No Jumper - The NJ Show #340: Adam Takes an Epic L 😞 Lush vs Sharp! Tory Lanez Stabbed! & More

Episode Date: May 15, 2025

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The show, it's not members only, is it? It should be a public, and then we'll change this to members only halfway through. Are we live, though, is the question. I want to, we are live. Buzzball lush in the building. That's the first comment. Buzzball lush. All right.

I just want to clarify my mental state going into this episode. Number one. Okay, I should probably speak on this first. Where is Munchy? He hasn't given me, I'm waiting on. permission to give any kind of information, but basically he's not in a great state right now. He's dealing with something. He was really vague in the text last night.

Didn't sound good, but didn't give me any further information. So even what I just said, kind of spooky, because people are probably like hearing that and they're like, oh, well, this is a bad stuff. Catastrifying it. It could be not as serious. Right. I don't know what it is, but people are acting as if we chose. to not have Munchy on this podcast.

He was scheduled. We basically, like, he basically just picked up where Brick left off. Unintentionally, it just kind of worked out that way. Our intention was to continue to have him on this podcast every episode, but he's going through something. I don't know exactly what it is, but the Munchy B absence is not of our own doing. I just want to make that clear, first of all. And there is potential for him to be here as soon as Thursday next No Jumper show, I'm assuming,

right? I mean, definitely possible, but I don't know. He's dealing with something and he didn't give me any kind of real information. So I have to respect the fact that he didn't tell me that I could talk about it. I did just text him asking if it was okay if I talk about it, but he's not in the best state right now. Well, you know, like Munchy clearly, I feel like he takes the pod seriously. Like we talk regularly. We'll talk about things relating to the pie. What we could do better. our dynamic how we bounce off each other that's why i feel like it was a pretty seamless i'm not going to say seamless transition from brick because for sure the people miss brick especially just given what he's gone through i wouldn't even like compare them to each other or

whatever but yeah i feel like the munchy thing is good it really it got me thinking about how much we used to do the podcast and certain people on the podcast would just have no idea what we're talking about when it came to a lot of the topic Yeah. No shots at anybody who used to be on this podcast. But it is nice that most of the people that we've had on in recent memories seem like they take paying attention to the media world and what's going on on on YouTube and everything. They kind of take that more serious, which is weird when I think about it because it feels like almost everybody that I know who's associated with No Jumper is paying attention to everything that's going on in the media world. Now, obviously even like media world contains two gangster for YouTube.

Right, right, right. Which is not necessarily something that... Contains that fully encompasses my immediate intake. Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. That's a big chunk of mine, too, for sure. But either way, that's kind of where we're at on the Munchy situation. Now, I'm going to explain why I personally am kind of having an effed up day. First things first.

Had a housekeeper for five years. She informed us today that she's moving on. on to potentially greener pastures. So she's now Adrian Ross's housekeeper or what? She's like a bigger YouTuber? I didn't have the phone call where there. Lena had the phone call. I just know that this is something that I had no idea could affect me in any way.

You know, you take these relationships for granted, or at least I do, you know, a lot of people. And when I think about it, it's like the idea of starting over with a new housekeeper, when this is a housekeeper that has been with me for five years, I feel like I could trust her with whatever. I feel like I could trust her with my kid. My kid loves her. My kid sometimes talks about her in the same breath as me and my girl. She'll say,

she'll say when I grow up, I want to be like mom or dad or blank. And like, you know, even just that says a lot. You know, it's not like she brings her up like in every sentence involving her parents. But that's significant. I'm not going to lie to you.

I was low key. like partially raised by a housekeeper that is like that the woman that was the housekeeper that worked for my family is essentially my second mom you know what I mean and but I got you I forgot I was hella popular now I learned how to speak Spanish from you feel me so exactly and yeah underrated dynamic that are probably a lot of people watching this are like seriously like you feel bad about that or like we're supposed to first world problem Yeah, yeah, yeah. And for sure, like, even having a housekeeper is just not the kind of thing that the average person,

and myself could have never imagined it until the last couple years, you know? But at a certain point, when you're so busy and your girl's so busy, it just becomes necessary that you have help. And yeah, like, and I'm going to be real with you, like, part of the problem, I think is the fact that, you know, you basically have two options when you hire a housekeeper. You can pay them under the table and they don't pay taxes, which is risky for you as the employer because you're basically engaging in like an illegal arrangement and you know at some point they could presumably sue you.

You could do something like things could go wrong if you do that and my girl her accountant unbelievably by the books like super on top of whatever and he was really urging her to like anything that was a part of our arrangement needed to be above board and needed to be official in order to protect ourselves. So like that changed the. For sure, because for sure our housekeepers

looking at her friends who are getting paid maybe maybe the same as her, but she's paying taxes. Yeah. And that's not easy because that all of a sudden is, you know,

chopping off a very legitimate chunk of the money that she was bringing in. So it's kind of like, like from our perspective, she's paid extremely well. but at a certain point I could almost even imagine that she would be willing to leave

a situation with us to go work for somebody else for less money off the books and it would actually make her more money and there's other reasons why that might be advantageous as well you feel me I don't want to make any implications but she is legal yeah well that's what I was going to say so like um look if the importance of housekeepers in affluent households are really high

to the point where, I mean, my parents' housekeeper, I can't say my, she was like a mother to me, literally, Estella lover to this day. She was, she drove a Jeep Cherokee, bro. Like, she was making Scooch Liani six figures a year working for my mom and dad. Granted, it's a hard job. Right. So I definitely deserve it. But I can understand because, like, now you're going to go through a whole vetting process.

Exactly. You're probably not going to like the first couple ones. and then you're going to be like, oh, no, you're not supposed to use the socks go in this draw. They don't know the little intangibles. And now your life's going to be essentially in shambles. And it's also just the trust of just, you know, you've been with the same person for five, six years. You know, they're not going to steal from you at a certain point. And, you know, I've helped them out financially at random times when they needed help at the car or whatever.

You know, there's all these different things that all of a sudden you're just like, I've just had this, you know, it's like losing a relationship. but it's not as intense as a marriage or girlfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend thing. But it is, it's significant. And so that's one thing that I had no idea that it was going to basically mess me up like that. Well, but here I am. I mean, does Lana, does Lina echo these sentiments or is she more willing to move on? She is in the same situation that I'm in, but probably worse because she's dealing with her more. And also over the course of like the next month, Lena's going to be traveling a bunch and everything.

and then, you know, we do have a couple weeks until she's off the job and everything like that, but it does make you feel like, oh, crap, like we had all this traveling arranged and stuff, and now it's going to be, like, a little bit more difficult for me to be putting in late nights here and everything because, you know, we don't know what's going to be going on with it. So there's, I mean, this isn't like a potential bargaining situation, like, what's up? I'll give you a slight raise. Well, see, that's the thing. It might be worth it, bro.

It might save you a lot of headache in the end. She has negotiated, like, given her enough raises that it kind of feels like that's probably not what she's necessarily looking for. I don't know. And who knows, maybe it's closer to her because she does have to deal with a pretty epic commute and everything, as many a housekeeper probably do, having to drive from like the inner cities to the valley. But then also on top of that, it's like, I don't know. She came to Lennon and didn't mention the possibility of like, oh, maybe we should do that. instead. Maybe I should, maybe, maybe if you gave me a raise and I wouldn't take this job, that wasn't even like disgust. So, I don't know. That's, that's number one on my list.

Number two, I've got some fashion over slacks on and boy, do they feel great. My butt has never felt better wearing these fashion over pants. Let's just make that completely clear. Okay. In addition to that, you know, when I have a week that is like full, every day, tons of content to do. I don't have a lot of time to think about, you know, what am I doing with my life? And this is why I started this podcast earlier today is because, uh,

number one, uh, dark Brandon is going to be at least another 10 minutes until he's here. Conrad, I actually have no idea. He agreed to it yesterday. Who knows? He could be here at any given time.

But today had two podcasts on the books. First one, basically was just acting like a goddamn space cadet. didn't show up whatever i mean i'm you know i just don't give you a fuck but still you know i was like a nice trunk of my day that i was planning on doing something being productive person didn't come is what it is whatever the next one was supposed to be brian pumper i'm supposed to do brian pumper at one now let me explain to the people how this came to be i made that video on the adam 22 channel about the mysterious disappearance of brian pumper somebody gets in touch through

rock star 2800 they reach out they say I can get him I know him I see him all the time doesn't have a phone which is weird

but I can make it happen they put us in touch we end up sending him a deposit for the interview I'm also agreeing to pay a finder's fee so the person who put us in touch or whatever

but for me you guys know that a Brian Pumper interview for me is like a Donald Trump interview for someone in the Manosphere. This is as big as it gets. Your Alpha and Omega, essentially. And I feel embarrassed

to say that, that this is such a big deal to me, but having done that documentary about him, like, to put it in perspective, I consider this to probably be one of the biggest interviews I'll ever do, but I didn't write down a single question. I didn't do any research. It's all up here. You don't have to. I know everything. I've dug into his story so much that there's just nothing that needs to be written down. It's all up here. My obsession with Brian Pumper is so strong that it just felt like we could just go off the cuff.

I knew, though, that there was a good chance that it wasn't going to happen. And then, of course, as today plays out and I'm starting to realize, oh, Laura's not really getting the text back that she might necessarily expect, and then all of a sudden they get in touch with them. And then all of a sudden, the guy who's supposed to be getting the finder's fee is hitting me up asking for the finder's fee in advance. And I'm like, no, I will give you the finder's fee. fee once it happens.

Once he's found. Yes. Once he comes and does the interview, I will send it to you. And you have no room to accuse me of scamming because nobody has ever accused me of scamming in the past, none of any consequence. You know, you have no reason to think that I might not pay you. And also, obviously, like, what I'm giving you would be a very small percentage of what that interview might then earn, you know?

Anyway, they asked me for gas money. Now, I don't want to reveal where Brian Pumper is currently. laying his head. And for all I know, he might be laying his head on a pile of leaves in the forest somewhere, because the only thing I know is the city. It is in California. It's not in Los Angeles.

So my whole theory of like, okay, maybe he's gone to like a nearby neighboring city an hour, an hour and a half away. That has kind of panned out. He's got to drive from Adolanto. I don't know what the hell that is. But I do know,

he's found a city in which he gets a lot of, less attention than he was getting at a certain point in Venice Beach. The person who was going to give them a ride starts asking for gas money, even though we had already sent actual U.S. dollars for the deposit for this. My response at a certain point, I'm like, okay, no, it's not happening. And at this point, they were going to be late enough to the point where right now it's four, they were probably going to get here at like two, which also I don't want to fuck with that. Like, I'm not pushing this show back so that I can do another interview, even if the

interview is very important we can reschedule but missing out on that at least for the time being which i i am going to keep fighting for it please believe that but missing on that the first interview also not working out even though i really don't give a fuck and then also the housekeeper thing really has just kind of given me enough room to sort of be having like a mental freak out today what the hell am i doing with my life type moment because you know sometimes like these podcasts they they incrementally add to the value of no jumper, but I obsess about them. And I have a different model than a lot of other people where it's like,

okay, if you're Joe Budden, you do three, four podcasts a week, that's the whole thing. That's like your whole gig. For me, it's like I kind of hold myself to the standard of like,

I want to be doing 10 interviews a week. I want to do two podcasts and a bunch of fucking interviews and I want to do these solo streams. It's like there's no level of content that's actually like going to make me feel content about what I put out into the world that week, which is absurd. And it's just like a strange mentality for it. And I just am like,

there are a lot of other things I want to do in my life. And sometimes I just look at this content thing. And I'm like, maybe now, maybe around now is when you're starting to realize that maybe this isn't what you want to do as ferociously. Maybe I should fall into a bit of a more casual groove

of doing content. But also, I mean, part of that is that we're in a weird place as far as the host go on no jumper. Now, BBL Lush has been pulling his weight for sure. Like this. But also, Brick is gone. Presumably not going to see Brick for quite some time.

Crip Mac got about six months probably. So that's nice. Four extras. Got about a week, maybe two weeks until we see him again, which would be nice. Although, you know, it does seem somewhat likely that he might just find his way back pretty quickly. Hopefully not. Fingers crossed. Don't want to see that,

but that has definitely, you know, cross many of people's minds. But, you know, we're in a little bit of a weird place with the hosts where we just,

we need some new energy. We got to get some more faces in here that the people really like and everything. I do have some ideas, even just talking to Josh about it a little bit today. I do think that there's like some other people that we could emphasize in terms of the non-adam hosts. But I'm not going to lie.

Like, today has just kind of been like a weird one mentally for me, dealing with a bunch of bullshit. But like, like it's understandable being distraught about things like this, but it's also kind of reminds me of hearing like Jay-Z talk about, oh, it sucks being famous. You know what I mean? And it's,

these are super great problems to have as difficult as it might be. And obviously that's frustrating. As far as the Brian thing, I'm curious. So you've had no direct communication with him. It's all through third parties for this, particular thing you know honestly like i put it in the hands of my booker and she's the one who's been having the conversations but you are right that maybe i should have hopped on facetime with bro i

mean like honestly the guy who connected us at first he was like calling me you're trying to you know my phone's on do not disturb a large percentage of the day so i didn't actually do that but it seemed very believable obviously rock star connecting us that made it feel a little bit more believable and everything too just because I would assume the rock star is not just part of an elaborate scam if he thinks that this guy's all right then he's probably all right but uh yeah I mean I'm still gonna keep fighting for it um this is like you know he's he's in a city that's over an hour away so I guess I have to be a little bit understanding I also just feel like Brian Pumper at this point is like super standoffish to the point where like I don't know it feels like he has like a hard time

acting in his own best interest because like if he is fucking up financially doesn't the amount of money that we're offering you doesn't not move the needle enough that you're just going to take it serious i would think one would assume but you know a lot of people who are not doing well financially it's like partially because they just they just don't have their shit together and they can't focus on the things that you would like to think that they would so well mental stability and decision making or never brine pump or strong suits but um is he aware like the level of admiration you have for him as far as like has he ever referenced seeing the doc or anything like that?

No, but, I mean, it's possible. Like, I feel like he probably does. Like, somebody has to have told him. Like, I mean, at a certain point, that most recent video that I made, I can't imagine they got in touch with me through this guy and wasn't aware of the fact that I have now made two in-depth videos about him. That would be very strange.

Is it my takeaway from when I watched you talking about Brian and that doc was that it seems like a lot of the industry, like the adult industry, don't rock with him like that. The thing is, is that he's been separate from the adult industry for at least five, six years.

Way longer than that, actually. But like, even when he was, like, close to the peak of his fame, he still had... He got rejected by Evil Angel. He had a production deal with them. That didn't work out because he was being a little funky

with the bookkeeping. I guess you could say the nicest possible way to say it. But, you know, he was working with girls that, you know, were maybe not appropriate to be working with or something. I don't actually know exactly what the details are, but he basically got canned by one of the bigger companies in the industry. But that's the whole thing.

It's just like we live in the only fans era where you really don't need that kind of thing. Yeah. So, I mean, I still personally, I'm optimistic. I know people are probably wondering, will you ever fuck your wife with Brian Pumper? She has expressed a lack of interest in that. Now, that means said, she's a woman. So sometimes she might need her partner to guide her

in the direction that is best for her. So I'm not giving up hope. I do think maybe one day I would be able to experience my wife in the truest way possible, which is with Brian Pumber. Sands eggs or with eggs? I mean, if he doesn't break at least one egg on her head, then I'm not going to feel like I really got the whole experience. Yeah.

How will I finish? How are you going to come? Yeah, so that's the situation we're in. However, I would really like to bang a woman with him. Understand. And I'm sure I'll get an almost limitless haul pass from her in that regard. I think that she would let me bang any woman with Brian Pummer, just because she knows how much it means to me.

Yeah, that's actually offered, she said this morning, she actually made me laugh for upwards of one to two minutes by saying, you should give him flowers to start the interview. Man, that. She said, if you pull out a dozen road. is from under the table, man, that would be like really add a lot to it.

I'm like, you know, that is a fucking brilliant idea. Each role symbolizes a different, like, memory you have of his and you just break it down. It could be, oh,

that's funny now, right there. That was funny. Like, but you tag teaming, someone with Brian Pumper, that'd be like me playing catch with Daryl Strawberry.

You know what I mean? Like, like, this is something I've always wanted to do. This is one of my heroes. I can only imagine. So, I'm almost afraid of myself.

yeah like what might happen what if i turn my attention towards him yeah you might if you just lock eyes for a little bit too long like she's sucking his dick and i'm just like oh what what no baby do it like this what what's the Brian pumper I know you've been locked up for a while I'm just kidding I'm a heterosexual man I'm just kidding what's like his what are the because I know you've told me before and you said on this pod that like female talent kind of defines how popular a lot of dudes are like if girls don't like working with you you're not gonna what was that part of why they was like Brian Pumper kind of a lot of a lot of stories a lot of weird stories about things that he may or may not have done

on set I implore people to check out the original Brian Pumper documentary in which I highlighted a lot of the stuff but that being said um yeah I mean definitely for sure there's been a lot of strange behaviors that people noticed over the years. That being said, like, the girls in the porn world that I talk to now, they don't know who the fuck this is. Yeah, I was going to say. Because, like, what would say the pinnacle of Brian Pumper's, like, oh, 8,09? Maybe, like, a little after that, like, early 2010s, yeah, 2012.

So these, these chicks in their early 20s have no clue who he is, essentially, which might actually work in his favor. I almost am so, like, devoted to, getting this content that I almost want to drive an hour and a half to wherever he's at and just make the content happen there. But I mean, I almost feel like him sitting in that chair right there. That's what it's all about. Like I can't just go stand in a Walmart parking lot, you know?

Remember like, remember that one time where you were like, hey, Lush, you know anybody that does window tending? And I was like, yeah, and then you like, and then. Bucci bear. What's up, folk? Is that a huge boner? Or you have like a lot of stuff in your pockets. Oh, okay.

He's excited to see me. We never parted with him in this room, have we? Not the fact that you're checking out of my crotch. We've always relegated you to the other room. Right next to Lush, yeah. I don't want to sit right here. Why not? This dude's been with everybody, glazing them.

Been with everybody. See, guys touching me? Look how much higher his chair is. He looks like a totally like different species. Like my cheeks. They elevate me. You guys could do whatever you want over there. It's going to be like, you almost can't.

Can you see Lush? is he like casting a shadow on him you don't need to see him exactly this is where's the other black person who's supposed to be here the other black person who knows he's on the way I guess we're all late black people are incredibly late to everything

black people are amazing we're on color people time way to reinforce stereotypes we're on color people time I'm in glazer mode black people what can they not do show up on time anyway I was just expressing my sadness I could give you a list

I expressed my sadness about not only losing my housekeeper but also Brian Pumber not showing up today. Wait, your housekeeper died? No. But for all intents and purposes, yes. Is she black? Did you work her to death?

Black housekeeper? You ever heard of that? Downs out? Yeah. In L.A., you don't have to say that your housekeeper is Hispanic. Oh, so they know that. Well, I just think, like, doesn't everybody assume that? It's almost like, if you're a white housekeeper, like, how dare you?

Like, get the fuck out of here. Like, you're taking jobs for people that realistically probably need them more than you. They're like, it's essentially like AI taking jobs from hardworking people. Like white people get the fuck out of our spaces. It is kind of like that. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Anyway, how are you doing? Picking your ass on the highway. What happened? Uh, how was the highway? Yeah. Man, listen. The freeway was ridiculous.

Yeah. But I made it safely so. Because, okay, while I was perusing YouTube today, I realized that you were live streaming. How many hours do you commit to doing that per week? per day. Too many. You know what? Probably about two. Two hours a week? Two hours a day. A day, okay.

Hit or miss. I'm not very consistent. Okay. But I'm becoming more consistent. Interesting. Yeah. There's like your thumbnail today had like a picture of Rick Ross in the middle. That's not Rick Ross. That's Anton Daniels. Oh. You are racist. You thought all black people look like. I could tell if it was you or Rick Ross.

Those were the two options that I. You guys all look so much alike. I'm not really saying. that so much, but wait. That was nowhere near Rick Ross. That is a very famous YouTuber. Oh, really? That you need to be on the lookout for, Anton Daniels.

Yes, look it right here. No, I ain't going to lie to you, Brendan. Wait, fuck. Nah, I just seen it a second ago. That's... Look at this right here. So you're blaming... I'm raised us for not knowing that this is not Rick Ross?

No, that's... That looks nothing like Rick Ross. It's on the screen, right? Nothing like Rick Ross? Nothing like him. And that's me at the bottom right, corner show you know it's not me in regards to like the average person that guy is 99% of rick ross glasses big bushy beard he's got a hat on i mean honestly my like the jacket looks

kind of quaint and there's no jewelry those are the main things that made me think it was not if he would for sure be like he could do rick ross for Halloween one way yeah so go ahead to say he was about six one about 185 pounds you know that same description. You're telling me this is a guy about town? No, this guy is the guy. He looked different. He don't look like Rick Ross right there.

There he looks like Mr. organic. Look at this picture right there. Tell me that's not Rick Ross. What are we talking about? He's highly intelligent. He's rich. Okay.

He's a successful guy. You know, he's like somebody that I really admire on YouTube space. Okay. And he's like, he was on Fox News. Let's get him on here. Where's he been on here? He's in Detroit. He's never been on here.

Black's fatigue. White people calling out black culture for racism, not dating men over snow bunnies. Yeah. So he's... It sounds like it's right up your alley, Brady. He's mega conservative or no? Mega, like me.

Mega, okay. The thing is like black people exist outside of like white spaces, I want to say. We have our own community and we have, you know, unique issues that we're facing. You mean like... Most of that stuff is caused by white people, though, but we discuss it amongst ourselves with the more intellectual people. the stuff that we see mostly here, these niggas are just ignorant.

Nobody really takes them seriously in our circle. So like if I look at some gang member, I don't care how gangster y'all think he is. I'm never going to really respect that person on a level of like, this guy's intelligent. This guy has something to add to the space of the demographic or the... So you think you're better than much of being brick, baby.

Essentially what I, yeah, that's what I heard, too. I don't think that. I know that. I know for a fact, indisputably. and the reality is, I like Munchy B. I like Munchy. Man, Barrow is rich, bro.

That's my bro. Like, he's successful. He's rich to me. You know what I'm saying? I just don't. He has more money than he. Didn't you say that before? I just want to know.

If he has more money than me, he's rich to me. Okay. But like, how does he make money regardless of how much it is? Well, I don't, I'm be honest. When I say rich, I don't mean rich like. Oh my God. You're going to say he's rich because he has a family and a girl. He's rich because he's successful.

You know what I'm saying? He's financially. He's good. He has a nice little family. When you tell me that someone is rich and then you can't tell me anything about what they do? That makes me feel like they're a scam. The reason why.

Or you're afraid to say how you really feel. I'm like, or you're afraid to say how you really feel because he's a gang member to and fits the exact description that you just said you were better than. No, because I don't sit up and discuss my friends finances in public form. I just want any little nugget of why. He's successful.

What is he doing? Crypto. He's doing a lot of things that are very legal. and they're bringing him significant, you know, resources. That really narrows it down. Okay, what were you saying? I'm just saying he's a successful guy. Well, I get it.

You're not going to tell us. And he's very smart. As you saw him when he interviewed you down the office. I ask him or is how he's getting money so secretive that I shouldn't ask him. I don't think it's secretive. I think that he would be the best person to speak on his financials. Okay. Yeah, not me.

