No Jumper - The No Jumper Show Ep. 93 with Marisa Mendez

Episode Date: May 5, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Like a literal pie of mud? Before colonoscopy or just in general? I know you can't in general. We are alive? I mean, all I'm saying is that we shouldn't assume that house phone is dead again. Just because he's three minutes like. Because last time we scared everybody and, you know, like his one Instagram photo became like an RIP post with like a million comments.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Like, are you dead? Are you okay? It's kind of weird for him and his family, I assume. I think I kind of insinuated a little more. That was my first experience with him. went missing. And be an MIA. I was trying to be a good friend, make sure he was alive.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Right. But being a good friend to him for a long time, it's kind of like showed me that he will frequently like probably disappear and that you just won't be able to have any control over it. Something I have to accept in your friendship. You know, you accept your friends for being drug addicts. You accept your friends for being alcoholics. I'm not, why would you say this?
Starting point is 00:00:54 You ended up in the hospital from energy drinks and alcohol the other day. And you made a video about it. That was last week, man. Move on. You didn't like the video? Look what I got now. You changed. Three small ones.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Wait, but did you not like that we clip that? I liked it. You did? Yeah. Does it hurt that we have 3.6 million subscribers and only 50,000 and watch the video about you saying why you almost died? I mean, hey. Maybe they didn't want to hurt themselves by seeing something so sad.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Maybe they didn't want it to affect their own drinking. See? There's other reasons. I mean, if it was me, I would click over it too. Like, I don't hear this. I would. You're supposed to care about you. Like, they got to care.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Although I think that at one point when we first started fucking you, we clipped like a part of it and it was like AD talks about selling $30 dick or some shit. What? And yeah, because he used to be a... I used to sell his body. Spoiler. Tell your dick. Yep. And whatever works for you.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Are those cherries? Yes. And then I have a lemon on this side. Fire. Thank you. Wow. That's hot. That's hot.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah, thank you. See? He started off early. I'm trying to like think of all the things we got to tell you about ourselves, like such as the fact that we just say everything's hot. It's kind of where we're at now in terms of like our own personal like trends in terms of like our own slang and humor. It's hot has really kind of taken over our vernaculars lately.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Shout out to Paris Hillen because that's the, well she was that's hot. Well, that you did say that time. That's hot. Yeah, a lot of people compare it to her. But to me it's really like too much of like a us being gay thing to compare it to Paris Hilton. Like she's a woman saying sincerely that she thinks things are hot. Us, we're kind of like sarcastically saying things are hot that are actually not.
Starting point is 00:02:31 So does no one like my earrings then? Where are we on the scale? No, those are cool. Yeah, I meant it. Yeah, no, you're right. No, I like them too. But usually when we're saying it, it'll be like, somebody will say something that sucks, and then we'll kind of be like, that's hot.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Okay, introduce yourself for the people who don't know who you are. I'm interested to see where you take this. I'm Marissa Mendez. I have a lot of titles. I don't identify with most of them. So I don't know how to categorize myself, but I've been on the Joe Biden podcast, Hot 97, my own podcast. I write books and shit. I do mad shit.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I don't know. You have a lot going on. We've been talking about having you on the pod for a while. Literally for like a minute. You and I have talked about it too. Right. Here we are. Finally.
Starting point is 00:03:16 It's like it kind of works out well that House Fund may or may not be alive and is not here. And you just happen to be here with us. If it was all four of us, number one, he starts going overboard when there's girls here, and I feel like he might just kind of like trip out and just not be able to handle himself. You think so? I don't know. When he sees a girl for the first time, sometimes his brain is a little. He just can't think right.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And I don't know. I don't know if this would happen there. But I could see him kind of like seeing you and like all of a sudden he just starts acting crazy. I can see that. I have a tendency to do that to people. Do you? Not really. I just feel like saying that.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Sounded good. That's hot. You know what? It's crazy and I'm really embarrassed to admit this, but I went back and I listened to the first ever episode of the JPP yesterday. You were telling me that earlier and her, my girlfriend, Sasha, that's here. I love Sasha. I love Sasha too, so she's my friend. That episode specifically, we were like reliving that moment today because the stories we were telling, it was like from a club that me, her, and Joe had gone to.
Starting point is 00:04:16 What rapper did you, were you harassing at that club? I don't even remember. You don't remember or you just don't want to admit it because they- I mean, it's just like old. They probably haven't been popping for five years. They have been, actually. He's a friend of mine, so I don't want to just be like annoying and weird and shit like that. But yeah, it was a homie and it was, I wasn't harassing.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Joe has a way of, like, sensationalizing everything. We're still cool with me in that person. So if I was really harassing, I guess we wouldn't be still cool. Right. That was interesting because listening to that, it's like, that's kind of like an earlier era of podcasting where people got on a podcast and thought that, like, your job, on a podcast was basically to just like analyze going out literally we had no idea what we were doing and just and you know that's like an early thing people do in podcasting is they basically get
Starting point is 00:05:04 really into talking about like the politics of being a thought oh yeah that was like for me even for me too like I mean that's always been a part of it like everybody fucks we all we're all in this industry everyone looks good we're gonna fuck and I've always told like funny stories because I usually end up in stupid-ass situations and they're fucking hilarious so I like to share them and so that became kind of like my main thing on that show but then it became all that it was which was super annoying because I'm not that's not and it was supposed to be funny I'm sharing those stories so y'all laugh and it was coming back like I was sharing it for cloud it just was coming back to me not the way I was putting out in the world and it wasn't a good balance
Starting point is 00:05:42 listening to that first episode it kind of made me realize that uh Joe probably has gone through a similar thing that I've gone through, which is where if you are out being a thought, which I guess I'm just not a thought anymore, so this is an easy decision to make, but you really don't want to be like airing out the details of your sex life in detail on a podcast. It doesn't really end well. It doesn't. It doesn't bode well at all. And for both of, it was just a learning experience for both of us because I'm literally just going there doing what I would do like with my friends. And then I'd be getting people angry at me and shit like that. And I'm like, fuck, this isn't, this isn't, this isn't worth.
Starting point is 00:06:19 working well at all. Like it just wasn't and then it just, I don't know, we learned as we were going like you said early era. We didn't know what the fuck we were doing. Because when you think about a podcast, you know, that just seems like that's something that people got to get out of their system is that they're really, really amused by their own social lives and their own like hookup lives. And as time goes by, that kind of just seems a little bit less compelling. I haven't done my own podcast in like a year just because I'm like, I don't want to share anything I'm doing. I like it just being for me and I don't have much to share with y'all. And I just kind of chilled out on it.
Starting point is 00:06:51 That's one weird thing about having a kid is that it's like one thing that I don't feel inclined to make content about. You know? Oh, your kid or? Yeah, my kid. Like, you know, I very easily could. I know that if I put the kid in the YouTube thumbnail or whatever, I could probably get. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:07:08 I'm not saying I'll never do it. But it just like you're so in the moment of doing it and it takes such focus to pay attention to your kid that the idea of like documenting it just doesn't. I'm documenting what the fuck I'm doing like every other hour of the day. Yeah, and you've been doing it for many years. So to have something nice for you and just that's your moments with your family. Like it feels good.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah, I definitely think that that's like but then I, you know, I see these YouTuber families. Dog, that shit is, and they make a lot of motherfucking money. My daughter loves watching a bunch of them too. Yeah, all the kids, like my friend's kids, I always end up fucking, so annoying, by the way, those YouTube videos. I hate them so much.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Really? But those people make a lot of motherfucking money, bro. That's what I hear. I can't do it. I can't be that happy on camera. They're all like, oh, hey, everybody! Today we're fucking making slime and killing each other. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Like, come on. I can't. I don't. Just do not. Like, do miss me with that shit. I hate that. I don't like hosting things either. Like on camera hosting.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Like, interviews are different because you're just having conversations, but on camera hosting, you got to turn on that same way. You mean like hosting like a concert or something? Yeah. Backstage video stream or something. Yeah. Hosting the streams for Revolt all the time. Like, you really, that's like, you literally have to dip into
Starting point is 00:08:18 some different level energy and bring it out for the camera. It's not. And that's why I think people don't understand how hard being a Twitch streamer or whatever is. You basically have to be your own hype man for all these hours. And if you stop for five minutes, they're gonna fucking leave. And it's just like the hardest thing in the world. And it's the one thing that everybody seems to think is really easy and like not that difficult. I try to be for a second.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Twitch. Yeah, I was like, but you have to have like a regular schedule. Kind of like TV. I was like, I can't keep up to schedule. What can you do on Twitch? Like, just play video games? Or there are other options? You can do anything.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I see people do makeup. Some people just give people like financial advice and stuff. It's all type of things you can do. I don't think I'm interesting enough to see. I play poker on Twitch and it works good because that's like kind of where the whole community is. There's all these other people who play Twitch poker and like, you know, they all sort of like, it's a nice community about it. And then the other day I was streaming a tournament.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I bust out the tournament. So I fucking, you can take your viewers into a raid where you basically take all your viewers and they all go to a different stream and we used to do this podcast with this girl Camgirl who's like a DJ and all this stuff. Oh, I actually know who that is. Yeah, yeah. And we're so cool and so I rated hers and it was a weird dynamic
Starting point is 00:09:30 because I'm like watching her DJ to like 100 people and then all of a sudden it becomes 600 people. And from her perspective like she seems like a little like bashful like oh my God. You know it's like fucking 600 people just walked into my living room.
Starting point is 00:09:46 This is crazy. Like that was kind of That was weird, but it made me feel really good too, even though like she's not getting anything out of it, I guess, unless they like subscribe or follow or whatever. But they could have that. It could. You know, it's like it's a weird people on to her. Just like making people see you DJ in your living room and somehow that feels like it's a nice thing to do. Yeah, that was. That's one thing I've seen like I used to watch YouTube, um, Fortnite streamers and stuff. I used to be real big into Fortnite. They would take, uh, the big streamers, they would raid somebody like a little streamer who had like 10 followers or something like that. And then they'll have 15,000 people on this.
Starting point is 00:10:19 They just go crazy, just freaking out and shit. I thought that was dope as hell. So, okay, what did you guys do this weekend? Anything that we need to talk about? I went to New Jersey for a day. Why? I just been here, stuck in L.A. for months because of COVID and shit like that. So you got away for a day?
Starting point is 00:10:34 How the hell does that make sense? I just don't like traveling for many days. I get annoyed by everything. So I'm like, one day feels bite-sized and good. So I landed 10 p.m. Saturday, spent the day with my nieces and nephews and my best friend on Sunday. left 6 a.m. yesterday and back. I can't relate. I hate traveling way too much to do. Like the
Starting point is 00:10:52 fucking pain of getting on a flight and the Ubers and the it's annoying but I don't know to me I like compress it and it's just I just focus on what I'm going to do and get it done and it. I feel you. I just hate being in motion so much it's like you have to like basically give up
Starting point is 00:11:07 two days to be somewhere else for one day. Yeah literally yeah because you lose your Saturday try especially cross country because you're starting in the morning and you end at night because you're time different You gotta have something that you can do in that moment that will like be a useful enough. Like if you had a book that you needed to read. The exact plane to the perfect place. The plane is if you're gonna be sitting in the chair reading the fucking book, maybe the plane is an okay use of that time.
Starting point is 00:11:33 But it never really works out like that, right? I never, I always bring a book. I never read my book. Yeah, I've been that guy many times. I think maybe one time I did read one, but other, I usually, I just listen to music and play Candy Crush. I know what I want to talk about. You know what I want to talk about. Go ahead, crack it on.
Starting point is 00:11:49 What does your shirt say? Compton. Where was I on Friday? Oh my God. City of Compton! Bro, stop this, man. It's been like a three, four days straight. It's all you got to say.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I haven't talked about it for a few days, so I'm actually pretty hyped to talk about it now. When I go to New Hampshire, I'm going to have the same energy. You would never go to New Hampshire. Yes, I will. I already have good clam chowder. You're shook. I like clams.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I don't think I've ever been to the state of New Hampshire. many people were to you with that with that yeah it's almost like there's no reason to go there not almost there's literally no reason to go there I'll tell you why some rappers have been to New Hampshire before we start talking about me and my time spent in Compton
Starting point is 00:12:27 basically if you're like a New York City rapper you know there's like an array of different cities and towns that you could play on the East Coast and if your fan base is strong enough you can play in Nashville now most Most rappers probably won't because it's...
Starting point is 00:12:46 Especially local, they just reach, like, Connecticut, like Toad's Place in Connecticut, and there's one other one. Right. And then, yeah. But if you were really trying to spruce up your fan base, like, I remember I used to see Flyers and be like, damn, Hell Rel is playing in Nashville. That's random as, you know. I'm literally on his page today.
Starting point is 00:13:02 That's also very random. But when I think about it now, it's either, like, they're really ambitious and they really want to spread their fan base to New Hampshire, or they're just, like, down to do another show even though they're not going to get paid as much as they probably got paid for all the other shows in their tour because it's going to be less people yeah i mean a hell rel probably wasn't like filling rooms up completely no disrespect to hell rel dipset forever but he's going to come for you for sure he's going to definitely see this and come for you but you know it's probably more along the lines of a promoter reached out and he's like fuck it why not that's a show yeah yeah as much as money as
Starting point is 00:13:36 the other show but fuck it maybe you could do the show in the same night honestly probably like if you did early show in New Hampshire, you could get to Connecticut to perform by like 10 p.m. Yeah, you do a 10 and like a club appearance at 1230 in Connecticut, boom, done. Anyway, New Hampshire, right, that's where you're not going to go because you're shook. No, but so, okay,
Starting point is 00:13:54 basically I was sued. Okay. And I was sued by a guy who was scammed in the year 2018. There's so much happening already in this story. And this is the kind of, like, just to explain this, I get DMs constantly.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Anyone who actually watches this podcast probably already knows how this works. No, just look at me. I don't know what to do it. I feel so like. You don't have to freak out every time I glance at the camera. You look at us. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I'm giving on my back. Well, that is one thing you want to be cautious of is don't point your back at the fucking camera super crazy because some people will be like AD and then they'll be like this the whole time and it's like that camera is not. You want me a home back job. She doesn't know who that is.
Starting point is 00:14:35 So it's kind of a weird thing to throw in there. Okay, so I get sued. I got noticed in the middle that I'm being sued. What am I being sued for? I'm being sued by a guy who in the year 2018 had someone hit him up on Twitter and tell him that he worked for Blueface and that he could get this guy a verse from Blueface.
Starting point is 00:14:58 This guy ended up basically sending this dude $3,000 or so in order to get a Blueface verse. $3,000 too much. Well, I mean, at that time it probably seemed like a good deal. It's a great deal. Great deal. And so then, you know, years later, this, this, this comes to me and I'm getting sued. And you might be wondering, Adam, why are you, why would you be getting sued for somebody who you don't know,
Starting point is 00:15:24 I actually do know the person who scammed this guy, but I don't know him terribly well. You know, it's like I would maybe call him, you know, an acquaintance. Let's say that for the benefit of the record. Do you have a phone number in your phone? No. Okay. So definitely not even that cool. I am lying.
Starting point is 00:15:37 But, no, I don't have a phone number on my phone. I don't know him. I don't employ him. Okay. He's in coins probably. It's probably the best way to, you know, I've been acquainted with him. But this guy scams this dude. And then this dude basically decides that he needs to sue somebody to get his $3,000 back.
Starting point is 00:15:55 So he's going to sue me because in his mind, this guy works for me. Now, this guy does not work for me. Does he purport to work for you? He, even in all of the conversation that I saw, never told this guy. that he worked for no jumper. And this was in the year 2018 when, realistically, this guy who I'm telling you I'm acquaintances with, I didn't even barely know this dude at all in 2018.
Starting point is 00:16:23 So the idea that this, like, in any way, was my fault. It's pretty baffling. And the idea that I had to go to court for it. Yeah, like, how did it get through? That's what I said. But I think my lawyers, like, missed the fact that there was, like, a Zoom possibility where I could have just handled this via Zoom. so the date passed on that and basically I had to go to Compton
Starting point is 00:16:42 and I drive that's backwards is it? Oh yeah, it was left hand. Oh but yeah the other one. Why? Think about what the camera is seeing. It's backwards both of them. There you go. You've been doing it was a long time to not be able to figure that one out. I've been doing it wrong. How am I better at gangbanging than you already? I don't know. One day in Compton he thinks he's a fucking pronoun. I know Compton, AD. I know.
Starting point is 00:17:08 sad. Who said this? I mean, I could try to find you a picture of them. But just people want to know what we're talking about right there. Katzax when she came in, her security looks right at me and says, I met you before. I'm homies with Compton AD. Nice.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I don't know how to describe them or anything, but you know. Security look in person. Whatever. You know a lot of unks. Anyway, so I drive to Compton and I'm concerned for my safety, not because it's Compton, but because this dude who's suing me, like in my mind is probably not all there. And is he from Compton?
Starting point is 00:17:42 I'm assuming why you're in Compton? I don't know if he was from Compton, but wherever, apparently he chose. I was thinking, I'm like, did he choose to have me go to court in Compton? Because Compton is where he's the most tapped in and would be most capable of getting me off on the way outside of the courthouse. A possibility. A possibility. Definitely on the table. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I mean, it seemed like a possibility. Anyway, so I drive to Compton and I park at 80's brother's spot. and we proceed to walk over because he's very close to the court I guess he was actually not far from the court allegedly and we walk over we get to the courthouse we realize there's an insanely long line I'm like kind of blown
Starting point is 00:18:18 away I hate it always and especially because of COVID everybody's kind of stretched out but the good the good part is that apparently I'm very popular in Compton because I was going to say we're like do people all of a sudden we're having a fucking meet and green line people are high people taking photos we're having a good time like me and Kiki Kiki's talking about street shit with random dudes in line talking about
Starting point is 00:18:36 all these dudes got beat with these dudes and yada yada yada yada and random dudes are just engaging with them like oh yeah yeah let's talk about that we're having a great time he's tapped in and counting clearly but they won't let him in to the courthouse with me because of COVID and whatnot so I have to go in myself
Starting point is 00:18:52 were you nervous though going in by myself outside the courthouse I don't think there's too much way you can't be nervous in the courthouse because literally you go through a metal detector it's like what the hell does that mean I mean what you're going to punch me in the face and then get tackled by a bunch of Yeah, a bunch of the sheriff. Like, that's the words.
