No Jumper - The Ohgeesy Interview: Getting Sober, Owning the Shoreline Mafia Name, Drakeo & More

Episode Date: March 28, 2022

Ohgeesy talks about investing his money wisely, family dynamic with his young child, motivated to make more money, not having any relationship with Shoreline, owning the name though and more! https://www.instagram.com/ohgeesy/ ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. We back for, I believe, the third time. Yes, sir. With the one and only. O.Jeezy. Come on. In this bitch. I'm in the building. What camera I look at? You can just look at me or look at that one if you really want to make a point. Bette, bet, bet, bet. How are you doing? I'm good. I feel good. Yeah. What's going on in the life of O. GZ at this point, man?

Man, just kicking in with my son a lot. Yeah. A lot of business. Three years old. Yeah, three. Just turned three. It was out in Hawaii. I see you smelling the money out with the three. Yeah. Yeah. What's it called? I originally wanted to go to Hawaii, just a kid with him for his birthday. And my girl was like, we was going to spend like 20, 30,000 out on the trip.

Took a bunch of family and shit. And she was like, just do a show. I was like, fuck y'all, do the show. Got the money right back. Right. Yeah, a little sold-out show in Hawaii. Oh, dude, I did. I did that move where we spent like $20,000 or some shit to bring the family out to Hawaii.

I didn't get books for nothing. I was just like, all right, we got to take a week off. But, yeah, that's fucking time to be able to pay for it. That might be the longest have ever. stayed somewhere and it wasn't like all work right yeah how'd that feel though you're away from all your usual shit all your usual hummys yeah i loved it i loved it i felt like super relaxed out there i was walking around every day i was on the beach every day right it was a whole different change of pace just from being out in l.a like you can't just walk around and yeah it's kick it somewhere yeah it's like

such a relaxing environment the air is so clean and shit but i know you mean because like when i was interviewing a dub recently and i was talking about going on vacation for the weekend and he was honestly just like how do you do that like what is that like because you know a lot of us that felt like my first vacation right i was like that for a long-in-distance time where i can't like it's so hard for me to take my brain and take it off hustle mode and switch into chill the fuck out mode yeah but i think it's really really good for your brain i feel like i was like when i first got there that's why i stayed for two weeks because the first three four days i was still in hustle mode i was doing uh i did my meeting greed did my show i did a pop-up so i was just running it up then i ran out of shit to sell and i was

like, all right, now I'm kicking it. Ran a little bag of them, like, I'm cool now. Yeah, definitely. Because, I mean, you made all this money over these years, built the name for yourself, but then meanwhile, it's like, what is it really worth if you don't ever get a chance to really chill with your kids and shit? Exactly. Yeah.

I've been forced myself to just take the weekends off to just hang out with the kid and shit. Not yet for sure. Usually, like, one day out of the weekend because I usually get distracted. I've been trying to hang out with my kids, especially right now. I'm about to go on tour. I'm about to be on the road for like 40-some days. Wow. So I was in two days.

So I was like, let me try to spend as much time. as I can with him right now right does your kid get it they're about to be gone from now no still no he's he's three so I feel like he still don't understand okay so my kid's like one and a half and I'm kind of trying to figure out when she's gonna start getting shit yeah no I feel like he don't really understand like that right yeah but how how is becoming a dad change your life you know you're three years in it feels like we've kind of seen a lot of growth and development since then it just made me want to get some more money right maybe just want to be more business oriented yeah definitely

I just feel like it made me a better person all around. Right. Like, I'm not into a lot of shit I used to be. Like, I just, I just, and right now, especially, like, right now, it's like a pivotal moment in my life. I just want to be more on top of my business than ever before. Right. I was watching that fucking complex documentary thing that you did.

And, like, I never really, like, thought about what area of L.A. you were actually from. But I used to live over on, like, on Western and, like, Korea Town area. So it was right over there. We would be over in that area a lot and shit. And I don't know. It's just kind of crazy to think about growing up right there. Because it's like, you know, it's not like Compton or Watts or some shit where you're like really far away from Hollywood.

You're like right there. And you just got to walk down the street and you're in Hollywood Boulevard. Yeah, exactly. I feel like that's why maybe like my mind's so different. I didn't want to go into gangbanging. I was in that skateboarding and graffiti. And you feel me? I'm like a kid of the culture.

Right. Yeah, because I mean, like, that's one thing, though, is like, you know, I'm just talking to some kids from Chicago. They don't necessarily have stardom and Hollywood and all this bullshit, like, right around the corner. You know, like, a couple miles away is, like, the biggest movie producers in the fucking world and all these TV networks and shit. Did you, was there like a moment when you kind of realized, like, oh, I'm not from, like a regular place. I'm from, like, the place, American ones. Not really, because it's still dirty and just nasty. Over there for sure, yeah.

Yeah, I see all the, like, dirty shit. Yeah. It was regularly. Yeah, definitely. When did you actually decide that you wanted to be a rapper with her? Because when I was going back and watching the old-ass shoreline, it's kind of crazy how y'all sounded like suicide boys early on. I don't know.

I think I started trying to rap, like, at 19, 1920. I just turned 28. 28? Yeah. Damn. So people act like you guys are fucking brand new, but really? Yeah, no. I've been rapping.

So it's basically like 10 years since I've been rapping. Right. Yeah. Damn. But was it just? Just graffiti and shit before that in terms of what you were doing with yourself? Yeah, pretty much. Graffiti and then shit got into selling drugs and that's when I started making money.

I feel like that's on my rap chains too when I started making money. Right. Because now I just remember that I had like a friend who basically told me like, no, oh geez, he's a real ass rapper because he used to serve me Coke before I fucking back in the day before he was a rapper. That must be crazy as fuck for a person to see. To see their Coke dealer become a fucking rapper. talking about selling go.

It's funny, I've ran into people at festivals and shit that I used to fuck with. And it's like, damn, this is crazy. Right. You remember serving a little house farm? Yeah. For sure. I was just like, man, why am I hiding his name? Let's air this shit out, man.

We're so serving them. Holy fuck. Where were you, like, back in the day, though, like, what kind of, were you just going to parties and shit and just, like, being on some cool shit? I really didn't even party like that. I would just be, if I was in the, in the little trash spot, like with the little hummies and shit. I had my own spot.

