just chasing after viral shit and you know, then at a certain point

it was the same with me, honestly, where it used to be me out with my iPhone going out and drinking and partying and whaling the fuck out going to a different rap show every night, kicking in with different girls every night. And then slowly you start to get into a relationship and you start to feel like,

is it really worth it for me to be basically like treating myself like the fucking sacrificial lamb that I'm putting out here for the fucking content as often as possible? It's like you start to realize the gravity of that decision. When you're 20, you're not thinking about the future. You're not thinking about being worried about something.

Hell no. But as you start to get a little bit more deeper in the game, it starts to worry you a little bit. The more real you get, the more unreal it's going to get. Everybody around you. start doing things that they wouldn't normally did when y'all was this on a regular level. When you start going to another level, people start knowing you and you start acquiring certain things, people start feeling a certain entitlement to what you have.

Like, they helped you get there and they, you know, it just gets really unrealistic. And you were doing fake beefs too. You ran down on 40 o'clock? Yeah, that was a fake beef. That was definitely fake beef. 40 o'clock, my man. Yeah. Yeah.

That was a, it's a promote a fight that never happened. There was to promote a fighter that never fucking happened. And then what was crazy about that shit, bro, is that I was, I like 40 o'clock. Yeah. He's a cool motherfucker. Cool. So I couldn't get mad enough at him to promote the fight that we even want to fight him. So I was like, yo, I'm going to get hurt fucking with this shit.

Right. I'm going to get hurt. I'm out of here. Fuck that money. Just wasn't worth it. It wasn't worth it. But you did do a fight at one point, right? Yes, I did.

called a BX Fight Club. Right. And I got, I got, peer pressure than doing that. I used to host BX Fight Club. My man Hove from the Bronx and whatnot, he's about to go out for 50 and everything. He's helped discover that show for life that he has on ABC. BX. Hove.

He did an underground fight club called BX Fight Club, and I was the host of that, and another guy named Pretty Lou. And, you know, when I would host that shit, I would be talking so much people, so much shit, people were like, Don't you get in the ring then? Won't you get in the ring then?

And then, you know, I was like, man, motherfucker I will. Motherfucker, you think I won't? Man, send me your champion. Right. Yeah, so I fought the next week and got my ass beat. I got drug, bro. Did that really hurt your pride or anything? Or you just whatever?

No, it didn't hurt my pride. It hurt my body. It hurt my face. It hurt my eye. Right. Yeah. The glass eye hurt. The good eye.

The other eye hurt. good eye. Yeah. And that's when I was starting to realize, yo, I'm out of control. Nobody should be able to dare me to do some bullshit like this. I got my ass whooped in front of Fat Joe Remy Ma fucking Tommy from Power or Rotemi, Dre from Power. Yeah. Yeah. I forget who are, oh, you're Papoose. Yeah. They all something to get my ass. So it sucks. Yeah, yeah. 50 posted that shit up, you know, picking on me all the bad parts of the fight. But I I was beating his ass like the first 40 seconds.

Right. Yeah. But so that was the end of you sort of wanting to put yourself on display like that? Yeah, I ain't want no more smoke, Adam. Adam, I ain't want no more goddamn smoke. I don't blame you, man.

Yeah, that shit hurt. It looked painful. Yeah, listen, you know, if the fight would have been over after the first 45 seconds, like fights in the street do, I want. Yeah.

You know, but it's out of the ring. It don't work like that. Yeah, no. There's so many good excuses you can have when you're in a fight in the street. Yes. just sort of rely on like, there's so many things happening.

There's not a great quality video of it usually. Yep. You ever get into a fight and then you basically end up like telling the story of the fight over and over and you just sort of slowly start to twist the facts in the story to make yourself feel like you did better than you actually did? Yes, yes, most definitely. I've been there. And that's how fights used to be.

Like, you could lie and say, it was a tie. It was a tie. It was even, yeah. Yeah, it ain't no video footage, none of that shit. Right. That's why I think it's kind of hard for kids to be kids now because when you're getting bullied, you can see that shit and they'd be living online forever.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you go to fucking Italy. Hey, ain't you the bitch that got a head kicked in and shit at the school? You'd have followed you forever. If that happened to us back in the day, we would have killed motherfuckers. Right, yeah.

