No Jumper - The Kid Trunks Interview: Being Discovered by XXXtentacion, Getting Sober, Best Asian Rapper & More

Episode Date: May 19, 2021

Kid Trunks talk about what he's been up to, his close relationship with X, the lit era of the Revenge Tour, new music with Empire, call Ghazi the CEO of the year and more! https://www.instagram.com/kidtrunks/ ----- CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5tesvmDS8h50LkjnSAWMOs?si=j6sJD6DkR4mk5NZZWnlK7g FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFICIAL http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today we got somebody that I've been looking forward to having a conversation with for a very long time. It's your boy, Kid Trunks, the greatest Asian rapper alive coming straight from Brad County, Florida. And we are on the coolest podcast in the world. No Jumper. He said it. I said it. Coolest Asian rapper in the world.

I'm glad that you just went for it. Yeah, I had to. You've got to never take your foot off Rich Brian's neck. That way. That part. Is that your main competition? Who is? My main competition is myself.

Okay. Like, you feel me? I'm not really worried about another man. But in the Asian rapper space, like, because you claim that. It's like, who else do you think even has, like, any kind of? Trunks. Just trunks. Yeah.

That's about it. Would you do the stupid young collab? Can we make that happen? I feel stupid young. Okay. Yeah. He's hard. Yeah, he is hard.

Yeah. We've been talking in the DMs for, like, for a little minute now. Really? Yeah, we've just been not really on some music-related shit. I've got to be the only white person in that video. I'm going on a front of a phone. I'm going to Long Beach. with kid trunks and we're doing a stupid young video.

That'd be fucking hard. That would be crazy. All the Asians and just add them there like. For sure. Yeah, we just found out something. We just found out that you're from fucking Dorchester, which is in Boston. Dorchester, Massachusetts. That's where you were originally born.

Yeah. Oh, no, I was born in Vietnam, but I moved from Vietnam when I was two. Holy shit. And from two, basically all the way to age six, I was like in and out of Dorchester and Florida. What were your parents doing in Vietnam at that time? And why did they leave? honestly like they they didn't have no jobs in vietnam because it's it's hard to find like you know proper jobs that give you like good residual income so they was like fuck it like it's just go to america wow okay

yeah and so they just took off yeah took off with a two-year-old that's pretty bold though yeah in a boat in a boat in a boat so they just showed up they didn't like know if they were going to be able to get in or nothing basically holy fuck yeah we was on some refugee shit wow yeah but you when you think about your childhood okay so then but you guys initially moved to dorchester and then how long did you live there until you went to Florida? I lived in Dorchester from 2 to 5. That's when I went to Broward,

5 to like 8. That's when I went back and then 8 to like 10 or 11 that's when I went back to Florida. And what were your parents doing? Nails. Nails, that was their main thing. Yeah, that was their little stilo, you know.

They had their own spot. They were just used to running their own spot? They were working for somebody else. I'm in the process of trying to, you know, build something for them right now. You want to get into the family business? I don't want to get into the family business, but I don't mind opening a shop for them. Right, just so they can have their own.

Yeah, because if you have some startup capital, it's like you might as well do it on your own instead of work for somebody else, right? Hell yeah. Okay, so that was their main thing. What was your childhood like as you kind of observed all this going on? I mean, I was always a badass kid growing up. Like, I wasn't like, I was definitely raised in the hood, you know what I'm, but I can't really label myself as like a street person because, you know, it's a different. You know the difference between it. I mean, it's how hard you gravitate towards it.

Yeah. You can kind of choose, like, if you want to just be all up in it or if you want to just be around it. I mean, I was just like on some regular bad shit. Like me and my friends were just, when I was younger, we used to, I just poke windows, you know, regular shit, you know? Regular shit, no gang shit. But I was always, like, bad and doing bad shit.

Always had bad grades. So, like, my mom was really disappointed at me for the majority of my life. But she always tried her best to, you know, keep me sane. Right. And was that weird for you? Did you feel like the, I mean, the stereotype is that like Asian parents are hell of fucking serious with their kids education and want them to be a doctor. If you know a doctor, you know get money. I'm glad you're doing that so I don't have to. But that's the stereotype. Was that how your parents were? Like you're supposed to really appreciate your education and take advantage of that. Hell yeah. Like it's to the point where like when I get settled in life, when I'm like, you know, kind of a little bit of comfortable, I might get a. GED just to give it to my mom.

She always wanted me to graduate high school, but like high school wasn't for you? It wasn't for me. What kind of kid were you in high school? I got bullied in high school. Really? Like a motherfucker. Yeah, but like I have my friends, you feel? I got my friends here from high school. We got, you feel? We got Vante, we got Josh, you feel me? We got

Erickson. And then we got Madaabe's Antana, his artist got his played, and my manager Abson Will. That's what's up. But not, high school was, it was like mid for me, bro. It could have been way better, but like I've always like tried to stay in myself and try to stay around like the people that actually cared about me right but the majority of time I was around like the wrong person and like that person like long story sure I got fucked over

a whole many times you know it's interesting though because when I think about you I think of you as being part of like a really really strong friend group I mean I did after I dropped out of high school that's when I met um X and that's when he put me members only and he was the first person you met that was doing music or what was your involvement with rap before that um shit like I've always wanted to be a rapper when I was like fucking when I was legit but like I didn't really take things seriously because I wasn't really around anyone that took shit seriously like I keep it stacked so hard to go from from scratch but like if key Glock was your uncle oh shit and you could kind of like see the game it's like easier to sort of start to put the shit together I don't know why key Glock being

your uncle is my example man if key Glock was my uncle and I was starting a rap man I'm gonna work to my point when I worked to my point you better put me on or even if there's like a guy across the street with a studio in his garage. You'd like make a song one time and it just clicked in your brain like, oh fuck, I could just do that? I could just make a song? Right.

