No Jumper - The No Jumper Show Ep. 50 (The Virgil Episode)

Episode Date: July 8, 2020

Welcome back to The No Jumper Show. Housephone returns with Adam22 and Camgirl to bring you all the latest stories in Hip Hop and Internet Culture --- No Jumper News Discord: https://discord.gg/paeuHD FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper FOLLOW CAM GIRL https://instagram.com/camgirl https://twitch.tv/camgirl FOLLOW LIL HOUSE PHONE https://instagram.com/lilhousephone Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat #NoJumper #Live Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I kind of want to change that that as pretty. Pretty boy Larry or pretty pretty Larry. I forget the fuck his name is. But he, this is actually a fashion demics. Post. Connection. Because it was posted about how Larry was styling smoke perp or a little pump or some shit.

And so I went, I think I looked at my DMs and he had messaged me or some shit. So I messaged him or I forget, maybe I messaged him first, but the way he was like trying to pull up and this is just like one-in-shirts that he had me model for him or some shit. I just like that. There's so, no disrespect to Larry,

but like there's so many cool brands. that are posted and that's the shirt you choose. Hey, this is the fashion dimmays connection. You don't I fuck with it? I mean, it's very you. It's very me, right? I love Pokemon. That's a fact.

And it's, yeah, it's very you. He's wearing an ATL hat, like, you know. He could at least been wearing the Braves hat, at least. Not a, what, just a regular stock Braves hat from Lids? Yeah, this is just a regular. Lids.com? I mean, sure. You can't go in there right now, right?

Does Lids even exist anymore? Yeah, what's me? Meek Mill bought a, like, like, What, like one in a mall? Or he like started a one, right? Didn't Neek Mill have like franchise of lids? Like he's like Rick Ross with Wingstop, right? That's fire.

He needs to make a lid song. I've read so many hot new hip hop headlines that are just like connecting random fucking things together that like Meek Mill owns a lids. Maybe. I don't know. That's kind of tight. I don't really see him wearing that many fittets though. That's what that's kind of crazy.

Nobody wears fittings anymore. What do you mean? No. What are you talking about? There's a fit. You look like Fred Durst. Bro, you have no. connection to the drip world at all.

Our fit is back? His connection to the drip world is following fashion temics and getting a pretty chain. A pretty Pokemon Pikachu shirt. Pretty Larry chain. I used to be out here rocking a visor upside down and backwards. Yeah, that I just explained to our doubt point. Off of ecstasy.

Speaking of the drip, running around. Speaking of the drip, we got the vintage. We got the vintage e-vizzo, Playboy Ibizus. These ain't diesel. These is his visas. Exactly. What is the BBC shirt? BBC the hundreds collab Black Lives Matter team. Oh, that's the new.

Oh, okay. It looks like it's a little big. I'm telling you. It's a little big. You can size down, right? Yeah, it's all right. You looted it. I like my shirts a little bit.

More importantly, you have a new addition to your face. Oh, yeah. And you got it on the side that shows when you pod. I didn't even mean to do that. If you got on this side, you would have tried to switch with me. Honestly, that's true. If I would have got on the other side, I would have been like, yo. Just let me flex his drip.

Yeah, let me just like that guy who comes into school like this the day after he gets his tattoo right here. I still do that now. Wait, but I thought you kind of have to do that. Isn't it bad if it like chafes again your shirt? Yeah, but you know that the dude is doing it like a week after still. He still got the plastic wrap on. It's already healed. Yeah.

He's just trying to flex the tap. That's real. That happens. Has your mom seen it yet? No, she's not home yet. I'm excited to see you. So you got Rhonda on the face. Yeah.

To show love to mom. Yeah. She's not going to be happy about it. She's not going to be happy about it. You think the she'll learn to be happy about it in time? Yeah, it's not like if it was bigger and bolder and like crazier. How much bigger can it get? Are you just?

face and it's pretty damn big. It's pretty fucking bad. Yeah, but there's like, bro, come on. Klingh across your forehead. No, we know, like, there's niggas with Pikachu on their eye. Like, come on. Like, it's not that crazy. He got all the yellow done in and everything, too.

So it's like, even though he's a black dude, he got all the yellow. He's like, it stands out like crazy. It really does. Dripy. Well, if you got your mom's face, but like your eye is her eye and then. There's niggas that have way crazier face hats and it's not that crazy. Wait, have you really seen somebody like with like a face using one of your eyes? I'm just wondering.

That would be a nice portrait. tattoo for your mom. That would be so creepy and weird to see. Because then your eye would be moved. First of all, that couldn't even happen because your eye is going to be so big and then they're going to make the other eyes the size of your eye. By the time it heals is going to look like the most embarrassing, cringy picture of a person you love? I feel like that exists. Why don't they just put somebody else's face over your face? I'm sure someone has done that before. I'm super down for that honestly. Who's face would get tattooed on top of your face? Pikachu. I knew you're going to say that. But you know that the dude who has,

the fucking Pikachu on his face, drippy, he's the same dude that has Adolf Hitler tattooed on him, which to me... We talked about this before. Just the most bad. And then we were like, we were like, let's get somebody to make a

SpongeBob Hitler and, I mean, a Pikachu Hitler and somebody sent me like five of them already. I just know that there's enough Pikachu fandom that Pikachu Hitler has to have existed at some point. It is. Pikachu everything exists.

Pikachu everything. Yep. That's so real. You jack off the Pikachu porn? Pikachu porn. You're sure right Pikachu fan fiction. I used to hang out with a girl who did like Family Guy porn.

No, Simpsons. Did as in like she drew both actually. She drew it or she was an actress and like she like dressed up as a like cosplay. Was she all yellow? Yeah. That's weird. Very weird, right? That is weird.

But it was like during an era where there was tons of parody porn. That was huge. Her boobs are yellow? I'm pretty sure. I hope like they use good ink that like you don't just get it on the other person or the bed sheet. I think it probably gets everywhere. I mean, honestly that probably was happening. It was like a Pikachu murder.

Like mustard just going Everywhere So you guys have never done anything with food during sex No I used to like this porn or where What's her name? Like Crystal Lust or something like that She was like eating donuts off this niggas dick

That was far Shout out of Crystal Luss Classic BBW porn right there You never seen the big sausage pizza website Oh yeah yeah of course of course I knew a girl that did that And she came up from work and she was complaining about how she had pizza sauce All over her ass

She was using that as like Lou No, it's just like you have to like fucking suck through the pizza and there's like the sauce So you have to like just get some on your butt I would think you would shower before you go home but yeah facts Maybe they don't have really good showers there maybe don't I mean don't they shoot porn and like air like Airbnbs and like rentals and shit oh shit I think there's like a certain coronavirus I think there's like a certain number of like houses that they just film most of them at's a fact that I would want to get like hosed off at least hosed off. If you had sauce on your butt, yeah, for sure. What are you just going to sit all the way over there?

I'm not fucking with you, bro. Earlier, he burped into the fucking mic and, like, blew it into this. No, I breathed it into this because I feel like that's the most, like, humane way to do it. It's just to take all the toxins that are leaving your body and breathe them into the mic.

The proper way to do it is, and then blow it that way. Away from the person. I didn't have time for that. The worst is when they just blow it in your face. Blow what in your face? Burmese? Burb?

Who does that? I don't know. People used to do in high school. And did you know that? She'll slap the fuck out of anybody who does this. Once you... That shirt is fire. Thank you.

Section 8. Drip. I meant the shirt on outside. No, this one someone said to me. I forget the person. That's not Section 8. I'm so sorry. This is not Section 8 and neither is this.

Oh, really? Yeah. That's like the section. I really like this. Actually, it might be like, a Dove Brin Hill brand something. Huh? I don't know.

David Doebrook? Dove Hill. Dove Brin. David Doverick. That's a girl's name that sent me this. Yeah, that's a YouTuber. I know David Dopec, okay? He's the one that gives cars away.

Just got left hanging. Hopefully the camera wasn't showing me. I saw it. Boom. No. Okay. I want to say this is that I was definitely like starting to get back into the mentality of like leaving the house and shit.

And then this weekend, it really seems like it would have been inappropriate. But then also it kind of hurt because there's a lot of people out there partying and acting like shit is totally normal. But meanwhile, motherfucker's getting infected. left and right. Literally. I saw so many Airbnb mansion Hollywood Hills parties going on all weekend. And Arizona. I look you want to go there.

Everybody's going there to party because they have looser restrictions? Yeah, I think so. They've been doing that, though. Yep. I see, like, mansion parties in Arizona, like every weekend. That's crazy. I can't believe it. And it's insane.

It's just like shoulder to shoulder and like everyone just in the pool. How could you? At this point? Okay, now I know your cabin because I, I see a whole bunch of niggas dressed up standing around the pool. I saw girls in the pool. I saw stripper parties where they like hire a bunch of strippers.

Everyone's just, I saw a club that had a swimming pool inside of it now. There's like a new thing that they thought up. And you can just party like get in the strip. They have one in London. I forget what it's called. But like I don't think anyone goes in the pool ever. And they have it in Vegas.

No, but this is like a regular club and then they like made a pool like like not like an in ground pool because I know you're talking about there's a lot of like rooftop clubs and shit that just have a pool in middle. I forget there's one in Hollywood. The standard. Oh yeah, that's one too. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I just think anybody who's like really going on a party, maybe it's the old man in me, but no, I'm scared of it. I don't want to do it. I'm just, I'm also, I'm a part. And it's crazy with me, with me, because I am a party animal, but I'm also a sensible nigga.

And I'm like, this does not seem like the best idea right now or the best thing to be done. Yeah, but like, it's not going to be that big and it's not going to be niggas standing that close to each other like like fucking shoulder to shoulder. I'm not getting the pool and I'm leaving after I. Once you get loaded though, like be honest. If you take one Zan or if you drink five beers, you're going to forget the fact that we're in a pandemic 100% you're going to make out with the Uber driver.

You're going to be fucking rubbing your dick. She's hot, yeah. Or it's just like a guy, like some old Indian guys and make out of him, get corona from him. No, I'm pretty sure Uber drivers. I'm saying you. I'm sorry. It sounds like you're describing what you. It sounds like you're describing what you.

You wanted to do. Uber drivers have to have the little, like, they don't have to have it. They don't have to have it. I think it Uber every day. I've maybe seen two Uber's with that. I've taken Uber in a really long time. I've maybe seen two Uber's with that.

I was surprised. When I see people who are really like straight warriors out here and they have the plastic face mask that goes down around their face. If you go to a Korean supermarket, every single person there has it. Really? Every single person.

Damn, that's fire and smart. You got to be smart, man. Good for them. I agree. I want one. I've been looking on Ali Baba. So you want to get that? thing. I would way rather that have that than a mask,

although I feel like most people are doing both at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. But if it's like a hat that just like puts a piece of plastic, I would like get a beekeeper helmet. Have you seen? I need to fit it with that with the beekeeper shit. You should fucking drop it. Blasie, let's go.

I swear that exists. No, have you seen the pictures of this woman going on a flight and she has the whole like, what do you even call it? Kind of like a laundry hamper thing, but it's like clear and see through, but she just puts it all over herself. Really? Yes. See, I wonder how hard, how hard car are they going to be going through TSA with

that. I mean, she got in. She took a picture on a flight. Right. She might have had a prime or what, no, it's not prime. Amazon, she had Amazon Prime. Got to skip the line. It is what I'm thinking of. What is it called? Oh, clear. Clear, clear, clear. Where you can just get through. We have that. Or at least we did. Amazon Prime at the airport.

Before the whole show. It is kind of like that. I love it. I'm so stupid. I, I didn't realize global entry. You have to sign up separately. So I only have TSA pre-check and not global entry and I'm like, I have, but if you get global entry, you get you get TSA. Okay.

And I have to sign up twice. Did you just do outfit change? What was that? I like it. What is it? Saki World. Shout out Saki, man. Oh shit.

The drip just keeps on coming. Gothic, the drip just keeps adding on. If you take off the t-shirt and you have like a cool Chrome Hearts windbreaker underneath. You know, white, like a wife beater? Wifebeater, even better, yeah. Windbreaker. How are you going to wear windbreaker underneath?

He's got so many layers he could. Yeah. So let's just talk about it. I know you guys are jealous that I got to do the Drewski interview. I didn't even see that until like a hour. going on. Oh, really? Oh, you dropped it? It's not out yet, but I did do it. I was like, this fucking bastard. There was one thing I realized, like, while I was, like, researching him is that, like, he's

really tapped in with, like, the frat culture and shit, too, because he's, like, he's, like, and that's why he's able to, like, look at rappers and realize why they're so funny is because he's kind of in both worlds. Like, he sort of came clean about that right away. He has, like a character. He's going to college. I know that character, but, so he's actually, like. Yeah, he probably got that from being in those scenarios. He was just going to college and just, like, observing people and stuff, basically.

Because it's like there's no way you would be able to make those jokes unless you were in those situations. That's why his rap shit is so funny too because it's authentic because he literally is just doing what he's seeing. He seemed kind of bummed when I didn't realize that he was already rapping. I didn't know that either. I had no idea either. Oh, okay. Yeah, all right. Because you're saying like his rap shit as in like him impersonated rappers.

Yeah, yeah. No, I didn't know like him actually. Because I didn't know he rapes. Today, because he seems surprised that I didn't know that he'd be rapping when we were doing the interview. So then today I went through his Instagram again and watched. like at least like four months of stuff and I did not see any rapping and that kind of confused me. Maybe I do think that when he dropped the four lifers merch, it was like V-loan merch, but it was like the instead of a V, it was the two fingers crossed. I think he did drop a song with that. Oh, okay. So maybe he

I'd actually want to hear that song. Maybe I just missed it. He's probably fired dude. He's probably fired dude. My lover. My lover. It's funny too because as soon as we got done doing his interview, I plugged him with Desto Dub and he pulled up to the van and uh that made me realize. that the first time that I ever saw Drewski and the first thing I ever did with it was I messaged dub and sent him the video of like the dude like with the drink and lean and like rolling a blood outside the 7-Eleven and shit

just telling everybody like oh I got lean I got Zanz I got whatever and I sent that to dub and I'm like this is 100% you and that was the first time I ever fucking sent him and then I sent him to him immediately that's fire and I hooked him up with Khalil from Wicked Thoughts too so I'm over here just you do an interview with me and I'll send you out to all the drip factories all over the city so he'll stop wearing the same

V-Lone shirt? I mean, he can wear whatever you want. I'm not trying to style. He upgraded. He had the, he had the bedazzle V-Len shirt on the last video. The one he was like, bro, that one was me. He was talking about like he was like with the OBJ, the football player and like, yeah, I taught him everything you know. And it was like somebody boxing was like, yeah, I came up and I hit him with this.

And I like, you know, it taught him. Like, he was saying that he just like taught everybody everything they knew. Somebody needs to send me the V-Lone Nav collab so that I can just pull up dress to the nines. I'm going to get on the, what are the albums? that people use now to buy clothes? Avant. You got to go to Avon space.