We would have killed motherfuckers, man. For your respect in that situation. Yeah, you can't take no hell like that that's going to live for the rest of your... Your lifetime. Don't. Oh, watch for all those millions of views. Yeah.

And your kids gonna see it. Your kids gonna know you got fucked up. Your kids gonna know you was a thight. Your kids gonna know you so pussy. Your kids gonna know you was a groupie. My kids are gonna know that I was slinging dick on the internet. You gonna figure that at some point. You think that's gonna be a weird conversation?

Should I have anything to worry about? I think it's being like normalized now to the point where people are not gonna be too embarrassed about the shit that they see. It's just weird to think that, my brain is totally fucked and in my head I think that there's no way that my kid would ever be able to give a shit about that but then you forget they like at the end of the day you are raising a person that's not as fucking crazy as you are and maybe they would end up being a little weirded out by it yeah yeah yeah I don't think they're gonna be weirded out they the kids today are exposed to so much bullshit yeah it's true yeah it's so much shit yeah I'm gonna say

I can't wait for the first time my kid tries to say like hey I don't like this whole porno thing I'm going to be like, well, you're going to be living in a one-bedroom apartment in Korea town if you don't like it. Shut up, kid. So, you actually did the porn for real, and you showed them your dick. Well, yeah. So we can go Google your dick right now. That's what you're saying. Yeah, yeah.

Many times over. Or caught my girls' only fans if you really want to see a lot of it, yeah. Hold on, cut, time out. No. So you and your old lady. I'm still filming just for the record. Oh, that's not what I mean. Yeah.

I didn't think what you used to. You or your girl, y'all actually is only fan in the right way. But this is the thing is that me and my girl are starting a new thing that I cannot reveal the full information about. But basically, like, what I've done right now in the porn game, I'm about to take it 10 times deeper. And it's not all, I'm basically like, you're going to be doing fetish shit? No, no, no, no, no, I'm just making a lot more content and not necessarily like my penis necessarily, although there'll be some of that. You're going to use other people penises. I've been, we've been working.

Okay. It's the new fucking thing, man. I'm telling you, I know real business people telling me that they've never seen anything create profits like OnlyFans before, you know? Like, because it really is unbelievable the idea of like, you know, you take Bella Thorne. She's like a pretty popping celebrity and everything. I mean, she made like many millions of dollars in the course of a day or two for stuff that took no time to produce. And then you start to get into the head of what all these porn. producers for all these years when it was

like a fully seedy, scummy like low-key industry. They had dirt digger shit. What they were thinking like, oh yeah, you make content, you pay these girls a relatively small amount and then 300 dollars. So many fucking people want to buy this shit. It's a wild world. Like for $27

too, man, the markup on that is amazing. Like when I was doing the porn with Brian Pumper and whatnot, he would pay the girls, pause, pause. Oh, it wasn't just you and Brian Pumper. Oh, not. Both, too?

No, I wasn't fucking. Oh, I thought you were smashing him. No, no, no, no, I'm heterosexual. I like, I like girls. Okay, well, he is too, allegedly. Yeah, yeah, he do what he do. I don't be, I don't know nothing about all that shit. Right.

Yeah, we don't, we don't do that over here. Not a, not at, not a big dick entertainment. He has been accused of doing gay porn by some people, but through my research, I cannot find any evidence that that has ever actually happened. Okay, well, that means it ain't real. I mean, hey, you know what I'm motherfuckings is, uh, in these days and times. If they say it on the internet, that shit real. Right.

So you are definitely lost already in the social media court of opinion. But let me ask you this. When you first met Brian Pumper did, did he seem like just a badass cool dude at first? Or do you think he was a weird guy from the beginning? I thought he was weird, but he was cool, man. He was cool. We didn't have no, I didn't get no, like, crazy weird vibes from him. He was a regular motherfucker.

Right. Like most of the shit that you see with Brian Pumper is a, it's a character online. Yeah, it's a character. But he's a nice guy. He cool and fuck. He paid me $5,000 to host his... Fonio's Rhymes and Dimes.

Was it one of them? Yeah, and it was called Bustaneta datrine. Wow. Yeah. That's so crazy that he actually went into the business of putting out pornos that also included his rap videos. Yes. Who wants that?

