No Jumper - The No Jumper Show Ep. 171

Episode Date: November 7, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. I just remember this is the No Jumper show and we don't normally do that. Yeah, this is rock with him. But this is. It's kind of work. This is my room, so I just am so used to doing it. It's weird being in here with you guys.
Starting point is 00:00:14 I don't think I've been in here with either. Yeah, you have. I've never been in here, period. We did the 19 Keys interview. There you go. Try the 19 keys. Look at Lange him. This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:00:24 It's a weird position. Just like these positions? No, this is how we say. All right. That's what she said. I should be, like, facing you a little bit more, I think. I have to kind of crane my neck and sort of freaking me out. So now he's telling me, like, I'm doing a bad podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:37 I ain't got to look at you. I can just look at the camera. Keep your poker face going. Not show how bad it hurt your feelings? Yeah. It's a dagger to the heart. How's everybody doing? This is kind of different.
Starting point is 00:00:46 I'm going to be honest. I actually like it because we're recording at 3 on a Monday as opposed to 6 p.m. on a Tuesday. I have a little bit more energy on Monday. I'm going to be honest with you. And I like recording podcasts earlier. So I'm not saying that this is going to become a consistent thing. We're only just doing this because I have to do a poker tournament.
Starting point is 00:01:04 I don't mind. You don't mind. Hey. Six is late. I'm struggling to stay awake at six. Whatever you're rocking with. I'm cool. Pause.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Don't give me that. Not like that. I'll take advantage of that. I thought we weren't going to be excessive with depositing. I thought that was a whole thing. I mean, but he's going like. What do we just say it about? Move your body like a snake mom.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Nobody said that. You know what we do have to do that? We have to congratulate Tiro and his girlfriend for going super viral on TikTok with the Simpsons costumes. They put that shit off. You know what's crazy? They put so much effort into that that if they didn't go viral, it would have been kind of insulting.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Like, okay, TikTok, y'all don't appreciate that we went full yellow, the whole family? The no-jubber news thing today was about who had the best costume out of all these celebrities. And I was like, nah, the best costume goes to the home team. T.Rill and Heather and the family. Who else was nominated? Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:02:04 Kim and Diddy and... I was Bert. You looked like a creepy bird. It was like three weeks ago because I had to do it before my girl went away. Like if Bert was a serial killer, then that's you. I was really impressed that, like, Parker was so chill while getting all that making. Unless you just chose the best moments, like... No, she was pretty chill.
Starting point is 00:02:23 You just, like, have to sit her there. You can't show her what her face looks like until it's already done, because otherwise she'll start touching. stuff but we turned her into the count and it was pretty smooth honestly i kind of felt like the makeup artists didn't need to go so hard like she put these giant evil looking eyebrows on her and i was kind of looking at it like you know you could have just painted her face purple like you didn't have to go full like vampire with her she looked like she was from kuto but i'm counting those eyebrows count pooh-poo because she took a shit while she was rocking out like the count
Starting point is 00:02:55 She kept being count poo-poo. Those eyebrows look like she was from 18th Street gang, though. Yes, it was like, I've seen some girls in my life who had those eyebrows tattooed on their face. I love them. God bless their soul. God bless their soul. I won't say who, but my girl got a family member with that shit tatted on her eyebrows, and it's so fucking funny to me every time I see it.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Banged out. Gangsters. Would you rather have the pencil thin eyebrow or like the super bushy? Oh, yeah. I'm not, but I got enough eyebrow for any bitch I'm dating. You feel me? Like, come on. You got thick eyebrows?
Starting point is 00:03:24 What? These things, I got a caterpillar on my face. Oh, those are hard. What about yours? I think of yours. I never think about mine. Isn't it such a weird place to have hair? It is, though.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Yeah, but it stops. But it's weird once it's gone. Well, that's terrible. No, no, you look insane without it. Look at Doja Cat, fool. Look at X. Remember X shit his back in the day? His shit was kind of cool, though.
Starting point is 00:03:47 He looked like a cyborg. It was like, hair was like silver at the time or something. It was right. It was going for him. It was good with his image. His image, yeah. Now that made me realize what Doja Cat looks like. She looks like X when he shaved his eyebrows.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Girls love doing this stuff to test if we think they're hot or not. Doja Cat's like, oh, you think I'm sexy? I'm going to shave my fucking eyebrows off. Or I'm going to shave my head. These are all tests that girls love to put them through. And every girl you ever date haven't they talked about shaving their head at some point? Or just having really short hair? Yeah, it's a thing.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Me personally, I don't fuck with it. But, you know, I support it when a woman does it. I understand it is just a, you know, support. But my girl will always be like, I wish I had the face to shave my head. She's like, Amber Rose can get away with it. Amber Rose, she kills it. She can. But she looked better with hair, though.
Starting point is 00:04:36 That's what I'm saying. I've seen photos of Amber with hair. I'm like, what the hell have you been wasting your life not having hair for? The hair, like, to me, I feel like hair is my attraction. It's like 75% of me being attracted to a girl is just her hair. I wouldn't say 75%, but definitely it's a big, uh, you know, Yeah. You ever look at the UFC ring girls from a distance and you see the long blonde hair and it just looks so, you just think they're so hot? And then they zoom in and you realize they kind of look like a crackhead with a bunch of makeup on. But the long blonde hair in my mind, it's just like, ah, she's great. I love her. See, for me, it's the long brown hair. Oh, I'll go for that too. Yeah, I look at that and I'd be like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:17 If a bitch is bald, it's really all good until you're about to get dome and then you're like touching the back of their head and you're like, oh, man. I can't do that. But don't you feel like it's a thing where like 1% of women are deemed sexy enough to be able to rock a shaved head? Some can do it. And be considered hot. For sure, for like lighter-complected women, that's a thing. Well, that's interesting too. Because I definitely, when I think about all the, like, can you think of a black woman who's like really sought after that is out publicly rocking no hair all at time?
Starting point is 00:05:47 Who is it? I don't know. There's got to be someone. Think about this. And she's not like particularly dark skin. She's not at all. But, like, when Hallie Barry had the short hair, bad as fuck. That's iconic.
Starting point is 00:05:57 But she is in the top 1% of female faces. For sure. That's true. Absolutely. You know? But then at the same time, like... Did a sweetie do it too? She's pretty hot.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I'm trying to picture Beyonce with a shaved head. She would still be bad. She would be beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. Better than a lot of women, but I think she should hold under her hair. Where is it for you with Beyonce? Because, you know, the late great Kevin Samuels, he who said Beyonce was an eight,
Starting point is 00:06:22 you know what I mean I don't get into rating women I'm not really into the like one through 10 scale I think it's all too subjective let's say no number let's just say what is your you know if you was like okay like what do you look at Beyonce like as one of I think she's one of the most beautiful women yeah you know I was she's up there how is she not a 10 she's a 10 for her age yeah I think she's she's got to be like one of the most beautiful woman you could think of but I think the question that Kevin Sammas raises which is very fair is like you know there there are women who live their entire life and they only only ever show you the made-up polished, photoshopped version of themselves. Somebody like a Kylie Jenner, you don't really get to see her without makeup on. So then pictures leak in the tabloids are her without makeup on, and you get to realize like, ah, she looks a little different.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I do respect somebody like Tanna Manju, who literally just does TikToks without makeup on, looks 1,000% different than the photos that she posts with FaceTune and shit. But I mean, she just kind of rocks it. She accepts her FaceTune, but then she also accepts that she doesn't look like that makeup on. It's kind of
Starting point is 00:07:24 weird for me to even judge like a Beyonce against like a normal woman who I know who I know what they look like not all done up. I don't really know what Beyonce looks like when she's on the couch crying and having her hair all fucked up, right? To me, that's the sexiest part though. Crying? No, not crying. Not crying, but just
Starting point is 00:07:40 when you're in your element and where you are comfortable and you ain't feel like you got to put that stuff on and if I can still look at you and rock with you, I'm like, okay, I can fuck with that. I don't like makeup personally. Makeup takes away from them a lot of times. I feel like I feel like at this point, there's this whole makeup subculture, which is only interesting to other women and gay men.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I don't. Okay. But I think you got to be real. For pictures, though, it works. If a girl posts a photo of her looking fully done up and sexy with her makeup done, she's going to get 100,000 likes in. She posts a photo where she just looks regular with a sweatsuit on or whatever, and they're still face tuning in their face, even if they're posting a regular ass photo.
Starting point is 00:08:18 But I'm just saying, like, the proof is in the pudding that men like the way the women look when they're all made up. Now, I understand that, like, in real life, it can be kind of weird and disturbing to just realize how much work goes into a girl making themselves look like that. And especially when you're dating a girl and living with her and you spend 90% of your time with her not looking like that and you get super used to it, it can be kind of weird when they get fully done up and, you know, they're just this like weird clown version of themselves.
Starting point is 00:08:45 But, I mean, the shit, the proofs in the pudding, right? But the whole point of a woman wearing makeup is to make it seem like she's not, when you could visibly tell that she has makeup on, it takes away from it to me. Like, and as far as Beyonce goes, I'll say this. Looks wise, absolutely attend. But she doesn't have the same level of sex appeal as a lot of other women because she seems like she's hell of prude in bed. Like she seemed like, that's my, my opinion. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:09:13 1,000%, bro, she don't seem. Destiny Child back then when she was lead singer Destiny's chap, bro, she seemed like a proof of you? I bet you. Kelly is way, way nastier in bed. I think Michelle is. Michelle will let you spit in her mouth. The very holy chick? For sure. Michelle, like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:31 she's with all the activities. Now, as far as Beyonce... Kelly's amazing. Yeah, I would rather hit her, to be honest. Kelly Rowland. She was one of the girls in Destiny's Child. She was a darker complexion one beautiful. I only know Beyonce. She's a one with more ass.
Starting point is 00:09:47 She's more ass than Beyonce. You know no Destiny Child song ever. Can you name one? all the single ladies That's not a Destiny Child song I'm sure I know I'm sure I know a Destiny Child song You're just so against R&B No I just don't know I don't
Starting point is 00:10:00 I haven't paid a lot of attention to this Soldiers Soldier was classic Oh it wasn't Lil Wayne on that Yeah I just I don't remember when it stopped being Destiny Child and it became Beyonce When she came out with the crazy
Starting point is 00:10:11 In Love with Jay Z that was like the That was the setting up That was a Joe Butter moment for her The what? She said fuck Rory and Miley Mall in retrospect Shout out Rorya Mall No hate, I'm just kidding
Starting point is 00:10:27 Beyoncé makes so much money I feel like she'd be like Hoves like Hey Y'OB I'm trying to hit it from behind And she's like I don't do that Like I can see her At the time
Starting point is 00:10:38 Not being cool She was considered like The most prettiest in the industry And everybody was at her I guess I'm talking about when she was younger Right And people were trying to get her
Starting point is 00:10:49 Once Jay-Z got it was over. They knew it was over. There's an interesting point in a man's life, and I feel like most guys, myself included, we have a part of our relationship, including our long-term relationship, and Offset is like this. Apparently, Jay-Z is like this. You have the part of your relationship where you might be serious about your girl, but you're also cheating on your girl.
Starting point is 00:11:08 And then at some point, something happens, and you stop cheating. Offset got publicly caught trying to arrange a threesome with two random thoughts, and then he had to, you know, a cost, Cardi B on stage at Rolling Loud and present her with all these flowers and stuff to get her back. And from what it seems, you would think that he hasn't cheated since, or at least if he has,
Starting point is 00:11:28 it hasn't been this big blowout thing, right? Same thing with Jay-Z. You see him have the fight in the fucking elevator. We haven't heard anything since. Is he actually cheating? We don't know. But, I mean, it's like, it seems like a lot of guys. Me and my girl had one.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Found a bunch of booty photos on my phone from some random girl. Boom. All of a sudden, we're having this all-out fight. Huh? Blow out here? No. Okay. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:11:49 No. But like, there's been a lot of theories about the Jay-Z and Beyonce thing that that was all the publicity stunt and fabricated down to the Salon-Hs thing. No, no. Solange ain't putting their hands on Jay-Z for no reason. There's been a lot of, you haven't heard that speculation before? I heard it, though. Yeah. That she was doing it for another reason?
Starting point is 00:12:07 What would the other reason be? Salon's four, Chrison Rock on Jay-Z. No, it was literally, and I'm not saying it's true, but there's a, because think about how much they profited off of that. It became the fodder for both of their next album, Lemonade. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Lemonade and 444. But, okay, this is the thing people always do is they take someone making the best out of a bad situation in the sense of like, oh, we already have this publicly exposed drama. We need to sell records. Realistically, Jay-Z and Beyonce over the years, their sales have really fallen off. Like, they just don't sell the way they used to. So why are we not going to involve it? No, it's not good. It's not like it used to be. Other than Taylor Swift, Beyonce, I think, did the most copies this year. Okay, that might be true, but I just remember when I was looking at the sales on the... He's Twicken.
Starting point is 00:12:52 No, the Jay and Beyonce project did not sell that well. Right. So that Beyonce thing, you might be right. And the Jay-Z's 4-44-al album, you have to remember, you can only get it originally with the Samsung fucking, if you had a Samsung phone. You can only get it on the STEM player, right? Yeah, it's just like that. But whole of all, every time Jay Z drops, he sells a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I mean, you guys... It sells pretty good. I don't think that they, like, not everything has to be scripted in advance. It's not like, oh, we're going to stage this fight and then we're going to make an album by it. What's more likely is that they actually just got caught having this little fight. Keep in mind, this is Jay-Z. This is somebody who throughout his career has had like almost none of his behind-the-scenes bullshit, aired out to the public.
Starting point is 00:13:34 He's been extremely good at it. He cuts ties with rappers who diss him like instantaneously. You know, if a rapper has anything to say about him, boom, you're out of his orbit. I've seen it happen many times. But then again, that's not, you know, I was going to say Jay-Z literally like stabbed somebody. Right, but you're talking about a much younger version. Doom-D. These days, you don't get to see anything of Jay-Z.
Starting point is 00:13:54 He's like Eminem, where it's like he just does not give you anything. But then again, we can't sit there and give credit to all these artists from back then. They didn't, their career wasn't there with social media. No, but Jay-Z was messy back when there wasn't social media. Now there is social media and he keeps the shit chill. Well, yeah, he's older now. There's no reason. And he learned how to move.
Starting point is 00:14:13 A lot of these guys just didn't know how to move. Like they were wild and crazy kids. Let's be real, man. When it comes to the cheating thing, listen, I understand the shit. Why? Because Instagram now, like, I can scroll down my Explorer page, and there's 17 fat asses right in my fucking face. I go on Twitter, they're fucking right in my face.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Me. Plug talk. I have to hear him talk about this shit. Available, only plug talk.com. You know, doing Patreon. and doing all type of shit. I can see as a man where the temptation is. And especially if you're rich, if you're famous,
Starting point is 00:14:50 you've got a lot of shit going on. You have every motherfucker looking at you ready to jump in your motherfucking pants. I understand the shit. Yeah. Everybody wants to bang you? No, I didn't say. Pretty privileged.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I didn't say, me. But I'm just saying I can understand why his heart. But I think that that's a natural cycle for a relationship to go through where you have this period of time where you're getting to know you don't fully respect her, so you're cheating on her and whatever. And then at a certain point, you just realize, okay, what I have here is good enough that I need to actually respect her and treat her like my equal and be honest with her. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:15:27 If today Lenna said, I don't want to film content anymore, are you content with just having sexual sexual enough? Yeah, I'm just going to be like, bitch, you better pop out a lot of fucking babies over the next couple years. If you ain't doing plug talk with me and making money like that, then you better get to work. No, I'm a treated like a Hasidic Jewish mom. Get to work. Make me 18 kids this year. And flip some lack because, bitch.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I think that it was actually a lot easier to cheat prior to social media. And I'll tell you why. Because you want to get caught. Exactly. 1,000 percent. Like, the more known you are, the more, like, it's more variables. Like, the margin for error is increased significantly. Man, let's be real.
Starting point is 00:16:08 So Papa was a rolling stone. Like, back then, people would have whole other. families. You feel me? And that's the reason why men would meet a woman and probably if they didn't talk to her would never see her again, wouldn't know where to find her and shit like that. Motherfuckers was, motherfuckers was cheating way crazier than they're doing that. And that's why I think it's crazy when I think about what it would be like for me cheating, just under the microscope that I'm under. If you do it, you're a dickhead and you get to fuck whoever you want. And then I think about offset and the fact that he was cheating and he's making
Starting point is 00:16:40 arrangements for threesomes and shit with random whores. You're married, I don't know if they're married at the time, but you're with Cardi B. She's literally like the most popular female rapper at that moment. These chicks are in the club drunk as fuck listening to her music. You don't think that they're going to go tell somebody like, oh, I just fucking bang this chick's husband with my friend yesterday. Why would you ever put faith? That's like me and you go commit a murder with like four random guys that we don't know. And then they go telling us. It's like, yeah, of course. Like you don't know Why the fuck would you trust them in the first place? And so for me, I feel the same way, even though obviously my girl ain't Cardi B, but it's like,
Starting point is 00:17:16 if I'm just out here cheating on my girl, these girls talk. Like how fucking long is it going to take before that shit gets back to her? Now, maybe if I cheat on her with some fucking, you know, chicken Kansas, it might take longer to get back to her. But I mean, realistically, that shit is just all coming back. See, and like you said, if I do something now, especially with the way that these fucking fans and supporters are, Jesus Christ, I can't do a stream without them hitting my girl. up saying, hey, these with girls.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Oh, I'd love to see David Russell investigate your private life. Jesus Christ. Oh, cool. I'm chilling now. Back in the day, 2010, I had three simultaneous relationships going on in different cities. Oh, I did. What cities? I had the same city.
