No Jumper - The Kristen Hancher Interview: From Tiktok to Onlyfans, Getting Banned & More

Episode Date: January 10, 2022

Kristen Hancher went from Musically to Tiktok and built her following for years! She talks about her come up, transitioning to OnlyFans, her ex manager stealing from her, her new music and more! https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdMHnT5k/ https://www.instagram.com/kristenhanc... ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And today we have Christian Hanscher in the building. And we're just having a very invigorated conversation about Tim Hortons. We are. Yes. I'm Canadian. So my parents got me this for Christmas. Well, like a little stocking gift. Right. Yeah. But it's cute, right? Right. But then I just had to break it to you. I said there is Tim Hortons in America. She said, no, there isn't. I said, I think there's a couple. I googled it. There's 621. What the fuck?

You said two, though. 621. You claimed there was two. I personally believe that I went to one in Manhattan one time, and I believe that I also maybe went to one in Vegas. What do you mean? Believe either you did or you didn't. Okay.

I'm 38 years old, and if this Manhattan one did occur, it was at least 10 years ago. So my memory is really not great. Respect. About anything. Respect. Right. Gotcha. But Tim Hortons is just a big.

part of being Canadian, huh? I guess so. I've just always been a Tim Horton stand. I order something really weird from there. I go, I get like a BLT without the lettuce and then I add cheese, but like I do that in America too. What do you have against lettuce? Okay, here's the thing. I love salad on its own. Okay. I hate salad on sandwiches or any of that shit. But the tomato doesn't count? Oh, I fucking, I am obsessed with tomatoes. Yeah. Yeah, but that shit. I don't, everything with salt. Ooh. So good.

Childhood trauma scarred you so bad that you can't just enjoy some lettuce and bread. Oh, so many things. Wow. It's all intertwined. Really? Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. So you grew up where in Canada?

Small town Milton. Only a few people will know that. But I got kicked out of my house when I was 16 and I moved to Etobo, Toronto area. That's where I was in school for high school because I did school of the arts and all that. and I got my first apartment when I was 16 years old. Why did you get kicked out of 16? So

traveling to traveling from Milton to Toronto slash Atobico or where the fuck you want to call it I had to take

I had to walk 20 minutes and then I had to take the train and then I had to bus and then subway and then bus again to school every day there and back so how long that would take a couple hours?

About an hour and a half two hours depending on what the fuck's going on. So sometimes I want to go back home. And on top of that, I was like smoking weed. My parents were very against weed at that point, which is fucking stupid. Because my brother and my dad now smoked together and he's like, what, like 16?

Yeah, but telling your 16-year-old not to smoke weed is like telling your like, you're like, you know, 12-year-old not to drop the car. Yeah, but like have that same energy. It's worse for you when you're younger, right? Have that same energy with my little brother, right? Yeah, but that's the first kid always gets the super strict rules. I saw that with my sister where once she started going through the same things I was going through, my parents were way less strict because they saw that it didn't matter that they were strict with me. It's true.

It's very true. The first child always gets shits on. Shit's on. Shit on. Shit on. There's other ways to put it. There you. Something like that.

But yeah. So I got my first apartment when I was 16. And then at 17 years old, I moved to L.A. And your parents weren't worried about you that you. you were 16 living on your own? It was weird. How'd you have money? Social media.

Oh, even then. Yeah, so I started when I was, I really blew up on social media when I was 15. Whoa, I didn't realize it was that. It's crazy, yeah. And then I started making money when I was like 16. So tell me about when, like, what the process of blowing up was like? Because you were a musically kid turned TikToker and that was that the first thing?

I'm surprised you know what musically is. A lot of people just know what TikTok is. I've done my reading. Okay. It was a good time for me. I loved it. I loved every fucking moment of it. I'm an attention horror, so I fucking love that shit.

Where do you think the thing was that blew you up, though? I don't, I literally, I think I got lucky. I was watching a video that there's a guy named Sunny V2 on YouTube that I watch. That sounds familiar and I don't know why. Does videos pretty much exclusively about other people's trauma, like their career. you're falling off or whatever and he made a video about or just why people blow up in general or whatever

and he had a video about Bella Porch and you know it is really fucking hard to define what the thing that blew her up was she's really pretty she looks good in her TikToks her TikTok seems like she has a cute personality or whatever but sometimes it just hits and like the platform just decides

this is the new girl I feel like you either have to be really fucking funny or really fucking attractive or both and it's shitty to say that. But that's just facts, man. Like, I don't know what it was for me because when I was 15, I was, I mean, in my personal opinion,

I was not cute. Right. I don't think it was funny at all. That's what's weird. The algorithm is creepy. Because the algorithm decided that at 15, you were good looking enough. It was my first video too.

Really? Yeah. The first one you uploaded. My first musically ever got like 100,000 views. And that was so. so, so much for the time because there was not a lot of users back then. Having 20K back then was like having 3 million now.

Right. But in perspective. Did you feel like you were pretty at that time? Like were you getting attention like in school or whatever? Or was this like kind of like a revelation to you? Like oh, they like me. After I started musically, because things were like a little different like from the transition from going from like

just living my best life to like living my best life with a large social media presence. It is a very weird thing. Yeah. And you're not ready for it at 15, I would assume. I liked it. There had a lot of ups and downs for sure, but I would definitely prefer that over doing what I was doing before. Working at St. Hortons. Just doing what I fucking do.

Like, I worked at a barbershop. I worked as a gymnastics coach. I used to do like dance in gymnastics. classics beforehand. So I love that. It was fun, but it wasn't, I never wanted to work a nine to five. So you come from humble beginnings,

like your parents weren't richer. Yeah, they weren't super rich. They weren't mediocrely rich. They weren't poor. They were just chilling, you know? Normal household, I mean, it was okay. Right.

