No Jumper - The Mellowrackz Interview: Getting Shot, Signing to XXXtentacion's Mom, Dating Kodak Black & More

Episode Date: November 19, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And today I have a very lovely guest on here. Up and Coming Talent. Great woman. Mellow Racks is in the building. Hey. How are you doing? I'm good. How are you? Excellent. Excited to have you here. Me too. I found out about you because a good friend of mine, Cleo X. Exxs and Toscian's mother,
Starting point is 00:00:21 she actually reached out to me. She said, I got a new girl. I'm managing her. She's dope. Check her out. If you'd like to interview her, it might be a good look. I looked into it. I thought you were dope. Here we are today. Thank you so much. Florida. Florida born. Barra County on the fucking map. But you're young, though. You're like 21 or something? I'm 20. I just turned 20 September 4.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Right. Okay. Tell me a little bit about your upbringing. I was pretty much on my own my whole life because my mom had five kids and we ain't have no dad. So it's like she spent so much time working to the point. She was working like 24 hours of the day. So it was like we all raised ourselves, to be honest. She raised each other. Five kids with the same dad? No. Four different guys.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Four different guys. Holy shit. This just kept happening. And you were the youngest one? Yeah. Holy shit. And so were you like what kind of? That was also being tough because the youngest, everyone was like always picking on me because
Starting point is 00:01:20 they felt like, you know? Right. Yeah. So you probably had it the hardest out of everybody else as well. You kind of run to the litter you get picked on a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. So what, you grew up in Brow County, but you grew up in like a nice area?
Starting point is 00:01:34 Was it a bad area, et cetera? No, I was just, I mean, I spent most of my time in the trenches, though, in the hood because that's just where I felt like I belonged. I don't know. Right. Yeah. You just sort of gravitated towards that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:50 All my friends lived and it just worked out that way, I guess. Right. Were you hanging out with your brothers and sisters, or were you making your own connections? I was actually hanging out with, like, the older crowd. Like, I was in eighth grade hanging out with people in 11th grade. Like, I was just the young bull always running with the older. Yeah, always. Did you feel like you had, like, a dominant personality, like a powerful personality from early on?
Starting point is 00:02:16 Or is this something that you kind of grew into? My friends, my age, I didn't respect them. I just looked at them like, man, y'all some little knickers. Really? Yeah. I don't know. For some reason in my head, I always felt older than what I was. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Okay, and so then in your bio that I was reading up on, it actually said that you got in the streets at a certain point. I'm not sure exactly what a rap publicist means when they put that in a bio, but they said you're in the streets. Not no crazy stripping prostitution shit, but yeah, I was in the streets. When I see in the streets... That sounds crazy when the girls, usually when the girls in the streets, the first thing you think is like, okay, she's, you know, she's working. That is a good point. But not, hell not. I usually feel like they're trying to tell me that you were involved with the drug trade in some way,
Starting point is 00:03:01 or that you maybe shot somebody. No. Neither of those. Mm-mm. Okay. Yeah. What were you doing in the streets? Um, I don't, I don't think that's appropriate, but.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Okay. Yeah. It wasn't, no whole shit, though. I don't really do no. I just heard of any of that? No. That was totally off the table. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Okay. This is like pre-only fans era. Um, there wasn't only fans. No. Okay. Yeah. So you were just sort of like, what, running around trying to get some money? Um, I was hustling, man. Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. And so then at some point, this seems like this was probably a pretty dramatic turn of events is that you actually got shot. How did that happen? Um, yeah, so it's like the people around me started, you feel me, hating all me. And so it's like, the people around me started, you feel me, hating all me. me and it's like that love turning hate you think they just got jealous of me you know okay I was just always so young and just out doing out doing the grown folks I was always standing on business so it actually happened with some people that you were you were close to previously yeah um where did you get shut as in what do you mean like in your body um I shot at my back um came out my stomach and went straight through.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Where did this happen? Can you describe what this scenario was like? It happened at my mother's house and one day I was at my mom's house and someone who's supposed to be my friend they're like, hey what's up? They said some crazy shit but you know when you fuck with somebody so hard
Starting point is 00:04:55 you don't really think twice. Right. They said some shit like where should I park? mind you this person been coming over forever you know where to park but it's like they're like yeah come show me where to park
Starting point is 00:05:07 and then you know I keep this shit in the street you know I don't really like giving out too much information I feel like that's you know we keep this shit in the street but yeah
Starting point is 00:05:19 I went outside and shit just went left from there damn so you got rushed to the hospital or what happened um the police came and that was really more focused on, like,
Starting point is 00:05:33 what the fuck happened rather than me getting shot. Like, they really kind of, like, left me bleed in there for a minute while they tried to figure out, like, what the scenario was. They was, like, so the ambulance, it felt like, man, it felt like forever. Really? I thought it was over. You lost a lot of blood? Yeah, it was blood.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Like, I actually used my blood to help me get to the door because I was just, I was out of it. Couldn't even walk, couldn't even get up. You had to follow the tracks of your own blood? I had to like, I was like dragging myself to the door, literally. Holy shit. Some crazy shit. Then I opened the door, then my son's right there.
