No Jumper - The Monday Show Ep 8 w/ Glasses Malone & Rob City RT

Episode Date: July 26, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Got the West Coast historian. O.G. Yo, well, first off, man, because that was the first thing, like, everybody was telling me, yo, my God, Glassboro, he's a West Coast historian. Yeah. Why do people call you that? Like, what is it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:00:12 I don't know. I don't know. I think I'm more just overall just hip-hop historian than just West Coast, but I guess it's easier to associate me with just the West Coast. Yeah, got you, man. Well, it's a pleasure to have you here. Thank you all for having me. You are actually Adams' first.
Starting point is 00:00:30 pick of our third seat on this show. For real? Yeah. Damn, that's crazy. Yeah, Adam was like, gotta get you Maloney. Yeah, I actually talked to Adam when I first dropped a song a couple years ago
Starting point is 00:00:40 and that was the first time I met him. It was a big deal to everybody else. I didn't really know. But everybody was telling me about no jumper. Yeah, I wasn't really. Your interview with T.R.S. on the way, too. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Nah, but that was dope. I remembered that. And everybody was more pumped up. Like, oh, no jumper, G. And I'm like, what's that? Like, I didn't really know. But it was dope. It was a good conversation.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I had him pretty knowledgeable. He paid attention. Not, right? Because, like, well, you know, because, like, your biggest co-signed me with Charlotteman to God. I thought I, shit, I co-signed Charlemagne. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:01:16 Yeah. Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah. I just see it differently. I see hip-hop from, like, a real street aspect. So the streets validate everybody else. And nobody validate the streets.
Starting point is 00:01:30 streets validate everybody else. Yeah, right. So, you know, like the first time that, you know, like, I, you know, even, like, it heard of you, I think it was the Brent Idiot's podcast. And I think it was like Andrew Schulton and Charlottomay was. Yeah, I remember that. That was the first time I ever did a podcast. I didn't know what the podcast was.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Really? And he was like, we had did the Breakfast Club and he was like, hey, you want to come do this podcast? And I'm like, a what? He was like a podcast. It's like radio without the commercials and music. And I'm like, so y'all just be talking shitty? Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:58 So I remember going to do it with him. And I kind of sat back if you, it was, the episode was called Grenades in the Glass House. Yeah. And I probably didn't talk for like 35 minutes because I'm like, okay, maybe they're going to introduce me or something. I don't know what's supposed to happen. He's like, no, I just start talking. And I remember and I just, I thought it was dope. It was fun.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Man, and now we got RT TV Rob in the building, man. What's up? What's up? Now, for you who don't know, Rob Ashley, yo, like, you're one of the godfathers. What are godfathers? But you, like, one of the godfathers of the reactions. seen on YouTube because I even you know like Laura loves you boss loves you right so you know Rob TV also like we linked up Rob was one of the first dudes who actually reached out and said
Starting point is 00:02:39 yo like you are new here you actually remind remind me of like myself man you know let's link up I got your back bro you feel me man so you know so big up to Rob man for you know for reaching out early early early on you know you live out here yeah I live oh hey um yo shout to flock because death man watched no jump in my whole life been watching no jump in watching all the different clips and stuff. And the flock was takes. When I was just watching, I'm like, I get why Adam got this dude. Like, he's getting everything.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And it's like, he's like a real person that's just sitting here just talking shit and telling his opinion. So I connected to that, linked up with him. And it was just, we've been rocking since then. Before we get into our bullshit today, I want to shout y'all out because y'all got, y'all gave me the best piece of mercy that I've ever received. That silk shirt? Yeah, we've been giving out to a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:03:29 we just gave it to a blast. That's like the biggest piece right now all in LA. But your reaction to it was the thing that made it. It's like, yo, that's the piece. When we go to anyone, we got to give them that piece. Because people always give me t-shirts and hoodies and it just say they logo on it or, you know, they brand or whatever. That one is like, like, I'm popping it out on Whole Fessions.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I don't know when yet. But it was just perfect. I would not be watching. Just know, I got another gift for y'all today, though. Oh. Everybody in here. Is it Lil Wayne? Oh, no, I ain't like that.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I ain't got it like that. You know, what? Speaking of Wayne. Actually, that's why I seen you on first time in the music video with Lil Wayne. Yeah. Back in the East Coast, because we were so big on cash money at that. I think it was like 2011, 2011, 2012. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I was in about eight No Wayne videos total. Yeah. But I just ain't really like much of it in the camera, like, extra type of person. I'm just really finding my way now. It took me a long time to get comfortable. It's kind of weird to navigate through. navigate through. Through, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And just seeing your interviews and stuff, like, bomb first. You just did that. And it's saying you are able to talk to everything that's going on. And I get why it floggle was like, you're like a West Coast, a story. Because if you're not from the West Coast, when we hear you talk, you know, like, yo, he's legit. He knows what he's talking. And being younger and still connecting to a big salute to you.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Oh, man. I'm glad I can help. Not facts. But speaking of Wayne, Gina, what possessed you to do that wild shit, man? Yo, had those to the deal? I seen it. I was with, like, about... Bro, about like 10 women with some crazy BBL.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I'm talking about, I'm stupid crazy, right? None of my friends got BBL. No, the one like, in the orange, she definitely has a crazy BBL. She's Neek don't have a BVo. No? Well, listen, Neek is fine as fucking Ashley then, right? But Gina was in like a dark room rehearsing low-wain lyrics for a TikTok. That's she didn't get crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:24 TikTok actually muted the video. Why? Really? Because it's cussing, I guess. Sure. I thought it was a gorilla. Guerrilla, what's her name? The rapper? Guerrilla. I thought it was a guerrilla video when I seen you doing that real quick.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I'm like, oh, shit. I'm going viral a little bit. Young Money posting it. I'm waiting for Lil Wayne to post it. If I get Fab and Lil Wayne to post me in the same year, my years make. That is crazy that that really matters. Yes. What?
Starting point is 00:05:51 Fablis is my favorite rapper. Yeah, I just don't. Yo, get on her, man. You know? No, that's dope. That's dope. Nothing. No.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I'm just nothing. No. That's a sad. It's a big, do you know how big, how much of a big deal it was when you follow me on Twitter? That's not a big deal. Oh, it's a big deal. How?
Starting point is 00:06:11 It's just like, dang, the goat sees me. Nah, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not thinking of what I'm putting down. No, it's not like that. It's just I really don't get it. It's not nothing. that's ever excited you to where you like, dang, I'm glad this happened, or I'm glad this
Starting point is 00:06:29 person knows my name or... Yeah, yeah, it had to happen personally. Like, Jay-Z, I'm in the room with Jay-Z. He's like, yo, you're like one of the best West Coast rappers I've heard in my life. Like, you wanted the best. That was special. Or Dre, like, you should do this for a living. But it had to be personal.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Like, somebody was just telling me they was DM me. I was just telling you this story. I'm DMing with this lady, and she was like, yeah, Tiffany Haddish follows you. And I'm like, oh, do she? She's like, you don't know. And I'm like, no. I don't know who the fuck follows you?
Starting point is 00:06:55 me like why would I even care I don't think I've ever thought about that part I give a fuck um yeah like this person actually seen this and thought it was so good they got to put it on their thing so I feel like it's like one of those like it's your work too it's like something you created that they're reposting too and especially when it's something that you don't because like when the fab shit happened I was just talking about fab and then posted it and then somebody on his team seen it and then I guess they sent it to him and he posted it thank you I haven't That's really good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:27 That's really good. Wait, wait, have Fab ever, like, hit the DMs or no? No. Geez. Yeah, I was laughing, man. No. Cardi B reposted, um, posting me this year for a song she dropped. But like, that was big because it was like, we was representing New York in that video.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And for her to repost it was like a drill, K-flog video. So it was like, I was in because it was like, yo, like she really is the culture. She's seeing real niggas that fuck with that New York shit. And she knows what's up. knows what's up. Yeah. Yo, it's crazy. I never got, got nobody.
Starting point is 00:07:58 No, listen, but the biggest shout out that I ever got in was Adam 22 when I was, right? Like, and I think Adam said, yo, Flacco is the greatest YouTuber ever. Oh. Yeah, man, you know. Adam's sitting over there with his footsy's on. Who else is in the rent-in' internet? Yo, I really never got, now, like, now. Like, what exactly is a YouTuber?
Starting point is 00:08:22 Like, I heard that expression a thousand times, and what's a YouTube? Like, what's a YouTuber for real? Like, just somebody who makes videos on YouTube now, outside of music, right? So, like, the rappers don't really count, right? Because they just drive music videos. But I would say the greatest YouTuber ever is definitely Mr. Beast. He's the greatest ever. I've never heard of that person.
Starting point is 00:08:39 What do they do? Like, he just does, like, the viral, like, you know, like, he does, like, viral, you know, like challenges and shit like that, right? Okay, the dude, what's his name? Cobby, is he a YouTuber? Who? The dude that never taught. And all this shit funny as fuck.
Starting point is 00:08:56 And he'd always be like this every time. Oh, you're a TikToker? Yeah. Yeah, right? Yeah, man, but now, you know, but I definitely say I have a long way to go to before I could be considered. But Ack shouted you up. Yeah, but the Ack shot out. Well, no, Ack never, like, shouted me out, though.
Starting point is 00:09:10 But he know who you are? He talked about you. Yeah. You was on his stream. I remember Ack as a YouTuber. I remember him following him earlier on when he was first starting to cover all in Chicago. He didn't even have that many followers. Of course.
Starting point is 00:09:23 But I remember his voice, like, being. really high pitch and he had like this weird sound and he'd just be explaining what was going on with the music scene. In great details. Yeah. How do you feel like act? What do you mean? I don't know because like.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Oh, no, no. I feel about his work. Yeah. His work. Like the war, it's Iraq and setter, et cetera. Yeah, I don't. You know what you know, interview? He don't.
Starting point is 00:09:47 You got to have a lot of talent for me to care. Not saying he don't have talent, but I don't think I would watch an interview about Barbara Waters neither. I don't really care about, like, you report on news. Of course. That's just, you know, I guess some people was good. Who would I think? I thought it was dope.
Starting point is 00:10:03 It was informative. I felt like I was in a know because of his contest, so he has to be doing something, right? Like, I felt really like. Y'all consider Vlad, a YouTuber? Yeah, right? But Vlad's an interviewer, right? He's not really inside the videos.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Yeah, I consider Breakfast Club? Because I feel like Breakfast Club, when they first came up, they came up on YouTube. I don't feel like any of, like, Like in terms of greatest YouTubers ever, we're talking about people with like 50 million plus subscribers, right? Vlad, Vlad is not in there. Nah, man. Shoot a lot of people in there.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Nah, man. Vlad was one of the earliest people I remember using YouTube too. Of course. Like he came to the hood, he came to the seven and did an interview with me there and it's like way back like 2005 or six. Oh, Vlad. Like YouTube had just started. Yeah. I like, um, Zach Cherry and podcast now and craving something scary.
Starting point is 00:10:52 These are the people They make all the scream All the scream Conspiracy theories channels The greatest is the greatest YouTuber is Jake Paul No it's Jake Paul
Starting point is 00:11:04 He's a boxer Logan Paul I think the Paul brothers Because what they did outside of YouTube And they're still YouTubers Well what you do I saw the YouTube to me Have no bearing on like
Starting point is 00:11:15 YouTube career right Because we're talking about who Content wise Yeah right Who's the greatest content creator on YouTube That's Mr. Bees' thing, because he's creating, like, what would I know about him? Like, which thing I saw?
Starting point is 00:11:27 Here, right, so look, so he recreated the squid games and had, like, legit, it was the squid games and had real people compete for real money. It was, bro, crazy. Like, his, like, squid games, like, reenaction did more numbers than the actual squid game. Yeah. It did more than, like, 150 million views. What? It's not a music video. That's the crazy thing.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I don't get that. Why? Was it as intense? The budget he puts in it He literally putting the highest quality Into his production He had to spend like $10 million Yeah easily
Starting point is 00:11:58 I know exactly who you're talking about now Yeah you'll just be probably seen it just Vivaly What's his initial piece that kind of got him going Like what would I know of Like what's his viral piece? Yeah so he would Hair solo really early on before he became like a man
Starting point is 00:12:11 That's like that And he would do this crazy videos like Count until 100,000 Like where he would legit just count One two, three, four Y'all watched that? But people watched it and like shit like that made him viral because he would just count to a hundred thousand.
Starting point is 00:12:25 It's crazy, man. I'm telling you, but I feel like he used to little Asian dudes, see. But that's like kids, they watch YouTube videos of other kids playing with toys. And I feel like Mr. Bees, he did like, he did like some, he did some like psychological stuff like looking into like, what would make a person watch a video over and over. Like he really knows it down to a sign. He could be like a scientist for YouTube.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Did y'all find that entertaining somebody counting? No, I didn't watch that, do you? Now, I didn't watch it in its entirety, but, you know, I got close though. You know what I like on YouTube? If I had to select a great YouTuber, the things that I've been interested in is them too, I think they're Asian dudes, but they're like closer to like India, Asia, but they be building all this shit out of sand and in the dirt. Them niggis is hard. No, they're cold.
Starting point is 00:13:15 That's dope. The people that be cleaning, they be fixing the cows, hoof. The dude, what's the dudes called? That's fake? That's fake? Wow, you just broke, man. Bro, blast his heart. What kind of?
Starting point is 00:13:32 That's fake. It's a doctor, dude, too. It's a little doctor. Oh, I love that. That shit is the shit. And when they're like, oh, bro, when they like scrape the hood and the post come out sometimes, oh.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Yeah, they fix it. Yeah, that one. And then lately I've been on the sheep sharing. yes maybe sharing all this shit like you gotta have talent for me i'm not watching to make it count me that's just nah man but let's get into the yeah let's get into the hotter flops yeah what's hot and what flopped now who was to go first so pretty much like what you set the tongue go first yeah so what's hot and what flop this pretty much you either choose to highlight something you've seen as we that was really dope rather's music film or whatnot or you know you get to give a critique on something you've seen as
Starting point is 00:14:16 we'd rather music, you know, film or not. So I'll do a what's hot. Now, my what's hot is a female who we've been really hard on. Asian doll. You see, Asian doll, you know, got some flag because she went to the Bronx. She overstayed her welcome, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:32 like she was out there in the trenches, set tripping, wearing one color, throwing up different sets, all type of stuff, right? And eventually the Bronx got tired of her started a GoFumming to get her out of the Bronx. She got kicked out and went back to Houston. They started to go foamy to get her out. the Bronx? Yes, because they say, yo, like, she's just out here
Starting point is 00:14:48 wilding now, but she needs to go. So why did they just didn't kick her up? Trolling and shit, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You right? What the fuck is going on? This is what's happening to hip-hop now. Yeah, man. Yo, they're just trolling.
Starting point is 00:15:03 So pretty much, like, they started like the whole goal from me saying, yo, let's raise enough money to give the Asian dog to just leave the Bronx. So pretty much. Like, she need the Bronx to live? Nah, because the thing is, she came into with the Joe thing to the Bronx saying, like, yo, I'm the queen of the Bronx Drew and she's not even from New York.
Starting point is 00:15:17 So a lot of people was like a Houston girl just came through. It was like, yo, I think her tape's coming out. It's called Queen of Drew. Well, it already came out. Oh, okay. My friend. And, like, that's what I'm doing with the what's hot or not. Because after hearing her tape, you know, now she's a, you know, a quote-unquote bird in terms of terms, right?