Yeah. So the people you were around, you never were around anybody that was taking music serious. No. I'll keep it blood raw with you. When I was like a jet, like 13, 14, 12, like I was still, you know,

doing freestyles and like recording on little ass equipment and shit. But I was, like I said, I wasn't around anyone that was really taking that shit serious. Right. And when I was trying to be around, the people that was trying to take it serious

that were in my high school, they kind of like push me to the curb. You feel me? And like, yeah. Okay. So how did you meet X? Why did you drop out first? You just hated it that much?

I'll keep it blood rock. Fucking X told me to drop out. Like, he forced me to drop out. Like, I swear. Wow. Okay. So how did you meet him? Well, I met him when I was like 14 or 15.

I was at, I had a best friend back then high school, her name was Cynthia. And I would just usually be at her crib and shit, just vibrant because we was friends. Then she told me one day, she was like, yo, I got a man. You can't really, like, come over that much. I was like, I bet, but you got to introduce me to him because you feel me, we best friends and shit. So my current manager, X's old manager, absent will. He had dropped him off at Cynthia's house that day, and that's where I met him.

But at first we didn't, like, get along because he wasn't a really friendly person. Yeah. Yeah, you know. You know, John. I mean, I was just imagining, like, YouTube meeting and I'm just, but that's interesting because, like, the ex I knew always had at least a little bit of ego from his music taken off, so I'm wondering what he was like before any of that. I mean, he was always like a, like a, you know, prolific person.

He was just not really, like, friendly like that. He had a presence when you first seen him that it was like, oh, my God, like, this is, this dude is a thing. Yeah, he gave me anxiety the first time I met him. Yeah. Big anxiety. And I was like, yo, you're trying to smoke at all. He is an anxiety-inducing person. I could see that for a lot of people.

He didn't really smoke weed like that, so I tried to offer to smoke. He was like, nah, I'm good. And after that day, we was literally around the friend's same group. I started around the same friend group. And eventually he just took me in. And was he making music at that time? Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Hell yeah. And had you heard it? Did you like? Yeah, I'll fucking love that shit. And you thought it was dope from the beginning. You were like, holy shit, this guy's actually doing something. When I first heard that shit, it was fucking. I didn't hear.

anything that sounded like that. Yeah. It was fucking crazy. And that's interesting because I feel like at that time there was just such an appetite for like raw, aggressive rap from young kids in Florida in particular is where it really all started like cracking off around that time. Yeah, definitely. What were you listening to up until that point? And was that like the moment where all of a sudden you started getting interested in all this underground shit and different shit? Yeah. I mean, before that, before I met Jha, I was listening to like a lot of mainstream shit. Like, you know, like fucking Drake and like Miko's and shit before the situation, so don't fucking come on crazy. Yeah.

But, yeah, just mainstream shit. Okay. Yeah. And so then, did you, you get introduced to his friend group? What's his friend group? Everyone that we... Everyone that's in, like, not everyone, but like the majority of people that's in members only now, like Bass Antana, Flavo Tarantino, Reds, like, and like a few people that,

I'm not going to name that's not in here, but, you know, we would just be around the same friend group as in, we would be at the same parties together. Right. Because, like, we used to throw big parties, like big, big, big house parties. Right. And I was just around. He seen me everywhere. This down the third.

And then... He just started fucking with you? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And at that time, how long did it take before you got to see him beat the fuck out of somebody? Is that, like, a pretty consistent thing?

Like, I gave it, like... I gave it, like, a week after... Like, a week after I met him, it was my birthday. And we went to, like, some, like, hotel from my birthday. And then I thought... the hotel he beat the shit out of somebody. Do you remember why or how it went down? I'm not going to speak much on that, but he beat the shit out of somebody.

He beat the shit out of somebody in front of my face. I was like, damn, that shit's... And did it strike you as like, oh, this is a dude who will go over the top of to defend himself? Or did it strike you as like, damn, this dude's got a few loose screws? Like, he's a little too quick to pop off here. Both. Like, you know, like he was always the type of person to defend himself and defend the people that he loved. Right.

You feel me? Because it was always a good reason why he did what he did. And I didn't see it until, you know, later. I feel you. So when did you first have a conversation about, like, you become officially part of his thing? Or when, what kind of conversations were you guys having around that time? Honestly, we wasn't even talking about me being a members only. I was just around, you know, like supporting him, like being at the shows, turning up, like promoting his music.

And then one day I woke up, he tweets, he was like, welcome to members only men. And that's when he put me in members only. Wow, really? Yeah. That's dope. Yeah, we didn't even talk about me being in the group or anything. That's official. It's crazy.

Do you remember when he did the No Jumber interview? Yeah, that's like five years ago. Yeah, we just hit five years. Actually, that's crazy because I saw somebody put that on their story that it was five years ago a few days ago. It's super crazy. Do you, like, where were you during that? Like, was it a possibility that you would have been going? going to L.A. with them at that time?

Nah, I was super young. It was too early. I was super young, and he was with Bruno. And, like, you know, Bruno does porn and shit. And at the time I was underage. So, you know, you can't have no fucking underage kid around porn people. That is a surprisingly mature perspective that I wouldn't have assumed that y'all would have been thinking about at that time. Bro, like he, bro, X did not let me go into Bruno's house until I turn 18.

Really? Yeah. Why? Because he knew that one of those girls were probably going to slurp you up? Nah, he just didn't want no cases to be, you know. Oh, that is, I would not have assumed that he would be that mature about that, but that's a good point, yeah. He wouldn't even let me, like, go out to, like, the clubs, like the parties and shit. Really?

