No Jumper - The Monday Show Ep 24 w/ RobCity & Lush

Episode Date: November 15, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A show. If you haven't already, go get your tickets for the live show this Friday at the Novel, LA Live. All my Latina Thickams come choose up on a player. What's up? All your Latina Thickams. I already got my balcony ticket. Pull up. Welcome, Rob.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Thank you. Any darker complexion, but actually, I don't discriminate. No matter what you are. What did big pun say, I don't discriminate? I regulate every shade of that ass. Come on. Bro, I appreciate you, man. Damn.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Yeah, I'll be there. Josh is texting the... I was going to ask you, did you officially get your invite? Um, I just wanted to know exactly what I'll be doing there. You tell me? And, and Josh...
Starting point is 00:00:42 No, bro, because, again, it's a three-hour live show. Yeah. Like, how Yori was like, how he came out for, like, you know, but he was backstage just chilling for three hours. Bro, like, chilling backstage for three hours.
Starting point is 00:00:54 It's nuts. Aren't you worried about all the... Aren't you worried about all the... The gangsters that are after you? Nah, not the least bit. He felt like not the least bit. Not, but, you know, but, you know, Josh gave me the rundown of what he expect him to be doing there, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:09 So, you know, I'm now coming and enthusiastic and excited for my role. You got your private security? No, bro, listen, man. I don't think we'll be allowed to bring our strap inside this. I'm not sure with a novel. Yeah, right. I've never tried to get a gun. in Anthenosa. No, no, no, no, no. So if nobody is going to have weapons, at this point,
Starting point is 00:01:36 it's like, you know, like who got hands, you feel me? So, you know. Who got hands? Right. So, you know, at that point, for me, I ain't worried about it, man. You feel me? Shout out to, uh, you know, uh, I know you took the 380 pocket rocket in your damn, uh, your damn purse. Don't even front. Uh, not at the Nova, but I have. I know you have. I, I even got my ticket under the balcony seats. So I'll tell anybody that's going to be that. You got balcony seats? That's all that was left.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yo, I'm gonna be on your shit, all right? Balcony is VIP. It is? At the No, yeah. It's like a bar up there and everything. Oh, okay. We're chilling it. I think it is.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I'll be out there. He upgraded. Shoot. Bro, listen. No, bro, like, balcony seats is good because you're not like, you know, like with the nick. You feel me? Right?
Starting point is 00:02:26 Like, you up there. Bro, hey, man, listen. Nah, but I might be. you chilling with you once I get done done with my stuff. Do I go out there with the people? Okay. Of course. Bro.
Starting point is 00:02:37 You better stay your ass back stage. What? I let you know how to no jumper fan bases out there. Yeah, bro. Fan, bro, like, listen, man, like, I'm somebody who, you know, I'm for the people, right? I feel like I'm one of the main guys who's
Starting point is 00:02:51 for the people, meaning like I'm for the people in Parliament. So, bro, listen, man, like, I feel like people will be excited to see me. I feel like people will be, you know, like looking forward to it because if they don't see me at the live show, you're not seeing me anywhere else, you feel me? So it's like, right?
Starting point is 00:03:06 Right, so copy tickets to the live show because that's where you'll be able to see me. Flacco meet and greet. Hell no. In fact, yo, listen, if niggas pay for you in a year, you know, like, let's do it, you feel me? All you gang members that want to catch this guy slipping?
Starting point is 00:03:20 No, real talk, if anybody try to run up on Flacco, they're getting packed the fuck out from all angles. Like, no. I think all the African, Liberians, Nigerians is pulling up on you. No, not.
Starting point is 00:03:29 That's cool. But if anybody come up that extra shit, we're not going to let it sloth. We wouldn't let nobody touch them. You know, listen. We might joke around and all that, but. It's right, too, though. Like, there's going to be, like, mad, like, if my people's, like, in the crowd. Like, this mad Nigerians coming.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Tell me. Shout out to my niggas, man. Zelly, K.way, you feel me? Right? You know, the whole night, bro. You feel me? So, listen, man, we're coming to have a good time. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:03:53 I love L.A. I love the people here. You feel me? I'm just excited to finally be able to meet the people. because the last live show I was supposed to be there because Adam did invite me there this was like my first week here
Starting point is 00:04:03 but then I had to go back to North Dakota so you know yeah well my bitch had caught herpes that day so she got COVID you sure? Oh I'm like damn yeah yeah my bitch caught herpes she got she got airborne AIDS
Starting point is 00:04:18 no she had got COVID you'll watch I see you tell OJ the Juslin man you used to sling that work to his music absolutely Have you ever sucked a fiend? Absolutely. Okay, so. Here's a thing.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Like a real smoker in front of the liquor store? No, no, no, no, no. Cokehead bitches, to show. Like, I mean, fiend is a very, there's varying degrees of fiend. How bad was it? Like, were they just homeless fiends?
Starting point is 00:04:44 No, no, no, no, no. Like, man, attractive females that a lot of people would fuck with. That don't count then. But they was, you feel me? Like, they were in need. I was in need. A favor for a favor. Like Scarface and Nas said, easy call.
Starting point is 00:05:01 You broke the back of a crackhead, bitch. I definitely got done. My nigger. Yo, I love my nigger lust, man. That's the thing. I said. You know, a lot of head. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:05:12 A lot of head. Oh, just head? I mean, I, no, I've stabbed as well. I've stabbed as well. I've spiked for show. But not, like, the frequent thing would be like, because here's the thing. If you get head from a girl when she on Coke,
Starting point is 00:05:25 there's a chance if while you're getting domed up and this is a pro tip for all of y'all, all right? If you're getting domed up by a girl on Coke, she's going to be very enthusiastic. It's going to be great. Except for if you catch her throat at the moment when that drip hits,
Starting point is 00:05:39 then there's a chance that your dickhead goes numb. Oh. That's going to, like, ruin the entire experience, right? But if she's doing crystal, meth. All good. Now, to the point where I'd be like, here, you snorted off, you feel me,
Starting point is 00:05:53 snorted off my balls, go to town beforehand, and then you can earn yourself some more. At that point, no. At that point, though, if they're on meth, I feel like the corrosion of their teeth will, like, kind of leave it to where it's, like, no teeth and just all gums. When they bite your shit off, too? No, no, no, I don't.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Oh, they're on crystal metal. No, they're on my water. No, they're not no teeth. The head is going to be fine with no teeth. No, I wasn't really fond of that type of clientele. That's why, like, selling certain drugs, I wasn't. Like, you know, I would prefer to, like, you know, classier drugs, like cocaine with like a more upscale clientele typically.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Yeah. But, you know, I'm not saying I was never, you know, it go down in the DMs. Yeah, man. Well. How to flop or what? Dang, we ain't did how to flopping a few weeks you feel like, huh? Yeah. For how to flop.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Man, listen, man, I'll probably, you know, I'm not going to go. In fact, yeah, yo, I went back in Drake's catalog, bro, and I listened to this shit called The Care Package. I feel like that is severely like severely underrated because what Drake was doing on that album is what a lot of people have been saying, yo, oh my God, Drake, I wish you would do. Bro, he's rapping, rapping at a level where it's like, come on, dog. Well, that was all his throwaway stuff that didn't make it to the album. That was Pete Drake SoundCloud, though.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Like, he took those songs off with SoundCloud and put it on the album. So I feel like Drake has been part of that song clown wave like a little oozy in them. So, like, he was part of that era. My nix. SoundClick even before SoundCloud. Sound click. Yeah, it was sound click. And that's when, um...
Starting point is 00:07:27 Sorgia Boy got the... Around the time, Drake put out, like, successful with Tray songs and records like that. Really the So Far Gone project, which was both... Technically, it's a mixtape, but it's before Take Care. That's peak Drake as far as on. That Piff. That was a crazy down on that pit. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:46 But like, when you listen to like... So you just now discovering Care Baggett? No, no. It's like I heard in all the songs. Right? But like... Together. Yeah, right, but it's a body of work where it's like, yo, dog, like this nigga is
Starting point is 00:08:01 doing this thing, bro. Like, for example, man, like, and he has like 5 p.m., no, 5 a.m. in New York, I think. And... 9 p.m. in New York. No. No, no, no. 5 a.m. in Toronto. Yeah, yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:08:14 4 p.m. in Calabas. Yeah, right? Way later. Yo, yo, bro. Like, he got, like, those songs like back to back, right? So I'm like, damn, daw, like, right? You just gave us a little. Lyrical masterpiece, then right after that is the 5 a.m. in Toronto shit.
Starting point is 00:08:27 9 a.m. in Dallas. Oh, my God. Any, and the bridal path one, too. Any time series by Drake, you know we've been to tweak. Yeah. Every single time. Every time. That's why I was surprised to see that on the album Her Lost because that was 21.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Yeah. I think 21 did his thing on it, though, low key. Yeah, he did. But I ain't going to lie, I was waiting for Drake to come in. Yeah. Every time. I'm like, because I've seen it, it was a timestamp with the, you know, with the location. I'm like, oh, shit, Drake about to go crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Because my favorite one is that, was that 4 p.m. in Calabasas? Yeah. When he addressed Diddy? Yeah. Like, it was like, bad way to take that. Oh, my God. Like, that shit was crazy. So when I seen it on this time, I'm like, oh, my God, he did it.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And then it was 21, but 21 still slick. I feel like he gave 21 that alley. Like, that's probably one of the biggest allies because that's a iconic Drake series. And to give it to 21, it has to speak on their actual relationship, how close they are. Because I ain't alive, bar-wise, 21 is not on that Drake level. But to Drake to be like, yo. I know everyone's going to check for this record and I'm going to give it to you. It speaks on their collaboration.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Right, right. It's Drake's way of, for lack of a better word, manufacturing street credibility. You're right. I mean. But he did it in a really graceful way. Like it's, you could do it in a way where it seems because it comes off as corny. But Drake actually makes sense in the context of those records. Like he still go up.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And not only that, too, 21 is a big fan of like R&B. You see him sing a lot of 90s R&B record. So I feel like him, Drake knows, like, you connect, like, we connect the music. Like, I feel like he'd be singing like SWV and certain stuff where you're like, yo, a trapper will actually sing that. And I think 21 even singing on the Her Lost album is just showing you that him, 21 and Drake are perfect because he's a hood dude that still connects to R&B and still soft. He's a reader, too.
Starting point is 00:10:15 He's not a stupid nigga, right? So that's why I think like Drake fuck with him. But also, too, is like he did great. Because he's from England. Yeah, right? No, listen, he did great though, right? But then let's not get to carry away, though, because I'm seeing niggas on these fucking, like, Instagram pages, Twitter, talking about how 21 carry Drake. You niggas is smoking dick.
Starting point is 00:10:31 No, absolutely not. Not at all. He didn't. He didn't. I mean, Drake clearly, I mean, all the quotables, 90% of them. But, which I was surprised about. But are you all familiar with the theory of Amber's bosom? No.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Okay. Amber Rose's Tits, incredible, right? If you are a rapper and you're resting your face, on Amber Rose's tits, your bars are going to be off the hook. And then as soon as the warm embrace of her nipples are removed from your mouth,
Starting point is 00:11:03 instantly, it's like a curse and you have to fight to get back on. I mean, look what happened with Wiz, look what happened with Yay, look what happened with 21. They all, like, have you look at their trajectory, go like this, and then they had to fight to go back up again.
Starting point is 00:11:16 So I know we was about to get into that. Nah, come on, bro. Absolutely. Absolutely. I don't say that for Wizz. I give a Wizz that. Bro, 21, like, already, like, dropped like a classic album right before Amber Roles, right?
Starting point is 00:11:28 Yeah, he did. I mean, mixtape, mixed tape. Yeah, okay, yeah. No, he had dropped the tape with Red Ops and all that. But then when he had his biggest commercial moments or, like, on the rise to it, Amber's Tits were present. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:11:42 That fool out of a shirt that said, hoe on it, walk doing this slut walk and all that. I'm a whole, I'll never let him live that. No, I'll never let him live. to. Nah, I'll never let him live that down, bro, because he was, bro, that was peak simping. And, like, 21 is a gangster, right?
Starting point is 00:11:55 So, so see him, like, where I'm a slut to and support, like, the whole shit and the thottery is crazy. I support the whole shit and the thottery. I'm all here for it. Sexual empowerment. Let's go, you feel me? Drop your draws as much as you want, you feel me? You get your money.
Starting point is 00:12:10 No, listen, but, like, that shit got crazy when I seen bitches who, like, who was at the fucking rally and she told him about, oh, I got zero, like, I got zero, like, I got zero. I'm a version, but I'm a slut too. At this point, bro, like, y'all just making up worse down there, you feel me? Hey, all I got to say is prove it. Why she, why she's the reason about it? I feel like she canceled it, slow walks.
Starting point is 00:12:30 No, it was like pre-COVID. So, like, once COVID came, she kind of said fuck this shit, you know? So who's your, uh, your hot or flight when we went on a tangent? No, Drake care package is my hot. You feel me? Possible. What you got? Yeah, I'm going on with, you know, I'm from the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I got to go with my boy K-Flock. He's about to drop actual project being in jail and stuff. all the singles he dropped. He's one of the hottest rappers that's dropping from jail. And I feel like if he was out, we would feel the presence of what we have from Pop Smoke. So I'm going with K. Flok. He's dropping that to Friday. So check that out.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And we're going to unpack this man's repertoire and current relevance a little bit later. But Kings disease three by Naz just dropped. Speaking of the East Coast, ain't not one nigger. Listen, no, bro. Hey, no, listen. Wait, bro, listen. Hey, no nigga hopping in the wheel right now saying, bro, drop that King disease three, bro, this shit just drop his fire.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Ain't not one nigga saying that right now. Well, if you're not a fucking tip-dogging, dry clipping, dick riding, SoundCloud raised ass, new booty ass, mark ass. Come on, fool. Red dress ass. We definitely going to get into is not relevant in 2022 or not. We're going to chop game. But I'm really fucking with Glow Realis Project.
Starting point is 00:13:47 and I think I don't think we've seen in a long time if for dudes and you know females to be championing a female rapper
Starting point is 00:14:01 love me some gorilla yeah come on it's that Drake effect man like it's her quotables bro like she just got like songs for nothing but freaking quotables which is how Drake became like a surplower
Starting point is 00:14:11 right he just did songs with bad quotables to where like you had to go to like Instagram and quote everything I don't care if she sound like a corn-fed, a cornbread fed version of pop smoke. I'm still hitting from the back. That's her fake voice though. No, that's her fake voice. Let's be real, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I wasn't going to expose her. I fuck with her. But I'm a gorilla, bro. We see them early songs, my nigger. You wasn't sounding like no husky nigger, bro. You were sounding like a real female, right? With the whole little voice. No, she had to do that that probably broke her heart.
Starting point is 00:14:42 That's why she probably got on some other shit. Man, hell nah, bro. But yo, and now we start. starting to see again like the like the power of artist development right because I've been told you she's an industry plan but like we started to see the well how do you define industry plan sure so we thought that her f and f right was this organic thing that that like just kind of took off it on his own it turns out there was a label and some power brokers behind her before she dropped that so you know so it's not really like organic so I mean to me that that that's
Starting point is 00:15:17 It is organic in the sense that you don't know what's going to resonate at the end of the day. Of course. When I think of industry plant, I look at artists like Asher Roth. Remember Asher Roth, the white boy? I love college. Yeah. Like the whole marketing behind him, and even McElmore. And I fucks with McElmore, so I'm not trying.
Starting point is 00:15:34 The whole marketing behind him was, I'm independent. I don't have a machine behind me. Yeah, you do. When you're trying to, like, create this illusion of being independent, but you're not that right there. industry plan. Exactly my point, right? And that's what she did, right? Like, again, like...
Starting point is 00:15:54 But we never, she never said, like, she's independent. That was never, like, a thing, you know? That was, yeah, for her. Yeah. Okay. Right, but, you know, like, there was still this illusion of, yo, she's just an independent, grinding, girl from the ghetto. But turn out of nah, bro, listen, like, you know, like, she already had the team of
Starting point is 00:16:16 Powerbrokers who had that bag behind her and they pushed that song, Heavio niggas, right? You feel me? So, again, she got mad talent, bro, but let's not like pretend like she was this independent queen grind in, just put out this random song on freaking TikTok. That shit took off now, bro. There was some real money and power behind that stuff. I feel like they were, yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:16:35 Because in the sense of that, there was money behind it, but I still feel like it was a gamble because her image wasn't something that we've seen before. Like, she ain't coming with big-ass tities or fake-ass cities, big-ass tass. She came through a girl that you literally know from the block that you grew up with and stuff. So I feel like they did put the money behind her, but you got to put in perspective who else was similar to her that was already in the game. So it's like that's a risk because we're pulling on something that we never seen before.
