No Jumper - The Mo3 Interview: Yella Beezy beef, Explains Arrest Last Month, being Drug Free and more

Episode Date: August 26, 2019

Mo3 is one of the hottest up & coming rappers out of Dallas but his rise to hood fame hasn't been without some speed bumps. In this interview we discussed his various beefs and arrests plus his though...ts on where his career needs to go to fulfill his destiny 0:20 - Getting arrested at the Ford Center 2:22 - Beef with Yella Beezy 5:06 - Getting treated differently 7:24 - MO3 on beef 8:30 - Being locked up 11:30 - Resolving rapper beefs with a boxing match 13:21 - Self incrimination 16:11 - Gun Violence in America 17:54 - Gun culture in Dallas 20:02 - Current gang culture 22:16 - MO3's place in the rap game 24:39 - Being drug free 28:08 - Childhood 31:58 - Glad he went to jail 34:05 - Strippers 37:36 - Lifestyle at home 40:10 - Attention from the police 43:55 - MO3's music style 46:41 - Support and help with his rap career 50:15 - Getting arrested for a picture 52:55 - Friendship with Roy Lee FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://spoti.fi/2vi9lsD CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper and iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 and follow us on Social Media: http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm follow Adam22 as well: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and follow adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:09 No, Jumber, coolest podcast on the world. And today, I'm here with the heart of Dallas, Mo 3. Yeah, what's up? How you feeling? I'm Gucci, man. What's going there, man? Feeling good, man. Yeah, man, that way.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Yeah, I was excited to see you perform in Dallas a couple of weekends ago. Didn't happen. What was... You're talking about the House of Blue? No, it was at some sort of Cowboys training ground. Oh, Ford's son of Forest. Yeah. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:00:38 I ain't get to make it, man. I made it, but I ain't get to make it to the state. I heard. So what exactly happened here? You weren't supposed to be on the show at first, originally, but then you got added late, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The promoters added me to the show.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Okay. It was told me they already wanted to put me on the show, but they didn't know if they could put me on the show, but they ended up coming and put me on the show anyway. Right. It was going down. So you showed up thinking that it was all going to be good. Oh, yeah, I thought off in Iraq yet,
Starting point is 00:01:06 I get on stage and do my thing like I normally do. And instead, what happened? I went to jail. You seen it, man. Look, we in the jail like her. I know. We're all inside there. I'm sitting in the backstage area and they start saying like, oh, man, Mo 3 about to get arrested.
Starting point is 00:01:23 He got in front. You know, you're not the third person that said that. It's like I don't talk to like seven different people and told me that he was on the inside. Like, we knew you was going to jail for you knew you was going to jail. Because you were on live. I was like, what the hell? Yeah, I was. But we had bad service.
Starting point is 00:01:38 So we were like, everybody's trying to get on the live because we're hearing about it, but we couldn't watch it. Yeah, I start going live when I seen the, I start going live when I seen the police start, you know, surrounding me. I'm like, what's going on? You know, so you gotta go live. Yeah, getting locked up though, that must have sucked.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yeah, I'm tired of going to jail. I've been going to jail too long, all my life. I thought this shit was over with, you, you know what I'm saying. Has it been a while? Yeah, it's been a while. It's been a while at last time, me been locked up, like, 2017, that was the last time they been locked up. But like, other than that, I ain't never been locked up.
Starting point is 00:02:09 This history, I ain't never been locked up at no show. Right. Like, I ain't never been locked up doing something that you posed with doing. You know, you get locked up and doing shit you ain't supposed to be doing. Unless you're not that surprised. You know what I'm saying? So that shit right there, that would cry. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Okay, so you thought that your beef with Yellow Beazee was not so extreme that you couldn't perform the show or did you think that there was definitely going to be some sort of issue if you guys saw it, no, no. No, no. I ain't even no smoke. I ain't know it was no smoke. I ain't know there was no smoke to the police told me, like, he never told me it was no beef. Like, you get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:02:43 So I ain't know nothing about no beef when I got there. Like, so shit, you know. I knew about that, I knew about that once I got there. Like, oh, the rapper doesn't want to be by you. You know, you knew that there were existing issues because you guys have had issues over the years. No, man. No, man. What?
Starting point is 00:03:03 No, man. I don't know what, listen, man. Listen, man, you gotta understand. You don't probably interview the lot of rappers. And you probably can just look them up and down and look at their character and just, you know, you get what I'm saying? You know, you get a feel of people,
Starting point is 00:03:18 feel of people, you know, it's like a vibe. I'm not calling you a liar. I'm not saying you're not a gangster. I'm just saying that you have a mystery and having issues with them. No, no, no, no, no. I ain't appear to be no gangster. None of that.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I'm just saying, look, it's like when you get a feel of people, when you get a feel of people, you can, you know, just read. They hold character. They hold demeanor, their body language, and let you know. Bro ain't really cut like this. So, you know, I ain't really knew it was no beef or no static till I got there.
Starting point is 00:03:42 So when I got there, you know, I'm getting told that, you know, hey, why I'm in the police call. Like, hey, you know, you know, it's a rapper in there and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I was, what you're talking about? How long you went from telling me from a warrant to, nah, this really was going on? Is you supposed to be here? Am I supposed to be here? He looked up in shit.
Starting point is 00:04:01 My name, right there, fly. Right there? Like, yeah, so, you know, y'all are missing me without all this, uh, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, I don't, I don't know, man, that shit goofy, niggas, you know, niggas, you know, niggas, you know, niggas, you know, I don't know, man. I came to do a show, I came to rap. Right. What could I do at Friscoe in, at the Forest Center?
Starting point is 00:04:26 You was in there, you seen, it was, it was a kid. No, it probably would have been about the worst place to attempt to commit any sort of crime. So why would I even come in there? You was in there. Well, I didn't even get to get in there. to see, but I'm just imagining I already, like, why would I come to Frisco and play with these people like that, play with these allow enforcement like that? I wouldn't even do nothing.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I came in a route. But, you know, people fear for their safety, you know, people said it wasn't a good idea. People said, you know, they're kind of nervous about me coming. And so, you know, then boom, boom, boom. You know what could have happened was they could have said, hey, can you just leave? I got some sense. I ain't crazy. I've got the coin lift. Do you have this problem a lot where people assume that you're so gangster that maybe
Starting point is 00:05:11 you shouldn't even be around? Yeah, I got this. I got this problem. I got a song on my new project communist society where I explained it. It's like, nobody can, nobody could know you and they'll put a jacket on you, right? And so it's like, it's like if you, have you ever met Whitney Houston? No, I have not. Okay, I've never met him either.
Starting point is 00:05:30 So I can't really say she'll crack it. RIP. You know what I'm saying? RIP Whitney. You know what I? I knew she was a great single. Loved her as a kid. And I acted, me too.
Starting point is 00:05:39 That's what my mama had us watching. You get them. The bodyguard. So when they start, that's my mom. I liked that. That was a good movie. So when they start saying, when they start saying Whitney is a crackhead. I don't know the crack head, Whitney.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Right. So I can't go off that. You get what I'm saying? All I know is hit the high notes, sing, and woo, woo, woo, woo, make you feel it through your body, Whitney. I don't know nothing about that other shit. So it's the same thing with me when they be putting his jacket on my back. Man, he can't go over it because he.
