No Jumper - The Murda Beatz Interview

Episode Date: August 22, 2019

Grammy-Award nominated, multi-platinum producer and artist Murda Beatz, has elevated his game to become one of the most sought-after producers in the music industry. He has production credits on the #1 song in the world, Drake’s “Nice For What,” as well as the triple platinum Migos single “Motorsport” featuring Nicki Minaj and Cardi B—plus another half dozen platinum and multi-platinum singles by artists ranging from 2 Chainz to Travis Scott to French Montana. ---- FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://spoti.fi/2vi9lsD CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper and iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 and follow us on Social Media: http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm follow Adam22 as well: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and follow adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. And today I'm here with the coolest producer in the world or at least one of murder beats in the building. Definitely one of. One of. Who's the coolest producer in the world? I don't know. Probably me.

Probably me. I hear that. Yo, you know what I was thinking about it earlier? I think that there's a reason why the world is so fascinated by murder beats. Because the average rap kid, think about it. It lives in the middle of nowhere. fascinated by the game but feels like there's no

possible way for them to get in the game 100% they look at murder beats and they're like he's not so different from me but he's lit and everybody fucks with him all these lit rappers are out here just fucking with him like he's their day one no that's some real shit that's 100% because

like where I'm from I'm from Niagara Falls I grew up in a town 40% 30,000 people when I go home now and I always see people on Instagram hit me up and shit it's like kids that were in my situation eight years ago that are now making beats trying to rap, do all this shit.

Before that, there was no one trying to make beats, like, and music, that type of music and stuff, you know? So I definitely, like, inspired a lot of people to, like, take this journey and path of a music career, you know? Talk to me about you as a young man, though, before

you even really got into the music and stuff. What were you like in, like, elementary school, shit like that? I was like, I just felt like I was different from everyone. Like, I'm left to, handed I couldn't skate so like I couldn't play hockey like everyone else in Canada I'm left handed I couldn't I couldn't fucking cut paper with right hand like with scissors and like when I was in grade three and shit that's awesome and I told my mom I was like I feel like I'm just different from everyone like I don't want to I just feel like I'm different I always said that to my mom

and then even like I just didn't I never wanted to get a job never wanted to work for nobody so I was like selling like weed and shit in high school I didn't want to somebody talk about myself because that's like exact same shit for nobody I didn't want to do none of that shit You know what I'm saying? So I don't know. No, I think that that's really important because you remember that Kanye song? Everything I'm not made me everything I am. Yeah. You know, it's like I feel like the reason why I am where I am is partially because I fucking

sucked at sports because I wasn't, you know, knew I wasn't going to be a rapper, knew I wasn't going to be able to do that. And like, when you're not good at certain things, it could force you to sort of rely on different areas of personality, which is really interesting. No, 100%. So I was like, I don't know, I started playing drums and I was like four or five years. old going to my uncle's house. Oh, wow.

And I was always just playing drums and stuff. My dad, RP, my pops. He always wanted me to play guitar. But I'm left-handed, so it's like, I can't just pick up your guitar, start playing guitar. I play it like upside down, like Jimmy Hendricks, some shit. Right. You know what I was like?

I was like playing drums, beating on drums. It was fun, you know? Started like putting on headphones, listen to music, just taught myself how to play along the songs and shit, you know? And then just like my one day, my boy from school, from school, show me. me fruity loops. I was like, it's just kind of fire. I was like making beats. They were a complete garbage. Hack that shit, put that shit on my computer. We were already interested in my parents.

I put it on my parents desktop. I was in grade like 11, I think. Or like summer grade 11 going into grade 12, something like that. I was like 16 or 17. I started making beats. So I cracked that shit on my parents desktop computer. You know, old ass computers. Started banging shit out like that. And then I was like, man, fuck it. I bought a laptop. and then I traded my drum set for a K-NPK-49 keyboard at guitar center, even swapped it. It was like, fucking... Holy shit. And then just started making beats all the time.

Like, I knew, like, the first beat I made, I knew this is what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. Wow, really? It's crazy. And they were trash, too. And I was, like, so cocky because, like, I'm, like, you got to think of it. And my head is, like, I found my career. And I'm in high school. Everyone's going to guidance.

Like, yo, like, you need to do this to what your life. You need to do that. I was going to go to school for business because I want to make money. I want to make money. Did that exit your brain? as soon as you found out of Mamedan beats? Wow. So, yeah.

That's crazy. So what was the first hip hop that you heard that go? You were excited in the first place? Probably hearing like something like 50 cent or like some M&M at like my uncle's house. And then just like being out home like walking like my mom had on like MTV or like music videos and stuff. Just seeing just like hated or love it when I saw that music video, I was like, damn. shit's crazy this is hard like yeah it's bizarre like and then just like seeing like obviously like seeing like there's everything like cash money just seeing all that shit i remember seeing that shit too

pop bottles all those videos and shit just like it was cool when you were starting to make beats though was there any producer that you had already noticed that you were like i want to be like that dude so like i started really liking trap music i really wanted to make trap music i'm like yo these beats are fire So, like, at the time, like, the whole BSM, Brick Squad Monopoly wave was at, like, it's, like, super high, right? So, like, Waka, Flaka, Slim Duncan, all the... Frenchy? RIP, Slim Duncan, you know what I'm saying? He was, like, my favorite rapper.

I'm like, damn, I got to make beats for these guys. So I started making beats, and that's, like, and, like, that was, like, Lex Lugar and, like, Southside and them. But, like, it was mainly, like, Lex Lugar. I was like, yo, it's just hard. I was, like, watching his videos, how he's making beats and stuff. I want to make tripeas, so that's what I did. So there were YouTube. videos that they had out that sort of gave you an idea what to do already at that point?

Yeah, just like watching videos. Like, he's like, he's like, Lex Lugar, how to roll a blunt. Lex Lugar, how to make a beat. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just watching all those videos. Like, okay. It's dope. That's sick.

Like trap beats. So then. It's crazy to think that you might have been somebody that just straight up wouldn't have had the opportunity to even learn this shit because you just straight up wouldn't have even known anyone who even would have had that knowledge if you had been born 10 years earlier because it wouldn't have just been like. like you wouldn't have had access to enough information. And even you then, you still had to like figure out how to put it together.

