No Jumper - The Monday Show Ep 24 w/ RobCity & Lush
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A show.
If you haven't already, go get your tickets for the live show this Friday at the Novel, LA Live.
All my Latina Thickams come choose up on a player.
What's up?
All your Latina Thickams.
I already got my balcony ticket.
Pull up.
Welcome, Rob.
Thank you.
Any darker complexion, but actually, I don't discriminate.
No matter what you are.
What did big pun say, I don't discriminate?
I regulate every shade of that ass.
Come on.
Bro, I appreciate you, man.
Damn.
Yeah, I'll be there.
Josh is texting the...
I was going to ask you,
did you officially get your invite?
Um,
I just wanted to know exactly what I'll be doing there.
You tell me?
And, and Josh...
No, bro, because, again,
it's a three-hour live show.
Yeah.
Like, how Yori was like,
how he came out for, like, you know,
but he was backstage
just chilling for three hours.
Bro, like, chilling backstage for three hours.
It's nuts.
Aren't you worried about all the...
Aren't you worried about all the...
The gangsters that are after you?
Nah, not the least bit.
He felt like not the least bit.
Not, but, you know, but, you know,
Josh gave me the rundown of what he expect him to be doing there, you know.
So, you know, I'm now coming and enthusiastic and excited for my role.
You got your private security?
No, bro, listen, man.
I don't think we'll be allowed to bring our strap inside this.
I'm not sure with a novel.
Yeah, right.
I've never tried to get a gun.
in Anthenosa. No, no, no, no, no. So if nobody is going to have weapons, at this point,
it's like, you know, like who got hands, you feel me? So, you know.
Who got hands? Right. So, you know, at that point, for me, I ain't worried about it, man.
You feel me? Shout out to, uh, you know, uh, I know you took the 380 pocket rocket
in your damn, uh, your damn purse. Don't even front. Uh, not at the Nova, but I have.
I know you have. I, I even got my ticket under the balcony seats. So I'll tell anybody that's
going to be that.
You got balcony seats?
That's all that was left.
Yo, I'm gonna be on your shit, all right?
Balcony is VIP.
It is?
At the No, yeah.
It's like a bar up there and everything.
Oh, okay.
We're chilling it.
I think it is.
I'll be out there.
He upgraded.
Shoot.
Bro, listen.
No, bro, like, balcony seats is good because you're not like,
you know, like with the nick.
You feel me?
Right?
Like, you up there.
Bro, hey, man, listen.
Nah, but I might be.
you chilling with you once I get done
done with my stuff.
Do I go out there with the people? Okay.
Of course.
Bro.
You better stay your ass back stage.
What?
I let you know how to no jumper fan bases
out there.
Yeah, bro.
Fan, bro, like, listen, man, like, I'm somebody
who, you know, I'm for the people, right?
I feel like I'm one of the main guys who's
for the people, meaning like I'm for the people in Parliament.
So, bro, listen, man, like,
I feel like people will be excited to see me.
I feel like people will be, you know, like looking forward to it
because if they don't see me at the live show,
you're not seeing me anywhere else, you feel
me?
So it's like, right?
Right, so copy tickets to the live show
because that's where you'll be able to see me.
Flacco meet and greet.
Hell no.
In fact, yo, listen,
if niggas pay for you in a year, you know,
like, let's do it, you feel me?
All you gang members that want to catch this guy slipping?
No, real talk,
if anybody try to run up on Flacco,
they're getting packed the fuck out
from all angles.
Like, no.
I think all the African, Liberians, Nigerians
is pulling up on you.
No, not.
That's cool.
But if anybody come up that extra shit, we're not going to let it sloth.
We wouldn't let nobody touch them.
You know, listen.
We might joke around and all that, but.
It's right, too, though.
Like, there's going to be, like, mad, like, if my people's, like, in the crowd.
Like, this mad Nigerians coming.
Tell me.
Shout out to my niggas, man.
Zelly, K.way, you feel me?
Right?
You know, the whole night, bro.
You feel me?
So, listen, man, we're coming to have a good time.
You feel me?
I love L.A.
I love the people here.
You feel me?
I'm just excited to finally be able to meet the people.
because the last live show
I was supposed to be there
because Adam did invite me there
this was like my first week here
but then I had to go back to North Dakota
so you know
yeah well my bitch had caught herpes that day
so she got COVID
you sure?
Oh I'm like damn
yeah yeah my bitch caught herpes
she got she got airborne AIDS
no she had got COVID
you'll watch I see you tell
OJ the Juslin man you used to sling that work
to his music absolutely
Have you ever sucked a fiend?
Absolutely.
Okay, so.
Here's a thing.
Like a real smoker in front of the liquor store?
No, no, no, no, no.
Cokehead bitches, to show.
Like, I mean,
fiend is a very,
there's varying degrees of fiend.
How bad was it?
Like, were they just homeless fiends?
No, no, no, no, no.
Like, man, attractive females that a lot of people would fuck with.
That don't count then.
But they was, you feel me?
Like, they were in need.
I was in need.
A favor for a favor.
Like Scarface and Nas said, easy call.
You broke the back of a crackhead, bitch.
I definitely got done.
My nigger.
Yo, I love my nigger lust, man.
That's the thing.
I said.
You know, a lot of head.
You feel me?
A lot of head.
Oh, just head?
I mean, I, no, I've stabbed as well.
I've stabbed as well.
I've spiked for show.
But not, like, the frequent thing would be like,
because here's the thing.
If you get head from a girl when she on Coke,
there's a chance
if while you're getting domed up
and this is a pro tip for all of y'all, all right?
If you're getting domed up by a girl on Coke,
she's going to be very enthusiastic.
It's going to be great.
Except for if you catch her throat
at the moment when that drip hits,
then there's a chance that your dickhead goes numb.
Oh.
That's going to, like, ruin the entire experience, right?
But if she's doing crystal,
meth.
All good.
Now, to the point where I'd be like, here,
you snorted off, you feel me,
snorted off my balls,
go to town beforehand, and then you can earn yourself some more.
At that point, no.
At that point, though, if they're on meth,
I feel like the corrosion of their teeth will, like,
kind of leave it to where it's, like, no teeth and just all gums.
When they bite your shit off, too?
No, no, no, I don't.
Oh, they're on crystal metal.
No, they're on my water.
No, they're not no teeth.
The head is going to be fine with no teeth.
No, I wasn't really fond of that type of clientele.
That's why, like, selling certain drugs, I wasn't.
Like, you know, I would prefer to, like, you know, classier drugs,
like cocaine with like a more upscale clientele typically.
Yeah.
But, you know, I'm not saying I was never, you know, it go down in the DMs.
Yeah, man.
Well.
How to flop or what?
Dang, we ain't did how to flopping a few weeks you feel like, huh?
Yeah.
For how to flop.
Man, listen, man, I'll probably, you know, I'm not going to go.
In fact, yeah, yo, I went back in Drake's catalog, bro,
and I listened to this shit called The Care Package.
I feel like that is severely like severely underrated because what Drake was doing on that album
is what a lot of people have been saying, yo, oh my God, Drake, I wish you would do.
Bro, he's rapping, rapping at a level where it's like, come on, dog.
Well, that was all his throwaway stuff that didn't make it to the album.
That was Pete Drake SoundCloud, though.
Like, he took those songs off with SoundCloud and put it on the album.
So I feel like Drake has been part of that song clown wave like a little oozy in them.
So, like, he was part of that era.
My nix.
SoundClick even before SoundCloud.
Sound click.
Yeah, it was sound click.
And that's when, um...
Sorgia Boy got the...
Around the time, Drake put out, like, successful with Tray songs and records like that.
Really the So Far Gone project, which was both...
Technically, it's a mixtape, but it's before Take Care.
That's peak Drake as far as on.
That Piff.
That was a crazy down on that pit.
Yeah, yeah.
But like, when you listen to like...
So you just now discovering Care Baggett?
No, no.
It's like I heard in all the songs.
Right?
But like...
Together.
Yeah, right, but it's a body of work where it's like, yo, dog, like this nigga is
doing this thing, bro.
Like, for example, man, like, and he has like 5 p.m., no, 5 a.m. in New York, I think.
And...
9 p.m. in New York.
No.
No, no, no.
5 a.m. in Toronto.
Yeah, yeah, right?
4 p.m. in Calabas.
Yeah, right?
Way later.
Yo, yo, bro.
Like, he got, like, those songs like back to back, right?
So I'm like, damn, daw, like, right?
You just gave us a little.
Lyrical masterpiece, then right after that is the 5 a.m. in Toronto shit.
9 a.m. in Dallas.
Oh, my God.
Any, and the bridal path one, too.
Any time series by Drake, you know we've been to tweak.
Yeah.
Every single time.
Every time.
That's why I was surprised to see that on the album Her Lost because that was 21.
Yeah.
I think 21 did his thing on it, though, low key.
Yeah, he did.
But I ain't going to lie, I was waiting for Drake to come in.
Yeah.
Every time.
I'm like, because I've seen it, it was a timestamp with the, you know, with the location.
I'm like, oh, shit, Drake about to go crazy.
Because my favorite one is that, was that 4 p.m. in Calabasas?
Yeah.
When he addressed Diddy?
Yeah.
Like, it was like, bad way to take that.
Oh, my God.
Like, that shit was crazy.
So when I seen it on this time, I'm like, oh, my God, he did it.
And then it was 21, but 21 still slick.
I feel like he gave 21 that alley.
Like, that's probably one of the biggest allies because that's a iconic Drake series.
And to give it to 21, it has to speak on their actual relationship, how close they are.
Because I ain't alive, bar-wise, 21 is not on that Drake level.
But to Drake to be like, yo.
I know everyone's going to check for this record and I'm going to give it to you.
It speaks on their collaboration.
Right, right.
It's Drake's way of, for lack of a better word, manufacturing street credibility.
You're right.
I mean.
But he did it in a really graceful way.
Like it's, you could do it in a way where it seems because it comes off as corny.
But Drake actually makes sense in the context of those records.
Like he still go up.
And not only that, too, 21 is a big fan of like R&B.
You see him sing a lot of 90s R&B record.
So I feel like him, Drake knows, like, you connect, like, we connect the music.
Like, I feel like he'd be singing like SWV and certain stuff where you're like, yo,
a trapper will actually sing that.
And I think 21 even singing on the Her Lost album is just showing you that him, 21 and
Drake are perfect because he's a hood dude that still connects to R&B and still soft.
He's a reader, too.
He's not a stupid nigga, right?
So that's why I think like Drake fuck with him.
But also, too, is like he did great.
Because he's from England.
Yeah, right?
No, listen, he did great though, right?
But then let's not get to carry away, though, because I'm seeing niggas on these fucking, like, Instagram pages, Twitter, talking about how 21 carry Drake.
You niggas is smoking dick.
No, absolutely not.
Not at all.
He didn't.
He didn't.
I mean, Drake clearly, I mean, all the quotables, 90% of them.
But, which I was surprised about.
But are you all familiar with the theory of Amber's bosom?
No.
Okay.
Amber Rose's Tits, incredible, right?
If you are a rapper and you're resting your face,
on Amber Rose's tits,
your bars are going to be off the hook.
And then as soon as the warm embrace
of her nipples are removed
from your mouth,
instantly, it's like a curse
and you have to fight to get back on.
I mean, look what happened with Wiz,
look what happened with Yay,
look what happened with 21.
They all, like, have you look at their trajectory,
go like this,
and then they had to fight to go back up again.
So I know we was about to get into that.
Nah, come on, bro.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I don't say that for Wizz.
I give a Wizz that.
Bro, 21, like, already, like,
dropped like a classic album right before Amber Roles, right?
Yeah, he did.
I mean, mixtape, mixed tape.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
No, he had dropped the tape with Red Ops and all that.
But then when he had his biggest commercial moments
or, like, on the rise to it,
Amber's Tits were present.
Yes, sir.
That fool out of a shirt that said, hoe on it,
walk doing this slut walk and all that.
I'm a whole, I'll never let him live that.
No, I'll never let him live.
to.
Nah, I'll never let him live that down, bro, because he was,
bro, that was peak simping.
And, like, 21 is a gangster, right?
So, so see him, like, where I'm a slut to and support, like,
the whole shit and the thottery is crazy.
I support the whole shit and the thottery.
I'm all here for it.
Sexual empowerment.
Let's go, you feel me?
Drop your draws as much as you want, you feel me?
You get your money.
No, listen, but, like, that shit got crazy when I seen bitches who,
like, who was at the fucking rally and she told him about,
oh, I got zero, like, I got zero, like, I got zero.
I'm a version, but I'm a slut too.
At this point, bro, like, y'all just making up worse down there, you feel me?
Hey, all I got to say is prove it.
Why she, why she's the reason about it?
I feel like she canceled it, slow walks.
No, it was like pre-COVID.
So, like, once COVID came, she kind of said fuck this shit, you know?
So who's your, uh, your hot or flight when we went on a tangent?
No, Drake care package is my hot.
You feel me?
Possible.
What you got?
Yeah, I'm going on with, you know, I'm from the East Coast.
I got to go with my boy K-Flock.
He's about to drop actual project being in jail and stuff.
all the singles he dropped.
He's one of the hottest rappers that's dropping from jail.
And I feel like if he was out, we would feel the presence of what we have from Pop Smoke.
So I'm going with K. Flok.
He's dropping that to Friday.
So check that out.
And we're going to unpack this man's repertoire and current relevance a little bit later.
But Kings disease three by Naz just dropped.
Speaking of the East Coast, ain't not one nigger.
Listen, no, bro.
Hey, no, listen.
Wait, bro, listen.
Hey, no nigga hopping in the wheel right now saying, bro, drop that King disease three,
bro, this shit just drop his fire.
Ain't not one nigga saying that right now.
Well, if you're not a fucking tip-dogging, dry clipping, dick riding,
SoundCloud raised ass, new booty ass, mark ass.
Come on, fool.
Red dress ass.
We definitely going to get into is not relevant in 2022 or not.
We're going to chop game.
But I'm really fucking with Glow Realis Project.
and I think
I don't think we've seen
in a long time
if
for dudes and
you know
females to be championing
a female rapper
love me some gorilla
yeah
come on
it's that Drake effect man
like it's her quotables bro
like she just got like
songs for nothing but freaking quotables
which is how Drake became like a surplower
right he just did songs with bad quotables
to where like you had to go to like
Instagram and quote everything
I don't care if she sound like a corn-fed, a cornbread fed version of pop smoke.
I'm still hitting from the back.
That's her fake voice though.
No, that's her fake voice.
Let's be real, bro.
I wasn't going to expose her.
I fuck with her.
But I'm a gorilla, bro.
We see them early songs, my nigger.
You wasn't sounding like no husky nigger, bro.
You were sounding like a real female, right?
With the whole little voice.
No, she had to do that that probably broke her heart.
That's why she probably got on some other shit.
Man, hell nah, bro.
But yo, and now we start.
starting to see again like the like the power of artist development right because I've been told
you she's an industry plan but like we started to see the well how do you define industry plan
sure so we thought that her f and f right was this organic thing that that like just kind of
took off it on his own it turns out there was a label and some power brokers behind her before she
dropped that so you know so it's not really like organic so I mean to me that that that's
It is organic in the sense that you don't know what's going to resonate at the end of the day.
Of course.
When I think of industry plant, I look at artists like Asher Roth.
Remember Asher Roth, the white boy?
I love college.
Yeah.
Like the whole marketing behind him, and even McElmore.
And I fucks with McElmore, so I'm not trying.
The whole marketing behind him was, I'm independent.
I don't have a machine behind me.
Yeah, you do.
When you're trying to, like, create this illusion of being independent, but you're not that right there.
industry plan.
Exactly my point, right?
And that's what she did, right?
Like, again, like...
But we never, she never said, like, she's independent.
That was never, like, a thing, you know?
That was, yeah, for her.
Yeah.
Okay.
Right, but, you know, like, there was still this illusion of, yo, she's just
an independent, grinding, girl from the ghetto.
But turn out of nah, bro, listen, like, you know, like, she already had the team of
Powerbrokers who had that bag behind her and they pushed that song,
Heavio niggas, right?
You feel me?
So, again, she got mad talent, bro, but let's not like pretend like she was this independent
queen grind in, just put out this random song on freaking TikTok.
That shit took off now, bro.
There was some real money and power behind that stuff.
I feel like they were, yeah, right?
Because in the sense of that, there was money behind it, but I still feel like it was a gamble
because her image wasn't something that we've seen before.
Like, she ain't coming with big-ass tities or fake-ass cities, big-ass tass.
She came through a girl that you literally know from the block that you grew up with
and stuff.