Starting point is 00:06:15 It was crazy. Oh, so you already had your son at this point? Yeah. How old were you when you had your kid? I had my son at 16. 16. Okay. I'm assuming the dad is not around at this point when you're getting shot or is he still
Starting point is 00:06:28 part of this? I was actually with the, I just recently left the dad like a year ago, two years ago, but I was with the dad since then. Oh, okay. Well, that's good at least. Yeah. It didn't work out, though? My career choice actually is what really caused all my relationships to, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:49 It's hard to date a rapper? I mean, it's hard. No, no girl, no guy wants no girl who's going to be in the studio all day, and then she, She got to get up and fly here. Then I might have to go meet up with this nigger and do a feature. I'm like, well, why you got to go meet up with this nigga? And you're pretty. They're always going to think you fucking them.
Starting point is 00:07:08 No matter what nigger I stand to, they don't think I'm fucking them. Like, that's just it. Like, I really can't really, you know. I got to be careful what I show the world because they can be like, yeah, she's just fucking this nigger. She's fucking that nudge. Yeah, because, I mean, you go to a video with somebody. It's like, yeah, you're around that rapper, but you're also around his like, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:26 20 cool friends. And it's like, I can't bring you, that's unprofessional. I'm not going to be someone walking around with my man. Nah, I'm not doing it. Or you're going to have to treat him like Safari and nobody's allowed to know that you're dating? Boy, oh my God. I mean, that's how it was for a long...
Starting point is 00:07:43 I fought with Safari, but I'm saying, like, for a long time, people thought he was just the makeup artist or the gay homie or whatever. Like, they didn't think that he was the one dating her because she never told the world that they were dating. I understand, but yeah. I understand. A lot guys don't want to be in that role.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I feel like if someone really loves you, they're going to play whatever role. So, you know, they're going to play whatever role. They got to play for you to get to where you need to go. A lot of guys just want a girl who's going to sort of be their cheerleader, though. And they don't want to be the cheerleader. Yeah, okay. But being in this only fan's game, though, I meet a lot of guys who are okay with being a cheerleader. They got, like, 200 followers.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I don't think he's really a cheerleader, but. Yeah, you know, but, you know, it takes a. It's just being private, you know? People don't need an, I feel like when you love something, keep it private anyway. So, and people, I like to keep them wondering, you know. Fair enough. Okay, so wait, you're following the trail of your own blood back into the house and you see your child, who I guess at this point is what, like one or two years old, pretty young? He was crawling. He was like a couple months. He was like maybe six, seven months. Yeah, like six, seven months. He was still a baby, baby. And what do you think when you see your kid in that moment?
Starting point is 00:09:00 I was like, damn, I can't die because I got to take care of him. That's all I was thinking. Like, oh, my God, who's going to take care of him? Who's going to make sure he's good? Because, like, I was 16, 17 taking care of my whole family. My mom did work because I'm Haitian. If you Haitian, you know, our parents are always going to work. But the money was never enough.
Starting point is 00:09:19 But she's always going to work. My mom wasn't the type of mom to stay home and not work. Even if I was, you know, I was still doing what I had to do. for my people, my mom was always still going to work. And it was like, I was, I really, I really hold the family down, like, it's a foundation and keep everybody together. So I was just like, what's everybody else going to do? I wasn't really worried about me.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I was, but I was thinking about him. I was just like, wow, and it's just, like, all this around him, he could have got hurt. That's all I kept thinking, like, I failed him. I'm like, I felt like such failure. That's why, like, now I still struggle with leaving the, house with him, him going places. It's like something I'm having a problem with. It's like I keep him trapped.
Starting point is 00:10:03 But, yes. I wish the people that shot you were thinking about the fact that you're a mom before that happened. When it comes to that money, they ain't thinking nothing. Yeah. That's what they were thinking about. Interesting. Yeah, it's money. So it ain't.
Starting point is 00:10:17 They get your whole face off about that money. I mean, it just changes how you think about everything once you start. Because, like, I was always the kind of person that was like, eh, if I die, whatever. You know? If I was just fucking getting a heart crash tonight and I'm gone. It is what it is. You know, I lived a good life. Like, I'm not going to know that I'm dead when I'm dead. But then once you have a kid, it just becomes like, oh, fuck, you know, like you all of a sudden are responsible for something so much
Starting point is 00:10:39 bigger than yourself. It's a lot of anxiety being a parent, especially so young, because it's like, I'm still figuring out myself, you know, every day I learned something new about me. Yeah. I mean, you seem pretty grown up and like you've had a lot of life experience, but at the same time, you're 20. Yeah. So it's like, everything. Everything still has to be kind of new. Okay, so you walk in, you see your kid. What process do you take from there to, do you collapse at some point? Or do you wait for the cops?
