No Jumper - The Mr. Swipey Interview: Signing to French Montana, NYC Detectives, 6ix9ine & More
Episode Date: June 9, 2020This interview was recorded on the cusp of the current events. Adam checks in with Mr Swipey who is enjoying quarantine in Miami! Swipey talks about French Montana being his mentor, his relationship w...ith Akademiks, 6ix9ine, upcoming EP and more. ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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There we go.
You got French there, too.
Wow.
What up, boys?
My boy.
What's the world?
What you at him?
Oh, shit.
I didn't know French Montana knew who I was.
My opinion, man.
I watch everything.
Wow, that's crazy.
We got to get an interview one day, man.
Yeah, definitely, man.
You know, when you be talking about the rappers ain't worth where they be at, I'm watching.
Hey, I mean, French.
What's all exactly what I'm talking about?
France Montana is in the best.
position he's in because he's been paying attention to the streets even though he's
risen above the streets right wow thank you bro that's all fat i swipe you right now
thanks the french we hear right now yeah yeah how's that feel to have that new york
connection and to be uh you know keeping the tradition alive frenchman in the game for what like
12 fucking years at this point it's it's a legendary movement right now because it makes it it
It makes it, you know, it makes it like, it's like Jordan passing off the ball.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, like, yo, do your thing, homie.
Like, let's do it.
And the best thing about it, it's like everything he's, like, you know,
it's like being friends with a genius.
Like, you know, he's friends with that nerd in school and not a nerd is Bill Gates.
You feel me?
And that's your homie.
You get what I'm saying?
I was lit.
It's a movie now.
That you go viral.
That's beautiful.
Everything's a movie. Everything's viral.
Just so you know, I lived in Brooklyn, 2004 to 2009, 2010.
Yeah, you know.
You're not, bro. I don't want to hear that cataly shit, bro.
I'm just trying to get put on all the slang.
I hear you guys saying viral a lot.
There's a talk.
I mean, there's always A, but it's always like saying A different and shit.
There's a lot of movie talk.
Yep, the short is a whole thing now.
That's a movie.
The whole thing.
So gris stands for a gentleman literally taking time to think things through or talk things through.
Okay, that's what it's a metaphor for?
Yeah, and then we got pow, because we say gru, fow.
Pau means peace over warmth.
Okay, okay, I got you.
Yo, do you know my man Black Dave from Harlem?
He does a lot of shit for us?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's the first.
one who put me on to you in Ether and shit.
Yeah, that's my dog, man.
Shout out Dave. That's my dog.
Yeah, Dave's in the game.
Dave's been putting me on. He's been telling
me to listen to a lot of, like, the New York artists
like way longer than I actually. I didn't listen to him for a couple
months before I actually got into it.
You were the fucking with us because it's six-nine, huh?
That's your man's.
I ain't my man's, nigga.
I mean, we can't talk too much.
That's funny. That's funny. That's a lot of room right there.
So we're going to keep it here.
We don't keep it regular.
He's a dangerous person to have beef with
because he could just go turn you in.
Yeah, man.
He do 25.
What they're going to do to you?
Saddam, he's going to mind you to, Adam?
He's going to mind you guys.
I'm lucky that I met him in the early days
and then I never had anything to do with them
after the interview, so I didn't get wrapped up, you know?
So where are you at?
You're in Miami?
right now? Yeah, we're in Miami. We soon go to Calabasas, but they took them out
on Sunday down for three months, so we was like, uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah, so you were able to escape
in time. You made it out before the quarantine went down? Yo, right at time. I ain't even going to
hold you. Thank the, thank the French. And thank the God. Thank the God first. You feel
me, gave me the opportunity to just move on right now. It's really, situations was getting crazy in
New York. Yeah.
Or not for...
It's a blessing to be able to escape, you feel on me?
Definitely, yeah, yeah.
I mean, from my perspective, it's like, I'm quarantined with a backyard.
So I remember, I remember, like, where I used to live.
I remember what it was like living in New York in a one-bedroom apartment and shit.
That would not be a fun quarantine, you know?
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
And then imagine it.
Imagine there were roaches and rats and fiends all around.
That's a movie.
That's a different type of situation.
You feel what I was at?
It was crazy.
You know, I was in the basement.
Still dealing drugs and shit like that.
So now we hear, you feel what I don't want to go too much into the lifestyle.
