No Jumper - The No Jumper Show Ep. 139 w/ T.I. & Domani

Episode Date: March 23, 2022

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Key his shirt out and put Tygo over. We could. That would be so fucked up. Yeah, Yuri always loves fucking with me on some technological shit. Trying not to swear, even though we repeatedly just did. But let's try to start there. Hello, guys. No jumper.

How are you all doing? Coolest podcast in the world. Hottest podcast. You decided to come in with some cool glasses today? You too and me. And you, but you just wear them all the time because you can't see anything. Facts. Wow.

I felt like I had to step it up. You didn't come in here with those. I did. Oh, really? Yeah. Why do you got Remble on your shirt? This is DJ Screw, actually. Why did I think same thing for a second? RIP screw.

I know it was screwed, but it looks like Rembo so much. I just had to say it. Holy shit. How old is that shirt, dude? We got that in the mail like a couple months ago. Yeah, literally you were here. Oh, wow. I think you actually got that hat that you're wearing the same day.

This one? No, no way. You sure? Yeah, my homie gave me this one. The one that gave you the shades? I think these are the shades from... Oh, really? I think.

Do you have like a mountain of like No Jemper fan slash tent talk fan drip in your house or do you kind of like comb through it and get rid of all the whack stuff for a while i did and it wasn't that big of a deal but now my closet is just like overfilled you know there's like there's like not enough space anymore so i've been like every week and i've been like just filtering shit like i'm not gonna rock this like i'm gonna give it to russia or give it to give it to russia the russian army oh my god look at him spilling his freaking rock star oh my god you don't put the rock star there put the rock star over here i'll just hold I'm saying. My legs all the way over here.

Does anyone have any axe body spray or something? We got to cover up this freaking rock star smell. I thought you would say Yuri smelled that. The rock star smells worse than the spray paint. It looks like a freaking dog pissed on the ground. Can we get a paper towel? Like a dog with a kidney infection, though. Like a good neighbor, Yuri is here to spill urine on the ground.

My boy, Yuri coming off an all-star, you know what I'm saying? He is. I don't know if he wants to say how much money he made, but he went crazy. Okay, okay. First of all, are you make money during that? Are you joking? Set a rule. Set the rule about what we're going to save for Thursday 6 p.m.

First of all, y'all know what the fuck going on, man. Disconnected every Thursday featuring Blasie and Yuri and obviously your boy house phone. We saving Yuri's content for his 72-hour stream for this Thursday. So y'all got to tune the fuck in if y'all want to see what the fuck happened. Well, he used to get his ass up out of here. We're not leaking no info. Actually, if you want to talk about it a little bit, but let's... Let me give my experience.

It's Saturday morning. Go to YouTube, see if any thumbnails catch my eye. I see that yours live. I click on it. He's wrapped in a blanket in his room. Not even a blanket, just like a sheet. Like, just the sheet. And he's got it curled around his body.

He's like holding himself like this. He's rocking in bed, like, just like rolling around. Riley's nowhere to be found. I was so confused. Like, A, do you just sleep like that? all the time and then also immediately somebody donated to play a message that was like 777777 and read it off it sounded really loud like the text to speech so he's trying to sleep and someone can spend two dollars bro and they get to send a message that probably takes like a minute

and a half to read it's forever and like also they can put helly emojis and then like the thing narrates all the emojis like mountain with smoke mountain with smoke mountain with smoke Mountain would just like fucking do shit like that over and over again. That's why I was curled up like this. I was trying to like mute out the sounds, but I just couldn't. Did you think about your plugs? I did, but then people are, yeah, people can call me scammer. Like, say all this shit.

Like the point of it is to be tortured, but I didn't expect. Like you're a scammer if you're not going to like absolutely ruin your life. Well, that was, that's the whole point. That's what I'm signing up for there. And honestly, still to this day, I still feel like I haven't like recovered yet. I feel like I need one more good night's sleep. I told this nigga. The sleep was that bad?

Bro, it was terrible. I watched him like pause, but I watched this nigga super late at night, sleep. And I'm just talking to his fans in the fucking chat at like 4 a.m. I saw that. Dude, at that time, like at 3 in the morning, I'm just starting to fall asleep a little bit. And then someone donates. They're like, how much to do 100 pushups? And I was just like, I was like, bro.

Bro, they're donating to make this nigga take shots. Did you do 100 pushups? Dude, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, 100 bucks for 100 pushups. because I was like, no one's going to donate that shit. And like two seconds, someone donates a hundred bucks. That's a wake up at three in the morning. Fucking do 100 push-ups. Nothing is worth that, dude.

It was the worst shit ever, bro. Having to switch your brain over from like sleep mode to workout mode? To 100 push-ups. At three in the morning? Dude, I don't give a fuck about disconnected right now. I got to bring this shit up, though. You were asleep. Keep your mouth shut.

This is just like snitching. You were asleep with my boy with no draw. Oh, wait. I had your ass was out. Yeah, what's going on with you, bro? Then you turned over, balls hanging. He's sleep. He gets up like, bro, he sleep with no draws on.

I'm like, bro, what is y'all doing? Wait, what? Okay, he's talking about a clip, no jump or no context posted, where it's like me sleeping with Toke, because Toke slept over. And we slept together, pause. Pause? Where's your girl?

In the other room with Toke's girl. He's right here. Basically, so we're sleeping. I see that clip in the morning, right? And I'm like, no. I'm like, oh my God. Like, did my butt cheeks come out? Like, did my, like, I was like, what's going on?

Yo, butt cheeks come out yet. No, no. I did. I looked at the actual clip. They just put a block on top where it looks like I'm nude. But if you watch the actual clip, I just have shorts on there. Okay, you're not actually making. I was not actually making.

Do we not pay you enough to buy a blanket? How, wait, how, you think I could stream myself nude sleeping on YouTube? That would be so shitty to wake up and all of a sudden your band on Twitch and you don't even know why. You don't even know why. It's because you're pulling your meat out and your sleep and just stroking it? No, at one point they were at one point they were asleep next to each other, right? This nigga Yeri just spreads eagle.

Like this nigga leg is like intertwined with the homie leg. Where was Riley sleeping? In the other room. She didn't want to sleep on camera. Yeah, she wants to sleep on camera. She was fed up with your ass doing it. What a gentleman that you didn't force her to do with it along with you. I was begging her.

I was like, bro, come on. Wait, hold. I have a question. Riley, okay, so I woke up from my. two miserable. Okay, so I had two miserable nights of sleep, right? This is the last night of sleep I had. And to be honest, this was like the most hours. I think I had like five hours of sleep this time. Riley comes through, dumps a whole cup of water on my head to wake me up on stream. And I'm just like, I get all fucking. Yes.

I get all pissed and I like leave the room. You slapped her? You said I was all pissed. You went like, I got kind of frustrated. So I fucking left the room. Then I come back. And I'm like, I'm kind of like all hangary, right? And I like I start kind of just going like, oh man, these fucking windows are not where I put it above all. It kind of just complaining, right? So Riley and I get a little argument.

And then she leaves. And then at some point look at the chat and I see no jumper right. Like, what's going on here? What? I can't even imagine him and Riley just fighting. No, fuck you. No, your hair is ugly. No, your hair is ugly.

I hate you. You don't disce each other's hair, right? Oh, this is the fucking clip of her story. Oh, put us in the corner. We got to see this. I've never seen it before, but it. Look at, she thinks she's Chief Keefe. Wait, you got to run it back.

You got to run it back. Oh, my God. Dude, this happened like at 9 in the morning. I was like, who is logged in on the no jumper account commenting right now? Why did she do this? Is someone pair? The chat was telling her to do it. Whoa.

You can tell by the smile on her face that she thought it was some real cute shit. You should hear the audio. She runs away snickering. What do you say? You look a bitch. I was so mad, dude. Very glow gang of her. Yo.

Okay. And you guys, damn, I wonder if you can do a stream like that on only fans and just keep it going like that and just fuck multiple girls. I love that idea. Go crazy. Yeah, honestly, it wasn't that idea. No, but man, when I was watching that, though, it reminded me of in the first maybe six months that I was hanging out with Leonard, there was one time where we're kicking it.

And for some reason, she decided she wanted to joke with me. And she takes a bottle of water. and she just like splashes a little bit on my head not a full fucking cup like you're crazy-ass girlfriend just did right there. I'm so glad you did that. Just a little. It was a lot.

Just a splash. And I just like look at her and I go, hey, don't ever fucking do that kind of shit to me ever again. I get super serious. I forget exactly what I said. She still to this day says that that was the meanest that I ever sounded to her is the time she threw a little bit of water on me.

I was just, I had to lay the gauntlet down. I don't play like that. Don't mess with me like that. I don't like having my my physicality disturbed. Don't spray me with a hose. Were you asleep? No, I was just chilling.

Like, we were about to go do something. Shut up, nigga and pour some more on you. That's what Heather would do for sure. That's what Dan Princess would do. I got a polite bitch. Shut up. Shut your bitch ass up. I was pissed.

Usually I wouldn't get that upset, but I was just off very little sleep. Yeah, you're in a mental asylum at that point. You're like really messed up. I don't know. I would be pretty fucking mad, too. I hate you, Riley. I hate you. It's just so unbelievably awkward that it happened on stream and that you couldn't turn it off.

I mean, you could, what, go in the other room and argue? Did you argue via text? No. You had to just eat it, huh? I went to the other room. I just lay down in bed for like seven minutes. I came out. Seven minutes?

Seven. Exactly. You were inspired. Bro, it's like stuck in my head. And then, yeah, bro, what's even worse? No jump up memes is so fast on it. They were like. Within two minutes of that happening, they were like made a meme about me.

arguing with Riley and shit, like all this stuff. I'm like, bro. I know. I probably wouldn't even know if they didn't post about it. No, actually, I showed up during it, so I was reading the chat. You just so happened to log in it right when it was. I'm watching everybody in his room right now, and if a meme go up, I know it's Bostonova, Doc.

For real. Yeah, honestly, where he's at? Hold on. Yeah, he's not even in here. If a meme goes up right now, it's Boston over doing these damn memes. You know what? Next week, we're going to be able to talk about the House Brown Town tour that one of the meme pages is putting together where he...

I still can't believe this. He went to the city hall and put up a floor. liar that said Hash Brown for mayor or something. Noah Biska for mayor. Wow. It was the funniest video ever, bro. That's unreal. You have the most dead weed as a team. You know what? I want to make this clear

because last week I pointed out that I just don't want like every time somebody makes a joke for it to be like, Mean page, Mean Page. I'm totally cool talking about the mean pages. We're talking about the mean pages right now. I just want to you know, we can't just be giving them like the shout out every time we make a good joke

but I will say that the kind of energy that we have going right now with the meme pages, I honestly wanted that for a long time, and I just kind of almost kind of just accepted that point, like, all right, there's no jumper fan base, they're cool, but they don't necessarily, you know, they don't care about the channel

so much that they're going to, like, really have that sense of community with the memes and the hilarity. Because sometimes when you look at, like, Joe Budden fan Twitter, like, you know, I don't know right now, but like in the glory days of Joe Butter, whatever, like, you would see a level of, like, introspection,

inspection and analysis from the fans that on one hand seems kind of dangerous. But on the other hand, it's like that really makes you feel like your content is appreciated when all the little funny moments are being analyzed and pointed out, you know? Exactly. But those funny moments go viral a lot of times. Those funny moments go viral. That would make you, though. I'm still convincing somebody in the office.

It's too specific. It's Bolsonaro. I remember maybe like six, seven months ago there was another meme page. I forgot what it was called, but they were trying to make memes. They were making memes for a while. They gave you the shirt. Come on me if you, I'm pro-gay, so come on my face. That was weird.

You were wearing that shirt the other day. I probably found it. It's me with fake. Come on my face on the shirt. Where did you find that at? It was just a deep in my closet somewhere. But these mean pages are doing a better job than that dude for sure. Man, how did you feel about Adam doing a porn with your t-shirt on?

Well, okay, for the record. Wait, what? The new episode of Plug Talk in the interview part, in the interview part, I'm wearing the Yuri shirt. But then you take it off and get butt-ey's naked. We have the sex part and that part I am naked. Do you be getting asshole naked on camera? Of course.

Like no socks on nothing? No socks. No socks is great. You socks or no socks? Okay, it depends on what kind of floor you got. Because if you're on the hardwood floor, you're going to be slipping around. What if you never get off the bed? Bro, sometimes you got to get off the bed.

At home, when I'm having sex for fun, I will wear, I'll wear socks still. I'll leave money. I don't give a fuck. But when it's like on camp. Carpet sometimes. I feel like wearing socks looks kind of weird. Like, what am I a fucking little kid? Like just rocking socks?

I don't know. You got to remember, niggas in the early 2000s is fucking bitches with nothing but long socks and Tims on. Porn dudes? Yeah, you never seen that before? The Tim's for sure.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? My ideal male porn star is rocking a Yankees fitted and Timberlins and that's it. How you're describing house phone? Honestly, you might have to tap in your next plug talk episode with like a white du rag. with the Yankee over it, with a wife beater, some baggy-ass jinko jeans or whatever jeans you've been

wearing. You should be the stylist for his... Oh, I love that. I do be putting fits together for that because, like, the photos for that, you can really see the whole outfit. You can see the whole fit head to toe? Yeah. Can we...

You kind of killed it today. Thank you. Well, did I? No jumper tea. Fire. Now, you got to... Shut out to my girl. You got to really take these off and really analyze these, man.

That's like size 50 shoes. First of all, it's two Nike signs in these. Let's just start there. Well, I didn't. notice it said plug talk on there. These are crazy. With the money. I got to, uh, I got to shout her out by name. With the no jumper on the fucking toe.

Fire. She's from the bay and she came through yesterday just to give me these and I fuck with her. Like she's going to be in the blog and shit. So we're going to shout her out there. But it's I, I need shmoney. Like S. H. M-O-N-E-Y. I need shmoney. So that's who, uh.

How did you hook up with her? She's black. Let's throw that in there. She is a black woman. We need some chocolate. And, well, that is not why I respond to my friend. This is a non-plug talk exchange of shoes. But, you know, she just hit me up on Instagram and said she want to give me the shoes.

I'm like, fuck, yeah, come through. You usually don't even answer people. You don't seem like this type of nigga that'd be really going through your DMs accepting drip. Chocolate. I read my DMs. I just respond to very few of them. Some guy pulled up the other day and he had like this like M.F. Doom sweater. Oh, the guy that made the little Tracy carpet rug.

I was going to wear that shirt today with Draco, Dauph and the, and fucking DMX. Hey, I forgot his name. I forgot his name, but oh boy, I need that MF Doom hoodie. So how that? You were an MF Doom fan? It's Lil Power. I mean, not like. Like P-A-U-E-R, I think, Will Power?

Yeah, P-A-U-R, yeah. I wasn't like the biggest, but like, you know, I tapped in with M-Food back in the day. You fucked with M-F-Doom? Like, you were a fan? I focused on, I would watch all these BMX videos. He wasn't probably a rapper I would have known about necessarily, but all these BMX videos would use his songs and then also I was a huge ghost face fan and ghostface did shit with mf doom and then after that ghost face got so much weirder I felt like he kind of like took a lot of

stylistic cues from uh from him a little bit so yeah I'll fuck with him now you know it's weird you know fucking like early off future was my introduction to mf doom because they used to rap on like i think it was like an old kC veggie veggies casey veggie vetchies and tyler song that was on an mf doom beat and I'm one of those weird niggas I'm like where is this beat come from so I looked up the original song. I always forget that Casey Vell is from our future. Man, stop playing man. Customized greatly.

Come on man. Shut up. I wonder what happened. Like, what the fuck happened? You know, okay, if you want me to be honest, I think, fuck y'all. No, no, I don't think that. I'm going to get rich. I don't think that was the case at all. I think that Casey I'm going to use auto tuned. Especially you, look, look, you got

think about it like this. At the time, they were on some super 666 upside down cross. devil shit. Okay, let's not get into that again. But they were on that. And I think Casey wanted to go a different route. Was odd future Emma?

Here we go. I'm here for you, A.D. I'm here for you. Here we fucking go. Do not go. Let's keep having a fun conversation about Casey Veggie before we go full MGK on them. MGK made a video on it. I'm not saying that was the reason why, but I'm saying Casey went more of like a

like a standard L.A. Rapper route. You think if MGK was an odd future that he would be, like, do you think he would have to outshine Tyler? How would that have gone? You're on your AD tick shit right now.

You're ticking right now. I didn't know they were like six or anything random. Bro, they had like jerseys and shit with the huge six six six six upside down. I felt like they were just fucking without some like random.

No, no, that's exactly. That's how I feel. It was trolling, right? It was silly. It was high school shit.

It was like, oh, I'm going to put an upside down cross to just be like, it wasn't like, we don't we worship Satan you know that's exactly what the vibe but like you got to again adam you don't understand how people are looking at that shit like whoa what the odd future were weird as fucking so many ways when they came out though it totally like threw the rap game on

its head especially the LA rap game because it was so different than anything that ever popped off on do you think Tyler put Supreme on no no no no no no it no if you really want to be honest let's talk about it bro talk about it Tyler is definitely disconnected now Tyler for Tyler for show raised his stocks in Supreme at one point for show because like yeah it was known bro people knew but that nigga was wearing box logos fucking every video every like it was like a staple like Tyler like color box logo fucking weird cut off dicky shorts vans and some long socks like that was his literal cartoon character aesthetic this is the thing about Supreme when I think about Supreme they combined actually having really really good taste with

never selling out, never doing whack shit for money, you know? And if you follow that blueprint as a brand, then you cannot fail. Like if you actually get the culture and you actually get what's cool and you never are willing to take the short-term payday, then I don't see what happens to your brand. Your brand could always be cool as long as you actually stay like with that kind of integrity. Yeah, but at the end of the day, it was like it was different errors of like Supreme being at his height. And I think in between, like, the

Tyler the creator and then, like, Travis Scott later on, like, kind of helping redo it or who else? Like, maybe like an A-Sap Rocky, too. Like, I feel like there's been certain people that just like is always going to be a staple, no matter what. But I think it did get played out maybe like... No.

Why did they stop wearing it? It didn't get played out. Because you know what? You know why? They stopped wearing it because he probably realized how much fucking money. You're talking about Tyler and them? Yeah, and A-Sap. Because, because, because niggas was like putting, you're putting on for this other brand way too hard. Because if you're Tyler, why not rock your own brand or high fashion? Yeah, exactly.

Or like, you know, really cool underground brands that you know about why are you going to blow Supreme up. Even if you really, really fuck with Supreme, it's owned by the biggest fucking multinational fashion corporation in the world. Yeah. That was before that. But I'm talking about even now, like, I mean, I fuck with Supreme as a brand and I'll wear once in a while to show respect to the brand. But also, I'm doing my own shit. Like, I got my own fucking world that I'm trying to. Bill, why am I going to be out here

reping another brand like all the time? And like me saying that they raised the stocks was not like on some light. It can't just be just Tyler. I feel like at the time that's when skateboarding fashion was starting to become really popular. No, that's a fact. And everyone was starting to dress like a skateboarder and what does skateboarders wear.

That's a fair. That's a great. And DC and Diamond also. And he was there too. Yeah, true. They were wearing that shit too. I don't know. It just blew up because those certain rappers was wearing that shit.

No, that's a fact. And then like. But Diamond sold out. They like sold to like every, they're selling to big stores and shit. Like, they sold out. It was honestly a point in life where I didn't know what else to wear besides a diamond t-shirt and like some fucking dickies or something. Like I literally couldn't tell you what the fuck else there was to even wear besides a diamond team.

When I was in high school, every single guy had like at least two diamond t-shirts in their closet. Like for sure, for real. I used to love the ones with like. Everybody except Adam. I know a diamond t-shirt. You never had a diamond t-shirt? No. Damn.