But I definitely made my life myself. Right. That makes any sense. How did you start monetizing your musically fame or did you not start making money off it until it switched over to TikTok? Right. So it kind of came organically. So I had a manager reach out to me.

And I've never spoken about this ever, I don't think. Like literally ever. His name was Dooney. Not Dooney. God damn it. So you were a lights global. You could have been a little pump. So his name was Dooney.

I was 15 years old and he reached or 16. or some shit like that. He reaches out to me. He's like, hey, I want to manage you and make you money. I'm like, okay. He was, per brand deal, he was giving me like $200. When I was 15, 16, I thought that was so much money. Okay.

I had like 10 million followers. Uh-huh. And he was giving me $200. Right. I see where you're going with this. Right. Yeah. Okay.

And then I found out that he was stealing a shit ton of money. from me and then I was like okay bye and then I got a new manager and he was he was okay you know we're still friends to this day is he managed me anymore no um but yeah fuck duney he was an asshole wow so how long you work with him for not long oh my god it feels like such a faint memory for one I've never talked about it before so it's so like in the back of my head and two it's like seven years ago so maybe a year. Wow. Yeah, but like I also went on tour while he was my manager,

and he was like one of the people, a part of the tour company, and one of the influencers was being paid like 300K, and I was being paid 10. Oh. And I had like 10 times the amount of followers, and since he was managing me, you could, you know. Wow. Yeah.

That's crazy. Yeah. So you figured that out before you got out of the deal, or did you just end up figuring that out, like, down the road? then I feel like I didn't really know how Hollywood worked or management and like how people can be fucking dirt bags

but you know I figured that over time for sure wow okay but so you were making a little bit of money early on very small though when did you start to feel like the like when did you get your business together and when did it really start going well though when I moved to L.A. Okay yeah what 17 18? 17 years old yeah and how

What's your parents' opinion of all of this? This sounds like a lot. In terms of like what I'm doing now with my life or like just in general. I mean like, okay, I'm picturing, I have a one-year-old daughter. I'm picturing her at 17 wanting to move to a big... Congratulations, by the way. Thank you. I appreciate it.

But I'm picturing her want to move to a big city all by herself. I'm going to be so scared. I'm not going to be able to sleep at night. It sounds terrifying. Do your parents just like kind of say, okay, go have fun. Well, once I moved out, my dad and I had a very good relationship after that. I feel like once we separated from each other, we had time to breathe and kind of think about life and how we can improve on ourselves and with each other. And I think our relationship's really good.

And my mom and I didn't talk for like four or five years. Really? Yeah. And then the time before the last time we talked. It was a big fucking thing. Like, it was huge. Like, I said, look, I'm never going to talk to you again. It was a huge thing.

What was the root of the beef between you and your mom? We're just so different people. Really? We're just worlds apart. She wanted you to have a nice safe life, go to college, get a good job, I assume. I don't know, man. I don't think it's even about that. I just think we're really different people.

And because of that, our personality. Collide for sure. But I went back for Christmas to Canada for the first time in two years. I haven't seen my family in two years. And my mom and I made amends for the first time in like years. You're not talking to her for that long though. Who's who's the hardheaded one here? Because there's got to be like because there's got to be one person who's a little bit more down to talk than the other.

Like is it you being hardheaded or is it her? We both like really super like. Yeah. It's fucked. But there was times where I tried to reach out and talk to her, and there's been times where she's tried to reach out and talk to me. So it's been kind of a given poll this entire time. And I think finally now, like, we've just come to a point where I'm just like, we can be happy.

Right. And just acknowledging that, hey, you're my mom, and I respect you and I fuck with you. Right. I don't know. But were your parents confused about the idea that you were becoming this social media star on this weird app that they've never heard of? Super weird. So I start before musically, I did this thing called LiveDot Me or it was LiveDot something.

I don't quite. Is you now? I think it was you now. One of those. Oh, okay. I remember this. This was a thing for a while. And I just came out of surgery for my back.

So I had scoliosis. Wow, really? Yeah. It was so intense that. Like I went to the doctors and they were like, you need to have surgery. Like, right the fuck now or you're going to die. I'm like, sick. I was 13 at the time.

So I had the surgery. But before that, I used to be a dancer. And even after the surgery, I have a rod in my back now. So I can't bend my back at all. But I used to be like, I nationally, like, competitively travel for dance, you know? But after my surgery, I was like, hey, I still love to dance So I discovered this thing called

You Now or whatever the fuck it was called And I'm like oh I'm gonna live stream on here And dance Little did my 14 year old self Know that like oh there's so much Like pedophiles and trolls and da da da da da da So I'm doing all these like gymnastics tricks And whatever not fucking yeah yeah

You get the point So the chat started to be gross I'm assuming not even that They found my asses address and like my mom's name, my dad's, like everyone, like all my fucking information. And a 14 year old, me now, I'd be like, whatever, suck my dick. Yeah. But like, me as a 14 year old is like freaking out.

My parents, I'm living at home at this point, freaking out. They start sending shit to my house. So like limos to pick me up to take me to the airport. Like, you know, troll shit. But I didn't know that at the time. My parents sure is hell will never know. So they freak the fuck out. And after that, I wasn't allowed internet access or anything like that.

So every time I wanted to use the internet, I would have to go to Starbucks, like 30 minutes away, walk. Wow. Yeah. So that's how I kind of built my social media following. Was that Starbucks? Yeah. Recording videos and then going to Starbucks and post-in. Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. Wow. Yeah, that's weird. That's tight. But so when you moved to L.A., you were dreaming of being an actor, not a – Mm-hmm. Because, like, did you not see? social media influencer

as its own job at that time because it was pretty new at the time? Not even that. She's like, I've always wanted to act all my life. I went to school for acting. I was in the modeling industry when I was younger.