I will ask him. But what I can do is big up my bro. uh you know give a little acknowledgement to what he has been able to what does this hat say right here everything 420.com oh that's not your hat okay well it's funny that you mentioned that brand and because let's pay some bills today's sponsor is everything 420.com big shout to everything 420 basically the amazon for smoking gear they've got everything from vapes to grinders to glass to edibles to flour and even shrooms if that's your vibe the everything for or the e420

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No, I mean like it's not that whites aren't involved. Like we have our own unique insulated conversations about certain things like Twitter. Like this black fatigue thing. It actually does include white people. What is black fatigue? Black fatigue, you're experiencing it right now because everybody who you depend on to make, not even depend because you depend on you, first of all.

But everyone who you thought was going to be here with you to help make this thing a bigger success, all those niggas are in jail. I know that shit irritates you. Like, when you're driving down the 4-5 in the back of your mind, like, goddamn, I gave these niggas opportunity and they like fucked it up.

And every white person, I see Donnie shaking his head, yes, I see you, Donnie. And it's nothing wrong with that. What we're starting to realize in the black community, or just now are being allowed to discuss openly is people are tired of niggas, bro. Like gang members, any degenerate element of the black community,

black people been tired of that. Seeing that lady raised a million dollars after calling the little kid that NWR, that pissed you off. Regardless of that, it just made me realize, oh, there's a lot of people out here who not only dislike black people, but are willing to put their paycheck behind it because a million dollars is a lot of goddamn money. Not just essentially weaponizing racism. That's all it is.

No, it's not. Yeah, it is. But the fact that there's an army of people who are willing to support her was the kind of astonishing thing to me. It's not astonishing. It's called black fatigue. People get tired of constantly having to coddle people. So the race card, civil rights, white people gave black people a lot of leeway in, in, you know,

like in apologizing for slavery and all that. but everything eventually runs runs its course. And now white people are like, look, you guys have just as much access to things as we do. There was a black president. You got a white dude in middle America making $12 an hour, emptying septic tanks. He gets to look at Rick Ross, 50 cents, all these rich-ass black dudes. But at the same time, has to listen to some black guy complain about nothing. I don't have an opportunity.

I can do this. And it's your fault. The guy who's been working at Chuck E. Cheese and he's 50. I was at AutoZone the other day. There's a white guy. Bro, is like 65 years old, barely walking. The guy's been working on like 20 years.

He's making like $18 or $19 an hour. I'm like, man, you got to have a house. This must be like your hobby. He's like, no, dude. I'm living in like a boarding house. Like we all share a bathroom. This was where? This was at AutoZone.

Okay. And you're just randomly shaming some guy. I was a day-to-day job for not having a house? No, I took an interest in his life. Because if I see someone 60 years old working at AutoZone, I don't think that's right. You know, he ain't do some foul shit when he was younger that got him locked up. It doesn't even matter.

But what I'm saying is he's not complaining. He's not on the internet calling everybody racist because whatever choices he made landed him where he is. Whereas you have black people, some black people with some elements of black society who are like, it doesn't matter how. fucked up I am. It doesn't matter what I do. If I don't get, if I'm not where I want to be at a certain point, that's some white

guy's fault. And you experience it. You're a culture, butcher. You're this. You're that. No, no.

A normal black person says, you know what? Adam is providing jobs for black men who otherwise would be unhirable. So they would be out here robbing me when I'm coming out of fucking crinchall mall or something. So thank goodness for him. Because I don't want to do with those niggas on a day to day basis. So you bite the bullet for it. There are black people inside of black society who understand that.

And those people, though they would probably never watch your show because it's a bit degenerate, they still would sympathize with you. And so that's where you and Anton Daniels find common ground because you're both sick to death of black people. No, we find common ground because we're responsible black men with families. And we realize that this element and this reality has to be addressed for the black community to move to the position it rightfully deserved. So the statute of limitation for systemic oppression is out the window at this point. We've passed the statute of limitation just so we're on the same page here. We passed that the day black people decided to go work in a cotton field instead of going to kill Massa and his whole family and running away to Canada. Well, it's giving slavery was a choice.

Slavery is just like, dude, you could have did something about it. Every black slave rebellion was thwarted by another black person ratting out the rebellion. Like, hey, they're going to try to do this or that. So be ready. not Turner's dead because black people. Malcolm X is dead because black people. Martin Luther King is arguably dead because of black people. That's a high take,

but you're like missing a lot of historical data. That's very important. I know 10 times of history that you know. You may. And also I deal with my own people on a level that makes me understand. I see exactly the context in which all that shit happened. Because look at this situation. When you got these gang members and stuff in here,

and they are like, I'll behave for absolutely. them so I can get on no jumper. But when I get in the street, oh my God, I just can't tolerate this, Nick. I got to pull out the gun and gun him down on sloths. But that is kind of a gross mischaracterization when you talk about slavery being optional and things like that.

That is optional. Just kill me. I'm not going to let you enslave me now. I'll die first. Everyone had that choice. I mean, you're talking about Chetel slavery. You're talking about transatlantic Chattel. A lot of white people for sure.

sure were killed and died. Yeah. And black people jumped off the boat when it was on its way. I mean, the thing is, black people were slaves. Like Harriet Tumman said, she could have freed a lot more people if they knew they weren't free. So there was a certain mindset that was built up that made people feel like, well, this is the natural order. It's the normal way. So it was a lot of ignorance in that too. But there were people who made choices that they knew I am impeding black freedom by doing it. I think at this point in the podcast, we need to acknowledge what just happened,

which is I feel like this is, I'm kind of looking at the chat right here, but it feels like this is kind of something that the people out there are a little bit put off by. And I think that they fog with you, and I think you have a lot of potential as a podcast house. And I realize that we were talking about this guy, Anton Daniels,

who fits into the same philosophy as you. But I feel like, I don't know about that, but it feels like it's just that they are, There's a likelihood. And actually, you have a lot in common with suspect in this way, which you probably don't want to hear. But in the sense that any topic is likely or at least it's possible that at any given moment, it could turn into a 45-minute race debate, which, granted, race is a great filibuster topic.

You could fill the conversation out with racial talk at any given time. Suspect's known to do it. do it. And it, I feel like some percentage of the audience hates it to such an extent that it just needs to be acknowledged because I, I don't think that this kind of thing is like inappropriate for a podcast, but I do feel like sometimes it just takes the space of other things to an extent where the people don't necessarily love it. I mean, we could, we could do a poll about how they even feel or if this is a good example

of it. W. Brandon, everything Brandon said is true. I mean, the reality is... Some people do like it, yeah. It's the thing people don't want to discuss until Torrey Lanes is fighting for his life in a hospital bed because he just got stabbed by some South Siders in to Hatchee Pry prison. Wasn't that debunked?

That's not debunked. What are you talking about? Mexican element? I saw a lot of people saying that's not true. No, no, no. I keep telling you... There are... Sorry, I don't want to talk too much.

I don't know. You go right ahead. What I want to know is this. Brandon and I think that you might actually have an interesting take on this. People have always criticized me and been like, you try to act like you're black. You act like you're black. No, you act like a Serenia. But you act like a Jewish.

You act like a Jewish. But like my thing is I feel like it's very offensive to black people to characterize the way that I act as trying to imitate them. Right. You act like a J-CAD, not a black guy. I act like there's only one, you feel in me, there's only one. I can't really be defined by a race or a category like that. But do you think that I, do you think it's disrespectful to say that Lush try to act black?

Is that disrespectful to black people? Keep in mind also, I just want to know what happened. He passed the mic to you and you use it as an opportunity to ask him a question. Yeah. At which point he will have to blow the eight about race further instead of making your own statement. Yeah. I think you should have phrased that as a statement about how you feel about it. instead of just being like, hey, let me ask you this question.

Fair enough. Fair enough. Just fair enough. So you acknowledge that I've been judged unfairly because these things get back to. I say things that make people feel like I have the authority to forgive them like, yes, lest you have been forgiven for that. Oh, I'm not asking for forgiveness. No, I think you're good. Well, shit, then why ask?

Fuck it. Who cares what they think? Or who I don't care what anyone thinks. Obviously, we don't think you're black. And we also don't think you. I don't think you act like almost any of the black people I know either. That's totally honest. I mean, you at Brickbeenegu were not so dissimilar.

This is a yarmaca with a rim. Legitian. I can talk about real culture, bro. We can put you thing. It's a yamacra. Oh, you got the tag tucked into it? The fuck you think. Bro, that's like when Dejohn stood up and the snacks fell out of his shirt.

Dejan. Like, it just feels like it was supposed to be. It feels scripted. Why did you ghetto fight this man's name? It's Dejan. You call him Dejan. That's what I always called him. What's next?

Glocktavius. What's that? Tyrone? Mustard. I don't know. I mean, I always call them Dejean. Dejan. I like dark rainbow.

Dejanese. Yeah, that's like giving them a little bit too much credit. Yeah. A rainbow is a force of nature. Bro, put tips on you, look. I saw that fight video, bro. It was out there. Oh, him?

I ain't got nothing to see. I'm worried about that. Look. No, but. I'll fuck up a zestican. A zestigan. Wow. Yeah, but nah, I definitely don't need to talk about race anymore.

But, you know, I just believe that. no jumper and the people watch it, they're being hypocritical because it's like, give us more of the black gang shit. And then it's like, well, we don't want to make this about race. What it is is you don't want any what to make you feel uncomfortable

for loving negative stereotypes being kind of like perpetuated and loving this like animosity that exists between black people. Okay, so riddle me this. I mean, don't you feel like the, side of black YouTube who basically constantly makes content about the failings of black people

and it's not just black YouTube as well because like obviously somebody like Tim Pool this is at least like a chunk of the content that he's doing a lot of like right wing commentators etc and if we could go to Matt Walsh's Twitter account right now and scroll down and there's going to be a lot of tweets

that do extremely well that are basically like here's a black person doing something this is why black people are bad. They basically can't adjust or exist in our society. We need to more or less round them up and get rid of them all. Wouldn't you say that in some way that someone like Trappler Ross or somebody who makes a habit of really like dissecting bad black behavior? Now, granted, like Ross does it under the auspice of this is hip hop content. This is about rappers. But aren't all these people kind of doing something very similar, which is just like picking apart

bad black behavior. Well, yeah, because when you are a group of people that a lot of people say it look up to, you know, as far as culture, you know, music, all that, that comes with the territory. If you're successful at anything, you're going to have a legitimate pool of critics that are saying, well, look at all these negative takeaways, right? But that makes sense with trouble with us because, yeah, he's picking apart rappers who achieve some degree of success, at least like most of the time.

but like a lot of these conservative critics and stuff are really just picking apart like your everyday average black guy off the street and they're also not giving like nuance takes and showing the other side and showing the positive impact as well it's just like you're getting a brief window into this guy doing some fuck shit

like I saw a clip of some white kid getting the dog shit beat out of them by a bunch of black kids and I you probably already know which one I'm talking about because as soon as I saw it I saw it from like a fight account or like a sort of hip hop coded account probably and I immediately knew like oh it's going to be about five minutes to me scrolling down my timeline before I see some conservative commentator who's basically quote tweeting this and

explaining how horrible black people are and how this is their this is like their natural state of being and we need to get rid of them in order for society to flourish etc and if sure enough as I scroll down of course I see the end boss Matt walsh and he's doing that exact uh act I don't personally find it super interesting but it does stand out of to me a lot that this is just like such a common thing in terms of content creation. The thing, the reason why that exists and we're going to get, we're going to get rid of that

and how you get rid of that is if you call out your own shit, that doesn't give me one of the space to call it out. See, white people, when the girl called the little kid at N-word, a bunch of white people jumped up, you know what I'm saying? Black Lives Matter.

When Carmelo, Anthony, killed that white kid in Texas, black people were like, he's a hero. He did the right thing. See, we have just become so accustomed to doing things in spite of white people because of slavery and all that. We're at the point where any degenerate can get online expressed like an anti-white sentiment in defense of a black person acting like an animal. And it's accepted. White people don't want to say anything because they don't want to be viewed as racist.

Black people don't want to say anything because if you do, your own group turns on you and says you're a coon. You're trying to serve the white man. That's the immaturity that we have collectively. And now the bar is being raised. We're not tolerating that shit no more. We're going to call you guys out because what you guys do cast a negative light on us. So now we're getting judged and being victimized or just misrepresented and it's affecting us negatively. So now we're just calling our own shit and people don't like that.

But we're going to keep on doing it. And I don't hate black people. I think black people are the greatest thing never walk on this planet, the original people of this planet, but we need to start acting like it now. We've been enslaved and all that shit. All right, that shit's over. Let's go out and get this chili.

Brandon, like, you made a point last week I found really interesting. And you didn't use the phrase hive mind. I forget the exact phrase you use, but you essentially implied that of all cultures and of all people, black people kind of have the most collective consciousness where y'all move on accordance and share ideology. We're monolithic.

Monolithic was the first. phrase you use. Okay. So through this monolithic movement, what about all the people that are the, you know, quote unquote, the problem, the people that are perpetuating the negativity, the gang members, the degenerates, however you wanted to find them. Where do they fit into that monolith? They don't fit into it. Oh, where do they fit in? They're the people who we constantly have to defend to make people feel like, like we have to defend these people so that I don't even know why we defend them, but they just are just like that little brother who's like super fucking

annoying, he always says the wrong thing. You're trying to bone some chick and he comes in being goofy and cracking jokes, making the chick feel uncomfortable. You're just like, dude, fucking chill. Like, I got it. That thing. The last thing I'm going to say about this is this. If a white guy does something to a black person,

he is now the representation for all white people. Look at how white people are doing us. If a black guy does something and they try to use him to represent all black people, they'll say, we're not a monolith. All black people aren't the same. So we're hypocritical in the sense of-

Well, yeah, young and ace is not a reflection of Dr. Cornell West, bro. Right, but we're hypocritical in the sense that if Donnie does something racist, every white person at no jumper is racist or all white people, period. So we view everyone else in a very, we judge everyone else in a very monolithic way, but we want to be judged individually. See, it's hypocrisy. And it needs to be called out. And maybe this is not the place.

But just know, we know that that's going on and we're addressing it. I mean, it's nice to hear that because obviously as a white person, we've grown up in a world in which that kind of tribalism is accepted by black people and not by white people. It's like white people are just absolutely not allowed to have any kind of pride in their skin color. and I've grown up with that as just you know I've always accepted that and taking that for granted and it's yeah it's untenable I think and you're seeing the reaction to that when you see what was her name shiloh Hendricks yeah yeah I mean you're seeing that with her it's like her getting a million dollars only makes sense in a world in which Carmelo anthony got like a million dollars for basically killing someone now granted killing someone a lot worse than calling someone the end order on a playground but you know

I feel like she only gets a million dollars in that scenario in a world in which Carmelo Anthony gets a million dollars for killing an innocent white kid. But the thing, here's the thing. It's a good point. But you could be proud to be Russian. You could be proud to be Italian. You could be proud to be Greek. You know what I mean? Like now a lot of black people in America until I want to say a certain point, a lot of them weren't even able to trace their ancestry to specific nationalities.

The majority of black people still to this day, right? I'd say now, like, there are a lot more resources and there's a lot more people have the ability to trace their ancestry. I mean, unless you're, like, a Nigerian dude and you're like, oh, like, he is able to trace his family lineage back by a couple generations. I would say that most black people don't really have any fucking clue, which is way different than Europe. You go to England. Every black dude in England knows where their family's from. So hence, hence black pride being more like. What else are you going to do?

Yeah. More understandable than what exactly do you have to be proud of as a collective. race as white people besides how we colonize the world we forced our religion and our ideologies on other people and we slaughtered more people than anyone in history. Well, in many

am I wrong? In many civilizations, those are things to be proud of, right? It is something to be proud of. The thing is, it's more nuanced than Lushes even admitting black people literally were used to exterminate Indians in America. That's what the Indian wars were. We whooped Indian ass

for like 12, 13, 20 years, I'm proud of that. I don't care what anyone says because that was part of us forging, like making a space for ourselves in this country and saying, look, we are capable, right? If you look at the situation like with the Civil War, 183,000 black soldiers fought in the Civil War. If you really hated white people, you really didn't want to be a part of them. When they gave you a gun, why didn't that 183,000 say, you know what, F this, they're

fighting. let's take this advantage to take a piece of America for ourselves and start building. Black people have always been proud to be a part of America. But that wasn't been fighting against slavery. That's the union soldiers fighting against slavery. Yeah, but at that point, if you wanted to be your own independent group within this continent, that was the time. Also, like, stop complaining that opportunity. Being proud of the Indian War, you feel, and me, like, think about this, bro, what about the Alamo?

There was a whole war fought because Texas. is why wanted to do what what did texas want they wanted to continue to own slaves Mexico wasn't with it i'm almost because Mexico wants to own i mean a Texas wants to own they wanted to keep slaves bro yes they want to yes they wanted to that was the primary reason they succeeded from being a part of Mexico and guess what hell is the slaves escaped to where to Mexico yeah so it's kind of like damn you're proud of something but those same people because indigenous people are essentially the same thing

that's a weird thing to be proud of if you fight and win you should be proud Texas was part of Mexico but many settlers especially Anglo-Americans wanted independence due to issues like centralized Mexican authority cultural differences in Mexico's 1830 ban on further U.S. immigration

yeah I don't know I don't know about slavery but I'll concede that to you the whole thing is like this Indians, Native Americans were slaughtering each other long before they ever saw a white man. The thing is, when they came up against a superior force, it went from being, were warring tribes, killing each other for land and hunting grounds,

to now it's all metaphysical and the great spirit has bestowed this land. They just code switched. They switched up. They moved the goalpost. And thankfully for us, the white man was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this, you guys are like warriors. So it was a war. They're called Indian wars, not the Indian genocide. So I'm not saying I'm glad that people were slaughtered I'm just glad that we came out on the winning end of this situation You know who I guarantee is experiencing a little bit of black fatigue right now Is remember I told you how I was setting up that debate between the one white dude and the black dude

Black dude just like said he was down and then like yesterday. It was just like nah like I'm in this other state I'm like I'm not there's scared I mean I don't know if he's scared but anyway scared are you and or Anyone that you want to bring, are you interested in doing this debate tomorrow? Because this guy is, otherwise he flew in for no reason. We could, listen, we could do the debate. Let's do it. Let's do it tomorrow. I think I just feel like you're going to agree with him.

There's a lot of things. There's a lot of that one around for sure. There's no way a white person can complain about the way black people are behaving. Four p.m. Wednesday, right, tomorrow. Tomorrow. All right, that's fine. Sick.

So, but the whole thing I'm saying is like, everyone should be proud of. who they are, that makes things better for everyone. Because when you got one group that's like, I have to like walk on eggshells around this other group. Eventually, like you said, it's untenable, it's unsustainable. And then you get situations like Shiloh Hendricks. So just do what you want to do. Because I don't think most white people really care about like racism.

They don't, they're not going to be like, let me go start using the N word, right? They're more like, let's talk about what's that thing with the paddle? Corporal punishment? No, with the ball. With the ball? I've never been able to do it. White ball. Okay, that's his own thing.

Pickle ball and all that. That's what they care about. It's just time for our society. And I'm not even going to say move past slavery, but it's like your spouse bringing up some old shit in a new argument, right? Hey, we got past that. Why do you keep on bringing that up? It doesn't help you.

Oh, you must know my girlfriend. Right. Yeah. It's a very feminine thing. And that is kind of a, that a lot of black men are raised by single mothers because they, they, I would feel humiliated that the only way I can contest something you're saying or a point you're making is by bringing up racism.

That means that I'm not doing what I need to do to make sure I'm abreast or enlightened or educated on the situation to truly debate with you. But a lot of men take pride in that. People like Cornell West, people like Rashad Richie, people like that jerk who you like Van Lathen. These guys are highly educated. Why you hate Van Lathen so much?

Because he's just a sim and he's just a, he's just a freaking, he's a, what's a good word? Send this to Van Lathan. We need a response. He's a freaking beta male and he's like a cuck.

Like, he's highly educated. He makes a lot of money. But if you are beating him on a point, he will start bringing up race. He will always round it back to race because they feel like that's their ace in the hole. Look,

but racism. No, man, be a man. Debate this. Be like Larry Elder or something. He's going to educate your ass. And you're going to leave like, damn, I don't even know about that. And that's what makes everybody better, raising the bar consistently. Like, there's people in audience who hate me.

They don't even realize how much education they're receiving right now. No, I get it. And they'll realize it later on. Maybe Van Lathan probably is going to be educated. No, Val Lathan would have been reduced this down to race. And you're a coon and your uncle Tom. it would have met the conversation would have never been allowed to breathe well you're deaf i i know that what you want is greatness for your people right it's clear that's what you're like

it's clearly your agenda although i think some of the the way you go about expressing it there's some there's some casualties unnecessarily people always accuse me of basically using flaco to say the things that i want to say but feel like i can't do to my skin color i would say that i basically say almost everything that I want to say regardless of being white and that at this point in time, even within hip hop doesn't really feel like it's that controversial for a white guy to say like, oh, well, maybe in this specific situation, racism is not the explanation for this social dynamic. If they were saying that about flaco, for sure, they're going to be saying it about you. But that being said, I think Brandon, like as some people don't like them,

I think you're bringing something very important to this podcast. We need this kind of viewpoint. and what really pains me is that we didn't get to see Brandon and Brick Baby together on this podcast because Brick Baby, I think, has not necessarily considered a lot of these things. He's very much like inundated in his own culture. And I would like to see him confronted by a lot of these ideas and see how he was able to deal with them. Those people, hold on. Brick grew up in a very Afrocentric household and like has read a lot and is way more. more educated than he presents.

I don't think he's a dummy by any. But beyond beyond not being a dummy, like he's privy to a lot of the ideology and conversations. There's some people who know Conrad is close. Anyway. Well, Brick baby, you know,

the thing with that is they have to talk in a way that defends and excuses the degenerate behavior that they've been a part of. Right. So he can't allow someone to like put a mirror up against what he's doing. He knows everything I know. He knows exactly where I'm going with it. He's a smart dude. But look at his actions. So the reason why a lot of black people can't accept or admit what I'm saying is because then that requires change on their part. And they're not ready to change. It's like someone who gives their life to God, right? They're going to avoid that religious

conversation completely or make some bull crap up like, I don't mess with God. He don't I stay at a God's house. He stays out of mind. Some cliche statement. I mean, the thing with Brigh baby is that, okay, he's a drug addicts. He doesn't like it. Like, he might be indulging in it right now, but he knows that this is ultimately, like, how he wants to live his life.

He knows that if he had a choice, he would make sure that his kids didn't become addicted to drugs in the way that he has. Even with the gang shit, if you had asked a 17-year-old, Brig baby, how he felt about it. He would have been wholeheartedly enthusiastic about it as he's gotten old. I think he realizes how much of it is bullshit because of the fact that, you know, even the situation he's in right now where he, you know, is getting money from somebody like me or from academics.

