No Jumper - The No Jumper Show Ep. 73 w/ Special Guest Chuck Inglish

Episode Date: December 16, 2020

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I like this. Where's the level's at? It's real boothy. I've never heard that used before. Oh, yeah. This is, oh, yeah. You're enjoying yourself? I kind of like the headphones now.

I never did this. That's hard. Anyway, I just want to throw this out there before we get into things. Josh just did this. We got Chuck English for us. So it's pretty legendary. Yeah, man.

Adam had been telling me he'd be wanting to fuck with you for a while. I was like, Chuck is dope. I said, I think he fucks with me. We follow each other on Twitter and shit. We follow each other. And then I ain't ran in there. ran into you so I never knew that but everybody would be like oh yeah

you look like AD people say that to you yeah when it was just beard and I had as soon as he walked in I said you look like BH like I literally thought it was BH walking in for a second Nip homie yeah oh yeah boss hog shout out boss hogg good guy but I thought it was and then he goes everybody fucking says that to me but then he just

say AD I mean you guys don't really no in the no it's the beard man people like we're the same skin tone with a beard and then if you take everybody's facial recognition, like mishaps, because people always say somebody look like a motherfucker they don't look like. But I've seen it because we're the same tone

and we got beards and not too many niggas see like that. It's kind of crazy how you could have two. You would think that you would be more of us, but it's really not, bro. You could have two people who are so similar face-wise, but then are completely different height or fat, whatever, but a lot of times that doesn't come through on the internet.

So that's why when people, you meet someone in real life, you always be like, I never knew this guy was going to be so short or tall, you know? I get that a lot. Nobody thinks you're going to be six three. I didn't think you was six three. I thought you was probably going to be my height. I think me and you will have like the same NBA 2K face game.

That's the best way I ever heard. That's what I was trying to say. That was what I was trying to reiterate. If AD robs the bank, they might come for you with the facial recognition. It wasn't me. He was shook. The height difference is all I got. That'll do a lot.

No, we were just talking about how back in the day, one of the last times that I potted with Chuck was when I had A-track on the podcast and he had this fucking juicer. What was it called the juicerro? Jucero. And if people out there Google it, basically like it was this weird product that had got so much money invested into it. And it was basically just this like juicer with these bags of fucking juice.

and you would put the bag into the juicer and it would squeeze the bag and then you would have a cup of juice and A-track was like convinced that this was the greatest fucking way to get a fresh glass of juice and they had all these millions of dollars dumped into it by investment firms and shit and then one day everybody just sort of woke up and realized like this is fucking stupid. No, somebody exposed it and said that they wasn't sourcing the fruit. A-track had told me he sent me this article where somebody exposed it. I was just saying it was like having a water bottle company but you

you filling up the water in your sink. Right. So it was like nothing. There was nothing special about it, except that it had a tighter grip than you, and it just smashing a bag. So motherfuckers really just got over. High key. Wasn't clothing free.

Have you ever gone through a juicing phase where you get the juicer and you're just putting apples and shit into it? It's fun. Pure celery. That's what you do? Yeah. I haven't done in a while, but the last couple of months I was doing that just like pure celery juice and ginger too.

Right. Like real ginger shots? Oh, them motherfuckers ain't a joke. Yeah. Cellary juice is good for your skin. You think ginger really does anything that good for you? You think it just tastes bad so it feels like it's doing something for you? I mean, the way it tastes and the way it feels in your stomach, hopefully is cleaning you out.

You think? I think so. Ginger is like when I eat pickled ginger at the sushi spot, you can notice that you're not as full and stuffed afterwards. It's definitely good for the microbes in the stomach. That's interesting. I'll do kombucha for that. But we still don't know shit. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I'll be doing stuff and I'm just like, all right, I'm going to volunteer to do what everybody else is doing. Right. We cleansing. This is what you're supposed to do in a cleanse. All right, bet. What about the COVID vaccine? You're going to get that? Here we go.

It's a good way to start this month ago. At this point, at this point. I wanted to talk about juice. I say this. And this is said with just like, nah. But when I was in elementary school and middle school and shit, like I took like three vaccines. Yeah, that's probably why we're all alive right now. For shit, for shit.

Yeah, for shit that wasn't happening in nobody. I didn't know no. kid with no measles. But that's probably why, but that's like, you know what I'm saying? This is why it's so hard for people to buy into vaccines is because we don't see measles. I definitely had chicken pox.

It's not a problem because of the vaccine, but it's invisible to us because of the vaccine. I don't have a problem with the vaccine. I have a problem with how fast they made this vaccine. And it's like five people making it. Yeah. New ones, new versions of the shit. It's like, come on. Like, it's been, what, six, seven months in production.

It's like, we're just going to. to trust to put that into our bodies right now? I understand being scared of it, but at the same time, I tend to sort of go to the experts and, like, the medical community seems like overjoyed that this vaccine is around. And granted, they could all be wrong and it could all make us grow horns and fucking drinking our own piss and shit. But I don't know. I tend to just sort of, like, air with the medical community in this regard.

And also, the main thing, and I keep coming back to this is, like, we're really going to test people's resolve about not buying into the vaccine once it's like, oh, you can't go to a short. strip club unless you have a vaccine you can't go to rolling loud you can't go to the movies whatever you're in there as soon as they tell you you can't go to rolling loud um this is the thing you've seen they said 15% of all black people say they uh they want to get it so it's like minority communities man i don't see people really wanted to get this i can see essential workers getting it they need to start advocating for it like crazy i personally nominate little baby

and Megda Stalingham. They need to do like commercial spots for the vaccine and it needs to be on every TV channel. It needs to be on billboards. Did you see how they walk the vaccines into the NBA stadiums today? No. No.

They had one of the doctors is walking it and they're playing the da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. They're playing like the coming to the court music. Like it was one of the athletes walking into the locker room. I thought of that. Yeah, but see the whole thing of all of this shit is,

and I say like, as accepting and cynical as I can be, and I don't take nothing too serious, but I also do take shit serious. They leave too much, it's too much speculation that can be added to everything, like whether this disease is real. All right, but I don't know, I don't know,

because if I'm looking at it, it looks like everybody that I know is testing positive, but just nothing's happened to me. But on the other side of it, I had three uncles or the family members that passed away. Already three? Yeah, through the year. Holy shit.

I have buddies, parents, friends. It's as real as fuck. But at the same time, Bernie Mac died of pneumonia. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've had family members that have died of, not family members, but family member associates that, you know, they had a crazy-ass respiratory infection

and died from it. Like, you're giving people that always got something to say all of these outlets, like, all right, well, what happened to the flu? Nicky like me is like, yeah, dog, what the fuck? fuck did happen to the flu and then what did happen to fevers but the flu and then what did happen to all the other shit never really that much of a deadly phenomenon no i'm not saying no one has gotten sick of anything else but covid since like july everything can we get a fact check i don't know yeah no i'm talking about like when somebody i know is like they don't feel well they go to the doctor and the doctor says

they got covid uh not like you just sick and go home and take some i'm pretty sure some people are getting sick They just told you because I hit them up and I told them I said, I think I got COVID and I went to go get a test and they said I didn't have a test. They said it's like you got like a bug or a flu or something like that. And nobody has subjected themselves to more risk of getting COVID than him. Nope. He has not changed anything. He's been fucking letting strangers spit in his mouth. They test positive.

They spit in his mouth. It's a whole disturbed thing. He's got going. No, but one conversation that we had last week is I said to Josh, I said, I guess the bright side is if we all get the vaccine, but Housephone and AD don't, they can only really kill each other, which I mean, I don't want you guys to kill each other, but at least I'll be spared. Are you just immune? I think it's as much as tequila drink.

Man, sometimes you could put enough poisoning yourself to be a defense mechanism instead of the deterrent. Is tequila actually poison, though? Nah. It makes me feel good. We're slowly introducing the intervention that we're trying to have with AD to. convince him that maybe you should scale it back a bit. I mean, you had this devastating. No, what was it?

You told us Thursday. No, Friday morning you told us that you were basically done drinking because you would, whatever. I said, I'm going to take a couple days off in which I did. And then Sunday, you got so drunk that you were actually hung over in bed all day, Monday, puking. Yeah. Being hungover when you're grown. That shit sucks, bro. Yeah, I'm 37.

I'm 36. I don't. I never get headaches from my. drinking so I know I over did it but yesterday I had like I mean Monday I had the fucking was yesterday Monday I don't even know it's good today yesterday I had head was pounding and when I came in here I was like let me get through the news real quick so I can get the fuck out of here and when I was driving I was just like man just go home and when I got home I was just throwing up and I slept on a couch almost all day oh man we've all

gotten to that point as a grown man though where it really starts hitting like I remember When I stopped getting fucked up was basically when it got to the point where I would get fucked up on a Friday and then I'd be in bed all day Saturday more or less and then Sunday I would still not feel very good and would still be hurting. I was just like, I can't.

This is not worth it to me at this point anymore. Yeah, and then that achiness, like, I'll get that. You know what I mean? You didn't sleep right. And you just feel like, damn, I really threw a whole 24 hours away, but I'll do that shit again. I started to get addicted to the $300

fucking nurse who comes to your house with the fluid that they put the idea. Are you in your arm? What if that had the vaccine in it? I wish. Once we started getting going with that, though, that was like $300 extra added on to it because it kind of would like fix you up a lot.

Does that shit work? Oh my God, it was amazing. And I told him I had the fucking, they was going to give it to me once a week for free. Yeah. And I didn't like needles. I get a million tattoos, but I just don't like shots like that.

Yeah. No, yeah, shots suck, bro. Hey, because not that bad, though. If you get the one up here, because I've had a, I had a crazy-ass surgery. I broke my ankle in college, and it was like, I broke my shit off my foot down there.

Really? You got the clip? Play the footage. No, I wish I did. I'm looking for the footage right now. There is footage. My buddy was with me when I was on my skateboard, and I fell off that bitch,

and I had to take my foot and put it back onto my leg. And then I had to sit on a skateboard and just do this all the way back to the crib. Right. But the night that I did that, I went to the hospital and they asked me, did I want a shot or IV for the pain? I had just seen someone get a shot where the needle was this long for something that they had to do that was going to stop the... Is that your phone? Let me turn it off.

I might be mine. Calendors, I know that sound. That's the calendar noise? I think so. Oh, really? Yeah, some alerts. I'm a calendar guy. Let's sync our calendar so we all know what each other's doing.

No. Okay. Yeah, but I saw the needle go real slow. It was like from this far out, and it went in, and I just seen the dude's face, and I was like, yeah, no. But me turning that down was actually the worst shit I ever did because the doctor didn't give me no pain assistance and broke my ankle back in place while setting the cast.

That's when I knew I was like, bro, you really ain't no hoe. Like, I used to wonder what situation I would get put in where I'd be like, no, I'm going to be a bitch today. Right. That was probably the worst feeling, That's like somebody breaking your arm off in place or, but breaking it into a cast and then forming the shit. So the cast stuck.

And I was like, that's how I know I don't like needles. Isn't it crazy to think a lot of people will go through their whole life without getting a fucking devastating injury? Like, have you ever broken a bone or like really fucked yourself up? Yes, I broke, I broke this,

and it's still not straight to this day. You can see, I broke this arm and I fractured at the same time. How? Stupid as fuck. I was, my dad was watching me. I was about, I want to say 11. and we had a swing set in the backyard

and my dad was supposed to be watching me and I was just, you know, I would usually like just keep going higher and do like try to do backflips and front flips off of this shit and I was going so high and my dad seen me he was like, stop going so high and I'm like, fuck you, I'm just going like this you know, I'll just keep going back and forth.

It sounds like the way you live your life now too, but yeah. So I got so high that I was above my fucking house and I fucking flew off Oh no, bro. I flew off the goddamn swing and literally I'm coming down and I don't know how it happened. I'm coming down and I fucking fall under a barbecue pit and my fucking arm go snap, snap. Yep. And my dad.

Under a barbecue pit. Under a barbecue kid. You was really in those trenches. And the fuck the part about it is, is that my dad didn't take me to the hospital. He made me a sling and I went to go lay down. And when I woke up, the neighbors was like, yeah, he got a high fever. he needs to go to the hospital. He made you a swing.

Your dad was a wild man. The more I know about him, the more this kind of makes sense. Yeah, but he, I mean... Did you end up going to the hospital? Yeah, I had to go to hospital. They took me to the orthopedic hospital, and I had to get a... I had to get shots in my arm,

and I had to have a cast for like a year and shit. Yeah, that shit ain't fun, man. It's not fun. Dude, yeah, I was... It's just bad, too. The worst one was when I broke my collarbone on a mountain bike, and I was in eighth grade, and they couldn't do surgery until the next morning,

so I had to sleep with my fucking arm, I would keep falling asleep and then my arm would like fall down and the collarbone would like tear apart because it was completely broken and they had to put fucking all kinds of metal screws and shit in my shoulder. Jesus Christ. Yeah, no, listen, you see how we sharing these stories?

Yeah, sharing these stories is crazy because now that I'm grown, I just, I literally am like, I can see why you did that because you ain't never broke nothing before and you see people do shit that it's like, bro, relax. Right.

You know what I'm saying? You ain't been there before. And then it's not just an injury. It's like if you get the injury, then you got to get surgery, then you got to get that recovery and rehab. That'll scare you into being very careful about what you do with yourself. Man, real quick. Because having to go to rehab because your shit won't work if you don't,

and you got to do that for three months is not fresh, bro. I got a lot of homies like they get shot and they have to go to rehab and stuff. So, yeah, we ain't worry about no broken bones like that. AD has seen a lot of death and trauma. That's one thing we've heard a lot about them. Look, I got buddies that been shot. It's you in the same way. hospital with the same rehab person.

It sucks. Like when I got, I have six, I had six screws in my ankle. So I know I ain't never been shot, but I definitely could tell you what something going through your bone forcefully feels like, especially when, when the morphine wore off because they gave me a trigger after surgery. At first, I ain't know what the fuck the trigger was doing. You know what I'm saying? I was just hitting that bitch and the lady would say, hey, you know what I'm

saying you can only hit it twice every 30 minutes. Right. As soon as... Because it limits itself, right? No, because once it goes away, you understand what the fuck is going on. Now you're like, oh, turn this motherfucker back on. I don't want to feel this. Right.

I never... One of the strongest memories I ever got in my life is my mother driving me from surgery back to the house and we stopped at Walgreens to pick up my prescription. And that's when the pain medicine wore off. And like, I honestly don't think a 12-gauge... would hurt more to the side of the leg. But when you're in that environment as a kid and you don't really understand

like what you're doing to yourself by pumping yourself full of fucking pain medication because I remember it as a kid and like having that realization like, oh, this is amazing. I'm going to keep tapping this button. But it's not like if I were to pop up Herkissus, like I know there's going to be a feeling after that

of not feeling so great. Like yeah, you feel good and then you feel bad and you get used to that. When you're in the hospital, nobody tells you as a kid. Like you just pump 20 shots of volume into yourself. And then as soon as they unplug you and you get in the car, you're going to understand why you ain't never want to leave. You'll want to walk back in the hospital.

Like, yeah, just suit me back up. That's how I felt about the dentist. I was afraid the dentist for so long. Oh, man. And for a nigga who got fake teeth now. But before, I was so afraid of the dentist. I was so afraid to get shots in my mouth and all that until I had a fucking infection that would not go away. And that was the worst pain to the day.

I felt in my eyes, I knew it was bad. I had a fucking, and one of my wisdom teeth, I hadn't had three of them taken out already. One of my wisdom teeth had cracked open, and I had this cracked open wisdom tube for like a year or two years. And within every three or four months, it would get like kind of like an infection, and I would use, what's that shit?

Amoxicillin. I would get an moxicillin. It's like penicillin. I would get amoxicillin, and I would get like a, I would swig peroxide. And it would like cure it for like, couple of months and shit and then one time that motherfucker the moxas

ceiling stopped working the peroxide stopped working oh my god I was in the wrong neighborhood don't play with your teeth man this is how I knew I was fucked up I was in the wrong neighborhood you feel me getting getting some food and but the wrong neighborhood like you went to the food was so good that you went to an area of people you had beef with just to get some Kung Pal something like that because I'm with my grandma you know I mean I got my hood on I'm in the car like you know know what I mean? I can't tell my grandma like I can't be over here or anything like that. So I got to put my hood on, but I knew that I was so fucked up because of my tooth.