So I was very like indulged in that lifestyle. And then once I moved to LA and I really started doing it, I'm like, mm, not for me. But like I went to in high An arts high school Just to like

Do acting right right So you really hated the experience of acting that much that you just decided like fuck this I'm not doing it Honestly I think I'm a lazy fuck and I don't like to memorize lines I don't like the long hours It's just not for me I rather work for myself and work my own hours and do what I do And if I don't want to make money that day and I don't want to do shit right I don't have to Yeah not that I've had like a lot of offers or anything but every time I've talked to somebody about what being in a movie is like

and it's just months and months of being on set and just being there for 12 hours and shit I'm just like is that actually worth it like that doesn't really sound like something I would do it is for me it's just not the vibes if you love it if that's your dream then I get it but I mean it it doesn't sound like it'd be for everybody at all no not at all right I was really good at it but yeah yeah it just wasn't for me right Exactly. So then, like, how did your dream switch over to music at that point? Music.

Yeah, didn't you get into music after that? Yeah, I kind of got forcing that. That was never... Because you were assigned to 10K projects, aka the same label as 6-9 and Trippy Red and shit. Yeah. Where did that come from? My fucking man, my ex-manager, not Duni. Okay, the one after that, right?

Still like him. He decided that you should be a SoundCloud rapper. He forced me into it, yeah. And he fucking hated it. And it wasn't SoundCloud rapping. It was worse. It was teeny bopper TikTok music. And I didn't release a single fucking song because fuck that.

You didn't even pull one out. You just worked on it for a while? Well, he made me. So I was like, I would go into the recording studio every day. I'm like, I'm not fucking recording. Like, oh, God. I'm not recording this. Like, this is bullshit.

It was their idea of what would work for. Yeah. I refused to release it. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So finally, years later, recently. I've been able to collab with people I actually fuck with.

Like, I'm very into the dubstep community and the brave community. So I sang on this, like, dubstep song from Borgor. Oh, wow. Do you know? I interviewed Borgor in the very early days of no jumper, yes. Yeah, he's the homie. Fuck with him hard. But, yeah, like, I love that shit.

Right. It's just when you force me to do something that I don't want to do and I know that's not good for myself and that's going to put me in, like, a bad light. Right. Not going to do that, man. Yeah. You know. Wow.

Yeah. I thought they were going to have you rapping though. No. That was never a conversation? You know what? I would love to rap. Right. I could probably rap. Like white girl rap.

Right. Were you scared of like putting a song on and just having it be an actual laughing stock? Yeah. I mean, if they were going to put out the songs that they made me sing for sure. But the track that I did, I fuck with and I think everyone was. would like it. Nice. Yeah.

I just don't know what, I don't know if I'm going to put it out. That's not my focus. So you love the dubstab shit? Do you actually go to a lot of festivals and raves and shit? Yeah. Like that's my shit. Like we just went to countdown for New Year's.

Right. I work very closely with Insomniac. I don't know if you know with them or not. They're like the biggest like brave company, whatever. Wow. They do like EDC, like countdown, everything. What do you like about the experience? Like what is the thing that really speaks to you about going there?

It's all about community and love for each other and also the fucking great music. There's no hatred there. Everyone just wants to become friends with everyone. Maybe because of drugs, who knows? Yeah, is that part of it? For sure, it's a very big, I mean, I personally can't. I get so much anxiety. I used to be a very big druggie back when I was younger.

Wow, really? And then a very traumatizing experience happened to me where I just could not do drugs like that anymore. I can't even smoke weed. Really? We're the thing that caused it. So you, what? You were fucked up on Molly or some shit?

No, no. I used to take Molly all the fucking time. Right. All the fucking time. And it was so fucked up. And I'm glad I don't do that anymore. But the thing that triggered me away from drugs was smoking weed pens, which was super weird. I was on a social media tour or like an influencer tour or whatever.

And it was my tour manager's birthday. And he owned a weed pen company. I've been smoking weed for like two, three years at this point, okay? A while. And we're all sitting at this big table. It's my tour manager's birthday. And we're all smoking these weed pants and something just hits. And we've been smoking these wee pants the whole fucking tour.

Okay? So I'm smoking this wee pen and something just hits me. Like, and I feel like spit my stomach and all the blood rushed in my fucking head. And it feels so bad that like my head's going to fucking explode. And I'm thinking to myself, you're really high. You're fine. Like don't freak the fuck out. Like chill, bitch.

I'm thinking all this in my head. all my arms go, like my arms go numb, my legs go numb, they start shaking my heart starts pulpitating and beating like 200 beats per minute. I'm like, oh, I'm having a heart attack. This has nothing to do with weed. And I scream out. Someone call 911. Call 911.

I'm having a heart attack. And they wheel me off in a stretcher. And they said, you're just having a really, really bad panic attack. And I was like, I literally thought it was going. going to die. And then after that, I stopped smoking weed and the panic attacks continued for two and a half months. Really? Yes. Just randomly or every day? Like eight times a day. Whoa. I couldn't leave my house. I couldn't go to the grocery store. I had to lay in my bed. And even if I was like so happy in the moment, it would just trigger. It had nothing to do with like weird triggers or whatever. It just

happened. Wow. Yeah. And I would just feel like I was going to die. like 20 times today. This was at like what age? I was 18, 17. Wow. And so does this just completely like freeze your career? Because all of a sudden you can't even begin to think about like making content or anything? It's weird that you ask that.

