No Jumper - The No Jumper Show Ep. 61

Episode Date: September 23, 2020

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That's one of the best things about this podcast, honestly, is that every single week, when we do it, we're just talking about the most random thing imaginable for it to start. Usually it's like, we're live? We're live? Yeah, it is like that. Well, no one really, are you supposed to count down like three, two, one live? That's what Joe Rogan does. I mean, usually we'll just talk about the most, yeah, like you said, the most random thing and then we just live. And then it's like, holy shit, we were just talking about that on camera. We're going to jail.

You know what I like about your hair right now? What? You have this like, is it like greasers or whatever? You have this one like hangy, hangy, hangy. Oh, do I? Yeah, I like it. This didn't take long. I like it.

I like it. I'm going to be totally honest. Let's talk about my hair. I like it. So while I was just on vacation in Laguna and while we were out there, it's called the baby moon. You ever heard of that? Is that like, oh, the last honeymoon before you take before the baby.

The baby moon is when you go and you spend one last blissful weekend, in this case, four days together before the baby. pops out. Josh, you have a baby moon? No. He didn't have a baby moon. The baby was not mooned. But for me, yeah, that was so weird. But no, everybody going to Tulum and shit, like, oh, man. I hate that that's such a hotspot. It's crazy how that happened. Because I went there in January. I remember when you guys went. I didn't know that it was going to, that it was like Tulum, Touloum, like the fucking place where everyone was going to go. And now because of COVID, it's like the one place where people can actually go.

So why I see a picture of AD OT Genesis, Lil Keed, and Buster Rhymes. I love it. Kicking it in a club or some shit. In Tulum. I thought that was so funny that there's only so many places to go. So of course, like this super random group of people that would probably never really be kicking it. It just happens to be all there. Like that reminds me of like, do you ever see the office episode where they go on,

Jim and Pam, go on vacation? And then they come back and they have these friends, Franken Beans. You know what I'm talking about? Basically, it's like a joke about the. that when you go on vacation, you meet people that you would never hang out normally and they become like your best friends because you're on vacation. And then you get back from vacation. And if you ever try to kick with them again, then it's kind of like, why were we, why did we love them so much? Yeah, but I mean, I'm sure that Buster Rhymes and AD would get along great normally. But

yeah, it's like, Tulum is just blown out. I see him way no tweet because they turned, they turned Toulom into Dykeman, which is a, you know, family statement. Guess who's going to Tulum in, in four weeks? Are you really? Yes. It's amazing. honestly it's a great I heard it's amazing but the fact that it's so like blown up and Corona and everything is like making me feel weary about it

but I mean I've only heard good things about it so from my experience super nice beaches lots of good restaurants lots of like actual like really legit ass like we went to a lot of Mexican restaurants that were fire out there like crazy good food and shit and like it is

blown out but it's like it's still it's still a good place to go this is a shit but I also can't imagine going there and just running into like a ton of rappers. That would blow my mind. Guess what else is there right now? Who? Joe Budded and the crew.

They're all in Touloum? Right now. Chilling on vacation. I didn't know that. That's amazing. I wish I was there when they were there. If I was on the beach and I just saw Mall and Rory and Joe Budden sitting there and some beach chairs and parks but you can't see him.

No, I see a picture of a me out of day. He's all camera. Do you agree with me that it feels kind of weird when you see parks because you're so used to not seeing them? I still kind of don't know what he looks like I just remember when they did like their tour and they had this like video promotion and then he was in it and I was like who's that?

Well they did a photo I think it was like a mugshot thing of them all standing against a wall but you kind of... That's a promo. Right, you kind of get why Joe wouldn't want him on camera because like having a gigantic white man there like just it seems like he looks huge like it just seems like that would kind of change

like the on camera vibe but I wonder if it's his choice. Have you ever heard them talk about? why he's not on camera? I was just going to bring that up because there's a way that they can fit him in without it looking too weird, like how they're in the sofa and then Mall here, they can have him like more in the back so he doesn't look so large. But isn't he engineering it? So maybe he's doing like this shit, but also has a mic. Oh, is he engineering as well? Because that way makes sense. Yeah, they always talk about him being the engineer. But like he's a really

good point. He's like the Jamie. Is that Joe Rogan's guy? But don't they have a camera on him? They used to be able to switch Jamie, but I haven't seen it in. forever. I don't really watch a lot of Joe Rogan, I'm going to be honest. I feel like Joe Bunnan would, I feel like Joe, if I'm Joe Budden, I would feel pretty good about two thirds African American, one third white Irish guy. That, to me, that's like a good ratio. And then you got another white guy, but he's off camera.

It seems like that, I don't know. It's like half a white guy kind of. Sometimes you see his hand, so it's like a little bit more than 33%. I've never seen his hand. I don't want to you. Parks his hand. I told you. I was, I listen on Spotify.

Isn't it exciting that, uh, you're going to be able to just watch the Joe button show on YouTube as soon as it comes out now and you don't have to fucking log into Spotify for some reason no because I don't care because I don't watch it on YouTube I don't like the ads I don't like that when they listen to music you can't hear it like they like silence I don't like that's the best thing they had going yeah it's a weird just being able to do that that's nice YouTube yeah not the same I don't love listening to the sleeper so I usually end it before they get to that but like when I watch stuff on YouTube and they're talking about a song and they're all like vibing out and it's like silent it's such a weird

thing to watch it took me a little bit to realize that that's what's what's happening yeah but sometimes like honestly when they play music and like you actually see jo and by the way l-ohl at us getting into this fandom which we can do because house phone is at least 20 something minutes late we don't we don't even know if he uh is aware that it is tuesday we don't even know if he knows that he has a podcast that he does every Tuesday, but I don't think he's ever seen the Joe Bunn podcast. Yeah, he would have nothing to provide to this conversation. Yeah, he'd be like, what? Joe Budden from pumping up?

That's crazy. I'm just thinking about what he would say. Do you, fuck, I really hope he shows up today. That would be crazy. If he doesn't, it'd be kind of trippy, yeah. Like, what could happen in his life that he wouldn't show up and do you think it would be honest about it? Or you think he would be like, oh, sorry, someone in my family had a seizure?

Do you think he would just come up with like a creative excuse? because I feel like this is not like working at Pax Sun. Like you can't just be like, yo, my grandmother was in the hospital. Like somebody. I took my dog to the vet. The fans will figure out that his grandma wasn't in the hospital and they will not be happy with his lying.

I wonder if he's just sleeping because that's usually what it is from partying the night before. But like it's 6 p.m. You've partied too much if you can't be functional by Tuesday night. Like I totally understand if Monday is kind of a wash. Once like Friday, Saturday, Sunday, you're like performing experiments on your body with drugs and alcohol. It's like kind of understandable that Monday you're not going to be feeling too good, but Tuesday night you're still going to be washed up.

No, if you're sleeping at 6 p.m., like you are an absolute fucking waste of you. Oh my God. There were times in my life where I realized what a piece of shit I was because I would be going to bed and I'd be setting my alarm for like 2 p.m. And I'd be like, this is, I'm shit. I'm a bad, crappy, unrealized human being right. now. When did you stop doing that? Um, I stopped drinking and doing drugs probably about two years ago, so, yeah. Before then you're waking up at two? No, but like occasionally, you know? And I remember I missed

a community day and I didn't get a shiny sunglasses squirrel. So that was because of cocaine and that kind of sucks. I thought community, community was like a day you go out to the community and like plant flowers. You're talking about fucking Pokemon Go. No, you go out as a group. Wow, Josh just got a shiny dun sparse. That's insane. I got one. How do you see that from all the way over there? You pointed it at me. I knew what it was. I got the instincts.

I caught one a couple weeks ago, so. Welcome to the club, brother. Don't give a fuck about Pokemon Go. Sorry. Sorry, don't care. Abandoning your culture. Don't care. Last time, Houseone didn't show up.

We usually have a substitute, which is Yuri. Do you still want to do that? Or should we just sit us two? I mean, when you have Yuri on here, you're kind of just like asking to open up his, like, you know, you want to talk about him being clueless or, like, a Housewoman being Clos about Joe Bunton podcast. Yuri is clues to absolutely everything that has happened to the world ever. He's going to be like Ace Family or something.

No, he'll be like, oh, this one guy on Twitch who has 50 views, like he fucking said that too. And I'm going to be like, Gary, I'm going to throw you off a building if you say something about some random Twitch streamer again. You know what he might know about. And I don't know if you know about. Did you know Nelk got their YouTube partnership taken away? They did. That's just crazy.

It is crazy. But also I did feel like, you know, I haven't been in the hot. harshest person in terms of the COVID thing. But I do feel like them having these large gatherings is just kind of like obviously going to attract that kind of energy. And I wasn't really that surprised. It seems like it's a little foolish for them, given that they have like 5 million plus subscribers.

I don't know. I get it. And I agree that it's dangerous for the young people that watch them. But who is YouTube to tell them like how to live their life? Right. I mean. Because that's what that's the thing that I'm getting kind of like weary about all these different social media platforms, it's like private companies that are dictate, they're

making their own rules for the people that are on their platform. You know, it's not, I don't know. But I think this is, where can they draw the line? But this is a little different because, okay, I'm quite offended by Bousie not being able to have another Instagram just because it seems like that ban is permanent. And I think that the idea that Bousie would just be able to be banned from Instagram with all the deals that he was doing in his DMs and stuff. Like if Instagram were to say,

Boosie, you are officially in Instagram prison. You cannot post for six months, but you can still use your DMs and you can still use it to view. That I would consider an acceptable punishment. Like, okay, you posted a naked woman's vagina on Instagram,

which I'm assuming is probably at least one of the things that Boosie has done. Then you get a warning. You can't use it for a day. Whatever. There needs to be a more organized court of how this works. In the case of Nelk,

I feel like they had their monetization. removed. Realistically, it's probably going to be back within, I would say, a month or two. But they would have to stop doing what they have been doing. I agree that the idea of them being removed from the revenue program, like, they could still post. They just can't get the good paying ads. I mean, Instagram's a little different because you're not making money off it either way. So keep in mind that remember that NELC, I probably, do they even care about not having ads? Because they said that they always get to monetize anyways. And that's why they push their merch so much. Yeah, and they make like millions of dollars every time they drop merch.

So I don't think they're like super worried about it. And YouTube's already been kind of like burying a lot of the note content because it is so edgy. But yeah, I mean, them having their revenue removed for a few weeks or whatever. Like I also wonder if Shane Dawson got his back because they took his way too during all that stuff. But like I they did it to Keem Star a while back too because he fucking, um, he was beefing with Ethan from H3 so hard. And I guess like they took some I think there was something in one of his videos where there was like a cartoon depiction of someone being shot or something. It was like a depiction of violence. They took it as a threat.

So Keemstar didn't get any like monetization for a few weeks, which you know like I felt like it was kind of unfairly applied in that case. But I get that. Bousie just not being able to have an Instagram is just bananas to me. Like I don't know how the fuck they feel like they can get away with that. So I know that he got banned. but do you know what it was for it? Was it like a vagina you said? I'm pretty sure it's just nudity over and over and over.

I don't think Boosy's doing like he's not doing drugs stuff on. There's no violent stuff on there. But there's definitely lots of naked girls for sure. Because I mean, that's the same shit as a house phone not getting his Twitter back. But that wasn't that just about him saying the hard R? Yeah, but I'm just saying like they're just banning people for their actions on the platform. If there's ever been an example of the social media gods being just completely out of control, that seems like a pretty clear example.

that house phone a black man is not allowed to have Twitter because he used the N word in the context of a joke this seems like indefensible I have no idea how maybe we're wrong maybe he did something worse than that but that just seems like insane I think um I think Blasey got deleted the same week as house phone and I think he said something really stupid to like in a DM like LOL go KYS or something like that and he's going to get mad if he sees this in a DM or just something stupid like jokingly like to a friend something along the lines and he's going to get mad i know because i'm i'm saying the story completely wrong but that's crazy something along the lines of a joke that was offensive k y s i'll do it these days i don't that seems insane yeah but he got

deleted the same like weak does the name does the name christopher called well ring a bell to you he's the no the crying nazi there was like basically this meme there was a guy who a couple years ago he was just this like super ignorant like skinhead like racist dude or whatever and he was like viral like over and over and over for just doing stupid shit on social media and then he ended up getting caught up in that like uh the charlottesville march was he the one that got punched he no that's richard uh richard spencer why do you know all these nazis names well i read an article about it actually those are probably those are only two of the ones i could really name but the christopher caldwell dude he is on trial right now in new hampshire because he messaged another white supremacist on twitter or no on telegram which is the only like because apparently that's the one that's encrypted or whatever no right because apparently that's like the only social media network that once you're like a real hardcore Nazi you get kicked off everything that's the only one you have left um he told another Nazi that if he didn't expose another Nazi whose identity was completely private he told him I'm gonna fuck your wife unless you turn over this person's identity and he's right now on trial and is facing 27 years

for criminal threats or some shit because he says I'm gonna fuck your wife if you don't tell me this other person's identity. I mean, is it just me? Like, I have no sympathy for this guy, but doesn't it seem like a very weird thing to go on trial for it? Because in order for it to be treated like a real criminal threat, like saying, I'll fuck your wife. Like, you don't have any means or capacity by which to fuck his wife.

And like, you know, that's just such a strange, like, thing to be on trial for, I think. So I understand they wanted to throw the guy in jail, but I mean. First of all, fuck Nazis. Right. And two, like, what about all? all the rappers that they're in each other to shoot each other. Oh, yeah. Imagine every single one.

Yeah, you never hear about that. All these Chicago do is, yeah. Okay, and also, wait, I'm still shook about it. I'm pretty sure Telegram, no, never mind. It might be signal. I thought it's not Telegram. Because if I'm not mistaken, Telegram is kind of like a WhatsApp type app.