Who ever wanted that? I don't know. You know, how many videos. I think we probably did like five, six videos in that motherfucker. Really? Yeah. Five, six, oh, like music videos. I'm inside of shit.

His YouTube channel has so many music videos that are all exactly the same. Yeah, yeah. It's all just him in a room with like one girl and just he's just rapping in the camera. Yeah, yeah. But he's ahead of, he was ahead of his time. Right. And you know, these days and times, if it was a new Brian Pumper with that kind of swag and shit. I'm trying to be that.

Oh, you want that? Yeah, maybe. maybe. Yeah, I think that you and him would do a great movie together where he's teaching you to like the ropes inside porn. Pause, but the thing about

me and him that is weird is why does he not shoot porn anymore? It seems very strange to me. He don't have only fans. I know he was like blackball from like the porn industry at a certain point, but why does he not shoot his own content? That's one of the things that

I don't really understand anymore. I couldn't tell you, man I ain't talked to Brian Pumping and got damn I want to say like eight years or something Right Yeah, I hadn't I hadn't talked to him They sent me a video

Him getting arrested the other day I don't know what the hell he's up to When it all All falls down Yeah you know how that shit goes So, um Okay The life of Jack Thriller these days though

Maybe I actually can saw my list Because I know that I've seen some fucking random shit about you when I was doing my research. Oh, it's about you talking about... Oh, okay, okay. Are you allowed in Atlanta now? Did you ever squash it with two chains?

Yeah. Most definitely, man. What year did you squash it with two chains? Well, you did we squash it? I would say, shit. Um, two... 18 or something like that. I threw up the white flag.

Really? Yeah, I was like, I don't want no more smoke. Be my friend. He was receptive to it. He didn't block me on Instagram, so I had to... Took that as he... That's my boy. He didn't block you?

He didn't block me? He unblocked you? He never blocked me. Oh. So just not getting blocked? Could mean you're on good terms? Yeah, I think that we're on good terms. I said, I'm sorry.

I've been trying to, I sent some edible arrangements over there and whatnot. And, you know, somebody got them and somebody ate them. So I'm pretty sure that it's all good now. You know, he got a harder goal to, too. Right. You know, at the time, I just apologize because I was young, dumb, full of calm. And now, you know, half of the calm is gone. Really?

Yeah. I'm older. I'm pretty sure it's still in there. Yeah, I mean, I just, I just came up like I used to. Really? I can't do it. I don't think I'm experiencing diminishing returns. Yeah, I hold you now.

36. Oh, you're 36. Okay, cool, cool. And now you, so you're a ripped-out thing, drop up a dime, you can get hard. Never popped a rhino, never popped a Viagra. Still going strong. Going strong. I'm talking about, like, oh, like that.

Like that. Like, you did, I'm, no gummy-bar. none of that shit. Right. Just, ugh, no twinkie. No, yeah,

we're holding it down. Yeah, okay, cool, cool. I got the opposite problem, honestly, if anything, where, let me, I'll just get super real with you. Sometimes,

you don't mind. Me and my girl will have a scene planned with another girl, right? So it's like noon. It's in my schedule. Noon.

I got to fuck my girl on this other girl, right? So I'll just be doing whatever. But I've realized that if me and my girl have sex at 9 a.m. Before the 12 o'clock shoot, if we have sex

a couple hours in advance, then I can go forever when it comes time to do the content but the problem is that then when I do the cum shot is less to work with it's a smaller nut basically so it's a given take

where it's like you know you want to be you want to be able to produce as much jizz as possible but you also want to be able to go as long as possible and what do you take for your jiz to like the take for it

yeah like do you do any supplements or something like that no no I don't I don't I don't like that what do you take for your jiz yeah like my mind mind kind of clear. You know what I'm saying?

Like, is you taking any supplement? No, I don't, right? No, I don't know, man. I'm trying to get milky again. Milky? I'm trying to get a little milky. You know what I'm saying? Like, I want my shit to look like some porno shit.

Yo, that's hard. Yeah, it's a little clear. But you want to know something, though, is that the porn industry be sitting, like, false expectations for that shit because a lot of times they use and fake jizz in the videos. Get out of here.