Thank God I avoided that one. I fell for Crookin Castle, though. Bro, Chris and Castle has the shit, though. I was tearing up Carmeloo. Give me the 80% off. After Christmas, 80% off. Let me in. Oh, God, you get like a $20 crew neck?

Shut up. Stop it. Hey, you know what I fucked with, though? I know you know about this Johnny Cupcakes. That was my shit. That's the first entrepreneur I ever met. Listen. The home.

I met him when I was really young, and he was selling $10,000 worth of shit every single phone. day on his online store. I never even knew one person who ever had $10,000 ever in their entire life. And he told me that number. And he had a sidekick in 2003. Yeah, you're like, what the fuck is it? He was the first person I ever knew that had a sidekick.

I have a side conversation. Go ahead. We have a very, do not say the name. Okay. We have a very famous rapper who is supposed to be pulling up for an interview after this. But there's a... You never tell me the name. There's a...

Oh, good. I think T.roll remembers, though. there's a chance. Though, he's coming at 7.30. Should we just stay live and have him pop in and just chill with us for the last hour of the podcast? That's what I'm saying, right? I really want to know who it is, but I kind of want to be caught off surprise. I don't feel like I should say it because I don't want to threaten the security or anything like that, you know?

No, no. Okay. So can we, Gina, can you deliver that knowledge to Laura and just let her know that we want to stay live and replace Yuri with this person? No offense here. I'm a person. I'm a pull a T-Roy. Shout out to my fucking Gina views in the building. Yeah, you guys.

I haven't seen them. I haven't seen Gina views or Laura in forever. I was like, wow, Adam finally got rid of the black ladies. Oh, my dad. Shaking my head. They probably had COVID. They love Gina in here, man. Everybody was trying to get Gina, man.

No. Why are you always have a New York hat on? Oh, I'm on. And it ain't a Mets hat either. What's going on? Hey, I feel you, Gina Vue. It's cool seeing that she's standing in front of the green screen with the green hat on, so you can't sit on her head like she's actually already like,

she's actually, like, she's been in the head. Hey, with hood. Is she? Yes, she probably... Allegedly. Oh, damn. Hey, can we acknowledge the situation that we are in?

It's so fucking hot. It is, I think, 83 degrees in this room. Earlier today, while we were doing some content, the fucking AC, boom, off.

I'm fine through it. I'm committed to the outfit. That's what... You got to commit to the drip, bro. You got a white beard on there or what? I got a full t-shirt on. It's going crazy.

I'm sweating under here, but I first sat down it wasn't as bad, but as we're progressing through the pods getting personal. As you talk more and your heartbeat gets up a little bit it's the fucking lights too, bro. Yeah, the lights definitely love.

No, because I was interviewing this rapper earlier and at one point... That one? No. No. My heart rate went up a little bit because I fucking accidentally asked him a question that he denied it so much that I'm pretty sure that I like wrote the wrong question for the wrong rapper because I basically said like, so there are these allegations that you were snitching.

Let's talk about it. And he just straight up like, what the fuck? He's like, nah, bro. He's like, he's like, nah. Like, in a way where I'm like, I'm pretty sure that I just asked the wrong person that. I could do a little bit of Googling and figure it out. He was cool about it. Luckily.

But at that moment, when I started to feel like a fucking idiot, my heartbeat goes up, the fact that it's hot in here really started to matter. Because all of a sudden, I'm like, kind of sweating and shit. I hope you can't see it. So that's how you dropped the question? Yeah, I just brought up. You're like, so you're told on your childhood friends. Because I thought that the person that I was saying this to was going to basically be like, yes, that was a rumor. But here's what really happened.

But I'm pretty sure that I wrote it down for the wrong person because he acted like, what the fuck? Or maybe he was just deflecting and just getting you. That could be a too. That would be way better. What the fuck are you talking about? If I figure it out that he just pulled a fucking move on me right there. He pulled the wool over your eyes. God damn.

That would be fucking crazy. You just fell for it. You even just saying the. word wool right now just made me feel like I was gonna fucking sweat. Yo, by the way, if my shirt looks like I'm a little damp, it's because I just washed it and it didn't fully dry. If my shirt looks a little damp,

it's because I am literally a little damp and I'm sweating through my shirt right now. Okay, wait. This is how you know niggas will literally die for the drip. I probably told this story a billion times, but I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna tell it again. Let's hear it. Eighth grade. First day of school.

Bud Carson Middle School at Hawthorne, California. You used to be called Yukon Intermediate. Oh, fuck. I pull up to school, right? Okay. I pull up to school.

First of all, I had the fit laid out the day before. I got the baby blue and white babes with the Navy blue babe denim, with the baby blue baby Milo babe hoodie

with the Navy blue babe varsity jacket. Wow. On top, my nigga, it is 98 degrees. the next day I wear the whole outfit to school all day long

I'm talking about like I got this hoodie like zipped up to my eyes I'm like trying to flex the baby bro I swear to God I almost had a fucking heat stroke God damn let me tell you this story then Oh boy drip Okay let's get it I used to go to Bethune

Bethune is a predominantly East Coast Crip school I'm coming from this school 8th grade I'm like cool My home school is Fremont. Okay. I'm like, they like, oh, it's just some little bloods over there.

It's okay, but you know, it's a little mixture. I'm like, okay. So I have on some white pans. I got some new Donna Karen. Okay. Blue and black shoes. Damn. I have on a just a white crew neck and a royal blue tee to match my shoes, right?

You're rocking DKNY in high school? Yeah, you're in middle school, he said. In high school, high school at Firm. You put Hose from BKNY out to DKNY? You damn right. That's what it was popping, too. You can't why it was popping Oh God

It really was popping So boom I go I walk to school I'm on the corner In the school Fremont is here Fremont is here

I'm on the corner I'm right up Across the life For the go to school Somebody pulls up In his fucking Scooby-Doo van You know what I'm

You know that band That fucking Scooby-Doo camper Like a shawers on the outside And shit It was a hippie band It was all white Yeah That hippie van

Oh that's the rites He reaches his head out the window He looks at my fit And he goes Fuck crap Oh no And I'm like And I look at him with just terror in my face.

And he's like, fuck, fuck, fuck. He just kept saying this shit. And he was like, stop the van. Stop the bed. And I'm like, oh, shit. I run the fucking school. Running the fucking school. Like, he chased me to the gate.

He's looking in the gate. And I'm like, oh, shit. But I'm like, I'm not taking this shit off. I'm not calling my mom. This shit is crazy. These daughter carrots is getting seen, at least at nutrition. Like, I'm not going home. But this is the question is,

When you're wearing something that is like a little too hot for the environment that you're in, do you just start sweating your fucking ass off? Because you damn right. Like I talked to some people. I remember I interviewed Shane Gonzalez and he said that he could be in the middle of a fucking hot-ass warehouse party, rocking a leather trench coat. And he wouldn't really be sweating like that. I'm like, bro, like if I'm even slightly hot, if I have a windbreaker on and it's even slightly hot,

my blood temperature starts going up a little bit, I'm sweating. And it's going to stink. I know how to stay committed. if you wear some fucking deodorant out of it? Never. Just by, you know, touring and doing all that stuff, because they have to keep that shit on in the outfits and stuff like that. I can't control it, though.

And the interviews, too, it's like when we used to go to radio station shit, it's like, don't move. Have less movement. Oh, that's how you do it, just literally don't move? Have less movement, talk. You know what I know you're sweating a little bit, but don't move as much because it's going to get crazy for you. You're going to have to take it off.

So less movement. I remember when we were on tour, a little pump, that there would be nights, where like me and you had to go out and turn the crowd up or whatever. And I would, I would not like really like run around that much so I wouldn't be sweating. And then there would be other nights where I'd be off Zanz. And I would be running back and forth.

Wow. Yo, what the fuck is it? Woke up to looking like me. I can't believe you was on tour doing that. Going crazy. Adam was terrible at it because his timing was bad. It would be like, Camgirl will be playing a song and he'll be trying to talk while the song was playing.

I'm like, Adam, you got to wait. and like, are you going to do that at the live show? You should bring that back. I'm not going to top over the music. You should bring that Adam. Adam had the energy, though. Adam had the energy. The Xanergy.

The Xanergy. Because you should get off of sand. Maybe you're right. All that. No, I'm going to say some crazy shit. I'm going to forget the. What my white boy's at? Are you going to do your old party trick?

Hey, everybody out there. You used to always be at, we be an audience, 80% white kids. You'd be like, everybody say, no, no, no, no, no. No, I do it. I do it. When I say Nick, y'all say er, Nick. And then they'll be like, oh, oh, oh, whoa. You hear like 10% of the crowd, like, say it back?

They'll be like, er, oh, oh. And meanwhile, I'm standing on stage like, dear, Jesus. Y'all crazy, bro. It was me, bro. I was a little ignorant. Bring that energy back to the live show, man. Oh, my God, wait. It's coming.

Speaking of... Wait, before you even say that, though, he's got his son with. So, wait, yeah, fuck. The person who's going to be here has a person with him. Okay. So we already figured out of your

he's not typically on this podcast. I do remember now. So it's like, you are an actual member of this podcast. T.R. Got it. You would rather have him do it than you? Because, bro, T.

Because he's an interviewer. T. T.R. has proven himself as one of the fucking most essential. most essential add-ons to no jumper. He's fucking killing it on the fly.

He did a whole fucking maxo cream and peso peso, peso interview off the dome. I was so impressed. Off the dome, nigga. It's starting to get crazy. It's trying to get a little dry for a while.

I know. I don't even know this. I don't know what that fucking asked. We were still trying to figure it out in the group chat. Like, what the hell is going on with this? As much as I would like to sit in because now I just remember who it was,

as much as I would like to sit in, I think it would do the show a better justice if we had T-Rill. That's very big of you. Damn, that's crazy. I love you for that. Come on, bro. You know the vibes.

Legendary. I love you for that. Really, though? He's trying to lead. That's why we... I'm like, it's hot as foot. They got some ketamine weight outside. But that's going to be the beautiful thing

once we get the new spot is that we're going to be able to have a whole bunch more mics. And by the way, I sat in the fucking realtor's office today and I signed about 50... Hell you. More than that. Probably 300 signatures. Fuck.

Which when I bought a house back in the day and also when I bought my new house, this is what you have to do. You have to sit there and sign so many pieces of paper that you can't even believe that they're asking you to sign this many. And there's no way you read through any of it. Hell no. But an hour and a half later, they said, okay, you're done. You own this fucking building. But we got to pick up the keys on like Friday or something. That's sad.

Damn, let's go. Yeah. Very excited. I got a go-car and a four-wheeler. Can I do donuts in there? I got a four-wheeler. Let me do donuts in there for anything. Get in there.

Oh, that sounds like a good vlog. I got a go-car. It's about you doing that to the floor. It destroys the wall. You got granite floor or something? I'm not sure exactly what the floor is made of, but I know I don't want fucking go-kart marks all over it. Vell just walked in the door.

He literally looks like he might pass out right now. From the heat? It's so fucking hot in his... Damn, bro. So we're not going to have go-carts within you office? Vell's like a thermometer. You're just looking at them and you know what temperature is. Yo.

Look at what are you drinking a mikalogue for? You're going to really overheat now. A mikalow? What the fuck is that? The weekends are made for Mikulub. So just let me hit you That's the new plug talk theme song Hey you want to know

The more times I listen to back in The more bars I catch And the more I think about each bar The more impressed I am with it My favorite one is Even when I didn't have no money I was still rich Because honestly I'm gonna be real with you

That's how I feel When I think about how I felt When I was broke as fuck But I got to go out and ride BMX bikes With my friends every day And then hang out with trashy girls Yeah at night and do drugs with them.

I felt like I was on top of the fucking world. So I just want to remind everybody out there that like, even if you ain't like made it where you think you are in life, if you enjoy those moments. If you get to wake up and do some shit that makes you happy, then that's really like you're rich. Even if it's like shooting up heroin between your toes. Life is what you make it.

Like you can make a heaven of a hell or a hell of a heaven. Yes. Bro, look at Yuri. Look at fucking Yuri. He fucking infiltrated his way. In the bando, making racks on stream. First of all, Yuri got probably as many bathrooms as you got. Really?

Don't play with him. I have four. He got like at least three. That seems really unnecessary for two people. I heard somebody say, I have 10 bathrooms. I'm like, for what? I know, what are you going to do? I know you ain't talking about.

But if your house is big enough, then it becomes a pain in the ass to walk from one side of the other. That's the only value I can see is if your house is truly jacked. Like, I went to Travis Barker's house one time. I think that might have been the biggest house I ever been to his kid's birthday. If that house had 10 bathrooms, I would totally understand. Because it might take you five minutes to walk from one end to the other. Hey, if you really thinking about it, I don't know what his kid is doing now. But I remember you went to that nigger birthday party and like Playboy Cardi performed.

No, Kemetzine. Oh, I thought Cardi was there. Same thing. Wow. Now, Cardi performed there too. You got a fuck good. That might have been a different weekend. That's fucking legendary.

You know what's weird that I'm having to get used to is I realize like now Travis Barker's daughter, Alabama, is like, grown enough. that they're treating her like a real celebrity. Like they're, I'm seeing like the Hollywood fix talking about her and shit. That's when you know you're kind of like an adult now is when all the gossip rags feel like they can talk about you. I ain't a lot. She got sweat.

I never seen her before. Don't try to put her on plug talk, Adam. Absolutely, no, you got me fucked up. But, no, I just like, that's kind of weird for me because it's like, to me, I would see her on his social media and she was like 13 or something. Even when I seen her in real life, she's like a small child. Now she's like, got different boyfriends. How old is she like 19, 20?

I think she might have just hit 18, so that's why they're posting about her like that. She's swagging up out here. That comment is going to have you never invited to the party. Me? You're fucked. He said don't put on a place. But Travis Barker probably doesn't know what Polk talk is. Yeah.

I was making sure that that's where Adam was going. Actually, you want to know something funny about Travis Barker is that when, uh, when, uh, and actually his fucking... Never invited to the Playboy Cardi party. His daughter gets looped into this story, too. So me and Lennon of the Pollock take a fucking photo with Travis Barker when we went to his house that one time. And I think I posted it and wrote something that was like not sexual. And then he reposted it and said, she wants a threesome, L.O.L. About his, I know about me and Lennah.

I could not believe it when I saw. And then if I'm not remember, if I'm almost 100% sure, his daughter commented like a puke or like a puke emoji on the photo. So he really likes you if he did that shit. Well, that was... But I feel like he can't fuck with me anymore because the MGK gang ties, you know, that's his twist. So I don't think you're really... I think we were going to do an interview.

I fuck with MGK. You need to say you fuck with MGK. Stop playing with MGK like that. That would be a lie. You don't fuck with his music. He slapped my niggas. Mike out his hand, bro. We ain't fucking with that nigger.

No, I don't give a fuck about him. But I'm not going to sit here and act like I respect his music or his career. Do you respect his pipe game, though, because Shorty came on here. Kelly K said he had the biggest dick ever. Yes, I do respect that. Why would you, what are you talking about? Why would you respect her?

I respect you now. He beat her duties down in the back of Logan Paul's house against the fucking Maybach truck or some shit. And hemorrhage her asshole for eternity. She said it never went away. Pucumogy on that, Alabama. She said it never went away. Alabama is the daughter's name? I think so.

Wait, wait. Let's cut Alabama off this conversation. Cut. You're right. You're right. You're right. Get out of here. Yeah, we go to.

Now, I was switch the subjects. That's a fight. That's a tight name, though. sits on Alabama, man. I wonder if he ever been there. We go in Mississippi. I was going to say, like, not that many states' names

could work out, like, as your kids' name. Dakota. Dakota's cool. A lot of people named Dakota. If I had to... That's super racist. I'm not naming my daughter, Hampshire. Hampshire. New.

New. New Ham. New. Virginia. That's a name. That's a name. That's a name. What about Florida?

That's the stupidest name I ever heard. Maybe Flo. What's Florida look like? No rider. What about. What about Lexus, Mercedes? She couldn't afford a car. So she named a daughter of Lexus.

Bro, that's a bar. I came up with a stupid-ass rhyme for Kiki the other day that I don't even know if he overheard us when we were talking about it. We were saying something like, uh, I met a bitch. I don't know what you're talking about, but I can't remember it either. It was something where you take Kiki and you make, you have a girl saying, why Kiki? But it's like you're rapping on. like Hawaii into the bar.

So she's saying Y Kiki, which is a place in Hawaii. I take a bitch to Yiki. I took a bitch to Wai Kiki. I cheated on her. She said, why Kiki? That kind of thing.

But better. Damn. He said, Oh, Kaman bar. That's like some Kaman bar. Kempon said she want to hang with me. She got a drink a can of pee.

I got bubble gum. Yeah, gums they bubble. Fuck with dip set. You in trouble, trouble. And I double bubble. And I double bubble.

bubble. That's double the double. I remember listening to that shit and being like, I don't know. Like, this is kind of hard. This is kind of like too stupid. I didn't jump through mud. That's puddles on puddles. T.rell and I are lost right now. I'm mad. My boy ADA ain't here, man, because my boy pushing T and took his damn spot. What you mean? I thought that was a meme and it's real.

What? Hey, took his spot. Push a T. got an Arby's endorsement. Bro. And he just out there in Italy punching the fucking wall. Nick, he even proshoot him. He eating prosciutto and cheese. Fuck, push it. Fuck good music.

He said he's going to get a pizza sponsorship out there in Italy. Not even to start claiming McDonald's McDonald's will do you wrong. A prosciutto. I got an AD's ear today. And I said, bro, let's take this energy. And let's, like, you shouldn't be shilling for a fucking corporate chain. You need to do your own thing. If you need a little bit of help, I can help with the fucking runway and stuff.

I already hit up my business manager and shit. I feel like 80. That's a great idea. he should be in the entrepreneur game, not the fucking spokesperson for a billion dollar corporation. So what you want? Do you want him to start his own restaurant? Yeah, he should start like a sandwich food truck

where he honestly replicates. Don't you think that he's like the perfect person to be? His shit will go up tomorrow. First of all, every fucking rapper will be there and support it. That's what I'm saying. To me, that helps AD get into the category

that he's clearly aiming for where he wants to be a head honcho in L.A. that has the entrepreneurial thing and it's really like building shit in his fucking community. To me, when he, if he had that fucking spot, because I get inspired seeing O. Gizi has a Mexican spot on sunset.

What? Blueface copped a fucking fish and chip spot in Santa Clarita. We gotta go to both of those. That's the new wave of hip-hop entrepreneurs is like owning a bunch of businesses so it don't even matter. What's what Gizi's called?

I forget, but he said it's seafood and he don't really like seafood. He's not the best spokesperson for it. That's hilarious. The amount of influence AD had over people actually going to Arby's when Arby's is actually disgusting. Arby's, yo, Arby's might be, crazy.

Arbyes might be literally like Z. I'm pissed that I never had it. Right. On the level. During the blacks for Arby's run, I never had it. Okay. Like, that's crazy. I will cut Arby's a little slack.

The only thing that's good is they got the King's Hawaiian rolls. The French fries. No, no, they got Kings Hawaiian rolls so you can get any sandwich on a Hawaiian roll. But to Arby's defense, push your tea actually wrote the theme song to Arby's. Which is so insane. How is he writing that shit for every brand? Because he wrote the fucking

do-dood do do do do-d-do. Yeah, for McDonald's too. He wrote that shit too. How is this even a little thing? You got to think about it. How much money does this guy have? He said he got fucked on that deal though. That's crazy.

I heard someone in the office said earlier that he said he got paid like $30,000. What the fuck? And they've been using it ever since. Well, because you know why? Because like, I kind of remember the time when that came out.

That was like when McDonald's trying to like urban eyes. Yeah, urban eyes, thank you. They still do that though. Yeah, but like that's when they really first started to do it. And it was like kind of like R&B jazz music in the background. Oh shit. Come get your hot cakes and a coffee for $2.99.

