No Jumper - The No Jumper Show Ep. 170

Starting point is 00:00:00 Dating. Two, one. We live. You want to start rapping it right away. Damn, even working on his beatbox. You can't say damn. Even working on his beatbox. Don't say damn.

Starting point is 00:00:15 You said it three times now. My 90% just turned to 88. No, no, no, no. The reason why I started to do the beatbox was because I was thinking about how it would be weird if we started the podcast halfway through having the. conversation about if Skinny from the Nine and Gina views were dating, which is clearly what we were about to discuss right there, like what the dynamic might be like. Is he a whole fish and's fan?

Starting point is 00:00:39 Does he have half his face back? Because currently half his face ain't working. I think when she got through with him, both sides of his face wouldn't be working. I'm going to make that other side of your face not work. This is like... Not funny. Very not funny. Very dark.

Starting point is 00:00:56 He'll be looking like droopy the dog walking in the room. I think that's a stroke. Is he the second person you've ever heard of this happening to in your entire life, aside from Justin Bieber? I was like Justin Bieber. I had never heard of it before Justin Bieber. I've known multiple people. I know people with that affliction. Really?

Starting point is 00:01:16 You too? Josh said, oh, my sister? I thought she has shingles. It's kind of the same thing. Really? Yeah, the same side of us. You are so out of touch. Hold on your own sister.

Starting point is 00:01:25 She told me she has shingles. She never said half her face stopped working, but half of her face looks. like a genital herpy. You gotta call her shingles from the nine now. Josh, you don't talk about your wife like that?

Starting point is 00:01:38 I mean, half her face was like melting off. It was really scary for a minute. Actually, it wasn't that. It was pretty bad. I mean, okay,

Starting point is 00:01:46 it wasn't literally melting off, but it was as close to melting off as you could be without actually melting off. Is her face like 100% back to normal now? Mostly, but there's a little bit of scarring and shit from that. Damn,

Starting point is 00:01:56 bro. Josh, where do you draw the line where there's like insults With Adam, which is sister. I used to fart on her head. I can say whatever I want. You can't fart on her head now.

Starting point is 00:02:05 You got to knock you out. I know because she's traumatized because I used to fart on her head when I was a kid. Now Josh farts on her head. Yo, why does it smell like cheese in here so bad? They eating burgers and stuff? Oh, they got burgers? What do you got? Chick-fil-A sandwich.

Starting point is 00:02:20 Okay. Gina, why did you pause me and bite? She still pausing. Yo, what the fuck? The white shit dripping all there. Her face is crazy. We need a camera to. Like the Carl's Jr.

Starting point is 00:02:29 commercial when it was washing the cars. We need a camera to film Gina's face dripping with the ranch. No, it's crazy too because she was sucking on the sandwich and then all of a sudden white stuff starts dripping down her face. She started listening to us and then immediately stopped chewing or eating or anything as

Starting point is 00:02:45 if she couldn't chew and listen at the same time which is, and there it is. There it is. It's like a whooping crane showed up. Is that the whooping call? The whooping crane. or the whoop no wait yeah whooping cough what does a whooping crane

Starting point is 00:03:02 sound like does it sound like jean or does it sound like something else whoopan clan whoopin clan ain't nothing to fuck with hey no it's good i didn't do it we're past that territory we can say stuff like damn now do you see how scannless you are though you like you literally tried to everything scanless hey hey and before we even get into that

Starting point is 00:03:23 you know what extra scanless is me rocking out on this podcast with my black fashion over jeans on them. I hide the joint for the TikTok's sake. I love my fashion over jeans. I wear them as often as possible. So shout out to them for supporting the podcast and this underlying TikTok. I'm guessing. Wait, what are you talking about the TikTok? I don't know. There's usually a TikTok after we talk about those. You were really like a TikToker now. No, it's in the contract. But yes, I am a TikToker now. Follow me, Adam 22 on TikTok. I have 149,000 followers just to date this right here because I'm coming for that million, bro. You've been going live too.

Starting point is 00:03:58 A couple times, only like two or three times. I haven't caught it yet. But I don't want to see you with your shirt off. That's the embarrassing thing is that I get way more views on TikTok when I take my shirt off. I'll be in the gym working out fully clothed and I'll be like, oh, I'm going to do a TikTok, boom, shirt off. Gay as fuck. The only TikTok live I've ever seen consequently was actually shirtless and it was the island boys arguing with each other. Wow.

Starting point is 00:04:25 Yeah. Honestly, no one. Yeah. It's like, it almost looked like a schizophrenic episode. It's like the same guy. When they were, like, you stole my style. Before everybody came to know of them as the Island Boys because they did the Island Boys thing, like when I interviewed them, it was mostly because they got famous from arguing with people on TikTok and Instagram Live. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:04:44 Like that was their whole thing. They had a whole cast of characters, different people that would argue with all the time. It was ridiculous. Yeah. Fly Soldier when it was just Fly Soldier and he would argue with this kid. You're acting like there was a time before Red. 4x, now known as Kodiak, right? Exactly, it was red 4X and they had this some kid named like Enzo

Starting point is 00:05:02 954, there was the green hat, there was a, I would go to sleep watching YouTube clips of the... That is a lot. Yeah, no, I'm... Which one is the nigga that, um, he got put in the car and he said that you can't be a blood no more? Cuban doll. No.

Starting point is 00:05:18 Oh. That's not Cuban though. You're thinking of pun. You know what I'm talking about. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's the, isn't that the Enzo? Oh, you're just talking about the island boys. Yeah, didn't they, uh, they, And one of them, he was like, what was this name? Carlos? He put him in a... Josh is still laughing on my joke.

Starting point is 00:05:31 Who the fuck is Carlos? He thought that was good. That was good. Okay, note to self, go in on pun more. Yeah, y'all both go at it. Bring in pun's forgotten lore. I run a site called punlore.com. Go outside and fight me like a man.

Starting point is 00:05:48 That's lore. Krip laws, man. Talk to me like a man. That was the most amazing. We don't discuss business. Was pun a rapper? Big pun. Oh, see, I just assumed that he rap-

Starting point is 00:05:59 Oh, well, he was a rapper. Yeah, he was a rapper. But I thought pun rapped as well for some reason. No, just a... He was just an enforcer. Managing, producer, enforcer. He wraps his fingers around Josh's neck. Shug-night-ish type of person.

Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah. No, but nobody wants to give off that energy these days. Hell no. Nobody wants to be the Shug-night type. Mental illness. We're a little too aware of it. Today's times when you just do a little bit of anything, You want to be a...

Starting point is 00:06:26 He wants to be a bully. Gangs are bad. Unless you can find these activities to Clubhouse, and then you could be as much of a shug as you want. You know what drops on a couple days is my... Booking. Well, we might talk about that later, my friend. But you know what drops in a couple days

Starting point is 00:06:47 is my 1090 Jake interview that I did that is going to be a Patreon exclusive. I'm stealing Vlad TV's model I'm going to have to tell them about this at some point where basically we did an interview with 1090 Jake from afar. We're going to drop the clips one by one on the clips channel. The full interview,

Starting point is 00:07:04 you can watch it right away on the Patreon or you can wait and watch it after the fact and I'm going to try to make this a continuous relationship where we try to think of like new stuff for me and 1090 Jake to talk about over and basically if you're not getting the picture, I'm trying to make 1090 Jake my boozy. Pause.

Starting point is 00:07:20 Okay. That's good. Why you got to pause that? Because gay dudes say Bousy and they mean pussy, but like boy pussy. Oh, Bussy. Like boy pussy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Throw that boy pussy. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:31 I have a request. I want to make it clear that 1090 Jake and I do not have that kind of relationship. Thanks for clarifying. The streets now can rest. I have no knowledge of 1090 Jakes busy. Or lack thereof. I have requests. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:47 Can you please name the fucking food show title? It's been a month and the people think the show is fucking canceled. I will have you know that I sent a snort. email to the team today saying, I would appreciate some suggestions for the title because like I did the title and I'm like, I need verbiage. I need you guys to like suggest things to describe the food, especially because I'm watching the video and it's like you guys are eating this ridiculously succulent steak type thing that's like sitting in this huge pot of just juices and it looks so insane. But I am not a food guy. So I don't really know like

Starting point is 00:08:21 what to put in the title. Why do you make everything sound gay? What? Like succulent with juices. You're over no homoing this podcast. We're going to talk about that. You can't say that anymore is pause now, Adam. No, but I'm saying that like, you can't say no homo. Oh yeah. As long as I've been into podcasting, like I remember back in the early days of Combat Jack,

Starting point is 00:08:40 and I'm talking 2016, talking 2017, that they had a referendum come down where they decided that as black men that they didn't want to, and I guess there was a white guy too, so I can be premium Pete in this example, but that they didn't want to keep playing the pause game so heavy because they felt like it was taking

Starting point is 00:08:56 away from some of the quality of the discussion that they were having by having to say pause every five seconds. Now, I think that the right thing to do is that you should, at some point, abide by the true nature of the pause game, which is to say that you only say pause when it's something that really is exceedingly gay. Now, I'm... Bussy. I might have crossed the line with the busy thing, but I thought that was hilarious because... It was funny. Just the fact of, like, I don't think anybody's ever done a joke where they confused little Bousie with the Bussie. That's a good one. I'm just saying, I think I was bringing something new to the table there.

Starting point is 00:09:30 Somebody's going to be a rapper named Lil Bussie one day. Yeah, I was looking at his balls, pause. Yeah, yeah, him and Lil Nas X got a whole mixtape coming. But, I mean, I just say all that to say that I think that you need to on a podcast feel like you have the right to call somebody out for over pausing because it is a thing. And at a certain point, it kind of takes away from the podcast. And we've probably all done it. A pause cast.

Starting point is 00:09:55 That might be one. Right there. Becomes a podcast. Let me ask you something lush. Yes, sir. Let's have a little chit chat with a lush here. We could do that. Was he in detention?

Starting point is 00:10:10 I noticed that you seemed to notice the chat, perhaps having some comments, some chitter-chatter, some feedback. What are you taking from the chat and from the fans in terms of your performance? pause now what do you mean like what do you mean well you came to me right after the podcast

Starting point is 00:10:37 last time and said like hey like I know there's a lot of comments saying that I was talking too much or whatever and like you know I just want to let you know that I'm not going to do that all the time or whatever like what what did you take like what made you think of that fuck this nigger he said that because we saw him say it in the comments well I didn't and I also lush I don't want you to get into the the groove of feeling like you're beyond criticism, which some people do on this podcast. We start talking about, yes, exactly. One of them has their hand in the air.

Starting point is 00:11:05 In terms of like, you know, I think we should all be able to sort of go back and forth and have conversations about what works and what is good on the podcast and stuff. And, you know, there was like one thing when I was kind of thinking about it after the fact I was like maybe at some point I want to point out to Lush that there is kind of like a time and a place for a meth tale, you know? It's like that that's something that I kind of feel like you could be at risk for doing. Well, yeah, it was good. It was good, I'm sure.

Starting point is 00:11:30 I don't really remember. But I think that, you know, that's just like one thing that I might want to throw out there is that like sometimes, you know, that's something to think about. Is that, you know, like when you want to pick and choose the moments for the meth tales. No, absolutely. And I felt like. Meth tales are like a genre. Bad podcast. It is.

Starting point is 00:11:51 Because it's kind of a genre. The equivalent for me in Housephone is like. Like when we sort of find ourselves just telling like Xanax stories for 45 minutes on the podcast. Because it's like it's kind of like easy low-hanging fruit. I could do Xanax stories too. Right. You are the new house phone. Adam's going to just try to pick on you all day.

Starting point is 00:12:07 But see, this is why you are retarded. It is because you say picking on instead of like working on the podcast. Like it doesn't need to be framed as like bullying or like antagonizing because that's not at all. I'm not going to say bullying, but sometimes you can send a fucking text. No, I specifically. You don't have to do it for the whole world. Well, no, I think this is a good concept. to talk about Lush's status.

Starting point is 00:12:26 I specifically asked for feedback. I'm saying. Like, I want to. And that's why you, don't do the victim narrative that AD does of trying to make everything like, oh, they're picking on me. It's like,

Starting point is 00:12:37 no, we can talk about the quality of the product without making it a bullying narrative. You haven't picked on me? No, but you're always like, but you choose to frame me giving you any advice about the podcast as me, like, basically bully.

Starting point is 00:12:48 No, I always take your advice and I implement it. Yeah, but usually you'll, like, argue with me for a while first and try. to act like I don't have a point and everything before you do that. It's worth a gay. Here's the thing.

Starting point is 00:12:59 I'm not, I'm used to being the most, like, verbose person on the pod. I'm used to carrying the conversation. I'm not, I'm used to being, I'm not used to being, I'm not used to being a midget on the shoulder of giants.

Starting point is 00:13:14 You know what I mean? Little person. Wow. Wow, this is getting, pause, pause. A little person on the side. No, okay. It's, um, So when there's dead air time, which I've been told is like the number one sign of bad podcasting, I try to steer past it.

Starting point is 00:13:34 So that's just my instinct. And now I'm realizing that it's a bit excessive. And also, I'm just going to keep it 1,000% transparent. Like, I want to make sure that I'm a part of all the clips. So when there's clips, if I'm not talking in it, it's like, damn, what's this guy just standing there for sitting here? So now I realize I don't need to necessarily always need to crack a, joke or put my input in every second, even though I know a lot of people enjoy it. Well, it's a tricky balance to figure out because it's like, yeah, you want to be a part

Starting point is 00:14:02 of any conversation. And like, you know, it gets trickier and trickier, the more that you're around other people and you maybe at a certain point realize like, fuck, they're having a really good conversation about something that I don't necessarily have something to offer about. So I'm just going to cede ground to them and just completely like excuse myself from this for like 15 minutes. That's all I felt when we were doing the thing with academics of Gillian Wallow and Wack is like at a certain point I'm like I'm not going to go crazy trying to make myself a part of this conversation when clearly it has nothing to do with me and it's it's going very well without me you know it's a sparring match it's kind of a weird

Starting point is 00:14:35 dynamic I'll just wait till you guys bring up meth and then I'll pipe up and how's the clip of lush one talks about how meth destroyed his teeth how's that doing that was a pretty good title 60k see that's pretty legit yeah yeah people tend to enjoy that content but I also don't want that to be the primary mechanism steering the conversation. I have, here's the thing. I will, you said, like, you only have one chance in your podcast career to tell all the stories. I have an infinite reservoir of stories.