Starting point is 00:15:36 But, yo. In terms of terms of terms? She's a quote-unquote bird. Okay. But she can rap, y'all. She's nasty, okay. I listen to that tape, your queen of drill,
Starting point is 00:15:48 yo, Asian doll is the queen of drill. Yo, that tape, listen to me, that tape dropped and I believe the gangster art dropped. Asian doll had the best tape last week, yo. That shit was fired.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Damn, I'm asleep. A person from Houston that moved to New York is the queen of a Chicago thing. I mean the New York drill, though. Well, yes, yeah, right? So now, you know, like more cities have taken on the term
Starting point is 00:16:14 quote unquote drum music. You know that's like real, though. Yeah. You got to actually have a lot of gun violence to actually have that. Where, in the Bronx? I mean, like, drill, right? Is that having your music, you're saying? Y'all said it's called what?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Drill. Drill is like about... It's like quitting drill, I think. Yeah, drill is gun violence, right? So I would think that don't go together. Here, right? So I feel like, you know, like drill music currently, especially in the Bronx and Brooklyn,
Starting point is 00:16:38 it kind of has involved, right? So, like, there are, you know, like the aspects of, yo, like niggas really, like, like killing ops and spinning blocks but then there's like you know like for example like Kenzel B she's like a female she really doesn't really speak about you know like real ops she just you know
Starting point is 00:16:53 rapping about you know like the struggle and shit like that right so you call that drill now right yeah right because like you know like Bronx Drill currently like what Bronx drill is described as it is like they do these great samples and over kind of like kind of the UK
Starting point is 00:17:10 B right so Bronx drill has kind of evolved to point where drill music isn't really even like describing just like drilling a murder is describing like the sound of the music now. Right? So like Bronx drill to me is way different from let's say like Chicago drill
Starting point is 00:17:26 because Bronx drill to me is the new quote on quote like the drill scene right now. So you're gentrifying drill. They definitely gentrified drill. They definitely did. I think the drill New York is like how Diddy was doing samples back in the 90s. I mean that's original hip hop though. But that's like
Starting point is 00:17:41 but they haven't been doing it recently. The draw artists, every beat coming on has like a dope sample to it right now. It's all simple. So why would they call it drill when they could just call it hip hop or like New York music? Why would they like take something from Chicago? That don't make sense. That's rooted in like super street violence
Starting point is 00:17:58 and urban cultural survival and make it like something else when they literally have the patent to samples and drums. I feel though like Bronx drill definitely did start from that point though, right? Because again, like let's not get it wrong. Like Bronx drill is just as
Starting point is 00:18:13 as ruthless or the origins of Bronx drill is just as ruthless as Chicago, right? No, no, no. It's not the same. It's totally different. Nah, the access to tools is different.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Nah, he's talking about more like the music, like the artists, the rappers. It's like for real shit, that's like gangster rap without gang members. Bronx drill too, though, right? But I'm saying so why would just keep me up the stats because I'm trying to keep up.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Yeah, look, right, so look. So Bronx drill, no, no, no, listen. It definitely does the right. just call it hip-hop. Here, right? So here's why, because, well, okay, so Bronx real actually, Bronx real did actually start from that point, right, where there were actual, like, for example,
Starting point is 00:18:52 like guys like K. Flock and D thing, they are dissing actually dead people and spending blocks, et cetera, right? K. Flock is currently- Like Chicago. Yeah, right? Now, KFlock is currently in, in jail for murder right now, right?
Starting point is 00:19:04 You know, right? So like, you know, like, people like PJ Glissie, they're currently in jail for murder. So they do have a scene where they are actually like, like, like, um, spending blocks, chasing down ops and actually doing some street shit. The same thing that they've been doing in New York forever. Yeah, but like with these Bronx artists, they grew up on Chicago drill.
Starting point is 00:19:21 So like when Chief Keeping these artists were all, a lot of these kids were like five, seven, six. So 10 years later, they didn't grow up on the hip hop that we grew up on. They grew up on drill. The first thing they heard musically was Chief Keith Drill. So they took that and just grew up on it and made it theirs. So why not just make it? But that's my point. Like Chief Keith, you got to remember, right?
Starting point is 00:19:40 All that Chicago shit is from the street. It ain't nothing to do with music. They just start having artists rap. Why not just like literally you kind of have the patent to samples and drums. I just don't know why would you call it. I feel like they did it more to like, it really is like, I got to diss my ops.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Like pretty much like they really have real street beef and it's like, yo, the way these dudes is disrespecting, let me disrespect my ops on music. So I feel like it is, but it's like, it's a new way of dis- But New York even invented fucking disres. Districts. I mean, smoking on, smoking on ops. I don't think like smoking on taxes.
Starting point is 00:20:11 A new way to phrase it is fine, but I mean, they invented, I mean, matter of fact, it's the Bronx. Fucking, that's KRS 1, drop the bridge is over. Like, you don't have, that's just always weird to. But if they didn't name drop, was K.R.S. It was like dissing, but he was dissing battling, but it wasn't like, yo, like, I'm dissent. I killed your brother. And I'm going to name how I killed your brother on the record. I think that's different, though.
Starting point is 00:20:34 It's not, but I get the thing. But that's not what, it's kind of like, it's a weird gentrification of something. that's a lot more deeper than just the song. Just sound weird, that's all. I guess you're in the Bronx. Like, this is literally like, this is cool hurt. And it's like, you calling something out of Chicago, like that Chicago adapted from your shit is just weird.
Starting point is 00:20:55 But I don't think the young is, like, you're like, I don't think they, like, New York. You just gotta get smarter though. You walk outside, you from the Bronx. I mean, this is the home of this shit. Like, this is where it all started. Why would you take something from Chicago when you actually literally are the father of their shit too?
Starting point is 00:21:10 The internet. Glass is that you. have any music you've been listening to lately? Any new music? Anybody that's hot or something you heard and it was just hot-ass garbage? Hot-ass garbage. I like outside.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Snicket from Englewood, I'm still playing that deuce. No-dose. Shout to a little duke. I'm still playing that. I've been working on a lot of the Johns, the L.A. John stuff, so I listen to a lot of their stuff because I've been working on it. For the most part, it just be records.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I mean, I like certain songs that be jamming. RIMB. Rumble got some good cuts. Yo, he's hard. Rainbow was hard. Yeah, he got some dope-ass songs. Somebody knew whose songs I really like. The song by the Twins, Cam and China.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I like that. Who flopped from your point of view. What's the last trash shit you heard? Trash. It's probably not going to be from a new artist. It's hard for me to call a new artist shit trash. Because they might have to start rapping like seven days ago. I understand I'll be listening to people like 12 songs, so I don't really judge it that way.
Starting point is 00:22:24 So you have to be in the game a little bit longer, so I know you, like, trying hard and your shit just whack. Yeah. Like, you know what you're doing. But if you, like, if this show, some of these dudes, it'd be their 20th song. Like, I don't even remember. Like, my 20th song was probably so bad. You know what I mean? 20th?
Starting point is 00:22:40 Yeah, like, some of these dudes' songs be like their 21st song or their 25th song or their 28th song. Like, you listen to a lot of artists start real early. in their careers. It's like going to little leagues, like a basketball game in the ninth grade and trying to judge them as a pro. It just kind of don't make sense. So I don't really judge them like that. But the Cardi B song is hard.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I like that song. Now, we actually reviewed it together, right? Yeah, the hot shit. Now, the Cardi verse was hard. Well, no, like one half of the verse was hard, right? And then Dirk just absolutely killed that shit. That actually is the best Dirk feature.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I heard like on radio. Exactly. In a while. I've always been like I'm like, like Dirk is average to me. That's the first time I was like, oh, I get it. But then Kanye just fucked that song up though. I didn't never even heard that for it. I like Kanye verse.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I never heard of. Oh, God, you heard it. Yo, Kanye, his version looked like he was just freestyle. Like his version looked like he was just out here bullshit in the whole song. No, it didn't even, I don't think that was him in the video. Really? I don't think that was him in a video. Now, he had on Kanye attire, you know, but the video.
Starting point is 00:23:49 He had like a mask on the stuff? Yeah, but his verse didn't look like it was Kanye performing. What kill me is how niggas let that nigger show up like that. Everywhere. You'll beat cuss up if he showed up. Why? Because it does me no good if you don't show people you Kanye, you actually insult me. Got you.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Like all of these people that allow, and he's one of my favorites. He's in my top five, but all of these people that allow him that allow that, you crazy. We're the mask cuss head off if he showed up with all that dumb ass shit on it. Boy, you better let these people. will see you. This is the point of you being in the video so it can help me benefit me. It's like, nigga, you're giving me a quarter of it.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Don't play with my shit with your marketing, bro. I don't know. Some of this shit that people let go today is just so disrespect. I said the same shit when I heard this verse. I felt like his verse was half. Yeah, like he just went and just. And he was just talking about some random bullshit.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Just randomly bullshit, not even rhyming half the time. He shot and shot. He shot at Cardi B sister, though. Yeah, he did. He said Hennessy. Yo, it was not even, I'm like, bro, how did Cartagie actually was bad? That's just unbelievable. Yo, no, it was disgusted.
Starting point is 00:24:55 That song's not bad. Like, the way we thought it was going to be is not it. So, that song flop. Well, Les, because I do want to talk about Kanye in a minute, but do you have a... Central C. Doja. Yo. That first three bars. How can I be homophobic, bro?
Starting point is 00:25:12 Yo, that's like, I ain't a liar. That's like the first UK artist I could co-sign that he's going to pop in America. Like the UK drill artist that's gonna pop. Wait, wait, wait, but again, like, like, that's my thing, though. What is the UK drills? Yeah, yeah. It started in the UK, actually. No, you can't have guns in the UK.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Exactly. And that's my point. How are niggins drilling, bro? Mary Poppin'Low, man. Hey, Lauren. What the fuck is going on, don't you say? I didn't even know you could have a gun in the UK. Yo, that changes everything.
Starting point is 00:25:41 How do y'all let this happen? I didn't even know, so you just put me on. Well, here, so. I didn't know that either. Yeah, well, I didn't know that. Nah, so drill music started in Chicago, but then Brooklyn drill took the UK beats and started about drilling. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yeah, it started as Grim first. Brooklyn took the grind beats, right? Now, Grime kind of evolved into now, like, is UK drill and then there's grind. So Grim is probably like skepta in them, right? That's Grime, right? Now, UK drill. Yeah. Now Drill is like the, you know, like, C, right?
Starting point is 00:26:14 Where there's dudes like AJ and them who was just rapping about some real, vicious shit. Now, are these guys really spinning blocks? I don't know, right? Because I don't even think they can have guns in the UK, but still. Like a really hard place. It's weird because New York and, UK have some of the, UK is even worse, but some of the worst
Starting point is 00:26:32 gun laws in the world, so the guns are going to be limited versus a place where kids had technines and Uzi's, it's just different. Walking on the street with it. It's just different. I don't know, and they call it drill, huh? Yo, the craziest drill, like era, if it ever happens,
Starting point is 00:26:48 will be like the southern drill because them boys got guns for real. That would be go crazy. Like, come on, bro. Like some hillbilly drill? Yo, no, I went to Atlanta. Hillbilly drill is wild. I went to Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Like, that's one of the wildest things. Like, going to gas stations, they low-key really be having dudes patrolling gas stations. Like, each gas station belongs to somebody. So, and, like, you go out there, you go into a gas station, dudes are just showing it off.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Like, yo, what's up? They're shaking, like, waving head over to you. and stuff. A white boy or like, niggas. Niggas. They just laying you know what's up, like what time it is. Yo, um, Aaron just fell out. For mine, can I do a movie? Sure, movie. Okay, we have. So I went to the movies
Starting point is 00:27:30 last week and I saw a black phone. So this is a spoiler for anybody who haven't saw it yet. But it was the first time I saw in a scary movie that the villain was defeated by a child. Did you all see the movie? No. You don't know what I'm talking about. Okay, so there's a
Starting point is 00:27:49 really good is with Ethan Hawk. He kidnaps like four or five kids. And then the last kid that he kidnaps is seeing visuals of the ghost of the children that he kidnapped and killed. So they're helping him get out of the basement. They helping him escape. The police end up being right on the nose going right to the house and don't know that the kid is in the freaking basement. The way that they found out was because the little sister was having visions of, I mean, she was having dreams of the kidnapping. And she didn't know, she didn't see it happen or anything. And she knew details that, like, they didn't put out in the, in the theater.
Starting point is 00:28:25 I mean, not the theaters. That they didn't put out in the news yet. And she ended up leading them right to where her little brother, I mean, where her big brother was. But it was real good. They ended up killing them and everything. I also have no interest in seeing that movie. But, like, that's just, so. It's good as fuck.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I'm going to check it out. I'm telling y'all. So I went to go, I'm obsessed with Scream. Scream is my favorite movie of all time. That movie was way better than Scream. And I've never, I've never said a movie is better than Scream. That shit was way better. I've never seen Scream, but I'm the nigga, though, that haven't seen.
Starting point is 00:29:02 You never seen Scream. You never seen, like, Boys in the Hood, they've been saying. We never seen Boys in the Hood? No. How old are you? 24th. Yeah, you just was born yesterday. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:14 But still, though. No. No. No, that's just no. No. No, but Boys in the Hood, like, they played on TNT all the time. Like, just reruns. I can understand how you could not see that.
Starting point is 00:29:24 What Hood classics have you seen? You seen Friday? You know, I'll be real. Now, I have memory of Friday, right? Now, I know at some point I probably seen, like, scenes of it, but I can't recall a time where I watched the entire Friday movie. Ministers Society. Don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I definitely didn't see that. Poetic justice. Definitely didn't see that. No. Baby boy. Yeah, you seen that. Tyrese. I see clips on, like, Twitter and, like, Instagram, right?
Starting point is 00:29:52 You know, like, we're, like, there's different memes and shit. What's your favorite movie? Of all time? Sure. Man, what's the, my favorite movie of all time? I'll probably say the Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Which one? Oh, you grew up watching white movies.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Are you trolling right now? No, what you mean? My favorite movie of all time? If he grew up, if, from where he's from and where he comes in? What? That's just amazing. Willie Wonka and a chocolate. Oh, no, no, no, sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:19 The first one or the Johnny Depp one? Yeah, that's one. The first one, right? Gene Walker. Yeah. That's a good taste. Now, now, now, that one or the, like, the, like, the, I'm, um, Twilight series. Yeah, you know, I'm with that.
Starting point is 00:30:33 You don't watch Black stuff. Yo. Twilight, Twilight. I'm actually scared to Twilight. I'm scared of Twilight, but I know that that's, like, a favorite. That's a lot of people. Twilight, go crazy. What's your favorite movie with black people?
Starting point is 00:30:44 Yeah. With black folks. Like, what's like a classic Black movie? Oh yeah, I've seen that. Oh, no, no, sorry. Movie, I can't really recall, but I love the Hidden Colors documentary. You never seen a movie with black people? No, like, I've seen, um, yeah, that.
Starting point is 00:31:03 And then this Christmas with, like, Chris Brown, right? That's the only two black movies you see? No, I've seen more. I've seen more, but, you know, I can't recall just, you know, just, you know, just off the top of my head, right? Do you watch TV now? Have you never seen black movies? No, I've seen like movies like House Party?
Starting point is 00:31:23 No Temptations? I see Temptations Barbershop. On a BET. I see barbershops on a BET. You can't watch a movie on BET. You can't watch.
Starting point is 00:31:32 That doesn't even count. That means that you really didn't even see the movie. Yeah. Right. No, look. No, BET don't count. Have you ever been to the movie theater and seen a black movie?
Starting point is 00:31:40 No. Like, at the movies? No. No. No. Oh, yes. I see Typerry. No, but, like, there was
Starting point is 00:31:47 dudes like in who would bring like CDs and shit like around I see those and shit you've seen a black movie in a theater with other black people of Black Panther that's the last one where like I've seen it in the theater with other black folk
Starting point is 00:32:02 Does that count as a black movie? Yeah that is that was like the most Trapped in a closet Trapped in a closet What's it again? Did you see trapped in the closet? Yeah
Starting point is 00:32:12 Yo, yo I just like give it canceled Barrel so they fucking I've seen it Like Marvel No, Trapped in the Closet is out. Like, that's a, like, it's a whole series. Now, I've seen it on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:32:23 I've never seen Trapp in the Closet like. The full, like the full. I want to say it's like six parts. So you never seen a black movie with black people in the theater? Well, Black Panther. A lot of niggas was there. Black Panther in theater? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:37 What about Rize? It was the most black people I've ever seen a theater? You got, sir. Was it? Yeah, they had that Shikis. Everybody wasn't seen Baby Boy. That was the most black people ever seen the movie theater. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Mine was her eyes. That shit was like, I was mad when that shit came out because there, white people there acting like, it was too much going on. But you had white saviors out in plenty. The white saviors out, oh my God, man. Yo, niggas who like, bro, white folks who believe, like, they're the savior to like black folks
Starting point is 00:33:04 because they like pull up a BLM sign and wear Dachikis, those are the worst type of folks in a plant. Listen, I would prefer like a full on proud boy Trump nigger over like a white person who thinks like them caring BLM sign is their way of, you know, quote-unquote saving black folks. I mean, they got to fight they fight. I guess. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:24 That's crazy. You never seen it. So that was the only one was Black Panther. Yeah. But you've never seen a Hood movie with Black people there. In theaters, no. But I think it's different because you're from Los Angeles. So it's more black people with, like, Dakota and Providence, Rhode Island.
