No Jumper - The NJ Show #319: Suspect Knocks Out Lush, Who Leaked The Video?

Episode Date: February 27, 2025

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The last Google search. Yeah. All right. We are going live in three, two, one. Take it away, Falko. Man, no Jumper coolest podcast in the world? I feel like that tag needs to be changed, right? Even like Metro change up his tag at some point.

If no Jumper don't trust you, we're going to shoot you? Man, listen, man. We're on docks you? Hey, listen, man. If no Jumper don't like leak your video, man, who would, right? Right. That's the new tag, right? Apparently so.

Who leaked the video? I feel like we have to wait for a suspect to get here for us to have that conversation, right? We do, we do. Right? Lush, how you feel it, man? I feel great right now. Yo, have you heard hit a J3's new song? No.

Yo, I'll be real. I have been staying clear from any and everything casual Lamar-related, man. But he just dropped a thing called like Pop to something. Pop it, pop to it. Yo. Go crazy. He's like a L.A. do, but he has kind of like that new underground swag. Right?

He don't sound like other L.A. rappers. Even that it's like, what does L.A. sound, right? Like, is Roddy Richard L.A. sound? So, like, I can't really say what he's sell. Right? But he just has that, like, he, okay. Like, he's not wearing chucks and, like, L.A. Swecks. But that hasn't been a thing for a while.

Oh, yes, it is. No, Chuck's and an L.A sweatshirt, you're talking about, like, Mac 10. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're going back to the 90s. We work with Crip Mac for about three years, and you're telling me you. Crip Mac had an admittedly throwback style. He, like, people, he was not of his era. We've seen a lot more Crip Macs in this building who has, has dressed in pro clubs and, you know.

The L.A. style for the past. several years really has been this guy, you know what I mean? Not just how he wraps, but the way he dresses. But he was a sweatsuits. That's a big... Yeah, sweatsuits. Sweetsuits is big. But Draco was a uniquely great

dresser, though. So, like, I don't feel like you can really like compare Draco to the rest that he's in. No, the reason why I say that, though, is because literally, people didn't know what Rami was. People didn't know that Rami the jeweler was cracking, but because of Draco, every not just rapper, but, again,

remember, hey, fools wanted to go to Rami. They wanted a piece from Rami. Fools didn't know of, like, I mean, some people would talk about Margellis, but fools weren't wearing Margellis like that and all that. He really made it, like, designer, the whole new thing. Like, that's, Draco introduced

that to this area. Yo, you know what's crazy too, though? Like, I, for example, right? Like, in terms of, like, my favorite, like, L.A. rappers, I, like, unawarely put, like, like like Draco and another guy in like my top five, top four in terms of who I, who I listen to the most.

Huh. Without even knowing there were ops. Like, like, I didn't even know like they had anything to do to do with, with like each other. Who, RJ, scheme. No, Izzy Chike. Oh, Azy Chike, yeah. I never knew because Azy Chike is like the most calmest,

like, awesome, like real, like grown man. Like, I didn't even know that lore. They used to be cool, though. Really? Yeah, yeah, Trich and Draco used to be cool. Just like, Drakeo was cool with a lot of those dudes at one point. And then, you know, things went left. Yo, I just seen, like, an op-ed, too.

Like, oh, my God. I'm sure you've seen it because, like, no jumper reposted it. It was, like, like, this, this journalist dude was talking about the unsolved murder of Draco. I did see that. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, listen, man. Yeah, listen, but, but, like, that topic, I don't even.

broch it, right, listen, I don't even want to know. Well, I mean, like, the updates, I don't, I don't want to know nothing regarding that, you know, like that, like investigations, for me. Well, I've never spoken to Ralphie and them about that in particular, but knowing the way that they are, I would doubt that they want that type of justice. Suss the building. First, first, first one, niggas ain't walking around where it tucks. You're wrong.

Yeah. Crick, Mac is a, is a rare formality. If you niggas only pull out all L.A. shit when it's hood days or if they're old. Like I said. His name isn't Rami. It's Rami. Rami. Okay.

Fair enough. Jesus Christ was going on up here when I'm going to go. That's a mispronunciation. I can't. I got a not belay ever. This shit. That's, that's, I feel like. I'm like, what is going on?

Rami is a jeweler. It's Rami. He's the jeweler. He's the jeweler. He's the jeweler. He's the jlergo got him popular. You know what I'm saying? I feel like a mispronunciation is.

And Roddy with that's not an LA swag. That's an Atlanta swag. Yeah. That's an Atlanta swag. He just a compting who do Atlanta swag. I said that the world because he said, right? I was watching. Sarah, what's the L.A. cell?

I said right now, but there, like, there ain't no L.A. sound, right? Like, the popper niggas sound like a lot of different things. I agree with you. Right? There's really no, like, if I agree with you. Right. This has been one of my main arguments. Niggas like, this man, me, snow, Ralfieie.

Okay. You put the groundwork. We laid the, I'm not a hater. I've always. Just because you a bitch eyes, I'm going to take out your or discredit you. You can't, you can't. That's like saying,

little Wayne wasn't the goat of the 2010s, but like because he was kissing bird man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm not going to negate your, your stats because I feel like you do weird shit. You know what I'm saying? So like, nah, nigga, we laid the groundwork

for what the, for what the new LA sound was. Before us, you had niggasies like problem, Joe Moses, YG. And that was a different kind of sound. You know what I'm saying? And then it formulated to Dreco, Ralphie, Snow, me. And we laid the groundwork for a whole new sound. And then these fucking buffoonery-ass children said, fuck that sound.

We want to be J-bo. We want to be Detroit. And we want to be like, you know what I'm saying? We want to be the Bay. We want to be Detroit. We want to be everything. But what the L.A. sound was, well, we laid the groundwork for niggas to take pieces of and make their own version of

instead of going and still in a whole other region sound. Every nigga want to be EBK, Everybody want to be a Detroit niggick. Everybody want to... That's what ass to me. I feel like L.A., bro, like... I feel like L.A. dudes, especially like the rappers. Oh, my God, yo, like...

Yo, like they have, like a lot of range, but they choose to not... Like, like a Young Veda or Loveda, right here, right? Yo, bro, when you hear him rap, I just straight up, just like, boombox beat rapping? Yeah. He's one of the best rappers you...

You, like, you were ever here in, like, in life, but he chose to picture hold himself to the party shit and I don't understand. That's also the thing about like, he's Chrysilda. When you talk about the L.A. sound, L.A. is such, has so many different styles and little subsections of scenes that you can't really just define

it and crystallize it into like one specific thing. Because there's a lot of fools that rap like that out here too. People that rap like with like a more traditional like style and that gets really overlooked. You got to realize why people do these things, right? Because how I rap from 26, 15 to, like, you know what I'm saying?

Today, that's not how I was rapping when I first came up and, like, how, you know what I'm saying? Like, how I grew up. I had to teach myself how to rap like that. Because, nigga, when I was trying to, nigga... Which in the cipher? Even that, that was real unprepared. Like, I didn't even know that I was going to be there. But she was rap and rapping,

I didn't even know I was going to be there. Like, literally somebody else, um, somebody else canceled. And then, like, we're literally at the cipher. I'm just with My dad. Yeah. He's supposed to rap. I'm just chilling.

Yeah. And then they're like, uh, somebody. We heard the this track. You was rapping rapping. Like, and I did. Right. I'm literally, this is my first time ever rapping in front of a camera.

That was my first time ever rapping, rapping. You was nervous? Hell yeah. Nick, I wasn't even supposed to rap. I was just there to see. And then somebody canceled, then it was like, well, we don't got another spot.

We're like, right from my son. I'm like, what the fuck are you all? What are you all? I'm just, I just said the first thing that came to my mind. You for me? But I'm saying, I don't say when I used to go to school and try to rap like that, niggins, be like, this shit, wee, nigga, that shit, we.

When you're trying to record that on song, nigga, like, this shit ass. Yeah. You got what I'm saying? So, nigga, you have to end up teaching yourself how to make these stupid ass, catchy party type songs and that type of thing, because that's what niggas here, want to hear. That's what they want to hear. Well, or, or I think it was like Kendrick Lamar and who said,

like I had sort of like avoided influences of trying to like switch up my sound to sound like you know for me and he found you know like his like co-fan base outside of LA and then very hard to do that. Yeah yeah yeah not that's a niche thing like people nowadays

but that's just the entire music scene overall nigger don't even it takes a certain type of person to want to play a song back like five times and hear something new every time because it's hard for me to catch all the bars because you're tripping. You know what I'm saying? Everybody don't want to do that.

the, all the fools that Kendrick were running with, top punch and all them, they had, and Jay Rock had such a prominent influence in LA, just on the streets, that they were able to come in with a different sound. You know what I mean? And it actually,

people would be more receptive to it than somebody else if they had that same exact style, but didn't have the credentials or credibility behind it. That's what made them. No, though, like a movement, though, that's kind of like reminiscent of like the OTD.

Oh, my God. I think it's called the whoop these or? Yeah, yeah, the whoops, meet the whoops. Hey, listen, I'll be real, bro, like that, like, like that crew in terms of like the streets is, you know. But they are kind of like TD affiliated, first of all. Yeah, because they are. And they're all like the difference between. It is similar, but.

And they can rap. Meet the whoops are hard, first of all. Yeah. And they all can rap. And a lot of them, we like, we know who YS is. We've known a lot of these dudes for a long time. But the thing is like they're, that's pushing like a specific. gang agenda, gang

line, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah, because the whoops still for, okay. Yeah, they're all bloods. You know what I mean? Meet the bluds. I mean, meet the blood. Yeah, they're all blood. Oh, see, I know whoop. Yeah, yeah. Okay, gotcha. So, whoop. Yeah, yeah. They're all bloods. So that's what kind of made T.D. different was, yeah, J. Rock,

you know, he from bounty hunters. Then you had an A. H. H.O. from Delamo. You had Q from Huber's. Kendrick, like, fuck with, like, the West Side, but it's, like, regular dude. And, that, that's made it cracking off. Yeah. I mean, like...

Yeah, I don't know, man, but like... It wasn't just like one gang. In fact, they really kind of like stayed away from the gang shit as far as what they were emphasizing. At least Kendrick, dude. No, but right now, I know, like, the two rappers who I just thoroughly enjoy, like, any verse I hit him one is AZ Chike.

Bro, it's like, bro, like, I don't know if he... I was one of the first rap niggas to fuck with Chike. Yeah, he hasn't missed. If you go look at my music video, you hear me? All my sense, but you hear me, 2018. Tchaik barely had a few songs and he was in the back of my video.

That was my... Really? I was my dog. Yeah, bro. No, bro. And he's the only one who I currently feel like... That nigga didn't pass me the fuck up. Nick got platinum, platinum McKin.

Yeah. Yeah. That is a motherfucker boy. No, bro. Bro, like, why I feel like he has the most potential right now out of everybody is is what I tell everybody, bro. As a rapper,

the niggas got to want to be you and the holes got to want to fuck you. This is true. Chike has those two categories, right? He's somebody who, he's like, he's like, he's a gentleman, right? In terms of like his gangster, he's like he's a gentleman gangster. Now, the old type, I don't know, I don't know or nothing about, but right now he's a gentleman, right?

You feel me? How he talks, how he, you know, how he dresses. And yo, if you go on Twitter right now, bro, the hoses, you know. They throw and they throw. And he got it. They throw on catchy young AZ. You feel me, right? The hose got it, right?

So him, and yo, to me, yo, Doty. You know, Doty Six could really, like, blow to. Yeah, man, yeah. Doty six, image and energy is great. Yeah. I feel like once he, like, really dials in. Elevates beyond the L.A. sound, yo, he's out of here. Because, like, yeah, image-wise and just energy is aura immaculate.

Once he, like, dials in on the creative side and pushes that further, he has a very high ceiling. He can be a big star for show. Chike, I agree. And obviously, you know, I'm the biggest Draco stand in the building. But I'll say that of all the, of all the people that, that Draco went back and forth with on tracks, AZ Chike probably had the best. Listen, bro.

Phil, bro, listen, bro. Chike outperformed Schoolboy Q on a song and he outperformed Kendrick. Do you know how difficult that, like, like, like, just that is alone? To outperform Kim's on a more and on a record. Well, again, again, and albeit, like, like, that sound, like, is his self. Picaboo is his sound. So you are supposed to sort of like an outperformer, you know. You know, the funny thing about the here, because, you know, I'm working on this documentary,

the Draco influence on GNX, which I'm working on, Mikey helping me with. Okay. What, peekaboo is a complete Draco bite. Just like, you, peekaboo is a flip. You want to die and die on that hell, huh? No, but peekaboo is a flip of Powell Wright and the Kisser. Like literally the way that there's like a phrase repeated is the same exact song structure, bro. Like.

So you think that Azi Chike was going to. Oh, I was thinking, you let me copy my top object. No, no, no, no, no. For people who don't, I'm not saying I agree or disagree. For the people who doesn't understand what he's saying, I'll show you the comparison. All right. It's like this, right? When you say words in between something and then you dealt back to pick a pigoo, pickable,

I just put some diamonds in my chain. Pickable. something, some, some, some, some, Picaboo. Now let's go, Pau riding the kisser. Pau, pah, righting the kisser. Pau, writing the kisser.

Yeah, that's what he's saying. Same song, Shrek. I'm not saying he's correct. I'm not saying he's correct. I'm not saying that he's wrong. I'm just saying that's the comparison. Was that unique, though, like to like, some people who don't understand it?

Was he the first to like? No, definitely not the first. Event that Rhymes. That's a device that has been used. Or regionally? Was he the first regionally to like, you know, to use that rhyme scheme? If that was the only, I mean, it's pretty unique. I'm not going to say he's the first, but like that juxtaposed with all the other examples of influence.

And even the fact that we had McWelp on here admitting that, yes. In fact, not only was, not only was. Yeah, yeah, he literally, well, in the in the squabble up video, like he has a whole like. But that has never. But he had a mini candlelit vigil for Draco and, like, did the old Draco face subliminal, correct. Because he can't acknowledge Draco publicly. Supposedly he can't. I mean, he's a grown man and you do whatever he wants to do.

No, for clear reasons, you can't acknowledge. Understandable, understandable, but it's like this is all things that I cover in my little doc. Sure, but I guess I don't see like the, like the pressing issue. if he's paying homage to but doing it in like a subliminal way like why do you feel the need to say, yo they copy him,

Trico look, look, but here's the, you know, yo, here's the all the proof. I mean, like he's doing now. I think it's more so

that he's looking at the, at the, this is the man's impact. A hundred percent. I don't think it's like, oh, you're copying him. I think it's like,

damn, this nigga impact after you're gone. This man just went platinum to the super bucks. I think that's what you're trying to say. That's severely overlooked and somebody right now is getting insane accolation.

and having one of the greatest runs in hip-hop history highly utilizing the influence of the style that this guy created that never really achieved the accolades that he was supposed to. I would understand if it was, let's say this, right? If, again, I don't say any names, but let's just say a rapper that's only,

let's say the same tier as, like, you know, like the upper comment and L.A. rappers, right? And then he begins to bite, like, his entire flow and style. and then he takes off to mainstream and now we're all giving him credit. That's different than Kierz Lamar, the biggest rapper on the planet. No, that's exactly.

That's way more agree with it. It's way more egregious. I don't think it's a bad thing. If that's what he was doing, I don't see it as like a, I think you're looking at it as like a demeaning finger pointing thing. I don't think that's what it is if that's what he was doing. You know what I don't even know if he was.

