No Jumper - The NJ Show # 248 w/ Swifty Blue & Compa Raider

Episode Date: June 19, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I probably need like two of them things. Hey, my SIG smoking like Patty and Selma, you feel me? And you can say something. And I've been in the DMV. Something like that or like. Come on, fool, they are ready. Oh, man. For the banger?
Starting point is 00:00:17 Dude, I moved packs in the DMV like Patty and Selma. With two twin Sigs smoking. See? Okay, yeah. I didn't get it at first because it didn't rhyme, but then I thought about it. I'm like, all right, that was hard. call him Louise and Thelma.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Ooh, with two six smoking, call him Louise and Thelma. I'm moving peas in Selma. I got Flintstones in the trap like Belma. I'm horny like a Viking, about to find me a Helga. And I got my feet up because my last blood came up shorter than an elf does. I'm about to sign Brick baby just a shelf cuz. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Treel said back on Figgis, fella, you need to help cuss. Mmm. Hmm. So many considerations with how I respond to that. I don't say. Yeah. And now this, and now this channel has spent zero days without talking about T-Rell, brough. Ah.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Oh, yeah. Here we go. Well, no, no. You want to know how hard? How hard was it yesterday for me to be doing an interview with the two black baddies that you've seen on my story? Yeah. So one of the, they were the chicks who, you know, the NFL player who got sent running through the hallways of the hotel? That NFL player.
Starting point is 00:01:45 What's his name? Terell Owens? Exactly. His name is Terrell. And the whole interview, the girl is just talking about him and calling him Torell, Tarell, and I got to just sit there and just not make jokes about this because, like, she doesn't, she's not going to get it. I don't need to make a joke. I'm like. She was saying some crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:01:59 How are they going to do it? doing my boy T.O. like that. Oh, that was T.O. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Oh, is it not? I thought that was somebody that still played football.
Starting point is 00:02:12 He is. He's an active pro. Tirol Lewis. Come on, Louis. Yeah, that wasn't T.O. Yeah, yeah. I was thinking this whole time I was CEO. This ain't even a newsworthy item.
Starting point is 00:02:23 It is. I don't think Vell's mic is on. Wait, hold on. Sorry, Mr. Lewis. Is it? Spant-S-A. Is it a ape if you dig something out and run off on the tab? Well, that's kind of like what me and them were discussing in large part during that episode is like,
Starting point is 00:02:43 is that behavior that is worthy of condemnation. I would say, okay, I mean, I respect it. I respect somebody robbing somebody in general, right? But like, generally speaking, no, I think, yeah, that's pretty lame. Like, you got to, it's the same thing as running off on the plug. And if the girls are not going to shoot you and kill you for the most, part, but they are going to film you running naked down the hallway and expose you, right? So this is why it's important that pimps are still in the mix.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Wait, hold on, though. They don't got one. They made that back to say, yeah. Duh. They would have to, first of all, this is where you went wrong. How did you not get compensated before you situated? Yeah. Situation.
Starting point is 00:03:21 His situation lies, he don't really got to give you nothing. I won't even, facts. I don't want to expose the whole story because it is coming. very soon in the context of her interview, but she explained it like this. It's like a real window into the mind of a booty buyer, you know? I never really like did enough
Starting point is 00:03:40 of it to really like understand what the life hacks might be, you know? I bought some booty. She basically breaks it down like this. I know. And then you told her that you were a no jumper host and then her pimp tried to threaten you over the phone. You run around for that. A bit of a
Starting point is 00:03:56 convoluted version of this, yes, essentially. Whoa. There is, there are nuggets of truth to this. That escalated fast. Speaking of nuggets. All right. But so, homie sees that she's in town.
Starting point is 00:04:06 She got flown out by a rapper, right? Yeah. He taps in with her. He basically says, you know, I'm trying to come through or whatever, and he's got her for X amount of hours, you know, like he buys up her time for the night, right?
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah. So then they start getting it in. He finishes real quick. She said that his thing didn't even get soft. I'm like, oh, that's the dick pill, for sure. That's like, you know, for sure that's not. That's not just like human shit. And she was like, oh, I thought maybe it was a perk.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I'm like, a perk is more like you're going to get hard. You'll be banging for like a long time before you finish. But when it's over, the show is over. Whereas if you come with the honeypack energy, you're going to finish and you're going to want to go right again and everything. And so that was okay with her. She said basically like they took care of him two times. He falls asleep. And then in the morning, two.
Starting point is 00:04:58 He starts going for a third round. Woo! I respect it. You got it for the same. Ain't nothing wrong with it. He's a professional athlete. I'm a choosy shopper myself, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:09 He's a professional athlete, bro. What do you expect? Myself, if I were going to be coping, you know, if I'm giving her in five bands, 10 bands, I don't even know. And he got her and her friend, it's like, I'm trying to get my money's worth. I'm hit. You're going to get a lot. I want to not even be in a backpack.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Hey, you got another one? I want to not even be able to think about. sex after I'm done. Yeah. To me, like, I want to be completely exhausted. One mic, motherfucker. I want to be completely, I want my, my penis to be extinguished to the point where it is useless.
Starting point is 00:05:41 But at the same time, I got a, it got a, shrivel up. Yeah. Are you going to rent a Lambo and not drive it? You've got a top tier, a top tier, test dub in the building. I wouldn't say a Lambo, but. I'm saying if she, if she costs five, 10 racks, that's clearly to him, that's higher She's a high-end vehicle. So how much?
Starting point is 00:06:01 Well, we can't go into that. We're going on. She didn't tell me the rate. Because, you know, she's trying to charge everybody like differential pricing and everything, which I understand. You know, it's like the prices may vary. I see your interview, bitch. You got this guy. Prices may vary.
Starting point is 00:06:14 It's called, what is it? It's flexible pricing or something where it's like, you know. It's called OBO. Okay. You know what you can do if you're a lawyer, but you can't do it if you work at 7-11 is like a bum walks in and you're like, yeah, we'll sell you the piece of pizza for a dollar. And then a guy in a nice suit walks in and you're like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:06:34 the pizza's $5. But like a lawyer can do that. You walk in and he sees you as a lick, boom, you charge you whatever. Nowadays, they call that discrimination and racism. But, you know, to me, that's like, that's just the game. It's more like discernment in good business. Oh, the same lawyer that
Starting point is 00:06:51 fought my case before they knew I was rapping when I I ran and bumped my head a couple months ago. Oh, my God. I said, well, hey, this isn't even half the trouble I was in for the four years that you fought for 20,000. What are you talking about? You want 80 grand for me.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Like, why? Because he perceives you as being better off now? Yeah. He wants you to make up the difference from earlier when you shortchanged. Oh, and he is a she. So she's definitely got her female. Is it a blonde woman? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:26 It's not the same one that was the lawyer. for like for Anton Antoine Dixon and stuff, was it? We knew this one blonde white lady. Mika Terporton. I don't think so. But we knew this one blonde lady
Starting point is 00:07:38 and she was the lawyer for like all these hood dudes that we knew. And we were like, wow, you were just so trying to get. Yeah, me and Anton.
Starting point is 00:07:45 She's like Lisa Lampinelli. We was in jail together while he was fighting his case. Antoine? That's the dude without a take. Because I'm like, where I know you from? I'm from East Coast.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I've seen that nigga too. No, I see you all fucking Fairfax before, bro. that gangbagger like he's like yeah I'm a skater too but I'm from east coast he's a gangbanger man yeah I don't know what extent hey he was tripping him I swear to God I was very surprised he was tripping my nigga banged on him and he was like all that nigga bro I seen him in medical bro I swear to God he was on 10 I'm like he was like a completely different oh when he was off hell of drugs he was an animal
Starting point is 00:08:20 he was like yeah yeah watching that cool he's way different now on skate bids he was damn near more entertaining like as a person than his skating But, you know, a lot of people, like, will live through their drug addiction and come out the other end of it and, like, their style suffers. They just don't have the cool swag. But, like, you go to his Instagram. Like, he still looks unreal good on a skateboard. Yeah, yeah. He has, like, some most timeless style of, like, anyone ever.
Starting point is 00:08:43 One of my favorite skaters is. He's way back. And shout out to everybody who's calling us scammers because you do not see two additional Rasa members on this podcast. Let me tell you what we're going to do. We're going to do about two hours tapped in with the brick man, the lush man. and trap vizzi, aka Vel BMX, and then we're going to bring in Swifty Blue, formerly known as Chi Chi Blue,
Starting point is 00:09:07 and Compa Rader, who named Swifty Blue, Chi Chi Blue, and then we're going to have a whole Raza panel, plus Brigg Baby. Oh, wow. And Lush, and me. Couple fades. A couple fades, you know, yeah. Hey, Nathan, you know that's where I park a lot is for.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah, we need you there to be there to be the interpreter to make sure that all the Mexicans, when they get together, then I'll just start being all racist and stuff. No, they're going to, it's, it's, uh, never mind. I was about to say some racist shit. No, but it was a funny joke that the hobbies be saying too. So, but I was about to say it's one on one, nigga. They ain't, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:46 It ain't to be. Should we do that right now? Should we go through all of our favorite racist jokes? Definitely not. No. No. Fuck it, let's do it. What's your favorite racist joke?
Starting point is 00:09:56 I don't want to. You start. We're on every foo page by the end of the day. They only even got to watch. It's just going to be on a foo page in two seconds. Oh, God. I'm not even getting a viewer out of it. You're just going to sit over there and just foo me up.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah, not. No, bro. Foo me up, fam. But, yeah, so we got about two hours worth of content before we bring in those two psychopass. So shout out to everybody who's watching this right now. Please do us a huge favor. Click the like button. tap inwardly leave a comment
Starting point is 00:10:27 get active in the chat we're very excited to be here I do see that we already have one donation that came in shout out to my N-word VL BMX sticks in the check cocaine bot nomads dot focus on Twitch shout out to my nigga dot shout out dot focus I play call of duty with dot really
Starting point is 00:10:42 dead homies that's the new guy we retired the other dot because we found out he had a bot farm oh we got to change his name from K dot to K bot Do you see that? Hold on. Hold on a second. Do you believe it?
Starting point is 00:10:57 Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I feel like this is a last-ditch effort to try to take away legitimacy from greatness. So legitimacy was already taken away by K-Bot when he decided that he was going to bot Drake's dislikes. Okay, wow. Yeah, what's up with that shit? What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:11:18 Information warfare. This is just another- You're talking numbers. We're talking impact. Yeah. You can't buy that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The impact was determined by the like bar, by the dislike bar.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Think about it. The dislikes that K-Bot-Bot are only one piece of the puzzle. There's so much more to this that K-Dot faked, K-Bot-faked, including the fake allegations that he put on Drake, etc. We're only beginning to uncover all of the information warfare that was taken. You should have thought of that, Drake. you should have thought to thumbs down a million times. You straight thought that he was playing the game with somebody of honor. No,
Starting point is 00:11:58 he was going against the man who was willing to use Russian disinformation, the same thing that Donald Trump was charged with a felony for. Do you know where this nigga from? This the hill? This the hill right here? This is the hill right here? Yeah, I'm going to die right here. Yeah, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I'm done. No, I'm just making a good podcast. I don't give a shit. No, for sure, buying bots, like, you know, There's so many other messed up things you can do in war. I just feel like... You could literally creep on somebody and, like, blow their fucking brains out, and that's just part of war.
Starting point is 00:12:28 But the thing is is this... But Drake's machine is so much disproportionately larger. Pause. We saw the photo. We already know he has a big dicklush. All right. Meat reviews aside, the whole entire system in place that's pushing Drake and getting him to as many ears and eyes as possible.
Starting point is 00:12:48 He's so much disproportionately larger than Kendrick's is. For him to do little things like that is nothing but strategic. Plus, it doesn't take away in any regard to, like, what Brick said, you can't fake what you hear on outside. There's no bots on the box. In real life. That is the record of the summer.
Starting point is 00:13:06 It is. The most streamed record in his case. And we believe, hold on, because you guys are so like, oh, Drake was with the girl, but did he do something with the girl? Oh, Kendrick. So we believe this fucking dude.
Starting point is 00:13:20 that caught in on Axe shit and said that he bought it and we're just supposed to just go for you i'm gonna be real i didn't even watch it i don't even know what act said about it i don't know what the allegation was i was just running with the narrative so i actually have no fucking clue but i do like the idea that kendrick you're a scammer um but the thing is ultimately ultimately like you can't really fake like what this dude accomplished with that and and like drake the fact that he's not beyond reproach and you could even use that angle says that there is something there. Even if that angle isn't really right, the fact that it even stuck.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Because I guarantee, like, they tried to wash me in any way they could, quote unquote, they, when people tried to destroy your boy as much as they could. And that's not an angle they could ever use on me because there's not that in the ethos. There's not text with me and 13-year-old up-and-coming fucking stars.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Like, hey, that was a great show last night, babe. Here want some advice about your new boyfriends? He didn't hit her with the babe. I'm just saying. Yeah, he did. the babe in there. Babe. Two and an 11-year-old is Tracy.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Crazy. No, okay. I feel you. You feel what I'm saying, though? Compare yourself to Drake and Kendrickson. No, look, I'm just using me. Of course it is. Of course it is.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Exactly. And that's on such a microcosmic scale. Of course, it's way bigger and way more magnified. And when you're dealing with someone... We saw the picture, bro. Yeah. Right. That's what you see.