Yeah, but. Why, he was just mad protective with you? I remember he was really protective of me. But just of girls trying to fuck you. Nah, not even that, just, like, my energy, you know? Yeah. Did you eventually get older and go to Bruno's house and smash a bunch of porn stars? Yeah, I want to talk about it, though.

That's part of growing up. That's part of Broward culture, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm done with that life. Probably everybody in this room could say the same thing, besides Laura. But, okay, so how do you start moving around with them? And, like, I mean, there's, like a moment where X gets locked up.

And then his music starts blowing the fuck up while he's locked up. And it hits a totally different level. Where were you for all that and what was your perspective on it? What was that for all that? Honestly, I was just at my crib and, like, around, like, the members-only boys. like just trying to continue working while he was still locked up. Like we knew he was going to get out because you feel me. My dog innocent.

And you guys were all working on the music and everything pretty aggressively at the point. While he was in jail, yeah, we were working on music and like we were throwing parties to like, you know, make some side bread and shit. Right. And yeah, we was just trying to work until they got out. Right. Okay. And then, but then he started blowing the fuck up. Yeah.

And that must have been kind of weird to witness because it wasn't like new music. It wasn't like he did something. And it was just people word of mouth spreading, like crazy. Honestly, it didn't surprise me because from the jump, I knew he was going to go somewhere. Like, if it wasn't like that year, it would be some place other where, but like I knew he was going to blow up. It surprised me, but it didn't really surprise me like that. Right. I knew he was going to go up.

Definitely. So then you went on the revenge tour, right? Yeah. Is there anything important that I'm skipping in between the revenge, him getting out of prison and then the, or jail, I guess? No, no, no. Revenge story. It was pretty soon after, right? Yeah, you're on track.

What was that like? Honestly, that was my first, like, big tour I've ever been on, and that was, like, low-key, like, the best tour I've ever been on in my whole entire life. It sounded like a fucking war every day from some of the people I've talked to about it. It was sick. It was sick. Like, what kind of stuff was going on? It was just totally out of control.

It was a lot of sick shit going on. Really? Good sick shit, though. Right. Yeah. I mean, probably the craziest moment that, like, soon after it got canceled was when he got punched in the face on stage. Yeah, that's crazy.

You were just, what went through your head when you saw that happen? Honestly, I just, I was there. And when that happened, I, like, ran towards the side of the stage and the person that, like, the person that didn't do it, but the person that was with him, he came on stage and we was on, he was behind the, the curtain. And we was just, like, basically jumping him, jumping his homeboy. And, like, while he, while he was doing that, he was grabbing my hair. And I think bass was there, Will was there

I think all of us were just jumping out one person But when that shit happened, like, when that shit happened, like, it was so crazy because I did not expect that shit to happen. That should happen so quick. That was one of the craziest things to see on the internet. The venue set us up, though. The venue set us up. Right. It's crazy.

Because otherwise, how the fuck would he get in there? That's what I'm saying? Yeah. No. But. I heard that guy got stabbed. I didn't know that. I don't know.

I was just worried around the streets. It's crazy. It's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. Were you getting fucked up all this time? I know that you've definitely had your ups and downs in terms of drugs and everything, right? Yeah, unfortunately.

When did that start to kick in? Like, have you been doing that since you're young? I mean, I've been smoking weed since I was young. Right. And, like, the first drug I've ever done besides weed was Molly back when I was 12. Uh-huh. Back when that shit was popping. Right.

But then I... You're 12. Yeah. I'm glad I knew Molly as a 12-year-old. Feels like a lot. It is a lot. I did it at, like, 24, and I still... I don't know if I was ready for it.

Yeah, I just wanted to experience something new. And then after Molly, I tried Zanz. And then Zanz turned me to a whole different person. Like, I just, I can't. Yeah, I can't accept that shit anymore. Like, the only time I'll probably do is Zan, to this day, is if I, like, have, like, a fucking 10-hour flight. You feel me, I'll pop one and go to sleep and then wake up.

That's a messy way to live your life. Yeah. You just can't remember shit. You're falling all over yourself, fucking drooling and shit. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. And then I got,

I introduced the perks. And that took the place of the Zans? Yeah, unfortunately. Once again. Compare those for me, like, what the perks were like that the Xanax weren't like that made you like it so much more? No, bro, perks. But I don't kids, everyone that's watching this right now don't do drugs.

I'm not trying to, you know, push the feed of doing drugs. I don't support that shit. But, like, it, unfortunately, it made me feel like so much better about myself. Really? Because, like, I suffer from severe anxiety. and depression disorder. And, like, they, the people who prescribed me

prescriptions, they prescribed me Lexapro, and I didn't want to take that shit. That shit sucks. I've heard. That shit fucking sucks. That one's crazy. Hell yeah. So, like, honestly, like,

the drug of my choice back then was, like, perks. And, like, that shit made me feel like. It's more of, like, an up alert feeling. It depends on some people. Yeah, it depends on some people, because a person could take a perk and, like, feel like,

but then another person won't take it and just feel like, you feel me right yeah definitely so okay you you guys get off that tour and like what what is life like at that point uh life was a mess right i had to get my life together after the tour yeah because it was just so much going on so much going on in terms of what in terms of like my health because like i was eating terrible i was fucking smoking every day drinking you feel me like my immune system was down right So I had to, like, get my life together. Okay.

Yeah. And this whole way, are you, like, really also plotting on, like, what you're going to do with your rap career and how you're going to sort of be able to be your own artist, even though you're attached to, like, the biggest artist at that time? Yeah, definitely. After the tour, I mainly, like, took a, like, step, not away from the group, but just away from, like, making music with Jha and just, like, focusing on my own career. And my manager will, he would just be.

there with me every day. We'll take trips to different cities go label shopping but fortunately we got picked up by Empire Shazazazazazzi, best CEO in the world. But as a group, not as individual artists? Oh no, as individual artists. Oh, everybody, as individual artists and as a group. Yeah.

