No Jumper - The Ocky Way Rahim Interview: Blowing Up Making Insane Sandwiches, Viral Catch Phrases
Episode Date: November 21, 2022Rahim talks about his come-up, his rise on social media, working at the corner store being the worst, oversize sandwiches, and more! https://www.instagram.com/rah_money1/ 00:00 Intro 0:00 What is the... "Ocky Way"? 2:34 Rahim on first coming to America and introduction to social media 13:19 Day-to-day at the bodega and how the deli was Rahim's nightmare 18:04 Blowing up on social media for crazy sandwiches 24:00 Rahim's thought process on seeing videos go viral 27:38 The ordering process for the Ocky Way 30:31 The dangers of working at a bodega in the hood 37:20 "What is it about Middle Eastern people that makes them so good at these corner stores?" 38:57 The relationship the community has with employees at the bodega 45:54 Making food for DJ Mustard and Ty Dolla $ign and getting hit up by Drake 47:25 The weirdest and biggest sandwich 49:17 Rahim explains where he got his famous catchphrases 57:12 Handling success as a content creator 1:03:08 What does "Ocky" mean? --- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No jumper.
Coolest podcast on the world.
And for the people out there, when we were out in New York and Boston doing our trip,
one day, AD and house phone just go off.
And they got mad inside jokes that I don't understand.
They're saying mad catchphrases and ad libs that I'm like,
sure, sure.
I'm like, what is this?
And so then they send me the link and I dig in and I realize that even though I think I know about everything on YouTube,
Here's this dude out here with like a million subscribers
Making sandwiches and just changing the game
So I got familiar
And when I found out that you're coming to LA
I knew that we had to have the conversation
I really appreciate you have to have you over there man
And first of all I want to thank my brother
Chinat Mac
For everything you really know
Shut out to China Mac
The heart of New York
God bless him and bless it so
Man the heart of he's bridging the gap
Yeah
Bridging the gap man
I think I think he's bringing the East Coast
energy to LA and integrating it
very good way. So you
tell me, since I found out from you, how did
you find out about him and his channel?
Okay, so first of all, man,
this is a blessing
to be sitting here with General Ack himself, man.
The Aki way, the only way.
I really appreciate you, my brother.
So I'm not even going to lie to you. I never really was
like a food guy on watching videos, at least, you know?
Something about watching
food on the internet, it just makes me hungry.
and it makes me be impulsive.
So I usually don't watch food videos, right?
And I think that I'm,
I think that we're too old to be on TikTok.
But, I'm on it.
So follow Avenue 22 on TikTok.
Absolutely not.
Okay, okay.
But like something in me won't let me like look at TikTok videos,
but what I'll do is I'll watch YouTube.
I'll watch TikTok videos on YouTube shorts.
Right, yeah.
So I'm watching YouTube shorts one day.
and I think I've maybe seen
you make like two or three
sandwiches
the Aki way obviously
The only way
The only way
And the only thing is
It's dangerous
I fell into a rabbit hole
After watching one or two videos
I went for maybe about two hours straight
At like two, three in the morning
I watched every single video of yours
And then I realized that you
own the bodega
that you also work there
and I just became
completely
real damn man
fascinated
much love my brother
so hey
all right let's go all the way back
tell us how you grew up
let's start that
before we even get into
how you got on social media
or working in the Vodega or anything
all right
I came in this country in 99
okay from where
I'm from Yemen
okay
came straight to North Shore Atlantic
that's where I started at
went to school out here
dropped off of high school
I had four months left
dropped off
You just wasn't feeling it or what
I was not a school person for real
To keep it honest with you
No I was just a working man
Always had the vibe just for work
Yeah
So I used to like
Even when I was going to school
I used to go right after school
Straight to work
Don't care about homework
Nothing I ain't worry about it
What was your first
Like official
job. My first job was just
really? It was a corner so yeah
I started at filling up disorders
and cleaning up the shelves.
How did you get the job? Oh it's a family
thing. Okay. You know.
But you really worked your way up.
Yeah, you know, little by
God is good now. I started this
you know, pandemic outside of the social media
me screaming at my little brother while he's
on the phone. Right. But wait, okay, so how long we actually
working in the store and then when did
the social media thing coming?
I've been working on the store since you could say
officially started working since 2005, like having a job.
Wow.
Until 2020, August, June, June 29.
There's the day I was screaming my brother, you know, why are you on your phone?
Yeah.
Like you had, he's like in the back recording you?
No, no, no.
He was in the counter.
working while I'm in the dully
was slow as a Sunday
so you know me
barking at him like yo get over your phone
I don't want
my family partner
started looking at the cameras and start
like yo you're not doing your job you're on your
phone basically so if you're working in a bodega
that you're expected to not be on your phone at all
at all very very little
that's kind of crazy just because you should be able
to find something to be doing with your time
yes you should you should be doing cleaning up
or do something because in a bodega
there's always something to be done.
It's never nothing to be done.
It's never ended.
Never.
So is it your family, is it your parents or is it some other family members who own the place?
This is family members.
My family members.
Okay.
And so you're just working for all these years.
And are you, you never went outside of that?
You never thought, like, oh, I'm going to go try to do something else.
You were just really focused and actually, like, I'm going to fuck.
Because I'm going to be real with you, going to bodegas my whole life,
I've always looked at the dudes working.
and there, and especially the guys who I see
every fucking day for
10, 12 hours, whatever, and I've just always
kind of wondered what the lifestyle was like
and what the mentality was.
No, I
won off, I took up
from Bodegas in
2008. I had
an opportunity to work
with the cigarette company in
Staten Island. I worked it for
like four to five months.
I liked it. They was
giving me no five days good pay.
They gave me a car.
What were you doing for them?
Delivering cigarettes.
Like it's a company, candy, cigarettes.
Oh, okay.
Delivering it.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm wondering, what cigarettes are they manufacturing and standout?
A wholesale.
Gotcha, gotcha, got you.
You know?
Yeah.
So I liked it as a job.
But at the time, you know, I was, you know, when you're a teenager, you're at age of 18.
You're a crazy wild kid.
So I decided to go back home at that time.
I was like, you know, part of the time.
time for me, I think, to go back home and get married.
Oh. You wanted to go down a whole different life. Yeah, yeah, I was doing too much at that time,
you know. You were a wilding? I was wilding, wild. Define wilding? Uh-huh. I was going to say
I would really like to know. He's whaling. I had a period. I was wiling. I just wanted
know how hard you were wild. Yeah, I was going to say, as being a Muslim, you know, and
coming from another country and what I was doing back then, it was like, it's crazy. He's
You was in the hookah lounges or what?
A hookah lounges ain't nothing, man.
That's nothing, brother.
He's saying that it may not be wild to us, but it's wild to his culture.
I was always with the crazy people around, you know.
Right.
Just like I was in high school, you know, and all that high school, I don't have you
have no, Presby High School, Presby High School.
In Manhattan?
No, no, it's in Eastern Parkway in Franklin.
Okay.
Right?
So that school basically was all Crip school.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
And I have, like, the old Eastern Park was like a communal of old crypt.
I was over there and everybody loved me.
I have love for everybody.
And we had this one kid that came to the school, and he was getting banging blood.
And you in the school were old crypt people at.
So basically, you know, everybody going to look at you.
They want to get you.
So I used to talk to some of my men's like everybody, like I used to have.
them and talk with them like,
yo, y'all can't just jump a person.
Go one to one and you know, call it a day.
That's if y'all want to fight.
Y'all can fight all about one out of one.
You know, that's how.
You was mediating it, yeah.
Yeah, so one day we was,
so I noticed shit was going to happen, you know.
So I went to school.
It was something like, you know,
I had a little piece on me, went to school.
Ah, okay.
You know?
So I was making shows.
Yeah, so they, one time, like, that was my man.
Like, I looked at it.
He was a cool person.
So I know stuff was going to happen.
You probably saved him, honestly.
Trust me.
That's over there.
So we went to the bathroom.
So I was like, you know what?
Let me go around with him.
And I know already they was getting together going behind him to the bathroom.
So boom, as soon as we hit the bathroom on lunchtime, like 10 to 15 people,
came in, Crips.
And they're all my people.
And I know all of them.
So I was like, all everybody.
So y'all know what's going to happen.