But I don't, I think you got to stop looking at. it from a finger point of perspective and looking at it as he's saying just like niggas that this man's impact was big. It's no finger point. You know what I'm saying? I don't think that is going to get. I'm trying to be journalistic about it. Hey, listen, from

my perspective, I think Draco is the second or third most influential you know, an L.A. rapper probably in the last 20 years. You feel me? Agreed. Right? Right. Now, first I'll probably say Nipsey is probably more influential from my perspective, right? But

Again, it's like you can take either or and you won't be wrong. I'm not going to die on that hill because Nip's influence was so impactful that I'm not going to try to take away anything. But the big difference is like me is game Nipsey and Draco. I'm not mad at that. What I really would have, what I and I feel like a lot of fans would have liked is just one. When it comes to top 10, I'm on there. Well, yeah, one, I would have liked to have heard one, we know the truth. or long live the ruler.

He can't. And you know why he can't, bro. That's it. Now, beyond that, there's other examples. You said, like, okay, let's say an artist blows up and gets a hit off of another person's style. We've seen it happen last year. 310 baby.

All over the radio. National hit using ASM Bobster's exact style. Same bounce. Same beat style. Same flow. He just had it way more commercially accessible and watered down. Is Bobster the originator of that sound? Yes.

Yes. He was one of the first fools to come out in L.A. in a long time with no influence from the Draco's, the Ralphies, Almighty's fucking snow gherbs. Like, he was an original strain. You know what I mean? Wait, but I...

And he was one of the first niggas to crack with the L.A. Detroit shit, but like he rapping more on some L.A. party shit on a Detroit beat. That specific piano beat. Like, to the point where for the first, 30 times any of us heard? When I first heard a lot of that shit, I damn the first thing I said of like,

oh yeah, this is like a cookie cutter bob. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get what it is. Because like some niggas are too thugged out and music is too thugged out to go mainstream with a certain type of sound. He making party happy music,

but at the same time he dissing it and he's doing that game culture here, they're going to love that. But national, I think it had a ceiling. And when you take it, I think it was kind of the same with me. and when you take a, you feel me, take a different kind of character and then give them that kind of same sound and just, you know, clean it up a little bit.

More marketable. It's more marketable. Yeah, especially because like with Bob's music, like, you probably wouldn't even understand half the shit he's saying. You know what I'm saying? Like, and most regular people wouldn't be able to understand what he's saying. It's not, you know what I mean? But I don't know if Bob even noticed it. Who knows?

Yeah, no, Bob has noticed that 310 baby ran with his sound. one of, there's no way, because like the first five or ten times I was in the club, literally, and heard that record. I thought Bob was going to be on it or something. I was like, oh, Bob going crazy. Like, yo, Bob. I knew it wasn't Bob, but I was like, as soon as I heard it. Or I thought it was one of the other ASM, like Bob 5, demon child.

There's hell of ASM fools, you know what I mean? Like, I didn't know who it was. But anyways, yeah. I think his problem, too, was niggas be going to jail a lot. That is a big problem. You know, niggas get money and they don't want to enjoy it when you got to kind of focus up. Maybe it's the label. Who knows?

That's true, right? Shit. In the bag, you know, you don't want to, you know. But between getting a lot of money or some of the most money for the first time of your life, and then you're like, damn, now you're trying to enjoy that shit. And then you're going to jail. You got, you know, game banging and involved in that, too. It's a lot of a factor that go into that.

Lush, somebody just just, just, just donate it. And so unless you lie to it, you didn't challenge Marvelous. Now, I don't have read it because I don't want to. attack you, but, you know. No, no, you know, let's read it. Let's, what, we hear. It's all content. Josh, can you click on the SuperShap?

It's all content, and I got some shit to say about this motherfucker regardless, so. Yeah, so they said, no, go out to, yeah, Lush. Yeah. You lied to us. You didn't challenge Margalis, Inc. You acted terrified the whole time for you to wear the shirt after his coward behavior.

Dayquan. I just want to tell Dayquan to suck my motherfucking. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. Listen, listen, listen. Give like a real response. Don't just... No, no, I'm... Pro, I can't have fun with this shit.

No, no. No, true. Listen, um, you're never going to see me turn up the way that... Do you see... I'm not, I'm not like a turn-up type dude. Yeah. I'm not...

Me pressing somebody is asking hard questions. That's my... That's my idea of pressing. Is asking hard questions. It's not going to be a physical press. Fair. I'm not a physically tough guy. And you know what?

Guess what? I appreciate all of y'all for watching it. And I hope people could cipher through, cipher through all the pretense and just enjoy a really, really good, revealing journalistic piece. What I really tried to do with Marvelous is hold him accountable, hold them to the flame, ask him the tough questions, which I did, which I did.

And the problem is, if you really watch it and you have a mind of your motherfucking own what you're going to realize is that he exposed himself and his own deviance throughout the

throughout the course of the entire interview now for the subsection of people who think that he's innocent told the truth and legit hold on all right let me cook thank you

I know it's been a minute yeah um y'all are entitled to y'all own opinions go ahead let's I'll be real man now listen

who the fuck is Marvin and informing what the fuck anybody's talking about. Yeah, it's like an interview, but like, it's not really like, like, that's not really like, like, uh, that's, yeah, yeah, that's the reactions. Yeah. People watching Adam go in on you about said things,

but like, I see those, but like, I don't know what. So, so what Adam, what Adam had an objection with. Wait, though. Before that, though. Go ahead. Lush, now you, now you have to admit, I'm young, but I give great advice, don't I? You do.

Lush, I predicted, listen, Lush, I called you, and 20 minutes and on the phone, I told you everything that was, every single thing that was going to happen, didn't I? Here's the thing, though. You did. Flacco, you told me. I give to you every step in the way.

Flacco said, I don't want to do the, like, Flacco's like, I'm not touching that interview with the 10-foot pole, and I suggest that you don't either. Why? Because there's no way to make, make, make, because there's no way to win. There's no way to win. And guess what?

There's no way. But here's the thing. And he came out looking like, say after that interview. I don't know. So, okay. Marbleus Inc. is a tattoo artist from East L.A.

He impregnated a 16-year-old. People was calling him a pedophile. And then he brought the 16-year-old, and she said, Hey. No, he brought her on his channel. And she told, said, the world, hey, bro. I gave him a fake ID that said I was 18 when I came for my tattoo. Because he's a tattoo artist.

Whoa. So he said, I thought she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she was 18, so we had sex and she got pregnant. I mean, but here's the thing. The real gem. So he said, we got a lot of gems in this discussion. That's a tough for her. Here's a, here's a big, the biggest gem that I learned.

Okay. Is that Israel is actually in Utah. Now, no, okay. Are you trying to? No, no, he literally, he literally said. Well, he's an Israelite, though. So, like, they have different beliefs, like, so we can't. Yeah.

No, like that. I was like, these are the fascinating gems. But he's an Israelite, though. So, like, he has... I have, I didn't know about the Utah thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a new layer of Israelitism that I was not aware of. But Lutz question, right?

Okay, so like, so Lyle. He did say Jesus was black. So, what do you, what do you do after you see your ID and they say 18 and you fucker? What do you do? I told Lush this. And Lush told me, verbatim, how do you not know the difference between an 18-year-old and a 16 year old. That's what I say, Lush.

I have no more like even. In today, day, me, I don't know. I think that. I have no type of response for that. Literally, I don't know how. Ask because there's a lot of bitches who are young and they look grown as fuck. Or just don't fuck 18 year old girls when you're pushing 40. Even that, though, Lush, that's a different, wait, that's a different belief than you, you are a

morality instead of, he had pedophiles or struggle. Well, people, look, that's morality. Not legal. Yeah, that's different than, yo, you aren't fucking nasty and you're pedophile. Because, yeah, it's,

it's, it's, it's not illegal, but is immoral. That's what we're going to, you know, like society, shit and all that thing. I watched that four interview, Lush.

I watched that full interview, unless you know, I love you about a nigga, but that nigga was cooking. Like, bro, Lush, he kind of cooked you, bro.

I don't think so. Right? Because, I don't think so. No, no, look, because look, right, because look, right, because look, right,

because look. I think he made himself looked like a complete deviant that's out of his fucking gourd. Lush, look though. You clearly was the more intelligent one, but here's the thing, though. No, he's super intelligent.

I'm not going to take away from his intelligence. Listen, short thing, but here's the thing, though. Intelligence and like, don't really matter when he's coming into this interview with the full, meaning this, even if he's lying, he has set up his iron-clad defense to where you cannot penetrate it, bro.

The bitch is telling people she gave me a fake ID. I'm telling you she gave me a fake ID. She came for a tattoo and gave me a fake ID. That nigga, even if he is a pedophile, he has set up an ironclad defense that you can't, that, again, that you're sitting down with him, you won't be able to impenetrate it

and people will walk away thinking, A, he's innocent, B, you ain't do enough if we think he's a pedophile and you sat there and had a full conversation and they're going to think oh shit lush you went easy on them Of course And that's what people is not saying But here's the thing like to me

Like I think people aren't looking deep enough at the whole thing Yeah Like really got to look at this guys The character is being revealed If you are a grown ass man Okay deep in your 30s Yeah 40 whatever And you like are willing to just

Knock down a girl that's questionably that you need to even look at her ID to make sure. And you have, and you have, and you have such a little dialogue with her prior to sex. And you also have 10 kids and your own son exposed you. And your own son was fucking a 40 year old woman that you wound up like having dialogue with. That has nothing to do with him, though. It does, though. It's all the portrait of a character.

The tattoo shop requires ID for everybody. So he's not seeing her and thinking, oh, you are kind of young, I don't know. I didn't know. It requires ID for everyone. He doesn't have a regular tattoo shop. He tattoos out of his fucking garage. And he requires ID because he's a professional.

But he doesn't even have a... I'm not going to speak to the... Whether or not he has a license, but he doesn't have a formal tattoo shop. But he requires ID because he's a professional. I think that matters. It does matter. It does matter. It does matter.

That matters. You just ask him for IDs in the back of your garage. Like, all right, bro. But, all right, bro. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm being a professional. What?

Yeah. So you're going to act too like a 15-year-old and the parents come back? Granny for her ID when she walking that one. Uh-huh? You're going to ask Granny for her ID when she walk in and get a tattoo? Hey, let me guess. Hey, Suss. You were under 18 when you got your first hat, right?

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I had a tattoo shop? No. No. No. In a motherfucking front yard or backyard. Sure.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's like the same thing. To be honest, I'm going to lie. I might have not. I might have been grown. I ain't gonna lie.

Well, shit, I'm sure. A lot of your friends for show got tatted up in there. I didn't really had nothing important that I felt like I wanted you. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't like a dumb ass for real. I was more in their crime.

I got this little W right here. My first tattoo was the almighty millionaires and I already knew snow about that one. So really, I think I was grown. I was like probably 16. I got this W. You really like in a front yard. Wasn't no IDs.

I was grown. Yeah. Now, Lush, but do you feel like he was wrong, though, for wearing the shirt? That's where you fucked up. Yeah, yeah, but guess what? That's where you fucked up. If you wasn't going to go hard on a nigga, you probably shouldn't worry. I just thought it was funny.

Nah, I thought it was funny. I guess, no. No, he covered it up with a sweater. No, no, I didn't cover it up with sweater. I had a different. Here's the thing. I had told the Hater World Fools that I would, they brought me the shirt to wear. And I was like, you know what?

Well, you should have worn then. I'm not going to wear that. strong about it. But no, that's going to ruin the interview, bro. Like, that's going to have him on edge instantly. That's going to, for sure, compromise. That's as strong as it gets, my nigga. Certified, love of voice. Uh, eight, you know? Yeah, you can't wear that shirt. You ain't going to go hard on it. Yeah, that's a strong as against. All right. I'm weakest fuck for that. That's where you feel. But, but I, I, I'm weak as fuck for that. But I fucked up, but I still like. The interview, though, Lush, made him look like amazing. I don't know. I disagree.

I disagree with that. Look, I think that. Look, I think that. I think that. I think that. That's a real hard one, though, but like, in my mind, I'm thinking a tattoo shop. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. When in your house, it's a little different. Yeah, of course. You know, but that's how, you know, it's semantics.

Now, look, here's why, right? But you are too old. You know what I'm saying? But then it goes to legality and morality and morality. Look, here's why, though, and he won, right? Suspect, we all came into the interview thinking this nigga is a pedophile. And we walked out the interview thinking, eh, I don't know.

So is he not a pedophile? Technically, yeah, you are. Just because she showed you a fake idea, you still fuck the child. You still fuck the child. Just because you didn't think she was, that don't mean it didn't happen. Yeah, right.

That's like, nigga, if I don't think I'm shooting you. Yeah. If I'm playing a fucking, like in the movie, you know what I'm saying? If I got a gun with a blank and I shoot you, I'm still probably on getting my asslaughter or something. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

I'm still probably going to get manslaughter. But are you a murderer, though? This is what I'm saying, but you still killed the nigga. Yeah, right? You still a murderer. Even though you thought that you was going to shoot him with a blank? Yeah. You still, he still dead.

Yeah, right? Like, he fucked the 16-year-old who he thought was 18. So is he... That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't... Yeah, I don't know. And that's why it gets tight to, like, should he have to register? No, yeah.

He wasn't seeking a kid. He was never convicted. He was never prosecuted. Now, I don't think he should have to register, but you did fuck a kid, though. Yeah. Even though you was... You was under the impression that it was an adult. You still, it don't matter.

Even if you didn't know you did. It still happened. But I think you got to look at him slightly differently because he wasn't like, I'm out here on the hunt for children. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? So that's the only line of the difference. And he's not on the hunt for children, but what he doesn't do,

and this was clear in the interview, beyond the fact of him having 10 kids. He definitely doesn't use much discernment when deciding where to put. his dick. Sure. You feel me? Like, wait, though. Wait, sure, but there's a lot of niggas who will fuck anything that's an adult, right? Right, but, exactly.

There's a lot of niggas who will fuck fat skinny, ugly, handicapped, one leg, amputee, they will fuck it. So, we can't say that... Don't you ever fuck my bitch in a wheelchair? Oh, I've never had an opportunity. I fucked a midget. I fucked a, I fucked a pretty slow chick

before. You fucked the bitch of a wheelchair? That's kind of fire. Yeah. I've never had the opportunity to. That's what I didn't. I ain't going to lie, man. You fuck your picture before? If I really get a kid telling the life stories that says,

y'all would think I'm lying. That's why I shut the fuck up. No cap. Nah, hell you, you ain't ain't hit the bitch in the wheelchair? No, I never had the opportunity to. I probably wouldn't know. I bet you wouldn't? Fire bitch in a wheelchair?

I bet she just can't walk. Phenomenal neck. Yeah, but she can't really look. Phenomenal neck. You ran them out? Yeah, yeah. Man, look. Hey, I ain't going to say too much.

Look, you wouldn't fucking bitch in the wheelchair if she was hot? She just can't walk. She can't arch her back or do nothing, right? Most bitches don't do anyway. What the fuck? Most bitches just lay there and just want you to do all the work. You can arch your back for her, she won't even feel it.

Man, look. And like, how's the hygiene? Couldn't use their legs? It didn't stink. That is a good question. That is a very good question. Very, very solid. Because some bitches who can use their legs think,

so you would think, nah, I just want nothing crazy. Yeah, well, that's true. You feel good. And I knew her when her legs worked. Oh, really? Yeah. So she... Yeah, I knew her when her legs worked.

She got handicapped. Yeah. Okay, got you. What happened when she was regular? You fucked her once broke her legs. That's not what happened. Nah, something happened to her and then I ended up being there. I mean, no, lust though.