It wasn't just completely laid out there. Like now there's even more resources available. So if a kid wants to start making bees, it's even easy to jump in, right? If it was 10 years earlier, I probably would have had to like get access to it, find someone who knew, who had access to a studio to go to the studio to get a job at a studio to start to learn the hardware. Like it would have just been like, I don't know. Would have been crazy. I might have kept you away from it. although you might have still figured out that you wanted to get involved.

Yeah, I don't know. I would have figured it out. That's crazy to think about. I think this is everything. Everyone's life is you're destined to be who you are. So I would have figured it out either way. You could have been, like nowadays it feels like it would be almost more likely for you to just go and become like a Fortnite kid. If you were just some kid that was spending time looking into shit on the internet.

I would have definitely been a professional and major league gaming gamer or some shit. And sold weeds though. And what's crazy is that in this? I love video games, man. Video games, and that's the thing, though. Making beats is like a video game. It's like, you know what I'm saying? If I'm good at video games and I know how to play,

I know how to play video games, and I know music, and I start making beats, and then I know music already, and then making a beat is like a fucking video game. That's how it feels to you? I don't know. Like, it's software, it's a program. You know what I'm saying? But it doesn't feel like a video game because there's no specific objective,

but the objective is just to get what you're building from nothing to something really dope. The objective is to like draw patterns. Yeah. And shapes and then it becomes a hit. Right. If you look at the piano roll, like you just draw shit. Sometimes like it looks like it's like music is like patterns.

Like everything like you click in your drums. Everything is patterns. Music is one, two, three, four, one four is this, that. You know what I'm saying? It's like a science. Yeah. I'm like a scientist. You are.

You're like a chemist. You're more like a neighborhood like meth head type chemist, you know? I'm not a meth head, but a meth like a medicine. You know. Deemate Dealer. You're like the dude in Breaking Bad posted up in the RV in the middle of the desert just cooking some shit up. He's cooking a beast man.

He's young murder. He might have been. Actually, Rich, the kid already took that concept for a video. That was a hard concept too. We can't steal it again. Shout Rich. So how'd you start building connects? Like obviously making the music itself is one part of the problem.

But then the other part of the problem is the fact that nobody knows you and that you have to get your shit into people's hands. How'd you start attacking that problem? So first, I started with the YouTube show. shit started doing tight beats. Chief Keep was hot at the time. I put out Chief Keith type beats. So my shit pops up before everyone else's shit.

And you know what I'm saying? Shit like that at first. And then that's how I started building like murder beats is a name in like the producer community and stuff. So that's how I built like my YouTube, my Twitter, my Instagram, my all that shit, I guess. And then from there, like around that time was like when the drill music was popping. So I was like, yo, like I got to get into this. drill wave i got to go to chicago so i went on i went on d gains youtube page remember d gains the guy who

shot all those videos that's crazy i went on d gains youtube page and found this guy named kill bill i'm like yo he's he was dope i thought he was a dope rapper from chicago so i hit him up and then built a relationship with him over a couple months and then i flew out to chicago to meet him and get in the studio with him and shit how was that these guys had me in the hood i was like i should not be here but i was like i was like 17 like i didn't care like I really wanted this shit and like I was doing anything like my my mom was like what are you doing like it was like I really had to do this shit like I really put everything into it like I wouldn't tell a young kid nowadays like yo go to Chicago and the while 100s and all this shit I would not tell

you to do that because it's like looking back it's like damn I was fucking reckless like you know that's crazy it's amazing that it actually worked out did you start building connections from there or like like from there then I met like most of the GBE guys in person and stuff and then I started working with Chief Keefe and stuff like that and then like my tool was always like then if I start working with Chief Keefe I'm hitting everyone on Twitter saying I'm Chief Keefe's producer because he's hot right now right you know what I'm saying so then boom then I get then I that's how I got like the Migos attention and then like I hit up skip and I was like on on Twitter I'll go on Twitter I'll go on Twitter and I would hit up like if I want to get to

the Migos I'll type in WIRN and then I'd find like their boy with WIREN and his name hit him up trying to get to the Migos and that was Skip go look at who they're following And that was Skip. And then I hit up him. And I'm like, yo, Offset was locked up at the time. I was like, yo, just I'll give you beats to use for yourself if you just play my shit for Cuevo and takeoff. Right. And he's like, well, I'm not even, like, he wasn't even rapping at the time.

He was just always around them. So he played my beats for them and they fucked with it. Wow. That's crazy. You know, that's a really interesting part of the conversation that we kind of see happening, not just in production, but in general, is like, should you work for free to get yourself into the position to be able to someday be able to ask for a check? I'd rather at the beginning you have to work for free

and you have to know you're worth too like I knew what I wanted to be so I didn't settle for less and make a sound click and put on my beats for 99 cents a beat because that's just like

stunting your growth and you see people there's like big artists out here that get hot that pop up off a beat that the label ended up buying for $100 for the master and then that producer

is frustrated and doesn't know how to make money right So it's like you got to really know your worth and you got to sacrifice. People don't know how to sacrifice nowadays. Everyone just wants everything. And it's crazy because it's like if you were to go and work for some big corporation and they were going to be like, yo, we're not going to pay you for the first couple years.

But then eventually you'll be able to get paid. It would sound so fucked up. And the rap game, the truth is, is like if you really want to get in there and you don't have any connections and shit, it's like you're just going to have to basically be around, be the dude who's available, who's down to put in the work. and you're going to have to be able to be willing to do it for next to nothing for a long-ass time. Man, me and the Migos dropped Emmett Smith in 2016.

And I remember that was the first video ever that I had on like MTV and like BET and shit. And everyone thought I was rich and I was broke as shit. Really? You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. When it came, did it take you a while to figure out how to structure your agreements with artists and stuff?

Or did it take a while for you to feel like you even had the leverage to ask? I didn't even know how. Like, you know, I didn't even know. Because like I was like, I was selling beats to kids on PayPal. I was selling beats to kids on Western Union. Like I was selling, I started selling so much beats off YouTube on Western Union that they flagged my shit for fraud and they started holding up my money and shit. Because like I didn't, I never wanted to send snippets either because I knew people could just

loop up a snippet and wrap on the beat. So I'll be like, yo, you have to send half the money or the whole money up front. And then I'll send you a couple of beats to pick from. Right. So it's like worth my time. That's really interesting. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy because nowadays, and I don't know if you ever went to such extent,

but it's like there's so many weird, shady ways that young producers will try to get their shit in front of you. Like, for instance. Instagram comments. Having bots. That's just crazy. That's me. It's never me.

