No Jumper - The No Jumper Show Ep 185

Episode Date: February 16, 2023

The guys talk about the latest updates at No Jumper, House Phone, Potlord, Mean Fox, MGK, and more. ----- 00:00 Intro 3:33 - Adam talks about plans to take Lena snowboarding, AD says he’s afraid to go snowboarding and busting his a** 7:29 - TRell says he’s never received a Valentine’s Day gift  10:43 - Guy’s talks about Molly, DJ Drama saying “I just wanna rock” replaced Dreams and Nightmares, Adam says the song is boring 14:14 - Adam ask TRell if he would go to the club 2-3 nights of week if they were giving him a bag, AD on inviting Smac to the club  20:05 - TRell spots that Adam is rocking is wedding ring already, getting 22 chain from Lena back in the day, her family being in the jewelry industry + AD speaks on getting the biggest Big Chief chain  27:02 - Super Bowl, Rihanna takes, TRell says she did exceptionally well for being pregnant and not being on stage in a long time  27:45 - Donald Trump comments on Rihanna’s performance and stylist, guys compare performance to Dr Dre’s performance last year  35:02 - Adam talks Sam Smiths Grammy performance being satanic 39:02 - Adam talks Dorito corporation going hard to make sure Jack Harlow wasn’t painted as white supremacist  40:36 - Pat Mahomes father walking through the tunnel saying he’s smoking Philly Blunts tonight after chiefs Super Bowl win  43:27 - Adam says Migos fight backstage may have rubbed Grammy’s wrong way  44:26 - Adam listening to Harry Styles Album vs Beyoncé  Album, says Harry Styles album was better  46:15 - TRell says Yatchy’s new album is smooth, guys talk about him going a different route, Yatchy selling 36k units first week  56:02 - Does the cream rise to the top in music, hip hop, Adam says Drakeo didn’t have mass appeal and wouldn’t have become as big as King Von and Lil Durk  1:07:16 - Top streaming albums of the year to date  1:16:40 - Adam ask the guys if they listened to Ice Spice’s new album, talks about why he likes the album  1:18:39 - Adam wanting more substance from Drill rappers, TRell says he doesn’t like any of that sh*t  1:21:32 - Guys talk about rap being bland right now, Adam on R&B being dead, Hip hop turning into podcasting  1:25:45 - Adam says large percentage of hip hop fans pivoted to YouTube and podcasting  1:26:39 - Adam brings up Housephone hooking up with Lena early on before they got serious + Adam says he was tired of people trying to hold it over their head  1:28:50 - AD talks about how things are different in Adam’s situation vs theirs, TRell ask why would you want to mess with someone who the homie hooked up with  1:32:48 - TRell talks about how Heather knew Lil wayne and he can give that a pass, says Heather will never say if she really slept with Wayne  1:35:04 - Adam on asking Lena about every famous guy/guys he knew she hooked up with  1:39:52 - Adam talks about how Lena feels about the secret coming out  1:41:02 - TRell talks about Lena and Housephone both being bought into drama, commends Potlord and Blazzy + Adam reiterates for the record that Potlord was fired even though he wasn’t getting paid  1:43:11 - Adam ask AD if he will punch Sharp in the face for Wack100, AD responds  1:45:52 - AD explains him and Wack’s relationship, says Wack has done a lot for him career-wise, says Sharp is his boy so he would try to squash it  1:49:26 - AD talks about minorities getting so offended over the “employee” word, guys talk about how being en “employee” isn’t a bad thing  1:56:10 - TRell on taking a lot of slack for getting rid of Milk for sake of Adam’s feelings  1:58:09 - Adam wants to go back to pre-recorded shows, TRell may or may not want to be the 4th mic on Tuesday  2:02:03 - Guys talk about MGK going from rap to punk  2:08:25 - TRell ask Adam what if Lena unfollows everyone and still follows Housephone  2:11:03 - Is Russ in White rapper category?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper. Coolest podcast. Look, I can do the intro because of the fact that we're not live. Because normally, you know, that awkward thing that we're doing where we're sort of like looking around, trying to figure out, like looking for Josh's thumb up in the air and stuff. So are you live right now? No, we're not live, but we're recording. I'm about saying, I still want to do it. What?

Look like he live and look around. Just look over it, Josh, and wait for the thumb. I'm going to be honest with you. All right, so first off, the reason why we're doing this is because tomorrow's Valentine's Day and at least 75% of the me. men who you see on camera right now have Valentine's. Lush? I'm sending a bunch of flowers to a bunch of different girls. That's smart.

He got a Valentine. Pamela right here. Pamela, Henderson. We're going to go crazy tomorrow. Pamela Harris. No, low-key. I got plans tonight.

Oh, you celebrate early. We're going to be a right. I was like, earlier I was saying, oh, this is going to be funny because we can expose are Valentine's Day presents because this isn't going to come out until Tuesday night. And I think I figured out pretty quickly that, like, perhaps my Valentine's Day is a little bit more involved than you guys. Mine is, like, way more involved than yours.

I'm just glad, personally, that my... Now you have to stand on it. Defend it. Explain it. Break it down, boys. I got a whole thing planned. I don't even... Just in case this might leak before, I don't want it's supposed it.

But if it did... It wouldn't be the first thing. If what is that leaks at no jumper, you know... No, but let me get... We hungry episodes have been leaked here. That is true. That is true. That was you, though.

But I'm going to blame... I'm going to blame... No, I'm going to just air it out because I was like... I've done too many holidays where I did, like, you know, handbag dinner. Because that's solid. That's, like, good enough, right? Even the handbags a lot. You just get flowers.

But I felt like I had to do something like more of an experience. So I'm taking her snowboarding for the day, where she's never done before. I know her. I know she likes doing new things. She likes, you know, new stuff like that. She likes physical stuff where we can't be on our phone where we're out in nature and stuff. So I got the full day of snowboarding.

It's crazy, too, because my girl wants to go to the snow, but I'm kind of afraid of busts my ass snowboarding because I've never been snowboarding. You've been at the first day you go snowboarding. You're spending with your ass in snow. See? Because my boys, man, shout out to Big Chief of them. They go, they probably go like twice a month now, bro.

Once you pick it up, you straight. But the first day or two, you're, you're. you're going to be. I decided not to bring the kid. Yeah, Valentine's Day. No, but I've seen people bringing their like three-year-olds, two-year-olds out snowboarding and kind of like holding them up and like letting them go down the hill and it's pretty cute, but I don't think I'm ready for that.

Yeah, no, Astro go down that hill. I'm going to be chasing that. It's called the avalanche. I mean, it's kind of like, you know, it's kind of difficult for me because her birthday is on the second and then I have Valentine's Day right after that. So it's like, and for us, right, we just went to Mexico, you know, we spent a week out there. and then I have to come back and then spend like the plan another, you know what I'm saying?

You know something like for Valentine's Day. But this year, I'm just working. I'm just doing so much and I forgot. I'm like, Valentine's Day is next week? I'm like, shit. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, I don't have no dinner reservations. I don't have no present.

I'm not even like me. I have nothing. But is she going to give you a break because of the fact that you just went away with her for a week or whatever? Yeah, she'll get. she doesn't really care, but usually I just call, like, Jeff Lathen for some flowers. He always, like, come in, like, the clutch. Or I got, like, this other company that, you know, that comes in a clutch for me. But after that, I mean, but if you don't, like, plan dinner, like, two weeks ahead, it's over.

It's over. You're done. Oh, yeah. You try to do that on, like, two days notice in L.A. Yeah, it's, like, two days notice here is, like, don't even, they're not even picking up the phone. They're going to a matter of fact. Yeah, so it's like, I don't know. Might as well get you a double, double.

Yeah, you're going to have to take her to Chipole. You go to in and out. Maybe I can go to cheesecake. You know what I mean? Every day is Valentine's, babe. Yeah, I mean. I love you every day. I mean, it's crazy.

It is a double standard out here because why don't we get any Valentine's Day gifts? She did get me something, but I'm assuming. Normally when I look at like how much she spends versus how much I spend, an order of magnitude difference. Well, you know how there's like every day is technically a specific day? There is a day, and I'm not sure what the date is. We should have this intrinsically memorandum. by now, but there is steak and

day. Really? Yeah, there is a stake in a day. So, ladies, get right. What day is this? I don't know specifically. Every day is steak and if that could be looked up. Yeah, Jamie. What's going on?

He said what? March 14. March 14. Oh, a mere one month away. That's actually perfect. They picked a good date because it's right out of your balance. I like it. Yeah, that's crazy. I got some gifts. For you or? For me. I already know what I'm getting. What?

Well, she bought me a refrigerator and she put the community sticker on there. And she got me with a PlayStation controller that I wanted and some other two. They're like a big kid. Yeah. He's like that eighth grade of Christmas. I like it. That sounds like, though. Yeah.

That sounds like new love to me. New? Because you've been together with 10 years? 12. Oh, my God. I've been together almost seven. So. You in the middle.

I'm right out of shit to do. But you're on like a year two. I'm on your two. I mean... That's new love, man. I mean, two years from now? That's great. I don't think I never even received a Valentine Day gift.

Really? I'm never even got a Valentine Day gift. It's her birth month. Women celebrate birth months. They do. They don't do birthdays. They do birth months. For sure.

I've never got a fucking Valentine's Day gift. I bet she would be watching this TV right now screaming because she's probably bought you stuff that you just forgot about because you're a normal dude like me who like doesn't relate. Like, I don't need anything. I don't really want anything. I probably couldn't name a Valentine's Day present either. Because all the gifts kind of just blend together, I'm real. Unless you're a kid and you can just get...

Oh, when you're a kid, it's different because you don't have purchasing power as a kid. Okay, you know what my girl told me that I should do it and I tell her the time. I'm like, listen, I didn't grow up like how you grew up. She's like, you're supposed to get your daughter flowers every Valentine's Day. And I was like, maybe I should start doing that. My girl was just saying something like this to me, too. She said that every Valentine's day her dad would get her like something cute, like a little toy or something, and it would make her feel special. It's like, oh, not just mom's getting something.

I'm getting something. So there's another thing I got to think about. So what about if you have a son like me, then I've got. Hell no, you can't get it nothing. My daughter gets something, but this is kids, though. These are children. He's not going to understand. He's not looking at it as a Valentine's guy.

He's looking at it as he got a toy and I didn't. And your kids, they're close. They're real close and age. They like right there next to each other. What are you going to tell him? Like, oh, no, it's a girl holiday. I can't get you anything. That'd be gay.

You can't say that? That's exactly what you said. That's exactly what you say. I'm not telling you. I can't say that to my son. I ain't saying that to my son. What I'm going to just do is not buy my daughter nothing. You know what I mean?

We ain't going that route. What do you get your son? Here, son. It's pink. He wore his Valentine's Day outfit. I like that. Yeah. No, but your daughter's a perfect age for you to be getting presents like that.

Well, I got to especially. because then it'll put you back in her favorite rapper conversation, and it won't be all about it. I'm out of here. NBA young boy. Yeah. NBA young boy took the cake. She can change her cash app name to that shit too, so she's out of here.

I should hit up young boy and be like, hey, I know a 13-year-old girl who wants to join 4K, Tray. What do you think? Okay, don't do that. But if you can get, you can have him say, you know, hello Armani. That'd be a bad of the year. What do you guys think the perfect Valentine Day is for a girl? What do you think they like will love? They need flowers for sure

A nice dinner They all like fucking jury and shit I just feel like with my girl at least She wants a day where it's obvious That I really took the day off To spend time with her To not be thinking about business And also a day where she doesn't have to be thinking

About the kid the whole day Because that's like a bigger part of her life Than my life So I feel like honestly The snowboarding thing is probably gonna accomplish What I'm trying to get at Yeah, that sounds solid Maya

And this is a surprise She has no idea yeah My best homie is a DJ, right? And every year he would drop a Valentine's Day mix. Shows my little brother, Smokey Martinez. He would drop a Valentine's Day mix. So all I would do every year is pop Molly with my bitch and listen to the Valentine's Day mix and order in.

And it was amazing. You ordered food off Molly? Hell yeah. I never got that deep into it. Every time I ever did a Molly, I was not thinking about food. Yeah, I was trying to party. It makes everything better. Damn, you was on Molly?

I just want to rock. I was going crazy. Yo, did you... This is old gossip, but do you see DJ Drama saying that that is the new song of Philadelphia and that Meek Mill's intro got retired? I did see that.

Meek Mill's intro was never get retired. We have not had enough time to be able to tell how powerful I just want to rock is going to be. That's the recency effect. That's revisionist history. But I will say, like, I've been going back into the clubs and shit

and the fact that I'm hearing that, West Coast DJ's playing that, and people in the crowd is like super, super fucking with that. That's amazing. It's more of a turn-up record than the Meek Mill thing is. It's like a whole different,

it's two different vibes. And let's be real, the Meek Mill record sounds old as hell now. It's not. No, it does not. No, that Uzi's song, that sounds like right now. All the music is so fast.

All the rap music has turned into EDM damn near. The BPM has gotten insane. It's like that song sounds like the perfect. like high pitch, nearly like hyper pop type sound that people have been working with the last few years. If you turn on Meek Mill right after that, the whole club for the turn. But it sounds so rapy. Yeah, but rap is, hip-hop is not that rapy anymore.

And you know what? That intro is like the ultimate, like, club song. Like, when you want the club to get super, super lit and the bottles is coming out and shit like that, they play that shit. Because as soon as that motherfucker being dropped. Wait a minute. It's a couple of songs. The intro is a timeless classic club.

record, Finito by Chief Keith is another one. You can play that anywhere, anytime. People are going to be screaming that shit out. And even Thursday out by T. Griggs, they still play that shit like it's no. When that nigga said, I did shit with Mariah. Yep. I don't want to go to- Everybody in the club felt that in their soul.

I don't want to go to any club where they're still playing those fucking songs. Every club plays out. You don't go to the club. I know. But if I did, I would want them to play like that Uzi song and not a bunch of songs from eight years ago. Beyond just the club, though, if you're like, if you're in the hood, if you're on the block and that Meek song comes on. That's going to resonate waiting for.

Find a new block. That's boring as fuck. No, that's classic. I mean S5 and the Chili Man on my block. Where I'm from. S5 and Chili Man, bet not fucking come on on my block. Nigger. Shame on.

I mean, but shout out to you guys. They do right thing. That's cool. Yeah, shout out. Why can't they come to your block? They can come on, but I'm saying, I need the other songs other than, you know what I'm saying? The newest shit, you feel me? And it's funny you mentioned that T-Gris song because they literally, it's

It's the same format, basically, as the Meek record as it starts out, no drums, all instrumental, builds up, and then when that, you feel me, Joy, roll, bitch, but the money that shit's six mile. That shit hits so hard. Like, out of, bro, if you go to 50 clubs, you're going to hear Meek song out of at least 42 of them. Imagine it of having a spin a club for three hours, and all you're talking about is one to listen to his little Uzi song.

He ain't going to make it. That's one song. You're going to... Uzi got a catalog. Ousey probably has a catalog. Ozy probably has like 40 songs that will go crazy in the club. Drake, Future. See, nightclubs versus...

I know it's different, but... Nightclubs versus, like, performances and stadiums is different. You feel me? The nightclub songs and sounds is... Certain shit ain't going to get played. No. But that's why I said. For that to be the temple that it is on the West Coast...

And it's getting bad. I've heard them play that shit like four times yesterday. How would you feel if somebody offered you a gig, they were like, we need you to come to the club. four nights a week. You got show up at, you know, 10.30 p.m. and you got to stick around until, like, you know, three in the morning. I used to do that every day for free.

I know, but I'm asking T.rell because he's a grown-up. Would you actually, would you do that? Because to me, it would have to be so much money for me to want to, like, completely destroy my routine that I'm living every day, and I don't know if I could do it. No. It would be tough. I would say hollering. I didn't even answer the phone for AD last night.

So did it. Suspect tried to send me a song last night. night at like 11. I'm looking at my phone right before I go to bed like, I am not listening the song you just recorded. I can't do this.

I got to tell him to rule I don't answer past eight. I'll answer it. No, you want to know what suspect is the most flagrant out of all y'all is because he's the only person I know who when my phone is on

Do Not Disturb, he hits Notify Anyway on every text. I didn't even know you can do that. It says it right there. You do not. No, not to you, but I still do it. I think I did it to do no other day. If it's really important,

I totally back it. But like, Like the fact that he'll do it for whatever, I kind of admire the ingenuity. That makes me want to listen to the song more, I guess. See, T.Rail is the old guy. Smack is the spring chicken, man. You feel me? You call Smack?

