No Jumper - The NJ Show #377: Skinheads vs the Hoovers! Dame Dash says Charlamagne is GAY! NBA Youngboy & More

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Can you double check the title for a typo? Because for some reason, one person in the chat was able to make me convince that there's a serious typo. Somebody, a grammar teacher in a chat. Okay, here we go, here we go. What's the same? I can't even click it. Skinheads versus the hoover's. Let's be honest, there's not that many high school graduates between all of us.
Starting point is 00:00:22 So, like, I'm dispelling. I graduated. I graduated, too. Speaker of class. And when I didn't know you graduated. I did not graduate. Oh, yeah, I did. Yeah, you seem like graduate.
Starting point is 00:00:32 I graduated in jail, but I graduated. You seem like the kind of guy who would graduate high school and then false claim being a dropout. No, no, check the game. Oh, my God. For sure. That's what you just did. That was good. That was good.
Starting point is 00:00:46 And you just did that, too. Yo, but I know that feeling. I know the feeling of, like, being around a bunch of people and they all just kind of admitting that they didn't graduate high school. And I'm kind of feeling like a square because I did. Oh, my. I believe I did. You're right. I totally graduated high school. Okay, one second. Big salute. We got to do a big salute to today's sponsor, Legends. Y'all know that this show is always locked in with sports and the culture, and now you can get in the mix for real.
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Starting point is 00:01:51 Anyway, I would like to speak to all the people out there and tell them that we're very, very happy for you to be joining us on another. A lovely Tuesday afternoon slash evening. I'm going to take it upon myself to introduce all of the stars that we have here. First and foremost, we have the mayor of Englewood, Munchy B himself. That point. Welcome Munchy B to the podcast. In addition to that, the runner up from the No Jumper host live stream that has gone down in history.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Atlanta's very own Ugly Money Nietzsche is in the build-in. And ugly money. Hey. In addition to him, we also have the winner of the No Jumper host celebration contest, and that is Fricky Rickie Riecky himself.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Hit yo Ricky. Bobby Ricky, freaking, freaking, freaking, Ricky. The man formerly known as Flip Phone. Formerly known, the artist formerly known as Flip Phone. Normally known as we going to politic on them shoes that you were wearing that had the Reddit on fire the other day. Oh, the lemon pepper steppers? A lot of people felt strongly about those, not me so much, but we're going to politic that for show. Hey, tell them to suck they matter.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Suck your mother. Okay. My niggum Obama phone. In addition to that, someone who made an extremely deep run in the no jumper host search, somebody who appeared on the news the other day and made quite an impression on the, people. People are saying that she might be the best female No Jumper co-host of all time. Without a question, right? Boom.
Starting point is 00:03:35 That's a serious claim. Tam is in the building. Hey, guys. Hey, I'm a snap. Thank you guys for following me on Instagram. I feel very special. I feel like Miss America of No Jumper. I love it.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Okay. Tam is in here today. I know a lot of people are very excited about this. In addition to that, we have for sure the person with the most. most methamphetamines in his urine and or bloodstream right now. The man himself. Hey, hey. Lush, uno.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Hey, A, Mr. Amistifier, you feel me? I'll make a tweaker chick squirt. That's a crystal geyser. Come on, player. What's heading with it? What's heading with it? No, man. Lush at an open mic, I would love to see it.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Drop in those 90s. I'll make him snap their fingers like his ATF. That'll be fired. He's going to commodify somebody's pain in there. Anyway. In addition to that, we have finally, some people call him the goat. Some people call him sleepy head guy. You could call him whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Just don't call him broke. It's Aunt Hefe and he don't care about another one. The Czechos. His house is a jacuz. He'll be living in a jacuz. Why is that still so funny to me? I block from a garth to park. When we hit the spot, we definitely in the jacuz.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Come on, mate. Hey, they don't know about the wee species. They don't know about the wee spezy. How's everybody feeling? We got Atlanta represented in here today. Sure. Nichi, how long are you out here for? Where do you got to plan?
Starting point is 00:05:07 Oh, man, I fly out tomorrow because, you know, we got to get back to the work. Right. But I've had a great trip. I've been out since Sunday. I got to see some palm trees. I got to see some pretty ladies. And I've got to eat some great Asian and Mexican food. Really?
Starting point is 00:05:22 Yeah. I like that, man. I had a good time. That's a beautiful thing. thing. I mean, I know you guys talked about this on the news the other day. What is the mood on the floor on the, on the home turf when it comes to the thug thing? Because on one hand, I feel like a lot of the rap fans have kind of backed off from calling them a snitch fully. But on the other hand, I'm seeing him send out these sort of pleas for forgiveness to the young or to the little babies and
Starting point is 00:05:50 the quavos and the whoever's of the world. And it feels like ain't nobody sending no kite back. They're like not trying to be associated with them or maybe they really feel offended to the point where they just don't even want to talk to buddy. From the things that I've seen, it's really quiet. And you know, like I said, you know, a person will say a lot by being quiet. The people that he cared to apologize to, he's already apologized to. And they haven't said much back yet. But as we've seen in the past, when a person is sure that this person violated, they would immediately, you know, discommunicate and back away and unfollowing those things. And they haven't done those things with Thug.
Starting point is 00:06:30 So it's still maybe an open case on, you know, their perception of what's going on with him. But no one has come out and blatantly, you know, disrespected or say, bro, violated. So still may be hope alive. Because when a rapper snitches, like when 6'9 snitch immediately became like a punchline to the whole rap game.
Starting point is 00:06:49 When Gunna, quote-unquote, snitched, young Thug pretty much ensured that everybody would treat him as a snitch. Nobody is eager to do the same thing to thug in the same way. So it feels like it's going to take some time for us to figure out where he really stands with everybody. Well, I think the main thought process
Starting point is 00:07:10 is the fact that the matter is that he didn't exactly do what some of those other people did. But, you know, if you move the gold post up or you move the cold post back, it matters where you put the goal post. But yeah, no, it's, it's, the verdict is still in the air. Yeah. You know, when it comes to, like, the court of opinion as far as Atlanta rap culture? Am I the only one who heard the seven-minute song that Thug put out where he's kind of speaking to the, he's speaking to baby, speaking to Mariah the science?
Starting point is 00:07:38 He's speaking all these different people. Am I the only one who heard that and thought that might be the worst young thug song I've ever heard? I don't like that. Not only is it the worst young thugs song. He literally, like, is giving, he's like sucking him off the whole song. He's crying. He crying. It's pretty pathetic.
Starting point is 00:07:55 It's an aura diminishing song because he's taken like, he used to be a guy who just oozed aura. He's just out here with his drip, his style, his lean, he's got his big crew around him. And he's like mysterious, but he's kind of like more positive and fun than like a Playboy Cardi, but he's mysterious. He's ducked off.
Starting point is 00:08:14 He's not doing the long interviews, et cetera. Now he's doing the three-hour interview in which he basically just like cops please the whole time. And then he's putting out a song that is like, it wasn't like artistic. It felt like it was just like stuff he wanted to communicate to the world, but it came off clunky.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Honestly, I'm going to say that that thug song had four extra in Kevin Gates' energy. You got something to say, but it's coming out, it's rushing out of you to the point where it's not artful. It doesn't sound sound.
Starting point is 00:08:47 The energy from that song came from the interview, though. Like, yeah. So I'm gonna say that, that it probably was rushed. I ain't gonna say that it's giving four extra energy. It definitely was rushed and like I definitely didn't expect that from him. Like you crying to other man, like you feel me like shit, they feel the need to get back at you when why I'm gonna holler, why I'm gonna holly, get your ass four million. When you got out, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:12 And it's just like you was being chatty patty, my nigga. Yeah, I think we gotta take perspective like thug is not a person that does a lot of interviews. And so, you know, and shots out to Big Bank. Like, he successfully cracked into, you know, Thug's mind and his emotions and everything. So the kid, you know, probably ain't exactly the most emotional person. And so during that week, he was able to articulate that. And, you know, he probably was still in an emotional state. Like, that song sounded to me like Thug was actually speaking from the heart from his perspective,
Starting point is 00:09:44 whether or not somebody agrees with it or not. But it definitely was heartfelt. It definitely was from, I don't think it was fake. I don't think it was manufactured. I think that's how you really feel. It sounds like he left that interview and went to the studio. Yeah, for sure. But, yeah, so he was forced into doing that interview.
Starting point is 00:09:58 That's the first time in his career where he's been forced in a PR stance. He's forced him. From a PR stance. His back was against the wall. He's like, he's feeling he's never been held in such low regard in the court of public opinion. His ascension, he's pretty much been held to idol standards for the majority of his career. Now he's got to go, you feel me, defend himself. He just did the interview.
Starting point is 00:10:21 He wanted Trudley before when he had the mask on. He just did the interview. He did an interview with somebody he was comfortable with. That's what it just sound like. Well, yeah. But it needed to be someone who was going to push him at least enough to give answers. Like Big Bank wasn't just accepting everything he said, even though Big Bank was not being like adversarial.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Why are you guys blaming it on the interview? The song you put out before that was trash. I said this shit before when he first dropped that song. It sounds like I don't like Young Thuggan. No, no, no, no, no. I just said. Or we're on the fence. We don't know what we think.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I have no dislike for me. I love Young Thudder. Like when you, like I said, man, it's with anybody. The energy you put out there, that's what the motherfucker expects. Why start a song where you're apologizing to your homies with apologizing to your girl, too? Because bros come first, Pam. Hey, I, but she's, she should have had a separate song. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Like, damn. You know what I miss my dogs. Right. She should have a separate song. That is kind of like two separate songs energy, yeah. Dirk has an entire genre of Missed My Dogs. He could have made that a separate song. You feel me like?
Starting point is 00:11:20 And here's the closest part of the whole thing. We can't mischaracterize the Atlantic consensus by saying, oh, we ain't really tripping away. QCP has a fucking picture of young thugs. Face on a rat's body has a profile pick on IG. But who is he? So they don't set the standard? He told, too.
Starting point is 00:11:35 No, but that's retaliation for what thugs said about him one of those calls, right? Yeah, but you can't, a rat can't call a rat. All those calls weren't that bad besides the QCP one. Like, like, what do he say about future? He said, oh, he's kind of a retard. He comes in girls. What do you say about Derek? Oh, he didn't send me.
Starting point is 00:11:50 a verse back fast enough. He said QCP is a snitch and everybody in Atlanta knows he's a snitch. No, that's pretty, that's a lot different than like you didn't send me the verse fast enough. Even though we know that that, that, that, that, uh, future skied and everything, bro, why you're to my Arabian, he was over here? Like, damn, you telling all the little. Yeah, he's telling me. Yeah, the pillow talking was crazy for me.
Starting point is 00:12:11 That shit was insane. And he was acting like he was futures big homie the whole time. Like, I'd be teaching him shit. And then when niggas come around, he act like you don't hear me because, you know, his pride or whatever. All that shit is crazy. Who knows his big homie? Let's not get it to us.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Regardless of any of that, bro, like, I think Thug just really needs time in the studio. He just got out the pin. He probably hasn't really been in the studio like that. Still, you got to get those reps in to get that. Hey, whoop-de-do. Hey, effortlessly made one of the biggest memes of the year. Yes. A couple of them.
Starting point is 00:12:40 No bullshit, though, right. I don't think his phone conversation the same as your conversation. He might have been bored on that phone. This, like, this shit crazy. Like I said, you know, we already talked about this yesterday. Yeah. I ain't going to try to coy phrase this, like on the latter, but, but Ralo, he another would have got like a fucking yuck-thug situation.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I just, just seeing that. That's crazy. Like, he another person in his own homie was checking him, too. Like, nigga, what is you doing inside that room talking? And then he tried to come in with, oh, no, I was telling all myself for doing this and that. And he's, like, with page 12, like, so it's just like, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, a sickening, process of seeing all these street dudes. that's supposed to stand on business
Starting point is 00:13:20 you catching them in these interrogation rooms and they have to explain why they're talking to people and why they fucking lawyer and they're asking like they can outsmart the police they're thinking they can speak of police and that ain't how that work you ain't like you gotta understand Atlanta is like the venex capital of the world
Starting point is 00:13:35 so everybody think that they can confess you know what I'm saying and so a lot of times they're trying to spend the police they're trying to vinesse and think they're smarter are bigger than the system and the system actually ends up backfiring and so that's what that's what you're seeing a lot of like
Starting point is 00:13:48 at no point in time do I think that Doug or Rallo on record said or purposely try to put somebody away. Nah, they're trying to work their move. Like, if I can get my man's out or whatever and spend these folk, then that's what it is. Unfortunately, yes, they talk too much. You know what I'm saying? They probably should have had a lawyer
Starting point is 00:14:06 or some kind of representation involved. But I know the fact that it's not like, oh, I'm about to lock that boy up so I can come home quick. No, no, no. No, no. You're supposed to finesse the plug, not the police, bro. And, like, for me, and I'm not going to sit there and say that it's giving them vibes, but just being the person and the characters you stand on, like, bro, you're giving, like, the wrong impression.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Oh, no, we ain't delusional over here. Like, no, it looked crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like, it do look crazy. That work. Well, he's delusion. He thought he could finesse the cops because, guess what? He wound up fighting that case for how many years?
Starting point is 00:14:40 He didn't finesse. He won the case because the retard. You got to understand this. You got to understand. But think about this. How many times have they been under fire and they did get off? We don't know. Like, bro, they just had a RICO, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:54 They had 28 people. Thug walked away pretty much time served. Because of Ward. So, why he said Woody dude, though? Because he was a bad witness. Because he's been, he thinking he's spinning the people. Who? He spent Woody.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Woody, Woody, Woody wouldn't. That kind of does. No, no, no, no. He went in at one angle and then he came back. And then he spun back around. No, that's not. He went out. That's not.
Starting point is 00:15:14 He got, he got, he snixed completely. and they got immunity, so he's like, fucky, I'm gonna help. That's not spinning. But according to him, he never did snitch and Thug know that. When he did, Thug asked him to do that, and then he had to come clean it up, too. Now, he cleaned it. We don't know that Thug asked him to do that. Did Thug say that?
Starting point is 00:15:35 Well, I mean, though, I thug got to say it for it to be true. Woody went on camera like, like you doing all this crying. So we ain't believing nothing he's saying. Yeah, Thug, just went the room and said the same thing. That's what's wrong with niggas right now. Because what's the name and said? I mean, well, I can't be trusted either. Well, I'll write your content and you say the shit that niggas on the S and Y yard don't matter.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Even if it is true. Who said, who said that? You. I said, you didn't discredit people. You said they're on the PCR. Don't put words in my mouth. Because I didn't say that. I ain't said that like that.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I said, I know what I have said if you on S and Yard, nigga, you don't count. No, no, no. These niggins that made claims about people that's on G. You went bad, bro. So you just. This is like, all right, whatever they say, fuck it, because they own the S&Y yard. Yeah, you own a snitch yard, you're on the S&Y yard, of course. So what did I just say differently?
Starting point is 00:16:23 What you mean? What do you just say differently? Eunice said, because this person on the S&Y yard, he said something about somebody else in the DIPP yard. Whatever comparison you're trying to make with Thug is not the same comparison. And how is not? It's not. Because it's not. Tell me.
Starting point is 00:16:37 It's not because Thug doing the same shit being chatty-patti. He's not trustworthy. What are you talking about? You ain't telling you the difference. Fuck it's you talking about, bro. Fuck it. I just told you the difference. You're trying to tell me that
Starting point is 00:16:47 Orca Stubb just said it didn't happen Because because Because Woody said something Nika, you're sitting in here You're the same nigga sitting here saying thug is a snitch, nigga. What are you talking about? You're the same nigga in here is talking to tell me
Starting point is 00:17:05 Don't believe you like Woody said. You said thud. You said thug told him to go there snitch. I said, how do you know that? Because the snicks said it. So why would you believe what a snitch is? It's bullshit, so it don't matter. So the comparisons you trying to make it don't make no sense.
Starting point is 00:17:19 All right, so if that don't make no sense. It don't make no sense, bro. So why believe Woody? What made him credible? Why believe Thug? Why believe Thug? Thud never said. Why believe Thug?
Starting point is 00:17:30 And listen. Why listen to me? Because Thud didn't know he told him to do that. He just said, you did or didn't. Man, look, man. You can tell him about what the fuck Woody said. Right at all. Yeah, I said what he said.
Starting point is 00:17:43 And you believe it. You all said what he said. Yeah, nigg said. Snitches is not credible, man, who was you to tell me what not to believe, nigga? And you said thugsnitz,
Starting point is 00:17:50 so he's not credible, nigga, you sats him oxymor about shit. You sats him actually, I actually feel different after his interview. Now, I'm, okay? Okay. All right, for sure, bro, I'm done,
Starting point is 00:18:01 right, for sure, bro, I'm done. Hey, that's why the streets fucked up now. That's why the streets fucked up now, bro. I actually feel... That's why the streets fucked up now, bro. Explain it. Explain the conflict. You be conflicted, bro.
Starting point is 00:18:12 I'm not conflicted with. This is not what I said. What I said. What I don't understand is why. why would you guys trust in either one of the parties? I'm thinking that anyone who's open their mouth right now is not trustworth. This nigga talking about why I believe somebody. This nigga, he's compromised as well.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Nigga, Woody is getting up there. I feel my opinion, nigger is Woody getting up there. Woody's on record snitching. Stop talking over me, bro. I'm talking to this man. You keep trying to insert talking over me, nigga. I'm talking to this man, though. You keep insuring yourself to talk over it, nigga, bro.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Man, what the fuck is a group saying? I'm certain. So look, nigga, Woody's, nigga, nigga, got back at Thugg, like, look, nigga, if you want to put everything on the table, nigga, you know what you did. You're trying to come out and cry,
Starting point is 00:18:55 talking about niggas is rats, this and that. You talk about, you talking about Yacht Gotti is a rat. You know Yacht Godi is a rat. He didn't tell her nobody. Like you saying, who you told on, who Yat Gotti told on,
Starting point is 00:19:05 Yachti told him. I'm not talking about Yac Gotti. I'm talking about one person. You know what I'm saying? So, Nick, Thugt, so Woody, like, nigga, you talking all this shit. You file, nigga. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:19:15 That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about, I'm not about to go back in for a little. Hold on. Hold on. I don't know. I'm talking about to go back to forth. I'm talking about you.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I'm saying, what making. I'm trying to say, what makes L. Waddy saying credible when he didn't talk from the gitty up. The nigga Thug never said whether he told him or not to tell him.
Starting point is 00:19:36 He never said. He never said that. I'm not believing what the fuck. Woody said. You ain't got to believe him. I'm not about to argue with you by my opinion. Let's just leave it here. Let's just leave it here.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Let's just leave it here. You don't believe you. That's your opinion and I believe it. That's my opinion. What are you talking about? Niggas, because you keep arguing over something. And again, it's a lot of segments we can keep going on. Your opinion, you don't believe him.
Starting point is 00:19:59 In my opinion, I believe him. Okay, all right. This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. You can't, hold on. It's a separate as that. You keep dragging something on about some weird niggas that don't got to be dragged on.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Your opinion is that you, why Thug or Thug just said you believe Thug and I believe No, I don't believe, man Thug never said nothing. I'm believing something to say. This what I'm saying. This what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying, this is like. Who said, dig, I said it's my opinion.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Nigger, what the fuck is you talking about, nigga? This is what I'm saying is why would we trust anything that's coming out of any of these mouths right now when everybody's trying to put everybody in a spin cycle? He just said that Atlanta is supposed to. supposed to be Phonesa capital, right? Atlanta's supposed to be Alana's capital. Am I about to keep going back and forth with you
Starting point is 00:20:46 over these Atlanta niggas and some other shit, bro? Can I just tell you, you can stay stuck on that if you won't talk? What I said, what I said, what I said, what I said, what I said, what I said. Can I just say? What I just say? What I said, what I like? What I said, nigga. What I like about what just happened is that it shows a level of
Starting point is 00:21:05 comfortability between these hosts that they're not just going to skim over the stuff they disagree on. talk about it. We're going to get into it. We might get a little fiery, even if it's about some shit that realistically doesn't have anything to do with us. Adam, you know, the thing about it, like, just from that exchange, it shows
Starting point is 00:21:23 just how argumentative or debatable the situation is. I don't think it's, I mean, if you're talking logically, it's a hard, it's a debate. It could go either way. You know, what he's saying is right. Come on, bro. What he's, much he's saying is right.
Starting point is 00:21:40 It's debatable. And so the whole situation of it's thug this or it's thug that it's debatable it matters with which side of the field you on in your perspective I might have missed it in the back interview that he said either way that he told Woody yes or no to go in there and say what he said
Starting point is 00:21:57 I might have missed he. Thug said that he hasn't said anything derogatory to Woodie because Woody would be on medication I'm talking to this man like you weren't talking to me Thug ain't spoke on a lot of shit so Woody bring us up now I'm saying I'm saying this he never said yay or nay.
Starting point is 00:22:12 He said, why would I believe in? He never even spoke on that. That meant took it upon itself to say, thug told me to do that. Why we believe a nigga that that snakes from the beginning? Well, that's what I'm saying. And I will say that Woody has been on record saying
Starting point is 00:22:26 that he will say anything to keep himself from out of jail. But what I don't get is, what changed your opinion, Monchy, because the fact of the matter is this. No, no, no, no, no, not tell my opinion. So let me ask this question. Let me ask this question. Who would he?
Starting point is 00:22:40 Hold on okay, can I answer his question? Go ahead, bro. It had me wondering because to back up what the thugs in, like I would have to hear different people corroborated, but if I had them corroborations, it would probably make me lean more so like, okay, you didn't sneak. Right, but you're only focusing on one situation. You're not looking at the Peewee Roscoe situation,
Starting point is 00:23:07 which is even though... You talked about that. No, okay, so you're... I'm talking about. I'm talking about everything that was talked in the bank. Big, what the fuck is that? Big bank. Big bank interview and totality.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's like, to me, the most egregious thing. Beyond him. You're talking about the 2015 take? Correct. Yeah. Well, you got to understand what you're talking about. You're talking about it.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Let's, not to cut you off, bro. On some street shit, bro, let's be real, bro. The nigga just got caught doing some shit that he wouldn't admit it to if it wouldn't it came out. He wouldn't admit it to none of these phone calls, bro. So why is he's going to come? out and admit to something that Woody is saying. I'm not saying, nigga, what Woody is saying is true, nigga.
Starting point is 00:23:48 It's my opinion that I believe it. Yeah, nigga. Just because Thug ain't came on to said nothing, Woody has responded to Thug interview. And in an interview, Woody is saying, okay, niggas, you want to say about this to about niggas and snitching the niggas did this and that. Nigga, put this out there.
Starting point is 00:24:03 This all is a result because of you, nigga. Hey, he said, the people he talked about in them conversations, he had said this to them before. That seems a little hard to believe in some cases. Realistically, I'm like you guys. What you're trying to argue me down about Woody and Thug, bro,
Starting point is 00:24:23 because I said, I believe that. All we can do is what was said publicly. We can't guess what's in these people's mine. Now, this man never said whether he told him to go in and go on an interrogation to do some bullshit or not. But this man did say that, oh, he told me to do it. I'm saying, why, believe him on some bullshit like that? When he went in there and told,
Starting point is 00:24:42 he said on record, I'd say anything to get me out. What's what he said on record? Who did Woody get in jail? Who did he get in jail? Yeah. You sent to your snitch. Who he told him? You see some paperwork on he?
Starting point is 00:24:55 He got whooped out and then. Man, for all that, bro. Makes you a question, bro. I'm answering it. How the fuck I'm answering? He got whipped out. Got in the car at these niggas. And this part of the investigation,
Starting point is 00:25:06 all behind. What's the, what's the guy he was in the car with? But I tried to go slide because he got whipped out at the club of the Mackie City. Oh, fuck. What was I got in? Oh, this is Stanford somewhere, Bo.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Yeah, no, what happened? Let's say it's somewhere. That's just saying the nigga Snitch. That's like me. That's like you getting into a situation. And I believe you got in a situation. And because that situation, I'm like, oh, my, I think Munchy a snitch because this situation happened.
Starting point is 00:25:30 What are you talking about, bro? No, I don't follow you. You got to start from the top. I didn't hear that. I didn't get it. You said, because of what? I got to do a quick break real quick. I hate to do this.
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Starting point is 00:26:40 You guys got pretty intense about that topic, which I would not have expected at this point in time to really, like, stir such emotion between people. It don't even really, they ain't even stir no emotion because I don't give a fuck about the situation. It's just that, like, this, this. Niggas sound like you care about it.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Then you keep trying to say slick shit, bro. Like, by gone, you keep saying, nigga, niggas, man, let, bro, you talk. Yeah, but you're trying to feed the chats. I'm not with feed the chats, my nigga. The chat. Yeah, like, this the thing, bro. What the fuck the chat got to do with anything?
Starting point is 00:27:08 This is the thing. This man is set up in here Going to get Stug, we could push it up weeks ago Oh, Thug, this and that Now he's asking me Why do I believe something Woody said because
Starting point is 00:27:19 Oh, Thug can say that We just listen to a fucking whole interview Where young thugs sounded stupid as fuck We listen to phone calls We listen to fucking music with this nigga crying That's your opinion again We listen to the music You're like my opinion
Starting point is 00:27:30 We're listening to music with this nigga crying That's her opinion, but would you come out Like, nigga It's a lot of shit your ass ain't spunk about the toy So since you want to put shit out there, since you want to push shit out there, let's put this out there, nigga. So why you believe that? Because it's my opinion to believe it, nigga.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Because you arguing with me about what I believe for. Let me just say it feels kind of weird because I, like, I've called King Yella a snitch for what he did. What Thug did is so much worse than what King Yeller did. King Yella got pulled over by the cops. He told him whether he is snicks or not. He told the cops like offset is a GD. Two right.
Starting point is 00:28:09 That ain't nothing. They're trying to debate me about two rogue shoes. Man. Shit is crazy. Who's more of a snitch is a question? No, ain't no more. Ain't no more. Snitch is a snitch is a shit.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Shit is crazy. They're trying to debate me about two wrong shoes. Hey, hold on, hold on. I'm just saying that I can't say young thug is in the clear when I've called King Yella a snitch over and over. It's got to either be like, King Yella, you all right. Ain't nobody said that. And Thug is right or Thug is bad and you're bad.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I'm saying. I got to hear Thug's album before he's a snitch. Jesus Christ. That's the real answer. So far, it's looking bad. Music's got to improve. They've got to get the music. You got to get the back doing some player of music, bro.
Starting point is 00:28:48 That's all it is. All they talking about location shit, the closing statements, whatever that shit called, closing arguments, and apologize. Get back to the player's seat and he'd be all right. See, this is what happens when the music is weak. It wasn't enough melodies in that shit. And now the homies is arguing instead of saying that that shit was kind of cool. So you're like you're the one of them from?
Starting point is 00:29:07 Hell no. This was weak as well. It was like storytelling rap, right. Which is like, some people could pull it off, a lot of people came. King Vaughn's amazing at you. I don't want to hear thug's rapid voice.
Starting point is 00:29:17 I want to hear some. I like the end of it. I like the end of the song. I'm trying to figure out what he's saying. I'm about to say the same thing. I like the end of it. That's the thug that we knew when he kind of went up.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Nah, Thug on dropping jewels. Who was the dude singing on it? What you mean? That was thug. There was a, there was a, it was.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Oh, that was my dog. My dog is that my dog. Nah, he's talking about something completely different. He wasn't the only one on that song. Nah, no, it was some background vocals. I know what you're talking about. I didn't see the name of the person tag,
Starting point is 00:29:47 but no, he's saying he was saying. No, no, I know exactly what he said. That was a good bar right there. Nah, man, but I think like, yeah, Thug, like, if he get back to the music, people, unfortunately, people will rather be entertained than me and told the truth. And if a lie or the entertainment is more entertaining,
Starting point is 00:30:05 yeah, man, Thug gonna be alright. Well, we just seen that Thug is, Thug is headlining Coachella, right? There you go. Is he? I don't know if he's headlining it, but he's like pretty high up on the... It's just to say like I... Like 6-9 wasn't...
Starting point is 00:30:19 Well, he probably never was going to be invited to headline Coachella. But like when 6-9 told he was never going to be on a rolling loud again, you know, it was just like he got X out of everything. Thug, thugs, because the main thing is that Thug, people love Thugs music for many reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with street stuff. I'll say street stuff is like very low on the list. You know, like, that's not why people listen to him. Let us tell him.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I liked his street rep. Yeah, but it was never the primary value proposition when it came to thug. He was 13 years old when he shot that chopper. He went all the way. He was on the stand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He went to the full extent. Yeah, it's a difference with six nine of a little.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Well, it's far as, I mean, if you classify that, you classify it, but the actual physical things that six nine did thug did not do. Right. Let's just be real. Oh, yeah. If you are concerned about Thug's career, if you look at what happened with Gunner with his allegations and he became twice as big, if not 10 times as big,
Starting point is 00:31:18 I mean, you can't come out this shit winning. Is he bigger than... Is he bigger than... Then he was with pushing Pee. For sure. Musically, we have not... Oh, Gunner is huge. Gunner's had a bigger record than pushing Pee.
Starting point is 00:31:29 That is probably the biggest artist in Atlanta. But when Gunner got... By the way, I've been saying this for a week. For sure. He didn't do. No talking. And see, that's the thing. Like, that's why I really think that, like, I'm like, man, damn,
Starting point is 00:31:40 Jeff, like, man, just drop the ruckers, man. Let the music talk. Stop goddamn doing all this damn yip-yap, and that's what got you in this shit and got damn drop the music, you know what I'm saying? Perhaps young does not have a fuck you mean. I don't agree with that totally, though. You don't think that gun is bigger.
