No Jumper - The No Jumper Show Ep. 187

Episode Date: March 1, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper, coolest podcast on the world. I'm in here, sitting here, real, real comfy in my fashion over jeans. Out the gate. And I'm sitting next to A.D., Lus one, and T.R. And we're back on the show. Yeah, what's the deal? So before we even get into anything, we are 14 minutes late. We are not.
Starting point is 00:00:18 You're not. He wasn't. But Lush. I think we're all in the same boat that we want to make sure that this isn't a precedent that you plan on continuing. Won't happen again, Chief. He just been messing up on Black History Month. God. Starting stuff.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Is that what this is all been about? Yeah. Shout out Graff Woo. You didn't feel me? Don't worry about that. That's real fly, T. Yeah, real fashion. You icey.
Starting point is 00:00:41 You icey. Graff wolf? A woo. It's like a wolf that does graffiti? Graph, Wu. Oh, Graph, Woo. It's a Wu? A graphic woo.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Like the Woo's in Brooklyn? She won up with the... I don't know. Let's just keep it positive. Keep it. Graph, Wu. Yeah. Or like Wu-Tang.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Hey, I really had a lot of positive feedback being on a sledge lord's me too Yeah I saw that I thought she was gonna beat up Danny Muller But the only thing I tripped them right before that I know
Starting point is 00:01:09 You did you did Yes that was real That was a real trip I tripped You gotta get it off But that was cool The only thing is They were just really mad about me
Starting point is 00:01:19 Talking about the American flag A lot of people I saw A lot of people thought That you were talking about the Confederate flag But that we thought That you were talking
Starting point is 00:01:28 about the American flag And I even saw some people acting like, we were trolling. Like, we should have known you meant the Confederate flag. And I'm like, no, I think he meant the American flag. Yeah, I was talking about the American flag. But I was trolling, too. But it was good, though, man. He said that somebody, it seems racist to have an American flag in front of your house,
Starting point is 00:01:45 which I don't agree with because, you know, like we said the podcast, we live in America. We are Americans. I did. A lot of American flag. A bunch of people would say. I feel like when people put the American flag in front of their house is almost like, I'm still part of the KKK.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Don't worry about nothing. Oh, yeah. I still got it. For sure, sometimes that is what it means. Like, for sure, sometimes it's like, oh, I'm an American. Everybody else. But I would say that's like a relatively smaller percentage. If you use the one with the 13 stars, like the year, that's a little bit dicey.
Starting point is 00:02:14 The 13 stars means what, the 13 colonies? That was like the original American flag was just the 13 colonies. You got one of those? Yeah. I don't got one of those. That's crazy. I used to, but there's a lot of photos from back in the day like 2012 where I had an American flag hanging above my bed.
Starting point is 00:02:28 And it wasn't for any reason. It was just like, I went to Walmart and I just shot and I was like, oh, that's hard. If I've seen that, I'd be like, yeah, that nigga, he don't like Black people. In this day and age, I wouldn't really blame you for making that assumption, especially knowing what a terrible racist I am. But you're up there. I don't, I like the flag. If you're living in a place like Los Angeles, it kind of has like a weird,
Starting point is 00:02:50 it has a different accent as opposed to if you're in like middle America where people are super pro-American and it doesn't really have like, It doesn't necessarily mean you're as racist, but I feel like if you have an American flag in the middle of L.A. Kind of hits a little bit different. If someone has an American flag hanging on their front porch in Compton, and you're just sort of walking down the street and you see it, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:03:12 I'm going to take it. You want to be honest. Are you really? No, but no, you wouldn't. But why would you do with it? You're not taking it. Because who's something. Rocking up the street?
Starting point is 00:03:24 Like, Hul Kogan? Holokin did have that, right? I would think it was like a military family or something like that. You know what I mean? Or I would just think that they were conservative probably. I live in a confident 20 years. I've never seen an American flag on anybody's porch. But I wonder if you would notice.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Like, would it even stand out that much? It would definitely stand out. You know what? I got to just stop just assuming and just whoever has American flag that I feel like is hanging up on their front porch. I should just knock on their door and ask them what's the symbolism behind it. Should attack them. Somebody going to shoot you.
Starting point is 00:03:57 You're going to get, why you got to get? Why you got this American flag up? Hey, what's up with you? But I got a homie. He lived like in fear neighborhood. Like, it's smaller houses, but like there's a lot of houses that have the American flag, you know, posted up in front of their house. He even has a pole, you feel me, like in front of his house. Yeah, and I was like, take it out.
Starting point is 00:04:16 He was like, no, I ain't going to take it out right now. I was like, we'll put the Mexican flag up there and see what they do. Like a flag pole? It's a flag pole. Like a 500 foot tall pole? Yes. You just put it all the way up there? Like, he was, like, before he was there, like, before he got there, somebody was going crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Like, he was the, you know what? What's the difference with you between the American flag and the Hoover flag? Hoover has, doesn't have a flag, you feel what I mean? Well, they have a rag. I mean, it's just orange. I feel like that's a flag. Yeah, but that's all kinds of cool white lines and stuff in there. Don't get along with my hood come here.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Well, now that, you know, I'm just a little bit more polished and, you know, knowing what Hoover means and Jay Edgar Hoover, you know, knowing what he was about. That shit, I don't. But he didn't have anything to do with the Hoover. He was, he was obsessed. Is the street names after him? He was obsessed with Martin Luther King, bro. He asked him to put niggins in jail for Uber.
Starting point is 00:05:10 No. He got a whole gang named after this. You feel me? I got a whole folder full of Martin Luther King Jr. deep fake porn on my computer. So don't try to act like you care more about that than the men. Jay Edgar Hoover, he was gay, huh? Let's just keep looking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Damn. So is that like a Hoover? But he doesn't have anything to do with that. He didn't like, hey, he was setting up, you know what I'm saying, the Black Panther party. He was doing all the type of. He was obsessed. Just because they named the strong.
Starting point is 00:05:35 The gang after the street. There's no flag to represent that in my eyes. But you guys have a flag, but you effectively use, right? It's just a color. That's good. What if you just had the Astros logo? The flag. Yeah, the logo is good.
Starting point is 00:05:50 It's basically just the color, orange. Tell fear he should have some strippers To dance on the pole See how that had a neighborhood fear I'm just talking to the door though I ain't even gonna lie About the American flag Yeah I'm gonna ask him
Starting point is 00:06:01 Like what's the symbolism Like what do you think Like what is like a mostly white neighborhood now Predominantly 99% He got black neighbors I got three black neighbors Really? Oh big court Thanks for
Starting point is 00:06:13 He was Well I know he's not anymore Yeah for dominantly white for sure 99% I love it though Yeah You ain't never talked to him? Who?
Starting point is 00:06:23 My neighbors? Yeah, yeah, I talked to all of them. Like, come over barbecue, buddy. No, that's out. Can we pull up the full Scott Adams quote so that we could get into that as long as we're talking about living in racially diverse areas? Because I got hit up about this by Vlad. Because Vlad interviewed Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, like six years ago or whatever. And he already at that time was claiming, like, Trump is going to win.
Starting point is 00:06:47 I support Trump. Trump is the best, yada, yada. and that was pretty controversial at the time. And I think a bunch of newspapers dropped Dilbert as a result. But his latest comments have actually got him dropped by like hundreds and hundreds of newspapers. And Vlad publicly declared they was never going to interview him again, et cetera. Did he say he wanted? He went off the rails, man.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Did he say he wanted Trump to win? Or did he say Trump was going to win? I think both at that time. Well, I mean, he turned out to be right. Well, yeah, he was definitely prophetic. statement about African Americans. I used to like Dilbert, too, man. Dilbert kind of weak, let's be real.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I would not, but at the time, remember they had that TV show on Fox? It wasn't a lot of, like, you know, TV like that back then. Josh, can you find me the full clip? Because I don't want to just read a bunch of, like, random clips. If, you know, nearly half of all blacks are not okay with white people, according to this poll. Paul, for a second. When you say something. When he says that, when he says more than half of blacks are not okay with white people,
Starting point is 00:07:47 I guess there was a study or a poll that asked black people if they agreed with the statement, it's okay to be white. Which is kind of like a thing that has been used similar to like All Lives Matter where there's been people putting up posters and like different cities and stuff that say it's okay to be white
Starting point is 00:08:03 and it's kind of like a trolley type statement that's trying to get a reaction from people because I would think most people would agree that it's okay to be white, but the context of that has been sort of changed to whatever. It's like anti-inclusion. It's a weird thing. to ask in a poll, because it just feels like kind of like, it's like a leading thing where you're trying to get a very specific reaction.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Like anybody was asked to be born, black, white, Asian, doesn't fucking matter. I wanted to be born Asian. According to this poll. Probably did. That's what a girl's. That's a hate group. And I don't want to have anything to do with them. And I would say, you know, based on the current way things are going, the best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from black people.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Just get the fuck away. Wherever you have to go, just get away. Because there's no fixing this. This can't be fixed. This can't be fixed. You just have to escape. So that's what I did. I went to a neighborhood where, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:06 I have a very low black population. Actually, you know, there's a high correlation between the density. This is according to Don Lemon, by the way. So here I'm just quoting Don Lemon. when he notes that the, when he lived in a mostly black neighborhood, there were a bunch of problems that he didn't see in white neighborhoods. So even Don Lemon sees a big difference in your own quality of living based on where he lived and who's there.
Starting point is 00:09:38 So I think it makes no sense whatsoever as a white citizen of America to try to help black citizens anymore. It doesn't make sense. It's no longer rational He can pause it. What do we think? I think he has nightmares
Starting point is 00:09:55 of being in Africa. Powder's tripping out of here. I mean, the predominantly black neighborhoods right now, I mean, in California would be like in the inner cities,
Starting point is 00:10:09 South Central and stuff like that. So if he's referring to that, you feel what I mean? Being a, a white person, a white male, female, whatever the case may be. Yeah, get your ass out of there. Don't live in those neighborhoods.
Starting point is 00:10:23 You know what I'm saying? You need, because you're not safe there. So why are they buying up all those neighborhoods now, too? To sell it to other white people. It's not like they're trying to live there, right? No, there's a lot. They're trying to gentrify it. There's a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:10:35 They're tearing down the projects. Like, if you, they're tearing down the projects right now, or they already tore down the projects, but they're doing all these things. These people are moving back. Like, my mom's neighbors now, All these white people are moving in buying a border property. Compton's real estate is sky high right now.
Starting point is 00:10:50 They're trying to move back. But they're kind of doing that under the assumption that there's going to be a lot less of these problems, inner city problems that they would normally expect in the future. Like in Englewood and shit, they're building all this crazy developments and stuff. It's like the people who are moving there or buying real estate or thinking about moving there
Starting point is 00:11:07 are kind of like doing that under the assumption that this place is going to change a shitload over the next few years. And they've been doing that a lot. Like, we all know what they do. They take everybody from over here and they move them to the motherfucking IE and they move them to Marino Valley. But no, that's fucked up to put that stigma on our people. In other states, they have predominantly black neighborhoods like Atlanta and the southern
Starting point is 00:11:32 states where there's educated people, you know what I'm saying, with high morals in these fucking in these states and these neighborhoods where there's no problems. You know, they're educated, they're rich. So to say that is really crazy. You know what I'm saying? To get away from those black neighborhoods with those problems, like identify the problems
Starting point is 00:11:52 that you're actually talking about. So, you know what I'm saying? We will know, like, because what is actually the problem that you're trying to get away from? Because to me, this is just like a guy who spends way too much time online because based on your experience,
Starting point is 00:12:05 my experience of being a white man, how many black people have I met where I genuinely felt like they weren't okay with me existing. He's describing black people as a whole as a hate group. How often in your life as a white person have you actually encountered like real aggression from a black person based on your skin color? For me, the answer I think is never or like pretty close to that. Black Israelites, that's probably like the exception. But even them, they used to be outside my apartment in
Starting point is 00:12:34 Korea town and I would walk right by and they'd be screaming about a bunch of anti-white shit. And it's not like they said anything to me personally. It's not like I fell attacked. They definitely didn't. They didn't even make eye contact with me, and I didn't make eye context with them because I'm just used to living in metropolitan areas where you're around people with all kinds of eclectic opinions. And I also wasn't really aware of, like, how anti-white they were at the time. So I didn't think about that much. If I was a black man, I'd be worried about my own people rather than be worried about white people. That's true. Right now in 2003, I'm worried about my own people, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:13:05 My own family and friends, you feel me, that I actually kill you. You feel me? Like, so I'm not really worried about the one. white man and what he has going on. I mean, there is some instances where you feel me that we've done some wild shit in the past. But I wouldn't hold that to the
Starting point is 00:13:22 black people in general across the world. But that's the problem where it's like a lot of those areas, you have a lack of fathers, a lack of male influences, positive male influences in those areas. You've got liquor stores on every corner. You don't have a lot of
Starting point is 00:13:38 programs that's helping the kids out and stuff like that. And, you know, a lot of people grew up trying to figure this shit out. You know what I'm saying? They're looking at videos. They're trying to, let's keep it real. They fucking robbing shit. They feel like, oh, I gotta sit there and do this.
Starting point is 00:13:54 I gotta live like this. And we can't sit there and just turn our back on our people. And be like, ah, yeah, get the fuck out of there and do that shit. Like, no, if anything, people like us need to step up and help out way more. But this nigger, he just need to say he don't like black people. But let's be real.
Starting point is 00:14:08 You guys are both including this. When black people make a significant amount of money in America, they tend to move to, like, purely white areas for the most part, right? They just happen to be white areas because, you know, I'm not trying to move to a white area. What's he said earlier.
Starting point is 00:14:24 You want to move to a rich area? I just want to move where it's just nicer, you know, like, and just so happen, white people are there. This is not an issue of race. This is about socioeconomic class is what it comes down to. And it just so happens, there's like more of a propensity for certain races
Starting point is 00:14:40 to be lower on that scale. But like Terell said earlier, there's a lot of neighborhoods like College Park, Atlanta, like a lot of different parts of the Bay Area and Oakland and things like that. And even in L.A., Florida, for sure. Look at Lederah Heights.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Look at Upper Baldwin Hills. Like these are pretty much damn near exclusively black neighborhoods that have very low crime, high on good education, good school system, and everything like that. just overall high quality of life. Okay, but just hypothetically, like the argument that he's putting forth here, it starts with the assumption and the idea that 50% of black people are not okay with white
Starting point is 00:15:23 people existing. So let's just reverse this. Say you're a black guy and you read this poll and you find the data convincing and it tells you that 50% of white people don't want you anywhere near them. It would be reasonable based on that information for you to say, well, fuck this. I ain't living around any fucking white people that 50% of them hate me and don't want me to exist. Now, I think the problem is that he's basing this whole argument on this reaction that who knows how many black people had in response to like what is essentially like a political slogan with the it's okay to be white thing. I don't think that if you were to actually do some like deep polling of the average black person in America, I think you would find that the vast majority of them have pretty chill attitudes about white people when it comes to like interacting with.
Starting point is 00:16:10 them on their day-to-day life. But I do think that all people have racism. I think there is a large percentage of white people, probably more than 50% of all white people, that when black people aren't around or saying bad things about black people, and I think the- More than 50%?
Starting point is 00:16:26 I think the inverse of that is true, too. I think more than half- That's crazy. Listen, I think more than half of black people probably feel some type of way about white people. I wouldn't say, and I wouldn't say that all black people will want white people off the earth, but I would say 100% of black people
Starting point is 00:16:43 will want white people to stop making black people feel inferior. What percentage of white people do you really think are doing that to black people in any significant way? I would say a pretty low percentage, right? I wouldn't say that because I have no idea, but if I were just to think, and you know what I'm saying, just from what I was taught, from elementary school to high school,
Starting point is 00:17:04 I would think the majority of white people feel like we're inferior. I have no study, yeah. Majority. I feel like you guys are a little cynical over on this other couch over. T. rel. Do you talk shit about white people when there's no, when there's no. Yes. But, AD, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:19 But in it about white people. We need to separate jokes and like your actual opinions because I don't think you're actually like shitting on white people, right? I don't think about, I don't think about white people when I'm doing my thing. I don't care. Right. And you have tons of white friends. You bring a random white guys through.
Starting point is 00:17:34 And it's like, oh, I got white family. I met him at an event one time and we got a long good. we're friends. It's like I don't believe that any of you guys have like real inherent bias besides Lush who's obviously. If anything I'm I'm telling a homie. I'm like I'm telling a homie. Lush has been captured by the woke mind virus. Look, I've literally been this way for ever. If you think that straw hat man, no way. I have no way. There's no way that the past 10 years of political progress has not changed your mind. Not even in the slightest. Lush. There's like you thinking that 50% of
Starting point is 00:18:04 white people have more than 50% of white people have negative attitudes towards black when I know that that is not your lived experience. This reminds me a flaco when he's talking about everybody's smoking the maza in the hood. It's like the percentage of white people that you have been around to have anti-black attitudes, I'm going to guess is like way less than 10%. I feel like 50% of this podcast has negative thoughts about black people. Shit. What?
Starting point is 00:18:27 I'm saying 50% of the white people in this podcast probably have negative thoughts about black people. So you're saying me? He's the only person. See, but this is this is the lush stuff. thing of like, oh, I'm gonna like impress all the black people by showing that I'm, I'm not like them. No, no, look. I'm the other kind of white guy. I hope everybody at home
Starting point is 00:18:46 sees what's happening here. I don't really think that about you, honestly, but I do believe that there's a large percentage of and like I said, this isn't mutually exclusive to just white people. I feel like every single race has their biases against other races. Not to the extent
Starting point is 00:19:02 that he's saying, I don't believe that 50% of white people think black people don't have a right to exist or whatever, but I do think more than 50% of white people talk shit about black people and have their thoughts about them. I would just be timid. I'm just always timid around, you know, white people or other race because I'm like, oh, they probably don't fuck me when they don't like me just because of what history is telling me.