He's coming. Yeah, he's coming. He's coming. Yeah, he's going crazy, too. I'm like, let me call T.Rail and be like, you want to come to the club? You know what I'm saying? See if you want to come. Because I know he's going on Wednesday, he's going to be like, oh, you invite me to the club.

You want to do this. So I said, let me get ahead of it. Let me call this, nigga. He don't answer the phone first. I'm like, hit me, bitch. Don't do that. And then I'm like, okay, then smack fucking pops up. He's like, why you didn't tell me?

I was like, bro, I hit T.Rill. He was mad. He didn't get him to go to the club? Who, Smack? He was mad. You didn't hit Smack up? You feel me? Because I was assuming I'm like, T.R.

Say he was at Q House. So I was like, oh, they probably at Q House. They didn't want to come to the club. That's amazing to me that Smack is just like ready to go 10 p.m. on a random night. And he's just looking for something to do, down to do whatever. And then he's mad if he doesn't get the invite to the club. Because to me, I would probably be kind of almost like more annoyed if you did invite me because then I'd have to be dealing with the fomo and thinking about the fact that I'm not going. He had enough energy because he slept through the whole Super Bowl.

I've seen. Now did I know. Delta Munchy things we had. That's what had him sleeping? What? He ate like six, seven of those things because it tastes like candy. He was smack. Oh, on our Friday stream, when I clicked in stream, he went to sleep and never left.

He just stayed. He slept there the whole next day. How you feel about that as kind of like a boss entrepreneur of this whole back on big game? He got through the stream. That's all that was important. It was after. It was after. When I hit in stream, boom, he went straight to sleep.

He woke up the next day. He gave him some breakfast. He went home. He still was asleep. Super Bowl, nigga. He slept through all of that shit, nigga. What did you eat for breakfast? Today?

Nothing. A red bull and a donut. Neither. You guys disgust me. Okay. I was just going to comment on how I see so many people in here eating chips for breakfast. But then you guys haven't even I ain't going to

I used to do that You got to sit here at fucking 1030 Then you come in here Like The pop chips I'm like these a little more healthier than Doritos

I like to eat less flavors That's my goal though I want to get y'all On a healthy breakfast routine Nick you got me on a meal prep now I am on a healthy breakfast routine You mess my routine up

Oh because you're here Yeah You'll be asleep right now No I would be at the You get up early Right? Yeah, I get up early.

If you have kids and you don't get up early, then you're a sociopath. I mean, I would have cooked breakfast. I would have been hanging out with Heather just a little bit. You know, my eggs and bacon and a little, you know, are you making eggs and making? Sometimes. I'm really good at eggs. I'm telling you.

Isn't there an egg shortage right now? Yeah, they're hell of expensive and hard to find. I think it's getting better, though. Shout out the T-Rill's. I don't need eggs, though. Shout out of T-Rails kids, though. Because when he was out of town, I came to his house, his daughter was right at the door.

Like, she made sure. I was like, damn. What? She was going to kick you out? No, no, she's seen who it was. You feel me? And she's like, oh, yeah, go ahead, go do your thing. You feel me?

But I was like, damn, his kids are trained like ninjas over there, bro. They were about to let me just walk in the house. Exx stage left. No, because I'm like, I'm like, do I knock? I'm like, smack and answer it? I'm like, do I just walk in a homey house? Do you ever hold up a picture of, like, a gang member and be like, hey, if anyone who comes to the house looks like this, don't let him in?

No, I'm starting a gun train him now. How old was she? Like 13? Seven. Oh, seven-year-old is getting gun trained. Shout to Derek Grace because he teaches his, you see his daughter's he over there. They know how to take everything down.

They, bro, safety all the way. Like, gun safety. I ain't taking my daughter because of this young boy shit right now. I just taught my daughter out to shake hands. Actually, we have five different greetings. We have the high five, the pound, the low five, the handshake, and then the hug. And I'll, like, do the whole little routine. Me and my seven-year-old got the whole little LeBron.

thing here and with the who that's fire you know what I mean good look have a night's day at school so did you wind up getting her the gun or no no okay it was like a toy gun I said yeah I said that's out the question we ain't doing that yeah you can't do that if it was legal over here but I was hat

no no but I was happy though because I said look at young boy he's trying to change his life you know I'm saying he wants to be Mormon great timing he's he's bro the most perfect timing of all and she was like whatever Mormon why can't just join a normal religion She's like, I like your old shit.

I like his old shit better. Basically. Yeah. I don't like nails painted young boy. Oh, she doesn't like Playboy Cardi, young boy, the new version. No, but she's like, he gave that up, right? We ain't seen him in makeup in a while, right? Yeah.

It's been a few months. It's been a few months. Let's just leave that in the past. I see you getting closer to religion. I see you got your wedding ring on now. Let's drop it now. Wow, I got a band on. Let's drop it.

You know what I'm saying? You got one? No, I don't got one of those. I'm wearing it earlier than I'm supposed to. I just like the idea. being somebody's property. Are you getting used to it? I thought that was that one thing.

I just like it because I feel like I'm going to be, like I feel like it's a flex. And normally I don't care about flexing like in the sense that like I don't want to have a chain on when I go to the mall or whatever. But with this, I noticed the cashier kind of looking at it and realizing I'm off the market. I kind of like that feeling. So you're trying to get at the cashier or what?

Bitch you was not off the market. What the fuck is you talking about? Okay. You're going to go fuck somebody this week. I'm off the market unless you join the pornographic industry. You'll be like, I can't have sex at you unless you want to film with me and my woman. You want to sign? And that brings up the question.

Are you, do you wear the ring during scenes or what's the protocol? I think you have to. I haven't had to make that decision yet, but I am like getting into the habit of just wearing it all the time because I know if I take it off. If I take it off to work out, I will lose it. It is absolutely getting lost. Unless I may be get into the routine or like putting it on my keychain, then I feel like I'm going to scratch it or some shit. So on a key chain? I've never heard of that before.

Or like, I have to. like have an exact spot where I put it so that I won't lose it, you know? I'm gonna buy me a band. Band. Yeah, see how I go. You didn't, uh, you haven't thought about it? Like, I like, I want, if when I, when I get a band, I just wanted to be all diamonds. I don't want it to be like little gold.

I feel that. I just wanted the simplest one. Shots. Shots. Yeah. It's a little gold. That's exactly what mine is. Shots.

A little tin care. Oh, my girl fucked it up. She ordered it with the wrong date on it. She ordered it. So we got the wrong day on it right now. It has like the date of our wedding or whatever. This is why I'm not supposed to be wearing it yet, but then the date is, she, she ordered it with a 2022 date on it.

So what if you lose that shit before the wedding? I mean, it was like $1,500, so I'll probably be all right, but. Okay, cool. But I'm not supposed to be wearing it right now. I'm just, like, seeing if I can get used to it. Because I've never, this is the most jewelry I ever, like, wore in my life. Like, I had a chain. Stop lying, though.

You had a 22 chain. I had a 22 chain that I wore for maybe, like, four days out of my whole life. So this has already, like, been on my body. Wasn't that, like, silver, though, the 22 chain? And then you had a grill. That was Lena going to her Armenian uncle and being like, hey, I started dating this guy. I want to get him a fucking chain. So he does jewelry.

She's got a bunch of jewelry making family members, yeah. All the Armos, they got one foot in that business. Oh, they all scammers, huh? Family full of scammers, huh? Wow. I guess she could put it, though. Not scammers, but like, I feel like if you sell jewelry, you're kind of like a scammer, right? Yeah, you're aluminum.

Marmini, homies. Wait, are you hating on the chain? That she looked aluminum. She spent too much money on that shit. I'll say that. Who? What a look aluminum? The 22 change?

It was all real diamonds. There's diamonds on that? You didn't look aluminum. I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. I got diamonds. What the fuck? Yeah. We can't even see it.

I need a microscope. You can see it. You got an alcoholic. You should flex the alcoholics t-shirt. Come on. Hey, they're trying to hate on our big chiefs. That bullshit you got on your dad? No, no.

I heard what Almighty said. I said, listen. What did he say? I said, this is the big boy? I said, this shit is heavy. Okay, you got the big boy. but then so he clowning me. You're getting another one.

Okay. You know what I'm saying? But that's cool. I love my little. Well, you're going to get him another one because that one's not big enough? No.

That shit, bro, that shit is heavy, bro. Like, people don't know. It's the grams of what makes shit more expensive. It's not because you can get some, you can get some little shit

that's very, very hollow. You feel me? But the weight of the shit is like, you know what I mean? I love it. Yeah. It's a gift. It's the thought that counts.

It's the thought that counts. He was just making fun of the chains for being small or something? I still got my shoes on, you know, that Lush gave me. I gotta wash them now. I feel like they done dilly now. I can't wash them, huh? My forces?

You can't wash forces. Bro, you don't wash white forces. You can clean them. You just go get some new ones. Oh, that's fucked up. $99, man. I finally found that other chain. They lasted a long time.

Which one? Remember the dude, give me a chain? Oh, yeah. Some. Oh, there more. I think I'm just going to give it a bell, because he'd been asking for it. Yeah, give it a bell, man. I can't bring myself to wear it.

I'm doing it up for you, man. That's not like your brand. Even that, I'm like... I know. It's like a different guy, huh? So I thought they had this ring for like fitness. Have you seen that shit? Yeah, I thought that was the fitness ring.

No, I've thought about that because I've tried wearing the woup bracelet, but I just don't, like, I just don't feel like it's giving me enough information. It tells me how much I sleep. It's like, I already know how much I sleep. I go to bed and I look at the clock and then I wake up and I look at the clock again. Which really, though, can I just complain? I've been on antibiotics for some penis stuff, obviously. the life of a porn star but my uh the antibiotics are whooping my stomach's ass like yesterday

was my last day and this morning because i also ate like shit of the super bowl party i had to wake up this morning at like 5 a.m. take a shit get back in bed just long enough to start to fall asleep by 520 up got to take another shit it's just the fucking diarrhea like my stomach was so good throughout this diet and then all these antibiotics have just ruined me so I'm so excited to be off it so i can get on the probiotics and start reforming fortifying my gut. But you're losing weight, though, because of the diarrhea, no? You don't want to lose weight like that.

No. That's just water. Shout to probiotics, too. You went to a Super Bowl party? Her family. Oh, okay. They love sports. Walked up in there.

Uncle Vic likes sports. Nobody else seems like they're going to give a shit. But I was fucking mashing. They had, like, the biggest pizza ever. You see that on my story? Yeah. That pizza is fucking gigantic. I had some wings, you know, had some pie, some cake afterwards.

But my stomach does not fuck with it. Who's the best family? family member and her family that you just really love. Uncle Vick sounds fire. Probably her grandma honestly. Grandma? Grandma. What's her name? You don't know life until you know an 88 year old Armenian woman. What's her grandma name? Mima. No. What's her government? What's her real name? I don't know. We don't got that far. He don't know. Her grandma name is hilarious. I've never, I don't think anyone has ever even told me her name. Do you think you just be like, Mima? Mi maima. Yeah. She turned to She turned into my grandma right away.

What's her mom's name? Get your white ass out of you. I do know that, but I don't want to get too far into this. What's her mom's name? Yeah, we can't do that. Matter of fact, you're right, stop. Because these people are investigating. They're going to find her Facebook.

They're going to find her Facebook. Oh, my God. Don't get many of them. Man, stall Mima out. Come on. Yes. You think Mimar watches No Jumper? Absolutely not.

Absolutely not. She definitely don't watch Plug. Does she do you do, be a porn? I don't know. I hope not. I don't think, I don't think, I think that she might just think that, like, I'm a rich guy and that I take care of her from what I can tell. Some truth to that. Yeah.

Somewhat. She don't make our own money. Damn. Mima. That's great. Finding Mima. J.K. But so, the first question is, how was you guys as Super Bowls?

And then the second question is, what did you think of Rihanna? first of all my Super Bowl with excellent and Rihanna she did very well I think she did exceptionally well given the fact that she was pregnant as well and she hasn't performed in a long time

and on this big stage she did a very very good job everybody that's giving her this you know this backlash for some reason I have no fucking idea why I mean because there's not like a lot of performers that's going crazy like on a fucking

Beyonce and Chris Brown level that can fucking do backflips on stage. Well, let me just give you the word on her performance from one of the most important cultural creators in the country. Donald J. Trump said, Epic fail. Rihanna gave without question the single worst

halftop show in Super Bowl history. This after insulting far more than half our nation, which is already in serious decline with her foul and insulting language. Also, so much for her stylist. And he's... I kind of... kind of miss him. When I read that, I was like, we need this guy back on Twitter.

He wanted Little Pump instead. Little Pimp. Little Pimp. This is the same guy who also said the NFL in itself, just in its entirety was just like declining, going downhill. Ratings were going down. You know what I'm saying? Nobody watches the NFL anyway. So, I mean, we really just can't even, he's just funny at this point. But him to take the time about to say that about Rihanna, it's just whatever, you know what I'm saying? But Kodak said it too. I mean, Kodak is his boy. He got him out of just. you.

He Ryan with his own. Oh my God, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, Ryan with his own. When I was going through Twitter, though, I was seeing this insane polarization where I felt like probably like 80% of the people I follow thought it was one of the best halftime shows ever

and maybe like 10 or 20% of people were like really upset about it and thought it was really bad. And I don't really understand what they could think was that bad about it. Like, obviously she's not going to be doing backflips. She's fucking pregnant, which that is part of the performance. She came out pregnant. That was pretty impressive.

Like just, wow. What an amazing way to announce this. She got the platforms going up in there. She got 100 different dancers. Was it as entertaining to me as last years where it's like Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, M&F? And this bitch right here. Maybe not as much, but I still thought it was pretty dope. This bitch right here said last Super Bowl was terrible performance.

I said, what? This is the best one of the best things I ever seen. The best ever, bro. Compton court building on the fucking NFL film. Snoop cropping. Come on. That was a nice show. Rihanna kid compete with that.

Look, look. You got Dre, Snoop, Kedric, Mary J. Blige, and 50. Br, she went out there by herself, but I'm saying as a performance, like, I didn't see, like, all those dance. Of course, Snoop, Dr. Dre 50 is going to be cool. We're going to see him watching. 50 as an old beast vampire. Come on. I mean, but you put Gianna up against them, all of them.

I'm like, come on. Get out of here. Like, it wasn't that crazy. I just wanted to see fucking Dr. Dre and Snoop Dog got the Super Bowl, but it wasn't that crazy. I'm not even going to lie to you. Like, I'm not, like, it wasn't that crazy. But if you're chucking up to see, during one 15-minute performance, you give me literally five, smoking a blunt.

Five of the greatest hip-hop slash R&B performers of all time within the course of 15 minutes. That to me did, like, I remember the energy when I watched that versus the energy when I watched Rihanna. And yes, everybody was pretty captivated by the Rihanna set and everything. But let's be real, like bringing out M&M and then 50 and Mary J. Blatch. I mean, that is kind of a different. playing the drums and shit too. Okay, but this is the question, should Rihanna have brought out a male guest? Or was it more badass that she did the whole thing by herself?

We just talked about that. They was not about the lit Kanye come out. Let's get that out the way. The politics behind her bringing out all these male artists that featured on her songs was like, it's non-existent. I mean, Hove could have done it. Hove booked the damn thing. Nigger, A-Sab a real nigga. He's like, you ain't bringing Drake on stage.

You ain't bringing CB. Anybody you fucked with. you do this shit by yourself. The pregnancy is going to speak for herself, and I ain't going to lie. She was not going to bring Chris Brown out. I mean, shit. Not, she wants to go bring Drake out of her. Shout to CB because he gave her props and shit, too, you feel me?

But, like, I'll say this. I'll rank it top five, top six, like Super Bowl performances. Of all time? Yeah. I've only seen, like, two. It's definitely a top ten for show. Yesterday's? Yeah.

Bro, you got some, you got some big performances. Number one. Michael Jackson? Number one is Prince. Number two, Michael Jackson. This is all news to me. I don't remember any of this shit. Prince performing Purple Rain while it was literally raining.

You can't front. What year are we talking here? That was like a few years. That was like 10 years ago. 10 years ago. Yeah. I never even knew there was a Super Bowl halftime show until like a couple years ago. That's just so out of my super bowl.

