No Jumper - The NJ Show #273: Bricc Lied about Woody?? Jay Critch Caught Lacking! Kendrick’s New Song

Episode Date: September 18, 2024

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Check, check, check. I told Brick and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't want to say the rapper on here. Yeah, yeah. I want to keep a little bit of surprise points. It's just... Check, check, check. Tell Brick get in here. I'm Brick, baby.

I'm going to say something like that. I'm saying something like... Like, I'm being faithful now. I haven't got a trick lately. Had a bonus since I was born. I'm Brick, baby. That's a stupid double entendre. It'll take them a second.

You like that? Okay, we're not 37 minutes late. We're seven minutes late because we changed it from 4 to 430. And they're all making up a narrative that Brick is just like abusing the 22ster by showing up late. When in reality, I moved it back because we were doing an interview that got pushed back a little bit. And this is part of what happens when you're. running a media company and sometimes when you're doing content things over, you got to... Now, Brick not being in the chair right now is...

Not the best look. Perhaps a little over the line. I can hear him out there. The cold part is, is like, Brick was way more punctual than I was today. He was here before... Yeah, yeah, that's a good point, too. He's here way before you, yeah. Yeah.

And, look, he drank so much green that his outfit... He's been sipping that green. Look, how much green he'd been sipping that his pants. He took a green, lean poop. He just was in here with hella green sippers. I just seen. Now, they were passing squirt around. Pause.

Whoa. No, they were passing around squirt, but there was no, there wasn't green in it, right? Oh, man, you can see those green water bottles? Yeah, but he had a two-liter of squirt. And that probably was green. You wouldn't know because it's tinted green already. So you pour up the green and, like, it's kind of hard to tell. Nah.

If you have a green tinted bottle, yeah. Yeah. But I'm just not like green. It is hard. Are you not green friendly? I'm not green educated. As much as I talk bad about the green. And I feel like honestly, like in my future songs, there's always going to be some anti-green bars.

Just because I feel like that's like a funny thing. Not always, but at least for a little while. Came in the game with the F the green. No, you know what it is? It's like I'm such a different kind of rapper than I need to like pick other things to deal with. It's like I'm not going to name off my ops, but I'll name that. green sippers. So I could just go in on them.

Green sippers are essentially ops at this point. That's like what I'm going with. Yeah, yeah. That's shorthand for ops. It's like the homeless K movement. The homeless K movement, which is like, you know, I'm really, I'm glad that the, you know, the biggest ally in the homeless K movement.

Well, because it's open, it's open ended. Anyone could go under the homeless umbrella. You could become homeless. Yeah, I was about to say, you willing to put them initials on your face? Well, the initials have some connotations, which probably aren't the best thing. Are you big homeless K out here? The initial one to most likely avoid out here.

But he's starting down. I'm stirring down. I'm starting down. You won't get the homeless K tattoo? The abbreviation. Well, yeah, the abbreviation might be a bit abrasive. He's got me worried about wearing Hello Kitty. Yeah.

Yeah. I didn't even know. He told me the other day, he's like, watch how are you wearing the hello kitty. Bro, I thought hella bad. It was like the other night we're going to Haterworld because my girl's interviewed on there. So we're mobbing and she'd bring one. Oh, that was your girl's interview? Yeah.

Did you just do it with Kompah? No, I didn't do it. Oh, that's old. Yeah, that's like a month and out. Algorithm fed me a clip that I was like, oh. It wasn't the algorithm. It was Hater World. Oh, they reposed up.

He's like, ah, you feel of me? Like, no, yeah, that's the old-ass clip. So your girl had an interview and you tag him? Yeah. So I will, you know. He's the tag along. I'm the plus one. He did an interview Saturday.

She came along. Yeah, there you go. It's regular. I'm the plus one. And on the way, one of her homegirls, we didn't really know that good, but she's kicking in. We're making all these homeless K jokes.

And then, like, later on, she's talking about, like, yeah, and I was living in the shelter. And then I was about to say, I thought it was like she fucking took a hot shot in a bag or something. That would have been a crazier story. You know what? The more I listen to that song, the more I listen to that song,

the more I realized that you did something kind of funny, which is the thing where you say, I'm going to do this, and then you break down exactly what that thing is in the lyrics. Because you like, oh no, you just, you break down what it is, then you give the time. I'm going to miss a dog with a fan, hit him with a hot shot.

Because sometimes I'll be writing a bar in my head and I'll start thinking like, nah, like the first part is you just saying it in a cool way, and then the second part is you explaining what it is. Yeah, like it's really Q&A. It's giving a lot of context to the, you feel what I mean? You don't have to, if you can

do it that way, if it's not really a hip word, you know what I'm saying, you give them a little example to go to make the definition. But sometimes, all right, since I'm brand new to rapping, I love that they get to see this from like a child's perspective

where it's like I'm really out here, damn, we didn't do the title, huh? I gotta do the title while we're talking to. I'll take a complex series of syllables and try to think of something that rhymes with it that you could theoretically put. Because a lot of bars you write, you rhyme the last two syllables. And then you don't think at all about the beginning part of it. Oh, he's deep into this.

Yeah, he's deep into this. But the other day, I found myself sitting on the plane thinking, I used to buy and sell hoodies. Now I'm with YSL Woody. But once you get to like three, four, five syllables that you're, like, putting together that, like, sound the same, this is more like a word game. I don't want to be that kind of rap. I don't want to be an M&M style right.

I would just by the thing, you're going to turn into a lyricist if you keep going to breaking down no syllables. You don't like J-bo? You don't like, you don't like Draco, you don't like BabyTron, you don't like BLP kosher. These dudes all-you-should show me a verse where Drakeos rhyme in front. five syllables. Really? Yeah, he does it back to back.

I'm back up on this crazy shit. Bob the side show, Maniac, I'm Lou Skywalker with his black playing. Oh, yeah, okay. What you're talking about? Fool? I guess we could bring her. That fool has hell of internal patterns

all throughout his shit. He's, Draco's incredibly technical. And that's what all of you, Draco clones, that's a big umbrella. That's what you don't have. You don't have the wordplay. You don't have the originality.

You're just like copying the same vocal, doing them rapping like you, you're sleeping. You know what I mean? But you're not really That's what made Drakego It's not bad to have wordplay You know what I mean?

Right A lot of rappers That you might not expect But one thing I'd love to see From a 22 pocket At some point In your musical journey And I think it wouldn't be true

To your origins If you didn't do this It's like a dipset style camera You're gonna say a BMX song DMX on a BMX Well that's what That's what the bar that he

just sounds like Cameron Exactly that's like some Why you sell wood Yeah No and sometimes when I'm Right and wraps in my head I noticed myself flowing like Cameron In 2003

And I'm like okay Where is that coming from You don't need to rap like that Why does your brain think That that's the only flow available Are we saying that he was ABCD rap Just disguised? I think he was an incredibly

ahead of his time rapper And if anything, the thing that stood out about Cameron so much was just that he was like a super gangster in our mind. He was like a killer damn near. Yeah, back then. But thank God that was not social media. Bro, he rhymed. He said, we did Delancey Street, cat food, fancy feast. There's no reason for you to rhyme those things.

No, goddamn, she's sweet. We did Delancy Street, cat food, fancy piece. When I hear that, I'm like, that is insane. Wasn't it dog food fancy feast? Cat food? Yeah. Fancy pieces of cats. Fancy pieces.

Oh, gas cat food. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But dog food would have kind of... Their pussy level is like... Like... We're seeing that you get no twat. Dog, I own a cat. What are you talking about?

No cat. Yo, this guy donated $5 to be a retard. Draco was overrated. Y'all hype him up way too much. He was not that. For sure. Okay, you just literally find a local bridge and you know what to do.

Yeah. No harness. I'm saying, no, Cameron is the same person that delivered. We get the looters looting. Computers. Exactly. Yeah. You dig is getting shot at.

Call me, I do the shoot. Because, all right, that's the ultimate combo. If you can be genuinely convincingly gangster and then also a technical rapper, that I feel like is like the ultimate combination. It was a little ABC-D-ish. I mean, at the time, it was crazy. At the time, I thought he was so weird compared to somebody like 50. I swear to guy.

50. I love 50, but 50 to me was like a fairly like paint by numbers type rapper in comparison to Camma. Cam's in the same category as fabulous and Jada Kiss and like the punchline-wise and all that. No, punchline-wise, I just think rhyme pattern-wise is, I think he did it on purpose, though. He was the first person to, like, dumb down the flow. I don't know. I get what you're saying, but as far as, like, rhyme-wise, not.

Like, I think as far as using nonsense words and, like, funny slang, like, great googly-moogily. You know what I mean? Like, he was saying like... Saying that is insane. same. Yeah, that's because I'm about to say, let somebody else go googly-moly. But think about it. Think about it. Cam, then, who's his first artist under him that he

really brings up? Jewel's. Jewel's was rapping in like an incredibly simplistic style at that time in comparison. Riming the same thing over and over. Fire. Yeah. Like, Zewills was way. But it was like simpler.

Hold on. Hold on. It was younger. It was louder. It was more like rhyming the same thing over and over. Adam. He said, I'll jam moving slump you. Leave your body and ranch cuckamonga with ants moving under. What are you talking about, bro? Like,

what are y'all talking about? Yeah. Jewel's was too crazy. Jewel, he influenced old Wayne to step his bars up. Super much. People like really, like, the revisionist history that's going on. Okay, okay. Let me. Where people don't rock with, yeah, I can't

feel my face. Let me just. Where people want to act like Jewels is not nice or wasn't one of the hottest rappers. No, I love it. Please don't turn this into like Adam doesn't like Jules, but can we, can we, like, all right, we can ignore the, the, the, well, dip, dip, sit, sit, what he grip, grip, tech, techs, who you wit with, throw up, you. Now, well, that's the chorus.

I don't want to judge him based on that. And by the way, you know, I'll be with a gang. I'll be with a gang of gangs who hang and bang animals. Arangetangetangs. Hammers move. Bangers bang. damn it's dude damn it dude the game has changed

I got a hoe selection a whole collection a whole selection of my but that's great but that's great wordplay fool that's awful that's looting

looting to to shoot or shooting shooter shooting computer de Putin no for sure like my my opinion on this as like a high schooler was that it was hell of simplistic looking at it now I'm like wow he's doing so much more than so many people

in this day and age yeah you're a rapper now, so you got to appreciate that. But he did basically the same thing that you just praise Brick for, but in a different way. Right. He like, nowadays rappers will just say one word, and it's like a triple

entendre or whatever. This fool will just take every possible meaning you could have with the wordplay and break it down separately. Yeah. So I don't know. I always thought that L's is stupid underrated. I really can't believe I waited until I was 40 to become a rap star. it's an interesting

Should I skip star In that description? Yeah, he's doing a song with a We ain't gonna say it up You gotta keep a secret If you're gonna be part of my team You gotta keep a secret Because yo, that's why

If I have a little bit of a different energy today It's because I've got a little bit Of that pre-studio jitter going on Where it's like, oh, I gotta show improve tonight And it's not like the first song Where I went into the studio Three different times to fix shit Like, no, I'm going in, and whatever I do there, that's my verse.

That's it. Granted, it's only going to be 12 to 16 this time, so you don't have to worry about showing all the way off. You showed out. Showed out for the first time. I wrapped kind of long before it. Yeah, you look at two and a half minute long verse. That's like a show off.

For the first time, I haven't met anybody who could do more than fucking 12 bars their first time. And they really stop at eight, like, I'll be back. I got so much shit. Like, it's going to be hard for me to figure out, Like, what I'm not going to need, like, any new ideas while I'm in that because I got so much shit that I'm going to have to fucking run through here. Yeah. It's going to be a thing. You got to make sure you leave one of those good LGBTQ or whatever extra letters they had.

You got to leave a couple of them. You want to sneak peek? You want to sneak peek? Yeah. I'm in Mechanicsville, looking for a transmission. Oh. I'm on a transmission. That's what he said

He said, I don't see no mechanics here I'm about to say where everybody got tools up under that goddamn build Can we put the AC on? I'm fucking melting in here already. God damn it. Hey, we in here people? I'm happy to be here. I forget that the studio sessions don't start till late.

So I was thinking we were going to have to wrap this a little bit early and then I realized like, oh, no, like I'm going to actually. You can't be 30 minutes early. Black guy. I don't want to be the guy sitting in the fucking car, no, for sure. But, no, it's just, it's weird. Like, suspect really clowned me when he realized that I had booked a studio session for 10 in the morning. That was, like, incomprehensible to him.

Nah, but a 10 to 10 is good, though, because, all right, just imagine if these rappers did wake up and right when they first start getting high at 10 in the morning, they started at the studio. all the fresh high thoughts are there. Do you mean weed? When you say hi? Whatever. We're just putting high as high. High is high. Yeah, it can be nyes.

High and bye. Yeah. Wake up to a Noss is fire. So look, just imagine by 10 o'clock how many perks and liens they already did just to get their self ready for the studio. You in there and you get the... Exactly. And they think that's dope.

They think that if they're like, completely fucked in the head by the time they get in the studio that's good. It is. From my perspective, okay. It can be. No, that's the best time. I could sit down and write a YouTube video at 9 in the morning.

I could write a 10 minute video. It probably took me like two hours. Like I would just sit down. My brain's going crazy in the morning. Just caffeine and I could write so much. In comparison, I've tried to get home after work at like 8 p.m. And try to write. It doesn't fucking work.

Like I just, I need that early morning energy. Yeah, that's what I said. There's no drugs in a system. But that's what I'm saying that then I feel like going in the studio early in the morning, my brain is firing. For sure. By 8 p.m., my brain is mushy. Now, granted, but that might give you the raps that you want.

Yeah. It might be all right. That's what they think. But I went early this time, and it was like br-dr-da-da, because it was like the first wave out. But I forgot like, oh, I remember I changed my studio hours from 10 to 10 at one point, the 12-hour blocks because I was having them from 6 to 6. and by two in the morning, you literally like,

yeah. But some great things come from that, but also, like, I don't know. I mean, there's definitely some Draco IG Lives that were like incomprehensible. Of course, some songs that weren't so far off from that. But the shit that you're thinking about when you're that loaded,

that's the thing. What drugs do? Irresponsible. Drugs remove, like, the filter and the doubt. Yeah, for sure. That's why people enjoy drugs. Oh, shit. Like, damn, I'm about to rap about that.

Flicky. Can I just point this out, too? All right. So, like, there's some people in the comments saying, like, this show locks direction. And I feel you, because we just talked about goddamn whatever for the past 20 minutes. This is my thing. When we started podcasting, not like us, but just in general, podcasting, the standard was so low. It was like, you could talk about your day.

You could talk about your girl. You could talk about we went to the club the other day. You could talk about whatever. It's all good. It's just like a bunch of homies sitting around talking. Which still to this day, you go listen to Joe Rogan they're just shooting the shit

they're not like trying to hit hot topics trying to do the news etc but like there's something in hip hop where everybody is so clickbait oriented and everybody wants to like hit the big topics and stuff that when you sit here and don't talk about the current events

people act as if you're bugging like you're fucking wasting your time on camera my thing is if we all talk about the biggest current events of the day then we're all talking about the exact same things, and that is inherently boring. Personally, I think us sitting around talking about rapping for 20 minutes is enjoyable. I thought it was, I mean, like, this is what I enjoy, and first of all, it is homies.