It's not like a social media app. It's just sending messages. And I remember, he who must not be named, who's a drug dealer friend of ours, was going to give me like a Molly Connect. And the only way I could talk to the Molly Connect was through telegram. Wow. And so now I'm like, maybe it's not safe.

I don't know. Somehow those conversations were leaked. I don't know what you have to do to get Telegram to turn over messages. I've never even heard a telegram until I was reading about this guy last night. Are you sure it's telegram? I don't know. But that's what's crazy is that this dude who, I don't know how big he ever was, but they kicked him off Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, etc. Christopher?

Yeah. He basically doesn't exist anymore because there's, only this one platform that he's able to even do any kind of content on. Because he got banned from Gab, which is like the super white power friendly social network. Like you can be a Nazi on Gab. You have to really like threaten serious violence to get banned from there. What was he going viral for? And what, wait, why is he the crying Nazi? Was he cry in his videos? Yeah, because he like, he was about to get arrested for something else. So he like went on live stream. Like he had like a live feed type thing. And because he was about

to get arrested, he like sort of like let down his whole. like tough guy Nazi thing and just sort of bawling his eyes out. And so it just became this like huge meme because everybody thought it was so funny to see him crying, which I don't even actually think I saw the video of him crying. But it's kind of crazy because this guy's on trial for his life now and nobody even cares. It's not in the news at all. I read like on some random as website. I mean, I just randomly saw this article about it. And I was like, man, what the fuck happened that guy? Like around 2016, you would have thought that all, there was like a new Nazi in the news. every day of all these like internet like white power guys.

Yeah. And it feels like they all like none of them like rose to the ranks and became like a big well-known thing. Like every single one of them, you barely like they all have had horrible things happen to them. You never hear about them in the media anymore. It's almost like the media kind of realized like, oh, if we keep covering these guys, we're making them famous and maybe that's not a good thing.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, back to my hair. I don't like that quick switch up because then I I just thought about Nazi hair. Did the Nazis still claim this haircut? Because I remember that was a thing for a while. I know they claimed that one hand signal that I'm not going to do.

Yeah. Yeah. I actually saw a picture of Joe Biden doing that today. I mean, I'm sure he didn't mean anything about it. But yeah, when I was in Laguna, I had a guy I met on Instagram come through and give me a haircut in the bathroom

of the hotel. I love that. Loved it. Great haircut experience. How do you know if it's someone that you could trust? He seemed like he had a job. So I figured, You know.

And what are the odds, even if he was crazy? Like, what are the odds that he's going to, like, be able to get past all the security and the valet at the hotel? No, what if he's in your room and, like, just gets the scissors and just stabs your neck? Oh, that could have happened, yeah. You know? Wow, that would be a level of dedication. I didn't think about that, yeah. I was picturing him coming back afterwards to kill me.

Yeah, they can't do that. Once they're in, though, it's like the vampire. You can't invite him in. Yeah, once you're in, you're in. That's a good point. Maybe he will kill me. I plan on actually getting my haircut by this guy more frequently, so hopefully all out. me to live. I'm just imagining him watching it now being like, I'm not a murderer.

Sorry. Sorry, barber. I haven't killed anyone. He's probably just like this nice, just barber guy that likes cutting hair. Yeah, seemed totally nice. Seems like he was just like, isn't it nice when they give you like these little, I don't know, whatever they do, like the massage thing that they go like this or something? He didn't rub any product in my beard, although Lena did get me some hair product and beard cream. Yeah, you need to do it. Your hair before was very scraggly and like, oh yeah, I didn't get a haircut for like months prior to this one. Like, I just fucking fully let it go it was just bushy as fuck it was i was every single thing i was eating was getting in my beard it was like brushing my teeth all of a sudden i'm having to like fucking

completely wash your whole face just douse my face and water afterwards because i was just getting way too much fucking yeah it was it was bad okay really dumb question why do you think that your beard hairs and your pub hairs are like the same texture instead of the hair on your head well number one i think it's interesting that you assumed that about my pubs but yeah i guess you i would say You know what I mean? It's more thick and coarse and like, like I said, it's scraggly. Yeah, what is it about hair, like head hair that makes it such a different texture? Like imagine if your beard hair was like your hair is just like sticking down and like you straighten it. Yeah, that would be pretty terrible. No, that's a good point. Pubes are just, like, pubs are like, hey, they're all just dry.

Do people like, do people do anything to make their pubs have better texture? I've never. There was a thing going on with girls where they did vagacials. Where they have the actual vagina redesigned, right? I don't know about that. Oh, you're talking about just the hair? I think, I mean, I guess if you have hair there, but then also your vagina walls and stuff, I think they, like, facialize it.

Really? Or something. Put product on it. I don't know. The walls on the inside? Okay, I don't know about the inside. I don't know too much about these vagasials, but I know, like, it was vagina facial.

So they, like, put product in it. And then, like, I guess if you have hair, they put things in it. I used to have a girlfriend back in the day who was totally convinced that she wanted to get her labia reduced in size. Labia is the... That's amazing that you don't know. um it's the labia is the lips of the vagina really people i thought people usually get the middle

no no the clit the clit the clip what are they going to do to the clit no because some some girl you've never seen that i've actually watched documentaries on it where they have to reduce it because it hangs out too much and like people make that's what i'm talking about like the fucking vagina lips of this girl who i'm seeing who i mean to be honest like when i think about it now it probably was completely fine but she had been convinced that like she wanted to get this surgery to actually snip that shit down and make the lips smaller and less hanging. Yeah, I've watched documentaries on girls and then they've showed the thing or like pictures of it.

That's crazy, right? Yeah, and it's like very low hanging. It was weird to be having that conversation with her. Like, no, please, please don't chop your own labia off. This was your girlfriend? Yeah, for a little while. Okay. Well, at least she was comfortable enough to tell you that.

It didn't make me comfortable. I felt bad for her. Like, wow, you've been really brainwashed by this world into thinking that there's only one acceptable labia style. Yeah, you know what? That's good that you were like not shaming her into getting it because I'm sure that the reason why she wanted to get it was because she was made fun of before by other guys. You know? I actually think that I might have been the only sole reason why she thought that there was something wrong with her vagina. Did you say something? I didn't say something. God, this is so embarrassing. What? She took her pants and you went,

no but at the time this is back in the day this is old i was literally like a teenager there was a like i didn't have my own laptop at this time i had to use her computer i wrote a quick email to my friend this is i don't even think i had a cell phone at this time or if i did it was like i wasn't texting but my friend asked me like how the trip was going and i said it's great her vagina's a little hangy but she's cool I'll see you when I get back. I think that was basically what I said. You're a piece of shit.

I know. And then I forgot to hit send. And she brought it up like weeks later that she saw the email. And I was just like petrified because I mean, clearly that was the last thing on earth that I would have wanted her to know that I was actually saying to my friend. It was very young. Your piece of shit. Yeah, I really like when I think about it now, God, that really hurt. I hope she's okay now.

Yeah. I hope that she never had her vagina lopped off. That would be really fucked up. That sounds fucking painful. I don't even know what the healing process would be like. I don't know if we want to go deeper and deeper into this, but do you know about penis injections? Is that like pumping it? Yeah, they fill it with like some kind of like oil or like synthetic liquid type stuff.

What, like cement? I don't think cement is really a liquid. Because like it's like butt implants. No, but basically like if you ever see a porn dude and it kind of seems like their weiner is like gigantic even when it's soft. That I think is kind of like a dead giveaway. But I went on Google when I first heard about this and I searched penis injections. Vice video came up right away.

It was like an interview with a doctor basically talking about how they do this, what it's all about. Mind-blowing. Public, don't be fooled. He looked it up because he was interesting getting it for his porn career. If I thought that I could get it and there would be like absolutely no side effects, then that would be kind of interesting because I mean, hey, you can never have too much of a good thing but I'm pretty sure that there's like bad things that come with filling your penis up

with oil what if they have like basement injection places like they have like the basement ass stuff I'm definitely down with that yeah I would definitely be on to get some foreign software in my wiener ouch how much what are we talking about I don't know I'm like kind of stalling because I'm like I wonder if household will show up I know I think we should give up to like I already feel kind of guilty though I told the story about all the the gangsters being together in Tulum and stuff because I felt like that was something that when I thought about that in my head, like, oh, I should mention that. I was thinking, oh, house phone is the kind of person who would be amused by AD and Buster Arms and Lil Kied hanging out in Mexico.

My favorite thing was their video with AD and OT with their hats on and like salsa dancing. There's something that happens where AD will point his camera at OT Genesis and say like, go, go. And just straight OT, no matter what time it is, it could be 3 o'clock in the morning. It could be 3 p.m. It could be any time of day, OT will just start. Crip walking start just doing a little salsa dance. He just hits these dances and it's just like, yo, like I wish I had a friend

that I could just point the camera at and they would just start doing a little jig for me. Housebone. He doesn't really dance that much, right? Although that would be cool if he was my Crip walking friend. He just like, I don't think I've ever watched. I don't think I've ever watched him

Crip walk, but he does the woe a lot or what is it? Hit him folks. The woe was an era. It's still an era, I think. You think? Well, for Housephone. Because he's doing it every week when we do when we do the live stream.

He'll woe the songs? Yeah. That makes sense. Man, when the woe came out, it was like, I feel like that was like little pumps. Like he made that his own for a while. He was like the woe guy. Yeah. They were really good at.

But come on, we're not going to take it away from the people in Dallas. Yeah. Or Houston. What happened to 10K? He was the woke creator. And he had a beef with some other dude because the other dude was saying he made it. I remember that. It's like you throwing stuff up in the air the whole time.

I felt like I was juggling. No, the best one is when you pass it to every single person in the room. But like the signature thing for the woe is that the song that you're doing, the woe too has to have the crazy bass thing. The distorted bass. That was every song for a while. No, and then it's like no melody. It's just drums and like,

yeah. There's still so many rappers that every song they put out is like that though. Like I was watching this dude who the dude who Lil Uzi randomly appeared in the guy's video. Let's talk about that. I love that. So was his name Just Zeke? Was that it? We ended up tagging him in the Instagram post, even though he wasn't tagged at first.

But Just Zeke, is that it? Anyway, like, it was a cool song. But it was kind of like, man, like, that song kind of like has that vibe of like a lot of other songs. But I still thought it was a pretty good song. But one of me, though, is like, I'm very conspiracy-minded. You think, because that was Philly, do you think Uzi knew who the dude was? Because the dude already had a little bit of a wave. going than before Uzi popped up in his video you know it was like already he had a thing going

I wanted to what extent that dude had a homie the new Uzi that was like yo can you pull up to the gas station and hop in this video real quick because if that was how that happened and then somebody put it on social media like that's the perfect caption to make you go viral like oh little uzi just randomly popped in this dude's video that's the perfect thing to make that go viral because people love the idea of like something completely unexpected happening I don't like this conspiracy theory I just want I just like the idea that that Uzi is this magical unicorn that pops up places and just nice to people. And just brings joy and happiness.

Just like that fucking video where he's talking to the kids in the school bus. Yes. My favorite. How often is Uzi just in Philly? Like, I wonder how much time he really spends there. People said, some people say that he moved back there. He moved back there. He's living there.

That's why he works so closely with like working on dying and stuff because they all live out there. Oh, really? I didn't know that. I got to pay more attention to exactly where Lohsi is locating himself. I'm like, I feel like I know too much. I feel like I don't know enough. I know too much.

I want to know everything. I just got ghosted on for an interview. I don't know if I want to say with who. We're going to let the, let the, but this is a person who's ghosted on me at least three times now for interviews. That was there the first time or second time. My notes for this person's interview make no sense because they're like completely out of order. I have questions that are like stuff that happened this week.

I have questions that are like when you were 15. Let's talk about this thing like when you first got in the game, whatever. I feel like by the time you interview him, you're going to have 10 pages of notes just from all the, like, a compiled of all the different times you had to like interview or get ready for his interview. That was why when I was going to do it today, I was actually planning on it being like, I was going to make a joke out of it and be like, I'm honest with you. My notes are completely all over the place. So this interview might make no sense. You guys had it out? I love you.

I love you too. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Recycle or die?

Love it. I heard recycling doesn't do anything. We're going to talk about that later, though. I don't want to get into that, but yes, I know. You read that article? I've been read articles. They are not buying plastic anymore. Like when we put plastic in recyclables or sell it for five cents or whatever,

China used to buy them, but now it's not worth even five cents. To like ship it over there, clean it. It's not even worth it. It's not worth it because then... Where the fuck are they putting it? Right. Once you recycle the plastic, the plastic can only be used, like, maybe like, one or two more times, but the actual cost to process the plastic and make it usable again.

is not worth the amount. But the reason why recycling became such a thing is because the plastic companies, like people forget that plastic was a huge scapegoat for, like, I forget if it was the late 80s or the 90s or whatever, but it was very much agreed upon that like plastic is bad, plastic is indicative of why the environment is going to shit. So the plastic companies decided,

oh, we're going to start recycling. The whole time, they knew that recycling was not a sustainable solution, but they just encouraged it anyway because it got the public's pressure off of them. And so all of a sudden, plastic wasn't this devil anymore. Plastic was, oh, yeah, plastic, it was bad for the environment, but now we recycle it. It was all bullshit. It was all just a waste of money to convince the public that plastic was safe.

Now enter 2020, nobody is having a conversation about like, oh, you're drinking over a red cup, it's plastic, it's fucked up. Nobody's saying that anymore. So now they're kind of like, well, maybe we just not recycle at all anymore since it's a total waste of time and it doesn't do anything. Isn't that crazy? I don't know. Like, I don't know how much longer we can live on this earth. And I was watching this documentary of, uh, fucking, what's it named? Jeff Bezos and the fucking thing that he's building in space where he could hold like a million people in one, what spacecraft thingy and we're all going to live in it's going to be beautiful. And I don't know. I'm like, oh, when are we going to do that? Why would I want to go to space?