But we hear, though, like, and it's like, I pushed.
I worked for this, you feel what I mean?
So now it's like, let's keep it pushing.
But besides that, we got a whole bunch of new music coming out
And it's great to leave and give my people, like, you know, the talent that I've been working in that basement.
Definitely.
You know what I'm saying?
Besides the other talents that I had.
So you've been exposed to a whole different level of, like, music making in terms of being out there with French and shit?
Because he's, like, a certified hitmaker for all these years.
Like, have you, do you feel like your music is progressing rapidly now that you're in that environment?
Oh, well, definitely.
That's the good thing about it.
Like, people don't know that French is behind a lot of music that's being put out.
Like a lot of stuff, you know what I'm saying?
Like, people actually call them to studio.
Like, yo, we need you to check on this, check on that.
You know what we should put on this, what we should put on that.
So like, just seeing that right there, you already know, you know what I'm saying?
And me and him be giving each other little tips, you know what I'm saying?
He gives me good advice and he tells me like, yo, bro, like, you talented too.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you really got the shit, the shit.
He was built with this shit.
Like I could tell him, you know what I'm saying?
So just that alone, you know, just that alone.
Just that alone, you know what I'm saying?
That builds, that makes you the hunger goes, you go crazy.
You know that builds an ambition.
So then sometimes I'll tell him like, yo, what you think about this?
And I ain't even going to hold you.
Here's what one thing.
I think it cut out for a second.
What were you saying that he said he told you?
Oh shit, he might be getting into the church.
All right, can you just start again after you said he told you?
I mean, it was just cutting out.
Nah.
Yeah, so he's telling me, like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, yo, you're doing your thing, you're good at this.
Sometimes I don't need his help and a lot of stuff.
And the first time he helped me on one of my songs, I was like,
you what the fuck?
You know, because it's like you got engineers sitting with you
and like with people from labels and all types of shit
and friends come in the room, I mean, I'm not to throw nothing in the, you know what I'm saying?
And you're like, damn.
What?
Then I come sitting down,
they're just going to make beats.
All types of shit.
You know what I'm going to know these things?
That's crazy because, you know,
there's a lot of people who are popping out in New York right now
who, let's be totally honest,
are basically doing, like, basic-ass drill rap.
And it's like, you know,
you're dealing with somebody who's seen what it's like
to have a number one hit.
That's, like, a very different level of music.
Not only one, though.
Not only one, this guy got multiple.
Multiple.
Yeah, since summer's like, I ain't gonna lie.
You see all those battles he was going with niggas.
For sure.
You know what I'm saying?
Then that's the thing about people putting out songs
and then making hits.
A hit song is different.
Mm.
Consecutive hit songs, that's something different.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, this thing got shit that's going gold and shit like that.
even know about. He wakes up and he's like, oh shit, what the fuck? I'm saying here like,
you're gonna, shit, that's motivation, you know what I mean? Like, you know, you know who said it
nicely was when Drake said, ain't nobody making too much money off the beef stuff.
You can make a little bit of money off the beef stuff, but.
That's momentarily, though. That's it. That's momentarily. People should learn how to use that
beef and shit for promotion now. For sure. It's not enough. It's not enough. It's not enough. It's not,
What's to do? What you're going to do behind beef? Go to jail?
Let's be serious, fellas. Come on, man.
At the end of the day, man, if it's beef is beef. If it's beef, that is real, real shit, I understand it.
But come on, fellas, we beefing over bullshit, man, dude.
You beefing over shit, that's not even, it's not hurting no one at the end of the day.
He's beefing over a color.
Yeah, does that, a lot of that stuff that you've been around since you were young,
does that seem silly, given that you've, like, kind of risen out of that environment and shit?
because we're still seeing a whole lot of people
getting murdered in New York
even over the last couple months.
Yeah, like more...
All right, so it's fucked up to say,
like, yeah, I was raising...
Like, you know, we're raising the book
on seeing the whole gang shit,
but, like, now it's like...
I've never seen the impact,
not even in game-wise.
Like, I've never seen the impact
of, like, the biggest game,
which is the police.
Never seen that type of impact, like,
happen.
That's what we've really going through right now.
the whole police and killing people and, you know, like, minorities and old sites and shit like that.
I feel like that's, this is hitting me more than my young life, like, than my stuff.