It just like felt like a shot. It just hit me out of nowhere. And I'm like, Granny, I can't sit in the car no more. And she's like, what? And I just opened the door. I put my hood on and I run through the enemy's hood and I'm running home. And the only reason I'm running is because I'm trying to take my mind off of the pain going in my mouth. And it was a Saturday. And my mom was like, unless you want to go to emergency dental, gonna be very, very expensive, some money I didn't have. You're gonna have to wait for the next day. And it went away for a little bit.

And that night, like three in the morning, like a shot again. I get up. I'm just socking walls now, waking up everybody in the house because that's how painful it was. The next motherfucking day I go there, I say, take this motherfucker out of my mouth.

I don't care what the fuck y'all got to do. And they gave me like three, four shots. They took that motherfucker out. And I said, I'm never playing with my teeth again. No, yeah, toothache can make you do some shit. If I have a toothache like that right now, though, I would find a way. I would find somebody who had some, like,

serious fucking painkillers. But nothing worked. It's like my body got so used to of healing it so much. Mind you, this is cracked open. You take some oxycon? I think it'll work. Well, I should have had. You should have gone to find a bum.

They got some new futuristic shit at the dentist office, though, because I had to get a tooth pool like 10 years ago. Not on the same lines of wisdom tubes, but I had a feeling that kind of came out. and I had to expose nerve so they had to take the tooth out.

I get in there and it's a root canal. I'm sitting with the dentist. I'm like, you ain't got to put me to sleep and nothing like that. He's like, no, I'm going to just shoot you with this two times. And it was like, I didn't even feel the numbness kick in until I realized that the tooth was out.

And he was done. And I was like, what the fuck was that? He was like, oh yeah, we got new toys now. And I was like, all right, well, I still don't want to see you no more, but bet. Because I was in her thinking I was about to do time. And I was really prepared. Like, man, I ain't never had a Rookinnell before.

Like, I ain't trying to cry. You know what I'm saying? Because I didn't seen my mother than had two things done. I didn't see friends get two things done. And I'm just like, bro, that shit is straight to your brain. And that pain that it sends up, this is crippling. That ain't worth it. Kids, take care of your teeth.

Take care of your teeth. I had a Rooka, too. You know who's one guy that I'm kind of shocked. Hasn't been shot yet? What? Is. Okay. So I'm watching.

I realize that's a weird way to start a conversation. I was switched up. No, because the way that we got into the dentist conversation, at one point we were talking about, oh, I had friends who got shot, and I was just, I wanted to bring up this guy. I know, really, really weird transition, but we did say it like 10 minutes ago. Okay, I'm watching the 6-9 documentary on Hulu. I guess you could say that he's someone who deserves to get shot. But I'm watching this because they use my interview footage of me in it, right?

So I'm watching it. There's the guy who's basically he was just like a historical. Hispanic fool who was driving the he was his driver he became six times driver at one point and then the feds want to infiltrate the nine trade bloods so they find the driver and they say oh we're going to get you for i forget exactly what it was that made him decide to be a informant child shit right i think so but i think they also didn't mention that in the documentary because that's what i remember it being was that he was wanted for getting a underage girl pregnant or some shit but i mean allegedly i don't actually know if that's facts. But either way, that dude was the informant for the Fed. So he's the reason why,

like, and I mean, we don't have to get all into the case and everything, but he's the reason why when they kidnapped him, there was video footage and audio of it and everything because they had all the shit in the car recording everything. That guy goes and he snitches and he's obviously like a huge part of why the case was put together against the nine trays or whatever. He still lives in that neighborhood and said that a couple of times, or at least once he said, he's picked up guys who are in the gang and as a driver, Uber driver, whatever, giving them a ride. And they even said, like, that's you, huh?

Like, you're the fool who fucking snitch on us, whatever. And they just didn't, they haven't felt the need to do anything, which is not really how you see it in the movies. Normally, that guy has to go, right? This is not the mafia. All right? You don't shoot cops.

That's the thing. Like, I know, it's a nigga that's out there right now that it took the stand against me. I would never touch him or do anything to him because once you work with the boys, my nigger, it's like, nigga, it's like killing a cop or something happens.

You're the first person that they're going to come to. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you stay away from that. Like, I was literally just watching the Sopranos over and it's like, no, Tony's going to hunt him down. Because in the Sopranos, if you snitch, it doesn't matter, you are done. They're killing you one way or another.

Yeah. But that's how I knew when I was like, I had a tweet from like two or, years ago that somebody brought up like Chuck Chuck New. But when I was in Chicago, I remember being there and there was all of this shit on my timeline about 6'9

and pulled up to O Block or 69 is here 6 9 is there. And I just started doing the addition like Hey G, I you know what I'm saying? I grew up a certain way but the people that I grew up around, you know, they got different life choices. So I've seen shit regardless of which direction

I went, I'm very well aware of how shit goes. you know what I'm saying in the street and I was like this sound like some cop shit like when I was in college like the cops would start gang fights in Chicago so I stayed in the Latin King neighborhood and I knew that I read a newspaper like damn why shit's so hot right now and then this would be the incident I'd be like I thinkers wouldn't really do that so what what the fuck was that and then it always comes down that it's an informant or some sort of undercover and when you got gang unit

undercovers, they don't give a fuck. Do you remember the hip hop police when they were sending everybody? All right, why haven't you heard from them since? Because they figured out another tactic, which is, let's just make rappers. You know what I'm saying? Everybody be falling for the shit.

So you're hitting us with the 6-9 was always meant to be in the form? I seen it when he came. The protection that he had from Rahm Emanuel in Chicago, why? What the fuck for? Are you talking about when he pulled up to O'block? When he pulled up wherever he went,

I actually saw the car he was in and the people he was around when he did shit. But he hired cops then at that time for sure, even when he was walking up and down Melrose. I mean, that's how crazy his shit went is that I remember seeing him on Melrose doing that interview with him and then like seeing him one other time after that with a couple people chilling. If you could see the detail of the security that he had when he was in Chicago, you know cops when you see cops. It's certain gear. It's certain shirt. It's only shit.

If you go, if you buy guns, if you're in the guns, you know when you're going to the gun store, it's a section that you can't even touch because that's directly for police. That's true. You get what I'm saying? So you start spotting the shit that only police get. They have a special section in the gun store for guns? Like in a tactical spot when I go to the tactical store or if I go to the tactical store or if I go to the gun shop and I'm looking for new shit, I'll see something and I'll be like,

damn, that's shit hard. And they be like, no, that's police edition only. Really? So they got police edition glocks. They got shit that even if you had, you're going to jail just because you're not allowed to have that. That's fucked up, though. Fully autos, if you get caught one of them, you're out of here.

You can't even... That's fucked up and they put it there right in front of everybody else? Like how... It seems so fucked up. Remember I told you? Flaunted in front of people. Remember I told you? I was like, look, you ain't supposed to have hollows and stuff and I was breaking it down to you,

but that's police. That's like for police. If you go to the gun range and some gun ranges out here, they have hollow tips for you shoot, right? And those gun ranges, they have signs that say you have to empty your clip before you leave here. I mean, it could be on you, but if you, you know what I'm saying? I keep some shit in my house. But if you are out and you...

are hollow tipped up, that's a whole other case you don't want. And that's just in L.A. You know what I'm saying? Like, when you start to notice that they shift their direction from just jumping out on you at the tunnel and a robin, or not robin, arresting mob deep style, you know what I mean? Like that whole era shit has shifted into every time I see somebody talking crazy. I'm just like, the way you talk and don't even make sense, bro. Like, people in this shit don't even talk like that. Even if you're skeptical about the 6-9 thing, look at the situations that are happening with like G Herbo and the Castanova thing. I know he kind of touched on this last week or whatever,

but I mean, they're really like making it easy as fuck on the cops. When you look at something like the Casanova situation, they're saying that he had evidence in his DMs of him instructing people on like where to commit crimes. We won't go into super detail. But then the cops basically just send a search warrant to the fucking Instagram. Everybody six and I was beefing with is in trouble right now. Yes.

that everybody every single person six nine was beefing with is in trouble and that man is safe as fuck that's interesting in the club talking crazy shit

to Javante Davis that's cop shit bro not a nigga in his right mind is gonna just lip rassel with a motherfucker who hands is registered but he's not even in denial

about the fact that he's with the cops now but he told like once you like like I said it's like nobody wants to touch you now because I mean look the thing is when you poping off gangster shit

and you get caught on some gangsters shit, that's the difference. It's like once you tell, you're branded that forever. It's like, he can walk through this door right now. You know what I mean? I don't think no one's going to want to touch the nigger.

I don't want to go to jail. You're not even going to try to be by the blunt that get past to him before you get a lot of put on you. I'm cool. Hey, hey, have a nice day. But that's what ultimately is going to drive him crazy.

And because, like, it seems clear that his music career is not really going to work out. But there was a moment like nine months ago or whatever where it kind of felt. like, oh shit, like is this actually going to happen? Is this actually going to go down? But even when his music seemed like it was doing okay then,

it still felt like he was going to be miserable forever because nobody wanted to be associated with him. Which also, actually, this transitions nicely into the conversation that we were talking about having, which was this epic clubhouse call that went down this weekend. And actually, I thought that that was one of the more interesting topics that got brought up the act didn't really respond to that much, is that Meek Mill basically like accused academics of being part of like a conspiracy to make six nine pop off and uh i don't know i thought

that that was an interesting thing for me to throw out there and act didn't really get into that so much exactly but that was kind of interesting because okay when you're academics though this is this is the whole thing did he ever get money from six nine or his label i don't know it wouldn't surprise me at all if i found out that they did but at the end of the day too like he's running a business where he gets followers and he gets likes and he gets whatever from posting about shit that goes viral and we all seen it a million times that when 6-9 would fucking fart or do anything call somebody a bitch whatever it would always go viral so for academics to post that shit is the most self-evident thing ever but i mean from meek's perspective and i do think that when he said i immediately felt

it for a second when he said you posted about 6-9 laughing when king vaughn died we posted that too and i posted it in large part because i thought it made him look like a fucking idiot but i mean there's a good point i think to be had there a mixed part, like if your media company constantly puts a light on things that we all agree are bad, I mean, what does that really say about your media company, you know? I feel that in total. And the only thing that I say makes what I was saying before, because it's no telling what type of people then came and seen academics. I just watched the whole documentary on how the feds brought.

down with Costa Nostra. Right? All of the big mob bosses at the top, the families, they never were anywhere that anybody could see anything, right? Feds go back and Rudy Giuliani

and then I'm like, fuck it, let's change the rules. And they come up with the RICO law. And then that RICO law gives them the permission to do the foul as shit. Like, they fucking with your cable. So you call the cable dude. Now, the cable dude is a fad putting a wire in your house. You get what I'm saying?

Like, if they want to do some shit and rap seems like the easiest kill pond, it's like, if we are prosecutors, all we got to do is prosecute rappers, we fucking undefeated. You get what I'm saying? You got to look at what the competition and what the game is. And if you are not playing the game, but they are playing against you, you getting wiped. You getting wiped. And that's what a lot of shit is happening. It's like, we ask, why is academics highlighting six, nine shit so much?

Why is, why is academics talking to Freddie the way he was talking, bro? Every time I seen that, I was like, that shit cops say to motherfuckers, they want you to react in the bar or they see somebody they know that's a, this is a street getting money due from the neighborhood. We want to create some sort of like introduction. So undercover cops are being the bar starting shit. Right. Just to get you to jump wrong, just so they people can catch you leaving the bar and flick you. I think that what you're saying about like, why would academics feel like it was okay to talk to Freddie like that? Academics' response to most of that seemed like he's responding.

to people who have said things about him. Because I remember how that Freddie shit started. It started because Axe said that Freddie can't even sell as many records as Young Jeez-y right now if they both were to drop or whatever, which, I mean, maybe objectively was true or whatever. But it did start with academics just talking a little bit spicy about Freddie.

I don't know if Freddie had ever said anything about him before that. Do you recall? See, the thing is, and the way that I see it is that, you know, with somebody telling everybody that I'm not a street guy, I'm not like this, I'm not like that. Everybody probably been like making jokes on a nigger for a long time. And as a man, where do you draw the line to where you have to defend yourself?

You know what I'm saying? But in academics' position, there's like a weird thing where rappers are pretty much usually given the pass for talking shit to a media personality. But then the media personality gets judged like a civilian. Like you're not supposed to talk spicy. You're not supposed to act crazy. And I almost, to a certain point, I've realized that over time is that if a rapper really as something negative to say about me, it usually doesn't really benefit me to act aggressive

back. Because if I act aggressive back as a media guy, it just usually will get spun into me being an asshole or thinking I'm tough or whatever. Whereas I see it from rappers' perspective is that when they diss the media, it almost always goes over well. The fans are almost always behind them. If you're a rapper and you diss academics, no jumper, or Vlad, you're going to get a shitload of retweets and you're not going to get any real follow-up from that. You could dis Charlemagne. We've seen it a million times. Nobody really seems to hold that against anyone.

Here's the thing. Did you just said academics and then Vlad on the other side, right? We're discussing whether academics' intentions are bad, right? On the other side of the Vlad shit, I tweeted out last week. Like, I knew that shit was sus. Me and Mikey did a Vlad interview. The motherfucker wasn't even there. It was a laptop.

I didn't see his face at all. I'm just hearing his voice. And I'm like, I don't got shit, you know what I'm saying? Everybody knows what I'm up to. I ain't got shit the police need to look at no way. So it's like me talking about my album with somebody, like Vlad doesn't bother me no mind. But when I sit back and I see the questions he asked motherfuckers, I know that did some real shit in life. I'm like, bro, that shit is weird.

Because the setup, the setup itself, if you knew like, all right, you know, I did a whole bunch of time. And, you know, I'm about to do this little interview telling my story. and you walk in and that shit is creepier than a, what's that shit where you gotta go see the judge and you got to talk to them on the screen? Like, it's creepier than that. You're getting sentenced and you looking at a screen. That's what that shit feels like

if you're into something that, you know what I'm saying? You don't want everybody to know about. You know what I'm saying? So that type of, you know, slight to those media guys is like, you know, yours is majority curiosity. You know, I'm knowing you for a while. Like shit you ask is just, shit Adam would ask.

So like... There's that in line, though, because it's like if I interview like I saw Vlad you know I feel like the kind of shit that he gets shit about like not specifically but like when he had the baby on he did a really really good job of getting him to sort of flesh out his situation

with the Walmart and all that kind of stuff and it's like from my perspective somebody has to do that like that's not that has to but if you're a fucking willing participant in the interview because the baby easily could have said I don't want to talk about it you know and I've had Vlad even tell me that he has had somebody on his staff

call the sheriff department or call the local police department or whatever it is to make sure that the person's case was closed before he asked a person about it which i actually thought that was pretty smart because that's not something that would have necessarily occurred to me but i mean it's a question as a person in the media but the the weird thing is is that the media or like the people at home vlad does an interview talking to somebody about their criminal shit and gets a couple million views but then you'll also have 10 000 people retweeting something saying that vlad's a cop so it's like things have to be true at the same time here is that hating on that side of doing hip hop

content is really popular and that content is also really popular. People clearly want to know about that kind of shit. And the thing is, for like, Vlad interviewed me, right? And I was there and I was next to him. And the first thing that Vlad told me is he says, whatever you don't want in this interview, let me know and I won't share it. You know what I'm saying? And even though the questions that he was asking me was kind of weird, like he asked

me, oh, I said, I got a little brother in prison. He's like, what's your little brother in prison for? And I could respond and say, well, he did this and bop, blah, bop. And if that comes out, that's really on me. And, you know, when he asked me that, I told him, I said, my brother's in jail for some alleged stuff, you know, like

some stuff. And I just left it like that. And that's like how I like, how Peewey Longway went on here. You were a crib, right? He's like, nope. You know what I mean? I like the color blue. Yeah. I just like the color blue. And the thing is, too, is like, if somebody comes over here and talks to you and they say, something. You know what I'm saying? Like, it goes both ways. Yes, this niggas asking the questions, but be smart enough to not incriminate yourself

and nothing that you do. You know what I mean? That's how I feel. No, there's the thing with little baby, when Vlad was asking a little baby about the fight, baby got into jail. And he was like, how you know he was a white dude? That was when I was like, yeah, how the fuck did you know? You don't get jail. There ain't no jail notes. But the way you could just look up on the line and see you. The baby, or little baby played that excellently. But when I asked Vlad about that, he said, that little baby had just told that story already in another interview or some shit and that he had apparently just forgotten that he had said that it was a white guy or whatever

but i mean like that is like you know it's the shit about vlad goes so viral so consistently regardless of if it's true because the whole casanova thing has been like really really blown up but if you actually peep that casanova interview like what are the most controversial or incriminating things he talked about he talked about robbing a liquor store but got caught for and had already done time for. So that's why he felt comfortable talking about it. And then what was the other thing that he talked about? He talked about, damn, there was some dumb shit.