Honestly, I blocked that part out of my life. So I don't even remember making content at that point. Really? Yeah. So I don't quite know. Wow. if I had no one ever asked me about that. I've said this in so many interviews,

but like I don't remember making content. It just sounds like the biggest like nightmare to have to like get on camera and make content on a regular basis. But then you just meanwhile you're going through these panic attacks. Like I've often thought about like what what would really happen to me as a, you know, content creator if I got so depressed that I couldn't imagine going on camera or whatever, which I've always just kind of like fought through it, I guess, anytime I didn't feel good or whatever. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't relate it to depression. I feel like those are two very

separate things, but I feel like anxiety or panic attacks can lead to depression if intense enough. But question for you, have you ever had an anxiety attack or like a really bad one? No, not really, but I used to do like a fair amount of Xanax and I recall that I would just get this fucking like pit in my, in my chest. Like I would just be just. really I think it was kind of like a very small panic attack. While you were taking it or after? Like a few days after where maybe if I was taking it like a bunch throughout the weekend and then all of a sudden it's like Tuesday and it just starts to like hit you like there

you just feel like really anxious. Did you use to take it for fun or for like sleep for fun? I take it to like fall asleep and I feel like I probably take it too often. I'm not too sure like it's I don't know. Xanax is a great drug to have around if you have that kind of anxiety and you want to like be able to sort of like help yourself out in a little bit or if you just want to go to sleep like if you've traveled you have jet lag whatever if you the way I used to do it was I would take Xanax and drink and do cocaine and that was really

really bad yeah oh fuck man you can't drink and do Xanax that shit will fuck you up seriously I mean you drink like one beer oh you're fat and it's like you drink five beers normally you can't you can't man I take it to fall asleep or like on planes and shit right but like I remember remember one time. I did Xanax and I was drinking on like the airplane and I was a nuisance society. Really? You became a Karen? You raised hell? What happened? No. It's just so loud. Like, I don't remember a lot of it. I just remember playing Monopoly on the fucking like he fucking on the back of the seat. And I was like screaming every time like someone like I, like, I like, landed on someone's property and then lady came up to me she's just like you can't be screaming

out i'm sorry ma'am i'm sorry like stupid like ridiculous so i'll never do that again because alcohol and flying will get you really fucked up oh for sure alcohol flying and zanay together yeah triple that yeah not to mention you probably had like a bag of pretzels for lunch oh for sure it's delicious that's one thing i always notice like i'm glad that i'm not single anymore but i would always like hang out girls and we'd like take a shot And I'd realize like, oh, you're a shit face to like one shot in because they're L.A. chicks who don't fucking eat. There's nothing in their stomach. So you take one shot and you're fucking done. Some girls. Some. Some. Very, very, very. Do you eat a lot? I do. Well, I eat a lot of shit.

Okay, one of them. Yeah. Back of tortilla chips a day. Yeah. I don't eat. I don't eat healthy. I should. Right. My body doesn't perceive that. But, I'm not. I have a very high metabolism, probably because of like all the working out and shit I did when I was younger, but I eat like shit. I feel like my health is shit, but I'm kind of scared.

That you're going to get fat one day? No, that I'm going to die. Oh, that too, like both, but like, both, both of the equally disastrous. Disasters. Have you been to the doctor and asked them, like, you know, how am I doing in here?

I haven't been to the doctor, like, I don't know, like 12 years. who knows. Right. Yeah. So. Yeah. Not trying to go.

I'm too scared. When I was young and I ate like shit, I would go to the doctor and they would tell me I was totally fine. Now I eat healthy and I go to the doctor and they tell me I'm fine. But I wonder like if I was eating McDonald's every day what the doctor would say at this point of my life being like 38. I feel like you kind of have to start taking care of yourself or it's going to be. Do I ever have to like start eating healthy?

Like does that have to happen? I would say it happens from most people at some point where they're like like like even like for me like sometimes I'll just be like fucking I'll get a burger and fries for for for for lunch and after eating salad for a long period of time it's like holy shit like this is why I need to eat salad I feel like a fucking bus just hit me from this burger I fuck with salad I just also fuck with all the terrible shit too yeah so so you don't get fucked up at all the weed shit's out the pill the molly all that stuff's in the past but I love me some alcohol like I'm a champagne girl like

Nice You're in the club or you just go to the raves I used to be a club girl for a while And I feel like When I'm in a relationship I feel a lot more mentally stable So I just Kind of calm down

I don't feel the need to go out Every day I feel like when I'm I feel like I'm very mentally unstable When it comes to like being single Being single is chaos because you could meet someone and all of a sudden it's like this is just occupying all your time you're going on dates with this person and shit and it's like for me right now just being in a relationship

having a kid I just have a structure to my life where if I could meet a girl and all of a sudden it's like no I got to go out tonight I got to like go take this girl the dinner and shit it's just like it makes your life so much more chaotic that's why I don't know about being a relationship like that's not why I get stressed out personally for me it's just um I feel like Like, and this might need therapy, but I feel like I'm not stable and I'm not planted. Right. In life, when I'm, I don't have a second half with me or I don't have someone I can lean on 24-7, especially when I'm in a relationship, like, I want them to move in immediately. I want them here by my side.

Like, I want them to know everything about me. And that's just who I am as a person. I just need that other person. And whether it be like a friendship or relationship, I always need that second person, which might not be good because I haven't really experienced independence in a way that I should. Yeah, because through looking at your career,

it's kind of like, oh, it doesn't seem like she's been very single for very long. No. It's always one long-term relationship to another long-term relationship. You never really have like a hoe phase? It's mostly just been relationships? Whenever I'm single, I have a very fast, very abundant ho-faces. But then you just, one of the guys is like, ah, I like you. Marry me.