Starting point is 00:11:11 This is funny. I actually grab my phone. At least she has a sense of humor about it. Yeah, I laugh about that shit. Now I feel like it was supposed to happen. Okay. I feel like it was supposed to. I don't, yeah, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:11:23 You know, I don't cry of this built, you know. But that's one way to describe getting shot, spilled milk. Okay. I know, right? Mm-mm. But yeah, I started calling, like, the people that was real close to me, like, I called his dad or whatever. I actually FaceTime his dad.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Then I caused his dad to speed over to me, and his dad got into a bad car crash and totaled his whole car on the way to me. So it was like he could have lost both parents that day. Wow. Like, his car was totaled. All airbags deployed. Thank God. knock on wood, like, that's why I'm like, yo, I really have a purpose. That's what really
Starting point is 00:12:00 makes me feel like I got a purpose and like I'm a living testimony because of all the shit that really could have happened, but it's like, God just keep saving me every time, every time. It's like, you got a purpose. So your baby daddy's speeding over there. And then he gets in this car, he said, so he can't even. It started raining while he was speeding. Oh, my God. It sounds like the worst movie. Yeah, he had a GT 63, so it was so crazy. So soon as I got shot started pouring. You know, when you died, they say if it rains, you go, they have it. I'm like, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:12:29 This is the process. It's raining on me. I'm just looking up and it's raining. And yeah, he spent out his car totaled that shit. Okay. But then at some point, the ambulance shows up or what? Yeah, the ambulance shows up and yeah, I just remember waking up in the hospital
Starting point is 00:12:45 like, ah, because I looked down. I had tubes in my throat, couldn't walk, couldn't move, fucking bag on my stomach. It was bad. Yeah, you had a shit bag for a while, huh? Yeah. That's crazy. How long? Like 11 months. Wow. Yeah. I don't think I ever met anybody who actually had to like live with a colostomy bag for a while. Was that like the worst experience? Yeah, you're not living.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Getting shot is going to be worse. But yeah, I was very like, oh my God, so much times I wanted to just like say, yo, fuck this. It's not a life. Like I'm thankful I got it off because. Because if I had to live like that, I don't know how it would be. What really keeps me here right now is my son. Because I was in a horrible state of mind. That's why I'm like, now that I got my mental right, I stress it so much that mental health is so important. Because it's like, whatever is in your head, it really turns, it makes your reality, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:49 Was there just a lot of depression associated with being stuck with a bag hanging out of you? Who wants to be around somebody with a bag? What mother wants to be a parent with a bag? Like, you know? Yeah. Like, I don't want to go around my son with this. This is dirty. Like, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:04 I don't know. You know, he's a beautiful, clean baby, and I just always felt dirty. Like, I never felt clean. I was like, what's the point of me doing my hair? What's the point of me doing my makeup? When you lift my shirt up, I'm dirty. Wow. And, like, it was really challenging.
Starting point is 00:14:20 That was the biggest test that I ever got. When you found, did you, but you thought that. whole time that you might not be getting rid of it either, right? They kept playing with me. Like, they kept pushing it back saying they got to check this, check that. And really, at one point there was like, you got to pay for the surgery because your insurance don't cover this because they're like, we saved your life. You trying to take this bag off is cosmetic because you don't like that bag.
Starting point is 00:14:45 That has nothing to do with us, you know? And it's like, I didn't have the proper insurance and I had like the cheap shit, like, you know? So it was crazy. Wow. So 11 months with that shit and then you get it off and by that by the time you get it off are you feeling like pretty good physically like everything else had kind of started to Man when I got it off I felt like I got my life back and it was just ever since that day I looked at life different like I never cared about money anymore shoes and I used to think that's everything I never chased it it just I just let the money come before I was chasing the money like this this money is everything. you know but when I was fucked up all that shit can't do shit for me you know yeah
Starting point is 00:15:29 I just want I crave the things in life that money can't buy interesting so you had like a religious experience that basically made you forget about that like city girl influence you had previously had in your life like when I hear about girls just being sort of after
Starting point is 00:15:45 purses and shoes and shit I'm like this is what happens when the city girls taking over the world bro don't get it fucked up you feel of me I'm with my Birkin shit, you feel with me? You are. Heavy on it.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Because that's one of the main things I got from your music, for sure. But I'm just saying now that shit means nothing. Like, it's just an image. Like, you know? But all that, if I ain't have it, I'll be just saying bitch,
Starting point is 00:16:11 you know? If I didn't have none of that shit, I feel I'll be the same bitch right now. Like, that shit don't make you. Right. So how did that change you? You stopped running around the streets. You stopped caring about money as much?