Starting point is 00:17:55 To be honest with you, Oakland, Los Angeles, and Marseille, France. How much time you were spending in France? That's so random. Well, I had a record deal out there. He said, wee, we. I had a deal out there. So I would be out there Like a sporadically like once every few months
Starting point is 00:18:13 It didn't even last that long And see those are the great relationships Yeah Where you just got to text every day Make them feel good Then you go out there The pussy is prime time You're talking about 2003
Starting point is 00:18:23 You're barely even texting at that point This is 2010 Oh 2010 Yeah So Facebook Messenger and Google Translate Really helped quite a bit It just the biggest problem was She didn't speak no English
Starting point is 00:18:34 No she spoke English But it's like but I would try to be slick and say shit to her in French too. You know what I'm saying? No, but yo, I remember 2003. I'm in college, right? And so I have this girl that I'm dating over the summer, right? And she kind of like knows I'm going to be fucking other girls once we go off to college.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Because she's going to be about two, three hours away from me while we're at college. And so she's basically just gives me the full on leash at the end of the summer where she says, listen, I know you're going to fuck other girls. As long as you're committed to me emotionally, I don't give a fuck. You can fuck other girls. It's all good. I'm not going to do the same thing. Boom.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I'm like thinking to my head, fuck, yeah. This is great. I got my emotional security with this girl I really like. But then I also can fuck around and all I have. But she said, I just don't want to know about it. It was the night before her birthday. I go to Boston. I end up doing, who knows what.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I end up banging some girls. So there was a big ass hickey on my fucking neck. And then I go to see my girl the next day. And the way that the school bathrooms are, whatever you do or like the showers it's like the showers aren't really near a mirror so you like dry off and like you know put your clothes on and stuff while you're still like in the shower type thing right so at no point do i actually look in the mirror and realize i have this huge fucking hickie and my girlfriend spots it on my neck on her birthday and that was the end of my like three
Starting point is 00:19:57 months of open relationship see i was so good at at lying in a relationship that when i remember one time I got a gnarly ass hicky from the LA girl. And when I realized I had a hicky, and I knew I had to go back home to my girlfriend in Oakland, I called it. And obviously I know the remedy you use like the top of the lipstick. The lipstick thing. What do you do
Starting point is 00:20:20 with the top of the lipstick? You know, the spoon, that shit doesn't do. It kind of works. I heard if you freeze a spoon and then you rub it. I had a homie who would do it. No, no, no. You take lipstick and you like, but you screw it to the point where the lipstick's fully inside. So it's just like the little cylinder and you put it against it and pull
Starting point is 00:20:36 and then like you stick it on there and pull and like it moves the blood vessels to the point where if I had known I almost would have like had my homie punch me a bunch of times because then it would blend in if I had a black eye and then I got a hickie the pussy ain't worth it. No but that's
Starting point is 00:20:52 exactly what I did. Josh beat my ass. No I literally I really honestly would have at that time if I just had no idea. I had a hickie I call my girl up and I was like hey baby I'm about to get in a fight I'm about to get in a fight these fools are me mugging me and then like then I like had this whole story about how I got
Starting point is 00:21:08 choked out and blah blah blah blah and it worked. See I had a homie that fucking told on me I thought I got away, went to my girlfriend That's not a homie. No I said I just said at the time I went to my girlfriend's birthday You feel me and I had a scarf on And I'm, it's in fucking L.A. You feel
Starting point is 00:21:24 me? I got a scarf on at a fucking birthday party I don't know how I thought I was going to get away with that shit I don't want to see you in a scarf Oh you're rocking scarf because of the Because of the fucking hicky and then, yeah, she's just like the next day, oh, you think I don't know what's going on or whatever. And then the guy ends up getting with her, and then I'll, you know.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Oh, yeah, that's some sidebuster shit. I wanted to kill them. I'm not going to put you in this category because I like your girlfriend so much, but don't you feel like there's a lot of guys who basically just like would be a lot happier if they were single, but they just like lack the ability to be alone in any meaningful way? So basically you're just sitting a shot at me. Just go ahead.
Starting point is 00:22:02 No. No, I'm going to choose to believe that your relationship is actually wholly out of the goodness of your heart. You just threw a shot. I'm not saying this about you. But there's a lot of guys, right, who it's like, did I have dependency issues? Yes, I did. That's a way to put it. I would like to say that I look at it like, and it might sound fucked up.
Starting point is 00:22:23 But I was like, you know, in relationships, I would be a memory card. You know, another girl's around. I just transfer the save data and I bring everything to the next person. I used to be like that. No, I feel blatantly attacked by that statement. Oh, that describes you as well? To an unfortunate T. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Yeah. Sorry about that. I don't like, so basically since. I wonder it about myself. Since I was 16 years old, I've been single for a year and a half. See? I've never been single that long. No, no, I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Since 17. I'm saying total, total, a year and a half in 23 years. years. I was single like 2007 to 2017. Wow. I think I had like a three month the relationship. Wow. Which most people wouldn't call a relationship, but it felt very real. But that was like, I just realized like, oh, I'm not going to put my time. And that ended with Lennon. So it's like, before that I had 10 years of being like, I'm not going to like waste time on being in a relationship with a girl who is going to slow me down in terms of everything that I want to accomplish. And also, clearly I just want to run around
Starting point is 00:23:33 get pussy so me being in like a serious relationship is probably pretty stupid. No, I respect it and like you're obviously very secure with who you are and stuff like But you get lonely. And I don't like being lonely and at all I hate it. I like it. Still to this day. You're still, is your family even back yet?
Starting point is 00:23:50 No. You just been melting. They're back Thursday night and I'm super lonely. But I'm like owning it because it's like I know what it is. Like they just went away for a couple weeks. But definitely like in my head I'm like this is not good. Like if they weren't coming back, I would basically need to recreate that exact scenario.
Starting point is 00:24:06 How bad is it leaving the office going home now, knowing that they're not going to be there? I really feel like I don't have much of a reason to leave. There's been a lot of nights where I have only left because everybody else left, and I just don't want to be in here alone. So like Kelvin's leaving, and I'm like, okay, we'll go too. I feel like kind of a loser being like,
Starting point is 00:24:24 oh, the editor's leaving. I guess it's time of being left. So do you think because I've been seeing a lot of motherfuckettuckett said the reason you've been acting fucking more vocal and principal like is because you're upset your family's not here I'm not upset I'm totally like
Starting point is 00:24:39 if anything I feel like I'm not really if anything I'm just like more focused business wise content wise it could be a symptom of box withdrawal I thought about that no I haven't been that horny he don't got a hand withdrawal though I'm like inundated
Starting point is 00:24:53 I'm so inundated in sex like in every given week that's actually the weird part is not having to do plug talk I have like way more time during the week when I don't have to be going and doing that. How time consuming is Plug Talk overall? It really takes like a couple hours for each scene. But does that take mental preparation? Well, it's like my day might be pull up the Plug Talk at noon and then film two episodes
Starting point is 00:25:15 and then come and do two interviews here. So it's just like more. Just all work. Yeah, but when you have to fuck too, it's like a different level of work. That's crazy too. Working multiple episodes in a day as opposed to spreading it out through the week. That's an interesting choice. I can just nut over and over and over
Starting point is 00:25:30 I'll show you one day I believe you I believe you I believe you oh my god you decided to come in stunting today huh that's not a depression outfit no this is clearly this is clearly a depression outfit
Starting point is 00:25:44 I don't know how I feel about the hat with the jacket though it's like a different red than the one that's on the sleeve it is it is it's like every color and then I guess you throw in the denim it's kind of like you know what's just missing match your hands are sweaty as fuck
Starting point is 00:25:57 you know what You get nervous doing this? No, no. I get excited. I get excited. Lush. I just want to tell the people out there that I love you and I care about you. And that the only reason...
Starting point is 00:26:12 You know what pisses me off about the fact that anybody took me as being aggressive towards you last time is just the fact that I felt like I went very out of my way to add like a bunch of caveats to be like, I'm not telling you never do this. I'm just trying to have a conversation about the frequency. of this thing being the meth tales first of all i love you too i love meth tales secondly because you haven't lived this life i've never been there the thing is though i mean if you didn't fuck with me why would i be on your main show right and i think that's something that was kind of lost on the people like this is a position that any other person that does a podcast would want you know what i mean like
Starting point is 00:26:53 besides the successful ones right know over here you why would you why would you choose to have me on there of all the people especially when i've been here for like the least amount of time if you didn't heavily fuck with me see i think the thing is and like i said if you watch it back i said that's a conversation you could have with lush off the pot but people always say that it's like i like talking about the podcast on the podcast i don't really see why that's a bad thing the difference is is that lusch was actually telling a great story and usually i blurt out some stupid shit so you're actually correcting me for the better. And I feel like you're so used to like, hey, don't do that. Or that's a tick.
Starting point is 00:27:30 That's a tick. Which you're granted by saying that, but Lus actually had an engaging story that people was like, why the fuck would he even tell them like to do that? It's not like I said anything during the prior episode's meth stories. I just mentioned it later on because, and it's funny because the reason why I said something was because I read a bunch of comments about it. And then when I brought it up as a topic, I got acted as if I had invented this criticism out of mid-air. And it wasn't even really a criticism. I just wanted to have that topic because that's something me and house fun have talked about too and i feel like i'm saying the exact same thing i said last week about how the partying stories is kind of like its own
Starting point is 00:28:05 specific genre it's kind of like fight stories or even sex stories where you know and like even yury when i went on ted talks we kind of had this conversation afterwards i think where about the fact that he does that when he's in a conversation with somebody they'll tell like a fight story and then he just boom well here's my fight story and then they start telling them and it's like it just kind of creates a a different type of podcast environment, I guess. Well, yeah, and at a certain point, we don't want this to be the meth cast. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:33 You just wanted to, I relate. I'm dropping out. You wanted to get the point across early on. I am a former meth head. This is where I'm coming from. No, like, the reality is I have, like I said before, an unlimited reservoir of stories.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And meth. You know what's crazy? Is my meth use really was concentrated to a one-year period. I had a one-weekend period. And it just, it did the damn thing. It definitely did the darn thing. Yeah, it was, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:06 My weekend totally just, like, taught me everything I needed to know. And but then the fact that I, like, am able to have that conversation, it is kind of like, damn, maybe every drug is worth doing. Maybe everything is worth doing because then you will never be caught in a conversation unable to talk about that thing. I'm not going to do no math to have a conversation. I am cool. You don't need to.
Starting point is 00:29:27 The thing about this, too, is meth makes you so hyper aware that every subtle detail is embedded in your brain and you never lose sight of it because it makes you so focused. Whereas, like... That's interesting because that is kind of how that weekend was for me is I kind of like remember everything. Everything. Like, as opposed to XNX, you like... Nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I'm still remembering things that I've found. forgot 15 years ago. I have Xen X memories that are just like whole nights where I know I kicked it with tons of people, tons of girls, famous people, whatever, and I don't remember shit. You know you guys are literally doing what you said you didn't want to do? Yeah, but we're just getting out there. No, but we're not going into specifics. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Although for me, my meth thing was specific. But anyway, I just wanted to comment on that. No, it's love. And like at the end of the day, we just go. We push the line, baby. We make it make sense. We're making great content happen. I also just wanted to say this is that I feel like we're at least trying to initiate a new era of no jumper content in which we have maybe a little bit more solidarity between the team and a little bit less petty drama.
Starting point is 00:30:38 This has been something that's been discussed at length, whatever. I just feel like at a certain point, it's just we got to start moving better as a unit. And there's just been a little bit too much like, oh, let's stir shit up to make some content. And I think we got to just kind of like really keep it out in the air. And we're kind of expected something a little bit different moving forward. And I can honestly say I'm part of the blame too. Unintentionally, you feel me? But just even having these type of conversations off camera and shit like that,
Starting point is 00:31:05 that shit ain't for the world and shit. So I could, you know, I can say where I played my part in that shit. You know what I mean? Especially this week, this shit got a little out of hand. And I see now like, all right, there's too many fires and there's too many coincidences. You know what the shit is happening. Is it you or is it just the fact that it's happening on your platform? It's not.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I just feel like. Because I feel like you're the opposite of that. No, I feel like I'm the opposite too. But, you know, if something happens at no jumper, that's on Adam regardless. You got to own that. So if something happens on community clips, I'm going to take full responsibility for it. It don't matter who fuck said something, whatever it is. Like, I can sit there and I can own that shit.
Starting point is 00:31:42 You know what I mean? My intentions are always pure. But you feel me? I just feel like sometimes when people are under this roof, they're like, okay, this is work. And then when they go somewhere else, they're like, oh, I'm having fun. I'm speaking freely or I'm sipping something or I'm doing this and I'm doing that.
Starting point is 00:31:57 And then people's truths come out, how they really fucking feel, and then it just comes across his messaging and shit. I'm just like being more direct with people. Like when the whole little Blasey thing happened, which to his credit, it was like a one-minute conversation. And I understand how he didn't think that he was going to be taken as if he was being super literal or whatever. But that would be an example of the kind of thing
Starting point is 00:32:18 I just think we should probably keep out of bounds. It's like having conversations about who gets paid, what or whatever. Even if it's ingest or joke and it's like, whatever, bro. Like, that just doesn't need to happen. That's just lame. And Blasie got it right away when I said it. I said it to the fogo the other day where I'm like, look, I know you're going to do whatever the fuck you're going to do on live stream and shit.
Starting point is 00:32:35 But you making videos about pot lord and all this kind of shit, it just doesn't need to happen. It's not. And the main reason why it's like, it's almost like a reality check. Like, bro, this is not going to do anything good for you. This is just not. going to blow you up. Everybody who wants to hear a conversation about pot lord and blasi already knows who poetic flaco is. And it's like the same reason where I've had this conversation with Vlad and academics is that we have nothing to gain from beefing with each other. Because everybody
Starting point is 00:33:03 who knows about academics or knows about Vlad probably knows about me, 90% of our fan bases know about each other. So it's like we're just not going to grow through having, you know, conversations with each other or whatever. So it's better for us to just stay on the same page. Whereas, oh yeah, academics beefing with a little baby is probably good for him he gets to make some content people are excited they're talking about them i get that talking about people in flago's case who have less followers than you is not doing anything for you besides just it gives you something to talk about but like where's the growth in that less it fucks up the vibe it does yeah right it makes it really awkward and flaco's fucking disillusional like i see a fucking david russar
Starting point is 00:33:42 thing says ad drives a 350 000 car i was thinking i'm like no i'm like no nigga i'm doing very well for myself. $350,000. I'm like, that's like a fucking Lamborghini. That's way off. But no, like, you know, I kind of, it's only $325. I don't know anything about how much a Lamborghini cost for the record.
Starting point is 00:33:59 There's probably some car dealers out there. I drive a very, very nice car, but it's not no $300,000 and $50,000. But I think the shit started with you, Adam. And let me tell you why. You said you made a million a month with no jumper. After that, I'll never be allowed to forget about this. Yes. So after that, I feel like all the host was like,
Starting point is 00:34:18 hold on they're trying to crush the numbers they do me personally and and I had a conversation with Adam about this shit too is that anytime somebody tells me about my money that I get paid here and shit like that I always said I get paid well even when I'm talking academics for five hours and he's like hey you ain't getting 250 you're not getting 300 oh you ain't getting I'm like I'm not going to say nothing because at the end of the day you're my homeboy I don't want to make you look bad in any type of situation or there ain't no conversations that we need to be having outside of the team. But when it comes down to everything else, bro,
Starting point is 00:34:50 like the only person that I've ever disclosed how much I made was the house phone one time. And that was only to get the battery in his back because I was like, bro, I'm over here making this, this, this, this, this. And he's like, wait, you're making that? All right, let me get my show now and let me do that. So it was more of a motivation for him because right after that, he pressed the issue on getting disconnected
Starting point is 00:35:11 and wanted to be on camera more and do more shit. But then, like, the thing is that, If Blasie was getting rejected on trying to talk about money from me or Josh, then I would understand him saying some slick shit on a podcast or whatever, but that's not the case. Like, we just haven't had that conversation. I'm somebody, I'm totally willing to have that conversation with anybody about their compensation. And it's just like, I don't know. It's just like that.
Starting point is 00:35:35 That's like a fake narrative. And now I've got to read that in my fucking Twitch chat or whatever. And it's like, it's not a big thing, like the amount of shit that I'm getting about it. But it's just like, this is just an example of stuff that we don't really need to be doing. I was thinking I use the TDE example for you What would TDE do in any given situation? If Ken, rewind the tape a couple years ago Kendrick's still a TDE.