Starting point is 00:33:36 There's not a lot of Black people. So the movie did when Black Panther, that's why I'm like, that was the first time. And you even said for yourself. Yeah. And also, too, I turned AT about like six years ago. so yeah that was yeah so like time before that I have to rely on on African parents to take us to movie theaters yeah yeah yeah because were you allowed when it come out were you allowed to listen to rap music and stuff yeah yeah yeah like they didn't regulate favorite artists growing up so you was born in 98 yes so Drake
Starting point is 00:34:11 I mean like Drake wow So peep this So I discovered probably So again No right So here So like the first The first like project
Starting point is 00:34:26 That I actually like went Like searching for Was so far gone What's the first album you bought? Was probably Have you ever bought? You wouldn't definitely have a problem He was born in 98
Starting point is 00:34:37 Yeah no no no No no I bought Drake's thank me later On iTunes And that was me actually like giving, right?
Starting point is 00:34:48 Like, me giving, like, my sister, yo, please get it from me, right? So, you know, yeah, man, so I'd probably say 2008-ish is when I really went searching for hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:35:03 So you're, Drake raised you. Yeah, Drake raised me, Lord Wayne, Copsin. Who would you find more important than your musical category? Oh, Drake, Drake, Drake. Drake, Drake.
Starting point is 00:35:14 More than Wayne? Bro, Drake to me, I'll probably say niggas like Jay Z No, Jake's better in all of them Yeah, Jay Z may be Biggie, right?
Starting point is 00:35:25 But in terms of the greatest of all time Drake to me is who I would put as like That's tight though This guy is a got-tier Bro, he's a got-tier rapper, you know?
Starting point is 00:35:36 I remember when he first came to Cash Money. Really? Yeah. You know, when you first heard Drake Was you like, yo, this nigga can rap and say, oh my,
Starting point is 00:35:45 First nigga is a god. No. No? Drake was cool. He was a cool dude. He's a talented guy. I just, he's a different kind of artist. Like, I've always compared him to Madonna.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Like, culturally, he's, like, he can do anything. Like, if you know what Madonna is, and people kind of get upset when I say this, Madonna is a white woman. So naturally, they just, oh, it's a white woman versus understanding the musical implications of what I'm talking about. Madonna is a type of artist that used to go around and do. every kind of sound and make it work for her. Drake does the exact same thing. Who's your goal? Because me personally, like, when I say,
Starting point is 00:36:23 yo, Drake is the greatest of all time. Like, you got folks who look at me like, nigger, right? I think that's dope as fuck because, like I said, I remember him coming to cash money, seeing him early. So it's amazing to think, like, there's a generation of people he raised.
Starting point is 00:36:36 That's dope. I think if we compare careers in line, no matter what era, these people came out, if we line their careers up in air, like by error, I think Drake is high in ranking. I just think he's not really comparable to hip hop artists. I think he's a kind of a pop artist.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Why's that going? He's not a, he doesn't wear the burden of culture. Hip hop is more important about bearing the burden of culture. Jay-Z came to like a world that didn't want him. Snoop came to a world that didn't want him. 50 cent came to a world that didn't want him. Kanye came to a world that didn't want him. Drake was like all open on.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Well, speaking of a country, Kanye and Young Money, did you guys see the clip of Amber Rose saying that she A&R'd Monster? Yeah. Well, Kanye, Eminem, and Nicky Minotch. What'd y'all think about that? I believe it. I think she's... Eminem's not on Monster.
Starting point is 00:37:30 It was in Monster? No, it was Rick Ross, Kanye, and Jayzee. Oh, I forgot the Eminem standing. First off, M&M. Wait, what song is Eminem? Oh, that's Roman's Revenge. That's Roman's revenge. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Yeah, but what did y'all, what did y'all thought about that? I mean, like, being personally, like, would I say, I believe her? I, like, I would say this. Do I think that maybe she invited Nick Minaj to the studio? Yes. Now, is that where, like, A&R, like, stopping ends? Because I don't know, like, you know, like much about, like, an A&R, but is A&R just inviting somebody to the studio?
Starting point is 00:38:11 And if they hop on a record, you know, like, that's it? I mean, I would think Amber Rose, That's what she would call it, but obviously, A&R is a lot more. But, I mean, I believe if she says he wasn't fully aware of Nikki Minaj, I believe it. Isn't that a form of producing to them? No, no.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Just putting an artist introducing somebody, hey, put this, add this person to this song? That's a good idea. Good idea. So does Amber Rose deserve any type of credits on the track? No. I think it's equivalent. What?
Starting point is 00:38:43 She deserves nothing. For her telegrams. him hey this is a new artist put this girl on this track that you got right here she abided this she shouldn't get no type of nothing for y'all crazy as hell y'all crazy so let me ask you for a buddy nicky um yes so you know ditty's new song um with bryson teller there was a big thing his ex said that she put him on to that song like she heard the song and she put him on so she was coming out saying that she wants a and our credit because she put ditty on to that song that he put out and he's not with her. So you think she is an A-N-Ref for that?
Starting point is 00:39:16 These women are crazy. Putting somebody onto a song and sharing it with them and say, listen to this is different from somebody hearing a beat, hearing a verse on it, and thinking, oh, this person would sound good on there. You should pull up to the studio, drop a 16. That's different to me than
Starting point is 00:39:32 sending somebody a track. But she heard the song before, the song that she heard, did he ended up taking that same song and rapping on it? But was it already out? It was leaked. It was like a leaked song. No, that's different to me. That's different to me. She's not an-harker. But that's dope. Yeah, but that's dope.
Starting point is 00:39:46 No, but speaking of Kanye, though, yo, they did our boy Kit Cuddy. Bad. Rollin'all. Yo, y'all see that bullshit they did, yo? So Kanye said he wasn't showing up to Rolling Loud. He wasn't performing. So they went ahead and gave, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:40:00 Kid Cuddy is his op right now. So they gave his op. That's his son. Son. But, like, they're currently beefing now. That's his son. Son op, right? No, that's his son.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Right? So pretty much, like, they gave Kid Cuddy, Cutty, the headliner, so you do it. So what Kaye did was, because Lord Durk was kind of like performing around the same time as well, so what Kaye did was he came out during Durk said to take away from Kit Cutty said. You don't know that's why he...
Starting point is 00:40:28 Man, come on, man. Cutty a petty nigga, man. You can't just estimate. You just can't imagine that this is why you're sure of it. I can't understand why that could be a thought. Yeah. But I don't think that had nothing to do it with them. was throwing stuff. I seen that too.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yeah. He got up there, he took his ball and went home. Yo, also too. Yo, I seen the wildest shit. There was a fan who was wearing like a kid-cutty shirt, like the ghost shit. And then leaving his set to Go see Durk and Kanye, I say, yo, these niggas ain't loyal at all, man. Bro, that's his son.
Starting point is 00:41:02 And sometimes, like, you know, get out of control. Like, he don't, there's no way I would beef with nobody or have nothing negative to say about somebody that changed my life. I don't care what little Wayne, Birdman, Mac 10, anybody did, game,
Starting point is 00:41:18 no bad or what. You ain't going to hear me speak down on him. So for him to say any of the shit he's saying, he's just a foul-ass nigga for that. Now, I would say this. Regarding Kid Cuddy, he was foul as fuck for taking the side of Pete Davis. Yeah, I think that... That's just some suck of shit.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Meaning, bro, if you're my man's, bro, like, yo... I put you on, I change your life. And this... My wife. Right. And it's racially ambiguous, mixed white boy slash black boy because Pete Davidson is black.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Right? So, is he? He's mixed. I know for sure, right? P. Daisy's mixed. I never heard. He's white people. Now, Pia's mixed.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Like, he's like logic. He's like Italian mixed with English. Yeah. He's like Italian mixed with Scottish. Italian mixed with Irish. I listen. He's not an Italian mixed with nothing African.
Starting point is 00:42:09 What percent you think he got to the black? I've heard. Pete was mixed just too many times. I'm just starting to repeat it. If he's not mixed, Pete. I was a horrible. Pete, hit me back that black card, my nigga, right?
Starting point is 00:42:23 If you're not mixed, bro. He doesn't get the black card. He's like, would you tell I never used it? Wade Glass and so what you think about what game said about Dre? He tripped out, man. He was going through it. Game is kind of fighting a lot of his, a lot of battles on his own, and people should be helping him.
Starting point is 00:42:39 So I think he was just happy somebody actually, you know, gave him. of the statute gave him some help. But Chuck knows, just like I know, Dre, that's everything. But I'm sure he knows more about their situation than even I do. So, you know, but, yes, he tripping. Did you think that he sent his shot on violence to Dr. Dre?
Starting point is 00:43:02 I doubt it. I mean, game is really smart. He's one of the best people I know from the West Coast at marketing, him, Kendrick, Nip. Those are the three best guys with marketing. So they know what they're doing. they can make something happen and everybody else will insinuate and they'll just be like man that's not what i'm talking about man he said i knock at the door and dray never answered but the hit
Starting point is 00:43:25 boy beats knock i don't know what that meant but that's what he said on violet what specifically that meant but i mean chuck is chuck is a really the reason he's such a brilliant artist is because he wears his emotions on the sleeve he always right there all the time I always tell Joey Westside from the John's the same thing. It makes you a brilliant artist, but it don't always make you the best gangster rapper to wear your emotions, you know, on your school. Well, more Rolling Loud tea. Brittany Renner.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Why was she there? Why was she there? Your first off, they need to be an investigation. Who the fuck is Brittany Renner? Like, first off, I'm kind of salty because I applied for, like, press credentials and Roland Law like fucking last year. And these niggas rejected me. somehow fucking Britney Renner is going around
Starting point is 00:44:15 flirting the shit with fucking Kodak Black while conducting a fucking interview. Flok up. She went viral twice. I was contacted. While flirt, listen, bro, here's why I'm fucking mad. When the Britney Renner become a hip-hop journalist to where now she's going around trying to interview fucking rappers and Rollin Law.
Starting point is 00:44:33 And the interview that went viral was with Kodak Black where she was like, damn their offering to suck this nigga dick. I thought that was about the kids, but Roland Laud got me fucked up too. They reached out to me? Really? They reached out to me and you see y'all wasn't out there. Here, it fell little, little, little.
Starting point is 00:44:49 That's crazy. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm petty, so let me just call out the person who freaking rejected me, bro. This is bullshit. It's just, wait, hold up. So, wow. I'm not going to name drop.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I'm going to take your shots early. Yo, listen, man. Carrie from Roland Law, look at this, man. Yeah, I applied last year And she got back to me, what, last month? No. Thank you for your interest in covering
Starting point is 00:45:17 Rowling Loud, Miami, 2020, and for your patience. Unfortunately, Roland Lau is not able to accommodate your request to cover the festival as press this year. Come on, bro. But Britney Raynor got a press pass to go ahead and just... Not only did she get a press pass, but she is the main... She back there getting to Kevin Gates,
Starting point is 00:45:40 The Kodak Black. She's backstage getting it. She's getting the top artist. Yeah. Should I even interviewing him an excellent, bro? She's legit. Just starting a button on camera. Hey, don't hate the player, though.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Hate the game. She doing what they letting her do. How the real hip-hop niggas got rejected, but abroad who was, bro, listen, have you seen... Do you consider yourself a real hip-hop nigga? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Yeah, of course, listen. I cover strictly hip-hop on my channel. Do you really, for real? Yeah, of course, yeah. Again, now, again, though, now, and now like, in On No Jumper, we cover much more, but on my channel is the new hip-hop. You know what hip-hop is?
Starting point is 00:46:21 Like, for real? Yeah, rap music. No. Harris, Harris, I'm sorry, Hair, a question to you, right? What's hip-hop then to you? Well, no, this is what hip-hop is, you will remember this.
Starting point is 00:46:33 It's street urban culture. So it's like, it revolves around street urban culture. Yeah. densely populated crime-ridden neighborhoods, right? It's not just observers, it's participants. So the crime affected them. You could have people like tribe who didn't fall into crime or don't talk about it, or you could have people like iced tea that can rap about the crime itself.
Starting point is 00:46:54 So that's really the culture and everything it spins off. The languages and all these different places. It's not just music. It's really important when you're saying it because I do consider you somebody that the culture of respect. Like I haven't really got into all your content. and I've seen some of your stuff, and I think you're a real wise young nigga, but you just really got to know what it is,
Starting point is 00:47:14 and then you build from there. Here, right, but, like, I do think that hip hop has evolved, at least past the quote-unquote, again, like, when I think about streets, I'm thinking about just us as, like, consumers and people who, you know, who, like, listens and, like, just the music.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Now, now, now, like... You still be fans, but that don't mean you to coach it. No, no, no, right. Like, we all watch the NBA, but we're an NBA player. No, right. here, so like, I definitely like somewhat agree,
Starting point is 00:47:40 but I think that hip hop has evolved past, yo, like, if it's not the hood shit, it's not hip hop. Like, for example, guys like Drake to me is hip hop. Logic to me, who,
Starting point is 00:47:51 like, who actually wraps and spit. They could just be dope rappers. Like, you don't have to be hip hop. So what is hip hop? Like right now, like, what's the same thing
Starting point is 00:48:00 had always been? No, but like, what artists would you consider hip hop right now? Chief Keith, you know, six years ago. the cultural revolution, little baby,
Starting point is 00:48:09 the cultural phenomenon. Kodak Black is super killer. Yeah. The baby is super killer. You know what I mean? He makes a weird brand of both YG, supercultural. It requires you to carry the burden of culture.
Starting point is 00:48:24 It don't have to just be criminals. It's not even if I'm from. Kendrick Lamar, like Good Kid, Matt City. That's the same crime spoken from observation's perspective. So even if he's rapping about crime or whatever, he still grew up in those same environments and those same parties. Everybody at the same party. If you're not at these parties,
Starting point is 00:48:41 you're not one of us. And it's really important to say that. Like, rap music can, it's as mainstream as American pop. It's going to be Jack Harlow's, a lot of dope rappers, super dope rappers. But they don't have to be hip-hop. Well, like hip-hop is currently a genre of music, though. And I believe that niggas like Eminem, Jack Harlow,
Starting point is 00:48:59 Drake, those guys belong under the umbrella of hip-hop. M is not like Jack Harlow or Drake. Okay, break it down. M is very much like, so that same white person before M was born was a punk rock person, that was still white street urban lifestyle. Like there are some places around this country where poor white people exist in the same places that we exist or poor white people exist in street urban places, you know what I'm saying? But it ain't just no fucking rap music.
Starting point is 00:49:25 You can't pick up a CD and just be hip hop. You know what I mean? And that's what happens to all the other genres. I don't want to get preaching and teaching, but it's important you know, fuck everybody else. It's important. You know that it's more than just the music. It's really, it's a representative. It's like a window into life that we never got, you know, people didn't know our world at first.
Starting point is 00:49:43 They didn't know what was going on in the Bronx. They didn't know what was going on in Brooklyn and Compton. They didn't know, and we gave them a sneak pink end. That's what it will always represent. The reason we figured out it was an opioid epidemic in Atlanta is because of future. The reason we figured out it was all this crazy gun violence in Chicago is because of Chief Keith and their movement. That's what hip hop does. it makes you aware of everything going on in street urban communities.