Starting point is 00:19:25 That's what the media has, just because of what history is telling me. So I'm kind of timid. This is what I'm saying. I know that the percentage of white people you've been around in your life that talk shit about black people has to be less than 5%. So your opinion of this is entirely. based on what you've seen in the media, and I feel like the media has lied to you.
Starting point is 00:19:42 No, no, well, check this out. I'm from one of the most diverse cities in America, in the world, and I'm from a very liberal place. I've spent my life in Los Angeles and the Bay Area. My parents are from New York. You're from New Hampshire, which I'm pretty sure is a liberal state as well. Like, so most... Purple.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Right, but it's predominantly, you guys vote left. No. No? You're all over the place. You're in the middle? Right? We go back and forth, yeah. regardless.
Starting point is 00:20:10 It was liberal when I was a kid. But you're near Boston, which is a liberal-ass city. True. And that's like- But I'm also in New Hampshire, which if you were to ask any average person, you want to drive up into northern New Hampshire? Oh, you're going to... I grew up one mile away from a gun store that has racist cartoons of Obama in the windows.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Jesus Christ. Okay. That low-key sort of substantiates my theory a little bit, does it not? That there are some white people? My point is just that you, I think, are massively over-inflating the percentage of white people that have anti-black attitudes, and it's not based on your lived experience. It's based on something that you're assuming based on what the media is kind of putting out there. Because I don't think that you've met that many racist white people. It's like this.
Starting point is 00:20:49 I'm basing it off of... He probably got some of his family. I'm based, I definitely do. He's a true. Of course he does. Yeah. No, like, it's really the Italian side of my family. There's a lot of racist Italian people. Like when you go, um, all you have to do is drive an hour outside of LA, once you hit Kern County, you see Confederate flags. Right outside of the most liberal city in the entire country, you see Confederate flags. You experience... Heritage not hate. That's what they would tell you.
Starting point is 00:21:20 So what's the percentages of, you know, white people that you've experienced in your life, you feel me, that have been racist? Less than 1%. Less than 1%. No, but like single digits, for sure. single digits. You went to school predominantly white. But look at your assumption of what our upbringing is
Starting point is 00:21:39 versus what we tell you our upbringing is. I'm looking at history. You're teaching me the history. A white man. I can remember a handful. I've never written a history book. I can count like the number of times I've heard blatantly racist stuff like on one hand. You've probably heard it all day growing up.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Hell no. But see, that's what you assume. It's absolutely not the case. Yeah, but. So Hasbrook Town is a little more progressive. People in Compton assume, yes. What if you went to school in Alabama? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I've only been there from. South Carolina. You're neglecting the entire southern and Midwestern United States. Where I haven't lived and I don't have an ability to judge it. No, no. And I'm not holding that to you, but I'm just saying my opinion on this is based on that. And that's the majority of this country. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:24 No. The majority of this country. The South is not the majority of the country. The South and the Midwest is more than the country. 50% of the population of this country. We have had Democratic presidents for the vast majority of U and I's life. Correct, with the exception of
Starting point is 00:22:38 Bush, Bush Jr., Reagan, and Trump. I know. I'm just saying that it's like... It's about half and half. If the majority of America was racist, they would probably be voting for the racist presidents, or like at least who the media has been telling us has been racist for all these years, right? But that's also...
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yeah, they're voting for Trump. But that's also due to the electoral college system. One term. That's due to the electoral college system. though. You gotta keep that in mind too. That's not the overall population. That's due to the fact that there's... But the majority of people in this country vote for Democrats. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Because the majority... And keep in mind that the Republicans have just been smeared as being the party of racism for our entire life. That's true. And the vast majority of Americans don't vote for the vote. There's a lot of racist Democrats, too, though. Democrat doesn't mean you're not racist. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:25 If you're racist and you're voting for the Democrats, there's racist people everywhere. You need to explore what you're doing because Democrats are clear. They're the party of anti-racism. Well, they're the party that panders to like, like, the way you describe me is like typical Democrats. Cuck one. That whole, that whole image that you have, that's like how I look at Democrats in general and why I don't really like identifying. Even though I am a registered Democrat, I don't identify with that political party that much anymore because they're really not about action.
Starting point is 00:23:58 they're just about fucking I don't identify with the worst of the Democratic Party but at the end of the day I've been around you know white people you know that I always ask
Starting point is 00:24:09 him hey have you ever said some racial shit are you just I always ask I'm not even going to lie to you you know I'm saying it was one young lady that I asked that you you know you know this young lady
Starting point is 00:24:19 I asked like to you know have you ever you know been around a lot of black people and you know she said my parents don't really care about black people The only thing they said, it was like, make sure you don't marry a black person.
Starting point is 00:24:30 That's the only thing they said. That's kind of, it's a little racist, no? That's wild. That's a little racist. I think for the most part, though. That's racist is, fine. Yeah, that's extreme racist. But I'm sitting around your family, though.
Starting point is 00:24:41 So after she told me this, I said, oh, they hate me. But I remember having that conversation with my girl being like, so do they care that I'm white? Like, is being white a thing? And she's like, no. Like, white seems fine. If you was black, I was like, what if I was black? She's like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I'm not really sure. You know, like, that definitely might have got a slightly different reaction. And that's in L.A. You know what I mean? Wow. They're in their own world. That's one thing that blows my mind with her is just how to her, like, she's not from, like, she'll say she's from L.A., but she's not from, like, she's not interested in whatever
Starting point is 00:25:11 the fuck's going on in Compton or whatever. Like, that's just a million miles away mentally to her, you know? How would you feel 18 years from now Parker brings home a black guy? I would be happy for her. From Compton. I'd say, what's that you claim? What are you from, Cah? What if he's trying to move in?
Starting point is 00:25:32 He doesn't even ask. He just moves in. He just moved in. He just hit Barkeroom. Like, what's the deal? Hey, what's up? You're cooking them eggs in the mind? Hey, fuck with me some of them eggs in that avocado you be doing every morning.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Give me some of them eggs. He looks like Melvin. Hey, no, n'on has him about avocado. Let me try the avocado toast, sir. Yeah. Give me some of that avocado toast. I ain't, I didn't ever had avocado toast until Adam's like, you have to try it. That's good.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Why are you, though? No, because the first time I interviewed Duno, I got him. I had postmates bring the avocado toast, and it arrived by the end of the interview. Because I don't like avocado. People say, well, not avocado toast is different. No, I was the most... Now that I be thinking about it, I'd be doing and saying some of the most racist shit, ever. Like, I was caught up.
Starting point is 00:26:12 That's for white people, you fucking get your fucking white ass out of here. Well, you plainly said on here that you didn't used to like white people. You just to beat them up. You used to just go beat them up. Randomly in the streets. You parted that 50% to you real. I just thought they just thought they just. like me, but avocado toast is really good, though.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Fire. It's fire. I haven't going to lie. But why did it take white people to think this up? Like if avocado's better around, bread been around, why did white people have to be like, oh, we have this brilliant fucking idea. We're going to smear it real thin. Some shit that don't involve seasoning and just like, like, you know, let's prepare.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Avocado toast has mad season and mad different flavors on there. Bro, I've had creative ass avocado toast with cheese and different vegetables and peppers and prosciutto. Oh, man. Yeah. But at a certain point, you're like, well, this is. not Mexican food by any stretch of the imagination. But we borrowed one ingredient that they typically are associated with.
Starting point is 00:27:02 It's California cuisine, right? There you go. I never order it, but I do like it. It's actually fire. It's not that far from having, like, buttered bread. I love butter bread. Oh, it's the best. With some of jelly on here, strawberry jelly.
Starting point is 00:27:14 You go butter and jelly? On the bagel? That's why your ass fat down. Exactly. He was butter and jelly. Butter and jelly on there? Oh, man. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:27:24 On the bagel. What you want to say less? No, A.D. The same question that y'all asked Adam. If your daughter one day when she's older brings a white home, white dude home, what do you say? You don't give a fuck? Hey, man, come on. Come on, white nigga. You part of the family. All right. Come on, white guy. Hey, hey, random white guy? Or like, Trayway 6K?
Starting point is 00:27:48 I don't have, listen, I don't have a racing bone in my body for nobody. You feel me? Hey, like, okay, so he's too old, but like a younger trayway 6K or an average white guy? No, no, no, no. Oh, okay. I'm about to say, what the guy? Because I feel like you would have a way more adverse reaction to her bringing home a street dude. I mean, honestly, with her infatuation with a young boy right now, I want to buy guns.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I'm like, uh. She want to buy guns at 13. I mean, you know, like, had that for her party and shit like that. We're not going down the right. That's right right path. You showed me a homework assignment that she did when she was like a left. that was like, I like my daddy's songs. My favorite song is Crip.
Starting point is 00:28:27 That was on Roblox. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. But I'll be a hypocrite if, you know. Hippercip. Hippercip. Newtale. I'll be a hypocrite if, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:38 my daughter knows certain things, aspects of my life, and she brings home somebody just like me and I don't accept them. I can say, hey, you know, get for the best, but hey. I do feel like my whiteness is really shown, though, because I would be perfectly happy to bring my kids to, like, a BMX event. or a skateboard contest or something.
Starting point is 00:28:55 What about a hood day? No. No, no, no. Would you bring her to a Grito concert? Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Like, I would bring her to a Grito concert, let her be around everybody, but in, like, a controlled environment. Because the only thing I think of, like, a hood day is, like,
Starting point is 00:29:06 it typically happens, like, out on the street where, like, shit could happen, right? Yeah, park. It was like, that's a little too much variance of, like, different things that could happen in that environment. So, Lush, your future children bring back home a black guy. How are you feeling? Is it a, is my, do I have a son or a daughter? Is it a little now that's the most important part?
Starting point is 00:29:27 Damn, because, you know, now that I'm thinking about it, my kids are just all around white people right now. And I have to think about that shit, too, like the other day. I'm like, damn, they don't, they're not really playing with no black kids right now. Like, dude, should I worry about that or should I give a fuck? Like, should they, like, be experiencing some little culture? Or should they get that from their cousins and friends and, you know, family, like that black side. Like, because right now, school is predominantly white.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I think they got the best of both worlds. It's like 99%. Is there like a black kids club? Like a black children's group? That is like, that's kind of racist. But they probably exist, right? In the kindergarten? Yeah, here's the black kids school club here.
Starting point is 00:30:09 If it doesn't exist, you should start it. Where it's like, okay, we live in a white neighborhood. But there's a handful of black people. So we're going to start a little club, get together and let them. Not a school, but they can like interact with each other. I feel like that kind of shit does exist, right? 100%. Once you reach middle school or high school, there's a black students union and like,
Starting point is 00:30:27 or like Latino students. Like that's like pretty common in schools. I don't know. I was in high school. It was probably two white people there. It wasn't no club for them. There was white John and somebody else. It's not a regular white guy, right?
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah, it's like literally like two white people. Bro, I took my son in school and I'm like, where are you at? And he's like, this is my homie right here. I ain't going to say his name. Nigan named Tom. And I looked over, bro had, bro look like a fucking surfer. I'm like, he looked straight off like he was off TV, blonde. It was blowing in the wind and shit.
Starting point is 00:30:55 I'm like, what the fuck? That's your holy. You got to bring him to figure out, both of them. That's crazy. You're walking the house. What's up, Gruf? I'm transitioning now. I really, I love it because I'm like, damn.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Because, you know, I always thought like, damn, what if they invite me to their birthday parties? Like, will they judge me? You know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't white. My kid black, you feel me? Like, and I'm from the going there and hat to the back. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:31:17 Like, coming there all black tattoos and shit all on my face and hand. Like, are they going to judge me? Like, that's the shit. I'll be thinking about it. I'll be worried about it. From my perspective, my parents or like the average polite upper class white person that I could think of would probably be, go way more out of their way to make sure they were nice to you than anybody else.
Starting point is 00:31:38 For sure. When I'm having like a house party or whatever because it's in everybody's head that even if like you were doing something that they didn't appreciate or something kind of weird if you were a Hoover stomping around during the happy birthday song. I guarantee you my mom. You would have to do something so offensive or so fucked up for my mom to be like, well, that T. rel, he's a bit of an asshole, huh? Whereas, if you look like Scott Adams, it would not take much for my mom to be like,
Starting point is 00:32:06 that guy's a- How do you think Adam's a feel if his daughter came with a black guy? She for sure is. She for sure is. I feel like he really could use some time around actual black people, because when I'm watching them give this speech, I'm just like, bro, like, that's not really what real life is like. This fool's wife got fucked by King Crock or some shit. Well, his wife did just leave him. I actually just found out about this.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I hope it's a black girl. Yeah, hope is a black dude. Well, I don't know if it was for a guy, but it was a, he had like a younger wife, not like super young, like maybe mid-20s. She had like a couple million Instagram followers, terrible engagement. The likes were completely off base. I don't know what the fuck's going on there, but apparently she just left him. And Dilbert has hit the road.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Fuck Dilbert. Dilbert was a great comic strip. I'm not going to lie. Dilbert K. I did appreciate that when I was a kid. Dilbert was pretty fucking funny. Kielberg. The engagement on Instagram is pretty shitty.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Especially for Heather, too, right now. Like, for above us, we really shadow ban as far as, like, her, like, the business. I'm like, damn, this shit is whack. But why? She has, like, pretty wholesome content for the most part, right? Yeah, that's what I'm saying, too. Like, she's been in that hole.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Hell yeah, right now you can be posting. Like, so, I mean, TikTok really right now is like, It's it. We don't even really got to have a lot of followers. It's just like post the content. It's getting out there. Like people reaching out from TikTok rather than reaching out from coming from Instagram. But when you're using TikTok, it's just you feel like you're playing the lottery.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Because everything you post, like it could get a million views or you get 2,000 views. I don't know. It's not even a view. It's just how much these followers you're getting, you feel I mean? Like the engagement is there. As long as you post people seeing that shit. But see that, okay, that's the weird thing that I've noticed. And I hate talking about this inside baseball TikTok engagement.
Starting point is 00:33:52 stuff. But the plug talk page, very specific and centered around one thing, even though it's sex type stuff or whatever, but it's like everything we post is either me and Lena or me and Lenna interviewing somebody or me and Lena interviewing, you know, like whatever. It's just, it's always pretty much the same thing. So our engagement is super consistent in comparison. Whereas like on my page, it's like post a bike riding clip, I post a family clip, I post a workout clip, I post a condomac trick, like a random rapper interview. It's just like, I think that's probably pretty bad for your long-term engagement. I know about, yeah, I've seen that too.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Like everybody who does the same shit every day, their engagement is crazy. People go back to their page to see that specific thing. Like the guy who do the food critic guy, what's that black guy? Oh, that black guy, he killing it. Yeah, he killing it. Keith, his name is Keith. He just does the food critic shit.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Look at my pops. Rated one to 10, man. That's it. He's booming. Pops going up on. I've got some millions on fucking TikTok. Oh, yeah. It's going crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Financial shit. So here's something that I want to say now that we've addressed racism. Lush, how's your mental state now that you got wrecked by the Chilupa Lady and the editor in the same week? Let's rank the disc tracks. Let me rank the disc tracks. Trevor is the goat. Teapot for life.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Teapot for life. Hardest up north drill rapper I ever heard. Okay. The worst disc track against me by far, almighty. suspect. It wasn't even a disc track. But I think in his head, that was the plan. It was like, I'm not even going to diss. I'm going to just spit a hard verse. Let him know how good I am. Excuse me? You know? I don't know. That was amazing. I thought that that was kind of like the direction he took. Yeah, that's it. Because it wasn't specific. The verse was hard. The verse was hard. The verse was hard.
Starting point is 00:35:42 But just based on not, it's like if I have, if the assignment is to write, to write an essay on William Shakespeare and I write a great essay about Christopher Columbus, you get a fucking F. It doesn't matter. Like, you didn't do it. I agree with that. You didn't do it. So Almighty Suspect, great verse.
Starting point is 00:36:07 He wrapped good. I'm glad that I could inspire it out of him. He's in last place. But he has this like a version to anything hip hop-y or battle-wrappy where it's like, no, I won't rap just like sitting in this room. I'm not going to just rap freestyle off the top of my head. Like he does his verse. He doesn't want to make it a diss. I think he like grew up in such a hip-hop-ass environment that he has like decided that he needs to reject it.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Which is a shame because he actually has talent for that and will actually have so much more of a shelf life. Because when he's fucking 34 years old and still talking about, on the gang, that shit's not going to, that shit's not going to, that's, That's just not going to work. You know what I mean? But if he's that age and he's really flexing that lyrical muscle, which he has, and he's going to have a much more long-lasting, sustainable career. And dumbing down your skill set only works for a while. Like, that's just cute when you're a teenager.
Starting point is 00:37:00 But once you're in your 20s, like, come on. Sometimes you've got to dump down your skill set and be artistic out here because it's all about the vibe right now. People are not trying to listen to the lyrical, miracle shit no more. So sometimes you do have to dumb down. You just have to put that out there. If you are, I mean, but if you are a lyrical miracle doing a whole little shit, you're not going to be as big as all the rest of these months.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Not necessarily true, because TDE didn't took the route. Yeah, like, they did. But they're TDE's not lyrical miracle. Yes, they are. They started off lyrical miracle. What? Right now, they're the most artistic artists right now with beautiful music hits. To get them to that plateau, right.
Starting point is 00:37:37 The No Sleep to New York's with Kendrick and J. Rock when they was dropping them mixtapes and they was at a time and you got to grow with the time. But they're still great lyricists. They might be great lyricists, but when people talk about Kendrick these days, they're not talking about the fact that he's an elite rapper. They're talking about the fact that he makes beautiful music, right? And I feel like that's pretty consistent amongst rap. Like, if you rap, the better you rap, the older you seem.
