No Jumper - The NJ Show #264: Adam Dissed His Opps, Top West Coast Rappers Debate

Episode Date: August 15, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Hey, man, we live. Can you please give us, you know, like a five-bar intro like you always do, man? A five-bar intro? I said two bars. No, I can do five bars. Five-bars, yeah. Yeah, but come on, man, a five-bar intro, man. You feel me, like three chicks in the back of my white van, and you heard they moaning.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Nah. This is the best way you could turn up on a Thursday morning. It's the no-jumper show live and directs. but it wouldn't be right if Sharp didn't pin pose, and it really wouldn't be right if we didn't get a Josh intro. So set it off, Josh. Come on, man. Quit playing with us.
Starting point is 00:00:44 He don't have a mic. Josh don't have a mic. Josh didn't have a mic. No jumper, man. Like, we do him so good. It wouldn't be right if we ain't have Votto. Oh, come on, man. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Come on, man. Long Island is in the house. She is. Long Island is in the house, man. You feel me? Come on. Shops of LA. Y'all.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I really, I do want to say that I really appreciate you guys. Yeah, man. Bro, like, since I was like a kid, bro, just growing up, like dreaming of this opportunity, bro. And just watching you guys, bro, like, on the couch and everything, bro, like, it's just dead-ass crazy right now. So I really appreciate you guys. If I'm stopped smiling, I'm sorry. It's just so surreal to me. It's full of handsome, man.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Come on. Exactly, exactly. Flacco's bawling now. He got the expensive cologne. My boys dripped in time forward. Come on, man. He had a couple shots out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:33 So a lot of them probably know you on the face because you went viral recently for punching a man during a podcast during a heat of discussion. So, wait, so I think like academics like had the funniest title. Shut up to academics. So academics, like title was he ended the four-year streak. Right? Right? because I think Coco said
Starting point is 00:02:02 I've been dissing all of New York for four years I've been doing this shit for four years y'all and nobody touched me yet you feel me so and when you say dissing New York you're specifically speaking of like
Starting point is 00:02:14 the rappers on the drill scene and things like that or are you more talking about just the no no not him yeah yeah yeah yeah no not him I'm talking about yeah he's more talking about like everybody in the New York culture
Starting point is 00:02:26 because from what I've been told he's from Brentwood, Long Island. So he's more talking about, you know, the people from Long Island. And, you know, he has connections than New York City and shit. So he's probably talking about that, but that shit don't fly with me. No, you're not jacking that.
Starting point is 00:02:41 You met the right. You met the right. You met the right one that day. Yeah, he met the right. Hey, hey, I'm not going to lie to you. Like, I'm high key, like, fake, not jacking that son. Like, you feel me what he did? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yo, I don't even check what I really did because, you know, I have a platform and, you know, I want to work with different people. I want to be on no jumper a lot. I want to be on academics, DJ Vlad. I want to get contracts in the music industry. I want to be looked at as a liability. But for you to tell another man to suck my dick on camera and somebody's going to die, I feel like you're more like compromising my character and everything. So it's kind of like all bets is off the table. Especially like in New York, there's definitely a much strong.
Starting point is 00:03:28 now we've now traversed the water of cuss words so we can now return to it if possible I'm just saying what I'm just saying in the fuck Alex man
Starting point is 00:03:43 I'm like like like a headphone all fuck now right so no what I was about to insinuate is that in New York in the general
Starting point is 00:03:54 trisade area in like inviting another man to your Johnson is far more disrespectful than it is in California. I want to ask something because that's why I want to ask you to. Not that we jack that activity. No, I, no,
Starting point is 00:04:10 so I don't know how that context is taken in Cali. So I know your thing with 16 and everything. When you say it in Cali, is it to the extreme in New York? Because in New York, you could die over those words. No, it's worse in New York. 1,000 percent. Like, that's
Starting point is 00:04:26 equivalent. Like, put it like this. if someone called you a weirdo in New York, you might not die over it. In L.A., there's a much greater chance. If someone calls you a weirdo, that's like the same thing. That's equivalent to Chicago being called a goofy. You could call someone goofy in New York. It's nothing crazy, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:44 In fact, I would say that Chicago's more liberal with the word goofy than L.A. is weirdo. That's like reserved for show. Yeah, I've been calling mad people. weird this trip, but they wasn't like it, so I ain't know, so. Because, but then they hear you, they hear your accent. They know you don't mean it in the same way.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of weird, son. You know what I mean? Oh, hood. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you add it on hood after weird. Yo, weird, fun facts. Yo, shout to the bro, Sapp.
Starting point is 00:05:16 So, fun facts, right? So, Sam is right there. Is it? That's not sad from out here, Sam, is it? Nah, he everywhere, though. 631, sad. Okay, yeah. So, um, now some guy on,
Starting point is 00:05:27 I don't even know how, bro, this is my first time on this shit. I don't even know how to set this shit up. No, you don't have to. Going viral, some girls seen I was out here and everything. And she was going to link up with me, but then her boyfriend kind of took her phone. And once I heard the, on hood, stop hitting my bitch up. I'm like, yeah, he ain't playing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Hey, man. I've been hearing Bradbury saying that. Well, he said, he says on her, but he also says something else, right? What else are he saying? I can't say it, right? I'm not allowed to say it. Can you, like, insinuate it, or can we, like, charade the C-word out? Uh, yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:06:06 Cynary, like, look, look, on... Sounds like, right? Look, on this. Right? Right, right, for me? You can say on... No, okay, cool, to say. On crepe, on blood.
Starting point is 00:06:23 No, on the actual name of the game. On... Six-up. On 6-0. That's what he'd be saying. Yeah. That's what he'd be saying. Wait.
Starting point is 00:06:31 How come the white men did they get passes to say? I'm not, I'm a white man with the fuck fool. You are white. Josh's white too. Josh is white. Yeah. I don't think because they mean it in the context. She share very similar DNA.
Starting point is 00:06:46 No. You got some nigger in you. Wait, so let me. Pause. Do you care? Yes, absolutely. You care? Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Don't look at me like I'm about to say it to you. Like, you like, you want me. My wife friend. He's like, he's a guy there. Do you see that? He's like, Now look. Now listen.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah. That's true. We're not, is that me? Yeah. No, no, no. Look, my wife friend who is there to me won't say it in front of me, right?
Starting point is 00:07:20 Because they know if I mean, that's not cool. But however, if my wife friend, you know, is in other companies, you know, and there's You know, now I see that Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:07:29 yeah, yeah, that I've uttered that word before in front of you feel like yet. But that's,
Starting point is 00:07:35 and I'm pretty sure you're aware that I've never said it with hateful intention towards, that's what I personally don't care,
Starting point is 00:07:43 but if we're around other company, don't stay around people that don't know you because type shit, yeah. Which, like,
Starting point is 00:07:48 I'm like, you know, you guys, I know you guys on the West Coast. You guys know style of speed, right?
Starting point is 00:07:55 I, I feel very disrespectful right now. The ghost? The ghost? But he doesn't care. Like he said, he doesn't care if his white friend said the nigger words, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:06 as he's singing his lyrics and shit. So, to me, it all depends, you know, how the context he used behind it. So let's like, elaborate on that point right there.
Starting point is 00:08:15 So Stiles P, he's probably, if I were to guess. All-time favorite rapper. Yeah, one of the greatest of all time. We're not going to, like, even begin to,
Starting point is 00:08:22 come on. Come on. See, here, right? So look, so he's, part of like the fake goat discussion, right? And here's what I mean, right?
Starting point is 00:08:29 Whoa. Fake? Not look, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna let you cook. I'm gonna let you cook. Is he one of those dudes, like, for example, like the Stals P and Jada kiss, right? where people will say, oh, they're in my top five. But if you rarely ask them for their top five,
Starting point is 00:08:43 they're nowhere near their top five, right? Jada kiss is in there. No, no, no, no, no, bro. You're bugging. Like near, near, like, a top five. It's a fake goat. It's a fake goat. Yeah, you're a buggy.
Starting point is 00:08:56 You're going to say Jay-Z. You're going to say Jay-Z. So, Pock, Jay-Z, Biggie, Naz, Kendrick, Eminem, like, no way, it's over them? So a couple things. Dan, that's not said. So first of all, I'm going to point to a couple things, right? Now, first of all, yes, I agree with you. Jadikis is a fake goat.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Fake goat is a huge compliment. Of course. Because hip-hop culture is so expansive and to even be in the quote-unquote goat conversation. That's a fact. That you have to be on. But he's not in a conversation, though. He's part of the fake gulf, meaning the niggas just lie. No, no.
Starting point is 00:09:28 When it comes to bar for bar, 16 for 16 versus wise, when Jada makes the claim, like he did on his, like, I think, 2017 album or around that time, when he said top five DLA, whatever you can be doing. That conversation has been there since, like, 2003. Bar for bar, yes, absolutely. He's 1,000. There's never been a real conversation with Jada kids being top five rappers. while time. No, no, no, no. When it comes to, like, bars, absolutely, he is in that conversation. What that means to you, though? What that means is, what that means is, as far as, like, crafting records that have stood the test of time. Although, during his tenure with Bad Boy,
Starting point is 00:10:10 he had a, he did a lot of that. And even after that, going is, like, I would say the last, like, Jadikis record, and I'm sure I'm going to be corrected several times, but Jadikis that, I'm not saying Majedicus feature Majadicus So like record that was in the conversation of very important records is the Y song. Which is probably what featured, that was like
Starting point is 00:10:34 2004 maybe, five. But as far as verses, he is consistently killing 16s, killing fucking radio free songs. To the point where there's a lot of people that prefer, there's people, there's a whole culture of people out there
Starting point is 00:10:50 that listen to mix and radio freestyles more than they do albums. To them people, Jadikis is undeniably a top five artists. Look, right? I look, but like those people are delusional, right? I mean, for example, right? Right? If we're saying, yo, hey, listen,
Starting point is 00:11:12 is who can craft the hottest 16s, right? If that's the barometer for who the top five is, I can go to any hood and find a young nigga who can rap or an old nigga who can rap better than I agree with that too. They're not in the top ten discussions why because they haven't done shit.
Starting point is 00:11:33 So what makes you the goat? Because that has to be different type of categories that you fill in like every single slugs. Look, right? Now look. It's skills, accolades, and impact. Those are the three barometers for what the goat is a lot. is why I say, listen,
Starting point is 00:11:51 if we're talking about... Jada's like higher on the list than I realized. You just totally like nuclear bombed your own argument. No, no, no, no, no, look. He said skills, impact, and what was the third barometer? No, skills, impact, and accolades, right? Ackolates.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Wait, wait, wait. By the time he was 22 years old, he's already... Oh, hey, Russell, question, right? Wait, right, right? So, look, so based on those three, is kiss above pock? No. Based on those three is kiss above Jay-Z.
Starting point is 00:12:22 No. Based on those three, it's kiss above being. You're right with that. You're right with that. You're right with that. But I agreed with you. But you used it in a derogatory way. Sure.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And I'm saying that in a way that's actually praising him. Sure. So that's the difference between. And I understand the term fake goat when you're, you know what I mean? Like. Y'all familiar with Big O, correct? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:46 This guy's. I'm just axi. I'm just axed. have Big O never died. Big O probably would have been top two if not number one. I feel like Jay-Z was coming up under Big O. Jay-Z, I'll fuck with Jay-Z,
Starting point is 00:12:59 but Jay-Z's not fucking with Big O. Okay, so we can't- He cannot fuck with Big O'clock. Tell me what you think, personally. First of all, I just want to say, this is the best podcast that I've ever been on in my entire life. New York.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Come on. Like, I don't care. I don't care if there's 150 people watching. This is the culture, all right? Of course. So with that being said, Big L, when he was signed under Columbia during that tenure, right? Like when, like, Nas was working on IOMADC when, you feel me, it was all like Columbia Roughhouse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:34 During that era, right? Like, Big L was the most dangerous MC in the entire world. To this day, bar for bar, punch for punch, the entire style of battle rap, like battle rap doesn't exist. in the modern context we know it. Eminem doesn't exist. And none of these punchline artists exist without Bigel. And shout's the Lord Freness for being the template
Starting point is 00:14:00 that Big L took from. However, this narrative that Jay-Z wouldn't have existed with Big L without Big L is enacted. I don't think so neither because Jay-Z has that work ethic. Jay-Z was going to exist whether anybody was there or not. No, here, right, right. here right
Starting point is 00:14:19 and people also too sort of like have like revisionist history right like Big L died at 24
Starting point is 00:14:26 years old like Pock listen You know you knew like shit I think Biggie died in 24 I think Bigel was a little
Starting point is 00:14:33 older than that No no no no He was 24 Yeah right Look right So look right Now look Look
Starting point is 00:14:39 Look Pock had 24 and had a diamond record Yeah Right right Right Big L was
Starting point is 00:14:48 24? Yeah. Oh, he's better than I thought. Right? Right. So, right? So, like, this whole think of, yo, if Bigel was alive, he would have been there. No, because, again, when, like, he was alive, he wouldn't, you know, he ain't do shit. First of all, that's a girl. He was still new, though. No. He didn't even get a chance to really, like, pop. He didn't have no diamond records. He gave his chance to pop yet. He had four. Everybody goes at a different age. You can't compare, like, ages to different things. Like, when Favio got on when what? He was, like, 30-something years old. A few. Future is how old?
Starting point is 00:15:20 You can't compare the age to the person. Everybody won this shit time. It's your time. Now, look. Okay. All right, Flacco. You came to play ball today. But Flacco know his facts.
Starting point is 00:15:33 He do. I'm going to give him that. Check this out, all right? Bigel died. Lifesiles of the poor and dangerous had received four and a half mics in the source. A huge accolated at that time. But that don't mean shit, though.
Starting point is 00:15:44 It does because... Because the source like Eminem, I'm like, what, like, what, like, what, like, what, compromise, I think? Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Yeah, but that was just due to a specific situation. There's V and M.B. Oh, yes. That makes sense, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. And he wound up getting a four for the Marshall Mathers L.P., which was still, like, very disrespectful, considering the Marshall and Mathers LP is a clear five mic album.
Starting point is 00:16:10 That's the right. I mean, but, but here's the thing. At the time, there was no real, um, he didn't have any, like, Look, Nas got five mics for Yomatic in 94, right? Keep up that shit. All right? That shit barely had gone gold by the time, like within a year of its release.
Starting point is 00:16:28 It was not like a super impactful album on the charts. It ain't hard to tell was the most successful single from that album. No one like remembers that ever being played on the radio. No one remembers like that's a, that's really an underground release on a mainstream label. So to achieve that accolade, that level of success, it only glimpsed at the potential that Bigel had. You know what I mean? He definitely
Starting point is 00:16:53 had, and plus he was getting ready to, he, the second Big El album that came out, that was literally like after he died and he didn't even have a chance to fully crafted. It's a very similar story to Big Puns, except for you never had it.
Starting point is 00:17:09 You see, here, right? So while like I'm real cautious with the yo, they would have been this, Right, because, for example, if Jay Electronica would have died after dropping Exhibit C, we would have all said, oh, he would, oh, he's the greatest rapper of all time, right? Yeah, yeah. But guess what? 15 years later, we hear like.
Starting point is 00:17:31 West Coast probably would have said that. I don't think the East Coast would have set up. Not. He's made East Coast. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, y'all definitely. It was like, you all loved Jay, like when he dropped. Oh, no, obviously, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:43 You know, Jay held it down and everything, but I don't know if we was going to say that, though. No, no, no. Wait, Finn, listen, when that shit dropped, listen, Exhibit in my opinion, that's the first and probably only universal showcasing of what Gotterr-M-C-N is, right? I'm not going to argue with it.
Starting point is 00:18:02 That's not the only universal. That's God-Tier-M-C-I. Yes, I agree with that statement. It is God-Tier-M-Cing. You feel me? Right. The reason about doubt was that was a no-skip album. No, no.
Starting point is 00:18:13 There's many examples of God-tier-M-C-C-1. And the blue. print. Yeah. Like, oh, you're talking if he would have died. No, no, no, no, no. No, I'm saying right now, Exhibit is literature.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Meaning, brother, like, you can, like, read that as like a haiku. Right? Like, it could be a literal book. Like, it's literature. So I'm saying, like, for example, T.I., JZ, everybody says, yo, no, no, no. We is nice.