Starting point is 00:50:07 So there's a lot of people that rap, like a Drake, a Jack Harlow, and I hate to compare them too because they're completely different, but they neither one particularly represents hip-hop. They both make fantastic rap music. Jack Harlow kind of makes it easy listening, like Kenny G. A jazz or what would be considered jazz. Drake is different because he could go around the country and like do what we do musically, but that don't mean you to culture.
Starting point is 00:50:35 You feel like Wiz is? Yeah, I mean, but I think Wiz is a hipster, so it's always this weird space where you can exist as a stoner if you grew up where we grew up at. Cypress Hill, Snoop Dog. I mean, but there is a cultural burden that you wear. It is a language, it's a lingo, and it don't switch everywhere you stop. Well, let's get into. Wait, though, right, but I definitely get your point.
Starting point is 00:51:00 But here's where, like, I disagree. I do things that like things evolve, right? And, you know, like, for example, like hip hop started, you know, in New York, you know, like from the, you know, like from the trenches and the streets. But now, yo, like things have evolved to where not everything hip hop has to be
Starting point is 00:51:16 the hood and some street shit, right? It's only the hood. I don't think so, man. You don't feel like it could be black culture, though? No, it's not. Because all that. It's a former black culture, though. It's more street urban culture.
Starting point is 00:51:27 It's just we happen to be the face of street urban. That's what more, it's more important. You mean? Like, it don't, like, evolving is not saying it's inclusive. Like, it still represents, culture is evolving. Chicago wasn't that Chicago 20 years ago. That's different places evolve in culture,
Starting point is 00:51:45 but it still represents those hood places. And without the hood, there is no hip-hop. There's no hip-hop out of the hood. It's only fans of hip-hop out of the hood. It's not even hip out of the hood. I feel like the hood is definitely but the origins of hip-hop. but in 2022 i wouldn't say like all these rappers like a drake like a jack harl or set etc like those guys are disqualified from hip hop just because they're not from the hood
Starting point is 00:52:11 because but i felt like it was parted hip hop started with partying like co-hurt inside a project yeah but everyone that was partying wasn't hood it was just black partying in the projects yeah but yeah i so whoever went to those projects was hood now everybody in the project is not hood though everybody in the project's head so if So if you live in a poor area, you're automatically hood. Like, you look a good kid, Madse City. Like, I'm a good kid by living. You don't think Kendrick is hood?
Starting point is 00:52:37 Yeah, I know I do. But I'm saying, like, I think any black kid in poverty is, is hood. But every black experience is not poor. Yeah. And that's why I'm saying the difference is. So if you grew up in the middle class area of, let's say, Toronto, a middle class Jewish neighborhood of Toronto, it's just different. It's nothing wrong.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Like, rap is the thing about rap that I love is super mainstream. It's for everybody. Anybody can use the vocal delivery that is rap that we popularize, right? But hip hop is specific, and it should always be that way. It's nothing wrong with having more people make rap music. That shit is dope. When you start calling them hip hop, it's almost unfair, and what you create for people that come from where you come from.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Imagine, you know, people saying they, something you find culturally, bless you, thank you. You find, you know, culturally important. It's important that we keep it that way. So where do you guys rank two chains at? because a guy just recently went viral for saying that two chains is the best Atlanta rapper of all time.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Where y'all rank two chains? Now that's the best rapper of Atlanta. Nah. Well, Riley, can you play in the clip, please? So if you go to, like, Josh's email, he got a copy of the notes. It just played the clip. You know what, two chains is pretty dope, though.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Oh, he's nice. Two times is nice. Not top, though. I can't put chains over tip. Yeah. I can't put chains over tip I can't put chains over well
Starting point is 00:54:03 wicked hair right now it's muted and I stand on that two chain is the greatest rapper of all time and I will I will stand on that like two chains
Starting point is 00:54:15 is over there with little wang two chains is better than Drake two chains is better than 90% of rappers and I stand on that Deppman got
Starting point is 00:54:27 on track pipe greatest record of all time and I will you said that's like two changes over here. The question is though right so one because like okay so not his not him because like that's just blasts me
Starting point is 00:54:42 like I was even trying to like intellectualize two chains being of our time it just blasts me so we were just even re- The greatest rapper nah bra right so like we would right so we were redirected to just Atlanta
Starting point is 00:54:55 now where do you rank two chains in terms of of the greatest rappers of Atlanta. Because, again, like, here, so I believe. If we go on top 10. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:05 He's 10. Is he, is he 10? Listen, or is he top 20? He's 10. No, listen though. So,
Starting point is 00:55:11 Lado just made a song saying, Outcast, T.I, they're not from Atlanta. No, no, T.I.
Starting point is 00:55:18 T.I. is from Atlanta. Amarita. Yeah. So she wasn't saying T. She's saying, T.I. from Bankhead.
Starting point is 00:55:24 So she wasn't talking about Banghead. Got you. So, if we're just going by the general discussion of Atlanta or by the actual, yo, like this person here, it's like a county
Starting point is 00:55:34 a mile away from Atlanta, just a general like conversation. General conversation, I'll probably put T.I. Above two chains. I'll put Luda, Chris. Luda. Outcast. Future. Uh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:50 95 million. I'll put the Migos past two chains. Yeah. Now, the Migos is a good conversation because I like the Migos, but I do like chains. a really good conversation. Gizi, you put in, well, do you know, you won't count him because he's from,
Starting point is 00:56:02 do you not, because he count from another part of making? Yeah. Even though he rapped Atlanta. What about Gucci? Yeah, because people are saying that Gizi isn't even like nowhere like near like. Yeah, he's from a different, but I'm saying because he
Starting point is 00:56:14 repped Atlanta, do we just, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're saying without Gizi. No, no, no, no. Like, just like, like the general conversation, so Gizi will count as well. He's above two change. And soldier boy? I'll put Gucci means.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Soldier boy. Above two chains. I don't know, but he's, hopped in the beef the song the song that you're talking about he's from a lot of places though the song that you're talking about it was a bunch of like beef and shit going on when it came out
Starting point is 00:56:39 and he hopped in yeah so it's a lot of places though man so I don't know if we can even put soldier boy in the land discussion playboy carty nah man we can't put playboy no playboy carty's like the song above two chains right now no no boy like Cardi hasn't done
Starting point is 00:56:54 enough yet to be above two change Cardi is like if you know no he's big He's a legend. No, listen, he's shoes, but he hasn't done enough yet for being the player. He should be on that list. Above two chains. I like quite a lot, too.
Starting point is 00:57:06 I like that 10. Yeah. A little baby or two chain? Right today, two chains. Okay. Right now. I don't have an order, but I think. Young thugged, though.
Starting point is 00:57:15 No, young thug over two chains. Definitely. Exactly. No, that's not even a question. Wait, I wasn't agreeing with that, but I was adding him to my list. I don't know if I'm not going to be gunned over chained just yet. True. I might even get gunning a little bit.
Starting point is 00:57:28 over chain yet no like thug like listen thug has done a lot and thug also like defined the sound you know right what's that like like like like you know again like the whole like mumbled melodic shit that was thug you don't think that was future no man i was not that was first thug did it like i think that's future did it like future that's future he did it more with the deep voice no future was actually saying shit though like thug was melodic like thut future is melodic too no no no no but here's where like things like things are you know uh type of different. Thug was like what we call mumbo rap, right?
Starting point is 00:58:02 So Thug was the melodic mumbo rap. A lot of people think Future's mumble rap. Oh, now, Future has to be saying shit. They all be saying shit. They all the rap are saying shit. I think what you can understand is why you call that mumbo. Yeah, right? So Thug shit was more like undecipherable.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Right? So Thug created the whole mumbo rap which produced a Uzi, the GARDIS, a low pump, you feel me? But you don't think Future created Thug? It's just like for me, the whole Drake style not credit that to nelly and jarroo no bro Wayne created thugs yeah no because rich homie kwan was more when rich omiccona young thug were together rich homie khan took all the future sounding like no one ever thought i think it's future i think i do think thug is future is future
Starting point is 00:58:43 okay yeah that's that we would have to get at the future we got we got to say thud is future though because think about the impact uh why south well thug and future is over two chains right now all elana right now is all him all the new elena artists and now that they're all going you're going to see the effects of what happens to Atlanta when because I know it's crazy too right Rob right and those crazy too because even the thought right because like guys like little baby and Cardi they're coming up as well so let's say in three or four years God forbid the Rico dodges little baby right but in three to four years yo guys like Cardi and little baby will be what's would like have surpassed two chains right so I don't know you got to work a little
Starting point is 00:59:22 Thug, that might be a conversation. But I don't know. I think we kind of really take two chains for granted, honestly. Of course. I think maybe. Shit, I don't know. Thug is some shit on his own right. He's a different talent.
Starting point is 00:59:37 We probably do take him for granted, but greatest of all time as well. That's not. That's wild. Him coming from Titty Boy to Tudgeon. I tell you one thing, I don't think nobody can bore him out on the rap record. I don't think Andre. I don't think, yay. Bards.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Nobody can bore him out. No, a little baby can't bar him up. He can rap. I tell you, Doug can bar him up. I don't like think that. Jeezee can bar him up. No, nobody breathed in the head.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I don't think I would put him on a song and I think somebody would just have a much better version. He bought him. Mercy. Nobody from Atlanta? Or period. Nah. He body Connie can't even push it to you.
Starting point is 01:00:09 I think it's going to be tough to body him on. I don't think I think fabulous to body too, Jay. Listen, listen. When Drake wrote Western Road flows, that proof to me that Drake's pen, I'll put Drake's pen game just in terms of like his rapping ability bro it has to be top five of all time i'll probably say this is j electronica is who i will call a got here rapper meaning like like his like his bars that's a good taste
Starting point is 01:00:36 yeah right that's pretty good you know no he's like the he's a got tier rapper to me and i'll say j j j has a you know has has has like a rap level that i believe nobody else has touched yet so jeltronica is the in right right right right Right? And he's a got-tier rapper. Then below him, Wayne, Drake, Jay. Kendrick. I wouldn't say Kendrick is in that category yet as like spit us under J. Ultronica. No. That's you. No, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:01:09 Sorry, thank you. You know what? I'm not mad at that. I have listened to the Electronica and realize what he does is pretty phenomenal. Exhibit to me, I've never seen rapping like that. that before bro. No, that's really one of the most special rap. I'm proud of you. He got the best verse on Donna, too. I mean, Don was the first album. Yeah, bro. Yeah, that exhibit C is, that's really special. That's different, yeah. Let's get into some, uh, drama. What are we got a lot, we got a lot of rap talk going on. Let's get into some, some messy shit. All right, let's, can you break down Soldier Boy and Charleston White? Yeah, so, well,
Starting point is 01:01:46 first of all, I'm not even sure exactly what Soldier Boys issue with Charleston White is, but I do know, like Charleston White has said some like foul shit so you know he yeah he sat on say cheese charleston white uh said the soldier boy he was like um he was coming at him because you know how he came at young dolphin ordin for dying he was like you ain't really built like that like you ain't like these dudes if you would like these dudes you would be dead man it's a video with charleston white and i get the whole like shock value and all of that but that man disrespected nipsy and king va and he said he said that he said that he praised that every gang member dies like that now I don't support that you know like me personally saying I don't
Starting point is 01:02:27 wish death or nobody right saying that all gang members should die to me that's some foul shit but let's just talk about like the like soldier boy stuff first yeah and then we can like discuss that video because like we you know also you know got a clip but you know here's my whole thing so soldier boy I guess fell insulted because Charleston white told him you know like you're not like young dolphin draco you know you know like these guys I can understand it now what so your boy wanted to talk to Charleston White. Now, here's why I'm kind of proud of Charleston White in this regard.
Starting point is 01:02:59 He takes the role of a civilian gangster. Now, I'll say this. Like... That don't even go together. Exactly, right? It's like quiet noise. It's like... Like Biggie Smalls.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Yeah, it's like... Horrible idea. No. But, though, right? But, like, and he calls himself a civilian gangster. And here's why I'm proud of him, right? Because first off, and here's why you can't beat a civilian gangster. A nigger who would tell you, listen, you have morals and ethics.
Starting point is 01:03:31 So if I shoot you, you won't tell on me, but if you shoot me, I'll call the police before you even leave my house. A nigga like that. What are you proud of? Well, here, right? So here's what I'm proud of. He's standing his ground. This is some super unhip hop-hop shit to say you're saying. No, no, no, no, right?
Starting point is 01:03:49 But like, and here's why I'm part of Charleston White. He is at least standing his ground whenever he's approached, right? Is he? Yeah, bro. He put out the maze and that this. Is that standing your gram? Oh, also too, right? Well, wait, wait, right?
Starting point is 01:04:05 And also, too, there was a video that surfaced afterwards where I believe it was a Pyrout dude. I don't know your, like, name, bro, but if you, you know, are watching, please comment it. But Pyrout dude approached him for comments about the Pairoo. And, yo, he squared him and say, yo, what's up? You mean when he got behind the lady? Well, he did, like, square up first, though. And bro wasn't really, like, pressing his issue, you know?
Starting point is 01:04:28 I think it's a little bit more complicated. Soldier Boy, I... If Soldier Boy is like that, then you definitely... Look, I'm not going to ask him to confront anybody because that's not really what he's about. I think he's not a civilian gangster. I think he's a civilian. I don't think there's nothing gangster about that.
Starting point is 01:04:45 He's dangerous, though. He's like... Well, he's a gangman. right? Like he was a game member. Well, he was, he said. No, he's not. Damn. And he said that he was rolling with the 60s. He's not.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Damn, okay. Well, Charleston White, definitely respond back, man, because you said Tripping now, you feel? No, no. It's not that. He's a civilian, he's not really a civilian gangster. He's a guy that has a lot of knowledge. I mean, a really smart guy that misuses
Starting point is 01:05:12 the stuff that he's doing. And it's very misleading. You know, the thing, like the thing about gangbanging, like I understand a lot of his impressions, or even with Soldier Boy, but there's a way to do anything better. And then there's a way to do things
Starting point is 01:05:31 with intentions of just being an outlier. It's somebody I've met, somebody I talk to, really, really intelligent, dude, but I think he's just taking a real dangerous path. He's taking it too far. And it's not really good. nothing gangster about it. That's not gangster.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Gangster is different. I mean, and it's, to maize somebody for sure you would get beat up. Like if you went to the hood and you told somebody else you maced them, we'll probably just beat you up
Starting point is 01:06:02 because you just made us look stupid. Now, Charleston guns, though, like he was, you know, he was funniest nigga on the fucking internet. So Charleston White had a video where he was talking about, yo,
Starting point is 01:06:11 I dare you niggas to pull up if you want to and he had the biggest guns I've ever seen. So he's, so he's saying, yo, I'm willing to take it where you're willing to take it plus
Starting point is 01:06:20 I'm a civilian right so you know so again I don't know what to call it but he's just a regular person
Starting point is 01:06:28 most regular people who's an ex-gangster like because he went to jail for some shit not an ex-gangster he's a kid who got lost in the streets and just
Starting point is 01:06:37 signed up for anything and blamed everybody else versus his decisions wait kid what's his occupation like fucking 60 years old right no he's not that old
Starting point is 01:06:47 he's just a little older He's like 40-something. Really? Wow. But he's not a gangster. It's not like gangster to defend your house. That's your right as any man. See, like, somehow we get lost off what being a man is.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Being a man is defending your property. He's supposed to defend his property. It's not tough to defend your property. That's what you're supposed to do. It's not him being gangster or any of that stuff. He's just being a man. But again, I just think in that particular situation with Soldier Boy, if you got his name in your mouth,
Starting point is 01:07:18 just wouldn't amasty we could have had a conversation that we could have squabble that's being a man but if 12 niggas is walking towards me i'm not waiting for 12 enemies to come and step up to me towards you that mace wouldn't work on our 12 they'd have ran your ass down hurt you so the story is incomplete for sure because if it was 12 if anybody and you got one can of mace they're going to get you yeah yeah what does he do for a living who like is he's a YouTuber speaker no but he's like he's like he's a activist in Texas but he actually um dropped the interview like Like four or five hours ago with academics talking about the soldier boy situation. And the thing is, Charleston White, he's not a gangster.
