No Jumper - The NJ Show #269: Everyone Getting Dissed! FBG Butta Beat Up! Meek vs Wack!

Episode Date: September 7, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 They're not. They're saying we're live. Are we live? Yeah, I was at Drake's crib this weekend doing charts. Oh, come on. See, he's a... Really? Look, fool.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Just because I've done... I've partaking in activities such as taking copious amounts of various controlled substances that may or may not be FDA approved at the residence of aforementioned Popstar. top star doesn't mean anything it doesn't mean that it will or will not be alluded to you're the only person who has formerly had a bar leaked i did yeah shout out to rat yeah for sure yeah yeah for sure that shit found its way to the reddit very quickly oh wow you don't even know no i didn't even know i haven't
Starting point is 00:00:51 looked at the redid in the past like day or two i should have said something when i talked to you yeah yeah yeah yeah i didn't know that it was like if it was anybody else and if it was any other bar i would have been annoyed but i was like all right that was no he did an all right little leak there It's almost like Brad. I guess you're not going to say it again because I don't know. I'm just not going to say it again because it's too good. I just don't want to. I thought Rad was doing a great job of promoting.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Like it was like, you know, it was the perfect way to kind of just plan a little Easter egg to get people excited. They don't know that's not really the cipher and that you didn't actually say that in the cipher. Oh, there you go. Boom. Great job. No, I actually crossed an important boundary today, which is I played the cipher in its entirety for Lennah as well as the two. female plug talk employees. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:35 And Lenna said something that I was so shocked by. She said, I'm not surprised that you're a good rapper. I'm just kind of bummed that it was so mean. And I'm like, you're not surprised that I was like, you should be very surprised. And I'm not saying I'm good, but I'm like, if you genuinely think it's good,
Starting point is 00:01:56 you should be surprised because I've never done this before. But I guess like nobody has heard more of me just like mindlessly kind of like making up rap. than her over the years because I'm always just rapping some random shit together you know it's like I don't even think of it and like I have thought in the past like damn it's gonna be kind of weird for Parker when she realizes
Starting point is 00:02:13 I'm not actually a rapper and that I just be doing this like as a joke oh you tell her you a rapper no but I rap I'll like make up songs with her and stuff like all the time like her default mode of communication is nonsense words and like rhyming stuff because she's so
Starting point is 00:02:29 used to me doing that so you're saying Parker ghost wrote your versus essentially what he's trying to do. I should have got bar from her. That would have been fire, yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but that was kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Like, honestly, I feel like, uh, everybody seemed pretty impressed by you guys that was in that room, three women, but they, they all seemed impressed. That's cool. Hey, and Shal, Shal, you feel me, the, the plug talk team for giving their honest ears. And I think that- Shout out the assistant. Yeah. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:02:58 And the thing, the thing that's super good, like, like, interesting to be. me about that is Adam, you were like really concerned about Lena's reaction to your rap. And I wasn't like concerned. I already knew she was going to think it was like particularly like mean in certain moments, you know, I already knew she was going to have that reaction. Do you remember what you said specifically on the pod about it? What? You were like, you're like, well, it's been 22 hours since I sent it to her. Because she had the road. And so I sent it to her and she never listened to it. She didn't hear it until today and that was like two weeks ago that I sent her.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And then you were like, and I know she really likes me and all that, but I'm pretty sure that she's embarrassed to be with somebody that would do something like this is essentially what you said last week. No, yeah. I think that's definitely part of it for her. So what if you go like platinum like
Starting point is 00:03:49 10 times? Exactly. Will that change things? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Would she be in love with a rapper? I kind of almost feel like it would be logical for our next, my next song to be like a Bonnie and Clyde type thing. Oh.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Get her on the track. Deuce foe Bonnie and Clyde. If I can write the whole thing for... Is she going to be like a sexy red? No, she's going to be like Beyonce. Hopefully a little trashier than sexy red. Like, I want her to be like a little bit more up front about her STD history and everything. I think if anything, sexy red is a little too low-key about that.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Oh, yeah. So somewhere in between sexy red and Sukiana? Yeah, yeah. Get in there. Get in there, babe. I think she could be nastier than both. them. Clap.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I got the clap. She's gonna overthink everything. She's not gonna, like, she's not gonna let me just, like, give her a crazy verse. Are Armenians, like, and bomb approved? Like, is she able to?
Starting point is 00:04:43 Not her. Okay. The ones with, like, crazy, like, haircuts and shit, maybe. I think that's a choice. You got to put her on drugs through her fucking energy drink that day.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Hmm. Ooh, like microdose. Yeah, like a, like a macro dose. Some extra. I will say that, like, when I took that perk in the studio, that the rhymes were flowing out of me in a way that they didn't. Basically, I recorded, like, three different sessions, and the one right in the middle was the one where I was off a 15.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And then, like, when I listened to it, I'm like, damn, you are way more in the pocket at that moment, which I don't want to think that. Because I feel like this is going to be a big part of my life going forward. No, the best part of your verse by a significant margin is, like, literally this moment where... It kicked in. The Perkins searching.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I came out and I said, it kicked it. Remember? I was like, yeah, he does it. Because you're like, get out.
Starting point is 00:05:40 All right, all right, I got it. Because, like, when I listen to it, it's like, I can remember the beginning part,
Starting point is 00:05:45 and I can remember the end part, and then neither felt more comfortable, but the middle part, I was just going off and wasn't even, like, thinking about it. Like, it was just coming out of me.
Starting point is 00:05:55 At a certain point, you, like, literally transformed into sada baby. It was like, yo, where this. There's a dude with multicolored dreads in the booth all of a sudden. But it was just Adam spazzing off the perk.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I mean, there was part of me that just, like, okay, I thought I was going to go into the booth with you guys and that I was going to be able to just be like, all right, you guys tell me what to say. But then you guys start giving me lines. I'm not saying I didn't use any of them, but I just realized like, whoa, I'm too much of a control freak to let them write for me, even though I have every reason to believe that you guys would be better at writing than me. You know, but it's like in my head, I can't just like hear a line. And I've had this problem before, too, where like we were going to do like a, like a separate like channel or whatever that just had tons of like stories basically about like other people. And I'm still like toying with this idea.
Starting point is 00:06:45 We still might do it. But I like ask somebody on the team, I'm like, can you write me like a 10 paragraph version of this story? And they sent it to me and I like fucking rewrote the entire thing from scratch. And when I think about, I don't even know why I rewrote it. Like I'm sure theirs was all right. But in my head it was like I can't possibly get behind this unless I have put your hands on there It would just be hard for me to like let that go Yeah well I mean I'm not gonna lie you turn down as some
Starting point is 00:07:13 Ether like I gave you some he rocks that would Make people really question their existence You caught off fast and you decided not to use it But I feel like I caught off fast as much yeah he did I don't want to be an M&M I don't want to like be overtly rhyming and no offense But you you'd be like rhyming the shit out of words Yeah I'm like too Good, huh? It felt like I was doing a song with Logic and King Vaughn.
Starting point is 00:07:34 You know what, bro? Like, J-Cat versions. Hey, you know what? Like, I feel like as disrespected right now as DW did when he walked out. Like, I'm literally going to quit the- Just get up and go. You just call me logic. You give it that logic energy.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Are we, like, I thought that there's like a camaraderie that had developed. I haven't listened to enough logic to even know what that means. No, it hurt my feelings to a considerable degree. Damn, I'm sorry. No, you're good. With that being said, another person. that's a part of the No Jumper universe and Cass, as a matter of facts,
Starting point is 00:08:05 made a declaration that he believes that the worst verse in the No Jumper Cypher is going to be spit by none other than. When I asked Wack about it, and what? He said Brick was going to be the best? I think he shot it out Suss, too. And he said, you were going to be the worst.
Starting point is 00:08:22 How do you feel about that? They're counting them out. Well, I'll tell you this. You know what? I got a couple things to say. Number one, if my verse is the worst, the worst on there, then it must be a damn good cipher.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Because this, these old creaky bones got a little bit of bars left in him. And I'm not just talking about the prescriptions that I finesse from whatever relative happens to have anxiety. Yeah, he's one of our plus ones to the studio for the next project.
Starting point is 00:08:48 See, that's a weird new revelation is that you believe in the ghost writing slash assisting powers of Lush 1. No, it's just the vibe. It's just an aura. We got a, you feel like, we kick it. He knows hip-hop. So it's like the beat selection,
Starting point is 00:09:04 and if I'm not on the right cadence and stuff, like, hey, you should try, yeah. That is kind of like the feeling I walked away from this whole project with two was like, damn, I don't know how I'm going to not consistently think about this all the time. Like now I write lyrics in my phone, like a lot now. Like whenever I think of like, hey, hey,
Starting point is 00:09:25 it turns out. All right, you know what part of this show? This is new BMX. This is new Pokemon Goh. You realize, like, once you really start rapping, that it's embarrassing to just rhyme the last syllable. And that... Humiliated.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Even the people you think suck at rapping are, like, going out of their way to make each line sound like the next. You know, it's like, you need to... They don't need to have, like, five different syllables that rhyme, but it needs to at least have, like, a similar flow. And if you... You know, and it really is difficult to get your point across
Starting point is 00:09:56 while still saying shit that fits into the cadence that you want to be at, and then also doesn't sound ridiculous and, like, still sounds cool. When we'll talk about, like, the cutting-edge rappers that are, like, dope nowadays, they pretty much all use polysyllabic rhyme schemes. Everybody from Laser Dim to BabyTron to BLP, kosher, to anybody that's like, you feel me pushing the envelope in any regard,
Starting point is 00:10:20 they're mostly all doing that to some degree, whether or not they even realize they're doing it. And not to mention the Kodaks and all those dudes. Kodak. Well, there's a new Kodak song called Killshot that is on my playlist that I've just been listening to his shoeload. And like the way he rides that beat is fucking bizarre. Like I can never. He's a nigga with, with, pause.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Right. The way he ride me, he goes crazy. And nobody ever talks about that aspect of Kodak being dope. He had my top three. Like, yeah. Yeah, I love you. I can turn YACO or whatever. It's all about what version of him either.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yeah, no, he's go crazy. It's like, if it comes on, like, I'm going to go. through that project. Like, oh, yeah, this was my shit from this project. This was my shit. On that song, Killshot, also, like, just the lyrical themes. He's basically talking about how he's, like, scared to even have new people enter his life because he feels like
Starting point is 00:11:10 he's going to end up having to kill them. Understandable. He's very forthright about his distrust. To seem psychopathic enough that that would be a believable theme in your songs, that alone says a lot. He says a lot about your aura. He had a record,
Starting point is 00:11:26 I want to say it was like 2018 or not. 19 called Testimony, and I always use that record to show people when they're like, oh, Kodak Black and this new generation. You know, when old they try to, I'll like, actually, Shorty really rap, for real. Let me show you something. Yeah, they can actually rap.
Starting point is 00:11:41 But let me wrap up this Wack one on in response real quick. Because Wack is suffering from an affliction here, all right? Baldness. Beyond that, we share this affliction Wack, we also share another reflection. It's called
Starting point is 00:11:55 Lars. Lars. You feel me, lingering acute Raider resentment syndrome. Lars. So you're saying you have a lot in common with him, if anything. So I understand why he would think off-rip, of course, or why he would say Lush has the worst verse. But the only cure for that is these other effing bars players. So we don't see what you say after the Cypher.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I mean, Raider already kind of took it upon himself because there was like one leeks clip where I said something about him, not on the song, but like talking about the song, like, oh, I should have said this. And Raider, like, seems like he's taking that as, like, his invite that he already needs to rap back at me. So I invite that. Steadily doing too much, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I mean, what did that last time he diss fucking, uh, chichi blue? How come, like, that didn't do nothing, right? He did have a fire one amazing bar in that verse. You wrote that? No, I didn't. That was pretty lush. But he said, uh, how you claim double S when you got double Ds.
Starting point is 00:12:57 That's pretty fire for, like, I'm not gonna take that away from him. Are you sober, do me? Yeah, now that you and comp are... Totally. Yeah, no more free. Well, as a matter of, I'm glad that you brought that up. I'm really glad you brought that up as a matter of your sobriety? Yeah, give us an update, if anything.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Well, I want to know about, we are going to hopefully talk about your 75 days. Oh, yeah, I definitely want to talk about that as well. No, that's not like a sober thing. Yeah, yeah, this is all. I'll lay out the terms of the 75 part, but what were you going to say? All right, we'll talk about this in a moment. But I would say this. Raider made a statement that was posted on several outlets where he essentially said,
Starting point is 00:13:39 he posted views from his beautiful house, and, you know, and he said, like, you know, I'm bawling, I'm killing the game, and no jumper employees are broke. You know what I'm saying? Like, y'all are all living in apartments. You all live in apartments, y'all are broke. And um, nobody gives a fuck about hearing him brag about having money. Whoa. And I don't live in an apartment, but.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Yeah, I know you don't live in an apartment. I have that tribute. There's various. No, for employees. But if I can live in apartments, it's L.A. You know how much I wish I lived in an apartment? Me too. It's less, what?
Starting point is 00:14:13 Well, if me and baby girls split up, oh, I'm getting myself a nice little apartment spot. I just get so much less shit to nail it. I mean, it's nice having a yard, but besides that. You gotta clean that motherfucker up, though. Yeah, what if I don't need all the spaces? Yeah, what am I getting at the tiniest house ever? Like, I don't want a big fucking mention that I'm only going to be in like two rooms.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Anyway, I'll be upset. I love that apartment again. Yeah, and I'll say this. That's what I tell my girl. My apartment, which I'm really happy about, is the first apartment I've been able to have for a few years. Because, you know, your boy, I'd be up as hell, and then I'd be down. And I kind of hit a dark spot. And when I got that call from you in April,
Starting point is 00:14:54 You feel me? And you were like, hey, you want to, like, are you down to hop back on the No Jumper show? And at that point, I- What's up, Veliano? You're living, Bell. Homeless K! O.G. Velaside in the building. Hey, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Come on, man. That's a real one, gang. I see you guys. You're here, Sirskie. You're here, Zerski. With that being said, so, like, when I got that call from you, I was living out of the Airbnb, I was in between living situations and, you know, my girl, like, trying to take care of her, you feel
Starting point is 00:15:25 me, you got our little cat. I'm like, damn, I don't know what I'm going to do. And that call came as such a blessing, you know what I mean? Because not only did that mean that I was going to have more steady income, but it also meant that I was going to be put in a position to provide a lot more income for myself
Starting point is 00:15:42 and from my family as well. And I'm grateful that I love my apartment, my one bedroom apartment, that I'm super proud of you. You know, what else you need? Yeah, you all got kids. What the fuck we're talking about? Yeah, you don't need that. Well, to be technical as much. my cat is Marble the Cat's apartment.
Starting point is 00:15:56 We just live in there, you feel me, but with that being said, you know, I invited Rader to my home. I've never been to your mansion. I was never invited to your mansion. You were invited to my one-bedroom apartment that me and my girl have.
Starting point is 00:16:09 My girl cooked dinner for all of us, you feel me? She made salmon. Nobody wanted to eat. It was delicious salmon, you feel like. Nobody wanted to eat it. Well, you know, hey, because maybe maybe he was doing whatever he was doing he wasn't hungry. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:23 That's right. You know what I mean? And I'm not, like, look, I still consider a reader a friend, and I actually really, like, care about him. And I know at his core, he's not a bad person at all. But for him to insinuate any negativity about me to talk about my family, my finances, like when all I've ever done is open my heart to you. And when there's so many times where it was like, we're rocking with you was not the cool thing to do and put my job at risk. I still did it. I mean, like, and I still went out on a limb.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Guess what, fool? He also insinuated about, like, loaning former co-host money. I'm going to make that clear. That wasn't me, because he ain't never given me a dollar. Matter of fact, Adam, who got significantly more money, like, not to pocket watch, have I ever asked you for a dollar? Have I ever asked to borrow money? No.
Starting point is 00:17:11 From nobody in this no-jumper universe can say that Lush ever asked for a dollar from that. Fake narrative. You feel, me? I have an observation. I don't think he gave money to anybody. Your girlfriend smokes more. cigarettes than you. That's very disrespectful. She does, though, totally.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I've seen her firing them up before you would fire them up. That's social anxiety because she's around, she's meeting the homies for the first time and all that. And also, it didn't feel like the first time. Yeah, exactly. When she walked in the room, she immediately started telling me that my verse was pretty good, and I was kind of
Starting point is 00:17:43 like, oh, hell no. Like, this is going to cause a fight back at home. Why? Because she was complimenting my rapping, and I'm like, I don't know. I just feel like you might not Oh, like publicly you might be cool with that. Threatens my masculinity. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I was like, yeah, bro, like, she, we in love as fuck, fool. I ain't, she ain't gonna, your bars might have been cold, but they're not like cold just snatch the pussy from me, fool. Like, I don't know what you think this is, but like, no, but when she said that, I, like, didn't even look. I'm like, oh, okay, but I don't want to, like, look over it. I don't want to, like, make it weird. I didn't want you to be like, like, secretly, like, seething over there.
Starting point is 00:18:17 What the fuck? No, look, look, my girl cool is hell, and she's a very, like, She's a rapper too. She's an artist too. So she, like, she appreciates that. But regardless, like, all we ever did, I looked out for Kumpa, mind, body, soul, and preempted Paa semen.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Try to hook him up with two bitches that anybody in this office would gladly knock down. I guarantee it, you feel me? And so I done nothing but try to help this zoo. Right. Put him in good position. Take up for him. Adam, how many times were you like, I don't know about that phone? And I was like, no, compa's cool.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Give him a chance. Yeah, you were the reason why I fucking even. even knew at all. So to act like, and you know what? Or why even took him serious at all, basically, is what I should be saying. And I said nothing bad about, bro, even after he went bad and went rogue and started talking bad about Adam. I still was like, I'm not going to talk bad about you, fool, but just like, please stop.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Like, this is not, like, our agreed upon execution of maneuvers. Yeah. Do you feel me? Like, what is you doing, bro? You're making it hard to fuck with you. If this was a skit, you feel me? like we already in prison. Yeah, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:19:23 And then, so, and then, like, of course, like, you talking bad about Adam, I'm not going to take your side in that. You feel, I'm sorry, my boy. Like, especially after the six times I've already gone out on a limb privately and publicly for you. Well, wasn't it like you guys got this, like, deal together? And then all of a sudden that's when he chose to, like, go on a bender, start talking shit. Like, it was basically, like, something real good happened to you guys. And then he immediately, like, pivots it into acting like a fool. And let me clarify that.
Starting point is 00:19:51 But a fool, but a fool. And let me clarify that. I got a deal. You feel me? I got a deal. And I was trying to include him in the situation. I was trying to demonstrate value. You know what?
Starting point is 00:20:01 You know what's funny about the whole money thing? And like, he's talking about he's so up. He got, I'm shit to check with it. I'm still getting myself back up. I'm going to be up. You see me like, you see the moves I'm making. I'm going up, baby. And when I'm up is skyward bound.