Starting point is 00:18:41 But that nigga, he's an alien. He's just, he operates on this play. I'm saying if he would have died when he dropped that, we would have said, oh my God, he's the greatest of all time. No, we would have said he had potential to be like Big O, right? Same thing like Big O.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Exactly, yeah, all right. He'd be in a similar category. And Jay Leck has dropped like, what, like one album, and it was a joint album in 15 years? But here's the, but the thing is this. Yes, a joint album with who? Jay Z. Okay, so a person that's undoubtedly in the goat conversation,
Starting point is 00:19:13 if not the goat. Yeah, cool, thanks. That's a fact. That's where I have him at. You know what I mean? So the fact that he's even in that conversation and the fact that he has a joint album with him, that kind of solidifies the way that the world reveres his potential.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Has he actually executed on that? No, he hasn't. Because he's just lazy. He just don't want to let me music. Whatever his issue is. But at the same time, he did knock a fucking Rothschild bitch. Oh, yeah. So it's like he...
Starting point is 00:19:40 Wait, you talk about right now you feel like he's lazy? Oh, guess what, though? And it was a cold bar. I heard the Ross run the world so I went to Oh my God Yeah I don't know the bar But UK
Starting point is 00:19:54 It got me one It's like that easy That is no That's the biggest My name My name My phone Brin
Starting point is 00:20:05 Not the trick Not the trick Not the trick Look man Brick Right Look brick Look brick
Starting point is 00:20:16 punching a nigga. I was just about to sing. I need a fade. I want to see if he hit the horn. We can do that. Yeah. Yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Like, telling the powers, man. Your hair, right? So look. So your hair, man. So let's actually watch it right now.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Right? But Brigh... Is it the first time? Is it the first time working? Yeah, we ain't got to watch. I don't see it. Yeah, look, so look.
Starting point is 00:20:43 So listen. So like, dude, listen. So like, Coco said, the reason why we ain't beef is because I know if we beef somebody going to die. Had somebody died yet? No, bro, he doesn't have no stepers on his son. They said, I'm sorry, before you click the video, his man said he was pulling up.
Starting point is 00:21:02 The niggas never pulled up. I didn't call it. Gankton for what? Hey, listen, Coco be running shit out there, man. Where at? He just wanted me to say something for the last. Long Island, and Coco be running shit out there, man. He just wants to say.
Starting point is 00:21:16 awful reaction. According to Coco, listen, though. You listen according to Coco. Wait, wait, wait. Did he make it out the building? Yes. Unskate? What, here?
Starting point is 00:21:26 Here, what, though? The video's posted online with the four niggas on the corner and shite-massed up. When the hand was in the bag, why did you turn around and walk away? According to Coco, gang shit, like the ghouls pulled up and, like, and niggas that was there
Starting point is 00:21:40 was scared and, like, and, like, and, like, cop and, please. Now, I ain't seen no ghouls pull up. You said that? Yeah He didn't say that Man Wait
Starting point is 00:21:49 He didn't say that But he didn't say that But wait Let me see Everything I always say I always put my mother My father's life So niggas
Starting point is 00:21:55 No I'm not lying But I pull up with receipts and shit Right When my hand dug in my bag And he'd see what was in the bag Why didn't he turn around And walk away
Starting point is 00:22:02 And I wasn't even there for that We were supposed to have a debate Just like a battle rap Face off You know to build the audience And everything You guys are arguing So we all knew
Starting point is 00:22:13 That you know We was gonna get chippy just like with the Starspe and the dipset versus they you know They said an interview that they had a conversation A slang definition of chippy I'm loving Shippie is like you know like It's gonna get lit but we're not gonna take it there
Starting point is 00:22:26 It's to build the audience and everything He said When you see in the video My man's called me The reason why I'm beefing with him is because of my men's And everything I really don't have a personal issue with Coco But bro's from my town
Starting point is 00:22:42 He's the person that opened up a podcast Are you from everything? Nah, I'm from my car. That's the 64. Okay, okay. So when my man's called me and you tell my man suck my dick, you're going to see it in a thing. And you said it too when I said, say that shit again, say that shit again. I'm not talking to you.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I wasn't talking to you. Then Trappelands, like, he wasn't talking to you. But as a man and your character, how does it look? And this is what all do, you know, I'm not trying to disrespect anybody. I'm just making a hypothetical situation. If one of your guests came here and told Adam, no disrespect. but you could suck my dick and blah blah blah He's getting shot
Starting point is 00:23:17 Exactly my point Now you're not seeing Now you're not saying this to me But you're saying this to somebody I work with And I'm with every single Sunday you see on the camera If I'm saying no business You compromise in my whole entire character
Starting point is 00:23:30 Then you following up with Niggas is going to die Now you're going on Instagram and saying As a man you know when the cameras went off You could have asked for the feed But we all know how this whole social media shit is You would have just got that little clip and post it and act like nothing ever
Starting point is 00:23:45 happened. When you lying the whole time, what exactly happened? And I wasn't there for that. Cappers go off. Nigger, you said it right now. You said it right there. What the fuckers you talk about when the cameras go? Here, now listen, I do want to be fair, right? Because Coco this, nigga.
Starting point is 00:24:01 He went live with somebody, right? I forgot a guy. No, he went live with, here, him. Say that? No, him right here. Oh, Trapland. Shout to Traplin in New York City. Right? Right. And he said that the goons came, right, that he had the goons out.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Not that I'm sorry. You feel what I? They came to his rescue. Dicker, he had. Listen, listen. Listen, listen. So if the goons comes, who's supposed to knock some shit down?
Starting point is 00:24:24 But talk about the next day, and it's on my Instagram live, when Traplin had us on the Instagram live. He saw a guy list of. Talk about when he asked me for my address and I sent it, but he never pulled up. But what did you say? Because you,
Starting point is 00:24:39 because I know you got to do what you got to do, but in your reaction video, when he sent me the location, me my man's the location and we pulled up, what was his response? Oh, I baited you. I wasn't even there. Listen, now, that was crazy. Oh, he was being chippy. Now, that was insane.
Starting point is 00:24:56 He was being chippy. You dropped the location. You're supposed to be at the location when you drop it. Come on, bro. Right? Because listen, because if you drop the location and then it's like discovered that you drop a fake location, and then his thing, his thing.
Starting point is 00:25:11 That right there, is it like, no, that's not gay. He thought they still was getting jibby. Exactly. I fuck with you, Coco, but it's not gazing. No, but listen to the facts, though. Listen to the facts, though, because you want to, because he wants to get on other interviews and like, nigga, you pulled up, how dumb are you that you pulled up to that address that I gave you when you went? Coco's not from my hood.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And I don't like to kick him in when he's down, so I'm not going to speak on the specifics. But, nigger, you live at the Dodson's house and corn. If you from corn in my hood. Not to be specific. No. You live in front of the gray dots in the- Bro, you're in the crack house. You're right in the room in a crack house.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Full of crackheads. Yeah. This is facts. You want my block that I grew up on. I've been there for- You only been there for, you only lived in my hood for two months because he ain't had nowhere to go.
Starting point is 00:26:00 So when you try to paint this false narrative on the interview, like, oh, you-nigger, niggas could have bum-rushed your whole entire, like, blitzed your whole shit. Yeah. You're not sending me to nothing. I don't know I'm aware of.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Send me somewhere outside the town We would have thought about it Or we would have been more strategic Or there would have been more cars there But bro, stop trying to pick this personality Is Long Island similar to New York And like Nah New York City gets busy
Starting point is 00:26:23 Mon Island we get overlooked But you got hooked No no no no look I'm very familiar with the territory I got like a lot of my family From out there and all that But I'm saying as far as Police presence and cameras and shit
Starting point is 00:26:34 It's everywhere New York is dumb burnt You know what I mean Like real hard to like Get shit tracking when it's not going to be on camera. Is Long Island like a little bit? Everybody got busy everywhere, bro.
Starting point is 00:26:47 It's just with Long Island, we have a lot of trees, a lot of yards. You want to look at New York City. It's a lot more project building. So Long Island, we get looked at it as a soft person, but bro, I'm not no tough nigga. I'm a vlogger and I work a 9 to 5 job. Like, I'm just a man that like I stand on
Starting point is 00:27:05 principles and morals. I'm not and trying to portray this image. And he goes on the interview and says, expose the rest, expose the, you this, this and that. This is the image you're portraying. This is the image you know, everybody sees you. And I think that's the problem with black men in America
Starting point is 00:27:21 is that even when you make it and you have an opportunity, nobody ever gets a chance to, you know, accomplish. People still want to live up to an image. So it's like, bro, you're a multi-million dollar there and everything, but you're supposed to crash out to live to an image.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And that's not even mutually exclusive to race, to be honest with you. That's like a problem with just... I think there's society, bro. It doesn't make sense. Like men in America. You feel me? But yeah, of course, like... What's your definition of gangster?
Starting point is 00:27:54 A person that's going to go to jail because he lived behind the image that people are perceived them as? Or a person that, you know, probably came from the dirt, came from the struggle and everything and he's able to take care of his family. What am I accomplished him? exposing rats because let's be honest on his platform he exposed the federal informant
Starting point is 00:28:14 you know on camera and everything that's cool you could look at the nigga no disrespect to him but you could look at the nigga and they ain't like that or nothing but at the same time you also got rats that them niggas to shoot shit up or whatnot why aren't you exposing them type of people or whatnot but you want you're a blogger
Starting point is 00:28:31 a blogger that's his job to talk about different various beefs controversy things that's going on in the industry whatsoever. I'm a vlogger. One of my gaining out of that besides people want to be like, besides, oh, nah, he's still on business, he exposed the rest. That's not doing nothing for my brain.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Here, let's watch it real quick, though. We should wait for a break for a break. Oh, never mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, let's watch her. What the fuck? There's no sound. Right? Can you hear it? But shit is cool for now again.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Okay, okay. Content. Ben know what's out with me. Y'all listen. I went to patch off for a birthday celebration. We end up going to the same bar that Ben, his girl, and her friends was at. Ben left his girl in the ball by herself. You're ready to fight right there already.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I see. Right to my men suck my dick. Yeah. I see. I'm with my niggas. Big Coco, man. Niggas are do. Niggas and do men.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Niggas and do Ben's bad. Now, I could. Me and Ben was arguing on the internet. I knew he's ass. Right? I knew he's ass. So what I do? What I do?
Starting point is 00:29:46 What I do? What I do? What's that you called? I bait it on. So you pulled up to a crib that I'm not even at. Niggas could have spain with you. Niggins know exactly where his shit is at. Bending is being funny.
Starting point is 00:29:57 He saved you niggas, man. He just said, man. That ain't fun. Niggas will beat the shit out of him. And the only reason why I spared you? And we left it alone. You know why? That's what I'm mad.
Starting point is 00:30:08 On my soul. Hey, he's, he's, wait, let me see it, man. He's an entertaining guy. Wait, on my soul.
Starting point is 00:30:14 He's entertaining. Oh, my soul. What's just you know why, niggas, let you alone and left you rock, you know why? Because of me and you go at it, somebody going to die.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Bro, standing on his toes with it going to. Look at that shit, bro. Bro, look at us though. Bro, this is bad at him. Bro, this is bad at him, on his toes telling you,
Starting point is 00:30:33 if we go out of it, somebody going to die. Timmy toes. Wait, wait, let me actually like, zoom in real quick. You, watch the toes. man. This is fucking.
Starting point is 00:30:41 That niggas. He creased in his jays. Watch the toes, man. Watch the toes, man. Watch the cover of him, man. And your cousin, I know your cousin in jail. You, bro, it's... You're like Baritian cough. You're like a ballerina.
Starting point is 00:30:55 You feel what? He's like, beyond shirty. Like, oh, my son. I've been doing this thing for four years, y'all. I've been talking shit to everybody. See, because my hair is. Bad intentions, man. Well, here play the actual punch, well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:10 What was it at that moment that made you decide? No, no, hell, not. The punches, that's just on screen. Oh, all right. Cool, cool. You reacted. What was it that made you decide? Because here you're standing up.
Starting point is 00:31:20 What made you decide at this moment? Bad intentions, little. Oh, he just caught. He just caught. I've been doing this for four years, y'all. You're not putting me on that list. Okay. You was going to get hit no matter what.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Yeah. This is the thing. You was going to get hit no matter what after you said to suck my dick then. Yeah. It was more like, Let me just wait for the right time. But once you said the four years name, yeah, nah, bro. That was the buzzword four years.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah, bro. So, like, you know, he could say Trapland set him up and this, this and that. Bro, I'm the one that asked Trapland for him to come on. Because he had one debate while I'm beefing with him or what he wanted to say. Trapland wanted to interview me separately. But I'm more like if we're both in two different rooms, it's going to be a one-sided story. so who's really telling the truth? You really don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:09 That's why I'm more like, you know, why don't we have both of us sit down? We knew it's going to get chippy. If you, you know, what we really wanted to talk about, we couldn't get past like one sentence because we're arguing and everything. But you're disrespecting like that. And then you go on those social media.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Is that guy in the middle? Shouts a bro, by the way. That's Trapland. That's Trapland. Okay, that's a homie. Yeah, that's a mutual. So he's friends with him too? I'm more cool with Coco.
Starting point is 00:32:35 That was my same. second time on working with them and everything. And Trapland is the moderator in this situation. Right. This is his brain and his establishment and everything. Okay. I would, like Trapland, this is not an admonishment of you, but, and I get it,
Starting point is 00:32:50 he was getting good content, but. The interview should stop? A little bit more intervention probably would have been good at this point. Bro, I said this, bro, and, bro, shout out to bro, you know, for even giving the platform, everything's happening. I shouldn't even speak on this on
Starting point is 00:33:05 camera, but, you know, I had to pay, bro, $100 for disrespecting the spot, and I understand. But my whole entire thing is, it's like, nobody probably knew what I was thinking in the back of my head. Or, like, me and him had an hour, me and Trap had an hour conversation. You paid him a hundred bucks? After, after. You got to understand. Shout out to bro.
Starting point is 00:33:24 His son is in, his little son is like, this, he's in the store and everything. Oh. Blood was all over the floor, mashed, nothing broke, but, like. He was bleeding? Coco? Yeah. Really? Well, we can say blood because a...
Starting point is 00:33:40 What? Because a big six-o is in the building, right, for me? No, I'm referring to him as the big six-o. Y'all said on that scene, for me, and that's not cool. But Lush, like I wanted to say, Lush, was like, out of respect and everything, you're probably thinking, he's probably thinking, I can't speak of him, but this is how I was thinking. and me and him kind of went out at it at first. Now we're cool on good terms. But what me and Trap was like,
Starting point is 00:34:09 you're seeing everything he was saying to me. You're probably thinking in the back of your head, like, oh, this is going to make for good content. Absolutely what he's thinking. I would have been like, you know what, y'all, you know, let's stop the interview right now or let's take a break real quick. But it's like, bro, like,
Starting point is 00:34:24 and my whole thing is, it's like, y'all was fucking with each other way before you knew me. I'm the new kid in the building. I've been doing this for one year. It's just I have a good work ethic. so in Long Island, it's kind of like that's not me and Coco Yeah, man
Starting point is 00:34:37 I see you, I see you He's not a year in, man I'm a year in. He's been doing this, bro. What the fuck? How long I've been here? Oh, Pocketh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:46 We're not talking about prison. No, but right. But to be fair to Trapland, like beyond my critique, I probably would have had the same thought process as you and realized
Starting point is 00:34:58 that this is content gold. But it would have been nice if he's, of mutual of years like that for him to at least like try to, I wouldn't have necessarily stop the pie. That could be good content though. Look at Almighty suspect and
Starting point is 00:35:12 Kelpie. Yeah, and Kelpy. Right. You know, I'm so after the bitch thing, me, I know what it's like, if you're calling a grown man the bitch, whether the cameras is there or not. But you don't know that that could be good content. That was content, but then like Kelpy. I think it was more than speaking on Benjamin Franklin because, you know, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:30 suspect like holds, that's like a deeper friend. He'd been one and hit him, but like his energy was my energy towards that. Bro, before this whole interview, we've been pulled up to your crib and everything. I've been wanting to hit you. I'm just respectful of the whole situation because this is your establishment and your kids in the spot. But just like the all-sustach situation.
Starting point is 00:35:50 But yeah, you know, the Benjamin thing was probably triggering, but he wasn't going to hit him. You calling another man bitch? No, I was totally joking about the- Are you saying something like that on camera? Bro, all bets is off. Wait, wait, wait, wait. So, like, Ben Franklin is a real person? I assume he's from my...
