No Jumper - The No Jumper Show Ep # 444 w/ Tim Chantarangsu

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

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Bang, bang. We got a white, we got a Mexican. We got a light skin, black homosexual, and now we got an Asian. And before we even start, I want to introduce my new personification. The glaze guy. We gave you that for the record. Bang.

We just decided to own it, fine. You've created a monster. First of all, I want to say, sorry, y'all had to start the hour late. Me and Do Boy had a miscommunication. You know what I'm saying? I was literally just chilling with the babies. And then he was like, I was like, why do I see my name and the title? Did y'all talk about me on an episode?

And he was like, no, it's live today. I was like, oh, fuck. So what, you forgot that we were going to do this? Did he not properly vet you? I told him. He did. He told me. Yeah, who's foe was a Do Bois?

He said, yo, are you good for the 13th? 15th. I said, yes, I'm good. And then I realized today was my dad. daughter's like first summer school day. So I was like, oh shit, maybe I should be around when she gets back, whatever, whatever. How old is your daughter? Five.

Same. Oh, wow, wow. Bang, bang. I have some social overlap a bit. I think a bunch. Maybe they go to the same school. We could talk afterwards. So I was like, oh, shit.

And I didn't want to, you know, I didn't want to, I hate to miss an appointment. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, all right, it's not a lot of people I'll fucking push through rush hour for, but do boy. There you go. I got you, bro. I'm here. I'll put in a strong hour and then I'm going to head back to these babies.

There we go. Sounds good. That's good. Thank you. Do you have a five-year-old daughter and then you have little babies? And a three-year-old boy. Nice. Yeah.

That's what I said. How about you? Just one? Just the one. We're working on the next one, but kind of, we've been delaying it for a little past a year, but we're going to do it soon. So the divorce, it wasn't real? No. She has like a stalker who filed the paperwork.

I see. And then I, the viral marketing genius, immediately realized if we don't debunk this for a day or two, everybody will talk about us and we'll make money off Only fans and then we can tell them genius but then now leads to everybody just thinking that we're lying well guess what I'm getting a divorce too

y'all hate to hear that man how long you've been married for it Tim it'll be uh eight years let's see this is this is 2026 we got married in 2018 yeah eight years in there before we even get into anything else can I just say that

I think I had a realization just just now as I was coming to the bathroom which is that the Phoenix Flexon song is the first time and maybe the only time in history in which the LA Mexican community is feeling like they can be a little bit more open with their zestiness. Why does that equal zestiness?

You don't think that song has like a little bit of a gay attitude to it? I think it has a freeing attitude to it. And I feel like it's in line with like the L.A. Mexican like shuffling culture too. I feel like that's like a nice transfer over. They have a- Define shuffling. Oh, like the dancing.

The dancing they do to like ED-ED-M-type music, you know what I'm saying? When they're like sliding their feet back and all that. You know what's funny about that is that I don't think I had ever even heard of shuffling. But at one point in back in the day, a couple years ago, there was a clip of Phoenix Flex-in. And he was like blatantly rolling at a music festival shuffling. Shuffling his ass off. And like somebody on our team posted it. The cameraman over here is laughing.

and he hit us up to remove it because when you watched it it was like, bro, you're fucking loaded. You're like gone in this clip, but he's dude, that's an old crazy and shit. I don't even. Yeah, he was going crazy too, bro. Exactly.

Maybe at the raves. Yeah, bro. For sure. Because I went to Paramount High, which is like a lot of, all types of different kinds of Mexicans, right? So that was the first time I was like, oh, okay, I'm over here at the,

the goth tree, but it's like all Mexicans and then it was like the Jolos and it was, you know, multifaceted Mexicans. Oh, multi-layer. And some like cut it. into all parts of the Venn diagram.

They're like a cholo with a Mohawk that listens to EDM and shuffles. There's some ultimate. That reminds me of me like being a kid and trying to balance being like a cool straight edge dude, but then also like I listen to all this rap, but then also I like cannibal corpse and like clearly these things are all like very much at odds with each other. Like none of them would be able to agree with each other. No, I feel that because I was like battle rapping at lunch and then also doing the musical, you know what I'm saying like in theater and

vice president drama club and shit you know so and then meanwhile okay you're at the battle rap event and somebody is like you ain't nothing but an art school theater kid or some shit like that's like a dis and you're like I was just doing that and I'm like I still take your bitch how about that

and you're like rollerblading and then you're like doing ballet you got like all these hobbies and they just don't music save me because I couldn't even really fit into none of the crowds I wasn't cool enough for the cool kids I wasn't tough like you know saying but then when I got in the rap it was just like oh I'm accepted here so music and I

play drums and I'm not in rap you gotta be tough too right not not necessarily because I was more hip hop and plus I played drums in the band and so we had like one of those bands when I went to floren to where when the drum line showed up we was playing like yeah it was like I was like yeah it was like I was like turn it up so that kind of helped me canaan was your hero he really was people just the people don't understand this goes way back when I was out while and out I was like I realized earlier in the day like I have never seen a Nick Cannon movie you never did that is one line never Never saw Love Don't Cost a Thing.

That's a great movie, too. And, like, I realize that. I'm like, man, I hope nobody brings this up while I'm out while and out. Oh, you got to watch a Nick Cannon movie. He's a dope actor, especially in Drumline. At least Drumline. Yeah, at least Drumline. Yeah, at least Drumline.

Basically, him, like, going from, like, high school to college, and then, like, he's, like, this troubled kid, but he's really good in music. So he just goes to a black college and he, like, takes over playing the drums. See, I'm kind of, like, proud of, like, my lack of movie knowledge. He specifically black movie knowledge. He also hasn't seen Get Out. He didn't even know who Key and Peele were. This is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is real.

Yeah, I saw Star Wars a couple years ago. The first time? Yeah, and I felt like I lost something. Like, that was something cool that made me unique for all those years and then it just sort of went away. I think we got to like, get your reaction to some of these movies that you're watching years later. I watched Baby Boy a couple years ago. The first time? How did you feel about it?

Great work, right? Classic. Yeah. There's more on the horizon. So what would you say is like your favorite movie? It's like a classic. Rushmore. Rushmore like with,

yes. I haven't seen that. Yes. Max, whatever his name is. Yes, oh, wow.

I don't know. Rushmore. It's not like, it's a lot of people's favorite movie, actually. I don't think I've seen Rushmore. I've never heard of it. You don't have respect for my culture.

Is that with, are those OR scrubs you're wearing? Yes. Oh, are they? Okay, okay. Which I say all the time when people don't know what I'm talking about. I'm familiar, bro. So what's,

What's this one be about? What's Rushmore about? Honestly, the weird thing about it is that it's about like a junior high age student. He's probably like, I don't know, like 14 or 15 or something. And he like falls in love with his teacher. It's a comedy. Okay. And, yeah, in retrospect, kind of weird.

Okay, so I'll watch Rush. It's not like she bangs them or anything. I'll watch Rushmore. You watch Get Out. Okay. Okay. And we'll talk about it. And playing both at the same time on real loud speaker.

I brought you hot sauce. You fuck with Hot sauce? I do fuck with Hot sauce. More than movies, yeah. Okay. What does it be My boy's hot sauces It's called Daddy sauce

Fermented garlic Fremented Habanero Superfire if you will If you enjoy hot sauces I got Sorry I know Dubo You don't fuck with hot sauce I can't have weight loss surgery

I can't eat hot food What it fucks up your body Yeah it fucks up It rumbles my tummy I don't like it a lot It really messes you up No for real I'll be tired

And it sucks Because I used to love hot food I used to love pizza I can't eat pizza No more like that Dang Sometimes I wish I could just Get off the table

And make sure that They never did it to me In what way Is pizza hot No, it's not hot, but it's just the dough. It just makes me feel sick. I feel like I'm going to throw up real fast. The irony of your name.

I was just going to say that. Wow. Can't eat dough. I can't eat donuts like I used to. This is really good. You tasted? Yeah, that's a great flavor. That's a little kick, but it's not crazy.

Thanks, guys. Hot and funky garlic chili. Yeah. It's not like the hot for nothing. How did you get into me? Because I've seen you, like, I've seen you do a lot of things. How did you get into making hot sauce? What made you want to do that?

Oh, dude's my, like, foodie-ish podcast I do with my boy David's so. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we'll start each episode, bring each other some food to eat, and then it kind of just goes into, like, you know, like aliens and circumcisions, wherever the conversation happens to go.

So we always fuck with hot sauce, and we decided to link up with a hot sauce company and figure it out. And it's fun. We've got a Sereno BFD over here. We've tried on camera. Well, Lush one, the motherfuckett who's going to see you, dog. Let's go. This is a BFD.

I heard this is a hot sauce. You're eating a microwave burrito over there? This is a straight from Taco Bell. Thank you very much. Is it a BRC? It's a BRC from a Taco Bell. And we want an honest reaction. All right, because I've tried hot sauce from Taco Bell.

I've tried fire sauce. Yeah, yeah. On this particular burrito. Uh-huh. We're going to see the comparison. Let's go. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, seductive with it, yeah.

So freaky bite. Uh-huh. It's not just hot to be hot. You can get that garlic hits, you know what? Oh. Thank you, man. Hashtag ad? I think so.

He slayed us all some money before this. Don't worry. We're getting our shit off. I thought it was going to, like, burn me more. I thought this was going to be, like, an embarrassing moment for me. You were like, and y'all have seen me eat a Carolina Reaper before. We did. So I can handle spice.

Is it really? It really seemed to be that much. And a hot chip. But I'm not going to lie. This snack. And there's, like, the afterwards heater-y. Like, it's not overwhelming to the point where it's going to be. going to ruin the meal. I gave him a handy

before the camera's wrong so he could advertise and give you a nice well advertising for this shit. Dudesmerch.com. dudes with a zemurch.com. Go get you some. Go get you some. Because it's hot. People are going to ask why I was making those faces. He was taking the thumbnail photo.

Damn. Yeah. Okay. So I do feel like hot sauce is kind of like the last frontier of like influencer foods. You know, like Steveo has one. Like I feel like a few people over the years have given me one and like, I even thought about it at one point and I was like started looking into it. I'm like, oh my God, this is way too competitive.

Like, because I do love hot toss, but there's a lot of different directions you can go with it. Yeah, people fuck with it, man. And because the food show I do with my boy, we've had episodes where we eat really intense, like spicy food. And those were some of our, you know, of course, most viral moments. So it just kind of made sense. And we just really fuck with food, too. So, you know, it wasn't just some every influencer does this type shit. It was we really enjoy it.

We really like food. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what else? Like, what's a food that we could do? I feel like, like, okay, hot sauce. It's non-perishable. It just, you know, it comes in a glass bottle, like, you know, a burger or a piece of pizza is tough. Like, you got to sell it like right then and there. Like, you know, it's hard for like in the mail order it. You know, this, in theory, you could go. I think we should come out with like our own line of jello shots. You're just looking for an excuse to drink.

No, I'm not drinking. I'm nine days. I'm nine days. Nine days sober. Nine days sober. But you still got the vape. The vape is literally like in your hand. I need something. But now I've had nine days with nothing, man. I feel like a different person, bro. Yeah? And I'm back on the meds.

Oh, that's good. Hey, look at it. Man. How's that going? Great. I feel different. I think you guys don't see the, if you haven't seen it already,

I feel like immense difference. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I feel like a different person. I've been off and on with the medicine because it can make you feel a little spaced out sometimes. But I made a quality decision like, like, though, just gets over and take your mask.

And I feel solid as a rock. There you go. A rock. Huh? No. No. No. No.

We end up using all of our stockpile for a lush. What do you think I'm not? I thought you're telling me to try it. I was like, oh. You could show to get off and it won't like fuck you up. So stop messing with it. Stop jiggling this man's tities.

He's on the right path again. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Tim. Thank you, Tim. Yeah. How did you feel? How did you feel when you saw?

Just stop. Just be nice. He's a nice boy. Stop disrespecting his man. What do you think like is the, the mix up, the confusion kind of from like everywhere that he's been before no jumper and then getting here. What do you think is kind of like rubbing people or they're just not getting it about Doboy like right away? I don't know. I don't know if it's like a not getting Doe Boy thing.

I think how long have you been doing OJumper now? About three months now, I think about three months, about 90 days. I think anytime you hop into a new space, everybody kind of has to get used to just everyone has to acclimate to each other and the different vibes and what vibe Doe might be bringing and whatever was happening. You know what I'm saying like it's just so I guarantee let's say Doboy quit like right now you know what I'm saying even with everything that has transpired and every viral clip I might have seen of him getting his titty jiggled or whatever it's going to be people in the comments like fuck I miss Dobleboy he was warming up he was just blah blah you know just like I was with my ex for like four years

she never got along with my mom and then when I finally broke up with her mom I'm like oh why'd you do that I'm like come on man you know that's always a terrible part about leaving a girl is that your mom inevitably will have developed some sort of relationship with her and she'll be pissed off at you. Like that would be like a huge factor in my mind if I decided I wanted to like just wow out and just leave Lenin and just go live a crazy life again. My mom would be so upset with me. Have you guys ever had this happen? Have you ever dated a chick before and like people that you introduced her to? She stayed cool with them after y'all broke up. But I don't like that. I'm like, once we done, y'all all done. I introduced you. No, I don't play that. I'm a, I'm a breakup by association.

Yeah, like, get out of here. Don't talk to my sister no more. Yeah, good. Unfollow off. That's happened to me, but it's like, it's harder to avoid when your whole friend group slash social life is built around going to the same bar. And then you break up with the girl and she's still at the bar. And your friends are just like inevitably like you're in this merry place. There's so much merriment.

You're like, I know I just kind of said married twice. But like, you know, everybody's just drinking. And it's like, from me, historically, it was like difficult to. to separate that because they're just like going to you're going to see her too you're going to be in the same place and then I mean awkward for a while yeah like I think you have to like you know if your friends really fuck with you like that though they have to be willing to shun her

yeah they have to but that's only if you're but her about because if you don't care they should be able to fuck her and you shouldn't be able to real homies won't no that's like the dirtback homies yeah we move as a team what's I'm done y'all done because then you're going to get comfortable enough to bring another dude around and then just like, man, it's going to really be weird. But if you don't care, you don't care. If you really don't care, like you're showing your tenderness by forbidding it.

But I feel like even when the homies act like they don't care, I know that they do deep down. It's just you're putting on this facade so you look like you give a close. You might not care as much as you're showing to the world. Yeah. But there is a world where you just actually don't care. I think that's all. You're acting like it's impossible to not have feelings for it at a certain point. Believe it or not, some people are like end shit with a girl and they're like happy to see her move on

because it means that she's going to be less. less annoying to you. Yeah, I haven't... He has never... He's never been able to do a clean separation. I fought hard for every relationship that I was in. So if it ended, I always was like, damn it, even if it was my fault.

So I'd just be like... I've never, like, walked away from a relationship, well, maybe a couple where I was just like, man, this bitch's crazy. But for the most part, like in most of the relationships, I'm man, I didn't want them to end and you just be sad. You'd be like...

Okay, can you tell me if you agree with my theory, which is that every man is only allowed to be tender for one woman at a time. Oh yeah. Meaning that, let's say, say I had only been with London

for a year right now and I had a whole fleet of different girlfriends over the last couple years or whatever. And you guys know them because they were here or whatever. Once I enter into a serious,

committed new relationship, I am no longer allowed to say, Moose, you can't fuck with my ex. I agree with you on that. Now, if I'm still heartbroken over, if I'm still kind of fucked up in the head, whatever, then, all right, it's fair for me to say, like,

no, Moose. Like, it's not cool for you to fuck with my ex. But if I have moved on and I'm in a new, relationship, she is back on the market and free game for everyone. Hold on. Wait, I didn't understand it at first. So you're saying Moose, you're saying Moose your home boy, so you and Moose are friends. Yes. So you say that once you move on, you should be okay for your friend to smash your ex. Yes. I totally don't agree.