Starting point is 01:07:54 But the thing that everybody got to understand, he is dangerous. Like, he will hurt you. Like, he literally broke down and said, yo, every day I prepare to hurt somebody. But when he did the soldier, where he actually did hurt the, because they ran. He didn't hurt him. He's not going to hurt anybody. Let me tell you something about being a civilian. You're not going to break the law.
Starting point is 01:08:13 They're not going to hurt anybody. But if they attack you, though, because that's the thing, everyone's going to approach him. he's going to have the right to stand his ground. Again, it's not even to stand your ground, law. He's just playing on borrowed time. It's a bad situation. He's not a dangerous man. He's not any of that.
Starting point is 01:08:28 He's somebody who understands the power of the internet and being somewhere where people can't get to you at. And then making yourself not available to be accountable for what you say. Well, here, Charleston White has a violent history, though. No, Charles & White went to jail for a crime. We don't know his history. Somebody can tell you anything.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Yeah, of course. No, because he claimed he went to jail for a violent. body. Sure. Now, nobody has pulled up his paperwork yet, so, you know, we really can't confirm that yet, right? So, you got to find that paperwork. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Yeah. We can confirm you yet. Somebody that's a killer is not violent or dangerous. Depends on what kind of killer you are. It depends on a lot of things. Charles de White is a really smart person, but more than anything, he uses intellect to be cunning and be misleading. Of course, some of his points make sense, but then some of them are just ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:09:16 And it's all for the same thing. And it's all for game. It ain't really for to help empower anybody, to break any cycles, to break any curse. It's not for any of that. And it's really important that people see that. This is not somebody like, this is somebody I have respect for and had a lot of respect for at one time. You know what I'm saying? He's not just some person.
Starting point is 01:09:36 And it's important. Nothing about him is dangerous. He's not a dangerous person. Has this disrespectful angle always been what he does? If I would have played the video rally? My opinion is he reacts like a woman. You know what I mean? And I'm not calling him like a bitch or he wouldn't stand up for himself.
Starting point is 01:09:56 He's a man. But it's more emotions. It's like, okay, if you say something I don't agree with, I'm going to say anything to hurt your feelings. So I'm going to say the most foul shit to you. I could say because I want to hurt your feelings more, something that you would do to a guy. It's not really masculine.
Starting point is 01:10:12 He don't settle things in a masculine way. He don't settle them. It's not gangster. It's just being a man. Being accountable is being a man. man. If you say something about somebody, as a man, you should want to be accountable. If you sitting in this podcast room and you're saying fucked up shit about people and you don't want to deal with the shit you're saying, you shouldn't say what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Exactly. And that's my, that would be my thing with him particularly. Let's play the video. Dog, crips and bloods. Death to all GEDs and BDs. May they all die like in vain. Yeah, we don't close sides of all. die like Drachio the ruler maybe I all die like
Starting point is 01:10:49 Nipsey Hustle in vain Alright so So I do want to say this We don't co-sign this weird shit Nothing about this is funny entertaining Like it's just It's a real clown shit right here
Starting point is 01:11:01 That's some weird, nigga That's weird That's weird That's clown shit That's why I don't get Why somebody would look at that For two seconds And think he's dangerous
Starting point is 01:11:08 That motherfucker's not dangerous Man he's a fucking horny comedian at times Like to shout a bunch of names of people that you haven't heard It's not really gangster or dangerous Draco is not even a gang member Yeah, of course Draco is not a gang member at all
Starting point is 01:11:26 Draco is not a gangster So then just to even say that name Is just you're trying to upset people that's a fan That's why he's not naming regular gang members who have died What do you like count though as a gangster? Like what's your definition of a... A real definition of a gangster You're part of a gang
Starting point is 01:11:42 Somebody who really got got put on, not an official. Got you. Okay. And they get it cracking. Like a gangster is just somebody, like a gangster don't mean you steal purses. It just means you're willing, you're part of a group of people willing to commit crime to advance your agenda. Of course, of course. That's all the gang is. And he's not a gangster or Draco is not a gangster.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Draco is a man that did what he had to do to survive. So even, he just naming names that people have fans. Now, here's where his stance to me is hypocritical. Because at Nipsey's funeral, he wrote. with the 60s, he was, you know, in the car, upfront with dumb, right? He familiar? No, but he was coming out here.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Yeah. But then he left Nipsey's funeral, and now he's doing some shit like this. And to me, loyalty to me is everything, meaning, yo, like, Adam put me on. I would never in my life leave here, then talk shit about Adam, you know, right? So for him to roll with the 60s,
Starting point is 01:12:39 be embraced like that at the funeral, be up front, And then leave that shit. Now he's out here saying, Fuck Nipsey. To me, that's some wild shit. But that's why I think in some cases, I don't know what his relationship is with them,
Starting point is 01:12:51 but sometimes we got to be held responsible for the people who we coson. That's a super important thing. It's a lot of people that I fuck with personally, that I don't fuck with publicly because I don't want people to think I stand for their message. The thing is, it's easy for, you know, him to shout out a bunch of people that's 2,000 miles. There's Crips and Bloods right in. his community that died the same way that if he wanted to really get smoke he can name them people
Starting point is 01:13:19 he can name everybody from fort work in dallas that is crips and bloods that died just like that that people love right there that where they would see him he don't name those people he's going to name somebody thousands of miles away in a different state because it looks tough to the to the audience who don't know what tough is so they're not about he naming nipsy hustle the 60s I mean gang banging is a poor sport It ain't like, you know, you're talking about gangs or, you know, 60s can't be too long with the grape street because they just, it's too much gas money in between them. It's a poor sport. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:54 It ain't a wealthy man's sport. So let alone a plane ride to another state that's in a place that got the hugest state in America, he could, if he wanted, you want to see what's tough, you want to see what's dangerous. If he's dangerous, he starts to do that to the people in Fort Worth that died. Yeah, in Texas. To the Chris and Bloods in Fort Worth that died. To the gangsters that's in for work, the ones that's in Dallas, start saying nannes. You'll see all the action that you want. How about his assert?
Starting point is 01:14:19 He literally like yesterday or two days ago, he dropped the video and it was titled, I apology to King Vaughn and to Nipsey Hustles. He was basically saying like, yeah, I'm doing all of this to gather attention. He's like, I'm disrespecting these rappers. He's like, I'm not disrespecting the actual person in him. What? Yeah, that's like he literally like, I apologize to all of them, but, He's like, I'm doing this.
Starting point is 01:14:43 But that's a coward way out, though. But it's like, he's getting attention, he's saying. But it's like, carter way out, right? And here's why there's some coward shit. So, so, so, so, so he's saying when he makes that video, it says F. King Vaughn, and he's not talking about Mr. Bennett. He's talking about the rapper King Vaughn. When he says F. Nipsey Hustle, he's not talking about Airbus.
Starting point is 01:15:01 He's talking about the rapper Nipsey Hustle. To me, that's some car, you know, like, that's some coward shit, right? He's just manipulative. Yeah, bro, bro, man. Again, like, we can say, you know, you know, you know, you know, Like one person is a persona opposed to who they really are outside of the public's eye. We all understand that. We're not stupid, bro.
Starting point is 01:15:19 But when you're saying, F them, to me, you're saying it initially to get attention. And then once you get the backlash is, oh, no. I'm coping a plea. I didn't mean it like that. I'm not talking. Because what way can you paint that flip it into a positive? You can't. Because, right?
Starting point is 01:15:36 Listen, and here's why it's kind of a shame he's not standing his square because half his message is good. That's the reality of it. He actually has really intelligent point. I've never seen nothing good come from him. Now, half his message is good. It's not, it's not about good or bad. I understand this issue with gang members, but it's also rooted in ignorance. He doesn't quite know, you know, how gangs work. Most people don't. They know boys in the hood. They know men in society. They know colors. They know, you know, you know movies, Snoop, a rap song. They don't really understand this built on love and people that are family and friends. You know, there's things that go wrong. So
Starting point is 01:16:13 he does make at times valid points, but the problem is they are so invalidated by everything else. And it doesn't matter. I'm sure Hitler fed homeless people. I'm sure Hitler, it was a lot of people in Germany at that time, a fair
Starting point is 01:16:29 number of German people that probably their life changed because of the Nazi movement. They may have got further in life, but there's a mass number of people that was violated by all of his actions. And it's just irresponsible. He's somebody that's intelligent. So him to be that irresponsible is retarded.
Starting point is 01:16:45 But for him to be intelligent, whether it's a gang member or not, you wishing that other people die like another person just as black men. That's fucked up and weird to me. That's what somebody is foul. He tells itself that gang members kill other innocent people. So that's where he hangs his hat at. But he don't understand. That's a human being problem.
Starting point is 01:17:07 That's a white process. Right now we're watching Russia and Ukraine kill each over, over what all of us at this table may sit and say a senseless. But we can't make sense of it, don't mean it senseless. It just means it senseless to us. And that's the same thing with violence in the community. Like something happened yesterday at a park, you know, with some guys at a baseball game and they're all senseless violence.
Starting point is 01:17:28 We can't make sense out of it. If you don't know what's going on, maybe it's not worth it to you, but to where people are in that place is worth it to them. No, here, right. But like, I feel like what, you know, like even guys, guys like Charles White is saying, is, you know, yo, like, for example, at a baseball game, I'm not sure like what happened there, but let's just say you see an op at a baseball game.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Yo, don't do this where there's a bunch of innocent people around you guys where one straight bullet could kill the baby, bro. Right? And that's what, like, Josh and White is saying is, yo, like, who's going to hold them accountable, meaning would their friends, would their, you know, would their brothers, would their game, Well, they hold them accountable.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Who holds America accountable for when they drop drones and planes over all these places and innocent people do all the time? Who holds human beings accountable for all of these actions? These are not just poor problems. These are humanity problems. Humanity finds reasons to fight, and they will fight, fight, fight, and it ain't nothing because you could do to change that. I'm not saying it's okay. It's still wrong, though, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:34 But how is it wrong if it's been in existence since there was two people on this planet? war is not some new concept it's not new like people fucking fight you from a country where people fight there's war crimes though listen though right right but there's still like there's still war crimes
Starting point is 01:18:54 meaning if somebody is out there raping and killing and innocent like women and kids there's still war crimes and they are and held accountable by the UN right so but again even in that standard how isn't Hiroshima and Nagasaki not a war?
Starting point is 01:19:10 war crime. It definitely is a war crime. And why is it nobody being held accountable? It can, right? Like me personally, and I wish to, for example, like us dropping bombs and killing and just innocent and pure brown babies, that's wrong as fuck. And somebody needs to be held accountable. But I can also say, yo, this is wrong and that is wrong and both parties need to be
Starting point is 01:19:34 held accountable. Meaning people who are out here like drilling ops and killing and innocent people, need to go back to their hood and their hood needs to say, my niggie, bro, you can't live there, bro, get out. But this is the reality. When you do something like that, the hood does hold you accountable. Like, it ain't like, some reason I think y'all see trap music as this thing about killing versus this thing about surviving.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Yeah. And that's just a weird place for black people to be at as a culture to where we're disconnected from each other in different cities to what we can't see that they're talking about surviving. That's all their conversation, what they're willing to do to survive. God, that's important to know. That's not about this. There's no rappers. It ain't like, this is Charles Manson.
Starting point is 01:20:15 Like, I just killed 30 kids tomorrow and niggas love their rap records. No, they're talking about killing people that they're at war with. They're at war with. So even if you minimize, if you minimal, whatever it is, if you minimize kids in the whole situation and make it like it's not important to you, you're missing a point. So it's really important as black people, we stay tuned in with each other and not ever have the same opinion as.
Starting point is 01:20:39 white folks who don't have access to our problems. But the thing is with Charleston White, a lot of people, like, the thing I realized on him, a lot of people actually think like him. Like, that's the scary thing. A lot, there's a lot of black men, a lot of people that don't understand the gang culture and feel exactly the way he feels. And that's why he getting so big. Why's that scary, though?
Starting point is 01:20:57 Because a lot of people, a lot of people, I didn't, a lot of people didn't realize people really thought like that. That's why I think Charleston White's going so viral because he's saying certain stuff. And then, like, when I went back to New York, I'm like, my family stuff. And then somebody was watching Charleston when I'm like, yeah, well, I agree completely with him. And it's like he's, he knew what he was doing. He's tapping into a saying like he's not trying to connect to the gangsters.
Starting point is 01:21:17 He's not trying to connect. But it's not about connecting the gangsters. It's about ignorance and educated and informed. So yes, the average black person is ignorant or emotional about what's going on versus tapping in to really care and make a change. It's easy to sit back and just scream negative shit about another black person. Everybody in this country pick on poor black men. You're just another nigga doing.
Starting point is 01:21:38 it. Exactly. If you're not standing up or trying to change their life, like feel me, and I'm not taking no credit away from Charleston because he do stuff positive for children. Like, I know some of the stuff he's done. But it's also a bunch of grown men that need help that went through the same thing. And they don't have your intellect. And it's not
Starting point is 01:21:53 cool to manipulate other people that have fears, you know, fears of the community, right? That have you know, again, they're uninformed. There's no real, like gang culture is just regular shit. It's not special. I don't get what the fuck people be talking about. If me and you together, if we all walking right now,
Starting point is 01:22:10 somebody start whooping your ass and we together and I grew up with you, what I supposed to let them just keep whipping your ass? If somebody walk up and shoot you, we didn't grow up together, all of us together. He shot you in front of us. You don't think I'm going to go smoke this motherfucker? That's not crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:25 It's crazy to not think this way. It's crazy to think it's okay for something to happen to your motherfucking friend, and you don't want to do nothing. Yeah. Now, as a society, we all come together and we say we can exist this way with laws, so we can keep violence to a minimum.
Starting point is 01:22:40 But then once you start realizing that shit don't work for you, you almost have to take a 1% of approach. I don't know how a black person in America with all this oppression and racism that it's a history of, how the fuck do you even follow the laws? Why the fuck would you follow the laws?
Starting point is 01:22:55 Laws that you know literally are made for you not to prevail. That's just crazy. You got to be the craziest motherfucker in the world. Nah, but like, I feel like as a society, there's things called ethics, right? where we all need to have some form of ethics, meaning, like, respect for laws and regulations,
Starting point is 01:23:13 for us as society to survive, meaning, like, if we all just go by our own, like, rules and laws, then, like, we'll be a fucking abandoned society, right? Like... I agree. I totally understand society, but think about it, right? We was telling we was having this conversation earlier. Think about everybody wanting to do what they have to do, right?
Starting point is 01:23:30 You feel like you've done things that you have lied and broke laws? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Of course, course, right? So I'm not saying, I totally understand the concept of society and I'm all for it. Of course. But I'm also mindful, you know what I'm saying, of what society I'm trying to integrate into. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:45 And I'm not saying it's right or it's wrong in his particular situation. I think it's misleading because he's much more aware and he needs to general public to believe. He's an extremist. So where Charleston White, you know, like to your point, people think like Charleston White, but they don't think like Charleston White the extremist, meaning like Charleston White point of saying, you like let's end the violence blah blah yeah of course right like most of us think like that but yeah but where he goes wrong is when he goes into some bozo shit like that yeah saying deaf to all gang members death to draco death to Dempsey that's where he goes wrong by like
Starting point is 01:24:22 taking just shit just to the fucking extreme but it's not he's really appealing to a fan base what he's doing is mass marketing to his fan base right and then he's giving another message to pluck the ones who are retarded enough to stand right there while he's still talking. That's what he's doing. It's not really, it's not really genuine. And I'm not mad at that. I mean, that's his method. But how would I argue with somebody that's saying that about, first off,
Starting point is 01:24:46 Draco is not a gang member. That's just ignorant. Yeah. So that means you just don't know. So then you just name it popular people. But we know that. Yeah, but he knows that. He's not, trust me, he's not.