Starting point is 00:38:00 When I saw AD spitting that fucking verse, he killed it. He went crazy. I thought he was 45. Because it's just the hard of you rap, the older you seem. I don't know what it is. Yeah, it's true, though. It's just something about it. You know what?
Starting point is 00:38:14 It's all ebbs and flows. I've seen lyricism go in and out of popularity throughout hip-hop culture so many times over the years. At the end of the day, it's part of the skill set that defines your ability as an artist, so it'll never fully be gone. Regardless, I'd like seeing Almighty in that bag. However, worse diss because there wasn't a disc.
Starting point is 00:38:34 But you know what? As an artist, I feel like you, at some point in your career, you do have to show that versatility that you can be that rapper, you feel me? And then you move on and then you start growing because when you talk about top fives and top tens, who's the most lyrical and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You're going to put Kendrick and Jay Cole in there every time.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Every time. Because they started their career off like that to let things know. Like, look, check this out. Don't try to fuck with me, you feel me, because it can get crazy. But I'm going to go over here, you feel me? But at some point in your career, you do have to do that to gain that respect. Even Big Sean. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Sean too. But also like if you look at um, if you look at all the different tracks that these fools made, AD was the best one because he actually got in his lyrical bag to me. And that's what you're supposed to do when you're talking about disc tracks. That was the hardest one. Trevor was like the most entertaining. That shit was hell of funny. He had like, he made it fun. Maybe the most listenable. Very listenable. Very smooth. Very listenable. Which is not what I expected from a non-wrapper. Lupe's was home. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:39:43 He just La Croyd himself. Can we get some towels? At least it's green on green. Yeah, I know. That shit looked crazy. Damn. He came in in this fresh new drip that his homie gave him or something. No, that's actually my second time wearing it.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I just tried to get it off again. Oh. I stay doing that. Yeah, you got a rinse and repeat. Yeah. I'm with the repeat and shit. Lecroy gets out stains, I'm pretty sure. Continue?
Starting point is 00:40:09 I'm pretty good cleaning up, too. but um yeah like dadding it up oh that shit look crazy uh where were no the the the AD joint was cool Trevor's was fire
Starting point is 00:40:24 um the um Lupe did really well I was I was impressed um icon did his thing it was short to the point he had a video though
Starting point is 00:40:36 he had a video that shit was tight um I think it's dope I like all the creativity that came out of this shit. I can't got his video post on a no different channel. He got like 130K right now. So, you know, he's probably fielding label offers right now.
Starting point is 00:40:49 They're trying to get him to sign and shit. And I want to, because people was telling me like, you said, oh, Lush, can't say this about your kid. And you went and said this. So you can say this. I want to be clear. I said if disaster or anybody hopped out saying some disrespectful shit about me or my family, I can't help who feels a certain type of way of.
Starting point is 00:41:11 He's probably gonna get your ass whooped. But shout out of my guy, this ass, so that's my home. Diz wouldn't do that, though. No, no, me and Diz is like this. That's my guy. I already talked to him. Amongst friends dissing each other's children seems kind of unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Yeah, that's wild shit. I'm just saying, as far as Lush, like, I think, like, I really, like, went for the juggler. Could have got crazier. I think I could. I went for the juggler. I could say something. I could disaster.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I could disaster in a funny way. I'll beat your ass. But this is not a rap battle. But, I mean, even what Lush said about Kiki, I told him, I was like, listen, bro, Kiki ain't gonna take this shit lightly. I didn't say anything that crazy about it. This nigga hit up Kiki and said, I shouted you out in the song. I did.
Starting point is 00:41:53 It's the dumbest shit ever. That's the dumbest shit ever. I shotted you out in a fucking song. And then it's a diss. It wasn't a diss. It definitely was a dis. It was an AD diss. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:04 He had a pod, but AD didn't even go there. Oh, you said something else, too. I mean, that's something new interpretation. Is it? But that was crazy because I was like, listen, and even Kiki, Kiki was like, the only thing he can really say about you was something about me, fuck him. I've been thinking about dropping my track for the past few days, but... You got one against us?
Starting point is 00:42:28 I got a song that I've been cooking up in my brain and I have a collaborator that I know that wants to work on it with me. A ghost writer. No. No, no, no, no, no. The ghost rapper. 22 got bars. 202 got bars.
Starting point is 00:42:39 It's his own bars. 22 can write. Tony took a rat. Now, would I perhaps want to have a consultant in the building at the time so that we could work together, for sure. But all my bars come from right here. Anyway, I don't know, though. It's like it kind of feels like maybe the era is over or is the era still going. So you disillush?
Starting point is 00:42:57 Every week is different. I didn't write any of it yet. I just have all these bars stored in my head. Give us one right now. I think dishing lush should be canceled. There's too much now. Everybody should be dissing each other now. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Just go random. No, I wasn't going to make a whole. whole lustous song. Yeah, just go random. Anybody diss me? I'm going to try to make you cry. I will give all this right now and all the credit right now to Lush. Lush's taking this shit on by 10 motherfuckers by itself. So he won. Let's give it up. Let's go rap and do something else. But do you feel like a smack shit was hard too, by the way?
Starting point is 00:43:32 When you look at the fans and the reaction, do you feel like they're still as interested in the rap stuff as they were like a week or two ago? Because that's what I wonder is like Are they still engaged with this? I think they're engaged in the possibility of there being more rap content. I think the disc track thing needs to be, like, I don't think it's over at No Jumper, but it can't just, like, I think we can't just play it out.
Starting point is 00:43:57 It has to be when the time is right, if there's some genuine lyrical animosity that needs to get off. I think they like fucking drama, and this is like some new kind of B format. That was super fun. We were talking about this the other day because we're talking about doing ciphers
Starting point is 00:44:11 and all that kind of stuff so we maybe have a more controlled format for us having like the host rap or whoever different people come in and rap and everything like that. And I was talking about the on the radar freestyles that they do in New York and they have all the lit drill rappers
Starting point is 00:44:26 and everything and I'm not 100% sure but from what I've seen they don't diss their ops in those songs and I was thinking that's gonna have to be like a rule, right? Like if we're gonna be doing like no jumper cyphers, I can't have people just be straight trashing their fucking enemies on this platform, right? I'm dissing everybody.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Yeah, you don't care, but I feel like it's just, it's gonna get bad. I mean, if you go in a booth, you never diss anybody. Diss him. Yeah, him, a non-affiliate. He asked for it. Fools-do. Who else is a, who's an affiliate here,
Starting point is 00:44:54 other than T-Rill and smack? That's what I'm saying, though, like, if you, if you go, if we do a cipher and you say, hey, first off, fuck the bloods, okay, no, cut, cut, cut, cut, I'm just saying, if you did, we can't do it. He don't rap like that. Oh, you're talking about, like,
Starting point is 00:45:07 people outside of the company. I was talking about people in the company. Jada Kiss went on, I think, no, Beanie Siegel went on, I think, it was the basement, I think, and went and dissed Jada Kiss. That was some of the best disses of all times. That shit is hell hard. That shit is going back and forth. He was crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:27 That shit was so sick. They were dissing other famous rappers. So if you get on the track and you say, hey, fuck Joe Moses. That's my homie. I know, but I'm saying that would be acceptable because that's just one person. I feel like the gang dissing stuff is what we got to avoid. I was talking about like throughout no jumper and everybody get a clip. Yeah, but that's over.
Starting point is 00:45:47 There's nobody like, nobody you're going to diss in here that is going to be that big a deal. I'm just worried about once we really start getting into the rapping thing. Oh, because like think about it, if we do a cipher and it's like, oh, we're going to get Babystone gorillas and so and so on, so and so. You would think those motherfuckers aren't going to want to use this platform to say some shit? They ain't going to say no wild shit like that. Yeah. If we tell them not to.
Starting point is 00:46:09 This is for your career. So what? The best thing you can do for your career is to discerops. Honestly, I agree with that. Not on this platform. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a big platform. You're not going to get on BET and say,
Starting point is 00:46:18 you know, fuck, such, this, such. But they might not know who the fuck you're smoking on. I agree. On BET, no. I agree. Somebody might get it off, though. If there was, if there winds up being some, like, real life altercation that happens as a result of something that was said in a no
Starting point is 00:46:34 jump or cipher, that would be hell of unfortunate. Yeah, whereas if they put it in their own. I mean, honestly, though, if it's not live anyway, just take that shit out. But we could also try to urge them not to do it in the first place. Or bleep that motherfucker. Don't disdops in here, man. No, don't do that. But come rap, though, fuck with it.
Starting point is 00:46:52 But that's like, ain't nobody going to LA leakers doing that shit, nigger? Nobody. They probably tell them, too, don't you think? Have y'all seen? I think it would just be common sense, bitch, that don't do that shit. But it's not common sense because people... People are so incentivized to do it. True.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Like, the truth is, like, I heard access the other. day, it's a good point. Young boy put out an album and sold like 35K. If he had put out an album in which like he had multiple like crazy dirt this is, shit would have done 100, no problem. It's just the reality is like the more gruesome the content you put out there, the more the fans are going to be able to turn away. But that's what everything though, like if we got some beef that happened on this shit right now, the views are going to be skyrocketing and people they just, they just want that fucking drama.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Yeah, they want the drama for show. And if you just thrive off a fucking drama, all day, eventually somebody gonna get your ass. Well, it's kind of like, you know, what just happened this weekend with Smack, you know what I mean? Yeah. Same type of shit. Like, would that pot have gotten nearly as much attention if it wasn't for that happening?
Starting point is 00:47:53 No, but before we get into that, you know what I'm saying? We definitely have a big announcement. Oh, yeah. For Fig Unity Monday. Let's go. No, nigga, we can tell them now because they're going to see this at this time. Oh, yeah. So we have a big announcement.
Starting point is 00:48:03 I'm pretty sure you're going to see it already, you know what I'm saying? Don't worry about nothing. Make sure you get your tickets. You feel me? We're doing a fucking L-ray. Yes, sir. Get your tickets, buy your tickets, man. June.
Starting point is 00:48:13 You know what I mean? Yes, sir. June, what is it? June 22nd. May 22nd. I said June. Get your tickets, man. Purchase them right now.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Don't worry about nothing. But yeah, let's get it to Smack. I'm just glad it's a live show. No, it's June 22nd. Yeah, a nigga said, May. I thought he had a new streaming deal. I'm just glad it's a live show. I don't know where they came.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I don't know where. I saw people debating that. I don't know why people were saying T. T.rell and Smacker going to caffeine. Like, no one never said that shit. Well, he asked me to talk to them, right? Well, he asked me to talk to them.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Yeah, I talked to him, but ain't nobody offering me or called me or anything like that, yeah, so I ain't even... Hey, man, and at the end of the day, if the homie want to get his chili, let him get his chili, man. You know what I'm saying? What's the name? Diplo talk about... They was like, listen, why would you take $110 million
Starting point is 00:48:56 to get your catalog? I just thought Diplo sold this catalog. Yeah, but that's what I'm talking about. They was asking him. He was like, I don't want to wait 20 years to get that for my shit. He wanted the money right now and do his thing. So if, you know, eventually the time is going to come, T-Rail is going to sign it somebody. Let him get his chilly, man.
Starting point is 00:49:11 He got a family to support, bro. Don't sign that. When artists do things like that, is that the other- You don't think of-you-on-things at all? Is that signing away your future records as well, or is it just your pre-existing catalog? Pre-existing, typically, I think. I know with my deal, I own my YouTube, I own my shit. I'm cool.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I give my two days. They keep that content. I can still chop it up, put it on my YouTube. Nobody owns my shit, you know what I'm saying? intellectual property is yours. I'll put it in perspective for you. I was just reading this crazy. Shout to caffeine.
Starting point is 00:49:40 I love it. Crazy-ass article. Shout out bang energy. There's a crazy article about Spotify and basically how they've spent so much money over the past few years for getting exclusive deals with all these different podcasters and everything. And in large part,
Starting point is 00:49:55 it would appear that they're not reissuing a lot of those deals and that a lot of these deals don't seem like they're working out. Like, we are in a bubble in which the value of a podcast, is basically being inflated by the fact that there are giant tech corporations that want to build businesses off of latching on to, you know, content creators. And that's why when you see somebody like the caller daddy girl is getting $60 million for a podcast deal or whatever, it's like, are they going to make Spotify $60 million? No, most likely they are not going to.
Starting point is 00:50:26 But in the short term, Spotify can basically like carve out a big chunk of the podcast market by signing the biggest people that they can by getting a, Joe Rogan or academics or whatever. And best of luck to all them. But in the long run, I think you're going to see the price of a lot of those deals, like, really coming down because it's like the same way during the SoundCloud era, you are seeing random fucking wannabe kids with a face tattoo getting $3 million to sign. I know people who got $3 million from a record label to sign,
Starting point is 00:50:55 and they never put out a popular song. They never put out anything that made any money ever. But if you can get $3 million for that, so a W. No, for sure. But in the long run, if you really believe in your talents, you probably want to stay independent. But, you know, in their defense podcast, has been out of a very long time. And everybody's not being reached out to get that $60 million deal. And call her and call me daddy, whatever the hell.
Starting point is 00:51:19 She's really doing her thing. She's bringing on some really exclusive guests. And I'm pretty sure she is going to make that money back. I mean, they definitely, they have all ears on Spotify right now. Apple Music and Spotify. So they have some idea to where they're going to make this money back. They're not just issuing $60 million. But the thing is, it's not her problem to make the money back.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Yeah. And for Spotify, that's a fucking, that amount of money doesn't really matter in the long run because they are, like previously, podcasting was just the Apple podcast app. Spotify has a problem. Playing music on their service doesn't make that much money. And the vast majority of the money goes to the artists and the labels. So even if the rates per stream for me,
Starting point is 00:52:02 music go way up, the vast majority of the increase is going to go to the artists and the label. So Spotify is just dealing with this problem that their entire business based around streaming music and streaming music doesn't make that much money. So they're like, oh, we want to get into podcasting because the average podcast listeners is going to sit on the app for 45 minutes or whatever, as opposed to a music listener is going to sit on there for five minutes. And meanwhile, like if they pay Joe Rogan in academics and call her daddy, then a lot of other people like a me or whoever is going to just upload our online. audio files to there for free because we make money off the advertisements or whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:36 So that's their long-term play is like, we're going to give out a few hundred million dollars to the biggest creators we can find in hopes that everybody else will use the service for free. It's essentially for cultural capital is what they're doing. They're paying for a decent chunk of the podcast market already through this investment. My thing is, are they going to keep doing it? I don't think so. Remember when Apple Music was doing the exclusive deals for all these projects with all these different
Starting point is 00:52:59 rappers? And that just went away, right? And now you never see artists get... Same with title. Yeah, you never see artists getting up front money from title or Spotify or Apple because the marketplace has already been basically like... So basically take the money right now and run. That's exactly what Diploge just said.
Starting point is 00:53:15 I'm going to take this 110 and I'm going to get it out of here. I don't give a fuck what they're going to do in 10, 20 years or whatever their marketing plan is in 20 years. But if you get me a 50, I'm getting in a 50. So matter of fact, you might as well build your shit up and do whatever you can do right now because these deals aren't going to be available. You know what I'm saying? In five or ten years.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Like, I don't give a fuck what they're going to do in five or ten years. Taking those short-term deals, yes, get the money. But then at the same time, if it's going to decrease the ability of your business to make money in the long run, you kind of have to expect that there's going to be a future in which those kind of deals don't really exist. But in the long run, do you think you're going to make like 60 to 100 million off podcasting? You've got to be truthful to yourself too. Well, if I got offered $60 million to put no jump. on Spotify for a few years. I mean, shit, I guess at a certain point, I got to do it.
Starting point is 00:54:05 But realistically, like, they got that deal because they're fucking gigantic. I don't think that's, it's not like a realistic thing to expect for the average podcaster. And that kind of deal for them, I don't think exists in a few years either. And in a situation, too, like, I know just me dealing with the deal that I got, my fucking YouTube has not decreased at all. Actually, it's increased since I got the deal and taking those clips and putting that shit up on there. So people have it under the assumption that, oh, well, you're losing this or you're losing viewership. And I'm like, no, like, if you check the stats, like, nigger, my shit is continuing to increase when it comes down to that. And I don't have
Starting point is 00:54:43 nothing but good thing to say about that. I think everybody out there, when I seen Gillian Wallow supposedly get $100 million, that's like, oh, making this shit, we got to work harder. We got to make this shit shake. Academies getting this deal. All these black creators getting their deals and we like right at the cuffs with that shit? Like, why wouldn't you sit there? I'll give you an example of why you wouldn't. I know this like comedy podcast in New York that's run by a couple of people. I'm trying to be real vague.
Starting point is 00:55:07 But at one point they signed on for an exclusive deal with a big fucking company that's put all this money into the podcast space and it's signing people and giving them big deals. And it seemed dope when I heard about it. I'm like, oh, oh, good for them. They're getting a bunch of money or whatever. Fast forward like three years. And I now find myself sometimes having the conversations with people where they're like,
Starting point is 00:55:26 what happened to that podcast? And I'm like, yeah, they're still around. They did that deal with such and such corporation, yada, yada. And somebody told me the other day, like, yeah, like, I think they know they fucked up because they lost their audience when they went to that platform. And now they're back on YouTube and everything kind of trying to pull it back, which if you're smart about it, that won't really happen. Because, like, think about Joe Rogan, he's still putting out clips on his Joe Rogan channel on YouTube and stuff. But like some people, like if your fan base is really rabid, they will follow you. If your fan base is kind of, whatever, like you, going to that other platform might be the thing that makes you lose your own.
Starting point is 00:56:05 You should be married to any platform because as we see all these private own companies, bro, they can extra shit out. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of people that got a big Instagram following. The Instagram gone, they gone. That's what it seems like. So you should want to build a following that goes with you wherever the fuck you go and not like, oh, you're on this platform. or you're on this platform. I just seen Aiden Ross, the money he got, he went over.