I forget. But he really didn't incriminate himself that much. Like the shit that he got caught up for is not the shit that he was talking about on that interview. If anything, the thing that surprised me was that Casanova was in a gang that I had never even heard of before that he had never really said by name in songs or in interviews and shit like that since so many people say I'm in this gang and then they don't get fed cases for being in that gang but see remember what I told you is like by default if my gang does something

and they the feds build a case up around it I'm going to get entangled into it off the rip and even just having associated with guys in the section that's how they put you in that shit you could say here well somebody can hit you up and say yeah I need some money for this or I need some money for that. They can use shit like that against you. If we were aliens showing up on Earth right now, the fact that people so gleefully talk about their gang affiliations on songs and in

interviews and then get fed cases for literally being in those gangs, it would seem like the craziest thing on earth that people just sort of incriminate themselves that easily. I don't do it no more. That's how cool being in a gang apparently is. It's not cool. Is that people are willing to risk their freedom just to have people know

that they have that association. We just live in a different time now. Like, With everybody getting targeted and stuff like that, like it's happening more frequently. Social media is just leaving a trail for the fucking police. You know what I mean? You just, everybody's leaving breadcrumbs. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I ain't even going to say, no.

I'm going to say something about myself. No, no. No, to me, it seems like this was perfectly executed. And just the direction kind of music is taking, even like street music, been street music. But it's way different than when we was listening to the, Thug Motivation 101 or any of that shit. It was still like content-based or story-based or, you know, I was just listening to the past

three days. I just took just one CD. I was listening to CD again. It was Mr. Don't Play by Project Pat. And I was just like, man, this shit is deep. This is like the whole album was deep as hell. And then I started to notice like, you know, through time, the labels incentivize like, you know what I'm saying?

It's no telling how many times. I got put on a street rapper. And as soon as I go to his Insta, he already is verified. He's already got 600,700,000 100,000 followers. Like, you know, it ain't no easy thing to get verified from Instagram. That shit ain't no, like, I know authors. I know video, like movie directors that ain't been verified yet. But so much of that has to do not with the labels,

but the fact that the labels don't really matter anymore, that you could be a kid who's not signed to a label and you make a song talking shit about your ops and basically like laying, out who your side killed. Like a lot of those Brooklyn drill rappers, like, one time I saw a compilation of like all the different pop in Brooklyn drill rappers and who they beef with. And it just was like including like different lyrics

that I would kind of look over because I don't know exactly who's beefing over whatever, but it's basically like straight up acknowledging that so and so got killed by my crew. And a lot of ways that's why that shit is doing millions of views because it's like watching a fucking horror movie in real time. Like you're watching fucking murders play out via YouTube, via SoundCloud, whatever, but it's taking place and these people are documenting it for you and a lot of times are ending up in jail for it or ending up killed for it. And that's why I like how 20 what 21 said in the clubhouse app was like, look, you can't just put the blame on just academics. It starts with all of us.

We're the ones that are glorifying talking about smoking on packs of people like these are real people like people just make light of oh, I'm smoking on this pack. It's the same culture that was having a fucking laugh at Gucci's saying the shit about Pookie Boat like three weeks ago. I mean, you know, it's the same shit. That shit is crazy in itself. And you write about like, you know, people like the dope they're being sold. You know what I'm saying? They like it a lot.

They're complaining about it, but they like the dope they're being sold. And it's making it easier for the authorities or the people against you to just prop you up real quick. And then everybody's satisfied because we prop you up. Everybody likes you, but they kind of want to see you for. fall and as soon as you fall, they is as interested in you going down as they was on you getting up. And they're going to move on. Yeah, it's like, it's super microwaved right now.

And it's, it makes it dangerous for people that's, you know, you'll hear the story. You know, I'm just trying to, you know, do better for my family. But, you know what I'm saying? Like, words, words are magic. And you put certain shit out and it comes back to you actually with interest in way quicker than it used to. You know what I'm saying? Because everybody can be everywhere.

motherfuckerger, send your tag or seen your location. That's the craziest shit I ever heard in my life. Like, nigga. It's not... Address. It's not even...

Address. It's not even fair now. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, how I grew up and how things are now, it's like, my nigga. Like, my little brother is in jail for having

his cell phone in the scene of a crime. Like, they pinged his location from his cell phone. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, my nigga,

Every time you talk to somebody or you diss somebody or you do something, it's like they have that shit right there. You can't, even when you delete it, it's not gone. Is it going to a database? The question is for somebody like you or you as well, I guess, like your content was, I guess, more like street or whatever. But imagine yourself coming up right now. And all you got to do is talk shit about another neighborhood on the other side of town that you actually genuinely don't like and you and all your friends have a problem with. and somebody you know might have shot at them or whatever. All you got to do is lay those grievances out on a track.

And you know that that song that might have got, you know, say you're just coming up and that song might have done 10,000 views on YouTube, and you know you could get a half a million. You know you can get a million. All you got to do is lay that shit out there. And yes, you're making it incredibly easy on the cops, but you also know that there's all these fucking kids aren't going to be able to look away. Yes.

No, that's what happened with that murder on my mind song. I remember listening to that shit for the first time. I'm like, I remember hearing it, and this was before Melly got locked up, and you know, my brain works crazy, so I'm like, dog, this nigga did this shit. And I was like, oh, no, bro. Like, that's why we like the hook so much, it's because he had pain in his heart when he sang that shit. And then that was the song they pushed. Like, that shit had like 120 million of you.

I would have never been able to believe that that shit would do as big as it was. When I first heard it, I thought this is the hard-ass, but it's like a street record like I didn't think it was going to become what it fucking became man that's because it was true and it's like allegedly allegedly but still like

you're not you ain't doing yourself no favors you know what I'm saying but see that's why they say clout is a drug it's like you know that crack is bad

but there's crackheads out here you know what I'm saying and they're still going and they still going so clout is a new thing of that and you know with me being a street artist right I'm like, let me be smart about a situation because me not even saying nothing to nobody.

I didn't have the police pull up on me and say weird shit to where I'm like, okay, yeah, they're on to me. I didn't have my phone tap before. I remember my homie got arrested one time and he came home. He was like, they got your grandma picture in the fucking pop, pop, pop, pop, and they're asking me about this. So it's like your grandma's picture? I swear to God.

And my phone was tapped for like a year before. But it was just, it's just like, I, when it comes down to, you. So you're supposed enemies and stuff like that, I was taught to, you know, we're not going to put that on air. We just don't ignore them niggas. They don't exist. You know what I'm saying? Because if you diss this nigger, now somebody from his side is going to have to say something to you.

Now, you just gave them clout. This nigger may get a deal before you get a deal. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's interesting, though, that you say that because when I actually really think about it in L.A., it's not really that much of a culture of talking about who got killed and who's that shit real out of. Yeah.

Yeah, and there's OGs. There's people that tell these kids don't do that. I'm sure you probably had people around you, even when you were 20 years old, that would tell you don't put that in a song because the cops are going to get on your ass. I think a lot of these kids in Chicago and Brooklyn and shit don't, they're the first gangbanger in their family.

Their dad wasn't a gangbanger. They're the first ones out here. They don't have no big, and look at Chicago. Chicago is a bunch of young niggas. You know what I'm saying? Like, me growing up in the streets, I have, like, you met suicide. That's somebody when I was growing up who,

you know what I'm saying kept the neighborhood afloat and before little homies would go do certain stuff you would have to ask this nigger and you know what I mean and have to ask this nigga and ask this nigga before you made any type of decisions because one decision that you make fuck us all up as a whole and it's just like right now like one of my little homies can go do something right now I'm directly affected by it even though I have nothing to do with it you know what I'm saying then niggas is gun for me now and this that's happened plenty of times where I'm out here somewhere minding my business and they're like, hey, this happened, this happened, this happened,

keep your head on a swivel. And I'm the fucking trophy for my neighborhood so, nigga, I'm public enemy number one if one of my little homies do something and I have to guide them the right way. Like, look, this is what we're doing. Let's get some money. This is gangster taking care of our families.

All this other shit starving and everything. This is the way to go. And that shit I was saying about how there's just this insatiable urge for people to watch, you know, violence play out in real time and stuff. And you think about academics or like really a lot of these media companies, what are they good at? They're good at jumping between the people who want to see that shit and the people who are doing that shit.

So that, because, you know, if it was up to, you know, a 21 Savage, he would probably really like only communicate with those fans through his music and his own social media. But he's not going to put all the crazy ass shit out there necessarily. Somebody like at his social media kind of acts to show maybe not somebody necessarily like 21. He might kind of have his shit more on lock. but if somebody gets into a fight at a show, maybe some of those people, they don't put that shit on their social media, but people around them put it on their social media.

And it's like, it's too hard for the kids at home for most of them to really like figure out exactly what's going on. Like somebody is always going to be there to fill that void. Because if you really are on YouTube, you realize that there's academics, but then there's also like a million other kids who want to be academic.

There's so many, look, uh, some, you know, it's a whole bunch of, YouTube shit because, you know, I get to the house, I play a lot of music on YouTube, like if I'm cooking or I just play one and let it run through. So I'm super proud of, like, where Detroit has came in the past two years

and how everybody is slapping Detroit music and everybody, you know what I'm saying, really rock with the style that, you know, the Detroiters made. So it used to go from on YouTube, from everybody just posting Detroit stuff to now, like, YouTubers getting in the middle of issues with people in the city and like taking their lives that they would have did or somebody getting in an argument on live, which is the craziest

shit I ever heard in my life. But two motherfuckers don't fuck with each other. Y'all FaceTiming each other. That is insane. But you got to understand that once you do that, that shit getting archived. And these people are going on YouTube

and doing their dissertation of what they feel happened. Like, it's some shit going on where I know what the fuck happened. And I'm looking at four or five different stories of people tell you with 145,000 views what they thought happened and saying that, oh, yeah, they're going to get on them tonight. And I'm just like, bro, this shit. It's different. This shit is really talking like that and just been sitting there watching it and thinking, like, they're going to kill this kid. Like, this kid got a million views on his YouTube video, but somebody will shoot him for this.

If they get a chance and if this kid doesn't sort of clean up his act over time. because if you keep putting shit out there like this, they are going to kill you for this. But once you do that, it's already gone. Like, if you, if, if one of my family members is dead and you talk about them in a song and it gains notoriety, it doesn't matter if three, four, five, six, seven years go down the line. I would never forgive you for that.

And I know that's how other motherfuckers feel about the situation. So when you cross that threshold, it's all, all gloves is off after that. Like, you can't come back and say, I'm a born-again Christian now or something like, No, nigga, this shit is out here for the public to ridicule somebody that I love. And it's crazy because every single thing that we're saying, your point is like somebody's going to want to get in the middle to transcribe that for people. And the only thing I can think of is like, you're right.

It's like motherfuckers want PS5s right now. I know people that are down to pay $3,000 for a PS5 without the games, the digital shit, just because they want it right now. So that hunger for just satisfying certain urges that you get, whether it be immediate urge or whether it be, you know what I'm saying? People like to watch shit burn. And we just are in a culture now where we're so desensitized to everything that we like. Is that motherfucker on fire? I don't even want to see it.

And you know what the thing I didn't like about the fucking clubhouse thing was is that it didn't feel like when they were coming at act that they were necessarily coming with specific enough examples because there is always going to be a media. source and the media source is always going to put stuff out there about rappers that they don't like. Like, if you, if any one of us went to a fucking party tomorrow and if a fucking famous rapper punched me in the face, it's, it's going to be on academics, it's going to be on whatever platform. And it should be. Of course, it has to be. Because why, like, it's interesting enough that of course it's actually, what did you

say? I'm going to put him back. Yeah, we're going to beat them up, but we're going to kill them. No, it's just funny how right you are because I definitely even, you say, I definitely even like knowing you like I know you if somebody posted a hey somebody knock Adam 22 out before I even call you I'm gonna be like let me see what the fuck I'll put it on my own Instagram to be honest just because you got to get in front of that shit but what I'm saying is that that's the kind of thing that if meek Mill gets into a fucking fight in the parking lot of a club of course

that's going to end up on academics because it kind of has to because if it's not on there it's going to be on every other fucking platform that's just the kind of shit if it's public shit that happened is going to be on there I think the more interesting questions are kind of like the fringe cases. Like, for instance, I've been in the position before where a rapper got killed. And then there was a video of the homies of the dude who killed him in jail, talking on his iPhone, making fun of the rapper who just got killed. And that was a weird situation for me where I believe we decided not to post it because it was like, this guy isn't nobody. He's, A, going to get himself in trouble because he got a phone in jail apparently.

And it ain't like the cops are going to fucking miss this. and B, he's saying something that is completely detrimental to society I don't think that this rapper deserves to be having his fucking grave shit on right here. And, you know, it's like those are more like the fringe cases where you have to make a decision

because if there's a video of fucking little baby shitting on his ops saying some crazy shit about him, well, I mean, you're a fucking celebrity. This is going to be in the news one way or another because, you know, you were smart enough to make this decision. But a lot of times it's like

when it feels like media outlets are just straight posting shit that's just straight poison to the community and it's being done by people who aren't even public figures. I think those are like the more legitimate grievances about that kind of content, you know? No, man, it's a tricky 360 regardless of where it goes because even that point you made to somebody that might not have that centered, you know, soul that understands, like, right, and, you know, like, all right, this is right and this is entertaining and this is a little fucked up. I feel like people might like it. And then this is just totally bad. Like it's,

it's tricky because, you know, when attention is at stake and we are in a vast, vast, infinite abyss of internet, you know what I mean? To do what you got to do to even get somebody to look at your shit is slightly absurd. We all know that being a good rapper is not going to necessarily get you there. We all know tons of good ass rappers, great singers, great lyricists, et cetera, who are not getting any goddamn attention, or even like Chuck brought up the example earlier. Todd Dollis-in put out on an amazing album three weeks ago. And we are not talking about that.

We're talking about some fuck shit. Because it's, you know, it's kind of like, and just like you were saying, this is where morals come into play. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, that's kind of like what the clubhouse shit I was getting from them talking about academics too was. Where do you stand morally? You know what I mean?

And I like what I like. they said. They said, listen, you put too much personal into your media platform. So even though they're like, okay, you're Adam 22, but nigga, no jumper is a fucking platform. It gives me a little bit of leeway. It gives you a little bit of leeway. Something on no jumper and they know I didn't post it. So I get, you know, but I still like somebody will quote tweet a fucking no jumper post and say like, you're 36 years old. Why the fuck are you talking about this? Even though I didn't, I don't even know about it. So I see it's like even like Vlad. Like if it's, okay, you have Vlad TV. It's your name on there. You have academics. It's your name.

You don't have the AD, I mean the Adam 22, blah, blah, blah, whatever. It's like, okay, this is no jumper. You know what I mean? And there's a lot of different people are part of this fucking company now. So it kind of like slides to the side. And then too, like off camera, we have conversations

about shit that you could post and niggas and we like, no, this ain't a good look. Or we shouldn't say this. Or we shouldn't say this. And, you know, you got niggas like me that's like, look, the streets ain't going to like this. You know what I'm saying? And then you know in a way that they probably wouldn't even fucking think about and it's not them trying to be uh fucked up or just post some shit for content it's just like you know what I'm saying

you need different people around you to give you different views of what to do and what not to do and which communities is going to affect when you post that and I feel like you know and it was fucked up with the clubhouse thing because I felt like for a moment they was just like like academics had no choice but to try to defend themselves if 21 wasn't in there Oh, it was bad. You can kind of imagine that it would have been way more viral and really fucked up. I'm really like cruel. No, yeah, he handled that.

I got so much respect with 21. Man, just more now, bro. I always thought that that man was a genius. No, that nigger now is like, like, damn, my nigga. And it's coming from him. Right. What makes it even crazier. You kind of think of 21 almost being in this like elder, like, role, like a Jay Cole type role,

which is pretty crazy because when you think about 21 coming out, Nobody epitomized murder music and just crazy toxicity better than him. I mean, like, I have to fully admit it in like 2016 or whatever. When we were first listening to 21, it was the hardest shit in the world to us. But it was partially because there wasn't a whole lot going on besides just killing. Pull up on a nigger blocking. Now, you know what's crazy too? Is that I don't even know if this is like a subliminal thing.