It was like the little trespass for everybody stayed there. All the little hummies, Joshie, everybody. Right. Joshie off. We stayed like 15 deep in my little apartment. If I wasn't there, I'd just be out serving all there. I just be driving around. Right.

That's all I did. But did you have to take any kind of special precautions to not get caught up doing that shit? Or could you just, because I always think about it. Not really. You get pulled over. That's why I ain't get my face tag until I signed my deal. I was like, I'm not going to give them a reason to search me. for me? Right. Because I mean, you can be driving around with a couple of eight balls in your pocket.

Never mind, like, stashed somewhere in the car. And it's like... I used to go pick up brakes on my whip. Really? It was like that. So you were actually really doing it. Yeah. Damn. I just bust them down. But while you were doing all that, you were just rapping as well? I feel like we're getting into like a deeper side of you that I never actually talked to you about. Yeah, I was rapping. That's around the time I made musty. I was feeling myself.

Because, like, was that kind of the first time when you were like all of a sudden able to just go out and afford all the shit that you wanted? wearing like I just felt good yeah after I didn't even make no money off of my see we uploaded it for free I didn't even know about uploading to like streaming services and anything we just put it out and they just started going crazy so at that point I was just making all the street money right when I signed my deal I had like a hundred been saved from what I didn't spend right so when I got my deal money I didn't even touch that I was just running through all my street money right so when I interviewed you the first time would you say you were out the streets at that point yeah once I was the day I I signed my deal.

But you had already signed to Atlantic at that point? The first interview all the way back in the day. I wasn't signed to them yet. But for the moment, the day I signed my deal, on the win, like 2016 or something, I gave my phone away. I gave everything I had away. And then the cops raided my crib the next day. Are you serious?

And you didn't have anything? Nothing. I gave everything away. So it was like meant to be. Wow. That is crazy. Because I always see people like just selling drugs like hand-to-hand in L.A. and I always wonder like how they get caught

or like how much how difficult it is to not get caught because it kind of sometimes feels like unless you get caught up on some dumb shit that it should be pretty easy to avoid. I feel like people just be burnt out. Yeah. We just be doing too much. Too much internet shit, all that.

Internet shit for sure. I mean, do you ever feel like you went too far with that? You never got your Instagram deleted so at least you got that going for you. I got my Instagram deleted like four times. Did you really? But in the past like two, three months. Oh, really? What were you posting?

Uh, weed. Oh, really? Yeah. Damn. But it's not like I was trying to set weed online. They was putting my weed in a dispensary. So I'm trying to promote the, I'm about to do a meat and greet at a dispensary at cookies and all this. And they just keep deleting my shit.

That's so crazy. But they'd be deleting cookie shit too. They be deleting their Instagram all the time. Every weed company, as far as I could tell. I don't get it. It's like, it's a shot. Yeah. You know what I was.

Whereas even like two, three years ago, you could post weed and nobody gave a fuck on Instagram. Yeah. You could post whatever on Instagram a few years ago. It used to be. Not Twitter. Twitter be freaky as shit. They'd be pornos on Twitter. Yeah, but yo, they do a lot to make it so you can't see that shit too.

That shit pop up on my shit all day. I hadn't posted anything explicit for Madlong, and then there was this girl in here with these giant fake tits. And I took a picture of her sitting there with them on the table. And I fucking put it on Twitter, and it's just immediately like, this image is flagged, those offensive content. Maybe it's because you verify you got followers. Yeah. All the other profiles just be, like, random people. It's like they make it so they're.

people unless you have the certain setting turned on for your account then you can't see that which is pretty smart but at the same time kind of ruins it because i always felt like that was the thing i liked about twitter is that you can just be reckless as fuck on there yeah definitely so okay you were talking about this before you kind of cleaned up your act a little bit in terms of the drugs and everything like was it the kid that started that or was it even before that i mean nah it was kind of before that like just like i said like i used to be out all day doing what i do so I never really got like as high as people assumed I did. Like, I was out all day, just driving around all day.

So I had to be clear-minded, level-headed. Right. But I mean, I remember seeing you at certain times throughout your career where you were definitely all being. But that's what I'm saying. That's when I was already. Oh, yeah. That's when I was rapping and shit. Did it start to get bad for a period of time once you were like blowing up?

Not for me. No? No. You never got out of control with it at all? Yeah, no. No? I always knew, like, you know what it is? I think it's because, uh,

like prescription and shit they make my face get so puffy so I'm like I can't be doing drugs like that I'm like I look ugly I keep doing some drugs I feel that because when I think about some of the times in my life that I did Molly or whatever like I was probably just around people in the industry and shit talking to them looking crazy as fuck you know if they know anything they definitely knew what I was on yeah you get older and you're just like fuck maybe I don't want to be like meeting A&Rs and shit and having my fucking face falling off Not for sure, for sure. Yeah, no, definitely.

I feel like I was always cool, especially when the rap shit started, just because I know how easy it can get out of hand. So I always watch myself. But I feel like were you guys all feeding off each other at that time, though, like where everybody was kind of just getting fucked up. And when you got one person getting more fucked up than everybody, than everybody else is going to keep going. I ain't ever really been like that.

Like, sometimes I do go to clubs and do walkthroughs, and everybody's drinking in my section. It's fucking a hundred free bottles. I don't even be drinking sometimes. I do them sober. I'll just go home. Yeah, because you said that's how you kind of started drinking a bit, though, is that you'll be doing shit at clubs.

You're getting paid. You're in that environment. Everybody else is drinking. I just started really doing clubs last year since my manager, Rory, he's been hooked me up, giving me all types of walkthroughs. I never did him really before because I know that they could affect ticket sales. But last year, I was like, I don't even have an album out, dropped the mixtape. I'm like, let's go crazy at the clubs.

I started doing it for my first time. It was a change of pace, a whole different environment, different scenery. Yeah. I loved it. That shit was cool. Because when we think about shoreline and shit, it was always like a relatively young audience because you guys were young and you just had like, you know, hella hypebees type kids, young kids.

