No Jumper - The Lil Sodi Interview: Gangbanging, Beefing with Nipsey, Jeezy vs Gucci, Afroman & More

Episode Date: July 14, 2021

Lil Sodi talks about jail life, relationship with Afroman, Young Jeezy, Gucci, Nipsey and more! https://www.instagram.com/lilsodiofficial/ Stamps by https://www.instagram.com/eli518mcfly/ ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5tesvmDS8h50LkjnSAWMOs?si=j6sJD6DkR4mk5NZZWnlK7g FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFICIAL http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumbert, coolest podcasts in the world. And today, we got a street legend, little Saudi in the building. How are you feeling, man? L.A. I'm blessed. Thank you for having me, man. My pleasure. You responded quickly. Oh, yeah.

Like a man, I respect you for that. All the homies, the gangsters, they watch it. They respect you for that. I'm just here to speak for the people, bro. Right. I mean, this was a recommendation from AD. AD was like, this guy got a good-ass story to tell you. You got to get him on the show.

No, that's my brother, man. I had met AD a while back at one of my shows I did with Joe Moses. Okay. Young, so when I seen him now, he had got so big, you feel me? Right. I almost didn't recognize him. You mean, like, big in fame, not big in, like, fatness, right? Because he got a little fatter since I know on him, I think.

Sorry, sorry. Pleasily plump. That's what they, they brother. Hey, no, that's my bro. I ran back into him, though, at the studio. He had a studio for the Gibbs So I used to record

Over there with Gibbs And I ran back into him And it just been all up Every since again Man Hell yeah Two C sometimes three Sometimes

Yeah because You know Sometimes I feel like We get shit Because we We'll interview gangbangers Who are kind of like More on the

Crazy cartoon Side of the spectrum Like people who make shit seem hilarious Funny ridiculous Over the top Sometimes you know I feel like

We might get judged a little bit for that. No, it's cool because certain people like that shit, bro. And that's why I had to speak out like an icon. You look at an icon as a real factor and a reptable from

his section. Handling his business, being there through the jail systems from juvenile house camp, Y, A, to prison a few times. So you post a grow in there.

You're not, supposed to remain the same. You feel me? You're supposed to growing there. You got older homies that you're supposed to listen to in there that got stories that tell you that have changed your life. You can change inside the correctional facility, bro. Some people, they choose not to. Some people want to remain

characters and cartoons and shit like that. But some of their big homies disagree. And I know they do, bro. I know they do. They want real, reputable young homies talking on real platforms like yours but we're gonna speak for the youth and shit too though and tell them like it ain't all about squabbling up in the county jail and you know what I'm saying game banging and shit like that tell me something that

okay you've been through that now tell me something that you're doing now that we can grow from you feel me don't just scare us with all the bullshit right because they got an option bro but from my perspective having that kind of conversation you know that is the shit that I'm curious about sometimes just because it is like an unfamiliar world to me like having to going to the fucking lion's den and then all of a sudden you've got to be fighting everybody who looks at you sideways and shit you know but sometimes you know there's a lot more too than that that's the truth that's the truth i've been through all of that shit big bro i have i've been through just from juvenile halls you grow through all that shit but going through that shit your enemies respect you bro

so by time you hit prison and y i mean the county jail they already know who you are you shouldn't have to go through that shit again because you grow up with your enemies some of these dudes don't grow up with their enemies. They come from other places and then bang something. You feel me? Like when you grow up in that area and your allies is right across the way, like you know how us in the 60s are. We go to school with them so we know who we're shooting at. We know who we're fighting. A lot of these dudes, they don't know, bro. So yeah, they got social media now. That's how they getting their fame and building their reputation. Interesting. Yeah, because that's one thing I noticed about you is that you got videos going all the way back to like what?

2011 or some shit where you're just on YouTube but in your hood like really just out there like filming interviews and shit like it's nothing yeah because like I respect what you doing bro all those interviews was practice

no disrespect to RealTunes TV and Street Gang shout out street gangs Alex that's my boy got a story about him he been doing amazing contact for a long time too bro he saved my life too but um platforms like this

is where we express ourselves like the big homies want us to tell the world we got a chance to tell the world something different when we're doing positive in the set now you know what I'm saying back then I was probably still in the set doing those interviews running the streets and committing

crimes and shit going back and forth to jail now my mind I pray a lot more because I do a lot of interviews now so I have to be careful on what I say and I know how to answer my questions because God give me what the words to say.

You know what I'm saying? Just so I want the youth and the big homies to feel what I'm saying. You feel me? From the streets to prison, bro. They love what I'm doing. And it's all love to everybody. Every set. I'm talking about blue-red, neighborhood, gangster, Hoover, all of them.

I'm talking for everybody. Definitely. So, okay, tell me a little bit about your upbringing. I came up in church. Okay. My grandmother, rest in peace, Irma Jean Simpson, my grandfather James Simpson. They was the bishop and the mother of my church. I grew up playing the drums.

Okay. And shit. So I came up in church, bro. I'm not going to lie. I didn't have no real hard life. Like, I wasn't poor. My grandfather in there made sure that we had food on our table, clothes on our back, shoes on our feet. You know what I'm saying?

A roof over our head. So that's not poor, right? No. no that's not poor a lot of people kind of want to like glamorize being poor it's like ironic thing that people do no tell the truth because certain people will fall for it you know what I'm saying the real the real ones won't so I didn't grow up poor bro I had a nice life um I was fucking up in school and shit you know what I mean I had I was playing sports basketball all that shit but yeah bro I came up in church um start messing up going to junior house camp

Y-A, and it was like I couldn't turn it around. It's like once you go in there, it's either you're going to become a mark, or you're going to become a man, you know what I'm saying? So I was just, my upbringing was always become, I was a leader. So everywhere I was at, people love who I was. Whether I squabble with my enemies,

I was able to talk to them right after that, just on how I carry myself, my character. I was a gentleman at a young age. So I didn't have it rough like that, bro um i didn't have to bang i chose to because you got introduced to him mostly while you were locked up no hell no before that my dad oh my dad and my mom from my set okay she was from the set before my dad yeah my dad used to go to crinshall high with the 60s okay then he came along on that side and to my side and made my mom and but before he met my mom he was already with the

homies and shit but yeah bro um my uncle he from hundreds monster Pookie, that's Ice Cube, head security right now. He's doing a big three and shit with him right now. So shout out to the lynch mob, but yeah, I could have, I had an option, but watching them coming up,

I always wanted to see something different besides church. You feel to me, church kids, man, they always be like, we really are the fuck-ups. Because we always locked inside. Like, we always, it's church every Sunday.

Monday through Friday, I was going to church, Tuesday, Bible class or Thursday, it was Bible class, Tuesday Revival, or Friday, choir rehearsal. I'm the drummer. So I had to be there every service, bro. Right. Coming from school, straight from school, I couldn't go to the skating ring and really hang out like everybody else did. I had to bang at school, you feel me?

You think that's kind of what drove you more into the street shit, that you were sort of cooped up doing the church shit a lot before that? Real talk. I'm not going to lie. because I always wanted to see what my uncle was seeing or what my dad was seeing when he had me around his neck. As a kid, I knew what it was because I used to be with my father a lot.

Always wanted to go with him and stay with him until five in the morning and the set. I'd be with the big homies and he'd be gone somewhere else or come back and give me and then we'd go home. But I always wanted to see the streets, the street life. Because I always loved my uncle and loved how he came around and treated his niece and nephews.

He was like a hero to us, so I always wanted to see what was off the porch. Definitely. So when do you identify that you really started to get more into it? When I start going to jail, when I start going to jail, my dad was hard on me, man. Like, his whoopings was, you would rather go to jail and go back home to get an ass whoopper from my daddy. Oh, wow. So, bro, I don't know. I always was going to jail, like, and it just wouldn't change.