I totally do. No. What's the point that we're supposed to like, every girl I fuck is now off limits to everybody else? Like, that's insane. That's a pussy hog. Just my friend's circle. And I wouldn't want to mess with none of you. Like, once I see you with a girl, she sits to me forever. I'm never going to be like, yeah, once you stop messing with her. I don't even believe that. Are you gay? No, no. If she's an attractive woman and I've moved on, why

should I continue to be able to monopolize multiple hos? Because my friendship with you would be more important than getting the box from her. And I wouldn't want to risk you tripping. No, but I wouldn't want to risk unless you had underlying feelings and was just fronting to me, I wouldn't want to risk hurting you and being like, damn,

why is dope messing with my ex? It's a million chicks in the world. I'll take it even a step further, is that my current girl should not allow me to forbid my friends to fuck my ex. Like that's a betrayal of so deep. But that's a betrayal of like our current relationship for me to get mad about you fucking with my ex. That's like that's like me saying that like some part of me is still hung up on this girl. Oh, I see.

I see. I thought that was the original scenario. Like should your girl be able to be mad at you for telling the homies don't fuck my ex? I think yeah. I think she should. I do think it's fair for your current boo. to be mad at you for like caring, like worrying about anything. Yeah.

What the heck. This is how I look at it. If I feel like, if I stop messing with a chick and then you want to smash her out, I'd just be like, what, were you looking at her the whole time? Or did you want to smell it? Like, that would just be weird to me. Like, why would you want to smash a chick that you know I smashed? But that's paranoid bullshit that comes from a place of insecurity.

Like, why do you have to assume that I was looking at her like, oh, she's dope? Because I actually could do that right now. Like, let's say you had some super hot girl that you were bringing here all the time. Yes, I am looking at her. Like, damn. She's hot. Like, I would totally fuck her. I'm not going to because you're with her.

But then once we're done, then it's like, hey, open season. Once you say it is. Once he's saying, like, you gave the permission. If me and Lenna and tomorrow, and granted, like, this is the extreme case because, like, 10 years together, you got kids, you own a house together, all that shit. It's like, that's like the ultimate. The most tender excuse for me to say, like, nah, nobody can ever fuck with Lena. But if me and Lena split up and then a year later, I'm in a committed relationship,

I don't think that I should be able to tell you. that you can't fuck with. You absolutely should. That's your wife, man. It's my ex-wife in the situation of laying out of asshole. Hell no. That's just like that Derek Fox situation with Matt Barnes. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Derek Fisher and Derek Fisher. Derek Fisher. So Derek Fisher and Matt Barnes were both teammates on a team. Once Matt Barnes, like, stopped messing with his ex-wife that he has kids with, Derek Fisher started messing with her and wiped her and married her. But they're not even real friends, right? They're just on the same team. But, I mean, you're teammates.

I mean, they had a decent, had a decent enough relationship. That just means you got drafted to the same. team. That's like you work at the same supermarket. So you would have no problem. We work together so we're technically co-workers even though you are the boss. Let's just say you divorced Lennon and then six months later I'm dating her and then I marry her

that wouldn't bother you? Okay. In reality, would it bother me? Yeah. Okay. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? That's me having been with her for 10 years and having kids with her. Like Matt Bards. Which is a little different. And that's also,

I don't want you around my kids. No offense. But I think you should be on some kind of registry. So it's a doughboy specific thing that we came down to. No, but context matters. 10 years is different than a one year. I feel like I hear what you're saying. I do hear that.

A year, it's like, you know, but also we all know that a year, you can have just as fiery a relationship for a year. Then in 10 years, you know, realistically in 10 years by the end of it, a lot of times the relationship has kind of got to the point where it's not so passionate, you know. I just got to the point because I've seen situations go bad between. friends over chicks and stuff. And that's why I said, like, maybe I'm a little bit extreme. When I say once I see you with a chick, that sits because I no longer look at her like that. Like, I don't want to see if stuff don't work out. I just, as my friend, I don't ever

want to go there because I don't ever want to make it weird. I agree with doughboy on that. I'm not going to lie. Usually like, just like once, especially, and I feel like you can have more than one girl that you're tender dick over. You could have favorite hose. I think up to three. Now, if it's a bob and you don't care, this is like, she's for everybody. Okay, that's different. But many of us wife bops. We've got two thumbs and wife bops. Wifebop, wife, wife, wife.

The Lentastray is crazy. Honestly, I feel like even, I think it depends on the stage of life you're in too, right? Because my ex was probably, I only had a couple serious relationships, right? So my ex, I was for four years, significant amount of time, but it was so long ago. So like, and I was completely over it pretty soon after it ended. So if the homie was like, yo, can I potentially take her out and probably smash, I probably would have been cool with that. You know what I'm saying?

And I'm at a point now where it's been so long, if they got married, I would probably be like, I'm happy for y'all. You know what if he didn't consider you, didn't it call you? No, you got to go through with it. You got to get permission. You got to get permission. You got to get signed off. At the very least.

Can I throw out an extreme version of this that I went through? Let's hear it. I dated a girl for probably four years, uh, four, four months. It was far less significant. But it was like about as intense as it could possibly get during this four months. It was the best. We had a big nasty breakup. It got real ugly, terrible shit, whatever.

And then I'm literally after we break up, and really, she left me. Like, she left me in a way that I had never really had to deal with before. It really made me feel like a piece of shit as a human being caused me to do a lot of like self-exploration in my brain because I felt very much like inferior to her new dude. and then so I'm literally depressed for like maybe like a month maybe like a month and a half I'm fucked up in the head fast forward like two years later two of my homies that I ride BMX with every day they go to a party they get blackout drunk together this girl's at the party they end up fucking her together and apparently at one point like one of them they were like

like fucking together and at one point like because they're all doing coke and shit they're like getting super loose with it one of them is in the shower fucking her from behind in the shower she's on her period she reaches down and takes some of her period blood and and eats it off her fingers yeah this was your queen and then they were all like hey hey how how's adam what the what is that i'm talking to adam lately i know i know and this is a girl that i took serious enough that I was depressed like and by this time because it's many years later when this like two years later it's like I'm not hung up on her at all but I still like when they told me that they did that because like they're still

drunk they show up at the house at like 11 p.m. And one of them is super polite and quiet and like probably would have preferred to not tell me he was probably like hell embarrassed. The other one just like yeah bro 22. We fucked your ex together. You know, he just laid. and I'm like, I spend 20 minutes being like, you're full of shit.

Bro, I know you're lying, bro. Like, obviously you're lying. No, I'm not lying. We fucked her together. She ate her period. I'm like, and slowly it starts to set in like, this is not a troll.

He's telling me some real shit that actually happened. Was it like a clarifying moment? Like, damn, that bitch was kind of dirty the whole time. Like, you know what I'm saying? Your friends ain't shit. I'm sure it hurt in the moment. I had no idea that she was a slut. Before me,

Before me, another dude that I knew had dated her and lived with her for probably like eight years. And as far as I knew, never cheated. And then somehow, like, they break up and somehow I swoop in. I'm not knowing that she's a fucking whore like this. But when we broke up, all my friends, everyone in Long Beach that was around. But we didn't want to tell you. You didn't know what it's just what a psycho piece of shit, whore she was. They're like, Adam, like, we didn't want to tell you.

tell you because you seem so happy, but that bitch is fucking crazy. You gotta tell the homie. You're like, tell me. Maybe she was heartbroken about losing you, bro, and she was trying to get you back by smashing all the home. On her face stuff. The guy that she was with that she left me for, she was still with him when these two dudes fucked her.

They had a kid together. She's not a shit. So she might have been cheating on you, too. Yeah, well, with the guy that she ended up being with. She was a terrible person. But your friends and I think they were all. All three of them were wrong. She was wrong for fucking your friends

and they was wrong with fucking ex. But I believe them. That they really, because like we kept our relationship like real low key and serious. So like by the time all my friends found out that I was with this girl, they kind of like already were in a position

where if they told me, they knew it was gonna fucking hurt my feelings and fuck me up because I was really like every night with this girl for like four months straight. And you probably wouldn't believe them if they tried to tell you. Yeah. There's always that chance that you lose the home.

What are you doing those situations when you know the chick, good for the homie, but they can't see it. It's weird, right? I tell the homie, I'm not going to lie. I'm the homie that tells the homie, and if he's not fucking with me because of it, I just kind of let it play out, and then eventually he comes back and he's like,

Moose, you was right. But they're always going to be like, nah, bro, you jealous, man. Exactly. They'll fuck around. They'll fuck her. For sure. And then she ain't, man, that's absolutely happening. And by the time that he figures out that she ain't shit for himself, he'll probably

already have forgot about the fact that Moose man tried to warn him. It's just like, it's just going to be a big boy. I don't remember it like that, you know. Dang. But, yeah, I would feel wrong going to bed, like, man, the homies just getting done dirty, and I know, and I haven't told him. I was just, I can't sit right.

That just sucks that they waited until he got out of the way. Man, we didn't know how to tell you, bro. Yeah, let me get cheated on first and then tell me. Four months, that's crazy for you to fall that deep in four months. No, four months is plenty of time. That's plenty. Yeah. It's so bad.

Oh, God. Plus romantics. Come on, too. It doesn't really seem that familiar anymore because I feel like maybe four months wouldn't be enough for me. But, all right, this is the thing. It was, right. It was like within a year of me moving to L.A.

So, like, when you move from one place or another, especially if you don't have, like, a real built-in social network or whatever, like, for me now, if I moved to New York, I was like, I'd be fine. I'm going to make tons of friends and I have tons of people to hang out with. When I moved to Long Beach, I just, like, didn't have that much, like, of a support structure besides, like, my three or four other homies that rode bikes.

So it's like, I not only, like, fell deeply in love with this girl, but it kind of, like, filled in a lot of blanks. that also existed in my life. So I felt like it was worse than any four-month relationship could get me at this point. You clung to her as like a support system and support being type of girlfriend.

Finally, someone was making you feel at home and like you belong. She was a dirty, sense of normal things. That's crazy. You find out after the relationship that she's lying about everything.

Oh, my God. She told me all these companies that she did grabby design for that she modeled for, etc. Afterwards, you just found out it's all fake. So she's like female loose cannon pretty much. Literally.

That's crazy You dated the female So that's why I'm fucked up People don't understand That's always tough to deal with When you deal with a chicken And you find out that she is nothing Like what you had her in your mind

There's like how the fuck did I miss this This whole time That shit hurts I remember one time we went to the bar And there's like skateboards On the wall of the bar That weren't normally there And she told me that this is my art show

Wow This is all art that I did That they're like This is like a premiere From my line of skateboard and then like I find out there that's just not true she's actually crazy she's seriously crazy those are actually the psychos

that was crazy crazy but out of the drop of a dime and just lied to you somehow I didn't get it did you start your villain arc after this relationship is that when you kind of just went cold I did fuck like all her roommates there's go shit like two roommates and bang both of them that felt kind of great

oh wait so wait you fucked her roommates before you found out that they fucked her no I found out before that yeah but like right after we broke up because then she moved out of the apartment with her roommates to go live with new guy who was like rich. They were just like, they put over there and fuck the roommates.

So I fuck her bum-ass roommates. It's time. All the roommates were like, get on this air mattress. But he could bury your blood tonight. They're kind of like unattractive, but like I did it anyway. Yeah, out of spite.

Hold on. I just want to make sure and just check the room one quick. I'm 46. I've never seen the chick eat her period blood. Have you all ever seen that in real life? Yeah.

Yeah. No. No. No. In a section, you've seen that? Besides that, no. Probably. Oh.

I'll say so. Yeah. That's like. It's a different level. That shit porn stars don't do. Yeah. So you're just a regular girl. That's crazy.

Yeah, yeah. They would. Literally, you can't do that all the way, man. Oh, Lord. Well, hot sauce. Nice dark red daddy sauce.

Nice dark red daddy sauce there for you. Let's make a hot sauce and call it period. That would sell like crazy. Actually. That's like the sexy red shit. She had something like that. She had like a lipstick line. So wait, okay.

You have been with your lady for how long? Let's see, we've been married for eight years. We've been together for this for 2026. It'll be 15 years in September. Wow, wow. Yeah. Does it feel good? Do you have any second thoughts?

Anything we should know about? It's too late now, man. No, no, no. It's dope. We've been locked in. And look, I was giving you shit for being in love after four months. But this was a situation where after I had been holl and out, like, I hung out with her. And I was like, okay, I text the homie immediately.

I'm like, yo, I'm in love. This is different. You know what I was saying? After the first, I was like, yo, it's different. I'm in love. After the first date? Yeah, yeah. Wow. Pretty much. I mean, of course I was being, you know, like, I was exactly. Caught up in the moment a little bit. But 15 years later, you knew. 15 years later, two babies later, bang, bang. How about that? How soon is it that you guys know? So did you know, like, how long did it take from when you met Lennon that you was like, yeah?

To have a kid? No, that I'm going to be with her. Like, this is the woman I'm going to marry. Because he knew it after the first date. When did you know? I mean, I like, met her and then maybe like six months later, we're like actually dating. and then begins like the slow process then like at some point you stop cheating and then you're like oh it's like getting a little bit more serious I'm not fucking other women I'm like I'm not cheating that's crazy

like maybe I really care about her you wake up with another one like do I feel bad about this? I feel a little else about this it's really just you get caught a bunch of times like if I never got caught I felt bad it makes you feel really bad and then you're bad cheater

you were popping when you met your wife then you're already pretty popping I had already kind of a couple years at least yeah I had some time to just like a whole out and like it luckily for me the the whole year of my life kind of was synonymous with when I was like on tour and the YouTube shit had been popping for a little bit so I had time to really get out my system but you never ran into those feelings like you know is she messing with me for me or you know what I'm saying does she like Timothy Dahligetto better you know what's

exactly yeah like you know the subs the thing about she she she didn't know who I was when we met we kind of had like a year of just communicating you know what I'm saying because she was she was it was long distance she was Canadian so we had some time to kind of get to know each other before we even really actually. So we were communicating before the first like date. You know me? Um, so and for her, I never felt that because I'm like, she's dope. Her, her vibe was always like, look, man, uh, I got my own shit going on. Like, she had a nail salon in Canada. Like, she had money already. Like, she had her own shit going on. You know what I'm saying? So it was like, that was never really in the back of my mind. And in the back of my mind,

like if that was the case and we broke up, then, okay, it is what it is. And we broke up. It was worth a try for sure. Yeah, because I definitely had to try. I used to be. like I would never try a long distance relationship until I met her and I thought if I don't at least give it a try, I'll like regret it forever, you know? But don't I feel like the era of YouTube that you come from is the same as me in a sense where it's like if you have a new girlfriend, you're making a YouTube video about that. You're just like putting it out there. I was like a huge percentage of people I know now are not really just like laying everything out there for the world. But back in the day, especially like the daily, you were a daily vlogger at one point right, right? Yes, here's the thing too, right?

I learned my lesson low-key because I was daily vlogging with my ex. So I kind of was able to take from that, like maybe I shouldn't be so, shouldn't put all of it out so fast. And also, you know, my wife, when we first started dating, I knew she was a private person. She didn't fuck with the camera like that. She was trying to be on camera. So I kept it pretty low-key for a while until I felt she was comfortable, you know what I'm saying? So I was like, okay, let me not. Take the camera out every day like I was doing before and just chill, see what's going on.

Test the temperature a little bit. Let me ask you something. You're out in public. You're at the fucking yogurt shop. And you see a white man in a relationship with an Asian queen. Yeah, yeah. Is there a little bit of you that? Because this is like a real thing in the black community.

If a black dude sees me with a beautiful black woman. Oh, we're hot. We're on your ass. Like, even if. nothing is said, you can cut the tension with a knife. I think it's worse the other way around. I think the white guy is more mad at the black guy with the

bad white white. Some black guys who might not be like super in touch with their blackness might not care, but if you are a real black guy, you're looking at me a little. There's always a part of me. When I see a black one with a white man, I'm like, what the fuck's you doing with you? Well, look, from my experience, well, first, let me, let me speak on that because, like, as, because my wife is

half black. And, uh, so I've never had anybody angry at me about. that. If anything, I've got like some complimenti compliments. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, he got himself a sister. Oh, okay. Right? Right. Like, oh, hey, where you find her at? That type of shit, right? And, or you might get the occasional, he don't know what to do with all that ass girl, something like that, right? But it's never been on some, like, standoffishness, right? Right. Um, where I feel like, you know, if someone saw you with a black girl, have you ever had that experience, though? Not really. See, what I'm saying? For me, if I saw a

white dude with an Asian girl. No, I'm not salty about it. I just think maybe just growing up in L.A., everybody's just mixing out here. Everybody's swirling. I don't feel any type of way about it. I do pull her aside and be like, are you good? Are you okay? Do you know him?