Right. We don't get to see each other every day who sit down, chopping it up. I don't want to see any of my homies every day. At all. Okay, go ahead. Your homies kill people. Some of them. That was the fuck they don't.

Shit. That was what crazy. They ain't done nothing wrong. not but like and beyond that we just broke down the intricacies of juell santana and cameron's rhyme patterns like what are you talking about here for the culture like if you think adam's coming in just try to coach your album he's here to stay he'll be here till he's 50 rapping because there are a few things about rapping that i find uh exciting which is number one like just the the process of kind of kind of learning how how it works how it comes together etc that's that's

part of it. And then also, I'm so excited for the song I'm doing tonight because that's going to be like, I'm going to sign up for tune core, like all these other rappers do. And I'm going to actually see what it's like using the app that everybody's using, figuring out how to, why do we do the splits? How does the producer get? All this little shit that I'm curious about. I'm very excited. So you're going to tune core. So no United Masters, no distro kid. You take your talent straight to tune core. Well, listen. I mean, if that's a kind of antiquated. United Masters wants to tap in and create like some kind of like weird media narrative like Oh, NL E Chapa signed with us instead of a label or whatever.

Remember that? Yeah. That was a thing. I mean, sure. Let's do that. No, I did. I got paid X amount of dollars to do Instagram Live one time where I talked about how great United Masters is.

Have I ever used it? No. It's a service that anybody gets signed up for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People try to like act like it's a label that those are. No, if you crack it, they give you an advance. No, these distros, if you do enough number, they'll give you advanced to do your thing or they look at your numbers and there's sum you up

and give you like 12 months of that shit yeah and beyond like you know culture vulture is such an antiquated term i think that like adam and myself we're more like we're both culture well we're more like culture condors you feel me i don't feel that way we got way more wingspan than a vulture i feel like no but no honestly when it comes to culture vulture like motherfuckers got to like veer away from that when they talk about Adam. I don't think that you guys understand how much fun he has being a part of the culture. Like, I watched you.

I feel like that might lend credence to their argument. No, no, no. You're having it too much fun, guy. It doesn't help much. But what I'm saying is it's not like he coming the shit on the culture and not like they haven't been exposed to this shit. So their first time seeing it, of course they're going to be happier than a fag in the dick factory, you know what I mean?

And in some cases, I am actually that fag. No, but Did you just call Atlanta a dick factory? You know what's funny is that I've seen some dudes getting canceled Like last week we talked about How hot the chicks are in Atlanta I've seen some black dudes getting canceled

And we're going to get more into these dudes after this But they're getting canceled for saying that the girls in Atlanta Are all nasty and fat Really? You're tripping Yeah, I mean maybe at the fucking grocery store or something But we're not in Magic City, buddy Yeah I had to give up

out of a shot, he had a boner. So crazy when we walked out. Literally. He hit me with the Narcan to make that thing go down. I had to hit him right in the main vein, dude. Hey, maybe that works. Narc. That's a good way to get rid of your boner.

What if it permanently, like, just, it seals it. That's why I, that's on the Patreon. That's part of it. I'm 22. This is no gentleman of the coolest Patreon slash only fans on the world. I'm in here with my man, bricked up brick. Raise your bricks. That's why I said in the intro to all of them.

baby. Oh, I got a brick baby. I got a brick baby bar. Yeah, yeah, you got a little gay brick baby bar. As you should. It's not gay. It is. No.

Anytime you refer to me as a dick. No, it's just me saying, I'm brick. Baby. I'm just like, just he really sneaking you in there. Yeah, I know. But you're talking about your dick. See, okay.

Secret boners are insane. Part of, okay, part of podcasting, there's like a logic in podcasting, which is like, you don't do anything all week. and then you come in and you just talk about what's in the news. In theory, you could live a very exciting life, then come and do a podcast, and then you all talk about your exciting life.

Exactly. But almost nobody does that. And a lot of people do it badly. There's other podcasts that I've watched at times throughout my life where they'll do a tour. They'll go off for the weekend and do live shows, and then they go do their podcast. And they just talk about the live shows,

but they talk about it like it's way more interesting than it is. It is. I'm a hell of a close photo. It feels, great when you're actually like in that moment but in reality if you're like and then we went there and we did the live show and it's just like if there's not like some kind of variety to it it's also like really insular references that only the the hardcore fans that are into the lore but like a random pool would be like oh and then when joey said bananas like yeah it's funny or 17 people are

great in real life but it's sad jokes like you have to sort of roll about oh the podcast but if you take the events that happen at these live shows like oh brick was in a corner with you two females. But Rick was in the corner with two females. They were both drunk. They were high, I think, off ecstasy. You go into detail. They make it sound way better than what the fuck.

But that's like if we went on tour and we were really living our best life. We'd have all kinds of shit that we probably shouldn't talk about. In reality, we're extremely well-behaved guys and our Venezuelan girlfriends don't need to beat us over the heads. Can I ask you? How was your Vlad experience? I'm very

curious to hear more about this. Please. I had butterflies like a bitch when I was pulling up He told me that on the phone He's like I actually kind of got anxiety I got a little bit of butterflies Before Vlad's kind of top of the ladder

Yeah But then it cleaned it up He's like but you didn't know jump or two Yeah Yeah yeah I was like that when I pulled up Nah but it's like Vlad Like all right fuck

Because I don't want to blow it So I'm like do I go in here And like avoid the controversial shit But he didn't even go down that route He really like kept real But Adam told me, like, it's your first one. He's going to do, like, the life story. He didn't really hit much, like, no jumber drama?

Nah, he didn't go into no jumber drama, but he did do his research on me coming up. Like, he definitely went through some early say cheese footage in small's eyes. Smalls eyes. Yeah, definitely I can tell that he watched those two and maybe like a newer say cheese. It was mostly. Eric Holder and

It stopped right at Eric Holder and like how we came up together. Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When it comes out, it'll probably be called Brick Baby tells his life story. He loves that title. Yeah, I'm with that, but I did, though.

And then he kind of cornered in on my mom's life and her selling dope and stuff. Oh, that's interesting. He knew a lot about the case. Oh, wow. Yeah. See? Did his research. Officer Vlad, you got a lot.

He's an investigator for real. Yeah. I'm telling my mom that that case needs to be publicized. We got to publish this case. Did the thoughts of the way long, oh, my bad, that's an interesting thing you said. I don't want to derail from that. Well, we can't, we should talk about that momentarily, but my last question was just, well, actually, I forget what my question was going to be. I just want to just cap off the VAD thing.

But overall, we was good. After the interview, we kicked it for like an hour. Just shooting the shit. He put me down on little life events that took place and telling me basically like, yeah. Oh, now I remember. That bitch-ass bowing down shit to the industry. Like, you know what I mean? Like certain people try to play gangster back in the past with him and he just doesn't go for it.

I've tried to get some past, no jumber host, I'm glad. so that's why I thought it was cool that he... That he selected me. He reached out about the Brick Baby interview because I was like, oh, okay, cool. I felt like I made it. Damn, you know what?

I got an option to go into New York with Flacco to do academics. I'm a podcast. He said he was going to bring Snoopy badass. I don't think he said that name. Flacco did say that. He said he was... You just told on him.

Oh. Why are you putting yourself in it? I think he was eluding. No, what I was saying, was I had an option until Flacco bought his star guest with him, his special guest plus one.

He picked Snoopy over you. No, he still wanted me to come. Oh. I don't think that we go mix. You and Snoopy. I'm allergic to Jerry Curl Juice. Right. Well, I mean, last time you guys were here,

you were screaming at each other. That footage never came out. No, but we would... Give us some credit. That footage never came out. Yeah, that never... I dropped the other footage, though. It was my fault that the other footage came out.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And that's not even... the main event. That wasn't even the altercation that took place that day. That's the crazy part. They went wild for the sidebar. Snoopy funny is not about high-gola.

Snoopy, me and Snoopy in New York together. No. We talked. We was bold the last time. We talked to blood. That's good. We was bold. I like soupie. He's entertaining.

The last time I was on, Vlad was 2014, so I'm like and the black player was cracking. I'll try to slip that in there next. Like, come on. Yeah, yeah. Vlad, you're going to get a lot of short. Pass the awesome fent next week.

Do you feel like me? Do I need to go eat again? I thought about telling you like, yeah, when you go see Vlad you should probably be like sober-ish. Early in the morning. I figured you would know. Yeah, I only snorted two blues on the way. Blue's not. I figured that.

Both nostrils. I figured that Zan would help you with that anxiety. Nah, I can't go on Vlad off of Zan. It would be amazing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that would be so funny. Yeah, oh, my God. Imagine the one-eye brick on there, like.

Yo, that was that so funny. I should do a flat interview and just get fucked up before. He would hate you. Yeah, he probably just, like, wouldn't put it out. He would, like, ordered me up the room. He's like, come on, Adam, bro. Now the last- He's leaving you, he'll be talking to you afterwards.

Like, where are you going through? What are you doing, bro? Yeah. The last interview I did, actually, he didn't put out because he's like, bro, this is going to implicate You said like a lot of crazy shit. I was on a lot of drugs. Right.

Yeah. That was around dog color time. It was right around that time. It was peak dog color era. Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah, definitely. Okay, this is a narrative that a lot of people are putting on you. Oh, shit.

You rated on Pee We Longway, and you got them caught up in a federal indictment. I'm just reading people put that out there. Bro. How do you answer for yourself? Why does Wack know that I went to the studio in the middle of night by myself? I say, oh, my God, he takes a regular conversation from Adam and then puts it like, well, he did go to the studio last night by himself. No, but you want to know what Wack actually sent me, though? He sent me a fucking image of Rich Trapper doing a live stream saying Brick Baby and Adam basically got long way caught up.

Wack sent me a screenshot of it, not favorably. He was sending it to me to say, like, look at this goofy-ass shit. My response was, I didn't even meet long way, or I wasn't even around him at all. And Brick Baby, I think, went to the studio with him for like a couple hours one night. Exactly. Yeah. No, I saw him two nights in a row. We was over there, but this was people don't understand.

That's my brother-in-law. When we go around each other as high fives and giggles, because we don't do no damn trapping together. Or if he is trapping, you get what I'm saying? Like, it's no point of me asking him. what you got here, where you're going, what, like, nigger, those questions would be suspicious.

Like, if it was, I'd be in there with a suitcase in the pocket full of the money making sure doing what I'm doing. So it's like, I mean, beyond that, that's such a retarded-ass thing to say. Yeah, I said it because.

And then, yeah, go ahead. Because, like, off rip, it's a federal indictment, you know what I mean? That doesn't just... With a hundred people.

That doesn't just happen within a one week period, like, based on someone showing up, hey, guess what, Hello, FBI? My first trip back to Atlanta in 15 months. Brick went to the studio with them. That's all we need.

We got them. The eagle has landed. What I did want to clear out, everybody on my dick about a Fed. I've never had a Fed case a day in my life. I had a state case. I went to court. I got a DA reject. There's no more court dates after that.

I know niggas want me to go to jail so bad That brick ain't going to jail, man And I ain't have to tell on nobody Sometimes when you just shut the fuck up Shit goes away I got hit up Sunday by one of our Atlanta connects Who said, I got some information about peewee I seen the paperwork his name was not in the indictment

The people that picked up the ones that's getting charged All of them are facing life Peewe's real name was not on there I think they just detained him So is this an example of all the hip-hop news sites, like basically running with a fun narrative. Yeah. Shout out to Remo for being the first to break some news that me and them was talking

that this might possibly be the case. So Remo put it out there first? I don't know. I don't know. That's two cops. That's two cops. That's two cops. What I meant was he's two cops.

Yeah. Oh, by itself. He's a big boy. Well, I mean, listen, Rimo's been getting it a little bit. I don't know if he cares, but he's been getting a little bit of body shaming in the chat. And he'd been getting... And the Reddit. And people are getting on his ass in the comments of that Woody interview?

Bad. Yeah? Which really, we were just doing what we always do was just talking to a motherfucker. But I don't know. Something about the fact that he's, like, not supposed to be talking about shit, they're really, like, on Remo's ass in those comments. Bad. Yeah.

I've seen people, like, bringing attention to the fact that he was getting specific dates. Things like that. Yeah. Yeah, Remo, he wants the content, man. Remo's the best. If you're willing to talk about it, he's willing to ask you. I mean, you know what I'm saying? I've seen that he's took Adams approach and just, like, way worse.

Because he's really, if you look at it, it's like good cop, bad cop. They're expected Adam to come with the sneak move. And then it's like, he just comes in like, yeah, so, uh. That happened when you was at the barbershop. What barberscare can't get when y'all pulled up a shot? Barbershop. Talk about that. He reversed Uno cards them, bro.

Like, yeah, they expected to be at him. And then, yeah, he come from, Danny. You just put the whole operation on blast. That's the one-two plunge, man. That's what it is. But they were also on your ass a lot about spending time with Woody in that block. You guys. Thank you, Adam.

I appreciate you. You know what? You lied, Brick. I'm opening the door for you being real with the people out there. I'm sorry. You lied to me, Brick. I said to an ultimate fuck boy He doesn't give it down

I said listen Maybe when I took the picture It would never happen right And I didn't give a fuck Because like even when the vlog started off You see when I asked You remember me from back of the day And he's like yeah he used to be across

Like at the end of the day It ain't really none of my business What's going on inside that courtroom because he's not going up there and like pointing that thug like he did it yeah that was him he really trying to wiggle my boy out of a situation so at that point it's like okay boom and i know you that's cool i said i wasn't in the vlog i didn't say i wasn't talking to woody i thought that if you look every time that we somewhere i'm to the side like i'm trying to play off the camera but at the bolden alley i told people at the bolden alley we had a good time

Wait, I mean, I'm not dumb? It was me and Woody's show after that. But didn't he say off rip, it was the interview that you weren't a part of? I didn't hear you. Yeah, that's what you said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Am I bugging? I said that I wasn't in a vlog like that.

But then when the vlog, the whole time when you were saying that, I was thinking that that blog's going to come out and I feel like there's going to be enough footage of brick being in the vicinity of Woody that nobody's going to be able to like really discern that. I was kind of thinking that when you were saying. The Greensstone happened. And it was my idea. I was like, let's go to the Greenstone. Yeah, I mean, hey, shit out.

All right. Thanks, bro. I was having the time on my life. But from your perspective, from your perspective, just because he told you're not even in your city. No, no, no, that's my city. I don't get to say Atlanta. Okay.

But it's not like your primary city. I feel like it's just, It's different. I did some bullshit with a cool person. Yeah, we're just hanging out, doing regular people shit. It's still the same Woody from back of the day. He's still a cool guy. Just some bullshit.

He did some bullshit. But the fact that he's trying to clean up the bullshit that he did right now is ultimately a plus. Because had he been like somebody that was really ratting on thug and saying fuck thug and all that shit, like you know what I'm saying? I hope he'd get a hundred years. He would have never seen this. But I don't think he'll be that big of a star either. Well, yeah. The fact that he did the 42 fake is.

And you also made it pretty clear, I felt on the last pod, that you made yourself available because you wanted to make sure that Adam and then was... 100%. But I mean, at the end of the day, like, even without me being there for Adam, it's just like, all right, I was outside.