But no jumber, it comes off like an edgier, you know, hip-hop rolling stuff. on or, you know, you got to people that won't know, you, you got a Howard Sternis, like, aura about, you know, how you answer questions, how you doc, but, for sure. Academics and Vlad were DJs. Like, in 2004, 2005, Vlad was a DJ. Like, his site was, like, all hip-hop or, like, any other site you got your mixtape news or whatever the fuck, academics the same way. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, academics was just like DJed in college or some shit for a little bit. He came out as DJ academics.

That was on his shit. You got DJ Quick. One of my favorite rappers all the time. I don't know DJ Quick DJs. No, I'm talking about like them being like a personality. Not saying they really DJed, but saying they, we come in as the producers of this music. We come as creators of this music, not covering the news source of this music. So the switch up, like it gives them a little bit.

more access with Kassim unfair. Like, you know, when I go do the Vlad shit, I wasn't watching Vlad interviews. I didn't know what the fuck I was going to do. I was. I seen one. I seen one and I saw Sealo do it. So I was like, oh shit, yeah, cool. It's on my press run and I don't think

twice about it because I'm aware of Vlad from being a DJ, from me doing street team work from, you know what I mean, college days. So I'm like, oh, I'm going to speak to a DJ. So if you think you're speaking to a DJ, your whole expressions is different. If I'm coming and speak to a hip-hop journalist, my whole vocals is different. You get what I'm saying? So I feel like

that that has, you know, in that clubhouse when they were like, man, you got to be more responsible than that. I think that's where I saw. Like, hey, dog, you said you was a DJ, bro. Like, we dealing, like, if we're dealing in music, then we're dealing in music. You covering this shit like Wendy Williams. I got the impression that act seemed like he was at least, like, open to, like, reimagining exactly, like, what kind of stuff he would be posting, which I think. thought was interesting because whether it's Vlad or Academics or Nojumper or fucking lyrical lemonade or whatever it's like all these platforms are malleable to whatever extent and can change like you know like the the worst thing that academics ever did was probably

a long time ago in terms of like the kind of shit that he was covering that people think is irresponsible in terms of like documents in these really like small time Chicago rappers killing each other and stuff and doing it in sort of like a flippant way like I think that that is like the main criticism that people will always throw at AC was that he at times made videos that just seemed too joking about motherfuckers getting killed in Chicago

and stuff. But it's like he has changed up his platform and stuff but it's still like for me too I do, I definitely am like constantly kind of having the conversation with you or whoever about what kind of stuff we should post what kind of stuff is considered appropriate to pose. One of the problems you run into is that

a lot of the most positive shit will just not do numbers on Google or on Instagram. It's like you can because that's kind of the whole thing like TMZ has the same problem. Let's take it totally outside of hip hop. When I was talking to Van Lathen back then about TMZ and I know he don't really fuck with him like that anymore. But like one thing he would point out is like TMZ post tons of super positive shit like

positive things. People spending 20 racks in the club and that shit maybe go a little viral or whatever. Someone's so giving out 100 turkeys in the hood on Thanksgiving, whatever. Maybe that gets a little bit of traction. But then, you know, like when they post about Kobe dying before the family was notified or some shit or when they are the first ones to report like the crazy ass shit, I mean, on one hand, that's what makes them good at their job is that they're fucking first on shit that other people choose to be a little bit more tactful about. But then also the fact that like that shit is what they become known for because it's the big shit that gets your attention. You know, like a lot of like 100 positive articles are never. going to amount to one such and such rapper shot somebody and we're all guilty of it because

even like you like what you told me right um when veil gave me that one site and we're just watching this shit it's like constant murders and fucking cartel hits and beheadings and all that what was that like uh i don't say it no right we're not it's way worse than world's stuff it's way it's like faces of death but it's like that it's like that but it's it's like the most extreme shit shit and it's like it makes academics the shit look like a joke if academics post it any of this shit it would be a completely different conversation

so you're saying this is like a this is like a site site literally like no it's like I follow on Instagram too cartel members like ripping their enemies face off like cutting the face off ripping your face off like a fucking body just stabbing the body a hundred times

when we first seen it we sat there and watched it for like 20 minutes and then I watched it for like two weeks and then I was like I tapped out before you did but But look, look, look. But listen, that's the, that's the point.

Eight hours a day. If that will intrigue somebody, right? And that's what you're looking for now. You're not even looking for the good in whatever to be entertained. And it's like I had to take myself away from that because when you keep watching that, it desensitizes you. And you're so used to just, okay, somebody else died, somebody else died, cartel hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, ISIS, shit, all type of shit.

It's like, okay, you, okay, this don't entertain me no more. Somebody, like you said, going to the hood, passing out turkeys, or somebody doing this, or a rapper doing this, or a singer doing this, and it's like, no, you have to have a choice of not clicking on that shit no more. I don't watch the shit no more. It has to be a conscious choice, because since the inception of World Star, I do feel like, you know,

I ain't even going on front. It's been something I've checked once every two or three days for the past 11 years. I stopped at a certain point. I stopped too. Yeah, but like I dialed back, like around the time they was doing Vinecoms, because I used to check the VineComps. Those were funny.

Those was funny. World Star was the shit when you could go watch fights all the time. Because you remember, the content used to be so much more awful. Like it was like a different crazy long fight or some shit. Like a million in a row. The Fight Compilations, I still love them. But even the Fight Compilation World Star era was after that because it used to be that, like they invented the fight compilation so that they didn't have to have the whole.

home page be mad fights over and over and over you know but look at remember look it's it's it's just everything evolves it's like nigger i remember bum fights like nigger this is not good but what people white star evolved because they weren't going to be able to get advertisers on their shit unless they cleaned up the way it looked image wise you know so that and and really when you look at like all these instagram accounts and shit like that it's like they're big because or or they are what they are because academics or world start couldn't even post the most violent shit like if there's something like when you think about like shit that would would really go viral.

I've seen my homie X laid out bleeding to death in a video clip. Academics didn't post that. But if he had posted it, that would have been the most viewed clip probably in the history of fucking Instagram on his account. They posted that shit, which is still fucked up. Because the truth is,

that's the worst thing you can imagine, a beloved rapper dying in front of your own eyes, and it would have been the most viral thing that could have possibly been posted. That's how people are. People like drama, bro. No, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Well, you can't look away.

I'll be like this. Fire or anything. Yeah. Cool. People like, people love fire. And this is, you know, I would think that I love seeing, you know, the world get along and beautiful shit. But when I was younger speaking about the car crash shit, one of the iller times, like one of the days where I was like, I don't know if that was cool or not. But I grew up on the east side of Detroit.

I'm at a barbershop. We like, we like in a neighborhood where my first barbershop I was at, we had. We had somewhere where kids could play, but at nighttime, you knew what type of time it was. So it's broad daylight. I'm hopping out of the car. I'm with a friend's uncle. We're going to get a haircut. It's a white Mustang that pulls, and it's like literally two cars away from us.

It crashes into the side of the building. The dude hop out. He got a leather jacket on. He looked like Rico from paying for. He got a gun in his hand, and he starts sprinting up the street. And I was like, holy shit, bro. Like, I should be scared, but I'm not. still looking at it and I get yanked I get yank like boy get your ass in here and I'm thinking like

I get why people get into danger like the adorphins and the adrenaline that hits from seeing some like that was some cop shit like I ain't seen all I seen was cops at that point I'm like eight or nine I ain't never seen you know what I'm saying I ain't never seen a high speed high action you know like I didn't been in the neighborhood where shit went down and all the neighbors is talking that that's drama yeah but that's grown folk shit like as a child to see like a speed and dope chase car crash, motherfuckers hopping out with pistols, you like, that should not be cool to me. But your brain is tricking you and like, I ain't going to look away.

It's probably like more vivid to you remembering it right now than probably almost anything else that you saw as a kid. Like same thing with me. When I think about like the fight experiences that I've seen or been a part of or whatever, I mean, like you replay it in your head a thousand fucking times and it becomes like such a permanent memory to you. I'm sure they're like every shootout like that you, not that you've involved in, but that you witnessed or whatever. I'm saying that that shit has to be seared into your mentality. But see, and that's the thing too. Like I told you a long time ago is that I've been through so many

funerals, appears, is that you really get immune to it. It's just like, okay, somebody else died. And these are like close people to you. Like, and it wasn't until like I moved out the hood and start talking to other people like you know some of the shit you went through was not okay you know what I'm saying and you just and you just talk about it like like it's normal and it's like nigga that's not normal you know what I mean so when you come from from certain places like I did like nigga you're desensitized to people losing their lives like I like when I was in middle school niggas was already getting shot and pop right you would hear about babies and all type of you know I mean old ladies getting killed and it was just like okay what do you in every party I used to go to

growing up, it was like, you knew it was going to get shot up. It was just a matter of when should you leave the party? And, you know, somebody get hit. It's like, okay, you're expecting to go somewhere and somebody's going to die and you just don't want it to be you. Yeah. You know what I mean? And hip hop doesn't talk about therapy that much.

It's not, it's looked down upon it. It's not even regarded as trauma. It's regarded as normal to have a whole shitload of your peers die at a certain age. And I mean, I say hip hop, like, you're talking about your childhood. It's just fucking Compton. You know, like, but these places, like, this just not processed as if it's as serious as it is.

Like even with me, like, like, I've said to you, I'm like, yo, like, I've had like dozens of rappers I interview get killed like over the past couple years and you're like, imagine being from Compton. You're like, welcome to the club. I've been doing this longer than you. Yes, bro, because, you know, and then too, like, speaking on sopranos again. Yeah. They was mad when they found out Tony was in therapy.

They're like, what? That was the whole show's. That was the whole show's anxiety the whole time from the first season is he's in. he's in there and he knows he's not supposed to be in there. And like, they go through that. And, like, when you bring that up, that's the most important part of the show is that he's not supposed to be talking about this. He talks about, like, you know where I'm from, where I'm from?

Like, this is, I'll be dead. That's an interesting question, hypothetically, is if it all of a sudden became clear that somebody like Meek Miller, JZ, was in therapy, do you think that the community would react badly to it? Like, do you think there's a big chunk of that would? I feel like now we're at a point where, can't nobody stand up on no stool and try to tell you that that ain't what's going for you.

Right. I think the transparency of what motherfuckers been going through. There might be some hardheaded dude. It's different. Five, six years ago. It's different now. When you're in the streets and no, I'm a streets in therapy, don't mix. Once you're successful, like, if I went to therapy right now, I wouldn't expect no one

to be like, oh, there's nigg ADs in therapy. You're like, nah, nigga, like, that's cool for me right now. But, like, you know, you can't diss nobody's dead ops and sit there and say, I'm smoking on a pack and then going to therapy. That shit is just weird. You could. You just have to explain it to your therapist. You're going to be like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Yeah. I mean, but what the, I think that anybody that would even do that wouldn't even go to therapy. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you have a conscious mind to go to therapy first. Yeah, before you went and did that shit. I never talked about this. But I've been in therapy for four months, five months at this point.

and that's a conversation that I had with my therapist is that like I never really even thought about like the idea of it being trauma for me to watch all these people die and like for with her like like she makes such a big deal out of it and then also I start to think like because there's a new one every week

and I like not every week but I've had to tell her about so many fucking time. It's more more. I like just got done telling her about King Vaughn and then I got to tell her about Mo3 and it's not like I have to tell her but it's like lurking in the back of my head like you know Boosie is in the hospital right now

Benny the butchers in the hospital right now. It's like all these, and that's not even to say anything about the fucking number of people that I've met who are like friends of rappers. Like friends of Shoreline alone. Like, I don't know, three, four, five people that I actually have like hung out with and smoked a blunt with that are gone already.

And that's one fucking crew. Yeah. And you know, the thing is too is like, that's when I found out I had bad anxiety. Because, you know, growing up, everybody would tell you like, like, y'all, man, okay, go. You go to a funeral. and you don't really face it.

You know what I'm saying? You just keep moving. You keep moving. You keep moving. And I just started having like real bad anxiety attacks. And I didn't know why I was having anxiety attacks. I didn't know why I just started tripping and stuff like that. And then, you know, it wasn't until people told me like, nigger, the type of shit you go through,

you don't talk about it. You don't let it. You know what I'm saying? You don't let it go. And it's like no one is immune to that mental illness and mental problems and stuff too. because like now I can talk about certain shit and sometimes nigger I'll be just driving. Sometimes I just break down crying just remembering all the dead homies and my grandma and certain shit that I don't really talk about.

But now speaking about certain things and able to even talk about it on a platform that helps out because I know kids right now listening like, okay, especially in the hood like man look, okay, this is not cool to go to this many funerals. It's not cool to bury people that you've seen every day like your brothers and stuff like that and you shouldn't even want to live like that. You know what I'm saying? But do you think part of it is the fact that if you were to take it as serious as it is, it would consume your whole life.

Like in the way that like everybody kind of prefers not to think about the kids starving in fucking Africa or all over places of the world and shit. We just don't think about it. We know that exists, but we don't think about it. And in reality, if you thought about it, you would probably start donating a chunk of the money that you make to these charities that help with that kind of shit. Because if we actually were honest about the fucked up shit that was going on around us, you would just not be able to go about your same selfish life the way that we all do. You know, like if you actually

really took these killings that we're talking about as seriously as they are, you would be a fucking community organizer who would spend all your time. And a lot of times rappers do end up like that. When you look at somebody like fucking, God damn it. I'm not going to do it. I'm just and act like I didn't even just do that. There's a lot of, like, rappers that we've seen who get to a certain point where they start to maybe take that violence as serious as it is,

and they start to, like, that kind of becomes their life at a certain point. They kind of be, and I'm not sure if it necessarily is because they feel like they have to make up for some of the bad that they put into the world by rapping around killing and shit. But, I mean, I don't know. There's like a party that just sort of ignores it, right?

And that's why I like what 21 said. He's saying, listen, we are all responsible because we are, We talk about the shit. We laugh about the killings of people now. You know what I mean? Like, it's not unheard of anymore to hear about some dead person in a song or somebody dissing them.

Like, 10 years ago in hip hop, you didn't see shit like that. You know what I'm saying? You didn't hear about, oh, that nigga, like, people blindly saying people's names now. And you know what I'm saying? Like, I seen a nigga go to a nigga grave and, like, posted on Instagram. That was mind-blowing. I remember when the nigga from the DMV. Hey, I looked up, I looked up that little article, uh,

the, I guess the dude who passed away's mother said that wasn't even his grave. She said it wasn't his grave. But I've seen that a couple of times so far. There was a situation with Thug and Lucci where somebody allegedly fucking spray painted somebody's grave, like somebody involved in all that and stuff. And I even remember hearing academics actually talk about that on his stream where he said that that that shit happened and he just didn't even post it because he thought it was too fucked up to even be encouraged. And then, I mean, I guess it happened again.

That's when the shit gets extra. That becoming not. normalized, if that becomes normalized where like every couple months we get to see a different rapper of spray painting is ops grave, don't you think like that being something that is like kind of new to hip hop like that being covered on Instagram?

Should we all maybe be able to agree? Let's not do that. Let's not encourage that behavior. Let's not pose that behavior. Like it would be crazy. Like it's hard to imagine, but imagine if when somebody comes out and says I'm smoking on my fucking ops ashes or whatever, if

the response from hip hop, was, bro, that ain't cool. Like, why the fuck you got to be saying that? People won't do it. That shit's corny as fuck. The same way that Hibbop clearly does have like this collective like group thing that they're happy to put upon people who do things that they think are fucked up. But it's like, there should probably be more things that people are with.

And not not your canceled, not, oh, we should never fuck with you again. But not just, bro, that shit ain't cool. Like, why would you want to encourage that or like ask like a real question? And the crazy thing is that that's the most embarrassing response you can get is they want a hot or cold. You know what I mean? and they want you to not care or to be extremely engaged in it. They don't want to, hey, fam, you wild.

Like, that shit was whack as fuck. Like, hearing something, hearing somebody tell you something as whack as fuck that you did, it will always be humbling. You know what I'm saying? That's why I did shit the way I did it. Like, I remember one time.

Like, a girl told me some shit that I did was whacking, like, seventh grade, bro, and I was like, damn. Because I like, you know what I'm saying? It was, we was going back and forth, we was roasting each other. I had said something, said the joke, she got a little sad, I said the joke again.

And then in the hall, I said the joke again. And then the girl I thought was cute was like, hey, that was whack. And I was like, damn, damn. And then everybody looked at me like, yeah, that shit was funny in class, but it ain't funny no more. And I was like, wow. That's kind of like the big homie thing. Like, you know, if more people were willing to be a big homie to somebody and step in and just say like, yo, that shit ain't cool.