Let me do that shit forever. Super Bowl is the biggest sporting event ever. The Beyonce one was crazy. Beyonce is crazy. The weekend. Weekend was crazy. Shakira and J-Lo was crazy. Bruno Mars was crazy.

like I've functioned with all the, you two back in the day, super hard. Come on. The more you say all this, the more confident I am that the shady aftermath version was probably the best one. Oh, yeah, no. I'll put that for show. That's like number three. Getting M&M to do anything ever is like so unbelievably difficult that, to me, that

kind of stands alone. Okay, so let's go back to Rihanna, having Kanye come out. Absolutely not. It wasn't happening. A JZ come out. She could have Drake come out. It wasn't happening. Chris Brown.

Wasn't happening. I don't think Jay Z. wanted to come out. I think he's kind of at a different point in his own mind. It would have been fire, though. Who else could she have come out that have been like great? Eminem, who came out last year? And I thought Eminem was going to go.

That would kind of make sense, but I also feel like there's no way Eminem is doing two Super Bowls in a row. The other one was last year, right? Yeah. I was kind of thinking it was a Brunel Mars in between or the weekend in between. And the fact that it was in L.A. last year. That's, come on. Oh, you can't.

The Combin's support building on the field. Right. See, I think T. He probably had a bad experience in Congress. He needs to live out there. He's hating on us right now. He got packed up. Because if Q was performing,

and they had Figaroa on the field, you have been crying. It's tight. They didn't have game on the field. They should have had games. 100%. I'm still holding them to that. And they wouldn't have 50.

They can't. Yeah, but that would have been so epic. This L.A., though. They didn't happen. If they did hate it or love it or this is how we do together, come on. They hate each other. I know.

So is Jay Z not performing because he runs, like, the NFL, like, committee or whatever? He changed their entire artist. He could do whatever he wants. You all know that Jay changed the entire booking process. Yeah. So before Jay Z was in that role, what they used to do is take three potential candidates and they all thought that they were going to be doing the Super Bowl halftime show and then at a certain point they would choose one.

And Jay came and let them know, like, just from a logistical standpoint that makes Absolutely no sense. Because what you're going to wind up doing. How's Jay-Z just going to show up and start telling them what's logistically plausible? Because remember when everything happened? I mean, he's the biggest hit. I trust the NFL. How is Jay-Z?

What the-Feld? I trust the NFL to plan the Super Bowl. How's Jay-Z going to come in and tell me like, well, listen, I've never had anything doing anything like this. But let me tell you exactly what to do it. Remember when everybody started taking a kneel? They were trying to repair. The knee?

Yeah. They were trying to repair and get, you know, take the kneel. They were trying to repair and, you know, I'm saying, get, you know, minorities on more. In the NFL, that doesn't mean you get to come in and tell me that my music booking process is, but he was right, because the thing is, when you do that, what you're going to wind up doing is alienate several superstars. There's literally not enough superstars of a caliber to be able to perform at the halftime show. What Jay was like is you select one person, you put them through the whole entire process, interview him several times, let him know.

And if something goes wrong, then you holler at somebody else. And guess what? He was motherfucking right. How was he right? You don't know. How, what do you mean? This year could have gone better. Maybe they would have had, you know,

Sam Smith, the fucking dude with the weird pants. Maybe they would have had him on deck. His fucking outfit was crazy. Maybe we could have got a satanic performance by one of these trans people I saw at the Gramies. You're right, good point. Oh, which one was so sanctanic that it just stood out to you? Sam Smith with those weird black bubble pants.

Yeah, that shit was crazy. Why was that satanic? I can't, you have worse outfits. I just wanted to drop-kick him. I wanted to run at full speed and just boom! And just watch how not practical for you. daily wife that outfit was. You just inflate that nigga.

Yo, I swear the bubble pans with satan. I was watching Rihanna. That's not Satanic. I actually thought like, oh, this is going to turn into a satanic performance. Like, there's going to be something that happens here because with the red, she just looked a little satanic. And I'm, I've been hanging out with you guys for a while, so I'm starting to be like really on alert for satanic stuff, really worried about emo stuff.

We've been hanging out with you. Yeah. Oh, so you are becoming more satanic and I'm becoming less. No, you're becoming. Grand Mason. Grand Mason. Look. She did this a couple times on this motherfucker.

We ain't seen it. They're ready to see it. The Illamati is real. Yeah, you're part of a Grand Mason, man. You guys didn't see that so many people were upset about the Satanic Grammy's performance. For sure. Always upset about that. I know, but they were kind of explicit with it this time.

He had the devil horns on with the year and me. But people are also like super. But also people are. But also people are blind to the fact that, that, like, for example, Hobb, when they were always saying that about him, he plays with that imagery to fuck with people further. Mr. Rock. Like the whole run-this-town video and all that, that was after people were saying he's part of the Illuminati.

But Jay-Z is an Illuminati guy, not a Satan guy. I believe that. From what I understand. Al-Mu-A-N-Ton-I-Y is just meant to control the world. They don't necessarily have faith in a certain god. Tell us more, because we know you have a memory. Fair enough. Yeah, you got the inside scoop, right?

Well, to be fair, I think all of this is completely made up. I'm just trying to get on you guys' level. I mean, I don't want to hear that shit, man. Okay, but this is my question, is, were you offended when Rihanna rubbed her vagina and smelled it on camera? That's what I wanted to see it. For like 800,000 million people.

I ain't going to lie. The whole performance, I didn't even care what she did. I just kept looking at it like, this bitch. But you know, you guys have daughters and kids and stuff, right? Like, how do you feel about them going to see her smelling her fucking bang on stage? I mean, what's the difference we heard between her doing that? and Mr. Old Town Road kissing another gay guy on stage during his performance and having multiple gay.

Kissing is like a pretty normal way of showing attention and smelling your vagina scent on stage. I bet you would say that great amazing. Yeah, I mean, come on. They're groping each other on stage. No, they weren't groping. They're just french. I'd rather see you.

Two dudes making out is different than a woman smelling her vagina. Michael Jackson was grabbing his dick every. Yeah, but he didn't smell it out. Yes, he did. I lost that. Oh! On stage? That was the thing he's with a...

And I'll be doing that. Like, when I'm about to get in the shower, I will, like, sometimes, like, rub my grunt a little bit and just, like, see where I'm at. But I don't want to see somebody to do that on stage at the fucking Super Bowl, bro. Well, you just did it right here for everybody to see. Yeah, but this is a dull audience.

What's crazy? No, it's not. This is a mature audience only. What's crazy or that? Or Timberlake popping out Janet Stitty. Oh, that was fucked up. That I have your naked by the end of this song? That's worse.

Because that's full frontal nudity. Did he admit he did that? they said it was a costume Eric. You know it's crazy? They said that they wanted to honor Janet Jackson the Grammys this year and to apologize for how they didn't

stick beside her when that shit happened but I guess she didn't go to like some early thing and then they ended up scrapping it. It's probably because Jay Z's told him to just pick one artist and stick with it. Janet Jackson is his amazing idea that Lutz was backing. It is an amazing idea. They could do Jenna next year. So you didn't

want Janet Jackson there? They could do Janet next year. Hey, you know what commercial really stood out to me? I've seen Jack Harlow in a commercial. And the first thing that comes to my mind is like, ooh, okay, this is interesting because I kind of don't see a lot of corporations like wanting straight white men to be their spokespeople these days. Are you kidding me?

That seems like that's kind of out of fashion. No, it's not. You are completely out of touch with the pop culture then because this is like every single commercial, like you almost will never see a heterosexual white guy being like the face of a corporation these days. But then... Why are you assuming Jack Harlow's gender?

Well, he's dating a woman as long as you guys want to say things that are so obviously not necessary. But then when you watch the actual commercial, every second of the video, he is flanked by people of various ethnicities and gay people, like clearly gay people. Like, they really went hard to make sure

that their promotion of Jack Harlow wasn't going to be used as them promoting white supremacy. And if you want to watch the commercial again to understand what I mean. Doritos commercial, right? Yeah. Wasn't Missy in there, too? Everybody. Everybody was not a white man.

Was Ray Kwan? Which one was Ray Kwan in? He was in a Super Bowl commercial this year. I don't think I saw that. But that would make sense to me, too. You know what was the best thing that I've seen as far as, like, not the performance, anything like that? They have like an Air Jordan movie coming out.

You seen the trailer for that shit on that? I was like, yeah. Hey. I mean, what is the, what is the, I think it's more, I want to say Mark Wahlberg. Oh, it's Matt Damon, my bad. Oh, from Fubu. Matt Damon. I'll tell you, by far, my favorite moment of the entire Super Bowl.

First of all, shouts to Patrick Mahomes' father, fool. That dude is such a G. This fool... I never knew who that guy was, because I always read his name in the My Book he adds, but then I saw him twist his ankle, and I'm like, oh, that's that fool. All right. Mahomes is pops. He played.

He played. He did, but his pops at the end of the game walking up with a blunt in his hand, like an unrolled with the actual Philly cigar. He was an eagle bag. Yeah, he said, I'm smoking on a Philly Blunt. We smoking a Philly Blunt after this game. He said that? Yes.

On TV? Yes. Wow. Fire. Now that I'm thinking about it, a lot of major companies do kind of like use the African-American ethnicity, you know what I'm saying, to promote their brands. But I'm trying to figure out why they kind of, is it exploiting? Because at this point, it's like the number of black people in America is like significantly

different, you know what I'm saying, than the amount of white people. Hispanics and and all these companies have like diversity like enforcement agents basically who like work there and their job is to make sure that no promotional material that these companies put out ever looks a little bit too homogenous so that's why you just have you know everybody from all different walks of life but like a lot of times like if you're looking at like commercials and stuff you'll notice that you'll like almost never see a white family anymore but at this point so black people really are like we we set the trend I think it's just that the idea of like a white

if an ad that's just white people I don't think it has to do like trend setting it's just them trying to like make up for the history of white supremacy so if there's like a white family and an ad for McDonald's that would be viewed as being in very bad taste they want to have an Asian man with a black wife with a mixed kids whatever

you've seen what happened was it Kendall Jenner with the Pepsi commercial oh they were so fucking pissed off about that that's what they're trying to avoid it yeah they was they was pissed about but a lot of people other people will say well you got these black people over here because you're trying to kill us. Low quality food. Yeah, you got us

in these McDonald's commercials because you want our people to eat this. You would notice the same thing. They say the same thing about no jumper. But you would say, you would notice the same thing about the healthiest restaurant chains as well. You could find a Chipotle ad. You're not going to find like a bunch of white people if I could eat the Chipotle. I'm just saying it's like

a healthier option. So it's bad taste now to have white people in commercials. You could have like a white person, but they're going to have to be trans or gay or there's going to have to be like one and they're going to have to be kind of like offset by a bunch of other people. So it's called inclusion. Exactly.

It's called inclusion. It's also kind of cringe, to be honest. Well, like, if you look at Nick Winston, it's go rally. It's not just commercials, though. Like, if you look at award shows, the Oscars is very uncommon to see white directed and white, like, at-starred films to be pushed to the forefront. I think they're going to bring that shit back now. They be like, Will Smith and fucked it up for everybody.

Nah, hell not. That was like the, that was the blackest Oscars of all time. No, it was. It was crazy. Teed up. Amazing. I was thinking that when I saw the, the,

uh, the Migos fight backstage at the Grammys or whatever. And I was just thinking like, there's, alleged, there's definitely some Grammys employees right now or Oscars, whatever, who are thinking like,

told y'all asses. This is why we, these niggas money. This is why McElmore won. But at that point, you, looking at this shit and you're looking at the Grammys and we're just looking like a

fucking all white party and then the hip hop the hip hop will be not even aired. It's just like it'll be like a little tag, a little commercial oh hip hop, Nassah and Naswan like we can't even sit down at this motherfucker so it is kind of like racial just seeing that shit like racial

tension like if we're not there of course you feel you got to add us. So they did you're right they didn't even used to air they used to air this shit. I would like to let you guys know something On Saturday, me and my girl drove into Hollywood to get breakfast, and on the way there, we listened to the Harry Styles album, and on the way back, we listened to the Beyonce album. Beyonce, way harder.

No. Harry Styles album is way better. You're fucking light. It's not close either. Are you crazy? That's just my personal thing. You said Harry's the Stiles album sucked. I mean, it's not my thing, but it definitely liked it better than the Beyonce album.

If you're into house music or anything like that. Well, you don't even need to say that. You know, I'm not into house music. I'm not even going to say that. I'm going to go get in my car and I'm going to do the same thing. But my problem with the Harry Styles album is just that it's too happy. It's too pleasant. It's just not really like my vibe.

You just want to be angry. I need at least a little bit of anger. I need at least a little bit of grumpiness. You go choose Sepultero. Some kind of turmoil. Sepultero hard. You are absolutely right. He said, anal kind would never.

Aino kind is better than Harris styles and Beyonce. What would you explain? Like, was she happy? Like, how would you explain it? She was talking about that shit. Yeah, how would you explain that album since their shit is too happy and too fucking jolly? I want to see you and Linda do the fucking coffee challenge. How would you explain Beyonce?

Beyond so unseasoned. I just, like, I don't even, it's just so far outside of the realm of anything I would ever want to listen to that it's like almost pointless to even describe it. But he don't like R&B at all. Yeah, but sonically it just did nothing for me. But you were just talking about earlier how the BPM of hip-hop music has increased, how it's got way more of an EDM-DM leaning. It has nothing to do with my personal taste. Okay, your personal taste. Did you like Drake's last album?

Not the one with a 21, but like the dance song? With sticky and all that, yeah. No. Fair? At least you're consistent. I mean, your ear to music, I don't mean, it's just probably different because my ear, I love all that stuff. If you like that Drake album, you fin a fuck with that. I like that Drake album.

And right now, I'm listening to Lil' Ii's album right now. Incredible. How is it? It's on repeat. That's on repeat. I'm getting it. You know what? It's a smooth joint, you feel it?

It's like something to ride to. different. I love that he, you know what I'm saying? He went a different route like that. It's kind of like, for real, gonna put at least five more years on his career just like a musical level. It was produced by the dude from Tame Impala, which is like a really dope rock, like indie rock band. Because I heard he went like a different route. Yeah, it's very different. It was inspired by Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon. I don't know if you're familiar with that album, but it's like a classic, classic rock album from back in the day.

So, yeah. Yaddy is reaching to, like, new artistic heights with it. That's good. I like that project, though. Is this all internet hype or is it actually real? Regardless of the sales, about the number. Regardless, I don't care about numbers when they come down. Okay. That's stupid because in reality.

It's for sure critically getting a lot of love. Okay, I've seen it also getting a ton of hate from, like, pitchfork and stuff. Lil Yadi albums sales. Who gives them fuck of pitchforks is? Every time anyone says anything, you guys are just like, who cares? Obviously, his sales matter because that tells how much. it resonates with the people. Like, people are talking about it online.

Yes, it does. That's not the only metric for it resonates. 36 equivalent album units earned, which is honestly pretty good. That is pretty good, yeah. 36K? Yeah. Well, all this music shit is smoking mirrors. They can put, you know.

Album sales is one of the things that's like kind of hard to fake. It really tells you a lot. You can 100% fake albums. But you don't see people doing it that much these days. With no hit record, though, 36K is good. They do it all the time. Okay, but I'm saying like if he gets 36K and you've seen all, these other artists who seem way bigger than Yadi currently who are doing way less like Ice Spice

sold less than that fucking that just that that to me does prove that that album is actually resonating but there is a massive song right but there's a massive difference between being liked by the critics and being liked by the masses. Well okay bow wow album so 36 out 36000 when it came out his album 36,000 I'm not sure 36 how many years ago was that that was years ago but after the The way they're counting album sales has changed so dramatically. But these are physical, so this is even crazier. So you're talking about like over 10 years ago? Yeah, so if you sold 50 and then you start pushing your songs and you're pushing your music

and people are getting on to it and then after that you go fucking double platinum, that's how you're supposed to actually push your shit because every, that don't, just because you sold this number your first week, that doesn't have an effect on how the music is. You feel it and how it is on the table. Okay, but it's like you're denying that there is useful information. to be gleaned from the first week's sales. And there is, which it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the artistry. That means you didn't have enough money to go get it the first week.

It doesn't have anything to do with that. It's a lot of things that can entail it. Album sales, like when we talk about the fact that 50 cents first album was like one of the greatest selling albums of all time, it's like, why are we saying that? It's not because it proves that the artistry is great. It's because the fact that it resonated with that many people, that many people ran to the stores to get it. That says a lot about how much it impacted the culture.

So whenever we talk about album sales, we don't have to go through this. No, no, no. Album sales don't matter thing every time. I'm not saying they are important. They do tell you something very important. They're not the only thing that matter. Nobody said that. The 50, okay, that's a straw man.