It's today it was me. That's just crazy. I don't know, man. But, hey, like, you got to look, too. Like, that shit can work, too. Because, like, Rick Ross found Meek Mill off Twitter. Really? But, I mean, meek Mill was probably, like, pretty decently well-known at that point.

Yeah, and he wasn't spamming them. The kids who have the bots. But the spamming shit's too much, man. y'all gotta stop this shit real shit's like oh my god like i just try to think that like people really think that like if you spam somebody that shit it but hey that shit could work i can't like i can't knock nobody's hustle i saw i can't i forget what kid but i saw like complex made a whole write-up on a kid who spammed people's comments right and the producer got a little write-up was the beats by safe kid yeah kid who kept beefing with perp and shit i think so oh god he's gonna clip

but let's put on his Instagram. He tried to call burp out of a self-by-south last year too. Yeah. Holy shit, that's so funny. Now, you know what's the worst thing ever is when I'm like, I'll see a video that I'm tagged in. There'll be some girl with a huge fat ass.

I'll be like, huh, click on it. I'm just watching the ass shake. All of a sudden, I realized 30 seconds gone by and I'm listening to this garbage-ass song. And I realize that's what it's just an artist promoting his shit. Instagram's the devil. Damn. But I mean, but it's a weird decision to be made

right there because on one hand yes that might for some people I guess be the only way that they're going to be able to make any kind of connections today but at the same time it's totally like dirty in your name for people to remember you that way right you're always you're always gonna be that kid who just was just in the comments it's going crazy were you ever nervous being around people like keef and megos and shit at first like you know the way that you describe it like it's so casual and it was so easy for you to just meet them and start working with them all the time the average kid listen to this is like what the fuck i want to be able to do that yeah it definitely wasn't easy you know and i i wasn't nervous i was shy like i was like i was like 18 17

like i was like a shy kid stills and like in like uncomfortable environments where like i don't know anybody i'm like i'm i'm from niagara i'm like now the only white kid you know i understand half the shit they're saying i do a whole trip in Atlanta go back like damn i just like think in my head like damn i was like the only white kid they got all kinds of crazy slang You're just trying to figure out what the fuck they're talking about. It's just like, it's just like, it's just like throwing you in the deep end. Like, you know, this is what you want to do. Go get it.

Yeah. And a lot of people, I feel like nowadays, they're not willing to do what other people aren't doing. Right. They want to sit there in the comments and spam like everyone else. But it's like, how are you going to be the lucky person or how are you going to be prepared for the opportunities to be able to actually make it, you know? Did you have times where you were doubting yourself or doubting the plan where you were like, early on where you were like man i don't know if i'm gonna be able to make this shit work not really honestly like i like really wanted to do this and was really motivated and

i had everyone talking shit at me at school everyone was making fun of me really teachers made fun of me principal told me there's only one dr dr dr dr day not to do this as a career path that shit i was so mad like i was like damn this is crazy that is so offensive but when all odds are against you you know what i'm saying that's like when it's going to pay off the month most right when do you feel like when you feel like it started to come together like when do you sort of turn a corner with it um after like I'd say like after pipe like pipe it up pipe it up is like that's like when I like because like you know what I'm saying I was like I started like staying with amigos from time to time going on the road with them right and I was always like

if I'll go to a show with them like I was so heavy like I was so heavy like into like building my brand like when I'll go to a show with them after the show I'll go to the I would go to the tag, go to the tag on Instagram and I would like everyone's video of like seeing a bit of me on stage so they would follow me after the show. And like every time I'd drop a song on a mixtape, I would like look up that song and retweeting like everyone's shit so they'd follow me. So I was always like constantly like building my brand. Yeah, early on I used to do all that shit. I used to respond to every Facebook message. All that I had to do. You know what I'm saying? You got to every fan counts. And it still does. Yeah. It's just at a certain point it's become so big that

it's like you can't respond to every DM. I don't want to respond to. I don't want to respond to one person because then everyone feels entitled. Everybody else in their hometown. Everyone would be like, wow, he talked to him. Why didn't he talk to me? Right. And they started hating and shit. That's crazy. When you're on those tours and stuff, even just being able to go on tour,

even just like them being down to put you out there in their perspective, because there's a million motherfuckers who've done beats for Migos, but Migos don't like really acknowledge them besides like paying them for the beat or whatever. It's like, how did you sort of like even get into the position? Because I feel like that's the dream of every

producers to create like a real personal brand where they're actually like able like people know their name people know what they look like people know what their whole vibe is and who they are as a person and you kind of you got that like how did you how did you get like somebody like megos who don't fuck with people very rarely they just are very closed off yeah at the beginning like they were they only had like a couple producers they were fucking where they had like zatovin phenomidon stack boy mac boy and me and everyone was from Atlanta and i kind of got like I just feel like I like when we I can I connected with them before the wave so it's like when they started blowing up and shit I'm like damn like when they I remember when

they start blown up I'm like yo these guys might just like go Hollywood on me I don't like you know what I get all that Hollywood shit you don't know like until like you know what I'm saying I'm a young kid from Canada I don't fucking know what the fuck's gonna happen these guys blew up like fuck you know what I'm saying but they were they always kept in contact and and they remember me I was like damn like that's some real shit that's loyalty you know what I'm saying and then when I got in front of of them and then we started actually building that relationship. It just went a long way and, you know what I'm saying?

Guys like REL and guys like Quavel and people like that, they always looked out for me, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Coach and Pee, everybody. I feel like a lot of it straight up has to do with just your personality, period, and not just for you, but for anybody in the sense that you have to be somebody that people are going to want to be around. You've got to know how not to say that one thing that's going to make you look like an

entitled dickhead that, you know, like, there's probably a million times that you could It's just sort of been a salty fuck about something and like pissed them off and like ruin the relationship. You know, it's like so much of it is just your personality straight up. No, for real. And like just like a lot of the time I'm like a sponge on the wall too. You know what I'm saying? I won't speak unless spoken to. So I'm just playing my role, you know?

Has it been weird getting famous? I don't think I'm famous. You're pretty damn famous. You go to them all. People are talking to you. I don't know. I didn't like when I started making beats and doing this shit, I never really thought about this shit. And now it's kind of just like it is what it is, you know, like you reap what you sew.