Starting point is 00:14:45 This thing is a big. Okay. But even at the most heated moments in my back, and forth with the ops with Lush One, et cetera. Never did it even occur to me to like invest in a ton of dislikes or invest in, you know, a bunch of fake views for our content to make us look better. Like that kind of puts you into the mind frame of just how low Kendrick was willing to sink in order to make sure that he got the W in this battle.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Yeah. Although we can't prove that this guy was actually put up to it by Kendrick, although it does kind of seem like that. We just want your phone because now I'm thinking that you gave that this like strategy. And now you're trying to use the strategy. I've never used the fucking strategy. I have a sterling reputation for not buying views, for not buying likes. Anyone who has witnessed the YouTube views on the No Jumber channel over the last hour
Starting point is 00:15:36 many years, there is not one single instance you can find in which our views look anything other than completely natural. And at times, fairly embarrassing. There's been plenty of times in which I would have to have an extra 50,000 views. a high extra 100,000 views just to keep up appearances. Did I actually go for it? No, I'm not that fucking pathetic. So did Sharp by dislikes on Suss's an interview?
Starting point is 00:15:56 I doubt Sharpe. What Suss interview are you talking about? No, because they was trying to clown him in the Reddit. I'm just saying. Did Suss have a fucked up dislike ratio on an episode? It was a bullshit. I think he did like 3K in a day and they tried to drag my boy for it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I haven't seen that. But in general, I would say that it's very, unlikely that anybody would have to like buy dislikes. I've had people buy dislikes. Buying dislikes is kind of hilarious. And it's insane because you can't even view the dislikes unless you have the Chrome extension so that you're able to view the dislikes. Like 95% of people are watching this right now have no idea how many dislikes is.
Starting point is 00:16:34 But that does deprioritize you in the algorithm. It does like dislikes do have an effect. In theory. In theory. Yeah. I've heard from very, very prominent YouTubers that the likes and the dislikes literally have almost nothing to do with how the content but isn't isn't him buying
Starting point is 00:16:51 dislikes like the digital equivalent to 50 cent buying 5,000 tickets to Jarl rules concert so there'll be no one in the first lucky it is except for the fact that the performance the performance of your records is pretty much like how people determine how well your records
Starting point is 00:17:07 are doing so it's able to what the fuck it's able to paint a more immediate narrative than like buying tickets for a random fucking show which is like Nobody really gives a fuck. Like, yeah, you can have a bad look if somebody gets a photo of you performing to a dead crowd or whatever. But I feel like it's it's far more heinous.
Starting point is 00:17:26 It's fun. It's information warfare on a, on a crazier level. Drake fan just. That's what I'm saying. No, I feel literally, my opinion on this is completely valid and completely legitimate. It's not like something that you would need to be a massive Drake fan in order to feel that way. You're literally the first person that I've spoken to, born in America. That's even brought this up. It's all my Canadian homies, and they're all rallying hard.
Starting point is 00:17:49 And seeing Manzden was deceiving the whole time. How quickly you forget, do you guys remember when the Capitol was stormed? Well, that was also the product of misinformation. It's a very big problem in our society these days. And it turns out that Kendrick Lamar and Donald Trump together are perhaps the greatest threat to this nation's sovereign power. Hey, for something. That happened on my brother. To me, K-Bot pales only to Donald Trump in terms of sheer danger when it comes to disinformation.
Starting point is 00:18:24 To me, it shows what a fucked up game we're living in to where you even got to do shit like that. Because if it was up to the people, it'd be not even a conversation. The general consensus has already proved that Kendrick won by significant margin. But that consensus was formed at least in part by the dislike ratio, which I agree. The dislike ratio is like the last thing that anybody would ever. suspect somebody to be botting whereas like live viewers is like something people bought very, very commonly.
Starting point is 00:18:51 But from my perspective, that's why they did it. Because it was like something that people wouldn't be likely to suspect them of. Yeah. But big dog, you low key just played yourself because a minute ago you said that the only way to even view the dislike ratio.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Exactly. The Chrome extension. That's why it was so unlikely for them to pull this strategy and that's why they knew that they would be able to pull the wool over everybody's eyes. But you also said a minute ago that according to a lot of top YouTubers, it doesn't really have that much of an adverse effect. But they
Starting point is 00:19:23 know that people view it as being important. So that's why they did it. This is a crazy straw man argument for the fact. Well, the guy did it. I mean, they're admitting it. Until I see a rebuttal that seems authentic, I'm going to continue to believe that this battle was swayed by
Starting point is 00:19:39 disinformation. Sometimes you just got to pop out in show brothers. Sometimes you've got a lot of out of show figures, bro. I mean, the, the,
Starting point is 00:19:49 the, the, the, the, the, the, the, bro,
Starting point is 00:19:53 like, this shit shook the streets, like, they're, like, when's the last time the streets
Starting point is 00:19:58 have been shook like this, bro, from my, just one song, bro, like, nigga,
Starting point is 00:20:02 I'll pull up to 7-11 playing that shit, my fuck is walking past my car and shit, be like, hey,
Starting point is 00:20:06 these bitches and shit, like, hey, I hear nigg's passing by me in traffic playing it, like, I would just,
Starting point is 00:20:11 never, I would never listen to that song publicly. What? It's too, it's just too. I listen to it for like three days. It has evil energy about it. No, this needs to. Yeah, they're trying to take down one of the great American,
Starting point is 00:20:24 North American entrepreneurs of our time. No, through a series of untrue allegations. And this is what they do. Once you reach a certain level of power, they will come to you and they will try to take you down. And if they don't have something really good to take you down with, they will lie.
Starting point is 00:20:38 And that's what that record symbolizes. Adam, it's just like BMX. Hip hop. This is a man. sport you feel me you got to you got to you got to be ready for competition at all times when kr s one very pervertedly so in retrospect said roxan chantay is only good for steady fucking that wasn't true you might have been a virgin at the time but that bar resonated we're going back to 1980s but isn't krs one complicit in african bad bodice crimes against uh right but that's not the point the point
Starting point is 00:21:04 is if it makes sense and the people believe it and the bar resonates that's that's all that we care about. And at the end of the day, you have to be war ready. Let me explain to you the difference between BMX and hip hop and why when, you know, hip hop people, when rappers encounters skaters and BMX is why they have so much respect for them is because if you can grind the 30 stair rail, there's no fudge in the details. You did it or you can't do it. You did it and you broke your fucking kneecap open or you didn't do it. There's no faking it. There's no faking it. And that's why whenever I introduce rappers to someone who's like a pro skater or a pro bmxer, there's a big level of respect.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Because rappers know that in this game a lot of shit is fake the numbers are fake the jewelry is fake the drugs are fake The lean is fake etc The bitches are fake the bids are fake a ton of shit is fake The lean is fake And in BMX and skateboarding it's it's like almost nothing is fake So when we compare you can't compare Matt Hoffman and Tony Hawk to K-Bot because K-bot faked the dislikes on family matters and that means that he is a cap artist. But you can compare Matt Hoffman to Matt Hoffa.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And the reason why is Matt Hoffman never got knocked out on stage by your boy. First of all, don't disrespect Matt. Second of all, the reason I make that comparison, the reason I make that comparison is because battle rap is the last bastion of true competition. Some truth to that, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:35 That's where the overlay is. That's where the similarity. What's your favorite song off Eminem's album? the new one there's only one song yeah it was only one song but what is that
Starting point is 00:22:46 but what does that got to do with anything that I was just saying it was yeah the most random question possible to insert there he's trying to equate he knows what I'm saying yeah he's trying to equate
Starting point is 00:22:55 him to battle rap and he's trying to say battle rappers have no impact because Eminem's new shit trash get the fuck yo can I just say you would have been a battle battle rapper
Starting point is 00:23:05 I read that that is now that I've had some time to spend with it. And I've heard that that is the most popular Eminem song of the last 10 years. That is one of the worst songs I've ever heard ever in my life. Like that song is an abomination. That song represents so many bad decisions made. Like what, like, what is it about Eminem that he refuses to grow? And he refuses to like become something other than what he has been in the past. That when he makes this grand reemergence, almost no way. Almost no artist that you can think of would be so shameless
Starting point is 00:23:43 that they would just sample one of their old records and then just do a bunch of little lyrical whatever on it and just like have that be their new thing. Like the fact that that idea was able to be actually like ushered through the label and everything and that so many people approved to this, to me is just baffling. And the fact that people like it that much. Well, you know, M has final cut on everything he does.
Starting point is 00:24:07 He runs his own shit. The label is fired up. I'm saying I'll drop it. Yeah. It's the biggest problem. But what do you think that if Eminem was actually in charge of his own career that he would want to do something cool and not something super gay? Because to me, it's just so cringe to put out your first single is a throwback to the first single
Starting point is 00:24:28 that you ever put out. It's like, okay, bro. Like, why? Why do we have to do this? Well, look, he does. He's white. He could be tight, dude. He could be bad ass.
Starting point is 00:24:37 He doesn't have to do this gay shit. Here's the thing. I know people that are pretty close to Em in his camp, and he does not listen to anybody. There is no advice. There's no, like he has no advisors that he really values the opinion of he's going to do what he believes. And if you're not on his timing, you're not going to be around. And that's basically what time it is with him.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And the thing is this. That much seems clear. What was unfortunate about M to me is that where he has evolved in his eyes is his delivery, certain aspects of his skill set. He kind of like, I feel like was influenced by like the tech nines of the world. The only way. He thinks that rapping super fast means that. He has grown in one way and one way only,
Starting point is 00:25:22 which is that he continues to string really complicated lyrics together. But everything else in terms of his, his artistry has been frozen in time. He has not grown in like 10, 15 years. If it's not broke, don't fix it. I miss the whole like, you might see me walk in the dead right while the dog. with his head cut off. Like, I missed that in the name.
Starting point is 00:25:42 You know what I'm saying? Like drill rap like his. Like really, he would say something complex, but anybody could get it. He would do it in a way where, and this is where, when he had a, the, the Bass brothers, um, engineering his records. This is when he had, Dre right there with him, when he had, when he's taking. Oh, my God. Imagine Dr. Dre who has been working, like, sequestered away, working on music for all
Starting point is 00:26:06 these years. We've heard so few records from him over the years. imagine if he actually has involvement in M's career, imagine him approving that being the first single. I don't get it. And I don't get how these motherfuckers, I assume it's not our audience, are actually running up those fucking insane streams.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Who is listening to this song? I don't get it. He has a cult following out. Where are they located? I need to tap in with the cult. I'm thinking that they may have access to K-Bots. They are K-Bot. They do look over K-Bot.
Starting point is 00:26:36 That's their little hummus. This stands. Who? Aftermouth? Or, uh, she's Dre. He came through Dre. I mean, Drey was it. That was like, he definitely came out of a concert.
Starting point is 00:26:45 He definitely came through Dre. No, no, no. What records are produced by Drey in Henry's career? It doesn't matter. Him even being on that women weed in weather, him being on that song. That basically is what set K.D.O. So one song.
Starting point is 00:27:01 But I don't know. There might be a lot that I'm missing out on. A seminal record right while your debut album, major labels coming out. fuck with KDai. I'm not saying he didn't fuck with him. It just, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:27:12 you know, when they say every single rapper from the West Coast has gotten a co-signed from Dr. Dre. It's like it doesn't seem like Kendrick got the biggest co-sign, right? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:21 it seems like he's up there with one of it. I don't know. It seems kind of minimal from my respect. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. he doesn't even reach out
Starting point is 00:27:29 and even get involved at all. Dr. Dr. And I'm happy for it. Dr. Dr. D. saying publicly,
Starting point is 00:27:34 the keys of the West are yours. We are, like we are all behind you. That statement held, especially at that time, held a lot of weight. Maybe he says something right now. It's kind of surface level, though, right? If he did that with X4 right now or whoever. It'd be crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:49 He don't wouldn't say too much. Like you never hear Drey making statements of that caliber about anybody. But doesn't it just, it feels superficial. It feels like when they did that concert and they had Drey and that M&M and everybody passed the key to the city down at Kendrick or whatever, it just doesn't feel like there was like a real follow-up. on that when you think about how easy it would be for him to like produce a couple records for well he did am i wrong that that hasn't really happened well he did work with him on the uh the that the
Starting point is 00:28:16 nwa soundtrack the the compton which was which by the way i listened to that a few times when it came out but is there a more forgettable project in the history of him which when you consider how long people were waiting for that record and then how prominent dr dr dr jay is i mean have you heard anyone mentioned that record in the last 10 years no it's like from the moment it came out people about it. Yeah. But there's like a lot of residual effects of that record because like a lot of people don't realize Anderson Pack was all over that record.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Prior to that, Anderson Pack was a regional, if not underground artists. Like that literally, there's a lot of things that happen as a result of working with Dre that might not be equivalent to whatever the stream numbers are. They stole one of my beats for that fucking, uh, bullshit they put out. Is it? Main character syndrome. No, they did. I know, but it's still main character syndrome.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Yeah, it is. Take it outside of the thing we're talking about, making it your own personal involvement. You got to throw that out there. How you forgot. Like, how did they, they, everybody forgot about this album and, like, one of the songs that I felt like would have went somewhere got canceled.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Scanless. Scandless. But go ahead. The thing is, like, ultimately, M and Dre both have the same issue. They're so successful. They're completely isolated from society. And they have no.