Starting point is 00:06:05 He did. He's that. He's going to do something. Have you ever seen him do that? No, but I don't hear it. You can't do this. I get that a lot. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:13 Now, I have cut up in the past. I have done some crazy shit in the past. You know what I come from that background where, you know, it's like this. So, you know, of course, I'm going to do something at some point of time. But all the time, like, no, I'm not on that. So, you know, it's time and place for everything. So, you know, I came to the motherfucker's center to do what I'm supposed to do. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:35 on the route. But people do feel like, night, no. No, you never know. Like, no. It feels kind of fucked up to give you the mixed message. Like, if they don't want you there, just don't book you to the show. Just don't book you, bro.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Just don't believe that, right? We shouldn't even, I went through three meetings to get on their show. That's crazy. And where the meetings all centered around, like, you're not gonna shoot it up, are you? Yeah, that's exactly. That's exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:56 That's exactly. That's crazy. That's exactly. I went through three meetings, but that's not the first time. I don't, I don't have to go through these meetings. A lot of times, I just don't, explain myself like, or how did he get on this show?
Starting point is 00:07:08 Just, shit, I just look at it like, here, I'm here. You know what I'm saying? Like from the city, from the car shows to everything. I got to go through them, them little steps first before they say, okay, he can get on stage. Right. Like, I, don't nobody else got to do that. Don't nobody else got to do that. Is your opinion of it that it's not a real beef with you because of the fact that if it was a real beef,
Starting point is 00:07:31 then it would actually be an active beef that things would actually be going down. You guys are in the same city. That's what I'm saying. Like, if it were beat, I don't, I don't know how niggas beat these days, you get what I'm saying? I don't know how it goes. I don't really get into all that.
Starting point is 00:07:47 But, like, I know back in the day, if it's smoke, going to smoke it out. You know what I'm saying? And we ain't been to smoke it out in no force or something in no frisco. I ain't from, I ain't from doing that. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I ain't no damn fool. Come on, I'm a fool. I'm a fool. Ain't no down fool. But you could never see yourself doing that if there was somebody that you really had issues with, and you had a show, you couldn't see yourself being like, I don't want that person there.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Nah, who? Are you saying me going to say? I don't want him there? I'm just saying if it was a sort of vice versus situation where if you were booked to play a show and then they booked somebody else later on, and you couldn't imagine yourself ever saying a security, like I just don't want him here because I know that it's going to turn into issues. No, look, let me tell you something, because I don't want to sound,
Starting point is 00:08:25 trying like I'm sounding hard and no shit like that. Let me tell you a story that kind of go around it. Okay. When I was locked up as a, as a, a juvenile, not my adult cases. Right. I was in a boy's home placement kind of Medlock. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:40 In my city, you from Dallas, niggas know about Madlock. I went to all that shit. Madlock, T-Y-C. All this shit. But when I was in Matlock, we go by shirts, color shirts. Depending on whatever color shirt you get,
Starting point is 00:08:52 you get to go home. Okay. The Burgundy shirt is the last shirt, and you go home. Your yellow shirt, when you first come in, that's when you first come in, you knew. You get what I'm saying? You just got here, so you got to do your time.
Starting point is 00:09:04 But when you win a burglary shirt, that means you got two weeks left. You're going to go home. Long story short, I got into it. I had a burglary shirt and got into it and a nigga who had a yellow shirt. You're like, I'm your OG, man. You get what I'm saying? But on some shit like, on some shit like he owed me, I ain't going to say commissary because we don't get commissary as a juvenile.
Starting point is 00:09:28 But we do get, you know what I'm saying? We get little special privileges on snacks and shit. We gamble for some breakfast trays. Kinectfo. Everybody know I'm a beast and Kinect 4. You play Kinect 4? No, I don't, but I'd really like to get involved. Yeah, yeah, I play for money.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Oh, beat your ass. I play Tetris. I'm trying to get involved. Oh, okay, yeah, Kinectaw. I move blocks, yeah. Good guy, yeah. Look, so I beat his ass. I beat his ass on Kinect 4, but he's a yellow shirt.
Starting point is 00:09:55 So Yolashirt ain't got nothing to lose. You just got nothing to lose. When you're a yellow shirt, you guarantee 10 fights. before they say, okay, it's nothing. You get what I'm saying? Really? So when you, when you're my shirt, you can't get no fight because you can go home.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Right. So boom, it was on some shit like I beat him out the tray. And when it came to child that morning, he was on some shit like, I'm going to eat my shit. So I'm like, damn, okay, well, they're going to put us in, where we got a fold, clothes and shit. They're going to put us in there to go. So, damn, it's either, I got to say so to do I want this,
Starting point is 00:10:31 Do I want this inmate to fall inmate to fall in with me? Or do I want to pick another yellow shirt? Right. But right now, he's the first yellow shirt option that they gave me. Right. Not knowing it's smoke because he didn't get me my motherfucking breakfast tray. So on some shit like I did. I said, no, I don't want to be, I don't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Don't bring, I can pick another one. Because I'm going to smoke it out with him. Then I ain't going to be able to go home. You know what I'm saying? So I ain't going to say, just like the situation you just asked me if it's a show, if it's a show and there's another artist. It depends on what type of smoke it is. If I got the most shit to lose,
Starting point is 00:11:06 if I got the most shit to lose on some shit like where it's life-debt situation, then I'm not going to say, I'll never tell them don't come. I'd never tell a security order of the police, hey, bro, can you not let him come? Come on, man. As a man, like now,
Starting point is 00:11:23 but I'm just going to make sure I do what I've got to do so I can get in, stick and move, do my shit, pop my shit, look good, and you know what I'm saying? And escape. Because not even in your specific situation here, but let's just talk about overall in beefs, the way that it goes down is that people will, they'll be basically like things done from one side to another to the point where it becomes really difficult for there to be any kind of reconciliation. And then that just sort of keeps carrying over and over and over and over to the point where nobody's looking to make any sort of truce. The question is, where do you feel on that spectrum in terms of the current tension that, like, are you in a position?
Starting point is 00:12:00 where you would be able to sit down and sort shit out. You suggested a boxing match in your state cheese interview. Yeah, look, look. Look, let me, I just want to punch them down if it's some beef. I still don't know nothing about this beef. I'm not no boxer, but I punch a nigga head down. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, it's like just to shut everybody up,
Starting point is 00:12:20 punch them down, we punch it out for some money, and we get them under the charity, you know what I'm saying? Give them to the kids. You know, the kids are going to love to see their hometown rebels scratch. Smoke it out. They're going to smoke it out in the gloves. Right. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:34 And once they do that, after I beat their ass, turn around and get them kids that money. You get what I'm saying? So, you know, it's like a win-win situation. I win and the kids win. You get them saying, or the community or whoever, whoever get the money. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:50 Yeah. I'm trying to kill all whatever it is, whatever the beef or the smoke it is. I still don't know it back because a niggis still ain't told me nothing. You know what I'm saying? And niggas be talking, niggas be on the, you got backup dancers and shit. They be popping their shit and all that. But I don't really hear, I don't really hear a nigga saying, yeah, a nigga, smoke, what you want to do.
Starting point is 00:13:11 So I don't even get into all that. I don't take a nigger's serious because, you know, penitial rules and effect. And we use in the peeing and all that, throwing rocks and hiding your hands and shit, going to get your head. Right. Let me answer to this. A lot of people, a lot of people who leave comments on some of your videos, and it's definitely got to be part of the appeal of your music is that you get really in depth
Starting point is 00:13:33 with telling stories about what's going on and stuff. And a lot of times people might even leave comments that are like, why are you incriminating yourself? How do you feel about that? Is that something that's going through your head in the studio? No, I don't incriminate myself because I got to write the freedom of speech first of all. In America, I got the right to freedom of speech.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And as a rapper, you know, we have a thick imagination. You get what I'm saying? we are allowed to lie and fabricate make up shit. You get what I'm saying? I'm friendly. Friendly at rapper like I told him on 219.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I'm a friendlaid as rapper. Don't mind me. You get what I'm saying? I don't be, man. I'm just doing what the next rapper doing. That's what the thing I be doing, man. You know? Really, I'm just like a news reporter.