Because it's like, it's kind of crazy.
It's like make you feel like you living at the end of the world.
You feel what I'm saying?
And then people don't understand what us young kids think.
I was like, damn, this shit about to end.
Fuck it.
Then they wonder why we all going crazy.
Yeah, so are you paying a lot of, like, real close to.
attention to everything that's going on with the George Floyd situation and the protests and
everything. It's like a pretty pivotal moment for the country right now. Yeah, man. Like my message
to people is try to just stick together and strategize because like the way people go on the body
right now is like if you're educated enough, the seals and everybody else, like the whole national
guard, everyone is here because of the COVID-19 right now. So like, don't you think that'll be
the easiest way to seal martial law right there and really have them control? They're already
controlling us. We can't go outside. We can't do shit.
We got a shot somewhere way.
What y'all think of it happened if they make
it one step further than what they had
it when it was really shut down? Come on,
y'all. Let's
strategize, man. We got people in power.
Let's do it the right way. But let me
not get too deep into that, man. They might try to
fuck around, kill my ass.
I think you'll be all right.
So, generally
speaking, though, do you look back
at your days? Like, give
me an idea how deep in
in the in the in the swiping game you got at a certain point like how much of that is stuff like
do you feel like you exaggerate for your music or do you have to downplay it for your music
actually i down play it i down but i i gotta get at no comment though man i just you feel me
because like gosh you already had this i already made the whole situation about
sun on this you know what i'm saying we already said a wrong name and now that's going to
pop up and build, but we're going to, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that way.
How do you feel?
It's all under the radar, man.
Oh, okay. Because there's a lot of people now, it's like you could be a famous scammer.
You know, you could be out here, like, rapping and talking about scamming and shit.
It's a whole new lane.
Fuck that.
Fuck that.
It all happens to listen, I'm good.
No, I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm chilling.
Listen, I'm good.
I'm straight.
Adam, listen, this is a dangerous world, man.
Y'all learned how to live in it.
They said, they said, yeah,
I learned how to live with a demon in your house
and I letting know you did.
Right.
I mean, with the NYPD too,
I mean, they spare no expense, you know?
They're serious.
They're real serious.
You know about the D's, right?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I, I, I, I,
you got me right now.
You know, no, you got me.
Nah, you know, that's crazy.
How you do you do.
Nah, that's crazy how you react.
This is crazy.
Like, everybody, everybody,
everybody, I'm back, I'm back, my shit.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, man, everybody know, like, if you go to New York, listen,
I don't care if you went there with your grandmonds,
she got stopped by the D's.
Definitely.
No, when I, like, the things I've seen in New York
that I never seen anywhere else is when you'll see a UPS truck,
and then all of a sudden you realize the UPS truck is a detective,
or a job.
A junkie-ass car, like a car that looks like some 1996-ass car.
And then you realize, like, that's a fucking undercover.
Like, that will really make you feel like you are never going to be able to do nothing in public.
I'm going to hit you with a good one right now.
Hit you with a good one right now, right?
Watch this, right?
So the post office, regular post office shit for a lot.
You know the ones that walk the cars?
Right, yeah.
The ones that walk the car, you deliver the mouth.
going to walk through the block, right?
I guess some,
I guess one of some,
some dude had a woman
on the block,
you know,
the type of shit
went on the block.
Crazy woman with him.
Pull up on the block.
Son must have been walking out
the building.
When he walks out the building,
the dude backs out his handcuffs,
restraints him,
and puts them in cups.
Yo,
and I tell you that,
like, you know,
like all the police pop out of nowhere,
parked cars.
I'm talking about ice cream trucks.
Everybody that was on the block at that moment was the undercover police.
And when I tell y'all, you wouldn't even know who's who, nothing.
You don't know what's going on.
It's people looking like me.
Like, I swear to be a detective just like me like this.
If I got a gun on you and a badge.
That's what's that, what's that called?
21 Jump Street shit.
Right.
That's why I always, when I'm in talking to people from L.A. and stuff,
and they talk about the cops being crazy.
I'm like, yeah, the cops are crazy, but in a different way than in New York.
man.
They got detectives like in Illinois, how like the D's how we got them, like the narcotics,
the gun force, but like they dress regular as fuck.
Like Nike, they sack their pants.
I think, I mean, I think they do.