Starting point is 00:35:56 If somebody asked Kendry, you know, how's J. Rock? And him and J.R.R. were just fucking fighting in the studio the night before or whatever. Who knows? Maybe, I'm sure that there's been behind the scenes drama. I assume Kendr's still just going to say, that's my brother. I love him.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Of course. Right? Like, you just don't. We don't need to be putting the drama shit out there for the, And if you can't think of anything to talk about to get views without talking about the drama shit, then you need to really check yourself because this is not energy that I'm looking for people to be bringing on this shit. And that's what me and Lush before we even got on here was talking about. Because I know, like, with me personally, and Lush, I can say Lus is the same for Lush.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I'd fuck with everybody here. Right. You feel me? If I dislike you, you're not going to have to hide. I mean, you're not going to have to figure it out. I'm going to let you know, you feel me? And that's what it's going to be. And whatever comes from that, that's what comes from that.
Starting point is 00:36:45 But whenever I have a dispute with Adam, I get mad at Adam and I call Adam because this is my homeboy. Anybody that I fuck with, I can call you. And if we can't handle it the right way, then we can handle it a different way. And on top of that, a lot of people are letting the fans perpetuate the negativity. And maybe because I was involved in the battle rap community for so long and have been in the public eye and dealt with online communities that were like really ravenous when it comes to, content and all that, I kind of know how to navigate that a little bit. So when if somebody says like, yo, AD was talking shit about you or even post a clip
Starting point is 00:37:26 where AD says something that could potentially be taken out of context, I'm not going to allow it to make me upset and then go off on him publicly. You know what I mean? If anything, I would address it with him off cam or I would look at the full clip and be like, oh shit, he really ain't even say all that, you know? That's kind of like the flacco situation. I mean, I wasn't even going to say it. He squashed it with you earlier?
Starting point is 00:37:47 Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what happened. What was he mad at him? Just the stinky comments? No, it wasn't even just a stinky comment. He said that he felt like Lush has other motives. Like he's really this Dr. Evil-looking villain. He's here to destroy. I don't know what the- Destroy no jumper?
Starting point is 00:38:05 I don't know. No, no. I think that he felt like I was maliciously attacking him and trying to tear him down. And somebody in his discord had sent him a clip of me saying some shit. And he was like, damn. And it, you know, made him feel some type of way. But then when he's like, this morning, I guess he finally watched the entire clip.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Because I tried to reach out to him and smooth it over. And, like, he was kind of like not responding. He literally was running from you. Yeah, yeah. And then at a certain point, I'm like, you know what? Like, I did my part. I don't want to have this negativity with him. Because, yeah, Flacco's easy to make fun of.
Starting point is 00:38:42 and he truly did stank when I said that he stank, you feel me? Like, how was good? And I'm glad that we squashed this. Bush stands on his shit. Y'all know what the plan was. I was literally going to give him 50 different fucking sticks of deodorant, some Irish spring. And I'm Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:38:58 I was about to fund Ukraine. I was going to cut the check for the deodorant. Yeah. I told him I would just use them for the next couple of years. And I'm glad it didn't come to that point because he wound up hitting me this morning and was like, look, I saw something on my dead. discord. Somebody sent me a clip and then I wanted watching the entire clip and it wasn't
Starting point is 00:39:16 malicious because the reality is I've always publicly spoke on how valuable Flacco is. I feel like he's one of the most important people over here, his contributions. The fact that he has like a divisive nature with what he says it makes for great conversations on a podcast. He gets
Starting point is 00:39:32 the news and is up on the news especially the drama shit more than pretty much anybody. I 100%. And I respect him too because even today he's like yeah, I'm learning how to make my own thumbnails, and I'm trying to, you know, focus on making better thumbs for Photoshop and stuff too. So he really takes his job very serious and his craft and he keep doing what he doing. Aside for the messy shit, he's going to continue to be great.
Starting point is 00:39:55 I'm just very concerned with, like, elevating the conversation and the discourse and stuff. And, like, for instance, this morning we had a nice, long, healthy debate about affirmative action. And I thought it was a very interesting conversation. It's the kind of thing that if we get into it on the podcast, it would probably be good. And I just think that, that's like such a better use of our time to be having conversations about sort of high-minded shit or you know we could be talking about messy-ass rap shit i have nothing against that either but it's just like what i don't think is really a good use of our time is just talking about this dumbass insular shit and it's like other people i've been telling them on the chat too like i just
Starting point is 00:40:30 think a lot of people have a lot more potential than just talking about this boring as drama we just need more camaraderie you know what i'm saying even like the christmas event last year i felt like that bought everybody together more, and it need to be more activities that motherfuckers do with each other and shit like that. Because if we're just looking at this shit like, oh, that's just somebody I work with, you're never going to have the respect
Starting point is 00:40:52 to say something nice or whatever. You're going to speak your mind when you're at home or you're on your own platform or shit like that. Well, also like when me and you were the main ones debating this morning about affirmative action. Two white guys in a fucking pretty much exclusively black group chat of talking about affirmative action.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I was knock the fuck. out. There's a long week in. You have that feeling when you look at your phone and you see Melvin's room, 183 unread messages. Really? I'm like this. Affirmative action. But the thing is this, we're able to have those conversations
Starting point is 00:41:24 without personalizing it. Right. And that makes for healthy debate. As soon as it starts being like, there's name calling or you're getting on someone's helmet specifically, like that's when things go left every single time. And like, look,
Starting point is 00:41:39 I am sacrificing so much shit for this podcast as far as like I'm putting my entire personal life. There's very few things that I'm keeping private. You know what I mean? Like I'll count the amount of corns in my shit for the sake of content. Oh, I would love that. That would be great. Fill me in. How many kernels?
Starting point is 00:41:59 That's what I was like I go that far to the point where not my ex who I recently split up with, but my ex-wife who I had, um, y'all seen the, the clip where I'm talking about the LSD trip that she ruined and all that. She finally took a gander at that footage. And what did she say? You know, I'm kicking it yesterday. I'm at the Santa Fe Spring.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Swaping. You feel, me walking around, doing the damn thing. I get, she's blowing up my text talking about, like, you need to have this removed immediately. Like, I'm a stupid-ass cunt. And she's like going super hard, felt attack. She's like, how dare you talk about my autism when you're on the spectrum too? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:42:46 I'm like, bitch, you love fucking Harry Potter. Your finest fucking you love Harry Potter. Love on the spectrum. Yeah. Like you hell of, like. I love Harry Potter. No, no, but like, but this bitch is way too fine to be a part of Hufflepuff. You feel me like this bitch is fucking.
Starting point is 00:43:02 You know what I'm saying? She got beef with slither in. Like, it's, it's, oh, she's like into it like that. Entrenched. does like cosplay like yeah she ever trying to hit you with that wand my girl's like that too bro i was hitting her with the one on the regular she has a new cosplay but my girl's like fully in it they probably love each other i don't know about that your ex could try to convince my girl to leave me you know what you should you should just have her on plug talk fuck that bitch you feel me like
Starting point is 00:43:27 send me the ground that's literally like well it is your ex-wife for a reason yeah shoot the oaf fuck you but but here here's the thing bus of the ops she got she got so and at the end of the day We had a very contentious relationship. And a lot of it, 98% of it, all jokes aside, 98% of it and the dysfunction that we had was all caused by me, all caused by my addiction, all caused by my neglect, all caused by my ego. I'm totally to the point where when we were getting a divorce, even though I knew that she was kind of scannless for the last,
Starting point is 00:44:04 fuck cheating, this bitch had a whole relationship. Oh. A whole relationship. The same thing you just said that you did. Right. But she did it to you, which is fucked up. No, no. And like, I wasn't even mad because I had created such an unstable environment for her.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Right. And was like that like, you know, she was trying to get her citizenship all that. I could have been like, boink, you are fucking, you are back to Iceland or fucking Chechnya. This is not the French girl. No, no. This bitch is from Canada. You feel me? But that's the weird thing about being early in your life and you end up in a relationship with a girl.
Starting point is 00:44:38 but you're still young enough that even if you're really happy with the girl and even if you really like her and you can see yourself having a good thing with her to me it was always really hard to get into a relationship because i'm like i meet girls every day so it's like how am i going to really start building something with you when i kind of just know that a i'm not going to be faithful and b i just don't know what's out there like i always felt like i am not anywhere close to where i'm going to get to you know and it turns out that once i got to where i was going that i was going to just pretty much stay in the house but yeah but you're This is way too coherent of a thought for, like, somebody in active addiction that, like, literally is operating on their lowest common than... I'm, like, I was thinking, like, an iguana. I'm like, sex, food, food. Drugs, start. When you're on drugs, your mind is like that way more, yeah. Literally, I'm like a fucking, what are they... I'm like a gea monster.
Starting point is 00:45:29 You feel me? Like, I literally... You have the frying pan with the eggs. This is your brain on drugs. I remember looking at my phone when I was coming off Zanz. Like, the next day, I would look at my phone, like, during the time. here when I was coming off Zanz, and it would be like me hitting up every girl I'd ever known in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Like, sad situation. Like, somehow my brain felt like it could only be healed through vagina in that moment. Bro, I would make insane purchases. I would like, like, literally, I'm like on eBay buying fucking, like, D. Chor's light hat. Dior glasses, like, stupid at shit. Like, and it would, like, every day, there's packages coming to the crazy. To make yourself feel better.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yeah. And I'm like, yo, what the fuck? I'm like ordering shit. That's like the worst. See, I wish I had anything that I wanted to buy. It's just like, I have just nothing. The other day I tried to order a bunch of workout equipment and my card didn't work for some reason. And I just got frustrated and threw it across the room.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I mean, I'm up. We're out of the window. We're going down, y'all. Donates. Please donate. Yeah. Abandon shit. He's about to turn a liver king.
Starting point is 00:46:33 He's about to turn the liver king. He has his axe. I know it's just like my fucking. I was probably putting in the wrong zip code or something, but, uh, oh. So who usually does the purchases? Is it Josh or someone? The one of the one is telling my girl, hey, I won't buy this. She's like, I'll order it.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Yeah. So you really miss your family. Can't even buy no fucking gym shit. They can't even Uber eats without her. You're nothing without Lena. Yeah, I don't even know how to use Amazon. So easy. I just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Like, I used to order books on it, but I've never ordered anything besides books on Amazon. You literally, like, built an internet empire from scratch, but you can't order something on fucking Amazon. I always had a redacted or a Josh to be like, hey, order the, that. I don't know. It's just like never something I really got into. Like I used to order books on Amazon, but I never got past books. That's weird, right? I know they have everything. I do that now because I'm like, my girl would be like, oh, click on the keyless entry thing so they can open up the fucking garage and drop the packages off. I was like, I didn't even know you can have fucking have that shit. Yeah, like we have that kind of stuff and I don't know how you. There's an app
Starting point is 00:47:31 for my gate. Yeah, I got that. That's half the reason I hate being single. There's an app for the, for the temperature in my house. That's great. I don't use it. I walk over and I fucking turn the little knob. I don't use the app. I use the lights. I mean, it makes a lot of sense. I know I can play music through the speakers in my house. There's an app. Never downloaded it.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I don't know. What am I describing right here? What is this malfunction of my brain? My refusal to like engage with my own home in any way. That's exactly. The Alexa? I don't know. I never had it. But like what you're describing is like 80% of the reason I hate being single. Because you're an idiot and you won't figure all these things out. Yeah. Me, I don't want to wash clothes.
Starting point is 00:48:12 What do you mean? Yeah. Who the fuck watches clothes? Like, I'll buy new shit before then. Like, it's, I hate it. When my girl met me, I was buying my eggs at 7-Eleven. Yeah. Does that fucked up? That is fucking terrible. But they have eggs. They also have luncheables. Well, they don't have that many eggs. They'll usually have like three card and so I'll buy all of them. I'm not going to lie. And no offense to 7-Eleven. But every time I get the boiled eggs from 7-11, they taste
Starting point is 00:48:36 super acidic. The hard-boiled eggs? Yes. Who the fuck, first of all, eats hard-boiled eggs? From 7-11? No, the hard-boiled eggs are great. Nah, no, no. 100%. Brothers. Black Adam. That's just not tight.
Starting point is 00:48:51 You don't like hard-boiled eggs? Not really cool. With a little season and salt? I don't know, bro. It's like, that ain't really it. Aren't you Jewish? Why do you, what? I feel like they eat that. What is your idea of breakfast? First of all, like, what is this like allegations.
Starting point is 00:49:07 You're trying to like... Oh, you're not Jewish? No, I have like, like I said before, I have 25% Hebrew DNA. Jews do not claim me at all. But the Jews do, well, they don't claim anybody who ain't with their, like, their real shit.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Like, they're not like looking for people to claim, right? So by Jewish law, by Jewish law, it's whatever religion your mother is. My mother's Catholic, Italian. We're eating. So you have Jewish blood, but you are not a Jew. Right. You don't observe any traditions?
Starting point is 00:49:36 No, I got a circumcision, not a bar mitzvah. And my circumcision wasn't religious. Did you ever practice Hanukkah? No, I mean, like, I've been at Omi's houses and like... That would be fucking great to get presents. We always had a Yamika growing up. I feel like kids on Hanukkah, like, even though you get more presents, it's like more smaller presents.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Christmas, you're like falling out. Because you have to get them eight presents, so you can't get them any one big thing. Maybe one day you'll get something tight, but it's not really. all that. And for me, my birthday's a week before Christmas, so December... That sucks. No, it's dope. Mine's on Thanksgiving this year, just so you guys know. And also... You're a Saj, too, yeah?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Yeah, and mine is exactly a month before December, so I have this whole nice little holiday season, right? You should fucking talk about... Holiday season. Oh, my God, I fucking forgot to tell O.J. the Juice Man about Yuri fucking the Orange. Damn. And I also wanted to ask him if he'd everybody mistaken for O.J. Simpson.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Did you bring up short bus shorty to him? Yes. Thank you. God, all right. Thank you. What did he have to say about that? Not feeling it. I'm sure he was pissed.
Starting point is 00:50:40 He said people come up to him all the time singing the lyrics, thinking that it was him. Oh, man. Oh, man. Imagine your, Joe's a juice fan. Someone comes up to you. Short, but sure. No, that's disrespect. No, but I shouldn't even give this away.
Starting point is 00:50:54 But the fucking thing that, the reason why everybody has to watch it is because I said to him, I said, you know what? Like, when I'm listening to that song, he says the thing about him still getting Blumpkins. And O.J's like, what's a Blumpkin? You had to describe what a blumpkin was to OJ the Juice Man. I will spare everybody telling them exactly what he said, but it's worth watching just for the one moment of me explaining a blumpkin to OJ. Oh, cut. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Do one of those? A little bit. That energy. He said, aye. Hey! Hey! Yo, I would literally pay OJ. Juice Man to do a video with Kurt Mac.
Starting point is 00:51:26 That would be hilarious. Oh. I'm definitely here for that. But I got to, like, write the song. Not write the song, but like, I got to help out. I would love to write a record for Crip Mac. Are you fucking kidding? Well, we've seen what happens when he writes his own records.
Starting point is 00:51:39 They're pretty all over the place. Like, I think he needs a little bit of, like, somebody in his corner to say, like, hey. Let's keep it in line here. He's got to let Crip Mac just do his thing. Nah, we've seen what happens when he does his thing. Westin'am bubble bath. No, the one with him and D.W. Flame is hard. Shit was hard, car.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Rainy days, cah. I fucking love that song. But Cremack has such range. Like, when it comes to the, uh, the fried show. chicken a watermelon song or whatever the fuck that was. I love fried chicken. You like juice. I like beer.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Amazing. I still feel like if I had been able to like really, really get in there and manage him that I would have been able to make him a big rapper. I don't think he's doing it was a deal. I told him that he could sign a Gucci Man. That might be a little bit of false hope. You would want that responsibility? No, that's why I didn't because I don't want to be affiliated with anybody who's
Starting point is 00:52:28 putting out that kind of energy. But, you know, that's the homie. Right. having a business relationship. Have you seen the Mo3 documentary that Trapler Ross did? I got to watch that. His manager was getting his ass beat all over the place. Mo3's ops were catching him lacking and beating him up.
Starting point is 00:52:45 They had the video that before. They caught him mad times. I'm not trying to be on that type of time with Crick Mack. You were so going to get slid for that. Hell yeah. And Moe Three's manager was already doing a bunch of crazy shit on his own before he was even managing. What was he on? What's his name, Rainwater?
Starting point is 00:53:00 You know, there's a hilarious story about him getting fronted some money to like bust him to bust a move. As he said, do some street shit and running off on the dude's money. He got paid $1,000 to like bust some move. And he literally... His manager. Yeah. Because in the whole documentary, Mo 3 is like talking to the camera because Yellow Beesie beat him up at one point. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And there's a video with him like, I beat him up. I beat him up. I did him myself. Like he's fully claiming it. And Mothrew responded like, he's not a street dude, yada, yada, yada, yada. He went to high school. He went to college, yada, yada, you know. I love how going to high school makes you not a street dude.