Starting point is 00:14:14 You get what I'm saying? Like, we're going on in the streets. I just be hearing bad it and I'll rap up at it. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, I ain't incriminate myself. Like, I'm making good music.
Starting point is 00:14:25 You never had a cop during communications with a cop. You never had a cop point out your lyrics and say, you said this. You never had that particular situation. Because we keep hearing about that happening more and more. No, but they don't say that, look in your video. Look at this. You got guns on the video.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Look what you do. I don't do that. Oh, no, no. So not you. But you did back in the day? I did. When I first came out, yeah, I'm big four five on my hill. Big chop in the video, my furry video.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I don't do that. It's like a real right of passage. Like, rappers always do it when they're young, and then they always have to stop at some point. Yeah, like, you're like, and then some of them don't even stop. Some of them just still going. Like, I be telling other rappers, like, man, you ain't got to, you know, you ain't got to show that bitch, you know what I'm saying? If you really gonna blow that bitch, you ain't got to show that bitch.
Starting point is 00:15:07 So like, nah, bro, I don't do that no more. Like, I think my last video with the stick was with the word around time and I'm on it. Okay. I'm my last video. If I got a stick in the video, it's like movie scripted, it's like, it's written like this. I feel like with certain rapper. yourself probably included, the fan base is just going to take it for granted
Starting point is 00:15:30 that you're capable of protecting yourself. It's the young rappers who are the ones who are really trying to prove, like, look at me, I actually got a stick. Man, it's easy to get a gun, man. I remember back in the day, man, it was like, it was in a gang, like 20 of y'all with one gun.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Now, shit, it's five niggas with 60 guns. Like, you get what I'm saying? They got enough to pass, that. Right. So I don't know where they get any guns from. I don't know where they lay on there get any gun from. So, you know. Well, you guys are down there.
Starting point is 00:16:01 You're like right next to Mexico. That's probably a little bit of it. The trains. The trains. All the distribution coming through there and shit. Some trains get stopped. Right. It's over it.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Does that worry you when you look at the climate of everybody having guns? There's a big conversation going on in this country right now because of all the mass shootings and stuff. And it always is kind of that question of if assault rifles in particular should be outlawed. Yeah, like on some shit, like, I feel like, I feel like you do need a gun, though. You know what I'm saying? Like America, the shit that's going on, me, you see these fake-ass security guards that want to be like, act like they police, gunning niggas down.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Like, come on, my name. You need your. But the way the system is set up is so fucked up because if you are feeling you can't own a firearm and if you are any type of gang affiliated and this gun, you know, you ain't bout no gun. You don't bout it out the street. You know, they still go. They're going to, you can catch a body.
Starting point is 00:17:03 You still going to get hit. You can't have one on. I can't have no gun. Because you've done time recently, right? Yeah, I own. Yeah. All my cases is dealt with with a fire on them, so I can't have no gun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Judge told me, he's planning clear, you know what I'm staring straight. I did a video with a rapper named a stupid young where we went to Long Beach, And there just happened to be this fucking machine gun in a garage that a bunch of his homies were hanging out in. And he picked it up and pointed it out of the camera, just messing around. Like, right, right, right. I guess it was broken. So it was any chance of it going off or anything. And then he caught a case over that two-second clip in the video with him holding the gun because him is a felon.
Starting point is 00:17:40 He's not allowed to even hold it. Yeah. In fact. So, shit, I don't fuck them guns. I don't play with guns, man. Definitely. Oh, play with good. But do you look at that climate in Dallas where it's kind of assumed that a lot of, a very large
Starting point is 00:18:02 percentage of people have a gun on them? And do you think that that kind of makes it safer where people aren't likely to just suck a punch a motherfucker on the street or some shit because they think that it might turn into a real deal confrontation so easily? It's like, that's what I'm saying. It's good and bad. It's like, it's good. It's good to have a gun.
Starting point is 00:18:20 to protect yourself and to be on your peas and cues and to, you know, niggas got kids. He's want to go home tomorrow. You know, niggas waiting on their mama birthday next week. So, you know, they want to be able to make it to see that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:18:35 I got to take their little girl to school and take their son to football practice or, you know what I'm saying? Or even get up and jack their dick out or whatever they want to do. Sometimes you got to do that. All right, yeah. So long as you got that burner,
Starting point is 00:18:46 you know, you can prevent, but the judge don't understand that. A judge won't understand if, I got, I got a, I got partners right now who doing time for the gun and not for the body. But it's like...
Starting point is 00:19:00 So the self-defense case, but they weren't allowed to have the gun on. Yeah, but you're not allowed to have a gun. So it's like, Your Honor, either I was going to catch this body or I wouldn't even going to be here talking to you. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, but it's like the system
Starting point is 00:19:13 don't give a fuck about that. They don't care. Like, basically they tell you, you should have did well back in the day and you won't have to worry about. not being able to have a gun. You know what I'm saying? So it's like they don't understand that.
Starting point is 00:19:25 So it's like it's a good and bad. It's good to have you strap, man. Don't nobody wrong. Ain't nobody trying to die. Like hell now. Nigger got shit to do. You know what I'm saying? Like, nigga got shit to see.
Starting point is 00:19:36 But at the same time, it's like, niggas with guns, crash dummies with guns. It's like shooting wrong, niggas, shooting kids and robbing bullshit that convenience stores for $450. You know what I'm saying? That's somebody.
Starting point is 00:19:51 somebody, mama, you know what I'm saying? All that dumb-ass shit. Doing drive-bys at parks and shit, killing 10-year-olds and eight-year-olds and not even hitting you in them. All that dumb-ass shit. That's why I said. So it's like, it's good and bad. Do you look at the game and think that the game is fucked up right now because there's
Starting point is 00:20:06 so much bullshit, like all the stuff that you just described that happens, whereas maybe when you were younger, shit was a little bit more respectable? Yeah, everything. Social media. I know my OGs, man. That shit over it. O.Gs won't be the young niggas. It's a young-nigger world right now.