Starting point is 00:17:01 And if it goes, how do we know if it goes? And I feel like we've never seen a girl like gorilla in the rap game. Bro, wait. Here, so here's why I can't call it a gang, right? Right. Again, like we've never seen a seven foot six nigger with handles and a shot. in an NBA, but we know once we can find a 7'4-6
Starting point is 00:17:20 niggins with a shot, he's going to win. So she is pretty much like, once you defeat all the bitter bitches in the shade room, chat room, she's the head boss. She's the boss of the bitter bitch, meaning like, her whole persona
Starting point is 00:17:35 is what the current climate is for females. The ratchet, yas, I'm not going to. She's the head bitch for that shit, right? So, like, She reminds me of a modern, a modern gangster boo or Mia X. Like a hard-ass chick from the South that can really rap that dudes could actually listen to and not feel embarrassed about it. Now, you want to talk about industry plant, CJ, the dude that did the Whoopi song.
Starting point is 00:17:59 I'll be real, man. That is the textbook definition of an industry plant. And guess what? That proves that it's a roll of the dice because how did he follow that up? You know what I mean? But he can actually rap, though. That's kind of like the fucked up part, right? Because, bro, like, his old videos
Starting point is 00:18:16 when he was skinny as fuck, bro, he was actually spitting, like, some actual, like, some shit that's, you know, damn, bro. Like, this nigga is on par with, like, niggas, like, niggas, like, you film, you know, with, like, let's say, Freddie Gibbs or, like, Jay Cookekekeke. Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 00:18:28 No, no, he was spitting, bro. You're not going to disrespect Freddy Gibbs like that, bro. No, like, he's a great rapper, bro. Like, he knows how to rap. I know you academics raised, but that don't mean you got to get it at gangster Gibbs. I love Freddy Gibbs. No, hell, listen, I love Freddie Gibbs.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Okay, okay. Bro, like, Freddy Gibbs is part of, like, you know, puns low, right? So I spoke with Freddy Gibbs. But CJ was an actual rapper, right? And, like, the fact that he kind of like... It's a very lofty comparison, sir. What, to, like, Freddie Gibbs? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Bro, like, go back to, like, CJ old stuff when, like, he was skinny. Like, bro, he was skinny as fuck. CJ was a good rapper, like Mims was a good rapper. Yeah, Mims was. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, like... This is why I'm hot? Yeah. This is wide.
Starting point is 00:19:07 This is why. He had some bars, too, though. Yeah, exactly. He could actually rap. And I think that's a guy was. pretty in-the-pocket comparison for what CJ was doing. Nah, bro. Like, CJ, if he would have said, yo, fuck the industry shit.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I'm gonna grind his underground scene. He would have been somebody we consider, yo, this guy is super lyrical. But CJ had no image, but I feel like Gorilla has all the image in the world. Because it's like, when Chief Keep showed up in the rap game, he had that certain music video where it's like, yo, I'm with all my hood dudes where we're turning up, you've never seen that. And Gorilla has it for females where it's like, 20 girls, ratchet all up, ready to swing on anyone. A pregnant bitch in the video, too, bro.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yeah, that's, love it. But that's realistic. That's why I feel like she's very relatable in that sense. Yeah, all the time. And that's like the equivalent. Yeah, and they be actor-ractor. They'd be like that, yeah. Whereas CJ, literally, his song was a catchphrase of a gang that he wasn't a part of.
Starting point is 00:19:59 He had a bunch of people in the video that he had never met before posing as his hood. He had a red rag, although he's not a blood, like all that. He had a manager, too, that was part of vice. that was with 50 cent stuff that been in the industry. I think it was like his uncle or some shit. Yeah, he worked with Violator 50 cents management. And it's like he had a plug in the industry way before he even dropped the record. So it was easy for him to push.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Now that is an industry plant right there. Yeah. Glorilla doing her thing. Glorilla doing her thing. I love Glorilla. She ain't no gimmick. She ain't come in with no big and like, you know. You think she's going to have beef with a female?
Starting point is 00:20:37 Like the way female rabbit's been going. Oh, that's coming. Like she has to have a beef coming. I don't think so. I don't think nobody going to want to fuck with her. I agree. Nobody going to want to fuck with Gloria. We would have thought that with Cardi B.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Even Nikki Minaz. Nikki Maas, Nikki Maas's probably the number one person and the fact that Lado turned up on her, I feel like there's somebody that would touch the gorilla. Well, right now we're seeing this a time, like as far as Glorilla's concerned, from what I'm seeing,
Starting point is 00:21:00 I don't know what's going on internally, but it seems like everybody's genuinely happy for her and everybody genuinely like fuck with her. At a certain point, though, because when Nikki came in the game, there was no beef, and then at a certain point, boom. No, Nikki had people making videos about her
Starting point is 00:21:15 saying that she used to be a dude, that she was in a relationship with a girl. That's a film. But like weird little internet rumors. Yeah, people felt like she was too gimmicky. They had the shit where they were saying that she was copying every single little Kim photo and stuff. Like, hire Remy Ma.
Starting point is 00:21:34 But that's all after her initial assent to power. Like when she first came out with like, uh, itty-bitty piggy. higher than a kite or whatever, all like her initial signs. I remember getting bash for loving that music. That shit was hard. And her warning B-I-G remix, all that people were just like, yo, this bitch is dope.
Starting point is 00:21:54 She's a spitter. There was a girl who came out and she did like a, I forget what the girl name was, but I remember it was on MySpace. And it was a girl and she was rapping like her, like trying to be, you know, like copy the whole little. And, you know, the way that she rapped back then. or whatever. But I remember beef. Yeah, but there wasn't anything
Starting point is 00:22:14 on the scale that was actual other industry rappers until Kim. And then after that, it's been up for Nikki ever since. And really, a lot of it because with Kim, she refused to pay homage. Like, she was swaggerjacking super tough, but not actually acknowledging the source. And then she was like doing all, all you bitches are my sons
Starting point is 00:22:35 and that whole narrative. So of course, everyone's going to try to get at you at that point. Nah, but Nikki, like, at this point, though, I think Kim, like Kim, right, you know, like, said something similar, right? Like, about Nikki, right? But Nikki, I feel like why, you know, like she surpassed everybody, bro, was like, again, like, let's say Kim, right? Bro, like, Kim was not, if you put a young, like, Kim right now in 2022, like, she wouldn't be, like, a top five or even, like, top 10 female rapper, you feel me? As far as what? Just bars.
Starting point is 00:23:09 But Biggie's ran her stuff, so that I don't know. No, no. Like, Kim was a way more competent rapper than most of these bitches, bro. Biggie was running her lyrics, too, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, all these girls have writers. Yeah, but like, everybody don't got Biggie. Glow, exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Glorilla has writers, you know what I mean? Like none of these. Wait, hold up, Glorilla got writers? Yeah, the dude that produced her track. Hit Kid. Yeah. Wait, oh, wait, hold up now, bro. Now, I don't know that.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Yes. And if that's true, then we gotta disqualify. disqualify her from that conversation. No, no, no. Guy himself gonna have to come down here and show her writers. Yeah, hold him now, bro. She acknowledged that she had writers. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:23:47 She didn't deny that. She didn't deny that. I didn't see her race on there, like, she's like, yo, I rate all my shit. So she was, she's trying to portray like she writes lower her shit. So when did she say, when did she acknowledge she got writers? I saw a clip of her, um, in response to that, what's the dude's name, the producer? Hick kid. Yeah, Hick, who's really dope, producer.
Starting point is 00:24:06 That produced FNF and all that. and she was talking about the session and how she had writers in that session. Now, I'll be real. I heard her old stuff and she was still rapping to spin in the same cadence and she was actually dope as hell.
Starting point is 00:24:22 So if she got writers, though, that she has to be disqualified from the Nicky Minaj conversation. Bro, but like if you look at, and I don't want to put women on a different level and I hate, like, gender bias in conversations, but literally almost all of the, the greatest female rappers of all time have had writers.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Lauren Hill had Wyclef, Young Z, and Pace 1 as her writers for years. And she's considered the greatest of all time. I did not know that. I didn't know that. Queen Latifah had writers for her entire career. I'm not even going to, I don't even want to say some of the other names because it's going to stir up some controversy. Let's talk about the women who didn't have writers.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Rod Diga didn't have writers. Nikki. Nikki has had writers. her entire fucking career. Safari. Safari was writing for her. Listen,
Starting point is 00:25:14 she denied all that shit. And to be real, bro, Safari pen ain't on Nikki's love. You know, y'all see what? Y'all saw a lot of now when they was like,
Starting point is 00:25:23 well, how come he can't write his own? Nah, dude. But Safari pen ain't fucking with on Nicki but not his pen right now. I'm talking about just bar. Bro, she's had writers
Starting point is 00:25:32 her entire career. Man. But are we talking about when Safari, the shit that Safari be rapping, he sound like a bitch. Exactly. Like he sounds,
Starting point is 00:25:40 the Safari's bars sound like if a girl said him that they would be fired in a motherfucker. I'm not, look, Flacco, I'm not saying that Nikki hasn't written her own bars. I'm saying she's had writers her entire career. I don't believe,
Starting point is 00:25:52 but are we talking about writers for like the hooks? I'm talking about writing for the hooks or the bars because I feel like a lot of people got writers for hooks. A lot of people got writers for their bars too. And it's, look, this isn't mutually exclusive to women. A lot of your favorite male rappers have had assistance
Starting point is 00:26:04 with the bars as well. I've been in writing camps for a lot of major, Three women, though. It's three women that I know for show don't got writers. I'm right now. She, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she's hard. Lady London. No.
Starting point is 00:26:22 She's hard. Lady London is hard. Her too, but then this chick that I believe, bro, is top three pen game is crazy. Maddie. Dreezy. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Greasy is fire. Greasy is fire. Greasy is fire. Greasy is crazy. I was about to say, I was about to. I didn't know. I didn't know. I always use her as an example when they talk about who's like the hardest female
Starting point is 00:26:45 rapper. Dreezy's killing all these hoes. Let's be honest. No, no, no. She's top three if not top two, right? Because to me is Nigman Nage and then Dreasy. You see her hit girl with a hit boy album? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Yeah. Five, girl. The thing is, uh, Dreezy's actually been a writer for a lot of other artists. I believe. And that's the reason why she hasn't gotten as big as she could. Because she's cute as fuck. She rap. Ha la.
Starting point is 00:27:07 She rap her fucking. She's dark. She's, I don't know. Be real here, bro. Nigger, she's bad as fuck, God ass, thick as fuck, can rap, got the songs, bro, got some something fucking Gucci that's like 20, 50 million views. And she's not as big right now, because let's be real, man. You gotta be consistent though, because I feel like she had it when she dropped a body
Starting point is 00:27:25 with Jeremiah and she had a song with Gucci Man, but like, somebody like that, they gotta just keep dropping, dropping. She took too much time where I feel like it made her fall off in a sense, but her music is still there, but like, she got hooks. She can sing. Like, she's, she checks all the boxes. So look, because this is from Chicago.
Starting point is 00:27:43 This topic was actually at the bottom of the list. So while we already own it, who's the top female rapper in 2022? Oh, listen, man, that's not even close. It's Nicky and notch, man. Like, I feel like right now, like we haven't seen. Again, now who's the, I guess, the hottest in terms of most emerging artist is Glorilla for show. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:28:02 Right. Like, the buzz around her right now is not even close. but who can drop, let's say, an album right now and sell the most or, like, chart the highest like that, it's like Nickman. But then why did Cardi... No, it's not. It's Cardi B.
Starting point is 00:28:14 why did Cardi literally shatter... Cardi literally shattered all of Nicky's entire sales records for the year. Look it up. Men lie, women lie, you know the rest. Cardi beat destroyed Nicky's numbers this year. And the fact that Cardi still could be up for one album five years ago. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Cardi's still hot to this day off of one album.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I think, like, the world is dead. anticipating that second Cardi B album. And I truly think when her or Travis Scott drop, their next album is going to, like, Cardi B's next album is going to be bigger than Nicky Minna. And I rock with Nick. To be honest, I love Nikki, you feel me? But she is not even in the conversation right now.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I wouldn't say all that. She's not in the conversation. Wait, wait, wait. There's several female rappers that are way, have way more traction, have way more conversation around them, and are way more relevant. This year?
Starting point is 00:29:05 This year. Because she dropped the record with Fabio For him that was crazy in New York. That was a big record. In New York. And she had the little baby record. Freakie girl, though, just went like what? Number one. Yeah, come on.
Starting point is 00:29:14 It's her brink. It's a sense of icon. She sees an icon where her iconic status is going to propel her, no matter what. And despite all that, Cardi destroyed her sales. I agree. If Cardi's last album sales was five years ago. I'm not talking about her album sales. I'm talking about the records that she was on.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Her streams. Wobb was the bigger record than any record. That's last. year, but still. How not? Whop? How no. That was, Wop's a bigger record than anything that Mickey has done in years.
Starting point is 00:29:43 No, no, no, no, that's like 21, 2020. 2020. 2020. What record Nikki Miles got bigger than Wop? In the past several years. That's two years ago. Cardi B right now in 2022. Let's be real.
Starting point is 00:29:55 She probably hops on other niggins. Again, the last Cardi B saw flop. It did. It did. With Kanye and Loder. That's it flop. But what's flop, though, because it went gold. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:03 To her stand, it's a flop. Right. To everybody else, because I feel you, it didn't touch culture. That wasn't a cultural record at all. Bro, wait, wait, wait, what did it chart? It charted like 40. So that's why a lot of people can't chart 40. That's not a lot.
Starting point is 00:30:18 To Cardi B status, I feel you. Party charted top 40 in 2020, Nick Minaj went. Number one. But she charted multiple times, though. Her sales are killing Nicky's this year. Look it up. But what about features, though? If you hop, if Cardi B hops on your feature or Nikki Minas hopped on your feature,
Starting point is 00:30:35 Cardi B officially passes Nicky Menage to become Yep All right. Over one album One album! Most certified female rapper ever.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Wait, wait, wait. For one album. Wait, wait. Scroll down, again, it's just like some five years ago, shit. No, dog. This is passing Nikki's accolades since 2007.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Nicky's got a Grammy. Cardi B got a Grammy. Furn, come on, bro, let's be real hair, bro. Look, Nikki is, Nicky is probably, no, Nikki's probably the female goat. She is. She is.
Starting point is 00:31:06 But she's not more relevant than Cardi right now. In fact, she's not more relevant than Cardi, then Lotto, than City Girl. You're talking about. No, no, no. Lotto, she's way bigger than Lotto. We're not going to do that. I have one record. And she's hiding down south, but overall, if you go to New York, no one's checking for Lado.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Less relevant. Less relevant. Listen, bro. New York is a tricky region though. Well, LA, I don't know L.A. I don't know Lada like that. She was a lot of Lato. Yeah, lot of was popping.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Okay. Bro, she's hot. Bro, Nick Minaj just with number one, bro. Right? So at this point in time, in 2022, again, Cardi album from five years ago, Watt from two years ago is cool. But right now at 2022, bro, Nikki Minaj right now is more relevant in terms of music. Now, Cardi's after the tomorrow two shit, but that's Gorilla record.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Not Cardi's record. But, no, no, no. The only way, I can give you that, Gorilla, drop that record a month way before Cardi even hopped on it and didn't do anything until Cardi B hopped on it. Look, we can't say that. There's a remix. That's something been out, so you can't say that. McCarty made that record go big.
Starting point is 00:32:10 And she diss Nikki on it too, where she was like, you get cut up a credit for a remix now? That's what we're doing? Yes. Little Wayne. He got hot. Little Wayne, before he hit the car to three, he had a bunch of features that rappers, if you're smart, you go on a bunch of features, you body it, then you
Starting point is 00:32:24 propel your next project. And don't forget when Nikki did boss-ass bitch, she got them girls a record deal, so that shit counts. And, and Nikki's first several hit records were on the strength of the, features. Her being on five, her being on five star chick. Freaky girl by Gucci Maine. Like all those records were. Big Sean ass, ass, ass, ass. Yeah. So that's her whole ascendance was based on her being on features, bro. And not her records. I definitely agree. But if we're talking about like in
Starting point is 00:32:55 terms of like a legacy play or just who's currently like the high over right now. No, no, no, no. Here, right. Just, just who's more hotter and relevant right now, bro. Come on, man. Like if Nick Menyj just had a number one one song in the country, right? She was just on the, on the, on the, on the, uh, doja cash shit, too. That was number one, like last year. Say so. That was a huge record, huge record. Nikki Minaj got gray hairs in her pussy.
Starting point is 00:33:21 This shit is fucking not even a conversation, bro. So while we're talking about relevancy, um, 21 Savage was just on Clubhouse. And he said, Nyes is not relevant. What do y'all thoughts on that? Is Nas relevant in 2022? Here, so I'm going to start, right? So let's just first talk about like King Disease 2, right? Now, two or three?