Starting point is 01:24:57 That motherfucker is like Satan personified. He understands. how to manipulate people at the masses. He is not, the niggas a pimp, he thinks like one. He knows how to manipulate human beings. And people don't know when they're being manipulated, even for purposes that you can identify
Starting point is 01:25:15 with. Like, I'm with it, but at the end of the day, it's just irresponsible, and it's worthless, and it's going to be a bad situation to happen to him, and I'm genuinely going to be sad, because it's like, you have so much potential to do right for us as a as a people. I think the role he took is in hip-hop, he's trying to be the hip-hop
Starting point is 01:25:31 villain. Like, him in Six-N, I feel like they play the same role where we're not used to. Six nine is not a villain. He's a hip-hop villain. No, he's a hip-hop villain. Six-nine is a rap. Yeah, that's a, what's a villain, though? A villain's not a gangster, though.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Yes, a villain is a gangster. A villain is a gangster. A villain is a gangster. But he was snitch. He was snitch. He was snitch. No, the Joker is the biggest criminal in town. But he snitched, though.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Before six-nine ride it, though, and he was a villain. He was a villain. He was a true. He was somebody who people picked on, and he stood up for himself. He put a hit on Chief Keys. That's a villain shit. Because they're having conversations with each other. That shit is normal.
Starting point is 01:26:08 But what I'm saying to you is, y'all, okay, so I'm going to give y'all generation some. Y'all got to stop letting everybody manipulate y'all. Sometimes some people just fucked up. 6'9 is just a coward who didn't want to be accountable for his own crimes. He's not helping the community. He's not doing anything. But that's why I call it a, I just don't call him a gangster. That's why I think there's a difference between a gangster and a villain.
Starting point is 01:26:28 He's not a gangster or a villain. He's a rat. He literally don't want problems. He wants problems as long as he don't have to be accountable for him. He's not any of the above D. He is literally, he was somebody who grew up in the streets that decided I do not want to be accountable for the hits I put on Chief Keith, for the crimes I've committed. So instead, I'm going to tell on them. And then I'm going to manipulate everybody in my generation and lower to believe that I'm doing this based off of people threatening me versus I don't want to do 40 years in jail because I have money now.
Starting point is 01:26:55 It definitely was about not want to do crime and jail time. Now, when he says, yo, these guys, like, how can you guys expect me to be loyal to them where they weren't lower to me? Like, my thing is this, like, regarding, like, the whole six-nine shit, you know, like, where, like, my, like, starting point is isn't even, like, why do you expect me to be loyal to them is, bro, like, it's taking accountability, meaning, like, you should, like, go to jail. You know, I snitching is some man shit. That don't got nothing to do with gang. Somehow that's been reduced down to gangs or that's men. See, I didn't, I didn't have thought of it like that. That's being a man, bro, be accountable for your own shit.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Like, a regular civilian, if you worked at a job and somebody did something and you got away with something and y'all both did something, neither one of y'all gangsters. But if this one of them were like, Gina did this, you fucking rat. Yeah. It's all man shit. It's nothing to do with gangsters. Man, men want you to be accountable. Being accountable is masculine.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Of course. Feel me? It's masculine. That's the point of it. It's nothing to do with gangsters. He just didn't, he did all of them crimes. He ain't going to just. for their crimes?
Starting point is 01:27:58 Now, now, Sixth, nine is a civilian, though, right? Because he never got put on. Sixth-nine is a criminal. Civilians is nothing to do with gang bang.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Criminal. He's a criminal. He was a criminal before he met them, brothers. He's been a criminal. Hey, question for you, right?
Starting point is 01:28:12 So if, let's say, now, if Gina goes to, let's say, like Target and shoplifts, and she's like a serial shoplifter, is Gina still a civilian? Hell no. Is she a booster?
Starting point is 01:28:25 She's a booster. Yeah, but I feel like, you know, like there has to be like a line though, right? You know, just because somebody like does some crime, I don't think like they're no longer a civilian, meaning like a shoplifter I wouldn't count as not a civilian. Are there a career booster? Are they committed to breaking the law? Well, like he only had what, like a two, three year period, right?
Starting point is 01:28:47 No, like a. He's only seven. He's like 21 and something. He had already went to jail two or three times. He's a criminal. He's just a coward. Y'all don't have to. It's okay that he could be a coward.
Starting point is 01:28:59 And it's okay you can like a coward's music. We have to stop making it like somebody had to be more than what they are for us to enjoy them. Sometimes you just like cowher shit. It's okay. And at the end of the world, everybody like a buster. Well, while we're discussing criminal activity and gang culture,
Starting point is 01:29:15 you're trying to find which one I'm about to say? What do you guys think about labels taking out life insurance policies on their artists? That's smart. It's nice. It's smart. Yo, here's my name
Starting point is 01:29:28 this, man. Wait, look. So I can't get past a skit, and I don't remember if it was on Dave, the Chappelle show or what it was, or MTV, or what, I want to say Ari Spears was in it.
Starting point is 01:29:39 But it was the, the skit was about the labels shooting the artists, so they streams, their music sales, because of it. Oh, that was, so that's what, that's, when I hear labels taking out life insurance policies,
Starting point is 01:29:51 it's like, damn, was they, or everybody would be putting head out, you know, hitts house on their artist? Nah, yeah, when I hear, this, my whole thing is, yo, all you rappers, bro, burn that shit down. Listen, burn down that infrastructure. Burn down that fucking infrastructure, yo.
Starting point is 01:30:08 You think they're going to kill the artist? Once I heard, these executives are now putting life insurance policies on you niggas, and y'all sitting down and sign these contracts and thinking this shit is all good and flexing your millions, you niggas is crazy. Are you crazy, Nick? Bro, if I, listen, if I found out right that, I belong to a, system that is batting on me dying. Like, for example.
Starting point is 01:30:29 Like, what if Adam 22 had a life and shit? Niggin' bro, what? Burn this shit down. Niggas, you crazy? Bro, let's think about this shit, right? Think about this shit, though. Think about it. Think about it.
Starting point is 01:30:41 If I'm low-pump, right? What about if people was in the building? Oh, no, no, no. Here, right? Like, what I mean, burn it down, like, that little burning butt light, bro, crash that shit, meaning this. Yo, if I'm a little punk,
Starting point is 01:30:53 and I just got a $10-man-dollar deal two years ago, and I'm out here flopping now and these niggas got a sex man down in the like to shirt on me they might smoke me because my music doing bad and that's what I mean when I say
Starting point is 01:31:08 yo like this infrastructure no longer serves black creators bro this infrastructure these labels got no longer serves at some point as content creators again like like like Jay
Starting point is 01:31:23 Birdman Ross dudes who got something type of, you know, pool. We need to come together and say, yo, at some point, this infrastructure, like, we are, like, just feeding new black men to doesn't work no more, bro. It's time to tear this shit down.
Starting point is 01:31:36 And people think that I'm fucking crazy by saying, burn down Apple Music, burn down this shit. What do you mean burn them down specifically? Because you ain't talking about, I'm thinking you're really talking about to torch some shit. It's all my name. I mean, right, I'm not right. You know, look.
Starting point is 01:31:49 I'm a crowd of you. Nah, look, look, look. Lately got in you. He's ready. For example, fuck your contract. We're holding out. We ain't dropping shit.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Listen, like, like. You're paying your rent. Bro, fuck it. Right? But look, though. It's kind of like the NBA, like holdout, right? Where, yo, yo, like, they prepared for five years and said, yo, save your money's up right now, nigga, because, because this day, this day, we ain't showing up.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Why can't rap and say, yo, listen, yo, you motherfuckers, yo, start a union, save up your money, right? It gets, let's just all put into it to, you know, to, like, help the new niggas as well. But, yo, say, bro, like, like, save up for 10 years and say, yo, listen, like, we ain't dropping shit. Fuck this contract, nigga. Okay, now. Let's
Starting point is 01:32:39 hold out. And see who wins. Now, you said you agree. So what do you think the opposing viewpoint is, like, what's the positive here? Why should the label be able to take out of life insurance policy? They should, they should be, now, honestly, for a gangster rap, the way it is, it's like, yo,
Starting point is 01:32:54 it's like 40 rappers are dead So think about all the money they lost From like the all the money they put behind like a pop smoke A scenario and XX10 thousand a juice world These are artists that are selling billions of streams I'm generating over $20, $10 million and then they're just gone So if it's happening back to back To even sign you, it's like I have to because I don't know
Starting point is 01:33:16 You I have to sign it because not only that If you're not dead you're gonna either catch a Rico You're either gonna go to jail So it's like rapids are just disappearing left and right. So as a record label, if I'm going to generate $10 million in you and you're in street shit and niggins is dying where you're from, I'm not. I need that life insurance. Like, it's only right. But do, but do only gangster rappers die? I mean, you got. And the label should take some type of accountability because we've seen
Starting point is 01:33:41 where they sign, because why they're in jail. Come on, yeah. Yo, if you're taking a gamble on this shit, meaning, yo, here, so like, the average rapper is probably hot for like three years. So, like, for example, like King Vine, if these labels no sorry possumel if if these labels are playing out two to three to four post-humanist albums as simple people I say aye my
Starting point is 01:34:03 nigga like you lost an investment nigga but yo you gained it back my nigga right they ain't lose money yeah yeah come on they didn't maximize you could say that they didn't lose no money but them making that money in their head is like
Starting point is 01:34:17 juice world too both I didn't him and juice ex extantation yeah he got joints too They post or whatever that album's called, they're all selling, but when they're selling, you're like, wait, it's selling. If he was alive, I could have had five or six boardies. So you know what I'm saying? It's like, you're seeing it, but imagine if he was a lot. You own a business.
Starting point is 01:34:37 I can respect your mind. Mm-hmm. So you're like, hold up, nigga. Hold up. 10 million dollars? Nine niggas is catching Rikos. What's your response, though? You go to death jam.
Starting point is 01:34:49 I don't know. I wouldn't sign up with death jam. But, if you find out that dumb white boys put a fucking life insurance policy on you, man. I'm scared. Bro, I know glasses, bro.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Your glasses ain't going for that bullshit, man. What are you saying to the new deaf row? I think I think Snoot would be smart. You know, I'm going to be some shit. But I feel your point, though. I'm fucking with you. I thought you were really, I was like, all right, dick and let's be.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Now we're told, you would burn some shit down. Let's go. Let's not a L.A. right. I feel what y'all saying. Both of y'all make sense. I don't really. it's a tough out you know you invest a lot of weirdly I had this thought the other day right
Starting point is 01:35:28 because they said some kid from um Florida died the other day and he had posted like a message saying find me tell his talk about that yeah in the cut right whatever right or different person so dope my issue is that's the first time I heard of him exactly so is it really rappers dying this way or is it they're just calling everybody a rapper because they have a rap Like, niggas might be like more eight hours at UPS.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Like, they don't be like a UPS worker died. Like, I think it's more sensational just to say you using rap lyrics in the case or to say a rapper died because the nigga got four rap songs. Let's look him up too, like, Rowley bands and see like what his music doing. Yeah, and it's like that's like, that's fucked up. I never heard of him. Like, it took him to get killed. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:36:16 So I just, I think they sensationalize in a lot of the conversation. and, you know, they're creating really, you know, crazy stories, like incredible stories to follow to where you see that. And you're like, damn, then you see TOTUS ops. And nobody really knows what happened. This ops could have been waiting on him when he got there. You feel me? Nobody knows.
Starting point is 01:36:36 But if you act like you know the story and you pitch it that way, you back, oh, my God, it was three minutes and you believe you have a story. Now, he did drop six music videos. Now, he started rapping last year. like probably and all together he probably got about fit here so all together got about 45,000 views
Starting point is 01:36:55 all together on his like music videos so how many videos he has total six and like and I don't want to take away his rapper status rest and peace to the brother but I just think that it's not a rapper it's just a really status quo thing to say to make you know what we call our language
Starting point is 01:37:12 rap music you know that we share it's so dangerous people ask me like those rapper being a danger I'm like hell know being a rapper ain't dangerous. Being a crypt is dangerous. Me, being a rapper, it's like you just rap songs. You shut the fuck up and stop talking about people.
Starting point is 01:37:25 You'd be just fine. Of course. Yo, when I heard this story, the Roli band story, my first take was, yo, you gotta know who you beefing with, man. Because, listen, if your op is flaco, you're probably safe to post
Starting point is 01:37:38 I'll be home in five minutes. But if you're beefing with, like, the top op-spotters, if you're beefing with fucking thanos up the niggas always, bro, So listen, why would you even play with your ops like that? Maybe it was his brother. Maybe it was his homie.
Starting point is 01:37:54 I think it's just these are really easy. The trips and bloods, you know, guys in ops. This shit is way more complex. That shit could have been his best friend. Yeah, fuck this bra. Sien he put up the message like, yeah, I'm taunting these niggins. It blew his head off. Bitch ass, niggie, fuck my bitch.
Starting point is 01:38:10 We don't know. You know, we just kind of speaking from outside. So let's shift gears before we get out of here. Iman Schufer Did I say his last name right Shumper Shumper Shumper
Starting point is 01:38:20 Tiana Taylor Tiana Taylor baby daddy Tiana Taylor husband Yo hold up now bro We would not reduce Iman Shumper
Starting point is 01:38:30 like what Like the world champion 12 year NBA Dancing with the stars he won this year I think That's not a reduction
Starting point is 01:38:38 Made over a hundred men hours in his career It's not a reduction He's a faithful black man too Reduce him to Be a superstar Husband Mons Shumper
Starting point is 01:38:46 I'm maximizing him. Loyal husband, Iman Choker. Anyway. Oh, y'all, I want to see if y'all going to agree with what I'm about to ask all day. Struggling rapper, Imai Shrubber. Wow.
Starting point is 01:38:57 See, how you can put a rap on any. He did he hook for 30 years. Diggins would be like retired. He dropped like two albums, though. Yeah. He gets too albums. That shit is two days. He gets busy, though.
Starting point is 01:39:07 He's trying. He gets busy though. He went to funk flex. Yeah. He just. God, I only got 37 miles. He got a rapper. I just seen him and Boogie sitting next.
Starting point is 01:39:16 each other and gas over Erica Badu. Yeah, he's hard, man. He's supposed to. Yeah, but he went stupid. It's Erica Badu. No, he went crazy. If your nigga don't go crazy of Erica Badu,
Starting point is 01:39:30 he's gay. No. No, they wrapped over one of her beads. Yeah, rap wise. No, no, no, no, no. But she is fine. He said, fucking Ericabadoo. Yeah, no, I want to say,
Starting point is 01:39:43 Can I get a... What the Shepard say, Gina? He said, he said, said that men should pay all the bills in the house and that men with money don't like women with money? No, like don't like
Starting point is 01:39:56 women to pay bills. Don't like women to pay bills. Yeah. Now, again, now, I'll probably have to hand the men with money conversation to glasses in RTV and Rob. Are you in a relationship? Chill, bro. Like, listen, I'm done talking about my life. Because this applies to you.
Starting point is 01:40:14 If you're in a relationship, this applies to you. No, no, no, no, no. So I definitely will comment on should men pay all the bills. But first, for first, let's just respond back to the, do men with money like women to pay bills? No, no, they don't. It's embarrassing. It is. It's embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Shit. Because it's like, it's, you got it. So it's like, you don't even think about it. So it's like, you don't, like, you want she's with you? It's a proud thing. It's a proud thing to take care of your woman, dog. It's a really special thing to take care of your woman. if you could do it.
Starting point is 01:40:48 And I'm not, again, I'm not saying women, that's how you should judge it, man. I'm just saying if, as long as it's your desire to take care of your woman is the most important part, you know, eventually you can find the means to do it. But it's pretty embarrassing. Nah. If your woman pays stuff, I get embarrassed. I'd be like, damn. Nah, I feel like even now, man, the new way to get on or to get your new podcast lit is to start a podcast
Starting point is 01:41:13 and then say, you all men should pay bills. Because legit. Sure, I agree. Yo, because legit, like, I've seen this like this exact same thing happen. Bro, like the last five-hour videos I've seen is people say, yo, men should pay all bills. Now, here's my thing about men to pay all bills.
Starting point is 01:41:29 Obviously, I'm, like, I'm African. So I do believe in your household, your wife, again, you've been your mom was, listen up, man. Oh, shit. Your wife. Your wife. You just said the most successful way to start a podcast. You found the exact.