Starting point is 00:36:09 Are he joking? You're joking or not? He's talking about money. He was, bro. Oh, I'm assuming, like, CEO, right? No, here, right? Like, when you said that Ben Franklin was there to him, I thought you meant, like, some pep named Ben Franklin was like...
Starting point is 00:36:23 A pimp name, Ben Franklin. Some pimp name, yo. That's my new pimp name. They call me Ben Franklin, yeah. Big Ben, not the little. When the cameras is on, bro. When the cameras is on, it's cool to have other. It's like, like, um, my expert opinion when Tony Yeo went on the math hop for shit.
Starting point is 00:36:43 It's kind of like, you could have bar, like, in the barbershop, you have arguments, but it's nothing like physical or anything. Everybody argues in the barbershop and shit. So why did you get physical? You told, you told my man to suck my dick and you said somebody's going to die. All right. I've seen you on camera getting crazy. No, no, it's time to go crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I would say you don't got to defend that. Talk about, oh, well, they have arguments here or there. Yeah, fuck that. They could violate it. Yeah, between the argument and violating. And that's the difference. When you violate it's different. I ain't never had a nigga blatantly violate me on camera because Lord Jesus.
Starting point is 00:37:18 No one's going to really look at you like as a liability that's in the space that you're gearing your content. I don't even want to look at to be as a liability because I'm a vlogger, bro. No, I want people to book me. I don't want people to think that like your price went through the roof. Yeah, no one's tripping on you. I love people who's not. You know what? What, man?
Starting point is 00:37:35 Come on, man, boy. Give me one. They love that shit. You see the island boys. They don't hit that hard. Yeah. I mean, the island boys, they don't hit hard enough. But they're trying to do the shit that you do,
Starting point is 00:37:46 they try to do that shit every day. They don't hit on the girl. No, you know what's the thing, though, bro? That's what I'm saying. It's like saying people, like, I don't try to portray a tough image because I work in 9 to 5 and I get paid from vlogging and YouTube and everything. I feel like with them, like when they walk around and no disrespect to them, because I don't,
Starting point is 00:38:01 because I don't know them, but you try to portray like this, like this tough image and shit. And it's like, bro, like, you go in between. Yeah, they're gay gay guys. Yeah, bro. I'm not no, I'm not no gangstom. I'm not just a person with, like, morals and principles and everything. No, and you seem like a level-headed dude. But is the irony not lost on you that you said,
Starting point is 00:38:20 I don't want platforms like no jumper to think of me as a liability? I don't want nobody. Wow. Where the fuck are you at after what you did? Right. Yeah, man. Not trying to reward that behavior. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:31 I'm just saying. Well, to be fair, though, we ain't bring him on for that. No, I, like, thought the dude. You don't know. No, no, no, no, I brought him on, right? Why, right? Why? He don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:41 He was reaching out. Mike, Mike, Mike. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Look, Russell, look, right? Now, look. So, if Mike, like, FaceTime me, I say, yo, listen, he's like a dude who's mad talented. You fool me?
Starting point is 00:38:54 Right? He's mad talented. He can. He can. He can't. I know. I know what she said, Gay. I just want to say.
Starting point is 00:39:01 this nigga keep O'Line through this straight-ass T. But we talked, right? What I told him, hey, listen, come on, but don't talk about it. Of course. Of course. I told you that, man. He used to with the academics. Come over, we're not going to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:39:19 So does he get in front of that camera. He got an instant scratch. Nick, you know what you're going to talk about. Now, here, right? Now, here, but the past after, though, we have a tree for the people, right? We are here to debate. The top 25 West Coast rappers of all time.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Now, we have new school and old school. Niggas, like, brick is on there, Kalin is on there, blasts on there. Then we have, you know, Pog, Cube, Dre, right? So. Niggas can't rap like me. So. We're not even going to do that. So before we get, let's just like, let's just acknowledge.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Yeah. Let's just acknowledge what happened yesterday, all right? Okay. Before. Okay. Yeah. So yesterday. You all went to a booth to make a disc tracks.
Starting point is 00:39:58 We went to. We didn't make disc tracks. We made a free. style. Y'all made, together? Me, Adam, and Lush. Bad strokes. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:08 So there's an upcoming No-Cover cipher. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To say with the proper Queens English. Yeah. Yeah. Adam, Lush, and I
Starting point is 00:40:19 made a fire started cooking some shit, but I just want to say like this full brick baby, bro. He's talking that shit. He's a rap. I'm talking about. I'm not saying that Lush had, had, like, the best verse.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Oh, oh, Hurley, you a hater. Bring out the best verse? Cocaine, buy. Hey, I heard he said, Lus had the best one. I'm not going to say, look, look. That's crazy. I'm going to tell you like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:44 It was classic. I ain't going to say I ain't snap. But, like, I'm low-key going to make a little, you feel me, g-c-c-c-c-c-cure. Pull-l-lop-stut-in-a-cote. I'm going to do a little bit of revisionizing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:55 Like, my shit was more like a rough draft. Now, considering the circumstances, I did a fine stellar When's the track dropping? Brick. I'm just going to say what it was, all right? Look, my man's freestyled a three-minute-plus
Starting point is 00:41:12 song. Off the top? Off the top. And it was... Don't say who he dissed, though. I'm not going to say all that. I'll tell you just right now. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah. Everybody got that work. Everybody. Everybody. Literally. Nobody safe. He's just going to. Can you guys get a bar in there?
Starting point is 00:41:31 Nah, we don't say. You got to be like... Did the Flaping get a bar in there, though? You got to be on vid IQ, like, over a 70-something for me to dis you. Oh, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I ain't got that work. I got that right there is some YouTuber shit to like... Yeah, yeah, I'm a YouTuber.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Real, like, this is a real, like, nuanced, YouTuber, like... No, but here's the thing, though, like, break, like... Full to understand what he just said, though. Yeah. Did you have to be over a 70? Clearly, clearly he indicated that right there, right? But beyond that, this will made like an actual record. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:14 That pulls a listen to it. So my shit. Well, I didn't put no hook on it. I just freestyle. But it's the way I keep changing up on that motherfucking. It could be a record. What Adam do? He wrote, he wrote, so who goes through fun?
Starting point is 00:42:28 He wrote his own shirt? I mean, we... A collaborative process. Nah, yeah, he knows what he wants to say. We just told him what order to say it because he was all over the place, so we'd like, let us just structure it.
Starting point is 00:42:41 You say what you want to say, and then we'll line it up for it. Adam 100% had a very clear-cut idea on what he wanted to say and who we wanted to be. He already had the rhymes to it and all that. It's just like, all right, say this one here, then...
Starting point is 00:42:55 It's just a structuring thing and all that. And the difference is, like, I'm like thinking we do in a cypher, so I write like a cipher verse and like, but this fool made like a complete actual record fool. I'm not in the front. I was like, so when we got to hear it?
Starting point is 00:43:12 So when we got to do his verse? Well, because I had to do my verse and the suspect got to do his verse. But my shit is head, right? So look, right? Right. They don't be the referee. No, no, no, no. They're going to have different sessions. Right. Right. Can I take a pisser. No, he's a rep.
Starting point is 00:43:27 No, he's a referee. Yeah, your choice. Yeah, right. So look. So, my- So, my- Right, that went on 25 to 35. You're right?
Starting point is 00:43:35 Because, look, because my shit is like, why I ask for more time, because I'm trying to make mine like a production type of shit, right? Like, on some like Drake and Pock shit, like, like, look. No, hold on. Drake and Pock in the same sense, it's crazy. Some Drake and Pock. Like, that's crazy. No, no.
Starting point is 00:43:56 No, no. No. He's AI? Yes. So look. Okay. No, bro. Now, no, no, look.
Starting point is 00:44:02 You're not getting away. No, no, no. No, no. No, so look. Right. Not look. This is going to be so good. No, look.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Now look. I'm trying to dis those niggas in their own voices, meaning like, but I called them. This is a freestyle. We'll do that on a record on a disc song. But I called them. I say that. I let my raw, edgy and all that because it's a freestyle.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Like, it's not perfect. I kept telling people that imperfection, lets you know it's a pre-style. But I call the one dude a crackhead. I want him to hear himself being called a crackhead in his own voice. And the one nigga who beats bitches, I want him to hear, hear me, like, hear himself call himself open-beaten right? Why? Because it's gonna, you know, it just hits
Starting point is 00:44:46 hips, it hits different. Honestly, I'm... I got a weapon beater all right now. He do. He got that, he got that Ike. Dot T. Wife beater. You call him in it, right? You call that woman bea-bitters? It's a white beater. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:00 People call them white beaters. They're not white beaders. They're white people. Do you know where it came from? Yeah. You know the origin? No, I don't. It's trailer trash 100%.
Starting point is 00:45:10 But not even that. Like, every time on fucking, like, cops and all that, when they go for domestic violence shit, they come out in a tank top. So they start calling it. I never seen a nigger. Who wears that about a shirt? Who don't be women?
Starting point is 00:45:24 Like, like, come on, bro, look at that. What, what, what, beside brick. What are you just insinuate? Say it again. Sorry. So, so, okay, so, like, besides brick band, yeah. This is crazy. I've never seen,
Starting point is 00:45:37 Nann, nigga, who, who just wears that as the shirt? Who don't beat women? Now, I'm going to say this, though. Being a bitch is much different than being your wife. Deity don't wear that. You just a die-boggling a big, man. You eat a... You even.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Dedy don't wear that, and I bet you he... Listen. I'm not perfect I'm not Hey let's move on real quick No no no no no no because you're no that And the d nigga past shit is to be a piff Look I will say this
Starting point is 00:46:09 There are so many bars that I want to quote From this full of shit But I'm just gonna saw y'all y'all out And let's wait feel me But with that being said I'm on fucking Helmets Helmits as well
Starting point is 00:46:22 You are revisiting that shit Even before that Who you were original? Who was your ops? Whoever we don't fuck with I don't fuck with So I believe somebody got red out of the city I don't know
Starting point is 00:46:39 Potentially Potentially Yeah, I don't know Hey look though I have one request though Dish Uri but just leave Riley out of it me Fulmin' me she's a good girl man Oh my God
Starting point is 00:46:51 I'm just kidding I would never do that. She's a good person. I would never do that. Right. Now, listen, now, I think Yuri is a good person, too, but if y'all got a personal beef, cool. But you leave, probably out of it, man, all right? But, so let's start.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Josh. No, like, can you like... So, essentially, to reiterate, what we're doing right here is making a definitive list. Yeah. This is not going to be, like, based on personal biases. This is an objective. Top 25. West Coast rappers of all time...
Starting point is 00:47:22 And the next week we can do the East Coast. Then next week we do, you feel me, like the top 10 currently. So, right, so this is going to- I think that's like a pretty good number. Because it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we have 100 niggas here. So we're going to, you know what, right? So first off, so I feel like we have to start with the 25, right?
Starting point is 00:47:43 Well, look, look, I think that is important in, like, to nail down criteria to add validity. Just so real quick. Sure. And this is based on success, accolades. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Skills, accolades, and influence. Skills, accolades, and influence.
Starting point is 00:47:56 So that's no, number one. Or impact or influence. That's what, what, wait. Debately. Debateably, yeah. Let's just go through. They don't debate. Well, yeah, I mean, that's a.
Starting point is 00:48:05 But let's start off, though. I'm not going to, I'm 25th, though, right? That's hard, though. Okay, so. It's easier than you think. I hear. What, going to lease? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Well, I feel like with the tier system he's developed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, right. All right. Right. Let's do it. So here's my recommendation who I want to put at 25, all right? So pretty much is going to be left to right.
Starting point is 00:48:30 So 25, 24. That's not water? Yeah. So look. So who I want to recommend for 25, I feel like would be 03 Grito. No. O'3 Grito's higher. Of all time?
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah. I think that's not a bad place for him at all. Yeah. 25. All right. Go ahead. To start off, though, at 25 and then move dick is up, you feel me? I just have one question real quick before you start. Is Mazi from Cali?
Starting point is 00:48:58 Yes. Yeah. You're, that's crazy. We said L.A. though. No, no, it's just California. No, Mazzi not being up there is. No, no, no. Mazzi not on this list? No, we could add people.
Starting point is 00:49:10 So, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, sure, sure. All, look. He's definitely glimping at that list for show. I look, so, okay. So start off with Grito is for sure on the 25, right? I think there's, I mean, like, if not, he's right around there.
Starting point is 00:49:28 So he could for sure be brought into that tier for now at least. I just seen Grito face somewhere here, but I'm having to. Grito and Roddy Rich are hired. Like, anybody that, hold on, hold on, let me get this off. Anybody that went outside the box and was successful and didn't make the regular fucking mustard YG music at that time to get on, definitely. she have a special spot on the list. That's so hard of grind.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Okay, okay, I don't disagree with that. But also, like, is Roddy Rich a rapper? We're calling him a rapper? I think he's very versatile. He's very versatile. Young thug is a rapper. Like, yes. Young thug is a rapper.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Because look at Kevin Gates. Kevin Gates makes a lot of singing music as well, but he's a rapper. Autotude is a part of rap now. You can't put nobody to the side. This changes the conversation. Yeah. and blasts is everything. Shout on Mazin.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Okay, so we might need to, like, be a little more specific with our definition. Because- Bro, skills, accolades, and the influence-slash-impact. So, meaning it this, right, if you are, like, a rapidy, melodic rapper, but if you're just a full-on R&B nigga, then, you know, that is, yeah. Well, okay, like, and I think that's kind of where it gets, like, does Roddy Rich have any songs where he just raps. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Yeah, Bossa raps on the minute. What do you mean, fool? I just hit a link with the Bats. I just had a name with the Bats. That's rapping. Yeah, bro. That's how he's singing, fool. Bro, that's how we rap now.
Starting point is 00:51:03 You're going to rap it, and then you turn it into melodic. But if you're rapping that fast, that's a rap. For example, you got to adapt with the culture. I can name several songs that Young Thug has where he just strictly raps. But you can go through Rottie shit and get real rap songs. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:51:17 You just, they're not popular. Yeah, okay. Yeah. So, Roddy's on the list. Grito for sure. But Nate dogs on the list, right? He never wrapped. Nate dogs on the list.
Starting point is 00:51:26 That was like. Ty Dalla sign on the list? Yeah, of course. That's what I'm saying. This is like, this is like, Chee. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Ty kid. Mazzie for sure 25, right? He's part of the for sure 25, right? I'm pulling Mazzia. Now, also let's be fair to say that, because they're going to already be talking this shit. Yes, we know Tupac was born in New York. Yes, we know.
Starting point is 00:51:47 know that exhibit was born in a of LA though in a of course in Michigan and group in Albuquerque yes we know corrupts born in Philly they still count as West Coast Artisan. Absolutely is. Yeah like Ice T is born in New Jersey he counts as a West Coast artist. All right?
Starting point is 00:52:03 So Roddy Rich is for short 25 right? I mean like I'll put him at 25 just because he still low-key kind of has like a new career. He's not probably like seven, 10 years like No, no, no, no, right? He surpassed a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:52:21 But he did surpass a lot of people, right? We just need the, ah, I, okay, no, hold on. But we do, but we do got to look at that, like, streams now versus back in the days is two different categories. Now people, you know, you got to Spotify, the Apple Music, back in the days, you didn't really have any of that. You probably just had the vibe magazines. You just have the billboards or something. So, you know, my generation, we have a lot more different things that, you know, we could be streaming off of.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Sure thing. It's easier now to get put on it back in the day. You really have to put that work in. Well, let me use that same logic then that Roddy Rich has surpassed a lot of people with his accolades. Okay. And just fuck the whole conversation up right now. Did Roddy Rich surpass
Starting point is 00:53:05 MC Hammer's accolades? No. No. We didn't say that. Okay, so is MC Hammer on? He got to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, go, yeah, good, right? So, look, we just try to find a solid 25, right? MC Hammer at 42 short Mac Dreyer in there, then MC Hammer's.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Yeah, for sure. Look, I look, right, so look. Just making sure when you use the same parameters, because I don't disagree with that. Here, right? Here, right. So look, we can go on it up right here, right? So look, so do, like, you're 25 to 20, right? So me is this.