Okay. But I think Jha told him to sign me. I don't know if that's true or not. But like Gazi was just looking around the circle to like who to sign around Jai and like thank God he chose. me and shit and as a as a solo artist I'd sign a you know distribution deal with empire we got a big partnership going on that's what's up um how many songs did you guys actually have come out together um we got seven seven seven we got came to kill and that was about it how would you describe

the recording process because i would hear from people that he was like so picky in the studio Yeah, he's super picky. He would like take him forever to get a verse put together. He was just like moving off emotions so much that it was kind of like, you know, it would be hard for him to sort of... Base antenna, pass to me to joint. ...comit to anything.

Gang. It would be hard for him to like really commit to shit or whatever that he was like very like all over the place in the studio. What was your experience in those environments? My experience with him was pretty easy. I'm like, a lot. It depends on a situation and the person that he works with. And like if he works with anyone that's close to him and MO,

it's kind of easy but when we were working on 7777 it was actually my song that I wanted him to get on for my project and like we made the beat on spot in the back of the tour bus and he like wrote like a few of my bars from me

and like I didn't hit it right so he like screamed at me like you're not getting this fucking shit right bro do it right and I'm like oh shit okay I'm gonna do it right shit my bad did you think that that was helpful or was it was definitely helpful because I was bullshin and like come to look at it now I shouldn't have bullshit it yeah that's interesting

it's kind of like that kind of coach mm-hmm for sure um okay so so when did you actually end up putting out that I feel like that video on World Star was your first like big solo look uh that was my that was my first big solo video but my big first solo song was talk oh okay yeah um I don't know I actually be posted on the soundcloud like a week maybe two weeks after I posted a song and that shit went up. Right. Yeah, she went up. Did you feel like that was kind of like the start of you getting recognized as a solo artist?

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Definitely. And then when you did that video, like, did you know that that video was going to be the one that went up? Because I feel like that one has like 15 million views and that was probably, that was the first time that I was like, oh, okay, trunks was really taking the serious now. All right. I knew what was going to go up because of the situation I put myself in.

Where was that? And toss me to light her. I shall catch it caught it You feel me That was nice But anyways I knew it was gonna blow up

Because of the situation I put myself in So basically I was just on some chill shit Regular shit I was on my mom's patio And in the morning Like I was like

You know what I felt like Just labeling myself The greatest Asian rapper alive So I post on my story I'm like hey man Like I don't care

Who don't think so But I'm the greatest Asian rapper alive You feel me Pondank period and then two days later I wake up academics posting me on the story. Oh, and asked if people agreed. Yeah, and that shit went viral. So I had so many people hit me up like,

ah, I did. Honestly, I didn't really stress it that much. So even if you got a lot of hate from it, though, was that worth it in that it got a lot more people talking about you? Yeah, it was worth it because at the end of the day, everyone as an artist and as a man should feel like they're the greatest. You feel me? As a human themselves personally, I'm not talking about the next man.

I'm talking about you, yourself. you should feel like you're the greatest and as Adam 22 I know this is the greatest podcast alive at coolest at least but yeah also greatest okay yeah and I feel like I wasn't really disrespecting nobody like that because I wasn't calling people names

I wasn't calling out shots I was just saying what I felt and I'm entitled to my own opinion Was there anybody who said anything about that topic that you remember in particular pissing you off in terms of people being like who the fuck is this kid or anything like that? I mean it didn't particularly piss me off It kind of threw me off. Like, kind of like, what?

That's kind of awkward, kind of weird. I mean, I fought with them shots out. I was like, gin gates and shit. But, like, at first he was, like, calling shots at me. I was like, damn, that's how you feel? Right. Instead of just coming in my DM, like, hey, little bro, da-da-da-da. But I feel it.

You feel that? You feel like? A shot out of gin, but, I mean. So that's a gin-gates. He takes, like, a lot of steroids. So I understand why he felt that way. He's swollen as hell. Okay.

You feel me? So less testosterone, my brother. It's funny, though, because you saying that and it becoming a big viral thing, it's like, that's actually what causes that, though, is everybody else is like, well, I want to go viral too. I'm going to hop on this shit. Exactly. Why didn't I think of that first? Exactly. And, like, in my opinion, like, yeah, other Asian people or other Asian artists paved the way for a lot of people, but I feel like I really paved the way for Asians in general. That's what I'm still trying to do because realistically and really and truly, before I did all of that, I had, I did not. hear about one Asian person, like, you know, talking about themselves in a good manner or, like, just speaking up, you feel me? And after I did that, you see all these Asian motherfuckers wootly-woo. Yeah. Don't compare yourself to kid trunks if you don't have face tattoos and blickies

in your videos. Type shit. I mean, it's just, it's different types of rappers. Yeah. I don't know. It's like if you know, that was back then, though. That was when I was on the blickies in the videos anymore? No, not really. Did that ever get you in trouble? No, not really. No, I've never been and the type of person to get in trouble with the law. Okay. I was a smart person, so, but not, like, that was me like two, three, four, five years ago, you know what I'm, like, and over the time of me getting older, I started to, like, learn a lot more, and I'm not really.

How was that video, though? It looked like a good time. Yeah, it was a good time. It was a great time. Were you fucked up back then? Yeah, it was. Fooked up and handling firearms. I was off to lean in the perks.