Starting point is 00:20:15 With that being said, I really needed money. When you gave me that phone call, you feel me like when you hit me up i was like trying to move into that apartment i didn't have the deposit or nothing i needed five bands raiders hit me every day like what's up fool this pod together this pod i didn't ask him for shit but i could have used it it would have been great but i got that together my motherfucking self paid my bills in fact no jumper help me you feel me and so check that out fool i'm gonna be real with you like compa never in any way really like proved that he was a draw, you know, and I still think
Starting point is 00:20:49 that's true. Like, he fucking did Icon's podcast like a couple days ago, and I went and checked and had like 5,000 views. So it's like he's definitely not in a position to be like, you know, demanding that we have him on the podcast as if he's like bringing so much to the tables. We never heard him have a coherent conversation and the number
Starting point is 00:21:05 of people who were really like fans of them was relatively small. Let's be real. And you know what? And I'll say what I always say when this gets brought up. He has a great personality. He's a really like charismatic dude and he has a lot of traits that could be positive for like skits
Starting point is 00:21:21 and stuff. Yeah, but on a podcast it's got a different right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like if he does like a skid or some shit like that, he'll be good. Yeah, no, but ultimately at the end of the day I feel what y'all saying. It's just so funny that, and he would even go
Starting point is 00:21:37 as far as to be on his life talking about Lush does more drugs than me. Like, what kind of like bro? Like you're, why would you even insinuate something like, that it's true by the way you know what I mean but you would never know based on our behavior you would never know based on our behavior I didn't know that yeah yeah yeah you'd be walking around looking like relatively normal he looks like a fucking j-cat yeah and look so at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:22:01 I didn't say any of this to disrespect I just wanted to clarify the claims that were made and the gratitude I have you know as a believer as a man of God you feel me for putting me in that position and you feel me and shouts of the homies for believing in me when I'm had to believe in me at that time, you feel me? He shot me the alley-up, and guess what? A player, shit, I heard no jumper just got rank number 49 on the top list of podcasts in the
Starting point is 00:22:27 world. In the world. In the wizard. That's why I mean, you know, and I realize how it is, like, there's just, there's a huge difference. I'm gonna be real. Like, there's so many people that try to compare us to ourselves that we probably should not even spend time acknowledging. Now, of course, with the cipher
Starting point is 00:22:42 coming, that seems fairly unlikely. It's not like we took aim a lot of like big dogs. It was like, you know, for the most part, we're kind of like firing shots at a bunch of people that realistically don't really deserve our attention. And that's even more true if you consider Flacco's verse where he was naming tons of people. I don't even know who they were. So we're definitely going to light the YouTube ecosystem of fire tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Flaco went on a clubhouse right. Literally. I feel like as of tomorrow, I think it might actually be dropping tomorrow. I think that as of tomorrow, we're going to change the podcast, content. creator landscape in LA because there's going to be so many people that are going to want to respond in song that I just I think everybody's going to fucking fall in line and like once again because that's the that's the crazy thing about us is that we the interviews combined with this shit like we spark the discussion that rules all the other podcasts so often like I'm not even
Starting point is 00:23:38 talking about like ops and shit I'm just talking about everybody on in this whole fucking state in terms of podcast in general like we just like create the fucking narrative out of thin air constantly. Yeah. Well, if you're explaining what any, and I'm not mentioning any specific podcast, but any no jumper adjacent or
Starting point is 00:23:56 podcast that stems from this universe, you have to use the word no jumper to describe what it is. You know what I mean? There's a reason why on that list of the biggest podcast of the world and that's in any language, any genre, by the way, there's no
Starting point is 00:24:12 stipulations on that. We're talking about getting compared with the, we on that, we on that lists because you feel me every other podcast that stems from No Jumper or Stemmed is still low-key apart of No Jumper. Should we take a look at that fucking list? Because I saw it floating around in
Starting point is 00:24:29 the Reddit earlier today but I didn't actually look at it. I just scrolled past it. Was it in? Oh yeah, there it is. Also, like the streets, I didn't know how involved or in like that the
Starting point is 00:24:45 streets was to the shit that we were doing until I'll just email this the shit that I start saying start going viral to where they're like you know what I'm saying like wait hold the fuck on like I'm sitting here talking on a podcast
Starting point is 00:24:57 with two white guys or or with DW at the end of the day like how does that even concern you and I'm like oh this shit is bigger than what people want to give us the flowers of it be big because like you got to count our views with the
Starting point is 00:25:12 React pages because they might not come to us for the content because they got great React pages also that they're going to and they're hearing the narrative, you know what I mean? 100%. All right, let's take a look at this in terms of like, let's ignore everything that's not of the culture or whatever. No jumper, 49.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Going up, drink champs at 43. Okay, that should just tell you everything you need to know right there. Drink champs at 4.3. You know, shout out to Logan Paul. He's at 40. To be fair, I want to say drink champs would probably be higher if they, like, were more consistent with their output. I'm going to be real with you, too.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I'm kind of curious about the terms that a lot of this was based on, in terms of what actually counts. Because from my perspective, Joe Button at $35 and a million dollars worth of game, I consider the Joe Button podcast to be, like, dramatically bigger than a million dollars worth of a game. No shots at Gilling-Wallow. But from my perspective, I would think so. But, I mean, this says that they're neck and neck and neck. I mean, a look on a million-dollar game, a million dollars,
Starting point is 00:26:16 where the game is like a... Definitely a good look, but I don't know. I just think of the Joe Buttonon podcast as like... What I just said about us on the West Coast, I considered the Joe Button podcast to be that on the East Coast and also kind of nationally, just in terms of like really helping to drive the narrative. So what's math...
Starting point is 00:26:33 Where has math pod been into that equation? Not terribly well. I fogged with math, but... Do you think that him being left off the complex top 25 was like, out of pocket or do you think it's somewhat reasonable? There was definitely podcasts on that list that I think math is ahead of, but I don't think it's like some massive omission, and I don't think we've heard anybody really bitching and crying about math not being on it.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Now, say cheese, I think them not being on it is a criminal offense. That to me demolishes the purpose of that entire list. Dude, they have a podcast, though. Who? Because say cheese is just interviews. It's not really neat. I consider say cheese a podcast. even if it's primarily YouTube.
Starting point is 00:27:18 But it wasn't a podcast list. It was hip-hop media. Yeah, hip-hop media. Let's just finish this out. Because that might be kind of like it for hip-hop, right? Joe button and- media. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:28 No, say cheese for sure. Everything else on this is... The Breakfast Club. 22. Where's breakfast club? Right there. 22. Oh, 22, the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:27:38 See, that's interesting. Because so much of the Breakfast Club, like, if you were to look at the Breakfast Club's numbers, they'd probably be, like, pretty close to, like, us, or a million dollars worth of a game or whatever. Like, it's probably not that different. Oh, geez. But they're on the radio, and they're on TV and shit.
Starting point is 00:27:54 But that definitely, like, contributes to why they're big. I just don't know, like, how they calculate this. I'm assuming this refers to, since it says Edison Research is the website, I'm assuming this refers to cross-platform views. Club? It has to be. Club Shay-Shay. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:28:12 Even beyond that, it's like, if you really wanted to get a real look at, like, who's the biggest, you'd have to include, like, short form on platforms you don't even know, or you don't even own. Like, if you have a fucking TikTok that gets 100 million views, it might not benefit you in any way besides exposure, but that's still, like, very much, like, your content
Starting point is 00:28:29 reaching a huge audience. I find it weird that there's some of these, like, Joe Roghing experience I watch all the time, daily, I listen to, like, every day, crime junkie. Never even heard of it. No clue. I should probably check it out. I've heard it. It's probably some crazy shit. It's like, it's A&E, if it were a podcast.
Starting point is 00:28:46 And you're telling me Dateline NBC is a podcast. Again, no clue. Like, thought it was a TV show. That shows how desperate they are to say irrelevant. But look at Club Shay-Shay soaring from like nothing last year to 11th place now. Now, granted, like, that's on the back of some gigantic interviews. I was about to say he came out swinging. Yeah, who knows if anybody's going to be able to really, like, replicate that in the long term.
Starting point is 00:29:09 But, I mean, I'm going to be real with you. Every single time I see No Jump around here, I'm just like, what the fuck? Like, how are we actually? league with all these podcasts that I think of as being like way bigger than us. Well, it's dope that we, you know, we just creeped upon the 49th and I'm, hopefully we going to continue to rise and see how we go. Because, you know, I feel like if it's based on the type of content that I watch, I actually still watch no jumper and no jumper adjacent.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Like, Foccos, for example. Well, look at this. The list ranks podcast based on total audience reach from the Edison podcast metrics. interviews were conducting continuously throughout the quarter in English and Spanish. Rankings are based on listening over the full period. All respondents reported listening to podcasts in the last week. So they're actually polling people on this. So that's not, it's not, oh, the only podcast measurement service that measures listening,
Starting point is 00:30:01 not downloads across all their shows and platforms. That kind of what I said? This could be something to really dig into because it's probably pretty fucking interesting. And they do this like every quarter. and from what I understand I think we are not on this one No one, the newest one. We weren't on the last one, but Q2 We hit 49.
Starting point is 00:30:21 No, this is 49. I probably just clicked on it. Yeah, this is the same one as the other one. But either way, it's a fucking kind of bizarre. So this is an honor though, honestly, shout it to anybody who listens to us because that's pretty sick. I thought it was dope. Yeah, I'm proud. Crash.
Starting point is 00:30:33 You want to hear about that? We don't crash again. Let's everybody, everybody. Before we talk about that. Keep all the bullshit going. That's true. But think about that. That was almost entirely conducted after the news.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I believe it would be conducted after the news got canceled, after all the other podcasts canceled, in which all we do is this show twice a week that I'm on typically once and then the Wack podcast and then interviews. Yeah, for sure. That's kind of crazy. No, that was a joke. Like, we're supposed to be the messiest, the most fucked up,
Starting point is 00:31:04 but we got reach. Whatever you guys see, those are natural hiccups of life on live stream. And it's funny because you talked about, you're like, oh, how many people respond to you and it made you aware of, like, the full extent. Yeah, like, what? But there's never, I was thinking about it. Like, damn, there's never been anybody that's been a no-jumper host that wound up, like, attracting that same level of attention from people that want to get that cloud.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Plus, break is down to engage with them. You know what I mean? Yeah. You didn't see T.R. A.D., any of those fools getting into it with fools like that. You know what I mean? Very different style. Very different style.
Starting point is 00:31:41 of dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it, like, works for, I think it works. Hey, it's just an act, guys. I'm a softy. I was talking to Vlad last night, and we were actually talking about his current situation with Tony Yeo. So Tony Yeo does an interview with Vlad, and at some point during the interview, yeah, it's kind of hard to tell to what extent he's being serious and to what extent he's kind of like brokering, deal. He's like kind of trying to feel out like how valuable he is to Vlad. And he basically says that while he was hanging out with 50 on tour with 50, that 50 told him he wanted to throw five million at him to try to start a podcast network. This is kind of crazy for a variety of
Starting point is 00:32:29 reasons, which on one hand, I think like 50's brain and industry muscle getting into the podcast game could totally create something huge. That being said, it's kind of a lot of. It's kind of like unproven to what extent people would watch, I don't know, Yale interview people or like a consistent show with Yale and Uncle Murder? Totally. He's super entertaining. But this is my thing. Yale is entertaining
Starting point is 00:32:53 being interviewed by somebody like Vlad, who realistically like is going to create parameters and ask specific questions and try to control the conversation. I'm not 100% confident that Yale would be able to pull that off himself. If anything, if I was Yale and I was going to break off and start my own podcast, I would probably try to like
Starting point is 00:33:11 get a straight guy, like media terms, like a normal dude to sort of like control the energy and to be able to that shit. To make it does not completely go out the window. Now that being said like 50, when you think about 50 starting like a no jumper or a or a Vlad competitor, it's like he has so much of this shit comes down to like relationships. Who fucks with you? Yeah. 50's so unbelievably popular that they'd be able to get crazy views every time he's on camera.
Starting point is 00:33:38 And then he'd be able to get a ton of the top. people in the industry on. That being said, I kind of feel like 50 would get into this game and be sort of let down by what was possible financially. Like, it doesn't necessarily seem like a good use of his time. The first one should be a Jaru interview.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Oh, that was... It's over if he does that. Oh, my don't you. Jaru, first one. You gave him too much game, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Jaro would be crazy to do that because Javu could never give that to him. Like, oh, yeah, you've been shitting on me and trying to destroy my career for the last
Starting point is 00:34:11 30 years, here you go. I got an unbelievable amount of money for you, Joe. You're going to write him a bad check. I honestly feel like, I feel like Yeo was trolling Vlad and actually has no real plans. This is what I was going to say. Okay, so 50 we've seen is capable of running media networks through like this is 50 and all that. Do we not consider this is 50 to be basically a failure?
Starting point is 00:34:34 No, it was very, I don't consider this as 50 a failure. A couple of years, yeah, but did it ever turn a profit? Like, why didn't they tell you the fucking? Why did they not transition into like the current internet age? Oh, all those sites died. Yeah, but this is, yeah, it was so early on creating original internet content. Right. Why did that not continue on?
Starting point is 00:34:53 I'm going to tell you that it's because even if they had fucking killed it, it's not exactly the best business. Especially everything, every business, you have to compare it to like what that person's other opportunities are. Right. 50s opportunities are like go on tour, make millions of dollars, you know. Vitamin water. Artists, brands. Movies and shows. Of course.
Starting point is 00:35:12 The TV shit. Oh, come on. But to him, like, dropping a few mill on something is not necessarily a sizable investment. Now, what I believe is that was all cap. 50. This is just my theory, right? I don't know shit about nothing. I think 50 told, bro, like, hey, use this as a negotiating tactic.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Tell him that I'm going to start my own ship. So he'll see the value and maybe you can get a bag out of Vlad. Well, because... Am I crazy? 50 does not love Vlad. Well, yeah. That has been kind of made clear. He does not have any intentions on doing content with Vlad in the near future.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And honestly, I just watched Gilling-Wallow interview 50, and it stands out to me that 50 has a lot of black pride. I don't think he's, like, eager to, like, elevate white voices in the community. Now, that being said, also, 50... Except for he loves Eminem. 50, yeah, well, he got brought in the game by him, so for sure. But, like, 50 has a very hard time staying on topic. Like, they asked him the question.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I only watched, like, the first half hour of this. They asked 50, like, who, name five black entrepreneurs who inspired you, which I will also say, I don't feel like that's a great question, 15 minutes into the interview. Like, that's like a fucking, like a award show ranking type question. Like that, that to me is a little weird. Like, if we're going to start this interview, we should be, we should be like shooting the shit. We should be vibing. I don't like when people get too, like categorized in terms of that shit.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Like, I don't know. That just, to me, that stood out. Like, that's not the best use of the time here. But 50 has, like, almost no ability to listen to the question and answer the question. He just, he names one person and boom. He says Master P. And then he is going in tangents in every different direction. That was one through five.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Master P. Well, no, he named some other people, but it was because they, like, forced him to name other people, which I was kind of surprised by. But, yeah, shout out to them for honestly getting that interview. But it was maybe not the best question. I've ever heard in my life, at least for the part I stuck around for. I'm not like feigning for the 50 interview. After we see movies about his life and...
Starting point is 00:37:16 This might be the first 50-cent interview I listened to in like 10 years. I'll be honest. And I say that as like he's one of my favorite artists. That's my boy too. I just grew up worshipping the dude. Same. I think I know him already. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yeah, yeah. And that's kind of the point. That's why an interview with him isn't that coveted because he shares so much of himself. We've seen, like he said, he has a whole biopic about him that, he produced, and he's been very outspoken throughout the entirety of his career, about every op he has. Like, what do we need to learn? That's one of the first questions that they asked him.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Gilling Wall, no offense, but one of the first questions they asked him was like, have you ever felt like somebody was blackballing you out of the industry? And I was just like, okay, like, you should not ask a question that makes me feel like you didn't do any research, because it's so easy for me to list off the people from murdering to Supreme to whoever that of course there was a lot of people fucking. This is like the most hated guy in the music industry before he became what he became. His first single was called
Starting point is 00:38:15 How to Rob, where he talks about trying to rob every single popular rapper at the time. But you gotta think like how many, 50 just didn't go for the fake cool shit. Like, you know how many rappers when they seen him knowing 50 was like tough in the street? Oh yeah, I'm gonna fuck with you. I'm gonna, and then, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:31 So when he finally got his little shine and all the shit that happened with the shooting and shit, he's like, fuck it. it's me against the city already. I'm gonna just turn it up. Right, for sure. He came in, he'd been just,
Starting point is 00:38:43 he was the first drill. That was like first form of drill rap. Like, I'm gonna do this, everybody, like, I'm EBK. And people forget that after how to rob, he came through with the ghetto Karan shit.
Starting point is 00:38:54 He was the first snitch right. He was airing out of all the drug dealers from Queens and shit. Now, I went back and listen to that song. Now you just go to your Instagram and tell a story. Well, his original argument is,
Starting point is 00:39:04 it stands and it's reasonable is like all that shit was written about in books and everything. So it's like, who cares? But let's be real. Like a song is going to have way more reach than a fucking book about crime, you know? But while I'm having that conversation with Vlad, because we were talking about like him asking for more money or whatever, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:39:21 you know, I just used as an example to Vlad, I'm like, it'd be like if Brick Baby came to me tomorrow and told me he had a $5 million deal, do a podcast on the table. Take it. What am I going to say? I'm going to say I'm happy for you. I hope this doesn't affect our friendship. But like, bro, go get a shit. I'm like, I absolutely, I can't pay you $5 million.
Starting point is 00:39:39 For sure. I'm sorry. For sure. You got it kind of just like, hey. Yeah. And for the alley-oop, you know, I'm always going to be loyal. Shit, it started here. But then, if it ever happened.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Vlad's response was, do you think I should do a Brigg baby interview? I said, oh, yeah. Which I was pretty fucking hyped on because that, like, I don't know, it's just such a formal platform in a way that I'm just excited to see, like, what the first three clips are titled that. I'm going to be hell of tuned into that. And I would not like, if you go do a random podcast realistically, I'm not going to watch it most of the time because most of the shit is ass. But I'm very fascinated to see what that conversation is going to look like.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Dude, you should just do exactly what Longway did. He's never having you back up without, yeah. Come on, Vlad. It's a nice color, Vlad. Nah, we're going to have a good conversation. Yeah. I know, that's what I was like, damn, what the fuck is Flagg going to ask me? Because he's not going to have me on the platform, dude.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Ask no bullshit. But okay, this is the difference between, like, Vlad and, like, a lot of people out there is that Vlad wants to tell your life story. He wants to title the first interview. Brick Baby tells his life story. And this is how it's going to start. Well, so this is our first time doing an interview.
Starting point is 00:40:51 So I want to go all the way back to the beginning. Tell me about growing up in the rolling 60s. You know, like, he always starts out from the very beginning and wants to go through. But, like, you know, you have, like, crazy stories from back in the day that haven't been like, that's what I'm saying. We've had the conversations,
Starting point is 00:41:07 but I feel like it might have got kind of lost. Like, Blad, like, asked the questions in such, like, a regimented way. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:41:13 he'll start with your family. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Generations. It's a whole lot of shit going on with the family. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:41:20 but yeah, nah, I'm geek too. That is, I'm very, very excited. I'm going to start pitching the lush one after that. I, I had a,
Starting point is 00:41:28 I had a, I had a, I had, and we did it on Clemsonstynststststststst, You feel in me? Like, Vlad came to Clemson Street, interviewed me. It's like several parts. I'm going to call you Roger Clemens.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Yeah, exactly. Roger Clemson. Because I pitched that work. You feel on me? But I never got the Vlad one-on-one, and there's so much to discuss, because he was there for the whole battle battle. He was there for the Cassidy thing. He had, in fact, this is why I really rocked with Vlad, because he did an interview. He interviewed me one time, and it was so gnarly, and I was on so many drugs.
Starting point is 00:42:04 The shit that I said... What year? The end of 14, beginning in 2015. And it was like right after I started working with Alki and I got, like, you feel like me, like Cassidy 200 bands, the battle rap disaster and all that. Well, that doesn't like having his time wasted. So if you came too fucked up one time, for sure... No, it wasn't me being fucked up.
Starting point is 00:42:24 It was... He's such a cool guy. And guess what? I said things that we're going to... He said, you're going to... This could get you in trouble. What you're saying could get you in trouble. Like...