He's not getting money from people from his fucking neighborhood, you know? And like he understands the shortcomings of gang bang and et cetera. But even like, you know, violence, carrying guns. Brick baby, like a big part of why he's locked up is basically because he had a bunch of guns in his house. I mean, if Brick Baby was able to just live in a world in which he didn't have to carry a firearm, I'm sure he would have been happy to. This is a guy who realistically, even as a felon, knowing that he could get into the exact trouble that he's in right now,

was still moving around a certain way because the harsh reality of how he's living is that people want to kill him. He feels like he needs a gun on. I don't even know. Reading that paperwork, you start seeing situations that I didn't even know about of like, whoa, like, I guess you really did need to have a gun on you because look at all this crazy shit. It's dangerous.

Yeah. But I think a lot of people are going to make assumptions when they see Brick Baby, just based on the face chats, just based on his appearance. Perked out demeanor. Yeah, perked out demeanor. You're going to assume that he's a lot more ignorant than he really is, and he plays into that.

But, like, Brick's extremely well educated, and I think would be able to, I would like to see the Brick-branded interaction as well for that reason. I also don't think that, like, you could really put all gang members or all these guys under the same umbrella. Right, because he's not putting VARA way in the same category,

even though they're basically from a similar origin story, right? No, because he's afraid to, he don't want to put viral because that's his homeboy. Oh, yeah, you're trying to be content. Call him afraid. I like that. Get him out his box. I talk to them all the time. On the show, we had a big blow up about me bringing up DW flame. Oh, don't talk about

I told them the same way. Look, I talk about I talk however the fuck I want to talk. You can't make me not talk about somebody. The thing with our way and all these guys is, I talk to them outside of of podcasting. I know them, right? I know that they are from insane or whatever, right? But they even can see where certain things are not conducive to like, you know, prosperity.

So they will say it before I say, hey, man, that shit's out, this or that. They're from where they're from. I accept that, right? But they're not out here gang banging. They're not out here bringing guns up to no jumper. They're not out here talking about, oh, we got. to put kill squat in the street. So be from the hood. That's fine because that's for life. But are you over here reinforcing negative stereotypes? I know dudes who are real killers.

They're working for the city of Long Beach now. They working for the city of L.A. Water and Power or whatever. Making $150,000 a year on overtime, right? You was from the set, though, at one point? I was, well, I technically am still from 20s. Yeah. Because you just ain't a walk.

You're their ops now. But that's the thing. they're from a different. My dad is from insane, though. So that's the whole thing. It's like you start to kind of see the arbitrary nature of it and you say, ah, this isn't a game. I want to keep entertaining because it's not really like DPs, all that stuff.

That only happens to certain people. There are certain people who can snitch and all that and walk around L.A., and no one's going to touch them. Selective politics. Selective politics. So why would you, once you mature, why would you still want to be involved in that? Because it's just who can we pray on? Who can we hold accountable for something that we're not going to hold everybody accountable for?

Like even Doty Six. Doty Six grew up with those guys. They know him. They know he ain't got no killers to come back him up like that. So they look at him and say, he's an easy Markout. He's an easy guy who we can enforce all this arbitrary gang shit on and make a name for our hood, bring ourselves publicity. There's a guy from wherever he's from. he could do anything and they won't touch him.

I promise you. That's why when you were saying like four extras was beefing with X4, hell no. I knew that wasn't true. And oh, they're going to be here. No, what I'm saying is like,

not like that. Like they're having a disagreement, but like, oh, they're going to do something to each other. Like, no, that's for sure.

Yeah. That already happened. They're like homies though. Like, yeah, but not really. Bro. Okay, well,

bro, bro, you, you've never had that. Everyone's still existed. Could it be fixed at some point? at some point, sure, maybe. From what I've heard, it's going to take a lot. No one got killed, though.

No one's like, I'm hunting his dude down. That's what I'm talking about. In the sense of there's a mutual respect there to where like, I'm not actively going to go look for this guy. You ain't ever heard of homies killing each other? I have, but I just understand that those guys both have a lot of respect. And it's usually

in gang politics, two guys who carry a lot of way to have respect, they will rather just say, you know, we're going to just not interact with each other. versus like basically creating a rift and saying like, well, I'm looking for him, he's looking for me. I can't imagine how that would actually play out with them. That's why you can't imagine it. Well, I'm just saying, I've seen, you know, I just know a lot more about that situation that hasn't made its way to the internet.

You got, it got real messy. You got all these killers. Let me just, you got all these killers. I'm a gangsta, I'm a gangsta, I'm a good. I'm like, these niggas know exactly where to find each other on a daily basis. That's part of the problem for sure. That was, if you were that much of a killer, why don't you just go like they did in the OS? Hey, I challenge you to a duel.

We're going at it. You know why? They, but there's a reason why. There's the main reason why is because if I'm beefing with you publicly, right? And I'm like, it's up. Like Brandon did this, blah da da da da, da, da. I get smoked, you feel me? Who they going to come talk to first?

Yeah. You feel me? They go on right to your crib, player. You feel I mean? And so that's why, like, that public beeping, so you have to move a certain way if you really, especially you in the public eye. But even if, I mean, they're gang members. They're not like Navy black ops. Like, you can get them and no one knows what happens.

What I'm telling you is, it's like bullies at school. Did you notice that all the bullies at your school usually got along with each other? You never really saw them getting into it. Yeah. Because they all understand, you're going to be the bully in your area. I'm going to be the bully in my area. You're going to be the bully in this area. And what you will encounter, which is what I.

I learned different dudes from different hoods be hanging out with each other. Like the top dogs, you'll catch them all in one room. Why? Because they all have a higher, greater understanding of how to manipulate these little ponds underneath them. So they're just like, I know what he's doing. I know what time this guy's on. So I don't need to go in exact revenge against him because he's controlling his element. I'm controlling mine.

And that helps us all come up. Oh, you're one of those Black Panthers are a lot. syeop guy, aren't you? You believe the Black Panthers is a sciop. I don't believe they're a siop. Oh, don't crack that can of one. Yeah. No, but the reason why, because, because like, do you believe in, like, the original Cripping? No, I don't even believe in that.

Community Revolutionaries. They should have been originally starting, like, a political party or something. They did that. They did that. They want to make some happen. Okay. So, I feel like we are... We've gotten a little all over the place here, which I think it was good. I think it was good. We ironed out some stuff there. But let's try to hit some topics and everything, because, you know, I think it would

interesting. I guess I'll just throw this out there first. You and Sharp. Oh, Sharp's a motherfucking bitch. How did this get amplified to such a degree that you're talking about flying out there to fight him? And I do feel like talking about Sharp is way below us at this point in the history of the podcast. It's kind of like me talking about TRL. It's just like at a certain point when somebody's content is getting that much less views than yours at a certain point, you kind of just got to leave him alone.

but you guys have been going back and forth and I'm curious. I know back and forth, he's terrified at the prospect of me beating shit down his leg. Wait, what is beating shit down his leg? Like his dick? Well, you're right, though. He does prefer piss than shit, right? You know, I should bring him a bottle of piss. But didn't he say that he was going to fly you to Vegas to fight?

He says a lot of things. But if you can't afford rent in the greater Los Angeles municipality and you just lost your rent-a-center, repoed all your furniture, you now live in a studio apartment in Las Vegas, which costs less than me using my washing machine where I live at, you feel me? I don't even think you have the financial capabilities to fly me anywhere. How did you guys start going back and forth?

Well, I mean, I basically let him, basically anybody at him that I've ever gone back and forth with, they started it, you feel me? I don't know. I'm a peaceful, loving person. I don't start shit. But guess what? I'm also on my bully shit.

Sharp a bitch and he getting marked out And he's getting marked out for several reasons One, the way that he abuses women You feel me? His way, manipulating young women The way he fetishizes Let's take a look at that Let's take a look at that one clip where he had

Where he was interviewing the one midget chick And he was like, oh, you got your little pennies on You got, he didn't say pennies, you got Dora the Explorer undies on He's talking about He's fetishizing little girls Tell telling him She got Dora the Explorer. Undies.

He used the word undies, all right? Then let's talk about how not only did he sexually harassed every single woman that set foot in this office, but now he's making it a thing that he's, he wants, uh, Sydney who made the, the Pimp Cup, like, I'm going to get it back for us. Like that, that wasn't fucked up. Shorty showed me a lot of love because she got a secret Santa assignment to get you a gift and went on Etsy. She was required to get you that gift.

She thought she had to do something. She thought since you're like this walking embodiment of a larker, this, this stereotype of a pimp that you try to embody. She's like, oh, wouldn't it be funny? Kind of like, you know how little John has a pimp cup? Maybe this retard who pretends to be a pimp would like to have a pimp cup too. And she bought it on Etsy. And he feels like, hey, Shorty, I'm going to do this for both of us. And now he's trying to lure her into his orbit of seediness.

Although Shorty don't follow him. She was creeped out by him that day And it's not said a word to him since then Now he's trying to bring her into it The same way he sexually harassed various mods I mean I could go on and on I'm selling Sharp out But not physically because when I see him

I'm fucking him up so bad There's no there's no Reality in which I don't beat this shit out of Sharp Matter of fact I got 50 bands on it I'll up 50 bands right now I got 50 50 bands on it Matter of fact if Sharp beats my ass I will not only quit no jumper, I'll erase all of my music from digital streaming platforms and delete my YouTube channel.

I don't know if you want to do that. No, because no, because no, Sharp is a pussy. He won't fight anybody. Can you get this guy some boxing lessons? I mean, I look at Sharp. I feel like he might have denser muscle tissue than you. No offense. That's cool.

I don't think you should be that sure about you winning that back. But here's why I know, because I looked into his soul. And I saw a bitch. I think Sharp doesn't fight because one, you guys talked about another episode. He's like always was drunk when he was coming in here. But that usually makes people fight more. No, but some people, they know when they're drunk, they're not shit in a fight. So some people just like tolerate a lot of shit because they're like, even if I jump up and fight this person, I'm probably going to lose because I'm drunk off my ass.

I think that's more his thing. The thing about Sharp is like, can you imagine a scenario in which anyone could have worse cardio? Oh yeah, exactly. Yourself to death every day for like the past 20, 30 years. You smoke so many cigarettes. You probably smoke like four cigarettes an hour. You're probably blasting through two or three packs in a day. And then you probably, I would assume, have never exercised.

You've never gone your heart rate up. Like, I mean, that is a man who could really drop dead at any given time. And I feel like if I was going to fight him as a person who's capable of running around the block, I for sure would give that boy some laps until I was ready to knock his ass out because he's gonna get so... He's like the 100 guys fighting the gorilla. He's probably got gorilla cardio.

If I was him, I would make sure I guard my kidney, you feel me, which is severely debilitated by the copious amount of alcohol. He's essentially a human life support system for poison at this point. Like, he is a human life... And I use the word human generously with that white boy. You do that...

With sharp that... white bitch that white bitch sharp he just half black no he's white no okay you do you do know that the number one cause of new kidney failure cases is the use of methamphetamines yeah so he tested clean for i haven't taken it only it only stays your sister for three days we know the trick lush pool no i'll take another drug test because i'm not doing meth and it wouldn't even matter random drug tests on a podcast i'm not i don't care like it like it don't matter here's the thing let's use ultra self-awareness for a second, right?

Of course. Lush has a big need to prove himself, right? Some might say that. Lush is willing to go to, yeah, Lush is willing to go to great lengths to prove himself. Oh, well, yeah, yeah. But what are you trying to prove by beating up Sharp, though? I'm just saying, I'm just saying Lush has goes to great lengths to prove himself, right? And Sharp is a guy who avoids these type of confrontations at all costs because he's embarrassed

have the potential of him getting his ass beat. The thought of him taking an L to me is so terrifying to him, whereas to me, it wouldn't even matter. You feel me? He can rip the dentures out of my mouth, throw him on the ground and stop on them, and I'll still be lush for it and I'll still be more important. I'll still be more legendary than him,

and I won't give a fuck. But he's terrified, have the thought of a public alter. So why don't we do this, Sharp? Fight me. I'll fight you whenever, and if you run to any of my people, they're going to do whatever they do to you. It's on site.

it's up but but but 50 bands on a fight we could do it like I don't want gloves because I want to feel I want to feel the curvature of his cheek around my fist when his fucking jaw breaks you know I put his bitch-ass phone number on my Instagram story by the way you guys want to prank call a bunch of cocaine bots to check yeah yeah sharp the bitch no I put his I put his I put his bitch phone number because he's a bitch doxing as a former revenge seems like maybe not the best I do no I just thought it'd be funny. I'm styling. So this fool,

I'm styling. This fool's sending, my girl's like, babe, like someone, like your phone's going off. I'm like, damn, who's calling me at 6.45 in the morning? It's sharp. Hours after I said, drop ski, brother, drop low. I will drive to Vegas. You ain't got to spend your last money. I will drive to Vegas right now.

Beat the living shit out of you and be home in time for the no jumper show. And his pussy has to in to respond till the wee hours of the morning. when normal people are asleep and crackheads that are addicted to fucking bell air champagne wake up. You do you be drinking bell air. Yeah. Somebody has to drink it.

I've never seen anybody drinking it before him. I used to get it for free in the mail. I got a few cases of it. Except for the guy that looks like the dude that Brandon looks up to on YouTube. Rose. What with that being said? Damn, I look up to him now. I thought you admired him greatly.

Yeah. I thought it was Rick Ross. I didn't. And then I briefly thought maybe it was him. Maybe you should just destroy Sharp in the booth. That seems to be good. I've already, but to me that's a bit. I mean,

like I've wrapped. He gets dissed on every song. I talked about how his mother molested him. Like, why do you think that? I mean, because this is why he has this severe hatred against women. You feel me?

Like, he has this hatred against women. And it's very common for like a lot, a lot of pimps used to get sent by their aunties. You feel me? They used to get hoed. So Sharp started his career. year being a ho. Sharp was on the blade, getting fingered, you know, being, you know, he put on a,

he put on some nice little Dorothy's four undies, and he got fingered, you know, like the bitch that he is. And then he tried to manipulate women who have suffered sexual abuse. So all the Sharps fans, men and women, are all in this thing that I want to call victim gang. So if you're a fan of the Sharp tank, you're reppping victim gang, and you are now all in this emotional support group for the abuse you endured and it's kind of like your trauma bonding over what Sharp put you through. Now, someone may ask, blush, you're friends with some pimps. You fuck with almighty suspect. For sure, I saw that on the Reddit. I fuck with realism. I fuck with people that don't need to manipulate. When I think of a pimp, I think of somebody like, my homeboy, free little C,

someone that girls gravitate to. Women like to be around them. They want to be in their presence. Not someone that is literally a scavenger looking for the lowest common denominator of of women that have been abused and gone through, like, unspeakable things, and then try to manipulate them to curry favor with them in order to profit off of their trauma, which is what a bitch-like Sharp does. That's not realism. That's not a real game.

That's guerrilla pimping. That's actually a violation of the rules of pimpin. Gorilla pippin is where he beat their ass as well. And that's why he's so adverse to the quote-unquote digital pivot. That's why he, although he would never disrespect Soss Walker to his face, you feel me? This is why he had a problem with what Sauce Walker is doing. This is why he was tripping on Big Church,

who makes a significantly amount more revenue off the pussy than Sharp does. Because why? Because they're doing things. They're helping women earn money in a way that's safe for them. It doesn't put them in danger. Whereas Sharp would rather drug-addicted welfare moms with STDs. He would like to put them on the blade to potentially get abused and get hurt. More on his level.

But this is the thing. First of all, suspect is a pimp, right? You have to put Phil before that. He's a felt rapper. Felt pimp. Felt gang member. I mean, and soon to be a Felt podcaster, right? So he's

just an expert at failing. But you're a hypocrite because you talk about all this shit when it comes to Sharp. Well, if suspect was a pimp, he would be operating in that same lane. Stop. You're being arbitrary right now. Because pimping women is

exploitation of women. So, when you're Like, I'm doing this for the hose that Sharp was exploiting and yelling at. I would say that a dude, I would say at least Sharp is honest about who he is. He's not trying to hide. He's not like suspect who was interested in a romantic relationship with Jalise, failed at that. And then, you know, basically tapped into that same animosity to, like, curse that poor girl out in exposure business. I don't believe we have proof for that. For the record.

No, no, you are a hypocrite. You are a hypocrite. I'm not even good. And I'm tired of your hypocrisy because that shit's like traveling over here by osmosis onto me. And so that's why I keep inching a little bit, you know, further from you every second. You got, if you hate, if you condemn sharp, you must condemn suspect. If you don't condemn suspect, you just need to shut the fuck out. No, but there's a big difference.

There's a big difference. No, no, no, no, no. There's a big difference. Do you think the police are going to say like this, this dude is pimping and pandering. He's going to get a man to train eight years. This dude is pimping him. No, of course they're going to give suspects a hard of the time.

He's a black man. But he's a black man. Sharp's a white boy. Of course the judicial system is going to be a lot more generous towards him. He's white. He has white privilege. Suspect is a black man. He's Mexican.

There's more Mexicans in jelly. What is he? Sharp's not Mexican. What is he? He's black and white, right? He's white. He looks like. Is this dad's more black?

No, no, no. Full black, his dad looks whiter than Donnie. Oh, so you're a racist? No, he might be like, he might have like one-tenth. I'd love to see shrubs, strong-free and me. He got one drop. Did you just poke me in the shoulder? Do you are?

Listen, man, what are you going to do? What are you going to bring out a whip next? And fucking start. Listen, listen. That would be crazy. I'm sensitive about my backside around you guys, so don't be touching my back. All right. I'll make sure to poke your chest like Travis Ford did to me.

Listen, hey, Travis Ford, by the way, I defending him about, coming this dude just sat there like bro i defended you and you got up in this bitch like you like you sped bro like talk bro that's my favorite thing is people who want to be a part of the channel and then they get a chance on the channel i'm really mad at rogu that's to him because when you got me rainwater and whack is going to be hard to get a word in no no full full offense to this bro rag rogu is about you you listen man you are in a room that you have you have fought to get into. I don't care if you got to be like,

whack, shut the fuck up and say something because they get to be here every day. You don't. And you basically damn their guy humiliated for that opportunity. Bro, you got to do better. Bro, Rogan, I'm pissed off of him because I know Bro Rogan's ability.

And when he was in there was stuttering ass flaco and Traplor Ross, that was Bro Rogan's time to really just take him to- You know how he held it down? I think he didn't do enough. Was he struck by Traplor Ross a little bit?

Man, no one starts struck by that fool. What I'm saying is bro, Bro Rogan is my bro. Bro Rogan is my bro. Traplorosa beat your ass. Bro rogan is my bro. Like, I like him a lot. And I know what he can do.

And I just felt like if I'm sitting listening to a pod, why do I have to listen to Flaco talk to Traplora Ross? I don't like British accents. I think the shit's overdone. And Flacco is like, he's my brother, but he'd be stutter on. a lot. So it's like, you need breaks from that. And I just felt like Bro Rogan

should have stepped up and be like, I'm going Bro Rogan this motherfucker like, take control of this conversation and be more like a mediator. So the whole thing is like, I got a professional issue with Bro Rogan because he's my bro and he's a professional. Travis Ford, I'm just like,

come on, man, you got to give us some of that charisma that you're selling us through the rap song. You blowing a big weed cloud on him while he's in the middle of his monologue is pretty funny. You piece of shit. If he's took off on you. I wouldn't be that surprised. Hey,

blowing it at me. I like it. Hey, I'm from where you got to keep a thumper player. Just worry about that. That's all you need to know. Van Nuys, motherfucker.

Man eyes, not either. That's way too low class. Hey, bro. What up? You from West L.A. You from West L.

Conrad from the Abbas here. Hey, how are you doing this? Hey, we're talking about a lot of gangster shit. We didn't have no goddamn gangster representation. Besides, yeah.

Besides Lush. Hey, hold on here. Say all that shit about gang members of a comrade. You was just popular. the Crips are no good. You just popping all this shit about gang members,

Sager Conrad. What are you wanting to say? He said that gang members are making all black people look bad. He'll even admit that. He knows it's true. Come on. This is not a conversation. He said the original.

Maybe you can't say it. The original definition of Crip community revolutionary in progress is a, he don't believe in that. That shit been gone a long time ago. I like the, I like the tennis, by the way. The tennis going crazy. We really threw you in the trick back with this one.

You show up and they did it. Free brick, baby. Free brick, baby. Free brick. Don't love his shoulder. God, that's true. I love him. That's good.

I don't know, bro. I ain't got no opinion on that shit, bro. I don't know. It's a whole lot of the motherfuckers fucking up the community, bro. Mostly guys. Making black people for us making black people look back. Um. I think that to be 100%

I think that every race has a culture of destruction. You feel I mean? Like, it's just like that. We don't make the real. We don't make the rules. He's 100% right. So every culture has a culture of destruction.

I mean, I feel like every race, every race has like at least some percentage. I mean, if you want to talk about white people, it makes me think about like going to Florida as a kid and like I knew some people who knew some people in a trailer park and we show up to the trailer park and all the bitches are pregnant and they all smoking cigarettes. I'm from a white culture. I ain't never seen that shit before and I don't be real with you. I ain't really seen it since.

There's a lot of degenerate behavior from low class people of all races. But I wouldn't say that that is the majority of white people nor is the worst shit that we're going to talk about with black people. I can be able to say that the majority of my This is the most important point That could be made in this whole conversation You got with bro White people bro, white people bro got A bunch of shit where y'all look crazy

First of all Duh What the fun? You're talking about Shiloh Hendricks It's a I don't know what the fuck that it The white girl was calling the black kid of N-word On the playground No you see that one

No why you ain't seen that fool No, I ain't seen it. Oh, bro. I didn't see that. No, no, you need to watch it. A lot of people are really mad at me for putting it on my story with Happy Mother's Day over it. Which I thought was pretty funny. That's like, that's a mom.

Here's a thing. Everybody got crazy shit, right? But black people, we take things and we take it to the extreme. Like, you've been to white Baptist church, right? They might sing some songs, sway clapping. One of them might get a little bit into it and freaking go a little crazy on one or two notes. they gave that to black people Yeah

Black people start Falling down all in the aisles The singing, the music is amazing Did black people invent that or was that a white thing first? White people did it But black people took that shit to the next level Wait whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait No you talked

You talked you talked You didn't call the nigga out Here's the thing So we do extras on everything So when you talk about the white trailer park Okay we understand that there's a trailer park white people, the white people who live up in the Catskill Mountains and all that.

The Whitakers. The Appalachians. The Hatfields and the McCoys, right? Yeah. Everything white people do, you're going to make it home for dinner. You know what I'm saying? Hold on.

Wait, let me say this. Let me say this. Now you're buddy. Now your buddy. Let me see. Listen, name one white community that had 85 people shot in one weekend.

In the past, you just said it's shot. You just say it's shot. And it's like, all right, all right, cool. I understand you're saying gun violence, but we can talk about drugs. We could talk about suicide. We could talk about, like, bro, it's a whole lot going on in different communities. That's just, like, at an all-time high, that thing not talking about, bro.

That's crazy than some goddamn game. So there's making it home safe, and then there's 85 people shot, and there's no one between, according to Brandon's logic. That's just not saying this for what it is. 85 people shot and how long in a week one weekend but white people don't have to worry about it in Chicago okay keep wait hold on Lush let me say this Lush I heard that shit happen a white man did it every nah not even with the white match shooters you don't have 85 people see that's a white man shooting people are like a large percentage of shootings in America like one percent it's tiny

black people are killing more black people in a year than any mass shooting is killing. But what I'm saying is this. Yes, you might have the drugs. You might have the suicide. But most of that shit is self-inflicted. You're doing that to yourself. Now there might be a residual impact.