Starting point is 01:41:46 opposite. Go ahead. Your wife should be taking care of. But where I kind of disconnect is when I see the bitter bitches chat room, aka the shade room comment section.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Yas! Broke niggas ain't saying nothing no more. Yas! A rich nigga talking. You broke niggas! Shut up. Yaz! If you don't got the britt... What make these bitches think they deserve to be taken care of?
Starting point is 01:42:11 Why is he? Yo, I'm confused, though, right? No, broke girls. What make the hard? who got their back blown out at the trap house by a nigger with Reggie Field semen on a deflated air mattress. What make these bitches think they deserve to be taken care of? What make these hood bitches who discovered Instagram and someone got lit think that they
Starting point is 01:42:31 deserve to be splurged on? The shade room. Yo, here's my thing, right? Things like that for your wife, I can understand it. But when these hood bitches who was getting back shots for $0 got an Instagram and All of a sudden they think they're entitled. Look, me and me, me, bro, if a nigger ain't approaching them with his wallet, they like, bro, I'm not fucking what, nigga?
Starting point is 01:42:54 Bro, I deserve to be taken care of. I'm entitled to a nigger money. That's my issue with these hood bitches, bro. Period. Flacco. What hood bitch have you ran into to hurt you? You ran into a hood bitch? No.
Starting point is 01:43:08 You know, you fucking on Englewood girls? You listen. I love Englewood. I love older. How do you get this information about the sisters? Shade room. Now, I do want to say this, though. I'm not talking about just our sisters.
Starting point is 01:43:21 Now, there are some white girls from the hood. What? Some, some, right? Be nasty. No, listen, here, right, so look. Be nasty. They might have been in life. Here, right, so look, even like past the hood bitches, man, just general women, bro.
Starting point is 01:43:38 You saying you are entitled or you deserve, bro, how, again, man, have you bitches, again, I'm just referring to women who. think they're entitled to it. Yeah, because that's not, that's not a hood thing. Like, women, I have home girls who ain't never heard gunshots before who believe that men are supposed to cater to their every single need.
Starting point is 01:44:00 That's not just a hood thing. And that burnt-house shit. I got something to say to you. Only suckers believe that. It's always a broke nigga getting a pussy. Exactly. You just might not be that broke nigga, you know what I'm saying? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:44:13 So don't believe that whole hoop lie when they get the going about money. Trust me, it's only 13 rich niggas in the world. It's crazy, man. But it's a whole bunch of more motherfuckers
Starting point is 01:44:23 getting knocked down. It's crazy. Yo, bro, they got nervous to the point, yo, like, I watched the,
Starting point is 01:44:29 um, so there's a show called the Kendra G. I love that show. Because all that show is, man, is women coming on and said,
Starting point is 01:44:39 what kind of man you want? And I've seen, you know, a slightly chubby, decent woman, about like a five you know again you know buy like a
Starting point is 01:44:48 you know right five or six right you know five or six you know chibby is slightly fat slightly fat chubbs so chubby that's like chubby that's cool yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:44:58 listen man I'll try to be nice you feel me so slightly chubby as you just went on this whole bitch man come on man I'm with you I'm watching yeah bro I got to check you out
Starting point is 01:45:08 you got me five for six out of ten has one child and she's talking about I need you know it's six six meaning like six feet, six figures, and there's some other six that I'm not even going to describe because that's some diabolical shit, right?
Starting point is 01:45:23 But where have we gotten to a point of anxiety right now where an average woman who is out of shape of a kid can say she wants a nigga who is over six feet? Sorry, no, she deserves a nigga who is over six feet, make over six figures and get in. And by six figures too, these burnt-top bitches are now saying that a hundred K ain't enough. When they say six figures, they're talking about 500. can up. That's outrageous. I'm not one to tell anybody
Starting point is 01:45:50 what they don't deserve, but I think that we should not neglect the fact that men like broke bitches. Men like females that they can take not all men. Some men like females that they can take care
Starting point is 01:46:05 of that don't need much. Men like women, period. It don't matter what she looks like. It don't matter what she got. None of that. We are literally leading. standards when it comes to just enjoying y'all as the opposite sex? I've been informed
Starting point is 01:46:20 I've been informed I was made aware of this fact I was made aware of speak on it I am intimidating because I have my shit together they was lying and I was told this by three different guys this is how things get the coochie bro
Starting point is 01:46:38 like yo he didn't get the coochie well not yours right but that's that lie niggas used he didn't get the coochie I was talking to a guy He ghosts me. We met back up, start talking again. He said, Gina, honestly, I just couldn't fuck with you at that moment in my life because you had your shit together
Starting point is 01:46:54 already. He didn't want to fuck up your shit. He was thinking about you. No, he just didn't know how the date broke. He might have the paper at the time. He might have the paper. But see, what you got to do is when you ain't having no paper, you got to get creative with all your gifts. Women appreciate creative shit, too. They all talk to
Starting point is 01:47:09 that high power dollar shit, but they love creative shit. Well, broke did go crazy. He asked to. Purposeful. Brod didn't go crazy. Purposeful. You got it. That's for sure.
Starting point is 01:47:20 Like you could, like, trust me, I can tell you first. You got some money, you can fuck a bitch however you want to. Yeah. When you're doing bad, you got to go straight. Yeah. That's just the way it got to be. But, I mean, dating can be a lot more creative than we make it. We just not using a creative approach.
Starting point is 01:47:37 Most of the women on Kendra's show or Kev's show and all that, they just projecting dreams, you know what I'm saying? They just want somebody to treat them right. so they think money treats them right. But if the right person came along and was creative about how he loved her, she'd be fine. But niggas, if this is invalid
Starting point is 01:47:54 and this is incorrect and we shouldn't be doing this, niggas have to stop just being a nigga that's just here. They do they doing it. That's cool, too. They're doing it. Do you like that, though? I don't even tricked on yet. Wow, okay.
Starting point is 01:48:07 Now, that's some niggicka tricked on you that you just regarded, disregarding this is whole tricking. Scouts honor? So, niggins. I have not been. and tricked on. I've been in a relationship. I got you.
Starting point is 01:48:17 I got you some Don Perry. I'm so beautiful. Don't what? So now you get to on you. Don Perry on you. Dog Perry. Y'all. Nigger what?
Starting point is 01:48:27 Nigger what? So you can never say nobody tricked on you. Nigel what? He brought a Doc Perry Yon for dinner. I got a blue cup for you. I don't even drink. I don't even drink, man. I got to share this.
Starting point is 01:48:38 No, that's all you because I don't drink. Yeah. Well, I want to drink with you, though. Yeah, there you go. Oh, listen. I try and drink with you. Listen. Yeah, listen, that's that viral shit, right?
Starting point is 01:48:46 Like, how, like, how a nigga buy you a drink in the club and don't let you enjoy your night? Yeah, too. That's that shit right there, right? It's cold. How a nigga, like, buy you a drink in a club and don't let you enjoy your night, bro. This nigga said, nah, you can take it with you.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Nah, I got to work after this, so I can't drink. Like, this is a player. She has to work. I got to work after this, so I can't drink. I like that. I like that. Thank you. All right, we're gonna sip this.
Starting point is 01:49:15 That's a shot to. Yo, bro, every nigga who came that shot they shot at Gina, man, like. But they ain't come with the champagne bottle, though. And nobody brought a bottle in here. Y'all got to step up now. I had an interview. And after the interview, like, bro,
Starting point is 01:49:30 I didn't even know the nigga new Gina. They didn't say, yo, Gina, bro. Can I take you out on a date, man? I said, God damn. I didn't know a nigga new Gina, bro. That's crazy. That's cool. He's from Chester, Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 01:49:43 How do you? for Chester's Pennsylvania and no Gina. Shout out to that kind, black man. No, she's killing out here. That's what. Thank you. Thank you. Nah, that's crazy, man. You know, look, so, like, what do we miss? We miss Roddy Rebel.
Starting point is 01:49:57 We miss YK.O. Cyrus. Hey, do we, like, care to talk about the CMD shit? Oh, we miss the church. The church getting robbed. Oh, that's crazy. Oh, yeah. But we only got four minutes. I just too.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Nah, not, fuck, though. We got more minutes than that. Yo, why would you play the clip? $400,000 worth a jury to a church? That's, bro, that's my first argument right there, bro. I saw that. I was like, that bastard. Hey, all right.
Starting point is 01:50:20 So, y'all didn't, but look, y'all didn't think that that was like some inside shit? Of course, that's what I think. $400,000. Why do you have 400K work for jewelry as a pastor? Somebody should rob you. But I thought that was like a cumulative amongst all of the church powers. Why would you wear a jury to church? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:38 I said, but why would somebody be wearing jury to church? But why do a pastor have 400KK word for jewelry? Why does anybody wear jewelry to church? To flex for the Holy Ghost? I'm a little good for God. I don't have nothing to do with jury. Nah, yo, listen. I'm wearing every chain in the sanctuary.
Starting point is 01:50:58 This is a gift from the Lord. God probably be shaking my God probably be like, these niggas hair, man. Hey, if my greedy could come in there with that big ass hat, I hate when the women do that. can wear my chain. The bank contests. Oh, I got this. I'm in the server.
Starting point is 01:51:16 Oh, good. Take them that shit off. Man, boy, things that people do in the Lord's name. Lord's name. Poor God, man. God, God put this on the earth for me.
Starting point is 01:51:26 I genuinely feel bad for God. Like, it's that crazy, like a regular old shitty knick can feel bad for God. I'd be like, God, you just did all this shit for these niggins. Like, to wear their Rolex chain and church. Wait, but what did y'all think? I'm up for the stupid niggas though, and who gave enough, who get, listen, like, niggas probably make like 30k a year than give 10% to a nigga who is
Starting point is 01:51:45 sporting 400K more for jewelry. That's crazy. You gotta be the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet, bro. But what does y'all think about the guy who kind of sat there the whole time and just didn't react or anything? Listen, listen, that's my first choice.
Starting point is 01:51:57 Play the video. Do we have the video? Yeah, listen, listen. That's my first choice for who lined that shit up, brough. Because that nigga had his hand on the Bible, a move on inch, which is just and then as soon as they left
Starting point is 01:52:09 and he wants to get him to stop a pastor. Pastor, come on my nigga. Listen, again, 300 people is in that church. You're telling me two niggas were with guns walking and nobody died for Christ? Yeah. Nobody died for Christ?
Starting point is 01:52:23 Nobody died for Christ when he got hung on the cross, nigga. Yeah, that's crazy. Jesus hung up on the cross for multiple days. Nobody risked in life. May, come on, God. You take that die for the nigga that's preaching to work. Wait, $400,000 away for jewelry.
Starting point is 01:52:35 If a government walk in with 300 of us in there, bro, somebody got to like take the fall, bro. Rewind it. Niggas is hungry, bro. It's not to go to church. Yeah, big in our lake. Ooh, that man got on the floor immediately, man.
Starting point is 01:52:52 Brooklyn don't play, nigga. That's what I love Brooklyn. But their back is turned and like... Thank God for Brooklyn. Come on, man. Like, they ain't mob them. Now, after I heard it was 400K, I'm definitely in support of it, bro.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Like, dumb Negroes or Robin Hood. Why would you be wearing a fucking chain to church, cause? Look at that nonsense. Thank God for Brooklyn, man, never lets me down. Come on, man. Wait, so.
Starting point is 01:53:17 Brooklyn never lets me down, bro. So the jewelry... Brooklyn makes everything right with the world for me at time, I know that's crazy, but it's true. Well, he stole, what they stole all together was not $400K. It was just the pastor's watch was $400,000. Really? No, I'm asking.
Starting point is 01:53:32 Well, I just heard $400K if I went for joy or so. Just worth. Okay, okay, okay. I'm not sure. Why would you wear it at the church? Yeah, and it was a recorded on a live stream. Preaching of poor folks, too. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:53:44 No. That's a watcher right there. When rappers get robbed in the community, I'm like, why would you wear that there, bro? Is that a, is that a cool lick? That's not, the church ain't a lick. The church is a great lick. A $4,000 is a great lick. I don't think his watch costs that much.
Starting point is 01:53:59 I think that's how much jewelry was in the room. I'm telling you, if you got $400,000 worth of jewelry, that's a lick. That should be nowhere near where poor people are. Y'all seen first, what is it, first Sunday? No, I, no, I see. Of course you. I'm sure. What's that?
Starting point is 01:54:16 We know it is. We don't, y'all don't got an 8 o'clock no more? Oh, I think Jinyon is supposed to come in soon, right? In fact. Well, nobody getting us up out of here, so you want to go to the other stuff? Why Carrosir, Cyrus got mad at it. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:54:33 Let's talk about the BLM shit. Hey, Riley, can you please pull up the BLM shit, please? Thank you, Riley. yo Riley did great today man without Josh Riley always do good yeah bro Riley is amazing
Starting point is 01:54:48 give Riley give Riley producer credits yo listen man yo Riley really holding right here because like this is the most clips we've played because we're really trying to
Starting point is 01:54:57 up the production of this show right alright alright so rewind it wait I pause it I listen right so look right so here's what's going on
Starting point is 01:55:44 right and you know I'll bring it down for you So a man was shot and killed in Minnesota by the police. And the man was Andrew Peckle, right? Now, no, sorry, it's Andrew Sundberg. Now, what happened was that man shot into her window when she was fixing dinner with her kids. Police got called. There was a standoff and he was eventually killed.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Now, niggas put on their marching boots, you know, like called their grandma for their best Negro spirituals. And they were, like, marching the streets and singing Negro spirituals marching for his death. And she is confronting them and saying, hold up now, bro. Like, this ain't a George Floyd situation, bro. That nigger tried to kill me. The cops saved my life. So now here's my thing to you guys. You ever heard a Negro spiritual?
Starting point is 01:56:28 Way. Well, you know. What? Chair. I just ask you. No one. Chair, say, shit, shit, shit, yeah. Hey, you got to finish the lyrics.
Starting point is 01:56:39 Do you know what? I've watched enough like MLK marches that I've personally, you know. What you're saying? I need you to finish singing that song. No, man. Come on me now, man. Yeah, listen to the butt. But again, I like rest of them.
Starting point is 01:56:52 So do you guys think that BLM is losing credibility? Yeah. After that $10 million house thing? Yo, bro, they finessed. Bro, I've seen this bitch paid her baby daddy a million dollars to run security. Oh my God. He came up. That's so bad.
Starting point is 01:57:07 No, no, no, no. No, sorry. Pay her brother, like one meal to run security. Paid her baby daddy one meal to throw life. like life services, right? You know, so like, you know, put on like... You know, I saw all of these nonprofits really function, too. Hey, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:57:22 Yeah. Profitable. That's absolutely insane. But I feel her, though, being upset with them. This is a different... It's not a George Floyd situation. It's not Trayvon Martin, so I feel... I feel her being upset.
Starting point is 01:57:33 And... I don't really know enough about it, but damn, that's sad. She was screaming. Yeah. Man, bro, you know. I would like to know, though, what those people were marching for if they know the full situation.
Starting point is 01:57:45 You listen up, man. I can almost guarantee you like niggas heard, yo, like a black man was killed by the police. They said, oh shit, yeah, listen up, man. Like, our marching boots have been dormant, bro. Like, we haven't gotten a chance to like march the streets in a while. Let's go ahead and march and sing these Negro spirituals at the type of our lungs. You can't say that to you know one. You got to learn one at least.
Starting point is 01:58:07 You listen, I would go like go like at home today and learn a great one. come back and sing that shit while marching. You know, that's like some real shit, like, you know, like, Negro spiritual. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, you know. But I get what you're saying. You feel like, you feel like maybe that, uh. They're all bored. That's it.
Starting point is 01:58:27 You know, like, they got bored, right? Yo, bro, listen, man, like, niggas be, you know, like, they, like, they, like, miss that feeling of being a victim, right? You know, or, or. I don't think we miss that feeling. That's every day. But not like, no, right? So, right, so, look, so, look, so not us as normal, people, right? Because, again, like, we know
Starting point is 01:58:45 bullshit from bullshit. Like, we would never protest for some dumb shit like that. But there's certain people who love the feeling of feeling like a victim. They love the feeling of saying, yo, I'm an oppressed class, right? Again, we are just in a press class just by
Starting point is 01:59:01 existing in this country. But there are certain situations where it doesn't call for that situation, right? Like that, like, again, the dude who shot in her window when she was making dinner for her kids, that man is a menace. We've had enough injustices to be permitted every now and then to get it wrong. I'm with you, though.