Starting point is 00:31:54 You don't think that gun is way bigger. I've been saying that for the entire time I've been up here than Thug. He's been bigger than Thug for a really long time. I feel like he was mine in the eye. Post-Ly on cell trial, he has dropped multiple albums that have done extremely well where I was thug has not dropped He was always the better artist. He was always the better artist. Hello, Carol G's headlining.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Whoever the fuck Carol G is, he's headlining below it. Don't do Carol G like that. Shout to the Spanish girls. Exactly. Rasa can know the Spanish. Yeah, legend. I never heard of her. Yeah, she's a Spanish singer. With banners. Yeah, she's got hits. I know Justin Bieber.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Bro, how is Addison Ray? Show the, show the flower. Bro, the strokes? Addison Ray being that high up on this list is kind of wild to me. She got that booking agency. Hey, that's that TikTok cloud, I guess. And then wait. I don't look kind of hard out there.
Starting point is 00:32:46 What the fuck is. Yeah, why is Addison Ray higher than sexy red? I thought, oh, yeah? Yeah, that's fucked up. But I mean. Coachella, you're talking about? Yeah. Who the fuck is nine inch noise?
Starting point is 00:32:57 I keep thinking that it's going to say nine inch nails. Very disrespectful. No, but okay, for the record. Oh, yeah. Central. He kind of low, too. damn. I think he's appropriately
Starting point is 00:33:07 You all got 10th of the same level as foster the people What's the people see right now? Central C should be above Yeah huge though They haven't had his
Starting point is 00:33:15 pumped up kicks right I still feel like they're huge though Like as a festival draw I feel like they're a big deal you know But yeah I mean there's
Starting point is 00:33:24 You get some reality checks When you get put on a flyer for a fucking festival You know just find out There's all kinds of artists That could be perceived I mean
Starting point is 00:33:32 Well at the same Look at the same Look at a low Iggy Pop That's pretty... That says, like, hey, your seniority is not necessary. Look at clips below wet leg. What the fuck is wet leg? Wet leg got hit.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Is that some good shit? Come on there. I never heard of wet leg. I never heard of him. The only time I got a wet leg is when I piss myself. Hey, no. Hey, Tam is needed because she know these names, bro. Yeah, you listen into, like, non-rabbies.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Do you look how little black flag is, Adam? Black flag's on the fourth row of the last... Where is black flag? I mean... That's not what that... Compared to this day and time, like, it's... It makes sense. I feel like all of this stuff is pretty appropriate, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:34:08 What you mean? Like the way they're sizing it and stuff. The strokes, come on, bro. Like the strokes, young thug. Let me see the third, the second headliner for the last day. The XX. I feel like they haven't been big for a minute, right? Well, yeah, a lot of these are older bands for sure.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Yeah. But a lot of older bands might still be, like, gigantic. Alex G's lit as fuck. I think a lot of times they go with, like, ticket sales, like hard ticket sales. Yeah. Like, they go by your hard ticket sales. Like, if you're doing like hard ticket concerts or whatever. That's what they go off.
Starting point is 00:34:35 But I don't know. Rollout, those bills are pretty fucking dried. Maybe they're going to be homeboys up there all morning. I feel like they just got to get a better space. Like the space seems janky as fuck at rolling loud, you know? I mean, I've been to them all over the country. Ain't janky? Wasn't they just?
Starting point is 00:34:49 No, no. The way they have it set up, though, I feel like for a multi-day festival, you kind of want to be comfortable. You know, you don't want to be around all this concrete and stuff. You want to be able to chill, sit down. To be fair, like the Rolling Loud that I went to in Miami was such a miserable stadium festival experience that it made me in Miami. I am never going to go to another Rolling Loud ever.
Starting point is 00:35:11 At all? No matter where it said. That Miami experience was such dog shit that every single time anybody's asked me about going to another Ronald Loud since then, I have pretty much just laughed. Like that was really it for me. And also like that was the last unproductive content trip that I did. We went out to Miami for Ron Loud. I think the best thing that we got was like a scryla interview for like 10 minutes but since then we did Chicago we did Toronto we did New York all these trips getting like multiple great pieces of content whereas when we're at rolling loud we didn't get anything so many rolling out you sent to lifetime probably less than 10 I guess they don't even perform what do you mean like
Starting point is 00:35:52 none of those when I went in my eye I didn't see a single artist perform I was backstage all the time just trying to get interviews but even if you were watching the show you wouldn't see a single artists perform. They just literally play their songs and like every once in a while yell or ad lib over on top of it. Playboy party came out and just screamed. It is the most joyless experience on earth from my perspective. Like I it makes me hate hip hop. It makes me hate America in some way. Like I really, the experience in Miami was so bad that I will never even be tempted. I will never get FOMO again. Every single one of you guys could go and hang out with future. I don't care. I'm glad I'll stay home.
Starting point is 00:36:30 You'd be tight. I mean that. I mean that. Everything besides that, I would be cool with it. Is that the rolling out? Codec got locked up at? Man, I've been to so many. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I was out the one in Miami that code I got locked up in maybe 2019, maybe I think. I'll say this at the most recent one, which like Cardi headlined in L.A., like Cardi, despite him not actually performing, it's for sure like a whole experience watching him, but seeing
Starting point is 00:36:57 Paiso Pluma perform with a live band in contrast to all these people just rapping like every once, it was such a huge thing like, wow, that organic feeling of actual instruments live you can't really top that. And like, I'm not personally trying to, I go to the Coachella because hell yeah, there's a lot
Starting point is 00:37:14 of actual musicians and people performing and there's some dope rap shit to turn up to. I watch sexy red and then fucking, you feel me the next day, I can see the strokes. That's fired. I hear this criticism a lot, though, of rap concerts versus live concerts. And I feel like at rap concerts, what you get, though, is more so like moments, like Little Yachty coming out at Rolling Loud, that intro.
Starting point is 00:37:34 But they do that at rock concerts too. They'll bring out some, oh, here's the singer of Slayer and he's going to do this song with this band, et cetera. It's just that like when you go to see a rapper live, like honestly, the NBA young boy kind of impressed me. He was probably singing like 70, 80% of his lyrics. Yes, he had a backing track, but he clearly cared about delivering the majority of the vocals. It's also pretty easy to be NBA young boy performing live because.
Starting point is 00:37:59 you have like an entire stadium full of people that know all the words to your shit. But I respected it. He had the background dancers. He had shit going on on stage, etc. That being said, like, if you've been exposed to other types of music, like, you just can't compare a rapper going on stage and rapping over his pre-recorded songs. So seeing like Slayer. And you've got four people playing instruments in unison and the singer. And it's like, if any of them fucks up at any moment,
Starting point is 00:38:29 this thing is fucked up and they're so dialed they're so on point that they go on stage and just shred and the whole fucking audience loses their mind i'm sorry like as much as i like listening to hip-hop more than i like listening to rock but i can't even put almost any rapper in the same category as what like a good rock also who y'all think is the best rap performer recently it's gonna and he's about to do another one night only in l a yeah yeah performed with a live man he had guitarist and stuff he had dancers he had set design smoke a giant head of his I mean, we got to be realistic. Is Gunner a rapper, though?
Starting point is 00:39:03 Yeah. Yeah. Like, I don't turn shit should be confusing me, bro. Hear me out, though. This is my point, though. At festivals, I think it's harder for rappers to really get their art out there. But when you go to, like, a Kendrick concert, when you go to a Gunner concert, any of these guys' concerts where they have their production teams, it, it usually surprises you. I don't know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:21 Because I saw it. Because Kendrick's concert, that shit belongs in the Louvre. From his last big album, what was it? Mr. Moran. Oh, where he had the Diamond Crown from Tiffany's. All that shit. I'm not surprised to hear that. Honestly,
Starting point is 00:39:32 even his alter ego, even seeing Drake live is unbelievably impressive. The way he's, he's got like a hundred fucking hits. He's sprinting back and forth on the stage the whole time. I mean, seeing Drake blew my mind. That's definitely one of the best artists I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I believe that about Kendrake. I think it's like that with a lot of artists. Like I hear the live music versus, you know, rap music. I agree live music's amazing. I'm sure there's some kind of backing track. But when you see these guys do their thing, like,
Starting point is 00:39:59 and Drake performance. Yeah. Yeah, but what do he be doing? With the fake smoke, with the bullet holes. I mean, this was before that, but yeah, I mean, I've seen Drake a few times over the years. It's always, like, super impressive to me. He just puts a lot more of himself into his performance.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Then, like, you know, I love Gucci. Gucci, to me is his upper edge long rappers all the time. Terrible performance. You want to go see Gucci Man performance? Terrible performance. No. Trust me, I know, yes. He just rocks back and forth with one finger.
Starting point is 00:40:24 And I love Wop, but Wop is a terrible performance. You know? But he's too rich. He's been doing it for too long. And this is the problem is that what you do when you're playing in the 500-person venue, you get on stage, you rap along your song, you barely got room to move, you walk back and forth, the crowd goes crazy, that's cool. All of a sudden, you're in front of 50,000 people.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I mean, you can't just do the same thing and expect for it to work, but most rappers just get used to that. So that's just kind of all the baby. I think there's a clear answer, though, to best performer of all time. Who's your pick? Do Drake dance? The best performer, the best performer of all times, It's Buster Rhymes.
Starting point is 00:41:00 And it's not even closed. By a significant margin. Another good person that y'all could see live is currency. He always performs with a live. I was going to name him. Anybody who doesn't have a backing track and just wraps her outside the whole time, that is hugely impressive. So y'all just talking about hip-hop and R&B,
Starting point is 00:41:16 because I think R&B, they better performers. But y'all, y'all just talking about hip-hop right now, right? Yeah, just rappers. Yeah. I see Nip and, um, um, Schoolboy, Q. So you said a little bit of shit. I saw him like at a show at Dreamwin in Malibu. He has a lot of different switches in his songs that you wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Now we're getting deep down the rabbit hole. Yay shit. You say, you say, Buster Ryan. I hear a lot of people say, what's the name was like that DMX? Oh, DMX is insane. All right, you know what? Yeah, DMX at Woodstock 99 in front of 90,000 people. That is the biggest crowd that any rapper is ever going to rock.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Hey. On the thing about Buster, though, like, the correlation between him and his hype man split star, like they got it like a routine. Now, Red and Memphis, Red and Memphis is up there too. Like, when Red and Mephy are in key and on point, like, the way they play off each other and feed off each other, like, this shit can get magical.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I always wish, like, imagine if, like, Chief Keith and Lil Reese had that intuition when it first came out. Be crazy. To Adam's point earlier about rock and comparing that to hip-hop, DMX is one of the only people that I've seen be able to keep that standard. Like, he was all over the stage. was climbing on top of the speakers. He's damn here hanging from the rafters in the place.
Starting point is 00:42:30 He's coming in the crowd. He's yelling at us. DMX will have 50,000 people praying with him. That's power. You know what I'm saying? Like, when he's on stage and he prays and everybody is quiet and praying with him, like that's smoking crack and getting 50,000 people to pray with you
Starting point is 00:42:44 is pretty hardcore. So tight. That's like they're all on crack too. They're buying what you're putting out there. They're essentially on the crack as well. But DMX, but DMX, they said like sudden rappers, he had. that caten and like had that type of voice like that commanding cadence to where he can command
Starting point is 00:43:01 like a crowd like that get out there like chana prayer and like you know have he was like three hours late because we saw him after Coachella he drove to Anaheim I guess and the crowd is still everybody's there nobody left he came and immediately turned up hey he didn't make the crowd cry with his prayers he didn't cry with him he'll pray for us before we go home I almost had a DMX battle booked it was so close to happening bro I I'm tripping are you Buster Ron he got to have some good hype me because He rap so fast, like he's running out of breath. Yeah, he's split start.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Like, you could tell they practice and they got that master. Like, whatever, whenever Buster comes off the bar, Spliff comes on in the bar. And, yeah, no, it's magical. I think Bustereram's on testosterone, so he's able to wrap on a good mother, right? For sure. And he's got the power of the tribal tattoos all over his body as well, which I think. In that big ass change.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Biggest Cuban in the game. Yeah. The chat is saying Travis Scott, I've seen Travis Scott a few times. He's pretty wild, but I feel like I don't know if that's crazy energy. Definitely it's the most. Those hats. I don't know if it's a performance. Once you get to a certain level, it just feels like you can't just phone it in.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Like the Gucci main performance that we're talking about, once you get to the point that you're playing in 10, 20,000 people, I mean, not. Yeah, that ain't going to walk. Wap never left the Chittling Circuit. You know, Wap, Wap was going into all them little country towns and them little clubs where it's 30 people on stage with you and you got to stay in one spot. He never transitioned from that. Wap, another person that ain't talking to Thug. Oh, you want to call me soft? I'm going to ignore you for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Hey, y'all didn't see that when that nigga Gucci fired on somebody on stage. Oh, the girl? When he was performing, he fired on that ball. Yeah, yeah. What was her name? I heard her talking about suing him nowadays. Oh, she had a name?
Starting point is 00:44:35 Her name was, I can't remember. That was like his ex-girlfriend that he was like trying to put on as a rapper. And then she was getting on stage being all up in his space, so he just back and punched her. And then there was an interview clip of her outside the venue just talking right after he beat the fuck out of her.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Years ago, I know she ain't talking about suing now. That's that. No, I think I saw her. clip of her acting like she's going to sue now. The Afro man move. I don't even know about that. What Afro do? Afro man.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Apro man slap some girl off stage. He alive. Yeah, Abro. I'm not bad. Man. I'm fucked it up. Oh, you get him mixed up with, bro. Da, da, da, da, da, da.
Starting point is 00:45:13 He could still be alive. I can say long live him. Yeah, keep on living. Keep on living. I'm about to say anything. He was dead. Nah, it's because his homie died. The fucking, um, fuck.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Little Sody. Right. He was always with him. You gotta have a very, very hip, like a hip-hop encyclopedia to know that Afriman's homie's actual name. That's dope, bro. Little Sody, kind of, I like, you. Not that you're kind of like you.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I interviewed him. Yeah, Afro-K. Okay, because, you know, we just knew the one song from where I'm- interviewed SOTE probably like a year before he passed, and there was all that drama. Remember there were people with young thug backstage and shit like, or no, excuse me, young buck. And, to be fair, Afro-Man did have two songs.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Really? What are the other songs? Palmdale is a banger. What's it called? Palmdale. Hey, we never heard it. It didn't make it. It didn't reach.
Starting point is 00:46:00 It didn't reach. Palmdale reached. You know what I'm telling the truth. It didn't reach. Because I got how it was a vibe. No, most definitely. But he got his own little co-following. I ain't gonna even lie.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I think that was last year. I went to his birthday. Like the co-following, like the motherfuckers he had in there or this shit. That shit was crazy. I'm like, man, what the fuck? But you know, a lot of them older artists, you know, they may not be on a major scale, but like, in their areas and stuff like that, they still killing. You know what I mean? We got a ton of them in it, like, at Young L.A. still moving around.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Wait a second. Hold on. After what happened with the whole duct tape mafia, they're still allowing him. I thought he got ran about the city. Crazy story. I was on stage in Atlanta and arena. You think we're like not hit for something? I think we're like the other day, like less than a year, well, a year ago when we did the
Starting point is 00:46:43 Woody thing, I was on stage at Drusky's shit with Young Drow and Young L.A. on stage. They were together. That's crazy. No, young L.A. just had a resurgence, bro. And why are you think that Allie boy beating him up would make it so that he couldn't have a career. I don't know. I said,
Starting point is 00:46:56 the actual video that got his ass work was at my event. I recorded it when he was talking about the duck on my face ain't going nowhere. He'd tell me, sent it to world style. And it was on Worldstein. They ended up, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:06 ended up, you know. I interviewed Young L.A. and talked all about that, all that shit. No, but he's still moving around crazy. He wasn't there?
Starting point is 00:47:11 R. He was just all over the Metro album, wasn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so you feel me?
Starting point is 00:47:18 You had trouble with super tripping on him. See, Lush, I always want to, like, prematurely canceled somebody. I didn't want to, no. You got a piece of a whole thing. Yeah, your career. So what happened was, Young Alley, he was on his interview with,
Starting point is 00:47:30 he was on an interview with Boss Talk, and, you know, he's doing a young L.A. and he's like, pocket extra sloppy and just tripping, and the clip goes viral, and A. And A.N.A. has a whole resurgence. Young L.A. is getting booked like crazy. The song is amazing. You know, it's a great song. Young Droll on the remix.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Yeah. Chopper, make you do them by Crane. Joe is definitely one of the most underrated artists. Oh, my God, what's that one dro song? Dro. I'm cleaning this bitch. Now I'm gonna shoulder leaning this bitch. He's still on the pole on right now.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Draw on the radio. Dro is actually, I would say, I would say, Drew is a better lyricist than TIA. Yes. He got to call the holy ghost. He's smoother. He's not better. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:12 He's more. He's more crazy. He's not a better lyricist. Man, y'all are crazy. I'm trying to tell you, bro. You ain't heard dro. I heard. I heard, Joe.
Starting point is 00:48:21 You don't what I said? If you hear dro's actual, man, listen. 100% drill is, like, as far as bars go, for sure. Like, if you're,
Starting point is 00:48:28 like, analyzing it from a battle rap perspective, young dro, way, quote, unquote, nicer than T.I. But you know,
Starting point is 00:48:34 people are a better songwriter. T.I. More technical, don't you. No, for sure. T. T. Technical,
Starting point is 00:48:40 define technical. Technical. More words. Like, you weren't born yesterday, Lutz. You know what? Take out.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Ludac is more technical than T. You know exactly how T. Okay. He's more technical than Drowe. He's not. Joe has what. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:48:54 I don't think Joe a better lyricist. He's not a better lyricist. Hold on. Hold on. He rhymes fucking lima-thine six with fucking primatee miss. He was banging, then he fizzled out, but like a better lyricist, like, I don't know. Bro. Dro was not as consistent as TI, bro.
Starting point is 00:49:11 You know, Joe be having some real-life shit going on, you know what I'm saying? So, Joe will take four, five years off. But if you really, like, think and listen to what he's talking about, bro, like, you You got understand. He only had that first big album, and then he fizzled out. Like I say, he was inconsistent because of his real life. But if you really hear Droh, like we hear Dros, because a lot of these records might not hit out here. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:31 Can you drink tropical, we ma'am away and we'm a way, are you serious? Creamy, goddamn, freeze me. No, no, young drones. I want to go back to it. I'm not a lot of it. He's a better, he's a better, he's a better lyricist when it comes to bars than T. T.I. But now, T.
Starting point is 00:49:47 T.I. is a better songwriter. For sure. comes to make actual conceptual records. Tip got here. Yeah, yeah. Tip knows how to craft entire concept album. But if you want to put a beat on,
Starting point is 00:49:58 if you wasn't put a beat on. Just bar for bar? Boy, I'm telling you, bro, get on the nigga ass quick. That's why he was a part of they shit because he was when a kid, because he could rap super good. He was to a grand hustle what four eyes was to fucking burn him out.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Like for me, like I fuck with Joe first album. Like I said, like Tokyo Diamonds all that. Man. Like he was hard, but like this is what I'm saying. After that, you didn't hear no more dro to where you consistently hearing T.I. Like back to back. So it was like, I'm like better lyrics.
Starting point is 00:50:27 It's like, I don't heard too much T.I like the. No, no, for sure. For sure. Like, you know, what's the two says? See, I was king of the south for you. Come on now. Young dro was tight, but he don't have no less get away. He don't have no chilling with my bitch.
Starting point is 00:50:39 He don't have no. I'm talking about straight balls. Right. Exactly. There's a difference between records and Mars. But I got Justin Timberlake singing in the church. That's a great. That's a great song.
Starting point is 00:50:48 And I'm not taking nothing away from the king. It's a great song. We're talking about when a nigger get the rapping. Man, Drow one of the ones. I'm trying to tell you. I had the pleasure of, uh, I had the pleasure of sitting at the trap kitchen. Well, first we got a tour of the hip-hop museum,
Starting point is 00:51:04 the trap museum from Youngdrow while we were in Atlanta. And then we had the pleasure of sitting on the porch at the, the, the, the cafe right next to the, the trap museum. And the amount of people going up to Young Drow, the whole time they were sitting there was honestly kind of insane. Like his level of fame has not diminished even slightly since his peak. That being said,
Starting point is 00:51:26 T.I made all these fucking huge records to me. It's like, yes, Young Joe was a stylist and lyrically obviously had a lot to go on. But, I mean, in terms of like the better rapper, like the bigger rapper, I mean, it's TI all. No, better rapper and bigger rapper are not mutually exclusive. And as we said, more technical.
Starting point is 00:51:45 T. Y'all again, no. I mean, if I'm a car smart of the better rapper. I'm going by, I ain't going by style of swag rapping and shit. Okay. Who got the better songs like, because I rap. So when I'm listening to this shit, like, if I'm going to say you the better rapper, it's because you lyrically better. I think Joe got me.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I think young Joe's like, I think. Joe got him. I'm going to say you a better song. It's like, oh, no, because just like when you make comparisons to other rappers, like great, you'll be like, no, these both greats, but, you know, he nor to make a song versus this, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, Drake is a bigger artist than Kendry. But I think Kendrick is a better rapper.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Yeah, because he made better songs. Drake made better songs. Yeah, for sure. Drake is a better musician. Right, he's a better artist. A better overall artist. Tip is a better musician. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:52:31 But lyrically, yes. That motherfucker's a bitch, boy, that droplet. I think it only take you to know that because you're from Atlanta. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I say. A lot of these records don't make out of him. You hear music that we don't hear. You know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Hip-Hop fans, like this is not a crazy, like, this is not a crazy left field. theory for we get it you have a iconoclastic take no but it's okay if you remember when when you when break went out to Atlanta the main thing that like I was like not jealous at all that you guys went without at all like I didn't didn't care in this like I was totally fine I did not cry in bed the whole time I did yeah I didn't left out at all but when I heard that young drill was involved I got a little bit of fomo. I was very vocal about said FOMO
Starting point is 00:53:20 Because from a lyrical perspective Young dro is that guy guy Period Okay can I suggest we do a little segment At this point in the podcast Actually before we do that Can you click over to the thing? I just want to send a big big shout out
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Starting point is 00:54:29 I just want to throw that out there. Anyway, my idea for another segment, I want to do a moment to get to know Tam. Obviously, we got to know you on the stream, but I feel like we should we should all be the best versions of ourselves, men, and we should open our hearts and our minds, and we should get to know Tam. So, Tam, how you've been?
Starting point is 00:54:54 I've been cool. I just came back from Puerto Rico. It was awesome. What are you doing out there? Chilling, I've been walking around. Nice. Yeah, I'm a history person, so I like to check things out. Your first time out there?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Yeah. Did you go with a dude friend? No, no. Solo trip. I've never been on a vacation. If any of y'all in the chat, you got some money on you. What the We gotta go to the chat, baby
Starting point is 00:55:16 Come on No, I'm sorry, go ahead When you got to grow in a leash When you go on a solo Vacation though What kind of timing are you on Just check out the historical landmarks Are you going out to a club?
Starting point is 00:55:32 Not really because clubs In a foreign place By yourself as a lady is a kidnap vibe You know? I should know that Yeah, so you just got to keep it My bait? You think so?
Starting point is 00:55:57 My bait? It was a lot of light. It was loud. Mike could have been this one of my like. Could they hear that, you think? They did hear it for a little bit at least. All right.
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Starting point is 00:56:23 I think that's big. Yeah. A lot of girls are just out here willy-nilly. Hey, kidnap me. You can't have a idealistic view of the world. You have to see it how it is right now. And you will get taken and sold into the sex trade or some shit. You was in San Juan?
Starting point is 00:56:35 He was in like Dorado. No, San Juan. Oh, no. Going around. Were you, um, did you meet anybody out there? So are you just, would you say you're kind of like a solo, dolo type of person? Like you enjoy just doing stuff on your own.
Starting point is 00:56:46 You don't need, you don't need company? Not necessarily. I went out there because my aunt. She has a house, so I stayed over there. Oh, nice. And then I went to the resort, obviously, because it's easier. Like, go to the beach, go eat all of that. There were some drag queens at brunch.
Starting point is 00:56:59 That was cool. Oh, wow. Yeah. Wow, I know some people who would be very interested in that. Do you know? I don't want to say his name on here, but shout out to the homie. Jack like Jess. Woo!
Starting point is 00:57:09 You would have loved to be there, yeah. I don't want to say his name, but. I don't want to be messy, bratt. He's like, no, I like real trans bitches. I don't want no drag queen. Drag queen. The thing that, Tam, I felt like, definitely stood out during the competition. I forget how you were eliminated, but I know you made it really far.
Starting point is 00:57:30 But I felt like when you were on the news the other day, when we were, like, having political conversations, and you were offering a lot of insight when it came to, especially dismantling some of the really far-right-leaning talking points that some of our other cast members. Yeah, but why were you agreeing with Ralphie and Evil when they were saying, like, oh, yeah, if you say, see a black pilot, he might have got the finesse into the, it's not that they got the finesse. I understand how racism works in our country. And because of that, everybody knows that. I think people try to be idealistic. But we still have the first black person doing shit today.
Starting point is 00:58:03 They'll announce it on the news. So let's be for real. When you see a black person that's doing well in an obscure thing, you know, you've never seen a black pilot. You never seen a black doctor or some shit like that. You wonder immediately, my God, how did they get out of where they came from? In 2020. In 2020, I haven't seen black people.
Starting point is 00:58:20 That statement is what Charlie Kirk is being called like a horrible Nazi for saying. No, Charlie Kirk is saying you don't deserve it. I'm saying that as a black person, when you see it, you're like, damn, they beat hell of awe. It's how did they get here? It's like Ralphie said. It's not, I'm not Hayden. I just have questions. So what you're saying? Like if you see a black pilot, he finessed his way there?
Starting point is 00:58:38 No, not that he finessed his way. He beat all of the odds to get that opportunity. He went to school. He figured out how to get the money. He figured out how to get the interview, get the job, beat out all the other people. Because I'm sure there was a lot of odds. Okay. So let's pick from a smaller group of people because if we were to go to Harvard,
Starting point is 00:58:54 and I hate to say this, but if we were to go to Harvard and we were to pick the average Asian student and then the average black student, the average Asian student is going to have a higher IQ and probably perform better on tests because of the fact that we all know that because of affirmative action basically makes it so that it's harder to get into Harvard if you're Asian and easier to get into Harvard if you're black. No, they just fucked that up. He said, obviously you still have to be an elite top 1% person to make it into Harvard. But still, that's what these programs do is basically make it easier for people who are from minority backgrounds to get into prestigious universities. But you know why? They do that because of the industry of discrimination and racism in our country.
Starting point is 00:59:37 But also too. I'm not saying it's not justified. I'm just saying that is the scenario. And the Asian food, Harvard and fucked up affirmative action for everybody. I don't think you want to say things, though, like have a higher eye. IQ or anything like that. I think even when you talk about the type of testing that they do to get in Harvard, these kids are trained to take these tests.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Some kids spend more time taking the test so they do better on the test. But when you're at a place like Harvard, there's an Instagram account. There's Black at Harvard. There's also a guy that does the interviews of the kids at Harvard. They talk about their SAT scores, their GPAs to get in, their extracurriculars. All that shit's stupid impressive. Like I'm pretty sure if you would average out everybody on video or that you were I'm sure it's super impressive, but if there was no affirmative action, if there was no DEI,
Starting point is 01:00:22 then Harvard would be 100% Jewish and Asian. Well, here's a thing. Really Chinese too, primarily. It's really difficult to conflate those statistics. Nah, don't believe it. It's really difficult to complain those statistics when there's genuinely not enough data. There's so many more Asian students in comparison to the amount of black students. So, Adam, would you think, do you think, would you think it would be 100%?
Starting point is 01:00:43 With that data, you could push back against what he's saying with that small group of data. grouping of it. If someone has a counter argument, I'm open to it. It's just I've never heard anybody argue with what I just said. No, no, it's the fact of is it, would it be 100% Jewish and white because of the actual intelligence level? Or are you saying because of their selection? I think because of the fact that those parents in particular are basically like grooming their kids to be able to go somewhere like Harvard from birth. And there are significantly less black children who have that. experience in America. Also, a lot of the Ivy League schools prioritize legacy. And most black people's parents didn't go to Harvard, didn't go to Yale, so you have even tougher junkiness. That's no, that's what it is. And you could be a slow, um, white person with a good family. Yeah, if you don't want to let a person in because his granddaddy didn't, you know, go here. I totally understand that that's selection.
Starting point is 01:01:35 But the fact the matter is if this person is talking about this person's not intelligent and this person is, if that's the case, then I would, and then the money element as well. I would argue that. I would argue that. Harvard. Social stuff. And in 2025, maybe I'm tweaking, but I feel like I see a lot of black people in prestigious, you know, positions. And I think black kids are being groomed to go to these Ivy League schools. Maybe not at the number, like you're saying.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Maybe it's less. But I'd wager to say that I think it's pretty much about even right now with the data sets. Because you got a lot of kids that are the first ones to go to college. What's the percentage of DEI students allowed at Harvard, first of all, before we really discuss it. I don't know. That's why I'm pushing back against this because I feel like it's just a, a private. The auction point that's been around with all the DEI shit, affirmative action. I think, like...