Sound like a plug talk. I'm loving it. But I love when corporations try to like latch on to subcultures because I remember at one point going to fucking Denny's and they had like bands had like different meals, like all these different like warp tour bands like fucking asking. Alexandria and all this weird shit that I honestly have never listened to, but I know that that was kind of like the next wave of like

hardcore bands that were like on Warp Tour and that whole scene. And I just go to fucking Denny's and I see like different meals for the Taking Back Sunday burger and shit. And I'm just like, are you fucking kidding? Damn. If you had a choice to have a restaurant, like what kind of restaurant would you do?

Hmm. I mean, I'm a burger man. To be real with you like that. I'm American food. I would rather. Exactly. I would rather I relate to a burger. Okay. More than I relate to. I don't feel like fried chicken is mine to own a fucking fried chicken restaurant.

Let's make that. I don't think I should own a Chinese restaurant for obvious reasons. I mean, so you want some like because I'm white, I have to make American food. When you look at me, don't you just see a big old burger? I do see you glissied up.

Barbecue. He's a hot dog. Yeah, maybe a steakhouse. Oh, steakhouse. Nah, we got to get a low end. I can see Adam's salad spot. Adam's salad. Yeah.

If AD is ever going to sell $300 steaks, it's going to take some time to build up to that. You've got to start by selling $6 burgers. Why don't you just fucking, you know, go crazy out the gate and just fuck it? Why would anyone go to AD's Ruth Chris? Bro, because it's ADCris. I'm there, bro. What do you need?

I feel like it might take some time to like build up to that. I don't know. No, I'm there. Maybe I'm selling them short. Maybe you're going to be looking at this down the road. Like, look at what a hater at him was. Because you got to think about it, nigga. The opening is going to have fucking O.T. Genesis.

Whiz Khalifa. Kim Kardashian. Yeah, the whole fucking L.A. is like the whole fucking industry is going to be there. So if you started off high, it's never going to dip down. Okay, okay. Give me Adams Burger, like, top ingredients, how you want to cook, what kind of seasoning, what kind of bun? I need you to break it down. You really want me to break down my burger order?

Like, Adams' favorite burger. That's where it starts getting weird when celebrities start making food. It's like you're not a chef. You know like you don't know like good combinations. I do. Adam's a double double lettuce and cheese. I like a lot of meat and not a lot of vegetables. So you want like a big thick patty.

Get that fucking tomato off it. That's the only thing that you know. It's a bacon cheeseburger with no tomato. That's my meal. Boom. Okay. I'm rich. No.

No. Yeah. We need 1,000 Island. Custameo. I think I'm going to go like Rick Ross route and go just go wings. Go wings. Get a chain. Wings are simple.

Wings are simple. You're going right back to Arby's now. Fuck that. I'm never going to Arby's. Okay. I think you want to eat some Arby's now. If AD started his own spot, I feel like it would be better than just like starting an Arby's franchise.

Yeah, it'll be like AD sandwiches or something. Why are you trying to throw sandwich on it? Because I feel like he needs to be a direct competitor of Arby's. Exactly. It'll be like that was his fucking villain arc story was them picking Push a Tee. He's just parked in a right in front of it.

He's the size of it. Nobody's going to want to buy a salad from him. And he should sell rose beef sandwiches and shit. God, the real. Like a real. Wow. Real briskey. Billion dollar idea.

For the branding of it, he should have girls with roast beef pussy on the outside of the windows and shit. We always go back to plug talk. Okay. Okay. Look, I got it right now. Are you all ready? Are you all ready? Yes.

Listen, it's going to be called A.D.'s Armands Deli. Oh. Oh. You better do it right now. I like how he's not here and we're business strategizing for him. Okay, so that's the 10.10 idea. Can we get some like friend theories slash fan theories about what Italy is going to be like for AD? Because this is my one observation that I'm kind of thinking as I see him on his story with his girl.

He's out in Italy. He's doing all this shit. It's like I feel like AD is very like used to being in LA and having access to all the the usual things he has access to. Part of me is wondering, like, if it's going to kind of drive him crazy being in a country where he can barely fucking speak to anybody, you know? Because that's

myself, like, when I've gone overseas, I've had a little bit of that by, like, day three or four. It's just like, God damn, I feel so isolated. Like, I love home. Like, I don't always get like that, but, like, sometimes I'll get like that. Those countries aren't as shallow as us. Like, they don't give a fuck. Like, you can go in any

fucking club. You can go to the VIP. You can go anywhere you want to shop. But if you can't really, like talk to people and you don't know anybody and stuff. It gets a little dry after a while. I was kind of wondering that too. I saw an AD story that he like went to like a, I think like a Gucci store.

That's why you site see for a week. But I was thinking like you could go to a Gucci story here. No, but that's the one thing about oh, D. It's probably nice. That's one thing about high fashion stores is that when you go to them in different countries and shit, they're usually like pretty

different and custom. Houses because this is where it's created at. This is right here on the street. They're upstairs doing this shit. Literally, like, they're fucking, they're hands sewing the belts up. This is made here. If I go to the Gucci store in Italy

and they got the same shit that they got on Roadway, I'm gonna be like, what the fuck? They better have some flash of it. And just like the infrastructure of the whole building is gonna be different. Like, it's gonna be like an actual experience, you know what I'm saying?

Is Gucci from Italy or some shit like that? A lot of that shit is Italian leather and shit like that. Yeah, man, it's gonna be fly. I feel like, yeah, also you'd have to be like interested in the history of where you're visiting. Because like, yeah, Italy's probably not as popular. is a letter. A pepperoni.

Like, there's probably not parties and shit. I learned about this new thing. It's called a pepperon. But if you go to Italy. What's the first place you're going if you go to Italy? The birthplace of Mario. I got to go. The first place I'm going.

First place I'm going is the fucking wine and sharkucci bore. Charcutary. I thought it's a carcucci. He's really Y and J in his head. You know what I'm what? Is Italian the only language you could imitate without being offensive? Italian.

No. No. You can imitate all know. You can imitate all the other ones. It's just racist. That's what I'm saying. But you could do Italian. You could do it.

Yeah, because I mean, there's white people at the end of the day, right? I mean, so that's it? I want to try to, the fresh is raw, is fresh off the brick parmesan cheese. That's what I was thinking when I was looking at that shit is if I went to Italy right now, I would probably just like eat huge meals every day and then spend a large percentage of the rest of the time recovering from the huge meals that I just ate. That sounds like, so it's going there to eat? That sounds like the best vacation.

What else are you doing in early? Look at some fucking. Yeah, you site scenery. You go to some famous-ass restaurants that have all kinds of weird local cuisine and stuff. You drink some wine, eat some cheese. Look at those weird-ass buildings. Eat some meat-buzz. But he's with his girls' family out there too, right?

Really? I think so. It's a whole family affair. Are you on his girl Instagram? Absolutely. Yes, you are, dog. I looked at it at one time. He sounded like he tapped.

Adi, Jeff, this is your phone Instagram. He's like, no. He's like, he's like, yeah. Her cousin, Lakeisha, she actually, uh, Oh my God. No, I'm tapped into his girl Instagram. You follow her? No, I don't follow her.

Whoa, but you just be searching it up to see? You follow my girl? No, I don't follow her either. Not yet. Not yet. Wow. I'll follow her. Yeah, y'all got to get a little more.

I like that idea. Yeah, we need to go on that date. Triple date. He didn't stand in Italy. You got to come to. One day, house phone going to get a sitch. Yeah, yeah. One day.

I'm working on it, man. I'm trying to have a family, man. One day. one day. Dang. When he stops beating her for throwing water on him.

No. It has to be like a That nigga said I woke up angry. I'm like what? It has to be like a middle class restaurant though. Why?

Nothing too crazy. I just asked him about this. Like where do you guys go on dates? He was like shit, a Mexican restaurant. I'm like that's cool. No, no, no, no, no. I forgot.

I forgot if it was Riley's birthday or if it was, what was it? Like maybe Valentine's Day or something? Yuri did it up, bro. Yeah, because he was asking those questions about like, He's like, do you have to really tip them 15 or 20%? Whoa, he loves Riley.

He went up, my boy. You know you love your girl when you ask your homies. Hey, what should I do, bro? Oh, God. I got a flower recommendation from him. Wait, you talking about downtown? Downtown is where you got to go. For what?

Food? No, for flowers. Really? Flower district. You could get a whole crazy custom-made. Like, you could get fucking. From a Kusky? No

It's the flower The flower district Yes Exactly You can get like A bouquet of like Chanel heart Basically like a lot of the flower

That's like a lot of the flower shops You go to buy their shit from there Yeah He just You want Chanel Funeral flowers He showed me ones But nowadays the crazy style

Is that they'll have like a weird shaped box That has like all the flowers With the short stems So they all fit into it And it looks crazy as fuck It's like It's just all about

Getting that fire Instagram photo What about your girl Love that shit huh She was into it No no no No, you want to know what's fucked up? I was fucking, I was emailing myself a fucking link that you had sent me to the flowers.

I was emailing it to myself. And me and her had been arguing the night before about if it was okay to put a period in an email. Because, you know, like, okay, if your email is, I do. I put a period for sure. Yuri at nojumper.com. If I type in yu. triy at nojumper.com, it'll still go to you. She didn't believe me.

But I was telling her that. I didn't know that. And so then I'm going to email myself and I noticed that for some reason in my phone, it had a period in between my name. And I just point to her and I go, hey, look, it saved my email that way because it doesn't matter. It could have a period in it. And she goes, why are you sending yourself a link to some flowers? Wow. And I'm like, you fucking doof is.

What was your excuse? What was your excuse? I didn't even think about that. I'm like, shut up. That's not what I was showing you. We were just talking about having like random arguments about the stupid. shit when you live together. Like, what a period in the email

you got. Can't relate. It wasn't like an argument. That was just standard Adam 22 knows something and really wants to let you know that you're wrong and he's right. Like listen, you got to start listening to me. All right. Yeah. A little bit of that. Yeah. Did you call her a moron? No.

You're fucking, I don't, I don't insult her intelligence. Why you sold my fucking intelligence? Parker is a smarter mom. Come on, you call me a moron a couple times. You were talking shit about somebody and it didn't make any sense in this situation I'm thinking of. No. Well, what, vaccination? No, but that's another one that I ended up being right on. They used to argue like literally every other day in the fucking group chat. Let's not go back to those days. There haven't been no arguments in a group chat. He said something about COVID the other day. I'm like,

well, they're not asking about vaccination cards. Fuck. He was like, fuck it. At this point, I'm over it. Okay, wait, one COVID question we can move on. Because I do want to get vaccinated, but how long am I supposed to wait after when I had COVID? Because that was like maybe like... You've been asking the same question for like four months, bro. I think you only need to weigh like a month. Because, nigga, I don't want to... It's three to four weeks.

I don't want to get fucked up again. That shit fucked me up. I heard it fucks it up regardless. Like, even the boosters will kind of like you feel kind of weird out. You go out there's a huge wave that they're saying is going to cut. I need to get that shit now. Because it keeps going in a good direction where it gets easier to spread, but the symptoms are less. That's what keeps happening with each additional round of it. So it's like if you get the

next one, it's like it's probably not going to be anywhere near as bad as like if you had cut the OG shit or remember Delta. I don't know. I don't know which fucking one I caught but nigga that I've never felt like that in my life and I never want to feel like that again. I was literally praying myself to sleep at night like couldn't breathe like bro like I really hope I wake up in the morning. It was bad. When I got sick I had the same thing too. I felt like I was like super shorter breath. I was like, bro, I came and breathe. I was like, am I smoking too much? Like, what the fuck is going on right now? That shit was scary, bro.

Honestly, that's why I stopped smoking for a week. It's because I got COVID and I was like terrified. I haven't smoked weeks since. Then I started smoking. I was like I was taking mad amount of vitamins. Oh, God. I was doing like, big of green drinks.

I was doing this. I was going crazy. I'm like, my body's going to heal for real. Y'all crazy. Hey, you know what was a good one, though? That somebody taught me like you like, you like, you like steam a bunch of shit like in a big pot and then you you put the towel over your head and like that's to get some fucking smell back my mom's told me to do that too well no it actually

was opening it up like that she was helping you breathe too bro it's like lemon ginger I was too lazy to do all that shit bro I couldn't breathe bro I needed to do there was a point you was scared as fuck nigger bro I was scared and like you know black mom's always gonna hit you with that baby I've been praying for you now oh my god no He's like, I'm just glad, Lord, I'm glad you listened to my prayers and you brought him home so he can heal. Wow. Because your ass would have been running around and you would have not made it. You know, your cousin over there in Michigan, he dropped dead the other day.

And I'm like, oh, shit. And then I'm like, should I go to the hospital? She's like, you don't want to go to the hospital. They got bodies and trash bags just throwing him out onto the street. And I'm like, what the fuck? That she was scared the fuck out of you. How could that just end? rapidly like niggit actually was scared the fuck out of me

dying like that just waning there's just less of it but there's still a shillow it's like it's super bad in china yeah it's like blowing up in China right now there's other areas where it's like going to get in again nigga where to hand sanitizer I hope that should come out here so gas prices can go down we can just go back in the house is that will happen I guess you're right I'm not a lie I really way too much gas I really go down in price you have to bro I don't want to wish that a pot shut out the gene views man why are you looking at her like that because she's been she's not one of the models she's

Don't objectify. Oh, she got you got to do that hands sanitized. That's nice. Someone's going to clip this. Hey, listen, you know why I fuck with Gene reviews? Because anytime I come out the bathroom, she was like, hey, you want some lotion, so I'm not actually. When you come out the bathroom?

No, I just meant, like, before we start the show. Why are you treating her like a butler? First of all, it's called a brother-sister relationship. You feel like you and her on that level? I would catch a body for Genevue. You should get in the apartment with her. Huh? I don't know.

You still talk to Yassie? I remember you said you would always talk to her all the time. Yassie? I haven't talked to her in a minute, but that's her to home. He's always got a different girl who's talking them down off the cliff. Oh my God. Talking me. No, I think I'd be talking them down up the cliff of anything.

But that's your life force. Oh, no, I've got over that. Hell no. Bro, I talk to like three people now. Well, besides y'all, I probably talk to like three people on a regular baby. The other day, I cut off all bullshit out of my life. The other day, when we were on stream, followers over at my house, right? He gets a call.

He's like, oh, it's a house when I got to take this. he's gone for like 40 minutes and you just hear ha ha ha ha ha just like giggling and laughing the whole time and at a certain point I'm like Allison

like how long does he talk to house one for and she told me she's like one time they talked to the phone for seven hours and I was like bro what the fuck

are you guys talking about for so long okay okay in my defense first of all wait wait wait wait wait wait wait I talked to AD the other day

on the phone for 45 minutes and it was like probably the longest phone call I've had in like the last 10 years okay hold on let me they were like giggling Let me set the scene.

Okay, first of all, the time when we talked for Mad Long, that's one of my fucking best friends in the world. He moved to fucking Switzerland with his wife, and he was gone for like two years. So I hadn't talked to him in Mad Long. So we kind of were just like, we were just catching up on like, bro, this nigga died, like, blah, blah. Like, we literally just talking about like. What were you doing during that whole seven hours? Okay.

How many times you jerk off? Okay. Okay, first of all, nigger. No? First of all, that got me fucked up. Second of all, nigga, I'm going to be honest with you. I think I had just got back to the crib and I was coming down. So like, low-key.

So, loki, by the time we got off the phone, I was, like, ready to go, like, actually go to sleep now. Because I got on, I couldn't sleep. It was high talking to him. Yeah, I was off the shit. That nigga had probably just woke up. Too, you ever had a good Coke night? I definitely did. Wow.

Where are you just talking to the homie or a girl or whatever for, like, eight hours straight? You ever talk to a girl so long that you just like talked to your like you didn't you're really not talking to her you're just like airing out every single thing that's on the inside of your brain you're not even thinking about fucking no more like fucking is like last on the agenda what you do when you're on coke is what you're supposed to do in therapy that at least sometimes maybe you should just airing everything out maybe you should get coked out and go to the therapist I can see how people just take that drug a lot though like me I used to go crazy I didn't feel like I was high until same yeah I mean until I took it at like 8 p.m and I was

still sitting up at 8 a.m. Yeah. Regular. It's crazy to think. The shit I used to do with people who work for me and shit. Like when we first got the store, me and Jason and Lennett, like, me and Lennon were doing like a photo shoot. So I'm wearing a suit and she's wearing like a crazy fishnet outfit.

Pretty cute or something like that? Yes. And we were with a couple of other girls and stuff that we were fucking, I think, and like a bunch of homies. And we were hanging out of the store until like seven in the morning doing coke and fucking smoking weed and drinking and shit. And when I think about that now, I'm just like, bro, like, what? what the fuck was I thinking?

Like that was such a different time of my life. The talking shit is the one thing that kind of steered me away from Coke my whole life. Never did it. I did it like once or twice. He did ecstasy every morning in high school. Yeah. After the ecstasy thing.

To be honest. You were just booted up at school like in math class and fucking 9 a. History math. All that shit. But honestly, I'm glad I got it out early because I got it out. And then once I was like 17, I don't want to do no drugs at all.

But you smoke fucking a pound of weed a day. It's nice. It chills me out. It's nice. It chills me up. You'll take a dab for like a dollar. Whenever I would see my homies do Coke where I'd be around like at a party scene, I see people doing Coke and they just start talking, fucking about endless shit. And you're just like, uh-huh, uh-huh.

And you're just like, bro, like, leave me alone. So what do you do now? Just smoke wheat and drink sometimes. Rockstar? Every weekend. I had rock stars here. I definitely went to Yuri's house a little booted up one time. And I felt so bad that I like texting the next morning like, yo, my bad, bro.

Like, I was like just like doing coke. in your living room. Like, that was so out of pocket of me. Honestly, like, people, you're not the first person to come through and, like,

do crud shit and, like, be like, oh, I'm sorry for doing that. Why don't we use it? I want my... I want my crib to be, like, an open place where my friends came home and relax.

I felt so comfortable, but then at the same time, I felt bad the next day because I was like, I know I was talking hella. We're on live stream. And, like, you know, I'm with, like,

two strippers. I have to be honest, the one thing that was upsetting me was like, it was, it was, It was like this was around your, when we started finding out about your health issues. And I was just thinking like, I really don't like the fact that you're turning up when you should be not doing that right now.

That's the fact. What the fuck are you doing? That was when, bro, this is when I first found out like all that shit. Come on. Now, don't have been to the doctor. Why are you not going to the doctor? Allegedly. He's on your ass way more than me.

He's sanctioning you. You scared. He's like doing some Russia shit to you. He's like not going to kick it with you. He's not going to buy no high rollers. He's not going to tag you on a story. The T-Rail sanctions are coming in Be honest, you're scared, dog

No, no, I'm gonna give you three different reasons. You're scared, one. Maybe a little nervous. Okay. Two, I honestly, like, I'll psych myself out and just, like, not call. Yeah, like, I feel a little better, and then I feel like shit.

And I'm like, oh, fuck, I definitely need to go. And then I feel better. And then honestly, like, bro, the third, but most important one is, I really have no. body to help me take care of my mom. That's a whole different story I don't even feel like getting into. But it's like my time window is like, okay, Mondays,

my mom does dialysis. I got to like get her food, get her back in the crib and all that on Mondays. I mean, I could at least call, though. I'm making up excuses. I'm making up excuses. I am. I'm not. I'm not.

I'm a fucking doctor for a couple hours. See what's wrong. But I can't even get an appointment. And then go back to home to your mom. I've been there. It's not an appointment. It's the ER, fool. throughout my whole life.