But do you feel like, for example, right? You're somebody who you went into this thing thinking this dude is, like, probably guilty. And deep down, you think he's guilty. So do you feel bad that you are someone? somewhat responsible for why people now giving us due now the benefit of the doubt. Because again, before that interview, we all thought, yeah, nasty

niggins don't really want to talk to me. Yeah. After the interview, people were like, hey, bro, I mean, his, like, his defense was ironclad, and you ain't really, like, penetrate that defense of, the girl is all lost saying she gave me a fake ID and she tricked me. Well, so to

preface this name, man. She tricked you, but you still fucked the kid. Yeah, no. That's where I'm at with it. Did I not? tell you before the interview, I said, I know this is a big risk. I know this is a risk. Did I say that to you? You got to say that you are known to hit big shots. Exactly. I'm a roll the dice. You can say that, but guess what? Even my misses are still Ws because that's okay. Because at the end of the day, the views going crazy. The views going crazy. And what I'm trying to do is really, I want to be

Walter Cronkoy, Barbara Walters. You feel me? Diane Sawyer. I want to ask, I want to have conversations with people that are difficult conversations. Before, like, okay, like when Adam had Richard Spencer on, when Adam had Nick Fuentes, before, I didn't get it. And I was really, like, upset at the time. I was really upset. Like, why is this guy being platformed? It's not about platforming somebody. It's about having that discussion. Whatever comes from it, comes from it. Yeah, but we did. Like, I had my, I had, I had my objective, but my objective at the end of the day, was to like have a good conversation. Whatever happened from it happens.

My belief was, is this dude, should he be held accountable? Is he scummy for that? Is he those words that we use, PDF? Yes. But that don't mean that if I'm unable to sway the consensus in that and he's not going to break, then it is what it is. But I'm willing to get in those debates, have those conversations every time and I'm still learning. Now I learn what I can do better next time.

I need to be a little. I thought I was well prepared. Should have been better prepared. I'm going to go harder in the pain. Bring all the chomels on. I'm ready to debate all the enough. I'm just saying whoever it is. No, Lush.

Guess what? Whoever it is. Lush. Lush, bro. But, like, bro, you did, listen, you did the best that, that, that, that, that, that, like, anybody would have done in a while. Because there's literally nothing you could have, like, really said or done in that interview outside of swinging on them that would have.

that would have matter because the nigger He should have used the blank metaphor He would have fucked them up The blank metaphor The blank one that I just used with the blanks If you're on the movie set And y'all doing the action scene You know what I'm saying

And you don't think that you're about to kill him And you shoot him He still died Involuntary manslaughter though right Yeah he still but he's still dead You're still a murderer Just like you said You know that's a good point

No you are a murderer Or like a manslaughter You said we can rewind the tape You said he was a murderer The last time I used this, you say he's a murderer. You said, is he? You asked. Yeah.

You said like, well, like, see, a murderer, though, right? Yes. But murder the man, he lost his life. He's gone. But also because I- You killed somebody. I have a- You fuck the kid.

Now, are you a pedophile, whatever that is? Yeah. You don't, you fuck the kid. You fuck the kid. No, no, no, no. I'm not saying you. I don't know what I go. It don't matter.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You feel me? Like, yeah, you might have been thinking with whatever it was, but it still transpired. Same thing with the blanks. It don't matter. And that's why I will go to, nigga,

say the dude who would use the blanket and shoot the dude he still has to go to sleep on that at night. Yeah, you didn't try to do it, but it's still having. And, bro, and... I don't think Marvelous is losing sleep.

No, I'm not saying that. He's not. I'm just saying some people, if you would even have to, I'm not saying that he would lose sleep. I'm using that act as a stance that if you would even have to, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what you, you know what you're saying? Because some people would. That's the point, Lori. Yeah, he enjoyed it. So awareness. Think at night about you. Awareness is for sure enjoyed it. Awareness has been spread.

And like, I think another thing is this, because me being who I am, and my demeanor, I'm pretty much essentially cooler than the other side of the pillow in the middle of the winter. With the A.C. All the way up. No, but I'm a chill-ass motherfucker is why I am. So I'm not going to be, I'm not going to be confrontational in the way people think I am. But what I am going to do. Because if you watch what suspects said, you should have used this metaphor, I

said to him, I said, according to what people are saying, according to, you know, Southside regulars, you are, regardless of you knew or not, you're no good. What do you say to that? I asked him that question. Yeah. And he had a kid. This your boy, Icon, man. And he did this icon. He did this icon. He did this icon. Well, he did this icon on my face. Yeah, he did. Oh, just on the phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just icon on the phone. And now was after Icon had said something about like basically icon said if I'm sitting was sitting across from him I wouldn't just I couldn't do it anymore I would just

have to take flight well there's probably not the best way to handle an interview where somebody would have to come because if not somebody he would have to because the next time he hit that jail he might not make it out oh icon oh they really that that's what he's essentially what he was implying that's what you know what I'm saying he was saying he would do it

because of a nigga just because like I'm mad now it's like nigga if you don't when you go to jail you're gonna have to answer for these things with you a Southsider. Even sometimes when you, nigga before jail, but hell you hit that

pin, you hit that you're gonna have to answer for these things. I got a hell of people mad at me right now for even having that come. But at the end of the day, bro, I'm a fucking journalist,

bro. I'm an old-ass man and I'm a journalist. We can't pick and choose when we count less as a less as a sub-sider. Like, I ain't trying to disrespect that.

No, it's good. But like, let's not do that. But we just playing that though. I know, but like, we can't pick and choose when we want to call this nigga of Southsider. Sometimes when they can't be up here

these situations. He's a South Island. That's true. No, no, no, but people also, you do too. Yeah, you can't point the thing and be like, you, you will tell, like, we're civilians. And then when there's certain shit, you can't. Yeah. With your house iron now, look, we can't do that. If that's what we're going to do, we got

we got to treat him to court as a all time. I'm, I'm a dude. I'm definitely, I'll never call myself a civilian. You did, though. When that lawsuit happened, though? What's a lawsuit? Remember? Oh, the Alki-David thing? No, no, no, no. I'm a civilian. Right

I'll sue the fuck out of somebody At this point of my life Don't don't don't don't Don't let me Get a chance to sue somebody I'm doing I don't think it's not I don't think he was here

The member though right It was you and like The pops was on the phone with him here And the lawsuit came up And he said Well I'm a civilian Right I can't

Right Okay but let me explain this I'm not a Gary Baker But no there's different. There's levels to a civilian, right? There's levels of civilian. If I'm not a civilian, but I don't game. Right. But if I'm talking to somebody, that's like a reputed member from like an actual

hood. I'm to them. Do up your set here, Lus. You are a reputable game member from for sure. I'm a tagger. You feel me? I'm from where I'm from. You are a reputable person from a hood. You are a game maker. As different, fool, you know it's different. How? It's different. You are somebody who The fame is a reputable from a particular set that you rep. It's, it's, it's, my...

Look, I'm not trying to ditching spend Lutch Gang Bang. I'm just not calling Lusch. I've known this nigga for like 15 years. I'm not calling Lusher Gang Bang. Yeah, I'm not doing that either. I don't give a fuck if he'd be over there, if he spent 15 years over there, if he with them niggas, if he holds...

I can understand all of that. I'm just not calling Lusher Ganga. Yeah. But the early Lush, though, during, like, the battle rap, like the battle graphs like podcast things. And trying to get million-dollar deals connected. No, no, no, no. I am not calling Lush a gangbaker.

Yes, this is not what I'm doing. And that does not offend me in this life. It's not what I'm doing. No, listen, 22, though, when you... I don't say you can't gangbanger and do these things. But I know that. I'm just not calling the game banker. No, look, 22, when you and, like, disaster had y'all

better at podcast and you would make the guest appearances on, like, the different shows and on a jumper, lush, almost every show, you would throw a west side I say 51, 50 years. Yeah, but here's the thing. Like you was doing your thing. You know what? You know why.

You know why? You know why? If he's all podcast saying Westside, 5150, come on, bro. You know what? Those things? I'm just not calling it. But I didn't, you know what it was? You could be a game number without being a game.

I didn't realize how much attention that was going to get. And my homies weren't feeling that shit. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. They weren't feeling that shit. Wait, pause. So you come from a hood where you are held accountable for certain things you do on

platforms and you are a reputable famous person from that particular set that you rep. You live over there and then you'd be like, oh, I fuck with the wootty whoops and then they're not feeling out. They're not feeling it. They're not, it is what it is, bro. What? What are they?

Like, Fools don't want that. He's not a gang member. Beyond that, fools just don't want that much attention. Well, they're not claiming you or they don't care. No, it's not that. These are my, my, my homies. You're just like, yeah. Like, what are you talking about?

Like, the, the next no jump or show? Like, seven of them was there. He'd be with them. Yeah. The Mexicans. He'd be with them. Yeah, well, yeah.

I'm not saying he's a black one or he's lying. I'm just not calling him. So, Lus is a South Sider. No. Look, bro. I'm not calling it. Maybe if you go to jail. Yeah, exactly.

Like, really? Yeah, if I get locked up, that's what I'm going to. That's how I'm going to. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. He's going to have to pick wood and get stabbed.

Oh, yeah. If he picks wood, he can't come outside and say none of this 501 anything. Yeah. But when I'm going to black slush? Oh, no, I'm not. No, he's not. But you, I'm cool. He's a part of you.

I'm cool. You can say he's affiliated with the culture. Yeah, exactly. I'm friends with a lot of crimson. I'm friends with a cool amount of blood shoe, but I'm... The only way that would be possible is if he was a... I'm both other. A whatever he is, Crip.

Yeah, yeah. That would be the only way he'll run with niggas. But he's blood. No, no, no, no. You can't be a Southside in the blood. That's not how that was. You can be a rare rack Serrejo. Yeah.

But you can't be a Southside. Like Culver Cities and shit. Yeah, Culver City Thresne and shit like that. Wait, who's that dude, though, from like, from the North that came here and this, I think, I think, I think, like a lefty gunplay. Bands? Like, he's like the black, the black, Mexican.

Oh, oh, oh, Rico too smooth. That's a Northania. Yeah, he's not a blood. Oh, they're not bloods. Okay. Oh, Saranios wear blue rags down here. Northangios up there wear red racks. Yeah, that's why it's a thing when you're a red rack serenio.

There would be no reason for that. word if that was... Oh, okay, got you know what I'm saying? There's no reason for that word if it was regular. It's not. I only know of a few hoods. It's very few. Yeah, I know Culver City. I know that some Florentia sets, I think, have had red regs. There's been like a few

like south side hoods that are red red red red. Well, Lush, speaking of altercations, man. Jesus Christ. Your fade with suspect gets leaked. Now, I'm gonna say this, though. How is the question? Wait, though. How?

I'm gonna say this, though. He didn't want that out. No, listen, though. I'm a say this, though. It wasn't. to suspect's defense, I think like last year when I came and asked, yo, I just seen this video on Brick's phone

and he said, what video? So he wouldn't even like tell me a video existed. So somebody You know what it is? I was like, nigga, that's how you know it didn't come from me. It didn't come from me. Right? Right.

First of all. So much so much to talk about. Because we had a viewing party. you know, on a few people's phones here. So, first of all, whoever it came from, if it got out, out, now,

I'm not saying from this, inside this building, you know what I'm saying? Now, now, now, now somebody might have seen it from me in this vicinity,

but leaving anybody who doesn't work here, that's 100% now. We, we have theories on who it might be. Yeah, we have theories. I'm going to say too much.

Okay. We have theories. And here's my theory, okay? Now some, now, don't. Let's see if he's smart. Okay. Because I think I know. Yeah. So my theory, I think I know. I think we all know. If somebody in this building gave it a smack. Smack then was in possession of it. And smack probably, you know, he gave it to a few other people. And then, you know, it came out, you know, how it came out. Smack is in possession of a bag of powder and that's it. He was never in possession of that video. I think they would have dropped it. Yeah. Would have been dropped it. He, yeah. Yeah. That's, that's. That's good content.

Yeah. I just didn't want to be part of that content. In fact, when Smack was threatening to drop it before, I said, I told us, and I told our group chat, I was like, I don't think I was like, let's drop it. I was like, let's get ahead of it. I think Smack has it, but, but like, out of respect for the person who gave it to him, he said, I can see that. That's possible.

I won't drop it. But guess what? I never, I would have put it out last year. In fact, the reason I didn't is because I hit up Suss. And I was like, hey, I want to drop this to get ahead of it because these fools are going to drop it. So what's your theory, though? Then Suss said, I'd prefer if you didn't drop it, to be honest with you. Because, like, that's not a good look, bro.

Like, that just had to happen between me and him. I'm not trying to be honest. Oh, yeah, I beat up last. Oh, wait, two. Wait, shit not. And by the way, like, the vizole took a dive. That was the third around. Yeah.

And he fucking caught me with some shit. That hurt me. Yeah. That hurt me. Thank you. Yeah. That hurt. If people think that was taking a dive, like, y'all.

I was on clubhouse all night last. I can't do a push up no more. No, listen. I was on clubhouse all night last. You losers are talking all night about this on Clubhouse? That was, listen, I told people, right? That was a month or a few weeks after Seth was in a car crash. So, like, his leg is fucked up and then his, his hair.

Everything. His head was broke, right? So, yeah, so, right, like, you feel what I'm? And the folks was, here, folks was, I guess, expecting you to like, like, kill him. What you kind of did kill him? Cause, nigga, like.

And bro, y'all got to realize I've known this niggas since I was, fell. The point wasn't to, nigga, the point wasn't to really hurt him, nigga when he fell out, I would have kicked him. Yeah.

Or I wouldn't let him get up. That wasn't the point of it. Yeah. Who was going to stop me? Sure. That wasn't the point of it. You know what I'm saying? Like small out,

oh, you could, man, I was out there chilling. Yeah. I wasn't trying to, the point wasn't, it killed this nigga. It was just to make right. It was like a form.

It's a formality. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, niggas, I don't think, I don't think, understand, people don't understand that type of nigger I am. People think that I choose. I don't, if a nigga come across me,

whatever happened, it's going to happen, nigga. Like, I ain't ever picked and choose nothing with nothing, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Like, nigga, when I've seen Nate Dawks,

son, nigga, I proceeded to get out the car and I slapped the shit out that, I didn't pick and choose. I had never met that nigga before. I didn't know how tall he was, how tall he was, how big he was, how big he wasn't.

I just knew when I seen him, Now, I'm not going to meet it. If you're not one of my, somebody that I will call a friend or our family or extension of, there's no way I'm meeting you to do anything. Okay. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Like, these are things that happen between motherfucker that you fuck with. If I don't fuck with you, we're not in 10th grade, nigga. You can't DM me and say meet me at the park, meet me at recess, nigga, under the basketball tree at 12? Like, nigga, no. After school. three o'clock. Fuck out of here.

By the garbage can. Fuck out of here. Who leave you? From your perspective, who leaked it? I honestly don't know. I feel like it's an inside job. You just said that you have... Bro, you just said...

I'll say inside job. Yeah, yeah. Bro, you just said that... Somebody here. Said that you had a feeling. Somebody here. Somebody here. Who just say it, man. So you know.

Inside job. I don't know if I wouldn't have been surprised if back in the day maybe... Brick had sent it to Sharp, you feel me, and then Sharp decided, and I can't even be mad at Sharp for leaking it because it's like, all right.

Oh, Slitting Sharp. I think there's very, I think there's very... Or maybe Adam just was like, this would be funny. No, because Adam watched it when I watched it from my Brick's phone. So we watched it from Brick's phone. So it's on Brick's phone. Sharp, I think, had it too, because, well, Sharp and Brick

talk on the top. So, ah, so baby, Sharp got it. But I don't feel like Sharp would do that. that right now. I don't see what the reason is like... Man, when your shit not cracking, you do anything. But who knows?