Starting point is 01:02:20 You're talking about a private institution. If you're talking about a state university, like UCLA or something like that, that's a different conversation. You know what I mean? Like, this is a private, like, Harvey League. Ivy League, suppose. Yeah, it's completely different. And also, I would argue that if you're black and able to make it past that and are part of the slim percentage that is getting, quote, unquote, allocated for DEI, you got to be the cream of the cream of the cream of the you feel I mean yeah I could definitely be biased here
Starting point is 01:02:47 but I would think that a black man to make it from you know impoverous situations to get to an Ivy league school that doesn't have a legacy and doesn't have the preregreens of courses or wasn't groomed for that that makes it there is probably overqualified okay but I just want to throw this other I looked up the details so I wouldn't get it wrong but basically like the in 2023 it was a Supreme Court ruling that prohibits considering race explicitly as one of the factors in admissions, aka they banned formal affirmative action based on race. And as a result, Harvard's black percentage went from 18% to 14%. So all I'm saying is that affirmative action basically exists to make sure that there is a
Starting point is 01:03:31 more balanced racial breakdown at these universities. And the argument in favor of that would be even if you think like, oh, this should just be entirely performance base, the argument would be like, well, if you leave college and you haven't spent time being around the variety of different cultures and races, like let's say that Harvard really was 100% Chinese. I mean, you'd be leaving Harvard with like way less of an idea of how to function in society because you haven't been around anybody besides Chinese people. UCLA's like 70% Asian probably.
Starting point is 01:04:00 But also too, going from 18% to 14% of the population is African American. So I feel like that's just representing what we see in society. Like that seems fair to me. And maybe that extra 4% was just Harvard wanting to see more. giving chances to people, so you have that blended social group. I just think if in the first year there's a 4% drop, then that means that whatever they were doing beforehand was very useful in terms of getting more black people into Harvard.
Starting point is 01:04:26 That 4% was the athletes, bro. Is the NIL money? It was that NIL money? I'll tell you what. I'm going to Harvard. Harvard are a huge athlete. No. Prince has their sneak game.
Starting point is 01:04:42 I don't know about the other ones. I ain't got a football. I think Princeton's only one with the football. I know they got a basketball team. All those, all those schools, no matter what. Private schools are. Look, for example, look at Stanford. How it's Stanford competes and is a D-1 school when it comes to sports.
Starting point is 01:04:58 They're like, obviously, they're what originally was Pack 10, but aren't the same standards of an Ivy League school. They're just as hard to get into as an Ivy League school. So they said Flip Phone is a D-E-I-hire. They said that how to do it. And Donald Trump's America. Still getting it in, baby. Hey, hold on.
Starting point is 01:05:13 They try to keep me out and I just keep getting in. So Stanford, like, on the level of Ivy League school? It is academically, for sure. Yeah, I wanted to go to Stanford for real, but go Bears, baby. Hey, the cold part, and that's crazy because the cold part I just found out the other day that USC, that's like a private, it's a private and what's the name is public, UCLA. UCLA's, yeah. It's just like you just look at, just like even where the places where they're at,
Starting point is 01:05:40 you would think they both would be private if anything. I ain't know. I ain't know that UCLA was public. It's still hella hard to get into both of them to the point where like that's why, like I was saying, there's such a, at all UCs, you went to a UC, you went to Berkeley, right? Yeah. Like, that shit is how many agents were there? Like, that's the majority of the students, right?
Starting point is 01:05:56 Yeah. The whole entire UCs is. Also foreign, too. People don't talk about that. They just be getting so much money. I think that shit. I was at UC Irvine. I was at Berkeley.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Berkeley? Okay, he was up there in the Bay. That's one thing I've heard, too, is that like, programs like affirmative action were like, like intended to get more black Americans going to prestigious American universities, but then you end up where they just be important hell of Nigerians and people straight from Africa. So it ends up not really, like the whole idea of affirmative action is kind of like, hey, slavery was super fucked up. Let's do something to try to offset the impact that still is with us from slavery and, you know, before the civil rights and everything. And so it's kind of sinister to be
Starting point is 01:06:38 like, nah, fuck it. Let's just get a bunch of Nigerian. We got a bunch of upper class Nigerians that immigrated here in the 80s and maybe late 70s and they take the spots that African Americans should have and they were not oppressed in their country and they allow that because they're apolitical. They come here and they're grateful. They're not going to come and start a black student union or protest on your campus or demand things because they're happy to be here. But I still think that the FBI came and visited him when he was in school. I still think though like the strong survived though. You know what I'm saying? I might have a capitalistic mindset. If you smart enough to go in this bitch, you need to be in this bitch. You get in here.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Got them care your ass and other shit. No, exactly. So, like, even on the flip side. Don't give me no handouts, like on the flip side, because she writes, because she write about what she's saying,
Starting point is 01:07:18 but on the flip side, like you said, that's how I'll be thinking, like, on both sides. Like, it'd be a lot of opportunity that we have here because we have here, we be offset and don't take, you feel me,
Starting point is 01:07:27 and they come right over here with the mindset because third war country or, you know what I'm saying, the struggle they come from off the back. Yeah, and I'm not going to lie, and to a degree, you do be oppressed over here too because, like,
Starting point is 01:07:40 with these 7-11, and certain things, you'd be seeing, like, Indians and certain people. You know, it's certain grants that people don't even know about that they come right over here and get, and we, as citizens over here, don't even have these grants. But you got to think about it, like, that's what anybody going to another location. A lot of times, like, you know, if I would talk to somebody from L.A., they may see this as, you know, a treacherous place.
Starting point is 01:08:03 This shit, look beautiful to me, you know what I'm saying? I don't see it's treacherous. You know what I hear people talk or whatever, and, like, you know, certain individuals, If you're from that land, you may not see the, you may not see the, yeah, you know what I'm saying? You may not see the opportunities, these opportunities or whatever, but somebody that comes in that didn't have less, you know, didn't have that opportunity comes in as like, yo, y'all, y'all motherfuckers tripping, this money falling from the ceiling, you know what I'm man, let's get it. So, you know, I think that may be the situation with the Nigerians coming over, like,
Starting point is 01:08:30 yo, they may have a different level of, you know, of, you know, of impoverished beginnings. I think foreigners just work harder, period. And they may start it with less so they can appreciate the opportunities that is here. And it's like, you know, I've had that thought many times in my life when you like see somebody who's a first generation American
Starting point is 01:08:49 or they're an immigrant and you realize like they love American consumerism so much. They think that it is the coolest fucking thing in the world to have a Gucci sweatsuit, whatever. And I'm looking at myself like, oh, like my family been in this country for mad generations.
Starting point is 01:09:07 And I don't give a fuck. because I'm just like used to shit and my parents were used to shit they weren't like you know thinking there's a big deal that kind of stuff but the stereotype of my coming to America there's some like truth to it like people come here
Starting point is 01:09:19 from other places and they see the gold and they see the shiny shit and they are just like I want that and I'm willing to work 80 hours a week until I can get that. I think Nipsey Hustle and his brother work as hard as they did because of their background. That's a good point. No for real because I like I would think
Starting point is 01:09:34 I was too cool to be with a table on sloths of Crenshaw selling socks, but that was getting it in off that. You feel me? The same way that, like, a lot of people you know or people that I know could have bought a 7-Eleven and just, you want to work 80 hours a week
Starting point is 01:09:50 in the 7-Eleven, you can make a good living, but like most Americans don't really want to, so lottery tickets at 7-Eleven fucking 10 hours a day, you know? I'm glad you said Americans because that's the point. It's that we separate ourselves inside the country as black and white, this and that, but outside they just see us all as Americans. I never felt
Starting point is 01:10:08 American until I left and we do view opportunities differently. We look at shit from a middle class point of view. Like, oh, if I don't got a nice house, a decent car and shit like that, well, then I am struggling. Whereas a person from a poor country comes over here in the projects is nice as fuck to them. And they'll turn up in the project. They'll make sure all their kids go to college.
Starting point is 01:10:25 They'll start a business. They'll do it. We're living there and we feel like that's destitution. Like, we're struggling. We hate it. Yeah. For the same opportunity that somebody's complaining about there's a person that would pray for that opportunity and take it and run with it.
Starting point is 01:10:38 And you can't be mad at them when they do that. No, that's just like, I don't even lie because it's like, like I even look at that, like, even just like even being locked up, right? Like, I remember like when I was locked up, right? So you have people that didn't have nothing, like, you know, relying on moms, you know, relying on whoever they had called the house, you know what I'm saying, to try to get some money. But they didn't want to go in the kitchen and go work.
Starting point is 01:11:03 No, for real, you have people that look like, what, I ain't about to go work in the kitchen. But you got, you got the pie. is in there out hustling, you know, the whole yard and everybody to work you don't want to do they doing. But it's like, why you don't even want to do the work, like if you ain't got the bread, but you know, you're going to call moms or try to call somebody and put that burden on them and had them send you some money when you can, you know, I'm saying, hustle and get it yourself, you know what I'm saying, all everything.
Starting point is 01:11:25 And that's why Anne Hefe in hearing that good iceberg fit. He's got the shoes, the shirt, I don't know about the fence, but he got that good iceberg fit, man. I'm trying to get an iceberg pack by there. episode. F.A? Mr. F. A. I bought a hash in the projects one time in Morocco.
Starting point is 01:11:45 That was my experience in Africa. It was pretty late. I'm not going to lie. Why are you going to the projects of Africa Lush? As with the skin tone. I needed some hash. Looking for a new OG. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:55 I was trying to draw up. Oh, no. If I was really a cultural interpreter later like that, I go to North Sentinel Island off the coast of India, but just only like no human contact for the past 150. years. You could there and only there, you could be the OJ.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Yeah, exactly. Bro, what do you, when you start a new civilization? Any white person that's come within
Starting point is 01:12:18 30 miles gets fucking chipped by fucking arrows, dog. Yes, the man in a boat, the white men in a boat. You tried to bring them treats.
Starting point is 01:12:25 They were fucking with it, dog. There's something else. Just as far as the segment I was trying to do before, Tim, what's wrong with the dudes out here? What's,
Starting point is 01:12:34 what's keeping you from, are you a person who wants to be in a relationship? You're saying that the dudes are kind of weak out here. I don't know if it's because y'all sad. If y'all broke, if y'all have PTSD from dating hos, I don't know what's going on with the men.
Starting point is 01:12:50 But, you know, I try to keep it. Follow her on Twitter. You'll get a better understanding. I try to keep it in the casual. What, you can tripping on Twitter? Oh, I'm honest on Twitter. What's up with Twitter? Are you a part of the black Twitter, I guess?
Starting point is 01:13:00 Fill us in. Yeah. What, are you getting real problematic on there? I don't be problematic on Twitter. I only got bullied one time. That was after the. people died at the Travis Cothin. They attacked me viciously.
Starting point is 01:13:11 What did you say? Because I said, The blood is on his hands. No. The blood is on practice jacked. I don't know that people died or whatever. And I woke up and I said, if we're not going to get the new Travis album
Starting point is 01:13:21 because y'all niggas can't control y'all talking about the concert, I'm going to be annoyed because I've seen how they act at after a world. That is basically what happened too. That's what happened. You didn't put an awful long time. You're a killer. You deserve to die. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:13:32 It went crazy. So, you know, you just turn it off. So don't believe in online bullying. It's not real. What, like, what was your last boyfriend or two like? Like, because I mean, I'm going to be real. Like right here, you're pulling from a certain sample of a type of dudes.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Not to say that everybody's here is exactly the same, but, you know, it's a certain type of dude. Are you chilling with lawyers and doctors? I don't know. What kind of guys could win your time over? Okay. Okay. Recently, recently, I had a failed talking stage with a surgeon.
Starting point is 01:14:00 That was cool. It was great. It gave great anatomy. And then my favorite person, a computer, engineer that was also a Marine. I like a strict man. Okay. But he had a little PTSD out, so he out of the game out.
Starting point is 01:14:12 He was getting weird. He would wake up screaming in the middle of the night? He was just, he was listening to Eminem? No worse. He was listening to, like, scary rock music. Yeah, heavy metal. Really? So you can't be with a guy that listens to Slayer?
Starting point is 01:14:25 It wasn't Slayer. It was like, it was Seever. What? Yeah, he was listening to Seater. He was listening to, um, do y'all know who? Oh, fuck, I can't think of the name, but they're weird. They're like rap rock people. They paint their faces.
Starting point is 01:14:38 They have a whole sub-community. Yeah, yeah, twisted. Like, like, ICP. Yeah, insane loud posse, right? I thought I was going a little deeper in the weeks with a twisted reference. Is he a strange man, yes. I feel like you were talking to a white guy. I have not dated a white man yet because of the historical implications, but I'm not against it in this time period.
Starting point is 01:15:01 So you're open to it because you feel like black men have failed you. I don't want to say that. Oh, that's controversial. Can't do it. It's crazy. You're trying to throw out. Don't say it around me. Nobody.
Starting point is 01:15:13 I would never say that on this platform. There you go. There you go. Black men try to get you on an involuntary sister wife situation. That's why I'm. That's crazy. You don't think polygamy makes sense? You know, like when you got, he got three side chicks and you and a baby mama and that.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Is that just black man though in this point in time? I don't know. I said I haven't. Polymerous. Everybody's just out here. Everybody's polyamorous. But economically, but economically doesn't, but economically. But economically.
Starting point is 01:15:36 doesn't polygamy make sense, especially to the black community? You'll see how they say. I'm not talking emotionally. I'm not, I'm not talking logistically. I'm just saying don't just put it on us. I'm saying just don't put it on us. And that was a stereotype though.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Give it to everybody. Yeah, don't just put that on us. I'm just kind of. Adam's Mr. fucking sister wife. With all his wife's friends. But I also, I'm a guy who I cannot imagine cheating on my girl or having a side chick ever. I'm just, I'm not real like that.
Starting point is 01:16:04 What we're talking about is great, but also, I'm not. I just, I don't have the emotional capability to give a fuck about two bitches at once. I can fuck another girl. Right. Yeah. But the idea of even having to be nice to her after, that's just not me. I think we're talking about the extracurricular pun.
Starting point is 01:16:20 I think that's what we're focusing. Now, he wants to have a whole colony of different lives. Well, well, if you're talking about economically, if your rent is $2,500, her rent is $2,500, we save $5,000 a month just by being together. That's $60,000 a year. And then we could take that $60,000 and buy a piece of real estate or a business. Economically, not emotionally, economically, yeah, polygamy makes sense. Freaky roommates.
Starting point is 01:16:44 If you pay $2,000. That's what I call that. That ain't love. Freaky roommates. Because if you really are doing it for the religious reasons, polyamory polygamy, this and that, like the Muslims, you're supposed to have a separate house, separate house, all these, the sheiks. They hold it down for their five wives.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Give them time. I believe that if a man is going to have, a man should have as many women as he can afford. If you can't afford that shit, leave that shit alone. But if this man is able to protect and provide for two women, what's the problem with us saving $60,000? See, now they're calling me a bed winch in the chat. What's the problem? You're scared you're under the arms of the white man.
Starting point is 01:17:16 This is crazy, guys. I'm horrified at this shit and he's saying, y'all hear that? Do you get mean once you're in a relationship? No. I'm pretty too. You're pretty nice. You're pretty sweet because, like, from me, that's why I was a little surprised when you said that you're having a hard time
Starting point is 01:17:29 getting a guy to take you to Puerto Rico. Because from my perspective, you're of the age that, settling down probably seems pretty good. You are an attractive woman, I feel comfortable saying. Shout out to you, Adam. You got a cool personality, nice personality. I can imagine guys, like,
Starting point is 01:17:45 actually fucking with you enough that they would be able to respect you. So I'm a little surprised to hear that, but I understand also, like, you probably got your defenses up because you've dealt with so much fuck shit from so many men trying to make you part of their hair on. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Oh, no. Hey, bro. Tim, you ain't looking for a provider? Hold on. I don't say provider. I don't want to say provider because a man's supposed to be revived, but you're looking for a sponsor. I feel like when you look for that,
Starting point is 01:18:17 you get put in the whole position. There you go. No, no, no, no. You put words in my mouth or you just throwing it out there? No, I'm saying I feel like when you look for that, you put yourself in the whole position because now I'm out needy. Like, I want somebody to do this. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:18:27 But I get the notation. You're looking for a sponsor. No. No. If I was looking for a sponsor, like that, I feel like that's easy to do. I could date an old me. No, no, no, no. You'd be like the other shorty.
Starting point is 01:18:38 No, it's your young niggas with money. Which would be old man. I feel like a young nigga with money. Same thing, Pollyamory. Okay, but that doesn't have to be a bad thing, though. It's just your preference. You know, if you want to be put up, you want to be put up. You could say that.
Starting point is 01:18:48 That could be a part of your preference. Like, he's saying you could be traumatized. I'm saying maybe you could have, you know, too many options. But I know a lot of girls who lead with, I need a guy who's going to pay my rent and take care of my car note and all this type of shit. And damn doesn't seem like that. Like, to a certain extent.
Starting point is 01:19:04 I understand how a woman could feel like she deserves that kind of treatment. But if you start with that, yeah, you are putting yourself in a very, very weird position. And that bitch, she's share. Hey, Tam, you go a miss your blessing passing on the nigga with the best buy uniform. I'm telling you. Munchy, that is your ministry. You stay saying that for years and years since I've known you, and I just can't do it. Because I don't work at Best Buy.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Wait, Munchy works at Best Buy? No, what's going on here? No, that's his ministry. You should find real love with somebody that's bro. For real. If he worked at Best Buy, he still have a chance. No, no, no, no, not me. That's just his opinion.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Like, you will find real love with somebody that works. And it's like, niggas that work at Best Buy also cheese. Hey, the plasma screen is over there, Blunt. And I got to pay for the food. And I got to pay for the food. No, hell no, no. You can work the Best Buy and pay for the food. What's you're talking about?
Starting point is 01:19:54 It's crazy. No, no, no. I used to date her home girl. I feel like that's why he had this. But I'm saying, you have missed your blessing because it'd be good guys, bro. and I'm telling you. Munchy's on his cabin Samuels. You saying that you used to date her homegirl
Starting point is 01:20:11 makes me question where she's coming from. No offense. No, no, no, no. Where she comes from or what type of females I deal with? Because y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all stir up. All the above. I'm just, hold on. Let's be honest. She seems very, like, elite, like, would not fuck with the kind of guys
Starting point is 01:20:25 who would be a host on no jump or no offense to everybody here. But I feel like she's shooting for, like, a different level of professionalism. I feel like you're trying. Leading a surgeon was kind of. But hasn't there been multiple female? He's been on a jumper too? He's that one. Nobody on no jumper has ever been qualified to be a surgeon.
Starting point is 01:20:41 But like, I feel like, I feel like Munchy's, uh, Munchy's reach extends pretty far when it comes to the ladies, because we've had multiple female hosts that have had affiliation. With Munchy. Well, no, no, if we're being honest, like, I believe that Munchy is a talented Dick Smith. Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. No, Ricky, you, you broke up my mother, actually.
Starting point is 01:21:04 She's a celebrity chef. Yeah. Yeah. On multiple businesses in Atlanta. I know about him. We was talking that day. He was like, yeah, I used to be sneaking in the ops. And I was like, all right, you know, talking to the homie is like, yeah, Munchy used to date my sister.
Starting point is 01:21:14 I was like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's lying at the twas chatties. He got some emotion out of it.
Starting point is 01:21:22 He collects Pongued cards. Yeah. There's a certain type of college girl. They like to date a thug. They like to hear muchy stories. They like to be, you know, protected around him. He's got a secret stories that none of us have heard. Maybe I have.
Starting point is 01:21:34 I don't know. There ain't no secret. I'm trying to get Munchy real drunk and hear the real stories. I don't think it's, hey, hey. That's not paused. Buzzball Munchy. Not that kind. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Long as it ain't Jalik drunk. Jalik. Jalik. Jalik. That ain't drunk. I'm pretty sure. Did she admit she was on perks? That's what that was?
Starting point is 01:21:55 I don't know. I'm just still trying to figure it out. I think it was an Adderall, the alcohol concoction. Ooh. Adderal is keeping her level enough to continue to consume. So she kept on. drinking and drinking and eventually
Starting point is 01:22:06 that drink starts talking for you and you feel me it is what it is because in the Adderall will still keep you coherent. Don't ask me how I know anything about this. Hey, I got some drunk moments on November but I don't think I was working with that. I think she topped me. She blew me out of the water for sure.
Starting point is 01:22:23 She topped you? She topped you, huh? No, not that type of cause. Whoa. We ain't going to put no allegation because she cuckoo-go-old enough to do some content and say, I like. No, no, no. No, no, no. Yeah, we don't need no. She outdid me. Okay, who was lucky enough to see Charlemagne versus Dame Dash? I did.
Starting point is 01:22:38 I was just watching that too. One of the most exhilarating podcasts I've probably ever seen in my entire life. The first thing I want to say, two people who have a lot in common, Dame Dash and Brandon. Because they both really, really want you to stop interrupting them. Let me finish. I didn't finish. While simultaneously over talking. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:00 And not holding themselves to the same standards. that they hold everybody else to when it comes to interrupting. Damn, Das verbally abused that man. Yeah, he went right to calling him gay as soon as he wasn't getting his way in the combo. Told him, you run. Like, if I punch you right now, I don't believe you're going to do nothing.
Starting point is 01:23:18 I was crazy. Do we feel like Dame Dash has lost his OG status by the antics online the past couple years? I think it's just his behavior in general for the last 20 years. Real, you kind of expects that type of stuff from Dame Dash because he's been doing it for years. But at a certain time, I feel like he was more respected.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Like, people would kind of let it go or they would kind of let him punk them or something a little bit. Yeah, I think he just lost the status, like, as far as his paper. Like, he happened. Yes. Back then now, you see him in the blogs he's going through, if this is for real that he's going bankrupt and don't got no money, because, you know, some people, not saying him,
Starting point is 01:23:49 because I don't know what's business, but some people, you know, file, file these claims chapters to get out of lawsuits or all type of shit. Hey, and don't you think that shit kind of sad, bro? Like, you got to understand, like, J.Z. Kanye would not be here without this man's contributions to hip-hop. Yeah. And then, like, you know, he's, he's having a low, a low vibrational argument, you know, with hosts or whatever.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Don't forget camera. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? That's why that's not sad, though. It's not sad. You don't think it's sad? Like, I just, I guess I just don't like the way that we don't. They forget. Like, yeah, like, they forget, like, who put them in position.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Like, we don't, we don't hold our OGs close to our heart. Bro, look at the way that Dame Dash acts, though. And all the people that have gotten away from him have been on some business shit. Like, I'm not going to lie. This interview was funny. It was a little entertaining. I was like, all right, this is the best I've seen Dame Dash in a while. His whole Godfather bit, everything, controlling the flow of the whole interview.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Bringing his homie on. It was dope. But, like, come on, bro. The way that Dame Dash acts, I couldn't imagine that being my business partner. No, I told. Jay and day out. Jay, he couldn't imagine it either. Think about the deals he had to do.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Adam couldn't even last two pods with him. All the shit. One Mike. One mic. What he didn't think about what he ruined with his mouthpeed, bro. Yeah, but you got to also think about the deals that he made with that same mouthpiece. He was the person that was cussing out Leah R. Cohen, you know, behind the, you got himself blackballed out the music in the show. Right. You know what we're up a couple hundred M's? You think I'm going to still be dealing with this shit?
Starting point is 01:25:12 Like, all right, we friends, but you just be over there. Even Cam said, sometimes I got to just lead Dame over there. Let's properly, let's properly contextualize, though, because you're making a lot of solid points, but let's not forget what happened when Jay and B were on vacation. And this fool went in, what did he do? He went back to Harlem. He went back to his hood. And he signed Cam and put fucking Cam. as the VP of Rockafin. He got flat for that for putting a brother in position. That was one of 10,000 things that he did that made Jay-Z said, I can't work with this. And he's lucky because Jay-Z is the one guy
Starting point is 01:25:45 who does something very different than whatever you know, J-Z never, you know J-Mber hose does, which is you leave your spot, you get booted out of your spot. Jay-Z booted his ass out of the spot, and he never really even gave us the full story. He always been pretty much wrong about it. Dame Dash has done a million fucking interviews talking crazy about J-Z. J-Z never clap back.
Starting point is 01:26:01 He's been doing one. wasn't going to been doing the last few weeks for like 20 years. Well, what Ted said, though, she felt like he lost the little OG status because when he was yelling and barking, he was in a position of power. Yes. He was pushing their doors. He was getting on the ass about them jackets, them death jam jackets.
Starting point is 01:26:18 But now, you know what I mean? He seemed like he disgruntled. That's the difference. Like, but he feels, he feels like people were like, when I interviewed him, he felt like, he would interview him? Yeah, yeah. He said that Jay Z ran off with 10 birds. He felt like, that's what he felt like.
Starting point is 01:26:30 He felt like everybody came. got what they got to get and then hauled ass. That's how you felt. Right, right, right. That's hard to use. You know what I'm saying? No, because, because Jay-Z did fake him out. But, like, again, this is what you got to understand.
Starting point is 01:26:43 That's just like me and you business partners. Right. And, like, me and you, we got an understanding, but I might not see out of eye with your best friend that you grew up with. And you just bring him in and put him in in a position of our partnership. And I come back and I see this and you don't tell me this. Of course, I'm a trip. So what Jay-Z did. 100%.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Jay Z just, you know what I'm saying, got with them people. Like, hey, look, they bond us out of Rockefeller. This show percentage. I'm getting my percentage. And I'm gone. But the whole time, Jay Z was still in business with them. And let them say, let them take a percentage. And I'm like, look, it's this now, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:27:16 First of all, Jay did respond immediately on a song called Hobie Baby. He didn't do a million interviews, you feel me? He said what he had to do on that record. Hovee Baby. What did he say? I think the only person heard that song. I know the song, but I don't remember the song about James. He has a television, boys, though.
Starting point is 01:27:31 He has helladay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You remember what he said? Yeah, the whole verse, the whole piece home, the global phone, the number one rap recorder is back in order. He's basically talking about, in my absence, you all get absent-minded.
Starting point is 01:27:46 He's talking about when I was gone. He's not only talking about, you think he's talking about the fans in his between albums or forgetting about him. No, he's talking about when I was gone, you feel me, you're making crazy moves behind my back. Now it's time to remind him while I'm in the position that I am.
Starting point is 01:28:01 I was saying a million times I never Because I was still this homie Because I was still this homie Because I was still this homie And it was his business partner Anybody that was tapped in He knew what the fuck he was saying
Starting point is 01:28:14 Whether that bar is about him or not like Rappers need to get to the point Bro What about Losswood? Yeah Yes no no But he's why he has his Mischie has his mistake bro
Starting point is 01:28:25 Is like he's a real fucking boss One guy's actual boss He puts him in the music He does talk about it on a loss Slick player shit. The other guy is going on podcast every other week saying I'm a boss. My house is bigger than yours. And I'm not, I'm not defending.
Starting point is 01:28:37 I'm not defending. But can you blame a man that put like literally 10 millionaires together, right? They got them out the wood, put them up to the position where now they're thriving. And nobody answers the phone or nobody picks up for him. Like, you don't think that. Would you feel that way? What do he keep saying today? What do he keep saying today?
Starting point is 01:28:56 But there's reasons, though, behind that, though. It ain't like, I can see if you just did. Now, that's different. Like you have some situations like that where you hear people like, man, he just got some money and I don't know what I did. Like, see, what the fuck I do? Like, man, he just stopped answering the phone.
Starting point is 01:29:08 But, said, it was shit. Like, they, like I said, but it was cool to be with Dane when you was broke, but now you up and nobody wanna fuck with it. Because he's a dick. But nobody did for you, you was happy, right? Like, okay, people were willing to kind of talk ways. Dame didn't make.
Starting point is 01:29:24 People were willing to tolerate Dame Dash when they were at the bottom and Damedas was up here. and then lo and behold, once Dame Dash is down here, and they're not even like up like that, but they're just like even doing I in life. Yeah, they don't want anything to do with them. Want to know why?
Starting point is 01:29:39 Because Dame Dash is one of the most intolerable dickheads who has ever walked the face of the planet. That character that he's playing in that Charlotte Man interview, that's him. That's not that different than the way he is off camera. And I'm going to be real with you. How you know? I've spent a bunch of time around him.
Starting point is 01:29:57 He's a cunt. He is the worst. You don't talk with Dane. When Dame comes, you just, you just say hello and let them talk. I did three episodes of a podcast with Dame Dash, and by the end of it, I like, I knew, it was the kind of thing where I knew that it was an advantageous thing for my career, that if I kept doing this show with him, that it would be good. This is like a good connection to, like, the core of hip-hop,
Starting point is 01:30:21 because at that time, I'm still kind of like the SoundCloud rap guy. I'm thinking, if I really stay the course and keep doing this podcast with Dame, it's going to be really good. it's going to solidify me in this podcast space, et cetera. My body was telling me not to go. Like, it was like my, my logical brain knew it was a good idea.
Starting point is 01:30:40 And my being, every fiber of my being couldn't bring myself to drive to his studio because he sucks to be around so bad. And I'm going to be real with you. Me and Dame Dash have quite a bit in common. Number one, we're both dickheads. We both communicate as like assholes to a certain extent. And I'm not oblivious to that.
Starting point is 01:31:00 The thing is, is that I think I was probably in my, like, early teenage years when I realized that the way to win an argument is not to just call the other person stupid. Right. And in that interview, I'm seeing Charlemagne sort of lay out pretty basic, obvious narratives like the stuff with 50. Hey, 50 said that he bought the rights to paid in full. This is a very, like, heavily reported narrative. We've all heard about this.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Dame Dash's reaction is not to, like, tell him why. that's not true. It's to call him an idiot to insult the entire profession. The breakfast club is one of the biggest podcast, radio shows, etc. He's insulting the whole nature of the hard work that went into it.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Charlemann, you've sat here in the corner for 15 years basically denigrating the entire his entire life's work and it was just, to me, it was just embarrassing like, damn. He said, Wendy Williams, your big home. Yeah, but let's be real, though. Who's in a, who's in a better position?