Avant space. Shout out to Avon space. Last time I heard it was grailed. Stock X. Stock X. No, shout out to Deepop. My depop is dropping tomorrow. Right.

I actually have it loaded up, though, so I can actually drop it tomorrow. There was a while with the store where, like, my girl is always telling me, like, you need to open a depop to get rid of some of the shit that people give you. But I never wanted to do it because I felt like, oh, somebody's going to feel bad. I'm not going to send me a hoodie. I'm not going to wear it and then I just put it on my depop. Or I wear it one time and then put it on my depot. Either way, it seems kind of fucked up.

Oh my God. Wait, speaking of that, can we talk about the situation? Okay, so I want to get your opinion on this. So this brand absent, right? Yes. They have some cool glasses that don't plan on, they don't plan on driving for months, right? Theophilus London DMs them and it's like,

yo, I'm about to do the cover of Rolling Stone. Let me get a pair of those glasses that aren't, you know, that aren't about to come out for months. Why would he be on the cover of runs? That's why I said. Anyway, so. No offense. So they're like, they're like, okay, cool.

Send them the glasses for free way before they come out. And then the next day, somebody sends the absent dudes a picture of the glasses at Wasteland. Oh. That didn't, for $50 when they were planning on releasing them for $150. So Theophilus London scammed them and then sold it to Wasteland? I don't know about scam. I don't know about scam. I guess you could call it a scam.

Oh, that's definitely a scam if that's actually how it happened. That's exactly what happened. Yeah. The weirdest thing is like, okay, if you get sent something and you don't like it or you wear it once, and I think you could sell it. But like if you ask for it and it shows a bit of your way to ask for something that wasn't even out yet. Exactly. And it ends up at a consignment store the next day.

Are they like big like square piece looking ass glasses? Kind of. And then they say absent and cursive on the side. Oh, I think I saw fashion demics posting about this and forgot to to do a deeper and do it. Do a drip investigation. Yeah, I can't believe that happened. I forgot about that. That was crazy. No, but that, that, so now, like, we have this space and I don't have the stores, so it's like less people, like, bombarding me with, like, random shit. So now I'm kind of thinking, like, maybe I should get a depop. But also, I'm just not being bombarded with shit. So, like, I can tap you in. I can't have anything to put on the depop. I'm tapped in with them. Well, you have a corporate connect. I mean, no, but they fucking, they, like, sponsor my shop and, like, make my shop, they're going to make my shop like a main shop on the page.

What the fuck? Make my shop a main shop. Tap in, man. No, it's crazy. Like, I've sold, like, the most random shit. I've made a lot of money off of it. it. You be selling shit for cheap though. I'm going to sell my shit for the high. I want people to get it. I just want to get rid of it. Because I'm making way more than I did when I brought like trash bags full of clothes to like crossroads and like Buffalo Exchange.

There ain't no future and sell it to fucking Buffalo Exchange. Well, I'm not trying to make a future off of it, but I just want to get rid of it and my closet. Yeah, like whenever I have like I have an abundance of stuff right now. Like I got way too much shit just over the years and because I buy a lot of shit and also get I probably get more free shit than both y'all to be honest oh yeah yeah because you go everywhere and everyone's DMs no I'm not I'm not the office Lennon they'd be DM in me you hold down relationships with like hundreds of companies and you just hit them up yeah yo I gotta get this man that new shit is

fire or if I'm following them and I see them to fire and they already sent me shit before I'm like yo you're also that dude who like pull up to Melrose empty the trunk beforehand and then you just walk up and down the block and just like oh yo man yeah I co-os on no jump or shit like you should let me get this i know adam i could get adam rock this shit let me get this you know it's crazy though because if i was that nigga you would be hearing about it way more but the fact that niggas do that to me wanted me to be that nigger to give you stuff or try to pay me to get you to wear stuff but they get you wearing it on here is significant as well but they also could be thinking like oh there's probably one time where i came here brought you a shirt was like yo wear this because this kid paid me and then

i did oh and he paid you yeah you paid me i forget what the shirt was it was a random ass Super random as shit that I wore. Most random shirt ever. That was the only time I ever did that. I'm the only time I'm the Melrose nigga that's going up and down the street. Like, I work for no jumper. Niggott, I don't never do that. I don't think either one of us used no jumper as like a flex.

Why not? I've known people throughout my life that would be like be fucked with me a little bit and they'd be standing outside of clubs. Like, man, I'm with no jumper. Let me in. I would literally rather kill myself. First of all, I've seen it. First of all, I'm never standing outside the club unless I'm just never standing outside the club. Maybe not the club, but like a rap show.

No. No. Not you guys. If people ask me if I know Adam, I say no. No, not really. We just do the podcast. This girl was DMing me like, yo, aren't you the guy from no jumper? I'm like, what's that?

And she was just like, Adam 22. She was like, that's the only reason I know you. And I'm like, I have no idea what you're talking about. Really? I was just playing, yeah, I was playing it all. I like it. You know? You could do that.

I'm trying to do the exact opposite. He's hurt. He's sad right now. He's so sad. Bro, I'm just trying to do the exact opposite. Yeah. You know? That's just weird.

do this every week. I don't need to flex it. I've known you for too long to be trying to flex like that, bro. That's weird. Yeah, I'm just, I don't know. I just don't know. I just feel so uncomfortable. You can leave that to the niggas that you've known for like a year, six months. Yeah. No, for the people I've known for like them for like a month. Yeah. Who usually does it. Those are the people that do that and look where they are now. They're not here. I can't really fuck with a cloud chaser like that, man. I was like to say, if I was like that, would you even, would either of us like that? Would you even have us here doing this? I don't know. But people just like are cloud chasers until they get to a certain. level and then they get used to it and then they kind of stop acting like that i feel like because like you like people who have never been exposed to any level of like fame or cloud or whatever are like they go crazy over the littlest shit yeah it's like that's like that's one of the main thing that makes you feel like separate from them is that like if you're going to be able to like hang out with me for like long term you need to like be able to be around a rapper and not act like a fucking weirdo losing your shit like oh my fucking god yeah that's probably like rule number one well i think it's because me and him have been exposed to rappers and whatnot and

people before we met you. You've been having future in your DMs. Definitely not. Future? No. No. Never happened. That's kind of deep. I was going to say it. That would be pretty hard, though, right? That would be a hard flexing. I'm not going to lie. Do you want to do that? No. No, that's the worst type of bitch. Any bitch that'd be flexing like this rapper in their DMs or whatever? I'm like, I don't give a fuck. So you want me to know that this

rapper wants to fuck you? No, the funny ones are when they expose them. Yeah, but like, lucky said she going to, she going screenshot it even if I say thanks. Like, bitches will just screenshot anything you say, so it don't even matter. Like, it's like, is that really a flex? Is that really an expose? That was, like, in the early stages of me being sort of in a relationship was when I realized, like, oh, yeah. Every bitch as you ever talk to would try to come back and be like, he flirted with me. But not even that is, like, when you are sort of, like, halfway in a relationship,

you, like, hit up a random girl, and then you just, like, search your name on Twitter, like, the next day. You just see, like, 15 likes. Oh, my God. 722 just DM me? Like, oh no. Nope. It's over. No, or like the deceased artist.

Oh my God. Wait, what do you mean? Anytime someone passes away. Oh, yeah. Girls are just flexing the DM. Like, he just DMs like he just DM me six months ago. And he sent me a heart. And they have to learn the lesson over and over every time because I feel like when

Pete died, there was this fucking war against that one girl who was making the fuck Xanax shirts and shit, remember? Oh, like that model girl? I forget her name, but she was some random-ass model who was making those shirts. He was dating her for like a week. Yeah. Oh, that girl. Because people obviously fucking with like 1,500 different girls and shit. And so like every single one of them got to start a clothing line or something.

That was bugged out. The funniest one is, so OJZ just posted wavy lashes. Shout to O'Di Zee by the way. Is that what his girls doing or something? Obviously. And it's funny because like the girls that follow O'Dizier are like, oh my God, O'Dizier, are dropping lashes. Like, he's about to make us like cute for summer. Wow.

That's fine. I mean, it's very nice of him. Is he like acknowledging that it's basically his girl's thing? That it's probably his girlfriend. But like I want to say it's probably. Are there photos of her in the marketing stuff or is O.GZ actually putting lashes on and like fluttering his eyes? No, no, no. He just has the pictures of the lashes.

But like let's be real, guys, is O.GZ dropping lashes? I don't know. Okay. He can't. Anyone can sell anything. Benny the butcher told me that his girl has like a hair salon or like a hair extension company or some shit. And he just like invested and now they got, she got a thing that she's doing. and he invests but I don't know like how many Griselda fans are really trying to buy hair extensions

I don't know well the Griselda fans girls might want to buy some hair extensions or the yeah Griselda fans could buy it for their girl but as the problem though is that the Groselda fans don't have girls that's not I'm sorry I take it back I didn't mean it no listen it's not true I did not but they do have a lot of like wrestling fans and stuff so I wouldn't say that they have like more the type of girls that would be that would be buying hair extensions I mean a lot of Zelda fans are not like like like I would think that like if young thugs started selling hair extensions well young thugs fans might start actually buying their extensions for themselves but you have to get really really big to have like a significant percentage of girl fans is how I see the world oh yeah

or like you just have to have that you have to have that type of thing that that applies to them or you have to just be so good at that at whatever you do that females start acknowledging you because I don't know like I was just talking to me and snop were on the phone for a really long time, actually. Shout out to him. He's cool as fuck. No, we were talking about just like rappers and their fan bases and shit like that. And like Lucky is a rapper that didn't have, like, I feel like a couple years ago. Like, it was rare if you found like a bad bitch that listened to Lucky or some shit like that.

Or like that listen to this type of weird rap or whatever. And then now it's like the typical Instagram bad bitch would be listening to like the underground cool shit. you know maybe sometimes i don't feel like anybody lists the underground rap anymore i feel like everybody just listens to like spotify playlist now no there's a there's a there's a like a demographic of girls that are like my favorite artist is goo new no oh god that's crazy if i met a girl and she said that i wouldn't know what the fuck to say if a girl like i think you might know who i'm talking about if a girl like i know a girl that like listens to rio the young o g like that's the that's the hottest thing i've ever seen in my life hottest if he played if he paid you to talk about him

on the podcast a bunch of times i wouldn't be surprised because you have mentioned him like 1800 times he's literally just like my favorite rapper that's dope i'll fuck with that i listen to uh he's never acknowledged me ever at all but it's okay really that's cool you're in his dms and he ain't right wrote back i ain't writing his dms for what you don't tag him and shit you know my favorite rapper is really i was like i just play his song on my background or just like people ask me what it is and i'm playing i was like just say it or a lot of people just know i listen to that shit but did you see bfb to pac man oh my god you talk about that so so hard. I didn't realize that another one of his songs I saw a long time ago was called

to go play or like take out plate, some shit like that. But I saw that song a long time ago, I didn't put two and two together. He's fucking amazing. He might be the best at that type of music because it's so comedic, but it still has a street element to it, but he's just like he's not trying too hard. It just kind of messes all together. I like him just because he's like really funny. He's really, he kind of remind me of the baby in a weird way because he's like the fat baby. He's funny. He's witty. He's got like, you know,

actually like really good flow. And he seems like he's willing to, like, actually do the things that he needs to do to build the name for himself. Like, we've been talking a little bit. And it's like, he's just, like, really, like,

plotting on, like, what he needs to do. Because he said he has, like, labels throwing all kinds of deals out of this shit. This shit's going, going crazy right now. I think he's smart enough to know that, like,

maybe that's not necessarily going to be the best move for him and that he needs to make yourself hot. The fact that he built his own shit up first, like, he dropped a whole bunch of consistent. stuff and then did the feature that went big and then it's bringing all the other attention back to the other songs so you're going back and being like oh shit he has a whole catalog not just like the first hot song and like that was yeah and then have nothing else and honestly i'm gonna be honest

no disrespect to sada baby i didn't even need sada baby on that song his verse was so uh pacman's verse was so fire that it didn't even need but i feel like he because he acknowledged in his uh his c cheese interview i believe it was that he paid sada baby for that verse but I think that it's probably pretty smart on his part because just seeing Sider Baby and the title's gonna help make it go viral. But if you could pay somebody for a feature and they get off on the feature,

like that, like what he did, like I'm not saying he outshone Sider Baby because I think they both went crazy, but like he definitely like made himself like a significant, like if you're a Sider Baby fan, you might actually be a legitimate fan of this dude now. That's what happened. That's kind of crazy.

I didn't really know who he was. I just saw blah, blah, blah, blah, featuring Sada Baby. And at, and at this point, I've noticed now that especially with Rio, I'm going to bring up again, random niggas will get features from Rio and they will all get upwards of 500K, 800K a million just because it'll say Rio to Young OGX, insert name here. Because if you catch a rapper during the part of their career where they really have that juice,

like BFB did the same thing with TJ. Like they just on together, boom, got like 700,000 views or whatever. Just because like there's like, and it's still going on to a certain extent, but there's the extent to which having TJ on a song is just people are going to click that no matter what because they're just looking forward to hear what he has to say or whatever I mean a great example of it is like smoke perp on this new project which I listen to Florida Jit which sold like the worst of any sound cloud rap project maybe ever or maybe any album ever it's absolutely horrible um 5,000 copies is like really four yeah I mean just keep in mind that like Lil Zan got absolutely destroyed for doing like 28

Yeah, that's crazy. Which seems like a lot now. Like crazy. Crazy because the bar for the number keeps getting lower and lower. Right. I think even Yadi talked about it. He got what 50 or something that first week? Did he do 50?

That's not about for him. I thought it was more like 35. 35 maybe way back and then everyone was killing him for that. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. But see like that, see that's the thing too. It's like, okay, smoke perp tried to be like, oh, it was a free project, but like, isn't... Everything's a free project because everybody has out of music.

How many people are really listening to shit on stuff? Then you get a Rick Ross feature on that too? It was a lot of, Rick Ross, Denzo Curry, Ronnie J. did most of the production. But I mean, you can't say that barely anybody seems like they, like, it doesn't seem like they did anything to promote the project. But the reason why I even brought up Perp is because Perp went and got that NLy Chapa feature at the exact right time and had a song with like 20 million plays on it and shit. And it's like that.

Did that go on any project? Like, did that like? It was on his last album, Dead Star 2, I think, right? But I think he put it up. He put it out too far apart from one of the projects for it to really make that big of a difference. But I don't know. It's like when you're a perp at this point in your career, like what do you have to do to actually get people to pay attention to your music? Because, yo, he's kicking him with Noah Cyrus and shit.

Don't act like that's a flex. You don't think that's a flex? No. I think we know it. Shout to Noah Cyrus. Just because his Anarchy gang has already been there, I still think it's a flesh. I just think that we know what that means that like they already, the label already tried to set that up for. Lilzanne as a publicity style.