Starting point is 00:53:39 He went to high school. They got different standards out there, I guess, you know? The South is wild. Let's keep it to stay. It's actually really crazy watching that and realizing how much content, say cheese, and all these other platforms did, and how I interviewed Mothuri and Yolabizi right in the middle of that shit. And I did talk about it, but I really didn't know about 90% of the shit that
Starting point is 00:53:59 seen in that fucking three-hour Trappolo-Ross video to be real with you. Ross is a goat. Let's keep it a stidna. Fully goaded. Yeah. And he can wrap his ass off? I just gave him the blessing. He said he's like, can I do a video where I talk about the, uh, the drama that I was
Starting point is 00:54:12 wrapped up in? And I had the whole conversation with him. Kind of like about what we just talked about, about the drama and everything and how I want to minimize it. But I'm also like, wait, he's going to make a whole video? Not like that. Not like that. I'm about saying.
Starting point is 00:54:23 That's amazing. I think it's a second channel thing. An hour and a half long deep dive. And no jumper. No. To yours. If I see the Traplor-Ross main channel upload with Yuri in the thumbnail? Oh, Lord.
Starting point is 00:54:33 No, but I told her, I'm like, tell your story, man, go for it. But, you know, for the hosts, we're trying to move. It's a little different at this point. See? It's what happens when out-of-towners come to L.A. They get into beef. Just ask Traplor Ross. Traplor Ross and Cripback probably would have face-to-face.
Starting point is 00:54:48 No, what we got to start doing is, we got to all-a-school way, Adam. It's my fella. Somebody gets into it. You take them out in the back of no jumper, have them beat the shit out of each other, shake hands and then they get back on camera and they're great. I don't think that
Starting point is 00:55:01 mutual combat is clearly like something that HR is going to allow here. Or fight to the death and the next one be the host. I like that. But then all of a sudden you become dominant about everybody and then Gina ends up dead in the street because she's the lowest one, right? It's unfair. I have to protect Gina.
Starting point is 00:55:17 We need to protect the Gina's. What are you wearing? No comment. I'm your boss. But Gina has a very interesting shirt. She's not wearing a shirt. She's not wearing a shirt. She just got a jacket on. Are there pasty stickers or something to keep that in place? Yeah. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I was about to say flaco, tackle her. I was about to call HR. Talk to Gina about her office. She's like Kelly Kapoor. Not her. Huh? Who's HR? Josh.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Human relations. Josh. Good look. Human resources. Resources. There is. I can dress like this on talent day. But is this a costume?
Starting point is 00:55:50 Yeah. Who are you trying to look like? Beyonce? Did you? Did y'all see her costume as Maya and King magazine? I did not. Brah. I have a filter on Gina's Instagram, so I don't see any of the sexy picks.
Starting point is 00:56:05 You're a damn lie. They're all muted. Well, you fucking, they tag both of y'all over the post. They tag me? I haven't seen. I have it on Instagram. That's how strongly I have your sexy post muted, because they don't even show my feed. I can't see the tags.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Nothing. Stick to Gina. Stay away from my fucking sister. I'm going to just say it like this. I'm going to just say it like this. I didn't see it either. You feel me? I didn't see it either.
Starting point is 00:56:31 We respect you so much. A.D. sent one of his sister's TikToks. I immediately follow her. Within like 30 seconds, AD sends me a screenshot of her to him saying, look, I don't follow him. Like, instantly. I mean, I like her. She was cool.
Starting point is 00:56:47 We hung out with her backstage of the show. You've been talking about it a little too much. It's only like the second time. We're too close. If you offer my sister plug talk. I just want to follow her TikTok. I have to literally whoop your eyes. I would never offer anybody plug talk.
Starting point is 00:56:59 was not already an adult star. So unless you want to tell me something, it shouldn't be an issue. Stick to TikTok, sister. Booty Talk number 38? What's that? You remember Booty Talk? Was that a Brian Pumper film?
Starting point is 00:57:11 It was an incredible series of Booties. Sisters back in the day. That's what you beat off to? I'm not going to say it hasn't happened. What do you start when you beat off? I go through phases of different actresses that I tend to. You got some faves?
Starting point is 00:57:28 I wouldn't air it. it out if I were you. No plug talk? I've never jerked off to plug talk. I'm not saying, it's just kind of weird if I, like, dude, I've something fucking really disturbing happened one time with me discovering one of my homies doing porn.
Starting point is 00:57:43 And like, and after that, like, so, oh man, all right, fuck it. What battle rapper was it? All right, fuck it. I'm not going to say who it was, but I had heard rumors about my homie doing porn.
Starting point is 00:57:59 but I didn't really think about it and one day this is when I was with my ex-wife that I'm no longer with not my recent yeah the ex-wife and I was doing it she was like at her waitressing job
Starting point is 00:58:14 and I was doing a lot of cocaine and like my ritual at this night was do a line smoke a bong load of weed with coke on top of it jerk off rinse repeat and I was like
Starting point is 00:58:27 this is like I had already done it like six times and I'm watching a bunch of porn. And at that time, like, my favorite search, like my keywords, I'm into keywords. My keyword at the time was blowjob sluts, all right? Wow. Yeah, it's nothing wrong with that, right? Yeah, blow job sluts, okay?
Starting point is 00:58:49 And so let's just say I had already been through the entire first page, second, third, fourth, fifth, Google is the best place to look up porn, by the way. Because if you Google it, then it pops up Pornhub, Ujiz, all the different things. So you can just press video time. You reach this point where you realize that the actresses that you like, that there's different videos on all these different sites. And then at a certain point, you're looking at some bootleg-ass sites. We've got to click out of 80 ads.
Starting point is 00:59:15 And then all of a sudden you're coping the only fans and you're spending 20 bucks in the DMs. I have yet to cop and only fans to keep it as full stinnack with you. But I'm not saying I'm above it. I'm probably in. No comment. But anyways. Blow Job Sluts, I'm on like the 15th page. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I'll just say there's a video, and I'm not going to get into the intricacies of it, that was along the lines of blowjob sluts, but a little bit more involved. And I'm watching it. I'm jerking off to it. And then I'm like, okay, let's see the next one in the series. Click the next one. I heard a voice that sounded very familiar in the first one, and it was POV. So I'm not really like
Starting point is 00:59:57 I'm not really tripping super hard This is how you realized it was your friend? No no I realized it was my friend Because all of a sudden And the chicken this one was bad I was like okay like we on to something here And then you know She's like blowing one dude
Starting point is 01:00:15 And then the other dude runs from behind the camera Goes to eat her ass And then dick swinging in the wind It's my homie's face buried in this bitch's ass I'm like midstroke like 80% to orgasm and I was like ooh my shit said do you get him up immediately
Starting point is 01:00:34 no I just like told a bunch of our friends just talked about it then I let him know he's one of my best friends Did you go to the next page? No no I couldn't do it anymore I couldn't do it I mean what else are you going to do? I did revisit it like a year later
Starting point is 01:00:49 and then yeah it was cool to check out his moves no not just because I liked the chick that was in it so and you decided that now you didn't care I didn't care at that moment. You beat off dry. What do you mean? Like without lotion?
Starting point is 01:01:00 Yeah. Yeah, I don't need lotion. Same. Yeah, I don't need lotion. What about you? No, no lotion. Nice. But, you know, on, um, so talking about this on disconnected, they made, they made me feel like,
Starting point is 01:01:13 like I was a heathen because I play with my balls when I jerk off. Like, I don't really, that's not that crazy, right? I've heard a lot of guys do it, though. I don't really like get into it. You know fucking freak, I used to, like, hold them. Nud-ass freak bull. I used to kind of hold them. Get a grip on it?
Starting point is 01:01:26 That's what I'm saying. I'm not tickling them. I'll go the extra mile. I got sensitive balls, though. Me too. Do you? I like my nuts. I'll keep that in mind.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Licked is good, but suck when the girls go to start. No, no, no. The porn star girls? If it's too hard? They think that's cool. No, no. If it's too hard, that shit hurts. Yeah, yeah, I don't like that.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Tongue. Popping it out of their mouth. Like, they just like suck it. Pull it out as far as you can bring in your body. I got a BMX injury. I smack my nuts too hard. I'm not into that. That's not good.
Starting point is 01:01:55 My girl also talked to, or I'll tell them before we do every scene, I'm like, you know, my nuts are sensitive. Yeah, I think that's like normal. No, my shit's more sensitive. I got hitting that shit. I was nut in blood. See, that's what I'm saying. The sacrifices that we go through for our passions. To be men.
Starting point is 01:02:12 You know what I'm saying? You would have been on a scar, remember that show? Yo, there was a period of like five years where if you rode BMX bikes every day, it would just be people coming up to you on the street like, you're trying to be on scard. And it's like, no, I'm trying to do this. trick and not end up on scarred like literally me ending up on scarred is worst case scenario here you fucking asshole that i've seen god about that shit on there i know a bunch of homies are on there to pay you like 200 bucks to be on there yeah that sucks terrible but they i thought that it was just like compiled footage of accidents there they encourage you to actually do no it's just like bmxers and
Starting point is 01:02:45 skaters like they would just hit you up and be like oh we're trying to pay 400 bucks for this fucking footage of you've fallen off a roof or whatever on your bike you know yeah it's a rough way to make a living should have with the jackass That was before. That was probably when they thought that they had to pay more money for that kind of footage. But they just nickel and dime you so hard for any footage that they try to buy off you. But that's the industry back then anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Because I just seemed like, I forgot her name, but she was in an original house party movie. It's a legendary movie. Tisha Campbell? Not Tisha Campbell. The other one. The other one. She only got $4,000 for that movie. I was like, damn.
Starting point is 01:03:20 I thought, didn't Chris Rock get like 10 racks for Friday? Oh, no, Chris Tucker. Chris Tucker got like. 10 G's for Friday. But for small movie rolls, that's pretty normal, I think, to get not paid that much. Yeah, no, it's a small indie movie. I mean, they didn't know at the time that these movies were going to be iconic and classic. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:37 But that's kind of, you know, fucked up when you think about it. Well, but a lot of people just agree to work for cheap on movies just because they want to get it made, you know? Yeah, but it was, it wound up getting distributed, I think, by New Line Cinema. So it's not like the biggest movie house, but it's still like a, you know, legitimate institution. Right. So you guys think Bluefaves beat Christa up or what? I think they're fucking toxic and they go through all type of shit. And I know what happens when that liquor is involved. Motherfuck is black out.
Starting point is 01:04:08 So this is how the scenario goes. She posts on her story and basically said that Blue Face beat the dog shit out of her yada, yada, yada, and it has like a bust set up face and everything. And like, I think that you could even hear in the video of him telling her like nobody gives a fuck, shut up. Your lips are only good for sucking dick. but then like uh but then it comes out later she makes another video announcing actually i threw myself out of a fucking moving car and that's why my face got all fucked up and everything like that so it's like both situations seem possible like i definitely i guess could see him like getting into a physical fight with her and then that just being how it went and i also could see her throwing herself
Starting point is 01:04:49 out of a car and then lying about it and saying that he beat her up when he didn't i could really either see both of those. Yeah, but that's like... Some drunk shit. That's like the cliche abuse victim thing to say like, no, no, I got this black guy from falling down the stairs. But let's be real. You can't play that abuse victim thing when you're openly on camera, socking this nigga
Starting point is 01:05:07 multiple times. I feel less sympathy for her if she actually is a victim of domestic abuse here that I feel for almost any other woman in the same situation because it's just so obvious that this is a toxic relationship. This is why I never had any strong feelings about the Johnny Depp thing. Like you seem like you were
Starting point is 01:05:23 both fucked up people in a relationship, abusing each other and hurting each other. And it's hard for me to really, like, look at this guy as a monster when it seems like you both get down this way. Like Blueface and Chrishan, obviously them laying their hands on each other is not a part of the relationship.
Starting point is 01:05:39 It's not enough for them to walk away from the relationship. If I laid my hands on my girl one time, I guarantee that either we're breaking up or we're in fucking therapy the next week because realistically she's just not going to deal with that. They're in a different type of relationship. I have a really hard time looking at him as a monster or thinking like, I've seen a really viral tweet of people saying,
Starting point is 01:05:57 oh, the TV show that they're doing shouldn't come out because this is glorifying abusive relationships. That might be fair, but don't put it on him. They're going to watch it. But as soon as somebody sits on the bed, it's over, take it from Johnny Jeff. You know what I'm saying? No, but on some real shit, it's like,
Starting point is 01:06:12 we're seeing the bad effects of this fucking relationship happening in real time. And if it continues like this, it's not going to end well. Right. And I don't think that this show is going to restore any hope in the relationship that I've already not had. Yeah. But I'm going to watch it.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Man, people are getting canceled for a lot less. But at this point, considering the nature of Blueface's fan base, is he even cancelable? Like, is it going to really affect him to that degree? No, I don't think so. I don't even think. He's not even moving around as if that's a possibility. Because, okay, at one point, The Daily Beast put out this whole article about Blueface's house and his reality show and about how the girls are. eating each other up and about how
Starting point is 01:06:53 terrible it was and how the girls are getting hurt, whatever, basically a huge effort to cancel him. A, you had to pay to access this on their site, so I never read it, but B, you never heard a fucking whisper about it, right? I never heard shit about this. They're just, he exists in his own world. He's doing his
Starting point is 01:07:09 own thing. I don't think. There's nobody to tell him that he's not allowed to be in a domestic abusive relationship. If you're not like super corporate, you don't have to worry about some things in today's times. But even then, he had that boxing match, which is not like the most corporate thing. And that shit got taken away just because of him getting into a fight where you actually did see him being abusive. I guess you could say to her,
Starting point is 01:07:31 you know, that was enough to get him removed for that boxing match, which is not the most corporate thing. I don't know. They probably had some corporate sponsors. Maybe we wanted them pulled from it. I'm not sure how quick they were to make that decision. Because if I'm doing a boxing match and Blueface gets in a fight with this girl beforehand, fucking whatever, bro. I already knew this was your image before you got into this that you guys be doing that, right? but you know when today's times that everything's so cancelable, cancelable, you don't even, I can see my fuckers like, we don't even want to associate ourselves with that
Starting point is 01:08:00 because so many people get offended and you don't know who you're going to offend and what the ramifications of that shit is going to be. And people, like, people get triggered by it. Yeah, for sure. And it's a rat. Like, the thing is, though. Who knows how much pressure they had on them?
Starting point is 01:08:12 It's, you know, even if you're a perpetrator of abuse, that doesn't mean that you can't be a victim as well. Right. So even if she is, responsible for her part of it. Like you said, it's just an overall toxic situation. I would love to see Blueface in the place in his life that he could
Starting point is 01:08:29 be in a nice, boring relationship where he doesn't have to be involved with this kind of crazy shit. But, I mean, he keeps coming back to it. Why? I don't know. The first, like, the first couple times that I said anything bad about her on camera, I felt like, oh, man, I'm going to see Blueface and he's going to know that I said this. At this point, it's just
Starting point is 01:08:45 like, we've, like, dismissed to their relationship and talked about how it was bad for so many times when we thought that he was actually done with her. Was she at the house when we went there? That was the first thing that happened. Remember, I walked in and I said something about her tooth. Oh, yeah. And then she said she was going to fuck me up right away. And then right away, somebody from Buffet's crew had to basically tell her like, nah, like, don't say that to him or some shit because she was wiling right away. I forgot. That's for sure before he was
Starting point is 01:09:09 even fucking with her, like sexually or anything. Because he denied forever that he was hooking up with her. At what point when, like how many tattoos of you would have, would a bitch have to get before you're like disgusted by her. I'm not going to be disgusted. I'm like, well, at least I know that you're down for me. If my girl got my face tattooed on the throat, I would be looking at her like the biggest idiot walking the face of the planet. What the hell are you thinking?
Starting point is 01:09:33 Look at two more. That's like you don't, you wouldn't get turned off at a certain point. It depends. The fighting shit, I'm not with that stuff. So that, that'd have been the end of me. Well, what about just a little AD tattoo? I mean, that's cute. A little AD tattoo.
Starting point is 01:09:46 A little cute tattoo I could see. I personally, I forbid my girl from getting tattoos when I got. I'm like, you just don't do it, please. Don't try to be like me. You don't got Lennon nowhere on you? No. You don't plan on it? I've thought about it.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Bro, I have a graveyard of fucking bitch's names like all over my body. My first babe mama was the only woman I got tatted. Why you got a death metal hoodie on? We got this in a... You look like you're at a cannibal corpse concert? We got this in Boston. Oh, that says laced, right?
Starting point is 01:10:14 Oh, yeah. I forget that just... Everybody's merch looks like Cannibal corpse merch these days. No, but I have my first baby mom his name on me and it's replaced with the Batman logo now. You should get your iPod covered up with iPhone. 14. Damn. Then it's going to be old
Starting point is 01:10:29 back then, so I'm not to switch it again. Nah, that's the originator. And think about it like this. The term podcast comes from iPod, right? You feel me? Like, that's the point. Come on. The phone doesn't even look like anything at this point. It just looks
Starting point is 01:10:44 the same as it's looked for like seven years. I mean, the thing in the middle is different. Yeah, because it's black and has a dial. He has like a colored iPod too. Damn. That's harsh. But yeah, I mean, I don't know. The blues face thing, it's just like at this point, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Myself personally, I've totally checked out on paying attention to this besides when it spills over into the blogs when there's like a big messy update. I'm not going to watch the show realistically unless it's like so popular that I just have to. I think it's on the Zeus network. So I think that's why that they basically are not willing to get canceled because probably the Zeus network doesn't have to answer to as many. higher up says like fucking HBO crazyest shows now
Starting point is 01:11:25 really like reality show shit yeah really they got the badie south they got the um the one with the gay guys they'll be fighting and shit they got it's just like the wild is ratchetish
Starting point is 01:11:38 basically bad girls club walked so these shows could fly basically did you know that Fubu has their own television network now as well I did not know that for us bias are you thinking of two B no I'm not Because Fubu was tagging me on Instagram being like, look at Adam in this clip, realizing the Fubu has a network.