I don't know. We feel you all be wrong. Somebody. I'm going to say inside down. Why would that, why would that benefit sharp? Exactly. Because it does,

it's not like it links back. That's what I'm saying. It didn't pop up on nobody's YouTube. It popped up on some random Instagram shit. Who benefits from that? You can't even get paid from that. Nobody benefits for that. That don't even make sense.

that's somebody who probably It was a dumb ass somewhere Who knows? Like, migger I thought it was weird that like When I hit the group chat last night And I was like, man, I wonder who leaked it And then someone was like Well, where was it shared? I was like, oh, the only place I put

It was here and everybody was so quick to be like, no You never sent it here. No, it was never sent No, no, no Yeah, I was like damn, y'all are being really adamant about that Are you sure? Like because the group chat I have the history of the videos

that was sent in a group chat and you never sent no video to our group chat if it's possible you could be right yeah you could be right

yeah I remember that when we were gonna play it on the show it'd be I sent it to somebody you told me that I couldn't get it because I would have made

a video about it and on my channel that's probably true and then a year later right random strangers got the content and they made the money and we didn't make shit

we should We should do a poll Let's see where the chat things leaked it Lush, what should actual theory? No, I just, I honestly don't know. Sharp? He just told you. But he said that he throws a shot on it then.

I really don't see why sharp how it would benefit Sharp. I don't know how it benefits anybody. It doesn't make, it doesn't make it don't benefit me that don't benefit this nigga. Yeah. I don't see how it benefits anybody. Honestly, I don't care.

Like it was kind of like shit. Like when he talked about dropping, I told the nigga don't. Yeah. didn't want it out. That's crazy. Yeah, I wish I could have dropped it now because at least I could have got the algorithm from it.

But regardless, it was a, like, damn, like my name's been all through the conversation. It's been, it's been an interesting 24 hours. All right. Now, no, okay, so like the one question that got me fucked up, too, because that was a beautiful over here. Yeah. I don't feel like, what a name.

Yeah, yeah. I would, I encourage y'all. I encourage y'all to take that punch and see how. It felt like a dive. If you listen, if you listen, I don't know if the audio was like, you could hear it. Bro, that full cracked. Niggas, you can hear it. My ears for the next day.

I always say, like, nigga, if he would have, like, got up there and gave me a fade, after that moment, he probably would have whirmed my eyes because I was done. My wrist was out of the fight. You were tired. No, no, no. My wrist was out of the fight. I couldn't do nothing no more. Damn.

So if that didn't end right there, there would have been a problem for me, possibly. Damn. And that says a lot. My shit was done. Yeah. I would have to turn into Goku at the freezing hit him. Bro, you can see footage of me. My left shit was all I had.

And my left shoulder was fucked. My wrist was already fucked up from the car accident. My left shoulder was fucked up for the car accident. Everything was already fucked up. And then at that moment, I put, nigga, that was, look, people further to realize there was footage before, there was, that was the end of the fight.

That's the very end. Yeah, that's the very, very end. Yeah. Because I see longer footage, though. That was the very, very end, right? That was the one where. I was just like, all right, I'm over this. So we're just going to get this over.

And afterwards, I go in the back. I'm smoking with pops waiting for this. Well, this pool don't come out for like a good 15 minutes. You feel me? Like 15, 20 minutes. And then we kick it. We smoke maybe two blunts, drink a little bit, whatever. Then I dip.

And then Rimo's like, oh, you're going on the show tomorrow. You should promote it. So I go on live at that moment. And my ear is still bleeding. Oh, wow. wait, at that time, Lush wasn't even like here to even send us a group chat about it. It wasn't even in a group chat.

Oh, no, no, no. No, the group chat thing came way later. Oh, really? When SMAC said, that came when smack at some point last year. And this is how long ago that shit was. Yeah, that shit is literally a year ago. Now, listen. A year ago.

A year ago. I watch a longer video. And, hey, listen, I was impressed with Lush fighting skills. I'll listen. I was weak as hell, bro. I'm not going to lie. I did not know. Are you serious?

I did not know. No, listen, I did not know the Lutz knew how to throw a punch. He don't. No, Lus is through compost like the Lusch. I tried. I tried. He didn't really hit me. I tried.

Because you ducked, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So all the people saying that I didn't throw a punch. No, that's because what you all seen. What I see. But if you don't know, this is why I didn't want that shit to come out. Because if the whole thing come out, it was going to be even worse.

Yeah. I'm like, this is so unnecessary. Like, I don't want none of this shit to come out. No, it wasn't. I'm just, you got to understand. I hadn't, I had it. The first, the person, like, y'all saw Lush was, was, for sure, die. It wasn't a die.

No, listen, I just had it. All right. So, look, look, look. I hadn't fought for a long time. I did, I was like, I was nervous. Lus the first point in there bitch you, and you fell. Factuals. Did it?

Look, look, look, look. That's what made me hit him that hard. Yeah. Because I was over it at that point. I'm like, all right, I keep trying to hit this nigga and on my way. hit this nigga he keep going down. So I'm just going to hit this nigga real hard. It was more the, the, the, the,

falling. I think he was, he was, he was, he was getting hit and he was going down and he was, maybe I wasn't realizing how hard I was hitting. Yeah, you were hitting me hard. It, like, it was one of those things where, like, you don't feel it till later. Yeah, I wasn't. And I think he was anticipating the punches. So, like, when you ante, he was anticipating him and, like, trying to, you know what I'm

saying? Like, like, when you slap somebody and they lean back, but you still hit him. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, that's what I was more so, more so getting. But it, the, the last part that niggas saw was just like, all right, I did, this probably needs to end now. So, like, I'm going to do like what I do. I just feel like any fight, people see people are always going to be like, oh, that motherfucker week is hell.

99% of the times, like, all right, Floyd Mayweathers. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Whatever. But look, one thing I do want to say is, armchair boxers, the most time. Armchair boxers. If, if you watch, if you watch any fight on the street, when people throw over. hand anythings, they swim. It's called a swim banker,

is what niggas do. They duck their head, and they'll do one of the deep. Yeah. And you can see... If you can see anybody who can throw an overhand without ducking their head,

you know what they're doing. That's all I'm gonna say. If y'all slow that shit down, nigga, the leg twist was in that motherfucker. That bitch was fully extended. Look, a UFC fighter hit me. That's all my mama. Look, I'm gonna read the message.

Oh, man. I'm gonna read the message. Look, look, right. Hold on. Wait, what's that Bobby Green? Nah. A nigga who are pro fighter, right? He hit me and this is what he said.

I said, I'm mad this came out. He hit me. He sent it. I'm mad this came out. He said, nah, fuck all that. This shit is gold. He said, that punch came from Georgia. The nigger said, bro, take her from a nigger who punch.

He said, bro, that form was spot on. The UFC fighter hit me. So keep it by. And also. Also, also, a professional. Yeah, fair. And all you guys out there, all you people that were saying that the fight didn't happen. Yeah, that's at least.

At least. I don't know why people would think I would be a part of anything fake. Well, we see videos. You know how people think. No, but that was definitely crazy. And China Mac fight. And we don't know the fight. I thought that was a fake fight.

Confirmed. But we sent videos of them actually don't punch it. So like, it's so like it could be fake. Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay. You're right. It could have been fake. Yeah. Well, listen, AD said, and it was real, so I still think it's real, but people that say in this fake.

Well, speaking of AD, Flacco, there's, you're, you know, you're in some controversy as well, brother. Okay, what's no controversy? T. rel exposed you as the mole. Oh, shit. He ain't really exposed him. He said you was the most. T. T.R. Exposed Flaco.

That's what you want. He said that the information. about the cipher being leaked, the big deal appearance. Oh, shit. Let's not going to the reunion. This why he's not about my friend, job. Is that true or?

No. Why did T.R. Why did T.Rail say that? No, T.Row said or what? I think it was the MacWap. No, uh-uh. It was the Macwap shit, which is. That too.

The Macwap. Yeah, that was another. Yeah, which is, again, Macwap was coming. I didn't want to do the, Lush and Marvelous shit, which is common and like a pair, right? I said, bro, what questions

should we hit them with, you know, you know, that were making me film kind of, you know, uncomfortable. Wait, wait, wait, wait. That's telling, though, bro. What? What?

You ask T. That's telling. What? What questions should we ask, Matt? Yeah. That's stupid. Bro.

That's Flocko. That is generally hell of stupid, Flaco. But if the goal is, right, we're bringing Macwop here to talk about It's T. REL. The fourth, what?

I fuck with T-Rill. Yeah. But I'm saying, I wouldn't call that, nigga, and say, what question should me and Adam ask MacWy? What question? And that's the question that I got was, yo, listen. But you came on AD, said you ain't come on TRI? Right?

Without. I wouldn't have, have, like, known to ask that, you know what I mean? And look, and I do get that part because, look, but the reason why the Marble is, Marvelous was originally supposed to come on the No Jumper show. Yeah. And the reason he didn't is because it got leaked that he was coming on. And that happened because I was talking, I was asking people for like research and questions.

I talked to. You got to know that. And then you got to look. This is common sense, right? I get that. If I'm sitting at the crib. Yeah. Let me just walk y'all through this.

If I was part of that, right? I'm sitting at the crib, niggins. And I'm thinking, what the fuck do I ask McQuah? I know Macquot fuck with T-Rill But like I also know that like Adam don't fuck with T-Roe And I know they have been beefing

For the last two years, right, right So like I can't possibly call him to act And MacWop's don't fuck with T-Rell They don't fuck with each other like that And that's the point with Even if he does though That's still stupid Because if he does fuck with him

That means he's now going to be mad when he comes So he's probably going to blow the whole scene publicly or just Just him having the information, you know what I'm saying? Like just me putting myself in them shoes of that whole situation. T. What, though, right? I might go watch back on fig or something. Yeah.

But I'm not going to call him. Hey, hero. That's like a warning. Nick, that's like the Germans is coming to shore. The Americans is coming right now. No, but like that's not a secret. No. Wait, though.

How? I'm pretty sure. Even if it wasn't a secret. Yeah. I mean, look, the one part. I never- He probably's not supposed to know this is T-Rail. I don't really see that, right?

If you hear- here's why, yeah. Yeah. If I'm Adam, bro. I never told T-Rot don't send him, right? Me, I don't give a fuck about none of this shit. I ain't involved in this piece. I don't give a fuck.

But I'm just saying, if I'm Adam, the last Nick I want to know right now that I'm about to interview the nigga he gave me to a wit. That's like, that's like somebody. I don't want, I don't want T-R-R-to- know. If I'm Adam. Yeah.

That's like someone from O'block being like, yo, I'm about to slide on 63rd real quick. Let me call the... Yeah, let me call Vaughn and ask him how to get in and out that motherfucker. Let me call someone from Jarl to see how I'd slide on 63rd. No, look, right?

No, look, right? Look, right? No, no, no. And you call 600 to figure out how to slide on freshman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, look, let me call them 600 niggins to figure out how to hit the O. Right. I feel like, no, look, I feel like a better example, right,

is this, right? Yo, listen. You comment, right? And I'm like, damn, okay. We're like, again, like, I'm trying to I need questions on the almighty. He's coming at 3 p.m. No, no, no, no, right?

That's stupid. No, look. No, no, no, no, right? So look, right? Again, if MacGWad is coming, right, my whole thought process is, hey, yo, there's been a huge divide going on, right? Now, again, and he could come and we can ask,

what's your issue with T.R. And he could just say, what, bro, like, what got the issues right? blah, right? Escape past it. To fully know what to ask him, hey, yo, where the things go wrong with you guys? How did this happen? Why

did he hear no more? Who told him to like, like, stop coming? Don't like... I get that, but couldn't you have done that without being like, yo, he's coming on Adam's podcast. He's coming on no jumper. Couldn't you have got that information in a more like subversive slicker way?

But look, you got also... How was like, was like, what like called? I just start asking. say, hey, yo, what's up with this? I mean, yeah. Yeah. Fishing. Go fishing.

Yeah. That's exactly what you should. If you're going to do this messy shit, you got to be smart and you got to be a little more conniving. What? That's exactly what you probably should have did. Right. Caught that nigga.

Hey, bro, what's going on? Yeah, because like, yeah. Give a little small talk. You feel what's going on. Should I'm thinking about coming on. You want to come on to my shit. X, Y, Z. I'm going to drop a video.

But, man, God, what's going on with you and old boy? I see y'all got a little smoke right now. Yeah. You didn't know how to get a little doubt. You could have been like... And we put out that day on that 3-prem, give me some questions. You could have been like, yo, that video of me roasting macwap just popped up. Remember when you fucking Etherd Macwark?

Yeah. Like, you could have been like, oh, that... It might have been a little more come out, brother. Right? Because I think what? Or like the Monday show, right? Yeah. Right?

When I was asked about like the Macwob and Torel shit, I said, bro, I don't know a lot about this, right? You feel me? Right? I know videos on YouTube about this? About no, listen. Like, you know, this little niggas, all kind of, I don't want to say I'm on a period. I don't think folks. It's all kind of little small channels that be making little, you know, a video on what's going on about the whole little.

Nah, on here, though, right? Or go to Reddit, go to a nigga, anything. Yeah. You feel me? You could have, you could have easily hit a Reddit and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, you didn't have. Maybe it was a mistake. , that was a mistake. , no, no, no, no, it was a mistake.

Even if he didn't know it was a mistake, that was definitely a mistake. No, with the right, here, right, when I've caught here, right, when I've caught Roto, Josh is like he got something to say. We just want to know how long there's been the mall because this is just one incident. You're right. That also opens that, that also opens the fuck out. There's been a mole for a while. But when I caught Tirold, though, no.

Damn, I don't know why I didn't think of that. That also, that adds off another scenario. I love you, Flogne. That means you bend the tunnel. But when I caught Tirold, though, like, I really. even see this as some type of like secret of shit, which is... How do you not see?

That's why we need to, like, really like dissect your brain. I never told him, hey, bro, don't say nothing. No, I said, bro. You're smart, bro. What really asks him to get him to tell us why he didn't think that that's a problem? That's what I'm saying, flaco.

You've done so many... You've done so many prep work for so many things. That's why I don't think you're this stupid. I think he's just lying. He's not. He's not. He's not stupid. You're not stupid.

You're not stupid, bro. Listen. You're like one of the smartest people I know. Yeah, bro. Like, come on. Listen, right. Listen, though, right? Wait, though.

If I thought it was something to hide, I would have told him, bro, don't tell anybody, right? I said, bro, just tell me, you, what to ask me? Right? Right. Because, again, though, why, like, I never asked him like that to tell anybody because I didn't really, like, see it as something to hide? It's just, this is on the heels of the entire fig community umbrella alluding to the fact that there's been a mole. from no jumper this entire time. There's a lot of speculation.

Yeah. Was it brick? Was it sharp? But like, is it flaco? Most of the things that I knew, like, none about though.

Well, like, you are, the reason why I think you got brought up the most is because you fuck with everybody. You cool with them. No, true. I never talk to those guys.

Yeah. Adam don't talk to those guys. You know what I'm saying? Well, just don't really talk to those guys. Hair, right? Yeah, right? True.

Right. But, like, for example, right? Like, again, like, I guess, I don't, I don't, I don't see... No, no, no, right? Again, right? Right, like, again, half the most of the things that I wasn't even involved with, right?

Two is this, though. I guess I'd never seen it as like, yo, hey, bro, Matt God was coming. Water some things I can ask. And then, too, why ain't he here no more? Who told him to stop coming, right? Again, if I thought it was something to be significant about, I would have told you to a bro, don't tell anybody because I just never thought it was something to, you know, like something to hot.

Do you think that there's potential that there's someone else who is the mold? Do you think it could be like Wack 100? Do you think Wack 100 leaked the suspect Lush fight? The what the again, again, like why I don't feel, feel like. Because he would have had it on his platform. He would have showcased it. Again, I don't feel like Wack has the information because Wack would have just put it on like his like for me. For me, this is what I think that's why people like that's why people.

I think that's why people think that you are the no-jumper of Fign Unity mole. There is, listen, listen, this is the stand, bro. There is no more, even, like, for example, right, when, saying there is no mole is something a mole with a- Yeah, I think, listen, right? For example, right, right, right, look, right, look, right. Entire underground tunnel systems that pop up in the Big Unity Studio. Hey, here, right, no, right, so look, right, look.