Starting point is 00:16:23 Or did you stop? No, no, no, no. Take a big step back from the streets. I didn't stop running around for the streets. I actually, I started moving like a demon in the streets. Like, I ain't trust nobody. I was like, nah, I ain't fucking with nobody. I was just on some me shit.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I think it made me go harder and I was more hungry, you know? And I just turned to, like, heartless. Like, I ain't want no love. I didn't want none of that shit. I ain't want no friends. That's why I feel like right now when I'm doing my music shit, it's like the more you elevate, the less people I fuck with. And it's like, I'm used to that.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I feel like in a way it prepared me and it trained my mind for I feel like I can handle anything now. Definitely. So, okay, were you thinking about rap before you got shot or is this something that came into your mind afterwards? Afterwards. Okay. What was the influence? Was it like, oh, this is something I could do that could take me out of the streets per se? Honestly, all started.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I was in the hospital. and I couldn't talk, but I was humming, and I just found myself just falling in love with music. I just fell in love with music. Like, it healed my pain. I feel like a lot of music just started healing my pain. And then January, a couple years later, and then January came earlier,
Starting point is 00:17:44 and I was just like, I'm taking my music career series. And then I was playing my music for Cleo, because we always were bonding, you know? So you had known her before you got shot? Yeah, no, not before I got shot. Okay. How did you get in touch after that, though? And did you already have music out online when you met her?
Starting point is 00:17:59 No. No, not at all. I met Cleo at a party. Oh, wow. Yeah, she was beautiful. She was in a long coat. She just looked such a boss lady, and I'm like, I always wanted a female to look up to, you know, because it was like, I'm so used to being so young in the boss,
Starting point is 00:18:19 and it's like, I'm the boss, but it's still stuff I feel like. Like, I could have got help. And I feel like if I would have had her early in my life, a lot of shit that I did in the past wouldn't have it because she's what really, like, also she gave me so much gems to now. I don't take nothing personal. I know how to react to everything. Like, it used to be very emotional.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Like, she told me there's no emotions in this. Businesses, business is, you know, like, it's really a way to think. She trained my brain to think a certain way. but yeah I met her and I was just like oh just she's such a fucking boss and I was just that like really drawn me drawn me to her and I was like this is who I need to be around
Starting point is 00:19:02 because I feel like she's gonna like you know like I don't even like when you're around bad energy just brings you down oh yeah she's just light like she shines so bright she's so such a good heart like she's such an amazing person right yeah like and so she encouraged you to make music or um no she heard my music and she was like,
Starting point is 00:19:23 we're gonna go somewhere with this. She was like, you got it, you're a star. And she just believed in me. And her believing in me, it just made me believe in myself. I believed in myself, but the way she believed in me, like, no, you're a star, you got this, you know?
Starting point is 00:19:38 Right. She just gave me that. She put that battery in my back and I was just like, I just looked in the mirror and I'm like, yo, I got to see what the fuck I am for real. Right. Like you already had some confidence, but Her believing you just put it over the top where you were like fuck if she believes in me then I guess I can really do this We just stick together. We can just make it, you know? Right
Starting point is 00:20:00 Definitely when you say you were in the hospital just listening to music and music started really affecting you Was there any music in particular you were listening to or what was it that started to have that effect on you? It's so crazy A lot of the music that I was listening to was X's album really? That's so crazy to me. Like literally. And this before he passed or? Um, like four years ago, so maybe a little bit before. Yeah, a little bit before. But he was also sometimes in jail. Yeah. So he wasn't really never out like that. So it was like a lot of the music was, yeah. Right. But you didn't meet Cleo until he had passed? Yeah. Right. After. Okay. But we, but he went to Piper and I went to Piper too, but no.
Starting point is 00:20:49 You guys run to the same high school. Yeah, I was closer with Ming, his homeboy. We was closer, but me and him, we never really like, I would see him, but we never, like, spoke. That's why it's so crazy to me. I'm like, wow, this boy I used to see at Piper, and now look, and I'm so close with Cleo. It's just crazy and it's, like, surreal. But even just that of seeing somebody from your high school get so big, that must have kind of made you realize, like, oh, fuck, like, this kind of could happen. to me.
Starting point is 00:21:20 The top artist, yeah, kind of good. Yeah. Facts. I was telling you, like, you make me feel like I could be somebody. Right. Wow, that's crazy. So, okay, then what is the process of you getting in the studio? Did you work, like, really closely with Cleo on the music side of things, or were you just making
Starting point is 00:21:37 music and bringing it back to her? I was just recording mad music, and then we went on a road trip. I started playing my music for her. Oh, really? Yeah. A road trip, where? We went on a road trip to Atlanta. It was this.