Starting point is 00:19:07 It's not like anything that bad. Nobody can't shoot you or stab you in the court because you can't even get anything metal in there. True. In the theory. I don't know. Unless it's like up their ass. Are you so tapped into the Compton courthouse
Starting point is 00:19:17 that you walk around the metal detector? They're like, no, no, he cool. I may or may not bought a sharp pin in there before. This ain't no Jack Harlow's show, bro. You can't sneak the blaming in there. Anyway, that wasn't Jack Harlow's show either. But we're going to talk about that. But anyway, so then I get in there.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I go up. and there's like, you know, maybe 8, 10 people waiting around outside of the courtroom, right? And so I'm not even thinking. I'm not thinking that everybody waiting is like an old woman besides like one young guy.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I'm not even thinking about the fact that like this is obviously the dude because there's only one dude here and probably probably none of these like 50 year old woman are getting scared for blue face versus. He's probably screaming at the screen right now. Right, I know.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I almost didn't want to talk about this but you're a little bitch. You got to do it. This is a wonderful story. I'm so intrigued. I mean, it was a surreal experience. Literally, think about this. I woke up at 6 o'clock in the morning to do this.
Starting point is 00:20:13 To go to Count and to face a lawsuit. I never have to wait over a blue face first. Over money that I never got. I had to pay my lawyers like over $1,000 to prepare a letter basically explaining why. If this happened to me again, I would not pay my lawyers to do that. I did not need. Just copy and paste the letter.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I have this amazing letter that my lawyers put together explaining why. I am not at fault. I did not have to bring it out. I said about two sentences while I was in the fucking courtroom. Anyway, so I'm sitting there. I'm on my phone. I got my mask on. And all of a sudden it's just,
Starting point is 00:20:45 hey, Adam, I just want to let you know. I don't got no problem with no jumper. I was a fan of you. I was. Or I am a fan of you. Honestly, I don't even think it was in the past tense. But he goes,
Starting point is 00:21:00 your peoples took money from me. And that shit ain't cool. Like that really fucked on my life. Like my whole life got fucked up. I almost became homeless. And I'm looking at him like, bro, that ain't got nothing to do with me. Not only that, but don't spend your last 3K on a blue face first. I mean, there's better things to gamble on.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Sound financial advice. I'm starting to think that you might be. UPS is hard. You might be a bastion of a reason in this conversation. But, you know, yeah, I'm like, and he goes, no, but your people did. I go, that guy doesn't work for me. Right. I'm like, I can prove that he doesn't work for me.
Starting point is 00:21:35 He goes, it's still your fault. Like, that's your peoples. I'm like, it's not my peoples. What are you talking about? It's not my people. I have nothing to do with it. And he's like, but I did this because I lost money. Like, I did this because I lost money.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And I'm like, you're wasting more money on this lawsuit. You're not going to win. Are you fucking retarded? You're not going to. I'm screaming at him at this point in the fucking challenge. Yeah. Laura said don't say retarded. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Are you stupid? We're yelling at each. I'm sure all these 50-year-old ladies. We're outside. We're right outside the fucking courtroom. And we're just yelling at each other. And every like bit, like, we'll yell at each other enough that he'll just go quiet and sit there for fucking 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:22:24 And then he'll think of something that he wants to say to me. And he'll just let me know, like, some more information. And I just keep telling him. I'm like, bro, you understand you're going to have to convince the judge that I should pay you this money. It's not going to happen. Whatever. We get into the courtroom. The judge asked him, you know, basically like what happened.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I know that I'm relatively skilled as a orator. I can talk. You know, I can get my point across reasonably well. This guy was babbling to the judge, not making any fucking sense. The judge is trying to figure out what this guy paid the $3,000 for. And at some point, it takes like five minutes before the name blueface even comes out. Never at any point did he use the word verse. He never said, I paid for a blue face verse.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Like I could have, if I wanted to interject and help him, I could have explained this to the judge. In 30 seconds, I could have said, he paid the money because he wanted to do a song with blueface. he thought that the guy was going to send him a verse of blueface that he could then rap on so that he could further his music career. Boom. Judge would have understood it immediately. It was like 15 minutes of this guy trying to explain to the judge. And then finally the judge figures it out and says to me, he says, so Mr.
Starting point is 00:23:51 and the whole time, my last name is Grand Mason or some people say Gramazon. Okay. The whole time the guy was calling me Grandmeister. And I'm not like. you know what am I going to do I don't give a fuck my goal is to not see this judge if he's agreeing with you then go ahead call me grandmister whatever it is if I don't got to pay I'm all of those and by the time he calls me mr. grandmeister it's like I've already been standing for like 15 minutes just watching this guy try to make his point to the judge and it's
Starting point is 00:24:22 so mind-blowing and I'm you know I'm just holding it in I'm just standing there just not saying anything just thinking like how did I become a part of the circus is it an empty courtroom because of COVID as well it's just me him, the judge, the sheriff, and some secretary woman on a computer or whatever. He says, Mr. Grindmeister, does this person
Starting point is 00:24:43 work for you? He's like, no, Your Honor, he's never worked for me. He turns to the guy. He's like, can you prove that this guy work for Adam? His response was so babbling and so nonsensical. He ends up literally taking these pieces of paper where it's
Starting point is 00:25:02 tweets from random people saying the dude's name and saying like I saw this guy at Adam 22's store or like I saw this guy filming something outside of Adam 22's store like he just literally put this person's name in my name and in Twitter and search all the tweets and the judge is like having a hard time wrapping his head around the fact that anyone is even suggesting this the judge is like you know this is hearsay and it's not even like hearsay It's like four levels of hearsay. Like, this doesn't prove anything. This is just random people.
Starting point is 00:25:38 And these people aren't even saying that this guy were for you. They're just saying that he was at your... Circumstantially here at the same time. Is mind-blowing. And, you know, like, I don't even know if I had to say another thing to the judge. But by the end of this, it probably takes 20, 25 minutes maybe. By the end of this, the guy's basically crying. He's stuttering, he's stuttering like crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:59 I actually feel bad for this point. I did, too. And that's why I didn't. didn't like go in on him and I'm like even right now not really like being mean or whatever because I understand that he had his life fucked up and he's just trying to do anything he could to fix the situation and I even told the guy when I was arguing with him out there like he at one point he doesn't say anything for like 10 minutes and he says to me like Adam you could have done something for me you could have gave me this guy's information you could have even just gave me a little bit of
Starting point is 00:26:24 money to from my pain and suffering I said I'm going to explain something to you I will spend every last dollar I have before I give you a fucking nickel. I'm like, I will gladly spend $20,000 just so that you don't get the $3,000 that you're suing me for. I'm like, I will do anything to not have to pay you. He goes, that don't even make no sense.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I go, it does make sense because if I give in and give you money and let you scam me, then I got to let everybody scam me. Then the system wins. I'm like, I'm going to keep showing up at Com to 8.30 in the morning if y'all want to keep suing me because this is not, the fact when I told him, I will spend $20,000 to not have to give you $2,000. To me, that's common sense.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Of course, you don't want to let somebody exploit you. Yeah. And to him, that looked like a knife in the heart because he realized in that moment that I was never going to give him money. Even if the judge ordered me to give him money, it's not happening. You should have given him $500 on a snicker bar. Tim's going his way. Listen, I'm not giving this dude's shit ever because you're trying to, you're trying to
Starting point is 00:27:30 kind of scam me for some money I never even saw. And let's keep in mind, like, okay, if this was Laura, if Laura scammed him, I'm going to give you your money back just to, you know, obviously Laura wouldn't do that. Laura wouldn't do that. If you did, you worked for me. Like, it's, I could see how it's my fault in some weird way because I gave the email address or a reputable organization to somebody who was scamming.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Then I could see how I could be. You empowered the scammer. And I still don't think that I would actually be found guilty in court, but I don't think, I think the. right thing to do if it was somebody who actually worked for me would just be like, all right, here's your $3,000. I'm sorry for your hard times. And then you fire the person who scammed him, you know?
Starting point is 00:28:08 That would make sense to me. That's not what happened. This is just a guy who scammed you before I even fucking knew him. Anyway, so then. Wait, did you ever have a conversation with the guy that scammed him? Like, fam, what are you out here doing? I did. I hit him up.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Okay. And I said, just so you know, this is what I'm going to court for. That guy should make him. And he was like really apologetic. and he was like, bro, like, I'll pay your fucking legal fees. I had no idea that you're having to deal with this or whatever. And I was like, honestly, I can't bring myself to be mad at this guy because he didn't do almost anything involving me.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Number one, it happened basically before I knew him. I think I'd probably met him at that point, but I hadn't had anything close to like a relationship or a friendship, whatever. Number two, he never said he was scamming for a no jumper interview or any kind of promotion with no jumper. Me and AD recently had a bunch of. a beef with somebody because this dude met us and then was scamming people saying that he could get him a no jumper interview i've seen another one this weekend too really i have a girl saying she
Starting point is 00:29:08 can get people interviews and articles on hip-hop dx but did you like ask him why did you scam like why didn't he get this miniverse no i didn't ask him why he scammed him because i know why he scammed me i know he probably just wanted three thousand dollars and he just fucking you know just seemed like a good opportunity i can't be mad at somebody just for scamming someone and And meanwhile, I know them. Like, if this guy worked for me or was like a, you know, granted, like, knowing they he was scam somebody. Yeah, you wouldn't want to bring him into your organization.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Maybe if, you know, we were planning on hiring them, I would have to say, like, bro, you can't be doing anything like this if we're going to hire, et cetera, et cetera. This is just not that situation at all. It was completely unrelated. But anyway, so I walk out of the courtroom before the fucking guy, right? And I just go to the bathroom and I pee. I'm in there for like two minutes. I come out and the sheriff is waiting for me.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And the sheriff's like, hold up. Oh, dude is that way. He's like, just like, just hold up. Like, he's like, don't. And I look over and I see the guy walking to the elevator and he looks upset. Oh, my God. I triggered, like, really, I don't know. And I just say to the sheriff, I'm like, what happened?
Starting point is 00:30:09 He's like, it got a little heated. Oh, my God. And I was like, okay, I will definitely stand here with you and wait for this guy to take the elevator down. By the time I got down there and Kiki was waiting outside for me, the guy was already long gone. But yeah, it was pretty, uh, it was up to lower eating to run to my brother. It was a weird way to spend a friend in morning. I didn't want, yeah, I didn't want to hit him. doing that.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I just wanted to, you know. Not pay and get the fuck out of it. Yeah, and I mean, you know, we just came here. Actually, in the best part, I was like, I got to introduce your brother, Kiki, to my mom and my baby. Your mom and baby can be. And I haven't even met your mom and baby yet. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And you never will. No, I brought him to the crib, like, to my house. And he got to me, my mom, and my mom, like, really liked him, and they hit it off pretty good. And, yeah, he got to play with the baby and stuff. I took a photo on him together. Everybody thought it was LeBron. It was pretty cute
Starting point is 00:31:01 Everybody was saying that too Yeah he does have a It's like your brother's LeBron James He doesn't look like LeBron But he has LeBron vibes LeBron energy He kind of He favors LeBron
Starting point is 00:31:12 He can star in a space jam Spinoff if you wanted to But I got to learn a lot more about Kiki During that Just from talking in the car the whole time and stuff I feel like I learned a lot more About what his life has been like He's a good guy man
Starting point is 00:31:24 Fresh out of prison man And no jumper changed his life He love y'all He told me the story about what happened to his football career basically involving somebody banging on him and him having a while the fuck out. I'm trying to convince him to become a YouTuber where I'm like that that story right there, you tell that story
Starting point is 00:31:42 in 10 minutes worth of detail, you got a gas YouTube video right there. He has a lot of stories too, especially teaching me how to fight as a young kid. Right. I was telling him, I told him, I'm like, you know, I was like, the only communication is like, if you're going to be a YouTuber and like a street YouTuber, you know, you got to be a little careful about, you know, what you talk about and stuff, you got to make that decision because obviously, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:04 you know people, like people know you, you're still in the hood, you still like, you know, could have to make those decisions. He goes, I don't go to fuck. I'm gonna say exactly how I feel. I'm like, surreal. I believe that you think that's a good idea right now, but going forward, you might not necessarily think
Starting point is 00:32:20 that's as good an idea. No, I told him about that too, though. I was like, be mindful and worry. we're going to get you out of certain places and then you can do that shit. Yeah. He's trying to move to the valley. Yeah, get him out of Compton before he's out there telling stories and shit.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I bring him like, every week I bring him places that he just be like, oh, shit, like, because for me, when people was bringing me around places and taking me overseas and stuff, that motivated me to get some money. I was like, I don't want to be in the hood and I'm going to fuck that. For real, for us. Yeah. You take that for granted. Once you've been around.
Starting point is 00:32:53 You really take it for granted how much you could change somebody. his life by just putting them on some game you know just a plane flight though yeah yeah I mean just I mean one of my homies I bought him a hotel in Vegas the shit cost me $130 and the joy in his face just like seeing how they feel that shit is the best I got my own
Starting point is 00:33:10 room he's in there dancing making TikToks I didn't even know he had a TikTok you know what I mean like I'm like if I could do that with $131 and change somebody's perspective for real like change literally changing their lives because you're introducing them to a whole new energy that they've never experienced but I feel like those kind of dudes you get them a hotel room
Starting point is 00:33:26 and then all of a sudden they're buying like a pint of alcohol and they're blackout drunk and they passed out on the fucking balcony. It's about who you bring. They can't really afford it though. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because I remember me like I didn't go to no Hollywood clubs and like the reason why like me in Oteer are so close was that was the first person that took me to a Hollywood hotel.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I was at the Roosevelt eating fries and I'm like, this is nice and inviting me the next day and taking me to certain clubs. I'm like, why is this nigga so nice to me? I'm used to everybody. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Just wanting to pay you for a dick. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:34:02 He had $30 on who's that was that. 30, 75. Except my bad. Does that make you look different? If you were considering a relationship with AD, would you be upset about the fact that he used to sell? My relationship with me. I'm just saying, like, hypothetically, as a woman.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Right. If you find out like the guy. He was selling dick. Yeah. Probably would sit down. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't really feel. Oh, it's experience.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Maybe you should stop telling everyone. It's experience. It's just like, Where was your head to like allow that vibe? I don't know. I don't think I can. His head was in Rancho's hookamonga along with the rest of his body. I would like be friends with you.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I just person as a dating preference, it wouldn't really work for me. But it's a redemption story, a rehabilitated man. Redemption song. I don't believe in it. No. You don't believe in redemption? I do in a sense, but there's like something in the person that's in you that
Starting point is 00:34:50 chose to do that would like, there's still a piece of me. If you saw a pussy, he would forgive you. Yeah, but I wouldn't. sell pussy either. But there's a shitload of girls out here are rehabilitated pussy sellers that guys are wiping up, right? I know some old holes that are not holes anymore.
Starting point is 00:35:04 And it's totally cool that there's nothing wrong with doing that. It's a personal preference for me. But as a guy, it is the most fascinating thing in the world. You ever just log on to your Facebook and you just start scrolling through. I never look at my Facebook. When I do, I see all these girls who
Starting point is 00:35:21 were the biggest sluts in 2011 and now they have kids and fans and I'm just like have family photos and I'm not I'm not thinking anything bad about them at all I'm just kind of like it's so funny to see the one eight it's so bizarre to see the change when you didn't watch it incrementally oh yes like in my mind it's like you were literally like sucking dick in the bathroom at the bar and now it's the next day and you have three kids and you and they're into hell into God bro people can change they got dream chasers no catchers what are those things not dream chasers dream what
Starting point is 00:35:52 They got the dream chasers in their house They got me coming over for the weekends For gangbanks They haven't changed totally And for the record I wasn't a real prostitute Because that's how Adam was trying to sound So much worse than it is
Starting point is 00:36:04 Because you love it I'm thinking now I'm on back page or something You love it She's like he used to see Yeah I was just you know I had to use what I had Did you have a pimp? That's a Cali thing
Starting point is 00:36:13 I tried to pimp for one day Did you have a pimp to help you supply Your dick to other people You need like a third party right? I tried to pimp And I figured out The same day I was like I don't have the heart for this.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Really? Yeah, I care too much about people. I'm like, I don't want to put you through the ringer. I just gave it up. But so you could forgive a guy for selling crack, potentially killing all these people, causing devastation for his community, but you can't forgive him for throwing on a magnum
Starting point is 00:36:42 and putting his dick in a 400-pound woman? Facts, yeah. I could definitely forgive somebody for selling drugs. That's just because selling drugs is considered cool in our society. It's something that is considered cool, but it's like they're not intentionally going out there to harm these people. It's a side effect and it sucks. Oh, come on. If you're selling crack, you know what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:36:56 I mean, maybe crack is a little... Your people bought it to us. Oh, not my people. I don't know who did that. The Grimeister's of the world. It had nothing to do with me. I don't even know anyone personally that ever sold crack, so I can't... I do. I guarantee. If you listen off your sex partners right now, if you wrote them down, I could go through and be like, he's sold crack, he sold crack. There might be a couple. I listen to the lyrics more than you probably. I think a girl skim over the crack selling.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I haven't had sex with that many rappers, and the ones I have are, like, super intentional. Like, I chose them because, like, I didn't sell crack. No, because I really, I was, like, in love since a kid kind of thing. And I think most of them have been rapping since so young that they probably never sold crap. Wait, so the rappers you have chosen to sleep with? This is old shit, by the way. Were, like, ones that you were, like, looking up to? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Like, I literally probably only had sex with, like, three or four. Like, L.L. Not L.L. That was, like, beyond my gender. Whoa. I went to high school. a rock. In 01 to 05.