What the shit black people do, you could come back from being a drug addict. You could come back from suicidal thoughts, go talk to somebody or kill yourself, which is what you want to do. And that's your choice. You're your body. The things black people do,

they create victims. that have nothing to do with what's going on. Like the dude, hold on. Like the dude shot out of the guy, missed him. He hit a 61-year-old man, and he died. I mean, it is. There's not that many, like, white problems of that sort. Like, when we talk about white gangs, it's like a joke.

People laugh at me if I even bring it up because it exists in such a tiny percentage of the United States. Hold on. What's the last two words you said? United States. So let's look at countries like Russia. No, we're not going out. What do you mean? Why?

Why all of a sudden? Only in America. No, no. You're moving the goalpost. No, I'm not. You're talking about issues that are particular to a race. This should don't even happen in Africa. I don't feel like Russia has the kind of honor culture that ends up with these sort of like death cult things that we have in America's inner cities.

There's definitely, there's definitely incidents of mass murdering in all throughout Eastern Europe. But I feel like mass murdering is less interesting to us when we have this conversation because those situations are always going to be outliers in comparison to like gang members. going back and forth, killing each other over disrespect, which seems like it's a real problem. Dude, like they, and that literally exists, there's gangs in third world countries in that, you don't think that there's probably fucking GDs and Crips in the Czech Republic. I watch.

That gang banging and gang shit is cooling shit, but I don't think that it's the craziest thing happening in the world. I don't think it's... Amongst black people and all that. I don't think, I think that shit is like small when it comes to its shit going on, bro. It's wars. It's other shit.

going on to other countries that you don't even know about. Like, you're trying to make it a United States thing. Yeah, he just moved a goalpost with that, though, right? Don't get confused. Let me take a super quick break here. I just want to tell y'all they, I want you to check out what I got right here from my E420 app. We're actually going to do an unboxing right now to show you guys something that we're very excited about.

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He's like, this is right. This is a rub. This is trying to turn you on, bro. And you can tell. by the texture of the bag that this has to die for natural causes. You like smoking shit. I do enjoy smoking shit.

Yeah, man, that's the... Go ahead. You're going to get loose cannon high while you're in here today because you don't normally be around this shit. I think it already happened. Listen, man, I'm getting blamed for the racial topics and y'all brought that shit up. What I'm going to tell you is every gang member know

about gang banging. If this shit wasn't the worst shit, it's the worst shit happening to us. And that's what... And that's what you have to focus on. I don't give a fuck about a Russian. Wait a minute. I don't care about a Russian. I don't care about what's happening in East India.

What I do know is this. If there was a situation in any country other than America where 85 people died in one weekend, people are consistently getting shot. This city has become synonymous with murder, right? The authorities in that country will go and snuff out that criminal element because they're going to say, look, you're killing taxpayers. You're killing the people who give us the authority to rule over everybody. Only in America, only in Democrat-run areas is everything, violence, murder, all that.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You mean major metropolitan areas? Let me finish. Let me finish. That is where blatant savagery is dismissed as being caused by slavery. If it's caused by slavery, we should be doing. this to white people. It's not just... How you're going to tell me you beat me.

You, your ancestors, your Jewish ancestors, enslaved us. Why am I killing him over that? My ancestors ain't enslaved you? Not Jewish people were complicit in a slave trade. But what I'm telling you is this is, wait, let me finish. Well, your Italian side. Let me think. Let me think.

Benito Mussolini. People like black people. My great father got shot by Mussolini. Okay, so there, that's good. But what I'm saying is, if you did something to me, Adam, two, 300 years ago, why am I killing him for that? I should be killing 85 of you in a weekend. You know what I'm watching.

I think that's why people are getting right because of what happened. Yeah. He's just right. Yeah. I don't know. That kind of stuff hasn't been. No. No.

No. What happened that has this game ringing? Look. Because, okay, income inequality, they take all the broke house people. They put them in one area and then those people inevitably end up killing each other. And because of our histories of race in this country, the people that end up in the poor areas, the people who end up in O block, are largely black.

It's almost like it's a cliche. It's almost like the tone of his voice would imply that it's not true, but it's the fact that it's so fucking obvious. And that's 1,000% the fact. So how is that not an excuse, bro? Like, what do you mean? Like, so gang ring is not worked at what you all thinking, like what y'all like making it to be.

It's not like, it's just a bunch of people from somewhere. that's together. You see, you might be like a loner kid. You might be like one of those kids that like couldn't hang out. He's from a hood. You feel me? Like, you probably like was one of those kids that just was like, you know, always like to be by yourself and an outsider.

We're like a family of people like that just grew up together. And sometimes you kill ops, right? Well, no, he's talking about. Some people are smoking up. No, no. mass make. It's somehow it doesn't do

with that. Because I hear you that like 95% of gang life is nonviolent but then it is peppered with acts of extreme violence

right? And that's what people take issue. And if we're talking about a historical context. I think that some gangs and gangs

should get out of hand when it's a group of people and shit get kind of out of hand it can go a lot of different ways when it comes

to a group of people. You feel I mean? Like, that's just how I see it. Like, when you come to a group of group of people, you know what I mean? Like, it could be, if it's, if it's, if it's a, uh, a, a 20 and you and your guys out somewhere

at a bar, y'all fuck wrong, gonna have a bar fight. Hmm. Right, right. And I run into some other dudes, Tony of them. Yeah, we act like white boys aren't catching things over fucking, like baseball games. Everybody has a lot of them. But they're just catching phase and then they don't hunt each other down and kill each other after a lot. Not necessarily.

This is not mutually. Shit. It's not. because then why okay so so black and brown people and then what about the Asian so it's just white people that don't do it I'm not saying they all do it but there is like a lot of the roots of the most deadly gang conflicts in urban areas are literally like everybody goes to a party one guy bumps into another one fast forward 20 years is like a hundred dead bodies as a result of this exactly I'm just trying to say that it's not mutually exclusive to the black race or like if you can look if you

man listen you can read books like monster by monster Cody Scott and shit they can pinpoint the day, hour, time, party where like 90% of this shit started. So if you know that if this beef happened between two dudes who you never met, got no connection to, why are you fighting their family's blood feud for them for 30, 40, 40? No, wait a minute. Wait, let me make this point. Yep. If you go to slavery, right, you had slavery, which, let's, let me.

to like Jim Crow, which led to like segregation, etc, etc., etc. All that is good. But if that is the cause of why you're doing what you're doing, why aren't you killing white people? There are the people who did it to you. Why would you want to aggress upon each other for something? You're being racist, that's all.

See, no, but I have been racist. That's a race. That's like a race. I agree with him the whole time. That's like a race thing. It sounds like, like, it sounds like you have like a, you know what I mean? So, like, motherfuckers ain't on that. Like, that's what it is.

Like, motherfuckers ain't on that. Like, straight ever day. Because it's not about, like, defeating the root of the problem of who disrespected your grandparents or enslaved your great, great, great grandparents or whatever. It's about settling tit for tat disputes within the community with people that you have issues with. Like, that ends up being the thing that gets addressed with deadly violence. By killing him. Yeah.

Yeah. Because, because, because, and killing nobody. going to make nothing right. So nobody should, it shouldn't be like, oh, yeah, well, since you're doing this, just do that. No, motherfuckers just need to cut it out. And it's that simple. You just cut it out, period, bro.

Not like, all right, we need to go over here and do that. In a perfect world, the culture as a whole would be able to come together and say, all this shit is so wrong that we need to shun it. However, we don't really see anything like that. In actuality, we see somebody like Nikki Minaj who acts like it's ridiculous that drill songs are being banned from the radio because, oh, well, they don't punish, you know, Hank Williams when he's singing, uh, you know, I killed a man in Vegas or whatever, which is like the absolute dumbest argument in the history of mankind because these dudes are literally writing songs about killing

each other back to back the day after they kill each other, which is a lot different than like a song that's a storytelling song about a fake body that never actually happened, you know, because the rapping about fake bodies that never actually happened was largely what was going on in gangster rap for like all of the 90s. Now we have a lot of exceptions. Tupacet ain't ever killed nobody. Ice Q never killed no fucking body. But that's like saying

Hot Boy by Bobby Smurter should have been banned from the radio from the judge. Bobby Smurter ain't killing nobody. There's specific bodies and killers being named in that record. I mean, do you think that the radio in Chicago should be platforming or should be playing King Vaughn's music? I mean, really, if there's any conscience available

to these radio stations, I don't know how they could possibly justify that. I don't mean, I think that like specific words and phrases being censored absolutely I understand you know what I'm like I just sit back

and imagine this a little bit one time how the fuck would the world be better they would be

better I feel like he's not even close to done that sense though like look how the world would be

without rap the way it is yeah probably a lot less violence. Let's be totally real. I mean, I hate to say it because

this is really kind of how I make my living, but it feels like without rap, the world would be probably better. How would you be sitting here peacefully doing this podcast without violence behind it? I totally agree with that. I can acknowledge that there is this is something that I'm interested in

that I don't think is necessarily good for society. But don't you think like, when you look at the drill music thing, I mean, right there, look at all these dead people that really would not be dead if it wasn't for people promoting warfare in this music. I would be just sitting here lying my

house. But that's not necessarily true because if you look at the 90s, there's actually a higher murder rate in Chicago. That's a lie. That's not true. That's a lie. The murder rate has a drive in 20, 30 years. They're not reporting. They're not reporting.

Anymore? No, they were reporting more now. And they were saying it was COVID. Even now in L.A.? The crime rate in L.A., wait, let me say this. But the moderate rate is dropping so ridiculously. I feel like drill and like gang warfare is like the exception to that. All it is. So y'all think that gang violence is what the most people die from in the world?

Obviously. No, no, no, no. In inner cities, I think that for sure, like a young person losing their life is probably mostly due to gun-based warfare. No, that's not it. What? Abortion. Oh, I mean, that's another.

Yeah. Most of us wouldn't really because of that's. I just want to say this point. You contribute this stuff to typical liberal-minded guy. Oh, it's poor people around poor people. And then poor, you're equating poor to violent. But in reality, in history, the poor people were the most peaceful people because they didn't have much. So they really were kind of like, I'm trying to survive.

So I don't got time to aggress against anybody. So what happened? What happened was you removed black fathers from homes. You deconstructed the nuclear black family, which created a situation that your word became untenable for black mothers, right? You offered them welfare and all these things and said, you can't get this if there's a man living with you. The black man, obviously, the black unemployment rate forever has been like 25, 30 percent.

So he's struggling to survive. He's like, I can barely take care of myself, let alone my family, and I can't work with my woman to make things work because now she's saying, you got to go so I can feed the kids. The destruction of the black family led directly to the destruction. of the black community. This is already documented. So it ain't about being poor because in 1940, one in three black families owned a home. One in five black families had a car, a luxury vehicle. We had our own economy. But once you, once Martin Luther King came in and said, hey, guys, let's go hang out with white people. Let's get beat up so we can eat a sandwich next to

Adam 24. That led directly to the destruction of the black economy. So he just, And our economy died, our economy died so that we could join into the white economy. And once that happened, we begin to be outpaced because now you can be segregated against if what you're participating in is not your own. Like if you fire me, I don't even work here, but say I worked here and you fire me, right? He's saying it's true. If you fire me and I work here, I got my own YouTube channel to go back to. But if I forfeit my YouTube channel, let it die, right?

and you fire me, I live in fear every day that you're going to get rid of me because I don't have nothing to fall back on. And that's what happened with black people during desegregation. And we gave up our own baseball league. That was awesome. If this was pre- YouTube, if this was 20 years ago,

then you, like, let's say this was a radio station and you work at the radio station, you get fired, you're fucked. So, you know, because, you know, but we don't actually live in a time now where somebody, got power over your success. Boom. We don't live there.

We agree with you. We're not there now. We're not in that. That's not the situation. People that put their self in those situations and mentally there, that's on them. You know what I mean? But the real world actually, where we at, your success doesn't have anything to do with nobody.

Didn't I tell you? I told you. I said all the gang members, if you get them in the room, they will eventually arrive at what he just said. One thing about gang members, they are capable of taking. extreme accountability. I've never talked to a gang member who went to jail and was like, nah, man, that was all the system and all this stuff.

Most of them dudes just me like, man, I was fucking up. You know what I'm saying? I got caught, whatever. This dude snitched on me, whatever. That's fine. But a lot of, like, people think gang members and police officers have animosity. Most gang members understand that police officers are doing the job they're paid to do, and I'm doing the shit I'm doing.

You really think most? I don't know like that's the tone that I got from most gang members I thought to with the cops. No, talk to them, even dudes who've been to prison. You know, the guards give you respect. You get him respect. They understand that. But the thing is you got people like Lush.

There's accountability there. You got people like Lush who is, he's associated with the culture, but he really, basically you're engaged in a soft form of racism because you don't believe that black. I know. I know. I know. I knew this. No, but this is what you're doing.

I was waiting for this. You're trying to remove accountability from black people when black people know good and damn well what we're doing. that makes our community the way it is. You got to let people stand in their accountability until they say, you know what? Like he said, no one's got a glass ceiling over you anymore. Look, look, there's a difference between, I agree, people should be held accountable, and black people are definitely responsible for it.

No, shut you. You just sat here talking about slavery. Hold on, hold on. But at the end of the day, I'm not going to not take into account the conditions that people were put into. and I'm never going to stop looking at it that way no matter what you said. You ain't about the 360 deal with me on this podcast, bro. You're trying to move the fucking goalposts.

No, I'm not. The thing about, though, when it comes to gangs, bro, like, gangs are going to be. They're always going to be. And they're not mutually exclusive to race. They were. Yes, they were.

They just was not called what they were called. You know what I mean? They just was not These different names These particular people These particular black folks Was not in this district At a point of time

So they didn't represent this district You know what I mean? But these black folks They represented each other as a whole Everywhere they went No matter what it was Through generations These black people

Stayed together And they represented Whatever they represented As a whole Wherever they went bro That's just That's Before you

Wait, before you make this point, fuck no, fuck no. I have your permission to just drop a huge jewel on this situation? Yeah, I'm going to listen on my phone while I go take a piss. Okay, cool.

Well, look at, listen. Gang, gang stuff always evolves. White people start the first gangs of America. Correct. But those gangs evolved, so they became the police department. Stop, wait, wait, wait.

There's a difference between accountability and impression. You need to listen. You need to listen. All right, all right. The white gangs evolved into the police. Yeah. I'm going to keep saying a lot. The white gangs evolve into the police department.

The weights, the unions, all these things. They turn from illegal criminal organizations to technically legal organizations. That's where organized crime eventually came to legal crime. Now, black gangs, they also have to go. I'm going to Jewish. I know all about it. I know all about it. So black gangs have to go through that same evolution, whether we like it or not.

If we don't, we get stuck in the perpetual. And I don't see how, how are you, how are black people being stifled in this instance? You've not let me explain it to you. Okay, go ahead. Okay. So black people are in a perpetual loop right now because we have a culture that basically ostracizes us for trying to move the gang shit into a legal category. So like even, even with. The political parties already did that.

So even do, no, no, no. Yes, they have. Even dudes like 600. right like let's say 600 okay this guy is a crib but now whatever he's doing is technically legal right he's kind of like i'm a law enforcement he has immunity because of law enforcement whatever but what you're implied but what i'm telling you is you're calling 600 a cop no no i'm not what you're saying it what you're seeing play out between big you and 600 which i understand strolling that is the natural evolution big you represents the old way 600 and other dudes like whack represent the

the evolution of that. We're not just in petty gang crime. We're evolving this into like legitimate, very very lucrative legal business dealings. Big U was still engaged in low level extortion.

And so now you're seeing a changing of the guard with the end of like the snitching culture, the no stitcher, all that's dying. You feel like it's the last days. It's the last days. Everyone's trying to move their shit to a more legal. That happened with white people. That happened with the Italian mob. There came a time when this was no longer your word tenable.

So they had to move it for their survival of their communities and culture. They had to make illegal into legal. So there's not already a lot of affluent black people in communities making a lot of money off of legal means. But most of those people didn't come from the gang culture. Correct. Like if you look at Al Capone them, even at one point they said, man, we got to like start casinos and shit. Because we got to go legit because this shit's catching up to us and we can't outright. bank robbers, baby face Nelson,

you know, these guys that are white, like you, all those dudes. They eventually said, damn, what did they do? The mobsters separated from the bank robbers, even though they were all in league, but the mobsters realized this bank robbery shit is dying.

They're not tolerating this. So they moved on to the point where they said, go watch the movie, what's the movie with Johnny Depp? The one with the, they were robbing. Pirates of the Caribbean. No, shut up. The one where they're robbing the banks. Public enemy, right?

If you look at that movie, there's a scene in the movie where what's the guy's name who was robbing the banks? The main one. Dillinger. John Dillinger, John Dillinger, when he would rob a bank, he had all these safe houses he would go to that were run by the mob. They protect him. There's a scene in the movie where he tries to go to a safe house. They said, you can't stay here. He said, why?

Well, this guy said you can't stay here. He goes to meet with one of the head guys in the mom. mob. The mob guy said this. He said, when you rob a bank and you give us, bring us money, we're making like 600,000 per robbery. He said, you see these phones, a legal phone service, operating service. He said, these phones are making what you make in every bank robbery in an hour. You can't stay anymore. They separated from the criminal element to go to legal route. And black people, black gang, even gang members, they have to. separate from that. And I'm telling you it's possible

because in Long Beach, that's exactly what happened in my city. These guys were killers. Now they're working for the water department, the refuse department, chief investigator of the refuse department, stuff like that. Because why? They took the illegal shit and they

separated and went legal. That's the evolution of gangs, but we're just dealing with the bloody last days of it. That's it. I mean, I think, but here's the thing, but you seem to feel like it's a political issue of the at the end of the day. You have a lot of hatred towards any type of liberalism, right?

No? No, no. But, like, that seems to be, like, the main thing that a lot of your points, like, hinge upon is being conservative. And, like, holding this high standard, pull yourself up by your bootstrap mentality. You want to apply the same mentality to the black community that you see the white people doing. And you think that's going to make you more successful.

You know nothing about black people. Black people are naturally. culturally conservative. I'm not talking about black people. I'm not talking about you and your talking points. We started the Republican part. Right. Don't you ever forget that. Abraham Lincoln is a conservative. I understand that. We're not. So I'm right. So like I said, all your points are hinging and finding a political ideology. So what I'm doing is returning us back to our original form versus the degenerate chaotic form that we've morphed into. So every, if you look at me and say, Brandon's a coon, no, you're a coon because you don't even know enough about your history to

understand that everything I'm saying is what helped black people survive when they came out of slavery. We came out of slavery with nothing. In 10 years, we had burgeoning communities, our own banks, all that. How? Because we had the mindset that I'm embodying today. And who fucked that shit up, white people? No. Who fucked up Black Wall Street?

Black people love giving shit away for white acceptance. Martin Luther King fucked that shit up. I don't be real with you. He told black people, I have a dream that I'll be judged by the content of my, character not the color of my skin. Look, Martin, here's the thing. You're your people. So what point are we making?

Like, what is it? So many. What is it? We're potting. We be potting. What is it all like? That's what I want to know. Like, what you actually trying to say for is you're saying,

black people gave away what? Our intelligence for, for white acceptance. You're a rapper. And what? Yeah. You're a rapper. All right.

Where you are to, day would be totally different. If you didn't have rappers in the 90s who has so little faith in their own talent that they were willing to sell that shit for pennies on the dollar to a white guy. And now white Jewish people like him control hip-hop. But that's, but that's not, but that's not, but that's not. And now that's why you see artists now, wait a minute, that's them not understanding. Wait a minute.

Listen. The industry. No, no. At that time, if you wanted to have success as a rapper, you basically had no choice but to work with labels. No, because you have- They got flu flams. No, you had dudes. You had dudes like E-40. You had dudes like Master P.

You've always had independent artists. But I'm saying those were kind of like right before the internet started to take hold of information, those were kind of people who were able to latch on to a business model that didn't necessarily rely on the major labels, even though both of those people definitely did business with the major labels. Those were people who knew. Those were unprecedented examples. exceptions to the rule. Those were people. No, those were people who knew their worth. And now you see rap has evolved to where most of the artists are now going the independent route.

We're just learning and we're evolving. But what I'm telling you is, if we have faith in what we do, you have enough historical reference to know that black people are incapable of incredible things. Had you taken those dudes and let's take them to Africa and see all these big-ass skyscrapers and show them what black people really can do with no one else around. that might change their mindset when it comes to, man, I'm just sign this deal for like $50,000 because I got to put food on table. You had to do like Snoop Dog, who was willing to sell a song to MasterP for $5,000.

And then he said, bro said, five, give me five. He said, I meant $5,000. MasterP turned around and gave a $50,000. Like showed him, hey, this is what money really could look like. But then Snoop basically signed with Master P because he needed a way out of the other. That's a situation? Master P was basically willing to bankroll it.

Yeah, and he made more money than ever once he signed with Master P. Because Master P was what? An independent, like, mogul. Mogul. Yeah. So he was able to show Snoop, this is what you would be making if you wasn't, if you had some confidence in yourself. So Master P had more faith than Snoop and confidence in him than Snoop had in himself.

Well, yeah, he was also used to getting fucked in all his deals that he had signed. But why? Because you only get fucked because you don't believe in your shit as much. Like, you could be like, believe in this, but then when it comes time, like, the deal gets on the table, you like, damn, if I say no to this, ain't no guarantee. That's something else's going to come down to education, because these

dudes didn't, they're signing deals that they didn't even understand what they meant. They're not even having lawyers, look them over. And why are you doing that? Because you broke, you see some zeros. Yeah, but it's not them having a lack of confidence in their abilities. They were like, we're the, we're the dopest people from where we're from. Everybody around

likes our music. But there's a thing, too. The way the game is, it's so easy to create music and put it out. There's too many artists for you to not have failing, failing artists. What the fuck, nigga, nigga,

everybody ain't about to be successful. No, for sure. It ain't going to work for everybody. I think it's practicing. Like, you feel me? It ain't feeling to really doing them for everybody.

So you just gone how to. It's a meritocracy. You know what I mean? Like, it's not, it's impossible for everybody to be successful. I mean, I just want to know where you draw the line

with your separatism. All mighty suspect like that the fellow rapping so kind rap from the apps could be a success. And that's what makes everything beautiful. That's what raises the bar for rap music. That's what raises the bar for everything. Because that competition, understanding, dangas, a lot of people out here, you know, that's after it.

So let me be better. Now every Negro with a damn bandana wrapped around his head thinking he a rapper. Back in the 90s, they said, when it was real competition, somebody's just like, man, look, I might be able to tell a rhyme or two. but I ain't know we're on a level of this person that person. That was so watered down. In the 90s, if they had access to the internet the way that they do now, there would have been

5 million fucking random-ass wrappers just like there is now. Because everybody has, because the internet has no vetting system. The internet is the vetting system. The internet is the vetting system. The popularization of prosumer

audio technology during the early 2000s and the internet blowing up in social media allowed there to be this influx. of independent artists. Terrible artists, most of them. Most of them.

Listen, it's the basic laws of economics. Supply and demand. If supply is high and demand is low, guess what? The price is dropped. That's it. And that's what's going to with rap music. It's so much supply.