Like, I started getting more into it. I started living that jail life, and I brought it to the streets, and it upgraded my gang banging. My squabbles got better in the halls. Going to camp, I'm getting bigger. I'm learning how to work out. I'm learning that my father said working out. It's important now.

Right. You feel me? Because I'm seeing kids my size bigger than me in camp, So all that played is part, man. It was just me being a leader and knowing I can make these dudes follow me is what made me stay in it stay so long, like part of the gang shit. You know what I'm saying? I was able to make people do things like and love me.

You know what I'm saying? Because I never lied to him. In fact, I had them do something. I did it with him. Right. It was shit like that. Because, I mean, tell me what you think of this, but it's kind of like in the gang world. It seems like the people who rise to the top is pretty much like a bad.

battle of who has like the most dominant personality yeah you can go it could go either way now but see now dudes do it off instagram because they got more fathers in you right i mean that's and that's just like a way to command respect through through an account through the internet where you can affect more people that way right yeah say say like fat boy that's my little homie from my set but he's from jersey hr geysa he got way more followers in me and a lot of more people will listen to him because he got a bigger fan base. Right. Now, he could be like,

I'm that guy out here. Who are you going to think they're going to listen to more? Him or me. I'm talking about just the world, not just the hood because the hood know better, but the world, because he's more attached to the world than I am. Who they're going to listen to.

They're going to listen to him because he's got more fan base, a more bigger platform than me. You know what I'm saying? The question kind of is, like, what game being is even really for once you are at that level? Like, you know, like, because gaming it makes a ton of sense when it's just like neighborhoods in L.A.

having to sort their shit out in terms of who gets along with who, et cetera, et cetera. But once you really get to the point of having big-ass fan bases and shit, then it's kind of like... You should be able to do something with it. Right. You should be able to bring shit together if your name whole way and you step like that. Like, bro, I'm going to open up something. That's good. I've been talking to my boy, AD, from 60s on me.

and he's been talking to his homies and I've been talking to my big homies and one of my big homies he encouraged me to go along and make something happen like we've been shooting and killing each other for years

bro like this is big bro and I'll be chopping it up with AD because you have to build a relationship through communication you feel me You're talking about a different AD now? Yeah, from 60. All right.

Yeah. So you got to build a relationship to be able to make that connection. It can be done, bro. Like, everybody in the world say we will never be able to come together or look eye to eye. But we did it at NIP, you know what I'm saying, NIP theme. We came together and we walked to march with them, you feel me, side by side, you feel me? But as far as like, just stopping all the killing, just stopping all. You know what I'm saying?

got to shoot dice and drink, hang out together because a lot of homies still got to work on their language. You know, some niggas still have a way of dissing in their language. So it'll be hard to hang around people like that because some people ain't going to go for it. You know what I mean? Or niggas got shit tatted on them. It's still crossed out. It's going to be hard for certain people to look at it. You know what I mean?

Right. So it's a lot of work to be done, but, bro, it can be done. You know what I'm saying? So that's what I've been working on right now, like, trying to, like, better the streets, you feel me? Right. Real talk, like, say these children, bro. Right. Which is, like, you know, from an outsider perspective, you know, whenever I've ever said anything to my friends who are, like, more in the streets,

whenever I ever say anything about, like, you know, just mending all this shit or the likelihood that these certain areas are going to be getting along or whatever, a lot of times they kind of, like, laugh in my face. Like, it ain't happening. before I was before all of that it was my little thing me and Nip had you feel him Right

because you were like a lot of people might only know you from that Like oh that's the dude who was who was beefing with Nip at one point Yeah

And then Back then they just thought I was hating They didn't know the history behind it Right So now they know the history behind it

So a lot of fans be like Man I didn't know the history Was that D which when they Seen heard about the March Right That's when they

learned more about me and nip rap before he was having you know what i'm saying he dissed me i diss him you know i'm you felt that he dissed you first yeah okay yeah i mean i'm just not sure it was brought to my attention bro so that's why i responded uh-huh you know what i'm saying um it was just the battle of both sides like because i met him shook his hand you know what saying um we met up at jeezy thing you know what i'm saying we had a meeting with jizi and he came to the video and shooting and shit so it wasn't like oh no set trip the industry was scared of it you met him before you ended up dissing each other or after at one point you guys after oh so you ended up squashing it okay no i really it wasn't it was just it was squashed it was squashed

it was squashed but at that time when i first met him it was still like oh but it was he was just um like his money you feel me and I wasn't really tripping too I was just on some rap shit like you feel me like who nigga you feel me but if it go there it's gonna go there and that's how a lot of people was feeling in the industry like damn man we do the show together with them

excuse me it'd be big but damn man how many people gonna be tear this motherfucker up right so when you guys were dissing each other was there any personal animosity or was it 100% just hood shit of neighborhoods not getting along I mean it was like probably half and a half okay of course it was

some animosity there because of our history. You know what I'm saying? And we ain't never hung out together. He's from a different generation than me. So I'm from A. Traganston. He from 60s. His homies is influencing him. You better this this niggins. Shit like that.

Of course. How you think he knew of me? Of course. You know what I'm saying? They're telling them the history. You got to know about it to be able to talk about it. Right. It's crazy because nowadays it feels like everybody like now that nip is past and everything people very much

are like they want to treat him like he was kind of like a Jesus of the hood or some shit you know like in a lot of the prior conflict and drama and shit sort of it's very entreatening for people to sort of wash it away and just sort of treat him like he was just like they were treating him when he was here but in reality like when you talk to people or you sort of go back

and look at shit you realize like I mean he was gang banging like anybody else at a certain point he had hoods crossed out on his body yes he had my hood crossed out shout out to nip i got his crossed out but rest of peace of that man it was just um like when he first died i was on a road with afro man right we was touring so we was on our way to Vegas to do the hard rock so when i found out about it i was like damn it's gonna be some shit you feel me like it's fin of be some shit like first thing in the whole people everybody in our community in the in the LA is gonna say all the 60s and age trades just gonna go at it don't nobody know what happened but that

would be your first thing you feel me right they're gonna attack and we'll be the first ones they attack but having reptable homies on east side people stand down you feel me and let shit fall out and see what's going on you know what I'm saying don't just be on no attack mode you feel but at that time yeah he was banging hard and shit man you know what I'm saying and he changed in certain ways you could tell in his music you know what I'm saying like a lot of people say man he was always with the blood shit that's he that's your fake they put posting like he was just a sane and all about the I mean a lot of things he was doing was for the community he he did a lot over there bro for his homies in that community you know what I'm saying so yeah man he he

He did change in his ways, bro. And it kind of, it touched me when he died because we were supposed to do something together. My homie had Big Madbone, shout out to Madbone, and my father, Big Sody. They was going to hook up with Big U and put something together and make it like not just a song. It was going to be media involved in all of that. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I was like, damn, that was going to be big, like, for the community. So it touched me that, you know what I'm saying?

that was took in the way. Would people from your area have felt a certain kind of way about you doing anything with them? I'm sure they probably felt a certain way about you even being cool with them. Some people, some people, bro. But once I have posted, rest in peace,

Nipsy Hustle, bro, you see all the gangsters posted. It was like they was waiting for me to say something to respond. Like they didn't want to disappoint me or say rest of peace to Nip. Is the homie going to be mad or, you know what I'm saying?

But no, it was, they own shit, you know what I'm saying? They didn't have nothing to do with us. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it was a lot of rest of peace from my homies and other gangsters. You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of homies respect what he did. They liked his music.