Starting point is 00:21:49 It was this weekend going on. I don't remember, but it was like a huge weekend. Everyone was in Atlanta, so we all went on a road trip there. I was playing my music, and she was like, this is you? She was like, you sing and you rap? It's like, play another one. Play another one. And then she just was just like falling in love with everything.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And then, you know, the Broward was already, like, going crazy for me. So it was just like, before music, I already had, like, love from the streets because I was always putting out from my city. And my Haitians, my Zos, you know, because it's not really much to put on for who else, you know? Right. Damn. That's crazy. But so then once you start working with her, like, did you sign like a formal management deal with her or how official was this?
Starting point is 00:22:35 No, she actually didn't sign any paperwork. I'm the one who really pushed it on her. She was really my manager for free. She wasn't even getting paid. She was on, she was my manager not getting paid. on top of that she was investing she was investing money in me without even no paperwork
Starting point is 00:22:54 like she just believed in me and she just was like she she just felt like my loyalty and I wasn't going to turn on her she even Bob Celeste and she even like made sure like anyone tried to send me anything like I had a lawyer to review everything like she
Starting point is 00:23:09 all everything she had she gave me access to it like she was like I got you back with this you know like I'm not gonna leave you out here because I don't know anything, you know. Right. I don't know. People was charging me like $3,000 for one beat.
Starting point is 00:23:26 My first song, I paid $3,000 for the beat, one beat. Right. And it's like, now I'm just getting 100 beats for free right now. Like, what the fuck? I was paying $3,000 for one beat. So it was like. Wow. That's funny because you meet so many people who just get into the game and they just completely
Starting point is 00:23:45 fuck it up their first time around. And then they have a lot of knowledge after that. It's like it's so valuable to sort of have somebody giving you that knowledge in advance before you go and sign a contract without a lawyer and all this kind of bad mistakes that people make. It is. Definitely. So, like, how do you approach your music or how do you view it? Like, what's your attitude on the kind of stuff that you speak on on music or what you think that the people want from you? In a way, I feel like, I don't know, I just feel like I'm a superstar.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I don't think I'm a rapper. I feel like I'm a rock star, a pop star. And it's just how I express myself. And I don't put myself in a box. Like, one day I'll wake up and I want to sing. The next day I wake up and I want to rap. And then I want to make a pop song. And I want to rock out.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I want to make a rock song. Like, I just, I love it all. Definitely. Yeah, like I heard you on that song with Ice Roy Vez. I was like, oh, shit, okay. She's doing a lot of different things here. But right now I'm only rapping because we don't want to confuse the audience. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:24:56 Yeah, so it's like once I have a lot of songs of all types. So it's like that'll just be like, I feel like a cluster fuck to just throw it all out there at once. It would just be all over the place. Yeah, I mean, you hear people say all the time about like, do you want to rap or sing? Oh, they'll be like, oh, he's like a singer, isn't he? Or like, you know, it's so hard for people to like comprehend two things at once. Once I solidify myself in my rap music, then I'll show them this side, then show them that side rather than just throw this out, then that's out. Then you're just confusing everybody.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Like, okay, do you rap or do you sing? Right. Do you feel like so far, have your looks been an asset for what you're trying to build, or do you feel like it's kind of a pain in the ass because people want to talk about, you know, the way you look rather than your music? Yeah, some people think that I get advantages. because of my looks, but honestly, I think the real beauty of me is inside, and my features is just a plus. Like, if you're a real bitch, you're a real nigga, you're going to fuck with me. And it's just like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:59 And a lot of people, I feel like have talent, but they don't got the look. So they don't really go nowhere with it. Because I feel like nowadays, how I feel personally, I feel like music is really your personality and you being yourself because it's just like, you, you're just like, You just do it. Like, I don't know, when the world could feel like they feel you through your music and you just you. Yeah, you just express yourself on the internet.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah, it's really your personality. You don't really have to be talented anymore. Because like the shit I see, the people who go up is the ones who really express their stuff on the internet. You can feel them. Right. Yeah, like a lot of people who are fans of you, they want to see you live your life day to day. They want to see the real you. It's not really necessarily all about the music.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Yeah, in fact. They'll support the music and shit if they really like you. But a lot of times, like, their version of liking you is you. Is seeing you on your Instagram story being funny and cool and shit from months and months and months before you drop a song. And then they go fuck with a song because they already feel like they have this connection to you. Facts. Yeah, I make them love you. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:27:05 But, okay, do you have the problem where you want to work with a male rapper? You tap in with them and it's automatically like, oh, yeah, yeah, you should like come to my hotel room or whatever. I hear this from girls. It can be tough to make yourself an artist in the eyes of your male contemporaries, right? I mean, yeah. Like, I had one experience