Starting point is 00:20:20 We run this shit. you got, and the majority of OGs want to be the young nigger because why? OG, it's like they don't have no juice no more in this generation. It's like nobody look up to me no more like they did back in the day. They're looking up to this young nigga,
Starting point is 00:20:32 so I need to do what this young nigga doing. Once an OG starts carrying about his followers, shit starts getting weird. We all know what it looks like. When OG, when OG care about his motherfucking followers and shit, he needs some followers. I know some OGs in the city,
Starting point is 00:20:51 right now. That they might need a... Man, they need some follow. They're trying to tell a mixtape. They're trying to do our type of shit. Yeah. So it's like they're trying to get on their young nigga wave. And, you know, it's like, but they're not knowing how they looking.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Like, OG, you're not looking. O.G. is right now. You're looking B.G.'s. You're looking baby gangsters. It's like that, uh, the skit on the future 56 nights mixtape where the guys, uh, buying the weed or some shit. And he, he, he's like, I'm going to take this pick. You're going to post it on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah. It's like that. Like, you definitely know some dudes who are kind of giving up. off that energy. Facts, no, facts. I see it all the time. So it's like it's a young nigga world right now. And it's like, man, the generation, how it is, how it's set up. It's like, oh, geez, I ain't got no say so no more. And shout out to the OGs who still OG, who still standing on what they believe in, who's still standing on, you know, the rice and wrongs of this shit, like, who still staying true to the game and, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:42 giving a nigga like me some advice and shit. I still, I still listen to the OGs, you know, that I got in my circle like, Lebrough, woo, woo, woo, woo, whoa, woo, whoa, how you right, you know what I'm saying? But at the thing, but that the end of the day, at the end of the day, they outnumber. It's not no more really, no, oh, geez. Like I say, niggas going to buy clothes like us, looking like us, but they, but they 408. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:04 They're standing in the DJ booth and standing in the, they all trying to drop a mixtape. You got niggas talking about make them a twilter and all type of shit. Right about perks and shit. Yeah, I all that type of shit, like, come on, school. Do you, but what, do you consider yourself like a new school, like you're one of the new dudes out because it feels like you've been around for a while. Yeah, I feel, I feel like rejuverated. I'm new again, right?
Starting point is 00:22:27 It's the new me, you understand? Because it's like your first time really coming out of the past couple years. Really pop out. Like, I did out of my groundwork, you know what, you know what I did out of there. I grind and got it out the mud. And like, now that everybody, like, you getting to know me and the Vlads and everybody is, like, around the world where I've been going here and there. So it's like, yeah, this the, this the me and the game.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Like, I'm getting in the game, you know what I'm saying? Right. When did you actually make a real decision to start taking the rap shit seriously? She, when I was in the motherfucking cell, a matter of fact, visitation. Visitation, man, that's crazy. I asked me this question. I've been telling the same story five years. Like, every interview I tell this same story.
Starting point is 00:23:09 It's like, shit, my daddy kind of visited me. For I caught Chang, TDC. There's on some shit like, when you get out, instead of, Doing what you doing. Rap about it. Right, Rap about it, what you mean? Your dad.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Yeah, he was like, geez, you know, you can rap. I was like, yeah, what that mean? You know. Put your life in the music. Rap about it,
Starting point is 00:23:34 you ain't got to do it anymore. Just rap about it. I'm like, man, that shit don't work. What that's going to get me rapping about it? He was like, it's better to rap about it
Starting point is 00:23:42 than do it because you ain't hurt nobody. Had you never really even thought about the prospect of you actually being a real deal about it? I ain't think I was gonna be here, really. I swear to God, we're here, man.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I swear. Like, I ain't wake up and say, man, I'm gonna be a, I used to wanna be the hot boys when I was little, you know what I'm saying? Like cash money, but I ain't, you know, that's when I was little. You get what I'm saying? But like, when a nigga grew up, by the time, nigga hit 14 on up, the nigger was out here in the streets, so it was like, all that shit was fantasy.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Right. That shit wasn't real. Like, we out here, we're struggling. You know what I'm out here on far as line of deal, you know what I'm working too. My mom, I'm working two jobs. The lights is out every now and then, you know what I'm doing. You know what we're doing what we got to do to survive. You know what I'm running the streets every night.
Starting point is 00:24:29 So it's like that rap shit is not even. That's not like, that was like a hobby. Like it was like I don't smoke weed. So that was like getting hot of me. Like I'm just going to make a song. You got money now. You can start smoking weed. Yeah, but I don't.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I still ain't smoke weed. You still don't like it? No, yeah, that ain't me. That ain't my thing. That's cool. I found that. drink, weed, pears, nothing that shit. I'm drug free all the way.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Tobacco, cigarette, black and mouth, none of that. Even alcohol. I don't want none of that. I don't want none of that. That ain't for me. It ain't for me. That ain't my body don't even. Like, hell now. I can't even be in a room, niggas in there hot boxing and shit.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I lose my whole motherfucking voice. I mean, you know just like I know that the dudes who start drinking lean, they might do it for a couple years. They might do it for 10 years, but it always ends, and it never really ends on a good note. Yeah, I got a pounder right now. He on dialysis. His kidneys and levels fucked up.
Starting point is 00:25:22 He got to go get his blood drawn every morning. So, you know, he was telling me, you know, the lane fucked me up. Brink fucked me up. And I got to get my blood drawn every morning. Every new generation tries to just forget about all the people. Man, he niggas just be dick, be dick riding and following the nix. That's why I told you, social media shit, is crazy. Niggas who wouldn't even pick up a cup.
Starting point is 00:25:48 even knew what some drink was. Right. Fucking shit, the rap was doing this shit. I feel like I put a song in sound class, I feel like I got to give me a cup. Don't give me a double cup. Nigger got four cups doing it wrong and shit, looking goofy.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Rollin' Blum. Yeah, man. Backwood, get them backwards. Nah, it was Swiss was back in the day. What you're going to do? You get what I'm saying? So it's like, oh, you're just following the trend. So a lot of these niggas just be,
Starting point is 00:26:14 I don't even be believing in these niggas. They high. They're gone. and be sitting up at the interview, sleeping shit, and thinking that shit cool, looking goofing the hole. Yeah, because people think that they look cool, getting fucked up and doing pills and shit. And then if they ever come in,
Starting point is 00:26:29 a lot of rappers have, like, one interview that they went in and did while they were fucked up, and then they looked so stupid that they just, it became a meme or something, and they just have to sort of exist. But hey, like, you know what I'm saying? Cloud is the biggest drug, so, you know, if the niggas wanna do that, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:43 let them pop their shit, you know what I mean? All right. I don't knock a nigga getting high and get fucked up. If you was already doing it, that's you. Don't start scrolling down a couple of pictures of Instagram and be like, man, I need give me a cup. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I need get me a perciseet. Fuck that. That's really what does it too. That's what they be doing. Yeah. That's hilarious. Goofy. But so once you actually got out and started rapping,
Starting point is 00:27:09 I mean, your stuff sounds very musical, very developed, very much like somebody who's put in a lot of work, a lot of time, a lot of skills, Did you start grinding hard right away? Do you feel like you have a lot natural talent? No, I'm not, like, it's heavy-scent. Like, my mama had me in the church. Like, shit, my daddy had been rapping.
Starting point is 00:27:29 My mama sang and my dad was rapping, so I sang getting rap, so it's always been, it's always been natural, like, from the go, like, way before you got in the studio. I'm talking about late nights. Mama got her company coming to the house. She wanna show out. Come, boy, come here and sing that one song
Starting point is 00:27:45 for, saying for my friends. Mama, come on, man. Then he's my daddy, late night hang on him in the parliaments. He got his partners around. Why my son made a little rap? Go don't speak this shit. Don't rule. So it's like.
Starting point is 00:27:57 You were very encouraged. Yeah, it's like I ain't never been shy. You know what I'm gonna do it. Oh no, I ain't shy. That's dope. Like class act, I'm not a class clown, class act. What kind of kid were you though in school and shit? As far as well.