And it showed when he passed, though, they played it more. You know what I'm saying? You hear people play it more that you never heard. You're like, damn. Right. Like, they're just playing it out of, you know what I mean? but that's just how the cookie crumbles sometimes. I mean, I feel like that version of events

where somebody passes away and everybody is able to still say like, hey, we had problems during our life, but rest in peace, you know, that's a good man lost or whatever. That's a lot better than, you know, who I smoke and all this shit that is basically like, you know,

somebody dies. We're going to violate them 10 times harder. We're going to remind their homies that, you know, fuck this dude, yada, yada, that makes the whole cycle so much worse. And people waited for us to do that. people waited for us to do that bro like they waited for us to dishis name and do a whole lot of bullshit like i always keep it gangster bro like one of my homies had went over there and crossed this shit out

on sloshing and yeah he crossed it out and they hit me and i had went over there and i paid and got that shit did i fixed that bro really but it wasn't put out there that i fixed it you know what i'm saying it was put out there that all the rest of them was fixed you feel me but AD and big you and them they know bro that I went over there like a man and paid the essay to fix that when my homie

did that you feel me just out of respect bro we don't disrespect the dead on this side of the earth what was the conversation like with your friend after he did that um the painting or no when he went and dissed like how upset were you or

we had got on him for that because you don't want them to come do my shit like that. Right. Or one of the big homies we put on the wall. You don't want them to come keep spray painting and on him. That's a total disrespect. Let that man rest in peace, man. You feel me?

Let them keep that. You know what I'm saying? Don't go over there in disrespect that. They shit. Yeah, we got on them for that. You know what I'm saying? But he learned his lesson in note, like, you know what I'm saying? The dead, you let them rest, man.

Like I tell everybody that, you know what I'm saying? Like, they was mad. Some people. Some people wasn't. like the Gucci and Gizi battles, you know what I'm saying, they versus with the Pukyloke-Lo cold situation. Were you friends with Puggylo? I didn't know him personally.

Okay. But when I got over there with Gizi, I heard a lot about him. And I went to his hood and making Georgia, and I gained a lot of respect and earned respect from his homies. And they told me a lot about him, homie, to know that he was a good nigga and he was somebody over there from his hood. You know what I'm saying?

So that's why I, spoke up for that in that situation, you know what I mean? It wasn't no disrespect to either side. It was just a hot moment. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's like this is somebody from gangster. And you're just dissing a dead homie in front of me. And I'm not going to say nothing.

That's like somebody dissing your homie. And you're just going to stand there. Couple of y'all, I'm just, this is your boy, though, Adam? Listen, this is your boy. Yeah. I'm talking about you take care of his kids. Like, because he passed away. You're looking out for his kids.

You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. I mean, on one hand, you could look at Jeezy and so he handled it in a pretty mature way. No, no. That's what I tell everybody. Like he said in his interview, he prepared himself for that. That's what a lot of people don't understand.

Like he prepared itself mentally to be disrespected like that. Like a lot of people, myself included, when we saw that happened, the reason why we were so shocked is because I think we all thought that Gucci was at a point in his life where he's so rich, he's so successful, he's so like past all that that he wouldn't take it there even though really it went good up to there

bro I was like yes like about time like you know what I'm saying they they got on the same stage you know what I'm saying oh shit man oh shit

I'm still with the bullshit up until that moment I thought that there probably was a conversation that happened before to say okay this is off limit this is off limits you know because like think about what I mean you know

why would you break that rule and you got money on the table well I don't think that they made that rule but I think that Gucci just took an apartment to do that but like I mean think about how much like GZ could have said all kinds of crazy disres about Gucci you know he didn't even do his disson

he didn't diss him back he didn't take it to that level which you know I thought was kind of impressive he was just on his grown man shit bro yeah he's a changed man and I respect it you know what I'm saying his fans still love him they're going to still buy his music and bump his music and shit like that. So it was a business thing they had going on, but a lot of people in making was hurt. They didn't have a platform to talk about it.

That's true. Because it's small over there. Okay, so how did you meet Gucci or GZ and get involved with him in the first place? Through music. Oh, really? Through my music. He's seen one of my music videos, like I got called him, on my own. and he redid a song called

on my own on one of his mixtapes when we did the TM103 tour Okay But he came out here to Cali And hooked up with my homie crowbar Shout out to Crowbar He came and told me Jeezy wanted to holler at me

So I went down there to the hotel Hollered at him I ran into a gang of Georgia dudes before I met Gizi The making homies like Scrap Loagie J-Bone double up I think all them was there

he's from Dunkin'block they was in the room so my homie and them was like we fin to go to the club we were waiting on Gigi to come but he didn't come out until late you know what I'm saying but I'm like I'm straight I'm chatting I'm feeling to see what's up with the homies

they're from gangster crib but just from a whole other side of the earth so I'm trying to vibe with them you feel me man Gizi came out around 12 or something that's how I end up seeing them like we all went to the club that night. He was just watching me. You feel me? And I was watching him and shit. You feel me?

And then we just mobbed in the club. Then he asked me if I want to go back to Atlanta and I went back. That's how we locked in every since. That's how I made Gainesville. Right. Because Gibbs was rolling around with him around that time. What year were we talking? Damn, was that? 2014, 15 somewhere. Okay.

When the TM 103, that's when I got when he dropped TM 103. Right. That's when I got over there. Gibbs was probably over there way before me. And so you just automatically just start going on tour with them and just holding them down? Yeah. It was all love, bro. Like, he showed love, bro.

You feel me? I learned a lot of my present. My stage performance came from like GZZeezy, man. Like learning how to record and my timing in the studio came from GZZE because I wasn't really like on this soft rap. I couldn't really do the trap rap at first. Now you hear all my music. I can do it. You feel me?

But I was always on some West Coast shit, some gangsters shit. One of the things that stood out when we were watching the old song, what was it, Hardin the Pain? Or what was the remake scene? It's like the worst quality recording ever. I know. And AD, I was asking AD, I'm like, do you remember this? Like, why does this sound like this?

He's like, you remember that, right? Like, it was kind of cool for your shit to sound like really trash at the time. Because it was just everybody was trending off that, that Waka song. from the jungles it just took over like but I really show everybody how to go hard in the paint that's why my shit went did like it did like everybody tuned in like all my enemies

because I was dissing everybody I dissed everybody in that song back then so even Dub C hit me up like damn nephew you didn't have to go hard on the homies like that right you feel me but that's my aunt though you feel me but that song did like give me a lot of attention right even though it sounded kind of fucked up though

It was just the recording quality Yeah I don't know I rushed the song I wanted to hurry up and put it out Right Because it was getting I hate doing challenges

Because they get old fast My youth do the see Once the celebrities do them all It's like you don't want to do it no more Right So everybody was doing it So I was like man Just hurry up and put that shit out

Yeah I wouldn't really tripping I mean the original versions Of a lot of those songs Don't really sound that great That's one thing people were pointing out About the Gucci versus Jeezy battle

Is that a lot of the Gucci songs they were mixed and mastered like not great at that time or like weren't mastered at all back in then them niggas was coming straight out the basement bro

they were still recording in garages and shit and back rooms and shit like that so they really didn't have that quality sound they just had a dedicated fan base that's gonna bump they shit and Jeezy was like a big star with a label budget way before Gochi was yeah he came in with it

already so that put him on you know what I'm saying especially when he got with drama Right. So, you know, was the, was the GZ situation kind of the thing that showed you that like, oh shit, there's more to life than just being on the block talking about this shit? Yeah, bro. Yes, it was. It was life-changing. It showed you like, oh, I can actually make real money. I can actually really build something like. I'm not going to lie to you from just being in the set into being able to just travel the world, not never seeing nothing, not hearing no other accents. me know southern food eating southern food new york just going places and never did it it was man living in expensive hotels like just basically being by myself being on my own i was always had my my

loks around me my brother my sisters my foundation so i never was off by myself but just being off by myself i learned a lot bro i met a lot of good people and i learned a lot about the industry And it kind of like Just all of a sudden let you know That like there's a lot more to life Than just like who I get along with on the other set of time Yeah bro you want to live more now You want to live more no lie

I didn't seem so much now I want to live I man I want to live Leave me alone I don't want to pick up no good Unless you touch me on my family members But please I want to live bro I know you didn't see the good things in life You want to live right

Oh yeah And don't nobody want to die right now and just go out of here and say, I'm happy what I've accomplished. I'm still not the man of my dreams. I got to become the man of my dreams before I become the man of somebody else's. You feel me? Right. Real talk, man.