I don't know. Oh, and I also watched the fucking NASA documentary where they killed seven people. I watched the first episode of that. It's pretty dry. It's pretty dry. I'm not going to lie, but it was interesting enough for me to watch it. Yeah. I'm one episode. episode in. I'm going to keep watching it. But yeah, that shit was worth watching. What's her name? Christom Culliffe, New Hampshire. Nashua? Maybe. Probably not Nashua, but. She could have been your teacher. She could have if she wasn't an astronaut. But isn't it interesting that the fucking space program was like diversified, like super early on?

It was like a really big deal for them that they have a lot of women and different races and shit. Shout to the Asian guy, the first Asian astronaut. Really? You remember? I only was the first episode. So I might have missed that. But you didn't even get to the Asian yet? No. Wow. But isn't that crazy to think all these people watching? Like, what year was that when they did the first, the diversity? Early 90s or 80s? It was 90s. That's not early.

Huh? 86 was when that happened. Damn, I was three. 86? That's still too late in my opinion. When did they like stop segregation? Oh. Well, I mean, it's still kind of going on, but.

Right. But I mean, I don't think. I don't know. I would have thought they would have done it in the 70s. I would have expected the space program to be one of the things that was last. to be diversified. Although I guess it was so new at that time that they were sort of able to sort of start from scratch

and say like, you know. I think the weirdest thing was that they were trying to make it so like commercialized. Really? Like an airline craft. Yeah. Yeah. That doesn't seem.

I mean, for me it seems like that just because I don't remember the era of them doing that. And now being an astronaut and going to space is so like far removed from like what I can think of doing. Yeah. That like they were trying to sell this idea to people like anyone can go to space. Like you can fucking whatever a thousand dollar ticket let's go to Mars. Wasn't Lance? I don't think I heard that.

Somebody just went by, I'm going to clock him at 120 miles per hour. That was a fast sound and motorbike out there. But yeah, I would, uh, what the fuck are you just saying? I forget what I was about to say? Lance Armstrong. No. Lance Bass. From NSYNC?

Uh-huh. He was going to do it at one point. Wasn't he supposed to raise like $100 million or some shit for him to go to space? Like you had to raise some ridiculous amount of money. but they were going to shoot his ass into space. Wow. I didn't know that. I don't remember a lot of the details about it,

but that was going to be a thing. What rapper would you like to see goes to space? Young thug. Oh my God. Young thug, Uzi, all the aliens. They just need to be put on a spaceship, go make an album in space.

If Thug and Uzi went to space together, I just feel like flexen would be done in rap because once you've gone to space, like... What more can you do? Yeah, you're going to tell me about your shoes. I'm going to give a fuck. I was just on the must. moon literally shut the fuck up i'm young thug and i was just on the moon it's over period it's over

the rap the rap game is over that's fire you know what i was thinking the other day or this morning actually is that the thing i think the thing that bothers me about like designer sneakers is that a pair of vans is objectively i think a better pair of shoes than a pair of balenciagas but like a Gucci purse is clearly of like infinitely better quality than like a fucking old Navy purse or like I'm sure if you were to compare it to like you know I'm sure there's like good purses that aren't like $1,500 but they you know at least when it comes to like leather goods the designer thing seems to make a lot more sense whereas with sneakers I don't think that Gucci needs to be making sneakers. This is what my mom told me about designer clothes in general because I was

I was looking at a pair of Louis Vuitton sneakers I wanted and I still want and she was telling me like there's no point of you spending $1,500 on on things that you're going to be walking on the ground with. You can walk on poop. You can walk on fucking dirt. You don't know. But a purse, you're not going to be dragging across the floor.

Imagine if you had a fucking $15 person, you're dragging across the floor, you know? Yeah, I feel like. But I still like designer shoes. Yeah. I feel it. You know,

yeah. I mean, it doesn't bother me, but it feels like for women, the purse is just like, you know, you need a purse. It's not, you don't need 10 purses,

although I guess it's probably a lot of, you do? You feel like you need 10 purses, like 10 designer purses just to switch in it out. Yes. What are you talking about? There's so many different outfits and there's so many different types of purses on all sizes, satchel bags, what's it called? Bucket bags. I feel like I'm so lucky to have a girlfriend who's like mostly clueless about fashion.

What are you talking about? She has a lot of designer. Not really. I don't know. I'm just flexing on her behalf. When me and her first started dating, I got her a couple pairs of designer shoes. She maybe has bought herself a couple pairs and the same thing with the bag. Uh-huh. with the bags, but for the most part, she seems like pretty uncomfortable with anything designer. I feel like that's something that we slowly kind of realize together is that we are humble,

quaint people that don't need to be engaging in us. Well, you have to think about it this way. It's, you know, if when you buy a first class ticket on an airline versus an economy seat, you're still going to take you from point A to point B. Right. You know, same shit with cars, a luxury vehicle versus a fucking Fiat, you know? She's more into the first class flights than me. For me, I'm pretty stupid.

Economy for life. It's cool. I mean, as long as my seat goes back. And also I'm pretty small. If I was six, three, maybe I would have an issue with that. I don't know. In my mind, it's like, I'm going to pay two. Like, I just think of it too logically.

I'm going to pay, like, let's say, $2,000 extra to sit in a more comfortable seat. In a filthy giant tube in the air. It doesn't really add up to me. I would rather spend that money on my actual vacation or wherever I'm going and spend it on a nice hotel or food. Yeah, I just can't. Like, it makes no sense to me. And I get it that like a lot of people are just like, oh, I'm making all this money. I have money to blow.

I'm like, you know, like, I feel like if you make like a million dollars a month, then you can get first class. That's the target. For me, that is how much I honestly think I would have to be making in order to then feel like, oh, I'll spend $2,000 to sit in a more comfortable seat for this fucking five-hour flight. It's interesting that we're talking about materialism and stuff right now because on my way here, I was watching a Lupe Fiasco rant, actually, about Kanye West. Really, really good. He should be a podcaster.

We should have it on here. He's great. He was great. You should actually just interview him. But he was just talking about materialism in general and fame and money and how it's all so stupid. And Rolex, we put in this high regard. most best fucking watch, but every single products he's ever had, has broken in like two years. Ferraris, he went on this long-ass rant about how Ferraris were only built because the owner

wanted to race cars. And so they didn't even think about like the car itself. And then when they were selling it, they weren't selling the actual car. They were selling maintenance for the car. Really? Very crazy. But I don't know if his rant was, it made all the sense when he was talking for 40 minutes. No, yeah. I'm going to be honest with you. I think that materialism is a disease that in time humanity really needs to unlearn in order to like reach its full potential because I just think that like people are brainwashed. Like people are brainwashed like the same way that I would tell like, okay, just for an example, me and Laura one time, we were walking through the mall. I had just given Laura a raise or whatever and she was thinking about some buying this designer thing. And I just said to her straight up, I'm like, listen, I would not recommend you do that because once you start buying design,

shit, it's like a fucking addiction. You're gonna want more of it. And the truth is, is that nobody is looking at you right now. Like, oh, you don't have designer shit. And that, like... Some people do. Blame people. Yeah, I guess. But who the fuck are you really

trying to impress with that shit? I just didn't... That's exactly what he was saying about that, too. Like, if you want to flex so hard and get a fucking Lambo or whatever, like, who are you really trying to impress? Like, are you trying to impress the people from the hood that you were at? Like, they're going to rob you.

Are you trying to impress the, like, the really rich people, they're richer than you. Right. You know? So like, who are you really trying to impress? Yeah, it's just broke people trying to impress other broke people. Exactly. Which is just really not how you want to live your life.

Yeah, but... But do you really think that there's a way that capital... Materialism can... We can overcome materialism because our economy is built on capitalism and built on consumers being brainwashed into thinking we need every fucking thing and more and thinking, you know? And like the rap music that we love is like a huge percentage of the time of the lyrics is spent on convincing you that you need nice cars,

you need fancy jewelry, you need to do extremely expensive drugs, smoke extremely expensive weed, basically like anything that you could, like if you were to like come up with a guideline, a book of guidelines for how to live your life in a financially conservative way that will eventually set you up for the future,

every single rap, not every rap sign. A huge percentage of rap signs are basically giving you the worst financial advice you could ever imagine. Yeah, no, agreed. And this is what the music that the children are listening to. Right.

But I would advise you. people the same thing. Like, if I see like a young dude that I know, like drinking lean, I would tell them that is a fucking crazy habit. It's one of the worst things that you can do to your body. It's incredibly expensive and it's not going to make your life better in any fucking way at all. And I would say the exact same thing about like designer fashion and shit.

Like that shit is for millionaires. It is for people that do not have to worry about $5,000, 10,000 bucks here or whatever. If you get to that point, then I think that this makes sense for you. as a consumer, like maybe you could rock that shit. But I mean, also, I get it. A lot of people just like clothes. Yeah. I respect that, you know.

And I totally don't think it's okay or like, I think it's fine if you save up your money and you buy this bag or whatever that you really, really want. And like, it's like this one time purchase maybe once a year or twice a year or every two years or something that you like work really hard for. Like I don't think that's bad. But when you have, you have to get this drop and have to get that drop. And it just becomes this whole toxic like, flat.

I don't know. I think that's when it gets too much. It's a bad cycle to get into. And especially if you can't afford it. Like, same thing with the designer shit. Like, if it's a reasonable percentage of your income, like, although a lot of the rappers, it's like, like, you know, I would say that young thug, like, maybe your life would be better if you didn't drink lean. But I'm sure that whatever you're spending on lean is a reasonable percentage of his total

income. So, okay, fine. Whatever. Dudes, I know who smoke fucking $500 worth of weed every day or two. I mean, it's maybe not like the best way. for me to suggest that you spend your money, but if you can afford it, it is what it is. But it's just, that's the problem is that then you have

all the things that Kylie Jenner is doing with her money and you have girls who are making $20,000 a year and they want to do the things that Kylie Jenner is doing. And it's like, no, Kylie is a billionaire. She can afford those things. And brands pay her to try to deceive you into thinking that those are reasonable financial things for you to do. And it's just not.

She's getting paid to tell you to spend crazy amounts of money on that shit. you don't understand the fucking amount of girls that were like going fucking nuts when she did her uh her purse closet to her she has a closet just for purses right it is crazy and it was insane it's insane that's all i felt when i saw shane dawson's video about jeffrey star oh my god yeah his purse i mean and that you know as soon as he started to say like i bought this for 20 000 realistically it's going to be worth 50 000 within a year or two i'm like well i guess that is probably a pretty good use of your money then but for me. People say that shit, but I've never seen anyone really sell their shit. They're like, oh my God, I bought this burkin, but it's going to be worth this much. Do people really sell their things after? Like, they usually just keep it.

Yeah, does anyone do that? I feel like your material purchases drag you down as a human being. Like having all that excessive weight to your existence, I just don't really think it's necessarily like a good thing. I used to really value what? This is where Housewell needs to be. Yeah, you're like, nah, bro, you ain't seen the new Supreme, bro. No, because I mean, I've never been to his room, but I've heard about his room and all the hoodies and all the clothes and the shoes and the hats and the this.

But you know what? Housephone is a drip journeyman because he does the thing that actually makes having on that drip kind of makes sense, which is that you have the depop, you buy something, you rock it a bunch of times, you get the fucking flex on Instagram, you get to use that to your advantage, you wear it in a music video, and then he just flips the shit. And if you can do that consistently and actually like make money or not, you get to, spend as much money as you might otherwise. Then I get it.

I'm, you know, I would assume that somebody like Ian Connor, like his closet is probably insane, but he also probably like flip shit back and forth. So it's not like he's just going to the mall and just like destroying his fucking savings account all the time, you know? No. House phone. You don't think that. House phones buying.

Yes, he does flip stuff and depop stuff. But from what I've seen, he does a lot of impulse purchases that he does not need to do. Right. And I tell him all the time, like, I don't want a pocket watch you, but what the fuck are you But I am a person who I realize the value of clothing and stuff because let's just say that I, every time you saw a new photo of me on Instagram, I had some crazy new designer shoes, some crazy fucking expensive-ass outfit. Let's say I had a couple of Lamborghinis in the fucking driveway, at least.

I would be able to like be on the gram really flexing that shit and it would probably affect my career in a positive way. Like just knowing how fucking stupid people are, they would just see that and they'd think like, oh yeah, man, 22. killing it. He got all the dopest cars. He got all the flies drip. It's like, you know, I could do that, but like, I would much rather like save for the future and like, you know, just, I don't know. But then I get it because there is like value that you can derive from putting out this fucking image. Like I know people who are influencers that people view them completely differently than they would otherwise because they're constantly flexing their purchases. And I mean, that's cool for them if they like doing that. First of all, no one calls you 22. Some people do. Oh, that's lame. 22. Someone always seems to be like, 22, doose, doots!

Really? I always hear to go, no jumper. Yeah, I got a lot. No jumper. Or Waka calling me jumper over and over in his interview. I love that. A jumper. A jump.

I think he was just going jump. Jump. Jump. A jump. Jump man. If there wasn't already a jump man, maybe I would be jump man. No, no. You can't take the jump man's fucking name.

I can't really jump like that. Yeah. I don't think I just like that from MJ. You can't take the jump because. because that's why you're no jumper. Yeah. You know, I was thinking about, though,

was going to, like, the basketball court and, like, watching some videos about how to shoot free throw shots properly and then just, like, getting good at it because, like, you know, as bad as I am at shooting a basketball right now, I feel like there has to be some extent to which I could get my percentage up there,

my technique, so it was respectable. And that would just be funny because, you know, there's all these apps that actually, like, trace the trajectory of you shooting the ball and, like... Well, like, by the, like, angle or whatever? Like, you set up, your fucking phone to film you and it shows you the angle and I'm pretty sure that it gives you

some kind of like coaching like from what it can derive based on what it sees in the footage of you which I find like really fascinating. Wow. Technology. If you see me sink in a three throw a free throw shot from the fucking half point line. I know that's not where a free throw shot is shot from, but if you see that you will know that I probably got that app. I can't you can't even dribble right? I could dribble. Sorry, sorry, sorry. That would be funny if I could. There's probably plenty of people that can't dribble, right?