Starting point is 00:27:26 I was supposed to do a feature with this artist, and then we pull up, and then it just instantly started flirting, and it's just like, um, okay, and then like, yeah, it's just awkward and, yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:43 and then it's just like, fuck it, bro. It's just not. even do it. Yeah, because you're in your head like, uh, so is this not going to happen? When you come from the streets to the industry, it's just like, being a female is just like, it's even worse. You're in your head thinking like, oh, so am I going to, I'm going to like kind to be nice to this guy for a little while here just so he does the future? I got to kiss your ass for you to get in the booth. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. But that's what it is. Like, also I feel like I don't hit niggas up to do songs and shit because I feel like I'm at my level. Not saying like I'm
Starting point is 00:28:15 I feel like once I get to that, once I get, once I reach my peak, y'all niggas is going to be at my feet. So I'm not going to go looking for no niggas. And I don't expect nobody to be looking for me with three songs out. Well, two solid songs I just dropped it freestyle. You know what I'm saying? I don't expect for these nigs to be at my feet, but they will be for sure. I like the confidence. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:28:38 But do you have to be careful with how you put yourself out there these days? because, like, I noticed that you're all covered up right now. Like, do you go out of your way to make it so that people think less about your body or how you look and try to focus more on your music? Yeah, I'm actually covered up right now because my shirt is, like, see-through. And I was supposed to stop and get a whole bunch of shit. I'm supposed to stop and get some press on. Well, flex and the mink is always a good look, too, right?
Starting point is 00:29:04 I have facts. If you know, you know, if you know. I don't know, but I assume it seems expensive. You know, you know, I ain't trying to flex, or don't. You feel you? But yeah. I didn't want to be late. So I was like, let me just put the coat on the cover.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Right. You feel me? But so do you have to think about that? Like, if you had a big photo shoot in a magazine tomorrow. Oh, no. I love to flop my body. I feel like my body's art. I love my body.
Starting point is 00:29:28 And I feel like I spent so long hating my body that now that I just love my body now and just self-love. I love my scar. I embrace it. Like, some people would be like, I had a stylist. I actually stopped working with her because she was like, why don't you get some pieces that cover your stomach some more? You're always wearing like two pieces.
Starting point is 00:29:48 You don't want to cover your scar. Then from then I just started looking at her different because it's like, you're telling me to cover up me. So it was like, anyone who doesn't like my scar, you're not a friend of me. Because you would embrace my pain, you know? Right. Because you for-
Starting point is 00:30:04 It's expressing myself. You will forever see like, you know, dudes in music videos or in hood vlogs or whatever where they're pulling up their shirt and showing that they got the fucking giant ass, like stitches going up the center of their abdomen, like, because they got shot and they had to remove it or whatever. And it's like, we all look at that and we're like,
Starting point is 00:30:19 oh, fuck, like you automatically know, this dude bent through some shit. You kind of give them some default respect right there. Why don't we extend that privilege to women? I don't know. Why is it supposed to be like shameful if you're a woman and you got shot? If you're a dude and you got shot, like, dudes have whole rap careers.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Off of like, I got shot a few times. And it's like, now look at me. I'm so tough, you know? They're like, dumb bitch. You got you. And we give him the benefit of the doubt. Like, all right, man, shit. I ain't been shot.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I don't know what's like. All right. Facts. I guess because I don't know, man. It is what it is. I feel like I'm too tough. I feel me? I sustained that and I kept it moving.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Too tough. I'm like that. Definitely. Do you sign a little Wayne? Yes, I did. How did this happen? I got walked through. MacMaine and Cleo.
Starting point is 00:31:09 They made it happen. Really? So Cleo helped introduce you to the Young Money camp? Cleo hit up Mac. She was like, yo, this girl's dope. Check her out. So I wasn't thinking nothing of it. We, I woke up one day and we had an appointment to be at the studio. And everybody was there. And it was like, what's up? We wouldn't hear some shit. and then Wayne was there Mac was there a couple other
Starting point is 00:31:45 studio people was there Cleo was there Chrissy was there like my whole team was there with me my day to day and it was just like yo we don't it was just like let's make history
Starting point is 00:32:01 you know really facts Wow then from there I just started going him every day so little Wayne like what kind of shit was he saying to you about your music and stuff, like how involved was he in this conversation? Um, he was very involved, very, very respectful, very uplifting. And he was just like, he was like, I, I, I fuck with you. I fuck with your music. And I fuck with the shit you're
Starting point is 00:32:24 talking about, especially at your age for the way you're talking, for the stuff you're saying. You know, it was very, um, for me to hear that from him being, he's such a fucking legend. And like, I just look up to him so much. And me being assigned to him, and I look up to him so much, it just makes me want to make great music. And it just motivates me. Like, he motivates me a lot. The whole young money just motivates me a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:53 I feel very blessed. And, like, I feel like I'm a part of a legacy now, you know? And it just feels amazing. It's surreal. I can't even explain the feeling. It feels blessed. I feel like music saved my life. Now I have something to love and focus on.