Starting point is 00:33:41 No, no two, like for last year, right? So last year, not so I believe 56,000 copies first week, he won a Grammy for best rap album. Oh, he won it? Yeah, right? So it'll be tough for me to say he's irrelevant if last year he just did that. However, I'm not going to go as irrelevant. I'm going to go as it's currently unknown. until we find out what King of Zies 3.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Because again, we've seen the baby being hot one year and then nine months later, he's selling 19,000 copies first week. Right? So we know that's possible. You can go from being the hottest nigga on earth a year ago and being irrelevant the next year, right? So King of Z's 3. Now, Kenaziz 3, if you look up its potential numbers,
Starting point is 00:34:29 it's like undefined on one source, another source saying it's projected, under 20,000, right? So Kennedy's three right now is looking like it's by the flop. It's setting up for probably one of the biggest flops we've seen yet, right? So if Keynes these three flops,
Starting point is 00:34:45 then I'll probably have to say the nigger is probably irrelevant as of now. However, it's unknown because he did win a Grammy and sold 56,000 copies first week last year. Wait, before you go in on him. I just want to say shout out to Nas because he shouted Draco out on the album.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Thank you. Much appreciated. We, you know, the whole city fuck with that. Thank you. I got to, you're from New York, right? What are your thoughts on Nas? No, to me, Nause is definitely relevant because we got to speak on like,
Starting point is 00:35:15 he's relevant? He's relevant. Because, like, if you're basing on numbers, I think he's going to do over like $33,000 and would we all agree, do you guys consider Fabio foreign relevant? Yes, right, but wait. He sold $30,000 first week.
Starting point is 00:35:29 If we're going by, because my own thing is numbers over narratives. No, no, no, no. So, like, I'm saying no, yes, right? But I don't think Nas is going to do 33K with this album. I think he is based on everyone's talk. 21 made it where everyone wants to even go listen to that Nas album now. So I think the sales are going to boost to it.
Starting point is 00:35:48 So I do think it's going to go over 30. But, like, that's what I'm saying. If we're basing relevancy on numbers, where are we basing it? Because, like, do you guys consider DDG relevant? Yes. To music? Yeah, DDG. Now, I'll be real with you, dog.
Starting point is 00:36:03 In terms of hip hop and music, he's probably, like, irrelevant. He has a hit record. What? The one with Blueface. When? Like. I'm saying he's had a head record. That's like two years ago, right?
Starting point is 00:36:14 It's like, yeah. It was a minute ago. Bro, listen, like, okay, so like, again, like, um, Quorae. Sort of about like what. It's 15. 15K first week. She's relevant? Corla Ray is relevant.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Right now in 2022? She's on a downward trend. Shit. I ain't hit our Quora Raine in like a year since you see. Because ice spice. So here's the thing. Here's the thing. You fucking messy.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Yo, I love you some fucking Ice Spice, man. My Nigerian Najat Queen. No, I am, I love Ice Spice. She's like, I like her music too. I don't even, I know I'm in the minority on that. Like, she got some bops. I'm obsessed with her. But.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Did y'all listen to the album? Ice spices? She jumped off. No, Naz. Oh, yeah. So. Okay, the album is phenomenal from a... Oh, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:37:06 But, look, I understand why 21 Savage would say that Nas is irrelevant because to his generation, he's unaware of the impact that Nas has. And even though so many things like, you know, Nas' song from his second album, it was written that the song, the message, was sampled by Juice World than was Juice World's first hit record.
Starting point is 00:37:33 You know what I mean? Like, it's the same sample. So a lot of the influence that Nas has is still felt, but a lot of these kids aren't necessarily aware of it. So I can understand why 21 Savage would make that statement. But you really can't say he's irrelevant because if you're looking at the overall scale of the culture, Nas is able to sell out large venues,
Starting point is 00:37:53 city to city, state to state, off the strength of not only this album, but his entire catalog. Him and Wu Tang and Buston, just literally sold out venues across the country and actually have dope performances and are putting numbers on the board. Look at his monthly listeners on Spotify. You can't say he's irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:38:13 At the end of the day, it's a different contingent. You're talking about adult contemporary boom bap hip hop. So for the people that are over 30 years old, he's more relevant. And people like 21 Savage aren't relevant if it wasn't for that Drake collab. But for people of a certain age demographic, he's not. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:36 Nah, brother. Hip hop has been a rough. Hip hop has this whole problem with ageism and people looking down on old heads. And who fault is that, though? It's, I'm not saying that it's not the previous generation's fault for not instilling that in them. I'm not holding this generation accountable. And I understand.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Look, I'm not one of those people that like Lil Yadi and Lil Zan not liking Pock. I understand. Now, I feel like the way that they came out with it with the abrasive language. It's not popular, right? Hey, bro. So look, so like the rock stars, right? Again, just for any other genre besides hip hop, those rock stars, those like Army artists, yo, like they would embrace.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I'm talking about they would embrace and ride hard for the younger generation, right, in those genres. But the hip hop niggas, man, listen, man, these niggas getting 80,000 a show. They cracked out, broke, and hating, right? So, like, that's why the younger generation don't really. really fuck with that generation, bro, because they just a bunch of hating-ass niggas who hate to see the low-niggas shunning
Starting point is 00:39:36 because they feel like that form of art is lesser than to what they were producing. And there's a lot of truth to that. I agree. And then you got guys like Nas who are shouting out Draco that kind of like basically refute that theory in a nutshell right there. So, like, it's all generalizations. But to make a statement like, Nause is irrelevant. Like, it's absolutely not true.
Starting point is 00:39:57 It's blasphemous in fact, like, you know what I mean? It's not blasphemous. Like it's currently unknown because again, we cannot use, let's say, like somebody selling our venues because again, like we've seen like these like, like, for example, like the roots, right? You know, like they can sell out, you know, like a huge venue or, you know, something like really old, like 80 artists. Like they can sell out some crazy venue at some like stadium or, what 80s artists can sell
Starting point is 00:40:18 out a venue right now? Nah, you two. I'm talking about what rap. A rapper. A rapper, L.O. Cool J because he does rock the bell's festival in New York. L.L. Cool J. literally, what did you just say? Rock the Bell's Festival. That is his.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Which it is his, but guess how many other artists are on that with him? That's not just L.L. Cool J. Yeah, that's a bunch of 80s are all. Yeah, listen. I'm sure Wyclef is not an 80s artist, first of all. That's a 90s artist. And Wyclef is definitely not selling out venues. Bro, wait, wait, bro, wait, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:47 He's not. Wait, wait, wait, wait, right? But that's a 90s group. But my whole thing. It's actually my point, right, but they're still irrelevant currently. Sorry, go ahead. Because my whole thing, I feel like we got to change the word irrelevancy, because back in the 90s and
Starting point is 00:40:59 80s, it made more sense because the amount of music that was coming out. We're in 2022 where it's a fluctuation of so much music, so much content coming out, where I might not know something at all, but that doesn't mean it's not relevant. It's too much music going out where for you to know everything that's current. Like, I think it's literally impossible for the human mind to comprehend all the type of music that's coming out. So like in the East Coast, where I'm from province around New York and stuff, the younger kids from that area do rock with Nostil and stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:28 21's from Atlanta. So I get why. Atlanta artists, there's certain artists from your region that no matter what you're going to always rock with them. Like I feel like the West Coast you got certain artists like E-40s or certain people. Like 21 Savage would never say that about Outcast. Yeah, he wouldn't because it's from down south where he's from. But I think it's too much music.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Because even like all these rappers that are dying, some people would be like, yeah, I don't know half the rappers that are dying because there's so much content coming out. So relevancy has to change because we can't keep everything like just because you don't know something doesn't mean it's not relevant. Just because I don't know something, it's too much information going on because dude's selling out a bunch of arenas, selling out things, and you have no clue about it. There's a lot of young artists that you have no clue about, but there's a lot of younger people that because of streaming services are connected to the two parks. They actually listen to a lot of this new music. We're just not having these conversations.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Right. But that's why it's not fair to me that at a certain point, you get, when has an era agree with the area before them or the era after them? And there's usually a response to the era before then. Yeah, it's either the, it's either the generations before, whatever is current, we'll say, oh, that music is trash, y'all just putting out anything now. And then the current era would be like, that shit old or, you know, whatever, y'all old heads and stuff. So us keep equating relevancy to age is just a fucking flaw because I don't wear Team Jordans.
Starting point is 00:42:50 So they're irrelevant to me. But for whatever reason, Jordan keep making them. Somebody buying them. Somebody buying them. Somebody's keeping sketches open. Somebody is still going to Burger King. Like, it's a group who fucks with this. So we can't say like, oh, well, Nause is irrelevant because A, B and C, but he got a Grammy.
Starting point is 00:43:06 He's selling our shows. Well, and let me ask that's a good point. Last year, though. And he might sound morning gorilla. That's a, that's a thing too. That's what I was going to say. Yeah. Flacco, like, real talk.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Sure. Is DaBaby relevant right now? Right now? Yeah, I'll be real with you, dog. Like, my nigga probably got one more chance. You feel me? Because Nause is selling out venues that he's getting canceled in. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Again, though, and here's why, like, that's not, like, a great, like, judge, right? Because, again, if, like, fucking Alcats wanted to do, like, a festival right now, right? Or, you know, like, do a show. And he can, like, they can sell out stadiums. But in terms of to the discussion of mainstream music currently, they're not relevant. They're in the fucking backthought of our fucking minds due to them not drop. And, you know, and like, who knows? If they were to kept consistent, who knows?
Starting point is 00:44:00 Like, maybe, you know, like, we would have probably said, you know what, but, like, we're not interested, right? So we can't really use the stadium thing because, you know, but that's a good point. But Nas has stayed in the conversation. Of course. He's put out records on a yearly basis. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:14 Of course. So it's like, at the end of the day, I understand why people would say that. And is he moving the needle as far as what's current and what's really popping like that? No, but he's still as far as the critics are concerned, as far as people of a certain demographic. Who is moving, like, realistically, who in rap is truly moving the culture? It's not really, it's too big of a culture like. But really, you could say, like, certain things like Bronx Real Music, Detroit Rap, you know what I mean? Like Memphis, like there's certain movements right now that are moving the needle of the culture.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Let's be honest, 2022 is the year of the thoughts. Every single year in hip-hop history, there's a certain, there's a certain, there's a certain, certain swag, a certain moment, a certain artist that captures the attention. Like the way, think about this, like the way when ASAP Rocky came out in 2011, 2012, like that movement, everyone, like the impact that that made. Every dark-skinned nigga, but there's nothing like that, there's nothing similar to that impact though. Right now, the biggest impact is females.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Yeah, like it's the year of the females. It's a year of Glorilla, Lotto, Ice Vice, Thought right. Like, you know, Cardi. And that's why I said all them are more relevant than Nikki right now. However, however, they're all like little baby pigs nursing on fucking Nikki's teets. You feel me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I feel like a lot of things that's current too is blackboard because like Bronx drill, like Didi Osama, his music videos, he drops a music video. He's getting two, three million views each music video. He's dropping a music video every week where certain artists like the guerrillas and stuff are not getting those type of views. She's putting numbers up. She's putting numbers. But the D.D.O. Osama numbers. But the only reason why you can say he's black boy, he's talking about, you know, I'm smoking on this dude.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I'm smoking. So I think a lot of, it's so disrespectful of rap is that certain people that are moving are not going to get to those certain levels because their music is, just can't go through that door. Well, a thousand percent. And even look at Young Boy. I always talk about Young Boy, and we've had discussions on this show about Young Boys' Relevance and Young Boys putting out videos that get 50 million, 100 million views.
Starting point is 00:46:23 he's able to literally sell 30, 40,000 units announcing... I'm just dropping tomorrow. Right, you know what I mean? But exactly so. And like, but if you look like over the years, there's the whole ASAP movement and then like shortly after that cloud rap
Starting point is 00:46:38 and then SoundCloud was birthed from that, like the whole SoundCloud rap movement. And then like, and even before then it was like trap music like really rose of prominence on a much larger level. And like there's a lot of, and drill music, you know what I mean? Like Chicago drill, when it first came, out. But all these different movements, they have a certain edginess that kind of makes it so as difficult for them to shine in a mainstream context until years later when it gets homogenized
Starting point is 00:47:06 and watered down. Like you were talking about that 5-0-4 in record, you know what I mean? And even 5-0 being on Donda previous to that, that's years after Brooklyn drill was making waves and shit, but it took like a really poppy, homogenized example of it for it to resonate with the masses, right? Not, no, no. It's a picking. How no. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:47:29 No, no, no, right. So, like, five or four and, you know, like, it's just the natural evolution. Right. For example, right, like, we've seen, seen like people like, let's say, like, Pushaisty, right? Who was, you know, talking about the same shit just as edgy, right? But it's just the natural evolution of, yo, I'm starting off here. And eventually, right, you know, by dropping hits, right? right so for five or four it's just yo bro ain't half the hits you know but you know what it's it's
Starting point is 00:47:54 not just about the content is the way it's presented i think about this dude think about this and like i'm gonna get historical about it of course but we'll just use like a newer example to start chicago joe sure sure but what i was thinking about was a pull up with a stick let it hit like that was a hit record because it sounded so sweet and sublime it was like this happy sounding record, but he's talking about some real grimy shit. Now, let's... Nelly did that from Crunchy Grammar, too, bro. The street sweeper.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yo, exactly perfect example. I look for that shit again. Bro, that nigga was taught my drive-bys in a fucking. Yes, yes. I never knew that, though. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Let's look at music history, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Ice-T made cop killer and got blackballed because it was how blatant and how, you know, obvious it was what he was saying. Fuck the police by NWA. Same thing. Look back. So, Cop Killer is essentially the same exact record as what? as Bob Marley, I shot the sheriff. He's a cop killer.
Starting point is 00:48:52 He shot the sheriff, but he didn't shoot the deputy, but he swear it wasn't self-defense. But because of the way the record sounds and it's presented, it's able to get a pass and become a mainstream hit. That's a good point. So tell me this. Acton 21 had a little back and forth because Act said that 21 was not the biggest artist
Starting point is 00:49:12 and over a number of people, including Little Baby. 21 feeling himself right now, huh? I ain't mad, but Bro, listen, he's feeling himself. Bro, 21 is my guy. I love him, bro, but like, again, like, 21 is not on drugs, so I'm not going to disrespect him by saying he's smoking at bath salt, bro. But he's smoking something, dog.
Starting point is 00:49:32 He is off that good, 1987, South Central L.A., bass rock cavi, if he think he's a number one artist right now. Bro, like, yo, it's past that because, like, by every metric you want to use, bro, like, low baby is better. More Instagram, followers. 132 songs on billboards compared to 21 Savage, 60 songs on Billboard, right? 13 top 10 hits to 21 Savage, six top 10 hits, right?
Starting point is 00:49:59 So, like, by every metric you want to use, I'm talking about album sales. Baby sold $212, 27, so... 197 lines. Yeah, right? So, like, by every metric you want to use to determine who's the bigger artist, low baby outperforms 21 Savage. Now, I hope my brother 21 Savage ain't doing the cool shit by trying to the cow post Malone rock star as his song my nigga.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Dang your shit, bro. That's the white man shit, my nigga. Although he did add something to do it, you're right. I'm the biggest 21 Savage fan and I don't agree with you guys at all. Like 21 Savage needs to get his respect because 21 Savage to me is equivalent to the Kendrick Lamar and Drake conversation. Nick, you crazy. Drake drops so much content.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Y'all like him, but Kendrick will drop three or four albums and then you guys would be like, oh, he's comparable. 21 Savage body of work is done. definitely better than little babies. Like, if it's on my albums. We're not talking about better. Platter. Who's bigger?
Starting point is 00:50:53 Even bigger, though. Even bigger, though. He's the only rapper to go platinum with no features. So what? What you mean? So what? You know how hard that is? That's not even true.
Starting point is 00:51:02 That is. Jake. No, I said in the SoundCloud era. He said his generation. He's not calling Jake Cole. Okay, okay. His generation. But Jake Cole is, you're right.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Yeah, because that literally happened like two years before. But I'm talking about the 21, the Oozies. The 2016 and up class. Okay, sure. That's a freshman class. So Cole, Jay. Because I think Forrest Hills Drive was, what, 2015? 2014.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah, so it's right before then. If Uzi Verk is our performer 21 Saturday. And what? In what? In what? Life. Album sales and he passed them, you feel like me, right? Uzi saw like what, like 205.