Bleak twice. Are you being sex traffics? You know what I'm saying? Just to make, I check, just to make sure she's good. Yeah, yeah, hey, come here, come in. Are you okay? You know what I'm saying? And then if it's all good.

That's true. Hand her a piece of paper with a safe word on. Yeah. You good? Yes. No, Mark. Yeah, yeah. Scream no jumper if you're in trouble. I think that's like the most common, like, couple is white guy, Asian women in America today. Like interracial couples. Well, like a lot of the most successful white men, like the Mark Zuckerbergs of this world, you know, somehow.

Snatching up Asian white. That's what they need, you know. I think it's a college thing too, you know. There's a lot of Asians in college with the nerds and stuff. White men and Asian women just kind of come together. Yeah, they come together. at the colleges, yeah. Like, I'm sure there's people that are salty about it on, on, on, whenever, whenever

there's a couple that's mixed, you know. Right. Who do you think cares the least? What race cares the least about that? Well, my type of whites, but. Yeah, because the whites, you see a black guy with a hot white white. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and I think he thought about like a lot of other.

The ex-comment section is not going to like that. Yeah. I mean, you know, Mexicans be tripping over, you know, our girls dating black dudes. I think it's probably Mexican. Nah, nah, maybe tripping sometimes. I just want to catch feelings about white guys dating black women, then the black dudes should actually start dating black women. I think they care the least because they be exploring more than other races. I mean, black women feel shunned by black men oftentimes.

They do. They take that shit personal. Yes. For all the black queens. I got you. Don't worry. And Tim, before he got married, obviously. Yes, I mean, I did wife a half once.

Shout out to the half years. I'm taking that out away from him. So Tim, let me ask you this. You've been in YouTube since, what, 06? 06? Yeah. 06. How does it feel to be one of the forefathers of this YouTube shit?

You got to dub in. You were the first YouTuber I ever saw on YouTube, by the way. Well, damn. And when I was talking to Super Hot Fire the other day, who basically like was kind of like the first young, lit black dude on YouTube, your name came up when he was listing off his early influences. So that kind of says a lot. Well, crazy shit.

First time I met Super Hot Fire. Shout out to Deshaun Ra, man. Good dude. And I feel like definitely an innovative guy with his sketches back in the day. first time I linked up with him, he was like, bro, I used to watch your vlogs every day. You know what I'm saying? So I know, yes, I've been doing it for a long time. This will be, you know, my 20th year on YouTube.

That's so far. That's crazy. It's dope, man. Look, I feel like I owe a lot to YouTube. You know what I'm saying? I got on that shit just because I was just, you know, I was out here just trying to be an actor. You know, I was trying to see whatever way I could find my way in there. Before YouTube, before I found YouTube, I was on Myspace uploading rap songs.

You know what I'm saying? Like just trying to figure out how to get on. And I think I hopped on pretty, I mean, obviously, like really early. So that helps. It also helped that there weren't a lot of people starting off back then. They didn't know what the fuck it was. And it helped that like, you know, there's a whole Asian community of people who, you know, they didn't see Asian people on the TV or movies or, you know, rapping or being stupid like I was.

So a lot of people identified with me and were like, like, okay, finally I'm seeing somebody that reminds me. It's like Bobby Lee and you pretty much was the one that was popping damn near around that time. Like, you were technically on YouTube before they even started monetizing for people, right? I was making no money back there. There was no such thing as monetization back then. So you were just doing it for the love of the game. I was going to just try to let me see if this shit might do something, you know?

I was just, I would take little stupid webcam videos, put it on my MySpace to see if like, oh, okay, let me make the homies laugh, make my little MySpace friends laugh. And then I started to hit these like most viewers. lists on YouTube and I thought, okay, this, this might, this might be useful. How old were you when this shit was happening? Don't worry about all that, dog. So when did you, when did you know? It was permanently young.

Yeah, he hasn't aged one big. Don't make me admit that I'm 56. How far into your, your YouTube career did you know, you know what, I can do this full time and this could be my bread and butter? It started to catch some juice just when I was getting views. and then when the money started coming in a little bit, because I was still in college when my first couple videos started doing well, and when dudes were like, oh, hey, YouTube guy, you know what I'm saying?

And then I was still working at California Pizza Kitchen, slangin pizzas, and then I had got fired from CPK the same week where I won this contest, a YouTube contest that got me like 15 Gs, that I was like, okay, I can actually use some money to live off for a little bit. And just do this. And just go hard. And then so I just started going hard. And then I haven't, you know,

and I haven't worked a real job since. And that was probably like 2010. Dang. That's a beautiful thing. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing. Look at us, man. You know, hey, wow. 20 years later.

Do you miss a MySpace? Do you think like a MySpace could come back and be successful? Because I always look at that. It still exists. Yeah, it does. But I just saw that news coming out that Blink 102 dropped like their new single on MySpace, which I got to a little. assume that my space like gave them money to do yeah to revamp yeah because i i remember when uh what's the tom sold

it and then like another company try to revive it's very bare buttons though when i wouldn't go on there i don't think i have access to the email that i used to use for my space yeah like some of your photos will be gone and stuff like that like you can log in but but i felt like that was like the best uh social media like with the customization or you're typing in the codes and changing the backgrounds online now top eight remember the top yeah i had top 16 top 30 literally blew up because it eradicated that. Yeah. That specifically was the thing that so many people hated about MySpace.

And then once you got to Facebook and everything was clean and true, it's set up for you. Yeah, it's like, oh, it's just photos. And then like, you know, because remember how basic Facebook was? Yeah, yeah. That's why I hated it as a kid. And MySpace was so much cooler. Like go to the layout website, copy a layout code.

But take it back. Can I ask this? Was the most offended you've ever been as an Asian person in your life by anything? in pop culture that made Asian people look bad or whatever. Was it crazy rich Asians? Was it China Mac? Was it the Shane Gillis comments that he got canceled off SNL for? Like a popping.

Was it Andrew Yang? No, no. You're saying a bad representation of Asian community. It's just like anything that made you feel like this is, like what was your George Floyd moment? There had to be, I mean, look, of course, I wouldn't say there was anything pop culturally, how I can remember right off the bat, that I was like,

I'm highly bothered by this, right? I mean, of course, you know, there was the wave of like during the stop Asian hate when it did seem like there was an upscale of attacks on Asian people, like randomly. And I was like, normally I don't make a video or statement on something unless I feel like I'm adding something new to the conversation or else I feel like

I'm just saying shit people want to hear. Yeah. But I did feel like, I needed to just be like, hey, guys, like, what the fuck is going on? You know what I'm saying? Because I feel like stop Asian. Hey, was kind of short-lived because at some point, the Asians who were raising this concern realized that it was all black people who were beating up the old Asian people.

I mean, it was like, it was all types of shit going on, right? And there was one case specifically where there was like an old Asian man that randomly got tackled by a young black dude. And it's like, you know, but at the same time, you know, you can't you can't attach one thing to everybody you know what I'm saying but for me it was just like all right let's let's I felt like I only needed to say something because I know like sometimes you get fed an algorithm and you might not see what's happening on other people's timelines and I know that I have a pretty diverse following so I wanted to be like hey y'all just in case you didn't know uh Asian people getting beat up yeah probably stop yeah so maybe uh hey let's uh let's stop that and it was COVID you know, a president was saying it's the Chinese virus, you know, there was a lot of bad press for agents around that time. I was just watching something about how the lab leak thing was like total bullshit. And that it was only really pushed through because it helped to kind of like obscure the fact that Trump was the one who like rushed the vaccines through.

Interesting. You like created like more noise around that, the lab leak. Yeah, I've heard yeah, comparing things to that. You're an exotic Asian too because you tie. I am, I am, Southeast Asian. Yep, yep. That's hard though. That's good.

Let me ask you this, Tim. You do a lot of different stuff, right? Can I waterfall that? What? Yeah, for sure. Thanks. It's just where when you didn't let you get the blind. This is a personal.

All right. So you do a lot of things. You do music. We do all in now. You do a podcast. Shout out, no chaser. You do acting. You do all these things.

Money doesn't matter. But you can only do one of these things for the rest of your life. Out of all the things you do. Which one are you doing and why? Man, you know what? I think after a long time of doing all types of shit, you know, like, you know, I talked to you recently. I've been trying to write a movie for like the past three years. Oh, word.

No, no, him. No, word. That's a bout, no, jumper. And I finally got my shit written, right? And now I'm like, and I actually might, I'm getting the, moving the puzzle pieces to get it made. And I'm like, oh, man, it'd be so easy if I was just rich and I could just get this shit done, right? and I'm having so much fun figuring out the filmmaking process after making a little like five minute sketches on YouTube.

So now it's like I'm taking it. I'm trying to do this on such a larger scale. Like I love making music, right? Like I really do, right? Traffic. Bars and shit like that too. And the people that fuck with the music enjoy the music. But I feel like for me I really do, I think through everything I found out,

one of the most fulfilling things is when you make someone laugh and you feel like, okay, you really made their day and you really, you know, took them out of whatever slump they might have been in. So if I feel like if I can help someone escape and have them just, you know, as cliche as it sounds, just have like a brighter day, feel better, have a little laugh, yuck it up a bit.

Then, you know, I would just make movies, bro. Movies, that's fire. Is that in reference to the high school sucks movie? Because out of all the questions that were sent to me when I posted that were doing a paw with you, that was the one that was most requested. That is. Is it dead in the water?

is what the homie's ass. That's what they're asking. So to get familiar with the lore, Adam 22, Um, back, high school sucks the music. I see like a Reddit post about how high school sucks. High school sucks. Why is there a high school redit?

It's just called high school. It's just every high schooler on earth. That's why it's relatable, bro. High school sucks musical. So back in like 2012, uh, me and the homies had put out a couple viral music videos. There's one called Kings of MySpace and some other shit. So we got the opportunity through a film company

They gave us a little bag and we were like, let's make a musical about high school, but like make songs about shit that people don't normally talk about. Like, were you losing your virginity and then shit like that, right? Jay Cole, who beat us to it. Yeah, right?

So then getting boners in class and shit like that. So we did the whole thing. I wrote like 80% of the music, we recorded a whole ass album, we filmed this thing, but because it was such a small bag, we ran out of money, right? So, and we didn't know, we were like stupid,

like, I don't know, 19 year olds, 20 year olds, we signed a stupid-ass contract. And we were like, yo, we need more money. Movie company wasn't trying to give us any more money. So it just never got done. And then so they, since they had the rights to it, it sat on a shelf for like years. Years later, another company bought the rights,

gave us money to finish it. We finished it. But then they also never put it out. Wow. So fast forward to now, literally last few months, my boy, Pedro, P. Pedro Flores, He just recently found like, oh shit, it's been long enough.

Look through like a loophole in the contract. He's like, I can probably get this shit back. So he's been having little screenings even though we made this shit like 15 years ago. You feel me? 10, 15 years ago. So he's trying to see like what's good now that we got two B. Now we got like all types of different ways to get it out. We're trying to figure out a way.

So it's not dead in the water. That's all they wanted to know for show. 16 years ago, the intro theme was uploaded. So this is like not a new thing. So yes, 16. Six million views, too. So at some point, people were very excited about it. At some point, yes.

It's got to see a lot of day, man. Behind the scenes of the YouTube stars trailer has 80 million views. Like, come on, man. He's going crazy. That was me clipbaited people more. No, for sure. Yeah, yeah. That's what all the comments on that video say, but it weren't.

You the OG of the shit. Yo, is there a certain extent to which you feel like YouTube is just like kind of dead as opposed to like how it used to be? Because I'm kind of constantly reminded about the fact that it used to be so much easier to get views in the early days. And now it just feels so unbelievably competitive in comparison. Yeah, I mean, it is because, you know, back then, like I said, there wasn't a whole lot of people.

There weren't as many people doing it, right? And now also you got like TikTok, you got Snapchat. You got all these different avenues to get your shit out. It used to be like the only option was YouTube, right? Yeah. So you drops it on something on YouTube. Everybody's going there nowadays. And YouTube actually has like restrictions in comparison to TikTok.

where like TikTok, it's ad-free. You're sitting on your phone. It's so easy. You skip to the next thing. It's like nothing. Whereas YouTube in comparison, you have to watch ads. Average YouTube clip is like longer.

Granted, they have shorts and everything now. But in terms of like getting people to watch long form shit, it just feels so much more difficult. I know. Like, you can't even send somebody at YouTube LinkedIn. I'm going to click it. But whereas you send somebody a real and you feel like it's kind of rude if they don't click it, right?

No, for sure. It's so little commitment. 40 seconds. If I do a 10 minute vlog. It's like me ask you to read a book. I know, literally. These phones got fucked up, bro. And that's the thing.

And it doesn't translate, right? I'll post a clip of a... You know, you post a clip of a podcast. It'll get two million views. But nobody's like, let me go watch the whole episode. See what they're talking about. I saw the best part right here. Exactly.

The highlights. No one gives a fuck. And now, like, people used to just clip stuff because it was just like they liked it and they were fans of it. And now clipping is this huge business. I know. And it's kind of crazy because you're like

paying people. to clip content so that they will like maybe go watch your live stream. And like, I don't care if you watch my fucking live stream for eight hours. You're contributing like 10 cents, 20 cents to the bottom line. Like it's just so like not really worth it. But like when I think about how much stuff was going viral like, you know, in 2016, 2017, 2018, it was like all the time. But like, you know, it wasn't, there was no like mechanism to make it happen.

Yeah. It's like creating that ecosystem, the lore of like, oh, everywhere I go. Every time I open up this app, all I see is Adam 20, too and that's kind of what the clippers effect is I feel like it's like clav I can't get them out of my fucking head it's because there's a million clippers people just be doing shit just for clips now you know what I'm saying it's like we're not

even talking about nothing let's just talk about what turns into a good clip you know let me ask both of you guys this because I know you guys both might have a little bit more insight than Moose and I do you guys know off rip like when you see a video that you're about to upload like yeah this is for sure going viral I know that it is like is it something that you know

or is it something that you just throw everything and guess what sticks And it's today the most random time. I mean, with my content, it's mostly like, this person talks about this. And I can kind of judge, like, how famous is that person or how interesting is that person to people? And then the thing that they're talking about, how interesting is that thing. So sometimes I'm a little surprised. Like, I was surprised that the Adrian Bruner talking about if he'll ever quit alcohol.

That got like 300K on like a day or two. I was like a little surprised by that. But also when I posted it, you know, I kind of know that like that's sort of like the main thing that people are fascinated. by with him. So it's like, I'm usually not that surprised, but what will be surprising is over time, six months later, you see a clip that was like not a big deal when you posted it. And then like all of a sudden people like really care. And you're like, oh, like that was like more impactful than I realized. Or you'll get like an influx of mean comments. I'm like, oh, everyone's going to be a chink today. Oh, I hit an algorithm. Some TikTok went viral.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. We let motherfuckers are mean today. That means I hit someone's algorithm. the baby let's go. And I haven't seen you do a thing in a while where like something happens to somebody and you drop like the rewind clip like Vlad. Because I remember you did that like one time and everybody gave you like a bunch of flak for somebody dying or something. I used a lot, but it feels, I mean, Vlad still doesn't. Yeah, he still re-rocks it when someone dies for sure.

It's kind of like worth it because it's good to just have that footage in the algorithm again. But then at the same time, like you get so much shit for it. Even though I disagree with the reason why they're talking shit, but it doesn't change the fact that like it will just produce like a huge outflow of and and no matter like the more well targeted the clip is like if if a rapper dies from taking pills and then we re-upload a clip of that rapper talking about taking pills i take 80 a day and if he will ever die or whatever like from this thing like which is like it's so well suited to like doing a throwback clip that it's just so obvious to do it but you know the more targeted it is the more that people will be

horrified. That being said, it's like everyone else is going to do it for you. You know, like everyone else. If this clip of this guy who just died, like, if there is a clip about fucking Oliver Tree taking a helicopter ride, it is going to be an insanely viral tweet

slash Instagram post, etc. But if you as the person who did that interview upload it, it's just like, you're just going to get such a negative reaction. And like, for me, I don't even really think about it. Like, you know, I don't have somebody on the team where I'm like, hey, you got to find a throwback clip per day, which we've done that in the past, but it's just, I don't know, it feels like a lot of effort

for stuff that, like, usually it doesn't really move the needle. And then if it does move the needle, it's because of something like horrific or sad or fuck you out, the hate that comes with it too. Yeah. Yeah, like I saw all of retreat talking about like, oh, this is what's going to be in my will in like a podcast. Like that's going to come out and super viral, yeah. Any of you guys know him?