I mean, once you have something to lose, that's when fucking around just starts to seem a lot less appealing in the sense of like, you know, I've got a kid now. I'm engaged, all this shit. I got a house. It's like when I think about my life when I was in my early 20s and shit, when all that stupid-ass shit that I was doing, getting drunk and fighting and all this dumb-ass shit, it just seems like crazy, risky in retrospect.

At that time, I didn't respect it, though. You didn't have anything to lose? I was still gang-banging and shit. Yeah. I was still going to the set and taking real risk. So I didn't respect it, like how I respected now. Like, bro, I lost my son two years ago. Really?

To a fire. At what age? He was nine at the time. in Albuquerque, New Mexico. I'm sorry. That's terrible. So I'm still grieving over that, and I'm still taking losses, like, deaths on top of death, so it's still hard for me.

I haven't even sat down and cried out loud. I cried for my son and weaved and moaned all night long for days, but I still haven't went to the corner and just screamed and cried and just grief him because it's another death coming, or another death of an auntie. or an uncle my grandfather or close homie

from a G homie or you know my brother my step it was just wow bro

my auntie my mom oh it was just it was wow death on top of death so it was still hard but I respect it now because

that changed my way of thinking about life when I lost my son bro I think totally different like a love dropped

inside of me from out of the sky from somewhere, I don't know. I don't know, and I work extra harder now. I don't want to say that I work extra hard because I don't want to sit down and just think about him all day and fuck my mind up to where I can't write music anymore and just be depressed.

So I just keep going, like, shout out to Fabba. He got me on the road when it first happened. Like, he got me a peace of mind. Afro man, kept a grass. from going under my feet, like, keep me on the road. I did the puff-up pass tour with him and shit with snooping him. I just been working, bro, like, alcoholic, like, working, working. But do you feel like you, you know, have it really allowed?

Like, you know, I noticed with myself, too, that, like, when something really traumatic happens to it, it's very tempting and just sort of, like, work through it and not have to really sit down and be sad about it. Yeah, man. Shit Every time I think about it I'm sad, bro

I just be holding my tears back now Try I try my best man But I cry all the time inside Bro But I know this is what he want me to do Like this is a blessing to me What you did for me bringing me on this show

Bro like This is one of my accomplishments That I've been waiting for for a long time Not being signed to no major labor or anything Like just out of love Maybe God touched your heart or something what I said, bro, but I always pray like just to keep me going

not being signed with Jeezier or nobody. Oh, shout out to United Music Mafia. I got something going on with them. That's my label. I fuck with them now. Big Sean and them. It's just God got a lot of things that have been happening for me. Like, I thought it wasn't going to happen, bro.

Just me just still going and doing music and doing interviews with different podcasts and just talking to different people and meeting people, man, my life has changed, bro, like elevated a whole lot, bro. Definitely. A whole lot, bro, like, a whole lot. Was there a moment where the GZ thing sort of fell apart?

Like, what happened to your relationship, though? We never had bad blood. It was just, I felt like I was in the middle of that shit, you feel me? Not of what was going on. It was just, like, being tugged. like I love Gibbs that's my bro dog that's that's that's big bro you know what I'm saying he was the CEO at the time of the label so

and he brought me over there if it went for Jeezy I want to make Gibbs so Gibbs end up moving to Cali you know what I'm saying and we became tight bro like real tight and then they fell out yeah over the deal situation this shit you know what I'm saying and I was there the whole time through that shit thinking it was going to happen and all that shit it just fell apart bro it broke his heart you know what

i'm saying he was real hurt i was kind of down because i'm like damn now by gis being the captain of the boat of cte you dropping him it's like what everybody else gonna do you know what i'm saying you think jesus just didn't appreciate how great gives was or like what he was capable of it could be that it could be that bro you could say that because I don't know what the fuck had happened

I don't know what the fuck had happened bro but he he didn't bro because at that time Gibbs was on this shit then you feel me he was on this shit then

that's why he made him the captain of our ship at the time when we was doing CT World shit I feel like Gibbs is getting his respect now more than ever before because why

it makes you strive and push harder when you hurt, bro. But you could imagine if the GZ had fully gone behind Gibbs back. He'd have been blew up. You know, he could have been huge long time ago. He had been blew up, bro. He'd have been blew up, bro. It says a lot about his personality that he kept going

and is really, like, experiencing the success at this point. Being a leader, man, and not wanting to stop. I was there, still there. Like, that's my bro. I talked to him the other day. You know what I'm saying? He's just accomplishing a lot, bro. like even out here on the west coast he's no more out here now you feel me

in the lay and shit now you know what i'm saying like this gary you know what i'm saying but that's my bro man and i just felt like i was in the middle of that shit you know what i'm saying it was no bad blow with me or jizzi or gibbs like but it's like if i if i fuck with gizi too hard maybe gis would be mad at me you know what i'm saying and stop answering your cause that's how you feel back then. I'm a street nigger, bro. I'm trying to get in the game. I'm just now meeting these dudes that's already you know what I'm saying successful. So I'm like

damn, what the fuck? I'm still connected with GZ and shit at the same time but it's like I don't know bro. It just fell apart. So you just kind of fell out of touch with them or you never really even had an argument or told them like, yo I'm out? No, because I never signed no paperwork with them.

Right. Like when YG came over there, I was fighting the case at the time so i couldn't go on tour or nothing with him no more like i had an anchor monitor on for two years so he had y g me gibbs hit yg and has g zg like man who was that like that's y g who's that's just tell him come to the studio then that's when we had record it just got just got word you feel me because me and gibs on that on that track too with yg it's on on youtube but um that's how j z end up signing yg and putting him on because i was i supposed to be the nigga from LA you feel me but I had fucking up street

niggins you lose your opportunities and I'm telling the youngsters right now if you want to rap do that shit like because if you're gonna do this this street shit it's gonna take it out it's gonna take away from you take a lot and it's hard for the younger homies that want to become just rappers and settle down because they ain't got their street name up because the homies gonna get jealous and press them like where you been why you ain't been out here it's hard I ain't gonna lie that's why I was like damn you know what I'm saying I I did my gang banking real early, you feel me?

So now I'm rapping. The big homies want me to stop. They want me to rap and talk to positive things and what we're doing in our community now and the positive things and the set and the homies that's rapping and owning their own businesses and things like that. I mean, don't you think that's kind of the weirdly fucked up thing

about the culture, I guess, in general, that it's kind of like people are willing to give somebody like you a pass on like, okay, you were a gang, gang banger and now you can be a gang member and nobody expects you to be doing crazy violent shit but it's kind of like you to get that respect you have to have this time period where you are doing crazy ass shit and then if you somehow survive it and don't end up in jail for 20 years then you get the respect and these kids aren't stupid the kids see that and the kids realize they're trying to keep they want to do that and they think that's back then man it wasn't a lot of policing and snitching back

then. Right. So you can't you can't commit murder murder murder murder murder and be talking about that shit all on social media because that's how they think they're going to get their rep up. Yeah, because they want the credit right away. They're not going to leave it up to you know people going to guess who caught this body like sometimes you just you see people basically take credit for it. They want glory. They want to be glorified for it now. It's like a thing. It's like a thing now. You know what I'm saying? But

back then hell no. Fuck that shit, bro. You don't hear nothing after someone was have anything done, you don't hear about it. So it was just, like, different. Like, it's a different time frame. Like, I don't know, bro, but I was hard-headed still then. I was hard-headed and I didn't respect what I had at the time because I would have been knowing how to talk to Yogi. When I'm sitting at the table with Yogi or Ti and tiny,

I was at the table with Nelly Alden and was easy. Like regular people, we are chopping and conversating and all that. I didn't have I wasn't connecting myself at the time I was still into the streets I wanted to do the music it was in my heart but my work ethics wasn't there I wasn't trying to get it like

hey man goddy fuck with me man I need a track with you boo-woo look at godie now you know what I'm saying shit like that like now I'm on it you feel me and God bless me man I'm having some still going

and I'm doing that shit one thing I saw when I was researching you and shit that I was pretty taken aback by was the footage, I think it was on street gangs where he actually filmed you outside the courthouse when you were turning yourself in, talking to your mom and your dad. I was like, man, this is some really like immersive shit

because you're getting to see. That's at the time I told you, bro. When I couldn't go with GZE on the road and all that. But I was like, because you know you hear about a rapper turning themselves in all the time, but you don't get to see. My shit wasn't out there.