Starting point is 00:51:36 He saw $2,300 and then he sold $2.35 the next week. But it was, he was the first person. The album don't count because he was the first person to actually drop a deluxe album. That was before anyone did deluxe album. the deluxe. So that's why that album went so crazy. That plays to it. Now, now, let me ask you this. Drake puts, let's say it was Lil Baby and Drake that dropped this record and not 21. You think it's doing four hundred and four thousand? Yeah, I don't know. I think it's, I think it's a music sounds like that. How I don't know. I think it's doing. Wait, wait, Rob, you think it's
Starting point is 00:52:07 going to do less or more? Yes, it's going to do less. I think it's the music. Yo, yeah, yeah, yo, you got to care this. Hold on, hold on. Yo, bro, little baby drops, little baby drops, uh, The last album, it's only me, sells 200. But the project of Little Baby getting there, he was on mad features, he was on mad albums. When 21 Savage dropped Savage Mode 2, that sold to 197. All he said was, yo, I'm dropping an album two weeks from now. Little Baby had two years of being, he's the number one promotion. Savage don't need that.
Starting point is 00:52:37 He don't need that. Naga, we've seen Baby Carrey dirt to 150K first week with a joint album. Again, though. What about 21 in offset? Both, he did the same thing were offset Without a one and that's a way better Joint album than Little Baby and Lil Dirk. That's all the other baby and Lil Dirk was something like what?
Starting point is 00:52:54 Like, fucking like, what, like, what, like 30, 40K? Hold on, hold on. That's Drake hype though. You're talking down on Dirk a little too much. I fuck with Dirk. And that ever the Dirk was doing like, well, like 40K first week. You're too obsessed with album sales as a metric though. That's not the only metric for someone's relevance.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Now let me ask you another question, Rob, all right? If 21 didn't just put out this album with Drake now, is this even a conversation? No. You are right. But my whole thing is if he's dropping... But remember, he dropped the album with, what's the dude's name, Morgan Freeman, narrating his whole album. Great project. If you talk about that.
Starting point is 00:53:37 No, no, no, no. God was narrating that album. Yeah. Thank you. That was God. Thank you. The thing is 21 Savage is quantity over quality. He was even saying that he's like, yo, I'm a partner.
Starting point is 00:53:48 So put it like this, a lot of these rappers, when he dropped mad music, they're dropping it because, A, they're trying to make money, cater to their contract. Little Baby's contract with QC is nothing compared to 21 Savage. Tony Savage has a contract where he's partnered up with his label. So he doesn't have to drop 100 albums because he's making the money from it. He doesn't even go on tour like that because he has, he's one of the only rapists that has a 50-50 joint venture. So the money he makes from his albums is way more equivalent. So he has a 50% from that album and Little Baby has 20%.
Starting point is 00:54:21 If the little baby has a job like three, four albums to keep up to his one album when he's making money on. You're just talking about the strength of his paperwork. No, but I'm saying quantity of music because at the end of day, you might not want to put out so much because you don't, you might not want to put out so much because it might not be at the higher quality. So what he's saying, everything I'm saying 21 acts and said is. I'll say, I'll echo your sentiments and I'll just say, I prefer 21 Savage any day of the week to Lil Baby. Like, I prefer him as an artist.
Starting point is 00:54:50 No, I prefer, I like 21 better than Lil Baby. Why? Nah, bro. He's a, no heart. Bro, are you? To me, to me, I just, like, his, is, um, my favorite little baby was the 2017 run that him and gonna have, where it was like sold out dates with him and gonna. Okay with him, uh, with Thug and, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:55:10 Him, like those records. That was like the, that was the shit that I like. liked the most by Lil Baby. I'm not a fan of his more recent output, although I do think he's killing it. Like, from a mainstream level, once you take Drake and Travis Scott and maybe Kendrick and Cole out of the conversation,
Starting point is 00:55:31 Little Baby is the biggest artist currently in the world. And I always argue 21 would be there for me. Yeah, but he's at your heart. He's not. Bro, he tricked Rob. Listen, bro, 21 Savage tricked this nigga, right? Because Twin Hoc Savage has hopped on other niggas hit records, got these massive top 10 hits,
Starting point is 00:55:49 and got you niggas thinking, yo, oh, oh, shit, I'm a big artist. Nigger you're not thinking, 21 Savage has six top 10 records. Four of those are from other niggas shit, right? So what's 21 Savage done for you to think this nigga is a top of artist? Where's the Grammys? What?
Starting point is 00:56:05 From 2016 class, who got a Grammy? I think 21, right? Yeah. So a lot with Jay Cole. You got to think about it. The top artist. from Jay Cole. Who did he go on to him? Who did he cater to? Twenty one Savage, Drake. Drake way, they have a record together too. No, no, that's what I'm saying, why did he pick
Starting point is 00:56:22 to do a record? He's a master. I'm 2016. Because, because 21 Savage from that class, from that class is a very competent artist. Like, yeah, like, that's what I'm saying. It's not just, not necessarily just his metrics. He's nice. He's, and that's what I'm saying compared to the little baby because Jay Cole has these records with, he has a record with Little Baby. I think it was of his last album. The record he did with Tony Savage, this is the first time. Actually,
Starting point is 00:56:47 J-Col, 21 Savage got J-Col his first Grammy, bro. Lil Baby. You all think about that. Little Baby is successful based on the strength of his voice more than anything. Let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:56:57 It's not his lyrics. It's his voice. It's his image. It's like, you can even, I'll even say his flow if I'm being generous. It's not like because he's his lyrical mastermind.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Of course. But 21 has that thing that a lot of rappers have where it's like Snoop dog has Dr. Dre, Drake has 40. Metro, I mean, 21 has Metro. That's what I'm like, you ought to put that into consideration. Metro, the last album, Savage Moot, too, that's what I really like that album.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Me too. Metro did majority of that project. That type of artists, we don't have those. And I think the top artists could pick out and be like, yo, Drake is, this year, you could say when he dropped that dance on, everybody's like, yo, Drake, I don't know. Who's the other than future? Drake picked 21 out of it. He could have picked anyone in the world to do a joint album with.
Starting point is 00:57:43 He picked 21 because the quantity and the quality of his projects and his fan base. And I feel like comparable to the little baby, little baby's more hot than he has a core following. Where I feel like 21 is hot and he has a core. I was bigger though. If 21, I mean, little baby's bigger. But I mean, no, today, after that album 21 is bigger. Hell no. No, you're tripping, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:06 It's not his shit. It is. It is. Master Networker, we get it, brother. Listen, he knows how to work rooms. Okay, cool. That comes to you. Because this nigga right here is a master networker
Starting point is 00:58:17 that now he is somehow bigger a little baby. His master networking got him a whole. His master networking got him a whole project arguably the greatest artist of rap of all time. That's weight, bro. That's wait. Go ahead. Lush.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Hey, right, lush. With 21 or without 21, do you think that Drake would have done 400K on his own. Yes. Come on. No. No.
Starting point is 00:58:42 When I was 21 Savage, he was not doing $400,000. Yes. He was proud, bro. With me, with me, wait, wait, oh no,
Starting point is 00:58:49 solo, I thought you meant for you picked anyone. No, Drake solo. Oh, yeah, I thought you meant if he picked anyone else to do a joint album with.
Starting point is 00:58:55 He could have done that album with Black Boy J.B and still would have done numbers, bro. No. No. Yes. Look, look.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Drake and Little Baby, if it had the same rollout would have done more numbers. Absolutely. Drake and Dirk would have done more numbers. on GP. Now, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:59:11 So music leader, you feel like it would have hit, though. That's a different conversation. Now, let's keep that, though. That's a different conversation. I think that. If 21 was not a big artist or it was not quality enough, do we think Drake would be tapping into his formula or anything like that? 21 has to have some sort of quality and be great in what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Absolutely. For Drake to tap in with him and with the producer. And that's true, but I'll say this, I just realized, I had an epiphany and realize how much I would love a Drake and Lil' Dirk project. That just dawned on me right now. I feel like musically, that could have been equal or a lot better. But that would have been Drake helping out Little Dirk too much. He just, I mean, he didn't do that with 20.
Starting point is 00:59:49 He didn't help out 21. 21 didn't need that. Everything I loved 21 didn't need that. So where would we be having this conversation if heart loss came out? We wouldn't even be talking about this. No. But if 21 was dropping a solo album. No.
Starting point is 01:00:00 If he's dropping a solo album, though, I think we still would. Now we would, but look. So, if 21 would have did a joint project with somebody else, No, a solo album. No. If 21 and Young Nudy just did this project, bro, like Young Nudy, his cousin. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:15 No, no, no. It wouldn't have been. It probably would have hit, though. Yeah, it would have been the hit, though. I'd rather listen to that. Yeah, it would have hit, though, but. I'd rather listen to 21 in Nudy than 21 of Drake. But Flacco, so, so Axlist, what is he had, I'm assuming,
Starting point is 01:00:28 Kendrick, Cole, Drake, Travis. Of course. Little Baby. Okay, yeah, absolutely. How much did you say that? That's five, right? Right there. It was two more people.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Did he have, um, I, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma'am, um, No, Nicky Minas, I have been one of them. And Cardi? Cardi? I think Cardi might be. No, I think Nicky and he's seven. But I thought he was mad that he was seven and he thought that he should have been, okay. He was mad that little baby, it was, it was, he understood the people, but the only person
Starting point is 01:00:58 was little baby where he was like, yo, why do you, he kept as an act? He's getting asked, he's getting asked, like, why do you think little baby is bigger than me? Like, why do you think, he was like, yo, little baby made a thing? Am I tripping to think that Megan could outsell 21 Savage? No, you're crazy. He's crazy. He's crazy. He's crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Am I tripping? Really? Super crazy. Maybe on an album, but on a single? Yeah, I'm too big going to tell you what Savage's fit for this. But that's what I'm saying. See, you're, you're not. I know all his stats, though.
Starting point is 01:01:23 You're emotionally involved in this conversation. No, no, but I know his stats. I know, I'm based, this is facts over feelings because if you're talking about, Megan, so like, good news, so the hundred care. I'm saying records, but as opposed to albums. I'm saying singles. Savage with, um, uh, Beyonce. That was number one from Megan and was anything else.
Starting point is 01:01:43 And Wap was a feature, but rock star. Megan is, Megan is going to sell more to him if she dropped something right now. If they broke drop something on the same day. Today? Today, today, today, listen, today,
Starting point is 01:01:55 a single. Today while we're in the, the year of the woman, why it's all about women right now, she's going to sell more and she's a victim right now. She's going to be on every single headline. She's flound. flopped though. Like, yo, this is crazy. But she would sell more than 21 in this time.
Starting point is 01:02:11 There's her album single. Bro, there's, there's, this. What's the last, what's the last big hit solo single that 21's had? Solo, but we can't name them. You feel what? Exactly. So today, if they both drop something today. Was body a bigger single than any solo song besides a lot that 21's ever had?
Starting point is 01:02:31 Nope. Which one? Bank account. Bank account, yeah, yeah. No, that's what I meant, banking because a lot's one. No, you said a lot. That's what Jay Cole.
Starting point is 01:02:38 But Jay Cole, isn't Jay Cole on a lot? Yeah, but BankingCon was number eight. So I'm saying what solo single? No, Baker Kong solo. Banking is the only one. And that's what's from what year? That was 2017. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:51 And Body was 2021? But I compare, 2020. 21 to me is like a Jay Koto because you wouldn't say J. Cole got hit records. Like you know what I'm saying? No, he does have hit records. He does, but I, um, the last album. The last album. He has.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Name the hit off the last album. Side lines. No, no, no. Fuck. What was it called? No, like his last, I want to say count it up was probably his last, like, big hit record that he had. Count it probably. 2018.
Starting point is 01:03:19 You see, but you wouldn't say Jay Cole's winning something more than Megan. Oh. Because that's what I said that the core father. On a single? Listen, single wise. We're talking single. Bro, listen, the single wise, again. I'm just being realistic here, guys.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I'm not happy about it. A year or two years ago. Yeah, yeah. You can buy streams, though. Again, no, again, like, you could buy anything. Yeah, but, though, album sales is my metric to who can, quote, unquote, sell more. And 21 Savage, last episode, like, 170, 190. 97.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Maxo 66,000. No, I agree that if they both dropped an album, 21 would chart higher. Yeah. But on a single? Single. Yeah, I think that Megan. I gave you a single. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:57 I gave you, but that's what I'm saying, 21's an album artist. And I feel like a little... My turn was a fire album by Little Baby, so I'm not going to act. like a little baby don't go out. But I just feel like 21's really just an album artist. Man, free Gunna, bro. We need Gunna home. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 01:04:10 So speaking to that, seeing that, seeing that, seeing that, we see Young Thug and Gunna, you know, they still still in jail with the passing to take off and, you know, all this stuff is going on in Atlanta right now. Where do we see Atlanta music? Where is it headed? This is the saddest, yeah. This has to be the saddest, yeah. I feel like Atlanta's been on a downward trend for several years.
Starting point is 01:04:29 And it, it seemed like this DA is really on the mission to get all of them niggas up out of here. If Cardi goes, and then if low baby goes as expected, though, it's over with. But I also think right now is definitely trending towards the end. But like, what does the end even look like, though? Well, what's crazy is if you really look at it, if you really look at it, Atlanta's had a longer run at the top than any region in hip hop history. Absolutely. Like, New York didn't have total dominance for all those years.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Like, New York had dominance from, let's say hip hop started in 74, but it really like 79 was like the first hip hop record that was dropped that was you know actually charting and things like that rappers are light around that time right so from like let's say 79 to 91 that was the most 92 we'll say 92 but then when the chronic came out the west coast had a run for like four or five years you know four years and then after that the south started to pop Bob, New Orleans had a crazy run. New Orleans had a run after that. Like, 03 to 05 is like New York, though, right?
Starting point is 01:05:36 You could say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 03 to 05 is like New York. You could even say, oh, 1. You can even say 01 to 05, New York had another run. Because, JARU, JZ tour. Yeah, I'm saying like, well, that's right before then. That's like 2000. That's like 2000.
Starting point is 01:05:52 O1 is JZ the blueprint. That's Naz Stilmatic, you know what I mean? Ether, takeover. That's what I'm saying. That's camera, Jada. Kiss had a kiss the game goodbye. Cameron had a, well, is it, come home with me. Like, these are all huge records, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:06:09 But after 2005, Atlanta was running shit for a long-ass fucking time. Yeah, of course. But right now, though, I feel like, bro, I'll be real. With the passing of takeoff, I don't see Quavel, like, getting back to music anytime soon, bro. I feel like, I think Quayble probably going to take, like, a couple years off. Or, you know what, bro? like I was making music with my dog, my nephew, my right hand, he's going, man,
Starting point is 01:06:33 bro, fuck this music shit, bro, I'm done, right? So let's assume in the perfect world, what perfect world, in a world where Cuevo stopped making music, the Migos or, let's say, like, no more. You still got future? Yeah, right, but. Although he's hell of older now. Right. No, but if Cardi gets that RICO, if Loebabe, God forbid, gets the RICO, if that D.A.
Starting point is 01:06:55 if that DA continues to like target rapper bro with all this shit is going on right now that's happening in Atlanta bro with like the YSL niggas being locked up for 20, 30 years if Ysel is gone, baby is gone Cardi is gone, the Migos is gone like where do you see see like
Starting point is 01:07:14 if you really look at it they've been on a downward trend and I hate to say that because I'm a huge like Fila forever I love Atlanta. I love Atlanta music you know I've I honestly believe that Outcast is the greatest group in hip hop history. Like, I'll stand on that. And this is coming from a huge Mobb Deep, Wu-Tang fan, all that.
Starting point is 01:07:33 But Outcast, overall, greatness. They're the Beatles, as far as I'm concerned. Wait, Outcast? Yes. I feel like the Migos have more accolades, right? No, hell no. I mean, like... Nah, it doesn't like...
Starting point is 01:07:47 Alcast won album in the year at the Grammys, no. Album of the year... Yeah, cool, but in terms of, like, the records. Even sales, no. Ackalades, it's somewhat... Number one records, Andre D.000 got Hey, y'all was number one. Yeah, hey, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Speaker, but that's him individually, though. No, that's a joint album. It was a joint album. That's an outcast album. That's only the same. That's the only time. That's a joint album, a speaker box and love below. But regardless of that, like, I'm not even speaking on accolades.
Starting point is 01:08:13 I'm speaking from a creative standpoint. And just overall impact and influence on the culture. Because if it wasn't for Outcast, none of these groups in Atlanta would have even had a chance. Even in the Social Awards, It was a South got something to say. The South got something to say. But now, I'll be real, though.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Best New Artist 94, you feel me? But, no, but, bro, I feel like the Migos impacted the generation probably just as much, if not more, with the whole, their entire flow. Absolutely. They're stolen. They are all across. You mean, you mean, but that's the flow that they stole from Lord
Starting point is 01:08:43 Infamous and Three Six Mafia. Like, they literally took, I got, I got a head. The trip with flow, I'll pull up a video. Which one from Three Sixth, Lord Infamous? Lord Infamous. RIP, Lord Infamous, you know, I know the chat's probably going crazy and agreeing with me
Starting point is 01:08:56 when I say that. I got a hit, I never heard that. Lord Infamous, he's the inventor of the triplet flow. And when people say, like, the triplet flow, it's not what people think it is. Because we just say bone thugs. Right, that's a different,
Starting point is 01:09:09 they had a more melodic, less staccato, consistent flow that went all the way through. Having a double time cadence and stuff like that, that's different than the, ha-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. That's the Migos flow right there.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Of course. But even still the generation that they came up in, those kids, like a lot of people that's probably listening, don't know who these people are. So to them, the Migos pioneered that sound and south. Absolutely. But to say, like, I am going to speak up every time that that flow gets mentioned as being theirs because it's not an original flow.