Starting point is 00:53:40 So for 25 to 20, I would say, I want for Grito, Mazzi, I would say J-Rock No This is what he's saying Because Mazzies higher In my opinion But I respect it
Starting point is 00:53:57 And I love J-Rock Don't get a question Look right So look right So look right So here's my like 25 to 20 Right And you do yours
Starting point is 00:54:04 You do yours right Right And then like We figure out On like who's coming out And who's staying Okay Right
Starting point is 00:54:11 So my 25 to 20 I think it has to be Grito Mazzi J Rock Munchy B Munchy B Wait what, bro? No disrespect to Munchy but
Starting point is 00:54:27 And Vince Staples Your list is fucking awful, bro For 25 to 20 though, that's my list So what's yours? So where are you putting Conrad at? I don't think Conrad has Mick La Blah Blah Blah Blah
Starting point is 00:54:42 Nicky Conrad got 13 million streams on one song Yeah, but he's not a top 25. How is Munchy B top 25 if Conrad ain't? Sure. Conratt, the one that made Munchy B start rapping. You can't tell the history of L.A. rap with how muchy B though. Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Rap? The history of L.A. rap in the last 10 years, you can't tell us to what Munchy B. This is why you're from out of town. Who made Munchy B start rapping? I'm assuming Conrad, right? The hit your rolling, which has plenty of million. And they start doing the fuck the rolling and all that shit, bro. Which was a response to Ricky, by the way.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Yeah, yeah, no. But I'm saying in our area, yeah, it was response to Ralee and Ricky. Ricky was original. And then hit your Relly came back. Did it hit your roller. All right. Point blank period. Conrad is the ass any Southsider or young gangbanger in L.A., who is they at all time.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Was involved in more rap storylines though, right? Like, you're talking about Beasts. And the disc records that came with the beast, though. You don't know what type of underlying, what are you talking about? That was in the last two, three years, bro. That's one person, man. The whole city hate Conrad. Why do you think they just got to that rumble up there, bro?
Starting point is 00:56:02 Who are 25 to 20? Listen. Yeah, so here's 25 to 20. And we just going to put all the new niggas first. No, no, no. I think that's respectfully. Yeah, I mean, that's out of respect. I ain't really being respectful
Starting point is 00:56:17 Because a lot of these Hey shit Let's see So it'll be For right there It'll have to be I go I won't agree though
Starting point is 00:56:28 I hear though I put Man That's the whole list right here There's only people We're picking out of No No we can add people
Starting point is 00:56:39 So just give me like Your 25 to 20 I bet I'm gonna go Brad Okay I'm gonna go YG
Starting point is 00:56:54 Okay I'm gonna go Grito Okay Kid Inc Okay And You said YG Myself
Starting point is 00:57:12 Wait wait Wait wait Wait wait wait wait wait Wait wait wait wait wait sorry So you said Yeah lyricism Wait so wait so O3
Starting point is 00:57:22 Kid Inc YG Conrad and you Right Yeah All right, Lush. Who's your 25 to 5 to 20? So so far... And there's no shade to Munchy, but...
Starting point is 00:57:32 Yeah. Listen. No shade. I like Lush. Lush, Lush. He is the influence on gang culture. You said gang members, he's up there, top 10. 25 to 20.
Starting point is 00:57:44 I got Exhibit. Okay. I got the Jacka. Okay. I see, it's the Bay, too. It's the Bay, too. It certainly is the Bay, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I got it. No, I'm parked like near like the, like the, like track again. Yeah, yeah, keep it with your car. Okay. Give some, no, your car too fast for them. Who? Keys. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:58:10 I said you could have gave somebody your keys too, but. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Hurley? Oh, yeah. We're talking. I got you. Shit, since we hear, what, this shit's still rolling? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Come on. All right. Yeah, we'll wait until you get back. Yeah, yeah. I just want to tell y'all, bro, I'm dead-ass appreciate this. fucking opportunity. You already know. New York City always gets like put
Starting point is 00:58:32 on everything. Me being from Long Island I'd like network more with New York City because Long Island's kind of like a crab in the barrel, bro. So, bro, I appreciate this shit like a motherfucker. Lopsuring a barrel. I'm a vlog. I'm like, I'm a vlogger bro. I don't do no, none of that
Starting point is 00:58:46 gangst shit, none of that. I'm just somebody that sends some morals and principles though, bro. I get it. I respect it. And you definitely sit on yours and you're able to articulate your stuff. Yo, bro, like I'll be watching y'all videos like all the time like before I even know a thought
Starting point is 00:59:02 of me being up here was going to happen but I watch our shit like all the time and everything yeah it's time to get out there shit you just socked your way in come on this is definitely the spot for fuck shit
Starting point is 00:59:16 I like fuck shit this is the HQ totally exists here but beyond that shout's the Long Island because people don't realize how many hip hop legends are from Long Island Jack like Jess. Chalfaubh famous.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Jack like Jess is a hip-Legh. I was going to say Rockin, Buster Rhymes, Jaylax soul, you feel like me, all that. But little peep, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:37 There's like so many. Is Jack like Jess from Rhode Island or Long Island? No, he's from Long Island. Oh. Jack like, I feel like a lot of Long Island people, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:59:45 which I don't blame them because you're not really responsible for another man's success. So I do understand and I do get it. But I feel like when people get put on or something, they don't really shine light.
Starting point is 00:59:57 on like the area or at least the town or something. I'm not saying, you know, because there's going to be a million people who's in your DM like yo, bro, do my service is a vlog. Do a vlog for me. Do this. Shout me out. You can't do this for like a million people. Especially if you feel like they're not putting in the work. The people that's hidden, you got
Starting point is 01:00:13 to try to reach out to it. Make something. That's a fact. Absolutely. Yo, it's a lot of people that really don't put in the work. But once they see somebody that's probably from the same town that has a chance to get put on, now they want to, you know, reach out
Starting point is 01:00:27 to you like yo reshare you know reshare my music you know repost this this and that I look at a lot of shit that like bro if I wasn't here or something like what would you do for yourself are you waiting for the next man me bro like I slept on couches bro like I had to wait for the bus after I've done vlogs in New York City at like three o'clock in the morning just to get back to Long Island or that shit like I don't take nothing for granted this time's that I'm stranded outside break outside bro in New York that shit get brick I don't know if it snows I don't think it snows out of head, but over there. There's brick outside out here,
Starting point is 01:00:59 these niggas tucker. No, break outside, no pun intended. No, it's the same type of thing. When the brick outside these days. It get chilly.
Starting point is 01:01:09 It gets cold. Yo, bro, I sacrifice a lot, bro, so even, like, being in the situation. So for people that would probably think that, like, bro, you got put on
Starting point is 01:01:20 because of a punch, I've been going viral off my vlogs. You wouldn't even been in that position. I wouldn't even been in that position. Had I, never put the work in. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:29 The fight for the lot sounds crazy. You can't do that why these ditty allegations are. No, bro. I ain't even worried about them niggies and all that shit, bro. I know who I am. But, like, I smile a lot, bro, when I'm on, like, an interview or, like, and people in front of y' y'all, bro,
Starting point is 01:01:42 because there's so many people that have been in my situation or, like, sleeping on cars or I'm sleeping on, on, shout out to my nigga, light skin, top shelf. I'm sleeping on his mother's couch and everything, and I got my phone charged up, and I'm just watching old jumper interviews and shit. And this man in the, But I'm like, yo, bro, I know one day I'm gonna be here.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Yo, so this is what I wanted to say real quick, that I was talking to poetic off the camera, right? With the whole manifestation thing, I'm out here shooting the vlog and Cali for the bros that's outside. I just met them not too long ago. We booked a trip to Cali like three months ago and everything. And it just so happened that a week ago, the punch thing, the thing. And that's, I know that God's really real, bro. My nigga, punch made. What's your name?
Starting point is 01:02:28 Young Vado. Young Vado. Punch made Vado. And that's so funny because I said that y'all was scammers earlier. When I was like, I was like, they dress too good. They got to be scammers. No, not me. Yo, I'm gonna keep with a buck, bro.
Starting point is 01:02:40 I'm a simple-ass nigger. Bro, bought me all this dripping shit. The homies are fucking tripping. I was really gonna, bro. I'm a simple nigga. Like, I don't care for the flashy shit. Bro's like, nah, bro. If you go on a new jump on some shit, bro, they bought me on this shit.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Yeah. Welcome back, Poetic. So what we got with the. Have we made any progress on the list? We're waiting for you, brother? What was going for you? I gave you my 25 to 20. No, true.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Hair. I bet little hair, right? Celush, like what's your 25 to 20? Oh, sweatshirt's not on the list? No, he's there. He's an option. He's an option. He's an option.
Starting point is 01:03:16 He's an option. That nigg is a lyrus. It's like a motherfucker. You might not be that. Sure. Well, let's find our 25 to 21st, though, right? His influence, right, dear. So let's your 25 to 20.
Starting point is 01:03:27 What did I say again? I said, Exhibit, Jacka, Be Real, O3, and YG. I think it was my 25. No, you didn't say that. Shout out to old Nas, Alex, in New York, but he has influence, but we're not going to put him nowhere in the top of the New York. Sure, sure. And that's why certain things.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Sure. Sure, right? Here, no, sure. So, O3. Yes. O3, O3, cool. So, so far, like, that's the first consensus he's going to list, right? Or got to be at 25.
Starting point is 01:03:57 YG is also on the list, right? Yes, and we can move people up and down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Facts. I look. So look, okay, so is O3 there, is Mazi there for sure? I think Mazi and YG, in my opinion, got to be moved up. No, no, no, sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:04:19 I didn't even put Mazzi in mind, did I? No, no, no, sure. I didn't either. Yeah, Mazzie go up. That's right. No, no, sure. To be honest, I don't have Mazzi and my top 25. I have another Sacramento artist. Okay, cool, cool. Hey, right, right, cool. No, I mean, that would have been higher.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Here, right. I'm seeing it. I'm sorry. I'm seeing it. My brother Lynch. Well, wait, before we continue, are we talking about just a culture for L.A.? Come on. No, so. Worldwide. No, no. However you feel. Right? It's good that you're here as someone
Starting point is 01:04:46 that's not from the West Coast. Because in New York, we bump Mazzi, like, 03. Yeah, yeah. We don't really listen to him out there. Shout out to him, though. Sure, right. Here, right, so let's just write, like, here, right? So let's just find, right, who the consensus are and put them on the list first, and then debate the ones who are consensus, okay?
Starting point is 01:05:04 Let's go 20 to 15. All right, you're going to put your five, or you're going to... Oh, no, love, we're going to act, right? Hey, right, so look, it's Drake consensus for everybody. Yes. Cool. Yes. It's cube consensus for everybody.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Yes. But he's higher than that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, we're just plenty of eyes. Yeah, yeah. It's loop consensus. Of course. All right.
Starting point is 01:05:25 It's Pockercese. Yes. Of course. All right. Wait, Lush. Wait, who is this? I, oh, my God. Razzcast.
Starting point is 01:05:32 In Raskas. He's been, Cesar says, I'll say he's very, he's going to say, you gotta think he'd be living long. Raskas was something.
Starting point is 01:05:41 You got to think back then, like it was. In 1996, Razz Cas was the hardest rapper in the world. I'll say, he had a run, the hardest rapper in the world. Sure, right.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Here, right, sure, right. Solos. When the Solon. Let's do like the consensus, though, right? Yeah. I don't have Razz, and that's my homeboy, and I love him. Sure. I don't have him personally in the top 25.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Me neither. It was based... He's not as easy. Yeah, he's definitely a top 50. Now, if it's based strictly on lyrics, Razz is for show higher on the list, but that's not what we're basing it on. So I don't have Razz, for his person.
Starting point is 01:06:13 You asked this, I bet. So... Magdray? Yes. Magdray is true? That's a fact. That's a fact. We fuck with him in New York, too.
Starting point is 01:06:23 I, he's the reason. Keep asking Lush, just go that the line. Well, no, no, no, I thought that was, that's Magpie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's Warren G, no. Of course, yeah. I don't have Warren G. No, he can be there.
Starting point is 01:06:34 I don't have personally Warren G on the rapper list. He's on the producer list. Yeah, yeah. NWA, so like that encompasses so we can't include NWA as like an artist. Sure. Separate it. Sure.
Starting point is 01:06:49 I have EasyE. Clearly, Cube, E, E, and Dre, are on that. list. Yeah. But ah, man, if it come to just Chapin, ah, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait. They got to take a back seat. But just like, whoa, wait, sorry, but just like, go down the list, right? For us to find out who the consensus are.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Okay. Is that fat, is that Jack or Fab? Uh, Jacka. That's Jack's, I had Jack in 25. I say he's not consensus, so that's a move on. Yeah, that's, that's a dramatic right there. But yeah, so, yeah. 40, yes. Is he consensus?
Starting point is 01:07:19 Yes. Yeah, of course. I'll say, yeah, man. I think it's short consensus. Two short, too. Okay, perfect. So two short is consensus. What are you going to?
Starting point is 01:07:29 I think, I mean, Be Real should be, in my opinion. I'll say he's not a first ballot in Hall of Famer yet, so we're not going to say like he's consensus. So let's move on. Who's not a Hall of Famer yet? I don't get how Be Real is on that list. Yeah, personally. Right?
Starting point is 01:07:41 Listen, Rush. He's not consensus yet in. That's probably, okay, because you don't agree. Correct. All right. Yeah. So, okay, so, yeah. Snoop?
Starting point is 01:07:48 Or is that brother Lynch? He says Snoop. He says Snoop. No. Lynch? Lynch. I have Lynch on my Litch. He's like, not consensus. I, keep going, Lush.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Be real, I have B. Real. You said no. I have Crooked Eye as well. All right. He's not consensus. Keep going. I have DJ Quick as well. He's Consensus. Sugar free should be, too. Sugar free is as well. Wait, wait, sugar free had the city on fire.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Sugar free is definite to me. I don't agree that he's consensus to 5 yet. What's the definition of consensus? Whatever. Blago what it do? Yeah, everyone agrees. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 01:08:22 Yeah, right? Yeah, right. So, for example, is we all four have to agree that they're, you feel me? Yeah. All right. So it's obviously, yeah. Obviously, yes. Okay, for sure.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Is that corrupt? Yeah. Corrupt's on the list. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. M&M had him on his list. Draco's on the list. He's on 25 for sure? Yes, no debate.
Starting point is 01:08:46 He's time five. So you got much of it and not Draco? For sure, okay. All right. Huh? No, I'm saying he No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nipsey is on the list.
Starting point is 01:08:56 He's on the list? He's not 25 consensus? Yes, sir. Yes, undeniable. No, huh, really? Let's talk about it then. I'm looking at the list. Okay, so like,
Starting point is 01:09:08 all right, all, sure, sure, sure. Yeah. Sure. Is Q's top 25? Of course. That's not the bit. Yes. Dre, we already have Dreherst.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Top three desracks of all the time, I feel like. It's spot and low top 25 Cutts out. No. You're sure, man? No, he's not. No, he's dope. Shows us with SBR, man.
Starting point is 01:09:26 You feel me? So, Drake... I... I really, I ain't top 25, but, nigga, if I'm gonna make a list and you put Munchy B, I'm for show. All. As Murchy B top 25, I say so.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Y'all say no. No. What? What song? What song? What song do everybody know? I can't say the actual name with a song. Hell not.
Starting point is 01:09:51 You can abbreviated or like insinuate it. Well, it's the, hello. You talk about the Stink Team this? This song to everybody? Yeah, that, you know, or the last lap, you know, was a song that actually, you know, that, you know, that, you know, that. You know, YouTube, how many streams? That, that impact.
Starting point is 01:10:12 How many streams do with that? How? I feel like for the city of L.A., L.Muchy beat is such a, a staple that is kind of hard to ignore the impact. You know what? But streets are different than rap.
Starting point is 01:10:26 What type of impact are you talking about? We're not talking about that. In terms of disrots, Munchy B is... We're cool, but you're just talking right now. That's what you do a lot. You talk. He's the best L.A.
Starting point is 01:10:38 diss rapper we've ever had. What? Yo, that's crazy. Even me being from New York, that's crazy. How? Who makes more poised Lastly, think of DJ Quiginick and a guy.
Starting point is 01:10:52 No, duh. Those are, no, no. Quick Q. Corrid. No, no, no. Listen. No, no. No, duh.
Starting point is 01:10:59 I'm talking about the last 10 years. Well, there's just one guy. I don't know if you heard of him. Mazzie and the filthy rich. Dess. You didn't need a head out? Mazzie was killing. Mazzie.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Mazzie was getting his niggas every song. Yo, Mazzie's nasty. Yo, Mazzie's been doing this shit for a hundred in him. Jaybo's on the list. He's consistent. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, right? He consistent. Wait, wait, wait, right?