You know how many times I've been to the ER and gave me. going to the ER. Throughout my life, there's been like long periods of time where I might every day wake up and answer every single fucking email and then there's one at the end. It's just a reminder to myself like call about health insurance or something else that's just

responsible and boring and somehow I do all 47 emails and then I just leave that one because it's so boring it's so not fun. I so don't get anything out of it in the short term. So I feel you, but the way that I like kind of like make myself do shit like that

is I just try to think about like everything else in my life before I do like my responsibilities. I don't feel like I should be able to really enjoy everything else in my life. Like until I do my actual responsible shit, then I can't chill for a day and play poker or go out riding or come here and do podcasts. I have to get the fucking boring shit done or else I don't let myself feel good about the fun shit. Yeah. And honestly, like, I don't know. On some weird shit, bro, I haven't been leaving my house like that. Like, I haven't been like really, like y'all, y'all see, I haven't even really been on the, um, in the group chat like that.

I don't know what the fuck it is. But I think it's a broken phone. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to get another one tomorrow. I'm getting another one tomorrow. I got an appointment at Apple. But, um, yeah, I don't know, bro. I definitely am making excuses.

So I don't want to sit here and sound like, oh, like, but I just, I just got to do it, bro. I would like to, uh, bring up a real topic. Mm-hmm. A news topic, a clip channel topic. Let's do it. Everybody's subscribing to your genre clips. Going crazy, by the way. Nikki Minaj, today.

posted up, a article, a piece of an article, the Hot New Hip Hop had written about her, and it's just basically like showering her in praise, which of course she deserves the most credible female artists of all time in hip hop. No questions asked. At the end of the article, it includes, it says, like, you know, as well as the contributions from other artists like Meg the Stallion, Cardi B, City Girls, and Doja Cat.

Nikki Minaj goes into the draw part of her fucking phone and scribbles in pink, very on brand, over all of those girls' names in the part that they wrote about her. Now, it occurs to me, it's just a screenshot of what you can see on your phone. You can crop that. If you know how to draw over people's names,

you know how to slide it up, slide it up two centimeters and you wouldn't even see those names, and then you're not dissing them. So to me, that was pretty interesting because that to me says that Nikki ultimately just does, not have any respect for all the other top

girls in the game, doesn't want to give them their flowers. I was really honestly surprised that she's still holding on to that sort of attitude. Because when I look at a lot of girls in the game now, I see them encouraging each other and putting each other on and stuff. When I see Nikki do that,

it really stands out to me like, damn, she still wants to be an island. She does not want to fuck with it. And she even did a song with Meg. The island girl. Wait, but my main question was, why were they mentioned in the article? In the context of the article

they were just basically saying these other important female artists also did this. It wasn't like... But it also, like that has nothing to do with her. But like I said, she could have cropped it. I'll find you the sentence. I mean, shit, they could have just not put it up. But in reality, Nikki doesn't ever do

anything to any other female artists unless she's provoked or they said something about her in a negative manner or a negative way in the past. So they've done something that we don't know about like she doesn't do shit like that to people. She's just the greatest artist ever.

The part that she scribbled out at the end, I'll just read you the whole thing. This is the part that she posted. Yet, what's most astonishing and powerful about Nikki's impact on hip-hop is her presence and sometimes the lack thereof. Whether she's going on an unexpected freestyle or guest feature run giving a rare interview

or speaking her mind in a wild Twitter rant, Nikki Minaj's presence, be it oral, digital, or visual is absolutely enthralling. And when she's on hiatus, you can tell. Despite the welcome. contributions of women like, bit, bit, bit, bit, bit, bit, bit, bib. I know who it is, but she scribbled it out. Over the past few years, female rap still feels incomplete without Nikki.

So to be fair, if she had cut it off before that part, it wouldn't have made no sense. It wouldn't really make that much sense because it kind of doesn't complete the thought. I don't know, though, because, okay, you have to wonder if she considers herself to have equal levels of smoke with all the different girls, because I know she doesn't get along. with City Girls and I know she doesn't get along with Cardi. The Meg thing, I thought they were supposed to still sort of ostensibly be on good terms. And the Doja Cat thing also like, isn't Doja Cat out here like claiming to be a barb and like making it blatant that she's a fan of her?

I bet Nikki has either already put out a statement or is going to put out a statement tomorrow being like it was no disrespect to those girls. I just didn't want to include, you know, right or right. And like kind of justify it. But to me like, bro, you're scribbling out a name. It's like whacking out somebody hood. Why is it so crazy as a big thing when female artists do that shit When guy, when male artists can do whatever they want as far as beef as far as battle rap as far as anything?

Nobody takes it super crazy. The thing is that when a woman does that shit, it's just so like out of line. But we think it's petty of her to scribble their names out because it surprises us that she would even want to do that. Like to me, if NBA young boy had a fucking write up about him and he posted the screenshot and scribbled out like the names of like four. But those female artists contributed nothing to her career. But if the article said, you know, NBA young boy, which this is not really true, but if anybody young boy is like clearly influenced, you know, Lil Durk, King Vaughn, et cetera, and then he scribbled their names out, nobody would be surprised because we know they hate each other or whatever.

With Nikki, it's like, I think we're all surprised that she would have that level of animus towards all the biggest girls in the game. Who do you fuck with? Okay, but look. She only fucks with girls that are like a million times smaller than her. All the girls are a million times smaller than her. Not Cardi B, not mega, like, they're at least in the conversation.

Are you, what? In terms of record sales right now, Cardi B shits on Nikki Minaj, in terms of ticket sales, I would assume. Because it's a different time. Yes, but I'm saying. In these times, of course,

but in a time where we was at, fuck no, Cardi B is now fucking the Nicki Minaj at all. In terms of the overall legacy, yes, Nikki Minaj, Monage 100% is, is JZ,

compared to fucking Cardi B. But Cardi B right now, you don't want to see it because Cardi B is shitting on Nicky Mnajer. It might be, and that's why Nikki hasn't dropped the album. Because she doesn't want to have those numbers be side by side

because it's going to make it too obvious that she's number two. Because you're like, when you're putting your foot down like that means certain shit happened to you in the industry, man. And I just know, like, when you're putting your foot down

and you're talking that real shit, man, and Nicky Minaj is a real one. She's a vet, man. She's legendary. And when you're putting your foot down like that, man, and these industry cats, they want to do shit like, that they want to bully you and they want to put

somebody else in your spot they want to throw the numbers at it they want to inflate the numbers here they want to build the sales here but everybody thought she was like just being salty with the whole Travis Scott shit that was her last album right that's what I'm saying that very different era I know that was what because that's when

everybody could still do the bundles that was 2018 so if you were selling 150k or 200 care whatever she saw the last time without the bundles I'm not going to make it predictions but I don't make it It's going to be as good as a... But think about it. That means what?

Travis did like a ridiculous amount of numbers that time because... 400 or something? Yeah, right? Like probably four, 500 or so crazy shit. Crazy with the bundles. You got to see what this lady endured, where she came from, what she was doing, like who she was up against Kanye West, J.Z, Drake, Little Wayne. Like these young ladies are up against nothing compared to her.

Why would you not say that all the ladies today are against those people, not even them, but also other people. Cardi B has to compete with Travis Scott for people's ear time, right? But they're putting them in a category with Meg the Stallion and Dojicat and these other young ladies that's rapping, and they're not fucking with her.

The only person on that list that I think musically and, like, fan base-wise that can even come close is Dojicat. No way, Cardi B is way bigger than Doge Cat. You think so? I know you think she's cooler, and I know you think the Doge Cat is like the cool. I know you have a personal relationship

with her and everything. But Cardi B is gigantic. Doesn't she have more number ones than fucking Cardi B if we really? I don't know. But I mean, I know that when Cardi B drops another album, I expect it to be ridiculously gigantic. How long are people are going to wait for that? She's just going to turn into a social

media person again. When you're Cardi B and you drop a project that's that popular, it turns out you get to fucking coast for four years because nobody like... I don't think nobody's really waiting around for another Cardi B album, no. And if she drops a project and it's a dud, like we also have a Roddy. We also were having a Roddy, all of a sudden his status in the game seems a little bit more in jeopardy once

you put out a project and it doesn't do the numbers that your other project is. I think it's not happening to Cardi B, my friend. You're only as good as your last project. That's not happening. That's how people actively. Cardi going to come out and sell like 60K. Hell no. Oh no.

Are you crazy? You just refuse to admit that you sell more than Yeat. It is. Maybe she'll get a Yeat features so you could actually do some numbers. No, listen, listen, bro. It is. It is Nicky and I was Cardi B. Okay.

In all time? Yes. In all time? popularity? No. I don't know about all the time. In sales? No. In current popularity, I would say. Do you have your iPad or your computer? I mean, I could look it up all day. It's just it's not even a conversation. I think Cardi B. She came. She saw and she conquered as far as her music and like branching off from just being like a personality.

I think she over exceeded expectations. She did a great job. She is a fucking, I love her as a personality. but I don't think that her music career is going to carry on to have that type of legacy like a Nicki Mina. She never needs to put music out again. That's what I'm saying. And I don't think she will. Oh, she will eventually. Of course.

You think she's going to drop another album anytime soon? Yes, because it's been so goddamn long. They both have to because at some point, you know, like, Cardi B is doing the Rihanna thing right now. It's like, oh, I'm so, I'm so lit that an album could only hurt me. an album could only force people to reconsider me whereas where Rihanna is at in the game right now her not putting out music for forever

She's about to drop the baby She said fuck her album I don't give a shit what Rihanna album will sound like I'm not reconsidering her for nothing She's a legend yeah exactly But if she puts out an album and it does shitty sales I don't think that's possible for Rihanna though I agree with you for the most part because she's too big to fail

Yeah but if she does put out an album and the audience just says Like we don't really like it as much That that totally changes your status in the game. And with her, when she's already clearly like basically number one, why do that to yourself?

Why take the risk? Okay. Ride out the peak that you're on for as long as you can. But that's what I'm saying. Like, Rihanna does not ever have to drop another fucking lick of me.

Low key, even A's at rock, you don't have to drop music no more. He has to drop music in like seven years. Like, like yeah, probably like it's testing. Like an album?

Testing was like right when No Jumbers started and I remember listening to a couple times. No Jumper started? What's the year? That shit came out at least like 20, You have the worst sense of time And date.

Okay, okay. Look it up. Just look it up. Look it up. Asap, Rocky. Testing. Testing. Maybe at least 2017. Release date.

Yeah. I'm just saying it was super early on. Wow. Actually, May 2018. 2018. Okay. Fair enough. I stand corrected.

All I'm saying is that like, I remember listening to that album and being like, this ain't it. But over the years, I think it's kind of proven himself because he keeps getting on these crazy deals and stuff that his career doesn't base itself on music. And he's another. one where if he puts out a project and it does whack numbers, that hugely impacts

his legacy. It takes him away from legend status, you think? I think so. It makes people reconsider his status. And I think, because I pay real close attention, right? I noticed... Apparently, no, you didn't know when an album drive. This is fair. But I have a bad memory. Maybe a year ago or so, I remember noticing that all

the rap pages, I don't think we got it, but at the time, all these different rap pages started posting up, like, ASAP Rocket content that was clearly paid for. Basically, like, which was the most classic ASAP Rocky album, Ra, rah-a-rah. You know, like trying to like make everybody stimulate your mind and remind you that like, oh, this is a cool rapper that you used to listen to or whatever, right? And so then that happens. Then he drops a single. Then he drops like another single. And like,

I noticed that from my perspective, the singles were not really getting the attention that. I don't even know what singles you talk. Exactly. Because they put out records and they don't connect and then they just move on. And so I don't think, I think when the label is doing that, when they're dropping a couple of tracks here, when they're buying a bunch of meme promo to see. that's when they're sort of like gauging the audience does the audience want to hear you right now or like what what style of music are they going to go for and it's

you know it's tough to predict I mean that's hearsay in the industry because Kanye is doing that shit right now and his latest albums his last five albums hasn't done anything compared to what he started off doing but he's a legend in so many other ways he is but ASAT Rocky is too exactly he's on his way yeah

but I don't think but Cardi B is not there that's what I was saying Cardi B is not to that level yet y'all tripping But I feel like just Nikki Minaj posting that just feeds into the stigma that people say that she doesn't fuck with up-and-coming girl artists. Which that, I think, ultimately, is the main reason why I was surprised that she scribbled out the names is because I thought that at this point her perception of the culture would be you can't, you can't not mention all the other girls. She just dropped the record with Coleray. She just did a song with beer. Like, she's doing her thing.

They need to stop disrespecting my girl, Nikki Minaj. She doesn't have a Grammy like Snoop Dog. This is like the greatest artist ever. Snoop Dog doesn't have a Grammy? Snoop Dog does not have a Grammy. She goes in front with Bea, Bia and Coilerae. Why? Well, at least in part, because they're nowhere near as pot.

They're on the come up. So that's good though. That's good to get in early though. She's not going to go fuck with the girls who are already kind of threatening her spot. I'm sure she thinks of Meg as somebody who knows what's going to happen, but maybe she's like a real deal Nicki killer at some point. long to go mess with the girls that's up and coming? No, I think it's great that she does that.

It's to me it stands out that she's co-signing girls that she doesn't consider a threat. Okay, look, look, back to Meg real quick, though, because obviously they were cool. They did their song first. I think she feels some type of way because Wop came out after that. I'm sure that the Barbes could fill us in on, yes, and definitely I agree with that. But I feel like the Barbes could fill us in completely on the history of Cardi and Nicky or Nicky and Meg not getting along. I'm not sure the exact point about play.

I don't know why Vashty's here, but hello Vashty. Shout out Vashty. Shout out Vashty. She got to think about it too. Wap was like fucking way bigger than I don't even remember what the- I don't even remember what the-summer didn't do shit. I don't even remember the name of the song, bro. Hot Girl Summer didn't do nothing.

That's what I'm saying. And they try to like coin her whole little phrase and all that shit. And like, so you got to think about it. Maybe Nikki is salty about both of those things. Hell yeah. Like, oh, you're going to go fuck with the ops and you're going to go make a bigger song with the ops? Yeah, and because the other thing I thought I was funny about that is because when I was watching, somebody's calling me who I normally should pick up for, but I'm live on a podcast, so I'm not going to.

Pick up on that thing, yeah, fuck it, fuck it. I'm sure he doesn't. All right, fuck it. Big you. You got to tell him we on line. Oh, wait, we got a speaker. Sorry, big you. Hello, sir.

You got to tell him we on live. Also, it sounds like a butt dial. Definitely sounds like a butt dial. Hello? Yo, hey, just so you know we're on live, so don't say anything crazy. Oh, you're on live. Yeah, we're on the podcast live right now with T-Rell and House Phone

and this white guy named Yuri. Woo-hoo. I got Chip on the phone. You're on the phone with a white guy named Yuri. You've got a guy named, a white guy named Yuri. Hello, Big You. Hello, Big You. Is he a premium or is he?

Do you know more than one, Yuri? Yeah. Hey, shout to the Yuri. Shut up to the Yuri Nation. Big U, man. Well, you know, because my name is Big U, more people need to say it's a Uri. Oh, wow.

Wow. It all get all kind of crazy. Urika. Yica. Anything that sounds like a U. YR. Wow, okay. So are you with the man of the hour right now?

No, he's on his way up there. Oh, okay. Wow. You want me to ask him something? Huh? You want me to ask him something? No, no, we would just laugh at him. We were just laughing.

And I was telling me about our interview. And he was like, what? I was like, yeah. He's talking about the gonorrhea. The drip. Yes, sir. I love the Big You so hyped on me having gonorrhea and telling him about it that he's calling me, just to tell me that he was hyped on the gonorrhea.

No, he wasn't. He was calling me because he was calling me because he really didn't believe me. Now I know what he's going to come in on. He's going to come in trying to tell me like, hey, you need to see a doctor. Yo. I didn't even know he was doing you. I would have carried with him. Oh, I like that idea.

You should definitely come. Oh, no, because you're about to do A.D.'s podcast pretty soon, I think. He is. Coming up. I can do A.D. I can do it tomorrow. No, but he's in Italy. Oh, is it in Italy?

Yeah, he's cripping in Italy. Oh, shit. Next week. Next week. Next week. Hey, he's getting that much money in Italy? Hey, man, we're YouTubers now. We're podcasters now.

Hey, I hate to say this on air. I know we're on air, but before he met you, he was a poor rapper. Oh, my God. Thank you. Don't do him like that, man. You guys are supposed to stick together. Oh, the clip channel was on fire right now for that one. Oh, all right, Mickey.

We have a body hero, you, man. All right, Mickey, man. Come on. Don't do the homie. like that man. You can't do the me like that. Now he in Italy though, so you might have a point. Niggas in Italy.

Hey, man, y'all have a great interview, man. Much love. I appreciate you, G. No, I just came on to tell everybody you was officially a Crip now. Oh, Lord. Oh, I knew it. Big you, man. You claiming that, Adam?

Man, you know, I still got to go to Englewood. You can't be doing that to me. I got people I gotta go I gotta go much luck bro damn how's he gonna do that to me

dude congratulations our Nicki binaz shit up man god damn but you know what he was on a row that Grammy conversation did you know what happened

uh Jay Prince that Jay Prince because I was thinking about Jay Prince said something about um

not boycott the Grammys right and for Nikki Drake and like the weekend or something like that. Don't Drake got like 50 Grammys? To perform on the same day as the Grammys. As soon as I saw that, I was like, bro. Ooh!

And I feel like there's enough hatred of the Grammys within the rap community that I could see it. Nicky put prayer hands. Damn. So you got her on and you get a couple more. It's cold. Yeah, that would go up. Who's watching the Gramies here?

Bro, the weekend by himself could kill that. The weekend by himself, right? The weekend by himself. Imagine all the top artists, like the weekend just shows up. He ain't even booked. He just pulls up, belts out a few songs. Just as a fuck you to the Grammys. See, but you know what?

Niggas like that egos is so big. It's like, who's going to be the headliner? Like the weekend, Drake. They could all get together and sway back and forth. Like, we are the world. And don't just pick that. It's just like whoever's tired that day. Like, hey, man, you take the lead.

Yeah. No, see, but you know knickers like that. Laura's trying to get your attention. Oh, okay. I guess that means that. So we're doing one at a time when they both coming down sitting down. They're both coming on together. Yeah.

Okay. This is big. I kept the seat. I don't know. Maybe pass me some paper towels because I definitely drenched these headphones. You had them right there this whole time. Did you never ask for them? We didn't know you had a sweaty head.

Yeah. Niget. Josh, can you change the title? I don't pay attention to your perspiration like Trevor does. I'm sorry. Everybody at home prepared to get pretty hyped. I'm not to fucking trash.

Should I put my shoes back on for? Yeah. I think so. Just as an introduction. Should me and just leave now? Yeah, because they're probably about to come in right now. Thanks for having me on, guys. It was a pleasure.

It was a great time. I don't want to limp off camera, so I'm going to roll away and then push the chair back. That's very smart. Nobody can ever question Little Housephone's business knowledge, because that's a branding move right there. I think the cart might have been a branding move, too. I think AD's a great idea. Why did he just have to call AD broke? He said he was broke before he met me.

Does Big You not know that I'm going to do? be using that for the rest of my life. He was a broke rapper. No, he said he was a poor rapper. That's actually fucked up. I would not even mess with AD about that because I don't, you know, I don't like to. That's definitely not true. I'm sure he has a money.

We can definitely laugh about it. He was selling dick for $75. That's good bread. Was he? I don't think he was rapping. No, that was back in the day. I don't think he was rapping at the time. I mean, he seemed to be doing fine before no jumpers.

Big, Big you, being Big You, I know. I know he called you to see what the fuck was going on. He wanted to tell you some shit. Yeah? Yeah, he did. But he didn't tell me none that crazy. I mean, I know you was on life. Yeah?

If you said, didn't say you was on line. He didn't know I was live. Look at my phone. He had a guy that you like, hey, brother. Why am I looking at my phone? I don't see anything. You guys texting me? Because you're not.