Starting point is 01:31:56 He definitely deflected everything. Who's in a better? always shown love to Wendy Williams. He's always acknowledged the role that she played in his career. Him even saying that was total. No, but the word, big hummies, the word. Yeah, yeah, because it's funny to call the old lady. He said that that's your OG the whole time that he brought his OG on. Because his OG, I don't know why they let him on campus.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Who's in a better position? Who's in a better position, though? Charlemagne or Dame Dash? Let's be real. Charlemagne's killing us. I like how Charlemagne was faking like he was broke. I was like, yeah, he's up. He's up. Charlemagne just realizing that it's tacky for him to sit there and say, well,
Starting point is 01:32:28 actually I'm the founder of the Black Effect Network. Actually, I have the Flagrin podcast, which is huge in the comedy space. I have the breakfast club. I have all these different things. Like, it's corny to sit there and lift off your accomplishments because he doesn't have to. Because everybody watching that show knows that Charlemagne is one of the most influential and important people in hip-hop meetings. He's sitting there with his books behind him. And guess what?
Starting point is 01:32:48 You know people, they were cheering when he was getting on Charlaman because Charlemagne's so much of an asshole. They're waiting on him. That's the other part of it as well. That is true. His asshole, too, though. This is the guy that made love. He's the assholes of people go at each other. Does Charlemagne be way more of a dick than he's been in years?
Starting point is 01:33:05 But hold on. When Dan Dafts, he's getting on him, I was smiling. I ain't a lot. How long was the interview? Because I think I probably only seen. Like a hour. Oh, yeah, because I was saying like when he was just getting on him and then at, like at one point, he was like, man, look, I'm about to leave.
Starting point is 01:33:18 And they're like, man, what you mean? He tried to leave a couple times. He definitely sounds like a person that's scoring, though. He's a whole, his whole shit to really get at Charleneham. battered wife. No, he got some mental health shit going on. His main insult to Charlemagne was your gay, which is like you're obviously not going to win this argument.
Starting point is 01:33:33 You obviously don't want to talk about the money. He didn't want to play any of that shit on air. He was like, and then Charlomaine says what? Like, what's wrong with being gay? You got a problem with gay people? No, I think gay people should be honest, though.
Starting point is 01:33:43 I think they should be straight up about it. That was a good rebuttal, though. Charlemagne has been married to the same woman for like 30 years or some shit. That doesn't mean you're not gay. His only problem in his relationship was that he was cheating on her with other women. Nobody has ever really, like, claim the Charlotte man was gay. You can say that his demeanor maybe is a little, I don't know, like he's a little soft-spoken.
Starting point is 01:34:01 I mean, but not really. Not soft-spoken. That's kind of like. You got feminine ways. I think I didn't know how to phrase what that accusation would be. I don't agree with that. Charlemagne don't fuck with me. I ain't talked to him in forever.
Starting point is 01:34:11 But I just feel like Dane made a fool of him. He steals my content. I think he hates white people. No, he probably just don't really like. You don't hate white people. I think the strongest point though, that was made that Charlie means historically been an asshole. Like, look what he did to, to Lil' Mama. You feel me, made her cry.
Starting point is 01:34:27 No, straight abusive. But he ditched that character after he got canceled. Yeah. Yeah. He started getting money. He started making a self-help type of money. And money, the motherfuckers started being nice to get. You're like, okay, I got your motherfuckers on me.
Starting point is 01:34:37 And the world started to change and the Me Too movement started and everything. So all of a sudden, the fact that Charlemagne had this R-A-P-E case from back in the day that I don't think it was supposed to be him. I think it was his homies with a girl at a party and she was underage. Back in the day, some shit. Either way, like, that girl has, like, publicly spoken out against him. in recent years and stuff. I'm not even talking about all that.
Starting point is 01:34:58 But when that shit started to re-rise and I think he realized like, oh, being the asshole, the controversial guy who is going to sniff the seat and say fucked up shit to girls, et cetera, that character wasn't really going to last too well into the modern era.
Starting point is 01:35:12 So he ditched it. The closest thing I've seen in recent memory was him repeatedly telling Dame that he's broke. Well, he also... He was defending himself, though. Sniffing a seat cannot... He felt justified to going back to his old character there for a little. But he was...
Starting point is 01:35:25 He also, though, remember, felt the pressure because when Gucci was, like, popping that shit about Angelouye and he didn't really defend her and standoff business. She winds up eventually leaving the show, you feel me? So that on top of what Adam was already talking about. And leaving a lowkey claim an abusive work environment. Exactly. He didn't want to step on the clip, though. Let's be real. He didn't want to step on the clip.
Starting point is 01:35:47 But guess what? You didn't want to sit on the clip anymore. I don't know. Bro. Because Nelly passive aggressively, not marked them out. Monique. Bird, man. Leonard
Starting point is 01:35:57 Cochie Maine Coedac Black The group outside The station The station It wasn't that one person That wasn't that one person That had him
Starting point is 01:36:05 Run in inside That was four people Yeah Because he was giving him a hard time About that But I think it was a few episodes I think one dude popped up That he was just beefing
Starting point is 01:36:14 I know he's talking about They were trying to get on I know I'm trying to get on To promote their music That's what you do Hold in the camera Yeah
Starting point is 01:36:22 Give me a drop Yeah Like give me a drop I ain't saying Charlemagne is perfect or anything, but also, like, let's be real. A lot of rappers have came in the game and used beefing and drama to basically get in the news, establish themselves, get a fan base, et cetera, and then at some point they kind of revert to a version in themselves that's a little bit more polished, a little bit more of who they really are.
Starting point is 01:36:45 I think Charlemagne used that character until it wasn't really necessary for him anymore. Honestly, like a lot of that old stuff, him smelling fucking, what was it, Kiki Palmer's seat or some shit. That's funny as shit. It's funny as what, but in terms of him being, if he wants to interview Kamala Harris, you probably shouldn't be sniffing
Starting point is 01:37:03 some girl's seat a week before, you know. And then, and then, a lot of, he wanted to evolve. But, but,
Starting point is 01:37:08 but kind of think about it, the content creation lane right now or the climate, that's Wendy Williams. This, that she set the, yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Content creation. Everybody. Yep, everybody, reacting to things. Like, like hopping on TikTok saying your opinion about that. Yeah. You know that shit that it's Wendy Williams?
Starting point is 01:37:25 That's ironic that the Dame is trying to say he, you're, Wendy Williams is your OG. As a pure entertainer, Charlemann would be bigger if he still did all that edgy shit. But as far as the overall career that he's trying to create, I understand. He didn't want to. How old is Charlemagne, bro? He's in his 40s. 45, maybe. But you know what, though?
Starting point is 01:37:43 I would love to see Dame win, for real. Like, I could kind of root for him a little bit. Like, he's very entertaining. I wish he just was like a little bit more polished. You feel me? Because it was funny, like, you know, when you're just taking it for a joke, it was like, all right. I think the thing with Dame is he doesn't believe that anybody else has a brain but him
Starting point is 01:38:01 when he's in the room. He doesn't respect anybody. Like, no one else is smart. No one else matters. Hey, this is gospel. This is, you know, this is me. I don't like the job shame, bro. Talking about you wake up 4 o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Bro, what? He's a permanent job shamer. I don't like that, bro. And that's why I didn't like that because guess what everybody watching at home does. They get up before they want to get up and they go to a job that they probably don't really like and Dane Dash Charlemagne, they're part of the rare 5% of society or whatever who kind of gets to do what they want with their days. And, you know, it's just an ugly thing to be like, sometimes that money make people delusional. Like they forget, like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:38:36 They get a certain level of money and they forget like, bro, you was broke before too. And I used to do that, that little gimmick that he's doing there of being like, you're a worker. You don't know what it's like to own your shit or whatever. When I was younger, I used to say shit like that. And over time, I just realized that like, this is not really a way to win an argument. kind of, you're insulting almost everybody listening. I just would have to rob you. I just would have called me to, whenever back then you were tall that worker shit,
Starting point is 01:39:04 well, all right, watch what I'm out. Well, I might still bust out that argument if I got somebody from like a radio station who's talking crazy about me because a lot of times people will work at a big company and then they feel like they're better than you or on the same level as you just because you work at a big company. And it's like, bro, what you have done here is not,
Starting point is 01:39:23 quite the same as well. You take that, you take that station job away from them and they ain't got no voice. I want to see Dame win, but honestly, what the fuck is Dame done for decades? No, no, he gives game, bro.
Starting point is 01:39:32 I love people that give game. Like Nibc, Master P, 50 cent, uh, Dame Dash, they, they give game versus Jay Z.
Starting point is 01:39:41 He has talked shit about people, uh, putting money phones. No, you can't do that. No, you can't do that. You can't do that to Jay,
Starting point is 01:39:48 Joe. JZ don't give game to nobody. Yes, he does. Okay, hold on, hold on. He needs like publicly. Hold on,
Starting point is 01:39:52 Listen, bro. The whole thing you got with the halftime show. We could push some real. With the NFL thing. Bro, the same job was offered to Jemaine DePree. He came to Jay-Z as a mentor. Like, what should I do? He told him, don't take the job.
Starting point is 01:40:08 And then he went and got it. That's that real Machiavelli shit. No, no, I don't, bro, Jayzee. He's cut through a business. He said himself that Jay Z is a piece of shit when it comes to the end of the thing. All Jay Z. But he still is my favorite rapper.
Starting point is 01:40:21 He still gets a game. about his endeavors. And then he don't give game to nobody. Yes, he does, bro. All right, pull it up. The 4-44-4-4-4-1-the-morning. Put it up on. Or what you're talking about 4-44 in the morning and what else?
Starting point is 01:40:35 Like, shit, you could pull reels up and people that you name and, like, Nip look up to him because game that he's game. I'm asking directly about Jay-Z. Literally, literally, he talked about. Like Elliot Wilson. Okay. Okay. So, hold on.
Starting point is 01:40:49 Put a real-up. He could learn something from. Jay Z, but he got access to him. Jay Z talking about credit and building credit and ownership. On the 4-44 album was more, on the story of OJ's song, is more impactful than any advice that Dame Dash has given in the entirety of his failure-played career. Both y'all swinging between the extremes, bro. They both give game.
Starting point is 01:41:14 No, but I'm so like, like that. Game is bad game. What I'm saying, I can put up a sec. I'm not a lie, he does sound smart to a dumb man. But everybody, I'm saying, My name, I can give a recedes, even your Goddy, about real estate. If you go to the internet right now, I mean, if you go to Instagram right now, and you type in Jay on the reals, all the little game he'd be giving,
Starting point is 01:41:32 going to pop up seminars and all that shit. He's saying fly shit in the song or some games. No, him talking at seminars, him talking, giving games. Like, Elliot Wilson interviews and things like that. Like, same shit. You'll see Gotti, like, same shit. They got nip on, on there talking giving game. They got shit.
Starting point is 01:41:45 They got shit like that of Jay. I was just watching one other day. It's a game. It's a game. You can pull up on him. The one where he's sending by the flowers. I was sending it to us. You're sending my flowers.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Because, Nepsie, fucking MasterPee, 50 cent, Dame Dash, they give game. Y'all got it. Munchy, even if he put it in the music,
Starting point is 01:42:03 you're giving it to people, bro, he's been doing it for, I don't know how many years. What is it, a 30-year run at this point? Yeah, yeah. Giving you the game.
Starting point is 01:42:09 Like, Master P. To now, he's been giving you the blueprint of how to hustle at each level that he's been on. That's what makes Jay-Z great.
Starting point is 01:42:17 I want to hear about how to hustle on the street level. He said, I ain't trying to cold this. I want to hear about financial financial literacy and shit like that. He's literally the number one
Starting point is 01:42:25 life he's been at. He's not wrapped about this shit. He told you buy art, insure the shit, have them mark up the price, boost your network. Bro, he's been giving it to us.
Starting point is 01:42:36 I think he has a lot of the same points that Dame Dash makes I am a Dame Dash fan, but Jayzie, no shade, he kind of does the things that Dame Dash talks a lot about it. Is Dame Dash? Dane Dash has plenty of time
Starting point is 01:42:48 to do random interviews and talk about financial advice because he ain't got nothing going on. No, he's not a rapper. Not because he's not anything. What business has he got cracking, bro? He's supposed to be this. I'm not going to do that today.
Starting point is 01:42:59 I'm not going to do that today. He's not going to do that. That should be easy. A person that's not making music or on tour, they got more time to do interviews. Yeah. No, but it's not just that. He's attempted, look,
Starting point is 01:43:12 he's attempted to be involved in several different operations. We saw he had a whole, his version of Netflix, he had a whole hood Netflix. He tried. I'm very familiar. So is JT the bigger figure. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Guess what? Right. Don't forget who did he put on, bro. He put Kevin Hart in his first film, bro. Kevin Hart was already at most of that. What you've done for me lately? Hold on Kanye West wanted to, he wanted to rap. Jayzee just wanted to keep him as a producer.
Starting point is 01:43:38 He let him get in the booth, bro. You do not want to talk about who Jay Z has put on in this game. Bro, bro. I'm talking about Dave right now because you're trying to kick, bro. You know what I'm saying? No, we're not. I'm not trying to kick, bro.
Starting point is 01:43:51 That was lush. No, but what I'm... No, but what I'm saying is... What I'm saying is we're not... I don't like how Dame has played the victim. I don't like your personality. I don't like that either. I don't like that either.
Starting point is 01:44:02 But tell me where he's been successful. If he's going to be this business guru since Rockefeller, what has he done? Hey, paid and full is a... I don't need to look past that for me, culturally, everything. That was during Rockefeller. That was during Rockafeller. That was during... Well, let's just saying all the new stuff that he's done, like...
Starting point is 01:44:20 like Poppington and his diabetes company and different initiatives that he's tried to launch, the art museum or whatever that he owned the gallery. I'm going to be real. I'm going to be real. So, okay. Can't do it, guys. Come on.
Starting point is 01:44:32 If you want to be, if you really want to be something in business, you need to be able to work with other people. And that is the one thing that I am 100% share will always hold Dame Dash back until he gets on serious, or marry a successful bitch if y're your parents Jay Z and Dame Dash
Starting point is 01:44:51 he married to fucking Beyonce I think that part of his life is probably over I think he's he's walking with a limp he ain't pulling a hose no more and sorry he's married but all I'm saying is that nobody on the face of this planet wants to work with Dame Dash
Starting point is 01:45:06 because he is an intolerable human being to be around and that's why you'll see every few years there'll be this like moment where Kanye and Dame Dash will get together and they'll talk about how they're going to buy Karma loop or they're to do whatever. They just always had all these big pipe drinks.
Starting point is 01:45:22 They're very similar. They're good at sitting around pontificating about what they're going to do in the future. But even Kanye, he can't be around Dame for a long time. Yeah, but Kanye said he was going to break Benny Siegel off because he came up with the name. He's, he should break Benny. He should. So we're just keeping words. But Kanye's full of shit too, for sure.
Starting point is 01:45:39 But you know what else? Kanye is successful and he's had several successful endeavors since then beyond. Even with the whole, even having, being blackballed, which is the same shit that Dame is dealing with. Bro, real, Dane just looks like a bad business man. If he's broke and he's touched hundreds of millions of dollars and he doesn't have a portfolio that can lift him up through hard times, he's absolutely cooked.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Like, come on, bro. When you get to that level of money, it's very fucking simple to stay at that level of money. I'm going to be real with you. Like, you can watch that Breakfast Club interview and you can say that Dame Dash is so funny and so entertaining that he won that exchange. But if you look at it outside of the realm of, like,
Starting point is 01:46:14 who was more entertaining, Charleneyne sounds like a rational human being operating like an adult and Dame Dash is acting like a child no no no no
Starting point is 01:46:25 no no Charlemaine lost that exchange I mean I don't really understand yeah no that's the whole like he got made fun of he got roast no no no Dame fired his ass up
Starting point is 01:46:34 you know what I'm saying but if you look at if you look at the barbershop in the barbershop in the barbershop Dave won in the popular court of opinion
Starting point is 01:46:44 Charlemaine obviously Sensible individuals would say that Charlemagne shouldn't even been jousting with him. And, you know, the peanut gallery, like, hey, that nigga funny. I think Charleman got feminine ways. He might not be gay. He got feminine ways, bro. A little zeshy. That was an iconic piece of our content.
Starting point is 01:46:58 But this is James Jazz thing. Like, how, like, you, we, motherfuckers can't keep giving Dame jazz sympathy. Like, because you had the same opportunity. You don't think, look, this the thing. You was at the table. You had the same opportunities we had. Like, just because, like, it's like, you basically was feeding. feeding off Jay-Z and feeding off these other people
Starting point is 01:47:17 that keep complaining about where they're at and the money that they have and you had these same opportunities. You blew your money. You had a bag. You'm saying? You should invest it like these other people invested. But if you take Dame out of that situation,
Starting point is 01:47:29 out of that story, is there a Jay-Z? Is there a Kanye? Yeah. Is there a cam? Is there, you know what I'm saying? Like, what he's saying? We can have. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:47:37 But we can have removed what Dame did. No. They figured it out. This is what I'm saying. Like, right now, what he's doing is showing that he actually actually needed Jay Z and Jay Z and JZ didn't need him.
Starting point is 01:47:47 No, he had a vision. I got one question. Okay, make another home. Okay, make another hole. Make another hole. He had a vision and him and Hove came together. And then I think like after like being around
Starting point is 01:48:02 him and seeing the bullshit he was on, Jay Z, probably like, I can't tolerate this shit. I got to go. No, no, he's crazy to be around. But it's, huh? I got a question, bro. So they partners. So how, how is he?
Starting point is 01:48:15 less than because Jay Z went behind his back and made a deal. But that's not, but that's not what just... But that's mischaracterizing it. Okay, so this is how Jay Z looking at it. Are you saying like why Jay Z go behind his back? No, no, no, no, no. No, no.
Starting point is 01:48:27 No, Jay Z look, I'm talking about. Like overall, how was, how is Dame Das less than because they partners and Jay Z went behind his deal and went behind his back and made a deal? Because he wasn't able to continue. Jay Z sold Rockefeller and gave him his percentage and said, I'm taking my percentage. He just entirely that he was in bed with the people
Starting point is 01:48:43 just like, just like, Just like Dame Dashton tell him. Why wouldn't you tell your partner, though? That's the same way. That's not okay. This is the same way. Dame Daster tell him he was hiring Cam. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:48:53 He had to find out. That compared to that is minute. No, it's not. Because they were competing. Did Cam really even get a job? No, no, no, no. You signed my op. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Oh, there was ops? Yes. I mean, kind of. Wait, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Hey, Z wasn't ops with, what, what, what Cameron? No, you start acting funny. I got a hypothetical. Yes. You, let's say you're a lit rapper. Don't say a real op. No, I'm just saying, let's say you are a lit rapper. Picture like a younger version of you.
Starting point is 01:49:22 You're a lit rapper. You got a homie who's got some money. You guys come together. You start a label. You're huge. You're a fucking monster in L.A. You slowly start to realize this other fool ain't really bringing much to the table. And I hate him.
Starting point is 01:49:37 He's a dick. I don't like being around him. I don't like the shit that he says to people. I like the shit that he does to people. Wouldn't you, in your head, start kind of working on your plan of how you're, and you're splitting the money with him, and actually in this case, three ways,
Starting point is 01:49:51 but you're splitting the money as well. But also, you just really don't want to be around this motherfucker, never mind being in business with him. Wouldn't you start plotting on how you're going to get out of that situation? I'm going to come with an exit plan, but why would I not include him an exit plan? Because he sucks. Why would I not make him aware,
Starting point is 01:50:08 even though he's an asshole, he never did no backdoor shit? So why would I not make him aware? He did, though he signed his off. The question is like, y'all think that's a backdoor? He's not, no, Jay-Cis. I don't want to get money with you anymore.
Starting point is 01:50:20 If I don't get along with somebody and you sign them to what we got going on, that ain't no back-door shit? Super. When you're out of town. Once you're on the top of your success, no, I don't know. We can't hear you at all, sorry.
Starting point is 01:50:32 But you're at the top of your success and you go on vacation and they sign somebody that you explicitly do not get along with. To the label, basically to fuck with you. And not, not cool. that he did go, I guess, behind his back and go work with the parent company.
Starting point is 01:50:48 But hey, they hate you because of how you've been acting this whole time. Let's say, was he acting on behalf of Holes, though? Is that your opinion that, that, uh, Cameron and Jay Z like, they did not fuck with each other? Or that's fact. They did not fuck with, they, they didn't, they don't, they don't. It'd be like this. They're not ops, but they won't cool at that.
Starting point is 01:51:08 They definitely were not fans of each other at all. And once, once he was signed to Rockefeller, But Jay did do a remix for him at one point. Yeah, he hopped on the New York City song. And then Cameron, which to be fair, it's kind of like the olive branch that if Cameron had accepted it, they probably would have them been on good terms
Starting point is 01:51:24 and they probably would have made amazing music together and hopefully stayed on good terms. But instead, Cameron being a dickhead himself. He rejected it. Look at the 106. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:51:34 Adam. So you're missing something, right? Yeah. Do you know what you missing? That Cameron, I've been attempting to work with Jay Z and he kept like, Blase and him all.
Starting point is 01:51:43 Now I got a banger You want to hop on it You're missing that Do you know that? Yes I get that But also I get that Yeah that's like
Starting point is 01:51:52 That's how the game works Jay Z did that to everybody at that time Bigger than I did Well oh boy Jay Z didn't hop on my shit Because you've been blowing me off For however I've been trying to Hey let's hop on so
Starting point is 01:52:02 Oh yeah But this is after I got a banger now you want to hop on here But this is after he was already signed And Jay didn't want him to even be over there Like that to begin with This is Jay Jay's whole label.
Starting point is 01:52:13 Dame go back, get his homie from Harlem, who admittedly wasn't at the best point of his career at the time. He had just done the SDE album, which is an amazing body of work, but nobody actually fucking heard it.
Starting point is 01:52:26 Because he had a push. Right. But because he had lost his prior situation, so Dame wound up giving him an olive branch when Art of War you're supposed to destroy your enemies. Jay didn't want him getting that olive branch. That is a betrayal move. Imagine Adam goes on vacation.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Imagine Adam goes on vacation. Imagine Adam going. on vacation and Josh signs T. rel. You feel? And then he's back and T.Rell's the fucking vice president. Of no jumper. Yeah. It's a really good thing. It's a really good thing. It's not Adam and T.
Starting point is 01:52:56 rel. But it was like... Adam and Elliot Wilson. Adam and... What's his thing? Somebody that I low-key don't fuck with. Cam Capone. Cam Capone is now the vice president. He's cool. I like him. I'm just saying whoever. Somebody that there was weird energy with.
Starting point is 01:53:09 That I would not have okayed signs. But is it safe to say, though, that they both snaked each other out? For sure. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure. People don't hold the same accountability for Jay-Z that they do for Dane. I'm glad you brought it there. They don't say they don't give Jay-Z the same accountability for Dane.
Starting point is 01:53:26 They don't give J-Z the same type of shit that they give Dame dash. I'm not taking up for them. They both snaked each other out. But we're so low on Dame. And so, oh, Jay is untouchable. Because Dames made complaining about it for the last 30 years. King Javvy Jover just donated. said jay didn't have a problem with cam sign into the label it was over god damn it's over
Starting point is 01:53:44 and made being made the vice president yeah it was over the fact that he said that cameron was the vice president which that that is actually that is so much crazier than just signing it okay oh hey we signed t rel and now he's the vice president okay okay okay so so now that you said that he didn't he didn't come in as vice president right yeah yeah so so so he signed him i'm trying to figure out bro jay didn't like i said you got a piranha you got to a garden snake, bro. Jay did not want to sign him, bro. Jay did not want to sign him.
Starting point is 01:54:15 All you got to do. But the things I've been hearing was the vice president thing over the years. Look at the first episode of 106 in Park when they were making all these announcements and look at Jay Z's face. The look of disgust. And he did not even want to be in the same room. Okay. But that's on the man, bro.
Starting point is 01:54:30 He hated him. I'm saying he, he, he, hey, hold on, bro. He did some extreme betrayal. making deals behind my back versus signing somebody. Yeah. But if it's so much of a problem like that, why when he got signed, later on you want to get on a song with him?
Starting point is 01:54:50 That's not the only, but like you could see Jay gradually. Can you answer that? Jay doing that song, I took it as, all right, you're signed to the label. I may not have been a huge fan of you in the past, but you're signed to the label,
Starting point is 01:55:03 you got some hot records. I'm going to do this remix for you. Let's just put bygones and be gargones. Let's do this. You're here. Let's try to get past it. You're here. Let's make the best.
Starting point is 01:55:10 of it, I am the most egotistical fucking rapper on the face of the planet, but I'm still going to be willing to work with you, and Cameron was like, no. He didn't do that as a a favor. But Cameron's reason why he didn't use the verse was him just saying it was so whack that he didn't want to put it out. I'm sorry, if you're Cameron,
Starting point is 01:55:27 you want Jay-Z to put a whack verse on your shit because then you're going to look like you just outperformed against the best rapper on Earth. Oh, real death. Yeah. It was very competitive. I just think they both snakes, bro. They both snakes and, and
Starting point is 01:55:40 Everybody gives game about it, but Jay did the same. And that's what I'm saying. Okay, so in this game, like people like, like, like we judging poison against poison. Like, poison is poison. Like, all because this is a black mumba and this is a king cobra. Like, what's the difference is venom? I'm judging HIV versus herpes, bro. Herpes are so much, man.
Starting point is 01:56:02 Not as bad as HIV. HIV kills you. It's in a different class. Paran, and this nigga is garden snake when it comes to the backstaff. But it's more to it that even like, like, I don't know, you probably ain't a Jay fan. It's more to it. Like, if you listen to his songs, Jay put out there all his grievances, it was shit that Jay was telling him as a business partner like, hey, I'm not with this, don't do this.
Starting point is 01:56:24 And Dame was still doing it. So if we business partners and I'm like, hey, bro, I got a problem with this. Or I ain't cool with this. And you like, hey, man, fuck it. And you just keep pressing play on shit. What the fuck you expect me to do? Just keep staying there rocking out with you? Why does Jay Z have to be in?
Starting point is 01:56:39 business women for life. Why does he have to do that? What about the reason that guy? I'm saying the way he parted ways. Yeah. Somebody in the chat just said Jay Z built another label and Dame Dash can't build nothing.
Starting point is 01:56:50 That's the biggest management company in the history of hip-hop. And also too, Dave Dash went off on this whole tangent about how, you know, the masculine thing to do is stand up on your own too. Why have you been complaining about the same thing for the past 30 years? Hold on.
Starting point is 01:57:02 Hold on. That's what I was saying. Yeah, like people don't get Jay shit because Jay's not complaining about some shit that happened yesterday. He's not going to complain about. He has nothing to complain about. If this,
Starting point is 01:57:14 did we win or did we lose? If this person behind the scenes and this artist, his partners, it's easier for Jay Z to move on than this do and be successful. Munchy, okay, no, no, hold on. This is where he's right. This is where Munchy's right.
Starting point is 01:57:27 No, this is where Munchy's right. And the biggest thing that J's, the biggest advantage that JZ had was that Dane was out there being the bruiser. He was the bully. He was going to those names, being the asshole on Jay's behalf. Jay was able to pursue.
Starting point is 01:57:41 I agree with you on this point. This is the one point I agree with of yours right now. Because you're right. Because Jay was able to capitalize off of those relationships later that Dame had to tarnish in order to get Jay more leverage. Good cop, bad cop. Correct. Correct.
Starting point is 01:57:57 However, if you really are this Harlem hustler, savvy businessman, you would have had something else jerking in the past 20 years, even if there's a more difficult path of resistance. Well, I'll push back on that if you, If you were solid, when you're not trying to snake your man out or whatever, would you have something on the back burner if you really being solid? If I'm the CEO of a no jumper, right? And like, boom, and I'm, I'm bullying shit.
Starting point is 01:58:21 So everybody here could get some sponsorships or some shit on everything. But then they don't want to fuck with me because I've been bullying shit on y'all behalf. Now you beefing with everybody. Y'all got a relationship and now they ain't fucking with me. Come on, bro. How did that work? And they leave your ass like, I fuck much. He got them.
Starting point is 01:58:38 Oh, he got, he got people there. But why is Memphis Creek still around? But we missing, we're missing. Okay, yeah, Dame Dash did the bullying in the beginning. Oh, they be had. And Jay was the artist. So, okay, I brought the artistry and you're going to do your job. Right.
Starting point is 01:58:54 You know what I'm saying? To do what you did. So they was past that. They'd been past that. They was working each other. They had money. They, they, they paid. They stopped bullying, you're saying?
Starting point is 01:59:01 So what you said? No, no, no, listen, this is what I'm saying. They was past the bullying. Dane was past the bullying. they was comfortable. They had bread. Now we got bread. We're sitting up luxury.
Starting point is 01:59:12 We passed a bullying. Now we're on this business shit. Now I'm asking you not to make certain business deals that I don't agree with and you still press and play. That's just, that's, that's, the aggressive shit is in style of doing business.
Starting point is 01:59:25 But it also matter like what the position of the business is. Was Dame and J equal partners? Yeah, but that's just like, but that's just like, like for instance, but we come to get us in the door, but we're in the door,
Starting point is 01:59:37 why keep up the same thing? I understand. We already in the door. But check this out. Like, if this situation where, like, you had no jump and you and Adam have some kind of partnership, or whatever, if he's a majority owner of this motherfucker, God damn, he's going to bring whoever the fuck you want to bring in here, whether or not you like it or not.