I was there with Adam. Had Adam not contacted, we went out, I wouldn't have been there. But it's like there was a lot of people that wasn't snitches there. How about that? and they're all dealing with him. So from my standpoint, it's like, okay, he's not dead.

He's been outside. Like, maybe Atlanta is fucking with him, but you get what I'm saying? Like, I didn't know that nobody was fucking with him because on the case, I heard him and thug on the phone. He's paying thug. I mean, he's telling him to go pull up on his dad, this, that, the other. So it's like, you're in rotation. Shit, you get what I'm saying?

That was my mindset going out there. And I spoke. about it on the show previously kept that same standpoint I spoke with him and other people around throughout the whole day

just like, oh yeah man like you know like what's going on that or not still keep him on standpoint of like circuit shit ain't straight

but you help a bro so it is what it is a lot of people wouldn't even voice their standpoint or their POV to Woody because they scared that's what I was going to ask you

Briggas or anyone that's actually publicly or privately said anything to you unfavorably about this that you give a fuck about their opinion? Besides Mando. No, because I had talked to all, I talked to everybody before I went. It wasn't like something because I told Adam the first day we got

there, like I don't know if I'm going to put my hands on because slime them older humies, they ain't really feeling how he moving, da-da-da-da-da-da. And the NPRI was like, oh, handle your business for a year, don't do the interview type shit. You know what I mean? And that's somebody that I fuck with you know what I mean

and I value his opinion the other people that's talking like I mean that's what they do they talk about brick for clickbait Brick says or Rimo said that Woody unfollowed you he did he probably mad because I was explaining why I was kicking with him but at the end of the day

it is what it is because yeah and that and that's like the fucked up like situation that you're put in the midst of because someone's going to be mad yeah everybody going to be mad but I mean I figured that was Kevin? And I didn't even know he followed me. That's a fucking... I don't know.

I mean, once you start exploring, like, who follows who, because people were pointing out the same thing that in the, in the, like, Metro tagged you. Yeah. But doesn't follow you. The Reddit pointed that out for me. I didn't even know he unfollow me. I don't know. Wait, so he's through with it as far as y'all friendship? I don't know. Dundum ching.

you have to know the catalog you get that. Yeah, yeah, you got to know the catalog and know that insider. The Brick made produced, Me, Thurga, Metro, have a song called through with it. Very deep. Yeah.

Deep reference. But I guess so. I mean... Shots academics in the chat, by the way. I don't know if the follow button has something to do with your friendship, but like the fact that you hit unfollow, if you wasn't like doing a mass

unfollowing, then you have no reason to unfollow the brick. I try to not take it too serious when people don't follow me. realize they might be having a bad day. I'm a complicated guy. You didn't get Woody number that day? Calling me, ass, you might as fucky?

I don't think I got it. Actually, that's a great. I love to call him. No, it's crazy. Except with you, me and Adam never unfollowed each other, even like during the high. I'm the one that kicked it with your hot ass all day.

You go, follow me. Oh, shit. Hey, that a bitch. There you go. Yeah, he should, like, super follow me. Yeah. Unless there's another Woody that I have in my phone for.

You're pretty gay. So if somebody else has to fix it. Whatie? What, you piece of shit? What's going on? Hey, hey, I'm mad at your ass. Oh, what? Yeah, yeah.

They said, look, I just discovered that you unfollow me today. God, man, I don't be like with me, man. Hey, you like that. Go ahead. You're saying what they want to say. I said it. I just said that shit right now. I said he probably mad because how much I've been explaining myself about

me kicking it with him and taking a picture. I kicked it with your hot ass, no matter what, them cameras on whatever, nigga, you my boy, I need my follow back, nigga. And we doing this on camera for everybody, nigga. It's going to be smoke.

I want some smoke behind that. Man, that's true. I've seen that I post you. I try to entertain me, but they can hide it. But if you don't keep making an excuse, if I had to go do something somebody, it can get done.

I don't care who know about it. Exactly. If y'all ain't somebody doing that to me, Don't be speaking on me. Exactly. So y'all want to get on these interviews and be like, oh, who did it? I ain't going to do that too.

You're going to tell. So why are you talking about me? Exactly. Hey, you ain't talking about me. You talk about them niggins that say they're looking for you. Because I don't know what they said that Joe. I know that. Hey, man.

Hey, y'all going to get me in talk with you. Yeah, no, we ain't even going to go that far end to it. But, yeah, I feel the same. I don't think nobody really looking for you, brother. I read the message you sent And I'm like Bro, you're you Yeah

Man, these niggas ain't nobody That's why they steal free All the killers in jail Exactly Exactly Hey man Hey I'm rock it with Woody though

To the TV We live I don't know how many thousand people Watch it But I mean I think my followback Man fuck these niggas man I ain't going back on that

Hey you want to do a song Yeah Oh man you You got to pay me, though, Adam. Ain't shit free? Yeah, TuneCourt going to pay you. We're going to split it. Who going to pay me?

TuneCore. Zuncourt. Zoom court. You know, that's a... Our song is called ZoomCort. ZoomCore. TuneCore and ZoomCore is insane. Where Alina?

Where's your hose at? Where's FIFA at? I just want to speak. I just want to speak. I want to see because he find me a house fan of all these other women. Spoiler. No. What are you doing?

You're just sitting in this white room? What's going on? How are you going to ask her? I know her type. This is an underclosed location. I can't show where is it. I'm getting trouble. No, this is Lenna, if I introduce her to the while.

I was going to be like, pull me aside. I don't understand what he's saying. She's going to be like, what was he saying? I couldn't understand. She's going to understand when she's see it. Yeah, we all trying to see it. I keep seeing, it's your wife. Not bad.

I take that bad. I don't play with people wife like that. It's all good. You're allowed to be horny. What's up? I've seen a girl posting a video or you sleeping in her bed. I was.

Yeah, you were passed out. I don't recall. I still post a picture with me in the front of back, too, don't. Yeah, man, you got to get your game together, though. You're moving around. You're moving around. Messy, Woody. We don't want to see you get got.

Oh, that's why they call them Woody. That's your beat, man. You know, me all I don't know where they get these pictures from. I don't be cat. It's the bitches that you're putting dick in. That's that AI, motherfucker, man. Man, I'm scared that's white girls. You ain't been to R-kelly me?

That's to R-Kelly you. You got an R-kelly them. You got to piss on them. I ain't doing none of that. Don't do that. All right. Hey, Woody, appreciate you, bro. Much love.

All right, man. Good man. Good man right there. Shut up, Woody. I used to buy and sell hoodies. Now I'm on the block with YS. Woody. Sheesh.

That's funny, right? That's too corny, though. It doesn't make any sense. Buy and sell hoodies. Why is that? Did you do that? Were you like a big thrifter? But I could also say buy and sell goodies.

There you go. That's better. I had Brick would be. What about pussy? Now in his hood, he's no goody. I used to buy and sell pussy. Oh, see, there you go. That's much better.

That sounds more like a rapper thing to say. Buy and sell pussy. There you go. This is why you get paid the big bucks. I used to buy and sell booty. Yeah, I'm on the block with Wye-Sell woody. That's closer anyway. There.

We've now arrived. We found it. This is the process. Oh, yo, I should say something tonight about how I got a thousand, a thousand bottles of baby oil, but I ain't puff. Something like that. Oh, yeah. Adam's going to jail. You ever come here?

If you could go to jail for baby oil and dick pills, come here. You got an indictment right here. Yeah. You got an indictment right here. I thought that was a joke. The thousand bottles. Well, dick chocolate. I mean, honestly, I don't know if that's been like.

like really like established that that's a hundred percent of fact but that's definitely like I woke up this morning and that was like the headline that was headline. I saw it a hundred times in a row on Twitter. But this is also I mean I saw it from the shoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. The same source that confirmed the

Pee-Wy-Longway incarceration. So, you know. Yeah, man. But I feel like why not stock up? He's the guy at his Costco's. Okay. He is a

guy. All right, but this is the thing. Even if you're buying lube at Costco, I feel like, really, how much lube is going to be the maximum amount that you're able to get in one? Just imagine Diddy, my bad. I feel like a palette of lube is still not going to be a thousand bottles.

But what I'm saying is just imagine Diddy going in somewhere to buy a bottle of lube himself. The whole world is going to have that footage. So he says somebody like, look, you know I like to fuck all a tonne.

Get me a thousand bottles. A thousand and a thousand. We do everything big. It's a thousand bottles of Saracan house. Why are they a thousand motherfucking?

It could have been the remnants of the COVID era and or he could be filling up entire. You know he always shiny. That's for the men. That's not for sex. That's for all the men.

This is the question of I used to buy Gordia shit. He could bathe in it. Why do you need a thousand bottles? Why can you get a 242 Bottle 64 ounces Spunk lube? Yo.

Pierre-Silica, a $242,000 bottle? I mean, you don't need a thousand of these. Most people don't have a house big enough to fit a thousand of these. Well, he does. So he has a whole store. It's probably like a fucking RX. No, but realistically, you probably don't want to pull up with a whole thing of spunk on deck. You probably want to have little bottles that are kind of portable.

You can stick it in your back pocket. Yeah. Meander over to the other room. Yeah, God forbid you get pulled over, and then the cop says you, that's an awful lot of spunk. Yeah. Well, they could say that. I'm willing to take that charge. But my whole thing is just like, why?

Like, twin pet. Okay. Why do you even need Loop? Like, to me, like, I fuck a bunch and I don't use Loop. Loub has never been a thing. You're not an ass guy. Okay, that's fair. When we do A&A only use Loub, yeah, you're right, here.

He's a ass guy. He's a transmission guy. He's a bussy guy. You don't need that. All you need is spit. But here's the problem. Here's the problem. You're doing drugs?

You probably don't. have too much spit. Not the good spit. You could be chugging water when you're on Molly and it still doesn't feel like you have spit in your mouth. That's true. It comes out like this. Yeah,

it's still. That's been like the biggest casualty besides the ability to eat apples since I got my teeth fixed. I can't spit the same. Really? Yeah, for some reason, I don't know why. So like it's been.

I mean, as an adult, how much do you really have to spit? Yeah, that's like pause. Where do you spit? Situations like the aforementioned, you know what I mean? You don't think you could do a good hawk to it if you wanted to? But you still be on the drugs, though, that dry you. That too.

You like a cotton mouth for. Even Siggs. Yeah, Sigs as well. Sigs dry your mouth out. Yeah. There used to be days where I would drink three gallons of water in a day. So there's Pepsi. And it would be when we were doing the live streams where we're listening to people's donations,

and we would just be smoking back to back to back blunts. Those were the days where I would drink three gallons of water in a day. Yeah. I wish I could. My body, like, doesn't have the capacity. to consume that much. I don't drink water by the gallon anymore.

I just refill these. Bro, it's just hard for me to drink that much water, fool. Bro, you gotta drink, what you weigh, like, two hundred. You gotta drink a hundred ounces of water a day,

at least. A hundred ounces, I've been chugging shit. I've been drinking 80 ounces of water every day, 85. Yeah, no, I need to drink more water.

It's like a big thing. I don't know why. I just hate the way it tastes. You'll start glowing. You hit water? Mm-hmm. I fucked my bitch for five minutes. today.

I ain't fucked for five minutes and like a two minute that'd be like Oh so you're saying five was impressive I had to do a live stream yesterday

we did the first ever plug talk live stream just me and Lena and it was like I wasn't even allowed to come on the camera until she got $600 donated

and then once I came on camera she's basically like sucking me off and banging me and I'm not allowed to nut until we got to a thousand so that takes a lot of

restraining Wait, no, I wasn't allowed to fuck until we got to a thousand. And then once we started doing it, it's like, we didn't have, like, an additional goal for me to nut, but it's a weird feeling. She's banging me, and I'm, like, hearing the sound for when the donations come in, and I'm having to, like, squint and, like, look at it and be like, oh, $10. What do you mean by she banging you? Yeah, that's not crazy.

What the fuck is you saying? You really need clarifications on that? Yes. Shoes on top of me, having sex with me. Oh, fucking dummy. What the fuck is wrong with you? I'm thinking. You don't think I would include that detail?

Well, I mean, I would assume. It's just like, but you said that you couldn't start fucking until you reach a thousand. Yeah. So she's banging me. Unfortunately. Oh, so she can, okay. A woman can bang a man. I've never heard that term.

What? Ride a dick. You don't think girls are talking about like, yeah, banged them. I mean, yeah, maybe. And their friends are like, ooh, did you peg him? He banged me is what they probably said. Or we fucked her. I fucked her.

Why does the guy always have to be the oppressor? She was on top of me. I'm just sitting there. He's bouncing up and down on my big. Well, that's how you last for the longest. You got to let her just do her thing. Sometimes. Look at the sky, like.

No, but. Doing math equations, six times seven and four years. Like, you did. No, but, okay. There are certain positions, I promise I won't dwell on this too long, but there are certain positions

where I feel like I can control my load really good. Missionary, that's a great one. Right. Bent over doggy, that's a harder one. It feels tighter. They do. Her riding you reverse cowgirl. That feels like it's going to make me not too fast.

Yeah. I agree. I think is the ass. That's just right there. It's the visual. And because they get going crazy. When I'm on top, when I'm doing missionary, I can move in and out as fast or as slow as I want so I can control.

As soon as they're on top, they start going, ah, ah, ha, ha, ha, ha. It's a rapid point. But look, when they're doing that, it's all about the ass cheek clenchy. You can't clench your ass cheeks, why you have there. You got to just relax. So that's advanced. And then you got the motor and just relax. Because as soon as you clench the ass cheeks back up,

you got a shooter Brinks big on the G spot you know the male G spot He's referred to it several times I wasn't talking about inside the asshole No you know what I do When you're coming You're clinching your ass cheeks

No matter who wants to say they're not clinchie ass cheeks You put a motherfucker fucking policy In there, nigga it should go pop You know what works for me You tighten your legs up you flex your legs because that's making blood go into other muscles in your body. So if I flex my fucking leg and really like bodybuilders show, like, that feels like that might help a little bit.

You're going to last longer. Damn, that's like, okay, that's a crease here. Because I've heard so many things I don't agree with, like flick it, whack it. Sometimes I'm just not a porn star, so. No, in the real world, you don't have to care. Whenever I nut, it's like, hey, the faster for me, the better, bitch. and you deal with that. I didn't come.

That's why it was the funniest shit in the world when Fat Boys Baby Mama like Kwani, OTC7 Quani said something about the fact that he banged Fat Boys Baby Mama and she said

Everybody, that's like Blasey's bitch. But then she said you only fuck me for like two minutes. Okay. It still counts. It does not matter. Your dickless. That doesn't make it anything less.

Like, what do you be? Like, Shai boy, you. My only thing, though, I just had an aversion to the phrasing of she was banging me. I literally didn't understand but riding. Okay. We've all been banged before.

Kind of vanilla. You're a vanilla guy. You're not from this world. No, I'm totally, like, have no king-shaming in my soul, whatever anyone's into. Can you promise me something? Yeah. When it comes out that you get pegged by your girl, can we do a whole episode where we just really celebrate?