Yeah, it's like this, like, soap or, like, shampoo type shit that looks a lot like it and if you ever see like a weird cut like when the guy's going like from fucking her to come on her face or whatever and sometimes if you see it they'll like they'll edit it so it's like a little flash

and then they show the girl's face and he's jerking off right in your face but then there's already this goop on her face from it's because they already dumped a bunch of this fake jizz on it. Okay okay I was like I ain't never nutted that much nutting no yeah so never nutted that much nutt

man and I thought it was something wrong with me too much money is on the line when you're filming a porno scene to just be completely reliant on the guy's actual giz. You need to get that money shut. It's like, because it happens a lot that they can't get hard and shit. I've heard.

That hasn't happened to me yet. Yeah, yeah. So you say you'd be getting hard at the drop of a dime every time. I don't know about the drop of a dime. Sometimes I make the girls cuddle with me first. Yeah, I like it. They'll be like, oh, girls, come on, let's cuddle around. We'll all just nestle up together here for a little bit

until we're ready to fuck, you know, you need that person. I did. Personality, you know? So you don't mind, like, being in front of cameras and shit like that. They don't throw off your concentration, even with guys in the room. It feels like a job. It feels like, but not as bad as a job because it's like a half hour or whatever. It's like, you know, it don't really.

It doesn't feel like anything really because it doesn't really feel that much like you're having sex either. But, yo, but like even when you, you like when you see a dude though in a room, which you like, they don't kind of throw you off your concentration? Yeah, not really. I mean, it's like a camera guy. He's holding the camera. It's like we're working together. Yeah. You know, it's like, I'm looking at this guy.

I was like someone who's, like, doing a service for me. I'm literally paying him. So I'm, you know, it's like... You were born to do this, man. You were one of those guys. It occurs to me that because I know for a lot of guys doing porn is like a really big deal. Yeah, it's a big deal. And for me, it doesn't feel like anything.

I don't have a porn or dick. Yeah. I got a regular dick. Like, you know, they say, oh, black guys got a big dick for me. That's a hurtful stereotype. Yeah, I got a big dick for me. Like, my dick go with my body. But you got to feel for all the black guys who don't have anacondas

because it's like the media perpetuates the stereotype that every dude is packing a 10-inch dick. It's kind of unfair. Yeah, that shit is kind of crazy. I'm seven inches like a motherfucker in a quarter of, you know, a couple of little centimeters and shit. I've always felt pretty happy with my penis size, but then when we're like working with male porn stars

and I'm looking at their shit, I feel like, Jesus knows. I don't even belong in the same league as these guys. No. No. And, you know, when I would see that type of shit, I just realize, yo, my dick isn't, yeah, I don't, I don't, let me put this up. Right. Let me put it up. Yeah.

My dick don't make sense in this scenario. Throw it away. Yeah. So the eye thing, though, was like a birth defect thing? I was born blind in my left eye. My mom was smoking marijuana when she was pregnant with me. You blame it on weed? I said again.

You blame it on weed? Yeah. You shouldn't smoke while you're pregnant with children. No, you shouldn't do that. My mom was having a hot girl summer before that shit was even a thing. Damn, because my girl is like, you know, she doesn't smoke weed anyway, but she made me start smoking outside the house when she got pregnant. But I always kind of assumed that it wouldn't be that bad.

No, she smoked my eye out. Damn. And then I don't know, you know, she might have been on some other little drugs too, you know. See, that I might have a little crack eyes. I mean, if you were smoking crack, I can imagine the baby having a problem because of that. Yeah, yeah. But in the 70s, they didn't even know what the fuck crack was, right? In the day, it was a new thing.

It was a new thing And it caught on Fas Yeah So out here A lot of people Made money off that Yeah Yeah yeah

You hold that against your mom You have any deep-seated Like resentment towards her Sometimes I think I do Sometimes I think I do You know like I'm not the most family-oriented guy Like I don't spend a lot of

I don't go see my family a lot I'm a hardcore loner man You are Yeah And yeah And yeah I've never been a mama's boy Daddy's boy

None of that shit But it's sometimes I'm I'm learning how to treat my mama better, you know, these days and shit. And, you know, my mom's a minister. So whenever I would, like, ask for advice about something, she'd always revert to a fucking birth side of the Bible. Like, my mom want to hear that shit.