Starting point is 00:56:28 That made me personally say, let me go check out KICC and see what Kicks all about. Look at them. Because you're married to the motherfather. It's owned by the gambling sponsor that he is. Oh. Look at the original. Allegedly. Look at like the original big caffeine deal.
Starting point is 00:56:40 It was U.R.L, the battle rappropea. Big deal. They still have that deal? They still have that deal. And not only that, but they have their own app, which is one of their biggest revenue streams. I think it's like $8 a month. and so all the basically they have their events streaming on the caffeine app and then it goes directly to their app and it never hits YouTube.
Starting point is 00:57:02 This is a company that never, never. That's why I will never see it. Right, but it hasn't affected their popularity in the slightest. You know what I mean? Yeah. Maybe. They're bigger than ever. If you give me 60 million and you don't decide to redo the deal, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Nope. You might though. I have 60 million. That I didn't have yesterday. But if you have a lot of momentum going with your podcast and you feel like you're taking that $60 million and then your podcast basically just takes a giant hit in terms of relevance, I guarantee you, like, the $60 million is going to feel good, but you're going to be sitting around a little bit pissed off. But business-wise, and the way I'm going to orchestrate my deal and what I want to do as far as my intellectual property and keeping my show where the fans are more, you know what I'm saying? They're more familiar with. That's what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:57:50 So it's just all about how to do that. Yes, they did. They let him put his clips onto YouTube. So it's the same thing. Two five-minute clips out of like a three-hour interview. But that's great, though. His audience took a hit from going to Spotify for sure. But it's like you're Joe Rogan, so it doesn't matter that much.
Starting point is 00:58:06 I mean, yeah, I mean, some people listen in the car anyway. You feel I mean? Spotify and Apple Music is the biggest why you're driving. Like you said, we don't listen to the radio like that anymore. We listen to Spotify, Apple Music, and whatever. I listen to the radio. I listen to Brown Bag. We do for a brown bag radio.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Oh, yeah. Now, for sure, I'm listening to the Brown Bag. You feel me? If it's not the Brown Bag, it's over with. I'm so curious about that because I don't know if I've even heard the radio in like fucking 10 years, like five years. Maybe in an Uber once in a while or something. So I, like, wonder if you're doing all, like, are you getting mad followers on Twitter from people who seem like they're just random chicks who listen to the radio? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:47 The average people, do they dropping their kids off? work, they're still listening to the radio. They're not listening to it for the music. They're listening to the personalities at the end of the day. And then there's somebody like, Duno on the radio now, let me and Vic. That would make me want to say, you know what? Let me get up in the morning and listen to them versus listening to some bullshit. And demographically, what's the
Starting point is 00:59:05 largest demographic of people that listen to Hispanic women? Hispanic women. So Duno's for show. For sure got the Latino Thickham's on. I just got that shit on in my house. Just Alexa. Hey, turn on par 106. I don't even know Alexa could do that. Really? Oh, God, I did.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I was like, Alexa, Par 106, please. She just turned that shit on and Duno came on. I said, damn, this is crazy. I'm gonna be really, I never used an Alexa. Like, I don't get how that works. You a Siri guy? You just, no. Hey, Siri.
Starting point is 00:59:35 So what? I just say, Alexa, turn the camera on. Alexa, Civil Rights Movement. She gonna tell you what that shit is going to read it out? Like the Civil Rights Movement was- You definitely got to do all that. I've never done any of that shit, bro. I bet you in your car, even in your car.
Starting point is 00:59:51 You say, hey, Mercedes, take me here. You don't got to type nothing no more. I honestly, I'm going to be real with you. Like, I don't really know how to use the heat or the air conditioning in my car. Like, I just barely started to get a grip on, like, how to make it work. So you're just getting that bitch started up and come here. Light a spliff. My girl said that to you the other day.
Starting point is 01:00:10 She goes, you smoke a spliff in your car every day on the way to work? Not every day. Oh, we skip that topic about smack. We can go back to it. Oh, yeah. Let's go right here. Let's smack them. Yeah, that was crazy. It seemed like everything was chill at the end.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Why did he start throwing money? Because I only saw, like, a short version of the clip. I didn't really understand the full context. Oh, yeah, the full context was, you know, the day before that, they pulled a prank on him, like some fort spray type shit. On smack or on the other guy? On smack. And said he stink or whatever the case may be.
Starting point is 01:00:40 He laughed it off. But it really bothered him to point to where he felt like, you know, people are trying to, you know, take it for granted, you feel me, and use them for clicks and views and a whole little shit, and, you know, smack doing this shit on no jumper and back on fit. He felt like he doing this shit at a high level right now. So he just want to talk it out and laugh and joke, you feel me,
Starting point is 01:01:01 and do that. He really don't want to do the prank shit or whatever the case may be. So he was kind of upset with that. So he said, okay, so if motherfuckers is doing this shit for clicks and views or whatever the case may be, I should be able to do whatever I want to, too, which was his idea was a very bad idea so let me just get that out to way
Starting point is 01:01:20 making it rain yeah that was a stupid idea but that was my nigga idea I mean but that's what they do you feel me they prank each other they talk shit they do that's what they do over there
Starting point is 01:01:29 and you know he decided to go over there throw money on you know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying one of the other individuals you feel me that he felt like
Starting point is 01:01:37 is fucking with him or whatever the case may be the guy who actually hit him he just caught a straight you know what I mean so he was just there why you feel he's his homie right but yeah that's tiny that's his childhood friend yeah that's his childhood friend that he just caught astray he threw some money at him and then he just reacted different
Starting point is 01:01:54 um i mean which is you you you supposed to act you're supposed to react like that in some instances but i feel like like you know just on you know when you're doing this type of shit and you know you on podcast and this type of shit you feel like like you got a you got to like hold it down like certain reactions are are you know i'm saying are like are like you know i'm you can't do that shit. Like it's not, it's, it's unacceptable when you, when you're doing this type of content, you feel me, like, you got to, you got to,
Starting point is 01:02:23 you got to kind of hold it down and hold it together. So, but they don't know that though. You feel me? Like, they just doing this shit. Feel me, they just got into this shit. They want to press record and they see everybody doing it up. You feel me? They see community. They see back on fig. You feel me? And people, like, aren't seasoned
Starting point is 01:02:39 in this shit. So those type of things will happen, you feel me? But, um, my advice is just, just pay attention to how the content and the incentives of the content are changing you and the people around you. Because it will happen without you realizing it. Bingo! And it will happen to the people around you even worse because you'll be able to see it with them. And I'm not saying that the guy who swung on him was a fucked up dude or anything.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Obviously, I don't know what the fuck happened there. But, you know, you just start to see it. How, like, you know, people who might never normally be in B for arguments or conflict, all of a sudden they get on camera and they got some of them. I'm gonna beef with every week. And I'm not gonna lie, like, I sometimes be going through it myself, like the next topic that I'm gonna try to talk about, I was thinking about it.
Starting point is 01:03:22 I'm like, oh, I could go in on that person today. And I thought about a little longer and I was like, I don't care. Why even bother making my life about that for the next couple of days, you know? But there's a lot of people, especially who aren't really thinking about how the camera is incentivizing them to while out, it happens. Bro, you just hit the nail on it, bro.
Starting point is 01:03:41 And that's like, I've literally been watching and getting disgusted by how so many people are letting this camera bring out the worst than them, you feel me? Childhood friends, family members. This shit gets sickeny, and it's really the camera is not for everybody. It really isn't, and it's plain to see, like, like, niggas now, bro? Like, everybody thinks now, oh, I can come on camera, I can be messy, I can do this now, and it's just like it's creating a big whirlwind
Starting point is 01:04:11 of just unnecessary drama and shit like that. And I hate that, like, Tiny and Smack, those are childhood friends and shit like that. If it was no shows, no cameras, them niggas probably would never get into it on no shit like that. You know what I'm saying? And I don't know. I feel like Smack now. He's to the point now, bro, people used to Smack being broke, him not having no car, him just, you know, doing his thing. But one thing I can say about Smack is that he's been the same person, whether he's getting money, some fame right now.
Starting point is 01:04:40 He ain't changed one bit. He's going to walk up to you. I come in peace. He wants to have a good-ass time. He hasn't changed at all when it comes down to the shit. And I don't know Smack a long time. Is that true? He's not getting boozy?
Starting point is 01:04:52 He ain't getting boozy. Hell, no. I saw a few comments that were kind of like acting like you might be getting into a booge. I don't know if it's true or not. He's just proud of himself now. But shout out Tiny and shout out Keem. They was over there. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:05:05 And, you know, afterwards, we all spoke. We talked on the phone right before they went on air again. You feel me and went live. But smack, let me tell you. smack will get boozee on you. He will. He will go and get, but that's okay, you feel me? You can do that when you got money in your pocket
Starting point is 01:05:24 and you're doing your thing and you just came from nothing, you feel me? You feel good about herself? That's fine, you feel me? But it's just a way, it's how you do it. It's not what you say. It's how you say it, you feel I'm me? And that's what it is sometimes. You feel me like with smack,
Starting point is 01:05:39 but nine times out of ten, he ain't fined just go be boasting it and trying to shit on you. you. Let's keep it real. He's not going to do that. Was that energy smack was given? Was that anything out of the ordinary? That was not out of ordinary. And he didn't do that shit in the malicious way at all. So he was trying to have fun. He smiled when he was sitting there doing that shit. Just doing that shit. If he's knowing him, they know he's coming piece and he's doing that on purpose. So
Starting point is 01:06:01 that's why I say that reaction, like that was like unacceptable. It makes me think about how burnt out the fucking streaming world is or the podcast world is. Because I feel like normally a clip of somebody being punched on a live stream like that would be like the most viral thing in the world and people are kind of jaded to it at this point yeah yeah i mean fucking they want to know yeah but think about think about why the almighty one went so viral that was like 20 solid punches to the face like you know i don't know that that felt a little different to people i think
Starting point is 01:06:33 do you do you all feel like essentially at the end of the day it's difficult to have friends that are in a very different financial bracket as you yeah oh yeah Hell yeah. Yeah. That's like basically what it comes down to, right? Especially if you're broke, all your homies are broke, then you get money. You kind of have to separate yourself to a degree. And don't even have to be doing what, and it's nothing to do about money.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Because everybody sitting in the room is pretty successful, you know me, and they own right. But, you know. I'm not even talking about just them. Yeah. I mean in general. No, in general. Oh, in general, yeah, for sure. People start pocket watching.
Starting point is 01:07:11 They start asking questions. They're like, fucker. How can I be involved and do this shit? Yeah, and that's the thing too. And it's sad when it comes down to our people where it's like, nigga, we gotta look out, we gotta watch out for our own people when it come down to that. If you're too flashy, if you're doing certain shit,
Starting point is 01:07:29 you don't know, like the closest people to you are plodowing you and shit like that. But that's what we come from. They also feel like, why are you flexing on me? They take it personally. You should have had this idea and did your shit and made that shit happen. Don't be mad at me because I'm out here doing my thing.
Starting point is 01:07:43 now. Yeah, you whole ass. Fuck is wrong with you, niggas, man. Niggas mad at you now. Because guess what? Before I started doing this shit, before I joined no jumper, niggas was laughing that nigga, bro. Oh, yo, music trash.
Starting point is 01:07:54 You went and did the podcast. That shit ain't going to work for you. T-Rill. All you, all you niggas doing podcasts now, now everybody went to do a fucking podcast. I was the broke. Look, I was the, fuck you niggins. Brokest niggit when I came
Starting point is 01:08:07 and joined no jumper. I came for a job. I came here for a job. That's what niggas is thinking That niggas is a podcaster now You're gonna sweep up and shit That niggas a, yep That niggas a podcaster now
Starting point is 01:08:20 That niggas a YouTuber I'm at the bottom of a barrel Like I'm a bitch But the shit is all working out And niggas favor And now, now niggas is creating YouTube Go ahead and be mad My biggest piece of it
Starting point is 01:08:35 Now you want to be down Ho-ass niggins Tiro my biggest piece of advice Is just when people that you're like friends with or whatever when you start to really be in the position that people want jobs and you start to feel like saying yes
Starting point is 01:08:47 just because they're your homies or your friends don't do it don't do it I ain't doing that shit no more let me tell you this is like I've been friends with people for like 10 years and they were addicts they had weird shit going on with their girl they're always fighting with their girl like all kinds of crazy
Starting point is 01:09:01 ass shit and it never bothered me because I never had to deal with it like oh you're a fucking cokehead but I only see you at the skate park so it don't matter you know or like oh you're you're a drunk but I only see you when we're both drunk, so it doesn't really matter. And then you hire them, and every single bad thing about their personality, all of a sudden is just staring you in the face every time you deal with this person.
Starting point is 01:09:24 And their failures are like, you can't help but correlate them with you losing money. And then this thing, too, these people will look at some comments and be like, they feel this way about me, oh, I can do this now, or these people are wrong. And it's like, listen, the people for the most part is great to give your opinion. But everybody knows that sitting on these couches knows that these fans will fucking flip-flop on you like crazy. On a daily basis.
Starting point is 01:09:53 So do not think that they're married to you in any type of way. And they all have their own opinions realistically. And they just come out of the woodward based on whatever just happened. Like if something happens that they agree with or that they seriously don't like, those are the comments you're going to see. So a lot of times when somebody is under fire,
Starting point is 01:10:10 like when Lush was getting fucking hell a couple months ago it's like, yeah, like there are people who are mad at you, but those are the only people who are commenting. Like all the people who don't give a fuck about this are just not commenting. So it might feel like 100% of people hate you,
Starting point is 01:10:23 but in reality it's just those are the ones who are talking right now. And who knows how serious they really are because a lot of them might change their opinion two days later. Easy, all the time. I feel so just, it's just so sick because I know when you get to that certain level
Starting point is 01:10:37 and you see the hate, I'm like, oh, I'm mad. You feel me? And it's like, nothing can stop me now. Bitch is over with, you feel me? Like, I'm already in too deep. Hockey, it's nothing you really can do. And all you niggas that was laughing, don't try to come film, don't bring your artists on the platform,
Starting point is 01:10:54 suck a dick. Hey, but here's the question is Joe Bunnan was on his podcast the other day with Norrie and he was talking about... That was the best one, man. Podcast is spelling. He was talking about how he really enjoys seeing other people, start up podcasts, and then fail. Go to cooking. necessarily exactly who he's talking about, but yeah, I mean, okay, it's not like I want to see anybody fail, but when you see somebody give it a shot and then they figure out that it was a lot
Starting point is 01:11:22 harder than they, like, they thought it was going to be easy and then they sort of started to figure out like, oh, this is actually really hard. That could be a good feeling because it's basically just you being proven right. I mean, if you thought you was going to be me and you come in here and then you feel me like you're talking shit about me, you feel me like you're the nigger, you buried it in me, you did it do. And then you go out there and try to do what I'm doing and you fail. Ha, bitch. Fuck you, nigga.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Every time. And your podcast, your YouTube, you bitch. Stupid-ass me. Like, but that's, you know, I'm a laugh too if it's negativity behind it. But I really, for the most part, I really got no negativity behind it. Like, I'm moving forward. You know, playing my part. Smack coming piece.
Starting point is 01:12:02 We come in peace. Like, this shit is tight. Like, anybody who starts doing content for the right reasons, of course I'm going to embrace them like somebody like Math Hoffa, like, you know, me, Vlad, whoever. We all see Mathelhoff doing this thing. We like his content. We're going to embrace it.
Starting point is 01:12:15 There are a bunch of people that I see doing content. And I'm like, this is stupid. Like, you suck. This ain't going nowhere. And yeah, when they fail, yeah, I might get a little bit of enjoyment out of it. I might not say it on the podcast like Joe Bunnan is saying right there, but I understand where he's coming from. There's also like a cycle when it comes to podcasting.
Starting point is 01:12:33 If you're somewhat of a known personality and you jump into the podcast realm, you're going to have like your initial first couple episodes are going to have a lot of viewers because people want to see you in that context they already fuck with you and then if you don't bring something to the table those viewers are going to drop real quick inevitably they're going to drop and how you deal
Starting point is 01:12:55 with that low and get about of that that's going to define if you're actually built for this game or not bath hafa that's a perfect example he out the gate people were a little bit curious about it so he started getting views and then it kind of started dwindle and then, but he thugged it out and stayed consistent, kept creating content, and boom, look at him now. So I think that people need to,
Starting point is 01:13:15 if you're not really willing to embrace all that encompasses the artistic element of being a podcaster, get the fuck out of here. I'm embracing everybody. I'm feeling. If you're doing your thing, I fuck with you. No, I'm saying, but embrace the skill set that it takes. Like what you do, the skill set that it takes to BT rel,
Starting point is 01:13:34 you don't just show up and talk shit. I can't give you me, bitch. I can't. And that's the problem. It might look like that's what we do. He showed up on Sledge lords and told me how he wanted to swap wives for the night. Yeah, so let's do it. Hello, Heather.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Oh, my God. She's going to be traumatized. Let's go, Lina. I'm going to feel bad for Heather. Yack, y'allah. I'm going to feel bad for Lina. No, that's the problem. I'm going to do some Gigi Allen.
Starting point is 01:14:01 People are looking at podcasts now. People are looking at podcasts now like it's the new get-rich schemes. Oh, nigger, they're doing it's like rapping. Oh, we can do this shit now. You feel me? And Joe Button, when he was talking about, he was talking about his rap peers that were like, you know, making fun of them for doing the podcast shit. And now they want to start a show.
Starting point is 01:14:20 He's like, they either do that, they go to cooking. And he's like, I'm happy to see you niggas fail because y'all are the same niggas that's talking. And shout out to the 22 because community clips and back on figure, this is now with Snapchat. We have a Snapchat discovery show. We both do, you feel? And that's like the basis of how I even can't. to no jumper in the first place.