I remember being a kid in like learning to dribble? I can't imagine you fucking being outside. Well, there's a point in your life where you're like not capable of figuring out that motion. Or what about the speed bag? Oh, I can't do it. That shit's too hard. I maybe could get a little rhythm going, but it would probably not be too impressive looking. No, you don't get that close to it.

Oh, I thought. It like swings back at you. It could, but if you were like, putting your head like in the fucking meat grinder. Yeah, but like you're perfect technique. You're kind of away from your face, I would think. Oh, I don't know. From all the times I've done it, it gets like way too close to my face.

I have to get back on a personal trainer regiments. Me too. I want a personal trainer. The only time I had an ass was when I had a personal trainer and then he hit on me because he bought a new car. Are you serious? It was so uncomfortable. When was this?

I was when I was, I still knew you. It was in like, I don't know, like maybe two, three, three years ago or something. I just worked at LA Fitness. So you had a completely platonic relationship. Of course. Why the, I wouldn't, not interested in him. And then one day he got a new car and how did he go about trying to sleep with you through the car? He showed me a picture of his new car and he said like, oh, do you want to go on a ride in it?

Like, or and then he had, the follow-up question was, do you have a boyfriend? And then I paid him and then I never talked to him again. How many sessions had you done prior to that? I did. I worked out with him for at least like six months. Wow. I was very fit. That is so insane to wait that long before you drop that hammer.

Maybe I had a girlfriend or broke up with her. I don't know. It was really uncomfortable, and I was like, I don't ever want to talk to you or see you again. And then one time I was at the Boba time in Korea Town and I saw him and I went to the, I hid in the bathroom. Really? Yes, I didn't want to talk to him. He's like, huge. You were that uncomfortable with him hitting on you, huh?

He's just like scary and big and like. You know he's on steroids? Kind of. He's huge. That's hot. There's a guy. I don't, there's a guy who, I don't want to specify what the thing that he does for us in our life is. But I know him?

No, but it's a person who me and Lena have. at times paid to do, you know, something, like, for us. It's not like anything mysterious, but I just, no, that would be something. No, but basically, like, he, you know, like, he provides a service. Like, I would give an example of, like, cleaning? No, not cleaning.

But it would be like if he was, I can't think of anything that would even be close enough, but it's not the thing. It would be like if she had a nail tech, but less nail techie, right? Like, like a person who provides a service. Okay, okay. And when he first met her, he did not acknowledge that he had a wife. He did not acknowledge that he had kids on the way until she was like, yeah, I have a boyfriend I live with and he's, you know, at my house right now or whatever.

And then pretty quickly he started to like tell her like, oh, actually, hey. Or like he slowly let it drop like, oh, yeah, I have a wife and shit. But isn't that fucking hilarious that this guy was like going to completely leave her in the dark about the fact that he had a wife at home and stuff because he was obviously just going to try to fuck? It was her personal trainer home. It wasn't personal trainer. but it was something like that. Oh, okay. Isn't that crazy?

Guys are weird. Yeah. They'll just, from my time and experience being a woman, I've realized men are very fucking stupid. And they'll just take any opportunity, like a woman acknowledging your existence of them thinking they have a chance to sleep with you.

It must be so tough being a woman and just constantly having that experience of like, oh, I thought this person actually wanted to work, wanted me to work for them, or actually wanted to hire me for this thing, or actually wanted to be my friend and then actually they want to fuck. Yeah, the worst, that's why it's so safe having a boyfriend.

Oh my God. Yeah, right. Because it's like. I find such comfort in having a girlfriend. It's not like that. I mean, yeah, I guess girls don't really hit on me because of the girlfriend thing that much, but just in general, not having to think about who you're going to be sleeping with outside the OnlyFans content is a lot of stress that I, like, used to deal with that I didn't really know that I was dealing with.

Yeah, I can't imagine being a guy and just wanting to get your dick away all, like, all the time. Yeah. And like the chase, like, that you have to like, oh, tonight, like, bar, let's go. And especially once, once you start riding that wave of like having an ego and thinking like, oh, I have money and I'm famous and I'm cool now, like, you see dudes who really get on that fucking hamster wheel and just fucking get completely addicted to getting pussy to a point that's like unbelievably unhealthy and basically like torpedo their entire. lives. Yeah. I feel so lucky to be honest that I didn't really get to do that because I was dating somebody right when my shit started to take off and I just stayed with her. Oh. Yeah. I was there during the inception and the process. It's so cute. Yeah. And when I look at how boring and cute our life is now and the fact that we have a baby on the way and the fact that we can't. Keep forgetting you have a baby

like I cannot imagine living the life that I used to live. Yeah, you were you lived a life of debauchery. Oh yeah. You guys were crazy. I can't even imagine that fucking house. I'm so glad I met you guys like the day you were moving out. Of the Korea Town House. Yeah, I live two blocks away from you. You know that, right?

Really? The first time we all went to Korean barbecue, and I walked to your guys' house. I was like, oh, I lived two blocks down. Wow. I'm so glad I did not know anyone. There was always so many people partying at my house, and like the doors would just be like unlocked, like all the time.

Like, I would come home. The doors are just unlocked. I'd be so mad, but I got so mad about it so many times and it kept happening that eventually I just like lost the will to get angry about it. So whenever I would leave my leave the house, I would like take my laptop and like hide it in like a little hiding spot and shit. Do you have a lock on your door? They would leave it unlocked because I would like your door or my actual door. Dude, you know, I did at one point and then one of my drunk ass roommate

kicked my fucking door in one night. And I think I was with a girl and he was like kicking the door in or something and like, yeah. That was. Was it TV? I'm trying to think of like who was Who would be drunk enough to do that? Definitely, Stevie. I don't think I can see Began like doing that to a door. I remember one time pre-Lenna, I was sleeping with this porn star girl, and fucking Stevie was just so drunk. And he walks in the house, he sees the high heels at the bottom of the stairs,

and he starts screaming her name. And she was so mad that she started to try to, like, run out of my room to go attack him in the hallway. He can identify women by their shoes? I had already told him. It said her name inside the shoe. It has like a name tag on it. I'm like, wow, Stevie's really painting. Did your parents write your name inside your underwear when you were a kid?

Is that something I wanted to do for my daughter? Maybe she goes to camp. No, but my brother would, like, any time he owned anything, a water bottle, a backpack, leave it at school, leave it at the playground, leave it everywhere. So everything he owned. But besides underwear, I don't know why he would be taking that off. Jackets, everything, write your name in. It's interesting to me that I have left items of clothes. all throughout my childhood, I have so many memories of having a hoodie that I really liked or having a jacket that I really liked and just leaving it somewhere.

So now I have this fucking permanent thing in my brain that is constantly like checking for all my possessions. Before I leave. Like the wallet in my pocket, I'm kind of always like subconsciously like tapping it to make sure it's there. Make sure the keys are there. If I do have a jacket, I feel like I have like a like a mental connection with the jacket where I can't really like leave without the jacket because my brain is going to go like you had a jacket. Like get the jagged. I think like you live life and you lose so many items along the way. I remember like I went to like one EDC and I lost my camera, my phone, my wallet, everything

I owned. And then after that day is where I was like, this needs to stop. And I never lost anything again. Was that like a drunken drug thing, I would assume? I don't know about drunken, but yes, drug thing. It was just me. I lost out of my brain like, ah, uh-huh. The worst would be when I was off the Zanz and I would just be like losing things and

forgetting things and things would happen to me and I wouldn't even know the next day and I'm looking through my phone trying to figure out like who the fuck is this person I was texting. I'm so glad I never had a Zan phase. I feel like everyone I know has had a Zan phase in some way or another and it sounds it just sounds bad. It just sounds like a black hole of like what happened in this period of time. And I would talk to some people like when I had the store, I was already like kind of passed the Zan thing like once I got the store at Melrose. But I would talk to people and I would realize like, other people that I knew who worked on Melrose or hung out on Melrose.

Like I remember this one dude, oh, I'm not going to mention his name because I think you, you know this person. He was just talking about like a Zan party that he went to and just describing how fucked up everyone was and how fucking, and I was just listening to him like, this sounds like a fucking nightmare. This sounds like, this sounds like 15 fucking lawsuits about to pop off. It just, I'm just. like, wow, like that is like terrifying.

Like a bunch of fucking zombies, like a party based around everybody basically getting to the point that they're like, zombies with no memory. This cannot end well. Everyone just walk around like this. And that's why I'm kind of amazed by AD and OT because I'm like, that's kind of amazing that you guys can get this shit face wasted all the time and you never beef. You never get mad at each other. Their friendship looks so beautiful and so loving.

I love it. The funniest thing is when I went to China, Max Raleigh and I saw, I was going to, I combined their names into OD in my head. AD Genesis. I'm surprised he never took on the last name. You should. That would be cool. And then I look at AD and all his friends and they're very, you know, they look big and

tough. I was like, oh, those are your friends. He's like, yeah, we party. I was like, okay. AD actually has been like working out really hard since he's been coming here and like training to fight and all this stuff. He said he was like doing jujitsu or something, right? But he also is like kind of acknowledging lately that like the alcohol is what's holding him back.

That he probably could get like really ripped and shit, but he would probably not be able to drink. Are they in Jamaica right now? They are in Jamaica now. That's crazy. Smoking weed on the plane with the pilot. Wow. I was pretty impressed by that. I'm not impressed easily, but I like that.

I love that. That stood out to me. Guess what I did this weekend. Tell me. We had a, oh, I love your love. Tell me. We had a very wholesome. barbecue at our friend's house across the street and a rapper pulled up by the name of key and he

ended up cooking us some burgers and chicken fat man key pulled up and manned the barbecue yes that's amazing right everybody go watch fat man keys uh no jumper interview from back in the day do people still call him fat man key i mean i'm just used to calling him that because there's like a few other key you know there's key 21 savages manager there's like a few different keys you know i wouldn't want to yeah confuse the keys no or you can just say key what that's connection point. Key really has like some of the, that one Kenny Beetz project, what is this shit call?

It's like one of the best mixtapes ever. 333 or something? 777. Oh. That was a phenomenal. Phenomenal album. But you have to realize that every time that Kenny Beetz works on a project where it's like this is a collaborative project between me and just the artist.

You know, like the 03 grita one. It's like that he just is able to create like the perfect soundscape like album. Mm. They just lock in in that little room, which I have. now seen like a million people record freestyle's in. Yeah, the cave. I like the TJX6 one. That one was funny as fuck. Yeah, that one was legendary. You did have no jumper shirt on.

Yeah, the one that he never took off. He did wear it all. Probably a lot more. Whereas like we did merch with Blueface, man, I remember thinking that that Blueface merch we did was going to blow. Yeah. And it did not. The dollar sign with Blueface's face on it did okay. Yeah. But we made the shirts that said, Bop. Yeah, I ate under it.

I don't think other people thought that was as funny as we did. I thought it was hilarious. Everybody for a while, everybody's bop. Yeah. The best one I thought was the dollar sign as a towel or like a rug, but I don't think those were ever made. But if those were made, I think those would have, excuse me, went up. Didn't we sell those? I feel like we just sold the shirts. But Jason's not here. He can't confirm. He's done so much merch over the years. So what's the new latest no jump or drop that you guys are going to do next? Um, well, I have to speak to Eliza, but we have a shirt for her that people who have seen the

Eden the doll podcast are probably already familiar with. So we have that. A little late. Could have dropped that maybe like two months ago and I probably would have done better. But yeah, so there's that. Cool. And then we have like a whole new on some shit drop because we actually have an awesome shit BMX video that we filmed in San Francisco

is going to be coming out soon. So we got a whole line that we're going to drop for that. Fashion Demics, I need my post. Where's it at? And then in terms of other no-jumber stuff. Is it a drip? or is it a skip? Oh, it's a drip. I mean, I'm going to have to leave that to the fashion

Demics commenters, but yeah, that's going to be interesting. I'm going to have to see that. But you're claiming it's a certified drip. I personally think it's certified drip. There's various, you know, we went through a period with OSS where I felt like the designs were a little less inspired, but I'm pretty happy with all the new stuff.

And I'm mostly just happy to have the team hanging out, doing stuff. Personally, I think we're going to go on a mission this week where we're going to get some more BMX clips. So I'm very excited. I'm very much like, we're going for it. I'm glad you're getting back to your roots. You didn't forget about where you came from.

I missed it. Honestly, the back thing was just fucking me out for so long. Yeah, but we had a back problem. My back was so bad for so long. Now that that's gone, I'm like, fuck, let's ride. I'm enjoying it a lot. But, yeah, also got a ton of porn in my fucking schedule right now, to be honest. Tons of porn.

Oh, I can't wait for that. Which is always kind of weird, you know, it's like scheduling myself out and just knowing that that's what I have to do at that time. I find it very easy. but it is kind of like a weird thing to know that you're going to do for that day got to go mix some bodily fluids mixing up the medicine do you want to talk about any of my amazing topics throw on me uh bobby schmurda was denied parole for this year if i was bobby shmurda's lawyer i would grab the judge by his neck and scream have you

not seen this six nine shit have you not seen instagram let him The streets need Schmurna. That's what I would do if I was his lawyer. I guess it's probably part of why I'm not a lawyer, but I'm offended. Okay, wait. So I remember the reports maybe a few months ago where they're saying that he was possibly going to be released this year. It seemed like people were very confident. How long does he have to wait now to find out a year or some shit before you get another fucking parole hearing, whatever?

if Bobby Schmurter gets COVID in there they have to let him out there will be hell to pay I don't know I hope he's okay but um yeah I don't know why they were so I didn't I don't remember I don't remember why they were so hell bent on like he's definitely probably getting released this year and then what happened is that they denied his parole because of a shank he was trying to get into the

the prison that's a thing like he had a shank recently or no this was back when it first happened and somebody tried to bring him a fucking knife or whatever. Right. So that's why? I believe that's what some YouTubers are speculating. Listen, I'm going to go on a limb and say that if Bobby Schmerta felt like he needed to protect himself in prison, he probably really did. I'm sure it goes down there. And if he felt like he needed something that he couldn't get on the inside of the prison, he probably really needed it.