But do we actually believe that? Because when I had conversations with the label, they said that they dropped Lilzanne for saying that because it wasn't true. But then again, it kind of almost makes more sense that they would drop him because he said it because it was true. Yeah, because he leaked the info, which he wasn't supposed to be leaking.

That's like number one rule of energy. That's why I respect Lilzam, bro, because Lilzanne be keeping it real, bro. Like, he'd be leaking the info, bro. He's like, fuck it. You know, this fly, man. We got to get one of those candles. Put that up high on the list.

You know, and then it comes off again, but now you get gray dust. Oh, damn it. I forgot. You go, you were like 33 years old and you didn't learn that you can't put a gray sweatshirt on over a black shirt? No, I'm 36. Almost 36.

I'm 25. You're 25? Are you joking? I'll be 26. Damn, you got. You've been 26 in August. You got Joe Budden beard too now. We're still in our 20s, okay, old man?

Yeah, I don't know what the fuck. You're like 29, right? Eight. Okay. Fair enough. Two more years. How long until you start lying? Two years.

You forgot. You think it's not hot. and then you put a switch on you. I was going to bring a jacket, but I'm like, oh, it's going to be like 80 degrees. I just forgot this sweater was new. Like, you know, if it's an old sweater you wore before, it don't matter. But okay, let me, hypothetical situation. You're a little pumps manager, your smoke perps manager.

What are you doing right now? Because smoke perp dating in Osiris is like probably the best thing I could think of for him to do. Because once you're in like a high profile relationship. That's a high profile relationship. Does anyone care? I mean, it's high profile for perp for sure. But don't you think like, because when, Once you, like that's one thing that I heard Joe Biden say about Wale.

At one point was that Waleigh really never did like the public like high profile relationship thing. And that is like a way to make people sort of reimagine who you are as a person. Once they see you in a relationship, I see it all the time through my relationship with Lennon. As soon as you say the baby thing, as soon as you show that you're like taking the commitment to another level. Oh my God. People just flock because they want to pay attention to something real, you know. What would I do about? Is that real?

If you know that... Jay Cole's manager. Jay Cole manager? I mean, low pump and smoke perp. If you know that that's the whole purpose of doing it and like you guys are crafting that together, then what's real about that?

There's nothing real about that at all. That's niggas fabricating. No, but if you could be in a relationship and it feels real to the public, it's always going to feel fake to a certainly extent because as soon as you put it out into the public to any extent, then of course it's already a little bit fake because you're using it for what it's worth.

I just know, that too many bitches are going to try to come out the woodworks and try to be like laughing like huh like oh that's your boyfriend he just fucking ate my ass like two years ago some stupid shit like that you should probably be in a relationship where the girl that you're seeing won't care that you ate some random girls ass two years ago right that's what i'm saying yeah but like you know just like you just not going to stop the influxion like like of just random bitches just trying to say random shit you know but that's not the point the point is is that once you're in a high profile relationship people get to re-examine you rethink who you are

They look at you in like a lighter, like more like... Yeah, or just like to reconsider you because, okay, the problem is is that people love narrative and after a while as an artist, you start to appear like you're just a salesman, like you're just somebody who's out here trying to make money by just making money, making music is just one of the ways that you can sell shit to people and then people stop paying attention. Like a lot of times when people are paying the most attention to upcoming artists is when it seems like they're in this state in their life where they're just wild and

crazy and making music is just like one of the things that they're doing. but they're basically just like running wild. That's exactly why the smoke perp shit is going to, if that's what they're doing or if that's what's going on, that's why it's going to look and feel force because it's just a repeat of something that another rapper already did. I would just think it has to be someone else. It would have to feel real.

Yeah. Like, I don't want to. That's to be Jesse Taylor. No. Him and Jesse Taylor. That's the last thing. People don't want to see him slumming it. No offense to Jesse Taylor.

And that's the thing too. It's like, bro, you already went down that route and were like arguing with her on academics. and now you're trying to date Noah's side. He should be dating Addison Ray. I don't know who the fuck that is. I was thinking more like Ruby Rose, but like I don't think that would happen.

I don't think Ruby Rose is. I don't think she's trying to do that. She would do a little TJ most recently. She's more lit than her show. Yeah, she can't, you know. She's going to be like 5K, huh. She's going to laugh at her. Oh, uh, black China.

Oh, but that's been done way too much. People would more talk about that, I feel like. But okay, I think Ruby Rose would maybe date a little pump. Probably not. I don't think so. He's too young. Well, he's like her age. I don't know.

Cardi got Iggy, bro. And Cardi has ascended to a new level of just super sardom. I feel like. But the thing about being Cardi and being in a relationship that's so amazing is that he literally impregnates her and she has his child. And they don't say nothing. Every woman, every woman you have ever witnessed on the internet who gets pregnant loves documenting the fuck out of it.

They love showing the bump. They love taking those cute. photos with the baby. They want to take a photo with the baby daddy and stuff. She literally did not show one single thing of her being pregnant. And the only time she even acknowledged it was once she started getting so much shit for like not caring about her baby or like not wanting the world to know that she was pregnant. She finally came out on her Instagram story and was like, yes, I have a baby. No, I'm not offended by it. Or no, I'm not embarrassed of it or whatever. But that just puts you, I mean, that just puts you into. I want to say that it's because.

Cardi's artistry and that he wants to protect his image. She might just be a private person like that too though. I'll buy it. She needs to be flexing that baby. She fucking needs the hype way more than him. But I think that they're they're kind of like contouring that in a way to where they're like we're gonna drop the baby like. But they never even once they had the baby, it was still like, oh, some of our sources

say that they had the baby, but there was no like actual announcement or anything. It's the whole, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know. Cardi and... Maybe there's like some old pictures. I've seen a paparazzi shot of her, like no makeup, him, not dressed all crazy. And they were just like out in public, like talking or whatever. And it looked real as fuck and just looked like they were not like, Cardi not hyped on the fact that this photographer was taking the picture of him.

But the question is, is like, if you're Cardi and you're not letting your baby mama like document her pregnancy at all, when does... I think that kind of... He's making her not doing this. When does that kind of, why the fuck else would she not be doing it? He's the secret of gay vampire. But this is the thing is that when does that segue into like being basically like weirdly controlling and stuff? Because it doesn't seem like she wants to be hiding her entire life the way he is. You are just making that assumption that she doesn't want to be.

I'm making the assumption based on every single thing that I've seen publicly about them. Women love showing their babies. I know. Every woman you've ever met wants to show up that journey at least a little bit. Of course. Especially somebody who has absolutely nothing going on career-wise. No, of course. And you're saying that because, like, you are involved in, like, in a really public, like, reveal my baby through YouTube world.

But it's, like, not every, not every, especially since she is on, like, the downside kind of her career where she isn't as popular. She needs something. No, I know that she needs something. And he basically told her, no. I mean, I'm dark. I can see it going both ways. I can see it going. Are you serious?

She also just wants to keep her private and knows that he has. has this weird fucking weird ass fan base that might try to leak the address he has a very good reason for keeping shit private which is that he has cultivated this air of mystique and mystery around him and she clearly has not at all but she's

still being forced not and that's not forced she's along for the ride it's not like she's got gun to her head but that's what I'm saying it's like that extends like we're kind of saying the same thing this in different terms because that his whole secretive shit it extends on to her to where she knows that and she doesn't want to be

involved in his whole weird fandom and shit. So maybe she's pulling back a little bit. I think it has been made explicit at many times throughout the course of their relationship that this relationship is not to be documented because they don't do any documentation of it. You never see him together. He bought her, she

bought him that Lambo. They had like, they had like pictures and shit of like them in the bathroom and in a living room and shit. I've seen. A couple. Yeah, I mean, a couple is enough for him with a nigga that post like once every two years. I forget, though, how did that Lambo thing go down. Was it a leak or was it like? I think I don't know it. It was like a story,

like an official story, you know? She posted it up or he did? I don't know. Somebody posted it. I need to get deeper into the Cardi community. Yeah, I'm about to say, you're barely scratching the surface. I want to know what the Cardi community thinks of their relationship because to me, her hiding everything is so bizarre, you know, it's just I don't know. But anyway, as long as we're doing our community thing. Gay vampire, vampire bubs. He's watching this right now. Just like, yeah, he's so nice. Stop saying. I'm gay. I mean, it's kind of like how Kanye didn't want his babies in keeping up with the Kardashians. Oh, that's totally understandable.

If you're that rich and famous, it's just totally makes sense to not exploit your kids. But if you kind of like need that, then it's totally like, oh, yeah, whatever. I'll show my kids to the world. I mean, but it's true. If you need to exploit your kids, you should do it. I mean, I don't think there's anything like that bad about showing your kids to the world. But if you can afford to not do that, then I think it's also probably pretty enviable. She might be able to afford to not do that.

And like, she might not want to take that route. Especially if her baby daddy is Playboy Gardy. Especially. Yeah. And especially since she knows he has this gay vampire aesthetic that's like him. He only pops out in the night on opium for 10 days. For 10 days. He said that in the song.

It's dark and I'm on opium for 10 days or what? No, he just said I've been on opium for the last 10 days. I just, ever since I've seen those tight-ass pants, I've been just freaked out. There's something different In the mesh shirts This dude different. Yeah, but he'd be having Matthew Williams drip him up.

You don't even know what that is. So let's talk about, let's consult our Cardi community expert over here. Let's talk about Jetson going and selling a Cardi song for what? 17,000, 20,000 to a fan and then the fan exposed him.

Allegedly. But did you see the video? I saw the video. The video is very damning. He tried to say that he was trolling. You can't know. And that it was all cap. It sounded like he very,

very seriously was trying to get this money. And the song that he was playing, like the snippet that he was playing that was supposed to sell to him was the song called Place that's produced by Pierre Bourne. It was not even produced by Jetson and made it. Pierre was pissed. And Pierre

tweeted karma's a bitch but that's also a lyric from one of his song so he kind of like doubled it. That makes sense. Yeah, that's fine. He tweeted it right as his news broke too. But just be, but if you were like a producer who wanted to be selling like a big artist songs on the low wouldn't you if you had access to some other songs because it's not like yeah for sure

you know you're gonna have access to other songs probably that other people produced just because everybody's sort of passing it around and stuff but especially if it's gonna be on the album and shit like if you're a person who was 20,000 dollars to buy an unreleased playway cardi cardi song what like how do you monetize that purchase in any way like you just what posted on a fucking we transfer and that's some cardi community fans like they get off on that they love it that's such a want it just to have it and it was in like bitcoin so it wasn't like I mean like you know Obviously, that's real money. But like, to him, to this person, it might have been like he just, maybe he didn't even have the money.

And he was just trying to. Oh, I think this dude, definitely that's what it was, is that he was just trolling and just doing this to fuck this dude shit up. But that's fucked up kind of. It's such a crazy thing to have a producer do that. But it's so funny. Right. He has like hell of songs. He doesn't.

I bet a lot of producers, like, really actually need the money more than they made that on. They don't get the money until the back end way later. And, you know, he's probably. Frustrated producers are a dime a dozen. These motherfuckers get treated like shit half the time. They're like not giving fucking credit. They're not even allowed to put their fucking tag. They ain't played with Cardi ain't letting people put their tags on the songs, right?

Does he do that much off ever? On the song that Jetson made, Jetson did the At Me song. Oh, yeah. I didn't hear a tag at all. Was there a thing on that? No, but it's also Justin made it in like three other niggas that produced that song. Right. But apparently one of the other Cardi leaks that was coming soon that was supposed to be like a

a release, but I think it like it got leaked already. Yeah. Was another one that Jetsamade it made. And I saw that the other producer was like we were just done too. We just got done this project or whatever. So I don't know now maybe they got to go back to the drawing board. Yeah. Like if it was a planned, if it was a planned single that was like plan of being released and now they're just trying to cut ties with him all together.

They're probably going to have to cut it. But I feel like most of the leaks don't do that good. They don't get that many views. No, but you gotta think about it like okay. For the party community it does. Especially on South Kong. But you see him on YouTube with like a 100,000 views and shit. Okay, okay.

Okay, so you're looking at it and like the grand scheme of like all the random ass leaks and shit, but you have to think about it to the highest degree where it's like that song, Kid Cuddy, when he first introduced the fucking like baby voice shit. That song was on like the viral top Spotify shit and it wasn't even an official leak. But to me, that's them not doing a good job at keeping that song suppressed because if you really have a leaked fucking song. It just went too crazy. You should be able to block it so that shit can't be on YouTube or SoundCloud.

And yeah, maybe somehow these labels have people that their whole thing is to get shit removed from Spotify. But then you know what's crazy. It was like Cardi was like, you know, riding the wave by he was doing rolling loud and doing these festivals and performing those songs. Not even just that one, performing these other lead. Like the, my stum me hurt. Like shout out to you dig for it. No, no. Either Bob Lamb or shout out to Bob Lamb and you dig.

All of them been doing these Cardi videos because that's where I've been getting a lot of this info. from. But if you think about it, Cardi, that was a leak that clearly was at least if not done by the label. It was at least

condoned by the label because they don't really have a reason to try to get it taken off streaming services, but they can't put it out because they couldn't get the sample cleared. And then for Cardi to go and then perform the song,

it's like whatever. He wasn't going to be able to put the song on anyway. You're talking about Kit Cuddy? I'm talking about Kit Cuddy, yeah. Pissy Pamper, if you will. Yeah, but my stummy hurt also. He did a whole video. Yeah, but that was like

that was like one of things is like his whole marketing team and shit is so crazy because that leak was that a real song i was saying the other day i thought it was just like a meme like he was just saying that over a beat so i know it it was like a snippet of the song and it was like a snippet of the song and then he just said that part like why the instrumental was playing in the background of the video that wasn't from the actual snippet of the song okay but then that shit got revived once ticot got a hold of it and it was just like this whole crazy thing shout out to you dig man the world don't even I want my stony hurts anymore.

The craziest thing is like, how do they stop this? I feel like they need to like have one computer where all the music is at, lock it up in a fucking safe and like let no one touch it. I think a lot of producers or a lot of like artists probably do that. Like they just won't. There's never a time in which the fucking producer,

the engineer would have a chance to take that stuff off. But at the same time, if you're Cardi and you're working with producers, and it's like you're just, you're going, you're just showing up and recording a couple songs for a minute. There's nobody from the label there. That shit ends up on five different computers and shit.