Starting point is 01:09:42 And I'll, you know. They made it mainstream then. They made it mainstream. Absolutely. Here, kind of like this, right? So let's say. And to say that, And to say that those, that Migos didn't grow up listening to Three Six Mafia is preposterous.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Yeah. As a group, you definitely saw the group. I don't know that. You feel it? Bro. Down South? Bro. They probably did.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Three Six is a huge influence to this day, prevailing influence on so much shit to the point where a few years ago, there was multiple number one records. Sampled this. Simultaneously that sampled the same three-six song. Even a knife talk, sampled three-six mafia, though, Dr. Yeah, right. Not to mention. the entire, yeah, Project Pat
Starting point is 01:10:22 and all, not to mention the entire fucking SoundCloud generation, all those groups like suicide boys and shit that made a career off of sampling three six songs. Like their entire hooks, have entire albums of hooks which are sampled and chopped and screwed
Starting point is 01:10:38 three six like lyrics. So to try to like undermine their influence, you can't do it. Now currently I would say cities like Memphis, cities like Houston have a lot more attraction. I'm not saying overall they're bigger than Atlanta, but they have a lot more traction. Again, like, I definitely agree, right? But like, when, like, we speak on, let's say, like, the Migos influence versus Alcass, bro, again, even though I guess, like, that flow was not
Starting point is 01:11:01 them, like, created something new, it's like LeBron and Magic, where the majority of this generation was heavily influenced by LeBron. But when you speak about the big guards, you know, like the six-foot-nine dude who could shoot, pads, drive, do everything, that's magic, right? So this generation is influenced more by LeBron. So, but... Brown is probably more influential than, let's say, a magicist on this current state of basketball, right? Just like the Migos, to me, it is more influential than I'll get outcast. I agree.
Starting point is 01:11:31 However, you see outcast fingerprints all over everything that's going on to the point where previous to Outcast, there is literally, I mean, there's Kilo Ali, there's players or so there's barely any groups in Atlanta. Like most of the music that was coming out of Atlanta was like fast tempo, booty shaking music that sounded like what was coming out of Miami with two life crew like poison clan and shit like that they were the first ones to kind of like take an east coast approach have you know country-fied samples and like and things like that that they flipped and they created a whole new style in genre and everything you see as far as like people being outside
Starting point is 01:12:10 the box with their fashion being unique singing on records doing you get a lot of that goes back to andre right there and the duality between having like the thing is this outcast is incredible because there's never been a group where you had the two artists which were so different. You have a slick talking pimp, you know, like talking some street shit with Big Boy, and then you have like this esoteric poet like talking some like incense coffee shop shit with Andre and they go cohesively on every song. Look at the Migos. They're essentially the same person on track. No, no, no. They have stylistic differences. They have stylistic differences. You know what I mean? but what's like the main, as far as the message they're conveying,
Starting point is 01:12:50 what's the biggest difference between Offset, Takeoff, and Cuevo? Oh, maybe Offset likes Farragamo more than Fendi? Like, what are they really talking about that significantly unique? No, no, no, no. What points are they bringing that's unique from each other? That's what they, their cohesion. The points, yeah, no, right? Their cohesion is based on their styles, and they work so well together.
Starting point is 01:13:10 And I love the Migos, not taking anything away from them. But even, look, on the most recent Cuevo and, um, and take off album, their best song on there is an Outcast sample. And they're literally flipping the cadence of 100,000. That whole album is based off of either Ray Kwan and Outcast. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:34 So what do we think about the age that a rapper is if they're too old to be rapping about the shit that they're rapping about at? What point should these rappers be packing up? these lyrics because there was an article that just came out and they said that they basically said that Drake is too old to be rapping about the stuff he's rapping about he's 36 he needs to what in particular are they like saying that he's too old to be rapping about like the shit that he was rapping about you know like coming for Kyle yeah just being a bachelor like he the fact that he's still a bachelor he's still talking about pretty much the content that her loss was about
Starting point is 01:14:13 they saying that basically he's too old to be rapping like that. And they compared him to Jay Z at 36. Who wrote that Roller Stone? Yeah. Bro. Jay Z was literally doing the same thing. He was married. No, he retired.
Starting point is 01:14:25 They said he was married and retired at 36. He married Beyonce. Oh, you're talking about you're talking out as, okay. When he was, that was 36. So you're talking about as far as, um, in reference to his womanizing. Is that what this is? That's, that's pretty much what they're saying. Because Jay Z still after that made American gangster.
Starting point is 01:14:41 You know what I mean? He was still selling dope in records. So what's more. Toxic. The thing is he was talking about getting, like, they were like, Jay-Z was talking about getting married and, like, just the evolution of life where Jay-Z, I mean, where Drake's still talking about what 24-25-year-olds are still talking about. Okay, so, but so it's literally referring to his relationship with women. And he, if you remember at that time, Jay-Z was in a sense of, like, no more jerseys. Like, he was trying to, like, he was trying to, like, that was when he had the 30s, the new 20 record and all that.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Yeah, like, it was just like, I just got done being devjim president. And then like I got my wife. Like I'm trying to like be a boy. Like he was, but I just feel like the times and eras have changed where y'all basically telling you want Drake, Drake should be getting married and having kids and stuff. But like, yo, you don't know. He might get the divorce rate in things so high. I feel like people are getting married or trying to have kids later, like later in your late 30s or like early 40s now.
Starting point is 01:15:37 But when do we even when do we even expect Drake to and why do we expect Drake to make a transition from being a bachelor to turning into a businessman and a husband. I mean, he's already a dad, but why does, why is that expectation on him just because somebody else did it? He got a billion dollars, though, man. Like, he's a businessman. And here's the thing, let's be honest. And look, y'all know, I don't know if you know yet.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Y'all know I'm a permanent resident of Jigistan. You know, like, Jay-Z is my... Go. Yeah, he's my favorite. Hell of not the goal. Okay. Yeah, sorry. I know fucking... East Coast bias.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Look, and I'm born and raised in West Los Angeles saying this, all right? Yeah. With that being said, Jay Z. Rolling Stone. Jay Z has never been a sex symbol. Drake is a sex symbol. He's still like,
Starting point is 01:16:24 women are still throwing panties on stage every time Drake come out. You know what I mean? They don't, like... Hold on, hold on. What was that? What? I'm agreeing, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:16:34 No, no, no, no, no, no. You sounded like... Yeah. He said, mm-hmm. He sounded like he threw his panties on stage. He did. You for show. Flacko's bruntie.
Starting point is 01:16:44 is off. I'm sorry, go ahead. No, no, you're right. That was SD as fuck. But with that being said, it makes sense that Jay-Z would have evolved because he had to age gracefully, and it made sense for him to go in that direction. Drake, he's still
Starting point is 01:17:00 an eligible bachelor, you know, 19-year-old girls still want to fuck him. Why not continue to push that line? They also have two different, two different routes. They do. So why, I mean, if Jay-Z was, you know, had the the business that he did back in the day,
Starting point is 01:17:16 of course it would make sense. He's always been a businessman. It would make sense for him to turn in. And Drake's a businessman, too. Drake is a businessman. Drake pushes a line for fiscal responsibility. And like, he's not, he doesn't. He got his own basketball league.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Yeah, like he's a, they play the games in his house and he win the championship. I think if anything, Drake, what Drake shouldn't be doing anymore is like, like Jay Z stopped at a certain point, glamorizing, selling crack. You know what I mean? He only did it.
Starting point is 01:17:43 He dropped the soul and pushing T like a year ago. Right. No, but I'm saying like if like right. He still does that. But I think if anything 21 at a certain point should, I mean, I'm dragging a certain point just stop with the I'm going on drills and like talking about this like. Why does Jay Z?
Starting point is 01:18:00 Bro, listen. That project. Jay Z said we push in fencing. Not finting on. Exactly. Well, DJ Kall's album though. Like the, oh my God, bro. Like was it caught again like the.
Starting point is 01:18:08 God did. God did. Bro. Like he's still glorifying like the stove and shit. You feel? No, he's talking about his past and what he did in his past. But it's a little... It's a little bit different, though.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Like, push, like, and Jay making a reference to it and doing a record with push a T. What else are you going to rap about with Pusha T? Push a T is, like 45 years old. Now, he got to chill. Now, that's an old nigga that got to stop, bro. He's feeling me? Like, bro. Now, Drake, stop with the, you know, you're too old to be pushing the line for drilling
Starting point is 01:18:37 when you're not drilling shit and never have. It was more on the, it was on the drilling part. It was just more on the relationship. Right, but that's how. I look at it though. Oh, with him. And on another note, look at somebody like E40. E40's in his 50s and he's still making records that resonate with the youth.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Wait, wait, wait, not after this year, bro, because he ruined an NBA young boy song and niggas ain't going to let him. Okay, but no, there's certain records where... He already had Drake on blast on his album, thank you. They're doing, right? Come on. Yo, man, here, right. Here's my whole take on this shit, man.
Starting point is 01:19:09 So first off, I can't even find a name of the hating-ass nigger who, who wrote that shit, it just on Rolling Stone, right? So lucky for you, my brother, we don't know your name, bro. You feel me? But like, we don't believe you.
Starting point is 01:19:20 You need more people. Yeah, bro. Nah, because shit like that is just because when hay and ass niggas niggas go home and they see they bitches following
Starting point is 01:19:29 Drake liking his pitches, right? Wanna fuck that, want to fuck that nigga, right? These hayn ass niggas niggas say, ah, fuck,
Starting point is 01:19:36 I'm mad of shit. Put on the album. The album is flawless and perfect. They can't find shit else to hate on. Oh, Let me go ahead and just conjure up some shit to hate on him, bro.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Suck a dick, bro. Suck that nigga dick, right? Because that's some, bro, that's some fucked up shit. Bro, this nigga put together the perfect album, the perfect rollout, right? Like, went past the expectation. You feel me, right? Gave the fence what they wanted. But hey, nash, nigga, mad because his bitch want to fuck, Drick.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Now he's writing, he's writing articles and shit. Hey, I'm inclined to agree with you. Bro, he's a fuck nigga, man. If somebody going to hold Drake account. for that. I really hope they don't be put in futures releases in the dits. I also-slapping future shit on the ox anymore. I also don't want to hear bars from family man Mary Drake. Like, I want to hear the flex rap. I want to hear the shit about the bitches.
Starting point is 01:20:30 And I mean, do y'all have an age limit on when a niggis should settle down? Yo, no. What I really think is that- Because look at Diddy. And his daddy's still outside. Diddy's 53 with Young Miami. So my whole thing is you got to come at. Diddy before you come at Drake was 36.
Starting point is 01:20:45 More power to him. When he was fucking Cassie before that. Yeah. And that's why I'm like, like, the older hip hop generation, that's what they're teaching us. Like, we see Dr. Dre. He's with like April Jones. We see Diddy with Young Miami.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Whoa, Dr. Dre is not with April Jones. It was. He was. Was. Take Dix. No, he was. No, he was. He went over. Yeah, but now. But that's what I'm saying. He's 56 and he was with like a girl on her 20s or 30s. So it's like
Starting point is 01:21:08 that's what we're seeing. And the thing is, I feel like that I don't know everyone thought that Drake would have fallen Jay Z's footsteps, meaning that at 36 he would have been having a kid with Rihanna. It didn't pan out that way. And people got to get over it. It's like it's just not. You want to know why?
Starting point is 01:21:26 You know why? Because she's fucking pretty flaco. And that's like Jake got braids. You see he's dressing like he's talking now. Why is Drake not allowed to do shit the other rappers do? Because when we found out that he had a baby, it was so bad that he didn't know. We didn't find out differently though. Yeah, I'm a Drake's there.
Starting point is 01:21:40 But that's what I'm saying. But why is it? Oh, niggas high babies all the time. Right. Niggas high kids. Right. It was bad because the whole, sorry, not the hope. And it was bad because our queen of OVO right now was, was at that time a sladica.
Starting point is 01:21:55 She was in the rounds of portal, right? The bitch was damn near a prostitute and a porn star. So what, niggas fuck strikers and porn stars. That's what rappers do. Nah, but not Drake's dick, bro. I'm sorry. Drake is not bigger than a program. How many songs?
Starting point is 01:22:12 How many songs? How many songs? How many songs does Drake have when he's rapping about a strippers? Flacco, you know that did you not see that pick last week of him with fucking eight strippers in Miami all with a Chanel bag? But to get what Flaco saying. Not in a porn star. Yeah. I didn't expect that either.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Like that was the biggest curveball because it's like, name of rap that I'd done that. Why are we shaming Drake for doing what other niggas do? No, but what nigga? Is he a fucking prince? Drake ain't every nigga though. Drake is the top of. the rap total pool. I mean, he's doing the shit that all the niggas doing.
Starting point is 01:22:43 And that's what I'm saying. Like, he can't be doing that. If he didn't do that, I put $100 he would have been with me honest. So now we want Drake to start rapping about being a fucking family man and we want him to get married and shit. We want to take about the game. Why are we speeding up that man process? Be honest. Be honest.
Starting point is 01:22:57 That porn star shakes, plus he must have been fired because he did not want to pull out, bro. It had to be. Listen, first off, man, I knew Drake was a demon where Johnny Blaze was telling us he was dumping in a raw. Like, that's what I knew Drake. Bro, I got home girls. But he was young. He was young at that time. But why you're acting like you niggas as men just be strapping up?
Starting point is 01:23:16 I don't. I haven't used a condom since the Clinton administration. Exactly. I have condom all day, every day. I've had multiple abortions. My nigger, man. Shut. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Shout out my nigger lush, but a real nigger right here, man. I'm gonna keep it funky. Why we expect Drake to not be a nigger, he's a nigger too. But a point star. Nah, listen up, bro. Listen up, bro. A regular show at three, but a porn star that you could look up with her content. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:45 You ain't hit that porn star. You don't know. No homo, though. I ain't a lie to it was softcore porn, though. It was a hard part of. Yeah. No, like, again, it was some softcore shit. She might got it going on.
Starting point is 01:23:55 Nah, but here's why we expect more for, again, no homo, right? But we expect more for a drink because, you know, like, we expect him to have a golden penis, right? To wear, like, he's not out of this. You're gay, bro. You're fucking gay. No. Pause. No, Paul.
Starting point is 01:24:10 You can't pause that. Like, gay. It's full, it's full gay. Like, you can't. You might as well just say yes homo, bro.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Here's what I mean by that though. So it's like a golden dick, it's crazy. Especially when you listen in to Drake DeJago. Again, I don't mean right that I'm attracted to his dick. I mean right that bro is so fucking rich and up there, right? That he has a golden penis to wear, bro. Like, you can really like change these holes. He changed her life.
Starting point is 01:24:37 I know what you're talking about. I don't hear right now. Okay, but it still sounds gay, but I hear you. Yeah, I get what you're saying. No, listen, though. Like, damn it is Dick is King Midas. Yo. Now you're even more gay.
Starting point is 01:24:48 So now you're sounding like the writer. It's touching, bitch, she's rich. Now you're sounding like the writer from Rolling Stone. No. Expects more from Drake. No, he'll hate that, nigger. Yes. You're saying the same thing.
Starting point is 01:24:59 You expect more from Drake. And look, look, look, I don't want to glamorize the fact that I've had abortions in the past. Like, I don't want to push that agenda. It's janky, but it's the errors of you. multiple. Seven? No, not no seven.
Starting point is 01:25:11 But, uh, no, no, I'm not gonna give a number. But, but, but there's some,
Starting point is 01:25:16 there's some, there's some pussies that got ghosts father. Let's get pussy. I spent it. There's, I turn some pussies
Starting point is 01:25:22 into haunted houses, bro. I'm like, damn, you feel me? Like, you know, but with that being said,
Starting point is 01:25:27 with that being said, I'm fin to have kids in the next year, so. In next year? Probably. With who? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Um, you're like, I ain't born it this time. You're like, Yo, bro, like, can you imagine right now, like, the Holes who Lush may have, like, three abortions is now married in a picket white fence, pretending like she don't got them demons in that past? Come on, bro. That's nuts, bro.