Starting point is 01:59:49 You know what I mean? Like, that's just the real. But now, if y'all both put your bread up in this motherfucker and everybody, you put up a million, he put up a million and y'all equal partners, then, yeah, he's wrong. All right, let me ask you, I got to, let me ask you a question. So basically, you're saying that damed ass was the majority owner? From what I always saw I always thought that Dave was a nigga that was
Starting point is 02:00:10 One of three-way partnership Three-way was big Three-way Okay But let's just go Big side with Jay-Z though Jayzy was the artistic side Biggs and Danes
Starting point is 02:00:19 But let's just go Let's just go with your assumption That Dame Das was the majority So you the majority And I'm coming to you as a partner And I'm telling you that I got a problem With certain things you're doing
Starting point is 02:00:29 And you still like All right nigga I'm the majority I'm pressing the button anyway So what the fuck I do The thing I'm gonna do Is get away from me Yeah And you got all the product.
Starting point is 02:00:37 And you got all the product. I think everybody agreed to that. I'm just saying the way they party was backstabish. Yeah, but he also did a bunch of fuck shit to lead up to that too. Yeah, no, for sure. No, they both did. They took about a big, calculated businessman. But they drag, man.
Starting point is 02:00:55 They drag. That's a hose, bro. Chipping over a bix or some shit. It wasn't, it wasn't jazz that. That's light. A lot of shit is gone. And that's why people need to keep, when y'all in these rooms, talking amongst men and connecting business.
Starting point is 02:01:07 Keep women outside. They don't need to be there. That's why death row fell, nigga, and, uh, Jay, what's name, Dr. Drake got on. Nick, shit, fat ass, shouldn't a fuck with, what's her name with the squeaky voice? Yeah, Michelet.
Starting point is 02:01:19 He should have fucking Michelet. Uh, uh, he, uh, uh, dang dashed a left for Leah alone. Uh, uh, uh, uh, nigger, uh, uh, uh, Irv Gotti, nigga, nigga, man, leave Ashanti alone, let her sing. Like, bro, I'm fucking with these women,
Starting point is 02:01:32 nigga and mixing it together. It's fucking up the business. Especially when Nelly's been to just steal her eventually. Nick, that's the worst part. I agree, Manchi, because it makes things harder for women, too, when you try to work and be in a certain environment, everybody's trying to fuck you. I would just like, I would just like to say anything to go home.
Starting point is 02:01:48 No, just leave her outside, bro, because if she's got them to do with the business, why she here? Yeah. I would like that. Like a Shanty or like Lee or something like that, you should be able to work or get a feature. No, no, she was a part of the business. She was a singer.
Starting point is 02:02:01 No, she was part of the death row. She's part of the collective. Mishalay. But I'm saying, all my thing is, okay, let me rephrase that. Leave niggas bitches alone, bro. Like when it's coming to the shit because, man, man, come on, bro. Dame dash fly, you know Jay Z like a camel. And he took his, he took his, he took his bitch.
Starting point is 02:02:21 No, no, you think this is about much? No, no, he took it. Who was his bitch? Who? Alia. He ain't over here about that. I mean, that's what they say. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:02:30 And business, bro, man, nigs be falling out behind bras, bro. And they need to stop that. Yeah, that ain't happened. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's folklore. We don't know for sure if Jay Z was fucking with Lillian. I mean, it's history. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's there. No, no, no, no, no, it's stories told about this whole thing, like Jay Z was dead
Starting point is 02:02:48 in her first. Munchy, you just argued about me about, you just argue about a story that Woody told. What? Hold on, hold on, hold on. I know about Jay Z and Trale in Baltimore. Jay Z and Blue Cantrell. I'm talking about it was documented, so it's not documented that Jay Z was fucking with Lee at first?
Starting point is 02:03:05 I don't know if that's documented. You don't know that. I'm saying it's documents. Yes. There's rumors. Smiley said, no. What is a document? What is a document?
Starting point is 02:03:13 Yeah. What is documented? What's a document? About it, bro. Oh, fuck that. No, it's behind a bitch, bro. All right. Hey, if we're going to let chat GPT call the shots,
Starting point is 02:03:27 it basically says that JZ and Dame Das were both interested in Aaliyah and Aaliyah ended up choosing to be with Dame Dash, but there's no confirmation. that Jay Z and her slept together, dated, et cetera, and even Dame Dash in interviews has basically downplayed the idea
Starting point is 02:03:46 that they had any tension about her specifically. I chose up, though. They both had interest. And if she did choose Dame Dash over Jay-Z, for sure, I think Dame Dash would be the first one to tell us all about it. No, but I heard the interview, how she left with him at a party, and Jay-Z was hot.
Starting point is 02:04:02 Well, so Jay in turn goes on. Immediately after she died, Jay hopped on the missing you, by A Leah Remix and talked about how like sad dame was over it and like and how much he like he was supportive of his friend's relationship and he was supportive of their love and what they had going on but do you think do you think it's kind of snake like they hold would turn around and go do a two album collab album with his girlfriend you know his homeways girlfriend's ex-husband yes that is false that's where the snakes collide it's a whole bunch of snakes out hey but hold on
Starting point is 02:04:36 some vipers dame dash is in the video though he's in the video though he's How about I say? He's going to video dancing and his shit. Oh, he's going to dance, bro. Also, R. Kelly at that time, like, this is business, bro. This is just cold calculated. No, no, no, no. Just to switch it up.
Starting point is 02:04:49 He ain't got to be in the bed video dancing, bro. Just to switch this up a little bit. Does anyone seriously believe that Dame Dash is about to become the CEO of Revolt? No, no. I mean, that just... Did he get out of jail for him? No, they've been talking about that for years, though, because he's been intimately involved in, like, revolt,
Starting point is 02:05:06 and they've been having him in the... He was the first... I don't think you're going to embarrass himself and put that out there. But he was the first, like, one of the first public mouthpieces for revolt. And he had a main... Before we went live, the vote, the remote CEO just, you know, made a statement and said it was kept. Really? For sure.
Starting point is 02:05:20 Yeah, like, he made a statement. But I'm not surprised at this. That's a thing. Can we look that up? Yeah, that shit's on. Read it. I'm not. Please.
Starting point is 02:05:27 But I'm not surprised. He released his statement. He was like, no. No, dang, that's what the vived magazine article. He said that was totally possible. Wasn't Mark Cuban involved in, at one point. Like,
Starting point is 02:05:37 I mean, like, it's a lot deeper than Dame, but I do think that, yeah, it's on all the, it's on Ruffalo.
Starting point is 02:05:41 If you were the fuck, would you want Dane? Because I was going to come here to defend this shit out of Dame until I saw that. Oh, man. I got the link right here.
Starting point is 02:05:51 He's a good business, man, but he got fucked up communication skills. For sure. For sure. Wait. You see it?
Starting point is 02:05:58 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, right before we went live. I got to search Twitter. He's not going to because I doubt a nigga a lie like that. Man,
Starting point is 02:06:04 I saw that. I saw that, G. When I saw that one, I was like, boy. You sure it wasn't AI? I'm positive, brother. Let's see. It's on the major blog. Okay.
Starting point is 02:06:14 Lauren LaRosa, who is one of the Breakfast Club co-hosts. I trust her. She said, I like her. She said, I just spoke to a lead publicist at Revolt TV who confirmed to me. Dame Dash is not the chairman of the network. Also, she follows me. I'm going to follow her back. That's nice.
Starting point is 02:06:31 Let's see. Yeah, that was her most recent tweet 10 hours ago. And then the Revolt CEO comes on and does a statement as well. If you go on Revolt, I'm pulling it up right now. I like her as a... She's fire. A podcaster or whatever you want to call it, a radio personality. Well, she's a really good investigator, too, like her data collection.
Starting point is 02:06:54 She has good questions. She's professional. She's real poised. I like her. Yeah. For sure. She has good contacts for sure. So, okay, if that ends up not being true, then, I mean,
Starting point is 02:07:05 what the fuck was like that that negates like 15% of the words that came out of dame's mouth in that that shit was where here it goes right here we're both that's what i'm saying he's like clinging to things that aren't true like what is he done okay this is on the shade room revolt CEO confirms dame dash is not the chairman of company there is no acquisition path on the table this is basically a a message they wrote to the team saying i know some of you might have caught dame dash's interview on the breakfast club today to set the the record straight. Dame Dash is a hip-hop pioneer with a track record as a creator, yet we've been in conversations about potential partnerships, things like licensing and shows and
Starting point is 02:07:45 films for revolt, but there is no signed deal. He is not the chairman of our company. There is no acquisition path on the table. The quote from me and vibe is completely fabricated. I never said any of that. If anything, the major were happening, if anything that major were happening, you hear it directly from me, okay. So basically, yeah, that's, I mean, that's looking pretty embarrassing for him. I don't know why. You know, you don't want to count your chickens before they hatch. Like, if I had a big deal on the table, if I was going to be named the chairman of Vlad TV, I'm not.
Starting point is 02:08:20 I'm not like going to spill the beans before it's happened, you know, but like, you know, it's kind of a weird. Bro, look at the way that he announced it. He was like, I have a big announcement to me. Bro. I have a big announcement. There is no acquisition path on the table. That's kind of damning. That's like, there's no way that we're going to be able to make this happen.
Starting point is 02:08:40 The only before I saw that, you guys are saying I'm broke, but I could actually afford revolt. Yeah, before I saw that, I was going to come in here and argue for Dame full-hearted. When I saw it, I'm like, bro, you just capped out the whole world on the breakfast club. Like, bro, what you got going? Oh, you didn't happen for decades. Trying to try to try to be controversial. And I kind of think that's what I was going to kind of say, see, like me watching Revolt, like, vote do like a lot of small TV films and stuff like that.
Starting point is 02:09:09 Like they have like a little spinoff at a certain time where they premiere small films and premier documentaries and stuff like that. And I think that's probably what they kind of partner with him on. Like look, are you doing these documentaries and these small films? We're going to start premiering some of your shit. Let's talk. He's bringing America. He's got a network called America new and he probably just bringing it.
Starting point is 02:09:27 I'm kind of disappointed. I'm disappointed as hell. Sounds scummy. That he said. I sound scummy brother. And it wasn't what it was. Okay, you notice. Disappointed you guys.
Starting point is 02:09:36 There's multiple things in that interview. There's multiple things that he didn't want to talk about, like the idea of 50 creating a sequel to Paid and Full, which 50 already put a statement out on his Instagram, basically saying it takes a while to make a fucking movie. And yes, I am making the movie. And he basically is saying that Dame was lying about that. So here you have multiple things, like the broke thing and the paid and full thing
Starting point is 02:10:00 that he was able to basically like not talk about. Okay. So what is his source? By just saying some shit that apparently was not true. What is deadline? Deadline is like a very big industry trade for like movies and TV. And he said why I wasn't on deadline? So is it on there or is he wrong about that too?
Starting point is 02:10:16 I don't think 50's track record would prove that he actually is able to deliver projects. No, no, no. But 50 is a controller though, so I don't count it out. I believe that there's a possibility that 50's just not going to make that movie and he's just saying it and we all are going to believe it. And five years from now, we're going to be like, what the fuck happened to that? But also, if he wants to do it, he could get it done. He's taking on bigger projects than that.
Starting point is 02:10:37 For sure. For sure, he's a lot. But he's king troller. So I don't count it out that he was like bullshit. But I want to know, like, whatever this deadline shit is, I'm not, is it on there? No, I don't know. It's not on there. I don't read deadline.
Starting point is 02:10:54 Okay. They said it was not said, but they did a sequel to belly and they said it wasn't official. So what, so with Dame Dash acting like he got something to do with this thing that 50 doing with the new paid in four? or something. It's like he's disgruntled over him. Not that he's not going to do. Wait, Munchy, wasn't the, wasn't the the belly sequel, the one game did? Is that what you're talking about? Right. They said that wasn't official. Exactly. That was an unauthorized story. So that's what I'm saying. Like,
Starting point is 02:11:18 they could do sequels that's unauthorized. That game shit was was pay less. Correct. Yeah. I don't think you'd be able to just call it paid and full too. Well, keep in mind, paid and full. Like, I don't know what they... Belly to. But do they own the trademark to pay? Paytonful is a rock him song anyway, right? too. DMX talked about it on the interview before he passed away. I assume that I can't make a movie and call it Black Panther too. Like, I don't know legally. Like, it was just maybe I can, but I'm pretty sure I can't.
Starting point is 02:11:48 Well, oddly enough, when Marvel made the movie Black Panther, there had already been a movie called Black Panther, which was about something completely different that came out like 10 years prior. But it was authorized. No, you're right. That was called Panther. It was just a Panther. Like a Bada Panther. That was pretty cool.
Starting point is 02:12:03 No, it's about the Black Panthers, you feel I mean. Oh, yeah, well, that makes sense. But the cold thing is, you got enough scoochliani. If you could pay for it, then it don't matter at the end of the day. So trademarking. It do matter. Well, when it comes to.
Starting point is 02:12:17 You got enough money. It do matter. In regards to things like how strong your lawyer is to, you know what I'm saying, as far as that intellectual property and as far as, like, what you own as far as the trademarking when it comes to whatever the specific thing is. So I got a enough money. Okay, it's not going to be a painful.
Starting point is 02:12:33 sequel, it's going to be a paid and full series. Series, yeah. That's hard. I think there's more money to be made doing a series. Is it a loophole with that? If you make a series out of some shit somebody already got a movie for? I don't know. Not if you own the rights to something. If you own the rights to like the intellectual property of a project, then they have to get
Starting point is 02:12:55 and that may be the thing that Dame Dash is like trying to sweep under the rug or trying to avoid the conversation of. Maybe you sold the rights to that a long time. Yeah, no, he avoided all. All the questions. So, Dane is that right. Because he always preached ownership and I pay for the, so he shouldn't be able to, you know what I'm saying? Because Dave should be looking at that as like, I got a nice check coming in.
Starting point is 02:13:13 If 50 really wants to make this show, I could probably sell the rights for hundreds of millions of dollars just for them to use it, right? Or some type of royalty check coming in for them using it. So by him deflecting, it kind of shows you he probably doesn't even have that business in order. Also, was it all three of them or was it just Jay that didn't have the ownership of the Masters of Reasonable Doubt? Because I was a big thing for years. You were in court and all that recently. And they took Dames part for child support. Which is insane.
Starting point is 02:13:41 Listen to the keys. I just think they both snakes and we are way harder on day. Movies, there is no copyright on the title. Oh. Okay, title. Yeah, yeah, because that movie's definitely called belly too. For sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:54 It's just like now if you infringe on the art that is. Like the story? But the titles, that's why so many rap albums and songs have the same. But like, much he said, but like much he said, that that's basically that belly two is a Timo movie. That's not a real movie, right? Oh, for sure. Yeah, I get what he said. Like, like the real creators, they don't, they don't acknowledge that.
Starting point is 02:14:16 Yeah, if it made enough money, don't spend off of our shit. You can call it belly two, but we don't acknowledge that shit. And no hype will be. I forgot how to explain how, uh, but because it's been so many years ago, I run across the interview. But, man. So, so, so, so I could do a Menace Society too. Well, it's like this. It's like,
Starting point is 02:14:38 based on the same characters and like the same storyline. Or you can make, or you can make a movie, or you can make a movie with a character named Kane who survives a drive-by shooting and doesn't get shot. And when his girl was about to move to fucking, you feel me, out of state. No, that's too close. You'll get sued.
Starting point is 02:14:57 Yeah, for sure. I don't know. What is he spells a different? No, for sure, because. If you're going to Atlanta or are you going to go to here? He used to do. He was going to be Virginia. He was going to Richmond.
Starting point is 02:15:04 If we got the same name and then that same ending, you're getting soon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They might win because it's still like kind of like the same substance. Like you could try to change. Oh, well, he was going to Virginia versus life. Type shit. No, you was moving. The name is Kane.
Starting point is 02:15:17 You're just trying to say, he survived the shooting. Yeah. All in able. But this person died. But, man, come on. His boy. His boy, I dog. You feel like me like you're a kid.
Starting point is 02:15:28 You dog. He ain't old dog. Hey, man, well, I'm going to say, I'm disappointed to hear that. I was crushed, bro. But I saw that shit before I got in this, man. Why are you disappointed? Munchie, this fool's been fucking lying to us publicly for decades. Talker, not a liar.
Starting point is 02:15:44 Really? I know him as, I know him as a shit talk. He's a big complainer, not a shit talk. Complainer, for sure. He cried, bro. Can I talk? You interrupted me. That's weak.
Starting point is 02:15:55 But, like, he's a cry, baby. And a shit talker, but I didn't know him to be a liar. But he's a lie. though a lot. But to do a bow-wad challenge is crazy. And that's really been... No, no, no, that's exactly what...
Starting point is 02:16:09 Like, he's been doing that for the past few decades, dude. Can't nobody pulled none of that shit. I mean, kind of on this YouTube channel he got. He's, like, podcasting from the couch. And he's trying to sell products to, like a little button that says, pause and this and that. Much of you over here doing a pod with Adam and Adam refuse
Starting point is 02:16:25 that I do a pod with him. What does that tell you? Hold on one time. Said again? No, no, no, no. No, no, no. He already didn't did business with fucking Dane. I turned them to fuck off.
Starting point is 02:16:36 She's saying, though, she's seeing some of his interviews and they are kind of janky. I've looked at some of my... Yeah, I've watched him because I love Dane's interviews. When he's, you know, when he's with, what's the other dude he interviews with, art of dialogue? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I sometimes I want to see, like, oh, what's he going to say about Cameron? And I'm like, man, this is a bunch of bullshit.
Starting point is 02:16:50 I haven't heard all this shit before. And it's just stupid petty. So I click off. Hold on, hold on, hold on. What did Lusha? You said, Adam, what? So you're over here doing a podcast with Adam? times a week or at least once a week.
Starting point is 02:17:03 Adam refused to do a podcast with Dame Dash. And he already did that and he just turned off and he don't care to do it again. But the point is, if he was of such a high stature in the game, and this was several years ago. Now I'm going to tolerate him. He could be in a high stature and he's irritating. He's hard to deal with. What are you talking about, Munchy? All the time, there's somebody else who does a pot with Adam over here that you'd be getting into it with.
Starting point is 02:17:26 We're talking about Adam. You said you're using Adam as an example. No, but people. But not me. But I'm just saying. I'm not getting on camera with a Ralph Fiorafo-Xers. I'm not even, no, no, but what I'm talking about, no, I'm not talking about that.
Starting point is 02:17:39 I'm talking about the fact that there might be someone that's viewed by certain people to be difficult, whack. But guess what? I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. That's what I'm not doing it. You skip it for me to Adam. You're talking about what Adam would do or what I would do.
Starting point is 02:17:52 We talk about Adam, though. Yeah, exactly. You said Adam in the day business with Dame in the past. He just pissed them off, turned them off, and he ain't doing it no more. Right. But yes, you can. If Adam didn't want to deal with Hove, why does I mean, if Hove didn't want to deal with Dame,
Starting point is 02:18:08 oh, fuck it I'm saying. If Adam didn't want to deal with Dane, why the fuck does Hove have to deal with him? I mean, Jay and he had very similar arcs with Dane. It just took him like, you know, 10 years and it took me three podcasts. Anyway, come on, I just need to make an announcement,
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Starting point is 02:19:00 think of a good gift idea from my co-host here on the podcast. No. You got these of loboos? Damn spoiled it. I got to all the booboos. Whoa. You get a lobooboo. One, you get a
Starting point is 02:19:16 lobooboo. Ricky. So fire. And even Monchy B. Yeah. He go. Oh, German. I got a little. Bitch. You decided to get them again. I had to actually hide them from my daughter so that she wouldn't be able, so that she wouldn't see them
Starting point is 02:19:30 try to open them. Okay. Now you guys don't get it. This is the most thoughtful things Adam's ever done in his entire life. Like, this is way deeper than y'all realize. La Gurgger.
Starting point is 02:19:41 Lil hafe, man. He's great, too. Lil'Hefi. A great Labu. Lou Haffe. Leboboeufe. La Boofee. Gotta get him a shame.
Starting point is 02:19:50 Yeah. I'm gonna put him in a race. I've been checking out at the liquor store, the local liquor store, and I've been resisting it. I'm like, nah, I'm not going to do it. I bet that's a Lafoo for it also. I'm definitely a lafoo for it also.
Starting point is 02:19:59 I'm definitely gonna put this in the crib. Here's my third. My third. My third. My third. The monster. What is yours?
Starting point is 02:20:05 Wait. Hey, Hey, what is your say? What, what is your say? What, what is that?
Starting point is 02:20:10 I was in Santa Clarita. Oh, Santa Clarita. Yeah. Never heard of that. That's crazy. Oh, yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 02:20:15 I can't. Solid mall. Hey, Adam. Thank you, bro. That was really nice to you. No doubt.
Starting point is 02:20:19 All right. About the cry lush. All right. I know about, I don't know about, I think it's back got a chain. I feel like with Smackluck got his chain Make some sad music
Starting point is 02:20:28 I said how many years Less been on this podcast I'm not a gift Must crying Yeah Yeah I'm crazy What was you though?
Starting point is 02:20:39 A gift? No, you did You didn't ever What No I don't know How muchy Look at those blue eyes
Starting point is 02:20:46 He's like he gives gifts Uh no I just I mean I'm sure I've given some gifts I remember like when Josh turned 35, I bought him 35 backs and backwards. But then I saw Smack cry because they bought him some alcohol and cigarettes for No, they didn't know they don't do smack, bro.
Starting point is 02:21:02 He was so mad. He got the chain, bro. No, but this is before that. There was like, for some reason I saw this clip the other day, but like, do no, they were doing Secret Santa and Duno gave Smack a pair of chucks, but like the wrong chucks, I guess. What's the wrong chucks? I don't know. There was something weird about the chucks.
Starting point is 02:21:22 And then he gave them. some Newports and then like a bottle of henny and smack cry because he was so offended which I thought was kind of crazy because I'm like you're happy I'm like you obviously like those things no he was hurt I thought it was tears of joy no no he thought it was a lot funnier honestly tears of joy would make a lot more sense
Starting point is 02:21:39 like you just saved me like a hundred bucks on a bunch of shit that I was gonna buy anyway besides the shoes I guess anyway you crazy did anybody get like a weird colored one I don't know like how likely that is I got the same color is okay broke up blue I know there's like one color that is like more rare than the green the green one is the green the green is super elusive whatever hinas get juice on the pink one i'm gonna give it to my daughter are you gonna use this labo to get some house
Starting point is 02:22:07 i got a girlfriend that i'm very in love with he's gonna tag in the laboo with all the other labo but we're gonna meet me and the boobo was been a gangbanger tonight you tell me like it gets real freaky what color is this girl what color is this gurb what color is this gurb what color is this girl the winner and still underfeet. Let's go, Munchy. Oh, he got the rare one. Shut the fuck up. Wait, really?
Starting point is 02:22:34 Crazy, yeah. Oh, shit. That's tired. Yeah, I'm gonna put it right back in the load. Thank you. Hell yeah. Is it the same one you have? Yeah, that's the same one I got.
Starting point is 02:22:46 Yeah, that's crazy. I don't know what you're talking about. Damn, that's lit. Munchy got the girl. Gurg, Gert. Oh, yeah. Let's go, Munchy. Good looking out, Adam.
Starting point is 02:22:54 Luck of the Englewood. Graham Mason in around this bitch. Yeah, we know you. You got the Cota's last name, bro. Like that? Bro, a lot of people don't. They be like, damn, that's just so. Why don't I have to go and get a 22 on my name?
Starting point is 02:23:05 I should have just been Adam Graham Mason my whole life. And I just found out that your dad was a white-collar criminal? You feel me? I'm very interested in that. Man, it checks out. It does. It does. It doesn't surprise.
Starting point is 02:23:15 When I saw it, I wasn't surprised. Look at his son. Nicky, he was mischievous tagging on walls and fucking up. Yeah, you feel me? That was a tagger. You was fucking up, New Hampshire. I'm gonna turn my, mine did the MF due. Watch it.
Starting point is 02:23:26 You were still in bikes, right? You were stealing bikes? I actually never really sold bikes now. Oh, so I was feeling bikes when I was five years old. He would have been like, Adam, I knew you on my bike. It don't matter where you're stealing from. I'm saying, but because I know you was in a BMX, so like they bought you your first bike and you just got, you start playing around.
Starting point is 02:23:46 Honestly, I had a job since I was like 12. I was a newspaper boy, but I pretty much had the paper on that. They don't have it in the hood, bro. Newspaper boys, that ain't the thing. That's only in books. Even in the 90s? No, for like, I read like, on books like, I used to deliver newspapers. Really?
Starting point is 02:24:01 It was like on TV and shit. Like you're on a bike throwing like. So I would try. You know, all right, this is the fucked up part. By the time I became a newspaper delivery boy, it was like the game had changed where you're not just like throwing the papers. You had to go. You walk out in front of your house.
Starting point is 02:24:18 You got a giant stack of newspapers. You got to take them. You got to roll them up. Put them in a plastic bag, sometimes with a fucking a rubber band around it. And then a lot of the people had weird requests. Like they want you to go hang that shit on their doorknob because they don't want to have to wake up. It's cold as fuck outside and have to walk outside, put their shoes on, whatever, this snow.
Starting point is 02:24:37 They got door dash requests. They have all these things. But they're going to, like, in theory, they're going to tip you good because, like, the tips were a huge percentage of the money you were making from it. In theory, they're going to tip you good because you go out of your way like that. But, yeah, like, it would suck because you start the week off. the Monday paper is like this, and then by the end of it,
Starting point is 02:24:55 the Sunday paper was like this. So you could only carry like 10 of them at a time, so it would be so terrible. I have to go deliver 10 papers, go all the way back to my mom's house. Hey, so they want you to roll it up too? Well,
Starting point is 02:25:06 those ones, you couldn't roll them up, but kind of. Is it New York Times, or is this like the New Hips or Chronicle? The Nashua Telegraph. Okay. Local news, baby.
Starting point is 02:25:17 I support local news. Probably on its deathbed. I don't know. Definitely. Used to deliver papers. That's crazy. And then my next job was selling subscriptions to the paper door to door. So to be fair, in Los Angeles, paper boys, quote, unquote, hasn't been a thing since my
Starting point is 02:25:34 lifetime. We had, even in the 80s, because I used to play the video game Paperboy, and I was like. Which was the dream, yes. Right. Well, I was super interested in potentially having the source of income. However, in L.A., motherfuckers were driving doing that shit by the time. Yeah. And even when I was a paper boy, which was like 19.
Starting point is 02:25:52 1994 and on. It was like... I know, I know. I was born. I was like, that's my worth you. Even at that time, though, there was already becoming a thing
Starting point is 02:26:02 where you would have like grown-ass men with a big white van and they would just fill the whole thing up with like a thousand newspapers and do like the most insane number of deliveries and they could do it way faster than a kid on a bike. You know Mexicans in L.A. figured that out a long-ass time ago.
Starting point is 02:26:18 Yeah. And it was... Yeah, 100%. It just made more sense for the newspaper company. too, you know, like, it's just simpler for them to have, like, one guy doing, like, a huge year. My whole life I've grown up, Mexicans and pickup truck throwing that shit. That would be like that.
Starting point is 02:26:30 Damn, how old is you, bro? In 1993. You was born in nighttime, I think you can remember some paper boys? I mean, it's paper men, like you said. Yeah, you're the rooster, by the way, 93. You feel me? Damn, hold on, bro. I don't remember none of that seat.
Starting point is 02:26:45 Muchie, you was living in Inglewood. They wasn't throwing no fucking papers. I'm sure they were. They show was. What newspaper? LA Times They throw it hard Blue bag for the Sunday
Starting point is 02:27:00 I know because my parents still be getting that shit Because now I'm Wobu-Doo-Wu-Doo-Doo Woot-you-do Whoop-ee-Doo! Hey, can you click that link that says photos of Ian
Starting point is 02:27:12 wearing women's clothing service online And also, did anybody consider that maybe Go Yeo was just asking his girlfriend if he had a hemorrhoid? It was a proctology He said he was sending a freaky prick like, baby, come get this ass. I know. But I'm just saying that I'm pretty sure there's a picture of me bent over in front of the bathtub in my house from the first time that I ever got a hemorrhoid.
Starting point is 02:27:34 Show the screen. Hemroy. So this is popular up and coming underground rapper or whatever. Double X-L freshman. And these photos came out and people are like trying to get some kind of motion off canceling him for this. I notice the Sagey's Post has less than 5,000 likes. So might not really be working that great. But I mean, obviously from a gangster perspective,
Starting point is 02:27:57 this would probably be a cancelable offense. But Ian's never been pushing a gangster line. For the entirety of his career, he's been like, I'm the suburban chill dude. This is typical white boy like humor like. Because Adam introduced him as a gangster, bro. No, I was just kidding. He's a white boy who's definitely not a gang.
Starting point is 02:28:15 He's never, he's never once in his entire. I think that's one of the reasons why Ian's popular is because he's like, seemingly like a white boy that seemed pretty comfortable So this not the dude from Foucher against his intensity He'd be dropping a little hard for Yeah No, it's a white boy up there's a white guy dude
Starting point is 02:28:31 Yeah Honestly, is there a lot of difference between this And how Playboy Cardi be dressing? I feel like Cardi is Prettian is pretending to be goth Well, somehow that buys him a lot of Leeway after. They said he dressed like a gay vampire
Starting point is 02:28:43 God subculture probably gets you away. Yeah Metrospection I feel like he could get away with this I had a little bit of him confused with I feel like, he clearly making a joke. He gets a pass. I don't even fuck with Ian
Starting point is 02:28:54 music like that, but he's just joking and he's a white boy. No one's going to care anyway. We need to normalize this, man. Like, why can't we be as open-minded to Go-Yo as we already be in here? Hey, so that's what I'm getting confused with Go-Yeo. Didn't Go-Yeo? Yeah, he spread his ass and take a picture.
Starting point is 02:29:11 Yeah, he moves over and spread it open. He just Dave Dasch will call you gay for an hour. This is the thing. We already said, like, so we asked the question. So, like, that's why I actually. a question, like the man that like getting their ass eat, would they send a picture like that to their ass eater? Y'all was like, no.