Starting point is 00:28:14 In terms of just who you hung out with, like who you guys. you got along with what your personality was in school, were you getting in trouble all the time? Yeah, I'm, I ain't gonna talk about the bad. I'm gonna talk about the good first. Right. As far as good shit, in school, I was everybody favorite. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:30 I was popular. You know what I had a name before rap. Like, you knew Mo3, like you already knew who it was, like before rap, you get what I'm saying? So like in school as far as on the good side, it was popular, had all the ho, was chasing the niggas, like, like, I'm the new you want to hang with. Like, my little circle of game members, nigger running with, it's like I was, I was
Starting point is 00:28:55 in the front and I was the little as one, like, the youngest one, so like on some good shit, like, yeah, even the teachers. Ah, he bad, but shit. Like, you want him in your class. You're going to bring excitement to the class. This whole class boring. I feel like those are usually the people who become, like, interesting rappers or the people who just naturally sort of have that interesting personality that people will fuck with him.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I always been outspoken. Like, I ain't scared to stand up. I ain't scared to say you what you don't want to say. I'm gonna say it. What you're thinking about? I'm gonna say it. So it's like, it's good and bad. Because it's good because, like, people would be happy.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Like, man, I wanted to say that, but I ain't wanted to promote him. He said it, so I'm happy he did it. So it's like, then it'd be like on some bad shit, like, right, why the fuck he say that? Right. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it's like, I'm a Gemini too. So.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I'm sure that there's plenty of people who listen to your music and they're like, Oh man, why he got to be saying all this shit? Why he got to be airing out all this shit? Yeah, no, it is. But the majority that listen to my music tell me all the time, bro. You get me through my day, bro. Like, you couldn't have said in my belt. Like, what you just said, I'm going through right now.
Starting point is 00:30:00 You get what I'm saying? Like, I really appreciate you. I appreciate your lyrics. I don't even know you. I appreciate your lyrics. Like, you get me through my day. So it's like, like, as a kid growing up, like, even in jail, bro, I've been incarcerated out of my life, bro.
Starting point is 00:30:15 I've been in every correctional facility Dallas, Texas has ever built CCD, Sequoia, service, a whole U Village, Madlock, TYC, motherfucking, DRC, got down
Starting point is 00:30:30 2,600 long-star Henry Wade detention center. Like, I did all this shit, but through that whole, through that whole getting in trouble process, I still was the nigga to be around, like, from the guards, like, to the inmates. Like when I leave jail, it's a sad thing.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Like, when they tell me pack up it's time to go, my siblings never get to looking like, damn, for me. I bet you make our day go by. You know what I went to prison in 17 years old, four aggravated robbers with a deadly weapon. Really? My first time, my first adult charge ever,
Starting point is 00:31:03 they sent me to the pen. So it was like, I went to a bury unit first in Huntsville, Texas. Yeah. Went to the burial unit as a transfer unit. I stayed there like three weeks. I had two cellies. I had a cellar from Colleen
Starting point is 00:31:16 and I had a cellar from Houston you know what I'm saying? And it was like, it was like, do them three weeks. Not just my cellies, but the, everybody on my cell block.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Like, they gravitated to a nigga in them three weeks before a nigga went to the Robinson unit and I went to Childs, Texas at the Roach unit. I discharged their Wiles unit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:37 But like, when I got to these units, it's like from the day one, day two, and I don't know friendly shit, It's like a nigga fuck with a nigga gangster Like, nigga fuck with your gangster Like, nigga fuck with your gangster
Starting point is 00:31:45 Like, nigga fuck with three Yeah Like, look at them like I ain't, I ain't gonna overdo it I'm gonna be me, I'm gonna pop my shit I'm gonna say what I'm gonna say I'm gonna say what I mean and then shit we can laugh later
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yeah You get what I'm saying Like so If you really think of it It really would have been a shame If you ended up sort of wasting away in jail Without being able to do something
Starting point is 00:32:06 With that I'm glad I went to jail out You know what I'm saying I'm glad It taught you something And I'm glad I went. If I'd never win, I wouldn't. I'm glad I went.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Like, for real. At first, I was mad. I was calling home every day. Damn, my own. Shit. And she's going by slow. You get what I'm saying? Right.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I'm really coming on. But like, once a nigga look up now, and I look at everywhere I'm being and out of people, I don't got to touch and reach. It's just like, I'm glad I went through all right. I'm glad I struggled. I'm glad I struggled. I slept in my car.
Starting point is 00:32:42 You know what I'm saying? I'm glad I'm glad that nobody. I'm glad that nobody helped me when I need to help. I'm glad I couldn't. I'm glad I wouldn't invite it to the shit because I couldn't dress or or I didn't have enough money. I'm glad. Why?
Starting point is 00:32:53 Because I talk about it now. You still feel close to those memories of like, because that's the kind of stuff that a lot of people wouldn't even admit to is like those feelings of like, oh, I don't even have the clothes to be going out and looking right. Man, I go, bro. I used to argue with my manager, bro. DGs, the club car, DGs in Dallas. I tell them all the time.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I don't even go to that bitch, but that's my favorite. You get what I'm saying? Right. Like that's crazy. That's my favorite strip club, but I don't even go there. And why is my favorite strip club? Not because I don't care about seeing no ass. I can see ass outside the strip club.
Starting point is 00:33:23 You get what I'm saying? So it's not about it. When I first went to DG's, the strippers in there, in my head like, okay, damn, I don't got no money. I don't need to be coming here. I ain't got no clothes. I've been wearing these same clothes five, six days. five, six days.
Starting point is 00:33:41 What I'm going to go to the strip club for? I see niggas in there bowling, throwing money and shit. Jury around and shit. I can't do that. What the fuck they're going to look at me for? You get what I'm saying? But once I went in there and got to talk to some of these dancers, they were struggling like I was.
Starting point is 00:33:57 They were just making it look good. Three, we fuck with you three. We, bro, we fear you, bro. Get what I'm saying? So I was like, damn, I like DGs. But isn't that interesting that you, when you were a dude who didn't really have shit going, for you that you were looking at the strippers like they really had something going on.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I thought they, bro. And now that you're a dude who really got something going for you, you can look at that and understand like, ah. I understand. I understand. And some of them are dope. Like they really like putting in the word, but some of them you could also see through and be like, okay, you're a crackhead.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Yeah, some of them just pretty. Some of them just pretty. Got a bad-ed body. But broken a bitch, leaving on the floor, ain't got no car. But when you're at a certain point in your life, you're looking at them like they're the shit. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Like at that point, at that point, point of time, when I was broke in there, I was scared of a stripper. I was scared of a stripper. I would talk to a stripper outside strip club. Right. Like if I would see a stripper outside of the strip club at that time in my life, yeah, I shoot my shot, I'll pop my shit. But in the strip club, now I was scared of them.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Because in the strip club, money rules, everything. Yes. And I was broke in the bitch and looking at them, I'm looking like, this whole bad shit ain't gonna want on a nigga like me. Look at the dirty-ass shirt I got on. This dirty-ass shirt I got on. I had the hottest song though in the city. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Isn't it crazy to think that when you go to the strip club, you are being judged on everything that you got on, on your fit, on your jewelry, on your tattoos, or whatever. But then meanwhile, the bitches are naked. They scope. Yeah, they scope me. They're being judged completely on themselves, aside from their outfit and the makeup that they put on.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Meanwhile, you got to go in there like a fucking king, sort of trying to display your worthiness. Facts, really, really, these strippers are motherfucking. some of them some motherfucking cut though with the with the get money shit they don't get a fucking got on some designer suit bit what you feel to throw yeah yeah like real they'll get a fucking if you nigga iced out and you can go get the warns though so you know it's like see that's sometime only your matter like she you can have on motherfucking thousand dollar a fee is you
Starting point is 00:35:59 can't throw fifteen thousand dollar a word of one you don't love strippers love you you couldn't see do you like could you see yourself being a relationship with a girl's stripper or do you even do you do go to the strip club or are you one of those guys that is like trying to see what's happening with the strippers no no no no no not like not like now i don't knock no strippers i don't i'm cool with a lot of strippers you know what i'm cool with any any young black female who's struggling trying to get their money you know what i said to survive if they got a dance and pop that ass i ain't i don't knock you know what i'm saying like for real like but am i out here saying i'm gonna go get me a stripper girlfriend like no i ain't
Starting point is 00:36:36 I ain't doing all that, but I don't knock them, though. You get them. I don't hear some strippers. I ain't going to say strippers nasty. Yeah, nah. I don't fuck a lot of them, you get what I'm saying? But it's like, it's like, am I out here trying to settle down one? Like, nah, that ain't, that ain't my thing, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:36:51 But like, I fuck with them though. You get what I respect their hustle. You get what I'm saying? I feel like once a girl been stripping long enough, though, they become so gangster that it's almost like that you couldn't even imagine yourself dating them because they're so smart about taking money up out of dude that it's like intimidating. Like, dancers don't seem too much. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Like you gotta understand, they see 100 different niggas. They know too much. So out of their 100 different niggas, if they don't talk to 40 of them, out of their 40 of them, if they don't actually pulled up on 20 of them and got to see how they live. It's like, they sing so much, so it's like, shit, they sunk in. It's like they're into this. It's like, you know, it's like players club.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They told Diamond, like, Ebony got something in the game. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? There you go. Diamond would try to pay their intuition at the school. You had the tuition.