I don't drink lean anymore, but. Lean in the parks together is no go. You turn into a zombie, big Z zombie. Yeah. That's like somebody else got to drive your car home. You can't even tough it up. No, you can't. If you tough it out, you're going to wake up with a big ass dent in your car or that shit

going to be done by the morning. When did you actually officially like stop doing drugs and shit or not, I'm not saying stop, but you know, slow down significantly. You don't seem, I remember you a couple years ago and there's definitely a different energy. I started slowing down on Lean and Zans. when I started to realize it was taking a very big toll on like not just my like physical state or mental state it was taking a toll on like the people that I love you feel me because being you're being an asshole so on them and all that fucking asshole dick fucking you feel me all the bad names you can name you're going through all these mood swings you don't necessarily really understand I don't the mood swings because you're right in the middle of it and then meanwhile you just have like people in your life who you're just being a fucking total prick to and and and not I'm not really really really understand the mood swings because you're right in the middle of it and and and not I I'm so thankful for everyone that's around me that I put through that. And like, I'm surprised they're even around me.

That's how I know they really love me, you feel me? And, like, I don't know. After I realized that I was doing shit to the people around me that was, it really fucked me up. So that's when I really stopped that shit. I feel you. Before X passed, it was like, there was a period of however many months, maybe like six months or maybe longer that I felt like he kind of like entered a different state in his life.

where he was just like, you know, he wasn't like arguing with anybody on Instagram live anymore. He was just straight making music, be into himself. He definitely, like, I wasn't really around like that when he, when he was doing that stage of his life. But we would still be talking on text messages

and FaceTime. I wasn't around, like, physically because I was, like, doing my own shit. Right. But shit from what I've heard and for, like, what I've seen, just talking him on the phone. Like, he really found love within himself. And once he did that, he didn't really care about nobody else's opinion. Yeah, I felt like he really wanted to work on himself. And he didn't really feel like he could do that

if he was touring or being in L.A. or going to clubs, all this shit. He just kind of cut himself off and was trying to really be more of a normal person, not affected by the world as much. Yeah. I'm glad he went through that stage, though. That shit definitely changed everything. But so where were you at kind of during that area? Were you stopping by the house? sir um unfortunately i never went to his house when he was alive oh okay but like i would just be doing my own thing because at the time like i was still kind of like hot you feel me and i would just have shit that i'd have to do like work on my album go to different states you know do do shows and all that shit and like and yeah i feel you uh where were you at when you found out he passed

i was at my i was at my mom's house and then i found out he got shot at my mom's house and then i found out He got shot at my mom's house. But in that particular moment, I thought it was like, I thought it was awesome. Like, he gets shot, and then he going to go on the gram and be like, yo, you feel me, all some, awesome regular shit. Right. And then I went straight to my homie house. And as soon as I got to my homie house, one of my homies, and I found out that he didn't, because the sheriff tweeted online that he didn't make it. and after that we went straight to the hospital

and they weren't really letting us in like that right yeah and then that must have been a pretty crazy scene just like all the homies all these people who just you know probably like have not been to the hospital too many times to see somebody crowding the outside of the fucking hospital and it's like the most fucking traumatic

I was in distraught bro yeah it didn't really hit me like that because I was delusional about that shit Like that shit was like, no. Like, no. You feel me? Like, I don't know. It hit me different.

Like, I'm turning into a young man. And at that time, I wasn't really, like, I didn't have the knowledge that I gained now. And I'm still learning. And, like, I didn't really know how to, like, react to it because it was just, like, I couldn't believe it. Yeah. Yeah. So unthinkable. Just that you could, you know, accomplish so much and then go out in such a stupid fucking way that,

doesn't make any sense. Yeah, man. He had big plans, bro. Big plans for all of us. But shit, we still here. Do you feel like that kind of took the friend group and brought everybody together for a while? I feel like some people.

Some people that really like understand what family is. You know what I'm saying? And like, I'm so grateful to have everyone that I do have around me now. And like, it only just goes to show me that like, you know, not a lot of people want to stay. for the ride. Once the captain leaves,

no one wants to, you know, help out and like, you know, keep the boat going, you feel me? Because, like, all right,

for example, a boat only has one captain. You feel me? But if the captain is not there and we need to get somewhere, all of us has to come together, you feel me, and learn from each other

and, like, build this big-ass bond and relationship to the plumber. We can move the boat bottom. We don't need a captain. We need a captain, but like, I'm saying,

like, If we all would have came together, which we did, everything could have just been more, like, bigger for us organically. But the only people that, you know, stuck around was the real ones. I'm not trying to talk shit or, like, you know, say any dumb shit, but I'm just keeping it the stack. Because after X died, like, a lot of people showed their true colors to us. And, like, a lot, or at least to me, you feel me?

I'm not trying to just speak on nobody else, but just on kid trunk's behalf. Shown true colors in what way? And, like, just, like, you only fuck with me because of him. And, like, that's fine, and that's true in reality. But, like, once he passed away, a lot of people start, like, distance himself with me. And, like, you know, just, you know, it wasn't the same energy after he passed away. That's interesting, yeah. But a lot of people did stick around, though, and I salute them and I appreciate them.

You feel me? Right. Some real shit. I just remember that time period during his moment. like that whole weekend or whatever and I mean I just remember going to his house and just I mean that energy was just fucked up like it was just so like just seeing everybody in all different stages in their grieving process you know it was like it felt important to be there and to like witness firsthand so that his death wasn't just this like abstract thing that I read about on