Like, I want to get you a pegging cake. Yeah, but sure. I want to really, like, I don't want to just breeze by, act like, that's luscious thing. We're not going to drop Tedd's. I want to really celebrate. A cucumber medal and all that. Oh, yeah.

We play an emoji. We want to know the size of the gauges. We are dressing up as Alan Peg Bundy for Halloween in the podcasts. Yeah. You've been paid. We've been going back and forth a lot about what our Halloween costumes are going to be as well. Have you arrived at any conclusions yet? We're going like pretty basic stuff.

Nothing too crazy, I don't think, yet. Yeah. I'm going to be at them. I decided I wasn't going to do Chapel Rhone. I'm going to be following the ballhead at him. You want to see? Oh, yeah? You?

Trevor got the ups on you already. That's what I'm saying. Bring it back. If you put like a whole like white mask with the task on, like you tell you that would be amazing. I was thinking about doing something like this, but then Remo told me he thinks that I should like lay low with the gay shit. That's a. Chaperon, you guys don't know about her? She's amazing.

I think you're ready for. The chick you've been talking about this. Yeah, yeah. She's fire. Amazing, amazing music. But what's like the costume? I've been listening to touch the music. She kind of is like border.

Like she's a woman, like a regular woman, but she does like drag, quote unquote. She wears like crazy makeup and like her hair's all fucking weird. She has all these like signature outfits and shit. So it's like if I did a chaparone look, it would make like a very small chunk of Twitter that I don't engage with at all ever. Very amused. And all of my hip-hop fans would just think like, oh. Adam's being gay. He looks like a burlesque prostitute.

Cipolis in the 1920s. Listen, I'm still hearing about the fucking gay, the April Fool's prank. That was like six fucking months ago, and I'm still hearing about it all the time. Or you can stuff your pants and, like, put your leg up like a midget and be white. It's a big booty short.

I'm trying to avoid any costume that really, like, relies on blackface. Yeah. Yeah. Ah, you're right. How could I be whack without that? Like, I've thought like a lot of good costumes where it's like, oh, me and Lennon should be Gucci men and Keisha. You could totally.

But it's like, how am I going to ever look like Gucci if I don't? You totally could be somebody that's not your race with the same gun. That would be. I can't give them that. No, but like I did M&M. Yeah. It was perfect. All I had to do was cover my tattoos.

But even that was like a lot. But it's like there's so many. Like, I've seen three dudes, like three white dudes who dressed up as, like, the Migos back in the day. And they killed it. But with the Migos, you got the fucking dreadlocks. Yeah. With Gucci. I don't know a white dude wearing, like, a dread costume is a bit much as well, honestly.

That's like, that's like borderline blackface-ish. No. No, I don't know. That's great. You're just living in fear. But, uh, terrified. I'm living in terror. They wear the dread ads all the time.

Yeah. It's a little weird. You don't remember, uh, rock? It's a little weird. Remember Ross Trent? This is real hipsters. You know what I'm talking about? Ross Trent, that was a fucking

God, I wish I could just play this song right now. Oh shit. Oh my God, I should just play it. Yeah. Basically, it's just like a white guy. I was convinced that he's part of the Rastafarian culture. But he's doing it without any accent.

Just normally like the white fools that do that will appropriate the pet's wild. So the gag here is like, no accents, but using the same lyrics. Everybody should go watch this in full. Twelve years ago. I feel like I found out about this, like, way longer than that ago.

But Adam should be Yuri for Halloween. I don't know if Leonard could take the verbal abuse. I feel like that's a big part of that costume. You have to be fucking your girl's day up the whole time. Just go dress as a mugshot? Yeah. Anyway, Okay,

1,000 bottles of lube. I feel we deserve to at least be a little bit honest about this. Did he getting arrested is a fucking gigantic deal. It's a huge deal. It's arguably the greatest fall from grace in the history of hip-hop.

For sure. A lot of people die. A lot of people fall off. But as far as somebody who's like, not at the height of his career, but like somebody who's universally respected. rich as fuck. Like nobody was really like disson and publicly or anything like that.

And now we're at the stage where he's basically on par with R. Kelly, except for the fact that we don't really know the full true depths of what he might have been doing. He's way bigger than R. Kelly. No, no, no. In terms of his offenses. But to be fair, the depths of depravity that R. Kelly went to are way crazier than anything that Ditties being. All I'm saying is that by the end of this, we might have found out about enough stuff that we'd be willing to put him in league with R. Kells. I don't know.

And Kelle. The kidnapping is something that I wonder if all of that falls up under Cassie. I think they have a shitload of different people that are alleging different acts, including, isn't like Kid Cutty going to be part of this where him getting

his car blown up? Like there's so many things that just take place and then once the feds get involved and start to really wrap this thing up, you're like, oh yeah, that is a crime. What about the alleged? No, yeah, that is a crime. Yeah, yeah. Not that this is like one of the more salacious ones, but it is hilarious. What about the

alleged verbal abuse of J. Cole 13 years ago? Right. What did you say to him, though? It was something to do with the Kendrick's control verse that really had... But I thought he beat his ass or something. That's the case? Yeah. Yeah, okay, here we go.

Did he allegedly threatened to cut Jay Cole's throat years ago over Kendrick Lamar? Let's just get the actual quote. This is great. Oh, and this is a quote coming from punch of TDE, which is, you know, you would not really expect him to be lying about this. So it doesn't seem like we'd really have a reason to lie about it. The homies just did this song, right? Pissed a gang of people off. He's talking about Kendrick and Big Sean.

Everybody was mad at it. When the song came out, he was overseas. Then he came back to the States. First place we stopped him was New York City. And the first thing we do is say, let's go to the club because we want to check the temperature. See what everybody was on. This is what I need to do. I need to go check the temperature.

L.A. stuff. We get to the club. One of the homies approached us and was talking about this particular record. So we're going back and forth. Oh, it's not personal. It's just this and that. It's cool. Whatever.

Whatever. Another one of the homies walks up. He looks drunk and said, yeah, y'all N-words, need to go back and forth and keep it on wax or whatever. So the two dudes who approached us, they got into a little heated back and forth, a little argument with each other. What we didn't know is they had gotten into an argument before we got there. Punch then explained how he and his TD cohorts entered the club's VIP section. There, they came in contact with a slew of a slewis. celebrities referring to the amount of star power as the front row of the Grammys.

He then explained how did he continued his vitro, leading him to threaten to slice Jay Cole's throat. The homies that got into it with the other one, he's sitting two steps down from me on the couch. Then he came back at him, the one who got into altercation earlier. He was like, if you ever say what you said to me earlier, I'll, and then he grabbed the bottle from the table and said, what are you going to do? Hit me on the head with a bottle? And he said, Nah, I'm going to break it on the table And I'm going to cut your throat It was getting tense

So the N-word standing on the ground reached up and tried to grab dude by the neck So the dude reached around and fired on him And then they both fell off the table Knocking all the drinks over It's a scuffle now A huge scuffle That's crazy

Yeah Pretty hilarious at his Jake Cole though I mean I feel like Puffy Honestly is just the definition of a dude Who Just achieved a certain level of success young and really took every possible opportunity to be a total dickhead piece of shit allowed himself to indulge in every bad behavior that he could possibly

imagine and it's all because he believed that through his success that he was so special that he was basically exempt from any sort of consequences that could come from not even like the criminal elements, but just being a huge dickhead to so many people. And I feel like this is all just this big, grand return to reality for him of, listen, this is what happens when you're just a total cunt to everybody that you come into contact with, which I feel like if anything, my time in the spotlight has really taught me the opposite, where it's like everybody, like, I can think of YouTubers who on my rise to wherever I'm at were fucking nobody's. And in the situations I'm thinking of, it's not like I was ever rude or mean to them or anything like that.

If anything, this platform really like being accommodating towards becoming talent, I felt like I was actually pretty cool with them. And now when I look at those people, they're so much bigger than me. And I'm like, damn, I'm thankful for every single time that I was humble and respectful towards somebody. And I really regret any time that I acted big-headed somebody in a similar situation. Because everybody that you see as they're going up to the top, you're going to see. them when you're flattening out in popularity or nose diving in popularity, etc. You know, it's just like, I feel like I've learned the total opposite of the lesson that Puff has learned. I think it's so important to stay humble and stay respectful to people.

And I feel like Puff really kind of went with the opposite. Well, I mean, the thing, when you talk about a fall from grace and public opinion, what I see with Puff, and this is coming from someone that's a huge bad boy fan, like obsessed with their catalog from day one. It's a dude whose entire career has been marred in controversy. From day one people were looking bad upon him.

This is a dude that was in the midst of the whole controversy that led to two of the greatest of all time passing. Five or six of his artists have passed away. That's crazy and in other selves. That is very, very true.

But at what point during that, at what At what point during that, did it seem like Puff's career was in jeopardy? To me, never, never, never, but always. No, no. We knew this. When? Oh, my God.

Maybe the past couple years there's been rumors about it. Like past 10? But seriously, in the last 10 years, you feel like the conversation, because I, we never had that conversation on this podcast. They never joked about them ditty parties around you ever, like, in like the last year, maybe, two years? But not like too seriously. Okay, we could search no jumper.

We could search Vlad. You're going to find very few clips of people talking about puppy as if he was some kind of sex person. And it's that been the term for freaky-ass shit. Like, man, you know, that dude-ish. But not for that long. No, I'm talking. Yes. Yeah, for a while.

Like, oh, you have a party. He's like Diddy over there? Like, a motherfucker been saying that shit. Like, let me give you a point of reference. Remember the when Meek and Drake were going back and forth during the back-to-back thing and Meek's like whole haymaker angle that he was using on Drake was, Did he pissed on you? Like literally,

No, but someone did piss on Drake and it wasn't Diddy. Right, but the fact that that was even alluded to should show you what the climate is, you know what I mean? I don't even think they said that. If they did, they were just confused because it's not like, it literally happened with somebody else. Yeah, but I'm just, I mean, I always... I'm going back into the old line and he pissed on him, that's pretty freaky.

I'm going back into the oldest. That's even a frame of reference. The oldest no jumper clips, there's nothing. I'm searching the word Diddy. There's nothing. That might be the no jumper world. That's what I'm saying. But we are desperately looking for bullshit

to talk about people on a daily basis. But it's always been a joke amongst, I guess industry people that, I guess it's like Atlanta, the streets, LA, like places where he's lived, where people just know these parties exist. No, bulls always knew Ginny was weird back then. But not that way.

But not that way. Not that weird. And it wasn't a part of the public dialogue about him to the same extent. I'm going to be right. He was real not that weird. When Joe Budden called me to his hotel room in 2018, pause, and I walk into the room. I've told this story before, but I walk into the room and there's some reality show, talent show thing on the TV, right? And Diddy is one of the judges. And I don't watch fucking TV at all, so I have no idea. But immediately Joe says something off the cuff about, look at his ass sitting there all mollied up. And in that moment, I'm like, oh, shit. Like, I took the context clues and everything. I'm like, oh, fuck. Buff does Molly. He's one of them.

That's cool. Didn't know that. Just me as a fan. At that time, I had no idea that this was the crazy sex party guy. Never mind the crazy sex trafficker guy. Yeah. Whoa. But we didn't know.

That's what I'm saying. I still don't believe that he's a sex trafficker. I mean, a sex party or yes. I feel like trafficker and all that. I just don't know what trafficking me. It depends on how you define that. What they say is that he not only would be, like, getting a large number of women to come to the party,

but then he would basically, like, intentionally get them fucking loaded off hell of drugs. Dude, they were saying that essentially the allegation, correct me if I'm wrong, was they were trying to be like he was having young Miami and them and, like, people like that, like, go get bitches and bring them, and then they would get loaded. You take the drugs at your own, like, discretion. Like, you're getting a drug.

Nobody's like, snort the line. Yeah, they are. No, they go and they put it in your drink and then you just consume it. No, they were putting in their drinks? I would assume. No, they're getting high together, man. Okay, there's that. What's the effect of two-see?

But most girls will, like, take a moderate amount of drugs. It sounds like from this thing that it was like rooms full of chicks passed out. Now, granted, that might be them just hyping it up, making it sound crazy. That sounds like salacious. Listen, they do little amounts of drugs because they don't have the money. As soon as they go, that's like a cokehead bitch walking in and there's two ounces on the table. Today is the day that I OD. And I've seen that over and over where it would be like a girl I know, regular chick,

and then she starts getting invited to clubs. She starts being in the bottle service. A couple months later, she's like in rehab or she's like a full-blown cocaine. Because most people on their day-to-day lives are doing as much drugs as they can afford. most people if they all of a sudden starting making an extra $10,000 a year would probably spend it on lean and well I'm talking about like people that were around

but a lot of them would spend a huge percentage of it on drugs let's be real way more weed getting some good lean more perks and just the partying in general whatever it comes with that but so then when you find yourself in an environment where you have infinite drugs available to you

what do you do? When you're probably going to do a lot of drugs exactly but the I don't blame me you guys. My whole thing is that this wasn't really a shock. I mean, like, let's go over the names. Craig Mack, Biggie Smalls, Black Rob,

Shine, not getting killed, but getting, you feel me, whatever he had to go through, getting deported for his life from But I still feel like the argument that? What does that have to do with? Yeah, what, right? Bad luck. He didn't make G. Depp go kill the guy. Okay, so you don't think the fact that,

the fact that there's this aura surrounding him of dysfunction that's how come there's more people on bad boy that are dead than death row think about that but death row is like clearly like a more the vast majority of people in the situation you're talking about though

it's like completely implausible that puffy would have got them killed I'm not saying puppy got any of them killed but so we're indicting people for their aura now but the circumstances these people's lives take or it took which you could see the dysfunction and stemming to, you know,

that there's a lot to put on him, I feel you. But at the same time, like, this isn't a guy that has, like, a fucking good reputation that was doing solid business. But you know how it is. You sign artists and the ones who perform, you develop a lifelong bond with them. And the ones who fall off.

You cut ties. Bon voyage. It's a fucking business. It's not a fucking friendship. It's not your homeboy from kindergarten. But that's the problem, though, is like, okay, you get drafted to play for the Lakers. You play for the Lakers for like five years. Five years and a long time. Half a decade.

You're going to feel like your best friends with the coaches, the other players, the owner is going to feel like he's got your bag. They know your family. They've been around your kids. It's all that shit. Guess what? You fucking tear your Achilles tendon. You're done.

And they're going to get somebody else, and that's just how it goes. True. But at the same time. Hey, you can still train at our facilities. Right. For an hour a week. Yeah. So, Brick, let me ask you, who would you feel like?

like are the, as far as like artists or mentors are like the biggest people that in your career when you was first getting on and all that, like, peewee, thug, people like that, like, you know what I mean? I feel like you were around some people that gave you some game and taught you about the industry and how to move and maneuver situations. Hasn't where even if you wasn't around them, you still knew a lot more than, and it's because the people have more integrity. I wish I could say that the people that were around me were junkies and they didn't know it.

And they just wanted me around for activists. And I got built all my relationships off that. Like, nobody ever took their time out to give me game about the industry, even when I asked. Well, you know, but realistically, someone like Thug was figuring it out for himself. He was in three record deals, four record deals by the time you were hanging out around. I'm not talking about slimy now. Right.