So I feel like they did put the money behind her, but you got to put in perspective who else
was similar to her that was already in the game.
So it's like that's a risk because we're pulling on something that we never seen before.
And if it goes, how do we know if it goes?
And I feel like we've never seen a girl like gorilla in the rap game.
Bro, wait.
Here, so here's why I can't call it a gang, right?
Right.
Again, like we've never seen a seven foot six nigger with handles and a shot.
in an NBA,
but we know once we can find a 7'4-6
niggins with a shot,
he's going to win.
So she is pretty much like,
once you defeat all the bitter bitches
in the shade room, chat room,
she's the head boss.
She's the boss of the bitter bitch,
meaning like, her whole persona
is what the current climate is for females.
The ratchet, yas, I'm not going to.
She's the head bitch for that shit, right?
So, like,
She reminds me of a modern, a modern gangster boo or Mia X.
Like a hard-ass chick from the South that can really rap that dudes could actually listen to
and not feel embarrassed about it.
Now, you want to talk about industry plant, CJ, the dude that did the Whoopi song.
I'll be real, man.
That is the textbook definition of an industry plant.
And guess what?
That proves that it's a roll of the dice because how did he follow that up?
You know what I mean?
But he can actually rap, though.
That's kind of like the fucked up part, right?
Because, bro, like, his old videos
when he was skinny as fuck,
bro, he was actually spitting, like,
some actual, like, some shit that's, you know, damn, bro.
Like, this nigga is on par with, like,
niggas, like, niggas, like, you film, you know,
with, like, let's say, Freddie Gibbs or, like,
Jay Cookekekeke.
Yeah, bro.
No, no, he was spitting, bro.
You're not going to disrespect Freddy Gibbs like that, bro.
No, like, he's a great rapper, bro.
Like, he knows how to rap.
I know you academics raised,
but that don't mean you got to get it at gangster Gibbs.
I love Freddy Gibbs.
No, hell, listen, I love Freddie Gibbs.
Okay, okay.
Bro, like, Freddy Gibbs is part of, like, you know, puns low, right?
So I spoke with Freddy Gibbs.
But CJ was an actual rapper, right?
And, like, the fact that he kind of like...
It's a very lofty comparison, sir.
What, to, like, Freddie Gibbs?
Yeah.
Bro, like, go back to, like, CJ old stuff when, like, he was skinny.
Like, bro, he was skinny as fuck.
CJ was a good rapper, like Mims was a good rapper.
Yeah, Mims was.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, like...
This is why I'm hot?
Yeah.
This is wide.
This is why.
He had some bars, too, though.
Yeah, exactly.
He could actually rap.
And I think that's a guy was.
pretty in-the-pocket comparison for what CJ was doing.
Nah, bro.
Like, CJ, if he would have said, yo, fuck the industry shit.
I'm gonna grind his underground scene.
He would have been somebody we consider, yo, this guy is super lyrical.
But CJ had no image, but I feel like Gorilla has all the image in the world.
Because it's like, when Chief Keep showed up in the rap game, he had that certain music video
where it's like, yo, I'm with all my hood dudes where we're turning up, you've never seen that.
And Gorilla has it for females where it's like, 20 girls, ratchet all up, ready to swing
on anyone.
A pregnant bitch in the video, too, bro.
Yeah, that's, love it.
But that's realistic.
That's why I feel like she's very relatable in that sense.
Yeah, all the time.
And that's like the equivalent.
Yeah, and they be actor-ractor.
They'd be like that, yeah.
Whereas CJ, literally, his song was a catchphrase of a gang that he wasn't a part of.
He had a bunch of people in the video that he had never met before posing as his hood.
He had a red rag, although he's not a blood, like all that.
He had a manager, too, that was part of vice.
that was with 50 cent stuff that been in the industry.
I think it was like his uncle or some shit.
Yeah, he worked with Violator 50 cents management.
And it's like he had a plug in the industry way before he even dropped the record.
So it was easy for him to push.
Now that is an industry plant right there.
Yeah.
Glorilla doing her thing.
Glorilla doing her thing.
I love Glorilla.
She ain't no gimmick.
She ain't come in with no big and like, you know.
You think she's going to have beef with a female?
Like the way female rabbit's been going.
Oh, that's coming.
Like she has to have a beef coming.
I don't think so.
I don't think nobody going to want to fuck with her.
I agree.
Nobody going to want to fuck with Gloria.
We would have thought that with Cardi B.
Even Nikki Minaz.
Nikki Maas,
Nikki Maas's probably the number one person
and the fact that Lado turned up on her,
I feel like there's somebody that would touch the gorilla.
Well, right now we're seeing this a time,
like as far as Glorilla's concerned,
from what I'm seeing,
I don't know what's going on internally,
but it seems like everybody's genuinely happy for her
and everybody genuinely like fuck with her.
At a certain point, though,
because when Nikki came in the game,
there was no beef,
and then at a certain point, boom.
No, Nikki had people making videos about her
saying that she used to be a dude,
that she was in a relationship with a girl.
That's a film.
But like weird little internet rumors.
Yeah, people felt like she was too gimmicky.
They had the shit where they were saying
that she was copying every single little Kim photo and stuff.
Like, hire Remy Ma.
But that's all after her initial assent to power.
Like when she first came out with like,
uh, itty-bitty piggy.
higher than a kite or whatever, all like her initial signs.
I remember getting bash for loving that music.
That shit was hard.
And her warning B-I-G remix, all that people were just like,
yo, this bitch is dope.
She's a spitter.
There was a girl who came out and she did like a,
I forget what the girl name was, but I remember it was on MySpace.
And it was a girl and she was rapping like her, like trying to be, you know,
like copy the whole little.
And, you know, the way that she rapped back then.
or whatever. But I remember beef.
Yeah, but there wasn't anything
on the scale that was
actual other industry rappers until Kim.
And then after that, it's been up for Nikki
ever since. And really, a lot of it
because with Kim, she refused to pay homage.
Like, she was swaggerjacking super tough,
but not actually acknowledging the source.
And then she was like doing all, all you bitches are my sons
and that whole narrative. So of course,
everyone's going to try to get at you at that point.
Nah, but Nikki, like, at this point, though, I think Kim, like Kim, right, you know, like, said something similar, right?
Like, about Nikki, right?
But Nikki, I feel like why, you know, like she surpassed everybody, bro, was like, again, like, let's say Kim, right?
Bro, like, Kim was not, if you put a young, like, Kim right now in 2022, like, she wouldn't be, like, a top five or even, like, top 10 female rapper, you feel me?
As far as what?
Just bars.
But Biggie's ran her stuff, so that I don't know.
No, no.
Like, Kim was a way more competent rapper than most of these bitches, bro.
Biggie was running her lyrics, too, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, all these girls have writers.
Yeah, but like, everybody don't got Biggie.
Glow, exactly.
Glorilla has writers, you know what I mean?
Like none of these.
Wait, hold up, Glorilla got writers?
Yeah, the dude that produced her track.
Hit Kid.
Yeah.
Wait, oh, wait, hold up now, bro.
Now, I don't know that.
Yes.
And if that's true, then we gotta disqualify.
disqualify her from that conversation.
No, no, no.
Guy himself gonna have to come down here and show her writers.
Yeah, hold him now, bro.
She acknowledged that she had writers.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
She didn't deny that.
She didn't deny that.
I didn't see her race on there, like, she's like, yo, I rate all my shit.
So she was, she's trying to portray like she writes lower her shit.
So when did she say, when did she acknowledge she got writers?
I saw a clip of her, um, in response to that, what's the dude's name, the producer?
Hick kid.
Yeah, Hick, who's really dope, producer.
That produced FNF and all that.
and she was talking about the session
and how she had writers in that session.
Now, I'll be real.
I heard her old stuff
and she was still rapping to spin
in the same cadence
and she was actually dope as hell.
So if she got writers, though,
that she has to be disqualified
from the Nicky Minaj conversation.
Bro, but like if you look at,
and I don't want to put women on a different level
and I hate, like, gender bias in conversations,
but literally almost all of the,
the greatest female rappers of all time have had writers.
Lauren Hill had Wyclef, Young Z, and Pace 1 as her writers for years.
And she's considered the greatest of all time.
I did not know that.
I didn't know that.
Queen Latifah had writers for her entire career.
I'm not even going to, I don't even want to say some of the other names because it's going to
stir up some controversy.
Let's talk about the women who didn't have writers.
Rod Diga didn't have writers.
Nikki.
Nikki has had writers.
her entire
fucking career.
Safari.
Safari was writing for her.
Listen,
she denied all that shit.
And to be real,
bro,
Safari pen ain't on Nikki's love.
You know,
y'all see what?
Y'all saw a lot of now
when they was like,
well,
how come he can't write his own?
Nah, dude.
But Safari pen ain't fucking
with on Nicki
but not his pen right now.
I'm talking about just bar.
Bro, she's had writers
her entire career.
Man.
But are we talking about
when Safari,
the shit that Safari be rapping,
he sound like a bitch.
Exactly.
Like he sounds,
the Safari's bars sound like if a girl said him
that they would be fired in a motherfucker.
I'm not,
look,
Flacco,
I'm not saying that Nikki hasn't written her own bars.
I'm saying she's had writers her entire career.
I don't believe,
but are we talking about writers for like the hooks?
I'm talking about writing for the hooks or the bars
because I feel like a lot of people got writers for hooks.
A lot of people got writers for their bars too.
And it's,
look,
this isn't mutually exclusive to women.
A lot of your favorite male rappers have had assistance
with the bars as well.
I've been in writing camps for a lot of major,
Three women, though.
It's three women that I know for show don't got writers.
I'm right now.
She, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she's hard.
Lady London.
No.
She's hard.
Lady London is hard.
Her too, but then this chick that I believe, bro, is top three pen game is crazy.
Maddie.
Dreezy.
Oh, oh.
Oh, oh.
Oh, no.
Greasy is fire.
Greasy is fire.
Greasy is fire.
Greasy is crazy.
I was about to say, I was about to.
I didn't know.
I didn't know.
I always use her as an example when they talk about who's like the hardest female
rapper.
Dreezy's killing all these hoes.
Let's be honest.
No, no, no.
She's top three if not top two, right?
Because to me is Nigman Nage and then Dreasy.
You see her hit girl with a hit boy album?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Five, girl.
The thing is, uh, Dreezy's actually been a writer for a lot of other artists.
I believe.
And that's the reason why she hasn't gotten as big as she could.
Because she's cute as fuck.
She rap.
Ha la.
She rap her fucking.
She's dark.
She's, I don't know.
Be real here, bro.
Nigger, she's bad as fuck, God ass, thick as fuck, can rap, got the songs, bro, got some
something fucking Gucci that's like 20, 50 million views.
And she's not as big right now, because let's be real, man.
You gotta be consistent though, because I feel like she had it when she dropped a body
with Jeremiah and she had a song with Gucci Man, but like, somebody like that, they gotta
just keep dropping, dropping.
She took too much time where I feel like it made her fall off in a sense, but her music
is still there, but like, she got hooks.
She can sing.
Like, she's,
she checks all the boxes.
So look, because this is from Chicago.
This topic was actually at the bottom of the list.
So while we already own it, who's the top female rapper in 2022?
Oh, listen, man, that's not even close.
It's Nicky and notch, man.
Like, I feel like right now, like we haven't seen.
Again, now who's the, I guess, the hottest in terms of most emerging artist is
Glorilla for show.
You feel me?
Right.
Like, the buzz around her right now is not even close.
but who can drop, let's say, an album right now
and sell the most or, like, chart the highest like that,
it's like Nickman.
But then why did Cardi...
No, it's not.
It's Cardi B.
why did Cardi literally shatter...
Cardi literally shattered all of Nicky's entire sales records for the year.
Look it up.
Men lie, women lie, you know the rest.
Cardi beat destroyed Nicky's numbers this year.
And the fact that Cardi still could be up for one album five years ago.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Cardi's still hot to this day off of one album.
I think, like, the world is dead.
anticipating that second Cardi B album.
And I truly think when her or Travis Scott drop,
their next album is going to, like,
Cardi B's next album is going to be bigger than Nicky Minna.
And I rock with Nick.
To be honest, I love Nikki, you feel me?
But she is not even in the conversation right now.
I wouldn't say all that.
She's not in the conversation.
Wait, wait, wait.
There's several female rappers that are way,
have way more traction,
have way more conversation around them,
and are way more relevant.
This year?
This year.
Because she dropped the record with Fabio For him that was crazy in New York.
That was a big record.
In New York.
And she had the little baby record.
Freakie girl, though, just went like what?
Number one.
Yeah, come on.
It's her brink.
It's a sense of icon.
She sees an icon where her iconic status is going to propel her, no matter what.
And despite all that, Cardi destroyed her sales.
I agree.
If Cardi's last album sales was five years ago.
I'm not talking about her album sales.
I'm talking about the records that she was on.
Her streams.
Wobb was the bigger record than any record.
That's last.
year, but still.
How not?
Whop?
How no.
That was, Wop's a bigger record than anything that Mickey has done in years.
No, no, no, no, that's like 21, 2020.
2020.
2020.
What record Nikki Miles got bigger than Wop?
In the past several years.
That's two years ago.
Cardi B right now in 2022.
Let's be real.
She probably hops on other niggins.
Again, the last Cardi B saw flop.
It did.
It did.
With Kanye and Loder.
That's it flop.
But what's flop, though, because it went gold.
Right.
To her stand, it's a flop.
Right.
To everybody else, because I feel you, it didn't touch culture.
That wasn't a cultural record at all.
Bro, wait, wait, wait, what did it chart?
It charted like 40.
So that's why a lot of people can't chart 40.
That's not a lot.
To Cardi B status, I feel you.
Party charted top 40 in 2020, Nick Minaj went.
Number one.
But she charted multiple times, though.
Her sales are killing Nicky's this year.
Look it up.
But what about features, though?
If you hop, if Cardi B hops on your feature or Nikki Minas hopped on your feature,
Cardi B officially passes
Nicky Menage to become
Yep
All right.
Over one album
One album!
Most certified
female rapper ever.
Wait, wait, wait.
For one album.
Wait, wait.
Scroll down, again,
it's just like some five years ago, shit.
No, dog.
This is passing Nikki's accolades
since 2007.
Nicky's got a Grammy.
Cardi B got a Grammy.
Furn, come on,
bro, let's be real hair, bro.
Look, Nikki is, Nicky is probably,
no, Nikki's probably the female goat.
She is.
She is.
But she's not more relevant than Cardi right now.
In fact, she's not more relevant than Cardi, then Lotto, than City Girl.
You're talking about.
No, no, no.
Lotto, she's way bigger than Lotto.
We're not going to do that.
I have one record.
And she's hiding down south, but overall, if you go to New York, no one's checking for Lado.
Less relevant.
Less relevant.
Listen, bro.
New York is a tricky region though.
Well, LA, I don't know L.A.
I don't know Lada like that.
She was a lot of Lato.
Yeah, lot of was popping.
Okay.
Bro, she's hot.
Bro, Nick Minaj just with number one, bro.
Right?
So at this point in time, in 2022, again, Cardi album from five years ago,
Watt from two years ago is cool.
But right now at 2022, bro, Nikki Minaj right now is more relevant in terms of music.
Now, Cardi's after the tomorrow two shit, but that's Gorilla record.
Not Cardi's record.
But, no, no, no.
The only way, I can give you that, Gorilla, drop that record a month way before Cardi
even hopped on it and didn't do anything until Cardi B hopped on it.
Look, we can't say that.
There's a remix.
That's something been out, so you can't say that.
McCarty made that record go big.
And she diss Nikki on it too, where she was like,
you get cut up a credit for a remix now?
That's what we're doing?
Yes.
Little Wayne.
He got hot.
Little Wayne, before he hit the car to three, he had a bunch of features that
rappers, if you're smart, you go on a bunch of features, you body it, then you
propel your next project.
And don't forget when Nikki did boss-ass bitch, she got them girls a record deal, so
that shit counts.
And, and Nikki's first several hit records were on the strength of the,
features. Her being on five, her being on five star chick.
Freaky girl by Gucci Maine. Like all those records were.
Big Sean ass, ass, ass, ass. Yeah. So that's her whole ascendance was based on her being
on features, bro. And not her records. I definitely agree. But if we're talking about like in
terms of like a legacy play or just who's currently like the high over right now. No, no, no, no.
Here, right. Just, just who's more hotter and relevant right now, bro. Come on, man. Like if
Nick Menyj just had a number one one song in the country, right?
She was just on the, on the, on the, on the, uh, doja cash shit, too.
That was number one, like last year.