Starting point is 01:11:56 That's crazy. I forget who told me about it. That's far as. I was ruffling feathers in the Fubu back in the day. I didn't even go hold you. You were rocking Fubu. What? Well, one day, Yuri came in wearing Fubu, and he didn't know what it stood for.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Yes. Even before then, I was getting in, like, I was getting pressed in high school. Y'all probably don't remember Mecca USA. You remember Mecca USA? Yeah. I had the, which is, you know, you're not supposed to wear it if you're white, apparently. And, like, I had the, I had the jacket that L.L. Cool Jay had in the Hey, Hey, Lover video. And I wore that. And then I got fucking pressed over that shit.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Bro, that was a wild era where, like, all the rappers' brands is what everybody wore. I feel like we're getting back to that, hopefully. No, it was. Probably not. But I feel like we should get back to that. It was crazy, though, because you had, like, Fat Farm, you had Vocal. You had G-Unit. Well, like, and to be honest.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Johnny Blaze. Rockware. Sean John. Yeah, that was the great, the greatest era. Now everybody rocking Balenciaga and Dior and shit. It's like, why y'all walking fashion shit from the mall? That's what I'm saying. That's one thing.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Bitches look bad in baby fat. One thing I never understood about hip-hop is like, how the fuck are these people? They clearly understand the value of supporting their own people, but they won't do it when it comes to clothes. I don't get that. It's a status. Black people are not listening to people make music of other. ethnicities. They mostly listen to people that come from their types of backgrounds, right? But why they buy clothes, they come from these expensive-ass Italian leather designers and shit.
Starting point is 01:13:28 I just never got that. What's the last piece of merch that you bought? Probably when we went to Boston together. I bought some fucking Nikes and some, I bought a palace hoodie. Merch? I mean, like, for an artist. Damn, it's been a fat minute. I think, like, I didn't mean to, it was like, I'll buy, like, vintage merch. You know what I mean? Like, I bought, like, a push of tea. shirt like straight after the clips air recently at a thrift shop. I respect that.
Starting point is 01:13:55 I respect people wearing stuff that pertains to their interests. And that's why it annoys me the other day I was playing poker with a fool. And I know I mean, he's cool. He's a fucking Asian crypto multi-hundred millionaire apparently, you know? And so like he rocks all designer. He don't know what the fuck he's wearing. His English is not great. He comes in rocking a shirt, a Louis Vuitton shirt that says do a kickflip on the front.
Starting point is 01:14:17 I go, hey, do you do a kickflip? he goes, what's a kickflip? I go, your shirt says do a kickflip on it. He goes, oh. Brother fool and no kung fu. He's going to kick and flip you over, dog. What the fuck? He could buy and sell my entire existence.
Starting point is 01:14:32 But this fucking dude, like, I mean, he's just rocking it. Like, you don't fucking care. Like, it means nothing to him. The same way that an American would rock a shirt with some Chinese characters on it and not know what it means and not think twice about it. I don't know what they mean. Yeah, it means. You speak Chinese?
Starting point is 01:14:46 No, it's anime. I've watched so much anime, I speak Chinese now. I wasn't about the temple, but that would be considered a racist or no. Yeah, that shit says, like, stupid American cocksucker. I remember when I first went to Thailand when I was 19, and I seen little Thai kids just rocking Hitler shirts, Osama bin Laden, Swazikas. I don't know, apparently just...
Starting point is 01:15:12 You felt at home, huh? They just thought it was normal, I guess. Like, to them, it's like they're not thinking about the, meaning of what the shirt is. It's just an iconic image. The same way that people wear the Che Guevara shirt and they don't know what the fuck he did. It's just, I guess the Hitler shirt's kind of went in that category. Although I kind of feel like if you were to go to Bangkok right now, you wouldn't see that. At which point in somebody's life when they're an adult, does it become creepy if they go to Thailand? If they're not with a significant other. I went there on a BMX
Starting point is 01:15:44 trip and there was not a lot to ride BMX on. It was pretty miserable trip. I'm saying people, you know why motherfuckers are going to Thailand. No, yeah, for sure. Definitely I've had a lot of people say that when I hear that. Yeah. No, I mean, I went to a strip club with the homies and I seen a girl smoke a cigarette out of her vagina. That was like the first strip club I ever went to. Yeah, you know. That made a pretty serious impact on me. All right. I'm booking my flight. I'm sold. And she comes out. One of the chicks comes out and she had like a neon green like strand, like a whole spool. She's like pulling the super long green neon glow in the dark string out of her vagina. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:20 I grew up quick out there in Thailand, but I didn't, I didn't. Oh, no, I hooked up with some girls. She gave me head with a condom on. Yeah, but like the thing is... I met her in a Burger King. She had just had a motorcycle accident. She had like a scab on her knee. I think that was a prostitute.
Starting point is 01:16:32 No, I didn't pay her. No, she was a prostitute, but I didn't pay her. She just weird just kicking it. You ran off on the plug twice? No, she just wasn't trying to... Ran off on a club. She was just fucking with me enough to give me head through the condom, but she wasn't expecting money in exchange,
Starting point is 01:16:44 which was pretty nice of her. Doing God's work. And I got picked up by an elephant. Okay. I'll never forget that. I'll never forget that. That I think was earlier in the trip. Dumbull just busts through the room and you jump on his back and you guys fly out.
Starting point is 01:16:59 There were these girls we were kicking it with and they had these little motor scooters right. And I'm scared of motorcycles and motor scooters. I refuse to drive one, right? So I sit on the back. This girl literally probably was 100 pounds and I'm on the back of her little motor scooter thing. And she's blasting down the fucking highway, super busy-ass streets and shit. and we go to this gun range. And I didn't shoot any of the guns,
Starting point is 01:17:22 but they had an elephant chilling at the entry to the gun range, and you could, like, get picked up by the elephant, and they would take pictures of you. So he wraps his fucking snout around me and just picks me up in there. What is it, a trunk? It's not a snout. Trunk. Pig has a snout.
Starting point is 01:17:36 They, like, damn near as smart as us, I think. Like, elephants are a hell of advanced creatures. Dude, that was the fucking craziest trip. I drank snake blood. How was that? I had to go home and take a nap, made me feel fucked up. They take the snake.
Starting point is 01:17:49 and then just take a knife and just just right down the snake's body slit it and the blood just pours into this fucking cup and then I just drank it took a shot of that snake blood free condom head motorcycle ride through the city elephant lift and snake blood
Starting point is 01:18:07 damn Thailand I called it a boring trip it sounds cool when you put it like that yeah you feel me I'm gonna be real with the other Bangkok stunk yeah I hope it's not that bad still man it's fucking hard walking around out there. Thai food is fire, though. A lot of it.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Thai food is amazing. The food out there is very different than what you're thinking of Thai food here. I heard a lot of people get sick because they can't handle it. I've seen a cart of all, like, just a guy selling all these, like, pieces of meat and all this different food and stuff, and there was just a deep fried frog, like a couple of them, like just deep fried fully. Kind of looked like a chicken breast from Popeyes, but it was a frog. See, there's his best, best food show ever I watch on fucking YouTube, and he always
Starting point is 01:18:49 stays in Thailand. I see him eat some crazy shit, too. He's probably into some other weird shit too. He's a very popular YouTuber though. He always wears a red bandana. I try watching the... Oh, that guy. I know you're talking about... He's a blood. Oh, yeah, you are a Crip, huh? I'm not a Crip. Anymore?
Starting point is 01:19:05 I function with the Crips, though. You're a BG knockout? You renounced your Cripping? No, I function with the Crips. I never was... Like, we function with them. I never watched the clip of Falaco calling you out. Nah, I... He just... Because he hates his guts? No, No, he said like, I mean, like, oh, he said what I was or whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Like, I don't deny where I'm from. Tomorrow when I'm playing poker on stream, maybe I'll review some lush battles and music videos. Ooh, let him know. Come on. Come on. Check me out on Twitch, guys. I reviewed the new Long Beach Griffey podcast. It's not even out yet.
Starting point is 01:19:38 I watched it yesterday while I was streaming. Oh. You've been on Twitch a lot more. Because I don't have a family. My family left me. All of a sudden, I'm a gamer. Does Twitch and YouTube have beef? Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Is that like... Well, I mean, the situation is that Twitch is basically like having a really hard time financially. So they're basically just doing all this goofy-ass shit to make more money, like guaranteeing streamers amounts of money to play eight minutes worth of ads every single hour and all this kind of shit. I was the one that was into that shit too. You did that for a minute? What? Because, I mean, you don't get shit. with ads on here.
Starting point is 01:20:19 So they say we'll give you this amount like $1,400 guaranteed ads. Like, yeah, why not? See, when I saw Ludwig made a video talking about, he's talking about some of his friends getting offered 2040K a month. So like amounts to that would be like really hard to say no to. But that's also probably bigger streamers. And that's people who stream like 50 hours a week too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:37 But either way, like YouTube now is getting a lot better with the features and like now you can, you can have memberships and like. Handles. They're just really like doing everything they can to come for Twitch's throne. The thing for me with Twitch, the reason why I like it is just because I can sit there and I can watch somebody's podcast or I can listen to some music and I'm not going to get in trouble. This fucking channel has a strike warning on it because I was streaming poker one day and I forgot that I was streaming on YouTube and it was when a new Tyler the Creator album came out. So I was just listening to it. I listened to like four or five songs in a row.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Boom, our channel is a fucking strike warning. That's crazy. But YouTube was about to have it to where that's not going to happen anymore. Really? That's what I've been here. I didn't know that. Yeah. I mean, you would figure the content ID system would just recognize it and then it would get monetized to who owns that.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Well, you know, they were saying basically the artist, it was a big thing like a month ago where they're saying basically everybody's going to get a piece of the shit. But I still think it might be different for live streaming where it's like if I upload a video, that's like if I upload a video and it has a Tyler the Creator's song in it, Tyler Creator will get like 80% and I get a chunk of it. I feel like it's different with live streaming because what they're trying to eliminate is people make. making channels where they just play people's albums in their entirety and that basically makes Tyler the creator lose money, you know? But you could do reactions though, right? Like, can't you do live reactions and shit? Like on YouTube, it's very mixy. Be careful.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Yeah. Really? It's weird, yeah. It's because you'll see a lot of streamers, I mean, like, you have somebody like DJ Ghost who will sit there. He can review something or academics to review something. I'm pretty sure he don't get strike. He can monetize it. It's like, then you do it.
Starting point is 01:22:16 And it's like, oh, you can't do it. I'm paranoid about uploading that clip of you and OJ Juice Man to TikTok because he's holding a blunt. I don't even think it's lit, but he is holding a blunt. And it's like, it's so funny the way you start rapping his song to him, and then he starts wrapping it back to you
Starting point is 01:22:31 and you and OJ the Juice Man are just vibing so hard. And I want to put it on TikTok, but I think I might send it to Boston Ova and be like, hey, blur this blunt. Yeah, blur the blunt. Unlit blunt. Shout out to YouTube. Shout out YouTube. I just got a rip. I'm very excited about
Starting point is 01:22:47 YouTube just because they're monetizing the shorts and I want to see what that's like. That's going to change everything. Even with these handles they have now, that's going to open more doors as well too. But that's in direct competition with TikTok essentially. That's like their response to TikTok. But then TikTok like two weeks after YouTube announced that, they said, ah, fuck it, we're doing the same thing. We're giving half of the money from your TikTok. So we'll see who actually pays more.
Starting point is 01:23:11 But the fact that this is now something that's going to be able to be a real business for people, like think about how many people in the hood are wherever on TikTok are just going to be able to all of a sudden have a couple hundred bucks or however who knows what the money might look like my fucking dad you're doing your dad has 1.6 million or some shit saying the fact that he's doing T-Mobile ads and shit now I'm like off of this shit is fucking wild it's amazing yeah but how the fuck does he get that kind of gig he has his ways is all I'm gonna say hook me up Armand no wait Roro Roro Douglass your dad
Starting point is 01:23:47 Oh, okay. I didn't know what you were saying. Rory. Don't call my dad Roro. What can't call him Roro? It's like a female name. No, Roro is cool. No, but a lot of...
Starting point is 01:23:55 If you got a homie name Rory, you can call him Roro. Note. No, but a lot of motherfuckers like... Just don't call them Rory. I respect, like, even with the deal I got with caffeine, they were like, we can't compete with YouTube. Stick to YouTube, do your shit on YouTube and stuff like that. You know, it's the other people that they're like,
Starting point is 01:24:14 all right, we're going to try it to a... You know what I'm saying? and attack and do all the extra shit. So, I mean, if I think about it, I watch more YouTube than I do watch regular television. Yeah. It's too open. And how long YouTube been out for now?
Starting point is 01:24:28 Since 2005. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's been such a big part of how we digest content now. It's like, it's not going to where. So anybody thinks that they're going to be able to compete with YouTube. And I have stated this theory before, but I'm just going to say it again.
Starting point is 01:24:41 When we talk about the reason why music isn't sound the same way it used to, I think it is an underrated fact that somebody like AD who is a pretty like he's not you know you're not somebody who is spending every second of your time watching YouTube in 2010 or 11 like me you but this is the times have changed 2022 you're a guy who you know 10 years ago you might have spent a lot more time watching TV you probably would have spent a lot more time listening to music and now you're telling me that you get in the car and you're listening to a podcast more than half the time as opposed to
Starting point is 01:25:11 music that to me is just a lot less music people are listening to and I'm not saying it's the only that hip-hop streams are down, but I do think that like when Spotify says that 20% of their streams or some shit are our podcast now, I mean, a part of that is taking away from music sales. No, 1,000. And then two, I just feel like there isn't a lot of
Starting point is 01:25:32 excitement in hip-hop right now that it needs to be like, it's been a dry spill year. Like other than Gloria coming out with F&F, I felt like that was the one anthem that like, okay, everybody, like, it kind of brought fun to the industry and there's not a lot of fun right now. It's a lot of running shit right now.
Starting point is 01:25:48 It's kind of a ghost town. It's like a lot of music is made right now. It's not nothing to be, you know, it's only certain artists now that I feel like 9 o'clock comes. I want to listen to their shit. I got very few on my list these days. Let me be real with you. Like in 2016 and 2017, if you were to ask me, like, who are the new rappers that are coming out that you're excited about? I would have a whole list.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Every different month I would have a different list. And now I don't know what the fuck I would say. I was just saying the, I was talking. to Jason earlier. He was like, what's the last rapper you were super juiced about? And honestly, it was Rio. Like, since Rio, there hasn't been anyone that made me that excited as to where I just
Starting point is 01:26:26 want to consume all their content, learn everything about them, do a deep dive. Well, his music is so saturated because it's like, how to fuck can we even keep up with so many fucking albums drop every fucking week? Rico Trap. Who's that?
Starting point is 01:26:40 Rico Trap. That's what you into right now? Whoops. This is all I got to say, this point. It's my birthday. Bitch, why you show your pussy You're not the asshole Oh, here, Barton. This is your hor.
Starting point is 01:26:54 It's my birthday. It's my birthday. You would have known that if you love me in the first place. You don't even love yourself? No, you don't. You thought you was off the hook, I'm about to reel you in. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Yeah, he's tweaking. I'm gonna sign him. He has that on, is that on like DSPs? How he thought this much? motherfucker got 1.7 million on TikTok. I never heard of them until this clip went started going viral. Shab-boing, moing. And you know what's crazy
Starting point is 01:27:22 is I think it was the first month where this changed. Like, Spotify was the streaming service that had the most revenue. It was generating the most revenue for artists up until it was, I want to say, July or 8, it was actually a little sooner. It was like April of this year.
Starting point is 01:27:37 But I saw a first month that TikTok generated more revenue than Spotify. I saw a video from a dude saying that he makes, that you make way more money as an artist from Spotify than from Apple Music or no no from Apple Music than from Spotify
Starting point is 01:27:51 and I think it's because Spotify has the free tier Well also yeah Anything that has the more streams Like the more accessible it is The less money you make But so And I guess you make less if you're on playlist
Starting point is 01:28:02 No That's not true Like a playlist view is gonna earn you Less money on average You don't think so That's what this guy That's what I was kind of getting from it Because
Starting point is 01:28:10 You actually get more Because them curated playlist Like you're guaranteed to get a certain amount of streams that you wouldn't get otherwise to be in on there. The value of the stream is determined by the country that it comes from and their currency. Like if you're huge in fucking Brazil or something that doesn't have as many advertisers bidding on that ad inventory, it's going to be worth way less. If you're in fucking Russia where the economy is collapsed to shit, you know, you could be super popular out there
Starting point is 01:28:39 and it's not going to be bringing as much money. Same thing on YouTube. A thousand streams in Russia is like one in America. And what's also just to further strengthen what your point was, not only our podcast becoming increasingly popular, but YouTube for the past several years has been the most frequently place where people stream music. People are literally going to YouTube
Starting point is 01:29:01 to listen to music more than Apple Music, more than Spotify. What's the first thing that anybody does? When you hear about our artists or a new song, you go to see if there's a video there. And if it's a video there, you're going to consume it right there. And then even the topic video, even the topic video, which is what's generated through digital streaming platforms, people are going to go click on that. I was thinking about this one. I was talking to OJ.