Starting point is 01:14:40 You know what I'm saying? Hell of people were talking shit about Budden though. And they were like, oh, like, you couldn't make it a rap now. You're podcasting. You're a media guy now. Why is that so bottom of the barrel for motherfucker? You're a media guy. Well, it was a new.
Starting point is 01:14:53 It was unexplored terrain and they didn't realize that in a few years. Like, what do we say every week? Muffers be listening to podcasts more than they do music at this point. But that's the hilarious thing is that there was a time and it wasn't that long ago, less than 10 years ago, where Joe Button was considered a loser because he decided to start a podcast where he just talked to his friends. Whereas if Joe Button, like, think about if Joe Budden right now was still rapping and never mind, like, having to basically fall into these boring-ass tropes of like what wrapping into
Starting point is 01:15:25 your 40s actually is like. It's still just you like fucking rapping about having kilos of Coke and talking about fucking a bunch of gun bars and shit. Not that Joe Button would have done that. But the idea that that's considered admirable to just. just be like saying the same old fucking punch lines well into your 40s. To me, what Joe's doing is I would much rather enter my 40s being a guy who has a fucking talk show that talks about my life with my friends rather than having to put on
Starting point is 01:15:49 this weird braggadocious fucking persona and rap. And I like how Norie said, if you watch it, he said, man, this is his third life now when he's doing these things. And he has one of the biggest broadcasting deals in history when it comes down to doing this shit. What he was saying is that he got a separate advantage. for his audio content and then his video content on YouTube and then I guess the TV stuff as well which is like I would love to know exactly what those deals are like because I've
Starting point is 01:16:17 always been somebody who's like oh the amount of money we make off YouTube that's what we make money we make on Facebook Snapchat whatever that's that's just what we make when you get those deals it's basically just a big company saying oh we're going to give you a million dollars up front but then we're going to take all your YouTube money for X amount of time and so we recoup plus that's like a 360 deal basically yeah like I mean well it's It's exactly the same as the... Which they think that I'm in No Jumper 360 deals. Well, but it's exactly the same as the record labels.
Starting point is 01:16:42 You hear it say you 80, bro. Just give it a... That's what pun said that I'm in a 360 deal. But think about it, it's like, it's the same thing with the label. They give you money up front and then you make money and then you have to pay them bat at an exorbitant rate. It's like, I don't personally understand why the fuck anybody would want to do that when you could just make the money front.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Like, but I've been lucky enough to like actually create a business that makes sense. Whereas like, if somebody were to say, oh, you're a man. making X amount of dollars per month, but we're going to give you the equivalent of 10 times that, like, okay, but how the fuck are you supposed to be? Like, how are you making money off this deal? Because if you can make money off the deal, then why the fuck am I not doing it for myself? A lot of people, they do that with like pub deals where it's like, we're going to give you this upfront money, but we're going to own a percentage forever. And getting a pub deal to me, especially early in your career, is basically acknowledging that you have no confidence
Starting point is 01:17:31 in your own career and being able to be successful. And you'll just take this cash out early on. And sometimes people need it, man, to survive. They might need a payday loan too. A lot of artists that are focusing on pub deals are not like the ones that are going to be climbing up the charts and things like that. Oh, and I think about the soundcloth rappers that I knew back in the day who said, oh, I got $100,000 up front from my pub deal. And I remember looking at them and thinking like, you really don't believe in yourself? Like you don't think that you're going to make a shitload of money later in your career. But they were right.
Starting point is 01:18:01 They were right because they never made any fucking money. So they should be happy that they took the $100. It's easier saying and done when you're living. in poverty and your mom and everybody got bills, you got kids and shit, you can't really turn down that much money and that's why these companies, they pray on that. If you believe in yourself, turn it down.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Because you don't need that. Believe in yourself, but... This is the Ponzi scheme of the record industry from day one. Believe in yourself, but if you're living in the hood and you're trying to make that shit out, you're gonna figure that shit out later. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:18:29 It's been like that. It's been like that. It's been like that. So, speaking of towns, towns, somebody from a town named Milato decided to call me out last night. You a whole amazing transition. So for the record, the, can we pull, actually, I probably have it right here. She's from Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Yeah. I want to ask you first, who posted that? Remo. And the reason why. You can't just like me. No, but the reason why it doesn't even need to be stated who posted it is because he signed it. Like, it says his fucking name right there in the fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:19:04 They don't... They don't... No, she'll be a bitch for something that he posted that. I didn't even... I had to go watch the video. This old platform, you're responsible.
Starting point is 01:19:12 That's how people gonna look at it. Yeah, but to be fair, he did sign... Oh, wait. Oh, okay. He didn't sign his name on Twitter. He signed it on Instagram. Okay, fair enough. So the post said Lotto was on Omega
Starting point is 01:19:21 and landed with someone who didn't even know who she was. You can go to the No Jumper, Twitter or Instagram if you want to watch this, so we won't get claimed. But it's basically just her on Omega. And the guy doesn't know who she is, and she's, like, laughing and tells him what her Instagram is or whatever so you can go look her up and then she she wrote corny i interrupted
Starting point is 01:19:40 my friend's conversation with this man from india i talked about how i can't wait to visit and said let's follow each other the fuck is funny i never expected him to know who i am or anyone for that matter adam you a ho and wouldn't try a male rapper like this use a ho tomato tomato i'm gonna be real with you i have never heard lotto's music and i don't know anything about her so I never would have thought that she even knew who I was. So I was kind of taken aback by this. She's talented. She's bad.
Starting point is 01:20:10 She's fine as fun. I watched this video after I saw this post go up. Yeah, but Adam, I feel like that tweet wasn't even clowning her. I thought it was more just, it was, it's funny. She went on Omigal and the dude didn't know she was. What, everyone needs to know who she is. Well, but it is funny. But it's also, it's blatantly a TikTok that somebody just downloaded and
Starting point is 01:20:33 reposted. So I'm assuming it was already viral on TikTok to some extent and that somebody on my social media team, Remo. But I've seen this on- and posted it. I've seen this on a lot of platforms. Yeah. Oh, it's on tons of platforms. That's why it's so funny that I'm a ho. I didn't even seen this shit. It's probably the first one she's seen because they probably got a lot of reactions. But in her defense, man, she's a great rapper, you know what I'm saying? She has a hard-ass album, you know what I'm saying? I roll two, you know what I'm saying with Heather. I'll fuck with her a lot. But what I don't like what's going on with Lotto.
Starting point is 01:21:02 It's probably why she responded like this because she's just getting a lot of hate from out of nowhere. She's been getting a lot of hate and a lot of blacklash for every little thing that she does. Like the fans just be owner for every fucking little things. And she just getting, she's just getting fucking fed up. You know, just like Lotto, like her name being Lotto. See, I thought Moolotto was a cool name. Mulatto, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:25 I would have just called her Malato. Well, she was originally, she was Miss Malato. And she was on that, um, Jermaine Dupree. reality show contest and she won. She like she beat everyone and like she could clearly rap. She has all the intangible. Yeah, she has all the intangibles
Starting point is 01:21:41 that it takes to be a star and then she's beautiful. And she's fine as fuck and wound up, you know, getting the necessary augmentations to take that beauty to the next level. She got BBL. She got some stuff. Why are you worried about her surgery? I got to go look at it. I like her surgery. You know what really took it over the top?
Starting point is 01:21:57 Yeah, Scott. When she had that, when she had that disagreement with Nikki Minaz, you feel me? And her And Kodak. There's the Kodak thing too. And the Kodak thing. So she had made a comment about there being a feature on her record. And she's like one of the features was like trying to fuck and da-da-da-da-da. And she kind of was talking down.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Kodak took offense made it seem like it was about him. And then they had a little, then, you know, Kodak ain't taking no shit from nobody. Honestly, earlier I searched Lotto, no jumper. And I couldn't find anything that we'd ever posted about her on, like, YouTube. at least. So I don't know if that's part of the problem. Maybe she wants us to talk about her more. She's trying to get in the convo here.
Starting point is 01:22:37 She don't need it. I think it was the crying, laughing emoji is what upset her. I like it is acting like she's like insanely successful. She is. She is. She's one of the biggest female rappers right now. I never heard her.
Starting point is 01:22:48 I don't know. I bet you have heard her and you just didn't know. Big the stallion lot of city girls. There's up there. Never heard them. No one anything to do it. They ain't heard the big energy song. Fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:22:59 No, that's the song that I remember. I posted a ticket. talk one time of like some girl at the porn convention talking about like a big dick or something. So I remember I was thinking like, isn't there somebody who has a song about like big dick energy and I searched for it and then I hated it. So I don't think I used it. Ain't got Mariah Carey on the re-mits. Oh, Glorella's coming up.
Starting point is 01:23:16 You feel me? Then you got Nicky and Cardi who's sitting there at the biggest. I love Glorilla and Ice Spice. Shut your ass up because when Glorilla came out and she was coming out with her songs, you were fucking killing her. You were killing her voice. Find it. Find it.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Find it because you're full of shit. You're gonna be in our text messages talking about how you didn't love her voice. Me acknowledging that she has a very deep masculine voice. This is not gonna go anywhere. Has absolutely nothing to do. You really think I said that about Gloria. Find the receipts.
Starting point is 01:23:44 I would love to see that. You did have dibs on getting the interview early on. That's what I'm saying. I've been trying to interview from early on and I've been extremely transparent about the fact that I like Gloria's music from earlier. How did I drop the ball when somebody told me they were gonna get the interview and then they just did it?
Starting point is 01:23:59 How is that me dropping the ball? I wouldn't say that. What happened? I don't think you was enthusiastic about doing the interview at first. That's not true. All right. I love that you guys both have completely fake narratives here about me not liking Gloralea.
Starting point is 01:24:12 I thought that Meg had a super... Well, you could prove it, I'm sure. I thought Meg had a super deep voice to Glorella came out. But I bet I was dying to interview Gloria. Hey, one conversation. He's just over there. He thinks he could just start another conversation. Straw-Had man. Shows up late and starts his own combos in the corner.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Lush. Come on. No, I loved it, though. T-Ral fucking spazzed on Lus' this morning when he said he was going to be 15 minutes late. Yeah, that's out, though. I don't think he spazzed. You want me to read it?
Starting point is 01:24:40 Read it, please. I'm just so glad that I don't have to be the only person bringing that kind of fucking energy. Did you spas? It just sounds like to have you reading it in my voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hulish, running 10 minutes late. See you all soon.
Starting point is 01:24:55 In traffic. See you all soon. She said it two times that T-Rel said. that late shit is out. I have shit to do. Because, no, I'm just, I love that because in the past, there's been people who I got on who I got on and saying, hey, being late ain't cool. And then I got all this pushback and shit. And it's like, bro, you know that if you, what the last time I'm been learning? You've been good lately. But even, even you being 15 minutes late means that everything throughout my day has to get pushed back. And that just takes a real amount of gall to really, like,
Starting point is 01:25:26 think that you're so important that you should be able to push our entire schedules, back. I really love and appreciate T-REL for taking a stand. Being late's not cool, and I'm typically not late. I've been very on time. You were late last week. I was taking both weekends. I've been taking care of my mom. And like
Starting point is 01:25:44 it's been kind of, there's been some little complications and things like that. So yeah, this morning. Do you have a doctor's note? This morning was rough. This morning was rough. We're going to need a doctor's note. Yeah. Hopefully mom's doing fine. Yeah, and I don't mean to get on, like, obviously, the mom thing, parent thing is important. I said that.
Starting point is 01:26:00 You don't like being the principal and now T.Rill did it. You like, I ain't even got to take it. No, I just, I like that he's actually like learning what I've learned, which is like how important it is to be on time and that he's actually like standing up for it. Because that's one thing I hate on here is when people are like, oh, we're just going to be rebels. We're going to just do whatever the fuck we want. It's like, no, if the business is going to work, then we have to actually do things right and move in a organized way. Well, speaking of a doctor's note, this Thursday, motherfucker's getting their whole top row of teeth in this motherfucker. That's more of a dentist.
Starting point is 01:26:31 What about the bottom raw? That's next. So it's more work at the top? Two and a half weeks. Yeah, it's just they can't do it all at once. Oh, okay. My boy not going to look like a rock roller no more. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:42 I was thinking about you the other day when I was drawing Baby Shark. He still ain't gave us the contact, so you're going to let him do your tea first and then we can all go. It's good. It's good. You got a dentist in Turkey? I'm going to Beverly Hills to Dr. Jeffrey Klein. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:26:57 I still got the blood, but we got to go to Miami. Yeah, we're going to see what Dr. definitely Klein doing if he's doing it for the year. This don't get them horse teeth, man. Your teeth are fucked up? They're kind of like, you know, I need some abysaline. His shit is definitely not in the same galaxy as mine,
Starting point is 01:27:12 but you feel? My girl got the Invisaline and that shit, like, her teeth were all fucked up, her bottom of her teeth. They're all crooked. She wore that Invisaline for like six months. I swear to God, it's perfect now. Wow. I can't believe it. I think either Trevor
Starting point is 01:27:26 or one of the guys is going to be coming and documenting my... Oh, Trevor, the Rousaliener. Trevor the rapper. Trevor Per rapper, the rapper. He's very talented. One of the best PS PlayStation games all the time. I never played that.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Oh man. Even though it was about a rapper, it's all in their mind. I just, I could have bring myself to play it back in the day. One and two. Hey, can we talk about, uh, well, do you have any more teeth notes? Just share excitement. I just want to know what motherfucker is like, what's the next angle.
Starting point is 01:27:52 There's a lot of angles that make fun of me about. So I just want to know what we're going to do. Nika, I just don't diss nobody anymore. So you need to know the best rapper. I want to know the angle. What I, what I am. What I am. I ain't giving you no angle.
Starting point is 01:28:02 I got the craziest pen, though, in the world. Yeah, if that's to help you sleep better, my pen is crazy. Tell you, tell yourself that. So I do. My pen is absolutely crazy. So have you been able to survive, you know, like, I'm not going to say you got like an entirely negative response to the disses,
Starting point is 01:28:16 but there's been like a lot of negativity. Has it hurt your like self-image as a rapper? I got a lot of love, to be honest with you. You got a lot of hate too. To be honest, like, look at the polls. I'm second to AD. I'm totally cool with that. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:28:29 I noticed AD. screenshot of that after six minutes. Well, if you look at the full one, it changed. He dropped 1% after that. But one, I knew it. He dropped 1%. But it was essentially had both screenshots. He's like, I'm going to post this one.
Starting point is 01:28:45 I did. Yeah. I can show you my phone, too. I'm like, which one shit I do? All my streams are up. And most importantly, are you getting paid? I mean, yeah, like, you don't stream. I know, too.
Starting point is 01:29:00 well. Are you on district it? I know, I have a distribution deal. Oh, you got a distribution? He's on cocaine bot. I'm under Sony Orchard. And they pay you for the streams? Yeah, you get paid out for streams. It's nothing crazy. I mean, I have a publishing deal. I've like, but here's the thing. Here's the thing. Most importantly, I had a lot of fun
Starting point is 01:29:18 and this shit was dope and it gave me like a whole second wind. It's something that I really enjoyed doing that I didn't think I was going to get that much. Well, shit, I think you made that shit fun. It made me want to rap, even though I have I've never wanted to wrap my whole life. I sat and rode down in hours like that ever. Like I stopped everything I was doing.
Starting point is 01:29:36 I'm like, I'm like, kill this, Nickle. That's what, and that's what, like, at the end of the day, it's always been my greatest contribution to hip hop is inspiring other people in different ways. Shut the fuck up. You was cocky as a motherfucker. Inspiring. You thought that you was the greatest,
Starting point is 01:29:52 you thought you was the greatest, you was out of this galaxy, and everybody came out to what works whooping your ass. No, no, no, no, no. My pen, I wanted that, I wanted you to come fire. My pen is crazy. No one, no one's top in my pen. No one's stopping my pen.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Unless you acting like you just was like top-notch 10, 15 years ago. You were disgusting, bro. I didn't say I was top-notch. You ain't fucking a-diggering nobody. You was popping it. You're out of this galaxy of people. Hold on, hold on. Who you experienced fire?
Starting point is 01:30:23 What I didn't mean as a rapper, that was my- What, you're saying as a businessman? Just as like the moves that I made as like for... Oh, Nifty hustle moves. I mean, I wouldn't go as far as saying that's a pretty lofty comparison. But I'm saying... But I set up some of the biggest battles
Starting point is 01:30:40 in battle rap history. You have done that. I've put on a lot of the top battle rappers and battle rap history. So this is the same thing, really, because he probably put this on. This is the biggest battle rap thing ever at no jumper.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Well, no jumper is just a part. That's kind of my whole point, though. You feel? Okay. Like, it's inspired. Because in order to, to when you. That's like saying, we're the best talent show
Starting point is 01:31:01 in preschool. Lush did it. I know, Jumper, yeah. Yeah, if you- Be the best. If you, when you book a rap battle, it's not just like, hey, you wanna battle this guy, cool. There's so much that goes into it.
Starting point is 01:31:13 And you have to like, you have to be like, you have to give a little Vince Lombardi speech and inspire them and get their pen moving and things like that. There's a lot that goes into it. It's not just like, there's so many politics, there's so much different things to navigate. So yeah, that's something that I have
Starting point is 01:31:27 been doing for 10 to 15, 20 years out here is inspiring people to rap in different capacities. Who gave the best speeches? Vince Lombardi or John Madden? I think Vince Lombardi's kind of that guy, no? He's kind of that dude. I never heard of him. I know, for sure.
Starting point is 01:31:44 I heard of John Madden. You have a video game. John Madden did have a video game. There you go. RIP. We were talking about this thing on Sledge Lords where he feel like he's left out of these sports conversations because, you know, these sports conversations, you know, they grow into other things.