Starting point is 00:42:33 You were self-snitching. even that. Okay, so at the time I was beefing how I got into it with a battle rapper, it's his name, Sirius Jones, really well-known battle rapper, and we have like a really heated back and forth and where we talked about things that were happening. And then
Starting point is 00:42:48 he wound up interviewing me and I like told the whole story and a whole bunch of shit. And this is why people talk about Vlad being federal and all that. Like, he wasn't in my case, or maybe he's waiting until I get super famous and then he drops it. Like, I don't know. But I think a lot of statues of limitation might be passed by then.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Yeah, I mean, honestly, from my perspective, given how the internet world looks at this point, it's like, Vlad's level of federalness in his interviewing is nothing compared to a lot of people out here who are popular now. People do it their self now. You don't have to do nothing. It's like, all right, I'm going to talk about this. And then whoever picks it up and posts it on their page, you can take it down or I'm going to kill you. Like, dude, you said it. You said it. What the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:43:36 Like, did you take it down? Right. Like, what the fuck? But, like, in this day and age, me, DJU, I'll just use him as an example to just name somebody else, but, like, there's so many interviewers who are going to ask you more specific questions and show less care towards your possible legal jeopardy than Vlad. Vlad does not even hit my top five of most federal interviews at this point.
Starting point is 00:44:00 He could have completely slimmed me out, and it would have made me not only these, like, this interview is about, Ask him about it. But Vlad does, Vlad has a vibe about it. That is, it feels a little bit more like an interrogation room than most.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Like this podcast, you're smoking. There's a couple other people there. You're hanging out. There's some bullshit on the wall. There's a 40 for some reason. That doesn't feel as much like an interrogation room whereas like Vlad's,
Starting point is 00:44:21 it's like it's totally quiet. There's a nonsensical drum set for some reason. It feels a little bit more. It's crazy. It's like a real thing. It's iconic. You know that shit was there. Someone got to hop on them.
Starting point is 00:44:33 The great thing. The crazy part is it's a smaller platform, but that's my boy, because I started over there to DJ Small's eyes. Yeah, small eyes is, yeah. Oh, my God. That is interrogation. Oh, my God. That's my boy, though. I do anything for us, my boy.
Starting point is 00:44:50 But there's another thing. I used to hate on him for asking, like, a lot of girls what high school they went to. But now Remo does that to all the Chicago rappers, too. Like, Remo in his head is, like, piecing together, like, who went to what school, and he can kind of, like, he can kind of like, he can. can see like a map of it in his head. But small eyes has some of the weirdest questions of all time. It's super weird and weird vibe. Why specifically girls is he asking that?
Starting point is 00:45:14 If it was everyone, that would make sense. I've just seen girls on there with like the weirdest fucking titles. And then I'll click on it just because I'm intrigued by the weird title. And then it's like it really lives up to that. Like many, many weird questions in a row. Or like, you know, you start talking about Lean and it's like, so how much money do you think that you would spend on Lean in a give in a month, which I hear that, I'm like, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Like, I'm so glad that I actually know what's going on. My grandfather owns stocking activists. No, the thing about that, he ain't even like that off camera. Have you met him before? I haven't, but I've heard of it. He, like, actually straight. Eddie was with the, what, Sether Smoke DJs or whatever. They used to have, like, little fire mixtapes in a mixed tape.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I rock with small eyes. But the thing is, also what led to Yale doing that is, Bousie's been telling everybody that he make half a millie off Vlad every year. And he gets 40K per interview. I can confirm that that is not true. Yeah, we could all.
Starting point is 00:46:13 But a lot of people... Not 40K per interview. He couldn't, and that would have been way more than fucking Amelia. Well, no, because Vlad I think I asked him, I think he said he averages six interviews a year with Bucy. So even if he was getting 40K a year, it wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:46:27 that much. That's 250. But I know Vlad, and I know Vlad's not like breaking bread on an interview that would be more than the interview costs that he could ever make, and he never make $40K off of one Boosie interview, no offense. And granted, he probably pays Boosie more than he plays anybody else that has ever, besides like an occasional one-off, like a Samuel the Bull type thing or whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:48 But I don't think Vlad would ever pay almost, he would never have a repeat guess that he pays $40K. It's just not going to make sense. If you got Flaco, like Flaco was saying, you know what I'm saying, but Boosie putting it out there, that that's just creating the energy people thinking you get a bag off a bro like that. I feel like does Boise do any other platforms? Not really.
Starting point is 00:47:10 He will go on the breakfast club or drink champs or whatever. But as far as like his home, it seems, you know, Black is priority. If he has some interesting shit going on, he does the interview with Vlad and his clips are like 40 clips of like current drama and antics. Maybe he's picking up a bag just off of the Vlad shit. Is that what he's saying? Like, I don't really got to do.
Starting point is 00:47:33 do all the extra shit because my promotion of my life is too flat. And the money that I get is because I'm on these podcasts and shit now. It's no longer because of the music only and all that shit. I don't know. He tried to make it sound fly, but I feel like he's saying that he got a new lifestyle that he lives in here, a YouTuber type shit. Yeah, that's kind of basically what he's insinuating.
Starting point is 00:47:55 You're a YouTuber. You can change the title. But the thing about that shit is that it's like... Oh, your IG. It's like if you're Boosie, you're in the game to make yourself seem like you're doing extremely well regardless of how you're doing. All rappers do this to a certain extent. But like a rapper, I heard Ack say this the other day. Rapper's going to get on a song and say, I got $100K a show.
Starting point is 00:48:19 And the reality is he's doing some shows for 10, some shows for 20. He had some random guy who paid him $140K for a birthday party. And, you know, he's trying to get $100K. He would love to get $100K every time. Realistically, that's not the fucking case. but like rappers do that shit and I tried it I went on that one podcast and I said I made a million dollars a year or a month yeah I don't think it worked out very good for me not because I believed you because Josh told me that like almost everybody started asking about raises immediately after that now Now, I didn't think I had to tell everybody that I was, I don't want to use the word lying, but let's just say fudging the truth, that I was like, I was being as optimal as possible.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Now, granted, at that time, some of our revenue streams were doing, like, dramatically better than they're doing now. I thought that including fun talk. This was the pandemic. Oh, okay. Yeah, I said all kinds of crazy shit. I don't know. I just, I already knew that this guy was going to need a crazy title for it because, like, everybody else who does ice coffee hour, their titles are always like so-and-so talks about going from making a dollar, a day. to $50 million or whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:21 So it's like I knew I needed to go in with a good topic. I didn't really consider the extent to which it was gonna impact everything. But there's a lot of choices like that. You know, no niggas. When I was watching the video of the Cipher, I was watching the video of the Cipher,
Starting point is 00:49:36 and I'm just thinking about how cool I would look with a big ass chain. And I'm like, oh, it's a rapid distance. I'm like, if I spent 40K on a chain, I'll be out here looking cool as fuck. And then I was just thinking about like how much shit comes with that that I don't want to deal with,
Starting point is 00:49:50 that I was just like, nah, I'm not going to do that, no matter how cool it would be, you know? I think you still kind of have to deal with a lot of it. Nah. But, okay, I know. Without the jury owners, like, I can pass by him. With the jury owners, like,
Starting point is 00:50:03 I'm going to say something out of, maybe I could swipe at the chain and get myself shot. Oh, God. Can you imagine if I was walking around with five chains on, how every, like, the prices people ask for interviews. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Who go through the roof. Because people are going to, like, people are not really paying that much of attention, but they see you at five chains, they're like, oh, he's rich. I wonder if also the cost of living in California is so high. That alone is a flex. That alone. Yeah, I live near Bacarthur Park in a person.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I'm like, I live in L.A. That's a flex alone. Like, if I move somewhere, of course you can save up for all type of crazy shit. You could get a four bedroom for $2,000. That's what I'm saying. So the exchange rate between here in Louisiana. You're saving $3,000 to $4,000 out there. So basically, Boosie equivalent making $500K off Laddam near if you want to take that into account.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Yeah, but okay, if you have 10 kids, you're playing the game on hard. Right. On expert. Yeah. All of a sudden, you have to make so much money to break even every month. Yeah, yeah. Not to mention, like, when I think about my expenses, I mostly think about this building, which is like probably our biggest expense besides payroll.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And it's like, I don't regret purchasing the spot because we definitely, like, do a lot of shit here. make very good use of it. But, I mean, like, when I think about all the expenses I have to cover every year, for sure, I'm thinking about this building. I'm thinking about the house. I'm thinking about, you know, even just having one kid, it's like, oh, shit, like, that makes me want to be so financially conservative because I just never want to hit a wall where I'm like, fuck, I got five chains, but my kids' fucking private school bills are going to go unpaid this month. I'm going to go and talk to the teachers and tell them I got to make it up next month. 22 chains? I don't want to get there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Yeah, yeah. I don't know. And get like that. Yeah, and get like that when you still flexing and you got kids. I'm coming out of a stage
Starting point is 00:51:58 where it's like, all right, this shit is strictly for the kids. I got to buy cars, college, all of that shit. And it's like
Starting point is 00:52:04 me being so late on the first one, it's like I'm really setting up for all the other ones. Like, already, no, I'm just have to dig in my pocket
Starting point is 00:52:12 with my older, when the first one goes to college, but I'm not tripping. You know what I'm saying? I'm not tripping. I need to change your name to break adult. Yeah. You should sit down on the cyph, those are good bar.
Starting point is 00:52:24 It's like, it don't take a lot of just you got to pay attention and set yourself up because you don't want that shit to just come and you got to figure it out. Yeah, which is like me. We have a peer who, I'm going to keep this super vague, but I heard about him getting pressure put on him in the streets, basically. And I was told about this by some of my guys. And I said to them, I'm like, how do I make sure that doesn't happen to me? And they're like, well, you don't drive around in anything crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:54 You don't have a bunch of jewelry on. So I don't think anybody's looking at you like that. And I was like, okay, I'm going to keep that in mind. That's very, yeah. I want to hold on to that aura. Because if you think about it, it's very disrespectful to flex that amount of opulence from people that don't have it. But you don't be in them spots.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Right. It's like, at this point, you're moving like you got a chain on, too. That's kind of what I was saying. I know that because you see people who do wear jewelry at where they go wrong. So it's like, yeah, I'm already moving. Like, I got fucking a million dollars on, which is just I live in LA and I know how to stay out the way. You got to be police. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:53:30 Like, nobody's fiending to go to the club with all these people every night. Like, that's their last 5,000 they spent tonight on those bottles and shit. Right. They're ready to do something to you. Exactly. They baby mama's wanted $300 and they see. spent 5,000 at the club about to go fight her later on.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Kind of be going out working somehow. Let me dangle something. You feel like me? No, but somebody said, go and get you a gun and keep that on you. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I'm just saying like that on a lot. Thanks. I mean, okay, if you really be having that shit in your house, it's not just about like having a gun. It's about like
Starting point is 00:54:06 you are a blatant target for a home invasion in which you having a gun might not really matter that much, you know? Well, I mean... A whole invasion? Well, a flock, if you will. Well, no, a flock is when no one's there. You said it right.
Starting point is 00:54:19 A home invasion. No, they're probably a flock yesterday, but a home invasion is not there. That's when you're not there. Too much. Home invasion is when you're there. Yeah. But that's too much. I don't think, I don't see nobody trying to foot some chains and shit.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Yeah, I mean, that's just me being overly paranoid. I'll put it like this, though, is that fucking there's a family from my kids' private school who they just got their asses up and left went to the OC because they have one of these fucking Chilean gangs run up in their shit. I don't actually even know if they were there or not. I know nobody got hurt, but, like, just hearing them talk about that shit. And I was like, damn, you're talking like, I'm a fucking idiot for staying up here. I mean, Chilean.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Yeah. I guess the Chilean gangs be flocking everything. Yeah. What the fuck is? What is the Chilean? First of all, what's the name? They're not Chilean. They're actually getting, they're not chilling at all.
Starting point is 00:55:09 They're getting up in people's cribs and taking shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're getting that real chilly. They're getting that Chile. That Chili Baba. And that's a big deal. Yeah, that's a big deal. Somebody actually has caused a diversion and created a whole, like, proxy gang that doesn't exist to make these white people think that they are.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And now, my goodness, Chilean people have to suffer the consequences. And now we got Venezuelans going to war with Oblo. Not that Venezuela's going crazy everywhere, though. I was just asking FBG, if it comes down to it, Dutchie and Young, are you all down to, like, patch shit up with Oblock and go to war with the Venezuelans? No. Combine your switches together? no i aren't really feeling that idea too much but if it comes down to it they probably gonna have to they're gonna have to that's the only way and then welcome to L.A.
Starting point is 00:55:54 That's for being so nice all the time motherfucker you gotta see that shit coming it's not like that because they are not from here so they have to settle somewhere and then when they get comfortable they're gonna press their line because they have to make something theirs it's just like war like you know what I'm saying so it's like you can't let motherfuckers get too deep and being too tough of you. But that's the crazy shit about Chicago is that if they really do have an existential threat, like some migrant gangs, all of a sudden Chicago having all these gangs assembling all this fucking firepower and shit over the years is going to seem like a pretty smart
Starting point is 00:56:33 decision because now all these groups of dudes are going to be fucking ready. I don't know what that looks like. I don't know if they're just going to be capping anybody who looks like they might be Venezuelan. You know what what it look like is them fools going to click up with different fools up there and then like, there's Latin kings,
Starting point is 00:56:48 you know, Latin kings have a very strong, there's Latin cobras, there's a hell of Latin gangs already in Chicago that have been, just because, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:55 see a strong representation and drill music doesn't mean that that's just not cracking. No, it's cracking. Type Chicago Latin Kings documents to YouTube and you go find some crazy as shit.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah, yeah. But I was, like, the Venezuela's in, in Denver or somewhere in Colorado, they just took over
Starting point is 00:57:14 apartment building. I think that's what they're saying some of that's a lie, but I do feel like there's like a crazy insertion. But you saw them with the guns and shit? Oh, that was just them. I think it got hyped out a little bit by the media world, yeah. Yeah, well that just like you could basically say any country in the southern hemisphere, add the word migrant or immigrant and then just create mass hysteria. I fucking, I brought Brickbaby to a
Starting point is 00:57:42 I don't know, do you consider that a white person party? Spicey. Most importantly, it was a bitch party because that shit was. And 90% baddies. Yeah? Damn near 95. She a body? You could have ranced.
Starting point is 00:58:00 You could have sprinted around that fucking mansion over and over and over. You wouldn't have been able to find a beat bitch. Damn. At all. I'm so glad I was not there. No, I told you and your girl that I'm glad that you didn't go because she would have beat the shit out of you. No, she said, y'all didn't hear what she said. She said, like, he can go with y'all
Starting point is 00:58:16 sometimes, just make sure he don't, like, you feel me, like, fuck no bitch. That's part of it. Take your head and put it in some pussy. You're not helping. You should have had him at all. You probably wouldn't have fucked no bitch, no way. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:58:29 No, she, she overestimates. She thinks that, like, every bitch is like, oh, lush. We were at, we were at. He would have been draining those balloons that we were, that we were taking a look at, yeah. You know me? Pass me a balloon, food. That's what I said.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Hey, real fans are going to watch that shit tomorrow and be like, aha, I found mad Easter eggs before this shit came out. Nuggets. Nuggets. And honestly, I'll say this, too. I know it's bad podcasting to revisit a previously closed topic, but there is one more thing I wanted to say. And I really want to emphasize the fact that with Raider,
Starting point is 00:59:05 I wish of no ill will, but when it came down to it, I had nothing, and I still tried to put you on again. give you a little bit of what I did have. Welcome you into my home. Get it popping. And, homie, now you're going out there smutting up a player's name. And I think that that's not very nice, my boy. I wish you the best.
Starting point is 00:59:23 God bless you. I'm not responding to the writer because that shit be telling you. The niggins don't know how quick shit could turn into a racial situation. I don't even know why he's so quick to even do that. That's what I'm going to give him a pass. Chalk it up to him being on the bender. That's what he's going to tell me when I seen him. If somebody.
Starting point is 00:59:39 I thought that you were trying to... Of course, but that excuse is not no longer applicable. I would also... This is the only person I'm going to, like, preemptibly say this about, but, you know, just because I rapped about you, doesn't mean I actually give a fuck. I just needed to rap.
Starting point is 00:59:53 I'm an artist, you know? Sure. Yeah. Use your asses content. A bar. 100%. Anybody feel free to respond. You know, have you got some shit?
Starting point is 01:00:02 Talk your shit. Thought you was a star, bitch. I just used your puck ass for a bar, bitch. Tell him. Yo, I'm excited for that. What time should we drive it tomorrow? Like 3, 4 p.m., something like that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Nice, like, coming home from work type hours. 555. Yeah, 55. Oh, that'd be funny. Free of Mac. Definitely. All right, so, 75 hard. I don't know why this just popped into my head.
Starting point is 01:00:29 I've heard. I'm not going to be hard for 75 days. I don't have enough blood in my body for that. I thought that was, like, three-quarters shit. No, no, no, no. It's basically... He does sound like a rapper is 75-H-H-H-H-R-R-R. It's a, oh before it, 075R.
Starting point is 01:00:42 It's a 75-day commitment. Myself personally, like, I live a very healthy lifestyle, but my problem, oh, you switch brands, huh? You know what? I don't know how he's got here, all right? They're here. I can't. The most worked-out shit of all time, right?
Starting point is 01:00:54 That's too much. Those these are crazy. Yeah. No, you too. You're both off limits now. Oh, yeah. So basically, like, I feel like my issue, so 75 hard, you have to, it's like no snacking and sweets and shit for, oh, yeah,
Starting point is 01:01:09 Fuck, we missed this, huh? As I put it up there before. Oh, did you? I didn't see it. Should I click on it? Yeah, you should definitely click on it. Damn, yeah, you definitely need it to, like, alert me harder. All right, we're going to do this before we have the 75 hard conversation. People out there, you know what I love?
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Starting point is 01:03:25 Run your game. Okay. Can't believe I forgot to tell you about that. But anyway, all right. You know what? All I know is I seize that. Maybe I'll just look this up. What is 75 hard so I can get you guys on the exact same page of,
Starting point is 01:03:39 what I'm supposed to do. There's no alcohol I know as a part of it, right? No alcohol, definitely part of it. Here we go. Why does Penn State Health News need to be involved with this? Okay. Two 45-minute workouts per day and one must be outside. You have to adhere to a diet.
Starting point is 01:03:59 You can pick the diet, but you can't cheat. You need to read 10 pages of a self-help or educational book. This is the first time I've seen self-help or educational. I just saw non-fiction. And then you need to drink a gallon of water and you need to take a progress picture every day. So for me, the 2 45 minute workouts per day is like pretty easy because I work out with a fucking trainer every single morning for an hour. So really all that is is I need to do like an extra half hour of cardio, which I kind of already do on an average day anyway. And then like adhering to a diet, this is like the main thing about it for me because I already drink a fucking gallon of water today.
Starting point is 01:04:33 I read books on a relatively consistent basis, although like 10 pages a day I'm going to have to actually like make sure I actually. make some time for that. But the diet is the main thing where it's like I do eat like healthy as food like every day. But then I also just fucking end of the day, it's just like crackers and cookies and shit. I just fucking raid the fridge and just eat like I feel like my brain is able to eat up to like exactly where my caloric level is supposed to be at or a little bit more. So when I try to like diet, it just fucks me up. So that to me is like the main thing that I'm like really concerned with. It's like adhering to the. workouts and then also like not snacking and I'm in the honest the last couple of days I've been
Starting point is 01:05:15 eating so much less than I'm I've kind of gotten used to eating that uh even right now like I feel like my energy levels are a little bit lower than it normally would be but 75 days is kind of crazy it's like damn near a quarter of a year um a month is yeah it's three is two and a half months yeah two and a half months so what I want to know is what was the final catalyst to this decision and did it have anything to do with seeing us and Almighty with our shirt off and the lack of willingness of flaco to remove his sweater when it was 150 degrees outside. I think Almighty taking his shirt off probably caused a lot of people to have little mini crises inside their head that day.