Like that was just, they saw you guys and it really kind of like represented a type of kid in L.A., I think. So they really gravitated towards it. But, yeah, I mean, that's interesting to know that you would be able to bring in an older crowd as well because obviously those people get older just like you. Yeah, I feel like all those people. it was like 17, 16, 18, they had 21 now. It's been like 34 years.

Right. That's true. I've seen a skit that Duno made the other day where he was like, I think he's making fun of people from Bakersfield or some shit. He was talking about how people outside of L.A. just don't get it. And he's like, y'all from Fresno, y'all think Shoreline's still together. I just thought that was the funniest way. I'd be seeing people tweet shit like that sometimes.

Right. They broke up. I'm like, yeah, they got tripping. Really? Yeah, that's funny as fuck I mean, but from your perspective But I feel like that's not like a serious fan That's like something that's like something to listen to musty or something

Yeah, I mean you see that all the time But you see like people would be like Oh, he died Like a year after a person died And I'll be like, bro, you can't be acting like You're a fan of this person If you didn't even know that they died when they died Come on

But yeah, okay What about the fucking ecto cooler that you're drinking there? Caprican? Capricon Capri son What about it? That's the lesson That's your new style

You're over the fucking The lean You moved on to the Crescent Oh you took it from us Yeah Oh I forgot Because they did a Costco run today I didn't need a little chase

I was just a dog Really On just a regular day Don Julio might be getting drunk Regular day Because we're doing an interview I feel like I haven't done an interview And I don't know how long

Right Yeah I feel like I haven't done Face to face I've been doing I did a bunch of Zoom fucking interviews When GZ World came out But I haven't done an actual interview And I don't know how long

Right You're about to go on tour. Is that why you're doing that interview? Yeah, I go on tour in two days. And I just dropped the Jesus World Deluxe like two weeks ago. Uh-huh. Yeah. Damn. Who's on the Deluxe though? Like, who got added to it? It's me, Pressa,

his brother, Bundog. Right. Kaelin Eladio from Puerto Rico. Is that it? Scar, big scar. Ooh, I like him. Yeah, that shit hard. It's a good deluxe. That shit like it's on the EP itself. You got to be careful fucking impress a little, bro, because he's, he's

Dangerous man. When he was in here doing the interview, he would not, he had another homie with him. He was like a YouTuber. And he's like, nah, don't take any pictures of us together because I don't want him wrapped up in my street shit. In Canada, I guess. Hey, press on my boy, his brother, the reason why I fuck with his brother so tough is because when I first started going to Canada like three, four years ago, his brother

used to pull up on me and just laced me up. Anything I needed. He used to show love, show out. Oh, really? What kind of stuff? Anything I needed. Weed? Whatever I needed.

Mm-hmm. the extras yeah not just who's that tagging OTX all over LA oh no that's not you that's like a tagger who just has the same name is your brand oh it's like fans yeah and that's tight I seen a lot of them fire extinguisher pieces going up and shit yeah fans they let us done one of those back in the day nah oh yeah I did for the for the heavy video really oh yeah I did it right behind me what's it feel like just blasting that much fucking paint out Pause. That was a good one.

I never called nut paint, but I feel you. It just sounded crazy. No, you're right. You're like, what it feels like? But what does that shit feel like? It must be fucking crazy. It's hard to use because you have to spray with your right hand, and I'm right-handed. Right.

So guiding the shit with my left hand, it's like, it feels stupid. Is it just raining back onto you? Not really. It's got to be a lot of backwash, right? It just depends on the wood. I mean, the surface that you're splashing it onto, right? The wind. Oh, the wind, too.

Holy fuck, you catch a bad current? Yeah. Damn. That's real. Yo, but, okay, this is one thing I want to say, though. Do you feel like you still, like, are carrying the fucking, the banner of Shoreline Mafia, even though you moved on? Is that still important to you that you're still banging that because that was a part of your life?

That was so important? It's in my bio. Oh, it is. So my little Instagram bio. Even though it ceased to exist. No, that's my shit. I mean, I came up with the name. Oh, right.

That's my baby. It's forever going to be my baby. It's like my whole vision and everything. And I feel like my career just keeps steadily climbing, you feel I mean? Like, it ain't make no difference. Do you, you know, like, can you use it still? Like, you still, like, sell merch for Shwryan Mafia and stuff? Yeah, I own the trademark, too.

I bought it way before I became a rapper. Uh-huh. You bought the Shorn on Miami via a trademark. a trademark way before yeah that's interesting because I actually heard at one point that the trademark might have been part of what the dispute was between the members that at a certain point you owning the trademark became an issue uh nah that's not what it was but I own the trademark since way before okay yeah interesting damn sometimes like like I didn't even know what it meant to own the trademark who told you somebody in your family like put you on my son's grandfather

Really? My girl's dad, he was like, go trademark that shit. Yeah, rich people trademark fucking everything. Yeah, I didn't know what it meant. So I went and took my little street money. I spent like three bins, trademarking, shoreline, and O'GZ. Right. I didn't know what it meant, but I'm like, hopefully it's not a waste of money right here.

That's dope. That's fucking very forward thinking. Yeah. For sure. Okay, but yeah, you were saying that you be drinking a little bit, but have you, like, completely left the lien in the past? Is that just, like, over with? I think the last time I drank some lien was, like, last far or something.

I'd do it, like, on a special occasion or something. I'm like, I drink some lean today, like, every few months. Right. But, yeah, I don't really be in the lean and trying to find it. And then no weird shit like that. Yeah, because I did it on my birthday, and we were supposed to go to the strip club, and then I got so tired that I couldn't go to the strip club. You just, oh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But at that point, it kind of became like, fuck. Like, I did it because it was a special occasion, but that turned out to be a horrible strategy because if anything, I needed extra energy. I did some on my birthday, too. And I think that's the last time I said something. And I was just like, that's not even fun. I'm like, I don't even want to do nothing now.