Starting point is 00:15:03 And it's not because I'm like such a cool person. It's because I've lived a colorful life because I've had such a dysfunctional existence. And I've kind of stumbled upon a lot of things that make for interesting fodder in conversations. But that don't mean that I need to assert them every single five minutes. Yeah, because it's like, there's always this kind of battle in your head of personal anecdotes, like telling a story about yourself to like illustrate the point. You know, like we could be talking about some fucking thing. God damn, I forgot my notes.

Starting point is 00:15:34 Could somebody grab this from my office? Thanks. Yeah. And they all leaped up simultaneously too. If you all could have just seen what that looked like. I forgot. The new guy, he's so cool. I had a couple pieces of paper.

Starting point is 00:15:47 But, you know, because it's like always like. Josh number two. Do you want to take this moment to sort of share a personal anecdote about yourself that kind of relates to it? And I feel like as a podcast, so that's the thing I think about a lot is like when is it time for me to personalize this, especially when I'm interviewing somebody. Because it's like I feel like that needs to be like 90% them, 10% me. So it's like if I am going to share a little thing about me, I want to be like very thoughtful about when it's worth doing it. No, absolutely. And I don't want to personalize every conversation.

Starting point is 00:16:19 I think a lot of it... We already have AD for that. Superhero complex. Right. And I think a lot of it had to do with... Let's say it's like a gang. And there's the newest member on the set. He just jumped off the porch.

Starting point is 00:16:32 He got to do a lot to prove himself. He got to put in work. He got to earn his stripes. You're trying to catch some bodies for the team. I had to go out and demonstrate my value. And I feel like now that I've done that, and people are saying, you know, have shut up. me with compliments of what I bring to the table. It's unnecessary. Now I'm just another member of the team.

Starting point is 00:16:54 I know you're a diehard Reddit reader. You've seen the graph of like the heroes arc or whatever like or like the podcast arc where it's like you're like unknown and then you're loved by everyone and then you're hated by everyone. And it's like that is reality unless you can like provide enough value to continue to be useful to the audience essentially, you know? Right. And then on top of it I think A lot of it is about being genuine, not being self-aware, being genuine, and not being egotistical. I think that's the number one thing that tends, not just with this audience, but with any audience. When they see that you're feeling yourself too much, they're like, we can't relate to this guy anymore. He thinks he's better than us.

Starting point is 00:17:38 Fuck him. I respect how serious you're taking this. No, this is the most important thing in my life, like, ever. I don't got nothing else. Like, you know what I mean? Like this is I want to be the best I possibly can be. I see a potential for a huge, you know, I could be, I could be Adam 23. You feel like Joe Budden?

Starting point is 00:17:58 Like the music was like not doing that good. So you're like, I like that. I could find new life through rocking a K-Subi had on the no-jumper pod. Subi. But the thing. I always say K-Subi. House Funn's not even hearing. I'm still getting shit for that.

Starting point is 00:18:12 The thing about it is it's made every other aspect of my, like all my music. music, my streams are through the roof. Really? Yeah. Like my streams are through the roof. All the views on all my old content interviews, they're all going up. Fans are digging up my old shit,

Starting point is 00:18:27 showing it hell of love. That's that Reddit stimulus package, I guess. Yeah, which is super dope, but that doesn't make me want to... That doesn't make me want to do that other stuff more. It makes me want to lean into this because I feel like there's never been any aspect of my creativity that lends itself to my strength.

Starting point is 00:18:48 as an individual as podcasting and this being the platform that I've watched more than anything else. It's like, I might as well rock with it. Like, we in an era, baby. And the fact that I'm able to be a seminal part of this All-Star team is fire. What's the definition of seminal? So basically put my- Is it related to Seaman? How about this? Put my picture on the flyer for the live show. He said, fuck Blasey. I didn't say remove anybody. No, but I'm saying The flyer is just At the end of the day, Sharp and the

Starting point is 00:19:22 No Jumper show featuring Housephone. That is a good point. Yeah, Housephone is on the flyer. But it's like... On the end of the phone? Imagine Housephone not showing up to the fucking live show. He's definitely showing up. He can't fight off the cloud. I think out of, you know, just to be generous,

Starting point is 00:19:38 it should be all four of us for the No Jumper show on the live show. We don't... Look, I'm just going to say this, whether or not... You're down with that? Sure. Whether or not I'm on the flyer, we're going to see what happens when Lush One stepped on stage. We go see.

Starting point is 00:19:53 He raised a war. We go see what the people have to say at that moment. You're going to come out and show your pussy? I'm going to throw that boy pussy. You're going to come out and spit a verse or something? I'm not going to need to. They're going to be spinning my verse for me. I'm just coming out and being myself.

Starting point is 00:20:08 You should get a face tattoo. Maybe I'll lose my virginity that day. I don't know. You should definitely get a face tattoo. I told you all I want to get the head tattoo. tattoo. I want to get the... That shit hurt. Do it? Yeah, it's all right.

Starting point is 00:20:19 I got tats all over. I want to get the Julius Caesar leaves around my head. Oh, that's a great idea. For a bald guy. It's kind of fire. Permanently having that on your head, what could go wrong? Yeah, you're going to love that idea forever. I'll fuck with it. What's wrong with it?

Starting point is 00:20:35 I mean... It's better than having fucking Lisa Simpson. No, for sure. Don't you have a cock on your forehead? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want you to fucking talk. A cock with a swastika on it on your forehead. Sure, I want you to look like the little Caesar's guy for the rest of your life. For sure, I won't say pizza pizza

Starting point is 00:20:51 every time I see you. Hey, that's a good one. Hey, Josh, please bring that up. Pizza, pizza. You got to wear a toga. Hey, it's... Rock that toga. You know what, though?

Starting point is 00:21:02 It's better than having a bald-ass head. At least I'll be something else and I won't be Uncle Fester anymore. Like, I'm trying to shake this... Yeah, Uncle Fester is like... Are you down to be Lord Veras for Halloween for the office party? Okay, I could...

Starting point is 00:21:15 So there's, it's either that, the penguin. You be quiet on the set, guys. Wow, yes. You look, put us in the corner. Lushey, lush. Man, we should order one right now. I don't know, like five bucks. Six dollars now.

Starting point is 00:21:28 Six? Highway robbery, never mind. I'm gonna tell these, if these bitches say that, that I'm like the little Caesar guy, I'm gonna say, bitch, I'm hot and ready. Come on. Bars. Fall back.

Starting point is 00:21:37 And I got that cheesy bread. You dig? And I got them cinnamon sticks. Making cheesy. Believe me, baby. What else they have? Cinnamon sticks? The breast sticks are fire.

Starting point is 00:21:48 I'm going to be real with you. I don't know if I ate one of those things in like 10 years. It's a poverty meal. Yeah. It's a great poverty meal. It's a great poverty meal. It's the pizza you would eat if you had no other pizza option available. It's the pizza you get when there's like 15 kids around.

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Starting point is 00:23:36 a little while ago, so maybe I'll just practice Vincero in the meantime. Did you really have a Brightling at one point? I have a brightling. How much were those? The one, the one, the, the, the, come with your car? The super indented, didn't. Oh, what I was like? Flex. My car came with umbrellas in it. It show did. Your did? No. It's a jerk out song. I met her, I met a girl who has a weed line called Princess Cuts yesterday, and I said

Starting point is 00:23:59 Princess Cuts on my wrist like a emo bitch. Fire. No clue. For real? Felt bad. All the dick riding will get a sucker flip. I'm like, damn, I just wasted that reference. That's an incredible. And that's one of Draco's, my favorite Drakeo bars, because that's like a battle rap-esque punchline. That's like as lyrical as you can possibly get. That's like a double on time drip. I love that.

Starting point is 00:24:22 That's one of my favorite lyrics from anybody ever. Thank you. I breakdance when I hit the- That's shit. The new shit is dope, but I stand on this forever. Draco's magnum opus is cold devil. That's him at his absolute best. That's like the most nimble flow he ever had.

Starting point is 00:24:38 I agree. It's the best beats. It just like, it just captured such, such like a snapshot into an era. But it's the craziest shit ever when you listen to how he used to sound back in the day and how he sounded towards his later releases and how different his voice got. I like his very first project. Me too. Yeah, I like the old stuff.

Starting point is 00:24:56 I've been gone to 60 seconds. It's honestly like two different rappers. It's like totally different stylistically. Like, I fuck with both of it. No, I love it all too. I mean, I break dance when I hit the one. Anyone that knows me knows that Draco's like pretty much been my favorite. rapper for the past like seven years.

Starting point is 00:25:12 Sorry granddad. Right. But, but the, um, post prison or post incarceration PTSD, Draco that's like super infatuated with just pressing lines. It doesn't hit me as much as like, you know, I'm flocking. I'm on some fly shit era of Draco. Like, you know, um. Well, speaking of flocking.

Starting point is 00:25:36 Well, not exactly. But congratulations to our boy. Dirk who beat his charge and apparently King Vaughn was the guy who shot the dude. I remember when that happened when he first... I don't know if there's none the clap for. It's not really like what you want to celebrate. It's unfortunate because in reality it's like,

Starting point is 00:25:58 oh, Vaughn would have been being dragged through the fucking legal system if this was still available for them to charge him with. That would be the least of his problems in all honesty. That's true. Yeah, that's a good point. Vaughn would definitely be up north for the rest of his life, realistically at some point. But still the fact that Dirk doesn't have to deal with this anymore when it was hanging

Starting point is 00:26:16 over his head for like a huge portion of his career, that's actually pretty amazing. So I'm definitely happy for him. And we all probably owe him a little bit of grace that we probably didn't give him at a certain point because I think at a certain point everybody thought that Dirk was kind of fucked over this case because they allegedly had video of him fucking shooting the guy. I don't know if they just saw what they wanted. to see in the video or if they just charge them together, but at one point

Starting point is 00:26:45 they were claiming that they had actual video footage of Dirk leaning out the window and shooting this guy. I work with some of Dirk's producers and the rumors, or the conversation within his camp was that Dirk might get washed for this. And that was a narrative when it happened

Starting point is 00:27:01 for a long time. People were very concerned that were close to him that he was going to get caught up for this. So I agree. He doesn't need to have this hanging over his head in the midst of all this success. And it's crazy because you could look at Vaughn in this in two different ways. Now there's enough murders attached to Vaughn. There's like literally, this wasn't a murder, this is an attempt,

Starting point is 00:27:21 but he's got like four murders that have been put on him since his death or multiple murders to the point where he qualifies as a serial killer. Based on the, like, and I'm not saying he is one, but based on the definition of what a serial killer is, he has done enough to meet those qualifications. Now, if you look at it from that perspective, it's like, damn, what are we really listening to and celebrating? I think as rap fans, though, honestly, like, we're pretty lucky to have gotten to live through that. Because think about it, they have to go and, like, recreate Jeffrey Dahmer's crimes.

Starting point is 00:27:56 You know, they have to make this whole series about him as shit. King Vaughn was tweeting and making music about this shit while it was happening. Realistically, even if he hadn't tweeted about it, because I don't think they need to, like, rely on tweets or shit that happened in video. or whatever to prove that any of this stuff happened. But the fact that he shared that much of his life almost as if he knew that he just wasn't really meant for this world or that he wasn't going to be around to deal with the consequences, it's pretty incredible.

Starting point is 00:28:25 There are tweets with him and that girl going back and forth. Oh, yeah. And I was just interviewing FBG Young and FBG Dutchy, and I asked them. I'm like, how do you feel? I brought up the whole thing about Trappler-Ross getting threatened by King Vaughn's team or somebody representing King Vaughan to basically delete the stuff about KI from his video.

Starting point is 00:28:44 And I actually called them out because I go, I go, you're doing the drill rapper thing because they're like, oh, I don't think he killed her. Like, right, right, right. You know, they don't want to ever like ignore. They don't want to give him the glory. They never want to give the glory to an app for sure, yeah. And I just called it out as soon as they did it.

Starting point is 00:28:58 And I'm like, I'm so glad I'm at this point in my rapper interviewing career where I can just call this for what it is. And they laughed their asses off because they knew that they were doing the exact thing that I was saying they were doing. Joe Budden, don't watch this conversation, please. No, you should definitely, you should definitely check it out.

Starting point is 00:29:12 Is tool you all you now, too? Oh, man. Oh, you got some thoughts on you. Joe and me are cool. We've known each other. You think. I mean, we'll see. Until he realizes that you're a Potter.

Starting point is 00:29:22 Yeah, we'll see. Call me Harry Potter. Don't play with me. Harry Potter. That's my new ad lib. Fox. I saw Southside post this clip with some random kid rapping, and then the adlib is just Harry Potter over and over and over.

Starting point is 00:29:33 And I just forgot about it. And I have to, I'm just like saying this so I can bookmark it and go look at the Instagram post later. But talking about like the... Put it in the Reddit. The drill era tweets, the most sinister one to me that always struck me is like so cold was after Jojo got murdered and then Sosa tweeted the laughing emojis like, ha ha ha ha, Jojo wanted to be just like us.

Starting point is 00:29:56 And this is like the day he died. That just like told you everything that you needed to know about how coldhearted a lot of these dudes were and just really painted the picture for you. Like in case you didn't get the point, death is nothing to these motherfuckers. That's like the new one. They was like, what does a little dirt world for his birthday? See, he's already dead.

Starting point is 00:30:20 Well, it's like, look, these are people that he's, these are people that potentially killed his people that love him. So it's like, of course you're going to look at them in a dehumanizing manner, right? Right. No, I mean, that's what they're setting it up for you. They give you all the information you need to be a fucking hater when you listen to their music, right? And with that being said, if you look at it from a

Starting point is 00:30:41 street perspective, Vaughn did the right thing holding Dirk down in that moment, busting the shots for him. So was someone trying to rob them or what happened to that? Allegedly, it's like something to that degree. You know, so I did what he was supposed to do. He did. I just interviewed this dude, Joe Koscarrelli from the New York Times, right? And he writes about rap for New York Times and he took time to write this whole book about Atlanta, He spent mad time with a little baby. So a little baby's kind of like the focus of the book. He spent mad time with Lil Rieke.