Starting point is 01:05:58 I'm so sorry. Almighty, I book with you. But I'm not going to lie, when I showed the plug talk girls. You're not to take a drive to South Beach are pretty soon. A couple of the plug talk girls, though, they were like, damn, I would have thought. Almighty would have had more of a cut physique going or some shit. I'm like, oh, that stinks. Not the plug-tog girl's saying it.
Starting point is 01:06:15 I know. That kind of hurt when I heard them say. Maybe you want to stand up and like catch the fade with them like on behalf of suspect, you know? Like, bitch, I'm going to fuck you with a wife beat her on. Don't worry. Yeah, but I mean, Flocko not taking his shirt off was pretty understandable. But I also, I think he would have been so gangster if he did, though. Man.
Starting point is 01:06:31 That would have been hard. That might have been like the primary meme going forth after that. Yeah. I would have been, like, very in favor. I think that would have been, like, the conversation afterwards. But he would have, it would have did him well. It would have done a very becoming towards him. Pletka would have plenty of shit to talk about after that.
Starting point is 01:06:49 And I'll give them a little. Fuck you bitch-ass broke megis, man. Yeah. That shit, like, I didn't notice until he was rapping, like, the final time that he didn't have the mask off his mouth at any point. Yeah. That's some ho-ass shit I would have called him out for it. Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 01:07:06 I said that. Why the fuck haven't you took the mask off? At least do one take with your mouth moving. I told him, I was like, if you don't know certain parts, you can mask it with the mic. You took that a little too, literally. The parts that you don't pick up on certain takes,
Starting point is 01:07:21 you pick it up on the next take. Make sure you get on that way. I mean, there's something if I'm not sure is going to make the final cut, but it's near and near to my soul. But I heard it all the way through though. Yeah. Up under the mess.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Oh, so he did know it. Yeah. When I was watching the bag, I didn't really see his fucking mouth moving at all. Yeah, no, like I heard, I was next to him. He was rapping that shit. Well, there's a moment where me and Brick were both getting sturdy and we like hit it in unison, pause, like, and it was super fire. Yeah, it was pretty gay.
Starting point is 01:07:48 That was, I said pause. And, yeah, I think if that were in the Cypher, pretty much would be equal meme ability to plot. Yeah, we did. Yeah. I was like, it was like kid in play 2024. Like, we was really sturdy as hell out. I think everybody who had to take their shirt off at a moment of like, damn, I wish I had known we were going to be wrapping with our shirts off. So I could have maybe made better decisions about food over the last couple weeks.
Starting point is 01:08:15 You don't care. Well, here's the thing. First of all, getting sturdy, I just wanted to yell out, she is smoochie. I just wanted to start using New York slang really bad. But aside from that, I feel like my physique is not worse. It's not better than Almighty's, but I have tattoos that make it look. They kind of mask it up a little bit. kind of like under tatted.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Yeah. For his overall aura. Adam, you actually didn't look bad. Yo, I saw a lot of people saying like, oh, Adam looks buff. He's getting his fitness and shape. And I'm just like, what the fuck? I'm like so much fatter right now than I was like a month or two ago. But hey, sure.
Starting point is 01:08:53 All right. I'll tell you. You look good. But you look good for somebody who like you always talk about how you can't like fight or whatever because you fucked your shit up when you got shot. No, I didn't. I said that I don't like the fight. I still can squabble.
Starting point is 01:09:06 I still, I don't ever read. I'm just, I'm not giving nobody no fades because of the shit that I've been through. So it's like, nigga, oh, no, like, all right, cool. But motherfuckers wasn't playing when we, I don't play when we get into it. Because obviously there's motherfuckers out here that don't play. Because I have been shot on multiple occasions.
Starting point is 01:09:26 So I'm not about to give you a chance to not like me later on. Like, either we figure it out or we figure it out. If we're right there in the club And we pass by each other We can't get off What we gonna get off Then we're gonna scrabble It's what it is
Starting point is 01:09:39 Because Brick had flipped the Chief Keefe bar Like he said Yeah I'm from 6-0 boy No we cannot go boy And when you Rick said that I was like You feel me?
Starting point is 01:09:49 Like yeah It makes complete sense I'm not going for that shit Mm Well now we got all the body reviews Out of the way But you know me I'm always like
Starting point is 01:10:02 I feel like I do the best when I have like sort of rigid like rules in place for myself. So it's like the working out with a trainer every morning is like that's just so much better for me than like picking and choose in what days I'm going to work out. Like I love the rigidity of just having someone come to work out with me every day. So I don't know. I'm giving in a shot. I'm definitely going to finish the 75 days. I'm already a little worried because I have a little bit of traveling in my schedule over the next couple of months. And, you know, one of the things is like you have to work.
Starting point is 01:10:32 out outdoors. And like, there's a lot of, like, most of the American cities that I would go to, I am absolutely not going outside by myself in the middle of the day. Like, why the fuck would I do that? You got to do the early morning shoot. That's when the fucking op hunters are out. At least some of them. He's going to be hitting burpees in Flint, Michigan.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Still rolling off a being. Yeah. I mean, I don't give a fuck about the outdoor thing. Like, I've been outside plenty in my life. I spent like 20 years riding BMX every day doing nothing but being outside. So to me, that part is like kind of irrelevant. But I also don't want to start fudging the details of the 75 hard, like, early on and just being like, oh, I don't care about that.
Starting point is 01:11:11 That part's not logical. Like, I want to take it serious. It seems very holistic. It seems like very hippie slanted. Like, it might smoke American spirits. I think there's an overlay between American spirit smokers and 75 hard practitioners. A hardcore version of 75 hard for me would be not smoking weed and not playing poker. because those are like hardcore addictions for me at this point.
Starting point is 01:11:33 So I don't know if I would... I don't know if I would be willing to even take that on. He's trying to get your physique together, right? The spliffs are like the sole thing tethering me to like being able to... Because Lennon asked that, she's like, maybe you should stop smoking weed for 75 days. I go, yeah, I would do that, but the thing is I'm going to live myself. Yeah, here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Yeah, here's the thing. You're not going to want to be around me. At all. You're getting beat up. Probably some other random. people are going to get swung on. I'm probably going to die. But do you see the cold part about this, though? Like him seeing his friends
Starting point is 01:12:06 shirtless and how bad we all looked? President company excluded apparently is the catalyst of inspiration to him and it wasn't like him like... It was the last time when we were shirtless. He got he got hella concerned about
Starting point is 01:12:20 his body. Oh, when? When? We did the shirtless podcast. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was high. I felt all right. Nah, you talked about it. And you said that you needed to lose weight because you looked like something. You know,
Starting point is 01:12:36 let me just put it like this. He said he looked like young in May? There was a moment where I found out that I was going to be on the cover of Penthouse, right? You were locked up for this. You probably didn't remember. But me and Leonard were on the cover of penthouse together. And when I found out, I went hardcore diet and exercise
Starting point is 01:12:52 for like two, three months leading up to that. Then when we actually do it, I was in good shape. But like they had us posed in a way where like her body was like totally covering my body, you know? So it didn't matter anyway. But that had me going hard. And then like after that I start getting more into the porn game and I'm thinking like, oh, this is going to motivate me to stay in shape.
Starting point is 01:13:14 It turns out it doesn't really work that way. You get used to everything. They like the dad body. It might keep me from being like, you know, 50 pounds heavier than I am now, but it's not really keeping me from like losing that last like 20 pounds that I really want to lose. So I feel like the 75 heart is, I just need something to make. me like take shit a little bit more
Starting point is 01:13:31 serious. Are you going to be buffers all small? I mean primarily what I'm doing is like calorie restricting so probably a little bit more small. You're going to get small before you get buff. Seeds? Or actually not true at all but. Seeds and lettuce all day. Seeds? Yeah. I feel like seeds
Starting point is 01:13:47 are probably pretty high calorically. Maybe. You're walking around with a bag of sunflower seeds? I don't know. No, no, no, no. I'm talking about like pumpkin seeds and all the other seeds. I never really thought about that. Is he on a baseball team? What's going on?
Starting point is 01:14:02 Inside your salad with like a grain or something. I was watching baseball the other day when I was playing poker. They had a baseball game on. There's a player, apparently very, very popular. His last name on his jersey. K-I-K-E. Kite. Okay, okay, hold on a second.
Starting point is 01:14:21 No, he's like Hispanic or some shit. That's Kike. That's Kike, which is like short for Henry. Like Enrique, that's like Henry. I was a little taking a back. Nike's just signing. Honestly, that might hold them back. What?
Starting point is 01:14:35 How many of those jerseys are you really going to sell? I'm wearing that. How do you not have a little line over the E or some shit? The air kikis? But I figured that out. Nike off everywhere to take the end and put the Kajai right there. That's amazing, bro. You know, I was a, there's a spot in downtown L.A.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Back in the day by like Fourth in Bodry, whatever. And it was called Kike's Tacos. I was like, what? Kikes tacos? What the fuck is wrong with these fools? I was tripping. Then I found out what it was. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:15:00 I think we need to get a Lush on like a crazy fitness journey. That would be pretty fast. For me, just as like a fan, I would be fascinated watching that play out. No, even like my girl's really adamant about this. And I have lost like 20 pounds.
Starting point is 01:15:12 She's adamant about you getting in shape. Yeah. We should live stream of rehab for 14 days, me and Lish. Yeah. Like fucking detoxing in this room. Would you guys be down to me? You should be shit and pills and all that.
Starting point is 01:15:25 This is a thing that we've discussed in the past. Like lock people in the no jump, office for like a week or a month or whatever like could you live here for a month yeah it depends i for sure could i wish i for sure see for something like that i wish i don't have a kid because that's like the sole thing that's like why would i put myself through that if i didn't have a kid and it was going to be some freak show shit that people were going to be excited about i would for sure do it i mean in the name of content the only thing that gives me a slight aversion to it is that just there's almost like a yuryish connotation like like it's thirsty yeah yeah i'm
Starting point is 01:15:56 stream 24 hours in the studio being lesbian. Remember the fucking be saying with his bitch ass. You feel me like... Yuri's gonna have a tough day tomorrow. Allegedly. He's in Northern California with his new
Starting point is 01:16:12 thing going on. He should be straight. Yeah, he's cool. He got a new thing going on. You're my little boot thing. Jeez, Louise. I don't know. All right. So, let him move up. You wouldn't move up North. You wouldn't move up
Starting point is 01:16:26 North Whitter? Me? I'm not moving up north than anybody. Fuck that place. I'll go visit. Don't do the yay like that. Making sure you are in the bitch. You have evolved societies and then you have slightly less evolved societies.
Starting point is 01:16:42 So is the connotation here that the Bay Area is less evolved in Los Angeles? Yeah. Of course. We're out of course. We're now. Hi, there's there. But it is. It's like the rappers aren't as popular. They got no porn stars. San Francisco. What are we talking about? The tech guys.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Right. And so if you're coming from that perspective, you're probably looking at it. Because there's a lot of different ways to view it. The guys in the poker world, the guys who live in Vegas, they look at the poker dudes that live in L.A. Like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Starting point is 01:17:08 It's like a stupid fucking place to live if you want to play poker. Yeah. So I get it, you know. I mean, they're less, they got less going on up there. Yeah. For us.
Starting point is 01:17:16 For sure. For hip-hop. What I will say is that. That's important on. Nobody's stopping through either. It's not like a, hey, stop through. Like, we could get a pot in. that.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You might not want to shock them. It's been, honestly, especially nowadays, like, my prayers are with Oakland, you know, and the Bay, because it's probably the darkest period in Oakland since the, I mean, late 80s, early 90s for show over 20 years. Like, five, six of my close friends and family members, like hard drives and computers and shit. Oh, yeah, that's when it happened.
Starting point is 01:17:47 What are you doing? Yeah, cars get bipped. They don't need a computer behind because, like, everybody's like. Crimack got bipped when we brought him to the battle up there. you feel me like he did I didn't even know that did they steal the code 45 from him I mean no
Starting point is 01:18:01 what is it oh English Krip Mac would never drive with an open container or have an open container I'm saying he probably almost always does yeah but okay it was a guy up north who came down here and robbed J. Main's car behind no jumper
Starting point is 01:18:15 that wasn't even a local crime by the way and the Bipping is slowly migrating to the downtown and downtown adjacent it ain't slowly that shit is going on everywhere. So just be yeah, Trucho. Park your car, they write your shit, period.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Right. It could happen. But like, look, I love the, I'll never say that like the Bay sucks. There is less civilized. What I will say is this. When it comes to the industry, much lower ceiling. When it comes to, like, the amount of people, like, is that you rock with and all that and you're able to
Starting point is 01:18:47 bus moves with, the Bay is unparalleled. There's, like, amazing networking, amazing people, and it's hell of fun. If I want to be a drug dealer, for sure, I'll move up there. But even then it's slimy. But, you know what I mean? It seems like a lot of opportunity up there. But for like rap industry shit,
Starting point is 01:19:03 there's shit going on, but it's not like down here. And also, nobody really is going to go up there. That's what I said. Nobody's stopping by. It'd be dope to be like the big dog in town if I was like, if I just moved up there for some reason. But it's like, there's nobody stopping by. I mean, check this out though.
Starting point is 01:19:19 I left, when I moved out of L.A. When I was 19 years old, I was effectively a nobody. You feel me? My little homies, or my homies knew who I was, and I'm just a regular ass dude. Moved up to the bay, put in a lot of work out there because I knew. Shit, I'm not brick, baby. I can't fucking move to ATL and get a deal and be like, you feel me, a pop and rap star. I'm too outside the box.
Starting point is 01:19:40 But I want to pursue this thing. Shit, where's the independent market at? Up in the bay. I go up there, get it cracking to the point where, shit, I became a larger fish in a if I'm a culture voucher I'm a California condor you remember when Houdrich Pablo went to the DMV
Starting point is 01:20:02 and just became like a DMV rapper like he just brought all his Atlanta swag down there took that flow I was in jail for his ride but he made he like got a whole thing going as a result of like kind of being like a fly-ass Atlanta dude going to an area where there's not as many dudes dressing like that
Starting point is 01:20:20 yeah yeah But then he's like fucking with their flow and their style and shit and that shit worked for him crazy at that time. And he got an indictment behind that. Well, he also happened to him. Was that in the DMV area? No, I think that was in Atlanta. No, it wasn't in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:20:35 It wasn't. It was another state. Oh, shit. Yeah, that's all. I'll be honest. But I mean, they're depending on anybody. But, yeah, no, it's definitely, like, smart to go to those little markets that are, like, obsessed with your culture.
Starting point is 01:20:48 If you can sit there and build, your own fan base and market right there, they're gonna flock to you because it's new to them. It's something like you're the out of town. You're the guy out, so I'm gonna come fuck with you because we could touch you. You know what I'm saying? We can't touch Chris Brown and all these other people.
Starting point is 01:21:08 And here's the secret. And Brick understood this, and this is one of the reasons why I'm assuming he went out there is because our city, especially back then, now we show a little more love to our own. But for a long-ass time, we hated on our side. You had to get it popping somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:21:24 I was in college. Don't give me that much credit. I went to school out there. So, yeah, he's not as calculated as I might have assumed. I thought that shit gave me a flyer car. I thought you were smart and went out there like you feel like me like. But they talk about him going to Atlanta
Starting point is 01:21:36 like he PCed up or something. Nah, but it's like, I mean. But that's an L.A. fucking brain disease that if you ever went and lived anywhere else, it's like, oh, you must have been running for something. Are you just like pussyed out? They said I got shot and they moved out there. I'm like, bro, I moved out.
Starting point is 01:21:50 there when I was 17, nigga, I got shot out here when I was 19, 20 years old for the first time. When I got shot again, nigga, I lived out here. I was back and forth. I never fully lived in Atlanta,
Starting point is 01:22:01 but the fucking nine months I was in school for the first year. Any of my friends that were not to go to college. I'm calling it in a car. Yeah, like, yeah, I went to college. That's PC for you,
Starting point is 01:22:12 whatever. But sure. All right. Ignorant. Yeah, I know, I'm not doing that. I just want to say, Big shout out to our partners over at Don Londres. Don Londres.
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Starting point is 01:22:57 Shout out to Don Laundress and let's get back into it. Yo, I just want to say. It's kind of a... Londraia! They're not even ready to know about that song. Loz is Don't. Yo, they're not ready. I feel like, I got that big, none late.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Yo, I was showing Lennon of that shit. She's like, is this super viral? I'm like, no, not yet. What it's going at? Not the Don Julio's Yeah, yeah We don't, Don Julio's an op
Starting point is 01:23:22 We fuck with Don Londres But It's just better Don't Donne That shit going Oh my God Oh my God Yo, but that song
Starting point is 01:23:31 Holly TV You're gonna be a superstar You're gonna be like Lil Nas X without the butt sex I'm gonna be real Somewhere in between Lil Nas X and take you to the movies Ben
Starting point is 01:23:43 I want to know Does that guy have like an official deformity Because it kind of has like a bowling ball type thing on the back of his head. It's almost like a shag, but it's like the whole back of his head. But I know that shit's lit because I said it's a fucking Roddy
Starting point is 01:23:55 Rebel the other day, and he just immediately starts singing it. He knew exactly what I was talking about. Damn. Yeah, no, I think they know about New York. That's like a New York song. Oh, that song is so New Yorked out, like when you watch the video and all those dudes. But they're never going to get actually embraced by
Starting point is 01:24:11 Don Julio because the beginning of the video is like him and all his homies, like itching fiends. and for fucking tequila. And they're like running around the house looking everywhere and like freaking out. I'm like, so when you tell the truth,
Starting point is 01:24:24 it's a problem. Yeah, but I can't be the commercial. Oh, that would be the most progressive marketing trend. I can't imagine waking up in the morning and like needing liquor to start the day. Nor does that sound fun at all.
Starting point is 01:24:36 I don't do that. Like I, do you know those type of people? No. I'm just so far past that in my life. Like, not anymore. Not anymore.
Starting point is 01:24:44 But for sure, like there's girls who I know who are kind of like that. but I'm not like around them like that. I'm talking about like orange juice. Like, yeah, I've never been that kind of person. With the eggs and pancakes. Do you see him trying to get this joke up?
Starting point is 01:24:58 Yeah, we're the Homer Simpson meme, all right? Yes, you're talking about me, motherfucker. But like, you do be having your little joint too. Yeah, but I got that little. I got that little. I know. I feel bad when I'm around like real weed heads and I'm smoking those little things.
Starting point is 01:25:14 And like, they got like gigantic Brian Pumper size Blunts and I'm just like, oh, God. Yo, bro. I was talking about him. He'd be having his pocket shot on him. Yeah, be about those buzz balls. Yo, they're geniuses for putting that shit around a string when you buy it to the store so you can rock it
Starting point is 01:25:29 like a necklace. That is crazy. They should ban that, honestly. I'm going to bust mine down. Dude, I want to play that song so bad. It comes out while he's like giving it Cloud like, oh yeah, it's so hard. Like, they should ban. You know, I actually told him that we were thinking about
Starting point is 01:25:44 making a remix and he didn't even respond to me, I don't think. fucking Holly TV. He's getting big-headed already. He's already out of here. He got Kaisanax. No, but he does seem like he appreciates us shouting him out and shit. My vote is he doesn't even know how to use his Instagram. Yeah, he might not
Starting point is 01:26:01 have, he might not be his tech savvy. Oh, wait, wait, wait, hold on. I told him we might do a remix of that song and he sent me a three second response. Let's see what he said. That was not cap. That is actually what he was wrong.
Starting point is 01:26:20 He said, dude, That shit. By Ron Deletcher. Yo, I did it because I'm just going to expose all his private messages. This dude, I used his song for a condomit trick, and this was his response. What fuck that shit did? Hey, fucking, yo, no ditty. Who fucking did he?