I just want to go to sleep. Especially when you get older, too, because for me, if I'm going to drink some lean, like, well, the kids waking me up at six either way. Yeah. So what the fuck is the point when you don't even get to, like, have, like, a chill morning the next day. okay now i remember the last time i said some lean i said some lean the next day i had to go to like a jumper park with my son oh nine a m i was jumping around in the jumpers i was like yo this is the

craziest like i felt i was sweating out lean i'm like this felt disgusting right now oh yeah like the fact that it makes you feel like a bad dad yeah i was like i can't do this right now fuck yeah man i've been there that was the last time it definitely is just not a fucking good feeling Um, okay, there's a girl who was on the Patreon on here. And she's, uh, we, we, like, interview girls and they get naked and shit like that. Patreon.com slash no jumper if you guys want to support us. But we do one of those interviews per week. We're interviewing this girl, hot-ass, young, like 22-year-old chick.

She says her biggest crush is O.GZ. Me and my, my co-host, we start telling her like, you can't say that. This girl's going to smoke you, bro. It's over. Don't say that. Are we overreacting or are people allowed to be fans of you like that? No, they can be fans of me. They just, you know, my girl's my girl.

Yeah, but she was really trying to fuck. She was like, you want to fuck, oh, geez. No, no, my girl, that's not overreacting. Right. You feel me? But she might want to do it. That don't mean that you're going to have to give in. I mean, obviously, I feel like a lot of girl fans obviously want to fuck me.

Right. But that's not what it is. I feel like maybe it's because she got a platform or something. She's like popping or something. Right. She's on here. Yeah. It's kind of different.

We were just scared for her because I heard that your girl smacks some shicks around before. Yeah, my girl would be tripping. Really? Yeah, she'll be tripping, tripping. Damn. You've been with her the whole time

that you've been a rapper? I've been with her since before. We used to take the bus together. Damn. Yeah. That's so cute. Damn, so you never got a chance to... We used to go on dates on.

I was about to get me in trouble. We used to go on dates on the bus. Right. Yeah. Damn, so you never got a chance to get some fan pussy? Uh-uh. Respect. You used to go on dates on the bus.

So like where? Like give me an East Hollywood fucking date when you don't got a lot of bread. The Americana, the groves, some shit like that.

Go watch a movie. Take your ass at Glendale. Yeah. You hit the fucking cheesecake factory or something? Yeah, cheesecake factory. She loved Cheesecake Factory. Back then, back then.

Don't they all? Back then. Now that's when you know that you're getting bougie is when Cheesecake Factory ain't good enough anymore. I don't like Cheesecake Factory. No, yeah.

I mean, no, yeah, it's trash. I'm gonna be real, though. Like, when I think about what I thought of Cheesecake Factory, like six, seven years ago, I thought it was kind of fire. Yeah. Like, that was like a nice dinner. And now when I think about it, I'm like, hell the fuck. When I first started, like, getting into the whole industry and anything, I went to Olive Garden one time. I was like, y'all is the worst fucking shit I've ever tasted in my life. Before Ruth Chris?

I ate this shit. Before Ruth Chris, there was Olive Garden? I think I ate Ruth Chris my first time the day I signed. Really? Yeah. I remember us all being there. I think you were there. Like, it was like maybe a day or too before Grito went in. Actually, I don't know. Maybe you didn't come up. I don't think that was real Chris. I was there, but I don't think that was real Chris.

It was some really, yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't? It was some really fucking nice, expensive-ass restaurant. I remember, though, we had a little special dinner for Grito. Yeah. That sure was nice. Definitely.

Yeah, you ever talk to him once last time you communicated with him? A few months ago I was talking to him. They just sent me some shit to get on to. Right. Yeah, I got his address, and I sent him a bunch of fucking books in the mail, and he was pretty stoked on it. So if anybody out there wants to, on his Instagram, I'm pretty sure there's a link that has the, like, you have to send it through Amazon to the prison, which is what I realized. But I guess, it's funny people would be trying to buy merch from prison and get a sent to the prison.

Like, I'd be getting that in my merch. And does it work? No, they send it right back. I'm like, why the fuck would they try this? Yeah, because I'm like, if that works, then why wouldn't they order anything? They'd be sending it right back to us. Like, it would be coming to our PO. box all the time. What the fuck? That's fucking hilarious. Yeah, but that's what his mom told me. I was

like, what does he want? Like, I'm sure he don't need like 100 bucks. Like, I'm sure he got some money. Like, what does he need? She's just like, give him books because he'll just sit around and read that shit and he really loves it. So, yeah, definitely. Obviously, tragedy struck a couple months ago. Drake of the Ruler was killed. Were you there at that festival that day? Yeah, I was there. Well, we were supposed to perform on the same stage. Wow. So you were there at a a different part of the venue? I was performing as everything happened. When I got out of stage,

it was like, everybody got to leave. They was trying to not let us, like, leave the actual parking lot. There was like, it's an investigation going on, all types of shit. And so you had to just fucking stand around,

or did they get you out of the? We left because we was like on a whole another part where the trailers was. And my stage was, it was like across the whole way. Right. Fuck. So, I mean,

did you just, did you realize right away what happened or to take a little while? I didn't know what happened to everyone started posting some shit about it as we left. We was already leaving

and everybody started posting and shit about it. Have you spent much time on Draco since he got released? Not since he got released just because I felt like everybody was just getting high and kicking him.

I'm like, I don't really get high like that. And that's actually the last time I said Lenn, the day after you passed. Really? Yeah. Would you feel fucked up in the head like you wanted to deal with it that way? That's why I was like,

let me sit some Liener everybody. We just going to like reminisce. You feel me? Damn. I mean, yeah, man, like, when you think about it, like, the Shoreline Grito-Dricko wave was, like, one of the most powerful waves and really in L.A. history, definitely in the last 10 years. It was crazy because at the moment, it just felt like nothing. It just felt so regularly, you feel me? Like, I don't really get to live in the moment and appreciate it.

But now it's like, yeah, we really did something. Yeah, because during that, I remember kind of checking myself at a certain point and realizing, like, this right now is kind of like what you came in. on because I kind of came in with like X and little peep and you know all these SoundCloud rappers and shit and then I sort of like but while it was happening I didn't realize it was happening you know I'm thinking I'm just interviewing a bunch of underground rappers as regular then they start exploding and becoming legends and shit I definitely remember like realizing at a certain point like oh this era of Shoreline and Grito and Draco whatever this turns into right now

like I'm living through a very historic moment in the history of this shit I was younger so I feel like I didn't think like that every day I I was like, I feel like we wasn't even popping like that. Like, even now, I feel like I still got to, I barely scratch the surface is what I feel like. Really? Yeah. Damn, yeah. But yeah.