The reason why I have a ho-phase per se is to get in a relationship as soon as possible with the next guy that comes along that I can see a possible future with. I feel like that's why I have a ho-phase also. I just feel like, yeah, I'm like, the shit. I can do whatever the fuck I want. Live it up a little bit so that in your head you're like, oh, look, I did the single thing. Yeah, but I also feel like that's unhealthy

for me. Like, whenever I'm in my single phase, I feel like I'm at my lowest because I'm going out to clubs every fucking night. I'm getting very drunk every night. It's so it's not good. It's not even like... Not that you should be single, but if you did find yourself

single, you might want to try like a healthier version of being single where you don't. don't go out and get wasted every night because I'm sure that exists. It's bad. Like, I feel like, no faith in yourself. It's bad. I feel like if I was in my single phase right here right now, I'd be the exact same, which is really sad to say.

I feel like in the future, things would be different. I hate being single because it's like if I'm single, then it's like I feel like I have to go out. I have to go to the club. I have to do these things because what? Am I just going to be single forever? Yeah, right? never going to meet another girl.

Exactly. And you could be in the DMs and stuff, but I also like a big part of my head is like you have to meet people organically. Like you have to be able to do that. That's like who you are as a man is you have to be able to go to the bar and like strike up a conversation with someone and get her number. That's like me.

I feel like if I go out like I just like need to, I don't know. It's going to sound really. It must be overwhelming. It's fucked up. But like I just feel like I need to go and like hook up with someone. to make sure I have that ego still. It's really fucked up to say, but like that's the truth.

Like, it's so weird. It's a lot of clutter in your life, you know? Oh, it's a lot. And I'm glad I'm really, like, settling down now. Like... How long has this relationship been going on? Two years, but we're trying to get married next year. Wow.

Yeah. Because I saw you on the Logan Paul thing and you were trying to be hush, hush about your relationship, but this one is all over Instagram and stuff. I mean, when I was on Impulsive, the whole, um, Andrew. relationship that was already done. Right. And I was talking about how he kind of like ruined my fucking life because I feel like every X or a significant person I've had in my life has really fucked me over and maybe I'm really

bad at choosing. And I'm a very unbiased person even when it comes to myself. But it was not my fault. And I stand by that 100%. Yeah, he tried to do all this like fuck shit to me, but and he did a lot of fuck shit to me in a relationship. And I'm so glad I got out of that because like when I moved, when I got my first apartment when I was 16, it was with him. Oh, so you were in a relationship this long. Yeah.

He never had a job, by the way. So I'll let me. Really? Moved to L.A. with him, right? All in me. he was abusive sexually verbally physically everything down the line he had schizophrenia he would

go and say he's going to kill all these people and leave his phone with me go wouldn't hear from for hours till 4 o'clock in the morning should I call his mom should I not because this happens every fucking night will this be the time who knows so I've been through a lot in my life

but it's also taught me a lot. That's crazy. Yeah. So what's right about this relationship you're in now? He's not abusive whatsoever. Not in some of your name. Okay. I feel like we just get each other.

Right. I feel like our personalities intertwine. And he's sweet. He's caring. He does everything for me that he can. He's just a great person overall. And I would put like, personality before looks over anything seriously because I've been with pretty boys

whatever dude like you're cute whatever the cuter a dude is the bigger of an asshole usually is um that's my theory I want to say I don't want to put them all in a box but from my experience most of the pretty boys that I have talked to or hooked up with or whatever in general have a bigger ego right Yeah, like I had a hairy jowsy on here. Oh, yeah. And I was kind of talking to him and just feeling like, you know, like, and I like him. But I'm kind of feeling like your life has been a lot different than mine because you're such a good looking dude.

Like, I feel like it's just kind of a smooth sailing for you. I feel like the more attractive someone is, the better off they have. Yeah. I think that's just a fact. I also feel like racially. or whatever it may be. That plays into it for sure. Yeah, any, any, literally anything.

Like, if you have more money, people view you differently. If you're a different race, people view differently. If you look more aesthetically pleasing, people view you differently. Right. You know, that's just how life is.

That's true. When did you make the decision to do Onlyvance? So, actually, I was in, Canada, and this is about two years ago. Okay. And I was stuck in Canada because I had visa problems, and I was really depressed about it because my whole

life was back in the U.S. So I was stuck in Canada, living in my family's home, and I'm like, I'm back where we started, bitch. I had a place I was paying like $6 a month for. Just there. My ex-best friend was

stealing my car, stealing all my shit, time being, whatever. But my friend reached out to me, she's like, hey, I found this site, and you can take laundry picks and get money for it. Sick. So I sign up, and I sign up in Canada in my family's house. I'm living with my family at this point of time. And before I do it, I run up to my dad because me and my dad are chilling. I'm like, hey, I'm going to take pictures in lingerie and sell it to people online. And he's like, all right, bet. I'm like, all right,

bet. Your dad didn't give a shit. No, I think he just was like, yeah, fuck it. Right. You know, so I mean, of all the things you could be doing on the internet, that wouldn't probably seem like the worst thing. I mean, it's like up there. Yeah.

I mean, you would have understood if he was like, what? But that's how that's how it started out. It's lingerie picks. So I started selling laundry picks $30 a piece. Made really good money for laundry picks. And then I grew my following from there. Really? And then I grew my, well, what I was supposed to say.

Did you, yeah, did this end up becoming like your biggest moneymaker relatively quickly? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was my biggest moneymaker from the first month. Yeah. Because, I mean, you can make, like, a decent living off YouTube or whatever, like, Tech Talk, I guess. But, like, I mean, OnlyFans money. I never collected a check from YouTube.