Like, you know what I'm saying? You want to do this. Now you're doing this. You're like, fuck. And whatever comes with it, it's like, you know what I'm saying? That's what it is. Yeah. I mean, you don't really know what you're getting into in the sense that you don't really know what it's going to be like.

I just want to make music for a living. That's the only thing I was thinking of is like being known for the music I make and inspiring people's lives and doing that, you know, and helping my family and being something. not just being the kid that goes to high school and then now you're just sitting where you're from working at nine to five i didn't want to do that yeah what are most people that you grew up with doing working a nine to five in the same town yeah at best but you know you drunk off their ass in the park everyone you could hey you could be happy in any situation you know what I'm saying like they're probably more happy than we are do you think never know that ever crossed your mind that you might have been happier if you lived a normal life maybe i don't know i love the life i live so you wouldn't know you wouldn't know

shit about the life that you're living you know it's like the average person doesn't have any clue what it's like to even be in hollywood never mind to know the right shit to do in hollywood never mind to like what it's like to go on tour it's just like when you do shit like this it's like it's hard to tell what's real and fake everything's blurred lines when you get into a situation of when people want to fuck with you so it's like you don't know it's real and was fake and sometimes that could be tricky get you into problems get into situations and it could fuck up your happiness because you don't know who's being real who's being fake you're at least at least when you work a nine to five or some shit or like i'm not even going to say that just like

when you like when you're living a life with a family and you grow up and you know what i'm saying like how you do that style of living it's like you know who's real who's fake and shit you know or like you surround yourself with the right people you think you ever i feel like i surrounded myself with the right people though yeah i mean your team does seem pretty good to be real with me or great people yeah let me ask you this do you ever did you ever get too open and start letting random ass weird cloud munchin type people get too close to you and then you had to realize at a certain point that this wasn't that you had to be more closed off not really honestly that that happens a lot though honestly probably in l.a hell yeah that's been definitely happy me someone at that party next day

there at your house and you're just like what the fuck is this person doing around me you know what I they don't want to leave but I don't know I feel like I'm good at reading people I'm good at reading vibes and shit like if I trust my gut so if I feel something's off somewhere it's like it's time to go or like if I like I feel like I can see through people so it's like the fuck's like definitely you know what I'm saying I don't know you're a good guy man I appreciate that we got good intentions at least you know yeah you know yeah I appreciate that um you ever talk to anybody from your hometown you said you're close with anybody from back home oh yeah I talked to like some of my boys only a couple yeah is it kind of is it kind of

odd they're kind of shocked by what you've managed to do like the few I talked to like believed in it so it's like you I just did actually did it. That's tight. And you know, people don't, like, that, like, my one boy would tell, oh, like, people, like, don't believe I know you and shit. Like, it's crazy. Like, people stop my mom in the grocery store and tell my mom, like, they make beats now and shit. Oh, my God. Mom's like, you know. I remember my dad gave me a mixtape one time from this, like, person at work, their son had a, like, he gave me his tape. He mailed it to me. Like, my dad thought I was going to give a shit. I'm looking at this. It's like the worst graphic

design. It's, like, so much worse than anything I've ever seen online. I put it in. It was so much worse than anything I've ever heard sent in by a fan or whatever. I was just like, damn. People who don't know how you use the internet really don't know what the fuck's going on. Sometimes people give me like USBs of beats and I delete them and use them. That's the realest thing anyone's ever said on this podcast. I feel like most people don't want to admit to that shit.

Sometimes I listen to them. You ever find anything good that way? I used to be that kid. I used to fucking get the USB put 10 beats on it for little info contacts. Never fucking worked. Real shit. That shit never worked. Yeah.

No, like it could work. That's what I'm saying. Like, anything's possible. So like if I'm, if I'm giving someone advice and I say what I did and what didn't work for me, I'm not saying don't do that because it could work for you.

You know what I'm saying? That just did not work for me. Yeah. I don't know. Did not give that shit to fucking Richelme, Kwong, Wiss Khalif. That's what they really want you to do with them.

They probably lose the shit by the end of the night. put in your pocket you go party and shit a bitch might even just fucking steal it you never know she might steal she might think she had the lick you she just stole this guy's beat that was in the crowd imagine she stole the USB from you and she thought she had a bunch of your unreleased beats yeah some random guy i've i've had like i've had like unreleased music on sticks like when i go to the club play some shit in trona i've like lost them in ubers you never had a problem with it showing up online though no i've had like music leak online and then everyone thinks i leaked it why I think it's you.

Because I used to leak the Migos music. Did you really? On purpose? Yeah. What a minute. Why would you do that? Like back in the day, like,

I would like take songs off their computer because they would never give me shit. So I'd like take songs off their computer like when no one was around or like when they were sleeping or whatever. I'd like take the songs off the computer so I could listen to them when I go home. Because if I go back to Canada, I don't know like when I'm coming back to Lenn or you know what I'm saying? Right.

And then I just end up that like whenever like I was always trying to build my consistency. so if they weren't going to use the song I would just drop it on my SoundCloud and the blogs would pick it up or like I'd premiere it with XXL or premiere it with Haunted Hip Hop or something. Was this before the era in which they would have got pissed off about that

because I feel like if you do that now they'd be furious. Yeah now it's the streaming changed everything. It's like before it's like it's like that was dope. It was like releasing a song like it was that was helping my consistency and building my brand. I was building my own brand leaking music. Really. I'm sorry.

But you never had to deal with, like, ramifications from that. Like, no, because it was always, like, I would always know, like, if it was a song, like, they were using or something, I would, you know what I'm saying? But if it was just, like, some shit I would want to listen to, and then, like, six months go by and, like, these guys make 30, like, so many songs. Like, I have, like, thousand, like, a thousand songs with the MECOS, you know? So it's just like, I'm just, drop some shit, fuck it. How do you decide who you want to work with these days?