Starting point is 00:33:08 and I just wake up every day just loving my life. You know, I have a passion now. Like, it's in my heart for sure. Wow. And they believed in me, so it just, you know, gave me a lot of confidence as well, too. Right. Yeah, I mean, like, Little Wayne pretty much seen and done
Starting point is 00:33:25 everything that you could possibly do in the music game. You know, he's been locked up at the height of his success. He's, you know, been on top of the game for, like, 10-plus years. He was, like, basically, like, a child star rapper at one point. He was rapping at since he was. eight years old. Right, all the way up to now where he's like a fucking legend in the game and nobody can take shit away from him. I mean, having somebody like that. Open so much doors. Just so legendary. Having somebody like down your corner is kind of like best case.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Word for him is just goat for real. Yeah. And for me to get to be part of that, it's like, wow, surreal. Have you guys actually worked on music together yet? Um, I don't know, supposed to be saying that. Well, I mean, it's not out yet, but you can acknowledge that you work together. We got some dope shit All of us, everybody Got some dope shit Wow
Starting point is 00:34:11 Yeah That's why Got some dope shit I'm just building I'm building You know Rome wasn't built in a day Nope
Starting point is 00:34:19 So I'm just ready to put in the work And just do whatever I gotta do And we're so used to like Rappers Blowing up young or whatever That it's like You know I mean you're super young
Starting point is 00:34:30 You got like plenty of time Before anybody's gonna be looking at you Like she's been out here for a while Why isn't she doing this yet You know No, I'm going to, I'm definitely going to work really hard, so I get my respect earned, you know? Right. I want people to see me instead of, like, see past me, just fall in love of my music.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Right, definitely. Yeah, so, like, do you have any specific, like, plans for how you're going to keep releasing music? Or, like, do you want to wait a good amount of time before you put any music with Wayne out? I think that makes sense I don't think there's no reason why I should just I don't want to just pop out with a song with him because it was like where's the growth
Starting point is 00:35:15 you know what I'm saying Yeah if you leapfrog past all the underground rappers that are kind of more on your level or whatever and go straight to the top and it's kind of like then it's almost weird when you go back and work with somebody who's got the same number of followers of you or whatever like I would definitely build up to it I only work with people I feel like it makes sense
Starting point is 00:35:33 bigger than you know like their plans Like it makes sense but um yeah I'm I'm honestly I want some single records I want to show my talent by myself I want to stand on my two feet and then you know then hit him in the head well yeah I got mad features with mad people madfired music I got some beautiful music that's in yeah a lot of dope people and a lot some a lot of rappers that really supported me before other people supported me like like Yadi Oh, Yaddy did too. That's interesting. How did he tap in? Got some fire shit. I met Yadi in New York. I met Yadi at a studio at Bavio Studio session. I met Yadi.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Nice. Have you guys worked on anything together? Yeah, we got some fire shit coming. About to drop soon. Fire shit. What made you want to work with Vezzo? Bezo. I just love the Detroit vibe.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I feel like the Detroit influence. going to my music a lot. So I was like, who's the best in Detroit? And I just felt like he's the best in Detroit. You know what I'm saying? And I really appreciate him. He really showed, he flew down. He came and showed love.
Starting point is 00:36:52 You know, he did the video. And I just feel like then he had concerts. He invited me to. He brought me out. And he's like, people don't really do that, you know? People be so focused on their self. Yeah. They don't really care.
Starting point is 00:37:06 You're an upcoming artist and you want to be on the concert. They don't care about you. Yeah, real one. And you know what I like about Bezo, too, is that he's, like, he's getting a super serious relationship with his girl. Like, he's super upfront about it, which is, like, it almost seems weird to even say it, but, like, a lot of rappers just kind of lie
Starting point is 00:37:22 and just act like they're single for their whole career. Facts. So it's kind of cool to see him, like, openly. He had a whole family. Yeah, he's really building something with his family and shit, and he speaks about it, which I think is, it's important that we normalize that. Like, as a rapper,
Starting point is 00:37:35 You don't need to just, like, act like you're fucking 16 and single forever, you know? 16 and single forever. Well, I mean, there's a lot of rappers, like, want to sort of perpetuate this, like, fantasy that they're, like, a little kid forever, you know? Hell, yeah. Definitely. I was curious about this. You dated Kodak for a while? What did you say?