In my case, I was fighting. That shit wasn't out there, bro. That murder. I don't talk brag about that shit and all that You don't hear about all those so do you We fought this and I la la la and beat it You don't you don't brag about that shit I'm a gangster you feel me

But you know as crazy is that if that situation And I didn't figure out exactly what happened But you know if that situation happened now I mean there would be all these fucking YouTube videos Yeah right now if I was to did some shit Because of all the people that Pay attention to me now But now people just make YouTube videos about

Like if there's a rapper who kill you somebody they're making YouTube videos about it. Oh my God. Not that you did, but like that that's just, that's automatic content. If I say some shit right now, like I told her, I said, man, I was going to tell Adam, take two of these and call me in the morning. Because I thought you said you were sick and shit. You feel me? I was like, damn, I'm going to miss my

interview. Oh, no, no, no. So I was like, man, I'm feeling. But then YG was like, you, um, UFC? You UFC, bro? Me? Hell no. No. YG said that? Remember he was like you look like you tattered up UFC and all that I think he was clowning me

I don't think he really thought I was in the US Anything like that But no bro No I mean this is all good I love you bro I actually didn't bring my gun to do I gotta be careful I brought mine

Okay I figured You good You good bro But yeah bro I love you bro You got me on the show All the gangsters In the world I'm connected all around

Bro Every state I got a setting That's why they call me mascot like I ain't out here killing robbing and shooting I'm out here motivated my homies to keep doing what they're doing with this music this dispensary businesses they got going on these stores this rap game like fat boy and a lot of my homies that's rapping right now you know what I'm saying red rolls keep going like keep going bro D3 keep going bro you know what I'm saying don't let the streets grab you because the streets

will grab you, bro, and it won't let go. You know what I'm saying? Look at me. I'm still going. All this that you just heard, bro. Right. From my son, the this is and all that shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm still here. You know what I'm saying? And doors just being still open. So it can't happen. For sure. In terms of that case, how much can you say about what happened in that? Because you ended up pleading now so you only had to do a little bit of time, right? Me and my, it was me and my big homie, we took a, it's called a joint, a joint deal. Okay. Everybody take the deal together.

So we had to take that deal. My big homie stayed in the county, was fighting it. I had bailed out. So he was in there for the whole two years. Uh-huh. So the deal they gave us was a year on probation and a year in the county. So I had to turn myself in because I was out on bail. He had time served.

So he came home. My other little homie got 18 because they gave him the shooting. Uh-huh. He didn't get, they said like 20-something, but he had like four years time credit and shit. But so what actually happened in the situation? They tried to say I was involved in the shooting, a murder, bro, that had happened on the 4th of July a while back. But it was just one person who got killed? Because you were saying something about a family in the video, I think.

No, it wasn't a family. Oh, okay. No, no, no. It was just one person got shot? Yeah, one person that got shot and shit. And they tried to involve me because it happened in front of my studio. Oh, wow. So you really actually didn't have anything to do with that?

No, hell no, bro. Oh, wow, okay. Just because my van was parked there on camera in the bank, they see my van leaving. So they said, oh, you got the shooter up out of here. I never left the crime scene. I was still there. You know what I'm saying? So it was just weird, bro.

That seems fucked up. It was another. Yeah, just because of my name, they try to really build a case on me, like really trying to give me off the streets, you know what I'm saying? You feel like the cops still got a heart on for you? like more now than when you were young? Now when they see me, they'd be like, oh, we'd be down there watching your videos

and your interviews. I'm like, what the fuck, man? Like, y'all stopped to tell me that. Like, you just pulled me over to just say that just to fuck with me now. Right. They're not how they used to, but sometimes you got assholes still jump out

and want you to raise your shirt up and grab all on you. I ain't no probation or parole, so they can't do that shit no more. Right. You know what I'm saying? I ain't got to do nothing. I ain't got nothing on me.

Keep going, sir. I'm a citizen. So that's how I look at the community. I'm part of the community, not against it. For sure. So how was that? Was that the most significant chunk of jail time you ever did, or was there other times there were more?

Shit, the most jail time I did was four years and four months. That was in Y, C-Y. Oh, really? What was that for? Yeah, the more assault with a deadly weapon. Okay. When you were young. Yeah, I was a kid.

I could have came home in 16 months But like I said bro Once you go in here You beast mo and you're from somewhere So you got to squabble Mm-hmm Nicket the issue You got to squabble all that

Jail shit is true But don't nobody want to glorify that shit Glorify what's going on now What's you doing out here now To let this world know who you are Or you bury yourself Let the world know you exist You know what I mean

And not as a fucked up person Right You know what I mean I want to be loved when I leave this place bro. Like, damn, okay, he was doing all of this, but look what he did. Man, what's what he doing now? You know what I'm saying? Helping people, all of that. I've done all of that. Feed the community, all of that shit, bro. I want to do more. I want to do more of that shit, bro. So that's why I'm still going and doing my music, reaching out to people. Because I still got a lot to do, bro. It's a message

for me. God got me doing something. I'd have been shot twice. I'm still here. So I know God got me on a mission. Definitely. What was your relationship with Monster Cody? Oh, that was my big coming, man. Because I remember, like, reading his book when I was probably, like, 12 years old. Oh, my God. And it was really eye-opening.

When I met him, he was scary-looking, you feel me? Okay. And then he ended up going to jail when I was a kid. But when my father and all the hood got his book, it was a big thing that was going around the set. Oh, it was huge. Like, Monster Book Out, like. There was so many people that was, like, their first time they really knew about it. Like, everybody wanted, it was a secret or something, bro.

Like, I was trying to get the book out of his drawer. He slammed the drawer. Like, don't touch that book. He didn't want you reading it? No. I was like, what the fuck? Like, what's wrong with this book? Boy, I didn't get the book until I went to juvenile halls.

It was like five of them bitches floating around the halls. That's where everybody getting that gang. The gang culture came from his book all the way from the East Coast to here. Right. His book, bro. Because I had been listening to Snoop and Dre. and shit like that and like kind of figuring out what they were talking about but then i got that book and it's like oh okay here it is all made out oh that's rap shit bro yeah that's rap shit bro fuck that

that's some of that shit in that book bro is real life shit you know what i'm saying and what i've lived through i had to witness myself as being a game member i had to go through a lot of a lot of things bro a lot of things to become the gang star i am today but man meeting him as a kid it was we got into it. You know, he was a tripper. He wanted to make sure you was a real solid gangster, you feel me? You know what I'm saying? So after that, we had met up at the homie house,

big sidewiring the rest of the piece. He talked to me and let me know, like, man, we are family. So he knew my mom, my dad, my uncles. That's my mama best little homie. She always talked about Monster Cody. You know what I'm saying? It was just sad. We lost a lot.

lot of history when we lost him like you look at all his interviews he was doing interviews before me he was on television before me he he is like one of the most famous cribs bro for sure yeah real talk like you know what i'm saying he was friends with tupac secure like like it was people wanted to deal one wanted to fuck with him a lot of people didn't know how to that's me man that's you it's not me oh man i think it's you but Yeah, bro. He had a lot of people, bro, influenced. Like, a lot of people don't give him his credit and his flowers.

And I'm not just saying that to be his homie. You know what I'm saying? Because he lived his life. And I want the world to know this. He lived his life. He lived how he wanted to live. Even when he was in the set, bro, we took care of the big homie. Man, he kicked in doors robbing homies and all kinds of shit, you know.