Starting point is 01:26:41 What is happening? I feel like that's his, like, attitude on, like, so many people fucking with that song that they, like, can't believe it. Yo, I'm going to go to his Instagram. Let's, let's. He's going to have, like, he's going to have, like, he's going to have. like a reel that we can play even though we don't want to play the whole song just to give people like a little how many followers he had uh he got he got light he got light too late that shit probably fake is kidding just kidding i'm not gonna get that's like that's like a brooklyn jane we're taking shots at
Starting point is 01:27:11 brooklyn and open you think it just went up over the last couple days because it wasn't up like that the day you didn't hear that buzzing no what happened Did you break something? I think the little Don. Don. Are we still live? I ain't seen anything in the chat. That's his name.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Don. Check, check, check. Don. Don. Don. Yeah, but Don he's freaking out. Don. Don.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Don. Don. Don. Don. Don. Don. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Yeah. Did anything happen with the sound or anything? They're acting like they heard a sound and then it went back to normal. We okay? Is there an echo? Somebody said, I don't know if I believe him, though. I remember. He just got a double-dick.
Starting point is 01:27:53 head he ain't got no deformity it's like double oh they said it echoed but now it's over I think he got like a long head I would say there's other things that jump out of me is closer to deformities than that look at the eyes no but okay that's a different song too I like he needs to have one pin this is the this is the music video but I want to play the fucking music I want to play like a clip of him dancing around and shit down yeah go here go there Yeah. It was one that's 28. Oh. Is it the one where he's getting that?
Starting point is 01:28:31 This is him singing like Glorill. He's drinking the little half bottle and shit. A win a straw. Yeah. With his straw. It's crazy. Is that the reposado he's drinking? That's like...
Starting point is 01:28:49 That's 42. Yeah, yeah. That's what I say. But he drinks the 42 as and just calls it Don. I don't even understand. Oh, yeah. That's the God. I ain't even get my head.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Cambr and dog. He's like, what happened? If you can't break don't you It is out there, bro Let me just You imagine that many cups With that little bottle? Bro, you're tripping
Starting point is 01:29:16 I don't know I'm not even gonna get some dong on drinks Let me give him like 20 seconds of this Oh I meant Don Don, don't Don't don't Don't
Starting point is 01:29:46 This is really putting me in a pickle The sponsor and the song that we like, directly conflicting? Yeah, no, Don Landreus is the best. It tastes way better than that. It actually does, though, like no cat. Like, like legitimately, like, yeah. They got to get on there.
Starting point is 01:30:03 No, yeah, they got to get on our shit. Okay, what are we doing here? We gave some love to our boy. It's kind of... That was important. It's kind of interesting. You see, like, the sponsors coming back to no jumper realizing,
Starting point is 01:30:15 you feel me? This is a viable place to... Well, I've been doing business with Dre London for a little bit. We've been talking about it and shit. so we finally made it happen, but yeah, I'm pretty hyped. All right, let's do this story because I put it in the title, so we have to. Mick Mill goes off on Wack 100. Nobody can verify where you came from.
Starting point is 01:30:31 Let's see what Meek had to say. Oh, here we go. It's just a tweet. I thought it was going to be a video. Never been to a support the hood day. Nobody can verify where you came from. Talking a lot on Clubhouse. Yeah, he in a program for sure, for sure.
Starting point is 01:30:46 And only Meek would link an Instagram reel and a TikTok in the same tweet. This isn't even the right platform. You could have done this natively. You could have uploaded two separate videos if you knew how to download them, which in TikTok, you can just literally hit a button to download it. Online with a fake extortion story speaking on killing a famous person, L.O.L. So this does suffer from the same usual Meek Mill style autism that you see in most of his online communication. But, I mean, never been, I'm already like picturing whack refuting some of these declarations on our next podcast.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Never been to a support the hood day. I don't know about that. Nobody can verify where you came from. That's not true. This is 100% not true. No matter how much you dislike, wag, you got to give him credit. He's from where he's from, and he rolls around with people from where he's from. I can personally say I've met people from his hood and they, yeah, he's from where he says he's from.
Starting point is 01:31:37 That's not true. Yeah, that shit is, uh, that's weird to me that he was put out fake accusations like this. I don't know. I was kind of surprised to see Meek jumping into this one. Meeks off the dirty batch, bro. He might be off that Don. He got that little Don. He off that tosy.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Meek just Meek basically just said like Nicky stop talking about me. He's bringing up. He looked up a couple topics on the internet and ran with that. Right. Built the narrative around it.
Starting point is 01:32:09 I had somebody telling me to stop talking about them this weekend, but I'm not going to get into that story. I'm going to keep that in the tuck for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We go cool on that. Beyond the egregious. abuse of the app formerly known as Twitter, now known as X's terms of service, by posting not only an Instagram and a TikTok link. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:32:30 I don't know if I've ever seen that move before. Very, I mean, clearly farming engagement, not mad at it. But he's not a strategy cotton. All right. If you link to an outside platform in your tweet, then you're going to get less distribution and reach on the platform. Linking to a real and a TikTok when Twitter offers almost exactly. exactly the same functionality as both of those platforms when it comes to short form video.
Starting point is 01:32:53 I don't know, man. Like, maybe you just need, like, a Twitter lesson, like a Skillshare class or something. Is he showing his age? For show, except it's like an age that's actually way older than he is. Right. Well, you know. He's showing unage. It's just like an age that's a lot older than where he's at.
Starting point is 01:33:09 Perkins has an issue being little cheese steaks for years. That's going to... You believe that? You think he's a perkins? No, I'm just saying... Hair it out, Lush. What I will say is that... love Philly. It's one of my favorite cities. I spent a lot of time out there. I lived there for
Starting point is 01:33:22 like over a year, right? People look a lot older in Philadelphia than they do in general most. And this is coming from somebody. Just in general? I would say like per capita if you're comparing major metropolitan areas in the United States. Would you say that about the East Coast as a whole? Yes, definitely about the East Coast as a whole. Yeah, I agree with. Philadelphia, I would say, is on the higher, the older looking side of things. I don't know it's because you got that good Trank. They got the good Trank. Y'all have to shovel snow, all kinds of weird shit. You tried the Trank? No, I never tried Trank. I've just seen it hyped up in the YouTuber vlogs, Brandon Bunganham and Tommy G. I've seen them
Starting point is 01:33:58 addressing it on the blog. And Skrilla told me a little bit about it. Yeah, it's, you know, like, it's essentially like if you combine, it's like opiate moonshine. Is it really? It's great. Well, it's like homebrewed. It's not real. Like it's like, you ever, you ever heard of Crocodile? Like the shit they have? Yes. And when I went to Rush. I saw a lot of people suffering from crocodile. Okay. I thought it was crocodile.
Starting point is 01:34:21 Crocodile. That's how they say. It's crocodile, yes. It's essentially... Are you want a sick one right now? What do you mean? I mean, the sleeves rolled up. And you're just kind of giving me, like,
Starting point is 01:34:33 a little bit higher than normal average energy level. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, nah, fool, like... I just like that I got to call it a sick one. A seek one. As long as I'm entertaining. as long as... I'm not mad at it.
Starting point is 01:34:55 What's coursing through your veins, though? Not crocodile. Not crocodile. Crocodile makes more sense than crocodile, which is already an animal. Look, so I like Adderall. Oh, okay. I like Adderall.
Starting point is 01:35:09 I mean, like, look, if I'm... I'm trying to get off all that shit, right? Like, if I'm a key... I'm just keeping in a sec. Like, you know, I was taking a lot of the benzos, and that I'm making me hell of tired. My girl's like, damn, why, you always tired? Get your ass up, da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 01:35:22 She'd go out of Molling. she up, rise with the sun-ass motherfucker. I'm like, damn, bitch, you feel me? It's like, 615 can I sleep? She's like, no, get up. I'm like, I'm like, for a show. You feel me? I'm on your program, apparently. And so I kind of like... So you stay up later
Starting point is 01:35:37 than her, or she just gets up off like three hours sleep? No, I stay up later than her, and like, you know, eventually I started compensating, like, you know, some occasional adderol. So take an Adderall, not for your job or for a hobby, but just to keep up with your girl's energy level. It's for my job because it got to the point where like I was having just really low energy.
Starting point is 01:36:01 It was difficult for me to get going. I'm waking up. I'm getting tired easily. You know, non-sexual referring to it because like this doesn't, apparently she said it's not part of what she meant. But she said, I need to improve my stamina and not talking sexually. So, you know, so then I figured out it would be a good way to offset that. But now she's like, you got to start working out. Yeah, that is. I'm gonna be real with you. Like, I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve because I know tomorrow
Starting point is 01:36:28 I'm gonna get such a bizarre amount of feedback from the rap community, the No Jumbra fans, et cetera, from the song. And I'm like so excited because I'm not only excited about them seeing my shit, but I'm excited about them seeing everybody's shit because I'm like genuinely impressed by everybody. And when I think about it, name a podcast crew
Starting point is 01:36:50 that could step to us in terms of what we put together. Now, I will give it to the AMP Cipher. They really kind of snapped, especially for dudes who, like, most of them I don't think have ever even, like, made music. They make music every year.
Starting point is 01:37:03 They do all, oh, every year, they do a Cipher? They do a Cipher, yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Either way, their shit was very, very impressive to me. But when you think about all the big hip-hop podcast, yeah, I don't know. There's not many, like, hip-hop podcasts that are, like, a bunch of dudes. Because, like, obviously, Norie could make a dope song.
Starting point is 01:37:19 Joe Button, too. I was just thinking about button. But he retired as he got real serious about the podcast shit, and none of those other dudes wrapped. Last time I heard him on a song was, I think, pump it up. You guys will get that one tomorrow. Wait a minute, wait, has Queensflip wrapped? Queensflip is the show match.
Starting point is 01:37:39 He was doing everything for a while there, right? Queensflips, sidekick anthem nine years ago. Come on, man. Look at Soldier Flip in the thumbnail. Let's go. Filial. That looks like a still from the Gucci bandana video. The Sidekick 3.
Starting point is 01:37:54 It looks like a still from the fucking Craig that Soul's boy. He got the Sidekick 3 fucking template. I think we all missed the sidekick. What? We could definitely see. Why is it recommending chicken noodle soup? Was he in this as well? I mean, Flip might have his own version of chicken noodle soup.
Starting point is 01:38:13 I doubt it. It would be called Chicken Noops. Yo, I, uh, what the fuck do to this bitch face? Oh shit, this is a daughter I take it back Oh my No, but he like Yeah, it just looks like
Starting point is 01:38:23 It's like It's like No disrespect My bad My bad No disrespect No disrespect And I remember back in the day
Starting point is 01:38:28 I had a battle rap event Because you know Flip come from battle rap I don't know if you know Oh really Yeah he'd be But he wasn't like a battle rapper But he was
Starting point is 01:38:35 Big in the battle rap scene He used to come to advance It was a media personality Oh he'd been funny as hell And he had beef with a battle rapper At the time The homie DNA And they was like
Starting point is 01:38:47 There was a battle going on I'm on ecstasy at per usual. We in Toronto. I'm hosting the battle and motherfucking Queens flipping DNA about the fucking squabble in the middle of the damn crowd. Like they're going back and forth talking to DNA yelling on this barking
Starting point is 01:39:02 on this full flip talking about. I was like, yeah. So yeah, flips and entertaining, dude. I've seen him do some wild shit. Interesting. You see that he wiped his, uh, his Instagram. So he's like starting from scratch. He's not a skit guy anymore.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Oh, okay. You know? Well, it's all the time pot. Shit. I mean, I mean, that's what, like, at a certain point... He ain't known for skits. He's no...
Starting point is 01:39:21 Well, yeah, yeah. Don't do that one. But the, like, I don't know. Like, I respect that. Like, at a certain point in your life, if you want people to treat you like something other than what you have been previously, you got to do something abrupt to sort of like get rid... Because realistically, if he doesn't do skids for a couple years,
Starting point is 01:39:39 people are going to forget he ever fucking did it, or they're just at least not going to, like, immediately associate that with him. But I can understand how that stuff kind of... that becomes your brand at a certain point because a clip of you screaming in Mano's face on the street, even if it's fake, is so much more attention-getting than whatever you're going to do podcasting-wise that it's like, it's going to be hard to overpower that shit. What's, I got to be honest, I haven't watched enough Flip on button. Like, what's, how would you describe Flip's podcasting style?
Starting point is 01:40:10 I would say that he brings something to the table just in terms of like energy, existing fan base, etc. I watch his energy. but he i would say it's not the most cohesive fit but also like they are doing something kind of crazy because they have like literally six people on mike which that is a hard dynamic to maintain you see it with us we have plenty of interrupting and talking over each other that if we had an additional three people it's just like certain people are going to have to know how to play their role and and we see it when we fucking try to bring people on here with us it's like it's hard for them to even exist when you have three people who are really like ready to talk at all the time
Starting point is 01:40:46 Certain people are going to have to know how to play their role. And it's just, it becomes way more of like a very complicated game once you have like six hosts. That's true. We're made way more talented than most people. But I think that they have a thing like where the topic, Joe introduces the topic, he speaks his piece. I've been watching certain. And it's like a rotation. And I think that they keep that rotation unless it's like somebody else who's introducing the topic that might know it.
Starting point is 01:41:16 bit more than the rest of the cast. You get what I'm saying? It's also like, you know, you got to look at the population density. New York has so many people. You need six on the pod. Yeah, it just got to make sense. Also, look at my expert opinion, also had like a gang of fools on the pot sometimes it would look like, so, you know.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Yeah, but that shit was a goddamn mess as well, right? Like the Lick podcast, it's like, shit going on over here, here. Yeah. It's going on that motherfucker. Like, it's fun. I like this. idea of us bringing additional people on
Starting point is 01:41:49 and if I found somebody who I thought was really great I would be open to it but it's like if we had even one more person we would have to work a lot more diligently to like maintain the appropriate volume level and like not talk over each other like it would just be way harder. He'd have to be
Starting point is 01:42:05 more professional than me and Lush. Yeah for sure. He would have to be more of a like podcast since like you know what I mean like no one to talk word like to insert himself because So it should be Raider? No.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, fool. So, do you think that bitch like me? That's what he would do. He'd like, stop the conversation. You think he's about to, like, actually use his, like, interrupting card wisely and, like, say something important.
Starting point is 01:42:35 And then it would be the dumbest thing you've ever heard. He really tried to play me, huh? Yeah. Some shit. Yeah. One time he said, you ever wiped your ass and tried to smell droach? Exactly. He said, dude, what?
Starting point is 01:42:46 Bro, you don't think I think about that every day. But I hold it back. I don't say it on here. Life his ass and smell it? He's saying. You never done that? Like, not with shit on it. I mean, I mean, you're lying.
Starting point is 01:42:59 You get a drop, a clean sweep and then you smell it. Like, until what age? No, high school. In life, in life, I doubt I've done that in the last 20 years. Yeah, that's what I'm like. As a kid. But in high school, I took a whiff of my own shit. It might happen.
Starting point is 01:43:13 You were exploring yourself. And you really hate to have the shit that close to your face because you really, like you just wiped your ass. I got a weak stomach. You're breaking it apart and you're really getting to see like what is in your show. No, no, no. I'm not doing that. So we basically just hyper-analyzed the horrible question that we're just to play. The problem with him, as a grown man, we were talking about something important when he brought that up. Yes, we were. No, not right now. But at that time, we're having like a good conversation with Swifty and then he stops the conversation to say, do you ever smell the toilet paper after you wipe
Starting point is 01:43:41 your ass? Right. I'm sorry, get out. As a grown man, after you. After you, you wipe and you still feel a little itch, you're allowed it to... That's what I'm... Okay, so you just answer it. Yeah, I mean, like, it's nothing there, but it's itching a little. Maybe it's like some clear shit right there.
Starting point is 01:43:57 You smell the toilet paper when there's almost nothing on it? There's nothing on it. I'll smell my hand to see if I should wash my hands. You should wash your hands. How about that? Yeah, but sometimes I feel like I just did such an incredible job wiping my ass that I don't need to wash my hands. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 01:44:12 Not if I really banged it out of the park. If your girlfriend Or if you know Who knows, then It's just the fact that you I mean, nine times out of ten I'm not getting shit on my hands Nine
Starting point is 01:44:25 What about like 9.8? Yeah, I was going to say like, no, like 19 out of 20 I feel like I get shit on my hand Once a year That's what I was about to say You're allowed to be high and just like Oh, what's that wet shit? Fuck.
Starting point is 01:44:39 It's diarrhea days. Worst feeling. And it's just right there you're like, oh, fuck. or are you like sleep halfway and you think that you got the paper around right here and you're like lower no but that is the worst is when you're not even really awake and you just like are you have the shit in the middle of the night and and I'm keeping the lights down because I don't want to wake myself up by sitting in a bright-ass room for three minutes taking a shit so I keep the lights down then I'm wiping my ass in the dark and then I fuck up I got put the lights on I got to wash my hands all this is gonna fuck on my
Starting point is 01:45:14 sleep. You can't just use your phone light to gauge proper wiping. How'd the fuck me use the phone light and the fucking wiper? No, but you put the flashlight on and then you just put it down so you got like a little bit of a... You know what I noticed a lot of people with? They'll have the suction cup thing on here so you can just boom, stick it on the mirror of the wall and just like talking to it. Yeah, my girl has an ice here using it constantly. I thought it's for the car, but that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:45:42 It's for that. That's for a lot of things. But like, okay, it doesn't make sense for the light on your phone because it would be facing the other one. You could just, look, man, I'm just trying to help out here, right? I don't have a problem up. No, you're trying to bully us into wiping our ass and then washing our hands. I just think, shit.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Yeah, you have to. I just think shitting in the dark is absolutely diabolical. We've got to be honest. You know what I'm shooting in the dark? I'd prefer a little bit of light. The thing is? If I wake up out of my sleep, if I wake up out of my sleep, if I wake up out of my sleep to take a shit, there's a pretty good chance that this is not going to be like a nice.
Starting point is 01:46:13 easy shit. It's probably going to be an explosive shit. It would be an explosive West Coast shit. Would you go to the bathroom in your room when you know it's explosive? You're definitely on that roll. Are you Because I'm smart? Well, no, because I said the word explosive and you're like, oh, I'm going to tie this in by just naming a super famous son
Starting point is 01:46:33 that says the word explosive. No, no. West Coast shit. Yeah. It was a shit. I'm fired, guys. Sorry. I was talking about it. I was talking about shit. I fucked it all. No, this is an important question.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Do you go to the other bathroom or do you go to the bathroom that everybody's in? If you know it's going to, you try to sneak out the room real quick and run back? I go to the one in the hall. Because I can make more noise there. My girl's not going to hear it. Because I have like the things. the fan, that's in the hall. That's not in the main bathroom.
Starting point is 01:47:17 I don't really want my girl to be like sleeping. Does your girl do it? Have I ever heard her shit during my sleep? No. Well, my girl needs to go to the hallway. She's, damn, she got a loud one. That's crazy. She got a loud pack.
Starting point is 01:47:33 My girl booming, she seems like she can just shit. It's quiet. I don't think I ever heard her to take a loud shit. No, no, no. It's not all the time, but I've been walking up. Yeah, like, hey. She's about to kill me, but I will. Guess what?
Starting point is 01:47:52 You guys have multiple restrooms in your house. I don't have this luxury. You like. Oh, yeah. I'm still tormented by nightmares of when I used to be, like, when I lived in Austin, the girl that I dated for like two months, her room, bathroom, like right across the hall and we're drinking so much. Oh, that's alcohol.
Starting point is 01:48:12 I am just absolutely tearing that shit to shred. Middle of the night, early morning. I'm just everything. Oh, God. Not good. Have you, like, have you spent a lot of time? She kicked you out over that shit? She never really, like, picked up on it from what I could tell, but.