No. I mean, I had an ex that used to listen to him a lot. Really? Yeah. was like kind of a little happy. He actually had some very, like, you know, because she's a fan, so that means like my ex will be sad that he passed away. You know, it's kind of like that type of thing.

Oh, my God. There's actually, there's a very edgy looseman take right there. I'm just being honest. No, there's actually like some like really like eerie clips coming out now about him talking about like when, you know, if and when he dies, like his music sales will probably go up and, you know, talking about ways he's going to leave to his kid's stuff. And it's just like, damn, that was kind of forecast.

Yeah, he set up a grant, they said, where it's like he's not going to give any money to his family. It's all going to go to like up-and-coming artists and stuff. Yeah, that's pretty cool. It's weird to think about, like, you know, if I die tomorrow, like, bro, you know how many times I've talked about dying on here? Yeah, I talk about death so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love talking about it. And then they're going to be like, see, he spoke it into existence.

Every rapper that gets killed, like, you see him. You got to watch what you're saying. He said he was going to die one day, and he died one day. And they have websites that basically will, like, search the transcripts of all your YouTube videos. Because sometimes that's occurred to me in the past, like, how did somebody remember that there was a clip from five years ago? this guy talking about this and then he died or whatever but like you know like they don't even have to like really like there's like entire databases where they can search your transcripts so they don't have to be a big fan they could just that makes a lot more stuff yeah which is that's

kind of freaky we need to get on that yeah look if i die man just make sure the Asian jokes are good jokes and not basic shit i think creative please just make sure the jokes are creative This should be so easy sometimes, dog. Give me a good joke if I die. Me doing the eulogy. Tim was a great man, but... Scary about a look. I do it for you.

Here's what you don't make. Probably died in a car accident. This will probably choke on some dogs. His eyes are really close now. Hey, okay, bang, bang. Not bad. I'm looking down at Tim in his casket the same way that Tim used to look down at his tiny shriveled penis.

There you go. Something like that. Basic shit, I can do better. Right. Do better. It sold him the right way. I can't believe you just said that. Wow.

I don't know what got him. Was it the MSG and the orange chicken or was it the Kung Fu? Okay. I mean, it's just, I'm just trying to think I'm going to let the loaded gun on said. Bruce Lee, son. We're following your direction. Also, MSG is not that bad for you. That's what I heard too.

reading that. Yeah, I heard that too. Really? It's not. Yeah, it's like jumping in the pool after you eat. It's just a myth. Really? But now, I feel like when you eat it though, you'd be hungry. Isn't MSG the thing that makes you hungry right again? That's just a bad thing. No, because when you eat tiny food, you be hungry again. Like, I want some of it. That's just me. I am stuffed when I eat Chinese food. Stuff when you eat. Egg food. When I eat Chinese food, it's either like me and my wife order like an absurd amount of it off of some spot on postmates and it's like way too much to eat and I eat more than I should eat. Or this is only happening like two times since I worked here,

but I'll stop at that fucking Panda Express on the way back. And it's got to be like 1,600 calories for the fucking meal. It's so much food. And it doesn't feel like a lot. You just scarf it down. But that is like your whole day is worth of calories right there. Side note, I don't know if y'all know. I'm going to put y'all up on some fat boy game.

I know you know. I probably know. The barbecue brisket. Oh, I was just going to say that. It's so good. Brother. It just came out. It's great.

It's better than the orange chicken, bro. It's better than the orange chicken. It's better than orange chicken. I got some, like, spicy chicken from one in Vegas the other day when we were doing interviews. We went to a Pan-Express. I got some spicy shit. It was so fucking hot. It's a dynamite shit.

Yeah, yeah. That was one they got ever. Get that barbecue brisket. We're up on game. I also fucking Panda Express. You know what I'm saying? Like, people would be like, it's not real Chinese food. Like, obviously, you know what I'm saying?

But also in the same way, like, we live in L.A., you can get some amazing authentic tacos and you go to Taco Bell and, get some amazing fucking gorditas as well Mexican pizza. Chipotle is good for what it is. I think exactly

what, you know, Mexican food is, but I mean, it's a good version of it. It's two different types of shit. Exactly. I think Americanized Chinese and Italian food

is better than the real deal. Wow. Hot tanks. Oh, whoa. I mean, listen, if you go to China, if you like Chinese food in America,

you'll be massively led down. There are no... It's no similarity. Fire, though. Really? No offense. I want to know more about this. Go to China and try to find orange chicken.

Yeah, my boy who went to China. You would never find it. So soups and things like that. Really? Like a lot of Mexican food. Is the chalmane and the rice at least good out there and the broccoli beef? I mean, from my experience, I don't know that I saw like any of those things. It would depend, right?

It would depend because there's also a thing where it's like Chinese food that was invented out here is also now it's like you'll go to, I don't know, to so much time and be like, okay, we have American Chinese. Yeah. Oh, okay. They'll do it really good, right? Okay. So it really depends. It's like it's taking on a life of its own where, you know, you can find good shit. You can find the right shit, but like authentic, you know, authentic Chinese food wherever you're

at is probably not going to be what you're used to, you know. Yeah. Chad GBT confirms that you might find it at American-style Chinese restaurants that catered to tourists or expats or at restaurants that are serving overseas Chinese cuisine. But for the most part, the average. restaurant in China. Not even just orange chicken, but that like breaded fried shit, they don't

do it. They don't have it. Tim, can I get your support in the Yoshinoya hate? I went there recently. I just moved to L.A. Not too long ago. From Sacramento. Yeah, he's funny from my backyard. Okay, okay, okay. That was the worst restaurant I've ever been to.

The worst food I've ever paid for and actually eaten. Panda Expresses... Michelin Star. Yeah. It's like Gordon Ramsey cooked Panda compared to that. I haven't been in Yoshanoia. And probably since I was located, which is when it used to be good. Okay.

So I couldn't even, I couldn't even tell it. I went to Yoshinoa a bunch of times in Japan, and it's great. It's simple. It's like basic ass Japanese food. And they don't have like literally anything that's on the menu in America. Oh yeah. I heard Yoshinoi in Japan is completely different. And it's respectable.

It's like 7-Eleven. But it's like really like cheap standard, like basic, you know, fucking soup or like rice or chicken, whatever. Like basic shit. That's how it was here, but it was just like tweaker food. too. I hear it's ghetto like the most ghetto Asian food you can find. Yeah, it was horrible. Is it safe to say that Jolly Bee is taking over the fried chicken

game? But that's Filipino. It's like a different category. It's better than Papa. I just know Asians go crazy over Jolly B. Jolly B. You dip it in the gravy? I worked in health care. I worked in health care. They're getting that. Oh my, all the nurses. Jolly Bussing down a bucket. Jollybee is pretty busting indeed. You make sure you got to get the

spicy. You got to get the spicy. You got to get the spicy with the gravy. And have you seen the super big bag hack they'd be doing online where they peel the skin on. Oh yeah, put the rice in there. And their spaghetti is lit too. No, the spaghetti is all bad. It's not my favorite. It's hot dogs, sweet sauce, and it's ketchup. Make it remember the hood. I love spaghetti and hot dogs. I just, I don't fuck with the sweet that much. Yeah, the sweet is horrible.

But speaking of feeding children, I got to get back to my kids. We appreciate you making some time for us time. I appreciate you. No, I appreciate that you. YouTube legend, man. I appreciate you guys. I appreciate you, brother. Two-hour commitment is crazy. tap in with you, brother. Hey, thanks, Tim. Shout out to Tim, man. Hey, we got to, like, show him that we, like, know about some Asian shit.

Oh, God. Yeah, like, Yoshinoa, am I right? You hate it, too. Panda's good? Yeah, panda's good, right? This guy gets it. You don't even serve panda. You ever noticed it?

Hey, man. That was cool. That was fire. Shout out to Tim. We're meeting all of dough boys' friends. They're all super cool. I feel way more comfortable. I mean, this podcast is kind of changing from, like,

it was supposed to be just us talking about non-hip-hop, non-street topics, and then slowly transforming into like, let's have every person that Do-Boys ever met in his entire life on the podcast. No, that was just one other person. All the time had him and Nick, we didn't put Craig on the podcast.

But I think that's better. Craig was a separate episode. Yeah, yeah, that was good. But I think that's better than us just discussing Doe Boy's life every episode too. And we talked about a bunch of things with him that was non-hip-related and, you know what I'm saying? And I feel like they give a good perspective on like Do-Boy

that gives people, you know, a different outlook. Yeah. How you guys feel about the Monday show 90 days in? I like it. I mean, it's better than the Tuesday show right now. I know that for sure. We did good numbers. We had like 60K for last week. Come on. That was just us three. Sorry. Come on, man. We got a clean 80 on the Tuesday show.

Okay, but we're coming. As a grandfathered in. With Spody and Munchy, we're doing like 100, maybe 120. So like with it, they leave and we still do 80. But listen, like, we were trying shit last week. We tried whatever we bring, Ricky. and we tried, what if we get this knife wielding maniac named Chunky Barbie? What's going on with?

I was looking at a group chat. What's going on with that? Somebody was trying to convince me that was a play. I'm like, this is not a play. She's bleeding. They're like, could be fake blood. I'm like, you guys are too deep. People who don't know what we're talking about who aren't like 100% deep in the lore,

basically like Chunky Barbie from a role in 90s was kind of recommended by a few different dudes that we try around on the podcast, whatever. She is cool. But, I mean, I'm not. a lot like did she really like contribute that much on Tuesday it was kind of like you know like pulling teeth because she like even like she said she loves to get drunk I'm like what do you like drink she's like what do I not like to drink I like to drink everything like she's like kind of like not refusing to be specific or the Jayhood video or she dis Jayhood because we watched on the news it was a

funny ass video she would have you know opened that up and kind of you know had a little jousting with Jayhood that would have been entertained but she was like just bring it up Adam watch the video I'm like just explain the fucking I want to know what's going on. What is this about? Just tell us shit. Just very mysterious. But, uh, you know, like even, uh, I don't know.

Like, I kind of like wonder what the future holds for those dudes who left. Because still till now, I like, don't really feel like anything was done to them that would, like, make it so that it would not make sense for them to come back. And honestly, I got a big, long text for Sputtyface the other day, uh, that was basically like, I don't want to say like big and long, like it's, pause. But like, to make it like he's, like, pleading me or anything. It was basically like him saying, bro, don't let Wack fuck over the fact that me and you are cool. Like, like, basically because Wack was like, you know, always trying to propagate like a narrative that Spottie Face hates me or is talking shit or whatever. And Sputty Face basically just saying like, I got nothing against you. I got nothing against no jump, bro.

I'm not talking shit. That's not what I'm on at all. And I was like, hey, I appreciate that. I fuck with you too. I got no reason to not fuck with you. So is what it is. But you were running with some whack narratives on Spody. that came directly from whack and pretty much that's it so i feel like you know i ain't lying

i'm saying i got i got his cats i don't know why you you are such a spody face gun truther because it's just like it doesn't make any sense you know so i've known spottie for a short amount of time i've known all these guys for a short amount of time it's not adding up i think i'm a pretty logical guy i thought about i can't tell you off camera shit that would make you 100% realize that you're wrong i can't wait i can't wait till yeah i would never see that too but yeah much even said on uh i believe it was the the platform that him doesn't like, you know. Back on Fig. He said,

uh, not a threat. Uh, can you stop talking about them posting them then? Back on fig? What? Can we just like stop posting about them? Like it was like, yeah, you know, I got sucked into watching this clip and his back. Like, why are we posting that, man?

Everybody calling me out because I'm playing poker yesterday and there's one clip where you can see in the background that I was watching back on fake, which I did get sucked him because I wanted to hear a soulless talk about why he doesn't like back on a big sad. Yeah. He was calling Big Sad of Snitch, which really stood out to me that. Because at the time, I didn't remember the Big Sad had a whole little anti-O-TR campaign at one point. So I wanted to see that clip. I don't know why that's a scandal.

Yeah, just as a no-jumper lover, the only thing that's more annoying than like back on fig sucking up every fucking host that leaves is Adam posting back on fig, like on a weekly basis. I think the one refreshing thing, like whatever the future may hold for sporty or for much, I hope they both come back. But whatever the future may hold, it was refreshing to see people leave and not start talking shit about the platform or use. Oh, yeah, yeah, because that's what Munchy said. It was like, it's not a no jumper thing. They go on back on Figg, and then the clips make it seem like they're talking shit. No, Munchy was mad, cool. He actually said U and T. Rales should just squash that shit and be cool.

But obviously, they got to click bait. They got to do the content. He got to him and Ralphie, so. But, uh, just kidding. Like, obviously I haven't seen this, but like, look at this title. I guess it's not that bad. Spody Face on J Hood fight, Adam 22. racist rant.

I love that. That's still kind of bad, but it's not as bad as, I think it was worse before because it was. It was like Adam's disgusting behavior. It's disgusting. It must not have been doing any good enough numbers. We all done that. It's not him.

Let me change it. No, but they made it worse because it was like more intriguing at first. I feel like. No, for sure. Yeah. That almost makes it seem like Spodyface told them like, why did you title it like that? Right. Yeah, but neither one of them was talking crazy.

So that was at least refreshing because I always. just frowned up so much. Like when it's like man, if you gotta go your separate ways, just go in your separate ways. Like you're gonna start talking shit. Like I just don't prefer it. Saying like yeah,

Spody was scared of fight and when he got the whoop is also him talking shit. So they talk shit, it's like, you know, it's just like, it's a little fair, you know. We gotta do fair citizens over here. I'm just sping game, telling people the truth. I just, the hardest thing about that for me to believe is,

I don't believe, I don't believe if a whooptywop was pulled. If a whooptywop was pulled, how could both sit down, and talk to each other for two hours. Because if somebody pull whoop on me, I'm not going to want to talk to you for a while. There's a difference between pulled and clutching. Yeah, a situation in which is obvious that it is there.

Okay. And it's, you know, threatening, but it's not immediately whatever. And then maybe you have a conversation after. Also, it's like, let's be real, all these guys are gun-toting maniacs. I mean, it's like- They're like cowboys pretty much. It's just not as crazy as it is to us. If I put the gun on you, it would probably be like the most traumatic thing that happened in your whole life.

I would fucking burst in the flames. Yeah. That would be a good time for sure. But I wouldn't want to say that and talk to you for two hours after that. I'm not a police. No, don't kill. They probably has guns pull on them all the time. Yeah, so Bobby.

He just survives. He just lives. He grabs the gun and puts it to his forehead like, do it. It was, dude. Dude, I tried so hard to find a screenshot of the moment in the naked gun where the guy's trying to rob Leslie Nielsen and he sticks his fingers from the gun. That screenshot does not exist on YouTube. To create it.

With that, so many narratives come out, I didn't know which one to believe. So I was just like, well, whatever. I just, it was just, because there was just different variations of what it could have been. I was just like, well, bottom line is they came back in and they talked about it, so it must not have been that bad. But then that's what if it was never wanted to come back. We just kind of like, well, what change? But then that also goes against the. Yeah.

But can I say that when we did the podcast with Craig Smith the other day, it did stand out to me that like, that. like that podcast made me feel like oh like maybe like no jumper like having like the one night of the week that's just like the most gangster squad imaginable maybe that's just like not really necessary maybe maybe it'll take a little bit but maybe we really need to lean into like cleaning up the platform's image which is something that I've always been very resisted to because I love the fuck shit right I love playing in the fucking sewer you know And I love the sewer itself. And I love the gangsters.

And I love the gun-toting maniacs, et cetera. But like, you know, like maybe there's a world in which maybe we re-apulster the walls. We don't have the, the, the, the, the, the, the, whacked out murals on the wall. It's like a bookcase wrapping paper instead. Yeah. And then we have, like, you know, fake suits that every single person puts on. So you're not, it's like a, like, a class uniform. You're, like, not required to come in and your coolest streetware.

We're like streamer university, pretty much. You know, and maybe like we get, you know, just like, shit looks a little different. Maybe we like, you know, there's so many little things that we could do to clean up no jumber's image. And it's not like it would go into effect immediately. But over time, gradually, maybe that is what we should do. I couldn't agree more. I think there should be more. And even with my personal experience here, that podcast with with us three that day, it was my favorite space here just because it just felt fun.