It feels like you have a hell of options. You've done a lot of, like, joint projects where you're, like, Bill, as one of the performers. just like the rapper if i become a fan of your music or like if i feel like you're ahead of the wave you know what i'm saying like that was like the thing with amigos like when i first heard their music i was like yo this is different like like it was cool i didn't i didn't 100% get it at first but i was like this is really like unique and different and i know this is going to be the next wave so then i started i started playing it all the time like it's just fire like you know that's what's crazy though is that people assume that just because an artist is

huge right now and megos is like the biggest group in hip hop right now they assume they they forget that you were fucking with them early on like before they were really you know i see people all the time who are like you know adam's a cop muncher he just started fucking with x and pump because they're hot or whatever i'm like i was fucking with them before they were hot yeah you know it's like people forget once somebody blows up people act like they always were that big weird so who do you choose oh so you're saying like you prefer to you just do a lot of like reaching out via dm shit like that yeah or But like, or I like to, I really like to wait like for shit to happen organically too.

Like even if someone was like, yo, you got to work with this person sometimes. I'll be like, I was like, I know what happened organically, you know? And then it happens organically. How do you normally meet people though? Are you out and about? You go to the shows, go to the clothes, shit like that? Not as much right anymore. Kind of just like duck off and be low key and shit.

But yeah, definitely like when you go out and shit, you meet people. Right. You know? Or like even in the studio, you bump into people in the studio. Mm-hmm. Find out this guy's next door go say what up drop off pack of beats yeah that's what so a lot of people like reach out now though you know like I'll reach out to someone or they'll reach out to me or like through like mutual friends or something you know do you have like managers and shit or like trying to like pitch you artists or like I got my manager Corey yeah but he's he's helping you find artists and shit yeah all the time that's what so like after like the whole like the pipe it up stuff and that's like when I met Corey and then we went out to LA for the first time and that's like when like a lot of shit went off that's what's up You're trying to sign artists now as well? All that.

You got some dude Adam that I was just seeing his shit popping up saying that you signed him? Yeah, I got Adam. Adam Holiday. He's fire. Really? He's from the UK. He grew up in Philly. He's got a cool story.

Really? Okay. He's going to be a big star. Really? 100%. What kind of music is? Is he rapping or is he singing? He can do everything, but like singing, pop, R&B, soul.

That's crazy. Some cool shit. You don't feel limited to just rappers? Hell no. I was in the studio with Ozuna last night. Really? Is that hard for you to a totally different sound like that? Well, I can't speak.

Like, I'm from Canada. That's problem number one. That's a little, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But, no, it's cool, though. I like it. I like being outside the box, you know? Like, just grinding like that.

That whole, like, Latin-type sound that everybody kind of fucks with now. That's just going crazy. Is that hard for you to, like, get into that mindset of making those kind of beats? It's definitely like, like, anything I do outside of, like, trap me. music it's like I got like I meant to say all right I'm about to do this right going and do it so but we were doing like we were doing like rap shit and then like we started cooking up some like Latin shit too that's what so it was dope though yeah place of fire my girlfriend was really pissed last night watching the video that you put out with pump and check why she's like she's like they're stealing

people's prize possessions they're just like walking up to people and taking their babies and their stuff I'm like I wasn't thinking about it that way everything was bought we bought it but it's like why are you like buying a baby hey man look it this is this video was for fun it was not no fucking human trafficking shit i'd be seen all that people saying that shit it didn't occur to me like that baby was happy that baby was a happy baby i thought it was funny too and then my girlfriend started says that shit and i'm like god damn you just completely thought changed the way that

i'm thinking about this video yeah go go check out that video you know what i'm saying the shopping spree video yeah young murder featuring check west low pump it's a great video video of the year not about human trafficking most humorous rap video this year that was yeah it was it was it was fun yeah it was it was fun how that song coming together and how did you know that was the one i pulled up i pulled up at pumps house like a few months ago and we were just cooking up and that's one of the songs we made and i like we posted a little step in on instagram and like sheck like commented so i hit him up like you want to hop on the record he's like hell yeah so i sent him the beat he got on it that's official we put it out it was just like kind of

quick it's hard to get pumped to do anything too so that's impressive shut up pump man that's my brother though i love him he's a good kid that's fire um yo yeah because i remember the night i met you we were in the studio and that's that night that pump made one two three perp perp that's when i met you yeah i think that was crazy i think i've only been around you two times and that was the first time we were at dj cow's birthday party uh-huh that might have been the last time i saw nip really happy belated to nip yeah at that party but then i took perp to that part but then i took perp to that party and then we went to the studio right after and we made one two three right and we had like a whole little party vibe in the studio and shit yeah no it was a fucking party and that's when i was like

i was like yo i like your vibe because you were you were you were setting like it was like it was like it was like it was like it was like it's like it was like it's like it's like it's the life and shit i'm like Or me and Perp were a little too fucked up. I was hung over for days. I was fucked up too. Fuck it. That was bad. This is the life we chose, man. Rockstar lifestyle.

Babe, you've changed up your lifestyle? Yep. You got totally sober or just mostly? I'm like, I'm sober. I drink a little bit. Okay. Because I'm not going to lie to you during that time period, you were drunk as fuck. Like a lot. I still get drunk as fuck.

I get really drunk. I think I can out drink anybody. Based on what I was. seen I wouldn't be surprised. But like I'm not an alcoholic. Yeah. You know? You don't feel like you ever were?

No. Never. Never. I don't know. Like when I used to smoke weed and shit, like hell yeah. I smoked weed all the time. Do you feel like the weed was bad for you? No, it started making me like anxious all the time.

Started getting anxiety. And then I got like too high Coachella and just like took a break and then just like never got back into it. Because I would always like get a little anxiety for smoke of weed. So I was like, man, why do I keep smoke of weed? Right. You know? Were you getting this?

Were you too high, like, on stage, or was it after you had already done what you had to do? I wasn't on stage. I was on stage this Coachella that year. I was just like. Oh, you're just chilling. Having fun. So at least you were free to get too fucked up. Yeah.

Yeah. That's crazy. It was fun. Damn. How did that Perp project? Like, how did you become such a big part of that one in particular? So I found Perp's music on SoundCloud, and I was like, this kid's fire. Like, he was dropping records and shit.

I forget, like, exactly which ones. but I was like, damn, this is fire. And then ended up, the one day I was working in New York at Jungle City, and he was in the room next to me. So I went over and I said, what up to him? Gave him some beats. And then he said he was going to be there the next day. I pulled up on the next day.

He played him. They were fire. I love the songs. And then like six months later or something, we like reconnected. And then just decided like, yo, we should do an album. And we started locking in the studio making records. We made like one, two, three. We made like a couple more and shit.