To get whatever he wanted. That's how he lived his life To where he was banned from California He was banned from L.A. Right. He couldn't come back to L.A. He had to stay in San Diego. That's funny because Big U. has that same story

about how they basically banned him from California. No, that's the truth. They used to do that. They can't do that anymore or what? I don't know. They did it to him. Because I was trying to get him to come do the song. Let's do the track and all that, Big Honey, Woo.

I just miss hanging out with him hearing all the stories, you feel me? Right. I never got a chance to get our interview together. And that shit broke my heart because Ked Mack, we were supposed to do something with him, but he had went without me. I wasn't able to make it out there.

I was in Atlanta at the time, so. Yeah, because I remember having a conversation with Vlad about how he wanted to interview Monster Cody so bad and talked to so many people trying to make it happen and never happened, and then he passed. Do you know what the fuck with you? That would have been crazy. He would have fucked with you, bro.

But do you know what his last interview was before he passed? He was with Ked Mac. Oh, it was, okay. OG. Yeah. That was when he at first got out, then he ended up going back and getting out again and then the past. K.F. Mack, that was his last interview, man. He looked good on there. He was rapping his shit. I always used to be laughing at his raps. He had the old school raps, man. Always talking about killing and all that. But yeah, man, I love you, monster, man. Rest in peace, big homie. T. Hess. What's your relationship with Afro Man?

Oh man, that's my big brother. When he first came out, nobody was thinking that he came from that kind of background, right? Took everybody a while to pick up on that. Yeah, Freeway Rick plugged this up. Uncle Freyray. Shout to Uncle Freeway because Afro Man was like, man, who made Trey rap? Uncle Freeway was like, man, little sodie. I'm the mascot, you know what I'm saying?

Before a fat boy and... Yeah, I am. Before a fat boy and all the other rappers came. game, 83 babies and all them. Okay. Them the little homies. Shout out to them, man. I want all of y'all to keep going.

7.0.4 chop or all of them. I never thought of 83 babies as being an A.TRA thing until this moment. You lying? No, but I just never really put that together. I thought, oh, it must have been born in 83, which also doesn't make sense because then it would be my... I was born in 83. Hell no. One of them little boys in there for a murder right now.

And I think the other ones kind of... They still doing their things. But they stop fun with them, right? YBT. Because, like, I remember Vlad's trying to get Rich the kid to talk about one of them. Because I think a kid died, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's Little Tony, Free Little Tony.

Mitch the kid was not having that. He was not talking about that. Yeah, man. They fucked their thing up. They was like the next Migos, bro. Yeah. They had a couple of songs I was super into. North Carolina, they're trade gangsters, bro.

You go on their Instagram right now. They big threes and all that. Big deal. Yeah, for real, 83 babies, bro. And that's how we got, we met Rich the kid. You know what I'm saying? Through that. I'm saying, going to the studio, Vibor More Rich and all that.

Through the little homies from North Carolina. That's what I'm saying. I always wanted to connect all the states of my set. Didn't you see our last day? When we went viral, that mansion party we had and the news and shit came. Oh, okay. Somebody got shot and all that shit. That shit went viral, bro.

It was all over the news. That shit was all out the country. People was telling me from out the country, like, man, y'all on the news and woo-woo. That mansion. But they were saying it was an NFL player party. No, hell no. That was us, bro. Right.

Yeah, bro, that was the A-trades, bro. Right. But, yeah. Okay, but Afro-Man. Afro-man, that's my big brother. We'd be on the road together, man, and he just be showing me a lot, like, him being by himself, because he never had an entourage, you know what I'm saying? He always felt like somebody robbed him for something.

You know what I'm saying? It always worked out like that sometime in the industry. So he always moved by himself, so he didn't have an entourage. So he met me. I've been going around with him and tried. traveling around with him. A lot of homies didn't know he was from this set until he got around me, you feel me?

Right. Because he moved away from horseman and all that shit years ago when he was going to horsemen. His father moved him away to Palmdale. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So he was out there.

And he had never came back, I don't think. Then he ended up going to Mississippi and going to college and all kinds of shit, you feel me? Doing music, so it keeps you away. It pulls you away when you from a distance. It'll pull you away from. to set. But

thank God for him and his heart he came back. Pulled me alone. Did some music. I got songs with Afro Man. Shout out to Afro Man. He got a beard. Right. He does have a beard. That's real. You see that shit? Yeah.

He got his old beard, bro. That shit inspired me, bro. When we went to Ohio, he got a brewery company. Oh, really? Wow. Yeah, bro. Just fuck me up. I'm talking about stacks of beer.

Like, I'm like, man, I want a little soda beers. We're all thinking small, bro. We're thinking about, he was like, it can happen, pippin. He was like, it can happen, pippin. Bro, he tried to pay me 10,000 to 15,000 just to move to Ohio. Really? Yeah. He was like, bro, I build you a house.

He got acres. It's just so dry out there, bro. Yeah, fuck all that. It's dry as fuck out there. He got the studio and all that. It's like, damn, man, man, I can't do it. Yeah. I'm a city boy, man.

I can't. Shout out the fro, man. Thank you for the offer again, bro. It's too cold. Right. It's too cold out there, bro. And if you're from L.A., you're just used to being around shit. You can go pull up on people, the show's going on, etc.

Yeah, exactly, man. I would be having to fly. He fly a lot, a lot. Right. So I would be having to fly a lot, bro. You know what I'm saying? And I just didn't want to be stuck out there in the country. I don't know, man.

I just, it's good to visit. Yeah. I can't live. Can't do it. Cows. Gang of Hayfields. Bro, sometimes when I, like, am traveling and I end up in an area like that, it's just like. Just driving through there is depressing.

What am I doing? Especially if you don't have your phone charging, you got to go off the radio. So you just got to play whatever just to make it through that shit. Yeah. Yeah, bro. And we drive a lot, too, on the road. I don't blame you for me. because he had a lot of, he hit a lot of back, back old, like, in the country towns.

He got a lot of shows, like, throughout Mississippi, like, where famous people don't go, like, like small towns, he paid attention to that. And that gave me, he's smart because he'd go where he had drive seven hours, eight hours to a town, and do, like, five shows, drive all the way back to the airport and leave. Don't nobody go down there and show those people love, in a small town. Yeah, people forget about the middle of America. All his fan base are white.

Do you see his shows, bro? I mean, oh, I don't, sometimes I'd be looking. I have to lift my sody shades and look through the crowd. And I'd be like, I look at my little brother, baby son and say, it's not a black in here. Hell, the real. Sometimes I'd be so happy because I'd be like, man, this is wonderful, like, for me to just be able to wrap

to all, a whole white, fan base like instead of just the hood you know what i'm saying like it's like once you get big enough to have your fan base like that you really don't need the hood you always gonna need the hood you're gonna love the hood but you know what i'm saying you ain't got to be worried about trying to sell tickets or trying to fill a club or show up you know what i mean yeah i mean just saying like that if you make music that like primarily just is gonna appeal to people from the hood then it's like a much smaller audience but you start coming out saying because like a high and all of a sudden all right

Hope 45. I got a song about his beer. Yeah. But yeah, shout out to Fro, man. I love you, brother. That's what's up. Big, you said that he doesn't think that the kids these days growing up, that they even think of the H.A. 60s rivalry,

the same way that maybe somebody like you grew up thinking of it, true or false. He said that in a Vlad interview I was watching. Well, you mean not as being severe or just... You think that the young kids don't necessarily like... Consider it a must that they be having issues with people from there and shit. Because you got people from out of states, bro. Like the dude, bro, I don't like him.

Black. You like. You don't like black? Okay. It's just because he let somebody disrespect. He let somebody from a whole other state disrespect you, bro. You're sick. Like, why would you open up a window for an out-of-towner to talk about what we got going on in California?

You're talking about Charleston White now? No, not that. Not that weirdo. we ain't even talking about him. Right. But I'm just saying, like he interviewed some guy from out of state and they was talking about the march.