Just be my mama. Say, be regular. Nobody want to hear no fucking scriptures, and nobody want to hear no hymns and no shit like that. Yeah. So that she can kind of get on my nerves. Yeah. But do you just accept that about yourself,

that you're a loner? Or do you, like, for me, sometimes I feel like I'm a loner, but then I feel like I'm actually not. I'm just like purposefully sort of like neglecting the relationships that I have in my life because I'm self-absorbed. There's like a fine line between being so self-absorbed that you just ignore all your relationships and being like a loner, like you say, where you just actually, this is who you are, is that you would much prefer to not have human contact?

Yeah, like people get on my nerve, bro. Like you know you was talking earlier today When you were saying That the older you get your threshold for bullshit It just get a little bit lighter That's where I'm mad I've always been irritated And I always just been a creative person

That wanted to just be alone and study And figure out what my next move was And shit, you know And I just never felt like I could connect And other people was on my page On the same page at me So you know I wasn't always The best friend

a family member. Right. Yeah. So basically you're saying that you recognizing yourself your own capacity to be an asshole? Yes, most definitely.

Right. 100%. Is that something you're working on? That's something I'm working on. Like right now, I'm much better than I used to be. Really? Wouldn't you say so, Gabe?

Absolutely. Right. Okay, so is that where the Duval friendship sort of devolved? Was that a certain point you were just kind of being too much of an asshole? Or how did that go?

No, he was too much of an asshole. Okay, because I've watched. I watched a video with you and him on 50, this is 50 the other day, and he was roasting you pretty hard. Yeah. And it was, I was like, this is an interesting relationship. I could definitely see why this sort of fell apart. Yeah, yeah. I just wasn't, I just really, I'm a leader.

But I also was a tremendously great follower. And I just got to the point where I felt like I learned everything that I could learn from him. through our friendship and connection and stuff and I thought that we would be friends longer if I go get my own life. You know what I'm saying? And so that's why I would end up moving and everything.

But yeah, he can be like, you know, hard to deal with if you'd be around them too long in life. You know, these days and times, yeah, we go for the jugular. You know, when it comes to disrespecting each other, we take it there. You know, my girl, she seen me and Marlon Waynes talking, roasting each other.

And, you know, at a time, Marlon Wayne's, his mom was sick, and she hadn't died yet. And we were just making jokes about his mom dying. And my girl was like, what the fuck? Are y'all fucking serious? Why the fuck is this funny? But then as a comic, you know, there's no limit to what you do, especially behind the scenes when you're around other comics. You know what I'm saying?

And so, like, after that, after she's seen how we interacted with each other, I can say anything I want around her and I don't have to censor myself anymore. Right. And that's what made it easy for me and her to be together

because you got to accept me as I am and I know I'm a handful. Yeah, I mean, you ever think about that, though, how there's such a big divide between what you can say publicly and what you could say privately? Yes, it's weird as fuck. And it keeps getting bigger.

It keeps getting bigger. Yeah. The wild shit about that, Adam, do you know how many motherfuckers feel the way that you do, but they can't say it on TV because they would lose. They fucking endorsements and deals and shit.

So they feel the same way, but they got a lifestyle. They don't want to fuck that check up. I'm already like, you know, I hold back on a good amount of stuff. But if you're like a guy on NBC, yeah, the shit that you are not allowed to say is massive. Massive.

Yeah. Yeah, you will scare the, the fucking money away. The other day me and my girl were watching TV, we're watching some YouTuber girl, and I just went, man, this girl's ugly as fuck. And I just thought about it immediately.

I'm like, I could never say that publicly. Like, if I tweeted that, it would be the next, like, it would be a nuclear holocaust of commentary about the fact that I just said that. You know, it's like, but with my girl,

I felt like I was okay saying that. Actually, my girl was like, oh, I don't think so. You're tripping my r-rah-rah. You know, she got to stand up for everybody. But, you know, it is weird. All little things like that, like, it's just, it's not happening anymore. You know? Yeah, yeah, it's completely, completely different, man.

You have to watch what the fuck you're saying. You will get your ass in some shit that you can't get out of. And you see how many motherfuckers be having to backtrack and go apologize. Because they weren't a job. Apologize? I apologize at two chains. Yeah. But, you know, anything else?