Starting point is 00:37:53 So we're talking like in that era. But yeah, I had one like literally wall-to-wall posters, like dated men in college that looked like him. I got somebody in mind. Oh, man. I'm never going to answer so you could guess all day. Bow-wow. We're not trying to guess the actual sex pattern.
Starting point is 00:38:09 I am. No, but. Bow-wow. Oh, my God. He probably comes up to my titty. Let me ask you that, I feel about this. If you're dating a girl and then you find out that, because, you know, every now and then you realize that a girl.
Starting point is 00:38:21 is willing to kind of like use their pussy as a passport and the sense of you wouldn't normally be able to go backstage or kick it with blank rapper but if you fuck them you're a pretty girl and you can slide in this guy's DMs and realistically you might just be down to have you come through or whatever and every now and then you you realize that and I don't think girls usually stay that way for long but I feel like a lot of girls like to at least experiment at some point in their life about basically being able to get into a social situation that they would never be able to
Starting point is 00:38:54 get into normally through the power of handing some pussy over. I mean, in those terms no, but it's like, yeah, if you grow up loving somebody, right, and you want to fuck them, obviously, he's on my wall because he looks good. Bellw? Yes, of course. It's bow.
Starting point is 00:39:10 You found me out. So, if he's on my wall because he looks good, it's like, why wouldn't I want to then go and fuck him and fuck with him and hear these stories from him and and fucking get to be a part of that shit. Steal some shit? No. Take a watch?
Starting point is 00:39:25 I don't think I would. Take a Gucci shirt? I don't think I'd want any of those things. Rinkled as Gucci shirt on the ground. Put that on grail for 200 bucks. That was my other thing too is I've always worked in this industry out, you know, aside from being in those situations. So it's like I never wouldn't want it to put myself in a situation where I'm being
Starting point is 00:39:41 questionable and I'm, you know, I literally just fuck them because I wanted to fuck them and I could. Like the same way guys have my IG model. bitches they want to fuck. I mean, for guys to act like we look at girls like aspirationally fucking a rapper and to act like we're any better, we'll hand dick to any girls remotely good looking and roarsically, a lot of times if she's not. It's not even in question.
Starting point is 00:40:04 We all know. Y'all got bitches that you fuck that it's like you know you'd never wipe her, but she's going to be a good motherfucking time. Well, I'll tell you something about us. We're both of the relationships. Allegedly. You've definitely fucked a lot of bitches in the past that you know you weren't going to be with.
Starting point is 00:40:16 And it's the same thing. Like, I know I'm not going to date. fucking rapper. I want to fucking go apple picking. I want to decorate my home for every single holiday. Like, I'm a rapper. I wear cherry earrings and shit. Like, I'm a dork. You got to aim low if you want to find a guy who's going to apple pick with you. Because a lot of these rappers, they don't have an apple picking schedule, you know? I don't even know what apple pick it is. It's literally picking an apple from a tree. Have you heard a cow tipping? No. That's different. That's destructive. And illegal. It's illegal? I mean, you're going to... I never did. I always wanted to.
Starting point is 00:40:44 It's like the equivalent of tipping somebody's car. Do you actually tip a cow? The cows are sleeping, you just push them over. That's not funny. That's not animal cruelty. That's what I'm saying. They don't get hurt. Why not? You just get ruffled. He's from that part of Compton where they torture cows. I don't want to go to that part of Compton ever. You don't even have no cows in Compton.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Oh, I beg to differ. I kicked it with the Compton Cowboys. They have horses. There's probably a cow around the corner. Nick I was with you. Yes, I know. And you had slides on and he got reprimanded. One of his hood OGs told them to stop hanging out wearing slides and shit because gangsters don't wear slides. Oh, all right.
Starting point is 00:41:18 You can wear slides, but like... Around the crib. Yeah, right the crib of stuff. Very cozy scenario. But that was a DMX quote. DMX said, I don't even wear flip flops in the crib. I don't ever feel that comfortable. Because in a...
Starting point is 00:41:28 Well, flip-flops, nobody should be wearing. No, because in a real fight... In a real fight? No, you got slides, you know. Yes. But in a real fight, though, you're going to get your ass whoop because some slides going to keep you all balance. That's why.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Oh, yeah. Yeah, you don't want that. Never something I've had to prepare for, so... Or even being, like, barefoot. Who walks around barefoot? White people. You have... You have...
Starting point is 00:41:48 You ever been to like a beach, a beachside place or whatever? You ever go to like a beach town or like a, a little island town or whatever? Or just a white town in the summer? You go to Toulomb. I don't have my feet off in Toulom? Yeah, but you're from Compton. What does that mean? You wear shoes.
Starting point is 00:42:03 You wear slides. We don't wear no sandals. I know, but see the thing is, I don't want to get cut by nothing in the street. That's the only reason why. If there was no glass in the world, then I'll be walking around barefoot. That's your thought. Oh, barefoot. Okay, I was like, I thought it was slides. You don't have fucking glass.
Starting point is 00:42:25 No, definitely. Walking around barefoot. And also, even the worst thing is when the ground is hot. Oh, I hate that. Oh, the ground is lava. Especially in Miami. You go to the beach. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:42:35 The sand, everything. Oh, my Jesus. Do you think the beach is worth it? No. Beaches overrated. You don't think it's worth it? For the kids. I like taking the kids to the beach, but I hate the beach personally.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I don't like sand. I don't like, take me to a lake. Not even. I don't even know what. Take me to a fucking forest. I prefer trees. A forest. It sounds like places to hide a body.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Sounds like places to get cute. A forest. I want to like go to like a jungle or some shit. I don't like. Tropical places. Yeah, yeah, there we go. You like that. That's what I'm looking for.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I mean, the beach is just kind of problematic. There's a lot of sand. There's a shitload of people. Like, if you want to go to Malibu on any given weekend here, like if you try to to drive to Malibu on a Saturday morning, you will quickly realize that every other person in L.A. Have the same idea? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:43:16 You're sitting in traffic forever on the beach. whatever Pacific shit that is. But the eat over there is fire, though. The restaurants? No, to eat, they're all the restaurants. Yeah, they're nice, but that's the restaurant. That's not the beach. I hate the beach.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I hate it that much, though. I like it. I love going to the beach. It's just like there's a lot of things that are pains in the ass about the beach that almost make the beach not seem worth it. But you know, like you're just really not in control of your temperature at the beach. It's very high. Like, I would choose a pool over a beach.
Starting point is 00:43:45 You have the beach part where you're probably like too hot and then you have the water that is so cold that you kind of don't want to go in. Ice fucking cold. The ocean on this side of the coast is ass. You know what? Our beaches are dirty out here. That's probably why too. Hell yeah. Like Doc Waller Beach, bro. Like, I just seen so many. I went to a bonfire there once. That was cool. Yes, that's bad though. And all the bonfires back then used to get shot the fuck up too. All the fucking time. I was one machine gun telling and like a bunch of fans. So I don't think of anybody. At Doc Waller Beach. Wow. Mind blown. That's crazy. It was like 2014.
Starting point is 00:44:17 me weekend. I'm triggered because now you're reminding me how AD didn't protect me when MGK slapped my hand at Rolling Lab. I didn't know you. Wait, MGK slapped your hand. I didn't even know him, I didn't even know him, man. That's not true. You were making me throw up Crip gang signs then. In 2014? 2019. At Rolling Louth.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Oh, yeah. That was different. He wasn't there. Did you talk about him and he was pissed or what happened? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that he just really didn't feel like a lot of different things that I had to say about his rap career, which coincidentally, like pretty much seems like he left his rap career behind. He did not.
Starting point is 00:44:48 He's going to rap again. He does rock. He's experimenting with different sounds. I think that should be celebrating. But he's doing so well. He's doing insanely well, a level that he never saw yet. Well, that's kind of my point is that his rap never really. And I told you, you hate white people.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I'm more critical of white people. I mean, I would say I am too, but I think he, but he's like the real fucking deal. Like, he really cares about the fucking art and not like the fuck shit. I really have nothing against him as a person. I just really, like, hated his music as a rapper. and felt that that was an okay thing to talk about. And I don't really, like, I don't feel bad about ever saying it. Like, I still, because when we got into that altercation.
Starting point is 00:45:25 He's super skilled, though. How would you not like his music? Yeah, is he fucking fire, bro? Rapping wise, lyrics wise? Name a song. What you mean? Wild boy, there you go. Wow.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Hey, you said name one. Until I die. Love Wild Boy. That was a good one. Till I die is a good song. That's the goes up in the club. And Laura shouldn't like him because he did, her favorite, him and him. But this is the thing, and me.
Starting point is 00:45:46 But this is the thing is that I don't have anything against his music or whatever, but, and I don't have anything against him as a person. I would love to squash the shit or whatever, but, but this is the thing. Have you ever heard anyone in rap talk about the fact that he stopped rapping and moved over to pop punk? Because I've never seen anyone in the rap industry,
Starting point is 00:46:13 in the rap media world, have a conversation about this. because nobody liked his raps. I don't think it's that. I think it's... Nobody misses him. But a lot of artists are experimenting,
Starting point is 00:46:23 so I feel like people just look at it as that. And his experimentation has gone very well. He saw a genre that basically was like empty. Completely, yeah. There's no popular pop punk bands, basically, even though that style of music, I think, is still viable. People clearly like it.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Clearly it's viable. Yes, and he's doing very well with it. I'm just saying that like, can you think of any other rapper that could basically like stop rapping and start making pop punk songs and have it basically be a non-issue. Trippy Red just in a rock album? Trippy Red puts out rap albums for the record.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I mean, it's not like he puts out sort of weird and like spaced out and he definitely experiences different genres, but it's still rap music. And the fact that he's white, you're right, is wide. If white people do white shit, they're not going to be celebrated for that shit. Like they expect a white person to go join rock or do punk shit. Like when Lil Wayne did it, it's like, Little Wayne is doing the fucking, he's doing a fucking rock album. or like when Snoop did a reggae album they're like reggae or
Starting point is 00:47:16 Snoop did a gospel album Wayne did a rock album that everybody hated in rap and then everybody now looks at it like wow that was so influential and he was such a pioneer of that style nobody fucked with that album when he put that bitch out
Starting point is 00:47:29 not the least of which was me I had a friend who he drove from from New York to Austin to meet up with us on this road trip and when he gets there he's like man I didn't have nothing to listen to except the Low Wayne rock album
Starting point is 00:47:41 I listened to it like 15 times in a row I'm like, that sounds like actual hell. I can't believe you did that. Yeah, that album was asked. But no, I feel like Kel's like, I don't know. Oh, Kel's, you guys are on a super close basis. Yeah, because I'm super tight with his best friends, so I used to always hang out with him a lot.
Starting point is 00:47:57 But I don't know. I think he's, I think he's raw. Wrong? Raw. Raw. Raw. Yeah. I never had anybody on the podcast who said stuff like raw.
Starting point is 00:48:07 That's cool. Really? Like, I use that word all the time. But I don't know. Like, I just, I really genuinely appreciate meeting rappers. and or artists that actually really give a fuck about what they're doing and the art and the visual. He fucking puts so much into the visuals and everything. He really puts a lot of thought into shit.
Starting point is 00:48:22 And I really fucking like that. Like a lot of these people just want to get rich, which is cool too. I like this shit because I like the artistry of it. So I fuck with him fucking with it. I hate art. I want nothing to do with it. Grand Meister. Grand Meister.
Starting point is 00:48:36 The Grand Meister. So you smoke weed. I smoke a lot of weed. A lot of weed. Not a lot. That sounds extra. I would like you to know that my partner here, AD is allergic to weed. Really?
Starting point is 00:48:48 He's got serious issues with weed. That blows. It makes me just go to sleep. It landed them in the hospital. But you know what? That's what edibles do for me. I can't edibles do not work. They don't make me high though.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I could take like 100, 200. It'll just make me go to sleep, but I will not get high on that. No, edibles make me go to the hospital. I feel like edibles get me more of like real high. I love my edible high. When I even eat a couple of those gummies, The difference, and I love smoking a blunt on top of it for sure, but it's a different thing. Like eating just a little bit of edibles, it feels like you have this more like full body high.
Starting point is 00:49:23 I don't like body highs at all. No, but it's like a, it's a full like hum to your body. Your body's kind of warm and relaxed. Whereas a lot of something you smoke a blunt, you feel like you're just sort of blasting it into your brain. And you feel like that kind of high, but it's not quite the same. I'm so glad someone, I've never had this talk and this is, that's exactly how I feel about. I used to be a coward like him and say that I would not do edibles and that I'm scared edibles.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Not anymore. I'm a coward because I don't want to smoke. I mean, eat edibles. It took you a while to catch up on that. I thought you were going to be like, come right away. He took too many edibles. It makes me really sad, though, because I started smoking weed only in 2018. And it was because, actually, it was like Torrey Lane's had a release party or something
Starting point is 00:50:03 and they had, like, free edibles. That was, like, their table. So I took a bunch because I was trying to be on a diet and not drink alcohol. And I didn't take any weed at all at the place. time and never did that logic i'm not drinking alcohol right now so i'm gonna eat a fuck little weed brownies and die in this club it was little itty-bitty gummies and like it was like 10 milligrams or whatever and a little thing so i'm like cool two of them i'm out of here i'm lit so i ate that shit and it was like the most euphoric high i've ever i literally felt like the house because the house was like a
Starting point is 00:50:29 90s style i felt like i transported back to the 90s i went in a whole different room by myself away from the whole party i was vibing the fuck out and then it got me into weed and shit but last you like top of 2020 literally just stopped I have no idea of what my body did, but... You don't think they get you high anymore? They don't. They literally do not get me high. Like I said, I could eat a bunch and all it'll do is make me sleepy. I will not get high at all.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Wow. I don't understand what happens. See, I feel like that with mushrooms. I get that type of feeling. Oh, mushrooms are the shit. Yeah, that's cool. I fuck with that shit. That shit is fucking beautiful.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I've had some crazy... I left myself a 90-minute voice note once on shrooms. Like my higher self talking to my inner child. What? Breaking down hell of shit. That shit was the littest trip ever. I don't want to do. to be that. No, it's great. I literally
Starting point is 00:51:13 like solved problems. It was great. I feel like, okay, I did that Sada Baby podcast and we were on mushrooms. We started talking about a bunch of shit that I would have never dreamed. We started talking about what it would be like if there was a separate NBA for just the white guys.
Starting point is 00:51:31 A concept. Which like on mushrooms actually kind of made it sound like a good idea. There's a conversation there. Clearly these guys are having a hard time competing. Maybe we just kind of, I mean they do guys and girls. It's like women's leagues. I mean, and I don't want to put those, like, you know, much respect to Chris Mullen and shit, but, like, I just don't, like, maybe there really is. Like, if we could, like, physically, like, prove that, like, these white guys are. Wasn't Larry Bird, like, a great one, though?
Starting point is 00:51:52 He was great, but, I mean, when you take Larry Bird and you put him next to MJ and Magic Johnson, all the guys that were the greatest at his time, I don't think he really, like. I literally can't hold a combo about this except them, but, oh. I wonder if there's, like, can we prove that Larry Bird was an example of white privilege and that he actually was, like, really overhyped? No, he was. He got the accolades, though. No, he was good. But he might have gotten the alcohol, but no, you have to actually do things to get that. I mean, when you win championships, he won a lot of championships.
Starting point is 00:52:17 But with a team, no? That's good. With a team of black guys. Exactly. Yeah, but he was the star of the team. Right. Because he's like. Because he's white.
Starting point is 00:52:26 They gave him that star position because he's white. The WBA. The WBA. I think it's systemic, isn't it? Not systematic? It can be both. Oh, okay. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:52:38 I don't know. I'm not woke enough. I'm not working enough. I don't know, but that's just like an example of like, you know, me inside of baby, we're gangsters, hard asses. All of a sudden we're talking about all this weird shit. I was like, that's the power of mushrooms though, you know. No, shrooms are fine. That's the biggest drug I've done.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I'm scared to do anything else. Really? Yeah. I've actually, I only even. What? What drugs you've done? I did meth. You've done meth?
Starting point is 00:53:01 One time. And how do you, how do you take meth? What do you do? I was with a girl that was seen at the time, psychopathic porn star. and she uh okay that tracks we were trying to find like molly i think and uh this is back before i met my girl or anything and uh she uh at some point of the night
Starting point is 00:53:18 we're already like really drunk and we're trying to find molly or coke or something she sort of holds her hand out and she got these little rocks in there and i'm like that's molly and she's like no and like i don't know if she like specifically said it's meth but either way she was just like no it's great and it makes sex way better and that's all i really needed to hear At that point, it's like, okay, cool, sounds good. Yeah, I already know that we're going on fucking for some inordinate
Starting point is 00:53:42 amount of time off of all this alcohol we already consumed. And, you know, it's weird. Like, when you really, really want to do drugs and somebody just offers you some different drug and tells you that's just the same as the drug you were looking for, it's like, wow, what the fuck? And you're also inebriated, so there's a level of not giving a fuck already. Yeah, but that was like, it sort of led to me realizing
Starting point is 00:54:00 that she was doing this stuff all the time. So what do you, but it's a pill? So you just, you take the pill? Yeah, but then I recall later in the night that we ended up like breaking it down and snorting it as well? One time I saw in a threesome, I mean, this is like vanilla shit, I guess, but like the girl, like, licked sometimes.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I think it was just coke, though, off his dick. Probably coke. Yeah. That was like the most exciting thing I've ever seen, I guess. Snorted line off of them? Yeah, maybe snorted. I don't remember. I know you did something.