I have, like, 1.1 or one. I haven't checked my YouTube in, like, years. But last time I checked, I had 1.1 million subscribers. I haven't posted there forever. Yeah. What made you stop updating YouTube? I hate YouTube. Really?

Love watching it. Hate uploading. Really? Yeah. Not for me. You feel like you never really found your groove as a YouTuber? I don't know. Yeah.

I think so. I don't know. It just wasn't for me, but never collected a check. Don't know how I'm not going to try. My managers probably got all that money, whatever. Right. To each their own, I guess.

Not even going to bother with them. I'm making so much money off of OnlyFans right now. Right. But so with OnlyFans, there's always like, every girl I know has ever made one. There's always like that pressure because you see the messages

or you see what people want and what they want is more, more skin, more or whatever. How much of you given into that, if anything? Right. So first when I started off, I was answering all my own messages and it was very tedious and they were always asking for more. And that's why I think I switched to a subscriber base. So it wasn't a pay-per-view type thing.

Now on my subscriber base, I can release content on my feed and also at the same time. if people want to pay more for the more explicit things they can. Right. Right. How explicit are we talking? Am I allowed to like go into that? Yeah, describe it. Okay.

Well, me and my man's great only fan content together. Wow, I didn't realize. Yeah, it was just recently, probably about a month ago, I released a blowjob video. And it was really, like it was a big step. for me. Because like everything I did before it first started off with like showing the nipples and then teddies and then like vagina but like covering hands. It was a very slow process for me. And then at that point I came to realize like when I wanted to release that video, I was like I'm so comfortable in my own body and with myself and what I'm releasing. I'm totally

okay with this and I think that was a turning point for me because I never I never when I was 15 I never expected to be doing that right but I'm totally okay with it that's why it's got to like blow people away that you would do it though is just because it doesn't feel like it was that long ago when you were an actual child on social media so like for people who are only kind of paying attention the fact that one day it's like oh no I'm actually naked on only fans it's like to a lot of people that's just kind of crazy for them to comprehend, even though it has been many years. Yeah, it's super weird. And honestly, like, the video got leaked for a while.

And every single, even though it's offline now, only on Only Fans. It was weird because, like, still to this day, I get comments, oh, I seen your video on Twitter. I've seen your video on Twitter. I'm like, I'm going to fuck. Right. Like, whatever. Like, I literally don't care. And it's weird.

I never thought I would be that person to not. care, but like, I'm just so comfortable. It's kind of liberating to just not have to care, right? I'm just like, fuck it. Like, I'm making good money. I'm enjoying what I do. I feel good about it. Is that bad to say?

I don't know, but I feel really good about what I'm doing right now. No, I mean, I'm slamming my girl and only fans. Period. I have no shame about it. Exactly. I don't care at all. You know, your, your girl was signed to my ex-agency. Oh.

Yeah. Unruly. Oh, okay. Yeah. But I've moved on now, but like, yeah, we were in the same agency. Nice. I don't know if she was actually, I think maybe she was for a little bit. She collabed with them.

She was there one of the days I was filming. Right. Yeah. She worked with them. I don't know. I actually can't remember what the parent company is. But you didn't like being managed by them or how was that? They're good management.

It just wasn't for me. Really? Yeah. I just feel like. they were taking too much control and that's okay for some people and I feel like I'm really a great agency for people who need that control but I'm a very straightforward straight-minded person and I like things one way especially when it comes to my brand and how I present myself so I just don't think that was working out for me but they're great word I mean when you said that

you didn't really like the actress lifestyle. I could imagine that the only fan's lifestyle probably would be good for you since you could, you know, do a photo shooter too when I want to do when I want to do it, you know? Right. Yeah. That's awesome. It's good to know. I like it.

Is it weird for you at all, like doing the sexual stuff and like seeing people react to it? Like I even saw a clip on YouTube of an impulsive episode after. I tell that. Yeah. Where they like, they're talking about it and like, you know, they seem. Kind of like they didn't know what to think because when they interviewed you, they clearly were not thinking of you as the kind of girl who would ever do that. I mean, when I was doing that interview, I wasn't that type of person. Right.

When I saw that clip, I got really sad. Really? Yeah. Because did you feel like Logan was kind of hating? Because I felt like Mike was kind of defending it. I don't think he was hating. I think he was just disappointed. Really?

Yeah. And that's a weird emotion to deal with. I think that's worse than hating. Yeah. Yeah. I remember when... This is a weird story, but... His first video, his first viral fucking song that came out,

I forget what it was called, but it was huge. It was with the Why Don't We Boys? I can't remember. I followed the Jake Paul music career a little bit more closely. It was huge. It was like his first big song, right? and he brought me in, and that was the first time I met him, and I looked up to him a lot, because at that point,

like, I don't mean, I was a big creator, but he was a bigger creator. You know, I looked up to him and what he did, and I still look up to him, and when he made that after video, I knew he was talking about me, and I was just like, damn, like, I don't want him to think about me like that. Like, I respect him a lot, and I know he respects me a lot. He texted me probably a year prior to that interview,

and he said, something along the lines of, like, I just won't let you know that, like, you got a whole career ahead of you, and, like, I'm very proud. Something along those lines. And I was really, like, you know, it meant a lot to me.