Say so.
That was a huge record, huge record.
Nikki Minaj got gray hairs in her pussy.
This shit is fucking not even a conversation, bro.
So while we're talking about relevancy, um, 21 Savage was just on Clubhouse.
And he said, Nyes is not relevant.
What do y'all thoughts on that?
Is Nas relevant in 2022?
Here, so I'm going to start, right?
So let's just first talk about like King Disease 2, right?
Now, two or three?
No, no two, like for last year, right?
So last year, not so I believe 56,000 copies first week, he won a Grammy for best rap album.
Oh, he won it?
Yeah, right?
So it'll be tough for me to say he's irrelevant if last year he just did that.
However, I'm not going to go as irrelevant.
I'm going to go as it's currently unknown.
until we find out what King of Zies 3.
Because again, we've seen the baby being hot one year
and then nine months later,
he's selling 19,000 copies first week.
Right? So we know that's possible.
You can go from being the hottest nigga on earth
a year ago and being irrelevant the next year, right?
So King of Z's 3. Now, Kenaziz 3,
if you look up its potential numbers,
it's like undefined on one source,
another source saying it's projected,
under 20,000, right?
So Kennedy's three right now
is looking like it's by the flop.
It's setting up for probably
one of the biggest flops we've seen yet, right?
So if Keynes these three flops,
then I'll probably have to say
the nigger is probably irrelevant as of now.
However, it's unknown
because he did win a Grammy
and sold 56,000 copies first week last year.
Wait, before you go in on him.
I just want to say shout out to Nas
because he shouted Draco out on the album.
Thank you.
Much appreciated.
We, you know, the whole city fuck with that.
Thank you.
I got to, you're from New York, right?
What are your thoughts on Nas?
No, to me, Nause is definitely relevant
because we got to speak on like,
he's relevant?
He's relevant.
Because, like, if you're basing on numbers,
I think he's going to do over like $33,000
and would we all agree, do you guys consider
Fabio foreign relevant?
Yes, right, but wait.
He sold $30,000 first week.
If we're going by, because my own thing is numbers
over narratives.
No, no, no, no.
So, like, I'm saying no, yes, right?
But I don't think Nas is going to do 33K with this album.
I think he is based on everyone's talk.
21 made it where everyone wants to even go listen to that Nas album now.
So I think the sales are going to boost to it.
So I do think it's going to go over 30.
But, like, that's what I'm saying.
If we're basing relevancy on numbers, where are we basing it?
Because, like, do you guys consider DDG relevant?
Yes.
To music?
Yeah, DDG.
Now, I'll be real with you, dog.
In terms of hip hop and music, he's probably, like, irrelevant.
He has a hit record.
What?
The one with Blueface.
When?
Like.
I'm saying he's had a head record.
That's like two years ago, right?
It's like, yeah.
It was a minute ago.
Bro, listen, like, okay, so like, again, like, um, Quorae.
Sort of about like what.
It's 15.
15K first week.
She's relevant?
Corla Ray is relevant.
Right now in 2022?
She's on a downward trend.
Shit.
I ain't hit our Quora Raine in like a year since you see.
Because ice spice.
So here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
You fucking messy.
Yo, I love you some fucking Ice Spice, man.
My Nigerian Najat Queen.
No, I am, I love Ice Spice.
She's like, I like her music too.
I don't even, I know I'm in the minority on that.
Like, she got some bops.
I'm obsessed with her.
But.
Did y'all listen to the album?
Ice spices?
She jumped off.
No, Naz.
Oh, yeah.
So.
Okay, the album is phenomenal from a...
Oh, yeah, of course.
But, look, I understand why 21 Savage would say
that Nas is irrelevant because to his generation,
he's unaware of the impact that Nas has.
And even though so many things like, you know,
Nas' song from his second album,
it was written that the song, the message,
was sampled by Juice World
than was Juice World's first hit record.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's the same sample.
So a lot of the influence that Nas has is still felt,
but a lot of these kids aren't necessarily aware of it.
So I can understand why 21 Savage would make that statement.
But you really can't say he's irrelevant
because if you're looking at the overall scale of the culture,
Nas is able to sell out large venues,
city to city, state to state,
off the strength of not only this album, but his entire catalog.
Him and Wu Tang and Buston,
just literally sold out venues across the country
and actually have dope performances
and are putting numbers on the board.
Look at his monthly listeners on Spotify.
You can't say he's irrelevant.
At the end of the day, it's a different contingent.
You're talking about adult contemporary boom bap hip hop.
So for the people that are over 30 years old,
he's more relevant.
And people like 21 Savage aren't relevant
if it wasn't for that Drake collab.
But for people of a certain age demographic, he's not.
You know what I mean?
Nah, brother.
Hip hop has been a rough.
Hip hop has this whole problem with ageism and people looking down on old heads.
And who fault is that, though?
It's, I'm not saying that it's not the previous generation's fault for not instilling
that in them.
I'm not holding this generation accountable.
And I understand.
Look, I'm not one of those people that like Lil Yadi and Lil Zan not liking Pock.
I understand.
Now, I feel like the way that they came out with it with the abrasive language.
It's not popular, right?
Hey, bro.
So look, so like the rock stars, right?
Again, just for any other genre besides hip hop, those rock stars, those like Army artists,
yo, like they would embrace.
I'm talking about they would embrace and ride hard for the younger generation, right,
in those genres.
But the hip hop niggas, man, listen, man, these niggas getting 80,000 a show.
They cracked out, broke, and hating, right?
So, like, that's why the younger generation don't really.
really fuck with that generation, bro, because they just
a bunch of hating-ass niggas
who hate to see the low-niggas shunning
because they feel like that form of art
is lesser than to what they were producing.
And there's a lot of truth to that. I agree.
And then you got guys like Nas who are shouting out Draco
that kind of like basically refute that theory
in a nutshell right there. So, like,
it's all generalizations. But to make a statement
like, Nause is irrelevant. Like, it's absolutely not true.
It's blasphemous in fact, like, you know what I mean?
It's not blasphemous.
Like it's currently unknown because again, we cannot use, let's say, like somebody selling
our venues because again, like we've seen like these like, like, for example, like the
roots, right?
You know, like they can sell out, you know, like a huge venue or, you know, something like really
old, like 80 artists.
Like they can sell out some crazy venue at some like stadium or, what 80s artists can sell
out a venue right now?
Nah, you two.
I'm talking about what rap.
A rapper.
A rapper, L.O. Cool J because he does rock the bell's festival in New York.
L.L. Cool J. literally, what did you just say?
Rock the Bell's Festival.
That is his.
Which it is his, but guess how many other artists are on that with him?
That's not just L.L. Cool J.
Yeah, that's a bunch of 80s are all.
Yeah, listen.
I'm sure Wyclef is not an 80s artist, first of all.
That's a 90s artist.
And Wyclef is definitely not selling out venues.
Bro, wait, wait, bro, wait, bro.
He's not.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, right?
But that's a 90s group.
But my whole thing.
It's actually my point, right, but they're still irrelevant currently.
Sorry, go ahead.
Because my whole thing, I feel like we got to change the word irrelevancy,
because back in the 90s and
80s, it made more sense because the amount of music that was coming out.
We're in 2022 where it's a fluctuation of so much music, so much content coming out,
where I might not know something at all, but that doesn't mean it's not relevant.
It's too much music going out where for you to know everything that's current.
Like, I think it's literally impossible for the human mind to comprehend all the type of music
that's coming out.
So like in the East Coast, where I'm from province around New York and stuff, the younger
kids from that area do rock with Nostil and stuff.
21's from Atlanta.
So I get why.
Atlanta artists, there's certain artists from your region that no matter what you're
going to always rock with them.
Like I feel like the West Coast you got certain artists like E-40s or certain people.
Like 21 Savage would never say that about Outcast.
Yeah, he wouldn't because it's from down south where he's from.
But I think it's too much music.
Because even like all these rappers that are dying, some people would be like, yeah, I
don't know half the rappers that are dying because there's so much content coming out.
So relevancy has to change because we can't keep everything like just because you don't know
something doesn't mean it's not relevant. Just because I don't know something, it's too much
information going on because dude's selling out a bunch of arenas, selling out things, and
you have no clue about it. There's a lot of young artists that you have no clue about, but there's
a lot of younger people that because of streaming services are connected to the two parks.
They actually listen to a lot of this new music. We're just not having these conversations.
Right. But that's why it's not fair to me that at a certain point, you get, when has an
era agree with the area before them or the era after them?
And there's usually a response to the era before then.
Yeah, it's either the, it's either the generations before, whatever is current, we'll say,
oh, that music is trash, y'all just putting out anything now.
And then the current era would be like, that shit old or, you know, whatever, y'all old heads
and stuff.
So us keep equating relevancy to age is just a fucking flaw because I don't wear Team Jordans.
So they're irrelevant to me.
But for whatever reason, Jordan keep making them.
Somebody buying them.
Somebody buying them.
Somebody's keeping sketches open.
Somebody is still going to Burger King.
Like, it's a group who fucks with this.
So we can't say like, oh, well, Nause is irrelevant because A, B and C, but he got a Grammy.
He's selling our shows.
Well, and let me ask that's a good point.
Last year, though.
And he might sound morning gorilla.
That's a, that's a thing too.
That's what I was going to say.
Yeah.
Flacco, like, real talk.
Sure.
Is DaBaby relevant right now?
Right now?
Yeah, I'll be real with you, dog.
Like, my nigga probably got one more chance.
You feel me?
Because Nause is selling out venues that he's getting canceled in.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Again, though, and here's why, like, that's not, like, a great, like, judge, right?
Because, again, if, like, fucking Alcats wanted to do, like, a festival right now, right?
Or, you know, like, do a show.
And he can, like, they can sell out stadiums.
But in terms of to the discussion of mainstream music currently, they're not relevant.
They're in the fucking backthought of our fucking minds due to them not drop.
And, you know, and like, who knows?
If they were to kept consistent, who knows?
Like, maybe, you know, like, we would have probably said, you know what,
but, like, we're not interested, right?
So we can't really use the stadium thing because, you know,
but that's a good point.
But Nas has stayed in the conversation.
Of course.
He's put out records on a yearly basis.
You know what I mean?
Of course.
So it's like, at the end of the day, I understand why people would say that.
And is he moving the needle as far as what's current and what's really popping like that?
No, but he's still as far as the critics are concerned, as far as people of a certain demographic.
Who is moving, like, realistically, who in rap is truly moving the culture?
It's not really, it's too big of a culture like.
But really, you could say, like, certain things like Bronx Real Music, Detroit Rap, you know what I mean?
Like Memphis, like there's certain movements right now that are moving the needle of the culture.
Let's be honest, 2022 is the year of the thoughts.
Every single year in hip-hop history, there's a certain, there's a certain, there's a certain,
certain swag, a certain moment, a certain artist that captures the attention.
Like the way, think about this, like the way when ASAP Rocky came out in 2011, 2012,
like that movement, everyone, like the impact that that made.
Every dark-skinned nigga, but there's nothing like that, there's nothing similar
to that impact though.
Right now, the biggest impact is females.
Yeah, like it's the year of the females.
It's a year of Glorilla, Lotto, Ice Vice,
Thought right.
Like, you know, Cardi.
And that's why I said all them are more relevant than Nikki right now.
However, however, they're all like little baby pigs nursing on fucking Nikki's teets.
You feel me?
Yeah.
I feel like a lot of things that's current too is blackboard because like Bronx drill, like Didi Osama, his music videos, he drops a music video.
He's getting two, three million views each music video.
He's dropping a music video every week where certain artists like the guerrillas and stuff are not getting those type of views.
She's putting numbers up.
She's putting numbers.
But the D.D.O. Osama numbers.
But the only reason why you can say he's black boy, he's talking about, you know, I'm smoking
on this dude.
I'm smoking.
So I think a lot of, it's so disrespectful of rap is that certain people that are moving are
not going to get to those certain levels because their music is, just can't go through
that door.
Well, a thousand percent.
And even look at Young Boy.
I always talk about Young Boy, and we've had discussions on this show about Young
Boys' Relevance and Young Boys putting out videos that get 50 million, 100 million views.
he's able to literally sell 30, 40,000 units
announcing...
I'm just dropping tomorrow.
Right, you know what I mean?
But exactly so.
And like, but if you look like over the years,
there's the whole ASAP movement
and then like shortly after that cloud rap
and then SoundCloud was birthed from that,
like the whole SoundCloud rap movement.
And then like, and even before then it was like trap music
like really rose of prominence on a much larger level.
And like there's a lot of, and drill music, you know what I mean?
Like Chicago drill, when it first came,
out. But all these different movements, they have a certain edginess that kind of makes it so as
difficult for them to shine in a mainstream context until years later when it gets homogenized
and watered down. Like you were talking about that 5-0-4 in record, you know what I mean? And even
5-0 being on Donda previous to that, that's years after Brooklyn drill was making waves and
shit, but it took like a really poppy, homogenized example of it for it to resonate with the
masses, right?
Not, no, no.
It's a picking.
How no.
What do you mean?
No, no, no, right.
So, like, five or four and, you know, like, it's just the natural evolution.
Right.
For example, right, like, we've seen, seen like people like, let's say, like, Pushaisty, right?
Who was, you know, talking about the same shit just as edgy, right?
But it's just the natural evolution of, yo, I'm starting off here.
And eventually, right, you know, by dropping hits, right?
right so for five or four it's just yo bro ain't half the hits you know but you know what it's it's
not just about the content is the way it's presented i think about this dude think about this
and like i'm gonna get historical about it of course but we'll just use like a newer example to
start chicago joe sure sure but what i was thinking about was a pull up with a stick let it hit
like that was a hit record because it sounded so sweet and sublime it was like this happy sounding
record, but he's talking about some real grimy shit.
Now, let's...
Nelly did that from Crunchy Grammar, too, bro.
The street sweeper.
Yo, exactly perfect example.
I look for that shit again.
Bro, that nigga was taught my drive-bys in a fucking.
Yes, yes.
I never knew that, though.
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Let's look at music history, right?
Yeah.
Ice-T made cop killer and got blackballed because it was how blatant and how, you know,
obvious it was what he was saying.
Fuck the police by NWA.
Same thing.
Look back.
So, Cop Killer is essentially the same exact record as what?
as Bob Marley, I shot the sheriff.
He's a cop killer.
He shot the sheriff, but he didn't shoot the deputy,
but he swear it wasn't self-defense.
But because of the way the record sounds and it's presented,
it's able to get a pass and become a mainstream hit.
That's a good point.
So tell me this.
Acton 21 had a little back and forth
because Act said that 21 was not the biggest artist
and over a number of people, including Little Baby.
21 feeling himself right now, huh?
I ain't mad, but
Bro, listen, he's feeling himself.
Bro, 21 is my guy.
I love him, bro, but like, again, like, 21 is not on drugs,
so I'm not going to disrespect him by saying he's smoking at bath salt, bro.
But he's smoking something, dog.
He is off that good, 1987, South Central L.A., bass rock cavi,
if he think he's a number one artist right now.
Bro, like, yo, it's past that because, like, by every metric you want to use,
bro, like, low baby is better.
More Instagram,
followers.
132 songs on billboards compared to 21 Savage, 60 songs on Billboard, right?
13 top 10 hits to 21 Savage, six top 10 hits, right?
So, like, by every metric you want to use, I'm talking about album sales.
Baby sold $212, 27, so...
197 lines.
Yeah, right?
So, like, by every metric you want to use to determine who's the bigger artist,
low baby outperforms 21 Savage.
Now, I hope my brother 21 Savage ain't doing the cool shit by trying to
the cow post Malone rock star as his song my nigga.
Dang your shit, bro.
That's the white man shit, my nigga.
Although he did add something to do it, you're right.
I'm the biggest 21 Savage fan and I don't agree with you guys at all.
Like 21 Savage needs to get his respect because 21 Savage to me is equivalent to the
Kendrick Lamar and Drake conversation.
Nick, you crazy.
Drake drops so much content.
Y'all like him, but Kendrick will drop three or four albums and then you guys would
be like, oh, he's comparable.
21 Savage body of work is done.
definitely better than little babies.
Like, if it's on my albums.
We're not talking about better.
Platter.
Who's bigger?
Even bigger, though.
Even bigger, though.
He's the only rapper to go platinum with no features.
So what?
What you mean?
So what?
You know how hard that is?
That's not even true.
That is.
Jake.
No, I said in the SoundCloud era.
He said his generation.
He's not calling Jake Cole.
Okay, okay.
His generation.
But Jake Cole is, you're right.
Yeah, because that literally happened like two years before.