So here's why me personally, I don't feel, feel, feel, feel, feel like there's a more. Because, again, we even said, yo, there's a community more when there was not no more, right? They did seem to have a lot of information. No. Wait, though. We said that there was a mole on there and feeding us information when, when, when, when, like, there was not a more. Right. So, like, we, bro.

Who was feeding us in from? When did we say that? Adam said it here. And there was a whole thing of them, the, you know, the, them like Kusing Trevor and Europe yeah but yeah right

bro again me personally I don't think think think like there's a more per se right but yeah brother again you're he might have been a I don't think so bro yeah

early on sharp was them all oh I can see that too he was for sure he was Gina told me 100% he was and a hundred

after shit though it came out was around that time where again whoa wait hold Let's, we don't want to glance over this. He was. This takes the heat off of you a little. That's all my kids.

He was. I called it as a, bro. You know, I don't remember when Gina went up there and said somebody to Moll up there and it ain't suspect? Yeah. She wasn't being funny. Yeah. He wasn't being funny.

She said that on back on feet. Yeah, she did. She said, there's a mole up there and it ain't Flocko and it ain't suspect. She was not being facetious. I'm in the mall. It's been me this whole time. Not being facetious. That nigger will call over there like a bitch and run his whole mouth.

And here's why, though... I can call her right now. Yeah, yeah. That's not a... I'm just saying, like, you know? No, no, no, no. But, nigga, that's 100% facts.

That's true. Yeah, right? That's the job. Bro, bro. Now, I'm not, I'm not saying that he wasn't also calling. No, but, again, no. I don't know what he was doing,

but I'm just saying... Did you realize now that? Again, no. If I thought it was meant to be secretive, I would say, yo, it's like off the record. No, nigga. I just called because, because, again, I'm interviewing.

with somebody. And that's why we got to break down your brain. It's about your shit. Bro, bro, give me information to ask about. How do you think that interviewing somebody who has been

continuously on the back of it, like, look, there, I would guess that, that you could definitely call that the No Jumper universe. Yeah. But like,

they are in their own galaxy of the No Jumper universe, right? Yeah. And I'll say, like, you feel me, this, Earth, just the Milky Way. They're still in his universe, but they're somewhere else, right?

Yeah. The figure who ain't never traveled to this section of the galaxy. Yeah. He's fin to pull up. That other side of the galaxy, damn near beef with everybody over here but a very small few.

Me and you. Yeah, true. A nigga is talking about getting his spaceship and coming to the fucking Milky Way and the first thing you do is call the niggins in the other galaxy and say, can you teach me how he going to land here? He asked to-

What the fuck? He has to cling on. How is that not a say? You asked to cling on how to land on the Star, the Starship Enterprise. How many metaphors I got to use? Why did MacWop stop coming and on, like, the Monday show? Why?

Again, there was... Why don't you just ask him? We did. And MacWop said, oh, I'm busy, right? No, no, but we do. But we do. But we do. No, bro, this, this, this, this, this, this.

But, but, like, we did research online and figured out it was because he had that he had... That he got into it with Heather. He had girls on it. But that was a big part of it. He had girls on his platform. Even that's the full story, though. So what's the full story? Right?

I'm sure you could have went on Reddit, bro. If I was something. Nick, how do motherfuckers be solving Chicago murders on Reddit? I guarantee you, you could have went on some Reddit pages and scroll down all of it and found out. Or even just act in a smarter way. That's why they're saying that they think you're lying. Does it bother you? Does it bother you that T-Rail called you the No-Jumper Mall?

Again, I did not hear it right? hair, right? Again, right? If I was the mole, he wouldn't reveal his, his, like, source, right? Again, I don't think there's a quote-unquote more because we said there was a mole

on their end too, and there was not, right? It's both sides trolling each other heavily. Again, why he said that I called him at Bob McAfow was because I never thought it was something to be, and I was working about it was a fucking interview. I asked him, bro,

why did he leave the for Monday show, right? You feel me? Right? Because again, when MacWab came and we asked him questions, we said,

no, bro, I love Tira. I'm just busy. I got a job. I got a business run, right? He said it in a very sly, somewhat dismissive way.

He was being facetious? Not facetious, but he was being like, and if we have information, you know what I'm saying? He was doing, I wish him the best. It was one of those.

Right, right, right. Like, yeah, he came Taylor Swift. He came very Taylor Swift. Yeah, that's what I call that. When that niggas come PC, they come Taylor Swift. Yeah, straight T-Sweezy. Yeah, right. Yeah, but again, bro, like, yeah.

I don't really see the more narrative, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I say Taylor Swift, when it's a man, I'd be like, oh, oh, he put up like the Rock. Yeah, yeah, it's very good. The Rock don't never choose no sides and no politics, nothing because, you know, the alienate a big portion of his fan base. That's where he'll never go into politics because, like, he weren't the most fan people. Yeah, exactly.

But the men that you choose the side, so you just have to be, a habitual just middle liner. You never really pick a side. And then when you do, you got to backtrack because it fucked your fan base up. So they're real well media trained. Habitual fans riders. He came up here and rocked out.

Yeah. But even not so much fence riding, he just, I think that's so much a, I think that's a play even more. That's a I want to come over here and I can get some of y'all fan bands. And I ain't even going to really say too much.

I think the smartest person in the whole situation is him. No, he's definitely smart for that. I think he's smart. So, would you acknowledge at this point that that maybe wasn't the best course of action to obtain the information? Before you answer that, do y'all think that that was on some like, nigga,

do y'all think that and the people on this side's head is MacWap was going to come over here and bleed some information that we didn't know and that it was going to be like gold content? Like, was that like the consensus? I didn't think so. Or y'all really just wanted to like have a conversation with things.

I was trying to truly instigate some shit I guess some real answers. Right, right, right, right. So Maddow came in, media trained like a motherfucker. That means he, he won. That means he won. Yeah. He came out, if that's the case where a nigga called him over here, like, oh, this is going to be the one.

Yeah. Did he come over there, a nigga, and just get fans and don't frame nothing? No, but it's more than that, though. It won, game. No, but it's also, it's more the flex of. And then it's worse because you caught the nigga and blew the whole thing. But it's also I'm trying to give the information.

It's a flex on no drumper to have, bro, over here. You're right, you're right, you're right. But I think even with that dub, I think Maxv still won more. Yeah, yeah, but the thing is, I think he won the most because he didn't even really have to, he didn't even come over here

and say too much if I'm not mistaken. I didn't watch it. No, he didn't. What you said? He didn't even say nothing. So he came over here, did say shit, people watching, people who didn't know who he was.

They know exactly who he is now. And he didn't even really have to go away. He's no sweat bullets though, right? Because again, when he said, oh, no, listen, I'm just busy. I'm just busy. Right? Right. And then I said, hold on, bro.

You went on AD. You should not too hard. Hold on, bro. Wait, hold up, bro. Um, um, oh, God, bro. Oh, God, bro. Oh, you went on your stream and said, if you needed clout, you would get clout from schoolboy, Q and Kendrick and I teery around him.

And that was, and again, and he got pissed off. That's a huge flex. right there. And he got pissed off, though, because T.R. That's putting your dick on the table. No, no, no, no. So he got pissed because Teryl and smack was talking about how, how, like, how, like, they aren't, like, higher-ups.

They sort of need the plan for a blind, you feel me, right? You feel me? And that was, like, the real true genesis of, I'm not fucking with this shit no more, right? Oh, he tried to be, like, Macwap ain't a decision maker. He ain't got, like, okay, he, he an employee, smacks his boss. Yeah. Okay. Right.

And he probably not going for that because he already got money because he's a Td-D-J. Correct. So he don't got to do that. Right. Like, yeah. He had his own. That's what that'd be. Yeah.

If a nigga got money, they don't really have to do certain things. So that's the, so what you pointed to. It's just enough to do what they want to do already. That's the true original origins of the dysfunction. Yeah, right. But do you think also it's possible that people were starting to feel threatened because he was gaining popularity over there?

Bro. Hair, right? Listen, a little bro. like I feel like the thing is like like that like that bro like like like like like like this isn't really war this is listen are people like kind of didn't you go back over there after yeah bro no not not war between yeah no jumper and them i'm saying no no no no no bro this is what are you talking about this podcasting shit is fucking high school i don't feel popularity contest it's who's at the fucking cool table i don't feel that that's the i mean right sounds good here

I'm wrong. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I don't feel like anybody, bro, it's truly going home when I say, bro, this nigga here is getting too popular, bro. How can, like, like, like, like,

like, my, mine don't work like that, bro. They know? Yeah, they do. I guarantee you right now, nigga, because you are hating ass, nigga. Nah, not me, though, man. I'm gonna break it down for you. You are a hating ass nigga.

We know that you bleed, hate out your pores. You sweat, hate. Four rappers, though. Hidding ass nigga, right? Now, you got to look at it like this. Because this happened to me... For gang members. This happened to me

when I first came in the game, right? Now, you'll come in with somebody who were a little bigger than you already. A little more, no. You feel me? Yeah, true. You slowly start to get your shit established with this whole time.

They look at you like... The competition. Not even not like a little brother, like I'm over you. Yeah, I'm saying. Like a protege. I'm saying. I'm bad man, you're Robin.

You know what I'm saying? Then there's Robin's fart to turn in the nightwing. Yeah, exactly. You know, first you turn in a bigger Robin, and then he's... turn in a night wing and then he go get his own city, he's still buckled to you, y'all still locked in. But he's starting to get a little too big.

And that man, he's a scratch his head and be like, he's Superman. Right. I don't know. I don't really know if I'm fucking with Robin turned in a nightwing. Now he at Bell Haven and shit. Like, I don't know if I'm feeling it. You feel me? A nigga gets a hole in the nigga back. You know, hey and a little small shit like that. So I don't think that's

out of reach for somebody to, when you start off as bigger in a certain scene, then somebody starts to gain a little notoriety. And then you over them and then you start to get jealous. I think when you're not a real nigga, those things happen to you. I'm not saying that. There's that.

And then there's the other side of that where like, let's say, look at Lil Wayne. He put on Drake. Drake wound up being significantly bigger than him. He never tried to restrict Drake's growth. He never tried to hold him back. He was like, God, hey, shoddy. You feel me? Yeah.

That's how you're supposed to be. That's how you're supposed to be. Like, I pray, I'm fucking hope and pray, Zay get bigger than me. You feel me? That'd be the best thing to happen to me, shit. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They get bigger to me.

That me, nigga, when I drop I'm out of here too. But that is, but that is rare, though. And I can retire too, too. There you go. I hope and pray that nigga get bigger than me. Please. Please go stream his shit. Because Bibby.

You know what I'm saying? You've got to think like that. We retired off a Juice World. Juice World. Then he had fucking Kid LaRoy and fucking for a while. I just never bought the Killar Roy stock, though. Well, yeah, me neither. I never heard a Killaroy song at my life.

No. But he definitely had, he definitely had some hits. for a second. It was like... You know, who's the other one, man? With being adjusted Bieber. Yo, yo, oh my God, you're like, who's the other, like... Red Cross McMillow?

No, man, like, there's this kid with, like, a box head. This, this white boy. Oh, my God. No, man. Yo, I also see, like, the Rugrats shit. I think I, I just seen an interview on, like, the front porch he

grew up in. Yeah. The over... Just the... Just the over, like, trying to, like, over-show. I'm from this place, it's starting to come off a little nasty to me. I mean, why? He's from there.

Yeah, but, like, for example, right? Like, like, for example, I can look at, let's say, like, Suss, right? And say, ah, Suss ain't from L.A. Right? He probably, right? Like, he don't need to, like, you know, to make that his entire identity.

Rug right, entire identity is. You do you say I'm not from L.A.? No, no. I can say, right, yo, suspect is from L.A. He's from here. He, right? He doesn't need to fucking... Yeah, like, get like an LA forehead tattoo.

Or you're a fucking morgue. But I'm not white either, though. Yeah. And that's the point. And if I was white and niggas, but you got to realize, though, that... But now, look, I understand it because on a smaller scale, when you like skin and you're around these certain things,

a nigga, be like, man, I ain't gonna say too much, but when I first start fucking with a certain neighbor, but, nigga, they equate you with the other side. because you're a light skin nigga. And most of their options is light skinned. Exactly. For whatever reason. You know what I'm saying?

So then a nigga would be like, ah, no, you're a light skin, nigga, you're going to be from over here. Like, ah, no. So then now you got to overcompensate. You got to do the most. Now, if anything, crack off, I'm the first nigga to swing.

I'm the first nigga to do anything because I'm thinking in my head, these niggas think I'm a bit. I got to go up soon as something happened. I got to be the first one. Gang-banger colorism. I got to be the first one. I swear that's what it is.

I got to be the first one to crack off because the nigga automatically think you the soft-skinned, so you gotta crack it off immediately. So I understand on a bigger scale for him, he white. So when he's in his neighborhood, his nigga, he's thinking these niggins think I'm some bitch-ass, wife, but I gotta show these niggins. I'm like that with him.

So I'm not mad at a nigga over-compensating if he truly means it. You know what I'm saying? I'm mad at a nigga over-conversating when he just pop up. You know? Yeah. But if he, nigga, he has to, he had to be able to stand around there.

He had to over-compensate just to even be able to stand next to them people. That's what you got to understand. For him to even, even be able to stand out there with them, niggas. He had to overcompensate. You know? But you can't really fault him for the overcompensating to show y'all because

he's doing the same thing that he had to do to get his name there out in the world. Because he's a white boy from the hood, so he got to show y'all he's not, he's not acting because a lot of white boys, like a nigga like Ian. Even though Ian's not really acting like he from the hood, he'd be rapping like he do, but he's not, but he don't do his shit. That's why

I like Ian. But like maybe that's not, maybe that's not a good example. Maybe somebody at odds. Because Ian either, because Ian sort of does like Because I like Ian. He hard. No, bro. Like, so, like, and he does is like bastardization, right? Like, meaning this, right?

Like menstrualization? No. No, no, no, no. So for Ian is, is, he gets on, on, like, on, like, this, like, super hard Gucci main beats, right? Yeah. And then make, like, the cover picture of his album. Right. Him dressing up in the most preppy white boy should, meaning, bro.

Yeah. That's not your character. You don't dress up in no preppy way. But you're doing that. Oh, sucks. Look at me. This goofy white boy on trap. He's like, like, that shit just pointed to me as well. I get what you're saying.

But that's the whole point of it. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's the whole point of it. You know what I? Like, okay. Yeah, like he's a frat white boy jumping on Gucci Main Beach. Yeah, yeah. He's like, he's like young gravy.

Yeah, he's a fratty white boy. Yeah, but he's not a friday white boy. Yeah, yeah. You can tell. The people you mean with, they, they white boys, you could tell. Like, he's just like a regular white boy from the suburbs. Yeah, that's a fratty white boy. That's a friday white boy.

No, no, the frat boys is like the polo teas, like the cargo chagons. The carrigans. That's a different kind of frat white boy. I'm talking about nigger like a stifler. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a frat boy I'm talking about. Stifler not wearing a polo and frat. No, nigga they're getting drunk.

Nicky they listen in the black people music. Jackass. Yeah, like jack-as. Like, they make them is frat white boys. They just do hard drugs, so they're a little more edgy. Right. But when I'm saying frat boy, I'm not saying prep because all frat white boys is not some of the parents be rich but they just

be acting like they completely don't connect to that culture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you can't even like, you know what I'm saying? Like you can't say like oh, well they're a Friday. Nah. Nah. Because nigga, frat white boys, I ain't gonna lie. He's definitely, he's definitely like a Friday white boy. It's just wrapping on. Look, like, in reality

with a lot of white artists like the image is going to determine a lot. Like the Georgiana chick, I thought the best move that she made so far is that one joint she has where it's all like fucking like a lounge song and they have her in a dress like in like it's completely different

the whole vibe and all that is gonna fucking take off that's her biggest song too hey listen though like she's blowing her moment though right like she um like she needs to learn how to rap you did a song with L'Oreala and she's blowing her moment she's going crazy no you can't look she needs to learn how to rap it's hard to tell somebody that they need to learn how to rap

when they already blew up off not learning how to rap you know what I'm saying that's like I make it to, that's like telling Sean Marion change his shot. No, why would he? He made it to the NBA with a stupid ass shot. Why the fuck I'm a change? Right, like, for example, right? Like, here, for example, even like, like, on the song,

where I would like, like, like, Glorilla. Yo, like, she was getting, like, like, bro, you could just see, she doesn't know the art of, like, putting, you know, like the, like the bars together yet, right? She can't, she can't rap as good as Gloria. I'm not saying that you're wrong, but you got to look at it like, you got to look at it like,

why does she have to when people are listening to? But I also feel like she has it. But she's being clown now for that shit, though. Yeah, but she was getting clown when she first started. People get clowned when they have edgy contemporary styles. You know what I mean? And she has a really edgy contemporary style. That's kind of like that people's ears have.