And I go, we just bang on an album. That's what we did. Just having fun, just making music, you know? Yeah. That's like how music should be made, you know? Because I feel like a lot of music is like forced and a lot of shit. Do you ever feel like there are forces within the music industry that are kind of pulling you away from what you originally loved about it and sort of getting you more into that. Hell yeah.

Everything that's not music. I feel like every, I feel like most people in the music is like if you don't make it, it's going to pull you away from, try to pull you away from what you do. because everyone's trying to get a check and get a bag so they're going to try to pull you this way, do this, do that, do that. And the moment that you're doing shit that you don't want to do it becomes a job and I don't like that shit, you know?

Yeah. Like I do shit sometimes that like I wouldn't like love to do but I'll do it because like, or maybe it's like I don't like to do it and like someone like my manager will tell me it's good for me and then it ends up being good for me, you know? Yeah. It's crazy because like your whole success as a producer is really predicated on the whole entire concept

of you just like working constantly always being in the studio but then there's all these like pressures and different forces that are trying to get you to be in the club to be going and doing all these different things all the time too is like you ever feel like you got a little too far away from that sort of like nerd mentality or just having to be in the studio constantly yeah I feel like the last like six months I got away from a little bit but I'm definitely back in my bag because you got to understand like when you're coming up and in those beginning stages all you got to do is make music, focus on getting better and get your shit out there now. It's like when you like, I'm at a point where it's like there's more of a brand and like

I'm DJing and there's like you do press and you do this and that. Meetings and there's opportunities and you know what I'm saying? You got to do it's a different grind. It's a different hustle. And that then that's the kind of hustle when you like you get you get a bigger team. You hire more staff. You get more people like you got a label almost you're CEO. Like you know what I'm saying?

You got contracts. You got people signed to you that. your responsibility so it's more more responsibilities it's not just you trying to make it's like now everyone like you know what i'm saying everyone's eating and everyone's got to eat i'm gonna make sure everyone eats you know yeah does ever feel like pressure just having it like not just worry about yourself you got to worry about the team as well a lot of pressure but pressure makes diamonds there you go and i like diamonds bars you do huh you got a nice little jewelry collection yeah like it's cool you don't go too crazy but diamonds make pressure see diamonds make pressure because then when people see you got

diamonds and shit that causes pressure then now it's like oh shit he's on now you got to maintain i'm smoking pressure there you go there you got this is me fuck it you never gone too crazy with the with the jewelry thing i'm like done with jewelry you're done with it i keep saying that it's just you know it's a bad habit and it's definitely the worst habit and i was just around like i was around like the megos and these guys are buying the biggest chains since fucking and constantly changing it up Yeah, so it's just like, that's the first thing. When I'm, when I'm back in the day, when I started like going on the road with them, going to a couple shows, I'm like, man, I need to buy a chain.

Everyone has a chain. Everyone has a chain. I buy myself a little gold chain. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. I like it though. It's fun. When you're competing with them and future and thug and shit.

I'm not going to be competing with dudes like that who have like unlimited resources to just ball out. I like jewelry. You know what I'm saying? Like, I like, like how it's made. Like every watch, it's like it's handmade. Like someone built. those of the machinery and stuff like it's cool yeah definitely it's not like a Toyota it's definitely like a Rose Royce you got anything that you really blow your money on

jewelry that's the main thing you don't got like a car clothes cars a little bit not really yeah kind of you go too hard with the clothes well I don't go too hard on clothes but like you have to keep up with your wardrobe you know what I'm saying like just doing new shit doing this doing that being on stage you always have to update yeah Every, like, I know a lot of people update every day, every week. I do, like, every, like, a couple times a month, maybe, some shit. You just go shopping, keep it updated. Your Graham will get boring otherwise.

Not even. Just, like, just being out. Just being, I don't like wearing shit too much. Yeah. I'll definitely wear shit twice. If I like to fit, I'll just rock it for, like, a week, you know what I'm saying? And just not wear it. You know what I don't know.

Yeah. It's kind of always, like, a decision because it's like, dude, my accountant told me, he's like, I've honestly never seen a public figure. He spends less money on clothes than you. I'm like, man, honestly, that's a, That's a big honor that you just said that to me. Because I just always wear our own shirts or people give me shit. I want to wear my own shit.

I feel like when every time we get some fucking merch, everyone else gets it. I don't get it. Really? Every time. Wow. Every time. These guys always wearing the merch, give a merch away. I never have my own merch.

You got to get a lost prevention agent on your team. Real shit. It's going missing. People are reselling my shit in the back of my crib or some shit. That could really be having it. Shit. That's fucked up. Where you spend most shit time now?

L.A. Always L.A. That's what I was. I spent. Look at you guys don't understand how much of a blessing it is to be in an, like, be working in America and just being American because being Canadian, being somewhere else, like, you got to deal with a lot of shit. Like, you got to deal with getting a work visa. If you don't have one and they catch you, you're going to get banned from America until you get one. And then it's like you can only spend six months out of your year in America.

And I'm spending way more than that. So now I'm going to depart Canada. But is your whole like I have to depart Canada like pay an exit tax like it's crazy really It's fucked up that's insane I didn't know I would have thought your shit would be like taking care of just because you why I mean you done so well for yourself it's like why wouldn't I want to have you But that's like but me coming here is taking a job away from an American that's how they see it in theory and then and then it's like paying taxes in certain places so it's like oh there's poor American producers that can't get their beats off You poor guys Come side to death row You know what I'm saying

I'm just Murdering game shit You could definitely have a Shug Night vibe At some point in your career You think No You're just like running around I'm a nice guy

I'm a nice guy Yeah you are And I'm gonna make sure everyone around me's good You know what I'm saying What's your dating life like right now? I'm chilling Yeah Have you been in anything serious

At various points I've seen you link to some celebrities I'm gonna be honest with you Yeah You know I'm still I'm still kind of like Link to something low key Okay

You know Right. But low-key? I think so. High-key, low-key? I think so. It's like low-key. Is that weird?

Like dating girls that, like, grew up around all this shit when you came from the fucking mud out there in Canada? No. Not really. I don't know. I mean, these fucking uppity-ass L.A. girls, and I don't know what the fuck to say to them because they just, they grew up out here. L.A. girls are boozy. Yeah. I don't know.

I don't know. L.A. girls are boozy. I don't know. I like angry-ass East Coast girls normally. I'm not girls from out here, but she's Armenian, so she grew up in, like, an ethnic community, so like... I like all types of girls. Yeah. That's what I feel.