I feel like they need to fix that. Once it gets to a nigga, I message, it's a rap. When niggas can just, I message it to each other. So I'm, I've had niggas play me random unreleased play workhardy songs that are on SoundCloud. They're like, yo, this is a private link. Don't go like it. But listen to this song. There's a lot of producers and stuff that I've been around where that is what they do is like,

oh, you meet this producer. What's he going to do? He's going to sit you down and play you like 50 fucking unreleased songs that will blow your mind and then they're like oh yeah you never it's never gonna come out i heard mego mego thugging so that never came out no it never came out and i mean it's just like i can't really like remember anything about it because i just like heard it and then never heard it again or whatever but i mean to hear thug and megos do a whole tape to have heard it and then know that i'm never gonna like like i couldn't remember any of those songs if they that means they probably weren't tomorrow i mean

they probably weren't that tight then but i heard the whole story about how it happened though is that like they were cool for a while they did the tape together and then like you know one was hot and the other one wasn't hot and they wanted like one the one who wasn't hot wanted to put it out and then all of a sudden the rolls were reversed and like megos were down and thug was up and then like so-and-so want to put it out and they just they never were able to arrive at a time and then now it's like old as far as it's just too old yeah when i heard it was like three years ago so it's definitely ancient as fuck now Jesus Christ it'd be so cool to be able to hear it just as a part of history now but that's like how we were talking about the

um the other song that was in the vlog with the short line lily yadi song and it's like bro that's been what two years now and it's like damn they finally dropped the song together but they didn't even drop that one but i feel like that kind of shit is sort of common for for artists to have songs for a couple years and then finally end up putting them out and stuff the problem with the shoreline thing and you see that they're actually putting a project out finally is that like why that they finally like broken up and sort of lost a lot of the momentum that they had earlier which i would say they still have a decent amount of momentum behind them but it's just it's just so clearly fake now you can't get people super hyped on on singles when every

Everybody knows that the group broke up, right? Everybody knows that they're not fucking with- Oh yeah, this isn't be like the last project together, right? Is it going to be the last? I think it's probably going to be though if they The last with the three of them or four? They broke up four three of them. Don't erase.

Yeah, you're trying to erase some of American hip hoppers in the group. No? You just tried a little bit. Rob vicious is coming to your crib. Or Cato or Cato. Or Cato. Rob Vicious will have a second life post show on. Rob Vishes is just like his work ethic and shit is fire.

He's really good. And I like that tape, the one that we did the show for. Rob Vishes is really good. His Chappaholics tape was fire. Wait, and also, did you guys know that all the big Shrily Mafia songs are on Rob Vishes is Spotify? Really? Yes.

Well, like bands, yeah, because that was from the tape. From the trap. No, but check out his Spotify. Yeah, he has the most, he has the most numbers out of like, he has more numbers on Spotify than O'GZ than Phoenix or the short line mafia page. They put all the lit songs on his page. Why on Earth? do they have separate

this should always be Charlotte Mafia no but they have different they have their own Spotify's too interesting very confusing so are you at this point more or less excited for a whole lot of red than you were like six months ago honestly I'm just like

it's kind of like a turn of a take where it was like nigger this shit never going to come out and I'm just like I'm just not going to believe anything until I actually see it there's just so much drama it's just like so much drama every day there's a Bob a lamb or fucking... Every day. About new news that's not coming out.

I feel like everything that they've done to try to us. They're both dead. I have a... Look at this. This is a cone that's pre-stuffed and then this is when I've rolled myself. What do you think? How's it look? The pre-stuff one looks way better.

Well, yeah. But I mean, that's... You did a pretty bad job. Not going to lie. What? The best one I ever did. No, it looks good, but I'm saying... But let's see how it rolls.

Compared to... If you put it side by side, it looks bad. I mean, to make it look like the way the cone that already comes like that. I mean, that's going to be kind of difficult. Where were we? I don't know. Someone just texted me and said,

hey, what do you think about pop smoke's new album? Yeah, did you guys listen to it? So good. You really think it's so good? Yes. Really? You don't think so.

I know why you don't think so. There's a lot of R&B flips on there. You're probably like, what the fuck is this? He has no idea. No, I mean, it just, it doesn't sound like a pop smoke album, really?

Like, there's only like one or two songs that really sound like drillish at all. It's like, that's what I like to. I think it pretty much seems all, like experiments that he was doing with making like radio or R&B songs but the thing to me is like But it still has like a hood element to it

An element at times But I mean a lot of the songs just like like Take yourself back to the first time that you heard Welcome to the party in Dior and shit And how shocking it was like what the fuck is this voice But he can't keep doing that forever Yeah but he didn't do anything like that on this Yeah he did

There's a few songs like that Yeah a few but it's like a 20 song album That has way more like industry features and shit And there's not one of his old homies the whole like sound that he came out with is like so largely missing from it that to me it's absolutely missing it's not like actual beats type shit it's not drill shit I didn't want to hear another album that sounds exactly like me I don't want to hear an album that sounds exactly like Me Too but I want to hear an album that

at least encompasses some of what made Pop Smoke exciting and new and okay let's go through the track list because I've like I was into it a second time today after I read the reviews because I like read a couple reviews and then I was like man is this really as R&B-ish as it felt to me. And that's basically also what the review said. And I can give him after listen to it again. I just don't feel like it was the send-off that he deserved because he was an artist

that was so uncompromising and had such a unique sound. And then this album just doesn't do much of that. He was crafting those sounds with these people. It wasn't like, it wasn't like it was a whole bunch of like, like with most of these posthumous releases, it feels like it was just like a one take. random thing that they just looped and like that was it. But I feel like these were

like actually, I know what you're saying about it being experimental, but I feel like these were ideas that he had been crafted and working on and like he was taking an element of the super drill shit but like making it more like more pop and more like fucking reach like

more reachable to reach a broader. Exactly. And I understand that and I feel like clearly that's what he was doing was taking his sound and then working with all these different artists and working on making stuff that maybe would be a little more melodic or whatever. And that just makes perfect sense that of course he was doing that.

But then the problem is, is that we don't get to see his version of what his next project would look like. We get to see the version that Stephen Victor in 50 Cent put together, which I'm sure that they did an admirable job, and I'm sure that they did the best job that they possibly could with what they have.

I'm sure this album, it's sold like crazy. It's doing super good. Dude, he's just, to me, as like a pop smoke fan, it didn't really, like, do exactly what I. I always got from Pop Smokers and Arrest. For me, I, honestly, I felt like it was one of the best posthumous albums that I've heard. Honestly, I thought it was crafted. I thought it was crafted perfectly from top to bottom.

There was not one that I want to skip. And, God, I can't read the chat. And I love the way that he was going with it. And he even said in other interviews before that he, you know, it sounded so much like 50 Cent this album because he loved 50 Cent so much. and like hit hit he wanted to keep doing the singing stuff i don't think it was a direct like i don't think it's like okay like like when you hear it side by side it doesn't sound like similar but i can hear the influence but like i don't think it's like a direct like derivative version of 50 it's

not direct derivative but 50 was involved in the production that one song the the i figure what's called but it's like a many men uh flip yeah yeah that song to me that shit like breaks my heart listen to that. But that song to me sounds like 50 helped write the hook. Like if I had to just guess or at least that 50 was in the room and like assisted a little bit of crafting that song because it's not a 50 collab. But to me, it just feels like I think that was one that he was involved with that so much. That was one that I think came out or like there was a snippet of that way before he died though. Oh really? Yeah. So I don't think he necessarily like crafted that. I don't know. But they had they knew each other and hung out before he died. So they had like a four hour of me.

or something at one point like they got together and just ended up kicking it for so long you saw when like 50 cent basically was saying that he thought pop smoke wasn't paying attention to him because he was on his phone the whole time but he was writing down what he was saying really yeah bro 50 cents said that and like an instagram live bro that's actually super interesting because a lot of times i'll be having like an intense ass conversation with somebody i'll want to start fucking taking notes on like the different things because you want to remember yeah because like as somebody who monetizes basically conversation through podcasting and stuff when you're having a really fucking good conversation but you're not recording it.

That's how you start to feel like, oh my God, this is like a really good podcast that nobody's recording. Bro, that's like, and then you can't just like pull out your phone

and start recording because then you just look like a fucking cop. Yeah, that would ruin the vibe quite often. Look, that's like this. Okay, this has nothing to do anything

but I just want to say this. So some weird ass fake verified nigga DMs me. He was like, nowhere I can get perks in LA, bro, need that. And I'm like, I'm like,

who the fuck is this random white nigga who has, who has sketchy on his? page so I'm like you're like you have like RIP sketchy on your page and then you're DM and me some random dude who you don't follow I've never talked to before obviously you know who I am I don't know who you are and you're asking me for perks and I'm like niggas fuck out of here because I'm like I'm lame and shit like that I'm like I'm lame because I don't want to get you're telling us about just some random person who DMs

some random he must be like a rapper or something he's like verified oh it says I'm not a rapper I don't know I'm going to say his name what I say his name don't clout him up no but I mean that shit like when I went to pee fucking like memorial event and I saw a bunch of people like doing drugs and shit that just fucking blew my mind I'm like yeah I guess you know just you can't be surprised but I didn't think about I don't know I wasn't paying attention to other motherfuckers enough to really see that but we definitely went and got drunk after I remember that but like yeah I mean hey you can't

really expect people to like change their whole shit up because somebody fucking passed away I mean it would be nice to think that it should be eye opening for sure yeah but I mean I've just been at this long enough that I just seen so many fucking people die and then the people go right back to doing the same exact thing dude that's like that's like hell of people still dm me like yo when you guys gonna re-release those perk jerseys when you're gonna put those back out and like some do specifically said this whole long last thing like you could have made you could have made that into your own desto dub that's a lot of cops are merged and i'm like bro like i have like and that's no disrespect to dub this is no disrespect

to anybody but i'm just like my nigger i have way too many other i have way too many other ideas emotion and like shit that I want to do is where like this one thing that went good for me I don't need to milk the fuck out of it like especially with the shit that's going on and like you know fucking one of the niggins that we gave the jersey literally died from that drug two weeks after I gave him the jersey so we know oh juice shit yeah you know so it's like it's like people are like oh you should have capitalized on that moment more you should have talked about that moment more you should have re-released them again I'm like bro we released them twice like how many more times do we really need to milk this I feel like double never really get blowback for doing the lean thing or whatever but for some reason I feel like people look at you like you should know better than to be promoting the perk thing but people also act like lean and perks are like like like lean is like not nearly as dangerous when in reality I mean both these things are fucking really really dangerous you know at the end of the day bro it's like dub was able to like like not even if it said that's an awful lot of cops serve like I don't think he's necessarily just like pushing and glorifying lean it's like he's more he's more just turning it into like a business

thing and it's just more of like his brand. But I feel like if I were to like try to make a brand off of just this perk 30 thing, like that was lame as well. And it's just bad timing. There's way too many people we've seen past from taking pills and it just wouldn't work. It's just lame, bro. Who you really want to be the perk 30 guy?

Like you definitely don't want to be the Zan guy. You don't want to be any of that, bro. I don't know exactly who like the Zan guy would be at this moment in time. Yeah, it was definitely a little Zan. It feels like Zanz are really pastay, but I'm sure there's an unbelievable amount of People are still doing Zans. People are definitely still popping Zans. You know most of them.

Well, I know who's it you. Y'all. Yeah, because that's what this podcast is for you. It's just like a Zan networking thing. This is a thing for me to sell Zan. I mean, that's why. Actually, I'm going to tell that dude. Yeah, hit me up.

If you need those perks, I got you. That's what someone's, you know, DJ dabs. Like, he'll tell you if your drugs are fake or whatever on, on Twitter. But he told me that a shitload of people will then hit up the people. Like, they'll pose Zan is they're fake. He'll say those are fake. And then that person who posted the fake Zanes will still get hit up by a ton of people trying to buy drugs off them through Twitter. That's all.

Even though they just advertised the fact that they have fucking fake pills and they consulted someone who's apparently an expert and he said that they were fake. But that's, I mean, hey, if you're a drug addict or a drug addict, people would really be like that. I don't know. You getting too high? Yeah. It'll be all right. Where were you last week, by the way? We had a lot of people concerned the house phone had left the organization.

They thought he fully replaced you. They thought you were in jail. He was stressing out. Dude, I got so many RIPs, free house phones, all this shit. Like, bro. Honestly, that's when I realized this week that like these fucking no jumper fans are insane, bro. Are they? Every five seconds was like, yo, what happened to you?

Like, why aren't you in the show? Did you quit? Did Adam fire you, but I'm like, bro, I missed one episode. One. It's not like I've been gone for a month. It's not like, right. You know? It's so insane that.

Those are also the same people to ask about Hakeem every week, too. Yeah. And then the same people that were asking what happened to the show because the internet cut out or whatever. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. I don't know how many fucking messages I got for that. You don't know how many messages I got from that and I wasn't even there. You're right. People were really confused about that one.

And now that's the worst viewed episode we've had in like forever where if you count, if you count the views from the live stream plus the one that's actually up, episode 49 would have fine views. You know what I just realized? We didn't announce that this is the Virgil episode. I was just thinking that. This is the Virgil episode. It sucks because we were looking at the numbers. Like, all right, we need to make this episode the next best one.

It's going to be the best one. 49 didn't do it. We waited an hour to even mention that this is episode 50. The Virgil Sode. Virgil Sode. Virgil Sode at lunch. Virgil Sode at lunch? No, you never seen Kelly Capour on the office.

Fashion show. Fashion show. Fashion show at lunch. Virgil Sode. Virgil Sode. Virgil So. Virgil so can I get a Virgil soda at lunch in the chat so let's go there we go episode 50 Perk 50 and we should have on merch for episode 50 per 50 jerseys no my uh you guys are

fuck my what did what did you say I got a piss my girl uh my girl 50 like my perk my girl just turned 30 like my girl just turned 50 like my perk should we talk about anything important or should we wait until it comes back honestly I just talk about how much we fucking hate this and I'm I kind of have to go pee now. Fuck, I had to pee too, but anyway, I don't care. Let's talk about your drip right now. I really like this shirt. Oh, really? I've worn this before.

I never seen you wear. I got it like from an Asian brand. I'm not too sure what. I'm going to make a casino shirt like that. Is it? It's not very casino-y. This one has just like a brand- I said I'm going to make a casino shirt.

Like that. Just make sure, try, check out this material. It's very nice and like flowy. Make sure it's not too boxy because then you just look stupid. I want it boxy. I want it very flowy like this. I want it exactly. like that. What kind of material? Is that like nylon

or something? I don't even want to touch. I don't know. I mean, it probably says it on the tag. Maybe when you get home, just tell me what it says on tag. I hate weird tags on the side like that. Why aren't they on the neck? The tag says. Anyway, did y'all miss me, bro? What the fuck? I was gone and y'all niggas were on my nuts. Like, I fucking quit.

Like, I got fire, bro. What's up? Did y'all miss me? Do you get love in the comments? I think so. I think the comments went crazy. Yeah, actually. No, no, I'm not talking about last week that you were in here, but, like, in general. That's the thing. They talk shit about me when I'm here. But then they miss you when you're gone.

Yep, exactly. That's like what 6'9 and fucking academics was talking about on live stream. I think earlier yesterday or something like they don't give you your fucking flowers until your dad, man. They don't fucking give you your Grammy and, you know, if you're Nipsey Hustle. I don't know why 6'9 is talking about that. I don't think people are going to give him flowers. No, that's a fact.