That's what I liked it when I heard. Me too. Me too. Yeah, yeah. I see where it's going. I can see why people like better have a traditional. boom bap sensibilities be like all this bitch is trash but in reality even not people who just like cookie cutter radio music yeah yeah they'll think that shit is horrible they think that's just

weak yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i think that's your ass like yeah bro i'm not playing that shit they think they think like they think like nudie is hard to listen to even which is crazy yeah which is crazy it's crazy no hair bro like for example right yo like hair oh bro like for hair right like you could be like for example right like you could be like for example, right? Again, shut up my guy, JP, right? I feel like Georgiana is sort of on like the JP run

opposed to like the Ian run, which is like Ian, like he's... Are you saying JP done? No, he's not done. That's kind of what he just said. That's what he just said. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, sorry. B, like, more so of like the internet, you feel me, you know, like, you know, like the internet... Because look, it's so funny that you say that.

I was just sitting at the of smoking and I was like I ain't seen that niggott dancing across my screen and like phone up he's in school too right so right so again so wasn't he always in school? Yeah true no but again he's in one right now though right

right Yeah yeah not like here right like he still does like one million view right but like I'm saying though like you can be like the internet like artist you know or you could be like an end where you have broke through the mainstream I see Frank all the time

Yeah Frank all the time but I don't be seeing J.P. You feel me? Hey, listen, those are my guys, I love him. But, yeah, you could, again, Georgia, right now, it's on a versus being an internet artist. Yeah.

You sort of want to be like a Ian, right? Where, again, like, you go viral just off of, like, the Instagram rapping shit, and then by the time we know, you, you know, a mainstream artist. Look, hear me out. When your sound is real progressive, it's hard to go mainstream.

Yeah. You got to realize that. They'll realize how good you are later. Yeah. And I had to come to time with that myself. Yeah. They'll realize how good you are later. That's how it be.

Like, because I ain't going on right now. I'm on a something. And they'll realize how good it is letting. Unfortunately, people, a lot of times it takes... Sometimes they never do. And sometimes take a long time after you're gone. That type of issue. You know what I'm saying?

But sometimes when something is so far, and I'm not even saying this is her. Yeah. I'm just saying sometimes something is so, is so like ahead of what it is, like people will realize how good it is later. Um, okay, so... You know, all of us were kind of held to the fire.

in different ways a day. We normally have a fourth co-host to our show, right? Yeah, Brick not here. Brick not here. Brick not the tricks. I saw our brother. Brick was called out to a fade

by Taya F third. Oh, shit, yeah. Bro, those dudes talk on the phone for an hour, and it was all good. And then, bro, listen, y'all. What happens to be going around? What happened?

I didn't know. What? Again, though. What? That's how shit gone. Again, and on the phone, though, Tay did tell Brick, hey, listen, you bled me publicly, I, you know,

I still got to give my get back, you know, but, you know, but we're still good. That's what Tate said. That's what Brick said. No, Tate said that on the phone of, hey, listen, you bloody publicly, bro, said like, you know, like.

We said he wasn't a popular. I'm not popular. I'm not sure of that, blah. So, like. He did say he wasn't a popular record. So, like, we squashed it, bro. It's good, but I still got to just get my money from me. You know, like, you know, like, you know, like, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you're saying, that's, you know, like, you're saying, yeah, he's just saying, it's, what you just say, it's what you just said. And the clip title, though, is misleading. What he said was, for example, if you know, like, the history, right?

Brick said that when the thing with P. Nice and D.W. was going on, right? Him and 6 or 7 Unc was in a podcast together. And 6 or 7 Unks said, yo, why don't you just fight one of their low homies? You feel me? Right? Well, sorry, but I'm a low homie.

Well, you know, just... Size, like in your size range. Because fucking P. Nice and D.W are both significantly bigger. Right? Yeah, right. Yeah, right, right? And T.F. 3 got bought up. Then on this, then on the Thursdays up pretty well.

Right. And then on the Thursday show, Brick said, like, Tay is who they got for him. So he was responding back to that saying, bro, again, if a fade is, was needed, bro, for us a squatch, bro, we can just fade. Right? But then the clip title, y'all clickbaited it and said, T. After Thay, Cawr called out to a fade when he was just responding back to a, hey, Brick's saying, and on this show that, Tay was who they had, like, had, like, had to, like, come and fade him, and that he would, like, kind of, like, jack him up. So, Tay never said, like, like, what's up, Rick?

I need that. No. Let's run it. Okay. Because originally the first thing I seen him say was, like, come to Long Beach. It's all good. But he didn't mean it, like, in a confrontational way. And Brick misinterpreted it.

Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. I remember that. And that lots of Brooks sort of, like, say, you know, you suck. I will, like, grip you up, blah, blah, right?

and then they hopped on the phone and said, oh, no, bro, I was inviting you to the podcast. Not to know his shit. So then they squashed it. But then they said, bro, because you did it publicly, if I don't say nothing publicly, you feel me, you know, it'll look bad, right? So you just explained it again.

What you just said is he just called them on me. Just to say it. That's what you just said. In that long, drawn out of way. Taver did not want to fight him. That's what he's saying. That's what I'm saying. I'm fucking there. So this is not what I'm trying to.

He has not. I'm just trying to reiterate what you're saying without all the long. For no fade, though. That title is misleading. Oh, okay. So that's not what he said. So what was his response? And he said, bro, I feel like there's some figuring immosity, bro.

If it's that serious, bro, and you try to fame me, bro, then let's get it out the way. So that's asking for a fay. No, he's saying, again. That's asking for a fay, nigger. If I walk up in here, Flaco and tell you, I've been putting a little animosity around this motherfucking, if you need that, nigga. We can go handle that.

Let's get it. That's asking you for a fake, no, no, no, no. Let's get it out the way. Yeah, let's get it out the way. That's even more. That's telling you, I need that, come outside. And he's responding back to Brick's saying,

no, listen. That's word doing it. Yeah, let's get it out of the way, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And he's, no, look, again, you know. That's asking for a fay, brother. And he's responding to Bruce saying. Why can't we just watch it?

I don't want to hear you explain it. No, bro. You can't watch it? It's 10 minutes long. I don't try to watch that. Right? It ain't like no portion of it where he's saying. You got to watch the whole thing.

Bro, that's right? Because, like, again, like the clip is like 10 minutes long. I don't want to, you feel me? But. Flacco third. That's your new name. No, but again, bro, they talked on the phone for one hour, bro. There's no smoke.

Again. Hey man and break? Yes. That's what he said. Right. Right. Again, from my perspective, again, I don't, I didn't know there was still smoke because, you know, the beef was squashed.

You know, but... Then let it be. Yeah, let it be. No, but you, though, lush. What now? Listen, when Brits at Long Beach,

like, why are you bringing, like, the Long Beach up here? Yeah. And then you said, oh, oh, the insane crypts, and the virus, you sort of brought a whole new element into it that ain't need to be into it, right?

It could have just stayed at Long Beach, but when you sort of like, I think he was just saying, I was saying what it was. Yeah. What do you mean, bro? Yeah, but he really needs to like put an help into it. He might have sparsing him, but at that point,

you're just asking them to live. No, not only that. You're acting like Brick's fucking stupid and don't you see what's going on, bro. He's saying that he no, just don't say it because it'll spark. That's what he's saying. Yeah.

But like at that point, you ask him in the line. But it's in the middle. Because Brick also said, though, on the phone, this is not, again, is wasn't even no like insane crib shit. It was just with some, no, the few long beach niggas that I don't like.

But when you said the insane crip, like in like the midst of it, like, Brick didn't disagree like that. But that's when, when, Brick agreed. If he, yeah, that's what I'm saying. But he kind of had to, right? He could have disagreed.

He said exactly what you just said. Or he could have been like, shut the fuck up. White boy, you don't know what you're talking about. He wouldn't how many times I did check lush. Yeah, like. He could have said, nah, shut the fucker. You don't know what you're talking about. It's with.

a certain four individuals. Like you literally just said. That's not hard to say. And I wasn't insinuating that brick-ass beef with the insanes. That's not what it was. He's insinuated that everybody who gave up here that he has that disagreement with was insane.

And then the biggest was on the news was. So the whole issue over here. The whole Crip on Crip War that started over here in this fucking seat that I'm sitting in right now was between brick and D.W. right that's fucking neighborhood I think he just pointed out the obvious brother

yeah yeah and then but the one person though Brick has kind of issues with but but he brings no but he brings all the what do you mean P. Nice D.W. and those and shouts to the other omies

but they're not past that issue though yeah but don't like Brandon and Brandon is I'm not like just talking about Brandon Brandon Brandon he's oh my God he's he's like the super like

like just like just the guy the guy that like kind of yeah yeah wait wait hip hop Brandon not hip-hop. No, Brandon, who was here, you know, like, he did the debate of the guerrilla hip-oh.

Oh, that guy, that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Again, I didn't even know that, but that's the only person that Brick said, you know, that's what he was talking about. He from Long Beach, too? No, I think Brick was definitely insinuating

about the niggas on the news. Bro, he was talking about He was on the news. And you know, I fuck with viral. I fuck with Messiah. Those are the homies. You feel like. And Brick never brought up them, no.

He was talking about, He was talking about these things. You keep bringing up all, you keep bringing all these fools from Long Beach. Tate is co-host and Brandon. But that's, so five people from insane. Not just Long Beach.

No, Brin off insane. I'm not talking about Brandon. Hey, Ted is the only, listen. Talking about everyone else I just mentioned. Tay is insane.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, Tay is insane. His co-host are civilians. Brandon is from his hood. I'm saying when we talk to Brick

And he said, yo, the only person right that, you know... So what you're trying to say is he's not talking about DeVarraway, niggas. No, right? Or you bought... We had an hour of conversation. I was under the same way that he was.

No, no, no, no, no. They weren't for show a part of it. No, lush, look. Lush, bro, look. We talked to Brick for an hour about this. Brick said the person that he feels like there still needs to be a conversation before it's all good.

It was Brandon. was talking about like the big buff guy but why? Because Brandon said some things Bob Bricky said uh and on internet okay right but but but the Messiah he's still not wrong though and viral

he don't even have no no I don't think he it's not even about him having an issue it's about the optics like because what he says still makes it true he said Long Beach niggas up here yeah even if he wanted to talk about them he was still talking about it true and it's not just like it's the optics it's like I guess, and Flacco, you're so intelligent.

I know you can wrap your head around it. But, like, you're not being from L.A., I guess. Maybe you don't understand, like, why that optically would make somebody feels. Because you got to realize that, even if they don't have a problem with Rick, they from insane, they have to side with them regardless, so they got to, you know what I'm saying? After that public controversy. So even if they weren't, it just would feel some type of way. If I, look, if I get into it with somebody and then, like, all of a sudden,

one of my co-hosts slash friends like starts bringing in all of their partners that are from their same card I'd be like this is a little weird I would think it was weird I would think it was weird girl like you know what I mean like that's what not like weird like

in the insulting weirdo way but I would think it was odd you feel me like yeah and that was all my I would stop fucking with you fucker but but you know like they're not optional meaning they're not not you're bringing the insane's

Bro, break out of phrase for me. I'm not saying that. Of course. I'm just saying, you know. Yeah, right. When this niggas who I publicly sided with the, with the motherfuckers I was getting into it. Yeah. I now don't fuck with him.

I mean, that was his point, too. He said that that Taylor 3 had publicly said something. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He was under the, even if tear third meant it a different way. Yeah. He was under the assumption that he was trying to get at the internet, you know? Right, bro.

Right. Right. Hair. Even like with the hair, right, like with the taste shit, right? bro, when like Brick said it, did you know that Tandth and Brick had beef before? No. No.

That's why I was up here saying you'd be able to tantern. Nobody knew, right? And when it hopped on the phone and on the news, they talked as if they were like lifelong friends. So it's like, again, like half the shit that do go on, right? Right. Again, even here, right? Like, for example, right?

If Tay let's say mention Brick, let's say, on like his IG or on his, like, his, like, podcast, the masses of myself, we wouldn't have. have seen it, right? I, like, and brought up, like, Tay here because, because, one, you know, like, Tay is a dope podcast, right? I fuck with Tay. I've been trying to have Tay over here.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right. Taze my homie. Yeah. Tate's my homie. Right? And, bro, right?

And, hammer, hammer, hair, here, right? For example, right? Like, when Brennan came here, bro, bro, like, bro, again, though, like, we talked about the Trump, the Bible. We talked about. That's why I was asking you why that. bunch of shit. But that's why I'm confused.

So there's no way to know that these people are like enemies to somebody say, oh, I don't like them. But Brick said again, he has no issues with, you know, with those people. He just feels like, you know, like, again, with the Tay situation, he felt like Tay was publicly sort of like, you know. And this is like, and this is my biggest problem ever. I say things because I mean it. and then I wound up having to like, quote unquote, stand on business.

Like, so it's like I spoke on that because it was what I felt like needed is the elephant in the room. What? It needed that's why I made that comment about, that's why I was like, oh, it's because they offer him insane. Yeah. And he never brought the insane element into it. Even if it was implied, that took things to like hold a level now because I didn't think, wait, hold on like, brick got and issues like with the insane? No, right?

like we right no it's not it's not that that's already been like I whether or not I said that people would have already had that in the atmosphere because of the whole he was saying what people was thinking yeah wait a lot of question right sometimes you got to be that voice on a podcast that's it not have a question right I learned from you no no no look wait right because you would have said it as you was privy to it too I learned this might start a gang or this is not exactly right I'm trying I thought that was good podcasting right no no no Listen, sure, but that, but But like that right there

Cause a whole lot more I feel me right? When like it I caused the biggest gang war in the city Right when it was never about the insane It was about You know, you can put it on him But you also got to put it on

Brick for not saying no Yeah, because me and Brick are friends I was right I was sitting right here And I was telling the truth Even if I'm wrong I didn't feel no like No pushback for Brick when he was I didn't feel none

He said, yeah, I could be In fact, he said, yeah. That's if I'm not mistaken. I'm just saying. You can't put it all on him as I'm both for them. No, but also too, bro, like, one of like the biggest things been when it comes to LA, bro, it's just, bro, there's so much talent here, bro,

but the politics just get in. They run too deep, bro. Yeah. In a way of, bro, like, of a lot, feel me? You got to realize how big and how strong gang band culture is, right? Yeah. All right. The two kind of gangs that's across the whole nation.

Yeah. Well, you can say like, well, two kind because the Cripping the blood is the same kind of gang. LA gangs. Yeah, any kind. There's only two kind of gangs that's across the whole Chicago gangs and L.A. gangs. GDs.

GDs, BDs. Really, GD's. Really, GD.'s vice large bloods. Because GD.s are like, yeah. That's what I'm getting at. You know, some Chicago hood, that's all across the nation. That's all across the nation. You can't, and what's some of the two nations

across the city that's broken apart by gangbain beef the most. True. Chicago and LA. New York has it, but the older niggas don't even give a fuck about nothing. No, no, they're talking about sex money,

murder, B. The older niggas don't go to fuck them. It's, it's new ones that's still, you feel me, sex money murder, they back,

but they're in different clicks. 100%. So, you know what I'm saying? So if that bigger banner only matters so much when they go to jail. Right.