Starting point is 00:29:37 like M is so out of touch with what the average fan wants to hear and what people are really listening to. M is only conscious of one way to improve as a musician, which is to put words together in increasingly complicated ways and create increasingly complicated metaphors. And he's also seemingly got a real skill for putting together sort of superficial surface level pop culture references that might seem kind of edgy
Starting point is 00:30:04 to like, you know, if you've been living under a rock, for the last 20 years, but to anybody who's actually, like, on Twitter, they seem, like, extremely painfully cringe, which is my main observation when he was, like, the Magnus Stallion line and stuff like that. Like, that was obviously intended to be, like, the headline getting lyric. Attention getting. But it's like, Eminem, like, is presenting this character on that song
Starting point is 00:30:26 where it's like, I'm so edgy, I'm so crazy, you know, I'm so offensive. It's like, nowadays, everybody's different. Cancel culture rages on. And, like, you know, somehow I'm, I'm the solution to it. And I'm just like, bro, no. You're literally doing, you know what you're doing? You remember like the couple of years there where like every single comedy special
Starting point is 00:30:44 was about cancel culture? Yeah. And like every comedy special was called like trigger warning or something like that. It's like Eminem thinks that that is still like a novel train of thought. And he wants to convince us that he's going to be the remedy to this. And it's like, this is hip hop. Like we don't really need somebody to like break down the walls of like what's offensive.
Starting point is 00:31:04 This is the one section of society and what you're still allowed to be offensive. And you show that with that lyric, but in a very, very superficial way. That's a docile way. I can basically guarantee that the album is going to have a bunch of
Starting point is 00:31:15 like extremely dated trans references and stuff because we just kind of know that Eminem is at like Joe Rogan's level from five years ago. I don't even know if he's edgy enough to do that. I don't even know if he's got the balls. No, no pun. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:28 he might actually think that the trans shit is off limits. He's going to, I just feel like it's a certainty that he's going to address that and many other things in like a really, lame gay way. But the thing is, remember, this is the guy who at his peak, when we all actually listen to him, was saying things like hate fags, the answers, yes.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Homophobic? No, you just heterophobic. He's not going to have anything that's edgier than that. Exactly. On this whatsoever. And on top of that, like, from a wordplay perspective, let me explain to all the novices of the world
Starting point is 00:32:02 why shot at a feat and a meg the salient bar is whack from a, lyrical perspective because nobody ever in casual daily conversation says shot at a feet where you like uh as far as like when you're like a brick brick's like oh i'm gonna be doing a song with dirk soon i might have a shot at the feet you know what i mean no one would ever say it i agree yeah that it's like a notebook lyric because if you're reading it it makes a lot more sense it's like if you if you see it on twitter it makes more sense i saw it on twitter before i actually heard it so it made sense to me immediately i probably would have got it either way but
Starting point is 00:32:36 either way, it's like, it's a fucking stretch. Like, let me show you what good wordplay is, like, battle rapper, rumnitty, right? Rumnitty said, and then I really says something about like he's shooting, he's going to shoot somebody, and then I'll really give you justice, a vigilante. Like, so you get a vigilante and tea, you feel me? And vigilante, that's a boy, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:54 But a vigilante, that's like actual phrase that'll be used in casual conversation. But M, like, has to use popular, wordplay. He has to use popular female artists of the time. Like he always will poke at them rather than go at, you know, like other popular dude rappers. Like listen,
Starting point is 00:33:13 if Eminem had a lyric in which he like made fun of a little baby. Or something. Right. Now we're talking. Because that's something who can actually fire back at you. He should be for somebody. Yeah. But instead, like the only, like, you know, I think he's poked at like pump and zan and
Starting point is 00:33:28 shit. Like he'll pick the easiest possible target. That's like what they say about Sharp. but Eminem really lives up to it. If Eminem had some bar against the baby. Not to shoot at church. I'm not going to shoot at the church. I'm not saying I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I'm just saying what they say about you is actually a very good description of Eminem and the way he wraps. No, I mean, that is the narrative. That's why I laugh. Yeah, I mean, it's not the most controversial narrative. Yeah, yeah. I got to give my girl the key shit at the back door.
Starting point is 00:34:01 You should shoot at her feet. give her a shot at a feet at a feet shoot on her feet see that would make more sense see if there was like a but if there was like a popular narrative in which somebody had their feet jizzed on
Starting point is 00:34:16 yeah exactly then for sure that would make sense I want to tell you about something that I realized as far as the if you want to update on the various dysfunctions of my questionable existence for the record I've seen that you did some podcast content with your girl, I have not actually tapped in. Which is, which is cool.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Which is actually dope. I feel like I would rather experience her IRL. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, she's going to show pop up at some point, but we did. Her and I tried to hook Rader up with her home girl. Okay. It turned out to be a huge disaster. Why was it such a disaster?
Starting point is 00:34:52 And we'll have Rader on here later to answer for his crimes against women and humanity. He has his own, his narrative currently is that I'm a hater and cock blocked him. literally I deserve Wayne Man of the Year award and was literally did everything in my power to make sure this dude actually not got
Starting point is 00:35:11 not just got some pussy but some quality pussy. So does he get pussy in his everyday life? Does Raider? Yeah. Yeah, I don't think he has a problem getting pussy. Are you just assuming that or?
Starting point is 00:35:22 Have you seen them? Have you seen the actual insertion? I have not seen the actual insertion. I have not seen the actual insertion. Like I've not seen any stroke. Come on. The only person on the no-jumper universe
Starting point is 00:35:34 who's choke I've seen Megapause is besides Adam besides Adam is being nice because that day yes oh you show he and I showed me a video
Starting point is 00:35:46 he folks like he's from Long Beach I don't even want to say what he was doing because I was going to come across really? Yeah like maybe I missed it maybe he showed you more clips than it showed me all right I'll just say it I don't be air and shit out that's why
Starting point is 00:35:59 you can't show Adam everything I've never seen you beat up some cheeks for all these years. I probably got something for you. Yeah? What the fuck? Wait, what? You want to hear a funny story
Starting point is 00:36:09 about me and him back in the day? Oh, man. So we just, like, casually, like, mentioned to Bell. We were like, yo, if you could get a girl
Starting point is 00:36:17 that come over here and you can fuck her in front of us, we'll give you $500. But we, like, are all, like, stoned as fuck. We're just saying shit. We're not really thinking anything of it, right?
Starting point is 00:36:26 We're just, like, talking shit. He calls, like, a hour later. He's like, yo, I found this bitch. I got her I'm gonna come through I'm gonna do this
Starting point is 00:36:34 it's because they thought I was a virgin yeah you used to always call him dry spell vell and they thought I couldn't get pussy bro great nickname great nickname I don't care if you've been getting
Starting point is 00:36:43 so much but you got like three kids of course I know you can get pussy but dry spell Vell such a good nickname it is pretty cool Dry Vell would have even better no dry Vell
Starting point is 00:36:54 car Vell when he's driving in his car this spell is like kicked up the ice with the ice cream pay job? Carvel, yes. So what happened? I was gonna get $500 and they flaked up.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Yeah, really like, $500 was a big deal all the time. They were trying to, man. You know, inflation. I thought I was, I was, I was young, bro. I'm like, $500. I was like, damn, you're gonna split this with the girl? He's like, hell no, I'm not gonna split in her shit.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I'm gonna give her $20. I'll probably smoke with her or something. Yeah. Did she know that she was about to be like, yeah, while fucking and everything. For sure. That's sick, right? Hey, you guys dropped the ball.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Hell yeah. Yeah, it was just fucking around. You know what I got to say about Bell, which I have the respect. And it's my first time seeing him since then. When the, like, when the, the lush, no jumper situation was going on, Bell was the first person to just be like, I don't fuck with you. Oh, wait. You told you, DMed him?
Starting point is 00:37:48 He didn't DM me or nothing. It was just, like, it was like, it wasn't that, like, I didn't fuck with you. It's just like, I'm, like, kind of like the outside perspective guy that just, like, kind of sees everything that goes on. And I know it was real. and I know what's not, you feel me? And I'm just like pretty straightforward and obvious as to like the truth and was not the truth. And like, shit just sounded a little weird.
Starting point is 00:38:07 And you know, I just. And you got love for your boy. Like even if I, but as much love as I have for this nigga, if he's wrong, I'm going to be like, this nigga. This nigga's sound stupid or this nigga is wrong. I'm not like a side picker or a favoritism like kind of nigga. I'm just going to call it as I could be my mom. Nigel, I'd be like, you fucked up. Like you did some weird.
Starting point is 00:38:24 To be fair though, like, you know, in the days after the lush. firing. I did, I got certainly like a lot of comments accusing me of being a dick primarily for like just the fact that it happened on camera. But it did seem like there was basically a consensus that Lush was a leaky faucet. Yeah, I was fucked up for that. It's like there wasn't that. It's like, but him saying he didn't fuck with you as a result. I feel like most people kind of stayed like sort in the middle of the road because it's like not really their business. It wasn't like I didn't fuck with you. It was just more so like a bro like it was like a it's obvious what happened. You feel me? And like you were trying to like sometimes you got to.
Starting point is 00:38:59 just like take shit and just be like all right I fucked up I get it but it was like you know I'm like bro like come but I've looked at it cause an effect just know that I looked at it as respect yeah and it's not that I didn't fuck with you like I'm just like you like I'm just what happened bro like come on I have a topic that I would like to raise what's said well tell us about your transition from oh I have a treat I have a pussy now yeah to having a job no not that transition we can get to that later we're going to talk about a damn no you got a big ass dick Tell me about the transition from the streets to where you're at now, where I see,
Starting point is 00:39:35 you got to follow veld. Atmx on Instagram because he'd be really bringing you into the life of a man who's working, getting paid union wages, doing the instruction and whatnot. And then also, carpets the streets at night. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:39:49 And we'll go hunt down some tacos in a remote corner of Long Beach. I'm not going to lie sometimes. Also, can I get a camel? A camel. A camel. I got you on the other. Not that. Damn.
Starting point is 00:40:00 You're sociopaths. You like them, no you? What's the difference? They have no filter. Yeah. Like myself. You smoking a motherfucking, a rowley? He's a sociopath.
Starting point is 00:40:10 He's a sociopath. He said, now we don't got no filters. What you were smoking inside? You had a filter? Nah. We were smoking toilet paper, fucking rolled, roll the shit with toilet paper and shit and paper. We're smoking paper, literally, paper. Two different types of paper.
Starting point is 00:40:25 So is that what? Paper and paper paper. So that experience made you want to get a job? Definitely. Let's talk about Tell me about this transition though Yeah you know
Starting point is 00:40:33 You had a lot of bad luck In the streets over the years Yeah shit was just bad She was bad The streets are the streets You feel me You can't really rely on that shit You feel me
Starting point is 00:40:42 It ain't got no love out there You know what I'm saying Like it's cool It ain't nothing new You feel me Like it's just no end game That shit stressful The streets come with problems
Starting point is 00:40:50 Bro and it's like At the point of like Like I'm 30 now I'm just like Bro like something's got to change I got kids You feel me And I actually care about my kids
Starting point is 00:40:58 So it's like You feel me You got to do better, man. Who helped you get into the union job? One of my boys from Long Beach. He just told me about it, like, and he was just like telling me to get into it, but I'm like, ah, fucking nine to five.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I'm like, you feel me? Like, I'm like, whatever, you feel me? And I thought about it for a minute. And then it just shit just got real. I feel like just sometimes life give you signs, bro. You feel me? And not a lot of people know to, like, you know, follow that shit or just even like,
Starting point is 00:41:24 not a lot of people commit to, like, changing. And, you know, they ignore the signs. You feel me? like it was a lot of signs and I'm like you know what like let me you know just be a little more legit you feel me don't get me wrong nigga we still on the streets you feel what I'm saying like what's your favorite drug to juke my favorite drug to judge yeah like what trap are you like addicted to like man I just even since you've been working like damn I wish I could go back to just my favorite drug to jug you already know that one I don't even think I could even
Starting point is 00:41:56 Tony Montana Don't in the money You're talking profit margins Yeah that's what I'm saying You got to feel like working for free In comparison to that shit Yeah yeah That's a labor or not
Starting point is 00:42:07 That's not selling drugs Selling weed is cool If you're selling bags Naga that shit cool If you're picking up 20 pieces 30 pieces that's cool you feel me But like even then that shit come with Riz nigga I got 30 p
Starting point is 00:42:20 I got a 50 pack on me right now Noggin' shit could get ugly bro You feel me like No main character But I, a man named Lush one once said, selling weed ain't even a crime. Selling blow, give your wrist or reason to shine. You feel me like, come on.
Starting point is 00:42:35 That's like a grandmaster flash-ass lyric. That's a bar, though. White lions. Well, Grandmaster Flash was the DJ. I'm gonna fuck. Me selling Lee. Like when I used to sell Lee, like, those jugs is like,
Starting point is 00:42:52 the profit is like whatever would juice, though. Yeah, now. I like the original juice. Oh, back then. I feel like if you want to be having a side hustle, you're making some pounds move, couple pounds a month or some shit, and you maybe even moving some other stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:08 You got to do more than a couple. It's still like you could still go to work eight hours a day. It's nothing wrong with working. Realistically, to make a living in the Los Angeles area at this point, you probably don't have to have a hustle and a job. You feel me? And it seems like you're getting paid quite well. The union pay, I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:43:26 off. I came from work straight here. That's why when I seen that, I was like, three o'clock this morning, nigga. That's hard. And I'm probably going to hit the bar tonight. My boy's turning up. Let him. You feel me? Because the bees come about that night.
Starting point is 00:43:38 You feel it? The feet's going to go down. My favorite veal hijinks that got that fucked up your hustle at one point was when you were working at the bar and you got fired for going on your Instagram story and writing, fuck it, I'm back trapping.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Who needs the snow? Fire. Yeah. And the bar The owner of the bar saw it. That nigga fired me, but I had already got into some a little,
Starting point is 00:44:02 a little coquiation before that too. Coquiation. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it was bad. I'm adopting that. You got a car server somebody at the board?
Starting point is 00:44:14 It was like, not like, yes and no. Like, I was just doing too much. You feel me? You know, niggas be, you can do too much. Diggas me like, you got to do it.