That's a strong man. 50 cent, that was a different story. He was the biggest artist at the time. It was, there wasn't a lot of rappers. It wasn't no streaming. Okay, but that's not the conversation. I'm just saying. It's different.

Sales matter. Sales tell you a lot about the culture. It matters, but it doesn't matter. It like, it doesn't matter overall, like to wear a, whatever. I'm going to listen to him what I'm not. But you're like arguing something I totally didn't say. Yeah, but I get what you're saying, but I feel like the whole No Jumper Foundation was based off on underground artists who probably didn't sell a lot right away.

All this doesn't change what I said. I said album sales tell you a lot about how the album is being received. They definitely do. Right, so what are we arguing about? Well, because the thing is this. Because you're trying to base it on how big the artist is at the time. I'm saying album sales tell you a lot about how successful a project. But there's some albums that come out and sell a lot.

If you were to ask the labels, they would tell you that that's nearly the only thing But there's albums that have made huge impacts that lack a lot of sales. Like, for example, what is widely regarded as the greatest hip-hop album of all time, Illmatic by Nas, barely went gold when it came out, barely went gold. 30 years ago. It doesn't matter. Yeah, Jay's first album as well. Yeah, definitely matters.

You're talking about apples and oranges when you start talking about an album that came out of the mid-90s. Why? Because the way that music is released is so unbelievably different. Like, it's just album sales matter a ton when you're talking about how important an album. They matter less than they ever did. They matter less than they ever did. People don't even give a fuck about album sales now. It's a single driven market.

Are you fucking crazy? It's a single. People care about album sales. People talk about album sales every single type of project. It's a dinosaur thing to do. It's a single driven market. People talk about it more now than they ever did before. It's a dinosaur thing to do.

No, no, no, no. 50 started it in the early 2000s. Academics kept it going by always tweeting out everybody's album sales, but you're telling me you haven't seen 5 billion YouTube videos about people's sales and stuff. He has to be done it.

Most artists, there's only, there's only, there hasn't been any, like, interesting ones for a while to be fair. But there's only select artists where even album sales even matter.

There's so many artists. There's so many artists. And everybody gets talked about and when it comes to their album sales. Well, a lot of, well, it does matter because a lot of artists,

they're afraid to drop because they don't want their album sales to be too low because to companies, companies will take that and say, maybe they're not as hot as we thought they was. Because if you're an artist that

projected to sell 70,000 first week, and you come and sell 20? The point is, is that if we get on this podcast and we say album sales don't matter, we look like idiots. No, we're not saying that. To the entire music industry, it's one of the main things

that they base everything on. But it definitely doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to the consumer. And it's also not as fair of a metric. For example, we know. But why? Because album sales aren't as important,

and it's all about streaming, except there's all kinds of copies. I get it. But it's like, we can't have it. So every time we bring up album sales of the podcast, we have to have this long, drawn-out conversation about how they don't matter as much as they used to and shit. It does matter, but it doesn't really matter as much as it used to. Like, just say for, take for answer.

It matters for impact. For impact, for companies, for business. No, let me just say, okay, I'll put Heather on a little Yachty's album. Heather's not going to say, how many, um, how much did he sell first week? Right. She don't give a fuck how much she sold first week. She's going to turn it on. gonna say okay number four number five number six I'm banging period and then that's it but the thing is

is that that's the average consumer I'm not gonna base my opinion of an album based on how much it sold because I like all kinds of shit that is like extremely unpopular but when it comes down to it in order for me to understand how important an album is bush into the culture paying attention to the album sales is extremely important and in fact probably more important than my own personal opinion. The big is this so people, because people are dropping, they're not even really dropping albums. What an album really means is a record, you know what I mean? What people are dropping now are playlists and your album sales are determined by songs that weren't even necessarily slated for release. This all began with Drake years ago, putting out, like a bunch of singles.

Collections of songs are albums. Correct. It's an album. But it's not the, it's not the same thing. It might feel a little bit more like a play, but calling it a playlist, it's just marketing. No, it is a playlist. It's literally the exact same thing. It's still a list of songs in a row on Spotify album music, calling it a playlist because the songs are, because there's more songs, because they all sound real different. It's like, it's all just technicalities. When I think of an album, I'm thinking of getting a CD, I got the booklet, I'm reading

through that motherfucker, I'm reading the producers, everybody that wrote on here. That's old school. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. But why do people call them LPs and EPs? Length. Length. Yeah, long player and E.P. is extended play. Right.

And that's literally from physical. vinyl records. A 40-song project? It's not a playlist. It's just a 40-song album. But here's the thing, too. The reason why album sales don't matter as much as they used to, as much as there's conversations around it nowadays, in the early 2000s, there was far more dialogue. For example, even like in the later early 2000s, when Kanye and 50 dropped, there hasn't been a conversation about album sales. Lies. Kanye and Drake, as if you don't remember, like a year ago when this was the biggest conversation about their albums. That was like two years ago.

Still, it's like fucking 20 years after what you're talking about. No, but the impact was not like 50. Are you correct? Lush, you're playing dumb right now. You know that it's a huge conversation. Anytime two artists drop side by side, everybody talks about Cardi versus Nikki's album sales. But compared to the way it used to be,

like the conversation was the only one pushing it during that era. It wasn't a conversation in hip-hop until 50 made it a thing, and then it kind of lapsed for years, and then I felt like once academics started reporting on it heavily, It was when it really became a thing. And with the artist, I just feel like it just, the artist has to resonate with the people, not just only musically.

Like, your image, everything, your style, everything has to resonate. People are more into the personality. Yeah, now I'm really into this shit. Like, just say like not saying little Oozie, his music is good, but they just resonating with him, his, the whole image of him. That's always, you know what I'm saying?

But he also sales a lot of, I was listening to the 50 seconds because he was on steroids. I mean, yeah. I was like, this guy's badass. I like him. You got to have the whole. image. Let me ask you a question. Let's pivot. Let me ask you a question. So when I was listening to Harry Styles album, I said to my girl, I said, do you think that there are other dudes out there who are making

music that's just as good or better than this that we don't know about because of the fact that this dude was in, what was it? 100 degrees, 98 degrees. What was he in? One direction, right? Riley confirms. But then I was thinking like, I don't think that's true for Like, I think if there was a dude who was way better than NBA young boy and he came out tomorrow, that he would actually be, like, bigger than young boy. No. In a year. I significantly disagree. If the music was that much, but do you feel like the cream rises to the top in rap?

I think it 100%. It does to an extent. It does. There's a lot of great music. I don't know why I ask the question. I'm so sure what I think. Hold on. Was Harry style the Beyonce of the group?

Yeah. Okay. Well, then there it goes. It was automatic for him. I just wondered to what extent him already being in that role. Like, his music is apparently very, very good of,

like, heard tons of people who know a ton of music, said that they think he's incredible or whatever, but I just wondered to what extent him having that amount of publicity and everything. Because, like, I don't know,

would Justin Timberlake's albums have gotten as much attention as they did without N-Sink, even though it was, like, 20 years. I know, he also produced by Jimelaide and Neptune. I'm sure whoever's produced in Harris' house shit.

It's a deal, but like you said, bro, there's a lot, like, fucking Chicago drill scene is probably more, crazy and more gangster than anything you can fucking hear. You feel me?

You say you think the cream of the crop is like, what is the metric? Yes, King Vaughn's the best rapper to ever come out of Chicago. So he became the biggest rapper out of Chicago. I'm saying, what is the metric that you grade somebody, that you grade somebody on the criteria of cream of the crop? Like, what do you listen to? Like, what would make you say, damn, he's harder than young boy? I got to dress lush because he's clearly trying to take this the wrong way.

Think about it. If a new robber came out of Chicago and he was better than Little Dirk, you're telling me that there are outside forces that would make his music less popular than Lil Dirk? I totally disagree. I think if someone comes out who genuinely is making better music from that scene, that they're going to become bigger. Okay, okay. Hold on,

the fans are savvy. The fans know what they're listening to. Let me address this. Hold on. Let me address this real quick. Do you believe that Draco is one of the best top ten artists to come out of the past several years? I do, but I also completely... Oh, then how come he doesn't have a top 10...

Do you want me to answer? You want me to answer the question because it's insanely easy. I don't think Drago has... had mass appeal in the sense that I don't think that he was going to become as big as a King Vaughn or a little Dirk or whatever. I think he was incredible. I think he was going to do it. But the fact that he didn't really even flirt with that kind of success in terms of

making songs that big, I mean, his style, like, listen to a Drakeo album. He's one of my favorite rappers ever, but the way that he wrapped was not like somebody who was trying to make big hits, right? Or not like he was trying to make everybody happy in general. Okay, but it didn't really do that. And it didn't really do that much, right? So what does that have to do with cream rising into this? top as far as talent.

Because Draco can be one of the best LA rappers of all time without having to have mainstream appeal. What about Grito? Grito doesn't make, like, records. So what's your explanation? Why is Grito not the number one rapper in the world? Because there's a lot of factors other than talent that lead to why. I just realized having this conversation with rappers is probably not a good idea.

You guys all feel attacked by this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I didn't blow up because of systematic. It wasn't because of me. Wait a minute. Wait, wait. Wait, wait. Hold on.

You did. So, say, I mean, you said you had systematic failures in New Hampshire. You didn't grow up fucking rich and all of the stuff. So you're on the same level as, you're just from fucking New Hampshire. No, I made it to be one of the most important people in hip-hop media from New Hampshire.

So I had no systematic advantages, right? No, but let's keep a real. There's a lot more variables. And luck. To fucking hip-hip. It's all luck. To make you mainstream. For one, if you don't have a label,

That's, you're at a real big disadvantage. If you don't have that machine with you. Anybody with an ounce of talent has multiple labels begging to get the millions of dollars in this climate. Can I talk? But if you don't, if you don't have a label backing you and making you priority and bridging those gaps and getting you those features

and putting you all of them stages, your shit is going to be significantly hard. Yes, you do. I don't know, Adam, I study this culture way for much for you to just say that. You don't need features to blow up. If your music is genuinely that good, you do not need somebody to put you on a track. You're not going to be an independent artist and hit Super Bowl stage ever in your life.

What are you talking about Super Bowl? Where do you come from? Where do you come from? He just made a bunch of music people like. A mainstream artist. He's not independent. But I'm saying if you have. A mainstream artist.

If you're an artist with any sort of marketability, you have a dozen labels begging to sign you. That doesn't do. To act like a label signing you as some kind of privilege is insane. The labels are dying to sign up. artists who can be successful? What are the majority of yourselves in music right now? What does it come from? Humans, I guess?

No, stream. Streams. Right? There are a playlist, some of the major playlist you cannot get on those playlist unless you're associated with a certain label. So if you want to be on those playlist, you should sign to a label. Not only that, but not only that. It's the easiest thing you'll ever have to do as an artist.

But there's also a lot of, that doesn't mean that you're going to get a good deal and they're going to make you priority or then to override you to the top. But there's also a lot of environment. and circumstantial factors that lead. For example, let's bring it back to Draco. If Draco had a few more years and didn't have this untimely fate that he met and could have potentially worked with bigger producers

and could have been more integrated with the industry, we might have seen him rise to the top. So he needed more time. I don't think that really is like you disagreeing with what I said. No, no, no. But my whole point is that, because what you said is the top talent always rises to the top. But you tell me a rapper better than NBA Youngboy.

NBA Young Boy. one street rapper, you tell me somebody who's better than him, that just isn't successful because of systematic concerns. NBA young boy. You can name somebody you like more, but in terms of who's really making the best music, I believe that if you came out with a rapper who's better than him, he's going to be bigger than young boy. Album sales, don't sell nothing crazy.

His YouTube, he sold 40,000 with no promoters. His YouTube numbers are fucking amazing. His impact is fucking amazing. That's where his impact takes place. But the fact that he doesn't play the industry games and he don't go to the reward shows and he don't play nice, his career would be 50. But that's the same labels.

That's why I'm using as an example because he's somebody who doesn't really play the game. But you can't look at NBA album sales, NBA Young Boys album sales, and let that be the metric of how you view him. His impact is way bigger than his album sales. Do you think that there's somebody out there who's better than Drake at making the kind of music

that Drake makes? No. Probably is somebody out there. I think that goes for every corridor. We don't know them yet. That's true. But it's somebody out there. That's for sure.

Why aren't they signed? The labels will, give him $15 million to sign right now. If I was a great artist right now, you think- They try all the time, Adam. They don't mean that people receive it that well. There's people that come out and let's keep it real.

The labels have, they'll throw that money at you and the more money throw at you. If that first single flop, you're out of here now. And also, if they give you that much money, they're permanently invested in your career until they decide that it's a walk.

They will put you on the shelf. As soon as they decide to watch, nobody spends $10 million to sign an artist and then just puts them on the shelf for no reason. They put them on the shelf. shelf once they realized that that artist is a dud. How many SoundCloud niggas got these amazing big deals that we won't hear about no more?

Because the labels decided that they weren't going to be profitable going forward. They were putting shit out there and they wasn't received well. You still have to be, you still have to be received well and critically acclaimed and people have to really generally fuck with you. You have to sell. Adam, let me ask you questions. How do you sell? What defines? Make music that people would like.

But what defines? But them labels, they put you on them stages and shit. They put you on those awards shows. My point is you don't. Young boys proof you don't need to be put on those stages. But that's why his album is still reflect on it. He's the biggest street artist.

What defines the best artist in your opinion? Like what are the factors? Nothing that we're talking about right now has anything to do with who's the best artist. It's all about who's the biggest artist. Mainstream, right? And NBA Young Boy is not mainstream. He's not mainstream.

No, because his label is not putting him out there to be. He's the biggest street artist and he assigned to Atlantic Records who could literally do anything that he wants. And then he just, he just, uh, resign for a big, for a big number. I bet you if they was judging off of his album sales, they wouldn't have sat there and gave him that big bag. They're judging his impact. No, they judge him off his profitability.

You think, okay, yeah, but you think my daughter is sitting there worrying about, oh, he sells this much, he's maybe not as popular as you think it is. Like, no, you don't see young boys selling 200,000 the first week, 300,000 first week, but his impact is just as big as anybody that sales like that. Album sales are just one way to judge an artist, and obviously NBA Young Boy is ridiculously successful. So you're proving a point that is not the only thing. I never said it was the only thing.

You said it was a big thing. You guys are strong manning it up. Well, a lot of the best. But every argument I'm arguing here is something that I didn't say. No, but what you did say, though, what you did say, is that the cream of the crop always rises to the top. I wouldn't say always, but I would say mostly. Nope. There is a lot of examples.

X-rapper stuff right here. Or current rapper's stuff. Current, still learning out now. I don't believe that I was. 100,000 of streams in a week. I never had the talent or image that was destined for long-term. success. So, like, or mainstream success. So I don't put myself

in that category whatsoever. I made hip hop music because I love this shit and I always will and it's a part of who I am as a person. But that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. I'm far removed from this conversation. What it comes down to, though, is there a lot of super talented artists who just might not have certain intangibles,

marketability or land in the right situation. Marketability is part of the total package. But that doesn't necessarily mean. Getting yourself into the right situation is part of the total package. I'm saying is that these days it's hard to connect them. It's so easy to blow up from nothing on YouTube that the, to me, it is as obvious as any statement that I could ever make as obvious as is that it's

light outside that when an, if an artist comes out who's better than 90% of the artists out there, he's going to be in that upper echelon conversation because I see it happen all the time. Names, where artists blow the fuck up and get into that conversation. Give me five. But somebody like King Vaughn is such an obvious example where yes,

he did have a little dirt coast. sign, but as soon as he started to put music out and it got in front of people's eyes, he just started to fucking explode. There's a lot of artists, too. King Von exploded, but I don't think his album sales reflected versus what you're saying. And his videos were huge. But there's a lot of artists too that potentially could have been the one to emerge from their local scene, but it wound up being somebody else.

And as a result, they don't get the spotlight on them. They don't get the artist development. They don't get the image consulting. But that doesn't mean. that they're not better. Look it. Like, for example, for example. If they were better, they should be able to get the fans into them.

From an artistic perspective, there's nobody in Detroit that's better than Cash Kid. No one wraps better than Cash Kid. No one puts together bars that, like- I will say Peasy. Peezy is fire too. But Cash Kid is bars-wise. But that's what I'm saying. But if Cash Kid had the same machine behind him that, let's say, a baby,

Baby Face Ray or a T. Grizzly. But what do you think his excuse would be for why he doesn't have, the machine by him. All right, look, Mikey pulled this up. I'm sure he's had labels talking to him just like everybody else. Top 100 year today streams by artists. Let's see who's on his list. I know Young Boy is on his list, right?