Starting point is 01:48:25 Yes, she did. She just didn't say any. Maybe, I don't know. You kicked it overseas, like, in Europe to the point where you've actually, like, not just been in hotels, but gone to people's houses in, like, France and different parts of Europe before? And had to deal with bathrooms that the toilet barely works? No, the toilet's in a motherfucking separate room in the sink. And that's like standard practice.
Starting point is 01:48:44 That's the majority. The toilet is in a different room than the sink. The toilet's in a room by itself. You take a shit. You have to leave the room, enter a different room, which has the sink and the shower in it. I feel like that has broke shit because that has happened to me in like hotel. Like I stand in a hostel in France. And the bathroom in your room has a bidet.
Starting point is 01:49:08 And like you get piss in it, I guess and stuff. but if you want to take a shit, you have to go to the communal bathroom in the hall that, like, nine different rooms use. You can piss in a bidet. Why not? I don't believe that's the intended purpose of a bidet.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Yeah, but it's like pissing in the sink. You can do it. I mean, can you pee in the bidet? Don't pee in a bidet. A bidet is not a toilet. You're not supposed to urinate in it, ever. They were making this so explicit. The toilet is for toileting.
Starting point is 01:49:40 While the bidet is for a cleanup job that comes after you've done your business. But I mean, I feel like the bidet is capable of taking like a small amount of liquid. No, I think it ensue, considering like it gets ass juice. It's going to leave a nasty smell. It's got a fucking drain. Too many pitch jobs. Yeah, the drain has shit stuck to the walls of it. Dude, I puked in a bidet.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Oh, man. That was like a year and a half ago. That's just shows how progressive you are. You're really ahead of the curve here. I couldn't tell if I was. hung over or if it was I ate some bad fish the night before because I did both. I got drunk as fuck and I
Starting point is 01:50:16 ate bad fish or fish that could have been bad. There's something about for sure fish is like the most like diuretic inducing form of meat. It's delicate, yeah. Yeah, you got to need. You know, I am seeing a lot of people saying that they pee in the bidet.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Honestly, I think peeing in the nasty fuckers. But you're not supposed to. Yeah, you're nasty. Talk about broke shit. Peeing in the bidet? Get the fuck out of you. I have an expansive view of urinating and epigating. And say that you're supposed to piss in the shower to save water. Yeah, well, I mean, I do that all the time. I definitely pissing the shower constantly.
Starting point is 01:50:52 Oh, yeah, of course, yeah, every day. Yeah, I'm a shower piss. Shower can get this work regardless of what it is. Yeah, if I'm in the shower with somebody, I'm going to piss all over them, too. That's my favorite. Yeah, you. My wife. Not anyone else, realistically.
Starting point is 01:51:06 And Chappelle was the best. That was one of my favorite parts. growing the Shapil show. And him holding up the big ass bucket that said R. Kelly's doodoo butter on it. That's the best one. I did a podcast with a girl the other day, and we, within five minutes of starting it,
Starting point is 01:51:24 completely agreed about the fact that we both don't feel the need to shower nearly as much as other people, which I kind of felt like I met my soulmate in a way. Oh, is he white? Yes. Oh, what a shocker. Okay, this was my sole statement is, every time I'm going to leave the house, I'm going to shower for anything even slightly professional. But if I get home
Starting point is 01:51:45 Friday and I don't leave the house until Monday morning, there's a pretty good chance I'm not showering between Friday evening and Monday morning. That's just me. That's me. I don't feel like I need to. I feel so validated. I hope I know my fucking girlfriend. Germ, I know you watching this shit. And guess what? It's normal. If I'm not leaving the house, why do I have to shower? So you're on board. Yes. I felt like you were one of the people hating on me for saying this during the Custer era. I probably was. Custer era. I'm going to stick with that. The Custer era is amazing.
Starting point is 01:52:16 If my ball starts sticking to my leg, it's time to go. Yeah. It's time to go. I wouldn't even know what my balls were doing unless I really like, I don't know. Yeah, if you get up and it's damp down there, it's time to get in the shower. If I was thinking about dunking my balls in my girl's mouth, for sure
Starting point is 01:52:32 I need to take a shower before I do that. If we're going to have sex and I haven't showered in 24 hours, for sure I need to take a shower. Am I annoyed and pissed off? And do I think it's worth it? Not really, but I'm going to do it. Damn, because I thought she didn't love me because she's the same way. And she's like, you got to shower first. I was like, damn, if you really love me, you feel me take this essence.
Starting point is 01:52:49 But you probably had dirty dick. You've had girls in your life that wanted your dick to stink, right? Of course, absolutely. Why don't I ever end up in relationships with those ones? I feel like they're undatable. What, the musty dick group? Girls who want your dick to stink? Well, if they...
Starting point is 01:53:04 Yeah, nobody likes them. That's what's a, it's always like the grimyest whore ever. Yeah, I mean, even during hard. decor era Adam, BMX, Adam never encountered a woman that enjoyed like, no, for sure, I just didn't end up dating them. Yeah, it's like, that bitch, when you think about it, like, this bitch takes my
Starting point is 01:53:20 sweaty dick, and sometimes I do it on purpose. I had a bitch that was, like, so ugly at high school, the only way that you could suck my dick is, like, after basketball pregnant. I have to disrespect you the odor. No, it was like nighttime, so I was like, bitch, when we walk home from school, like, we can hit
Starting point is 01:53:36 a cut or something, but I'm not getting in the shower at school, so you have to suck That's grimy. I wasn't in a relationship for 10 years. Really? 2006 to 2016, I pretty much wasn't in a relationship more than like a month. Maybe, like, there was one time I did it
Starting point is 01:53:53 for like three months that felt kind of serious, but I mean, how serious can it be in three months, you know? What's the most? It can get serious. 10 years, I just like... Three months is almost marriage. For you, possibly. But for me...
Starting point is 01:54:05 If you can find a girl to stick around for three months with my type of behavior, her type of behavior, she's almost the roller. Yeah, but then she gets the road. She gets the road. She's out of there. That was one of the only times in my life that I didn't, like, tell her to get the fuck out, that she left me. And that, like, devastated me for a time, well, a short period of time.
Starting point is 01:54:26 Yeah, but it's not really her you're missing. It's more just the concept of the rejection. And that was the fucked up part is right after I moved to California. So it's like, she didn't just represent like a girl I was fucking with. She also represented, like, oh, this is like a social network. that I kind of fell into that made everything easier, you know? Oh, so she was out here when you moved. Yeah, she had been out here for a few years and had her, like, built-in group of friends and
Starting point is 01:54:49 stuff. Meanwhile, I'm a BMX dude. I move out of her. I've got, like, four friends. Yeah. And then there's other BMX dudes were hanging out with the shit, but, like, she was tapped in with in, like, a cooler world. Hey, Adam's ex-girlfriend, how many friends you got now compared to him, huh? Man. Bad move, shorthy, bad move. Great move. Yeah. No, you're right. You're right. She probably got no homies. She's homiless out here. Yeah. Great move. be fucking pussy.
Starting point is 01:55:11 She's a real estate tycoon. Can I call her that? Sure. How you guys feel about FBG butting in his ass beat? I thought that he said it was some type of he's a liar.
Starting point is 01:55:22 We've got pretty good information. This is real shit. He got into a situation. No, yeah, no, I've seen it. Shouts of butter, man. Is it allergic? I just can't believe they finally caught up with him.
Starting point is 01:55:35 I don't understand why he took a picture with this dude. This guy was like chees and super. Super hard. Yeah, he looked like he about a bust some move, huh? Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:55:44 I mean, it happens, though. He probably caught a fade. They got the best of him. And you know what? It don't seem like they jumped him. It doesn't look like jump work. I heard a few different renditions of what happened, but it's been like four days
Starting point is 01:55:57 in the video hasn't been released, but there's a bunch of different people telling me that they saw the video. So I'm assuming we're probably going to see the video pretty soon. Okay, so do tell. What happened in the video? I didn't see it.
Starting point is 01:56:07 I was just like heard people talking about it. All right, so what's the fucking fake narrative that's going around. His narrative is saying that he has some kind of disease or chlamydia or the eye or some shit. I don't know. There is eye syphilis going around. He probably ate some badass.
Starting point is 01:56:20 But that's what he wants you to believe that he's just freaky butt in and not hot buddy who got whipped on. There is actually posters all throughout like central Los Angeles that are warning people about eye syphilis. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Yeah. Whoa. But I want to say for, you know what if fools in chicago or fighting instead of shooting like i think that's the right direction that's why i'm like they didn't kill him so it's a bit that's what i'm like that had to be one of his homies yeah it was friendly fire i think it's not like a bd called him lacking now yeah yeah that's i'm like it's cool they caught a fade step in the right direction that's good no definitely bro they they briefly got me i saw a video and it said that it was chiefing yeah and it wasn't
Starting point is 01:57:05 And I was just like for a second, I was like, oh, fuck. Like a third incident? Two in one week is insane. You know that wasn't Frosty who was beating him? Yeah. That's somebody else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first one that we saw was not Frosty.
Starting point is 01:57:16 That's what we get for acting on the first narrative. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always get fucked like that. I'm like, damn. Well, I just heard, like, the vocal tone of the on B team kind of sounded. Oh, baited. You sound like, yeah, yeah. So that's what kind of sound.
Starting point is 01:57:30 Is his lingo? I was like, okay. Oh, wait. Footage surges of altercation with Mikey. and FYB Duke that led to getting his eyes blacked. Oh shit. I thought that was butter at first. I don't know
Starting point is 01:57:43 how violent this is going to be. Oh, you can't see shit. That's not violent. How is this even footage? This is a boomerang. This is like a boomerang of a fucking CCTV camera. That looks like a hood version of like the Mike Valley you're beating up the hockey players or whatever.
Starting point is 01:58:05 Yeah. that right there like it's crazy when you think about skate videos and shit like how how easily impressed we were we thought that was amazing you beat up like a bunch of guys one time in your life
Starting point is 01:58:16 we thought you're the hardest dude he like bullied some dude way smaller than bro Terry Kennedy yeah literally did a rail threw up Crip you couldn't tell me shit I thought he was the most gangster dude to ever live because I had never seen
Starting point is 01:58:30 a BMX or a skater throw up a gang sign before and he pulled out his check too. I didn't even know how much it was. I don't even think you could tell that right there. I was like, whoa. That's fucking insane. You threw up a gang sign and he showed his check. This thing it was a fucking staple.
Starting point is 01:58:47 He was a fucking staple for sure. I don't even think he was like a fucking hard skateboard either. He was just like the only bike. He wasn't like elite like some people, but you know. He never made it to Tony Hawk, did he? Nah, but that era was kind of like over by the time he popped off.
Starting point is 01:59:03 No, they had a new Tony Hawk. the one with the skateboard. But they already had Stevie Williams and shit. They're like, we don't know. And then eventually that led to the trick. They only want to let one black dude in. But then there was like Antoine Dixon and shit, you feel me? That's like where that...
Starting point is 01:59:16 They never let him all the way in either. He's the most entertaining. He was way too crazy. He's the best skater of all time. Oh, yeah, yeah. Personality-wise? Yeah, like, he's my favorite. My interview with him is, I should just sit down and re-watch the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:59:30 Lush, get a doctor's script for De Soxon. Look it up live. Thank you, my boy. Should we actually look at it? It was probably going to be for AIDS or something. It was $2. It was probably for losing weight for, like, getting off drugs. There you go for the $2.00 read.
Starting point is 01:59:43 I think Adam just wanted you to know you need to do it. I don't even know what it is. Isn't it methamphetamine? It's a treat attention deficit hyperactivity. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's given legitimate money. Yeah. Global warming sent $10 and said, Adam,
Starting point is 01:59:57 Adam made the show late on purpose to wait on brick because the chat, press him about allowing Brick to be late every single episode, and he was scared to check brick. I don't feel like you're late every episode. And also, the show was late because they were laid, which is... They? I mean... You were, like, right on the cuff side.
Starting point is 02:00:13 Yeah, yeah. You were there, like, exactly all the time. We're white people late. I was 15 minutes early. I thought I would fucking get a fucking donut. I'm still late. I feel like I heard your voice, like, two minutes away from... No.
Starting point is 02:00:27 No? No? Like, 345. 35. 35? 345. He was like... Yeah, he's like 3.42.
Starting point is 02:00:34 I was like 338. I came in and I made oatmeal. That's why. I did see that. Adam, this is Reap Cash. My song RIPP patch should be on Adam's No Jumper playlist by now. Well, they should throw that on the list and they could play that during the music live stream. It's coming up right after this.
Starting point is 02:00:51 He's definitely going to be there. I really want to stick around, but I got fucking three interviews tomorrow. I got to get ready for it. Wait, is that him? Yeah. Yeah, that's Reap Cash. That's smoking on the ecstasy? They're no jumper music stream goat.
Starting point is 02:01:04 He's a go. That's for sure. Bone doing work. Shout out Lush. This is one of the biggest from Milwaukee's trap. I knew Lush before any of y'all. No diss. Just saying Lush is a legend. Legit.
Starting point is 02:01:13 If you ever in the Milly, I got you. Wow. Come on, full. A little bit of glazing. You're in the Milly. What's the Milly? Milwaukee, food, Newtown. I thought it was going to kill Milwaukee,
Starting point is 02:01:23 but I guess if you're white, it's the Milly. Hey. You don't know, bro. If you ever in the Millie? He's white. The Milly. Lush. We see the Duky on your head because it's so far up Adam's butt.
Starting point is 02:01:33 get out the middle of the Bukaki between Adam and Bray. How do you feel when you see people accusing you of glazing a little too much or like agreeing with me too much or whatever? Oh, do you want to remove me from my safe place? My house is warm. No, check this out, fool. You know what?
Starting point is 02:01:51 You just said you love sucking. I don't be glazing, motherfucker. You know what I am? I'm a good conversation of this. It's called a feedback sandwich when I give you. A feedback sandwich. I'm going to say something nice I'm going to say something mean
Starting point is 02:02:05 and then I'm say something nice but you'm not going to absorb the meanness until later and then I'm not saying this about you in particular but this is my style of endearing people to get them comfortable during a podcast Okay but I would say Do I glaze a lot?
Starting point is 02:02:22 I think the fans want to I mean you but you compliment like a lot of shit It's not just me and him It's like anything. If we, if we, if I mentioned hell rel, you're going to just like list off a bunch of hell rel. And we know, but I'm saying, like, you know, you're going to list off a whole roll call a hell row call.
Starting point is 02:02:41 I do think, I do think, explosive. All right. Let me tell you. I haven't mean you to say this for a while, not about you, but as a podcaster, it kind of shows, like, how good you are at podcasting. If, if someone can mention the name of someone that you know, have met, you know, have met, have spent time around or look up to and you don't immediately use that as an opportunity
Starting point is 02:03:08 to kind of like talk about your even briefly like your war stories and I'll give it to Joe Budden I do it all the time. But Joe Budden I see where the other person will mention someone and I know that like Joe did a song with him Joe went on tour with him Joe did videos with him Joe beef with him and he doesn't immediately take the opportunity
Starting point is 02:03:28 to acknowledge like somebody could mention push a T. Wait, he didn't be with push a T. Sorry. Who's a good example? The game. Great, great point. You could totally start talking about the game and Joe Button is not going to be like, yeah, number one, me and Joe, or me and the game went to war, which on the other side
Starting point is 02:03:45 of that, there is a podcaster on the other side who this was like his number one primary tick. You could never mention someone who they had ever even seen in the club without that person just being like, yeah,
Starting point is 02:04:01 like me and him, we boys, we go back, blah, blah, blah. It's like, advancing as a podcaster is, like, getting past having to sort of, like, go over the fact that you know somebody, which I'll even criticize Vlad for this. If you mention someone to Vlad and Vlad has interviewed them before, he's going to say, yeah, I interviewed them before. And it's like, every time it kind of like gets to me because I'm like, Vlad, you're a little too good to be mentioning it every time somebody mentioned somebody that you did interview with. Now, that being said, the fans love conflict, arguments. You know, it still has to like, you know, ultimately they want you, I think, to be on good terms. But if it seems a little too glazed out, yeah, they might take issue with that. It's just, and I get it.
Starting point is 02:04:42 Look, at the end of the day, people don't perceive how they don't perceive. And ultimately, I'm not going to alter my personality as a human being to the point where I have to not be passionate about things that I think are, cool. Like I know it's not cool to get excited about stuff. I know it's not cool and people look at it like, oh, you're emasculating yourself to give someone else respect. I'm secure with who the fuck I am, they're bad and ugly. And I acknowledge people that I think are dope because I like dope shit. And that's why I do this. I think, okay. So yeah, Adam's Walls. Here's the thing. It's a cultural me. Somebody like me. I do things and I clearly think the things that I do are good and great and healthy and positive or whatever.
Starting point is 02:05:27 But there's a lot of people in the audience who probably think that plenty of the shit that I do is gay as fuck. And it's like, I think those people want to be spoken for it to a certain extent. If they start to feel like I'm able to just say whatever the fuck I want and nobody's ever going to challenge it or question or whatever, which I'm not saying you're that far gone. But I do think that like the average podcast listener wants to see people held to the fire. I'll give you a great example.
Starting point is 02:05:51 I was really looking forward to Destiny and Sam Harris doing. podcast together for years. They finally did a podcast together. Kind of a letdown. They agree on everything. Politics, like life philosophy in general, the Middle East, whatever the fuck it is, they kind of like are on the same page about everything.
Starting point is 02:06:08 So it was only tiny little details that they had to zero in on. And that to me made it like, damn, I really look forward to this podcast, but it wasn't really as interesting as I thought that it might be. But we disagree constantly. Like you literally were talking about how Drake won for months straight. And like, you know what I mean? I thought he was going to win.
Starting point is 02:06:26 He knew he lost. Well, look, I'm just saying there's like, we both thought he was going to win. I thought he was going to win. I think a lot of people thought he was going to win. No, but I'm just saying we've had a lot of debates on this pod before. And at a certain point, do you want to just be constantly arguing with your co-hosts? I don't want to constantly be arguing, but I would say that like an argument,
Starting point is 02:06:45 typically when you talk about good content, an argument is kind of going to be better. Like, we should be attempting to identify things that we disagree on and emphasize them. Yeah, it has to be like a debatable topic. Yeah. Which is not always easy. Because honestly, if we were to look through all of our topics for today, I hate my sense. Most of them are not really like argument worthy, you know?
Starting point is 02:07:05 And I'm not suggesting that anybody should like take on an antagonistic personality just to make better content. But, you know, sometimes I do think that they want that a little bit. Damn, so I got to like argue with you guys more. I feel like this is like a common comment from the chat. No, I think the Lush Glazy is. thing is become a meme that's taken on a life of its own.
Starting point is 02:07:28 Every meme is rooted at least in a little truth, right? Because I genuinely believe that, like, that's not what time it is with me. To the point where, look, when you had Pokemon Gohomie on, I'm able to chop it up with Pokemon Gohomie
Starting point is 02:07:43 and really get inside his world and have a seamless conversation. I don't know. And that's definitely better than a person who would just kind of like check out, look at their phone, just be like, Pokemon Go, How the fuck is that? Yeah, who's this fucking dork? On a podcast, you should be trying to go in the direction of, like, interest.