Now, I'm not saying that that as, you know, if you're a prison general or whatever the fuck, a prison guard, prison operator, prison engineer. I'm not saying that you should take that and absolve him of his crime but I do feel like cut the guy break Do you remember when when he did the song with 6-9? God.

Right? That is something that could have only taken place at that moment in time and yeah I mean I hate jailverses. I can never enjoy a jail verse. Yeah, it just, yeah, it's a phone call. I don't care if it's a J-Fucking Z.

If there's a J-Fucking Z, if there's a Vres, you know what? Send me the genius link. I will read through the lyrics, but I don't really feel like, I don't need to listen to it. Yeah, I feel you. Send me the lyrics. It's like them like writing you a letter. You can just read it. I just, I can't. Like, I understand that there's like artists that you want to support and you want to show them love, like, Draco put out a project from prison. I listened to it just to see where he was at because they told me that the recording quality was really good. How did they record it so good? I don't know. I guess they figured something out with a fucking phone line or something.

But either way, Draco, it was just announced that, like, they, uh, they issued a gag order or whatever. Like,

they're really trying to, like, because Draco is still speaking about his case on social media, they basically silenced him. He has no chance of going to trial anytime soon. I mean, they're just dragging Draco through the mud. And it's insane how it's just,

it's just this never ending. I watched the, um, the video that you guys put out. And I didn't realize how I'm fucking. insane it was and how it's like he was led out and then get back in for the same thing and like none of it makes sense to me and then and nobody thinks that he shot the guy who died he wasn't the question is the question is did draco drive these people to this party did he

purposefully organize a gang and drive them to this party to kill this guy that is the actual question and there's no evidence to really suggest that drako was in on it or that he knew it was going to happen. In reality, what happened was he was hanging out with his friends. His friends see a guy from another gang that they had issues with and they ended up shooting it out. And then they like hopped in the car and Draco left. But there's no, there's no reason that Draco would want to have killed that guy. What? RIP Red Bull.

Is, is that RJ's friend? I don't even know. What was the RJ involvement? They thought he was going to shoot him or some shit? The, the prosecution tried to make the argument that Draco went to that party basically looking for Draco or looking for RJ and like the the evidence of that was that they had a jailhouse snitch who was talking to one of the guys that was involved in the shooting and he said I believe quote unquote we was looking for a dude from Athens which is RJ is from Athens Park. So like that is the evidence that they were trying to use to prove that like Draco basically

created a gang environment in which you know they were they were going to try to kill people basically like that's that's the argument. And it's kind of astonishing that this argument, like, when you think about murder cases, you think, like, it's pretty hard to prove that someone's responsible for a murder unless they actually, like, you know, pointed the gun at someone or you have evidence that they were involved in orchestrating and planning the murder. But the thing is that they use these gang enhancements to basically say, like, oh, you committed this crime that would normally get you, like, somebody like Ralphie, the plug, who now is out, actually, and hopefully stays that way. but Ralphie like he was like credit card scamming at Neiman margus but then they basically like said because you are in a gang which is the stink team which is actually a fucking rap crew that therefore we're going to like throw this gang enhancement on all your other charges and it's just like super evil fucked up shit to let them basically lock people away that they would never be able to otherwise go watch my video about Drake-o-Ruler if you are interested the whole story is just insane makes no fucking sense and like What's the evidence? What's the fucking proof? Like, where's the justice?

I don't know. And where's the outrage? Because I feel like L.A. is so crabs in a bucket that it's like you just don't really have like a level of support from the L.A. community. Like when Meek Mill was locked up and it was conceived as of a super fair, he had Rock Nation. He had JZ to go to bat for him. We need to hit up JZ. I know. Like, that's what sucks is that.

But, you know, there are JZs of L.A. that in theory could be making a big stink out of this. That's the whole problem with the Draco thing is that me and Jeff Weiss are the only people

who talk about it. Obviously Draco's homies and stuff but when it comes to the media it's just not that much and I don't even want to put myself on Jeff Weiss's level because he's putting in crazy work

documenting this shit, going to court, etc. And it's just like I don't, you know, I feel like if Dr. Dre had an Instagram post up about it then that would change everything. I understand that Dr. Dre

maybe doesn't really know or give a fuck about Draco. And obviously, like, when it comes to people who are more on a street level, like, you know, somebody like YG, I mean, Draco basically said YG is a bitch for not saying something. Like, Draco, like, if there was a chance that anybody was going to help him out of there, probably burned some bridges and I understand that. But I just wish that there were louder voices that were willing to take on the Draco thing. Because it is so cruel.

L.A. doesn't seem like it usually works out that way, though. I'm trying to think of, like, who would, you know, be at that kind of level that. would be able to make that much more. LeBron. Yeah. Shout out, Draco. I don't know if you know who he is, but he's a very good rapper. And you're in our city now.

And you're in our city. Not really my city so much, but a city where I live. He is actually from here. LeBron, talk about Draco the ruler. Right? And your son, smoking weed. Brony. How do you feel about that?

I like it. He joins Faze. I've never heard of this kid in my life. All of a sudden, there's a fucking drama lair post. Oh, Brony is in Faze. It's Fays. brawny now. A week later, boom, smoking kush. I want to know if Faye's Banks brought him an eighth of some fucking

Chiba Chiba and now that's how he got on the weed game. You think it's possible? I think it is. I'm not going to pin that on Fays Banks. I'm going to put it on all the members of Fays. You all turned Faze brawny into a pothead. Into a drug addicts. Think about that. Think about how many rappers, this kid has probably met how many. basketball player, athletes, superstars he's met, actors, whatever. He starts hanging on with the phase boys and he's smoking Cush? Come on.

How did it get leaked? Was it like an Instagram story or? He put it on his Instagram story and then immediately deleted. That makes you wonder. Maybe he just wants to smoke fucking weed and be like, bro, I smoke weed. Get over it. But I really hope my daughter doesn't like think like, oh, I'm going to, here's some bad thing that I'm doing it. I'm just going to do it.

Fuck what my parents think because then it's going to be like, you know, You ever think about that? That's going to have to be a conversation at one point. Like, yes, I know that your friends use social media to do this, this, and this. But your parents are not just random people. So we're going to have, like, way different standards. Like, I really don't even want my kid out of phone until, you know, as late as possible in life. How old is Brony? I don't know, but he's probably either 18 or near 18.

Because Kylie Jenner just announced, oh, to the world that she's a pothead. No, it was one of the other. Kendall, Kendall, Kendall, Jenner. Kendall, who one time me and Nate Richter were standing outside of the Onsome shit store and we see her pull up park and walk over to a tattoo parlor, no security, her and her friend, they saw us staring at them, they looked over a little bit real quick. That blew our minds. Damn, that's crazy.

Elizabeth's parking right on Melrose. Like, you don't know that it goes down here. Wait, when was this? A couple years ago. I feel like some of them just kind of be out, like, doing anything. Because my friends used to work at Wasteland in, uh, Sherman Oaks and like a bunch of famous people would just pull up all the time like all those like Kendall's and all them I feel like it's way different for like rapper type superstars versus like you know like who's who's gonna shoot Kendall

Maybe someone though. I think it's for them it's not as much of a shooting thing as much as it as like a stalking or like weird obsessive fans like trying to like Like kiss their butt or something. I don't know yeah I feel like Kendall would have to deal with like a psycho stalker like but she's just so ridiculous ridiculously famous that for me that's why we were so shocked we're standing there she pulls up in a little sports car thing parks it and just walks a block away to go to the tattoo shop we're like whoa that is kind of crazy i never would have thought that somebody on your level would be doing that right now but people say that shit to me too when they see me and lena just out doing normal shit walking around like lagoona playing Pokemon and fucking midnight yeah people driving by being like adam 22 what the fuck are you doing here yeah yeah no you want me me to present you a very uh i can shoot somebody why i got to do that why i need security for you oh you got the blicky on you watch out the blammy pack is nearby at all times my friend are you ready for a controversial question sure what do you think is the state of la music right now is it inspiring hmm or do you think it's kind of dry i'm gonna get i'm gonna get killed for this one that's interesting i mean i feel like there's always like some new talent coming out i feel like blast is uh about the blast off

potentially. You checked him out? We were talking about last week. It was like the one I said spelled with X, right? Yeah. I'm not too familiar with him, but I've heard good things. You would like it. I feel like he could go far.

I do feel like the last, like the shoreline Grito-Drako movement moment, that was exhilarating. Right. I don't know like, because we just don't have like a movement right now. Like odd future was a movement. Shorline and all that was a movement. Granted, it's smaller than odd future. But these, you know, there's like, do you feel something like this?

that in LA, I would love, like, if you just had a pack of young new kids who just, like, had some different little style and they just started blowing up all together, that's when you really start to see, like, the youth get kind of, like, mobilized and, like, really excited about some shit. I don't know that we really have that right now. Yeah, because I was thinking about it, like, my friend was, my friend who's a producer was like, oh, who should I work with that's hot in L.A. right now. I'm like, you know, I really like this guy, Money Signed Suede, and he's already working

with him, I guess. I was just seeing him on Rosecrans Vicks. He's sad. I like him a lot. Yeah, he was a cool voice. But then I started thinking about when we were all really excited about like Shoreline and, you know, all the names that you mentioned, 1-2J and AZ Track and all them. But then I feel like what happened is from that spawned another creature that rose from the ashes called Blueface.

And that just got too big that it kind of like blew it all up. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I feel like Blueface is definitely the most recent like real superstar to blow it. about LA for sure. Because people want to say that like LA music is too regional or like West Coast music in general and I'm like you know. There's some of that but I mean because especially Bay music they want to say that it's too regional and it's only going to only going to pop in the bay and it's not going to hit like nationwide and whatnot. But it's like you have to think about like Atlanta music has been nationwide worldwide worldwide forever. Very true. You know

so I wonder if I want it to become a place where. where L.A. hip hop is global. Yeah. No, I mean, definitely. Like, when you think about it, though, it's like I don't feel, like, there's a lot of pop and rappers, but it doesn't,

it feels like there's a lot of, like, good underground shit going on, like in Detroit. Like, there's a lot of different rappers out of Detroit right now who are killing it and who are doing millions of views on YouTube. Yeah, that's a new scene. But you haven't really seen, like, one of them just blow past everybody

and become the fucking superstar of that scene. probably partially because a lot of that stuff musically doesn't necessarily like lend itself to like huge huge hit records which I mean but I think like okay if you look at Sada Baby the whole lot of Choppish song and stuff is like a fucking viral meme type thing right now

I feel like he could kind of lead that charge but you know you do wonder like who could really be that because there's a lot of like you know damn see that's like L.A. Imagine if L.A. had a pop smoke right now. That's what I'm saying. You know, Pop Smoke was that for Brooklyn.

Like, there's all this drill shit going on, but no, here's the superstar that is going to take that sound and turn it into something that could all of a sudden be on the Travis Scott record and be on, like, just be taken to a completely different level, you know? Because our pop smoke was Blueface, but it was like, it was less musical. It was too, it was big because it was funny. It was personality driven more than musically driven, which is. I love Blueface. Yeah, no, and I think Blueface, like, I don't count Blueface out that he could. still have huge records and stuff. But, like, you know, as a personality, Blueface is bigger than Pop Smoke because Pop Smoke

wasn't as cartoonish and ridiculous and everything. But then as a musician, you know, we've seen, well, I mean, Blueface did have a lot of big records, you know, so I'm not going to, Pop Smoke had bigger records, so for sure. I don't know, Thottyana perhaps excluded. It was huge, but I think it was, I don't know, never mind. I was going to say that Pop Smoke had more people in the industry behind and pushing it, but no, so did Blueface. Right.

I saw people saying that mulatto was the first female rapper that Cole Bennett did a video with since Katie got bands, which caused me to go to YouTube and type in Katie Got Band's Lyrical Lemonade and watch a video from like fucking six years ago or some shit that he did

for her that has like 40,000 views or something. It was like kind of crazy to think that Lyrical Lemonade was small enough that they could have a video come out and get that few views. But it's actually not even true because Cardi B did videos with Cole Bennett too. But I guess that is kind of like a weird thing is that the lyrical lemonade world has not touched on too much of the upcoming female talent. Although I also want to be surprised if there's more.

I'm forgetting. No, because that's the thing that like me and my friends have talked about before the mulatto video like, oh, when are they going to work with a female artist? Because yes, the Cardi B video was a lyrical lemonade video, but it wasn't her song. She was a feature. This is true. Yeah. I wonder. Yeah.

Did you like that video? It was good, yeah. Did you like the song? I don't remember, but... I don't want to like the song. I like the video, but I like other songs off that tape a lot more. Yeah. I don't know.

Little Luzzi finally made his first fucking lyrical lemonade appearance too. I know, right? Is it the TECA one? Yeah. I didn't watch it. I watched it and it, like, as a song, I was like, I gotta listen to this more because I can't tell if it's like the kind of thing where like the melody just didn't really make sense to my brain or where maybe my brain

was sort of like lagging behind. And it didn't really sound that coherent to me when I listened to it, but I don't trust my first judgment. I feel you. Whose melody was it? Is it both of them were singing or? They were both going in, but Teca had the hook and shit. So you didn't like the hook? It just didn't really.