Twitter yeah but at the same time it was just so sad and so like I've just never ever probably been in an environment with that many like people that I knew who were that fucked up over anything yeah I don't know it felt like it was a black cloud over the whole state too it was that shit was a very tough era for me and it still is you know but like I knew if he was here and like I continued to like cry like the way I do he'll probably smack the shit out of me you feel me so I'm gonna just stick to everything he say because I mean yeah I do cry and like when I feel like things are getting above my head and shit and like I can't control my feelings and emotions yeah I do cry I'm a cancer I'm gonna I'm gonna be able to let it out

you feel me I'm emotional as hell if you know anyone if you ask anybody around me that know me they know that I am a very emotional person right but like I choose a time in place for that you know I'm saying because it's a time and place for everything and luckily like as I got older I found I found myself and I'm still trying to fully find myself but in the process of that I learned what balance was and like once I balanced everything out

like it made me feel better so yeah for sure I mean I went through a time period in my life of a long ass time period where like I was getting into my dad and we'd be fighting and shit and like I would be young and I'd be crying and then I realized at some point like oh shit like

you like you don't cry in that environment anymore but you also don't cry at all about anything. And it's like years and years out and you're like, oh, fuck, like I don't even have that human impulse. I feel like honestly having my daughter made me like a way more open person because it gave me something to feel emotional as fuck about all the time. I'm like, I don't really know you like that to speak upon like, you know, what we went through, but I'm pretty sure you went through some shit in your life,

you feel me? As a very grown adult as you are, you live in all these years. You went through some shit. I know you did, but. Oh, yeah, you get grizzled. I feel like all the shit that humans go through, it really, it's like PTSD. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of trauma behind life itself because I don't know, bro.

Life brings a lot of fuck shit in our lives. And like that shit definitely takes a toll on us mentally. And sometimes when I see the guy on the side of the road screaming at himself or, you know, you see like a homeless person, but you can tell it they're older and that they have like real serious mental illness or whatever. And I wonder, like, maybe they just went through some shit in their life that they just couldn't take being a normal person anymore. When you hear about people where their kids die or get killed, all this, you know, your spouse gets killed, all kinds of crazy shit. It's like, it's not that hard for me to imagine having something that you're so traumatic that you couldn't really be a normal person after. Yeah, it's some fucked up shit, bro.

That's why I, like, I'm not a perfect person, but I, you feel me? In the past, I feel like everybody in this planet has judged in their life, you feel me? No one's perfect. But as I got older and I started to like be aligned with the universe because the people that I have around me are very universal, like especially my homie dready. So that's the one dready. He's like a very universal person. And like I looked up to him as like an older brother per se.

And like he's always like when I'm down, he's always like, you know, spoke to me about the universe and like how you got to move with the universe. And I don't know, man. That shit is just. I'm so high right now. Like I'm so high right now. I'm just getting deep into this shit. Okay, here's a question.

When you guys actually like, like, what was the conversation like about like, yeah, we're going to make the members only album happen? Have that been a conversation for a while? Will, did we ever, that was bass. There was no conversation, right? That was just all music that existed. It just happened. Oh, okay.

It just happened. We didn't even have a conversation about that. Okay. He just, I think he put it all together by itself. Exited. I think so. Did he? We don't know.

See, I think... So nobody in the group knows how their first album came out? It just came out. It just happened? Yeah. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah. He told you all to show up to the studio.

Studio, and, like, he told me to send him the songs that we recorded on tour. But how many months after he passed did the album come out? Because I always figured that the album was like, the idea came after he passed. Oh, you're talking about volume three or volume four? I forget. The big one that came out, like, on Empire and shit, I forget. Was there multiple ones on Empire? Oh, he's talking about volume four.

Okay. Oh, I mean, we, like us, an ex, we didn't talk about making no music before we passed away. Now I'm remembering what project you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you was talking about. I was talking about the one after he passed.

Okay, my bad. Oh, when he actually, after he passed, I mean, we took time and to like to think about things like that because we were, I will assign Empire, and Empire was really close with the group. and Gazi just came to us and like, yo, bro, like, you know, let's just do a members only volume 4

a little tribute album for Gile. Right. And, like, yeah, that's how I happened. Okay. She was far, though. Do you feel, yeah, you were satisfied with it? I feel about the response. I was satisfied with it, you feel me?

It was, it could have been a lot, like, not better per se, but, like, we just had to, like, it was not, it wasn't rushed, but, like, it was, I don't know, it could have been a lot better, but I was basically satisfied with the album because I don't know. I feel like a lot of things could be better in life

and that's just how I feel. Could you, is the group like close enough? Do you think there will be another project or what your thoughts on that? Yes, there definitely will be another like M.O. project but it would just be like, you know, it wouldn't be of volume five. No, you feel me?

I'm not going to speak on volume five because I don't know nothing about that. But you will definitely get another group tape from us. Okay. have y'all like recorded or i feel like y'all are like kind of separate and like i don't know how much you have to do with each other to be a lot okay still a lot you feel me like we see each other every day we live with each other oh okay yeah oh yeah that's too it depends on like who you see that's an MO okay because like the structure and the dynamic

is totally different now right you feel me but yeah we still everybody still like get along and like talk every day type of shit were you ever close with ski mask or was the B kind of just I was always close for him you were always close from him yeah because he was around us and shit okay yeah but then how did that end up sparking off between you um it was just some like petty shit right like petty shit because like I don't know it was it was just something we brothers bro we clash heads

you feel me I'm not I'm not about to speak like what our business has but just know it was on some petty shit but did you you felt like he wasn't necessarily being a part of the group or giving a fuck about y'all or about you or what was the attitude he gave a fuck okay you feel me but I didn't in the time when we we were like you know like having troubles and shit like I didn't really see it from like you know his standpoint you feel me and he didn't see it from my standpoint either right so that's why we like talk like you know face-to-face on face time to see what you feel what caused it was causing the problem and the solution of the problem but what's I was saying I mean I mean you

I mean, Schemannes kind of removed himself from that universe, even before X died in a way. Like, it felt like he kind of, for his own sanity, sort of, like, moved away from a lot of it and was trying to, like, sort of do his own thing as an artist and shit. Yeah, I mean, dude, like, everybody goes through a lot of shit and everyone has their own demons. And, like, it hits people differently. And, like, you know, he did go, like, distant from us as a solo artist. But, you know, if that made him happy, if that made him. him, you know, financially better and, like, mentally just okay, that's all we care about.