I'm talking about, like, the older people that you would expect. They were junkies, too. I get that. But I feel like you had, like, a lot of. lot better. And not just you, but your entire generation, you feel me, a fool is coming up, had a lot more mentorship. And there's like, you know what I mean? And you can see just like, there's a certain level of negligence when there's labels that are exploiting artists and praying on the dreams of people to try to capitalize off of it, as opposed to the, you know, the,

the Jay Princes or the, you know what I mean, the masterpiece. And there's several examples of fools that actually, let me help you out, show you out, give you some game. even if we stopped working with each other. So you're saying is Diddy's karma. I'm saying, yeah, Diddy's been a dick from day one. Free the locks. Free the locks.

If you're a label, if you run a label or if you sign an artist, you don't have to be a dick for it to all fall apart. No matter what, you could be the best fucking dude in the world. If we were to really break it down, how many artists attempted to build careers through QC? A fuckload that we have not heard of in many, many years

and it doesn't surprise any of us. And if anything, the fact that they have really like a handful of artists that have become very successful under them, it makes us all look at them like, holy shit, they know what they're doing. Correct. The music business is a thing where if you have like a 10% success rate and you've signed like hundreds of artists throughout your career, if you have 10% success rate, you might be looked at as incredibly successful. Yeah, but Adam, I'm like not, I can name the 90% of bad boy artists that didn't make it.

I'm talking about the ones that actually had a modicum of success. Like I'm not talking about like the white game. G-Dep. I had a huge hair record. Special delivery was a huge. That's what invented the Harlem Shake. You're right. And G. Depp's an incredible rapper, too. So I literally was mentioning the people that are actually- that's what invented the Harlem Shake or that was what shows the world. That's the song that set off the introduction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to be honest, I'm not sure if the Harlem Shake predated that dance or that record or not, but that was to show the Harlem Shake song, 100%. Not the Bauer fucking

You remember that? Yeah, of course That was cool Yeah, that was cool Power, that was a moment They had another one It was Didis But that, yeah, no There's a Diddy Bop

You feel of me No, didn't they have Harlem Shake song, no That was special But the special delivery Yeah, that was it This one for my nigga Yeah, special delivery

Oh shit Ghostface Killer on the remix Come on bro Amongst like Eight other prominent New York rappers at the time What happened to that? Hip-Hop just like

unanimously decided that we just didn't need a 10-minute remix of a hot song with nine other rappers on it. Yeah, because now everyone just gets the instrumental and does their little YouTube remix of it. But I feel like even that has become incredibly uncommon. Everyone rapping on that new Kendrick beat. But like everybody is like a handful of people. It's not like, you know, people of prominence. It used to be like, remember that Wayne era? It was just like literally taking everybody's beat.

There was a lot of songs that I thought were Wayne songs. There was like a black eyed piece. I got a feeling. Wayne remixed that. I downloaded it off a hip-hop blog, and I was like, whoa, this is a fucking smash hit. I Google the lyrics. I'm like, oh, God damn, it's already a smash hit. That's like, why he's rapping on it.

Okay. I can see that. I saw Black IPs open up for Buster rhymes after Bust's second album. What year? 1997. Okay, you'd be, because 1998 Warp Tour, I saw Black IPs play before they had Fergie. Full-Live band. Yeah, yeah.

And it's like when like joints and jams, that's the joint. People were giving them joints, like, from the crowd. And I thought that was shocking. Like, whoa, you could just do that. I had no idea that you could just, like, give drugs to a performer. And then you started hanging. All the fan weed is trash. Fan weed.

They know that shit on the motherfucking stage. It's like, oh, yeah, we know that's backyard, but you can get that to the light, man. I mean, I feel like weed in general back then was ass. You ever see, like, the pictures of what Bob Marley was smoking? Oh, yeah. Get the hell out of here. That's that Bam Bam, Bam Bigelow Brown right there.

Go to Jamaica right now. It still probably looks. Oh, I still like that. Yeah. I guarantee I've smoked way worse weed than you guys. For sure. Argentina. Oh.

Brick weed. Nah. Not like you. I didn't smoke some bullshit. I didn't smoke some bullshit. Listen. Somewhere in Europe, I've got that seed pack. Seed and dust. Don't show the screen because somehow I feel like this could get us in trouble, but

if I search brickweed. I know what brickweed is. Like, really, like. But the brown one, though, that looks good. That's green. You can show this. It looked like falafel. It's like fruity pebbles. It's more like the rapist.

Why does it look like I spent two? extra dollars to get this on the side of my halal guys plate. Also, why did I order halal guys in Atlanta? You did? Yeah. And you know what was fucked up? I didn't know that you had to like tell them how much sauce you wanted. So I got it with like no sauce.

It's all about the white sauce. I've never had to say like extra sauce. But I figured the default was some white sauce. Pause. It turns out you have to specify the pack. Who on earth wants this without the sauce? Yeah. What the fuck is that?

Do you all notice that? Like, things in L.A. are significantly quicker as far as, like, when you order and, like, everything. To me, I notice that when I go to Atlanta and different places in the South, like, things... Because there's black people working back in the... What the fuck here? Well, so, okay. I'm ordering postmates, and it's taking 40 minutes to come, and then I'm realizing, like, oh, like,

this is just suggesting that I order food from things that are, like, far away, because my postmates is not going to suggest anything that's a fucking hour away. Well, like, I wound up, the same thing happened to me, and I ordered some soul food in Atlanta, and it came to my hotel, and I was super pissed off, because it was taking

dumb-ass lung, and I'm talking hellishy to my boy and the phone, like, yeah, these mark-ass fools, da-da-da-da, taking stupid long to get here, and right as I said that, dude, was like, knock-knock. He, like, heard my whole conversation. I'm like, thanks for the food, bro. And probably puts the makes your speech.

He said, hactua, huh? Yeah. Hawk-toe. It was crazy. Hawk Twa. Yeah, you said it. You said it like you just read about it and you had to actually heard her say it. I've heard her say it.

I don't feel the need you repeat. I have to do a quick check. Hold on. Hawk to a podcast. I heard it's out. Yeah, I've heard it as well. Oh,

uh. Oh, she's on episode two. She's like a pretty down-to-earth chick dog, give it to her. Like, I'm not mad at Shorty. I just, that's not really where I was going to go with it.

I was, like, I was just going to go with like, fuck this bitch. Yeah, for real. She had Whitney Cummings, who is fairly annoying as her first guest. We don't have the plug-in that will show us how many dislikes it has, but I'm willing to bet that there's a lot. Let's read some top comments.

I was a miserable alcoholic until I discovered the talk to a podcast. Wait, this is like people really enthusiastically into it. What the fuck are these? Every single comment is just claiming that they have some horrible injury or illness and that, yeah, look. Yeah, what the fuck is that? What kind of bot is this? Yeah, clearly a meme. I gotta tell T. Real about these bots.

I'm dying of cancer, and this podcast is the only thing keeping me sane. Currently fighting on the front lines in Ukraine, and everyone has called a truce to watch episode one of the talk to a podcast. Like, where do people come together to decide with this theme being what they wanted to do in the chat? Miss my child's birth for this. What the fuck? Had the revolver in my mouth ready to pull the trigger. Like, thankfully, this podcast started playing.

And say my flag. That's every comment. This is like the same thing. When the Island Boys' first video came out and all the comments for like, I was born with muscular dystrophy and I couldn't walk. But then when this song came on, I got up to turn the TV off. 44,000 subscribers, almost a million views. It's body. But look at how the podcast, look at how these numbers are right falling off so much.

This has been out for seven hours. 50K. But it's just her talking to her grandma. 50K with 25. 100 likes. And look, look it. She's already got the, she's got the fucking, uh, the,

but that's, for a podcast that, like, probably has way more dislikes. Uh, yeah. It wouldn't surprise me that much. But this is, this podcast is owned by Jake Paul's brand, Better, B-E-T-R.

It's like some betting website. Yeah. I haven't really gotten a chance to dig into this, but you know it's got to be so bad. She is, like, I've seen her interview to grip of times, and she's, like,

way more down to earth than I would expect, and it has, like, a pretty chill, personality, but really my whole thing is I don't really think she know how to suck dick good. Wait, wait, wait. Her grandma doesn't show up in this until 22 minutes into it. It's a 31 minute podcast, and so the first two-thirds are without grandma, and then grandma comes in, and it looks like grandma was there for about five minutes.

Total. And now she's fucking a horse. Cool. Yo. What the fuck? She looks like she's off a parker too She probably didn't even know about the I looked at my Ops Cupp

It looked like Listerine You think she's in the perk world I doubt it bro The park world is everywhere You can't say D you think Can we get her Well she already said something like anti-Trump But I feel like that was the end

Is she from Florida? She's from Nashville or some of shit right Yeah I gotta be whiskey Everybody at the heart You guys talk about something I gotta figure out this title Yeah

Again, I'm gonna go back to her I She got on by talking about Giving Dome and I feel like If we want to see this Arc go 360 we got to see her You gotta see the top skills But she's are

She's trying to erase that part of her life You can't do that No no no No Yeah She's trying to be like a non-sexual entertainer Which pisses me off because all right Baby Alien blows up

Becomes an only fan's guy there's nothing logical about a midget doing porn Hawk to a girl blows up She's like no, I'm gonna help the homeless I'm gonna talk to my grandma She can help a lot of homeless She's just like completely pivoted out of anything Remotely sexual but I get the same vibe

Like she doesn't seem like the most sexual person But I do believe that she like nine beers in Probably gives a mean messy blowjub Her even identifying that sound Yeah yeah yeah stood out to me as like Oh okay you probably are a three broke go. She likes to do all that shit. Yeah. I got to

see it to believe it. I'm not convinced. I feel that. But, all right, I have a theory. Men, we have bigger hands, bigger feet, we're taller, bigger heads, bigger mouths. I feel like we're probably way better at giving head.

What the fuck? That's where you was going with that? I was in a conversation with a bunch of girls the other day, and I said, I bet that if I dedicated my life to sucking dick like you have, I could probably be better than you. Bigger hands results into like your dick disappearing faster. No two-handers for man.

I believe that... And the girl can't two-hand you. She's a transmission. Fuck the hand. The size of a girl's throat and mouth is the deciding factor in how good she is at head. And that's why you have genetic freaks like Carmen Karma, who you spin her. her mouth or Adriana Chetich, et cetera, who you're banging their mouth slash throat and you're like, what the fuck?

It's, it's, granted, they probably put in work, but it's a genetic thing. It's like they have a huge throat. The tighter the throat might be better, though, Adam. No, no, no, no. I think you ever get your dick sucked by a girl with a tiny mouth? Terrible. It's the worst. Yeah, it's not it.

It inevitably ends with teeth scraping. You can barely get your dick in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I've been, I've came home. bleeding before. And that's regular dead. Like a guy with a 10 inch dick, they're not getting good head from damn there anybody unless they go to a throat goat.

So it's an interesting theory and I'm you know, I haven't done the market research either way nor will I to disprove it, but I will refer to a, remember when Vice was a magazine back in the day? There's a Vice magazine article and it was talking about, it was like they did this thing where there was a glory hole

and they had dudes put their dick through a glory hole and they would get head from like a chick, a dude, and a trans, and they would have to... Vice did this? Yeah, Vice did this. Holy shit. That's a bull. That's a bull. Think about that versus, like, what Vice is doing right now.

Yeah, they were like Vice was actually doing... Yeah, I don't remember that exact thing. Just imagine somebody telling you that is... I've been... I'm starving. So the... His meal time occurs directly during this podcast. Every week.

Listen, bro. I was over here dying. That's what I had to exist. So the findings apparently were that the woman, the woman was like considerably more gentle. Okay. So. I believe that.

And that's the problem. That's why I know I'm way better at giving head. Well, I'm not gentle. I don't have the gentle gene. I'm not a gentle giant. Oh, my friend. Yes, but like, I don't know. Like, sometimes, sometimes.

Just don't shoot near the mic. They hate that. Sometimes a little bit of gentle. can work. You feel me? Like, it's... Not the way I'm giving it. I'm giving it up for real. Hocktua. So you're giving a chat check a run for a money.

You, you're the... On the dead homies. Sheesh. Hey, someone's got here. Do you have to, like, sign up, like, all right, I'm open to all three of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they knew what it was. So they go into it, and they had to essentially be like, blowjob number one felt like this.

Blow job number two felt, you know what I'm saying, type shit. and they seem to overwhelmingly favor the woman. I'm into that. No, I'm saying before the blowjobs occurred, do they let you know that you about? Well, yeah, I'm pretty sure they were like, yeah, what was going to be a dude? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It wasn't no funny shit. As long as they tell you first. I don't know, to me, like, I couldn't get into a gloria period, you get so much of getting headed from a bitch is like looking at her doing it. That's how I felt. I learned that lesson when I got ahead from four girls

while I was wearing the rabbit head. The bunny, the Easter bunny? I couldn't see anything. Four girls, though, might kind of, like, balance it out a little. It was the fact that I knew it was happening made it still kind of exciting. But ultimately, it was very weird to not be able to witness it. I should have given you a periscope or something. Or just drill a hole in the bottom of the bunny head.

Did you guys hear Kendrick's new song? Yes. Give me some thoughts. Holy shit. That's a McFish? Yeah, for like... Oh, you really hate us. There's so much sauce on that.

I was really disappointed with Kendrick's song Why? I said it was but yeah yeah yeah Oh it was but yeah yeah yeah yeah I said it was butt. What makes you feel like it's but? Because me and whack we got into a big ass argument about the song because my point was basically like if Kendrick's going to return to putting out music like this

we are going to return to the era that we were in for like 10 years prior to this where Kendrick was putting out some of the most lyrical, the most conceptual, the most high-minded music in the culture, and within the streets of L.A., from my perspective,

and I know I'm not the only person who should be issuing opinions about this, but from my perspective, nobody was listening to his last, like, fucking four albums in L.A. Outside? No. No. No. Now, I guarantee

there's people that I went to high school with, 40-year-old white people who listen to Kendrick all the time. I completely believe that, but as far as the streets, it's been a cold 10 years for Kendrick. And he chose that decision. For sure. Am I wrong? For sure. He chose the route that he took.

It was either like the underground pop star route or keep on feeding the streets. And he took that turn. And I think that he was like, hey, these white kids buy tickets. They buy albums. They support. I'm going to keep on drilling for. of these fans, but we never seen this not like us, Kendrick. Like, at least

bro, feed us a couple more before you go back. There's not a bigger fan of Kendrick Lamar than my 57 year old brother who's the white CEO of Indeed, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's who loves Kendrick. You know what I mean? Like, that's

the target. It's essentially like... Eminem crowd. Accentuating your point. My brother don't even listen to rap like that. You know what I mean? Like, that's who like, it's the people that think Hamilton is the greatest conceptual project to be released in decades.

But here's the thing, bro. We gave up. I gave up on Kendrick as far as me actually listening to him a long-ass time ago. As a concept, he's incredible. He's vital. I love the fact that he exists. I'm happy for every success that he achieves. I stopped listening.