But when I do look back, I'm like, damn, that was a big moment. Yeah. And just have all those, like, because I mean, Draco and Grito were kind of like the more street, you know, associated guys. Whereas, like, you guys were like the young kids. Like, they, think about Grito. He had had them face states for, like, 10 years. We all know all the same people. It just seemed like, you feel I mean?

But it was just like a combination of all those voices together. Like a lot of those fucking songs wake me up in traffic and shit, man. That's just is hard. So many classics. That's why my girl said that to me the other day. She's like, Draco and Grito are like two of the only rappers that I still hear you go back to all the fucking time. And it's true. Like there's a move past artists all the time.

But that's just like ones that really stuck with us. Not for sure. The show. Did you, after Drake or Paso, did you feel like there was any way for you to sort of like commemorate? that or do you feel like you want to do that through music or anything like that i've seen some people putting out songs like dedicated to him and shit like ralphie not really just because i never even did that for my love hummies i lost you feel me like that's just i feel like i don't really get too too deep in my music like you hear my music it's more like a party like i feel like i never i do want to do it i want to get

that deep into my music like i i want to change the way i rap and do all types of shit but at that point like I've never been like that. Yeah, your brain just sort of goes to like turning up when you're in studio. Interesting. Do you, because I remember some epic fucking short line studio sessions with like 50 fucking people, somebody getting a haircut in the corner, somebody getting a face tattoo right here, 10, 20 pounds of weed laid out, 10 different types of lean on the table. Yeah.

I was fucking, shit, I don't know if I was there, but that was definitely like. It was around that week. You were just going in, like the songs after songs of the songs. What's your studio environment? like at this point I guess is what I'm saying. Same thing. I love having everyone come through. Really?

Like, I feel like even if I'm not turning up, I want to see everybody else turning up. Like, it just give me that energy to do what I do. Right, yeah. Because, I mean, it's got to be kind of hard to find the inspiration to be saying all this crazy-ass shit on the mic when you just like sitting around in your pajamas by yourself. No, like I said, man, I'll be able to done, Julio. We're in the club. I went to a club.

Sometimes I did three clubs in one day last year. Really? Yeah. And what's that like? Does it feel like a grind or is it just fun? It's just fun. That's what I'm like, yo, I got to tighten up this year.

I had too much fun last year. Yeah. GZ World came out and I'm like, I got to have, I got to tighten up. Right. You were just getting too lit. How much you spent on that chain?

Can we know? I don't know. Because my whole set together was like $200. Oh, shit. So you got all the bracelets and rings and watch together? And my earrings. Wow. Is that the first time you went like?

Shout out Mikey. Is that the first time you went like super? crazy? At MSK design. You know, we first went crazy with the jewelry like that? And, you know, I'd be holding back because my bills be so crazy. Really? Yeah. So I'd be holding back on spending on, like, buying a lot of designer shit.

Like, you see me still wearing Supreme, palettes, you feel me? But this time I was like, I need something, though. Right. I feel like when you buy white jewelry, you've got to get a whole set, you can't just do, like, a chain or something. That's true. And it got to be bust down. You can't have this. It'll look like silver if you have

a regular chain. No, yeah. That's real rapper jewelry right there's a lot of levels to the shit you know there's a lot of people out there i'm at i'm at uh level two in the jury but it's because it's because i don't spend a lot on jury i i i'll take care of what i need to take care at first i just uh put a down payment on the new house you're yeah so you own the house you live in right now or is this the first one you know i own the house i live in right now and then i'm about that's gonna be my first rental property when i'm moving i'm getting my new house i was about a three million dollar career you're gonna rent it out yeah that must feel good man that's

I'm gonna be my first introduction to the property year. Nice. Yes, sir. That's dope. Make the money work for you. Yes, sir, exactly. Facts. Exactly.

Have you ever been around a rapper where their jewelry was so crazy that it was kind of like overwhelming or like, you know, there's just such levels to the shit? Is there ever somebody around where you're just like, that's the next level? Not really, because I'd be looking at jewelry and I'm like, I can buy that if I want, but I think my bills are like $50,000 a month. A month? Yeah. For what? Your two mortgages? No, I got all the types of bills.

Man. Mortgages, I got a rental property that I shipped a clothes at us. Oh, okay. Like, I got a bunch of bills. Goddamn. Yeah. That's crazy. I was around OT the other day, and he had the stupidest chain I ever seen.

I definitely had that moment where I'm just like, holy fuck. I didn't even know a chain could look that crazy. Yeah, no, change. That's like, I'd be wanting it. I'm like, yeah, I got a check. I got too many bills. I mean, there's a lot of rappers that that's what they try to do, the first check they get.

That's what I did. Yeah, that's what I didn't do, really. Yeah, that's what I didn't do either. Definitely. It's crazy, too, when I spent the money on this, I felt kind of bad, and that shit came back, like, three photons in, like, the next three, four months. So I'm like, uh, that was an investment right there. Right.

You caught the restaurant, too? Yeah, yeah. I'm a partner in the restaurant. Where at? Uh, on Sense. Where's it at? Sense La Ciena. Right.

Sense in Marisco. How'd you get tapped in with him? Um, just knowing the other partner. Just meeting him and him fucking with me. Just, um, just. just off who I am. We chopped it up and he was like, hey, you want an opportunity?

I was like, yeah, let's go. Did you just invest or are you like out here promoting it and shit? No, I invested, but I'd be promoting it, but I kind of don't eat seafood too much, so I don't be like, I'm not there. What kind of food is it, though? It's like seafood type. It's like Mexican seafood dishes.

I don't think I ever been on Mexican seafood joint. You like seafood? Yeah. I got to tell you there. Oh, yeah. How often do you pull up? Not that often. Like I said, I don't like seafood.

But I eat it. They got fries and shit? Nah. Seafood. Let's see. Back to get seafood dishes. That's crazy. I mean, Blueface kind of did the same thing.