How you feel about industry plants? What? How you feel about industry plants? Industry plants? Is it a problem? It's a real thing? It's part of the industry. I just feel like when someone blows up and they get a buzz, just like, if they get, and then they sign a deal, they're just going to put the bag behind them.

Hmm. Nowadays the labels are so on alert for talent that it's like it's easy to become an industry playing because chances other labels are going to figure out you got talent before the fans just start blowing your songs up, you know? Yeah. I don't know. I just, I don't know. That's part of the game. I don't know. The labels like control a lot of shit. You know, it's hard to stay independent. So once you get that independent buzz, you're going to end up signing a deal. Then if you got that buzz, they're just going to blow you up. It's just so different. No one really like, all that industry plan, like, I don't know. No one's really just like signing people and blowing them up and shit. right or like coming from literally nothing signing and then make it at all i feel like it there's a lot of failed industry plants out there like the labels are trying it all the time and it doesn't work very often no the problem right now is labels are signing shit too early and then like well like that's what the label does they'll sign a kid too early for this little bag and then they expect you to do it so then it's like a win for them yeah you know and if it's a loss it's whatever the other one of the other

20 kids will make it and make the money back right and it's just such a different mentality than it was a couple years ago because a couple years ago somebody like X or pump or whatever who had like little bidding wars going on for their services it's like they would have got signed so fucking early because they wouldn't have really been able to sort of like develop privately without at some point somebody being on top of that shit you know no that's a bit of sure sure they would have figured it out um I did want to ask about Fifi before we rap how the hell did that song come about that's a huge song with like such a weird history to it now at that this point. Yeah, I made the beat in LA in my kitchen on my kitchen table and I thought it was

like an anthem for Drake. I sent it to Drake. Got no response. I was like, all right. And then I went to, um, I went to, I went to, I went to New York and we were in New York and like one of the guys I was with in York's like, yo, like you do something with six nine. And I wasn't like, I wasn't like really like a fan of his music but they're like yo to do it I'm like all right I'll just do it just fuck it haven't pulled up whatever like you know what I'm saying like it'll be like it'll definitely be like an experience like I don't know what the fuck's gonna happen and then he pulled up and then that was one of the beats that he was fucking with we made Fifi that night and then Nikki really fucks with me so then she somehow got on it like I don't know she really fucks with me so she felt

like I was co-signing six-nine so then she got on the record and that shit went huge that's crazy because everybody was so surprised to see her working with six nine but you were kind of the end there yeah that's interesting yeah and then it became you really fucks with me shout out to nicky like one of her biggest songs in years huge fucking massive song probably one of your biggest songs too for sure right 100% that's crazy that's been a wild ride no one expected that song to be that big yeah that shit went crazy but see six nine the way he was promoting songs on instagram and shit like with little snippets and then like because like you got understand when you're an artist and you post a snippet even like with one two three like when you

post a snippet of a song and the snippet goes viral you're making the song a hit before it comes up then when the song comes out it's like boom it's just like a hit you know yeah people are waiting for it there's been times where i've seen people mistime it like hype a snippet up too much and then by the time the song comes out nobody cares but a lot but when it works it could be like super good and six nine was the god of that shit no he was and that's what kind of happened with one two three with me and perp we like we like posted it like that night when we made it And then like months went by and then like we kind of we posted it again. Yeah.

And then it went viral again and then we dropped the song. That's funny because I remember I was I was on that too where I had it and I kept kind of like just playing in the background on Snapchat's and shit just fucking with people. And I was getting hit up nonstop about that fucking song constantly. And then it started to slow up when we were about to drop it. So we re we re-dropped the snippet and it went viral again. It was crazy. It's weird how people sometimes gravitate more towards the leaks and the snippets than they do to the final. product like it can somehow make it more

excited about a song just because they know it's not supposed to be out. No, that's some real shit. That's wild. I know. People are out here hacking shit, leaking shit. I don't know. Really? You get those emails like somebody's trying to sign into your Gmail and fucking check a Slovakia? Go on like two weeks ago. Someone was trying to hack everything.

Yeah. One time, I'll never forget. Yeah, like last year I was like on my phone and popped up. Someone was on my ICloud in Moscow. I was like, damn. Changed all my shit. Put the two-step authentication on You need that. And then I think after you do that, you're straight, though.

Yeah, two-step is very, very big, unless they really get you with some smart shit. Yeah. Yeah. What do you've been working on lately that you're excited about? My own stuff, Migos, a little bit of Drake. You on that quality control album? Yeah. I did the, I did a song with Mango Fu and Offset, Get them in, and then I did Pastor with Cuevo, Meg the Stallion, and City Gros.

Oh, hell yeah. I only listened to it a little bit less now. I'm going to get back into it. Thugs album is fire. Thug album. I listened to three times already. That's amazing. Fyke's fire.

Yeah. Thug shit's fire. We're going on a lot of stuff. I don't know. It's like a lot of different shit. All like the typical rap stuff. And then I'm going on tour with ASAP Ferg and made in Tokyo, November and December. Really?

That's going to be crazy tour. That's exciting. What do you, like, you as a person, what do you feel like you're getting out of going on tour as opposed to just being at home working on music? Like, do you just yearn for, like, actually getting out there and traveling? or is it straight up like a business decision or how's that work in your mind well you you know what I'm saying like I don't know just being in the crib all the time you get comfortable too right you sit there you just get lazy and shit so it's good to just be on the road get back into that vibe and then just being in front of people building my brand you know I'm saying you gain fans every show

definitely and those are like you're going to gain some diehard fans that are going to buy your music and really support you you know yeah so and then making music on the road oh you do get that saying me and furt probably gonna make a whole album album like before tour on the road and then me and me and Tokyo are gonna make some shit too you record on the bus yeah make beats on the bus and shit you don't ever get studio space while you're on the road or is that happen sometimes it's not really it's rare yeah if you get a couple days off maybe but it's just like city to city yeah you know dude you don't want to get on the jesus world program where he's gotten so used to just fucking recording all night and then catching the jet in the morning because he's like so he'll just

get so into the session recording and he's like ah fuck it well We'll just take the jet. I did one session with Juice World like a week before he signed his deal and we did like 14 songs in one session. Sounds about right. Crazy. Insane. I mean, they call him an industry plant. I don't know.