Starting point is 01:25:52 Bro, that she got Casper. Ooh. Fucking licking around her pussy dog. Yo, listen, nah, man, but, no, but I don't believe in abortions, though. No, no, it's all bad. I don't either. Yeah, of course. We didn't touch on Sweetie saying that she's about to drop a freestyle.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Speaking of abortions. No, sweetie. She's bugging. She said she's about to address everything that's been said about her in the media. Yeah, she's bugging. But we don't want that shit. Okay, let's be known. We don't have a child with sweetie.
Starting point is 01:26:23 I kind of need it. I would have needed it before take on his death, but I don't want to hear. It's bad timing. It's over for, listen, bro. Again, so weedy, bro. Again, respectfully, Suweedy. Respectfully, sis. it was over for you when you fucked
Starting point is 01:26:38 two niggas in the same friend group and allegedly fuck the nigger cousin, bro. We done with you, bro. Go away, enjoy your life as an IG model. Fuck it. Make her only fan. Pop some pussy. Show the Libya, bro.
Starting point is 01:26:50 But we're done with your music, sis. Forget about it, bro. We're not listening. Were you ever a fan of sweetie? I was a fan probably, what? Not really a fan of her, but I would tolerate her music and listen to it because I thought she was a good, wholesome.
Starting point is 01:27:05 You feel me? Nice girl. I don't know why you got that image from, but she's fine as fuck. She's bad. I love sweetie. I used to be a fan of her music. I ain't up front. I see freestyle.
Starting point is 01:27:15 She had the bitch freestyle. Like, I did fucking. You see, her music has gotten better. Right, you see these fucked up. She raps.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Does she wear her stuff? I don't know. No. That track she got with Draco is crazy. You see those, you see those, uh, video. And she's slid.
Starting point is 01:27:29 You know the fucked up gaps in my teeth? I would floss those with Sweetie's thong, bro. Like, yeah. No, she's bad, bro. Absolutely. She, like, I know, she's the- three niggas in the same friend group,
Starting point is 01:27:38 and you still, you know, and you know why all three of them fucked her because she's that bad. She's literally that bad. Regardless, what she's doing right now choosing to speak up at such a opportunistic time is very, very, very, very cloud-chaser-ish. Because I feel her, though, I mean, I don't feel her by,
Starting point is 01:27:54 like, I don't feel her by get her. Y'all don't think it was a coincidence? Because the last record at the Migo's drop was messy and it was the music video and everything, and it was about her. That was the last thing that Quayvone offset I mean, Quaver and take over drop. The last thing you see on the Instagram,
Starting point is 01:28:09 so when everyone's going to check after they died, they're seeing that record. And I feel her butt. No, but bro, and she had the nerve to play victim like, ah, I'll just be like, what the fuck is going on? Bro, you shoulder as you sitting on a little baby's lap
Starting point is 01:28:23 insane way and he fucked you for the equivalent of a dollar to niggas like us. Meaning like if a little baby spent $50, 100 care on you, that's equivalent to a fucking dollar niggas like me. So he damn near fuck you for a dollar, and you thought that was. a flex. Come on, bro. She did it to herself. So now she's trying to come and try
Starting point is 01:28:39 to play victim, especially in this time after we know that you're the fucking reason that Cuevo and the offset relationship was fractured. So which means that also to take up with nine for the last six months. Is there any accountability on offset? Exactly. Ultimately, though,
Starting point is 01:28:55 at the end of the day, if their relationship could be fractured by some thought for lack of a better word, then that really says more about their relationship than it does about her. And there's obviously more going on than that. And they have to take accountability as men for doing what they're. Or really, you know, set has to take accountability for what he did, you know, in that
Starting point is 01:29:16 situation. And I kind of feel bad too because I feel like that whole takeoff situation, I feel like it wouldn't have even happen if offset was there because offset is the hood one. Offset's the one that could pick up, could read certain situations. And I don't want to put things in there, but I truly feel like if offset was there, I don't think. Well, if they were still moving around with them. the three of them, the chain of events wouldn't have happened that even led them to that place. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:41 So, you know, like, but you can't put that on set. But you really can, though. That's what I'm saying. That's very dark to do. Like, I'm not, but I just feel like, no, no, I'm saying it's more like, I'm not saying he's just the hood one that could pick up. Like, yo, they're moving fun. Like, he's the one that was the street one.
Starting point is 01:29:55 So I feel like. Or put enough to know we're not going to go to a fucking dice game right now. Yeah. That's not smart for us to do. I already know this. The fact of puncher. Yeah. What did you guys think about the, there was a.
Starting point is 01:30:05 pictures circling around social media. It was supposed to be like a memorial place for offset and the flowers. I'm sorry. Oh, I'm so sorry. A memorial place for takeoff. But the flowers that was up didn't say
Starting point is 01:30:21 his name. I think it said somebody else's name. So the Prince family from Jay Prince and from Houston. Yo, that's the fuck-up shit though, man. If you're going to make a memorial for somebody, the least you can do is make sure that your name isn't like bigger than their name.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Again, not just bigger, but like 10 times the size of their name, the Prince family, was bigger than Takeoff's name. Again, I'm not saying they had any ill will or like they were involved by any way. I'm not putting that on them. I'm just saying, bro, if you're going to make a memorial for somebody, bro, the least you can do for the nigga, bro, it's not like taking shot. That comes off as if, yo, like, we're trying to be like out of life. Because again, there's a narrative surrounding that family that I'm not putting on them,
Starting point is 01:31:07 but it's currently narrative on our social media that like they love to be praised. They love Adelaation. You feel I mean? Like they love to be exalted up. And that right there just screamed, exalt me. I'm doing something good. Answer this for me. So when my sister passed away, the family got a lot of flowers.
Starting point is 01:31:24 So it was most of the flowers was like to me directly. Someone was to my mom depending on who sent it. Right. Do you guys think that somebody might have sent the family? flowers not knowing exactly what happened and just propped it up right there? Or do y'all think that the family actually ordered those flowers to put them right there with it? I would assume that they would order flowers and I'm going to make another assumption and go out on a limb and say the reason they did that is because not only is that Houston is the Prince family's territory. First of all, like don't a nickel bag gets sold and you feel me at the swap me that they don't.
Starting point is 01:31:59 I'm just saying they run that shit. You feel me? Yeah, Houston. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Houston, big time. And there was people trying to place culpability on Jazz Prince's shoulders as a result. So then I feel like it was making a political statement, having their name, just let it be known that they don't co-sign or condone what happened and that they're, you know, going to do whatever they can to make it right. That's how I read that.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Do you feel like they should have been at the funeral? Because they didn't go to a funeral either. I mean, it would have probably optically been a good look for them, but we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. They might not have been wanted there. Atlanta, man, bro, let's be real here, bro. If it's already in the media of, let's say, certain roles and things that happen, bro, and they go to, man, listen, like, they're not having an opportunity to explain now, bro, it wasn't like there wasn't enough, right?
Starting point is 01:32:48 Right, even to the point where, like, the one dude that was on 1017 that got dropped when he made that tweet about that. Now, like that, right, now, obviously, if. And I know he wasn't even in Atlanta at the time he made that tweet. He was on a cruise with his family. But if that's the sentiment, and that dude didn't even know takeoff personally, you know what I mean? If that's the sentiment that he's making, obviously there's an air of general discontent
Starting point is 01:33:17 from the streets of Atlanta. So, like, you're right. I agree with what you're saying, Flacco. To the point where, like, when P&B got murdered in L.A., there's a bunch of people not even in Philly, Vegas. Not even in Philly, even in New York, they were saying, the next rapper from L.A., Snoop Dogg, whoever is getting smoked. Kenjee said Kenjit too, you, Roddy.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Yeah, yeah. Like, what Roddy do? Like, come on, bro. None of those fools are from L.A. None of them. They were saying they wanted to get their lick back, though. That's what I'm saying. They had named Pop Smog, they had named Biggie.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Right. Every time a rapper come out of, I ain't a lot of New York. Like, New York is either, though. Yeah. It's a lot of, like, there's a lot of big artists from, like, the East Coast that they did pass away out here. So I don't think anyone's going to do nothing, but, like, they say it for that club. And it goes a lot deeper, too, as far as, like, the gang politics and, you know, L.A.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Basically, L.A. gangs having such a prominent presence in the streets in New York. Yeah. Like. Yo. And, like, that's my issue, right? So, like, Lus says something very important. Right. No, New York gangs out here, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:34:17 You feel me? Like, shouts to them. You feel like? Yeah. We got it. Nah, because, like, let's just said something very important. It was a political statement, bro. And, like, that's my issue.
Starting point is 01:34:29 And in this climate, the last thing on your fucking mind should be making a fucking political statement, right? Because, again, that's the narrative around that family is they're always trying to posture as the boogeyman of hip hop. The mob ties. Yeah, we're like a mob. Now, listen, I'll be real. After doing my research and seeing the $250,000 to a particular presidential, you know, like, you know, right? And, like, a million dollars in end of nation to, like, miscellaneous church. They mob taxed Romanian, bro.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Like, they got their hands. in politics, the government, them niggas mob tauts for real. I was wrong when I said I don't see any group of niggas really being mobtized because the mobs actually had the police in their back pocket. They're not the only ones. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:35:12 They're not the only ones. Mottes, mob tauties for real. You feel me? I mean, I know you heard about BMF, like. Yeah, but like they got taken out quickly. Not quickly. What? Like, what, five years?
Starting point is 01:35:23 They had a very substantial run, bro. But that's another conversation. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. It started in Detroit. Detroit year. There's a whole TV series about it, Netflix series. Stars for these things.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you. Regardless, I agree. I'm inclined to agree with you, Flaco, but at the same time, when there's so much, when you have such a powerful presence and you're important to so many people as the Prince family is, and your name is being used in that manner, like you kind of have to make a statement,
Starting point is 01:35:58 whether or not it's a tacky way to go about it. They made three statements, though. Like came on, like, IG and said, oh, man, we disavowed. We condemned it. But then in a statement, he slipped up and let us know, yeah, you know, that one of those guys were some dudes that, you know, that we know. Right? So, like, come on, bro.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Why would you even, like, make that statement, right? So they've made three statements so far, you know? And they're also, that's them taking responsibility because, like, look, you guys all fucking solve the case on Instagram Live or whatever or on, or on Twitch. You feel me? So obviously people would have got to the bottom of that pretty quickly as well. Bro, I see the most eerie shit. Like I've seen the same nigga next to like Jay Prince Jr.
Starting point is 01:36:38 When Duke the Jeweler like what's like shooting dice too. And I'm like, bro, bro, brad, like that ain't no coincidence though. Like that same little hungry little nigger man who looked like he from the straight up trenches. Bro, if a nigga got on a black wife beater, like while we're shooting dice, he got to go. bro, family. What? Family. As a black white beater
Starting point is 01:37:01 equivalent to black forces. Family. I didn't know that. Family ain't like it because I'd be sweating and I don't want to have sweat stains on my bearder. I ain't never seen a nigger put on a black wife beater with good intentions in mind. Never. You feel him?
Starting point is 01:37:15 So when I see him at both? Man, come on, bro. That's pretty funny though. I'm not going to read. Yeah. Did y'all see this Dave Chappelle Saturday Night Live performance? Incredible. He did.
Starting point is 01:37:28 I'm sorry, not performance skits. That's why Dave need his damn show back. Come on, bro. He's, he's our con- So do you guys think that Kyrie's punishment is fair? I think it's excessive. No, it's definitely excessive and it's like, it's one of those situations where the NBA they already don't like Kyrie and what they're doing to him is it's just, it's just pretty much just basically staying like they don't want, like, they hate when you know.
Starting point is 01:37:56 you try to be woke. Like, they hate when you're trying to be awoken in certain stances because how can we put his blame on Kyrie when Amazon has the movie up? And not only do they have it up, they up charge it to $50. So you have to pay $50 to watch. You came in watching the Amazon Prime and the sales have skyrocketed. So all this is just promoting that movie even more. So as long as white people profit off of it, then it's all right.
Starting point is 01:38:20 As long as it's making money, bro, don't promote it. But as long as you're making money, we don't care. I forgot who said it earlier. One of y'all said it earlier that Shaq was going at Kyrie, but the movie was being played in his theaters. Yeah, like Shaq has movie theaters that he owns, and when that movie dropped, it was screening it and having it. But he came at Kyrie and not realizing, you've been, you actually put in your businesses and stuff. So I think a lot of people just didn't realize that, like, if you have any of you, you watch the movie? Fuck me up.
Starting point is 01:38:50 Here, right, so. I haven't seen it. Okay, so like before that, though, right, now, now the people, Let's say, like, who are canceling him, like, let's say, like, Joe Sy. And he's a supporter of the CCP, so that nigger has no ground, like, listen. And he just says that, like, China's violation of, like, people's human rights
Starting point is 01:39:09 is needed to, like, keep society in order. So if that nigger is pro-China, right, violating human rights, come on, bro, right? So how can that nigga even, like, make a determination on, like, bro, it is dumb. Shack 2 was a hypocrite, right? I think that when y'all said, a moment ago is true.
Starting point is 01:39:26 And it's not just the NBA, it's the NFL, it's Major League Baseball. Sports is not even about being woke. They don't want any strong political opinions coming off of their athletes at all. They want, it's got to be patriotism, it's got to be pro-America, and if it's not going with that agenda, and it's not wholesome and mass palatable for a prime time family-oriented audience, they're not trying to see it, period. Yeah, now in terms of it being fair. Now, here, right?
Starting point is 01:40:00 So what I say, it was fair. Now, here's my thing. And, yo, also, too, like, we're going to solo cam at. Here, right, rather? I'm sick of you niggas, man. I'm sick of some black folks, bro. And here's what I mean when I say I'm sick of niggas, man. We created this culture of hypers sensitivity when it comes to racial issues,
Starting point is 01:40:22 meaning we've been championing and campaigning and even praising and clapping it up whenever a local Karen gets called an act doing something that we suspect is white supremacy or or we suspect is race driven we have allotted and praised them losing their jobs them losing their livelihoods.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Now, the book that Kyrie shared, again, I'm one to think the book that Kyrie shared, right, and it get quoted Hitler, saying that the Jews are crafting this new world order to oppress and take over. Right. So that book itself, if he posted that book and Jewish people are saying, you know, we are offended, we're going to take this shit to the very end. And we want him to lose his livelihood.
Starting point is 01:41:12 What's the difference between that and us campaigning for a Karen to lose her job and livelihood because she, you know, you know what the difference is? What's up? The primary difference is that Karen was making $45,000 a year at Walmart as opposed to somebody that is beloved and entertains millions of people and has a huge staff and what goes on with them affects millions and millions of dollars. Now, how come there's been a lot of incidents, incidences against black people,
Starting point is 01:41:48 against people of color and when people speak out and when they try to speak out about it there's real no recourse of repercussions you know what I mean? Now Donald Sterling Donald Sterling yeah did he lose his team
Starting point is 01:41:59 okay losing his team was equivalent to him getting three quarters of a billion dollars Yes here right But that's what I'm saying Losing his team too Yeah not right now But though again
Starting point is 01:42:11 But as soon as you speak up against Jewish people No here right again I definitely Look and I do not coast condone or co-sign the contents of that book at all, and I do not support anti-Semitism in any shape or form. I definitely agree. However, I do see the hypocrisy. No, I definitely agree, but let's not pretend, though.
Starting point is 01:42:30 Like, again, you can't try to claim that a Karen and people like Kyrie and Kanye, that you can't, that's not mutually exclusive. That's not mutually exclusive. No, no, no. And here's why I see no difference, though. If a person who's working at a 9-to-5 lose their livelihoods and we are over. okay with it that, yo, that, again, they're risking the chance of going bankrupt and homeless.
Starting point is 01:42:53 Again, let's be real here, bro. The only difference between what the Jews is doing and what we're doing is we have that we don't have that much power. We have recognized that we don't have the power to truly cancel a nigga. What they're doing, that's truly canceling a nigga. They can take away your everything.
Starting point is 01:43:09 We don't got that power and we're fucking jealous. And that's it. We're fucking jealous of it. And the thing is... And if we had that power, bro, we do the exact same shit to them racist motherfuck. But the thing is, But the thing is, too, the difference is between a Karen and a Kyrie situation is a Karen history for some part didn't go through slavery.
Starting point is 01:43:26 I feel like with blacks, we've been through slavery and stuff. So it's like there's two hurt people. It's like, yo, Kyrie to me is like, how could I be racist if I'm black? Like, I feel like a lot of people are like, how could I be racist if I'm black? Like, we've been being ridiculed our whole lives and stuff. So I feel like it's too hurt people arguing with each other because for us, we've been a person. We're going to press our whole life and we feel like where it comes to the Jewish community that we respect what they've been through and stuff.
Starting point is 01:43:55 But when people come at us, people don't look at our pain the same way as they look at their pain. When it's like, oh, the Holocaust, this and that, but like, yeah, we were in slavery for a hundred years. So we're both hurt individuals. And I feel like the difference between the Karen and the Kyrie is Kyrie comes from PTSD history of some black people being in slavery. Now, to be fair, I agree with what you said, but to be fair. Jews have been oppressed for thousands of years as well.