Starting point is 00:44:21 You're feeling yourself. Yeah, yeah. Nick was doing too much. Never you do too much. someone someone is going to shut that shit down somewhere awesome real shit though like if i if i can implore any message anybody that's still on the come up or recently graduated high school or is about to graduate high school i would sell drugs i would encourage i would encourage them all as opposed to
Starting point is 00:44:46 going to a four-year university and trying to get a bachelor's degree go join a motherfucking union go to a trade school. No, for real trades, bro. Get your trade up, you feel me? Trade is a way more. Ain't nothing wrong with wrestling, but. You guys learn coding. Learns the code.
Starting point is 00:45:04 That's what I'm saying. My whole thing is you don't have to, everything's on the internet now. Yeah, you can learn whatever you want to do. But everything from HVAC to you feel? Yeah, just, yeah. You get some kind of trade. If you learned how to set up a virtual doctor's office
Starting point is 00:45:17 and then you don't need a fucking MD. You just need to know the coding. Get order to do this shit. Well, is it tough as much as they are? Is it tough for you to, you got probably get up super fucking early for the job, right? Yeah, for sure. I'd be waking up and looking at your Instagram story and I'm like, damn, he was at 1.05.
Starting point is 00:45:32 3 hours before I woke up. 4 o'clock in the morning, nigga. 4? But you still hit the bar? Yeah, but I just, I don't be there until 1 in the morning. You're me like, I'm in the bed by like 10. If I had to get up at 4 in the morning for work, I would for sure be going to bed at like 9 p.m. every night. Yeah, I try.
Starting point is 00:45:50 It would be tough, though. I don't know what I could do it. I try. You got to put that bender life to work. You feel me? I say, fuck. That on my last for so long. That's why I refuse.
Starting point is 00:45:58 I refuse to let Compa Rader sit on this guy and just use, I was on a bender as his excuse for everything. That's one, at least one thing that I plan on instituting today. Well, like, this whole, there's going to be a lot of conversation about this whole thing with this,
Starting point is 00:46:14 uh, with this Hina that correct off. And it's, but because we literally just spoke right before this happened. And his, recollection of events is so astronomically out of touch with reality. Like,
Starting point is 00:46:28 I can't even begin to describe it. What do you know about the, the reconciliation between Swifty Blue and Kompah? Well, I know that from what I understand, they're cool. They linked up and said what they had to say. Whatever that means?
Starting point is 00:46:46 I found out about Kappa through Swifty. I was kicking it with Swifty, and Swiftie posted trash bag, I was in the field. I'm like, hey, a little whoop. Right. We put the woo-wap with the woo-wap.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Oh, really? You're whooping together. You know what's cold is, because there's been, we've had recent podcasts, compa, myself, Big Rick, Dumbies and all that, where we chopped it up about
Starting point is 00:47:09 who's the top Mexican rapper right now and blah-da-da-da. And I would bring up Swifty despite their discrepancy because from a lyrical perspective, and as a rapper, Swifty is by far one of the best. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:47:23 It's not even debatable. And he's above a lot of names that people would probably like to see above his, but coming from like an actual, what would you listen to, what music is dope, who could rap good perspective? Swiftie got it. He's nice.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And I never, despite my allegiance, because if it comes down to, do it, like, if I have to choose the side, I'm going to choose my bro's side, regardless, you feel, and me, like, now luckily in this situation, I didn't have to. I choose the Swifty side.
Starting point is 00:47:52 There you go. At all times. Really? You trust in Swifty more than Compa? Being Swiftie been in the field together. Like me and Swifty really been in the field. I've been to Swifty house. We can't drop all the lows,
Starting point is 00:48:05 but me and Swiftie really be slide. Like me, it was me, Swifty, Conrad, and Ripon for like four or five months straight every day. Really? You know he's a lead drinker. You know when you become a Kodin boyfriend. So you were serving him on a day-to-day?
Starting point is 00:48:21 Oh. We were serving, we wasn't really, we just had juice. Like, I had juice, he had juice. I can't imagine, like, being a regular sipper in an era where, like, a legit foe cost of rack is insane to me. Like, I can't be a trapper in a sipper. You can't just be a consumer. Yeah, but it's always like that to a degree. But those margins are just like.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Shout out to DeSavage. I don't mean to shit on his lifestyle or anything, but he'd been getting into it with his girl. And I've seen that she had an Instagram. post where she was trashing him and one of her main narratives was like can you imagine being in a relationship with a dude who just wakes up every day and his only care in the world is just getting some lean and some perks I'm just like I apologize to all my ex-girlfriends I'm like that's a crazy like portrait to paint to the man how are you going to do him like that well hold on you can be are you working first and foremost do you work I don't know what her lifestyle is getting your own money
Starting point is 00:49:22 Hey, Dickhead, get your mind right. They'll preach to me above my perky habit. This is my life. Stop playing. Hey, shout out the whole EBK. EBK, J-Boh is on an insane run right now. Go to J-Boh's YouTube or iTunes right now and listen to probably cursed and boogieman back-to-back. My man is on an unreal string of singles right now.
Starting point is 00:49:46 And even Apocalypse before that. Okay. Is the name Dickett? Dickhead? The name of that song. No, it's probably curse. Probably cursed. Is it, am I out of pocket for saying that?
Starting point is 00:49:55 He did so many skits. Is EBK J-BO the hottest rapper in the West Coast right now? Besides Kendrick, yes. Kendrick don't count. That's like another stratosphere. But what I'm saying is as much as Kendrick is like the real bookey man, he is the giant on the charts. Who the fuck is making noise besides EBCJ-BO? There's a fool making noise.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Who's doing numbers like that? He's got like multiple videos in a row that have like five, six million. million views in like a couple weeks. He's number one. He's number one. He's number one right now. He's the boogey man. He is the boogie man.
Starting point is 00:50:29 He pops up like the boogey man. And like obviously. Making bangers with no hooks again. If, I don't about to go drop one today. If Mazzie were to actually like come out with some new shit, he could potentially. We do have to throw Mazzie in the chat.
Starting point is 00:50:44 You can re-enter the chat. You're right. You're right. But he's, so that's what I was going to say. He's like, Mazzie's like, if he pays. asses the torch. It's like, here you go. Because he got a little Mazzi in him
Starting point is 00:50:56 with the new, he definitely got his own little swag going with it, but it's all from the origin of Mazi. He's one of Mazzi's kids. But you know what's crazy is, like, Draco got kids, he's one of my, but he learned how to flip it, so it's not really to
Starting point is 00:51:12 Draco. Yeah, no, I agree. But by the way, Vell, I think of you as like an old school, all-American-ass type of dude, a traditionalist. But then I see you with a Celsius and a white claw in front of you. And I'm like, damn, even the hardest dudes are corrupted by modernism. And I fucks with it.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I really don't give a fuck about a lot of shit. Straight up. I like that being here. I would do whatever makes me comfortable, nigga. No, it's lit. I'm just saying. You got a white claw for beer? That was all that was in the fridge.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Yeah. I swear to God, it was the last one. I snatched it. I don't even drink white claw, but that's what I'm saying. He tried to put you in a white car. I do whatever. You know me, Adam. If anyone know me, you fucking know me.
Starting point is 00:51:54 You act like he won't bait a homeless person right now. Like, I fought homeless niggas. Like, really outside with a homeless bum, nigga. He's risking hep C. I don't give a fuck, me, this, all that. Like, you feel like, like, you feel? I'm, I'm sure this nigga feel him to do whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I got this guy truck driver and Skid Row that you might need to pay a visit. What do you do? I thought that was the homie. That is the homie. That is the homie. Because I know you got an eternal vengeance against the bum. This bum K. Now? I would never do it.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I wouldn't fight a homeless nigga again. MK. No, but let's the know, drug driver got a little knife, and if Adam opening for him, he couldn't even open it. He got to spit all over it, and then he had me opening it up.
Starting point is 00:52:31 What is going? Oh, what the fuck are y'all talking about? This is a real. I thought he was joking. Last week, I hung out with this bum for like two hours downtown when we were on a graffiti mission filming some dudes new graffiti,
Starting point is 00:52:41 and I kicked it. He was making food on the grill, and I filmed him. The grill was a garbage can. I feel like if you're on a mission like that, then whatever goes on that mission, nigg, like, you got to handle your stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Truck driver's mission was just to stay alive by getting some food out of these cans. You said some weird shit. No. No. He was hung out of them while he could. He helped him get his spitty. So why you want me to beat him up? It's bum-key.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Oh, he's trying to like, he's trying to instigate some shit. You want me to fight your boy. He was, yeah. Okay. Whatever. He was like the top bum out there. He said that it was like this skits dude walking down the street. And one truck driver said.
Starting point is 00:53:17 He wanted me to top rate. I'll send you the clip. Dude, gone. And truck driver got on him. motherfuckeruckers shut up even though he was still like you know like so I live in a nice building but it's in you know Westlake which is
Starting point is 00:53:30 essentially McCarthy California you see that lady got popped for for selling meth across from MacArthur Park over the weekend I saw a lot of meth I saw nothing she had a lot of money too she had crazy eyes I was pointing that Atlanta and saying like look at how much money this person made that's probably just that day
Starting point is 00:53:47 of selling meth she was handling her scandal they got respected Bro, the shit that happens every day in my neighborhood. But if I started like, if I start tagging homeless K through how you're going to be in trouble. You're going to have some problems, nigga. You better watch out. To be homeless K is so much funny. You're bum K for service.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Homeless K. Because that just means if you ain't got a crib, we kill it. So what would the initials be? Oh. I was asking you a question. I was saying, like, if you're, if you're, if you're, You was on a quick mission. Okay, right?
Starting point is 00:54:24 Don't try to drag him into your business, man. He tried to put luscious some shit. Come on now. He says so. Why you're stepping on that carpet like that? If you do want to get the homeless K face tattoo, I mean, sure, why not? You want to do great on here. Easily.
Starting point is 00:54:38 I see your life declining. Like, I'm smacking you so hard. Decline it. Like, you get homeless Kated on your body. You cannot be with me. It just sounds so funny. Like, I can see that being a thing because there's, going to be like you can't afford to live like yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:54:54 tattered on my face lowering the property values you fucking privileged bastard homeless k yeah that's fucking that's fucking yeah that's a nigga that was like poor his whole life and then hit the lotto got rich as fuck would like start push yeah homeless k a nigga that switch up you feel we start push at age you know what it's funny is that makes me think differently about remember positive k yeah of course i got that's me anything positive kill it I don't fuck with it If you're positive
Starting point is 00:55:23 I'm gonna accuse you of glazing That's my positive So what would those initials be PK? What's that? Oh, swag You heard that I was gonna say that
Starting point is 00:55:35 I said You might catch me on a PK Ripper When I be you When I be you When I be you Hey, but do you guys catch wind of it's so funny just given recent history that when we're doing the Jason Lee and a whack podcast, Jason Lee said the words that upset that Comperator said. In a different context.
Starting point is 00:56:02 And it's totally different context. And when you watch it, like Wack didn't even react or like respond at all. But he did say the same exact thing the comparator said. Yeah, but he blinked like a regular person. No, no, no, no. You thought about it? That was to get yourself together. He's not him.
Starting point is 00:56:16 He's not a guy. That's like when I hear somebody say like Sissy or NAP, it's like, okay, that was a regular. You think about it for a second. You only go listen to that a couple. It's only going to be so many turn around. Yeah. Then I'm like, hey, you got another word for that?
Starting point is 00:56:31 Even if it's the square, like, if you go back to back, like when I first moved to Atlanta, they, all that siss-ass new. Oh, they say a lot out there. And I'm like, hey, yo. This, yo. I don't even think. Call him a punk or something. Do you really bother to, like, get involved?
Starting point is 00:56:48 Definitely. Or do you just, like, ignore it? No, after, like, two or three times. Yeah, three times, no ignore it. You got to stop. You got to go over there, so I don't know. It's just, I can't listen to it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:58 On the off chance that he actually does know, and he's, like, putting little subliminals out there. Oh, it's up. That's the worst shit you can do. No, no, no. He's pure. Is there a percentage of a chance that someone told him to say that? I did.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Nah. Jason Lee would avoid that at all cost. He don't want to be in that. That's what he said about DW. He said he's the one who told him to say that when he asked for when we had Napgate going on. Jason Lee said that. No, Wax said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Yeah, I told Jason Lee to say it. Strong narrative. Okay, let's talk about one of our main topics for today. our friend Lefty Gunplay. Which I would like to spend the block when we have more Rasta in the building. We will probably have to bring it back when they get here.
Starting point is 00:57:51 But Lefty Gunplay has been getting a lot of backlash for saying that he will trip out if his daughter brings home a black guy. Now, one interesting thing before we even get into the clip, it's kind of amazing to me to see the extent to which the Rasa strikes fear
Starting point is 00:58:07 in the heart of the Los Angeles street streamers scene because so few people, people seem willing to actually acknowledge that they don't appreciate this mentality. It really lets you know that there's some real fear struck in the heart of men out here. Because this is a statement that on its face is the kind of thing you would expect to hear from a Richard Spencer or a Nick Fuentes. But it's coming from the mouth of the one and only lefty gunplay.
Starting point is 00:58:35 And as a result, a lot of people who I thought were proud of their people and would want to stand up against this kind of thing, they're backing down. saying, hey, he could do whatever he wants, he could say whatever he wants. You can't say nothing about it. Like, hey, that's because this is what you don't understand. That's because the person that's not
Starting point is 00:58:53 responding, it might be reciprocated. So you're saying it might be reciprocated. Indian pun live in fear of their daughters bringing home a Mexican. We don't live in fear. It's just that, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:07 you're taught to keep our bloodline pure. Just like, yeah. It's not, it's honestly like, Okay, but again, what you just said, if I were to say it, would make me equivalent to Nick Flintzis. Yes. That's why I said it to you. That's why I said it for you. I do not agree with that. I'm saying, though, you wouldn't, I wouldn't be mad at you if you said that.