Starting point is 00:31:13 You remember him? He was like signed to Bredinski at some point. And like his career has kind of floundered since then. He spent a shitload of time with Marlowe who was like signed to QC and like was the little baby's homie before he got killed and everything. And so I read this whole book over the weekend and interviewed him. And it was just like really fascinating sort of like seeing the extent to which he really crept into all these fucking people's lives.

Starting point is 00:31:35 and just spent so much time with them and stuff just for the for this book and I was thinking I'm like There's so many stories that I've been up close and personal with that I could Feasibly write a book about you know, but then when I was thinking about it and I'm like the I feel like the draco thing needs a book But what am I gonna bring to the table that Trapp Laura Ross didn't do in that fucking video like it would be very Difficult to bring more to the table than what that motherfucker did in that video. It's too early for that though well but these days you know like nowadays but the six nine thing happens and there's three documentaries out within like two years crazy though yeah and i'm in all about it but there's also a difference like traplora ross is an amazing archivist and he broke it down but he's also like

Starting point is 00:32:22 looking at it from an outsider's perspective you have inside you've hung out with these dudes you really know them and but that was the crazy thing about talking to joe costcarelli too is that like dude he works for the new york time so he's got like access to the best journalistic resources. I don't really know even what most of them would be, but in terms of having fact checkers on staff and being able to get access, like the reason why he's spending so much time with a little baby and shit

Starting point is 00:32:47 is because he has a fucking New York Times email. You know, like people are just down to pick up the phone or down to email you back when they realize that you're from the biggest fucking paper in the world, right? And so even he was basically just saying that he has a huge amount of respect for 1090 Jake and Trapa Loire. and that like you know because I was saying like with dudes like that being just like a completely

Starting point is 00:33:09 independent YouTuber who's covering shit the door is completely open for you to just like do a bad job of covering this shit and basically you know do fake news techniques and like sort of outrageous shit to like welcome to swamp stories but like when you really look at how a lot of these guys are doing their thing it's like they're they're taking the responsibility that they have with the size of their platforms very seriously and with somebody even like 1090 j doing the paperwork for 16 he do his due diligence before he put it up yeah he's like he and he's taking down videos that are getting millions of views because he thinks that they're fucking misrepresenting somebody like in the case where he did the video about a about a 100k track and shit like that you know it's like it's that's

Starting point is 00:33:55 what inspires me is like seeing the YouTuber sphere actually taking itself serious enough would you take that advice if you find something inaccurate would you take a video down of course it's all the time I felt bad because fresh hit me up last week saying that he didn't actually he wasn't the one who put the video out oh and I watched this whole long ass video with

Starting point is 00:34:17 academics and him arguing about it and I thought 100% that that was how it happened it's how people title shit down yeah and it baits you in yeah they got me a little bit there and see that's the that is the only problem with YouTube as you said before it doesn't have the same checks and balancing system

Starting point is 00:34:32 However, I get 95% of my news from YouTube. I don't read the New York Times. I get 95% of my news from David Russell. The greatest. Oh, my good. The absolute goat. But has anyone actually been able to identify like, identify like his Instagram?

Starting point is 00:34:51 I think it's, that's my theory. That's me personally. No, because what Flocko doesn't have graphic design skills? He couldn't make all those motion graphics and shit. That's fair. They could definitely be Flacco, but I don't know. And while everyone streams, before the streams is over, they post the shit up.

Starting point is 00:35:11 I don't flaco be doing that shit all the time. Flacco, if Flacco has a free hour or two in his day, he's going to be making content for his YouTube channel, I think. I don't think he's doing all that for free just to celebrate the No Jumper lore. The last couple of streams that I've been on, before I've got off my, soon as I get off my streams, I see Flacco posting on his Instagram, shit from my streams. I think Falco is David Russell. Flacco has a whole team of dudes helping him. If he was able to get, if the David Russell channel somehow becomes monetized, it's Flaco.

Starting point is 00:35:42 It probably is monetized. I mean, why wouldn't it be? Maybe they need to get some higher stats, though. It might be, like, close to having enough. I think it has enough stats, but I think the content ID would prevent it from being monetized, right? In theory, though, that shouldn't matter. Really? Because getting your channel monetized is about the number of subscribers you have and the number of

Starting point is 00:36:02 watch hours you have. And so even if you get that from stuff that is being claimed by somebody else like us, it doesn't matter. It's like you're still getting the watch time in it. And then you'd still be able to monetize other videos that aren't being claimed. So it for show is Flacco is essentially what you're saying. But when I was on Twitch all day on Sunday, which I'll be on Twitch again all day Sunday, playing poker again this Sunday.

Starting point is 00:36:25 But it was like, I'm saying like, how can I talk to him? Like we see all this shit from them. But, like, how do I have a conversation with him? Because I would love to just, like, hear his voice and have a chat on Twitch. My second thought is you. Imagine me having the time to do that. I have a theory. I don't even watch 90% of the shit that he clips to make the clips.

Starting point is 00:36:51 You want to hear my theory? Yes. You want to hear a lot? Yeah. I think. Parker's doing it? No. Adam has somebody doing it because he gets to eat off of it.

Starting point is 00:37:01 back on fig. He gets to eat off community clips. He gets to eat off harmonious gang. He gets to eat off of Ace Boys worldwide. This is his way of getting the bread. And continuing. You know what I'm saying? That channel's definitely given no jumper

Starting point is 00:37:16 clips to run for its money. Let's keep it a full bundle in these streets. The flock or Adam 22. You think that I would want to be associated with being the one who brought videos

Starting point is 00:37:30 out into the world and I don't even feel comfortable like vaguely describing what like is one of these videos that you may remember and there's been other videos that are similar to what you're probably thinking about mixing you know references

Starting point is 00:37:46 between people I want people to like really get along more I really think a lot of this beef is like more problematic and not really worth it that's what that is a great veil of deception to hide behind exactly because for somebody it used to be dissing people and Hansen forms and stuff, I think that you could be pulling some strings.

Starting point is 00:38:06 The thing is, is that all of my time is accounted for. Not the jackshank times. You want to look through my phone? No. I'm just saying. See, I think you came prepared for that. I'm just saying like, delete the industry. No, look at, you could look through my camera all right now.

Starting point is 00:38:20 It's not his first road here. You might see some dick pics. You might like it. But you're not going to see any fucking, you know, or even me. Imagine me making those fucking motion graphics. But I feel like you do. Whoever does that is so fucking talented. I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:38:33 It's crazy. I don't want to, like, make an assumption, but I feel like he's an Asian high school kid. You know, like, some people. Shouts to my Asians that are so good at things like that. You know what I was thinking about, though? I heard some people within our group be like, like, why would someone do this? Like, how could someone ever take this much time to do this? And I was thinking about it, like, it's not that different.

Starting point is 00:39:00 than what we're doing on here. It's like we all clearly get a thrill out of making content and putting it out there into the world and seeing the reaction. And it's like, yeah, it's not his content, but he's adding his own touch to it with the editing and the themes and the titles or whatever. So it's like if I was a young dude

Starting point is 00:39:17 who wasn't making content or if I just was the kind of person who didn't want to make content, I understand the urge, you know? I think it's somewhere in the office for sure. I mean, it's essentially, it's podcast fan fiction. do it to read, but it's podcast and nonfiction. They've never brought anything to the table that wasn't publicly available.

Starting point is 00:39:37 No, but they were in the office. They would have access. They would understand the lore even more. But I think somebody is smart enough to know. Let me just take the clips and title it the way like that and put it out there. Bassa. Are you trying to get me to segue into talking about Bossa Nova dressing as Ice Spice for Halloween? I did not know this.

Starting point is 00:39:53 Spice ice. I just want to know how Suss he's going to go with it because he could so pass. add his butt and wear a gray mini skirt. Speaking of bushy. Or he could do like a dude version of Ice Spice where he does the hair and he like rocks like a gray like jumpsuit that's like, oh. Is he really dressing in his Ice Spice? Well, I just don't know how girly he's going to go with it.

Starting point is 00:40:16 No, he really's doing it. You got to watch the out of focus podcast to find out. But he did say that. I don't know. He's going to look like this. I don't come out to my home. Little orphan bosser. I mean, I'm hyped.

Starting point is 00:40:29 I want to see what he had. Ice Space looks like because I actually thought about cross-dressing as Ice Spice at one point just so that I could title it Old Spice. Okay. And I thought about it. I'm like, wouldn't that be funny if I showed up for a podcast episode one day and I get my makeup fully done in the morning. I get a wig. I fucking rock a gray miniskirt with fake boobs and I pad my butt. I rock some shoes, whatever. I shave my legs. It would be fucking weird. That's commitment. But the thing is Miss 22 fire. I think it would be tight just as like a comedian or I don't know if I qualify as a comedian,

Starting point is 00:41:04 but a person who appreciates funny things, I feel like I also would probably never live it down. No. In terms of like the rap fan base, like it would be used like in response to like everything I do for the rest of my life, the same way that like the video where Leonard did my makeup like five years ago, people always respond with that photo. That would look crazy. As if I used to actually, like, roll around like this. Like, this was how I was living.

Starting point is 00:41:32 That one looks crazy, though. Yeah, it looks sick. If Bossa just took this carpet right here, this rug, and put it on top of his head. He can get that. He's low-key, pull it off. Shout out to the rug. But the fact, like, would you look at Bossa Nova differently if he came through just fully in drag? No.

Starting point is 00:41:49 Just like Ice Spice? No. You wouldn't, but you're into trans people. Would you? Honestly. This is a false narrative, by the way. I'm for sure not. Or a drag queen, I guess, as the case may be.

Starting point is 00:42:00 I would think that he doesn't like women anymore. But you don't have enough information to make that assumption. I was just saying what I would personally think. Because he dressed as a chick one time? And if that's what he wants to do, then that's fine. Boss of the homie, but don't he be like painting his nails and shit? I swear to God. All the young kids do that.

Starting point is 00:42:18 Adam paint his nails. That's a step in that. Yeah, when Louis Yadi sent you this shit, you painted your nails. I painted one nail for the vlog to see what the nail polish was like. No, that's Custer shit. I don't do that. But for sure, like a lot. I sucked one dick.

Starting point is 00:42:31 Brandon Began rocks the fucking nail polish. He's the wizard. I'm just saying. He rocks in that. I'm saying a lot of young dudes don't. A lot of younger dudes, they do that. They're like, I might not be gay, but I can at least paint my nails. It's very glamorous.

Starting point is 00:42:45 I see a lot of rappers doing it. Didn't I see Annelie Chapper or something the other day? Snoop did it. He did it a couple times. Snoop? If Snoop did it, then it's automatically like pimp OG status. Snoop had a little. He had the French tip.

Starting point is 00:42:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't, like, full painted, but, you know. What's the French tip? Where they just put the little white thing on the guy? Yeah, a little strip. What the fuck is that about? Girls like it. Did you see the TikTok with a house phone with a shiny fucking toes?

Starting point is 00:43:10 Oh, yeah. That shit was weird. But there's nothing wrong with getting a pedicure. No, you got to get your shit clean, man. Yeah, but I learned the lesson, too, because I got my toes done one time and got the shiny shit and just realized, like, oh, that's not it. Like, you want to get more of a mat finish. You don't want it on your toes.

Starting point is 00:43:26 You want to get your shine and buffer. You don't want to see some guys they get the clear polish. You don't do that. That's us. You get to shine and you get to shine and buffer. Okay. Yeah, yeah. That sounds more right.

Starting point is 00:43:36 See, your shit squeak, kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, when they're doing your shit. Just have like three women on each foot. Just like, yeah, there's something kind of pimp about it. That's how it is living for sure. I fuck with it. Yeah? What, get them done, getting them clean? Do you should, are you at the status in your life where you go to get your toes done?

Starting point is 00:43:54 Or do you have an Asian woman? come to you. I'll go every, I try to go at least once a month, sometimes twice a month. You be, you be, uh, May Ling bopping. I got it. Um, this weekend, Jake Paul and Anderson Silva highlight the main event of what could be the biggest boxing pay-per-view of the year. Whether you're a diehard or a casual fan, every punch that lands could be another win at my bookie. Predict individual matchupy. Predict individual matchupy. bet on fights to go the distance or bet on one of my personal favorites, fighter to win by knockout for a much bigger payout.

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Starting point is 00:45:14 that watch we're supposed to have that on the table um but then at the same time it's like dude i spent all those years just watching Anderson silver just beat the dog shit out of fucking in everybody. Usually kicking everybody. Oh, this is boxing. This is boxing. That is a good point. It's a big difference.

Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah. That's a good point. Jake Paul at this point, it's crazy. He's one of the most exciting things in the sport of boxing. Whether or not people want to acknowledge it, he's selling more pay per views. Oh, hands down. He's getting people to pay attention to the sweet science, which has been very overlooked, especially with the emergence of the UFC.

Starting point is 00:45:53 He's out here with the lean belly. You see those TikToks? Come on. That's what you do if you're Jake Paul. You got to go out there and get a cybernetic belly to do promo for your fight. You think this is going to be a successful fight though? Because I think that's a big question in a lot of people's minds is like, is the scheme running out on the influencer boxing thing? Because didn't Jake Paul's last fight do not that great in comparison?

Starting point is 00:46:18 But what other fights are even garnering close to the same amount of conversation? Yeah. Literally Wilder and Fury part three is the last non-celebrity fight that anybody was really talking about. Plus one, Canelo. Canelo and Triple G. Yeah, Canello, that's it. I think if you, I think that this is the fight that is going to get people to pay attention because, like, Jake Paul has fought a bunch of people with decent names, but Anderson's a different level. And so I think that there's going to be a lot of interest, but does that always translate into

Starting point is 00:46:49 pay-per-view buys when a lot of people are just kind of like, you know, I could just watch. a fucking clip on Twitter like a half hour later right well not really like 30 seconds later the thing is if you're an actual fan of boxing you know that most people have to fight a bunch of literal no names before they even get a shot jake paul kind of came out when the gigo yeah like fighting people like no names and it's only been increasingly more like bigger as he's gone the nay robinson knockout like that started the the hype train in a lot of ways. Because that's when he first went outside YouTuber. And, man. But I know a way that he can really kill it. Who? He fight his brother.