Here, the older niggies is still on that. They all following suit. So, you know what I'm saying, there's still somewhat of a structure, but I'm just, saying all that to say right the two of some of the most prominent structure as far as the gang wise across the country niggins they're here this is embedded in the not to mention

the answer you feel me that too even outside of that you know like yeah there's there's gonna be Mexican games wherever I'm just saying like how strong the culture is how there's there's structures that started directly like you know what I'm saying there yeah there's the serenio hood like all across the country what there's 18 streets and shit like that but I mean like nigga it's down there every set. You got some kitchen somewhere, you got neighbors, you got hoovas, you got every single kind of gang here and got a set somewhere else.

Not to mention, put it like this. Same with GDs. The Crips were founded in 1969, bro. The Crips are older than hip-hop. Crips and Bloods are older than hip-hop. Wait, lush, right? Look, what question, right? So, again, let's just say, right, that you don't like T-Rot, right? But that now means that...

I like T-Row. No, no, no, sure. Right. I said that it runs too deep for niggas to just be able to get over these policies. These politics are so strong that it sparked the whole nation of gangbanging. Yep.

That was my own point. Here, right, for example, right, listen to this, right? If you and T.R.R. don't get along. Right. You then don't just automatically say, yo,

all hovers don't like me and I'm not trying to, you know, right? No, no, no, but... That's not how that works, right? Yes and no. Are you gang banging? Like, really gang banging? Yeah, it is.

Now, when it's up here, it's a little different, but it's like once it becomes, like, all right, just one, and then it becomes two. Yeah. And then it's like, all right, one says that something, and then, like, another two came up here and stuff. Now it's looking like you beef with the half of them. You know what I'm not?

Yeah, exactly. It's like, it becomes a little. They said nothing, though. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, sorry, right? Right, right? Right. And that's where, like, a lot of this, like, came life to life from far left field, right? Because, again,

because prior to, like, that, provide way he never spoke on Britain. Right? Right. again. You sure about that? Yeah, right? I don't know.

You're sure about that. What? You sure he didn't. Something bad? I'm just asking. By the way's the homo. Yeah, no, right? Now, tell yes, right?

No, but to La Pratchett after, right? Again, it was podcasting. You know, we talk about, you know, let's say like Drake King's up, right? Now, what if, hypothetical? I don't know if this is true. What if they didn't? You just didn't see it?

Yeah, that's what I think. What are they say? Hypothetically. What if they did, but you just didn't see it? I know, I know you watched their... Brooke never seen it then, right? Because Brick said, probably not. Probably not.

Probably not. Right? Right. Right. Right not. Fair enough. I do not digress. I agree with that.

Because he said that I have no issues with the viral and Messiah. He's talking about Tay and Brandon. Yeah. You feel me? So it's like, hey, listen, bro. So is Brandon friends with all those guys? Yeah. Well, just Brandon, like, bro, listen, bro, like he's like, yo, like he's,

Like, he does the street stuff, but he's not even any streets no more. Like, he's, like, a business owner, like, right? Like, he does, like, the debates now. So, like, he's, like... How old is Brandon? He's, like, I don't know, like, a mid-30s, right? Okay, and that's what I'm saying. And that's why, like, earlier when you were talking about.

You, oh, lush, you're from here. You're fucking 43 years old. Most of the fools that I was active, like, pushing lines with when we were kids, they're fucking have families and jobs. and jobs and I'm not even thought about... But Brandon ain't going to diss nobody and bring up a hood, though, right? Like, he's...

Look, you got to realize, too, that certain of these... You got to realize that there's also a lot of L.A. hood that are extinct. Yes. And there's some... Yes. Hell yeah. I can show you a whole list.

I'll give you a whole list right now an L.A. hood that kind of don't exist no more. Damn. That don't mean to be disrespectful. I don't want to hurt feelings for you know. And there are some hoods that are not as prominent as they used to be. There's some hood that get smaller. or that's some hood.

There's a lot of time where they turn into other they turn into otherhood. That was what I was going to say next. And I'm not saying that's your hood. Eastside Hustler Crips no more. But people transfer to other things. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not saying that this is your neighborhood

or if it is or if it's not. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying that, nigga, things changing people with hood a lot. Some hoods, like a hood like 6-0, Ingoa families, Hoover. And that shit didn't be in here forever and they didn't always been around.

You know what I'm saying? Type shit. Now, nigga, now a certain kind of hood that's smaller, like Lushes. Now that demographic can change drastically in 30 to 40 years where it would damn there look like a whole fucking different place.

100%. And that's what I was about to say. Like in the west side you want to know, like if one of my homies, it's harder to just be prominent inside place. If one of my homies has funk with somebody from a different set, like we all not fucking with them, bro. It's not like because it's too small.

It's too small. It's not like 6-0s where there's like thousands of members, bro. And there's different. Well, there's a couple hundred. Everybody are on the same consent. Yeah. You feel me?

Like everyone's going to move on the court. Wait, well, wait. And these demographics change when it's a smaller hood too, because it's like how you got to realize, right? Yeah, bro. Things change. And even if they don't get gentrified, motherfuckers are moving right there.

And it's like, where do y'all hang out now? Because nobody live here. Y'all all used to live on this block. That's why I became y'all hood. Now 10, 15 years changed. Niggas moved. New people moving here. Maybe one person.

If you're lucky still living there. And you're still kicking in the same alley. And then you got these young niggas from around the corner. They all got blocked. They all live right there. They all now your hood and now is damn there gone. Now as niggas spread out, niggas get older,

niggas go get family because it's different when your hood. Not a thousand niggas. Yeah, you get sucked into some shit where every hood day is 500 motherfuckers and it's a big ass function. Yeah, you probably never going to go nowhere. Of course. When it's a smaller hood, it's like, man, I'm 50. I'm 45.

I'm going home. That's what I'm, bro, and this is what I was... This is what I'm trying to... I'm not trying to shit on where he's from at all. Certain places are bigger. Certain hoods are smaller, even Black games. Like, you know what I'm saying? And usually when they're smaller, a lot of times,

you got to realize a lot of niggas taper off. You feel me, that go out of the places, they go do other things when you older. Every hood ain't like these big-ass L.A. hoods or like these Compton hoods or... Exactly. There might be small. Like, like...

And watch, it's still three... Three-generation families. My homies, if you ask anybody in Westfield... LA, they know the fuck they are, and they know that they've stood tall for a long time despite a lot of obstacles without getting to. Lush. Lush. Okay, so, like, who don't you like, like, who don't you like?

Like, who's like, like, like, a guy you hate? Who gangbank? A guy who I hate her gangbanks? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, like, yeah, like, who don't you like?

Well, there is this one guy I didn't like, but now I'm about to be in this, he in this bond load right now. Who? You see, though, that's gay banging right there, right? You just said, said, bro, that, like, you are smoking on somebody right now. Who are you working out? You see? He's strong.

Ooh. He must be doing push-ups up there. Ooh. No, I'm just playing. See, no, that's in love. You just dissonbody, like, like, that homie. No, no, I don't dislike nobody, bro. I ain't got no gang beef.

My little, you know, my younger homies, they get into it with fools that got, you know. Yeah. You know, they've had little situations recently transformed. And I try to guide everybody on both sides of that, including my home. I would encourage them to just focus on paper. My homie's really about getting their paper, bro. Yeah, man. That's it.

Hey, bro, shit, you got to realize that shit is really different for smaller hoods. Like, every move has to be strategic because niggas don't got a real eye, bro. It's 2025. One wrong move and everything could be extinct. One wrong beef, everybody could be in jail and now what's the hood? Yeah. You get what I'm saying? You get into a real beep and 10 niggas start sliding.

What the fuck? What are you gonna do? Wait, wait. You gotta be smart with these things for real. Which is why we should promote though. With small hood, dog. No, which is why don't. Everybody got to jail and jail.

Free Joneser, you feel me. You know what the fuck going on. I'm saying hell of the niggas end up going to jail and then things start looking different. You know, which is why, though, I think is great, right? That Brandon and Viroway and Tay can come and podcast and talk about things that's outside of gay mangan.

And there could be no beef or anima. Right? Yes, Viral Way and Messiah are great. And I don't know Brandon, but what I've seen him, I'll say him as well. They are amazing podcasts. Great conversationalists. Yeah. Me, Viroe and Messiah, sat down with Tania, had an amazing pod.

And we need conversationalists and on the news. I agree. Right, right? Right. Like, and it's like, yo, you know, as long as they don't have issues, bro, I feel like that's great. As long as you're from insane, you could be on the news. not, man, right, right, like,

that's the criteria, huh? Hey, listen, be from insane, Carl Flacco. I go to you, listen. They get you up here. I go to YouTube and I seek out,

like, LA podcasters, right, for me? How do you do that? You type in LA podcast? No, uh, no, like, they all reach out to him at this point. No, I, you're like the fucking big homie of the podcast scene out here.

No, listen, I, typing keywords, right? Like, again, right, look, hair, Here, but for example, right, if I know less than the four extra and X-Fort shit is big, right, right, right. I type that in and just see, you know, like, do who, you know, for me. I do the same. Right?

They need to show Bro. I think Bro. Rogan. I think Brogan needs some more shots. I've never seen them up here. Uh? I've never seen a bro Rogan podcast. I've only seen it.

No, no, no, no. No. He, like, interviewed a few of people. Bro, I don't know why you guys stop doing the battle rap shit you guys are doing, because that's just. fire. The rappers hair suck, that's why. Bro. There's for sure Man, it's a lot of good talent, but you just got to find them.

And like, not, like, not even like, remembering, like, their verse having a do 20 takes, it's because it's kind of, yeah, that's it. So me versus Lilha B is like the Cassidy versus freeway of, uh, of the, your battle league? No. I think it was a, it was, um, like murder movers loaded Lux?

No, no, sorry. Baby Runner to me had the best. bros, you had second best. Oh, baby, I forgot he was, I see? That's what he should have been. It should have been me versus baby runner. And I might could have lost, but that would have been. Baby Runner is fucking sick, dude.

Yeah, man. I like, bro. Should we hit a couple of these little topics before we sky? Sure, man. So low baby Rico is apparently coming soon. So big meat's told on him. No, I'm just, not.

So what happened? That's hell of fuck, is this, okay? He didn't do the big meat show. Nah, but so here. So apparently Little Baby went to one of his opt to record a music video, right? And then the ops like spun back to shoot it up. And the aftermath of that is two kids under the age of 14 years old passed away. One was 13 years old for like 27 minutes.

That was a couple of months ago, right? Yeah, right. Now, cops are saying, hey, this is all on Little Baby, but towards the end, And they said, bro, they said something crazy. They said, we will hold you and every one of your associates accountable. And we will work day and night to make sure we hold you and your associates accountable. Now, if you seen like the RICO list, like that drop like of like gangs being being, being investigated that dropped my last year, 4PF was on that list. And that was the like Phany Willis list, right?

Right. Then, then, again, Baby said, oh, word? Yeah, 4PF is no longer a thing. We now pushing CBFW, which is can't be fuck with. And this is just like a fashion shit, right? And again, and I think Baby also too, like, signs. Yeah. Right? You feel me?

And too, like he signed like a new record deal where, bro, he changes his entire label name too. So 4PF now is completely gone. he has a new label name now, which is like, I think it's like, unicorns, I don't know. And then he changed, like, the quote-unquote, like the click to CBFW, can't be fuck with.

Okay. So. But isn't that a smart move for any Atlanta-based rap group that comes? I don't think the name is going to stop them from indicting you, bro. If you got the same niggas in it, they're going to be like,

and then it's going to be like 4PF, AKA CBF. Yeah. But, well, it does, it does create more ambiguity. It helps me. For your lawyer to pick apart cases a little bit. Yeah.

But, like, they still coming. You know. They still coming, but it'll probably be better for your lawyer to fight the case. It did not help Bobby Schmerter because that's exactly what they. No hell. They tried to fucking make GS-9 into a rap group 100%. And yes, it did not help. I thought GS-9 was good.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. I know what I'm saying. That's why I thought of the name is. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Wait, though. And like, that's the opposite of, like, that's not. That's different. Yeah. Yeah.

He's getting rid of the name. Right. No, no, no, no. That would be like going from GS-9 to something completely different. No, no, no, correct. No, my point is that Bobby, what they tried to do was create ambiguity by saying, although they didn't change the name. But they're trying to frame it as a rap label. But like that's even worse, right?

Changing the name is a further precaution. Yeah. Bro, listen, listen, bro, the cops are going to say. They're going to come get your ass, but you're going to fight that. Listen, but, listen, brother, the cops are going to say, oh, oh, oh, oh, shit. you're committed all these bodies all these drugs got so oh shit boy you're changing the name oh fuck

how do we find them now their name got changed no nigga I don't think that's the point I literally just I bet you it's the same group I guarantee you he asked his lawyer because I got one on retainer at all times I bet you he acts his lawyer what is the best way to defend myself

and put myself far as possible from this shit without snitching how do I put myself far from this shit without telling her or breaking no moral code Yeah. Nigger, change everything. Change the name to everything, nigga,

and it'll be able to put some doubt if we go to a trial and we fight this. I guarantee your lawyer told him something along those ones. Is this bad karma? That's my lawyer, everything. Is this bad karma for, not bad karma, but like, interesting, poetic karma that he's now about to be in the same situation that gun was? That gunner was? Nick Carl Gunner snitch and then go to jail?

Nah, I don't think that's karma. Hell, no, you shouldn't get no Carmen for calling the nigger who told a snit. You see where I was going, no, but it's like... I see where you was going, but he has... But it's beyond calling him a snit. He called him a snitch... He did stop fucking with his man.

Severatize with his guy, right? Yeah, but yeah, it looked like Thug don't really fucking... Looked like, oh, that shit was fake. It looked like Thug is cautious to fuck with anybody, period. We like, it's still different... Nah, he's doing sauce with niggas. He ain't fucking with Gunner. He did do a song with Baby.

Yeah, he did. He did. He did a song with nigg. This ain't fucking with Gunner. He's not fucking with Gunner. So I guess I was wrong. Because when I not, I was right, though. I said, I want to wait and see.

That's what we all said. You know what I'm saying? I was like, I want to wait and see what young thugs say. And they were going to say. And Thub called him a snitch. But Flacco, do you think this is kind of like an interesting, poetic karma? Because now babies in the same situation, Gunna was. Yes.

You shouldn't call it. You shouldn't get no karma. Yeah. Hey, can we play the video, please, honey? So let's see. respect to this, Lamont Freeman was allowed to be a 13-year-old for 27 minutes before gang violence ultimately took his life. Gang violence was orchestrated by adults, adults in our city, and cowardly acts of an Atlanta-based rapper

that decided to go over into a rival gang stronghold and shoot a music video in a place to he knew he should not have been. And in the subsequent days, we saw homicides and students, and ultimately the deaths of two children as a result of his cowardly actions, and you know who you are. And I tell you that this team will work relentlessly to hold you and the persons that you are affiliated with responsible for those actions. The investigation aspect of the- Right, cool.

And then afterwards, you know, like the news reach out of life, feel me. And then he confirmed we were talking about like a little baby. Right. So he's saying, hey, bro, we will work tirelessly in a night to hold you and the people you are affiliated with responsible. I don't ever want to hear those words come from a police mouth. I think that's some bullshit that a nigger gets a little boy resting in peace to him. I mean, that's extremely fucked up. But you just blame it out on a little baby.

What about the niggas who slid through? You came to your opposite trying to diss and told people. I'm being an American citizen. I'm being an American citizen. It's infrexing my right to be able to freely go where the fuck I please. True. True.