I hadn't after that. But you never had to hit your notes app and go to Instagram and post, like, you know, my apologies to the LGBTQ community. Nope, never had to do that. Because I consider myself part of the LGBT community. Really? Most definitely. Why? I feel like I'm a lesbian.

All that content you did with Brian Palmer? Yeah, man. I am all the way of lesbian. I identify as a woman. I like getting eight out. like in my ass eight you do like that wow I love that shit a lot of people think that's kind of gay

that I've done that so much I don't mean I think it's only kind of gay if you're doing with a guy yeah I'm not really honestly that into it I'm just like whatever like I'm fine with it but I had a video go viral of me getting head from one girl while my girl was eating my ass

and then I switched and the other one was eating my ass my girl was giving me I did the switcher route I turned around that's amazing yeah I was pretty proud that's what I want to do Adam

I want to And you switched them around I didn't even switch them I turned around Yeah So I ain't never had a girl I'd never had that shit Man what does that feel like

Getting your ass ate And your dick suck At the same time Well you're on any cocaine Or anything at the time Or you did this with straight up you It was um With like another

Another very famous popular porn star And it was just middle of the day And I was chilling And actually I've lost a bit of weight since then. So when I see that video, it just makes me feel kind of sick. Like, oh, my God.

Like, that's so gross that you put your giant fat ass in that girl's face like that. Like, it would be a little bit more pleasant now that you've lost some weight. Yeah, I sit on girls' faces all that shit. Oh, really? Yes, most definitely. I get on all fours if I got to.

Oh, my God. So you're really like a booty eating bandit. Yeah, most definitely. Yeah. God. I'll be having a hoax eat me out like puppet child. You know what's funny? When you search Jack Thriller, it's like mostly you, but some Michael Jackson.

Just random songs from the thriller music video. A little bit of MJ in there. Yeah, yeah. So I'm a genius. Yeah. Michael Jackson, the most famous motherfucker that ever walked this earth. There it is. Let's not get it misunderstood.

Chris Brown is not the new Michael Jackson. Beyonce ain't known to Michael Jackson level. Nobody's on Michael Jackson level. You can't compare him to anybody. I hated what this generation is like compares people to Michael Jackson. He's in a class by himself. Yeah. It's really.

It's not the same. Who could you even think would come close to being in the Michael Jackson category? Nobody. You can't even say that like Drake's got like a percentage of what MJ accomplished or like who he was. Exactly. He's probably the closest thing, I would think, in terms of building like a long-term, impressive career. filled with hits, huge megastar.

Yep. He was just a good guy, too. Yeah. He's in the Guinness Book of World Workers for giving to doing the most philanthropy and whatnot and get millions and millions and millions of dollars. So you don't go for the accusations? No, not at all.

You don't buy it? No, people, like, you know how they do smear campaigns on somebody right now if they're doing some bullshit and whatnot. They, I believe it was real companies paying to say that Michael Jackson was a pedophile and was middle-estin kids. It was people paying to take his name down to spam.

I don't think he ever, ever, I don't believe that at all that he ever heard a kid or did some bullshit like that. And I know people that actually been in that house with him and slipping the beds and all that shit. And when they was kids and stuff, he never touched him. Interesting. He never fucking touched him.

Right. You know, like David Chappelle, even say it inside. His stand-up, you know, that he just think that Michael Jackson wants to show off all his toys and be the coolest guy and make the kids want to dream and shit and be inspired. He gets off on that.

Just helping people and making them happy and changing their life, inspiring motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying? Because inside of a world where everybody is going through their little mental issues and depression and da-da-da. Michael Jackson always put a smile on people's face. You know what I'm saying?

Like when he died, he did enough on earth. Right. He did it. Like, nobody was ever to do that after them from having the, the fucking roller coasters in his yard, giraffes and all that. Who had that shit, man? Who had monkeys putting on clothes?

Who had an oxygen chamber? Who had his own, goddamn, he had his own fucking outfits that you know that you're dressing like Michael Jackson if you put that on. Right. You had his own dance. Like, if somebody do it, you know that person is doing the Michael Jackson dance.

You know what I'm saying? He was just one of a fucking kind. He looked different. He changed his look five different times and it caught on. He was the master of reinventing himself. Right. Most inspirational dude that ever walked to earth. We love you, Michael.