Starting point is 01:31:56 I'm in the same boat as 22. I don't get a fun. You don't know about sports? That is crazy, dog. You know about fucking sports. To a certain degree, you know what's going on. You know who he was a coach. Listen, to a certain degree, I know who John Moran is.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Yeah, of course. Okay, we can speak on it. He don't know anything. I know, like, I know, like, the highlights, I know the best players. I'm not deep diving into that. I don't know the third string quarterback. I don't know if you walk past me. I know, but me either.
Starting point is 01:32:23 I mean, but, you know, the biggest podcast is if they do bring up a sports reference or they start talking about sports, Adam will be left out, you feel him and he'll have to, you know, engage in the conversation and it's going to be like left field. He don't know what the fuck he's going to talk about. Which is a great. I've got to play sports.
Starting point is 01:32:40 I don't know. I have never seen nothing they do. I'm like, yeah, my homie, he played for them. I'm like, I don't know. I ain't ever seen it. Me either. But I know what his position does if you ask me. There was a week, a couple weeks ago where I went,
Starting point is 01:32:51 it was like Monday morning, had a couple different errands to do. So it's like, I know I'm going to be able to listen to at least one podcast in the car. I put on brilliant idiots. I put on the Shane Gillis podcast. A bunch of different podcasts. Everybody
Starting point is 01:33:04 talking about the Super Bowl. And I watch a Super Bowl, but I don't give a fuck about hearing people talk about it. So I ended up skipping through quite a few podcasts like that. I'm a lot of fights. I'm going to watch a Super Bowl. I'm going to watch everything. Every championship game. I'm with that. Fighting, I like. I can watch boxing in the UFC.
Starting point is 01:33:19 I usually don't. You played, I'm sure you were on some sports team as a kid. My parents made me played basketball. Well, if you really want to get into the deep-seated Adam-22 lore of why I think I never got into sports. I got glasses when I was in fourth grade. Up until then, I had no idea that I needed glasses. And when I think back to my childhood, I clearly needed glasses. Like, I was playing basketball. I was getting hit in the face, fucking my nose up with the basketball. Fucking, I remember one time I got the ball and like second grade ran to the other side of the fucking court away from everybody. Like,
Starting point is 01:33:52 My vision was so fucked up that I like, I never like developed that early hand eye coordination, I think. So I think that's why I always struggled with sports and why I basically like resented them and was like done with them by the time. I was done elementary school. Yeah, I did. I'm thinking about getting it too. That's great.
Starting point is 01:34:08 It's the best. Everybody tells me that. Did you get the LASIC eye surgery? I think about getting it. It's been like 15 years since I got it and it's still good. And you still like, you stand by it. 20-20. Damn, I got to go.
Starting point is 01:34:19 You're just, those are just style glasses? These are my style, yeah, and I mean, my, um, Bugatti's, don't worry about nothing. But yeah, I did it. I think I did it like 10 years ago. But I also just want to say one time I randomly listened to this podcast with a dude who was in like an 80s hair metal band or some shit and he, or no, it might have been a guy from Duran Duran and he said the fucking same thing about how he felt like developmentally. He had like a weird upbringing because his eyesight was so bad and he didn't know it until
Starting point is 01:34:50 later. So sometimes all the weirdness inside of me, I think it might be because I couldn't see shit. I'm in first fucking grade. People are talking about stuff. They're showing a movie. I can't see the movie. You didn't have like eye tests and stuff? Don't they like?
Starting point is 01:35:02 They definitely do that at the nurse's office. Yeah. I thought, I would think so too. But okay, to put it in perspective, when I went to get glasses for the first time when they tested my eyes, my mom thought that I was trolling the fucking the doctor because my ability to read the eye chart was so bad. So I don't know like how many years it was before that the last time I did an I chart test or whatever, but I was like, I just couldn't see sure.
Starting point is 01:35:25 So your problem with sports stems from being a handball being thrown at your head. Listen, it could have been that I was going to suck at shorts. I could have just been a person who was going to suck at sports no matter what. But what I think about it, my parents had me in sports from a very young age playing baseball and basketball, and I was always like really bad.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Oh, I was always trash. Yeah. I was like, this ain't for me. I'm gonna start rapping. I'm beating on the table. And so what was I into during that time period of my life? Fucking sitting in my room, drawing and playing video games. Because I was more in control that, my fucking vision and shit didn't matter.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Well, how are you looking at these video games? Are you all the way on the TV? I'm sitting two feet away from the screen, probably, yeah. That's crazy. Did your mom say, you're going to get square eyes, 22? Square eyes? That's what I used to hear all the time. Square eyes.
Starting point is 01:36:10 The glasses? They used to say, when you get too close to the TV, you're going to get square eyes like the TV. Oh, yeah, for sure. My mom would be like, your ass going to be blind. And I was. Because I used to be on that motherfucker like this. And then I really was blind. Then I had to get glasses.
Starting point is 01:36:25 And then I lose the glasses. And then when I went into adulthood, you feel me? Like, I didn't go get glasses myself because obviously it's my responsibility now. But when I was driving this shit, like, I'll get up on the street side. I got to be this close to that motherfucker to know if I've got to turn the left or right. So I always have to bus use and make the wrong turn to know because I had to go all the way on the street. street sign to know what I was doing. So one day I was on a freeway on a 405 and I didn't know with the exit.
Starting point is 01:36:54 And I almost crashed that motherfucker because I had to get all the way on the street sign. I was like, man, I'm going to do this LASIC shit. And I went and did that shit. When I did it, it was only like a thousand an eye. That shit took five seconds. She did the little laser thing. Boop, boop, boop, boop. She told me to go home, take a nap for an hour.
Starting point is 01:37:12 I woke up. And then I woke up. I had 20-20 vision. I ain't lying too. How many years ago was this? It was 10 years ago. So what was it like your first, like, was it difficult to adjust to being able to see anything where you kind of like thrown, like taking a bag? Well, I had contacts and shit. It's just like that except now it's your actual eye.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Like when I woke up, because I was like, my vision was super blurry. But when I woke up, like, I was like, I'm going to see now. Because, you know, I always gauge it. I should be like, hey, I should ask my friends like, what's the score on the TV? They should like score such and such. And I was like, ain't no way I can see that. So when I woke up, I stood far as fuck back from the TV. Read it all. And I was like, ooh, the score is 76 to 30. I'm like, oh, this is stupid. I was like, that's how much. That's why I bought this fucking TV, nigga.
Starting point is 01:37:56 This bitch is clear. Like, I was looking like, this is crazy. She was like, and Heather was looking. She was like, man, I can see. But see, that's why it's so important to be an attentive parent because my mom, she still talks about how bad she felt when she realized that I needed glasses like my whole life and that she didn't fucking notice.
Starting point is 01:38:13 And me and my girl were just having that conversation. I had fucking eczema and, like, dry skin growing up. And I don't remember my parents ever offering me lotion. Like, I don't think they, they didn't even know. And my girl was kind of saying the same thing that she used to have dry skin and her parents never offered a lotion. I'm like, I just grew up in a lotionless fucking world. And I've mentioned this many times, but in 10th grade, there was a bunch of black people
Starting point is 01:38:36 in my math class and that's when I found out about lotion. That's the whitest shit I've ever heard. White people don't fucking motion like that. That is crazy. I use it a bit now. And my kid has dry skin, so we got to use the lotion with her. Cocoa butter lotion. They didn't offer you lotion, dog.
Starting point is 01:38:51 So you're just going out in the world just crazy. Ashes was fucking. He's a fuck all day. He's lizard skin. It wasn't that bad, but, you know, I probably could have used some lotion. Exima's pretty bad, though. It can get that, yeah, yeah. My son got that shit bad.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Really? Hell yeah, everywhere. My son likes to have that. Yeah, he'd be scratching like a motherfucker. You ever see a homeless person and you're just kind of admiring their ashyness? No. They got like an ashy elbow that extends like all the way down to their arm or their hand. That's fucked up.
Starting point is 01:39:19 I mean to want to help them out. We should like in the homeless care packages should include lotion though. Like 1,000% instead of just like regular hygiene products, I think throwing some lotion in there is a good idea. I've thought about going to Skid Row and just giving out hand jobs. Yeah, you tripping. Just to help them get some relief. Like I'm not gay, but I'm a humanitarian. That's the stupidest shit.
Starting point is 01:39:44 That was a Danny Mullen joke that's not going over. We're not. We're a homophobe. That didn't go over well with us, man. Homelessphob. I got to take a piss. Oh, right, bro. Come on, dad.
Starting point is 01:39:57 I hate this. Doing podcasts with the creatine freshly pumping through my system. Is the bang? You still drinking that? No, I just put creatine in the coffee every morning now. I'm going to go to muffin can't stop us after this, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:10 That, that, bro, that's the only coffee that I will fucking drink now. Shit is called a Cubano. It's fucking amazing. Shit hit hard. Yeah, I'm going over there after this. It's to deal with everybody, man. I'm chilling. How do you feel this nigga be calling you like,
Starting point is 01:40:24 you tripping on you, you straw hat man and all this shit now? It makes him feel better about himself. You got to knock this nigga out. It makes him feel a lot better about himself. Now, you know what? It's crazy because we were talking about this on Ace Boys the other day. Speaking of that, bro, I commend you for going on there. Bro.
Starting point is 01:40:42 You look like. You look, hey, I ain't going to look for a minute, Rios is looking at you, and you were looking like, want to get away? I was like, oh, shit. To be honest with you, it's not, they're all. Oh my God. It wasn't. You were trying to get the fuck up out of there.
Starting point is 01:40:57 It wasn't like that at all. Like, beforehand, like, Rios is like the nicest guy out of all this. Coolest nigger, man. Yeah, like, he's cool as fuck. Like, it wasn't even, you know, and they told me, I'm not going to say who they said that I was like the chillest out of anyone that they had over it. there. I'm not going to say who they said was legitimately terrified and who they wanted to fire on, but it is. We know. Yeah, if you know, you know. If you know, I, YK, YK. But they, um, no,
Starting point is 01:41:26 they were basically saying, because they were like, oh, you're a house phone's replacement. And I was like, no, technically, I'm not. Technically, T.Rell. No, technically, technically is you. Why? Because you, you, the reason that you got here is that house phone missed so much, you have happen to be in the corner, we're like, hey, man, come over here and try this. Right. And the people fucked at you. That, but House Phone was there that episode. That episode that you're talking about?
Starting point is 01:41:50 But he came late. He did come late. So technically, I'm your replacement. Yeah. But here's the thing. It wasn't until House Phone left. Bro, I was replacement. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:42:05 Wow. They wanted me to be a replacement. All this replacement people are crazy. All that to say, all that to say, maybe they were right. I mean redacted, I'm sorry. Maybe I am house phones. Edit that. Maybe I am house phones replacement because Adam used to get on house phones helmet about a bunch of shit like that.
Starting point is 01:42:21 You definitely took the shit down. You better stand up for yourself. I'm curious. Ho ass nigger. Adam. Adam. Hmm. Who, do you feel like, was I house phones replacement?
Starting point is 01:42:34 Yes. Or is T. Railhouse phones replaced. Your house phone's replacement. It is weird how house phone was like technically removed from the no jumbes. show in such a non-seremonious way. Or like at some point. He just wasn't showing up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:48 At that time like nobody, it wasn't a big deal because everybody just kind of like understood. You never told him. Bro, if you would have came on here. As soon as he started trying to come back like a few weeks later, we were like, yeah. If you would have come on here and you would have sucked, Adam would not have told you to stay on the show. The comments was great. Everybody was like, we like Lush's energy.
Starting point is 01:43:05 It kept being good. You feel me? And then Adam was like, all right, you, you, you, you know. We did really need someone in that. moment. So right place, right time. Yeah, but. Replace me, guy? But no. Check this out. Check this out. Did you buy my shirt of that band the replacements?
Starting point is 01:43:20 Fire. That would be a good reference. Not but then, good callback. But then the four of us were here at our house phone left and motherfucking A. A.C. Green stepped off the bench. You're both house phone replacements. That nigga is not A.C. Green. That's Kobe right there. Put some respect on his name. He was a sixth man though in this context. He wasn't a sixth man. Well, he was off the bench. Nah, man. Adam was like, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Housephone is gone. I need my power player. Come over here. He didn't even ask him. He was just like T.Rill, be here on this time. Well, but it is kind of a weird thing that like T.Row has become like more and more a big part of the channel. But then meanwhile, we were not on camera together ever. So it did seem kind of like a natural thing.
Starting point is 01:44:02 You didn't fuck with him like that. You did the initial interview of Trial. Yeah, yeah. But I'm saying it's not like we were on here together every week. No, he thinks he should be on every show. No. He should be on everything. That's definitely lush.
Starting point is 01:44:13 Remember Lush was like desconnected like Coneckos for a while? I said Lush, every fucking thumb I've seen this. The Monday show. Lush, Lush. They was asking for me. That's when the sort of like
Starting point is 01:44:25 Lush, like, anti-lush wave started was like when you were like maybe on the camera a little too much. Damn the anti-lush. Well, it was broke. It started with T.Rells punk ass, really. No, bro. You behind this scene, you tell him,
Starting point is 01:44:38 that didn't fucking happen. Hey, Flacco, you want me to join your show? That's it did. If you did not, I'm down for you. This is a fucking lie. If you want to be on the show, I'll be down for you. This is a fucking lie. He's going to be an almighty shit in the minute.
Starting point is 01:44:52 Oh, I promise you that's like I can have. I bet you if we say, hey, man, join back. Join back on Fig and Joy & Community. You're going to be like for show. I'm near. No, I'll fuck with y'all. I'll come on your shit. Like, but pause.
Starting point is 01:45:02 It's coming on your shit. Pause. But I do. That's brown and white. But no. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:45:11 So you don't feel like you over-extended yourself with like everything on the channel? You did everything except we hungry, bro. Let's keep it real. I did we hungry. God damn. This nigga. Wow.
Starting point is 01:45:24 You did disconnected too? I did disconnect. He was on like four episodes. No, but that's on like four episodes. That's like a concern though because. The Monday show? Like I have a new host right now. I have a couple new hosts that realistically are probably going to be
Starting point is 01:45:37 entering the No Jumper universe. Not people. that you guys really know necessarily, but like, I have a few new hosts, and it's kind of like weird to me in my head because it's like, it would be easy. Like, like, in this case, I kind of like know that the people are going to fuck with at least one of them, like, a lot. It would be hell of easy to put them on camera. Hey, you're going to be on the news three times a week.
Starting point is 01:45:58 You're going to be on this spot, this spot. But it's also like, you've got to really, I think you got to give the people some of them, but you don't want to like completely flood their fucking ears with that person over. with that person over and over, you know? But it's a balance because, like, look what happened with God's here. There was, like, no connection. We were the red-headed stepchild's children of a no jumper. Nobody was fucking with us.
Starting point is 01:46:20 And if it wasn't for y'all bringing me on the pod when y'all did, y'all never would have known that I actually could have potentially worked over here. But that's why the news is good is because we're able to, like, introduce people more gradually like that and, like, see what they think of them and everything. I agree. But it's also, it's kind of complicated, too, because you just, you know, Sometimes you want to try people out because, all right, like the Long Beach Griffey thing. His podcast has not been doing that great views-wise.
Starting point is 01:46:45 I feel like if we had introduced him better through this shit or through some other show, that it would have just, like, we would have been able to make him more of, like, part of the friend group and then people would be paying more. I think he's funny as fuck. I do too, but I think I made the mistake of assuming, like, oh, he has three million YouTube subscribers. We could just give him a show. We don't have to, like, make him part of the crew. And that's how I was feeling people are like, start a no-jumper East Coast.
Starting point is 01:47:08 I have a studio out here. You can start a studio. I'm like, if you start, if I just do No Jumber East Coast and it's just some guy that like I've been talking to on Instagram, like what the fuck? Like how is that No Jumber? It's not No Jumber unless the people involved actually like makes sense as part of this group. Otherwise the fans aren't interested.
Starting point is 01:47:25 It's not too late. I think the people should like the people, they're watching this, they should have to say so of who is going to work and stuff like that. And they do essentially. Yeah, to the most part. Because if the views aren't good, then should. But I do agree, I do agree that I did get a little oversaturated for a minute, but I also like... You did it yourself.
Starting point is 01:47:44 But I mean like, I wanted the opportunity. I was just trying to work. And I respect that. In fact, in fact, I respect that. I asked you, I was like, do you feel like I'm getting oversaturated? And you said, nah, get on as much shit as you possibly get. Well, I didn't say, do every show? You literally said, I said, try to...
Starting point is 01:47:59 I asked you. I remember the conversation well, because I'm, you're someone I consult with about this shit. I was like, I was like, do you feel like I'm doing too much getting oversaturated? And you're like, nah, fuck. Fuck that. Do as much as you possibly can. Nigger, that was originally before all the other shit came. You was like, you start whispering people's ears. I'll be available for you.
Starting point is 01:48:16 I'm like, nigga. But I didn't think he was oversaturated. He's Batman and Dane. He's evil and good. I'm two-faced. I didn't think of shit. There you go. Nobody ever calling Batman again.
Starting point is 01:48:26 You don't think I did too much, though? No. Well, here we are now. It is what it is. I mean, I think about that with myself. How many podcasts could I do? And how many would be good for me to do? I mean, I only have two.
Starting point is 01:48:40 It's cool at first, but like once you start getting adjusted, you'd be like, this is a lot. I know a lot of comedians who have like five podcasts that they do every week. Well, doesn't it feel kind of good, though, that you could essentially not show up for a few days and there's still going to be content churning out and everything's going to be cool. Yeah, I need a clone, though.