Starting point is 01:11:20 He's consistent. I look. Here, right? So, Monty B is not consensus, so maybe we can add him, like, some to him. You could put him on your list. He's just not consensus. I look.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Just because they're not consensus don't mean we can't pick from him. You're going to make us the blackly haters or shit. It's not like that. I can reiterate he knows that. He must he knows his niggins and trover. Much he know he not top 55. I know. Next, next, next, next, next.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Next, next. So, Tadalcine. Well, Lush, just ask the list. I mean like, like, I'm not mad at. There's your consensus. He's a lot of science. He's very dope. I think he's top five.
Starting point is 01:11:56 It sounds like he's not consistent. He's not a rapper. I don't have Roddy or Ty is a rapper, bro. Tyler, yeah. Tyler, yeah. Just ask. Tyler, yeah. I don't think Doja's top 25.
Starting point is 01:12:09 He is. Okay. She can be flirting with it. Consensus means that everybody agrees. So, so. But now it's biased. No, what do you mean? No, what bias or have against Doja cat?
Starting point is 01:12:22 She said, bro, that's like saying Kendrick's not in the, not consensus, bro. With his hands now, we put, I don't know that two songs from time. We can add people later to film you. All right, all right, all right. Let's just do like the, like the, like the, again, like the, like the, like the consensus right now. We could do, do the, if I'm a bet. Yeah, this fool's like crooked and not consensus too, so. I bet.
Starting point is 01:12:44 So, uh, is Kaelin? No, wait, what, sorry. Is he a yes? Is that Blas on the list? Yes. He's an R&B singer. Yeah, full. Blass now, bro,
Starting point is 01:12:55 Blas raps, my nigger. I say, get these R&B dudes off the list, bro, all of them. Is Kaelin a consensus? I want to add Kailin to this list. I don't. Ah, so you have consensus. And I like Kaylin.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Blass. I love Blass. No, he's not on the list. Brick baby. No. I'm sorry to say. I'll say no. Like, he's not a consensus.
Starting point is 01:13:15 But again, no. people like brick and Munchy B in terms of their impact terms of like the best disc rappers I would say this bro if I had to choose two niggas oh my yo listen
Starting point is 01:13:28 bro like make me a dis outside of like Kendrick I'm choosing Munchy B first and probably brick like right for me like Okay so we're going to ignore Draco's discracks We're gonna ignore RJ's discracks You can't ask Draco boy
Starting point is 01:13:42 because my niggas is rest of peace Yeah I'm just I'm just saying like but like He's all-haired. Yeah. He's all-A. His tracks, RJ? Draco and Sizzes.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Whoever goes against that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. The facts. I look, is Zol-Sama a top 25 consensus? Currently, yes.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Not of all time. No. Yeah, I'll say no. So you say no. Not of all time. There. I put it. We go crazy from in New York.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Is Rucci top 25 consensus? Say it again? We go crazy from New York. The fact. He's consensus. I mean, Billy Island. Billy Island said that she loves Zoh Osama.
Starting point is 01:14:17 I say no right now. He's really winning. Consensus. I agree. Is Wushi Top 25 consensus? No. Not if Zoh, eight? No.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Is Vince St. And that's my little bro, too. I think Vince. I say yes. Vince is close. I also have him. I don't have him as top 25. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Uh-huh. It's top 25. Yeah, yeah. This is top 25. Yeah. You can put him in there. Well, I say yes, but let's say no. So.
Starting point is 01:14:41 I don't have the top 25. Is J-Rock top 25? Consensus. They're killing you. All right, man. Why you ain't go to schoolboy? We are next, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Anderson Pack? No. Yeah. As an artist, yes. He's a podcast. But he's the most accomplished nigga. Like, he's like five Grammys. And I'm, ten grameys.
Starting point is 01:15:01 He's been knowing Anderson. He's been having a shot. Let's fool with his logic, bro. His logic about logic is so illogical. No. Eddie West Coast? He's from Baltimore. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:13 He's been living here for so long. I bet. Tell me where. I'm just funny. It's School Boy Q. Listen, though. Is School Boy Q top 25 consensus? Close.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Right? Brits. He said, school boy, yeah. Yeah. You? Yeah. I'm not mad. We can put in there.
Starting point is 01:15:29 No, lush. We could put him there. I personally didn't have him. Okay, so no. I bet. No, hold on. Hold on. We could put in there, though?
Starting point is 01:15:37 You said no to school? Yeah, no. He has to go there. Because, listen, School Boy Q is from the trenches. He didn't go to. G-fuck route he did like you you I think that they didn't keep it strictly bullshit as lyrics but he said no so so you don't fuck with it I'm like what is that mean
Starting point is 01:15:54 you like that simple ass laid back ass shit all your shit is giving what two three and to the four we're not hell no bro what we're doing that crooked eye look at all the shit we rejected pay attention hold on hold on what we have RASCast. I didn't have Razzcast.
Starting point is 01:16:16 I said he was close as well. What I'm doing is looking at the overall history. You feel me? And to do that, there's a lot of one, two, three, into the foe. You can't get the five. You can't get the five and off six off without one, two, three into the fuck. That's your show.
Starting point is 01:16:30 That's your name. You've been here a long time. I'm just saying, exactly. Yeah. But please. Okay, Rast. Good word Q is not consensus yet. Not consensus yet.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Is Earl is. Are you serious? My opinion My opinion is different Please, wait, please Is Earl Is Earl Consensus with us for it?
Starting point is 01:16:50 Y'all probably don't listen to them Out here, but in New York At one point in time We was fucking with Earl Oh That's a debatable comment right there What? To his side
Starting point is 01:17:03 Earl... Last two real quick, the please, bro Matter of fact, Earl, no No, no, no Where is Kendrick at? Yeah, where is Kendrick? He's here somewhere, right? I don't see him.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Oh, okay. Is Tiger? No? What? What do you mean, though? Influence? Culture? Wait, please.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Tiger? I told you what's going on. Please, please. That goes to be trashed, but he didn't have influence. God, last one real quick, though. Is Mazi consensus? No, right? Mazzis is the top time right now.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Yeah, he is. With hair, though. Kendrick, we have to add Kendrit. Like, once a. second. All right. Kentress, I mean, Tiger's really, nah. I'm not saying I bang his music. Tiger is a part of the culture, man.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Tiger started this shit. Like, him and YG started a wave. YG really started it. Tiger got it mainstream, bro. Oh, the dead hubbies. You can't do that. Like, that whole era was Tiger. Everybody was trying to make a remake of a rock shit. Dead hubbies. Look, Tiger.
Starting point is 01:18:07 That niggas from every region wanting to get on the motherfucker. He the reason why we got a yolo from Drake. That was not true That's 100% true That was Tiger Flow at the time What are you talking about Wait, wait, wait, look, Russell You already know that
Starting point is 01:18:25 So look there, right? So look there, right? Yeah, everybody Every day. That's T raw, nigga. Here, right? Here, right. So look, we have about, I think, like, 18 right now, right?
Starting point is 01:18:36 So let's put them in order, right? Just real quick, though, just real quick. As far as that record, just referring to it, have you ever heard Tiger reference or make allegiance to the Bay Area to that degree in a way? Hold on. I'm saying that the flow was his. I didn't say that he wrote it.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Okay. The flow, the cadence, the tone that Drake used was Tiger. That's the fact. If you close your eyes when it first came out, you would have thought it was raw. Now, facts. Here, right, butth, we can get back to a one. I think it had a kind of HBK-ish vibe a little bit. HBK wasn't really in Bowman yet.
Starting point is 01:19:17 No, it's like right before. Yeah, right, but we can get back to the ones who. Here, right, right? Yeah, right. So, here, right, so, look. So we can do, like, the ones who are, like, who are not, like, consensus yet, right? But let's first do the ones who are on the list, all right? And then put them in the order.
Starting point is 01:19:34 So, so, okay, so who's the top five? Pock. Pock, Snoop. Snoop Pa Do a do a I don't know But like as far as backpack
Starting point is 01:19:46 Raping my cousin Broca Ganga Records, bro Kidig broke a gang of records No no no No I don't even know He was so telling As far as consensus though
Starting point is 01:19:58 Yeah right no We're gonna debate like the ones Like here right Right here right But for now I like doing it this way Paws Yeah yeah yeah yeah So now though
Starting point is 01:20:06 So Brick your top five, Brit? Out of that? Let's go go Snoop number one. Snoop, 40, Mac Dre
Starting point is 01:20:19 Oh. Kendrick and... All the time? Yeah, yeah, that's all the time. Kendrick and Pop. Wait, so Snoop, Mac, Mac, Dre, 40,
Starting point is 01:20:33 Kendrick and Pop. Lush. Who's your top of? That's pretty solid. Lush. Pock, Snoop, 40, Kendrick. Pock Snoop 40, Kendrick. And, yeah. Pock, Snoop 40, Kendrick. And let's say...
Starting point is 01:20:54 Who else, love? Let's say, Cube. Are you? Who? Snoop, Pock, 40, the game, and... Snoop Pock 40. The game. And Mazi.
Starting point is 01:21:09 All right. So, okay. So, Snoop and Pock goes in the top, top of short. Snoop. Park 40, no? Wait, wait, wait. I think Snoopock and Kendrick is who goes. I won't put E40 above ice cube. You feel me? But that's me. Here. So I said cube, you said Q, you say Q, you say Q, you say Q, right? Kuse. I never say a Q. You didn't say Q. All right, so who bricks, say again. I said Snoopach 40 Or MacDren, Kendrick.
Starting point is 01:21:42 I'm sending 1040 for Q. A Q. All about, cool. So Snoopac Kendrick for sure. Yeah, right for me? And those are the three. Yeah. So, what's the order of these three?
Starting point is 01:21:55 Kendrick's third. That's like how it is right there. It's in the order. Two-Paw. I'm going with two-po. This is my order. I mean, Tupac didn't really, I would have to probably put Snoop number.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Still talking about Tupac 30 years later. Yeah, that's the fact, though. It's 28 years later. If Snoop Dogg was in Tupac spot, we would have been talking about Snoop Dog 30 years later. Sure. We didn't get to, we didn't get to see Tupac fully awesome. He was already a menace. He was already a black revolutionary.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Like, we was hearing, he was. I think Snoop was too. Snoop was it. Snoop was not at that point in his life yet. He was still stirring the pot. Snoop didn't know what he was. Yeah, yeah. Luke was still doing, like, acting like a pimp and doing all this.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Snoop didn't really like. The first, like, appearance on an actual single. He wasn't reaching out to the community like that. He was, he was 19 years old, banged out, you feel me. Pop number one. No, by the way he wasn't reaching out to the community like that yet. Sure. On it now, and he's like, yeah, he's a statue of this.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Look, Russell, look. I look, I look, so he said Q, I said Q, and Y'all 2 sell 40. I, I, cube and 40 is money. We could put Cube and 40 up there, that's fair. No, no, no, no, no, right, no, right? Because I say game and you said game two, right? Yeah, that's the five. Yeah. Top five?
Starting point is 01:23:14 Yeah. Yeah, but. Yeah, right? So, look, so, so right now, like the top five, we have to say it, right? Is we have, like, three names left. We have game 40 and Q, so we have to pick two for Addo's. We all know game. Give them to me top five.
Starting point is 01:23:33 No, no, no, no, no, he does. Because game. by himself never built that umbrella that we're looking for in order to put him in the top five. In fact, he failed to do so. That's all it is.
Starting point is 01:23:48 And no, it's not a shot at him, but he didn't do. We were waiting for him to build that umbrella, like, to be in the top five. And it's like, ah. And this is a dude with, like, arguably, like, three or four classic album.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Graddy, he was most hated, like myself. You know what I mean? Niggas hated, nigga. Yes. He was hated out of him. The game passed 17. Oh, my. Back there, him.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Like, whenever you're talking to town, everybody is. He has 10 and one top 10. Okay. What are we talking about? The game ain't been what. Oh, guess what? But guess what? All of the independent.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Look, E40s, the vast majority of his career was independent, bro. And he was signed to Jive when he was, and then he got a joint venture with Warner Brothers in 2006 when the hype he hit crack off. But prior to that, he was with Jive. And he was sick with it records. All these niggins how to grind independent. short showed us. There is no top five list without E40. The only omission
Starting point is 01:24:44 But regardless, listen, but look but regardless of the difficulty, I can only judge the final product. And the final product is We have regional, hold on. But the game is more accomplished. So you're being independent, how much shit went unscanned?
Starting point is 01:25:00 What are we talking about here? Sure. What went unscanned? This is not now where you still upload through distro kids and you nigger can track your songs every movement. What's the most expensive city? The game is more skilled, right? What's the most expensive city to live in the
Starting point is 01:25:15 United States? LA, New York, and Tokyo. San Francisco, California, right? The Bay Area is one of the most impactful and important regions in the United States. E-40 is the figurehead for this entire region,
Starting point is 01:25:31 and they look at him like he might as well be Jesus. Let's look. Let's look. Look, so look, look, Lus and now look, skills,
Starting point is 01:25:41 accolades, and influence. E40 has the influence, but I think the game has to accolades and he's more skilled. So what do we even like to discuss with it? I think he could agree with that.
Starting point is 01:25:52 I'm not going to be. Yeah. You know, but how many words has the game started in life? E40 has started. The Gets a better rapper, bro.
Starting point is 01:26:00 All legal. You don't think the game is a better rapper? I agree with you in there. You don't think he was. You don't think he was. I thought what? I thought what? He 40?
Starting point is 01:26:08 Yeah. Brother, Gayne ain't a better rap couple. Look, look. Look, from a tradition of my hand on. He has an East Coast swag. Well, he was my favorite rapper when he was out. I'll give you that.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Here's the thing. From a traditional hip-hop perspective of what people judge skill set on, which, by the way, is very deeply rooted in East Coast buyers. But he wasn't. Because obviously, that's the mecca shots in New York, right? But, you can relate to games lyrics over there. Because he was exactly. He came in. Game has a much more...
Starting point is 01:26:38 But the skill set... The skill set that E40 embodies as far as originality, as far as character, as far as painting pictures, coloring outside the lines, he's a template for... You want to talk about influence? There's no wider net that has been cast.
Starting point is 01:26:56 He's more influential, so please tell me how, again, he's more successful, more accolades, or he's more skill. Because, again, there's three categories here. Skill set, network. accolades and influence Check out how his life played out
Starting point is 01:27:07 The game And more feel To have more music accolades Go check out how his life played out The game By the way The game is also From where
Starting point is 01:27:16 Down here Where the entire industry is at You feel me The Bay Area With a Drake cosine But we can't With a difficult You know
Starting point is 01:27:23 And by the way Had to go to the bay To even get his fucking deal Because it was for him Going up there And fucking with JT And then
Starting point is 01:27:33 You feel me That's a That's Friscoe Let you know your shit. Come on, regardless of the difficulty, though, we have to judge the final product. That's the fact, too.
Starting point is 01:27:42 The final product is a game is more skilled as a rapper and he has more music accolades than E40. How is E40 better than a game on a clip? Hold on. If we throw a concert solo, just a game or just E40 right now and day, who's selling more tickets?
Starting point is 01:27:58 Are we talking about worldwide? No. Where? Game probably. Where? Where? L.A., New York? No.
Starting point is 01:28:04 Maybe in New York. New York. Not even in LA. Game, for sure. Not in LA. No, not even the LA. Nigger, E40 might fill up an arena, nigger. And let's also take something else in the consideration.
Starting point is 01:28:13 You're crazy. E40 has records that go back to the 80s. And the game is going in the top 10. So I'm not arguing in the top 10. No, no. But I can't put him in front of 40 in Q. Right? So those are the three that we have to figure out who,
Starting point is 01:28:28 what's one of those like kids left out? And I'm saying, bro. Not Q. Right? Not Q. Not Q. So Q is definitely Yeah
Starting point is 01:28:37 Cuban solidified Listen, I think the game Listen, the game has to go with You're the only one Say it No, no No, no
Starting point is 01:28:45 No, it was us too for the game And then I guess We got to the chat Maybe Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah Where's the chat
Starting point is 01:28:52 Yeah, no, no No, no, no No, no No, Can't do the chat, Right, Because this is our like But you can't
Starting point is 01:28:57 Hold on, Hold on, Real quick, Real quick, You know, Your Witz-Cove is not valid at all He just turned
Starting point is 01:29:03 The Pops Smoke's brother He's on my podcast has seen biological brother he just says something in the chat sure hey right but listen bro again bro like like it feels like yo we love e40 more so e40 is over the game but if we're again a poll up long lasting career again bro it three categories here 40 might have it right boss how but we agree Bro, what? I'm fucking with, but, but look, but like, Blanco.