I feel like when he does, we're going to have the most number of people, right, like, LOL you die that you've ever seen. No, but then also like his real fans are like the people that like, troll the fuck out of him but really actually they troll him because they fucking love him those are the people that are going to be sad as fuck as fuck. The craziest thing? It'll be niggas crying but also tweeting fuck six nine who cares if he's dead.

You think people would be crying? I wonder how many people would be like in a real state of morning. We're a great guy. I was trying to figure out like who the fuck is buying this merch and like I actually saw someone I know personally wearing the trolls things and I was like oh wow.

Exactly that's hell weird. It's an associate of Blasey so it's not technically my friend If I see somebody in that comment section, my opinion of that. Even if you see them liking the picture, huh? I don't look through the likes, but every now and then I'll see someone of these girls. If you follow somebody, it'll say this person and that person liked the picture. But you know that he put out like a reggae song or reggaone song or a Latin song, whatever the fuck it's called. It has like 40 million views.

It was some bad bitches in the video though. It's just that one fucking girl that he's been like using and silly. I find it so interesting that he's never really. posted jade that much since he since he's been out he ain't really posted it at all maybe on his story a little bit but the video girl for this video is some new girl who has like the most ridiculous looking fake ass and tits you've ever seen your whole life it's amazing i'm not gonna live amazing i don't know honestly i've been corrupted by the i g like i've been correct like i mean don't get me wrong i always take like you know some more natural looking shit and like that's what i'm dealing with

in real life you from me but just like on some just straight pure like entertainment just like whoa like that actually looks crazy i'm not gonna lie you jerking off to the fake booties i mean it's not that many like porn stars really you have to like look for them i feel like i feel like the girls that you see like on instagram of like big booty girls like they don't really do porn like like like like they might do a little only fans or something they need to like that's the only fans like okay look like if like bitches that were like shaped like lila star like on some like fake ass shit like that. This is when I will go pee.

No, but Layla Starr is, she has an old school butt implant. And I think she just got it taken out. Really? And she, um. Her shit was crazy. But she's a porn star originally. Yeah,

she had like a whole career as like a more natural looking girl. And then she got a bunch of fake stuff. Like she left the industry for a couple years and came back with a bunch of surgery and shit and boom. I didn't know that. Had a whole different career. Yeah. Yeah.

So that probably would shot her up to the top was all that shit. I've, uh, worked with her. I've, you know, you know, you know, you know, It's funny this this dude that like kind of interned here for a little bit.

He knew her back when we worked at the old store downtown. Okay. And he was trying to set it up. And I remember I was like talking to her on Twitter or something. This is like back then. And then I don't know what happened. And then boom, you ended up linking up with her years. I will say.

And I also interviewed Layla Star. Go smash like on that one, ladies and gentlemen. But I will say about Layla Star as well, though. She's a point so that when we hooked up, you know, I'm trying to get creative. I'm like, oh, like I'll go from fucking Lena to like. you know, I'll jizz on your face or whatever. And she was like, oh, I don't, I don't do the cum shots. I'm like, oh, or she doesn't take jizz in the mouth.

Why not? I don't know. It's just like her thing, I guess. So, we're. Or at least she was telling me that. She's probably done it with a whole bunch of other guys on camera. And I will say about her as well that she is a girl who there was a rapper who was trying to get at her. He was trying to get at her.

He was a very, very well-known rapper that everybody. And he hit me up like, yo, like hit my, like, tap me in with her, I hit her up. I realized that she had already talked to him. She just denied him. And here he was hitting me up. Trying to get it.

Somehow like my co-sign is going to make her reconsider. Maybe. And she wasn't into it. I think she, I think, like her statement was that she wanted one of my little, like, I know,

was it? No, because I remember her describing what she wanted from a boyfriend because I told her, I'm like, yeah, I got friends. You want to date one of my friends? And she's like,

they can't do drugs. they can't cheat on me and they have to do the only fans content with me i'm like that's deleted literally everybody is off that yeah i don't really know everyone is doing drugs or all them will cheat on you or they might not be down you're describing the perfect man i would be down to do the only fan shit with a bitch i just got to me tattoos to where people are going to know that as me and i'm just like it man live life i know i'm just not like he wants to make you a porn sir so bad yeah dog like i got i got like a mom and like little little nephew that's like in high school but do you think that in this day and age that they really give a shit because i could tell you as somebody whose dick is all over the internet

has millions of views that nobody gives a foot that's because like it's probably not affecting like your mom and like their family side of it my mom just don't talk about it yeah but like you ever talked about it with her that it would definitely affect my family yeah does she even acknowledge that you that your dick is on the internet we just never talked about but i'm sure that she's acknowledged it privately or at least like the leena side of things like like like her and your dad talk about it but like you guys have never talked about it have you and your sister ever talked about it uh you think your dad has seen linen linen naked on the internet i don't know i mean i guess that there's some chance that he might have wanted to go see that but i

don't really see him as the type to be honest yeah my family would literally disown me and like also like your little nephews and sure aren't old enough yet like my nephew's in middle school so he's about to go to high school and it's like that's when you get bullied about shit like that I can't wait. Uncle Adam, why is your dick on the internet? I don't know, man. That's just how I'm living, guys. Uncle Adam's crazy.

His dick's on the internet. You are crazy. All that stuff. I can't imagine. I can't imagine. I can't imagine Henry being like 15. Like, dude, what the fuck? I don't think, no, he won't be 15 saying what the fuck

because he'll probably figure it out when he's like 10. Oh, God. And it'll just seem kind of normal. And then he'll start to realize that other people don't think it's normal. But my thing is that I think about Josh here, okay? I know we're all talking about this like Josh. Is it in the room? I kind of forgot.

He's all red and shit. The father's right here. I kind of forgot that he was sitting right there. No, the craziest thing is like your nephews are just so cute and little and young. So like I always just think that they're going to be that small forever. So you forget like kids, kids grow up. Bro, that's how I felt about my nephew. I would watch this nigga grow up from when he was this tall.

And I'm like, nigga, you're almost as tall as me now. It's crazy. I bet Brian Pumper's. nephews think he's tight. Brian Palmer's nephews probably think he's lame as fuck with all that fake ass jury. No, they don't know yet. His permed waves and his fucking like at the train station picking up, probably picking up bitches that are in their grade at the train station.

Hey, that's alleged. I don't know how old that niggins nephews probably is. They might be like 18. But don't you think that like Brian Palmer probably got like some nephews and nieces that like think it's all good and they just won't find out until much later that he's kind of a different type of dude? I hope not. I hope they never find out.

King dingling. Kendrick? King Dingling. Should I talk about it again? I'm thinking about doing the Brian Pumper video like next week. All right. Okay, we're going back on quarantine. You kind of have to do it now.

We need some more like. Well, I just finished the Salina Powell only fans review. That's not what we want. I finally kicked it into gear and did it because I had a sponsor that was breathing down my neck. Like is the video ready? No, no, no, no. I thought about getting her. I was going to have her sponsor the video with like her.

You're giving her, you're literally handing her money. Yeah. I saw how much money she is making from. How many millions? It's not millions, but it means she's making a fuckload. Really? Why she looks so dusty still? Is she doing actual, like?

Yes. Why she looks so dusty still, though? Is she dusty? She'd probably resent that. She looked a little dusty. She's going to hit me up. Hey, tell a little, like, cell phone, like, fuck him. Fuck him.

I'm waiting for it right now. He just wants to fuck me. But we want to know why she's salty right now is because she was defending. academics super hard in the Freddie Gibbs roasted the fuck out of her. Killed her off probably. But then now Selena, I think academics retweeted his

girlfriend, Angelica. And then, I think, or I don't know if they're actually dating or whatever. But like... I saw really, really sad story. But Selena is mad as fuck that academics is still fucking with her. And so now she's like tweeting about like how she was betrayed by

academics and how she's like, I don't know. She's on some whole other shit. So a funny thing about academics girlfriend is I think someone at like she did like a my Q&A thingy on Instagram story and they asked like oh what's your deal with academics and I think she posted like oh we still live together but blah blah blah blah we're not the best of terms and the next picture is like oh what about you and little Tracy and it's like a picture of her and little Tracy like oh that photo her and Tracy on her story was recent huh that's so interesting that they still

lives together because she was hitting me up saying she wanted to do a no jumper interview you're gonna do it's super far no I'm like I'm not really trying to like treat academics like 6-9 and like interview everybody ever knew. Would you interview Jade, Jade, what's her name? Jade. Jade? I'll say say jaden like Jaden Smith. I forgot her name for a second. I mean if six nine kicks her to the curb and decides that he'd rather be single.

A tell-all interview. Oh, that would be the most gas thing. You think she got an NDA? With the tattoo showing though, like she has to wear like a shirt with just like the sleeve drop down. But nobody will ever have called. Nobody will ever have called the laser, the to laser spot faster than her when they break up because she is going to have to get to where is going to take dozens of sessions to get rid of that thing or what if she just tries to cover it up with the biggest cover up of all time yeah you couldn't even do it huh it's going to be so crazy she's going to have to fill so much space to cover it it would have to be like a whole like and she has multiple tattoos

you think you think they have a good relationship because on one hand he has every right to just suck her off or holding her him down for those years and everything or year or however long a was but then the same time you know he could basically fuck a million other girls if you wanted to and he doesn't really seem like the kind of guy that's like into self-control fucking those other million girls is going to come with a risk and like a headache that I don't think he wants to deal with right now of like having some random bitch in his crib when he's like supposed to be the kind of hiding and nobody really knowing where he's at yeah and like you you just like are open a pandora's box of just getting set up or getting some crazy shit happening to you by having a random bitch in your I don't think he's a very loyal person. I don't think that's going to be. I don't think he's going to like pay her back for holding him down. He literally wiped up the last girl that he was fucking with before he got the Fed case. You know, it's like seems kind of transparent.

There's got to be a shelf life on that relationship, right? I thought as soon as you come out, you got to dump that one. Oh, that would have been the most ridiculous shit ever. That would have been so crazy. Yeah, I'm just kidding, bro. Yeah, he's just bored in the curb right now. He needs that. But once he's going to be out of house arrest soon, very soon.

Really? Yes. He's going to be out here in the field. But he's not going to be in the field because there's no field to be in. He's going to be doing stuff, though. He's definitely like, he is such an attention whore that will do anything to get people talking about him. But then he's so limited right now because all he can do is make Instagram videos. He today posted a video of him playing with some Barbie dolls in the fucking bathtub and shit.

Like once he can leave the crib? He seems to really. Can you leave the country? No. He seems to really think that would make sense. He seems to really think that security. He's just going to just save his whole. Like he kept talking about, like, him and academics were like on live, whatever.

He kept talking about the importance of security and the importance of like, you know, people saying that, oh, like, if you like some street rapper and you see him with security, you automatically think, oh, he's like pussy or whatever. But then if he gets killed, it's like the first thing you're saying is, why didn't they have security? They're famous. They should have security. So he seems to think that, I don't know, that like security, like the way that he kept

going on about it, he keeps seeming. he thinks that that makes you like invincible or something almost and I'm like you could still get got with security bro you can have niggas on your security team that are getting paid to trade you in or some shit remember how much security he was walking around on Melrose with yeah but that's crazy that was like in the middle of him being hated but it was like and LA being like the gang capital of the world no for sure and I saw some YouTube videos about like he has like a hundred thousand dollar security team right that that was so expensive for him to be moving around like that and that's the thing about it and when this story will all become a little bit more tragic is that like

to me it seems obvious that his musical prospects are on the slide down like his music is just going to gradually become less and less popular versus him becoming more and more popular he could definitely be making a ton of money touring and stuff I don't doubt that he has like what feels like an insane amount of money right now it's just going to start dwindling down at some point like he will have less money in a year or two or three years than he has right now. That's my guess, especially given the state of touring. And then all of a sudden, those security bills are going to start mounting up. Those fucking security bills.

I've had friends who had a bunch of fucking security all the time. And then over time, it just becomes totally impossible for them to pay for it. So what are they left with? They just basically have to roll around with a gun all the time and try to take care of their own shit, you know? Yeah, I mean, he snitched on his security. Yeah. But also these friends that I'm talking about are not like actual targets where people are

really want to fucking kill him like it is with him, you know? I just feel like, I mean, do you think the best bet for him is just go to like Puerto Rico or something? He's not though. And he can't probably. No, Puerto Rico is an American. Yeah, whatever. But if you wanted to kill somebody in Puerto Rico, it would probably be way easier. But you have to, like, when you're on probation and shit like that, papers and shit, you have to stay in your state.

You can't go. It can still be in the U.S., but you can't go any other place. I feel like it's inevitable. You'll be a flight risk. When he gets out, he will, like, once he's able to, like, move around and stuff, that is, when we will see him like push the limit to the point where he either gets arrested or gets in some kind of trouble again

or gets his ass shot. You know who needs to be arrested? Aesabari for fucking stealing the fucking merch concept from April Skateboards and making this fucking V-Lone pop smoke merch man. But here's the thing, Azaabari's not a graphic designer, right? Of course not.

So it was probably somebody he hired who did this, right? That's a fact. I'm just fucking around. I just needed a good segue. But I would, will say, did you see the side-by-side graphics? I wonder if he is a graphic designer. I wonder if he's got Photoshop skills. That's one thing I would like to know about these different streamware characters.

The designs, most of the designs are so mid and so mediocre that I feel like he could pull those designs on Photoshop on his phone in five seconds. But it's not like he's the sole owner of V-Lone either. It's like, it's probably all kinds of No, no. Especially now. It's probably

the whole team motherfuckers that pay for shit. But it's just like... Also, I wonder who who's like the creator of that metallic rose that the April skateboard made. April skateboards hired an artist who made, who did the design. He was the one who posted, I did this design for April skateboards. Oh, okay. And V-Lone ripped it off.

Yeah, that's fucked up. I did my drip search. Your drip search. Has Bari responded to this in any way or? No, of course. I don't think he will. I want to know what the thoughts are on that because realistically that looks like a lawsuit. That could definitely happen because it's so similar.

It was literally like three. three very subtle changes. And I saw like, I think you dig or somebody trying to like justify it and be like, oh, it was different. I'm like, dude, it was entirely the same, the same fucking design. No, something interesting also about Pop Smoke is the album cover that they ended up using is from this guy

named Rider Rips, who also accused Virgil of stealing his idea when the first design first came out. Really? Yeah, this Rider Rips guy. And he knows him like close and personal because he designed the Ben Trill website back in the day. I remember this dude from back in the glory days of the V-Files scene. Wow.

And then you were tapping into that, huh? No, the crazy thing is when it first came out, Ryder put up a link on his Instagram bio, and it was like this like, not Photoshop. What is it called where you do the projections in school? Like a bullet point? Like a PowerPoint presentation of like all the times that Virgil ripped him off. It was crazy.

Really? Yeah. Try to talk about last week, but I couldn't really get a word in. Last week was intense. No, but like, why was it so intense? Wait, real quick. No, I want to keep talking about this subject. We could talk about what went on last week because that was insane.