Wherever you are. I'm sold. Shut up, Michael. Yeah. Wait, but is that where the Jack Thriller name came from? That's exactly where it came from. The thriller poet, T.I. Actually, named me Jack.

That was when I was going by Honeybund. He was tired of that shit. T.I. Yeah, definitely. Who was T.I. To you at that time? Because T.I. blew up, what, 2003, 4? This happened in 2009 just before I moved to New York.

Oh, okay. And you found out who I was. He was already TI. Oh, yeah, he was still. T.I. And, yeah, he was about to get ready to go back to jail and shit. Oh, yeah. And this was right before that.

You ever buy guns from Tia? Oh, I asked, I tried to buy guns from me. His guns are so unaffordable. I know. Yeah. He on another level and whatnot. He's, he wants to be. He wanted to be.

impressive when he shoot motherfuckers. I wanted when I was a T.I. video shoot the other day across my mind very briefly, like, I should say something about like, you know, let me, I'm trying to cop a hammer. I see what he said. He would have loved it. You think he would have loved it? I think he would have been like, man, why he's bringing up my case from 10 years ago?

Let me tell you, sussle. T.I. is one of the funniest guys your love of meeting your life. Yeah? Yeah. Especially, you see him being charismatic on camera, but he's really, really, really funny off camera, too. Just a great guy, man. Yeah, he got a good sense of human. He knows what you do with who you are. He loved you at him. He was fucking with me.

The people haven't seen the vlog yet, but when they see it, they're going to be like, oh, damn. Like, he put my balls on the fucking coals for a second. Like, he tries, he tries to, like, pull my card a little bit. What do you say to you, man? I was just like, you know, going back and forth a little. You'll see. Okay. It was fun, though. I had fun. Okay. Got you. Got you. Yeah. So what you have to? What's going on? Man, right now it's all about this pizza. Yes. And I'm doing it on private chats, too, bro. On private jets. I'm over here delivering it to my celebrity friends like Adam 22,

like Twister, Shannon Briggs. How are you keeping these things warmer? Well, listen, I got this pizza warmer that, like, they have it in Domino's. Oh, yeah? Yeah, that's how I do it. Okay. Yeah, so I bake the pizzas and everything, put them inside the warm and whatnot and take it straight over the people's house right off the jet ban.

You know, is it different going from? Being a guy who was making money off of your personality towards now you're like really just trying to push a product It's a little bit different than producing content versus pushing a product like does it feel like a switch in your brain? I feel like I'm going through my my um It's not a I'm using my personality to sell the product right and I feel like right now. I'm going through my George Foreman phase You know this is my real. Yeah Yeah, yeah you have a vibe like him. Yeah, you like me right? Yeah like me. You like me. I like me Yeah, yeah, I'm a good guy.

Yeah, so I got the stone pizza now, man. It's cannabis-infused pizza, man. It's so delicious. It doesn't taste like weed. No, it doesn't. And it doesn't smell like weed, but it hits you and, you know, have you with one of those like a really great body high. Right.

I mean, I just ate lunch, so I didn't actually finish the whole slice, but I definitely do have a nice, solid body high going right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's sexy, man. And the women like it because you hit two things. One, you get them high and you're feeding them at the same time. That's all these women want. That's all they want, man.

They want you to get them high. They want to get fed. And they want you to, you know, just pay them some attention. Right. Yeah. And that's what I'm doing right now at the house, man. You know, get them inside my jacuzzi. You know, get them on that comfortable couch, taking them in the backyard.

Would you like to smoke some pizza? Yeah, yeah. Let me feed you, baby. Would you like some ice cream? Would you like a canoli or brownie, some cookies, some cookies? cookies. Do you want some sticky, icky wings, some garlic knots? These girls in L.A., though, they don't be eating nothing. Yeah, they don't eat that shit like that. Cocaine and juice.

Cocaine and juice. Rolling down the street, snorting cocaine, sipping on gin and juice. That's real. You ever snore your cocaine? Say it again? You ever snore cocaine? No, I never got a chance, too. But if I did, I would like, I have to have certain people that I would love to snort cocaine with. Who? DMX? Most definitely. I would love it.