Starting point is 02:29:29 So go yo, go yayo is trying to say the reason why he busted open like that, he was sending the picture to his ass eater. This right here, this is like some shit. He got his ass poking out. He's looking back, he got the cropped shirt out. Oh. In front of front, he got like, this is all female vibes, like right here with the muscular arms.
Starting point is 02:29:46 Okay, I got him confused with the first one. I got them confused. That's my mistake. So, can we say go Yale's pig is gayer? So, hold on. Yeah, he's naked. Oh. This shit is all.
Starting point is 02:29:59 Go gayer. Man, what the fuck is just going on in the society? Hey, hold on. We got a female. What's wrong with the men? Look around. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:30:06 Tim, we got a female in the building. Men getting their ass eight. How you feel about it? Insane. Insane that you even want that done, my brother. You could never. You could never. I'm not trying to do it.
Starting point is 02:30:16 No. What if there was a guy who was perfect? Jesus. It was a guy who was. perfect in every way. But he doesn't want to put a ring on your finger unless you're tongue in his butt hole down once a week. What?
Starting point is 02:30:29 Once a week. Just think about it like a freaky blowjob. You just dip down under the ball. That's all that is a freaky blowjob. How am I supposed to respect you after I see you with your legs up like that? There's all kinds of positions you can do. That's all kind of position. You guys don't got to be up like that.
Starting point is 02:30:45 I don't got to bend over and twerk. Hey, hey, let's by do some content on how to get his ass eight and not look feminine. Is she crazy. We got that sorted out, but are you a fan of getting your assate? I'm a lady, duh. Oh, okay, okay. That's cool. I respect that.
Starting point is 02:31:00 I'm a lady, duh. She's, like, from, like, a 90s sitcom. Tam's grocery store. Oh, God. Oh, shit. Tam's grocery. Tam would for a show be, like, going on a day with Overton and Living Single back in the day. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:31:18 Maxine Shaw, attorney at all. For show, Maxine. 16 shots, one of Maxine Shaw's home grill for the show. God damn it. Is this same to say 90s flying or now? I'm glad a female here I was able to ask that question. You scroll down.
Starting point is 02:31:31 I'm trying to see if there's any more of topics I want to talk about. Is Breakfast Club really having a RICO? I got to dip out in 20 minutes. No, you got to make a bigger. Oh, for the real estate scam. Oh, yeah, that's good. Whatever. Poyol and all his extra shit.
Starting point is 02:31:43 Oh, yeah. I mean, that's what Dame Dash did. That's a funny move. Like, you go on somebody's podcast. You know they're going to talk to shit to you. So you just, like, come in with your own list of shit. You rather have a repo or a rico. If Envy says anything about me, I'm going to say that he's getting a Rico.
Starting point is 02:31:58 If Charleman says anything, I'm going to say that he's gay. He had, like, all these days on deck. He really cooked. That is smart, though, because it's like, you know, think about DJ Envy. It would take him a half hour to explain that shit. And he can't, for legal reasons. It's like such a good thing to just muddy the waters there real quick. If you arguing with a fool, after a couple of minutes, you don't know who the hell the fool is.
Starting point is 02:32:19 You know what I'm saying? Now, salutes to them for not getting games. And that's why Munchy thinks that Dame won. Hold on. What you mean? Because he put on such a crazy good show.
Starting point is 02:32:29 Right. He won. He won the back and forth. In terms of like who's right. It wasn't a critic though. It wasn't. And it was right. Charlemagne to me seems right.
Starting point is 02:32:37 Charlie, and it was Jerry D who has that. He does he do the last 20 minutes of the interview. How many times have whack won and he's incorrect on everything he's saying, but he won the argument. No, that's a thing. So something.
Starting point is 02:32:48 Like, like Dave, he won that for sure. He was more witty. He had the better comebacks, his rebuttals. And he went on the show and told a man that he's gay. And that, uh, what do you say? He'll fuck him up.
Starting point is 02:33:00 He'll punch him in the face. And you ain't going to do shit. I mean, Dame did pop it now. I'm just saying it's a very specific world in which those are things that allow you to win an argument. Like, because in the real world, those things are kind of looked at as like, oh, he's wrong about everything. And that's why he had to threaten him. That's why he had to call him gay. Adam.
Starting point is 02:33:19 But it's super interesting. I get that for sure. The world you talk about is the world you live in. Explain that much. You're right. But I was saying that. So he won, period. Like, he won.
Starting point is 02:33:32 You're saying it because you dislike him. But the world you live in, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, you're right. There's two different criteria in which I could judge this. And maybe it is the case in hip hop that we're, that we're just so solely concerned with being entertained that if, if, if, if, if, if all you have to do is just call it. the guy gay. I mean, that means that, like, I could go on a stream with, like, the smartest person in the game. I could go on a stream with somebody like, like, uh, fucking Mark, Mark, Mark, what the fuck is name? Mark Hill. Yeah, I could go on a stream with him and he's going to give me a 20-minute
Starting point is 02:34:07 breakdown of how I'm a culture vulture and I'm fucking up a game and stuff. And I'm going to say, well, guess what? You suck dick. I'm looking in your face. You look like you suck dick. And everybody's going to just die laughing and fall in. But I don't know. I don't even think it's going to work for me. I don't think people are going to be that entertained. I think they would expect more from me. It really says a lot about how little we expect from Dave that he can just call Charlottomaine Gay and we give him a W.
Starting point is 02:34:30 That's what Kendrick did. Kendrick was losing. He, boom, had the knockout song, and it was down from there. Call the box. He took that one long. You let the standard slip a little bit. It could take the one line. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:34:41 Take that one thing. Interesting, Munchy. You could be winning a fight the whole time and somebody hit you once and it's over. So, he won that. I think, I think, I think, Kidrick probably was with it from like, I mean, Drake, as you say, you're saying, Kendrick was down. I think Drake potty was winning, like, from like a song making perspective,
Starting point is 02:34:59 but from a lyrical perspective, like, Kendrick, like, before, not like us, Kendrick, like, had that shit in the bag, for real. Family Matters was free. No, no, I think it was down. I mean, I think, and only because it's his beat selection, that's it. Because Kendrick, he, he, he just showed he could make a party worker, and they just took off, and everybody liked that had two-year-olds. I mean, if you think about Drake versus Migrants,
Starting point is 02:35:20 Mill and Kendrick versus Drake, it's like they were both one with a hit record. A hit record is so hard to avoid that it's just like, it just trumps everything. And I think that like the music equivalent or the podcast equivalent of a hit record is going on a hilarious ignorant rant where you call a person gay over and over maybe, at least in this case. If you could make a diss song, bishops could shake ass till you won. Or that the kids like you won. The weird thing about it is just that Drake has made so many hits throughout his career that
Starting point is 02:35:48 he apparently didn't have one that diss Kendrick because that would have if he had released a son that was half as impactful as not like us at that moment then i mean it would have just basically felt like oh this this fight is still going it's still up in the air keep in mind keep in mind like the whole thing started by fucking kentrick mentioning him on the control verse on the big son joy that's literally what started this rivalry which culminated no it's really the future thing because if he could have been before then that started to be that's not no no no but but but it ain't it like It didn't kick off this seven-game series. No, no, but that's what initially started to dislike
Starting point is 02:36:24 because Drake didn't understand why would you diss me. And Kendrick, like, bro, this is just rap. I'm just like, I'm just doing this and rap, bro. I was actually shouting him out. I think that Drake had some subliminals leading up to that. He had a bunch of subliminals. No, this is what I'm saying. But initially, the control verse started the beef.
Starting point is 02:36:41 Then after that, they both were dissing each other, like, in sublimity, like when it was dropping records for sure. And then Kendrick just said, and dropped the name, like, you know what I'm saying, on the shit with, um, future. You think Kendrick was on the ropes before not like us dropped, though? Hell yeah. On the ropes were. He was on the ropes, so.
Starting point is 02:36:58 He just threw a haymaker. That's the one thing I didn't agree. I think Kendrake was not like us. Drake was doing a joke songs. It wasn't even no battle. Drake just was, Drake was just wracking up accolades. It wasn't no battle. It was a back and forth.
Starting point is 02:37:15 It was a back and forth. They were sneaking in each other, but it wasn't no, no. I'm not during the battle. We jumped into the battle. He said he felt like Kendrick was on the ropes. And I say, yes, 100% Kendrick was on the ropes. He threw a haymaker, and that's how he won. Let's be real, that.
Starting point is 02:37:28 That song felt like the death blow at that moment. I remember. I was a guy. Drake is killing him. And that motherfuck was not like us dropped 30 minutes after Drake dropped the shit. Because the shit that drink dropped was crazy. Because he did the same thing that Drake did. Because Drake, because Drake didn't.
Starting point is 02:37:47 not like us. Drake dropped the Duffy song, you feel me? And then like, and then, way more. You got to, like, he did the same strategy
Starting point is 02:37:55 that Drake used against me, yeah, with like, charged it up, sorry, it was the charged up joint. You feel me? He,
Starting point is 02:38:00 uh, Mek responded and then he fucking smoked his ass. And that's the same thing. So, Euphoria came out. Euphoria was like, people thought that was a strong record, but it was like,
Starting point is 02:38:08 it was like, it was kind of coffee house. I hate the bitches you fuck. What? It was just talking about. Yeah, that wasn't going to do it. As if rappers aren't all trying to get in the same
Starting point is 02:38:17 panties, bro. Rams was a strong record. Like, like, but you can't say that though. Kendrick, and he's speaking from himself, Kendrick, and showed that he ain't went after no bras that Drake and went after. Sounds good. Hey, but, but, but, but, hold on. Let me speak on it.
Starting point is 02:38:32 What you know that we don't know? You said it sounds good. We went after that Drake was dating or fucking. This song. I'm saying like the type of woman, the type of woman that rapper is finding out of metaphors, man, they want to get direct in witnessing shit. They want some disrespect. They want some jokes.
Starting point is 02:38:46 Yeah, yeah. And you're going to get these similes. Yeah, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think it was, I think when, not like us, that shit was, that shit was a freaking out of bar. He was down like 40-0. He should have just dropped another hit. Hell yeah. He didn't drop another hit.
Starting point is 02:39:01 He went to soft around, trying to be introspective about the battle and shit. Not like us. It was over. No, it was over with. It was over. It was not coming back. I knew. I knew.
Starting point is 02:39:07 And I'm a Drake fan. He should have just kept swinging. I'm a Drake fan, but y'all said, Kendrick was down at 4-0. Four zero. He would lose. Who hot voice shit? What song did he win with? Well, hold on.
Starting point is 02:39:17 Family matters. The first song. But Drake is a guy that pretty much is... But Drake is supposed to go number one every time he drops the record. What? Hey, look. Hey, let, she's talking about right now. We're talking about during the beat.
Starting point is 02:39:31 Yeah, yeah, no. But even... But check game, though, during the beat. We're talking about right now during the beat. But the only other number one song from this exchange was the future joint that Kenji came out. Yeah. So he had two number ones out this. Drake got zero.
Starting point is 02:39:44 Five grand. So. Okay. We're talking rap now, though. Don't go to the billboards. We're talking about rap. But the reason why... You can't just run to the billboards and say, oh, two number ones.
Starting point is 02:39:53 Exactly. Back got nominated and then, you know, you got this... Not like us, bro. Most this song's not getting no awards, bro. But just the fact, but the reason why you have to acknowledge it is because it's Drake. The big... The sales and the numbers and statistics... Man, not the sales is great.
Starting point is 02:40:10 You're doing with the biggest star in the world. A kids are won. Yeah, Kenji won. That's what we're not talking about sales and shit. We talked about that. We talked, bro. It's nothing wrong with Kendrick being 4-0 and then throwing the last punch
Starting point is 02:40:21 and winning the fight. That makes the story even better. There's something wrong with it. There's just your opinion he was down 4-0. No, no, I'm just saying. I'm just saying that makes the story better. You know what I'm saying? That makes it hard.
Starting point is 02:40:33 I don't believe he might get an edge. I don't believe he was down 4-0. I don't think he was on 4-0. I don't think he was on 4-0. Do you believe he was down 4-0? Let the people I mean honestly Like the eventual narrative
Starting point is 02:40:50 That kind of takes over Is always going to be like a super simple one And I don't even think like Most people really even remember Any of the songs besides not like us And then we all remember not like us To the point that it's kind of annoying Like if I hear it in the car
Starting point is 02:41:04 I'm like God just turn this off I'm so But kids are fans love euphoria We saw stadiums all over the world Seeing euphoria Word But that's still I feel like that's like a fan hit. You know, 40 kill pushups.
Starting point is 02:41:16 That's kind of what I was trying to say. And he questioned his blackness. He put that sample on there. I mean, I got to go lit because I don't even lie. I wasn't three. I had to go back because I kind of forgot. But like me hearing it back there, I never, and I, like I said, I don't give a fuck about that West Coast shit.
Starting point is 02:41:32 I'm a Drake fan. He's where I fuck with the nigga music. So I never thought that Kendrick was down like 4-1, like, because like that euphoria went crazy to me. So I have to go back and like Master's, songs up. Drake, I like to push up. That shit, that shit was banging. But like, lyrically, like,
Starting point is 02:41:48 lyric, I, man, listen to the lyrics, bro. That's what that's all I said. That's what I said. I can't listen. Y'all listening. Y'all listening. Y'all going by y'all going by the sound of a song he made a song. I'm going to world over. I'm going off the lyrics. Would you agree that Kendrick was down, though? I'm not saying maybe
Starting point is 02:42:06 you're not four-oh. But would you agree that Kendrick was down in the battle? Aren't you a I have to master. Like, how many songs, they got a piece? they had like three, right? Because Kedger was dropping them slow intro spectator. How many songs for his family matters for real, though? That's like three different songs, bro. I think he was chopping him up.
Starting point is 02:42:23 Kendra just opened his mouth. Somebody go get him a Grammy right now? That show him's just like him. But that is horrible. He got pumped up. He was serving him. He was Shishimi. You feel me?
Starting point is 02:42:36 He played the one. It was well. They had the men driving through the city. And I think the thing that people don't realize that that kind of goes unnoticed is Kendrick's timing with that shit. Like Drake dropped the haymaker. But he didn't let his ass breathe
Starting point is 02:42:51 30 minutes before he came and not like us. He was telling him hurry up. Bro, I'm on God, I'm like, yo, because we're just getting to the Drake shit. I'm over here watching the van getting towed and everything. I'm like, yeah. Got his ass. And then boom. Get you, damn, dang, dang. I'm saying this motherfucker. I'm dancing.
Starting point is 02:43:08 Like you was at one of Atlanta College. Atlanta. I thought it was over. Like, Drake got him. Then, boy, they dropped that goddamn not like us. I'm like, maybe he just hit the spirit. I'm like, damn.
Starting point is 02:43:21 Hey, boy. Hey, I'm with you when you're right. I'm team West Coast, for sure, but I'm still a fan of Drake. He's on top three or five. For sure, Drake. Bro, I'm not going to lie. Even though I'm big enough Drake right now, me and the homies was on the phone, like, bro, when is Kendrick going to drop?
Starting point is 02:43:34 Like, this is getting out of hand. Like, he has to say something. It's getting disrespectful. I remember that Sunday. Like, it was like a whole week went by, and I was like, no he's got a drop bro for the coast when it was me uh fucking spider and uh flaco i think kedger just had to drop up tipple for y'all i think he was rapping yes lagers are losing in the playoffs all we had was kentry hey guess what we needed we needed kenture to drop more
Starting point is 02:43:59 on this very same show on this very same show on the no jumper show me adam and brick we're chopping it up and vehemently made the point he needed a west coast banger he need to go deep and He needed to tap into his inner calling out names by corrupt. His inner... Now, I ask his question. Look on that Eric was producer. Since I'm on the West Coast... I said DJ Quake and it turned out to be mustered.
Starting point is 02:44:21 Since I'm on the West Coast... And Kendrick... For this. By hands down, bank was Drake, right? He killed him. But Drake was known for bringing underground artists up. Even on that West Coast Beach, shit, Kendrick was lyric. No, for sure, for sure.
Starting point is 02:44:34 But, you know, Drake was known for, like, bringing up artists and giving people shots. Did Kendrick, when he was at the top of the game, as people said, and vanquished Drake, did Kendrick do the same way? The whole entire TV. What are you talking about? I'm asking. You're awesome.
Starting point is 02:44:47 Your thugs. The whole entire TDE is on Kendrick's back, and that's not shade. Not to mention his whole GNX album was giving a shot to Underground L.A. After all the criticism of that. But look, but look, but look. I'm asking. I'm asking. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:44:59 Okay, but look. So let me give you some insight on that. So no, Kendrick didn't, but it's a reason why. I see Drake coming from Toronto, Canada. Right. Drake had to come over here. And Drake had to make a. connections to where on the flip
Starting point is 02:45:13 side, Kendrick, Kendrick coming into the game, you ain't had nobody on the West Coast in a long time that made history and was making waves like Kendrick was and Kendrick got into the industry and was seeing how motherfuckers really felt about motherfuckers
Starting point is 02:45:30 from the West Coast. You know what I'm saying? So, so Kendrick, from his perspective, he's getting in the game like a lot of these niggas is faking. It's a lot of fake friendships, motherfuckers is faking. and I'm not with that. Okay.
Starting point is 02:45:43 You know what I'm saying? So there really wasn't. I don't got to make no friends. I don't got to think. I'm from a legit spot place. Not to say nothing about Toronto, Canada, but I'm from a legit spot and place. But Kendrick Cole circles turn now.
Starting point is 02:45:56 He has his boy running PG-Lang. They do creative direction for Chanel, school boy Q up now. Yeah, yeah. Cizza, like all the other artists from TV. Yeah, see, yeah, see, Kendrick, I mean, I'm not sure you right about that. I think Drake just probably just like.
Starting point is 02:46:10 But it's like you said he had to get to, He had homies out here. Drake has put on more people. Next is in different places and different states. Yeah, because Drake moved around everywhere. So you say, okay, okay, okay, okay. I forget what song is. Because Drake didn't put on a Toronto artist on or whatever.
Starting point is 02:46:21 It's an expendic lady that he put on one of them songs with Giannix. It's an expendix. Yes, yes. And she put her on and she blossomed after that. The chick that, no, she saw. I don't know her name, bro. Is that her name? I don't know her name, but the woman that sung the national anthem in Spanish at the Dodger Stadium.
Starting point is 02:46:37 And he heard that. I was like, I want her on the album. And put her on. Yeah. Yeah, that was amazing. So he did. Yes, yes. But people just don't even know what they're talking about.
Starting point is 02:46:46 And then the phone conversation, that he didn't even know that what he was going to do. Well, he didn't hear the conversation and he did GNX and put all the up and comys up in LA. What do you mean he didn't put people out and people thinking that Kim was a good? No, no, no, no, I'm straightening your point. I'm saying he put, he had us thinking that Kim was a good rapper. You feel me?
Starting point is 02:47:05 Oh, shit. Like. Who was King? Bluff from FMW? That's just, no. That's hilarious. That's big team. That's a different keem.
Starting point is 02:47:14 Orange soda shorty. That's big Keem. Yeah, yeah. Baby Keem is his little homie. Is yeah. Okay, I know. Cousin, potentially. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:47:22 Oh, is it really? Oh, I was just kidding around. Very well played, though. Kendry played that shit amazing, though. Like, the timing was. We need a Rico for Keem. What? No, just kidding.
Starting point is 02:47:35 He's attracted to the Hoover Rico. Yo, I got to dip. I got something going on. Luz. You mind doing the, The donos. You got some hos to fuck? Yeah, I got you.
Starting point is 02:47:43 Not hos so much as family obligations. Hey, you gave a Lubu to gang them. I'm glad that she didn't spot the Labubo. She didn't even know that the Labubo. Because for sure, she would have been coming for her Labubu. Damn, Parker need that issue. I mean, like, the random Labuboos be, like, wear some bread. Oh, yeah, they're worth of bread.
Starting point is 02:48:04 Yeah. I think the one that you guys were worth, like. Yeah, my daughter ain't getting this. Yeah. Yeah. I'm about to go home and go on the phone. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:48:14 I'm going to eBay that motherfucker. Stop the show. I appreciate y'all though. It was great seeing everybody. Appreciate you, bro. Yeah, damn. Thank you very much. You were lovely.
Starting point is 02:48:22 Tam killed it, right? Let's be honest. And Nietzsche. Yeah, shout out of us for having you on the show today. About that thing, you said you want to call DJ Vlad and get me on his show. So we'll just talk later about that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you.
Starting point is 02:48:33 Yeah, I got you. Also, I saw y'all in the chat trying to give me an emoji of a burger for Tam's burger. I'm from L. So I'll take that. I don't think you even. I ate at Tansburger before. I have ate at Tansburger. Okay.
Starting point is 02:48:45 Off fig, off West, they're everywhere. Much you're like you. What about? Dr. Grants. Okay.
Starting point is 02:48:51 I just like to say the end and out burger. It's one of the amazing, most amazing things that I've ever fucking taken. By the way, all people that's towards. With the animal shit. I hope you like that. I got the animal style.
Starting point is 02:49:02 But Niche's a smart guy because he's from Atlanta, a meka for soul food. Right. You feel of me? So why get soul food in L.A. When it's going to disappoint. point in. Yeah, no disrespect.
Starting point is 02:49:11 I don't want no soul foot out. But he went to different genres. So why you shit, you should have man. Look, bro, you should have went to blast, my nigga. You should have blessed or you should have went to one of these Jamaican spots and got you some goddamn ox tail, my nigga, peas and rice, my nigga. I fucks with the oxy.
Starting point is 02:49:24 You should have got the ox tail peas and rice, my nigga. And then sometime at we jamming, my nigga. They got the oxtail enchiladas, my nigga. Hey, brother. Don't threaten me with a good time. Don't threaten me with a good time, my neighbor. I'm trying to tell you. Say less.
Starting point is 02:49:39 But Blanche run out of fool, bro. They ran out of food. And back in the day, Munchy, there's a Belizeon spot on Manchester and Nuttwood. It was called, I think, Little Belize. Manchester and Nuttwood ran the same way. But I know what you're talking about, though. I know about Lillian. In downtown, you're like the downtown area?
Starting point is 02:49:54 Yeah, yeah, that spot right there. Oh, my God. That is literally one of my favorite spots. But Nichi did it right and went to other genres. He said Mexican and Mexican. Yeah, I went out of Mexican. The Mexican and eight, yeah, I'm Korean. I ate some, that Korean was some of the best.
Starting point is 02:50:09 Hey, bro, you know, I've lived in Korea before. So that was like the best Korean I had since I left Korea. Like, this shit was, what you get it from? It was in Korea Town. Korea Town. That shit was like that. Man, come on. Come on, show us out of the Vampart District.
Starting point is 02:50:22 You know what the fuck going on. Let's take a look at that. We think about Rampart. We think about some other shit. Hey, Korea Town. Let's take a look at the, um, Rampart District. That sounds like some police shit. You know, there is a police.
Starting point is 02:50:36 That is the jankiest police force. of all time by a significant margin. You were not wrong at all. We have a current investigation going on with LAPD as well. We certainly do. But shouts to Danica, Ismail, Bobby Cash, Rick Watts, Joseph Edwards,
Starting point is 02:50:52 and Terry Gray for becoming members. Shouts to Asada Z's, he said, Black Belt, Brandon, back on the couch. He got a new chain of Rick Owens. His face still swollen and lumped up from them Wardee fans. Oh shit. I believe he's referring to a mind.
Starting point is 02:51:09 They're talking about me. Yes. Thanks for the Rick Owens, uh, dick. You do have the Rick's on, let's be honest. Yeah, I got the Ricky's on there. So I see James said, Thugga, thugga, a fan boy and fluto with hard emojis is the goat, a bunch of roses. You see what the ladies out here saying. Eastside trays, Cah, peace and love, everybody, cut Adam, Cah.
Starting point is 02:51:31 What's the green, car, rag? You're trying to see from tacos now, Cah? I don't know if that's a dis, but I don't know what the fuck that means. Definitely. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's what it is for me. Yeah, because of the ATL should see on permanently. Fuck you.
Starting point is 02:51:45 You got lost so many times. That's literally like. He reading the chat, but you got to watch it shit. I don't know what it means. I literally don't know what that means. Yeah, I don't know. That's the shit that I was talking about yesterday. I don't be knowing what the fuck going on.
Starting point is 02:51:56 Yeah, for sure, for sure. That's what it is. Yeah. I have no idea. I don't be having no idea. I wouldn't expect less than even know what that. I genuinely don't. And I'm pretty tapped into gang just as.
Starting point is 02:52:05 Yeah, that's one of my eyes. Yeah, okay. All right. shit well that being said care Cameron Williams Williamson Martin thank you for becoming a member reality check wire gang bangers so emotional
Starting point is 02:52:18 laughing my ass off screaming and crying over zessy goofy snitch rapper shaking my head oh yeah they're toxic as fuck Tony bro not sure why I ain't got so mad I see what both sides saying though the new host and solid salute lush
Starting point is 02:52:36 to the last few weeks it's a battle wrap been fired. Shouts to Tony Bro. He's a big part of battle rap culture. It definitely has been, we're going to get to do it on the Thursday show because it's been a lot cracking in battle rap. Official catching the fade with copy brown on stage. A whole lot of the whole lot is. J.T. Coo said, and too emotional about simple subjects up here trying to argue with
Starting point is 02:52:59 Munchy. Bertho said, but we was both going back and forth with each other. So what are you talking about emotional? Y'all ain't seen me get emotional or mad. So that's how y'all must get emotional or mad. You know what I'm saying? He was getting alive. He was getting alive with each other. It's a conversation.
Starting point is 02:53:13 People, it's like the same thing. Like people yesterday, like, hey, if, uh, if me getting a checked for a comment is getting marked out, that's a new word for Markout because back of the day, markouts were really, really, really embarrassing. So I don't know. I guess nowadays markouts mean something way more, less aggressive. So I would say that I'll say that the chat. That's going to always try to turn motherfuckers up and against each other when there's no reason
Starting point is 02:53:41 when there's not really any even beef to begin with. Barreto also said, Anf, he must be sleepwalking if you think he can talk to Monchie B like that. Mr. John Doe said this brother, Anatoe definitely withdrawn, give bro a cup. Mr. John Doe said, I don't want to keep bringing all this shit, but he's talking about it by man.
Starting point is 02:54:00 Shit is crazy, bro. Yo, y'all chat is fucking bananas. Cameron Williamson Martin said, man Anna Munchy on BS. Everybody know that YSL shit. Crazy and goofy content going crazy. Shout out, Auntie Munt and No Jumper. Show today, everything 420.
Starting point is 02:54:20 All right, but a show scheme. Ant needs a long rest. Shouts of Bison. You feel me? I see what you tried to do and I wasn't going to go for the trick bait this time, homie. I caught that one. You feel me?
Starting point is 02:54:32 Yeah, you feel me? J.T. Koo said, young aunt they don't care about nothing but where i'm about to lay and he's the rest way the rest say was a better one before but shout to jacicu hey aunt quit talking crazy to big munchy though man you two you two turn for no reason way too emotional big bro and disrespect on call for um what disrespect where did where did any disrespect come from we both was getting a lot with each other disrespect where who got disrespected i think that was just a heated conversation
Starting point is 02:55:05 I don't think it really was I don't think anybody called anyone out their name I should call good content. People weird. That's why I'd be saying chats. Like who got disrespect? Nobody got disrespect. It was a good conversation. They were both passionate about their points.
Starting point is 02:55:17 So I think that's all that matters. That's what we get paid to do, brothers. You feel me? Luke Mack said, only donating so I can shout out Ricky. He's solid as they come. Been watching this 2017. Love the new error.
Starting point is 02:55:29 We appreciate you. Luke Mac. Yeah, because I'll be hating on really too much. Tom. John Doe be on me. He's chest. Tom Cruz, Mom's shoes,
Starting point is 02:55:39 Anne Hefe and Monchy, two Alpy cats, trying to insert dominance in front of Tam. Also, it's time to send notorious NK. Sympathizer, lush to the Thursday show. Hey,
Starting point is 02:55:50 hey, Tim, get your input on that comment, please. I feel like that's just whoever's watching this little kid's shit because I know Monchy outside this, so he wouldn't have to look cool in front of me.
Starting point is 02:56:01 Yeah, we're from the same place. Essentially. And Anne He's cool. He's cool. He kept me alive on the country. competition. So he don't ever
Starting point is 02:56:07 got to look cool for me. That niggas trying to snack me up. Tam. Damn, how did you get eliminated? Oh, I got eliminated because
Starting point is 02:56:15 and wanted St. Louis up in here. Yeah, I got eliminated because me know what he's working and popping in and I can't compete with that. My man was popping that fly shit, man. You got to put the sharks up against the sharks. I mean, you couldn't put him up against nobody weak. So I just wanted to see two two top.
Starting point is 02:56:30 Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's here. I'm surprised if we didn't see like a contest confrontation between Nietzsche and Tam today because they're both like
Starting point is 02:56:40 each other gender K, low key. What's not gender K? She didn't say anything. She didn't say anything triggering. You got feminists and what's the opposite of feminists? A menanist. Real shit though. Like if she didn't say anything out of pocket
Starting point is 02:56:57 like I can only respond to stupidity if it's stupid. If she ain't say nothing stupid, I ain't going to say that. You know what I mean? Everything she said was checked out. You know what I mean? But if If she would have overstepped and said something crazy, yeah, I would have popped in. Put it to the center of the kitchen real quick. There was no violation. To the kitchen.
Starting point is 02:57:13 I protect black men, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to always protect them. Yeah, that was the only crazy shit. Black men don't cheat. She's trying to put it just on us. Yeah, right, right. It's cool, though. It's cool.