It just felt like we were just talking. It just felt like I was just hanging with the homies just, we was talking about random shit from pegging to racism and jokes. And it just felt so freeing and fun. And that's why I feel like I'm in my best element. I can be best served when it's conversations like that or even conversations like this. We just went on a 30-minute tangent about relationships.

We did. For like the first half hour of that, Tim thing, we were just talking about love and whatnot. And I was actually weird to see the chat being like, oh, fuck. Like, Adam, like, this is kind of a revealing origin story. because I forget how crazy my friends double teaming this girl while she ate her period blood really is like that to fuck anybody up it took me up it took me a few days to like wrap my head around it though yeah like how can I be so wrong about a woman kind of that type of thing for sure

you know what I didn't want to mention in that just a little tidbit about that girl is that at one point she had like a viral reel and it was basically like her hanging out at the casino with her boyfriend while he played poker. So somebody sent it to me like look what your ex is doing. And I was like, oh, fuck. She got like a new, like her new boyfriend plays poker. And then I realized he was playing at the one two table, which, you know, when I, when I go to the casino, it's like 10, 20 or like 25, 50 or whatever. Like, so basically like that that guy goes all the way to the casino to sit there and play poker with 200 bucks on the table, which I play online. I'll play like four tables. was out of time with like online's like a lot harder so like you know but like that that just like

that would be like if you were like a professional baseball player and then you found out that your girl was dating a dude who was like a little league coach you know like even little league coach it's kind of mix up the metaphor but like that kind of like and I'm like so not only does this guy go all the way the casino to play poker with $200 on the table but he brings his girlfriend and she's apparently such a loser that she doesn't have anything else to do but just sort of hang out and She said there and watched her. She never watched you play poker. I wasn't playing at the time.

No, okay, okay. Did that make you feel a little bit better? Like, this stupid bitch. I'm so far removed from giving a fuck about her, but it did stand out to me that like, oh, like, if I was still in my feelings a little bit, that would really help things a little bit. Showing some light on you.

I'm not like, I'm better because I play poker for more money. Right. No, things give you perspective. Like the type of dude that he is, only this type of dude would do this. You always want to feel like she downgraded out. Yeah, like, oh, yeah. She fucking would have lame.

Like, oh, yeah. In the poker community, if you go to the casino and play one, two, you're basically like a beginner slash, like someone who is not. Totally not a shit. Yeah, you're a chud, basically, yeah. But, okay, so I, uh, well, we were just talking about. Oh, yeah, like kind of removing some of the gangster stigma. Because I feel like we, the Tuesday show with two, well, we did have A and Afe before.

But, like, you know, having like, you know, some dudes who are like kind of, more on the street shit is good but as soon as you put like too many on one podcast it becomes sort of weird from their perspective i think whereas like if you have like like even munchy when he said like i'll rather pop with moose and fucking doughboy i think there is something appealing of like i can be a gangster as dude and do a podcast where i don't have to fucking lean into that and focus on that all the time but do you think that they could because i kind of was pushing that and you were kind of like not sure, you know, like, is he going to reach a limit to where he's not going to give the best perspective on non-street things?

Do you feel like Munchy or Spody has the ability to just hop in a regular podcast game non-street? The Monday show is supposed to not be about rapper street shit. In my mind, I'm still kind of clinging to that. And I think that like Monday is like the day that if we're going to do podcasts that are like comedy oriented, whatever the final cast ends up being, I think that's good. And I think Tuesday being more street rap, etc. But, I mean, you can have squares talk about street shit and rap shit, too, you know. Right.

And I think what I found out, and you've seen it too moves, I think what I found out with Munchy on the 24-hour stream, Munchy's actually really funny. And he actually, like, once you kind of get him out of that tough shell, like, he's just really funny. He's funny because he got drunk as fucking his pants fell down. No, that was a funny exit. He did run like the first 12 hours on the stream. Oh, yeah.

But he was like super funny. And it was just so cool to just see him in a different element, like not talking about street shit, not talking. And I felt like Spody would have the same, you know what I'm saying, exposure to. Yeah, I think they just need to show that a little bit more because sometimes like on the news, Munchy will shut down if it's like a too outside of his scope kind of topic I've seen a little bit. Yeah, that's a problem for a lot of people. Yeah, yeah. A lot of people.

So how are you feeling a week later? Like, what do you feel like if you had to, if you're a gambling man and you had to put the money on it? Do you think they're going to come back? Spody and Munchy? Um, I don't know. One out of ten, how much do you want them to come back, even have a desire for them? I'm like 10 being the most one being more. I'm not going to answer that question.

I'm going to keep that information close to my chest. I will say this is that like, I think like the biggest difference between right now and 2023 when a lot of people left no jumper is that at that time, it felt like I didn't have anybody like that I could really lean into. Right. Whereas like, but then Brick Baby, I like fucking basically realized that the Brick Baby thing would work pretty quickly.

And that's somebody who like I maybe hadn't really like looked at serious enough because. he was around but I didn't feel like he would be like a good fit with AD and TRL for somewhat obvious reasons but like now there's so many other people that I really wanted like try out on the Tuesday show that even though it was dope before to have something

that was kind of like set in stone it's like there's a lot of other people I want to try out so I'm not like really stressing it like I was at that time you because it started with Cam Grown house phone and you know and really Camber own house phone embrace the pivot sometimes just embrace the pivot but I'm definitely in support of what you're saying like just bringing some just more non-gangsta topics and fun

just because, you know, I think there still needs to be like a gangster day though eventually. You know, we definitely got to rebuild it. It's got to be Tuesday. It's Street Dew Day. For sure. But it's like, okay, Anne Hefei Manchabee and Spody Face was fine. You replace Anne Hefe with Jay Hood.

Apparently it was, that was a little bit. No, it's definitely like a equation that needs to be balanced. How even like that one day, you weren't able to show up to the Tuesday. Not such a good show. You know, it's like you and Lush are just as needed on the street podcast as the street guys to kind of keep everything in order. Well, Lus was saying he is a street dude. He is a Mexican.

He's like, yeah, the best of both worlds. The ultimate duality of a man is Lush, Uno. He is. He is the ultimate man. Yeah, he is. Isn't he? Every ethnicity as well. Every ethnicity.

All right. So what should we dive into? Hobbitism topics? I mean, dough topics. Yeah, we touched on it briefly, but our boy Oliver Tree died in a helicopter accident. He got, you know, pretty much went out on his Kobe tip. You know. A.D.

brought brick baby to no jumper this is the most extreme fake news that nobody has ever said ever anyway i interviewed fucking brick baby like way before ad was even though well maybe around the same time but i knew brick baby way before that anyway sorry i just got derailed by somebody saying yeah i never heard that one before yeah that's a new theory uh a lot of conspiracy theories um okay so i'm gonna i'm gonna rate these tibbies all over tree paths away in a helicopter accident we kind of already discussed that and i don't really have anything to add to it he has some good songs for sure that's some good songs I feel like I've heard one song ever, and it was him and the, like I listened to a little Yadi tape and he had a song with him. Very poppy, very super poppy, a little rock influence, but mostly like very poppy, popular music.

Okay. And Moose has some topics on the bottom, too, so there's some on the top of some on the bottom. He has some fire ones in there too. Sometimes I trust, I might trust the Moose Stavis. It's more than yours. Wow, that's dense. Look at that. Those one through six is still dope boy.

And then Michelle Obama one. I think that's where mine started. Yeah. and look we're inspiring our readers to order Pandex. You know, Panda is so fire. You got to try that barbecue brisket, boost. I want to. I'm like trying to get clean today, so I'm going to avoid it today.

It's protein. So do we know, did you guys watch the UFC White House? I saw a lot of clips, like the highlights and then like just like kind of set up. I watched the entire thing, and let me just tell you that like this could have gone so many different ways because we've obviously seen a decent chunk of like the UFC. C cards over the years be like absolute shit shows and not really like deliver. You know, you're always like one random I poke away from the entire main event. Okay.

Getting destroyed. The guy missing weight, something like that. Yeah, all this shit. And instead, every single fight ended with a knockout, I believe, or a TKO. Yeah. And then the main event itself was like one of the most brutal wars that I've seen in a long time. So given like all the things that could have gone wrong, given the fact that it was supposed to be like a 60 or 70% chance of thunderstorms, which would have been so unbelievably

destructive to the whole thing. I mean, you got to give it to them. It really worked out great. I was playing poker tournaments and I missed the moment where, what's his name, said that Michelle Obama was a man. But Josh Hokit. Yeah, I think it's like fair to say that this is like, like, conservatism and Republicans should just like do better than this. Like this is disgusting behavior. There are photographs of Michelle Obama pregnant, which as well as photos of her as a little girl, what you think would kind of prove to any

thinking human that... I saw Bonnie Blue drinking pregnant in the club, though, too. You never know. That was fake for the record. You never know. And for a moment, I was like, because you've seen so many people on Twitter being like nobody's ever seen Michelle Obama pregnant. I looked it up. That is not true. And that's Twitter. So it's like, that's like the right

wing fucking... It was just such a random thing to just say. He's just like, you're up there and then you just take that moment to make that Joe. But that fool is like all about being Mr. offensive. Yeah, like the white fucking America first like UFC fighter like archetype that started

with like Colby Covington. And then even like Sean got wrapped up in that in his last fight and then apologized was like I got too far into that shit. Like that's not really me. It's like that's like the white boy thing is the, hey, I love America. I love Trump and I'm kind of racist. It would be sick if the Democrats win next go around and then they make MMA illegal countrywide.

Oh, that would be such sweet justice. Dana White must be investigated by the FBI for the rest of his life. But to Dana's credit, he said, yo, I'm not messing with the Michelle Obama thing. Like, I'm all with the shit talking, but putting out misinformation, don't ever say a black woman that's a woman as a man. So shout out to Dana White. How did you feel about the walkout with, was it Trump and White? Trump and Dana White went that? A little walkout together.

How do you feel about that? I feel like Dana should get on more testosterone than his current. because he was looking a little like lumpy and shit. Like, like, I like Dana when he looked like he was, like, carved out of steel for a while. He looked like Jeff Bezos for a quick second. Yeah, he's looking a little Uncle Fester in. He's trying to look like lush.

True. Uncle Fester. But today that with lush with the tank top. Oh, that was hilarious. He looked like he was ready to go. Yeah, T TG. Yeah. Lush looks like a smoker, but he's our smoker.

He's our. Yeah. Nobody could ever mess with our smoker. But, yeah, the sanctity of, like, the White House has been gone. So like watching like fucking dirt bikers do backflips in front of it before the event started. It's like this is where our country, this kind of representation of our country. I like it. I feel like, you know, why does our country need to be so fucking serious all the time?

Why can't we have a sporting event on the grass in front of the White House? Like as much as like as a viewer, this like didn't really provide any value because once you get to the shot of the people fighting, it looks almost identical to the fight that they, you know. you see taking place anywhere else. Now you got like these cool shots in between where it draws attention to the fact that this was taking place on the White House lawn, but really like ultimately it just didn't really add a lot. Dana said I'll never do it again because it was too expensive.

Way too. They spent $700,000 just to fix the grass on the White House lawn afterwards, which I guess I don't know how expensive it is to do lawn care at that scale because my pea brain cannot comprehend how that could ever cost that much. Yeah, and I think of all the security. that you have to pay for, that's extra. But it just kind of has like that idiotocracy kind of vibe to it. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Soon, like all the water fountains in schools are going to be like pushing Gatorade out to the kids and stuff. Like we're heading in that direction. I just feel like UFC is an American invention, you know? Not that we, you know, pioneered people beating the fuck out of each other. Yeah, pride was going on around that time. No, but UFC was first for sure. They pioneered it. But like, and then they bought pride, but like, which is also a very American thing to do.

But I just, I feel like this is. an American invention. MMA is amazing. It's an incredible sport. That card in particular really, like, reminded me of how amazing it is as a sport in particular. And as much as I may hate Trump, I feel like that fucking main event and Justin Gapie, like, or what's probably saying it around? Gai Chi is like he came from behind. He seemed like he was so done in that fight.

And then he came behind for the win. And it was just like America. is number one. We are exceptional. We are better than other countries. We are better than these shithole countries. Like as much as I hate Trump, it really just gave me a moment of like,

we are the best. Everyone else wants to be us. You can all suck our dicks. This is the best country. We might kill you if you are different. If you're trans, we might never let you go to the bathroom again. But we are the best. But that's kind of like the representation that the fighters are giving you of the

country, like making you proud. It's not really like, Oh, I'm so happy that this UFC event is at the White House and Trump makes us look at. But Justin Gitchie was a big ass underdog. No, for sure. He came from behind and took the W against somebody who was undefeated. Want to know why? Oh, because we are number one. And you trolled that guy at the Aden thing, the Ilya.

Let me tell him. It was another dude. I thought that was him. You made one comment to him and he like kind of looked back like, what the fuck? You got to tell the Muslims like, hey, I do porn. Yeah, yeah. He definitely did not see hyped about that. Let me try to understand this a little bit, Adam.

because since you watched it. Was there any rhyme or reason to why this happened or they just was like, let's do a UFC event at the White House? UFC 250 were like right around the 250th anniversary of America, right? Like, did it already pass or is like... I thought it passed.

That's what it was for. Okay, so that's what it was for. Okay, 250, 250. That was like Freedom 250. Okay. So that's what it was. Okay. And Dana White and Trump are notoriously like really good friends.

Trump like personal shit. Dana White, like, people forget, but like Dana White was like kind of the first mainstream celebrity to really get behind Trump. Like I remember Dana White co-signing Trump on an old as Joe Rogan podcast and being like, holy fuck, I cannot believe that he's co-signing Trump like this because you forget that in the early days before Trump won the presidency, it was just considered so toxic to say anything positive about him for a good reason from my perspective.

But the fact that Dana White was that like positive about Trump for all these years. And Dana lies so bad now. and says that he never really did anything to support Trump. Like, he's just like a friend of Trump. If you watch the footage of Dana White at the fucking Republican National Convention or whatever the fuck that shit is, he was going so hard for Trump. And he tries to deny it now because he wants to seem more neutral.

And it's like support for Trump back then, it was way more reasonable than supporting him today. Like, I respect him supporting him at the Republican National Convention in 2016 versus like the C-Now guy that we got today. But yeah, the UFC was like the, the only and probably till this day the only sports league that's like welcome trump with open arms basketball is woke and it fell even to a certain extent is woke now you i'm saying they were pissed when he went to the next game yeah yeah yeah but the nicks let him in it's not like

the next stopped them and said hey we don't you know we don't you know if you're the commissioner of a sport will you would you allow somebody like sean strickland to say the the racist homophobic you know misogynistic things that he says because for me, I would like to think that if I, like the same way that the people on the podcast say horrible things from time to time, and I don't really consider it my business to police what they say. If I'm Dana-Way, I want to run an organization where you can be a fucking bigot and you're still a part of the UFC. Like, like, this is a sport. It has nothing to do with like what you say and do. Like, like for sure. Okay, Sean Strickland should not be able to call

somebody the N-word at a UFC press conference. But if he wants to do so on social media, I don't like, I don't the idea of him getting suspended. I couldn't disagree more because you're a representation of my brand. So if you're saying things like this and I'm not checking you about it, that means I'm okay with you saying that. It doesn't matter if you say it on your own personal platforms, you are an extension of this brand. And if you're out here saying this shit, you're making the brand look bad. So I wouldn't be with that shit. I would find people and give them repercussions for that. Because that's my food. Speech is important. I think that you, if you're going to be not when it's hate speech. But that's like the perfect heel as well. It's like a guy who's putting

out hate speech. And you want to see him. get beat up, you know? So fighting, I feel like it's a little different. I do. I feel like hate speech might be over the line, but I think we probably have different definitions of hate speech. Well, the people are saying racist things and homopobic things. Those aren't positive things. I don't think that a racist thing is hate speech. Okay, well, maybe that's a step too far, but it's still negative towards a group of people. And if it's my organization that you're representing, you're doing shit like that, I got to check you about it. Or it makes it seem like I'm okay with it. Okay. If you're, if you are in the U.S.C. and you say, I don't think gay marriage should be

legal. I think that gay people should not be able to get married. By all means, of course you should be able to say, I don't think you have the freedom to say that in the NBA, right? No, a guy just in the NFL, I think he pretty much left the NFL because he was like going on his Instagram saying like marriages between a man and a woman. He was going to getting a little unhinged, but they pretty much cut him for that. To me, that's disgusting. Of course, as a professional athlete, you should be able to say things that, you know, I agree hate speech. Okay, if you, and especially if you're using the UFC as a to say it but i think that if you are a person who fights in the ufc and you have you know like if you let's say racist jokes that i'm okay with now if you say um i think we should bring back lynching

okay now we got an issue but you're okay i don't think the ufc should be okay with that but if you're the kind of person like sean strickland who kind of like hops on social media and makes racist jokes i think you should still be able to fight in the ufc and make racist jokes yeah and yeah it just depends like it's so you're now so you're now so you're now so, and I just want you to understand the extent to which this is not in any way analogous with the things that you said in the past about how you feel about race. Like, it seems like so obviously impossible for one person to have both of these opinions. No, because it's different when you say it's a business and a brand.