But I'm talking about the 21, the Oozies.
The 2016 and up class.
Okay, sure.
That's a freshman class.
So Cole, Jay.
Because I think Forrest Hills Drive was, what, 2015?
2014.
Yeah, so it's right before then.
If Uzi Verk is our performer 21 Saturday.
And what?
In what?
In what?
Life.
Album sales and he passed them, you feel like me, right?
Uzi saw like what, like 205.
He saw $2,300 and then he sold $2.35 the next week.
But it was, he was the first person.
The album don't count because he was the first person to actually drop a deluxe album.
That was before anyone did deluxe album.
the deluxe. So that's why that album went so crazy. That plays to it. Now, now, let me ask you this.
Drake puts, let's say it was Lil Baby and Drake that dropped this record and not 21.
You think it's doing four hundred and four thousand? Yeah, I don't know. I think it's, I think it's
a music sounds like that. How I don't know. I think it's doing. Wait, wait, Rob, you think it's
going to do less or more? Yes, it's going to do less. I think it's the music. Yo, yeah, yeah,
yo, you got to care this. Hold on, hold on. Yo, bro, little baby drops, little baby drops, uh,
The last album, it's only me, sells 200.
But the project of Little Baby getting there, he was on mad features, he was on mad albums.
When 21 Savage dropped Savage Mode 2, that sold to 197.
All he said was, yo, I'm dropping an album two weeks from now.
Little Baby had two years of being, he's the number one promotion.
Savage don't need that.
He don't need that.
Naga, we've seen Baby Carrey dirt to 150K first week with a joint album.
Again, though.
What about 21 in offset?
Both, he did the same thing were offset
Without a one and that's a way better
Joint album than Little Baby and Lil Dirk.
That's all the other baby and Lil Dirk was something like what?
Like, fucking like, what, like, what, like 30, 40K?
Hold on, hold on.
That's Drake hype though.
You're talking down on Dirk a little too much.
I fuck with Dirk.
And that ever the Dirk was doing like, well, like 40K first week.
You're too obsessed with album sales as a metric though.
That's not the only metric for someone's relevance.
Now let me ask you another question, Rob, all right?
If 21 didn't just put out this album with Drake now, is this even a conversation?
No.
You are right.
But my whole thing is if he's dropping...
But remember, he dropped the album with, what's the dude's name, Morgan Freeman, narrating his whole album.
Great project.
If you talk about that.
No, no, no, no.
God was narrating that album.
Yeah.
Thank you.
That was God.
Thank you.
The thing is 21 Savage is quantity over quality.
He was even saying that he's like, yo, I'm a partner.
So put it like this, a lot of these rappers, when he dropped mad music, they're dropping
it because, A, they're trying to make money, cater to their contract.
Little Baby's contract with QC is nothing compared to 21 Savage.
Tony Savage has a contract where he's partnered up with his label.
So he doesn't have to drop 100 albums because he's making the money from it.
He doesn't even go on tour like that because he has, he's one of the only rapists that has a 50-50 joint venture.
So the money he makes from his albums is way more equivalent.
So he has a 50% from that album and Little Baby has 20%.
If the little baby has a job like three, four albums to keep up to his one album when he's making money on.
You're just talking about the strength of his paperwork.
No, but I'm saying quantity of music because at the end of day, you might not want to put out so much because you don't,
you might not want to put out so much because it might not be at the higher quality.
So what he's saying, everything I'm saying 21 acts and said is.
I'll say, I'll echo your sentiments and I'll just say,
I prefer 21 Savage any day of the week to Lil Baby.
Like, I prefer him as an artist.
No, I prefer, I like 21 better than Lil Baby.
Why?
Nah, bro.
He's a, no heart.
Bro, are you?
To me, to me, I just, like, his, is, um, my favorite little baby was the 2017 run
that him and gonna have, where it was like sold out dates with him and gonna.
Okay with him, uh, with Thug and, you know what I'm saying?
Him, like those records.
That was like the, that was the shit that I like.
liked the most by Lil Baby.
I'm not a fan of his more recent output,
although I do think he's killing it.
Like, from a mainstream level,
once you take Drake and Travis Scott
and maybe Kendrick and Cole out of the conversation,
Little Baby is the biggest artist currently in the world.
And I always argue 21 would be there for me.
Yeah, but he's at your heart.
He's not.
Bro, he tricked Rob.
Listen, bro, 21 Savage tricked this nigga, right?
Because Twin Hoc Savage has hopped on other niggas hit records,
got these massive top 10 hits,
and got you niggas thinking, yo, oh, oh, shit,
I'm a big artist.
Nigger you're not thinking,
21 Savage has six top 10 records.
Four of those are from other niggas shit, right?
So what's 21 Savage done for you to think this nigga is a top of artist?
Where's the Grammys?
What?
From 2016 class, who got a Grammy?
I think 21, right?
Yeah.
So a lot with Jay Cole.
You got to think about it.
The top artist.
from Jay Cole. Who did he go on to him? Who did he cater to? Twenty one Savage, Drake.
Drake way, they have a record together too. No, no, that's what I'm saying, why did he pick
to do a record? He's a master. I'm 2016. Because, because 21 Savage from that class, from that
class is a very competent artist. Like, yeah, like, that's what I'm saying. It's not just,
not necessarily just his metrics. He's nice. He's, and that's what I'm saying compared to the
little baby because Jay Cole has these records with, he has a record with Little Baby. I think it was
of his last album.
The record he did with Tony Savage,
this is the first time.
Actually,
J-Col,
21 Savage got J-Col his first Grammy, bro.
Lil Baby.
You all think about that.
Little Baby is successful
based on the strength of his voice
more than anything.
Let's be honest.
It's not his lyrics.
It's his voice.
It's his image.
It's like,
you can even,
I'll even say his flow
if I'm being generous.
It's not like because he's his lyrical mastermind.
Of course.
But 21 has that thing
that a lot of rappers have
where it's like Snoop
dog has Dr. Dre, Drake has 40.
Metro, I mean, 21 has Metro.
That's what I'm like, you ought to put that into consideration.
Metro, the last album, Savage Moot, too, that's what I really like that album.
Me too.
Metro did majority of that project.
That type of artists, we don't have those.
And I think the top artists could pick out and be like, yo, Drake is, this year, you
could say when he dropped that dance on, everybody's like, yo, Drake, I don't know.
Who's the other than future?
Drake picked 21 out of it.
He could have picked anyone in the world to do a joint album with.
He picked 21 because the quantity and the quality of his projects and his fan base.
And I feel like comparable to the little baby, little baby's more hot than he has a core following.
Where I feel like 21 is hot and he has a core.
I was bigger though.
If 21, I mean, little baby's bigger.
But I mean, no, today, after that album 21 is bigger.
Hell no.
No, you're tripping, bro.
It's not his shit.
It is.
It is.
Master Networker, we get it, brother.
Listen, he knows how to work rooms.
Okay, cool.
That comes to you.
Because this nigga right here is a master networker
that now he is somehow bigger a little baby.
His master networking got him a whole.
His master networking got him a whole project
arguably the greatest artist of rap of all time.
That's weight, bro.
That's wait.
Go ahead.
Lush.
Hey, right, lush.
With 21 or without 21,
do you think that Drake would have done 400K
on his own.
Yes.
Come on.
No.
No.
When I was 21 Savage,
he was not doing $400,000.
Yes.
He was proud, bro.
With me,
with me,
wait, wait,
oh no,
solo,
I thought you meant
for you picked anyone.
No, Drake solo.
Oh, yeah,
I thought you meant
if he picked anyone
else to do a joint album with.
He could have done that album with
Black Boy J.B
and still would have done numbers,
bro.
No.
No.
Yes.
Look, look.
Drake and Little Baby,
if it had the same rollout
would have done more numbers.
Absolutely.
Drake and Dirk
would have done more numbers.
on GP.
Now, here's the thing.
So music leader, you feel like it would have hit, though.
That's a different conversation.
Now, let's keep that, though.
That's a different conversation.
I think that.
If 21 was not a big artist or it was not quality enough,
do we think Drake would be tapping into his formula or anything like that?
21 has to have some sort of quality and be great in what he's doing.
Absolutely.
For Drake to tap in with him and with the producer.
And that's true, but I'll say this, I just realized,
I had an epiphany and realize how much I would love a Drake and Lil' Dirk project.
That just dawned on me right now.
I feel like musically, that could have been equal or a lot better.
But that would have been Drake helping out Little Dirk too much.
He just, I mean, he didn't do that with 20.
He didn't help out 21.
21 didn't need that.
Everything I loved 21 didn't need that.
So where would we be having this conversation if heart loss came out?
We wouldn't even be talking about this.
No.
But if 21 was dropping a solo album.
No.
If he's dropping a solo album, though, I think we still would.
Now we would, but look.
So, if 21 would have did a joint project with somebody else,
No, a solo album.
No.
If 21 and Young Nudy just did this project, bro,
like Young Nudy, his cousin.
Okay.
No, no, no.
It wouldn't have been.
It probably would have hit, though.
Yeah, it would have been the hit, though.
I'd rather listen to that.
Yeah, it would have hit, though, but.
I'd rather listen to 21 in Nudy than 21 of Drake.
But Flacco, so, so Axlist, what is he had, I'm assuming,
Kendrick, Cole, Drake, Travis.
Of course.
Little Baby.
Okay, yeah, absolutely.
How much did you say that?
That's five, right?
Right there.
It was two more people.
Did he have, um, I, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma, ma'am, um,
No, Nicky Minas, I have been one of them.
And Cardi?
Cardi?
I think Cardi might be.
No, I think Nicky and he's seven.
But I thought he was mad that he was seven and he thought that he should have been, okay.
He was mad that little baby, it was, it was, he understood the people, but the only person
was little baby where he was like, yo, why do you, he kept as an act?
He's getting asked, he's getting asked, like, why do you think little baby is bigger than me?
Like, why do you think, he was like, yo, little baby made a thing?
Am I tripping to think that Megan could outsell 21 Savage?
No, you're crazy.
He's crazy.
He's crazy.
He's crazy.
Am I tripping?
Really?
Super crazy.
Maybe on an album, but on a single?
Yeah, I'm too big going to tell you what Savage's fit for this.
But that's what I'm saying.
See, you're, you're not.
I know all his stats, though.
You're emotionally involved in this conversation.
No, no, but I know his stats.
I know, I'm based, this is facts over feelings because if you're talking about, Megan,
so like, good news, so the hundred care.
I'm saying records, but as opposed to albums.
I'm saying singles.
Savage with, um, uh, Beyonce.
That was number one from Megan and was anything else.
And Wap was a feature,
but rock star.
Megan is,
Megan is going to sell more to him if she dropped something right now.
If they broke drop something on the same day.
Today?
Today, today, today,
listen, today,
a single.
Today while we're in the, the year of the woman,
why it's all about women right now,
she's going to sell more and she's a victim right now.
She's going to be on every single headline.
She's flound.
flopped though. Like, yo, this is crazy.
But she would sell more than 21 in this time.
There's her album single.
Bro, there's, there's, this.
What's the last, what's the last big hit solo single that 21's had?
Solo, but we can't name them.
You feel what?
Exactly.
So today, if they both drop something today.
Was body a bigger single than any solo song besides a lot that 21's ever had?
Nope.
Which one?
Bank account.
Bank account, yeah, yeah.
No, that's what I meant,
banking because a lot's one.
No, you said a lot.
That's what Jay Cole.
But Jay Cole, isn't Jay Cole on a lot?
Yeah, but BankingCon was number eight.
So I'm saying what solo single?
No, Baker Kong solo.
Banking is the only one.
And that's what's from what year?
That was 2017.
Okay.
And Body was 2021?
But I compare, 2020.
21 to me is like a Jay Koto because you wouldn't say J. Cole got hit records.
Like you know what I'm saying?
No, he does have hit records.
He does, but I, um, the last album.
The last album.
He has.
Name the hit off the last album.
Side lines.
No, no, no.
Fuck.
What was it called?
No, like his last, I want to say count it up was probably his last, like, big hit record that he had.
Count it probably.
2018.
You see, but you wouldn't say Jay Cole's winning something more than Megan.
Oh.
Because that's what I said that the core father.
On a single?
Listen, single wise.
We're talking single.
Bro, listen, the single wise, again.
I'm just being realistic here, guys.
I'm not happy about it.
A year or two years ago.
Yeah, yeah.
You can buy streams, though.
Again, no, again, like, you could buy anything.
Yeah, but, though, album sales is my metric to who can, quote, unquote, sell more.
And 21 Savage, last episode, like, 170, 190.
97.
Maxo 66,000.
No, I agree that if they both dropped an album, 21 would chart higher.
Yeah.
But on a single?
Single.
Yeah, I think that Megan.
I gave you a single.
Yeah.
I gave you, but that's what I'm saying, 21's an album artist.
And I feel like a little...
My turn was a fire album by Little Baby, so I'm not going to act.
like a little baby don't go out.
But I just feel like 21's really just an album artist.
Man, free Gunna, bro.
We need Gunna home.
Come on, bro.
So speaking to that, seeing that, seeing that, seeing that, we see Young Thug and Gunna, you know,
they still still in jail with the passing to take off and, you know, all this stuff is going
on in Atlanta right now.
Where do we see Atlanta music?
Where is it headed?
This is the saddest, yeah.
This has to be the saddest, yeah.
I feel like Atlanta's been on a downward trend for several years.
And it, it seemed like this DA is really on the mission to get all of them niggas up out of here.
If Cardi goes, and then if low baby goes as expected, though, it's over with.
But I also think right now is definitely trending towards the end.
But like, what does the end even look like, though?
Well, what's crazy is if you really look at it, if you really look at it,
Atlanta's had a longer run at the top than any region in hip hop history.
Absolutely.
Like, New York didn't have total dominance for all those years.
Like, New York had dominance from, let's say hip hop started in 74,
but it really like 79 was like the first hip hop record that was dropped that was you know actually
charting and things like that rappers are light around that time right so from like let's say 79 to
91 that was the most 92 we'll say 92 but then when the chronic came out the west coast
had a run for like four or five years you know four years and then after that the south started to pop
Bob, New Orleans had a crazy run.
New Orleans had a run after that.
Like, 03 to 05 is like New York, though, right?
You could say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
03 to 05 is like New York.
You could even say, oh, 1.
You can even say 01 to 05, New York had another run.
Because, JARU, JZ tour.
Yeah, I'm saying like, well, that's right before then.
That's like 2000.
That's like 2000.
O1 is JZ the blueprint.
That's Naz Stilmatic, you know what I mean?
Ether, takeover.
That's what I'm saying.
That's camera, Jada.
Kiss had a kiss the game goodbye.
Cameron had a, well, is it, come home with me.
Like, these are all huge records, you know what I mean?
But after 2005, Atlanta was running shit for a long-ass fucking time.
Yeah, of course.
But right now, though, I feel like, bro, I'll be real.
With the passing of takeoff, I don't see Quavel, like,
getting back to music anytime soon, bro.
I feel like, I think Quayble probably going to take, like, a couple years off.
Or, you know what, bro?
like I was making music with my dog, my nephew, my right hand, he's going, man,
bro, fuck this music shit, bro, I'm done, right?
So let's assume in the perfect world, what perfect world, in a world where
Cuevo stopped making music, the Migos or, let's say, like, no more.
You still got future?
Yeah, right, but.
Although he's hell of older now.
Right.
No, but if Cardi gets that RICO, if Loebabe, God forbid, gets the RICO, if that D.A.
if that DA continues to like target rapper
bro with all this shit is going on right now
that's happening in Atlanta bro with like the YSL
niggas being locked up for 20, 30 years
if Ysel is gone, baby is gone
Cardi is gone, the Migos is gone
like where do you see
see like
if you really look at it
they've been on a downward trend and I hate to say that
because I'm a huge like
Fila forever I love Atlanta. I love
Atlanta music you know I've
I honestly believe that Outcast is the greatest group in hip hop history.
Like, I'll stand on that.
And this is coming from a huge Mobb Deep, Wu-Tang fan, all that.
But Outcast, overall, greatness.
They're the Beatles, as far as I'm concerned.
Wait, Outcast?
Yes.
I feel like the Migos have more accolades, right?
No, hell no.
I mean, like...
Nah, it doesn't like...
Alcast won album in the year at the Grammys, no.
Album of the year...
Yeah, cool, but in terms of, like, the records.
Even sales, no.
Ackalades, it's somewhat...
Number one records, Andre D.000 got
Hey, y'all was number one.
Yeah, hey, yeah.
Speaker, but that's him individually, though.
No, that's a joint album.
It was a joint album.
That's an outcast album.