He brought a fucking fish and fried joint or whatever. Was it chicken and fish? Or is it just fish? I don't know. I didn't even see that. No, yeah. He got a fucking fish spot too. That's tight.

Yeah. Hell yeah. I want to open a bunch of food spots. I want to get a bunch of rental properties. He's wanting to do apartment buildings, all the types of shit. Right. I mean, okay. Because I think about this a lot.

There's a lot of different ways to be successful as a rapper, really. And it's like if you looked at your career in 10 years and you felt like maybe the music Didn't ever get huge, but if you had been able to like get involved with a bunch of different businesses and shit like that, do you think that you would be happy about that? Yeah, for sure. It is making money more important than necessarily having the music be the thing making money. In the grand scheme of things, it's like you like making money. You like being famous.

I don't get the fuck about being famous. Because you already had a whole taste of that. Come on. I'd rather make some money. Being famous seems super sick when you're not. Yeah, exactly. I'll give a fuck about being famous. You got famous.

Well, for me at least, like, yeah, I don't really get, like, people who just want to be known by everybody. Because I feel like I'm kind of like known by everybody that I would give a shit about, knowing about me. Exactly, exactly. I feel like everyone I've ever thought was important has, like, fuck with me, you for me. So I don't really care about being famous. Yeah. You know, trying to get on the Ellen show or some shit? That'd be tight.

That's a new Oprah That's a new audience Yeah Steve Harvey You get a perk You get a perk Are the perks

Is it over for the perks as well OVA That's a little bit better than Over Is that a little better than The lean? No because the nix starts smoking them Oh shit

Don't do perks Kids You ever get to that point Hell no Come on I look like I smoke perks Oh no I never seen

A nigga smoke perks With a chain like this No The chain getting sold For more perks For sure That's a lot of breaks 100% um okay uh would you would you let me get some don Julio you know they're

drinking all the fucking ecto cooler it's going down bro let me get a capricent to us out of yeah um do you talk to anybody uh who who was in shoreline still you got a relationship with any of them or is it kind of uh you know you Phoenix Rob and Cato just talk communicate with any of them at all at this point or is it just kind of over so west shoreline right yeah uh no i don't communicate him no really has been like that for a minute because i i feel like that since it happened since it happened even before like that's why it happened you feel me there's like no communication like right that's why i have been i feel like you know but it just seemed like it was impossible it wasn't going to get saved at that point yeah i feel like when it happened it's

already been like a year and two years into it you feel feel I mean like it just wasn't cool no more right so that's why it happened definitely so once it happened it was like it's already been over with like that's like we it was nothing to us like the fans was like oh my god what happened do you were you just being fake cool to get the check for a minute is that how it felt hell hell no I was just I was just doing me like me I just be focused on me I just be focused on me I just be focused on what I do and that's it if you got a big ass offer to reunite for a festival or some shit would you be open to it or is that just moving

backwards oh if i got i thought you said did i get off yeah if you got hit up tomorrow and it was some amount of money that if i get it would be crazy if i get a mail myself then that's a big payday i might talk yeah but might talk about it does it feel like that would be moving backwards to do not really if i get a mill i'm moving forward because i'm about to buy something with it i'm about to buy some property do something with it right give me a millie that makes sense it's good uh uh you got a song um You know, Bel Air? Yeah.

How the fuck does that happen? I didn't even know. Really? I ain't seen it yet. I did know. My manager told me, but it just crossed my mind, like, what the show was. Right. And then all types of fans was tagging me in there.

I'm like, what the fuck? I got a song. I called him. He's like, yeah, we talked about it. I'm like, oh, yeah, I forgot. I'm like, I didn't know it was that show. Is that cool, though? Like, you feel like you're getting new fans from that shit?

Yeah. I don't know if I'm getting new fans, but that's tight. And they pay me. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. No, that's the future right there. But you've got people behind the scenes,

like lobbying trying to get you into shit like that, or does it just end up happening? Do you know how that works? Who did that for us? You're over there tapped in, like, yo, use this song. Oh, yeah, bro. Is that what a manager does these days? I don't really know.

Shout out, Rory, man. Shout out of Rory. We out here. For sure. You're still happy with your label and everything? Yeah, for sure. I feel like all labels do is really investing you. Like, they're not.

At the end of the day, the amount of money they invested in me. I feel like they break in even though I'm making them millions of dollars. They invest in millions, you feel me? So I feel like we just breaking even because they believe in me. It's like partnering with an investment firm to help you get bigger quicker. A lot of people don't understand that. Yeah. And then they get pissed off when they realize they're not getting every last dollar out of the things.

But they don't understand how much a video costs $100,000. That's how much it cost you these days? Yeah, the baby video is like a hundred something. Yeah. Plus the feature. You feel me? Right. So people don't be dumby understanding. The label helped make that happen with the baby because that's the same label, right? They make it happen. I'm just saying we have to, everybody got to pay just like when I do a feature, people pay me. Right. Yeah. I mean, the baby's time, very valuable so I can see it. What was that day like though? Like, what was it like hanging out?

It was cool. That was like one of the biggest budget videos I've been on. So it was super cool. Right. Damn horse there. I don't know why we needed it. a horse in the video. It was a motherfucking horse on set. Right. Is there ever a moment? My son was there. Is there a moment?

You're like, Oh, Drake was there. He put up. Oh, really? He was actually in the video? Yeah, that's what we had. That's like the last few pictures of me and him together was at the baby video shoot.

Oh, yo. And you know when you were together was at that Deso Dub fucking car event at West Coast Customs? Okay, that was the time right after that. Because I had to dip, and I said this on the parties, I had to dip. We were waiting for the Uber. And then I see that you're on stage and that Draco is standing over the And I'm like, fuck. Like, I should go over there and say what up.

Like before I hop in this Uber and then I'm like, no, I see these guys all the time. I'm just going to hop in this Uber. And then that shit happened. And I'm like, fuck, that could, that would have been the last time that I ever laid eyes on the guy in real life. Sad. Yeah, now that was a cool last day. Yeah. That was a nice day.