You're just asking me how I personally feel, I don't be tripping. I don't take shit that seriously. But if I have a brand that is marketed to millions of people or people are spending money with me, no, you can't do shit like that. But that's just a business concern. Yes, if you want to profit maximize, then you should very tightly control. what the people who are part of your organization say. I don't think that that should be the first concern.

I think that the, and probably forever the UFC, as long as they have this sort of policy, they will miss out on sponsorships or deals with major brands. You know, you're just never going to see Nike in the UFC ring. They tried it with John Jones. They did like a little soft launch. And then John Jones, you know, like hit a fucking two-year-old of his car or whatever. And then all of a sudden it went away. Right.

Well, no, I was just answering the question from a business standpoint. Right. I thought if you, I would like to think that if I was Dana White, that I would have the Cajones to run a fucking organization based on what's right and not what's going to make me the most month. But I think it's easier for him because the UFC's been on that since they started. They've already been blacklisted. The NBA's got the squeaky clean, you know what I'm saying?

Nobody's trying to ban basketball. So it's like they kind of have that underdog like, you know, dark lore a little bit, you know, too. Well, and noticeably, like, the NBA is like, they have a partnership with like so many different TV networks. Absolutely. And they have partnerships with all of the biggest squeaky clean corporations. And then in comparison, the UFC doesn't really have a partnership with anybody besides Paramount Plus and I guess maybe ESPN to a certain extent.

Yeah. Some ESPN, yeah. I don't know. I just, I like the idea of a sports organization not policing the thoughts of their employees or their fighters. So you were cool with him calling Obama a man in the middle of the ring? Michelle Obama I mean Michelle Obama

I think that they should tell him that they don't appreciate it but I don't think you should be kicked out of the USC I don't think he should be kicked out I wouldn't say that that's the kind of thing that if I'm Dana White I'm like letting him know hey we're not like incentivizing you

to say like that that doesn't make me happy that doesn't make me look more fondly upon you when you make that kind of joke but I don't think that you should be removed from it and I do think that probably in the NBA like that exact joke we're getting kicked out of the NBA I mean find him

That's why I would find them. Yeah, I think in the NBA and, like, NFL a lot of times they're not going to be like, oh, we're kicking you out the league for saying this. It's just all the owners are going to be like, this is a branderis for us. Like, we don't want to touch this guy because he might say some unhinged shit. And now we're losing a bunch of stocking our fucking team interest and shit. But I'm not with the extremity of kick him out. He shouldn't be able to find.

I think that's extreme. But that's what the NBA would do. I know. They probably fine him first. No, it depends. It depends. Well, Kyrie was like not trying to mess with the Vax. And they were on his helmet pretty damn hard.

about that and like him speaking out against even as dumb as I think that is he should have the right to you know have his beliefs but yeah they didn't kick him out the league I think you know know they might they suspended him and he was on the verge I mean till this day his reputation has been affected but they suspended him for like not taking part of taking the vax the measures that were at that time ruled to be like what you need to do mandatory which for sure I think if you are just like anti-bax you should be able to say that but I don't think that the NBA would like really have a problem with that so much as him like not complying with it was that and you was speaking out and it was some anti-jewish stuff he was saying around the same time so it all kind

of coincided it was a book that has it was a book and it was pretty much saying like jews aren't the real jews it's like black israelite type you know talking points and stuff yeah kicking somebody out but just just showing like a disciplinary action be like hey we're not cool with that this organization doesn't represent that so chill out but do you think like sports people in general should be speaking about politics like the jackson dark dude i think he made a some type of announcement at a trump rally some type of connection. He's the quarterback of the New York Giants. A bunch of his teammates came out immediately and were like,

what the fuck is this shit? No, I do feel like you should be able to voice. I mean, that's like when you go back to the freedom of speech thing. If you got some political views, you should be able to say what it is you represent. If you got some religious views, that's okay, as long as it's not offensive to, you know what I'm saying, to people? What if one of those guys won their USC fight and they grabbed that mic and they say, George Floyd died from fentanyl. And you're Dana White.

What do you do? I'm finding you and you got a six-month ban. I'm just going to do like what he did with the Michelle Obama thing. Say, hey, I don't agree with that. You know, from what I've seen, that's misinformation. But, you know, you got to do something, though. There has to be some level of it. It's just like, what is that harming though?

Because at a certain point, you're going to have somebody going up there doing Hitler solutes. Yeah. And saying, you know, Jews will not replace us in the middle of the U.S. For some reason, I think it's never going to get there for some reason. I think they have enough control to where it's like everybody for some reason is smart enough not to go and die on that. So let me ask you this.

At the live show, we're having a good time. Lush goes up there and says George Floyd died of fentanyl. Then does a Nazi salute right after. What are you going to do? I mean, a Jewish man saying that? But not actually Jewish considering because he, what are you going to do? And let's just say, and it goes super viral. God does like, you know, bail numbers.

Because then I immediately start to like think about what that does to No Jumper as a platform because then no jumper are like, oh, it's like the most viral moment we've had in years. And it's because Lush is basically saying like one of the most offensive things. I mean, I would probably talk to him. What if there was public outcry for you to react? This is the thing is that no jumper, more so than the UFC is a place that is like known for extreme controversy and really kind of courting that sort of thing. And I don't really like, like, how would it affect us to be like Lush? You can never come back because you said something offensive.

Like how does that benefit us? I think he should maybe get suspended again. Would you suspend him? Yeah, bring him back. I mean, you suspended suspect for swinging on a guy, so you wouldn't. I think physical violence is worse than making a... It seems like the most obvious, like, bad faith take at all the time. You suspended a suspect for swinging on someone. I'm just saying.

Is he not the same as saying something vaguely anti-Semitic? No, it's not the same, but it's like you've seen something that happened in your business and you didn't agree with it. It feels like you should be able to answer this question for yourself without me having to explain to you why punching somebody in the face 10 times to a bloody pole. So let's just keep it on the end. So let's just keep it on the end.

So let's just keep it. If Lush said that about George Floyd, and there was a public outcry for you to do something because it went super viral, there's 100 million views. What are you going to do? I do feel like that take about George Floyd has been mainstreamified to the extent

that it's almost like not really that out of the norm. Like the Overton window, granted that is like a far right position. Yeah. I was watching, I watched some fucking debate the other day. It's this thing called the Enemy Project. You seen that?

It's like they had like a white, guy who's like a former cop and then they have like a black woman who's like the most BLM out polar opposite yeah and at one point he says like no George Floyd died of fentanyl overdose you can see it in the toxicology reports and like she didn't really have like any way to do battle with that besides saying we all saw the video we all saw his knee on his neck or whatever which you know I've looked into it myself and it seems like it's kind of like it's a conspiracy to say that like I don't know yeah the medical examiner said that he didn't die from the fentanyl in his system.

He died from the knee on his neck. And just because you have a level of fentanyl that would kill a normal person, doesn't mean that that's what killed him because, like Lush, he could probably deal with a lot more fentanyl than I can. So when you're doing these drugs, you build up an immunity and a normal amount that would kill a normal person is not going to kill this gentleman. And that's what they deduce from that.

And I do feel like, you know, probably like both things can be true, right? Like he was probably on like a bunch of fucking fentanyl. and then also this motherfucker for a long-ass time which probably exacerbated him panicking because he was in that position but then just saying like

oh he overdosed all you could see on video like that's not how like an overdose you know looks Michelle Obama being a man is more controversial than George Floyd died from fentanyoff

just because it's like very easy to disprove the Michelle Obama thing to the point where like it's hard to take him saying it on stage as like a serious statement of fact yeah I mean look at him

he has like a American flag band Dan on he's got the shades on he's glazing Trump from the beginning to the end. It's like we knew that he was probably going to say something like that. Was that guy trolling when he was doing the way in drunk? Yeah, he was trolling. Yeah.

His whole thing is like the absolutely crazy Kobe Covington like archetype, you know. Man, I told you guys on the group together, but I keep watching this fucking body camera videos. I was, I was on that for a while. I was on that for a long time. The First Amendment guys I was watching for a minute when they just go places and like film and like buildings. They're not told not supposed to. So many highlights I've seen just today while I was like answering.

some emails i had one playing in the background at a certain point i realized it's like a guy came home from work and his wife was fucking her son on the couch i see this one i see this one and he called the cops which to me that's so far why would you call the cops like what are they going to do it's illegal incest is incest is illegal but how like by the time the cops get there aren't they not going to be having sex anymore and then how are you going to prove that they arrested them in that video i'm pretty sure like both of them went to j i think it would never occur to me to call the cops on someone for incest. The mom was like a pretty admitting, you know.

Yeah. And they're like that she did it. They are. They start questioning. They're hitting it to the cops. And like to me, this is really weird because it's like if I was going to, you know, like have sex with my son or whatever, like they're, for the record, they're adults. Like, it's not like it's a kid. Oh, they were adults. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Sounds way. Way. Way.

I mean, what race were they, no boy? I don't, what? These people that would have sex? Why? Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, it just like it wouldn't occur to me that like anyone will call the cops on. Like like I believe that incest being illegal is insane. But he probably was just in shock. He didn't know what to do. Yeah, I understand being mad.

I just don't understand calling the cops. I think it's the offspring part that's who makes it illegal. Right. The offspring being your offspring. So you can fuck your cousin, you think? Uh, I don't think even. I think second cousin is the only one that is legal. I think first cousin, you're still in trouble.

Because it could have suit. You could have like a little cresherne if you fuck your cousin. Is it illegal to fuck your cousin? Probably did state to state. In most, but. Legal. Yeah. In most parts.

Oh, it's legal. Fire. Do it. Your adult first cousin is legal. Okay. Boy, what's strict states? What's in the strict states? Oh, stop being in the south.

In Oklahoma and Mississippi. They're like, you guys going too crazy out here. It's banned. All right. But my follow up is, is, is. it illegal is it illegal to have sex

with your sister I had an adult I watched the debate of like them talking about like what if like the sister is unable to Oh it is illegal Wow And it's a felony Wow

Yeah because you could you could have a baby and it's all fucked up I mean does this not seem insane to anybody else That it's the fucking government's right to like Tell you can't tell you who you can have sex with And then give you a thousand me and throw you in prison? Yeah, I watched the debate about this.

Pretty much the guy was like presenting, what if the sister had like all of her ovaries removed? And there's no chance the guy's sterile. And there's no chance of a, is that okay for the government to still come in? I forget what the outcome is. I feel like the kid is the thing that should be illegal. Yeah, that's what you have a kid. But they're saying we don't even want you risking it because you guys are already so freaked out that you're fucking your sister.

There's no saying that you're not going to have a kid with her. The baby's going to come out all fuck that. Yeah. And then you got like the guy from three. I owe their foyer. Instead of with the hunchback from 300. All right. Do people ever go to federal prison for fucking their sister or brother?

Yes, they can, but only under specific jurisdictional circumstances. You gotta really be laying it down. Yeah, you gotta really fuck the shit out of there. You can't just dip it in. Just the tip so I don't go to the feds. Because incest is primarily regulated by state law, the vast majority of people convicted of adult sibling incest served their time in state prisons. That's what be an awkward conversation when you present to

paperwork. Hey, what you were for? I was trying to I hate it too hard, buddy. We started to keep it in the family. Yeah. That's crazy. They've got to be stricter in the South. That's so funny. Wait, wait, wait. So if you fuck your sister on a Indian reservation or a military base,

then it's a federal prison. Oh, shit. Wait, but okay. The Navajos were running it up? Let me find out. Navajo? He was being a Navajo with your brother? Let me find out. It occurs to me that writing like, Fuck your sister is like way less characters than have sex with your sister.

Yeah, the soft white underbelly family, the the Whitakers. Dude, five to 15 years. No, no, no. It says ranges from zero to life in prison. Oh. What? Give it somebody in a kickstand. I love that it's literally you could either not be arrested or you're going to spend

the rest of your life in there. Okay, but in Jersey, you're going to have consensual sexual relationships as an adult with your sister and it's totally legal. Jared Fields, you got to answer for your folks. Go to Rhode Island. It's a misdemeanor. But then most states, it is a mid-level felony. That's wild.

So, Massachusetts, up to 20 years, but all these other ones that's saying mostly like, you know, two to five. Yeah, just go to Virginia or Illinois if you want to fuck your sister. So I bet that there's like conversations between people who like want to fuck their sister about what state is the best to live in. And why are they being, how are they getting caught? Like, just do it and don't tell nobody. That's what I'm saying.

Just agree. Like, hey, we're not going to tell. But then you get caught. It's like murderers. She's going to start telling. But then she's in trouble too, right? Yeah, so that's what I want to know too. So like, if you do get caught for this, do both parties that participate?

Get the same exact? Or is it the man that's going to get the time away? The sister's like, he can convince me. You know, I wasn't even down for real. I didn't really want to do it. Yeah. She gets two years. You get 30.

You busted the nut. Damn. She didn't orgasm. Sorry. You go to jail for life. No, because I've seen some shit about, I think it's like, Washington is the best state to live in if you want to fuck horses. That's a thing?

It's like it's somehow the law is different there. And like so like, handy. Everybody who wants to fuck horses like lives in Washington or something. Yo. My Washington homies. Hey man. What's up with y'all?

What's up with the upstay homies? Is it true that most people want to legally F animals move to Washington? No, that is not true, Adam. having sex with animal, beastiality, by the way. It's a rumor? The law, the 1970s law.

What was that up a little bit? Oh, wait. Right there. The 2005 in 1976, Washington State lawmakers repealed its old, broad sodomy status to decriminalize consensual, oral and sexual sexual oral and sexual

sexual sexual sexual oral and sexual between human adults. However, the old statute also contains the state's ban on beastiality by repealing the entire law, law majors accidentally decriminalized sex with animals. So that's not a rumor.

They pass legislation so you can fuck animals Not that I ever think about it like that But when I do think about Beastiality It's just you don't think about An animal sitting there And letting it out

Like if you think about somebody Trying to fuck a horse I always just think the horse Would just kick them Like no but okay And that's what happened Is that a dude died And they made the movie

Mr. Hands Yeah Which I didn't see it But I remember one time I was playing poker On my computer And my ex-girlfriend Was watching it in the other room

So I kind of got the gist I was like hearing The noises and shit And like There's a whole movie they made about this and I think the horse dick which by the way ever see a horse dig it was fucking the guy he was not fucking the horse

no yeah he was getting fucked by the horse the horse was fucking him it damaged his organs and caused him to die that's what these people do wow and that and the timeline really lines up here because I remember when that movie when she was watching that movie would have been like 2006

and this is when it says that the law changed was like 2006 they saw Mr. Hans and changed the law it became a big deal because of this movie and no yeah Mr. Hans and like two girls one cup were like coincided like it's the crazy ass internet like lower videos for sure usually it takes a couple years for the law to catch up with all the weird shit that people secretly want to do especially early internet they're like god we got to get control of this this is going viral

that's what they're doing on there wow so okay i guess there's like no safe state to live in now you can't fuck your sister you can't fuck your horse what can you do in america maybe this isn't the best country in the world yeah free it all this don't throw free it off logo sure right yeah that's not free. Shit. What's the best state to... Oh, Jesus. You want to...

This is burning like gallons of water and trees in the forest. Okay. There's no state where it's better. 49 out of 50 states. What's the one? Wait, so... Rhode Island.

They got severe penalties in Rhode Island, so you could fuck your sister and be okay, but don't fuck your dog. We're going to lock you up. Don't you fuck, Fido. Okay. Wow. West Virginia.