But I do want to say that sometimes when you have graphic designers, they do the laziest shit. And it will blow your fucking mind. Not Blasey, of course. But like I remember one time there was like an artist who hit us up and they were complaining because we had an OSS shirt design and it was like a drippy like circle graphic. And this artist. was just like, look at this shirt design that I made that, like, you guys copied the exact same silhouette of the drippy fucking thing or whatever with, like. Oh, the cups filling over, right?

No, it's a different one. But it was like, it was so fucking obvious. And we ended up, like, giving the guys some money and stuff. But it was, it was like 1,000 percent we could not have known. It was just a graphic design. It was just lazy. And he just copy somebody else's design for part of it, you know. I thought it was just like, because like, the thing with me when this shit that is so simple,

because I remember it was this brand. Shout out to them actually. This brand's call. Hello DC or some shit like that But basically my name is house phone So I just I just took the word hello And put it in collegiate font and made like a Carhart jacket out of it

And this brand was trying to be like you stole our whole thing And it was like literally just the word hello In the collegiate font in different colors And I was like you stole this from us and I was like But I've literally net they had like Probably under a thousand followers at the time or something I was like bro I've literally never seen this before And they were trying to blame the fact that

I guess whoever their manufacturer is they uh that that that blasi knows their manufacturer so blasi stole the design from from the manufacturer in office and then gave it to me and i was just like no i told blasi this is what i wanted and that was it like it was just you know so like but i have a question about the barry situation though was that original april skateboard's graphic was that a rest of piece pop smoke graphic or no it was just it was it was like they commissioned an artist to make them like a graphic for the skateboard it makes sense not to justify why they stole it, but why they would steal that exact

one is because the whole, like, theme was like the metallic rose and how... Like, they probably... But this was the thing, though. Someone was saying that, uh, on like YouTube that, what if that was just a stock image that you type in metallic rose. I was about to ask, but then it was just... But then it has the halo around it and that's the part

that to me that is like, how the fuck could that be a coincidence? When did that come out? It was not, not a while before, yeah, right? Because I was wondering if it was a stock image because I know a lot... I know a lot of designers what they do and I've seen Blasie talk about it before. I've seen you do it too. The first thing you do is you

just type on Google image search like oh I want this fucking metallic rose. Once graphic designers start to work from an image base of like approved images because at a certain level you could get sued for just using somebody else's photo even when you've taken it and twisted it and done all kinds of

shit to it so you need to start with original images that you own the rights to and then once you do that then people are really working from the same set of images so you can end up with people doing ridiculously similar things. And a lot of stuff is just like ideas that are so similar that they're sort of out there in the zeit guys. This fucking took like made me really pay attention because it just seems so insane. Like it's the exact same fucking graphic. But there's also like a name inscribed

in the halo too, which makes the graphics stand out even more. And I'm pretty sure that the VLone version has it as well, but not exactly sure. I want to know when the April skateboard's design came out. It came out like 2019 or something like that. It was it was wildposs. was still alive and it had nothing to do with his posthumous death album release. Look at us getting into the fashion drip education. Streetwear show. Streetwear news coming soon. Speaking about posthumous drip. Blasey designed the phase juice world collab. Yeah man looks pretty dope. That does look super dope. It was tight. The fans were given a lot of backlash because they were mad about music. They want the album, yeah. But it was like you don't know that that's like all encompassing together.

a grand scheme of a rollout that they're doing you know i'm unbelievably excited for the album yeah for sure it's coming out thursday i'm actually going to do a stream where i listen to it on stream which i'm very excited about on thursday can we can we be honest though it would have been way better for them to announce the album first and then do the first shit oh they fucked that up and then do all they could have did a v-long collab phase collabelope live live again because if you really think about it he was the first person that went all out and did a collab with every hot brand when his album came out. And they were all fire. Yeah, I didn't know that he was the first one to do it because I know that afterwards,

I realized that all artists do like multiple collabs when they drop. It became the standard after Juice World did it, bro. But was it bundled with the album? Oh, that's genius. It was, bro, listen, listen. He did a collab with Ransom, half evil. V-Lone. V-Lone.

Super radical. Super radical. And Lyricle Lemonade maybe. Lyricle lemonade. Right. And they all encompass the album. That's smart because then you get to really have like a direct connection to all these little viral fan bases. Oh my God.

That's literally the most genius. And nobody has ever did it. Travis Scott's the only person that did it. But he did on his own. He did it on his own. But that's because he just has that fandom, that fan base of where he kids his own show. Before it was like you do a collab with one brand. He did.

It's six brands. Because there really are no rules. You're not an exclusive contract. Exactly. Crazy thing about this juice album is just so they have so much music to choose from. I'm excited. I'm like unbelievably excited to actually listen to it. Just because.

What direction you think they're going to go, though? I don't know. That's actually a really good point. Because he probably has so many different songs of different vibes and different genres and like. And apparently they're only going to have two features. So it's going to be mostly, mostly juice. They've been. keeping the track list close

to the chest. That's good though. That's good because like a lot. He could get anyone he wants. That's crazy. I wonder. Because that's the thing is they could probably put out a juice album that is like all like rap shit. Like all these just 10, 15 random like songs of juice rapping his ass off.

I need that. This project, I'll be honest. I kind of feel like this project should have all of the like emotional, sentimental, banger, huge songs. It's going to be. Let this be the project that is. the huge, ridiculous smash hit-filled project. So why don't you have that same energy with the Pop Smoke album?

Let him, let his album have the pop. Because him and Juice World are incredibly different artists. That's just... That makes sense. The album I just described is the perfect distillation of Juice World, whereas... That's a fact. Pop Smoke was in like an experimental stepping outside of like extreme drill category. Like it was him first stepping outside.

What can you do when now he's not here? And that's the album that he was working on. would have liked to hear the pop smoke album touch on that still they took fabio four and cowboy off it no that's fine but then they left his ad libs they left his adlibs they left his adlibs super weird they left the cowboy adlibs that's crazy no but listen but you know that that pop smoke album exists and let's let that be the next one or the one after that or something like that it's like this first one they're trying to give you he think they have more and the same line where i was saying 50 cents said that he wrote down what he was saying right he also said that he was going to make it his job to try to make it the biggest that he can get

and like get the biggest features but of people that he actually fucked with and people that like like it like like you can see pop smoke being in the room recording these songs with these niggins but that's the whole thing is that once dudes like 50 get into the industry they stop remembering that the nature of what makes a lot of these rappers great is how fucking raw they are because to be honest I love 50 cent for his mixtape stuff before his album run

and in his albums he lost a lot of what made this fucking mixtape I was just about to say that if you think about the trajectory of how 50's music evolved that's literally what was that is what it was happening with Pop Smoke

it was very grimy hood shit that he 50 Cent emerged into this fucking singy love song kind of and that's what Pop Smoke was trying to do. I just feel like the Pop Smoke album if he had lived would have been like this but him working on it for another six months and smoothing out the edges on what he was doing and making it better and better. You didn't say that

first so you kind of just like shit on it at first. I think that people should let artists evolve and try different sounds and I thought that he did amazing job. I will, I expect almost in a way that there's like there's got to be another pop smoke album at a certain point. Pop smoke perp. Yeah, that was really bad. Pop smoke album at a certain point and I wouldn't.

What if? There's got to be a moment where like maybe the next project could have a lot of the stuff that was like, you know, basically like stuff he was working on from the. the time period that he was still basically happy to be just a drill artist you know speaking of this pop smoke album push a tea apparently wants to be removed off of the album all the way off of the deluxe because uh young thug came out and said that push a tea was dissing drake in one of the songs he wasn't feeling that on one of the leaked songs that i don't think was actually going to even be on the album but thug basically didn't want to be well i don't think it was going to be on the album anyway it was

just a pure leak or was it no it was gonna be on the pop smoke album but then it wasn't yeah and then it wasn't yeah and then the best part he referred to it all this rapper shit gay yeah and I saw a whole bunch of people hurt as hell on the timeline like you thought that thug was a gendered queer

icon of wokeness and he called this song gay it's like he can still be very open minded and progressive and down with the LGBTQ cause and still be a little bit stuck in that I mean I grew up we were calling everything gay everything your shoes are gay your hat's gay your fucking mom's gay

I mean sorry I feel bad for thug that he's still stuck in his old-fashioned vernacular a little bit because I had to unlearn that at a certain point but I'm I feel like his friends in Atlanta they're just joking around calling things gay I don't think I don't think people like me or yours like hello mr. thug is from the trenches I don't think you should say that like when you see who thug is around and shit and like when you're still calling things gay it's just he is not like a like he's just straight up out the hood like that is just who thug is i mean what's the fact you can't expect him to change his whole shit up once it gets famous yeah not but like i mean he kind of does have this whole like like okay y'all saying that but then he also will like wear

a dress and like do very feminine things and like kind of align himself with being with that community so if you're going to align yourself with that then you kind of got to take what comes with it i don't I don't think he really aligned himself with the community so much. I think people wanted that to be the case. But I think for him, it was like he wore a long shirt and he calls his boys his lover and says like some sort of like gay sounding ass shit to his homies and stuff. And you don't think they doing that on purpose? Yeah, I think he's just fucking around.

But I don't think young thug is woke. I don't think he like deliberately was like, oh, I'm going to put on this dress to break gender boundaries. He was just putting on a weird shirt. Not even that. I think he does it for like the. fashion aspect of it, not like the LGBT. He's a fashion guy.

Above all else. I think he's doing it because he knows what the motherfuckers is going to say. And he knows that like, bro, I love Young Thug. I think he doesn't because he just doesn't care. No, and that's the thing. He doesn't take a publicity. I completely 100% disagree with that because there's something that I realized in interviewing Thug, which is that he is so not thinking about what the reaction is going to be

to the things that he does because of the fact that he, he legitimately doesn't know, doesn't think about it, doesn't care. Because, like, there's certain things he said during that interview that I did with him, like, when he was talking about Lil Nas X, where he was like, you know, I don't think he should have came out because, you know, people are going to get on his ass so much about it and shit. And I kind of, like, knew what he meant, which was that basically, like, he might be, like, little Nas X might be biting off more than you can chew in terms of, like, you know,

Thug was kind of trying to make, like, a nuanced point about how people could just pay attention to the music better if he didn't come out. But, like, the way he said it, I was like, bro, like, this is, like, the way you said you're just serving it up to the blob so that they can turn it into whatever but I don't think he's thinking about that at all he's not thinking about it at all he just doesn't have like he him as an artist he's so

in the moment that I don't think he like has the ability to really like hold his tongue and that's why he doesn't do media and shit is because he just doesn't think about the world that way. The last run that he did for so much fun that was like the most introspective that I've ever seen him in any interviews and all that shit and then um

was it you that asked him about like the hate what was it love me daddy or fuck that one caption fuck me daddy caption and if you actually listen to what his answer was in terms of why he said that he's like sometimes I'll be looking at a picture and I'll just think about how the picture makes me feel

and I'll just write how it makes me feel and it was so like not the way that you would think that anybody else would feel comfortable picking an Instagram picture but wait so he picking an extra captioned too he was saying that like the like the bitch would look at him in the picture and say that basically I think he was kind of saying that that's what he was

kind of saying he felt like he was looking at that picture and it was He looked like a bad bitch, so he just titled it that. And like, it was just sort of like... Honestly, that is a very pure form way. He is, yeah. He's very pure. He doesn't have been corrupted by the world so much. I think he said that before a couple of times, too.

Damn. He's very eccentric, you know? Fuck is the best. I love him. He's the go. No, but yeah. I don't know. I feel like...

Oh, sorry, gone. I just feel like if he isn't thinking about shit that he's in, how people is going to take it, then maybe he should if he doesn't want to keep getting misconstrued and keep getting put in box because you can't put that nigga in the box at the end of the day you can't put him in a box you can't fucking try to you can't try to label him because he's just going to be he's just a wild card you feel me but i feel like he should be a little more conscious about how he portrays what he's trying to say is in that next i think step of his career you find me i think i like that about this this just no this but like like this position that he's in now is like the best

position he's been in his career is because a lot of motherfuckers like we was talking about A lot of motherfuckers don't get their flowers until they're dead and gone. And it's like, I feel like him and Chief Keefe are both highly influential, but it's highly talked about. And people give them the respect that they deserve. But Young Thug is actually seeing the more commercial success of it now, finally. And I feel like Chief Keefe got to see that commercial success early. And then he kind of just went into the street mixtape lane after. Underground legend.

Chief Keefe is the definition of somebody who, like, does not know how to assimilate. normal and like just make normal songs and be a regular person who shows up to his shows on time and shit like that. But that's what makes him. Thug, I think, is somebody who started out incredibly eccentric and like had a really hard time fitting

into like the boxes that he was supposed to. But when you listen to a young thug verse now, it makes a lot more sense than like his early work that was so all over the place. I'm so geeked up my motherfucker condom. But even just the flows like he just he flows like on

beat and more consistently you kind of like know what you're going to get from thug a little bit more now he's like adapted to like it's still very random though sometimes sometimes but like okay when i saw post malone featuring young thug okay there was a part of me that was just like oh my god like how could this like what is this going to sound like young like post malone makes like the cleanest sounding like pop ballad ass songs and like young thugs sometimes we'll just do the weirdest shit ever on beats and then like when i heard it i was like oh yeah right this is like the new mature thug who just like fits in on the song a little bit more especially a pop song like this i don't know how much direction they maybe gave or that's like what's that song that he did with the girl that went

really fuck it was like the most dude like i still never even heard this song before i forget and it's like it was like it's his biggest song 1 000 but i think even of that year you said you never heard it i still never heard it no what you know that it's a huge song but you just never listened to it up i've watched videos about it and all that. How big could it be that it was? No, it was that big. It was like the biggest song of the year. You watch videos about it and you, but why am I forgetting what it's this?

I'm talking about beautiful Thugger Girls. No. He did a song with some like, like, girl like Maluma or something like that. I don't fucking know what her name is. I have no idea. Some girl and it was like the biggest, it was like the most stream song or that year or something. Or like the most stream. Havana by Camia Cabella.

Oh yeah. I listened to that song. Never heard it. Never heard it. It goes like this. Havana, nah, nah, nah, nah. But like way better than that. Never heard it.

Usually if an artist, if an artist makes like a club, a Latinx song, I probably just won't hear it. It's just like Poppy. Right. Like she does she makes songs with like Justin Bieber type people. Right. Yeah, exactly. I probably, I'll listen to it now because I want to know. I just hear it like those are the kind of songs where if you go abroad, they're going to play that song and like LMFAO shots and like I just heard it so many times.

I don't like that kind of music at all. So like when I saw that like the six nine song, I literally watched the first 30 seconds of the video. to see what the girl looked like. Yeah, I wanted to see that girl too. To hear, like, roughly what the song sounded like, and then I turned it off. As soon as he started singing. No interest.