Starting point is 00:47:34 Oh, yeah. His brother is huge. His brother's a lot bigger than him for sure. But then he's, but he's like way more seasoned as a fighter. Yeah. I don't know. They've talked about it a lot. But just think about everybody would tune in to watch them.

Starting point is 00:47:47 They would totally do it. Like, regardless of if they planned on actually trying to knock each other out, they would 100% do it at if the time was right in their careers to just get the payday. They would be able to pull the wool over our eyes for sure. But that's the thing. How would you incentivize like making sure they actually take it seriously? They can make so much money fighting other people. I feel like they're more likely to do that when they like don't have to.

Starting point is 00:48:10 They just both clearly have so many fucking opportunities on their plates. Yeah. You know? Then I see Logan Paul in WWE. Well, he's been doing a shitload of that. That's crazy. And I saw that like they, I'm not sure how the fan reception doing now, but at least at first, there was a lot of diehard W.W.F.F.F. Fans were not feeling

Starting point is 00:48:29 him and were pissed off about him invading their space, you know? I mean, it's been like that for the entirety of these dudes' career. Every time they step into a new arena, people are like trying to gatekeep it and like, no, we don't want you. Like, and look, I love wrestling too, but it's like people try to act like it's this super noble art form. Like, oh, God forbid, God forbid Logan Paul steps into the realm. of aggressive male cosplay. Like, come on. You know, I like that the UFC fight over the weekend was in Abu Dhabi, so it started at like 11 a.m. or some shit.

Starting point is 00:49:03 So I literally was already up. I'm eating bright face, just got done my cardio. And I'm like, oh, fuck. I could just go pay for this pay-per-view and just sit on the couch for the next three hours and watch this fucking fight and not have to do anything on a Saturday afternoon. That's exactly what I did.

Starting point is 00:49:17 And I had a great time. When is your family going to back? I think Thursday? Like next Thursday? So I have like 10 days or nine days or some shit. And you'd be acting like you don't have time on your hands. All right, David Russell. We see you, homie.

Starting point is 00:49:31 But when I'm in here, like, working for 10 hours straight, it's like, it just is like, it wouldn't matter if my fucking family was here either. Like yesterday, I was here from 10 a.m. to fucking 8 p.m. doing content. Probably in that off. Which is why it's so funny that you guys think I have time to be David Russell. You're like low on it. I'm like flaco. Then I have one more theory.

Starting point is 00:49:52 But this is an easy. thing for you guys to prove as soon as you open up the possibility that I have somebody doing it for me because then all of a sudden like anything's possible I think that you're that sinister that you would do that no to be funny though I don't go to fuck although I'm gonna be honest I'm thankful that there's somebody who does it I'm glad I don't live in a world where it doesn't exist because it makes me laugh my ass off but did you watch um okay I got a couple of no jump in universe things to ask you number one did you watch the the the pop-up podcast that came up with without Kiki. Lupe, who's, who's, I don't think I ever realized how insane her laugh was until that

Starting point is 00:50:30 podcast. I didn't, I didn't watch, I saw the clip, but it's been removed from the internet. Why? I don't know, but it's not on the channel anymore. Um, yeah, like the, so essentially Kiki's investors, the dudes that are behind the book, Rick, Rick and Ralph. Rick and Ralph. Right.

Starting point is 00:50:48 Very nice dudes. The one dude went off on a tirade at one point about how if he was, kid misbehaved that he would like hang him. I don't think he meant like literally hang him. But that, that was the one thing that I was like, whoa. That was probably one. That was like a deal.

Starting point is 00:51:02 That was a lot. Okay. And then Lupe's laugh was a lot. And then in the beginning when they were switching the camera angles, and it was like the audio kept getting fucked up. That might have been why they removed it, but that was pretty funny. I feel like with Lupe,

Starting point is 00:51:18 I want to see a real genuine dialogue with this woman outside of her character. I want to know this fascinating story of this like Chicano woman from South Central who wound up being

Starting point is 00:51:32 a member of a prevalent black gang like and that but has... You don't think Cam Capone dug deep enough? We never really... It seems like everything

Starting point is 00:51:41 winds up being comedic and this character neighborhood bro and all that. I want to know really about her. I'm like kind of fascinating. She was selling Chalupon. A loop. And then she met Crip Mac outside the studio.

Starting point is 00:51:56 And then she got a no jumper appearance. She got a Cam Capone interview. All of a sudden, she's popping up at the pop-up. Oh, look. It's still online. Never mind. Yeah, it's sitting there spreading false narrative. Look at this title.

Starting point is 00:52:06 Talking. CMAQ wanting a BBW? Okay. David Russell changing the game. For some reason, I read that is CMA wanting a BBL real quick. I got, yeah. That's what I was actually thinking at the same exact time. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:52:20 Honestly, he should. Yo, I had Jonathan Wright in here You know him? Who's that? He's like a hairstylist, dude. He's like a hairstylist like Nikki Minaj and City Girls and Meg and everything

Starting point is 00:52:30 and he fucking... Well, you know what the logical question is. What? He's gay, right? Yeah. Yeah. But okay. So...

Starting point is 00:52:37 Spoiler. I basically, like, said stuff like assuming he was gay and he almost kind of like got offended. Because I guess he fucks the chicks too, I think. He said he had a kid and shit, so I got to at least have some of that. But, like, I did feel kind of weird.

Starting point is 00:52:53 I kind of felt like I offended him at a certain point because I, like, just like a, because he was talking about going to prison. And I said, and it's not out yet, so I shouldn't be spoiling it. But I said, I said, I've talked to a lot of people who went to prison. But usually we're talking about gang shit. We're talking about, like, racial shit. I've never had a conversation with a gay dude who went to prison before. And he's like, what the fuck you talk about?

Starting point is 00:53:17 He's like, wasn't 100% fucking with it. And he's like, like, why, why is that a big deal? He's like, would you be having sex? Like, would you be having sex in prison? I'm like, in a woman's prison, yeah. Like, it was like, he really didn't want to, like, acknowledge the fact that clearly prison is something that would be a lot different for a gay guy. Well, it's, you know, kind of typical for gay inmates to get victimized.

Starting point is 00:53:44 Because a lot of people who aren't gay are getting victimized. So you just assume that, like, to a gay person in jail, or prison. The situation is going to be way more different because, yo, like, if I'm gay and I go to prison, I'm going to be having a relationship. I'm going to find me a little shorty.

Starting point is 00:54:01 You're going to be tempted. If I'm gay, yeah, why the fuck wouldn't I? It's like, that's like if I go to a woman's prison. Am I going to fuck the women? Yeah. Can you identify as a woman and go to prison now?

Starting point is 00:54:12 I heard people are doing stuff like that. You should totally do it. I heard this stuff like that happening. You're going to have to get rid of that beard, though. Don't assume my gender. Like, That happens. Anytime I've been in rehab with women, I wind up in a relationship.

Starting point is 00:54:28 Every single time. So I could only assume that it would be. Oh, so all your relationships come from rehab? No, not all my relationships, but I've gotten into several relationships from rehab. You probably, that dependency. Where you want that solid rock in your life. Like, I could imagine that if I was like, like, if I felt like I was a recovering addict right now, like, as if I felt like I was, like, tempted by alcohol or drugs or

Starting point is 00:54:54 whatever, which in reality, I don't feel like that at all. I feel like if I was single, I would have no problem staying sober or whatever. But I could imagine that if I had a real problem with drugs, that becoming single would probably be the number one biggest trigger. Because number one, you start hanging out with all these different girls. Some of them are going to be drinking and doing drugs. You know, it's like all of a sudden, there's just so much more chaos in your life that you're going to want to fucking potentially engage with. Well, if you're, newly sober, if you're just getting clean, and like you're

Starting point is 00:55:24 used to leaning on vices, what's the number one thing you're going to go to? Because you can't get high anymore. Pousy. It's going to be, yeah. And rock star. So, no rock star. Pussy. Pussy. Exactly. Bussy and coffee. And that's it. Bussy and Starbucks. That's my

Starting point is 00:55:40 day to day. Yep. A little bussy. I see you. Yeah. Bussy badass. How do y'all feel about Kanye? Oh, man. This is, This is crazy because it, like, literally every time I open up my Instagram, I see something new now. So, like, I literally just seen Aaron Donald and Jalen. They fucking, Don the Sports.

Starting point is 00:56:05 They denounced that. They said they're done with Don to Sports. Who's that? Basketball players? Basketball player and football player. Okay. But that happened. Then I see the deedist thing.

Starting point is 00:56:13 I even seen Foot Locker make a fucking statement saying they won't carry Yeezys anymore. Really? Wow. I didn't see that. That's crazy. No, it's while Netflix was even talking about, they haven't done it yet, but removing the genius. And I was wondering if they were going to do that.

Starting point is 00:56:28 They're not going to. But there's a different Kanye documentary that's been being worked on, and that, I guess, has been shelved. They're not. So that's the interesting thing about it, is that if he were to have any chance of, like, getting back any percentage

Starting point is 00:56:42 of what he's lost, he's basically going on an apology tour and start living his life in a completely different way. and he doesn't show any signs of doing that. So you've got to think that now Kanye's journey, his struggle, because he's clearly still trying to be what he was trying to be his whole life, where he's trying to be this crazy billionaire,

Starting point is 00:57:02 he's trying to be this shoe entrepreneur, this fashion god, this music god, whatever. That whole path is now infinitely more difficult for him. Like he's going to have serious roadblocks in terms of manufacturing and products and getting it into retail. And then in terms of music, it's like what labels he's going to be able to work with. I mean, I feel like at the end of the day, there's still going to be people that are going to want to fuck with him just because he is so big. But it's like he's not going to be working with the biggest labels in the world. It's probably going to, it's going to be fascinating to see who's down to go along with this ride.

Starting point is 00:57:37 And I hate to see everything that's unfolding because, you know, I'm a big Kanye fan. You know, he's, I mean, at the end of the day, he's our brother. You feel me? you know, but I just wish that like he gets some real help and like not letting this shit spiral out of control. And I will be the first one, you know what I'm saying, to accept him back, if he, you know I'm saying, if he sees the error and what he's doing right now because, you know, he's letting a lot of people down with all the shit that's going on.

Starting point is 00:58:07 And I'm like, damn, looking at it as a fan, it just, it just sucks to see this shit because it's like, my nigga, like, Kanye is my favorite rapper, you know what I'm saying? So to see my favorite rapper just putting salt on this and just keep doing it and keep doing it. And it's like, damn, ain't nobody around him that's here to tell him like, bro, enough is enough. But that's the thing is that you know there's tons of people telling him that this is not a good idea. And it's not getting through to him because he's got enough people around him like the Candace Owens's of the world, et cetera, who are happy to, you know, do whatever. And, you know, I had actually like my biggest tweet like ever, I think this, or not ever, but like in a long fuck of time. This currently has five million impressions on Twitter, which I was pretty surprised by.

Starting point is 00:58:54 Damn, it beat took the carts to Russia. Yeah, it beat carts to Russia. What a month. I don't even think of myself like a Twitter user like this. Like I read Twitter all the time. I tweet a little bit, mostly for promotion. I'm not really out here because you notice that the thing that you do if you want to get big on Twitter is you go tribal. You say something controversial.

Starting point is 00:59:13 that aligns yourself with one side or the other. You say something super pro-trans or you say something super anti-trans. Both of those work. What totally doesn't work is you saying something moderate and reasonable and nuanced in the middle, you know? And so I try not to play that game too much. I try to like only tweet stuff politically

Starting point is 00:59:34 when I like really give a fuck enough to actually feel like I have something worth saying or whatever. And so this morning I tweeted this because I was just kind of taking a shit in the morning. It's, what was I say, 8.30 a.m. So this is like actually immediately before I start my workout. So I was definitely taking a shit. A twit and shit.

Starting point is 00:59:51 Yeah, twit and shit. And I wrote Kanye spent 20 years building one of the biggest empires in music and fashion and threw it all the way because he wanted to repeat Candice Owens' talking points on TV. And that's the saddest thing of all this to me is you can't, when you look at Kanye West and his musical contributions, forget everything else. Just look at his musical contributions. He is. Immaculent. You have to compare him to Quincy Jones, to Phil Spector, to Sir George Martin, to Prince.

Starting point is 01:00:20 You can't compare him to any other hip-hop artists. People were talking about verses with Farrell and Kanye. And I'm the biggest Farrell fan ever, but that's a fucking laughable conversation. There's no verses between Kanye and anybody else. As a producer, as an artist, his catalog is the greatest, not just in hip-hop, but in modern music of the past two. and a half decades. Everything else pales in comparison. Just him in the culture in general is what he's done and the strides that he's, you know I'm saying, came to be now is like, it's amazing, but that's what you said, just to see

Starting point is 01:00:59 it all go down. Like, it seems like it's over fucking night. And I will say this though, I wish, and I see a lot of people saying that I wish they had this type of energy for people that you, they're anti-black. And they say racist things and anti-black. And they say racist things and anti- racism for all, you know what I'm saying? But I feel like there is a lot of that. No, but hold on, hold on. You can say shit about black people and you ain't about to lose. You're not about this dude, Donald Sterling or whatever.

Starting point is 01:01:24 Didn't he lose this whole basketball team? Yes. Yeah, but, yeah, it's not, it's not. But I feel like that's kind of like the status quo right now. If you're a famous person and you're causing anything racist, you're damn near going to lose all your opportunities the same way Kanye. Not to this degree, though. And, okay, but this is also different, though, because it's, it's one thing to,

Starting point is 01:01:43 to be like a public figure who's caught saying the N word one time on camera, it's another thing to go on camera and publicly commit yourself to this anti-Jewish ideology. And I'm not saying that it's cool for white people said that NWR in private or whatever, but I do think that this is perceived very differently than even something

Starting point is 01:02:01 like that fucking Donald Sterling thing. Okay, but be, and that's a really solid point. But beyond that, Eminem had a tape where he was calling, said the N-word with a hard are several times 20 years ago. Correct. Talking about black women

Starting point is 01:02:19 in a very derogatory manner as disrespectful as possible, perpetuating all kinds of stereotypes. If that tape came out now because when it came, it was a much different society when that came to fruition and he received little to no backlash from it. Well, I mean, the source did like

Starting point is 01:02:37 dedicate entire issues. But he's not going to lose his banking town. He's not going to get a rock and a lot of shit. very relevant at the time. It was like, this is after only a couple years into the sort of double Excel takeover. The source was still here. The source was the big. It was in every Barnes & Noble and grocery store in America.