That was like, I'm spending a hundred thousand bringing all the hummings to a video shoot. Right. Definitely. That shit was cool though. What do you feel about the baby getting canceled? You can pay attention though? Other people's drama. I'll be paying attention to that shit like that.

Right. Oh, GZ ain't getting canceled anytime soon? No, I'll be doing, I'll be trying not to get canceled. Right. You got to wash your mouth? You got any offensive opinions that you're at risk of letting out any given moment? No, I love everyone. Nothing offensive coming out of my mouth.

Right. I'm a business name. How'd you feel when Ron Ron was talking shit about you on Twitter? We talked about it later. We were written into each other. We talked about it. What was the tone of the conversation like? It was cool

It was different from Twitter For sure But you pass it up Sorted it out It's cool Damn How's that feel though Just like having people

That you worked with in the past Kind of I feel like you feel I feel like I understand A lot of people's Like I could have been a damn Psychology major or something Like I understand where everybody

Where everybody halt their head at You feel me So when I see someone I know it's not the same is how you felt and everything just changed. Like I understand where people come from and why they do the things they do. For sure.

I mean, do you feel like you're just kind of too big to even respond at a certain point? Well, I didn't respond. Yeah. You just didn't respond at all. You didn't hit nobody up privately? It's not even that I'm too big. I just don't give a fuck.

Yeah. I got like a million things going on. I got a son at home. Like, I spent a lot of time with my son, a lot of time. I respect that. So it's not like I'm on Twitter like, oh, what he say, what she say? Like, oh, you're a fuck.

Right. I got a lot of business to tend to. I got a lot of shit to do. He said he would make that chain disappear. Yes. It's here, though, right? It's here. I was laughing when I read that one.

I'm not going to lie. It's here, though. It happens, man. Watch, chain. Yeah. Okay. I think that's, oh, no, no, no. The other thing I wanted to ask about is I see you getting kind of more in the Latin market.

This dude, you did a song with Eladio Carillon? Eladio, yeah, he's hard. Right. It's crazy because when we started talking, he had originally asked to get on the song. And I wasn't on game with him, so I'm like, who? Look him up. I'm like, damn, he's going crazy. There's so many huge artists in that world that we don't know anything about.

I hit the song, the song ain't come out to a year later. He's selling out stadiums right now. Really? So he got way bigger after you did the song? Yeah, I'm like, yeah, this is crazy. I'm like, that's what I said. And it's cool because he fucked with me. Like, he's like, bro, I've been listening to you since way back.

I'm like, yo, that's crazy. There's probably people that you know from growing up in shit that, like, would not even really be noticing your music, but notice that shit just because it's with actual, like, Latin artists. Has that kind of been the case? I want to do a Latin song myself. I want to do some wreck of dungent, some wretched shit. Would you feel comfortable right in it yourself? No.

You need a little bit of help? I'm going to ask my grandma for some help. For sure, yeah. I don't know. I don't know where I would start on that one. That would be a fucking challenge. No, I'm going to ask my grandma. For sure.

All right, so are you thinking about dropping a new project anytime soon? What are you going on besides the tour? I'm about to go on tour. I go on tour in two days. I'm going to go all across America. Like Beavis and Butthead. I'm going to go all across America. and I'm bringing my engineer this time.

I had never done that ever on a tour. So you're going to just book studio time? No, he's going to be on the bus. He's going to be recording on the bus. I'm going to try to make an album or two on the bus. Wow. Yeah. That would be sick.

How many people do you bring on tour with you at this point? I try not to bring too many people just because I need all the help I could get. So if I bring anyone, they got to help. They got to be ready to work. Right. Is tour kind of boring? And a lot of people don't want to work. Who the fuck wants to work on tour?

But that's why I'm bringing the engineer because I want to set that self-discipline on myself. Right. The hardest place to work to be sober at is on tour. So I'm like, yeah, I want to be sober. I want to work. I want to come back home. And I feel like I'm about to be on the road for 40 days.

So if I record for 40 days straight, two, three songs a day, I'm going to set myself up for the next two, three years. You can have an amazing project off that. Exactly. You're taking like 100 songs and chopping it down to 10 or 20? Exactly. And besides that, when I get bit, If I create that self-discipline on tour, then when I get back, it's going to be a breeze to, like, just go hit the studio, you feel me?

You feel like you have a discipline issue at home? Like, you don't get in the studio enough? Not that it's a discipline issue with the studios is I have so much business to tend to at home. I got to take care of my merch. I got to go to the crib where my merch is at. Like, to go to the studio, you know what it is? My engineer don't live in L.A. So every time I got to work with him, I got to fly him out.

Oh, really? Shout out Tess. But you just love having him as your engineer. That's the only person I fuck with. Really? Has it always been like that? No. He did Gizi World and I was like, I can't fuck with no one else.

Really? Is that good? Yeah, that good. That good? Like skill-wise or just like vibe-wise? No, skill-wise. Skill and vibe because I'm comfortable with him. Right.

But definitely skill because every time I take him to like a major session, everybody's just like, oh, I want him to work for me. I'm like, no. Watch out. Really? Wow. Can you give me an example of the kind of shit? Like, he just knows exactly what to do with your vocals? Yeah, exactly.

My vocals. and he'd be chopping the beat up. He'd be just, he'd be going out his way. I fuck with him so tough. That's why I'm like, I'm going to bring him on. I want to do an album or two on the road. I'm going to go listen to that album and see if I can notice the engineering. Yeah, yeah.

Because I don't normally notice that kind of thing. You got to listen to it. Yeah, that's interesting. I'm going to bring you to a session so you can see what he'd do. And you'll be like, oh yeah, he's a genius. Hell yeah. He's a genius, for real. You know what he do when in between me recording?

Because I write my shit. So it's not like I'm trying to punch him. I just started punching him. with him. That's how comfortable I am with him. Really? It's many years since I've been rapping in my first punching in this with him. Because you are one of the only people that I've ever been in the studio who would just come with the whole song on their phone and just do it all.