I feel like he just had a buzz. He buzzed and then he signed and then he had a big song and what are you going to do? You're going to put the money behind the song. Yeah. The problem is just that the fans found out that Juice Road was fire at the same exact time that all the labels did. So it's like he already had songs that were blown up, but they were like 50, 100. to thousand plays or something. I found out about Juice World when he dropped the all girls are the same video. Oh yeah. That was Cole Bennett. That was when it was official. When he dropped that show,

I was like, damn, it's just fire. Yeah. Like, damn, all girls are really hard to say. The day I bet Juice World, like, he leaves and then Cole Bennett came and we were hanging out and I just said. I'm like, yo, you heard Juice World? He's like, oh yeah, I'm about to do his first video. I'm like, it's over. It's going down. I feel that. As soon as you get a Cole, A Cole video and a No Jumper interview. To be honest, it doesn't mean it's a sure thing. It just means that if it's going to happen, it's probably going to happen now. Because this is your, you're in front of a lot of eyeballs right now.

Yeah. You want that TjX6 wave? I was actually going to watch this interview. I was going to watch it. The music is fucking ridiculous. Because he said he's exposed a bunch of shit or something. I mean, he just talks about everything that there is to talk about. I was going to watch the shit.

I think I heard a couple of songs. from though he's fire oh my god if you do production for him that would change the game hey just an idea stay tuned beats on the way um y'all i appreciate you coming through no i know this had to happen i know you can hit me up i wanted to come you know what i'm saying i've been i've been wanting to do this so i'm glad we just did it appreciate it definitely do an update soon i got a publicist she made it happen there we go i've been dm in this motherfucker for like months and months and then all of a sudden she just i talked about told her, I'm like, go, give me the video.

It's not that I wasn't going to come. I was just, you know. I didn't go away from the time. I would probably hit you up today. I appreciate it. Because the other time that you came here, remember we went paintballing together? With Perp? The other time, like the time that you came here and started making a beat here?

Oh, the laser tag. Oh, laser tag. That's what, yeah. I would remember if I got hit with paintballs. That's what I was thinking, too. I didn't get hit with a paintball that day. That was weird. There's that funny-ass photo of me and Perp and we're wearing the laser gear shit.

I killed everyone that day, too. I remember that shit being so confusing. I thought it was going to be totally different. You just have like a score at the end. People are just standing in place, just like racking up on you and shit. I'm like, what the fuck is this? That shit was fun, though. Yeah, that was cool.

All right, man. I appreciate you coming through. Yeah, man. Thank you for having me. It's big for Canada, too. Huge for Canada. Huge for Canada. It's a big one.

It's a big country with not a lot of people, but we love you all. I fuck with Canada, you know what I'm saying? You too, love it. Yeah, shit. We got all, like, we got most of the best. producers I'd say beautiful girls we got some beautiful women and we got some talented artists we just got a lot of talent cush it's our water I know you don't want it but they got some good cush it's the water in the ocean mm-hmm there is not the ocean the

lake the lakes as well I'm too used to being around oceans now baby you know what saying you change bro you definitely change you change for sure change for the better people ever said it do though you changed like duh it's like you don't change though it's the way way people treat you, they change. Right. Because they look at you differently. Yeah. So whenever someone says you change, then no, fuck, fuck you, you change.

But also, we just changed. It's like, you know. I used to be happy eating the shitty-ass food. I'm always growing, getting better personally and shit. Yeah. Always. I used to think that going to fucking Fridays was a nice meal. I changed.

I just figured out that it wasn't a good meal anymore. No offense to Fridays if anyone works out there or whatever. No, real shit. My manager, my mom, my girl, my boys, anyone's going to always push me. me to become a better person you know I always do yeah when you lose that's what because a lot of people in the industry bro you see in people they don't give a fuck

they're just run you to the ground and just like you know what I'm saying you could have been doing something a little different that could help your whole career because literally in this game one thing can fuck up everything you know what I'm saying one thing can make everyone just not want to fuck with you yeah ban you like Gucci that's a good point you know what I'm saying

they tried to ban them try to ban Russ too Russ tried to ban Russ for a long time You can't stop Russ Hey shout out to Russ though real shit He makes a fire music And he's selling

He's selling up crazy shows and shit Russ is more proof that anybody can do it Than me? No just that anybody can do it Like he just fucking made it in a way where he like Had almost no like industry support Like barely any like Media fucking

He's got like a real deal fan base too and shit It's crazy Exactly That's the one thing that people don't realize Like being like being like what I do, I make, like the music we make and shit, like, like, we listen to like critique. Yeah.

I listen to it. Yeah. You think I'll listen to rap music? I go home and listen to the Beatles. The music we make, like, we're like in like this, like, bubble of like only really like knowing this and caring about this music. But like, bro, there's, like, I just did some music with like this Japanese group called Bad Hop.

Like they're like the biggest like like rap group coming up in Japan. Like in Japan, there's like crazy demographic with even more musicians. and people and fans and stuff. Like, we got to touch all that shit. We can't just be national trying to get fans in L.A. and an American and Canada. We need to go everywhere. There's a lot.

I was just in England for a couple weeks. There's so many good-ass English rappers that are fire. The UK rappers are amazing. They're all fire. One of these days, it's going to break throughout here. It's going to be like the girl rappers that was just always like Nikki Minaj and she was like the queen of it. I feel like the next superstar rapper is going to be from the UK. It could totally happen.

Real shit. It's going to be crazy. scary like super superstar like a like a Drake level or something it's definitely gonna be like a UK rapper I could see they got their soup they're so talented over there you know that's so true and like the UK and Canada is like very like similar in a lot of ways because once they would let one through like one UK dude like skepta skepta's fire skepta is so fucking he's he's super talented making it makes his own beats and shit like super fire gigs like everybody section boys I feel like we're going to end up looking back on skepta and gigs and shit and be like they were too early for

what might be coming in terms of like UK rap really kind of conquering 100% because that skepta is so good so you know what I'm saying it won't be too early they gave the way yeah they're living good for sure murder beats my man appreciate you appreciate you murder beats no jumper coolest podcast in the world check us on youtube sound cloud iTunes like comment and subscribe go check out that new music you know what I'm saying shopping spree go watch the videos the funniest video you will watch i guarantee you will shed it to your cry let us know if one of the point was wrong about it i guarantee she was offended but you're gonna love it appreciate joe