Drake and then Young Boy are number one and two. And now, mind you, the fact that Young Boy is above all those people and he don't play no industry games at all. Says a lot about how the talent just kind of rise to the top. That kind of proves that at his point. But his album sales don't reflect to that. Like, find a whack rapper in this. Like, look at how.

all the artists, like all the rappers, we would have to agree that all of them are very, very, very good. Look how high Poloji is. Polo G's one of the best rappers to come out of Chicago. That surprises me. That surprises me. And I'm not mad at it. Pologi is, look at suicide boys. Look at X still on that list after all these fucking, and Mac Miller.

What the fuck. Well, I'm going to go to last one. X was a dude. I didn't know to Mac Miller. X was that niggas. That's out. King Vaughn is still number 602. Yeah, but she's the last.

You fuck with Lady Gaga? Lady Gaga's fire. Amazing. Lady Gaga, voice amazing. Yes. What the fuck out of it? You're tripping.

So y'all listening to Lady Gaga right now in the wit. Bro, what's that new wit? You could put her on. I want to me, man. No, no, what's that movie? The star,

what's the shit goes? So y'all listen to Ray. You're tripping. Good-ass actor to. No, I didn't listen to it. But I'm just saying. How is Lincoln Park number 93?

Lincoln Park. You know how. They haven't put out of the album like 20. Yo, I love how Lusha always wants to blame everything on systematic racism. No. I was going to say because bro died. That's how. Like six years ago, he died.

So that explains why they're number one streaming right now? Little people's on here, too. Ninety-four. How does that make sense? No, you're right. Like, but they're also one of the most impactful rock bands of the past like 20-plus years. But there's a lot of really impactful rock bands

from the past 20 years that aren't on this list. Wait, Little Dirk's not on here? Look at Metallica up there. Give me the reason why a little Uzi Verde is not being set. He almost certainly is. Ouzi is 26. Where's Little Dirk at? He's not on it?

Oh, Little Dirk is 10. Well, Ouzi don't be getting those looks, too, as a mainstream artist. Where's 6-9? He ain't on there. Was there a year where, I wonder what the highest level he would have reached on this was, though, because I feel he definitely made it list. There's probably a year where he was damn near the top, right? Yeah, for sure.

Damn. Go, yeat, wicked high up. You take number 41. I just feel like, though, like, we're moving the goalposts a little bit, because at first, we were saying that over, like, the best talent in hip-hop rises the top, and then at a certain point to make... I believe that. Well, at a certain point, it became...

the most marketable. Well, it's like the conversation. Marketability, if you ever try to separate, if you're ever having a conversation about music and you try to separate the marketing and the individual

from the music, you're not doing yourself any favors because it's all the same thing. But you also say the connections too. So there's a whole bunch of things. Connections can help. Connections. I'm saying,

if you come out as a rapper and you're better than NBA young boy, you will have every rapper in the game trying to fuck with you and trying to connect with you and you will have every label trying to sign you. And you will have every single media company die. to promote you. How could you possibly argue with what I just said?

I'll tell you how. What about the artists? What about the artists that get shelved? Because people don't want them to be bigger. And then they get put in writing camps. Nobody gets put on a shelf unless they're ass. That is so. When a label gives an artist $10 million, they are not giving up on that investment unless they decide that it is pointless to continue to invest in it.

They're not caring about the talent. They're caring about the singling. Tell me from a label's perspective, why would a label give an artist $10 million and then put them on the shelf? If I gave you 10 million and then you stepped out here that first year and you had no steam, I'm letting you go. Exactly. If you have no steam. If I'm going to write you off on my taxes.

You up out of here. But that has nothing to do with talent. And also getting put on a shelf is not the same thing that you don't necessarily give them 10 million and then put them on the shelf. You might give them 750 racks and that's the best deal. What do most labels do? They give the artists a bit of money and then they're kind of like, As an advance. Figure it out.

And sometimes they help out, but mostly, they're like, figure it out. They care about the fucking singles. If the singles don't deliver. They care about money. Okay. Yes. But, okay. Do they make money by your singles?

And album sales. And touring. Okay, let me ask you. I'll give you an example. Let me just give you an example. Let me just give you an example. They're just give you an example. They're, do you see Sci-high on any of those lists right there.

Sa hi. I feel like you're leading me down a path here that is like pretty obvious. Like, yes, he's not marketable. No, let me. No, no. So, Sci-high, got signed to good music, and has literally written 80% of Kanye's huge records. Writing a bunch of huge records is not going to get you to be one of the biggest rappers in the world. But that's the whole point.

You don't think that he had the capability of reaching that accolade. He should have done it. You said the cream of the crop. He would take the cream of the crop. He's more talented. But he is more talented. He's more talented. At one very specific thing that I understand means a lot to you, but it's realistically not the entirety of this conversation.

You're fighting straw man here, Lush. Let's move on. Before you move on, you're fighting a straw man. You're acting like I said something I didn't say, Lush. You've got to work on your conversation skills here. Hold on. Before you move on.

Before you move on, my example, out of all those artists that was on that Hot 100, give me A-Sap Rocky and give me Tiger. Oh, the most marketable artist right now that I can make the most money with right now. It hasn't put out an album like six years. Exactly. But I could take Rocky right now and make more money

than I can make more money than, I'm saying, probably a Jay Z and Kanye. You feel me? What? I mean, other than Jayze and Kanye can make the most money with Tiger and Asap Rocky. You know what I'm saying? And they only have to put out a few records.

And they don't have to be crazy. You feel me? So that means your image is way more crazier. But they might have good album. Listen, Rocky is a very popular artist, but he doesn't put out an album in like six, seven years. It's been a long. ass fucking time. Exactly.

Exactly. But he has all the connections in the world, all of the co-signs in the world. But I think if you pay attention to the music industry, you know that he's not drop an album right now because it's not going to sell. But that doesn't mean everything. The numbers here is okay. The music can be okay. You know what I'm saying here?

And then marketable here, how much money can I put him? NBA Young Boy or A-Sat Rocky? Pepsi commercial. Give me A-Sat Rocky. Calvin Klein or NBA Young Boy. What are we doing? Oh, his music is crazy. But what are we doing?

Youngboy would never get a corporate deal like that. Because he doesn't play. What this is proved is that. What this has proved is that marketability is more important than talent. That's insane. That's what I gleam from the conversation. If you've been able to sit here throughout this whole conversation, you still think that I'm really trying to question you.

Most of these rappers, they have writers for them. They don't have to be talented. They can look the part. They can write the songs for it. We're talking about artists who don't have writers. I've sat in the studio and watched NBA Youngboy record a shit. I promise you. He's writing a young boy.

Yeah, we're not just a young boy. Yeah, we're not just talking. talking about there's a lot of artists in this game. Okay, because you could, you could bring it. Being smart enough to get good writers is part of being a great arts. But you can break it down to female rap. A lot of these female rappers, they look appealing, but they don't have the pen games. So I have somebody in there.

Why do you guys going back to the pen game? That doesn't fucking matter. Nobody cares. Talent. Here, here. They don't have the talent to. I'm talking about the talent of the performance. I don't give a fuck who's behind you helping a writer who made the beats.

That's totally irrelevant. So you just said the cream of the crop. So as a performer. As a performer. I'm not talking about the writing. So basically, I'll agree with you then. I'll agree with you, the cream of the crop, as far as overall artists may rise to the top.

It's like you're finally realizing what I was actually saying in the first place. You chased your straw man for too long. You finally are getting to what I actually said, Lutch. However, the best rappers don't rise to the top. I thought you were talking about talent. That's rappers. I thought you were talking about Tullors. Did you think you were talking about Tulles?

I'm glad you finally figured out you were chasing a straw man this whole time. We all thought you were talking about talent. Howellant encompasses all these different things. We all thought the same thing. We're talking about lyrical abilities like, you're the best. We all thought the same thing. I knew as soon as you brought up Sahir the Prince

that you were not paying attention because why the fuck did you bring that up? I know he's an amazing rapper. Obviously, who the fuck cares? It doesn't have anything to do with this conversation. You said the cream with the crop? I was said, I said, an artist better than NBA young boy, what in your fucking pasty-ass brain would have led you to believe

that I was talking about actual rap writing skills? There's a lot more That's a small man Anyway Anyway let's move it on Let's let's just out This is so boring Give me Tyler the creator

And let's change It's so boring Marketability everywhere Should have had a two second conversation Marketability Have you guys listened to the Ice Spice album No It would have been a better debate

If you guys listened to me But uh You didn't specify Because at the end Lush actually figured out What I was saying It's just kind of weird That it took 20 minutes

Because we're thinking That you're talking about The best rappers I know That's the problem You're saying the full package gets to the top Duh

You didn't say that. I did say that. And it was so fucking obvious. You really think, let me ask you, do you really think that I thought that the best rappers were becoming the biggest artist? I thought that's what you meant. That is so fucking stupid that you thought that I meant that. You know me what the people said.

You know I'm not that stupid. I know you're not, but let's see what the people said. But you chose to latch on to an insane argument that I would never make in a billion years. And are you against that because that's an easier argument to have? You're going to ask an insane fucking question right now. So get to your fucking question so we can all tell you no. It's not an insane question. My next question is, did you guys listen to the Ice Spice album?

No, I watched your videos. Yes, I did. I listen to it multiple times. Why would I not listen to this? You hate FEMA around more, you hate R&B. You have an IQ of 46 saying something like that to me because I fucking love Ice Spice. Yeah, but you don't like people. Because you want to fucking interview, but you're trying to fuck.

I like it because I like it. Okay. Let me state my case about why. I think the Ice Space album is great. Okay. I believe you. It's probably here. The song with Pink Panther has the, I don't want to say the worst production,

but like the weirdest engineering and production I've ever heard in my life. It doesn't even sound like it was recorded on Earth, but I fucking love it. It's a fun vibe. My girl likes it. My kid likes it. I think it's a great album. It's an EP, but that's- Give me your best line from the album.

Your favorite. She in Ha-Mood. That's the song type. No, I like when she says, what did she say? If I was bitches, I'd hate me a lot. I noticed that that gets a laugh from everybody I have around me when I play this song.

You resonate with that, huh? That's like a bad bitch Instagram caption. I told my girl, I'm like, this is every single fucking bar on this album is an Instagram caption. Hey, you know what? Like, I do feel like Ice Spice is severely overlooked as a rapper. She has dope cadences. She sounds cool.

Her image is fire. She like, I like all her videos. I feel like she's more creative and actually has more depth than people give her credit for it. Yeah, I haven't listened to the album just because. I just haven't got to it. It's so much shit to digest out here. It's hard.

Let me digest something first, and then I'll get to that. Like, I'll pick my favorite songs and then I'll get to it. To be fair, it's like a 20-minute album. It's got like six songs on it. Do you notice how, like, the Bronx drill and just New York drill in general, the only other topic that they're willing to explore other than just drilling is relationship shit? Boots. Yeah, like, but not just sex.

They'll get into like, yo, like, you was breaking my heart. You was fucking with my mental. You feel me? And I like the way that she does those type of records. I would like to hear drill rappers talk about other stuff sometimes because I like it so much. I found this one Bronx drill playlist on YouTube that I really like that actually stays updated on all like the dope new shit come out of the Bronx. But when I listen to like 10 songs in a row, I'm like, I need y'all to just switch it up a little bit. More substance.

Just a little bit too much. And I ran down and I killed Bobby and I shot so-and-so and the rab, and it's just like. I'm not even going to lie to you. I don't like none of that shit. I'm not even into that. Sometimes I don't blame you. Sometimes it goes through the cracks. Flacco had me interviewing so many bronze artists with him and shit

that I actually started really listened to him and actually really started to like crave it when I'm driving, which is not something I normally feel towards rap. Yeah, I can't do it. I do fuck with it a lot, but it gets a little bit morbid. And just like when you really, if I actually think about what's being said too much, it's a little disturbing.

I'm banging the new Arabelsial album right now. You feel it? It's my own. I'm not even going to lie to it. more so getting to the vibe to where I gotta have that R.B. Phil. That's where I'm listening to the like Sizzle. That's why I'm listening to Lil Yadi's album. Like, I ain't

gonna lie. This is my fifth time saying this shit, but man, I trust I listen to this shit. Like, Almighty put me on, like, I'm just trying to vibe to shit. You can't, you scream aloud soon as as I turn my car on, I can't take it. Soon as, like, I might ride it silence. Sometimes I'm riding in silence.

This is turning into the Joe button podcast where we try to talk about rap and then y'all are like, nah, we want to talk about Sizzas. I've seen them do that so many times. I love Sizzam. I know his fucking ass loves Sizzle. You feel me? Maybe we can do like an R&B after show for the No Jumbers show

where I leave and we have fucking Yeah, get the fuck out of here. Bash Ty comes and sits down and you guys talk about R&B. Is it because he's a woman? She seems like she probably likes that stuff. That fastai knows more about hip hop than 98% of the songs. Hip hop is just being like, it's just too saturated to where I can't even think. I don't know what you fucking saying, who the new artist was coming.

out who dressing like give me the same motherfuckers I've been looking at. Here's a question. I want a direct answer from you and you. I already know what you're going to say. Do you feel, would you be comfortable saying that you are genuinely very, very excited about hip hop right now? No, I'm not excited about hip hop. Yes.

I'm only excited about the artists that I really love, not the genre, the genre just in a hole. I just feel like I love Drake, you know what I'm saying? I love anything he does whoever he collabs with. I love future. But you're talking about two artists that have been out for like 15, 20 years.

And there's nobody that can like be on that level that can have me excited about hip-hop was hip-hop is just draining. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, hip-hop is draining. I remember how I felt listening to rap in 2016, 2017, 2018.

Yeah. And I could definitely say that right now is not exciting like it was at one point. So when you give those top five those top 50s and those top tens is always going to be those artists that made you feel. Like, you know what I'm saying? Those those games. That's those 50s that made me do that.

That's that Rick Ross that made me do, you know what I'm saying, feel those type of ways. I don't feel those type of way no more. The last artist that I really was like I was fucking with and I stayed consistent on the shit probably is Uzi to keep honest. But I also feel like there's a factor of age that comes into play at a certain point and us being people of our age because getting stuck in our ways and nostalgic for the music, that resonated with us when we were growing up. But I don't think I'm really married to the stuff I grew up on.

Like, I was extremely excited in my early and mid-30s about hip-hop. It's just that realistically, right now, rap music is fucking bland. There's been very little exciting stuff, very little new stuff coming out. And just like you said, you're not married to the old stuff that you used to listen to. I love that shit, but I don't need it to sound like that. Bro, diplomatic community one is probably one of my favorite albums of all time, right? But I don't bang that shit every single day. I can go back and listen to 90s R&B every fucking day of my life.

And it don't get old to me. It's timeless. So it's a different type of feel. And you know why? Because it's really well produced. So there's so many different layers to the music that we go back to it and it resonates and it hits differently. The biggest problem with hip hop nowadays is the fact that pro sumer audio gear,

which means that you can record by yourself and you don't need like to go to a label or even go to like a real studio to record is so accessible that there's just this huge oversaturation of music and people are focusing less on production value people are focusing less on depth so that's why when an album like what Yaddy

just did comes out it sticks out because there actually is focus on the overall production value. I don't think that the there being too much rap is the problem I think that they're not being enough good rap is the problem. There's just not that many people doing anything that's all that excited. I mean, no, and exactly why Mr. Moral is

one of the best albums and people keep playing with Kendrick, you know what I'm saying, artistry? Because he's taking this shit in death and he's not fucking playing. And it's crazy. They try to clown him for his album sales and that became the fucking standard of album sales. Oh, another album where we had the album sales conversation,

Lush, who denies that that happens. I didn't say that it didn't. See, now you're doing a fucking strong man. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. That's because my thing is this. I said that it's not as prevalent as a conversation as it was in 2006. prevalent conversation.

But when Kendrick came out, they said, oh, he only sold this much, and then everybody else that dropped under that. They're like, well, this is the new standard. That Kendrick album kind of did come and go without that much. I don't feel like the hip-hop fan base really kept talking about it that intently throughout the rest of the year. All the albums that dropped last year, who would you feel has people still talking about it?

None. Hip-hop as a whole. Hip-hop as a whole right now, it's just in a fucking. their position. And you know what? This is the little Wayne said, I would rather I would rather sing and be an R&B artist because it lasts forever. It does. You know what I'm saying?