Starting point is 01:02:53 It was a hip-hop Bible. But keep in mind, why was the source pushing that narrative so aggressively? Because Benzino hated Eminem, for sure. And a lot of people saw through that. And I think that that's a big part of why it wasn't as cataclysmic to his career as it could have been. Because A, still at the end of the day, when you get canceled, a lot of it has to do. who stands by you and Eminem had almost no important people in the rap game really like fully turned their back on him and he has you know Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. 10 cent in his corner and it was so obvious

Starting point is 01:03:24 to people that was so transparent that this was a Benzino hit job. Yes, the tapes were real, but the messenger matters a lot. You know, if Benzino really had been calculating when he put those tapes out there into the world, he might have handed them to a journalist from a more reputable publication because I think if it was a pitchfork article or a New York Times article or some shit that exposed them to them saying that stuff it might have been perceived differently let's be real mill Gibson said hope his wife get raped by a pack of niggers but he loses bank account for saying some shit but let's be real that was a drunken tirade that yes it's disgusting and he said terrible things but people perceive it one way when it comes off like a drunken fucking tirade when

Starting point is 01:04:06 Kanye goes on all these podcasts over and over and sort of like affirms his beliefs on these things But you can also say Kanye is diagnosed as bipolar and he's not taking his medicine. And they're letting him go on publications and say all type of things. That's what I'm saying is I think that that probably is his out if he's going to be basically like accepted by corporations at some point. But in order for that to happen, he's going to have to say, hey, guys, sorry, I've been having a bipolar meltdown for the past couple of years. Please forgive me. I'm going to change my life. Here's how I'm going to dedicate myself to progressive causes.

Starting point is 01:04:38 No sign of him doing that at this point. If he becomes an outspoken advocate for mental health, that is literally his escape hatch from this entire thing. And you got to give him credit because most people, Nick Cannon, I mean, he tried to stand on his shit and he was having meetings with rabbis 48 hours later. He took the shows. Let's be real. Like Nick Cannon saw what was happening to him and he made a strategic decision to fall back. And I believe that he probably was exposed to information that kind of made him realize that some of the information that he was reiterating, was maybe not the best information.

Starting point is 01:05:12 And I'm not saying that he was totally full of shit when he apologized. But Nick Cannon fell back and is still realistically in the process of restructuring his career right now because he had some spicy shit to say about Jews. Kanye is a way bigger star than Nick Cannon. He said way crazier shit

Starting point is 01:05:29 and he said it way more times. And when you're saying it multiple times over the period of multiple weeks and months, people are just going to perceive that way different than Mel Gibson doing the N-Whor. rant, which it's super fucked up, but it's also like there hasn't really been anything else in Mel Gibson's life story that makes us think that he's a racist, right?

Starting point is 01:05:48 That nigga had like 11 fucking voicemails, and I listen to him all. Not just that, though. Mel Gibson is a... You make me smoke. You ruin my day. I'm not trying to minimize it because I don't know what else Mel Gibson does. That thing at one point was really breathing just... He's a raging anti-Semite.

Starting point is 01:06:09 literally produced the Passion of the Christ, which was essentially a visual hit piece on Jewish people. I haven't seen that. Should I watch that? The passion is right? Josh, Josh, you feel me on this? My granny made me... You fuck with it? My grandma made me watch that. Josh hates it. Josh was a Jew, though. He hates it.

Starting point is 01:06:25 When it came out, my granny made me watch that, and I was like, oh, my God. Look, and that's white Jesus in all his glory. That's right. And this is my thing, is that Kanye is spreading terrible anti-Semitic ideas to a fuckload of people who realistically have never heard this shit before. And in response to that tweet that I put up today, I saw a lot of people who seem like normal fucking black people who feel empowered to some extent by the shit that Kanye said. And the fact that he's being canceled, like this is a self-fulfilling prophecy to people like them that like, oh, look, he was right about everything. And it's like he's introduced a lot of evil

Starting point is 01:07:05 into the lives and into the minds of a lot of fucking people. And in my opinion, there's blood on his hands. And when I see that fucking white power group doing that demonstration in the valley saying Kanye is right about Jewish people, I mean, look at how he's fucking feeding into and empowering these people. Well, and, I mean, nobody even in the KKK ever lost a fucking bank account. And that's... They probably did.

Starting point is 01:07:25 I want to be honest with you. I don't know. I'm just saying like... If the banks are aware of it, I'm pretty sure that kind of... Because that shit happens all the time. You're acting like these white power sites, like the daily storm. They're all. are like blacklisted from the internet.

Starting point is 01:07:36 They have to exist. Nick Ford's has doesn't have a bank account. Exactly. Yeah. Here's the thing. Like a lot of what Kanye said, if he had just contextualized differently, would have hit and resonated. And nobody would have given a fuck if he did the drink champs interview

Starting point is 01:07:53 and he was talking about the New World Order and the globalists, which we all know is basically code that all these people use for Jews. But instead he actually said Jews, which props for him for actually saying what he fucking meant. But that's the reason why he's in trouble right now. He didn't even say Zionist. He said Jews.

Starting point is 01:08:09 And here's the thing, though. Are Jews very industrious people that happen to literally run the fashion industry, the music industry, the banking industry? Okay, Nick Fuentes. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. I need that Photoshop. Here's the thing.

Starting point is 01:08:28 Yeah, I'm Nick Fuentes if he actually got some pussy in his life. Well, he don't want it. Yeah. He said he loves Asian girls, but he got it. to marry a white girl. I feel bad for this motherfucker. Yeah, no. He'll know what he missing out on it? It's a slippery slope to fucking jerking off to tranny porn for

Starting point is 01:08:43 Nick Fuentes. I'll cop Nick Fuentes an Asian hooker any day of the week. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. Fuent talk. Fuentes all. There's a Photoshop waiting to happen. Wow. Okay.

Starting point is 01:08:59 All that is true, however, what Kanye fucked up on is trying to imply that they have this nefarious intention and have this agenda of supremacy and suppressing in particular black voices, but anyone that goes against them as a voice of dissension, which is clearly, I mean, that's a very dangerous line of rhetoric, which is, which Jewish people have frankly seen before several times over the years.

Starting point is 01:09:28 But he would have a good argument there if he was being canceled by the Jewish community for anything other than spreading straight up Jew hate on, you know, massive podcasts. Like, he really is doing something that I feel like the vast majority of the civilized world agrees is fucked up. I mean, look at, look at the Pierce Morgan. He literally said, you know, you're being racist? He's like, yeah.

Starting point is 01:09:51 Yeah, yeah. He's like, look at how Adidas can't cancel me for being anti-Semitic. Like, he's wearing it. He's, like, proudly saying it. Even though that he's losing all this stuff right now, You can't, and Dave Chappelle show people this. Like, you can't cancel Dave Chappelle. You can't cancel Kanye West because there's going to be people that are still going to rock with him no matter what.

Starting point is 01:10:14 He's becoming the black Trump, essentially. But nobody is denying that Kanye West could make tens of millions of dollars a year. You know, it's like, no matter what happens, I believe that he's going to be able to release music, put clothes out. We've seen tons of people, comedians, whatever, they get canceled and they're still able to do shit. The problem is that Kanye at this point is in a different box than like a Lewis C.K. Louis C.K. can still perform at these fucking massive arenas. I don't think those arenas are going to book Kanye West at this point in time. It's going to be like you're booking a fucking David Duke rally.

Starting point is 01:10:46 And it's not, and it's going to take a while for him to get past that. And it's not like there's no venues, but he's going to be blacklisted from a lot of fucking venues at this point. He lost his agency, CAA. Yeah, but most of the big venues are owned by A.E.G. Right, which is owned by a Jewish person. There you go. But even if it wasn't owned by a Jewish person, there would be so much pressure. You think that the amount of pressure that you feel when you stayed an anti-trans position is a lot.

Starting point is 01:11:17 Imagine being the guy who owns these fucking venues or the corporate higher-ups and all, like a gigantic percentage of the people that you talk to in your industry are people who feel directly threatened by Kanye. comments. Think about the societal pressure that you're going to feel to not fuck with this dude. It's kind of take a long fucking time before that wears off unless he sort of just abort's mission, which again,

Starting point is 01:11:42 does anybody seriously see that happening? Is he still banned from Instagram and Twitter? He still has an Instagram account. Does he still have a Twitter? I don't know if he still has access to it or not, but I know as of today because I was showing somebody the

Starting point is 01:11:58 good to hear from you, bitch, yesterday, which which is still the best quote of the year. The thing about Kanye and this line of rhetoric that he's spewing right now, it's what really made him start talking this shit? It was around the time

Starting point is 01:12:16 he got deplatformed by Zuckerberg. And then all of a sudden, it's very similar to Hitler feeling threatened by or Hitler feeling like the Jews in his art class got more pussy and attention than him. And then he started

Starting point is 01:12:30 to like planted the seeds for his anti-Semitism and then all of a sudden. But this is the thing is that he's personalizing it. But there's an attempt by a lot of people to act like, oh, Kanye is just being canceled by the Jewish monopoly on our culture or whatever the fuck it is. It's like real regular people are being heard by this shit too. Like I didn't even get a chance to watch it yet, but I saw that Casey Nystatt's clickbait on his new vlog or the theme of his new vlog is basically just him talking about how much.

Starting point is 01:13:00 she loved Kanye West and how hurt, which I believe Casey's Jewish. I can't remember. But either way, it's like really, really like hurt, like on an individual level. I think that like a lot of fucking Jewish people would share that opinion. And it's like, there's like a real effort

Starting point is 01:13:16 to act like that doesn't matter. And like somehow like these people, because a lot of them have money are in a powerful position. It's like not atypical of every Jewish person's existence. I'm sure the stereotype. Jonah Hill's got to be pissed. Jonah Hill is at the,

Starting point is 01:13:30 the Santa Monica stairs doing cardio right now, mad as fuck. Because I met Jonah Hill there doing cardio. I don't know if that's actually something I should be sharing, but that was pretty tight. It's not like it's an AA meeting. He like showed me his phone and he's like, well, like 90% of the time that I'm here, I'm listening to your podcast.

Starting point is 01:13:46 Jonah Hill. I'm like, what the fuck? That's far. I didn't even ask him for an interview. I probably should have gone for it. Yeah, you should have. I used to sell him weed. Wow. Yeah, because he's a big sig pig. Back when his name was still filled, Steve. Love his movie.

Starting point is 01:14:02 The mid-90s, that was far? That actually was a great movie, yeah. He's dope. But, yeah, no, absolutely. It's a shame, but at the same time, the, like you said, the scariest part of the whole thing is him being de-platformed at this point and silenced validates his argument in the eyes

Starting point is 01:14:21 of all the people that are going to blindly follow him. Right. But I do wish there is the same energy when people were doing this to black folks as well. Can we talk about how annoying the fucking conversation with T.R. Today was the first day that you really, like, saw it for what it was. I usually, like, purposely like to go against you with T.Rill. But today I was like, I got a side with Adam today.

Starting point is 01:14:45 He don't mean half the shit he says. He's just trying to. Yes, he does mean half the she says. T. T.R. had a tweet where he said something nonsensical about how Kanye, how Adidas is worth $13 or $20 billion, and Kanye is worth $11 billion. Which is not true. Which is ridiculous. He was worth like a billion or two before all this.

Starting point is 01:15:03 And Forbes right now has him listed at 400 million. I don't know where all this will settle. But his wealth is definitely taking a fucking dive. And either way, it's just not worth $11 million. Either way, or $11 billion. But either way, we bring this up in the group chat. And it's like there's a real T-REL thing. It's a tick, I guess, if you will, where if a famous black man gets in trouble for something.

Starting point is 01:15:24 Like he did it with the Will Smith thing, too, is that he will just, like, refuse to have any conversation besides arguing that they're fine. They're not really canceled. None of this is real. Kanye can still make money. And it's just like, what are you talking about? Obviously, we all know that he can still make money. That's not the thing that we're talking about. We're talking about if his career is going to be massively damaged by this. I just think he just like to troll you. You seriously think that, though? He was doing it to you, too. Today, well, today we had a back and forth, but I think like he gets off on just arguing with everybody. If he wants to really be like great at talking on camera,

Starting point is 01:16:06 he should avoid falling back on this like crutch that he kind of leans on where he like sort of refuses to have real conversations. And like if he feels like he's being proven wrong on anything, he just either pivots to like humor or just like saying he doesn't care. And it's like that this should be about figuring out what's true and what's good and what's real. I feel like he's just a fire starter in general. He likes to just stir shit up.

Starting point is 01:16:31 You love shooting him, bail. Like, he's the one that, I mean, he stirred up the, so much of the different office funk from the almighty shit. He stirred up. I saw you and Josh talking about the fact that he basically is like the reason for all the office beef or not, not really like office beef because what's weird that people don't realize is that if, you know,

Starting point is 01:16:52 you come to the no-jumber office, there's like no sign of any ten. between anybody ever. All the employees get along totally fine. There's almost never any issues. They kick it outside of here. And even the hosts, it's like, do we have like little confrontations and stuff? Yeah, but it's really not like that crazy.

Starting point is 01:17:11 I would say that I wouldn't say that he purposely stir stuff up. I think like he's the one that calls out the obvious is that people won't talk about. So if I got a problem with Josh, he'll get on here and be like, oh yeah, you don't like Josh. and then it opens up the conversation and then everybody. So he calls out the bullshit a lot of time. But you don't think he does it because he derives some kind of pleasure out of seeing everybody uncomfortable?

Starting point is 01:17:35 Listen, I call the homie grimy all the time. 100%. I don't think that he's stirring, by the way. Huh? You're describing pot stirring, which is exactly what he is. No, I just say, I think he likes to just call this shit out. And instead of, like, I don't think that he's at home like, today I'm going to try to start beef with lush and house phone. But I think he's trying to.