That's only the same.
That's the only time.
That's a joint album, a speaker box and love below.
But regardless of that, like, I'm not even speaking on accolades.
I'm speaking from a creative standpoint.
And just overall impact and influence on the culture.
Because if it wasn't for Outcast,
none of these groups in Atlanta would have even had a chance.
Even in the Social Awards,
It was a South got something to say.
The South got something to say.
But now, I'll be real, though.
Best New Artist 94, you feel me?
But, no, but, bro, I feel like the Migos
impacted the generation probably just as much,
if not more, with the whole, their entire flow.
Absolutely.
They're stolen.
They are all across.
You mean, you mean, but that's the flow that they stole from Lord
Infamous and Three Six Mafia.
Like, they literally took,
I got, I got a head.
The trip with flow, I'll pull up a video.
Which one from Three Sixth, Lord Infamous?
Lord Infamous.
RIP, Lord Infamous, you know,
I know the chat's probably going crazy and agreeing with me
when I say that.
I got a hit, I never heard that.
Lord Infamous, he's the inventor
of the triplet flow.
And when people say, like, the triplet flow,
it's not what people think it is.
Because we just say bone thugs.
Right, that's a different,
they had a more melodic,
less staccato, consistent flow
that went all the way through.
Having a double time cadence
and stuff like that,
that's different than the,
ha-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
That's the Migos flow right there.
Of course.
But even still the generation that they came up in, those kids,
like a lot of people that's probably listening,
don't know who these people are.
So to them, the Migos pioneered that sound and south.
Absolutely.
But to say, like, I am going to speak up every time that that flow gets mentioned
as being theirs because it's not an original flow.
And I'll, you know.
They made it mainstream then.
They made it mainstream.
Absolutely.
Here, kind of like this, right?
So let's say.
And to say that,
And to say that those, that Migos didn't grow up listening to Three Six Mafia is preposterous.
Yeah.
As a group, you definitely saw the group.
I don't know that.
You feel it?
Bro.
Down South?
Bro.
They probably did.
Three Six is a huge influence to this day, prevailing influence on so much shit to the
point where a few years ago, there was multiple number one records.
Sampled this.
Simultaneously that sampled the same three-six song.
Even a knife talk, sampled three-six mafia, though, Dr.
Yeah, right.
Not to mention.
the entire, yeah, Project Pat
and all, not to mention the
entire fucking SoundCloud
generation, all those groups like suicide boys
and shit that made a career
off of sampling three six songs.
Like their entire hooks,
have entire albums of hooks
which are sampled and chopped and screwed
three six like lyrics. So to try
to like undermine their influence, you can't do it.
Now currently I would say cities
like Memphis, cities like Houston
have a lot more attraction. I'm not saying overall
they're bigger than Atlanta, but they have a lot more
traction. Again, like, I definitely agree, right? But like, when, like, we speak on, let's say, like,
the Migos influence versus Alcass, bro, again, even though I guess, like, that flow was not
them, like, created something new, it's like LeBron and Magic, where the majority of this generation
was heavily influenced by LeBron. But when you speak about the big guards, you know, like the
six-foot-nine dude who could shoot, pads, drive, do everything, that's magic, right? So this generation
is influenced more by LeBron. So, but...
Brown is probably more influential than, let's say,
a magicist on this current state of basketball, right?
Just like the Migos, to me, it is more influential than I'll get outcast.
I agree.
However, you see outcast fingerprints all over everything that's going on to the point
where previous to Outcast, there is literally, I mean, there's Kilo Ali,
there's players or so there's barely any groups in Atlanta.
Like most of the music that was coming out of Atlanta was like fast tempo,
booty shaking music that sounded like what was coming out of Miami with two life crew
like poison clan and shit like that they were the first ones to kind of like take an east coast
approach have you know country-fied samples and like and things like that that they flipped and
they created a whole new style in genre and everything you see as far as like people being outside
the box with their fashion being unique singing on records doing you get a lot of that goes back
to andre right there and the duality between having like the thing is this outcast is
incredible because there's never been a group where you had the two artists which were so different.
You have a slick talking pimp, you know, like talking some street shit with Big Boy, and then
you have like this esoteric poet like talking some like incense coffee shop shit with Andre and they
go cohesively on every song. Look at the Migos. They're essentially the same person on track.
No, no, no. They have stylistic differences. They have stylistic differences. You know what I mean?
but what's like the main, as far as the message they're conveying,
what's the biggest difference between Offset, Takeoff, and Cuevo?
Oh, maybe Offset likes Farragamo more than Fendi?
Like, what are they really talking about that significantly unique?
No, no, no, no.
What points are they bringing that's unique from each other?
That's what they, their cohesion.
The points, yeah, no, right?
Their cohesion is based on their styles, and they work so well together.
And I love the Migos, not taking anything away from them.
But even, look, on the most recent Cuevo and, um,
and take off album, their best song on there is an Outcast sample.
And they're literally flipping the cadence of 100,000.
That whole album is based off of either Ray Kwan and Outcast.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So what do we think about the age that a rapper is if they're too old to be
rapping about the shit that they're rapping about at?
What point should these rappers be packing up?
these lyrics because there was an article that just came out and they said that they basically
said that Drake is too old to be rapping about the stuff he's rapping about he's 36 he needs
to what in particular are they like saying that he's too old to be rapping about like the shit that
he was rapping about you know like coming for Kyle yeah just being a bachelor like he the fact
that he's still a bachelor he's still talking about pretty much the content that her loss was about
they saying that basically he's too old to be rapping like that.
And they compared him to Jay Z at 36.
Who wrote that Roller Stone?
Yeah.
Bro.
Jay Z was literally doing the same thing.
He was married.
No, he retired.
They said he was married and retired at 36.
He married Beyonce.
Oh, you're talking about you're talking out as, okay.
When he was, that was 36.
So you're talking about as far as, um, in reference to his womanizing.
Is that what this is?
That's, that's pretty much what they're saying.
Because Jay Z still after that made American gangster.
You know what I mean?
He was still selling dope in records.
So what's more.
Toxic.
The thing is he was talking about getting, like, they were like, Jay-Z was talking about getting married and, like, just the evolution of life where Jay-Z, I mean, where Drake's still talking about what 24-25-year-olds are still talking about.
Okay, so, but so it's literally referring to his relationship with women.
And he, if you remember at that time, Jay-Z was in a sense of, like, no more jerseys.
Like, he was trying to, like, he was trying to, like, that was when he had the 30s, the new 20 record and all that.
Yeah, like, it was just like, I just got done being devjim president.
And then like I got my wife.
Like I'm trying to like be a boy.
Like he was, but I just feel like the times and eras have changed where y'all basically
telling you want Drake, Drake should be getting married and having kids and stuff.
But like, yo, you don't know.
He might get the divorce rate in things so high.
I feel like people are getting married or trying to have kids later, like later in your late 30s or like early 40s now.
But when do we even when do we even expect Drake to and why do we expect Drake to make a transition from being a bachelor to
turning into a businessman and a husband.
I mean, he's already a dad, but why does, why is that expectation on him just because
somebody else did it?
He got a billion dollars, though, man.
Like, he's a businessman.
And here's the thing, let's be honest.
And look, y'all know, I don't know if you know yet.
Y'all know I'm a permanent resident of Jigistan.
You know, like, Jay-Z is my...
Go.
Yeah, he's my favorite.
Hell of not the goal.
Okay. Yeah, sorry.
I know fucking...
East Coast bias.
Look, and I'm born and raised in West Los Angeles saying this, all right?
Yeah.
With that being said,
Jay Z.
Rolling Stone.
Jay Z has never been a sex symbol.
Drake is a sex symbol.
He's still like,
women are still throwing panties on stage
every time Drake come out.
You know what I mean?
They don't, like...
Hold on, hold on.
What was that?
What?
I'm agreeing, mm-hmm.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You sounded like...
Yeah.
He said, mm-hmm.
He sounded like he threw his panties on stage.
He did.
You for show.
Flacko's bruntie.
is off. I'm sorry, go ahead.
No, no, you're right. That was SD as fuck.
But with that being said,
it makes sense that
Jay-Z would have evolved because he
had to age gracefully, and it made
sense for him to go in that direction.
Drake, he's still
an eligible bachelor, you know,
19-year-old girls still want to fuck
him. Why not continue to push
that line? They also have two
different, two different routes.
They do. So why,
I mean, if Jay-Z was, you know, had the
the business that he did back in the day,
of course it would make sense.
He's always been a businessman.
It would make sense for him to turn in.
And Drake's a businessman, too.
Drake is a businessman.
Drake pushes a line for fiscal responsibility.
And like, he's not, he doesn't.
He got his own basketball league.
Yeah, like he's a,
they play the games in his house and he win the championship.
I think if anything, Drake,
what Drake shouldn't be doing anymore is like,
like Jay Z stopped at a certain point,
glamorizing, selling crack.
You know what I mean?
He only did it.
He dropped the soul and pushing
T like a year ago.
Right.
No, but I'm saying like if like right.
He still does that.
But I think if anything 21 at a certain point should, I mean, I'm dragging a certain
point just stop with the I'm going on drills and like talking about this like.
Why does Jay Z?
Bro, listen.
That project.
Jay Z said we push in fencing.
Not finting on.
Exactly.
Well, DJ Kall's album though.
Like the, oh my God, bro.
Like was it caught again like the.
God did.
God did.
Bro.
Like he's still glorifying like the stove and shit.
You feel?
No, he's talking about his past and what he did in his past.
But it's a little...
It's a little bit different, though.
Like, push, like, and Jay making a reference to it and doing a record with push a T.
What else are you going to rap about with Pusha T?
Push a T is, like 45 years old.
Now, he got to chill.
Now, that's an old nigga that got to stop, bro.
He's feeling me?
Like, bro.
Now, Drake, stop with the, you know, you're too old to be pushing the line for drilling
when you're not drilling shit and never have.
It was more on the, it was on the drilling part.
It was just more on the relationship.
Right, but that's how.
I look at it though.
Oh, with him.
And on another note, look at somebody like E40.
E40's in his 50s and he's still making records that resonate with the youth.
Wait, wait, wait, not after this year, bro, because he ruined an NBA young boy song
and niggas ain't going to let him.
Okay, but no, there's certain records where...
He already had Drake on blast on his album, thank you.
They're doing, right?
Come on.
Yo, man, here, right.
Here's my whole take on this shit, man.
So first off, I can't even find a name of the hating-ass nigger who,
who wrote that shit,
it just on Rolling Stone, right?
So lucky for you, my brother,
we don't know your name, bro.
You feel me?
But like,
we don't believe you.
You need more people.
Yeah, bro.
Nah, because shit like that
is just because
when hay and ass niggas
niggas go home
and they see
they bitches following
Drake liking his pitches,
right?
Wanna fuck that,
want to fuck that nigga,
right?
These hayn ass niggas
niggas say,
ah, fuck,
I'm mad of shit.
Put on the album.
The album is flawless
and perfect.
They can't find
shit else to hate on.
Oh,
Let me go ahead and just conjure up some shit to hate on him, bro.
Suck a dick, bro.
Suck that nigga dick, right?
Because that's some, bro, that's some fucked up shit.
Bro, this nigga put together the perfect album, the perfect rollout, right?
Like, went past the expectation.
You feel me, right?
Gave the fence what they wanted.
But hey, nash, nigga, mad because his bitch want to fuck, Drick.
Now he's writing, he's writing articles and shit.
Hey, I'm inclined to agree with you.
Bro, he's a fuck nigga, man.
If somebody going to hold Drake account.
for that. I really hope they don't be put in futures releases in the dits.
I also-slapping future shit on the ox anymore.
I also don't want to hear bars from family man Mary Drake.
Like, I want to hear the flex rap. I want to hear the shit about the bitches.
And I mean, do y'all have an age limit on when a niggis should settle down?
Yo, no.
What I really think is that-
Because look at Diddy.
And his daddy's still outside.
Diddy's 53 with Young Miami.
So my whole thing is you got to come at.
Diddy before you come at Drake was 36.
More power to him.
When he was fucking Cassie before that.
Yeah.
And that's why I'm like, like, the older
hip hop generation, that's what they're
teaching us. Like, we see Dr. Dre. He's
with like April Jones. We see
Diddy with Young Miami.
Whoa, Dr. Dre is not with April Jones.
It was. He was.
Was. Take Dix.
No, he was. No, he was. He went over.
Yeah, but now.
But that's what I'm saying. He's
56 and he was with like a girl on her
20s or 30s. So it's like
that's what we're seeing.
And the thing is, I feel like that
I don't know everyone thought that Drake would have fallen Jay Z's footsteps, meaning that at
36 he would have been having a kid with Rihanna.
It didn't pan out that way.
And people got to get over it.
It's like it's just not.
You want to know why?
You know why?
Because she's fucking pretty flaco.
And that's like Jake got braids.
You see he's dressing like he's talking now.
Why is Drake not allowed to do shit the other rappers do?
Because when we found out that he had a baby, it was so bad that he didn't know.
We didn't find out differently though.
Yeah, I'm a Drake's there.
But that's what I'm saying.
But why is it?
Oh, niggas high babies all the time.
Right.
Niggas high kids.
Right.
It was bad because the whole, sorry, not the hope.
And it was bad because our queen of OVO right now was, was at that time a sladica.
She was in the rounds of portal, right?
The bitch was damn near a prostitute and a porn star.
So what, niggas fuck strikers and porn stars.
That's what rappers do.
Nah, but not Drake's dick, bro.
I'm sorry.
Drake is not bigger than a program.
How many songs?
How many songs?
How many songs?
How many songs does Drake have when he's rapping about a strippers?
Flacco, you know that did you not see that pick last week of him with fucking eight strippers in Miami all with a Chanel bag?
But to get what Flaco saying.
Not in a porn star.
Yeah.
I didn't expect that either.
Like that was the biggest curveball because it's like, name of rap that I'd done that.
Why are we shaming Drake for doing what other niggas do?
No, but what nigga?
Is he a fucking prince?
Drake ain't every nigga though.
Drake is the top of.
the rap total pool.
I mean, he's doing the shit that all the niggas doing.
And that's what I'm saying.
Like, he can't be doing that.
If he didn't do that, I put $100 he would have been with me honest.
So now we want Drake to start rapping about being a fucking family man and we want him to get married and shit.
We want to take about the game.
Why are we speeding up that man process?
Be honest.
Be honest.
That porn star shakes, plus he must have been fired because he did not want to pull out, bro.
It had to be.
Listen, first off, man, I knew Drake was a demon where Johnny Blaze was telling us he was dumping in a raw.
Like, that's what I knew Drake.
Bro, I got home girls.
But he was young.
He was young at that time.
But why you're acting like you niggas as men just be strapping up?
I don't.
I haven't used a condom since the Clinton administration.
Exactly.
I have condom all day, every day.
I've had multiple abortions.
My nigger, man.
Shut.
That's what I'm saying.
Shout out my nigger lush, but a real nigger right here, man.
I'm gonna keep it funky.
Why we expect Drake to not be a nigger, he's a nigger too.
But a point star.
Nah, listen up, bro.
Listen up, bro.
A regular show at three, but a porn star that you could look up with her content.
Yeah.
You ain't hit that porn star.
You don't know.
No homo, though.
I ain't a lie to it was softcore porn, though.
It was a hard part of.
Yeah.
No, like, again, it was some softcore shit.
She might got it going on.
Nah, but here's why we expect more for, again, no homo, right?
But we expect more for a drink because, you know, like, we expect him to have a golden penis, right?
To wear, like, he's not out of this.
You're gay, bro.
You're fucking gay.
No.
Pause.
No, Paul.
You can't pause that.
Like,
gay.
It's full,
it's full gay.
Like,
you can't.
You might as well just say yes homo, bro.
Here's what I mean by that though.
So it's like a golden dick, it's crazy.
Especially when you listen in to Drake DeJago.
Again, I don't mean right that I'm attracted to his dick.
I mean right that bro is so fucking rich and up there, right?
That he has a golden penis to wear, bro.
Like, you can really like change these holes.
He changed her life.
I know what you're talking about.
I don't hear right now.
Okay, but it still sounds gay, but I hear you.
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
No, listen, though.
Like, damn it is Dick is King Midas.
Yo.
Now you're even more gay.
So now you're sounding like the writer.
It's touching, bitch, she's rich.
Now you're sounding like the writer from Rolling Stone.
No.
Expects more from Drake.
No, he'll hate that, nigger.
Yes.
You're saying the same thing.
You expect more from Drake.
And look, look, look, I don't want to glamorize the fact that I've had abortions in the past.