Starting point is 02:57:24 I didn't get triggered today. Get off 1,400. It said no cat, munchy fly for a motherfucker who can't see. Shout out to hungry hippo FAPA 2. Look, I'm not going to lie. Me and the homie We were talking about, like Munchy Vee clearly
Starting point is 02:57:36 as good friends because he do say dripped out. You feel me for somebody that can't see the full extent of their wardrobe. I was told him
Starting point is 02:57:45 and he was like, yo, wear it for me, bro, and you looked out at war at the next day. I was like, real nigga.
Starting point is 02:57:50 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? May with the $5. Shout out Munchy. You were totally right. We can't believe anything Woody says. There's no reason for that FAA
Starting point is 02:58:00 OD behavior. Get off 14. Hunter and Jay Jones both became members. Thank you guys. Too much said. Hefe is hella weird for that. That dude is consistently wrong and about things and
Starting point is 02:58:13 is always using words wrong, laughing my ass off. You want to be smart so bad. Mr. John Doe said, all that yelling and shit, f-up the vibe, yo, sleepy at already not a good podcast. Or cool that shit down.
Starting point is 02:58:27 Mr. I don't do that internet shit. What's bro's name? Remember the Bible? schmabababalin That's really what his name is Yeah, yeah, type shit Thug broke my heart as a person Who looked up to people
Starting point is 02:58:42 Who were supposed to keep it 100 I agree I was fucking super hurt By Jeffrey Williams If you think he did snitch Or he didn't right I agree with you How could anybody that wore a dress
Starting point is 02:58:52 Disappoint you So like I'm saying If he did or he didn't snitch He wore a dress So if he did You can be disappointed No yes I can because Why
Starting point is 02:59:01 Because I don't even with Bro Can I explain why? If a person got a dress on, he can't disappoint you. Look, man. So, so, what, if he did or he didn't, either way. Because I thought he was just on some high-passion shit. A little off topic, I always thought it was super interesting that Thug used the snake as his emblem.
Starting point is 02:59:19 I always thought that that was very interesting because in hip-hop, why do you know, do you really know? Like, snakes are bad. You don't really know why he put the dress on what the reason is? Because he had to, he had the stick under the dress. What do you say? The rock star shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The dark nails, the rock star like each other.
Starting point is 02:59:35 But he didn't quite nail. I'm not sure. We don't look boo with a dress on. So you're not, that's never, no rock star lifestyle type image. But he, he used to wear like, what's the plaid shits that the boys wear? Kiltz.
Starting point is 02:59:49 He's got quilts and shit around the hood. Kilt are not. Kiltz aren't gay. Yeah, but I'm saying, he was wearing kiltz. I thought he was trying to be. And you're African? You said you African? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:00 I'm not tripping. What are you? I'm, Zimbabwean, Zimbabwean and South African. Y'all don't wear kilts or like y'all don't go like N'clock. No, no, we have garbs and stuff like that, but not necessarily like that. But I don't know, I'm not, I wasn't tripping on the dress
Starting point is 03:00:12 because I thought it was some high fashion type shit. Yeah. I see people in fashion, like Rocky just had on the kiltsy with the jeans. That's what I was going to say. Thug never gave ASAP Rocky and that's the problem. But hold on. This is what made young thugs so cool to me is, whoa. This guy is such a fucking gangster.
Starting point is 03:00:29 He could get away with wearing his skirt. No, that don't put that with gangster, bro. Okay, that's how I'm outside. I'm outsider. But that's how it looks at it. But there was never any like speculate. There hasn't been any like scandals to come out to say any kind of homofore I don't think he gay.
Starting point is 03:00:44 No, I don't think he was gay. But he did it, he did it for shark value. Yeah, all queer baiting. He's going through enough, bro. Man, he's rich. Fuck what he going through. He got more money than everybody in here. He does that.
Starting point is 03:00:56 So, so I'm saying he did it for shark value, but like, like you can't be disappointed when you hear some shit. about some telling shit or whether he kept it real, when they got it just on the whole time. No, man, but he made it seem like he was, you know, you feel me, he was rat Kay his whole career. So outspoken. All right, guys, let's not rehash.
Starting point is 03:01:14 King Joffrey drove for with the $5. Young Dro is definitely a better lyricist than T.I. He had the serious hip-hop heads tapped in listening because of the punchlines. I tried to say it. You know, you know, Joe one of the ones, man. I tried to say it before, yes, Dr. Groh, Joe. Again, this other person, a West Coast slider,
Starting point is 03:01:34 West Coast slider. He's been a member for three months and said Young Joe is better lyrically and T.I. is better at making music and telling a story. Literally what I said. And I think... A slap dro when I get out of here on the way.
Starting point is 03:01:44 Please, underrated. Hey, hold on. Not to interrupt. Just like battle rappers to rap better, but, but, but musicians make songs better. Correct, Munchy. Battle rappers can't make a song
Starting point is 03:01:54 to say their life. Well, now that's a bit of a completion. No, no. No. But that's why, that's why. That's why Cassidy got two hit songs and it was over. Oh, shit. Last time I checked,
Starting point is 03:02:05 two hit songs is pretty, the thing is like what we classify. I'm a hustler. I'm a hustling. He got to show R. But what people? Battlewippers can't make, make, uh, songs. Like,
Starting point is 03:02:15 typically people that are that focus on lyricism, you're right, are not going to be able to make a song. But there are, like, I disagree with your overall statement, but like, I think, name battle rappers, that's successful in a rap industry. Sue, sir, you feel me?
Starting point is 03:02:30 He's not, he's not successful in a rapist. Okay, so Eminem. Eminem. Eminem is a battle rapist. He never been considered a battle rapper. Yes, he was. Well, he made a whole movie about battle rap scene. Yeah, he was. He battled the scribble gym.
Starting point is 03:02:44 He battled at the fucking Rap Olympics. He battled at the scribble gym. Those are the biggest battle rap outlets at the time. You can't say Eminem, not a battle rapper. That's like the only one. He came up to battle rapper. Man, Remy Ma, he's not. The only one I can consider, bro.
Starting point is 03:02:55 That bitch is a battle rapper. He, he's not because, like, I could give The thing is, what do we define as a battle rapper? Because guess what? Battle Rappers, they, they had a battle rapper. He was on...
Starting point is 03:03:07 French Montana was on Smack DVDs. He was battling fools. He's a very successful artist. Bird of Luke, loaded Lugs. They're not going to make a banger to go... No, they're not going to do that. In general, correct, but they can wrap their ass off. But battle rappers are also, like,
Starting point is 03:03:22 have written some of the most successful songs. They can be in the studio and feed somebody some bars? Correct. So I think, and that's, I think that's the biggest thing. I think what Munchy's saying is, Like, you know, any of the top-tier battle rappers, they haven't had commercial success. Correct.
Starting point is 03:03:34 Man, none of them. All you could think of is fucking Remmy Ma and Cassidy with them two songs, and you ain't heard of that nigga seen. Chatsy-Carrs. I'm not right there. I'm not putting them in there, bro. Think about this. Think about this.
Starting point is 03:03:49 So let's look at all the subcultures in hip-hop. There's so many different little sub-genre sub-chultures. If you compare that, boom, you just named three people that emerged. We're very successful. cultures. I'm talking about a battle rap is like a subculture within hip hop. I mean, it is hard to name a battle rapper that got a hit song. Very difficult. Almost impossible. Well, okay. Let's keep going.
Starting point is 03:04:11 Let's keep going. Nika, is Remy Ma and Cassidy. Who else? So, okay, do we get to count Rhymefest who wrote Jesus walks? No, we didn't know. I believe he was a charting artist as well. I'm not talking about it. Because like what are you find is a battle record because there's so many rappers that have battled? Do we call them battle rappers?
Starting point is 03:04:31 Yeah, but this is the thing. If your first impression of an artist is either a commercial song or a battle rapper, anybody that I've first impression most of the time of them being a battle rapper hasn't had any commercial success. Now, given, there's plenty of artists that had commercial success,
Starting point is 03:04:46 but they battled before, yeah, for sure. But that didn't get them on, that motherfucking hit song. It's nobody that has really made the transition from like URL to goddamn, you know, I believe the game. I believe DMA's a battle rap
Starting point is 03:05:00 I believe Drake battle rap but they're not battle rappers niggas like they mainstream artists I'm talking about battle rappers they can't do this thing
Starting point is 03:05:10 in the mainstream Well When the commercial artists try to come to the battle rap Some of them niggas get their lunchbox They go get in Joe butt
Starting point is 03:05:18 You make a good You make a really good point But He got his head chopped down But also He did But here's the main thing the battle rappers don't focus on marketability in the same way.
Starting point is 03:05:31 I'm just talking about what we're talking about. Because I don't know you. But what you're talking about. That's your background. Of course. You can't keep moving the goalpost, bro. No. Which ways you want them to slice you up and put you on the grill.
Starting point is 03:05:43 That part. How many which ways? No, he's making good points. He's cooking you. He's making good points. It's okay, bro. He's making good points. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 03:05:52 No, but the fact of the matter is there's so many things. I think the game would have more. says being a battle rapper than the Main Street rapper. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Hold on. I don't know about that. Hold on.
Starting point is 03:06:03 I'm with you when you were doing really good. What the hell are you talking about? Documentary? Hold on. Hold on. Radio. Game. Name a song where he's on a hook.
Starting point is 03:06:13 It's always some instrumental shit or somebody else doing a hook. What's it for? Fucking them rap stars. Who cares, though? Who cares about the hook? Bro, no, no, no, no. If you're a musician, you can make a complete song. He ain't on no hooks or none of his song.
Starting point is 03:06:26 You're right His big hit records He is not on the majority No, none of them She said one You go name two If you can squeeze another one Bro
Starting point is 03:06:35 She had said that Dream fucking the rap star She said that That wouldn't get far Dreams is a separate He said He's a cold Marmalizing shit
Starting point is 03:06:45 That ain't him Oh come on bro What does the hook matter? Oh yeah Barton I was just He's not a fucking hood That shit's a classic
Starting point is 03:06:54 A big part of a commercial song Bro, the game don't have no songs with him on the hook. He's a battle rapper. He can rap forever for bars and bars and bars. Bro, he needs somebody to do the hook for him, period. You name one and you got half of it. He got, he's got hits.
Starting point is 03:07:12 No, no, most of his songs has other people on the hits. He's a good songmaker. All of them, except for two. She got one and he got a half of one. Yeah, well, like, it's... All right, let's put out some money. Let's gamble. But here's the thing, though.
Starting point is 03:07:26 But if you look at a lot of like the biggest Outlook and let's bet But a lot of like A lot of works of art that are like in hip hop Like Nas barely did any hooks on Illmatic And it was right you feel like What are the hooks matter? Yeah
Starting point is 03:07:38 The hooks If you're gonna sell records The hook matter bro What are you talking about? The hook being more than the verse It just depends on what you're What's hell you're judging it on Like commercial success
Starting point is 03:07:49 There's so many I'm a hustler You don't know the rest of that nigga verse I can sell afraid to a bug What are you talking about? That's it was hard. I'm not talking to you, bro. You're about, like, you're something different.
Starting point is 03:08:02 Come off, that bull is snapping on there. Motel sucks. I'll give you that. I just want somebody to challenge me other than, money on my mom. But she said that hook and the half of hook, he said, where game is singing on the hook. Game only got verses and the hook being better than the beat
Starting point is 03:08:19 or somebody else do the hood. Well, yeah, so young Joe better than the game, right? I'm not saying that. He said, but still, regardless, the ceiling in battle rap is so much lower, even if he was the top battle rapper and that was the route he went, he still would make less money and be less successful than being the game who's been on these huge records and as like... Because at their time, like, the West really didn't have much going on.
Starting point is 03:08:42 Like, he really brought that shit back, though. Bro, for sure. Dr. Dr. Dre told 50 cents he don't know how to write songs like a song. Right. And he'll, I'm going to help him. And he did that. What was up when game, when game came out and he was talking about him on their rap for six months? I was going to know the right songs.
Starting point is 03:09:00 Game that's supposed to know the right songs. Dr. Dre had this conversation with 50. He was like he don't, like write a song. That game did not a write a song? Prior to that part. Prior to that part. Like a bridge, a hook. Like how to land.
Starting point is 03:09:14 I understand what you're saying, but I'm asking the question. You saying that Dr. Dre had told 50 that game came right the song? Right. Oh, okay. Yeah. Right. Factual. And it shows because.
Starting point is 03:09:24 You can't do a complete song, hook, verse, hook, verse, and then, like, and making it coming together. He didn't know the structure of it, yeah. But then again, remember when Gabe came out, he was saying that he only been rapping for like six months? No, but, but a lot of people. Yeah, yeah, I remember that shit, though. Yeah, that was a lie.
Starting point is 03:09:39 Yeah, but it'd be like that, like, even like, like, when I would like, and I've been rapping like, like forever, like, for real, like, I never did count the 16. I used to automatically just stop on the 16. But that ain't about knowing how to count bars. It's how to know, like, When they switch it up, bring a bridge in. Yeah, not how to structure a song.
Starting point is 03:09:57 Yeah, he didn't know how to structure a song. Like, structure a song, like, you know what I'm saying? Maybe, oh, I got to stop right here. I got to bridge money and let her singer a bridge in. Like, complete a song. But Dr. Dre schooled a lot of people on that. Eminem wasn't like a masterful songwriter before either. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:10:14 No, he ain't a voice. He imitate everybody. What are you talking about? Man, the gang could imitate anybody. Big Sean. He could imitate Eminem. He could, like, he could, he could, he could rap. Right.
Starting point is 03:10:25 He can't sound like him. I'm imitating it sounded like him. Man, he got a distinctive voice. 50 cents, not 50s. Game can't write a complete song, period. I think after all these years, shit, he should know how to write a complete song now. Yeah, no, he ain't got no melody in this shit.
Starting point is 03:10:48 Yeah, he ain't got no melody. Yeah, he didn't got a melody. I honestly think hooks are super antiquated in 2025, honestly, like rap songs. Man, bro, the whole thing of making the hip. This song is the beating the hook. If you ain't, if you can't come with a hook, you're in trouble. You're hurting.
Starting point is 03:11:03 You heard. You heard. You right. Gang can come with a hook to save his life. That's why Atlanta is winning. So, so, so, so. Because we write motherfucking hooks and the beats be jammed. This is not wrong. That's not wrong. I'm just fucking with you.
Starting point is 03:11:16 No, but you're not wrong. You're not wrong. With that being said, baby chats said, big rolls, Royces, and I got obnoxious, we mean Ferraris, the cars with the horses. Drow a goat mathematically with a pistol. I do trigger nomitry. Come on, bro. He was going crazy, dude, constantly.
Starting point is 03:11:34 Joe, be on the Ugly Money podcast next week. Shots out to Joe. See, I got you. I'm coming as well. Pause. Let's go. Come on. Ban her over.
Starting point is 03:11:43 Amazing names said love from Lakewood. Moose Man. Black people have been flying planes since 1941. First ever in 1917. Tuskegee Airman was the main reason. That's poor. Thank you, Moose. That's in the military.
Starting point is 03:11:58 Why Truman T. segregated the military, L. Ralph and Tam. We've been doing our shit for a while now, he's so serious about this. He DM me about it. Don't get caught up in all the victim talk,
Starting point is 03:12:11 and that's crazy. I don't know how because I don't watch the movie. I don't read the book. I know the history on the Tusker G. Pilots too. I wouldn't include military in the general population. But hold on, Tam, I only took a lot of flights,
Starting point is 03:12:21 and black pilots are rare. Exactly. That's the only point. Yeah, so. I think that movie with Deadzel came out where he crashed the plane. I'm not going, oh, shit. Nick, I'm too. Charlie said, I hope he's qualified.
Starting point is 03:12:35 Oh, yeah, I was like, what he? If his handshake is fucked up, I might know. Bro, there's a whole movie about Denzel crashing a plane. Don't do that, don't do that. What the fuck, dog? I don't want to get him. That's the shit the nigger would do, though. The fact that he was drunk.
Starting point is 03:12:50 That's the shit a nigga would do. And he kills some fine shit, too. I'm pretty sure. You feel of me? He was walking the plane on a spirit fly. and the pilot going to what's up my nigga you're gonna be like hell now I'm getting off
Starting point is 03:13:00 yeah this shit is not soul playing dog I'm going back to Delta dog I welcome black pilots all right I'm gonna plug a flood on soul plane too hell would be pretty lit
Starting point is 03:13:12 hell would be pretty lit the white kid that was in there directing music videos of the best part who was getting hitting the bathroom was so fine I remember being a young man
Starting point is 03:13:23 being like damn what a masterful work of art. Right. For my itching. Her Richie bids $5. Her real educated woman, unlike Jalise with her ITT tech degree.
Starting point is 03:13:33 Richie, I really appreciate you. Shout out to you for always being nice to me in the chat, but stop bringing other girls into it. Again, why is it always? But that's natural. They go, you go,
Starting point is 03:13:41 because it's only two girls around. They go put y'all against each other. No, just say something nice, and then you don't, you know, that's it. That's how you give a compliment. There you go, queen. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:13:50 Right. Yeah, shout to Jalise. You got her. You had her that compliment with class. and shout so ITT Tech and everyone that's got to Crees there because I know, Romeo. You feel like with that being said,
Starting point is 03:14:02 Philip Diemah of meeting. Welcome to the membership tier. Below 44. Shout out Ricky for calling that back out. Tam crazy. It's 2025. Every black person doesn't come from odds
Starting point is 03:14:13 that make it rare to be a pilot or a doctor. Google the wealth gap and come back. No, no, that's some black doctors, though. It's more black doctors than pilots. Bro, fucking Cliff Huxable is a doctor. There's been doctors for a minute. The fuck is y'all talking about.
Starting point is 03:14:31 Tony Bro. Again, that's the homie, though. He said grades are the only part of admissions. Harvard ended affirmative action of legacy emissions. Went up. Go figure. But only a 4% drop. It means that maybe there's still a lot of capable admins regardless of...
Starting point is 03:14:48 He was about to say it, huh? You're not to say it. What would have been a good place to use it. Eastside Trays, y'all are scary. Then there's the emoji I'm not going to say for letting Adam get away with the city. A silly lie. Affirmative action was implemented because we was discriminated against up until the 1960s. To speak on that or whatever, I definitely asked Adam.
Starting point is 03:15:13 I said, are you talking about the selection process or you talk about their intelligence level or whatever? If you know what I mean. And he didn't slight the intelligence level. Like the legacies and those things have a, uh, um, a, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a factor in college emissions. I think everyone in the room pushed back against that. And he did come back and clean it up and say that affirmative action was created to help descendants of slaves specifically and everybody else came and you know
Starting point is 03:15:36 Adar Nacho. I ugly money. You sure did throw that out out there. But on no jumper, anything Adam say, they go, it's on Atlanta on the blacks in this building to challenge them. Oh, for sure. So they go get on our bumper. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:15:54 And that's just been a thing. I can't, you know, if I hear something I don't agree with, I'm going to say something. No, no one agreed with his statement. It was pretty fucking asinine. That is just a program. And they get used to it. Like, because I get, I get DM, and they pressing me to press Adam about certain shit. Like, I'm like, okay, I guess the responsibility lands on the black centers building.
Starting point is 03:16:13 Because if they say something, Adam disagreed with, like, we're supposed to get on them? I'll even shoot out of him some bail. I feel like, if anything. But you're a white boy. You can't shoot him no way. No, I'll shoot him to bail. I'll shoot him to bail as a white boy. So it ain't going to land right.
Starting point is 03:16:26 I'm telling you it might not could, but I still go on because. Go ahead with the bill. Because I feel like he starts conversations for the sake of debate. So whether or not he fully, if he agrees with that, he's wrong. We told him he was wrong regardless, you feel me? But I don't know if it's in his heart of heart. He genuinely believes that. It ain't for the sake of debate.
Starting point is 03:16:45 I think at this point he had better in our culture. He just happened to be a white boy. So he's talking our talk. So, but he being white, that's. It's, I guess, a conflict of interest when it comes to the content world. And then, you know, the black people will get the backlash. You got these, the crackhead from Compton Crip that's going to get on me and Anton. Or you go, like, it's just different shit.
Starting point is 03:17:07 You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, I'm used to it. But, look, 100%. And then there's, they're going to for show a trip on a white boy. Like, look, bro, I get a lot of shit. But guess what? You feel of me? He comes with the territory.
Starting point is 03:17:20 Thank you for making me a guest, for allowing me to be a guest in the culture and all that shit. You feel me? But you know, the thing, like, you can push back and not get nasty or disrespectful. You know what I'm saying? Of course. I think everybody, you know, set a piece or whatever. I mean, I'm not about to disrespect a man in his home no matter what he say.
Starting point is 03:17:36 You know, and if it get too disrespectful or whatever, I excuse myself. But, uh, now, we all said, we all, hey, what exactly did you mean by that? I think those conversations are hard to have people hear a lot of talking points that are, like, similar. And people take little words out here and there and it'll be like just a little bit incorrect. That's why I was like, I wouldn't say IQ. You feel me? Like you don't want to use words like that. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 03:17:58 That's what I said. That's what I'm like. You're talking about you. No, because exactly. And that's what that's the word that made my ears perk up because that refers to intelligence quotient. That's something that you're born with. Pete, no Thursday show. This is how you have debates.
Starting point is 03:18:10 You feel me? We had a couple of fiery moments this podcast. We had a couple of disagreements. Well, we got down to the bottom of it and it was a good podcast. Unlike that shit. We didn't try to get to the bottom of it, but, but you know. Unlike that shit. But, but everybody on Thursday.
Starting point is 03:18:21 I will say this about that. Let me, let me fire off a couple shots. I'm out of you. Yeah, exactly. I will say this. I got to the bottom of what was really going on with the Thursday show. We're going to talk about it on Thursday. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:18:34 That's what you say. Help. I need to come over to here. I've been telling them to put me on a Thursday show. It's kind of a cornerball. It's a lot. It's blocking, bro. Mr. John Doe said,
Starting point is 03:18:45 wait a minute, how much you doing shit for the chat if Munchy can't even read that motherfucker. Right. Yeah. And it's been demoted to bottom with Ricky Brandon and the lease. What that got to? do with anything because you do a lot of shit because you can't see that. I don't mean nothing now.
Starting point is 03:18:58 But hold on, but, well, but, but, don't do that, bro. How am I entertaining the chat and I'm not watching me? The reason why I'm saying you entertaining the chats because you were saying that, oh, I'm pottin. And so I know the chats. No, I'm going to tell me.
Starting point is 03:19:11 Listen to me. Listen to me. Let me tell you why I said what I said, bro. So I said that you're doing it for the chats because that's what the chats want to see. They want me to go back and forth with you. They want to see us carry on. who you did it. You kept saying the same shit.
Starting point is 03:19:26 I told you, I said you got your opinion, bro, and I got my opinion. You just said at the beginning. Bro. I mean, yeah. You got, you got excited from the beginning.
Starting point is 03:19:35 Bro, who got this? Bro, you're trying to challenge me. You're trying to challenge me. You're trying to challenge me and once it started getting loud and we was going back and forth. I said, look, Munchy, I got my opinion.
Starting point is 03:19:46 You got your opinion about it. You said, no, fuck that. And you wanted to keep on going. Come on, bro. What? We're going to have to run the tape back. Running back What you want to bed?
Starting point is 03:19:55 Let's bet Let's bet Renton the K and O'Dark Tate back You're gonna I'm saying it for 1919 This thing is crazy I'm saying it for
Starting point is 03:20:04 1995 Man, what's in that bottle Diggas Nick Craig talking about Come on Man that's how you know That homie I don't want to hear
Starting point is 03:20:10 Nothing about that blind shit Brut He said don't even try to pull that one I don't hear nothing about that Nick I don't give a fuck about the motherfucking Ted Nick
Starting point is 03:20:16 Don't tell you no care about that But now but now with somebody Make a reference to it He's gonna say right The check Nig nigga Tinninninninn
Starting point is 03:20:22 Tinn against everybody You know what I'm out. No, no, no. It ain't about no, the chat go turn against everybody. Everybody go out of their turn. Of course. Nick, period. I see it.
Starting point is 03:20:31 I'm gonna fucking by no motherfucking shit. I've been getting, I've been getting stomped out. 50 balls every week. But I didn't have my time. Bro, everybody go to, bro, everybody go to that tumble with this chat. Yeah, for sure. It's gonna come. Period.
Starting point is 03:20:42 I don't give a fuck about the motherfucking chat. Niggia, come on, bro. It's not even just the chat. They be doing, they'd be doing a foul with fucking thumbnails and titles. Man, that's true. I don't give a fuck what they do. Exactly. It's just content.
Starting point is 03:20:54 Y'all superstars, man. But that don't define me. I don't care about none of that shit. Y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all frieck is talking about. I got caught with two guns. I was in all this little weird shit I got. I was in the backseat with two niggas. I'm fastening their pants.
Starting point is 03:21:06 I don't care about none of that shit. Niggit, I just talking about. What we're talking about in the room is what we're talking about. I don't care about a chat or nobody outside making content, fuck them. Nick, I, I go at them on my own time. Whatever. I ain't, I ain't fucking, fucking chat because y'all the viewers. You know, y'all sent a super chat.
Starting point is 03:21:28 And that's the only reason why the chat's talking shit because of what I said. That's the only reason why they're talking shit. We made us. Come on, bro. Come on, it's the only reason why they're talking shit. But I don't care, though. I don't know.
Starting point is 03:21:42 But however, I'll perform on the couch that got nothing to do with a chat, I don't care about that sheet, bro. I didn't hurt the worst of the worst and all the little weird shit, bro. I don't give a fuck about what nobody in the chat talking about. If it's good or bad, I'm going to go and leave and do the content I do regardless. Whatever they're talking about in the chat, ain't going to affect that. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 03:22:02 The chat is going to hurt feelings if you let it. You feel, me? No, man, but listen, bro. And I don't think you would, Munchy. That's not my, I don't think you would, bro. I don't give a fuck. My thing, I was making a comparison. And I don't have to chat off of me watching ant content, and I'm at a comparison from this.
Starting point is 03:22:19 It is. He's talking about the chat. That's not that's not that. This is also Mr. John Doe leaving Super Chat's trying to search it up. What's up, John Doe? Shots off John Doe. Baby Chad also said, she's awesome. Please keep this sister.
Starting point is 03:22:35 Don't nobody do no weird shit. Keep away from Sus and Brandon, please. They're going to scream at her. I don't think she's scared to get screamed. No, no, no, no. I think Tam could go. I need Tam and Brandon on the same sheet. Matter of fact, Tam, what you do in Thursday?
Starting point is 03:22:50 Yeah, no, because Tan could do her shit with Brennan. For sure. Damn. Because like, Oh yeah, Lush didn't want me to come and, uh,
Starting point is 03:22:57 handle his lightweight. Type shit. You feel me? Like, because, because I feel like, like really. I nominate Tim,
Starting point is 03:23:03 bro. I got smoke for Brandon. Hey, please have Tim on the Thursday show and she could combat this dude, Brandon. And look, this is why I want to take Brandon phone.
Starting point is 03:23:14 Because he'd be typing, trying to, trying to fact check. Brandon, you got 24 hours to respond. You got 24 hours to respond. What? What?
Starting point is 03:23:21 Tam had him on my heavy. weight because you fat as fuck I just feel like it'll hit a little bit different like at the end of the day I don't think that a lot of the talking points that Tam and I make would be considerably different and like she might be more educated
Starting point is 03:23:35 but I just think it's going to hit a lot different coming from her. No but but see see you send more insults and she's going to come with more factual action. You just got to have stamina with Brandon bro. I was about to send Brandon a video today to debate some shit we was talking about I said I haven't got the energy for this. Let me just go ahead
Starting point is 03:23:51 get some rest before I had to hop on Not because at the end of the day, anything I say could be like, what are you talking about, white boy? You don't know, like, who are you to speak about? I won't want to debate here with the nigger. I won't let the fight. You got knocked down. But you could get back up.
Starting point is 03:24:10 Hold on, hold on, hold on. I've been knocked down before. I was there. I was there. I was there. I was there. I was there. I was there.
Starting point is 03:24:15 Oh, shit. I'm not here to defend or protect anybody, but I will say that that wasn't a damn knockout or anything. I said he got knocked down. He slipped. No, he did. Yeah, bro, I was the nigga that was in the money. First of the second time for both.
Starting point is 03:24:29 He slipped both times from what I saw. Okay, all right. The first time, the first time clearly. I think he said he slipped one time and got knocked down one time. I think he admitted that. The first time it was a clear slip. That's the one that I was hosting. He was a clear slip.
Starting point is 03:24:45 And then the second one, he came out of his shoes. So I thought it was a slip, too. Man, why he ain't wearing shoes that fit on? If I'll hit you and I'll hit you and I make you come. I'm not saying, Hey, Brandon, I ain't gonna let them do it until you, dog. You come out of your shoe
Starting point is 03:24:56 and you fall, like, what are you talking about? But it looks like, it looks like one of those because the second one, they were really, like, leaning in on each other, like super duper, like, and it just looked like,
Starting point is 03:25:06 one of them came and then he, he got to let's go out. Because I'll have you coming out of your shoes. I think he had forces on. I have some vans on. I don't have no vans on with you. He has a white force. He had been out of the way.
Starting point is 03:25:16 I'm watching it from the camera. Yeah. No, I was right there. The first one, he definitely slipped. No, they were locking up for him. He was fighting in crooks. No, he shows you too big.
Starting point is 03:25:27 And then after he slipped, right, I'm on the mic or whatever, talking about Dow goes crazy and Mikey ass, mush my ass. I'm like, I didn't even realize I got mushed. I'm like, I look back. I'm like, my brother, don't let him do you like that. I'm like, bro, I didn't even realize that shit. He came out of the crowd. Yeah, he came out of the Slayer.