Starting point is 01:17:55 do this. He calls out a lot of stuff that's not even real stuff though, like just for the purpose of like stirring an imaginary pot to create something, which you know, just leave me out of it. He's definitely going to dish you tomorrow. But the whole thing is that he just kind of has like a disregard for the truth

Starting point is 01:18:11 in a lot of the arguments that we end up having where it's like he'll blatantly be proven wrong on something and just refuse to seed any ground and he'll just dig himself a hole where he just seems more and more wrong. to the point where like nobody even wants to have the argument anymore.

Starting point is 01:18:28 But then he'll succeed eventually and be like, you got me there. But this is the thing. If you want to have a dumb conversation like that on the podcast for content, that's kind of one thing. Like somebody's taking the devil's advocate's side is one thing on the podcast. But in the group chat, it kind of like prevents the conversation from reaching interesting points when like the basic facts are being called into question. Like the Will Smith thing or like this thing where.

Starting point is 01:18:55 It's so obvious that everybody can tell what happened. Everybody can tell that this is bad. That's not something we should really have to talk about. But instead we all end up talking about that, instead of digging deeper into it and talking about something with more substance. Now, would this be a bad time to mention that since Adidas dropped Kanye, Adidas stock has significantly dropped as well?

Starting point is 01:19:19 Well, they have a lot less popular. We knew that was going to happen. Did we? Did we? Yeah. Their statement, was very aggressive in like corporate talk in the sense when they said that those are all their designs and they're going to be the ones who sell them they're going to be the ones who do

Starting point is 01:19:34 are able to push these colorways etc that's a real fuck you to Kanye of like we're going to continue to make as much money as we want on your shoes off this stuff their stock price dropping was inevitable they 100% knew that was going to happen because it's just a lot of their really popular shit they're not going to be able to sell anymore or at least there's doubt about if they're going to be able to continue to sell it, you know? But, I mean, Adidas is going to be fine in the long run. Like, they'll be all right. I've had no interest in anything Adidas related for several years other than Easy, personally.

Starting point is 01:20:05 You did the tracksuits. Yeah, yeah, they're cool and all, but, like, I just haven't really. I like to look like a British hooligan from time to time. So I'll go through a track suit phase. Throw on a trackie. Every once in a while you throw the track suit all. You out here buying like a $700 Palm Angels one or something? No.

Starting point is 01:20:22 I mean, I mean. They have like the Gucci collab that I thought was cool, the Ditas one. That's something that I would buy, but like, I don't see myself spinning that on that one. Man, I had a fire Valora Dita suit back in the day. I bet you did. Wasn't you a roadie for run DMC? Yeah. This is bad?

Starting point is 01:20:40 No. Oh, how about I say? That's an old joke. Yeah. He almost got me. Should we talk about the lush N-word thing? Jesus Christ. We've already discussed it.

Starting point is 01:20:54 Gibson? Oh, we didn't do it on here? We could absolutely just go. It was the week that you were gone. Lesterling? No, it ain't no hard R. Have I, have I had... You were saying it on some cool shit. Have I had the N word in my vernacular

Starting point is 01:21:09 with the A at the end of synonym for brother? Like, yes, absolutely. He did too. Well, but no, no. I said it quoting a song. It's like South Park. You ever seen... That's different than saying it yourself. That's that nigger guy.

Starting point is 01:21:24 That's y'all too. Kramer 1 and Kramer 2. No, it's very different considering that the majority of my friends are black, black and Latino. So, like, I'm around my homies. I don't know. And I know it's different in Hashbrown Town. You feel me? But I hate this.

Starting point is 01:21:41 They're only being black in Haskerown town is a tree. Ad, tell me if I'm wrong. I don't like the historical revisionism where people act like the N-word conversation was always, always as settled as it is now. And when I say that, I'm just saying that I know, like, okay, somebody like Paul Wall, I remember hearing Paul Wall talk about how before he was famous, he was a heavy end word user. You got like all black friends.

Starting point is 01:22:08 He's saying it with the A at the end. You know, that was just normal to him. Paul Wall's the best white rapper of all time. Let's be real. At that point in Texas, apparently, that was normal. Him and Mac Miller. You know, and I'm just saying that like when I moved to New York City, this is not really normal where I was from when I'm in New York City in 2003, every

Starting point is 01:22:26 motherfucking white kid, period. Didn't matter if they were rich-ass kid from Long Island, whatever. You know, because we're hanging out with mad black people, and I guess that probably made it them feel like it was cool or something. Watch the movie kids. Oh, my God. Yes, exactly. Bro, play any online game, and you're going to hear the youngest white guy call you the

Starting point is 01:22:46 hard-d-but that's a different uses. That's hard R. But let's be real. You're not making a distinction here between the, No, no, no. But what I'm, it's just, you're making me look awful. I'm not trying to do that last year. What I was going to say, let me, let me, let me, let me clean it up.

Starting point is 01:23:02 What I was going to say is, yes, I'm pretty sure. Deep platform lunch, no, no, no. I'm pretty sure everybody uses that word or has used that word in some context. My problem is when you're on a public platform and, you know what you're giving out to the world, that's a different story. And let me tell you why I... So you think it's cool if I say it behind the seats. You want to say behind the scenes whether I know it or not. Why the fuck?

Starting point is 01:23:27 Why would you think I have any desire to say it? My nigga, let's be real. You at home at one point heard a song and you was walking around with your little trainer. Nah. No, Adam says it to me when it's just the two of us all the time. I believe it. Fake news. No, I'm just playing.

Starting point is 01:23:41 He's T-reling. I'm pretty sure. You said anywhere before, new guy? You're a goddamn lot. Hold on, hold on. Just... Bro, he's got his glasses on his hat. He's not saying the N word.

Starting point is 01:23:54 Yeah. He said the N word before. Let's be from. No, and I fuck with you heavy, but I would have, if I did hazard a guess, I would peg you as a hard R user. Oh, my God. He's not laughing. I'm just playing. Damn, what I said?

Starting point is 01:24:12 That's crazy. I'm not laughing. I'm just playing. No. In the context of wrapping along to a. song where you're like mumbling half the fucking lyrics anyway has do you sometimes maybe stumble when you're alone sure unless you're on mega high alert when i'm around even a single black person when i'm singing along to a song yes you're pretty great because the news it is crazy because

Starting point is 01:24:36 all the news with the inwards on it adam has to read it he won't have me read it i've done the news like what about no the best was the white girl rapping the kendrick song on stage he brought her on stage. He just treated her. He completely treated her. He did that so she would see how she played it off. But if you go to any concert, most of the concerts, there are not African-American people. Then you got somebody like, little house phone telling the fucking crowd to say the ER. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, did you see that footage of Roddy Rich performing in England? This little Roddy Rich, no, it's in Australia, I think. Roddy Rich is performing in Australia, the song The Box. And the whole crowd, the whole all-white.

Starting point is 01:25:19 crowd. She sucked it. So I did not almost do it. Now, let me explain to you. Almost went back to his old ways. Let me explain to you why. Like my partners don't have a problem with me saying it for the most part. Because you're the type of person who also says partners. I would say partners.

Starting point is 01:25:39 But lush, like. The word has multiple R's in it. Yeah, hard R. A. There's a difference. But unless you told me that you weren't black, I would kind of think that like, don't take this the wrong way. Yeah. Like, the way you look could go either race.

Starting point is 01:25:58 It's the nicest thing anyone's ever said. You think he's like a DJ drama? I don't, like, I just like, if Lush was saying it and I seen him around, like, I don't think that I would look at him and be like, okay, I would think that he has something, bro over there, like, nah. Would you be surprised if you saw a picture of Lush when he was younger and he was black? I just his skin I got his skin got his

Starting point is 01:26:20 I had the semi-sosa surgery look here's here's the here's the thing I think there's a lot of meme potential there guys I'm crying that's a good sign

Starting point is 01:26:32 Kendrick new album he has a line up in there about lush he said Lush can say the Y word No he said the end of it he said

Starting point is 01:26:38 he said Faggoo that's Gendrick's flow He said that he said Fagin Faggagg we can say it together, but only if you let a white girl say niggins. And that's how he ends it. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:26:51 Right. And then he wins a Grammy for that. Amazing. Let the white girl say. I love Kendricky. Amazing. Oh, what about the T. Grizzly bar? He said, um, he said, great granddaddy was a slave.

Starting point is 01:27:03 I admit it, but the cops so much dope, but let my white boy say. And I was like, yo. What about the great twisty P? I shoot niggily. I shoot. You're fun. What's up with him right now? We need a status update on Twisty P, dog.

Starting point is 01:27:21 Hold on, though, but let me, I need to clean this up. Remember when he got tacked out? Okay, go ahead. I just need to. I would have never bought it up. And I don't care because I've stood on this before. Yeah, David Russell will have a field day. The reason why.

Starting point is 01:27:36 When I pop up. It's not a pop-up with a chopper. Bing, ding, ding, ding, ding. The reason why. What's that? Is that the beat? The reason why it's not a common part of my lexicon anymore. One, you're white.

Starting point is 01:27:53 40 years old. It just like, it kind of hits a little bit different. Two, when I don't want to be the source of pain for older black folks, like my homies parents and shit and just even random black people in public if they overhear me saying it. And then it brings them, it triggers memories of them hearing that. word from white people in a very different context. But there's a way better reason not to say it, which is just that you're white.

Starting point is 01:28:20 Sure, but like... I'm just saying, like, yeah, of course it would be offensive if somebody's grandparents heard me say the N-word, but just in general, I probably should say that. I don't want to offend anybody with it. And I'm like, and I'm an eloquent enough person is where I don't need to lean on any word in particular. Right.

Starting point is 01:28:37 But, like, at the end of the day, is it something that I've said amongst friends and things like that on a common, basis, yeah. You grew up a white battle rapper in the 90s. Right. Hanging around a lot of. You had a lot of spicy influences. In them

Starting point is 01:28:54 sections of Los Angeles and the world at large. You were a white John style, white guy. Yeah, I'll flux for white John heavy. You know I'm the white girl. Nobody's giving white John a hard time about saying it. I don't know if they does he even say it anymore?

Starting point is 01:29:11 If he had said it on his no jumper interview, he probably would be getting shit for it. Like, that's game bank politics, which is a whole other conversation. That's true. Right. As soon as you claim a gang, you can get away with a lot of weird stuff. If your homies respect you and they feel like you want to them, then they don't care if you say it. Right.

Starting point is 01:29:27 I want to talk about the new podcast war is brewing between my boy, Joe Budden, and my other boys. Roy and Mao. Pows. Rory and Mal. Who I've never actually meant in real life. Vruary. Rory and Millie Mall. Rory has an act-calls him.

Starting point is 01:29:46 I feel like those nicknames never really stuck. They never really went outside of the Twitch chat. But anyway, so basically, Maul and Joe have been going at it, and Maul's like most recent little tirade against Joe, which got cut up into a nice little nifty TikTok real short. Nifty on 50s? That I saw on Twitter was basically Maul saying

Starting point is 01:30:12 that it pains Joe What was the phrasing you used? I wrote it down just so I wouldn't forget. He said, Maul said it pains Joe Budden that every time he pays for pussy that he knows that Maul is responsible for a nice chunk of the money

Starting point is 01:30:32 that he's spending right there. This is my problem. He said the dollar bills he throws in the air should have my face on it. Listen, is what he said. I don't believe that Joe Button would ever pay for pussy. Not my Joe Bunn.

Starting point is 01:30:42 Look at the collection of bitches that Joe Buddy, his Pokemon cards are immaculate. Right. Like, come on, bro. Gloria Veles to hear, like that fool. But in order to get there as a man, you still got to pay for a lot of pussy along the way, right? For sure. Yeah, I mean, I don't hold that again. I mean, everybody pays in some type of way.

Starting point is 01:31:03 Right. I don't think that he's literally go getting escorts. You know what I mean? Joe Budden's been knocking him down on his own volition and by being a dude that bitch is find attractive for many, many moons now. In this house, we don't look down on men who pay for pussy. We encourage it. You see what Kanye said.

Starting point is 01:31:21 Besides everything that's going on right now. What did he say? He said he buys bitches houses. Oh, yeah, right. Burghens and stuff like that. And he's embarrassing to that. Giving him like 500 bucks to fuck with a condom in the back of the strip club, I mean, that's a great.

Starting point is 01:31:35 Seems pretty modest. And then he has a song about not fucking with gold diggers. And this is a great lesson for him to bestow about fiscal responsibility to the younger generation that looks up to him. Thanks, Ye. When I was leaving the Joe Bunnan podcast after our little feud, it was all smiles afterwards just so people know what the feel was, Joe Button was going to the strip club.

Starting point is 01:31:58 So that part of his life is still very much alive and well, and it's making me wonder, like, am I fucking up? Am I missing out on something because this is something that I never did? A lot of the main, I mean, let's be real. A lot of the, He seems absolutely miserable. He had a whole entire mixtape series called Mood Music.

Starting point is 01:32:17 It was like 20 years ago. No, but he's still like he's a very brooding emotional. You talk about shit from 20 years ago like it was yesterday, which is why I know you're just as old as me. But it doesn't matter. It's not about the time period. But I think he goes to the strip club

Starting point is 01:32:31 because that's one of the few things he finds joy in. Some niggis is like the strip club. I know guys who love the strip club. That's the thing. The thing that I get out of sitting on the couch and watching a three-hour Trapplor Ross documentary, to me honestly seems like what Joe Bunning probably gets from sitting in the strip club,

Starting point is 01:32:51 throwing a couple G's or whatever. I gotta go to the strip club with him because I want to see what his style is because I never got into a good strip club rhythm. You know, like I would always have homies who went to the strip club, so I would like tag along with them and see how they were playing the game

Starting point is 01:33:06 and how much money they spent and what they were doing. I never ever really went to the strip club with no, like, bawling-ass people besides going to. 11 with a little pump one time. I could break it down for you. There's a lot of different levels to this. I want to know what Joe Button is doing in there.

Starting point is 01:33:19 Is he getting lap dances? Because I just imagine him like sitting the girls down and just kind of interrogating them and like pressing them to like admit that they've like got a lot of issues going on. So he's like sharp on the podcast. Yes. Yeah, yeah. I imagine him just kind of like psychoanalyzing the chicks in the booth. And I want to know if that's real or not.