It didn't connect with me in the way that certain songs have, I guess. Yeah, because people were saying that that song had leaked, but it was only Uzi song on it. And then people really like that, and then they're trying to say that Teca ruined the song. Really? I haven't really paid that much attention to the- I don't pay attention to the- leaks at all. I don't give a fuck about them. But they did put out the LLTka album, right? Didn't he sell like 40K? Do you have a project before that that we have sales numbers for or is this his first

real project? I don't know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Vergo world. I think he's a Virgo. When I saw Luteca perform a Rolling Loud, I was very convinced that this was a very real thing, that he was not a flash in the pan. So I can't imagine that, you know, I just feel like album sales really seems like kind of like a silly metric for people to be so fucking concentrated on and like we care we care so much it's like the only thing we care about we're asking to be disappointed too because we all know that like little tech is relevance does not really like his album sales don't really tell us that much about his relevance but also it tells you something but also a lot of the album sales over the past couple years have been so inflated by the bundling

and the merch deals and everything that it's kind of like then when you're you see somebody like like okay even the six nine album like it didn't get the effect of the bundling and it didn't get effect of any playlisting and stuff and then he comes out and he does like 30k or 40k or whatever it was and people are laughing at him like that's that's incredibly terrible but the truth is is that once you remove all those other things it's actually not that dad and we probably might not ever see that many people doing 400 500k first week outside of obviously like the drakes and the whoever's just because it's like once you can't bundles. it just becomes a lot harder to do these like really large numbers that we've kind of gotten used to seeing.

So I don't know if this is a conversation that we've already had before, but so what is one stream worth? Like what is that? Like how many times does someone have to play a fucking song for it to be like this is one whatever unit sold? I mean people do the math. I've never been. Like I don't know it. So I'm like. I've never been a person who was like paying attention.

I find out what people's album sold when academics announces it on Instagram. Twitter realistically. This is a new idea I want to like, like introduce. Instead of albums sold, no one's buying fucking records. No one's buying shit. It should just be how many streams. No, but it is. Like a certain amount of streams consolidates and counts as one copy sold.

That's what I'm saying is that stupid. Like who is making that metric? It's like, what? You have to listen to a song 10,000 times for it to be one unit sold. Like that doesn't make any sense. I'd rather just know how many times it's streamed. Yeah. That matters more.

That would be like a- But then they're just going to be giving you bigger numbers. They're just going to be saying, oh, like the new Lil'Oo Uzi album streamed 200 million songs versus when they say the Lozzy Verts album sold 300,000 copies. That's like a consolidation of the album sales and the streams. Well, I think that they should make it more clear to the consumers what equals one album sold. And maybe I'll do that for you guys next week and I'll come back with that information. The question is like what do we have, what else do we have to judge an artist on in hip-hop

because everything is sort of all over the place to really give us an idea of like, who is in what bracket of putting shit out. Like I noticed like the young boy album, he's like one of the biggest rappers in the world. He's the 135k first week. I'm sure that that was adversely affected by like the bundling, new bundling rules and whatnot. But yeah.

I don't know. I just, I don't know. It's like a big part of me does not give two fucks about any of this. Like in terms of the album sales, it just seems like kind of a silly metric for so many people to be like hanging their hat on. And like you wonder to what extent the fan.

really care or that the fans have kind of been like brainwashed into thinking they should care about? Me personally, I don't give a fuck, but I think I've been a little bit brainwashed into caring about it so that I'm in the know of like, oh, this person is at a 300k racket, this one's at a 30 and like it's all fucking stupid. because in reality like these records sold like how much of that money are they is really going into their pockets maybe what we should be measuring and what bank account every rapper has to send me their bank account every month facts that too but what russ said is like you know are you able to sell out X amount of people out of show by yourself i think that's the metric of like how hot you really are but that's why i think it's so funny when you see like rappers who've never really been focused on merch and all of a sudden they're doing these big ass merch drops and it's like well yeah but it's because they fucking they're not touring there are a lot of rappers who when I think about the business that they have and I know how much their lifestyle costs and I know how many different expenses they have and it's like okay your music's not really streaming right now

you can't do shows where is the money coming from there is no justifiable way like you might have been making like many hundreds of thousands of dollars per month a couple years ago and now it's like there's nothing. And that just, there's certain people that I got my eye on and I don't want to fucking name them, but I'm just wondering like how long, how long until this sort of falls apart? And there's probably a lot of artists who are hurting right now and they don't want to admit it. Yeah. No, I was talking with some of my friends about just being an artist in general and how much money you can make. And like, it's just like, you know, because Bozzi does clothes, all the friends are like, have brands and whatnot. Like, you could be a pop-in,

brand with 16,000 followers. Oh yeah. You know? And you can make, if you are an artist with six, a rapper with 16K, you're laughed at. You're a fucking nobody. You know what I mean? And it's like, I don't know. Just like you, but people don't follow brands on Instagram, like the way that they follow,

you know, characters, personalities, rappers. Like I feel like. I think you follow your favorite brand to see when they're dropping. Some people do, but I've always been amazed at the extent to which some very popular. popular brands just don't really have that significant of social media followings. And then also I feel like in some way, if you're really like a fucking fashion brand, you almost don't want to have that because it's almost like easier to make stuff

that people are going to think is dope when you have like 20K versus when you have two million. Once your brand gets to that level of having like millions of followers, you got a store on Fairfax, you got fucking, you know, all these, you know, like brands just get too immersed in this whole like business thing. and then it's just really, really hard to make people think that their designs are interesting and cool. I think that that's a very interesting topic

that you brought up. Because when you're talking about brands with 2 million whatever followers and whatnot, that's when you're at obviously the upper echelon where you're kind of like making clothes for the general public at that point, you know? And so I think that's where brands need to decide like where exactly they want to be.

Do they want to be a Zumi's brand or do they still want to be cool and underground like FTP, you know? But you know what's weird is that there's a significant amount of brands that do sell to Zoomis and stuff. And I don't feel like they really get that much of a negative association from it because so many people have no idea what is being sold at Zumis. Because who the fuck goes to the mall? Who's paying attention to what's at Zumis or hot topic or whatever? Like fucking people just don't really know because at times we have sold on some shit stuff to Zumies.

I think it was Zunis. I don't fucking know. I wasn't really involved in it. it's like you you sell them that shit you get the check and then you know nobody ever mentions it to you like I swear in my fucking time selling on some shit stuff to zoomies we have had like a handful of people send me like a fucking shitty screenshot of it and it's kind of like you know like the stuff sells like it's not like they're trying to return it or like tell us that they don't want any more of it it's just kind of like it's it's a different world that is not maybe going to go to

social media to show you that stuff that's so weird because when brands talk about like, oh, I'm going to sell to Zumi's. They act like it's like the death of their brand, but you're right. I've never, I haven't been inside of Zumis and I don't know how long. And I don't know anyone that goes to Zumi's and tells me what brands are in there. Right. But it is weird, though, because I feel like, like, if they had FTP at Zumis, it's, I mean, I don't think it would last. I don't think it could last long and have FTP have the same brand image and reputation that they have right now.

It would be an explosion. VLON. VLone. It was in ZoMys. I can kind of see it. in Zumi's. Well, with them doing all the artist's merch collabs, I kind of agree with you that that

almost seems like it could. But now it would be like the V-Lone Zumi's drop. Yeah, it does not sound like a good future for V-L-L-W-L-W-E-L-L. You could just like low-key, like, I don't know what you guys said, just sell your shit into Zumi's or even make Zumi's branded

or like make stuff specifically for the stuff you're selling to Zunis. That's different from your regular. If Zomis was going to do a contract with V-Lone, to do a V-loan Zumi's drop, I guarantee you it would have to be in the contract that it needs to be promoted X amount of times on the V-Lon social media

because in that situation, it's super easy to just say like, okay, we did that. I'm not promoting it at all. Yeah. Because we never promoted that we were in Zumi's, and that's why nobody ever say anything about it. If we were telling all our fans,

go to Zumi's, cop our shit, it would have had a different effect because we would rather you go to the website and buy something, even though I don't think there's anything on the website right now. V-V-Lone Zumi's collab. I mean, when you see like H&M Mason Margella,

then anything's possible, right? Yeah, H&M Alexander Wang. Yeah. But Travis Scott McDonald's is like H&M, Alexander Wang. You know? It's not. It's not. It's not because it's the coolest person in the space

working with the lamest person in the space, but somehow because they are so big that, and them being able to make McDonald's a little bit cool or make H&M a destination where people want to go for some period of time. Somehow that is just the coolest thing for them, like that they were able to have that power over the shitty brand that nobody really loves that much. Look, this is what happened. H&M, I don't think it's the worst place to shop ever, okay?

And the reason why people wanted that collapse so bad is because it made it affordable for people that couldn't buy Alexander Wing. You know what I mean? and it's not equivalent to Travis Scott doing the McDonald's thing because McDonald's is a fucking burger restaurant. It's like the reason why it was so like groundbreaking for us as fans is because McDonald's is this huge, probably the biggest corporation in the world

and like teaming up with someone like Travis Scott who were like, I don't know, we've seen grow up into this mega superstar. So I think that's, I don't know. It showed kids like anything is possible literally. No, that is why it's a flex for Travis Scott is because it's like, look at this unbelievable thing that you could have never imagined happening. That's why people loved it. Yeah, yeah. That's why people love it.

But it's, it's him sort of like renting out his cool factor, but somehow in this bizarre hellscape that we call America, this is actually like good for his brand. He's just so cool that he made any, he can do anything and make it cool. I wonder if he, like they should have a, a Travis Scott ride at Disneyland. I'm trying to think of where he goes after McDonald's. I think, to be the biggest rapper in the world. It would make more sense to do it at Universal Studios. Right by my crib.

Yep. Because Disney's too Disney, you know what I mean? I drive past Universal Studios. Every time I leave here, going to my house and every single time, it weirds me out like, so strange that I look this close.

Damn, are they so close? Huh? Are they close? I think that the actual ride part is, but you can walk around the main, the city walk part. The, like, what is it called? fucking theme park is closed.

I think so. Damn. It's crazy. I'm not really a theme park guy that much. I love theme park so much. It's like my favorite thing ever. I don't really get into it. Universal Horror nights.

Oh, love it. Really? I hate the rides. I mean, I hate the lines. The lines. Yeah,

they're way too long. You ever get the like no line pass? No, but I got the, I pretended to sprain my ankle, so I have a wheelchair pass. Wow. It was household's idea.

You still have the wheelchair pass? Even though you supposedly sprained your ankle. No, it says like the date on it and you can't fucking bring it back unfortunately, but I would love to get the for lifer Wow, sometimes I feel like just go in there more just because it's kind of like nearby like maybe I like it's fun I like it's fun head down Ventura We're going over here um you got more topics what else we got? I mean I don't know I've tried my hardest guys There's not like not much going on I feel like well there's Kanye exposing on these contracts I'm not sure well you used to work a good music How do you feel about that? I don't know.

I also signed like this crazy NDA stuff where I think I'm not supposed to talk about it. So I don't know. If they have time to sue you, then I would be impressed. I hope they don't sue me. I don't think you've said anything, but. I don't think I'm saying shit. But what do I think about it? I mean, I saw your No Jumper News where Adam Killa was like, well, you were trying to sign me to 32K, da, da, da.

And I know that's an argument that people are trying to use against Kanye. Like you want to fight for, you know, your freedom now. but what about the like contracts you were trying to sign people under good music to? Yeah, have we heard designers thoughts on all this? Because I would love to see designers contracts. I read this whole advice article about Kanye's contracts that basically says that Kanye has like the most advantageous like in favor of the artist's contracts imaginable. Nobody like in the history of fucking recorded music has basically been able to negotiate terms like the way that he has.

Yeah, he has all the power in the world. Right. And it's like, yes, you were able to negotiate these terms because you're huge. But I don't know. I mean, it's just like, I don't know. I just really have like so little faith that any of this is going to transpire into any sort of meaningful change for the artists. I hope so. I'm going to feel positive.

I like that he, you know, everyone wants to say that this is a selfish thing because he's, you know, a narcissist and only things about himself. But, I mean, I do like that he's trying to bring, rally the artist together. He's even talking about like Taylor, I'm a, I'm a family, I've, Scooter Braun is my family friend. I'll try to get your masters back. Like, I think he's trying to do good. I loved that Boosey called Kanye out, said this is like you're obsessed with Drake. What the fuck is wrong with you bringing up Drake, et cetera? And then Drake liked the post.

I think he is obsessed with Drake. Drake handing out the like. You know he doesn't do that lightly. He definitely doesn't. He has to think of me for years. I don't think I ever got a like. Wow. You never got to.

champagne poppy like? I don't think I ever got a like. Damn. That might be wrong, but. That's fucked up. Somebody make an account, only follow champagne poppy, and then go through my entire timeline and tell me if you see any post that he's ever liked. I don't really think I was seen it.

What if he liked and commented on one time? But then, like, you missed it. And like, it was like a year ago and he was like, yo, I want an interview. I think they. And you missed that? I've always. Would you shoot yourself in the, in the penis? What, if he had commented it, I want an interview?

Yeah. Yeah, I would shoot myself in the penis. So I missed that. No, I mean, like, I feel like the best thing that Drake ever said to me was you'd be going crazy with that shit about, but full disclosure. Out of all the things that you do in life, you commented about your goddamn stupid stickball. It wasn't on the gram, though. It was like I posted a story of me doing a trick, and like you could hear like a Drake son playing in the background. So I tagged him and then shrunk it down.

So like nobody else could see it. Low key cloud chaser move. And then he was funny. Is that how I get tagged in things where I don't see my name? Yes. Wow. Okay. Definitely.

If you just tap around on the photo eventually you're going to tap on somebody's name. Because I'll forever be tagged in like some pictures, some girl or some shit. And then I fucking look at it and I tap it and there's 40 fucking accounts. It's like me and V-lone and fucking 5,000 other things. You know what pisses me off about people that do that too? Is that they'll do that and make my name so invisible that I can't see. But then I'll click on the thing to see like what it is. And then they post them that I saw their story.