Starting point is 00:54:24 So you're out here just doing threesomes all the time, huh? Not anymore. Actually, I just made one year no sex, which is crazy. Not even on some, like, holy roller shit at all. It just literally happened that way. Why? Because I had, like, a little roster of, like, three guys that I've been fucking for the last few years or whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:41 And, um, you know, like you have a couple, like, when you're bored, you hit a couple people up, not a couple. I just have a roster. Yeah. It was loosely organized and I was forgetting who was on it all the time, but, yeah. Mine was like two people, really. And it was just, one was like somebody I really cared for. So it was always on and off.
Starting point is 00:54:55 And the other guy was just, if I wanted a cool, crazy night, I might hit him up. And, um, but yes, like, April of last year, I had like this crazy awakening shrooms were part of it. And, um, I just kind of like really. figured out a lot of my, why I did a lot of shit. I never really knew why I was doing shit. I was just doing it. I knew I liked it, but I couldn't figure out certain shit and just whatever. And I figured out a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I'm like, none of these guys fucking me like deserve this shit. Like, I'm so fired, dog. Like, they literally don't deserve my pussy anymore. So I stopped fucking them. And COVID, I didn't go out anywhere. So I didn't meet anyone else. And here I am one year later, dry as a fucking Sahara Desert. It's time to crack it open.
Starting point is 00:55:32 What's your plan for cracking it open? I know this guy Brian Pumper. No way. Absolutely not. I have a try. Doesn't he have like HIV or something? I don't know. There was like a rumor about that.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Yeah, but there was also a video of him taking an HIV test in his car. I bet there was. Like anywhere in L.A. You go around, you might see Brian Pumber on like a random day. I think mostly in jail now. Is he in jail? We saw a video of him getting arrested and we haven't heard anything since. And at some point somebody who was a fan and maybe people watching this can follow up on this,
Starting point is 00:56:03 but they sent me, they went and searched and found evidence. on the LA court records that he was basically locked up for prostitution sexual charges of sorts I'm not sure exactly what but maybe I can interview him in prison
Starting point is 00:56:18 that would be lit wasn't he going around trying to get bitches and porn and shit yeah he was the king of that yo when I asked Katz Dex about Brian Bumber she goes I remember that name she's like I don't remember who it was
Starting point is 00:56:30 I remember that name I'm like damn you just like I spent months researching Brian Pumper bro I used to see him with girls on chains, he'll come to playoffs, bro. He's a strange individual. But that's why, like, your manager, Punt said. He's like, Brian Pumper, he used to have the baddest bitches. I'm like, yes, bro.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Not no more. Cracking eggs over here, remember that? Crick an egg on the head. Shout out to Brian Pumper. If he is in jail for the rest of his life, he'll, like, remember that he spent his, like, last days on the street or last years on the street, basically at the laundromat,
Starting point is 00:57:00 meeting any random as a girl. Don't matter if she weighed 300 pounds, put her on the leash. Take the photos, crack an egg on her head. You never see her again. That was like his schick. That's just what you would always. You would always see it.
Starting point is 00:57:13 But also, I have, like, good information to suggest that the Instagram and Twitter that I follow of Brian Pumper are not really him. Does he follow you back? So it's somebody purporting to be Brian Pumper? Yeah. Or it's someone close to him that's running it for him. But I don't know if I ever told you this. Back in the day, this is the only time Brian Pumper ever responded to me. This is when my girlfriend first blew up.
Starting point is 00:57:35 You probably do not recall. But my girl basically blew up at first because she had a little YouTube channel and had a couple of videos going viral of just her talking about host shit or whatever. And then she made a video that said me and my boyfriend will drop a sex tape if I hit a million subscribers. Boom, it goes so viral. Are you a boyfriend? Yes. And then so it ends up on every fucking blog. like this is the idea of a girl being willing to like make a sex tape 4 million subscribers like blue people's minds and what's crazy
Starting point is 00:58:09 there was another girl who me and her actually a threesome with who had had blown up and got like 700,000 subscribers right before that from saying the same thing and that was actually really awkward because that girl kind of like got mad at my girl like you went viral for the same exact thing you're like and then they sorted it out and we all fucked but um beautiful ending huh either way it was around that time where my girl was blowing up from that and Brian Pumper tweeted out for some reason like I don't know why y'all tripping this Lenn of the Plug girl ain't got no star power
Starting point is 00:58:44 and I responded to him and in retrospect I'm not sure that this was the real Brian Pumper that I was talking to. It certainly could have been a fake like the one that I currently follow I think and I said I'm like damn Brian
Starting point is 00:59:00 I looked up to you How are you going to do me like this? You sell out the guy who's at court, which you. I did. I just wanted to get a wholesome response. And Brian Bumber responded, or whoever's putting in it being responded and said, like, it's all good, bro. Get your money.
Starting point is 00:59:16 You're going to be all right. Or some like some super generic thing. And I don't know. It was pretty mind-blown. So that's why you all have to be hurt your feelings. No, it didn't really even hurt my feelings. It just kind of blew my mind. Like, wow, this guy that I've, you know, I found a tweet from 2010 where I said,
Starting point is 00:59:31 I can't believe I just found out who Brian Pumper was. 2010, 2010, 2011. I seen him in 2011 in a strip club in the Bronx. That was with Joey. Really? And like Yarra Sanchez. A couple of us, we went to a show cup and he was just there. And was Joe kicking it with him?
Starting point is 00:59:47 I think maybe Joe might have said hi, but Joe was like not interested. It was like his birthday. Joe was there for Brian Pumper. You always should have got a flick of them together. You got to watch my Brian Bumper video just so you can hear me talk about him meeting Kendrick. We'll do. King Dingling. That was the greatest right there.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Yeah. I, we did have, you know who wrote down topics earlier? Houseful. House phone. Oh, so what to ask? Did we ever get a 4-1-1 on where the day he's at? He's probably doing some horse drugs right now. He breaks into these like vet labs and steals their drugs for the horses and then he does them all.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Okay. And sometimes he just will be kind of like catatonic for a few days. Actually, no, I have no idea where he is. One thing I wanted to talk about. Give me my phone so I can look at my topic. too. Me and Josh was talking about this though. So I just started the movie reviews if you ain't
Starting point is 01:00:36 seen it tune into that, right? Everybody keeps saying, Adam won't give House Phone a show. He won't give House Phone the show and Josh is like, I'm so pissed off because people don't understand. Housephone does not want a show on no jumper. You guys please stop asking. It's not Adam.
Starting point is 01:00:52 There's nobody in the office. I mean the reality, and also he has not texted us back, so I mean, we're an hour into this and he's not. Oh, actually, no, we've got to the housework, ironically the house phone, housework, of looking at his Instagram to see when his last story post
Starting point is 01:01:08 was, because whenever we're trying to figure out if he's alive or not, that's usually a pretty good way to sort of judge, well, he hasn't posted in a little while. He was supposed to give me some high rollers today. Oh, okay, nine hours ago we posted about the podcast and then show up.
Starting point is 01:01:24 This? He was covering his basis, so it looked like you. I'm not searching the police website again. Oh yeah. Pop over. Tough love. You're wasting your time. No, I mean.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Oh, I could answer your question, though. You asked him what is my game plan for to get jump back in the game? How are you going to celebrate? I don't have a plan because I actually, I had a potential recently and then I reneged because I'm just like, I don't know. I needed to be like a special first time now. I'm like a new virgin again. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:48 And I'm 33. It's like my Jesus year. Like I was reborn this year. My Jesus year. I was here Larry Bird year. Somebody's got to say, I'll go apple picking with you. Yeah. There's got to be like some commitment shit.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Or they just got to offer me like the, I don't know. know it's like either you got to be we're going to get married or like the greatest time ever you're going to show you're going to have to dip your dick in gold yeah something something's got to give because i don't know i'm not interested in some regular shit well you reach that point in your life as a woman where you realize like oh you know if i ever was going to have a chance with this guy or we were ever going to be anything serious i'm definitely taking myself farther away from him taking me serious by just fucking him early on you know i mean that's exactly it too right and but again like I said, a lot of the people that I would fuck early on, it was like, I know going into this,
Starting point is 01:02:33 I don't want to be with you. Like, you're not, the things you stand for, like, the things you say in your song. Like, I know I'm not going to be with you, but let's fucking have a good time. Like, you know, who the fuck wouldn't want to fuck on a private jet up in the air, like, and smoke some weed and shit. Like, that shit is a fucking great time. That's amazing. Smok weed on the private jet up in the air.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Yeah. Really? Yeah. You care. I never heard of that. Yeah, I have. Actually, because I almost had sex this summer. and that was with one of the people
Starting point is 01:02:59 that's been in the rotation and it was literally like I had already had like my come to Jesus moment and I'm good with these people but it was like I was super bored one day and I'm like I want to do something like I want to have like some rock start if I'm gonna fuck I want to do some wild ridiculous
Starting point is 01:03:11 like I could fuck somebody anybody but like they're gonna fuck me regular and we're gonna go home if I'm gonna fuck let's make it a fucking experience so I hit this person who could make it an experience and he was he happened to be in LA but he was leaving and I was like
Starting point is 01:03:26 oh take me with you L.O. because I know he flies private and he was like come on I'm like oh shit let's go and so I was very excited I'm like I'm about to go to the mile high club I can't wait this is going to be nasty because it's good and then he hits me back and he was like I'm going to bring a friend and I was like fine fuck it whatever cool like I wasn't in the mood to entertain two energies for a threesome but I'm like maybe it'll just be really lit like a girl yeah another girl yeah and so that honestly this person is the only guy I really had many threesome's with I think my maybe I've had two other others in my life possibly.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Otherwise, it was just with the same person. Because I'm kind of awkward. I don't know how to orchestrate that shit. Like, you got to be able to, like, be a really great ringleader in that scenario. It just is awkward in general. And, like, it basically takes the people involved being really into it to make it not awkward. Because if you are awkward or whatever, like, I mean, like, if you, if you still have that sort of, like, youthful, like, awkwardness about having sex in a threesome, oh, my God, that shit.
Starting point is 01:04:26 It just doesn't vote well. And so this person, like, his energy is so big that it's like, no one can even, you can't have that energy around him. Like, he's going to make it great. It's going to be great. So I was like, at least it'll be fun. Like, he's a good time. But he's also very narcissistic and into himself and just annoying. And so I get to the plane, this is the Van Nuys Airport or whatever, sit back over there.
Starting point is 01:04:46 So we get there. This woman is like in her maybe late 40s. And I'm just like, oh, my God. Mill. You show up for the. Not that there's anything wrong with being your late 40s, but it's just pretty funny that you show up. It was just so random.
Starting point is 01:05:02 A white woman with like, like, I don't know, you could tell she did many drugs in her lifetime kind of look. Like many white women, yes. Yeah. And like, it was just, like, I don't want to bash her because I don't want her to see this and feel bad about herself. But like, it was just, I was sitting there like, I don't know how I'm going to, I don't even like women like that.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I just like, I like the experiences. I like doing shit or whatever. So I'm like, I don't mind it. But I'm like, I don't know how I'm even hype myself up to like, like, how am I going to do this? Like, I really was not into her, like, at all. And so, you know, when we get on the plane, and she was just so fucking extra,
Starting point is 01:05:35 like, he's playing his music on the plane and shit. Like, he's unreleased music. I have my headphones on listening to my own shit, because at this point, like, I don't want to be bothered. You're wearing headphones on the threesome bad sign. And, like, because he's not even, like, paying attention to us. He's, like, so into his fucking music and what he's doing and shit. This bitch is crying at every song that he's playing
Starting point is 01:05:54 because it's so beautiful. I'm like, yo, I'm going to. That's why she there. But that's exactly why she's there. Where she is? And so I'm just sitting there like, I cannot believe this is real. Like I can't. And so at one point I take my headphones off
Starting point is 01:06:08 because I'm like, at least let me join this party so he doesn't sit there and be like, why didn't you want to hear my music? You don't like, he does that stupid little bitchy bratty shit. So I'm like, all right, let me just join this fucking convention. So all this to say, but at one point it was very cool. It was about five in the morning, six. The sun was rising. We're up in the air. So you see like the clouds.
Starting point is 01:06:26 the sun. I got a joint. He's playing this record that, because I'm a fan of his music sometimes, I just didn't fucking want to hear it, the whole plane ride. So he's playing this record that was like, it's just a big record, it's got gospel in the background. Like, that was a fucking moment right there. I'm like, this is annoying. But, like, I'm slowly ticking away
Starting point is 01:06:43 of who this rapper could be. Guys, relax. So, but then I actually ended up never even fucking him. So we land. He puts us in a room together, which is bizarre because he has all the money that He could, and he's not a cheap person, but he puts me in the room with her, and she's an upcoming artist, apparently.
Starting point is 01:07:03 She used to do, like, 80 other jobs. And she's old as fuck. Yeah, and so now she's trying to rap. And so we spend the, mind you, I work, so I'm like, at the time writing for, I'm in the room trying to write for hip-hop D-X and shit like that, like, trying to do my job. And she's playing me her music and showing me all her music videos. And, like, if anyone knows me that is literally, I mean, most of us, right? You don't want to, when you meet random people, you don't want to fucking hear their random music in a mill. I don't want to hear any music that I don't already know ever.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Exactly. Like that is the most annoying thing that can happen anywhere. So she's playing me here. Her music the whole fucking time. He doesn't hit us until like 2 a.m. We landed at like noon. So I'm stuck with this bitch from noon to 2 a.m. And then he expects us to like get into the mood for this threesome at that point.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Then he takes us to a studio and a fucking special about him comes on TV. Oh my God. This is such a short list. And you would think, special, private jets. The gospel was a total side. Like, that's not even, no. But man,
Starting point is 01:08:05 so then. You don't know that stuff? The Jayze and Farrell song? Half the time when I mention it, people know exactly what I'm talking about. The video. And half the time they have no idea. You talking about the video
Starting point is 01:08:16 with all the businesses and stuff? I don't know. There's a lot of rappers that fly private now, like a lot. They got something called JetX. A lot of podcasters who don't Yeah, no, but I'm just saying As far as you're trying to narrow it down Like there's a million people it could be
Starting point is 01:08:30 They'll narrow it down Anyway, our chat is smart Choir So then she starts freaking out again About this special Like she was the worst Then she starts, he's playing an instrumental And she starts rapping to it
Starting point is 01:08:42 And then he spas down on her And then I fell asleep And then he asked me if I wanted to sleep In downstairs I said yes So then I went downstairs Then he came back And he was like, you don't care about me Like what's going on?
Starting point is 01:08:53 I'm like, you know what? I don't feel well. Can I go back to the room? And then he sent me back to the room and I text his people. I'm like, give me a flight. And I got the fuck out of that. This sounds very strange.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Being a girl sounds horrible. It was a lot. And all I wanted was some rock star sex on a jet. That was all I wanted a crazy. It was like a Thursday night. I'm like, what a fucking wonderful Thursday. And I'm going to go home and fucking hang out on my cat.
Starting point is 01:09:14 But you seem like you're at the point in your life where you're starting to realize that like, why would I want to chase around famous rich dick that's going to treat me like a second-class? a citizen when I could find myself a good footlocker employee and just settle down. Yeah, an apple picker.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Footlocker is not going to be it for me. In my mind, I envision it. Why? Oh, my God. Don't even go Kevin Sandberg on you. I don't want to start this. I need a creative. I need somebody that's a creative. I don't.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Sally's shoes is an art. It's not an art. Al Bundy did it. No, thank you. He made a whole TV show out of it. I want somebody that can like, I can wake up on a Tuesday and I could catch a flight.
Starting point is 01:09:53 I want someone that has a schedule like that. You want somebody with money. Not even money. I mean, yes. That can catch a flight. You gotta at least match my money. Like, you gotta at least start where I'm at. Sorry, Costco workers.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Okay. Think about the predicament of like my girl. So she gets into a relationship with me. And within like the first year of us being together, she's got, you know, more money than she could ever fucking spend, you know, like she doesn't know what to do with, you know? And that's because she blew up and shit. Yeah, your only fan just goes crazy.
Starting point is 01:10:19 It was private Snapchat then, whatever. But, you know, she's in a relationship with me. And I think sometimes she kind of like looks at her time that she had money before she had a kid. And she's kind of like, fuck. Like I wish that I spent more time traveling. I wish that I spent, you know, more because that's what she always wanted to do when she was broke and working out of a fucking supermarket. Is that she wanted to travel. She wanted to see the world and everything.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Then she starts really getting money. But she's also in a relationship with me. And the whole thing about me is that, I mean, me making money is a lot more time intensive than her making money in terms of like, only fans. you know, you could do a couple of photos shoots or little iPhone clips or whatever in a week. And that's, you know, and it is a lot of money or a lot of time the way that she does it, where she, you know, really takes it serious and everything. But like for me, I mean, I'm in here fucking like eight hours a day, Monday through Friday. And it's just like, you know, there is that like illusion of the idea that you're going to like get with someone who has a ton of money and has a wide open schedule.