Starting point is 01:33:40 There's a lot of women who like going to. to the strip club. They like getting lab dances from the strippers. They like giving money to the strippers too. They enjoy that shit. And then, too, for artists, it's smart for artists to go to the strip club and spend the money because you get a rapport with that. But he's not an artist anymore. He's a podcast. I'm just

Starting point is 01:33:56 talking about in general. And what strip clubs does he go to? Because I feel like there are strip clubs that are like network strip clubs. And then there are strip clubs that are like perv strip clubs. He's going to Starvitz probably. That's like the top of the top. Some of the best looking women in any of these strip clubs are. If I had to guess, Joe Budden,

Starting point is 01:34:12 just appreciates the ambiance. And he's just there chilling like it's a regular, like, I'd rather go to the strip club than the club and be with a bunch of bottle service lames. And see, some people, some people feel that way. Me personally, I like being in the club, but I know people who'd be like, I'd rather go to the strip club. You like being in the club in 2022, where everyone's on there.

Starting point is 01:34:31 That's just lame now. I don't even go to the club no more. I don't even have time to go out like I used to. That's just, it's not like it was back in the day. There's a thousand, I say, 2015. 15, 16 was like peak club. Great error for the club. But even now, like, there's some cool shit that's not the club.

Starting point is 01:34:48 Like, the homie, the homie, um, Jermaine, he'd do a bowling event on Mondays. That's like the new little hot spot. My thing is I want to go to bed early. And I know the strip club is not really a thing at like 10 a.m. When I would be comfortable going. Right. Then it was ready, though. The thing is this, though, you talk about Joe Budden, is he there for networking?

Starting point is 01:35:06 What? So he can have some bitches twerk to the desert storm mixtape? Like, what the fuck? But I don't feel like he would ever acknowledge that he's going there for network. No, I think he's just going there for the ambiance. For the type of women that he's had in his life. Basking in the ambiance, basking in the ambiance. The type of women he's had in his life is it's apparent that he likes fucking women.

Starting point is 01:35:27 He likes bitches. So he goes. He likes to be around women. Most of the strip clubs got great ass wings and food. You sit there. You see some tities in the ass? You throw your money? You think they let them smoke a cigs in there?

Starting point is 01:35:39 Yeah. It's a good excuse to go outside, really. I feel like he's not, yeah, he probably does like doing that, yeah. But like you said, Tutsies in Fort Lauderdale, that's literally paradise. Some of the best things, they get cracking over there. It get cracking over there. The thing that I was trying to say before we got sidetrack talking about what Joe Budden is like in a strip club, pause, is the fact that... Do you think that when Joe Button is throwing money in the club or when he's spending money on pussy or whatever he might be doing with his money, do you think that he's feeling bad or that it's painting him?

Starting point is 01:36:10 Like where would the pain be coming from? Like that he's being pained because of the fact that Moll helped him essentially make a lot of that money? I don't think Joe Biden gives a fuck. I don't think. Look, I don't think he give a fuck. Do you think that Leor Cohen is pained by the fact that there's all these fucking rappers, hundreds and thousands of rappers throughout the years that he's fucking worked with that no longer have anything to do with them? No, he doesn't give a fuck.

Starting point is 01:36:34 He's billions of dollars. That's literally like the equivalent of a pimp being mad that a hoe is working for somebody else. now. And I don't want to call Mala ho. No, no. That's a spicy little take. I was talking about the rappers and Leo Cohen. I know, but I'm just saying. But at the end of the day, when I see

Starting point is 01:36:53 Bud and Rory going at each other, it just makes me sad because as much as I enjoy their pods individually, when they were all together I felt like that was the best dynamic they ever had. I felt like they fed off each other really well, and I miss I would be more inclined to listen to

Starting point is 01:37:13 and just absorb that content than I would any of the shit they got going on now. Although it's still dope, and I like the other dudes that button has on. I can't really, like, tell you much about them. Like, their personalities don't really jump out as me as much. They don't like YouTube clips. I was my guy, I see.

Starting point is 01:37:31 Yeah, yeah. They do like drill rap, though. Yeah. And Griselda. But boom, boom, boom. I was just watching Armani season. and Kodak Black. Yo, she's so fucking bad, bro.

Starting point is 01:37:44 Yeah. Oh, my God, is she hot? I sent the link to my girl, and I said, I want you to dress up like this for a scene with the fucking cowboy hat and the pasties. I like that she's like butt naked in front of Kodak. He's really looking at her, like. I hope so. He's looking at her. Yo, that's what I like about Kodak.

Starting point is 01:38:07 Little baby or young boy, they would never do a song with a female. rapper and give him that look. Like he's staring into her soul. Now's a look. Kodak don't give a fuck. Kodak don't give a fuck. He also off them beans too. So it's like it's intensifying the moment

Starting point is 01:38:22 significantly. He definitely had the eye of the bean holder. His whole dance, the Kodak bop is the most ecstasy induced dance I've ever seen. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, Kodak, like, uh. Florida boys, they'd be off the shits. Damn, I can't snitch. I have a good story,

Starting point is 01:38:37 but, well, not like a good story. Eh, fuck it. Bus it. My man, 100K track. He told me that when he was Kodak's right-hand man and stuff, when he was in the sniper gang universe, that he was definitely partaking in the tomfoolery. Oh, I believe it.

Starting point is 01:38:56 And that he feels lucky that he made it. I mean, he's like, Kodak don't really hold back about that. I don't think it's something that he's. This is old news, but we should just talk about it because fuck it. But did you see that thing on Instagram a couple weeks ago that was like Adam 22 getting into a little conversation with a sniper gang producer no so basically like

Starting point is 01:39:16 I called out oh I called out it was after PNB died and there's this producer whose name I don't know how to say so I'm not even going to try but I guess he's associated with sniper gang whatever and he put up a post saying

Starting point is 01:39:32 the thing about Gazi and empire and how all the empire rappers die and they all have the they have the same ring with the story on it. So Empire that has signed 800 rappers over the last five, six years, however long it's been that, you know, the fact that like

Starting point is 01:39:48 seven of them have met their demise. Mo3XXX. Because Empire gave them a shot and because they believed in them and helped them in their careers, that Empire probably also, for some spooky reason, is involved in their death, which... They have an insurance policy

Starting point is 01:40:04 on them. It's so stupid. But so I commented on the post and said basically like clown opinion or like you know something along those lines and so the fucking dude this producer dude he comments and he's basically like we still remember when you got our pop-ups shut down we don't forget or he said we you got our pop-up shut down when you sucker punch somebody wait so he said that to me so he's riding for kiki the pop-up no bing bing bing bing i don't get it but uh but so he uh i don't think that one landed.

Starting point is 01:40:41 We liked it. I don't know. I didn't even notice that. If I said pop-up, I didn't even notice it. You said you got our pop-up shut down. Oh, okay. But anyway, so he said that,

Starting point is 01:40:52 which is a real story, and it was a fucking kind of crazy story that never made it to the No Jumper Airwaves, so I figure out, like, why not? I'll just fucking air it out. So I did, I went to this event,

Starting point is 01:41:04 and there's this dude at a store that I won't name. And, you know, so I'm at the event, I'm with like a couple of my guys and there's a dude who basically I had issues with because he had been hanging out in the back of the store at one point and I he was saying something that I perceived as being creepy to the girls that we're hanging out with and I basically told him get the fuck out of here you're being a fucking creepy weirdo or some shit like that so I said that to

Starting point is 01:41:32 him he gets offended he leaves whatever and then I don't see him for a period of like weeks or a month or months I don't know and so then I see him at the store that he's working he's working at the store and so I'm friends with the owner but I got issues with this fucking kid who works there and so when I get there he kind of like mutters something under his breath to me and I don't really like hear it 100% but I felt the vibe of like oh shit he got an issue with me but I didn't really hear him when he said the thing so I was like whatever did you remember him yeah 100% like because he was like he was friends with oh I think he was friends with Yuri and Yuri uh youri stopped fucking with him when this

Starting point is 01:42:08 happened right it Chuck shut out Yuri he's a He's a loyal soldier. This is pre-chuck. Is Chuck the white guy that said to inward that guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is different. But so, whatever, I'm trying to play it cool. I don't want to start a fucking scuffle with this dude or whatever.

Starting point is 01:42:23 But then I'm like walking through the fucking hallway or whatever. And for some reason, he's like standing there and he like chucks a beer can at my leg. Like an empty beer can. But I feel it hit my leg and I turn around and I see him. And this honestly, I think, was. the last fight that I ever got into like four or five years ago or something you say break yourself nigga yeah

Starting point is 01:42:46 so I ran up on him and direct quotes actually I started clobbering him I believe that there may have been a clobbery a guillotine choke applied at a certain point and this all happens in the span of like you know 10 seconds in the store 15 seconds yeah but we're like in this hallway too so it's like and nobody knew it was happening so nobody's

Starting point is 01:43:04 filming and it's like a tight space so it would have been like really hard to film in the first place there was like only a couple people that would even be able to film it realistically and it was so fast that nobody filmed it, whatever. But realistically it wasn't like a big crazy fight. It's like me and him just getting into it in this like one little isolated

Starting point is 01:43:22 situation. It doesn't like spill out all crazy. It doesn't like get super ridiculous, right? But it's at this, it's a pop-up. That's why there's mad people there. I forgot to mention this. But it's a pop-up for like some it was like some Benjamin Kicks thing. I don't know

Starting point is 01:43:38 exactly what it was, but it was like a shoe-dry. or something. There was like some shoe release or some shit like that. And it was like Kodak was getting paid, I guess, to pop up at this event, right? You popped up with the chopper. Right. Bing, bing. You know, we don't have to do that every time.

Starting point is 01:43:54 So, Kodak is getting paid to show up at this event, right? And so they just cancel the whole event. As soon as I get into the situation, like they just fucking cancel the whole fucking thing. Even though it's like nothing. Like, they tell the dude, like, just leave. Did he tap out or like how did it end the fight? They just somebody breaks it up whatever and then like

Starting point is 01:44:16 nobody really got fucked up that bad like I punched him in the face like once or twice and then it just gets broken up and that's it and it's like but you were putting mitts on him essentially and I put him in a guillotine choke at one point yes and so whatever I'm not it didn't go far enough for it to be like a super crazy like bloody fight you know it was like literally like 10 seconds

Starting point is 01:44:34 like a fight in a bar where it's crowded enough that it just gets broken up right away right so I thought it was pretty crazy that the event got shut down, to be totally honest, especially since, like, as soon as they told him to leave, the whole thing is diffused, it's over. It's nothing. But still, it's like the fucking dude who owns a store,

Starting point is 01:44:50 who is my homie, and it's his store, so he can do whatever the fuck he wants. But he just is like, no, whole events, shut down, it's canceled, whatever. And I never would have thought that anybody, like, held any sort of, like, hard feelings about this. Because, I mean, I've had conversations with Kodak. I'm pretty sure the issue is that he got paid,

Starting point is 01:45:09 he got paid and then the event didn't even happen. Still got his money. So like the person who was right to be mad about it, I'm pretty sure, is Benjamin Kicks, who I did notice unfollowed me a short time after that. Wait, but so this is five years ago, 2017, like you're popping from no jumper, but it's not like you hadn't really blown up, blown up at that point yet, right? I would say that. I'm pretty big already at that point.

Starting point is 01:45:34 2017, 2017, 2018, it's already like, you know, X and pump are already. like kind of in the rear view like it was pretty big at that point so it was definitely a thing but there was no video of it so it's not like it was ever posted anywhere there was nobody like talked about it online or anything like that you know josh was you there no i wasn't there i was at the store i saw the what happened afterwards what happened afterwards oh so essentially 22 speak on what happened afterwards what was just a little fight afterwards no nothing happened afterwards shut up so essentially i could have said so essentially I can fill you in a little bit, but it ain't on camera stuff.

Starting point is 01:46:14 Okay. But so this other dude who's one of the producers from sniper gang. I don't know who the fuck this dude is, but yeah, he apparently still has feelings about it, which is totally of interest to me because I've fully, like, had DM conversations with Kodak about going out there and hanging out and doing whatever. And I don't know if this is like his dude who's around him all the time or anything like that. But it is kind of crazy because it's like, realistically, if I was going to go out and film with Kodak, I wouldn't be pulling up without security or anything like that.

Starting point is 01:46:46 But, I mean, it could have been a situation where I could have maybe got lured into a fucking trap. Right. And they might make me change my name, like one of the island boys. You know, Kodak. Kodak did that to them, right? Kodiak Red. That's his name now because Kodak met him and basically said, like,

Starting point is 01:47:02 oh, your name Red 4X? Nah, you need a new name. I'm going to call you Kodiak. great because he calls himself Codiak and shit, right? Well, and the weirdest thing about that whole, like, trajectory. That's like me and you and saying,

Starting point is 01:47:13 your name's not Lush anymore. It's Lush 22. Right. Or just your name. No, it's more like your name is Adam Lush. Yeah. Or Luscious. All the above.

Starting point is 01:47:22 I would not know. But what was so weird about that is that Kodak started saying like, you're my twin. And he was telling Codiac Red, like, you're my twin. And he's like, I already have a twin.

Starting point is 01:47:34 This other guy. who looks like me and is also gay. I have a best friend. I don't think I can have two best friends, Kodak. But it's like, I love that the wedge between them that Kodak was driving by only fucking fucking with him. And you can tell like the other guy was just like, well, what about me, bro? That's my twin.

Starting point is 01:47:51 That gave me a lot of insight into what Kodak's brain is like, how he could beat these two fucking impressionable kids and make one of them change their name and like fuck with one of them more than the other one to sort of like put some stress on the relationship. He's just like this little. He's like an antagonistic little gremlin-ass motherfucker in there, just fucking with the island boys. I like that, though. That's cool. That's incredible.

Starting point is 01:48:12 I want to be more like that. Yeah, yeah. But that song's about Jackboy. Super Gremlin? When you listen to it. Oh? It's like, it's a diss song, which I didn't know until. We cut up in Superstar?

Starting point is 01:48:24 Yeah. I saw that fucking clip that academics did. Like a Pussy Little Bit. Academics interview Jackboy and got him to talk about it. And they said that that song was a diss about him. Yeah. Makes sense. Like a pussy little bitch.