Exactly. And if you fucked up a bar, you would just start over. So just a few weeks ago, I just started punching in with him. That's how much I fuck with him. Do you feel like it sounds better? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I gotta show you my shit, my new shit hard. I'm working on Jesus World Part 2 right now. Interesting. They can kind of make the vocals, like, overlap each one. other a little bit in ways that you wouldn't be able to do. I don't know what the fuck he do, but he's hard. Shout out to his again. Look, look, when I'm recording, if I'm not rapping, you know what he's doing? He's playing with a Rubik's cube. Really? And he gets it every time. Whoa. He's like a genius. I find that impressive for sure. He's just going crazy when I'm not rapping. You realize that I've never

had anybody shout their engineer out even close to this much in the history of this podcast? No, that's my boy. That's how much I fuck with him. That's what I'm bringing him on the road. It's going to be the first time take an engineer on the road. It's going to be the first time I record on the road, really. Fuck yeah. So I'm trying to do an album or two, come back and just, that's going to be the foundation. Like, if I get it right on the road, then when I get home, it's easy. Right. Because when I am home, it's just, I got to kick on my son. I got to do business. I got to make sure everything is going accordingly. It's just so much to do at home. Like, being on the road, and being on the road, it's kind of like, for anyone else, it's a party. Like, it's always been a party to me. So now I'm like, all right, now I got to

I got to lock it in. I got to lock it down, record, and this be set the groundwork up so I could have vacations when I get back, you feel me? I can do whatever I want when I get back. Right. Damn. It's awesome to hear how well shit is going, man. Yeah, nothing's going, amazing, though.

That's good. It's good to hear. They just, I just got my Zoomies deal back. Oh, I've seen that. Yeah. You got it back? You weren't fucking one for a while? No, so what happened was that when I first did it, it was just split up between so many

people. So like a Zumi's deal, like say I get 100 bans, I was getting like five bands. Oh, Jesus. So I'm like, this don't make no sense. Right. It's not because of Zumi's. It's because of how we was in a group, all the type of shit. So now it's just me by myself. I'm like, okay, the numbers look good. You feel me? Like, you got to clean up some of the designs for Zumis? Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. They edited my old designs and they just like took shit out out of it. I'm like, look kind of different. It's cool, though. Yeah. But I mean, you got to keep in mind them for a lot of kids, Zumi's or Tilly's or whatever. That's their only connection to the culture.

The reason why I did it is because I'm like, yo, a bunch of kids don't use credit cards and shit because I'm like, it took me a long time. Now that I'm thinking about it, it took me a long time to be comfortable with buying some shit online. I'm like, a lot of kids don't do it. And especially I was just talking to them, I was like, yo, y'all, you're going to put in Zumi's Canada. That was like, yeah, we're about to do it.

I was like, that's perfect because the shipping fees and all the charges, it costs like $100 just to buy a $30 shirt over there. So I'm like, if y'all put it over there, it's going to be perfect. Yeah. So we're about to do that. Everybody, fuck me in Canada. Go fuck with us, Canada.

Yeah, y'all gonna get y'all shit in Zumi's over there soon. Look at her. Why is Gina stealing my fucking weed? What are you doing? She's trying to slip that in her purse right there? God damn. Yeah, I got, I got my weed brand, I got my clothes brand, got restaurants, first rental property coming up.

I'm about this. You're going crazy. I'm probably, man. That's a young, successful LA entrepreneur doing some good shit with himself, staying out of trouble. It's very good to see. It's underrated, man. And I being a dad every day, you feel me? Like, I think that's the best part about being a rapper that I could just go rap.

And then I do that when my son's sleep. Then I get home and he wake up. For sure. And we just start the day over. That's a good thing about them needing more sleep than us. It gives you more time to do whatever the fuck. You got to do, but no, when I was watching that complex thing, I saw your mom talking about how you're breaking the fucking cycle of fatherless children.

And besides that, you know, yeah, I, because imagine how many how many people look up to me. Yeah. They might just have like a random kid, but they're like, yo, I fuck with Jesus. I said, y'all, he moved. I might have to watch my son, you feel me? A lot of people, the reason why they're terrible fathers is just because they, like, literally have never seen a fucking model for what it is to be a good dad. Even me, but I'm like, I love my son so much.

Like, I had so much love. Like, I'm like, how could I not be a father to my kid? You feel me? Yeah. And you're so blessed. That's when it was. You know, how could you not share this fucking shit that you're going through with your kid? I'd be posting some of my damn Instagram.

I look like his Instagram. Yeah. Like, it's me and it's me and here. I did kind of notice that. Yeah. I was like, I feel me? I love him so much. I have to check myself, too, because I've been fucking taking so many pictures with my kid.

And I'm like, do I look weird if I'm posting this? this much of this? Like, does the world need to see this many photos of my kid? It's funny. You can see the different stuff before, like night and day. Nah, but, yo, one of the new things I'm doing on tour, I'm bringing my mom. Oh, wow. You know, she running all my merch shit. Right, yeah. So I'm bringing her, and she's doing my merch on tour.

That's amazing. Yeah. That's a fucking time. So I have, like, peace of mind. I have, like, everything I need. Like, my mom. And she's just excited to see me do what I do every day. Like, she ain't ever been on no tour with me. Like, do you sleep on the tour bus or do you get hotels?

It depends on how far you have to drive Exactly That makes sense I remember watching like a cash money video Back in the day where they were like No we sleep in hotels We don't use these fucking bunks And I was just like damn

That kind of defeats the purpose Because you gotta be able to like go Get to the next place They had their cash money Yeah I guess But they also had the stretch fucking Like they had like The craziest cars that they would stretch them out

Like they were spending their money So crazy bro They're limited budgets I guess I appreciate you coming through, bro And everybody Go stream the fucking album Go check them out on tour

Easy World Deluxe Go get that Come on. For sure And I'm gonna be on tour I'm gonna be in your city Pull up And what's the website

For the merch and everything? Easyworld.com Right Yeah, all the merch Everything you need I'm gonna go order some shit And zoomies Pull up and zoomies

I'm from to drop the list Y'all pull a bit of zoomies Go get what you need We'll pull up to the spot For the vlog or some shit And check out your whole operation And that way I can Try to sneak some merch without I got you.

I got you. I'm broke as fuck, bro. It's good, I got you. Hard times. O Jeezy, appreciate you, man. No Jumper. That's right. Coolest podcast in the world.

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