Starting point is 01:59:19 I'm with you, but it's been pretty fucked up for it, so I can understand if you kind of go over the top. I mean, that's what I tell people. I think it's a cool thing, though, like to protest. Everybody wants to feel like that. Yeah, that's crazy. I'm not protesting. Yo, niggas love to the protest.
Starting point is 01:59:34 Let's just skip that point. They want to feel like the civil rights are, right? That's why. Let's get straight to the looting. Yeah, right to the shit. All this protesting and shit. Man, yeah, next level. What did y'all think about YK Osiris coming at Tori Lanes?
Starting point is 01:59:51 I don't know. I feel like, yo, he made itself a joke. So I'm like, yo, like, everybody laughed. Like, that's part of his promo. So I feel like Tori did it more like, yo, everybody laughed at you. So I'm just laugh at the video that you put out. And I think he used that as promo, though. Here it.
Starting point is 02:00:08 Yeah. Here's the video. It's muted. First of all, Tori, I just want to say you wanted the ghost, nigger. I gave you your flowers. You want them once, I look up to you for show. Vocals are amazing. You can't deny that.
Starting point is 02:00:27 So let's get understood. I don't fuck with it. You want to my posts, you know, laugh and giggling at my heart. I don't fuck with you about that. I want to just a baby with you. Or you're laughing at his heart? And that's why I don't fuck with a lot of niggas in the Ns. Because you niggas fake.
Starting point is 02:00:44 You fuck with a lot of niggas. It's great, me. You know, but I get it because, you know, a lot of shit I put in myself, so I get it. But it is certain things I just, you know, I just expect things from, like, to where I fuck with you. Like, shit like that, I don't, I don't cut down. Because if you drop your music, I'm not playing with you like that. I salute anything you do, and I fuck with anything you do. So I just want to say that as all.
Starting point is 02:01:12 I thought it was, I thought it was corny to make a. video about it instead of just hitting them especially if you have to remember yeah if y'all like that y'all that cool and shit like call the nigger hey i didn't appreciate the comment under the post but it's like do you feel like since tory did it publicly that he should do this publicly but he just told her just put a crying laughing emoji yeah here um what does give it comment in caller now what that's given is like you know like when you getting roasted real bad you just said what it's given yeah yo bro that's like you
Starting point is 02:01:43 feminine expression. You know, I don't even know, bro. You can't use that, man. That's a real, flexible, zesty shit. I just said, man. Pause. Hold on. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:01:54 They're going to clip. What you took from it. They going to clip that. Yes. They clipping that. Yo. I never say yas, bro. You said it right now.
Starting point is 02:02:03 They're going to clip that shit. I'm taking my girls' terminology, brother. It's shit crazy. Yeah, exactly. No. But what I took from that is, you know, like, when you're being roasted and, like, I mean, Like, bro, like the entire crowd is laughing. The bat holes up front is out here dying at you laughing.
Starting point is 02:02:18 What you do is then you pick the easiest nigger in the room like to confront for laughing. That's a good take. Right? So when Migos, you know, and a little baby and then was clowning him. Yeah. And he didn't say shit, but he felt like, yo, Tori Lanes is an easy target. I'm, you know, like, use Tori Lanes to sit up for myself.
Starting point is 02:02:34 To me, that's some clown shit. Toary Lange's might be the worst out of all of them. Mm-hmm. I thank Toy Langellings. Gangster. I don't really know about why I, I don't. I haven't heard enough. I haven't heard his music, so I don't really want to comment.
Starting point is 02:02:46 His daddy official, though. Is he dope? Well, again, like, into the music, I don't know, but his daddy is a, you know, like, he's stamped, you know, he's like a real gangster. I don't care. Yeah. Well, he's a, he's talented. He's a talented musician.
Starting point is 02:02:58 He actually got, he's, he's, he's. Declis. Jocquee's. No. But that's because, that's because Jocqueece has a bigger catalog. Okay. Sounds better. Oh, Cyrus for sure.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Sounds better than Jockew. I don't know. I don't know. But he's on Snoop album. I got to shake him out. What song should I listen to? I don't... I'll give you the world, baby girl.
Starting point is 02:03:20 You're in the, uh, uh, uh, earthen. But with, with niggas like that, it don't matter how talented you are when all the clown shit because it just trumped everything else that you that you would be on. I feel like he did that for promo though because we're talking about his song right now
Starting point is 02:03:32 because he did that. Like, to me, I think he's the king of promo. He's like, if anyone laughs, I'm just going to act like I'm mad. Let me put out a video someone. I'm actually cool with so people could have conversations and like, we're having to promote that record.
Starting point is 02:03:44 But he'd be more so seeming like he's the joke in the room and then he just bring light to the situation. Like, I don't think that he'd be intentionally liked the shit with him singing in Drake Kitchen. Like, it was like, all right, everybody clowning me for this. Let me just make the best of it. When little baby was like, nigga, where my money at? All right, everybody clowning me for it.
Starting point is 02:04:02 You know, like. Yeah, he just used it. He's a clown or he. He's the court gesture for hip hop. But today he decided to listen to him for himself. Is he hip hop? No, I mean, I aren't. He's R&B.
Starting point is 02:04:13 He's R&B singer. I would say this, all right? You know, like, he's the court gesture, I guess, for, like, the rappers, right? Right, where rappers would clown the fuck out of him and shit. And he had, like, a hit, like, two years ago. So, like, he's been relevant because he's been controlling. Yeah, worth it was. It has, like, $100 million.
Starting point is 02:04:29 No. Now, that was a hit when it came off. That nigga ain't never had a hit, right? That was a hit. A hit? Bro. The way I got a hit. He got a hit.
Starting point is 02:04:37 Yo, this nigga went viral on Facebook for being, like, a 17-year-old, like, life-skinned nigga who would just. Just like sing, you know? Yeah, you're talking about you too. Yo, I would say this, though. His hands were, because a couple of rappers pulled up and he gave, you know, a couple niggas the beats. Like L'O. T.J., he, you know, he pumbled L'J.
Starting point is 02:04:56 He also just had a baby. Congratulations. All right. These niggas usually had the best hands, L'Kee. I think Chris Brown got a squabble. Yo, Chris Brown, I heard Frank Ocean wasn't turning shit down. Yeah. And Frank Ocean is a homosexual, too, right?
Starting point is 02:05:10 I don't know what that has to do with anything. I heard Frank Ocean was a loco. I heard really great things about Frank Ocean Logan. They say, see Busy might have squabbled him up, but he was pressing his line, so I can respect that. Really?
Starting point is 02:05:24 Oh, that's who... Is Frank Ocean from LA? Yeah, I think so. Of course he is. My nigga Frank Ocean. That's who, what's the call of it was chasing? With who? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:34 He might be gay, but he got hands, so he's good with me. Man. No. No, you got hands. You know, so, like, we're talking about this and on club ops too. Like, can you be gay and gang bang? Yeah, no.
Starting point is 02:05:49 No. I mean, some hoods maybe, but, like, niggas probably gonna beat you. Yeah. It's hard for poor black people to accept, you know, a homosexual culture. Everything else is fucked up for us.
Starting point is 02:06:02 Damn, you're gonna do this too. So, it's tough. It's tough. Yo, I'm real, though. Listen, like, that's like double the impression. Yeah, and you're like, bro, that's why I'd be so let down with the little dude. Lo-Dose-S?
Starting point is 02:06:19 Yeah. Like, bro, you're a black gay kid in America. Like, that's what you're doing? Like, that shit horrible. Here, so, okay, so what's horrible about what he's doing? It's just corny. It's like gay-facing. Gotcha.
Starting point is 02:06:33 It's like, when somebody acts like a gang member, and they just overdo it, be like, bro, that's stupid. That's not really how I go. So, like, that's how I feel what he's doing. Like he had this, they was all pumped up over this dance routine for some video where they was in the shower naked. And I finally looked at it and I was like the dance routine is trash. You got all this attention and you didn't do no creative genius shit.
Starting point is 02:06:55 You could have Chris Brown choreographed this shit. What is that with Jack Harlow when they have the pink? Yeah, I think it was that one. Joe. Even that song, that song is put together well, but it's cheesy. And I just hate that everything about him is cheesy. Like usually gay people are some. of the most artistic brilliant people, Freddie Mercury, fucking Elton John, and he's a fucking
Starting point is 02:07:16 corn boy, and it had to be the first one that's black. That shit kills me. Sylvester was fucking fire. Like, why you got to be corny? Of course. I'm like, damn, you could just be great, you know what I'm saying? Like, Nick Elton John, like, I heard him sing a Dolly Parton song. It was so whack.
Starting point is 02:07:32 I was like, bro, what are you doing? You're a black, young, black gay men in America. That's the depth of what you do. That shit just irritates my soul. No, listen, it's definitely crazy. I hate that corny people. Now, there was some theories, well, like, sparked by him. About the beat he was?
Starting point is 02:07:49 Nah, right? So, like, one day he's straight, the next day he's gay, the one day, oh, I tricked you guys, I'm not really gay, you know? Right? You know, like, he's a big troll. Now, to me, he makes great music or even good music. Oh, God. Right? No, like, he makes decent music, right?
Starting point is 02:08:04 You know, like, he makes good music. How can't have to just get a better, I don't know what's wrong about. I think his hype is better than his music. He definitely. makes good music. Old Town roll is fire. I thought he was going to be a country
Starting point is 02:08:15 like icon. But I knew, but of course he wasn't. Of course he wasn't because they just fucking colonize anything. Niggas don't have no backbones.
Starting point is 02:08:24 Like let me watch his video and make mine. But that song is fire. I think he has so much more to offer the world. I just think he just scratch you at the surfaces. It's lame at time.
Starting point is 02:08:33 Yeah. Not indefinitely, man. Yo, listen, we got 15 minutes over, which, which, you know, we definitely love. week we going three hours.
Starting point is 02:08:42 Who? Awesome. You'll listen up, man. Thank you. Rob, I appreciate you, man. Glasses, I appreciate you. Gina. You'll listen.
Starting point is 02:08:52 Oh, no, we got to do the chat session because I You promised the chat last week. Yeah, here, here. You'll listen. Like, we would not never, ever, ever abandon the chat, man. So chat, ask your questions right now. And then I'm going to pick one
Starting point is 02:09:08 from the chat, all right? I'm going to pick one from the chat. You're listening because, you know, the reason why the Monday show appreciate y'all, man, is because you're the ones that, like, you know, create this shit, man. Somebody says, bro, come on, man. He said, where is Charleston White? Is he on the thumbnail?
Starting point is 02:09:33 Where's Charleston White? Somebody says, what's Gina's only fans? She don't have one. All right, here. So this is a question for Glass. So glasses. So, so, somebody thinks you're homophobic.
Starting point is 02:09:53 Well, what's your response to that? That's intellectually lazy. Yeah. Freddie Mercury is gay. He's a fucking most brilliant motherfucker to ever sing, so he's a jackass. Tell him, kiss my ass.
Starting point is 02:10:03 And your glasses are sad. And nobody's above the criticism. I don't give a fuck if you invisible. If you're gay, straight, I can fuck what you is. If your shit is corny, your shit just corny. I hate when people do it, oh, he's gay, you have to think he's great.
Starting point is 02:10:17 No, fuck y'all. I heard great gay artists. Elton John is fucking fantastic. Frank Gold's fucking cornball. Frank got sold. Frank ain't got the joints yet, but he got some soul. That little dude is a fucking just gay facing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:30 No, no, no. No. A fact. Now, somebody says, flaco, this is crazy question. But which three rappers would you say are living on borrowed time due to the ops?
Starting point is 02:10:39 Ops at Cuando Rondo and 6'9? God damn. And then anybody else, I'm not sure. But, like, definitely 6'9. Because, bro, that niggas, public enemy number one and Coaldo Rondo because he's a wild nigga man um y'all
Starting point is 02:10:54 you all ask more questions folks asked Gina her top three shows are movies of 22 dang of 2020 um okay shows uh do you racing cana come out this year
Starting point is 02:11:12 oh that was last year huh did 50 drop anything this year Tommy was Tommy this year? Yeah Okay so Tommy All Queensman That's yeah And Walling out
Starting point is 02:11:25 Nice shout out to Nick Wiling out is dope Mm-hmm Here's So though Crypto Now look Somebody says
Starting point is 02:11:33 Flacco Are you gonna sit down With AK 47 Yo listen I definitely want to Show me man Now I don't think AK 47 is fucking with me right now
Starting point is 02:11:40 Or fucking with us Because of the interview With Batman Kevel But Definitely tell AK47 We definitely want to have them on. Somebody says,
Starting point is 02:11:51 Flacco, how are you five feet of 300 pounds, nigger? Chill, bro. Come on, man. Does Flacco have a BBL? What the fuck? Yo. Somebody says, Flacco, have you gone to a hood in L.A.
Starting point is 02:12:09 And gave back yet? Well, I have not yet, you know. But who knows? Do you have something to get you? give back yet? Are you in position where you could give other people's stuff yet? No. So why would they ask you that?
Starting point is 02:12:23 Like you just. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Somebody says, in fact, yeah, but there'll be the last of the question.
Starting point is 02:12:35 Here. So our last question is glasses. How do you feel about Saucy Santana? Saucy got some cool songs. Walk in. It's cool. What is it called? Let me see you walk.
Starting point is 02:12:46 I heard that was a dish record they told me. I think you told me that. Was it a dish record to somebody who couldn't walk? No. Rolling, right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That was a guy, yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:56 That was a gangster shit in the world. I did tell you that, yeah. And then I seen the little saucy freestyle. The little freestyle wasn't. Listen, saucy, cuz not bad. I mean, he's still developing. He got some of work, but the walk song is hard. That freestyle was bad, though.
Starting point is 02:13:12 The freestyle was just, but what I like about it is, I like his, uh, I like how he wrapped. He rapped it like he thought it was tight. I could fuck confidence and get you far with me. You know what I mean? If you spit that shit like you think it's tight. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:24 It's like the ugly girl that thinks she fought. The delivery. So I thought I seen that and I was like, oh, this ain't that bad. Then the walk son was far. So you know what I mean? He's a weird looking complex character. It's definitely hard.
Starting point is 02:13:37 He was showing out at rolling loud too. Yo, it was the cipher. My only thing is this, bro. Like, how was the hardest verse that we've heard during the XSL like Cypher or even the most memorable was was a nigga talking about sucking dick like all you other rappers got body by Solsticey Sotan. Yeah like that's the only verse I heard that was crazy but that's because that that right there is the most inflammatory like nobody's no there ain't no more gangster rappers
Starting point is 02:14:01 naked yeah saucy of his shit because I can't imagine him having a verse that killed because I was gonna be my verse god damn that would have not been my verse god damn that's on that verse. You know, listen up, man. We appreciate it, man. This was the Monday show. You all, listen, man, like, y'all tapped in in droves. We appreciate y'all, man.
Starting point is 02:14:21 We'll see y'all next week for three hours. I guess I'm going to come in pajamas. Yeah, yeah, we're out of here, folks. You're going to wear a onesie with me? No, onesie. No, one of the onesies. Hold up. Are we done now?
Starting point is 02:14:30 Shout out to my boy Gil at America Cholo, man. My good people. Right here. Wait. We're already, like, done. Right. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 02:14:40 Wait, wait, wait, wait. Go ahead, go ahead. All right. American Cholo, shout out to American Cholo. Shout out to my boy Gil from American Cholo, man. You already know. Shout out to Gil. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:14:50 I hate folks. Shout to my shows. Are you going live or anything afterwards? No, but a sub to RTTV, sub to glasses below, stuff to Gina views, and sub to poetic flocker. Also, too, I'm dropping a video probably tonight. Me watching white folks say the N-word until somebody gets beat up. That video, it dropped the night. Go tag Lil Wayne in my last post.
Starting point is 02:15:11 Yeah, man. All right, folks. Peace off.

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