Starting point is 00:37:34 You know what I was it? I was an intuition. But so what is your lifestyle like when you're back home and everything? Like are you someone who's in the strip clubs all the time? No, I don't go to the strip club. I don't go to the strip club. DG is my favorite strip club, though, bro. Like, I don't know what it's looking like in there now.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Because I ain't been in there, you know what I'm saying? Like, but that first DGs when I first came out and I was broke, bro. I got so close to some of them downstairs in there. They were struggling like you. me. I'm like, man, I love this motherfucking club. It ain't even the ass shaking and none of that. Fuck out of it. It's the, it's the, bitch,
Starting point is 00:38:13 we're on a mission. You weren't here, dad, trying to get that bag, bitch, I'm in their studio trying to rap. You know what I'm saying? So then when I come back, it was certain strippers and DGs. When I came back, I got some money, I'm going to throw that bag on their ass. You know what I? You never thought about being a pimp? No, man. Come on,
Starting point is 00:38:29 let's incriminate you. P! Duh! No, man. I'm just a friend of it. out of it. Well, but if you're really the, if you're like the slut whisperer, if you could be in the strip club and really have their ear and they really trust you and shit, doesn't that just kind of occurred you at some point? Like, shit, we can make a whole bunch of money together.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Man, man, I don't do some things, man. You know, so. They're tough on that now, huh? They call you a trafficker. Hey, man, I got people right now. They're gone. Bye-bye. I ain't going to see them to my son get goddamn grown.
Starting point is 00:39:02 So, shit. For that. Really? So, you know, like, shit, man. It's a thousand ways to get some money. So, you know. Right. You know.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Shout out of time my P-nickers, though, man, who's breaking on a biz. You get what I'm saying? When you went through that period where you decided to, that you got out of jail, you decided to leave the streets alone, start getting into the music shit.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Was that hard for you to make that break? No, because I didn't leave the streets alone. I was still in the streets. Right. I got out. I went to apply. My mama took me to Fores Lane on Croke. To me the Kroger's on Fores Lane.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Mm-hmm. I went up there and applied. She applied for me on the computer. I got the job. I ain't go to that bitch because they're gonna tell me I was pushing baskets
Starting point is 00:39:40 You were about to be in the Kroger In the parking lot Yeah I said now I want to bid The cash register Now you gotta push Man it's hot in the bitch I got on the bus
Starting point is 00:39:48 And left Adam I got the bus Went back to the hood It wasn't for you Yeah man Like And like so I ain't never had no job No shit like that
Starting point is 00:39:55 But like a nigga was in the streets But like A nigga was moving different Because it was like I'm on papers I can't be doing it I can't be doing it I can't be on front street
Starting point is 00:40:03 I can't be I'm always front line friend's summer. Like, I was highway. You're gonna see me. You know what I'm five for five. I gotta make sure you see me. And when you're in Dallas at that point in your life, are you feeling like the cops are all over you, like they want you? You're talking about before the rap shit. Like when you were first starting trying to get the rap shit going. Oh, when I first started getting the rap shit, it wasn't so much as the police yet.
Starting point is 00:40:28 It was just my P-O. Like, rap is not a job. Rap is not this. rap is just something that you just having fun with. I'm like, man, you know, this shit real. Right. You get what I'm saying? Like, you know. Like, I ain't racist or nothing, but like, you fool white. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:44 You ain't mixed? No. Like. I'm 115, Spuck. Oh, okay. Not I'm just kidding. But, like, in my city, on Papers, it's like I had a white PEO. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:57 Miss Samantha. She was cool. She was cool. And they gave me this other white. lady who ain't with them. Like, just, I recorded her bitch ass. That's how I got her. I got a new P.O. and shit.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Because she kept referring to me, every time something happened, she said, you people, you and your people think y'all can just do it. I used to look around like. You recorded it. Yeah, I was like, lady. That's tight. I was like, lady. Why, every time I come in here, you're talking about you people?
Starting point is 00:41:27 It's only me on probation. I don't see nobody else in here. So every time I went in company, I was like, oh, black people. Your people think y'all can do whatever. Is she just sitting in there working for the government saying that kind of shit all day? Yeah, y'all be late. That's fuck. Y'all be late.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Your people be late. You sag your pants. All my people, black people. Okay, I come in there one day. I'm on my Pee's Q's out. Send my phone down. Yeah, ooh, I let her pop up and shit. Yeah, your people, da, da, da, she's gone.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I'm ticking tired of your people. I've been liking your people for a long time. Wow. I said, oh, my people has in. Black people. Call it what you want to kind. I said, okay, cool, good bitch. Y'all got you. Supervisor. Y'all stop giving me a hard time trying to violate a
Starting point is 00:42:08 niggie and see, get this whole pile of that. Right. Oh yeah, they, you know, you can't be saying stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, man. Do you encounter, do you feel like the racism is still strong in Dallas in particular? It's strong in America, me. You see the white boys gunning us down.
Starting point is 00:42:25 I know. It's been a rough year. What they make you think of? Like, damn, look at my people. I heard gun down to eat. It makes me feel like, wow. everybody was talking about Islamic terrorism all the time. And now it's like 100% like online, weirdo white boy killings.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Oh, God. Right. Listen, a white boy can take an assault rifle right now going to a day curb. Yeah. Wack 15 babies. They're going to take him in custody and give him a hamburger and say, he was just something was wrong. He has him as a kid.
Starting point is 00:42:53 He lost his daddy on a tractor ride. Let a nigger go in there with a BB gun. Shooting at the glass at the bakery. They're going to whack them. Ain't going to talk to them. Don't want to know how he got up there. None of that. It's like a trend now too.