Right. Yeah. So for him to say that, afterwards, like, I knew it wasn't hey, it was disappointment. And, you know, that's okay. At the end of the day, you are who you are, regardless of what anyone thinks of you, at the end of the day, I'm happy with what I'm doing, and I'm comfortable with what I'm doing, and I'm making good money with what I'm doing. So, you know, I sell the utmost respect for him, but I'm also very happy. That's what's all that matters.

can you ask for yeah you and him never dated oh fuck no no no no i felt like i felt some chemistry on that no no god no just had to check um okay so how how devastating was it when you got your tic-tok band for promoting your only fans or just referring to it in a caption on ticot right pretty fucking devastating because you had like 20 million plus followers i 26 million right and you built it up since you were fucking child 15 yeah uh i would post nine videos a day together wow yeah um it it sucked uh when i first realized so i didn't post for two weeks so i posted the video that got me taken down right and what was this offending content it was just you doing doing a sexy little pose and it said not even it was

me in track pants and I'm like dancing and then it transitions to me in a skirt and a crop top okay or like a like a broad top or whatever the fuck and I think the caption is what got me

it was like sub to my OF LOL that was the caption I didn't post for two weeks after that because like sometimes I just don't feel like post me whatever the fuck and then two weeks weeks later, I go on my TikTok

and I film a bunch of videos to post throughout the week. So my TikTok was fine for two weeks and I went to go film right, and I filmed them all. It was fine. And then that afternoon

I went to go post one of the videos that I filmed. So the morning of, it was fine. And then the afternoon I went to go log in and it said, you're bad, bitch. Right. So. And I assume that

you pulled out every single contact that you had to try to get it back. Yes. Yes. I did everything I possibly could. Right. And did you actually get a response from them or was it just like a brick wall? No, no. We got responses.

I don't want to dive into certain responses. But what I can say is we tried every avenue and none of them worked. Wow. Yeah. It just feels like how could any business have somebody who builds up a following that big and then just not care about them getting deleted? It's hard to wrap your head around. Here's the thing, man. They weren't there when I built up their fucking business that they're working out right now.

Okay. So Alex, the owner of Musically, sold his company for a billion dollars. The Chinese who owned TikTok. They merged the two apps and made a TikTok. Okay. When I was working, when I was making content there, I was working with all the fucking team from Musically. They fired almost every single one of them but one.

And the one that they didn't fire, a little sketch. Okay. A little bit sketch. But I used to go in fucking. and get it out, man. Just go for it. It was a fake out. Almost sneezed.

You were going? Just go for it. No, he's gone now. Oh, damn. Sorry I had to do that to you. But if it comes back, it'll be hilarious. Right. But Alex, who owned musically,

I used to go to conference calls with him. I used to go in weekly meetings for musically to improve the app. They wouldn't have a fucking self-timer if it weren't for my ass. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Well.

They wouldn't have a longer time limit more than 15 seconds. Like, I did so much for that, man. So you think that they resented you because you built yourself on musically and now it's like we're TikTok, we don't give a fuck about you? No. I just think they don't know what I did for the app. And I think they're new people. and they just don't care. I literally don't think it's like a,

oh, like, let's get Kristen back. They're just like, who the fuck is Kristen? Yeah. You know? Especially because it's like, it would be different if you link to it in your bio and stuff versus, I mean, you just referred to it.

You just said the word, OnlyFans. Now, let's keep in mind, there's a lot of people who upload OnlyFans that it's not even explicit content. Yeah. I mean, there was Underagey Girls Teweroyam, bikinis on there with

100 million followers but that's okay right that's alright I mean I know porn girls who have been banned from TikTok for literally nothing like never posted anything remotely and like the biggest name porn girls in the world you think

would be able to maybe get throw to them I had a video removed recently for nothing I was lip singing to song and it was just before the New Year's rave and it got taken down

and I peeled it because I'm like, what the fuck for nudity and sexuality or whatever the fuck. And they reviewed it and they're like, nah. And I was fully close. I was wearing these fucking arm things, a shirt that was more covered than this

that was covering my titties and then pants. Wow. And it got removed. And then I also got removed for bullying and harassment for filming a fucking video with my small person friend. Wow.

Yeah. Just for being with them. Yeah. Social media is so fopped up, dude. And you can't get anyone to acknowledge. Like, my girl, like, I know everything she ever posted on Instagram, and she still doesn't have her original 4 million

follower account back. She got it deleted. Yeah, like over a year ago, while she was pregnant, while she hadn't posted anything sexy for months, and it gets deleted and it's like was it at random or was it after a post that she posted it wasn't like it was not related to any content that she posted so we're currently I'm terrified at that man I already got my TikTok deleted like the Instagram would be the real I have some scares like I'm pretty stupid with that I feel um because like I'll promote my only fans I don't know I don't now right but um

I would do these posts on my store that are like super scary where it's just like sub to my only fans it's not like a nude photo or anything but like has my only fans link and then I would have like 10 people reach out to me and it's like hey don't like take that down now right um but it's just sad that like people don't accept sex work like if you're not under 18 like you should be on or 16 or whatever the fuck don't be on fucking TikTok or just don't look at my fucking content. Well the sad part is how there's just like so many people who have kind of weaponized

this to take down girls, Instagrams and stuff and then that nobody cares about it. Like in the media it's like really hard to get people to care about the fact that clearly this plot like or even your band on TikTok you'd think that in like a just world that people would be really upset about this right? That was just like fucked up.

Like I get like okay honestly I'm gonna like honestly say if I got a ban from Instagram I would get that because I've posted fucking titty's out and a fucking barcode and subscribe, you know? Like, I wouldn't fucking understand that. That makes sense.

Right. Like, stupid me. Right? Um, TikTok? No. I, all I've ever posted is PG content on there. And that's all ever post. It was because of that fucking caption.