Starting point is 00:59:27 The correlation. I feel like almost everybody else would. They would, but like us being in the streets like, hey, bro, hey, if that's, and grandma and great grandma don't like that shit and we don't like, hey, we've been trained that way. Like, you know what I'm saying? Because you've been indoctrinated by the prison in the same way the lefty has. That's why you're understanding of his mentality. To everybody else, it seems like pretty clear-cut, you know, racism.
Starting point is 00:59:53 It's not racist. I mean, but, shit. Okay, it's a racist that I'm afraid to speak his mind. That's why I like Trump. It's, hey, listen, I ain't fucking with that. I wouldn't call it racist, though, honestly. It's not. It's California.
Starting point is 01:00:04 I got my baby mama Salvadorian, bro. I swear to God, nigga. Like, her dad and her mom are from Salvador. nigga the oldest brother from Salvador bro and like it's just like a it's like it's not like a racist it like is racist but it's not like it's not like personally racist you feel me like
Starting point is 01:00:20 it's like it's just like bro the mom the the mom's cool me but the dad still to this day nigga my daughter's nine nigga her dad does not fuck with me bro like I don't know why he don't live there but he's just weird then the aunties one time see me like it's just like a like it's like it's not
Starting point is 01:00:38 it's not the person what could be more racist. Okay. What could be more racist than saying that your greatest fear is that you don't want your offspring mating with a person of another race. That's how Asians are too. Like Asian people like they stick to Asians.
Starting point is 01:00:54 All you're saying is that yes, there are other people who are racist and that we all think it's not the worst thing on the world. Here's the thing. He hears the thing. Your culture. Like, yeah. So in, as long as we're acknowledging that it's super racist, I guess we're on the same thing.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Hold on. Hold on. inherently the statement that was made is indefensible. But if you had context to it and you actually add the element of everything else that lefty has said, you add the fact that this is a dude
Starting point is 01:01:23 with Draco lyrics tattooed on his face. Yeah, like he's not racist. This is not out of his way to explain why he doesn't say the N word and he's and the main reason why is because because he doesn't want to be a part of some black shit. No, because he doesn't want to offend other people. It's just other people. His people, bro.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Like, bro, you should have seen my granny the first time I brought a white girl to fucking meet her niggins. She's not racist, but she was just like, like tripped out. I've never seen my granny like that, bro. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, being tripped out is understandable. But as soon as you like, do not want this union to take place. Well, that's what you say was. You're racist. She's like, that's okay.
Starting point is 01:01:58 I think there are, there are forms of, but the reason why it's important for us to be honest about this conversation is that clearly there are forms of racism that we think are acceptable. When we look at another country, like Japan, which is like entirely. homogenous. There's barely any outsiders. You know, a parent in Japan doesn't really have to think about what if my kid decides to date somebody of another race. Well, they're nationalistic. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. I just think it's interesting
Starting point is 01:02:19 that there are forms of racism that we all seem like we're okay with, especially when it comes from the mouth of somebody like lefty who we don't really expect woke politics to come out of their mouth. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. I feel like the way he expressed it, it came out wrong because if you a lot, when he like completed his thought and all the ensuing footage that came out as a result. What he basically said was,
Starting point is 01:02:43 this is wrong, I'm trying to improve black and brown relations. And the fact that that's even ingrained in him, who obviously isn't a hateful person, who obviously doesn't have any animosity. Towards blacks. And whose hood never beefed with a black hood. It's just like,
Starting point is 01:02:57 I want to get back to the fear part. But when you say that he wants to stop racism, how do they stop racism in prison? They make it so that there are a very strict, rules about what people within races can do with people from other races. Correct. Once we're on the outside, the mentality is more like, no, everybody should be able to intermingle and be around each other.
Starting point is 01:03:19 And race shouldn't really even be an issue. But in prison, there's like an understanding that race is so important that everybody's actions and where you hang out and who you have lunch with, etc. Should be like almost entirely determined. And lefties spent literally 33% of his life incarcerated. The majority of those during his adult year. So let's just say he spent half of his life. It's basically, if you remove childhood, he spent 50% of years.
Starting point is 01:03:45 But that has nothing to do with it either. Like, all right, that's black and Mexican. Hold on. It's institutionalized. That has a little bit to do with it. I dated a white girl multiple times, a lot of them. You know what I'm saying? You go to their parents.
Starting point is 01:03:57 They'll do the same shit. It's uncomfortable. It's weird, bro. Like a lady had a conversation with me and said so many racist things. Yeah. I had to tell her like, it ain't even your fault. Give me an example. How racist is we talking?
Starting point is 01:04:10 It's in their blood, nigga, like. Because this is the thing. Okay, when I say that I would be totally okay with my daughter bringing home a black guy, that is not me saying I would be totally okay with my daughter bringing home a member
Starting point is 01:04:22 of the role in 60s. I mean, hey, now we're talking about something a little different. He's like, whoa, it's a criminal organization from what I've heard. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:04:32 When you get your rent paid shit, bitch, you're not saying that. But there's a difference, but there's a difference between gang, in a race. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:39 hold on though. I get his point. You talk about to what extent, we went to she feels. He's like, well, why are you guys so lazy and just depending on
Starting point is 01:04:48 government funding? Okay, that's fucking racist. That's un- I almost slapped there. I'm like, that's uneducated, no,
Starting point is 01:04:56 she don't understand why you don't get up and work. We really debated for hours after that, and I had to understand like, fuck, you are paying taxes
Starting point is 01:05:04 for these bitches to sit on their ass, though. You gotta wake up. Like, you got a point, baby. But the point is this. The point is this, that racism is driven, created, and perpetuated by fear. And that fear is due to lack of experience. If you grew up with every single race, you're going to be less inclined to hate or have fear
Starting point is 01:05:28 or have any preconceived notions about these people because you spent time around them. You know what I mean? So a lot of that fear comes from that. And they come from Croatia, too. That's a whole other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're the spicy whites. Yeah. That's whites with cheese.
Starting point is 01:05:43 That's some other shit. American whites already are used to the idea that we're not supposed to be racist. Many international whites don't really have that idea implanted in the brain. She's like second generation American. Like she comes from Croatia, but like the mom is like the second generation. The grandma is kind of the first route of MacLac rock to America. I know. So like like Scandinavia.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Yeah, especially. everything east of that. Yeah. And then like Russia, essentially like that's, you know, there's white supremacists, hate groups and fascists.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Yeah. Like all through there. Like, to the point where, to the point where when we were touring Europe back in the day, man-carriage, man-carriage of syndrome aside.
Starting point is 01:06:22 That's what I was going to go with. We couldn't go to Russia and places like that because they don't, we'd have to have armed guards with AKs and by and blah. Because you are so. No, because. Obviously a minority.
Starting point is 01:06:33 No, no, because the person I rap with was a black person. This is a black. He's this. Like, obviously a minority. So just imagine segue, Kid Inc. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:44 First of all, they don't even let my type into Russia. So my last show was like Iceland or Finland, somewhere Norway right there, right? And I flew home. He flew over to, because you know, Russia's right there. So he flew to Russia. They go. The hype man, him, whatever. They decide to spark a blunt in the room.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Very bossy. Russia? Yeah, poor idea. Yeah, poor idea. Wow. When they come, they're smoking cigarettes, the cover up the smell. That's a cigarette. That shit don't work.
Starting point is 01:07:12 That's a decent. Dude turns around, hits them with the AK. Fucking niggers are too loud in this. The Russian cop says that or what? The Russian cop turns the butt of the gun around, smacks the security guard right in the chest. Boom. Yeah. See, that's why I don't fuck around when I go to Russia.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Russia. Russia, Japan, China, I don't fuck around. Everywhere else, whatever. There's a few countries you just really don't want to play. I don't want to go to Dubai. Yeah, don't play in Dubai. They wash this shit up in Dubai. They just got back from Dubai last night.
Starting point is 01:07:43 He's fucking habit. Yeah, but. I just want people to be ideologically consistent. And so when I see certain streamers and commentators on the culture and when they are so down to give lefty gunplay a pass for these comments, no, myself personally, I don't really have an issue with the comments because I actually think that if people want to stick amongst their own people. There's actually nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Now, when you start, like, kind of forcing that upon your kid, that, I think, starts to become a little bit of a gray area. I would hate the idea of, like, of lefty really raising his kid to think that it would be unacceptable for the kid to ever have feelings. It's passed down, right? Well, beyond that, the issue is that this is a guy that's in hip-hop culture that has a Johnny Dangrail that's, you feel, me, making a living off of black people.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Thank you. I was just saying she's going to grow up. up in date a rapper. Yeah, for sure. Granted, not like that. She's gonna like what her father is. Like, I'm seeing it now with my daughter. So it's like...
Starting point is 01:08:45 It's different if it was a dude that, you know, like, worked at, you know, AutoZone or whatever, like, has opposed to, there's a huge... But would you guys agree with me that if you're okay with lefty gunplay saying it, then you should also be okay with a white guy saying it? No, because it's completely different.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I'm cool with that. But it's not. It's not. It's not. Because it's not all white... It's just different. It's going to get the accent that's attached to it, especially when understanding the politics, someone like you, Adam, that is in tune enough with the politics of the street life.
Starting point is 01:09:18 That's an understandable and regular occurrence as opposed to somebody who has had a narrative that was so fueled by hate and marginalizing minorities and had a agenda that was described as, who was a Catholic nationalism? you know, I believe was the term that Fuentes was using for a while, which is overtly saying that we're not against other race, so we just don't want other races around to the point where Richard Spencer then came on your podcast and went back. He disavowed everything he had previously said. There's a difference of that and somebody that grew up as a minority in a marginalized community came up with a certain ideology
Starting point is 01:10:03 that was formed by their environment. That's all they know. So dumb guy allowed to have that opinion? Smart guy not allowed to have that opinion? It's education. It's education. I see what you're saying. I just feel like that's like the simplified version of what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Is that like if you come from the gang shit, if you come from the streets, then it's cool for you to be, you know, discriminating against other people like that. But if you come from a background where you're, you've been really educated, then it's like you're not really about. But if you watch what left he said afterwards, essentially what he was saying is the fact that I think this is wrong. I want this to change. I'm all for pushing. Like, it didn't bother me at all.
Starting point is 01:10:41 When he said it, I 100% understood what he made. I get you what you mean. It hasn't sounded like a little weird. White people are able to say it too, gang. Okay. All I'm saying is because, listen, they're not about to let you inherit some shit. Listen, if it was in their wheels a long time ago,
Starting point is 01:10:54 they were slave owners and all that shit, and I know I sound ignorant. Hey, I'm not letting these people into my bloodline the inheritance. Nothing. You don't get nothing. I don't like y'all. Like, period.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Like what the fuck? Because you know who would 100% agree with lefty gunplay? And vice versa. Are all the educated-ass black women on Twitter who talk about black men getting a relationship with non-racism. Women as if they've committed a crime against humanity, they clearly would probably see this lefty gunplay thing. And if they had to be ideologically consistent, they would have to agree with it. Even though I don't think they would agree with that. I think they would actually say, look at this racist house Mexican.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Well, they'd be, no, what they would probably say is this is why we need to preserve our culture. This is why we need to. You know, like, it would kind of further justify than believing it. And I definitely appreciate Lefty being honest about it because almost anyone else in his situation would come up with some sort of convoluted bullshit. Yeah, and that's what I was straight up about it. He was just being straightforward about it.
Starting point is 01:11:51 That's it. That's kind of how everybody get down, bro. Like, he's just like, I'm sure you be in public, you be with a white bitch and you see how black chicks be like, looking, they don't like that shit, bro. I'm from the dog give a fuck. But at the end of the day, like, I am strapping up more with the white girls than I am with the blacks.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Fas. Condom wise? Yeah. Wow. You want to make sure you don't have a baby with a white girl? Why? When they get the feeding for the baby, like, it's like,
Starting point is 01:12:16 the white bitch is to be weird. It's not like that. They all want a mixed baby. So they can post her on TikTok, corned on mixed babies, bro. Oh, she looks like for real. I'm black. I'm black.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Yeah, maybe why mixed babies. For sure. Yeah, like a lot of white girls, I know that mixed kids will always post memes that allude to like like like bitch we know what time it is all right you're weird I know a white girl I'm not gonna say her name but I know a white girl that gets mad at fucking other white girls like this is why when I go to Dante's mom's house they don't fucking like me because it's bitches like you they're fucking yeah make it to where
Starting point is 01:12:57 interracial date is almost impossible they're trying to justify that shit to the fullest like you know they're offended like what should mean I can't fucking nigga was. Yeah. Like we love football players. I guess maybe just growing up in the west side and being so diverse and just me messing with like different races my whole life. I never like,
Starting point is 01:13:19 it was never something that was stigmatized. You were from California. I don't know from Long Beach. That shit is, I feel like if anywhere it's the biggest. That's the most racial tension in LA. I think I was the Wilson, nigga.
Starting point is 01:13:28 It was nothing but white people, nigga white girls, bro. It was so like, so, so, like, side topic,
Starting point is 01:13:34 extending from this. I've also seen a narrative put out there that when, okay, there was an episode of where Lefty was with, I think, punting them. And he basically was shouting out a certain Mexican gang. And apparently they are so racist that one of the members of the A's boys
Starting point is 01:13:55 actually left the room. Yeah. Because he took Lefty shouting out this gang. Disrespectful. As being so, like, anti-black. He didn't want to be in the room for it. I didn't know it was like that. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Did Lefty shout out Longos on? He shouted that out? After he said that shit? And I believe no way. Those are two different podcasts. It's kind of crazy though because the niggas really are like super fucking racist, bro, like as fuck. And that's why I agree.