Starting point is 02:07:59 You're like a hype man anyway, though. No, not like that. That's just like his character. He's like the wing man for the only. Like, oh, yeah, that's his character. So, like, it just pours over into the podcast. So it's not really glazing because it's just less. Like, if you say something about, like, if Adam says something,
Starting point is 02:08:16 he's going to give you, like, more accolades on it. Like, it makes you feel better about what you're doing. That's just your character. To be fair, I could be asked at something. I've kind of been on the other. side of this because like, you know, at least, especially towards the end of the Custer era, there was like, you know, people saw it. It was like a lot of pause with like, you know, certain hosts who would be kind of like questioning me on certain topics that were like
Starting point is 02:08:39 not even close to like controversial. It's wanted to argue. Yeah, which is not like that in and of itself, like arguing is good. But it's like when it gets to the point where you feel like you can't make a common sense statement about reality without like people like going out of their way to basically create content out of sort of intentionally misunderstanding you then you've kind of like passed
Starting point is 02:09:04 anything good about you know arguing on a podcast or whatever but I was just interested to hear your thoughts on I think you should aim to find topics to disagree with me on it will not take long at all fuck you Adam
Starting point is 02:09:19 you want to know the truth if I come in with a shirt you think it's kind of gay, just tell me. Well, no. Not this one, Nodreber.com. What, to me, the funnier narrative, and I think a lot of
Starting point is 02:09:32 people, particularly in the battle rap world for some reason, subscribe to this, like the fan base, they're like, you got humiliated by this fool, he marked you out and you were talking all this shit, and then you came and sucked your dick back to get your job, da-da-da.
Starting point is 02:09:48 That's the battle-rap framing, for sure, yeah. Which is so, and also a lot of, of like the no jumper or you know like no jumper adjacent inspired podcasts fans tend to believe but that is very far from reality did i put did i wave the white flag put down my weapon and realize that i've been acting like a jackass and shut the fucking mouth i should have shut from the beginning yes i did that you feel me they just want some dick to suck too like you didn't tell us you were gonna go suck the dick you get back on here you should have been rubbing his balls we should all we should all went to go suck his dick you went by his throat you
Starting point is 02:10:22 You know what? That's on me too because... Bro, I remember Remo, while I was on my honeymoon, I remember Remo, like, we were plotting, like, kind of like nonstop on what we were going to do content-wise and everything for, you know, just to keep the brand going and everything, like what we were going to do,
Starting point is 02:10:38 who was going to be on the No-Jumbers show, etc. And I remember Remo saying, like, honestly, bro, like, you should at least think about, like, squash and shit with Lush because that would be, like, a host that if you get him to come back, it could kind of like make a bunch of the fans, feel a certain way of like, oh, okay, like, this is what I liked about it, even though obviously,
Starting point is 02:10:57 like, maybe there was other hosts that they also would have wanted on there or whatever. And I remember just having too much pride and just being like, nah. And then, like, all the bad stuff I said probably didn't help after that. A lot of that happened, like, after Remo made that suggestion. And then I was like, oh, I'm so glad I didn't, you know. But honestly, the cipher, too. And, okay, if I could replay that era of my life, March 2023, you know what I think I might have done? I might have like gone on the road.
Starting point is 02:11:25 Just straight up like let's hit the road for like a month, two months, and let's just get the best content we can. Because I feel like when you actually go out and you're like with the people, it's kind of like easier to make great content. Like asking them to pay attention to a bunch of dudes sitting in a room talking about shit. Tough ask. Going to Kensington and filming people shooting up tranquilizer, that's not that hard to convince people to do.
Starting point is 02:11:49 You're like, let's try this. Yeah. I don't know. I do think there's some value to that. I think I should have really taken myself outside of my comfort zone and completely revamped what the channel was for a period of time. Instead of being like, let's keep the news going, let's keep the news. I should have just said, fuck it, let's do something insane. But also I had so much overhead in the sense of like, well, I have all these employees
Starting point is 02:12:15 in the office. Granted, did get rid of some of them. but it was kind of like I feel like I have to keep this podcast thing going whereas it might have been a better decision obviously it would have been shitty to fire a bunch of people unnecessarily but to just be like
Starting point is 02:12:28 let's just completely change this shit up let's just hit the road and like really bro we would have killed each other make the best content I'm not really talking about you because you were already out at that time yeah but oh I thought you were talking about when it was still all of us like with ADT rel like all right hell no I ain't going anywhere yeah yeah yeah you're saying after
Starting point is 02:12:46 the mass Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that would have been cool, but, like, you wound up landing on your feet somehow, some way. How do you feel about Custer Immunity World having to cancel their entire U.S. tour? Well, it's definitely not, like, look. Not a great look. I have to fart. I mean, like, I'm assuming.
Starting point is 02:13:06 I'm kind of picturing what it might smell like. I'm assuming, like, they're going to say they're probably because they got. They blamed it on a pun. I mean, like, agreed to take the blame for it in the clip that I saw. instead of like addressing it serious at all or like admitting that they didn't really sell tickets like the way they would have needed to to go on tour they basically were like oh pun
Starting point is 02:13:24 fucked it up it was pun and pun pun you could tell like didn't really feel like he was responsible but felt like he kind of had to take it. But that is, that's a way better narrative to be like my manager my manager did a shitty job booking it that's an easier narrative than nobody bought any tickets. That's super
Starting point is 02:13:39 it's an L for show. I mean that's another it's an L. That's saying that in so many words it's an L. They didn't promote it the right way he did a shitty job at booking like all of that sounds like I mean one person was saying in the reddit and I don't necessarily know if I believe him but it seemed kind of serious but they were saying that they work at the venue in Chicago I think and they said that they sold 12 tickets which that doesn't really surprise me that honestly kind of sounds like accurate like that's kind of what I would have expected that's what I was going to
Starting point is 02:14:09 say that's such an ambitious undertaking trying to like being a national touring podcast act because That'd be hard for us to pull off. I think their first show was supposed to be... Oh, in Chicago for sure. But that's what you would do. If you actually want to do a live show in a city, you know what you need to do? You need to interview people from that city. You know.
Starting point is 02:14:27 Interview people from that city. Maybe go to that city and do shit for free. Do some pop-up shit. Do a meet-and-grie. Do whatever. Like, go there, do some vlogs or some artists or whatever. And, like, lay the groundwork. Like, Chicago would be an easy market for us right now.
Starting point is 02:14:39 Atlanta would be an easy market because we've done so much with so many different people. I already know I'm living in those markets. I went to Austin, Texas. I could not fucking walk around downtown because so many people wanted to talk to me. That's when I was like, oh, Austin would be a smart place for us to go. Because I already know from walking around here that there's no way we're not selling four or five hundred tickets in Austin because I just walked down the street and had fucking 20 people say what up to me. But a lot of entertainers suffer from two pop.
Starting point is 02:15:06 Two pop. Where they think that they two pop it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you like fucking book some shows and you go rock out with like, 30 people in the crowd and it kind of like humbles you. And that's happened to me. It happened. It happened.
Starting point is 02:15:21 I think that that was their attitude because somebody was sending me like pictures of some of the venues they booked and they were fucking small-ass venues. But the reality is it's like, all right, you sell 12 tickets. That's like $200. If you're selling $20 tickets, $240 bucks, maybe you're selling $30 tickets, $360, whatever. That's one flight, you know? The amount of money you're going to spend to go to all these fucking cities, if you have to fly out
Starting point is 02:15:47 four hosts plus the manager if that's five hotels they're not going to be flying in between every single you can't drive between no because it's super spread out
Starting point is 02:15:58 like on the original flyer it's like it was like weekends you know you go and you do three dates or whatever but you probably got to fly between a lot of those fucking that shit is gonna be so expensive spending $400 on a flight
Starting point is 02:16:10 for five people that's 2K right there then if you don't really like move tickets you're gonna have to pay for the venue. You're going to be in the hole with the venue. It's not a market that's like demanding. It's not like you're rapping or doing something like you're doing a live show of your podcast. So it's not even a market to where it's like
Starting point is 02:16:27 oh, everybody wants to go see this type of thing. Yeah, because I see people to watch on YouTube. But if Danny Mullin shows up in a city and he like announces, hey guys, come meet me here. We're going to do a little flash mob fucking drinking in this field outside of rural Idaho. He'll get 50 people to come through and turn up with that. free. That's like not even... Because you've got to realize, too, that especially when you go to these smaller cities and
Starting point is 02:16:50 shit, like, 30 bucks for a ticket is a big deal. That's what it is. It's not like out here where, like, everybody seems to have expandable income for no reason. That's why I said $2.50 for Boussey is like $500K in New Orleans or in, sorry, Louisiana. You know what I mean? Because literally the cost of living, you have to account for all... He's in Atlanta. Okay, outside of Georgia.
Starting point is 02:17:09 You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm just saying, like, no, Georgia is starting to hit, like, L.A. Georgia's going up. But it's still, you get a lot more. Somebody said, Adam, you keep mentioning Austin, are you thinking about moving to Texas? That was probably one of the last places I would ever move.
Starting point is 02:17:23 Yeah. I've lived in Texas, and I do like it. It's a great place. But moving there, like, I mean, the comedy scene very much lives there. That's like the, yeah. And a lot of touring artists go there. And besides that. Because it's only two things that live in Texas.
Starting point is 02:17:37 And that's dears and clears. And I don't see no goddamn antlers on you, boy. Don't play My brother live in Austin So I spent a lot of time out there actually Like, first he lived in Houston Yeah And like Austin is essentially
Starting point is 02:17:58 A city in California Surrounded by Texas Yeah, that is pretty much how it feels Yeah, yeah You said Austin's the city what? He's like a California city Surrounded by Texas Yeah
Starting point is 02:18:07 Yeah, like it's like one of my favorite spots to go You drive 15 minutes outside of Austin, you go to the gas station, and it's the most redneck motherfuckers you've ever seen in your life running that shit. But when you're in Austin, it's like non-binary Uri clones. When we were at South by Southwest, we booked the Airbnb. I told you guys,
Starting point is 02:18:26 somebody was inside of my Airbnb when I got there. It's three in the morning. We had slept or nothing. We got there like 10, so we didn't go to the Airbnb. We were like, we'd go to like the venues and shit. They didn't go to sleep. So everything sold out. You know this is Austin. So the only thing we could get is like 20, 30 minutes out. I felt like we pulled into a sundown town.
Starting point is 02:18:48 I'm like, I don't think that this was the right idea. I drove all the way to Dallas that night. I didn't even go inside that room. Really? Nah. Yeah. No, basically. H-I.
Starting point is 02:19:00 Yeah, shit, I'm not about to be the one of the chance of it either. It could be the police on freaky time. We got perks, we got leave. We got fucking weed. You know what I mean? He's not wrong either because literally, where I went to rehab when I went four years ago was in a town called Maynard, Texas, which is like, I don't know, like 30 miles outside Austin.
Starting point is 02:19:20 The next door neighbors to where the rehab was, Confederate flag. Front yard. Like flying hot. Even in Austin, you'll see people driving around with Confederate flags, and it stands out so much because it's such a fucking liberal city. They don't tend to fuck with that in Austin. But, yeah. I've seen that in Denver.
Starting point is 02:19:38 It's like, you know. But the thing is, if you were to have a conversation with a lot of those people, with it. 90% of them. Like the flag doesn't mean that they're racing. 90% of them are not going to say, yeah, I hate blacks. Sorry to God. It's about tradition. I grew up in New Hampshire and like,
Starting point is 02:19:52 when I was in high school, I never saw any of that. But when I graduated, I started to see people I went to school with who all of a sudden had Confederate flags, stickers on their cars and shit. And I'm like, you live 45 minutes outside of Boston. What the fuck is wrong? There's no excuse. That's what are you supposed to have
Starting point is 02:20:07 the 13 colonies flag? Yeah, but I see. They got that grown white man. and taught by from their grandparents and their father, like, this is what we do. They love that down south ethos, you know? And they don't even mean it in a particularly racist way, but it is also kind of saying like, oh, black people have
Starting point is 02:20:25 thoughts and feelings on things. I don't give a fuck, we rocking this shit. The argument that it's not racist could be, by the way, I think that our argument's wrong. I know it's wrong. But it could be applicable if you're from the south. Oh, yeah, down south? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:41 What about Andre 3? thousand going on stage of the BET Awards wearing a fucking jumpsuit with that shit. Like, I mean, if you're from down south, I can't really like hate on it the same way because, yeah, that's where you come from. He wanted you to remember that.
Starting point is 02:20:52 Exactly. Black people don't believe. There's a lot of people from down south who've been photographed rocking that shit. No one talked about the fucking Drakeo the Ruther Long Live the Truth. You feel me in the fucking Big Bang Uchi's video. He had his, the hood of his jacket
Starting point is 02:21:06 had like a Confederate flag on it. Was it the Kanye merch? I don't know what it was. Because Kanye was going crazy with that shit for all. Wow, before white lives matter. But I mean, like, there is probably lineage of the people, because there was a lot of black people that were fighting with the Confederates at the time. It could have lost their lives.
Starting point is 02:21:23 You know what I mean? They could have had a great-grandparent that lost their lives. I think that's why Drake could have that. No. I'm just saying in the South, maybe. I don't know. But, like, we see that. It means nigger that don't like niggas.
Starting point is 02:21:35 Yeah. Period. It ain't nothing else. Like, and I would notice that, like I told you when I lived in PA, and, like, I said, the East Coast and I would see Confederate flags and be like, yo, like, you're repping the losing squad, homie. They're not only the ops, but they've lost the war. But it's not score, but there's all these white dudes banging swastikas. They know they lost. Yeah. They're still banging it. But that's like a, it's like a slightly different ideology. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:21:59 It's more of an, it's a clear cut ideology as opposed to the Confederate flag where everybody's kind of like, what does that mean? We don't really know. Because it's a lot longer time ago, too. This is like recent history in comparison. And they like shifted their focus off. of the original target onto black people for some reason. Yeah, that is true as well. But like a white dude in prison is going to get Hitler tattoos and Nazi tattoos and guarantee if you ask them, they don't know shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:23 It's just they know it's some white shit. Yeah, for sure. The same way a black dude is going to wear some like African-inspired art on their shirt or whatever, pretty good chance that they don't know what the fuck that shit mean. At all. But they know it represents being black. Yeah, where we go.
Starting point is 02:22:37 It's just all that white shit is representing like hate as well. what they wear. Like, it's a dashiki, right? Yeah. That's true. Okay. Can I ask you, did you go see Spider-Loke walk out on American Chola? I did.
Starting point is 02:22:50 Oh, my God. You want to say it? Yes. I mean, you're going to, like, miss some context because you're not seeing the whole thing. But as somebody who's, you know, a fan to whatever extent of both of these guys, this was a pretty crazy. I mean, really, like, American Cholo was just having, like, a lot. lot of fun and you kind of got the vibe that uh that spider loke was just not appreciates of it basketball tennis soccer football it's all based about what can you do with your
Starting point is 02:23:24 body creatively no we are the creators of all you're not created you're playing you're great at sports but you're not answering the question you're talking about how you're a super human what the industry can not once the industry cannot exist what the industry cannot exist without your physical presence. I got it. I got it. Imagine. Imagine the NBA with no blacks. Imagine the NBA with no blacks. Let me know when you're ready.
Starting point is 02:23:49 No audience. No tickets. I will. Shut up. Honestly, they're talking over each other so bad that it's fucking insane. And if you watch more of this, like, I only seen this like seven-minute clip and, you know, he walks out at some point. But the level of them talking over each other is fucking nuts in this clip.
Starting point is 02:24:08 Imagine it. What do you? Shut up. You keep asking. asking me to let me know where you're around. I'm ready. Go, go, go, go, go. I'm tired.
Starting point is 02:24:14 Okay, they're both frustrated, but Gil is like happy, frustrated, and Spider-Loke is like angry, frustrated. If you'll be quiet, I'm gonna text. You can't be quiet. No, you don't. You can be gracious. Okay, stop. Imagine, imagine, I said stop,
Starting point is 02:24:28 but I said, stop, but you never allowed me to do it. More respectful. You never allowed me to do what you just used to do with me. You haven't ever. You haven't allowed me to complete a thought since I've been here. Imagine. You haven't allowed me to complete a thought
Starting point is 02:24:39 to stop being here. We have, bro. We have not. Watch when you watch it back. Watch when you watch it back. You've yet to allow me to complete a thought. That's why we got to bring it back to Clichy 93 TV. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:52 This is his whole. Hey. Spot a note. Imagine NFL saying this is a white sport. Your guess. Watching it stop existing. Now imagine every Mexican. They tried that.
Starting point is 02:25:07 Wait, wait. Imagine every Mexican, an artist say, This is a black rap. This is a black this. Don't support us. What's going to happen? Who goes to the majority of these fucking places? That's not the point.
Starting point is 02:25:17 No. What you mean? That ain't the point, huh? Can I answer. You can't say. Every time you get loud and animated doesn't mean, I'm not making sense. No, you sit there and said that it doesn't. Imagine if every Mexican did not go to the concerts.
Starting point is 02:25:30 What would happen? We'll stop to exist. We are in. We are part of it, bro. We are homies. I'm glad all you to see how much he's bullying my perspective. I'm a little guy, bro. I don't get a chance to speak.
Starting point is 02:25:42 I don't get a chance to respond, react, or any of that. There's theatrics. I didn't realize we were in a comedy show, too. Watch this walk out. I thought he's coming here to politics. We are. Dick son. Bro.
Starting point is 02:25:52 Dick? So you call the Dick. Okay. He uses the Mexican dick. That's a very, like, popular Mexican slang tournament. Yeah, go on, Dick. You love your best friend that. It's a friendly dick.
Starting point is 02:26:03 Yes. It's not like you're a straight-up dickhead. It's just like, you're kind of being a dick. He ain't calling a cock. It's not it. Yeah, exactly. But that basically sets him up to walk out there. Say that in a loving way.
Starting point is 02:26:16 When I say dick, to all you. Touch me when you talk about dicks. Please, bro. I'm a real one, homie. I'm a man. I got grown sons, but I don't know what's going on. I hope it's too much tequila. What, bro?
Starting point is 02:26:26 We lose, hey, I'm glad to have been here. Black Box Productions, Clici, T3, Shots, Mika Cholo. We are out of here, man. No, we still going. No, we still going. What's up? Oh, you said what? So we're still going.
Starting point is 02:26:37 We're good after this. Yeah, so what else? What else you had in mind? I think after this, we'll just wrap it up and see what's up. That's like, sexy. Yeah, we definitely need to get this going, man, again. I love the healthy conversation and the topics, the hot topics again. I don't know if he wanted to answer as far as what he felt like,
Starting point is 02:26:57 what's needed to be done to bring the communities together. But, you know, that's what I'm about our answer. Did you ask you? Yeah, for sure. Okay, what did you feel? That's part. I mean, that's basically right there. My number one thing, if somebody's going to walk out on the podcast and you're controlling the boards, how dare you not show them walking out?
Starting point is 02:27:18 The whole point is to show Spider-Loke getting up out of his chair and awkwardly walking out of it. That's the whole point of a walkout. And they try to cover up for it like you might not notice by immediately switching the camera. They don't show Spider-Logue after that. But you can also tell the Spider-Logue is sitting on the other side of the camera because American Cholo keeps referring to him afterwards. So it's obvious that he's in the room. He didn't want to leave for real. But like, that's not his homie.
Starting point is 02:27:43 That's SpotiFace. He's just sitting there. And he tries to keep the conversation going as if the most awkward thing possible on a podcast didn't just happen. You know what? This will start a race war in L.A. This will start. A poetic flaco video dropping soon. Just kidding.
Starting point is 02:27:59 Poetic flaco joke. Not a real thing. They definitely, like, he overabused that. I know he heard a South Side or Mexican. used the term dick and like referring to a friend or somebody close to him before. I would assume he would if he has any Mexican help. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:16 Like, I'm on, Dick. I was on a sick one, Digg. Yeah, that's like, there's no, but I guess the the combination of him being called Dick while he, like, touched him, I guess through, because he said, don't touch me while you say Dick. That's what you. Nah, it was just the rest of the
Starting point is 02:28:32 extras. I think they got to the bottom of that probably. I got to be honest, dude. I feel like despite the unprofessionalism of leaving a podcast early he did I feel like
Starting point is 02:28:44 Spider-Logue did it in a very professional way He had a point though Yeah Don't forget that he had a point He did have a point I'm not I hate to go against the grade
Starting point is 02:28:54 Or whatever y'all It's thinking But he has a point If we I don't know what the topic was But if we stopped A lot of stuff That shit wouldn't exist
Starting point is 02:29:05 this people would it wouldn't hit the same so i'm assuming i think it's a pretty safe assumption that the conversation stemmed from hip hop being black culture and anybody who's for sure right it sounds like an extension of the like can m&m be the best rapper of all time conversation he can be he can be but from my perspective i mean okay we have different ways to be great the reason why it's like oh could you be the best football player if you were black yeah obviously it doesn't matter if and white people invented it because the way we judge football players is like who scores the most points. But we're talking about who you consider the greatest. I mean, if you want to just judge rap by like who sold the most albums, I mean, is Eminem the greatest?