I'm like, Can't believe that he saw my story. It's like, all right. that's cool I guess do you have any topics you want to talk about um I feel like at some point throughout this week there were probably topics that I was planning on bringing up but then you know I'm just in here free sound make sure to text us

how long have we been streaming for uh not two hours yet hour and a half right what what do you think about this that this dynamic between you and I without house phone here I feel like I'm less interrupted which is nice I feel like I'm able to like get my thoughts out with a little bit more time because I feel like one of house phones things and we could say this because he's presumably still in a fucking ketamine coma is that he kind of like likes to finish the sentence or like insert like what where he thinks the sentence is going to go before i finish it which as a person i want to feel comfortable

taking gaps in what i'm saying like i need to be able to like take a breath without somebody sort of like interjecting and now talking is good but i do feel like when we have two people like this it's easier for us to sort of like flesh out our ideas whereas that's why i've always been hesitant for us to bring in a fourth. Because I feel like once we had a fourth person to it, it's just insanity. It's just like really hard for... Yeah, it's like two people talking here, two people talking there, like across the table. And yeah, it gets crazy.

That doesn't really happen with us, but that's one thing that makes me like... No, like a separate thing that doesn't really happen with us, but it makes me like so angry that I could put my head through the fucking wall is when you're doing a podcast and you have like the conversation and then two other people just start, like, who have mics are having a separate conversation at the same time. And it's like, what are you thinking? Like, how could you think that it's okay to just continue having your own conversation when there's like a real conversation with the guests going on?

I've had that happen to me a few times. I feel like it was like, like, YGs and like homies or something, and you were probably too scared to tell them to shut the fuck up. But if it was like me in a house, when you'd be like, rah! YG has never been here for the way. Whatever. Someone scary with scary friends. No, I don't know.

You were like, excuse me, Mr. YG? No, because the scariest people are not the talkative ones. People who, you know, like normally the people that you're kind of like intimidated by are not like loose with their words. Exactly. You're right. Yeah. They're more careful and they're very like the silent, deadly killer. Yeah, I can't even remember the last time that happened, but it's definitely like, because that's why like on drink champs like, drink champs is fascinating to me because it's like it's like it sort of started out as this sprawling, ridiculous podcast with like 40 people like yelling and taking shots during it. And then like over time, I feel like they've sort of had to just like kind of rain it in over and over. And like, I mean, in the early days of No Jumper, that was like how we ever even ended up podcasting together is I was trying to figure out what the fuck I was doing podcast. So I would just let random people on the show and just like, oh, I was definitely a random. Yeah, here's this girl that I just met on Tinder two days ago and now she's sitting next to me on the podcast. We never even hooked up or anything. She's just here. And I was just like, oh, like I told this girl was going to hang out with her. I'm doing a podcast. She's going to sit there and we're just going to see what happens. And it was just like, I don't know that it ever really like worked out well.

I mean, I got YouTube where you're here now. Go watch the original Smoke Purp interview and listen to HESH screaming over everything I say. Like, I say coolest podcast in the world, and he just screams, Booleest podcast in the world! Like, it's so crazy. That was definitely a moment where I was like, I need more control over how this unfolds. I love Hesh. Hesh is the most talkative person I've ever been around in my entire life.

Hesh retweets and quote tweets people with, like, 50 followers, but who are like L.A., like real to the soil L.A. people. I feel like I see a lot of people on Twitter that I would probably never see if it wasn't for HESH interacting with them. And I see a lot of really, like, weird hood videos that I would probably never see otherwise. Yeah, following him on Twitter is definitely an excitement for my day. Yeah. He's in the streets.

So, yeah. I need people are in the streets because I kind of, you know, I'm not in the streets at all anymore. I'm at home. I never see. anyone that I don't like go out of my way to see like that's one thing that occurred to me when I was in laguna is like I'm like seeing all these like babies like parents with their kids and like various ages of kids and I'm just thinking like I never see people with their kids like I never get to see what parenting kind of like looks like in my day to day life but like seeing that and being like oh damn like that's a dad with his one year old that's a dad with his four year old like this is

I feel you very much this insane learning curve that I'm about to have to have to have to. to take on. And, you know, I wonder to what extent I'm just only going to be able to talk about the kid on the podcast, because I feel like it's going to be so interesting to me that I'm not going to be able to shut the fuck up about it. Yeah, you're going to talk about it all the time. But I'm okay. I like kids. Yeah. I just am never around kids, because I don't know anyone with kids, really, or like, see them often. So I don't, when I'm around kids, I don't know what to do. I just, I just talk to them like an adult. I'm like, what's your, do you like young be a young boy yeah i i wonder that so much like just everything about it and like i just yeah just like

that's where my mind is like constantly out lately it's just like what the fuck is this going to be like like what is my life going to be like how am i i have so many hobbies this the condama stuff the bmx stuff the poker stuff the fucking i don't know just like Pokemon go oh my god all these things and i just wonder which of these things needs to go on the shelf all of them for me to be able to focus on, you know, it really makes me feel like I'm going to have to do this audit on my whole existence and be like, okay, these are the things I still want to do. I have much less time now because I want to spend a lot of time with the kid. So these are the things that are kind of going to have to go on the shelf. Now, that being said, Pokemon Go will make an arrival in the child's life as soon as they are ready to meet Squirtle, to meet Charmander, to meet Bulbosaur, etc. Because I just really want my child to have a strong, strong relationship to the Pokemon franchise. It's very important to me. I love that. The fuck was I going to say. I don't know.

Oh, my God. Just on the tip of my tongue. Pause. Yeah, I don't know. The Pokemon thing, because I've seen it with Josh's kids. Oh, they're so cute. That's like a really cool thing that kind of brings their family together because it's like you can have the kids who appreciate Pokemon Go on the sense of like, oh, it's cute. It's funny.

It's a little character, whatever. Like his kid Henry, they take the fucking, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, Oh, we got him actually. We got him this encyclopedia of Pokemon. And his kid, the older one, Henry, who was like six, he memorized this fucking thing. Instantly. This happened so fast that he's telling me about the weights and the heights of all the Pokemon. He's naming things that I've, like, Pokemon I've never even heard of.

He's telling me everything about it. But then, like, the parents, you know, it is a fun game for adults as well. So that's something that, like, I remember there was like Pokemon Go, there was like an event over the course. course of a weekend. I forget exactly it's called GoFest or whatever and they had to do it. Normally like people have to travel to a location to do it but then it was just like done remotely because of COVID and they told me that it was like the most fun that the kids had ever had and it was just playing Pokemon go all weekend on their accounts in the house. I love that Pokemon the franchise is becoming like this generational thing because it really kind of a little bit died out after like when

I grew up it was like you know there was a huge Pokemon crazy when I was a kid the cards and the fucking TV show, the movie, the fucking the Game Boy game, but, like, you know, I'm glad that with the revival of, like, Pokemon Go and, um, Pokemon Shield and all this shit, Pokemon Evie, that it's like, really like this generational thing. What's that new RPG game coming out?

Like, is it a, no, it's not Pokemon, right? But there's like a Zelda type game. Yuri, do you know what I'm talking about? Because, you know, if they put out a new Zelda. Oh, yeah, it's going up. I'm sorry, I'm putting my fatherhood duties on the shelf for a while. I'm going to have to put a lot of time into that because Zelda for

the Switch, I mean, I don't know how much I talked about it on here, but there was like a good month and a half of my life where that was like pretty much all I was interested in doing. Dude, I got, I'm pretty much, I just got to Hell Mountain or Burning Mountain or whatever the fuck it's called. I just kept burning up and I don't want to collect

like the leaves or embers to like not be burned. And I just kept burned so fast. And like I don't want to cheat and go and look at the fucking walkthroughs. for what I'm supposed to do. So I want to like, but that's where I gave up. Doing all the shrines? Yeah. I would start to do the shrines.

Yeah. It would take me an hour and a half. Then at a certain point, I'm like, bro, I want to finish this game before I'm 76 years old. Maybe I'm just going to look up these shrines. And then I didn't really, like, I watched so many videos about how to get all the shrines and Breath of the Wild. And it was like all YouTube was recommending to me. And also I played the game like at least a year after it came out.

Yeah. Which it would be a lot of fun to play it like as it was. as everybody else was having these first experiences with it. But I got Final Fantasy 7 when that came out. And I think the problem was that I tried to play it on stream. And that's one thing that I've realized is that like when a game first comes out, you think like, oh, this is a good idea. I'm going to play this on stream.

And then you realize like, no, I suck at this. It's really embarrassing and frustrating to play this on stream. I feel like there's just some games where you cannot stream and be, I mean, maybe unless you're a fucking amazing streamer and you're able to, like, interact with your chat while being super absorbed in this. game but like I don't think that I'm cut out to be a gamer streamer because when I'm playing a game I'm in the fucking zone and I then I completely disregard my chat. I look at it fucking five minutes later is this streamer ever going to read the chat? I'm like oh fuck. I hear that.

No yeah. I don't like uh like I plan on continuing to stream poker but I've really kind of fallen back from it and at first it was because I was I really felt like I needed to learn more and study more and get better. I feel like I've covered a lot of that ground that I was not confident in, like just situations in poker. But then still, there's a part of me that doesn't want the viewers to really be able to see me going through these emotional fucking highs and lows. That's interesting, though, for viewers. Yeah, it is. But it's a long, strenuous process. Because a lot of times, like, if I play poker on a Sunday, I started about 8 in the morning and realistically, I'm probably going to get done around 8 p.m.

Spending that. Yeah, I know. But that's how tournaments are, is that a lot of these tournaments go for like 10 hours. So it's kind of like, but I don't, you know, I feel very indebted to the audience that if I'm going to keep playing,

I have to stay on and then continue to let them in on my experience with this. And it also is like, my audience is just not educated about poker and a very small percentage of my audience gives a fuck about this. And I see it in like everything. Like I've done videos that I thought

were going to be really big. It doesn't really happen. it's just, you know, it's, it's a foreign game to a lot of people because it's been illegal in America for like 10 years. Poker? Online poker. Oh. But now there's, I was like, how are you playing then?

Because there's this, there's new sites that operate pretty much just with Bitcoin. So it's kind of like the government can't do anything to stop them and they're located in Costa Rica and, you know. Interesting. Yeah, I was just about to ask like how many of your viewers on there even give a fuck about what you're doing on poker. Whereas just being like, yo, Adam lists my makes sense. Yeah, but that's actually kind of why I started playing poker was because I again was because I was like, you know what?

If I play online poker, I can play people's donations and be able to play poker, which I actually genuinely enjoy doing. And it's like if I have six tables of poker going, then that to me is like a good amount of stuff that I'm doing with that part of my mind. And then I can also play the songs during it. And it feels like a reasonable thing to all do it at all the same time. My problem is that once I start playing poker, if there's six tournaments I want to play, there's probably like six more. And then it's like really hard to play 12 at the same time and also play people's music. Whereas I could play 12 no problem on just my computer by myself.

I can't even comprehend that playing 12 different rounds of like the card game. I honestly think that if I were to learn poker now at this point in my life, it would be really hard for me to play that many tables. But because I learned it when I was like 19, that, and my brain was so soft enough that I was able to Yuri can you grab me a cigarette in one? Ew. What?

In here? Yeah. Since when are we smoking cigarettes? You know, this feels like the downtown store just ashing on the fucking table. No, I have a coffee cup for that

and an ashtray that I probably just use the coffee cup anyway. But there's something that has occurred in my brain where I now like to keep a pack of cigarettes around in the office for when I'm going to do interviews. And this is the reason why is because I smoked once,

or splice. So my body is like addicted to the tobacco to a certain extent. I only want one. Please don't give me two. God damn it. He gave me the whole pack. And a cool lighter. But okay,

if I can like smoke a cigarette before the interview, then you don't need to smoke weed. It gives me a big amount of like relief without the being high thing because I don't really like want to like even just hit the blunt a few times before I do an interview because then it's going to, I'm going to be kind of high. And a lot of times with the interviews, anxious before it like i you know there's like a part of me that really like cares so much about how the interview comes out that i don't want to be high because i start to like overthink shit

sounds like you have a uh nicotine addiction yeah definitely just a little bit that's like literally the case study of it like i need it so i could calm down and not be shaky but i don't really like worry about it because i never think about having a cigarette at home and i because you're at home you're smoking weed. Right. But even then, like we were on vacation in Laguna. It was like, I wouldn't smoke weed all day. And then I would roll a blunt once we got home after dinner or whatever, like 8, 9 p.m. And I smoke the blunt and then I go to bed. Because you're relaxing. Yeah. It's easy for me to not smoke weed when I'm relaxing. Yeah. I wonder if Blasey's going to smoke weed in Tulum. Did you smoke weed? I brought a weed pen because, uh, yeah, I feel like anywhere besides like Japan and Dubai,

I can like bring the weed pen and nobody cares. Yeah. But those are places where if you go there, Korea too. I went to Japan, I did not bring a fucking, even a weed pen. Yeah. I was too scared. Korea's like that too.

Is it really? Yeah. This Zippa fucking stinks like fucking whatever it is. Look at that Flint sitting there. Ooh. This is so weird seeing you smoke a cigarette. Podcast stuff. Joe Button smokes cigarettes,

but he has never smoked a cigarette on the podcast that I've seen. Oh yeah, he is a cigarette smoker. It's so funny that we always fucking talk about. We're such a little fan girl's boys. Because Housephone's not around to derail our JPP fandom. Do they have merch? Because I would buy something. We should.

I feel like the Joe Button podcast is, yeah, that's my favorite podcast. So it's like, it doesn't really seem weird to me to talk about it. Like I'm willing to sort of like, give him that title of like, and to be honest, this podcast is like modeled after the Joe Button podcast because I've always interviewed rappers. This was our attempt that like, okay, we're going to do something consistent. And it is nice. You know, it's nice to have that consistent stuff because otherwise, like, every interview I do could get a million views or it could get 20,000 views and that's fine. But it's nice to have consistent stuff. Exactly. Consistent fucking show with the same fucking people, the same time, the same day a week. Yeah. I'm going to mention this because we're super deep into this podcast,

so I don't feel like that many people will necessarily like see or care. But what are you talking about? Our watch time metric isn't all the way through. 100% the whole way through. No, but the fact that AD, we've been talking and he's down, we're going to give him a night. Ooh,

yeah, you told us about that. Like, this is Tuesday night. I think he might do Wednesday. And I just want to, like, you know,

kind of try to help, like, that would be such a cool thing if there was like a different thing going on every night on the No Jumber channel of like a different conversation, you know,

I think that would be cool. So with a key point to call him OD. with AD. He is OD. He is OD. He might OD on tequila this weekend. I hope not. Oh, God.