Being a hip-hop artist, what? Every R&B song or every song that you're going to play or anything singing, you're going to have that feeling. That trash ass rebirth album that he put out, that shit didn't last forever. That was a rock album. It was garbage. It was a garbage. It was testing it out. But when you go to your wedding,

you're going to play something that's sing. Someone's singing. But lollipop. Lollipops in a journal record. Yeah. People in love with you. You're going to hear shit like that all. It's a huge hit.

I'm saying there's plenty of hits that are wrapped. No, but what I'm saying, your favorite, you just said, you're not married to the old rap rap albums that you used to listen to like that. You can't listen to them daily. You're looking for something new. What we're saying is, R&B, you can listen to that shit all the time,

and it doesn't, you don't lose that feeling with it. You don't? No, I don't. And it goes back to what I was saying. It's because there's production values. you to it. There's melody. There's certain components which are tried and true that go back hundreds of years

that make music sustainable throughout time. Nick, I can listen. And you know and you know those arms It is. It's like out in all time low, right? And I am up the opinion. I saw somebody tweet this. They said hip hop turned into podcasting. And you know what? I honestly kind of think that that's the truth. I kind of feel like that's

the whole story. You know what? This is the truth. Before you go before we get into that though, those those elements of orange beat puffy put into that big album. Exactly. Those, that's why we feel, you know,

and those are the biggest hits. Sky's the limit. Juicy, missing you. 10-track commandments. Bro. Like that. Chuck B. Sample.

All I'm saying is that, I forget. Oh, we're talking about hip-hop being a podcast. Oh, well, yeah. I mean, I just feel like a gigantic percentage

of hip-hop fans basically pivoted from being hip-hop fans to, like, YouTube fans and podcast fans. And I know I've said this before, and I know it doesn't seem like the entire explanation, which is definitely not, because rap is pretty fucking boring

right now regardless. But I definitely feel like there's a significant extent to which all these motherfuckers who would be listening to albums, otherwise, they're just listening to shit like this. Or they're watching... There's 20,000 people watching academics on stream, and Adam 22 calls in and confirms that his former co-host had sexual relationships with his fiancee because motherfuckers wanted me to. So are we going to talk about that? I guess we're there now, yeah. That was a great way to lean into that. How did you feel?

Because you guys all told me that you thought that I handled it well in the group chat, but I'm assuming that you were just lying to me and you actually want to talk shit. Me personally. These two custer said you handled it very well. No, no, no. I think you handed it very well for a situation like that because I would have crashed out. I'm going to keep a G with you. Crashed out about what, though?

Just everything. Like, oh, what the fuck? No, but on some real shit, though. That would have made him look awful, though. It would have made him little awful, but I could see why it's so sensitive. But how could I crash out about something that I've known about since before I was dating her? And realistically, basically before me and him were working together on the channel and stuff. It's like, it was really just me being sick of the fact that motherfuckers were like trying to, like, hold it over my head or act like this was like this was like this big secret.

And I was watching somebody talk about it. And I'm just like, why am I even acting like, I give a fuck about this? I should just. And I was planning on calling in, or not calling him, but just saying it today. But then I heard academics kind of having the conversation. I'm like, let me just air this out on there. See, but I feel like if you. And I talk to academics about this shit, too, is that if that was like a black person,

it had been a way different situation. Like, I feel like you, what you and Lina do as far as business-wise and shit like that, it's less of a like, ah. But Travis Scott knows that Tiger fucked his baby mom, right? But they weren't cool, were they? I know, but I'm saying they probably were for all we know, right? They're all rappers. They're all the same.

I'm just saying it happens, I think, quite a bit. Now, I'm not going to deny that it's fucking funny as shit that it happens to be somebody that I was so close with and those on the podcast. I understand why that's so fucking amusing to people or why they're so obsessed with it or whatever. But I would assume that it happens like nearly constantly for most people, especially if you're like dating from a relative, like if you're from a small town and you got a girlfriend and you're like in your mid-20s.

Everyone's hit it. I mean, everybody's just slept with each other because where the fuck are new people coming from? Nobody's moving to your town or whatever. If you want to look at like all of hip hop, you could say like, well, somebody could go pick a different. I like how you're trying to deflect and dumb that down. What? That's just really not like the case.

Like, people, my homies are not fucking my bitch. No. I don't know. I don't get a fuck how long they've been knowing her. Are you going to do this? I mean, yeah, I do want to do it. Let's go. My close homies haven't fucked my bitch.

But you, if one of your friends had hooked up with her before you were dating her, would that be an end game? No, it's not an end game. No, I can get to that. It's not normal. It's not normal. It's not normal. You know what I'm saying?

You're trying to act like it's normal. Okay, the world where I'm coming from is pretty normal. Okay, well, you know, that's not normal? Like, my, my, BMX, homies, you think that this shit was out of the ordinary? Everybody, in that world, like, people would be dating people, and I'd be thinking, damn, like, I don't know. I doze who fucked her. But I think what you said is right. I think it does come down to race to a certain thing.

Yes, bro, because, because, listen. This is our diversity officer right here. Yeah, diversity. He said it first. But also, but also, listen, awesome, but on some real shit, though, like, for instance, right, people say all the time, O.T. Smashed your girl before, uh, you did. No, he did not. You feel me?

If OT smashed my girl before I fucked, I would never fuck with her, bro. Because the way I wouldn't... But don't you think that's kind of fucked up, like, to acknowledge that your girl, the entirety of who she is as a human being would somehow be tainted to you because she had maybe spent 10 minutes with your friend prior? But I wouldn't... But I wouldn't do that. And I'm saying, the way...

That's good. The way we look at each other, I wouldn't be able to, like, hang with my homeboy anymore or even do something. He wouldn't even talk to me. So the way that I would have took that versus... is the way that you're taking it is like too tough. You're like, I don't give a fucking. I'm not going to lie.

We're not going to like. I'm not going to like. I have had a girlfriend who slept with one of my friends first. It's happened. I'm sorry. Y'all better than me. I'm my wife and no bitch that fucked with my homeboy. I respect it.

But also it kind of wreaks of insecurity. Call it insecurity. Call it what you want. I'm just saying. I'm not doing it. I mean, I understand. It's not for everybody. And it's just also like, why do you want to keep fucking with somebody in a circle?

You know what I mean? Like, why you want to keep, and why you want to be still close? Billions of fucking people out here. My thing is, if I had said, like, oh, Lena, I really like you, we're having a great time together, but I know you and phones left together that one time, so that's going to be enough that I have to cancel the whole thing. That seems crazy. But you're all different.

You're over there doing drugs and, oh, and your weird-ass-quarties. That was five, six years ago. Don't act like I'm currently doing drugs. I would like to think that all you guys were just snorting away and just having fucking orgies. If you fall in love, all that shit's out the window. You don't get a fuck. If you genuinely in love, there's, you all.

are going to break certain rules. If you really like somebody, that's an insane reason to debt it. And Gene Malone told me this a long time ago. I said, gee, if I fucked with a girl, would you be able to fuck? He was like, yep. Like, I love her. I wouldn't give a book. Jim Lawn, real one.

No, but a lot of my homies do that have done that shit too. Like, they don't get a fuck. Like, the homie fucked one of a bitch. And then she's like, I don't like you. I like your homie upstairs, really. Like, all the fucking. You choose up. So, honey, got to go up there.

If you literally go to a different room within the same. name house, that I could see being maybe a problem. It's done that shit at my house in Compton. I'm not lying. And multiple women has done that in my house. Hey, but what did Lil Wayne say? I'd love you even if I knew you used to be a prostitute. And I've had, and I've had home boys that I knocked their girls down.

And nigger, they damn near married and all type of shit. I don't look at them no different for that. You just don't want it for yourself. I just don't want it for myself. I personally, it's not something I would strive for, but you know, you never know. Like, at the end of the day, like, if you really fall in love, To me, that's just not really easy. And maybe it is insecurity, bro, because I'm a person that, like, thinks, I like, okay, I pride

myself on certain things. I don't like hearing certain shit. Like, I'm like, I couldn't do it. Everybody's girls been fucked before. Yeah, of course. It could be a million other niggas. Everyone's girls had come in their face, has licked balls. You feel me?

That's true. I mean, but in my case, too, I mean, my bitch knew Little Wayne. I mean, but hey, this is Little Wayne. It's not Housephone. Define new. It ain't Adam in House. No way. Do you know?

I can get that a pass. Do you know that we all don't really know about that exact story? What you mean? We don't all know. Like, is the Heather and Wayne thing like a real thing? Or like that was a real thing? She was actually talking to that nigga, bro. Is it, was she just talking, though?

I don't know. She'll never tell us. Because, all right. I can't believe we just got here. This is not my intention to drag you into this. No, I love it. But this is great. This is great.

I've wanted to say to you this to you for so long, but I never felt comfortable. All right. After my girl had Heather Sanders on her podcast, she said to me afterwards, she goes, did Heather and Wayne sleep together? And I'm like, I honestly have no idea. And she said, you should listen to the podcast because after listen to it, I'm not 100% sure either. And then I listened to it, and I still wasn't 100% sure. Even if she did, that's like high class year into me.

So you're saying house phone is not? No, no, but that's not. You are a housefoggy, get you fuck up out of here. Yeah, what I mean? Oswald's a better rapper than Wayne. He just didn't get the advantages. This is great. You know what I'm saying?

He wasn't privileged to go. But T-Rill. But T-Rill. But T-Rill. That's a difference between a tiger and a fucking Lil Wayne. Right. Little Wayne is not, that was a big. That's not that was a big.

Oh, you're talking about like for him. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, like, the star power of it. To me, it depends on, like, how close you technically was. That makes sense. That was. If she wasn't messed with Tiger? That's different.

That's your right. She's done. Y'all was right-hand, man, after the day. That'd be weird. I'd be looking at niggas like, y'all niggas is weird over there. You can fuck with it, but I ain't fucking. You're not white with. I ain't doing it.

And you're not wiping up a bitch that smack fucked under any circumstances. That's no. But let me. Because listen, I'm cool. I'm cool with a guy that my girl used to fuck with back in a day. We're not, we're not friends like that. You know what I'm saying? You're not on his downfall.

No, I'm just saying, we're not like, I ain't never hung out with him. You can't call me for nothing or anything like that. It's just, hey, I see you shake hands and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Early on in the relationship. I said to her, like, once it was clear that we're starting to get a little closer. I was like, all right, you got to tell me every single famous guy slash every single guy I know that you've ever slept with. Just because I don't want to feel awkward if somebody knows that and I'm interviewing him or whatever.

I just, I don't want that to be lingering around. So she's a, that'll probably burn. She's a woman and she didn't tell you everything. Stop fucking playing. But let's go over here. Just because a woman has a past, just because Heather ain't being honest with you. She didn't tell you everything.

And don't make her as swoochy either way. Listen, you hate women. I have every reason in the world to believe that she was telling the truth. That's fine. You hate women. That's fine, too. But I just want to know.

I do agree they take certain shit to the great. But it's certain individuals where it's like, especially like in Adam's case, like if I'm about to interview this rapper or somebody, you need to let me know. Because he's going to be sitting here smiling the whole time. And I want to know if y'all ever, like,

DM'd or whatever. She had to tell me about a couple of those. Like, I never hung out with them, but like, you know, I DM'd them a nude one time. I'm like, okay, well, I'm glad I know that even though I'm not. But is Housephone, like, the alleged rapper that slept with, Lina, that was, like, you're in.

Well, no, because I think a lot of people. Okay, now we're going somewhere else. Let's go. Because she had a, like, she had an old YouTube video with her friend where they were talking about fucking with this artist. That's what I wasn't. It wasn't a little house phone.

That was way, I think, that was before she even knew him. Yeah, I know who he is. But anyway, I want to, um, but in the video, she's like this. Is he, is he from your hood? No, I mean, no, I mean, whoa. No, no, I mean, no, hold on.

No guessing game. No, yeah, wait, I don't want to play the tree. Look. I don't want to look. Hold on. Check this out. I just wanted to get something out of there. I was sitting in the studio.

There's another secret legally. We need to clarify. You didn't not like intentionally invite house phone to certain things because of this situation. It didn't. affect your relationship with house phone no because that like i said on the acting that was before i gave him the opportunity to be on the podcast with any kind of regularity before that he had been on a few random podcasts or whatever but it wasn't like every week we're doing it together that was after that i ain't allowed you fuck my bitch you ain't coming nothing when i chose to put him on the

podcast i didn't even think of that you can't even come to the real cross my mind i see you all right and he went to the fucking first birthday well why he didn't go to the second birthday i mean i don't think anybody wins the second birthday besides you too right oh and lush Lush got the last one invite. Because I didn't get drunk on white lies. Because I was trying to make sure he didn't unalive himself. He was having a rough week. This is a false narrative.

This is a completely false narrative. I had something in my head that I'm not going to stay down. He looked like he was well alive to me. My shit was buttoned up, motherfucker. No, your chest hair was out at a two-year-old birthday. Yeah. He thought he was going to get some porn. He was trying to get shows by one of Lennon's family members.

For sure. But I knew Riley Reed was going to be there. But to a certain extent, I was like, I know. like that had to bother you a little bit you know what I'm saying everybody trying to hold that over your head or just somebody that you know somebody that you know what I'm saying that you've been knowing a long time

it bothered me when people were throwing it out there like I had this big fucking secret when it was never like that it was like it definitely was a secret it was like a secret on camera but it wasn't like the kind of thing that off camera like if you were to teleport yourself back to the downtown days anybody

was around at that time probably knew because it wasn't even like a secret but I was over there I'm pretty sure nipping away having parties and shit. But don't you think that phone is a good homie that despite all that shit that was going on, he didn't say nothing? That is a good point. That's kind of lit.

You got to kind of respect me for that. Because he could have like, you feel me. I mean, he did tell Potlord so that he could go on fucking stream and sort of like hint at it over and over. I know this cool thing. But I mean, I'm sure he didn't intend for that to be how that would happen. Yeah, he could have confided him in out of frustration. It doesn't, he didn't necessarily need to be that. But what happened?

But what happened? a lot of respectful things. For what happened to how's one up here? That's fair game. Man, house phone to dead out is fair game. He did a lot of respectful things. He wouldn't have done it because he knew that that would almost be more of a thing to Lennah than me. So he probably would have thought in his head like he's always been a real cool turn. I don't think that.

He wouldn't want to hurt her to get at me because him and her. Because him and her have always had this really cool, cordial friendship and shit. You don't need to get it her sideways. So that's why I was like, fuck, I'm going to do it myself. And I know that she's like pretty... Yeah, fuck that I'd have been over here. I know. I fuck your bitch, you white motherfucker.

Say money. West Side. Bad boy killer. You know the deal. You know the real it's. That's crazy that you just said that. You should have said no jumper. You should have said no jumper killer.

I'm gonna go suspect mode and say, fucking, you're stealing Reddit jokes. That was a rather joke? Take money. Westside. I'm like, boom. Yeah, niggas. Listen, I can laugh at myself. So it is what it is.

But like I said, that shit doesn't, even yesterday you were talking about, I was like, he had this very well, but it seemed like he wasn't fazed. You're like, however. How did Lennon feel about all this? We fuck bitches all the time. She doesn't like being brought up into all this shit in general, but in terms of that being brought up, I told her, I'm like, yo, I'm going to say this on the stream or whatever just because it's like better than having it just be this weird lingering thing.

And she was like kind of annoyed at first. And I was like, you guys just trust me, like, this is better than having this be stupid thing. And I think she gets too. You know what? When you said that, it fucked with me. I was like, fuck, I forgot about Lenin. Not to say anything, but I forgot about Lenin her feelings.

And I'm like, fuck. You know what I'm saying? She's being brought up in this whole thing. She really actually doesn't give a fuck. You feel me? So, you know what I'm? She's being a mom. She's doing her thing.

She's handling her business. You feel me? I can feel her on that level. And, you know, being brought up in all of this shit is just like, bro, it's the unwarranted, like, attention. Like, I don't need this shit. You know what I'm saying? She's just so not a part of this universe.

and she's just being a mom, doing her job. It's just like, I feel bad that like, you know, clearly I'm the one or like my universe is the thing that brings this weird fucking attention to her while she's just like minding her business and breastfeeding and shit. I think this universe brings everything. But you see how she's affected by,

she's affected by something, you know what I'm saying, that you brought along and, you know what I'm saying, your crew. But it's kind of like, that would, that have been the same thing for Housewinter, and that's how I felt with him. You know what I'm saying? He didn't want this attention.