Did you ever have a conversation with him after this shit went down on Instagram live, like squashing it or? Squashing what? With ski match, like, do y'all ever smooth it out at all? What you mean? Just the, you guys were talking shit about each other on live and shit. Oh, yeah. You were.

That's when, that's when, like, we, like, called each other in FaceTime. Then, like, you know, he explained his side and I explained my side. And it's like we was both wrong. Right. We just didn't see it like that because anger and like all this emotional shit. But we brothers at the end of the day. Brothers clash. That would always be my brother.

Okay. You feel me? But shot out of ski. Shout out of ski. I was talking to ski about ski the other day. Just being like, yo, like what has he been doing? Like, like what is his, you know, has he been partying, quote unquote? Like just, I was just curious about where he was, where he was at.

And he's like, yeah, he's sitting next to me playing fucking 2K right now. I'm like, oh. Every time I see him, he was working. He's a mystery, you know? Yeah. He'd be taking the shit serious. Is this interesting because you never see young rappers, like, just take a year off and be away from the scene and be away from putting shit out? Like, most rappers are so thirsty to just keep doing shit and get people's attention.

I think he's, like, a really amazing rapper and artist. And so I think he can take that much time and his fan base will wait. But it's interesting to see him actually do it because. most rappers just don't really do that until they get maybe more established. No, for sure. I don't know. He knows he has a fucking big ass cult following. That was fucking Jod's best friend.

You feel me? They both was fine, like in their own way. And like he will always have them cold following fans just like everybody else at him. Like, BASE has his cult following. I have my own cult following. Flyboy got his own cult following. Like we, everyone in the group has, you know, I feel like everybody in the group could do that. but like as this point right now because of COVID we got to stay consistent right just expect new music

from us like real real real real real soon yeah you've been recording a lot I've been recording a lot really a lot I've been overworking myself okay but in my mind I really don't see like I don't believe in overworking because like at the end it'll all I'll be satisfied at the end right but technically I've been fucking overworking myself fucking tired as fuck yeah hell yeah that's what's up Are you, like, planning on, like, your next thing, your next project you put out, you're going to, like, push it really hard and, like, make it a, like, like, you're going to treat, like, a real album, or? I mean, the next project, I'm a release. It's mainly going to be more towards, like, my hard hit and shit, because my last, my debut album was basically an experimental project album, Moon. And it was, like, you know, focusing on the alternative sound.

And I was really rapping and doing hard shit, like how I used to. Right. But this upcoming project is by the hit, bro. Yeah. What do you think your fans want from you? Because your biggest songs are the ones that are fucking basically. Yeah, they want the old trunks back, man. The old trunks never left.

I just took time to evolve. You feel me? Like, I still want to give y'all, like, the trunks that y'all looking for times 10. Right. You feel me? And, like, I've been experimenting with shit and, like, you know, y'all going, y'all going like it. Y'all going to like it.

Just know that. I don't like it. And the features, features going to be crazy. Who else we got? Who's on it? I'm not saying nothing. Oh, shit. They have to find out.

Because since I've been in LA, man, like, I've been blessed with a lot, like, fortunately, and I thank the universe for it, you feel me. I'm not going to say too much on here, but just no very big things are coming soon. Shouts out to luxury tax from Cactus Jack. You feel me? That's the homie. He's been showing me none but love since I've been on here. You're signing the Cactus Jack?

Huh? You're signing to Cactus Jack? No. I'm signed to myself. Exclusive. I'm signed to myself, but Cactus Jack is. You might want to sign to Travis Scott, too, realistically. tap in

Travis Duh I'm not saying anymore but Travis you know what's up like yeah interesting

I'm not saying no more No more You got more face tattoos on the way Are you capped up I'm capped out I'm capped out Really okay I'm really

I'm capped out No more space I mean you do But you just have to go Like full face tattoo Not exactly like Like every Nah

I feel like I'm good Yeah Yeah Eventually I thought about Not eventually Like I thought about like trying like removing my face tattoos

and getting new ones. Oh, okay. But like I'm not going to do that. It's kind of crazy. Like getting face tattoos seems like a very Xanax part of your life thing. Majority of it was.

Majority of it was, yeah, I swear. Majority of it was. Doing Xanax made getting mad face tattoos seem like a good idea, right? My first face tattoos was off bars. Yeah. And I got like four at the same time. The dude with Anne Frank on his face,

I would say that's probably a Zanex decision. Yeah. Arnold the goat, though. I fought my honor. One time I went to Bruno's house, I saw I seen Arnold there. For real? Yeah.

No, no. I ain't a lot. Everybody close. Right. Yeah, everybody that being Florida, that being the music shit, everybody close. Right.

And we all fault in them and shit. Yeah. I wonder how many face tattoos weren't done on Xanax. I would say a large percentage. I would have to look at myself in the man. Not you, but just like the world in general.

Oh, shit. I feel like a good majority of people who got face tattoos without drugs. This is my question is, now that all the hottest music coming out of Florida is basically about shooting other people. Like, are you

going to become that kind of rapper? No. Smoking on packs and, no? We is smoking on a pack, but no. You're not like smoking on a pack of so-and-so? Oh, nah, see? I'm going to leave that over there with that. That's the Joe shit. I mean, like, I could do that with it. I feel like people actually

want you to do that. And if you put on music like that, it would go crazy. I'm not going to let no one put me in a weird state and take me out my element to speak upon them with my lyrics. You feel? me you got to do some fuck shit you feel me even then I'm not even about to speak on you because you don't deserve my energy

but I understand because drill rappers they got to do that shit you feel me because that's what they do but I don't label myself as a a dro rapper a rapper for sure but more like a musician you feel me like a real artist because I could dibble and dabble with every fucking thing

definitely I feel like a lot of people are sleeping on me too who are you fucking with like at this point like who inspires you musically or gets you interested I listen to a lot of Juice World. Oh, really? A lot of Juice World. Like, I'm a very big fan of Juice World.