Starting point is 01:29:32 Because, look, Blanco, Flaco, Flaco, Flaco, Flaco, listen to me, listen to me. Like, just what, Blackmore. After the GEO, not shit, no, listen, because I'm all for you. We're on the same team, but after the G.U. Not shit with the game, where did his career really go after that?
Starting point is 01:29:47 When him and GUN that kind of fell on. But he thought he was still, he thought he was still on. Look what he just said. Thank you. One African kids. That nigga said, But, again, he got the influence part, yes.
Starting point is 01:30:00 E-40 in the game? Yeah, bro, again, bro, is his more influential. That's what we were trying. Because we could have just did like a point. If we could do a poll just to get a consensus between the game and E-40, that'd be fair. No. But who do you think is winning the versus?
Starting point is 01:30:18 Everybody's going to. Everybody said 40. Yeah. I think the game would get it in the versus. I don't know about it. In a birthday? How you're tripping? In a birthday?
Starting point is 01:30:30 All right, name five game songs that's going to send the shit off. In matter of fact, let me make that a little more difficult. Because niggins go say, timer, timer. Let me hear you say. Sprinkling me, right? Let me fucking sprinkle some game on y'all. Nick is going way back. That's when you're going to go way back there and then keep it.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Catalog wise, look, here's the thing, right? You say that you got it, you know. So if I'll, I'll. Let him. Hey, the players ball. Come on, man. So is there a game song that doesn't feature 50 cent that is impactful? We already, no, we're going to stop talking.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Come on to the next. We got to the next. We did a poll. Don't worry about it. The poll telling the truth. 40s, decades. He had hits in the 90s when the game was in junior high. We'll do this for the console.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Wait, wait, wait, right. So look, look, right? Wait, here, right, so look. Bugging. Wait, right, so look. As we plan on posters and saying, yo, this is the no jumper list. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Right? So, right, if the fans choose, then it's, like, right? We're not, like, why do you override us, nigga? No, we're both saying that in the game. They fucking would. They fucking would. What's your lodging for E40?
Starting point is 01:31:47 I'm something. We just told you a million things. And you like him more and, like, he's more influential. No. It's more than influential. And also, you can't. But there's three categories, right? You can't want it.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Who sold more records? Just put it with a lot. The game. Right now, no. Just type in that. Who sold more records to date, period? Not one song, not all that shit. Who sold more records to date?
Starting point is 01:32:08 Overall. Overall. Cool, okay. Total sales. Okay, perfect. How many records? Regardless. I'm going to give a E40.
Starting point is 01:32:16 You don't got a search style, bro. Bro, skill set. I'm not going to, I don't listen to E40 like that, but E40 got it. I got it. I got an important. To answer to your question. skill set is not just skill set is not just
Starting point is 01:32:27 skill so yeah come on bro what are I'm talking shout out shout out Chuck
Starting point is 01:32:34 shout out Chuck hold out shout out I'll give it to it what's like come on that's not it's not it's not even a
Starting point is 01:32:42 contest I'm down there ready to call this nigga I didn't want to here's the thing I'm gonna I'm down there
Starting point is 01:32:49 I'm down there I'm down the ass game like hey bro you feel like you go before a photio he would say no
Starting point is 01:32:54 he's going to He was saying no. He was saying no. Can we call Wack 100 right now, bro? Ask Wackman. No, we can't. Why? Because he obviously is going to say his artist.
Starting point is 01:33:02 What do you mean? Why not? You call it? Wait, who is what we came up with? And it keeps saying Foti in the chat. Everybody's saying Foti. Wait, who do you think? Who do you think what was said?
Starting point is 01:33:15 No, one thing. Adam is a tiebreaker, by the way. What the fight? What is the time breaker? But here's the thing. But here's the thing. Skill set is more than just bars, delivery punch lines.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Skill set is being able to transcend generations and stay relevant in his 50s. If E40 and game both dropped a single today, he outsought him by double. What are we discussing here? Because of fucking 50. Because of a fucking G-unit,
Starting point is 01:33:41 dog. You're fucking 50 from that. But we are dealing with unscanned and scanned. This is once again, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, 40 was bringing in spending. That's who? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:33:53 You, Adam, listen, bro, we're on live right now. Sorry, Jack. This is an electoral college. And getting real heated right now, real animated. Hey, so pretty much, bro, we're on like number five right now. And it's between E40 and the game. And it's like Dad Ty Adam. So you're the tiebreaker, bro. Who goes into top five, the game or E40?
Starting point is 01:34:15 Oh, I'm saying the game all day. Oh, okay, thank you, Adam. Thank you, bro. What? I knew it. I knew it. Of course Adam has the wrong. Why the game, Adam?
Starting point is 01:34:25 The game shook the country, E40, all the respect in the world, but that was a regional wave. Like, I just, I don't think you can compare the impact of the two. Okay, thank you. Adam, I go crazy right now. Hey, Pete. Adam, I love you, both. Just so you all you know, Adam set the game. I mean, so, okay, best.
Starting point is 01:34:44 So E40 is like, like, look. Wait, wait, what's the remote? Oh, sorry. That's cool. Hey, chat, we just got money. Don't even trip. You haven't seen what happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:56 40 or 6. Okay. Okay, so now we have to do... Now we have... By the way, just to run up. Three East Coasters. Three East Coasters just determined. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You really like, three East Coasters. Yeah. All right. Set. Bill 8. Look, look. When we post this, I definitely be in the chat.
Starting point is 01:35:16 But one after this says, like, E40 accolates, selecting politics. Okay, cool. Now we've got to do the 6 to 10. So it's E-40. So, Brick, do your 6-10, Lush, you next, and you next to, then I'm next, Rick. Look, so I got 40 then.
Starting point is 01:35:36 That's so crazy. My shit is Gabe. No, no, no, no. Now. You're right, man. I just said, Gabe. No, but I don't like that. So right there, we call it 40 game right now.
Starting point is 01:35:51 All right, okay. All right. So, E-40 and who's next? I go easy, quick. Okay. Ah, man, Nip and Drake. All right, so easy, 40, quick, Nipsey, and Draco. All right, lush, so who's your top?
Starting point is 01:36:14 Well, sorry. I'll say quick is a... Six, yes. I agree with quick. I mean, obviously, yeah. So we got 40, which is blasphemous. It's six. I'm gonna say two short at seven.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Oh, shit. Hold on, hold on. Let me go back. Wait, okay. Let me go back. My bad, my bad, uncle short, red. From six to ten. Because he was down there about time five.
Starting point is 01:36:35 So it'll be 40 short. It'll be 40. I would just put five. I'll line them up together, but it'd be 40 short, easy, quick. 40 short, easy. See, this is what I'm saying, fool. and you're like, oh, you're a G-Funk. Listen.
Starting point is 01:36:55 I'm saying, what I'm trying to tell you is what we got to work with. And this is, it's cool to. Where Dre at? We can't keep doing Dre like that. That's what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:37:07 He's right here, though. He's right. He's right. You're sweet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Dre. From a six to ten that let you go then let you go.
Starting point is 01:37:14 All right. So, look, it's 40 Dre, easy, quick. 40 Dre, easy, Quick and who else? Oh, they're short. Too short. Lush?
Starting point is 01:37:25 I got two short. Okay. So 40, two short. Mack Dre. Let's just get that out the way right there. Oh, man, Mike was in my top five, though. Brick? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Matt was in my top five. Wait. Go ahead. That's mine. It's mine. Wait, so Dre or like Dr. Drake? Who's your, because you said Dre?
Starting point is 01:37:47 That means that I honestly, bro, if I do it and I, because I keep on forget, you're not putting all the pictures. right here. No, no, no, no, no, no, yeah. Oh, because they already lined up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, it's like I'm thinking that they're, all right. Well, so, yeah, one more time. Okay. It goes 40,
Starting point is 01:38:02 Drey. Uh-huh. Easy. Which Drey? It's Dr. Drey. Okay, 40, Dr. Drey. Easy. Okay, easy. Mack Drey.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Okay, Mac Drey. Too short? Too short. All right. Lush? So, yeah, 40, two short. Mac Dre. We're going to say Dr. Dre. And we're going to say,
Starting point is 01:38:31 this is really close between DJ Quick and Draco for me. It's kind of like either way. So we'll say Quick for now. You feel what I? All right. So mine's, for me, I would say, bro, I don't even want to put, I guess E40 has a six spot since, you know, he was, right? He has to.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Yeah, yeah, right? so yeah so for me is and just know that like that y'all entire region of the country he hates C-14 we know we both know not not now look for me is is E40
Starting point is 01:39:06 is Dr. Dre I can't believe this is Dr. Dre is Dr. Dre is too short so so we have to move up so so we move Two shorts of consensus I don't think anyone's right with that
Starting point is 01:39:19 All right so Dre and too short doesn't just put his EF out of the way So I'll say What? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, right? These are consensus so far. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, look. So I'll say E40
Starting point is 01:39:32 Dr. Dre. I'll say Mac Dre. Cool, I was going to say, I figured I was going to have to fight you up. No, yeah, yeah. Too short. Yeah. And I would say,
Starting point is 01:39:48 bro, Tyler, man. man. Over easy E? What the fuck? Tyler, man. He like, have more accolades. Right? All right.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Here, look. Yeah, right? So look, so I said Magdrey, and you said Maghry too, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tyler over Nipsey? No, no, no, no, no, no, sorry. So, right?
Starting point is 01:40:20 So, here, right, so who's your top five? Sorry, sorry, from a 6 to 10. Yeah. All right, 40. EasyE, Dr. Dre. I'm going to say Nipsey and Ozzy. All right. So we don't have a consensus number 10.
Starting point is 01:40:39 But let me get this straight though that. Tyler has a better, a bigger audience to them. But that's just my personal preference, though. Wait, you? I feel like it's safe to say. And I feel. We don't have to go into that. I have to say.
Starting point is 01:40:51 I said quick belongs there, right? Yeah, I think quick belongs there. Wait, sorry. Did I say quick? Yeah, you did. Wait. I think, wait. No, I didn't put quick, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:00 Right? Where, Brickle? I said, we put, I said 40, easy, okay, both the drays. Okay. Yeah, listen, listen, I will put Tyler down for easy E. I bet. It could go like that.
Starting point is 01:41:22 It loves to you. I'm not mad at that. I was on a break of quick. I'm not mad at that, but I definitely need Magdray in that next year. No, no, no, no. It's right here. Oh, quick, quick, quick, true. Yeah, I feel like MacDray goes.
Starting point is 01:41:36 We all said MacDray, so he got to go over quick. That's something like everybody said. Here, right, I bet. Yeah, because I have put Uncle Shorthy. What's the order now from 7 to 10? So E40 is 6, so who's 7? I think, Dr. Drey. Here's the thing about Dre.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Right, right, right. Here's the thing about Dr. Dre. You for sure have to have him, you know what I mean, on this list. It's imperative. He's made the biggest records in West Coast history. However, he does get points removed for the fact that we know that he's never put pen to paper in his entire life. Sure. Okay. I'm not saying that, like, negates him from the list.
Starting point is 01:42:15 But you definitely, when we're talking, like the skills category. We talk about rap. Yeah. You get severely diminished. Although crafting records and having a great voice, Drew, is an amazing voice. I'm going to be real, though. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:42:29 He knows what bars to choose. Like, craft's amazing records. I'm going to be real, though. I did not know that. So if he don't write... How do you... Yeah, you didn't know that? Yes, you did.
Starting point is 01:42:40 No, like, never wrote it's crazy. Like... No, no, no. Never wrote his crazy. When that Q, like, right, right? So, at times, but I don't know that he never wrote... He always has right. He always has, right?
Starting point is 01:42:50 This was right. Q, EOC, M&M, JZ. Like, he, live the bobsters. Yeah, there's so many writers. Look, right? Look, because if the skills set is coming into question, then how is he above DJ Quick?
Starting point is 01:43:07 Eb-ed-D-D-D-J-Q-W. M-N-M, one of his, you know what I'm saying? Exactly, right. How is Dre above, how is Quake above, how is Dre above quick, you're saying? How because it's influence? Oh, your influence and accolades. Just because
Starting point is 01:43:22 That wouldn't be being affected. He is the West. To us, we fuck with Quick more. You're more likely to hear quick driving through the hood. For sure, sure, for sure. We're going to turn on something and listen to it for sure.
Starting point is 01:43:35 I did right. So who's eight? But Dre was featured on some of feet. He was on some shit. Of course. Me and easy guy number eight. Who's eight? I say, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:46 I agree to Easy E. I do that. It's eight. Lush. I would have short above easy, personally. Short or like easy eat, bro, because I say easy ee, like, who do you say? I mean, because I know what you say, short's grind and all that, but like easy. But the accolades the influence is something to eat.
Starting point is 01:44:04 Easy, like if easy wouldn't have passed away, bro. True. Although we do have to give too short credit for pioneering an entire genre. No, I said his grind is crazy. No, no, beyond the grind, the influence. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. Because there's no pimper. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Like, there's no trajectory that leads to Frosty, the snowman, and almighty. Yeah. No. But, do you listen. Hey, listen, man. That is the beginning of the lineage. But nobody listens to Pemp Rap. Like, outside of, like, like, outside of, like.
Starting point is 01:44:33 You said Pimp Rite? In 20204, bro, Pamp Rap ain't. Like, like, like. Going crazy. Like, it's. I'm about to have one of the hottest Pimp Rapprappers on. Watch, that nigger pro boy. In 2024, bro, Pemp Rap ain't Cracker.
Starting point is 01:44:45 And I get that, Chuck. I get excited. I don't know. I think Pamprap. They got a gang of hard Pimp rappers right now. Pair's don't kill me, brother. If I say you some shit, you're not going to be biased.
Starting point is 01:44:56 It's probably hard, but like, is it cracking, meaning like... Yeah, it's cracking like the whole city off. There's like... The stadiums of rap... I don't think so. The stadiums of rap is a bald station. Is sharp listening to Pimp rap or not?
Starting point is 01:45:12 Just regular shit. Yes. No, strictly. Do it for the rap? Like, he'd be slapping. I'm saying so we forgot about little B. Yeah, Lil B fuck number one. I'm fucking a little B.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Yo, no, I'm fuck. But it comes later, but let's still my room here. All right, Brick, Brick, Brick. No, Drew's the Lilley number one. Easy E, Magdray, are too short. Who goes eight? I'd take two short. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:44 So now we are at a dead time. I take it just like how it is. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. No, we're saying Easy E, so now we have to call out of it again. Oh, go easy. Go easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not a bridge.
Starting point is 01:45:56 That's not a debate. I can touch that. I'm going to, yeah, yeah. Of course, Lily. Thank you, man. I bet. Shout to John Lundres. Look then, the official top 10.
Starting point is 01:46:08 Pock, Snoop, Snoop, Kendrick, Cube game, 40, Drey, EZE, 2 short Mac Dre. Great top 10. Now, Harris, where. It gets tougher now. Game of number five is my biggest, like, issue. Who's your top 10 to 15? Brick?
Starting point is 01:46:24 I've never since now that's crazy. Brick, like, he's not there for me, but Brick it's on heel. Yeah. So it's definitely going to go, uh, quick nip. Grito. No. No, I got Drake over, Grito. Tyler
Starting point is 01:46:51 Yeah, yeah, I excluded Doja K. That's crazy. We can bring her back potentially, like remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. You could have her in, in fact, you could still put her in there, like. Corrupt. I never listened to Doja K.
Starting point is 01:47:09 I ain't know she was around her. Oh, shit. There's no room here about here. Hold on, hold on. Doja dumb nice. Hold on. We'd be in disrespect for her, though. You got a cube, quick, nip.
Starting point is 01:47:19 No, people already there. Yeah, yeah. Q. Oh, yeah. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah. Kibata just, wait, our best.
Starting point is 01:47:28 So Q is already here. He came twice. Pause. Even though I never listen to Hardoja has to be up there, though. Wait. He does. I do know all for it. But did you remove corrupt?
Starting point is 01:47:41 Why is corrupt? No, where's corrupt? Why do that? You just removed him? Was he like consensus? Yeah, he's the top 25. Because I got not up to that. Well, not.
Starting point is 01:47:50 I'll, wait, so, break is on you. So, so from 10 to 15. Yeah, so we're going to go. And then you next. We're going to go quick, nip, Tyler, Draco. Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. What, sorry, you said, quick, corrupt, Tyler.