Starting point is 01:29:23 Juice Man is like, for that moment in time, OJ. Juice Man was basically like a little baby, you know, or like Gucci was really. But, like, you know, he was sort of like, he was like the new cool Atlanta artist at that moment. But it was so much harder to monetize your existence of that time. Like he said that the most he ever got for club performances and shit was like 15K. and that people like really told them like don't ask for more than that don't ask for more than that you know like because you don't want like them to catch feelings or whatever or feel like you're you're priced out on on working with them and it's like now when you see how big rap is it's like a totally different thing and all during there was this like dark era of music like late 2000s and like early 2010s where it was just really hard to monetize music and you've seen a lot of artists who came out and like didn't really they weren't really able to build like the kind of business. out of their shit that people are able to now. I feel like a lot of that changed with like whiz.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Like he was one of the one of the dudes that ushered in the new era. And what's tight about OJ, that was like the era of trap music prior to the Migos, prior to future and all those dudes popping off when it was like, it felt extra authentic. And the whole folklore around guys. Yeah, and Scooter. Now I was going to say in the folklore around OJ and Scooter was these dudes don't even really give a fuck about music because they're making so much.
Starting point is 01:30:43 money off the streets that this is just a secondary source of income for them and they're not even really tripping like that. Yo, OJ told me some wild street stories. I'm sure he did. Crazy shootout stories that I'm like, I can't believe you even telling me this. It's like crazy shootout stories. Doesn't sound like anybody got arrested for it or like the cops even came and I'm just like what the fuck dude.
Starting point is 01:31:02 People forget he was on the double XL list too. With Nipsey, Wiz and Jay Cole. Yeah. Wasn't Jay Rock on there too? I think maybe, but it was one of those like flip out covers. They go my guy, Michael Fack Checker. I think the main cover, though, was J. Cole, Wiz, Nipsey, and O.J. Yeah, that's a crazy.
Starting point is 01:31:20 That's insane. Yeah, I don't know. Okay, so I just recently saw this right before I came in here, as a post that went up. Apparently, there's been a lot of really significant changes in the wealth of the top hip-hop personalities. So, and this is coming from Rolling Stone. Diddy up the skull, right? fucking burner. We can assume that Rolling Stone has a lot
Starting point is 01:31:45 of reason to try to be honest about this. So, Jay-Z, number one, $1.5 billion. Diddy, and obviously this is approximate, and a lot of these people would say that this is going to be different, whatever, but Diddy, $1 billion. Kanye West, $500 million,
Starting point is 01:32:01 so it would have dropped very significantly since the recent calamity. And then burner is now said to be worth $410 million and then finally Dr. Dre is in fifth at $400 million. Now I thought that Dr. Dre was worth more than that. Is this all divorce money
Starting point is 01:32:20 that he lost out on? It has to be divorced money. Is that how is this that love? It was a lot. That's insane. I thought he was flirting with the Billiano. That's what I thought too. No, but remember when he, when they acquired beats, Apple acquired beats, the deal was worth a billion. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:35 So I don't know. That's not to say he's netting that. But I would love to know. How much money Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. He's still... I mean, I'm pretty sure he owns all his masters and all the fucking artist that he has under his umbrella.
Starting point is 01:32:50 He must make a lot of money, but... So that would literally be... He got M&M, he has 50 cent. He has fucking snoop. He has... But if there's one thing that I really, like, get from looking at this, it's that you're not going to get stupid rich making music. No, right.
Starting point is 01:33:07 You can make a lot of money making music. But at the end of the day, the top tier is all people who have gone into other side ventures and created all like Jay-Z with his fucking management company and the out-licker and Diddies, liquor. And like, obviously, the music side is huge and everything. But then with Burner, it's like, I am surprised to read that. I had no idea that it was going to be in that. In fact, in fact, you know that.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Yeah, but I just didn't know it was going to be like that. Within the next few years, I anticipate Bernard to be the richest. And I'll tell you why. 100%. As legislation can. continues to change and they're legalizing weed and not only decriminalizing it, but making it recreational in all these different states. He got four rows seats to every day.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Yeah, that he's literally like the Walmart of marijuana. I mean, he's in the right place. How do we feel about Kanye's wealth coming crashing down? And I also saw a news report and who knows if this is exaggerated or not, but they're basically saying that because Kanye spends so much money, that yes, he is worth a lot and he brings in a lot of money and everything. But if you really think about it, pretty much every stream of income that he has at his disposal to be able to afford the extremely expensive lifestyle that he lives is in total disarray. In terms of his music, it's like, I don't think people are streaming his music
Starting point is 01:34:25 as much and there's going to be a lot less of an incentive for it to be platform. He's not even in a label deal anymore in terms of the clothes. He's totally fucked for the moment in terms of that. His label, again, like all the artists were signed to him. Like concerts. are like frozen like they're basically saying it would be really unlikely that can you could get booked at this point uh so it's like he's really not going to be bringing in much money and then meanwhile he spends a lot of fucking money so they're predicting that he might be a couple months away from financial collapse which i'm not saying that i 100% believe that because it seems kind of like doomsayer ish like i feel like if it comes down to it there's a lot of fucking ways that Kanye will be
Starting point is 01:35:03 able to figure out how to make money right but that would be pretty wild if we were to really see some kind of serious collapse. I think literally like Kanye, he's going to figure it out. I said this before. People will be mad at him for a little while, and then he does something, and then people, he entertains them again.
Starting point is 01:35:23 They haven't been this mad. We've never seen anything like this. We've never seen anything like this. But just recently, when he's posting all this stuff, you know what I'm saying? And people are like, I see everybody laughing again. They're like, oh, okay, Kanye's back in the rhythm, you know, even going,
Starting point is 01:35:38 as far as talking about George Floyd's wife and saying the ugly ass hat and all this stuff like that. What the fuck was that? But people are literally getting a kick out of this and I can see it like, let's be real. If Kanye drops some independent shoes, people are going to buy him. If he drops music again,
Starting point is 01:35:52 people are going to fucking listen. Whatever he does, people are intrigued to look at him and to digest the shit. I need my white lives matter kicks, ASAP. I don't want those. But, hey, AD, let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:36:04 I got to come in rocking that fit at some point. Ad, you a question. White no jumper, right? I think it says it on the back. We're going to have to film the pod with me facing away so they can see it. I'm black no jumper, bro. You think you're white john. I got a question for you AD. You're a business owner, right? How much pressure do you feel and how much of a burden do you feel for all the other people that depend on your success?
Starting point is 01:36:32 Heavy. Significant. Now, think about Adam. That's magnified several times over. because there's, you're feeding a lot of mouths, right, Adam? Like, you know what I mean? Not just on Plug Talk, literally speaking. But I'm just saying like, you're taking care of a lot of people. Everyone in this room and of significantly more people are dependent on your success and what you got going on. Correct or no?
Starting point is 01:36:55 Yeah. But nobody's bigger than the program. Okay. But just think about how much pressure if I was, like, really in business with Kanye, even somebody like me who realistically has canceled themselves and basically doesn't have any corporate connections, I can imagine that I would feel an immense amount of pressure from different people if I were to be platforming at this point.
Starting point is 01:37:17 And that's me. That's not a nori. So you would feel that from pressure from platforming with Kanye, you're saying. How much pressure does fucking Kanye feel? And especially we're looking at his current mental state, all the shit that he's been through, all the trauma from his separation from his wife, from being disenfranchised from his kids,
Starting point is 01:37:38 all these, you know, the public fall from grace that he's experienced in the past several years, right? Is it possible that either on a purposeful or a subconscious level, this dude is sabotaging himself to the point where he still has enough money to live comfortably, but he doesn't, he's not going to have to have all these people dependent on him anymore because his entire empire is getting slashed down. Well, I do feel like he's someone who is so...
Starting point is 01:38:05 not a brilliant theory? No, it's ridiculous. No, but okay. It's ridiculous. I mean, it makes no sense because, okay, think about it. If Kanye, Kanye's not being deliberate with this. He just literally is going on camera and saying how he feels, you know? It's like, that's why I said subconscious, though. It's like a sabotage to a degree that. I just think that like he is somebody who, he really has drank the own Kool-Aid on his own genius to the point where he thinks that these thoughts that he has and these conversations that he has in private, because these are the kind of conversations that people do sometimes have in private is that he just believes that he's the one who's going to bring this gospel of not fucking with Jewish people and George Floyd dying from fentanyl,
Starting point is 01:38:45 he's going to be the one to spread the message. And he's so used to taking Ws in his life that it's like impossible for him to realize when he's taking an L. And it's like, you know, like he just had so many success over and over and over that he can't handle it that his marriage didn't work out. He can't handle that the kids are not able to operate on the same. terms that he wants to be and he can't handle it that his viewpoint on a lot of these topics of the things that he's been told by people is considered extremely offensive and that people aren't
Starting point is 01:39:14 going to want to work with him anymore but he's he's going down with the ship so you got to respect that but i don't think there's anything calculated about this at all and that's why i said subconscious but at the same time if you just wanted people not being hangar-ons or whatever you would just kind of like stop doing business and just liquidate and keep the money not not torch the entire business. But you can't necessarily when so many people are dependent on you to the point where they're just like you you're an institution you have to keep it lit.
Starting point is 01:39:41 He could have said Adidas buy my company. They would have said gladly we'll write you a fucking check for hundreds of millions of dollars. Here you go. Now we own easy. We could do our thing. You could just be a figurehead. We're going to own it. That's what I'm saying but he doesn't want to be a figure head. He doesn't want he wants to be able to be. He could have not been a figurehead. He could have just ducked off. He wants to be free from
Starting point is 01:40:00 all everything. That's what it feels like, right? No, you know how Dave Chappelle gets credit for being a genius because he left the show at a high point? Or even somebody like Jerry Seinfeld gets credit because he left his show at a high point. Yeezie blew his fucking show up. He blew up the whole business of being Kanye. And he didn't do it in this like deliberate way where he knew he was making the right decision. He just did it because he's an impulsive fool. And I think a lot of it is like due to the stress, like the incredible duress that he's under.
Starting point is 01:40:30 But at the same time, it's like, you know, the movie. the Truman show. Y'all seen that, right? Classic. Like, literally, Jim Carrey's like, I'm out this bitch. That's how I feel like Kanye is trying to just, he wants to leave. He's trying to usher in a new beginning with how contracts
Starting point is 01:40:47 and things going forward is structured. Destroy and rebuild. But it just sucks that when he has the potential to have such an impact from his platform, instead of talking about, you know, like police brutality, prison reform and things that could
Starting point is 01:41:02 really be helpful to the masses. He's just like regurgitating far right talking points that aren't original thoughts that are kind of being repurposed as, hey, this is like free thinking. You know what I mean? That's what I don't like about. I've seen whack post it. And to me, this is this statement is kind of like a self-own. But he said, like, why did Kanye not get canceled when he said that slavery was a choice
Starting point is 01:41:26 and all this shit about black people or whatever? Black people didn't make that big a deal about it. Like, they're definitely worse. some people who made a big deal about it, but it wasn't that big a deal. Yeezy still continued to be popular. His shows went off by the Hitch. It was no real attempt to cancel him. And it's like there just wasn't. And when he offended the Jewish people, there was because they actually went for it and we're like, we're offended by this. We're going to fucking raise hell. All this showed me is that a lot of black people, we don't own none of
Starting point is 01:41:54 the shit. So, yeah, black people, we can get offended by it, but we can't technically cancel you fully all the way. Because for a lot of times, like, we're not the only race and we're not the only people that are digesting the content. But they would have had to stop supporting them. They would have to just stop buying products and listening. But if all black people stop, there's other people and other races that are going to continue to buy the shit. You know what I'm saying? It's just like if six nine comes out with something, yeah, hip-hop community, don't fuck with him, but there's still kids that are running to buy his shit. They're running to champion him. So, I mean, what he's saying and what I see is that the people who actually own the buildings and actually own the platforms and actually that, they are offended and they're privately taking him off of this situation.
Starting point is 01:42:42 To be fair, slavery is a choice is not really as offensive as what he said about the Jews thing. It's a lot more abstract. It's super offensive. But it's different because it's just like historically inaccurate and it's just like a weird statement that you don't really know what to make of. Whereas declaring Defcon 3 on the Jews is pretty easy to just, oh, you want to go to war with Jewish people. I think they're in the same. But just one is a lot more abstract and just weirder, right? He also, while he said that, he's saying very vitriolic things about the black community as well.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Like he's like, this is on the heels of white lives matter. This is like in the same conversation where we talked about, made disparaging remarks about George Floyd and question the legitimacy of like the circumstances around his death. Yeah, because I think that like Kanye, let's be real, Kanye is hard to cancel because he is so beloved. It's like it was a sustained campaign of him saying a lot of different offensive shit that made all this shit happen. It wasn't just like one tweet.
Starting point is 01:43:43 You know, if it was just that one death gun through and the Jews tweet, I mean, maybe I don't think people would have necessarily gone with it, but it was the death con, it was the drink champs thing and a bunch of other shit at the same time, you know. And then he wound up double. doubling back and apologizing for a lot of the stuff that he said to and like not. A lot of the apologies have been kind of half-assed because he's like still being held disrespectful on the George Floyd thing even though he was kind of taken back some of the stuff he said. Apologies that he's doing it the way he's doing it now, I feel like that should have been the
Starting point is 01:44:11 approach to begin with of how he should have got his point across. You know why he's really mad at Jews? Let's keep it a stack here. Drake is Jewish. This is a crazy thing. I heard academics on his stream. talking about the fact that Kanye in like large groups of people was talking about how we wanted to get Drake killed.
Starting point is 01:44:30 And that's how that came out was that he was just saying it in front of big groups of people. Bro, Drake is Jewish. Come on, fool. Like you don't think there's like that didn't fuel the animosity just a little bit? I'm surprised that hasn't really been brought up by him yet at this point. I think this has everything to do with the fashion industry
Starting point is 01:44:47 and how he feels like. For sure. He, you know, he's always said like even when he was with Nike, he didn't have control over his shit. you and what was going on. Then he goes to Adidas and he feels like, okay, they're giving me more leeway, but they're not giving me, you know what I'm saying? But hey, Drake been real quiet through all this.
Starting point is 01:45:05 Drake been really quiet. They did a concert together. They squashed a baby. He could send a coded message, you know, he could have had any kind of like, I support, if he were to just say, I love my Jewish people on a story, everybody would take it as a Kanye diss, you know? For sure. He didn't set a word throughout all this.
Starting point is 01:45:22 But yeah, this did kind of start with him calling out the Adidas employer. who I think are Jewish that he had a specific issue with and that that's kind of how this all started on Instagram For sure, but I'm just saying The root of the animosity could be a little bit deeper than that You know, like and it's not again, I don't think it's one incident I think it's an amalgam of all these different things in once New show or no jumper theories with lush
Starting point is 01:45:45 Maybe not that title Theories with lush Teories with lush You should do movie reviews Wow You will get canceled Wow Okay, how about the fact that apparently Twitter might be charging somewhere between $5 and $20 a month to be verified on the platform?
Starting point is 01:46:07 This is the weirdest fucking thing I ever heard because I had to fight for a year. I think I got verified in 2017. Realistically, I've been doing my thing for a long time before I got verified on Twitter. I'm pretty sure you're still in the no verification camp. Yeah. Why? And I feel like that is going to change a lot of people's opinions on this because people aren't verified are like, yeah, I should be able to be verified too.
Starting point is 01:46:31 People who are already verified like me are like, I had to work fucking hard to get verified. Like you shouldn't just be able to pay to get verified. You should have to do super hard to get Twitter verified. What would you have to do? It was a lot. I mean, a lot of that stuff is like articles. Just mailing in articles and stuff. Yeah, that was I had to do too.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Now, I actually. Did you have to send your ID in too? You know what it was? I just met. somebody who was able to change my Twitter name from On Some Shit to Adam 22 and get me verified at the same time Because they wouldn't verify me I was on some shit
Starting point is 01:46:59 The swear word couldn't get verified A lot of businesses though to have a harder time But I know like when you're dropping music And you have a certain press Like I ain't gonna lie I use my TMZ shit to my advantage Like true I'm on TMZ Give me this Instagram, give me this Twitter
Starting point is 01:47:14 Right It worked You know what the like As someone that's not verified I wouldn't want to be verified anymore if anybody could just pay for it and there's no real status associated with it. It wouldn't mean anything, right? No, it doesn't.
Starting point is 01:47:27 Other than the shit looking cool, being verified literally does nothing for you. No, it is good on Twitter, though, because... It prioritizes you in the algorithm. Well, I didn't know this. Does it? Absolutely. But you can look on the tab and you can look at your verified mentions. And a lot of times...