Starting point is 01:11:17 And it just usually does not work out that way. It's not going to end up like that. I don't want, I mean, the schedule thing is a little bit less. more so I just want you to live an unconventional life like I live in unconventional and also like I've seen a lot I've done a lot like I've been around the world I've I've experienced like fucking on I mean I never ended up getting to fuck on the jet but I almost did but it's like but it's like I want you to have at least experienced that too or know that life know that world because to be able to even connect because yeah there's nothing like there's
Starting point is 01:11:46 just you there's just you get lost in translation like I go home and I talk to people from my hometown and it's just different the way they talk to you the way they talk to you the they, I don't know, it's just a different, it's just a different thought process. See, men are opposite. Men who like to show women, let's do this, let's go on this private jet, let's go to this country that you have never seen before, and that's what you want to think. Yeah, I mean, I want to put a man onto things too, but not on a big scale. I want us both to meet each other where we're already at.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Like, I make a lot of money. I want to meet someone that has a lot of money. I already struggled. I went through all of that, so I'm not doing it again with somebody else. Like, it's not. I respect it. And like in my mind, my dream guy is like a fucking Hollywood set designer or some shit. And we could just fucking wake up and build shit together.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Man, I've seen some of these YouTube channels my girl has shown me where it's basically like that, where you got like a dude and a girl, they're in a relationship, they're both interior designers. And every goddamn day, they're just going and working on this trip. That is a dream for me. It does seem very fun because, you know, they're joined together. Like, my girl doesn't even barely come here. I mean, if she would come here with a kid, it would be great, but it's also like, all right, I'm going to have to tell everybody that you can't. can't smoke weed for a while.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Oh, right. You know, it's like, you gotta change shit up. This is not a great environment for a kid necessarily. It doesn't seem ideal. You know, I was thinking maybe we need to build like a little like a, like a daycare center here. Because my son was knocking overall type of shit in here. There's so many wires in here that you're just kind of, if you want to be in here, you're expected to just know that you can't go tugging on every wire, which I think that that's probably a problem. I'll help you design the daycare.
Starting point is 01:13:17 I love like interior shit. Like my crib, I painted like a whole Mario Brothers wall and shit. I love like weird creatives. Yeah, this shit is so fire. That's hot. Mario Brothers, hot. Sick.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Hot. But that's why at my room, I have watermelon wallpaper and like cheetah print shit. Like I like weird, ridiculous. What's up with you? It sounds like Lisa Frank. I, yeah, literally. I feel like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Katie Perry is like my, I love her. Like the way she dresses all the weird, crazy weird. Like I have fruit tattooed cupcakes, all type of random. That's what I like. You're like a raver chick. Yeah, I am. But like a boring one. Like it doesn't actually rave.
Starting point is 01:13:49 But I like all this shit. You're stuck in that weird moment and like everybody. has this moment in their life where they're like basically between being a like a child and like living their life like a child and dating like a child actually have you ever seen baby boy here you go shut up no we're not to go through this again i'm not going to go into it but you know you're like you bro the basis of you saying that i'm the complete opposite bro no yeah that's true complete but you you have a little bit of that baby boy in you you just think i'm a playboy that's the only thing you think about me of a baby boy no i just see you like sometimes
Starting point is 01:14:22 I make a lot of money. I drive a nice car. I pay all my fucking bills. Same, same, same. I don't have no one funding nothing for me. I don't sell dick anymore. No smut. I have a lot of careers and things and shit going on.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Okay, but this is my thing. Sometimes I see things in your life that I'm like, it seems like you don't really care about you. Like you're sort of like when you end up in the hospital off of drinking 18 energy drinks. I did. Look at me. I'm drinking three waters now. That's a good step towards getting rid of.
Starting point is 01:14:51 I'm drinking three. You haven't even finished any of them, and we've been here fully. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, okay, okay. Sorry, it isn't fruit water. All right, all right, all right. And I've seen you drop dripping the water on the ground the whole time. He's getting rid of it, like Jerry Sanktaw with the lamb, no, the mutton.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Oh, my God. I definitely had that scare, and I've changed up a lot. That made you decide you want to change your life? I'm not going to stop drinking. I'm not going to do energy drinks no more. I think after that, because, you know, the energy drinks, we had a whole, someone who works here, bought a whole fucking gigantic case of these energy drinks, so there was like
Starting point is 01:15:25 30 of them in the fridge. I mean, it seems like you guys just started drinking them like it wasn't a big deal. I was. Those things are a big deal. Those aren't even like regular energy drinks. Like for me too, I, when I heard that you ended up in the hospital
Starting point is 01:15:42 and then Trev and Josh basically said that they weren't going to drink them anymore. And then today when I was on the way to the office, I was thinking about I'm like, if they're all going to stop, I think I'm going to stop too. I'm going to get myself a coffee and try to keep this shit a little bit more normal. But I'm so used to buying like two Red Bulls a day now. It just feels weird as fuck.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Swear to God. You don't like Red Bull? No. I don't like anything carbonated at all, so. But it also just tastes like pee and candy. Pee and candy? Sounds amazing. The energy I get from a red bull.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Pee and candy. You never let a little girl pee on you. Have you? Really. That's hot. It's not. I've tried it once. It was like stupid, though.
Starting point is 01:16:18 It feels stupid, right? like, why do I have pee on my leg now? Like, you just did it and they were. We were both looking at each other like, oh, right, well, that was stupid. Let's take a shower. I was on Mad Ecstasy with my girl and this other girl one night, and the other girl was just like, oh, I want you to pee on me so bad. And I'm like, I'm like not as on ecstasy as they are, but I'm like kind of just like
Starting point is 01:16:36 standing there, just like watching my girl like squat. She's nervous. She couldn't even get the pee out, right? Yeah, I would not be able to pee on. I would not be able to pee on someone. And the other girl, though, is all Molly. My girl was too. And I'm just watching them and just thinking like, this is weird.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Yeah. This is strange. I just, I don't know, there's just something about the pee thing. It just isn't really, but sometimes I feel like my mind is closed. Like, if I found out about people peeing on each other when I was like 12, I probably would have been like a lifetime pee guy maybe. Oh, Kelly. I started watching porn in like the fourth grade.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Not like that. I've always seen a lot of shit. So I'm like, I'm like down to try most things. But like I did that once and I was like, okay, well, my nose is not for me. I always said this, though, like the first porn I ever saw on the internet was a chick eating a log of shit. I've never watched one of those and I don't think I. It was an image. And you know the website
Starting point is 01:17:23 would load real slow? Yo, back in the day. And then you could sometimes watch like 30 second previews on the first page or the second page you'd make you pay. And I'm not kidding. This is like 28K modem and shit. Like what?
Starting point is 01:17:34 It really might have taken like a full minute. Yeah, it used to be a long time. For the JPEG of the turd going into this chick's mouth to load. I wonder what effect that had on me. I'm sure. Did you ever eat shit? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:47 You really did? No. Okay. I was like, bro. I said those things I try, that does not fall into that category. That is a different level of nasty. But yo, you know it's the best. I'm never smoking with you again.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Ever do not, Pastor J. Gotta eat a duckey, you want to smoke with me. That sounds like a bar. Very bad about that. Basically, like, I was in Compton. No. Basically, oh, we had a girl on the podcast like a couple of years ago who just straight I've said that she wanted to get pooped on.
Starting point is 01:18:22 That's a different level of freaky, bro. This dude made a TikTok. It's like a weird genre on TikTok, which by the following no jumper on TikTok was we just hit 330K. I can't believe how fast is blowing up. But basically this guy like plays the clip of the girl saying she wants to get a turd, dropped on her. And then he says like, oh, what?
Starting point is 01:18:41 Or like whirr. Like he just makes like some low reaction. Million views. Yo, TikTok blows my mind, bro. It's like the most, some people just do nothing. It's crazy to fucking way. I put a video with my cat the other. I mean, didn't go viral, but it's still got a lot of likes.
Starting point is 01:18:56 I'm like, it's fucking catma. My baby mama made a video making almond milk, and it got like three million views on fucking TikTok. Strange as hell, I don't know. Was it well made? Your old baby mama? No, my new one. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Yeah, she made that. She made that in, uh, yeah, I was like, what a, what a fucking towel or something? Three million fucking views. Then my fucking sister and my dad gets millions of views going viral on fucking TikTok. I'm the only one that can't go viral on TikTok. You're supposed to be the famous one, all the normal people are going viral.
Starting point is 01:19:26 I know. It's crazy. Yeah, I put, like, a few videos on TikTok. Like, last year in quarantine, when I was bored, I was, like, recreating, like, movie scenes. I did Clarissa explains it all. Well, it was a show. Clurisks Explains it all. I remember that.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Oh, you did? That Nickelodeonian, right? Yep. And Beetlejuice has literally my favorite show in the world. She's who I, like, my aesthetic, that's where I get it from, Clarissa. And I did Beetoooo's. Whichy Woman. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Whiche woman. I got to speak to her, Melissa Joan Hart, on Clubhouse last month, and I fucking, like... RIPP Clubhouse. Is it gone? What happened? Shit done. I don't use... That was the one and only time I ever used it.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Clubhouse, I saw a graphic that said that, like, the monthly downloads are like 2 million, 3 million, 2,800K. Like, the number of sign-ups is plummeting. I feel like, I don't know. It was a quarantine thing, I feel like. There's so many things that I look at that I'm like, that's stupid. and I really believe that stupid, like NFTs. I don't understand that, though.
Starting point is 01:20:25 I think they're stupid as fuck. People make a lot of money off of them, though. And I still think they're stupid, and I think none of those NFTs are going to be worth shit, and I'm sorry, but I'm dying with the subpoena. Sell your tweets like Soldier Boy. Yeah, I think it is really funny. I don't understand it much, but it is dumb.
Starting point is 01:20:36 I guarantee you, yes, I 100% believe you that I could leverage my celebrity into selling a bunch of stupid-ass NFTs to my fans. However, I feel like I have too much respect for my fans to try to sell them some fucking snake oil. Integrity. We love it. I mean, they're already making us enough money. It's like, do I got to sell them something bullshit that don't even exist?
Starting point is 01:20:54 Yeah, and Clubhouse, too, I think is completely fucking. I mean, I don't like talking on the phone. I don't like hearing what people have to say. I had a couple of good terms on there. We had like an L.A. room that was like a week. So it was like every fucking L.A. rapper, DJ and shit. But it turned like, I said Clubhouse is going to be bad for Los Angeles. I feel like Clubhouse was a weird thing because when it was small, it seemed like people really liked it.
Starting point is 01:21:15 And then as it got big, the whole cool factor of it went away. Yeah, well, that's what the industry people love fucking feeling like they got something cool for themselves. And that's how it felt. It felt like, this is Joe Budden, Karen Seville, and me, and nobody else. And there's like 10 people listening to us. Yeah, that was literally how it was. And then, but then it was like you got a lot of people on there trying to be experts about shit that it's like, who the fuck are you? The whole thing is that the technology does not stand out enough for me to feel like the platform had a future.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Like, it's basically Zoom, but with no video. and it's a little bit more social. Or like there's chat lines from back in the day when we were kids. And I get it. Like I get, I get why. And I have a reason to hate clubhouse too, because everything I've built with this company and shit
Starting point is 01:21:55 is basically like what clubhouse is aiming for. Oh, fuck you do it. Well, clubhouse is trying to basically make it so that the average person can create something that's basically like a podcast and that it would be easy and fun and simple and stuff. And like, for us, it's like, I don't want to make a shitty clubhouse call where you got 10 people talking over. over each other and yada, yada, yada. I want to actually come into the office and create high quality podcasts of, yes, maybe we're
Starting point is 01:22:23 talking about some stupid shit. Maybe we're talking about eating our own shit and how he used to sell his penis for an 8,000th time. But it's a high quality product is what I'm trying to create. And that's what I get clubhouse because there's so many people out there that are basically like professional like attempted networkers. They're actually like really good at shit. I don't understand how people. I mean, not really good, but they effectively put themselves in a lot of places.
Starting point is 01:22:46 so I get why they would like that. People in the industry would just want to be in the industry so bad that they will dedicate like eight hours a day to like going to concerts and like going to some conference and standing around and just trying to meet a motherfucker rather than, you know, from my perspective, it's like you could just like make content on the internet and if you're good at it, people will gravitate towards you. Yes, yeah. But I mean, I don't know, like I feel like clubhouse, NFTs, suck my dick, you're all the ops. I don't want to. Co-sign all of that Eat poop Yeah
Starting point is 01:23:15 Eat shit In a slow loading JPEG Yeah Hey how would you feel If you went to a party And somebody served a cake And then after they served the cake
Starting point is 01:23:24 And you were halfway through Eating your cake They thought they were shit in it No, come Bro, you just said three weeks in a row I know but I want to know how she would feel That's disgusting We know someone who did this
Starting point is 01:23:34 I know I think I'd be really pissed But it's not like If it was shit That's fucking filthy But I've swallowed cums You probably swallow shit You're here
Starting point is 01:23:42 I mean, just like small amounts, like maybe just like here and there. You know, maybe, I don't know. I had this guy earlier this year, last year rather. He was like, I don't know. I told him like I'm down for mad shit. So I think he got like super excited and creative and he just started saying mad things. And he was like, I'm going to come on a cupcake and feed it to you. And I was like, all right, I'm down for it.
Starting point is 01:24:05 It's ridiculous. But I'll try it. You know, you, we mentioned a cam girl earlier. You and her are very different. podcasters. If you even said the idea of somebody eating a pastry with ejaculate on it, I mean, she would get up and leave the room. Really?
Starting point is 01:24:24 Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Like, I'm like 80 different people in one, but like on the sexual side of shit, like, I don't know. I'm fucking humans and we like to try things. You know, it's like at the end of it. I eat a cupcake now. I ain't never tried that.
Starting point is 01:24:34 He also was like a... You got to eat it though. No, yeah. No, no. He was like a tequila with a shot of cum. That's what he said. Actually, let me find the text if I could. You don't have to go search.
Starting point is 01:24:43 This guy's a genius. I know a girl who went viral because she had her boyfriend bust a nut on a hot dog and she ate the hot dog for her only fans. I mean. Okay, I couldn't do it on camera, but. I'm trying to think about how I would feel if my girl asked me to do that because on one hand, yeah, I'm like down to do whatever and busts in a nut is whatever. But it's the visual of a cum cupcake is crazy.
Starting point is 01:25:07 You know, there's certain things that like, you know, I know how big her only fans is and I know how many creeps are on it and I don't give a fuck and I don't spend like one second per day thinking about it but I don't know there's certain things like maybe the the cum hot dog would just kind of I don't know
Starting point is 01:25:21 I don't think I could do a cum hot dog that's like you know you stop it with glizzies I mean she has my kid it's almost like a certain point maybe I just don't want you to eat a cum dog on yeah what about a cum cupcake though no
Starting point is 01:25:36 you know but then at the same time where's my notes see this is the word of thing It's like if my girl... If my girl were to go actually do really slutty shit, like she could probably be way better only fans, you know? So it's like if she has something she wants to do. But actually, I think she's told me that she thinks
Starting point is 01:25:52 that the eating cum food thing is disgusting. So she's not trying to do that. Like it's not like, it's not something I aspire for, but like he literally brought it up and I was like, I wouldn't say no. Try anything. As you guys are leaving your comments about what you think of this episode, just keep that in mind.
Starting point is 01:26:11 I actually, I'm really interested to know what the audience thinks of our dynamic without the ketamine Crip and with Marissa. It really went sexual. It did. It did. And I actually told myself today, I'm like, let's not go there. This is how she lives her life. Sexual and rehabilitation.
Starting point is 01:26:28 It's education today. I think part of it, too, is that we didn't have any topics for the first, like, hour and a half. And now I do have the topics, and I'm not that interested in them. After Come Cupcake, where do you go? And I mean, to be fair, these are you? are house phones comments that or topics that he wrote down and it might this might be one of the last things that
Starting point is 01:26:47 he ever wrote in his life so we kind of owe it to him to the sky we have to stop joking around to him maybe being dead because we always joke around about it when he doesn't show up and then he's alive does this happen like more often than not or what's the vibe on Josh? Do you text you? No it's kind of becoming like a too
Starting point is 01:27:02 regular thing but you know it's like the audience does like him and we like him and honestly like this is what always happens is that we'll have an episode where he's really present and good on camera. Like the last week's episode was one of the best episodes we ever did. Yeah, I had a good time. This week he's not here.
Starting point is 01:27:21 I mean, that's like. He's giving you take, you know. Honestly, that has happened before too, though, where we would, I would feel like we're on a really good pace with the podcast. And then I would like come in all excited to podcast with him and then he just wouldn't be there. And it's kind of like, damn. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Who is he? Like, what was his background? Like, where did he come from? A horse tranquilizer lab Is where he's from now. I was really following for a second. I'm like, wait, what? He's from out here.
Starting point is 01:27:50 I met him because he was just selling Coke at the club. Oh, right? And not even at the club, but like at the warehouse. Like warehouse clubs and shit. You got to start somewhere. And I was like the kind of guy
Starting point is 01:27:59 who like never had Coke, but I was always down to do Coke. So he just started to be like doing Coke with me because I had a YouTube channel or something. And then like I, you know, when I decided I wanted to do this and start trying to work on building a consistent podcast,
Starting point is 01:28:14 which it took us a long time to even start doing something called the No Jumper show. We used to just do like random episodes back in the day, but he just kind of occurred to me as like a random person to try out. And usually when I try somebody out, they just don't leave,
Starting point is 01:28:26 case and point. Y'all adopted me. Well, we introduced ADA to white people. Dolly pardon. White people will fuck with you? They like you? Yeah. I guess.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Apparently, some of them. White people are cool. If you guys haven't seen it, you should go watch 80's movie review that he just put out. Because it didn't get that many views, but the people who watched this seem to really love it. So it's going to be a slow burning grow, but it'll go. I think we've got to just keep working on it,
Starting point is 01:28:52 not get stuck in a rut, keep fucking with the formula, make it better. I don't know if it would just be you. You're getting all the praise. They said, Adam, he's dope for letting them do this. I was like, fuck him. He didn't like this shit. I openly hated on you and said that you wouldn't do it and that it wouldn't be good.
Starting point is 01:29:08 Yep. And then guess what happened? I actually thought it was pretty good. How did y'all meet? I met him at a video shoot. We were tying up white people. Okay. Right?
Starting point is 01:29:17 You tied up one. Actually, you had nothing to do with it. There was a hired actor who was hired to be tied up in the video. Whose song was it? O3 Garito and Max O'Cream. And it was actually really weird because it was like, I think the day after or maybe two days after X X, X, X, Xen Ticentacian died. Oh, okay. So, 28.