Starting point is 01:14:24 That's why when Lefty said that he said, I feel it because I'm, the one that left is the one from insane, right? Yeah, from Maloney Beach City, the biggest rival. So let's clarify. Let's verify a few things. So the Lefty podcast where he made the comments about not wanting his hypothetical daughter. Oh, this is a different podcast. That's a different podcast.
Starting point is 01:14:43 No, that was Camacopone where he said that, I think, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or I think. The thing I'm talking about the A's Boys or whatever was like months ago, right? I think. I might be mixing up these episodes. He's the king of doing interviews. Nobody has done more interviews than Lefty Gun playing such a short period of time.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Let's just make that clear. Yeah, like, it's racial. I don't even want to say the other name. because he got mad last time somebody made that correlation, so I won't even say the other days. Oh, Kripak, yeah, right. But, but he's the Mexican. He's the other king.
Starting point is 01:15:13 He's not the Mexican Krip-Mex. He is. That's my boy. They do the same burnt-thau shit. Thank you. Hold on. I took so much heat for that. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Free the Mac. So you're saying Krip-Mack wraps as good as lefty. Fuck no. Okay. Crimack is one of the worst rappers of all time. Okay. Let's just make that purpose. Like, Lefty is a legitimate artist.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Kripak could be a good rapper. He would just have to be willing to rap in a style other than the one that comes to his mind when he gets in front of a microphone. I guarantee, even you, if you sat with Kripmack for 45 minutes and wrote a rap with him and told him how to punch in on his bar, could be a hit. If I get AI, I don't think if I could do that. If I get AI, if I could have a banger in 30 minutes, bro. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:57 He can't stop 50 feet of street cars. it's like are you in there having like a attack on the mic like you know what he talks speaking of AI though the sex that we've been having this pride month is nothing short of amazing what okay if you know you know okay I don't know you know you know that is the wild use of AI I'm not gonna lie I'm not I'm not agreeing there are very few things that I like I watched that AI of Mustard Man. How many times? I literally probably watched it like six or seven times yesterday.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Mustard on a beat, the last time that I watched it before I went to bed, I was like rolling around on the couch laughing. Like I was laughing so much harder. It sounds funny. Then I almost ever normally laugh at anything. And I refuse to play it right now because it seems like a bad idea. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:55 I don't know what it is. Well, it's got a mean to DW too. Yeah, and I don't agree with that portion of it either. I have the audio clip. Listen to this. What the hell? Where did she born at? I'm from Long Beach.
Starting point is 01:17:07 The Northside to be a different. Oh, Northside Longo's? Yeah, they are right there. My neighbors are Longos. The Eastside Longos are my boys. You're one of my house right. Free Savage? Free Savage?
Starting point is 01:17:19 That's my dog. He just blew it. They're right next door. He just blew it. Yeah, because, all right, you guys can't see the clip, but like, even pun and start laughing his ass off. start saying that. Yeah, that was the worst
Starting point is 01:17:30 immediately that this is a little bit a weird chat on. That just shows out genuine. Lefty ain't saying that with no hateness. Yeah, he's not saying that with any malice or hate.
Starting point is 01:17:39 I just want to hear the rest of it. Hey, right now, I'm not going to say it. Hey, you know what we're here? No, let's do this.
Starting point is 01:17:47 We're here now. Yeah. He did it on puns podcast. That's crazy. He probably don't know where Trey and they're from. Like that. Everybody in the room
Starting point is 01:17:58 The joke, besides me as an observer. No, that's it. Free J-Boy and Savage. No, that's it. Free J-boy and Savage. What's on my boys? I'm in a set. Shout,
Starting point is 01:18:08 man. Dude, that was an awkward situation. That was right here. This thing is a crash. Thinking Kaz's what? Oh, man. That was, we got into it with Lefty before.
Starting point is 01:18:22 I thought that was the worst pocket. I told you, we got into it with Lefty backstage. He definitely didn't think about that. thinking too much. You don't think of a lot. But you got into it with Lefty about what? Conrad Lefty was about to squabble. I told you that. Yeah? Yeah, Lefty walked all in front of him while he was performing.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Oh. You know that's a stage etiquette like, nigga, you don't come out. If you come out to support you said. He was excited, right? Yeah. But he don't think. You get what I'm saying? Then he's like, oh, man, he tried to never mind. And Conrad like, no, nigga, listen.
Starting point is 01:18:52 You get what I'm saying? Like, I don't want to give up their story. But we got down to it. Was it doing? Was it during vintage and adventurous? Yes. Of course. My guy got excited.
Starting point is 01:19:02 He's where they got to keep a number two. He said, fuck that. That's my anger, right? He was showing love. Yeah, he was. But you can't. Politics. Even if you're, like, especially when you might have a bigger fan base at the time
Starting point is 01:19:20 and you like to take this spotlight off of that's rapping in order. You know what I'm saying? Then he falls into the crap. because he's so low. That'd be like OJ the Juice Man performing like where you been and fucking, uh,
Starting point is 01:19:33 you feel me. Which you performed for him. Which I performed for him. And like nudie gets on stage like you feel me like, but not in front of him though. You stand on the side. Yeah. I didn't know that was a thing.
Starting point is 01:19:43 You support him. You don't stand in front of the stage. But the point is we know lefties heart. Yeah. Yeah. He's pure though. That's what I'm saying. He just doesn't think is what I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:19:54 It's not coming from a place of malice. Out of all podcast. Cassie could have did that I don't know that was probably the number one The Long Beach That was the worst one he could have did it on You still got smoke with him? I never had no smoke with nobody, nigga They moved on to flaco, they left you in fact
Starting point is 01:20:11 That's cool. Bro, the chat tried to start beef. Nicky, you know me, bro, I'm chilling, nigga, but you know? You feel me? They didn't say nothing? I'm not saying nothing. It's the chat trying to fucking stir up a beef, nigga. For what?
Starting point is 01:20:24 Yeah. They want to see niggas crash out. I'm not that nigger. bro. If a nigga got beef with me, I'm not gonna do it on the stream. I'm not gonna do it on the internet, nigga. They ain't never disrespect to me. I ain't never disrespected them. What would I? What would their best? What? Uh, they include them. They all the beef with you on the internet. They're with that. I ain't, they ain't nobody said shit to me. No, I'm just said. No, you did have a little back and forth than at one point. Well, who? They were back and a face, right? No, nigger.
Starting point is 01:20:49 No, I could have swore. They must, they probably some subliminal shit. I don't do subliminal, bro. You would remember way better than I would remember. I'm not the subliminal nigger, bro. I'm not, bro. If it ain't directed, it ain't respected, nigga on my mama, bro. Straight up. Not saying that they,
Starting point is 01:21:04 and they feel the same way. If they wanted to get at me, you feel me? Like, it wouldn't they hit the internet. He's what we call it tuna from around my world. Tuna for real, nigga, I'm serious. Turned up non-affili. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:21:18 I'm just saying, I'm just me. It's on bumblebee. I'm just on bumblebee. That's on chicken to sea. What is that? What is that? I'm the Dan fish. You can to see.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Y'all niggins is funny. I never heard that. I never heard that. No, I know that's the tune. You fucking put two and twos. Yeah. I put two and twos, nigga.
Starting point is 01:21:36 I used to always get the water can, but when I think about it is just because in my head, it's like water sounds like it has less calories than oil. I think it would have like 10 less calories on the can. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:44 When I was fucking 5-12 back in the day, show all bust down a can of tuna. I ain't never heard of it. Crush that shit. Raw. Nothing with it. No eggs?
Starting point is 01:21:53 That's some white people shit. You put eggs with it? That's smart. It tasted disgusting. I was doing it. I didn't give a fuck. Didn't you say that you recently had a new opinion about like, uh... Tuna?
Starting point is 01:22:02 No. Oh, what? About Osempic and, uh, things of that nature. Like, I swear right before the pod, you, you alluded to something that you wanted to talk about on the pod regarding health, body. You said that the Reddit keeps you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You asked, and I appreciate the mental health check in.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Yes. But you asked if I was doing all right. because we did the shirt list episode last week. Yeah. And you were asking if it hurt my feelings that the Reddit was roasting my body. And I said, I feed off that. I actually need that kind of negative reinforcement. Every time I've ever lost a significant amount of weight
Starting point is 01:22:42 or gained a bunch of muscle that got in shape, it was always because I felt like I had some kind of negativity coming towards me. Now, at a certain point in my life, the first time that I got in shape, it was my girlfriend at the time and my mom, making fun of my fat fucking body when I was like 21 or 22 on vacation with my parents and shit
Starting point is 01:22:59 they were making fun of my body they weren't even trying to be mean they were just roasting me and letting me know how fucking fat I looked that really caused me to get in shape so when I was reading the comments saying like oh you look fat or whatever I'm just thinking I'm gonna show you
Starting point is 01:23:12 you fucking wait you watch how hot I'm gonna look and then they also said I should be your personal trainer I don't know if I really see you getting up early enough to do that especially considering I already have a personal trainer I can do prep perks. And he's white.
Starting point is 01:23:25 But you know what? Perks? A personal trainer. He said you missed it. When I'm sitting on the podcast too, I'm sitting down. Almost everybody, even the hottest chick you ever seen in your life. When they're sitting down, when they're like this, like their fucking belly's going to bunch up and look like shit.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Oh, so you're... Go look at the Instagram reel on my story of me hanging out with all those girls at that mansion on Friday. It's like, when I'm just like standing straight up, I look like pretty in shape. Now, granted, I still feel like I have a ways to go. But for sure, like, I'm already cool with how I love. look but like people saying that I look bad in the comments for sure is going to make me skip the handful of crackers at the end of the night which that that's one of my vices I love a cracker
Starting point is 01:24:03 I just think I am a cracker and I love a cracker buff up like start putting the muscle I got to do both I got to eat super clean and I got a lift I've been lifting like a motherfucker I'm doing two hours of workout per day before I even bro you got a bullet bar dip and pushups more weights game I feel like like 2018 22 was low-key like a little bit yacht and shit listen I could tell you the exact dates in my life when I've been No no but that's like for real
Starting point is 01:24:30 I could tell you the exact time period What do we mean? What do we mean? I'm saying like I feel like One mic one mic I could tell you the exact times during my life In which I've been in very good shape I'm not going to do that because it sounds very gay And self-absorbed
Starting point is 01:24:42 But you know It happens He said that you were yaked though That was like a little OD I feel like I feel like I feel me like There are a few photos where I do look kind We can all take some good photos, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I'm just saying. Where's yours? I haven't seen them. Are they in those workout boots? Because that's a porn staple. These aren't workout boots. Oh, for real? I'm ready.
Starting point is 01:25:06 No, some of the greatest scenes of all time are big-ass black dudes wearing nothing but Timberlands. For real? These do look like Tim's, huh? Our good friend Flacco made it clear that that was his favorite genre.
Starting point is 01:25:16 Bro, I'm telling you, when that's 20 versus 1 that we filmed? He said brothers and Tim. When we filmed the 20 versus one, were you around? You heard what Flaco said? Bro. Yeah. He's going to be at the top of the FBI
Starting point is 01:25:30 or the FBI's most wanted list. What's the FBI? They're on his helmet. Foundational Black Americans. Nobody has ever said anything more racist than this on a 20 versus one ever. Flacco, like, and he's going to love every second of the attention. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:45 They are going to murder him. Yeah. It's going to be crazy to sit back and watch the show. I'm for sure going to catch some blowback just for being the person who's helping. put this together. Even though I had no way told him to say
Starting point is 01:25:57 the thing that he said. I know the plug talk staff was particularly disgusted. I think like Lena and the girls who worked for plug talk were just baffled. They really didn't know what to think or say. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:26:09 This is great. Yeah. It might not be up for a couple of weeks. I missed it. My girl asked me, she goes, so is Brick like fucked up on drugs in this clip? I go,
Starting point is 01:26:18 yes. That is exactly why he's talking that way. Yeah. Pride. She's like, that's what this is. I'm like, yes, that is what this is. Brick exhibit is some athleticism, though. Yeah, still.
Starting point is 01:26:30 You picked her up. Yeah, you did the thing. I feel like I want domestic violence to troll on your block for when that episode dropped. Is that bad, huh? Just the way you was rapping. I mean, I had some lyrics, all right? Like, yeah. I had some lyrics.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Did the other one go down yet? They're going to be calling you young Toma. What's the other one? Humatoma. He had a. Yeah, a nice little. Oh, yeah, I still have a... Still a little.
Starting point is 01:26:58 Are you turned on by a woman who could beat the fuck out of you or what? No. There's not a single thing that I find arousing about that. I think it's kind of hot. But the fire in her soul that she's into me that much that elicited that reaction is a bit of a turn on. No, you're right. That is a turn on.
Starting point is 01:27:20 I got to see her on the grill this weekend. You did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, you see, yeah. You guys had a barbecue together, an interracial barbecue without me? I know. Scanliss, right? You feel me?
Starting point is 01:27:30 No, sure he was lefty. Shorty was flipping the carnage asada. I had to get the cheeks from where you feel. Yeah, see, I'm like, I don't want to watch this. I don't want to be objectifying Lush's boo thing or as Hina, as they say. Hey, I'm, I'm pro objectification as long as, you know. You can look, but don't say? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:48 I have no insecurity regarding that whatsoever. You feel me? Maybe you have a little bit of a cuck thing going. I do not have any bit of a cuck thing going. I was thinking, Adam, like, you probably should never wear a chain. You should always wear the chest hairs coming up under the shirt. It's very cocky. Are you going to be there for the skit?