Starting point is 00:37:57 Kodak, black. Oh, my God. Sniper gang? S-G. Yeah. What was that? When was that? How long did that last?
Starting point is 00:38:05 Um, when was that? Like six months ago. Okay. Yeah. And it didn't turn into anything, I'm guessing? I mean. Or are you guys still kind of talking? I mean, we don't talk, but, um, I wish him the best.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I want the best for him. And it's just, we weren't a person for each other. Persons. Okay. Yeah, I don't think, I don't think. He's for me, yeah. Why are you holding your tongue so much? Do the label tell you to?
Starting point is 00:38:44 What? Or you just don't want him mad at you? Honestly, the label doesn't tell me anything. I'd be thinking they're going to be like, give me a handbook of what to do and not to do. They don't, they really, like, let me do me be myself, for real. Right. But now, I just feel like I'm too real to, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:02 I feel like I'm exposing a nigger. I say some shit. Respect. You know what I mean? But it's like, even if we fall out. I'm always say, man, I fuck with him. So even we ain't cool, the whole world going to think we cool because I just got to keep it real, you know?
Starting point is 00:39:19 Because at one point, you feel me? But just because we can't sit at the same table with each other no more, that don't mean, you know, I want your plate to be snatched or some shit. And that's just another way of you making it clear that you ain't like these other hoes out there because bitch just love to do that shit now. It's like they want to have a whole career off of talking about like, oh, I used to hang out with this rapper. This is what he's like, yada, yada.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Actually, like, when I hang out with rappers, I don't want to take pictures with them because I want them to feel like it's genuine. I'm not around for the cloud. But it was, like, people think that, oh, she was taking pictures with him for cloud and this and this and that. But no, he wanted to do it.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Like, it was never something I wanted to do. Like, it was always something he wanted to do. Like, he wanted to do. like he wanted to show the world like you know I was always cool with you know I seen him on live feeling on your booty he looked like he was in on cloud nine like he was the in the happiest place he had ever been in like he was just he was loving it he definitely wanted to be there yeah I don't yeah man he is he outside for show but let me ask you this because like when we talk I always talk about X and Kodak is like those are kind of like the two young kings of South Florida.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Like, you know, and two very different categories, two very different upbringing, styles and music, etc. X is a fucking put Browd on a fucking map. Facts. But do you learn anything from being around that environment with Kodak too, since he's obviously one of the greatest rappers to come from that area? Um, I just, one thing about him, he just, Bees his self, I could say
Starting point is 00:41:07 A lot. To the extreme. To the extreme. He don't give a fuck. No. Like, you want to know the definition of Don't give a fuck is him. Yeah. But I learned a lot of stuff too,
Starting point is 00:41:21 but yeah, but Yeah, good for him though. Good for him. Good for him. Good for him. For sure. Okay. Well, you know, I'm definitely impressed. It's actually kind of like hard to even believe
Starting point is 00:41:32 that you're 20 because you just seem like you have a very good head on your shoulders. Like you've been through a lot. Like you're ready for taking on this challenge. Yeah. I'm just ready. Let's get over it.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Definitely. So do you have a game plan? Like when you're going to be dropping new music? Do you have like a project in mind that's going to be coming out at some point? We're focused on dropping singles. I'm trying to be consistent as possible. I think I'm going to be dropping like a single every two weeks, actually. And then just come out with an album.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Hell yeah. With all major features. all this shit and just all my fire music that I'm holding back, just drop it on there and just go crazy and just fuck this shit up. Definitely. That's exciting. Okay, anybody you want to thank? Anything you want to let the people know to look out for? Hell yeah. Look out for my next single, what I want, my little racks, you feel me? Shout out to Tunchy, shout out to Cleo, shout out to MacMane, shout out the young fucking money. You know what the fuck. going on. Shout out to Bradford
Starting point is 00:42:37 County, man. You already know. Shout out to Adam for bringing me out. I really appreciate it. You're a real one for that one. I'm a big believer. I think you got... Oh yeah. Shout out to Solomon. Shout out of Solomon. He doesn't get the property deserves for sure. He's dealing with my headache right now. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:42:54 Oh, yeah. I've been grabbing him crazy all morning. You're a nightmare for a manager? Yeah. Really? It's a lot. Really? You're like a real diva? Like, you ain't even been on for that long and you're like, like already like oh no i'm super like down the earth and real humble like i'll never turn to a diva i know that for fat i'm always stay like this well that's good yeah facts that's a good thing to hear because most of these girls turn into divas at some point hell no my nigger later i'm gonna come
Starting point is 00:43:19 back pull a point smoke a joint all right you smoke weed but nothing else or oh oh oh oh no she's like no i'd be getting fucked up adam get Fucked up, fuck them. Good show. All right, well, Melorax. Appreciate you coming through. Thank you, man. Appreciate you.
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