There's not enough demand for it all. So there's no money in it anymore. But the good shit's rising to the top, I feel like in a way. Like right now, the cream is going to rise at the top. The most well-produced music, the artists that have the, biggest mass appeal. There's so many different options for whatever it is. You got

your doches. You got your Playboy Cardys. You got Boss Van Dilo and you got everything in between, bro. There's like an infinite amount of artists you could latch on to. All races are represented. All subcultures. All sub-genres. All regions. It feels like music has been so demystified that it's almost impossible for anything to stand out at this point. Well, I mean, to a agree, but there's still like, this is coming from the perspective of us now being around for so long and like the bail of deception of, you know, we've actually even tried to rap ourselves at a certain point, you feel me? Like back then, like rapping meant a lot more because people didn't have access to the fucking studios. To even get a chance to record a song, you're doing it on two inch tape reels that cost thousands of dollars. Even if you're doing some indie shit and it's like the neighborhood dope man or whatever gang, it's funny in the operation, that's still like it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's now anybody you can wrap. So I feel like that could be a bad thing, but it also creates way more voices and way more opportunities.

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did he's getting off he's beating the case 100% then i don't think he's going to be everything no i'm not He's going to be a substantial percentage of what he's been gone. The feds L, and I'll tell you, I mean, it all came down to that CNN evidence being like, because that's literally what their entire case hinged upon. The testimony that's going on for mail escorts, blah-da-da-da-da, nobody gives a fuck about that. And maybe he might get some sharp rob sex trafficking charges, you feel me? Like, he might, he might, which is really unsubstantiated, even per the testimony that they're trying to use against him. But the main evidence is out the window.

Did he is going to walk home a free man. I thought he was cooked prior to that. But the feds and the prosecution are doing such a piss poor job, if I'm being honest. It's like, damn, like there's literally two C being found and fucking ketamine lace baby oil. And you still can't convict this man. They did a great job at painting this picture of him as a monster. But as time goes by, it's slowly starting to look like, oh, maybe you're a violent abuser. Okay, sure.

But how does that constitute a RICO? How does that warrant this scale of charges? That being said, I mean, I do think that there's probably some stuff with the prostitution and the drug trafficking, et cetera, that he's not going to be able to get away from. But it's not looking like the slam dunk case that it was originally purported to be. And it just goes to show you, like, the way that they try to slander people, especially like prominent people. And the fact that this is one of the most successful black. moguls in the entertainment industry on the heels of like the Cosby

and Me Too shit is kind of like damn I felt like my childhood was attacked and at the same time we know Diddy is janky, did he's a freaky frog did he be doing some wild ass shit He probably needs to be held accountable for We can't be letting Diddy run rampant To the degree he was

But he's about to beat this motherfucking case Why? Because y'all are inept And how I think CNN might have got paid off. The increasingly fading relevance of major news outlets due to the popularization of non-mainstream media, such as no jumper, is pretty evident that they're going to be doing cash grabs, like accepting under the table bribes from Diddy to mysteriously lose some of the most vital footage of all time when they're

supposed to be like one of their main purposes is being an archivist, right? They have an archive of all these historical news events, yet they lose the footage of Diddy abusing Cassie, the original footage that is. They only have the altered content. which intern needs to get fired God that intern needs like a fucking three-pronged dildo in the ass that spins around like people like Sharp enjoy you feel me?

I mean I feel like the most damning thing that I've seen is just the male escort whose testimony basically reported to Cassie being a willing participant in so much of this and when I'm even having this conversation with random people and they're like oh he was he was doing Cassie so bad I'm like

bro she stuck around that relationship for 10 years like at a certain point it's hard for me to imagine that she was not to some extent a willing participant. Is that one of his main charges for the domestic on her, right? Correct.

I mean, that's part of it. But what are the actual charges, though? I don't think, why is him beating his wife rising to that level? That is literally the main evidence that the entire prosecution was like hinging upon was that footage for some reason. Being up his girl.

Yeah, literally. The footage of him. What else? So they said because that's lost now, it's inadmissible because it got edited by CNN. So that case is already thrown out? Yeah, that evidence is gone. So what's the other charge?

Okay, racketeering and conspiracy. Combs is accused of leading our criminal enterprises that engaged in a pattern of illegal activities, including sex trafficking, forced labor, and other offenses. Prosecutors allege that this enterprise used Combs' business empire to enrich himself and associates who are loyal and willing to conceal his crimes. If convicted, this charge carries a maximum sentence of life in prison. and then in addition to that, specifically, comes with charge with sex trafficking,

alleging they used force, fraud, and coercion to compel individuals into commercial sex acts. This indictment refers to multiple victims with Cassie, being one of the identified victims. This charge carries a mandatory prison sentence of 15 years and a maximum of life in prison and then also transportation for the purpose of prostitution. So basically, like, in our minds,

him basically treating Cassie horribly, and is one of the main things that has him on the chopping block. When you actually look at this, it's trafficking drugs, employing people to traffic drugs, employing people to help you traffic in prostitutes, etc.

All things that we don't think there's anything wrong with. We don't give a fuck. If he's carrying Molly all over the world and he's employing people to bring Molly and Tussie and all these crazy drugs, great guys. None of us view that as immoral. And in addition to the prostitution thing,

I mean, Conrad, Lush, I know that we've, all dibbled and dabble at least to some extent I mean myself personally haven't really paid for most of it but dealt with a lot of prostitutes I mean none of us think that that's abhorrent but I mean it does seem like he's probably fucked when it comes to those things

the thing is basically what Diddy is they're trying to convict Diddy of is what you do on Plug Talk just without cameras So there's no coercion and there's no There's no misleading of like everyone who does Plug Talk knows exactly what they're going to do

But we know that because why? The camera's on it. Now, let's take the camera away. Everybody who goes on plug talk could come with an accusation. It's just accusation against you of all those things. He was brought to no jumper, you know, whatever. That's the only difference here. He's a freaky motherfucker like, you're a freaky ass name.

I don't think I've risen to his level. You're freaky. Listen to what I'm saying. There's levels of freakingness. You're recording it. I don't know. You're putting all. You're, you're,

You're framing it. Too bad. You're making sure you got all your teas crossed, eyes dotted legally. But let's say plug talk was a little different. Let's say we were traveling all over the country. Some of the people who worked for me, I was saying, hey, you got to swallow this balloon full of Mali tablets and whatnot so that we can have this when we get to Ibiza or whatever.

Now we're talking. Now that's a criminal enterprise. They were trying to say that it was going like that. Like they was making people swallowing and shit. I don't know if that was their transportation mechanism. Now, say someone was doing that and you had no idea. I think about it. He was doing these freakoffs on such an extreme scale that at some point,

he can't be the only one transporting the Mali. Also, like, if I were to tell one of the girls from Plug Talk, hey, we got, like, let's say we were more into drugs, hey, I need y'all to bring these pills with us when we go to this place. Boom. They now have information on me that could easily bury me. If you have 100 people coming to a party, you can't be responsible or know who's bringing what, but which person going to get on the stand and say,

well, yeah, I brought my own crack to smoke. Everyone's trying to make themselves look like an angel to make him look more like a villain. So if someone comes with you and they got a freaking balloon full of Molly in their purse, later on they say, I'm broke as fuck, you know. Now I'm going to try to go against Adam.

They're going to say that you brought the Molly and you made them take it even though we all know these people are active drug users people have literally admitted to going to Diti parties. Why? Because they want pink cocaine. They show up to use it. And that's why people go to celebrity parties for free shit,

free drugs. You're not wrong. Free, am I wrong? And really, from my perspective, him having people bring large quantities of drugs to the various locations that they're going to, that's so much safer than like, hey, we're in Houston.

Somebody go out into the streets and find somebody who sells Molly and Coke and whatnot. Bring your own and assures a greater level of quality. From the perspective of the feds, this is a drug trafficking ring. Right. But here's the thing, though, and this is why the feds had such a slam dunk. But they had such a slam dunk case and they completely dropped the ball on. And there are things about, because, like, I'm not going to lie. There are things as far as the way Diddy did.

allegedly play off of power dynamics by so many people. I do feel like there's no coincidence that so many of his artists wind up dropping dead or in Martin. Huge controversies and legal disputes and or broke as fuck. He's also one of these quote unquote Jews that fucking winds up signing people to the worst deals in music industry history, bad boy records. Prior to that when he was working with Mary J. Blige and all that shit at Uptown

records. He was already learning the game, janky. Come on, bro. He's not signing nobody to nothing. You signing yourself to that because you write your own signature. Let me tell you this. That's moving the goalpost. Listen, when I called cap on the Diddy, bad contract shit was when the locks, one of my

favorite rap groups was on 97 or whatever. High 97. Did he just wanted to push a refrigerator off the roof onto him? They were talking shit on Diddy? Bad. He robbed us. He this and that. Diddy called the fucking radio station and was like, tell me how

I robbed you. Tell me what I did. These niggas were speechless. They couldn't even tell you what he did. Because these are dudes in their early 20s that signed deals when they were fucking 17. If you make it, had no clue. They really make it.

Really nowadays, like Lil Pump, when he signed a deal of that magnitude, he was able to get free from it. Because why? Because you're not even supposed to be that age signing contract. They probably had to get their parents. If you make an accusation, if you make an accusation, you should know what you're accusing this person of doing.

If that person, if you can't articulate what he did to you, why are you running around on radio stations talking about it? He never took advantage of them. He did what, he did what is done in capitalism.

He saw an area where he could make a lot of money with little overhead. And he exploited it. These guys were reading, they were giving ownership to artists. Did he is not asterpeed? But you're used. using the exact argument that you used against yourself earlier.

Master P was making nobody artists into millionaires and then going out getting established artists and making them even richer. Diddy didn't learn from the same people in Master P learned from. Also, Diddy wasn't selling cocaine simultaneously while selling records. So he didn't have that safety net of money. Diddy was operating based on the rules of the music business as they are done in New York City. I think I've seen Jada Kiss and the other members of the locks, like, be pretty transparent and open about the fact that they really didn't understand the music business when they

were going on this huge crusade against Bad Boy. Boom. And let's be real. They were young. We probably wouldn't revere Jadicus and Stiles Pee and these guys on the same level if they hadn't had a machine like Bad Boy promoting the fuck out of them and making them huge stars. They could have easily been also Rans like so many other people from the New York hip-hop scene at that

time who didn't really become as anywhere near as fame. It's like now the game is you get signed to a label, you allow the label to invest millions of dollars into blowing you the fuck up. And then at some point you separate from them and you use that fame that they basically embedded into you to go have an independent hustle. Correct. These people, listen, these people claim, their claim to fame is I'm a hustler. I'm a gangster.

I moved all this way. What's the Jada kiss line? we weighed The whale. So you're a hustler, you're a drug kingpin, but you ain't reading contracts, dummy? You're nothing you claim to be.

Wait a minute. They were like younger at that time. No, though. You're talking about, like. They was rapping about this shit when they was young. They were like biggie, like, Jada and they were like protégés.

You know who's, I'm just going to totally disregard what you just said. Listen. Why? If you, because it's not making sense. How? What does it make sense about that? You know who's a real hustler?

What's the thing? to do's name from the clips push a tea push a tea right that motherfucker's a boss and you ain't never heard but he's like in his 50s bro and he's not hold on

signed one of the most notoriously worst deals in hip hop history and I'm sorry to the fans but the crackers wasn't playing fair at John but you will never remember that you will never hear him complaining about a contract

but he literally there was a whole movement by the clips to try to get free from job. They wanted to get free from them, but they never were like, these dudes extorted us, these dudes signed us with a bad deal. They were just like,

we signed the fucked up deal and now we want to get out of it. But this is also, that's like Dave Chappelle. But claiming that you're victimized by the label is very much a PR tactic that is pretty compelling to the fans. But they never played the victim.

They just said, we don't want to be, it's the same thing with Dave Chappelle. Sheppel, I signed a fucked up deal. But I'm going to use the court of public opinion. to pressure Comedy Central to let me go. Puffy was kind of being a dick, though, Brandon.

You know that. Puffy was being a dick, bro. Listen, he was a weirdo. He was a very weird guy. How could you, like, defend his actions to this? But also, the locks were, like, objectively pretty popular by today's standards. Like, their albums did fairly well. But at that time, it was considered a failure because you're being compared to Jay Z and Biggie.

And you're not making money. But really, then they went for being Biggie's understudies to DMX's understudies being a part of Ruff riders. Even though to me, I really didn't work out for. but I mean they did it. Well, that was the next deal they had. You can't be the joke. They left bad boy and went to roughfire, but here's the thing.

I'm like literally a bigger Jada fan than I am RIPA DMX fan. So like, you sound crazy. No, I'm not ready. I'll take Jada over. Yeah,

I'm taking DMX over. I like lyrics, bro. I like bars or like punches. X got lyrics. I'm not saying he don't, but Jada is like a master. Man, listen,

Jada got bars for sure. He's a great rapper. But X, listen, man. JZ. I tells a story on YouTube where he was like bro, DMX made me

raise my game He had a battle for an hour and a half straight You will never go to a Jada kiss concert And in one moment All the women are cheering The next woman all the men are cheering And then by the time to show It was a bigger star

X was a bigger star Just had a connection with people And that's what matters most That's why the locks didn't make no money and X made a ton of money and blew it because he's a drug addict well he's dead recipe's listen

that man had a spiritual connection with people same thing like Tupac Tupac isn't even as a simple-minded people that don't understand lyricism to the highest degree he had a great passion no not Jada got more bars

so he harder bro is that simple every same time Jada spit his fire he don't matter he can rhyme on a dirty south beat he can rhyme shit still relevant to the to the young ins he's like he he masters his craft goes on stage masters a ceremony

every time jada way harder bro anybody that really understands the intangibles and the craft of lyricism knows that jada's above dmx you do you're not even a question you do realize that at one point the locks was under dmx right do realize so you can say all that he's better he's this

everything is about connecting with people in a way that they relate to even this show there's something about this show that connects with certain people you could say this ain't the best podcast ever Joe Rogan's better but motherfuckers ain't watching Joe. They're watching no jumper because we, well not we, but people here connect with them in a certain way.

In the crowd, in the audience, you got some people who I connect with just because off of me being me. And X did more of that than the locks. He had more people connected to. So the court of public opinion rules that X is the better. He was a bigger star. his peak, but I just prefer a Jada kiss. No, that's your personal Yes, my personal opinion.

And I would say it makes sense. Because fuck with DMX, for sure. It's like, you, like, no, I said personal. I'm not blaming for, but you said personal, white. So I'm saying most white people. You're individually a white guy. Sure. But I'll tell you, of course, as a Jewish man,

that knows more about the shit than motherfuckers though. So no matter. As a Jewish man, as a Jewish man, we can see why you would love somebody who's dumbing up to sign a horrible deal. DMS was a crack-in-hard. Jaydick was a smooth criminal. He was like,

yeah, exactly. He was a dope dealer. DMX was a user. That's right. He saw a dope-the-M-X. I'm saying like, you should probably be taking up for Jada-Kis. So he identified with the users.

You are identifying with users. A user is someone who's trapped in a self, a perpetual cycle. I can't think of anybody that describes that better than DMX. Listen, but what I'm telling you is, what Brandon does. I love him, but he literally goes against the same points to me. That's the hell of a switchup right there. It's the craziest

thing. I'm trying to figure how you're going to walk out. He's doing it all day. He, listen, he interrupts me before I can make my point. So that's why. Listen, do you know how many people even who aren't even on drugs feel like they're stuck in a hamster wheel, a perpetual cycle, whether it's their job,

their fucking relationship, drug use, their custody battle, whatever. That's the element that DMX tapped into inside of everybody. Do you feel like no matter how hard you work life just keep kicking you

in the nuts? I've experienced that and the way I'm dealing with it is through God. And God is helping me. He's working. I'm a work in progress. He's working with every day. If you talk to 95% of the world, they would agree. They would say, I know exactly what that

feels like. That's why you don't understand black culture. I'm just kidding. I love DMX. I love DMX. Like, and he definitely, like, at his peak, like, DMX performing at, um, at, what was it?

What's stock 99? Winnie out of the right overall? That's like the, the greatest hip-hop performance, arguably in history. One of the craziest crowds. He had 100,000 people. No one's ever rocked a crowd that big, very few people in hip-hop history.

Respect to him. Kendrick. Kendrick could never do that. Well, he just did that live on. the Super Bowl like to the pro the Super Bowl people people came there to watch football he they just happened No but I'm saying the millions of people that still watch that's still like an

amazing accolated most people they weren't there to see DMX that was to be honest it was like an all white crowd but all that aside I'm just saying personally I feel Jada Kinsmore he resonates with me as a lyricist What do you feel about him? I like his bars his syllable structure he really talked that dope boy talk I've been in the street selling and buying dope you feel me I relate to his like his whole shit. I mean with DMX it's like yes he was a dope robber made dope music

but it had a little bit of the thrill of watching a random guy spazz out off drugs on the corner like the fun you know when you're stopping the red light downtown and you just see a motherfucker walling out yeah it's like and that's fun it's like a little part of it's a student of OD but DMX was hard as far as I'm going to say

ODM slim. Listen listen people relate to that shit people would tell you stories about DMX when he coming up like motherfuckers was really scared of this dude. Imagine being scared of a crackhead in New York. I mean,

they're pretty terrifying, that means that dude is fucking bringing something to that situation that you ain't ready to deal with, right? And a lot of drug users were like, my dad was a drug user. My dad is one of the most reptable dudes in Long Beach. Like, people talk about him. Oh, this guy, he, I remember he knocked like four dudes out.

He, you know, he's like a legend. That's why I seen whack arguing on the podcast. about how Monster Cody can't possibly be like a real true legend because he was a cracket. It's like, everybody from the era was a fucking cracket. We're talking about. Well, Black was just right. That was normal. Yeah.

I was a dog. Like, yeah, he used drugs and you go to Lombie. Like, you heard of this dude? They're going to be like, hell yeah, that dude was a heavy hitter back in the day. So it's like the drug stuff was a part of it. Everybody did some type of drugs. But that doesn't take away from who you were as a person and the respect that people, have for you.

No, I feel it. Yo, as long as we got Conrad here, though, I just have to ask, where are you at? How much have you spoken to Brick in recent memory? Do you believe that he has been experimenting with the transgender's? Free break. I'm just going to let that one hang. You know, my brother, like that book-a-boot.

No. No, I don't think so, bro. I mean, I know so. I know he ain't going to do this shit. I don't believe it either. Especially we have to take Luce's word for it. How do you feel about Luce's word? loose right now.

I don't, that niggas a clown, bro, I'm fucking around. I want to see that George Jefferson

because that nigga that nigga brick. Hey, bro. Hey, brick. Man, just stay on top, man. Straight up.

You've been talking to him a decent amount? You worry that you're not going to see him on the streets for a while? To stay on time. A good shelly lays on his belly. No,

I talked to him right a few days ago. Yeah. Tap me in. Just some quick shit. Like, you know, but I love you and shit. It is.

It is tough to be someone who was making a ton of gay jokes on the podcast and then you get locked up and we keep making those jokes. But that shit is just not funny in there like the way it is here. But like I'll just, I've gaged through my combos with Brick. Like I don't tend to initiate it, but he will. You feel me like he'll make a booker jokes?

Why don't you just do a gay snap? I don't tend to initiate it. I guess it was appropriate. I guess we're talking about booke and. His inner day John came out. Did you see the snap? I saw it. We are.

Zestia on that side of the table. This is the heteroside. The engineer got up and walked out. My fucking shit. Hey, hey, it's like you said earlier about osmosis. Lus rainbow. It came through me. Most rainbow.

Rainbow Lush. That's your stripper name. Shit out of brick ass. Yeah, no, of course. Of course. But, yeah, I mean, the most recent development that I spoke about on the whack pot is that Brick told me on the phone. that Luce asked him to snitch on big you.

I believe it. This came out of Briggs mouth. I wish I had a recording of it so I could prove it, but that is what he told me. And, you know... I could bleed some corny-ass buster shit like that. Given how many lies Luce has been caught up in over the course of the past couple months,

and really you could go back to like his whole existence. I mean, even like saying that he produced Bodak yellow for Cardi B, etc. That's an outstanding. It's just like, it slowly just feels like acting like loose is not a compulsive liar is harder and harder to justify. I feel like I've given

them as much reasonable doubt as I possibly can, but at this point it just feels like pretty open and shut. Let me ask you a question. If you were in Bricks situation, let's say loosely in that situation, you don't know that, maybe you do know the details. I think you know everything. Would you stitch on Big You? No, not if I had sworn myself to the gangster code. You would take like 80 years in prison.

Neighborhood code. It's hard for me to put myself in that because I ain't done it. This thing will be single out there. Like a canary. Look, I'm not going to become a gang member today. It seems like a bad deal. If they told you 75 years,

unless you tell us some incriminating information on this dude, would you snitch? Honestly. Doesn't sound like too bad of a deal. Would you do it? I don't know. I have to think about it. I'm telling you 99% of gangmen.

But also, yes. Human beings would tell, bro. Yeah, absolutely. At a certain point, reality kicks in. Like, I don't know this nigga like that. That nick was a pair of my bill. does know big you like that. They spent a lot of time together.

That doesn't mean you know somebody. I was really rooting for him. I was pushing for him. I was supporting him. But him getting caught up or him getting dirt caught up the way that he did is. Lush was snitch on you. By the way, I just want to put that out there.

That's why everybody I'm around. I'm not trying to give them anything that they could snitch on me for. Don't tell me. Don't tell me. Don't tell me anything. It was all out of. Never, never, never. I tell people, don't tell me what you do.

So when I say, I don't know, I'll be telling you. I personally don't. I personally don't trust, like, the police, but whatever. Like, you know what it is. Like, they're going to be what they be. But ultimately, I was rooting for Luce, it's a shame that him just having a conversation with Dirk and telling him like, yo, you're going to get academics on the phone. This is going to be good. But he doesn't even know that Sheree Mills on the phone, too.

And then all of a sudden, like, Dirk's being interviewed by Sheree Mills by proxy. That's like Luce getting Dirk fucked over in that situation is kind of. mind-blowing that this guy who was always kind of like a sea level player in the no jumper drama is now taking one of the biggest rappers and fucking up him getting his freedom which i don't know if it's as simple as that but it seems like it's mostly as simple as that well i mean he's literally his bail was and it wasn't just him because they said 12 different conversations but the one that they made notice a loose cannon fuck the dirt shit okay so the reason why they rejected dirt getting bail is because one of the main reasons that they named was,

oh, he's using the three-way call system inappropriately. And the only recorded example of that is the fact that Luce basically was on stream with academics talking to him on the phone with his girl on the phone. And he got Dirk to come over and talk on the phone, which I think he had kind of promoted in advance. He did. There's a flyer for it. And Dirk clearly didn't understand that he was on stream because Cherise,

Luce's girl, starts asking, interview style questions like, oh, Dirk, do you feel like it has made you closer to your family since you've gotten locked up? And you can kind of tell in Dirk's voice that he's like, what? He doesn't understand that this is on stream and it's being recorded

and he probably wouldn't have consented to it if he had known, but we all know Luce. Luce knows that being adjacent to rich, successful people is very powerful. So he basically hoodwinked, Dirk, one of the most famous rappers in America to get into the situation,

which is fucking mind-blowing, because you gotta think like Dirk's guard is probably up for getting into shady situations with dudes. But hey, L.A. up one.