No, he's an OD on Jamaican weed. Yeah, I do. AD is a funny type of weed smoking to me because he will never, I don't think, I would guess that he's probably never bought weed, but he will smoke if there is weed. And he will be like, what the fuck if you don't pass him the blunt? Yeah. And we're always like, oh, shit, we forgot. Also, I do want to show AD's merch.

I'm not 100% sure where you can get it, but I know that he has been. selling it through his Instagram. So if you go to I-I-T-S-A-D, he is selling the shirt that I'm wearing right now with some sort of like baby crip on it. Is his show going to be like ours in a sense that's going to

be consistent co-host or he's going to bring on different friends and have different kind of conversations? We've been discussing him having a co-host of some sort. I think that I would like to see him sort of like interview people that like he thinks are relevant in like the

LA, street rap, et cetera, a world. And to see them actually, like, bring people on, I think would be interesting. But also it would be sick if they could do episodes just chat and like we do, too. But I think that, because that's really what we're trying to do with the Selena thing. Obviously, that kind of went left, but. Are you going to do the Monday thing, too? Or is that not confirmed? You don't want to talk about it.

I don't want to talk about that one just yet because I feel like the AD one is, like, kind of priority. I don't want to, like, fucking get people's hopes up or whatever. But I don't know. I think like for the fans, that would be cool if they could just kind of, can you imagine if every Monday through Friday, 6 p.m., there was always like a different live show to watch on here. I just feel like that. It would be a great way to sort of like encourage and like increase the amount of like, you know, just like give more people that we fuck with like a fucking platform. Yeah, it's like a TV network. And it's like when I saw Rolling Loud doing their weekly or week every day they're doing every day of the week they're doing a different show on Twitch. I'm like, no jumper should be doing that. What are the shows like on Twitch? They said like, okay, I don't know, obviously the dates and the times, but like one day they're doing in the studio and they have one of their producers and like different rappers come through and they do like a studio show. One day it's like a podcast with like all the heads of like Tariq and.

They should do that. That's smart. They're doing the podcast and then they're doing another day where they do like a competition for a rapper. Is it Terek and Matt or they're together on the podcast? Yeah, with two other people might be scheme. I'm not sure. Really? But yeah.

Scheme on it is a good idea. Yeah, you should check out the stuff. I was like, oh, that's very interesting. They announced it when they did their Rolling Loud virtual event. Really? That's dope. That was pretty interesting. Shout it to them for that.

That's a good idea. They should stick with that. Yeah. I don't really have a ton of interviews lined up for this week, so it's kind of unfortunate that one bailed. But I did interview the lady Robin Columbo from McMillions. You see McMillians? Yes, and the name sounds so familiar. I'm trying to remember who she is.

She had the red hair and she was sitting on the red couch. She was the most animated person probably on the entire thing. Besides that one FBI agent, God, he would be great to get on. Oh, my God, the fucking guy, yes. He's so, the one that wanted his whole life to be a fucking undercover spy. Yes, he was great. Robin, I don't. That guy.

Was she one of the winners? Sorry. She was the wife of the gangster. Oh, okay, okay. I remember. I remember. Because what was the, uh, John or no, there's two Jimmies or Johns or whatever the fuck it was, I forget.

But she was the one who was married to the gangster dude. So she had some stories to tell. Wow, that's interesting. But I think I mostly got the interview because her kid is a big fan of a jumper. That's how you get a lot of like the older interviews, huh? Yeah, shout out to Francesco, because he's the one who's sort of. Francesco. I now, after smoking a cigarette, I feel as disgusted as you probably felt in seeing me pull that out.

The smell is just, ugh. I feel like I'm in like an ashtray right now. We watched this movie, The Firm last night with Tom Cruise. Yep. Phenomenal movie. Loved it. So weird to see people smoking indoors in there.

I don't care. It's still, it's never going to stop fucking blowing my mind seeing people smoking like hospitals and shit. The hospitals is, actually no. When I was in China and my mom had like some kind of like allergic rash on her hand,

my friend who speaks Chinese, his Chinese he took us to a hospital so that he could translate for us. Pulled out his fucking cigarette started smoking and I'm like In the hospital? Yes. In like the waiting room thing

and I was like are you joking? That's unbelievable. Have you seen Milan? No, but I heard it's really good. The new one? It's really good. But then I also heard that people are mad at it. People are mad because they filmed part of it

in the place where they have the detention centers for the Uyghur Muslims, which is by the way, one of the greatest travesties that is currently going on a planet Earth. You should definitely educate yourself about it. It's a human rights crisis beyond anything that you could fucking imagine going on on earth right now.

But the, um, they thanked the local government who is in charge of these detention camps, basically. Yeah, that's crazy. And the, the Disney did not realize that that was in the credits and, uh, the outrage came out after and they weren't ready for it. So yeah. Yeah, that's what they're mad about. I didn't know that.

Yeah, I heard that they got some like historic facts wrong and that, that's what they're upset about. I heard, I read an article last night that said that, they actually submitted the film to the Chinese government before it came out to make some changes in it. And like the Chinese government did not want them to have the movie be based around any specific Chinese dynasty. And also there was a kiss scene that was removed because the Chinese audiences were not comfortable with it. That's crazy. Interesting.

That's insane. They had to get it cleared with the government beforehand. I don't know that they had to because that's very out of the ordinary to submit it to a government. But I guess like the Chinese government is so ruthless and oppressive. that they wanted their co-sign. I think that they had to do that because if not, they wouldn't allow it to play in China.

Yeah, I mean, China is so unbelievably particular about how things involved in their culture are presented and, like, the NBA thing that went down was like a huge example of that and they lost hundreds of millions of dollars by just one NBA team manager or whatever, dissing them. Insane.

But also insane, the cowardice involved in that. I feel like at some point in our lives, they're going to look at the way that all these American corporations just continue to engage in business with China. And it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's all trying to tell us that it's not, it's not, it. It's not, it's not going to be on the app store. Um, I saw this one YouTuber talk about how they, their phone got, was trying to be hacked from fucking, I don't know where in China. And they're like, oh my God, it's TikTok. So they deleted their, um, I don't know, they're like, oh my God, it's TikTok. So they deleted their, so they're TikTok. And so I got scared. I deleted my TikTok too. I never even use it. I look on the apps or just to see if I can download again, it's on there. It's still on there because it was about to the portion of the TikTok's data on American citizens was supposed to begin to be handled by an American corporation or

whatever. But then that was basically shut down like I guess TikTok's or the Chinese government was not okay with the terms that were laid out. We were for a, a period of time paying like a significant amount of money to a firm that was basically taking all of our nojumber content and sort of transforming it into TikTok friendly content and we just made the decision that we're just not going to continue to pay for it. We had like 140k on TikTok part a big part of why we stopped that was because we got our account verified. We immediately completely ceased growing and we have not had one viral video. We had a couple of videos it hit like a couple million and then all of a sudden we got verified and just completely stopped

growing so if anyone has any advice about that we would love to know how to handle that you would think that if you got verified you would grow in viewership yeah that's what we were sold on the idea that we're going to get verified and then the stuff would go more viral I don't know I don't know there's just like I just see the weirdest stuff from TikTok get posted onto Twitter and I'm just like oh my god I don't know you see that the thing now is that people are mad because because it's a TikTok trend to dress up like a ghost, like to just take like a white bed sheet, put it on yourself. And then I think you wear sunglasses or some shit.

And people are like trying to relate that to like a KKK thing. Oh my God. It's like, bro, people are dressing like a ghost for a long time. If they're mad about that, they should be mad about the weird ass POV videos that they like to make. It's like POV. I mean, I kind of talked about on here before, but like POV of my, um, of your, uh, psychotic boyfriend. that just raped you or something like that.

It's like, I don't, they have these weird ass like POV videos of like, oh, like your teacher trying to seduce you or like just weird ass not okay shit. I can say that I looked at TikTok semi-consistently for maybe like a week and then at a certain point I just totally lost interest. For me, I don't know. I don't really like feel like I need more apps. That's how I feel. Just show me random people dancing.

I don't think I need it. Yeah, I don't think I can incorporate one more app in my life that I have to like update and care about and care about other people on there. This is why we're old now. I feel it. I feel it. Can you believe that that kids growing up now have never experienced life without social media and the internet? Like it's still so mind blowing to me. Because I talk to kids that are like maybe 10 years younger than me or something and like they're YouTubers now or whatever.

I'm like I can't even like, I don't know. Like you never, like, run around outside. I know, like, my childhood socializing when I think about what I did after school when I was in elementary school was, like, I would go outside and hang out with the kids on the block. Same. We would all ride bikes. Everyone is like your mom, your dad, your sister, you're this. And, like, we all, like, collect rocks. You'd go to the woods, look under some rocks, you know, sort of, like, hang out.

Like, maybe, like, find, like, some beer bottles. You smash them on a rock. Right. Or, like, light things on fire. You know, we play football. I don't remember. remember ever really like learning how to play football but I would just sort of like fall in line like play basketball in some random kids yard because he had a hoop I but and it's crazy because

when I think about my kid like the idea of them just like walking out the door of our house and just going down the block there's no other kids outside playing on the block like the fuck of these kids going to go play with it just seems kind of bizarre that stopped when I was in like high school I feel like they're stopping kids outside my kid is going to have so many goddamn extracurricular activities that's like when I was growing up. I had like ballet, violin, piano, tap dance. And, oh, God, it was too great. I just feel like filling your kids' life with, like, stuff that's going to teach them skills or, like, familiarize them with things that they might, that will make them better people

and they might eventually be able to, like, you know, use in some way is, like, incredibly important. Yeah. I mean, I think it's good because when you're a kid, you could pick up on things so fast, and there are some kids that are, like, tennis fucking legends. And, like, you have to try to put them in all these different types of extracurricular, to see what they're good and what they like and what they want to, you know, pursue. Definitely. I just like my parents, I feel like they had me playing basketball and baseball and, like,

were not able to conceive of the fact that I was more interested in video games and drawing and writing and, like, more insular pursuits. Like, that didn't really make sense to them. They thought that I had to be able to play sports in order to fucking become a normal person. And when I think about that with my kid, like, if my kid, showed some like very strong uh instincts towards video games and they just wanted they you know but I think ultimately it's like you just want your kid to have like a balanced life you can't be like oh you like video games okay cool just play played Fortnite eight hours a day right it's like you need

to have some structure because I myself know I have an obsessive personality and it's like if I'm gonna be doing something a lot of times it will quickly turn into me doing that for an extreme amount of time per day yeah I've seen you get into things in the It consumes your entire fucking life. Yes. It's crazy. I had a year of Tetris 99, which I don't regret. Because I felt like I learned so much about Tetris.

And I thought it was kind of worthwhile. I got nothing out of it. You got a good time. It just quickly went from being like, you know, something that I was like learning about to just like habitual behavior. I get home and I just immediately just start firing out rounds of Tetris. You're one of those people. I was watching this weird ass.

documentary about kids that are like really good at a rubik's cube and the mega autistic kid is like the greatest of all time yes and he like can't have a fucking conversation with you for two seconds without it becoming immensely clear like yeah like yo he he finishes that was one thing he finishes doing the rubik's cube and he immediately just starts cranking the rubus cube again I feel like you're that but like a less like not as extreme on that scale yeah you're on that scale but I feel like I feel like um i don't know i i've always wanted to i i don't think that that's a bad thing having like an obsessive personality because then you're really driven towards having like this one goal but i think but then when you when you put it on like a tetris 99 it's like what are you doing

for your life exactly what is what is the future for you playing tetras 99 or like what like i just think balance is incredibly important and like for me with my obsessive personality feel kind of lucky that i was like forced to be able to moderate that because of it wouldn't have done it on its own. Do you think that if your parents let you pursue art, you would be a tattoo artist now? I mean, there's a lot,

there's so many directions and ways that I could have seen my life going because when, like around like the age of 13 or 14, I was so obsessed with the internet and like, you know, being in all these chat rooms and I was starting to play games on the internet and stuff. And then I got in trouble because I was fucking,

I went in a Hanson chat room and was talking shit to the Hanson fans and my parents got rid of fucking, the AOL. So then I was like forced to all of a sudden I was out riding bikes and like actually having a social life. I'm trying to think about it. I feel like I would have became a hacker and probably like went to prison for some period of time. I could see you being a hacker. Oh yeah.

I think that that was the direction. I was kind of going before my parents got rid of the internet for a couple of years. And then I had to like actually go outside and like develop social skills. Dude, you so would have been involved in the fucking Elon Musk and Kanye West and all that like send this Bitcoin to this address. You would have been part of that. Yeah, I mean, if you're the hacker who does that, you're kind of like the goat because you, like, compromise some of the most powerful accounts. That would have been cool. Insane.

I think we do what we had to do here today. I had to pee so bad for the past hour, but I felt like since there's only you and me, I'm like, fuck, I can't leave. I'm going to let you go pee first because you always complain about me leaving the pee in the toilet. Yes, and there's always little droplets on the fucking thingy, the seat. That was Yuri. Whoever's yellow, fucking green piss it is. Okay. I don't drink green and I don't pee green.

So I don't know about that. Do you know that lien is $400 in line now? Yeah, I haven't hearing about that a lot. It's crazy, right? Plot them off the market with that stuff. God, that's insane. I've never done drugs. Shout out to all the lean heads.

Shout out to Ice Web Vezzo, the drank God.