I don't get that kind of music at all. As soon as he starts singing, I immediately just paused it and went to watch something else. To me, his vocals sounded horrible. Like, it sounded so grating and nasty, and I just, I have no idea. Did you do it with Aladdin artist?

Or was it just him? It was just him. It was literally just him. Yeah, I didn't listen to it. I just watched the preview where she's, like, twerking on his lap. God damn. That was something.

The bitch, whatever bitch that was in the first 30 seconds, that was the baddest bitch. That just made you want to go find her. Do you think that they're just- Like, find her at and follow her weird. They're just going to keep shooting videos. They're just going to keep shooting videos in that same like square thing that he has. And just change the color. But that's what I'm saying.

He's about to be off house arrest. So all of a sudden his videos and stuff will probably be a lot more interesting if he can be outside. He'll probably spend like. He's about to go do some. We can't even be outside. $80,000 to block off a block and, in Brooklyn with like 80,000 cops there to protect him

just so that he can do some shit that looks tough. They're not like snipers on the roof. I got Sarah Molina coming in tomorrow. Oh, really? Sarah Molina. I really like her interviews a lot. You remind me of a West Side story.

Please never do that again. Maria Maria. Nica says Sarah Molina. You should sing that to her, please. You should really sing that to her, honestly. You should go to the studio tonight and record a remix of that. Hey, so I want you to hear this.

I made you something. East Side story. I'm going to make sure I'm not here so in case they blow his bitch up. That's what he's saying though, right? You remind me of a West Side story. Yeah. Yo, can I call out AD real quick?

Why? All right, so we're talking to AD. And he says, oh, like, Tuesday is my hood day. Like, that's a thing in L.A. I guess is that every hood has a hood day. That's in gang culture in general, not just that. Right. And so he's like, it's my hood day.

Like, you should pull up. I'm like, all, I'll pull up. Tell me when and where. Let's fucking do it. it and then he was even he was hyping the hood day up saying how like uh the hood day like if you don't come to the hood day for a couple of hood days in a row that people start looking at you like oh you don't fuck with the hood and he was saying how you know whatever and then like he just like didn't even hit me up and then he told me that they fucked up on getting the Airbnb and I'm like

why you need an Airbnb like don't you guys just stand outside like like on the block he's like nah it's too hot for that like it's not really that kind of shit it's way too hot for that yeah you got it's like a celebration like a party still right apparently I didn't understand understand the hood. But you don't do it in the hood? I don't know. Maybe they're just partying people's houses. I mean, niggas is getting rich and older now. They're probably not just standing on the block and on, you know, like they want to do it somewhere nice, boozy crips. I guess. I don't know. I just, I thought that, I thought that the hood day would be like

so unstoppable that it was just going to happen somewhere, one way or another. I like that they pick Tuesday. Such a random day. Well, no, it's probably aligned with the numbers of their gang. It's not just because it's a Tuesday, Kim. Oh, it's not just every Tuesday. No, it's like once a year. Once a year. It's like your birthday. Do you have a hood day? I don't gang bang.

No, I don't have a hood day. But is there like a hood day for like roughly the gang that is in your area? It ain't really like that. Yeah, but no. But I know a lot of people are in gangs and have never really like hyped up their hood day. That's why I was kind of let down because I was really going to actually go to 80's hood day.

Well, and blog it? Yeah, I might whip the iPhone out. I might sit at least. I might add a mask on and that would have been, I don't know if I would have stood out like a fucking sore thumb because I would be masked up. Yeah. No, I don't think you're a sore thumb. I'm white also, so that probably would make me stand out like a sort of thing. You're just tall white nigga with Clu Klux tattoos in the middle of the hood day.

With your phone out with a mask on. Yeah, actually, you would have a recording everybody. One thing I could say is I don't have any racist tattoos. So that's cool. I guess I somehow made it through life. It's probably just closer to your chest. You might have just got them covered up, honestly. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff you got covered up, I feel like.

If somebody told me it was. This whole arm was like, was like Clu Klux paraphernalia. No, but to be real, this one. was a rough version of this. From way back, from when I was like 18, 19. What is this? A scale? It looks very scaly.

It looks very scaly. This one? Very scaly. That's a spider. This is a bunch of spider webs behind. Or it's a cobwebs. That means you're webbed into the neo-Nazi nation. It's just how many people are killed.

And it's like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds. No. The day, moshing. It was a killer mosh. I heard that if you got web, spider webs, that means because you're like, you're locked in with the, with the, the with the clan?

Yeah, with the clan. Don't you have webb there? I don't think anyone thinks that. I think it's like some gang thing in prison sometimes. Somebody else told me that it was like some Hispanic gang shit too. I heard that it was a couple different gang things. I can say honestly that I've never really

known any white supremacists in my life. I had one guy talked to me at a Tommy's burger one time and then I basically ended up figuring out that he was like a white power guy. He was probably trying to like recruit you. He was trying to get me to work on his like oil tanker. What the fuck? That's like Like code word for like let's go kill like he's no but and he said he's like because like I wasn't really feeling it and like he thought that the reason why I wasn't feeling it was just because I thought he was weird when actually I already had my own business and stuff and I don't want to like work on your fucking oil tank or whatever but he said he's like he's like yeah we got some blacks and Mexicans but with us but they don't like they ain't like rah right like these fucking N words whatever like saying all the super racist shit I'm so not feeling it and he's just I'm just like yeah I'm like right man I like that's like straight up trying to

recruit me to be part of his crew this is when I first moved to Long Beach too oh god it was nuts seems pretty drunk too oh he said it was that Tommy's too so I just think it was just coming to you at the middle of the night just like yeah we were all on bikes and shit too and then the really crazy thing this is the fucking gnarly part that wasn't even mentioned though is that

he right as we are about to leave on our bikes this guy like he had already given up on trying to talk to me or whatever and he runs back to me and goes yo here's my card that's my number on it just keeping in mind and I just like he And he said, he goes, Google me.

So I googled his name and basically figured out, because this guy had to be like at least 35. He had basically gotten into a fight with a bunch of Spanish kids after he, like a bunch of Mexican kids in like Long Beach area after a school dance. He drove to his fucking dad's house, got a sawed off shotgun, and then basically got into a fucking high speed chase on the highway where he blew one of these fucking kids heads off with a sawed off shotgun. And he handed me his.

fucking name and phone number and said like Google me and this is what I it was like a New York Times article from like the early 90s or some shit about him doing this and he tried to escape to Hawaii and then he like ended up how the fuck could you escape in the US though my thing is how the fuck how is he allowed to walk the street I know that's the crazy thing about it I did the math and I was like okay he like went to jail for like 15 years and he got out or it was only 15 years it sounds like not enough but like if it was a black or Spanish kid that'd They said that they've been in jail for life.

No, but you do a murder. You get like 20 years. Maybe you do like 15, right? They would figure out a way to keep you in there forever. Because they would have gave you, if you're black and Hispanic, they would have gave you an extra time for gang injunction. They would have you. They would have you extra time.

Even if you're not in the game. They probably didn't have that back. They would have gave you the extra five. I'm not defending this guy. I didn't hit them up. No, listen, I'm just telling you. Look, look, my brother. My brother.

I'm educating you. They would have gave you 10, 15 extra years for the gun charge in each bullet. literally they would have gave you five years from running for the cops they would have they would have found a way to put you in jail for life you literally did some littering dude they would have fucking threw in anything they could have possibly thrown in bro so that's why that's how he got away from blowing the kids head off and then get into a high-speed chase and getting out in 15 years and then handing you his and then and then being back on the streets and then trying to recruit adam 22 to be his kill more Spanish kids I didn't even try to explain like

no bro you got to understand like no bro i'm a rap pod yeah no this is like black and expand people yeah this was like 2011 but i was like you're probably like i have a black friend his name's vell yeah bell was like 16 bell's like with them on the biking trip that's what people don't understand is that vell was my friend when vell was like 16 he was just like a grimy-ass bmx kid just in the neighborhood and shit no i did not say that he was just like a fucking kid they got the skate bargain shit like it was kind of weird when i think about it now that we were like

28 we'd have the 16 year old kid just come through the house when you hang at the skate parks and shit like that and you understand the dynamic of like there's always like the OG skater homies that are like cool and like used to be signed and that would come drop off boards and merge to people and shit and but bell one time he came through and he had a tap out shirt on like you like you and i was just like yeah i was like bro i will give you some shirts if you don't wear you can't be wearing a tap out shirt if you're going to hang out with this he's like what he's like i thought this shit was cool like ufc and shit I'm like, no tapout shirts in the house.

The fact that Adam had. He walked out, went back down, and Buffalo Exchange, got a different shirt. The fact that. Buffalo Exchange. I felt bad. Because it was probably right there. Because I think he had got the shirt for like five bucks too.

He was young enough that he was open a suggestion, you know. The fact that Adam had to give you some drip advice is crazy. That is crazy. But I also do see Bell wearing the no cap shirt a lot too. That was so funny. If you give Vell a shirt, Vell's wearing a shirt. That's like, that's like Yuri. Follow the new Vell.

Instagram F-U-C-C-V-E-L. Well, I didn't. I forgot. He said that he found, he got a new Instagram. I forgot about that. I'm not going to follow my boy right now. I don't know exactly what he was doing. Wait, you know what we have to talk about before we leave today?

Because we're almost about to hit two hours. The fucking scam that's going on with Davies, Benny the butcher, Jada Kiss, bow-w-wow. Bow-W-W-W-W-W-H-M-Hat-Moss. This thing is moist as hell. Dude. Who else? Pause, pause, pause, pause, pause, pause. no, I just, who is it?

Okay, I'm going to go to the actual link. I do have to shout out this, dude, I forget his name, but he's the editor-in-chief of DJ Booth. But over the past few months, a company named DeBlock 365 has been working with several notable rap artists, including Fat Joe, Benny the Butcher, Jada Kiz, and Davies, amongst others,

offering indie rappers' mixtape placements for between $500 and $650 per slot. And basically the jig is that, They hit you up. You will get a DM, maybe, from Jada Kiss or Fat Joe or Benny the Butcher, whoever. It's somebody who they have given access to their account. And they, knock the cherry off. I saw that. I saw that happen.

That's okay. It happens. You don't smoke weed that often. And then basically, like, they're selling placements on these mixtapes. Emphasis on mixtapes. And basically, it's like a project of, like, however many songs, 20 songs, 16 songs. 60 songs per tape.

Oh, Lord. But it sounds like almost like some dat piff type shit. Like when you, they drop a dip hit tape. The funny thing, well, I'm going to get to it. I don't want to ruin the story,

but now they're partnered with that Piff. This thing. Yes. I want to know if anything has ever happened to any of these artists who pay to be honest. Can we find someone who is happy with the services

they received? Anyone, please. Okay, so let's say in this mix of CD it's like you got like a deba-baby song, you got this song. And then like, you're thrown in in the slot. No, no,

famous people, all submissions. No way. But I wonder, though, is there like an intro on it? Like, yo, I'm Benny the Butcher, and this is my new mixed. Not from what I've seen. I don't believe so, yeah. But I mean, I don't know. I'm going to be honest. What's the incentive of that then?

I mean, but they're kind of selling them a dream. They're making it seem like it's going to be doper than it is. They're not going to realize that, oh, it's going to be a 60 songs on tape. So that's kind of the whole thing is that these fans are definitely going to be left unhappy with what they these up and coming aspiring artists

or whatever they're gonna be unhappy but it's coming out on like Apple Music, Spotify, all that shit I think so. I've only seen it on SoundCloud and Dap Piff now. Who the fuck is paying $600 for slot? Just imagine you're 15, they don't know how old you are at all, you know, you can be young old, you're 15 years old, you're trying to be a rapper

you're famous, Benny the Butcher. Your best, your most favoritous rapper DMs you and it's like, yo let me see your work. The rapper is DM? But for the record, it's not them. It's someone who has access to their verified Instagram account. Fuck no.

That's fucked up. There's screenshots on Twitter of like Jada kiss just being like yeah, fuck with the music. Like all you got to do is send 700 etc. And it's all the same like copy and paste and message. It's not Jada kiss.

And I'm going to be honest I got offered this like somebody hit my line like trying to convince me like yo you can make mad money like this. And I definitely think I could. But it's just like from the rip I'm like this is so like scummy. I can't do that to my fans

My fans would fucking hate me for it Like why would I want to take A significant chunk of my Of my biggest best fans The fans who want to spend money To be on a no jumber mixtape And basically just like do something that is gonna Clearly just diminish that

I mean I do wonder if they are getting anything out of it Because I'm sure that like some people could say the thing About what we do on stream and say like Oh Some of these people on stream are like They're getting their song talked to or people aren't paying close enough attention But I think it's also like

pretty upfront about what you're getting from it. We're not trying to sign them or... Yeah, it's just basically a chance for you to maybe get a thousand people, a couple thousand people, and me or Camgirl, how's fun to hear it? It's like, it's just very upfront, whereas this seems kind of deceptive. And also the thing is too is like, if there's, you know, 1,500 people watching it, if there's 1,000 people watching, there's 900 people watching, there might be that one person that is watching that shit that's important,

that has those strings, that has to connect. Bro, I found this kid off the stream, and, And me and my manager Josh for now, like, going to, like, work with him and, like, try to, like, help cultivate his sound and shit. Because I saw some potential in, like, his specific lane. You feel what I'm like, I'm going to be honest with you. If you are really great as an artist, like, if you really are amazing, I mean, it's, if you really are that great, it's not going to be that hard. You only are going to have to get, like, a certain amount of people to hear your shit before somebody's going to want to fucking work with you. You know?

So I do some shit with it. Yeah. I mean like anyone who's really outstanding as a rapper or a singer, it just stands out like crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Especially when we do the thing that we do where like our whole thing is to literally sit there and filter through people's music all day long. You kind of start getting a better judgment within like the first 20 seconds of you hearing something to be like this is good or this is bad. This is good.

This is tolerable. This is okay. This might need a little work. Like you can just tell off the first. couple seconds of hearing it of how it's produced like if it's going to be it's kind of weird though because i would say that over 50% of the stuff that i hear on stream is produced so poorly that even if they were talented yeah it probably wouldn't be able to show through like the really bad quality recording and mixing and producing and everything like that like some people are so talented

that they could have a shitty recording and it'll still fucking shine through but like i can imagine that like if you heard like a shitty juice roll recording you still probably would have been able to be like okay oh this guy's doing something i have like leaks that are like literally like you know like leaks that like leaks that i've liked on sound cloud that are literally from like an instagram live and then have like a producer re uh reinterpreted the beat like or at least just the drums so it's literally an instagram live with like the drum pattern on top of it the funniest one is when they uh like loop it and then make a whole song out of it'll be fire though it'll be kind of fire sometimes no but um i have a lot of The crazy thing about this, like, the scam is, who the fuck is the block 365?