Like, don't put yourself in that situation. And I'm making it worse wearing a shirt. What does it say again? It says, Merry Christmas to all the ops. Hope someone got your ass this year. Yeah, you realize. Hey. He offered me that shirt.

I was like, I don't know. I don't know if that's me. Shout to the homie Carl. No, but, you know, like. Before we got into this conversation, that shirt was hard, though. I know. I was like, now in hindsight, if I knew we was going to talk about this, I was like, this is not the right entire way.

The red one? The red one was kind of funny to me because it looked like a really long, Big America Great Again's shirt. Like it was like a more detailed explanation. I gotta go take a piss. You guys can go out. Wrong shirt day. Nah,

but you know, even like now in my city, bro, I see like the trend now. I see a lot of niggas like kicking over candlelights now. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like,

all that shit is not cool. And shit like that to me can't be forgiven. You know what I mean? It's like it's a certain line that you cross when it comes down to respect. You know what I mean? I understand having enemies and having ops. And, you know, one of them drop.

You ain't going to sit there and be sad or anything like that. But, you know, they have, everybody has families. You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody has moms. Everybody has family that loves them. And even though you and this person may hate each other and may want to kill each other at the end of the day. It's just like, I feel like the more, these days are now way more disrespectful.

It was like, you know, from, from, I was saying, a lot of that shit got to do with the ability to show it off. You know what I'm saying? Like, you think back to the, what's that, season three of the wire. Fire. Were they talking about they don't do shit on Sundays? You know what I'm saying? Like, there was honor amongst thieves.

Like, that's where that statement comes from. Like, we got, look, it's the game we plan, but here's out of bounds. Now out of bounds, niggas is just playing 21. You know what I'm saying? It used to be the game, out of bounds, free throw line. Not everybody playing 21, making up their own rules when they get to 20 shooting shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? You know how 21 goes?

And the ball is all the way in the grass. A niggas is grabbing the ball out the grass and dribbling it back on the court, bro. And when everybody decides that there is no rule, even the person that created the game don't got shit to say. And it'd be down to the shit I say to people all the time. if you write right if you're in a room full of 15 people and you know you right

but the rest of the 14 other motherfuckers is wrong you wrong facts you know what I'm saying you might be right but that might is only there because you can't confirm it and you can't back it up

and you can't stamp it so if you are in that room and you're like bro it's really blue in the sky and everybody like nah nah nah that actually shit is white bro

shit is white bro no shit is white and you sitting there like but dog You just got to shut the fuck up. So it's like with certain things that's, you know, in the big homie conversations, like I didn't been,

I didn't watch a lot of these kids grow up. Like, you know what I'm saying? I look young, but I didn't been around here. I didn't seen everybody do shit since they was in high school or middle school or somebody big at a label was the first person to throw a party

to the cool kids came to. You start noticing like, all right, I got a voice with people for certain shit. People are, my rule is I'm not saying nothing to no little niggas. don't ask me because I'm not trying to, you know, wave a peace flag into some shit that I don't got nothing to do with. You know what I'm saying?

But if they ask me, I'll tell them. But that's what the big hummy shit is right now. It's like 14 niggas say one wrong thing. You because you think you got history or you think people listen to you or you got bigger hummies that then put you on and gave you more of a stamp than them, you think they're about to listen to you when they'll shoot your ass. And that's the only thing that's stopping. I feel like a lot.

Shit is just wild west. So it's like if it's three motherfuckers I know, unless I know them right well, as long as I know the argument, if it's between y'all and there's nothing that can be done about that shit, I'm not about to play the hero and try to tell you which way for you to go. So you just turn on me because that's how you use your words wisely. Like it's hard to be somebody that got, you know,

did a whole bunch of shit watching a whole bunch of 20 year old 22, 23 year old motherfuckers do exactly what you know you're not supposed to do what you're not supposed to say, how you're not supposed to conduct yourself and you be the one to be like hey y'all niggas need to stop doing that so they could just be like shut your dumb ass up and hit me

over the head with a club because as much as people think Chuck English is cool somebody will try me like I don't think shit is sweet nobody's exempt yeah I don't I ain't never thought that the shit people said about me held any sort of water Like I'm gonna just wake up and be the same cool motherfucker I've been trying to be my whole life

And but that doesn't you know what I deal with the cool kids all the other shit man somebody A come and hit me over the head with a brick bro and it's over with and I ain't even see it coming So it's like there is no there's no honor there's no honor in that No it's like what point was I trying to make y'all was gonna fuck y'all shit up anyway And I stood up and said what for what? So it's like you could leave by exactly example and I think that that's the most important part like me and him talking about it or us being on a no jumper podcast talking about some real shit when people like sometimes come to no jumper like what's what's the niggins gonna say today. You know what I'm saying? Like that's the only thing

I feel like on some big hummy shit big hummies can do like I feel like I feel like that I feel like that's why not the youth don't really like respond to TI like that. You know what I'm saying? It's some social shit happening. T.I. running on the scene. Everybody like yeah gee. See, but it's different because, you know, I think that's what Nipsey embodied. Yeah. Was, you know, my example. For me, he was like the nigger like, damn, this is a nigger from this neighborhood. But my nigger, he's doing business.

He's buying out the blocks. He's making dope music. Everything that he's doing is just official. And he's moving the right way. And that made, you know, me as a street nigger be like, okay, I need to go this route. It's cool to have businesses. And, you know what I'm saying? Like, I first heard of Bitcoin from Nip.

Like I didn't hear from nobody else. You know what I'm saying? And I, you know, even when he died, my nigga, I don't think people understand how much power for his enemies to come to his, to, for him to say, we're about to have peace. And, you know what I'm saying? They're walking together and stuff like that. Like the shit like that don't happen in Los Angeles. You know what I'm saying? So it's up, it's up to us to do this shit.

And the fuck of the shit about the street thing is, too, it's like, you can have problems with niggas your whole life. But you go to jail and a race ride happens, y'all two have to help each other, which is the fucking craziest shit. You know what I'm saying? The same nigga that y'all was, you know what I'm saying, beefing with on the streets, y'all niggas got to help each other. If a race ride happens in jail or y'all niggas getting got. So it's the dynamics of it, and that's why it's a trap. Like, this shit is, it's crazy. And that's kind of what happens to people, though, is that there's no, like, outside enemy to focus on.

Like, when you, if black people felt like they were at war with, like, an outside. force that they could all team up against then that would be beneficial because that with the dynamic you're describing happens in prison where people are sort of forced to stick together but it's like it really is like an issue of creating that that urgency

for young people because really a lot of people are organized and thinking in that way of like wanting to better the community and stuff it's just that then we tend to our eyes gravitate towards the kids who are in gangs and who are fighting and who are beefing and shit because reality is that that is where the attention

goes more often than not. It's just easier to pay attention to, and it's more alarming to pay attention to the shit that is going wrong than the shit that is going right. So it's like, we are talking about these people who are fucking up, but then at the same time, I mean, when you look at like hip-hop as a whole, there's a lot of artists out there right now who you'll never hear any fucking gangster shit about, you'll never hear any violent shit about. There's clearly space for that within the music, you know? Yeah, and it's like, are you guys familiar with watchmen? I haven't started it yet

But I know exactly I know exactly what's about Not the show The show is dope as fuck though on HBO Are you talking about the movie? The movie I haven't watched the movie I don't want to spoil it

But basically it I don't want to spoil it You can give me the cliff notes I Basically like this fucking This guy that's part of them They're supposed to be the good guys and shit And he's like look

Basically he's like All the motherfuckers in the world are beefing and we having all these riots and everybody's killing each other for religion and all these reasons. He's basically like, I'm going to make a common enemy. You know what I mean? So this nigga like drops a giant

squid on the fucking, I think it was New York City and it killed millions of people. You know what I mean? Oh, I watched the show. This sounds fine. Yes, the movie is fine and you got to watch the show. The show deals in the aftermath of that. Oh, shit. That's how that plays out. It just goes to show like

people will only come together. saying basically like people only come together when they have one common enemy right and I feel like even like now it's like people especially minorities motherfuckers has made Trump the motherfucker the bad guy and this is like blacks and Hispanics are just like like neck and neck now which is dope as fuck you know what I'm saying but it's like we made a common enemy right of Donald Trump yeah because think about different times of society like when World War II was going on it was very easy to look at Hitler and look at the Nazi party and say that's the bad shit. We're all sticking together.

Not that there probably wasn't gangs and people like getting into their own shit. But like, you know, same thing with like when 9-11 happened. It was just like, holy shit, we are at war with these motherfuckers who want to bomb us. I remember that shit like that. But you know what's crazy? You would think that the coronavirus would have done that. But instead it becomes like, again, like a two-side issue. It actually flipped.

The people who think it's not that bad. The people who think it really is bad. There's no enemy. There's no face of corona. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's harder to... But you could imagine, like, okay,

if fucking ships of Japanese people showed up on our shores tomorrow and said, fuck all y'all, black, white, et cetera, you're all done. We're taking over. Japanese, we're taking over California. Everybody's going to be dripping. We're going to be teaming up. No, we are going to kill you. Camgirl better high.

She's Korean. She's Korean. A dickhead. I mean, like, you could imagine, like, some sort of situation like that where motherfuckers really would team up together. Like, I only watch a couple episodes of Walking Dead. But if there were zombies right now, I watch

7 seasons of that shit. You and some bloods are walking around shooting zombies together. I can tell you I love the blood. What's wrong with you? Look, hey, zombie show up. We're going to figure out how tight we are. But on some deep shit, it's not until we all got a common enemy. Do people see

like we are the same species? Like, we both got eyes. We both got nose. We both got ears. We come in like dogs don't be tripping You ain't never seen a pit bull Trip on a light skin pit bull They'd be fucking each other But like it's like dog species

Even the different species of dogs Like the tall one will come and fuck with the other one Like they might not fuck with a fox Or they might not fuck with a squirrel And they might not fuck with a cat But dogs got their own Community I heard they don't know how big they are

So that's why when you see like a little dog screaming at a pit bull For real? It's because the little dog doesn't understand And how funny looking this is. And the big dogs don't know how that big they are. Like they'll hop upon you like, like I had a friend with a great Dane mix. And a dog's big as fuck is like as big as the top bar to that right there.

Like just tall. And just wants to get upon you like a little baby dog. You know what I'm saying? So that could be the case. And that's like the same thing with babies, like human babies. Like you get a one year old or two year old, you put them in a room full of other one year old and two year old babies. All they want to do is play with each other. It's not until they start realizing what their parents are saying or what they said because

then they start repeating shit and then they start emulating shit and then they start wanting to be just like their parents until they rebel. A lot of times when I see on both sides of the fence, but when I see people sort of like giving their kids too much politics or too much of this like acknowledgement of racism and shit when they're young on both sides of it. Like I just, it feels like can't we just let these kids like develop a sense of the world without this understanding that they're fundamentally different. Because I see it with my friend's kids all the time

where they're fucking hanging out with other kids of different races and shit. They don't give a fuck. They don't even like understand the idea that it's a little like that I think it's in any way interesting that my fucking white five-year-old nephew is kicking it with like a fucking Indian girl every day. Like it's totally foreign to him that I thought that that was funny in any way. Because it's not like I didn't tell him.

I'm like, oh, y'all, that's mad funny. You'd be kicking it was Indian girl. But, like, he has no knowledge of the fact that her culture is fucking different than his and stuff. It doesn't seem like he even has questions about it. And, you know, like they say, hatred is taught. It's not, you're not born hating anybody. You're taught that. And it's dope.

Like, even Josh kids is like, I want to talk to AD. I want to talk to, you know what I'm saying? Like, shout to my, my white homie, Justin, like, you know, he shows his daughter. My video, who is that? That's Uncle A.D. And it's like, I feel like the time we live in now, like, you know, we don't. look at color lines the same anymore. Of course, racism is still out there. It's still fucked up. It's still

just as bad as it was. But, I mean, I feel like we're way more tolerant of that. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's not rare to have Josh's kids say, hey, that's Uncle AD or something like that. Or I can bring my kid over here. And I say, look, this is Uncle Adam. And you know what I'm saying? And, you know, we all coexist. I look forward to that. I look forward to just like introducing my kid.

just the fact that my kid will never have that moment where a black person is kind of foreign to them because me as a kid my dad always was telling me the story about one time when I was I don't know like five or six or whatever we went to a baseball game and the other team was from Lowell Massachusetts and they were all black and I was like dad like why do those kids have dirt on their face

I know is that fucked up but I really didn't know black people like that when I was like five years old so it was like an honest question but I'm very thankful that my kid will never have to have that conversation with me. It's kind of weird that my upbringing was that white up until that point. It's wild too because I went to

like I went to All Boys Catholic School in high school. I went to a very multicultural middle school in the suburb of Detroit and then went to high school at all Catholic school.

And I never forget today a buddy I'm still cool with it was a friend of his and we were somewhere and I knew that day was the test. Take everything in perspective. Because he's like, I ain't ever really seen a black person.

Only people I see is Puff Daddy on TV. And I just looked at him like, damn, that's crazy, bro. But this is my thing about, like, racism. Because growing up in Michigan, you see a whole bunch of shit where it's just like, bro, you're really not racist. You just don't know us. And there's a culture slash classism that it is. So, you know, my black hummies that play baseball,

We go to a bar to watch a baseball game We got the team hats on that we fans of That's the easiest way to make a conversation With a white man you'll never have a conversation Where is wear a fucking baseball team That he fucks with I'll be at a bathroom take I remember one time

I was in the bathroom and I had a Cardinals hat on This is like 2010 I'm looking at two Redneck white dudes But they look like they're from Missouri I'm in Chicago They're like fucking Cardinals pitching It's just trash right now

We all got our dicks out at the urinal I'm like you know make that conversation because I'm, you know what I'm saying? If I'm black and I look different in the black, not just black people, but I'm of a different culture. You know what I'm saying? Well, you're like, I don't understand them. Me having a Cardinals hat on and like looking like I was, you know, about to go to the bar to watch sports opens up that path of conversation. So in many times in different cities I've been in while traveling and touring, you know, I like to watch my sports have a beer at a bar.

I dress how I dress. You know what I'm saying? So I'll have vintage track suit on and some white man to be like, man, my dad used to have one of those. What do you do? And it's not an instant like, oh, I know you rap. I don't necessarily dress like a rapper, but I'm black as fucking as white-ass establishment. But because

you think we got something to talk about, the barrier is over with. It's the fact that they don't got shit to talk about with you, or the fact that they don't like the rap that you listen to. Or, you know what I'm saying? And they over there listening to rap, though. Like, you don't hate black shit.

I didn't see, you know what I mean? Little Instagrams, I didn't see any of these proud boys and all these alt-right motherfuckers with Jordan's on. Like, I know that shit can't be a part of the rule book. I thought your motherfuckers hated this. You know what I'm saying? But it's not that. It's, you're not familiar.

You're unfamiliar and you low-key scared of that. It's the same way around, like, anybody that comes to L.A. I didn't live in L.A. for almost 11 years now. Like, I love this city, but, you know what I'm saying? I jumped into the city instead of doing Hollywood shit. So it's like, I know where the chicken spots are. I go to get my hair cut where everybody go get their hair cut in. So I got to understand the city a little bit more.

So shit that I used to, like, not slide to or, you know what I'm saying? I might see a Mexican homie and think like, like, gee, am I even supposed to be over here? Now I understand it a little bit more. And I know that when people come here and they see, like, L.A. shit. You could be at the Dodgers game, and it could be a whole section of people that just, if you ain't know no better, you would have thought they was really on that shit. They actually just Dodgers fans. You know what I'm saying?

Like, just got a Dodgers hat on. They might have their uncle might have a loks on. They might have a long shorts, but that's how they dress over there. You know what I'm saying? If you were black from Midwest or whatever, you come over here, you might think that that's what that was. And you just don't understand L.A. culture because L.A. culture gets along with himself. You had a Rams game, you had a Dodgers game, you had a Lakers game. Moneforkers are speaking the same language no matter what they look like.

Like, at a Lakers game, regular ass, regular night at Lakers game at Stapelson. You might see 15 motherfuckers that look like Lil Rob and an autumn old school Mexican, like South Park Mexican. You'll see them standing next to a whole bunch of black dudes with purple, like, down to the motherfucking toenail. Jack Nicholson. That's a weird, but you'll see a whole bunch of white dudes and then a whole bunch of black dudes. and then a whole bunch of black dudes, and they're all wearing the same exact memorabilia.