Like, I don't want to push that agenda.
It's janky, but it's the errors of you.
multiple.
Seven?
No,
not no seven.
But,
uh,
no,
no,
I'm not gonna give a number.
But,
but,
but there's some,
there's some,
there's some pussies
that got ghosts
father.
Let's get pussy.
I spent it.
There's,
I turn some pussies
into haunted houses,
bro.
I'm like,
damn,
you feel me?
Like,
you know,
but with that being said,
with that being said,
I'm fin to have kids
in the next year,
so.
In next year?
Probably.
With who?
Exactly.
Um,
you're like,
I ain't born it this time.
You're like,
Yo, bro, like, can you imagine right now, like, the Holes who Lush may have, like, three abortions is now married in a picket white fence,
pretending like she don't got them demons in that past?
Come on, bro.
That's nuts, bro.
Bro, that she got Casper.
Ooh.
Fucking licking around her pussy dog.
Yo, listen, nah, man, but, no, but I don't believe in abortions, though.
No, no, it's all bad.
I don't either.
Yeah, of course.
We didn't touch on Sweetie saying that she's about to drop a freestyle.
Speaking of abortions.
No, sweetie.
She's bugging.
She said she's about to address everything that's been said about her in the media.
Yeah, she's bugging.
But we don't want that shit.
Okay, let's be known.
We don't have a child with sweetie.
I kind of need it.
I would have needed it before take on his death, but I don't want to hear.
It's bad timing.
It's over for, listen, bro.
Again, so weedy, bro.
Again, respectfully, Suweedy.
Respectfully, sis.
it was over for you when you fucked
two niggas in the same friend group
and allegedly fuck the nigger cousin, bro.
We done with you, bro.
Go away, enjoy your life as an IG model.
Fuck it.
Make her only fan.
Pop some pussy.
Show the Libya, bro.
But we're done with your music, sis.
Forget about it, bro.
We're not listening.
Were you ever a fan of sweetie?
I was a fan probably, what?
Not really a fan of her,
but I would tolerate her music and listen to it
because I thought she was a good, wholesome.
You feel me?
Nice girl.
I don't know why you got that image from, but she's fine as fuck.
She's bad.
I love sweetie.
I used to be a fan of her music.
I ain't up front.
I see freestyle.
She had the bitch freestyle.
Like,
I did fucking.
You see,
her music has gotten better.
Right,
you see these fucked up.
She raps.
Does she wear her stuff?
I don't know.
No.
That track she got with Draco is crazy.
You see those,
you see those,
uh, video.
And she's slid.
You know the fucked up gaps in my teeth?
I would floss those with Sweetie's thong, bro.
Like,
yeah.
No, she's bad, bro.
Absolutely.
She, like, I know, she's the-
three niggas in the same friend group,
and you still, you know,
and you know why all three of them fucked her
because she's that bad.
She's literally that bad.
Regardless, what she's doing right now
choosing to speak up at such a opportunistic time
is very, very, very, very cloud-chaser-ish.
Because I feel her, though, I mean, I don't feel her by,
like, I don't feel her by get her.
Y'all don't think it was a coincidence?
Because the last record at the Migo's drop was messy
and it was the music video and everything,
and it was about her.
That was the last thing that Quayvone offset
I mean, Quaver and take over drop.
The last thing you see on the Instagram,
so when everyone's going to check after they died,
they're seeing that record.
And I feel her butt.
No, but bro,
and she had the nerve to play victim like,
ah,
I'll just be like, what the fuck is going on?
Bro, you shoulder as you sitting on a little baby's lap
insane way and he fucked you
for the equivalent of a dollar to niggas like us.
Meaning like if a little baby spent $50, 100 care on you,
that's equivalent to a fucking dollar niggas like me.
So he damn near fuck you for a dollar,
and you thought that was.
a flex. Come on, bro.
She did it to herself. So now she's trying to come and try
to play victim, especially in this time
after we know that you're the fucking reason
that Cuevo and the offset
relationship was fractured.
So which means that also
to take up with nine for the last six months.
Is there any accountability on
offset? Exactly. Ultimately, though,
at the end of the day, if their relationship
could be fractured by
some thought for lack of a better
word, then that really says more
about their relationship than it does about
her. And there's obviously more going on than that.
And they have to take accountability as men for doing what they're.
Or really, you know, set has to take accountability for what he did, you know, in that
situation. And I kind of feel bad too because I feel like that whole takeoff situation,
I feel like it wouldn't have even happen if offset was there because offset is the hood one.
Offset's the one that could pick up, could read certain situations.
And I don't want to put things in there, but I truly feel like if offset was there, I don't
think.
Well, if they were still moving around with them.
the three of them, the chain of events wouldn't have happened that even led them to that place.
Yeah.
So, you know, like, but you can't put that on set.
But you really can, though.
That's what I'm saying.
That's very dark to do.
Like, I'm not, but I just feel like, no, no, I'm saying it's more like, I'm not saying
he's just the hood one that could pick up.
Like, yo, they're moving fun.
Like, he's the one that was the street one.
So I feel like.
Or put enough to know we're not going to go to a fucking dice game right now.
Yeah.
That's not smart for us to do.
I already know this.
The fact of puncher.
Yeah.
What did you guys think about the, there was a.
pictures circling around social media.
It was supposed to be like a
memorial place
for offset and the flowers.
I'm sorry. Oh, I'm so sorry.
A memorial place for takeoff.
But the flowers
that was up didn't say
his name. I think it said somebody else's name.
So the Prince family from
Jay Prince and from Houston.
Yo, that's the fuck-up shit though, man.
If you're going to make a memorial for somebody,
the least you can do is make
sure that your name
isn't like bigger than their name.
Again, not just bigger, but like 10 times the size of their name,
the Prince family, was bigger than Takeoff's name.
Again, I'm not saying they had any ill will or like they were involved by any way.
I'm not putting that on them.
I'm just saying, bro, if you're going to make a memorial for somebody, bro,
the least you can do for the nigga, bro, it's not like taking shot.
That comes off as if, yo, like, we're trying to be like out of life.
Because again, there's a narrative surrounding that family that I'm not putting on them,
but it's currently narrative on our social media that like they love to be praised.
They love Adelaation.
You feel I mean?
Like they love to be exalted up.
And that right there just screamed, exalt me.
I'm doing something good.
Answer this for me.
So when my sister passed away, the family got a lot of flowers.
So it was most of the flowers was like to me directly.
Someone was to my mom depending on who sent it.
Right.
Do you guys think that somebody might have sent the family?
flowers not knowing exactly what happened and just propped it up right there?
Or do y'all think that the family actually ordered those flowers to put them right there with it?
I would assume that they would order flowers and I'm going to make another assumption and go out on a limb and say the reason they did that is because not only is that Houston is the Prince family's territory.
First of all, like don't a nickel bag gets sold and you feel me at the swap me that they don't.
I'm just saying they run that shit.
You feel me?
Yeah, Houston.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, Houston, big time.
And there was people trying to place culpability on Jazz Prince's shoulders as a result.
So then I feel like it was making a political statement, having their name, just let it be known that they don't co-sign or condone what happened and that they're, you know, going to do whatever they can to make it right.
That's how I read that.
Do you feel like they should have been at the funeral?
Because they didn't go to a funeral either.
I mean, it would have probably optically been a good look for them, but we don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
They might not have been wanted there.
Atlanta, man, bro, let's be real here, bro.
If it's already in the media of, let's say, certain roles and things that happen, bro,
and they go to, man, listen, like, they're not having an opportunity to explain now, bro,
it wasn't like there wasn't enough, right?
Right, even to the point where, like, the one dude that was on 1017 that got dropped
when he made that tweet about that.
Now, like that, right, now, obviously, if.
And I know he wasn't even in Atlanta at the time he made that tweet.
He was on a cruise with his family.
But if that's the sentiment, and that dude didn't even know takeoff personally,
you know what I mean?
If that's the sentiment that he's making, obviously there's an air of general discontent
from the streets of Atlanta.
So, like, you're right.
I agree with what you're saying, Flacco.
To the point where, like, when P&B got murdered in L.A.,
there's a bunch of people not even in Philly, Vegas.
Not even in Philly, even in New York, they were saying,
the next rapper from L.A., Snoop Dogg, whoever is getting smoked.
Kenjee said Kenjit too, you, Roddy.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, what Roddy do?
Like, come on, bro.
None of those fools are from L.A.
None of them.
They were saying they wanted to get their lick back, though.
That's what I'm saying.
They had named Pop Smog, they had named Biggie.
Right.
Every time a rapper come out of, I ain't a lot of New York.
Like, New York is either, though.
Yeah.
It's a lot of, like, there's a lot of big artists from, like, the East Coast that
they did pass away out here.
So I don't think anyone's going to do nothing, but, like, they say it for that club.
And it goes a lot deeper, too, as far as, like, the gang politics and, you know, L.A.
Basically, L.A. gangs having such a prominent presence in the streets in New York.
Yeah.
Like.
Yo.
And, like, that's my issue, right?
So, like, Lus says something very important.
Right.
No, New York gangs out here, you feel me?
You feel me?
Like, shouts to them.
You feel like?
Yeah.
We got it.
Nah, because, like, let's just said something very important.
It was a political statement, bro.
And, like, that's my issue.
And in this climate, the last thing on your fucking mind should be making a fucking political statement, right?
Because, again, that's the narrative around that family is they're always trying to posture as the boogeyman of hip hop.
The mob ties.
Yeah, we're like a mob.
Now, listen, I'll be real.
After doing my research and seeing the $250,000 to a particular presidential, you know, like, you know, right?
And, like, a million dollars in end of nation to, like, miscellaneous church.
They mob taxed Romanian, bro.
Like, they got their hands.
in politics, the government, them niggas
mob tauts for real. I was wrong when I said
I don't see any
group of niggas really being mobtized
because the mobs actually had the police in their back pocket.
They're not the only ones.
You feel me?
They're not the only ones.
Mottes, mob tauties for real.
You feel me?
I mean, I know you heard about BMF, like.
Yeah, but like they got taken out quickly.
Not quickly.
What?
Like, what, five years?
They had a very substantial run, bro.
But that's another conversation.
Yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
It started in Detroit.
Detroit year. There's a whole TV series
about it, Netflix series.
Stars for these things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you.
Regardless, I agree. I'm inclined to agree with you,
Flaco, but at the same time,
when there's so much, when you have such a powerful presence
and you're important to so many people
as the Prince family is, and
your name is being used in that manner,
like you kind of have to make a statement,
whether or not it's a tacky way to go about it.
They made three statements, though.
Like came on, like, IG and said, oh, man, we disavowed.
We condemned it.
But then in a statement, he slipped up and let us know, yeah, you know,
that one of those guys were some dudes that, you know, that we know.
Right?
So, like, come on, bro.
Why would you even, like, make that statement, right?
So they've made three statements so far, you know?
And they're also, that's them taking responsibility because, like, look,
you guys all fucking solve the case on Instagram Live or whatever or on, or on Twitch.
You feel me?
So obviously people would have got to the bottom of that pretty quickly as well.
Bro, I see the most eerie shit.
Like I've seen the same nigga next to like Jay Prince Jr.
When Duke the Jeweler like what's like shooting dice too.
And I'm like, bro, bro, brad, like that ain't no coincidence though.
Like that same little hungry little nigger man who looked like he from the straight up trenches.
Bro, if a nigga got on a black wife beater, like while we're shooting dice, he got to go.
bro, family.
What?
Family.
As a black white beater
equivalent to black forces.
Family.
I didn't know that.
Family ain't like it because I'd be sweating
and I don't want to have sweat stains on my bearder.
I ain't never seen a nigger put on a black wife beater with good intentions in mind.
Never.
You feel him?
So when I see him at both?
Man, come on, bro.
That's pretty funny though.
I'm not going to read.
Yeah.
Did y'all see this Dave Chappelle Saturday Night Live performance?
Incredible.
He did.
I'm sorry, not performance skits.
That's why Dave need his damn show back.
Come on, bro.
He's, he's our con-
So do you guys think that Kyrie's punishment is fair?
I think it's excessive.
No, it's definitely excessive and it's like, it's one of those situations where the NBA
they already don't like Kyrie and what they're doing to him is it's just, it's just pretty much just basically staying like they don't want, like, they hate when you know.
you try to be woke.
Like, they hate when you're trying to be awoken in certain stances because how can we
put his blame on Kyrie when Amazon has the movie up?
And not only do they have it up, they up charge it to $50.
So you have to pay $50 to watch.
You came in watching the Amazon Prime and the sales have skyrocketed.
So all this is just promoting that movie even more.
So as long as white people profit off of it, then it's all right.
As long as it's making money, bro, don't promote it.
But as long as you're making money, we don't care.
I forgot who said it earlier.
One of y'all said it earlier that Shaq was going at Kyrie, but the movie was being played in his theaters.
Yeah, like Shaq has movie theaters that he owns, and when that movie dropped, it was screening it and having it.
But he came at Kyrie and not realizing, you've been, you actually put in your businesses and stuff.
So I think a lot of people just didn't realize that, like, if you have any of you, you watch the movie?
Fuck me up.
Here, right, so.
I haven't seen it.
Okay, so like before that, though, right, now, now the people,
Let's say, like, who are canceling him, like, let's say, like, Joe Sy.
And he's a supporter of the CCP, so that nigger
has no ground, like, listen.
And he just says that, like, China's
violation of, like, people's human rights
is needed to, like, keep society
in order. So if that nigger
is pro-China, right, violating human rights, come on, bro, right?
So how can that nigga even, like, make a determination on,
like, bro, it is dumb.
Shack 2 was a hypocrite, right?
I think that when y'all said,
a moment ago is true.
And it's not just the NBA, it's the NFL, it's Major League Baseball.
Sports is not even about being woke.
They don't want any strong political opinions coming off of their athletes at all.
They want, it's got to be patriotism, it's got to be pro-America, and if it's not going
with that agenda, and it's not wholesome and mass palatable for a prime time family-oriented
audience, they're not trying to see it, period.
Yeah, now in terms of it being fair.
Now, here, right?
So what I say, it was fair.
Now, here's my thing.
And, yo, also, too, like, we're going to solo cam at.
Here, right, rather?
I'm sick of you niggas, man.
I'm sick of some black folks, bro.
And here's what I mean when I say I'm sick of niggas, man.
We created this culture of hypers sensitivity when it comes to racial issues,
meaning we've been championing and campaigning
and even praising and clapping it up
whenever a local Karen
gets called an act doing something that we suspect
is white supremacy or
or we suspect is race driven
we have allotted and praised them losing their jobs
them losing their livelihoods.
Now, the book that Kyrie shared,
again, I'm one to think
the book that Kyrie shared, right,
and it get quoted Hitler, saying that the Jews are crafting this new world order to oppress and take over.
Right.
So that book itself, if he posted that book and Jewish people are saying,
you know, we are offended, we're going to take this shit to the very end.
And we want him to lose his livelihood.
What's the difference between that and us campaigning for a Karen to lose her job and livelihood
because she, you know,
you know what the difference is?
What's up?
The primary difference is that Karen was making $45,000 a year at Walmart
as opposed to somebody that is beloved and entertains millions of people
and has a huge staff and what goes on with them affects millions and millions of dollars.
Now, how come there's been a lot of incidents, incidences against black people,
against people of color
and when people speak out
and when they try to speak out about it
there's real no recourse of repercussions
you know what I mean?
Now Donald Sterling
Donald Sterling yeah
did he lose his team
okay losing his team
was equivalent to him
getting three quarters of a billion dollars
Yes here right
But that's what I'm saying
Losing his team too
Yeah not right now
But though again
But as soon as you speak up against Jewish people
No here right again I definitely
Look and I do not coast
condone or co-sign the contents of that book at all, and I do not support anti-Semitism in any
shape or form.
I definitely agree.
However, I do see the hypocrisy.
No, I definitely agree, but let's not pretend, though.
Like, again, you can't try to claim that a Karen and people like Kyrie and Kanye,
that you can't, that's not mutually exclusive.
That's not mutually exclusive.
No, no, no.
And here's why I see no difference, though.
If a person who's working at a 9-to-5 lose their livelihoods and we are over.
okay with it that, yo, that, again,
they're risking the chance of going bankrupt and homeless.
Again, let's be real here, bro.
The only difference between what the Jews is doing
and what we're doing is we have
that we don't have that much power.
We have recognized that we don't have the power
to truly cancel a nigga.
What they're doing, that's truly canceling a nigga.
They can take away your everything.
We don't got that power and we're fucking jealous.
And that's it.
We're fucking jealous of it.
And the thing is...