Of course. West Virginia has historically been the final state without a specific statute explicitly criminalizing bestiality on its books. However, that does not make the state a legal safe haven because, oh shit, the loophole is closing. Oh, no. The West Virginia legislature, they introduce and pass bills to officially amend the state code, but I guess they haven't been fully passed yet. And local law enforcement can and does protect individuals under general animal cruelty and

torture laws. but yeah I guess West Virginia's your best bet. So you could prove that... So if you could prove the animal is down, then they won't lock you up. But if they're like... He seems a little scared. We're taking you in.

See, you learn something new every day because I would have been the kind of person saying that like you were allowed to fuck animals in Washington, which I was close to right because they... Yeah, back in the 70s, you could, for sure, up until 2006. About 30 years of animal fucking.

I mean, I don't... Okay, I feel very differently about men choosing to get fucked by horses than I feel about fucking incest because incest like poses really like no well the kid thing like doing something where the offspring will be retarded and have a hard life like pretty much guaranteed that's fucked up and the other thing too is that these dudes who are getting fucked by horses like it's not like they were fucking their own horses they were sneaking onto fucking ranches and doing this and filming it yeah oh my god filming it is so crazy setting up lights and shit um okay so this is a

I don't know if this has been discussed on here, but you see Mick Jugger Nuggets, the legendary YouTuber, basically like he vlogs his whole life and basically him and his wife announced that they had a pregnancy. And then they announced that they got rid of the kid because the kid was going to have Down syndrome.

Myself personally, I am 100% behind it. If I knew that my kid was going to have Down syndrome, I would have absolutely aborted it. You know, a kid who has Down syndrome, as much as you might love them, if you were like forced into this situation. I mean,

they're never going to be able to have a normal job. They're never going to be able to have like a normal fucking life. I feel like there's, there's deformities and shit that are like way less impactful than Down syndrome that I would also support aborting. Yeah, I agree. I get it.

But the disgusting part is making the content out of it. I think like filming myself crying with my wife as we find out our infant that's in my, or the baby in my wife's stomach is like has down. I think he's a daily blogger. I know, but we don't draw the line anywhere. It's like, did you, you know, when you guys conceive this baby, did you film that and you know, blur it out and put that out? You know, I just feel like this is one of those things.

You deserve the backlash because you thought this was going to be good content. This is like dirt bad content. Oh, devastating news. Oh, yeah, look at this. This is actually, I guess, the, the thumbnail. Yeah, oh wow, look at, we're having a baby. Okay, so I don't think they are daily vloggers. They're like occasional vloggers.

vloggers. So this was their big bang. Yeah. So this, this for people who forget, this guy was fucking huge during the era of YouTube that I kind of blew up in like 2016, 2017. And then the algorithm just absolutely decimated his channel somehow. And

his fan base is like comparatively pretty small now. Like, well, you're still doing like 100K on a lot of these. But I'm sure a lot of these went up after the controversy too. That is a good point. So given that is actually kind of crazy how much the views have sort of fallen off because this guy I used to, but like, he was getting a ton of views for like, you remember like the angry grandpa shit?

Yeah. All that kind of stuff. Like kind of the prank era a little bit. Yeah, but so they put out a video two months ago, we're having a baby. And then one month ago, we received devastating news. And then it also says psycho update. Like the Down syndrome baby, the psycho update. No, like it's like this update that we got is psycho.

But this is just called, we may lose the baby. It doesn't seem like this is the one where they actually. Do you think he took it down? I took that down. They might have been cooking him in them comments. Either way. I mean, if you're, if you're bossy enough to put it out, you got to be bossy enough to take the backlash, you know, yeah, you thought it was a good idea. Like you.

I think they were, they were getting, like, harassed. They were getting death threats. Super bad. Because the anti-abortion squad is already so strong. Even the ablest protectors, you know, I'm sure there's a bunch of the left-wing, you know, liberals there were like, how could you, you know? Would you abort your down syndrome, baby? Yeah, I would. Do you?

Yeah. I feel like, did it's the only. or some regular ones, you know? Of course I'm going to do the down syndrome one. Because I know myself and I know like you got to be a real patient person. Like, you know what I mean? I don't know that I have that much patience. And I don't know.

I just, I just think it would be better for everyone. If you did have a down syndrome child, do you think this would like offend you? Like what the fuck? Like that's fuck that. I'd be pissed if I had a down syndrome child. You know,

I love my down syndrome kid. Like, why would you want to stop? Down syndrome should just be eradicated because of abortion. Like nobody should ever have a down syndrome kid again unless they're like so. anti-abortion. I think Switzerland or one of those Norwegian countries, you have to get an abortion.

I think they've eliminated Down syndrome in one of those Norwegian countries. Well, Sweden is like kind of working on the master race. I think it might be Sweden. It's one of those white countries, though. They made that a law. Yeah. I get it, but it's also like, you know, it's kind of like the thing of incest, like the government's coming in

and saying, hey, you can't have this type of baby. And if you are anti-abortion, which a huge percentage of our country is, imagine being forced to have an abortion by the fucking government. I'm super opposed to that. I was watching Dave Rubin get destroyed in that Jubilee,

20 versus one. And at one point, one of the dudes who's destroying him the best, I realize, has a baby arm. You probably know the dude. Yeah, yeah, I know you're talking about it.

I don't know his name. Yeah, he kind of has like a DJ Paul arm. It's kind of like... It's different because it kind of like cuts off right here and then he has like literally like a baby hand, like little tiny fingers

that are almost like nubs. He's definitely like not... able to do shit with it. If I were him, honestly, I feel like I would have probably kind of got the hand to cut off and make it just like a pure nub. But either way, if you knew your kid was going to have that,

is that abortion status? I think I'll let him rock with the baby arm. Because I feel like there's... Are you talking about like a scary movie when to do that? But it's like short. It's like cuts off at the elbow pretty much. And then like he has a hand and like his fingers are like little balls pretty much. Most of the arguments in favor of aborting the downsterns.

her baby kind of go out the window when you're just talking about something as minor as like having half a fucking arm well he's not going to play basketball like big deal and i feel like the technology to solve his issue is we're closer to that than solving like down syndrome and like you know having them live a normal life like him getting a robotic arm i feel like it's closer than us like curing down syndrome in whatever way you would see fit yeah i could deal i could deal with a half arm we know a lot of people living with one arm true yeah they're doing just fine yeah a big deal doesn't see that bad yeah yeah i mean it does you know but one thing i was impressed by with that guy though is that he uh he wasn't making any attempt to cover it up you know yeah like a dj paul he has a towel on it

for the past 30 years yeah i feel like a huge but i know a very famous well not like famous well-known person in hip-hop who has like a whole fake arm really the whole arm's fire i've never seen anybody talk about it on the internet but tell me off camera man no i don't know who it is yeah even when i tell people about dj paul they're like He doesn't have a little arm. I'm like, yes, he definitely does. He does. He has like a little brace on it.

He's always worn. And a lot of times he'll be a, I notice he'll be holding something with the little arm. That's fine. Like a cup or something. Like a bag. He'll have like a soda in a bag. If I could hold like grocery bags and bring them in my house, I'll take the little arm, you know?

But just like to make it like a little less awkward because, you know, I know it's awkward for all of the people that we know who have like a missing arm when someone goes. And then they just like, yeah. Yeah. My homie dated a girl. and she looked pretty good when he was in college and she had like a nubby hand pretty much. And he told hit the group chat. Like it was like when we're all coming over to a party at his house, he's like,

Hey man, when you meet her, don't reach out for the hand. Like don't, you know, kind of like she's sensitive about this. You know, I pulled up. I was a few blunts deep, was drinking. Go straight up to her. Hey, Moose, come on. Meet my girl, bro. Me my girl.

I'm like, hey, how you do? I look down. I see the nub and she's just like staring at me. Just doesn't put the other hand out. nothing. I'm like, hey, nice meeting you, all right. I just walked off. And like later he was like, bro, how the fuck look? I told you. I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, bro. I had this

chick in high school and she was bad. Like, I'm telling you, like, super bad. And she used to always kind of walk, I never noticed it until I've seen it. So she used always walking around like this. Her, basically, her finger was like this, but then it was like super big at the top and it like curbed. She didn't tell me. We go to the movies, bro. So she's like this.

It was like, it was like tissuey. It was like a big, it was like, it was like, big and fat right here and it curved to the right. Dick finger? It was like, she never told me, and we went to the movie, and she was about to cut out some chase, and she was like, oh, what the fuck? Like, yo, what the fuck is that?

But she was so fine everywhere else, but that kind of made it awkward after that. That's crazy because it's insane that I have such a similar story, but like my first girlfriend, when I was like 12 or 13, Allison. The one who got away. She was beautiful, and I was a year younger than her, which at that time matters a lot. Like, I'm in seventh grade.

She's in eighth grade. Big ass deal. You're a man. Yeah, you're a joint. The fact that I had a hot girlfriend that was 14 when I was 13, like made me like pretty fucking cool. But she had like a hand that like, you know, like maybe like one of the fingers was full length and like maybe this one's like, you know, two thirds of the length.

And then this one is like one knuckle. And this one's one knuckle. Kind of like T-Mobile bars. Yeah. So I never talk. about it. Never had a conversation about it. She would always kind of like have it behind her bag. She would always wear a long sleeve shirt and wrap the shirt around it. My first ever hand job was with her the other hand. I'm like there's no way she busted it out for that.

We did not have sex. We were probably together. We were together for like a summer for like three, four months. That's pretty good. And which when you're that age, it's like a long time. It's like five years. And one huge fight that we got into that actually like stemmed from her injury or I think she was just born with it like that was that so Hansen,

the group Hansen came out. And like they die in a plane crash? A lot of no. A lot of people pointed out at the time that they thought that it was a group of girls. Yeah. And the singer in particular really looked like a girl. And I remember like telling one of my friends, we're going to go

to this Hanson concert and we're going to get first row tickets and I'm going to dive on stage and I'm going to cut off the singer's hand because, oh, I forgot to include this. I thought that he kind of looked like my girlfriend. Oh, okay. And I would make jokes about like, oh, you look like the singer of Hansen. And I told my friend, they're all blonde, right? And I was going to jump on stage and cut off his hand and then surgically put it onto her hand. So just because they looked like you felt like the hand would fit her hand. You know, I'm thinking I'm funny. I'm 13. And so I, oh, this is a joke that you're telling. It was a joke that I told my friend and then my fucking asshole friend told his girlfriend.

And then that girl tells my girlfriend and she fucking broke out with me basically because of that. And that really, you know, I'm thinking like, we're supposed to be bros. If I make an offensive joke to you, you're supposed to go tell this bitch. Especially if you haven't talked to her about the hand at all. And then she's like, oh, he's been thinking about this whole time. He's joking about me. You insensitive fuck. That's like would break her heart.

And I say that to let all the people at home who. think that I'm just weird now that like I've always been the same because doesn't that sound like something I would make a joke about? For sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's just me. Shout out to Allison. We've always been like that. We've always been like, oh my God, I can look her up on Facebook. I'm going to do it later. That's fire. She just hasn't. Does she ever touch your face with the funny hand? Like on some intimacy. Probably hit it away. But his hair beat has got these uneven fingers. No, but I have like a memory that I like, I should just lie and act like I remember the details, but it was something where like something happened,

like somebody like tried to do a prank on her or something. And like I think she like whipped like her hand out without realizing like hit him away with the retard hand. And like everybody like peeped how awkward this was. I think a deformity does something for a girl that she probably would thought you, you know, she was too good for you without it. But that kind of, you know,

makes her a little more down to earth, I feel like. And then I had a friend who was in college with her. and he said that she went over his house like he had a party out of his house and that she went to the party and she stole his shoes from the front of the house

like he had his shoes just by the front of the house didn't think to put him away because who the fuck's gonna steal some shoes she stole his shoes where do you think she took him? I don't know, gave it to one of her friends out here with the fucked up hand taking shoes with his said hand

and in my head I thought like is she traumatized to from the hand thing and that caused her to become a kleptomaniac. That's a key. That's a kid keep her hands off nothing. Yeah. Yeah. I thought she was like putting the shoes on her hands and like walking upside down or something.

I don't know. I don't know what the fuck she's doing. God damn it, Alison. I always wonder if she like, because I feel like I've talked about this like a couple times over the years, but like not enough where I think that like people have heard it. But like I wonder if she like gets a word from time to time. But I don't think anybody from Nashville really watches my blood goes. You don't think anyone.

There has to be somebody. If they do, or like their kid or something, like, hey, I went to high school with that guy. They don't hit me up to talk about it if they do.

I feel like they probably didn't say old girls damn because she was still in Sacramento and she might watch this stuff. Yeah, they're all watching. I want to put her out there like that. She was fine though.

She was like the first, I was like in 10th grade. She was thick as fuck. Crazy era in my life was when before like No Jennifer fully took off like the very beginning, I would just hang out with girls

and make eye phone vlogs and me hanging out with girls. And, And then inevitably, I happened to like a bunch of times I would like post my vlog of me just hang out with this girl. And she would start getting attacked by like people that were like, look at this other thing he posted the other day. And look at this. And I like very quickly realized like I can't do this. I can't just like make content out of me just hanging out with random girls.

It's always going to end badly. And they're making me take them down. And yeah, it sucked. Yeah, that's crazy. Like, oh, you appeared in this vlog. Like now you condone everything that Adam 22 does. It was just being like that pressure to end up taking it down.

I'm hanging out with normal girls who have normal jobs. Whereas like now if I was doing that, they would all be porn stars and random. And they know what's up. And now we live in the history image where everybody just wants clout and they don't. A lot of people would like gladly take being clown for the clout.

For sure, yeah. And that seems like that's all like the streamers are doing is just getting the big ass house and just kicking it with a bunch of chicks and getting drunk. So yeah. That's been the Lane Creek now. Yeah.

Until they get some allegation on them. And that's why I get skinny from the nine. I saw academics give that advice to like Adrian Broner, I think it was, where he was like, don't make your thing making content out of humiliating chicks. Oh yeah. It's not going to go bad. Great advice. Like, that's just not.

Only a matter of time. With what Axe had to deal with, he's the best one to listen to on that front for sure. It's very easy to do so because there are a million retarded women out there. But then it's just going to end badly. It ends up being, you end up being sharp pretty much. Like people do get over it and then you start to look like the asshole that just shits on women. 24-7. Yeah, but and even that, okay, because you're like confined to a podcast space, like as long as you don't hit them or throw something at them, then you're good. But like,

when you're doing like the party thing where you have like a whole house and you're streaming and there's 10 bedrooms and we don't know what's happening in the bedroom, that's any girl could literally say that you fucking raped her and like, you know, it's going to go bad. It's just not really like that much to stop her from doing something. And then they're going to bring up a thousand clips of AB like making girls uncomfortable on stream. Like, see, we've seen the signs. I was doing a podcast with somebody. They're like, oh, yeah, A, B's probably R word of this many girls. I'm like, that's crazy to say.

You know what I'm saying? It's like, just off some clips, but definitely if the allegation comes out, they're going to be like, oh, yeah, we knew that. That was bad. We knew he was going to do that. Yeah, I'll give you guys, like, one or two more atop bags before I have to go. Be a dad. There's anything that a rest and peace to Alden Smith.

Yeah, rest and peace, one of my favorite defensive ends of all time. He was dealing with a lot of mental health things before he died. Like, he was, like, sleeping under his car and shit. He had such a fall from Greg because when he came in the league he was such a beast. He played for the 49ers. He was like on a trajectory to be one of the goats. And then I don't know what it was.

I think CTE affected him. He grew up really fucked up. Right. There's a bunch of things. They think he OD'd in the car. So just a couple days before he died, he was on a podcast getting his haircut and he was asking him questions. He was pretty much voicing like, hey, I'm not in a good space right now.

It could be in a much better space. He set the record. for the 49ers, I think, in that first or second season, he was on their team for the sack record, which still stands to this day. And he ended up kind of getting booted from the league because of having troubles and substance abuse, all kinds of shit.

Yeah, couldn't pull it together, but yeah, rest of peace to him. Rest and peace, man. But, I mean, do you... I don't know. Like, I know we're, like, evolved and we're supposed to be, like, sensitive men and everything. But, like, when you find out that somebody's, like, going through it that hard,

that they've basically like either killed themselves or like put themselves in a situation where they died like I don't know is it kind of like is there a part of you that's just like how like how could you get that deep in it for me just because I never really struggle with thoughts of that type of shit even when I'm like the most down bad I still am like so I guess selfish where I'm just like I love myself too much to ever do something like that but when I see something like this it's like goddamn like the point that you have to be to even that pops and crawls into your brain you have to have to have to have some deep dark shit going on to even consider that. But see, but mental illness, like, it's a real thing. Like, you know what I'm saying? I've had some murky thoughts, like, you know what I'm saying?