And it occurred to me in that moment, like, oh, this is kind of the only place where you really see that, like that. Like, sports is one of the few things that can really bring people together. I live down the street from Dodgers Stadium. After Game 7, when everybody won, traffic on sunset was crazy.

And I'm talking about, like, look, it's three, it's a car full of black people right here. It's a car full of Korean motherfuckers right here. All of them got Dodgers hats on the same way. All of them tatted up. All of them looking at the car over. And then I thought it was like, looked like it was about to be tension.

And then everybody put their hands up out the window like, hell yeah. And I'm talking about cars going by dapping each other. Motherfuckers is looking at me like, we wouldn't even be doing this if the Dodgers didn't win. And I heard somebody say that. I was like, there is a unity, man. There is like, there's not as much separation as people think it's just that uncomfortability of like, I don't want to get to know this motherfucker. You know what I'm saying?

I don't like redneck shit, so I don't want to hear that shit. Or I don't like nigger shit, so I don't want to hear that shit. But actually, y'all do the same stuff. You know how many fucking redneck friends I got? That's the same exact person as some of the hood, east side, west side. Monforkers, I know they are in the same, into the same shit. You know what I'm saying? Like fishing.

Fishing is one of them things that would bring black and white people together more than anything. Because down, like the deep down, like, straight. from the ain't never left their hometown before then motherfuckers fish we should fish you know he should take me fishing all the time exhibit shout to exhibit really yeah where's he fish at he loves fish bro well where's he fish at i don't remember you don't remember like what like a you go to like a bridge or like you know like boat or like you go on a little boat yeah and nigga i didn't win fishing a couple times yeah it's a hood i'm gonna send you this this is this uh we gotta get him to take us all out together it's a channel on youtube it's like i don't think

they say hood fishermen or some shit where they just are just a whole bunch of city niggas that are fishing and that's all of their channel is about their whole channel is just bringing more people into that i've had that experience back when i used to live in queens that there was like a bridge where we were going ride these ledges on our bikes and i would just see a whole shit little black dudes fishing and i'd be like yeah i didn't know but exactly it's that it's that it's that i didn't know that little small I didn't know misinterpreted can be perceived as hate or you

You'd be like, oh, I was just a problem No, I'm not saying you but like people be like Oh, why they got, it's like one of a white dude We had a bar, I'm at some bar Some little small city hotel We torn or some shit A white dude leans over to me. He's like All these guys got these funny looking

haircuts, right? And you're looking at the NBA. Right. Everybody got a funny looking haircut. If you don't take that personally, you're like, this white man And he's seen shit. And now when he used to watch Jordan, we had baldheads. You watch Iverson, we got braids. Now you old, you 60, you a baby boomer.

You didn't mean no harm about that. But you linked over thinking that I was going to give you some insight to it. And luckily for you, I'm educated enough to be like, that man just really wanted to know what's up with the haircuts. It'd be the same thing that an old black man would have said to me at the same time. What's up with these boys and these new haircuts? But people take a different way. You get what I'm saying?

It's like the misinformation. getting misinteratively getting I feel like that whole problem is exacerbated by the fact that we all live in our own little media bubbles you know like you ever take somebody else's phone and look at Twitter or Instagram on their shit and you just realize

that like you have a version of reality in your head based on all the shit you follow but like sometimes I'll be talking about some shit and I'll be like to my girl I'll be like man this Hunter Biden shit is fucking crazy and she'll be like wait what what happened? Please don't talk about Twitter in front of me all right but

what happened? What happened? He's banned. I got hacked again. Yeah, he's hacked, right. I need to get my shit back again. Somebody out there, please reach out. But the fact that, like, I follow a bunch of these accounts that are talking about this one news story. So that becomes, like, a very prominent thing in my head that if you just didn't follow

a couple of these accounts, you would have no fucking clue. And now we all live in our own separate worlds. And I mean, this shit is, like, more polarized now than ever. Like, for instance, did Donald Trump, like, did Donald Trump win the election? Or did Joe Biden fairly win the election? And it's like, when you see it. the polls on Republicans for what percentage of them

believe that this election was stolen from Donald Trump It's scary It's like, yo, we are living in completely different realities And like, no offense to them But they're living in a fucking Fictional, made up, ridiculous

reality that is just being enabled by these fucking Republicans who just... That's like that girl, wasn't that Tommy Lauren? Yeah. Where the fuck does she live? I don't know, why?

She just always just like... Yeah, but you get a lot of these These people that they commit to the role. It's like how certain rappers are. Some of these news people, they commit to the role. Like, it's no way. And fuck that woman is that dense, bro. She doesn't go home and say that shit,

but that's what pays her bills. Exactly. That's what keeps her engagement up for them to use her for whatever message is being sent out. Like, no matter what, you know, the voter fraud shit is just like the first day I could have been like, how is it voter fraud if everybody,

he's on the same fucking ballot and one guy's fucked up and you don't think that that was the vote but everybody else that got voted in on the same ballot is cool. Yeah. It's like you just want to move the goalpost and I feel like that's where Trump's intelligence gets ahead of everybody else that's slow is that he's smart enough to know how to twist your whole perception of shit. He's been talking about this shit for two years. He told you two years ago that this election was going to be rigged.

He just been saying it because he knew he was going to get smoked. But the thing is, is that now you have somebody in a position of power who clearly cares more about his favorability or how his base feels about him than upholding the rule of law or respecting the institution of an election. Because, you know, I'm willing to take a lot of Republicans at face value that they believe what they're saying when it comes to a lot of stuff. Like, take Tommy Loren. I genuinely believe you that you think that it's important to keep Mexicans out of America. I believe that you're being sincere in that belief. But when it comes to like this shit, I do not believe for a second that she's as stupid as she's putting on. And that goes for all these motherfuckers that are lying to the world and saying that they think that the election has genuinely been stolen.

Like, you're doing this because you know people are stupid enough to fall for it. And there's a big, big fucking chunk of America who's falling in line with it. And as a result, what do we have? We have like our whole election process like completely undermined. So it's going to be hard. Like, this will probably happen forever. Every election. There will be some extent to which it just is claimed to be stolen.

And they're creating a false equivalency right now where they're saying like, oh, everybody said that the election was rigged or hacked when Trump won. It's like, yeah, some people did say that, but it wasn't like the way that the president was enabling it. And the whole fucking Republican Congress, whatever, was going along with it until recently. No, yeah. that first time when Trump won, that's absolutely true because I was watching how the media played it

and how everybody was speaking on. Because everything went from fuck to damn Hillary didn't do a good enough job. You know what I'm saying? Like that was what the narrative was put out. This time, like when you know that the people you say, like what is it called, cognitive dissonance where you tell somebody something so crazy,

for such a long time that when it gets challenged, they get defensive. Right. You know what I'm saying? It's like it's like a certain, certain parts of people's religion. You know what I'm saying? You bring up certain parts that, and you know that that's not what that translates out to, right? You know that there was only an English version of this. But they're not trying to hear it.

No, they don't want to hear that the Bible has not been in English the whole time and that it was the version you have in your house was written by a murderous, rapist, king. You know what I'm saying? So if you take all of those things and you bring it to you. somebody doorstep, they still gonna be on your head about it. Like, no, my grandmother told me that. His grandmama told him that. So you're not about to fuck this shit up today.

So if you've been thinking since 2017, 2018, they're gonna try to steal this from Trump because they don't like the way he's making America first. And it's like, you dumb asses. America's first is not healthy for us. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is a planet we got to share resources with everybody. So if they air fucked up, our air fucked up,

it's not how it works, but you can't say that. Because if you bring that up, They'll be like, what are you trying to say to me? Yeah, this whole thing where like the two sides can't agree on what's real because there's certain people in power on certain sides who are willing to just like willingly manipulate the truth. Like you got to think back. And again, it's a Trump thing when he wouldn't stop saying that Obama wasn't from America.

Like when he kept saying this motherfucker was born in Kenya and it's like you kind of can't imagine that he really was stupid enough to believe that. But you can imagine that he would have actually have like seen it as. you know, being enchanting to his base of people that were following him. He's a real estate, he's a real estate multi-millionaire, almost a billionaire. You've been selling shit that wasn't there your whole life. That's what you do. Real estate is their whole business is using verbiage that don't got shit to do with the wall.

So like I heard in some sort of sales psychological reading I was doing that when people use shit like charming or, you know, posh. or use these words that don't got shit to do with the four walls, that is the ultimate mind fuck. Because how the fuck is a kitchen going to be charming unless it's shitty? It's a little-ass kitchen. You got a little-ass stove, and we didn't give you the refrigerator.

You got to buy that on your own. That's what is being posted in L.A. right now for charming two-bedroom with the charming kitchen. So how would you not think that somebody wouldn't know how to use the verbiage, you know what I'm saying, to spin a whole base full of people? Right. That he said when he got elected in 2016, if I went outside on Fifth Avenue and I smoked somebody, I wouldn't even nobody say shit to me. And he was fucking right.

And that's the scariest shit is wrong. It's heavier than right. But that's the weird thing about Trump is that he's so charming, apparently, or he's so capable of, like, enchanting people that he does things that are so far outside the realm of what, like, us as normal people could get away with. Like, you know, if you had an issue with another rapper and instead of, like, you just started telling everybody like, you know, he's married to a guy. Like, that would be the equivalent of Trump just telling everybody that Obama was from Kenya. Like, there's no truth to it.

And somehow he still had a giant percentage of his base, believe in that shit. But it's like, we can't get away with that. I can't come on here. Like, when I was beefing with academics, I could not come on here and be like, academics is from London. Like I couldn't, it just wouldn't work. Like, at some point, people are going to check, and like, people are going to, like, 100% of the people who are watching that are going to say, Adam 22 is a goofy because he's saying from London is not true. But Trump pulled that off somehow for a big fucking chunk of time. And that was, like, really, like, the start of his, like, political aspirations.

The Q and non, one of the bigger Q&N rumors was that fucking John F. Kennedy Jr. was going to pop back up from the dead at the Republican National Convention. That shit was real, bro. That man died in a plane crash in 99. They had a whole ass dissertation about how he didn't really die, and he faked his death so he can come back with Trump and get back to people that killed his daddy. And I'm just like, gee, even if that shit was true, even if that shit was true, do you know how fucking crazy that is?

That man, so is Tupac next? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I was just about to say that. Nigger, they said Tupac has been in Cuba for, for, They said that Steve Jobs is down in South America and he just is in a wheelchair. I believe the Epstein shit, though. I think he's somewhere.

No, they definitely flush. Look. And then that shit, man, that shit is a rabbit hole. You can't never get out of us. We're going to the Hollywood pedophile cabal. You know, it's just the shit that they tell you. Like, you know, we went to the moon once, right? But then we went to the moon where motherfuckers didn't even have a smartphone yet.

and they called you from the moon and then we came back and we threw out the technology that's what they told us right I'm not equipped for the moon no I'm just saying that's this I didn't say that it wasn't real I'm just saying that that's what they told you they didn't say like

then we probably went up there and fuck some shit up and can't go back they weren't honest about it they just said they said they showed you this they was like yeah we got the technology to get up there but we threw out the technology right but we couldn't do half of the shit that it would take to get to the moon at the time.

I'm not saying it's false. I'm just saying the ability to just throw some shit out and people be like, all right, smooth. So you got a dude in a high maximum security prison. Like, I ain't been to prison, but I didn't watch enough and I got people in prison that I've talked to that are like, yeah, this, you know what I'm saying?

You ain't just doing shit without people seeing if you're that high level of a criminal. So where the fuck did he get the rope from? And where did he use a bed sheet? And weren't both of the guards asleep? It's just like a bed sheet. Hold on. Were you tying?

Like, I'm just saying that it's that easy for us to take something and not even scratch at it. Like, hold the fuck up a little bit. But I feel like that was one of those ones where it just people were so unanimously skeptical of the story that it was like everybody just became a conspiracy theory because it seemed like the version of it being a setup seemed so much more likely than the reality that somehow the guards were asleep, somehow the fucking camera wasn't working,

whatever it was. I forget all the pieces of the house. The camera wasn't working that day. Yeah. See what I'm saying? Like that day. This one. This one.

This one. This is a kid in Cuba with Pac. That one day. You know what I'm saying? And it's just like with all of the people on the log and all the people that's been involved in the easiest way they can slip that shit or sweep that shit under the rug is, all right, he's dead. It's over with.

You know what I'm saying? Like, and we just you know i don't give a i don't give a fuck about scratching into shit that i don't have anything to do with the man's dead he's like whatever version of his crime that he needed to be punished for either he's meeting his maker about it or they got him somewhere and he ain't got no freedom you ain't bawling like you was right you know what i'm saying you can't just gather up a whole bunch of young girls and hit a vacation like you you thought was your life so you're living in some sort of hell you know what i mean but it's at the same time is that's the

story they gave us. They were like, nah, like, that's actually not that possible. What else could have possibly happened? You know what I'm saying? I hate when anybody takes content away from us. Because, like, Epstein getting on the stand and like admitting all shit and like ratting out mad people and stuff, like, that is hours and hours of content that we really like would have better off than we had gone to take a look at. And it just sucks that he's so selfish that he would rather just kill himself than share with us. Or did he? At least tell us what you were doing all those years.

Yeah, yeah, or kill himself or that somebody else would tell. Yeah, maybe we can't complain. But it's like there's too many, there's too many, you know, when you're dealing with shit that people actually are getting charged with, like the, what was the, uh. His girls still. There's a big guy that was a part of a vote or some sort of magazine that just got caught up in sex trafficking today. It's all of, uh, what's the dude from?

the White House shit on Netflix, House of Cards. Kevin Space. I love that show too. But he was like Kevin Spitz. But he was like into the whole underage, you know what I mean? The Hollywood shit with underage boys and stuff. What came out about him today? I'm out of here about today.

No, no. The dude that got in trouble today was I'm trying to think some Vogue editor, I think not even put Vogue out there like that. It's somebody that was high up in some sort of fashion situation. that just got hit with a whole bunch of charges for sex trafficking. Sex trafficking, huh? He's not just grabbing a booty.

He's just like trafficking somebody? I don't need, man. It's just so wild because they throw so much news. Like, to even get back to my point, they throw so much news at you that will take, you know what I'm saying, if they were to say, yeah, the aliens came back down today and they just, nobody seen it though.

We looked out of the sky, we ain't seen it. We get on CNN and CNN got all this footage the aliens showing up. Now, nobody would be like, I don't know, fam. We would all be like, dog, these niggas is here because we see it. I'm grabbing my blammy pack.

I think the aliens. You about to shoot at the aliens, bro? You think the bullets going to go to? The aliens being around would only be able to remain non-political for so long before it starts to be like, the, you know what it's going to be? It's going to be people on the left. Like, no, we got to get along with these aliens.

And then the people on the right, like, no, we need to blow up these aliens. I don't want to be the first motherfucker. to up my shit at an alien and my bullet slow down and then start slowing down and coming back in my direction. I'm going to say, this is how we say hi. That's the weird shit is that we all assume that if the aliens show up that somehow they were that superior technology, which is like...

The movies have shown that they are way more superior in technology. Do we believe it? Like, what are the odds that we are able to just get an alien in a cage? And he can't get out of the cage. We all believe that like the aliens are going to be like somehow superpowers. are they going to have technology where they're able to melt through the steel or whatever

but don't you think if there's another planet that has aliens aren't they most likely going to be following the same laws of physics as us and maybe sort of be similar to us I think we're like I've always felt like we are actually the aliens

because look at the rest of the aliens I mean look at the rest of the earth we don't even go along with the rest of this shit we have just colonized the whole earth we got buildings and shit Like the animals was, they're chilling. I was on a golf course the other day. I saw a family of four or five deer's kicking it.

These geese kicking it. Two foxes kicking it. And I was like, Nick, where are you going to golf in the zoo? Nah, shit, Griffith Park. But I feel like we're the one sort of enabling that to be getting along. Well, at this point. Yeah, there's two foxes.

We sort of have to, like, geoengineer the system for them to get along. Because, like, at a certain point, like, a large percentage of the animals is just going to kill each other, right? But, I mean, also, at the same time, like, this whole country would be for us if we hadn't come along. I mean, I'm pretty sure it's some cities in other countries, like some Japanese cities where it's like they make great use of all the foliage and they just live underneath it. And they're like not tearing down the rainforest to build condos.

Like, it's no part of my brain that's like, hey, let's destroy a whole rainforests for a couple a little scamming ass cowdows. I just want to bring this up. Look at this meme that is actually like on my Instagram story right now that fucking kind of blew my mind when I saw this. Right now? No, I was just thinking about this earlier, but I just wanted to show you guys and just get your thoughts on it.