Starting point is 01:29:38 So weird time period for me. because I kind of wanted to just sit around the house and be a bum and be sad, but then I had all these gang members trying to get me to go to this video. So I went and, you know, it did help my mood out and whatnot, but I remember, like, some of the comments being like, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:52 like, apparently I should have been so sad that I should just never leave the house. Yeah, grief is, you can't tell someone how to grieve. And have you been in the rap game for a while, I'm sorry, but you're just like, you're going to get toughened up a little bit. Like, your friends are going to die and you're going to have to keep it moving
Starting point is 01:30:05 because it's not going to be that infrequent that people you know are going to die if you're in the hip-hop. game you know. Sad but true. Anyway, then AD beat my ass, jumped me into the Crips
Starting point is 01:30:16 and it's been harmony ever since. Sounds right to me. Wooop. No, now you just ruin it. Oh yeah, that's not. Okay. You know whoop is like a blood call. There's definitely a blood call.
Starting point is 01:30:27 I do all the gang signs and calls. I learned it from Tidalas sign. If you can make one gang sign, how would it look? What the fuck is that? No, I mean, best gang sign all the time is the blood thing.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Laura was throwing that up too. I mean, that was like the gang sign that I found out about probably first of my life when I was like 13 or some shit. That's what we all find out about in middle school.
Starting point is 01:30:52 I mean, being able to write a five-letter word with your hands and have it actually make sense. It's pretty rare. That is pretty awesome. We used to Crip walk in eighth grade. Yeah, but at once,
Starting point is 01:31:00 all at the same time. Yeah, we don't have nothing like that. Yeah, try to write Crip with your hand right now. I guarantee it's not going to be a snazy. This is the new thing we'd be doing. Good. I like that. See?
Starting point is 01:31:10 Here's like an R. No. No. I think you spelled out K. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. We could do this.
Starting point is 01:31:17 This is an R. I'll ask you a serious question. Okay. Josh. It's not working out. Your pinky is broken. Josh is just a song like, his pinky is like.
Starting point is 01:31:26 I used to always throw up the dip set sign. It might be a gang. I can't never do this one though. Everybody needs to do the Farrell thing. For some reason my hand don't open. What the hell is this? No, you got to go. No, it doesn't go out, not down.
Starting point is 01:31:37 I can't do it. Like my fingers won't let me. This is far as it goes. Because you got sausage. his fingers. Fluffy fingers. AD gained a little weight over the past few weeks, and I think it's made his figures less mobile.
Starting point is 01:31:47 I'm about to lose it again, man. You got to, bro. What is that? That looks like... Because it doesn't... You look like the penguin from the back in movie. He does look like the penguin. Let's roll with that.
Starting point is 01:31:58 The crimine. I'm looking forward to telling my daughter that Uncle Ad is really into the color blue. You keep saying... I just think it would be so funny to, like, kind of like, you know, troll her and this make her thing. you're just obsessed with the color blue.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Oh my God. She didn't meet Kiki before you, so. Kiki taught me. How to gang bang? Some more. Nice. What's it like having those fucking ridiculously long fingers hanging off your fingers, bro? That's got to be big.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Those are not even long. Yeah, these are like short compared to most of the girls these days. I guess it's not like full Cardi B. Yeah, I can't do that. This is about as far as I'll go. But I don't know. I've had nails since like middle school. I can't.
Starting point is 01:32:34 I don't even know how to operate without nails. I'm going to ask you a question. Have you ever put your finger in a butt and had it come out with a big chunk of shit on one of the nails? Oh my gosh. I don't put my fingers in butts. Ever? No. I've licked butt, but I don't stick finger in it.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Look at me. I was looking at you for confirmation. Like, she's all messed up. I mean, yeah, y'all, y'all never got y'all asses licked. Not me. I don't play that shit. You have, you had, of course. He does.
Starting point is 01:32:57 On camera. I don't play that shit. Why? Grow up. He's a fake gangster. Grow up. That's just not me. That's just some line I ain't crossed.
Starting point is 01:33:05 You don't even know what it is you if you haven't tried it yet. It's just a line I ain't crossed. You know what? This is what it's like. It's like, you know how you have a, quote unquote, salad bar Christians? Like basically people who claim to be Christians, but then they sort of pick and choose. Like, oh, I like gay people, so I'm not going to pay attention to that part, but I don't want to eat fish on Friday. So I'm going to, you know, like, don't make any sense.
Starting point is 01:33:25 That's like him. He got out here wearing sandals, kicking in with bloods, wearing red, but won't get his ass eating. I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm wearing red. Crazy. What's wrong wearing red?
Starting point is 01:33:37 I just, my cripping. It's not allowed. Got blue on too. I'm not really a crap. I was just a joke. I used to call him when I met him blue-eyed loke. He's like, stop calling me that. You stopped.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Yeah, I didn't realize your eyes were blue until here. My baby is the blue-eyed log now. Nice. And now I don't even see your eyes blue anymore. What do you see them? They're like gray. You just see love. You see gray in my eyes?
Starting point is 01:33:59 You see gray in my eyes? You remind me of Robert De Niro now. In my way. I don't know. I get no Robert energy for you at all. Like grumpy, angry old man. When I was 19, I went through a short period of time when I was around 19 where multiple different girls came up to me and told me that I looked like George Clooney. Okay.
Starting point is 01:34:19 That was a compliment. And then that just ran out and just stopped. I think I got fat soon after and that stopped. Yeah, you don't look like good. They said I look like fat Chris Brown. Yeah. Yo. Damn.
Starting point is 01:34:32 I never got, I got fucking Louie D back in the day when she was blue me D. Way back in the day. I do not remember. I don't remember what she looked like at all. Me with black hair. Really? Yeah. And then now I get Justina Valentine because we have the same red hair, but that we don't look alike at all.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Oh, really? Yeah. Do you, uh, have, let me answer this. And hopefully this isn't prying too much. Have you ever had sex with a member of Dipset? No, I have not, but I've been obsessed with them since I was a kid. So that was probably why, because I was stalking, that's how I got in the industry. I was stalking them in, like, high school.
Starting point is 01:35:03 And I used to literally save my lunch money because Jewel Santana had a store in Harlem. What was it called again? Santana's town. Yes. Yeah. They had the worst merch. They did. But they were like, it was so cool because no one else really had merch out there like that.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Like his mom to be a hustler like that and open the store. It was 03. She had a message board where we could all talk to each other. We were so easily impressed. It's like, wow, Juel Santana made a white tea that says Santana's town and red font. With paint splatter on it. Bought it all, bought everything in that fucking store. What a young entrepreneur.
Starting point is 01:35:32 I randomly met J.R. Ryder this weekend. This week. I saw you on. The writer of writer? I saw you on Instagram. with him and I'm like, what is going on? This is why I need to leave the house.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Love Dipset. Where were you? O.T. He had an opening. He has a CBD line now. Oh, no. Yeah. Big League CBD. We birthed that. Thank you, Yasser. Yeah. Thank you, yes.
Starting point is 01:35:53 Yeah, it's Big League CBD. Big League CBD. He just, like, base this whole period of his career around her and his beef with her. I like it, man. They both. They both. Was that the episode where he yelled at that girl and, by the way, I mean, like, granted, he was in I don't know. I didn't like his attitude in that scenario. It wasn't nice.
Starting point is 01:36:11 That episode was basically like a litmus test for whether you're a chauvinist or a, you know, feminist, pro-feminist person. Because there's been mixed reviews. That whole get money thing was like, what? I don't know. That shit was. For me, when I watched it, I was like, when I watched that, I was more convinced than ever, like, I don't want to ever drink again. Yeah. People act so dumb when they're drunk.
Starting point is 01:36:33 I was like, I would never drink on no jumper ever watching that specific episode. You're about to get high and be like, yeah. Even then. This ain't hot 9-7, bro. We smoke a loud weed out here. Yeah, no, none of that in that studio at all. You bro smoking CBD blunts. He ain't smoking like us, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:36:47 CBD blunts don't do anything, by the way, but make you sleepy. Yeah, if that. They heal you, though. Not even that. Josh Kesserman from Raw gave us these weird-ass papers with this crazy shit on it, and you have to mix regular weed with CBD weed and the same thing, and it's supposed to get you way too high. We've smoked it.
Starting point is 01:37:01 It got me really high. I don't know, like, how much of it was a placebo effect. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't like CBD and it never did anything for me. I have CBD cookies that put me to sleep all the time.
Starting point is 01:37:12 I like them. Really? They like sugar cookies. They're fire. Maybe I'll try one of those. You think there's any bloods out there smoking CBD and calling it BBD? That's actually fire.
Starting point is 01:37:21 That's fire. You just gave somebody. Poison. That girl is poised. You got like a whole line of shit you do. The poison BBD cookies. I'm not a BBD. You got an ashtray kid.
Starting point is 01:37:33 You've been around me too long. For sure. You're just like, kid. But yeah, he had that store. And that's how me and Karen Civil met, actually. She was at the Santana's Town class as well. She was a member of Jewels.com, just like me. I met my best friend.
Starting point is 01:37:45 I was in her wedding, like off of Jewels.com, literally. That was his website, joels.com. That was it. And he had a message board. How on earth did he get the A URL? It was 03. It was a new time. 03.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Okay, continue. Yeah. And so I would say, so me and Karen met, because they, like, his mom would post on the message board, like, oh, the boys are taping at this, you know, you could get free audience tickets. tickets to that. And so her and I met because we both went to a free taping. I cut school. I was like in 10th grade. And she was like, is anybody here from joel's.com? I was like, oh, me, my username is Madi. And she's like, oh, my username is Karen. And we got cool through that shit. And just, yeah, every weekend I would go to the store. So even when I see Jewel's
Starting point is 01:38:20 now, it's like little sister shit. Like I knew his mom and stuff. So none of them. And like me and Jim are like hella cool, which is the coolest thing in the fucking world to me. Like, because Jim was always like, Jim is mean and scary. You know, like, so he'd pop in. But Dwell's was the young guy that was excited about the new fame and shit like that. Jim was a fucking gangster. So we only got cool like a few years ago. But like to me literally like he commented when I posted when I wrote Columbus Shorts book last year and I posted about it. You're lucky he didn't get you super violated.
Starting point is 01:38:50 Who? Columbus? Jim Jones. Oh, why? What do you mean? You don't remember that when 6'9 got caught up? Oh. The audio recording.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Oh my God. He needs to be super violated. That's what I were like, ooh. That went right over my fucking head. Jim Jones. A little more gang. Brun, like, no, for real. Like, he's about that fucking life.
Starting point is 01:39:07 And so he commented dope on my thing of me and Columbus. And, like, I was happy for a week straight. I'm like, oh, my God, Jim Jones commented. I remember when I was maybe 21, there was this fucking girl that I was friends with. And I was actually friends with it. She had just graduated high school, but she was like a rap fan. And there's a couple different things that we went two together. And we never hooked up or anything.
Starting point is 01:39:29 It was actually really weird when I think about my life. There's like so few girls that I, like, was friends with that I didn't try to fuck at someone. point but I remember there was like a Jim Jones like what was it a fucking a play a play in Manhattan that almost sound yeah he's like you remember this yes it was something like a Jim Jones play yes yes yes yes music bro you just unlock something in my brain that I forgot was there same here same here but I remember I posted about this on my space that girl hit me up she came she met me at the fucking show we went and watched it
Starting point is 01:39:58 I don't really remember enough about it to say much but I guarantee we could probably find information about it on the internet But I remember this girl who was like really green, like rich Manhattan girl or whatever. She goes up to Jim Jones afterwards and just says, Jim, I know you don't know me, but if you want to smoke a blunt, I got five on it. Green as fuck. I'm standing like 10 feet of a couple. Give her the boo-boos. My God.
Starting point is 01:40:29 They were just out here. They had a, oh, by the way, Amber said I had to shout her out. So what up Amber That's how I met you Yeah At rest in peace juice I wasn't sure You guys were still friends
Starting point is 01:40:39 Yeah yeah yeah we went Dipset It was like two weeks ago They had a opening They did a clothing line With her man So Oh really
Starting point is 01:40:45 That's fire Yeah it was some shit On Melrose It was on Fairfax maybe But yeah It was us Jim Cam Jewel Skyped in
Starting point is 01:40:52 Or whatever they do now It's pretty fire Lit You remember Yams from that time period Yeah And Yams actually Rest in Peace as well He had tweeted me one time
Starting point is 01:41:01 Like y'all I remember you from Montana's town. I'm like, that's crazy. Like, we all were kids out there just fucking, and that, but that literally, like, me knowing Karen, Karen ended up getting me my internship at Hot 97 years later, which became a job. I knew another girl that was cool with Mac mate. Like, one of the girls that used to go to that store, she became cool with Mac main because she lived down south. She had me interviewed Mac one time, so I got cool with Mac and put Karen onto that, and then she ended up over there. Like, literally Dipset was like the epicenter of how we all started our careers. That's far. It's really cool how we all, like, graduated from the Dipset class. That is pretty crazy. I worked for French Montana in like 08. I created all his socials
Starting point is 01:41:38 and shit like that. And like that's still like my brother because we knew Max from the store and stuff. I was sitting in my apartment in Astoria playing online poker 10 hours a day reading rap blogs.
Starting point is 01:41:50 Basically during that. And that's why when I look back in my life, I'm like damn, I wish I figured out what the lit shit was earlier. Like I didn't know how to dress what club. You know,
Starting point is 01:42:02 when I think about it, as like I wouldn't have done any of these things if I did know or if I had figured it out. I just wasn't ready for that lifestyle at that point, you know? For me, it was just like me being a fan and just so excited to be around the shit. Like even with the French thing, like, I had gotten an allhipop.com internship
Starting point is 01:42:17 just because I would post on like their message boards and shit and they're like, oh, you write well. Do you want to like try things? I'm like, cool. The rumor section on all hip hop. Shout out to Ilseed, bro. That was a big thing. He was like the OG of all that shit.
Starting point is 01:42:28 And so I went up to, so I hit Max because I started, like, this was 08. French was like bubbling in New York. York and shit. I hit Max like I want to meet French I just I wanted to work I had no idea what to do meant to work for someone but I wanted to work for him anyway and so we went me met up with Max at a strip club and I went up to French like yo I can get you on all hip hop dot com can I work for you he's like all right we started working together like legit hey it helps to fucking put yourself out there man and so like really like all
Starting point is 01:42:53 from dipset shit I wasn't gonna ask this question but I actually really want to know the answer so I'm just gonna ask anyway why would you how would you describe why things ended between you and the J.B. the J.B.P. The Joe Button podcast. What's your version of how that sort of played out? My version is exactly what happened. And he tells these colorful versions. I still love him to death. But like literally, it was about April or May. He started like going off on these Drake Rants in 2016. That was when they were like beefing and shit. Oh, so it was still 2016 because
Starting point is 01:43:24 that's when it started as well. We know. We started 2015. February 2015. Oh, because I was watching one of them on YouTube, the first episode on YouTube. I swear it's a 2016, but maybe they upload it to YouTube later. Because we didn't have a, we didn't have anything. We just had Rosenberg put us on SoundCloud and iTunes. And then, so yeah, like, just randomly he like really got fixated on the Drake issue. And it was becoming like, he wasn't even like letting us get a word in edgewise, like me or Rory really. Like it was just, it was weird times for a little bit. And then one day, I see on Twitter that him and Rory did a joint podcast with brilliant idiots. Like no one said
Starting point is 01:44:00 anything to me. No one like mentioned. And granted, the beef was so strong with hot and power that I probably actually, I might have been able to, but I don't know if I would have been able to participate anyway. You were banging hot. Yeah, very hard. It was very crips and bloodsy back then. So, and so there was that. No murder or anything like that, but similar. Similar. Similar. So close. And so what you call it, Rosenberg was very offended by that because they had their own little tiff to, like, Rosenberg started at our podcast and he like fired him because he felt Rosenberg wasn't doing enough. How many episodes did he have Rosenberg part of that? I want to say 10 max maybe.
Starting point is 01:44:35 Yeah, it was very small. And so, you know, Rosenberg is a very, I love him, but he's a very sensitive guy. So he like goes off on things. And so they had this gay ass tit for tat back and forth. So I come in one morning and Rosenberg was like, I went in on your boy on air and I was like, cool. I literally didn't even ask what he said because I just don't care about their stupid little beef.
Starting point is 01:44:53 Like six hours later I got a text from Joe that said you're fired. Literally zero content. text. There's no, I have no idea what happened. And I wrote back what? And then he wrote back, you are fired. Like he untook the, the apology. And so I called him a couple times and he didn't answer. And I'm like, what the fuck? And so then the next day, Rory calls me like, yo, y'all got to talk. We got to get this sorted out. I'm like, I still don't know what the fuck happened. But to be honest with you, I don't even want to talk because there's no way, there's no mind frame that you can describe to me that makes it okay how he went about it, like at all.
Starting point is 01:45:28 Like any, there's no way you could justify that even if you thought you heard, I said this, that, or the third, the fact you couldn't pick up the phone and have a conversation with me and you just, he was waiting for that. He wanted, I think he wanted an out. So, um, he didn't say anything else. So Rory's like, but yeah, you know, he said like something about like you telling Rosenberg information. I'm like, what is there to tell him? We don't have any behind the scenes info. There's literally nothing to say. So then I went back to Rosenberg.
Starting point is 01:45:55 I'm like, bro, what did you, what did you say this morning that like, like, that, that, that, you're there. made that happen. He was like nothing. I was just mad. He was doing the podcast with Charlemagne and how that you weren't like a part of it and just basically telling him he's a piece of shit. Oh, he kind of went to war on your behalf. No, not even on my behalf. He was offended because Charlemagne, obviously they're the competition and Charlemagne has always, according to Rosenberg, like, shit it on Joe and like, been, and like Rosenberg's like, you've always lifted you up and here you are always shitting on me, but then you go do a joint show with Charlemagne. I think he just threw me in for a little razzle dazzle and ends up like that. And then, um,
Starting point is 01:46:28 So were you like super upset at that time? No, because at that point the podcast had gotten so fucking weird because of the Drake shit that I was like, and I think more so than anything anger took like, you know, when you're really angry, you don't feel sad or anything else or whatever. So it was more angry like, Doug, you've been my friend for like years. I've lived with you. Like, what the fuck? You don't even give me the courtesy of a phone call. And so then we didn't, he never called me actually. We never actually had like just sat down and had the conversation.