They do missions like that, but I think there's just a level of that shit in New York
that is like totally different.
I feel like there's more people who want to commit crimes in New York to be totally
honest.
Like it's so many people trying to pull something over on the world.
All day.
All day.
You got to live like this in New York.
Yo, I swear, all day, it's different.
It's different.
Yeah, Adam, man, you definitely, you feel
me?
We definitely vibe with my nigga.
It's definitely good to even wake up with you, man.
Let me ask you something.
How does it feel to not be able to wake up
and walk to the bodega?
That's kind of white, though.
I'm not going to hold you, but it's a good thing
because every day of me walking to that bodega
was like risk in my life and other things.
I was good in my hood, but, like, you know, shit.
Like, you know, you're not.
nobody to tell you when it's over.
You ain't gone.
Dumbodega trips, trust me.
That's scary.
And it's like, what's you going to do?
You're going to strap up, take seven years,
or you're going to lose your life?
Yeah, it's crazy.
You get caught lacking or risk getting years.
I don't even like, like, I don't even, like,
process to that shit no more.
Yeah, that's a fact.
So, let me ask you this.
A lot of talk.
on the internet about whether certain snitching ass rappers are actually making an impact or not.
How do you feel like the reaction is from the city?
Do you feel like the city is embracing it in any way?
Or do you think that that's kind of just hyped up this whole idea?
And it's actually just a bunch of bullshit because that's kind of the camp I'm in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You said it.
So the crazy part about it is that when people ask some type of questions right there,
it's like they already know that answer.
You tell me
But I like the fact
That I'm gonna give you
My point of view
If it was all good
When it was
When it was all good
It would have been all good
So when it was good
And then it's not good
And then now it's notrocious
That's just that's just
That's just ugly bro
It's ugly because like
I ain't see no level up
But everything being bought
Like I said in my shit
Like I ain't paying for clout
It's real fame.
I ain't pay for club.
Like, you feel me?
Like, this is real shit.
Like, they got enough, they got enough money to pay for this shit, bro.
And, like, he exposed himself when he tried to expose billboard.
Mm.
Yeah, pass that.
It's past that.
I feel it.
You feel it's like more, it's more bought.
The shit is bought now.
Shit is bought now.
Because it's like, you can tell the difference, man.
It's, it's like, it's like a fucking 90% hate.
And then it's the rest.
to the people is the people that, you know, that it's not actually outside and, you know,
I feel it.
Yeah, I feel like as the time goes by, they're going to see more and more that, uh...
It's going to fall apart.
It's actually happening, too, like, and then the people that gave up that $10 million are going to be like...
You know what I'm saying?
I feel it.
Swipy.
Swipey, man.
So what are you working on in terms of videos, projects?
Like, do you feel like your next move needs to be like an official-ass album?
Are you trying to do the EP thing?
You still focus on dropping videos?
What's the plan?
Yeah, I'm going to do the EP's and then we don't go into albums and stuff like that.
First singles, E.P.
albums, you know what I'm saying?
We're going to do it.
French friends told me this shit, you know what?
So we're going to go crazy, but I got some, I got an EP coming out.
Does he even rap?
Because academics make it that.
So we're going to go and we're going to take it with that.
He said he ain't more a rap dude.
Shit.
He said, if he felt like that,
a lot of other people felt like that.
It's the shit.
Let's do it.
If you're crazy.
My name is really cool.
Shout out to my dog.
That's my neighbor.
I got a roly for him.
You got a roly for him?
A roly for him.
Man, if he gets a roly,
I need a roly.
But to be honest, I don't wear a jewelry.
Don't need worry.
Listen, Adam.
You find out
to the next enemy.
That's how you find out.
He ain't even know this.
He's going to find out through it.
He's going to find out.
with the roly all right.
You gotta watch this
the fire now.
You know what I mean?
Is that another thing
that French taught you?
If you fuck with somebody,
you just give him a roly?
I feel like,
I feel like everyone who helped me
on the level up weight
deserves something back.
Like it's just, like, that's just,
you know, it's like,
it's not favor for a favor
because it's not like,
because, you know,
sometimes people do favor for each other
and they don't got to fuck with each other.
It's not fair for a favor.
It's like, literally like,
Thank you for help me achieve my next goal.
Definitely.
You're my dog probably.
Damn, you look at the road, you're going to be like, I know what time it is, my nigga.