Starting point is 01:48:35 Now when I listen to it, I'm rapping along to it. And it feels like the way that I feel when I'm rapping along to a King Vaughn song, where he's dissing all these like GDs that I actually totally fuck with. And I feel like, oh, God, I'm glad nobody's around when I'm rapping along to this. Say it. Saying in the inward? No. When I rap along to Super Gremlin, now I'm like, damn, I'm talking about Jackboy.

Starting point is 01:48:56 Totally makes a song different and kind of better. I like, I like, I like, a song feeling like an actual diss song and sort of like listening to the bars and thinking about who he's talking about makes it feel like it means so much more. Yeah, it's like when I be singing along to Mariah Carey, why you're so obsessed with me and like knowing that it's about Eminem.

Starting point is 01:49:17 Really? I didn't even thought about that. I remember that song. Wow. Why are you so obsessed with me? Scathing disc track. This is another question I want to ask. I didn't even watch the clip, so I got to just ask you what the clip's like.

Starting point is 01:49:29 You called into Milk Seventh Fo. Oh. And you whiled out on him because he said, you were a stripper? I didn't, I didn't wild out of him. I didn't see it yet. How gnarly did you get? No, I just had to, you know, I just had to speak my piece. He said, I ain't never been a stripper, cut.

Starting point is 01:49:45 No, I'm just saying, like, I just felt like from day one, I was, you know, and you know, I always like, you know, you would say shit about him. I would never speak on him. I've never said anything bad about him. And I just felt like he started trying to attack me. And then it's one thing to say, like, you know, oh, you ain't from where you from. and then to say they're a stripper. And, you know, he said that the reason he said that

Starting point is 01:50:08 was because of you made a joke about the right track. And I was like, naga, I told Adam about a male strip cook called the right track and he joked and said that I used to work there. That's such a lie. He knows that you didn't fucking work there. That was me publicly expressing my fantasy about the fact that I wish you were a stripper. Yeah, that's but that, but you know, when I pause,

Starting point is 01:50:29 can we say it there? It's like, this is, this is, you'll get, used to it. He just does this. He does this. No, but when I, but you know, when I, when I said that, he didn't, he didn't, he didn't argue, he didn't do anything crazy. He said, my bad. He said he'll take the video down and he shouldn't have did that. It's all up. But you see the pattern where it's like the same exact thing where he like showed up at the, at the office, wigan out, acting like he's some crazy as dude. And then as soon as you pull up outside, he's like, oh, I'm sorry, dude, I'll be tripping, I'll be making mistakes. I'm still new with this. It's like

Starting point is 01:51:00 the same exact thing. He goes out, he makes all these videos saying, And then you were a stripper. And then as soon as you say something about it to him, he's like, oh, I was confused. Yeah. I was thinking that Adam was being serious when he was trolling. I just think that everybody, we all get caught up in this fucking YouTube cloud war and all that. We all do that shit. And, you know, when he was saying that, if he honestly believed that he heard that and he said that, that's cool.

Starting point is 01:51:27 If he apologized for it, he said he wasn't going to, he was going to take it down, I ain't got no problem with him no more. You ain't going to hear me say nothing bad about the nigger. I ain't making no videos about the nigger. As far as I know, he's cool with me. I'm cool with him now. Now, the next question is, are you down? Yeah. Are you down to reconcile with him at any point?

Starting point is 01:51:47 And I think you should. Nah. This shit ain't, listen, Adam, this shit is not that serious when you really break down to it. And I get how he probably makes more videos about you than anybody ever. I get it. Occasionally I see a thorn. now. I don't click. I don't click.

Starting point is 01:52:05 I think with AD, you were probably the most upset because you felt like you had extended yourself for that dude and tried to be cool and been neutral in situations. And that was the only reason why, because I'm like, damn, like, I stayed out of it and I still got put in it. You stayed out of it when he was doing the most custer-ass shit imaginable when he fucking basically like completely lied and misrepresented what happened at the office and misrepresented the conversation that you and him had, and you pretty much like just totally gave him a pass on that and didn't really like get angry about the fact that he was totally misrepresenting

Starting point is 01:52:44 that encounter. Well, from day one, Smack has always spoke highly on him. Smack is my guy. And Smack is actually the one who put all that stuff together, because let's be real. He says some shit to T.Rail that to me was unforgivable. T. T.R.S. said some shit to him that I think was unforgivable. He says some shit.

Starting point is 01:53:02 says some shit. But it's the exact same shit as the thing with the king of content where he's coming out making videos about him, sending around paperwork doing everything under the fucking sun. And then as soon as T-Row brings it up to him, it's like, oh yeah, I ain't doing that anymore. I ain't making videos about him anymore. I ain't sending out of paperwork anymore. It's like, do you stand on anything? See, but like how I look at everything is like, listen. They also from the same section. He definitely got a good advocate in you. You're holding them down. No, it's not even about being no advocate. It's about at the end of the day, bro.

Starting point is 01:53:34 There's so many other battles that we can be fighting. And like, honestly, in my life right now, I don't have the time to be sitting there mad at nobody on YouTube and getting upset. And I let, I got too invested in the content that he was making about me to where I really got mad that was going, you know what I'm saying, turn to some other shit, you know what I'm saying? Potentially that I don't need to be doing those shit like that.

Starting point is 01:53:54 So if a man can sit there and tell me my bad and he means that, and it is what it is, then guess what? I respect that shit. Let's move on and keep it pushing. That don't mean that we got to be best friends. That don't mean that we got to hang or film content or do anything. He's not coming to the penis houses.

Starting point is 01:54:12 I feel like, like, you know, it's obvious that he doesn't understand who at the time, especially when he was kind of new to YouTube, didn't understand the nuances of the way, like, the interviews and all that shit work and was just kind of new to the whole world. I feel like if you did have a dialogue, with him he would probably stop all negativity and y'all could be on a I don't need to be friends with everybody no not plenty of friends no but that's what I'm saying you don't have to be friends but at least be to the point to where it's like all right this shit ain't that serious is just playing around where because even like right now

Starting point is 01:54:47 spoiler alert you feel me I'm about to have a conversation with Charleston white soon you know what I'm saying I don't know how this is going to go but I'm open to sitting there having the conversation and I just said I didn't say I was going to set the nigga up. He didn't call me all type of shit. We didn't went back and forth. But as men, if we could sit there and come to an understanding at the end of the day, I'm all for it. Like, this is the thing is if I were going to be on good terms with somebody, it would probably involve some passage of time in between them making a bunch of videos about me saying like the craziest shit imaginable about me, you know, for sure. Because I am not really that

Starting point is 01:55:23 vengeful of a person or vindictive of a person. I don't think you are. Like a lot of people saw me in the fucking New York City vlogs and there's like a YouTuber BMX dude who I was kicking it around and everything was cool and there was a fight video with me and this person back in the day on Melrose and to be honest like

Starting point is 01:55:41 when I saw this person after not seeing him for mad years I just shook their hand and I was just like hey how are you doing man like good to see you because what we beefed over back in the day was so in the moment it was such a stupid little like oh you're talking shit like whatever It was not about anything that serious.

Starting point is 01:55:59 So it was easy for me, like, five years later, seeing them to just be like, whatever, dude. Especially with all the success you've had, right? Yeah, especially. I can almost, I barely can remember what that shit was about, which is like, you know, the passage of time just kind of does that and just makes everything feel stupid. And it's like, oh, you're friends with my friends. I guess that means that, like, I don't need to fucking make a big deal about being around. Even like today, I've seen 22.

Starting point is 01:56:25 shout out to Sada baby sent you a tweet today and he said I don't want you to get a response back I just want to let you know that I apologize for what I said to you and you like it's all love I appreciate him saying that because that was like a kind of weird stalemate that we were in where it was like we had this whole little kerfuffle is that a word I don't know just Google kerfuffle but then you know and it's like he's standing on his perspective which is that basically we put something out there that we knew was going to get a negative response, which I guess

Starting point is 01:57:00 is fair. Kerfuffle, a commotion or fuss? Especially one caused by conflicting views? Fuck yeah. Sada baby deserves a word like kerfuffle. Anyway. Already, David Russell! See? He's too good.

Starting point is 01:57:21 What did I tell you? He is too good. Good. Okay, so we know it's not Adam. It's not Adam. Well, no, it's my intern. Those guys been kind of quiet over there. Because, you know, they're like, let's upload it.

Starting point is 01:57:36 Think about it. This is like what people always accuse, like, Candace Owens and all these fucking political YouTubers of doing, of like, basically being funded by, like, right-wing think tanks. Like, people are always saying, like, oh, Ben Shapiro gets all this money from all these groups to basically, like, fund him making content that challenges the left or, you know, whatever. So like maybe I could just start funding the David Russell experiment to like do sciop shit and like paint a picture of stuff. Back to side of baby. Side of baby I accept the fucking apology. I just put his whole fucking stuff on last. I fuck with you. It's like you know I never

Starting point is 01:58:10 had anything against you. It would be good to do a reunion. Maybe we could bust out the mushrooms again. But uh classic times. Yeah. So no but that's what I'm saying. I appreciate him saying that. No, but I'm saying like do you think that you and milk can get to a point. in any type of situation to where you're like, all right. Yeah, it was just involved like the passage of time or maybe him acknowledging that he was bugging in the first place, but I don't know if he feels like he wants to do that. But I mean, I'm clearly not the one antagonizing the situation.

Starting point is 01:58:40 Even in this conversation, I might have called attention to some things that he basically backpedaled on, but it's not like I have done any personal attacks in this, which I don't think would at all be the case in whatever video he's obviously going to make responding. to this at some point because his content's so insanely predictable. Just take 7.4 seconds to get your mind right. That is what I'm doing.

Starting point is 01:59:02 No, but on some real shit, though, like, you have to, like, it's so much other shit, like, time-wise. Curfuffles. Yeah, so many kerfuffles. There's so many interesting words that rhyme with ruffles. We could rap and rhyme kerfuffle with ruffles. Kerfuffle, Kurt Russell. Got into a kerfuffle and almost dropped my ruffles.

Starting point is 01:59:22 Mm-hmm. And then I was funding David Russell. Hey, I can't knock his hustle. R.P. Nipsey Hustle. Use a bitch. You don't want to tussle. I'm Jay Cutler with the muscles. I'll slap you up like my drunk uncle.

Starting point is 01:59:44 Name Garf uncle. I'm smoking on somebody's uncle. If I was on somebody's uncle. my punk rock phase, I'd be slapping Mr. Bungle. I'm Marty Genetti jumping off the turnbuckle. It's a bar. I'm so fat I'm busting through my belt buckle. I got too much bread.

Starting point is 02:00:07 My pants won't buckle. Big chopper on me. I don't need to use my knuckles. I'm at the pop... That's what that's... You're on the roll right now. Me and Adam at the pop-up shop getting into scuffles. Shout out to house phone because your hireer won't suck you.

Starting point is 02:00:26 You scared of milk's fade. You're out here. trying to duck foe duck food man fuck you well i'm not a stripper but i do know some kung fu wait stripper oh shit okay wait a second 80 i used to think you the man you used to run some different scams then i got confused because you started stripping his sams no it was the right track lush i'm trying to put you on the right track i need a good producer in my corner For the right track. And both of y'all say in words.

Starting point is 02:01:00 You're really trying to bring the white back. Adam 22? Man, I'm in the office like Michael, but I'm trying to bring the white back. I'm trying to do a pod with Kanye. He's trying to bring whites back. I like pussy because when I fight it, don't fight back. I fuck with Kodak because we both like a dyke with a nice back. I know I can't talk about meth, but I used to smoke the nice batch.

Starting point is 02:01:33 I'm fucking young M.A. long as she got a coochie. I heard lush like the dick in his booty. No, that isn't... Well, no, no, I said, I hit Mr. Girl so we can talk about cuties. And then I hit up Dirk so I could kick it with duty. And then me and Rick Ross are going to slip bitches of roofies. Okay.

Starting point is 02:01:59 Nah, you don't want to say that. Listen, Mr. 22. You still can't spill Sue. You're such a, Adam 22, you're such a cuck. It's true. I heard that you like to see your mother get fucked in front of you. They hit the jackshad and cuckadoo. And then,

Starting point is 02:02:20 because blood talk is not enough for you. And then Crit Mac will call you a custer too. The problem is when my mom Mom got fucked and got rabies, the dude that fucked her was my boy 80. Ooh. He put the hurting to her. Put the squirting to her. Pokemon Go.

Starting point is 02:02:43 He put the squirtle to her. They call me Batman. I put the Tim Burton to her. Mm-hmm. He's a Crip. He rocking Squirtle Blue. Lush rocking a lot of green. He looked like a turtle, too.

Starting point is 02:02:56 Facts. Facts. And I also look like a fat pee-wee Herman, too. You might be German, too. But you look like the last waiter that served me food. And you look like one of the Nazis in higher learning food. Man, I'm fresh... About to go fig and serve some dudes.

Starting point is 02:03:22 And then I'm going to catch your bitch on the rebound like Turkleu. And I might go to plug.com and see some nudes. I might watch family matters and jerk off to Urkel, too. God damn. Any type of jerk will do. And I'm a... And I'm going to eat Laura's pussy. I'm talking about...

Starting point is 02:03:45 Hold on, hold on. Lord. Whoa, Laura's... We're talking about Urkel. We're talking about Urkel's bitch Laura. Okay, okay. Come on, fool. Hey.

Starting point is 02:03:55 I'm about to say. You took this too far unless... And I ain't saying... I robbed Duno when I say I jerked a foo. All right, we're out. Nojumper.com. Get tickets for our L.A. show at the Novo. No homo.

Starting point is 02:04:14 Josh working for the po-po. Damn, man, I'm going to be rapping the whole way home now. And Lush is on the flyer because bitch is bounced on my dick like a lo-low. He off the meth is moved up and down like a yo-yo. And A.D.'s weight is looking like he just ate a bunch of ho-hoes. and you look like every day of your life you're a hobo the reality is every day of my life I'm selling cocoa I got your bitch playing my dick like a guitar solo

Starting point is 02:04:44 I heard you let saucy Santana hit and you kept it on the lolo that ain't my bro bro bro

No Jumper - The No Jumper Show Ep. 170

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