Starting point is 01:46:58 Then in August, so that happened early July. In August, he was promoting an album he did with ARAB music. And so they were talking to Ebro about coming up. And Ebo's like, yeah, come up. Mind you, I work there. So obviously, I'm going to be part of the conversation. And later, like, the fans ran with this whole, like, we ambushed him on the morning show or some shit like that, which was ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:47:20 There's no ambush if I fucking work at this radio station. But anyway, so he comes up and he does the interview. And it was, like, a really weird. He's like, I don't care about Rosenberg. I don't care about Marissa. I don't know. It was a strange interview. He had some weird justification.
Starting point is 01:47:36 Kiss me on the forehead, walks out in the middle of it. And then that was it. And then like a year later, I ran into him on a red carpet. He's like, the narrative he ran with was something about Drake, that Drake was a conflict of interest, and that Hot 97 was a conflict of interest. The Drake thing blows my mind. I never spoke about Drake. I don't know Drake.
Starting point is 01:47:53 I've met Drake maybe two times. I have no opinion on Drake, whether positive or negative. I think he's a very successful, great young man, and that's all I could say about Drake. I don't dislike him, I don't like him. So he ran with this something to do with Drake narrative, and then the other one was just that Hot 97 was a conflict of interest, and I was telling things or something like that.
Starting point is 01:48:15 And that's literally the whole story. There's no other further background information that I did something. That was it. And then we got, like, we started speaking again, like late 20, 2017, Revolt was like bringing him in. And so like, you know, him and I started speaking again. And like, again, that's my friend, like for a lot of fucking years. So like more than anything, that shit just sucked like, because I really, I enjoyed the, this.
Starting point is 01:48:38 I was mad excited about coming here today because I'm like, yo, this is where I'm my best version of me. Like just fucking talking shit with dudes. Like I grew up around a bunch of boys, hot 97, nothing but boys. So like podcast was like, I don't know. That was really fun to me. So I was fucking sad. And then I started my podcast just because. People were like you should do one now because you got off of his.
Starting point is 01:48:57 But I don't know. I don't know if I felt like that. It never felt like what I wanted to do. I felt like I was what I was supposed to do. Did you feel like there were issues prior to that in terms of your communication that he wasn't like getting what he wanted in terms of the rapport and whatnot? No. We had no fucking issues. Like he I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:15 Like I truly, I mean, again, he'll, he's very well spoken and he can convince you that your name's not even your name. So he'll make it sound really well, whatever. version he's going to tell you but there's literally no more to it i think he just didn't want me on anymore and that was that interesting and that's how he went about it hmm so how'd you feel watching the the recent nearer i literally blowout of the crew i turn all that shit off you kind of just don't pay attention i haven't muted on my timeline like i just don't want like like that should really fucking hurt me and like like and then like they put it on they get the deal with spotify there's 77 episodes of me on spotify i don't get a dime for
Starting point is 01:49:55 that no one had a conversation with me about that that shit annoys me too like that sucks but then again it's like cool y'all could get introduced to me then on that you can go back and listen and do shit or whatever but yeah I don't know weird shit interesting
Starting point is 01:50:10 but I think it happens for the reason so I'm happy for it It's easier to forget how much more turbulent being a Joe Button fan was back then It's like that's actually what kind of shocked us about you know when the Rory and Moll shit happened was just like, oh, we haven't seen a lot of like conflict in Joe's
Starting point is 01:50:32 business or personal relationships in a while at least like in terms of the content. You know, it's like, but, you know, being somebody like, I've literally been like observing Joe's career since I was like 18 and it's, you know, it was always just like something crazy happened. Something new, different like, you know,
Starting point is 01:50:50 it just seems like he's in like a better space in his life and it was interesting to see that kind of flare up, even though it seems to ultimately worked out, you know? Yeah, I mean, he's been front. Moll, like, mall's the fucking shit dog. Like, Mall, we all used to live together in 2011. Joe, he had this big ass crib in Jersey. It was me, him, mall,
Starting point is 01:51:07 bunch of random girls. We had the fucking time of our lives. But Moll, we used to always tell him, too, like, move to L.A., like, go be a comedian, bro. You're so fucking funny. We were just like, you're wasting your talent, just fucking hanging out with us all day. And so, I say that to say, he's been friends with Moll for, like, a very long time.
Starting point is 01:51:22 Like, Mall's been, like, so I wouldn't. I don't know. Rory was a newer friend, but they're really tight too. Do you think AD has mall energy? I don't know how to answer it. You don't remind me of mall at all if that answers the question. I just see people like try to. Go compare him to the mall. I see people try to always like place us as like which JVP member each of us is.
Starting point is 01:51:43 Oh, we low key. Well, at this point, you're right now. You're Joe. You're Rory. He's Joe? He didn't even talking. At this table. He's the black tooth at the table.
Starting point is 01:51:52 I'm just based on that. I'm the me at the table. You a hate it. You want to be Joe so bad. Oh. suck his dick. I think it's pretty clear that I'm kind of the engine of this podcast, which I'll give you that.
Starting point is 01:52:03 I mean, I'm leading it. I think his show is dope. Like, as far as all of that shit, too, like, I have to say I don't fit into that landscape. Like, I can have a rap combo, but I can't hang in some of the conversations that they have. Like, it's a very different energy with them, and it works for them. Like, it's, and I'm
Starting point is 01:52:19 glad I had to walk so mall could run. Like, you know, if anybody was going to take my spot, I'm super fucking happy as mall. Like, that shit is dope. I don't fit in that space. And it's weird, like, it's weird deciding if a weekly podcast where the goal is rapport, which is what I would say is common between this and Joe Bunn's shit, is that the goal, what we're really aiming for is to just, like, create a vibe between friends.
Starting point is 01:52:45 Yeah, like, that's so good. That's what makes a show so good. That's definitely the thing that people like about his shit. But that's kind of like a decision to be made is that if you have a woman, at least one of the, cast members, then it could potentially appeal to a lot more people because like with my girl, when we stopped having Camgirl be the co-host, she said, she even acknowledged, like, I think your flow podcast-wise is better now, but it's kind of less interesting to me when there's not female energy in the room.
Starting point is 01:53:14 I got a lot of women fans from that shit that were just like, oh, I love that you speak your mind and talk about sex and you don't care. Like, you know, it was a different, I don't know if he wasn't into that as like that kind of attention for the show. maybe he had a different vision for it as well. It is like you said, it's different. So I mean, guys act different around girls. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:31 It was different conversations. No, I don't. Yeah. You're being on quiet and stuff. If people at home see it. Because you're talking about something I know nothing about. So it's better to shut my fucking mouth. Yeah, I feel like he's been talkative the whole time.
Starting point is 01:53:43 It's just this conversation. He's just listening like they are. You do have to respect when somebody doesn't volunteer their points unnecessarily. Because that's like a huge thing when you're kind of like judging somebody as a podcaster. Like if somebody will just stop talking when it doesn't have anything to do with them, that's like a huge. Trust me. Every podcast, something you told me like, this is going to make a better podcast. I probably stopped it right away because I want to be the engine.
Starting point is 01:54:10 He has weird. Oh, you want to be the engine. He's planning a coup. A coup? Yeah. What the fuck is a coup? A coup is like when you, if he would like take over, like take my spot. A coup?
Starting point is 01:54:21 Is that a coup? Coo. Yeah, look that up. I thought it was a coop now too. They were roasting Candace Owens because she said coop on stage when she was meant to say coo. I think it's, I think it's coop too. It's spelled that way, but it's not pronounced that way. I think Yuri will probably join me.
Starting point is 01:54:40 So it's a silent peace and stuff like that. Now I'm hoping that I'm not wrong. Josh, am I right? Is it a French word? Yeah, I think. It's Coop, right? Coop. But look at the pronunciation, K-O-O.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Oh, you are right. We are all right. We are all right. A sudden, violent and illegal seizure of power from a government. That's what AD is planning. A notable or successful stroke or move. No, I asked him this, though, because I said, out of all the personalities you have in no jumper,
Starting point is 01:55:15 like, if something was to happen to you, God forbid, who would you have to run this show? And then you said, you're probably the best choice. I mean, when I watch these prison shows And I watch how like, you know I would say yes Like if we think of this as a prison gang You seem to have sort of prison gang
Starting point is 01:55:34 Well, I'm just Or if you think about anything Oh, like you're talking about the ring You talk like a ring still Yeah, yeah, yeah Because like you see like on 60 days in When they send these guys in It's like you just figure out
Starting point is 01:55:43 Hella quick where they stand In the pecking order, you know? True And it's pretty crazy And yeah, but I mean in terms of on camera I mean house phone Not showing up 30% of the time is
Starting point is 01:55:55 that makes him being the leader kind of hard to imagine in a way. Like the leader kind of has shocked. I was honestly like seven I was seven minutes late for the interview I did before this one and I was thinking that I'm like it's crazy how this doesn't matter at all
Starting point is 01:56:15 like I could just be late every fucking day. But I don't but I never am like I was seven minutes late and I couldn't believe it. But it's like, you know, the guest is going to wait if I'm late. Facts. Of course, I mean, it's like I'm in charge. I can't be late.
Starting point is 01:56:31 You know, I can't be late. Like, it's seven minutes late one time. Okay, that's fine. But if I was like consistently late, it would seem kind of crazy. It's a bad for business. Yeah. AD's got a little bit of a lateness problem. No.
Starting point is 01:56:41 You know, no, no. It's in his blood. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. We're going to talk about that, too. For one, I'm here more than anybody. Correct. Besides me on camera? I always have tire problems.
Starting point is 01:56:54 Tire problems. Tire problems? He fills his tires with cocaine and drops to Mexico. Sounds right. Whatever works for you. I was just kidding. He does not actually do that. No, but one thing I can say is, in the mornings we filmed this Snapchat news show,
Starting point is 01:57:10 I'll either come on time and Adam is late and he's not here. I'm never late. Yes, you are. Me being late in the morning is like I'm five minutes late. You are sometimes like a half hour late. I still, yeah, that's just true. But. Well, it's either all or nothing.
Starting point is 01:57:26 You give me a little late. We used to do it at 10 in the morning. I still get the notifications. Me too. That's what it says to my phone every day. 10 of the morning Snapchat. Even though I know it's not at 10. Yeah, we should probably change that.
Starting point is 01:57:38 No, I said, no. Keep the 10. That's like an alarm for me now. If I get too drunk for the night before. His manager had to talk to him at one point because he was coming in with wrinkled shirts on and shit. Oh, my God. I talked to myself. What's the wrong with you?
Starting point is 01:57:50 And I had that conversation with Housephone. I said, originally I used to come in just like fresh out of bed. You know what I'm saying? Just whatever. Now you take this seriously. Then I said, you know what? And I told Housephone this, I said, when we are on camera, we need to give 110% to the audience. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:58:08 Put on your uniform. You know what I'm saying? Put on your, I said, I'm Batman. I put on my back cape and I want to entertain the people. And then when I go, I can do whatever. I mean, yeah, when Housephone does come in, that is one thing, though. You can say is that he's pretty into the fit. Like his fit is always on point.
Starting point is 01:58:21 Yeah, like, who wants to... He usually shows it off on camera and talks about it quite a bit. Who wants to look at somebody three, four times a week and be like, I want to be like this, bum, and like, nah, you want to be like, I like that guy, like his energy. I want to be like him. Kids look up to show like that. I wear the same shit every day. So, so was this, this is a conscious effort?
Starting point is 01:58:38 You look nice. You know what I'm sure? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm about to get more change. We're about to get more jury. And we're going to do this coop. Black, no jump are coming soon? This coop.
Starting point is 01:58:48 I feel like, yeah, you should definitely come in frozen every day with Brian Pumperjules. Do you put any thought into what you wear? No. I wear the same pair of pants for weeks until my kid pukes on them and then I switch them out. I consciously put on this goosebumps shirt. I thought that was cool. That's spooky. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:06 And then my earrings. Shut out R.L. Stein. Bro, the goosebumps show, the theme song is one of the best beats ever. Goose bumps, you said? What's the goosebumps show? You didn't know that goosebumps have a show? Was it on Nickelodeon back in the day? No, it was not.
Starting point is 01:59:20 Are you afraid of the dark? No. It was on PBS or one of them channels. It wasn't on... It could be. I went through a period of time where I was buying a hell of goosebumps books, but then I started like all kind of seeing the same
Starting point is 01:59:32 and I was like, why the fuck am I buying all these? I was more a babysitter's... Not of the Lema Dummy. People would come to the... People would come to school with a whole box set of goosebumps, like a whole... Remember the say cheese and it had the skeletons in the house? It was like a photograph and everyone came out of skeletons.
Starting point is 01:59:45 I always remember that cover because it was very bizarre looking. He remembers. Back in New Hampshire. And then I made my own goosebumps board game. I used to just make random shit like that. That's fire. I still have it.
Starting point is 01:59:56 Have you ever been in a shootout? I don't believe so. No. Which is surprising to me. And I only saw someone do cocaine like in the last two years. I don't know how I've lived such a crazy life and a sheltered life at the same time. Yeah, but I feel like in New York like in a lot of social circles,
Starting point is 02:00:13 well really in a lot of social circles in general, it's just like people just don't do coke. and then in certain social circles, it's so completely normal. And I feel like it's more of a white thing to do coke. And I don't have a lot of white friends that's so like, I guess knowing that's a big Coke. I say mixed because I see a lot of black people do it now.
Starting point is 02:00:28 Yeah, me, well, now I feel like it's a little more kind of like, oh, fuck it, we're just going to do some Coke tonight. Because it's like a, it's like a sign that you made it in life. Yeah, honestly. Like if you're so far away. Now you're with the white people doing Coke, you're out there. Because, yo, if you live in the projects and you walk out of your fucking apartment every day and you see crackheads,
Starting point is 02:00:44 yeah, you're not. Coke's got to seem a little less appealing. Exactly. But if you can make it in life to the point where you don't have to see crackheads and that's just like something you're not thinking about so you can just go do coke and not realize that you're kind of like exhibiting the behavior
Starting point is 02:00:57 of these motherfuckers who live on the streets. I mean, the only reason I never tried it because I have addictive personality when I get on that. I literally, well, is that plus I'm scared like I'm going to be the example of like God makes and he's going to just kill me on the spot. Well, right now that may happen
Starting point is 02:01:12 because they're putting the fitting on everything. Exactly. You don't fucking know what you're in that shit. But. man-made things, I mean, Earth made things only. Weed and shit, which is all I'll touch. Well, no.
Starting point is 02:01:21 Tequila. Oh, yeah. Well, I don't even really drink you. Who makes tequila? Probably men, right? Well, I guess men make Coke as well. Yeah, but they also put things in it and like lines and shit.
Starting point is 02:01:31 I don't know. Right? It's all natural things. It's all natural. You know, but I'm laughing at you for saying that, but like, I remember seeing gunplay doing Coke in, in Columbia in a video on like the rap blogs back in the day.
Starting point is 02:01:43 I remember that. I thought he was the crazy. craziest motherfucker on earth because I'd never seen anybody do coke, like, especially a rapper. Yeah. I had no put. He gave that a single fuck. He scared the shit at me. He also, there was video of him knocked out in the club or some shit.
Starting point is 02:01:56 He was wild. And I remember like, that was crazy for me too. Like, damn, like, you're the actual popping rapper on this footage of you laid the fuck out in the club. That is pretty rare. Like, I had never seen that from rapper before. He can happen anybody. Rap was definitely, like, his random side hustle. That was not even his, he definitely was like a fucking crazy trapper.
Starting point is 02:02:14 He was definitely like Rick Ross's guy that he brought around. He just happened to be able to ride. Oh, Unka's going to go take a little pee break. Damn them shorts are riding a little high. You might want to pull those down. He's showing a little too much of knee. A lot of kneecap happening. I think I might have seen the tip poking out the bottom of his shorts.
Starting point is 02:02:32 I was honestly worried. I was going to have to run to the bathroom at some point too. Like that, because that colonoscopy prep is crazy. You've been peeing a lot all day? No, that was yesterday. Today I'm good, actually. So there's no real fear. Doing podcasts has really let me know a lot more about my bladder than I knew before.
Starting point is 02:02:48 I'm really, I can hold a really long time. I cannot. When I'm doing these podcasts, two hours, that's kind of it. And then do you break or you end? Sometimes I'll take a break and go pee, but, you know, sometimes I just use the pee as like an excuse or like a, like in my head, I always know how long it is too. So it's like, in my head, it's like, if I have to pee at the two hour mark, it's like, all, let's just end this. because it seems like a good time to end anyway. Two hours is a good commitment to what you were doing.
Starting point is 02:03:16 I mean, when you make it really long, you're kind of like asking a lot of people. Like if this is three hours long, I just, I look at three hours and I'm like, eh. Like, what is it was four hours? Four hours is way too long. I don't listen to really any podcast, funny enough, not even my own when I did it.
Starting point is 02:03:31 So I couldn't commit any of that time. I know. It's a lot, right? Like, that's always kind of amazed me. I'm like, damn, I got 200,000 people to watch a two-hour fucking podcast. And then, like, think about, like, they're probably, I was thinking about that the other day, like they're probably sitting in a room with like multiple family members
Starting point is 02:03:46 just tuned in to what random fucking shit you're saying. That's so cool. That's why TikTok is the fucking best, because we'll do an interview that gets like 100,000 views, and then we'll put it on TikTok, and it'll be like five clips that have millions of views. It's such a good feeling. Oh, my.