I want to say, after a good kid, Mad City, maybe to Pimp a Butterfly was the end of me really trying to slap Kendrick like that. There's no black hippie album, I was smooth. It's like, here goes my childish Gambino, Kendrick Lamar, and fucking

what's the other thing? Lutee Gascow. Late at night, yeah, there goes my playing. Yo, real talk? White girls come over. Kendrick had about 10 years where exactly Childish Gambino. I know he's super popular. I know a lot of white people who listen to him. I do not know any black people who listen to him. I have never, ever

heard a black person talk about Childish Gambino. I'm just going to be totally real with you. Kendrick, same shit, it just does not knock in the streets. And there is a part of me that throughout this whole saga has really kind of wanted to like revisit Kendrick's catalog and listen to it. But I'm going to be real. Like those, all those last albums is like

such a snore fest that I can't even bring myself to actually like spend an hour on it. Well, I think as far as Childish Gambino, the only song that I've seen Black People enjoy is that Red Bone song, which is an amazing record. I don't even know about that. That's stay woke.

You feel like? People like that song. a lot, but other than that, not really. But Kendrick, Section 80, overly dedicated, Good Kid Mad, City. I love you. This is all before the last 10 years. This is 2012, 1110. There was a time period in my life where I was way more outside than I am now.

In Long Beach, when Good Kid Mad City came out, the city was on fire. That was what people were listening to. I was at the skate parks. I was at the bars. I was at the beach. Everybody listened to that shit. It was like, you didn't even fucking exist unless you're listening to that album. 1,000%? That was the end of that.

Like, after that, you get to Pimp a Butterfly. I see people talk about it on Twitter. But in terms of it being the soundtrack to the street life in L.A., hell, fuck him out. Just like the documentary. That pretty much, pretty much. You know, like after that, yeah, there's a few records. And it was like that second album.

And then it was just like, but game didn't ever sell out to that crowd. I'm just saying it was like that. So you think Kendrick's a sellout? No. Let's work on that narrative. That's an odd way to put it for sure. No, but he, okay.

He stopped making music that would appeal to this younger demographic and instead went in a completely different direction. And at times, that most recent album, he had like one song with Kodak that really stood out to me. I was like, okay, this is a jam. That was my favorite song on the album. For sure. I think that with Kendrick, it's like, in his head, he believes he's so high-minded that he can't possibly grovel for the attention of the working man by making music that fits into the established hip-hop troughs. He wants to elevate the art form and be this extremely insightful persona in

hip-hop. He wants to basically take his fame and his stardom and do something completely different with it. And to be fair, he's mega-beloved as a result. And even by these same communities that I'm saying, don't listen to him. I definitely think they respect him. Yeah, absolutely. I just don't think that they listen to his music at all. Whereas on the other hand, you have Drake who makes music that's infinitely more listenable. That Kendrick's song is produced by Alchemist, right? Shouts to Alchemist, great producer, to go from the number one single to right after that, doing like a reverting back to your older vibe of straight coffee house.

He might have got death threats. It's just like... His core fan base, like, drop another not like us, killing you at the next show. What? Like, it's core fan base that once they hear the- jock that shit. They were so happy not like us,

because that validated everything they've been pushing this whole time. No, they weren't. They hella jock that shit. A lot of candy fans, like, oh, my God, it's too main. If you're a Kenney fan, you were probably happy that he went that direction regardless, because it symbolized that he won the beef. Yeah.

But you would have been foolish to think that he was going to stick with that sound going forward just because that sound was like too it goes against everything that he kind of put out there prior I mean like look his the preview that he had on the beginning of the video

the Not Like Us video why didn't you drop that shit That shit sounded hard Like oh yeah what's up with that We all wanted to hear that Everybody wanted that That made you feel like oh shit He's gonna put out a banging ass album

Yeah if that's gonna be another song In this album then we got two hard songs Which I'm already sick of fucking Not Like Us And I don't need this guy, like, preaching to, like, oh, it's not cool to party. Like, all right, dude. Like, we fucking heard you say this 20 years ago. Like, I don't care, bro. Like, I was very disappointed.

Please make a tighter song next time. Remember, you are from the West Coast. Like, and we kind of started liking you for that. But then you decided to, you know, just, like, hop on a alchemist Griselda type beat, which was hard, but, like, for this, nah. Like, that's a track 13 on your album. That's not. Exactly.

Yeah. Is there going to be any up-and-coming LA artists on this album? Probably baby Keem. That doesn't count. They can't get away with the baby Kame again. But you know the crazy thing is one of the things that was sick about Kendrick is when he would do songs with gunplay.

When he would do songs, you know what I mean? Like these rappers that were... Freedo. Yeah, Freedo. Exactly. And that's the Kendrick that... That's my favorite Kendrick. He still dips and dabbles in that.

He did the Kodak thing on the last album. was like one of the only songs that sounded to me like it fit into like modern normal hip hop you know and I get it that was a concept album and it's brilliant for what it is and I wonder though if anybody had to give him a kick in the ass to even put that song on the album because it sounded so different but also I don't feel like that song was like the big hit there I mean there really wasn't like a big hit record from there that was definitely a one got not like us so well yeah which is like a year later but see for sure we got not like us. And I don't know, I'm just disappointed.

I wish I could tell you it was fire. It was butchieks. Was the argument ever that Kendrick was better than Drake before the beef? Well, that is kind of. I don't think that was never the argument. Well, look, also like... I think we were saying that he was like the best rapper lyrically. But dude, that song...

He wasn't like the number one performer, number one seller. Like, that's not what we're saying. When we say Kendrick... No, I get 100%. But also like this new record, Kendrick wasn't using crazy lyrical devices or anything. He didn't have crazy punchlines.

He had his regular Kendrick flow. He was dropping his regular Kendrick knowledge. There was no, anything that really stood out beyond that. It was like a slow talk to Drake. He was still talking to Drake. Right. On the low. Yeah.

And just not going too heavy on the beefing. You get what I'm saying? And it was trash. It was like the one he dropped before now. I don't even know the name of it. Exactly. It was Utopia. The Euphoria.

Yeah, yeah. Or it was Euphoria, then it was something else. Meet the Grams. Yeah, that sounds like Mead the Grams part too. Yeah, that was probably like one of the songs he recorded as a disc but never dropped. Yeah, that's what I feel like. I bet that the reception to that song

makes Drake feel like, oh, this ain't over. If I was Drake, I'd be psyched when that song dropped. Yeah, that's got to feel like a small dubby. When I heard that shit, I was geek. Yeah, I don't know. It's funny seeing, like, everybody in L.A., like, really, like, touting him as if he's going to be their savior, because there's so many L.A. artists that have zero motion that I feel like a lot of those artists are just, like, living vicariously through Kendrick.

Well, yeah. But based on the reception of this song, I'm a lot less optimistic about where this whole thing might go from here for him. No one cared about, like, the thing is, no one outside of here gave a fuck about, like, the West Coast research. It was just us that got excited about that. You feel me? Like, oh, all the motherfuckers. That was like, that was like two million streams a year all in one circle. Yeah, like the world didn't ever fuck.

How many more streams did, uh, did a Zolo Samar, or O Jeezy, or any of those guys get as a result? of performing at that concert. Zostream will, though. That's my point. Will. But I'm saying, does it... For L.A. Right, but how much it was that affected by the Kendrick?

You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, no. Do you think it moves shit a little bit? Uh-uh. Possibly? No, sir. I want to get you guys' thoughts on this topic. If we...

Can you guys just hear it through the headphones because they're sitting in front of you or... Yeah. I notice you guys doing this sometimes. All right. This is Street TV podcast wants to know why Latino podcasts still having spoke about the Kendrick mural. Defacing of this

of the Kendrick Lamar mural is crossing racial slash ethnic lines and it hits a little different. And I did a search. I did a search here on the mural and I haven't found anyone from the Latino side

so far being accountable for the defacing. I haven't seen anyone criticizing and it's been several days since it happened. I mean, I don't think we're going to get that. You know what I'm saying? Like, I would like to see LAI-Con. Let me see if I kind of spoke

on it. Oh, you mean from the Latino side? Latino media. Yeah, saying that, hey, I didn't like what they did. So, not that they won't, but as of now, and

prior to recording this episode, I couldn't find too many Latino platforms holding themselves to a certain level of but I think of accountability in terms of not liking it, speaking down on it,

not accepting it. They've been pretty quiet thus far. Hey, uh... You might not get that. What the fuck was that? We might not get that. And if you do get it, you'll get it from one of the rappers

that's expending. You know what I'm saying? Right. Was it like a bleep? They downloaded that off of a... Sound good on the computer and the phone and they were trying to insert it.

that in there. I don't know. But okay, we all saw this very viral clip of a Hispanic gang member. T-flat. Yeah. Going over the Kendrick mural. Yeah. Is this on the newly illustrious Rasa podcasting scene to speak out about this sort of thing? Or is it fair for them to just say, hey, that's their politics. They're beefing with these people? Fuck it. That's their thing. It's not on them to denounce it the same way if somebody from 60s does something fucked up. we don't look to Brick, like, oh, brick, you need to denounce this, right? Yeah, they do. Oh, yeah, Ms. Rachel, if they were to go rob a tacos then or, like, a street vendor, it would be up to me.

Well, it wouldn't be up to me, but. You don't get asked about that, $1,000. Exactly. Like, how you feel about this? Or, like, really, they would want to be to speak on it before I get asked about it. That would be the pleasant or the way that they. figure we should speak out, I guess, as black people, but it's a whole lot of us, but in the

podcast space from L.A., gang culture, you know what I'm saying? You're supposed to speak out. It's speak your mind, but a lot of people might be down with that shit. I don't know. Well, look, I mean, what if they're Drake fans? There is a white podcaster named Lush 1 who did discuss this as soon as it happened. You're stuck between the world.

You don't count as Mexican. No, I know. I'm saying a white podcaster. clearly I'm wearing a trucking hat right now but I my take on it was obviously it's unfortunate anytime something like that happens but really I think it's way deeper than black and brown

politics we're talking about gang politics in a city that's infested with gangs for lack of a better way to describe it so for that to happen and people to I don't necessarily feel like it's anybody's racial responsibility to speak on behalf

or to announce something like that happening. You know what I mean? When we all know where the fuck we at and we know how slimy the politics are. So they crossed out Kendrick Lamar or they crossed out somebody's hood? Do they beef with the hood that Kendrick Lamar is from?

Yeah, that's that's, that's, and the murals in the hood? Well, now it's in, it's at the Tam's over there. Oh, that was the one on the Tam? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I mean, yeah, Kendrick from somewhere, though,

and he's still alive. You know what I'm saying? Like at the end of the day, I hadn't even put that together. I thought he put NK on there though. Well, I mean and that's obviously a terrible thing but if that's the politics of the way the gangs are pushing at that moment.

If he put NK on there and then everybody be wanting us to do features and all that shit and then something happened on your side, we do kind of want to hear from you and how you feel about it. You know what I'm saying? Like we're supposed to be closing the gap on black and brown problems and

and shit like that happened. Then you go quiet. It's a good point. It's kind of fucked up, though. I ain't going to lie. Let's call the person who we're all holding responsible for this LA icon. I ain't said. I'm putting it all on him.

I'm sorry. Yeah. He was mentioning that video. He's done. He probably did talk about it, too, is the funny thing. Well, if he didn't clip it and make a reel and make a TikTok and make a short. Exactly. It doesn't count.

What did you say? If the cameras not out, it didn't happen. I mean, hey. It never happened. Hey, you kickflip El Torah. Do you don't got footage? We don't care. It didn't happen.

That's all I'm saying. El Toro is a famous stare set. People who are confused with what I'm talking about. See, Icon knows that he's about to get cooked, so he doesn't want to pick up the phone. Icon, we're coming for you. You're the face of this. You're watching right now, I got pick up the fucking phone. Alex Alonzo put you in the conversation.

Dique. My phone is off, do not disturb, so he can now call it. Come on, Dick. Come on, dick. I just sat down with Bozo. I should have got his take on this yesterday. Oh, he was at The Hater World? He came through to my pod yesterday.

I watched a new podcast called You Lied to Me Lush. Oh, I mean, I encourage everybody to come check. Definitely need my cut of that. Yeah, for sure. Obviously. Why do you think I'm here? But, yeah, so I don't know. I think that it's obviously scandalous as fucking as terrible to see,

but I can't necessarily hold podcasters or anybody responsible for, speaking or not, especially when their streets shit involved that's currently in the, there's a rapper that basically took responsibility for it and was dissing them in his, uh, and shot the video there and all that. So what? I see that. Yeah.

There's like a whole level to what's going on in the streets that doesn't really get covered on podcasting. This is absolutely. And I feel like that's the kind of thing that kind of falls into it. Yeah. There's a lot of like friendly gang activity that gets discussed on the podcast. Believe in

not there's a whole world of things happening that we don't discuss on podcasts that we hear about that doesn't get brought to the forefront sometimes i see the fans kind of like well what about this why are they not talking about that it's like well you know we don't talk about everything believe it or not motherfuckers really don't want to get people indicted you know what i mean like we don't want to perpetuate i think street tv is here too talk about that that show is called like politic it straight politics straight potit ticket and it's munchy alex and Spider-Luck. Yeah, Spider-Luck.

So they're going to end up talking about that. They're talking about that. You know, as they should. And Alex, I guess, him being of the gang culture and being supposed to be the positive side of things, he's going to bring the issue

of awareness up every time when it comes to situations like that. I think that's what he's in the game for. I think Brick made a really good point like is talking about how you know if motherfuckers want features from artists or want support from different communities because in the

context of the rap game people got to really look at supporting Kendrick as something bigger than just something that we would want to supersede politics and things like that and people to just get behind it or at least have enough respect to not like impose politics on something

like that you know the same way that we wish that the NIPA mural would have been given the same respect and things like that, you know. I think that it probably was, I don't know. I feel like they maybe felt like the media wasn't going to pick it up and make a big deal out of it, so they just skipped over it. Because it is random gang activity, but then it is Kendrick Lamar's mural.

And you get what I'm saying? It's a great marketing scheme. It says a lot for the rap world more than it says to the gang world when it's publicized. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, it's basically the person who saved the West Coast getting crossed out. Right. All the people that are riding with Kendrick right now.

Right. You get what I'm saying? But then he didn't have no Latinos on the stage. Well, the other way of looking at it is to basically be like, okay, there's two hoods in L.A. But don't get along. And one hood diss the other one's mural. What the fuck do we care? That has nothing to do with us.

Kendrick Lamar fan at Iowa. I'm not even going to talk to him. Exactly. He can figure his own shit out. I'm not explaining anything to him. I don't care. Sorry, Roger. But from an L.A. perspective.

All right, if I'm a Mexican podcast host, I'm not going to sit here and act like them dissing the Kendrick mural is like something that I have business speaking on. Because if I'm a Mexican podcaster from a hood, who we get along with and who we don't get along with is just like not. it's none of your fucking business and you know it's like they can't denounce them

and they can't support them so what are they going to really say? Yeah but every Mexican hood don't be for Kendrick Lamarge. Exactly yeah you get what I'm saying it's just that section but also do you think it's a like it could be a situation where it's like if your ops are shining

super hard and they're getting all this love and you're just kind of it might just create just they might not want no smoke with them Compton Vario Boys. It might create a situation of jealousy and anger that you feel, I mean, these shit.

I mean, all right, if you're a Mexican hood and you're spray painting N.K. on murals of famous black L.A. residents, you've kind of already put yourself in a box where it's like, okay, this is just not really like, there's probably not the same kind of guys who are trying to get on podcasts.