Starting point is 01:28:07 I don't want to reveal too much, but are you going to be there for the skit on Thursday? I think I have to be here. I did so many skits. I'm probably cursed. But this skit is going to really take the cake. He has to be the one black on me. He skit. I'm not going to, like, try to match the outfits.
Starting point is 01:28:22 for the skit. That'd be kind of lit, though. Yeah, I just like, I got to draw the line of like exactly like how true to the original scene I want to make it. And I feel like you guys could just wear your regular clothes. We don't have to try it. We'll make it make sense. We'll be a part of this.
Starting point is 01:28:39 It's a whole thing. We should definitely hit this topic while we're here. And I guess we could hit that Reddit link there. While on the phone with FYBJ Maine, Lil Durk said that no jumper is instigating a lot of the conflicts in Chicago. He didn't actually say anything that specific from what I saw, but Jay Man co-sign, co-sign that statement. Let's play this. Let's peep this audio.
Starting point is 01:29:02 Audio sign. You got to press the audio sign. And niggas aren't got to weed or what? Yeah, I got. We only smoke camels. Go crazy. All right, here we go. Right there.
Starting point is 01:29:14 That's crazy. Now, look, when you... No, let's start, though. We all need each other. Let's just start there. Like, that's why... And they, Jay Main, man, stop going on that. Like, man, shit.
Starting point is 01:29:37 So the quote there was, you got dudes like Adam in the way. So I guess the statement that's being made there is that I am in some way responsible for what's been going on in Chicago over even the last year or that I'm kind of helping to control the narrative. This is rich coming from someone like Dirk who obviously is one of the most popular rappers and throughout his career has had some of the, the most over-the-top disc songs in Chicago rap history. I feel like, if anything, the narrative that we've put forth, and I'm working on a compilation
Starting point is 01:30:19 that will compile all of the times on the podcast in which I was really pushing people to lay down their guns and promoting peace. Now, granted, yes, we discuss the history of a lot of these beefs and everything, but the idea that I'm in any way pushing narratives that contribute to the violence when we're talking about someone who,
Starting point is 01:30:39 I don't think almost anybody besides Dirk, maybe Vaughn, you could throw him in it. I don't think almost anyone has had more of an impact in terms of pushing gang warfare stemming from music than Little Dirk. So to me, that is kind of a baffling statement. Jay Maine said, let's start there. We didn't really get to hear Dirk follow up on it.
Starting point is 01:30:58 And even when I was watching academics react to this clip, academics said, why did he put this clip out? Because when you hear Dirk say something like that about me, that kind of seems like the type of commentary that Dirk maybe would not have wanted to put out there. Not that he's like afraid of me or anything, but he might not necessarily have wanted him being quoted as saying that I was a part of pushing these narratives and stuff. So to me it's a little baffling to see that, especially when I think about the other interviewers in Chicago who primarily do interviews,
Starting point is 01:31:31 it's not like they're pushing some kumbay-ush. Well, this is essentially the same thing. that they were saying about academics during the war in Shirek. Right. It's much easier to put it on the media figure who's talking about the killing and the violence than to put it on the people who are actually perpetrating the violence. Yeah. Or the people rapping about it, especially when you consider that like a big no-jumper interview
Starting point is 01:31:55 is probably going to get like, what, like a million views, a couple million views at most, like with one of these Chicago guys. Whereas like, you know, Derek literally has, you know, diss songs towards other gang members to have like a hundred million views on YouTube alone. Which, to be fair, he's kind of dialed back on over the years. And I've even been quoted on here as saying that I think that Dirk's next record, even before he made this statement, that I think that Dirk is,
Starting point is 01:32:20 his next record is probably going to be free of the gang this is because they've really, like, they've really been less on his latter projects. It seems like there's less of that intense sort of like, you know, anger. He's not still making L's Anthem type records. You know what I mean? He has made songs that, you know, insult people and that are, you know, getting into the mix and everything, but not, not to that. Not quite the way that he used to.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Yeah. Right. Yeah. I feel like, uh, what was the purpose of the conversation? Like, what were, what, what were you guys even talking about what was going on and to where it comes to Adam being in the way? Are you guys trying to start your own Koon by eye platform? Because I could tell you now that shit's going to do zero views. Well, because, no, I'm just, well, you think Dirk and Jay Main are going to start a cool?
Starting point is 01:33:05 by a platform is going to do zero views. I think it'll do great. In the way, no, not if they talk about, hey, brother, let's hug each other. That shit's going to be dope for the first two episodes. Like, what the fuck? I mean, Dirk talking about anything? That's not what a nigga signed number four.
Starting point is 01:33:19 That's not why I'm here, bro. This is one other thing I want to say about it is that I feel like, he said that. Yeah. I feel like, yeah. I can say it. That's my bro. When I listen to that,
Starting point is 01:33:32 when I listen to what Dirk had to say about that situation, I actually felt like, oh, he's really tuned in because it felt like he was talking about the situation where me and Remo had Jay Main on maybe almost a year ago and we told him that it doesn't really make a lot of sense. It's not ideologically consistent for him to be pushing peace partnered up with Tay Savage when at that time, Tay Savage's new mixtape had just come out in the first song
Starting point is 01:33:58 and it was called Goofy. And in that song, he's naming off a whole bunch of dead ops that he's smoking on on the first song on the album. You don't have to dig too deep into the album to find him shitting on a bunch of dead ops. But they already did. But I feel like Dirk was kind of alluding to that, which it is, it's mixing all of a sudden, because what is his relationship with Tays Savage? We don't know exactly how hard they fuck with each other and everything.
Starting point is 01:34:20 Obviously, there's the Muslim connection. But when I heard Dirk say that, I felt like he was sort of doing a callback to the No Jumper episode in which we confronted J-Man with the reality of the fact that it is ideologically inconsistent to do the push and the peace movement with Tate Savage. when Tay Savage is literally rapping about people that he doesn't fuck with over some street shit. I think also it could be that or it could be that in a combination of the fact of merely certain individuals being platformed that are talking the shit they're talking. He's trying to get views.
Starting point is 01:34:51 He's pushing piece. But when he wraps, he has to go with the fucking shotgun shotgun-shack drill shit. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I mean, like I said, kumbaya, dirt in who the fuck ever, will be at a million views to 500,000 to 50,000 views of episodes. My thing, though, is that if we are going to push for peace at some point, at least one person, and then hopefully others after them are going to have to lay down their weapon. And I think Jay Main has done an admirable job of that because when Jay Main decided
Starting point is 01:35:23 he was going to start pushing peace, he did not do so from a position of power. This conversation is easy for Derek to have. They're viewed as the victors in this whole saga. Okay, nobody, you're pushing people. because your feet are up. Y'all all push your piece because your feet are up. You are no longer in the battlefield no more. You can't push peace, my nigga.
Starting point is 01:35:42 You can't none of y'all push peace. What happens is if y'all got control of them little niggas, y'all set the standard for the peace. The first nigga that break it, y'all killed because. And set an example over the nigga that don't want peace. And you get them up out of here. All that other shit, I don't want to hear it. We didn't been through a million peace treaties.
Starting point is 01:35:59 And as soon as one start killing, they all follow behind them again. So it's like, y'all don't want peace. I just wanted to cool down for a second. You want this. Every time a motherfucker, fuck up, spake his feet. Don't, it ain't no,
Starting point is 01:36:11 no DP. You know, ass getting killed, nigg. And the next, and people coming back over hill to kill you. If it was treated that serious,
Starting point is 01:36:20 now you're talking about a situation that I think would actually change shit. Yeah. I don't know, like when I hear this phone call, I do think that this could have a positive impact on people, but I do feel like, you know,
Starting point is 01:36:31 until it's proven to us that this is a long, long-term sustained effort and that people are really willing to work together, it's kind of up in the air about how much of an impact it's going to have. I already seen at least two to three Chicago drill rapper slash gang members who got killed since this phone conversation came out a couple days ago. That's what I'm about to say. You got niggins snort and fitting all off the plate and all that. Like, listen, it's still going on. And these little dudes is so many different subset. Who gives the fuck about GD and BD? That's fucking getting along. Like, all right, you guys barely beef.
Starting point is 01:37:04 That's one part of the puzzle. You gotta stop all these fucking side clicks that's out here. These little niggas don't care. But they can't take credit for, or they can't take that responsibility upon themselves. They can only worry about their shit.
Starting point is 01:37:16 And keep in mind, J-Main is technically a B-D. Yeah, I know, but he is integrated. He's like the, what's my G-D dude name that's with Dirk?
Starting point is 01:37:27 I forget. You know, I'm talking. Shit, but even Dirk's dad was a G-D. Yeah, so listen, G-D. GD is like the main set, BD is a subset of them. Right. But this is where Chicago fails. We're not letting nobody else start no hood in our hood.
Starting point is 01:37:45 Nigger, you're going to be from the set. All them clicks that we started, you know how they ended? Because, nigga, the homies got up on it's like, nigga, y'all going to be from the hood. Ain't no more of the hoods over here. So now you're gaining all the, like, you're able to take over and give your structure to the kids that's in the neighborhood. And they didn't have enough.
Starting point is 01:38:02 They ain't got enough OGs. That was like... Exactly. Like, motherfuckers don't make it past 23 out there. If motherfuckers are really pushing an agenda for a piece like that, then how come the next rapper you're going to put on is not going to be common or Lupe Fiasco or Chance the rapper? It's not going to be one of these...
Starting point is 01:38:23 I think we have to keep the door open for Dirk actually really doing a serious pivot in terms of like what he wants to do with his artistry and his music career and everything because yeah obviously it's easy to say like oh well you signed muwop a couple years ago and how's he going to feel about this and everything like that like if people are really going to take sustained efforts towards pushing peace they're going to have to like basically be willing to take the l publicly be on divergent terms with certain people from their area and shit like that like this whole process if they are serious about it is not going to be simple or easy you got to break some eggs to make an omel who was it that just did a no jumper interview that recently said um i believe it was a no
Starting point is 01:39:02 jumper interview that recently said that if duck was alive he would not be with the pushing piece movement uh well we had that conversation with jane because ain't glisi on say cheese was basically like pushing the narrative on jane of when when when when the when doug died their side picked up switches and your side picked up logging equipment and and jane really took offense to that i think jane should have said cool yes whatever i'm willing to let go of of past you know, things that I felt like I needed to get revenge for. I don't want to have that mentality. It's got, like, if we're really going to have, like, people decide that killing isn't
Starting point is 01:39:40 cool anymore, it's going to take people saying, okay, maybe we are not perceived as being up on the scoreboard, but we're going to still take real active steps to be not involved in us. Intellectually, what you said is one, that one million percent correct. But when you take into account the fact that these are people that lost their loved ones and all that, it makes it a little bit more difficult. you know what I mean to actually
Starting point is 01:40:03 go through with that and you know it's easy for yeah like you said it's easy for people who are in a position of power it's easy for me to say you guys need to lay your shit down and push peace but it's it's different when you're coming from their
Starting point is 01:40:17 perspective but I do think it's honorable just got chipped and your homeboy just got chipped my whole thing is you know what I'm saying Martin Luther King got killed my uncle Max got killed the motherfucker who cared so much and always want to peace
Starting point is 01:40:31 it's all well Malcolm X not too much with the peace but it's like the person who gets involved and stands in the middle something always happens to him you've got to put demonstrations down in order for peace to come about
Starting point is 01:40:48 I heard a quote the other day that said the culture that we live in today would never have allowed Malcolm Little to become Malcolm X we're so critical of everybody everybody who wants to do something positive, we just immediately start inspecting and put them under the microscope and we want to judge every single thing that they do.
Starting point is 01:41:07 So I want to leave the door open for somebody like Derek who granted, like a lot of his lyrics have contributed to tension in Chicago. If he decides that he wants to leave that ship behind and we think that he's sincere, I think that we should give his shot, right? Yeah, no, I'm with it. But I'm just telling a motherfucker what was the angle of the conversation? That's where we started. Yeah, there's no context.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Yeah, where did y'all get to Adam being in the way? Because in a way... To be fair, he just kind of like briefly mentions that about me. I don't know like what he would have said if Jay Main kind of like pride into that a little bit more. But one other thing, I encourage people... Like, Jay May seemed a little starstruck in this conversation. He was.
Starting point is 01:41:48 He doesn't say almost anything in the conversation. Let's start there. Do I have to go there? He says his catchphrases about like 15 times each, but he doesn't really like get into too much of an actual conversation. He kind of like, let's Dirk do his thing. And he doesn't really seem like he had even thought about what he might say.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Because if Dirk was so anti, or so pro-Adam being in the way and anti-no-jumper, why the fuck are y'all best friends always coming through the back door? Yeah. Right. I think he's using Adam as a blanket statement. No, DJU, say DJU.
Starting point is 01:42:25 But he says in the phone call. He says in the phone call, basically, that he's going to fuck with D.J.U. but my question would just be like what's the difference between the content of DJU's average interview and mine? I feel like we're asking extremely similar questions. And if anything,
Starting point is 01:42:40 he knows way more about exactly what's going on with the politics. I think that shit on average, like a lot of the questions, and that's why I'll click on a DJU or a 16 shot of interview, I think that they're more likely to like understand what's going on in the streets than my show. RIP to Zach, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:42:55 Legend, you feel me, set the precedence, the original Shyrak media like homegrown. he was definitely very like he presented all politics and beefs and everything showcased what was going on because the truth is is that if you don't do that shit if you don't do that shit you are going to quickly figure out that the people are going to gravitate towards people who are willing to ask the tough questions and be willing to speak to people who maybe are not the most well-liked you know it would have been fairly simple for us to like stay on dirk's good side by not interviewing people that have anything negative to say about
Starting point is 01:43:30 I understand he wasn't happy about the Poole of the Flair interview. From our perspective, we're not trying to, like, you know, make people happy. We're trying to do interviews with people that actually have a story to tell. And there are, look, there's Siltsky, there's Vonnevsky. There's fools that are making noise. But right now, in Chicago, all the gang violence is overshadowing. There's no superstar artist right now currently like there was before. So it was different when there's all that negativity.