Starting point is 01:48:18 I said, quick, nip, Tyler, Tyler, Draco, corrupt. I'll get that lush one. I'm a damn near echo that sentiment right there. I'm going to, yeah, I'm going to. The only change that I might possibly make, I might swap out corrupt for sugar-free at that point, but that's like- But he got bullied out. That's what I'm like, I'm only working with what I got.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Question for you guys, right? Wait, wait, all right. So what, okay. So- We can agree on Nip-Quig, Draco, O'Rae. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:48:49 No, no, no, no. I don't agree, right? So, I'm saying again, so what argument do you all have, right? Again, I'm not talking about, yo, I like this person more. Real objective, measurable, things we can actually, like, touch and actually point to for why Draco and Nipsey would be over YG. Oh. Grammys. I can't say that for Nipsey because I love Nipsey.
Starting point is 01:49:15 But I feel like they disrespecting him by wanting to do that after he passed away. When you want to look at his workout, I got nominated the year before, though. He did? Yeah, he did. Yeah, he got nominated for a few months. But the work Nipsey puts in and his catalog, I feel like you got it. YG has had the more successful career. And I believe that YG's had nominations.
Starting point is 01:49:36 I believe that there's a argument there. YG's been up under a label, a bunch of structure the whole time. So, yeah, he was passed out. He didn't take the horror route, like you said. So, yeah. Nifty two, right? No. No.
Starting point is 01:49:48 No. No. Denexie took the hard route. Game. Capital Atlantic, too. Yeah. ever listen to the full shit? Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Like, yeah, motherfucker's like literally. He was signed to Atlantic at the end. But they had a, he had a partnership, though. He was signed to Atlantic like early on. Nah. Nah. Like, he signed the one, he signed the epic or some shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:10 And then he got out of that. Well, Atlantic was a partnership. He got out of that. Yeah. I used to kick it with him every day. Yeah, listen to the original keys in the city. That shit was like a all. Yeah, I'll fuck with luck, you know.
Starting point is 01:50:22 Here, right, here. Hey, listen, right, listen, sure. Now, I only judge... Listen to the city is the whole story. He tells it right there. Look, though. I only judge the final product, right? I don't judge how difficult it was, meaning this, right?
Starting point is 01:50:34 That's cool. So that's your opinion. You can't talk me into what you guys. Sure, no, no, no, no. Sure. But, hey, okay, right, okay. So how is Draco above YG? Draco is above YG?
Starting point is 01:50:46 How? Because he is the most influential rapper in Los Angeles. Damn, there ever. You've never heard You've never heard Both niggas You've never heard both niggas Probably of all time
Starting point is 01:50:58 Cool You gotta sound You gotta count them in streams too And he's a significantly better rapper Yeah Nicky that's he's a bigger out there But New York They're gonna say
Starting point is 01:51:07 I'm not disagreeing with you guys Of course YG's a way bigger And it's a way bigger And it's a fan base out there Just so much like More successful That it's hard for me to say like
Starting point is 01:51:17 Like a dude who probably Like almost like I'll slow Draco by double or triple he's being like He had to take the Let's go off the first project sales then Yeah, okay Because Draco's career is not half as long as
Starting point is 01:51:34 As YG So let's go off of their first projects And Drakeo was the first album First songs they ever dropped How about that? That's not fair though Drakego Nika his first song
Starting point is 01:51:43 Mr. Gettoe That shit was viral than the motherfucker We're talking about before Trueers as a total Up to this point And before he tweeted and booted You feel me? YG was doing a completely different style.
Starting point is 01:51:57 We, though, have to discuss their careers into reality. He's a hook master, though. Yeah. He goes crazy on the hook. Lyricism, he's, like, very low. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But the way he puts together a song is crazy.
Starting point is 01:52:10 Yeah. No bias. The way YG puts together a party hit for Los Angeles, it probably ain't too many niggas that's going to get in there and make the club shake like that. The other says fuck with it, too, out there? I'm beat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:22 I'll go to politics Fools will have fucking YG If your song's hard, nigga's your op You be like, damn this motherfucker Yeah, why G's, like, Fake had fools Like that had nothing to do with Bloods and or even maybe other side saying
Starting point is 01:52:38 Bicking Back, you probably just just because of how, you know, like Tyler for short top five, right? But look though, look though. Yeah, I'm not mad at Tyler being there at all. Look though. So, if we are talking. I'm not mad at that.
Starting point is 01:52:52 YG over corrupt though. I imagine it's not really an argument. For sure is over corrupt. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Let's be objective. All right, for sure.
Starting point is 01:53:02 I'm not mad at that. Okay, bad. Now, I want to put, again, again, this may be blasphemous. He would have put him in the stance. You keep trying to drag him out the way. I think that Roddy. I don't think Roddy's a rapper. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:53:17 I feel like he's a rapper. Right, feel me? Why is Mazzies not? But Roddy ain't really reached out. Why is Scooooo not up there? talking about that. Who's a cute? Who has he?
Starting point is 01:53:27 No, no, no, no. So we're doing it like. Oh, okay. Cossus first. And then we can like talk about the ones like who. Roddy. Roddy is super dope. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:53:37 No, no. 2025. Okay. Listen to what I'm trying to say real quick. Roddy's super dope. But once again, he hasn't built that umbrella that everybody's looking for him. He hasn't. What have you made out of this rap shit but yourself?
Starting point is 01:53:50 And beyond that, beyond that since. Like, that's the. you know what I mean like that that counts bro like who else did you bring up like through your influence and whatever you doing like I know he was doing the anti-social shit and all that but that narrows you into just you know that's a career so you know sure but ahead right here right but
Starting point is 01:54:09 I think it's unfair to say that somebody with a diamond record YG is not top top top 10 to 15 when Draco is on the list but right you can't say because designer had a diamond record Yeah, what about... After the panda shit was kind of like his shit kind of died down. Roddy don't have multiple ears, though.
Starting point is 01:54:29 No, no, no, all right. Roddy was hot, fresh out. You ain't seen the nigga cool off as fast, as he. Hey, well, all that, right? That next album was trash. I'm like, back a little bit. I just heard some shit. I'm like, all right.
Starting point is 01:54:41 I like his new album. He got to go back to that. That's what I'm saying. Like, really... The real, like, I ain't trying to die young. Yeah, yeah. That's the Routty. That's what we want.
Starting point is 01:54:51 That's what we want. 1,000%. The bar. The box was like the pinnacle of that era. Then it's been like, yeah. I mean, as an artist, you can't always, you can't always, you got, you, you have to grow with your audience. That's down below.
Starting point is 01:55:03 People, people, wait, folks, listen. Folks, right? Listen, folks, right? Listen, right? Right. So, look, right. So, look, right. So, look, I'm not going to say who the artists are, right?
Starting point is 01:55:13 Mm-hmm. But one artist has 25 songs on Billboard. Two top 10 hits, two, wait, got two top tens. And two number one hits got a diamond record and then one artist never charted. Okay. Who should be like top 15? Okay, one of them is that's where the R&B shit comes in at. Who should?
Starting point is 01:55:34 Hold on. Hold on. That's when the singing shit comes in that. Okay. He's the rapper. Guess what then? Then I'll allow him to be, I'll stop fighting you. I'm even being on this list if he has better statistics than MC.
Starting point is 01:55:52 Hammer. Why A. MC Hammer and all Because it's not strictly a fucking sales list. And because people don't be slapping MC Hammer like that, fool, because that was pop music. Because I was in third grade slapping, you can't touch this. Because it was dope from the West Coast.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Too legit. Too legit. Too quick. Come on. You can't do that. You can't talk about this. Roddy did some shit that everybody can't do. He made it to the southeast region. And made the impact. So he's doing numbers like, thud. and all that. He made it to the easy, like little TJs and all that
Starting point is 01:56:25 that's played everywhere. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, like that's a different because of their voice. People want to hear that voice. That's all I felt like with Kevin Gates.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Kevin Gates came in a game as a rapper, but as he developed, and that's why I got respect to a lot of these guys. But he's going to sing on a hook, but he's going to rap. He could sing too. He's got to rap. But his singing is not the same.
Starting point is 01:56:46 It's not ready. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you mean by crooning? Like hitting notes, but not exactly, like, like he's not like I'm not saying he can't like sing like that but a lot of his singing
Starting point is 01:56:57 it's melodic rapping it's like similar to what Weasie used to do you know what I mean? It's in that same. Oh wait no sorry wait wait wait wait no no sorry I like Draco does have one which is the Tocet me record with Drake yep okay oh so you wait wait so you're
Starting point is 01:57:13 arguing about Roddy's validity over Draco yeah but here's a thing Drake's success can't be quantified What's the Drake and Radi feature No, no, no, Drake and... I never, what's the Drake and Roddy feature name again? I don't even... What was it called?
Starting point is 01:57:27 I don't remember. No, don't have one, right? Oh. I don't know something. But we are comparing a lot of people that... No, sure. That had to sell CDs out the chunk of they called. No, sure, bro.
Starting point is 01:57:37 Versusies guys that, you know, you could just upload something. That's the goat. YouTube all this shit. Oh, God Drake. Exactly. It's a different grind. Sorry, right. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:57:47 Sorry. Sorry. And Roddy has more hits than MC. Hammer. You got to what he means? He sold more records. He sold more records.
Starting point is 01:57:57 Off of one shit, though. But in terms of like the Billboard hits, which, meaning like their discography, Roddy Rich has more hits. More total sales. LaFlaco. No, sales wise being this, right?
Starting point is 01:58:08 Okay. So look, if he sold more off of one shit, right? But in terms of... So what you're saying is the box is more successful than any MC Hammer record? No, I mean, MC Hammer has the most
Starting point is 01:58:19 successful song. Okay, too legit to quit. I'm fucking, you can't touch you. Yeah, but the discography of who has the most hits on billboard is Roddy Rich. Yeah, but Roddy Rich never had a cartoon. Bro, hold on. If you were able to scan how many times too legit got hit back to back to back to back to back in the house and everybody in the house playing like they MCM?
Starting point is 01:58:46 Too legit. Oh, sick so, because. You cannot compare that. to break down that it's two different times. If MC Hammer, if MC Hammer came out when there was six hot, if MC Hammer came out when there was Sixth Street, can't touch it,
Starting point is 01:59:04 or they did a hundred million times more streams. No, no, sure, right, sure, right, but he's not a hammer and hammer for example, okay. So, so let's just talk about Draco right now and Roddy Rich, because I feel like two, two, two. Draco got it.
Starting point is 01:59:19 To LA, L.A. who they fuck with. With a diamond record and 25 top 100 records and 2 number 1st and 2 top tens and saying he's not being included on his list. He'd be number 20 and shit, bro. We're not doing that. But howled, Drakego only has one song? So you keep on play. He said, he said Drakego got it.
Starting point is 01:59:38 It's 3 to 1. But I'm fucking. But here's the thing, though, Flaco. I've never seen. What can be a different? Two different. A bona fide superstar rapper. Seeing that this is a no jumper list.
Starting point is 01:59:50 All right, call Adam. Call Adam. Call Adam for the timebreaker. Go ahead. And on top of that, on top of that. Wait, wait, wait, no. We already beat you. I'll fuck with Rowdy, but Draco got it.
Starting point is 02:00:00 He said, Drake got it. Why? Why? Tell me why? Bro, it's two different, it's two different streaming. It's two different streaming here. What do you mean? Rowdy got it a lot easier off the, off the TikTok and everything.
Starting point is 02:00:13 Filmer of the exact same air of 2019. Off the label. No. No, it's two different. No, it's two different. strictly independent. I loaded this song myself to thisro kid. It's two different things.
Starting point is 02:00:25 The quality is terrible. Yos Jeez came up here, right? Yos Jiz is off distro kid, but he still made it out out of there. He's not like the regular, like the universal label. It's different. We can never. seen Draco marketing come down your page.
Starting point is 02:00:42 Yos Jiz from New York Casson to a major distribution. You look crazy, man. And everybody, it's a lot of crazy. It's crazy. No, but like with. But a certain artist because of the nature of the way, how large the independent game is in the West Coast, you can't use sales.
Starting point is 02:00:58 For him to be in the top 25, he is great. Especially when the one song that you use to validate Draco's credibility is the Drake song, and there's not a single Draco fan that listens to that record ever. And that's my point of me. I don't know about that. Listen, Draco is a legend. Like, nobody.
Starting point is 02:01:18 Listen. And this is no disrespect to anybody. You know, obviously not. Yeah. But Draco is amazing. He's a legend. We all love Draco. Listen, we all love Draco.
Starting point is 02:01:29 Listen, we all love Draco. He's a legend. He is great. He's amazing. We know this. But to say that he makes it over somebody who arguably has a song
Starting point is 02:01:39 that goes down in the top five song, song, bro. Mariachi jam of the decade is crazy. My top off the song of the decade, which the box,
Starting point is 02:01:50 I'll take, literally, I'll take Mr. Get-Doh the first verse, Vranco's verse over Roddy Rich's entire catalog. Well, it's not objective, though, right? But, hey, listen, man. Maybe I'm weird. Hey, hey, hey, but hey, listen, man,
Starting point is 02:02:06 if he's there, then cool. So then I guess this is the top 15 to, no, 10 to 15. Yep. As fucked up as it sounds. So, who's 11? I just want to say something real quick. as fucked up as it sounds and I like
Starting point is 02:02:20 Nimsie as a better artist I don't listen to Tyler the creator shout to Tyler the creator he probably should be in front of the show he's supposed to be hired than everybody but he don't come outside sure I just wanted to say that he don't come outside until he wants to sell out the city he knows what the fucking do it
Starting point is 02:02:36 we mad then I guess we got to put Tyler right? You gotta give it to him who's 12 I mean quick no quick is so yeah I'm saying why I might say why I'm not that either way.
Starting point is 02:02:50 Yeah, yeah, for sure. Even though I like Quigley better. So 10, 11, who is 12? I like the way this looks. But, yeah, you can switch nip and drink. I like the way that looks. So IG is just going to just get like this. Yeah, he right did.
Starting point is 02:03:04 I have it like that. I think that's accurate. I like Nipsey better, but I don't know if I can agree with that. See, listen, man. I like NMSE better. At the whole city outside, bro. Like, Drake, you gotta go. He was a more likable person, bro.
Starting point is 02:03:23 Before the ops liked. YG looked up to Nipsey. He's like, didn't he say on a? He called him Big Bro on the fucking song. On last time that I checked. Outside of, I just feel, why would Drake will be above YG in terms of the 10 to 15? It got Nipsey, Drake, Y, G. Like, at this point, I'm confused, man.
Starting point is 02:03:44 Ask the city. Right. Because I don't know what the, like, what's the, like, what's the, like, I'm not from the city, so you're right, because I'm like, I'm like, but you're right. A brick,
Starting point is 02:03:55 I'm not in New York. Look how clean this looks politically with Quick from tree top, right there. Nicely sitting. And then you got tree tops. We got tree kept nestled, nestled in between the two tree tops,
Starting point is 02:04:07 in between the trees. We got Draco and Nipsey. You know, you know, Quick and YG from the same. Yes. Same block. I don't know that.
Starting point is 02:04:16 Okay. Four hunted. But Draco. wasn't a gay member. Well, let me ask you guys, I was just saying they from the same.
Starting point is 02:04:23 True, true, let me ask you guys, before Nipsey's demise and everything, like, in the city, like, he was on crazy. New York,
Starting point is 02:04:31 we fucked with him in New York for a long time, but yeah. That's why. That's why it was such a big deal. But who's 12th? It wasn't like, oh, we didn't care about this guy.
Starting point is 02:04:40 And he died all of a sudden and we're like, oh, we miss him. I think outside of L.A., that's when the media started picking up. That's a misperception, though. He was in New York, though, and Coulom, 164, bro.
Starting point is 02:04:51 Nanga, ooh, it was crazy for Nipsey. And I graduated in 2015. I'm 27 years old right now. We've been bumping him since, like, 2012, with him and French Montana made that track on Winston. And was Khalifa. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:03 I bet. Strong Island. And Big Sean. Yeah, man, so, right, right, and who's 12? Because we got, you feel, and we're trying to dip by, like, three. I, personally, I, like, I like the way it is. but if you guys, you know, I'm honestly not mad at any, I think it's really splitting hairs at that point. Yeah, like, there ain't nobody's going to be mad at that.
Starting point is 02:05:27 Yeah. I think it's going to be at the bad. Here's minds, okay. It's Tyler, quick, YG, Draco, no, sorry, YG, Nipsey, and Draco. And I'm not mad at that. So, like, so. I'm going to fuck with that. I'm going to fuck with him.