So it's a man who's sitting here and he's surrounded by like all the people from the Bible or whatever, like as if he went in time and it says, I'd love to go back in time and blow people's minds with my incredible knowledge. And one of the guys like in the Bible type scenes. says, but how does this internet work? And he says, I don't know. Because can you imagine? Like, if you went back in time 2,000 years, you would be like, bro, like, I'm going to tell

you all about the future. Like, we have cars. They're probably kill me. They're going to say, well, they're going to say, they let me smoke you. You're going to go back at time. You're going to say, like, we have cars. And they're going to say, how do we make a car? And you're going to say, I have no idea.

I'm going to teach him, I need a balami. What could. And a blammy pack that goes with you. Imagine you trying to explain. again to him. Like we're basically, we're functionally fucking cavemen because we wouldn't be able to explain literally anything. All the shit that's been invented over the past thousands of years, I don't know any of it. Adi said he'll meet every new species with the Blemie Pack.

Everything is Blammy Pack first. If he sees an alien, he's going to shoot it. That's all he can think about it. He said if he went back and he said if he went to the future, he'd be telling them, oh, yeah, we got blamies. That's kind of the question. If you go a thousand years into the future, are they going to have? more guns or less guns?

My nigga, they probably have guns in your fingers then. But okay, be real. In 100 years or 200 years, do you think that it's more likely that the average person has a gun or carries a gun than it is right now? Like, what direction does society go in the mad long time? Honestly,

100 years from now, I think we're going to have like supersuits and Iron Man shit that the Blamy pack is not even going to be worth it then. Because they already making these robots and these drones that can shoot shit already like I don't know like the same gun that you could have had

300 years ago is the same gun that would kill well it's not the same gun but it will kill you they had that gunpowder they sit there put some shit in the musket you ever see like a old like a movie where they're accurate about what it would have been like to use and then like pumping it like refilling it and they shoot and then it like it doesn't work

and they was literally making hand cannons like they was using cannons in war and they was like let's put this motherfucker in my hand right because it's the same mechanisms is like dropping that shit in that that is true that's dope I remember one time when I was in a I think in the fourth grade and the teacher came in the teachers about sex and shit and she's explaining condoms and I raised my hand and I'm like so like the

early American settlers in the 1700s like did they use condoms like when they were having sex like would they have used condoms you asked that at fourth grade yes because like that was they're explaining condoms to me but I'm thinking like okay this is cool like we've invented condoms, but like, what about these people we were just learning about earlier the day in class in history like 300 years ago?

And I'm like, did they have condoms then? And she's just like, yes. Next question. She just moves on. Doesn't give me any explanation. In actuality, them motherfuckles are getting to sinfully and dying from that shit.

She probably knew that my fourth grade mind was going to be like, well, if they weren't using condoms back then, why she was using them? Well, I was everybody all right then, which is not a very good argument. But she probably saw where this was going. If you think about just a

FaceTime. alone. Like, we were talking about that a long time ago, but like, now that's just like normal. FaceTime is super normal. I remember when motherfuckers wouldn't even call you FaceTime because it was like invasive. Now it's like, I don't even know people that's close to me that don't call me FaceTime. It's like a sign of respect if you call me on my phone just in case you think I'm doing some shit that, you know what I mean? I don't know when FaceTime came out and I was like, this shit's stupid as fuck. Why don't you, like, why don't you just call? Like, why you need to see them? You just FaceTime before I came in here.

I know. I'm talking about like 10 years ago or whatever when the first came out. But honestly, me talking about Clubhouse like two weeks ago was like, how the fuck could anybody possibly ever spend time on this app? And now it was responsible for the most viral conversation of the week. Although myself personally, I still am kind of baffled at the fact that people have enough free time to just be chilling on this fucking app. No, yo, that's the part that really, it is really got me.

It's like, you know, for the hummies, I know that produce, like. You know, Cardo and everybody else that's holding those beat battles. If you're making beats, you can have your earpods in your ear. If you editing something or if you're playing video games, I can see how it works. But, you know, for a lot of the people that's managers, A&Rs, people that should be on motherfucking calls, handling shit for people, it doesn't make sense to them. You know what I'm saying? Like I said the other day, the clubhouse is like, I've seen some good shit about it.

Like, I've seen the food side. I've seen the stock trading side. See, I'm only familiar with like the black Twitter side of it to be honest. You can see those conversations. I'm aware that they're probably doing other stuff, but the only part I have really seen. Yeah, like everybody had a on Jay Z's birthday. It was like Just Blaze, hip hop. Everybody was in a conversation giving out.

Because that academics one was like welcome academics to Clubhouse. Like that was the room. And I wasn't actually sure like, did he start this room and invite Meek Mill and Tori Lanes and shit or did somebody else decide to do this and just invited them I don't I don't I still I have it but I'm still like not into it I mean we could do it at some point but it's also like for me it's like as a person who creates this kind of content and this is the business and like this is what allows us to like fucking pay people and stuff it's kind of like okay that app is making it so it's hella easy for people all over the place to just record a fucking

podcast together basically like think about all the technical shit that would have had to go into that to make you know like like academics has like a streaming setup meek mill doesn't troy lane's probably doesn't like they're not fucking sitting around like at their computer with like a perfect setup and stuff but they could just do it from their phone it completely flattens the fucking playing field so that now like like you know now people who do media or people like who rap they don't necessarily need to go to mtv when you could go on a vlad or academics or no jump or whatever but now when you look at the clubhouse thing it's like there's a lot of people who might choose to use that as their medium to get their fucking information out there.

And it kind of like makes even a podcast, which is pretty bare bones compared to a TV show, feel kind of old school in comparison. Yeah, that's just that the clubhouse is, I tweeted this the other day. Oh, man. I missed my Twitter. Yeah. I said the clubhouse feels like the Popeye's chicken sandwich a little bit. Like, you know, when everybody was like losing their motherfucking minds over the

Popeye's chicken sandwich and you were like, this doesn't make sense, but you had it and you ate it and you was like, yeah, I can see how this one is going to make sense. Yeah, it's like, it's pretty good, but still like, y'all are wilding. That's what clubhouse is to me, because it's like it has really no direction

or directive. Like, you know, 21 and everybody hosting certain rooms for like a constructive debate seems like... Oh, 21 hosted it? He started that room? I think everyone that I've been in and he was like the moderator so they... I just hope that he's getting paid for I don't know where the money can come in there.

That's what I'm saying. The company, like, they need to be saying, like, we'll give you a percentage ownership or whatever because otherwise, if I'm 21 Savage and I'm going to be making content on clubhouse, like, hell, I'm going to start a Twitch channel and YouTube and do it there rather than just give this new company business for no reason. The wildest part of that whole shit was the fact that motherfuckers was selling invites. Yeah. And they're scamming the fuck out of invites.

Like they was like that was running that shit up like it was an EDD or something like allegedly I logged into my shit today and I saw that I have 3,000 followers. I haven't done anything in a clubhouse. But it must be like people sign up and they can see who's there. They can automatically follows me or some shit because but it's crazy too because when I'm looking through like everybody who I know who is on it, every single person I know who is on it is a black person who's in the rap business like pretty much. Like it's straight up like only blown like I'm pretty sure that anybody I know like I'm into

the poker world. Ain't nobody's talking about clubhouse. I'm into like a lot of different shit that nobody's talking about clubhouse. It's like hip hop

is blowing this shit. Yeah, hip hop has made it a thing because I got brought in by like the investment banking homies I got like you know my stock my stock guys. See if I was like I pay attention

to the BMX in the skateboard world if I were to bring it up to them they have no idea what I'm talking about but like in hip hop like stock makes sense because it actually comes from the tech world so that makes sense. The stock one is the same

stock one's very interesting um the hip hop one is like as much as i wanted to be involved it was listening to people talk over like how we are all giving each other we all got shit to say but you speak we rest you speak it's like uh it's like a it's like a respect level first of all big challenge in podcasting to like get that flow right yeah and it's to do it in clubhouse with so many different characters and personalities that want to be heard and the only way you know who's it's to follow that fucking light. It's not, it's just not like, I respect it, but it's not practical for me

because I like to listen. And when people are talking, like, I'm a listener. So my purpose there is to talk. So I'm already canceled myself up. But it is so clicky because I can't really imagine going on the app and shit, but if academics or 21 Savage had said, yo, like we're doing this room with Tori Lanes

and Meek Mill and all these people, famous as people like you should come on it i'd be like all right yeah i'll come on it for that but it's also like like that right there like you're only seeing like the early stages of this app yeah what about when they integrate video what about when they make it just so much more like that like you could just imagine what it could be as like the simplest way of like because like it's kind of crazy when you think about it like how is it any different than zoom i was just about to say it's really like a I was just about to say it. They add video.

It's literally going to be Zoom. Yeah. It's like a muted screen or a blank screen Zoom. Yeah. Well, you're just watching, you're watching because in Zoom, if you got like 16, 17 people in the shit, you're only, if they don't got their screen on when they talk, the shit light up. And it's just like Clubhouse.

And we were amazed by that at the beginning of the fucking pandemic. We were like, damn, Zoom is so tight, like the way it switches and shit. But you know what's crazy to think is that at the clubhouse office, they, they, This week had to have a meeting and probably like multiple meetings. And this is probably the only thing they're talking about on the Slack channel is who is academics? And why is he like the only thing that people are talking about when it comes to this app right now? Because it's all the people who started this app. This is like one of the biggest storylines in hip-hop.

And it's about their fucking app. And they're probably just trying to like make sense of it. Like how did this all happen? How do we make this happen over and over and over? And you want to know? It goes by what we say. People like fucking beef. Yes.

And negative shit. We like to watch the shit burn. Yeah. It's like the more controversial something, it's like the beginning of rap or it's like listening to Shep Gordon talk about how he was breaking Alice Cooper. And like he said that he booked a big shit in London and the tickets were low. So he put Alice Cooper naked on a truck and made it break down in the middle of Piccadilly Square. And everybody was just looking at that shit.

And then two days later, the fucking show was sold out. Wow, where did you hear that story? It's called Super Minch, the legend of Shep Gordon. It's a documentary on Netflix. Like, one of the better stories. I got to watch that. That's hilarious. Shepp Gordon, he's the manager of Janice Joplin,

Jimmy Hendricks, like everybody, Teddy Pendergrass, like that story that he has is one of the best of all time. But he was saying that, you know, in no short, not to short his story or paraphrase him, But what he really was trying to say is like sometimes you have to play on the human emotion. And it's easy to sell things to people with shock value because it's quick. It's like you're making a quick decision. The crazy thing would be if we found out that actually academics has ownership in Clubhouse.

And this like him. This was his new platform. Him like getting into this room and like seemingly getting berated was actually him creating a shitload of value for the company. No, I feel like the company obviously understand. now that for the past three weeks, you know, all of Twitter's trending topics are controlled by Clubhouse right now. Like I go in on a sports day. Like on a sports day, on my phone, it don't matter who's fault.

Any, anybody's phone. There's the for you and then there's the real trending. On the four of you, I have nothing but NFL teams or what some quarterback did. I'll go to the trending U.S. worldwide. That shit will be at the bottom. On a Sunday with Patrick Mahomes throwing like five times. touchdowns not too long ago. A clubhouse topic was smoking NFL topics.

So that's when I was like, all right, what was the topic, though? And it was like a sugar daddy. Like it was a whole bunch of girls telling other girls how to get a sugar daddy. And that was like one of the bigger conversations. Everybody was talking about it till the next day. But that's what's funny is like think about like a new social network and what are we going to do? What are we going to use it for? prostitution and beef.

You know they said prostitution is legal now? It is? In L.A.? Yeah, they said prostitution and fucking, um, it's something else I've seen. I don't know how true it is. A dude start rapping about pimping then? Because I was thinking about how... Basically, you're not going to go to jail no more if you prostitute. Right. I got to look at the same, if you really think about it, like

the only fans model has kind of normalized that. It's not prostitution. It's not, but I'm just saying like... A meet-up function where you could like trade money and, like, create like a moderate. like there's like a part-time job you can have where you're an only fan sex moderator so if two people want to meet up you are the moderator

you show up you wait outside the hotel room so that if he kills her she's got you to watch out for I'm the pimp like Uber like Uber for a security guard but you don't have to be any special type of security guard you're just a guy who like waits outside the hotel room to make sure she don't get killed but what do you do if she does get killed I guess kill him right or like at least that got dark

so you're a pimp So basically your point was the whole time is you're a pimp. He's talking about the only fan's a moderator. No. It's a pimp. No, but I'm saying like how that, how that made that shit normal. And then the fact that it's 2020. And after the summer, they literally said in the state of Oregon that all illicit drugs are criminalized.

Like all of them. That's exciting. I mean, it is just the point that they. had to get to. It's like y'all motherfuckers just gonna keep doing this shit and not care. We might as well make it legal. Makes no fucking sense for us to continue to spend all our time trying to get rid of this shit that clearly

nobody is going to ever stop. No. Like to make it illegal just seems like kind of besides the point. No, yeah. Making a lot of things I could see where illegal has a lot to do with people's morals

where their morals stood when they were writing this law. But at the same time i was going to bring this up earlier it's like the some some politician that was anti-gay i forgot which country he was in it was like maybe i don't even want to speak on it it just happened like last week he was super super anti-gay on like fuck gay marriage fuck all this shit and he got caught in a gay orgy oh yeah i saw that but i didn't click it yeah like there's been so many times where like religious figures or all these people

that stand on this moral high ground and they only do that because they hide in something like in my whole entire life like I got gay friends I hate saying that because it sounds like I got black friends but I didn't never give a shit because it's like I got homies that like none of the big

girls that's just not what I like but you're gonna do you're gonna do what you want to do but to um to what I was saying like the the pastors and you know certain preachers that get on this hill and you know

say all of this different shit about what God said and what the order is and man should only lay with woman right only for two years later for them to have some text messages when they sending dig picks

to young dudes or you know what I'm saying it's like when I was like that was like the Eddie Pastor Eddie Long the dude bro I was going to say like I swear to God I wasn't going to say it on here

when you were telling me you went to all Catholic schools I was just one of I was like, did somebody ever come on to Chuck English before? No, hey. It's way more likely if you were in the Boy Scouts. No, the only time? It's like they have like a hundred times more lawsuits against the Boy Scouts.

Boy Scouts are flunked up. Do they have Boysout cookies? Then the, no. The Girl Scout cookies is fired. No, then the church. Like the church shit seemed crazy. All these priests molesting boys and boys and stuff, apparently it's like a hundred times worse. Yeah, and the Boy Scouts is way worse.

I was listening to the whole podcast about the other day. Yeah. What I was going to say is when I was growing, when I was coming up, like, you know, I have friends or whatever. And I wouldn't know that they were, you know, I know they were gay. Sure. And no guy that I know that, like, just loved women and had nothing in them that might have felt gay, ever said anything disrespectful or slighten them or marginalized them. I never saw that as different because I just, you know what I'm saying? That's just not my speed.

But the dudes that, you know, was super banging on gay dudes and saying all the wildest shit, you know what I'm saying? Five, six years later. You know what I'm saying? They're a winner in their mouth. No, they actually are, you know what I'm saying? They actually are that. And was that the whole time? And it's like, you know, I forgot what city was.

It was like a Michigan city where, like, a coach was real anti-gay. Gay kid was on the team and all this shit. kind of forced the gay kid to leave. The kids wasn't as bad to them. But, you know, three years later, you know, this prominent coach, his wife goes through his text messages, and it's nothing but doinks. You know what I'm saying?

We need, and you should be the one to help usher them in, but we need the first L.A. gangbanger gay rapper. I knew he was going to say this. No, but just find some kid and just help, like, bow him up. Like, I don't know. That would be so big. Like, if we, like, because you told me that, like, the gangs are like one of the few things where it's just gay people.

People don't seem like they're allowed in. So, I mean... No, no, no, no, no, no. They're undercover. There's a lot of gay undercover gang members. And those are usually some of the most dangerous ones on top of the head. They're going to shoot your boots off. No, not.

What's wrong with you, man? It's 2020. We don't need to open up that. No, no, no, no. You're trying to open up. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. That's like, too, Ray J was like, get with my homies that like, niggas,

they put it right up ass. He was like, I know he said, I'm going to get. The booty goons. Then the booty goons. But come on, they still goons. Nah, but look, check it out. If you've, if you privy, wasn't nobody else watching the wire thinking that Omar wasn't common, though. That's, that's, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, nobody was acting like, wow, this is insane. Some of the, some of the most cleanest street fights where somebody got their ass what was so cold was somebody trying to press a trans woman. like a, you know what I'm saying? Good nigga type. Try to press a trans woman. Got your ass handed to you. You know what I'm saying? Like, and not even a flight or flight.