Starting point is 00:43:10 It's a, yeah. They keep seeing it. They keep all imitating each other doing the same shit. That's like, no, that's like a trend for the loud. Like, shit, I'll be thinking sometimes, like, they be riding around like, hey, think I can kill this black boy and get away with it? She and everybody else is getting away with it.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I don't know. Let's try. It's a contest. It's like on the message board where they're all talking to, A-Chane. They refer to it out. like a body counter like oh who could get the highest count yeah the full of New Zealand kill 50 people they're talking about him like he got the highest count that's correct yeah man it's so it's like that's why that's where they go back to keep a girl right you get what I'm saying so it's like yeah you know
Starting point is 00:43:46 I mean a lot of people are trying to use all this shit as an excuse to make it a lot harder for the average American to have a gun too which would be a shame nice shit crap yeah uh let's talk about the actual music because so once you walk going like how would you describe your style and what you're doing musically because you're fucking good. Yeah, my shit. It goes under discuss because you got so many good hood stories. Yeah, man, it's like I can tell a story. I listen to Pock and Boosey.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Boose is my favorite rapper. Pock and Busce is my favorite rapper. And Boots is my favorite rapper. So it's like, it's like I listen to their stories. You know what I'm saying? And I'll be like, damn. I can tell them same stories. I'm going through the same thing.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Like, it's like, it's like people feed you more. So it's like, and I don't just tell the story. I'm pretty sure you when you heard my verses. I got a, I got a chop, like, chop rap. You know what I'm saying? I ain't just like, once upon the time. You got a bunch of flow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Because you can't be a storytelling rapper in 2019 and really get popping if you just rapping boring. Yeah, yeah. You know, I sang that bitch to you. I, woo, woo, you know what I'm saying? Like, I just did a song, uh, Kyle, uh, I got too much pride. And that bitch is like the way I just told it, like it just break it down.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Like the hook off. I don't did some grimy things. Fuck being real, my friends reminded me. It ain't no love and it get rough. I had some time to think. Bitch you can leave you only want me for the final things. Hard on my sleeves and they're going to see it if I die today. I got too much pride, too much pride.
Starting point is 00:45:29 It hurt deep down inside, but I, I. but I can't lie, I, look, I got too much pride, too much pride, I, uh, look, I won't let that shit's lie, and there's no lie, then you just coming in. Caught a body and I ain't talk about it, but rap about it just to show them I'm about it. Investigation, homicide on my body, they gave me options, but they know how I'm rocking. Couple hours in the cell, and in noxious, I'm drinking water from up under the faucet. Niggas plight and pylons all in my pocket. They want to rhyme it because they say that I got it.
Starting point is 00:45:54 So it's like, a nigga, but I'm telling their story, but I'm going to give it to you, like, I'm going to give it to you cutthough, you know what I'm saying? and jump out the gate with that bit so you feel it. And I mean, you kind of skip back and forth between singing and rapping and kind of this dodging back and forth would kind of always switch up your flow. Be melodic with it sometime, man, cross over, you know what, so the people feel you, man.
Starting point is 00:46:11 It's like a little melody. Back in the day when the slaves was in the field and they was working, it was always that one slave that just get out of character with the other slaves and sing different. It's like, yeah, yeah, you start working harder. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, I switch up the flow, man. It does kind of have that sort of ring to it.
Starting point is 00:46:29 where it's almost like something that you would imagine, like an a cappella type thing, like a bunch of guys singing in school or some shit like that. Yeah, that was you? Okay. Yeah, yeah. Ravling's like, whatever you all through that on me. That's right.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Who has shown you love in the game so far that has surprised you, people that have reached out that have understood what you're trying to accomplish, that kind of thing? Man, it's like. Because it's kind of impressive that you're so, like, self-made, that you're not somebody who, it seems like you are somebody that it would have been logical if somebody had gone and signed you early on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:02 And you kind of resisted that so far. But it's like, it's a lot of people, but like my favorite, my favorite, everybody knows, Bosa. Yeah. Oh yeah, that song you guys got there was fire. Like I went to know without, I was going to wake up one day and my favorite rapper, be saying, come to my ass, niggil. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:18 We got a whole album coming out next month. That's crazy. Yeah, man. So it's like, it's like, but outside of rap, just people in the game, like these labels, when they call it, they're like they embrace it. He's like, man, you doing your thing. And I don't been to motherfucking. I don't been to motherfucking.
Starting point is 00:47:36 So many record labels on flew me out, Jeff Von, they're at APG, I know what I'm saying? I don't been out there. Chuck and Jeff. Yeah. I don't been out there to Jeff. I'd have been to New York. Doro flew me out of Republic Records.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Epic records with Zeke and Sylvia. You know what I'm saying? I sat down with them a long time ago. I came in Universal and sat in there with Whitney. And it was just like, so it's like, it's like, I appreciate that. Like, I'm like, damn, I'm doing all that. Like, y'all calling my phone. Like, you know, niggas be, on, you know, do you hear niggas be rapping?
Starting point is 00:48:14 Labels calling my phone. Lying like a bitch, anybody call your phone. Like, shut the fuck. It's just sound cool to say. Labels call my phone. No, I'm really. Well, the thing is, too. They really call them up.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I'm really in the meeting. Labels will do a meeting, like a little meeting with whoever. Yeah. They meet with rappers all the time that they don't plan on signing just because they know that maybe if you get popping in six months, then they got a little bit better reputation or whatever. But I mean, it's different because your shit is doing such numbers on YouTube. And, you know, think about something like APG. I mean, they fucking sign Young Boy. You know how many streams, young boy does, how many YouTube plays Young Boy does?
Starting point is 00:48:45 And your music is like, I'm not saying you are like him exactly or whatever. But there's definitely like anyone who listens to a young boy, I think it definitely potentially become a fan of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, we talk about the same shit, you know. You know, just that's a sort of melodic but like real street talk type of lot. And it's like, it's like in all these label meetings, they all act the same thing. Like, how are you putting up them numbers and you're not even signed? Like, what's the trick?
Starting point is 00:49:10 Because they got all these artists that are just trying to do some numbers. Yeah, they got a lot. They got a lot of art. They tell me like, we got a lot of artists that some of them don't even put up them numbers. Like, like, how's you doing it? And they laugh because I'd be like, shit, Instagram and Facebook. Like, that's real. You have you on Facebook?
Starting point is 00:49:28 Yeah, yeah. That's where the streets are really at, huh? I got 300,000 followers on Facebook. Have me, no IG. Twitter is where all the fucking... 300,000 subscribers on YouTube. Right, yeah, I mean, we, like, something like me, I'm on Instagram, I'm on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:49:44 but I feel like a lot of, like, real sort of, like, people that are really in the trenches and shit. They're on Facebook. Facebook, man, I tell people all the time, listen, IG is... Hipsters, the people who know what's going on a little bit. It's the media. It's like what's going on.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Like, it's musical. It's like they want to know what's popping right now. That's where the rappers are. Yeah, that's where everybody that's, you know, the models, you know what I'm saying? Facebook's where the kids went to high school with her. Facebook is the whole hood. The whole block. They write on the book.
Starting point is 00:50:12 On the book. That's where I love being it. Facebook is my favorite to be it. That's why I'm mad right now. I'm back in jail. I've been in jail 60 days. God damn. I been in jail on Facebook, man.
Starting point is 00:50:23 60 motherfucking days. I just got out. Wait, what did you do? Bro, I don't even be doing it. You told somebody you to clap them? Nah, I don't even talk like that on Facebook. I don't tell nobody I'm going to kill them on Facebook. I'm going to shoot them.
Starting point is 00:50:37 That's why my niggas be telling me then I'd be like, sir. Oh, Facebook, sir, come on. But like, now though, I took a pitching foot locker with my hand like that. That's it? I was like, the niggas be posting real motherfucking guns. What? I did my fingers like this. Oh, that goes against our code of country.