At least not yet. Huh? Who? All ready? Wow. Wow. We're on you, Adam. you Adam she she gonna love me I love Nikki man I don't know what are you talking about

hey baby I love Nikki yeah do we know do we know if this is real ain't nobody bigger than you girl what are you looking at oh get at him Nikki get out right now man what do you look at him right now she already deleted it she already deleted it you start our name you know the barb's gonna be playing around with you with you boy oh well something you did something i'm kind of like confused she gonna get your ass man the barbs gonna be playing around in here man you know i'm saying let's go ahead nicky alleged man she had to fight against m&m conier west basically little wayne drake ain't nobody fucking with nicky what we can have this conversation all day okay this is what it was i think is because basically

there's a post on the no jump or social media that basically said that nicky did all those girls that we talked about before. And then she tweeted, should I add them to this huge defamation suit I'm filing? Go report. Telling us to report the post, apparently. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, here it is. She wrote report and block about the No Chumper page.

Oh, my God. That is so funny. That's not funny, man. Why does she scribble out their names if she didn't want to be viewed as dissing them? I mean, shit, if she ever. catches one of the conversation we just had. We're having a barbecue here, you know what I'm saying?

I'm still searching No Jumper and I'm seeing Nikki's fan saying, they react into Nicky's tweet on No Jumper Live. Hello M-A-O. T-Ral funny as fuck. Shame on you, baby. You know what I'm saying? The barbs love me in this bitch, you feel?

I might as well change my shit pink. I've always wondered what I would have to do to get attention from Nicky and Minaj. Like, what would it take? I don't know, but if she called me right now, said, sock your ass out. I'm gonna go ahead and have to do it. She probably had like eight phone numbers

since the last time you talked to her. Man, look, check this out, man. I'm kind of shocked by how little interaction I'm getting based, you know, I thought it was going to be like every fucking... So you did that on purpose? What? Oh, wow.

We posted it because it seemed like actual news, right? Oh, oh, that's the... Mickey Manas, those... Shaded, Doge Cat, Cardi B, City Girls, and Magistine. I don't know. I thought it was actual news. And then you come on here and talk about it. I mean, she scribbled out their names, right?

Like what is the part I mean they didn't contribute nothing To her career shit Don't put them in the article To me scribbling the name out Seems like shade though Don't you think I mean well fuck it put it in the record

Y'all want to beef Yeah I mean I just don't think that the No Jumper Twitter account was Saying anything about her that wasn't Essentially true don't you think scribbling out the names Is Shade Um You gotta promise when he comes in here

You don't talk about this the whole time It would be too easy What are they doing out there They kissing babies and shaking hands and shit Are they just cooling out there? I mean, not that they got to do anything on any kind of schedule. OG suicide enters the building. OG suicide, over 100,000 views.

I love you. I love you, bro. OG suicide, you want to sit down for a second? Let me just ask you a question. Bro, bro. Okay. How you doing? My bro creased his jeans.

He got a drummer gang hoodie? Oh, I'm fucking with that. That's hard. I never had a drummer gang hoodie. What the fuck? OG, creased a jose. jeans, man. He looking good, man.

I'm telling you, if there's an interview that I've ever done that I would encourage everybody who's watching this to go watch, it would be probably Oji Suicide because maybe not the most famous rapper, but gave me one of the most illest interviews, like the most personal in-depth, really had me like emotional on the fucking edge of my seat. Bro, when you said you sat down on the couch and the homies thought you was bullshit and you put the gun to your head, I had to cut. cut the shit off. You couldn't handle it? Oh my god. Then I cut it back on. I'm like, oh, he did it. I'm like, you cold. Then woke back up. But you know, I said, I felt like that when I had my

motorcycle accident. Everything just went black. I was gone. Then I woke back up in the middle of the street. Like, what do? I'm back. But that shit was crazy. I had that same blackout. It was like like the TV. Can I answer a question I was thinking about earlier? You have to learn to write with the different hand? Yeah. I'm impidextrious now. Yeah. I mean, but I can put the pencil in my hand and still write with my right hand. Oh, okay. Yeah. I have tried to write my name with my switch hand like many times and you know what's, you know what was the hardest for me. The harder thing for me when I had to teach myself how to wipe my ass with my left hand. Dear God. Oh my God. What's going

on, Josh? Why you got a worried face? What happened? What's it going on? I see Josh with a worried face. I start wearing. Oh, because you got hell of people that are going on the couch. Yeah, all right. That makes sense. That's a lot. It's a ton of people. Well, I don't know what a ton is, but apparently, you know, there's going to be some

couch space needed, which I guess makes sense, even though Ra really hurts to, hurts to boot the crew. But, hey, these things happen, I do suppose. What's going on, Kiki? Boot it up, boot it up, boot it up. It's good. I just seen Josh with a worried face. I was like, oh, hell no. Please don't tell me there's a thing.

I'm going to be real with you. kind of got to take a piss now is the time to do it yeah josh come with talk to tearex my boy's coming over here man we're having a one-on-one here man i think everyone wants this more than anything my boy josh here man my guy bro what's up man yo how'd you feel about being called out on kickball and handball this weekend oh my god i got so heated like that was even a competition with those I got mad at them know what happened right now let them know what happened so there's another podcast that do no does called the brown bag on I don't know what shit bag

yeah and he went on that podcast and called out everyone on no jumpers saying that do know is more athletic than everyone here more first of all let the let me I know what you did you set that joke up you set it up so perfect and my boy is Duno he ate on the joke and you was like oh well I mean is is Tiro going to be able to do it with two hands He's got to be able to play handball and then you you went like that I'm like She was thinking about that joke all week before she got in our office been you know where we ever have a handball tournament Or kickball tournament I'm gunning for you I'm gonna yeah you about this big how you gonna beat me? I'm on your ass man so we should have that kickball tournament or I said softball because I can still play baseball

walk and still do it up. I saw you run in the other day. You can run faster than most of the 20-year-olds in this office. Yeah, and I'm really young. I'll skunk your ass too right now. Probably. Well, what's up, man? I mean, we still love each other.

I mean, it was fuck Josh just for like two days. It was two, three, three days. I'm already over it. You already over it, right? I'm over it. So don't lie. I mean, when we first had that argument, did you take it home to your wife? No.

Did you tell your wife fuck T. No. I've said fuck T. I've said fuck T. T-Rell plenty of other times, but it wasn't that night. Oh, shit. None. Come on, Doc.

I don't know. It kind of depends. I feel like my Twitter isn't as lit as it should be for somebody who just got dissed by Nikki Minaj. I'm just going to throw that out there. I know. I feel like I was a bomb in the middle of the show. You guys are brothers-in-law.

I mean, who said I love you first? I don't know. If we've said it? Why are you getting up, Doug? I said it, right? I said it. Who said it first, though, Joe? I love you, bro.

I'm a gangster, so I don't necessarily talk like that to the homies that much. Of course, I love Josh. I love you, too. It just don't really occur to me to say that to anybody besides my girl for the most part. What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? They're all out there.

Tiptoeing around, waiting for our guests to get here. How many people is it? Two people that are getting on camera. Yeah, I mean, I don't know why they ushered you out of here before the fucking people didn't even pull that. How many people outside? I don't know. Is it a lot of people outside, Kiki?

There ain't nobody else up. There's nobody out there. You brought these dickies? Yeah. I'll take it up here. For sure. Based on what I know it could, he moves around like the fucking president, you know. He got the real deal security movement, you know.

Oh, he got security. I mean, I just assume he's way too famous to be dipping and diving like a fucking regular guy, you know? Man, who the fuck are we interviewing? You seriously still don't know? You don't remember? No. The president. I told you he's wild like the Taliban.

The rubber band man. Oh, okay. I mean, Big you already said it, so I kind of feel like, you know, shit. But I feel like niggas wasn't listening because I heard him say it. It was on the phone, so they might not have heard it. Yeah, I mean, I remember once you said him and the son and I was like, ah, okay. Yeah, that was a tip too. That really gives it away that easily?

That was a tip. There's not a lot of rappers who are out here doing music with their kid, don't you think? So first we got kicked off of the stream and then we got kicked off the couch. Yeah. And you got kicked off the couch back into the seats. You've got to have Terell represent you. He's a damn host. You was like, you know what?

I'm like, you know what? I'm like, you know what? I'm like, hey, listen. I'm like, listen. I'm like, shit. I'm like, listen, man. Y'all niggins get some motherfuckin' respect for my name

soon they told me you get off the Calgary I'm like well damn where else you want me to go now you missed it though so apparently So apparently Adam told Josh he loved him like first when they really first met and shit like that I said who love you? Is that what you just got from what he said? I thought he did y'all get to

that I thought he just said that he said it first I didn't know my boy was that sensitive and shit like that Adam? I didn't know he had emotion Adam has zero emotion. Well, he told Josh he loved him. That's not true.

I do remember Josh got drunk as shit on me on family vacation one time before. He was like, but I really appreciate you, but I really like knew him that well, you know? And I'm pretty sure we were having some very, very deep talks. I don't know if it happened then. He's like, thanks for walking me into the fam, bud. Josh is like, who loves who first?

Yeah, who loved him? Josh. Josh. A hug is a mutual thing. It takes two. No, who leaned him first? He leaked him first for the hug. Josh was like you'd be the best ice hockey team player.

What about that clip, and you give an AD some top? No, wait, me. No, that was house phone. Oh, yeah, it was you? No, it was you. Yeah, you were. There was a sound effect and everything.

No, that was you doing that to Blasey. What are you talking about? No, there was another clip that came out that you didn't know the camera was on, but you slurped up to homie, dude. Stop it. Yeah, I think... At first, I thought it was a slick edit,

but now I think it was real. It's 100% real. And that makes me feel weird about both Beasts and Lowell Academy. I mean. Oh, my God. Your boy only going to have 30 minutes on his stream. Well, he said he was going to put a sudden 30.

Are you worried about a defamation lawsuit from Mickey Minaj now? No. Jesus. That's not scary. I think her idea of like what it would require to file a defamation lawsuit seems kind of off because I'm pretty like just for starters. You have to be able to prove financial damages. In what way does that tweet? Hey, man, I'm going to have Snicky come in here and slap the shit out of you.

Oh, my God. What's their nigga name? Big, Big, Big, Big, scary or something like that? Scared pro or something? Big Zoo. Big Zoo. Big Zoo. Big Zoo going to put them hands on you. You better stop playing.

Shit, that's why I got to stay quick. You seen them? All right. Then, I'm going to give it a couple days, man. You used to kick it with Big Zoo? I feel like she's your, I feel like Nikki Minaj is your close friend. She is, right?

Yeah, you know what? I didn't think about that. He's just holding on. He figures, you know, maybe down the road. Is there a tyke? Is there a tiger? Is there a tiger, is there a tiger Nicky Minaj song? It has to be, right?

Back in the day for sure. But like, not one that I could think of. Google it. Maybe like a young money compilation. As long as we're being Barb's on this podcast, I do want to just acknowledge that one of my favorite

Nikki Minaj storylines from back in the day that never really like went too crazy was like basically Gucci when he was going through his shit where he was super fucked up on drugs and everything. He texted Nikki

because I believe he posted the text at one point and said basically like I want you to do a song in a video with me and I don't know if she didn't respond or she just said like, no, I'm sorry it ain't happening, but he proceeded to go in. And I just remember that being a weird moment in my life where I'm like, bro, even if you're Gucci,

you got to be real. I mean, you got to be real. I should have been a weird moment in your life. You know, you're like, damn, I'm a groupie. I actually believe this shit. You don't think that was real? Fuck, no. You thought the Gucci was half?

Was fake? Man, look. The meltdown? I watched every second. Everybody. That was my favorite artist at that time, by far. I was paying attention to every moment of him

tweaking out on Twitter about all that shit. Because it was one day going in and talking about oh yeah, me and Walker used to be doing whatever with Nicky. I don't know to say it because it feels sacrilegious. Then he's all the sudden crazy shit about Yo Gotti. Every day, just a new war. Well, he did go crazy on me though

one time. We're not that going to you. He went crazy on you? Because I extended the left and my hands fucked up. Oh. And Gucci said you can't do that? He was like, don't be standing on left, that's disrespect. Damn, I've had people told me that same thing before. Where were you? Explain to him. I was at the studio, I was at Chalice right there on

the bray. And he was like, don't be standing your breath. Did you explain to him? And then I explained to him and he was like, all right, sorry, homie. Oh, wow. I've had people told me that before. He said, sorry. That is the biggest Gucci Man story I could have ever heard in my life. Where I grew up on the East Coast

though, I always thought that was a thing. Like, you can't show love with your left hand. Like, in New York, I feel like that was a really big thing. On the West Coast, tell me if I'm wrong, but I feel like it's more of a normal thing here, right? No, they don't understand it left. No, people don't understand the left.

No, one person, nah, I'm going to be a crazy story. We his backstage at Summer Jam. Nah, like, they extended the left hand. And I was like, and I usually don't do this shit. I got another story, too. I usually don't do it. I'm like, fuck. I extended the left. And then, I was like,

because it's Nas, I got to meet you. I got to meet you. Yeah. And I was like, excuse the left. Like, I always do it because I'm like, you know, insecure about that shit. And he was like, it's all good, bro. The left is the heart. And I just like almost cried right there. I would think like it's a band connected to your heart. Like, I said, it's a band connected to your heart.

They go from your hand. And I was like, almost crying. Bro. Wow. That's it. Hey, this thing is crazy. So I'm like, that's just. That's the most like, gnaz majestic.

Bro. For real. That's a heart. Bro. I was like, bro. I was like, this shit is crazy. Are you still pissed off at Duno's female co-host for disrespecting you? Who?

Who? On the, on the Duno podcast when she was kind of clowning. Who? We were all talking about it in the group chat. What's her name, Lottie, Ledy? Oh, Ledy. Oh, yeah, we were just talking about that shit. Where she talking about some, yeah, or can we, can T.R.

Use both hands and play handball? But do you think she really knew? That's what I'm saying. No, she set that joke up. Yeah, she did say it. She said that joke up. You think they be writing their jokes before they do the podcast? She definitely wrote that joke.

They got a writer's room. She definitely wrote that joke and do those stupid ass. He just bit. Like, oh, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. I love that. Let's make fun of my friends. But you like on some shit where it's like, Shardie, I don't even know you. So you shouldn't be joking around me like that.

No, I'm not on no shit like that. Yeah, she's straight. Okay, okay. I think what people, when you joke around and you, you know, people feel like you lightweight comedian, they feel like they can be comfortable with you and throw jokes out. And I feel like when people laugh and joke, you get a little bit more. their personality and people open up a little bit more.

So I like that shit. Did you roast her back? Did I roast her back? Oh, not yet. Do you even know anything about her to diss her with? Because from my perspective, it's like she's Latina, I believe, and she's a woman. So it's like... What is that?

If you just went on that, you could get yourself in a lot of trouble. I've been falling up in these radio stations for the last eight years. Yeah, this nigga guy. It's bad. He got media trainer. Oh, no. She did me. She said, no, don't do it.

I know what you did when you were an intern in 2012. Oh, no. Sorry. But it's okay. When I see her in a person, I'm going to give her a couple of jokes. Not too crazy. Yeah, yeah. You got some lined up already.

You got to take it easy when you fucking with girls on the internet because you always are at risk of looking like a fucking bully no matter what. Oh, not. See, that's the thing with me is that I will go full ballistic and like not even care. Have you seen all these clips of Ack talking about Meg? Going crazy on her. He got her on that. the meek mill card list you know like he he's straight up like but but he's doing it differently where

he's not fully trashing her because it's a woman so he doesn't i think he wants to keep a certain tone with it where it's not like he's attacking her a certain tone but he's still saying what do you got to say she got on instagram like saying something about him though right she popped it off with him i don't think i don't think he ever would have like decided to take this tone with her if it wasn't that that's one thing you could say about academics like either even when it came to me and his situation. A lot of the times, academics won't go crazy unless somebody else stirs the pot first. Or he has his facts down.

Yeah. He is not saying nothing unless he knows it's factual. True. Which is not playing any games. It's honestly respectable because, you know, here at no jumper sometimes we just, we go off. Like Adam just did with Nicky. What? Yeah.

Adam had no fact, man. Yeah. I don't feel like that's made. I feel like, like you get that perception. You know what I mean? You're like, oh, like, I've heard of this before. Like, I heard she doesn't fuck with, you know, a smaller artist. And then you see a post like that. You're like that you're merely going to assume, you know.

I mean, I don't understand the defamation claim because I'm sorry, if you post a thing that has a bunch of the other top female rappers who scribble their names out, anyone in their right mind would take that as a diss or a night, if not a dis, you know, throwing shade, as they say, you know, it's like, you know, and I say, like, she hate them personally, you know. We didn't say that. We didn't say that. We didn't say that. We didn't say that.

We didn't say that. We didn't do that. I mean, we read the post. I mean, first it, I know for a fact that a large percentage of the No Jumper social media team is a very, very large Nicki Minaj fan, or at least I'm assuming that because I assume that most girls are. You think because they're women of color now? They're automatically barbs. Are you guys big Nicki Minaj fans? Thumbs up or thumbs down?

I saw a nod. Gina? Gina? She not even listening to her. She too, L.A. She got a head. phone in. Are you in you in love, Nicky Minaj?

Are you in love a Nicky Minaj? How could you not love Nicky No. Oh. Her app was in the post? Oh, before that. Oh, yeah, yeah. You better be looking out from that defamation lawsuit.

Yo, I wonder. Lawsuit coming soon. I wonder if they came down to what you think Gina were arrived for me or do you think she would throw me under the bus? She's definitely switching to the Minaj side. For sure. If he came down to it for show. She's like, he didn't even give me a mic.

Gina said she lowered to the soil. You fired Dita. What? Somebody tried to flip her. Whoa, pause, boss. Okay, now flip her to the other side. Yeah, put some respect. You fired Dina.

You fired Dina. Damn no. JRE hit up Gina and she denied. Get out of her white boy. Drop the name. Drop the name. Drop the name. Who was it?

Nicky, who tried to take you to the other side? VBC. The BBC? Come on. Academics. Damn. Oh. He's looking for his.

He's looking for his new podcast. But you know, I got to give credit where credit is due because you already show a Yassie out. But her Nikki Minaj fandom was like nothing I ever seen before. She would be like, oh, it's like when Nikki said on the 18th song on her second Adam she said this is and she's like quoting it like fucking scripture.

Like it's the Bible. And I'm just like oh so they weren't kidding about the barbs like it's real and you are like really one of them. Okay. No she's deep into it actually. Yeah she's going to take the stand during this defamation lawsuit. She's going to start her own fucking law law firm. They told me they were in the big leagues.

She's going to start her own law firm just so she can sue you with along with Nick If Nicky bought that episode, she's going to hate you even more, though. I don't, everything I just said there is shit that I would say in front of her face, but I felt like I was fair. Fuck, no, you wouldn't say that in the first. You know, I love how people think that I'm going to be intimidated by rappers in real life. You were intimidated by Black Tanna when she was sitting here.

How? When I disrespect the fuck out of where she walked out after 10 minutes? You were scared of this book. Like, you're just going to walk out? She was not having it with you, though. Nobody who has a good judge of personality or what is happening, a social situation. could ever watch that Black China thing and think that I seemed intimidated by her.

I was asking her about rappers that are like 18 years old that she fucked like back in the day. I'm like, I'm asking her about fucking with kid boo. Is that something I would do if I was intimidated by her, T.Row? Did she answer any of those questions? Hell no. That's why she walked out. Oh, she was off you after that.

She was trying to talk about the music. Nick, what music? The music? You ain't noticed it's blowing up. She's going crazy. Huh? No. I'm like, are y'all for real? I'm thinking like

Nicky I'm not really live under a rock At that time No Graham no Twitter When I went and watched all her music videos I started realizing like Oh shit she got a different ghost writer For every son She got like a Detroit song

She got a drill son She got a Sheparder Her video Her videos is fresh though She got a video One of her videos is at Jeffrey Starr's mansion I remember during like Oh the fucking

How you know what Jeffrey Starr mansion Look like you've been there I'm molested there No I don't want to talk about it You do it look like a preview best in team Wow

You think that's what he's into Allegedly I just fucked up The clown people Like that happened Like Yeah I just Yeah

That's what he really did Get diddled That'd fucking be so awkward Yeah that was Yeah I'll look at I'm sorry Yuri

Hey look I apologize For mocking your dittling Wait wait Wait wait Just why we talking about Yuri

I will say bro I'm really proud of you bro remember your name to now. I'm like, bro, you're, you're, you're literally transforming into the goat.