Well, yeah. If that's how your politics works and that's why you're spray painting on things, You probably are not the same kind of guy that's like trying to go do a podcast and be like well this is why I spray painted that. No, he definitely had Tupac bumping in the whip when he jumped back.

He just sprayed NK and turned on some rap music as he pulled off. Like, I don't understand that shit right there. I mean, there's rappers from day hood. You know what I'm saying? There's fools that rap. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying like the same dude that just wrote NK

fucks with niggas. Even if you rap in general. Here we go. I'm saying. Here we go. Isn't the general of podcasting as well as big shitty because. Don't try to take this off. Don't take this off of us.

This is about you. Why are you not speaking out? About what? About what they did to that Kendrick Lamar mural. Oh, I talked about it already. I knew he did. What did I say? I can't actually fucking...

Wow. Okay. Okay. That's an interesting development. Listen, let's imagine for a second here, bud. that we have no idea what the fuck that my girl got vandalized

I'm not from fucking Compton I'm from East Los Angeles brother but let's also imagine that possibly Mr. Kendrick Lamar has friends that are from the Piru gang I'm assuming because why would they write

P.K. on his face right? That's like me writing white people on your face right? I have the same idea. I think Lush might have a fuck white people tattoo

somewhere on his buddy. Oh my cock. I don't know why you would have that consuming Caucasian person in that building. Well, that was when he was from somewhere else for a while. Chill. What the fuck are y'all doing, little? New narrative.

What is your guys, uh, what is your guys' take on why the mural got bad on? We think you need to speak about it. We need Icon to issue a decree. I actually said they, I said icons dumb ass probably already talked about it for sure, bro, and their dudes were wrong. Like, so. We, we, we, we said, uh, the same thing. But then I said for, like a black person, just say, we see it I thought that he put NK it was PK

That says PK Okay Okay But his hood The person is from a place That also Yeah yeah Yeah for sure

That's why I thought it was What I saw the T-flats I automatically thought that But Just from a black person's Perspect I think also The fact that I had some guests

From Compton on my podcast recently No from a hip-hop Stand-pointed things Like we would like to see The Mexican hip-hop advocates speak out against it, knowing that we're trying to close the gap on black and brown?

Shitty, if you don't stop it. No, I'm saying from a hip-hop standpoint. L.A., I understand. We're from L.A., but then, like I said, tell that to a Kendrick fan from Nebraska or Iowa or something. Like, you get what I'm saying?

They're not going to understand. And what I said was, it sucks that that happened to that mural, but we don't know if old boys' home that happens to be from a pop group gang did something to someone and they went and they vandalized it. Oh, right. That's what I said. You know what I'm saying?

Yes. We have no idea why such a beloved member of the hip-hop community, Mr. Kendrick Lamar would have his mural vandalized, but we do know it. When's the last time you listen to Kendrick Lamar? I listen to bitch don't kill my vibe

regularly. I feel like that almost does not count. Did he have any brown people on states? Did he have any brown people on stage at the pop-out? Yeah, oh, geez. I'm not going to cover that again, sir. Oh, yeah, yeah.

So, I mean, do you think that this is payback? I survived the cancellation. I think, so I think it's your fault that it got vandalized. He's like, fuck, that fool's right. Fuck, that fool's right. It definitely sounds like that right now, right? Yeah. You didn't see the fuck?

We were hoping that we would just get you on the phone and you would be like, oh, it's my fault. I'm going to clean it up. I think the muralist should go back and repaying his beautiful artistry over those sections. Shit, they probably already did realistically. What's your take, Adam, being the all-knowing Jesus of hip-hop? I don't got no take. I just wanted to harass you about it. But hey, I appreciate you right on. Thank you.

I should have probably loved to say, like, one more thing there, huh? Yeah. I just don't know if that, like, last part was, like, super satirical or glazing. Wait, my opinion on it? Yeah. I mean, he's probably just, you know, he wants to know my thoughts on it. But my thoughts were like, I already kind of said my thoughts. So I didn't want to reiterate it for the pod.

But yeah. What if it was like a young white kid that did it? Oh, my God. That would be so funny. Ness van do it. Nes fan. Would I feel the need to say anything by that? Absolutely not.

Yeah, for sure. That's what I'm like, because the only reason that we're expecting the motherfucker going to say something because it's gang coach me or Rory Adam and Vlad do a panel about it. No but if there was like frequent collisions between like some white gang from LA that would make us talking about this shit so much

more interesting. It'd be crazy. It'd be such a wild card edition. It used to be white gangs in LA. I know what happened? There's still a few. Spoke hunters. You should get put on. Whoa. That's a name. That's like way that's like old Holy shit. That's a cricketing and budd. Yeah. That's a grimy name. That's a grimy

ass name. You're running around with that on your sure you're a wild boy there used to be like west side white ee's you're still like venice white boys i mean yeah but they're not gangs they don't brawl with black kids they just secretly ate us back in the day it was kind of slimy for a little bit yeah do you think they're bitch made because they all go to prison get shit loads of like racist tattoos and then they get out of prison and just immediately disavow it and i'll take it back it was a lot of them don't look at those tattoos as racist yeah yeah you know what i mean like and they're not actually necessarily racist people.

But think about how... That's white privilege. Yeah. You got a swatzika on your forehead. You got Hail Hiler on the side of your head. Ah, I didn't mean it. Just because I'm white. There's a lot of other, like, white prison tests

that are not as abrasive, like the pecker, like the Woody Woodpecker or stuff. You know what I mean? There's other things that are, you know... That's like Crip Matt coming home and going on Hoover Street. Like, yeah. I fucked up. It doesn't mean that.

In the... What it means. You can't go to Noah's bagels with a swastika tat, huh? Like, you kind of... Shit, you gotta go in and out. Yeah. You gotta take the makeup and come right up real big. I don't know.

Okay. Another topic I thought was interesting for us to discuss was the fact that you guys... Who knows about Jake Rich? Yeah. That's rich forever, Jay Crish. Kind of looks like almighty suspect, but... Nah. What you want to do, bitch?

What you want to do, bitch? What you want to do, critch? Oh, fuck out of him. Props to him for maintaining that smile even after being hit with his own shoe, allegedly. That was the shoe. That's what they're saying is that he got hit with his own shoe. You got to continue to whip my ass after that. You got to get back off.

He said that he fought like seven of them or some shit. Yeah. I mean, we might get like a more end-dove version of this from Jay Chris. Actually, I was DMing the dude who attacked him in this video. But I haven't managed to get on the phone with him yet. But he, uh, well, skinny from the, not pass me his contact. Yeah.

But, I mean, from my perspective, this looks like Midtown Manhattan, I'm guessing. Yeah. This does not look like he's in, you know, Brooklyn or anything like that. And so I feel like Jay Critch, it's been a long time since he was, you know, rich forever, Jay Critch, right?

So he's feeling like he can just go outside and do his thing and just be amongst the people and it's all good. And then he gets a little bit of a reality check, which is that somebody will actually beat your with your own shoe if it comes down to it. I thought he said he left with all his jury and shit. He did say that, but I don't know.

Maybe he put it in his pocket or something. The dude said that he gave it back to him. He said, I gave you your chain back, fool. What are you talking about? I'm so not prepared to take their versions of what happened when they're, like, discussing what took place in this situation. Like, I just feel like it's such a high chance that both of them are lying. It's just crazy to see that entire era of New York rap,

which showed a lot of promise with him and, him and abg neal and crime life cas and all those fools and like what wound up i feel like they kind of got the short end of the stick when new york kind of became more culturally relevant to the youth again and they kind of were like just missed that boat they should have started drill rapping like everybody else they kind of everybody else switched over i feel like rich forever was like pre drill rapper i know they should have got with the program but then once you have like Fabio and other people who are pushing lines and talking about shit that's a little bit more. Like that's all the problem with Rich Forever is it was a lot of jewelry rap and drip rap and sand rap and

perk wrap, but they never got, you know, it's like, it's just like thematically less interesting to the average person, you know? I mean, to be fair though, Jay Critch, there was a lyrical lemonade video of Rich Forever doing like a reunion like a couple months ago. So it's not like he's like totally out of the public eye, even if he's, definitely been marginalized. Well, the thing also, like, Jay Critch was cool, but his main thing was

being a part of Rich Forever. You know what I mean? Like, we already knew. Yeah, that's the only thing I know. I don't know any songs. Yeah, we knew who Rich the kid was, and we knew who Dexter was before Rich Forever. But Jake Rich was the other guy that they wrapped with.

Yeah, they put him up. See, I want to listen to all of his current musical output right now. I mean, based on these numbers, it looks like he's doing fine. I don't know, I'm just trust I'll put in these numbers. But, I mean, he's got some stuff doing, like, 120, and then he's doing other.

stuff is doing like basically a million. That Rich Forever Way tape was a great tape that had like In My Coupe and all that. That was, I thought that they were going to have a movement for a second. I mean, literally, though, if you listen to, even you could take Jake Rich out of it. If you listen to the famous dice and if you listen to fucking Rich the kid, it's like, they both are kind of like the reason why drill rap became huge because they were making music that sounded cool. They had cool beats and cool flows and shit,

but it ultimately wasn't really about anything at all. Like, if you listen to, like, all those tapes, there was not a single bar that was about, like, anything. Yeah. It was just, I got drip. I got Zans.

The best bar is when a famous X says diamonds yellow, like the Flintstones, who are in fact not yellow. Yeah, what the fuck is that? Was he talking about the vitamins? I think he met the Simpsons, but he got confused. Yeah. Yeah.

If you were around famous Dex during that time period of his life, yeah. Yeah. He was fucked. He didn't know what the hell he was talking about. Who was more loaded at that era? Would you say Boone Gang or Dexter? Dix.

Really? No, but Boonk had, like, the way he came in to do that fucking one interview, that was bad. That was really, that was way worse. I never seen Dex that bad. That's, like, probably the narwhis. I didn't see that.

Yeah, that's probably, like, the gnarliest interview footage. Oh, you don't even know. Yeah, I'm about to go watch. I did a Boone interview. This is one of the most viral things that ever happened on no jumper. I was in jail. Boone comes in, I know, but that's why

I'll give you a way of this, but boom comes in to do the interview and he's basically like dying in front of me. He's like, he can barely get a fucking word out, but it's live. And I'm very concerned at the time with like our live broadcast moving along properly, right? So I'm

trying to tell him like, bro, let's not do it now. Let's do this another time like you're not in a good mentality to do this or whatever he proceeds to sit down and basically be like completely incoherent for like 20 or 30 minutes before i'm able to basically be like okay good interview like all right we're gonna move it along right because this is back in the day and the back in the jumper where i didn't really like have the guys like right there to help me like solve issues you know i'm trying to be professional on camera when i think about it now it's like you should have just got your ass up and been like no i'm not doing a fucking interview right now

But, like, as he gets up out of the chair, he proceeds to, like, as he's walking past me, he just literally passes out and, like, boom. He, like, bangs his forehead off of the wall, and it just proceeds to go so unbelievably viral. Not to mention all the things that he did actually say during the interview were absolutely. And then, like, he had girls with him, and, like, people didn't really see this part. But he's literally, like, I walk out after that, and he's sitting there like this. And the girls are, like, dumping fucking bottles of water on his head. head and shit because he's so fucked up. It wasn't just alcohol.

It was all zan. When you fall on the forehead of zan, it's no alcohol as well. You don't even need a bit of alcohol. You pop three or four zanz you can... Yeah, that was kind of the end of us really hearing about... Did they take him to rehab after that? Well, he became John Gabonno next time we've seen him. True? Yeah.

Okay, that's what I was to say. Was that the life-changing event? Look at this right here. You can kind of see a glimpse of it. six years ago, eight million views. Bunk passes out alive on the No Jumper podcast, and this is him bonking his head against the wall. And this is Kid Boo, of all people who you probably also don't know. Also, how bad is this thumbnail? Like, what the fuck was even...

What were we doing? Kid Boo has the honor of literally being one of the worst human beings to ever grace the planet Earth. Yeah, but that was a time period where, like, a new SoundCloud rapper would come out. And I was like, bro, I interviewed X. Pump, et cetera, little peep, all the SoundCloud goats. I'm not doing a fucking interview with this loser. Because I'd already been around him a bunch before he even took on the Kid Boo name.

Yeah. He was like a goofy way before that shit. Right. But then, fucking Vlad. Look at this. Well, you did interview ICE with the goofy way. Yeah, but like, okay, even I see Narco. I see Narco.

That was like a weird call for me because it's like on one hand, he's kind of like the next SoundCloud rapper was coming out and getting some attention. But also, I'm like, this ain't. it like this is not is totally not it i'm not going to lie though they when she won a ling blueberry i thought that shit was hard when it came out i kind of i don't remember that i see narco was there when i met j cole and they like flicked up that is the most insane combination of human beings the picture of them together oh my god i guarantee there's a photo i see narco j cole spent $12 and i'm still hungry the fact that that exists amazing someone said that this is Photoshop

This is not Photoshop This happened in my store I was there that I did It's like way tighter than him and Pump Coming together I'm here from Jake Cole What was Jay Cole doing at the No Jumbers store By a bike

Came by just to meet me Was he looking for a bike too And he like wanted a bike? He's a fan I don't know if he wanted a bike But no it was like We had a mutual friend right Yeah

This Sasha Cohen I believe Or Sasha he's like a guy Who works in music whatever and he he had been telling j cole about me and j cole was kind of like yeah i'm interested and we should totally la ra blah like i would like to meet him blah blah blah i make the mistake of telling the sasha guy like damn i talk so much shit about j cole over the years like and he then proceeds to like go and tell j cole like oh yeah adam told me that he's like talked about your shit about you on twitter or whatever yeah that's the white guy that was hosting the shows where little pump was

creating the fuck j cole right which to be fair i never participated in that chant. But I did. I definitely tweeted about J. Cole during that time period, but I think that the only time that I really tweeted about J. Cole was just the conversation of like, it was basically an argument of like, who's better Chief Keefe or J. Cole. Is this a conversation?

Well, I mean, I feel like as time has gone by, it's much more of a valid discussion, but at that time, my opinion was, Chief Keefe all day. Fuck that. I mean, we all know that like Jay Kohl's a lyrical go, but come on, bro. These bidsches love so, so. Come on, bro. But either way, like, this dude, Sasha told him that, and that was kind of weird for me to be like, because I'm like, fuck, dude, I was trying to just like interview him.

I didn't want him to, like, know that I had fucking dissed him. And then he came in randomly. Somebody who's working in the store just hits me, and they're like, yo, Jay Cole is here. I'm literally, like, facing a spliff about to get into the shower. And I'm just like, oh, my God. I fucking jump in the shower. I get out, run to my car, fucking park my car, run into the store. So like when you watch the footage of me and J. Cole talking in the store, I'm like totally out of breath.

And it really makes it seem like I was having like a fucking heart attack. But it was actually like I'm just like sprinting into the room to make sure that I caught him. Yeah, before he left. Yeah. So that was one of the most difficult things I've ever edited in my entire life was the footage of me and J. Cole talking because it was so cringe and so awkward. Like the 15 minutes that I spent editing it was like the most painful 15. It is trying to control your breath the whole time. You try to get back right, but it's so much talking.