Starting point is 01:47:40 You do have that. Like, when I had that tweet the other day that had 8 million impressions and like 50,000 likes or whatever, it's like, I'm looking at the verified tab and I can see, oh, Hassan like the tweet H3 like the tweet so I can look through like 20 verified mentions and not the 50,000 fucking ones that are never use it for that now you never click on that tab
Starting point is 01:48:02 no really swear it makes Twitter so much easier to use because when you're you're yeah like this is the main tab there's like 5 billion notifications then you go here and I have what hot rod from G unit saying something to me so that's important on IG though like when you're verified your comments show up. Yes.
Starting point is 01:48:24 It's like easier to see. But I mean, I support Elon firing all these woke people at Twitter and trying to turn this into a real business, but I hope he doesn't turn verification into a business because I really think that like as much as it's a flawed system. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:39 And like you don't get that many verified. That's just because I posted the video of us dancing and it's like it's still on the main screen. I mean, to be fair, I don't be on Twitter as much. Yeah, you never tweet. But, but. What was it sign? I forget.
Starting point is 01:48:52 But, oh, yeah, like, I just think that's crazy. If people are just able to straight up pay for it, that's going to be a weird fucking system, dude. It takes away, but to be fair, also, it's like all these people who have, like, you know, a couple hundred thousand followers who work for major, like, media companies, like the Times or the Washington Post, I mean, if you work for complex for six months and you could have, like, 2,000 followers and be verified on Twitter. But then at the same time, there's all these people on the right who have, you know,
Starting point is 01:49:17 millions of followers and can't get verified, even though they're. I've got huge fucking platforms, and it's just like, I do think the verification system just seems unbelievably unfair, even though I'm on the beneficial side of it, you know? Well, when it first started on Twitter, the original reason they had verification was literally to verify your identity because there would be like the fake Adam 22 page. This is the real one. Like so. Yeah. What if somebody was able to spend five bucks a month to just pretend to be somebody famous? Wow.
Starting point is 01:49:44 I mean, you could probably imagine seeing that comment. I remember I had some homies who made a page pretending to be me, just like. tweeting all this stuff pretending to be me right and i was like i'm being impersonated i can get verified and i filled out all the forms thinking i was going to be able to get verified on twitter and it turns out having one parody account that was probably created on the same IP address that i was on yeah they have to prove that there's multiple yeah i had multiple there's multiple fake lush one accounts but you know they made it just don't like you they don't they don't like crystal meth i would like see more yeah crystal lush they don't they don't like it that could be your next
Starting point is 01:50:20 tape. That's like the homie ace boy trade. They made like so many different Ace Boy Trey Instagram accounts to where we don't know which one is really his. He's like, now we're like, okay, I'm not going to see it. You probably already follow it, right? No, you follow it, but when you're tagging it,
Starting point is 01:50:36 it's all the fake ones come up first before the real one. That's why when you're coming up with your name on Instagram, it's really important to try to choose something that is going to be the thing that people are going to be typing in. Because I'm going to be honest with you, still to this day I can never find Kiki's YouTube when I go to look for it because it's like
Starting point is 01:50:54 why are you still looking for it that's like I'm saying if I do look for it I can't find it because it's like it's like S C E E E E E E E E and unless you get the right number of E's it won't know no I was actually supporting the homies channel I'm like you I'm sorry damn support my brother's channel you didn't pop up at the pop up I actually went to the pop up without a chopper without a chopper some of it was around you didn't have a chopper Um, but I'm just saying that's an example, though. I liked it when it was king of content, because then I could actually find that. And I'm like, skis is Christ.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Skis is Christ. Adlib of the year. Yeah, he's going off. Ski fingers. Not the ski fingers. David Russell got me too, man. Yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:39 I try to shake housebone's hand and give him the fingers and then, I saw that. Hey, and I ain't going to lie. It was amazing because slow motion of me turning like a, Turned back and like, oh, I failed. Gap rejection. Damn rejection. Isn't it crazy that all those meme pages, like, had this crazy momentum going, and then kind of were just like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:01 They got snatched up by the Reddit and fucking, but if they had kept going, it would still be a big thing. But I feel like most of the pages were just like, nah, I'll post like a couple times a month. Fuck it. I feel like. It was on point for it. I need to just, like, hire one of the meme pages to be the official meme page because I miss the meme page energy. I feel like Russell's. could kind of just knock the wind out of a lot of the meme pages.
Starting point is 01:52:22 That's somebody in the office, though. Let's keep it. Do you believe that? Let's keep a G. I don't like 100% believe it, but I also don't believe that there is a real person name that because I feel like if it was a real person, they already would have revealed themselves. The fact that they're being sneaky about it makes me think that,
Starting point is 01:52:38 I don't know. I'm telling you it was Flacco. I thought that, but then Flacco sending takedown requests and like, like, the office like basically potentially maybe getting that channel taking down it's not that you mean your your dog t dot potter or what i'm just saying man it's like i'm i'm seeing people get pissed off because like some people their content doesn't do that many views and then he posts
Starting point is 01:53:06 it and it gets way more views so they're like uh even even with me right i'm on stream it is promo i'm on the stream by the time i get off the stream there's six or seven videos up before i even do it now See, in that case, I wouldn't really blame you for trying to get it taken down. But even then, I'm like, you know what? If that is getting people more engaged with my content because I'm not going to lie. I looked at my last fucking caffeine stream and so many motherfuckers commented, I came here because of David Russell. So if they're going to look at something that I made and you put your spin on it
Starting point is 01:53:41 and it brings you to me anyway to get the content, then it's a win-win situation. But once it starts to feel like they're just posting stuff, that you were going to post and then instead they're getting the views or whatever that's when it could be kind of annoying but like okay even when i was talking to or i was listening to mr beast talk about with kyle from knellk boys the the andrew tate model is like i'm not sure exactly how he did it but he basically just like incentivized people to make to upload his content to tic talk and all these other platforms and to just post his stuff and the way tic ticc is it's like a fucking lottery if you post the same video 10 times or 100 times some percentage of them are just going to go viral and that's a big percentage of how
Starting point is 01:54:20 Andrew Tate blew up and Mr. Bees his his whole perspective of why he was going on the Nelk Boys podcast was just that he wanted the clips of him talking to just be cut up by fans and go viral on TikTok like to him that's so valuable that he doesn't even give a shit about anything else that's like incredible to me to think about it in that way it's all about impressions essentially right just making as many impressions as possible yeah i mean TikTok is like a fame machine. Like you can just get famous on TikTok if you have enough viral TikTok. So it's like incentivize people to post TikToks of you. And yeah, it's not you posting it. But it's like, if you were the one posting it, you can get a million views and you can get like 20 bucks anyway. So
Starting point is 01:54:58 just let make it easy for people to just post you. And so that's what we have a contest that we're planning that we haven't announced yet. But on no jumper where it's going to be like we're giving them we're giving out X amount of money to people for just basically making TikToks out of our content. And the ones that are the biggest, we're going to give out cash or a job who knows but I was just thinking cash for this fuck it I'll just announce it right now and we're going to make flyers for it but
Starting point is 01:55:23 we're going to throughout the month of November we're going to pick five winners to get a thousand bucks each if you are one of the people. More than some people's pay rate at no jumper? Why possibly let's do an episode about it. I'll meet you with the penis houses but we'll
Starting point is 01:55:39 have a flyer up but basically like current content, old content feel free, make take talks out of it as long as you tag no jumper and i'm 22 and i suppose the other hosts if there are other hosts then you'll be eligible and we'll we'll figure out at the end of the month and probably hashtag no jumper would be good too because that way we'll be able to search the tag no here's that that's fire first of all so the thing is like i feel like david russell and pages like that are super necessary because we're not just a media platform we're characters that people are
Starting point is 01:56:14 invested in this point. We are a drama. Right. So why should the person who's monetizing that and creating that hub, why should it be just some random guy? And I think that that's why I see certain people wanting to take it down. And I'm like, I understand where you're
Starting point is 01:56:30 coming from. That's the art of fandom. Also, you all really got to put your phones on silent. It is on silent. It's just fucking vibrating. That means it's not on silent. No, but it was only one incident where I felt bad and it was pot Lord stream. was sharp.
Starting point is 01:56:46 And I've seen that fucking clip get, I want to say, 600,000 or some crazy-ass number with his content that I was like, fuck, I wish that he got, you know, on Podlord's stream. So when Potlord was filming with Sharp, somebody took a piece of the stream and uploaded today's shit, and they got an insane amount of views that he usually does not get. So I was kind of bummed like, damn,
Starting point is 01:57:14 I wish that he had got all those views versus, you know. But this is the thing. When that happens and it goes viral on somebody else's platform, if you're really dope like that, they're going to go find your platform and subscribe and tune in, right? If it's just a freak encounter, if it's just like a viral moment, if it's just some bullshit and people aren't interested to see more,
Starting point is 01:57:35 then it's like whatever. Then it's just like they are monetizing this viral moment and you're not. But the reason why Mr. Beast is so confident that he says, I'll go on people's podcast. just so that they'll make TikToks out of it is because he really believes that he's dope and that people will love his content. And so the more, you know, exposure he gets
Starting point is 01:57:53 that eventually that exposure will turn into like value for him in the long run, which is kind of how I see it too. It's just like, listen, if I even just, somebody posts a viral TikTok and it even gets us like a couple thousand followers, it's like those are all just new parts of your eye. To me, that's worth so much monetarily.
Starting point is 01:58:11 Right. Getting 10,000 new followers from organic means of people who might really actually sit and watch a fucking podcast from you because they found out about you on TikTok, I'll gladly pay 10,000 bucks for 10,000 real fans, you know? And it's not, especially for work you don't have to do, essentially, people repurposing it. But it's also not just like creating content is one thing, but having that keen instinct of what content is going to pop off. But then that's going to go viral. It pisses me off when it gets mislabeled. and it's sort of like made to seem like something it's not. And it's like, listen, if I'm just going to be cool about you using my footage,
Starting point is 01:58:49 then you cannot be putting out fake fucking narratives. The pot called in the kettle black. What do I do? That's clickbaiting. I'm using my own footage. No, no. And B, I might be clickbaiting at times, but it's like it's our footage. You have, and I do it myself now too.
Starting point is 01:59:02 I'm saying he is using our footage to paint a weird narrative. That's different. You have a way of wording shit. That's, and it's a very great talent. Because now I'd be like, how can I say this? Because one time you literally was like, two people had like a regular conversation. You was like, this person, this person go to war.
Starting point is 01:59:21 And I'm like, okay, if I'm on YouTube and I see they go to war, I'm going to click on that. So even now, I'd be like, what can I say to do that? Even though I don't do my titles, but hey, I'm like, make this shit more spicy. Adam will be doing it this way. The first interview I did with you and I was like, talking about there is a period of time I this is my direct quote like there's a period of time
Starting point is 01:59:45 for about a year where I was one of the biggest dope dealers in my side of west LA and then I made about the quote no no no it said lush one on why he's was LA's biggest dope dealer and then all and it did decent views but all the comments like are reacting to that title not the actual content of what I'm saying well at least you don't have to feel like me the they got me as the two times in the thumbnail as a fucking male dancer and then it has to be up there. Yeah, yeah, I bet you didn't see it. Well, where'd they get the picture
Starting point is 02:00:17 from, dog? Yeah, where they get the picture from? The right track? What did they get the picture from? The Jonathan Wright track? You was on the right track, but the wrong train, baby girl? No, because I just interviewed Jonathan Wright, and he always keeps saying the right way, the right way, and I just want to tell them about the right track so bad. But I don't think you'd understand.
Starting point is 02:00:33 Or he might understand a little too much. Hey, how about this? So Boolee Kev did an interview with Lil Pump. Seeing it. Seen a couple clips didn't watch the whole thing it was a little dry I'll be honest with you now I as Pump's a tough interview though right
Starting point is 02:00:48 yeah I mean we did one interview that didn't even come out it was so tough not taking anything away from Kev he did an admirable job of trying to get water from a stone there but while I'm watching it I'm thinking I'm looking at the title and I'm thinking this title was different
Starting point is 02:01:04 before because when I saw it set as a premiere the title was Lil Pump on Jay Cole predicting his career. And when I saw that, I thought to myself like, ooh, Kev, that's a harsh title. Like, that's a little bit of a title that I can imagine the person you interviewed, like, not feeling so great about, even though it's kind of reality. He called him a failure, essentially. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:32 And so then when I actually am looking at it after it goes live, the title's different. And it's like Jay Cole's opinion on his career. Some shit, it's way less like offensive or whatever. Somebody made the call. Yeah, I hit Bullock Kev up and he said that Pump got so pissed that he posted his fucking phone number on his story. He was so mad about it. That's why it changed. So that was.
Starting point is 02:01:54 To be honest, like my biggest takeaway from that interview was that pump is actually a lot more matured than he has ever been. And I'm not saying that he still doesn't have more growing to do, but he's matured quite a bit. I know him pretty well, and I would say it felt like I was pretty much looking at the same person that I saw back in the day. Really? You don't think that there's any changes? I mean, he seems like calm down. He doesn't seem like really like on drugs. So like, you know, you would always kind of get the extreme ends of his personality. But I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 02:02:23 Yeah, I was a little, I thought there was going to be a little bit more growth, you know? Because that's really what people want to see from pump. They want to see like a real in-depth conversation. They want to see development. He's still in his early 20s. Yeah, that's true. I'm 22. Yeah, like, I think exactly.
Starting point is 02:02:39 It's the same age as Duno. But, yeah, I don't know. I would love to see. Who would you bet on in an academic decathlon, Duno or Lopone? Oh, for show, Duno. I'm going to have to ride with the home team. You know, right with Duno? Like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:54 I don't think that it would be a great. What is that, about an athletic competition as well? Duno's in the gym. Duno for swimming. Mm. And probably lifting weights. I think a little pumpkin swimmer. I think I'd see him jump in the pool a bunch of times.
Starting point is 02:03:10 Duno knows at least 53 syllable words. I can't say the same. 43 moves going. Yeah. I don't know. Are me and Lopombe ever going to have a reconciliation? I don't know. Is it all bad?
Starting point is 02:03:25 Yeah, he hit me up yelling at me one time. Oh, I remember that. That wasn't even that long ago. Yeah, it was the same weekend that I did the Dan Bizarian interview. He hit me up the next morning. And I think he had been having a really good. night. He called me a bitch. Yeah. You can reconcile, bro.
Starting point is 02:03:40 He hit you in, like, seven in the morning. I reconciled with Charleston White. How's that going? I had a conversation with him, a phone conversation. For how long? It was about maybe 10 minutes. I'm surprised you guys were able to limit yourself to that little because you're both kind of verbose.
Starting point is 02:03:56 Yeah, but I've learned, as you guys can see you on camera, I've learned now not to, you know, you can't do the r-r-r-r-r-shin-do-all-it. It doesn't get you nowhere in the grand scheme of things on camera or having a phone conversation, even if I feel a certain type of way about something. Like, I don't have to agree with everything that you say, but I'm at least give you respect as a man. We can have a conversation. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:04:21 So we're going to Dallas? We might be going to Texas. I just had a floco moment. Yeah. Yeah. We might go to Texas. So the convoy turned out good. Yeah, the combo turned out good.
Starting point is 02:04:32 But are the other cool Dallas rappers not going to meet up with us if they know that we also met up with Charles and Whitewater out there? I mean, it's not about that. It's about, you know, at the end of the day, like, and I can say... I fuck with Go Yeo, man. Go Yeo is a hard-ass Dallas rapper. I can honestly say, even though
Starting point is 02:04:49 a lot of the shit, Charles, and said, triggered me, I never should have got on camera and said that bullshit. You were going to set them up? Yeah, that's lame. My shit never did no shit like that. That was kind of funny, but... Fire. I mean, it was just the emotion at the time,
Starting point is 02:05:04 but, you know, for me to say that shit, you know what I'm saying? On this platform, out to the world, where not only am I potentially ever incriminate myself, but, too, like, I show the motion, and you lose every time we show motion on camera. On another tip as far as Dallas, do you know that there's a Dallas rapper? We know, obviously, riffraff is from near Houston, right? And riffraff is very influenced by... Tiptoeing in my... Houston rap.
Starting point is 02:05:33 By... But there's a rapper from Dallas. My motherfucker's name the riffrave sounds like. Big tuck. Yes, Big Tuck. Big Tuck. Love Big Tuck. From Dallas.
Starting point is 02:05:40 Listen to the song, South Side to Realist. Oh, that's the best song, yeah, yeah. I know that song by heart. I remember somebody from Texas tried to play me that song one time. Be like, I'm going to put you on this song for Texas. And then I knew all the words that they didn't know the words. And it was a fucking funny-ass moment. Who said we ain't dope dealing wizards?
Starting point is 02:05:56 Yeah. Car changing up like a chameleon lizard. You can't change your colors like a chameleon liars. I'm not going to wrap it right now, but I can do it. But, but no. play that shit you're gonna be like damn adam funky literally literally that song right there just picture riffraff spitting those words and you'll be like damn this is where he got his entire stees from yeah and that's not even a dis like it's it's kind of tight actually but there used to be it used
Starting point is 02:06:20 to be a lot easier to jack people's styles and rap like people with jack people's styles like and flows and it was less communication online so it would get called out less like when i think about perp and pump back in the day they were kind of jacking a lot of different underground rappers flows and not really getting shit for it. And then as the conversation online started to grow, I remember Pump put out a song that sounded exactly like Valet's flow.