If y'all want to do what y'all got to do,
it's going to be one-on-one-on-one and that ain't nothing going to happen.
So they kept it official.
They fought like four people.
They swash all the beep between them.
And it was gone on a regular day.
You're the fucking mediator.
I was about to say that that's pretty bold to you to put yourself in front of harm's
way like that.
Yep.
And another time I had, like, when I was in the same high school, I was, it was Ramadan
fasting, so, you know, we don't eat.
We was in a lunch break as well.
And, like, they always leave the last table for me.
That's for a ride.
He could go there asleep, nobody bothering.
Everybody's chilling, eating, you know, on the other table.
So I'm sleeping over there as a new kid.
Big, big, big, motherfucker.
Yeah, he's a big guy.
Motherflower, I like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's a big guy.
So he came and said, by me.
So I told him, yo, excuse me, if you don't mind, I'm fast than I'm Muslim.
He went to throw the F word and such a set.
Yeah, F, U, S line, whatever.
I was like, all right, no beef, no problem.
I have a guess.
You're a new kid.
You don't know nobody.
You don't know who you're messing with?
No, I'm not going to tell him somebody by it.
I always show love to everybody.
I don't have no type of bad vibes towards anybody.
Yeah.
Always got good vibes.
So I spoke to him in the beginning.
And then he throwed me with the crazy, you know, vibes.
I said, I have one of my right-hand men.
He's the biggest kid in high school.
He's like, yo, what happened?
I was like, man, nothing happened.
Because I know.
If you tell him, like, it's on go mode.
Ain't no taking that back no more.
Listen, look what happened.
So, boom, I told him what happened after.
I was like, he ain't say nothing about it.
He was just not.
He's like, all right, don't worry.
As soon as we get out of, we're going back to classes,
we're going up the stairs.
The one that I saved
and my right-hand man,
he's a crypt.
So as soon as we were walking up the stairs,
they swatched him,
take him like three floors down.
Like, well, he was
falling, dropping.
Broke his whole leg.
Yep, they wild on him.
So it was, boom.
We go back to classroom
and there you go.
cops is coming. The teacher already telling us, you know, which I did.
We didn't do anything. My man was telling me, yo, let's go. Let's run. I was like,
now if we leave, now we're making it hot. We're going to make whatever it's going to come towards
us. The church is going to be doubling true. You never know. Just let us stay here.
And let's see what's going to happen. So they came. They was like, they called me out,
such as us, they called my man out there by us, us three. They took us there. We went to
Bucking, downtown booking. We got locked up.
for what, 12 hours.
So the parents had to come take us out.
Wow.
You know?
I went out, went to court.
So the judge asked me, he was like, Mr. Muhammad,
this kid is just saying, because he put all the blame on me,
because he came to me.
Of course.
I was like, listen, you, my honor,
look at me, how toothpick I am and look at this guy.
What I could do to him?
He's just slipping the stairs.
I ain't know what happened.
him. He's like, ah, you got
six months probation. Don't you see
him? You walk down the other side.
I was like, I... So that's why I dropped
out of high school because they were trying to
transform me to another school.
That was all crazy school,
high school. I was like, you know what?
To head and I'm good with education.
Okay. But so do you...
Have you mostly, like, managed to stay out of trouble
in your life? Was I from that situation?
Yeah, yeah. I stood away
from everything. Okay.
Definitely.
I mean, you definitely don't give me
me like the vibe of like a kid that was at school trying to start problems or breaking the
motherfucker's leg in the stairwell I was not nothing to that but this was it was coming towards me
yeah for real so now but you but you maneuvered it the right way and obviously you you like
damn near charmed your way through it I changed my whole life you know I'm always always you
know love to get to know people and meet people you know I was and yeah I was I was gonna ask like
So what is your day-to-day like when you wake up and you go to the bodega every day?
Like, what's the process?
Every day I wake up, the first thing I say, al-hambil-la, thank you, God.
All praise to Allah, you know.
I thank him for making me wake up and my energy come fullest.
Like, hey, today I'm going to meet new people.
Today I'm going to be at my job making new different types of sandwiches.
I keep thinking of creating all different types of sandwiches.
I hope it will never come a day die
I won't have no ideas
See, okay
I don't think that's possible
It's interesting to me
Because a lot of people
Who work in a bodega
Probably are just like
Whatever, I'm just trying to make it through the day
I'm just grinding this out, whatever
But you talk about it so differently
Where you like love the creativity
You love the connection with the customer
Have you always been like that
Or was there a certain point where you just started
To really appreciate it in a different way
No
I was working for so long
in a bodega
In the corner stores
That's how we call it
In New York corner store, regular
I was at the point
Like
Delhi was my nightmares
Seriously like it was my nightmares
They used to tell me yo
My older brother used to tell me
Go do a couple of hours in the deli
I boost you up double the pay
What I usually pay you for the hours
I was like listen
Even if you give me a hundred dollars an hour
I don't want it
No
You're just over it
Like, I was over because I know how to do, like, I started it and filling up sodas, cleaning up shelves,
make sure the lights is clean, the vans, and, you know, you have to keep cleaning the signs.
Like, I used to love that job.
So the time, I'm sick and tired of it.
I moved on to the deli.
Start cooking.
It get crazy, especially when it be too busy and you by yourself, most of the time in the deli.
You're trying to make a million in a row.
You have 20-15 people in a line like, and everybody's ordering.
all different types of food.
Right.
And then you got to full up the deli,
you got to clean the deli,
you got to do all that yourself.
Right.
Like, it's a lot.
It was like the most intimidating part of...
Yeah, I was like,
yo, I'm good with deli.
I don't want to do it no more.
Moved on to cashier.
Cash is the most headache, too.
Like, basically, you using your...
Like, I know you're not dealing
with a lot of customers,
like, oh, you get grabbing them
if they want a pack of cigarettes,
they want candy, they want this,
or they want to pay for their ships, you know?
But you always have your eye on the camera for people who are trying to steal.
Always having your eye on the camera for people that you never know who's coming in, trying to rob.
That's what it would be happening in New York.
Right.
You got to keep your head on the swivel.
You already know.
So how did you figure out, though, that you like doing the deli more than the other shit?
It was at the time that I said it was a pandemic.
It was no work is there.
I always like I can never pay back
My older brother he always
Have my back no matter what
Like well I was fucking up
Always got my back
Traveled always got me
Never said no
I open check
Like yo I went to Jabuti
I was spending $67,000 a month
For no reason
Like it was no restaurants out there
Nothing
You heard and make a phone call to him
Hey whatever you want
So at that time when I seen it, it was no workers.
And I said, I was like, you know what?
F-it.
I'm going to work.
I'm going to hold the deli down.
And then when my little brother started coming, you know, helping a little Saturday and Sunday,
he came through.
He started helping.
But I was seeing him, I'm a person that I'm not a phone person.
I do not like the phone.
So you working with me, and I see you doing something wrong.
I'm going to speak about it.
I'm not going to stay quiet.
I know I'm not the owner.
but I will not see something not doing right and stay quiet, no.
Right.
Like get the job done so we could all be done.
If you're not doing the job and I'm done with my job,
I still got to go do that.
Everybody's, so you're taking time out of everybody.
Right.
So I made sure, so the pandemic came Sunday such as that,
then me looking at my little brother all the time.
I see people stealing while he's on the phone just like this.
Like, no, no, that's a dub, a little bro.
you can't do that.
Right.
So he's like,
all right,
give me your phone.
I was like,
for what?
He's like,
just give me your phone.
Took my phone,
download TikTok.
He's like,
you know what?
That's what I'm always doing.
Start doing your thing that you hate.
The thing you hate was the deli?
Right.
My nightmare.
Everybody knows that was.
And did you have no experience
on social media leading up to this?
Nothing.
You didn't even have it to like look at Instagram?
Nothing.
Really?
Wow.
Nothing.
Seriously.
Like I had Facebook, but
Facebook was a long time thing,
but I was never doing it with it, nothing.
I was just checking my friends from high school.
That was it.
Sam was up to your cousin every now.
That said, yeah, back home.
Sometimes like a messenger, you could call to back home.
So you start looking at TikTok, and what did you think?
So when he downloaded an ad for me,
it took me two years to find out what's my password.
I believe you.
Yeah?
I believe you.
But, like, did you?
When he first downloaded it,
did you,
were you the one that was like taking an initiative on making the videos?