Starting point is 01:44:20 They've been literally ran out of, I think, over 70 countries, you know what I mean? Over the course of history. Now, something that you never take into account when having this type of dialogue is systemic oppression. And the fact that when Jews are doing that, or just like, I don't even want to say Jews, I'll say, you know, the ruling class, which is predominantly white, and happens to have a Jewish influence in it predominantly, predominantly that, that it has a much different accent and the effects are a lot
Starting point is 01:44:50 more definite than when it's than when black people do it. Here, yes. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, but again, like we're speaking on fair, right, which I'm speaking on like the action. Like, again, for example, black people are saying, damn, right? Like, we're feeling choked up by this particular group.
Starting point is 01:45:08 But again, black folks have created this, you know, this culture of hypersensitivity when it comes to racial issues to wear, bro. There are white folks walking on eggshell thinking damn bro like there's certain shit that i can't say because i say this i'm a fucking racist right we created that shit right right no no wait right no that was created as a response to yeah yeah they're walking that wasn't out of no you know them walking on eggshells i think the intent with the the whole karen thing that their intent is different so a karen is going to
Starting point is 01:45:37 walk into a park and see a black person just enjoying a fucking lunch and oh this person shouldn't be here cause the police i'm being harassed by this this this black men and da-da-da-da-da-da what happens when the police are called for black men they don't ask no questions they pull up they shoot so that's why i think the intent would a caring is different here no right okay so so uh this dude backs the blue fully so you're like that point's not gonna resonate with no no no no you y'all get what i'm saying i is 1,000 percent i agree no no 1,000 percent no no right but let's do do the opposite of what kairi did let's say there was a star athlete, a white star athlete who posted a book quoting the KKK trying to prove
Starting point is 01:46:22 why blacks are inferior, right? If a white athlete posted that book, all you niggas would be marching on fucking streets with your marching boots and your Negro spirituals in hand asking for that nigga to lose his job and livelihood. And I can tell you exactly how that would end for that white man. He would not lose his job. He would probably be suspended. We're jealous.
Starting point is 01:46:42 He would probably be suspended. He would be back on a. court next three games. That's my point, though. Wait, though. That's my point, though. We're not mad at that action. We don't think that that shit is too far. We don't think that shit is unfair. We just mad that we don't got
Starting point is 01:46:55 the power to do what they can do. That's about it, right? No. No, no. And then I can tell you how it would be for black people. Yeah, we're not consistent. So we're going to cancel somebody. We'll be over them for a month or a week. They'll fade out. Somebody a rapper or a die or something like that. We won't even be talking about it no more. So that call action won't even need to happen because we're just going to
Starting point is 01:47:14 over it. If Tom Brady did what you just said, he would be forgiven. Justin Bieber came up. We would have forgiven. We do. Black people forgive. Black people forgive. We do.
Starting point is 01:47:25 That's the thing. We forgive quicker than white people do. And that's the flaw. Black people forgive. Justin Bieber did a whole clip singing, yo, one last lonely nigga, the whole thing. Hard art. Hard, nigger. We all fucking with him.
Starting point is 01:47:38 We all forgive him. He's not canceled. That's all of a year, though, right? Like he did that at like 10 years old. We back shot. We're stopping at H&M. We back drifting Gucci. Like, we're not consistent.
Starting point is 01:47:48 Louis Vuitton. Yeah, we're back. Gucci. Louis, all those are been. So black people would have forgiven already. By this point, we wouldn't even be talking about this anymore.
Starting point is 01:47:58 Black people would have already forgiven a nigga. And nothing would have happened. Bro, we cheered and, bro, we were happy and exuberant whenever we hear a Karen lost their job. We are four people losing a job for being racially insensitive. If they are for that.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Bro, whatever happened to black people boycott. the NFL, how'd that turn out? Bro, niggas aren't inconsistent. Bro, bro, listen, like, again, right, that's it, right? But let's not as niggas act like, oh, we are so against people losing their livelihood for being racially insensitive.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Our history tells us we are all for that so they don't complain when these niggas are, or, again, got their foot on Kyrie Irvin's neck for him being racially insensitive. Regardless of that, like, even if you're right, which there's a lot of flaws in what you said, although you do have some substantial points as well, regardless of that
Starting point is 01:48:43 I think that's for literally sharing a link that's a very excessive like Yeah because what you're saying is Karen does all that Kyrie just shared a link let's say someone just shared a link
Starting point is 01:48:55 they would not go through all that issue If Tom Brady shared a link to a book where KKK is being quoted for while we are inferior but you can't That shit will get fired That book is not from a KKK member so I don't think we can say that
Starting point is 01:49:07 No no no no no no wait But though it's from a black man quote and Hitler to prove why the Jews are trying to form a new world order to oppress and why the Jews are Satan's and our enemies, bro. That book is saying that, right? So again, though, if that shit is saying that, that's the exact same and same as a KKK member saying the opposite. And I'm saying, again, to me, Kyrie Irvin's punishment is excessive to me, but in terms of being fair. Okay, so we agree.
Starting point is 01:49:33 It's excessive. Here, right? Like, again, like, I wouldn't give them that. Me, right? But if I'm Jewish, how can me as a black man tell a Jewish person, yo, y'all are going too fucking far. Y'all are tripping when I know that my people would have done the exact same thing if we had the power to do so. It's just like there's a lot more to it than that. And black people don't have the power to do so.
Starting point is 01:49:59 And if we really did have the power, I don't believe we would do it. You crazy. No, we're forgiven. The black culture is very forgiven, bro. The black community forgave our kids. Yeah, we forgave everybody. Bill Cod, like name them. Whoever it is, we forget.
Starting point is 01:50:13 Listen, bro, we are the number one race betas. Period. What does that mean? Break it down. Bro, we love to make everything about, listen that, bro. A motherfucker with no GED, no communication skills, no education, no skills will go apply to a job at a fucking banking firm. Don't get it and say, damn, bro, they focus on black.
Starting point is 01:50:35 Bro, we are the biggest race baiters on earth, right? So you don't think. So there's the same scenario you said, there's a bunch of white people, you can say poor white people that apply the jobs and be like, yo, I just didn't get this job because I ain't black. Because of affirmative action. Yeah, because I ain't black. And it's way more of them.
Starting point is 01:50:49 There's way more white people on welfare than black people. That's what I'm saying. So there's a lot more poor white people that are saying, I'm only poor because black people. The same way you're saying that. And that's more of them saying that than we are saying that. Bro, let's be real here, bro. Niggas love making everything about race.
Starting point is 01:51:07 Niggas love making. White people are too. The reason why they're behind. Look, let come on, brother. But it is, though. When I walked down the street, come on. I went to interviews and stuff. Like, I would literally have to put on a suit, put on glasses to look the most unfraining
Starting point is 01:51:24 as possible where I feel like the other counterparts, they don't have to do that. And that does play a role because people do look at black people a certain way. So I feel like that you can't take that away. Absolutely. Absolutely. And at the end of the day, Flacco, are you not a black man that supports Donald Trump? Has there not been a lot of discussion around Donald Trump
Starting point is 01:51:45 and his views on the black community? You think you're the only black person that fuck with Trump? So I feel like I fuck with Trump for a different reason, right? So here's my fault with Trump, right? But that's the whole point, though. You're able to look past what a lot of people view as potentially, and I'm not going to even put that on it, but I'm going to say a lot of people view Donald Trump
Starting point is 01:52:06 at best as racially divisive and at worst as a racist himself. And there's still a lot of support for him in the black community because of what he does economically. But to me, everyone in politics, like, majority Democrats are Republicans. For sure. For sure.
Starting point is 01:52:23 So I feel like... For sure. Like, look, look, Bill Clinton literally finessed the entire black community by playing a fucking saxophone on Arsenio Hall and thinking that he was for them and then proceeded to incarcerate
Starting point is 01:52:36 more minorities than any president in American history. So you're right. It's not just mutually exclusive to the Republicans. Wait, though. Here's a difference, though. Now, there's one party who is absolutely our enemy, and they have proven a B.R. The Democrats, you're going to say.
Starting point is 01:52:52 Right. And here's why. So right now, I guess like the big issue right now, currently in the States, is free speech, right? And the very same people who are telling us that, yo, these private social media companies have have every right to discriminate and get riddy motherfuckers or the same
Starting point is 01:53:10 motherfuckers who told us in the 60s these private bars these private nightclubs got every right to kick your black ass out if they don't want any niggas in their place right so this party has been consistent they've been consistent being against
Starting point is 01:53:26 human rights being against black folks so me personally as a black man I cannot just consciously but as far as like I feel that and you're right about all that but as far as redistribution of wealth, as far as, like, it goes both ways. There's a lot of the left-leaning that more favors certain social issues that benefit black people and other minorities way more than the way Republicans look at it.
Starting point is 01:53:52 So they're both fucked up. They're both enemies of disenfranchised people. I look at it like a girl. Like, is either you're going to get your girl that cheats on you in front of your face or the one that cheats on you behind your back. Do you want to grow with no ass or small tities? You know what I mean? Or an ugly face or no ass.
Starting point is 01:54:13 You know what I mean? Yeah, bro. But like, again, I don't feel like because the Democrats are, I guess, more prone to giving niggas free shit, right? That's like, we should support them. You feel like me? Right. So again, like, I truly believe, bro, that like there's truly only one enemy when it comes
Starting point is 01:54:29 to us and that's Democrats. I think everybody. That's our only, nah, bro. The Republicans, the Democrats, they all got the order to do this. For the last, what, like 400 years, them niggas have been consistent with, we want to do whatever we can to make sure these niggas don't rise up. Okay, but what about the 1980s when we're under conservative rule?
Starting point is 01:54:51 And literally, that's like the Iran contra, like crack cocaine being literally planted in the inner cities of America to fund overseas wars and terrorist organizations. George Bush, the first one, war on drugs. Come on, bro. They both. Come on, bro. Wait, though. On drugs, 80s.
Starting point is 01:55:10 Come on. Did y'all vote? No. Wait, the hood up now, bro. Did you? No. Again, I've never voted. I'm registered.
Starting point is 01:55:19 I voted twice. I voted twice. I know. Twice. That's it. The only time I voted. You voted twice? I, I'm lying.
Starting point is 01:55:27 I did vote. Obama. I voted Obama. I voted Obama second term. I voted Obama second term. I was old enough. Wait. Hey, how old are you?
Starting point is 01:55:34 Me? No, you? I'm 30. How you? Because I, oh, shit. She was 18 when he voted his first time. Yeah. So it was the second time that, uh,
Starting point is 01:55:44 2012. That's when a lot of people voted for the first time. A lot of the you. And that was the last time I voted. You niggas got real political. Yeah, man. You need you. Y'all turned.
Starting point is 01:55:57 Hey, I'm sure to go on record. I want to go on record and say, I like this. course between the four of us. I think that's pretty solid. Yeah. Well, that's the Monday show. Make sure you guys go to...
Starting point is 01:56:08 Wait a sec. Real quick. Hey, it's in 56. So we still got four minutes. But, no, yeah, so real quick. Real quick. Let's have fun, all right? All right.
Starting point is 01:56:16 Flacco was telling us that he was pulling bitches on Venice Beach. Oh, at the Venice Beach with you. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I never said pulling bitches. Hold on, hold on, hold on. He said all the bitches was on him. Look, I'm sorry, Flacco's imaginary. girlfriend, all right?
Starting point is 01:56:33 Like, I'm sorry. I know you're not pulling holes. Black man don't cheat. He's got a 48-year-old Pakistani man catfishing him right now. I don't want to fucking throw Bishir off. Send him to them toflare bag.
Starting point is 01:56:45 So, but I heard that my man Rob was present for a gaggle of young tenders choosing up on the Thymaster himself. So we went to Venice Beach. I think it was a Drake job. Honestly, never mind.
Starting point is 01:57:02 So we went out there to like test out. I had a thighs out too. To let the people know how they feel about the album. And what I could say is that believe it or not, Flocko's personality is very intriguing to females. The way when we put up to serve. Yeah, like he's himself and he's very confident and he's halathing. He's like, what type of bitches?
Starting point is 01:57:21 What type of bitch? I don't stutter around holes. You didn't stutter once this entire show. Okay, yeah, man. Hey, listen. He don't really stutter around me. There is. But around the bitches, though, listen.
Starting point is 01:57:30 Like, you got to control that shit. my nicked. Like, you can't go off to no bitch like, I, nah, blah, blah, blah. I was, if we had been mean to you, you would have been stuttering. I think that there's like when he gets mad, he starts stuttering. There's a connection there. He was mad today, but we weren't being mean, so there's less
Starting point is 01:57:45 stuttering. I see a psychological tick right there. Now, with that being said, to reiterate Gina's question, what type of bitches was on? It was a beautiful black woman. Was it? Would you date the bitches I was on him? Yeah, I would. You slid on them? No, I didn't. They were,
Starting point is 01:58:00 They were, they were with guys too. So it was like, they were with guys on them too? No, no, they were like, we stopped people. They were with a group of guys too, so type of thing. So that's why we didn't pull up on them. But multiple ones that we went to, they wouldn't. And the thing that surprised me is like that was the first time me going on in public with flaco. And the flag that flaco, no matter who he's around, he's going to be flaco.
Starting point is 01:58:22 That's a day that I really respect the flogical because I'm like, yo, he's not going to switch up. He's not going to change it. He's going to be entertaining around everybody. And that's what I realized girls. Was it also, were they, did they recognize them from No Jumper and was that? It was early, it was like, this was like probably June or May. It was mad early. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:40 So I was in New Jones. Is this if he goes now, he wouldn't, he would get stopped like. Is this pre-Spitgate? Yeah, oh yeah, it was. Pre-spick gate. Yeah, like it was like, it was like, it was like, first week here though, right? It was like, okay, I came like November 11th. It was like.
Starting point is 01:58:54 So in other words, last week you reported on some shit that was six months ago. What happened? Once the last time he was, but yes. I thought the shit had just had me. The way he said, I was at the beach with RTTV. But that's the last time he was out in public probably. No, Flago need to go out with this again. I just make sure Flago ain't scared.
Starting point is 01:59:10 No, we was at the fucking, like, no, at the vegan restaurant like last month. Oh, yeah, we went to somewhere. Yeah, like somewhere. And Silver Lake. Okay. Near Compton, right? No. The fuck?
Starting point is 01:59:23 Silver Lake is not there. Silver Lake is not there, Compton? I asked you to go to, what's that thing, Julie and Compton with me. I was in Compton. Silver leg near Compton is crazy. Hey, you're good in my hood. I got you. Yo, listen.
Starting point is 01:59:37 Slide through the Clamson. We got you. Yo, listen, like, seeing lush, like, throw up his hood is the best shit in the world. I'm throwing at the beginning, man. What? Woo! Listen, oh, man, listen.
Starting point is 01:59:49 You got what? I do that instinctually. No, bro, it's so messed up, though, right? That, like, hood niggas has kind of, like, monopolized every form of hand gestures and hand sign, bro. Right? that like, I can't even like find a hand sign I can do in a picture that's not some gang shit. What's your go-to-hand?
Starting point is 02:00:07 You can just throw it at the piece-on. Not compliment. That's that there's, that's a gang sign. No. You put the middle finger out. Yeah. Yeah. No, but like back home, right, like in like a prom pictures and shit like that, right? You can't do thumbs up or thumbs down.
Starting point is 02:00:20 I promise you. Just put your hands in your pocket. No, bro, listen, though, right? But like back home, like, doing prom pictures, we always do like the same shit, right? Like, it's like the, you know, it's like this, right? And then this and this connects, right? Look like, that looked like East Coast to me. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:00:39 But, bro. Thank God the homies from Grapeyne here. Yeah, that's like, he's called. But, bro, we did that in almost every prom picture. And, like, I have to come here and kind of, like, program my mind not to do any type of handslots in any pictures. Like, listen, man, can the hoodnickers please give us back some letters, brother? Well, honestly, fuck all.
Starting point is 02:00:56 If you threw something up, it'll be similar to you wearing, like, a certain hat. Like, the way that you come off, nobody will press you. They literally think you just don't know. You're somebody's uncle. You know what I mean? Like, honestly, you're from North Dakota, Mount Rushmore is in North Dakota. You're clearly on the Mount Rushmore. I haven't known.
Starting point is 02:01:14 A pealing hose. Oh, man. Yo, listen, is Roger Maris, is Carson Wentz, and then it's flaco, right? Hey, ain't, man, shit. Flacococita. Shout to drink. Wait, wait, wait, what did you think about that? Did you think he was talking about Frulco?
Starting point is 02:01:28 Bro. Bro, Nick, bro. Br, they clown me too. Yo. Rob, Flokker came through. He was like, yo, Jake shouted me on everything I love. Yo, I'm like, yo, I'm believing in it. I'm like, then when he played a line, I'm like, they clown the fuck out of me, bro.