So he was like, well, out here, out there in their state, they're cool with 60s in other states. Texas and Atlanta, some homies is cool. New York.

They cool out there around there. They're not real killing each other, like, out here. So when you go out there, it's different. So it's a different vibe. So they'll come out here thinking it's Crip Love. It's not.

It's not no Crip Love out here. It's Crips killing Crips out here. Crips killing Crips out here, bro. So they come out here with a different perspective. Like my homie came from New York out here. He came and got shot hanging out on Westernet. Like I was just telling them all, all the homies from New York, they came deep. I'm talking about North Carolina, Denver, Atlanta.

Everybody came. Jersey deep, bro. They don't know the hood, but they come in to see what's going on. They're hanging out with us in, but I'm telling them, it's serious. A car pull up, get off, and keep going. So when I tell them that, everybody's listening, ooh, that's right through. I'm like, all right. So I walk off.

15, 20 minutes later, you, bha, blah, blah, blah. Everybody running, crawling under cars and shit, you feel me? But I just warned y'all, told y'all, warning come before destruction. I know this shit. I live this shit already. I've been through all that shit hanging out in the front trying to be that nigga

trying to be seen you know what I'm saying nah fuck that we play the back field now I'm being dead to all that's well I'm just warning y'all telling y'all how I go somebody else ain't gonna tell y'all

they want you all to be on the front line and look good you know what I'm saying be ornaments t hats and all of that be an ornamenting be out there a nigga like me gonna say be careful watch out

if you're gonna do it this how you're gonna do it the safe way right or you can do it the dumb way I mean yeah because I you know people hit me up and be like, oh, I saw you in this neighborhood

and this video, whatever. I'm like, yeah. But you realize that we pulled up for like an hour and a half. And I came with a bunch of people. And if anything, you know, it's like, you have no reason to just be kicking it in those areas if you're not from that area. And even if you're from

that area, the people from the area, don't want to be kicking it there outside on the block all day. Because they know what goes on, bro. A real one. Exactly. Only a cloud chase or somebody that wants fans will, would hang out on the front line with you and put you in harm's way.

Out there banged up with 20 people on camera, not knowing the nigger come through there and air everybody out and keep going. You know what I'm saying? Instead of being wise and smart and taking it somewhere of being civil. You know what I mean? Being smart about it if you're going to do it. You know what I'm saying? That save yourself.

If you don't want to save your kid, save yourself. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of fallen homies out here. They just be not paying attention, bro. It's a whole thing too. Like you said. Like, there's mad hood vlogs now where you see random-ass people that are not from here that, that pull up without anybody vouching for them or nothing, and they pull up and just start trying to conversate with different gang members on the street. But then that's how they get hurt, bro. They're robbed.

All those dudes who went down there to visit them nip. Niggas was getting robbed over there. Because they don't know, you know, y'all. This is not a tourist area over here on Crimson's Lawson. Right. My hood is definitely not No tourist area Ain't no tourist

When to come over there Ain't no cameramen Unless you come over there You good bro Alex always in the set Doing my interviews But ain't nobody Coming over there

To our hood Like showing us that attention Like over there It's a tourist area now So they get all attention But back then it's not It was rough Just like minds bro

His death made it that way Like made people Want to come and see But they don't know What they really come in to see The police ain't be there 24-7, man, to protect that shit. You still got creepers and crawlers running around them alleys through there,

ready to get somebody high off crystal or something, you know what I'm saying? You still got homies doing that shit, bro, that don't respect the protocol because they hire off drugs and the blaming on drugs. Nowadays, you got homies robbing their own. They big homie family members because they hire off drugs, not knowing. Have you seen that effect to get way worse during your life in terms of people just being all fucked up on drugs? Yes, bro, because. it wasn't in the black community like that.

Bro, that shit is eating the homies up in the prisons and the county jail. It's taken away from their crippling, man. A whole lot. They squabbles all that shit, bro. I seen them and I was hurt behind that shit, bro. Because a lot of good dudes fall over that. And in their career.

It's just in their career, bro. Like, a lot of fools was in the county and dead off that shit. Good niggas. And it's crazy to think back to, you know, 60s or 70s. just didn't really have that tearing the you know it was crack before

it was meth but now it's meth fentany all this pills all that shit yeah bro and people don't be knowing what they take it with them pills all that shit is mixed in there oh yeah I don't fuck with none of that shit I just smoke good weed man that's it good weed man and I may have a sip too

I don't drink hard I'm fuck with champagne and shit but I'd be very careful about you know what I'm saying my life and how I'm living because I want to be here for my kids. Real time. Okay. Final question, or last question that's the front of my mind.

You said there was a clip where you were basically saying that you were upset with the idea of me interviewing Charleston White, which hasn't actually happened. But why you feel that way? I didn't say that about you. Oh, that's what it's titled as on YouTube. I felt like I heard you say that. No, hell, no. I was talking about, what's his name? Was it say cheese he was on?

Did you? Did you? I didn't interview him. I told him I would, but he was talking about. He ain't been that way that. I was talking about one of them. Okay. It wasn't you, bro.

Okay. No, it wasn't you, bro. I was just talking about being a Crip idol and all of that. You had the other dude on here. Like, he's a Crip idol for them, you know what I'm saying? As being a Crip and want to be turned up and that guy and show the kids, he's the super Crip. And that's for them. That's what they want.

They little kids to see in their community. Then power to them, no disrespect. but a lot of their big homies is not going vouch for that shit. You know what I'm saying? They want responsible homies and responsible cribs showing kids how to do this shit. All right, you got an option, like I always say, you can do it. If you're going to do it, do it right. If you're not, go play basketball, go play football, stay in school.

You don't got to come to the set and you don't got to get put on to hang out with your best friend just to smoke weed or just to come to their functions because you're, square you're scared you're gonna get packed out so you want to get put on so I won't get packed out you can still and I won't even call them squares I call them good dudes and good females because females is

out here getting shot and killed at these functions too bro for nothing just being there just wanting to be around you know what I'm saying but you don't got to you always have an option do good you're going to fuck up fuck up you're going to fuck up do it the right way don't get yourself

hurt don't put nobody else in horn way, man. And I'm talking about to every game, bro. That's to everybody. That's just keeping the gangster, you feel me? I can't get on here and be a saint and just say, oh, it's always do football, football, no, because that's what we're battling right now.

The gang shit, you feel me? But if we had had a camera in your face in the prime of you really being in the streets, it wouldn't have probably been that different than some of the people that you're talking about, right? Back then You might not have been as outrageous But it would have been a little bit outrageous

I was young then so I wasn't I was a kid so I wasn't thinking about saving no No lives you feel me I was trying to take them Back then I was trying to earn my own name Lil Sodi Little Sodi con I didn't want to be under my daddy big Sodi

I didn't want to have Go under his reputation So I always was on my shit Like I never got DP the day of my life. So I always hung around older homies that was older than me. I was able to learn

and watch them DP people and see what not to do and always be on my gangster shit and keep my gangster hand firm and never fold. But when you're seeing other people get DP you're not thinking like damn like I'm supposed to do this too.

What? Whop his ass? No, like get your ass beat. Hell no, I ain't get my ass beat. I'm gonna stay out the way. I'm watching. I'm trying to become a G. Right. I'm trying to become a G that.

They look up to, they look up to. Now I'm becoming a G. So now let me flip the table, turn it. Boom. And now let me tell the kids it's an option. Go rap, become a rap star. Become that basketball star, bro. There ain't nothing wrong with it.

You ain't got to be the toughest man in the world because a lot of gangbangers are snitches and they're not tough. And they use guns. Some of them can't fight. You feel? me that's why they use guns so it's okay to be good you feel me you got to balance it i always balance mine i pray i go to church sometimes i miss church i don't i don't go every you know what i mean but i step in there i pray i got to balance it because i got to give god his bro he didn't want to wake me up every

day he didn't want the reason why i walked the pavement in my set all them years and still here but i still don't want to do in my heart i'd be like if i do too much good the devil may try to take me out of this world. So I got shot two times, two different times. Maybe while I was doing too good like me trying to be a saint. So I'd be like, damn. You feel me? That's how I look at it.