And then you want to know the first thing that comes out of our, the first thing, somehow we end up talking about religion right away. Oh, wow. And it's just like, oh, why don't you believe in God? And I'm like, okay, so the thing about God is, I'm like, I could never watch it now. It's just way too cringing. It's history.

That is super historic. Yeah. History. It'll never happen again. And I need to think about it like that in order. to be like, okay, it's okay. Now he's definitely not coming. I mean, we've talked over the years, but I feel like the only interviews

that he's really done are like Nardwar, and then he did like a Yadi one. He doesn't do media. He's not like a pro-black guy, like, oh, I just disagree with Adam. We've talked to quite a bit over the years. I was the one who got him on the phone with Little Pump before they actually did the podcast together.

Oh, okay. To be honest, like, I've always felt like that he's a super level-headed dude. He runs off as, like, like a Lamert Park guy. Like, he kicks it at the park. He's in LA, like, with his shoes up. Bro, like, fools forget.

Like, remember the rapper, Blue, back in the day? Blue in Exile. He was, like, in double XL freshman, I think, 2010. I do remember him, yeah. Where the fuck was he from? He's from South Central. He's from the 50s area. And that dude is where Jay Cole got his entire rap style from.

Like, he raps just like Blue. Really? Yes. Were they on the cover together? I want to say Cole was maybe the next year or they could have been on the same cover. Jay Cole was on a legendary ice cover. But like if you listen to all like the Jay Cole's

more like slower pace contempt, like the song where he's dissing Kanye and all that, that's like a blue song. 100%. This is what I was trying to get to before though, show the screen. Like look at how many views Vlad got from this, which is like it's blatant trolling.

But I missed out on this opportunity. Kid Boo says he's the second generation clone that escaped from a cloning facility, 3.6 million views. I feel like this might not work now on YouTube because it's so ridiculous, but at the time, shit went crazy. Him and Trippie Redd were doing, like, Trippi was saying, yeah, I'm from the same facility.

Like, there was a whole lore around it and everything. He said he had a twin, like, clone. There's a whole... I was deep into the... See, fuck my YouTube algorithm. Why do I have to scroll... I search Kid Boo Vlad. Why do I have to scroll past

learn colors with nursery rhymes the boo-boo-boo song Oh like boo Like boo boo boo yeah Okay kid boo boo boo boo boo all right Didn't brother try to Jack RIP Tony the cat as well Like

No you want to know he did He went to the store And this is like a week after we stopped Having the cat live at the store And he got a white cat from somebody And then he like went into the store And had somebody film him running out holding the cat That's but it was not my cat

Honestly If somebody if somebody had stolen my cat at that point in my life, especially when it's like, that was my cat. I had Tony for like 15 years. Yeah.

I for sure would have probably been liable to... I don't know what. I mean, I would hope that I would have the self-control to not do what I'm thinking about in my head right now, but... Ain't no kid.

You can't just... You can't kid. No, that's like beyond scandals. You're going to die. That's like kidnapping litter. For sure. Take her. Leave the cat. Did, um... That's a real biggie.

So you... Did you play along with him, basically? No, I never even reacted to that, because I was just like, whatever. I don't want to encourage this or whatever. So now when I think about it, I'm like, damn, I should have, like, played into some of these hilarious characters a bit more. Like, I could have done an insanely viral kid boo interview. Oh, yeah.

We got a fucking airplane right above our heads. I could have done such a sick interview with them at that time, but I was taking myself a little too serious. I remember like then all like the girls were coming out and talking about like the abusive relationships they had with him and all that like For a while he was just a straight like what was he doing he was doing fashion ova and he was doing only fans and I'm talking like way before I was like normal for everybody to do that shit Oh see you can't even search kid boo anymore because it's all fucking anime Four years ago I'm trying to find his pay I want to see how his shit's doing right now oh yeah rest of peace Tony the cat Oh, man.

Tony, the cat. The legend. Oh, my God. He put a song out two weeks ago. That was 1,200 views. R-I-P, the cat. Shulush. Name Tony.

Damn, dude. I think about him all the time. My boy. We left one day from Debbie's house, and they had a cat. I think the cat ate his aunt, because he was just gone when we got back. I feel like you could leave a cat in a room full of Zanz, and they probably that the cat wouldn't indulge.

It's got to taste so bad for a cat. Yeah, I think so too. Cats are more likely to take Molly or any powder or substance. But it was just like dead by the fireplace out of nowhere. He just was jumping before he left. Well, yeah.

What just happened to the C.G? Is the computer right? Yeah. The TV just went out. Oh, Mikey probably step up. They fucking hacked this. Fucking Michael. We're still alive, though?

Yeah. All right. the fucking we're all static shit I've never seen this TV makes static like that that's fascinating

now I'm just like paranoid that they can't see us I like the one called icon and held him to the fire I think you dealt with it pretty well oh yeah we're still left ugh um oh yeah but now I have to address the topics

from the group chat and not from the screen oh we're back we're back we're back we're back okay um shit but now did my fucking my big my big window escaped

okay okay here we go yeah now I'm just fascinated like what the fuck is kid boo doing why is this not showing hopefully he got Mandela affected out of existence that'd be super tight like you think he might just have never been real that'd be so tight I mean to be fair

he's still putting out like a lot of music but it seems like it's all in Spanish like seven months ago 718 There's no way. I give it to him. He's more transracial than I am. I mean, he bought the likes. He didn't go full bots on fig.

He bought the likes. You got to give him that. I'm just kind of fascinated by this guy now. Does he just pick random music videos that he drops to like by hell of views on? Yeah. He got what would like a thousand. His most, oh my God, he got a blacky youngster feature during his heyday. I really want to know what this guy's doing right now.

Misery. Diem. I feel like I probably haven't blocked if I had to guess. Realtee exposed. That's like so creepy that that exists. Yeah, what the fuck? Like a what fool? I know, would both say six years?

She was like eight. And also didn't bro lie about his age? Wasn't he like mad older than that? Oh, for sure. Dude, I had a girl on the podcast at one point who had exposed him. But then she hit me up years later and asked me to delete it. And I was like, okay

why would I not do that realistically who the fuck cares wait no jumper kid boo exposed it was a great interview and I was really upset when it got taken

look at this even me 1.7 million views kid boo the rapper who tried to kidnap my cat I can just make a video talking about anything back then and it would go crazy

that's why YouTube is so much harder now like this topic like I mean it's just not really like the most salacious thing but I guess you know, if he really stole your cat.

Three-hundred cats died a day. I hate how much cloud he got off of fake stealing my cat. Oh, look, an hour ago. Bricks says rumors and I'm snitching on people the long way or false. Look at our team. On it. On it. Also, I think I said that.

Anyway. I'm glad that we were reminded about icy narcos existence today. Very important. No, he was getting extorted. Yeah. Word on the streets. He, like, came to L.A. and, like, tapped in a little too hard with some gang members.

Oh, wow. At a certain point, it was like, I can't come back. Yeah. Yeah. Just leave all those bills where they're at. You just got to stand for it forever. It's too much to get right there. Yeah.

And them checks ain't coming in. Yeah. Laine costs more. Like, imagine pouring everybody up right now. He probably ain't thinking about that. Ooh, lean six years ago, it was, like, Iraq at the most. I experienced something in Atlanta where I, we were hanging out of someone and they were talking

about how much lien cost in 2012 or 2014 or some shit like that and Brick just fully like I've never heard Brick be so authoritative about anything he's like no it was this much Brick remembers the lien

prices from 10 years ago like it was yesterday absolutely and there was Brick was not allowing this conversation to go any other way because he kept trying to say he kept going back trying to hold his ground like bro, you're lying, bro. Yeah.

Like, what did you remember what he said? Because activists, he wasn't simply, he talked about activists that just came around in 2010, 2010, 2011. I sold it to 11. I'm like, listen, they has done. They already had went on one break by then. Yeah. Like, activists had went out for like eight to nine months,

and that's where everybody started even having a taste for high tech in MGP. That was like found. They went away and came back? Yeah. Wow. they like stopped production for like nine months and then out of nowhere it was back and that's when it was like 600 650 a pint and before that was like 300 and like a buck 80 like you're a buck 50 yeah it was 25 it was 100 for if you really wanted to like make the most out of your life you would move to mexico and help them get the activizo recipe right yeah I know some people who got the recipe to activist but it's just not active It just don't feel the same? I mean, it's not that.

You just know you're not sipping activists. If we gave you, like, a bunch of pills and then some other liquids and just put you in a room, do you think you could, like, come up with something that was, like, pretty close? Walter Purple. It's like a taste the same, but it has the same effect, right? As long as you leave me in there with a phone, I'll be good. You can figure out a decent recipe? Yeah.

Dude, I used to back in the day, have jug with this somebody who knew somebody that worked directly for the activist plant. So I was getting, like, I remember when, like, rappers in Texas were talking about, like, jelly and, like, all that they, it was the shit that it was before I was getting shit, like, the activist before it was cut with alcohol. So it was like a much, like, thicker, goopier substance. Yeah. But, oh, man, that shit had full stupid slump. I missed that shit so bad. He said it was called jelly. That's like, that was like what the slang was, like.

Yeah. But it was literally, it was uncut activist. like before it had alcohol. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and that shit, when you would pour it up, you would have to, like, shake the bottle like a motherfucker because it wouldn't just instantly blend.

You feel I mean? Like, somebody totally gooped you with fake drugs. No, I was, no, no, no. Like, I'm going for that one. No, no, no. Trust. I'm just talking to shit. Trust.

Did you hear about Kendrick and Cardi allegedly doing a song and shooting the video together in Compton? Really? That rumor's out there, right? Playboy Gardy? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I can see that. Yeah. That's the same circle of people. That's what J.3 said. Right? That would be like, I'm wondering who's, is that a Cardi feature for Kendrick or a Kendrick feature for Cardi?

I don't know. I don't want to play it, but look. A Playboy Cardi and Kendra Lamar collab could be in the works, according to hit a J3, who's close to both. And he said, somebody told him we got to get them working together about Kendrick and Cardi and he said, bet we can get this done

when the time's right, most devil. That's not very definitive. Yeah, I thought you said that it was a video shoot. Wait, what is this? J3 says that Cardi didn't clear for Drake because of his beef with Kendrick. Is that true?

Well, I'm look. J3 are... Oh, wait, these are just the lyrics. Neffel is hella, I know that that hitter J3 dude is super close with Kendrick Drake, and like... Oh, yeah, yeah, look at, this is actually more interesting than I'm getting credit for.

He just wrote... So the story said Playboy Cardi did not clear the feature for Drake, and he wrote, my bro ain't doing that. He won of us. So he's saying that Cardi is such a blood that even him giving a verse to Drake is something that wouldn't happen. That's crazy.

Why is he saying I'm in Bompton with the Pai Roos and I don't even bang yet? I feel like that's the lyric. Because those are cardy lyrics Yeah, I know But I feel like it's the song that it was like playing Like he just put the text from the song You know how it like automatically pops up

Like why What type of blood says that he's not banging? I mean Yeah A joke I don't know Maybe it wasn't fully initiated at that time Probably not the best like choice of lines

But it does for Hitted J3 to post I didn't make sense Because he's like he's out here with us I remember he used to be out there with hit it in him He used to be with What was the other dude name? Oh, man. Cardi and Kendrick doing a fucking video together on Compton is like one of the craziest things I can imagine.

I can't imagine what that song sounds like, especially like the way Cardi's been sounding recently. Yeah, that fucking future rip-off. That makes me really feel like designer got a raw deal. He kind of did. You know, like designer has had his entire career colored by the fact that he was accused to being a future rip-off. And now Cardi, one of the biggest rappers of the world, and he's like, oh, fuck, I'm going to do a future voice. I think also maybe that's his response to Mario Judah trying to record his album and release it before he did

back in the day he's like fucking fools just want to flip my style I'll flip whatever style now it says a lot about Cardi that he never responded to Mario Judah yeah Cardi used to be with G. Weeder that's what I was about to say you remember G. Weeder? A little bit. It was the blood dude that did the documentary with noisy it I guess

Oh he was in that shit? Yeah he was like the main one but I had a, my bad. I had to clear myself. Yeah, no, totally. But I don't know. It's just like such a bizarre concept to imagine. Yeah, that's a really, really, because I'm about to end this. Well, okay, there's a great time to end this right now because we got a fucking shit to do.

I got more bars to write. Shout out to everybody who watched this. I know we just slowed down a little bit for the last hour of this podcast. We're kind of like Googling a lot of things. That's all right. Shout out to everybody who watched this. And I'm going to try to see if we get a music stream of cracking this week. If not, we'll be back with him next week.

Oh, yeah. If we got some time, that would be cool. Yeah, let's get one going this week. But also, Mario Judah, he needed to be a lot more like the real Cardi and not just sounding like Cardi. Yeah, exactly. We can really dig into that one day. I heard he's making like Jesus music now. Mario Judah is a character.

That's what they always do. They always go Jesus well. Well, we got a donation right as we're about to X out of this shit. What do you say? Chapman. Network's happening in Tia News. TNews. Rich Trapper.

Oh, wow. Did Wack also tell you about him telling me to sue you and Flaco? What about the conversation where I treated him like a 304? What about the documentary I made about Flacco's freaky pass? Shut out lust for opening that door. We all know that Flacco has a freaky pass, and we've all just kind of given up on trying to piece it together. Did Wack tell you?

you about him telling me to sue you and Flaco, what would you sue me for? I can't even imagine anything. And what about the conversation where I treated them like a 304? You're talking about Wack? You're talking about Flocko? You're talking about Flock? He's talking about when he was over here. No, I think it was like, it was on his

live. They were arguing on the phone. And then, you know, I don't, Flocko having a freaky pass. I don't think that it's what you think. He's saying some crazy shit. It's like he said, shout out lush. And that's referring to the 2000, like when we were talking to his old classmates or whatever.

But you might be underestimating how freaky some of Flaco's path is. Not on some like zesty weirdo sexual shit. No, that's what he was talking about. Zesty weirdos sexual. Oh, I don't know about all that. But when he was a fucking, he was basically like a Dr. Umar fan account for a long time. And he was like taking on Umar's beefs. And there's like a bunch of shit alleged that he like did to people in the course of him basically trying to like put in work for.

Yo. It's not the... It's not as crazy is what bro is referring to. Okay, but I'm also being told right now not by... Yeah. Flocko himself.

The freaky past trapper is referring to as accusing him of his brother's crimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I guess Flocko's brother might have been a little bit freakier than him. Yeah. I don't know. There's been addressed like a million times

at this point. Yeah, if you want to expose FACO, you're going to have to do it. Like, if you want it to be big, if you wanted to have attention on it. We're just not going to be the ones who, like, push it to the forefront. Yeah, for sure. You're going to have to make your own video go viral.

Go get your own Mr. Beast co-sign for it, you know? Either way. All right. Appreciate you guys. Thank you. Everybody watches, please. Smash, smash the like button. Smash it.

Let's get to a thousand likes. Let's get past a thousand likes. I got a thousand dikes. Man. And I got a thousand nikes. I wrote a thousand bikes. when I was a kid I wrote a thousand trikes I'm going to

I'm going to the What do you call it? I'm going to Temple.