Or was he making the videos for you and you were posting it?
Okay.
So when he first do it,
when he first download the app for me.
I told him,
so what do you,
what I do with this?
Yeah.
I ain't know what to do it.
He's like,
okay,
he started then like the first video too,
and I had my little nephew as well,
like the same age with him.
Our partner's son.
So he's,
they started.
I started doing my video.
So they were like, okay, you're going to cook?
Have you?
Yeah, the first video, you're going to cook
and we're going to record you.
So I had my slogan in the beginning.
Yeah, you were just starting it up.
Just starting it out, seeing what I'm going to say,
you know, how it's going to go.
They did the first two videos they did it for me.
And then the third one, I did it in my own self.
I recorded Delhi how I was looking, you know.
I was like, hey, TikTok, this is the Aki Dully.
I hope you like it.
Come through.
You probably start to like gain a sense of pride about it because you know you've been taking care of it so long
You kind of conquered like the I didn't like this position and now I'm like that's my heart yeah no exactly so
But did it start going off right away?
My fifth video you can say I did a bacon egg and cheese on a honey bun
That's what that's the my video that was that was the first one the first like crazy sandwich crazy sandwich up
So oh yeah yeah were you doing weird sandwiches before social media or did social
media make you start doing weird sandwiches.
Okay, before social media, this, like a bee daddy, everybody used to come get it with cheese.
But some people do like lettuce and tomatoes, you know?
Make it like a whole sandwich.
No, just like lettuce and tomato with the cheese.
Like that's the meat of it.
The meat that's inside the beef bag.
Okay, okay.
Because the beef patty traditionally just has ground beef in it, right?
And so, like, even adding cheese to it, a lot of people look at that and they're like, oh, that's not how a beef patty is supposed to be.
But then I see you just innovating the fuck out of it and just doing whatever, which I was like, that's because the beef patty is kind of boring on its own.
You're right.
I trust me, I'm a person that I don't even like to eat a beef daddy with the meat, the ground meat that's in there.
You got to freak it.
Nah, I had to do something.
I used to do turkey sandwich in there.
Oh, really?
Yeah, take the meat out of it and do turkey, cheese.
And I don't use to cut it.
See how now I like, I open it, cut it and half.
No, before when I, like, before the social media, like, I take the meat out of it.
of it, make sure it's crunching, and put turkey and cheese, lettuce, tomatoes, salt,
purple, and vinegar, call it a day.
Okay.
And so then, like, what was the, like, you were doing weird sandwiches before?
Before, about not, like, selling it or...
You were just doing it for yourself.
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, like, you know, you're a deli man, so you want to try a different
things.
Right, but it's like, I would imagine working in the deli that in reality, you're just swamped
with customers, everybody wants some basic shit.
They want a bacon, egg, and cheese.
they don't want like they might have some little different ingredients that they want on it or something but for the most part you don't have enough time to be doing creative shit while you're in there right but but now are you guys are actually selling that type of shit like that's all on the menu because you're promoting it on TikTok
you come on Saturday on Sunday you'd be waiting two hours on the line really seriously like my line will go around why so what's what sandwiches take the longest uh it's not takes longest like you have a whole lot of people and like
A regular sandwich would take us like turkey sandwich.
It takes us 30 seconds.
Slice it up, open the bread, get it ready, one, two, a three.
I'm not saying a two-hour line for a turkey sandwich.
I'm just saying.
By the Aki way, like now, is it take us like, let's say, every sandwich take us five minutes?
Right.
Probably because you're going to heat up the Jamaican patties.
You're going to take it out.
Scoop the meat out.
Then you're going to cut it.
We're going to fry the mozzarella sticks.
You're going to fry.
We're going to throw the bread on the grill with the peppers and all that you know.
And you know what?
to hit it with the Cizon, baby.
Come on, man.
Stop playing with me, man.
But so when you're working and you have a two-hour line,
how many people are on the grill with you?
I usually have three to four people.
Oh, so you have a bunch of people helping, okay.
When I started, it was by myself.
Then I had another one that's my right hand,
Khalil, he's back home.
But we waited for him to come back.
Right.
That I could travel more often, you know.
Okay.
And so can you ever just leave and let them do it?
You have to be there every day?
I have to be there. I work seven days.
What about right now?
Right now, I had to post on social media.
But like the sandwiches are going to be a little...
No, no, no, no, no.
I told them, like, I have two of my...
I have one of my nephew and one of my...
The protegees.
The protegees.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, because if you really want to grow this thing,
you're going to have to get a whole crew of people
that could do the same thing you could do,
even if it's 99%, 97%, you know,
you're going to have to get people that could really hold it down, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
That's why it took me a whole, like, long time.
See, this is...
my first time coming out of the store.
Ever.
Wow. Not ever.
Since, like three years now, since I was back home three years.
I went to grab my wife and brought back here and my kids.
That's how you boss up, for real.
You know?
Yeah.
So I was working through since I brought back three years, you can say, till now.
Right.
I just took off.
So what's going through your head as a person who's never really been on social media
when you first get a million views or whatever it is on your TikTok.
Like what's going through your head?
It must be a weird fucking feeling seeing all these comments from all these people.
You have no idea who they are.
I think this is a blessing from God.
As always, I think, like, God opened a door for me and told me, like, hey, you going to do your thing?
Or I'm going to close this door on you.
So I think I'm going forward me.
I'm pushed hard as I could.
and always put in my mind
it's always going to be another level
It's pretty crazy because I mean
Who the fuck have you ever heard of
That made it up out of the bodega
And like took running a corner store to another level
Because like you could own a bunch of corner stores
Yeah
But I mean what are the options
It's like we haven't seen that many people be able to really make something out of that
But I think that's the thing that's so appealing
About your platform is that like
Before you we really never
seen this before. And I'm not going to lie. I've seen a lot of copycats, you know, people doing
similar things. And I'm not going to lie. That's what made me subscribe. Like, okay, like I said,
I wasn't really a food guy on YouTube, but I had to subscribe to yours specifically after I realized
I was watching other videos that was the same style as you, but it didn't have that personality.
It wasn't the Akiway at the end of the day. You feel me? So I'm like, okay, like you, you took it a
step further by like branding yourself along with the business and that just in turn helped grow the
business but it's kind of like out of not out of the way but like we're staying in what Manhattan
yeah it was kind of like a like a little trek it was a little mission so does that ever cause like
a problem for tourists when they come to the city that don't know nothing about new york they're like
oh i gotta find it trust me i have tourists that came like when they like when i said because i always do
like when people comes through,
and I always told them, like,
well, I always speak with them where you are from.
And they was like, listen, we even,
some people came to my store
without them not knowing about the Akiway.
Like, they would go to,
yeah, they went to, like, on the internet
where the best place to eat.
Right.
Ackyway pop up.
But so, that must have been weird for you
because it's like, you're just working there.
And then all of a sudden you start fucking on social media
and you're bringing in a ton of customers.
So your family must have been looking at you like, what's going on?
Like all of a sudden, it's like you're worth a lot more to them
because, you know, you're better than just putting the sprites on the shelf all of a sudden.
It's like, no, you've got a real ability to bring customers in on a different level,
and I'm sure they're seeing it in the cash register every night.
So how does your relationship with them kind of start to change or did it?
Like, man, they used to be in my ass before, man.
Really?
Yeah, so like I used to tell them, I can I go home to an hour early?
No, you got 12 hours of shift.
You got to do your whole shit.
Now when they start seeing all this, I get to come in whenever I want.
I get to do whatever I want.
My rules in the store.
Hell yeah.
Everything.
So I ain't know you could talk to me.
Talk to me nice.
Talk to me nice.
I ain't trying to tell them that, but that's where they're like the whole thing switch up.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, they used to.
to get mad sometimes, like, they told me to do something.
And it's not my job, really.
But they know I would have it, I get it done.
But is there any kind of conflict?
Because I'm imagining that they're pretty traditional,
like most bodegas are pretty fucking traditional.
Like, just it's pretty much the same.
Every day, year after year, you just don't change too much.
But then all of a sudden, you want to put all this crazy stuff on the menu.
How was that conversation?
Now they want to take up.
They want to take the first menu off.
They just want to put hockey white menu.
Wait, but okay, this is my question, though, about the whole, like, ordering process.