Starting point is 00:50:56 conduct and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- what I said man this some bullshit so then they let me out right when I got out of jail this time for the Ford Center shit I go I was training it all day they show me down again up now it's too much going on you got video come out you live going viral type of shit you know with the jail at the four-sum yeah they let me out I was out two days slam me and get home back in there right now what the fuck that's so fucked up that's so fucked up right I just got out I'm back in there but I love Facebook You're right. That's where the hole. That's where everybody is.
Starting point is 00:51:28 That's where the ho's right. That's where everybody is. Really? No, I was written on IG. I ain't got a hoe off Facebook going on a long time. Yeah, nah. The ho's on IG. You're going to get a hoe out of IG.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yeah. Before you get a whole out of Facebook. Yeah. Facebook. Instagram's all about trying to find the girl before she gets, she blows up and gets flown out by Gunner or some shit. Try to find them, find them before everybody else realizes is how hot they are. Then way.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Don't like too many pictures. You're not going to pop up. For real. follow nobody because dudes are definitely looking through who you follow. Oh, yeah, she, well, I be seeing it out. It's so weird because now with Instagram, it's so easy to look at a girl's picture and see who you follow liked it. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And you're like, God damn. And you're just wondering, like, did all these dudes beat? Right there. Right there. Should I even try to holler? I don't get too serious with the social media bids. I don't know. I got a girlfriend now.
Starting point is 00:52:23 That's a lot simpler. Yeah. I can't be doing all that. I'm married, too. Are you really? Yeah, I'm married. Literally marriage. There you go.
Starting point is 00:52:30 That's a good. How long you been married for? All my life. All my life, nice. It was an arranged marriage. Somebody, you were born, you were born into this arrangement? Like an Indian fucking dude. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:52:42 She's here from heaven, man. She's just the guy this, man. Wow. That's amazing. How many times have you left your chains on to have sex? Is that something that really happens? Hell now, these huck coming up. Because they weigh like probably five pounds.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Yeah, these bids just coming. They're hugging on my knee right now. Oh, okay. This bitch's coming out. My boy with me. Yeah, so you put your friend on the back. I got my boy with me. Boy Lee.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Yeah, Roy Lee at the motherfucker. So he passed, what, like a year ago? Maybe a little longer? I almost been a year. It ain't been a year. Really? It ain't been no full year. Talk to me about how your friendship with him started.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Man, I was a fan of this nigga first. Really? This nigga got down. Hood, a comedian in the city. Right. So before I met this nigga, man, I used to I always watch this nigga. That's why I'm doing my thing, though. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:31 He inspired you early on. No, no, no, no. I'm rapping. I'm just, you know, it's different hustle. So, you know, he's not a rap. He's a comedian. So on my downtime, I'm watching, like, I'm watching funny shit with him. You take that?
Starting point is 00:53:46 What are you saying? I said, on my downtime, I'm watching videos of him, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to get me a little laugh or whatever, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm sitting in the studios sitting at the half. I'm showing him. I'm showing people. I'm showing my pylons and shit. Look this nigger, man, black-ass,
Starting point is 00:53:58 a nigga funny, no. You know what I'm saying? So he didn't know until I met him, like you was an eye already a start of me. You get what I'm saying? But he's looking at me the same way. Like, he's my own three, niggins. I'm looking at you like, no, you're Royal League.
Starting point is 00:54:13 No, you're going viral. Yeah. You're going viral. Millions of views on Facebook, bro. Millions. Like, so it's like, when I, I didn't know the nigger was from Dallas. You know what I thought the nigger from like,
Starting point is 00:54:24 he's so black. He's black and he's so black. in the beach. I thought he's from Louisiana, Alabama. Right. I thought he from somewhere around there, fun in the big with the goals in the mouth. So when I found out, he's from the city. He's from Sadd Ellis. I'm like, damn, for real.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Woo-woo. Had my people reach out to him and shit. I want to talk to the nigga, like, I want to talk to the nigga, like, bro. I want to fold the nigga or something. Like, you know what I'm saying? We both doing our thing. Right. Talk to him and shit.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I finally talked to the nigga and shit. He charged me. Like, he charged. He said, man, give me $50. He said, give me $50. He said, give me $50 dollars. To appear in his video. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Gass money. Yeah. Give me $50, man. So we end up doing a little skit and we did another skit and all that led to just give my number, man. We woo, woo, woo, woo. So now we just chilling his character. Like his whole, like I say, you meet a nigga, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:55:13 You know a nigga up and down if a nigga, you know, cut a certain way. So, you know, like a niggist started fucking with him, strong. So it's like, now that's just my partner. That bitch, come on, pull up on where we got going. You know what I'm saying? From the clubs to. He got shows and shit. I got show, he pop up, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:55:28 So it was like, everything with Goochie. So that all my dog, that's how I met that nigga. Like, we got tight. What was it like when he passed? It heard me. Yeah. Yeah. I never put him on a shirt.
Starting point is 00:55:41 I never put him on a shirt. Does it meant too much? I put him right here. Fuck a shirt. Mm. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I put my, I ain't put him on a shirt. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:51 So like, shit. It's like he wants to put him on a shirt. It's like he wasn't supposed to die yet. Like, can't what I'm saying? A comedian. He ain't no gangster. Right. He's not straight-knit.
Starting point is 00:56:01 He wasn't really like that at all. No, he'll tell you, I don't know gangster. Lou. He'll tell you, I ain't no gangster. I ain't no street, nigga. I'm from the hood, though. You know what I'm saying? I ain't a hoeing me because I tell jokes.
Starting point is 00:56:15 You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, I looked at it like, and him getting shot and all this shit. It's like, that wasn't for you. You know what I'm saying? Like, that ain't even for your whole. You get what I'm saying? Right.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Shoot a comedian who tell jokes on Facebook, though. That's crazy. Who do stand-up comedy, bro, at these little karaoke bars and shit and doing the shows outside of that and shit. You don't find too many comedians get shot. Right. You don't lie. That wasn't for them.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Is that part of why it's hard for you to let some of your beefs go? It's because... I ain't got no beef cooked because of that? It's not. Nothing because of that? Yeah, no. I ain't got it. Yeah, no. Yeah. Oh, you know. Yeah. Oh, you know. Yeah. My nigga through with me there. Yeah. Yeah. We're heavy. That's what's it. Yeah. Enjoy a life's mad every day. Rest and peace. Yeah. BG4L on bubbly boys in trouble. That way. What do you have coming out in the future in terms of... Old summer. Going to drop September 1st. That's the project? Yeah, the whole project. O'Summer, man. It's up.
Starting point is 00:57:21 You feel like this is your first real project? Yeah, for right now, I feel brand new all over again. It's the new. That me and Boosa got the bad ass, my 3 album. Oh, wow. Right after that. Yeah, right after that. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Oh, that's like. That's gonna be big. Damn. Okay. Well, hey, I appreciate you coming in and letting my audience get to know you and everything. It's been a real good time. Appreciate your having me, man. Yeah, man, no doubt.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Yeah, man. Y'all, we live right on motherfucking, no jumping. Yep. And on Facebook. Actually, really, we have almost no presence on Facebook. For real? Yeah. Yeah, we got to get on that.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Yeah, get on my name. I need your help, social media manager. You need a part-time job? Come on, yeah. That's how you should I work. Mo3, no jumper, coolest podcast, so we all, check us out on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes, like, comment, and subscribe.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Appreciate you, G. That way. Bye.

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