Starting point is 01:48:59 I'm going away for a month. I need something like a clone. Go on Wayfair. The child, the children stuck in the boxes or whatever. You don't know Wayfair is? The children stuck in the box. Children smugglers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:11 They had that. They had that rumor. I'm trying to stay away from that. Jesus Christ. Can we talk about The Last of Us? One of the best games of all time. I just want to say, as long as Riley's sitting right there, that the only reason why I watched this show is because I did that interview with Bizzle and Catfish. And Bizzle started crying his eyes out.
Starting point is 01:49:29 And he was talking about, I cry when I watch movies, man. I seen that Last of Us, episode three, I cry my eyes out. And I fucking, it's so serious. I'm just like, jaw dropped. And then I hear Riley just snickering under her breath. So I knew it had to be something good. So I watched the whole show just to like see what the fuck you was talking about. Spoiler.
Starting point is 01:49:52 There's like that that episode is basically the gay episode. You know what's crazy is that that is the only episode from the show that has not been like an absolute carbon copy of the video game. And like in the game, you kind of like, Bill, you build. you see it is insinuated that he might be gay. Okay, big spoilers. Big spoilers, if you haven't watched this on HBO. But at one point in the show, so the whole show is basically like the world has been taken over by this insane pandemic virus that's like absolutely like killing everybody and
Starting point is 01:50:23 turning people into like fucking flushing zombies and shit like that, right? And there's one dude who's smart enough to basically like hide in his basement while they're evacuating his whole town. And then he basically like sets up, you know, big fences around his whole thing and stuff. So he's like one of the last people living in this town. And a dude like basically like escapes and he's on the run and he's like dying of hunger and shit. And he just shows up at this guy's house and he brings him in and he gives him a meal and he lets him shower and everything. And then when he's supposed to be going on his way, they end up making out.
Starting point is 01:50:53 And it turns out they're both gay and they spend the next however many years, 20 years like in love with each other or whatever. And I was thinking about it. I'm like, is that like a force gay storyline? Like, does it feel kind of like tacked on? It could have easily been a man and a woman. But it couldn't have because number one, a woman is not going to like take on the responsibility most often that this dude did of like creating this fucking compound. No, the woman could have been the other person. No, but I'm saying that would have been really problematic too because then there would have been this sort of power balance of like, you know, you wouldn't be able to accept the idea that this guy has all the power and that this woman comes into his world and like, oh, look at this love story.
Starting point is 01:51:31 I felt like only through it being two men were we able to see it as being like sort of equal and balanced. Spoiler alert, in the in the video game, there's a prominent section with Bill. He doesn't die. So that's kind of like for the TV, they're switching things up. They kind of like leave him. He's gay in the video game though? It's kind of insinuated he's gay because you find his partner like he hung himself in the game. And then he reads this note basically and he's like kind of like you're like, all right, he might be.
Starting point is 01:52:01 He's a little bit too sad. Like the first time I played, I played the game in 2013. I didn't think nothing of him being gay. When I redid the game about a couple months ago, I said, oh, yeah, now I was really incinuated that. Yeah. So you're cosplaying as a gay dude, essentially. Basically.
Starting point is 01:52:16 Yeah. Well, he also watches a deep fake gay porn as well. Oh, no. Wow. Oh, no. I know. But that show, like, I love that show. It's beautifully acted.
Starting point is 01:52:26 But like, the fact that I played that game so many times is like, Damn, it's literally a carbon copy. Are you having fun watching the show? I'm having fun because I'm happy people are getting into the world. And you know what I'm saying, one of my favorite games of all the time. But it's like the excitement for me, I know everything that's about to happen. Whereas like, it's different like when you read a book and you know something's about to come.
Starting point is 01:52:50 But when you play something multiple times and it's like, it's moving basically exactly the same thing. Like the next episode and the finale, if they land the finale, that's what I want to see. If they land the finale, it's going to go down probably is one of the best. Is the game like open world? Or is it more like- It's linear, but it's still open world. You could do things without doing that.
Starting point is 01:53:12 But side quests. The second game, because they already greenlit another season. It's only two games to go off of. The third game is probably going to come out a year or two for now. But the second game is 50 times more brutal. It's fucking crazy. Like if they play that out and act that out, two on the second game, on the second season, it's gonna be crazy.
Starting point is 01:53:33 Bro, there, and I don't like all the zombie shit, horror movies, whatever, but there's a scene from like an episode or two ago where the ground just opens up and like 5,000 fucking zombies are just coming out, killing it. You see that big, you see that big, nigger? Yes. Oh my God, and the bullets won't kill him. So, this must be so weird to be, because I never talk about shows like this. So that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:53:53 So that is, and that's kind of, that's kind of, when you see one of those for the first time in the game, you're with Bill. You go to this high school. I'm gonna fuck him. Paul. You go to this high school and that big-ass thing is in like a fucking gym
Starting point is 01:54:07 and you have to kill that thing and so you're running around a little small-ass gym with Bill and you got to kill that shit. So I was like probably because of the CGI it was gonna be super expensive for them to do that shit that they probably went the other ride
Starting point is 01:54:20 which was... That's what I like when you're watching TV shows and shit is that they can only afford to like in a one hour episode they can only afford to give you like two minutes of zombies. I like when storylines actually follow it to, like, what, yeah, yeah. Because if you look at, like, as someone, I grew up a fanatic of Marvel comics,
Starting point is 01:54:40 comics in general. But. Well, I'm not a, I didn't read the comics, but I was a fan. I saw I know I got bad taste because I was a D.C. guy. I fucked with, I fucked with, I'm not as big as Marvel. Nigger James Gunn is, he's doing all this shit now. He's the nigger. I didn't really fuck with DC.
Starting point is 01:54:53 I'm a transformer guy. I fucked with, that's Marvel. Same. That's technically Marvel. But, um. That has broke? Yes, but there was like in the 80s, there was like Marvel Comics Transformers. But it's not part of the MCU though.
Starting point is 01:55:06 But basically, like if you watch the original Spider-Man movies and X-Men movies, they don't really, there's a lot of allusions to the comics, but it's not like dead on. Following a storyline. They don't have to follow a storyline. I feel like Spider-Man and shit. They don't. Even Batman, it can do whatever the fuck he wanted to do, really. Well, it's like what it threw me off.
Starting point is 01:55:28 Yeah, I mean, like. As long as I can get the villains in there, long if I can get those, like, you know, those initial villains in there, that's cool. But Batman can go do it every one. Well, this is, this is the fucked up thing about the whole Marvel situation. The comics weren't doing, the comics weren't doing good at all. So Marvel had sold their properties to different studios. And that's why you didn't, you don't, it's up until now, you didn't have a lot of these
Starting point is 01:55:52 people on screen with each other. Because in the comics, you know, Avengers, whereas the X-Man people were in there, the fantastic four people are in there. You know, Marvel, they wasn't doing too good. They sold Spider-Man and all their properties to Sony. They sold Fantastic Four and X-Men to Fox. So they couldn't overlap. Because Iron Man wasn't really like a big person like that.
Starting point is 01:56:15 And Marvel, they said, fuck it. We're going to start that shit off. It blew the fuck up. Then Thor came and they started doing that shit. So now Disney put the bag up and they bought everything back. Yeah, superhero movies weren't really like a big deal when we were in high school. At all.
Starting point is 01:56:29 It was literally, when we were in high school, it was, there was, the Batman franchise and Spawn and Blade. And that's literally it. And Spawn is image. That's Image Comics. And what's a Michael, Jilil White? What's my guy name? Jalililil L'Rkel.
Starting point is 01:56:45 No, Urquil is Jal White, but what's Michael? Fuck. Michael B. Jordan? No, nigger. We just talked about him. Oh, Michael Jordan. Without the B. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:56:53 The dude who played Spahn you're talking about? The who did he's the first. Todd McFarlane. No. He's the first black super. to be on there and then it was blade, yeah. Black Panther. Spawn was black.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Spawn was black, yeah. That was the first like black superhero. Well, technically Meteor Man. But not in movies, but it was in comics, Luke Cage, Power Man. I was obsessed with this dude back in the day who was an artist for Image Comics named Rob Leifield and you should look up articles about him because he was kind of like famous for like not being that good at drawing superheroes and I was like really into the movie. this as a young guy. He was raw and Jim Lee
Starting point is 01:57:31 was super raw. He used to do all the X-Men in the early 90s. But Rob Lafiel took it way too far. He was just like straight smoking meth with some of those feet he'd be drawn. But anyway, I got into, I really got into superheroes in 1992 when Superman was killed. I have that issue.
Starting point is 01:57:47 Doomsday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Donesday killed him. And I remember being a kid and just being like, Superman could die, what the fuck? And then I got and he's back to life, like three issues. It was called The Death of Superman. That was a crazy issue. And when I just Googled it to see what year it was, the fucking image that comes up with the fucking Superman cape, like, hanging, like, he's dead under the ground.
Starting point is 01:58:06 And they just did that in the movies, too. I think this was like 75 cents. And how did he come back to life? Some spare bullshit. He wasn't really did. I don't know. I was like, you're Superbad. You can't kill him.
Starting point is 01:58:17 But that was, like, at that time. Put him under the ground and then, like, something sparked it and he came back up, right? I don't remember because they just did that. And Superman came back and they was tripping on him. He didn't know. He was just attacking people. During that same time, there was hell of dope Marvel Comics. I think it was either Fox or it was either Fox or ABC or I think it was Fox had a crazy animated series.
Starting point is 01:58:43 The Spider-Man animated series. Classic. At that time, the X-Men. X-Man. That's like, it's transforming X-Men. It's crazy. They're bringing that back. It's called X-Man 97.
Starting point is 01:58:56 It takes place right after, you know, how. it ended as we was when we was kids. That is the best. That lineup with Gambit and all them was so fire. Yeah, Gambit, and that was a person too who they couldn't get on the movies like that. Yeah, which he's the best character, too. He was always my favorite. I'm listening to this
Starting point is 01:59:13 really amazing podcast about J.K. Rowling, who's the author of Harry Potter. Like, Hog Horse Legacy is amazing. Right, but I've been listening to this podcast about it on the free press. If anybody wants to check it out, it's like this really dope series about her life and everything. And one of the things that they pointed out was that a huge percentage of kids got really obsessed with Harry Potter because the basic
Starting point is 01:59:33 gist of it is like he's a normal kid who doesn't have like a cool life or anything and then he finds out that there's this whole world that is being hidden from him and that's like a very appealing idea to kids because you know kids have boring lives and the idea that you could just sort of like have this this whole history to you that you don't know about it's very attractive and I was thinking I'm like I really didn't have that like desire for like fantasy or like or or magic when I was a kid. And then I thought about how I used to read Wolverine and really, really wish that I could shoot the metal claws
Starting point is 02:00:04 out of my hands like that. And so I was like, I guess that was my version of Harry Potter as a young kid. But they also, before that, there was like the Chronicles of Narnia. Like there's always a demand for shit like that. I ain't getting a nobody closet. But no, it's just kind of. You never got out of it. I was always in tune with the, I was always in tune with like the bad guy,
Starting point is 02:00:24 but still the good guy. It's kind of like. Magneto. It was kind of like Stone Cold, thing, Wolverine. I feel like they was the same motherfucker, the good guy and the bad guys. Wolverine is definitely the good guy. But he still kind of was like the asshole, though. Yeah, he was true.
Starting point is 02:00:40 Like, it was almost like the bad guy. He was. Then fuck y'all, I feel like to do me. But that's why I like Batman, because Batman's like always in pain. He's like miserable. He's got billions of dollars. He feels horrible about everything. His body hurts.
Starting point is 02:00:52 He's wearing a 400-pound suit, all this shit. You got the coolest car of the world. He's still pissed off. I don't know. That always just, like, really appealed to me. I hell the fuck with... People really love Batman other than Superman. Bro.
Starting point is 02:01:03 Superman's a bitch compared to... It's just too positive. Just like, Fools don't fuck with... Fools don't fuck with Cyclops from the X-Men because he's like too much of a goody-choo's. Fools don't fuck with Leonardo from the Ninja Turtles. What the fuck you mean, nigga? I got that tat on the blue one, nigga.
Starting point is 02:01:19 Leonardo, that's... What about Homeland is. Leonardo the weakest one. Michaelangelo. Oh, boy. Leonardo ain't the weakest one. Leonardo was the least one. leader, nigga. Yeah, exactly, but he's kind of a model.
Starting point is 02:01:29 Now they write Homelander to be straight up evil from the beginning, so it's like they know that people are going to go in that direction. Did you see the trailer for the spino? No, I don't watch trailers. Nigger, the spino. What's the spin-off? Of the college, of the college kids with the powers. That's going to be amazing. Bro, my
Starting point is 02:01:45 favorite comic book character of all time is Magneto, and he's a villain, but I feel like he does things for righteous causes. He's fighting for the purity of the mutant race. He doesn't like the way the mutants are getting oppressed. Sounds like her. He was a, he was a Jew in a concentration camp.
Starting point is 02:02:00 Yeah, he was. He was in a concentration camp and he discovered his powers when they were trying to. Him and Charles have two different views, but they're best friends. What about juggernaut? Hey, but now our childhood- I'm the juggernaut, bitch. Now, my childhood shit, is this all, like, it's positive. There's no fucking bad guys.
Starting point is 02:02:17 Oh, the shit, your kids watch? Hell yeah, really? Like, every fucking, every, every, fucking, every, like, every, there's no fucking bad guys. Like, they not- There's bad guys everywhere. Only bad guy we know is the Grinch. He ain't even a bad guy.
Starting point is 02:02:30 But that's oldest fuck. He is. He stole some shit, he gave it back. When I'm watching Pinocchio, they got that scary-ass whale monster. And then I forget what the other dude's name. There's some other dude who's like capturing little kids and hiding them away and shit. Oh, the fox is fucked up. There's a lot of villains in Pinocchio.
Starting point is 02:02:47 But I think they realize at a certain point that it's not really worth it. If you want to appeal the young kids, you can't have anybody evil. There's really no new properties like that. It's nothing. They're just bringing up new shit. Yeah. I mean, they bring things. They still make new movies all the time, right?
Starting point is 02:03:00 No, but it's literally like because they were taking so many L's, they're like, we need to rehash franchises that we know we're going to be successful. Like Guardians of the Galaxy wasn't, nobody knew about him like that. And the movie came out and made James Gunn go, now he about to run all the DC movies. So I'm looking forward to that. You don't see movies like Forrest Gump anymore, things like that. You never, that whole era is completely gone. People won't take a risk on it.
Starting point is 02:03:25 like a movie that doesn't exist of characters I already know about. I got one for YouTube in DC that you're like. What? It's called Peacemaker. It's on HBO MX. Probably one of the best openings I ever seen. Really? It's John Cena.
Starting point is 02:03:36 He's just like, he's super gangster. He don't give a fuck. He wants to kill people. He's fired. He's like Punisher kind of. He's like worse. I saw a clip of some old as DX,
Starting point is 02:03:46 the Rock, etc., like footage from like 20 years ago and it just made me like, oh my God, why did I ever stop watching this shit? It was a beautiful thing, man. like Stone Cold just getting fucking like because it's like the rock runs into the ring and the cane runs into the ring and it's like
Starting point is 02:04:01 bro this is like a Monday fucking night show like or it's like a you know it's not a pay-per-view it's not and it's not Monday right and wrong it's like a random Thursday or some shit and they got all these superstars in the ring at the same time in a way that would just never happen now unless it was like
Starting point is 02:04:17 WrestleMania or some shit that era was incredible come on mankind the rock stone cold that was a fucking dope era for wrestling that shit was crazy It's, it's, it's, it's funny that, you, that this all was,
Starting point is 02:04:32 the catalyst of you even watching this show in this whole conversation was Bizzle. I just want to go on record and saying, I fuck with Bizzle so heavy.
Starting point is 02:04:42 I definitely want to do some content. I think Lush and Bizzle Oh, there you go. See, Lusch wants another show now. He's trying to start. Man, fuck you. So, you're both in recovery. They have a long goneman.
Starting point is 02:04:56 No, legit. Like a lot of people hit me up and said that too. And then like, I like that episode a lot. I don't know about your man's catfish. Who more black, Bizzle or Lush? I don't know about. No, but there's a Christian rapper. There's a Christian rapper from back in the day named.
Starting point is 02:05:11 It's a Wobbler. There's a Christian rapper from back of the name named Bizzle who's pissed off about Bizz being called Bizz. No, I have, everyone has a homie named Bizzle. Like, literally. Because we have another homie named Bizz. And the security was mad confused because I told them, I'm like, yo, there's a dude Bizzle coming. He's kind of out of control.
Starting point is 02:05:31 Keep him away from everybody else until we're ready to do the podcast. And then my friend Bizz shows up who's like the most straight-laced dude ever. And he's like wondering why the security put him in here by himself. Free the homie Bizzle, man. That's the one who was like, I'm the, what's the shit the homie said before? What? He said, I'm the one when he knocked the nigga out. You remember that?
Starting point is 02:05:52 What? God damn it. What? What do he say? I don't know. He knocked something out, maybe. We'll talk about it later. He jumped into a, there's like a park near downtown,
Starting point is 02:06:03 and there's like four foot deep water in this little, like, fake pond that's in the, you know, it's like near downtown. So you could assume that there is probably like cholera and DNA in the fucking water and everything. Like near MacArthur Park and shit? It might be MacArthur Park. I forget. But either way, this motherfucker, Bizzle, we're filming a BMX video. Everybody's riding or whatever.
Starting point is 02:06:21 And he just goes, hey, you want me to jump into the fucking? water for your video? This is like 10 years ago. I go, I'm like, yes. There's dead bodies in there. Bro, he fucking takes his clothes off and fucking run. He's had shorts on or whatever and jumps in there and immediately cuts the fucking bottom of his feet open and there's hell of duck shit. And then he just has to get out. His feet are all torn open. There's shit all over him. I'm like, bro, you are the craziest fucking person I've ever met my entire life. Nobody else would ever do this. I could answer your question that you asked. What?