So it's not like you walk up and there's, like, a sandwich called, you know, like the raw,
and it's like a pastram-mead, Philly cheese steak.
Oh, so you have to freestyle it.
No, literally, that's the whole ordering process is you walk up and you free and you tell him what you want.
Like, you told me, oh, I want a chop cheese or a steak, but freak it out for me.
Like, do what you got to do.
Right.
So I go and do a little touch and tour, you know.
Throw some tachies on that bitch, throw a damn waffle underneath.
You bring a pie tall.
You bring a honey bun.
You bring whatever.
Like, I make it happen.
Like, somebody came the other day.
He grabbed the Chico steaks.
He grabbed the apple pie.
He grabbed the, what you call it, some tachis or cheetos.
He's like, yo, make this the hockey way.
What?
Seriously.
Like, they called me.
That's what it was.
order that was requested while I was not there.
But that was,
who was in the deli,
hand me up,
yo,
what I should do with this?
It's like,
common sense.
Chico sticks,
you know where you could throw it on,
a pancake,
crush it up,
you know?
Throw in the batter.
And make pancakes,
Chico steak pancake.
Great idea.
Okay?
Chop that apple pie.
Chop it up.
Make sure you chop it up little pieces like...
Can I bring my own ingredients?
Yes,
as long as enough of full.
I can.
Yes.
So I can bring my own.
Cheetos? You can bring whatever you want.
Or I can like, like, I feel like that
the food code or like the local
health inspector might have something to say about
that. Like that seems kind of risque
to be able to be like, here's some rotten
ass food that's been sitting in my fridge. Cook it
for me. You can bring a pizza, whatever
you know. Doubling down.
No, I think
it's better if you get the fresh ingredients
from the Ocueway.
From Red Hook?
Food Curve, man. Red Hook
Food Curve, man.
You got that good.
Boar's Head?
You already know
all the time
is a hood.
Red Hook is a hood.
Thank you,
China Mac.
Shout out to
motherfucking China Mac
man for taking
me and AD
to the hood
to Red Hook
to go visit
the Ockyway.
I don't think
that they,
him or AD
both like
really understood
my level of like
fandom.
Okay.
So AD is a fake
fan.
No,
no,
no, no.
AD is obviously
a fan,
but I'm saying
I think that
they were surprised
that I really
knew this much
about, bro.
They were like,
So, okay, what's the vibe like?
It goes down over there?
Are you worried about crime?
Is there crazy shit happening outside?
I don't think you could have stepped to Red Hook back then.
Me?
Anybody.
I don't think I've been there back in the day, so I don't know.
I'm telling you, Real Hook, I got my, like, my grandfather, rest and peace.
You heard from my mother's side.
Right.
He was out there before all of us.
His name is Charlie.
You go in the hood, Red Hook.
You say, yo, you know Charlie?
They tell you, like, that's our grandkids.
father. Like that's how much respect they had
for him. You know, so
back in his days when he was
there, you see
dead bodies. People call
cops, cops can come in to her and
grab the dead bodies out there.
They didn't want to come in. It was that
crazy. It was that crazy. Right.
In my own eyes,
somebody get lit with two banana
clips in front of the store.
Wow. What the fuck. Yes. Have you been in
situations that may have you feel like you were in danger?
No, one time I got, like, I went me and my buddy that I grew up since young, young, since really two years old.
Right.
Like, he, he knows him, I think, from school.
So he used to sell them the psychic phones.
You know, but the psychic phone?
Oh, God.
That's the worst era.
Yeah.
For real.
The psychic phone, so he bought one from him one time.
And he was like, yo, he told him, I got some more.
I got the PSB, the PSDs, whatever.
PSPs, yeah.
Yeah, before, like, those old games, I got some Nintendo, I got some more phones.
He got everything.
Yeah, if you want to come because he had his white boy, you know, that was his white boy that had all of this because his father had a store.
So he was grabbing them from his father's store and putting them in the house.
He was like, if y'all want, could come with me to his house and you could pick whatever y'all want.
He was like, all right, he called me.
He was like, yo, you come on me.
You know your mom.
I was like, I ain't going to leave you too.
I took $120 with me that time.
But one thing I had on me, my mom diamond rings on my finger.
Yeah.
So we went, we took the train, then we went down, we took the bus, then we started walking.
And my head already, this is a plan, this is a setup.
Right.
So I'm just going, I don't want to tell my man like, no, I told you, I'm with you.
So we're going.
So whatever is going to come towards us, we're going.
we're facing it.
So we went down.
He's like,
all right,
so they guys in this house,
but on the side.
So me,
my boy and the kid
that brought us there,
we over there inside.
Now another kid
come from the other side
with a hand in his hand.
Like,
I,
everything.
Yeah,
so everything,
let's go.
So my man's was shaking already.
I was like,
aye,
I could have everything.
It doesn't matter.
So I,
Boom, boom.
So the kid is looking at the ring.
I was like, you know, you got to take that.
I was like, listen, it's one thing.
Take everything you want, but I can't give you this.
This is my mom dude's ring.
Like, I was worried about mom, you know.
She ain't know I had it.
I was rocking a hot ring.
Oh, shit.
That's a very out of ordinary thing to do.
I'm not going to lie.
I've never even thought about throwing my mom's wedding ring on.
It wasn't how old.
It was hot down.
Oh, it was my father.
Yeah, yeah.
I was going to say, bro, you're tripping.
I used to wear my mom's gold.
jewelry and shit all the time. Really? Yeah, like when I was a kid.
Bro, what? I had no idea.
Bro, I was steal my mom's like, like, fucking Michigan, like, university crew neck.
I was steal shit from my mom all the time. I still jeans from my mom before.
Yeah? Yeah. Damn.
Like vintage Levi's. Like on some like baggy shit, you know?
You're starting to make me wish that my mom had more drifts.
So, for me, people that, they was, okay, they told, that's what is the funny part of it.
when we was getting robbed
so they was telling my man
like took you
pulled you the jeans up
and started like shake them
yeah shake them
but he did
guess what he did Adam
what he did Adam
what he did Adam
I don't know
he poured him down
he took it
he just misunderstood
he was
he was so shit
he came to this country
performing
oh man
and I so he told he's
shaking pen
so while he was
taking out
I was laughing
you're like you laughing
I was like, this is not a funny butt.
Like, come on, bro.
Wow.
So, boom, they were trying to get the ring.
I had to hand me behind my head with the gun.
Oh, shit.
I don't know.
So I think I was too worried about my mom and I was not with it.
So they ran, you know, so they had the money.
They took the phones that we had, everything.
But they didn't take the ring, though.
I had my mom ring.
Oh, yeah.
But you're selling the story just because it was an important lesson about how you should move around in this area?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
you already know.
Yeah.
That was such a terrible era in life.
Like, were these people older than you?
Were, like, they older than you?
They was older than us, yeah.
Bro, listen, this time in life was so terrible because there was no morals.
It was like grown-ass, 30-year-old men pulling guns.
I got, the first time I ever had a gun pulled out on me, I was in middle school.
I had a sidekick, some grown-ass men, pull a pistols out on us and robbed us on the street.
Middle schoolers.
Middle school.
For the fucking sidekicks.
I'm like, damn, you can even rob a nigga.
your age.
Never, never, never.
Never, never, never.
Yo, let me ask you something.
So you're Muslim.
Yes.
So you don't eat the pig?
No.
Turkey bacon only.
Does it bother you having to handle so much
bacon and ham and whatever
while making the sandwiches?
Is there any kind of concern at all there?
I ain't going to lie all these Arab
that's in this country.
They all serve pork.
Right.
You know what?
There's none that are so hardcore
that they won't do it?
Like a lot of,
The one that's on the Dines, they don't play.
Right.
They don't not play.
Like, even if you have ham in your store or pork,
they ain't not even walking to your store.
Right.
You would be at a huge disadvantage if you couldn't use bacon.
Let's be real.
That's now.
Seriously, like,
Oh, you don't now?
No, no more.
Really?
Yeah, I keep it up.
I didn't realize this.
The sandwich that I got out there, it was turkey bacon.
No, turkey bacon.
It's pretty good.
And beet bacon.
But if you're like a regular.
Be bacon.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, but everybody they taste, they'd be thinking it's pork bacon.
It's meat bacon.
If you don't tell them it's beef bacon, and it's a mine thing, it's pork bacon.