Yeah, but we can't fully blame. In his bail hearing, they said that there's 12 incidents, I believe, of him doing that. Oh, so that was just one.

That's the one that they made note of that they said. Pretty notable. Luce is playing the win. That's what y'all don't understand. When the ship is sinking, the rat tank, they all run into whatever.

corner to get but he's still got to do four years in riverside county supposedly for a whole other charge but what i'm saying is regardless of loose loose regardless of what happened in this fed case if he does let's say and even if loose is fully cooperating based on the nature of his charges according to what i've looked up on chat jpc and all that he said he'll probably still have to do a few years in the feds even if they might give him time sir but they might but regardless on top of that he has a whole other case from riverside county you got to do it so Listen, Luce, man. Just keep doing what you doing, bro, because he clearly gets the picture.

The rest of these dudes, I think, are operating based on what the no-jumper audience is going to think or something. Loose for sure. It's every man. No, Luce is operating in favor of the audience. No, but he is, no. No, is Siree-Dictating? How much is Cherie's Dictady? Luce is operating in favor of himself.

He's literally right now actively trying to get people to incriminate themselves so he can go back and take that to the feds and be like, look, I got some juice for it. But Luce has been incriminating himself for as long as long as. we can remember. I mean, he's the one who released the footage of him beating the dog shit of somebody in the alley here, a crime that he easily could have got away with with absolutely no evidence. He wanted that shit to be out there so everybody would be scared. We know for sure that was loose that was released. Well, it was released by IBM Hoodloom, which is basically a loose cannon fan account. Okay. Well, we know this guy might not be the sharpest tool in the shit, right? We know like anybody would get up here and talk like that.

Like, I got family members like that. They're like, you know, a little delayed. No offense to him. but he's just kind of well as people who's hopelessly honest. You ask him a question. He can't help answer it. But this guy is dishonest. No, but what I'm saying is, Luce,

y'all, I think Luce going to come out on top of this whole situation because there's always people like that who would come out on top for some reason. Wax said that he's the most evil person he's ever met in his entire life, which is got to say a lot. That's beautiful.

Wax's probably top 10 for a lot of people in the evilness category. Him saying that about Luce really says a lot. So it sounds like he's in the perfect circle. Yeah. Because. But he's not in the same. circle anymore. But I rather him be a real outwardly evil, overtly evil

person, then be around a bunch of people who acting like they're something and they're really something else behind closed doors. For all we know, for all we know, they could all be telling on each other. Sorry. Sorry, I thought I was calling him. I did. I was trying to call Gin Lee, but it went straight to the

guy. Oh, I'd love to hear. I'd love to hear. Maybe we get a call in on the office, huh? In the girl here? Uh, no, but we just want to talk about him getting stabbed by a woman in a fight because I... He got stabbed? Yeah, but a lot of people didn't realize that in that video with a fight with him in the FDA in the mall, that the woman is stabbing him repeatedly.

And he showed that pink hoodie had holes all over in his shit from being stabbed. As she should. Hey, pretty good time to be morbidly obese. Hey. When a bitch starts plunging a knife at your midsection. He was fighting a dude and a woman starts stabbing. Yeah. Because that dude girl came and did her shit.

She posed to do that. Yeah, but I'm saying, that's like a good time to be fat because that blubber can really take a stabbing. It's like, yeah. If you have a six-pack? Oh, Lord. I don't know. Yeah, if you watch the X-Men, the blob, he absorbed quite a few blows. So it makes sense.

Crazy. I didn't know that. Yeah. Would you allow Jin Lee to say the N-word around you? Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, that's the white homie. Woodpile.

I, I, folks with Gin Lee. That's the white homie. He's shit. He's from Texas. He's a nigga. He's from the hood. So, like. Texas as a whole, counsels of hood?

So it's the thing about that. Like, when you are, when you're a white game, man, you're a white crib. You consider this black. In prison, you're considered black. Nigel. So then you're on the streets, fuck it, you're saying that word.

Yeah, he's black. That's a homie. He with us. That's how we see him. We know his spirit. We don't know that shit. We don't know of looking at race. So Mr.

homie, this is our real friends since elementary. The only reason he's from the hood because he's fucking one of us. Nick grew up with us. A white boy. You know what I mean? Not as to him.

He's from Texas. But, you know what I mean? But you see the extent to which your life becomes a struggle once you become a white boy who proudly says the N-word out in public because you got all kinds of people who want to fuck you up. It's probably not like this. All the other fucking essays in the world say, nigga, now. Agent's too.

So what's the fuck is the difference going to be? White people saying it seems uniquely offensive to a variety of people. This is black. Look, this is the thing of how I think see people saying, nigga. That's not niggas. Because the thing about nigger with the word, the word, with us is that we have converted it to a thing. See, we, human beings create language.

We create language whatsoever, nigger. We make this shit up, you know what I mean? All this shit, we're speaking and we're talking. It's created by us. So you feel, me? The definitions and shit like that, the word, nigga, we gave it a power. We gave it an empowerment.

We made it a thing. That shit like being a king. You know what I mean? Like, rather than nigga, know it or not. Like, I was just looking at, Now, my young nigga going to prom, he had his suit on this shit on Instagram, and he was in the mirror like, I'm a nigga, but I know what he's talking about. You know what I mean?

And I know what he owns. I know what energy he feels. You know what I'm saying? So when I see other races, like, oh, nigger, nigger, I know what you doing. I understand what's going on. Shit, nigger, I would want to do it too. I see how y'all doing it. It's niggas that really feel like they niggas doing that.

like, nigga really programming. So it's like, oh, yeah, it's related. I like it, nigga. And I don't want to do it, too. I feel about Lush here, saying. I feel Cid Lush. I feel C is too old. Say, Nick.

No, no, no, no, let him say. Say, Nick. Say, me too old. Say, me too old. Say, me too old. Say, me too old. Oh, my nigga. Just say it.

He not know you. No. Say, what's up, my nigga? No, if I felt like it, I would. Just say it. You's a bitch. If I feel like saying it. Man, fuck.

You talk to all that. I am a bitch. But the thing is, look, this whole thing is, I just want to hear this dude say one time. I'm like, hey, I'm pretty. He thinks like, go, go, come. It's going to be like a babbling bro. It'll be the most beautiful, natural sound in the world. I said it in front of the world.

He heard me say it. Oh, I don't just say it. He just said it right now. I said it nothing, bro. Yeah. He just said it. You just said it. You just muttered it?

I didn't even catch it. I know. I know that art culture is flying, man. I ain't tripping. Listen, man. nigger is now, what my brother's trying to say is, nigger is now a term of endearment and a term of empowerment. That is why other groups are using nigger amongst themselves

when there's no black person anywhere within 500 miles. Exactly. Look, you remember the song? This is when the song really became acceptable. My nigger, my nigger, that song? No, I think Trinidad James got out of that beat. You had all people everywhere singing that song when they were alone in their car, not around anybody.

You see that shit when they was around only day, little white friends. He made it sound cool. Listen, once you offer something up to society and say, we want you to participate in this, you no longer could gatekeep it. It's like hip-hop music. Black people will tell you some, you can't speak on hip-hop. That's our culture. No, no. Once you made that available for purchase, that became everybody.

That's like when the artists, some artists used to try to sue people for, like, smashing their records and stuff like that. I didn't know. Once that person bought that, that record, that became their property. And so now it's up for everybody to use as they see fit because we gave it up in the name of making money and the name of capital. For sure. I want to, I got to read these donations because we are coming up on the three hour mark, which it really just feels like we just are getting started. But shout out to Jay Hollins and Greg Amos for becoming members. Alcoholic Gamer said Jack Daniels and Lemonade enjoyed drinks on me. Adam, do you believe Amaranth? crying wolf again. I like to see y'all discuss what happened on Sunday on kick.

I absolutely am not falling for this Amaran's shit. I am. My detection abilities when it comes to Oly fans' promo are pretty high. I don't buy this shit. That to me, if you want to see a couple argue on kick, go visit Yuri and Riley. Do not be tuned into Amaran's. She has way too much to gain from this. Didn't they just have another one?

There's like some girl in the car. she got caught cheating on her husband. I'm tuned out. That's straight. Everyone's going to run there now because you said, don't go there. Planet Wills said, why haven't you interviewed O.G. Percy? He's getting old now, but he still deserves a Los Angeles pod tour.

Listen, I would be happy to have O.G. Percy on here. The problem is, is that a lot of these out of town podcasters and commentators basically need money in order to get out here. Not saying they're broke or anything. But in my previous conversations with various people like, you know, OG Percy or white folks, etc. It's like a hotel room and a flight is like for a lot of these people, basically the best I can do and a lot of them feel like they need to be

profiting from this sort of thing. It's just not happening. All right, Blas. Ever since Aaron the Plymer, unfortunately I don't see that. I'm not going to engage with that. A piece of shit. Okay, Misarello just renewed his membership. He said, what up, bros? I fuck with the pride heavy. Thank you so much,

bro. I appreciate it. King Jopi Jopjeoffer said Bucci wasn't in the room for 30 seconds before the words black people came out of his mouth. Yes, that is definitely a strong tick. We were discussing that earlier. Travis Tiller had said $5 said, Brandon oversus today is lame and Luzge. Get on that Vegas flight.

And Adam, you need a BMX. I'm already in Vegas. It could happen to Sharper right now. Anytime sharp better watch. Look over his shoulder wherever he go. You're projecting. You're after you have something. Yes, Serski said, why is Teddy Bear Brandon back again?

He's good content. We like having conversations with him. We're going to make some more tomorrow. Jay Dem said Brandon for sure would have snitch on Harry at Tubman during slavery. 100%. What the fuck? That felt a little edgy for me

to even read. God Body Black React said, I'm a journalist from the hood. I get what Brandon's saying, but he's messing up the fact that the systematic injustice that makes it unfair, makes it an unfair playground for...

I'm pretty sure I said the exact same fucking same. He's wrong and you're wrong. Okay, we will... We could discuss that more out length. Thank you, God, Body. Hank said, no, B, is absolutely right.

Our people are entitled victims with no accountability, thinking that everyone owes us history has winners and losers no one owes us shit we have a lot of woke red pill people in the chat now which is kind of a change over past years I'm ready for that smoke

you've hit rock bottom when the only person who's apologizing for you is lush yeah I'm ready for that you know you're almost indefensible when this guy's your representation I'm ready for that and I got to make personal attacks and make personal attack I got I got to I got to make personal I mean sharp for 30 minutes and I's getting hurt

Don't take it personally. Don't you dare. I just saying I got to. We can take it to the hills of bad eyes. I got to do that because I'm more intelligent. First, leave you in the dirt, just became a member. Shout out to him. YNG Lucci sent $20 and said breaking. 17 members of L. Chapo's family have surrendered to the FBI and turned themselves to the U.S.

a few weeks after El Mayo's arrest in El Paso, Paso, Texas. This looks to be the first sign of a coup for Chapo and the U.S. government. Thoughts. I am not educated about this topic. I don't know if I really have any thoughts. I haven't read about it, but we'll definitely look into that, unfortunately. Everyone's getting killed because the president is of Mexico. Shine bomb is in cahoots with the cartels.

So now she's allowing them to go exterminate all the opposition. So they're turning themselves over to the U.S. for protection, basically. Like, if I stay in Mexico, I'm dead. For sure. We'll discuss that on a future episode, I swear. Travis Hiller had sent $5. He said, if you got 50 bans but you want to Sharpe's money for a flight out there talking,

just be about it. He's calling you out of Lush. I never asked for fucking money from Sharp. What I look like, you feel on me? What I look like? I would never ask for a cent from somebody who can't even afford to live in the municipality that I thrive in.

Sharp couldn't make it. I've seen so many people come and go in L.A. that just weren't built for the speed of life for this level that it takes to be at. So Sharp couldn't do. Why would I ask him for a motherfuckerucking cent when he ain't got two to rub together? to his bitch-ass name. It's crazy. I saw a clip with him, like, bragging about how many outfits he buys.

I'd be buying outfits, church. Yeah, he's like, he's like, I buy an outfit a week, and then I take care of it. I sexually harassed 12 with him. He's like, he's like, if you come to my crib, I might just give you some Valabassus pants. Like, like, bro, you can't brag about having mad jeans when you just got sent packing back to Vegas. I call St. Brits his head to his dad, homey church. He could have survived out here. You know, every bitch that came around was like sharp is gross.

Sharp creeps me out. He wanted to suck my toes. He wanted to drink my piss. I'm not being hyperbolic. This is literally a guy that repulsed every single female. He's come across in a 10-mile radius. When I think of pimps, I think of guys that girls like to be around. Yeah, Sharp definitely gives no hose.

Let's just make that perfectly clear. BMX-1803 said Lushwoods and South Siders don't fuck with pimps. No level. They all do weird. I mean, like, technically what he's saying is correct. It's considered kind of weird by a lot of the things. people are okay uh compa donated five dollars said let's go to vegas start the bender with pee man but show i think lusch will take you up on that uh john said why the fuck is luch calling

anyone a white boy he has jewish dad and two rich parents lush you were never from a gang you tagged walls oh well guess what i'll tag your walls i tag your old bitch walls when i hit from the back don't worry about me you feel me i can hold my bitch ass with two hands i know someone that can. You feel me? The critical black male said, as Brandon, why white males make up to 70% of, make up over 70% of child P-word crimes, despite only being 30% of the population, much worse than anything a black person has done. The floor is yours, Brandon. Every, every, every black family's got the creepy petal uncle that no one ever talks about. Hey, listen, that nobody ever talks. We ain't doing that. We don't doing that. We don't do that. We don't. You just ask me to say something. Let me get it out. I'm doing my wife impersonation.

It's not reported, right? But in most black families, there is a perverted uncle who be touching on the kids. And the women of the family usually protect that person. So if you try to go against that person, call the cops. They'll come down on you. Damn, they're 90%. I can't say everyone. But 90% of black families has this person.

So, yeah, we do have it. We do do it. But white people, they, bitch on their, we'll tell on their C.P. Child pornography. What happened to you, Doc? What happened when you were young, brother? You think if the dude's touching the kids?

He didn't graduate with technology to CP? Is that true, the white people make up 70% significantly more disproportionate amount of white, but to be fair, there is considerably more white people in the population. But look, he said despite being only 30% of the population, which I guess, yeah, that makes sense because like 50% of the population is male and maybe like roughly a little more than half of that is white. Stupid. I don't know.

This question is dumb. It feels misleading. Yeah, I don't think that's 1,000% accurate, but white people are janky. Okay, bully breaker said banging continues because as time goes on, the next generation's friends and family get pop just like back in the 80s. White people aren't victimized like us. They used to that to it. That's why we don't just off white people. He's going to shoot a random white person like very.

I appreciate you guys. Killing me. Yeah. Thank you. Brandon's like literally wants to just shoot a random white person. I can't afford life sent $20 said. Brandon,

the Reddit hate is insane. You are well informed. It is unfortunate that you and suspect parted ways on a negative note. Both of you represent the black community well and discussions about race. I agree with that. I think you guys need to come together

and form like a tag team. Okay. Okay. Sir Slick, the coolest that. Brandon's full of shit. Poor people have always been the highest perpetrator as a violence due to poverty way before there were bloods and cribs.

That's a lie. That's a lie. All wars were financed by the wealthy. All wars were financed by the wealthy. You're not talking about the war. That's a perpetuation. What about urban war? You can see the movie Gangs in New York?

We went to school. What was going on with the Irish immigrant immigrant class? Of course, low-income people are the ones committing violent acts. That's like the most obvious thing that we don't have to really even talk about, right? Rich people have perpetuated the most violence in history. Every revolution was sponsored by the rich.

Every war was sponsored by the rich. colonization was sponsored by the rich this just this person is an idiot right I mean that's they can direct it what we're serfs in Europe poor people who lived on rich people's land and basically got treated like shit indentures her centuries

indentures I'm almost done these bully breaker said breaking Tory lanes was confirmed to be stabbed by an essay who's doing life for popping his 13 year old girlfriend when he was 20 back in 2002 I don't actually I haven't seen anything really confirmed about who stabbed Tory lanes but

yeah obviously uh prayers prayers up to him i guess and if that's that's true whoever did that is no bueno and then uh keyway j said what's cracking no jambra talk it talk some rap shit shout out rad free brig free the hood with le 60 instead of zeros which is nice touch keyway j um sir slick the cool also said if you fact check brand is bullshit you realize he isn't really saying anything it sounds good to people who don't know better um adam will you let t rel back slash we need germ on plug talk The second part is off the table.

That's the love of Luscious life. That being said, would you let Cero back? You know, I feel like, I've seen he dropped a clip today where he's basically like fantasizing about what it would be like. Like, he seems actually kind of legitimately like angry that he left. Can I point out? Ciro, come on, brother. Can I point out a note of hypocrisy in this whole thing?

Sure. There was a 199 super chat that said, Brandon is great. You pass that bitch up like you didn't even see it. Normally. 99 chat that No, the wrong we only read chats that are $5 or more, but I saw that one

And I just wanted to kind of... So when it was positivity directed at me, you didn't want to read it. But when it's negativity... But when it's negativity directed at T... It gives you a chance to take a shot at T.Row. You read it out of work. I wanted to use it as an opportunity

to virtue signal and tell the world that I'm not going to bang Lush's girlfriend. Thanks, bro. Partially because I'm sure she doesn't want to, partially because I just wouldn't do that. So I went to do that. I wouldn't do that. Yeah, she'd probably be a little weird about that.

But she wanted, Germ wanted me to say that, uh, she has lost 20 pounds since, uh, her no jump and mic drop. So, and she looks amazing.

You can see her on my stream looking great. Um, so she would know, she's, I'll be the judge of that. She's, she was, she was sober since January 1st.

You can't be like, you can't be risen up your own girl. Like, you gotta let someone, like when I brought my wife, I didn't say shit about her looks. I let everyone be the judge. I said she was attractive.

She was a little good. But, I mean, her being sober, how difficult is it for her to deal with the current buzzball lush era that we're in? She hates it. Yeah, I figured that. Yeah. She's going to be in. She's like me and her team up to get you to stop getting so fucked up.

Yeah. He pulls out another buzz ball at that exact moment. But they love to, though. You feel, I don't want to bother you. You feel like, I know. By nighttime off the motherfuckers, you'd be stumbed. You should be worried about just consuming that much food coloring. The matter of fact that Adam just said, team up with your girlfriend.

You should have flipped the motherfucker table over. You just let that go right back. I think me and her both want you to not be. But you do seem all right right now. Yeah. Like, I mean, I'm not going to lie. This is me. Like, this is the most me.

A couple buzz balls in is the real year. Not even just a couple buzz balls in, but this art. How many, you know, for one? That's the first one. No, that's number two for sure. But I need, I, I would, more. I didn't even need to ask for the apples in the chat. They already came.

It's just apples in the chat, cocaine box in the chat for the hardest memory. You know, it's just so funny to be like a hardcore alcoholic and to be doing it with buzz balls. But you know what they say? You have a flasker. They call me meth drip Lamar, the mayor of MacArthur Park, the domestic whipcrasser. You feel me? The white brick baby. You feel me?

White Draco. Are you feeling me? He has a song called. I have an amazing song called White Brick baby. I heard it. That should go crazy or what? I'm still stuck. I said, Hoppermore,

you got to keep a thumper. I know a dead bitch named Abigail, and I promise I'm a, I'll probably, I'll feel me it? I crack an egg on that dead bitch.

I'm Brian Pumper. You feel on me? Like, yeah, I'll book a book, yeah, when I said, I book a book, yeah,

I went crazy. Bia, oh, no. Hey, can you, can you give this guy Pepper, he got some spittle on the corner of his mouth?

I'll be having that just driving me fucking crazy. That's a jaccapt thing. Don't disrespect his culture. No, he's just be like, Hey, he's foaming out the mouth, right? All you got to do is be like, hey, bro.

This is my fucking got a rabies. No, I ain't, no, no, I'm just like... No, I'm a legend, bro. You feel me? Like, I'm a legend. And it's not a legend. You got to be a legend. Yeah, I'm the white brick.

I'm almost done these. Wolf sent $10 and said, y'all need to keep Brandon officially. It's nice to have someone intellectual on here and actually thinking about ish. Nice change from dudes all fucked up on perps. Perks mumbling all show. Free brick, baby. I feel like that was a direct attack. Uh, X, X, X, said, A-O, tubby, why give Almighty hell for saying hard R, but Lush gets a fucking pass to say the N-word?

Seems like picking and choosing. Your rebuttal, chunky? I can't give, uh, Almighty a pass because he allegedly, he's black, so he doesn't need a pass from me. He is black. But the thing with him, look, I didn't care of Almighty said hard ER. They're black people saying hard E. I'm from the culture I be around. I know I shouldn't say that.

That's just stupid, but it comes out my mouth sometimes, player. You want me to tell you something? You feel like... When black people get angry enough for other black people, they say the Hardy are, bro. Oh, and it hits hard. They say, man, I'm trying to.

That shit hit hard. They're said just to like try to offend that person into like doing something. Whenever you hear that and a fire, you're like, oh, it's really going down. I don't really hear that. I heard it a few times in my life and it hits. Maybe you ain't as tapped in the black cultures you think.

That's what you realize that the perpetrator, the person saying it has a real issue with the behavior of the other person. We should fucking buy a tent from Walmart and make it. this motherfucker sleep on the corner of Crenshaw and Slosson for 24 hours. I would love to see that.

If people saw me on Crenshaw and they'd be like, yo, let's what the fuck you do all year, bro. We want to see how tapped it. I think that would make great, no jumper content. But if that happens and he loses his life, I feel like we will be held on. That's just a stupid ass thing. Yeah, I wouldn't lose my life at all.

Let's do 60th thing to do. Yo, but I love the idea of us just posting up in a 10 and IRL streaming in the 10 and like maybe it just happens some security posting up outside. Or you all like, like I walk through the trenches every day. There's nothing. I walk it through gang infested trenches.

Think of the trenches of the Burbank? No, no, brother. I live in the Westlake District. You feel me like? Harvard Wesley? No, brother, you don't know the Westlake district? It's the most gang infested part of Los Angeles. I heard that someone's something that Harvard Westlake has real issues with like one specific

guy walking and standing outside and just basically beating his meat while watching like the athletes out of front. girls playing volleyball. And I noticed when I drove by the other day that they've like really grown in the bushes in front. So that would be like harder to do. So that's crazy. That guy got forwarded.

I definitely think about growing out your bushes just to stop one weirdo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm getting to less right now. I live in the rampart. It may have that much. We don't know.

I live in the rampart dish. I've broken the rule. I've achieved her. I broke a record. I'm really pissing this dude off. You could tell like his temperatures. Yeah, because you always glazing the fuck out of a suspect and talk of shit about when I'm not here.

No, if he did that, I wouldn't even do anything because I'd be so impressed that he actually like did some But the thing is... What is you talking about, bro? What? What did I do? This guy doesn't even know where he's at right there.

No, I do, but like, what are you referring to? No, no, I'm just saying It's funny to see you kind of get a little bit irritated. We got a new option. Because you're such a nice... New I'm interested. Yes, you are. I'm like, I'm not.