I would snort cocaine with DMX, definitely. Me too, for sure. Yeah, I was... Charlie Sheen. Yeah, got to do that. But he's going to put you to shame to an extent. Like, he's going to do 10 times what you do. Yeah, it's most...

I would little snort cocaine with Donald Trump. He was the person that came to mind for me, too. Yeah. I just want to hear this stupid shit. Because they think that he's snoring out of all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which, I mean, hey. Yeah, yeah.

So I know he's fun high. He's fun when he ain't high. Let me see who else. Rick James Yeah Will Smith Yeah Cat Williams

Yeah Yeah Yeah Michael Jackson Wesley Snipes I don't do cocaine If I did And I had some with me

Would you do it with me Just because It would be a good story You know what Yes I used to fuck around For sure Yes

Definitely Damn that's good to know that No no You're my boy. I got some mushroom chocolates. We could get trippy. I ate some yesterday. Yeah.

We could do that too, Adam. I'm in. I'm not giving, no, I'm not doing that again. I did that the other day. Man, I was like,

yeah, man, I don't want to do this shit. Don't bring them out now. Yeah, I'm cool. What about just hitting the blunt? We'll just get you high as fuck. Yeah,

I'm in. I'm in. I didn't smoke with a lot of cool people, man. Who the coolest person you ever smoke with? Man, that's a good question. I don't know. I mean,

like, I guess. But then there's like a lot of rappers that I've been around a lot. Like I've been around Young Thug a lot, but I never smoked with Young Thug. You never smoked with him. You know, I've like been around Chief Keefe when he was smoking blunts, and I was smoking my blunt, but I never like smoked a blunt with Chief Keefe. But that's also some rappers should is that once you reach a certain level, you just,

you ain't really passing the blunt anymore, I feel like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I smoke with Snoop Dog. Yeah, I never did that. That's the most iconic one I think you can get. Yeah, you can't get no more iconic than that. I smoke with a Whizcalifa. Yeah.

I smoke with Ray Kwan. I smoke with Method Man. I smoked with Tommy Chong. That's dope. He had his own shit, though. Like, he had his own little rolled up. Oh, wow. Wow.

I had a blunt. Now, you did your thing on that one. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. Yeah, I smoked with a lot of cool-ass motherfuckers, man. Right. Yeah.

Chris Khalifa kicks you out the studio if you're smoking tobacco, though. As he should. I don't like to smell of that shit either. You don't even split for Backwood? Yeah. I don't think he likes backwards being rolled around his... Really? His environment, I don't think.

His papers only. Wow. That's his thing. That's dope. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. He created his world. He created his own world.

Yeah. You know, what's the Adam 22 rules over here? What will get you kicked out? Don't pass me no shirm blunts. That'll be cool. Do you ever smoke shirm? Nah, I never got a chance. Damn.

You know what I said? I said I would only smoke shirm if it was with Riza. Or any original Woutain member, really. Really? Yeah. Um, ah, yeah, I can't do that one, bro. I'll be running around in my backyard naked and shit. You know, God, I do that too.

You already do that? Yeah, I do that too. You know that guy in Harlem? I don't got my dick sucked in my backyard. I don't got, yeah, yeah. I got a fun backyard, bro. Really? Yeah.

I'm coming to Harlem. We're in the backyard. It's a nice, man. Like, yeah, yeah, we're going to have some good. We're going to have a good time. Let's do it. Yeah, one hell of a high scarface, baby. Me, Jack Thriller, Brian, Pump.

bumper private jet. I like it. Harlem to Hollywood. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it, man. All right. So we push a pizza, Jack Thriller.

Where should they go, I guess, if they want to keep up on where you got going on? Yeah, man, please. Order Stone Pizza. If you want to order for Stone Pizza, it's at Pizza P-I-Z-A-P-U-S-H-A. And follow Jack Thriller at Jack Thriller. pizza. Hey, we're looking for investors. If you got $12 million, we're trying to open up 10 stores and shit, and that's the type of deals we're taking. You know, only people we do some one-off shit with is definitely, my man, Adam 22.

Yo, you like the pizza, right? That was hard, yeah. I should really fuck with it. Man, that's what's up. That's what's up, man. It's a delicious pizza, man. I really fuck with y'all. Thank y'all for having me on your podcast, man. This is 22.com. Woo! Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

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