It was brought to him by this shit, you feel me? And he had to handle it. And he don't have nobody backing him and saying, oh, you know what? Let me go talk for you, you feel me? And handle all this business. And that shit is kind of fucking his life up. You know what I'm saying? And he has to handle all of this shit.

So you got to kind of take into account of his feelings, too, because that's kind of like the same thing is intertwined. Like, that's what I was thinking when you said that too also. And I was like, well, fuck, that's kind of like what my boy is feeling too on that same level. I was like, you know, a lot of that shit should have been brought up and it should have been handled totally different. But now, you know, he doesn't have the backing and nobody really that could back him up and take up for him except his boys. And, you know, Pallor, you know, I commend them Pau Lord and Blasie for, you know, what they did for him. I mean, because that's the best thing that you can actually do for your friend.

You got fired for him. You know what I'm saying? And but the thing is also, though, from a- He didn't make a choice. From a strategic standpoint, you fired him before he could quit. No, we've fired. Nigger, you didn't pay him to begin with. Well, we told him he wasn't allowed on the podcast anymore, which is kind of, that's how you fire someone with it.

But if you're not getting no chilly, niggard. Well, why was he there anyway? I don't know. From a strategic standpoint, though, like what you doing that, especially when, you know, it's been alluded to on several podcasts that there's like this big thing, like, we know a big secret about you and blah, blah, blah, blah. And you kind of like knocking the wind out of the sales of that was strategic. the smartest thing you could have done. I was just watching it.

I thought, you know what? I think I care less about this than most other people involved. So why not? It makes it, it takes away a lot of the power. So on that level, you know, you definitely handled it like as, as G as somebody possibly could have in this unfavorable situation. And while being a total cuck like myself, right? My next question.

You said it. What, uh, my next question is, A.D. Are you going to punch sharp in the face? on behalf of Black 100 because that was a little awkward when I heard these accusations being done. When I tell my nephew it's time to go? Let me say this.

And a lot of people, and I'm glad we're talking about this right now. You go sock sharp, bro. You have to. Or you're going to get kicked off the Pai Roo card. Can we wait like 30 seconds so I go take a piss? No, yeah, we're going to wait. We can edit this out, baby. No, no, that's a good one. It's a good one. Just talk about it.

I'll talk about it. No, no, let's talk about something else. Yeah, yeah. When Adam comes, I want to make this shit clear. So let's keep it a stack. He was, like, completely flipped the script on that whole music argument earlier, like, now that he's gone. Oh, he was stripping. Yeah, like, 100%.

Yeah, he definitely did. He definitely slipped this. And then because I'm making hell of solid points, it's lush. He gave the vanilla-face, you know, answer. I feel like you're the new target now. Yeah, of course. Of course. Especially when I- Now he's like, nigger, you.

Especially when I'm making such concise points. When he starts calling you on your name? Straw Hat, man. You got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when you start calling you stupid and idiot? Nah, it's all the way. So I'm the new house phone.

No, you're the new me. I'm the new you. Yeah, I'm an idiot. T. I feel like T. Roran. I feel like T. Rhyl then rise up the ranks since he's been here now.

Now I'm T. You're the old T Rill. I'm old T Rell. Yeah, he was T. So is T Rell is permanent on a Tuesday show now? I think so. Yeah. He knows it.

I permanent. Oh shit. Yes, you is, bitch. No, I'm not. You're going to come every Tuesday. I'm getting up out of here, man. You're going to come every Tuesday. I don't even know why you want to talk to me right now.

I'm going to get my ass out of here. That nigga said, that shit falling apart. Man, look, check this out. Come here. Come here. Come here. I like it personally. I ain't going to lie if a motherfuckerer said, look, man, I fucked your bitch, man.

Sorry. That's going to bother you. That's going to bother you. But that's not the way it happened, though it wasn't even his bitch. It was just some girl he was fucking. But listen, for him, like I said, for him it's on brand. Yeah, but we're not wiping the bitches. That's a word.

Yeah, his brand totally don't care. It's totally different. Who gives this shit? Like, let's say, hypothetically speaking, if Tiger smashed Heather and T-Rail was still cool and hanging around, I'd be like, you was a bitch. That's me personally. You feel me? And I would want somebody to feel the same way about me.

But our brand is different. So basically, you just got the line. I don't want my homies to know certain intimate details personally. Wait, so you're going to beat up sharp. All right. So look, look, let me break down every fucking thing when it comes down to me. Leave all that in, by the way. Yeah, leave all that.

What were you talking about? What's the general? Oh, nothing. No, go. No, but let me break everything down when it comes down to, like, me and Wax's relationship. A lot of people, they'll be like, why do you never go at Wack? Why, are you afraid or are you this or you this, you that? Terrify.

Terrify, right? Let me tell you this. Wack has done a lot. for me to try to push my career further. You know what I'm saying? A lot. So certain things that he does, I just stay out of it, kind of like how Game does. Game is his manager. You don't, you, Blueface, he's Blueface Manager as well too. He stays out of certain antics. I do not agree what everything Wax says and he knows this shit. You feel me? Now, for one, when I got on the games album, on a documentary too, right? He said, hey, I'm giving you AD the O K to come do the album. You

You feel me? Put me on the album. We do the motherfucking video. There's a million bloods there. Me and all my homies, the blue side, he gives us our own trailer in his hood. When certain individuals, some of my homies was getting into with other individuals, you feel me? He took up for our homies.

You know what I'm saying? In his hood made sure everything was good. Y'all was in Pequimma? Yeah, we was in, we was in Pequemmen's Hood. Go watch it. After that, bro, he comes to my neighborhood, bro. Too deep, him and Wacko. They come too deep to me.

my hood, they put all my homies on fucking TV, streets of Compton documentary on A&E. You feel what I'm saying? So basically you're saying that this is why you will beat up. No, no, wait. Let me finish going. On top of that, there's a fucking commercial that me and game

did for this app and shit like that. Every single situation, he actually like tried to bang on my old manager like, you ain't doing what you're supposed to be doing. I snatched nephew up and I'm gonna call a bird man and try to link me with Kevin Gates. And then the tip of the iceberg was, nigga, we at Miami, nigga, everybody knows.

Club Live is not a place that you could just go perform at, bro. That's where Drake performs future, all the big dogs and shit like that. That nigga sees me in Miami. He walks me to the DJ booth Miami. Nigger, play this shit, let nephew perform. And I'm performing in Miami. My fucking, local L.A. hit.

So this is why you are required to beat up. No, it's not. No, it's not required. Part of your contract. He's saying this is why that he allows... I'm just saying that I don't get into the logistics on stuff like that. Now, Let's say I didn't have the relationship that I have with Sharp, Sharp was my boy. You feel me?

If I didn't have the relationship that I have with Sharp and it was just a random nigga and he was like, hey, nephew, take that Faye for me, I'm going to do that shit. Because I can call him and he's going to do the same for me. Hey, get down with this person. He's going to do the same for me in return. I don't think he knows me and Sharpe's relationship. That's my home boy. If anything, I'm going to try to, you know, Batman and shit and put them two on the phone and make it shit. I'm going to just stay out of it because he said I would open the door for him to,

Confront Sharp. No, no, no, no. We're not doing that for anybody. We got armed security here. Nobody's getting into the building. It does not have official business to do here. And on top of that, Sharp is my brother with an A at the end. I got mad love for him.

I would never let anything happen for him. To him. And bro, that shit was funny because I'm like... But shout out to whack. Because I got mad love for whack, but also, like, don't bring me into it. This is a place of business. Nobody getting smoked, beat up, jumped whatever here.

Leave me out of it. Do you think he did that because he was taking up for academics? Absolutely, right? I thought that was the point, no? No, I think the gist of it was I don't know if, because even like the clip,

they was already having a conversation and I've seen academics break it down. I said I guess Sharp was getting into it with the people on Clubhouse. And this is one thing that we got to, and me and myself and T. Oh, I thought it was already. Wait a minute.

Me, myself and T. T.R. included. It wasn't until I had, heard academics talk about the employee word. Like, why do us as minorities get so mad when we hear the employee word? You know what I mean? And even yesterday, academics spoke on it. You did the best job ever of getting mad at that.

I definitely did. Me too. I was a lot of the best things ever. And shout out to Dejohn, too, because... Well, he said it in a real derogatory way. And just believe me, being the boss is fucking overrated. Yes, you do, like, if you do well, you get to share in more of the profits, whatever, but also everything comes back to you.

If you can sue, if you go bankrupt, it's all you. Trust me, there's plenty of times in my life where I think, damn, I wish I was just more of like an employee. And I didn't have to be the person. Shout out. Shout out. Shout out. Shout out.

Shout out to Dejan, too, because I apologize to him. Because I was like, you know what? What you were saying, like, whether I took it that way or not, you weren't, you weren't lying, bro. And academics, when I was talking to him yesterday, he said, I am an employee of Spotify. And it's like, why wouldn't you want to be an employee at Spotify? They're one of the biggest corporations in the world And now they are extremely invested in his success.

Now, I'm not saying that means that he should stick with him forever Because maybe he just used them to get his podcast going. Maybe he's going to leave in a year or two or whatever. But, I mean, I don't see how anybody could look at that And think it's like a bad opportunity. And even academics yesterday, he said he likes what I got going on. He says, hey, these are boss of community, but he's an employee and no jumper. He said, you can be both.

There's nothing wrong with that shit. That's true then. But also what Sharp was trying to say, was I'm an independent contractor. And although I work... But let's keep it real. Sharp is in the same situation that me and T.Rail was in. We hear that word.

We think people are trying to shit on us. You feel me? Like, oh, you're an employee. Like, we're getting little paid or we're not getting paid. But we support... Like, we take that shit negatively. And when people need to embrace it, like, yeah, nigga, being employed, I'd rather be an employee making six figures than being...

You feel me? Exactly. Look, I'm an employee of no jumper. I'm like literally on the payroll. and I'm very proud and happy about it. And T.Rail has Back on Fig. He's the boss of Back on Fig. I'm the boss of community.

We're taking all the responsibility. That was just me coming from. You're the boss of all the minions. The yellow people that come around and shit, you know what? But me responding to that was just me coming from already like doing my own thing. So I'm like, I'm a what? And I had the thing and it didn't register yet. I'm like, no, I'm fucking not, bitch.

but in the grand scene of things like you are like you know what I'm saying and then how Adam broke it down how academic broke it down like I will actually I will actually bend over backwards Paul to work for certain companies

you know what I'm saying and be their employees to gain certain knowledge from these motherfuckers you feel me and to implement it into your everyday life or your business like so why not you feel me like you said like it did bother me from where we come from

you know what we did endure you feel me over over this over the time, motherfuckers trying to shit on us. And I just, you know, and I didn't like that. And he was one of the motherfuckers that was trying to do that. And, you know, I'm just, I'm giving you a platform. You feel me? Because your platform, his platform wasn't as big and probably, I ain't going to say never.

But it's not as big, you know, and it's not as big right now. We was giving him a shining a light on him. So we're doing him a justice, you feel me? So it's just all about how you look at it. You know what I'm saying? Like, so I had to educate myself and you guys had to educate me on, on like, okay, look at it in a better light. You feel me?

Because I didn't come from that shit. But to be fair, the reason, I understand why you guys took offense to the way he said it. Exactly. Realistically, when you come to No Jumper, like the way that you guys came here, it's like, are you technically employees, yes. Does it really feel like that that much? I mean, for the most part, you guys are just getting on camera and talking, and it's not like we really put too many restrictions on it.

And it's like, you know, it's like with you and the interviews, it's been pretty open-ended. It's not really like fucking some thing where it's like, super strict. Like T. Rowell, you got to do this and this and not these other things you want to do. So I understood why in that moment it was kind of jarring for you guys

just because you really seemed like you hadn't really thought about it that way. But I think the bigger point is just that there's nothing shameful about that. Like imagine Rock Nation hit me up tomorrow or some label or whatever and they said, yo, Adam,

we want to give you 50 grand a month to do this, this and this. It's not, you know, like I would be a fool if I didn't consider it. But they,

you see him working here, sway our decisions, you know, you know, sway my opinion on different things that's happening out here because I am an employee out here or, you know, I'm not responding how they want me to respond because now it's like, you know, master 22 going to get you, or this

and not and the other, you feel me, but I'm like, this thing is. Yeah, but I'm like, this thing are really, really open-minded about everything. You know what I'm saying? You might not always believe it on this podcast. Just because I, like, am willing to argue about pretty much anything on the podcast doesn't mean that I'm like, you know, try to control the way you guys

move on here or whatever. There's been very few things like that. I was like, you are not allowed to say this thing anymore. Yeah, I pretty much can say what I won't. I've never been told like, I can say. Me and Josh were talking about that earlier where he was like, listen, even if y'all have a different of opinion to Adam, he still let y'all get on his platform and platform that. We can sit here and say whatever the fuck we won't. I can say it's probably been maybe one or two times you said, hey, you even say don't talk about it. You're like, try to not go as crazy as you would. But that's like within three. years, maybe twice you can say something like that.

And you never, you never told me, don't talk about this. Realistically, Adam, would you want a bunch of people on the pod that, like, had a hive mind and thought exactly like you and weren't down to debate? I know other podcasts that I've listened to, like not with any kind of regularity because they usually suck ass, but I've listened to other people's podcasts where it's so obvious to me that the host told the co-host, like, your job is to agree with everything I say and ask maybe some little like follow up questions, but never question me, never like provide your own narrative. And in a way, I can see why it's kind of good because it does help them stay

on point and everything. But at the same time, it's like just not really, it's definitely not what people want from this fucking podcast where they want to see us really engage in like that random fucking argument that we got into earlier about artists or whatever. I mean, I'm sure that the people at home, that's probably going to be like a highlight of the episode. Even though it was like harmless shit where it's like none of us are you going to even remember that we fucking argued about that by the end of the day or whatever it was just music talk you know i'm always take the slack i'm getting a gang of slack and i'm always taking the worst end of it because the mill situation and whatever the case may be you came on back on figure you know what i'm saying

you let that be known or whatever the case may be but i i'm taking a lot of slack for that but you know it was it was it was a whole lot of things that determined you know whether or not you know i'm saying I should fuck with him, you know what I'm saying, and do this and do this, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, take Adam's feelings into consideration. It was, it was, that's how I more so felt about it. And the people out here really don't know that like, okay, like, how he come in here, just put his foot down and said, fuck you. Like, it was just like, you know, a nice little dialogue rather, you know,

and put it in there like, hey, bro, I feel this type of way, I fuck with this and I fuck with that. And it's just me as a homie, you feel me? I felt like making that decision, not me as a fucking employee. You know what I mean? Yeah, because everything's a consensual discussion of what we're comfortable with, you know? And it's like, for me, I think especially after the past month or two, it's like even more obvious to me than ever that we got to really like work at moving like a team trying not to like have the conversations about each other that certain people aren't comfortable or whatever. Like that's just even more obvious to me now. So I feel like I think really all things considered we're probably getting better at it.

I think also we're at the point where so much of our dirt. has already come to the surface. It's like, what else is there left to discuss? Like, we're already butt-booty naked to the world at this point. We're all booty-licious, really. It's, like, pretty much... There's a Beyonce song, I know. We're accustomed to it.

Like, we're accustomed to it, so it's better. Let me throw something out there. And also, shut out of sharp. I don't know if I emphasize this enough, but I got nothing but love for Sharp, I will protect Sharp at all costs. Shout out to Wack 2. Shouse is sharp. That's a given, man.

But I'm not going to enable these reindeer games. Anyway. slap you bro. I will not do anything like this. Now, come on. But this is the other thing I want to suck a bunch of. All right. We ain't let whack in this motherfucker man.

So throughout the history of the No Jumbers show, we, in the early days, we would pre-record it, I believe. And then that at some point kind of stopped and we started doing it live. And I don't really remember when Tuesday became like the default day and 6 p.m. became the default time. But I'm going to be real with you. Like, my life has changed a lot. I get up at six in the morning.

6 p.m. feels fucking so late to me. And the fact that we pre-recorded this episode on Monday morning, I'm not sure if the people noticed it or if it's just me, but I was like really looking forward to this in a way where usually on Tuesday, because Tuesday's the beginning of the week, it's also when I tend to be doing a lot of interviews. So a lot of times it's like I do two or three interviews and then have to hop on the stream

for two hours and do this. I enjoyed doing this in the morning a lot more. And I know that some percentage of the audience are going to be pissed off about the idea of it not being live, but I would kind of love to keep recording in the morning on like Monday or Tuesday if other people were down. I'm down. As long as,

I feel like as long as it gets premiered so the chat can go crazy, then it don't really matter. Because the thing about it is that we never look at the chat anyway. So it's not really like we're live anyway. If we could fool them, they probably wouldn't even know. I feel like we all had more energy. We were all more like invested in it.