Starting point is 03:25:45 Slayer, Slayer, Slayer. He must. He must. Hey, I had. I had to send him home. I was fucking hilarious. I thought what you, Mike, you know. All right, Joshua Stevens.
Starting point is 03:25:55 It could have dropped 4% because of discrimination as well. They could be denying people that deserve it. Now, that's an interesting point, Joshua. I like that. I like that. Healthy skepticism. You would call me like a coping ass motherfucker if I said some shit like that.
Starting point is 03:26:08 No, I would it. I said that the 4% could be any variable. I said that already. Okay. I agree with the overall point. So I'm not going to make this. I'll go to die on right now. I'm fucking with it.
Starting point is 03:26:18 I'm fucking. That nigga got them T-I words for your ass, bro. I'm a little pup compared to T-I and shit. He'd be breaking out. Expenditious. He really talked like that in real life, man. You really have a regular conversation with that, that nigga.
Starting point is 03:26:32 That nigga really talked like that. Bro, let me talk colloquialism. And you just used one. You just used one. Shout out to Munch you with the SAT words. That's a great word. That's crazy. Muckuckin' smoking with T.I.
Starting point is 03:26:46 Regular conversation. Like, yeah, man. Look, Shody, that dude, fuck me up. but dishes, bro. Yeah, yeah. Hey,
Starting point is 03:26:51 man, what, bro? It's not that different from Mazi for being honest. No, Mahzie got stupid slang.
Starting point is 03:26:59 Yeah, but that's how they talk in the Bay. Like, if you know, even though Sacramento's not really the Bay, it's the start,
Starting point is 03:27:04 it's the starting point of Northern California, but they still call it the Bay. But a lot of dudes, if you've been around dudes from Oakland, you've been around dudes from Richmond,
Starting point is 03:27:12 and they all got their different slang and talk, then from we use, you might say, like, they're the first dudes, I heard,
Starting point is 03:27:19 say, air it out when we were still saying on a nigga bust don't do this and that. Like I'm talking to my boy. He's like, yeah, boy, you know what I'm saying? I'm in a whip, wow. I'm like, air the boy out. I'm like, air him out.
Starting point is 03:27:28 They invented a lot of the slays. Yeah, and they're all of it. Hey, hey, I got a song. Amazia, I'm sending to you, though. Oh, shit that. Oh, shit. What? I don't inklewood.
Starting point is 03:27:37 Dude, that. That sounds, that's not a hard as hell. The crazy thing, though. I'll be sliding on shit on family games. That full, Mazi, even he'll say something simple like, hey, the girl, the bitch gave me the car, but it'll be like, hey, she provided the vehicle. You feel me?
Starting point is 03:27:50 Like, like, that's how Mazi talk. Hey, no, Mazzi one of my, like, my top five rappers, bro. Mazzi goes, real. Mazzi goes stupid, though. And people might disagree. Like, he gave me Tupac Vise because who, who admitting that their mom was on cracky, incubator baby and all that?
Starting point is 03:28:08 Like, mom was a cracker. I mean, like, who, who embraced that and talk about it? Everybody else is shame. Mazzie, uh, Mazzie. Black Panther, Grandma. He got, Tupac got the mama, Black Panther, like... He got complete projects with Nip.
Starting point is 03:28:23 Like, that's the level he's on. He, he... He got a complete project with Lipp. Mazzie. A project? Hell yeah. Brother, they had the whole project. Oh, I'm off of me.
Starting point is 03:28:31 I didn't know. Y'all had a level. You got wrong. Knuckles ain't scarred enough, hard enough. I like that shit. They did a whole, like, a whole little tape that came out, right? I never heard of that shit in my life.
Starting point is 03:28:41 Yeah. They have several collapse. Anyways, you feel me? Um, shit is fire. Shots of... Mazzie and Munchy would have joined. We definitely need to slap that. Skinn Christ said,
Starting point is 03:28:51 Munchy, you hear the No Jumper Robbery Remix? What happened to Brian Pumper? The No Jumper Robbery Remix is hilarious. Jason Tate became a member, Mr. John Doe. Charlamaine Doe got feminine ways. He compared him to N. I don't want to just keep, like, bleeding. Hey, I don't know Jumper Robby Remix.
Starting point is 03:29:11 I mean, if Enca do it and he mad, nigg-nigig, I robbed him for the two stacks in his chain, he could come back and niggie man he's gonna rob me like fuck i might just keep on and rob everybody else like no he'll he come up with that series good music coming out the office right now i think i think a lot of good music coming out the office on booking shit i know everyone kind of going crazy we all kind of going crazy right on going on come out of retirement yeah you come out of retirement i don't me hear that shit i'm like we need some some uh some wavy shit in here you feel me i'm not gonna be saying too much you know the hard producers already shit right the way baby yeah is
Starting point is 03:29:45 No, this fool name Adam had said, I'm canceling my membership of ugly money doesn't become a recurring host. That's real. Ugly Gurb. Go ahead, go ahead, get a spot. I'll be back. I'll be back.
Starting point is 03:29:56 Long as lush answer the phone, I'll come back. Bring the damn soundboard, bro. We need the soundboard on deck as well. Sure. It's going to hit different. Oh, my God. King Jeffrey Jofer said, that'll go crazy.
Starting point is 03:30:07 That'll be fun. We already addressed to this comment. I said, why don't we have one, man? Uh, Jay didn't have a problem with Kim signing to the label. It was over Dam. came the vice president while Jay was on, yeah, but he wasn't fucking
Starting point is 03:30:19 with him like that, bro. We're talking about that. But I kept saying he was on vacation and he signed somebody. He did. It's the vice president thing. Exactly. That's what I was saying. Right.
Starting point is 03:30:27 No one didn't say that. Jay, Jay, he was gone when he did the vice president's shit when he came back. That's when he found out about it. Like, what the fuck going on? So he was going during the signer or the vice president's shit. But it was all within a very,
Starting point is 03:30:39 the same, all that shit. It was in a short period of time. The same, like around the same time. Very short period of time. it looked at a certain way that was even listen man I love how these stories are coming out even now like to this day like Cam
Starting point is 03:30:58 retelling it and shit on it is what it is or talk with Lee that's the best shit like it's so cool it's so dope it took Jay talking he ain't go never talk oh yeah yeah you know what I'm saying and when you are Billy up you ain't got to talk no more you feel me what the fuck you talk when it because it'll hold a lot more gravity
Starting point is 03:31:14 uh... Jeremy romance for his seventh month as a member. He sent my new song, Terminal Velasi out on YouTube exclusively. New album out November 14th, 100. Respect y'all. Jeremy Romance is a long time. That's a smart way to get a drop.
Starting point is 03:31:30 That's smart, way. That's a great marketing strategy. We support it and the new music. Let's run it up. Adam also said, Anna is jealous of Munchy V. Spokane dudes can't be trusted. And is a pelican,
Starting point is 03:31:40 keep your eye on him, Munchy. A pelican about what and jealous about what? Not a here. I don't even know what. A pelican about what. wasn't jealous about what. And this is the second we heard about a pelican,
Starting point is 03:31:50 but what do the pelican symbolize? I don't understand why they keep saying that. It don't matter what is seminars, but you keep saying like a pelican, I'm jealous, how I'm jealous of a nigga that asks me a question, a nigga that inserted himself and asked me to stand on what the fuck I was talking about.
Starting point is 03:32:06 How the fuck of him I'm jealous of a nigga that's asking me a question? I just want to know what the pelican symbolize because this is the second week. It's a pelican shit. He's alluding to some, I don't know. I'm a Googling it.
Starting point is 03:32:16 This Eastside trade. guy. I'm not going to do the cuds anymore, bro. I can't. You feel me? A cut crying Jalise on Tuesday show. An ugly cut from the ATL. Need to be a regular. I agree. Is that that shit we're talking about again that I don't be knowing about when he put the ugly being regular I could get behind. He just, yeah, he'd be talking all type of slang. We're, we're going to be understanding. Appreciate you, dog. Appreciate you. He usually an header and then the BMX
Starting point is 03:32:43 nick is a much eater. And then I forget the nigga that's a Ricky hair. He got a Mr. John Dole. You got a new man, John Dole, and then it's one that's for, for, for, for, for man, I could, I could like, everybody on my first YouTube video. He said, my boy, I said, this nigga is crap. He was my first comment ever on YouTube, bro. I said, a salute, bro. And these motherfuckers, though, we have no time and really be watching you.
Starting point is 03:33:09 When you get a troller, they stick to your eyes. That's, that's, that's, they got your notification. I appreciate him, no. No, for sure. He made me laugh for that shit, though. I'm not gonna lie. I don't know if he's subscribed, but that shit made me laugh.
Starting point is 03:33:19 That shit, that shit took me out, that shit's a deal. My header ain't tucked in the minute. The b-MX thing ain't touching them. Hey, bro, I used to say this all the time, bro, they hate it.
Starting point is 03:33:29 Jesus. Me and you don't stand a chance, you know what I mean? No, me, though. And a lot of times that the same people that I see me very vocal
Starting point is 03:33:39 negatively about me would be like very supportive. No, they did, yeah. You can flip them type of shit. It's all funny games. Bully breakers. That y'all sound. crazy euphoria was nuts i make music that electrify him you make music that pacify him
Starting point is 03:33:51 could double down to that live but you spread it this time it was a precursor to not like us w dot um 15 a content said i'm with and for sure they tripping dot was never down foe oh i mean i don't think he was either i think that you know there he was down there's arguably yeah there's arguably an edge for drake but i'll be tripping tell me four oh especially when you have the only charting number one record before in the beef it's difficult to say down 4-0. Oh, y'all just be pulling out every stop for the man. I'm talking about the beat.
Starting point is 03:34:22 He was potentially losing. I'll say that. G. G. became a member for three months that. Kendrick dropped, I believe, only six months after. That's crazy. That shit was crazy. Mr. Mag release. That's a crazy name.
Starting point is 03:34:35 I fucks for it. Need a Phil 22, Vlad TV interview because Wack ruined that shit. Super frustrating to see Papa 22, understanding Wax's lack of interviewing skill. So for context, the most recent episode of the Adam and Wack show. Bro, Wack is a horrible interviewer, bro.
Starting point is 03:34:54 He's there. He's there for shock. He's there for shock by you to make up lies. And that's it. I actually haven't watched this yet. And I want to. Okay. So what interview have you watched that,
Starting point is 03:35:05 that Wack did? That was a good interview. Whoa. I mean, because for an interview, you got to let somebody talk. You hear them out. You respond.
Starting point is 03:35:15 You talk. Y'all conversing. you're not trying to talk the whole shit I'm what I'm saying So is he just been game to Adam's pops Or did he like uh I didn't watch that dumb shit Bro because I already know what they expect
Starting point is 03:35:28 Wack it is an ignorant motherfucker that just lie He said no one's named in the indictment And she's never she's not in there He never seen it because it don't exist He just he just he sat on the camera with Adam And lie And make up lies And sit there ballheaded with a crater face and lie
Starting point is 03:35:45 So I'm saying he just just a shock value nigga he's no different from the boot game niggie or loose canning what about what's the name didn't he sit on the podcast with us and basically say that double down and say the same shit and we don't know what we're talking about at m richie you say he said he said what then i said did he sit on the podcast with us and like kind of like basically said the same thing pertaining to that little situation with um with nova and um pfo yeah well he atin richie is a weirdo and he the first one to to to to to even put her in a conversation with this indictment.
Starting point is 03:36:20 He, and, he has, he's a completely innocent man, and he's only in his self-adicted with all the things he's saying. He's nuts. He got a problem. Like,
Starting point is 03:36:32 I don't know what's wrong with him. Yeah, because I was confused by what he was saying, too, because it seemed like he, like, it sounded like to me, and I could be, that he contradicted himself.
Starting point is 03:36:41 You, you, you putting this little girl on somebody, that's supposed to be a hungry, bro and like yeah it's talking about yeah she got something to do with him but i didn't ran through the paperwork and it don't line up this girl is 15 now this man victim was 16 at the time and he was 21 at the time and that was two years ago so like that's what i'm saying he he he he 18 richie got a problem with clout he wanted attention and that's what that shit is bro like
Starting point is 03:37:10 anything it shouldn't be taken serious well i couldn't tell if he's being supportive of pfo or not Like it seems like I don't know how you could bro you're not being supportive of me of me if you're saying a nigga
Starting point is 03:37:22 oh muchy yeah you said he didn't kill him yeah but he didn't kill him right but so much you didn't murder him
Starting point is 03:37:28 right right but then immediately after but then like literally within five minutes being like oh I ain't going to say shit da da da
Starting point is 03:37:36 nah no you can't take it back bro bro you bro you got bro
Starting point is 03:37:40 cloud is a drug bro and it's fucking it's fucking it's fucking people what bro like this attention-sicking shit is getting out of the hand.
Starting point is 03:37:48 Nicky, oh, bro. Yeah, you really can't blame it on the podcast. It's crazy. No, it's the person, bro. And I'm like, how do you do that when you know they pick him motherfuckers up from that work here? Maybe they didn't pick them up from here. This thing is. A nigga, nigga, nigga, we did just a renegade and minors.
Starting point is 03:38:05 We tied people with cold shit. Niggins. Fuck Nova in their bitch-ass mama. Bro. I don't even watch the whole shit. Let's just say if Nova was a victim or a, uh, a, uh, a victim or, uh, witness which I don't believe nigga you you incriminating
Starting point is 03:38:19 your homie quote unquote homie and you make your bro bro he's gonna be in daddy soon this richie boy he's a dummy he's completely innocent and having did nothing but he's making itself look very guilty of a lot of things and he's going to be a coca spurt or whatever the fuck you want to call it oh casperter
Starting point is 03:38:37 that that nigga come on if I'm a detective I'm for sure giving that guy call it a certain point like anything I said on this spot was completely for entertainment purposes. But you ain't said on this podcast. Anything that I said on this podcast is completely entertainment purposes.
Starting point is 03:38:52 Don't come look for me fans. I'm AI. Man, hey, look, bro. I exist on a computer chip. I'm careful for everything I say on here, bro. And I ain't said nothing to incriminate myself. It was a motherfucking, what's that shit? Uh, uh, uh, uh, what's that you want to call that shit?
Starting point is 03:39:08 A fake gun. A prop gun. A prop. I had a prop on me. For sure. And whack he wanted to point it out with his old bitch ass. I'm on bloods knowing I got a case going on. Yeah, he said, shut up, bitch.
Starting point is 03:39:20 I was a prop. I don't want to be on club, house. Nicky, that was a prop, nigga. Just like you had a prop badge, it was a prop gun. Nicky, that wasn't real dummy. But anyways, nigga, like, bro, people get on here and say some stupid shit for clout. And it's crazy, bro. It ain't that important because you're not going to get rich doing that, bro.
Starting point is 03:39:38 I don't know what people, it's going to be their next moment. Like you, Holly Berry or Disney Washington in your next film. No. I'm always saying in 2017, bro, like, I don't know what happened. It was a clout disease. 2017. Yeah, 2017 is like when everything changed. I feel like that's when you get like boong gang and all those people, right?
Starting point is 03:39:55 There's definitely like. Crazy shit to get famous and shit like that. I was locked up. I was in the fed. Something happened, bro. Like every rapper was making selfie videos, talking shit about other rappers. I can't speak on it. He said a lot of crazy shit was going on.
Starting point is 03:40:08 So y'all, y'all watching social media. Like at that time in the feds, I ain't had no phones. You have a phone? You have a phone? I was at a 2007. everything I was like TV and what the fuck I was hearing over the phone. Hey, you didn't miss nothing.
Starting point is 03:40:19 There was a bunch of bullshit. You would have been very disappointed. Ask on my kids, bro. I got stories I could tell and recite about people and two people that work here now from the past. That's embarrassing I could tell and for the sake of cloud or content.
Starting point is 03:40:35 I'm not doing that. Like people, they need to knock this weird shit off, bro. If you can't do content just off the stream, you just don't got it. If you got to dig us, like, Like, no, you, you ain't got it. You should be talented enough to not have to rely on things that are tacky like that.
Starting point is 03:40:52 No, I don't know. No, no, no. The shit, I know about people because I, bro, it's not a lie, but I'm not talking about it. For what? Because I got other things I could do and I can monetize off of what, why would I do that? I respect that. It's desperate. It's desperate measures.
Starting point is 03:41:07 So this 18 and Richie nigger is like, oh, yeah, yeah, he, you're making this thing of people okay, look guilty. and he not. Because the person that's a minor in this case, quote unquote, it's not even the same age that don't line up with this little girl Nova. Well,
Starting point is 03:41:23 it does make it. The white is a little girl a bitch anyway and threatening her and she's a kid. Nicky guys gangbangers with ganges. We ain't doing that. What are you talking about? But then apparently it was all a joke. And then like,
Starting point is 03:41:35 well, take that Medea shit somewhere else, Nicky. Because this is a serious situation. That's what I'm saying. People mix content up with reality. For real. life. Like, you can't mix both of them, bro. You got to separate the two.
Starting point is 03:41:48 It's a lot of shit I can talk about, but I don't. And I can't. How ha, ha, how about it? And now, I don't. About people in this office, including Adam. And I know, and I know Adam will give a fuck about it so I ain't going to do that. Come on, bro. You got to separate the shit. Nigget, nigga. Everybody want to be clowns and entertainers, bro. And that ain't it. And that bitch-ass-knick is one of them.
Starting point is 03:42:13 Everything is not a joke. Everybody's not a fucking snitch. Oh, a rat, a rar, snitch and snitch. All this little, bro, everybody's not gay and everybody's not a snitch. And niggas don't stop playing. And when somebody get hurt, they're going to learn. Damn, everybody is not gay.
Starting point is 03:42:27 This is a fact. And I think that. No, for real, nigga, no, bro. Everything is not entertainment. They need to stop this shit. They need to, they can separate content from reality. Niggit, you know what the fuck going on. And if niggas want to be popular or get notoriety that much,
Starting point is 03:42:44 whatever, rich your life. Somebody's gonna smack your ass, bro. I'm telling you, niggas be playing. Definitely be played, but I ain't gonna leave a lot. I think it already a way too far down the rabbit hole. Like as far as content and reality, niggas already a versed to two. Niggas talking about, you got dickens talking about
Starting point is 03:43:00 YouTube, the new TV. It is, though, though, key. I mean, this shit like a reality show to me. Like, I'm from the outside looking in, you know what I'm saying? Unless you really hear, shit, a lot of motherfuckers get the perspective that a lot of shit around, No Jumper is sending around plays or it's plays.
Starting point is 03:43:17 Yeah. Like in a lot of reality TV, I think reality TV, though they send it's reality. I think a lot of that shit is plays. It might be some reality in their real life situations and moments that's going on, but I think they do enact plays and fights.
Starting point is 03:43:30 And I ain't never been a part of no play at no jumper. Right. Where person, like, I never, like, whatever happens. I ain't been a part of a play period. I'm saying I ain't been part of play period either. I do my own channel. I cut in No Jumper. But I'm just saying it's we speaking about No Jumper.
Starting point is 03:43:44 So, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people feel that it's plays that go on here, and I'll just be laughing like, man, anything I got no jumper that I've been a part of. That shit has just happened. Ain't been no play or a motherfucker with brief or something. Yeah, like, oh, yeah, you're going in and it's going to be this. You know, like, nah.
Starting point is 03:43:58 Bro, we'd be pulling up five minutes before the pop, bro, like all of us. Freestyle. And I get there earlier, it would be five minutes before the five, pull it up, take it fixed. Now we got the boobos, though, so we'll see what happens. So when y' y'all get the scrapping and shit be going down, that shit be out of no way. Like, when shit pop, what shit pop.
Starting point is 03:44:16 When she pops and stuff? Yeah, like the craziest shit, I've been a part of here where that shit happened with a suspect and breading. Like, that shit was, like, really happening in this motherfucker. Like, when they went up and I'm trying to fight each other, like, yeah, that shit really happened. I ain't been a part of a single play. Okay.
Starting point is 03:44:34 Type shit, you feel me? So, Mr. John Doe say. Don't put me in y'all, anybody want to play. Don't play with me. Hey, don't play with me. us make place with us. Hey, bro, I'm here the podcast, bro. Exactly.
Starting point is 03:44:47 And do content and that's it and go home on bloods. I ain't part of no place. And I don't want to be tough for nobody. Exactly. And for anybody, this is not a mean place to get bracken with. Because I'm very, I'm very, I'm outside, bro, like Englewoods, House and you. Yeah. So this ain't the place, bro.
Starting point is 03:45:06 Because what I believe, I'm going to say, I think the police looking at this motherfucker. I don't think nobody. Oh, shot. It's a fess, but they, they're watching this shit. And you come here and go to jail if you want to, whatever. But, but whatever, nigga, but, but, but, but I'm not a part of no place. And if you play with me, I don't say too much. Don't say too much to it.
Starting point is 03:45:28 Hey, I'll say too much to it. Hey, I'll be fresh as hell of the fads watching. Without being said, Mr. John. Mr. John Doe said, Ricky the meek mill of podcasting, fire. Keep it up, brother. That's fucking hilarious, dog. He did not mean that in a nice way. I know.
Starting point is 03:45:47 I thought he was trying to salute. Okay. I might try that one out. Hey, dreams of nightmare is me, all right? Chill out. Shit, I fuck. Should I beat out? Meek.
Starting point is 03:45:56 Yeah, I was going to say, that was a copy. He didn't mean it good, though. He did. Besides all that little fake shit and plays, they were trying to put in the public with him and Puffy, nigga, me, go. Yeah, the fake plays were kind of wild. Fuck with me. JP sports bar and grill with a Canadian
Starting point is 03:46:13 Cinco. P says shout out everyone and no jumper except Brandon Big Up JP Sports Bar and Grill Mr. John Doe says Stop talking about Doug before that Big one fucking started yelling
Starting point is 03:46:27 I got one finally! I was waiting on one I was like damn I ain't getting no digs These are bro-ho life be on the internet But they don't do this internet shit Fool's gonna leave and post videos tonight and tomorrow Appreciate you Mr. John Doe So that's what you're so dumb at so when motherfuckers say they don't do the internet
Starting point is 03:46:45 or me speaking for myself and I don't say to do the internet I don't go by what y'all go by like the internet rules that y'all go by and the shit y'all be on done the plot of me I do what I do I drop content and keep it moving. You the internet motherfucker because you
Starting point is 03:46:58 the one on here watching me got my notifications on and just watching a man like I know you're, I know a lot of you dudes women be mad like why y'all got A-Hef-A-on why y'all keep watching him and y'all hate it.
Starting point is 03:47:09 That's like explain that shit like for real I don't watch none of y'all I don't watch social media. I just do it. That's the cold shit about it, though. I just do it and get a bag from it. That's the difference for me and y'all, though, and any nigga talking.
Starting point is 03:47:21 Okay, you're spinning right now. I ain't going to live. Nelson bars. DJ, DJ said, weird how Munchy B genuinely like Ann HEPA, but I don't think the feeling is mutual. Richie Vidd said the sexual tension between them is crazy, dead homies. I don't know who them is.
Starting point is 03:47:39 I don't think that was related to anything that. Like, bro, y'all, that's what I'd be telling with these chat. I think that whatever time we were talking about something. It might have been something with Tam and somebody else, bro. I'm assuming we're going to shoot him some bail. That was for Tam. DJ, DJ, I said, Munchy B, Wack 100, Soulja,
Starting point is 03:47:59 and Heppe don't like your sensitive, sleepy thug. Richie Vitz said, Wack must have made that call. This guy, John Doe going crazy in the car. He said, should be cool when I talk about Ricky. My motherfuckers want to spare ant feelings. Cool. Ricky, I apologize, but whenever speak on you again since we pick it and choosing.
Starting point is 03:48:20 Spare he. Spare he feelings. You can't spare aunt feelings. That's the thing. You can't spare aunt feelings. You can't spare my motherfucking feeling. He's, so there's been, I will say this. I don't know who's retracting.
Starting point is 03:48:30 I don't know of a no-jumper mod or is he doing it himself. But this is now $30. Two different Mr. John Doe super chats are now gone. And that's about $30? Yeah. Somebody. I don't know what. happens when it's retracted.
Starting point is 03:48:44 I never did Super Chaz. I don't know. He might have took it down himself. He might could have. Nas clutch. He sent five just for the love of the game. Is that it? We appreciate.
Starting point is 03:48:56 Chaucas is actually, Sharsen to Seer Jones. With that being said, Tam, thank you so much. We definitely need. You're welcome as soon as you want to come back. You as well.
Starting point is 03:49:06 I got to make a shout-out. I got a long way. I came a long way. And I got a long way to go. First and foremost, I got a shout of my brother, Slunk. He's from the Bay, you know what I'm saying? He's the one that really got me in tune
Starting point is 03:49:16 with the whole no jump of universe. So, shout's out slumpster and my whole ugly money family, everybody in the ATL, man, it's love. I got to follow up on you. Man, sure, let me give a shout-off before we go, man. Shout out, man, to the person on my team, Dreher de Virgo that'll be working my channel,
Starting point is 03:49:31 you know what I'm saying? Shows and shit, you feel. Okay, Dre, Dre, don't know everything. She'd be making moves. They'd be trying to hate, trying to get the kid up out of there, you know what I'm saying? She'd be on her work, so, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:49:40 shout out her, man. James hard. Let me shout out my producer, Tommy Paparazzi. You got that betting joke, right? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Tommy Paparazzi, man.
Starting point is 03:49:52 He gets you right. Y'all know, I got kidnapped and went to the feds last month because they, whatever. My YouTube channel got shut down, but the new one, morals over money TV. Morals over money TV. Everybody tap in and subscribe and all that little shit on B team. They get on family games. Subscribe to the mayor of Inglewood, please. Yeah, morals over money TV.
Starting point is 03:50:13 I'm saying it three times. Morals over money TV. That's a new new. You feel like to be here. Go ahead and subscribe. They don't they hate it. Took the last channel, go tap in the British subscribers back up.
Starting point is 03:50:22 They said I got, I got curious, dark figure. What about, what about Tam? What's like the best way to chat? What's up, Tamerli? I got YouTube at Time to Time TV. That's also my Twitter. And my Instagram is my name, Tamerlin.
Starting point is 03:50:37 Somebody put it in the chat. So shout out to you for spelling my name correctly. Okay, Tamer. And I'm almost at 100K on. on YouTube. So if y'all just come over there, I'm gonna get your plaques. Damn. Hey 10, you're 100K on YouTube? Almost, yeah.
Starting point is 03:50:47 That's amazing. I'm like an 87 right now, so pull up on me. Just post a lot of shorts. No, appreciate. You post shorts. I post shorts all the time. Yeah, you put it up. Okay, I think about to pull up on you like some pennies.
Starting point is 03:50:57 Yeah. Not that long. I'm shouting on it up. I think we need to sign Tam for being honest. For sure. Hey, no, no, no, no. I'm advocating for tan for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:51:08 With that being said, pulling up this Thursday, right? For sure. If she's down, I would love to have her. All you got to do is look up. Lush one, MacArthur Park. You will not only see my new music video, which I encourage you guys to check out.
Starting point is 03:51:20 MacArthur Gerb in the building, but you also see a vlog that me and Donnie shot for Donnie's channel of me copying Zanz on Alvarado. You feel me like, first person ever doing it. Morals over money TV. Go subscribe. You can follow me.
Starting point is 03:51:35 You can follow me. You can follow me an ugly money niche. There's ugly money NIC, N-H-E. And of course, Ugly Money TV. And if you want to hear more about the whole YSail, I got a new interview with a YSail member, directly grew up with thug. It's right on Ugly Money TV.
Starting point is 03:51:49 I can come check it out. Yeah, I'm out to be in Atlanta. I swear to God, nobody's holds. Hey, bro, I got you. Come fuck with you. No one in Atlanta's ever rat in. No, no. I'm about to be out there.
Starting point is 03:51:59 I don't care. I don't care who's ratting or not. We're going to Magic City. All right. Let's go. Yeah, yeah. You got to get some little pepper chicken wings. I've been to make you say, man.
Starting point is 03:52:06 I'm in King of Diamond. Say what? Your honor's always. Yeah, I do King of Damos on Thursday. What? I was in there, bro, the first time I went to King of Darmies, bro, me and Slimfano was out there, then, boom, we left our section,
Starting point is 03:52:18 because he, you fuck with, uh, he rest in peace, Memphis, uh, uh, uh, you got golf, yeah, we went over there with golf and, and paper route, nigga, um, Eaglewood, nigga that, I had a ball, that's the first time I've been in the club
Starting point is 03:52:32 that fully naked. Yeah, I was in there, what? It's so tight. I got a good job. You got a good guy up? Yes, they do, but it's a little bit. Look, look, look, uh, compared to the South.
Starting point is 03:52:42 Yeah, it ain't going to even talk about it. Yeah, yeah. There's no point. It's not going to a strip club out here. Yeah, no, for sure. If you go to a strip club in L.A., then you go to a strip club versus Atlanta and versus like Miami,
Starting point is 03:52:53 you ain't going to even want to go to a strip club when you come back to L.A. It's literally. Everybody go stream, do that by Kingdom. I'm on the marketing team. Help me out. Oh, hold on. Nothing but blood, slimp for honey.
Starting point is 03:53:06 Me, a kid of Roo. Icewriters, almost a million. Nika, nothing but bloods. Nika, everybody go stream that shit. Nguyen 4-100 for sure. Okay, shit. That's a bangor right. What?
Starting point is 03:53:17 Almost to an M on B team. Nia. Long live my bro. Five bills to get you whack. Seven hell marries, man. Y'all already know, man. Check that thing out, man. Y'all got half-Aid.
Starting point is 03:53:27 Y'all enjoy the rest of your evening and we'll see you guys back tomorrow. My club. We're about to be out too. Stay down. Stay home, stupid. Oh, blood. I like that.

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