Like, I can relate. You feel like him and X are the best of this generation? Yeah, basically. I would say that. I would say that. I don't know if anyone would consider that controversial. I mean, and just in my opinion, I feel like they did some big shit. But especially, like, Jha, like, he did some, like, if he did some crazy shit with his music.

I don't know what Juice World's career would have looked like if it wasn't for X. I feel like X probably. made Juice World in some ways the artist that he was as well. I mean, I know for a fact, Juice World was a fan of M.O. Yeah. Before he passed away. They DM'd and shit, yeah.

Yeah, like, I ain't a lot. He wanted to be in members only. We were just on Twitter. Bro, it's all on Twitter. You can fucking look it up whatever the case you want to do, but he wanted to be in members only on one point. And, like, we were just so busy that, like, we didn't even see that shit until he passed away.

I think I was, maybe one of the only people that was in the studio the night that Jews made that song about peeping X. The night, I think that was the night that X died. That's legends, right? Yeah, and I pulled up to the studio and he was making that song and, you know, like, he was really

fucked up off X dying. Like, it wasn't like just some rapper died. Like, he was really in a state. Like, he was fucked up over it. His music impacted a lot of people's lives, bro. And, like, I don't know. But with Juice's music, is different, though, because, like, he raps about,

you know, suffering against, like, addiction with drugs and, like, you know, There's a lot of relatable shit that I could relate on. Yeah. Like, oh, no. His music had different. The other day my girl was playing, like, some pop Spotify playlist or some shit, and all of a sudden I realized that I was listening to, like,

some weird pop cover of sad. And I'm like, whoa. Pop cover? It was, I don't know, some pop star artist or whatever, and I'm, like, listening to it thinking it's a normal song, and then I realize it's the lyrics to sad. And I'm like, oh, wow. Like, that's kind of crazy to think that, like, you know,

like, are all these songs? are like being covered and treated like their fucking Christmas songs or some shit like they might never go away people are gonna be performing these songs like That's dope. That's bugged out. That's dope.

That's dope. That's dope. That's dope. That's dope. That's some dope shit. Okay. So when do you think you're driving this project? I don't have a date yet.

But I've been releasing a lot of snippets out that I currently archived. I'll be posting more shit soon. I noticed that your Instagram's got nothing on it. Had nothing on it. No. Nothing on it. I like to.

I don't know. Very rare. Very rare indeed. Very, very right. But, no, I just wanted to be mysterious. And, like, I wanted to, like, take time off social media as well. And, like, what I'm really focusing on when it comes to... And I just, like, went through this, like, two weeks ago when I first landed in L.A.,

just to see everybody and shit, I'm, like, clear my mind. But from now on, I'm basically just focusing when it comes to my social media, my music, I'm focusing on mental health and people that's really going through shit in life. That, like, I want them to feel that they're not alone. alone. You know what I'm saying? Because it sucks, bro. Like, having depression, having anxiety and having like personal problems that other people think are bad and getting judged for it, bro, that shit sucks. Compare your mental health right now to when you are on the revenge tour. How do you feel? Like, do you feel like you're like way better equipped to face the world every day than you

were when you were younger that thing? Um, yeah. Like, I've gained a lot, a lot of knowledge. Yeah. But like, I don't know, bro. Everybody has their ups and downs and shit. And like, my current state right now, like, I'm happy to be alive. I'm happy to be in this position because it could be worse. But I don't know, bro. I'll be in my head a lot. Yeah, like, I don't know. I feel it.

Well, I'm looking forward to the new project. Me too. Got to see that shit. Me too. As a matter of fact, I got your number. I'll just send it to you. I need that. Yeah.

Let's go. Exclusive. Anything else you want to say to the people out there? Yes, of course. So one, I have my brother base antenna in the building with his, you know, artist, Scarlet's Blade. And I would like to, you know, introduce them to the world real quick. Oh, okay. Y'all, y'all, can you all come to the camera real quick, man?

Oh, she's an artist. Okay. And he comes through in the Balenciaga socks shoes. Yeah, she got the Balenciaga socks shoes, got the big ones. She got some boots. So look. Hey, come take the mic. Tell them.

Tell them. I'm straight. All types of shit. We got Scarlett and her blade over here. coming to you from like 2021 until like the rest of forever you know me come on talk your shit sorry what you got to say I ain't got no shit to talk bitch I'm high and drunk but um hey hello she's shy but she's going she about to go up though

when you bring your drunk friends on the podcast he went out and found himself an artist look at that that's a good move I got a basement on the CEO shit big CEO shit but shots out to everybody back in the east sounds out to rich fetti and p fetti streets fetti shout out to the whole fettie man My daughter, San 1K, my daughter, C-Tric. This was a great interview. No, this was a great interview. I appreciate you be talking to us too, like talking to OG.

For sure. But we had keys on here the other day. Oh, yeah, he's funny. Rare. Rare. Yeah, show's out the keys. He's funny, yeah, his fried ass. Yo, I just thought of a really good question

that I could ask you, and I'm not going to get super specific. Now, get super specific, man, because this is what we do in the, coolest podcast thoughts on x's instagram account going live after his passing should that ever happen again that happened you don't remember that that happened oh i guess we could talk about that off camera but yeah i didn't know i never knew that happened yeah i mean shit that's technical that was kind of saw some blog posts about it surprising yeah kind of i was sleep seems like a strange move but hey whatever yeah whatever kid trunks throw you in the trunk item 22

Put you in the snooze. Drinking water. With some juice. With some juice. Don't do drugs. And some foos. And some foos. That's it, man.

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