Starting point is 02:05:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, no, nobody's putting YG before Nip. I think this might be one for Adam. YG go crazy, though. Like, when you think about it, he do go crazy. YG is run. You talk about club, like, I don't know. It's too different, like, feeling.
Starting point is 02:05:56 Like, you can't get no motivation, but they can go pop a bottle with YG. Nip will get you up out of some shit. One thousand, like, but, like, but YG's run. That blue notes was crazy. 2011 to, like, I would say, 16, 17. YG was really. What should y'all say our favorite type of records? Like, storytelling or just whatever?
Starting point is 02:06:17 whatever mood y'all ones. Because he's not giving it to like these budgets that they're loaning him to make these great albums. Right. Okay, put it like this. And you got Drake features and you got this, you got that. Right. You need to go faster.
Starting point is 02:06:30 Just kind of like just. YG had a song called Meet the Flackers. We already told you what we think. YG trying to talk us into YG before then. We tell him what you fuck know. It's two to one. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, pause. So you are down for Dregal before Nipsey.
Starting point is 02:06:47 and YG. Like, that's what we're doing for the objective. No jumper list, right? I had Drake a higher than that. I got, yeah. I got, I got, I got Nipsey before YG.
Starting point is 02:06:57 I like that. Nip. Shout out to why. If you ask me, he's number one. You can't make me be biased. I'm not being biased. If you had been way higher in my opinion, I got Nipsey's number one.
Starting point is 02:07:07 I got Nipsey. But, like, objectively, like, so I don't know. Like, I'm just going with the flow for real. And now I'm being. real. I'm not, I'm outside of my feelings. If I got Nipsey this low, period, I'm
Starting point is 02:07:21 you know me? Wait, Paul. Like, so Nipsey is above a lot. Right? Obviously it's not above pot. Right? So Nipsey is above two pot, Paul. No, we know that. No, no, I don't know. Because I'm to make you short that we're not like, like, to me is
Starting point is 02:07:37 it's the hummy for my set, my everyday hell yeah. That's your own. Yeah. If he nipped in Draco. Right. I bet. That's what it to be. Digger, if I had to just go out of my shit. I, sure, I bet. I look. Incorrupt option with yel.
Starting point is 02:07:51 Right, look though. Right, look though. So for now, Tyler, quick, Draco, Nipsey, and YG. That right there is the top 10 to 10.15. I think this is really solid. And then go, Roddy, Grito, incorrect. Okay, so Roddy is number 16. Grito is number 17 and corrupt is number 18, right?
Starting point is 02:08:13 Yeah. Now. And somebody mad at that? Unless have Mazzies on. on that list from this point forward because from this point forward this is LA culture so I can't speak from the list down.
Starting point is 02:08:24 Nah, Mazzie go, Craig. But, Mazi... There's a not consensus one down, right? Yeah, now we can't do it. There's no more consensus. So now we can put the schoolboy cues in my... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, well, here, right? Right, right? Right?
Starting point is 02:08:37 20? Yeah, yeah. All right, back, back, right? Looked it right. So look. So now give me your your, this is 15, 16, you're 18 to 20.
Starting point is 02:08:51 So three more rappers, Brick, from 1520, and then Lush, and then you, and then meal, right? So who's your 18 to 20, brick? So those three spots aren't solidified right there? No, no, no, no, that's cool. It's 15, 16, 17. So
Starting point is 02:09:07 we're doing the 18 to 20. So, Brooke, you first. Who's a, sorry, who is, That's 16, 17, 18, right there. Man, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry. It's 16, 17, 18, right here. So give me 19 and 20, Britt. So 19 and 20 will be Mazzie and, um, let me see.
Starting point is 02:09:32 Look at it. Mazzie. Come on, we agree on that. And fucking Vince Staples. I respect that. I don't know who in there. I really want to say, shit. It's just so many people down there.
Starting point is 02:09:47 There's no way sugar free is not at the top of this list. Ludge, fuck this shit. Fuck this shit. About a crash out. I need sugar free. I need sugar free at 16, bro. Like, no.
Starting point is 02:10:02 Lush. Lush. We go, we're going to do. No, no, no. So I got sugar free. That's locked in already from me because that was like the consensus niggas. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 02:10:12 So it's the next. I don't agree with that consensus, but for the sake of sport, we'll say sugar-free is a necessity. So who is that 10-20 plus? Okay, I got sugar-free and I got, I'm going to have to look at my personal list because they're not reflected there. But sugar-free and let's say, I'll put Jacker right there then since you guys want to play these games. All right. So me. Damn, awesome, dude. Right?
Starting point is 02:10:45 So, again, me personally, my 19 and 20 is Tiger and Doja Cap. Right, you feel me? And... Damn, Tiger. You're supposed to be hired.
Starting point is 02:10:55 Right? No, he wasn't. Right? Yes, he was. No, he fucking wasn't. I was going to say, Taga than Mazi, but I feel like Taga should have been up to.
Starting point is 02:11:03 Tiger is a funny. Wait, wait, wait. We're now at an impasse. But, wait. Bro, fucking bottle service, music made the fucking groom, underage girls is not...
Starting point is 02:11:14 Tiger probably should have been higher than Tyler. If you ask to me... Two said Tiger, two set sugar free and one set Mazzia, right? Two said Mazzi. And two set Mazzi. Cool. So we get...
Starting point is 02:11:28 So we get... School boy Q! School boy Kew! And Vince Staples? But let's go, just please, right? Just like... Be real and brother Lynch. No, wait.
Starting point is 02:11:39 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. It's crazy. right now, brother, Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, right? So, listen, right? So, listen, right? So listen, right? So, listen, if we just go, right, just in order right now, two set sugar free, two set Mazzi and two set Tiger, which is why they are here.
Starting point is 02:11:57 Now, out of these three, who is 19 and 20? Out of those three? Tiger. Yeah. I love Mazi better, but I got to give it to TIG. Sugar free and sugar free. Tiger and sugar free and Mazzis. So we can say we. It's for sure Tiger.
Starting point is 02:12:12 I like the respect you. I'm out of both of you guys. It's for sure Tiger. It's my favorite. Tiger. Tiger is there. Listen to me is this, right? Right?
Starting point is 02:12:24 Listen, right? Listen, like, there's no argument that anybody in the world can make for why Mazi would be above Doja Cat ever. Yeah, Doja Cat was supposed to be higher. We are not. We are overly disrespect to Doja. Shout out to those. Well, she was not concessus.
Starting point is 02:12:43 Those are the bill on this list. Easy. He is rolling in his grave right now, bro. He's spinning in a circle. Brick. Brick, who's your 19thony? Just put your real nightstander. The headstone's about to pop off?
Starting point is 02:12:55 No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, so my 19. My list would be like this. It'd be, it'd be, it'd be Doge and Cat Tiger. It'd be schoolboy Q. And Mazzie sugar-free. No, just, it'd be Vince Staples and fucking be. No, no.
Starting point is 02:13:11 Yeah, be real. No, just two, no, God, please, just two, bro. Let's just two real quick. We just need 19-20. So, break. Well, he just said. Like, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:13:18 Who's left. Who's nothing? Because this is, right, yeah. We could finish it and post it later. No, no, bro, we just have to. Because we're rushing. No. Yeah, we're being, we're being HACC.
Starting point is 02:13:27 No, we'll be here for like 10 hours. We're being hasty. Wait, wait, wait. So, wait. It's already a biased ass list. Okay. Put time. I like our top 10.
Starting point is 02:13:36 That's what Nordrmer or Instagram is going to post anyway. No, no, look, look. Casual Gimauds. No, no, no, no, no, no, look, right. Three is crazy. Here, right, so look, right so look, right to look, right to look. Right to look. E-40 not top five.
Starting point is 02:13:48 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, right. So, so look, from one to 18, those were the consensus that we all said was top 25. I don't fucking got sucked in. They didn't give an order, though. Exactly, right, right? All right, we didn't give an order. We didn't give the order. Right, right.
Starting point is 02:14:08 We didn't say that they was going to be in the top 18. Right. We said that's going to be on the list. Correct. You get what I said. Top 25 consensus as yo. They belong. People who are listed here are folks we said don't belong in the top of 15.
Starting point is 02:14:22 I told you 25 was crazy. What if I said you don't belong? So does exhibit belong on this list? Yeah, definitely. Where's exhibit that? 25 leaves reasonable doubt. Be real, Cyprus. He'll have fucking five classic albums in a row.
Starting point is 02:14:37 I'm pretty sure they all. all went gold and platinum. Can we just choose right now, though, 19 and 20 lush? So Brits says, Dojoket and Tiger. Takeda-Lush, who's your night? Lush-Husers, you got to do that. Yeah. Sugar-free, and be real.
Starting point is 02:14:51 Exhibit, right? Yeah, I think Exhibit is like a top 25 for the show. No, bro. Yo, you didn't ask for a lot. You not do that. That was, that was weak, bro. We'll make our own list to take it. Like, that might go viral, bro.
Starting point is 02:15:05 To me, that's not even, like, a personal thing. Because he won't even make it. Like, nobody's going to say it. Like, we should have had him. And it should have been a different way to cast this. I think that the first 10 is very solid. Like, with a few, the number five discrepancy. We agreed, though, that 18 was consensus, right?
Starting point is 02:15:25 No. We, like, I mean, I've been willing to waiver on certain things. But those were the 18 that we all said, I, I, I, goes in top 25, right? So here's the people who said was not consensus They can be about the people who Who we all said was consensus I'm literally getting Like the numbers work bro
Starting point is 02:15:46 I'm giving y'all Roddy I'm giving y'all Roddy but I never was comfortable with him Yeah right right So now We finish the list and we run through the fan funding before we leave We're post the list Yeah I think we could go out there for this Yeah yeah yeah yeah so Lush who's like
Starting point is 02:16:05 Who's your like like like Who's your like who's your Again, like I said, I said sugar-free be real, but... Okay, sugar-free, be real, right? I had that. You, like, who's your 19-20? Oh. I like Mazi better, but Doja can't.
Starting point is 02:16:22 We could do Doja. We could do Doja. And I don't even listen to her, but it's her influence. Wait, wait, wait, wait, sure, right? Sure, listen. And I said Tiger and Doja gas. So what that means then? Right?
Starting point is 02:16:33 Right. Right? So then Doja? Tiger and Doja. And Tiger. had the most votes. I guess. I love you, Mazi, and I listen to you to you, but... I bet. So, I'll say, to TIGO Joe's
Starting point is 02:16:43 okay, right? Cool. And if it's Mazzie, sugar-free. I, Lush. We didn't even for being fair. Who's your last five? For 20 to, like, 25. And Vince? I got... I love Vince. I got Vince Mazzie schoolboy Q.
Starting point is 02:16:59 Okay. For sure. Okay. Let's see. Who's beyond it? So we can agree that school boy above Jay Rock then. Sure, sure. Yeah. I got B-real.
Starting point is 02:17:11 Vince Miles and School Boy, Q. Be-reel. And that, da, da, da, da, who are all right here left? His top three? I'm sticking with that, too. Let's go. So, Vince, Be Real.
Starting point is 02:17:26 Oh, Sugar Free. All right, wait, sorry. Yeah, sugar-free. You said Vince, Schoolboy, Q. I said, Vince Schoolboy, Q. I said, Vince, Schoolboy, Q, Miser, sugar-free, and be real. All, Lush.
Starting point is 02:17:36 Sugar free Okay Be Real Jacka Okay And Um Mazi No you need five left
Starting point is 02:17:45 Sugar free Be Real Jacka Mazi And We gotta be Vince School Boy Q We can say Q I would say
Starting point is 02:17:54 We can say you Over Exhibit Sure I'm gonna say I mean I did a Q definitely makes it We go get five
Starting point is 02:18:00 They see where I already said Exactly So school boy Q is ready On there I'm gonna say Mazi I'm going to say Vince Stables I'm going to say Earl's sweatshirt Okay
Starting point is 02:18:11 I said Mazzier already Oh and a break baby And I look And I love Earl But the reason I can't say Earl Is crazy larisces I love Earl but so is crooked eye And if we're not going to have crooked eye
Starting point is 02:18:28 And then we can't You know why I respect that? He said break baby I'm not bad I'm mad I respect that. It's just saying calm, like an exit 64. At one point in time, like Earl's sweatshirt,
Starting point is 02:18:41 he just went crazy for like all the city and shit. Doris and all that. Sure, sure. Hey, listen, so I say schoolboy Q, Vince, sugar-free, be real, and mozzie. Okay, so you say be-reels for show on there. As long as we got mazies on there. You say sugar-free is for show on there.
Starting point is 02:19:04 And like he said, like, Beero, too, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm back here. Let me. I just want to say, I'm sorry, Brother Lynch hung. I tried. You sure?
Starting point is 02:19:13 No, we don't. Actually, yeah, Be Rio's on there. I tried Brother Lynch. I know Brio was from out here. He is. I'm slow as fuck. I tried Cricket Eye. I tried, bro.
Starting point is 02:19:22 I tried Brother Lynch. Wait, I tried Jacka. So then, okay, who's, so that, like, who's 20? Sugar-free or Mazzie. Are we talking about the better rapper, Razi? Nah. You were above Mazi for sure. not sugar free rapes sugar free is the best rapper of all these guys what you got to listen to
Starting point is 02:19:40 my momzi was smug not he's good but mazzi as far as gassing yes from a different club he had gased sugar free is better than schoolboy kid he got his yeah i'm not i wouldn't put school board q though no i wouldn't put school set to paper wait pen to paper rapping like metaphor similees storytellate but that's the thing mazzi he He's a boss, Skowboy, Kill. Yeah, here's the thing. It's the same reason why, when you look at artists that are outside the box in abstract, like E40, like Sugar Free, you can't quantify them on the same skill sets that we use to judge most rappers.
Starting point is 02:20:19 They rap in cursive. You know what I mean? Like Young Thug wraps in cursive. You can't compare Young Thug to Rock Him. You know what I mean? You can't compare him to Cool G rap. He's not from that lineage. He's from the Andre's 3,000 lineage.
Starting point is 02:20:32 Who's 20 bricks? So, Squo Boy, Q, or Sugar Free? Oh, man. School Boy, Q. It would be like... It's crazy. Show the Uber some more, bro. Go ahead.
Starting point is 02:20:44 I take Q. I really want sugar-free, but... Yeah, I definitely want sugar-free. Wait, wait, wait, wait, sorry. So Q or sugar-free? Let's just pick... Q. Okay, Lush?
Starting point is 02:20:55 I pick sugar-free. Are you? You got to give it to Q? I don't say Q, best. So Q is 20 and sugar-free is 21. Not mad. So, okay, so then who is... I think that line up is solid.
Starting point is 02:21:08 No, I think... B-Rill, Vince, or Mazzie? Who's 23? Line number solid. B-Rill did a lot, bro, and he's still here, bro. B-Rill did a lot. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you got to listen to what I'm saying. I'm down for B-Rill.
Starting point is 02:21:21 I don't see, like, how Mazzie is above B-Row. I mean, come on, right? We got to go with the lyrics at some point. Like, okay, you get it. There's just one part of it, though, bro. All right, but how many... B-Ros is the truth. He's a legend, but...
Starting point is 02:21:35 Listen, Mazi influence a lot of niggins in your life. Why don't we compromise? You don't see Mazi influence because it's under peeing and shit. But Biro is more influential and perhaps more accolades. How is he like not above Mazzett?
Starting point is 02:21:47 And like he's a pioneer for you. Yeah, come on, bro. For the suit. Yeah, for the next. You got to. You got to. All right. Now, Mazzies are Ben Staples.
Starting point is 02:21:57 Mazzie. Emphatically. Oh, Vents. Okay, cool. Emphatically. And I fucks with Vince. I like I
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Starting point is 02:22:32 Pretty job-ass list. Yeah, man. I fuck with it. Now, listen, I'll be real, right? I'm gonna be 100%. I personally would put kid ink above Vince Staples, but that's just middle. I put Jackal. I would have put kid ink in there, too, but it's like nobody was, nobody felt my way.
Starting point is 02:22:50 Because you got to look up that certain culture with like, you know, um, Whiz Khalifa had the backpacker. So you can't care of things. When I said it, Taddleman and snapbacks and shit. Man, but folks, hey, hey, hey, listen. Much love you, Kid Ink, though. he fire you folks listen man folks like subscribe coming man
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