And so you're doing this because you just feel like you've made it to the point where you don't have to use that?
So you might as well just not do it?
No, we stopped, let's say, well, now.
Over 10 years, stop serving pork.
Oh, 10 years.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
About every Arab serve, the majority of people are beside the ones that are the only dean that don't play like.
Right.
They don't play with them.
You're from Yemen.
No, yes.
Is there something about Middle Eastern people that makes them really fucking good at this job?
Or that they just have the work ethic to hold it down?
What do you think it is that they just dominate this category of store?
You see how we are back home is hard.
It's hard for us for living wise and everything.
So basically back home, people carry rocks behind their back.
And they're not even getting $10 a day.
Yeah.
You know, and working for eight, nine hours, just carrying rocks from bringing up to the,
two, a second floor, third floor, all day long, cement, you know, or digging big, a big place of hole.
You know.
People, like, some people, they get on a photo with the machines, what they call it, the cat, whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah, they don't, they can't form, so they bring people, dig, boom, like, I give you 20,000.
in Arabic, 20,000 basically compared to $100,000.
That was back then.
Now, 60,000 compared to $100.
To do the ditch?
To do the ditch?
Just like, what is the value of?
60,000 to one?
It's $100,000.
Or to $100?
$100.000.
That's great.
What the fuck?
So you're saying that, like, your people come here and it doesn't seem like a bad
deal working in the store for minimum wage or whatever?
Blue bills, baby.
They ain't seen the U.S.
they're going to go hard.
Right.
Seven days, nonstop.
They would do it for two, three years straight.
Let me ask you something.
My bodega, when I was living in New York,
or also even when we were back in Brooklyn,
just recently on this BMX trip,
one of the things that I love about it
is a lot of times you have a relationship with your bodega guy
that they will really help you out with a lot of little shit.
Like, oh, my homie has to pick up his key,
this key that I have,
and I don't have anywhere that I can leave it for him to get it.
So I go in and I get it.
and I give the fucking guy at the bodega a couple of bucks
and I'm like, hey, this dude Phil's gonna come in here
and ask for this key, can you just give it to him?
You guys down to help out with stuff like that?
I would even have packages dropped off sometimes.
I swear to God, and I would tip them,
but they didn't mind helping out.
I feel like your shit's too lit that you can't be a part-time FedEx.
It happened in all the stores.
Like we had the, we worked with the, which I'm called it,
the FedEx and all that.
Oh, that's fine.
Really?
Yeah, you have the options to do that.
And that's part of what makes living in your,
New York City feel like an actual community is that you kind of, you know, it's like your neighbors
and you actually have a relationship with them beyond just the transaction and giving them money
and they give you some shit.
It is like, especially the store that is most poppin in the community.
That's like family with everybody.
That's like, that's their second house.
Everybody that comes like, sometimes I start barking out of my way out.
Like, why are you here all day?
Bro, this is my second house.
Yeah.
Like, you're serious, man.
It's crazy because in New York or in LA, we don't have.
have that. We say we all just go to a 7-Eleven. Maybe people who live in certain areas have that.
I was about to say, you know for sure there's some... It's true. But even in like the nice
parts of New York City where like expensive-ass million-dollar apartments and shit,
motherfuckers still got a bodega that they stopped by to get breakfast or to get, you know,
whatever they need for the day and shit. It could be like a full vegan one, but like, you know,
it's the vegan bodega is right there. Yeah. You have everything. You have some regular stores now.
They serve a vegan or all that too.
You saw all that kind of stuff too?
Yeah, I do.
Because over the years...
I lived in Brooklyn and Queens until 2009,
and then when I came back years later,
all of a sudden a lot of the bodegas have organic market
or, you know, like vegan, whatever,
like all this advertising that I'm like,
this motherfucker is saying that he's organic?
Like, I never would have thought
this would be the kind of place that would have something like that up.
But these are the places that are being gentrified,
so they got to appeal to their new rich clientele, right?
No, but I'm not even going to lie.
That was something that I didn't, like, I've never experienced until going into the bodegas in New York.
Like, the fresh vegetables, like, you literally are chopping the bread and the meat and the cheese off a damn, like, loaf of it.
And I'm just like, like, you have the most vibrant, beautifully colored vegetables.
Like, you just pick them shit to yourself in the damn backyard.
Big whatever you want, and we're going to make it happen.
But that's like, that's such not a thing here.
I don't think I have ever said more than how you doing to my corner store guy that I've
grew up with my entire life.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
I'll hear.
I just moved from there from first grade till I'm about to be 30 next year.
I just moved from there like two months ago.
I've never spoke to, I've never said more than two words to this man.
I think it's much more than norm in L.A. to not really talk to the fucking guy that as your cornerstores as,
I feel like in New York, even when we were there for a week, by like the third day, the fucking guy working
the bodega is saying shit to me and Phil
and like joking around with us about little things
it's a much more close
family type vibe yeah me
me personally like me as
a young man
the work that in the store whatever
I've been to people houses like in the project
the projects was right there
so as we got out the whip
I'm like okay I think I was the first
A rap from there and that community
that had been in those projects
they can't go a lot of people can't
be it used to be
Is Adam going to get accepted?
I got a pocket
I got a pocket
Yo
What's important
To like maintain
Good relationships
With the community
Because in particular
You know
It's like in a lot of communities
You might be like the only
Middle Eastern people
It's a small percentage
In comparison to Hispanic
Or black or white or whatever
And it's like you got to try to be cool
With everybody
Like what are the things you've learned
About how to
Kind of stay out of other people's bullshit
keep the temperature low, make sure the shit doesn't get aggressive.
Like, what have you learned?
No, I learned this is like when you see saying going,
just keep you mind your business, just walk.
Somebody come ask you, says, yo, where you can get this from or whatever,
you just mind your business.
I didn't even think about that.
Yeah.
That's probably, people ask you stuff like that?
Yeah, like, yo, what I could get drug?
I don't know.
Do you know people who have gotten caught up like that?
Trust me.
I've seen it all.
Yeah.
No, because I remember my dad.
Dad growing up telling me about some guy he knew who worked at a grocery store who got 10 years for being a lookout.
Like straight up, like on some, like he just worked in this grocery store and he was letting them do some kind of drug transaction in the back by the loading dock.
And he let him do it and knew it was happening.
And he got like 10 years.
But how could they prove that he knew?
It was crazy.
They're probably phone calls or seen him with them or something.
Probably before.
Yeah, probably people telling phone calls.
There's always.
Especially the grown people on like the OG head.
Now it's got to be super easy to make the case.
Back then, they probably write a letter.
I would like you to engage in some criminal activity with me.
Man, no, but that's fucked up that people would even, like,
put you in that predicament or bring that type of,
because you don't seem like that's the type of time.
Come on, you never ask the bodega guy where I can get some coke.
No, I don't want random bodega.
But what if he seems like he's kind of like with the shit?
It's like, I'm looking at him.
This motherfucker got Gucci's shoes on.
Hey, where the Coke at?
I'm sorry.
I feel like you might know.
And I respect you not telling me,
but I'm saying if I was in that lifestyle, I might ask.
No, you got to ask like the niggas in front of the store hanging out.
Not the guy that works in the store.
He got the plug prices, bro.
He's got the distributor.
They can tell you, I...
He can get that boar's head work.
They can tell you, I come grab a talon or adville crush it up.
That's what you tell him.
He's re-rocking out here.
No, yeah, you ask for some coke.
You're like, no, I got some Tylenol, though.
I got some monster energy right here.
I'm just saying he's like, why you don't ask the people that's outside the store.
That's what they do
How we got you
Yeah
They go on the side of the store
Grab a towel
No
Alright
But how much does the cops
Come in and they ask you
Hey what happened
There's a dead body outside
What happened?
Ah man
Trust me
I don't know
I don't know
I don't know
I was not here
I'm busy
Because you gotta have good
Relationship with the cops too
You got
Hey I'd be good with everybody
I'm not the boss
It's not here
Back home
Somewhere you got
Right
Just keep out of it
In general
Because you don't want
want to be seen having a 10-minute conversation with this cop either, right?
You don't want to have no type of connect with those.
Who's the most famous person that ever came in?
Me, AD, and China Mac.
Okay.
I'm just kidding.
Nah, that's it.
Come on.