He was probably around me for a long time before I knew his name too. That's just because I'm a fucking asshole. You transformed into the fucking have goat, have human, bro. Thank you. I appreciate that, man. Two-headed goat, him and Riley. He had a fucking thousand people watching him sleep.

Weirdos. He's cultivating a crew of people who are fucking one and watch a guy sleep with his underwear tucked up his asshole. He dealt because of the fight. Yeah, well, for sure. This is before the fight. This is the night before the fight. Oh, yeah.

Tell us all about the fight. Oh, wait. I thought she made the fight between me. That's a disconnected. Disconnected this Thursday. The racially charged fight. Oh, my God. Somebody threw a sticker.

Hesch got this, but that was before there was a million tags. He got the Jinko sticker of his name, but that's before everybody had their name up here. Hatch was doing. Hatch be doing this thing. He knocked your ass out. First of all, he did.

Ain't anybody else out. Ain't anybody knocked me out. I didn't think he was actually going. He sock Hakeem out. Whoa. Hey, yo. Hey, listen, nobody's seeing the Hakeem fake.

There's no footage. There's no footage of it. He's beat Hakeem ass for sure. How do you know? Nigga, I see Hakeem. I see Hakeem beat a nigga up at ComplaceCon that one year. It was a video of it. He was talking shit about me.

No offense. No offense to, to bro. That's right. Hakeem. You know him. I'm just saying. I don't know if I know. or not. I was like, you know the ops?

I could know. I could know. It was like a crystal meth tweaker just talking about. No, it was it like a nigga that'd be around. It was a nigga that be around. I didn't even see it. Oh, yeah. Oh, bro, what Phil is throwing hands before anybody if we really be honest? For real.

The day the store opened. I think Jason, I think Jason is throwing hands too. I've never seen Jason fight. I'm saying I think that he would. I'm not saying that he's throwing slow. Jason came up rough. I think Trev might throw some hands too, honestly. He's going to grab his camera.

He'd think it would be the first run. Treb, were you a scrapper like when you were younger? No, I don't know. I don't know. I never got that energy from it. He never talked about it. Now, look, Trev just be talking so much shit that he better know of life. Because he'd be talking mad shit.

So when he take that hat off, he's automatically back white. Oh, man. Take that hat off right now. You look at all of the culture. Take the hat off. He's like, all right, I'm editing you out the next vlog, bitch. Get the hat off. Remember we used to always tag Sorrella instead of you?

I know that was you. I think some other people get a little bit. That's funny, all right? Hey, speaking of Sorrella, nigga, I need some switch, bro, so she can keep an eye on them. Sorella.com, man. Come on, man.

All right, say less. I got you. Got you. I got to work on the collab, man. We get in a new store. Where's my collab? We got to do something. I told you about the collab, bro.

Let's do it. You got all the girls. Yeah, really you need. Yeah. No, he just want to take your a Sorella shirt, put a little basketball right here, like tiny. Can't even see it.

I mean, that's fire. Bro, these dinkies are hard as fun. That's fire. These shits are mad simple and they're hard. Those aren't his? No, but I'm just saying like, you could do simple shit. Yeah, that's the homie shit, man.

Shout out of him. Is it ethically produced? Yes, sir. Are you ethically produced? No, he's from Russia. They're fucking killing people left and right, bro. Come on, we're about to fire. You just to show support these.

Wow, that's crazy. That's why you did that sleep stream. No, you know what's crazy? We stopped paying them. You know what's crazy? Bro. Everyone's kind of like, wait, did you? Do we think he's actually coming in?

He's not. Wait, wait, wait, wait. He's out there, though? No. Because they were stressing like he was going to be out of here by 8.30, so I'm just kind of, you know. Wait. Listen.

Somebody got to go kind of like poke him. Somebody to make sure. Listen. I don't know. You know what's the craziest part about the incident that should not be talked about until Thursday on 6 p.m. and disconnected? They all know. But yeah.

Yuri's homie was Ukrainian. Oh, whoa. Hesh was hired by the Russian army. The guy is so, yeah. You lied, dog. Why'd you stop it? I swear to it. I didn't stop anything.

I got up and turned the camera around. No American support. You wasn't in here like, stop it. Okay, stop. Okay, stop. That's that one. That's that I want to see you dig his fight. That's because it's like, I just see like hell of hen.

I'm not going to throw myself in the middle of it and be like, come on guys. Who was really, who was the... I want to ask you on. Disconnected this Thursday, 6 p.m. But you want to know it's funny to me. I have a full break there. I remember I was in back of the store one time, and there was a girl there that was like a fan of me or some shit.

I think she had come to, like, give me some art or like, I don't know, she just want to hang out, I want to catch a vibe. She was like a big no jumper fan. This is back 2018 or whatever. And there was a fucking, there was a kid like with her. Like, she's a Spanick and she got a little brother. was Hispanic and he honestly might have been 17 18.

I know he's talking about. And he says the N-word and fucking Hed starts weak and on him like really like when the store pressing him hard. No, they've been open for a little while. But Hesha's always been that kind of guy where like if you have a questionable N-word pass, which I do not think Chuck does, although this kid was like Mexican or whatever. So he, you know, I'm sure he probably sends it around his friends.

I'm sure that they think it's fine. Hes do be tripping on people about that. So I wasn't really surprised. I've seen it before more or less. And it's fair for him to be. you know, to do it on it. Because that was awkward. You can't tell a black person to not be mad about that.

Yeah. Or how mad to be about it. It was just, okay. Energy, dude. It was just funny because the nigger tried to be like, all right. So let me explain. Wait, wait, hold on. You're not.

You got your leaking. I'll leave it at that. I leave it at that. I leave it at that. Um, but, dude, that. We talked about that for like six hours straight afterwards. You guys are freestyling about it for like an hour or two. that was a really fun part

apparently our guest is here our guests are here so thank you guys so much appreciate you guys damn this one goddamer two hours I guess I can't feel that bad T-Rail burning the midnight oil over here

we started early we started early yeah he definitely got two hours in two-headed goat two-headed fucking goat oh my goodness and all this splendor

oh my god damn Ready? That's class right there. He says hi to everybody in the room before he sits down. Why, why does he look, he looks younger as he ages. What's that about? Yeah. What's going on, Domani? Excuse me. My man, see y'all. See, hold on. Excuse my left, man. Okay, no problem, no problem, no problem. No respect. Excuse me left, my brother. Yes, sir. How you doing, guys? I can't complain, man. Yeah, you, you're doing the media day? You were just with big you? Nah, man, that's my brother. We were golfing.

Oh, you went golfing today? Yeah, we was at there golfing hitting balls and kicking it. How long does it take to do a day of golf? Well, to be honest, which we were only playing nigh-ho, so it took us about three hours. Really? Two, two and a half, three hours, something like that. That's amazing. That's what you really made it in life and you can just take a day to golf, huh?

What you mean? But nah, I don't take a day to golf. I just... It's like a morning thing? Yeah, I just got up and went. That's fire. I got up. They said they were going.

I need these. It's up to you. Oh, I really know. But wow, that's fire, man. That's like the one thing. Hey, man, that's experience right there. Yeah, because he got the hair to worry about. Yeah.

That makes sense to me. It really running your jeans. This young man. This is exceptional right here, brother. This is crazy, brother. You're on a whole other level doing this stuff, man. I'm really taking this serious. You know, usually when you got, you know, your pops is established.

and then you, you know, you're kind of well off and rich. They really don't be taking the kids serious. Right. This would be the one right here. Like, that be the one. And I don't know why our culture do that. I'd be feeling like, you know, they be feeling like, you know, we want to talk about guns and drugs.

And that's all the thing people can kind of relate to, you know. Well, the thing is, I mean, you know, it was heavily laced and kind of tethered to my music because it was a huge part of my experience. Exactly. I think he has a different experience, and that's why the outcome is different, and that's why the material is presented. Yeah, it's definitely all the ways about the music, though,

and then the level of the, you know, like the music and what you're doing with it, like, and you're definitely taking it serious. It's definitely where it needs to be. I give you an example, right? So my other son, King also does music, right? And he has taken quite a lot. the different approach. But that's because, and I mean, when I talk to him about it, he's like, man, my experience

is different as a kid. He's been places and done things that, you know, kind of align him with my childhood a little more than I might like to consider. And that's something that he is making me aware of. You know what I'm saying? I say, well, you think you know a kid. You know, and here I am, thinking I knew you all this time. You've been Kaiser-Sosez, the whole way.

He was just good and not getting caught. I guess that's just, I get that in position. I don't know, bro. I just, you know, we all, we kids, we have a different perspective, you know what I'm saying? Now he's graduated high school, you know what I mean? And I always told him, at high school, that's, you know, that's mandatory. That's what you got to do. You got to get that behind you.

in order to even to start the plan. Yeah, that's what my mama told me that too, man. She was like at least graduate high school. Before you can begin to put a plan for your life together, you got to get school behind you. And that's what he dedicated himself to doing. He graduated early, actually. But isn't this kind of a bizarre thing that,

I don't know if it's an American thing or if it's a hip-hop thing, but like in many cultures or in many worlds, to have a rich, famous dad would clearly be a good thing. You're part of an illustrious bloodline, you know? You're like coming from, clearly you're coming from a gene pool of other super talented people, and that would be a great thing. But for some reason, like, with hip-hop in particular, we're so in love with the idea of, like, you coming from nothing

and becoming great. And somehow, like, the culture has a hard time except in someone who hasn't necessarily done there, you know? Everybody loves another dog story. Yeah. You know what I mean? But that's what's weird. I feel like you're the underdog

because you came from that world. That's another perspective, yeah. That's what I was telling him. I tell him like, I mean like, it's all about perspective, all about how you look at it. That's right.

You know, if you buy into the story or the narrative that, you know, you had something given to you and that's why you are. If you buy into that narrative, then that becomes your reality.

But if you know that your reality is as so and as such, then that's, That's the only thing you see. That's the only thing that matters. And that's the only thing that shall exist in your world. But I remember him saying something that really surprised me and that I thought was pretty cool.

He was like, I would be going to school and I have some shoes on. And a fucking kid would be like, those shoes are $1,000. Those shoes are $2,000? And you'd be like, damn, are they? I don't know. I was like, that's the most unintentionally fly shit I ever heard.

I really didn't know. But I'd be like that too I have some shit that somebody just gave me And I'd be wearing it and people would be flipping out about it And I'd be like, oh, I'm not like really concerned With how I'm adorning myself like that So I'm not really thinking about it Exactly

How does music make you feel? Like does it make you feel whole When you recording? Man It's um As a kid I was all over the place So Not that it's just music It's uh that's my

That's my creative release That's what I would say That's how I express myself. You know, I walk around. I'm always thinking about everybody else. I run into a lot of people I don't know. So, you know, I don't know. I'm just kind of, I'm closed in.

I would say I'm not, what is it got? I'm an introvert. Yeah. So I'm an introvert. Reclose. Exactly. So when I'm in the studio, I get to, like, really spread my wings and, like, just not thinking about nobody, not thinking about how nobody would feel.

just be as creative as possible. That's how you wear all throughout school. See, as a father, that's funny that you should mention that because I was just about to say, as a father, that is so it is mind-boggling to me because coming up, he was the absolute opposite. I was, yes. His older brother was the recluse,

and he was the outgoing, when him and King were the outgoing when play outside. My oldest son, Messiah, would be like, man, y'all go here playing the game. You know what I mean? They always got entombed. and he never did get in trouble. All the time.

He was the antagonist all the time growing up. All the time growing up, he was the antagonist, and I think then something just changed. And he became, I think it was, I think it was his first real girlfriend. I think so. She fucked you up? I think it was, you know.

Somebody heard about dude. A lot of us were a different person before we had our heartbroken the first time. in the first time. Let's be real. Go turn. Those tables always turn when you get older, though. But it'll switch back for sure.

Yeah. Especially becoming a rapper. I don't know what made me start thinking that way, but I just started thinking about how other people would feel. I don't know if I, yeah, that's why I'm just real sensitive. I just, I'm thinking about, I don't want to, you know, nobody takes something the wrong way or get the wrong impression because a lot of time we don't even know people, like, really look up to us,

people like really hold us to a certain, you know, pedestal in their life. And I just like to be real careful with how I speak to people. I appreciate that because I care absolutely nothing about how people feel. That's where I'm at right now in life. Yeah, because do you ever, like, you know, feel like, man, I got to protect Pop's legacy. I have to.

I don't feel like it doesn't need no protection. He's done all the work that, you know, can't nothing like penetrate what he's done. I constantly wonder if my kid is going to get how fucking hard that I had to work to get where I'm at, you know? Like, because she's one. So it's like, you know, she got plenty of time. But I'm always wondering that like, is she just going to take all this shit for granted? Like, am I ever going to be able to get her to understand how fucking hard I worked for all these years in order to be able to have the shit that I have now? I have a question for the money.

And you being so careful and mindful and mindful of how others. feel and how it makes you kind of do less. Does that, do you ever feel that that stifles you, or does that make, does that kind of inhibit you from being who you want to be at sometimes? No, I would say it gives, it makes me, me knowing that that's how I am, it makes me feel a lot better when I choose myself. So music, that's me. Like, you know, and, you say you give them all of this consideration, so they can

stay out your business whenever you do choose to do it your way. Exactly. Okay. Yeah. It's fair exchange. Yeah. Elocor. I like it.

We're learning each other here. Only on the no jumper show, guys. Father's son actually bonding on television. Okay. I have an important question, and I wish that you knew that you were going to be doing this interview, so I could have filled you in on this. But they just put their first song slash video out together, which is like, you know, I feel like in a large part, he's always known that his challenge was going to be able to make his music dope enough that people wouldn't necessarily think about his dad the first time that they think about him.

And probably the big part of that was not hopping on a track with him when you were 11 or whatever. But now you guys finally decided to work together. Like, how did that happen? You hear the beat and you were like, Dad, we could maybe do this together? Or did you just get in the studio together? Man, I think, I don't know. We just both decided that it was time for this. and then my brother was making beats.

Messiah, he made that beat. So he pulled that up, and then, I don't know who heard it first. To be honest with you, he was playing the beat. We both heard it, and we both wanted to beat. We were both working on our own respective albums, but we both wanted to beat. And so I said, I told him,

I said out loud that I wanted to beat. And then he said something like, oh, for real, you do? you want it for real? I was like, yeah, he kind of like, awesome. That ain't you. Kind of like, he did with one of them, you know what I mean? Kind of like, you want that? For real?

I was like, yeah. So then I left and came back here to lay the bird. I said, oh, this nigga thing, you're going to take the goddamn beat. So then I said, oh, I got some. So I went in there, and I did my verse. And then we lived with those two verses, and then I think maybe a day or two later, he did another verse. I said, oh, he wanted to make it his song, do it?

I said, I got another verse too. Now, how about that? Do you usually sit in the studio with Pops? Like, does he, like, kind of, like, you know, intimidate you a little bit when he start rapping and giving off his verses? No, I used to always go to the studio with him. I would be, like, the only kid that would go to the studio.

Everybody always wanted to go play and wanted to be in the house. I would always be interested. But you're talking about right now as the artist. Yeah, right now. Just right now. Yeah, make music. I have a question associated with that. Do you remember any?

like what people would now consider famous sessions. You remember being in any famous sessions? You don't remember when we were, the studio that you actually have today, that was the same studio that I first met Andre 3,000. Andre came in there.

I didn't know all, I didn't know too much about him, but I knew, of course, the hits. So he was in the booth. He was playing him music, and that's when y'all had, that's where the song, Sorry came from.

Yeah, so you was playing him music, and you was like, yeah, you can get on all this, whoo-woo. And then, yeah, so that's when I first met him. And then I had, you was telling me about him and I had Dover to his music. That's one dope, legendary session, I would say. To that question, too. I don't remember any of this. It's all just a blur. This is all like, you know, now that he speak on it, I do kind of remember.

It was in the A-room. Yeah, it's in the A-room. What about any legendary performances you was at? Man, I seen one on the reality show. that was fucking fire. Before our interview, I went and watched you open for him like your first ever live performance. That's crazy, dog.

He was like, please don't bring this up. He was like three faces, wouldn't it? He said, we want to talk about it. His music changed a little bit since then. No, all right, all right. We want to talk about it. I got a question. There's a rap lyric that I've been thinking about since, like,

I was a child since I was like 14. On the Black Star album, Telib Kuali said, raise my son with no vindication of manhood necessary. That's like how he ends his verse on this one song. And I always been thinking about that because even when I was like 14 and I heard that, it made me realize like so much of the shit that I'm doing, whether it's trying to make girls like me, trying to validate myself through getting good at things,

trying to be tough, trying to be hard, etc., thinking I could break the law and get away with it, thinking I should get fucked up, all that kind of shit. A lot of that was like me being a child who was trying to separate, I'm going to separate myself and prove that I was a man. And it occurs to me that in rap music, there's a lot of that. I see it a little bit different.

I see what you're saying and I can understand that, but I see it just a little bit different. I see a bunch of people refusing to be ignored in a society that would have cast them aside and written them off had they just gone with the flow quietly. flow quietly.

You know what I'm saying? I kind of see more of a rebellion nature. Like it's a lot of people that they, like for instance, let's just say soldier boy. The soldier boy went acting the ass, we wouldn't be,

you know what I mean? That's right, yeah. Kanye wouldn't be calling soldier boy. You see what I say? He literally trolled his way into the situation. We say the rap game, largely it's the attention game.

And it's not just in rap. It's in being a celebrity period. It's like you're making money off of the attention. the command a song is just a great way to command people's attention for three minutes. Why is that though? Yeah. Why is that?

Because it's not about the music these days. Good music is just one way to command attention. This is true. Yeah. Soldier Boys commanding attention. Most of us are not terribly familiar with what his music is like right now. And it's also about leading people to something. Yes.

You have to have a monetization plan. Because once you command the attention, you have to drive it towards something that's beneficial. You know, okay. You know, okay, people know you, what they know you for. I mean, okay, how do you palet that or manifest that, make it materialize into something tangible? You know, whether that's an album, a movie, a clothing line, or only fans. Oh, Lord, please don't. Don't go that route, my friend.

I did that so you didn't have to go through that. I want to hit him that what you said to me. You too. We don't want to worry about it. We're not sex worker shaming out here, boys. Amen, no, no, no. Amen. Which ever looked up without real deal.

Real spirit. You said he called. You said he had to talk with you. Why is big you telling you about my gonorrhea? What the fuck a motherfucker is talking about? Why are people talking about this shit? No, look, man. Listen, man.

I applaud you for being honest enough to share your story so other people can keep their dicks on ice and not on fire. You know what I'm saying? Thank you so much. You are a martyr. I did that so all the people at home wouldn't have to go through that. Yeah, you did that. You're a martyr.

That's a fact. You know what I'm saying? We appreciate that. We're saying. Yeah, but for sharing it. Like, he could have kept it to himself. I was thinking it. He said it.

He could have kept it to himself. and then you know nobody would have learned the lesson or gotten the lesson from it, but he shared it with the world at the risk of his own... First time I got gonorrhea, I was like, what the fuck is this? Let's call it optics.

At the risk of your own optics, you go ahead and for the sake of the... That's on brand for me, though. People know... I think that's on brand for me. Like, if you got it and you were talking about, people would be like, Tip is bugging.

Why the fuck is Tip talking about that? Wait a minute. How does gonorrhea become a part of your brand. People know I do porn, and when you do porn, getting burnt is just regular shit. That's like tripping and falling when you walk around the street.