I was looking at the Instagram. It's the most, you don't, you know? Yeah, I know the guy owns it. It's very random, weird Instagram. I went back all the way to, like, the first post that they have, and it's just like, they're trying to be, like, a meme page. Actually, no, I'm being honest. I don't know if I know the guy who owns it, because the guy who hit me up about it might

have just been a guy who was kind of acting as an affiliate on behalf of it, because I've never heard of him owning a company. called that. I just recognize that this is definitely like, I don't know. So the guy I talked to like might be involved with it in some capacity. I don't know if he actually owns it. But for me, I just, I wouldn't personally want to do that. And then the crazy thing is I was looking at their Instagram today. And I think Benny the butcher has like 15 of them now. 15 mixtapes? Yes. Five. Oh, he's like, stack up. Tell out my nigga Benny the Bush. Hey, and the craziest. Also another crazy thing is if these artists really want to do that to make money,

why are they cutting in this this D the block 365 they could totally do this on their own and have an intern or fucking manager just do it and they don't have to cut 50% but the appeal the appeal is like oh all I have to do

is like give you my Instagram password and then you're going to like basically because think about that you could totally hire someone else underneath you to do that for way less if there's seven mixtapes with 60 songs and each one that's 420 songs and if we're actually believing

that it's $700 per song 500 $500 per song. For a slot, yeah. Somebody do 420 times 500. Well, I'm not even going to try. I'm too high for this. No, I calculated earlier.

I think they're making about 15K per mixtape. I'm about to look right now. Where the fuck is my big business? Big business phone. You use the calculator app a lot when you're out selling drugs on the streets? Yeah, for sure. Nice. That's cool.

All my apps are fucking on zero right now. I use the calculator app now for poker stuff. Look at Kim, girl running from the dro. 420 times 500? 500. 200,000 210,000? Sounds about right

That's crazy God damn What the fuck All right Let's run that up I'm actually The block Damn I could have made

200 K Hmm I know right But I mean I felt that though It's like It comes at a certain point It's like

It's dignity or you know It's like you Because that's 200K You're gonna lose You're gonna lose that On that at the end When like you have no business Left because nobody

wants to fuck with you The thing is Is that Benny in particular Oh, he can run that up. Some of the artists, it's kind of like, whatever, like their music career ain't really doing anything right now. When I look at Benny, I'm like, Benny is a guy whose entire career is based on the fact that he is just like 1,000 percent like him and just doing stuff that everybody, like when they see it, it's believable. He seems real as fuck. His whole brand is based on authenticity.

And this, you know, it doesn't really necessarily jive with that that well. so it's kind of or he could he could just be being up front with it like nigger i'm stacking my bread niggie this is a jug if you want to pay you can't tour right now if you want to pay if you want to pay to get on this mixtape nigga here here you go it's an option yeah you know i don't know but like like the old school equivalent of it would be to be like an artist who was kind of popping and just do like a bunch of random ass mixtape hostings for random ass artists for like you know i'm trying however many thousands of dollars not that but like i'm pretty sure dj drama and dj fudge gangster grills and I don't know

For gangsta gris Back in the day there was definitely whack-ass Gangster girls that Some guy paid DJ drama However many thousands of dollars DJ scream DJ scream And they do your fucking drops

You put all the songs on that album Think about how many random Chappaholics there was Damn son where'd you find this Oh yeah and then there's a million dudes who are actually Like more liberally selling Even if DJ drama like Because I don't know how much of it he did

But the thing is that like if your shit was wag People just wouldn't see it. Oh, shit. And then... What is it? What the fuck? Yeah, like, if it's whack and nobody sees it... I think you have your flashlight on your phone.

Oh, I also killed the cherry again. Yeah, you just like to stab it and make it go out. It's because I'm high as shit and I just keep like... I don't know. We've been doing these streams with me at AD, like, fucking during the week, like, with Yuri sometimes. And like, bro, we just smoke so much. It's so faded. How was y'all...

How was the show last week? I wasn't here, you know? It got so crazy. Well, wow. I wanted to walk out, honestly. I was so over. I'm sorry. I don't know if, like, you guys are only doing the two-person screen thing,

but, like, a lot of times I was just, like, looking over, like. We were basically just arguing about everything. So, me and AD arguing so intently. Going like this around each other. It was just like, you guys were never going to be in the middle. And I was like, can we just end this? Yeah. Me and him have done that before, too, though, about random shit.

Yeah. No, I feel like you two not, like, me, shout out to AD, but I think that you two are, like, seemed to come to a consensus. It was good in the sense that we were arguing, which is good because it's content, but it was bad in the sense that it felt like we weren't listening to each other enough or it wasn't like, well, I mean, he admittedly, like, doesn't even know Shane Dawson was and was kind of like arguing things that like nobody has said, which to me made the whole thing kind of outrageous, that he was saying like, he masturbated to an 11 year old.

And I'm like, no, like you're imagining something that's different than what actually happened. Okay, but not even that, but exactly what you're going to say probably. To him is like you can't even go there because he brought up the point of like if you even talk or touch children period, you're going to get killed. You know, so like I think his ethics and morals just. Yeah. But to have a conversation with no context can be very, very difficult. No, for sure. You know, like it's just not really enjoyable to watch, I think.

Yeah. I mean, and like, I don't know. I feel like to him he's just like, which is kind of like what I was thinking too is like, I feel like you be looking at shit from the opposite end. And to normal people who just like are not entrapped in your world. They're like, how the fuck could you even be possibly defending this? You're trying to defend it on some YouTube like, oh, I don't think everyone should be canceled for their old content shit. He's looking at it like some niggas. This niggia fake jacked off to an 11 year old girl.

It don't matter what the fuck is going on. And that's what most people look at it like. But then you're trying to defend it on some YouTube shit is making niggas look at you like what the fuck. This is the whole thing about it is that it's never attractive to be. the one defending somebody who's been accused of some crazy shit because you can't help but look like you're kind of justifying them having done that thing or joked around about that thing or the literal interpretation of that thing. So it's like I just kind of had to say that which like I realized that I was going to get shit for it. But I just there's just a certain extent to

which I don't know. And a lot of it to be honest is loyalty. Like I at the end of the day, if you're really tight with somebody or you really like believe in somebody and you like somebody and that is how I feel about Shane Dosses that I just really think he is a good person. Like when people are using old shit to like assassinate his character and stuff, it's like, I just, it's hard for me to just sit by and watch that without having some empathy for him. And that is so controversial. You know what you almost sound like though?

I'm going to be honest. You sound like a cop defending another cop that, like, killed somebody. And then they're like, you know what, but. But a cop is never going to admit that that's the reason why he's defending him. He came to my barbecue. He met my wife. He was a good dude. But then that,

that was what happened in the conversation. is that then I started bringing up Eminem, and I'm like, well, why is Eminem not cancelable when he had the songs of saying the N-word and saying, black girls are dumb, et cetera, and AD immediately starts justifying why Eminem has done so much positive shit, so why it's okay?

And I'm like, you're doing the exact same thing that you're getting on my ass for doing for Shane Dawson, because at the end of the day, it really is a question of like, do you fuck with that person? Do you like that person? Because if NBA Young Boy's music sucked

or if Kodak Black's music sucked, they would already be out of here because they've done so much fucking crazy shit. Nobody would care, yeah. Right, like the fucking... Or even Gucci Man or somebody. Right. Take some whack up-and-coming artist that has like one hit and then have them be the person

who said the thing about Lauren London right after Nipsey died. And their entire career vanishes in a fucking flash. But because we love Kodak Black's music, somehow everybody was able to tolerate that, you know? Because at the end of the day, that really is how it works. Or like fucking TayK, for example, if Tayk's music wasn't so beloved and looked at like, holy shit, this kid was like about to be next up. Because it was like, it was very like early on.

And like a lot of his songs that went super viral were all like just demo songs of him being a young ass kid. Like 95% of people found out about him the moment that that fucking murder case slash that song came out. That was just the best timing ever. And then like he had a whole bunch of other like all his songs are like, you know, a minute, something shorter. All like kind of like demo kind of songs. And like if people weren't so invested in it, it wouldn't be a whole like free take hate thing. It wouldn't have been like, oh, we lost this person. And if it was just like, if it was just some nigga that was on the run and doing fucked up shit,

it would have been just like some other by the wayside story that just kind of passed. So a million rappers, like rappers who like are trash and like murdered somebody and it just didn't really go anywhere. Take it became a thing because people found out that he actually had some really good music at the exact moment that they found out that he had been arrested for murder. No, and that makes sense why in the whole Shane Dawson situation, the biggest outcry is from people that don't like him or even don't even know who he is. Or don't know who it makes sense. Because if you don't know who somebody, if you're AD in a situation, you don't know who the fuck this is. I mean, even if you knew who he is, you could still, like, you still wouldn't be wrong by saying what he did was wrong or whatever. But if you knew who he was, you might have a more chance of being like, he's a YouTuber back then.

If you knew about YouTube, like YouTube was crazier back then, blah, blah, blah. You could try to explain it away. But being someone who has no ties to the situation at all, and you just see in, all you get on Twitter, or you in a group chat, you get a text from Adam and them, and it's literally a video of him jacking off or fake jacking off to a poster of Willow Smith as a kid.

And you're a nigga from the hood, you just see that. That's all you know. Imagine how I were to tell you guys, yo, like, there's this fucking white rapper, and he said the N-word in a song back in the day, and he also had a hook on the song saying that black girls are stupid. even heard this supposed song.

Oh, you haven't heard it? No. I'll look it up, though. Yeah. But the crazy thing is that at one point, Nick Cannon sampled it and made it the chorus on one of his diss songs of Eminem. Hold on. I'm about to put this in my notes of things to look up, this M&M, Nick Cannon Beef.

I need to really dive into this. But if I told you that outside of the context of it being Eminem who made a fucking million classic record and everybody loves them or whatever, it would be a very different conversation. If we were talking about, if you found that out about G. easy I wonder how jeez's career would go because jeez is pretty beloved as well not as much as but if you were to pick somebody who was like very disposable to the culture and that and you found that out about them it's over but m&m's ties to the culture were already so tight at that point people already love him so much that when people but at the same time though when that happened

people forget m&m went dark for years you didn't see him he was he was dipped off he wasn't really like around you stopped kind of seeing them ever at like award shows or parties and shit like he just wasn't that's when he became like reclusive like eminent but that's also like he's been like that for the past like what 10 but i also feel like that's when he like got sober and shit too i feel like and was like 20 years you know like he hadn't been out for that long this was like 20 years ago i think it was it was early 2000 it wasn't just that this came out this is the round time is the movie and it was the fact that the source and benzino were weaponizing it and like making huge. They made it as big

as they possibly could. And they were like beefing with murder ink and Jaru and all them. It was at the height of the 50 cent murder ink and everything. It was a lot of shit going on at this time. Great time to be a rap fan, man. That was some Trayway shit right there, bro. Nah, for real, that was really some nuts shit going on and then fucking like proof got

killed and shit and it was like hell of crazy shit going on. To be a fan RIP proof. To be a fan of the shady G-unit universe, double X-XL was kind of like part of it because the magazine was so good and it was like before the internet really kicked off so like double xl was where you were like learning about this shit every month it was such a fucking good time to be a rap fan like there was so much

good music so much entertaining drama and beef i can't believe that that used to be like those used to be really the only sources of shit like this now now now you get on the internet it's literally academics on world star and no jumper on instagram you can't even get away from this shit like it's shit like this niggas like us all but like what we're 500 of us if we were still in the traditional sense of like that hip hop lane like will we all be like fucking writers at complex or something we're writing like trying to like trying to like break the next new story story to get to give to double excel but there were so few jobs in that space at that time like how many people is double xl really going to cover in a month like when i go back and look at those old issues of double

Excel now. It's kind of insane because it's so transparent that the artists that they're covering are the same ones who are being advertised by the labels. It's like a one-to-one. Like dudes have like clearly been signed to a label and so boom, they have like a feature page in the fucking magazine or whatever. In retrospect, it seems crazy. But I mean, it still is the same way. It's just hella transparent now. And now you don't need that to become relevant or become famous. Right. Then if you didn't have that, you were nobody.

There was nobody. You weren't in those. There were so few ways to promote an artist. And I see that with like when I look at all those BMX magazines and stuff. Like the only way you could promote your new BMX brand was to advertise in that magazine. So they get to charge like $10,000 a fucking page for an advertisement. They get to fucking, you know, you have to do exactly what they want you to do. Nobody would ever say anything bad about the labels and shit, you know.

That's fact. No, but you couldn't speak out. damn we are really just in a different time of just everything and now but the crazy thing now is that there's so many people who talk about rap on the internet that would never have been able to get into the position of like working at pitchfork working at the source working at double ex so etc. Academics or Dom is live or something like should I say it? You dig right exactly there's people who are even further away like you know there's like 19 year old kids and shit who have like a half a million followers and are just talking shit on Twitter and talking shit on fucking YouTube and making little never mind like the TikTok kids who are like 14 with millions of followers from fucking dancing but that at the end of the day is still like content creation you know there that's somebody who in earlier times would have wanted to be a rapper or a dancer or a singer in a more

corporate traditional sense I'm off the rails right now I have to pee again I'd never have to pee a second time too what I didn't get to go pee the first time I'm going to do it right now oh hell yeah I'm kind of drinking a lot of water oh oh I I have to give, wait, wait, wait, how's fun? Sit down for one more second. Hey, hey. You got to observe this. You got to observe this. What? Me, to me, remember?

Yes. Oh, look at this. What the fuck. Aaron Carter's love chain. I'm gifting it to Camgirl. I just wanted you to see that. Because this is the thing. Wait, this one's fake. Aaron Carter's Vlad interview is coming out.

I'm sorry that I couldn't let you piss. This is really kind of fucked up. But Aaron Carter's Vlad interview is coming out and he, according to Vlad, says that this chain is real. I think it is real. Real what? This thing's fake as fuck. Let me see.

Where's the diamond tester? It feels very fake. Let me see. Let me see. But I want to know if it's real so I could go get melted down. Oh no. This is looking kind of fugazi. He defends this in his Vlad interview apparently.

It's not out yet. It's really low quality. Like, I guess it depends on your definition of a real. Cubic zicornia or whatever. Cicornea. Whatever. Cibic. The chania.

The chain is all fucked up. Look, how did you get it so like, like, you want to get it? I want to put me. Oh, I'll night you with it. Crown her. I got you. Look. I have a...

I don't know. I'm just my outfit. This is big. This is big for the culture. It's almost like having Aaron Carter put it on my neck. Oh, remember that? I wasn't here that day. The only fucking day I could have come.

You weren't here today when he gave you $1,000. And gave me a chain. That chain was real, right? You're right for the camera. It's real? You took it. You test the gold? Bro, stop playing.

I was about to set this shit. Stop playing with that man. All right, you ready? Shut up to 1,100 people. We had a lot of viewers this week somehow. Thank you guys. This is a very important moment here. This is very, very big for the culture.

You gotta move your hair a little bit. Okay, there we go. All right. How do I look? Crown her. There you go. Raccoos. Gang.

You're lucky kind of lit. Love meth gang. LMG for life.