Yeah, you're my brothers.
Of course.
No, no, I'm just kidding.
Go ahead.
We have, we have, we have, we have, we have, rapers you say, okay.
We have, man, man, man, man, gee.
It's probably been a lot, honestly.
I've seen a lot.
Um
DJ mustard
Tadalas sign
Wow
Oh all the way
From the West Coast
Yeah
The West Coast is fucking with you man
I had
Drake hit me up
But you haven't tapped in yet
Nah yet
You might have to bring the sandwich to him
I'm not gonna lie
Trust me
I was gonna say
I will fly
Okay I need to know
What's in the OVO
Accuway sandwich
I should
I will fly to him
What would you
What would you suggest
Tia have on a sandwich
Huh
If you're gonna make a
If he asked you, what's it?
He's like, make me an OVO sandwich to OQA.
What do you put it together for Drake?
Oh.
Got to be a surprise.
Okay, okay.
You can't bring it out then.
Hey, I respect it.
But it depends on where he's at in his life, too, right?
Because, I mean, Drake is fitness conscious as well.
So if somebody comes in and they're worried about staying in shape, what do you got for him?
Go across the street?
No, he got mad.
He got mad fresh.
We got everything.
He got the freshest veggies in town, bro.
We got everything.
We can make anything happen.
Everything we got.
Weirdest thing.
Oh, bacon, egg and cheese with some gummy worms in there.
Oh, what?
I don't even sound appealing.
That's just, like, food groups that should not mingle.
Yeah.
Because I had a burger with bacon and everything on a donut bun before.
Like, honestly, it was fucking good.
Like, it was sweet.
Yeah, it's kind of weird.
but it was overall pretty fucking good.
I didn't have any kind of grossed out feeling with it,
but gummy worm with bacon?
Like, ooh.
Yeah, like he told me chop it up inside the egg.
What?
What the fuck.
Remember the homie made us a burger
with fucking peanut butter on it that one time, remember?
Yeah, peanut butter is good, though.
Everybody's good on everything.
Actually, I don't know, maybe you cut the worms up a lot
and they're, like, sprinkled throughout everything.
And the eggs?
But it is one of the best fucking foods.
Let's be real.
What, the gummy worms?
Yeah.
That's not a food?
If I could eat any, like, snack,
I don't know, like some really good gummy worms
might be fucking up there, dude.
Okay, what's the, what's the, like,
highest stack sandwich
you've ever made?
Because at some point, I'm like,
how are you even biting this?
For Big E, W, W.E.
They told me to do a triple
of four layers of a chopped cheese.
It was the size of a Big E head.
I was like, yo, you show you?
Like, man, give me my sandwich with me.
Right.
He came out.
at 5.30 in the morning.
Yeah, it's come grab that sandwich.
So when I cut it in half, I was like,
yo, who's going to hold the second half?
It had to be you.
Seriously, like, it was a big sandwich.
You can't.
So he's like, you need half of the sandwich.
He's like, no, give me my whole sandwich.
Oh, you better stop playing.
Seriously.
Wow.
I was like, yo, Chichet, your sandwich is coming right now.
I got to.
Yeah, that sounds like a sandwich I might have to eat half
and put the other in the fridge.
Yeah, where'd all the catchphrases come from?
Were those around before social media?
Did you kind of like develop those once you were on camera?
I was just on camera.
Freestyleed it.
Because I was having like the drink, right?
But we was never saying something about it.
Right.
I was like, yo, let's say something about the drink.
Can't forget.
Yeah.
And that's funny because he's always had this meme of saying no Bev.
Yeah.
Meaning if somebody's eating a sandwich or something or having a meal and they don't have a drink,
he would just clown them and put him on a stove.
That's what I'm saying.
It's a personal connection, right?
It's an international thing, man.
You thought I was just making this up.
This is, we all been on the Bevway.
Oh, no, but I feel you.
Gotta have the Bev with you at all times.
Can't forget the Bev.
Never, never, never, never, never.
Definitely.
Like, I refuse to eat anything because I always have to be able to, like, cleanse the palate.
Hit it with the water on the tongue.
Everything tastes new again.
Exactly.
You know?
That way you could dive into different parts of your plate.
You know what I'm saying?
Bro, if I'm eating like a burger and then I got ice cream after.
Bro, I can't have a ground beef tongue touching on some vanilla.
That's just like, no, I need to cleanse.
And really, I would like a little time between two.
Let's sit here, relax for a half hour.
What was the last time you had a burger and then had ice cream right after?
Sunday night, I had a burger and then cheesecake.
And I gave myself a nice little half hour, drank some water.
I want to spread it out so I could really appreciate the cheesecake.
You know what you could do next time?
Oh, he's going to spice it up for me?
Put the cheesecake on the burger.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
See, we're going to do that cheesecake on the pancake
batter.
So you're going to have a cheesecake pancake.
Right.
You're with your burger at the same time.
Right.
Is that going to be the bun, the pancake?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then you hit it with that syrup or honey.
Wow.
See, the honey is the organic part.
Chopped up some bacon, chopped it up after you finished cooking it.
Some salted onion.
If you like salted onion.
What's your favorite shit?
to eat when you're not eating at the deli.
And do you eat a lot at the deli?
I was going to ask that too.
I'm all day in the deli.
I love the steak.
I love myself, but I make it spicy dough.
Yeah, your seasoning
game is top tier.
Are you ever going to reveal your seasoning secrets?
Because the package you use is
like a very vibrant color.
You feel I'm me?
I pay attention, brother.
OMG.
You're taking notes, huh?
Hey, listen, man.
I'm trying to, I'm trying to
I'm in the store trying to match up the packets like.
No, no, never, never, never, never.
Yeah, nah, for real.
Because you're actually seizing your food.
Yeah, you have to.
Everybody's a lot of people telling me, you know, some chefs headed with the saw and pepper.
I was like, if salt and pepper is good for you, that's you.
Yeah, we got to.
I'm doing my thing.
You do what you got to do.
I ain't tell you when you do salt and pepper when you're cooking out.
So you don't do salt and pepper?
You do other spices?
I do.
I do some salt and pepper, but I do that.
I use that.
You know, by soul, I don't really, barely I use it.
Right.
I do not like this.
A little pinch, a little pinch.
Yeah.
Got it.
So what are the top catchphrases?
Uh.
That people say when they see you in the street.
Never, never, never.
Yo, yeah, it can never, never, never the hockey way.
Sure.
Sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
See, that's why I knew something was up and I was so confused because you and AD are just,
Shaw, sure.
I'm like, what the fuck is that?
I love when Adam has no idea.
what's going on about something and we just have like a little pisses me off anything if he like
knows a song i don't know i'm just like i'm going my office and get on youtube but now just like that
straight up i don't like that but now look you you went and did your research but you have to go
you the next time we go to new york you got to come with us you got to that's what i was thinking i was
thinking of how much my kid would enjoy it too you know what we do right we're having a pop-up on
thursday out in l-l-a really make sure you touch down we're making that chap cheese all for one day
In LA.
Where's that going down at?
It's going down in Burbank.
In Burbank?
Yes.
Wow.
Wow.
So what's the whole idea with that?
You're trying to take things to the next level, like in terms of just spreading your shit
beyond New York, you know, because you could just stay posted up there, grinding,
making content for the rest of your life, right?
But you could also expand and come out to L.A.
and make a mark, do shit like this, et cetera, right?
Look, you got merch now?
We haven't this.
We haven't merch dropping out as well.
Damn.
So what's the idea out here?
Just to spread awareness, get the brand out there more?
Yeah, of course.
China.
Network.
Yeah, and I do.
Like, I have a big fan out of it.
That's why.
Nice.
Every time I'm in the store, Sheffin.
Where are you from?
Oh, I'm from L.A.
Oh, where you from?
Oh, I'm from L.A.
Really?
Where are you from?
I'm Caling.
Big New York.
you take you for granted a little too much?
Uh-huh.
You think New York takes you for granted a little too much
and L.A. appreciates it?
You know.
Interesting.
New York got to respect you while you're here.
You might take your talents out here.
We try to get, we try and have it all over the world, man.
Could you imagine, though?
Could you imagine, like, franchising
or, like, opening a bunch of different locations
or something like that at some point?
I already have everything.
He's already, he's 10 steps ahead of you on this.
I'm already, you know.