We're not going to normalize getting gonorrhea. We're not going to do that. It's like getting a cold. It's better because you get a shot in their ass and it's over. I mean, but it is a risk. Now you have an attraction to needles that I'm a little scared. I don't shoot up.

Okay. We left that in the past. Hey, man. I'm just, hey man, we care. Are you an only fan's man? No. He's a bootleggar like Kanye? Yeah, I mean, I'm more likely to do that.

I'm more likely to do that, you know, than anything. I'm not paying people for free content. Are you serious? What about throwing money in the strip going to end up the same thing? Anyone who pays for porn, that's cultural. It's cultural. Only fans are slowly becoming that as well. Anyone who pays for porn is an idiot.

Oh, here we go. Ladies, I got your back. Don't worry. I believe everybody deserves to be paid for their hard work. That's fine. But if you put it on tape and it's on YouTube or it's on another free site and you choose to pay for it, you're an idiot. We all know that copyright infringement's going to happen.

We all know that a lot of people have listened to your music that didn't pay for it. So it is part of the game. Yes. But I would encourage people to support these ladies. Yeah, support the ladies. We'll find another way to do it. Get you some exclusive content. Something you can't find on another side.

sight for free. Ladies, watermark your shit better. Let me shut up. Yeah, my boy, he's got to talk about four. He's picture in the headline. As I digress. How often that happened to you were you saying some shit and you're like, man,

this sounds like a TMZ headline. I don't give a damn about a TMZ headline. They'll make a story about anything. Any of these people would. And, you know, it's parasitic to a certain degree that way. You know, it's very volatile. You know, I know that whatever I say is potentially,

y'all got some angry neighbors upstairs, don't you? Oh, they're fixing AC? Thank God. Oh, okay. Continue on. Yeah, continue on, guys. It's a very volatile environment, bro, and I understand that people hang on my every word. So that makes it a lot more beneficial for other blog sites to sensationalize what I say

for clickbait but I just I just appreciate the fact I just appreciate the fact that the shit I say still matters to a degree that's a good way to look at it I have a very

I always want to ask people like this just say you know as long as they get me right it's just a lot of time the misinterpretation yeah motherfucker be putting me out there all got damn hat and they do it on purpose

they do it on purpose just to get a fucking good storyline going yeah they do man But, you know, real journalists find good storylines that are accurate and that are true. Funny a good shit going on. Real good motherfuckers who are heads of, I guess, media, if you will, they don't have to, they pride themselves on being authentic, on being truthful, being accurate. The media landscape is all fucked up because everybody knows now that it's just about attention.

and I see trusted outlets posting shit that's total bullshit sometimes. Does everybody know that it's MK Ultra? What is that? I hear people say that sometimes, but I don't know. Okay. M.K. Ultra is, first of all, it was once a classified document by the federal government

back in the 50s, 60s and shit like that, if I'm mistaken. Later, like in the 2000s, it became unclassified. Maybe in the 90s. I don't remember. It became unclassified. So now it's public record that they were conducting experiments on how to control people's minds and how to manipulate people's thoughts through hallucinogens, through media, film, television, so on and so forth.

Did they do that a Whitey Bulger? They fucking pumped them full of acid? I have no idea. If you're asking me about it, it obviously did you know. I don't know. I think it's called class now. You're asking me, but you know more. You know more about it than I do.

Whitey Bulger was like one of the fucking biggest gangsters in Boston. The Borgia was a Boston guy. And at one point he said that they fucking were dosing him with hell of acid and shit, and that that was part of why he was a criminal mastermind, I guess. I don't know. Well, I know other people have admitted to use an asset and invented things that changed the trajectory of society, like the internet and Apple.

So. You ever had a good acid trip? Yeah. Really? I never would have thought of that. I saw the grid. I saw the grid. The grid.

Mm-hmm. What do you mean about that? Matrix grid. Oh. Yeah. I need to see that. You gotta do some goddamn asses. Well, I'm trying to microdose.

I don't know what's going on. I mean, I got to do with somebody that's stress wear it. But it was only my first time that I had that experience. Only my first time. Maybe because I didn't know what to expect. Every other time, it wasn't really like that. Really? Yeah.

That microdose and shit. Why everybody talk about that? First time I did mushrooms, I had a whole goddamn bag. Maybe because it's safer. Yeah, but. Maybe because it's safer. Some of them can know. I'm going to know.

Yeah. First time I did Coke, I had a whole goddamn eight ball. Never did Coke. No. Never did Coke. You were on the other side of the equation. Yeah, I never did Coke. I sold a few, you know, tidbit 10 now.

No, yeah. How you did it so my sons didn't have to? How are you doing with the influence? Your age, at your age, it's super crazy, bro. I ain't did none of that. Nothing. They can't go outside. Ain't none of your friends fucking with her than nothing like that?

I heard a couple of my people did ask it. I mean, but. I haven't wanted to try it. And they did it in front of you? Not that I know him. Not in front of it. Acid can be great, but I consider it kind of risky. Like, hold on positive.

It's kind of risky. Like, things can go bad, dude. Like, with acid, there's a lot of variables, man. Only if you have parts of your mind that you're afraid to discover. I think that that's probably true for a lot of people, though. Only if you have parts of your mind, if you're really, if you trust in yourself and you believe in who you are in totality at the core. then nothing you can experience can frighten you. You definitely right about that because I contemplated doing, like you saying,

the microdosing, but I'm like, I'm not going to do it because I might go crazy. But now I'm like, you know what? No, I'm not. I'm not going to go crazy. I know what's going on. You have to have a strong sense of self and a stable foundation. I think a lot of people are walking around lying to themselves all the fucking time. They don't really know what they're after.

That's true. And to be honest, like... And they project their fears and failures on others because of what they think of themselves. Very rarely is what people say about you and feel about you. Very rarely is that a reflection of you. Right.

That's how I feel about when people be disrespecting you as far as your legacy. Quite often, it's a reflection of themselves. And if I always know what somebody had to say about me to mean something for me to be something, shit, I'd never made it this far. Real. Validation ain't something I'm being on.

I'm the shit. as I said so. Yeah, but at what point did it actually become that, or did you always have that since very, very early on? Because your music certainly always represented that attitude. I've always had that. It just always been me. I don't know why.

I think my mama told me I was special, and I believed her. You know what I'm saying? I was always someone who could do something that other people in the room could not. I used to read the newspaper at three years old. and they'll call me in the room to read the newspaper just to show people that I could read at three.

But I don't remember nobody teaching me how to read. I don't remember learning how to read. I just remember reading. That's crazy. That's cold. You were built for this. Shit like programming VCR. I remember back when could nobody program a VCR.

I do remember that. I remember people talking about it. Come do this. Program this VCR. I do that kind of stuff. You know, just all kinds of, you know, just, I guess, things that where I'm from are considered things of a prodigy when you do that before you start going to school. So when you were watching the Kanye documentary, did you relate to him having that

belief in himself before almost anybody acknowledged it? Yeah, I mean, it goes without saying that it all starts with you. Go without saying that it all starts with you. If you don't believe, why should we? You know what I'm saying? How far you take that belief and how much, how many, how many, you know, any results you get from that belief are still, you know, it's case by case. But you got to have that. If you ain't got that, the rest of that shit is built up on faulty foundation. Got to be crazy enough to believe in yourself. You dig what I'm saying?

And the shit you believe that you can do got to be astronomically egregiously out of the norm. So the people around you look at you and think that you're crazy. because, but they're thinking that you're crazy because they don't believe that they could do it. They don't believe that they can achieve the levels of the heights that you envision for yourself. That's the level of ambition it takes to break the mold. That was the craziest shit about that shit

is that you could see it in his eyes that he knew way before anybody else knew that he was meant for this. And like, it's like you're seeing the impatience of him kind of like being like, I know I got to be humble for the time being. I know I got to take my time. I got to let Scarface kind of not get on my fucking joint

and all this shit. But he knew exactly what he turned into was what he was meant for. That moment for me, those moments for me happened way before anybody even knew who I was. By the time you started hearing who I was, I'd already made a name for myself. Right.

Because, you know, I started, okay, so I guess for me, for me to have that same part of my life documented, it would have had to be like a 95, 96, man, 94. You know what I'm saying? That's a fucking one. I was driving myself from Atlanta to New York

as a 15-year-old kid with my partner Doug, my partner, Matt Bonie, my partner, A.K., my uncle man. Sometimes we arrived at the Greyhound, One time we drove up there in a runner car, everybody got locked up on the way back except for Doug. In different parts, we got dropped off in different counties. Like, you know, I got pulled over in Charlotte. Is it Mecklenburg?

In Mecklenburg County in Charlotte. I think that my partner, AK, got locked up in South Carolina. My other partner, Matt Bonney got locked up like in northern Georgia somewhere. Doug had to drive the car home by itself. But the point of the story is, that is the time where everybody knew that I had something that nobody, like, everybody knew like, man, you posed to be there, but nobody else was seeing it.

You know what I'm saying? I think every rapper has kind of, most of us have had those moments. They were just forward-thinking enough to document it. And these days, it's like if you have a hot video, it could go viral over, and everybody could see it. But back in those days,

you really had to do shows, have motherfucking ads in the source and all this shit. Like, it was just such a slower grind. You really had to find someone to validate you. And then come to labels. You had to find someone

who could say, hell yeah, he's dope. Yeah, he's worth the time. He's worth the investment. Or she. Or they? 2003.

I remember I was on a BMX trip with my friends. we stopped in Virginia and we're sitting in a bar and I see... What part of Virginia? I think we're in Richmond. Okay.

And I see the 24s video playing in this bar. And at that time, I was pretty much 100% 50 cent Cameron fan. That was my primary rap fandom. Which is not a bad catalog. No, especially on the East Coast

at that time, I mean, that was it. Yeah. But when I saw that, I got geek. I was like, whoever the fuck this guy is, this is it right there. And when I really think about it, that might have been some of the first Southern music

that I really, really got crazy for. And I still remember that that night was the first night that I ever fucked a stripper. Which I feel like for a lot of guys, that's kind of... Coincidence, I think that. Could have influenced it. I assume my guys had a few strippers in his death.

Hey, man. Telepathically, I deliver the energy to you. For you to receive, use it on your behalf to apply it to the circumstances that led to your experience. I saw the angle on that hat. You dig what I'm saying?

I was like, man, I'm fucking something tonight. Yeah. Yeah. For the first time. I didn't lose my virginity, but my first stripper who has tattoos all over, big ass fake tits. You know, I was feeling myself. I didn't know I was built to be able to get pussy

like that at that point of my life. You weren't, but then you heard me. You know what I'm saying? You weren't. You were not. But the thing is, and I have a joke like this. Well, it's not really a joke. I'm just kicking shit.

But the thing is, that is the mindset and the mentality of me at 1920. You did what I'm saying? I listened to it now. and it's cringe worriedly sometimes. Not because it isn't good. The vindication of manhood thing. Like the idea that you're going to prove

what a man you are by who you are allowed to put your dick in. That's something that we kind of got to get past as men in general, right? We do, we do. But I think that it also is tethered to the way we value women. Like what value?

Because if it was just whatever, then it wouldn't be like that. You know what I mean? We just have to value the other parts that come with women, the other things women have to offer just as tenaciously as we do the physical. This is true. We both got girls.

He got a whole fleet of them. Yeah, I'm you. No, hey, you're right? I only got one, but he got grown. He got like a 12-year-old and a bunch of young ass. What you mean by you meet? Tell me about that. I'm talking about kids.

I'm just as far as... You got 12? Be a girl dad. Damn, you got 12? I got a catch-in-up. No, he said 12. No, I only got four. No, one of them's 12 years old.

That's the oldest one, I think, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell no, I ain't got no damn 12 kids. No, I ain't got 12 either. They got a little over half a dozen. That's cool. Yeah, I got a little over half a dozen. That's how I describe the amount of kids I have.

Who took the gene of being the smartest? Like I got them in bulk. You know, like they came from Costco. or some shit. Hey man, let me tell the jokes here, okay? I beat them to the punchline. Get off my beat. Now, that's bad podcasting.

Get off my bit, man. You know what I'm saying? Nah, for real, who took the gene to being the smartest kid you got? You know what? You're not supposed to rate them, right? Listen, no, let me tell you something. I am proud to say

that each of them got a different skill set, a different level of intelligence in certain areas they pulled from different parts of my personality, parts of my intellect, parts of my, I guess, my energy, you know, and they're all extremely different. All of them. They're all, you know, heightened levels of intelligence. Like, for instance, let's say, be an example, my youngest daughter. going over her, she was just telling me her vocabulary words for the week. And she was just running down this one and this one and this one.

And she got the one, I said, baby, well, I asked her what did all of them mean as though I didn't know. Oh, yeah, what does that mean? Like one of them was fascinating. I said, oh, baby, what does that mean? You know. And then she got down to the second to land one. and she said let me make sure

it had a couple of syllables in there she said prodigious prodigious baby what does that mean she said oh it means wonderful

or magnificent I'm saying damn she just taught me a fucking word that's a rich ass word my daughter my five-year-old daughter just taught me prodigious that's the first time I've ever heard it in my life you see what I'm saying and I don't you know major you know me and major we sit back and we philosophize existence you know whether there's life on other planets whether the earth is round whether God is real whether like we just sit and philosophize talk like a grown-hand man You know, like B-O-B kind of conversation.

You dig what I'm saying? Demani, he will, you know, bring me up to speed on what's going on in health and wellness. And he has so much information about, you know, what kind of nutrients are in certain foods and what kind of plants do this and what kind of, you know, all that kind of like Dr. Sebi type shit. You did. You know, you got king. I mean, King is extremely intelligent, but he also is a, hmm, how can I say this? Yeah, it takes time.

He's a leader of personalities. Like, he has the charisma, and he knows how to get you on his side, and he can read a room, and he's savvy in a way. And, you know, he knows the right thing to say. and when to take action. He has that part. Messiah taught himself how to play the guitar, the drums, and how to produce and use machine.

And, you know, just very... Dasia, she is probably one of the most eloquent poets. You know what I'm saying? She write poetry and has, like, just a keen philosophy on life, existence, you know, a sense of self of way. what it means to be, you know. She's like a motivational speaker.

She can kind of get people going, you know, and give life through words. Neek-Neak-Neek has developed from me the subtle art of not giving a fuck, you know what I mean? But not by being disrespectful, by making sure that other people's shit don't matter enough to her, you know, to affect her of well-being throughout the days, weeks, months, and years.

You know what I'm saying? They all got like a different side of me. You know what I mean? And that shit is crazy. That shit weird. The question is, we all agree having kids is great. When do you know when to stop? And do you really think you're done?

Because if you love it so much, later in life, it's like, don't you want some more young kids around? Yeah. They're fun when they're little. I do. I got a grandbaby now. You see what I'm saying? So when you get to that point, you start having grandbabies.

Yeah. Wow. That's crazy, man. That does sound lit. I got a grandbaby. All the cuteness without all the work. Damn. I mean, I don't even mind the work.

I never felt like, damn, all these damn kids. I never felt like that. I always felt like, you know, everybody played their own position and had their own thing. You know what I mean? It never felt overwhelming for me. I never really I never minded the kids right before you came

we was having a conversation about how bigger artists sometime their music they don't drop music as frequently because it kind of affects their legacy have you ever felt like that anytime of your career man to be honest with your real

I ain't even ever gave that kind of shit no consideration I just always like we're working with working and then like when I was on the Atlantic you know, they would always want me to drop before the end of the fiscal. You know, and I understood that. So that was my thing.

I was going to drop around, but sometime between August, September, October. You know what I mean? That's when it was a fiscal year, not a calendar year, because I think now they moved to a calendar year, if I'm not mistaken, when they switched over in the streaming or some shit. Yeah.

I don't remember. I don't remember. We were using the examples of Rihanna and Cardi just as in people who are massive celebrities who their last records were so big and their celebrity is just so massive that they can kind of both easily coast for three, four years just living off of that.

And Kendry too, but I don't think there's necessarily a conscious decision as far as making music or releasing music is concerned. I believe that is the luxury that comes with the fuck you money that was received and accumulated from their lab project, they can actually take time and live their life with, no pun intended, without, without, you know,

being bombarded with the obligation of rushing back out and going on tour again or working again, and that's a blessing. But do you feel like you're in that position where you could just kind of chill? Yes, good. I don't need music to pay me if I did. I'd be fucked up.

I mean, I've made great deals, man. My catalog is, you know, I feel like an old man on Social Security. I live on a fixed income. We know who you signed. We know who you signed. We know who you signed. There's definitely some good checks coming in. Listen, brother, we don't know the inner workings of the deal,

but we know you sign some other photos. One of the things that I think one should always remember. I don't have to hang my hat on the success of nobody singularly, because at the end of the day, I have a TI. This is true. You know what I'm saying? And also, I have a plethora of talents to pull from to diversify my portfolio in such a way

where when this one isn't earning at the rate that I needed to, I just kind of amplify these or those. Or I create something new. I don't see myself more so. I don't see myself as much as a rapper than I do a builder of brands. Like I create IPs. You know what I mean? I build IPs and I leverage the success of those IPs for money.

And I maintain ownership of those IPs, except for family hustle. I fucked up on that one. They caught me shlipping, so what. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Vicar on that. That's cool. Yeah. Damn, how they catch you slipping on that way? Because I was getting out of prison.

You know what? And for me, I didn't think, I didn't see it being so big. I saw it as like a commercial for people to see something other than the guy who went back to prison. So that was, it was sort of like it was an image, a rebranding, representing of, you dig what I'm saying? And once it worked like that, you know, the deal was already kind of done. And I didn't, I didn't see that one. You didn't know you were going to still be thinking about it all these years later ago. Exactly.

I had no way of fathoming what these young people and Tamika would, you know, put on screen to add to what I already had and kind of compensate for what I was, what I had missing. I never could have imagined that. So they caught me shlipper. This is the number one thing I want to get your perspective on is like, it's easy in a way when you're 20 or when you're on that come up it's kind of easy because you need money and you need attention so bad that you have no

choice but to fucking grind. Once you get the fuck you money or even anywhere close to it, it's kind of like, well, what is the battery in your back at this point? Vision. Vision. That's his driving force. It's my driving force. Should be yours. There are things that I have

in my mind that I know. could benefit the world. And if it stay in my mind, the world would never receive it. And sometimes that don't happen with one thing at a time. Sometimes, man, it's a whole board full of

vision that, you know, as I start, I'm directing a series that I wrote and financed and I'm executive producing it with D.C. Young Fly's College Departments. So I'm editing that.

I have album, my last album that I'm working on. Not only do I have to create the music, you have to create some sort of a marketing plan, figure out who I would like to partner with to do that, create the concept of it all, work on the art. I have a book, two books that I'm working on.

One of them is my biography. Another one is like a how not to get fucked than the music being this kind of book, you know what I'm saying, for young artists to read before they think about doing deals. Those are both great ideas. Thank you. I have,

stand up that I'm doing now. I have the Trap Music Museum and, you know, how to continue to generate interest in, and maintain our position is one of the top five tourist attractions in Atlanta. One of those things is, okay, we have an event on Thursday where we are unveiling the new exhibit for the Trapper of the Year and the Trapper of the Year for 2021, Money Bag, Yo. I've seen that.

You digging them? So that event is on Thursday. Jake got a golf game in with Big You. And got the minus project that we still pushing and figuring out ways to stimulate the growth of that. Got a semi-scripted but unscripted mockumentary style television show that I'm also writing and developing. It's me and the family. It's called Royal Absurdities. So it's like family hustle meets Caribbean enthusiasm.

Wow. You know what I mean? And writing that, preparing to present it. I have life rights for a drug lord out of Memphis named Craig Petty's. So I wrote a script called Possession with Intent about his life and his, you know, he's the only black man that was accepting into the golden triangle. Wow. And he was top 15 of America More. one that went on the run for six years.

He got six licensees now out of Memphis. Wow. You did. Let's see. What else is there? Don't stop. You have plenty more things. Are we ever going to get ATO part two?