And if we had that power, bro,
we do the exact same shit to them racist motherfuck.
But the thing is,
But the thing is, too, the difference is between a Karen and a Kyrie situation is a Karen history for some part didn't go through slavery.
I feel like with blacks, we've been through slavery and stuff.
So it's like there's two hurt people.
It's like, yo, Kyrie to me is like, how could I be racist if I'm black?
Like, I feel like a lot of people are like, how could I be racist if I'm black?
Like, we've been being ridiculed our whole lives and stuff.
So I feel like it's too hurt people arguing with each other because for us, we've been a person.
We're going to press our whole life and we feel like where it comes to the Jewish community
that we respect what they've been through and stuff.
But when people come at us, people don't look at our pain the same way as they look at their
pain.
When it's like, oh, the Holocaust, this and that, but like, yeah, we were in slavery for a hundred years.
So we're both hurt individuals.
And I feel like the difference between the Karen and the Kyrie is Kyrie comes from PTSD
history of some black people being in slavery.
Now, to be fair, I agree with what you said, but to be fair.
Jews have been oppressed for thousands of years as well.
They've been literally ran out of, I think, over 70 countries, you know what I mean?
Over the course of history.
Now, something that you never take into account when having this type of dialogue is systemic oppression.
And the fact that when Jews are doing that, or just like, I don't even want to say Jews,
I'll say, you know, the ruling class, which is predominantly white,
and happens to have a Jewish influence in it predominantly, predominantly that,
that it has a much
different accent and the effects are a lot
more definite than when it's
than when black people do it.
Here, yes. You feel what I'm saying?
Yeah, but again, like we're
speaking on fair, right, which I'm speaking
on like the action. Like, again, for example,
black people are saying, damn, right? Like, we're feeling
choked up by this particular group.
But again, black folks have
created this, you know, this culture
of hypersensitivity when it comes to racial issues
to wear, bro. There are white folks
walking on eggshell thinking damn bro like there's certain shit that i can't say because i say this
i'm a fucking racist right we created that shit right right no no wait right no that was created as a
response to yeah yeah they're walking that wasn't out of no you know them walking on eggshells i think
the intent with the the whole karen thing that their intent is different so a karen is going to
walk into a park and see a black person just enjoying a fucking lunch and oh this person shouldn't
be here cause the police i'm being harassed by this this this
black men and da-da-da-da-da-da what happens when the police are called for black men they
don't ask no questions they pull up they shoot so that's why i think the intent would a caring is
different here no right okay so so uh this dude backs the blue fully so you're like that point's not
gonna resonate with no no no no you y'all get what i'm saying i is 1,000 percent i agree no no
1,000 percent no no right but let's do do the opposite of what kairi did let's say there
was a star athlete, a white star athlete who posted a book quoting the KKK trying to prove
why blacks are inferior, right?
If a white athlete posted that book, all you niggas would be marching on fucking streets
with your marching boots and your Negro spirituals in hand asking for that nigga to lose
his job and livelihood.
And I can tell you exactly how that would end for that white man.
He would not lose his job.
He would probably be suspended.
We're jealous.
He would probably be suspended.
He would be back on a.
court next three games.
That's my point, though. Wait, though.
That's my point, though. We're not mad at
that action. We don't think that
that shit is too far. We don't think that shit is
unfair. We just mad that we don't got
the power to do what they can do. That's about
it, right? No. No, no. And then I can tell you how it would be
for black people. Yeah, we're not consistent.
So we're going to cancel somebody. We'll be
over them for a month or a week. They'll fade out.
Somebody a rapper or a die or something like that. We won't
even be talking about it no more. So that call
action won't even need to happen because we're just going to
over it.
If Tom Brady did what you just said, he would be forgiven.
Justin Bieber came up.
We would have forgiven.
We do.
Black people forgive.
Black people forgive.
We do.
That's the thing.
We forgive quicker than white people do.
And that's the flaw.
Black people forgive.
Justin Bieber did a whole clip singing, yo, one last lonely nigga, the whole thing.
Hard art.
Hard, nigger.
We all fucking with him.
We all forgive him.
He's not canceled.
That's all of a year, though, right?
Like he did that at like 10 years old.
We back shot.
We're stopping at H&M.
We back drifting Gucci.
Like, we're not consistent.
Louis Vuitton.
Yeah, we're back.
Gucci.
Louis,
all those are been.
So black people would have forgiven already.
By this point,
we wouldn't even be talking about this anymore.
Black people would have already forgiven a nigga.
And nothing would have happened.
Bro,
we cheered and,
bro,
we were happy and exuberant whenever we hear a Karen lost their job.
We are four people losing a job for being racially insensitive.
If they are for that.
Bro,
whatever happened to black people boycott.
the NFL, how'd that turn out?
Bro, niggas aren't inconsistent.
Bro, bro, listen, like, again, right, that's it, right?
But let's not as niggas act like,
oh, we are so against people losing their livelihood
for being racially insensitive.
Our history tells us we are all for that
so they don't complain when these niggas
are, or, again, got their foot on Kyrie Irvin's neck
for him being racially insensitive.
Regardless of that, like, even if you're right,
which there's a lot of flaws in what you said,
although you do have some substantial points as well,
regardless of that
I think that's
for literally sharing a link
that's a very excessive
like
Yeah because what you're saying
is Karen does all that
Kyrie just shared a link
let's say someone just shared a link
they would not go through all that issue
If Tom Brady shared a link to a book
where KKK
is being quoted for while we are inferior
but you can't
That shit will get fired
That book is not from a KKK member
so I don't think we can say that
No no no no no no wait
But though
it's from a black man quote
and Hitler to prove why the Jews are trying to form a new world order to oppress and why the Jews are Satan's and our enemies, bro.
That book is saying that, right?
So again, though, if that shit is saying that, that's the exact same and same as a KKK member saying the opposite.
And I'm saying, again, to me, Kyrie Irvin's punishment is excessive to me, but in terms of being fair.
Okay, so we agree.
It's excessive.
Here, right?
Like, again, like, I wouldn't give them that.
Me, right?
But if I'm Jewish, how can me as a black man tell a Jewish person, yo, y'all are going too fucking far.
Y'all are tripping when I know that my people would have done the exact same thing if we had the power to do so.
It's just like there's a lot more to it than that.
And black people don't have the power to do so.
And if we really did have the power, I don't believe we would do it.
You crazy.
No, we're forgiven.
The black culture is very forgiven, bro.
The black community forgave our kids.
Yeah, we forgave everybody.
Bill Cod, like name them.
Whoever it is, we forget.
Listen, bro, we are the number one race betas.
Period.
What does that mean?
Break it down.
Bro, we love to make everything about, listen that, bro.
A motherfucker with no GED, no communication skills, no education, no skills will go
apply to a job at a fucking banking firm.
Don't get it and say, damn, bro, they focus on black.
Bro, we are the biggest race baiters on earth, right?
So you don't think.
So there's the same scenario you said, there's a bunch of white people,
you can say poor white people that apply the jobs and be like,
yo, I just didn't get this job because I ain't black.
Because of affirmative action.
Yeah, because I ain't black.
And it's way more of them.
There's way more white people on welfare than black people.
That's what I'm saying.
So there's a lot more poor white people that are saying,
I'm only poor because black people.
The same way you're saying that.
And that's more of them saying that than we are saying that.
Bro, let's be real here, bro.
Niggas love making everything about race.
Niggas love making.
White people are too.
The reason why they're behind.
Look, let come on, brother.
But it is, though.
When I walked down the street, come on.
I went to interviews and stuff.
Like, I would literally have to put on a suit, put on glasses to look the most unfraining
as possible where I feel like the other counterparts, they don't have to do that.
And that does play a role because people do look at black people a certain way.
So I feel like that you can't take that away.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And at the end of the day,
Flacco, are you not a black man that supports Donald Trump?
Has there not been a lot of discussion around Donald Trump
and his views on the black community?
You think you're the only black person that fuck with Trump?
So I feel like I fuck with Trump for a different reason, right?
So here's my fault with Trump, right?
But that's the whole point, though.
You're able to look past what a lot of people view as potentially,
and I'm not going to even put that on it,
but I'm going to say a lot of people view Donald Trump
at best as racially divisive
and at worst as a racist himself.
And there's still a lot of support for him
in the black community because of what he does economically.
But to me, everyone in politics,
like, majority Democrats are Republicans.
For sure.
For sure.
So I feel like...
For sure.
Like, look, look, Bill Clinton
literally finessed the entire black community
by playing a fucking saxophone
on Arsenio Hall
and thinking that he was for them
and then proceeded to incarcerate
more minorities than any president in American history.
So you're right.
It's not just mutually exclusive to the Republicans.
Wait, though.
Here's a difference, though.
Now, there's one party who is absolutely our enemy,
and they have proven a B.R.
The Democrats, you're going to say.
Right.
And here's why.
So right now, I guess like the big issue right now,
currently in the States, is free speech, right?
And the very same people who are telling us
that, yo, these private social media
companies have have every right to discriminate
and get riddy motherfuckers or the same
motherfuckers who told us in the
60s these private bars
these private nightclubs got every right
to kick your black ass out if they don't
want any niggas in their place right
so this party
has been consistent
they've been consistent being against
human rights being against black folks
so me personally as a black man
I cannot just
consciously but as far as
like I feel that and you're right about all that
but as far as redistribution of wealth, as far as, like, it goes both ways.
There's a lot of the left-leaning that more favors certain social issues that benefit
black people and other minorities way more than the way Republicans look at it.
So they're both fucked up.
They're both enemies of disenfranchised people.
I look at it like a girl.
Like, is either you're going to get your girl that cheats on you in front of your face or the one
that cheats on you behind your back.
Do you want to grow with no ass or small tities?
You know what I mean?
Or an ugly face or no ass.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, bro.
But like, again, I don't feel like because the Democrats are, I guess, more prone to giving
niggas free shit, right?
That's like, we should support them.
You feel like me?
Right.
So again, like, I truly believe, bro, that like there's truly only one enemy when it comes
to us and that's Democrats.
I think everybody.
That's our only, nah, bro.
The Republicans, the Democrats, they all got the order to do this.
For the last, what, like 400 years,
them niggas have been consistent with,
we want to do whatever we can to make sure these niggas don't rise up.
Okay, but what about the 1980s when we're under conservative rule?
And literally, that's like the Iran contra, like crack cocaine being literally planted
in the inner cities of America to fund overseas wars and terrorist organizations.
George Bush, the first one, war on drugs.
Come on, bro.
They both.
Come on, bro.
Wait, though.
On drugs, 80s.
Come on.
Did y'all vote?
No.
Wait, the hood up now, bro.
Did you?
No.
Again, I've never voted.
I'm registered.
I voted twice.
I voted twice.
I know.
Twice.
That's it.
The only time I voted.
You voted twice?
I, I'm lying.
I did vote.
Obama.
I voted Obama.
I voted Obama second term.
I voted Obama second term.
I was old enough.
Wait.
Hey, how old are you?
Me?
No, you?
I'm 30.
How you?
Because I, oh, shit.
She was 18 when he voted his first time.
Yeah.
So it was the second time that, uh,
2012.
That's when a lot of people voted for the first time.
A lot of the you.
And that was the last time I voted.
You niggas got real political.
Yeah, man.
You need you.
Y'all turned.
Hey, I'm sure to go on record.
I want to go on record and say,
I like this.
course between the four of us.
I think that's pretty solid.
Yeah.
Well, that's the Monday show.
Make sure you guys go to...
Wait a sec.
Real quick.
Hey, it's in 56.
So we still got four minutes.
But, no, yeah, so real quick.
Real quick.
Let's have fun, all right?
All right.
Flacco was telling us that he was pulling bitches on Venice Beach.
Oh, at the Venice Beach with you.
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I never said pulling bitches.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
He said all the bitches was on him.
Look, I'm sorry, Flacco's imaginary.
girlfriend, all right?
Like, I'm sorry.
I know you're not pulling holes.
Black man don't cheat.
He's got a 48-year-old
Pakistani man catfishing him right now.
I don't want to fucking throw
Bishir off.
Send him to them toflare bag.
So, but I heard that
my man Rob was present
for a gaggle of young
tenders choosing up
on the Thymaster himself.
So we went to Venice Beach.
I think it was a Drake job.
Honestly, never mind.
So we went out there to like test out.
I had a thighs out too.
To let the people know how they feel about the album.
And what I could say is that believe it or not,
Flocko's personality is very intriguing to females.
The way when we put up to serve.
Yeah, like he's himself and he's very confident and he's halathing.
He's like, what type of bitches?
What type of bitch?
I don't stutter around holes.
You didn't stutter once this entire show.
Okay, yeah, man.
Hey, listen.
He don't really stutter around me.
There is.
But around the bitches, though, listen.
Like, you got to control that shit.
my nicked. Like, you can't go off to no bitch like,
I, nah, blah, blah, blah.
I was, if we had been mean to you,
you would have been stuttering. I think that there's like
when he gets mad, he starts stuttering. There's a connection there.
He was mad today, but we
weren't being mean, so there's less
stuttering. I see a psychological
tick right there. Now, with that being said,
to reiterate Gina's
question, what type of bitches
was on? It was a beautiful black
woman. Was it? Would you date the bitches
I was on him? Yeah, I would.
You slid on them? No, I didn't. They were,
They were, they were with guys too.
So it was like, they were with guys on them too?
No, no, they were like, we stopped people.
They were with a group of guys too, so type of thing.
So that's why we didn't pull up on them.
But multiple ones that we went to, they wouldn't.
And the thing that surprised me is like that was the first time me going on in public with flaco.
And the flag that flaco, no matter who he's around, he's going to be flaco.
That's a day that I really respect the flogical because I'm like, yo, he's not going to switch up.
He's not going to change it.
He's going to be entertaining around everybody.
And that's what I realized girls.
Was it also, were they, did they recognize them from No Jumper and was that?
It was early, it was like, this was like probably June or May.
It was mad early.
Yeah.
So I was in New Jones.
Is this if he goes now, he wouldn't, he would get stopped like.
Is this pre-Spitgate?
Yeah, oh yeah, it was.
Pre-spick gate.
Yeah, like it was like, it was like, it was like, first week here though, right?
It was like, okay, I came like November 11th.
It was like.
So in other words, last week you reported on some shit that was six months ago.
What happened?
Once the last time he was, but yes.
I thought the shit had just had me.
The way he said, I was at the beach with RTTV.
But that's the last time he was out in public probably.
No, Flago need to go out with this again.
I just make sure Flago ain't scared.
No, we was at the fucking, like, no, at the vegan restaurant like last month.
Oh, yeah, we went to somewhere.
Yeah, like somewhere.
And Silver Lake.
Okay.
Near Compton, right?
No.
The fuck?
Silver Lake is not there.
Silver Lake is not there, Compton?
I asked you to go to, what's that thing, Julie and Compton with me.
I was in Compton.
Silver leg near Compton is crazy.
Hey, you're good in my hood.
I got you.
Yo, listen.
Slide through the Clamson.
We got you.
Yo, listen, like, seeing lush, like,
throw up his hood is the best shit in the world.
I'm throwing at the beginning, man.
What?
Woo!
Listen, oh, man, listen.
You got what?
I do that instinctually.
No, bro, it's so messed up, though, right?
That, like, hood niggas has kind of, like,
monopolized every form of hand gestures and hand sign, bro.
Right?
that like, I can't even like find a hand sign I can do in a picture that's not some gang shit.
What's your go-to-hand?
You can just throw it at the piece-on.
Not compliment.
That's that there's, that's a gang sign.
No.
You put the middle finger out.
Yeah.
Yeah. No, but like back home, right, like in like a prom pictures and shit like that, right?
You can't do thumbs up or thumbs down.
I promise you.
Just put your hands in your pocket.
No, bro, listen, though, right?
But like back home, like, doing prom pictures, we always do like the same shit, right?
Like, it's like the, you know, it's like this, right?
And then this and this connects, right?
Look like, that looked like East Coast to me.
Yeah, absolutely.
But, bro.
Thank God the homies from Grapeyne here.
Yeah, that's like, he's called.
But, bro, we did that in almost every prom picture.
And, like, I have to come here and kind of, like, program my mind not to do any type
of handslots in any pictures.
Like, listen, man, can the hoodnickers please give us back some letters, brother?
Well, honestly, fuck all.
If you threw something up, it'll be similar to you wearing, like, a certain hat.
Like, the way that you come off, nobody will press you.
They literally think you just don't know.
You're somebody's uncle.
You know what I mean?
Like, honestly, you're from North Dakota, Mount Rushmore is in North Dakota.
You're clearly on the Mount Rushmore.