Starting point is 02:29:45 I mean, probably not, right? He's like close to the greatest. Yeah. But he's probably not the best selling artist of all time. He made it. When people say Eminem's the best rapper all the time, they're not saying he sold the most. They're saying that lyrically he's the best. And although I disagree with that statement, I don't feel like that's an egregious statement to make.
Starting point is 02:30:03 You can make a very strong kick. Yeah, because Eminem actually beat the odds. It's going to be somebody who's, it's white men in the NFL, in the NBA, that are equally athletic as a black man. It's going to happen. It's not going to happen as much with these certain areas. But it's like, what do you think? How many black men are fucking out accounting or out fucking being a better attorney and all? You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:30:33 Johnny Cochran. Yes. It's going to happen, but it's not going to happen that much. You get what I'm saying? Let me ask you a question, Brick. Do you feel like... Can I just point out that? I'm reading the comments on this,
Starting point is 02:30:43 and it seems like the consensus is that Gil was overwhooping a little bit. I mean, in that... He was interrupted and he wouldn't really let him talk, and he was laughing a lot, and it felt like he was, like, laughing too lessened the tension, but then the actual effect was that Spider-Loke kind of felt offended and, like, he was making a mockery of that. Look, I love Gil.
Starting point is 02:31:00 One of my favorite podcasters, dude, in that clip, he definitely looked like he was, you feel me, the aggressor, and he wasn't letting bro get his point off, you know what I mean? I'm closer with America control than I am. He was like, what if we stopped buying tickets and all that shit, like, well, I think that motherfuckers will see that they have to do
Starting point is 02:31:22 more marketing in the hood to get people in the hood to buy tickets, and don't think that black people, y'all just more organized. We try to go the day of and the show sold out and usually the young white kids and Hispanics had already... Hispanics and whites do go to show a significant more. Well, that's like that whole A. Z. Chike conversation
Starting point is 02:31:40 that's been happening because Aze Chike posted a video, this is somehow related to this. He posted a video, him performing, and like the whole crowd is Mexican and white and shit, which is not... I think it was in the O.C. If I had...
Starting point is 02:31:52 Oh, I can't imagine why. Yeah. The O.C. But then, like, somebody dunks on him on Twitter and basically tries to clown him by saying, like, oh, I wouldn't even want to be a rapper if my whole fan base was going to be Mexican and white.
Starting point is 02:32:02 Well, guess what? You don't really want to be a rapper then because 95% of rappers, including the most pro-black rappers you could think of, the majority of the dates that they play, they're playing to Mexican and white kids. Especially in the Southwestern United States. Especially in the OC.
Starting point is 02:32:18 Especially, yeah. Unless Drex the Joint is there. Even just Southern California in general. Who's actually Mexican as well. But you know what? Bun B. I think last year made a statement that his shows are predominantly.
Starting point is 02:32:32 He's not only Mexican. Yeah. And his biggest fan base is Mexican and more Latinos support him than any other race. That was the thing that annoyed me about seeing that chick say that in the first place because it's like, bitch, have you ever left the crib before? Like, this is how every live event is damn near. Come on. 1,000 percent.
Starting point is 02:32:47 Maybe not Freaknik. Even Freaknik probably hell of gentified. I mean, is there? Yeah. But it's like, shit. Nah, not back then. But like now if they threw a freaknik for sure, it'd be like some hip-ass white boys. She's a blessed one.
Starting point is 02:33:01 and Adam 22 is in the building. It will be Nyes in the building at the Freaknik. That's how you know it's been a country. One time I watched, oh, I think it was a JPEG Mafia Pitchfork Fest set that I watched. And I was like, oh, that's the whitest audience I've ever seen at any show ever. Yeah, Fader Fort. And like Grom, you know, like, oh, like, damn, like y'all are like 30 and white and at a festival. Like, rolling loud, it's hell of white people, but it's a young-ass audience.
Starting point is 02:33:29 Yeah. But that's also we were talking about the Bay earlier. That's what I love about Oakland. You could do a show in Oakland. It's going to be predominantly black people no matter what. It would be a lot of Philippines. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's going to be like, bro, like, you're not doing a show in Oakland without black people.
Starting point is 02:33:45 But it's also, like, the bigger it gets, the more likely you are to have a big percentage of white people, you know? Because it's like, if you're going to be really popular translation, you're popular with, like, other races and not just your, like, little crowd. Those kids, the white kids from Lopiette and her. Rinda or drive out there, yeah. Also, we get to see nigger activities every day. We black. They want to see y'all act
Starting point is 02:34:09 like black niggas on stage. We don't give a fuck because it's like, all right, my boy going to go perform. Or, like, you know what I'm saying? It's like it's a rapper. Like, we don't act like rappers. We want to go see a rapper act like a rapper today. Yeah, I mean, like spill your fucking lean and ice on me. I'm in the front row.
Starting point is 02:34:26 You know what I mean? Like, no but there is a voyeuristic not to like use the word that academics has been using so much lately but like well referring to Brandon and Tommy oh yeah sometimes I just see like act learn a new word like I'll just hear him say like I've watched so much of a shit that I just like can tell when it's like oh you never said that word before there's a new one for you okay there is definitely an element of voyeurism to white people attending that makes it more exotic that probably makes them have more propensity to go to a
Starting point is 02:34:57 rap show. Yeah. You know who's got a good vocab? FBG Dutchy. Does he? He dropped romanticized and lexicon on me on that most recent interview. I'm a big word guy. I love Scrabble.
Starting point is 02:35:09 I like words. I was like, damn. Those might be like the first time a rapper hit me with those words on it. You know what? Like I noticed there's a definite thing with rappers that have had a lot of incarceration. I was about to say, how much time did he do? I don't know. That's a good question.
Starting point is 02:35:26 The amount of time, the more extensive the vocabulary. Yeah, this full Mazu'll be like, he'll be like, and she provided the vehicle. You feel me like? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, what? Had Jaybo be on the same shit? I'm like, oh, y'all fools.
Starting point is 02:35:46 Like really had to learn other words because he was locked up for so long. It's just crazy, though, when you're formative years. When you're a fucking gangster-ass rapper, you can just say so much more shit and get away with it. and make it sound cool, it sound cool rather than... Like, I remember when Kanye said, like, it's a lot harder for me to put a verse together than the average rapper because the average rapper can always just say, and I got a gun on me.
Starting point is 02:36:07 Which, if you really listen to rap, a lot of bars, basically amount to, like, and I got a gun on me. And the cat. Totally. If that wasn't tough enough. Totally unrelated to whatever the fuck you said in the bar before and after, but, like, and I got a gun on me. That just sounds crazy to a lot of people.
Starting point is 02:36:23 Blake called me. On days, I have shit, I have. Blake. Exactly. We sat on this podcast and talked about how hard that line is. What? You were poor and you had a gun. That's all you're saying. But it sounds hard as hard. And it's not even like he's not like something that only he could say.
Starting point is 02:36:40 Yeah. It's something almost anyone could say. After 50 cents on Get Richard Die Trying said, I'll kill you. And the literal percussive gun, the percussion sounds in the beat is a gun cocking back and firing. Like where can you really take
Starting point is 02:36:56 things past that point. Like, I ain't playing. You feel, me? Like, I'll kill you. Bang, bang. And the sound is a gun cocking and shooting. Like, no, that's real. This is hip-hop. You know what I mean? Like, 50.
Starting point is 02:37:10 This is 50. This is 50. But honestly, as far as that clip right there, let's keep it a sec. Gil, I would have really liked to have heard Spider-Lokes point right there. But I will also say this. Latino's contributions to hip-hop have been. very, very overlooked for a long time. No, they're not overlooked, but
Starting point is 02:37:30 it's like, if we hopped into any type of, like, uh, what is that shit called? Reggaeton. Brageton. Wow. We're a guest. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:44 What's his name? Catamino. No, no, no, no, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. The one from Miami, not pit bull, but the black dude, the Flo rider. Flowrider. Flo rider? Flore rider. Floorida. He's like in the reggaeton. No, he's not Dominican. I'm asking you. It's just like a pop. Yeah. He's just like a pop hitmaker, but he
Starting point is 02:38:04 dips in the reggaeton. He's a guest there. Wherever he's at, he's a guest there. Okay. You get what I'm saying? Like, okay, hip hop, but then Hispanics help create hip hop, I guess. I mean, from the 80s, right? They did, for sure. Tarik Nashid would like a word with you about that. I'd like to talk to him about that. He made a whole documentary about that being Cap. I don't know the history, so I can't, I'm just like, but it's still, it's still like something that we took over, and it's like, all right, cool.
Starting point is 02:38:31 You guys are here. It's cool, we fuck with you. We're not going to say, hey, you are a guest, stay in your spot. Yeah. But it's like, y'all is coming and fucking with the culture that we made. I like being a guess. Yeah, yeah, like we made it, boom, y'all here, we're not tripping. We're not going to say, hey, you're a guest.
Starting point is 02:38:46 We're not fucking with you. But I might have my own room at the crib at this point. I'm a guest, but I got my own room. I think the guess word is pretty harsh. I wouldn't call it a guest. But people are so used to... People are so used to saying that white people are guests and hip-hop. And, like, I even...
Starting point is 02:39:02 Vlad asked me that, I think, one time in one of our first interviews, like, do you consider yourself a guest in hip-hop? And I kind of, like, hesitated to agree. And his metaphor that I thought was very stellar was basically, like, if you go over to somebody's house and you're their guest, do you put your feet up on the couch? And I'm like, no. He's like, yeah, because you're a guest.
Starting point is 02:39:22 And I'm like, okay, that's fair. But you do put your feet up on the couch. Now I think that's probably pretty fair to say. Your shoes. Sox are off. Like, no more Birkin socks. Just dogs barking on the couch. And I mean, that would be a lot of Hispanic people's argument, too.
Starting point is 02:39:37 It's like, yeah, maybe y'all, maybe black people in general created hip-hop. But it's been 50 fucking years. And we, I've been into hip-hop since I was a kid. I grew up around hip-hop. Hip-hop was everything that I grew up around. I don't feel like a guess. A Hispanic person feels confident. saying that. I mean, they get more of a past than Mac Miller, Eminem, fucking Mac Lamar.
Starting point is 02:39:58 Like, I could keep going on and on. So it's like, like, why the fuck we give them hell like that? Like, they hear. If they make dope music, they make dope music. If they don't, nobody's going to listen to it. I feel like it's very useful for podcasters and content creators and people who've done serious prison time to spend a lot of oxygen discussing, you know, different categories of people based on race, but I feel like when you look at that fucking AZ Jike concert where you're surrounded by white and Mexican kids screaming his music at him and moshin or whatever
Starting point is 02:40:27 it's like in the real world, especially the young people, like they just don't really give a fuck. They're just like, they feel like one, enjoying this concert together. Right. And that's one thing I thought when I was watching this is like podcasts encourage people to focus on the
Starting point is 02:40:43 micro differences between each other so much. And we saw that during DW Flames tenure on this podcast where it's like every day we had to have at least a little bit of a politic about the different brands of Crippin. And it's just like when you actually get to like young people who are passionate about the art, that shit just does not feel as important. Well, look, agreed 1,000% glazing. Glazing minorities. Anybody that says that Puerto Ricans weren't a part of hip hop culture from its inception, because I know,
Starting point is 02:41:19 Dominicans, most of them didn't immigrate until like the late 80s, early 90s to New York City, but Puerto Ricans have been there for a long ass time, right? To the point, like you either didn't live in New York or don't know anything because Puerto Ricans
Starting point is 02:41:35 were there, especially with the other elements, graffiti, break dancing, from the motherfucking inception. With that being said, Brick, I really want your perspective on this for most of anybody's. Do you believe that Eminem had a white privilege in hip-hop culture or do you believe that he
Starting point is 02:41:51 is like had a harder time because he's white. No, he had white privilege. He came in with Dre and he was the only one coming like that at the time. It wasn't like a space where you could upload videos to Instagram and YouTube whenever you wanted to.
Starting point is 02:42:07 So it was like he was the chosen one. He was the white boy that broke the barriers and got to Dr. Dre and what they made was like, okay, I'm co-siding it. And he's white and he got a gun on me and he's white so it's like you I mean it was the first time we ever see a white boy really deliver like good rapes yeah like that could be a competition with
Starting point is 02:42:35 a black person songs like his shit boys weren't competing with fucking you know what I'm saying big daddy no no no no I think he had like privilege and anti-privilege like obviously there's a shitload of people that didn't want to take Eminem seriously. But then at the same time, obviously there was like a nation of kids who are eager to have him be their favorite rapper because they identified him with him so much. Yo, mom, let me get this MasterP CD. Geto dope. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:04 Let me get this Eminem CD that is literally about him killing you. Way worse. Way worse. His mother. Yeah, yeah. But they rather that. They were at a point in their life where they wanted to kill their mom too. So it's like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:17 That's the problem with. That's why his innovation was so important is because black people had never had the balls to talk about killing their parents. Eminem came in, set that shit off. And this show is another reason why Latinos need respect for their innovation. We don't have to their parents.
Starting point is 02:43:33 Because of Mortal Technique has a song about taking abuse of their mothers to the whole other level. Big fan of that when I was 16, yeah. Have you ever heard of this one song? Life insurance. So it's like we don't, I mean, a lot of black people don't have life insurance.
Starting point is 02:43:48 so it's like we don't need to kill our parents. Well, there's all kinds of reasons to kill your parents, right? I mean, yeah. You don't have to be in the money. The more I watch crime docs, it's always up to leading back to the money's getting turned over. Well, yeah, like the band is, brothers. I will say that when you watch Tariq Nishid talk about how basically, like, Latino people had no involvement in the creation of hip-hop.
Starting point is 02:44:10 He's not just saying it. He's done a shitload of research and study in order to back up that opinion that he probably held before he had done a bunch of study about it. So I am interested in his documentary because it's like, I don't really understand why that's such an important conversation to have, but he's on a lot of research? He feels unbelievably.
Starting point is 02:44:29 Oh, yes. He did? Go watch him on. Glad. He got into it, arguing about it and shit, too. Right, because the first prominent breakdancing crew to blow up wasn't Roxetti crew fronted by a dude named Crazy Lakes? I feel like you... Were they rabid, though? You are not anticipating the extent to
Starting point is 02:44:45 which he's going to, if Taregen, she was here right now. I think he'd bother you. He'd mark me out? Yeah, because he's spent like a huge, he's like, Candace Owens, when you talk about right-wing shit, it's like, she's just going to floor you because she's got stats on her that are going to, like, overpower your, like, anecdotal feelings. I feel like
Starting point is 02:45:01 Tariq Nashid, I would love to see that debate. I feel like, I am, like, the antithesis of everything that Tariq Nishis stands for. I feel like I am the ban of his existence in human form. He loves black people. You hate black people? No. He, like, him being a, him being
Starting point is 02:45:17 pushing the agenda of racial separatism and me being all about everybody coming together. I'm literally like the antithesis of what he's about. He would like... Will you feel that way if you were downtown and got mugged by three young black men at the age of... You don't think I've ever had
Starting point is 02:45:33 negative experience with black people who are? I'm saying at the age of like... At the age of 5. So if I... I'm sorry, I don't know an origin, villain origin story that made me hate black people. Okay, that is the difference between you and us is that if I get robbed by three black guys, there is nothing inside of me that is going to make me go home
Starting point is 02:45:52 and start screaming a bunch of N-words and talking about how black people are ruining the society. But if you get robbed by three 18th street members, oh, Lord, I don't even want to be there in the room to hear the shit that you could be saying about Mexican people. And if you did, I'm not going to, I'll keep your secret. I'm not telling, I'm not going to tell Cholo what you were saying about Mexican people. I'm not going to report to American Cholo. But for sure, you would be allowed that. It's for sure racist.
Starting point is 02:46:16 Yeah, but that wouldn't even occur to me. Yeah, no. Okay, yeah, at this age. But at the age of 14, at the end of 14, that's what I'm saying. If you get mugged at the age of 14 by gang of black people and you just like... Well, they mugged my best friend. They want him not mugging me. And I don't know. But it's kind of like, I'm cool.
Starting point is 02:46:36 Those guys are driving. It's fire. And don't come around the next time complaining about it and then get beat up for complaining too much. Like, yeah, the last black guy was when he robbed me. I hope you're not as dirty as him. Like, shit's your way. Not bulls is just rat.
Starting point is 02:46:50 Like these crips in Venice just ran up on us. We were like, fucking 13 years old, whatever. Me and he had a fat farm jacket on us. They started pressing him because it was like a nice, yeah. Fat form? Yeah. Damn. I don't know if I ever got beat up by black dude.
Starting point is 02:47:04 Matt Barnes? Matt Barnes. Good guy. Ooh. I'm looking fresher than Matt Barnes and some fat farm eating the chicken parm. Oh. And now your bitch got his dick and arm? You're stroking them off with your one good arm?
Starting point is 02:47:25 Oh, wow. It got dark in this motherfucker real quick. Very dark, brother. All right, tomorrow's a big day. I'm excited. I'm very excited. Yeah, I think I need some extra lube for tomorrow. You're going to fuck your bitch to your verse?
Starting point is 02:47:41 If my bitch needed lube, well, ain't them. And that wouldn't be a very lonely mission. if you did that. No, that's a lonely mission. Tomorrow's the day, man. AMP, watch the fuck out and them other guys. Fizzler, you're done.
Starting point is 02:47:57 Double X-L. I feel like, I don't know, I don't want to call my shot in advance, but I feel like we're going to, let's just check. Oh, no, Tyler. Fuck double X-L, fuck. No, I'll just play.
Starting point is 02:48:07 I just want to see the views. I just want to see the views from the recent ciphers. So this is, I feel like this is what we got to compare our shit too in one way or another. This channel's cracking. 990. Yeah, yo, look how about everything besides this shit does. 997K, 485K.
Starting point is 02:48:27 It was just those two. Yeah, it was just those two. They boosted them. They weren't that good. Yeah, it's like all like the ones that have the more popular rappers. Like this one has... Skinab baby Mexican OT and Scarlet. But actually, I'm shocked that the Bossman Dilo one has half of this one.
Starting point is 02:48:41 I mean, that Mexican OT, Skillab Baby, Scarlet, Cash Cobain and Lay Banks But then this one has Big X to plug, Bos Mede-Delo And well this only has three artists So I guess there's like less to be excited about on this one He reminds me a Mercedes This chick
Starting point is 02:48:58 From No Limit I don't even remember You mean me X? Me X Yeah yeah Yeah Come on at you Me X
Starting point is 02:49:05 She is like me X Michelle Tomorrow's a big day Shout out to everybody Keep an eye on the No Jumber YouTube So you can see what time It's gonna premiere yet we look forward to seeing you in the live chat.
Starting point is 02:49:17 I know I'll be in there. Well, unless I'm doing a podcast when it comes out. Actually, I'll probably do a little break so I can monitor that. Come up with your favorite bar. Shout out to everybody. Yeah, shout out to everybody in whack. I look forward to proving you wrong tomorrow. You feel me?
Starting point is 02:49:31 Ooh. Shout out. I look forward to that as well. Shout out break. Shout out lush. Suspect and Flaco did their thing too. Can't wait for everybody to see it. Cipher Part 2.
Starting point is 02:49:43 Oh, wow. Yeah, it's just a question of when.

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