Well, that's on Lauren. You know, everybody is respectfully waiting into Lauren feels like, you know what I'm saying? She's ready to come back and be new new. We already got a green lit. I already got a storyline. I already got everybody already ready to do it. You know, whenever.

And, you know, that's our sister. and we like families, so it ain't, it ain't like, man, we got to do that, man, hurry up. It's like, hey, man, just let her know. You did? Wow. Let me see, there are other things, though. There are other things. Okay, my life story as a kid, my version of Wonder Years called Once Upon a Time in the 90s.

It's basically the story of me meeting all of my partners, which became the PSC and us doing all of the things that we did that led up to me getting the record deal. let's see I got a gang of shit basically like if somebody told you I got a cool hustle game strivers row

all three of those still in business still operating still you know thank you for everybody's support still in retail stores so thinking about ways to continue to stimulate

you know what I'm saying and magnify the presence of those brands we got all deaf digital which I was a part of the group that acquire all deaf digital and we're doing very good and we're bringing back roast me bringing back roast me um i have a social media of dsp platform called riff sort of like clubhouse meet zoom meet spotify we are full-fledged DSP if somebody told you that you had to go chill on

an island and hawaii or some shit for a month yeah would that sound like a good idea or does that That sound like you're going to be tortured the whole time because you can't be working on shit. I know how to chill. I just take my phone with me. Take my phone. Hey, man, do this. Hey, man, I need you to do this.

Hey, man, what's up? Thought you were doing that. Hey, man, had this finished? Is that finished? I mean, you know, I could do what I'd do anywhere. Right. This is my office. I could do what I do anyway.

I was doing it on the golf course. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I don't feel bound, constricted, or confined to any area. specifically that I have to do. But you never turn off that part of your brain that's always being creative and working on shit? Mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm, wake me up at night.

Wait me up at night. Yeah, because I love you as an actor. I love you in film. I love you as an actor. Thank you. And I love your perspective on things. I kind of, you know, I kind of want you to take that 50 cent round too. And I want to see what, what would your creation be, like, and what stories can you tell?

Man, I think that what I see right now is everybody won't more sugar than medicine. I see that. So to get the kind of support, attention, financial backing, you know, I kind of got to develop a bunch. I got to get a bunch of numbers. I got to, you know, I got to rally the troops. And that comes with shit that is easy on the eye.

Not a lot of thought-provoking shit early on catch people attention at furry glands. So that's why I did Departments, which is a comedy. Apartment is like a comedy like Friday set in Atlanta about this apartment complex all of the characters that exist in this apartment complex and all of the crazy shit that happen

within this apartment complex directed two episodes in the editing process of that King is in it Carlos Miller Cheating and Myron, Tokyo Jets, Tokyo Vanity Tyler Chronicles

Erica Ditches Jay Ski Nav Thold off one Love Nav Yeah Money Bad Mafia Like it's a bunch of young

hungry talented comics Henry Welch Nestle Man I can't even name I'm on brother It's a bunch of Hungrag comics

On there Being dropped dead funny Do you Like with the trap museum, I assume the reason why this exists is because you don't want other people being the ones telling the story of who matters in hip-hop.

Well, I think that it's incredibly important for us to maintain control of our narrative of the things that we had a hand in creating. Or else, I mean,

should I wait for someone like you to do it? Absolutely not. Should I wait for having it? I mean, he's smart enough somebody would say, Trappies Museum. Oh, hell yeah. When I heard of it, I'm like, that's a fucking idea right there.

I like it. But if nobody does it, then I can't blame people like you for coming in and taking advantage of an untapped market. You know what I'm saying? So I did it because I didn't want to see I didn't want to see no white person

do it before. It would be out of with you. That's fair enough. And I love Atlanta for a day. You guys are always putting your foot first. First foot forward. Like you guys are always ahead of us doing stuff.

You guys are way, way more together than us. First, it was us. The West Coast. No, man. I think everybody got their pros and cons, positives and weaknesses. I mean, positives and negative strengths and weaknesses. I don't think that, you know,

we are just so, so far ahead astronomically that you. Togetherness. I think when you look at L.A., I would say togetherness. Comraternity. Like, yes. Y'all come together for the right reason. Sometimes.

for a little bit. We definitely don't have a street all-black-owned restaurants. I don't know. But see, I think because of the civil rights movement and, you know, all of us, especially my generation, every generation in Atlanta

was born with the privilege of being able to stand on the shoulders of giants of the ones that came before him. Everybody knows Dr. King, but they don't know about Daddy King. Alonzo Herndon, people like that. Alonzo Hernd was the first black millionaire in Atlanta. You know what I mean?

He started as a barbord, but he cut white folk hell. He cut white folk hell, not because he ain't like black people, but because he knew that white folk discussed business in the barbershop. So while he getting in the hair cut, he's earhusting. He heard about some shit called insurance. You know what I mean? He knew black folk in our community. We ain't had no insurance.

So he white labeled some insurance and was only black man that was offering insurance to our people became the first black millionaire. You know what I mean? Dr. King's father, daddy king. was, I think, one of the first black men on the board of a bank. You know what I mean? Right.

So those are the shows that Dr. King stood on. Dr. King was able to lead and be prolific in his thoughts and his ambitions. And he had that level of confidence and security of what he could do because he saw others before him doing great shit. Right. You see what I'm saying? And that led to him inspired him being the greatest. You know what I mean?

And that effort, that sacrifice, all of that energy, people pass that down from generation to generation, and we just reap the benefits of it. And that's time for us to create great shit, pass it down again. You know what I mean? I think that's what's beautiful. That's why there's such a community to entertainment, to politic pipeline.

You know what I mean? Because it's been established. That was the first black mayor in Atlanta named Maynor Jackson. He was tasked with the obligation of expanding and building what would become the busiest airport in the country, or in the world, I believe. Right. Okay.

Now, when he did that, that put him in a position where he had an opportunity to administer contracts out. So that created an opportunity where, when they had the poor runways, you know, they had to figure out who was going to get these contracts. We have something we call minority inclusion. because of Dr. King, because of, you know, in our economy,

there's something called minority inclusion. All right. So when it was time to pour the concrete or the asphalt for the runways, he said, I want a black man to do it. And they say, well, ain't no black men who poll runway. He said, well, there's plenty of niggas to pull asphalt, so get them out there. Right.

You see what I'm saying? Those people who got their contract, that boosted their business and led the more opportunities for them. Same thing happened. When no time to build a Georgia don't. I want a black man to be the developer. They went to Herman Russell, biggest black developer in the country at the time.

And he created opportunities for other minorities, who created opportunities for other minorities, so on and so forth. You know what I mean? That's what Atlanta made of. That's why we are how we are. Right. I mean, and especially in Atlanta,

it's kind of like, it's not near Hollywood. It's not like they ever, expected anybody to do anything for them. It was so obvious from early on that like, no, we got to do this shit ourselves. Like, yeah, we can sign the labels and shit. But in LA, it's like, it's right there. All these fucking record labels are right there. And I feel like that creates a different way that young artists view shit. But it's so much other than just like music and entertainment. It's a lot of business going on. You dig what I'm saying? It's a lot of business happening. Like, we saw a lot of blood.

black businesses, people handling money and taking care of business. And we grew up and we got a chance to mix that business with the profits that we made from being able to make music. You know what I mean? We learned about flipping houses and, you know, buying a club and, you know, owning property and all kinds of shit. We learned about that shit is dope boys. as a drug dealer that was the plan if I came on fucking make it raping I'm gonna sell enough drugs to be able to buy me a club

you know what I mean I didn't think like that you know when I was younger coming from the ghetto doing my thing like you know I was probably you weren't exposed to it yeah I wasn't and I was just proud of my first investment which was like a house and then like and then I bought like a piece of art

and I was like so happy you know what I'm saying like I get another word What investment do you feel like Oh, thank you. I got one. Like your most prominent thing. These guys, this is my most prominent investment.

This is the thing that I'm most proud of of my work, my time spent on earth. These guys. Damn right. All seven of my kids. I appreciate you. I could not be proud of it. If you didn't put the effort in it,

you know, be the person that you're becoming. You know, I could be like, man, I fucked that. But it's your effort. It's yours. What you're able to do that makes it worthwhile. Right. I like the kid that you're raising, man.

He's got a good head on his shoulders. I can't lie. As an artist and as a man, yeah, have you, like, tapped into what your pops were saying? Like, you know what? I'm that nigger. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to be that nigger.

I know exactly what I'm going to do with it. When? Like right now. Yeah, just, you know, right now. I was on and in and out, man. when he was just talking. You ever heard the term, have you ever heard the term?

That was fine. That was fine. Of what it's like to stand too close to an elephant. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. If you stand up, nose to nose with an elephant, you don't know how big they are. You can't really notice it.

You just see like this scrotum-like skin in your face. Like it ain't really, but if you back up, you're like, guy. Damn, we're motherfuck. He's a motherfucker being too close to an elephant for their whole life. You ever touch an elephant? Hell no. It feels like fucking cement.

Their skin is so thick and hard. It's like the trippiest feeling thing on earth. Real king of the jungle? I mean, you know, I was just out in Thailand. I'm like, man, I'm gonna touch this elephant. He picked me up too. I don't know if they do that out here. I seen an elephant slap a bad bitch on the ass on Instagram.

I seen that shit soon. They said they just smartest animal. You know what the fuck to do, don't they? But the reaction that you had there was so funny because I always think about the fact that sometimes I feel like my parents didn't tell me shit. Like, they really didn't, like, give me the knowledge that I felt like I need at that time of retrospect.

Me too. But also, I remember my dad giving me a lot of fucking good advice that I did not pay attention to and that was in one ear, out the other. And then years later, I was like, damn, so he was right about that shit. Yeah. No, he didn't gave us plenty of information.

and continue on. Yeah. I was counting the letters on the wall and stuff like that. Man, one thing I always want them to have that I didn't have is somebody to call and ask when they didn't know. Always did. And if they didn't call and ask, I wanted to always call them with the information. Hey, man, you know, got to do it like this.

This is the way it go. Then how you pull the handle it. This how you do this. You do this like this. Hey man, check this side. That ain't going to work like that. I'm going to tell you why, because you're going to need these things in place. I'm always calling them, and I know they're sick of me.

But I'd rather them be aggravated. No, I know. I know you are. I know I know you are. I know you are. You'd be right, though. A lot of the stuff you just said not to do and not did, it just to try it, just to see. It always turned out not good.

What's the craziest thing that stuck with you that pops is? I don't know about the crazy thing Well music It just told me to take it serious Because at the time I was young I was all over the place I wanted to do everything I wanted to

Magician Yeah, magician Hypnotice All the type was to skate boy I wanted to go to skate Instead of go to the studio And he was like Well if you want to do music

You got to take a serious And I was like Ah you know But when you're young that life experience. Like you're supposed to be trying a lot of different shit, right? Like that couple months

you spend trying to skateboard before you're like, nah, then maybe they're saying for me. That's important shit, you know? Let me tell you about the skateboard phase. So my man started skate was no good. Filled all the time.

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah. And he asked me, Dad, will you get me two half pipe, a full pipe? I say,

what? It's crazy. You can't even skate on the goddamn pavement. I will never get you on full pike. Are you crazy? And I say, I tell you what, you can skate because we had a hill. I said, if you could skate from the top of the hill, down here without falling, I'd get you one. Right.

So we tried a few times and failed and fail and fail. Like, man, you're never going to happen. You got to be able to tear up the skate park before you can have your own skate park, right? But check this out. Seemingly so. Check out with the money. did. So DeMani called my Uncle Man

and Uncle Man showed up to my house and I didn't call him so I'm like damn what you doing? He said yeah man I'm here for DeMoney where he at? So they go to the damn Home Depot come back with piles of wood I said what the fuck is all doing with this wood?

And he said don't worry about it. Me and the money got something going. I see this man Googling how to build a half pipe and I I probably left, came back in town, went to sleep, woke up, something like that. And I see this motherfucker 80% done on a half pipe. And then he painted it.

And then I'm like, okay, okay. All right, I'm now scared. I'm like, I hope he don't think he's going to try to do this. He's going to fucking bust his head. He's going to kill itself. And then I thought he was going to start trying to skate on the den. Started building the second one. And he built the second one.

And he put one on this side of the, I guess, the courtyard in the driveway. And he put the other one on this side. Now I'm nervous. Lo and behold, the fateful moment. He came and got here about out. He came and got me at the house. Come on. I'm ready.

Damn. I'm immediately, man, crank up the car. We're going to have to take him. We go to the hospital. We're going to the doctor. And he'd get up there. come down, go over there, go up, come back down, back up, down, walk off, and never skate it again.

Wow. Wow. That was his career in skateboard. All of it were like that, though. Yeah, I would just dive into it and then I would just stop. Once he felt like he had mastered it, once he felt like, you know what I'm saying, he acquired the skill, and he moved on to something else. But music stayed for years.

Because it's like, it's infinite. It's like impossible to really get it right. You know, like the best thing you can do is make a song that people fuck with. But even then, you always know you can make better shit. No, hell no. I'm a podcaster. Speaking of a porn star. Yeah, because you never know.

That's why I asked you. I knew that question is coming. Get better and you be and it's like, nigga, you made the song? No, I got hell of knowledge about everything. Yeah, well, that's good. But that's the thing that, you know, I feel that it's the most rewarding thing

to me about being a father. Sometimes I just stand back like, damn, look at what my sperm can do. That's crazy. It's a motherfucker. As a porn star? Same thing here. You're crazy.

Well, I look at my kids. That's what I'd be saying. I'd be like, damn God is real. No, man. What about the gonorrhea? How did you feel about it? It's gone now. Don't worry.

But you know what I, but I think the reason why I look at music and the reason why I, the reason why I think I fell on podcasting is because it's infinite. Like, there's always a million different people to talk to and a million different things to talk about. And that's really what settles me into it. Really? No, I ain't like it. I ain't like it. I like it. I like it for a week or two.

Really? A three. I feel like everybody who does that. But then when it became a job, like, hey, got to read these ass, got to read these ass. Hey, got to be here at this time. Hey, you got to, man, fuck out. I ain't got, I'm talking about because I never got, I never received the spoils that

came with it. Right. I never really, I ain't never get no money. How you see other motherfuckers like, shit, Shalamein and you and Joe Rogan and Gillian Wallow, I ain't never get that. Right. You know, it was just a bunch of motherfucking appointments. But I had great conversation and I met great people and I feel like I enjoyed that part of it.

I enjoyed it while I was doing it. Yeah. Like in the moment of it. But when I get the call like, what? Man, ain't no money in that. Right. And I had other visions that I felt like I could be spending time. They're not hearing.

T.I. got like the craziest podcasting contract. I think I remember talking to Ben Baller about how much promotion he was in. You didn't get some crazy contract? Uh-uh. I don't know what you mean. Like, what crazy contract? Well, you know, you hear about Joe Rogan getting $100 million from Spotify. No, never happened.

Never happened. Okay. I've gotten no more than tens of thousands of dollars. Really? Yes. As a musician, the money seemed a little slow in comparison? With the amount of work and exposure that came with it. Yeah.

I mean, thinking about something like Joe Budden, he's doing six hours a week, two different three-hour episodes of him just talking to his friends. You love talking to your friends, but at a certain point, that's got to start feeling like a job, you know? I mean, you got to really love it to keep going. I'm not saying I couldn't do it again or I wouldn't do it again. I would love to continue to have stimulating conversations with people that push the culture forward and that matter to the generation. That's not the part that I didn't like about it. I just, for one, I think if I did it again, it would be a panel.

I think all of the best podcasts kind of have, you have people bouncing ideas off of each other, like drink champs. You know what I'm saying? Like, if it's just me and the guest, that's more like fucking 60 minutes or some shit. You know what I'm saying? It's a different thing.

It's a different thing that one-on-one, I'm going to dig into your brain. I don't do that. And just find out everything that makes you tick. I mean, that's a certain thing. That was a very formal way, you know, when I think that probably would be better to create a panel, have a panel discussion, and bounce perspectives off of one another.

Did you ever, like, consciously realize that you could change the culture's vocabulary? Because I heard so many people use the word expeditiously that I'm like, there's absolutely no way this person would have used that word if they didn't find out about it from Tia. Like, you somehow just, like, seeded that word into common usage, which is kind of unbelievable. It's not an easy word to say or use. I'm not that educated. So here it was, you know, hearing these words, I'm like, okay, that's what it is. You know what I'm saying?

I'm Googling it. I'm like, okay, we need to start speaking like this more. It was a moment of serendipity, I tell you. See, serendipity. I'm going to go ahead and move it like it. Another good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Serendipity is unexpected good fortune.

See? When everything miraculous. feels like there's so many words that if my kid would ask me at some point how do you say that what does that word mean I would never be able to tell her even on words I use all the time we we said fascinated I'm like I cannot tell you what fascinating means even though I could use it you know what fascinating mean but I couldn't give you a definition I mean you're in awe something worthy of awe it's fascinating that's pretty good awe and amazement fascinating you know before you leave is the is the comedy theme more

freedom, you know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Tell all these comments to fuck off and stop judging you. I never told. I live it every day. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I'm going to lead by the example of that. You did?

Nah, man, I don't give a damn, man. I ain't never cared what a motherfucker had to say about what I were doing, man. I ain't never waited for somebody to give me approval or authority to do some shit that I wanted to do. If I had, I probably never made it here. So you motherfuckers going to have to. Shit, man. I think in the famous words of R. Kelly, for all who are pissed off, it's better to be pissed off than pissed out.

I might be... T.I. Domani. I appreciate you, bro. It was great seeing you. Much love. Infinite respect. Thank you for your fucking contribution to the culture over the years. We cannot underestimate or under-emphasize that we just had a motherfucking legend and an up-and-coming legend. and an up-and-coming legend side-by-side on this podcast. That was a beautiful thing right there. That was crazy. Thank you for being a part of that with me.

Thank you for having me be a part of that. That was amazing. When he walked in the room out, I almost dropped the tear. I mean, there's certain people in the culture that no matter where you get going in life, you just cannot. You can't deny it. You can't deny it. Some people have just moved the culture more than damn near anybody else,

and he's in the absolute upper echelon. Yeah, my man is. T.I. Much love. Legends. Appreciate you. Shout out to the whole team. He shook hands with everybody on our team. I didn't get a change of shake hands with everybody on his team, so now I feel kind of guilty. That's okay. This was lit.

That was lit. He just walked out the room so I could be happy. God damn. That man, that was T.I. We still alive? God damn. Nick of y'all crazy. Y'all seen that shit.

That nigga walked to the door. Like, damn. You know, as crazy as Laura's been trying to book me an interview with him forever. And then she hits me out. like two days ago and she says, hey, are you down to interview TI at 8 o'clock on a Tuesday? Now, anybody who knows me knows that like on Tuesday, my energy level is done at like exactly eight o'clock. Like as soon as the two hours is done.

But I said, yes, I'll do it. I'll fucking, I bought a Red Bull because I'm like, I'm staying up. I'm fucking interviewing TI. How are you going to split that up between the live show and right now? I was going to just stop and then do it. But then as we were doing this and as he started running late, or no, because they passed me a note saying that he had to start early. Trev, can we get a celebratory blunt?

I have the woods, or I mean, you don't have to roll it, but you want to come hang out on camera? What? Oh, you need a picture. I got to take a photo. Wow. Should we just end it? Yeah, okay. Let's just end it.

All right, yeah. We love everybody out there. Grand hustle for life. Little grand hustle right here, bro. He was a little blotted on. Now he's a little grand hustle. I'm here for the shit, bro. Hey, you was for to get up.

I'm so crazy. I was for to stay on live by myself. Bro, we know that. Hey, I don't know how you compare Whiskelif to Tia or or or Mazi, but man, we had some fun. We're not even supposed to have guests on these shows, but we had some fire fucking guests over the past couple months, man. That's wild. It's crazy, bro. It's a beautiful thing.

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