Starting point is 02:06:45 And it was like crazy. He was getting called out left and right for it. Valley? That's how you say it. You say Valet. I thought it was Valley. You're talking about dude from Chicago. Yeah, yeah, who I interviewed and then Yuri deleted the interview. For real? Yeah. Man, his shit was fired.
Starting point is 02:07:00 I interviewed him at the perfect moment. You're far at year. High point of his career. Yuri just deleted it. That song's Shell. That was my knock. He was fire. Yeah, he was. Rappers need to always rap about gas stations
Starting point is 02:07:11 because all that shit that OJ said about the Texaco means a lot to me. Flamed up the air. That song, yes. Bupy Mar gels. Filled like Braille. That dude, Valet, is a weird fucking motherfucker. He was just so,
Starting point is 02:07:27 damn, that's why it pisses me out that interview because he was just such an interesting individual. He was into so many different things. and then he's also into lean and weed and like... I thought he was going to blow up, low-key. Yeah, he just... I don't know. He don't really seem like you ever tried that hard.
Starting point is 02:07:40 Like, he just kind of was just doing his thing. How many interviews have you lost starting OJolver? That one. One two-and-chee-five interview that we replaced it right away, so luckily. And then I had one day where I did Combat Jack and a little peep in the same day. And then I accidentally deleted... I accidentally deleted the audio. And then they both...
Starting point is 02:08:03 like within a year or two they both had died so it's like I had both the interviews but I lost the audio so I had iPhone audio which is not anything but I think those might be the only ones you know notice like that's great though looking at the no jumper channel a lot of the most viewed content on the channel are music videos like there's a lot of really like videos that have several million views we used to do that back in the day but now it's just kind of like yeah what changed it I was curious about that because it's like I don't know like we we would just like at first it was like oh little peep's sending me his videos to post on the channel so i'm just going to do it because i think it's dope and i think he's going to blow up
Starting point is 02:08:41 you know and then like i started to get offered people they're like oh i'm going to pay you two thousand dollars to post my video and i really kind of like need the money at the time so i'm like all right we just so we just posted mad wax shit's whack shit and then it's like we're making more and more content and i'm starting to look at the channel and i just feel disgusted seeing these pieces of content that i worked so hard on and they're just right next to a video from some kid who I think is a total tool. And then it's like, I'm looking at Cole Bennett and the way he's treating his channel. And it's like he's just doing these fire fucking music videos.
Starting point is 02:09:13 And then I'm reposting this shit. And it's like, yeah, my channel is not about music videos. So it's whatever. But it's like, I don't know. And then at a certain point, I was like, you know what? We're going to sell promo on the Instagram because that's where 90% of people who want promo want it is on Instagram. Like people don't really pay for Twitter promo or YouTube promo nearly as much.
Starting point is 02:09:31 But people want Instagram. So we just focus on that in terms of selling shit. But then you got the Big Bank Uchee's video on the No Jumper channel. Like shit like that is so fucking legendary. Yeah. And it's like some of them age badly and then some of them just age so good. But we have like 9 million views on a random little Skies and Lil Zanz song. Right.
Starting point is 02:09:51 I don't even know why. I don't think it's a popular song, but it has 9 million views. Correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't the biggest video on the channel, the Taked song, the whole? Probably. I know the X interview is crazy, too. That's one. And that was like one of the first piece.
Starting point is 02:10:08 I've heard so many people talking to you being like, oh, I saw the X, X, X, X, X interview. Like, that's a point of reference for so many people. All day, every day. People come up to me saying that shit. And what's crazy is, like, one of the first things I ever seen of X, because I remember, like, people were making anime videos and just putting X songs behind it.
Starting point is 02:10:28 And I was like, who the fuck is this guy? All right. Number one, take A and Blockboy video. 32 million views. Number two, low pump buying $1,000 shoes of the mall, $27 million. Number three is the Take-A-M-Block boy audio, which came out like a couple months before the video, which was $22 million.
Starting point is 02:10:45 Then you have the ex-interview with $20 million. Is this the most creative BMX bike rider on earth? 18 million. Sue Generes featuring HBK, 15 million views. The stupid young vlog inside the Asian Crip gangs of LA, 13 million. Little Pump versus security 13 million. Crime like Cass and ABG Neil Forrest Gump,
Starting point is 02:11:08 12 million views. I had a threesome and I vlogged it. 11 million views. God damn. Then like, yeah, there are a lot. What's the most viral pod view you would say? X. No, I mean, live stream, I would say. Not interview.
Starting point is 02:11:24 On our shit? Honestly, it might be the Woods Galiva one. I think. Doesn't I like 2 million views? Wouldn't it be a, what about like Boonk falling asleep on the stream? Like that was very, yeah, but that was like a live stream though? Yeah,
Starting point is 02:11:39 but that was when my lifestyle used to be go to the store, stream in the back for, I did this for like a few months. Like stream in the back for like six, seven, eight hours every night, whoever comes in back, I sit down, they do the interview and then we like upload the interview separately
Starting point is 02:11:53 at the end of the night, but I was just doing everything live. And that's when that Bunk thing happened. But yeah, that wasn't, it was a live stream moment technically. But like in terms of like the modern era of like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, we have a lightly, a nightly thing. I mean, there might be some no jumper ones that did pretty good, but like the TI one maybe or who else did we have that were good guests on there?
Starting point is 02:12:15 The guests are obviously going to be the one that blows it up. I think the whiz one was really big. That was like almost two million views, I think. I think the Mozzie one was good too. Yeah, but whiz definitely out the most. I can't imagine there's anyone on a jump a little more. How do you feel about academics? Did you see the things that he said?
Starting point is 02:12:30 basically was saying like like uh no but it wasn't it wasn't bad he was just saying basically like that he clicks out if it's not me yeah he said but he said there's stars on the channel and stuff like that
Starting point is 02:12:43 and he feels everybody's like ganging up ganging up on you now and that you know he doesn't think that like so many so many podcasts are necessary takes away from the company and he said people are being ungrateful demanding money from you
Starting point is 02:12:59 Well, that certainly sounds like it makes a little bit of a sense. No, I mean, money is fair. Like, going on other people's podcasts and talking about money seems a little weird to me. But in terms of what he was saying, I mean, we definitely have gone the quantity over quality route in the sense that we do a lot of stuff. We're trying a lot of shit. The Monday show, like, is that even a thing? Like, is that going to last in the long run? We don't really necessarily know.
Starting point is 02:13:24 We just like launch it. We try it. Some stuff just works. Like the sharp thing just worked right. way some stuff like AD's shit on Wednesday was like not doing that good at first and now it does real good and it's like I don't know we just are like I am attracted to the idea of just like only putting something out once it's amazing but also it's like with AD's shit if we had like done it for a couple months in secrecy you wouldn't have got any feedback you wouldn't have been hearing
Starting point is 02:13:50 people tell you like hey I like it when you do this and I don't like this and I don't like it when you bring this person on you know because we could have like we could have filmed 15 fucking episodes at the end of the day trying to find the perfect cast before we even went live. A lot of people would do that. We just kind of did it out in the open. I want to say we need priority on fucking we hungry. It does amazing views. It doesn't make no
Starting point is 02:14:13 fucking sense. I was just yelling at Josh. I filmed the last episode almost a month and a half ago and it's still not to be releasing. People hit me up every day. Is it canceled? Is it canceled? I think that that should be priority over here. Fuck my movie reviews. I don't understand how the workflow could pause.
Starting point is 02:14:28 possibly be that slow. And it's definitely like, I sometimes need to be reminded like, hey, we need the title for the We Hungry today or whatever. But it's like, I mean, I did this like two weeks ago. Like, fucking, I don't know what the problem is that. I don't blame. I don't blame Josh because Josh gets the shorter than a stick all the time. Everybody blames him when something goes wrong. But it's just like when we try to take on doing more things, it's like, we just need to be committed to being able to do the things that we are currently doing right. And like, if we're going to take something on, it just needs to become like a real process. Like with Sledge lords, we just like assign Bossa to it.
Starting point is 02:14:58 He does the timestamps. He does the TikToks for us. We just go back and forth with him over the title or whatever. It's just a group chat. It's just smooth and easy. I mean, we just need that same level of organization where people are just going back and forth quickly about something like We Hunger, you know?
Starting point is 02:15:14 And also, I just want to say that we dropped the first clip from the 1090 Jake Patreon today on the Nogumper clips page. Actually, by the time you guys see this, there will be two clips out. And if you want to watch the whole thing in its entirety, all you have to do is go to patreon.com slash nojumper or Onlyfans. slash no jump bear and you watch the whole thing or you can watch it broken up into parts over and over and if you guys want to send suggestions for people that you think that you would like to see me do this sort of long distance content with consistently or if you just want something you think of the
Starting point is 02:15:42 concept in general we still have some audio issues to work on my audio sounded better than jakes but we're working on it hey but he's rocking with you and you're rocking with him you feel me like that's i would like a nice lush 1090 jake Photoshop oh yeah i think that that that Lush 90J show. 1090 lush, baby. As long as we're tearing into Josh and the thumbnail guy, where the fuck is my promo assets for the 1090J Patreon interview? Went live today and I still don't have the assets and I'm pissed.
Starting point is 02:16:10 Is it Thumb-Cus? Yes. Okay. I can't say. He's crawling around in the bush looking for his phone still. No, he had some family issues, real personal that you should excuse that. I hate when they have a good excuse. This is a good one.
Starting point is 02:16:24 Okay. That makes sense. Okay. Anything else we should touch on? Bosanova is dressed as Ice Spice And if he shaved his mustache and put on a skirt I'd be turned on I'm just going to say that That's real but uh
Starting point is 02:16:37 Low job sluts But he But he's wearing normal human clothes He doesn't have like a gray mini skirt on Which is what I was kind of hoping That's what I thought about dressing like Ice Spice for Halloween But then I thought about What my body would look like
Starting point is 02:16:52 In a gray mini skirt And really look at this angle Imagine me wearing a dress Like they're gonna see my dick the whole fucking time. I guess I'll wear underwear. But if I'm wearing a miniskirt, I can't want underwear. You're going to be able to see the boxer. Man, I've seen boss at the party. Shout out the boss will come in to Kelvin. What party? The big chief party. You were invited, but we know you weren't going to go.
Starting point is 02:17:13 I didn't know. Yeah. Did he, I would have gone. Did he cross dress? No, he didn't cross dress on? You didn't have a dress on? No, he didn't have a dress on. But I've seen him, I was like, oh, you were Ice Spice. You know what I'm saying? I'd be madder than fuck. Shout out of Riley for coming to it. It wasn't that your birthday, too? She had a time. But you know what? I'm just adding it up. Bossa dress is ice vice and now Adam's a munch. I'll be really with the blicky at the Rock Nation brunch. I like frosted flakes, but I don't like Captain Crunch. And I know you used to be a stripper. I got more than a hunch. And used to drink meth and now you've got a hunch. A.D. Bend over. Let me eat that ass for lunch.
Starting point is 02:18:00 If you ever try to bend me over, your life I will punch. I'm the type to show up at your party and beat off in the Hawaiian punch. You're the type to beat off because your dick is a stump. I'm the type to stretch my dick out by the lake. You're the type to fuck Jake from State Farm. But I heard that you still masturbate to Drake. Flaco. Harry Potter.
Starting point is 02:18:26 With a taco. Harry Potter. Harry Potter. Shout out to Trevor Potter. Or Porter. Or Porter. Give me a quarter. I'm trying to smoke a quarter.
Starting point is 02:18:38 Of what? Meth. Yes. Zaza. Zaza. Meth? I got the Zaza meth. You got Zaza breath.
Starting point is 02:18:49 You are broke bitch eating Baja Fresh. That's a good one. I thought Baja Fresh was a nice restaurant when I met my girl. It's like mint here. Baja fresh. It's trash. I'm just saying it's better than going to like a dry-through. It's a little off-fresh. It's like
Starting point is 02:19:09 Chipotle. Yeah. No, but it's worse. Yeah, it is worse. It's worse. Like, I was ordering it and thinking that it was like a nice restaurant. I think it's the same as Chipotle. See, I fuck with Chipotle. I don't care what anybody says. Like, you have dry-through, then you have like the mid-tier and then it's like your restaurant. Here's the thing about
Starting point is 02:19:25 Baja Fresh. Like, in reality, it tastes good. It's just there's nothing Mexican about it. But that's a Baja Fresh. Give me a deal. I feel strongly that to enjoy food, there does not need to be any connection to the food that it actually is originating from. I mean, if it tastes good, it's good. I've been around the world, and I've seen how the Thai food in America is nothing like the Thai food in Thailand and the Chinese food in America. There's nothing like the Chinese food. Are there influences or stylistic flourishes inspired by those countries?
Starting point is 02:19:55 Yeah. But, I mean, nobody's fucking, I mean, well, no, food in Mexico is amazing. And a lot of Mexican food I mean really though when you look at Chipotle It's not that different No food of Mexico was different Oh it's insane yeah but I'm saying like Just what it is at Chipotle
Starting point is 02:20:12 It might be like a different style Have you ever been to Hong Kong? I don't mean the city I mean Hong Kong Oh I did I heard is crazy I fucked a stripper in there with my ex Like the best night of my life
Starting point is 02:20:22 I don't know why I ever left Hong Kong Like why I'm not there right now Hong Kong is a strip club in Tijuana We should all go there Where you can fuck Yeah it's not just just a strip club. Can we bring Duna?
Starting point is 02:20:32 You can knock them down. Bro. Duno's cousin is the bouncer. If it's for work, I guess I have to go. Yeah. Lena's going to make me fuck some strippers with a condomone. Bro, like, you can go, like, you really can go the distance that, like, they're not tripping in the slightest at Hong Kong. And they're bad.
Starting point is 02:20:50 You feel me? Like, Eric bitch looking like Selena. What? I was in Tijuana with my ex, right? 2011. And we're at the bar. And she says to the bartender, do you know where I can get some coat? and he just pulls out coke from the table
Starting point is 02:21:03 and he goes that would be 20 bucks he just sells this coke at this random bar she goes if we want to go to strip club where should we go? He tells us to go to Hong Kong we go up in there bro we are blown out of our fucking minds we're so turnt off doing this fucking Mexican Coke
Starting point is 02:21:18 right we get to the strip club and some people might have heard this story before I'll tell you bless it and so we go there the stripper grabs my chick and pulls her on stage and starts fucking pulling her skirt up, starts eating her ass on stage, sucking her titty's pulling out. My girl keeps looking back at me, right?
Starting point is 02:21:37 And so she grabs me by the hand, pulls me up on stage. The fucking stripper yanks my pants down. All of a sudden, my girl is giving me head on stage in the Mexican strip club, except I'm so coked out that my dick won't get hard. So she's sucking my limp-ass dick, right? And then like the song ends. And, oh, it's like a whipped cream show on the stage. So the girls are all covering a whipped cream.
Starting point is 02:21:59 My pants are getting all fucking. dirty with a whipped cream whatever but then my high ass gets off stage and as i'm getting off i realize my phone is gone my phone fell out of my fucking pants pocket as i was getting on stage to get my dick my limp dick in a coke cloud at the strip club right and so my phone's gone and i'm so pissed that i just walk over to the bathroom i dump out the whole rest of the coke and just just snort like a fucking massive mound of it off my hand right retaliation and then my chick my chick my chick my chick To her credit, she knows how pissed off I'm about losing my phone. So she goes to one of the employees.
Starting point is 02:22:35 She goes, you owe me a private room with a bunch of girls right now because he just lost his phone and you're the one who told us to get us up on stage or whatever because he had allowed us to get on stage or whatever. So we go into the back room and then all of a sudden I got a condom on and I'm just banging this random Mexican strippers slash prostitute with my girl in the back of the strip club. And that was my first Tijuana experience. I and her were very close after that for a while.
Starting point is 02:23:00 that's like um it might have been my first girl girl three so i'm gonna be honest with you do that setting that's the precursor that's like literally the infancy of plug talk way before it happened and i remember there was two girls that were giving us lap dances right and there's one creepy dude who works there sitting in the corner right and my girl goes to one of the chicks the hotter one and she goes how much for him to have sex with you right now and she was like four hundred dollars and she asked the other girl the other girl said 50 dollars like obviously isn't pesos or whatever, but it was like the exchange rate. And so she just like kicks the hot girl out and we bang the other girl for 50 bucks.
Starting point is 02:23:37 And I like that because that's really like, that's all I'm trying to live my life. That's called a Tijuana Crop Duster. Is it? No. Now it is. All right. Thank you to everybody watch this. Nojumper.com if you want to get tickets to the live show.
Starting point is 02:23:51 November 18. Perhaps a flyer will come out in the near future that says featuring Lush. Yeah, with Lush's picture on it. Yeah. And, uh, yeah. Shout out to everybody. Nojumper.com if you want to cop tickets. Go follow me, Adam 22, and No Jumper on TikTok.
Starting point is 02:24:06 And much, much more. Check these guys out, community clips, all that. No Jumper. Peace. We about this, biotch.

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