I don't know how you look at it. So I just try to balance my good and my bad. You know what I mean? I'm not out here robbing and killing and doing all that no more. I'll pray to do a couple of sins and something like that. When I ain't supposed to church people. Two little light sins. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, bro.

Yeah, I'm out here just being a little sody, man, and just trying to hit these platforms, man, and let people know it's the option, let the kids know it's the option, man. It ain't all about this bang of shit. Become a rapper like me. You know what I'm saying? If you ain't an athlete, you know what I'm saying?

Write a rap. Sit down and do something. This was my hobby in jail. I didn't have nothing to do in jail, but work out and fight and fuck up. But when I start, Writing music, it took a lot of time on my day to where I was on my bunk, to where I ain't in the niggis' faces and hearing the bullshit, making me mad. I took that shit so serious, bro.

From Y.A. to prison, I start rapping in prison. That was my first crowd, essays, the woods and the blacks, and the Paisas. That was my first crowd I ever rapped in front of, bro. And when I got there, my first applaud, I was like, damn, they like this shit. That's a tough audience, pro, too. to get out and do this shit then if they're all like this because man what I could have sworn

niggas was going to be like man that shit what? Get that a fool apart of your homes You remember me? No, they fuck with me though Right Of the real But, you know

Shout out to all the homies in prison man Love y'all man Come home man Do right, you feel me? Real talk For sure Anything the people out there Should be looking out for

Anything that you want to make sure they know I got a lot of singles out. I got one car in love with a gangster with Joe Moses. I got a single out called Cot Up with Young Jeezy on the intro. I got shit with Freddie Gibbs all right now. I'm doing a mixtape right now. I got one I'm doing it with the homie from Atlanta Wildlife. Shout out to Wildlife 100.

And I'm doing a mixtape with my artist King D right now. That's on some like Gibbs and like, spit a type shit you know what I'm saying like that type of shit Benny the butcher like just switching it up like always switch it up bro that's the good thing about being universal you feel me I sing too I sing like I can blow bro okay a lot of people don't they just look at me as a gangsta like so but then when they do hear me see they be like damn even the big homies like even at the homie funeroy I sung and shit like at his candlelight and a lot of OGs did not know that like I

I can sing, you feel me, it broke them down, you feel me? Yeah. But yeah, bro, look out for that. I'm going back on the road without my friend, so be looking off of me going back on the road, I'm busting these shows down. But look out for my new tapes, though. These new tapes, it's different.

It's different, bro. My new music is different, bro. You're going to love that shit. For sure. Do we have the invite to pull up to your neighborhood? Yeah, bro. Anytime. Let's do it, then.

Y'all going to come? For show. Tell him. Get on AD's ass. He'll remind me, you know. Man, AD, bro. Two C, sometimes three, bro. You know how tricky he is?

When we went to the Niggerson's, he wore the, who was it, G. Perico had the shirt that said, this is a blue t-shirt, but it says it in red on a black shirt. Yeah, so he's what he wore. I'm like, you're really trying to play both sides right here. No, but, no, bro, it's just sometimes, bro, niggins ain't super crimps. I don't give a fuck who you are, bro.

you'll get touched. So, I mean, it's just paying a little homage. That's all that was. Right, yeah. Like, they know I'm a real Crip, famous Crips. Some niggas may hate me because I'm famous and they're not, you know what I mean? But let me just play a little homage to me, put a little red on, like, you know what I'm saying? They're going to look at me like, oh, blood, got some red on.

Okay, it's all good. Like, you know what I'm saying? It just eased the lion down some, you know what I mean? If you came over there, blew down, they'd be like, ah, blood, like, you know what I mean? It's different. But shout out to AD, man. You need to, yeah, come to the set, bro. Come to the set because V-Lad and all them niggas,

they're not coming to the set. Just Alex, he the only one, bro. Why? Oh, street gang. Tunes. I brought Tunes. Them niggas from Texas, bro. They run that shit.

The podcast out there. Okay. Him and Spliff, Uncle Spliff. I brought him out here. Oh, that's what's up. They're the only ones like going to these hoods now. They're coming out here going to all the hood. It's like, don't be afraid.

This is your city. This is what you do. Like, you, you're the king of this shit right now, bro. Oh, real talk, bro. That's why I'll salute you, bro. Like, you're the king of this shit right now. And I even told Alex, like, I'm going on no jumper, bro. I'm going to shout you out and shit.

And I'm happy that you said. Shout out to Woo-woo, you know what I'm saying? That let me know you fuck with him. Yeah, I mean, he's been doing his thing for a long-ass time. Like, it's a crazy feeling when I'm about to interview a rapper and I go back and just see shit from 2011 and shit like that. He did, you know what I'm saying? But you should pull him on here, man.

He got all the. fucking stories. That's a good idea. Because he saved my life with that case. They tried to bring him in on me. Really? Yeah. He told him it was a conflict of interest.

Wow. Because he could have went up there and went in on me. I'm that naga over there, bro. Back then at that time, oh, he knew it. All my interviews and shit, he, on the street game, bro. He knows what's going on. He do his researches and all that. From juvenile hall or all that.

He's going to ask you everything. He'd be like, what the fuck? So, you know what I'm saying? Bro, he's a good person. But he's out here. on his own doing this shit. Real talk, bro. Sure.

But you're the king. Salute, bro. I'll be grudgingly accepted, I guess. Come on, man. You got to accept that shit. You don't want to be the king, man. They kill kings. Ah, so what you want to be?

Look what they did to Jesus, bro. Yeah, they crucified them. That's why you don't want to be the king. They crucified them, man. In a hateful way. But it was always a snake. Snake, man. It was that snake, man.

you know what I'm saying that betrayed him if he had all solid ones around him he wouldn't have never been betrayed but it's always going to be a snake in your garden when you got big of real estate or a big estate or whatever it's going to be snakes in your garden somewhere that's why we got to be careful

who are around us you know what I'm just trying to do a good job you know you look like old boy from 300 though who oh my god sported I'll take that Yeah, that's my boy on the center, Leonidas. That's your new name, bro.

Adam, aka Leonitius. I'm not going to re-watch that. That's my shit, bro. What? Hell, when he kicked up boy in the teeth. I've seen that in the theater like, damn near 20 years ago. I love that movie, all of them, even to the last one where his wife took over. That was probably 2005 that I seen that shit in the theater.

It was a long time ago. Yeah, my book. Bill Sodi. Respect, man. Appreciate you. Thank you for coming out sick, too, bro. Big respect. I had to do it.

I had to let everybody know he was sick, y'all. Bro. He really was, so please shout him out, man. I slept for like a 30-hour block to get ready for, to be able to do two interviews today. And I'm going to go home and pass out again. He didn't even smoke. I thank you, bro, for please for coming today. I really did.

Because I was kind of really discouraged. I folded up in the blanket, huh, bro. I wasn't going to let you down, bro. No, my girl. This is what I'm here for. No, my girl has seen your story. So she was like, I don't mean to disrespect you. I mean, I don't disappoint you, babe, but Adam, he's sick.

He said, this is one of the first ones here. I said, hell no. I looked. I was like, oh. This is the first time I've been sick in five years. So, like, all the interviews I've done, I never had to really deal with this. But this was really, I was only sick for one day. And I kind of.

But thank you for coming, bro. Let people know you were sick today, bro. So they respect. They got to respect that shit. Smash the like if you respect. up. Yeah, straight like that, man. I love you, bro. Thank you. Much love, bro. I appreciate you. Little Sodie, No Jumber. Coolest podcast in the world. Check us out on YouTube and Patreon. Like, comment, subscribe, nojummer.com. If you want to support, appreciate y'all.