I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not even irritated. I'm like, yeah no i ain't even tripping on bradilly stone yeah yeah no brideski you good you feel in a real way um okay christop shout to a plumber my hero christoph adam said i hope you have someone

reading the chat adam we don't want to hear this radical slash political bs from brandon his facts aren't even true oh that's a generalization they can literally do a super chat debunking what i'm saying thugger thugger five said the hate on brandon shows where y'all mind is at you don't have to be smart to want to do better y'all are comfortable where you're at why saving them. And then XX said, AOLUSH, we know you, NGA in front of blacks, but you say BNR in front of your Hispanic homies as well. If not, why not? Why only disrespect black? What is that? Oh, BNR. That's like, that's a, because that's a disrespectful derogatory term. Mexicans don't say to each other, oh, what's up, my, you feel me? Like, you know, that's like a word that's used to

oppress that people. I do feel like that might have some potential, you know? Like, Hispanic people realistically calling each other that makes a lot more sense than calling each other the N-word. I mean, right? At least it's theirs. This thing is stupid. I mean, hey, if that's what they are and that's what they are, then. I can't tell them how you're making sense of it, though. No, I'm not mad at that tape.

Well, if you is going to say, you don't want to do that. I've heard, like, say that there's a word that they use, you feel me, like the actual word, that's like that, you feel me? and is used, but to me, like, I don't know, I would never correct to, if I heard, like, a Mexican person say that, I'd be like, you weird, you a weird Mexican person for, like, saying the BNR word,

you feel me, you sound weird. Bean with an ER at the end. Beaner? Yeah. Oh, man, I didn't even know Mexican people got offended. I don't want to say it because... I hear Mexican people said calling each other out all the time. I'm not saying it because I don't want a fuke in the post about me.

No, but like, yeah, if like somebody walked up and said that, You have to turn your own shit up. Sam Beiner is called a black person monkey. Like, yeah. It's like a Mexican called a black person. Oh, yeah, by the way, I'm supposed to let you all know. I got a song coming with a little Yadi and the homie. You feel me?

And I got a song with Lil B and the homie coming too. Yeah. Who's the homie? We're going to have to review that. I'm going to let y'all know. We don't let y'all know. Spare pesos? No, it's not.

Hey, hell, no. Hey, my boy is crazy. You Josh and Yadi? not me josh and that would be so hard yeah i shouldn't even said that on no jumper what the fuck oh you had to flex you had to flex not that buzzbo i got new music coming yo shout out to evan dodson for the five gifted members you are the fucking man uh no yada you gonna be like i don't have a song tweet about it yo sir slick the cool said it's capitalism when did he does it but it's being a cultural vulture when vlad does it brandon is a clown can i respond to that sure listen

man, Vlad, see, this is the problem with you and Vlad. Y'all talk about business. Business is the exchange of resources. You niggas are asking for favors. Come do this for free and I'll fly you out. That's a favor. It's not free if you're flying them out and getting them a hotel. Absolutely nobody on earth thinks that's free because it costs a bunch of money.

Did Aaron the plumber call Vlad and say, hey, can you please fly me out? No. So if you're offering to do that, you're asking for a favor. favor. Hey, bro, come be on my show for free so I can get a million views. That's not business. That's a favor. You guys are mixing favors with business. Let's go combat sports with it. Let's say I'm organizing a UFC event. And there's one guy and he agrees that he's not going to get paid, but he's going to get flown out and get a hotel. And it gets to be on the car and exposure and, you know, additional fights on his car on his record is basically what he's being rewarded with.

And then that guy just doesn't show up to the fight. This will destroy his reputation within the fight community, regardless of the fact that he wasn't getting paid. This was a financial, this was an arrangement, regardless of if it was getting paid on an actual dollar amount. There's all kinds of subcultures all over the world in the BMX world. Yeah. And all these BMX dudes that were going on trips,

all these years. I never heard one of them asked to get paid. But they got free room and board, and they got flown out. They're happy as pigs and shit to be able to have that opportunity. One of them just didn't show up. You know how exercise they would have been from the community? Well, why you, wait, oh, this is directed at me.

Battle rap probably very similar. Hip-up, one world in which people expect to get paid for their services, which fine, but if you agree to something and then don't show up, you're, you fucked up. Just look at me. Look at me. Stop looking at your professional glazer right here. Just because I'm going to tell you. But he's going to say the most obvious shit that I'm saying.

I'm not trying to do the stuff that you're, that you just said with somebody like John Jones, someone who's already one of the most successful fighters in the. History of the sport. You wild him, bro. But what I'm telling you is, Aaron the Plummer is the same as John John. What I'm telling you is, Aaron the Plummer is up right now.

I'm not saying he's going to be up in 20 years, but right now, bro, has been compensated for his time, and people will pay to bring him to somewhere for views. That's the difference. The way you are, the premise that you're trying to operate on is faulty, because we're not acknowledging the fact

that Aaron the Plummer has already established himself as a draw. Then why did he agree to do an interview in exchange for a flight in hotel? Because he literally was like, this dude trying to play me, I'm going to play his ass. I don't want to keep out in this conversation because it is literally impossible that you believe the bullshit that it's coming out of your mouth. There's what I'm telling you. There's 5,000 people watching right now. Not one of them is retarded enough to fall in.

It's so outside the realm of what anybody could possibly believe. It's also a stark contradiction to what he's been saying. was trying to get a free flight out of him. So beyond the pale. He did get the free flight out of them. And then he did do his interview after being flown out and putting those out. So you're saying that that's what he intended to do? I believe he intended to do that.

I think he was just like I get a free trip to York. He couldn't get paid for the. They didn't. He tried to get paid. Glad said, I don't have enough to give you for, I can't pay you, but I'll get you a flying hotel. And he agreed to it. And then he.

And then he reneged on the deal. Yeah. So what I'm telling you is, if you guys sent his business, Vlad should have said, look, man, can you do me a favor? If I get you a flight and I get your hotel, you could come be on my show. And in business they would have led with an offer. They would have said, I will give you X.

That was the offer. No, that was the offer. No, actually, he didn't even leave with that. He led with, would you do this interview just for expose? That's a favor. That's a favor. When they started talking about compensation. Would you?

When they started talking about. All of the history of doing interviews, only in the last couple years have people even thought about the idea against Hay. That didn't exist until the last couple of years. If you calling me and you ain't talking money, you deserve to get played. King Glazer here. But you'll be blocking your blessings then because the exposure that Aaron the plumber would have got from Vlad was immeasurable in terms of value.

Right. And King Glazer here. You said that, first you were talking about how record labels need to be held accountable for the way that they're finessing artists, right? I never said that. Yes, you did. I said they're not finessein these niggas. These niggas are willingly signing those concerts.

Then you said that you were, you were, you were. applauding Master P for being an independent icon and making his own way, right? Yeah. And then you applauded Puff Daddy for being a predatory part of the same exact system. You were just saying- I don't know if I applauded him? I mean, you did. We could look back-

Vlad is Master Pee. Now, what I'm saying is you contradicted you- Pade his artists. You contradicted yourself-Bad pays a lot of his arts. Five different times in the course of this conversation, as recently as right now. So now you're saying that black people shouldn't be. be held to the same level of standard of accountability when it comes to doing business. He is being held because it is. No, he's not. He did bad business. Lush. He did bad business.

What you're saying is so, we're wasting airtime. No, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. No. What I'm saying is, by the rule of the law of capitalism, he will be held accountable for his actions. What I'm saying is let that be what it is because other people won't want to pay for anything. But we can make content out of calling him off. What is that? And I can make content off of. Can we? It's supposed to be business. But in business, if somebody don't do something they agree to, you don't go, what business,

Target, whatever, goes and tries to dig up paperwork on somebody just because they reneged or didn't follow through with an agreement. Welcome to the interview. That's exactly what we do here. That's what I'm trying to tell you. And I'm calling it what it is. It's some petty favor shit. Let's stop masking it under the guise of business.

No, it's just a bunch of petty gossiping motherfuckers being petty. This is by far your worst argument ever. Okay, continuing on. You're like a smarter fly-mo. The people are with me. Neem is retarded. Neem, get the hell out of here. Reap Cash said,

Lefty Gunplay is the DMX of L.A. I completely agree with this statement. And then continuing on, Paris Vecote said, why aren't y'all speaking about Oscar De La Jolla getting interviewed by the feds for being a victim from a past crime this week? I don't know anything about that.

Sounds like a Wack 100 thing. We could get more into that in the near future. Wait, goddamn victim gang? Oh, fuck. I lost it. This is good. All right. here we go here we go. Reap Cash, lush.

Was that your girl rapping on No Jumper? Big dude in the black tea. You don't have no light skin people in your family sus black bro. My sister's light skin. I have two sisters or Lyskine. Reap, The Homi, you feel me, the maker of RIP, Pat, one of the most streamed songs

in the history of No Jumper music. And one of the hardiest guys ever. Yes, that is my girlfriend. For sure. All right, X, X, X, said. Brandon loses credibility with Kaklin, like Stephen from Django, had a white man saying the N word in front of him, but want a fake press Dodson, SMH. Well, white dude said the N word in front of him.

He didn't say it. Well, you said that he did. I was just messed around, but. Mo Info said, interview that wild man, Fleeze Johnson. Anybody who has a connection to him, let me know, I will interview him. I don't care if he was a rapist behind bars, and if he tore up many men's bullsies,

I will still interview him. I don't care. Jeff Hunt, Ranecker of holes. Renewed his membership and said, interesting panel tonight much love reno nevada shout out jeff hunt and then sandwich chef said you guys should have sword fights with sticks like these two bums i saw battle at a gas station on youtube a few weeks ago that is a cool idea that might be the best scott man we've seen and then neem key said lush frisco

slash oakland hood to our when and can't just ignore redlining and its effects remember the vast majority of wealth is inherited be cool though okay and then last two skin christ said be pumper update and you're going to get him on a track? Listen, watch the beginning of this podcast, like the first 10 minutes I explained the Bryant-Bubber situation, and then Sticks and Stones, LA said, shut out, Brandon,

suspect is a buster. Okay. He didn't want to read that. He spelled it weird. He wrote superked. I assume he means suspect, but it's... It was a typo. Stop trying to save suspect by calling it to his typo.

Superked? Okay. I have to scedaddle home because I have a small child to deal with at this exact moment. but tomorrow we're on we're going to be making some content it's gonna be a good time that's fine okay and I don't know if you guys want to hit any more topics I'll pull the topics up right here any of these stand out to you guys I'm not Dominican I'm down

if you guys want to keep hammering away go for it what is this these are the topics a lot of these have kind of already been covered we can show them on the screen too if people want to maybe the chat could kind of decide what gets covered but either way I got a dip I appreciate you guys so much see some of you tomorrow I'll be there tomorrow. Yeah, you should shut everything 420. Are you leaving to? No, I'm posting.

Okay, cool. I'm posted. Okay. This man has to go babysit his own. You can't babysit your own kid. Yeah, my girl always gets mad when I call it that. Look. Hey, I feel like she should be.

Hey, so here we are. Hey, listen, dude. Listen, dude. Boom, boom. Listen, do what? Don't wait to Adam leave then start trying to say some random stuff. He left that gas. Oh, you know, we got weed.

Here's the thing. This is a real shit. Conrad, could I just say that it's very refreshing. It reminds me of having brick around, having you hear. You feel me? It's like the club. Bro, I miss the homie. You know, minus the booker.

You're like a little less gay brick. Minus the books. Speaking of books, I got something on Briggs' books. I mean, I've been putting money on the homies' books. A lot of people don't. putting money on the money. You feel me? We got to put money.

Hey. I'm just going to be a right for show. Okay. So do you think that Brick should put all of his music out like now or should you like spread it out over time? I would just put that shit out now. I'll just do it now. I think we need to get Brick's music out. Yeah, we're doing it now.

I've been talking to Brick. about it, you feel me, and I want to help you feel me, initiate. Jada back in the cut. Yeah, matter of fact, actually, when he called me, when I talked to him, that's what he mentioned. He actually mentioned that. Like, hey, I want you to blow my shit and shit, so.

Yeah. He's going to be dropping shit. He's going to hit me back about it and they're going to move forward to that shit. Yeah, he was, he was talking about, like, artwork and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got a gang of shit. That a nigga was working. And not only that,

I think that I think I would explore the option to potentially try to sell some of them versus because I know he got a gang of empties. Some of these people might want, you feel, me? Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying, like, we got to take, like, look,

brick, like, you, I feel like you have a big mischaracterization and misperception of brick. I feel like you think that brick is this ignorant guy. I don't have any perception of this nigga. I don't know him. He doesn't know me. I don't have really no opinion on him. He seems like it.

I did one show with him. I think that you guys would get along. I mean, we might get along. It's just I'm not like enamored by the niggas like, like, Lord, like you are. You like, why is the fucking got to be like that? I'm talking about the homie. You got to like, I'm trying to like keep the truth alive for the homie that's going through some shit. And then you turn it around.

Did you hear me say anything? I sat right here quietly. He said, he's trying to say like, he tried to say like, he tried to say that is gay and I'm trying to like show love to the homie. No, it's not even. You know, a white guy who's excited that black friend. and there's nothing wrong with that. Nah, bro. Why do you feel attacked?

I mean, bro, you just literally said some crazy shit. No, I didn't. You did, bro, I don't give a fuck about having black homies. I just been had that shit. You feel me? Bro, throwing homies under myzies. No, I'm just saying I don't give a fuck about it.

It's not like some special thing. It's not some special thing that's like an honor to me. Like, I just grew up fucking with black and brown people. That's why I be around gang. It's not that serious. You feel what I'm not. It's not exotic to me. Like, oh, this is a lot.

my first time being here. No, like, like, Brian, ain't this since the motherfucker. I want you to do something right now. I want you to say one positive thing about Sharp. Sharp. Sharp was cool before he started acting like a bitch. No, no, no. One positive thing about him now. Oh,

Sharp. Okay. Sharp not fully white. That's a positive thing that he's not fully white. Yeah, because I call him white boy as a derogatory thing to make it. Because he thinks that he, because he I think he like out here, like you feel me in the streets. No, see, it's hard for me to not say anything, but I'll say something positive.

I don't think Conrad. You hate Sharpe. Yeah, I hate Sharp. Be a bitch. But, like, no, I think that. Comrade, and that's why I said in the free Brick song, I said, Brick, why you fuck? I said, Brick, why are you friends with Sharp? He's gay and disloyal.

So Sharp called you right now. Hey, Lush. I know, we had a lot of different, our differences. You know, bro, like, you know, we not argue. We almost fought. But I really need a kidney right. now, bro, can you shoot me one? A kidney?

You gotta get tested. You come out positive. Would you give Sharp a kidney to save his life? I'm smoking on that kidney pack. I'm smoking on sharp kidney right. I'm asking a real question. No, I genuinely, not only what, like, I don't even think I give any of my

good friends a kidney. You feel me? You don't give sharp a kidney? But definitely not sharp. Like, if he, like, if Sharp is, if Sharp was unhealthy and was that bad things happening, I would celebrate.

I celebrate bad things that happened to him. Man, I don't even know the topics. What, okay, woman claiming a Lil Wayne girlfriend said he kicked her out on Mother's Day and beat her in the past. I mean, what the fuck do you expect from Louisaine? He's a drug addict. Not all drug addicts are abusers. Drug addiction is not synonymous with abuse. There might be some overlaid on the Venn diagram.

If they abuse themselves, there's a high probability that they'll abuse you too. with the right set of circumstances. So where we draw the line with drugs? Is coffee a drug? Caffeine could be considered. It's a stimulant. Okay. So that's in the category of drugs.

But caffeine occurs naturally in the coffee bean. Methamphetamines is a mixture of shit that you get at home deep. Obviously, like, methamphetamine is a janky-ass drug, right? Liquid plumber ain't growing on a tree. But I know people that got more twisted off of, like, fishing than they did. When I say, fishing, I mean literally going fishing. They're doing methamphetamine.

Do you think Wayne beat this bitch up or not and kicked her out? I mean, would it surprise me? No. Like, you feel? You know he did this. Just him like just Lil Wayne having erratic behavior surprised me in any capacity? No. You feel me? Jayne McPup. If you were a slave owner and

Little Wayne were you a slave, how many lashes would you give him for beating up on his girlfriend? I would never own a slave. I did say that. Hypothetically speaking, for the sake of entertainment. How many lashes would you give a little way for beating up his other girlfriend? I'm going to defer to somebody that knows a lot more about slavery. You feel, me, and owning slaves.

So why don't you tell me a little bit about it? You tell me. What would you do if you was a slave owner? I know you jerk off to fucking Django and Jane. So I'll go down there and be like, this is my bitch now. Hey, hold on. Hey, hold on. Yeah, yeah, I'm 18.

I'm old enough. Oh, hold on. There's a new movie that came out about, like, slavery and vampires and shit. Michael B. Jordan's sinners. I watched that shit. Yeah. I heard that shit. I mean,

what did you like about sinners? I wasn't even really in it, into it. Like, I was just on my phone, chilling. I just wanted to go to movies just too. There was nothing about that that surprised you. Did you like the violence? And all the bitches in there were like, oh my God, Michael B. Jordan.

Like, every time he popped up on screen, the bitches was wet. Hey, you know one thing about sinners that surprised me? The white people music was. Real entertaining. I loki was, like, thinking about that shit when I left. Like, I looked it up on Spotify. I started listening.

It was, like, eerily addicting. I was just like, I never thought I could be, get into, like, Celtic music, Irish music. This man, a smuggling. Hey, but, look, you wouldn't, you wouldn't, you want to give your, you want to give that for kidney? No, fuck no. Man, the Bible says feed your enemies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm not 100% holy.

You guys wrote the damn Bible. But I'll say something good. about him like like like sharp could be cool sometimes when he's not acting like a bitch imagine that this after you gave him a kidney be like i gave you a kidney you know that this would be going hard first of all my kidneys barely work this kid got some wisdom he's more mature than me this guy said he you will forever own this man you could punch yourself in the back in your fill of pain oh you go oh you out oh you're gonna hit up with y'all hey nice to meet you i'll see you again

okay sure later my buddy I got you. Okay. Car man from that. Bada, Raq, X Jada Mac coming to him. So where are you?

I don't know him. So where are you from? Like what area? Orange County. Orange County. What city? La Habre. Hey,

I've been in La Habber. Okay. Where? There was a jiu-titsu gym out there that I trained at. And then also I went to Brooks. Man, all the kids are going to that jujitsu shit for one week. Be like, I don't know how to fight get the ass whoop. That's what happens.

In class, they be like, I know how to fight. Whip there. You whoop their ass in school. Yeah. Hey, look, sometimes some people just got the sauce, man. Our folks be like, hey, I know karate is just fucking get, ah, I start crying. Just crash out on them. So what is it like growing up in La Habra, man?

Like, I mean, because I'm from Long Beach, like, Elagher. We don't even think about La Haber, so I'm trying to get to, like, understand. You're the same area code, though, 5, 6-2. Really? Yeah, everyone think, when I say I'm from the 5-6-2, everyone thinks it's Long Beach, but it's La Havra. You learn something new every day? I had no clue. But is it like, would you say like the street element in La Habra is something that comes from like people just having a lack of things to do?

Because I think of La Habra is kind of a like desolate place like where there's not a lot to get into. I'm going to say, I ain't going to say like it's ghetto, ghetto, but you know some spots get bad, you know? Yeah, you could get chippy out there. Yeah. Okay, okay. So what do you do? Like what's your name? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hold on.

Show him the new verse, bro. wait let him i want to get to nothing i want to let me never mind never let you i'm a rapper okay what is your name what is your rap name jada mac jada mac how long have you been rapping how old are you and how long have you been rapping um 14 i've been rapping uh i think like almost a year now in august it's going to be a year okay so tell me this everybody has inspiration in everything they do where did your inspiration to rap come from what artists um it made you feel like i could do this. Well, loki, I got into rapping because I was going to concerts, you know, I started going to concerts when I was 12, like two years ago. Okay. And the rappers be like, hey, look, you pull him up on

stage, you know, because I knew all their, so I got on stage with Roddy Rex and Drex the Joint. Okay. I got pulled up on stage and then after that, I went to a lefty show and he pulled me up on stage and, uh, he did, they did a clip like where he's telling me like, oh, stay in school, you know, be good. Um, that clip got like two million viewers. was on TikTok. So after that, they tagged me. So I got like,

probably like a thousand followers on Instagram. Okay. Like, I was just to say, fuck it, I'm gonna start rapping, you know?

So, yeah, okay, that's, I mean, listen, there's a lot of people out here trying to rap and don't even got that

type of experience or exposure. So kind of like them pulling you up on stage kind of gave you a sign that like, something is special about me. Yeah. I think it was like the, like the image. Like,

you know, I was a kid like rapping all the lyrics and, you know? Yeah, like Lush. No one ever pulled this thing up on stage. They kicked him off stage. You must be, you must not know about.

He thought he was crowd surfing. You must not know. I'm the international crowd rocker. Like, you would have to like rock. Hey, it's full of Malibu. Malibu's most wanted. Y'all got me fucked up. Traffic, traffic, traffic.

Looking for my chapsid, feeling kind of carson. Got some hard, man, bring. Y'all, we can nod. It's like, when I say Mally, you say boo. Malibu's, boo. Boo? Y'all, y'all are tweaking.

I'm going to let y'all know. I'm going to let y'all know. I don't rock. Look, y'all, y'all going to see the level that's been attained. You feel me? Like, one day, I believe in Jada Mac. Oh, you want me to spit that verse? Go ahead.

All day. I'm ready to hear it because I believe you are good. I just feel like that would be, like, the best way for you to, like, understand. I'm doing this on a mic drop next week. All right. Yeah, turn it out so you don't get demonetized. As long as you hear it, that's all that matters. Hold on.

That's all that matters. You're just like, yeah. Go crazy. Go crazy, yeah, you'll be straight. Hey, bitch and nine on my hip and best believe it's shooting missiles. It's play ball. Game on you, out of bounce with a whistle. I'm shooting off the dribble, no jumper with this pistol.

I wouldn't give a bitch a dollar, not even a nickel. I'm a motherfucker mac. Fuck, I look like giving handouts. You dissing on the kid, but all your bitch is starts some fans now. I'm screaming fuck mob. So all you pussy getting whacked out If I'm suitor up Best believe it's gonna be manned down

If I feel some type of way And it's gonna be a homicide Fuck that we put them on the news You make them, Mama's cry You can't deal away And body bags To bring them candlelights You never make it to the ICU

So don't even try This bully breaker on my hip ready to chip some How you say you were killer You ain't spill none To get a conversation out of me You gotta kill one But by the look of your eyes You never flip none

I ain't on my hip Best believe it's shooting missiles It's play ball game on you You ought to bounce when a whistle I'm shooting off the dribble No jumper with this pistol I wouldn't give a bitch a dollar not even a nickel, bitch.

That's all y'all getting. Play ball, motherfucker. Hey, hold on the merch. Play ball. Play ball. The merch, okay. Hey, we see, we see, Unk got it on. You see, he got it on.

The oldest full with the merch on. Hey, man, fuck something like, this is something heavy. Listen, you sounded a lot better than a lot of these dudes I've been listening to. You was on, you was on beat. Your cadence was good. I mean, your, your, your choice of lyrics was good. It all went together. I did not immediately say

this guy needs to find another hobby. You sound good. The biggest thing is, the reason why you sound so good is because you're an educated young man. You went to school. A lot of these dumb-ass niggas dropped out of school. You know, bro's only 14.