Because you're talking about it. I'm not illegal. I'm being an American citizen and I could go where to fuck I plead. No, true. So you're going to blame me for somebody getting shot for me going where I please. Go get the nigga who shot them.

And they can now say, oh, word, okay, bad. Now, guess what? Let's start looking into all the crimes at 4 p.m. He just fucked up, though. Yeah. He's not a day on his eyes. Look, if you're a little baby, and one of your biggest records of all time,

what's that song called? The big picture? Yeah. And you have like... The bigger picture. The bigger picture, right? Yeah. Your most notable record,

like the creative highlight of your career is a Black Lives Matter anthem. And you're shooting videos... Is that his best? I'm not saying it's his best, but it was a huge moment for him. Sure, okay. And you know what I mean?

Definitely, like, towards the paradigm of his success. and then now you're shooting videos in op-huds and kids, black children are smoking each other as a result. It's kind of fucked up. Well, hey, listen though, right? Hey, listen, though.

It's kind of fucked up, bro. And that's what I told these rappers, bro. Hey, listen, right? Like, Dirk thought that all my life shit wouldn't have saved them. Niggia, ain't saving you, right? Bro, bro, I don't care how harmonious you, like, sing on the record.

I don't care how many babies you bring to singing in the choir, bro. It ain't going to save you, bro. Your life decisions will always follow you, bro. Right? And, bro, I feel like because we're in hip-hop, we treat murders so fucking casually. Bro, these niggas is out here committing murders, bro.

No, they're out here playing God and taking niggas off earth, bro. Like, for example, bro. Like, when we hear, yo, Von or maybe Derek, right? Because what if Von get to, you feel me? yo, they put a bag on FBG Duckshead and got him killed. Yo, we treat that like so casually

when, bro, a hundred years ago. Don't do that, don't do that, do that. Nigger, that should have been treated like, yo, what the fuck? No, it wasn't my members talking about putting bags on people with heads all the time? What are you talking about? And they were wrong, too, though.

But I'm not saying that they were wrong or right. You said people looked at like, oh, my God. No, they didn't. People know when, when, nigga, you don't know that you ain't ever seen a godfather when they threw that party, niggie, and everybody came out from senators to politicians, what are you talking about?

Everybody came out when it's the mob boss's daughter's wedding. Yeah, what is that? These are all things based off true stories. You got senators coming, you got politicians coming, you got everybody, people who are completely outside of the family. They're all here too come just because

they love this mafia, man, because he's the mob boss and he running everything that's going on here. We ain't going to act like people have always congratulated the gangsters people of society. This is true. Don't do that. That's true. We should view those things more seriously.

Meaning, bro, if you hear- Don't condemn us. Like, no, no, no. Because all of us, where do you think we get it from? Niggas be like, I'm living like I'm scar-faced. Yeah. I'm living like I'm John Gotti. But even that, though.

But the people don't even like this, though, right? But that's another argument. No, but I don't think it's a- Earth. Bro, we should treat that shit like, bro, you're the, bro, you're a- I'm not saying you're wrong at all. That should be like just-cending-old. Don't just condemn us.

Well, yeah, it's not just. It's not just. It's not like that, though. It's not as bad at touching a child, though, because a child didn't go outside and ask to get touch. These niggas be going outside asking to get touch. No, but no one... He can come shoot at you and they can kill him and now

I'm looked at like a child touch. Hell no. To be fair, though. No one said it... I don't agree with that one. No one said it was a problem mutually exclusive to like the black community or like, you know what I'm saying? No, I said like right now in hip-hop.

He's hit in the black. That's us. Yeah, he did. We treat murders like his casualty. That was my whole point. I'm like, don't do that. Society. Society in general.

Society in general. And we should stop treating murder. Listen, bro. But, bro. Decide as a whole. How do you think games like Call the Duty get paid? That's what I was about to say. What's the most popular game?

Yeah, the most popular game is grab your gun and slaughtering other humans. It's fine. This is what we do. Don't just put it on hip-hop. Don't put it on black people. I'm not going to let you get up here, Uncle Tommy. Bro, listen. Absolutely not.

That's human. Hey, bro, listen. It is a problem, though. I agree. Yeah, right? But it ain't just hip-hop or niggas. Because look, in an ideal world, right? It is a problem.

Yo, if you heard Lil Durkin, Vondin, bro, in an ideal world, I would treat that shit like, like a, we treat pedophilia and snitching. Nigger, you did what? Nah, nigga, bro. I can't fuck with you know what the other, nigga. Niggas get asked to get killed. The kid don't ask to get touched. I can never, ever, ever put that in the same boat.

Yeah, no, there is a different level of, uh... Doug die watch course shopping for his son, nigger. And I'm not saying he deserved. I'm not saying he just deserved again. Niggas who die in crosshairs and hidden innocence. You got to realize that some niggas and some gangs, your Chicago is wilding out, but I ain't going to lie in some gangs in L.A.

or some gangs in general, but you get the hidden kids and your homies is going to get up. You're not supposed to do that. That's not accepted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For example, like. Yeah, niggas will discipline you for that shit. You might get killed.

Mexican gangs. You're going to die. Mexican gangs is off limits kids. Like, you're not supposed, like, family is around. Like, you're not supposed to. You hit the pit with paperwork like that and they'll get you off the yard. Yeah. Like, yes.

Like you and me. You know drive by shooting. You killed two niggins, but you kill some kids. Yeah. They're going to get you up off that yard. I could be wrong. Let's say, let's say. Yeah, yeah.

If a nigga hit the yard and he got kids on his paperwork, don't they get him up out of there and he killed some kids? It don't matter if you kill some reptables too. You would kill kids. Really beyond that even. Beyond that, let's say. Let's say. We can't just act like we up here just warming. Let's say you and Donnie are from rival gags, right?

And he runs into you. You got your lady and your kids with you. He's not supposed to press you, bro. He's supposed to, he's not supposed to press you. Shit. He's right. Now, niggas do be getting up on motherfuckers. I ain't going to lot.

Yeah, but my argument was last time is if you see a nigga that in pop nine of your homies, eight of your homies, are you with them kids, I'm sorry. You got to get him, but you just got to get up on him so you don't hit his kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got to go, but... Yeah, he got to go. Let him know who killed him in here. Walk down your man's.

He has to go. But pause. Pause. But you don't just driving by... A friend of their kids is better than you, right? Then drive-bying and shooting the kid, yes, it is. Yeah. You're not...

You're not supposed to. You didn't hit the kids or women. But you're, like, traumatized them for life now. Shit happens, mate. She knew who she... She knew who she procreated with it, who she was laying next door every night. You see, you see, kill Bill? You never seen Kill Bill?

No. She killed the bitch in front of her daughter. She got her daughter lives. She said, well, then you don't want to come back and kill me? Yeah, she said, she didn't. Yeah, yeah, let me know. I got that for you. When you're older, I know you don't want that.

I got that for me. They got that for you. They got that for the mob. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if you played the Godfather. What she's a lot? I don't know if you played the Godfather video game.

Yeah, a little black girl. Yeah, a little black girl. It was a godfather video game, nigger, where you start as a protagonist where your dad die in like this little mob shit and a mob owner take you, and he was like, you know who did it? You feel me?

When you get older, I'm going to raise you to be able to do X, Y, Z, and get him back, and he do. Yeah. You feel me? So it's like, that's regular in gangsta society. That's part of the culture. You just do it smartly. Now, niggas have gotten sloppy,

do drive-bys and hit kids, but you got to realize that. That's not acceptable with everybody. And also, other shit, like, when these, fools join gangs like they're essentially what you're you're like make you're signing a oath where you know I could get smoked at any time anytime that's even making a park that's like where you hang out with it's so funny that you say that though what's the difference they're going to the army

same shit what's the difference you put your name on a dotted line nigga you get shipped off to go kill some motherfuckers but they just hit you with politics resources and all that is nonsense but it's the same thing here nigga I can't I gang bang, it sounds stupid, hear me out. I game bang, I sell crack, nigga, and I need this two-mile radius. Them niggas over there is encroaching on said two-mile radius. Right.

We got to go to war. Right. What the fuck is the difference from Germany saying, nigger, we want this small portion of pollen that used to be Germany. Yeah. This used to be Germany. Yeah. That's really what he went to, what he went for.

And niggas don't realize, I'll be reading. There's really what he sparked it off for. and was saying little small things of why he was using why he was going. Really, that's why the U.S. didn't help invade because there was like, technically, that was a part of Germany before World War I. Yeah, take Austria.

Go ahead. Take it back. Technically, you can take these little four blocks because they, you got what I'm saying? And even though France wasn't yours, we ain't really tripping for real. That's between y'all. Now, once we started encroaching on certain things,

now it's the same thing. Oh, you bought it in England? Yeah. Really, we never would have got involved in less part. Per Bar Harbor. Portland Obama's that's what made us get them off. But you got to realize, right?

Because they wanted our oil. Yeah, there you go. Same thing in politics, though. Cracker oil, right? You know what I'm saying? Same thing with gangs, though. Vietnam rubber. Niget, I got this park.

I got this gas station in my hood. Like, I got these spurting certain spots where it's cracking and I need these. And the niggas down the street is starting to encroach on that. We fin to go to war for that shit. Because if I lose these blocks, I lose my whole hood. I lose my program. I lose everything. It's the same thing with these countries.

This is what that means. Not only like me and my family don't eat as much, but all of my people, all my people. Everything, everything collapses. If my five, if my three-mile radius turns into one mile, now we don't got that block that we sell crack on no more. We lose a park, a place where we recruit, a place where, you know what I'm saying? You lose certain things.

Same thing when it's in the same positives and this society. People just look at it a little stupider because these niggas do it in a dermant way. White people do the same thing. They just do it in a more intelligent way, so we look at it better. Oh, it's war for resources. They're defending a land. You, man, it don't matter how strong this military is. You can't come attack America.

So that's, that's capital. You know what I'm saying? How this shit built, how you had to just nuke it. Well, it's made you going to ruin the resources. And when people say it's dumber is because it's like when it's based on real estate that motherfuckers don't even own, that's what it goes. Right, right, right. But it's the same thing, though, because you don't own that other country and you're trying to go get it. But, okay, like.

What's the difference? Well, here. We live in a society, right? We all have signed a social contract saying, yeah, killing people, right? And selling drugs and doing these things, that's a bad thing to do. Unless it's for the country and we're going to war. And that's illegal, right? Here.

Because they do the same thing. The government sell drugs. They do all these same things. No, no, no. Here, right? Here, like, there's still things like war crimes that exist. Like, again. But those things have thin lines.

No, no, no. Because a lot of niggas go out there and kill all kinds of shit and they'd be cool. Right. Because there was a lot of people who would catch German citizens. But Russia, if they're Ukraine,

you know, again, like there's now some like war crowds for them now. There's something like... They'll be all right. They're not going to be... Right.

Right. Right. So like, there's still some like some type of rule, like, again, there's rules and regulations that you do have to follow. Again,

you can just go out there. There's... That means that you should be the game ban with regulation. That's what you just said. You're talking about the game ban regulations. If you could go to war with regulations,

there's certain, certain things, you should stand by you. So that means that a niggins should be in the game ban, but just don't do certain war crimes. When you get them, you feel, me, send them back. But don't kill them. Like, so that's supposed to be certain guidelines

that you should do if you're gaming. Geneva Convention. What you're referring to as a Geneva Convention, which is like the international standard. What's the difference from a country in the game? Gangs are not illegal, though. That's an ecosystem. As gangs who do crimes, that's illegal.

Meaning, again, you can be a part of a gang where you're being, but once you start to break the laws that we have set for it, for like, the society that we're in, that's where that becomes illegal and wrong. But the country can do it illegal. Again, so what's the legal gang? If a country breaks a world law, no, but listen.

They get punished with terrorists. You feel me too? But that's hypocrisy as far as said country because the country will tell you you can do these things while they go do said things. Like what? You don't think the government sell drugs? Oh, well, we saw the Iran contra.

You feel me? Like the Iran country? 1980s like like yeah right the CIA was definitely big big hand co-intel pro yeah yeah yeah what are we saying was over heroin

facts yeah right heroin that's all that like what we're saying they get a whole the country can start wars over drugs but when we do it we're a dumb niggas we I'm just confused you know we have a stablers not just the front liners if we're keeping in the staff no yeah no listen no again we have established right

No, again, we've established that we are members of society. And there's ruling regulations that keep us, right? Right. So, again, if you say, hey, brad. So I'm a, the, the person who make these rules can break them, but the person who- But, wait, wait, wait, He's just pointing to the hypocrisy.

The hypocrisy. No, it's critical. There's world guidelines, but me need this, for example, right? Right, right? Again, if you go to war and you don't put in, like, no measure whatsoever to, like, protect civilians, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Biochemical warfare. We're not supposed to use that shit. There's wronging regulations that, again, you sign a social contract to abide, right? Torture tactics to POWs. The CIA do it all the time. American intelligence does it all the time. Guantanamo Bay. We agree, though.

The CIA is independent, right? Again, to me, they're criminals. Yeah. Yeah. I tell them to a niggas from the set, go do it. Those are independent niggas from the hood. You can't say that. No, no, no, no, no, no, sorry.

You can't do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Sorry. Not the independent agency from the set. Oh, no, no, no, no, sorry. Again, right now. So, again, so, like, my entire point was the CIA, to me, they're criminals, right?

They should be held held accountable. And they're part of the government, nigga. Facts. The FBI. But we know the travesty they've done. They should be held accountable. All I'm saying is the people who are saying the gangnaker suits should also be held accountable. So that means the whole system needs to be held accountable.

Well, yeah. That's what you're saying. The entire country needs to be held accountable, the whole system that is made by. But all I'm saying is you got to realize that, in my opinion, the people who should be held accountable the least amount or the people who are at the very, very bottom of this totem pole. Who are the, okay, and who's that? Those are the 14-year-old kids shooting at each other. Thank you. That's all I'm saying.

But, okay. and that brings up the interesting question that I think we probably can all find a consensus on somebody like Little Baby, right? Little Baby know that he move a lot of people are going to move in a court as under. I'm just using him as an example, all right? He shoots a video in an area

that's in opposition with the agenda that he's pushing, the organizations he fuck with, right? As a result, young kids wind up smoking each other and getting killed over there. At what point does he have to take some responsibility and culpability? What's the difference from the U.S.

being in another country? They fuck some shit out, rather some Middle Eastern feathers leave and then all said Middle Eastern countries get to fighting for the resources and land that they left. Okay. And I think what Flacco is saying is essentially

you're right. That's true, but that doesn't mean that that's also not wrong. I agree. I agree. We just got to just look at the motherfuckers who teach it. If it's done on a bigger scale, I feel like it's a bigger problem. No, sure, but though, again, though, like the rules of

again, but the rules of like a society, right, is for us all to fit into society, right? Human decency. There has to be ethics, meaning, right? Like, there has to be a set of guidelines that we all agree to, right? Yeah. So hence, if you're in, again,

in like this society right here where there's rules and laws that have been created to say this is how things are supposed to be stable and one people is going above and beyond those rules and guidelines and breaking it, well, we have to have punishments for that, right? We just can't say, hey, yo, because the U.S. Evade Iraq,

I should be able to kill my neighbor. That's not what I'm saying. My whole point was this isn't a... That's not what I'm saying at all. It's just seemed like that because we've dragged on a little further. My whole point is you can't put the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, magno scope on the black community and say that that's us. Sure. And we're in the hip-hop community and, no, my whole point of all this was, yeah, that's humans. Society itself is failing. Society itself is failing.

It's human nature, yeah, of course. Society is failing. And I'm not saying that we have a better solution, um, to propose, but where it's at right now, shit's fucked up. Man, and listen, man, we've been here for, you know, about like 30 minutes of extra man

I feel me I feel like we can you know like stop here yeah okay okay but folks like subscribe comment you feel me I'm gonna see you guys on the news tomorrow yeah come on man

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