I've had to, like, you know, walk myself out of situations. And it's just like, it can just go from everything is fine to everything is not. And like, you know what I'm saying? And I think toxic masculinity prevents people from saying, especially with somebody like, all of them, you know, rest in pieces, like, you're this big, bad football players. So people feel like, what are you talking about your feelings for?

You're this big strong guy. Six nine, two, eight. So a lot of people feel like, if they are having, issues or having struggles that they can't, you know, talk about. Like, black men are the number one people that unalive themselves in this country. So it's just like, it's true. Yeah, it's definitely true. I think the white's got you beat.

No, the black man. Take a look, look. Trust me, I know. Do black men commit suicide more than any other group? In the U.S., maybe. We won't turn this. No. I do not.

Who is it? Non-Hispanic white men and non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native population's experienced the highest overall suicide. However, suicide is a severe and rapidly growing crisis among young black man. Damn, black people are trying to take credit for everything. Yeah, the white's got the suicide. At one point, I know that it was. I stand corrected.

Maybe that's changed over the years. Probably you just heard somebody say it and you assumed it was true. I heard it more than once. Well, I mean, I'm just, yeah. Do you want me to say, was it ever true? Yeah. Okay. I don't think so.

Was it ever true? I feel like committing suicide is like a... Black men. A little bit of a privilege thing, no? I feel like poor people aren't committing suicide on a regular basis. That's what I'm saying. I do feel like it's kind of like... It's kind of like...

You get to like a certain point and you realize... Wait, you put first. They have never had the highest overall suicide rate. No, you put first. They never have? Okay. Was it true that black men committed suicide first? Yeah.

Who was the first guy to commit suicide? That's what I love about the AI is that I phrased it in a weird way. the AI new. We know what you're trying to say. Well, yeah. But okay, this is, this is my thing. All right, especially as somebody with kids. Yeah. It's like, to me, if you have a job where you can just exist, work your job, have a girlfriend or a wife, maybe have a kid, you should just, like, you're just like in the top 1% of humans on earth. You should be so thankful to even be able to live that basic ass lifestyle that to me like it's never really made sense how I could think about killing myself because even if everything was taken away and I had to work at the

fucking pharmacy or the corner store or whatever it's like I feel like I would be pretty alright with that like I don't know like now granted like I guess I just don't have like the trauma like I guess if you're like you know you've been fucking molested your whole life or some shit I can that's going to give you like a fucked up mental state more than like a lot of other people or Maybe, you know. But like, do you believe in, like, chemical imbalances in people's brain? They say, like, trauma kind of like rewires your brain and shit like that. I think it's just like, you know, we can't fathom that because we don't have those same chemical imbalances.

Yeah. And when you do have like those, like, when you do have those murky thoughts, you can just start being like, man, I'm just a burden to everybody. I'm pissing everybody off. Nobody really loves me, especially if you have like a fear of abandonment or if you don't have a strong attachment to your family, you can just start to feel really alone and just start to feel like the world would be better with that. I mean, is that a logical thought? No, it isn't. Even if it's irrational. Right, but when you're in that state of mind,

that's why you got to have people around. That's why, like, even recently, I started taking my mental health way more seriously. You know what I'm saying? Because I had a friend recently that unaligned themselves, and it's just like, it kind of threw me for a loop. It was just like, damn, like, why didn't you reach out? Why didn't you talk to somebody?

Like, you know what I'm saying? But it's like when you're in those dark corners in them dark pockets, it's really hard to get out. And you only got to be wrong one time with that shit. Yeah, and the substances obviously make it way worse because everyone I see that's depressants, on some type of drugs. It's like they pretty much are guaranteed to die.

It's like you do it until you die. It doesn't help if you're under the influence or something. Yeah. You're not even thinking straight. Alcohols are depressing. So then it could really kind of press the gas on something like that. That's why like I even made the decision like, man, man, let me get back on these meds. Man, let me get off this alcohol just because it's a dangerous thing.

Like you can't play with your brain like that. Yeah. A lot of my family. It runs in my family. Alcoholism, mental health issues. So that's why I don't drink and shit. Yeah. My parents were to put me on fucking antidepressants in high school.

Do you think you're really depressed or was just, or was just, just like misconstrued feelings and shit i was just acting out so bad i was getting arrested and like fucking just doing bad stuff like all the time like getting fucking suspended from school every couple weeks i got arrested like a couple times in one year and i'm like 16 so they like put me they like zombie you out right yeah it would put me on well butrin and i i remember like getting off of it and sort of like realizing like damn i just had like a fucking however long it was like four month period where i don't remember shit cloudy yeah like what's what's it feel like being on it like do you feel like you're

the Zan. Do you feel like, do you remember like what the effects were you high? I was just kind of you're out of it. But I was just like I wasn't like angry like the way I was. I wasn't acting out in the same way. I was just a little bit more like zombieed out. Like sedated pretty much. That's how I can feel sometimes like something. That's why like I would get off of me. Outside of them making you gain weight

like it would sometimes make you feel like the lights are on but nobody's home. Like I'm here. But like you know what I'm saying? Like you can tell me dope boy you want a million dollars. I'd be like oh that's cool. That's what everyone says that I talked to. You know, Susan just jumped off. clear you're like oh it just kind of it just balances you a little bit too much I'm for the first time right now taking medicine for depression as well so I'm taking first for the bipolar and the depression so I feel like it's it's setting in and it's working like I didn't want to believe I was depressed I was just like no don't try to just make me shove a pill down my throat but now that

I'm taking it like I feel does it inhabit your boners a little bit or no I'm not that you some of the meds can but I haven't had that that issue but I have heard that some of the meds they have some wicked nasty side effects so it's damn they're like shit like you know I'm taking all the and some of them could even make you have thoughts of unaliving yourself and they'll like a right dose and all that shit and it's like when they're giving you medicine they're throwing spaghetti against the wall they're just trying to see what sticks they don't know that's why they're always practicing that's what they're saying about kane is they're like he's basically just been experimenting with a shitload of different chemicals over the last couple years and that's like

like when act did the vlog with him where he was wearing the fucking leather clansman outfit he was like really negative and hateful in that like he was just saying like horrible things every little while. And I guess like now that they're kind of looking at that, that's different than where he's at now. But the album they just put out kind of expresses that because the album doesn't have any like rough edges. Like it's just sort of like smoothed out.

Like it's kind of easy to understand that like Kanye and his like massively medicated state would have made that album. For sure. And that's the thing like why I have so much empathy towards somebody because as somebody that's, you know, that has the same thing as him, I know what it can be like just to wig out

and say some shit. you really don't mean. That's what I was going to say. It's just messed up. And it's just like, and people, the messed up part about it, they're going to hold you to that

and they're not going to get you to pass. They're going to be like, no, you really feel like that. Those are your real thoughts. It's like, no, I was just having a manic moment. Shut the fuck up. Get out of my life.

Don't speak to me again. Like, imagine Adam, like in high school off on the pills. And then he comes back like to his normal self and they're like, bro, you've been saying the hard ar the whole time you're on these pills.

And you're like, ah, shit, fuck. Like, I don't even remember that. And the one thing about the meds, too, is that all the meds that you take, none of them mix well with controlled substances. Yeah. So that's another reason why I was just like, all right, man, you just got to stop drinking. Like, because if you're going to take the medicine seriously, you can't drink because it's damn like it's canceling it out. Literally.

You shouldn't just take the medicine. So, you know, shout out to anybody dealing with mental illness, man. I wish you need the best. Shout to all the glazers out there. The glazed God. You are. Are you planning on selling this? Yeah.

If it catches on, if people want to see it. No, it's caught on. my guy. I just had to just embrace it. Like, man, why am I fighting against this so much? Randy's donuts is piss. Yeah, I think. Shout out to my boy, the conclusion.

He designed this one. Shout out to the conclusion. I'm watching that Craig Smith one. He made a really good point that like, we've been stepping on the doughboy bit quite a bit. And as somebody who, you know, watches a lot of comedy podcast, that is kind of a cardinal sin to kind of like in terms of like,

Doboy is a character within this universe. And we would kind of like cut the characters short before it could reach to the point where it was like entertaining or like the funny or like the punchline you would say as a character it's kind of we step on it be like no you're lame and stupid don't boy and then he would never like get the full act out like perfect example when i when made the joke about sliding into jelisa's dms you know people can come off that like that's cringed as well like while you're talking i know there was you know other you know things that kind of made it weird but the reason when i'm rolling it out because i'm thinking all moose is going to talk about

when he slid in the famous chick's DMs or he'll say something. So that's how I'm thinking about it. Because that's how Craig and all those dudes would enter the combo. Then we just all kick it. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm not just saying something random just to say. But what I can say, though, is in my experience here, it's all starting to gel a little bit more, you know, at least for me personally. Like these conversations are better.

They're not like, we're not coming in here and making it a doughboy breakdown fest. It's like, we're able to come in, have some good conversations. I take the criticism well. I don't bitch and cry about it. Like, you know what I'm saying? I try to have some insight. takes and I just think that is working. So I personally think it's getting better. And shout out to all the fans, because the fans was 100% against me before, but at least now I was tipping the scale a little bit. No, I definitely. I like that pod for sure. And I feel like everywhere you came before No Jumper,

it was kind of like a team. Like, we're all going to work together to make each other look good. Exactly. You come to No Jumper is kind of a lot. My fuck is a stop your ass out. Yeah, it's like the lines then. It's like, oh, if I fucking make Doobboy look bad, I might get a job up here. You know, it's like a very different energy. You jiggle his boobs. Exactly. Let me rub his nipples. Let me suck him off. Jigaboo to Jigaboo. I hope we have Craig back for some more stuff, man. I thought I think about some cool flavor.

What do you think? I like Craig a lot. And I was kind of like wondering if like, you know, it's kind of weird when you have like a three person pod, the idea of like adding a fourth because then you kind of feel like any more than four becomes like kind of cluttered. But man, I did think he was pretty good.

And it was kind of making me wonder like, man, maybe he is like the piece that Monday kind of needs. And this is why I would definitely, you know, champion that. because he's very unique in where he does have a street side about him. He's from a very tough spot in Pasadena. He knows the gang shit. But he's really fucking smart. He reads a lot of books.

Like he's really insightful and he really is like a very cerebral person. So you get the best of both worlds because if we're talking about, okay, you got to put the tunas on one thing. You put the street people on one thing. He's kind of like both. The culmination of the best culmination of what we have, I believe. So hopefully. Yeah, I like Craig. Yeah.

But I get what you're saying as well with the people. and it's like, how do we bring a guest in? We got like regular hosts. There's so many of them. But I've been listening to Joe Budden. I took a break for quite a few years after like Rory and Mole left. And I like their dynamic. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I like it. And they be having up to, you know, six, seven people sometimes. They do. But I feel like once you get to the territory of having four, five, six hosts, you got to like really work on that dynamic and really like have conversations about how this is supposed to go because that's like one thing that you'll notice. with Joe is that like he'll do like his fucking monologue like his opening rant and you can tell

that like everybody's kind of been briefed on how this is supposed to go because it's like a lot of times on here you know like people just kind of slowly figure it out but like you know it's it's like you know I don't know that like we have ever really had a conversation about like okay when we intro this topic I'm going to give the initial rundown and then my opinion and then we jump to the first person who has a contrarian or a perspective on that initial take. Like, I feel like the more people you add, the more you have to work on the structure of how exactly this is supposed to play out. But I do think that's the kind of thing that like, no jumpers always struggle with because of the fact that, like, we know, we've tried to do pre-production and all that kind of stuff. And typically people don't show up.

I think you could do it now for sure because you're good at kind of like pinpointing that type of stuff, you know, just to give you one glaze. You're like, you can be the one that's like, I'm going to introduce this. Okay, I see you have a different opinion. You know, we're going to introduce you here and kind of, you know, I think a little produced segment, at least trying it out would be good. Because you could tell that it's like kind of the, like the Knicks, you know, they got their star players and there's role players and like, you know, E. Mani or what's bro's name that you're beefing what the Lyskin do?

Like, you know, they kind of like stay quiet a lot, you know, and kind of pick their spots and don't overtalk Joe and ish and ice because they're kind of in parks. They're kind of like the main starting. people and then the other guys fill in the gaps so everyone has to be on the same page like you said it makes sense yeah it is kind of crazy like that podcast like they talk about it like they're

overworked and when I look at it and I'm like you guys just do like three podcasts a week that's it even with the Patreon ones included even with the Patreon I get a little lost in that like how many episodes they do extra for the Patreon and stuff yeah but it seems like they're getting money so it's like pay me Joe but a man you don't want to

fucking show up golly Have you thought about a no jumper Patreon? We have members. Oh, we have it already. I didn't know this. And you guys are the Patreon. I'm talking about when I talk about the members. Oh, okay, I got you.

It's like Patreon on YouTube pretty much. Yeah. Patreon adjacent. If Joe Bonn's podcast had started out with members, they never would have done the Patreon thing. I think they only do the Patreon thing because they have been doing it since the beginning because it's such a pain in the ass to fucking use the functionality. Yeah.

All those guys are grandfathered in like the Matt and Shane's. It's like they're from fucking 10 years. go they were on Patreon. Their shit is like a dollar. Yeah, it's a dollar. But I'm just saying like that format, I feel like you start a podcast today, get pop in,

people might go on a Patreon. If you have Patreon, I don't understand what would make you not just add members as well. Because the member's functionality of not having to leave the app at all is so convenient. Yeah, for sure.

So much better. Anyway, shout out to everybody. I'm going to be a dad. We'll read some super chats, Matt. I mean, um, I'm going to read some super chats to close it out. All right, big dog.

All right. These motherfuckers, but. I mean, we can read them. trying to cut that man okay um moves ex moves ex said doboy tell tim what you did in the bathroom we'll bring tim back for that one uh sev as for said adam this could be the next big stoner movie like harold and cumar or pineapple express break aunt hefe out of jail escape guantanamo bay lush and

adam go to white castle that's funny that could be your next uh that could be the next one zone out zone said of nobody with a unique perspective get an interview on here after the single cult saga i definitely think i could be a solid interview i did stand up five times i got laid two out of five pretty good odds uh i would say um honestly like make a fucking instagram real of yourself presenting yourself talking about who you are or what you feel like you could bring to the table as an interview and then try to get attention on it maybe email it to like some of the people I know Jumper besides me you know like send it to Josh at nojumper.com you know and I'm not saying like I would never look at it but it's definitely

going to be like harder to get my attention than maybe some of the other people on the staff so make a one minute piece of content that you think gets the point across and then try to get into the hands of anybody who works at no jumper so that hopefully they could see the vision that's honestly my perspective because somebody just saying like hey I think I'm dope that means nothing. Tell us what makes your perspective unique, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Mixed Marshall, Mike said, I'm a little behind in the live.

Doboy, I root for you actually because I usually generally root for people to win, but why are you saying things like, it rumbles my tummy? Because if I eat spicy food, it rumbles in my tummy. We've all got that. My stomach, Eric.

This is only a $2 donation, but Wally said, Adam, this ain't it, brother, do got to go. Nah. Yeah. ABM. REL said, I just ordered

some Panda LMAO. Let's go. Yeah, right you did. Beijing beef. 063 Rello G said, Adam, talk about PC baby Draco and chunky Scud.

We did talk about that a little bit, but for sure we're going to end up talking about that tomorrow. Yeah, tune in tomorrow for that one, guys. To the Tuesday show. Skin Christ said,

well, is a member, so shout out to him. And then that's it for the donors. So shout out to everybody watch this. Shout out to you all, man. We'll be back. next Monday, real, real soon.

Shout out to everybody who watch this. Go watch Michael Blackson interview. I can't get jiggy with this shit. Yeah, that's one thing I would recommend. Or also, what's the other one? I dropped some other shit, too. Oh, the Craig Smith interview has me, doughboy, lush, and Craig Smith.

That was a pretty good one. That was a good one. That's up on the channel as well. Shout out to everybody who watch this. We love you all. Peace. Love y'all.