Not a flight or flight. What's that shit called? Flight or fight. Not like a response ass whooping. Like, like, walked your ass down to the ground asswop. You know what I'm saying? Like, your sexuality don't have shit to do with your toughness. Which of you were being man enough to admit that you got beat up by a trans person?

If I got beat up by it? I got my ass who up. I got my ass whip. I got my ass whip. Like a trans person? If you get beat up, you get beat up. I don't mean that they're not strong, though? Did that really happen, though?

I was just kidding. No. No. I'm just saying. I've seen a gay nigga whoop like three homies ass before. And I was like, whoa. No, that's the first misconception that you have about. Gay niggas got hands though.

Human sexuality is really on a spectrum, bro. Like, it's not just light or dark or gay or straight. It's preference down to personality. So if you grew up one way and you, you know what I'm saying? the same shit happened to you as a motherfucker that was tough, who you want to fuck don't got shit to do with how hard you're going to swing your hand or how quick you'll get to a gun.

That's real. And that's been the, like, that moral high ground that the church would use and, you know, gay people are, you know, less, or less manly than, you know, regular men is only... The stereotype. Yeah, only till you figured out that, like, you know, some of the most manly, masculine images

you've been pushed have been from a gay man. You know what I'm saying? Like Tom Selleck. Like Magnum P.I., bro. You get what I'm saying? Like, when you think about, like, those burly, most of the times, that's what, you know what I'm saying? That is the person that is gay,

that you were getting your super mass machismo from. Like, he sold it to you. So are you pissed now? You get what I'm saying? Like, it doesn't, that type of shit I had never thought was even something that you could pour in a cup to hold water. Because you can get your ass whoop by everybody. But for you to think that, you know,

because of someone's attracted to something that you're not attracted to that you can whip their ass, is the misconception you're going to walk into and get fucked up every single time? My nigga, look at the scare, look at the shit I showed you on YouTube. The most insane prisoner of all time. What did he say? He was like, yeah, I make them my man.

They're like, are you gay? Oh, you talk about the dude in jail? Yeah, he's like, no, I'm not gay. He's my woman. Just be glad that that's not normal in America. My nigga, that nigga, that's crazy. Oh, yeah. He said, what happens if they don't want to be with you?

I killed him. Wouldn't it be so awkward if we had to deal with that kind of shit in the streets like where it was just normal for like a rapper to just have some other rapper and he just bangs him in the ass and then we all like, he just puns them out and then we all got to know about it. Jesus Christ. He's putting it in the music and shit. He's like, I banged your little homie in the ass. Ha-ha.

But what is the, listen, what is the scariest thing for? I can't believe we even are here right now. No, but you think about it. Why? Wait, wait, wait a minute. Why are people, young guys in the hood are afraid to go to jail? Because they don't want to get raped. Like, when you're little, you'd be like, I don't want to get raped.

And the actuality of it is you're going to go to jail. It's going to be someone that's a gang member that's been in jail for probably 40, 50 years that'll probably rape your ass. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And that's like, like, so it's crazy. But when you were a kid, that's like, oh, I'm not going to steal this candy bar because I don't want to get raped.

No, you don't remember. I was like that. I don't know. Adam, you around my age. You don't remember Scared Straight 99? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that kept me out to doing a whole bunch of shit. That's true.

You don't remember that? When that older white man, he had longer hair. He was like, I'm going to befriend you kid. He's like, I'm going to take care of you, kid. I'm gonna get you a smoke when you need a kid. Right. And then right when you need me, he was like, I'm gonna fuck you kid. I was like, gee, I don't want no parts.

I think I, like, just willfully, like, sort of turned my head and didn't pay attention to that. When I was stealing candy bars. I had a homie tell me a story about him getting, like, someone tried to rape him, bro. And that shit stuck with me for a long time. Really? Yeah. Swear to God. This nigga, like, no one has ever, like, blatantly came out there and she, oh, yeah, I got, I hear stories.

And I know, like, all through the years. But this guy, he told me, like, Homeboy, he was. like nigger he said he went in the holding tank and he was in there for like maybe talking to these same guys for like three to four hours and he just thought that they was super cool he said out of nowhere one of them niggas is hit him in the back of the head you know what I'm saying and tried to like drop him and they all were trying to grab him to like hold him down and he said that he was just he was just swinging and and clawing away for his fucking life bro that's sure no there's a harm I said, you haven't trust somebody after that.

No, but he said luckily the fucking guards came and took him out of there. But he was like, I was talking to these guys for like three to four hours. And they just did that shit. It was an old, like I go on YouTube and watch all these OG stories, all these things that you know, certain movies are based about

or all these characters and certain neighborhoods just to know that story. And this one old Detroit gangster come, I forgot the name of, but it was around the time way before, BMF, it's like the 70s and shit. And he was like, it was one time. And he said he'd been in jail maybe

eight or nine years at this point. And they, they have a movie night. And then all the prisoners got to watch the movie and it was somebody that like 40 niggas had dibs on. Oh, man. And he said that they caught him, they knocked all his teeth out so the shit

was smoother. And that was when I changed it. I was like, whoa. Whoa. I was like, yeah, that was the, that was, that was like take a note put that in the music no don't do not put that into that but sit i didn't even have to finish the story just for us to know like how severe of a violation you know what i'm saying like and if that shit don't keep you out of jail bro i don't want to be around nobody that's laterally thought about yeah we're going to watch this movie and then me and you we could share dude gums you know what i'm saying like oh no sweet jesus yeah no yeah yeah yeah yeah we went uh

We actually hit 2.20. That's dope. We were really doing, we was doing good to the last four or five minutes in this car. And we started talking about prison sucks. Now you're thinking about gums now. Oh, no. Oh, shit. Oh, man.

I was trying to, Jesus Christ. But you ever do that? Like, you ever actually get hit from a person that had no teeth? No. You said get hit on by a person that had no teeth. No get head from a person that had no teeth. Because you always would hear about that hypothetically. Why are you looking at me?

What? I'm just wondering. Like I was getting my dicks up and crackheads I mean you've got some grimy stories I do but I ain't do that But I have some friends that have That's what I'm saying You wanna know the wildest shit I seen

It better not be no gum sex But no like and this is so bad And I didn't understand this shit This got real Howard's turnish This is like this is like the wildest shit That I've seen it's not even like crazy But it's the wildest shit I seen the hood It was I remember this fucking white girl

I don't know where she came from she had to be at least at the time 25 or 26 or something like that right apparently she's on drugs my nigga she would let like all the homies from all around content just like

fuck her and I'm literally watching some of our homies fuck her taking turns and they're like socking her in the back of the head bro and I was just like they're like yeah you want you want to hit this I'm like but she didn't want any money for her in this she didn't want no money she was just doing it and she would go to the next

But that shit was like, scarier than PCP. If you meet a girl like that. I was like, what the fuck? If you meet a girl like that, see, this is the thing. I remember back in high school that you would always hear stories about like, oh, so-and-so, this girl sucked off these three dudes behind the bleachers or some shit. Or I remember there were these two hot-ass twins when I was growing up in a bunch of BMX dudes. I knew they were hanging out of these dirt jumps in the woods, and these two girls just came

through and sucked off all these dudes who are riding bikes at these chairs. I was so mad that I wasn't there that yet. But either way, all I'm saying is if you're a young dude, and you got a girl like that around town, don't publicize it or talk shit about it. You need to foster her because you just don't make her feel bad about herself because then she's going to stop doing that shit. But it wasn't the fact that they were like running the train on her.

They were just like socking her. So that was the weird shit to me. It's like my niggins, she has bruises on her head and y'all asking me, do I want to have sex with her? Man, but you were just sparking on my memory. You used to be this girl that used to come to the house and just fuck everybody. And she'd be telling, like, I remember one time, like,

my random homie was there. And she wanted to suck him off. She's sucking him off. And she's telling him, like, you know, smack me in the face. She really wanted to get beat up bad. I don't think she wanted to get punched. Bro, but it was, she shouldn't have come around the Crips. No, bro.

But that shit was, like, so wild to me. Like, maybe I would have did it if I was, like, first. But not like, I'm just saying that's a little. This full circle. I'm not talking about hitting her. I'm talking about, like, being in a line to hit. because, you know, as a young boy, you want to get some ass, you know what I'm saying?

But, like, when I see my homies just taking turns and just socking in the back of the head, I'm like, this is not sexy. As a 37-year-old, I can agree. I don't want to do that. No. If I was 18, I'll probably be in there. My whole life, though.

My whole life, you know what I mean? I don't know if this is an unspoken-on thing, but, you know, inner city or whatever. Like, boys get into that shit. I remember the first time somebody told me about a train, and the only thing I could think about was so all y'all niggas just standing there and they was like

you see it in porno so it's just regular yeah but like I thought about I just thought about like just hearing how they would say shit like nah so we'll stand outside the door and then they'll go in the door

and then we'll knock when it was our turn so I'm like so y'all just standing in line like dicks out just yeah just like that shit is smooth it's weird it's weird bro you never do that listen

Put him on the spot No, no, no, no, no. But this is, it reminds me of my little brother. I never forget, I was a, I don't know where the fuck I was. But somebody, like, you know, they got something called a little hood holes, you feel me? And everybody was laughing at my little brother's stroke, because he ain't never really got no ass before.

So he's in line with like nine homies and they're all hitting the same girl. Oh, hell, no, I'm losing my bonner. I'm starting to start making fun of my stroke. But my little brother, my little brother gets in there. And I just remember coming back to the block and everybody's like, ah, your little brother got no stroke. And he's embarrassed because, you know what I'm saying?

And the bad thing is, like, you guys all just hit this same girl. Yeah. But he was little. He wasn't getting no ass or nothing like that. You feel me? He probably was like 15 or something. I mean, I just feel like that's a part of your youth

that you should have on your own. You really shouldn't have your basketball hummies watching you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, figure that shit on your own. Yeah. Do it in the lab. Maybe if you want to take it out to the public at some point. If I'm first and everybody go after words, then that's different.

I don't want to like. But you're not the first. No, I'm just not. No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, if all of us are right here and I'm like, okay, I get the, if I know she's going to fuck us all, okay, I want to hit first because like, I don't want to fuck her after you didn't did something with her. You know what I'm saying? I just don't want to do anything that involves your sweat. No offense. And you're like, you're a good friend of mine and shit.

But if you were like sweat. Like if you were just like, you know, boost or if you were just lifting some weights. And you're sitting in a chair. This is like 18, you're 17 year old. But if you're sitting in the chair and there's a little bit of your sweat on the chair, I'm not sitting in that chair. So the idea that your dirty dick sweat is you all. Why should got to be dirty? And you're just, and you're, seem like a pretty clean guy.

But I'm saying. This is how y'all's conversations go. Sometimes we get here. He said, I don't want you. I ain't even go repeat it. Ironically, I have to go be a dad. Good. It's time.

Yes, it's going to go to a gangbang, but instead I'm going to go be a father. Gang bang, gang, man. Yo, I wish that we could play music. That's the perfect one to take us out right now. Smokey, Smokey, take it away. We shouldn't explain much earlier that house phone hit me up like 20 minutes before this podcast and said he was sick. Yeah. But the Chuck was going to be here anyway.

Because otherwise it would have just been me and you talking about butthole sweat. At least we started off. At least we started off well. This is how I was good. This is dope. No, the duality of it was amazing. I think we solved all the society's ills in many ways. We talked about racism, prison sex.

We talked everything. Gangbangs? Median gangbanks. Sex culture. What is this gangbanging? You don't know. You don't know if smoke you're on some? Oh, yes, bro.

I let that shit go in my eye, pause, and then I literally was like, I didn't see that. Oh, man. I didn't see that. It's very amazing. Did I show you it or did you already know about it? I showed you that. Oh, okay. No, I knew about from Twitter, yeah.

I'm just trying to figure out the conversation before. Like, did Smokey come up with that? No, you showed me the spoken word version of it. Yes, that's what you really understand it. He went on a deaf comedy, uh, poetry shit. And he did it. I can pet, like, tricking that wine. But, yeah.

Doing that time. It's weird because this was so early in, like, this was so early in hip-hop that it was like, oh, you're like a famous, like, you know, soul singer, but you could still maybe do like a. rap song, but, oh, we're going to make it positive? Did you see Smokey Robertson? And it was like, it wasn't obvious enough that that was a bad idea. Bless his soul, because I love that man.

But Smokey Robinson, somebody paid him to do a cameo. Oh, no. It was like a Jewish dude that wanted Smokey Robinson to say happy Hanukkah to his mother. And Smoky Robinson said, happy Chinaka, whatever that means. And I was like, bro. And then he's like, that's cool. That's cool. You know, Chana, he just kept repeating it.

I'm like, Doug, 2020 is glitching. It's fucking glitching. When you watch people do the cameos that clearly don't give two fucks, it's amazing. I do great with cameo. I imagine you trying, and that's why I'm not interested in seeing it. But with the Smoky Robinson one sounds amazing. I hit up hip-hop Harry for Yazzie. I know.

That was dope. You imagine hip-hop Harry's just hanging out all day doing that? You can cop a cameo from him. You can cop a cameo from him. I did him with a show. He tried to do one with his co-host Yassi basically like acknowledging that she had sex with him. He was like trying to have hip-hop hair. He said like, I really enjoyed the time that we spent together.

Me and Josh had to edit it like four times. It was like, okay. You cameos is a dirty game because when I'm talking to dogface, I realized that he had to stop doing it or he had to get real careful while he does it because he would just have businesses trying to get him to do it. And even one time I did a brand deal for these fucking. Janky ass headphones right and it was like on my snapchat saying like oh I love these headphones these is fire go to this address blah blah blah they made a fucking ad out of

it and we're running it on snapchat and Instagram and shit I had everybody hit me up for a while thankfully they stopped doing it but it was like I got paid like four thousand dollars to do this ad on my story for this fucking ad or for these headphones and then they're gonna run that shit on Snapchat for forever like dog face out of those issues yeah because they probably use his shit and running a whole another commercial Yeah, you pay $100 to get him to give you a shout out. And then it's fucking Harry's weed lounge is just using, oh, yeah, the spot that dogface sponsors or owns or whatever.

It's like, no, he fucking did a cameo one time. That's actually smart, smart, right? Yo, for him, he had to chill. The cameo company people, though, they snapped because how the fuck do you just sit back one day? Like, yeah, I got it. We're going to have people pay people to just say shit to them. Yeah.

Like, I was thinking about paying the office people, like Kevin. How much Kevin charging? I think he was like $500. It's worth it, though. Jesus Christ. What? He only wants $500. That's what I said.

I do that shit. Oh, so that's the business model. I want to look like Kevin. Like, I want him to put the suit on. He talks and his shit. Oh, that's fine. That's what I'm saying. No, that's, it's crazy how I went from being skeptical to being sold in 2.2 seconds when

you were like, oh, you can get motherfuckers from the office to say shit too? See? Yo, I bet Debo was on there before he passed. I wonder how much he was charged. Probably. He just seems like the kind of guy that definitely would have been getting the Cameo bag. Bro, the whole office is Cass is on there except fucking Jim, Pam, and Michael Scott.

Everybody else is on there. Really? Yes. Steve Carroll, what a fucking elitist fuck. He won't be on cameo with the people. I heard them, they're bringing it back, though. I'm happy. I don't want them to bring it back.

No, not a show. They're making a Michael Scott movie. Like, he, his, what's his action movie? Michael Scorn? Threat level midnight. Like, becomes very successful. And the premise of that is to bring, like, like it's a movie. Like, they're bringing the office movie back.

You remember how they had the Flintstones meet the Jetsons? Yes. What if they did, like, the office meets Seinfeld? I think it's too late for that. The office meets 30 Rock. That would be easier. I don't feel like, I don't feel like Seinfeld's jokes. I feel like, I feel like the Seinfeld.

The office meets Atlanta. Ooh. That'd be crazy. The office meets Friday. That's what this office is like when you pull up. The office meets Friday. That's like no jumper is now. When the office meets Friday.

Damn. Yeah, I came over here and bought some different flavor. Some sprinkling. Some blammies. It's a lot of more blammys around. Damn, I can't go be a dab. Hey, full circle to the blammy pack. This is a good one.

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