Starting point is 01:43:57 But you had Chief Keith, you had Reese, you had all these, fool's, you know, jerk blowing up. And it seems like at this point, people are more interested in the, the fuck shit than there are the music. My response to Poodle of the flare is this. Because you know, I've been knowing Pudis since he was walking, right?
Starting point is 01:44:13 So he was one of them people's on them Z Money days. He was down there with us in Austin. Yeah, because we never really got the full story about why you're hunting down Z money. Don't boy imagine. We're going to talk about that next Tuesday because I don't want to, you know, ruffle the wrong feathers with that.
Starting point is 01:44:29 That was surprising to hear. Because I know they pieced up probably. I think they're cool now. So I don't want to, like, spark up some shit the world don't know about. But Pouda, you got to understand that this man is in an active war. No matter where he's at, he's a national. Him with you and little Vernie, because little Vernie's also in a wheelchair, you hit the little V?
Starting point is 01:44:50 It's a little V. The other black was just making jokes about him. So I've been knowing he wouldn't have did that shit while Vernie was on his feet, period. That's who took me to the O block for the first time. Like little Vernie and him, like you can't really expect the motherfucker to take you on the road on tour and all of this when they have to, their first thing when gunshots go off is to protect you. They cannot leave their paralyzed homeboy that's been injured in the field. Right. So at the end of the day, you got to take away some feeling with that.
Starting point is 01:45:22 He turned up, he was on the road probably 250 days out of the year. You got 100 days at home. You get what I'm trying to say? Like, you can't involve. off yourself. And I'm not saying your condition is not a reason. And then it's like, okay, if you haven't found your way to implement yourself
Starting point is 01:45:38 in the program outside of rapping and all of that, I've yet to see one paraplegic rapper make it too far. And I'm not trying to be mean. I'm not trying to like at that point with your condition and you still pushing your rap career, you should have got more
Starting point is 01:45:54 involved with the merch, the signing of an artist. Besides Stephen Hawkins, right? And being, I'm just saying, I'm not trying to Like, that's my little, bro. You know, he still called me shitty to this day. I went to go meet up with him while he was here. But you can't be, you can't let that go into your feelings when you're not weighing out both sides.
Starting point is 01:46:11 You get what I'm saying? Yeah, my thoughts on that was that on one hand, like Pouda being so aggrieved about the way he was treated by Dirk seems, it's kind of hard for me to judge because a lot of people in a similar situation. Let's say I ended up going on tour with some rapper for the next year. and then at some point he decides that he doesn't want to take me on tour anymore. It's like a lot of people, a lot of rappers,
Starting point is 01:46:35 would play that as just being thankful for the time that this person took you around the world. And they would be understanding about the fact that not everything is going to last forever. Like, you know, 600 Breezy could be complaining about Drake not taking him on tour anymore all the time if he wanted to, right? But instead, he's when you ask him in an interview about what happened with you and Drake, he's like, yeah, that's still my boy, it's still cool. We can still do stuff, whatever, you know. but like, I feel like,
Starting point is 01:46:59 but Puda seems like he took it a lot more personal than that. And I don't necessarily know if that's because there was additional layers of disrespect that maybe aren't being communicated or if maybe he's just a little bit ingratful for that experience. And I understand that that's probably like tied in with the fact that he's not so happy about the fact that him not going on towards seems like it was associated with him ended up in the wheelchair.
Starting point is 01:47:22 I don't really know. But either way, I mean, somebody like him, if he feels like that about Dirk, He's an interesting character in Chicago history. I'm perfectly happy to have the conversation knowing it's not necessarily going to put us in good favor. That is going to definitely affect your career trajectory negatively regardless if you want, like, admitted or not.
Starting point is 01:47:41 Let's say your professional athlete is something like that happens to you. Like, whatever. You're still going to be the starting fucking inside linebacker for the Chicago Bears? No. Life throws curveballs at you, man. It's just all about how you deal with it. like you could have been the head of OTF gaming or something else. Like take your talents and move them around.
Starting point is 01:48:02 But we don't know if the door was open for him to necessarily do shit like that. The door would, I, Pouda, to my knowledge, when I came home, Pouda was still in the mix. You know what I'm saying? If I'm not mistaken, I did see him in Atlanta. So it goes all the way up into the move to Atlanta. So I don't know. Like, if a motherfucker, like, they get it. financial advisors that tell them
Starting point is 01:48:27 that you're not supposed to be paying everybody's rent. You got a lot of man fend for itself. It's other people. When you start getting money, it's other people in that ear. They got accountants and shit like that ain't too smart right there. Beyond that, like, and on the other side of the coin,
Starting point is 01:48:41 if you're an artist and you don't really have the highest degree of life experience or emotional intelligence and all of a sudden you're on tour or in the entourage or amongst one of the biggest artists in the game and that gets stripped from you, you might not be able to have the mental faculties
Starting point is 01:48:58 to really comprehend and overstand what's going on and it might feel like rejection, even though that's not what it is. It's a business move. And then name one hit, pull to the flare song. There you go. Like, if you gave them something to work with too,
Starting point is 01:49:12 it'll be different. That's all it is. It's like, come on, at the end of the day, you know, you got to just, you know. And then there's all those people that wound up being featured on a huge record that just because they were around, or because they're a part of that entourage.
Starting point is 01:49:27 We don't remember their name. We barely even remember their verse. But you also got to give Puta some credit for being willing to, like, leave his truth and say exactly how it feels. Because there's been other people I've had conversations with who, you know, maybe we're with Dirk at a certain point, and now it feels like they're kind of on the outs. But they still keep it very clean when they're on a podcast because they don't want
Starting point is 01:49:48 to necessarily close the door. They are thankful for what might have happened before. But, I mean, that's also just keeping shit cool in general, like in terms of like you know if you were to leave no jumper and we were still on good terms it's like there's a way you talk about it if you want to play the the victim narrative and then there's a way you talk about it if you want to just keep it solid you know it's like two different ways to handle it and one is advantageous to you in the sense that it leaves the door open to still fuck with no jumper and the other side is like it's advantageous because you know that some percentage of people
Starting point is 01:50:18 are going to latch on to you being against these people yeah yeah yeah yeah because you can get on the fuck no jumper side you're like you're so you're and you get your views, but you have to keep all reacting to no jumper in order to keep up. And then you might not... We've seen this. And then you might not realize
Starting point is 01:50:33 and you might not realize the negative impact of you potentially doing that. You might be like, oh, well, me and Dirk can squash it later. But what you're not thinking of is he might not ever want to fuck with you again. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:50:44 You might have just played yourself out completely. But see, Dirk, one of the people that won't call you for a minute, ain't no love lost though. Yeah. That's what I can say. Like, just because you don't hear from Derek all the time does not mean
Starting point is 01:50:56 that he feels anything separate from how he felt about you before. But there's so many people that want to fuck with him that I'm sure he would love to give opportunities to if one of them winds up going on a rant or like putting like sowing seeds of discontent and going against him.
Starting point is 01:51:12 He might not be so inclined to want to spend the block and keep that same energy next time you see you. It might not be the same love if you wind up in the interim doing some shit where you're talking negatively about him. You feel me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:26 That's a fact. Hey, I'm going to go take a piss, and then we are going to do a swap out here where we're going to bring compa. Oh, I guess they're here right now. So, yeah, just, let's fire up another mic. I do believe Bell is going to be exiting the presence at a certain point here. As we bring in these guys, I'm going to take a piss. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:51:43 Veil. Thank you so much, Val. We don't need your services. Everybody follow vell. Vell. Dot BMX on Instagram. My man is living a crazy life day to day. He's doing construction by day, and he's doing.
Starting point is 01:51:54 orange chicken by night shout out to vell i'll be right back he's selling chickens at night jee what's the chickens go for 30 30 you feel me okay all right this is about to be some shit so what we're about to do right here i'm gonna say yo juice man god damn it on that shit come on booming up the same working with yeah i did
Starting point is 01:52:22 so they'll be burning I want to I want a chichi button This is about to be I can't believe this is about to have it Hey hey yo keep it real Keep it real, fool I didn't tell you that was my friend
Starting point is 01:52:41 After rip though Oh shut the fuck up Shut the fuck up We are out there Yeah Yeah yeah Yeah yeah Yeah
Starting point is 01:52:48 Yeah I didn't I never chose a side Because I told you That's your business You're my boy But I found out The crazy part is the only reason
Starting point is 01:53:00 I found out about you through When y'all was doing it It's not good to choose sides And beef with homies Because when they wind up squashing it Then Yeah, exactly There are the people that chose
Starting point is 01:53:10 Size and the beef Yeah, you're the outside Yeah, you're the outside It's like when the girl Yeah But choosing is for bitches though It's what I try to say Unless this show
Starting point is 01:53:19 Every day Sandbox It go without being said Like, hey, I'll be with Cuzz every day You have me? You know which way Hey, Kopa, what time is it, bro?
Starting point is 01:53:28 Hey, big, big, great. What time is it for? What time is it? No, no, no, no, no, no bills. Remember you're asking about that? Bang there. Oh, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Oh, no, they said it was a skeleton, no. They did. They said it was a skeleton. The skeleton. No, I don't know. They said it was a skelly. They said it was a skelly. I make it and grew an eggering shit.
Starting point is 01:53:52 That's how good. Hey, good. My dick, oh, skis-whis-ki. Hey. It's going. Hey, Big Rick. The motherfucking Jays is crazy, too. Yeah, Big Rick.
Starting point is 01:54:09 Rick. Rick. Rick. You heard me? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. You heard me? If Jay's crazy, Big Rick. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up. Brother. Come to the arrow pushing. I'll show you what's pushing. You know what I'm saying? You believe that's it. Oh, that's it.
Starting point is 01:54:48 What are you guys talking about him? I'm lost. Let's talk about it. How do you guys put that? The reason will go. Like I keep that OTR. I told him changing captions. What facts?
Starting point is 01:54:59 I didn't get kicked out. Let's talk about it. That wasn't in that part. He was in that shit too. I know. I know. We don't have a word after. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:05 Don't have a word right here. Oh, yeah. Yeah, right here. Talk about it. Yeah, right here. Lush, you fucked up, Lush? I, I, I, I, you lied to that.
Starting point is 01:55:12 I'm a little bit lost on what's going on right now. But what happened? It's going to get good. Oh, yeah. We started off. We started off with some little bit of spice for some saracha. I heard what Adam said and about the bender excuse. Look, from now on, look, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm going to say it off record.
Starting point is 01:55:35 Preemptively nip. I'm never going to say I'm on the bender because I'm a bender gun and I'm always on a bender. But so now that's it. That's like, I'm not going to use it an excuse. And that was my point to you initially. Like, we're used to this. We live this. This is both been getting faded for decades.
Starting point is 01:55:51 You can't use a bender as any type of, you know, like. You knew to this. We're true to this. Thank you. Since before the uterus, since the nucleus. I'm a bender all the time. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but a different kind of bender.
Starting point is 01:56:03 I'm on a cender, car. No, that's not an extended. You're on a rear end. He's getting out. He's on a different. It's a different level. Now, I, boo. me up when I smoke them.
Starting point is 01:56:16 Oh, whoa. Oh, what we're talking about? Spinning the pipe? You look in a little, you look a little different. Hey, they love what I talk to you. You look like the cheeks are filled out a little bit more. Yo. Pause.
Starting point is 01:56:31 What the fuck? His face. He called him fat. He said you look back. So I landed the plane. I crashed the plane. Lion-ass nigg. How many hours ago?
Starting point is 01:56:41 It's a new. Oh, no. But out of respect. Alcohol makes you fat. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. That's the best way. I don't know about the cheeks and all that.
Starting point is 01:56:52 That was crazy. I'm talking about his face. I know. You can't talk about facial structure. You are Adam. The cheeks are filling out. Everybody already thinks you're gay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:57:02 But I will say there is such a thing as over-posing a podcast. And I feel like if I can't tell him that his cheeks are looking full without having to have a 10-minute conversation about whether I sound gay or not. Are you hitting yubby? We've kind of reached the point in which the conversation, to me, that's a little...
Starting point is 01:57:20 No, no, no, cheeks. You know, like, what are we really doing here? Do I look cuter like this? See, again, you're making it gay now. You seem like you really want it to be gay. Bro, like, like New Yorkers? Says the guy that takes pictures with a foos and thongs. See?
Starting point is 01:57:35 Yeah, it's like, you know, call back to like something from a long time. Any legs. Can I be part of the Thursday skit? My point is that you're over gang. Not that you need to make it more gay. He lets cock suckers in the building, too. That's a big ass. This is somebody who keeps the cock in their mouth. That's a Jason Love, I've ever seen one.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Every time that he loads up, he's sparking the cop. That's a VL BMX. That's like as phallic as you can possibly be. He's a fell boxing. That's a dick. Straight up. That's a dick, 600. Okay, I'm getting a little iffy.
Starting point is 01:58:07 What? What's the iffy part? Too much gay talk? No. Well, I want Swifty to Yeah, that's what I say. Like, it's kind of like,
Starting point is 01:58:15 Whoa, boy. He's determined to go communicate with his dude out there for some reason. Yeah, so we're kind of, we can't get fully into the fuck shit. Yeah, we can't. With that being said,
Starting point is 01:58:26 let me go see if you.

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