Everybody was excited. Why are y'all adding me into what y'all doing on Tuesday? I don't give a, what? He wants you to give him a formal. I don't want him to do anything. That's your ass up. You over there and cheese. Why they try to add me to this shit?

Please, add me. Add me. They just bullied me into this shit. Let us know in the chat, do you want to see you out here? Because I can see it going either way. They just bully me. It's a wobbler. It's a wobler.

Who the fuck else you're going to put right there? Do you? I know the chat goes say, of course. Who else? Who else? Who else? He has dropped shesty comments about how he was annoyed that he didn't get added to the show when we added Lutz. Who told you that? He said shit to me and we heard it. He hated me for months. To be fair, to be

fair, Lush, I love you. I think you so much. But you was a bitch. It should have been T. Rell before you. You're my nigga though. But I love it. It worked out. Why am I? No, I didn't know you like that until I got to know you on the Tuesday. Let me just speak on this. When I, when we added Lush and not T. T.rell, like, the mentality on that was I was, I was like, T-Row is like a dope edition of Wednesday. I don't want to cannibalize the Tuesday show by just, oh, this guy's dope on the Wednesday show. The fans seem like they really like them. Let's just get them on Tuesday, too. Because I feel like we have to, over time, build up more hosts, and we don't want it to be like...

Which I love. We don't want it to be the same people on stream every fucking night. So that was my main thought process. I took it. I didn't argue with each other all day. That's why. And you didn't want to sit there and deal with this. I love talking to him, and I like being on camera with him, even though he is kind of an asshole sometimes.

and his arguing sometimes leaves a little bit to be desired. But overall, I would say I really like being on camera with T. Rowe's. So that's why I'm not, I'm not like announcing, oh, T.Row is going to be with us forever. I'm just saying I would be. I would be open to. That's the same thing you said about me. Y'all talking about my feelings as if I discussed it with them.

And then they're just adding me to this shit. Like, y'all punking me. And then going to have a taut of fans give a fucking ultimatum. He's there. I enjoy having this ugly motherfucker sitting next to me on the pod. You make no decision. Shut the fuck up. I personally, for what it's worth.

To me, to me, for what is. We're going to make no decision. House phone is irreplaceable on the Tuesday show. Absolutely. But if I'm a duel with somebody, it's going to be with my board. Pause. Pause. White phone.

Yeah, for sure. Still a maybe. What else are you? Y'all got to sit here with lunch. Oh, I have such a good... That's what your ass got to do. You guys are just going to keep sitting closer and closer until you're rubbing legs. I promise we won't.

He got that pillow to separate us. Okay. This is my final topic. This is a burling wall right here. That's the Duno pillow. This is my final topic. So over the weekend, I just happened to see a photo of MGK leaving Drake's Super Bowl party. And, you know, didn't think about it too hard.

It was just like, oh, yeah, it's Super Bowl time. Celebrities doing stuff. There's MGK, my op. He's famous. More famous than me. He's at the Super Bowl party. Cool. And then I see.

that at some point, I think it was Saturday night, his girl burned his possessions and put, which song was it again? Some sad-ass song about somebody breaking their heart and lying to him and shit. So I don't know what this freaky guy was doing at the Super Bowl part. And, oh, is she still following him? Followed Eminem.

That's some weird shit. And it's only three people she follows. She follows Harry Stiles, Eminem. I mean, she was super. You know what would be? She ran right to the aisle. Hey, honestly, since you have. She should have been.

She should have, and she should be on Plug Talk. if she was on plug talk I think it would be really good for her career I mean that's what happens when you drink each other blood and do wild shit like that I mean Yeah once she drinks your blood

you can't expect her to not burn your possessions and follow Eminem Do you think Eminem DM DMD her? No Fuck no Think he that Betty? Nah Hell no

He don't want that pussy no But the whole thing about that That's kind of weird is like To me that's like a rap beef You know like If my if me and my girl broke up And she followed some like

podcast that I had an issue with or whatever. That's kind of, but, but if it's like a purely like, like, the Eminem, MGK beef was just, like, rapping shit. It's not like they were looking for each other. Well,

if you follow somebody that shot at my crib or fucking, that I've been having to be scared of day to day in my life, that to me is way more fucked up. Her phone, Eminem, like, him and MGK, they were never going to fight, right? But, but let's be real.

First of all, MGK was talking about Eminem's daughter. That's what really incensed the whole situation. That is what started. And then, like, they had, they had adult back. What did he actually say about his daughter?

He said like, oh, she's looking pretty cute. He was underage. Yeah, yeah. He didn't know. That following shit is crazy. But regardless, look, like, they had a really dope from like a hip-hop perspective. They had a dope back and forth. M-GK's disc track was actually hard.

Eminem is fucking Eminem and he went crazy. And here's the reason. Here's the thing, though. Here's the thing, though. This fool, MGK as a result, is, exiled from hip hop culture and fucking became a pop punk sensation. But he became successful though. More successful than ever before.

By far. And made good music in the context of what that is. However, the only reason we gave him a pass for wearing those fucking fruity ass nails and dressing like Sam Smith and doing all that shit is because he had Megan Fox, a top-notch piece of ass. Is that why? Hell yeah. And now that she shook.

I don't give me a word. I just wasn't really paying attention. You want to wear pink leather jeans, I don't care about. I was like, you know what, at least you're fucking making fucks. And at the end of the day, now that she shook spot, he's looking real shaky out here, baby. He looks real. I really love him because he's a great dad. He has an interracial daughter.

He has a black daughter. You know what I'm saying? They're very, very close. You know what I'm saying? That's like his best friend. And I follow that, you know what I'm saying? That side of him. I really don't give him fuck about the music.

You feel me? Like, but him outside of that, like, he's a very, very great dad. you feel me like his daughter i don't know anything about his parenting i haven't really looked into that side of his person you don't want to he has a black daughter just just let the record reflect doing hip-hop you need to do that you know what i'm saying like it and he's a good and he's a good actor too you know what i'm saying not to put a race in it but you feel me like he's very very white wasn't he in burrots this has always been my observation about m gk's pivot out of hip-hop into pop punk is that you would kind of think that any rapper who was relatively well-known and popular in hip-hop that if they

did that. If they pivoted to a completely different John and went to the rock side of things, it would be a big deal. And everybody would be talking about it in hip hop, at least for a little while. I don't feel like I've ever seen anybody in hip hop have any fucking serious conversations about the fact that MGK pivoted to being a pop punk dude,

which granted for him is probably a good thing because he was able to kind of avoid the controversy of him leaving hip-hop. But normally when somebody pivots out of hip-hop and starts doing white boy shit, everybody wants to say, oh, look how we use the culture to get on, look at this, whatever. That's untrue because Charlamagne did it.

Charlemagne called him out. And he always calls out Post Malone. He did? Post Malone. He did. You know, this all goes, it started with Bubba Sparks when he made his second album, which actually a really good album, the deliverance album. He started veering into, like, the country elements way way more.

A lot of people have done that now. But I think the thing is, is that black people can't do that. Right. They're not received. White people can do that. Look what Yadi just did. Yadi just did it very, very well. But I don't think he's still like, he's still looked as a rapper, though.

Yeah, he's not in the pop culture. Like, he's not in there. No, you're right. I think a lot of, I think a huge percentage of country fans would probably be like pretty willing to accept black country stars. And there are, I'm just kidding. That's true. That's, that's a hoon. No, no, no.

Let me give you a fine example. Well, Lil Nas X. They was hating that shit. They were. They tried to go country. They hated. But there is one that didn't work. There is one that worked.

What about, I'll give you an example. The people. I'll give you an example, Nelly. Yeah, yeah. Nellie. Tim McGraw, Nellie, you feel me? They took little Nogh, X out the country category until he did the remix with Billy Ray Saher. Maybe the country fans weren't like dying to accept this little homosexual kid, like making country songs.

But I don't think, I mean, he had a number one song. You know, he had a number one song. But he never made another country song after that also. And the extent to which that was a. Country song in the first place is a fucking jump. It had like a country sample in it. He had the horses in the back, fool. But it was his tone.

He sounded like a white guy. I actually, now, I must be real, I consider that completely appropriate that they kept that off the country charts because it wasn't a fucking country song in the first place. And once they put Billy Ray Cyrus on, I get it a little bit more. But I always thought that was a pretty fair decision. Also, yo, somebody hit me up and said that this is a really nice coffee table. It is. I had no idea.

Vlad was like, I got that in my house. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? And then you send me a picture. And I'm like, I never even looked at it. before. Hey, so if you get into a... I've never seen an architect if you get into a linen, she just unfollow everybody.

And her only person she follows is housefall. It's over. Where are we taking this? It's over. I'd be like, you're a grimy Armenian bitch. You know that? I had to do that

before we get up out of here. I got to throw a shot. I got to throw a joke. This is why he don't want you a Tuesday. No. Okay. He's going to take it back. You're right. I take it back.

I hate the sky. I hate this guy. No, but it's like a more, like, we don't know who MGK is, like, biggest beef in real life is. I guarantee that there's somebody that he has, like, a former friendship. Yeah, but, like, no, because me and him is still, like, jokey, like, public figure beef. It's not like we really fucking hate, we don't know enough about each other. They're like, like, he was pretty mad.

I mean, the last time I've seen you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but, okay, there's a big fucking difference between shit that's super personal between friends and shit that's, like, celebrities having their, like, these little, like, publish, public skirmishes. that affect their ego. Like the me and MGK thing was like some jokey public shit. Just like to me,

the Eminem and MGK shit was some jokey public shit. There's probably somebody he really hates. And she was saying, who else was she following? I think the fact she followed Eminem shows that he really hates her.

That might be true. He maybe, he really, or she just couldn't think of somebody any better. Because, I mean, really, maybe he hates Eminem like that

because he thinks that Eminem is really the reason why he had to go do this pop-pump thing, even though he's probably, he's probably happier doing the pop-pong shit than the hip-hop. He probably like, You think it's only want me to be a rapper anyway, so fuck y'all, but I really can rap better

than all y'all anyway. But it proved it when he did this whole little disc on Eminem. He has said that he plans on coming back to hip-hop, which if I was his manager, I would probably say, like, nah, just stick to the pop shit. Right now. Stick to pop. Yeah, stick to pop way over here, Don. I mean, but you can't tell you nobody, though.

That's his past, his main past. But if I was his manager, I would try to strongly urge him. Do you think Jack Harlow is going to make that move? Absolutely. Hell no. thousand percent. I don't see Jack Harlow and any other genre. He will solely transition into other genres, even though I think he's probably smart enough to keep hip-hop as his base. He's going to stay doing hip-hop. He's so early in his career. What he's going to be doing eight years

from now, yeah, I'm sure he'll segue into other genres. Like you said, having him in those Dorito commercial is monumental right now. But props to him for putting on- I fuck with Jack Harlow. Putting on ESDG and shit on records, I fuck with him. You know what I don't, like, when I was watching the Doritos commercial, I don't know why, but the Doritos bag just, but the Doritos bag just looked crazy to me. Like, it just looked like they had, like, like, it was CGI or something. It's marketing. It just looked nuts. And I don't know why exactly.

Hey, um, and see, they got you, because you're like, you're probably going to see the real stuff. Hey, do we put Russ? Do we put Russ in his white, uh, rapper category? Yeah. Russ is dope. He's always been, like, outside of, like, he's, uh, I feel like he just, I feel like, R.M. Not white. And he's not really that white. He's white. He's white, as

far as a large percentage of the population, who listens to rap considers, right? Hey, um, I don't know. I don't know. I just don't consider him like no corny. You know what I was saying about? I respect everybody. I don't feel like it's that. If you can rap, you can write your own shit, you can produce your shit and engineer your shit.

There's not a lot of people that could do that. Here's a question that I was thinking about the other day. Did hip hop stop picking on Russ or did Russ just stop saying controversial statements? No, Russ started whooping ass and tell niggas is leaving him alone. That is a very good point too. But also, I feel like it's been a long time since I heard Russ say one of those things that he used to kind of say, lot at the time that like pissed everybody off. He's not as outspoken as he used to be.

It seems like he kind of maybe at a certain point was like, all right, I'm gonna. I mean, he grabbed their attention, more attention from people because, uh, I mean, like, what they say? Bad publicity, good publicity. It's all the same. To be fair, he had a gigantic fucking fan base even then. And I don't think that like him beefing with me or smoke perper or whatever was like helping his fan base at all.

Like his fan base didn't care at all about that beef shit. That was the whole thing because every time somebody would say something about him, he's doing a sold out show and showing a fucking crowd. that's the easiest way to shit on somebody. If I'm Russ, I'd probably rather just focus on that and not be like trying to beat with 808 Mafia on fucking Twitter one day or whatever. Like it's probably

like at a certain point he was like, you know what? Or have somebody attack at him. Right. This shit is probably overshadowing some of the fact that he's insanely successful music. Well, and him being like on this anti-industry tirade. That seemed to be like the whole undercurrent of a lot of his

outbursts where like, I'm independent, so I'm making all my money and all you fucking industry artists or fucking holes. You were about to say the N-Word. I'm black history, my. What the fuck?

Yeah, he was. He was about to say it. And he was. Lush called me the other day saying it like 10 times. Yeah. Oh my God. I had to hang up. I said it to AD the other day.

He wasn't tripping in a lot. Really? No. I'm about to say. Whoa. I didn't say it, period. Letting that go. I've definitely said it before.

My friend, uh, I knew it. Yeah, whack. Sick me on him. I knew some guys with a clothing company and they made a hat that said the W version of the N-word. You know what I'm talking about? On a hat. And I said to him, I'm like, how did that sell when you put it out? He goes, it's so good, but I don't be real.

I don't think it was worth it. From a distance, nobody noticed that it was a W. It's really, it's not the word to be saying. I mean, a WD., and an end just like from a distance. You're a Wigar. They're a little too close. It's an extra little squiggly. It's one line extra.

You feel like you're a Wiggard, Lush. I do. Lush, you're a Wigr. He's a wigger. Oh, him? Yeah. I was talking about me, but him too, yeah. I mean, it's really not

He's definitely a wicker To anybody who seriously uses that term I feel like they would have to get rid I for sure, but like I can see Lush being one of them people that stands up in Black History Month and have a four Dachiki on and be in front of the picture like this

Ketai cloth and all that You gotta get you one of them fits You know what? Lush Pelosi I used to I feel like that's a super antiquated word at this point Like, people shouldn't even be saying it, period. Like, I did when I was younger.

I would hear that shit. But like, the N-word, right? No, the W word. Oh, okay, okay. The W word. Which derives directly from that. Wait, Lutz, what is your real name? It does.

Nick. Nick Sharpton. Nick Fonte's. Nick Hortons. It's a nickname. Nicholas. Nicholas. Nickette Shack.

Your name's Nicholas? Nicholas Tubman. Oh, you're really fucking white out here. Say, Nick. Is that a super white? Come on, Nicholas. Is that a super white name? Come here, Wiggilus.

You know any black guys named Nick? Yeah, I know. Absolutely. Nicholas, it's a wobbler. That ain't really no white name. I've seen those lists of like the most black names and the most white names. I don't know no Jamal. Honestly, I think that's gone out of favor.

When I was right now in 2023. Yeah, I know Jim. I don't remember seeing Nicholas on it. When I was growing up, people always call me Nikki. Like, that was always been my name. She's a bit. Nicky Manage. My boy named Nicky.

Minage. Nicky Lush. Hey, Dwy Mnage, Lush. Mickey Sita. Mickey Sita. I'm fighting all you all right now?

Yeah. Zita! Oh, Nikki. Stop it, Nikki. Leave it on a little. The crackheads going crazy. All right. We out of here.

This has been a nice long episode. If you want us to keep going and giving you more time on the fucking playlist, this is what we're going to keep doing it early. Shout out, Dickie Minaj. Hey, this is what we know.

But, hey, RIP to Trugoy, the dove, plug to from De La So old. If you die during the Super Bowl, that is like a terrible result because everybody's going to be paying attention to the Super Bowl. I feel bad for them. RIPP, you feel me. I listen to Dallas all the fucking time around my kid and shit.

Hip hop legends. That was a sad one, man. Absolutely. For sure. Appreciate everybody who watch this. Nojummer.com if you want to support, like, comment, subscribe, et cetera. We out.

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