I understand, but he's 14. Dude, four years you're going to be grown. I'm just telling you sound like an educated person who is doing this because you want to, not because you have no other alternative. That's what's going to make you successful. Because as long as you made that choice, Some of these dudes can't even read.

They own drugs. They're rapping because they're unemployable. You just understand that when you do what you do and understand that. Everybody at the top, they're educated, no matter what they're rapping about. And I think you, I think you got a lot of promise and I like those bars. I don't know who the mob is. So I can just enjoy it. I can be at peace with it because I don't know who the hell that is.

But, hey, it's all good. But yeah, definitely. Just keep working on your craft, man. you're going and always just try to get better every day and you I think you're going to really make some moves you're going to make some noise for sure but I think bro, right I ain't going to lie I think he's good. Yes, that's and I'm going to be honest about it. You know, if it was whack, you would have said something very quickly.

I'm pretty sure. Dude, yes. That's one thing I don't tolerate is bad rappers. But like honestly, I feel like Brandon and I need like at least like an episode where it's just us going back and forth. that episode. Keep talking. Hey, hold on.

Free four extras. Yeah, please. Free the boy. Please. Please. Free four extra. Free big baby. Please.

If they're innocent. Free the boy. No, no, no, they're innocent. How we know? I think four extras getting out. Man, even if he did do it, which he did. Hell no. Even if he did it.

Even if he did it. Hell no. Not even if he did. We don't need. Listen. Which he didn't. I'd still say free him. You know, you got it.

You got to, this is a nation of laws, man. Because. If you break in the law, man, listen, if you break the law, take your time like a man. I'm not saying nobody is guilty. Well, obviously,

they know what they signed up for. Exactly. Because everybody just needs to see the reality. But everyone makes mistakes. That is true. That is true. You know what I'm saying? They know what they signed up for,

but everyone makes mistakes. Okay, so you're from Long Beach. Yeah. You've seen the thing about, what's the dude's name? Lil infant. What's the name, Donnie? Oh, I thought that was...

Baby infant chief. Baby infant chief. Yeah. All right. You feel of me? that that's like that's pretty close to home what do you and that's like close home for both you know because that's like I mean what I think is you know that full is grown I don't think anyone should be whipping on a kid like that but at the same time in those videos that

kid know what he signed up for what who he was hanging with but obviously it's not cool to whip on a kid I mean maybe scare him but knocking him out same age wasn't they but hell not that fool was like 20 yeah I ain't going to lie in the fade. If I had to go fight two people in the alley right now, I pick this thing over you, Lush. For sure. Oh, God, I'll be like, hey, come on, bro,

we just going to get it. Oh, no, he's way harder. I'm going to take all the hard punches, the man punches, and I want you to come from the side to just floor somebody. I feel like, I feel like, though, the thing is,

like, that kind of makes the situation a little different is just fools that are y'all's age that are chipping motherfuckers, for real. Oh. Like, that dude's, like, prime age of people that are actually murdering. I got cousins, people, you know, from the city

got locked up when they were my age, during 10 years juvenile life. That's what I'm saying. So it's like, like, it's understandable that those fools would be. You didn't see the 14-year-olds having to shoot out with the cops yesterday? We're at. I'll find it. They didn't shoot, though. It was a standoff.

They were shooting, though. They were shooting at the cops? The two kids, you seen it? Yeah, I saw them behind the shit. Hey, the thing with that, my opinion on that situation has evolved because at first I was like, man, those dudes are totally wrong. That's a kid. Then I thought about it.

That dude's old enough to carry a gun. He can shoot somebody in the right situation. Who knows he's so little. I know he ain't catching no fades. So he probably a little shooter. So I think if that, this guy has been given a choice. Well, maybe that was a wake-up call. Maybe he was like, I'm stay away from that.

Or that would have made him go harder. that's the that's the risk and that's the thing though it's like literally he so rose your same age right he's not that's not 14 that feels like 10 is he that young that feels like 10 have you seen the video of him saying on baby infant chief

I feel so little I feel small he's like 11 or 12 yeah yeah he's younger than you which is crazy and I don't know like I think though like I'm not going to say that he deserved to get his ass beat in any capacity but once you jump off the porch

and you got a flag in your hand. Like you said, you're playing ball. You play a ball. I was just looking at it. Like, if I was like his older brother, I'd be like, he knew what he signed up for. But obviously, like, you know, I wouldn't want that for him to get beat up. Yeah, no, it's scableness. I mean, I'm from Long Beach.

Where he's at is where the real motherfuckers from insane be at. So he's right there. All them dudes, you see them is little, them is YG, there was OG. There's OG dudes. Dudes who are really been in there. I went to high school like four of them dudes. So they've been in the paint forever. but the way he was screaming

I'm gonna just tell bro like bro just to choose another career path yeah because uh well they knocked him out a couple times yeah because we was 14 fighting grown ass men yeah so like a dude from long ago man when I was in high school a dude from Westside

Longgo jumped the fence at my high school and we start getting down with dudes who went to the school yeah coming to high schools was crazy that took like a different level we didn't say oh he's in a adult we hopped on his ass shit you jumping your ass over the gate

talking about my out there's and all that so the whole thing is like you know what you signed up for the way to just bro just find that video download it keep it in your phone is your screensaver and just every time you think you heart just look at that and be like you know what I'm not I'm not that guy

I think that's his villain villain origin story of my being fully honest like he's about to be a straight fucking demon now he's going to become a correctional officer in his ring and revenge I feel like that fool's going to be like baby infant. Hell yeah. That folks are going to be chucking the hood

super tough after this and like going to be activated. I just look at it like for either that's a wake-up car or that's a wake-up call to go harder. That's what I'm saying. Hey, listen, that's a wake-up call to join the L.A. County Sheriff's Department so you could whip these dudes ass and get paid for it. Right. No, that would be the perfect story arc for this dude. Hey, man, I was in the game.

And you can change people's lives. Like, bro, I was out there trying to do that. too until I realize how vicious these dudes are now I want to fight crime. Or you might be like the most corrupt cop. Shout out baby infant chief. And shout out to him. And shout out my boy,

Lil Brazy. Flo, flow, flow, flow, flow, that's the son of the chop. You feel of me? Oh, shout out the boy. He need to follow me back. Yeah, please. He need to get on one song.

As a matter of fact, Lil brazy was supposed to come to do his no jumper interview with Adam Munchy be the other day, but apparently he wasn't able to. Yeah. So when he does, I would like to, you feel me, see the different, see the youth connect.

I want to see it on some positive shit and you all going to be rapping about. You feel me, bettering the community and putting down on pistol. We push him. Now, fuck that. Fuck that. We ain't pushing peace.

No, pee. Not me. That ain't me. No, P.P. No peace. We're not pushing peace. Listen, man, in a way, you are pushing peace in a way.

Because you're choosing to be a rapper. And if you really dedicate yourself to that, that's less time spent on the street doing things that you ain't got no business doing. Yeah, for me, but my rap, getting a motherfucker's turn. I want to slide to my shit. Oh, you want them to slide to your shit?

Yeah. Let them slide the damn imagination, man, because look, if they slide and they get slid on, you losing customers. You have to be like a businessman. I want my own ops to slide to my shit. They can't pack out of the crowd as they all dead. And that's the thing I can say that I know that the ops

love my music. That's like, you know what you feel me? I love that. Lush got ops? Who is? I'll go slide on them. A lot of you. Let me know.

I want you to understand how surreal this is for me as an older person. I don't know who you brought with you, but. I brought the homie beefy. Shout out Mr. tapped in. The homie beefy plugging me in looking out for me.

So shout out to beefy in the building. It's so surreal to me because I'm older. I'm 38 years old. I'm going to be 40. When I was younger, a Hispanic gang member was something just so much different from what you

I'm not saying you're in a gang or anything but a Hispanic gang member was something so much different for what I see now because I came up in the air of like Ben Davis big ass baggy pants shirt buttoned all the way up to the top with the Cortez's

well that's the image we got we're trying to change that shit because everyone says Chicano rap nah I don't label myself as that a Mexican rapper yeah but that's just boxing yourself in you know Right. And most of those people, like, they got it from movies, colors and all that fucking bund up, orale.

Sure. That ain't us. That ain't. So you don't really identify with that part of your history? No, I'm not saying. I'm just trying to change it because that's the image that they already gave us and box us in, you know? How do you look at those people? Do you look at them as like trailblazers for you?

Or do you look at those dudes like as like a relic of the past that you don't want to be associated with? not that I don't want to be associated with them, just try to change it, you know, like, all that, like, Orale, and, you know, that was their time. Yeah, because, Brandon, let's be honest, like, let's even remove, like, the racial tension aspect out of, like,

the Long Beach conversation and shit. Because I'm not to do a racial tension. Just let me cook, let me cook. Like, would you, like, were people around your way ever slapping any, like, essay rappers? Only the old, only the old stuff like lighter shade of brown.

everybody loved baby bash that sugar guy you get so fly but no one was but for the most part that's what I'm saying no one was bumping like really jamming that shit and like like this is like the first time in history I would say like since maybe 2021 and on that like the black community's been embracing Mexican in particular artists like Chicano rappers not not like in the Chicago rap genre like Mr. Caponi or fucking Mr. Shadow or a little rob and shit like that I'm talking about just literal Chicano is a rap because we know Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, et cetera,

been like nice on the mic and been accepted in hip hop for many moons now. But I contribute that to... For everyone talking shit, that says claim lush. Yeah, it's all good. He runs with the Mexicans.

He ain't white. So I think that was more contributed to like a language barrier type situation. Just cultural differences. Not even cultural because we like tacos and burritos and we'll hang out, drink tequila. I've seen that. It's more of like a language barrier thing

because you got to understand a lot of those people who were rapping back then. They came from homes where their parents didn't speak English. So when they're rapping, it's kind of like, dude, this is not we get where you're going with it, but the ear. Yeah, it wasn't fucking pizza, sandwich.

Yeah, yeah. Fools were more like culturally Mexican. It exhausts the ear when someone's speaking like English, but it's not like the way we're used to hearing it. Like him, he's like so many generations in. So when he's rapping, he sounds to me just like a black kid or an Asian kid who's on that generation. But you know what the funny thing is?

Like where he's from Orange County is one of like the last places to evolve. I'll say if I'm keeping in a stack. Yeah. Because like, because I'm from West L.A. where like we're black. You know, because blacks are right there in O.C. That's what I'm saying. We don't have a lot of blacks, you know.

Yeah, exactly. Like where I'm from, there's a lot of black people as well as Mexicans. So fools were wearing back. jeans in the late 80s, early 90s and fucking saying the N-word and fucking wearing white teas and we're doing things way more culturally aligned. Oh, yeah, that whole N-word shit fucking. Some homies don't like it or like a lot of the homies say that, but their parents never said that, you know, like they're getting it from the black culture.

It's a cultural thing. They're embracing that. Now, like a lot of people are starting to say it. Me personally, I don't say it. I mean, which I respect. You feel me? Which I respect. These kids, Asians be saying the N-WRour goes.

to the parking lobby, everybody amongst each other. I want to tap into something else. So you're like, you're a rapper now. You're tapped into the street culture of your area and apparently all over. Which has evolved a lot is the whole point. What is some kids shit that you still enjoy doing where you're just like, man? Even though I'm kind of like mature for my age, I'm really starting to like step into my, my, my, like, my, like, you know, by, adulthood.

Yeah, my adulthood a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Or my purpose. I'm stepping into my purpose. Right. What's some kids shit? Were you just like, I geek out on that and I don't really talk about it. Like, I like watching Saturday morning cartoons type shit or eating cereal.

What do you like to do that's still kids shit? To be honest, since I was a kid, I was always like this, you know, for Christmas. I never wanted no toys. Like, I never played with toys. No, like my brother My brother would play with wrestlers all the way up to He was like 10, 11, but I never liked it. I just, I liked going with my dad to kick it with his homies

And kick with my cousins, like they're all older. Or most of my friends are older, 19, 18, kicking my cousins are like 14. I was probably like 10. So you're like an old soul. You've always been attracted to like the more mature crowd, the like adults, what they were doing. And just.

Shit. I got videos when I was four years old listening to EasyE Bobby Shmurter Bobby Shmurter just came out Chief Keith Since I was little I was always listening To rap and You know what struck me about this fool is like one of that I want to say it was like the second or third time

That he had been around me And it was a I was at my old podcast studio And I just was like including an interview Impuls were taking pictures And this full was like next to where the Where the cameraman was and he looked at me He says like come on love smile smile just the way he said it I was like damn that's like

it wasn't like a young person he's like wise beyond his year yeah yeah he's he's aware he's very socially aware and like the way he interacts and things and I don't want to take away his like youth or innocence because he is a fucking still you know he still I mean but what you're doing is good like that's why I'm telling you like if you were a person

while I felt like you ain't got the personality it's like people want to start a podcast everybody doesn't have the ability to just make some shit up to talk about. Yeah. So I be like, bro, you don't even talk in a conversation. How are you going to talk on this shit? One more thing I want, so I see, I feel where you're coming from, your old soul. You've always been kind of around the older crowd.

And it shows you know how to work the audience. You know how to talk to people interject and say, hey, wait, real quick. This, you really command a lot of like, you know, respect and you have a presence in this space. What I want to ask is this, because I'm going to keep trying to take you back to some juvenile, just a kid's shit. So, favorite meal, like out of anything, if you got your last meal, you know what I'm saying?

She's going to sound old, too, since I was little, I like steak. I'm not even lying. Not my daughter is that. Like, she's 16, since she was nine, steak, dad, Rip- What's your favorite steak? Jayden Mac, I never played with toys. My favorite food is steak. My older brother was playing

with wrestling dolls, so I was 11, and I was like, you were lame. That's what I would always try to play, and I'd be like, I couldn't even like my imagination. I couldn't even like be like, what the fuck you're playing with toys? Like my imagination couldn't even like work. Yeah.

Like what the thing is once you, the thing is what I think is once you're getting your purpose, like you're going to find time to kind of tap into that part of yourself. And a lot of, for a lot of men, like women bring that out of them, that playful side. Like,

because women force you to kind of be like a child a little bit because they like to do kitty shit. I don't know. A bitch ain't forced me to do shit. Say you. saying that now. On a set. Bitch ain't forced me to do shit.

We're coming back in 10 years and you're going to be like, babe, I love you. Oh, yeah. My business got me by the balls. I ain't going to be. She got lush on a leash.

That's how you know it's a good woman. That's how you know it's a good woman. So that's when you know you got the right one when she can make you do some shit you ordinarily would not do. You don't want to like not on a weird like a sucking shit. You're going to want to submit is such the wrong word I want to use. But you're going to want to oblige. I'll say that.

You're going to want to. You're going to want to. You don't want to take care of. But regardless of all that, I will say, because we've been here for a fat minute, you feel me. Jada, Mack, what you got coming up? Oh, I got a fucking working with DJ Flip, working with Westmont scheme. Shout out Westmont. Shout out the homie, Westmont scheme.

What else? Oh, I got merch doing this merch shit. I'm trying to get some vlogs going. That's what I'm trying to do it all. Hit it from all angles. Yeah. Pause. none

Oh Deviant Brandon I mean defying Brandon Sorry Defying Brandon What's crime I know you're gonna be here tomorrow You got a debate

Against a fucking Super racist white nationalist I hope you Honestly bro I'm actually Rune up to you I want you to get in that ass Pause Yes did he

Fucking because this dude needs that work You're supposed to be like Saying negative shit to pump me up You know you're gonna lose right I do I do think he significantly more intelligent than you. And I do think that you don't really have the intellectual capacity to properly debate him. A 500KKK or dinner with Diddy. 500 care dinner with Diddy?

Yeah, fast, fast. Fast and I'll literally spend $1,000 on a fucking, I'll literally get a bad boy tattoo, like, made by Mr. Cartoon. Like, for real. No cap. But, no, Brandon going crazy. Don't think that me Actually yeah no Me and Brandon got beef

You feel me We don't fuck with each other We definitely got beef Because not the homie Yeah we're gonna take it To the back after this Yeah exactly You probably gonna run the fade

I'll probably lose again Yeah I gotta have I gotta have Uncle Lush back I need to get that back fade after You know me he might run it after And I just like Hey look Listen

So no jumper Who's one person on no jumper You see you gotta click the video I gotta hear what this dude to say. Duh. Nah, hell, nah, this nigga,

let's be talking out his ass. We know this. We already know. Look, we need to let you know with your friends. Just kidding.

But who do you really like, fuck with like, I'm, because he's your friends. So obviously, you get to talk with this guy. That's not my nephew right there.

Yeah, so, but who do you see that video? You're like, I'm clicking this. I got to hear. Who's your favorite? Because I think we should start

making no jumper baseball. Four extras. Brick baby, four extras. was fucking fool. Yeah, loki when four inches on here, he'd be getting it popping. Okay.

Without four extra, this whole building is dead. When that fool's in here, he's loud, slamming on the table. This fool broken mic from bringing it up and down. No, did he?

He did do that. He literally broke, accidentally broke a microphone. So he's a liability to the equipment. I'm just kidding. He's definitely a liability. That's kind of why we love him. He's unhinged.

As am I, and that's why you feel me, you know it's cracking. Superstar Uno. We got fucking Brandon. He killing the game. We got fucking Jada. Hey, shout out of

Shouts to Adam, shots to BESCO. Shouts to Beefy. Someone asked, why do they call you beefy? Because he'd be laying that pipe. I will say this, that please run up

all the streams of all my new music. Please subscribe to my channel. I'm live all the time going crazy. We cook it up on stream. Got some crazy joints on the way. I'm going to do my song with Yadi on stream on Thursday. So yeah, fuck with me. Oh, yeah.

He's getting a feature of Yadi. Yeah, yeah, we're going crazy. Hey, wait a minute. What is this about this person? chased you. Say what? Somebody chased you. Oh, he crashed a car.

What the hell? You talk about you by the beat up sharp? Are you running from people in your own city? No, no, folks ain't chased me. The homie was driving. Yeah, yeah. So we was already in a high-speed chase. No, we was already in a high-speed chase.

And then another car entered the chat. Wait, the only person you should be in a high-speed chase with is the police. someone was chasing the police was part of it no was that we were running from initially i wasn't running from nobody you feel me i wasn't running from nobody matter of fact i told the homie pull over this documented this side like you feel i'm just trying to find out no the homie okay so the homie was driving on the freeway he merged lanes he came a little bit close he cut somebody off oh the dude started following me got off the freeway you feel me i said pull over he said no he's like

plus the homie ain't got else but uh-da-da-da-da-da-ah. So he struck off, you feel-me? We wound up in the back streets of Burbank and somehow collided with the side of the no-jumper building. And then as we collided at Ford F-150, who was the bitch who was a dude that was chasing us, you feel me? And then another car appeared,

and I didn't even know he was being chased by this other car. So when I hop out, I'm like, and I'm trying to talk to the dude. I'm damn near recording for insurance purposes. Like, damn my. back hurt blah da da da da da da but then they told me that that don't work if you don't fire a police report so i can't even now you know how black people felt through slavery running from the clan and shit like literally i felt like that and then i was like uh then i seen was another uh white devil person stop you feel me uh but he wasn't even one of us he wasn't a good american you feel me he was a

bitch ass from you feel me like yeah from where from where she was this close so crucial ass foreign No, no, no, no, he was white. He was white. He was from a crucial, a crucial as foreign land. Damn, bro. I think we're going to figure it out. It's online. Who's the Chris Brown backup dance?

I think he's from like, Chris Brown backup dance. That's crazy. I knew that I recognized, bro, and he was, bro, and he was like, bro, he was like, I hopped out like, damn, da, da, da, what's up with you, bro? How did he follow him? Did he start dancing up on you? Like, it was going to be a dance battle of shit?

He was just standing there. He said, I said, I think you should shake spot. and then like, shake, Nick, I'll show you shake. Then the Johnny's had pulled up.

No, did he? Damn, Lush, your life is exciting. That's a lot going on. What am I doing wrong? They need to make a movie on Lush.

They got a few. Yeah, Rainbow Lush. They got a few. I'm the one that took the whole risk and put the bitty on. I'm the one that took the whole risk and put the bitty on.

Exactly. So what are we doing right now? Are we wrapping this up? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, subscribe to Defiant Brandon. Oh,

yeah, go to Defiant Brandon right now. subscribe to my YouTube channel I loosely talk about some of this stuff but I just think you'll enjoy the channel also I let people come up and give their opinions on things maybe I'll let you guys come up

and give your opinion on some no jumper stuff you know you guys all seem to think you can do a better job than me you consider that your audition to get cussed out on the main no jumper shows I think you and bro Rogan need the debate fade because he's fucking like I think he's like damn I can't

believe that Brandon and his brand is good but I didn't know that Brandon was going to be flexing on me like this I said I was going to curse listen man the bro Rogan shit is not about animosity the bro rogan shit is about bro is so talented when I was listening to

I'm gonna be real when I was listening to Flacco and Traplor Ross talking it was insufferable man you look like Flacco's dad really? You're like he can be that for dad that fool walked in with his African feet last time no shoes no socks

Remember that shit? He did have no shoes on. I feel it looked like he was eating with his toes and shit. He was, I saw a video of him pointing at somebody's shoes, right? And I was honestly wondering can Flacco bend over and tie his own shoe?

I was like, they should have challenged him. But Flokko's my boy. That's a tall order for the, I love Flaco. Flaco's my boy. He's a shout out to Flaco, but what I'm saying is like, bro Rogan, as a person who I know

is skilled on this pot shit, bro, he should have just took over that whole situation. because a Brit and Flacco between that accent and my bro stuttering I was just like

God damn Bro Rogan jump in and start doing the majority of talking so I don't got no issues with Brogan actually I want to do some content with that dude

but I was just kind of like Bro Rogan come on man because my dream is to see dudes like him me up here more often because I feel like

we can get into some more and you too you're a very knowledgeable person I feel like we could get into some more deeper discussions.

No, for sure. And that's what I was saying earlier, too. I do want to, like, because I want to, like, really test the extent of your... You said you're like, Mr. Brown. I want to test the extent of your separatism. Who me? Yeah. Well, I own a farm in Africa.

I got a condo there. I own, like, three businesses there. And if I had the opportunity, if I had the choice, I would just be over there, Herman. But if I was like, I'm coming with you. Look, oh, there's white people there. You, they'll think you're Arab, though. For real, for real.

I mean, there's a lot of Jewish people and stuff there. I'm like, I'm Italian mixed with Jewish. So, like, that make me Arabic. Okay, Italian. There's a town in Kenya called Melendi. That is an Italian tourist spot. So when you go to that town, it's a bunch of white people. Something about Italian people, they think that people like to see them in draws

because they'd be out there sunbathing them. with their little shit. My fuck is beating their skib. So day out there, it's nice as hell. Best Italian food I've ever had. So you blend right in. All right. We finish chop up more.

Y'all know what it is. Jadam. Fat, skinny, tall, Jadamack will fuck them all. Oh, you feel me? Busball, Uno in the cut, you feel of me? Big Brandon. Mr. Brown, that's why everyone's calling you. Free brick, baby.

Free four extra. He'll be out on a week or two. Free my boy. We got a feature. I got a feature on the way with him. All the homies. Okay. And never counterfeit.

We about our grip and we about this bitch. Gone cool as podcast. And fuck the haters. Peace.