Starting point is 02:04:06 I just thought I stopped before y'all because I was like, let me not get stupid. But like the idea that like you can get that, many more people to watch like a one minute version the freest marketing in the motherfucking world is so great why is fuck is tictock so nasty with the virality so crazy i don't understand how it fucking works i really don't either like because i now we have like a pretty big platform on tic tic but i spend almost no time flicking through the for you thing you learn a lot from flicking through that for sure i can't even be bothered which i hate all these things i've become a hermit crab
Starting point is 02:04:41 What? It's a long story. Oh, wait, that's a blood thing, right? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. My big V's just, she's hanging out with divsa and all that. You know, I got a chance to ask out,
Starting point is 02:05:02 actually yesterday I said, so, because she was saying that she never sold a pussy to rappers. And I said, I'm like, you said at one point that you charged that Jim Jones paid you $800 for some She goes, that's not true. I never even met him.
Starting point is 02:05:16 I just said that because Jenna said told me to. Wow. I'm like, wow. Wow. Just laid it right out right there. Yeah. Yeah. I honestly, I can't wait to drop that interview, but also at the same time.
Starting point is 02:05:26 I mean, it was kind of sad. We spoke to her when she came to Hot 97. You did the last interview with her, I believe, right? Oh, yeah. I don't know. It was like 28. No, because it was Scotty Beam and Rosenberg and Ebro. Yeah, yep, yep.
Starting point is 02:05:38 I was standing behind Ebro randomly and the thing. Oh, you were in there? Okay, okay. Yeah. It was a. I felt sad for her too. Me too. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:46 She's lived a very tough life. Yes. She's definitely a product of her environment for sure. Big time. But I mean like, and you could see why like the Selena thing like is so clearly kind of model on the cat stacks thing. She's so similar in terms of having this like terrible childhood sexual trauma. And then, you know, basically getting into a lot of the same shit as Cat Stex.
Starting point is 02:06:06 The thing is is like Selena like makes being a hoe seem fun. Cat Sacks highlighted the drama and the attacking people, but she never really made it seem like sexy or fun. It seemed awful. It seemed like a life no one would ever want to live. Yeah, Selena makes it like it's a joyous day. Her party. But Selena's going to burn herself out because all these dudes
Starting point is 02:06:28 know exactly what she's bowing. They're either not fucking her or they're hella on edge. I don't have no problem. He's scared the death of her. She disappoints me though. I saw like one of her. I used to like watch a couple of her. She intrigues me so much.
Starting point is 02:06:41 I was like watching her YouTube. videos one day. I just like trying to understand this girl because she'll have these moments of like real clarity and like wanting to be a better person and not wanting to lie on people and then she just turns around and does it again. I don't know. Yeah. She um even when we were just uh doing her podcast together she's just like talking about her life and at one point she's just like I'm just a whore. I just want to suck date. That's all I care about. I feel like she doesn't really deepen her heart. I mean I know you too well. So later like you can't just say that shit to me anymore at this. point of me knowing you and expect me to just accept it bro like it was kind of i don't know
Starting point is 02:07:17 yeah i was almost a little disappointed when she said that because i'm like you you got to keep a real than that with me i know you too well that's yeah that makes i don't know i feel i feel sad for her i mean i fuck with her and i she's getting money i'm happy for her but yeah she's not really happy that's the crazy thing about like every girl who was like a broke ass ho in the 2000s there for for them now there's a rich ass girl with the only five fans. Yes. Like,
Starting point is 02:07:45 Holy fans are changing lives. If you willing to pull a titty out on camera, then you can live comfortably and probably better than like all the guys you know off of your only fans. It's a strange thing. I don't know who the dudes are who are cop and all these only fans because I, how often do you hear a dude just say like, oh yeah, I got her only fans, her only fans and her only fans? I don't hear about it.
Starting point is 02:08:04 I don't know. Yeah, but that's, yeah, but that's, yeah, you must have one because all these girls are rich, but you never talk about it. What you mean? I'm just saying somebody's got to be copping all these only fans there's a lot of people yeah
Starting point is 02:08:16 all these guys who are right here Trev he said they don't got one no lying my homie told me this weekend lying my homie told me this weekend he coped somebody's only fans
Starting point is 02:08:26 I forgot who it was I was like have you ever like subscribe to a porn site back of the day yeah I've paid like $10 before and then they reoccurring
Starting point is 02:08:35 really bill you so I get charged like a few more months ASAP I'd be horny as fuck wanting to see that one video One of the worst things that ever happened to me. I'm just going to air this one out. This is a sad tale for my life. So there was this girl Naomi who actually ended up dying of AIDS.
Starting point is 02:08:52 She was a porn star, and there was this whole crisis that happened where a bunch of different girls got AIDS and she died from it. But she was a white girl with a huge ass back in the day. And I just saw her on a porn site at one point and just got kind of a little fixated. Like if there was Only Fans back then, I definitely would have cop their only fans. Like I was just jerking off to this girl all the time. And I remember that, like, I'm just looking on some porn site, and I just see, like, her first anal scene. And I had never paid for porn in my whole life.
Starting point is 02:09:21 And I was like, I got to see it. I copped it. And, but I, so there was two options. There was like a month. Let's say it was like a month for $12 or you get three days for $5. And I'm like, bro, I only need to see this shit once. I'm going to fucking, I'm going to pay my $5. I'm going to cancel it the next day, right?
Starting point is 02:09:40 Yeah. The next day I'm out riding my bike, I fucking fall and I fucking smash my kneecap. I shatter my fucking kneecap and it gets all infected. I end up being in the fucking hospital for a week. And I'm looking at my email because I had my fucking friend bring me, like, wait, how did I check my email? I forget. Either way, no, I didn't have any way to cancel it because you didn't have email on your phone back then. This was like early 2000s.
Starting point is 02:10:03 I had to call the homie and be like, listen, I need you to go on big giant asses. whatever it was. I was like, and it said, like I looked at what the reoccurring, I knew already, that it was going to be like, they were going to keep charging me
Starting point is 02:10:21 10 bucks every three days or something. And they're like, you know, I'm like fucking cheapscape my whole life. I don't want to get fucking charged a dollar. I don't have to get charged. I had to call the homie and ask him to unsubscribe
Starting point is 02:10:31 to this fucking site for me. Oh my. That hurt my pride a little bit. I did one recently. It was like puretaboo.com. They have like really good storylines. because I like, I hate the bad acting and I love, I need the plot because that's what makes me like, that's the best part of it. So Pure Tabu was like high quality cameras, like really fucking high quality and like really weird scenarios and I fucking love it.
Starting point is 02:10:55 So I paid like $10. It was like last year. Did it deliver? It did. I've really enjoyed all the videos. So shout out to that site. You ever beat off? Mm-hmm. How is that? Who hasn't? Right?
Starting point is 02:11:07 Like what? Shine the helmet. Your face like you didn't know whether it's. the laugh at me. Like, you didn't know where to go with it. I mean, no, I just told him before that I'd rather fuck than jack off. Like if a woman is around, I'd rather fuck the woman than jack off. He thinks that was strange. I don't know why. That, that, why would that be strange?
Starting point is 02:11:28 Wait, what? Remember before? He was like, you do beat off. And I was like, bro, if you got a pussy lined up, you don't have to beat off. Oh, no, no, no, no, yeah. My argument is just that masturbating is so simple and so casual and easy and fast that I mean there's many times in my life like for instance this morning in the shower at 9 a.m. where it's
Starting point is 02:11:50 like the news no you know it was in the shower I know I'm sure I was fine by the time I got here and we just fist bumped anyway you know it's like I'm not gonna like bother my girlfriend oh stop breastfeeding put the kid in the high chair come in the other room with me that's different I'm in the shower I'm gonna fucking shirt off it's gonna take me
Starting point is 02:12:10 three minutes and I'm going to get a huge stress relief and I can go about the whole rest of my day without thinking about my weir. It's like good endorphins actually. It's like good for you. I do it almost every morning. Just in the bed. I don't need any toy. No, I just sit lay there. You got to get your human needs out of the way. I don't want to be hungry at work. I don't want to be thinking about fucking at work.
Starting point is 02:12:26 I don't like the bus on the mornings. It makes me just tired. Well, I think it's different. Yeah, but he drives the Home Depot every time he jerks off. And he sits in the parking lot in his car. For the box of Kleenex. I would love for you to ride a lifetime
Starting point is 02:12:40 story about my life because your version would be fucking amazing. Every day would start at Home Depot and end at Home Depot. Do you really like that story or do you? No, it's just like what he tells people about me is like so crazy and so untrue. He has nice teeth though, right? He does. Yeah, beating off. All right.
Starting point is 02:13:01 Just let it happen. Oh, man. Is there anything else? We definitely didn't cover any stories. We did talk about nothing today. We talked about so many things Do you want to know what These are the topics
Starting point is 02:13:13 The Housephone sent through That I don't care about talking about Hopefully he's alive Housephone please come home Yeah Don't make us feel like assholes for Oh also I have something so good That I got to tell you about
Starting point is 02:13:25 That another interviewer told me That I probably shouldn't say on air Where is it? Where's Housephone? Boom Okay, these are the things he wrote down Jack Harlow Club Shooting Which we already talked about on the news little mosey turns himself into police
Starting point is 02:13:39 I didn't know this not really that interesting like doesn't really tell you much Lil Yaddy sells 15,000 do you listen to the project? The project? Oh, the album? He sold 15,000 units Yeah. I didn't hear it but I actually like it more than the last time we talked about it
Starting point is 02:13:54 I had to listen to it another time. I heard it on the party bus his weekend and one of the songs was cracking Yaddi's fire I mean yeah AD was raised on the party bus Cuondo Rondo gets shot at in Georgia. I mean, you knew that was coming. That was going to happen. It's Atlanta.
Starting point is 02:14:11 I mean, yeah. It's not super surprising. His boy got hit, I guess. It happens. Yuri's birthday. Happy birthday, Yuri. What were we going to talk about? Yuri's birthday.
Starting point is 02:14:25 Other than his birthday. He went to San Diego for three days with his girlfriend. And he wasn't here. Yeah, we didn't have anything to do with it. Him not being here. here really meant that we didn't, I mean, we didn't get him anything, which kind of sucks, but we gave him the day off. That's who we gave him. His day otherwise would have been sitting here on stream. No, he was here Friday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He wouldn't want to miss a Friday.
Starting point is 02:14:49 He loves Fridays. He does. Um, yeah. Yeah. No, he also wrote down, I'm new Jay Z and Nas, DJ Cald's song. Are we tired of old school rappers? I have not listened to the album. Who said that? That's what he wrote. That song is fucking fire. I haven't heard it. I got to listen to that project. That nigga Nas said, what do you say? He's cryptocurrency, Scarface, something like that.
Starting point is 02:15:11 They just flexing the accolades, which is dope. You're easily impressed. Nah, the accolades. Old rapper talks about something that, like, is new. Wait a minute. Cryptocurrency. I don't, no. Nod says cryptocurrency.
Starting point is 02:15:22 I'm impressed. No, I'm just saying a lot of people don't know that Naz does a lot of fucking investments like the eye ring shit and all type of stuff. So to hear him talk about shit like that, that's not the average I rap trap or sell millions of records and shit like that
Starting point is 02:15:38 like I'm getting dumb money off or something else other than right you better have some goddamn cryptocurrency if he's still paying Calice like
Starting point is 02:15:44 300 grand a month or whatever that's fucking crazy I feel like they lowered it though at some point I think I remember hearing that too that's like the highest
Starting point is 02:15:49 shit I ever heard yeah other than 50 get your money sis he also hell no Drake Chromehart's Rolls Royce
Starting point is 02:15:57 that was fine I have no idea what he's talking about and I don't care he got Chromeheart interior all in the Rose Royce cool
Starting point is 02:16:05 that's tight it's hot it's hot I took a shit this morning nice I had a call and ask of me this morning like Drake getting like a new
Starting point is 02:16:15 custom chrome hearts item is like as as normal as me taking a shit in the morning so I just I don't I don't know how much conversation we could really make about him having something nice
Starting point is 02:16:27 for the five millionth time after the jet what else is there I wonder if it's boring for him like what else can he fucking do? Ew. Ruined marriages. Hey, man.
Starting point is 02:16:38 That was funny, though. A lot of people liked what we said on the news about that. He did him a favor. Yeah, he did him a favor. Basically. Watch a sitch, man. We're going to introduce you to those guys C-Mack the Loke.
Starting point is 02:16:51 Okay. Hey, Tony. Like a wonderful person. You will love him. I think you're definitely going to want to start having sex again once you find out of this stuff. Maybe you've got a conjugal visit because he's very long. God damn.
Starting point is 02:17:01 He's looking for a baby mama, though, I believe. Does he pick out? apples? Yes. Okay. Will he appreciate my seasonal decor? He actually mostly eats at Popeyes from what I can tell. Okay.
Starting point is 02:17:11 I eat very healthy, so I don't know if that would work for me. I watched Kelly Muscle eat Popeyes doing ASMR on Sunday night when I was getting ready to interview him. And watching him do ASMR and eat Pop-I's made me order Puppas in that moment. And Popeyes is so gross. It's so salty. Blast for me. You need to go.
Starting point is 02:17:33 You need to go. She cannot be here if she was going to say terrible things like that. I don't like it too much. Clearly you have a lot to learn about hip hop-ups. We like pop-ups. It's just we've decided. As a collective. Don't you feel like everyone has just kind of decided?
Starting point is 02:17:48 It's widely adopted. Last Friday you've seen that shit I bought? We had like a whole Popeye's platter for everybody. And I actually didn't touch it. Yeah, you show didn't. Everybody else did. Because I had meal prep. $80 worth the fucking money.
Starting point is 02:18:00 I don't really. I'm more like a buffalo wings. than like a fried chicken person. So maybe that's why. Yeah. I guess I could see that if you were from like Cambodia and you didn't grow up around all this amazing fried chick. You don't like wing stop?
Starting point is 02:18:15 Whoa! When's the last time you had KFC? First of all, you got any love for it? I don't need KFC. Unless you want to sponsor the next and those other show. I got food poisoning from fucking KFC like 10 years ago. I don't think I had it sense.
Starting point is 02:18:27 What did you eat there? I used to get that mass potato bowl. Who the fuck goes to KFC and get that? That sounds pretty good. Sounds pretty white to me. It does sound white. That's what I fuck with Taco Bell. Del Taco.
Starting point is 02:18:40 Not me. I've literally never, someone has asked me, I've never been in Del Taco before. Maybe you and AD can head there after this. Maybe they have apples there. They won't be on trees. It defeats the person.
Starting point is 02:18:52 Go apple picking. They have apple pie. They do. We have to physically pick the apple and make the pie ourselves. Where do you find this orchard? All over in Jersey. They're everywhere. But how about that idea?
Starting point is 02:19:03 You go to Popeyes, you get the apple pie, but you empty out the apple filling, and then you go apple picking, get your own apples. Can we do that as a segment for the show? And then you fill the Papa's crust with the apple chunks. You glue the apple pieces again. If you did that on the first date with a girl, she's giving up the nookie. She's going to fuck with you. Definitely fucking, just off the creativity alone. She's going to be like, this guy is the greatest guy I ever met my life.
Starting point is 02:19:27 Amazing. Definitely would fuck that out. You should be a dating expert. I am. I'm the new Kevin Samuels. Adam Pannels? Paniels? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:19:36 That was bad. He's way too hot. All right. This has been good. Hopefully House Phone will recover at some point. I don't know. It's like you just have to wonder like at what point is it okay for us to like be like,
Starting point is 02:19:49 bro, if you're not going to show up, we got to like, you know, that's just kind of like the bare minimum. Maybe he fell asleep. He probably did, but he always says that. Oh. Maybe he's got a problem. Maybe he's narcoleptic.
Starting point is 02:20:02 No. Maybe. He does a lot of drugs all weekend. And then on Tuesdays still kind of... I'm going to say that next week. I'm not going to be like a state of recovery. Hopefully the homie is fine because I'm going to feel bad if something's really happening. And now I have to search the jail website again for him.
Starting point is 02:20:19 There's no chance he's in jail. Still in the horse medicine? He was texting us all energetic about doing this podcast earlier. What are the odds? They fell asleep because he was fucking up all weekend or that they caught him. Doing this and that. I'm sorry. The odds of them getting caught up are so much less.
Starting point is 02:20:37 PETA kidnapped him. Peter? What if it's like a fight with a girl? Sometimes you just like go off the charts when you're really sad. That's a real ho-ass shit. I'd be way more mad if it was if it was beefing with a girl than if it was ketamine. That would be trash. Who's doing horse tranquilizers?
Starting point is 02:20:55 Allegedly some people have. Okay. AD does it too. No, I don't. They actually had to get rid of the Compton Cowboys because they didn't have any horse tranquilizers. I get rid of him. Shout out to the homies. They got a Tommy Hillfield commercial right now.
Starting point is 02:21:08 I've been watching it and be seeing it. The Compton Cowboys? Yeah. Fire. I got to wait for my kid to turn like two so I can bring her to Compton and take her on those horses. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:17 Are there horses in Compton? Oh, yeah. I can just picture my girl right now. Maybe we could go to a farm in the valley and not go to Compton. Maybe we don't have to go to Compton with the baby. You just love it so much. You went twice this year.
Starting point is 02:21:32 I'm going to go. go again. I'm just drive around at night. I'm going to bring the ponies out again. Oh, yeah. I don't know if I've been to Compton. You should go. You want to go for a drive? You should not go. You should not go. I mean, there's not much for me to do. Oh, I did. I had to go one time for an interview. That was it.
Starting point is 02:21:49 Not the Popeyes? No. This has been the No Jumper Show. Appreciate y'all. Bye. We'll be back real, real soon. Riding horses in the hood with the Compton Cowboys. Go watch.

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