I haven't known.
A pealing hose.
Oh, man.
Yo, listen, is Roger Maris, is Carson Wentz, and then it's flaco, right?
Hey, ain't, man, shit.
Flacococita.
Shout to drink.
Wait, wait, wait, what did you think about that?
Did you think he was talking about Frulco?
Bro.
Bro, Nick, bro.
Br, they clown me too.
Yo.
Rob, Flokker came through.
He was like, yo, Jake shouted me on everything I love.
Yo, I'm like, yo, I'm believing in it.
I'm like, then when he played a line, I'm like, they clown the fuck out of me, bro.
Him and Patrick.
Yeah.
If you were going to defend him, I would have just instantly lost all respect to you, bro.
I thought you was about to bed better.
I'm glad you were a real one.
I should have known better.
And Flacco, you got so many people hitting me up.
Why are you egging him on?
No, me and AD had the bet.
Did you see him meeting?
Except for AD fucking drop the ball, bro.
Yeah, like texting me like what you?
Hey, right?
So like we, so again, so like I tap into these niggas live thinking, yo, these niggas, you know, bro, I say, yo, bro, this is for us, my nigga.
Like, we won, my nigga, right?
We won.
And it turned out, they told each other, listen, oh, we about to call him to, like, troll him about this shit.
Then AD was texting his editor, yo.
tap into the live room
clip this shit
and entitled with
lush and AD trolls
Flocko about this on him out
right
man come on
bro yeah but listen
man
I feel like
yo
I'm gonna ask Kasa
not to ask straight
you feel me
like
did he did
like you shout out
Flacco
because I truly believe
bro
again I may be wrong
I'm susceptible to being wrong
but I truly believe
bro
that like if you take
my stuff
slang my
because the word
flakicida do not exist
that's a word that I created
so for him to say my word
and then my name come
my name and then my word come on bro
you feel me you know we met him at the battle
hey shouts to
where Drake
I get you got a baby
when last year
yeah
be still my beating heart
you know by the way
shout to shouts to the Reddit
and a Reddit user
Wild underscore AD 74331
for saying this is the best Monday show
ever
They need to keep this new guy in Lush.
Yeah, man.
Let's do it.
Lus, what's you're doing already right now?
I was going to say, oh.
Taking a little gander.
We don't know if Drake shout you, but my boy, Vlad did talk about you with Adam on an interview.
You listen.
I heard Adam mentioned me in the interview, which is very nice.
Yeah, he shouted you guys out.
I got a shout to a Vlad TV.
I got the early access pass.
But they were speaking, Vlad was speaking about my boy Flacco.
That's dope.
That's fucking dope.
Not.
He was showing him love?
No, listen, no, bro.
Was it nice?
He was dissing.
You feel me?
Oh, yeah, no, I forgot about it.
But, bro, listen, right?
So, like, I came to, like, the conclusion of,
if Vlad wanted this, cool, right?
You know, again, man, like, I've always, like, had the whole theory of, man,
like, people who go in life just creating enemies for no reason,
again, because, bro, because Vlad is comfortable with legit bankrupting 17 and 18-year-old kids
who primary income is running a 500,000.
There's a real agenda here.
No, no, no, no, no, no, listen, though.
Did he dish you before or after you said what you said on a Monday show about?
No, Vlad dissed me before I even said shit about Vlad, right?
No, this is all because he flagged your content.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
One thou wild funky.
No, no, no, I ain't like, when I'm mad him, I told him I'm like Vlad and he'd been hearing all that since.
No, no, no, is this like runoff academics beef?
Nah, hell, bro.
Bro, bro, no, no, Vlad loves academics, right?
Not you taking academics back face.
Come on, bro.
No, no, listen, Vlad loves act.
Now, it started, you know, so like pretty much,
Vlad, like, hit up Adam and say,
yo, can you tell Flacco not to, I guess, like, cut off my content?
My clips.
I told Vlad, listen, man, I just won't post your content, bro.
It's cool.
I don't have to post it.
So, like, since then, and, right, again.
So, like I said, this is all about.
No, no, no, right?
So after I said, listen, I just want to post your content, bro.
It is cool.
It's cool.
And he's going to tell Adam, oh, I don't like him when.
I'm coming.
I don't want to meet him in the office.
I said, all right, cool, I just want to be here.
You feel me?
You bet.
And then since then, Vlad went back like eight, nine months to flag some content he found
from eight nine months of mine.
Cool, right?
But it's bigger than that, though, right?
Because when you see, like...
Is that why your Instagram go?
Again, I still don't know the way, right?
I still don't know the exact reason since, like, the way he started an interview, I think
he did take it out.
Right, right?
Yeah, he definitely...
A Vladfin is sent the Russian mafia after you.
They're coming to the show on Friday.
Wait, so this is real beef.
No, no, listen.
No, no, no, no.
Like, my issue with, like, Vlad is this, right?
Like, when you have, for example, there's kids with, like, 500,000 follower pages, right?
Who Vlad got took down.
And that kid was fucking, like, 18 or 19 years old.
So, like, you're taking away that nigga primary income.
Because, like, your bitch ass got mad that, like, he reposted a video that's already fucking viral.
To me, that's some ho-ass nigger shit.
But, again, though, I'm just a different type of nigger.
I just work on a different type of time, right?
I pretty much told Vlad, anybody else, my nigga, listen, I'm not speaking on Vlad.
People like Vlad who go around making enemies bankrupting these niggers, they're going
get what's coming to him.
I'm not speaking on Vlad and then speaking on Vlad as wild.
Yo, being at me and a Flago is from the school academics.
I'm from the school of Vlad TV and, um, Shal's Me and the God.
And I feel like a lot of times people come at Vlad TV and stuff, but like his,
actual interviews, like the thing that we got to break down is like, fuck him.
The actual interviews, the content that's being spewed through all those interviews,
I can easily say change my life is the only reason why I'm doing YouTube or where I'm at
and stuff.
So I feel you because I'm basically saying he's doing that too.
He's also inspiring people.
Let's be honest.
Like fed shit aside, Vlad is an incredible interviewer.
He's the best.
To the point where, and I fuck with some of the other people on his channel, when it's not
him doing the interviews, it doesn't hit the same.
You know what funny story is?
In 2014, I DM, this is when I was DM like Revolt TV, I was DM in everybody.
I DM Vlad to be able to do interviews and he gave me, I actually gave me an opportunity.
I think it was his dude named Evan that worked with him.
And he was like, yeah, if you could get interviews, you could get interviews from your city because I used to throw concerts that we would be able to put it on there.
The first interview I was trying to get, didn't go through.
I ended up losing that opportunity.
but I can say is he actually gave a kid from like a random place opportunity.
I didn't pull through with it, but he still gave the opportunity.
And I got something good to say about Vlad too.
Even though we wound up like, you know, he wound up not fucking with me anymore.
I'll tell.
I'll tell.
So Vlad and I were super cool.
He was covering content that I was doing and all that during like the time of the disaster
Cassidy battle.
on the heels of that
I wound up getting into a situation
highly publicized with
Sirius Jones there was a lot of back and forth
it would really turn it to some street beef
I'm not going to say all that transpired
but you had to shoot us go ahead
to kill him or what? He's still alive
you know what I mean like but it got deep
he wound up
Vlad did an interview with me and I'd already been on Vlad TV
he'd already interviewed me after the math and disaster
thing happened but
But at that time, when me and Sirius were going crazy,
he did a whole interview with me where I told the whole,
I'm a crazy X-fueled, way too honest,
self-incriminating interview with Vlad.
Now, everybody talking about how Vlad's the feds,
that interview, I'd still be in prison if that interview came out.
He said, you know what?
And it would have gotten millions of views.
More views than anything I've been a part of probably, you know,
or up there.
That's crazy.
And he said,
you know what,
I'm not going to put this out
because I do not want.
You asked him or?
He said,
he volunteered it.
I didn't,
I didn't care.
Oh,
man,
that's crazy.
Wait,
wait,
wait,
wait,
no,
no,
wait,
wait,
wait,
wait,
that's crazy,
right?
And who would think
that Vlad
will give the same
courtesy to niggas.
Now,
no, no,
no,
now,
now you want to be Mr.
Pro Black.
Now you want to be pro black.
But what he was on?
He just said,
oh,
This nigga just said, where's my camera?
I'm tired of you, niggins.
All right, Karen.
Fucking flaco, Karen.
Uncle Ruck is for real.
Now, now, yeah, you just totally flipped the script
and invalidated everything you said before.
How?
Because you're not anti-black.
You're now doing what you're just admonishing
other black people for doing.
No, no, no.
With that being said, with that.
Yeah, that's right.
You ain't saying shit.
I love you.
You ain't saying shit.
It's a trend, though.
Okay, sure, which you were just a part of.
Now, with, anyways, the reason why we fell out,
and I hope we're cool again, because this was a long time ago,
a good friend of mine who is now deceased, RIP to my brother, Cadillac Ron,
from my hood and everything.
Okay.
Good dude.
He was in, he went viral in 2015 for shooting up in the middle of a rap battle, okay?
Okay.
This was, it went on.
He shot up, what, dope?
He was a drug addicts, all right?
Sounds amazing.
This on YouTube?
It's, yeah, it's still on YouTube, but it got removed.
Now, this was a, Wiz Khalifa tweeted this.
It was on Rolling Stone.
Every major news outlet was pushing this, right?
Vlad posted it, and he said something, or no, no, after my homie died, a little less than a year after that,
he posted that clip again, and me and a bunch of other homies from the hood kind of got at
Vlad for doing that and we're like
Yo that's not cool and he wound up
unfollowing me and like we haven't spoken since
Yo ain't that crazy that like he loved to post other nigger videos
But but then take down
500,000 thousand followers from 18
18 to fucking 19 year old cases
reposted viral videos I just thought that that was
Very I hear what you're saying he's a hypocrite bro
I really fuck with what Vlad does
Fed shit aside excuse me
But I did find that tacky at the time
I don't still harbor a resentment, but maybe you could understand.
He's a hip.
Again, I won't speak on this nigga because, again, man, I'm up to mindset, bro, is like,
I'm working and building.
Fuck the drama.
Fuck the beef.
But again, but.
If he asked you to do an interview, though.
No, fuck him, right?
Vlad kept me out of fucking the pinta.
I'm always respect him, you feel me?
No, though.
But Vlad has a generation of niggas coming up who despises his ass, right?
Because he's doing some scummy shit right now.
Bro, he's tagged fourth quarter TV, one more for the game, fucking Fuchsius.
Bro, I can name you a game of-
Wait, he came at Fuchsis TV?
Bro, yes, nigga.
For what?
Bro, listen, right?
Bro, listen.
For a post in his video, right?
A viral clip already, Blastrichton.
Plus, listen, also, too, is like, bro, he gets worse than this.
He took down a fucking 16-year-os channel, right?
The 16-year-old email this nigga, like, hey, bro, listen, man, like, this shit is the only
shit I fucking.
God, man, please.
I'm sorry.
I will never post your shit again.
Vlad, Vlad, like, responded back with,
it's 10K for me to take off the strike, right?
It's called licensing my concept for 10K,
and then I'll take off the strike.
Come on, bro.
From a business perspective, I understand it.
He charged a whole life of shit,
but he said he charges everybody 10K, though.
Yeah, from a business perspective, I understand that.
And that might not have even been Vlad.
It could have been someone on the screen.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
He specifically.
No, no, no, no.
No, it's the particular email with,
with.
Vlad's first and last name
you feel like me right of him charging a fucking
16 year old 10K today
He's gonna come on bro
You get you charge an A by 10K though
Nigger
Because my point just don't use the nigger shit
That's it
At the end you want to use my shit 10K
If not keep him moving
The kid never listen no
But a kid
Again he's a 16 year old kid
Right
And he's just reposting viral clips
That's going viral on Instagram
Other pictures posting it
Right so he just reposting shit
On his fucking news page
Vlad TV took down that kid
All this stream of income
As a young motherfucking kid.
But everyone does that.
What about, didn't you guys have a dude that David dude?
Yeah.
What's the difference?
The same thing?
Oh, yes.
Yes.
That's the same shit.
Bro.
Yes, thank you.
Bro.
Thank you for saying that shit, right?
Oh, also, I'd like to also thank Reddit user C.
Blicky 63.
Lush, you a cool-ass dude, folks.
Thank you for telling the truth about my favorite rapper,
long-lived Lord Infamous.
Shot the Lord Infamous right now, right?
But here's the main difference, right?
Yeah.
I love you, fuck up.
He said, Tyler Swift, I'm going to let you finish, but.
That was good.
That was good.
Hey, listen, I fuck with Lord Infamous.
That's my nigga.
Shout out to him.
I never heard a song of his, but shout out of him, right?
But like, here's the main difference, though, right?
If you're using somebody's content to attack them,
that's entirely different from a 30-second clip of a three-hour interview
being posted on various
Instagram pages like Shade Room,
Hollywood Unlock, no jumper,
Twitter, taking that clip and going viral
with it, and you wait for a
month or two to go by
and start striking a take down to 16
year old primary income.
To me, that's some fuck shit I don't agree
with, you feel me? And especially
bro, if he's begging to say, please, bro,
nigga, I'm 16, this is my fucking
only income, man. I'm in a fucking
hood of projects, nigga. Please.
I would never post your shit again, nigga.
Please.
It's fucked up, but at the same time, you say, hey, tank.
That's a very, very good lesson for that young and to learn.
Like, you know what I mean?
That's the way the game works.
Content creation, that's how it goes.
I know what's crazy too, right?
He learned a lesson that you should have learned 14 years ago.
No, no, no, no, right?
Bro, listen.
Right?
It was like, yo.
Right?
What's real crazy too, bro?
It's that Vlad don't even know.
Bro, like, you're just creating dozens and hundreds of enemies
who were trying to come up in this rap world
at least out of the hundreds
you don't strike, at least
I'll say a dozen
will probably one day be
notable figures in this hip-hop
journalist shit.
And you are like,
like, like, like, like,
just creating enemies after enemies
for what?
For some petty shit?
Man, listen up, man, I wouldn't,
I wouldn't want to be Vlad, bro,
because from what I've been told
that Vlad is doing to other niggas,
brad, that nigger, that nigger Thomas
comment.
feeling right because like that shit is
bro his time came a long as time ago
what do you mean like yeah like
and literally that
that quarter of a mill he wound up getting
from Rick Ross that shit
super expanded his empire
and profile yeah I heard when he
on that interview he did with Adam
he was talking about when he came here and stuff
that he wanted that they weren't
trying to let his security guy come in with a gun
and stuff and he was like yeah I was like
I ain't going anywhere if I got my security
guy with a gun so if you're going to pull up on him
He got somebody that's strapped up
No, wait, right, but like, it's past
Just like, again, it's past like
Just like physical though, bro like
There's niggas like, who could like
Just go out of the way to be spiteful, fuck up bit
Bro, like, you just never know
Who you're pissing off just like, again
Because it's not even like
Pissing off for a real reason.
Like he's pissing them off just to be a piece of shit
And to me that's fucked up.
I don't know if that's his intention
But I know Gene is
ready to get the fuck out of here.
Let's park the Vlad hate train.
No, I love Vlad, though.
I think that you and Vlad are birds of a feather as far as I'm going to have.
No, I'm talking, they're going to have an interview and that's going to be the illest interview of all the time.
But, bro, again, man, like, I'm just for the culture and that's fucked up.
I'm now for the culture.
You're for the culture.
Because before the cameras came on, came on, you said, I hate rappers.
No.
For the culture of growth like quarterculture.
Did he say that?
Come on.
Yeah, he did say I hate rappers.
No, I hate the niggas who, who like scammy fans, which is most of them.
You said rappers in general are scammers, and that's what...
Here, I said most of these rappers are fucking scammers.
I don't use the phrase most, but...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, again, like...
You want to reiterate?
No, no, no.
No, no, right?
So, like, we discussed the content creators versus the rapper scamming their fans with the NFT 10.
And they're both...
I would say content creators are worse.
Influencers in general, you know?
Nah, these rappers...
Absolutely.
No, my boy is six-nine, men.
Vanessa people with NFTs.
And six-nine's more of a YouTuber's than a rapper.
Oh, yeah, you're right, he is now.
Nah, right.
Steve will do it, he is.
That ain't no rapper.
He's not a rapper no more.
That dude, we went to YouTube, bro.
A rumble.
Well, make sure you guys go to nojumper.com
and get your tickets to the live show is this Friday at the Novo.
We'll see you guys then.
Pull up on me in the balcony.
Yeah, look him quick.
And that's the Monday show.
See y'all Friday.
Clemson Street.