I could see it.
I'm going forward.
You deserve it, though, brother.
for real, because you bring so much
positive energy, do your videos,
comforting food, like,
you really are helping make the world
a better place with the content that you put out.
I truly believe that, for real, for real.
Thank you. I really appreciate you, my mom.
Come on, man.
Holy love.
We got to get Adam of motherfucking chopped cheese
to Acky Way.
Okay, Adam, what's going to be on your Ackyway sandwich?
What do you?
Whatever he says, mozzarella sticks,
whatever the fuck you'd be putting on this shit.
I'm down.
I said, that's what I'm talking about.
You even be seasoned in the damn
mozzarella sticks.
Like them shit to be having some damn parsley flakes on the outside.
I'm like, man, my boy going crazy over here.
This especially when always we say Biss Miller that's praying over the food.
That's it.
That whole blessing goes in.
This guy doesn't pray, but we're going to force him to pray.
I'll pretend.
I'll pretend.
I'll bow my head.
No, when I say, okay, I think the sandwich I got was
Jamaican patty.
Jamaican patty.
With chopped cheese or what do you have?
No, you had chicken or what do you have?
I think a, oh my God, that is?
is what it was.
Jamaican patty with chopped cheese,
mozzarella sticks,
bacon,
spinach,
and grilled onions.
Yes, sir,
no tomatoes,
though.
No tomato.
Yo!
This is,
that's,
the fact he remembered that,
it's crazy.
How did you connect with Chinamac?
And, like,
you know,
he's doing his food thing,
too.
Yeah,
this is,
that's the brother
that mom that didn't have
right here.
Oh, God,
for real,
man.
Seriously,
like,
he's the first one
that pulled up on me
and
I start asking some stuff
to help me. He was never regret me. He was always, yo, call me. This is my
he's like, this is my number, anything you need. Whatever, I'm here for you, bro.
Like, man, God bless you. Right. That shit's beautiful, man.
Yep. So he came the first time, came the second time, but the third time. I think I had to kick him out.
Wow.
Yeah, I had to kick him out with household. The hockey way.
And AD, I had to kick all of them out, all three of them.
Damn, I'm glad I was in there. We was a little, we was a little rowdy in the store.
I still got my pass.
We had the people from Canada.
from Toronto, right?
My Somali, my Somali boys, man.
Shout out to my Somali people, right?
And right, we're going to be out there in Toronto soon, man.
Yeah, we...
I really have a huge followers over there as well.
So, my boys pulled up on me and started, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We had, he had the whole stir turned up.
Everybody, like, the cashier was looking at him.
Everybody's just yelling.
He's doing the food, or is the party's an hockey club over there?
Club hockey?
Are you, is it all love or do you get hate from people that are kind of in your world that maybe you're jealous?
It is a lot of hate and I'll open attention to them.
You know, I always put the smile to them.
And I always say, yes, sir, may I help you today?
Because what is there to hate, man?
Like, come on.
Hey, I don't know.
Some people hate me because, like, people are coming from all over.
Okay, like, now I keep telling my people from my, like, if you hate me,
keep it to yourself.
Yeah.
You got nothing nice to say
don't say it at all.
Right.
Keep it to yourself, brother.
I ain't going to hate you because you hate me.
I'm going to love you.
More.
I'm going to love you more.
You're thinking about starting to rap?
Raving?
Yeah.
I don't know.
You never know.
Hey, man.
You never know.
You dress better than a lot of these rappers.
My name is hockey.
I work behind the deli.
All I make is butter and jelly.
I know how I roll that filly.
Stop playing with me, man.
You know, he was going to hit him with a couple bars.
Yeah.
Right there.
What the fuck?
That was fire.
Hard.
The Aki tape coming soon?
Yeah.
You meet a lot of girls in the deli?
Huh?
You meet a lot of girls in the deli?
Are they showing up in your DMs these days?
A whole lot, man.
Yeah?
That's why I went back home in 2008 and got married.
Exactly.
It was too much.
Oh, really?
It was too much since social media.
So you got married like 12 years in advance?
Because you knew that once you popped off, it would be too much pressure.
Trust me, the time when I was decided to go back home, a girl, I swear to God.
she was going to kill herself and so she was like I turned to Muslim and all that.
Right.
So her mother know, like, I was like, if you care of I'm traveling, watch your daughter.
She's talking, like, she disappeared for like two months.
What?
Because she was so heartbroken that you were going?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So when I came back, she got a baby already.
I was like, hey, congratulations.
It's all love.
What the fuck?
You put the pipe on her, the Akiway.
Cockyway.
here we go
oh my god man
damn that's legendary
heartbreaker ock over here man
nah man i always tell him like
i'm not here to love yeah
like you like i love the grill
i love the grill i love the grill
i love the deli baby that's that's what you got to tell them
that's half of my heart right there there you go
i love the grill more than you know
that is a man i'm married to the grill
Yeah. So we just did a contract, me and the grip for the rest of the life.
You should get a pre-up.
That's a bad bitch.
You should get like a spatula chain or some shit like that.
Like, that'd be so tight.
Oh, my God.
You never know what's coming up.
Hey, listen.
Beef patty chain.
Yo.
That you can open?
It's filled with gold.
Mochrella gold.
You know what my chain going to be?
My whole actually chopped cheese on a Jamaican patty.
While is open and the mozzarella sticks is melting.
Bro.
You think I'm captain?
Come on.
The game has changed.
Hey, listen, with the enamel game they got going on now,
you could literally do anything at this point.
You're going to see how that chain going to look.
And I hope nobody going to go and take it.
No, that's cool.
You got that.
You got that.
You got that.
You know how some people are.
We know where it came from first if they do.
You can make a fake version, too, and then rock that.
Pumper Jules.
Oh, that's your new swag?
Well, that was Brian Pumper's excuse for rocking fake jewelry.
Because he said, like, well, I can't possibly be walking around
wearing half a million dollars with jewelry.
Why are you like...
As if he actually has half a million dollars with jewelry
living in your car.
This motherfucker.
Trying to pick up girls on the train.
We invented chop cheese.
They said people said it was from Harlem
then people said it was in the Bronx.
That what Carrey B said.
Cardi B said it's from the Bronx.
They started in the bronze.
Yo, Carrey B, come check out the Acky Way.
The Bronx thinks they started rap music.
Everything.
We got to get Cardi B to pull up to the bodega.
That's what we're going to do, hopefully.
Yeah, she really loves the city.
We need everybody to know.
So you want to try a real chopped cheese, pull up on me, Cody B.
Come on.
Yeah, you're going to get it to the hockey way.
Promise you, you're never going to say the bronze got the chopped cheese no more.
Damn.
I'm not going to lie, man.
Anything except for when me and China Mac was trying to take AD and his girl to get fucking chop cheeses.
And we walked for mad,
A lot, where, was we in, we was in lower, oh, yeah.
Oh, it was like by Dover Street marketing shit.
You're just walking around some random area going into random bodegas.
You got to chop cheese?
And they're like, no.
They're like, no, they hadn't, though, beef patties, none of that.
They wasn't fucking with us.
You got to go to the premium bodegas.
There's a lot of bullshit-ass bodegas that realistically are probably, like, not even
turning a profit.
They're just selling fentany all out the basement or something.
You know, like, for some reason, I wanted to take it back, and I got a
like a fried baloney sandwich at the bodega.
I have, though, they slice it a few, like kind of a thick slice is not thin.
Yeah, no, it was good, actually.
I have some onions and peppers.
See, I didn't take it that deep.
I should have put the mayo, like, should have did the whole thing.
See?
Got you.
You got to come to my boy.
Don't worry.
I like my baloney, like, burnt, though.
That's what I'm.
Man, listen, I told you.
The Aki way.
I like my food in general, burnt.
Yeah, my bacon, too.
I want my bacon, too.
I like my bacon.
I like my food.
I like my food.
Well done.
Like, well done.
Give me some burnt pizza.
I want burnt in?
Okay, no.
I don't want burnt pizza soft
I want the dough to be doughy still
I would never order burnt food but in reality
when the food comes burn I'm like
I had a burnt waffle the other day
and I wasn't fucking with it
Oh that sounds foul
That's good soft
Like it was like too dark
It was too crunchy
Like it was just gonna do it was a buff
Yeah it was like a buff ass waffle
I think oh 20 push up
And it was a Belgian waffle too
So it was like extra crispy
Extra chunky
Oh no
This came out the gym that shit
That's wrong.