Starting point is 02:06:56 It's the question. What's wrong with white people? No, no. He said, who's blacker, you, or Bizzle? Shit. Well, you now. Apparently. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:07:06 Sorry. I said it was a wobbler. That was white people. That just, that just, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, not no wobble. Not no more. I'm not having duck shit. I'm smooth. With a cut fucking foot open.
Starting point is 02:07:16 But Bizzle, that's how you got powers. Definitely needs. Duck man. He needs another no jumper look. We got to do something with him. I'm just, like, kind of worried because I don't know how stable he is. For real? He seemed chill.
Starting point is 02:07:29 Yeah. But I've known him to be, like, very much alternatingly chill and insane throughout his life. Like, I don't know how stable his state of being is, but. Yeah, bro. Other guy was kind of, was kind of a dick, bro. Catfish did not do himself any favors. Yeah. It was just, it was very mean.
Starting point is 02:07:47 Trying to talk down on the boy, Bizzle. How dare he. Catfish was being very mean. It was very mean. That was white, too. So we might go back Wobbler, man, because that was white. New show coming to no jumper. Lush and Bizzle.
Starting point is 02:08:00 So you're turning your back on Wobbler because I told you that it was kind of like... Fuck, no. It was like saying, oh, that's interesting. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was a great, but that was great, though. Like, damn. If you break it down... I thought Wobbler means it could go either way.
Starting point is 02:08:15 It could go either way. Yeah. It's a wobbler. But that's what interesting is. It's like, well, I'm not saying I like it. I'm not saying I don't like it. But it's definitely interesting. That's called playing both sides of the fence
Starting point is 02:08:25 He's like 80 Stephen A. Smith went on a rant against his co-host because his co-host kept saying that everything was interesting. Can we just say that these discracks were really like a great way for everyone to get out how they really felt in a creative way?
Starting point is 02:08:41 We don't know what about your disc tracks no more. He just quoted it. We don't care, dog. He just quoted it, Dick. You got the distracts you know. We're not going to talk about distracts. for fucking two-hits and a half hours. That's how you really feel.
Starting point is 02:08:56 We out of here on this disc track and shit. Yeah, I will admit that, like, I was pretty hyped on your first disc, and then you just started explaining it, and my mood just went from, like, pretty hyped to, like, I don't really like rap anymore. Hey, the people liked it. I don't know what the fucking got. He was like, he was like,
Starting point is 02:09:13 he does not want this to come out. He does not. I know. I was like, the three-minute, like, thing at the end of being like, I didn't want to do this, but I did it, because Lush has something, bro, Lush does it. I was getting threats. Yeah, I'm getting threats.
Starting point is 02:09:27 You text the nigger who you distance said, I shouted you out. I'm not even gonna get into it, but there's other shit. I didn't threaten you. No, you didn't. Okay. But this nigger Lush, though, he does this every time and I noticed this.
Starting point is 02:09:40 When I'm in the room or I'm on a phone, he would say the nicest things. As soon as I walk away or say something, he'd like, yeah, whatever. Nah. You done that two times already. When you were a China Mac, he was like, You're such a, you're a great artist, you're this and everything.
Starting point is 02:09:53 And as soon as I hang up, I love you, bro, as soon as I hang up the phone, he can't handle me. He can't fuck him. He can't fuck with me. I'm like, what the fuck? Well, I mean, then when we're on the camera, I leave the room to talk a T-Rail. He's like, he doesn't want this to come out. He doesn't want it. I'm like, bitch, play this shit then.
Starting point is 02:10:12 I ain't scared of your fucking distract. Well, you were beforehand saying. I definitely was not scared. I said, my brother going to whoop your ass if you put it out there. If you put it out there, and I said, if that's what you want to do, then, nigga, go ahead and do it. You were telling me, like, it's probably not the best idea. Because you're going to get your ass on.
Starting point is 02:10:29 And then at that moment, I don't want you to get punched on. And then in that moment, you were like, put it out, blame AD, blame AD. No, because when you're sitting there saying, he don't want me to drop this and he don't want, no, niggas, you were thinking about not dropping it. I didn't hear it and say, lush, don't do this. You was like, I don't think I should do this because you're going to get punched on. And I'm like, lush, if you drop this, Skizer might fuck you up.
Starting point is 02:10:53 So you was the one that was contemplated not one to drop it. For the record, there was never any conversation of getting punched on. It was just that- No, I told you Kiki ain't gonna like this, which means get your ass-whop. It's still pending. But there-ass-whipping? Yeah. Your ass-whoop and pinned, boy.
Starting point is 02:11:12 He, uh, he don't like getting spoken on, so I'm not gonna say nothing else. You already did it. I'm thinking of it. There's nothing else to say, but... This is the last question. Do you want me to be Batman or do you want me to be two-face in a situation? What do you think is more effective? I think it's more effective.
Starting point is 02:11:33 Fuck your diss track. Fuck both of y'all distrake. That ain't trying to hear that shit no more. Let's get Lotto in the booth. Yeah, we're Lotto. Let's get Lotto in the booth. We've been watching this video play on the screen for the last hour and a half. Let's get Lotto on that.
Starting point is 02:11:47 Dude, how many views did we just get the fucking No-Jembert Twitter on this video? This should have been playing for two hours. I know, man. Let's get a lot on the cold. Charlie Brown. Who watched Charlie Brown when they was little? I watched Charlie Brown. Damn, that shit's just too old.
Starting point is 02:11:59 Yeah. I love that shit. Has the youngest person on his cash now. That's my old niggas shit. I'm on my almighty shit. You're in the same. You're gonna die. What was the black kid on Charlie Brown?
Starting point is 02:12:09 Clarence? That's fucked up. What was that little fucker's name? Call that nigga. Wait, who was Pigpin? He wasn't black. Pink Pan was white. Pink Pan was a dirty white boy.
Starting point is 02:12:17 That's the dirty nigga. All right. Back to Google in. Who was the black peanuts character? Black penis Did he have? Pause. Peanuts.
Starting point is 02:12:27 If his name was actually Clarence, wouldn't be hyped. Franklin. Franklin, yep. Shard of Franklin. That's like Flacco. Was there. Franklin?
Starting point is 02:12:34 Watch no fault, man. Last season. Oh, did you watch the Cosby show when you were younger? Hell yeah. Get the pudding. That's tight, dog. Hey, pudding too.
Starting point is 02:12:43 So you did? You did? So the whole family, did y'all get together in the living room and watch the Cosby's? Look at these niggas on TV. I guess sometimes. I watch a lot of family.
Starting point is 02:12:51 Family Matters. Family Matters was good. Family Matters was actually really good, man. It's a record just in the day and age. Really good news in the newspaper page. You know what's funny? Look at the line of life Some people say
Starting point is 02:13:12 In the heart of life It's the big of love It's the family The devil put it, boom, boom, don't have no jingles like that no more. Nah. Was that their song or did that song previously exist? Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 02:13:49 Let's find out. It's called Days Go Bob. Yeah, so home was though. Family Matters theme. I could, like, I remember the, the melody of it, but I can't remember a single fucking word. Okay. It's a rare condition.
Starting point is 02:14:00 I'm old as hell. Did you watch Gilligan's Island? Yeah. No. Oh, shit. Reruns, obviously. Did you, were you mad at Gilligan? You're a Gilligan.
Starting point is 02:14:09 I've never heard of, I wanted to fuck Mary Ann. I've never seen Gilligan's I wanted to fuck Mary Ann. I still want to fuck Mary in. Did you watch I Love Lucy? Yeah, yeah. My grandma used.
Starting point is 02:14:19 My grandparents. My grandparents was the funniest. Man, she was dumb funny, bro. That nigga Ricky was slapping this shit out of her. Hey, that was very progressive. Lucy. I figured out she was racist. Why she?
Starting point is 02:14:31 Oh, they're going to come back so many memories. They're going to strike us. They're going to strike us. No, you know who got one of the best ones ever. Yo, Harriet, though. Harriet, though. Harriet. Harriet, though.
Starting point is 02:14:42 I love Lucy. One of the best ones, theme songs was Cheers. Oh, yeah. I think this family matters. When everybody knows your name. That's white. It's hard, though. Were there black people on the show?
Starting point is 02:14:57 Oh, boy, I never watched it. Lucy wasn't racist, though. Lucy was racist, dog. She had a Cuban husband. Yeah, and they both were racist. One of that homies name? Wasn't it like Phil and Ethel? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:08 Phil and Ethel was racist, too. They look racist, to be fair. filling ethel. Bro, she had one fucking episode where she was trying to, she worked at the chocolate factory, homie. That was fire. That shit, the funniest shit ever,
Starting point is 02:15:21 did you see that they had to change the text in the books of Charlie and the chocolate factory to make it so that it's not making fun of fat people? Really? Yeah, because you know when she fucking... Augustus Loop? Yeah, she eats the purple shit or whatever and she blows up into like a huge grape.
Starting point is 02:15:35 And like in the original book, it was like basically talking about her, like she was this disgusting fat thing or whatever. And they changed that. They changed mad shit. But that's not even the fat. The fat dude is Augustus Glob. We get stuck in the chocolate river.
Starting point is 02:15:47 I can't remember, but they fucking changed the language about people being fat. Yeah, yeah, Violet. But fun fact, they have a Charlie and a Chocolate Fat three prequel movie coming out. That's kind of. Is it the Mr. Beast YouTube video about him creating the... No, they got a real movie coming out about him before he got, I guess, before he got a chocolate thing. I didn't fuck with the Johnny Depp version of that.
Starting point is 02:16:07 I like the original. It was all right. Can I tell you about the most surreal thing that just happened to me? So I got hit up recently to do an interview with a person, a woman. I won't offer any sort of details that might confirm her identity. But the whole email that I got about why I should interview her was like, she's been connected to this dude, this guy, she dated, this guy, yeah, like tons of like different connections in that way.
Starting point is 02:16:28 So, like, she's done some shit that is valid, like, in the real world outside of the dating thing for sure. But, like, that was definitely going to be, like, kind of one of the most interesting things. And I just got hit up by Laura saying, like, her team doesn't want her to discuss anything. about anybody she's ever dated. I said, no thanks. Doing that shit, there's nothing to talk about otherwise. So she fucked Mr. Beath? Quite possibly.
Starting point is 02:16:51 Oh, man. You're good. It's not really the... Mr. Bees got those. It's not really the lane that she's been working with in, as far as I can tell. Do you think Mr. Bees be slang just like ridiculous poo? No, he has a girlfriend. Okay. How about to say, you're the biggest YouTuber? Yeah. You know what's
Starting point is 02:17:07 funny is that Mr. Bees doesn't wear any designer or any fancy shit, but he went through this short period of time where he like came to LA and bought hella drip. So there's like very rare images of him like rocking a Gucci t-shirt and shit. Well, usually Mr. Bees, he takes requests and stuff too. So I want to publicly say, Mr. Bees, please give me some Lacey Guy's surgery. Does Mr. Bees? How did he get his money?
Starting point is 02:17:30 What's that video you show me? That broke down everything. That was amazing. He didn't come like, but he didn't come like pre-equipped with some type of. No. Pre-existing success or? No, no, no. Really?
Starting point is 02:17:44 He started his entire life, the only thing he's done has been making YouTube videos. Wow. Since he was like a small child and he, he's like 24 now. He was making like timer videos or something like that. He said Logan Paul 100,000 times. He counted to a million or some shit. I forget where they even were. But I remember one time Flacco was sitting there with Glasses Malone and started like,
Starting point is 02:18:06 he was trying to explain who Mr. Beast was. And for some reason, in Flacco. his retarded brain, he's like, well, he counted to a million. And Glass is just sitting there like, what the fuck? That sounds stupid as hell. I'm like, that's like the worst thing that you can say to describe his content. To be fair, before I came in no jumper, I did not know who Mr. Beas was. I didn't know who David Doebrick was.
Starting point is 02:18:26 I don't know about him. If I were to describe him to Glasses Malone, I would say he's a regular ass suburban white kid who makes the craziest YouTube videos you've ever seen in your life. And if you look through his thumbnails, you're going to see like 50 of them that you want to watch. I would leave out the counting to a million. I'd be like he's this dude that gives away millions of dollars to random people. And he'll like, he'll be an Uber driver and then he'll give you the Tesla when he drops you off. He does, that's how I would describe him.
Starting point is 02:18:52 That shit sounds sick. You never watch none of his shit? Yes. Yeah, he's that nigger. When I saw him go to Antarctica, that's when I really knew he was crazy. Yeah, he hard, dog. No, when he remade the old squid games and did that, I'm like, oh, my God. Yeah, that was dope as hell.
Starting point is 02:19:07 That was sick. Oh, that is dope. So him counting to a million, and I believe in a million seconds is like 16 days. It's like over two weeks. I think you count to $100,000 if I had to remember. Because in order to count, if you're doing more than one, like if you're doing one per second, it's like literally,
Starting point is 02:19:24 that's like a week, two weeks and a half. He signed T-shirts. Like he signed merch. Like if you bought a shirt, he signed it. And he had to sign so many that it was like, the whole YouTube video was like a week straight of him just signing these T-shirts. It's like nonstop. He had to figure out all these different ways to make it so he could sign more.
Starting point is 02:19:42 It was like the craziest shit. He's got to make money off that Mr. Beastburger thing too, right? It's a million ghost kitchens. He loses money making his YouTube videos, and then he makes it back on everything surrounding those YouTube videos. Mr. Beastburger is fire. I ain't going to lie to you. I don't know if you tried it.
Starting point is 02:19:58 It's still amazing to me that. David Dobry got something too, right? Who's David Dobry? He has a regular pizza place, but lush. Yeah, pizza place. It's a different place in every city. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is why it's funny because it's like, there's probably multiple Mr. Beast burgers in L.A.
Starting point is 02:20:10 It's ghost kitchens. No, it's not. Anything you get, no, it's just like any burger chain can just become part of the Mr. Beast thing. Oh, for real? And they will also, like, they're making their own burgers. Oh, we got a Mr. Beast order. Okay, we make that, boom.
Starting point is 02:20:22 And then they send it off. And it feels like you're getting it from Mr. Beast when you might be getting it from some fucking burger place a mile down the road. That's why I say it's a ghost kitchen. Yeah, but a ghost kitchen is like a commercial, or not commercial, but like a private kitchen in which they basically run a restaurant out of it. there is no physical location, but a lot of times when you go to Postmates and you see like kicking mac and cheese or like, you know, some like snazzy brand name.
Starting point is 02:20:44 But you can't walk up to know Mr. Beast Burger and get a Beast Burger. But you can have to go on Postmates and order it. That's a ghost kitchen. Okay, but you can walk up to the restaurant that is fulfilling the orders on behalf of Mr. Beas. See, I don't know that. I didn't know that either. When you see like, it'll always be some crazy ass name or some sort of like gimmicky sound and product on Postmates.
Starting point is 02:21:02 And at this point, I can pick it out like, oh, that's a ghost kitchen. Yeah. That's just like some rented space That's like badass burritos That kind of shit, yeah Right And that's just fun And my girl even will look at the address
Starting point is 02:21:13 And then look up the address And then the address is a fucking ghost kitchen Where they have like 20 different people cooking all in the same place Yeah Yeah but I've had it in multiple cities And it has a pretty consistent Flavored, yeah
Starting point is 02:21:27 You know what I mean? Like has to where I wouldn't know that Oh shit this is at fucking Johnny Rockets Or you know what I mean? Yeah Shame on. you. All right. I think we're done. I don't have an interview. I would be seven minutes late. How long how we do, Riley? That was two. Two and a half. That's cool. Yeah, I got me in here for two and a half.
Starting point is 02:21:46 That was pretty good. Movie. It's fucking lush fault. And Michael reveals himself. We up out of here. Hey, did we, did you end it yet? Okay. Get your cocaine bottees. Make sure you go get your tickets. Don't worry about it. Yeah, cocaine bottees. Go get that nojumper.com. Go holl at there right now. You're still on nojumper.com? Absolutely. Nojumper.com. And go get the rest of your merchandise. from nojumper.com, because I don't even know why we never say no, don't go get your merch on We got hootjumper.com. Why don't we say that all the time? And why don't we have merch on nojumper. Can you, well, we've been talking about it, but I was like, you know, because
Starting point is 02:22:16 because like the most obvious slogan to put on a shirt besides the cocaine bot might be the wobbler thing, but I don't know if you were planning on doing it yourself or whatever. We figured we would do like one. One dependent on one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because we're taking all that money. Oh, whole assy. You know what I'm saying? Make sure y'all go get your tickets, man, for the L-ray, man, June 22nd. I have a question. Can you do your live show at like 4.30 p.m.
Starting point is 02:22:40 so that I don't have to fuck up my sleep schedule. What live show? Maybe I can come and you can do like a private live show. Do you don't know if it's like 8 p.m.? I don't know. It's kind of late, man. It's going to be like a Friday. It's going to be in a weekend, dog.
Starting point is 02:23:00 Oh, yeah. Can you do that on a Wednesday, man? Let me see. I'll tell you exactly what. What day is it on? June. It's a Thursday. It's a Thursday.
Starting point is 02:23:07 I remember telling Duno I would go to his and then I went to dinner and it ran too late and I had to miss this. Is that why you didn't go on Ace Boys yet? Because it's late at night. It's definitely part of it. They say you chicken right now. No, they didn't hit me up. And then I've seen you in the thumbnail.
Starting point is 02:23:19 I'm like, all right, well, I guess I guess I'm good. I got to do a lot of fucking this Friday. Okay. Well, June 22nd, leave that free. So you can, everybody can come on, come to our show. El Ray, go get your tickets right now. Just hit myself in the lid with the mic. But that's okay.
Starting point is 02:23:34 You know what I'm saying? Go get your tickets. Right now, don't worry about nothing. Easy coffee. Go. Dang. We out. Appreciate y'all.

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