Starting point is 02:01:44 Him and Patrick. Yeah. If you were going to defend him, I would have just instantly lost all respect to you, bro. I thought you was about to bed better. I'm glad you were a real one. I should have known better. And Flacco, you got so many people hitting me up. Why are you egging him on?
Starting point is 02:01:58 No, me and AD had the bet. Did you see him meeting? Except for AD fucking drop the ball, bro. Yeah, like texting me like what you? Hey, right? So like we, so again, so like I tap into these niggas live thinking, yo, these niggas, you know, bro, I say, yo, bro, this is for us, my nigga. Like, we won, my nigga, right? We won.
Starting point is 02:02:17 And it turned out, they told each other, listen, oh, we about to call him to, like, troll him about this shit. Then AD was texting his editor, yo. tap into the live room clip this shit and entitled with lush and AD trolls Flocko about this on him out right
Starting point is 02:02:33 man come on bro yeah but listen man I feel like yo I'm gonna ask Kasa not to ask straight you feel me
Starting point is 02:02:43 like did he did like you shout out Flacco because I truly believe bro again I may be wrong I'm susceptible to being wrong
Starting point is 02:02:53 but I truly believe bro that like if you take my stuff slang my because the word flakicida do not exist that's a word that I created
Starting point is 02:03:00 so for him to say my word and then my name come my name and then my word come on bro you feel me you know we met him at the battle hey shouts to where Drake I get you got a baby when last year
Starting point is 02:03:11 yeah be still my beating heart you know by the way shout to shouts to the Reddit and a Reddit user Wild underscore AD 74331 for saying this is the best Monday show ever
Starting point is 02:03:25 They need to keep this new guy in Lush. Yeah, man. Let's do it. Lus, what's you're doing already right now? I was going to say, oh. Taking a little gander. We don't know if Drake shout you, but my boy, Vlad did talk about you with Adam on an interview. You listen.
Starting point is 02:03:38 I heard Adam mentioned me in the interview, which is very nice. Yeah, he shouted you guys out. I got a shout to a Vlad TV. I got the early access pass. But they were speaking, Vlad was speaking about my boy Flacco. That's dope. That's fucking dope. Not.
Starting point is 02:03:51 He was showing him love? No, listen, no, bro. Was it nice? He was dissing. You feel me? Oh, yeah, no, I forgot about it. But, bro, listen, right? So, like, I came to, like, the conclusion of,
Starting point is 02:04:05 if Vlad wanted this, cool, right? You know, again, man, like, I've always, like, had the whole theory of, man, like, people who go in life just creating enemies for no reason, again, because, bro, because Vlad is comfortable with legit bankrupting 17 and 18-year-old kids who primary income is running a 500,000. There's a real agenda here. No, no, no, no, no, no, listen, though. Did he dish you before or after you said what you said on a Monday show about?
Starting point is 02:04:29 No, Vlad dissed me before I even said shit about Vlad, right? No, this is all because he flagged your content. No, no, no, no, no, no. One thou wild funky. No, no, no, I ain't like, when I'm mad him, I told him I'm like Vlad and he'd been hearing all that since. No, no, no, is this like runoff academics beef? Nah, hell, bro. Bro, bro, no, no, Vlad loves academics, right?
Starting point is 02:04:51 Not you taking academics back face. Come on, bro. No, no, listen, Vlad loves act. Now, it started, you know, so like pretty much, Vlad, like, hit up Adam and say, yo, can you tell Flacco not to, I guess, like, cut off my content? My clips. I told Vlad, listen, man, I just won't post your content, bro.
Starting point is 02:05:07 It's cool. I don't have to post it. So, like, since then, and, right, again. So, like I said, this is all about. No, no, no, right? So after I said, listen, I just want to post your content, bro. It is cool. It's cool.
Starting point is 02:05:19 And he's going to tell Adam, oh, I don't like him when. I'm coming. I don't want to meet him in the office. I said, all right, cool, I just want to be here. You feel me? You bet. And then since then, Vlad went back like eight, nine months to flag some content he found from eight nine months of mine.
Starting point is 02:05:32 Cool, right? But it's bigger than that, though, right? Because when you see, like... Is that why your Instagram go? Again, I still don't know the way, right? I still don't know the exact reason since, like, the way he started an interview, I think he did take it out. Right, right?
Starting point is 02:05:47 Yeah, he definitely... A Vladfin is sent the Russian mafia after you. They're coming to the show on Friday. Wait, so this is real beef. No, no, listen. No, no, no, no. Like, my issue with, like, Vlad is this, right? Like, when you have, for example, there's kids with, like, 500,000 follower pages, right?
Starting point is 02:06:01 Who Vlad got took down. And that kid was fucking, like, 18 or 19 years old. So, like, you're taking away that nigga primary income. Because, like, your bitch ass got mad that, like, he reposted a video that's already fucking viral. To me, that's some ho-ass nigger shit. But, again, though, I'm just a different type of nigger. I just work on a different type of time, right? I pretty much told Vlad, anybody else, my nigga, listen, I'm not speaking on Vlad.
Starting point is 02:06:30 People like Vlad who go around making enemies bankrupting these niggers, they're going get what's coming to him. I'm not speaking on Vlad and then speaking on Vlad as wild. Yo, being at me and a Flago is from the school academics. I'm from the school of Vlad TV and, um, Shal's Me and the God. And I feel like a lot of times people come at Vlad TV and stuff, but like his, actual interviews, like the thing that we got to break down is like, fuck him. The actual interviews, the content that's being spewed through all those interviews,
Starting point is 02:06:59 I can easily say change my life is the only reason why I'm doing YouTube or where I'm at and stuff. So I feel you because I'm basically saying he's doing that too. He's also inspiring people. Let's be honest. Like fed shit aside, Vlad is an incredible interviewer. He's the best. To the point where, and I fuck with some of the other people on his channel, when it's not
Starting point is 02:07:18 him doing the interviews, it doesn't hit the same. You know what funny story is? In 2014, I DM, this is when I was DM like Revolt TV, I was DM in everybody. I DM Vlad to be able to do interviews and he gave me, I actually gave me an opportunity. I think it was his dude named Evan that worked with him. And he was like, yeah, if you could get interviews, you could get interviews from your city because I used to throw concerts that we would be able to put it on there. The first interview I was trying to get, didn't go through. I ended up losing that opportunity.
Starting point is 02:07:50 but I can say is he actually gave a kid from like a random place opportunity. I didn't pull through with it, but he still gave the opportunity. And I got something good to say about Vlad too. Even though we wound up like, you know, he wound up not fucking with me anymore. I'll tell. I'll tell. So Vlad and I were super cool. He was covering content that I was doing and all that during like the time of the disaster
Starting point is 02:08:18 Cassidy battle. on the heels of that I wound up getting into a situation highly publicized with Sirius Jones there was a lot of back and forth it would really turn it to some street beef I'm not going to say all that transpired but you had to shoot us go ahead
Starting point is 02:08:34 to kill him or what? He's still alive you know what I mean like but it got deep he wound up Vlad did an interview with me and I'd already been on Vlad TV he'd already interviewed me after the math and disaster thing happened but But at that time, when me and Sirius were going crazy, he did a whole interview with me where I told the whole,
Starting point is 02:08:56 I'm a crazy X-fueled, way too honest, self-incriminating interview with Vlad. Now, everybody talking about how Vlad's the feds, that interview, I'd still be in prison if that interview came out. He said, you know what? And it would have gotten millions of views. More views than anything I've been a part of probably, you know, or up there.
Starting point is 02:09:18 That's crazy. And he said, you know what, I'm not going to put this out because I do not want. You asked him or? He said, he volunteered it.
Starting point is 02:09:26 I didn't, I didn't care. Oh, man, that's crazy. Wait, wait, wait,
Starting point is 02:09:30 wait, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, that's crazy,
Starting point is 02:09:33 right? And who would think that Vlad will give the same courtesy to niggas. Now, no, no, no,
Starting point is 02:09:38 now, now you want to be Mr. Pro Black. Now you want to be pro black. But what he was on? He just said, oh, This nigga just said, where's my camera?
Starting point is 02:09:49 I'm tired of you, niggins. All right, Karen. Fucking flaco, Karen. Uncle Ruck is for real. Now, now, yeah, you just totally flipped the script and invalidated everything you said before. How? Because you're not anti-black.
Starting point is 02:10:03 You're now doing what you're just admonishing other black people for doing. No, no, no. With that being said, with that. Yeah, that's right. You ain't saying shit. I love you. You ain't saying shit.
Starting point is 02:10:14 It's a trend, though. Okay, sure, which you were just a part of. Now, with, anyways, the reason why we fell out, and I hope we're cool again, because this was a long time ago, a good friend of mine who is now deceased, RIP to my brother, Cadillac Ron, from my hood and everything. Okay. Good dude.
Starting point is 02:10:33 He was in, he went viral in 2015 for shooting up in the middle of a rap battle, okay? Okay. This was, it went on. He shot up, what, dope? He was a drug addicts, all right? Sounds amazing. This on YouTube? It's, yeah, it's still on YouTube, but it got removed.
Starting point is 02:10:52 Now, this was a, Wiz Khalifa tweeted this. It was on Rolling Stone. Every major news outlet was pushing this, right? Vlad posted it, and he said something, or no, no, after my homie died, a little less than a year after that, he posted that clip again, and me and a bunch of other homies from the hood kind of got at Vlad for doing that and we're like Yo that's not cool and he wound up unfollowing me and like we haven't spoken since
Starting point is 02:11:21 Yo ain't that crazy that like he loved to post other nigger videos But but then take down 500,000 thousand followers from 18 18 to fucking 19 year old cases reposted viral videos I just thought that that was Very I hear what you're saying he's a hypocrite bro I really fuck with what Vlad does Fed shit aside excuse me
Starting point is 02:11:41 But I did find that tacky at the time I don't still harbor a resentment, but maybe you could understand. He's a hip. Again, I won't speak on this nigga because, again, man, I'm up to mindset, bro, is like, I'm working and building. Fuck the drama. Fuck the beef. But again, but.
Starting point is 02:11:58 If he asked you to do an interview, though. No, fuck him, right? Vlad kept me out of fucking the pinta. I'm always respect him, you feel me? No, though. But Vlad has a generation of niggas coming up who despises his ass, right? Because he's doing some scummy shit right now. Bro, he's tagged fourth quarter TV, one more for the game, fucking Fuchsius.
Starting point is 02:12:18 Bro, I can name you a game of- Wait, he came at Fuchsis TV? Bro, yes, nigga. For what? Bro, listen, right? Bro, listen. For a post in his video, right? A viral clip already, Blastrichton.
Starting point is 02:12:29 Plus, listen, also, too, is like, bro, he gets worse than this. He took down a fucking 16-year-os channel, right? The 16-year-old email this nigga, like, hey, bro, listen, man, like, this shit is the only shit I fucking. God, man, please. I'm sorry. I will never post your shit again. Vlad, Vlad, like, responded back with,
Starting point is 02:12:48 it's 10K for me to take off the strike, right? It's called licensing my concept for 10K, and then I'll take off the strike. Come on, bro. From a business perspective, I understand it. He charged a whole life of shit, but he said he charges everybody 10K, though. Yeah, from a business perspective, I understand that.
Starting point is 02:13:04 And that might not have even been Vlad. It could have been someone on the screen. No, no, no, no, no, no. He specifically. No, no, no, no. No, it's the particular email with, with. Vlad's first and last name
Starting point is 02:13:13 you feel like me right of him charging a fucking 16 year old 10K today He's gonna come on bro You get you charge an A by 10K though Nigger Because my point just don't use the nigger shit That's it At the end you want to use my shit 10K
Starting point is 02:13:25 If not keep him moving The kid never listen no But a kid Again he's a 16 year old kid Right And he's just reposting viral clips That's going viral on Instagram Other pictures posting it
Starting point is 02:13:34 Right so he just reposting shit On his fucking news page Vlad TV took down that kid All this stream of income As a young motherfucking kid. But everyone does that. What about, didn't you guys have a dude that David dude? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:48 What's the difference? The same thing? Oh, yes. Yes. That's the same shit. Bro. Yes, thank you. Bro.
Starting point is 02:13:54 Thank you for saying that shit, right? Oh, also, I'd like to also thank Reddit user C. Blicky 63. Lush, you a cool-ass dude, folks. Thank you for telling the truth about my favorite rapper, long-lived Lord Infamous. Shot the Lord Infamous right now, right? But here's the main difference, right?
Starting point is 02:14:17 Yeah. I love you, fuck up. He said, Tyler Swift, I'm going to let you finish, but. That was good. That was good. Hey, listen, I fuck with Lord Infamous. That's my nigga. Shout out to him.
Starting point is 02:14:27 I never heard a song of his, but shout out of him, right? But like, here's the main difference, though, right? If you're using somebody's content to attack them, that's entirely different from a 30-second clip of a three-hour interview being posted on various Instagram pages like Shade Room, Hollywood Unlock, no jumper, Twitter, taking that clip and going viral
Starting point is 02:14:48 with it, and you wait for a month or two to go by and start striking a take down to 16 year old primary income. To me, that's some fuck shit I don't agree with, you feel me? And especially bro, if he's begging to say, please, bro, nigga, I'm 16, this is my fucking
Starting point is 02:15:04 only income, man. I'm in a fucking hood of projects, nigga. Please. I would never post your shit again, nigga. Please. It's fucked up, but at the same time, you say, hey, tank. That's a very, very good lesson for that young and to learn. Like, you know what I mean? That's the way the game works.
Starting point is 02:15:20 Content creation, that's how it goes. I know what's crazy too, right? He learned a lesson that you should have learned 14 years ago. No, no, no, no, right? Bro, listen. Right? It was like, yo. Right?
Starting point is 02:15:33 What's real crazy too, bro? It's that Vlad don't even know. Bro, like, you're just creating dozens and hundreds of enemies who were trying to come up in this rap world at least out of the hundreds you don't strike, at least I'll say a dozen will probably one day be
Starting point is 02:15:50 notable figures in this hip-hop journalist shit. And you are like, like, like, like, like, just creating enemies after enemies for what? For some petty shit? Man, listen up, man, I wouldn't,
Starting point is 02:16:03 I wouldn't want to be Vlad, bro, because from what I've been told that Vlad is doing to other niggas, brad, that nigger, that nigger Thomas comment. feeling right because like that shit is bro his time came a long as time ago what do you mean like yeah like
Starting point is 02:16:15 and literally that that quarter of a mill he wound up getting from Rick Ross that shit super expanded his empire and profile yeah I heard when he on that interview he did with Adam he was talking about when he came here and stuff that he wanted that they weren't
Starting point is 02:16:31 trying to let his security guy come in with a gun and stuff and he was like yeah I was like I ain't going anywhere if I got my security guy with a gun so if you're going to pull up on him He got somebody that's strapped up No, wait, right, but like, it's past Just like, again, it's past like Just like physical though, bro like
Starting point is 02:16:47 There's niggas like, who could like Just go out of the way to be spiteful, fuck up bit Bro, like, you just never know Who you're pissing off just like, again Because it's not even like Pissing off for a real reason. Like he's pissing them off just to be a piece of shit And to me that's fucked up.
Starting point is 02:17:06 I don't know if that's his intention But I know Gene is ready to get the fuck out of here. Let's park the Vlad hate train. No, I love Vlad, though. I think that you and Vlad are birds of a feather as far as I'm going to have. No, I'm talking, they're going to have an interview and that's going to be the illest interview of all the time. But, bro, again, man, like, I'm just for the culture and that's fucked up.
Starting point is 02:17:28 I'm now for the culture. You're for the culture. Because before the cameras came on, came on, you said, I hate rappers. No. For the culture of growth like quarterculture. Did he say that? Come on. Yeah, he did say I hate rappers.
Starting point is 02:17:39 No, I hate the niggas who, who like scammy fans, which is most of them. You said rappers in general are scammers, and that's what... Here, I said most of these rappers are fucking scammers. I don't use the phrase most, but... Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, again, like... You want to reiterate? No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:17:56 No, no, right? So, like, we discussed the content creators versus the rapper scamming their fans with the NFT 10. And they're both... I would say content creators are worse. Influencers in general, you know? Nah, these rappers... Absolutely. No, my boy is six-nine, men.
Starting point is 02:18:11 Vanessa people with NFTs. And six-nine's more of a YouTuber's than a rapper. Oh, yeah, you're right, he is now. Nah, right. Steve will do it, he is. That ain't no rapper. He's not a rapper no more. That dude, we went to YouTube, bro.
Starting point is 02:18:21 A rumble. Well, make sure you guys go to nojumper.com and get your tickets to the live show is this Friday at the Novo. We'll see you guys then. Pull up on me in the balcony. Yeah, look him quick. And that's the Monday show. See y'all Friday.
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