And that's fucking bullshit, man. There's one thing. Jesus Christ. It's so stupid. No warning nothing. Twenty-six million followers seven years or six years or however the fuck old I was built up gone Right. It was bullshit. Yeah. Seriously. No, it's super crazy, but have you completely given up on it? Is it really depressing trying to grow your current account? No, I've been doing well. Okay. Yeah. Did it take you a while? They'd be like, fucking I'm going to make another one or you just do it right away? It took a while. Yeah. It took a while. Yeah. It took a while. And then.

I did it. I was like, fuck it. I'm going to build up a new account and I wasn't getting views for a while. And then just recently, I've been getting a lot of views, which has been great. Like 15 mil, like 10 mil, like that type of beat. And it's been amazing. And I just feel very happy

and empowered about it. I'm just like, yeah, fuck yeah, I can do this scan. That's good, yeah. How do you feel? about where you're at in your career. Like it's obviously had ups and downs. You've like tried things that didn't work. You've tried things that have worked.

Like where do you feel like you're at and where do you feel like you're going? I feel like. Like I'm at a very good place in my life. I'm with someone I love. I'm making very good fucking money. He respects me for everything that I'm doing. and I greatly appreciate that because I know a lot of guys wouldn't.

My family life is fucking amazing right now. I live in a beautiful home. I have a beautiful dog that I love very much. Everything in my life is going amazing. And I'm on this podcast. You are. Spilling your guts. Yeah.

What do you, like when you think about the future, like, you know, do you have any ideas? of like things that you'd like to do. Yeah. That would be bigger, bigger picture. Yeah. So I've been working on a clothing line for a while. It's supposed to be released a million times over.

But it's just never been the right time. So when it is the right time, I will release it. But I have many ideas. And I feel like me personally, I'm a very artistic person, and I'm a very creative person. And I feel I can put that to use in an art form that I admire very much. So when that comes to light, it will. And I'll be very excited about it.

Nice. Yeah. That's what's up. That's what's up. You want to know something funny is that you have an old-ass YouTube video that as soon as I saw the thumbnail, I'm like, what the fuck? Because my BMX brand is on some shit. And the video where you talk about joining team.

10 you're wearing on some shit beanie which I don't know how you go out of anything I think it was blue hair 2018 yeah yeah yeah and that was like the same time period where L'Lzanne was wearing that beanie all the time is that your brand yeah we had a store on Melrose you might have like just wandered in and yeah that's why okay I shop on Melrose every well not every day but like every time I shop I shop my shopperors right that's that beanie had a real moment for us because Lill Zan was rocking it every fucking day all the time. People thought it was his brand.

Gras, man. Yeah. No, that's fucking wow. Random, right. Good for you. Do you still have that brand? Yeah, we don't make that be any, but. That's good. It was like somebody who worked for us

was making like neon green and pink and stuff. He just ruined it. No. Black and white. Great, maybe. Maybe we'll bring it back. Maybe some brown. Embry. What a bitch. Making those little fucking patches.

God. I can't even imagine what a pain in the ass. So wait. What are you doing with your brand now? That brand is like our BMX brand. Okay. Yeah. So it's like we just make clothes and we make bike videos and stuff because that's that's

kind of like what I come from is the freestyle BMX shit. That's that's fucking sick, man. Yeah. Before interviewing rappers and content creators. That was my thing. I'm going to interview you for a little bit. What are you? What were you?

I'm genuinely curious. What were you doing beforehand? Just bike stuff. like making BMX videos. I had like a website where we like ran advertising. So you were like biking. Yeah. From like 12 to like 32.

Oh. And then all of a sudden like interviewing rappers and shit kind of started to work out. How did you transition towards that? Just kept me more rappers and I was just like fuck I want to just chase this and not just rappers but what made you start the podcast like that's so interesting. Has anyone asked you that? At first I was interviewing bike riders and like pro BMX riders and people who own companies. Oh, I mean you slowly.

And then I started, I already had this podcast set up. I had a store downtown. All of a sudden I started meeting these rappers. They started doing the interview. Boom. All of a sudden we had some momentum and we just kept rolling with it. That's cool. I got to do another podcast in like 20 minutes anyway, so that works.

Last question. Yes. How long do you actually live in the team tent house? Eight months. How was that? It was cool at the beginning and then terrible at the end. Really? That didn't really work out.

Did I expose some show? The whole boxing thing seems like it's worked out pretty well for it, but the content house maybe not. Yeah. It was awful? Yeah, it was bad. Anything specific? Anything you're trying to tell me here? Oh, yeah.

I mean, I'll give away the first shit because, like, that's easy. me and my ex my boyfriend at the time while I was living in the Team 10 house certain people used to watch us have sex from the window and you didn't know not until they told us

at a dinner at VickCon with the entire team 10 out like community yeah so we were sitting down we were at VickCon they're like yeah like we saw you having sex and I was like

what do you mean like what no you didn't no you didn't and like oh yeah you're in this position and then you're in this position and I'm like oh so you're you're fucked in the head if I saw that I would probably just not say anything

I didn't know what to say like they were watching me have sex and I had not only them but multiple other people watch me have sex through my bedroom window.

Wow. On top of that, I don't know why I should say this. We're here. Why not? I had certain people take advantage of me. Really? Yeah. That's as far as I'll go.

You can guess who. Okay. Yeah. I will not guess. Probably not the vibes. Damn. Yeah. I'm sorry about that.

I mean, shit happens, but karma, right? Yeah. I guess. Damn, okay, well, you know, good luck with everything that's going on. Thank you. Yeah, appreciate you coming on here and telling your story. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me, honestly.

No, for sure. I've been a big fan. Thank you. For a while. That's amazing. Well, thank you for having me. Appreciate it. And everybody go call up the OnlyFans.

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