Damn.
All right.
Well, anything else we should know about?
What do you got playing for the people out there?
Well, oh, we got the merch.
The merch is the next wave.
Go tap in, man.
I'm assuming it says Akiwai.
Akiway, Arabic, and English.
Yeah, that's why I.
Whoever designed this,
wait a minute.
10 out of 10.
It's just Arabic characters that look like the letters in Akiway.
Exactly.
So what does it actually say?
Akiway.
Akiway, brother.
brother way
yeah
wait
I think the main question
that I never knew
like the Ack is just
the name of the
Aq is just like the Muslim
slang for like your homie right
Yeah
Aki is brother
I've been hearing people say it for forever
And I never really thought about it
Yeah I never like
You know
Got the official answer until right now
They always call a Kino in the corner style
Yo Ake yo Ake your Ake
Yeah
That's why I got to say
That's why I did mine
The Aki way
Yeah
You call people boss
That's one of my favorite thing
About going and getting some chicken
Schwammers
I know that motherfucker
I'm gonna call me boss
Boss
Yeah he's like all right
Hot sauce white sauce boss
No hey sir
You like hot sauce over rice
Sir?
Sir's good too
You got lamb over rice
We got lamb over rice
I need that
I need that next time
Oh you got that there
Oh yes
You got the seafood
The shrimp and salmon
What's the
What's the best
Halal truck
I know.
In New York City.
I think they said it was known.
They have Ferris.
That's what they're going.
As in Queens.
Oh.
The king of falafel.
I think so.
That's my boy, Freddie.
You know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can we go to the supermarket?
Yeah, yeah.
I've been going there since like 2003 when he just had a truck and now he got a store.
Cross street from me.
Yes.
And he holds it down.
And when I go in there, he don't remember my name, but he's like, brother.
He remembers the face.
My brother.
Like literally 20 years.
You can't finish that plate though.
Oh yeah, I used to finish it all the fucking time.
That's the first falafel I ever had.
I'm like, what the fuck?
I got turned to it.
This is my first week in New York City.
And I had falafel for the first time from that truck that ends up just happening to be like one of the best trucks in New York City.
I couldn't believe it.
You see how his line be, right?
Oh, yeah.
I heard about it.
One day I just had the idea.
I'm going to Google that fool.
And I just find that YouTube videos to like,
crazy lines and shit. Yeah, I got lucky the last time I went. There was nobody there.
And now all we got is fucking bullshit halal guys here.
Oh, well, you know. Yeah.
I'm so burnt out on that.
Yo, the halal food, like, there's very few people who are trying to really do it in L.A.
Whereas in New York, there's a million people trying to do it.
And they're doing it the best way.
It's kind of weird that in L.A. It's like a completely different thing.
I don't know. And Hala guys is like one of the few people that have tried to really, like, take the New York sauce and just come to L.A.
It's nothing like that real, like, you know?
How old guys is mad good in New York
And especially is the person
That's cooking and
No, exactly
Trust me
If you're not doing it from your heart
This food will be a track of the
But do you think that you could move out here
And start up a deli
And do your thing
Or is there something about New York
Like the ingredients or something
Because they always talk about how the bagels
Are different in New York and shit
But I also heard they've done mad tests
And that they have a hard time
Actually identifying reasons
Why the bagels would be different
in New York versus LA.
Maybe it's the temperature.
They talk about the weather,
but they've tested like a million things,
and I feel like they don't really have a good answer.
I told you,
there's always the person's been behind all that scene.
Like, if you don't have the vibes of,
come from the heart.
Yeah, if you're not cooking it.
If you're on a job that you don't like,
it's not going to come complete.
It's not going to come right.
Right.
But if you're putting the right person,
no matter what,
that's coming from the heart.
Yo, because there's this breakfast burrito
that I order off postmate sometimes when there's one spot in LA, right?
And I only have ever got it on Sundays, right?
The other day I ordered it on like a Wednesday.
Shit sucked.
And I'm just like...
You think it was a different chef there?
It was probably a different chef on a different day
who didn't wrap it the same way or put it together the right way.
It was all the same ingredients.
What was different about it?
I don't know.
It just wasn't rolled right.
It didn't hit the same.
I'm used to it feeling like mad solid.
And now it's like kind of a squishy burrito.
And I'm just like, damn, this is not what I wanted right now.
Some pimp squeak with skinny-ass arms couldn't tuck that bitch in.
That's what I'm saying.
I need an abuelo in there just wrapping that shit.
No, listen.
Like, I obviously have seen so many of this man's videos, but, like, I actually
taste in the food, and it was like, this shit tastes like from the heart home, cooked.
Like, this is like my uncle made this, you know?
My cousin made it.
I'm about to go catch a PJ just to go get one.
Well, I guess I got to wait until you go back, but.
Well, no, this weekend.
We're just got a regular flight.
We're going to...
Oh, there's a problem on Thursday.
I do have a bunch of interviews Thursday, but I'm going to try to make it work.
You get me in there late?
It's in the area.
Oh, it's in the...
It's fine a way.
That's a good point.
Okay.
We're going, bro.
I'm making you go.
Let's do it.
What time?
You want to be from one to four?
Oh.
Coming soon to a no jumper vlog.
We might need to go early before anybody gets there.
I like that idea as well.
And then boom.
Let's go.
The hockey way.
The only way.
Shut up.
We ain't forgetting your Bev, though.
No.
Never, never, never.
All Bev's work, love.
So what you got to say?
Never, never, never.
That way.
Don't.
Can you give me just a quick, like,
rundown of a basic sandwich real quick
in the Ackyway tone?
Everybody close your eyes and just pictures.
I just wanted an experience,
like I'm watching the video right now.
Oh, you want to me?
So I'm going to say my first row.
Yes, sir, man.
I hope you today.
Hey, man, I've got to do.
I got a turkey bacon, egg, and cheese, but can I make that the Aki way?
Sure, sure.
First you put the bacon on the grill.
Then we crack three eggs.
After we crack the three eggs, we're going to pour that cheese in there.
Then we're going to scramble it.
Head it with the saw and pepper.
After we do that, now we're going to put some butter on the grill.
Now we're going to pour the eggs on the grill.
Then we're going to throw that on the B-Better roll to the to toaster.
After we do that, we're going to head it with some hash brown fries.
Oh, my God, got to.
There needs some starch in there.
Yes, yes, sir.
That's the weirdest part is the on the grill.
Like, that's the part that makes it the most unique.
On the grill.
On the grill.
It's like a very unexpected, like, raising up the temperature in the sentence.
It's just showing the enthusiasm for the sandwich.
Once everything's ready, now we put everything together.
Once everything together, now we stack it up.
once after we stack it up now we put on top of the paper
now we wrap it up yeah
and a result is
oh m g can't we get your bath
never never never never never never
I love this
appreciate you man thank you so much
now we serve it to the custom
and don't forget the bev
never the bev we beved up baby
yeah we make sure we're surrounded of bobbed
I made sure that I came here for this
I was like, this is probably the earliest I've ever been at the office.
This is definitely way better as a result of you being here.
So thank you.
Thank you.
And, uh, yo, I just, I love seeing people make it in unique ways, like, especially
people using the internet and social media to like really do something that realistically
10 years ago, you probably never would have had this fucking opportunity.
But now because you got this outlet to the world, this many people were able to become big
fans of your personality and what you were bringing to the table and really kind of
expose your culture
and make it so that people understand
what a fucking guy works in the
bodega goes through in a day to day, which is good
because sometimes you'd be in the bodega and you'll hear
somebody in line talking to this guy like a dick
and it's like, right, he's just doing his fucking job
like have some empathy for this fool
you know, so I appreciate what you're bringing to the
game big time. I appreciate you man
niggas not talking to General Hock no type of way
though. No, no, no, no, he got a stretch. We're not going for that
yeah, we're not going for that.
You can go to Kennedy Farad where that shit.
He doesn't even, you know, he doesn't even
bring those type of vibes, man. Positive vibes
only, man. This guy, this guy's here
to put a smile on your face and to feel
your stomach up, man. Much love, and I
appreciate you for having me all this. Hockey
Way. Appreciate you, man. Thank you. No Jumper.
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