Damn, you got like 18 other bracelets on that fucking arm too.
Oh yeah, it's fine.
And everybody ran.
Fuck.
I'm just starting, man.
I'm just starting.
Hey, it's Miami.
It's Miami.
You got to live large.
Yeah, we just came off the yacht, so I had to be on the yacht line.
You feel me?
How's it feels?
being on the yacht though you couldn't have imagined being on a yacht until what like maybe six months ago
six days ago man shit i like you though that's hard i said i ain't been on a yacht yet so you beat me to
that or oh nah come on cut it out oh now we come in the scoop you bro we come to scoop you down
in the yacht meet me at the pier you think it just be holding money he don't be doing nothing
Let me drive the boat.
It's wrong with him.
I told him, yo, bro.
I tell him, yo, bro.
Come on, we got to go on boats.
We got to do crazy shit.
Friends likes to think a lot.
He likes to think a lot.
Right.
So he'll be doing too much shit.
I'm still, too, in the trenches.
I'm in the trenches, bro.
I got to start living that rich life, you know?
Nah, Adam, we got to come fuck with us.
Making a movie every time.
How about we make a no jump up?
Like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a,
How do you say that?
Like when you bring a camera that like, no jump a podcast?
Nah, but like with us.
With a that, no jump or the everyday, Josh, you do.
But like, nah, not with us.
Like, he's moving around.
No jump of everyone.
Let's go.
You're moving around.
You're doing no jump on a private jet.
You might do it in a project building.
It's ridiculous.
That's how we're going to get the real scoop.
That's how it's going to go wicked.
You heard because you're going to be in the trenches for real.
You go, what?
Oh, shit.
I like that.
So do you consider yourself to be a Coke boy?
Or is that a thing of the past?
For life, my nigga.
Oh, okay, okay.
New Wave border.
That's the name.
RIP chinks.
Facts,
Facts, long-lived chinks.
Free Max.
That's a fact.
Ooh.
Hey, when Max gets home, that's gonna be crazy.
Free Max.
That was a great era in New York City right there.
He's soon be home, though
He is, he's coming home soon, yeah
We talked to him on the phone a couple months ago, yeah
Yeah, he about to be home
I ain't gonna lie, son
Like, you know what's crazy,
you know how some people be like,
damn, well, he's gonna sound like now
because you know things actually,
you know, you know how, like shit grows,
like, you know what I'm saying?
Definitely.
He just some way somehow
know how to have sanity,
like, he got some whole other shit.
Like, his shit is way to be,
like, this thing is different.
I ain't gonna lie to you. Yeah, he's different.
Shout out, man.
Congrats.
Congrats on your fake, too, bro.
Oh, I appreciate that. Swipe you paying attention.
That means a lot.
Yo, one, one, for real, for a world, bro.
Congratulations on that baby, baby.
I appreciate that, man.
I know you, I know you, I know you seem like a great guy,
my man.
I'm planning on it, bro.
I'm about to be the dad of the century.
You a dad yet?
Yeah, man.
Oh, okay, nice, nice.
and the girl, bro.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
I'm gonna be hitting you up
for some parenting tips.
What happened?
I'm gonna be hitting you
for some parenting tips.
Oh, yeah, I got you.
I got you.
I got you.
I'm a great dad, too.
Great.
That's, I'm like number one first dad.
I don't play with that.
You know, I got you,
I got you.
And it gets hard throughout the night.
You know what I'm saying?
But you hit me up.
I got you.
Bye.
Hey, Swipey.
I appreciate your time, man.
let them know what they need to look out for.
Yo, Freka, we got, we got, we got all types of, we got all types of this, but I'm going to let
you all right now. Co-Boy 5 is coming out. Fricka and Rich Porter would be there on that.
That's a fact.
Featured, feature in French Montana.
We got, that's a fact remix, and we got my EP coming up.
Does he even rap?
Bow.
And I swear, when I tell you all this right now, we're going to go diamond.
Diamond.
Let's go.
Let's make them videos, Adam.
Let's get it.
I'm ready, bro.
I'm spinning.
I'm spinning all day.
You ain't winning.
If you ain't spinning, you ain't winning, my name.
There it is.
Swipey, I appreciate you, man.
From the heart, love, my, gee.
For real, for real.
Much love.
Take care, G.
Bye, move.
Wow.
